Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. It's Rose Pricks. It's me, Stephanie Wilder Tailor.
Speaker 1: I'm here with Cecily Nobler, and I'm going to tell
Speaker 1: you guys something. I'm really excited about this because I
Speaker 1: love to watch Love is Blind. Cecily knows this. It
Speaker 1: is a bone of contention between us because I'm very
Speaker 1: pushy about my love for Love is Blind and insisting
Speaker 1: it's a good show, and sometimes it's not. And that's
Speaker 1: and that's just what life is, you know. I watch
Speaker 1: I watch Love is Blind around the world. I've watched
Speaker 1: Sweden two seasons. I've watched France, I've watched Brazil. There's
Speaker 1: not a Love Is Blind that I'm not going to
Speaker 1: at least like take a peek. And Cecily's like that,
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want to watch it at all,
Speaker 1: but I talked her into trying it this season, and
Speaker 1: guess what, she likes it. So now I'm excited because,
Speaker 1: and you know what, for good reason, this season is
Speaker 1: trash and I love it.
Speaker 2: It's trash TV.
Speaker 3: Well, a couple things you love it. Also a lot
Speaker 3: of people listening love it. That's real, and so I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: look and Listen, it's very gift of the magi. Like
Speaker 3: I sold my facelift to buy you Love is Blind,
Speaker 3: and you sold your hair for vander Pump for me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like it is a give and take. I mean we
Speaker 3: went through vander Pump. After vander Pump with Stephanie is like,
Speaker 3: I just I just can't And I'm like, but you
Speaker 3: have to, because right scanned of all you have to
Speaker 3: because I'm out here going to all these bars that
Speaker 3: they own for you. I am bleeding for you. I
Speaker 3: am paying for these fancy drinks that vander Pump comes
Speaker 3: up with for you. Yes, at least I can do.
Speaker 3: Just sit on my couch and watch.
Speaker 1: That was fine, And you know what, I just want
Speaker 1: you to know that it makes me feel loved. It
Speaker 1: makes me feel cherished, It makes me feel not love bombed.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like like a real love, like
Speaker 1: a love that has that has.
Speaker 2: Earned right, right.
Speaker 1: I get that it was hard to talk you into it,
Speaker 1: but when you were like, all right, I'll watch it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I can't all I
Speaker 1: can do. I can't be mad that she's you know,
Speaker 1: not excited about it.
Speaker 2: Like what I can't say?
Speaker 1: Listen, you said yes, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm going to leave it at that.
Speaker 2: She said yes, And.
Speaker 1: Now that you're liking it, I just go, you know what,
Speaker 1: you really you really gave it a chance, and that
Speaker 1: makes me, it makes me feel cared for Oh sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: but it don't all walls down.
Speaker 3: My god. That was so intentional. Thank you, she'd and
Speaker 3: Stephanie did warn me before we start. She's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of Bachelor speak, like this season, these
Speaker 3: people have studied a reality show, like they know. I
Speaker 3: don't know who to believe, and we're gonna have We
Speaker 3: haven't talked about our takes yet. We have not. We
Speaker 3: only know that each other. We've watched it through episode nine.
Speaker 2: We're caught u up.
Speaker 1: We are caught up up with all the episodes and
Speaker 1: guess what they just came out today.
Speaker 3: We're really caught up. What did I do do other
Speaker 3: work that I was supposed to? Just for the record,
Speaker 3: I really just didn't do shit. I didn't feel well,
Speaker 3: so I was like, I ordered a piece of cake
Speaker 3: from Kung Caub Bistro. I also got like noodles, right,
Speaker 3: but like I really ordered just to get a giant
Speaker 3: piece of chocolate cake which I just sort of slurped
Speaker 3: down while watching the shit and I love it. Have
Speaker 3: a lot of thoughts and I can I give you
Speaker 3: one big macro.
Speaker 2: No macro it up.
Speaker 3: This is this is my this is my super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Yes yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. He I want to say,
Speaker 3: in past seasons of Love is Blind, we have had
Speaker 3: like kind of obvious like if you take a couple
Speaker 3: and you dissect that couple, there's been obviously like Heroes
Speaker 3: and Villaine, like it's been easier to look at and
Speaker 3: go that guy is great, that woman's great, that guy's
Speaker 3: not great. Like this season is back and forth. I'll
Speaker 3: be all in on one person and then I'm like, hmmm, say,
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, now there's some there is a
Speaker 3: couple of people that I actually really like. And I'm
Speaker 3: going to tell you one straight out the gate, okay,
Speaker 3: and you're going to be super there's a couple actually
Speaker 3: you love and one of them and one of them
Speaker 3: sparkle Megan, how.
Speaker 2: Did you know? Because I know you? Because I know.
Speaker 3: Okay, So why if you know me better than me?
Speaker 3: Then I know me? Because why do I like her?
Speaker 3: I don't know?
Speaker 1: I think, well, you already told me that you kind
Speaker 1: of like her slight like boss bitch energy, and she's
Speaker 1: not she's not like she's trying. I think that's what
Speaker 1: you like about her. She's kind of she's trying to
Speaker 1: do better. I think what you relate to in her
Speaker 1: is she's like, look, I do tend to like these
Speaker 1: assholes that are like a certain way, and I'm really
Speaker 1: trying to do something different here, and she did. She
Speaker 1: did something different. We'll see if it worth I.
Speaker 3: Really like that. I think she's so cute. I think
Speaker 3: she's just like so naturally attractive. I think she's classy.
Speaker 3: I really do think she's classy, and I like that
Speaker 3: she's not so far. She hasn't like emasculated him. She
Speaker 3: knows she's the one that has the money, and she
Speaker 3: knows she wants the finer things, and she's very nurturing.
Speaker 3: I'm very shocked at how much like, yeah, she likes
Speaker 3: a label and she's not trying to hide that. But
Speaker 3: she chose a guy that's sort of like, you know,
Speaker 3: doesn't know about the fancy stuff, and I love I
Speaker 3: think I'm in love with her, not sexually.
Speaker 1: Well, then let's root for those two silly kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of other people to root for.
Speaker 3: Let's take it. Let's start with the a's. Let's start
Speaker 3: with Ali and Anton. We're going to take a couple
Speaker 3: by couple, because you did text me this. Tell me
Speaker 3: what tell tell the people what you texted me about Anton?
Speaker 1: I texted you this, and I was very I was
Speaker 1: early in and this could be my own sense of activity.
Speaker 1: I have. You know, I have a radar up for alcoholism.
Speaker 1: And what I told you was I said, Anton is
Speaker 1: an alcoholic. And then in the morning he got more.
Speaker 1: It only got more clear, Like I'm telling you that
Speaker 1: I texted you that before they started to give him
Speaker 1: an alcoholic Edit.
Speaker 3: Interesting, how what was it?
Speaker 2: It was the fact.
Speaker 1: That from the beginning with him, they've only they've just
Speaker 1: always focused on his drinking and like when he went okay.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I don't think we mentioned
Speaker 1: on our first thing was that when they came out
Speaker 1: of the pod, when they met in the pods, yeah,
Speaker 1: he immediately started drinking, to the point that he wasn't
Speaker 1: even looking at her. He was very having his alcohol.
Speaker 3: We talked about it. Remember, isn't he the one that
Speaker 3: like went for himself a second drink or was that Joe, No,
Speaker 3: it was him, Okay, yeah, it was weird and she
Speaker 3: just watched him like from Afar.
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, and I'll tell you another thing.
Speaker 1: He never seems drunk, but he is always drinking. He
Speaker 1: does shot at shot after shot, and I think he
Speaker 1: just has a very high tolerance and I think he
Speaker 1: gets quiet and shut down and just drunk all the time.
Speaker 1: And this is not going to go well with these two.
Speaker 1: And it shouldn't go well with these two because she's
Speaker 1: not gonna like that, and she's a nurse, she's already.
Speaker 3: So let's take it through. We're going to do a
Speaker 3: couple by couple because we're not Let's take us. Let's
Speaker 3: take us through them first off. You know, I don't
Speaker 3: know where we want to start, but they get back,
Speaker 3: you know, they're well, we haven't even done six, so
Speaker 3: well she want to to I know Edmund, all right,
Speaker 3: let let's let's let's come back to Ali Nanton because
Speaker 3: I just want to say I did see the Edmund breakdown,
Speaker 3: if maybe, and it's hard to just talk about it
Speaker 3: through the lens of episode six. Now that I've sort
Speaker 3: of seen more because I think she gets off on
Speaker 3: pushing people. She knows that he's a little emotionally damaged.
Speaker 3: She definitely has suffers from something depression something she I
Speaker 3: think does know what she does, and I think she
Speaker 3: loves like puppeteering it. She wants to like break him
Speaker 3: down in the worst fucking way.
Speaker 2: She should. Yeah, she should work for like forum.
Speaker 3: Like sea Org too, Like she wants to break you
Speaker 3: down and then build you. But okay, Boo, you just
Speaker 3: made him like crazy. Now I'm not saying she's responsible.
Speaker 1: You don't have this even I get it. I'm with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so.
Speaker 3: Hard to watch because he was she was actively trying
Speaker 3: to make him jealous. Yeah, I fucked a lot of guys,
Speaker 3: but I'm not fucking you because I actually really like you.
Speaker 3: So we'll see at the altar. But like, I have
Speaker 3: had a lot of one night stands. But boo, it's
Speaker 3: been a while and he just started the wheels were turning.
Speaker 3: This was episode six, and he just like couldn't form
Speaker 3: and she won't let him talk, so he like could
Speaker 3: not form a thought and then it becomes emotion for him.
Speaker 3: We're later going to meet his I guess that was
Speaker 3: his mom, or's grandma's mom, his mom is mom, who's
Speaker 3: also not doing great. It seemed so like we see
Speaker 3: where it came from. And I love him. I love him,
Speaker 3: and I'm rooting for him and I'm worried about him.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's you know what, then, let's just talk about
Speaker 1: them all the way through the episodes.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do that first.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So for me, I really was uncomfortable with that scene
Speaker 1: so much that I felt scared for her. I think,
Speaker 1: I think, and now that I have seen so yeah,
Speaker 1: there's spoilers here.
Speaker 2: Now that I have seen more, I.
Speaker 1: Completely agree with you on her part of this, and
Speaker 1: she one hundred percent has a part. And she definitely
Speaker 1: is extremely emotionally manipulative and yeah.
Speaker 3: And sadistic. She like does this and then watches them
Speaker 3: like coldly. I agree, you know what I mean? Oh
Speaker 3: my god, she gives She gives me like whoof not a?
Speaker 3: And I loved her at the beginning. I was like,
Speaker 3: what a great match this is going to be.
Speaker 1: Because we felt like she had good intentions because she's
Speaker 1: like a social worker, so we were like, you know,
Speaker 1: she actually kind of does get him, right, but she
Speaker 1: does get him and she knows that she can like
Speaker 1: manipulate the shit out of him, and I believe. Okay,
Speaker 1: so late later, let's let we'll come back to this,
Speaker 1: to his breakdown. But later the last scene is so weird,
Speaker 1: and since I just saw it's fresh in my mind
Speaker 1: from episode nine, yes, yeah, from episode nine. He's he says, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's this whole there's a whole group and they're all
Speaker 1: talking and they're at the meetup where we're going to
Speaker 1: get the back contestants, the people they didn't choose, and
Speaker 1: he makes this comment where he says somebody somebody says
Speaker 1: about their partner like oh my god, like he's crazy
Speaker 1: or whatever. But Annie, well Annie said to about Nick.
Speaker 1: She knows Nick's perfect. Yeah, and she's like, I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying and he was like, oh, that must feel so nice.
Speaker 3: So Edmund is like, that must feel nice to someone
Speaker 3: to say you're perfect. He didn't even say that with
Speaker 3: a weird tone, you know, what a sweet thing to say.
Speaker 3: Then KB pops up out of nowhere. She's like, would
Speaker 3: you say would you say?
Speaker 2: Which it was?
Speaker 3: It was like, oh my god, someone protect this man. Okay,
Speaker 3: so weird, yes, but.
Speaker 1: There's stuff that we're there's clearly stuff we're not seeing,
Speaker 1: and I I do think I'm just trying to analyze
Speaker 1: it from from all angles. I do think that he
Speaker 1: is he is emotionally manipulative too, and I think that
Speaker 1: he needs so like, this is not a man who
Speaker 1: could be in a relationship right now.
Speaker 2: He's not healthy.
Speaker 1: He needs a lot of work, you know, not his fault.
Speaker 1: He's been traumatized, but he also like he doesn't he
Speaker 1: can't take any kind of confrontation. And I think her
Speaker 1: frustration is that he has all these needs, but he's
Speaker 1: too scared to say what he needs. Yeah, and she's
Speaker 1: never gonna to give him what he needs, which is
Speaker 1: which is also rough to watch because she's basically like,
Speaker 1: if listen, if you need somebody who's going to give
Speaker 1: you like reassurance, and you don't like the fact that
Speaker 1: I don't give you reassurance, then you need to communicate
Speaker 1: that with me.
Speaker 2: But he's she's not gonna do it.
Speaker 3: See like, there's a world in which I don't know
Speaker 3: that he I don't know that he can't not be
Speaker 3: in a relationship. He needs just a very nurturing woman,
Speaker 3: which is what we thought she was right like he
Speaker 3: I think he just I don't think it's that hard
Speaker 3: to be like I got you and like mean it
Speaker 3: because he hasn't said anything wrong. In fact, he didn't
Speaker 3: even get riled up about the sex thing until she
Speaker 3: riled him up. She didn't he didn't even know other
Speaker 3: people that had set like she didn't have to say
Speaker 3: she knew that was a button to say, isn't that
Speaker 3: weird that everybody else had sex? But I'm not giving
Speaker 3: it to you boo, but I do fuck random guys.
Speaker 3: I mean, she bam bam bam gave him like every
Speaker 3: possible thing to freak out about. Then he freaks out,
Speaker 3: which was weird for sure, and then she acts like
Speaker 3: what what's wrong? Like, oh, I'm just not a fan
Speaker 3: and I really like am I am I missing something?
Speaker 3: Like I don't feel I don't think his reaction was
Speaker 3: quote unquote normal. I have seen people do that spin
Speaker 3: out like that, and you really kind of can't reel
Speaker 3: them in until they just like work it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but didn't you find that to be like very scary?
Speaker 3: It was scared. I felt more scared for him, not her.
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like she was in danger. I feel
Speaker 3: like he's himself. I feel like he is a danger
Speaker 3: to himself based on other things he said, including in
Speaker 3: episode nine, and oh my god, that was really chilling.
Speaker 3: So can we tell that? Okay, So this is just
Speaker 3: so you know. The only other thing we need to
Speaker 3: know about them from the last few episodes is that
Speaker 3: fight happened. Then they you know, they kind of were
Speaker 3: doing their thing and then they went to meet.
Speaker 1: Oh but wait, let's just say because so they get
Speaker 1: in that they get in this fight, We'll say, I
Speaker 1: know we're a little all over the place, but I
Speaker 1: just I just want to bring this up first before
Speaker 1: we get to that part. So they get in this
Speaker 1: big fight, he has this crazy meltdown, as everybody knows,
Speaker 1: and he starts going like you, I want to have sex?
Speaker 1: Why can't I have sex? When you start screaming about
Speaker 1: how I'm too nice? And my problem with that was like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean you're too nice? Like you didn't
Speaker 1: hit her? Like what does that mean you're too nice?
Speaker 1: So you're too nice to allow her to not sleep?
Speaker 1: I was trying to understand.
Speaker 3: She was trying to say, nice guys, finish last. You
Speaker 3: will go being this bad dude that you don't care about. Right,
Speaker 3: But she did not have to keep telling him that either,
Speaker 3: Like she she said it once, which was probably once
Speaker 3: too many, right, she'd have to say it ten times
Speaker 3: and watch him squirm. So, yeah, that's true. Wound him up.
Speaker 1: So she wound him up, and then he starts really
Speaker 1: crying and yelling, and then she's like, okay, well, it
Speaker 1: turned out what I read on like from interviews and stuff,
Speaker 1: is that she did go like sleep on the balcony
Speaker 1: or something. She did not sleep in bed with him,
Speaker 1: which I was kind glad because it seemed it seemed
Speaker 1: scary to me. I really didn't like it.
Speaker 3: Why not the couch? She's so dramatic. I'm just yeah,
Speaker 3: it was scary. It was scary, but I think it,
Speaker 3: like I said, it's worth I think it's scarier for him.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then, but what I was going to say
Speaker 1: before we get to the rest of it is that
Speaker 1: she does this thing and she even kind of calls
Speaker 1: herself out on it. She's like yeah, so he apologizes
Speaker 1: to her. I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry I acted
Speaker 1: like that that was like totally wrong whatever, and then
Speaker 1: she's like yeah, she goes, well, you know, like basically
Speaker 1: like yeah, I'll get over it, like I'm not over
Speaker 1: it right now, Like I will get over it, so
Speaker 1: you know, but I was so sorry I'm being dry
Speaker 1: but like I'm not over it, which is which was
Speaker 1: the first It's fair, but it was also when I
Speaker 1: first started to be like, hey, well, like, so he
Speaker 1: doesn't know how long it's going to take for you
Speaker 1: to get over it, Like it's it's unsettling for him, right.
Speaker 2: I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. And my parents used to kind
Speaker 1: of do that to me, where it's like, yeah, well
Speaker 1: I don't really Yeah it's cold, and it's like, well
Speaker 1: I haven't forgiven you, so we'll see.
Speaker 2: And he's super long that's going to take.
Speaker 3: For very obvious reasons. Yeah, I mean like he's emotionally unwell,
Speaker 3: there's quite a few people who are emotionally and well
Speaker 3: when we get into yeah, but I want to say
Speaker 3: what happened? So she so she does go and meet
Speaker 3: his Edmund's mom, who is I don't want to be
Speaker 3: on I don't want to be disrespectful to the mom,
Speaker 3: but you know we are we are doing a show. Yeh,
Speaker 3: Like she's a lot let's just say it like that
Speaker 3: she's a lot a lot and I'm not like, I'm
Speaker 3: not surprised that Edmund has some problems.
Speaker 2: Oh, she's a.
Speaker 1: Lot a lot, And I maybe this is wrong to say,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to say it anyway, because as you
Speaker 1: just pointed out, we are we are a show. This
Speaker 1: is just this is just you know, but I felt
Speaker 1: like there is maybe some substances going on.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, one hundred percent. And I hate saying
Speaker 3: that we don't one hundred percent know that, but I
Speaker 3: felt that one hundred percent. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like I we can't we're not saying because we are
Speaker 3: not there, but yes, I one hundred percent felt there
Speaker 3: was something going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something going on that It's like, it's very sad because,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever was going on, this man is thirty
Speaker 1: years old and the mom was being super like she's
Speaker 1: under the delusion that she was a good mom, and
Speaker 1: it's like your son grew up in foster care.
Speaker 3: And Edmund so patiently sat and let his mom speak
Speaker 3: and let you know he was he never he didn't
Speaker 3: talk shit about her like you know, afterwards, he just
Speaker 3: sat really close, like I think he's such a loving person.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that Kay and KP was respectful
Speaker 3: too of the mom, but she was saying, basically, she
Speaker 3: threw every other daughter in law under the bus. She's like,
Speaker 3: you're the only one that can like she basically said,
Speaker 3: she hates all her other son's wives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then her others wives like rap her out
Speaker 1: to her sons. So like, but she can tell that
Speaker 1: Kb's the type. And you know what, how she could
Speaker 1: tell she could she could probably sense that KB didn't
Speaker 1: like Edmund that much.
Speaker 3: Right, He's like, you're not going to wrap me out?
Speaker 3: And I like, you get it?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was that was so disturbing. Now I don't remember
Speaker 3: did he meet her?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I was like, did I miss something? Okay,
Speaker 3: So why did they explain that? Or we just haven't
Speaker 3: gotten there? Yeah, I don't know, Okay, all right, is interesting.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll get to that. But and then I
Speaker 3: want to get to the episode nine. So they go
Speaker 3: to this this is the thing that stuff was talking
Speaker 3: about where we're going to get to everybody because Patrick
Speaker 3: shows up. Everybody's there. Oh my god, I can't wait
Speaker 3: to talk about Patrick. And they have like a little
Speaker 3: mechanical bull and Edmund's all in it. He's all dressed
Speaker 3: up in cowboy hat, gets on, everybody's having a great time.
Speaker 3: And then, as we said, this fight happened out of
Speaker 3: kind of nowhere. Maybe it was an editing issue for
Speaker 3: Kb's like would you say? Would you say? And he's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know. So she storms off and he goes
Speaker 3: and tries to talk to her, but he can't quite
Speaker 3: figure out why she's even mad and he can't get
Speaker 3: a word in. So what disturbed me is when he
Speaker 3: came back to the group, who didn't really seem to
Speaker 3: give a shit about any of it. They were just
Speaker 3: doing their own thing. He comes back and he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to die to I. I'm going to die
Speaker 3: to I. And I'm like, is he saying he's going
Speaker 3: to kill himself? It was so awful that, I mean,
Speaker 3: he I didn't. I don't think he meant like she
Speaker 3: was going to hurt him. I think he meant he could.
Speaker 3: He cannot handle his emotions. No, And he goes there
Speaker 3: real fast. I am very worried about it.
Speaker 1: I mean about it too, but I also don't think
Speaker 1: that I don't think as much as I'm worried about him.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's her responsibility. But what we thought
Speaker 1: at the beginning that she was a good match is
Speaker 1: turning out to really be the opposite. And he's he's
Speaker 1: going to be emotionally damaged by like he doesn't know
Speaker 1: which way is up because she won't give him an inch.
Speaker 1: Like when he says okay, he's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do. I don't know what you want me.
Speaker 3: To say, and I'll just sit here and listen. He's like, okay,
Speaker 3: you don't want me to talk, I'll listen. And she's
Speaker 3: still fight. She just wants to fight with him so
Speaker 3: she can't fix him.
Speaker 2: And then she just get away from me, go away
Speaker 2: for me, go away from me, And.
Speaker 3: So he does, and then he doesn't know what to do,
Speaker 3: and no one's really there for him because these people
Speaker 3: are all kind of idiots. So she goes back and
Speaker 3: it's not like anyone's like, hey, except for Joe, I
Speaker 3: believe who get to But Joe was sort of like
Speaker 3: I think, or was it Joe or Jordan was like
Speaker 3: you got to go just back, just man, just go apologize.
Speaker 3: It was like, no, no bad advice, that's bad advice.
Speaker 3: He didn't do anything to apologize for. She should apologize.
Speaker 3: He didn't do anything wrong. Just let it be, let
Speaker 3: her be, break up with her. Actually, don't marry her.
Speaker 2: I mean that.
Speaker 1: See the problem is that she has all the hand
Speaker 1: and I think that I think, and I'm analyzing on
Speaker 1: the spot, but I think she knew that. I think
Speaker 1: she sensed that about him. I think she sensed that
Speaker 1: she was going to have hand all in hand with him,
Speaker 1: and now she's like sort of working it or whatever, and.
Speaker 3: She won't have sex with him, even though I thought
Speaker 3: she was a I think you said she was a virgin.
Speaker 3: I never said that. I thought somebody may have said.
Speaker 3: Maybe somewhere I saw that she's not like of all
Speaker 3: people that is telling us that she's not even really
Speaker 3: that attracted to him at all. It's all just fun
Speaker 3: to be on a show and fuck with him. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying she's that malicious. I'm sure she's not, but like,
Speaker 3: I don't like what I'm seeing at all.
Speaker 1: I don't like it either. It's really disturbing. But the
Speaker 1: whole thing is disturbing. Like he's done things that are disturbing,
Speaker 1: she's doing things that are disturbing, but she's not nice
Speaker 1: to him almost ever. And that's what he was kind
Speaker 1: of trying to say, is like, it would be so
Speaker 1: nice to have somebody that's like kind to me. And
Speaker 1: his whole thing is like, you've never you never say
Speaker 1: anything like nice about me, And then she was screaming
Speaker 1: at him, like, what are you talking about? I just
Speaker 1: didn't I just say I appreciate you. It's which is not,
Speaker 1: that's not I, that's not You're amazing. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: to be with you. He's not getting that, like and
Speaker 1: and the other couples are doing that, so she completely
Speaker 1: he has a point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, I'll take it even further.
Speaker 3: We're so serious. We're usually like funny about this shit,
Speaker 3: but we're really upset. We're like, but I will say this.
Speaker 3: I feel like he didn't even say that at first.
Speaker 3: All he said was like, what a nice compliment to
Speaker 3: be told you're perfect. I didn't get the vibe at
Speaker 3: all that he was even saying anything about k B
Speaker 3: at all. Not until she pushed him did he say, well,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you don't really not that nice to me.
Speaker 3: But he wasn't saying that at first, so maybe you're right.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was an editing thing where he said that
Speaker 3: in the past, and I could see how that would
Speaker 3: piss That would piss me off. If a guy was
Speaker 3: saying something that wasn't I didn't feel was true of me,
Speaker 3: I would get I get triggered by stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So maybe, and that I think what she's what she
Speaker 1: got mad about, even though she handles it's so wrong,
Speaker 1: What she got mad about is that she's like, but
Speaker 1: you don't you save it for here, like now you're
Speaker 1: going to air. Now you're going to tell people like, oh,
Speaker 1: I never say nice things about you. But he was
Speaker 1: then trying to say, but I wasn't trying to do
Speaker 1: it here, you, I was just I.
Speaker 3: Was making give me a compliment.
Speaker 1: But she's like, well, if you have some if you
Speaker 1: have problems with me, if you're upset and don't think
Speaker 1: I'm nice, Like, how come you've never told me? How
Speaker 1: come you won't tell me that? And I think the
Speaker 1: reason you won't tell her that is because he's petrified
Speaker 1: of her. Yeah, because she gets so mad at him, right,
Speaker 1: and then she'll forget it, don't talk to me anymore.
Speaker 1: And it's very destabilizing and he's not the right person
Speaker 1: to destabilize exactly.
Speaker 3: So we're not loving it. We'll see, they're not going
Speaker 3: to make it. I don't think he's going to god know,
Speaker 3: and if they do, she'll say no at the altar,
Speaker 3: just to fuck with him one last time, you know,
Speaker 3: Like I just don't see it at all. And he
Speaker 3: can do that's not he can. I mean, look, she's
Speaker 3: beautiful and great and she'll find someone for her. But
Speaker 3: he's got like, he's got some he's got some style,
Speaker 3: Like I see him. I want to see him have
Speaker 3: some fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love I'm scared for like, I'm scared
Speaker 1: for him thinking that they're together. Is he going to
Speaker 1: be strong enough? How's he going to get through? I mean,
Speaker 1: we're going to get it.
Speaker 3: Well, they're already done, right, this isn't live.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.
Speaker 3: But so he's still with us, you know.
Speaker 2: No, you're so right, you're still like real time.
Speaker 3: We're not like in a SIMS game where it wants
Speaker 3: to be like unplug like as though you have to
Speaker 3: unplug your PlayStation or do you have to unplug it?
Speaker 2: You just turn it off.
Speaker 3: You don't even have to turn it off, just walk away.
Speaker 1: I'm just so worried about the fact that casting put
Speaker 1: him on this show. I just feel like didn't weren't
Speaker 1: they thinking about his emotional well being and how how
Speaker 1: is he going to handle a breakup? Maybe they didn't
Speaker 1: pick up on Maybe they just they knew his background.
Speaker 1: They know that people who grew up in foster care,
Speaker 1: and I mean they had to have keep met, they
Speaker 1: meet with like psychologists. They can't just put people on
Speaker 1: a dating show to get married.
Speaker 3: Well, they signed, they have a lot of legal and
Speaker 3: they signed stuff it says not their fault. And then
Speaker 3: they don't give a shit. It's TV, We're talking about it.
Speaker 3: They know what they're doing. Yeah, but we root for him,
Speaker 3: We root for him. Okay, let's go back to Ali
Speaker 3: and Anton. So Anton, Yeah, he's They both work night shifts.
Speaker 3: She's a nurse, which concerns me as someone who had
Speaker 3: to be in the hospital for quite some time with
Speaker 3: a couple of nurses that were similar to her that
Speaker 3: I did not care for. And yes I did call
Speaker 3: the manager on them. Now, do you you don't think
Speaker 3: she's nice? No, I do think she's nice. I just
Speaker 3: don't know that, like, I don't know that I'd want
Speaker 3: her as much. I know there's something about her that, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of nursees she she's an
Speaker 3: overnight nurse in what like the er. They say she
Speaker 3: probably works at the hospital.
Speaker 2: She does work at that hospital.
Speaker 3: But yeah, she's nice. I don't know. I think she
Speaker 3: hasn't done anything terribly wrong. I'm going to say that
Speaker 3: I like her.
Speaker 1: I think she wants I mean, listen, she is she
Speaker 1: somebody that i'd be friends with and i'd go hang
Speaker 1: out with. Probably not, but of the two of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I prefer her. Yeah, I agree. And I liked
Speaker 3: him at first. I like them together. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is a good couple, the same. And then we
Speaker 3: see this big question mark because yeah, he works nice
Speaker 3: as well, and he likes a drink. And it's not
Speaker 3: just mimosas in the morning. It's like every morning a beer.
Speaker 3: Not that we're counting his drinks, but well.
Speaker 1: I am because I'm watching it on a show and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, he always talks about alcohol. So the
Speaker 1: when it really started to be a parent is well,
Speaker 1: it was like every scene he was there's alcohol involved.
Speaker 1: And then there's even a scene when they're still on
Speaker 1: vacation where he's trying to get her to drink wine
Speaker 1: and she's like, she's just not that.
Speaker 3: Like little yeah, she's like not wanting to get wasted.
Speaker 1: And he drinks the whole glass of wine basically, and
Speaker 1: then she's like oh, and then he hands it to
Speaker 1: her and she's like you can tell she's kind of
Speaker 1: annoyed because she's like, yeah, is there anything even in here?
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, there's a little left, but he
Speaker 2: swigs it's it just bombs.
Speaker 3: It's obvious. And now here's something else weird. So she
Speaker 3: goes to meet his friends. She's not meeting his family,
Speaker 3: she's going to meet like, I guess, one of his
Speaker 3: good friends. And then that guy's girlfriend of four months,
Speaker 3: which is all months four months, and it's a little weird.
Speaker 3: And that guy, the guy that shows up is please
Speaker 3: don't get mad if you're like him listening, if you
Speaker 3: are the guy the friend of Anton and you're like
Speaker 3: listening to this, sorry, but you read shady as fuck
Speaker 3: to me. That guy is somebody who sells you a
Speaker 3: fake purse in like Manhattan. Oh yeah, there's something I
Speaker 3: don't know. And then the strip clubs and it was
Speaker 3: weird when the girls went off to the bathroom and
Speaker 3: the four month girlfriend is like, you should know that
Speaker 3: they too love to go to strip clubs together, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I think I.
Speaker 1: Think she was asking. I think she was basically saying,
Speaker 1: because you could tell that she was already put off.
Speaker 1: First of all, this is a guy who constantly is like,
Speaker 1: let's do shots, yes, including that night, how many? And
Speaker 1: he's he's like in his thirties, you know, for I
Speaker 1: don't know how old.
Speaker 3: He is, but he's reading older than I think he is.
Speaker 3: He reads forties. He could be late, for he looks
Speaker 3: like he late forties, but he's probably in his thirties.
Speaker 1: Okay, but he's in his thirties, he's not twenty one,
Speaker 1: he's not in college. And he's constantly like, we got
Speaker 1: to do shots, we gotta do And you can tell
Speaker 1: that she isn't into it, right, he's just pushing.
Speaker 2: Her to drink so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got some stuff. He's definitely in a wild.
Speaker 1: So my point is that not to was not to
Speaker 1: just keep driving that point, but my point was that
Speaker 1: I wonder if she was asking, like he seems to
Speaker 1: like to party a lot.
Speaker 3: Right, And then we just hear the girlfriend kind of
Speaker 3: I put that in quotes, but it was weird when
Speaker 3: we went to the bathroom and the friend like comes
Speaker 3: over and sits next to him and is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like there was just I don't know, I didn't, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I yeah, too much drinking weirdness. But it makes me
Speaker 3: sad because otherwise I thought that they were actually kind
Speaker 3: of a cool couple. She likes kind of a manly
Speaker 3: man and that he's sort of that, you know, he
Speaker 3: is cute when is when he's slightly sober, good looking dude, Yeah.
Speaker 1: He is, but there's so there's something is just off
Speaker 1: with him, and she's so the friend is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he loves to go to strip clubs, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna like work for me, And.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh no, no, no, I mean, I mean
Speaker 2: he loved.
Speaker 1: It like when he was single. But as Cecily disappointed out,
Speaker 1: he's only been this guy. The friend has only been
Speaker 1: with his girlfriend for four months so as of four
Speaker 1: months ago.
Speaker 3: And moved in immediately. The friend was like, yeah, we
Speaker 3: moved in after our first date. I just never left.
Speaker 3: Like there's some weird shit going on in this whole group. Yes,
Speaker 3: you're right, it's not Ali's fault. She's fine, yeah, and he's.
Speaker 1: And she's not having it. She's just like, that's that's
Speaker 1: not that's not going to be. I think I like
Speaker 1: her because I feel like she's strong. Yeah, and she's
Speaker 1: what we liked about her at the beginning is like
Speaker 1: English wasn't even her first language.
Speaker 2: She moved, She's very driven.
Speaker 1: She wants to better herself, and I think she's been Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the writing's on the wall, Like I thought this
Speaker 1: guy was going to be kind of like a guy
Speaker 1: who could take care of me a little bit. She
Speaker 1: wants a guy to take care of her. She wants
Speaker 1: to relax a little bit. She wants to go back
Speaker 1: to school, get her botox, which I fully get totally.
Speaker 1: And he's already like, yeah, I don't know about that, right,
Speaker 1: He's already being a little controlling, right, and then.
Speaker 2: And she's like, well, maybe I could still have my own.
Speaker 3: Bank account and he's like, yeah, not really, He's like,
Speaker 3: why would you do that? Yeah, I mean that's like
Speaker 3: that is a little red flag that a guy would
Speaker 3: even care an have your own bank account.
Speaker 2: Of course, so he okay.
Speaker 1: So there's a scene where they both get home from
Speaker 1: work and they both worked all night, so now that's
Speaker 1: the morning, and he's like, let's have mimosas. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: she's like, I mean okay, but like, is this you
Speaker 1: like every every morning? And he's like, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: That's what I like to do for breakfast, like mimosas,
Speaker 1: And she's like huh. And then we find out I
Speaker 1: don't know if he says it, or maybe I read
Speaker 1: this on Reddit that he had said he liked he
Speaker 1: or he said I have.
Speaker 2: Like a couple of drinks every day. Think he's saying this. Friend.
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, so every day after you get
Speaker 1: back from work, you have some drinks okay in the morning,
Speaker 1: and then I guess you go to bed or whatever.
Speaker 1: But also on top of that, you party, so like
Speaker 1: then you go out do like.
Speaker 2: A ton of shots.
Speaker 1: So she's seeing that the writing is on the wall
Speaker 1: and I'm but what I thought was interesting and I
Speaker 1: want to know your opinion, she says at the restaurant
Speaker 1: with the crazy with the shady guy who sells fake purses.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, like you basically I heard something about you,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, we're going to need to talk
Speaker 1: about it. You're in trouble, and he's like, oh yeah, really,
Speaker 1: and then they never really showed them talking about it.
Speaker 3: Well, she didn't want to talk about it there, so
Speaker 3: it was kind of weird that they never had a scene.
Speaker 1: Yet they had a whole another episode. Good call, and
Speaker 1: you were right.
Speaker 3: I hadn't noticed the baby voice at first, but when
Speaker 3: she said brecky, so she's like, let's have recky.
Speaker 2: Have frecky.
Speaker 3: You're a grown ass woman. And that's what I'm talking
Speaker 3: about with the nurse thing, Like I think it's amazing
Speaker 3: that she's a nurse. Any person who goes into nursing
Speaker 3: is like a fucking saint in my book. But I
Speaker 3: had nurses like that where you're just like, remember the
Speaker 3: one that wouldn't give me tylan all yes, because she
Speaker 3: was like twenty two years old and just didn't understand
Speaker 3: I know the word to use, Like, didn't understand that
Speaker 3: her ICU heart patient had a fever. It's like any
Speaker 3: tailand she goes, you can't have it until nine, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, get me the fucking manager. I Shirlie mcclained myself.
Speaker 3: I I gave my son. I had to give my
Speaker 3: daughter the shot. I was the daughter, but she reminds
Speaker 3: me of that woman she kind of she really did
Speaker 3: top like this. She was very pretty, and she's very blonde,
Speaker 3: and not that she's blonde, but you know, like nothing
Speaker 3: wrong with being blonde. But we just were not. I
Speaker 3: was just not having it. And I think she triggers
Speaker 3: that memory soundays like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that a little bit.
Speaker 3: But remember how that ended really quick before we move on.
Speaker 3: I don't know for a break time yet or for uh,
Speaker 3: we want to do another couple, but I will tell
Speaker 3: you how that ended. With the nurse. I got the manager.
Speaker 3: The manager was like, of course, you can have a
Speaker 3: tile in all and then like gave a really mean look.
Speaker 3: I got like I had to fill out so many forms,
Speaker 3: like you're not going to sue us? Right, I'm not
Speaker 3: joking really, I mean I was definitely in the right.
Speaker 3: I got letters a year after the fact. I got
Speaker 3: a letter like were you happy with the way we
Speaker 3: managed that? I was like yeah, yeah, yeah. So I
Speaker 3: had to deal with her for because the shifts, the
Speaker 3: nurses are on twelve hour shifts, and so I had
Speaker 3: to deal with her until the morning and the morning
Speaker 3: I think she was forced to come in and she
Speaker 3: was like, really sorry about that. I really should have
Speaker 3: given you a tile and all. You had a pretty
Speaker 3: bad fever. Would you like me to braid your hair?
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, we're good, And I was
Speaker 3: like I appreciated it. I was like, that is we're
Speaker 3: good now? Were forever good? That was a very nice offer.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I also, I too have had some really mean nurses.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked about this on another show,
Speaker 1: but I had one so many years ago before it
Speaker 1: was cool. I had a breast reduction surgery. So I
Speaker 1: was only twenty years old, so this was like, you know,
Speaker 1: almost forty years ago or so. And back then they
Speaker 1: kind of judged you for having elective surgery.
Speaker 2: So nobody wanted to deal with.
Speaker 1: Me because there was like, ugh, she didn't she doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be here, she's not sick, so nobody would
Speaker 1: wash my hair. And I was back then you were
Speaker 1: actually in the hospital for a while when you had
Speaker 1: something like that. I had drains, I couldn't move my
Speaker 1: arms and this nurse was so so like mean, like mean,
Speaker 1: not just grumpy, but like a bitch to me. And
Speaker 1: I also complained about her.
Speaker 3: Did you do they Okay, by the way, I didn't
Speaker 3: even think about washing my hair, for I was in
Speaker 3: the hospital for over a week and I didn't wash
Speaker 3: my hair. Fuck Now, I was like, what am I
Speaker 3: going to wash my hair? Yeah, like a tube in
Speaker 3: my throat. Well, you had heart surgery. It's a little different,
Speaker 3: I guess. But in conclusion, I'm not I'm going to
Speaker 3: try not to take all of that out on Ali.
Speaker 3: It's not her fault that I had that experience, and
Speaker 3: she is pretty bad ass for being a night nurse.
Speaker 3: That's not easy. And I believe that she's going to
Speaker 3: stand up in the way she needs to dance and
Speaker 3: she's not gonna up with any of the shit. She's
Speaker 3: going to be fine. I don't know if they're going
Speaker 3: to end.
Speaker 1: And The Coming Attractions doesn't she say something like he
Speaker 1: can really do he takes care of me, or he
Speaker 1: can really take care of me.
Speaker 3: Well, that's why, that's why I purposely don't watch The
Speaker 3: Coming Attractions because it always shows like the guy sta.
Speaker 3: I don't even want to see it because it's always misleading.
Speaker 3: I mean, they could end up together because she likes
Speaker 3: I think she likes a guy like that. But I
Speaker 3: will give her this, She's one of the only people
Speaker 3: on the show that's not crazy. She's like, I feel
Speaker 3: kind of bad that I even didn't say that right away,
Speaker 3: because she's not insane, she's not manipulative, she have a
Speaker 3: substance problem, she's a hard workers, gorgeous.
Speaker 1: And Okay, here's one other thing I want to say
Speaker 1: though about that's the couple as a situation as a
Speaker 1: situation and what I'm talking about. But I thought he
Speaker 1: I don't like the way he communicates either, because at
Speaker 1: one point when she was saying the thing about like
Speaker 1: she's being clear on what she wants, you know, whether
Speaker 1: you like it or not, whether you think she's kind
Speaker 1: of being a gold digger, which she's not, because he
Speaker 1: doesn't know it's not rich, but you know, she's saying, like,
Speaker 1: this is what I want. I'm looking for somebody like
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to work, you know,
Speaker 1: because I'm going to go to school, and that's what
Speaker 1: I really what I really want.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be able to work a little, I'll
Speaker 2: work like one.
Speaker 3: Shift a week, but you know, he said yeah, and
Speaker 3: he said that he goes as long as you work
Speaker 3: one or two days, right.
Speaker 1: But then when she says like yeah, and I'm also
Speaker 1: going to want to like have some botox, he's kind
Speaker 1: of shutting down and you can sense it and she
Speaker 1: knows it. And this really pisses me off when guys
Speaker 1: do this and he's doing it, he just he's not
Speaker 1: he's having feels about it, and he will not say so.
Speaker 1: He's just kind of shutting down. And she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: but like, how do you feel about that? And he's
Speaker 1: like fine, right, He's like, but I don't I feel
Speaker 1: like something's a little well.
Speaker 3: She says, I feel like, well, something's still a little
Speaker 3: off though. Yet's have wrecky okay, champs champshamp Champ champs wrecky.
Speaker 2: And he's like, what, No, what do you talking about off?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: She's like, I just feel like you're being weird and
Speaker 1: he's like, well, I'm not, like, okay, but you are.
Speaker 1: And then later it's going to come up and you're
Speaker 1: going to have a resentment and you're going to be
Speaker 1: like whatever your thing is, whether you're going to be
Speaker 1: like I think you're using me. I feel like you're
Speaker 1: being a gold digger. I feel like you're too high maintenance,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, fucking say it right then, right, thank you?
Speaker 3: You know what I am with you. I think this
Speaker 3: is a good place to break. We've got three more
Speaker 3: couples to talk about. Yeah, we did too, so why
Speaker 3: don't you just bear with us? I promise will be funnier.
Speaker 3: Actually I cannot promise that. I did not feel well,
Speaker 3: and I'm when I don't feel well, I get serious
Speaker 3: and these people are ralls off.
Speaker 1: Okay, we are, we do have we do have a
Speaker 1: lot more to get to and we are going to
Speaker 1: be funny. I'm just saying that. I'm putting it out there.
Speaker 1: It's like an affirmation we're going to be funnier. I
Speaker 1: got that shit. Yeah, And this also gives you a
Speaker 1: chance to, like, go watch another episode if you want.
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, catch up, listen whenever you feel like it,
Speaker 3: and we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Okay, bye, Hi
Speaker 1: A