WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:18.960 What's up, everybody. It's Rose Pricks. It's me, Stephanie Wilder Tailor. 2 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:21.120 I'm here with Cecily Nobler, and I'm going to tell 3 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:26.559 you guys something. I'm really excited about this because I 4 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:30.399 love to watch Love is Blind. Cecily knows this. It 5 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:33.600 is a bone of contention between us because I'm very 6 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:36.600 pushy about my love for Love is Blind and insisting 7 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:40.200 it's a good show, and sometimes it's not. And that's 8 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:44.520 and that's just what life is, you know. I watch 9 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.520 I watch Love is Blind around the world. I've watched 10 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:53.399 Sweden two seasons. I've watched France, I've watched Brazil. There's 11 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:55.520 not a Love Is Blind that I'm not going to 12 00:00:55.560 --> 00:01:00.600 at least like take a peek. And Cecily's like that, 13 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.079 She's like, I don't want to watch it at all, 14 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.719 but I talked her into trying it this season, and 15 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:10.239 guess what, she likes it. So now I'm excited because, 16 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:13.159 and you know what, for good reason, this season is 17 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:15.560 trash and I love it. 18 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:16.560 It's trash TV. 19 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.599 Well, a couple things you love it. Also a lot 20 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.200 of people listening love it. That's real, and so I'm like, well, 21 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.920 look and Listen, it's very gift of the magi. Like 22 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:30.560 I sold my facelift to buy you Love is Blind, 23 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:34.920 and you sold your hair for vander Pump for me. Yeah, 24 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:37.200 like it is a give and take. I mean we 25 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:39.840 went through vander Pump. After vander Pump with Stephanie is like, 26 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.799 I just I just can't And I'm like, but you 27 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:46.560 have to, because right scanned of all you have to 28 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.439 because I'm out here going to all these bars that 29 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.079 they own for you. I am bleeding for you. I 30 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.840 am paying for these fancy drinks that vander Pump comes 31 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:58.480 up with for you. Yes, at least I can do. 32 00:01:58.480 --> 00:01:59.480 Just sit on my couch and watch. 33 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:01.799 That was fine, And you know what, I just want 34 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:05.000 you to know that it makes me feel loved. It 35 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:09.759 makes me feel cherished, It makes me feel not love bombed. 36 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.319 It makes me feel like like a real love, like 37 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:13.719 a love that has that has. 38 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:15.759 Earned right, right. 39 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:18.240 I get that it was hard to talk you into it, 40 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:21.000 but when you were like, all right, I'll watch it, 41 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:24.840 and I was like, you know, I can't all I 42 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:28.439 can do. I can't be mad that she's you know, 43 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:30.080 not excited about it. 44 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:31.520 Like what I can't say? 45 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:34.280 Listen, you said yes, and I was like, you know what, 46 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:35.840 I'm not I'm going to leave it at that. 47 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:37.120 She said yes, And. 48 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.680 Now that you're liking it, I just go, you know what, 49 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.039 you really you really gave it a chance, and that 50 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:46.039 makes me, it makes me feel cared for Oh sorry, sorry, 51 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:48.159 but it don't all walls down. 52 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:54.120 My god. That was so intentional. Thank you, she'd and 53 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:56.680 Stephanie did warn me before we start. She's like, Okay, 54 00:02:56.719 --> 00:03:00.960 it's a lot of Bachelor speak, like this season, these 55 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:05.400 people have studied a reality show, like they know. I 56 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:07.560 don't know who to believe, and we're gonna have We 57 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.759 haven't talked about our takes yet. We have not. We 58 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:14.080 only know that each other. We've watched it through episode nine. 59 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:15.039 We're caught u up. 60 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.479 We are caught up up with all the episodes and 61 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:19.319 guess what they just came out today. 62 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.599 We're really caught up. What did I do do other 63 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:24.439 work that I was supposed to? Just for the record, 64 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:26.400 I really just didn't do shit. I didn't feel well, 65 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:28.319 so I was like, I ordered a piece of cake 66 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.199 from Kung Caub Bistro. I also got like noodles, right, 67 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:34.919 but like I really ordered just to get a giant 68 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.759 piece of chocolate cake which I just sort of slurped 69 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:40.919 down while watching the shit and I love it. Have 70 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:42.560 a lot of thoughts and I can I give you 71 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:44.280 one big macro. 72 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:45.479 No macro it up. 73 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:48.240 This is this is my this is my super Bowl. 74 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:52.800 Yes yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. He I want to say, 75 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:55.680 in past seasons of Love is Blind, we have had 76 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:58.840 like kind of obvious like if you take a couple 77 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:01.759 and you dissect that couple, there's been obviously like Heroes 78 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:03.879 and Villaine, like it's been easier to look at and 79 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:06.680 go that guy is great, that woman's great, that guy's 80 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:10.199 not great. Like this season is back and forth. I'll 81 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.960 be all in on one person and then I'm like, hmmm, say, 82 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:17.079 I don't know. Yeah, now there's some there is a 83 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.279 couple of people that I actually really like. And I'm 84 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:22.000 going to tell you one straight out the gate, okay, 85 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:24.000 and you're going to be super there's a couple actually 86 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:25.800 you love and one of them and one of them 87 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:26.920 sparkle Megan, how. 88 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:29.680 Did you know? Because I know you? Because I know. 89 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.560 Okay, So why if you know me better than me? 90 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:34.600 Then I know me? Because why do I like her? 91 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:35.839 I don't know? 92 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:38.439 I think, well, you already told me that you kind 93 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:42.720 of like her slight like boss bitch energy, and she's 94 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:46.319 not she's not like she's trying. I think that's what 95 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.959 you like about her. She's kind of she's trying to 96 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.560 do better. I think what you relate to in her 97 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:53.920 is she's like, look, I do tend to like these 98 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.079 assholes that are like a certain way, and I'm really 99 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:00.639 trying to do something different here, and she did. She 100 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:02.639 did something different. We'll see if it worth I. 101 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:05.000 Really like that. I think she's so cute. I think 102 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:09.720 she's just like so naturally attractive. I think she's classy. 103 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:12.399 I really do think she's classy, and I like that 104 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.800 she's not so far. She hasn't like emasculated him. She 105 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:17.319 knows she's the one that has the money, and she 106 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:20.480 knows she wants the finer things, and she's very nurturing. 107 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.680 I'm very shocked at how much like, yeah, she likes 108 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.000 a label and she's not trying to hide that. But 109 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:28.160 she chose a guy that's sort of like, you know, 110 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:32.600 doesn't know about the fancy stuff, and I love I 111 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.480 think I'm in love with her, not sexually. 112 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:38.680 Well, then let's root for those two silly kids. Yeah, 113 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.040 because there's not a lot of other people to root for. 114 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:44.160 Let's take it. Let's start with the a's. Let's start 115 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:47.839 with Ali and Anton. We're going to take a couple 116 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.319 by couple, because you did text me this. Tell me 117 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:53.879 what tell tell the people what you texted me about Anton? 118 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:56.800 I texted you this, and I was very I was 119 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:00.480 early in and this could be my own sense of activity. 120 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:06.519 I have. You know, I have a radar up for alcoholism. 121 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:09.639 And what I told you was I said, Anton is 122 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:13.439 an alcoholic. And then in the morning he got more. 123 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.199 It only got more clear, Like I'm telling you that 124 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:18.879 I texted you that before they started to give him 125 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:20.720 an alcoholic Edit. 126 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:24.199 Interesting, how what was it? 127 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:25.360 It was the fact. 128 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:28.839 That from the beginning with him, they've only they've just 129 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.759 always focused on his drinking and like when he went okay. 130 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:34.879 One of the things that I don't think we mentioned 131 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:38.319 on our first thing was that when they came out 132 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.360 of the pod, when they met in the pods, yeah, 133 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:45.319 he immediately started drinking, to the point that he wasn't 134 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:48.399 even looking at her. He was very having his alcohol. 135 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.240 We talked about it. Remember, isn't he the one that 136 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:55.120 like went for himself a second drink or was that Joe, No, 137 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.319 it was him, Okay, yeah, it was weird and she 138 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:59.399 just watched him like from Afar. 139 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.319 I was like, ah, and I'll tell you another thing. 140 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:06.160 He never seems drunk, but he is always drinking. He 141 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:09.160 does shot at shot after shot, and I think he 142 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:11.759 just has a very high tolerance and I think he 143 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.439 gets quiet and shut down and just drunk all the time. 144 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:18.480 And this is not going to go well with these two. 145 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:21.879 And it shouldn't go well with these two because she's 146 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:24.439 not gonna like that, and she's a nurse, she's already. 147 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:26.279 So let's take it through. We're going to do a 148 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.839 couple by couple because we're not Let's take us. Let's 149 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.480 take us through them first off. You know, I don't 150 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:34.439 know where we want to start, but they get back, 151 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:37.720 you know, they're well, we haven't even done six, so 152 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:41.519 well she want to to I know Edmund, all right, 153 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:43.879 let let's let's let's come back to Ali Nanton because 154 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.879 I just want to say I did see the Edmund breakdown, 155 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:50.639 if maybe, and it's hard to just talk about it 156 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.519 through the lens of episode six. Now that I've sort 157 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.160 of seen more because I think she gets off on 158 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.560 pushing people. She knows that he's a little emotionally damaged. 159 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:05.800 She definitely has suffers from something depression something she I 160 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:08.360 think does know what she does, and I think she 161 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.600 loves like puppeteering it. She wants to like break him 162 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.519 down in the worst fucking way. 163 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:20.040 She should. Yeah, she should work for like forum. 164 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:23.120 Like sea Org too, Like she wants to break you 165 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.839 down and then build you. But okay, Boo, you just 166 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:30.240 made him like crazy. Now I'm not saying she's responsible. 167 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:34.279 You don't have this even I get it. I'm with you. Yeah, 168 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:35.120 it was so. 169 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.519 Hard to watch because he was she was actively trying 170 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:39.840 to make him jealous. Yeah, I fucked a lot of guys, 171 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:41.559 but I'm not fucking you because I actually really like you. 172 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:43.000 So we'll see at the altar. But like, I have 173 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:45.240 had a lot of one night stands. But boo, it's 174 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:48.039 been a while and he just started the wheels were turning. 175 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.960 This was episode six, and he just like couldn't form 176 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:56.279 and she won't let him talk, so he like could 177 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.840 not form a thought and then it becomes emotion for him. 178 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:01.240 We're later going to meet his I guess that was 179 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.279 his mom, or's grandma's mom, his mom is mom, who's 180 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:09.240 also not doing great. It seemed so like we see 181 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.720 where it came from. And I love him. I love him, 182 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:14.480 and I'm rooting for him and I'm worried about him. 183 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.039 Okay, let's you know what, then, let's just talk about 184 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:18.720 them all the way through the episodes. 185 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:20.000 Okay, let's do that first. 186 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:20.320 Okay. 187 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:26.039 So for me, I really was uncomfortable with that scene 188 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.679 so much that I felt scared for her. I think, 189 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:33.279 I think, and now that I have seen so yeah, 190 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:34.519 there's spoilers here. 191 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:36.399 Now that I have seen more, I. 192 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.559 Completely agree with you on her part of this, and 193 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:45.399 she one hundred percent has a part. And she definitely 194 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:50.360 is extremely emotionally manipulative and yeah. 195 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:53.840 And sadistic. She like does this and then watches them 196 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:57.080 like coldly. I agree, you know what I mean? Oh 197 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.799 my god, she gives She gives me like whoof not a? 198 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:01.559 And I loved her at the beginning. I was like, 199 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.960 what a great match this is going to be. 200 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:06.759 Because we felt like she had good intentions because she's 201 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.080 like a social worker, so we were like, you know, 202 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:12.639 she actually kind of does get him, right, but she 203 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.679 does get him and she knows that she can like 204 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.559 manipulate the shit out of him, and I believe. Okay, 205 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:22.000 so late later, let's let we'll come back to this, 206 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.879 to his breakdown. But later the last scene is so weird, 207 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:29.000 and since I just saw it's fresh in my mind 208 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:34.240 from episode nine, yes, yeah, from episode nine. He's he says, Okay, 209 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:36.440 there's this whole there's a whole group and they're all 210 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:38.480 talking and they're at the meetup where we're going to 211 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:41.759 get the back contestants, the people they didn't choose, and 212 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:46.879 he makes this comment where he says somebody somebody says 213 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:50.000 about their partner like oh my god, like he's crazy 214 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:53.159 or whatever. But Annie, well Annie said to about Nick. 215 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.399 She knows Nick's perfect. Yeah, and she's like, I'm. 216 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:58.519 Saying and he was like, oh, that must feel so nice. 217 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:01.559 So Edmund is like, that must feel nice to someone 218 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.559 to say you're perfect. He didn't even say that with 219 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:06.559 a weird tone, you know, what a sweet thing to say. 220 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:08.840 Then KB pops up out of nowhere. She's like, would 221 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:09.679 you say would you say? 222 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:10.240 Which it was? 223 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:15.559 It was like, oh my god, someone protect this man. Okay, 224 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:17.440 so weird, yes, but. 225 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:22.080 There's stuff that we're there's clearly stuff we're not seeing, 226 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:26.480 and I I do think I'm just trying to analyze 227 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:29.480 it from from all angles. I do think that he 228 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:33.200 is he is emotionally manipulative too, and I think that 229 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:36.879 he needs so like, this is not a man who 230 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:38.799 could be in a relationship right now. 231 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:39.759 He's not healthy. 232 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:44.279 He needs a lot of work, you know, not his fault. 233 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:48.720 He's been traumatized, but he also like he doesn't he 234 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.279 can't take any kind of confrontation. And I think her 235 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.279 frustration is that he has all these needs, but he's 236 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:59.559 too scared to say what he needs. Yeah, and she's 237 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:01.679 never gonna to give him what he needs, which is 238 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.919 which is also rough to watch because she's basically like, 239 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:09.080 if listen, if you need somebody who's going to give 240 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.120 you like reassurance, and you don't like the fact that 241 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.360 I don't give you reassurance, then you need to communicate 242 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:13.799 that with me. 243 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:16.000 But he's she's not gonna do it. 244 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:19.279 See like, there's a world in which I don't know 245 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.159 that he I don't know that he can't not be 246 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:25.240 in a relationship. He needs just a very nurturing woman, 247 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:29.559 which is what we thought she was right like he 248 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:31.279 I think he just I don't think it's that hard 249 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.679 to be like I got you and like mean it 250 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.159 because he hasn't said anything wrong. In fact, he didn't 251 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.360 even get riled up about the sex thing until she 252 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.720 riled him up. She didn't he didn't even know other 253 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.399 people that had set like she didn't have to say 254 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.720 she knew that was a button to say, isn't that 255 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.879 weird that everybody else had sex? But I'm not giving 256 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.120 it to you boo, but I do fuck random guys. 257 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.080 I mean, she bam bam bam gave him like every 258 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.799 possible thing to freak out about. Then he freaks out, 259 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:59.120 which was weird for sure, and then she acts like 260 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:04.200 what what's wrong? Like, oh, I'm just not a fan 261 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:07.279 and I really like am I am I missing something? 262 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:10.799 Like I don't feel I don't think his reaction was 263 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:14.320 quote unquote normal. I have seen people do that spin 264 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.159 out like that, and you really kind of can't reel 265 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:17.759 them in until they just like work it out. 266 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:21.240 Yeah, but didn't you find that to be like very scary? 267 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:24.120 It was scared. I felt more scared for him, not her. 268 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.559 I didn't feel like she was in danger. I feel 269 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:29.440 like he's himself. I feel like he is a danger 270 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:32.399 to himself based on other things he said, including in 271 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:36.799 episode nine, and oh my god, that was really chilling. 272 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.000 So can we tell that? Okay, So this is just 273 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:41.440 so you know. The only other thing we need to 274 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.919 know about them from the last few episodes is that 275 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.960 fight happened. Then they you know, they kind of were 276 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:48.759 doing their thing and then they went to meet. 277 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:53.600 Oh but wait, let's just say because so they get 278 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:56.080 in that they get in this fight, We'll say, I 279 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:57.679 know we're a little all over the place, but I 280 00:13:57.720 --> 00:13:59.840 just I just want to bring this up first before 281 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:01.960 we get to that part. So they get in this 282 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.480 big fight, he has this crazy meltdown, as everybody knows, 283 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:09.919 and he starts going like you, I want to have sex? 284 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.279 Why can't I have sex? When you start screaming about 285 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:16.200 how I'm too nice? And my problem with that was like, 286 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:18.360 what do you mean you're too nice? Like you didn't 287 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:22.159 hit her? Like what does that mean you're too nice? 288 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:25.799 So you're too nice to allow her to not sleep? 289 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:27.200 I was trying to understand. 290 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:29.639 She was trying to say, nice guys, finish last. You 291 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:33.080 will go being this bad dude that you don't care about. Right, 292 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.240 But she did not have to keep telling him that either, 293 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:37.559 Like she she said it once, which was probably once 294 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:40.120 too many, right, she'd have to say it ten times 295 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:43.919 and watch him squirm. So, yeah, that's true. Wound him up. 296 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.519 So she wound him up, and then he starts really 297 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.039 crying and yelling, and then she's like, okay, well, it 298 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:53.840 turned out what I read on like from interviews and stuff, 299 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:55.879 is that she did go like sleep on the balcony 300 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.840 or something. She did not sleep in bed with him, 301 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:02.519 which I was kind glad because it seemed it seemed 302 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:05.279 scary to me. I really didn't like it. 303 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:10.200 Why not the couch? She's so dramatic. I'm just yeah, 304 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:12.399 it was scary. It was scary, but I think it, 305 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:14.840 like I said, it's worth I think it's scarier for him. 306 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:17.399 Okay, So then, but what I was going to say 307 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:19.480 before we get to the rest of it is that 308 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.399 she does this thing and she even kind of calls 309 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.240 herself out on it. She's like yeah, so he apologizes 310 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.720 to her. I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry I acted 311 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:31.519 like that that was like totally wrong whatever, and then 312 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:36.279 she's like yeah, she goes, well, you know, like basically 313 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.360 like yeah, I'll get over it, like I'm not over 314 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.320 it right now, Like I will get over it, so 315 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:46.720 you know, but I was so sorry I'm being dry 316 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:49.440 but like I'm not over it, which is which was 317 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:52.639 the first It's fair, but it was also when I 318 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.440 first started to be like, hey, well, like, so he 319 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:58.799 doesn't know how long it's going to take for you 320 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.159 to get over it, Like it's it's unsettling for him, right. 321 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:03.200 I don't like that. 322 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:05.399 I don't like it. And my parents used to kind 323 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:07.799 of do that to me, where it's like, yeah, well 324 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.240 I don't really Yeah it's cold, and it's like, well 325 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:13.080 I haven't forgiven you, so we'll see. 326 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:15.240 And he's super long that's going to take. 327 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:19.039 For very obvious reasons. Yeah, I mean like he's emotionally unwell, 328 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:20.960 there's quite a few people who are emotionally and well 329 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:22.919 when we get into yeah, but I want to say 330 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.600 what happened? So she so she does go and meet 331 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:28.440 his Edmund's mom, who is I don't want to be 332 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:31.360 on I don't want to be disrespectful to the mom, 333 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.960 but you know we are we are doing a show. Yeh, 334 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.600 Like she's a lot let's just say it like that 335 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:42.320 she's a lot a lot and I'm not like, I'm 336 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:44.960 not surprised that Edmund has some problems. 337 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:47.120 Oh, she's a. 338 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:52.519 Lot a lot, And I maybe this is wrong to say, 339 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:54.279 but I'm going to say it anyway, because as you 340 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:56.639 just pointed out, we are we are a show. This 341 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:59.759 is just this is just you know, but I felt 342 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.120 like there is maybe some substances going on. 343 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.319 Oh for sure, one hundred percent. And I hate saying 344 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:07.160 that we don't one hundred percent know that, but I 345 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.440 felt that one hundred percent. You know what I'm saying, 346 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:12.039 like I we can't we're not saying because we are 347 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:15.039 not there, but yes, I one hundred percent felt there 348 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:16.960 was something going on. 349 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.160 Yeah, something going on that It's like, it's very sad because, 350 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.720 you know, whatever was going on, this man is thirty 351 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:27.920 years old and the mom was being super like she's 352 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:30.160 under the delusion that she was a good mom, and 353 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.240 it's like your son grew up in foster care. 354 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:37.079 And Edmund so patiently sat and let his mom speak 355 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:39.640 and let you know he was he never he didn't 356 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:42.200 talk shit about her like you know, afterwards, he just 357 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:45.400 sat really close, like I think he's such a loving person. 358 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:48.079 And I'm not saying that Kay and KP was respectful 359 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:50.920 too of the mom, but she was saying, basically, she 360 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.519 threw every other daughter in law under the bus. She's like, 361 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:56.400 you're the only one that can like she basically said, 362 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:58.359 she hates all her other son's wives. 363 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:02.000 Yeah, and then her others wives like rap her out 364 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:06.119 to her sons. So like, but she can tell that 365 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.880 Kb's the type. And you know what, how she could 366 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:11.240 tell she could she could probably sense that KB didn't 367 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:12.359 like Edmund that much. 368 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:14.799 Right, He's like, you're not going to wrap me out? 369 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:16.160 And I like, you get it? 370 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:18.200 Right? Yeah? 371 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:21.480 That was that was so disturbing. Now I don't remember 372 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:23.599 did he meet her? 373 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:25.400 No? 374 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.039 Okay, yeah, I was like, did I miss something? Okay, 375 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.000 So why did they explain that? Or we just haven't 376 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:34.440 gotten there? Yeah, I don't know, Okay, all right, is interesting. 377 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.519 I'm sure they'll get to that. But and then I 378 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:39.680 want to get to the episode nine. So they go 379 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:41.519 to this this is the thing that stuff was talking 380 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.160 about where we're going to get to everybody because Patrick 381 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:46.519 shows up. Everybody's there. Oh my god, I can't wait 382 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:50.000 to talk about Patrick. And they have like a little 383 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:53.240 mechanical bull and Edmund's all in it. He's all dressed 384 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:55.880 up in cowboy hat, gets on, everybody's having a great time. 385 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:58.680 And then, as we said, this fight happened out of 386 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.119 kind of nowhere. Maybe it was an editing issue for 387 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:03.160 Kb's like would you say? Would you say? And he's like, 388 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:05.839 I don't know. So she storms off and he goes 389 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:08.640 and tries to talk to her, but he can't quite 390 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:11.680 figure out why she's even mad and he can't get 391 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.079 a word in. So what disturbed me is when he 392 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:15.960 came back to the group, who didn't really seem to 393 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:17.319 give a shit about any of it. They were just 394 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:19.359 doing their own thing. He comes back and he's like, 395 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:21.000 I'm going to die to I. I'm going to die 396 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.200 to I. And I'm like, is he saying he's going 397 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:27.519 to kill himself? It was so awful that, I mean, 398 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:29.559 he I didn't. I don't think he meant like she 399 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:31.920 was going to hurt him. I think he meant he could. 400 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:35.279 He cannot handle his emotions. No, And he goes there 401 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:38.400