WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:14.119 Let's get the five o'clock hours. Started off here as 2 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:17.039 a game day edition of Coffee and Company, fuel by 3 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:20.079 Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee, that's 4 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:24.440 me Radio, Rick Ryder alongside today. Austin will be back 5 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:29.239 tomorrow and I think we'll also in the next couple 6 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.240 of days we'll welcome back the company man, mister John 7 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.320 Alden to join us as well. But Rick's been holding 8 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:36.039 down for us over the last couple of days. Always 9 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:36.920 a pleasure to work with you. 10 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:37.159 Rick. 11 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:39.000 Let me ask you this, and I hope I'm not 12 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:42.119 overstepping here, but you're married, right. 13 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:44.079 That's right, forty seven years. 14 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.840 So if you mind me asking how did you and 15 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:48.280 your wife meet? 16 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:52.719 Well, we actually met at a singles function at a 17 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:53.439 local church. 18 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:56.200 That's awesome. You couldn't have given me a better answer. 19 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:57.479 You say, forty seven years. 20 00:00:57.640 --> 00:00:58.600 Forty seven years. 21 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:00.960 Congratulations, that's awesome. I got a lot more to go. 22 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:04.159 My wife and I we've been together. This may will 23 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:09.400 be our thirty fourteenth anniversary, which is crazy, how fast, crazy, 24 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:11.599 how fast life goes. But I saw something here during 25 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.840 the break that it doesn't really surprise me. Just you know, 26 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.439 when you give it some thought, but it's a breakdown 27 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:22.879 of how couples have met from nineteen thirty to now 28 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.319 in twenty twenty four. And of course, as you could expect, 29 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:27.680 it used to be, you know, way back in the 30 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:31.239 days we're talking in the seventies and the eighties. I mean, 31 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:35.760 it was you met your significant other through friends, mutual friends, 32 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.799 maybe coworkers, or you met them at a borrower restaurant, 33 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.719 you were introduced to them with family, and then by 34 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:45.519 the time we got to really guess what year was it. 35 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:47.439 And it's a really cool video that I'm trying to 36 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.439 scan through because it just shows you each year what 37 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:54.120 the percentage of couples that exist, you know, And it's no, 38 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:55.760 it's not a perfect science, but it's just I guess, 39 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:57.400 a survey to figure out how you know, of all 40 00:01:57.400 --> 00:01:59.959 the people that are together, whether they're couple or their 41 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.359 married or whatever it may be, how they met. And 42 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:07.000 when you got to right around two thousand and eleven, 43 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:09.639 that is when it shifted to where the majority the 44 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:13.319 leading way people have met is online. And now as 45 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:17.319 we sit in twenty twenty four, it's set sixty percent 46 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:21.000 have now have met on the couples that are together. 47 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:25.280 Sixty percent of them they met online. Thirteen percent roughly 48 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:28.599 thirteen fourteen percent is they met through friends. So my 49 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:31.960 wife and I we were high school sweethearts, as they say, 50 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.000 I mean, we met long before high school. We grew 51 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:38.599 up together. But yeah, you know, I just I never 52 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:40.400 really give it much thought because again I can't relate. 53 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:41.879 But I guess it does make sense given where we 54 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:45.159 are technologically and how we're on our devices at all times. 55 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:47.479 It's a convenient thing that I guess it shouldn't surprise 56 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:49.520 me that to see that the majority of people that 57 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:52.479 are now together they ended up meeting via the Internet, 58 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:55.759 rather it be Facebook or a dating app or whatever 59 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:56.159 it may be. 60 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:57.280 Yeah, it makes sense. 61 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.120 Yeah, forty seven years congratulations, man. 62 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.080 Yeah, that's all such things online. 63 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:04.360 Oh yeah, we're going together. Well, let me ask you 64 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:06.240 this whenever. And I love that you said going together 65 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:10.240 because that's old school. I like that when you all met, 66 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:12.520 was that sort of like a I mean, I would 67 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.479 imagine that was one of the more frequent ways for 68 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:16.879 people to meet and potentially see if they find a 69 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:18.960 match and you know, become become an item. 70 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:22.719 Right, That's pretty much the way it was we met. 71 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:25.599 It like I said, this church function, I was in 72 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:28.400 radio full time at that time and we were I 73 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:32.840 was m seing a dance where I was playing the records. 74 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:33.680 And she knew you were the one. 75 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:35.840 Yeah, I guess she came up to the stage and 76 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:36.919 you made quite an impression. 77 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:37.240 Clearly. 78 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.639 She kept asking for songs, and finally I got her 79 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:42.520 phone number and the rest is history. 80 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:47.199 That's awesome, good stuff, good stuff there, forty seven years. 81 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.919 Congratulations to you guys. I hope to make it to 82 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:53.719 forty seven as well. But yeah, good stuff. All right. 83 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:56.479 So let's just talk really quickly about the Bellerman game. 84 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:58.960 And I'm not going to I don't want to dismiss it, 85 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:00.199 like you know, we're just going to spend a couple 86 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.639 of minutes on it. But I also don't think the 87 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.759 game itself, as far as the matchup is something that 88 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:06.719 is that is all that intriguing. But maybe I'm wrong. 89 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.840 But for me, other than this game, as far as 90 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.159 the scheduling, and that's something we've talked about throughout the 91 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:14.719 first couple of hours. If you are just now joining 92 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:18.560 us again, disclaimer, I mean, I think most people, at 93 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:20.800 least I hope most people hear what I'm saying, and 94 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:23.519 they're not necessarily having selective hearing. I'm not saying that 95 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:26.560 I'm anti Louisville Bellerman and that they shouldn't play. I'm 96 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:28.800 fine with them playing. Love Scotty Davenport. I want to 97 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:30.399 see Bellerman do well, and if it's good for them, 98 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.920 then great. I just I think you're going to see 99 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.160 some programs, and maybe not this one. Maybe Pat Kelsey 100 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:37.920 doesn't care, but I think you're going to see some 101 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:42.040 programs some coaches, I should say not programs, but coaches decide, Okay, 102 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.439 we really need to beef up our non conference schedule. 103 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:46.839 As we just talked with Cel Brown there in the 104 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:49.800 four o'clock hour, the ACC has really emphasized when it 105 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:53.519 comes to non conference scheduling. You know, one of the 106 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:56.920 fact I mean, it's true it started right before the pandemic, 107 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:58.839 because I remember Chris Mack was pretty vocal about it 108 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:01.040 on his Coaches Show one time. Now you've got a 109 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:02.839 bunch of teams in the ACC that are going and 110 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:05.079 scheduling teams in the three hundreds, and then they would 111 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:07.480 mess around and lose to one of them, and that 112 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:09.480 would really bring the whole league down in a way. 113 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:12.920 And that's when you started to see the slow decline 114 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:16.279 of opportunities to get quad one real valuable wins in 115 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:20.279 league play. I mean the ACC. I mean it's fallen 116 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.399 off substantially in basketball. I mean it used to be 117 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.759 every week you had at least one. I mean, I 118 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:28.279 don't know if it was. It would be a rare 119 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:30.759 week to not have an opportunity in league play from 120 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:33.759 like January to March to get a real valuable win. 121 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.000 Maybe not a win that's going to get you, you know, 122 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:38.839 a big boost when with your resume, but a win 123 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:42.839 that's got value. And now you see so many ACC 124 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:45.759 teams scheduling teams in the three hundreds, and some of 125 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.720 them will mess around and lose, and it just it's 126 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:49.920 a killer of the league. So you know, with that 127 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.759 in mind, if Bellerman stays kind of where they are, 128 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:55.040 I just think it wouldn't be a shocker if you 129 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:58.920 find out that the ACC is advising Louisville to not 130 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.000 play those kind of teams and therefore they're going to 131 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:03.199 not do it. Now, what I hope happens, and I 132 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:07.399 could certainly see this happening, is that coach Davenport's program 133 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:09.360 they end up kind of getting back to where they 134 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.040 were when they first made the jump to Division One. 135 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:12.639 They're not there right now. They've had a couple of 136 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:15.240 tough losses here. They're zero to four on the season, 137 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.240 and they were up nearly twenty points. I think it 138 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:22.759 was against Southern Indiana and let that one slip away 139 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.199 got to be a heartbreaker for coach Davenport and his team. 140 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:27.000 And then I think even VMI is another team they 141 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.279 played that they I don't know if they were in control, 142 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:30.680 but it was a close game that they could have 143 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.560 easily won. The other losses have come against the other 144 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:37.120 losses have come against vm I or I'm sorry, I 145 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:39.839 v I BCU, who they played to start the season, 146 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.079 and that's a tough game for him. They lost that 147 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:44.480 win eighty four to sixty five. And then they did 148 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:47.519 lose to Marshall on the road this past weekend by 149 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:51.399 twenty one. So if you go back, let me. Actually, 150 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:52.839 I can do it right here in the Ken Palm formula. 151 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:56.680 Here we go. So Bellerman they finished twenty and thirteen 152 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.839 in the year two thousand two, and they were ranked 153 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:04.560 number two hundred in the kin Pom. When it's all 154 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:07.480 said and done, that team is a team you should 155 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:10.600 absolutely play because you know, well they might beat you. 156 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:12.480 I mean, that was a good Scott Davenport team, and 157 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:14.399 usually his teams are good. This team may be good too. 158 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:16.439 They're just not really in that position right now, and 159 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:18.560 unfortunately the last two years have led to them just 160 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.800 not really being in a great spot when it comes 161 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.920 to these numbers. In twenty twenty one, they finished one 162 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:28.160 hundred and sixty seventh in the kin Pom. So again, 163 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:30.079 that's not like something to brag about for a lot 164 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.519 of programs, but for Bellerman, a team that is still 165 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.560 brand new really to Division one, that's great. So if 166 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:37.120 they end up, you know, and I hope they do, 167 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:39.519 and I believe they will get back to that level, 168 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.000 then it's a different conversation. But as they currently sit 169 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:45.160 in the three hundreds, it's just it's a game that 170 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.759 if in fact coach Kelsey or even another team right like, 171 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:51.600 I'm looking at Bellerman's schedule here this year. They're not 172 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:53.839 as loaded as they as they have been in previous 173 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:56.439 years with the non conference opponents. But in twenty twenty 174 00:07:56.439 --> 00:08:02.040 two they played Perdue, Gonzaga, CLA, West Virginia. You know, 175 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.800 those are teams that maybe now they're looking at Bellermant 176 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:07.759 and saying, yeah, we we we probably are going to 177 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:10.560 pass on that one. I'm not saying that they are. 178 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:12.680 I'm not. I mean, it would make total sense if 179 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:14.639 coach Davenpore doesn't want to go out there and schedule 180 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:16.399 that kind of a start to a season like he 181 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:19.079 did a few years ago. So again, I just if 182 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.240 you're somebody that really does enjoy these games, and you 183 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.319 really love it because you're a Louisville fan, but you 184 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:27.000 graduated from Bellerman or vice versa, enjoy it because you know, 185 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:29.319 it wouldn't shock me if at some point these games 186 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:34.480 this game isn't played. But here's Pat Kelsey yesterday when 187 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:37.559 asked about the future of of this series. 188 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:39.080 Uing in the future. 189 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.159 Yeah, you know, he was first of all one of 190 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:45.919 the first people to call me or text me and 191 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.039 congratulate me, you know, when I got the job here, 192 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:51.960 and it's been good to me over the years. We've 193 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.279 talked x's and o's. You know, Doug I mentioned I 194 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:59.240 worked with he was a GA at Xavier when I 195 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:02.919 was the associate head coach there and ironically when I 196 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:06.440 got my first head coaching job at Winthrop. I hired 197 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:09.080 Doug as my director of basketball operations, and he was 198 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:16.159 on the job for exactly thirty six hours and walked 199 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.080 in and looked like he had seen a ghost. And 200 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:19.840 I said, Doug, what's wrong you ges? Coach, I gotta 201 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.279 talk to you about something. And I said, Doug's what's wrong? 202 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.480 And he goes, I just got a call from coach 203 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:28.200 Patino and or he offered me a job at the 204 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.200 University of Louisville. I said, get your butt out of 205 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:34.720 here right now, don't pass go, don't collect one hundred dollars. 206 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:38.279 So you know, I just have a lot of respect 207 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.080 for Scott and I think it's good for the city. 208 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:44.080 So you know, it is good for the city as 209 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:48.600 far as giving both fan bases an opportunity to, you know, 210 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.960 get together, watch these two teams play, and you know, 211 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.759 like I get it, this is a much more preferable 212 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.679 game around here than other teams in that caliber. And 213 00:09:57.720 --> 00:09:59.840 if that, if that alone is enough to say, hey, 214 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.559 let's you know, if you're gonna play, let's put it 215 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:05.440 this way. If you're gonna play one team, which typically 216 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:07.000 you probably are going to play at least one team 217 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.120 that is in that caliber then make a Bellarman like, 218 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:12.200 I'm fine with that, but you know, Morehead, they're also 219 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:13.840 sort of in that same tier. So if I had 220 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:15.960 to choose between one of the two, I would go 221 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:18.279 Bellerman because of the obvious reason. But you know, I 222 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.080 knew I should have just been a little bit more 223 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:24.600 mindful of making this a talking point because it's probably 224 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:26.600 already you know, people think I'm like, well, you got 225 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:29.799 a good Bellerman, nothing at all, nothing at all. But 226 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:31.679 what I've just tried to emphasize is that this is 227 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:34.639 really something you know, and I know that Bellerman looks 228 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:36.080 at it this way, like this is something that they 229 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.799 probably appreciate that Louisville's willing to add them to their schedule, 230 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:40.320 and I hope that they don't change that, but if 231 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.799 they did, I'll just say that I won't I wouldn't 232 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:45.440 be shocked. Now. As far as what I hope to 233 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.720 see tonight from this team, one, I hope that they win, 234 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.559 and I hope that it's not not close, because you know, 235 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:53.159 you need to be I mean, by the way, real quick, 236 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:56.240 just some numbers here. Louisville opened up at twenty one 237 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:59.799 and a half. As far as being favored they opened 238 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:01.840 up twenty one and a half point favorites as of now, 239 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:03.919 it is now twenty eight and a half. That is 240 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.480 the biggest line movement of any matchup that you have 241 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.960 here in college basketball tonight. So you'd have to win 242 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:13.840 this game by twenty nine points to cover, and I 243 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.000 don't know if they will, but I hope they do, 244 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:19.519 which makes me sound mean because I don't want coach 245 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:23.559 Davenport to get blown out, but you know, that's that's 246 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:26.519 the that's the preference for me tonight is that Louisville 247 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:29.960 wins and they cover, and it's not even really about covering. 248 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:31.480 And by the way, they could win by thirty and 249 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.279 it might it may not actually benefit them when it 250 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.080 comes to the to the formulas out there and the 251 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:40.480 analytics and whatnot. But anyways, as far as what's on 252 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:42.879 the court, you know, I think this is probably going 253 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:45.519 to be a game where you see Pat Kelcey and 254 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:47.919 his team be able to get into what they want 255 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:51.200 to do, because I actually think Bellerman, you know, they're 256 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:52.799 not going to want to have a track meet. That's 257 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:54.960 not really the way they play, but they will, you know, 258 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:58.039 let's take advantage of opportunities that they have to get 259 00:11:58.039 --> 00:11:59.759 some quick threes up if they've got good looks. I mean, 260 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.679 I know coach Chadnbore has always built his team with 261 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:07.320 some guys who can clearly shoot the ball. But I 262 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:11.080 think Louisville will you. I don't know if they're gonna 263 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:12.600 look like they did against Morehead Stay, but what I'm 264 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.360 gonna be interested to see. And Seal Brown touched on 265 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:16.600 this a little bit during our conversation the four o'clock hour. 266 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:23.720 You know, rotations like are you gonna continue to use 267 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:28.799 your bench to where it's not necessarily about Okay, let's 268 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.679 put Cora and Johnson in there because we really want 269 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:34.759 to utilize something he's got in his bag. Or is 270 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:36.919 it going to be based off of your style? Because again, 271 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:39.320 and I'm trying to explain it without sounding like such 272 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.840 a dumbass, but Pat Kelsey at Winthrop and at Charleston 273 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:46.600 and even early on here at Louisville in the exhibition games, 274 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:52.600 in the Morehead Stay game, the success and the results 275 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:57.000 were based more so off of a style of play 276 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:01.720 than any specific player or players. Was not about who 277 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:04.159 you have, it's what you're doing, and look, you can 278 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:05.720 win that way against these kind of teams. And look, 279 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:07.639 you may be able to win that way against a 280 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:09.440 lot of teams when you have a roster that is 281 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.679 built with a little bit more overall talent. And I 282 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.519 don't want to say these guys are talent lists, but 283 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:17.320 Pat went out and was able to get a team 284 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:21.000 that really they fit a role, they fit a need 285 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:23.279 for him to play the specific style that they want 286 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:25.480 to play. But as we saw against Tennessee, you're not 287 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.559 always going to be able to do that against good 288 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:30.559 teams that are, you know, built like Rick Barnes's Tennessee 289 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:32.840 teams are built. Belement is not going to give you 290 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.559 a realistic look that can see if you really did 291 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:38.679 get better when you play those kind of teams like Tennessee. 292 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:42.240 But I will be paying attention to see if maybe 293 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:44.440 the you know, the rotations are a little bit different, 294 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:46.200 right do you do you try to get into some 295 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:50.679 half court sets to you know, to to generate some 296 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:53.039 good looks that aren't just okay, hey we got we 297 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.399 got a good look there from three. It was within 298 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:57.840 rhythm and everybody on the floor for the most part, 299 00:13:57.840 --> 00:13:58.960 has the green light. If we want to have as 300 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:01.480 many possessions as possible, you know, and I wouldn't be 301 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:03.399 shocked if they don't get into that, because they probably 302 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:07.200 won't really need to, but it does give you a 303 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:08.960 chance to kind of work on some stuff, and you'll 304 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:13.879 know that it being effective tonight potentially won't mean for 305 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:15.440 sure that it's going to be effective when you play 306 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:19.120 Indiana or West Virginia or Arizona or Gonzaga next week 307 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:23.720 when you're in the Bahamas, but you know it'll give 308 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:26.600 you a chance to get some repetition at that for 309 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.559 when you do get to the Bahamas and play those teams. 310 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.919 So wouldn't shock me at all if we see a 311 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:35.240 very more head state like performance where they're able to 312 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:36.559 get into what they want to do and they just 313 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:38.919 kind of overtime build a big lead and win it 314 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:41.080 without much trouble at all. And that would be a 315 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:45.480 fine result, because again, what I've accepted is that in 316 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.960 order to kind of feel, in order to get any indication, 317 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:51.080 if the ten day break, and I'm sure they work 318 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.080 their tail off, and I know that Pat Kelsey's the 319 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.000 kind of coach that will utilized that type of a 320 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:00.600 setback and get better from it. In all as, and 321 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:02.240 I think the guys on this team As far as 322 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.279 the personnel, the mature guys you had that you have 323 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:07.440 that played a lot of college basketball, I would imagine 324 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:09.720 they probably have a good mindset because you know, they 325 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:11.480 were humbled. I'm sure they didn't expect to go out 326 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.000 there and lose to Tennessee that the way they did. 327 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.919 So these two games in between Tennessee and the Bahamas, 328 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.360 there's there's opportunity there to get better. But I've just 329 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:22.480 accepted that. As far as me being able to figure 330 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:25.279 out if they really are going to be able to 331 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:28.240 compete better against teams like Tennessee, you won't find that 332 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:30.519 out until next week when they are in when they're 333 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:35.840 in the Bahamas. So I also, you know, I make 334 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:39.639 I'm curious to see if if coach Davenport does want 335 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:43.279 to slow it down, you know one, even though clearly 336 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.120 he's more familiar with Louisville I would imagine than a 337 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:47.159 lot of other teams out there, just because of you know, 338 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:49.320 him being a Louisville guy. I mean, I'm not saying 339 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:51.879 he's he's he's watching games like a fan like like 340 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:54.559 all of us, and not coaching his team and scouting 341 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:57.279 their opponents. But you know, take a little bit out 342 00:15:57.279 --> 00:15:59.799 of it. I know coach Davenport is really good at 343 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:04.240 scouting opponents and being prepared and knowing what your opponent's 344 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.200 about to do out there. So maybe that does give 345 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:12.360 you some opportunities to run some half court sets because 346 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:14.159 they're able to kind of keep you from doing what 347 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:16.919 you want to do. I mean that, you know, I 348 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:18.799 guess that wouldn't be ideal, but then again, it would 349 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.000 give you opportunities to work on some stuff in the 350 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.440 half court to where because I can already tell now 351 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:28.279 like one thing that fans are just gonna start complaining about. 352 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:30.080 I'm not even really being critical of fans, because like 353 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:32.759 I get it. I would just encourage you to accept 354 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.159 it and understand that that's what they're going to do. 355 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.559 But like it started, even in the exhibitions, while we're 356 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:38.799 shooting so many threes, well we keep jacking it up. 357 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.320 Well that's what they want to do. And that's not 358 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:43.759 to say that some of these shots are are not 359 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.279 bad shots, because clearly some of them probably are shots 360 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.120 that you know, Pat Kelsey wishes they would have had 361 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:51.200 a little more movement, maybe a couple more passes within 362 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.799 the possession to get a better look. But they got 363 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:55.879 the green light. They want as many possessions as possible. 364 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:57.679 They're going to space it out. Sometimes they're going to 365 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:00.679 have five guys out on the floor and that's going 366 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:02.399 to lead to a lot of three point shots every 367 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.640 single night. And sometimes they're going to shoot it well 368 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:08.279 and sometimes they're not. Now, they didn't shoot it well 369 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:11.319 against Tennessee, we know that. But they didn't shoot it 370 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.640 well against Morehead State either. I mean, it wasn't as bad, 371 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:16.319 but it wasn't great. But you know what, it didn't 372 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.400 matter because they were able to get into their style 373 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:20.799 and they forced a ton of turnovers. It's, by the way, 374 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.680 they've only played two games, so maybe this number is 375 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.000 a little bit skewed, which it is. It's almost meaningless 376 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:29.000 considering you only have two results to get these numbers from. 377 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:31.880 But Louisville right now forces more turnovers than anybody in 378 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:34.839 the country. So you know what that does is if 379 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:36.799 you have an off shooting night and you're able to 380 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:40.440 turn your teams over and play fast, you can potentially 381 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:42.319 put up a lot of fast break points. That's why 382 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:44.880 you probably didn't notice that they shot it as poorly 383 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:46.559 as they did against Morehead State because they were able 384 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.200 to turn all of Morehead State's turnovers into I think 385 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.720 it was thirty one points off turnovers. So that's the 386 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:53.759 recipe that you wont I think that Morehead stay game 387 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.960 is to a t the way he wants his teams 388 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.480 to play maybe a little bit better on the backboard. Clearly, 389 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:03.880 I think he wants them to make more the reason 390 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.000 they did, and he knows that they can. But as 391 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:10.279 far as stylistically, that is what they want to do. 392 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:12.720 But you're clearly not going to be able to do 393 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:15.640 that against certain teams. And again we won't be able 394 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:19.359 to see how they I want to say get better, 395 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:21.559 but like I mean, I want to see a different plan. 396 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:23.680 Not to say you abandon who you are and you 397 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:26.960 try to create a new identity. That wouldn't make any sense, 398 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:28.720 but you got to be able to go to something 399 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:32.440 different whenever you have kind of lost the battle as 400 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:35.440 far as the style of play. All right, let's do this. 401 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:36.799