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Speaker 1: Now it's time for Tensions that were Running High a

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Penrith Panthers podcast presented by The Western Weekender thanks to

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Penrith Toyota. Here's at Troy Dodds and Nathan Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome to Tensions Running High at Penrith

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Panthers podcast presented by the Western Weekender. This is episode

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sixty two. I'm Troy Dodds and I'm joined by Nathan Taylor.

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Hello Nathan, Hello Troy. We are the voice of rugby

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league in Penrith and we love talking everything about Penrith Panthers.

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For thirty five years, the Western Weekender has led the

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way in Panthers coverage here in Penrith. We've covered six premierships,

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the biggest breaking stories and interviewed CEOs, coaches, chairman players.

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who do it best. On the agenda. Today, the Panthers

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head north to take on the Cowboys. Members ready to

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vote and how did Nathan Cleary get caught up in

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the headline this week? Nathan first of all, big thanks

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to Garth and the team over at Paris City Automotive.

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They're back on deck for another year of tensions running.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great news. You know, it's always good to

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have quality local sponsors on board and Garth, Garth's back,

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and I'm really happy to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Joy. Yeah, if you want to go get a car

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any to anyone out there, make sure you go see

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They'll look after you. I was gonna say new used

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or stolen, but no stolen cars over there at Penis

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City Automotive. Don't worry about that. All right, Well, let's

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begin the show because Nathan, the Panthers are finally in

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action this weekend, the second round of the preseason Challenge

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aoys around this time of year, I'm not that excited

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or you know what. I am excited, but I'm not

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ready for footy yet. Yeah, but it's this Friday night

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and I'm looking at the other Cowboys, Panthers eight o'clock

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at the bb Print Stadium in Mackay. And of course

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this is the Cowboys last hit out before they go

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to Vegas. The Panthers first hit out of the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be fascinated to see how how the Panthers

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actually fly up to McKay actually, because obviously it's not

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going to be an easy flight unless they've got some

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sort of a direct flight through Rexel or Quantus Link

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or whatever regional airline there is, it must be hard

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to get to so who knows if they have to

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stop in Brisbane and get another flight. I'm not sure.

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I don't know those details. But yeah, obviously some trial

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games are getting taken out to some regional areas, so yeah,

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Mackay is getting one this time around. Look the Cowboys,

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we saw them last week. I expect them to probably

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name it even stronger side for this Panthers clash. But

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we're still a waiting. We're recording this now on a

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Tuesday afternoon. We're still waiting for these team lists to

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be revealed.

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Speaker 2: Can I have them right, have them already front of me?

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Come out? But yes, we are recording this on that

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Tuesday afternoon right when they drop. And let me tell you,

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it is a pretty good looking Cowboys team, how Penrith

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team that has a lot of players that we could

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be excited about seeing. But you may not have heard

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of because the Cowboys obviously, as we mentioned, this is

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their final hitout, so they have gone hard with Scot

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drink Water at full back, Brandon Burns and Murray to

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Langey on the wings, Jackson Perdu and Zach Laibat in

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the centers, Jake Clifford, Tom Didn't in the harms. And

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this is almost a full strength Cowboys stream a pact.

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That's Cohen hairst Reed, Marney, Jason Talmalolo Helam Luky, Sam McIntyre,

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Ruben Cotter Sonny Luke on the bench of course, the.

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Speaker 3: Former Panther who has gone the.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys, Matt Lodge on the bench for the Cowboys, and

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also John Bateman as well is of course got around

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John Bateman. Now this Penrith team, it's looking very very well.

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I guess you'd say a reserve grade type team, no

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doubt about that. Jackson Edgar at fullback, Jesse McLean and

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Nick Murphy on the wings, Patrick moy moy s, only

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Fanua in the centers. A Harvest combination of Kian Skips

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Speaker 3: Falls his back.

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Speaker 2: Yes after a number of years, uh Dela Yeah, Wigmore,

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I've never heard of Wigmore with Toby Crosby. There's been

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a lot of talk in the off season to see

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him about Toby Crosby, Billy Scott at hooker, Zachary Clark

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and Khalaney going in the second row, Billy Phillips he

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is at Locke, and then a bench that looks like Jensen, Toy,

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Jacob Valilo. They are Tapa and Nui Tapa.

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Speaker 3: Very impressive.

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Speaker 2: Troy. Yeah, and Harry Armstrong got that one right. I

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will say my apologies to those players that we got wrong,

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but this is the first time we're dealing with a

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lot of these names. Well, we'll get the bright as

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the year goes on, but yet that is obviously a

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very under strength Penroth team. And Nathan, you've got the

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team there. Would you mind just telling us the number

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eighteen of Panthers.

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Speaker 3: That's Tour Pataya. That's the brother of Aluron Troy.

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Speaker 2: Right, I see, and you've gone with just Tour, but

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I can see the name is spelled.

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Speaker 3: Oh well on the p this team less Troy, it's

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actually just Tour. So you add at what list you're

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Speaker 2: Looking looking dot com at this website and as you

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can see that, ah.

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Speaker 3: Let's see I'm looking at on the Panthers app they've

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got it as Tour Pataya. So you tried to trip

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me up there, but I'm reading the right.

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Speaker 2: They've got the dummies version on the on the on

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the the full website here, and look, let me tell

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you this. Obviously there's no interchange sort of limits. Try

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big bench. As you go down this big bench, they

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probably need an eight three eighty to get to the

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guy because you've got people like Army Lazza, Josh Ruxton

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having to go. Samuel Curtin, Tyson Sangeralydiard is the one.

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Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, that's obviously Glen Lydiard's youngest son who

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plays rugby league and he's quite good. He's it was

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one of their best players in the in the lower

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grades last year, so he's sort of getting some a

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taste of higher levels, which is which is cool to see.

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Speaker 2: Bray Porter. Have you got any asterisk with bray Porter

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on your list? I've got ass tricks for.

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Speaker 3: Break, just break, he's got a trick.

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Speaker 2: He's got an as Trix next to his name. First

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and last. I'm not sure what's happening there. And look,

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you know you normally tell the strength of these squads,

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by the fact that the Panthers and an url websites

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does not have photos for about well probably about seventy

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percent of the Penrith team there. So look, we did

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expect this. The Panthers will field a much stronger team

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against the West Tigers at Leichhart Oval next Friday night.

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But but yeah, look, you would expect the Cowboys to

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win this.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to win well and no offense

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to Penrith, but they can at least put fifty on them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's that kind of game. I think. Look,

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you know, this is just a hit out for some

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of these Panthers boys, for Ivan Cleary to see some

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of the depth that he's obviously brought to the club.

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And for the Cowboys it is their big fan.

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Speaker 3: Their big final next week against the Tigers. Expect your

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Nathan Cleary is you're dealing Edwards, Brian Toast or play

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just like Jerome LOOI will be playing for the Tigers.

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I'm sure that'll be the big final hitout. So that's

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the one you want to keep your iron. I think

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this is more of a fun a fun match to

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just see some some new talent. That's arrived at the club.

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, absolutely, all right, Well, it's eight o'clock

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on Friday nights. Friday Night footy is.

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Speaker 3: No early Valentine's Day dinner for you and your partner.

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Speaker 2: Straight Straight Fox League and who will be broadcasting at

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the game from bb Print Stadium, So make sure you

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tune in for that Panthers Cowboys on Friday night. Now,

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just to take you through by the way, because obviously

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we've got some other or plenty of other preseason matches

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and the Witser cuppas I think it's cooled. Yep, happening.

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You know what Witser is yet, Nope, we'll get onto that,

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find out what wits to do.

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Speaker 3: I'll do that now while you the best.

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Speaker 2: Ship given that we don't know what they do. Because

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we've got Vegas coming up in a couple of weeks.

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But Thursday night we've got Thursday Night football back from

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KO Stadium in Redcliffe with the Dolphins of the Titans.

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Then that Friday we've got a double header because we've

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got the Raider taking on the Storm at five point thirty,

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followed by the Penrith game. And then Saturday it is

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a super super Saturday Warriors Siege was at one, Tiger's

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Roosters at three fifty nights, Bulldogs at six o'clock, Dragons

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Rabbit O's at eight ten pm. That's the Charity Shield

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happening in Wollongong this year and Shark's Eels at Henson Park.

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So that's what's happening this weekend. And of course we've

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got the All Stars happening as well on.

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Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon, which I care. We usually have it on

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that Saturday night, but because it's over in New Zealand,

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looks like we're having it on a different day, which

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is interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about you, and I know that

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probably Look, people have Mari heritage, indiditious heritage, are really

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into this game, which is great because that's that's a

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huge part of rugby. Le Like, I just can't get

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excited about the All Star It's been a long time

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since I've been excited about the All Stars. Well, I

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think a few people have now suggested too that maybe

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it's the next thing to go off the calendar.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's been a while since you've had all the

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big names sort of involved in the All Stars clash.

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whether they're you know, they want to focus on their

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club footy or they're they're they're just not quite ready

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to play in the All Stars match. But for Penrith,

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we've only got one representative and that's Casey McLean, who

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will be representing the Mary team on Sunday. But apart

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from that, that's the only player really you can sort

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of look out for as a Panthers fan. But yeah,

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I get what you're saying, Troy, and those first few

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years were really exciting. You had your your JTS English's you,

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Wendell Sailor played I think in the first All Star

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like there were some big names over the years. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to come up with a different concert.

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team of players who've who retired from last season. Yeah,

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up against don't you know, probably up against Papa New

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Guinea at the moment. Get out for them when they

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I think there will be a reshaping of the Rugby

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League calendar from twenty twenty seven. I don't know when

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we'll start to hear about that. I reckon the new

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TV deal will get done, and unless there is a

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change from nine and Fox, whatever the new makeup is

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of nine and Fox, I would suggest that they would

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just jump straight into that from twenty seven, even though

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for AA next year obviously that'll be different. If a

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streamer is somehow picked up a game from twenty twenty eight,

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then you know they're going to have to do I

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don't know what the current deal is with the extra game,

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if it's just written in the contract that hey, if

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you throw in an extra team Fox, just get it tonight. Yeah,

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don't know, because there is an extra game every week

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from next year there will be, Yeah, so we don't

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even know when they're going to play that.

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Speaker 3: You have to imagine there's going to be a Sunday

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night game just with the Bears involved, and I can

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see them playing a lot of maybe Sunday Night pictures potentially.

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I'm not sure, but I don't know what would be

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good for a team that travels like say Penrith for instance,

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what the Sunday night slot is not going

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to be great in those So I guess you're going

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to try and get out of Perth and so there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you could play at six and then there late.

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or Friday.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't play for Thursday. But please, I mean.

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Speaker 3: You could play the Friday. So they get in Monday morning,

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they have Tuesday off to recover. They've pretty much got

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one one session.

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Speaker 2: Look, they're catching a plane. They're not they're not running

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a marathon. However, you know, they're just but.

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Speaker 3: They're so precious, these players.

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Speaker 2: The please, we're just catching a plane and having a

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you know, an orange juice and a muffin on the

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flight and having a sleep.

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Speaker 3: And what's a flight to Pop New Guinea? How long

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does that take?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm not sure. I'm not sure they stand by

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time for Papua New Guinea. But yeah, that's going to

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come into the mix as well. And this is where

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the NRL is obviously going to face some difficulties now

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in going to these far funk places like Perth and

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Papa New Yi. Yeah is the yeah, the turnaround times

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like we might need to call those Canadians again to

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do the draw because this is you know, it's going

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to be tough for chat GPT to work out.

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Speaker 3: Four hours and seven minutes Troy from Sydney to PNNG.

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So rather go to Perth it's about the same to Perth.

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Speaker 2: I think I thought it was Perth is about five

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or six hours.

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Speaker 3: Let's have a look Sydney the Perth flight. Sorry, folks,

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this is on the running five hours to person.

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Speaker 2: What about Western Sydney Do Perth might be able to

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do that?

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Speaker 3: I don't think they have those the data in tro

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but WITSA, by the way, is a digital platform for

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the building and trade industry.

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Speaker 2: Great, what a sponsors.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they're getting lots of publicity from that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, well yeah, look so there will be

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some changes in the press season Rugby League.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be hard for the NR world to

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cut the All Stars match though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look I know what you're saying, because.

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Speaker 3: Yah, for optics optics reasons, it's going to be hard

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for them to get rid of it.

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Speaker 2: But what we may see, and we'll have to wait

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and see how this all plays out, is if we

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cut from twenty seven rounds and there seems to be

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a push for that to happen. Now, i'd sound the

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alarm to Peter Milandi's and Andrew Abdo over that, because

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I think when you've got such a strong club competition,

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to pull that back to throw in other staff is risky.

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But anyway, there seems to be pushed for that, So

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I wouldn't be surprised if you start to see matches

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like that brought into the middle of the season. That

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might be better option.

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Speaker 3: You might have more players available to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but how that actually helps when it comes to

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player workload or whatnot. I have no idea, because you've

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still got a bunch of players, the best players who

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are essentially playing more games, which is the same complaint

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we have now. So I don't get it, but will

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fix this somehow, And as I say, I reckon there'll

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be a new TV deal that will happen and then

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be in place from twenty seven because at the end

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of the day, the one thing the NFL has up

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their sleeves right now, depending on the fine print of

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the contract that Peter Blandy's negotiated is that they have

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an extra game next year. Yeah, so surely Fox nine

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or nine don't just get that game for free. So

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it's either put into their deal somehow, or if it's

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not in their deal, then it's it's up for grabs. Ye,

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So there you go.

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Speaker 3: So what happens all right now?

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Speaker 2: I just want to remind everyone too. We talked about

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this a little bit last week. The Panthers board election

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is on this weekend, so they're all setting up over there,

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the democracy sausage sizzle, the voting lines. This won't be

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happening because in reality only a few hundred people vote,

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but we feel it's our job because the candidates can't speak,

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or the current board can't speak, which is a silly rule.

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We talked about last week to let everyone know. So

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get there on Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday. There are

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set times, yes, I.

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Speaker 3: Think on the Monday it's between ten and twelve. It's

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two hours on the Monday, so your best if your

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best chances are to go on the Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

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it's pretty much the whole day available.

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Speaker 2: Avoid the queue.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you'll avoid the queue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, it's look, it is an important thing

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to do. At the end of the day. The board

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is running the show at Panthers and in the NRL.

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So if you think they're doing a good job, you

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might want to retain the board, or you might think

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that some of those new faces the way to go.

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But yeah, all the current board members are going up

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for reelection. Trisha Hitchen doesn't need to as an independent appointee,

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and then we've got Peter Lang, Vic Shipley and Alan

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Harding going for a go as well. So make sure

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you get over there and vote.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be down there.

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Speaker 2: I'm going on Valentine's Day. Oh perfect, All right now, Nathan,

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one thing I did want to do is have a

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chat and take you through the timeline of Nathan Cleary

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somehow getting himself into the headlines this week in relation

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to an arrest that took place in Penis on Friday. So, Nathan,

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I thought I'd provide a little bit of inside baseball

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for people, but just to give everyone a bit of

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a timeline as to how this all played out. So

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last Thursday night, I was at a dinner with a

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group of people and words started to get around that

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there had been a significant arrest on Ladbury Avenue in

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Penrith earlier that day. Now, without being disparaging to any

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other part of Penrith and a restaurant a street like

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that probably raises some eyebrows. It's a pretty affluent part

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of town, right near the p and Avenue there, not

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where we normally see this stuff kind of kind of

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go down. So I lodge an inquiry with New South

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Wales Police that night, which is the usual process when

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we hear there's been some sort of police activity some

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of my messages or let us know and we'll have

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a look at that. Now. They came back to me

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that night and said that they wouldn't be able to

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come back to me until the next day. Now that's unusual.

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Normally they would provide what they call a holding statement,

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which is sort of the basic details of what's happened.

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But obviously it was because there was strike force involved

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and it was part of a wider investigation. So fast

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forward to nine ten am on Friday, police a statement

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confirming that under strike force to Reno they've arrested a

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twenty eight year old man in Penrith. The previous day.

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The release detail that officers had seized cocaine, testosterone, a

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glock style gel blaster, pistol electronics, two kilos of lidocaine,

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which is believed to be used in the manufacture of cocaine,

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and they said they've charged the twenty eight year old

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with fifteen offences. Now by this stage we'd become aware

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that the twenty eight year old in question was Reese Earia.

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Now the twist comes in here in that Reese is

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a friend of Nathan Clearing, and Nathan Cleary is the

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owner of the property that was rated by police. Reese

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Aria is his tenant. Now it is important to say

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here absolutely no suggestion that Nathan Cleary has committed any

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wrongdoing or any knowledge of Reese's illegal activity or alleged

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to legal activity. Also important to note that Reese is

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of course still going through the courts, and we can't

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comment on the actual case further other than the facts

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we've laid out so far. The court process, of course,

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will play out there. Now. The interesting part about this

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is that on Friday morning, we made an editorial decision

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to publish the story but not to include the Cleary element.

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To me that didn't feel like the story that isn't

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Nathan's fault that he happens to be friends with the

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man arrested. But look, by the time the end of

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Friday had rolled around the Daily Telegraph, Channel nine other

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media outlets at court wind of the story. Rice Aia

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had also previously been linked with Nathan Cleary before. He

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was amongst that group of friends who snuck across the

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border in twenty twenty one to watch the Grand Final

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at Suncourt Stadium during the COVID lockdown. Now riece Aria

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was denied bail on Friday, which mean he was set

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to miss his wedding in Sydney on Saturday. However, a

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Supreme Court hearing on Saturday morning saw him release to

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attend his nuptils. So quite an extraordinary situation. Now the

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wedding went ahead and Nathan Cleary was a guest. I indeed,

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he was not the only member of the Cleary family

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there in d Clear Nathan's sister was in attendance. I'm

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not sure about other members of the family. There was

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also some other Panthers in attendance, which Kenny as well.

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Not surprisingly, there was a few grainy photos showing Nathan

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Cleary at the wedding, which from the vision we've seen,

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was a wonderful celebration despite the cloud hanging over it. Now,

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I guess I'm just saying all of that because at

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the end of the day, I feel a bit sorry

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for Nathan getting dragged into the story. But on the

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same token, I almost say, like him going to the

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wedding kind of reinserted himself in the story and the

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fact that it was going to get attention. But look,

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for those who sort of have just been on the

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sidelines of this story, that's the deal. And look, I

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will say, the only thing I will say is that

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I and look, obviously I'm a bit torn here because

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standing by your mates is what you do, and Nathan's

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had to do this a couple of times. He's his

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good friend Tyro and May went through police action and

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now his friend recent the area with some alleged actually

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some alleged crimes that he's facing. So his look, he's

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found some troubled friends at times, it would seem. And look,

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the only thing I'll say, without any other comedies that geez,

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I just hope that that Nathan's aware that unfortunately his

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high profile and what not means you've probably got to

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you know, you've probably got to pick your friends carefully

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and you've got to pick the ones just stick by.

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If Nathan wants to stick by his mates here, then

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then good on him. But sometimes it's a bit of

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a worry. You just don't want to get caught up

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in stuff that you know, indirectly you end up getting

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sort of in trouble for you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we know what the media landscape is like,

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especially the rugby league media. You know, they I think

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so far they've been quite kind to Nathan. You know,

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they haven't suggested he's involved in any of it or

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new any of it, you know. But yeah, I guess

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just as you know, I'll say it as a Panthers

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Ben Now, it just looked a bit it looked a

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bit funny just seeing seeing some of those guys you

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know at you know, at the wedding and following day.

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I know, yeah, we probably would have done the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the typical thing I think in a perfect

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pr corporate world. Yeah, you say to the guys, hey,

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guys like I reckon, don't go because the camera is

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going to be there. It's just going to carry off

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but then as you say that your mate.

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Speaker 3: Mate's tricky, that's the tricky part to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough one. But look, no, look there's

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there is no story here as far as Nathan Cleary

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is concerned. It's just that. And I don't even know

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if if it's Nathan's friend just friend. I don't even

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know if it actually hits the headline.

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Speaker 3: Probably does.

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Speaker 2: The fact that Nathan owns the property that the Reese

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was renting is probably the thing that sparked most of

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the attention.

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Speaker 3: And who knows whether Channel I would have been at

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the wedding the next day getting long lens footage, you know,

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if they didn't think, you know, some high profile people

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would also go to it.

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Speaker 2: It was, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a very fascinating story how it all played out,

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because I remember, you know, we sort of got wind

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of it early on Friday, and then it all sort

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of played out, played out, you know, to the evening

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when we found out he was, you know, knocking about

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his wedding. And then the next day on the six

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pm news and we find out that he was at

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the wedding, and yeah, crazy, crazy turn of events. But

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who knows what happens from here.

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Speaker 2: And look, you know, as I said before, like you know,

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at the end of the day, you stick, you stick

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by your mates and whatever it is. Hoped that and

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I'm not talking about this specific person or whatever else.

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I just hope that Nathan make sure that the people

473
00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:30,319
are saying around with in the future or in his

474
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,680
best interests. I guess, yeah, moving forward. But but you

475
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,839
know you've had obviously you've got your mates that you've

476
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,200
had prior to your getting your status.

477
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: I believe went to some dominic's with Nat like you know,

478
00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:44,839
they'll be friends for for a very long time. And

479
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,720
you think if you know one of your friends best

480
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,640
you're in his groom's party. I believe it's part of

481
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,279
his vital party. Yeah, yeah, and you just feel like,

482
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,200
you know, you would support your mate, and you don't

483
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,720
care what anyone else thinks. Innocent to proven guilty, probably

484
00:22:59,759 --> 00:23:02,039
probably thinking in his mind, you know.

485
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that in all cases like this there's

486
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,519
some nuance and some you know, some stuff that they

487
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:12,079
would know or you know, they're obviously spoken to Reese

488
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,359
about it and whatnot. So anyway, it is what it is.

489
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,160
There's the story for you, though, if you've been on

490
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,319
the sidelines of that wondering what's going on, and the

491
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,559
court process will play out there, and unfortunately for Nathan,

492
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,359
I think every time that he fronts court during this

493
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,480
process is going to be Nathan Cleary's friend is hitting court.

494
00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:32,079
But there's not much we can do about that. Look,

495
00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:34,920
and I don't I mentioned before we took an editorial decision.

496
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,400
I'm not saying that nine and the Daily Telegraph and

497
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,839
whatever else shouldn't have but I can absolutely see how

498
00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:42,759
they got there. Oh yeah, you know how they got

499
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:45,519
to like make that decision that actually this is too linked,

500
00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,240
you know, like we have to we have to mention this.

501
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,759
I know that there would probably be people, maybe even Nathan,

502
00:23:50,759 --> 00:23:53,640
to say that's that's a really unfair to bring my

503
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,720
name into it. But this is what comes with that.

504
00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: You know, Nathan's smart enough to know that that's that's

505
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,960
a territory. He's been in his enter player for ten

506
00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,119
years now. He said, he's one of he's probably the

507
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,680
most high profile player's relationships played out in front of

508
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,000
the cameras for the last three years. Anything he does

509
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,359
with Mary Fowler is photographed or documented, so he knows

510
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,400
the position he is in this in this landscape.

511
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he's just done a podcast with

512
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,079
Josh Mansil too which he addresses some of those challenges

513
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,680
around around the media in rugby league. And look, it's

514
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,319
always a challenge to deal with some of the metro

515
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,920
news organizations.

516
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:32,799
Speaker 3: It comes with the territory, you know, like any celebrity

517
00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:35,519
in the world, whether you're a musician or a Hollywood actor,

518
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,319
that's that's that's it. That's the celebrity life.

519
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:44,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nathan's right to choose his own friends. But let's

520
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:47,400
just take his choosing right, I guess for him. Anyway,

521
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:51,000
moving on and look at a topic I wanted to

522
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,720
bring up today. You know, if you if we think

523
00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:57,200
back to the nineties, Nathan, when we were watching footy

524
00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:59,839
and you're watching players, you know, like ya, Steve and

525
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:04,440
I and your greeg Alexander's and your Trevor gilmisters go around,

526
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,480
and I think about it, and I'm thinking, I can't

527
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,240
imagine you know, Trevor gilmister or Fatty or someone like

528
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:13,000
that making making a political comment, you know, declaring you know,

529
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000
who should win the election or whatnot. But it has

530
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:19,119
become the thing now, maybe thanks to social media, but

531
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,960
we saw it, We see it at awards ceremony and

532
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:28,319
everything like that, that sports people and celebrities now make

533
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:33,920
political statements quite often, And I wanted to get your

534
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,079
take on whether you think you're comfortable with sports stars

535
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,000
and celebrities giving us their take on that stuff. Are

536
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,240
you happy that they get involved in these things or

537
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,279
does it make you uncomfortable? Does it does it make

538
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:49,599
you like them less? Sometimes?

539
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's very very interesting, probably a combination of

540
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,359
all three, Troy. I think, you know, the celebrities and

541
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,079
a listers and famous people and rich people that they

542
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,119
live in a different bubble to the rest of us,

543
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,119
you know, to the to the normal folk. So it's

544
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,920
a bit it's a bit hard to take when they're

545
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:12,759
they're spooking something or they're promoting something political or whatever

546
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:15,160
it is, and when they haven't really lived in the

547
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,079
real world for a long time, they don't know what

548
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,799
it's like, so that that is hard to take. And

549
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:23,000
there are a lot of celebrities out there or sports

550
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,599
people that probably do think a little bit differently to

551
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:28,319
I think, does it make me less of a fan

552
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,200
of them? No, not necessarily, but it's just yeah, it

553
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:36,599
is it is. It is weird. Though it is weird.

554
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,279
Speaker 2: Well, the reason I think it's sometimes weird, it makes

555
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:43,480
me uncomfortable as well is that they and it is

556
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:47,160
fine to have an opinion, Yeah, absolutely, but what is

557
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,559
that opinion actually based on? I mean, you know, if

558
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,799
you're a celebrity or a sports person, you're a singer,

559
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:54,480
you're an actor, Like, what is your actual knowledge of

560
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,039
the situation?

561
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 3: Your knowledge of it?

562
00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like how much research have you actually done?

563
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,039
You spoken to people on the other side, And I

564
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:05,440
think it's different to just to average Joe blow at

565
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,640
the pub having a say, because you're speaking to millions

566
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,319
of people and you're potentially influencing millions of people, and

567
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,359
sometimes I just it really doesn't make me uncomfortable. And

568
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,359
mainly for that reason that you mentioned, I think that

569
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,559
they're living in a bubble, you know. You know, I

570
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:24,680
think American actors are probably at the highlight of it,

571
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,839
living in gated communities and big mansions in LA and

572
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:30,200
lecturing everyone else on climate change.

573
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,319
Speaker 3: And Billie Eilish said the other day in her Grammary

574
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:39,640
speech that's been ridiculed, yes by nearly everyone, but you

575
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,440
know that was silly. What she said, but again she

576
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:47,839
just some of these celebrities just don't know what they're

577
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,359
saying sometimes and they get called out on it.

578
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: And I think it's different now because of the viral

579
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,920
nature of stuff, because of course, if you go back

580
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,440
in time, you'll find celebrities who stood up for issues

581
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,160
and whatever else through the seventies and particular and whatnot.

582
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,640
That that's it's not that it's new necessarily. I think

583
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,880
it's relatively new to sport. I don't like, particularly in Australia,

584
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,319
like I don't As I said, I don't feel that

585
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,960
my thoughts on a sports person in the nineties or

586
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,000
the early two thousands was ever political or anything like that.

587
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,200
That just wasn't what they talked about now, both posting

588
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,960
like we see it in a pantherm in Mitch Kenny.

589
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,759
Mitch Kenny has some very strong opinions on a couple

590
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,920
of sub checks he does, and he's right to have

591
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,200
those opinions. I just I just don't understand sometimes. I

592
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,079
guess what I'm saying is I don't understand how a

593
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:41,759
twenty something year old football are living in Pederth really

594
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,079
has the grasp of that situation sometimes.

595
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not a lot of not a lot of

596
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,960
players probably do. They probably don't really buy into it

597
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,319
as much. And we know Mitch and we know obviously

598
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,160
is at Tung or you know, they both attended a

599
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,000
protest last year and they were the old photographed there

600
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:01,279
and that's fine, They're allowed to do that. You wonder,

601
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:04,480
you know, you just wonder. You know, it's fine, you're

602
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:08,440
allowed to you're allowed to have those beliefs. But it's

603
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,920
just all I can see why it makes people feel uncomfortable,

604
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,160
especially if you don't think they're educated enough, or you know,

605
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,160
other people have different opinions too, you know, if I

606
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,240
like a certain political party or I follow a certain

607
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,559
way of thinking, are they going to be nice to

608
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:25,119
me or are they going to not want to talk

609
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,359
to me?

610
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: I think this is almost like like what it really

611
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,039
comes down to as well, is celebrities sometimes not realizing

612
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,160
that their base, their supporter base, is made up of

613
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,119
people from all these different different sides of the equation.

614
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,759
And I think sometimes people forget about that. Sometimes. It's

615
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:45,440
just like if you own a business, you own a

616
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,680
business in Penrith right now, you'd be pretty stupid when

617
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,279
it comes to say a state election to put your

618
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:55,400
stake in the ground and say I am a supporter

619
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,960
of this party. Of course, Penrith is pretty much split

620
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,319
down the middle state election. Why it's fifteen fifty. Why

621
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:02,880
would you alienate fifty percent of your business customers? You

622
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,559
wouldn't do it, But individuals don't sort of think like that,

623
00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:09,160
but they probably should, because you're alienating fifty percent of

624
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,440
your or a percentage of your people who follow you,

625
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,440
who would maybe normally just say hey, you're a great

626
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,480
I love your music or whatever else. Now they've kind

627
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,880
of got all the political junk with it, and I

628
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,359
kind of social media makes it worse for me because

629
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:26,039
sometimes I love an actor, yeah, and I follow them

630
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:28,599
on social media and they'll go on a rant about something.

631
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,240
It doesn't make me not like them less as a person,

632
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,799
but it actually makes me go, I'm not that much

633
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:33,960
of a fan. You know.

634
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: It does make you think of it differently, and you

635
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,839
can take that for organizations too, like for example and

636
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,559
the NRL and sporting clubs. I mean, Australia Day come

637
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:45,880
and went a few weeks ago, but still it's been

638
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,799
the years now, but there's still no acknowledgment of Australia Day,

639
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:53,119
when we've seen in society that that's all turning around

640
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:56,960
now a lot of people are, you know, supporting Australia

641
00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:00,240
Day again and more people are sort of jumping on

642
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,000
on that and that that movement that was there a

643
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,160
few years ago of people being into Australia Day sort

644
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,519
of subsiding a little bit. But the sporting organizations that

645
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:12,119
these players work for, and we know, we know why

646
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,119
they you know, they're out of respect for Indigenous people

647
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,000
in their club and whatnot. But it's it's it's bigger

648
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:20,000
than we think, you know.

649
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes the sporting club is putting out statements that

650
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,839
they do when they say, oh, we acknowledge today is

651
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:26,839
a difficult day and all of that. That's their that's

652
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,400
their statement. But why do they also have in that

653
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,880
statement we also acknowledge that people want to celebrate our

654
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,319
great country today. You know that it always has to

655
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:39,200
be we must address the negative arguments. Trust to this.

656
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:41,839
We can't jump on and accept that people support the

657
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,440
positive sign as well. You know that that is Yeah, organizations. Look,

658
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,480
I think we've we've dealt with this for a while

659
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,759
about the you know, I'm gonna sound like I'm on

660
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:52,240
talk back radio or something. But the woke ism attached

661
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,039
to corporate Australia. Yeah, no company needs to have a stand.

662
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:00,440
A company which is not a living, breathing not need

663
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,920
to have a stance on a political, social or ethical issue.

664
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,440
It honestly does not unless it is directly involved in it.

665
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,640
If you're an oil company, you need to have a

666
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,799
stance on you know, pollution or whatever it is. But

667
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:13,480
if you are, if you're just Tarby Norman, you don't

668
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,160
need a stance exactly.

669
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: And just for an example, you know, if someone someone,

670
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,000
please correct me if I'm wrong. But during the BONDI

671
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:23,440
attacks back in December, and I think I pointed out

672
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,240
to you there were there were a lot of sporting

673
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,960
clubs that put out a post or a message the

674
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,400
next day or a few days later, you know, condemn

675
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,759
me the attacks and whatnot. But there there was there

676
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:38,400
was one club, Penrith. They didn't put anything out. I'm

677
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,920
not sure whose decision that was.

678
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,799
Speaker 2: Or if it was just everyone was on holidays, on holidays.

679
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:46,839
Speaker 3: But every other Western Sydney club put something out and

680
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,200
pretty much nearly I showed you Troy, nearly every NRL

681
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,359
club put something out too, Apart from maybe another one

682
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,440
as well. You know, is that coming from a boss.

683
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,519
It's certainly not coming from the person that runs a

684
00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:58,799
social media Yeah.

685
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I'm not sure or on.

686
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,119
Speaker 3: But it's just it's it's just interesting, you know, just

687
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:06,119
how what I'm trying to say is how politics or

688
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,519
the things that are going on the world, bigger things

689
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,000
that are happening overseas, and how they can sort of

690
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,960
you know, get ingrained in this sort of in our

691
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:15,319
level of society.

692
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,799
Speaker 2: You know, It's just it's interesting because I obviously I

693
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:22,839
follow country music. They're very const and most country artists

694
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:27,160
are conservative. But this is it's actually relatively new, even

695
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,559
in the country landscape for that to be. So this is,

696
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,400
I guess talking about the opposite side now, you know.

697
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,680
It's we're talking about how the often on the on

698
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,559
that left sort of side of politics, they're vocal about it.

699
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,640
I think country had traditionally been no, no, we everyone

700
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:46,240
kind of knows. Let's just not get into that space

701
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:50,319
because as I said before, we our music goes to everyone,

702
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,079
and our music goes to someone who is you know,

703
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,240
on the on on the left of politics and as

704
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,200
well as on the conservative side. But now you are

705
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:02,039
seeing those artists being much more vocal, and even the

706
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:05,359
other way makes me uncomfortable. I don't need to see that.

707
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,840
I don't need to know who this particular country artist

708
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,760
is voting for because I don't necessarily respect their political opinion.

709
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,199
I would, you know, if they have an opinion on

710
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,719
who should win a Grammy, I'm probably more likely to listen.

711
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,159
Speaker 3: And a lot of people are waking up to that too, Like,

712
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,000
you know, people that Kamala Harris tried to get to

713
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,039
endorse her, you know, during her election campaign a few

714
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,599
years ago. Like people just didn't buy into it. She

715
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,679
had a lot of celebrities that were endorsing her, and

716
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,719
they thought, oh, they get the celebrity vote. You know,

717
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,760
this will work for me. But it doesn't work it

718
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,360
these days because the celebrities, again to the point we

719
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,760
made earlier, they don't live.

720
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: In this bubble, no, And I think their influence is

721
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:47,960
bad in that regard. If you look at someone like

722
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,519
like Taylor Swift probably has the biggest voice in the world,

723
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,679
Harris and can't work it, can't sort of swing the dial,

724
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,400
you know, like it, so we'll move the dial. It's

725
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,000
a yeah, it's really it's really interesting and as I know,

726
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:04,039
they're jokes and whatever else a lot of the time.

727
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:07,760
But we we talk about sometimes celebrities who who might

728
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,679
be real climate change activists and yet are some of

729
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:15,119
the biggest individual polluters that you would find jets or

730
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:17,199
the way they travel around or you know, all of

731
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,920
these sort of things. So it's, yeah, it's it's it's

732
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,440
pretty funny in some instances. But but yeah, look an

733
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,519
interesting discussion point, but it.

734
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,119
Speaker 3: Is, and it's a hard one to talk about, Troy.

735
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,199
You know, both of us are screaming in our chairs

736
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,119
at times because we don't want to say anything wrong

737
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:32,920
because this is the climate we live in.

738
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:36,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and this is not offending. It's actually not

739
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:39,119
intending to offend anyone, any individual. Even when we talk

740
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:43,000
about Mitch is as go for your life, Mitch, like go, go,

741
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:45,159
be as political as you want to. I'm just intrigued

742
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:48,360
that players want to do that. I just feel like it. Yeah,

743
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,360
and almost many.

744
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:53,159
Speaker 3: People like Mitch out there, though I'm not going to point,

745
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,519
you know, fingers at other players, but Mitch is rare,

746
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,159
especially in the NRL landscape, to have a say, to

747
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239
speak up about bigger issues.

748
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: And some would argue that it's awesome. They would great,

749
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,960
but I guess you know, it's it's a challenge because

750
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,199
you've got the human element where they want to be

751
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,159
human and they want to use their profile to get

752
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:17,079
their opinion across. But on the same token that the

753
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,320
reason people are following you is for sport or music

754
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,239
or whatever it is. They're not following you for that,

755
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:26,440
but you're giving them that. That's I think my I

756
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,480
think that's my main grievance I have is that you know,

757
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,280
you've got a million followers, for example, because you're you

758
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:37,280
record great music, where you're acting great movies, not because

759
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,599
of your political opinions. So just don't give us that, you.

760
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: Know, just another we have so many issues in Australia

761
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:48,400
or in Sydney or even in Penrith, you know that

762
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,000
that it would be great if some of these celebrities

763
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:53,280
or sports stars, you know, shine a light on those

764
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,719
and let's let's fix our own country. You know, let's

765
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,840
you know, let's fix you saw what happened in Bondai.

766
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,559
We've got issues, yeah.

767
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: Well and we look at domestic violence, housness, the issues

768
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,679
that actually, yeah, that if some of these sports people

769
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:11,000
and celebrities actually spoke out about might actually change. That's right,

770
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,320
issues that are now.

771
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: So, yeah, they want to be political about what's happening

772
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,119
overseas in you know, in Minnesota, or in Israel or wherever,

773
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:21,679
the Ukraine, wherever there's stuff going on. There's some terrible

774
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:23,880
stuff going on, but you know there's some bad stuff

775
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,159
going on in your own backyard that affects you know,

776
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,559
you're your next door neighbor, that the person that goes

777
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,199
to a football game to cheer you on, Like, these

778
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,920
people are just as important.

779
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,079
Speaker 2: I think interestingly, you went to America over the summer

780
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,960
break and you were saying that because you I guess

781
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,920
see it highlights is the wrong word, I guess, but

782
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,599
we see we pick and choose another country. Stories you

783
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:50,159
were saying, it feels like Australia is much more obsessed

784
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,679
to say, Donald Trump, but America is. You know, America

785
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,480
is just getting on with that's just their life. Yeah.

786
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was saying to you a few weeks ago. Yeah,

787
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:01,159
I'd be over there and I still have like alerts

788
00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:03,920
for Australian news on my phone and I'm getting all

789
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,679
sorts of stuff popping up about you know, Venezuela and

790
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,800
Trump or whatever's going on ice And when you're over there,

791
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,519
and I watched a lot of news over there. You're

792
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:14,480
watching TV a lot in the hotel rooms and stuff

793
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:16,880
like that, and it's just it's just it's different. You're

794
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,760
not seeing that that sort of stuff. So Australia does

795
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,880
have a bit of an obsession.

796
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,599
Speaker 2: Like I think Australia thinks that America is talking about

797
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:25,320
nothing else than the.

798
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:27,079
Speaker 3: That's all that's going on over there.

799
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: But if you just watch the evening news in America,

800
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,400
they're more concerned about the car accident that happened on

801
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,119
the you know, the booklyn Bridge.

802
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,039
Speaker 3: Or something that's right. You know, that's right. All the

803
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:39,679
weather or yeah there's a flight delay or something. It's different,

804
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:39,920
you know.

805
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, well, look, getting away from the

806
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,480
political nature of our podcast and our crime, they've probably

807
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:49,360
lost a few few listeners there, maybe into something much

808
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,199
more serious. All the tipping emails are starting to come out,

809
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,480
you know, join the tipping comp Now I can reveal

810
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:57,679
exclusively here that there's only one person who didn't participate

811
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,079
in our staff tipping competition last year, and that's.

812
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: You Meah, it's ridiculous. You're lucky you didn't because I

813
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,880
might have won.

814
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,079
Speaker 2: You may have. Now what I want to know as

815
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:12,480
we start to think about our tipping comps this year,

816
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,239
is do you have a strategy when you're in a

817
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,000
tipping competition to try and win it? Well?

818
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the only Just to give you some insight,

819
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:23,280
the only tipping comp I am a part of now

820
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,920
is the one in the in the paper in the

821
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,760
western weekend of the every week.

822
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:30,039
Speaker 2: Is the celebrity emails from place I joined our tipping

823
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:30,920
comp You don't.

824
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: No, I don't get anything anymore. I think I got

825
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,039
one from from from you a few weeks ago. I

826
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,599
don't know whether that was an automatic mail at You don't.

827
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: Have to look too hard. If you wanted to join

828
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,159
the NRL dot com tipping comp or the Teller, you could.

829
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:41,760
I could.

830
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: I think I think I've been part of tipping combs,

831
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:47,559
you know, ever since I was a kid. You know,

832
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:49,480
we're the ones at home that you do with your family.

833
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:52,320
Used to get the pull out from the paper from

834
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,599
the telegraph and you feel it every week like that's

835
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:56,480
how long I've been doing tipping combs for I guess

836
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,440
I don't know I just didn't in this job. I

837
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,400
think I'm happy to've been a tipping comp. Want to

838
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,960
be in one tipping comp. Okay, there's ones enough for.

839
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: Me normally in about five, I know, but that's a

840
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:06,679
lot of works.

841
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: Sometimes you forget to put them in, or you forget

842
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,679
who you've tipped for what game, And I don't know,

843
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,199
but what strategy do you like?

844
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: Well, over the years, I have changed significantly, And let

845
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,760
me tell you, I have not wanted to been comping

846
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,800
donkeys years. But yes, I've gone through like like you

847
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,079
just mentioned there, I've gone through the period where I've

848
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:29,360
got different tips for different comp the track. The last

849
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,480
couple of years, I have been much more consistent in

850
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:33,480
making sure I picked the same teams. They just happen

851
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:39,840
to be the wrong teams. So look, there's there's a

852
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,079
couple of methods that I've heard that look, WHYTT you

853
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,320
just do this? But what happens is in those early rounds,

854
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,000
this is what I reckon happens. Everyone says I was

855
00:40:48,039 --> 00:40:51,519
just going to back the favorites essentially, but there's always

856
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:54,679
upsets in that first month of competition. So then you

857
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,119
go and now I'm going to start chasing and you

858
00:40:57,159 --> 00:41:00,000
go maybe a little upset here, maybe a little upset there,

859
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,320
and then you just get behind and it.

860
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: Seems to be your your strategy had been over.

861
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: Yes, and I reckon that the best chance you have

862
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,119
is just to go to the favor I think if

863
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:12,280
you got to the end of the year, then the

864
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,039
favorites would win.

865
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's that's that's genuine generally what

866
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:19,199
I would do. I usually have it because you know,

867
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,239
we know our rugular league. Troy wouldn't be doing this

868
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,079
podcast if we didn't, So I try and use my

869
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:28,360
own knowledge, my knowledge of the teams, or I'm wary

870
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,360
of what players are missing for that week and I

871
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,360
home ground they're playing at. So firstly, it's more educated

872
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,559
knowledge on those those teams and what I've done pretty

873
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:39,320
well the last few years. I'm often in the top

874
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,199
in that paper one. We have got forty people tipping,

875
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:44,039
and I'm not often in the top, you know, the

876
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:48,159
top half at least or the top quarter. So that

877
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,039
that comes first. If I'm stuck on a game when

878
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,719
you've got like Sharks, Bulldogs and they're sitting at three

879
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,239
or four on the table and it's hard to split,

880
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,760
I'll often go I'll check the odds and I'll be like, oh, okay,

881
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,360
the bookies are given the Sharks the edge year. So

882
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,400
that that's how I usually split the you know, split

883
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,599
split the two teams up.

884
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: I think my theory this year is going to be favorites. However,

885
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,719
if it's I'm going to go favorites, I think that's boring.

886
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: But it's consistent. You have a consistent year if you

887
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,679
do that.

888
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: And then I'm going to tho go if if when

889
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:28,880
we say favorites there within I don't know how really

890
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,159
odds work, but say they're in within forty cents of

891
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:33,159
each other. Yeah, I'm going to go to the home

892
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:35,599
team no matter what. So even if so say one

893
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,440
team's a dollar eighty and another team's two dollars, but

894
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,880
the home team there's two dollars, I'm going to go

895
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,440
to the home team.

896
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: So that's my that's my it's going to be a stranger.

897
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: I just thought what I might do is personal assistant

898
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:53,719
chat GPT. Hey, Alex, Hey, what's on your mind today?

899
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,199
Nathan's looking at me. Sorry, Alex, I'm just wondering, is

900
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:02,400
there any chance you could tell me? You probably don't

901
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,320
know this but in the in the twenty twenty five

902
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:20,559
NRL season, the percentage of favorites that won, thinking, yeah.

903
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: I couldn't find a specific percentage for favorites winning in

904
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,599
the twenty twenty five n RL season.

905
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks, Alex is not taking over the world,

906
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,679
all right.

907
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,519
Speaker 3: I'll tell you a nice story. Obviously last year I

908
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:38,840
had to tip for John Farraga. I would call him

909
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,320
and you have to Troy, and you know he would

910
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,079
tip on behalf of someone else in the paper. But

911
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,079
he took it very seriously. You know. He would he

912
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:50,960
would ask for the team lists in certain games, who's playing.

913
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,880
He'd want to know if they were favorites or not.

914
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:57,159
He took it very seriously. So there are a lot

915
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,719
of people out there that just just pick whatever, and

916
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,039
they probably don't do so well. They just pick random

917
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:04,400
teams and go for their life.

918
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:08,039
Speaker 2: But there are people like you know, Doris the tea lady,

919
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:09,920
who just pick based on the colors.

920
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: And they can they can get lucky work for you.

921
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,639
But I think if you put a bit of I

922
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:15,440
don't know a little bit of leg work in and

923
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,880
you know you're footy, you genuinely, you know, can do

924
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,519
quite well.

925
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well we want to hear podcasts at

926
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,480
Western Weekend, dot com dot AU. What are your tipping strategies?

927
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,079
All right at this time for the price is right,

928
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,079
we need a bit of it music. We need to

929
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:33,719
come on down, you know, so, Nathan Taylor, come on down.

930
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,280
This is how this game works. If you weren't listening

931
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,079
to our first episode last week. I give Nathan an

932
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:44,119
item from the Panther Shop. He has to guess the price.

933
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,639
I think within fifty cents. Yeah, yeah, within fifty cents.

934
00:44:48,679 --> 00:44:51,519
Make it easy for me, and if Nathan gets it right,

935
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,840
then then I'll buy the item.

936
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,519
Speaker 3: Excellent for now. I visited the Panthers physical shop a

937
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:58,960
lot over the past week. I went there on Friday

938
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:00,760
night to have a look around. I've been there a

939
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,119
little bit, but I'm sure you're going to throw me.

940
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,199
I saw that little squishy thing there. Actually I had one.

941
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you thought that was a bit of a

942
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:10,679
price based on your.

943
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: There's actually a little version too. You have the fifty

944
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,840
dollars version, like a thirty dollars version there you go.

945
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Nathan, these are the two items we've

946
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:26,400
got for you. And where we start with is as

947
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,760
I bring. Bring it up. The Panthers cheese board. Okay,

948
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:34,719
elevate your entertaining experience with the official NRL cheese board

949
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:39,079
featuring the iconic Penrith Panthers design. This carefully crafted serving

950
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:41,960
board is not just a functional piece, it's a statement

951
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:47,440
of your team pride. Comes with gift box packaging, premium bamboo,

952
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:52,280
easy to clean, It's thirty five centimeters by thirty five centimeters,

953
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:57,079
laser engraved Panthers logo. Okay, all right, now we're looking

954
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,679
at the not the members price. We're looking at the

955
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,519
full price. If you're on the Panther Shop and you thought,

956
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,480
you know what I need a Panther's cheese board.

957
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: Does it come with the like cutting, like knives or

958
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,559
anything like that. No, it's just the board and the boards.

959
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:13,519
It's wooden board, right.

960
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: Bamboo, it's a bamboo bar food great bamboo.

961
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,519
Speaker 3: And you said it's engraved. Is it any color to.

962
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,039
Speaker 2: It at all? Or is it much as your normal

963
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:24,800
would sort of Panther logo coming through, I'd say it

964
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,400
about seventy percent transparency.

965
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: Pretty solid.

966
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,599
Speaker 2: It looked like a solid yeah, yeah, thirty five by

967
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:31,800
thirty five. It's easy to clean as I said, it's

968
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,280
a one point five centimeters stick.

969
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: Okay, look, I think that's going to be quite an

970
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,760
expensive product actually, so I'm going to go seventy five dollars.

971
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,519
Speaker 2: Really well, get over there and buy a cheeseboard. It

972
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:47,920
is only thirty two ninety nine wow for the Panthers

973
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,599
cheese board, half price exactly. So that means when you

974
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:54,599
think about the value you give that, it.

975
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:57,119
Speaker 3: Just sounded like you sold it like this was a

976
00:46:57,159 --> 00:47:00,639
real solid, you know, penny item.

977
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: You all right, let's see if you can get a

978
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:06,840
bagon the twenty twenty six Panthers Training Visor. Oh okay,

979
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,679
Penrith Panthers is proud to launch this visor. Stay cool

980
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:14,000
and back the Panthers with this twenty twenty six Panthers

981
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:17,800
Training Visor. Built for performance, the featherweight fabric keeps you

982
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,920
comfortable whether you're on the move or in the stands.

983
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,760
An adjustable hook and loop closure ensures the perfect fit,

984
00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:28,840
making it a must have for every Panthers fan. Importantly,

985
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,800
it is one size fits all, one hundred percent polyester.

986
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,320
This one.

987
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: Okay. Look, when you buy a cap, they're often about

988
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,760
fifty dollars. Okay, so I'm thinking of visor is going

989
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,760
to be cheaper because you've got half a cap. Basically,

990
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,320
you're missing half of it. You know, it's not going

991
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,480
to be like a twenty dollars item because it's a

992
00:47:49,559 --> 00:47:54,079
licensed NRL Panthers product. So I'm going to think it's

993
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:59,119
in the thirty dollars range. But where in the thirty dollars.

994
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,119
Speaker 2: Range the Panther's training vis at twenty twenty six there

995
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:04,840
were Casey McLean wearing it on the Panther's website.

996
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to say thirty two dollars.

997
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh, you were so close thirty four ninety nine. Ah damn,

998
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:14,719
what will you get? You'll get something this year. Surely

999
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:15,519
you'll get this right.

1000
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: Well, funny story, Troy, I sent this to you in

1001
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,320
a group chat the other day. I was in Newtown

1002
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,199
on Sunday, just you know, perusing through some of the

1003
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,880
vintage shops over there, as you do on a Sunday afternoon,

1004
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,719
and I stumbled in one of the shops and they

1005
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:34,199
were selling Panthers membership hats from from the ears, like

1006
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,679
twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three. So if someone's donated.

1007
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: This hat and someone's popped into this store, into.

1008
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: The Ego donated it in these hats we get for

1009
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,440
free in our membership yep packs right where you know

1010
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,559
we all get one. Yep, they were selling them. I

1011
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:52,920
don't know anyone would buy one fifty five dollars. Wow,

1012
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,159
fifty five dollars for twenty twenty two.

1013
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: Panthers membership can tell you I've got two of them.

1014
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,880
They can have them, That's what I mean. If anyone

1015
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,559
out there, I'll do it for fifty These.

1016
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: Aren't the new era ones that you buy from Rebel

1017
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:04,960
or from the Panther store. These are just the ones

1018
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,639
they get from China. Probably two for eighty bucks, I do.

1019
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:12,320
And there were multiple of them. And like Newtown's probably

1020
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,400
not the place where a lot of Panthers vans probably go,

1021
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,840
or you know what I mean, then people probably aren't

1022
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,400
looking for Panthers caps in Newtown.

1023
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,199
Speaker 2: What we might do next week if people can ride

1024
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,639
in two podcasts at Western Weekend at commod A. You

1025
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:30,840
the strangest place you've seen a Panther's person or merchandise

1026
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,760
person or merching like someone wearing a Panthers jo ah right, okay,

1027
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:39,039
or merchandise the place that you just what is going

1028
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:41,079
on here? Because I'm going to tell you this happens

1029
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,119
like ten years ago. I mean, where's Wally as far

1030
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:49,800
as finding But I was driving even on the Central coast, YEP,

1031
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:53,039
about a month ago, just on a suburban street. We

1032
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:54,960
were at like a resort, and then we went on,

1033
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:57,599
let's just drive around the streets, just drive around, and

1034
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:00,199
there key comes a bloke wearing a Panthers jersey down

1035
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,800
the street to the bus stop. So like, you see

1036
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,000
them everywhere now, But but you know, where's the strangest

1037
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:05,800
place you've seen?

1038
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people have probably seen

1039
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:11,280
people overseas or whatever. Like, I'm sure it's pretty much.

1040
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,199
Speaker 2: I reckon I've got one stranger than this. But yes,

1041
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,760
the one for me last year was obviously at the

1042
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,800
Country Music Museum in Nashville.

1043
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: That's right.

1044
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: I saw a Panther fan who actually recognized me.

1045
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:25,039
Speaker 3: And were they therefore.

1046
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:26,679
Speaker 2: They were going to Vegas? Okay, they were doing the

1047
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,599
long way round as well, Nashville.

1048
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 3: Side Ville, Yes, but very interesting. I'm glad I got close.

1049
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,400
I've got close on that one, but maybe not. The

1050
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,199
cheese board.

1051
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,119
Speaker 2: Vegas is on a few weeks ago. I'm going to

1052
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,480
tell you I came back from Vegas last year saying,

1053
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,480
if I never see Las Vegas again, I'm okay. I've

1054
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,039
been there twice.

1055
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:45,559
Speaker 3: You even said that last week on the show.

1056
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: YEP, just in the last few days A little bit

1057
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,920
jealous of these fans about the head to Vegas because

1058
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,159
I'm like, they're all on their Facebook groups asking for

1059
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:58,599
some advice y else. And I'm going to tell you

1060
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:02,679
I was so into my Nashville planning that I didn't

1061
00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:05,480
plan anything for Vegas, so I probably drank at the

1062
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:10,800
most expensive places and get any bargain. Stuffy, but but yes,

1063
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:11,840
very interesting.

1064
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't that the teams this year don't excite me, though.

1065
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: No, And we're never going to get this is the thing.

1066
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,599
I mean, whether we're playing in Vegas or abud Derby

1067
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:24,199
was suggested the other day, You bui, We're never going

1068
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,920
to get blockbuster games. Penreth and Paramatta are never going

1069
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,440
to agree to play Penrith and Paramatta in Vegas or

1070
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,480
somewhere else when the gates for that for that game

1071
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:39,360
is because you've got the Bulldogs Dragons right in Vegas.

1072
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,920
They've agreed apparently for the second league of that game

1073
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,800
this year to actually play it. At a neutral venue,

1074
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:48,119
Alian Stadium and split the gate.

1075
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 3: Oh really, Okay, is this a Bulldogs home game for

1076
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:51,719
this one?

1077
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so I don't know officially is it a

1078
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,199
Bulldogs home game. Well, let's see what the NAL declares

1079
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,559
it as. The NAL does say it's a Bulldogs home game. Okay,

1080
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,280
so would have been a Dragon's home game. But I

1081
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,800
don't know how they've come up with that agreementcause the

1082
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,760
Dragon why would you do that if you're the Dragons.

1083
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure, but.

1084
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: That's what they've come up with anyway, So.

1085
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:10,599
Speaker 3: Gust has probably done some sort of back end deal there,

1086
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:11,039
I'm sure.

1087
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: And those games, yeah, coming up in Vegas one fifteen

1088
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,000
and three thirty pm on the first of March. There

1089
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:21,880
be people who've gone to Vegas every year. I wonder

1090
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,440
if they're feeling well.

1091
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 3: A lot of especially a lot of like NRL reporters

1092
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,280
and stuff like that. They got on the junkets over there.

1093
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,000
They've certainly gone to a few now. They probably do it.

1094
00:52:31,039 --> 00:52:31,679
They probably do it.

1095
00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 2: Look for dan Gan Ainge was providing advice to people

1096
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,480
during his call the other night. Was he he was

1097
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:39,280
talking about tipping and when you should tip and shouldn't tip.

1098
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,679
He's just givings like a man speaking from experience in

1099
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,639
this venture.

1100
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,559
Speaker 3: But next year, I think there's five teams left that

1101
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:52,239
haven't had a Vegas game yet, So for next year

1102
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,519
there's gonna be someone's going to miss out, and plus

1103
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:58,440
the Perth Bears are coming into so so.

1104
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,039
Speaker 2: There's two teams in the comp tian next year. Who

1105
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,480
that will will then have not been debated exactly yet,

1106
00:53:03,519 --> 00:53:05,360
but that would have to be the Tiger. I know

1107
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,440
that Sean Mellencamp, the new CEO, is kind of back

1108
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:09,840
down on Shane Richards's common He didn't want to go,

1109
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,760
did he? Shane Richardson was very adam at the Tigers

1110
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,800
weren't going to Vegas. Well, I think their papers are

1111
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,199
just marked there, so they're not going.

1112
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 3: Because you've got Melbourne paramatter, which I can see those

1113
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,039
two teams playing next year.

1114
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, got the.

1115
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,159
Speaker 3: Dolphs yet and then Tiger's obviously, And.

1116
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 2: Obviously it won't be the Titans Dolphins playing each other

1117
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,400
because they don't want two queens. Then they won't want

1118
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,840
to queens. I reckons it'll be the Titans and.

1119
00:53:33,559 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 3: Then they get the whole state to go over it'll.

1120
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 2: Be the Titans and the Eels you reckon, for example,

1121
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,320
and then the Storm and the Storm and the Dolphins.

1122
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:48,519
Speaker 3: The storm Powers. That would be a great matchup history.

1123
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,639
Speaker 2: You might get storm paraus. I don't know if gate

1124
00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:53,719
gate takings for Storm Power, like any game involving the

1125
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,599
Melbourne Storm in Sydney is not not brilliant, But yeah, yeah,

1126
00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:59,760
it'll be. Look, it will be interesting to see if

1127
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,760
we can continue with Vegas, because wasn't it was We're

1128
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,960
definitely doing Vegas, So there wasn't there some story in

1129
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,599
the paper on the weekend about going to Dubai.

1130
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,679
Speaker 3: I think that was that was tossed up. Yeah, but

1131
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,039
whether these Vegas agreements still got a few years to go. Okay,

1132
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,760
but I know other clubs apparently want to come back

1133
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,679
and do it again, like your Brisbane's Roosters, those sort

1134
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,079
of big clubs. They believe they should they should come

1135
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:21,920
back for a second more.

1136
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I do look going back to Nashville later this year.

1137
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,360
I'm already decided that I've stuffed up my well not

1138
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,639
stuffed up, but the great people at Quantas moved one

1139
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:36,920
of my flights is.

1140
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: This new info.

1141
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: This is new info. We talked about this the other week,

1142
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,880
didn't We We talked about this weird thing with with

1143
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:43,760
air airplanes. This has got nothing to do with the

1144
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,760
regular league. It is the off season where they give

1145
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:52,920
you this ridiculous amount of time to transit. So for example,

1146
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:55,199
in our when we went to Las Vegas last year,

1147
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:59,880
we arrived into Dallas or wherever we landed wasn' Dallas

1148
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,920
with Houston. You have to fly into Houston. Did then

1149
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,400
get to Nashville, And they only left ninety minutes or

1150
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,159
even less, maybe an hour twenty to do the transfer.

1151
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,079
So you've got to go through custom You've actually got

1152
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:14,599
to read check tricky. Yeah, you've actually got to recheck bags,

1153
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,880
You've got to do all of that stuff. And literally,

1154
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,840
while I was standing in the security line, my phone

1155
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,719
refreshed and I was on the next flight to Nashville,

1156
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,519
not the one that I've already done, because it had

1157
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:26,920
already bumped me. Because so I don't get why they

1158
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,280
even try, Why do they even try anyway? What's what's

1159
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,239
happened happened now in the last few days is I

1160
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,119
was already worried about that transit time because again was

1161
00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:38,599
an hour twenty minutes in Dallas, Big Hub got to

1162
00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:41,360
get through everything and whatever else. Go on to Reddit

1163
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:43,480
as you do when you want these answers, and everyone's

1164
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,960
saying no chance anyway. American Airlines have moved their leg

1165
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,719
of the domestic flight from Dallas to Nashville forward ten minutes,

1166
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,960
and that is obviously broken the rule, whatever the rule

1167
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,559
may be. Yes, and so I have now been already

1168
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:01,440
pushed that later flight.

1169
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 3: Oh really.

1170
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: Hours That's okay, yes, but now I'm going to be

1171
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,320
two hours late into Nashville. But I never thought I

1172
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:09,840
was gonna make it.

1173
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: You weren't going to make it anyway. Hey, that's you're

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gonna have to stress. Now you're fine, you'll make that plane's.

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Speaker 2: Look, I will. But now I'm like, I should have

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left the day earlier because now I'm getting to Nashville

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really late at night.

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Speaker 3: Well I'm not that well time you're going to get

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into Nation, that's not late.

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Speaker 2: That's when things are kicking off. Yeah, but by the

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time I get to the hotel. Second story here about

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quantas and this is this is this is a great

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00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,519
story about companies because we all have we both talk

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about this quite a lot. Companies that just don't think logically, yea.

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So my my friend Matt, who's coming with me to

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Nashville in later in the year, he is going to

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Disneyland first and then to New York. So therefore he

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is only booked his return flight from Sydney Sydney to LA.

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That's it, doing all his domestic stuff himself, you know, internally.

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So the other day I say to him, Hey, I've

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picked my seat on the Nashville to LA flight for

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the way home. Here's where I'm sitting. If you want

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to pick the one next to me, both bigger guys,

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So a little bit of exit ros, you know, I'll

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say the day you for drama. Anyway, Matt suddenly realizes

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I haven't booked that flight, like I'm going to get

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to lay for eleven thirty on the catching eleven thirty PM.

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Speaker 3: He's got all these flights, she's getting to Nashville, but he's.

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Speaker 2: Forgotten all about the fact that he's got to get

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to LA.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, so no drama books the same flight that I'm on,

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which has a two hour connection in LA. But obviously

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on the way home that connections easy because your bags

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go through. You've done your international drama. So he books

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that flight, then he goes he thinks to himself, hang on,

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Quanta just don't know that I'm on that flight, So

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I need to ring in a link the tickets. Now,

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let's remember I'm in the same situation. I'm catching the

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exact same flight, sitting right next to him, and he

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is catching the same flight home as me. Quantas say,

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we can't link that for you, and you're not going

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to make that connection. What because two hours in LA

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when you're going to have to come out. Yeah, he's

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going to have to check everything. You're not going to

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make it. Now, here's the other twist. You might think

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that Nashville to LA is a regular route. It is not.

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So he would have had to fly out at six

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a m. On the Sunday and stay in Los Angeles

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International Airport for hours waiting for me to get there

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and take the flight home. So I'm trying to find

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him another route and all this sort of stuff. And

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how are we going to.

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Speaker 3: Say he's booked this flight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's booked in Nashviielle to LA direct. Yes, so

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they a direct flight, yep. But it's just not linked

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and just won't link it. And I'm like but it's

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just a button like just and I was say, American

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Airlines and Quantus a partner airlines. Okay, so my ticket's

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linked between those two airlines. Just link it, you know,

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because the other issue, of course, is that if if

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he even if he does risk the two hours, if

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for some reason that flight is delayed, Quantas are taking

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no responsibility because it's not linked.

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Speaker 3: So that's right. Later, but you booked yours through a

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different avenue.

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Speaker 2: Mine solely Sydney to Nashville, so it's automatic.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's all you've done. Hey, But he's got

1239
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all these internals and just not matching up properly.

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Speaker 2: So we asked for the manager. And then when he

1241
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gets to the manager, he asked for the manager again.

1242
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,280
So he gets to a third level. He's on the

1243
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,280
phone a chat, but he's on the third level of

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Quantus call center.

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Speaker 3: He's almost got Alan Joyce, not that he's in charge

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of him.

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Speaker 2: And the guy goes, I'll link that for you, presses

1248
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:56,000
a button, does some stuff works, his magic charges him

1249
00:59:56,039 --> 00:59:58,519
a little change fee or something. Whatever.

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Speaker 3: You're happy after going through all this.

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01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:04,679
Speaker 2: Have to copy it done. Now, when we talk about

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01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:07,840
companies and all the efforts that companies go to to

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01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,760
win you over. Loyalty program, send out twenty three ADM,

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01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:14,519
send out text messages, send your list, or we love you,

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01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:18,880
we love you, we love you. Just empower the person

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on the first on the make the change. I've sold

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it all for your corporate Australia.

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Speaker 3: Well that's exactly right, and that happens all the time,

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01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,079
doesn't it. You know, if you go into a store,

1260
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a person can't do it, and you escalate, escalate and

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01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,119
that person can suddenly do it. These things can be done.

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01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:38,639
They're a pushover a button. It's whether they're too they

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01:00:38,679 --> 01:00:40,880
haven't been trained, or they're too scared to do something wrong,

1264
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,119
so they just tow the company lights and I can't

1265
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:45,480
do that. It happens at that fast food outlets too,

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01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,840
when you want to get something done or change and

1267
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,800
these these teenagers that are that are manning the tills,

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01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,599
they just don't have either the power or they just

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01:00:54,599 --> 01:00:56,480
don't have the knowledge that they can do these things.

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It's frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Well, we definitely do it with some topics today, not

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01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,320
a lot of them rugby legue related. We've dealt with

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01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,800
drug crimes, we've dealt with elections. We've dealt with political

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statements from politicians, tipping comps and now Corporate Australia and flights.

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01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:15,320
So there you go.

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01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 3: I'll be expanding our spending, our knowledge.

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01:01:18,599 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: Well that is it for Tensions Running High this week.

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01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:23,880
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01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,639
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01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,039
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01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,960
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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,199
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01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:36,000
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01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,239
Speaker 3: Store for yours app store is great.

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01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well Nathan, thanks for joining USANs having

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01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,519
thanks to Paris City Automotive too for their sponsorship. We'll

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01:01:43,559 --> 01:02:00,880
see you next time on Tensions Running High. Go the Panthers,

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01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:02,679
the band, the Gers SLOs