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<v Speaker 1>I could just let this play all morning long. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was coming, but it still sounds awesome. Little

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<v Speaker 1>Van Hallen on a Monday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I my night.

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<v Speaker 3>To morrow and good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Stan Carrell in for Brian Thomas, Joe Strecker rolling

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<v Speaker 1>out the Van Hallen.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta love it. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a while since I've been here behind this

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<v Speaker 1>microphone in the studio and I look around and I

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<v Speaker 1>see that nothing has changed. Well, there there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a few more pieces of I'm just the things in boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, there's there's an old clock radio in the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff like that is lying around. But the camera that

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<v Speaker 1>used to be in here is I don't it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not hooked up anymore. There are still one, two, three, four,

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<v Speaker 1>five giant TVs in here. Not a single one of

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<v Speaker 1>them works. And yeah, you're you're in this studio. It is, Joey.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm sitting in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>It is like I am totally isolated from the outside world.

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<v Speaker 1>The only window I have to the outside world is

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<v Speaker 1>a computer I have in front of me, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>God for that.

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<v Speaker 3>It works quite well.

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<v Speaker 1>But now my pleasure to be here and sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>for Brian Thomas and talking to the great and loyal

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<v Speaker 1>and outstanding audience, a fifty five KRC and Brian Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Brian's back tomorrow. We have we have a

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<v Speaker 1>big day. This is going to be a big day today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the seven o'clock hour. Congressman brad winstrip is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be here. And brad Winstrop has been as

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<v Speaker 1>you know he is. This is it for him, this

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<v Speaker 1>is his last go around. He decided not to run

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<v Speaker 1>for re election. And just recently, I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>it was Thursday or Friday last week, maybe Tuesday, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It was one day last week that his

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<v Speaker 1>Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic wrapped up its two

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<v Speaker 1>year investigation and they have put out a report that

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<v Speaker 1>is over five hundred pages long. And I was scrolling

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<v Speaker 1>through this report over the weekend and writing down a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions that I have for the congressman. But

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<v Speaker 1>as you look at this, it is absolutely amazing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many elements to this whole thing and

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<v Speaker 1>the Wuhan virus and what happened and what government did

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<v Speaker 1>and what government didn't do what Fauci did, and and

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of it, and every single one of

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<v Speaker 1>these elements, the money that was spent, the money that

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<v Speaker 1>was wasted, the money that was that was stolen, every

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<v Speaker 1>single one of these things is an absolute scandal on

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<v Speaker 1>its own. And and when you look at what happened

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<v Speaker 1>during this period of time, you've got scandal on top

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<v Speaker 1>of scandal on top of scandal, just one piled up

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<v Speaker 1>after the other, and so much unconstitutional activity. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is when you when you read about it and

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at it, people like Brian Thomas were

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<v Speaker 1>calling it out in real time. There there are some

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<v Speaker 1>show hosts down the hall that we're calling it out

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<v Speaker 1>in real time on this station.

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<v Speaker 3>And some of.

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<v Speaker 1>The some of the network hosts were called it out

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<v Speaker 1>in real time. So the things that are revealed and

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in this report to this audience, to people

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<v Speaker 1>who pay attention are really, I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>they're nothing new. I mean, and it's I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>important that we have and accounting like this of how

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<v Speaker 1>things really happen. But we saw all this happen in

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<v Speaker 1>real time, and yet nothing was done about it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was all allowed to happen as if that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>way we do business now. And so we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to brad Winstrop about that and the thing

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<v Speaker 1>my first question is, well, one of my first questions

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<v Speaker 1>to him is going to be that when committees like

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<v Speaker 1>this get formed, when these sort of investigations take place,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the federal government, far too often

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<v Speaker 1>the outcome is predetermined. How often do we hear.

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, well, I can think of several examples, but

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<v Speaker 1>one is the impeachment inquiry. Okay, when Republicans started the

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<v Speaker 1>impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden, you had all the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>who were objecting to this because they were already jumping

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<v Speaker 1>ahead to the end. Well, you don't have the votes

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<v Speaker 1>to impeach. Yeah, yeah, you're never going to impeach. The

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<v Speaker 1>Senate's never going to convict him in a trial in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. This is a waste of time. Why even

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<v Speaker 1>bother to do it? Well, you bother to do it

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<v Speaker 1>because the investigation is worthwhile. And when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the report that came out, what was it a month

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<v Speaker 1>or so ago about all that? Maybe it was more

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<v Speaker 1>than a month ago, but it was a while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I lose track of time. I mean, there's so there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much water that goes under the bridge, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at this stuff on a daily basis, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it was about a month ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It might have been more.

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<v Speaker 1>In any case, the report came out talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that the Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>Crime family had done.

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<v Speaker 1>When you talk about Hunter Biden, when you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all the companies that they formed, all the money, the

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars that was going from Ukraine, from Uzbekistan,

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<v Speaker 1>from China into the Biden family, all that stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>again that's just one aspect of what by was up

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<v Speaker 1>to and the impeachment inquiry. So it's my way of thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to do these investigations to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have Democrats jumping ahead saying, no, why even bother,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a waste of time. No, it's not a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time. I never thought Joe Biden was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be impeached. Obviously, that was never going to happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what matters. Having the information on record for

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<v Speaker 1>historical purposes, I suppose, So my way of thinking, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's important, and maybe someday there'll be a prosecution.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny Barack Obama's out there over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>given a speech.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that guy is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is amazing to see how much juice that guy

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<v Speaker 1>has lost. And I think it's all thanks to the Trumpster.

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<v Speaker 1>But getting back to Brad Weinster, so so many times

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<v Speaker 1>when committees like this or formed, investigations are done, the

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<v Speaker 1>people who were on the committee, like the January sixth committee,

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<v Speaker 1>right when that committee formed, it had one purpose in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was to blame Donald Trump for what happened

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<v Speaker 1>on January sixth. And I have to admit when Liz Cheney,

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<v Speaker 1>and when Liz Cheney was the co chair of that committee,

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<v Speaker 1>I held out a little bit of hope because for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time Liz Cheney was not really a leader

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<v Speaker 1>in the conservative movement, but a person who who seemed

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<v Speaker 1>and furthering the conservative cause. Now, of course, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>Bush Republican. Her dad was his vice president. Dick Cheney

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of I had a lot of respect

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<v Speaker 1>for Dick Cheney. I think that guy is. I think

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<v Speaker 1>his mind is going the same way as Joe Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>is so Dick Cheney's not as sharp as he used

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<v Speaker 1>to be, and I think she takes a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>her advice from her dad. But I held out hope

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<v Speaker 1>that she would once she started seeing the truth of

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<v Speaker 1>some of these matters, she would stand up and say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, call the balls and strikes when it came

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<v Speaker 1>to what really happened on January sixth. But no, she

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<v Speaker 1>was hell bent on blaming Trump. So that was their

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<v Speaker 1>end goal. That's where they wanted to go from the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning. I don't think that this committee had that

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<v Speaker 1>mindset going into this. So I'll talk to Brad Winster

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<v Speaker 1>about that. In the seven o'clock hour, he'll be here

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<v Speaker 1>So I am really looking forward to that happening a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later today. And then Chris Smitherman will be

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, well, seven thirty, that's Chris Smithment time, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a smith event. Chris Smithervent has graciously agreed to move

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<v Speaker 1>Smithman then. So that is what is going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>on the show a little bit later on. But we

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<v Speaker 1>got to get to a break here and we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>a little weather. I think Chuck is in today. It

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<v Speaker 1>is raining outside, and so we'll talk about that as

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<v Speaker 1>we roll on. Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas on

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful Monday morning on fifty five KRCV Talk stage.

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<v Speaker 5>I got thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking, giving you the tools to make

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<v Speaker 3>up your own mind and think for yourself. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to be in this group block the news. The issues,

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<v Speaker 3>station five nineteen. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas. I gotta

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<v Speaker 3>write the phone number down again. Let's see if I

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<v Speaker 1>Seven nine. I better write this down. What is it again,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe seven fifty five hundred. It has been so long

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<v Speaker 1>since I it has been months since I have been

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<v Speaker 1>been here on the morning show. And I saw I

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<v Speaker 1>sent a text to Joe, I don't know, three or

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks ago. I said, hey, man, I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of these times when Brian Thomas takes off, I'm available.

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<v Speaker 3>And so here I am.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hear a lot about the fourteenth Amendment, I

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<v Speaker 1>think in the news today and the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Why well, because Donald Trump had a little sit down

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<v Speaker 1>on NBC and the interview with Kristen Welker ran on

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<v Speaker 1>Meet the Press. I think she recorded it when Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they had a little sit down and

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<v Speaker 1>the interview ran on Meet the Press. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. I'm kicking I was kicking myself yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 1>planned to watch it because it's part of my job,

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<v Speaker 1>but I enjoy watching those sorts of things. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have to be honest, did not watch the entire interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Read about it. I've got a ton of clips here

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<v Speaker 1>from it. And one of the things we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be hearing about is the fourteenth Amendment. Why Why?

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<v Speaker 6>Why?

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<v Speaker 5>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because Kristin Walker, according to Mike Lee, misrepresented what the

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<v Speaker 1>fourteenth Amendment is all about. And let's see, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I had this right in front of me. Senator Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Lee took NBC News to task for the selectively omitting

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<v Speaker 1>a key part of the Fourteenth Amendment, and a question

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<v Speaker 1>about birthright citizenship during an interview with President Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, Trump was asked about a number of changes

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<v Speaker 1>he intends to implement once he assumes office during a

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<v Speaker 1>sit down release on NBC's Meet the Press, including his

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<v Speaker 1>planned and birthright citizenship. Under the fourteenth Amendment, someone born

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<v Speaker 1>in the US's granted citizenship regardless of whether their parents

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<v Speaker 1>are citizens. That is not exactly true, but Kristin Welker

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<v Speaker 1>went a step further, saying, the fourteenth Amendment states that

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<v Speaker 1>all persons in the United States are citizens, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is that is again, that is not true either. So

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<v Speaker 1>let me let's see what I've got. I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cuts here and Trump, I think Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, let's just start with cut number one. Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Cut one, Sir, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't have to tell you this because you've talked about it.

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<v Speaker 8>It comes at a time when the country is deeply divided,

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<v Speaker 8>and now you're going to be leading this country for

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<v Speaker 7>The sake of unifying this country.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you concede the twenty twenty election and turn the

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<v Speaker 2>No, oh, why would I do that? But let me

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<v Speaker 4>When you say the country is deeply divided, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>Kill Biden's de pressient, but.

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<v Speaker 7>You're going to be the president.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not the president. So when you say it

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<v Speaker 4>staply divided, I agree. But Biden's the president, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>And he has been a divider and you know where

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<v Speaker 4>I think definitely his weaponization when he weaponized the Justice

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<v Speaker 4>went after his political opponent violently because he knew he

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<v Speaker 8>So Democrats have control of the White House now they

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<v Speaker 8>didn't in twenty twenty. If they are going around stealing

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<v Speaker 2>When you say Democrats have control.

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<v Speaker 8>Now of the White House, yeah, so why didn't they

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<v Speaker 4>Because I think it was too big to rig. I

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<v Speaker 8>To the people who say that, you're now directing.

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<v Speaker 7>Your Justice Department to investigate.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the right to do that, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not interested. I have the absolute right. I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the But I'm not interested in that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I'm interested in drilling and getting prices

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<v Speaker 2>And mental institutions.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is fantastic right there. I'm not interested in

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<v Speaker 1>that now, Pam BONDI might be interested in that. Some

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<v Speaker 1>You know, cash, buttell at the FBI, yeah, he might

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<v Speaker 1>be interested in that. I'll leave that to them. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to get the economy going again. That is what

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is talking about. And they are in people like

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin Welker and the left, they are so hell bent

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<v Speaker 1>on making sure that Trump talks about And again, how

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<v Speaker 1>many times have we heard that Trump doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>let go of the twenty twenty election whenever and this

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<v Speaker 1>was true during the campaign. The only time he talked

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<v Speaker 1>first things that she talked about. What about the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty election is? I mean, we're way past that. That

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to talk about unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not unbelievad it's par for the course. But

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<v Speaker 1>from yesterday, so we were rolling that out during the course,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we will compare that in contrast with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that Joe Biden had to say about Syria.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got to get to a break, so we

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<v Speaker 1>will do that now as we roll on till nine

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock this morning. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas fifty five

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<v Speaker 3>What's up everybody ever see the talk station Dan Carolyn

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<v Speaker 1>And I was talking earlier about how we're gonna hear

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about the fourteenth Amendment. I think during the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the the news day today it probably ensoed

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow as well. And I was looking at the roster

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<v Speaker 1>that I have with the sound bites that I pulled

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<v Speaker 1>is Trump talking about uh families being deported.

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<v Speaker 3>And she was talking about, well, what about the families.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so concerned and Trump knows what's coming and he

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<v Speaker 1>and he said right to her, he said, look, we're

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<v Speaker 1>families that are that are huddled together, and and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>and she talked about, you know, family separation. Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be so horrible, and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>so terrible when these deportations start. And Trump said what

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Homan said a few weeks ago, they can be

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<v Speaker 1>deported together. In fact, the Biden administration is doing it

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<v Speaker 1>and has been doing it the entire time, not to

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<v Speaker 1>the degree that Trump will do it, but they've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. And when we talked about the fourteenth Amendment,

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<v Speaker 1>I was reminded of a piece that Ann Coulter wrote

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Actually, if this piece is from back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, and she talks about the fourteenth Amendment, and

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<v Speaker 1>she talks about Justice Brennan's footnote gave us anchor babies

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<v Speaker 1>and Democrats. And it's funny because this piece is from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen or I'm sorry, twenty ten, so it's fourteen years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and the issue is still as relevant today as it

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<v Speaker 1>was at that time. And and Culture writes, Democrats act

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<v Speaker 1>you are eight months pregnant, give birth in a US hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>and then immediately start collecting welfare was exactly what our

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<v Speaker 1>forebears had in mind, a sacred constitutional right as old

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<v Speaker 1>as the Fourteenth Amendment itself. The louder liberals talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some ancient constitutional right, the sure you should be that

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<v Speaker 1>it was invented in the last few decades. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>this ledge right derives only from a footnote slide slyly

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty two. You might say it snuck in when

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<v Speaker 1>no one was looking, and now we have to let

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<v Speaker 1>it stay.

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<v Speaker 3>The Fourteenth Amendment was added after the Civil.

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<v Speaker 1>War in order to overrule the Supreme Court's dread Scott decision,

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<v Speaker 1>which had held that black slaves were not citizens of

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<v Speaker 1>to stop sleazy Southern states from denying citizenship rights to

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<v Speaker 1>newly freed slaves, many of whom had roots in this

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<v Speaker 3>The amendment guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>That free slaves would have had all the privileges of

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship by providing all persons born or naturalized in the

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States and the state wherein they resigned.

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<v Speaker 1>The drafters of the Fourteenth Amendment had no intention of

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<v Speaker 1>conferring citizenship on children of aliens who happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>not the massive welfare state operating as a magnet form aligners,

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<v Speaker 1>frauds and cheats that it is today. It's amazing the

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<v Speaker 1>drafters even considered the amendments effect on the children of

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<v Speaker 1>aliens what they did. The very author of the citizenship clause,

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan, expressly said this will not,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, include persons born in the United States who

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<v Speaker 1>are foreign ministers. In eighteen eighty four, a case called

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<v Speaker 1>Elk versus Wilkins, a Supreme Court ruled the Fourteenth Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>to tribal jurisdiction, not US jurisdiction. For one hundred years,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it stood, with only one case. Adding to

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<v Speaker 1>the caveat, the children born to legal permanent residents of

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<v Speaker 1>foreign government would also be deemed citizens under the fourteenth Amendment,

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<v Speaker 1>and then out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Brennan slipped a footnote into his five to four

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<v Speaker 1>opinion in Pliler versus Doe, asserting that no plausible distinction

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<v Speaker 1>with respect to the Fourteenth Amendment jurisdiction can be drawn

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<v Speaker 1>between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was

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<v Speaker 1>lawful and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful. Bretan's authority

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<v Speaker 1>for this lunatic statement was that it appeared in a

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<v Speaker 1>we have the history, the objective, the author's intent, and

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years of history of the fourteenth Amendment which

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<v Speaker 1>born to illegal immigrants. On the other hand, we have

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<v Speaker 1>and Culter explains how we got to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>we have the notion that if you're an illegal alien

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<v Speaker 1>that somehow that child is a citizen too, also known

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<v Speaker 1>as anchor babies. And Trump wants to bring an end

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<v Speaker 1>to that and all the horror, all the horror that

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<v Speaker 1>about that in the week ahead. Five point thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get to a break. Dan Kell for

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas on fifty five KRC. The talk stays it's

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<v Speaker 1>the marketers reporting fifty five hundred, Is that right, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>check in this morning. Probably the best story of the

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<v Speaker 1>day is that Dave Parker has been elected to the

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Hall of Fame, and congratulations to him. Cincinnati navid native,

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame. Former outfeater was elected through the Classic base

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<v Speaker 1>Ball Era Committee ballot, according to Mike Dyer, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is just that that's probably the best news of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>When you talk about local news, the other local news

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<v Speaker 1>sort of goes like this twenty year old woman is

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<v Speaker 1>dead after shooting overnight in Mount Airy. Cincinnati police said,

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<v Speaker 1>So three five to two thirty five forty two. That's

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<v Speaker 1>crime Stoppers if you have any information about that, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you have any information about a shooting in the

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<v Speaker 1>have any information on that? What else do we have?

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio man is dead shot by a resident when breaking

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<v Speaker 1>into his Westchester apartment. Police went to the apartment complex

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<v Speaker 1>on Shawnee Lane early Sunday morning. Officers found a man

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<v Speaker 1>who lived in one of the apartments, heard noises on

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<v Speaker 1>the balcony, and he found and shot a man who

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<v Speaker 1>had broken into his home. The intruder has not been identified,

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<v Speaker 1>taken to the hospital with life threatening injuries. The shooting

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<v Speaker 1>is under investigation. I would imagine, though, that if this

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<v Speaker 1>narrative is true, that individual is unlikely to face charges.

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<v Speaker 1>You're break into someone's home, you have to expect that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing, unless it's Hamilton. Hamilton County. As we know,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Strucker is a different story. Oh man, it's not funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't I shouldn't be laughing. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that, you know, the situation that we have

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<v Speaker 1>with judges here in Hamilton County is it's despicable. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is restorative justice? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>John?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of the I've read so many

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<v Speaker 1>stories recently about restorative justice.

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<v Speaker 3>That the prosecutor I was That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on I was over on seven hundred over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend doing a show there, and I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the prosecutor, not Alvin Bragg, but the uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor who's actually trying the case against Penny in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>And that trial resumes today after the jury has been

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<v Speaker 1>sent home. That jury's not sequestered. You know that that.

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<v Speaker 3>Jury goes home. I guess they go home.

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<v Speaker 1>They're free to look at the internet, they're free to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the news, they do do whatever they want.

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<v Speaker 1>But that jury comes back today to consider a lesser charge.

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<v Speaker 1>But Daphne Yorn is this prosecutor's name, And there's audio

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<v Speaker 1>an interview that she did some time ago talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a murder case she had and it's all on video.

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<v Speaker 1>An older gentleman was at an ATM. This thug comes

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<v Speaker 1>up and robs the guy, shoves him to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>The eighty seven year old victim winds him dying. A

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<v Speaker 1>clear cut case or murder, and then she says, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, once I took the time to look at

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<v Speaker 1>at the background of the perpetrator, I felt sorry for him,

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<v Speaker 1>so we dropped the charges. That's how these restorative justice

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<v Speaker 1>people and these prosecutors.

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<v Speaker 3>Spence justice.

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<v Speaker 1>And with a new prosecutor coming into Hamilton County, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if we are headed down the same road. Five

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<v Speaker 1>forty five Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas on fifty five

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<v Speaker 10>Running fifty five krc DE talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas. I wasn't sure if this

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<v Speaker 1>was a song or a commercial. Joe, you heard that

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<v Speaker 1>commercial that's using this song or rip off of this song.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know anymore. All the classics are turning into commercials,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But ya these you know, the people that

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<v Speaker 1>own the music, they're selling out, they're making money on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the name of that too. So that's just fine,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody won the lottery over the weekend powerball jackpot two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty six million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Jill, you'd be good at that, wouldn't you. The ninth

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<v Speaker 3>powerball jackpot of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>One winning ticket sold in New York had all sat

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<v Speaker 1>all six numbers one thirty one, forty three, fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven. Darn and those were the numbers I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to play too. Power Ball was twenty two. The

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<v Speaker 1>lucky ticket holder has a choice between the prize of

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty six million or a lump sum

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<v Speaker 1>of one hundred and twenty three point five million, so

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<v Speaker 1>just about half if you take the lump sum, that's

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<v Speaker 1>before taxes, and you cut that close to and half again.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you take the lump sum, you wind up

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<v Speaker 1>with in the neighborhood of what sixty five million, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe seventy out of a two hundred and fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar prize. I don't know which way would you

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<v Speaker 1>go on that, Joe? Would you take take it over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years? Would you take the lump sum? Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in our life, you know, you win

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, you spread it out over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>You're pretty much guaranteed to never be broke over the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your life. So that's pretty good. Yeah, But

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<v Speaker 1>sold in New York, and that's what you know. Every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while I'll buy those lottery tickets and

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<v Speaker 1>my wife will say did we win?

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<v Speaker 3>Did we win? Did we win?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just all stuff them in you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>glove compartment or a shovem and a drawer at home somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how do you know we.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't win if you didn't check it. I said, if

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<v Speaker 1>we won, there would be an announcement on the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone in Ohio won the jackpot. Then I would check

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<v Speaker 1>my ticket, and every once in a while I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>a stack of them and the old ones, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put them under the scan. I did that a few

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<v Speaker 1>days days ago. Was cleaning out some stuff in the

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<v Speaker 1>car and had some old lottery tickets. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>had actually expired. I'm sticking them under the thing. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a winner, not a winner, This one's expired. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>keep track of that bet a little bit better, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So congratulations to someone in New York that that won

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<v Speaker 1>the powerball jackpot.

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<v Speaker 3>That's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let me see I got I've got some more

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<v Speaker 1>Trump audio here. Let's talk about Chris and I again.

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<v Speaker 1>Kristen Welker just you know, she's been down this road.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the first time she's interviewed Trump, and

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<v Speaker 1>she she has not learned her lesson that trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get this guy in a corner, trying to make him

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<v Speaker 1>tuck his tail or apologize for anything. She's not learned

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<v Speaker 1>her lesson that that is not going to work with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is so obvious that anytime you get a

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<v Speaker 1>network big shot or someone who wants to be a

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<v Speaker 1>network big shot, they're always trying to be the one

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to stick at the Trump and it just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work. He or she is talking about what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen with the FBI, and Joe, let's your cut

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<v Speaker 1>number six?

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<v Speaker 8>Are you going to fire the current FBI director, Christopher Ray,

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<v Speaker 8>who you appointed.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I can't say I'm thrilled with him. He invaded

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<v Speaker 4>my home. I'm suing the country over it. He invaded

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<v Speaker 4>mar A Lago. I'm very unhappy with the things he's done.

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<v Speaker 4>And crime isn't an all time high. Migrants are pouring

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<v Speaker 4>into the country that are from prisons and from mental

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<v Speaker 4>institutions as we've discussed. I can't say I'm thrilled. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to say. I don't want to again. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to be Joe Biden and give you an

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<v Speaker 4>answer and then do the exact oppas.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about. So I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>do that.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm going to say is I certainly cannot be

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<v Speaker 4>happy with him. You take a look at what's happened.

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<v Speaker 4>And then when I was shot in the year he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it was shrapped. Where's this shrepnel coming from? Is

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<v Speaker 4>it coming from Is it coming from heaven? I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think so. So we need somebody to straight You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I have a lot of respect for the FBI, but

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<v Speaker 4>the FBI's respect has gone way down over the last

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<v Speaker 4>number of years.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't you have to fire him in order to make

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<v Speaker 7>room for.

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<v Speaker 8>Cash Batel if he is in fact confirmed.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean it would sort of seem pretty obvious

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<v Speaker 4>that if Cash gets in, he's going to be taking

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<v Speaker 4>somebody's place, right as somebody is the man that you're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that Kristen Walker. She's sharp, isn't she. Wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>have to fire him? Hasn't Chris Ray already said that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to step down, hasn't he Maybe I'm mistaken

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<v Speaker 1>about that, but he knows he you know, he knows

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<v Speaker 1>that his time is numbered. When after January twentieth, he

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<v Speaker 1>knows his days are numbered. And Cash Battell is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in there. And these Republican senators who are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stand in the way at Trump, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what they think they're doing. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea how they can weigh the pros and cons of

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<v Speaker 1>that and decide that trying to prevent Trump from getting

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<v Speaker 1>his nominees in place is a good thing for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know how they come to that conclusion.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, I we'll talk more about that a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot more Trump and some Joe Biden sound bites from

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. So a lot more to get to

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<v Speaker 1>in the next hour. And it is my pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>be here, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas on fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>KRC the Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the biggest news and trending news events from around

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<v Speaker 3>the world at the top end and bottom of the ally.

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<v Speaker 3>This is fifty five KRC, the Talk Station. The Claremont

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<v Speaker 3>County Veterans Service.

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<v Speaker 1>I had just let that sink in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of little Van Halen for you on a Monday morning.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's bad something. And good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Dan Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>in for Brian Thomas. My pleasure to be here. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Strucker rolling out the Van Halen. I always appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Strucker being here. And how are you doing this morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Great morning out there, the rain is coming down. I

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<v Speaker 1>got up early this morning and the dog came downstairs

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<v Speaker 1>and dog, dog's looking at me.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go outside. I want to go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I opened the door and the dog sees his rain

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<v Speaker 1>and he's looking at me like it's raining out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I know, get on out there. And he

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<v Speaker 1>got out there and did what he did and then

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<v Speaker 1>came back right back in. So it was the rain

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<v Speaker 1>is coming down. Should lighten up a little bit around

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<v Speaker 1>nine o'clock this morning, but yeah, to just get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for and look, you know what it's like when it rains,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and the rain is coming down pretty steady,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know what it's like when you got to

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<v Speaker 1>get out there, So just be ready for that this

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<v Speaker 1>morning what is going on? What is going on? Been

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<v Speaker 1>talking a lot about the Trump interview they did on

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<v Speaker 1>NBC over the weekend, Meet the Press on Sunday. Syria

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<v Speaker 1>has fallen. Rebel leaders have taken over Damascus. Ali Sad

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<v Speaker 1>has flown to Russia. Apparently that was the story I

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<v Speaker 1>heard overnight, and then Breitbart put this up. Look, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know a lot about the rebel forces that have

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<v Speaker 1>taken over. The US apparently launched some strikes in Syria too.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that, Joe, Did you know that over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend that we sent some B fifty two's in there.

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<v Speaker 1>We sent some F fifteen fighters in there, seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>strategic targets, all in the further iNTS of keeping ISIS

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<v Speaker 1>from getting back together. I guess now that ASAD has gone,

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<v Speaker 1>ISIS wants to rise up again in Syria. So the

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<v Speaker 1>US had over seventy five targets in Syria. Trump pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much wants to just stand back and stay away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the United States military got involved in Syria over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, hitting all kinds of all kinds of targets there.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden's ready to start shoveling money out the door

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe Biden was talking about how he's promising to

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<v Speaker 1>stay strong on this, and he also made this ridiculous statement,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Let's hear cut number nine. Joe Biden here cut

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<v Speaker 1>number nine.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, for years the main backers of ASSAD have

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<v Speaker 11>been Iran, Hezbalah and Russia. But over the last week

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<v Speaker 11>their support collapsed. All three of them, there's all three

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<v Speaker 11>of them are far weaker today than they were when

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<v Speaker 11>I took office.

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<v Speaker 1>Iran has a lot in Russia are weaker today than

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<v Speaker 1>when Joe Biden took office. Is there anyone listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this right now that believes that is true? Under Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's policies, Iran has been able to earn billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars selling oil. When the sanctions were put on Iran

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<v Speaker 1>under Trump, the money they were able to earn from

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<v Speaker 1>oil sales was a few million. Then it turned into billions,

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<v Speaker 1>and that in turn allowed Iran to start subsidizing it's

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<v Speaker 1>terrorists that they support in the Middle East and elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It's same thing with Russia. Through oil sales, Russia was

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<v Speaker 1>able to build up its forces in order to and

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<v Speaker 1>build up its financial wherewithal in order to conduct operations

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<v Speaker 1>going into Ukraine. So the fact that that Asad in

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<v Speaker 1>the civil war there has got to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>it is now Joe Biden's trying to take credit for that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can give Israel the credit for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel took out. Let me see if I can find this,

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<v Speaker 1>and Israel was what was all over Syria, and net

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<v Speaker 1>Yahoo was talking about that, about the things that they

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<v Speaker 1>did in Syria. Here's what Netanyahu said, historic day for

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East. Collapse of the Asid regime, the tyranny

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<v Speaker 1>and Damascus offers great opportunity. This fraught with significant dangers.

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<v Speaker 1>The collapse is a direct result of our forceful actions

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<v Speaker 1>against Hesbellah and Iran. Assad's main supporters set off a

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<v Speaker 1>chain reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>As bright Bart News reported, the IDF moved into the

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<v Speaker 1>demilitarized zone to the tourist Syrian rebels from attacking Israel's army.

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<v Speaker 1>Radio also reported IDF troops took over the peak of

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Herman on the Syrian side. So there was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of and there was video of this that

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<v Speaker 1>was out over the weekend of the attacks at Israel

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<v Speaker 1>was carrying out on different areas of Syria and then

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<v Speaker 1>this rebel leader that has taken over is an al

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<v Speaker 1>Qaeda guy, Ahmad al Shara known as Muhammad al jaw

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<v Speaker 1>Jawalami or I can't and I can't pronounce this other name.

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<v Speaker 3>He's done by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Leader of the Syrian rebels who OUs did Basar Ali

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<v Speaker 1>Sade have taken over the country, still has a ten

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar bounty on his head and is a wanted terrorist.

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<v Speaker 1>So the State Department is offering a ten million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>reward for this guy who is now in charge of Syria.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see. Let's see. The guy has carried out multiple

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist attacks throughout Syria, offering target civilian targeting civilians in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen, reportedly kidnapped and later released approximately three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>Kurdish civilians at a checkpoint in Syria. So this guy

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<v Speaker 1>has done just all kinds of despicable stuff. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he uh, CNN managed to do an interview with

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, I guess last week sometime undisclosed location in Syria.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't an amazing How CNN is so good at finding

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<v Speaker 1>these terrorist leaders and doing these interviews with him, Absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>CNN knows where he is, ten million dollar bounty on

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<v Speaker 1>his head. Then they don't well, you know they've they've

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<v Speaker 1>got Joe says it, don't drop a diamile on. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, CNN, they've got to have that journalistic integrity,

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<v Speaker 1>right they Yeah, there, there's very high standards there. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>how could they could they not get these interviews done.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I saw, and I was scrolling

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<v Speaker 1>through my x feet during the break, is a post

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<v Speaker 1>from Laura Trump. And Laura Trump just did a fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>job as co chair of the of the Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 1>and she writes this, Serving as the GOP co chair

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the course of the most consequential election in American

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<v Speaker 1>history has truly been the honor of my life. At

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<v Speaker 1>the RNC, we had three distinct goals. Number one, surpass

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<v Speaker 1>all fundraising records. Number two, build the largest army of

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers and poll watchers to ensure election integrity. Number three,

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<v Speaker 1>turn out millions of Americans and low propensity voters during

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<v Speaker 1>early voting. We accomplished all three. The job I came

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<v Speaker 1>to do is now complete, and I intend to formally

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<v Speaker 1>step down from the RNC at our next meeting. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to our incredible team at the RNC. You are amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course thank you, President Trump. Proud of you,

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<v Speaker 1>grateful you trusted me for this position. So Laura Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>who went in as a co chair of the RNC,

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<v Speaker 1>and at least by the way I see it, just

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job and made sure that this election

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<v Speaker 1>was going to go. And she did the job that

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<v Speaker 1>I said that the RNC have been doing a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago. And so she's announcing that she is preparing

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<v Speaker 1>to step down from the RNC. And what may be

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<v Speaker 1>next maybe Senator from Florida, Marco Rubio will likely be

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<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of State and there'll be an open seat,

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<v Speaker 1>and if she became a senator, I think that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a pretty good thing. Six fifteen Dan Carolyn for

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas on fifty five KRC the talk station.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty five KRC dot com run a business.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five KRC the talk Station, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I mentioned brad Westrom's going to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>In the seven o'clock hour, the Select, the Select Subcommittee

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<v Speaker 1>on the coronavirus pandemic wrapped up. It's to your investigation

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<v Speaker 1>and the report is out, and brad Winstrop was the

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<v Speaker 1>chair of that and here's what he wrote to Congress

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<v Speaker 1>about this. The COVID nineteen pandemic highlighted a distrust in leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust has earned accountability, transparency, honesty, and integrity will regain

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<v Speaker 1>this trust. So he's trying to tell future Congresses and

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<v Speaker 1>future governments how they need to go about their business. Transparency, honesty, accountability, integrity.

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<v Speaker 1>We are in short supply of those things right now.

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<v Speaker 1>A future pandemic requires a whole of American response managed

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<v Speaker 1>by those without personal benefit or bias. We can always

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<v Speaker 1>do better, and for the sake of future generations of Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>we must it can be done.

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<v Speaker 3>So he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not just looking at what happened with the Wuhan virus.

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<v Speaker 1>He's looking ahead and essentially saying that these things that

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<v Speaker 1>are laid out in the report simply cannot happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>And it, I mean, it goes on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 1>It talks about the funding, It talks about all the

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<v Speaker 1>money that went out the door, talks about the failures

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<v Speaker 1>of the NIH National Institutes of Health, talks about what

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<v Speaker 1>Fauci did. And that's one of the things when he

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<v Speaker 1>gets in here, I want to discuss what Fauci did,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I mean, it's a five hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>page report, and I think that there's probably a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of dots in that report that if somebody wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go through and look at all this and look at

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<v Speaker 1>what Fauci did, Joe, is is Fauci being looked at

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<v Speaker 1>for for prosecution at all? Have you?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he deserves to be I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening, though, And I really I can't recall if

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<v Speaker 1>there's been any talk about anyone in the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>who was looking to do that. But but I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's clear and convincing evidence that Fauci lied before

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<v Speaker 1>Congress during the multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>That he that he testified.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and then and then this report goes on

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<v Speaker 1>they talk about doctor David Morens, Fauci senior advisor Morans

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<v Speaker 1>deliberately obstructed the Seleptica Committee's investigation, likely lied to Congress

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<v Speaker 1>on multiple occasions, unlawfully deleted federal COVID nineteen records.

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<v Speaker 3>And that has.

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<v Speaker 1>That has been happening a lot lately over the last

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<v Speaker 1>several years, when you have people in positions and they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're being investigated, and it looks like the walls are closing.

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<v Speaker 1>In what happens well, records get deleted and this is

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<v Speaker 1>this seems like this is part of the course. They

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what New York did, led by Governor Kathy Hochel.

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<v Speaker 1>New York obstructed in their investigation, redacted documents, offered numerous

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<v Speaker 1>illegitimate privileged claims, withheld thousands of documents without an apparent

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<v Speaker 1>legal basis to obstruct the Select Subcommittee's investigation into Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo's pandemic era failures. And then I believe they've also

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<v Speaker 1>recommended Andrew Cuomo for criminal investigation based on what he

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<v Speaker 1>did with the nursing home situations there. Evinex suggests mister

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo knowingly and wilfully made false statements to the Select

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<v Speaker 1>Committee on numerous occasions about material aspects of New York's

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen nursing home disaster and the ensuing cover up.

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<v Speaker 1>The Select Committee referred mister Cuomo to the DOJ for

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<v Speaker 1>criminal prosecution. And this is another element of this that

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<v Speaker 1>was being called out in real time. The whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you would send people to a nursing home and

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<v Speaker 1>weren't we told, didn't we know early on that the elderly,

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<v Speaker 1>those who have already compromised immune systems, those who were

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<v Speaker 1>in failing health were the most vulnerable. And the notion

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to send people that we know to

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<v Speaker 1>be infected with the wuhan are supposed to go to

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<v Speaker 1>nursing homes. And wasn't there a giant ship that was

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<v Speaker 1>sent to New York, one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Navies medical ships, floating hospital giant ship wasn't wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>idea to send people with who were infected with the

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<v Speaker 1>wuhan to this ship for treatment seemed like a good

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<v Speaker 1>idea to me. That way you know where all the

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<v Speaker 1>wuhan people are. But that's not what they wound up doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and so much of this stuff happened in

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<v Speaker 1>New York sending people to nursing homes, and CUOMO has

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<v Speaker 1>been referred to the j for criminal prosecution. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that stuff we will get into the next

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<v Speaker 1>hour when brad Winstrip is here, and I encourage you

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<v Speaker 1>to stick around for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I am certainly looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Six fifty five kr V talk Stations fifty five krc

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<v Speaker 1>DE talk station Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, get back

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the audio cuts. Here, shall we let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what here's uh, here's Joe Biden and whenever anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the world happens, what's his for reaction. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>spend some money on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And here he is.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe he did this on Sunday, talking about what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in Syria, and he's ready to start writing some

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<v Speaker 1>checks cut number eleven.

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<v Speaker 11>With a new constitution, new governor serves all Sirians. This

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<v Speaker 11>process to be determined by the Syrian people themselves, right.

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<v Speaker 11>The United States will do whatever we can to support them,

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<v Speaker 11>including through humanitarian relief, to help restore Syria after more

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<v Speaker 11>than a decade of war and generation to brutality.

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<v Speaker 2>By this sod family.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah yeah, so what does that mean? We're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>start spending money. That is fantastic, you know they Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden already partner up with the Taliban in Afghanistan billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars out the door there, And how's that working out?

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<v Speaker 1>How's how's things especially for women in Afghanistan? How are

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<v Speaker 1>things looking there? And he's ready to partner up with

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<v Speaker 1>terror us once again in Syria. That is fantastic. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he said something about I'm not exactly sure what

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying in this cut. You you listen to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you tell me. This was part of what Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden had to say about Syria yesterday, and Joe, let's

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<v Speaker 1>here cut number ten.

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<v Speaker 11>We will help stability resure stability in Eastern Syria, protecting

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<v Speaker 11>any personnel our personnel against any threats, and will remain

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<v Speaker 11>our mission against IS suppos be maintained, including the security

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<v Speaker 11>of detention facilities where ISIS fighters are being held in.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened

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<v Speaker 3>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you tell me. I mean he got a little

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<v Speaker 1>loss with a teleprompter there. God, it's gonna it really

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<v Speaker 1>is time for this guy to go. Kristin Walker was

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<v Speaker 1>talking with Donald Trump on Meet the Press on Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>and she had a hard time understanding tariffs. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>hear or we're gonna hear it. Let's hear two cuts here.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, cut number three, let's hear this one.

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<v Speaker 8>Are you actually going to impose these tariffs or are

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<v Speaker 8>they a negotiating tax?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll give you an example with Canada and in

853
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<v Speaker 4>particular Mexico, we have millions of people pouring into our country,

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<v Speaker 4>you agree with that. I spoke with the both I

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<v Speaker 4>spoke with the Justin Trudeau.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he flew to mar A Lago within.

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<v Speaker 4>About fifteen seconds after the call, and he was at

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<v Speaker 4>mar Lago.

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<v Speaker 2>We're having dinner talking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, you have to close up your borders because

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<v Speaker 4>they're coming in the northern border to a lot, not

862
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<v Speaker 4>like the southern border, but they're coming in the Canadian

863
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:51.440
<v Speaker 4>border a lot. And drugs are pouring in almost as importantly,

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<v Speaker 4>drugs are poring in, maybe more importantly, drugs are pouring

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<v Speaker 4>in at levels never seen before, ten times what we had.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just pouring in. We can't have open borders. And

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<v Speaker 4>I said to the President of Mexico and to Justin Trudeau,

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<v Speaker 4>if it doesn't stop, I'm going to put tariffs on

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<v Speaker 4>your country at about twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Trump went on to further explain what tariffs

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<v Speaker 1>are used for cut number four thing to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do with other things. Tariffs.

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<v Speaker 4>I have stopped wars with tariffs by saying, you guys

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<v Speaker 4>want to fight, it's great, but both of you are

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<v Speaker 4>going to pay tariffs to the United States at one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred percent. And they have many purposes tariffs if properly used.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't say you use them like a madman. I

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<v Speaker 4>say properly used. But it didn't cost this country anything.

879
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:44.960
<v Speaker 4>It made this country money. And we never really got

880
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<v Speaker 4>the chance to go all out because we had to

881
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<v Speaker 4>fight COVID in the last part and we did it

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<v Speaker 4>very successfully.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I handed it over to Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>The stock market was higher than what it was just

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<v Speaker 4>previous to COVID coming in was actually higher. Tariffs are

886
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<v Speaker 4>a properly is are very powerful tool, not only economically

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<v Speaker 4>but also for getting other things outside of economics.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty good explanation of Trump and how he

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<v Speaker 1>plans to use terraffs as a way to negotiate, as

891
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a way to get what he wants. And all we

892
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<v Speaker 1>see is all these tariffs they're going to cost and

893
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<v Speaker 1>it's going to mean what I saw. I've seen numbers

894
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:36.800
<v Speaker 1>anywhere between twenty five hundred and four ten thousand dollars

895
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.599
<v Speaker 1>a year more for the average American family because of

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00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:45.599
<v Speaker 1>these terriffs, not exactly, not exactly. So we'll see how

897
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<v Speaker 1>it goes. But Trump is going to be very busy

898
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<v Speaker 1>on day one, not just with terroriffs, with doing a

899
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:53.000
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of other stuff. Here's Trump talking about day

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<v Speaker 1>one cut number five.

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<v Speaker 8>I understand that on day one you're going to be

902
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<v Speaker 8>signing a flurry executive orders. Can you give me just

903
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<v Speaker 8>what are the top ones people should know about?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't will have to do with economics.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot's going to have to do with energy, A

906
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:08.440
<v Speaker 4>lot's going to do with having to.

907
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<v Speaker 2>Do with the border.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to immediately strengthen up the border and do

909
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:15.880
<v Speaker 4>a real job, and some of the basics.

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<v Speaker 1>So the executive orders are going to come fast and

911
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:23.840
<v Speaker 1>furious on day one. And I'm telling you what I

912
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:26.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, Joe, But January twenty, I can't

913
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:30.719
<v Speaker 1>get here fast enough. I look, we're going to have

914
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.239
<v Speaker 1>more pardons from Biden, more money going out the door

915
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>from Biden. You got Barack Obama out there making speeches.

916
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:42.519
<v Speaker 1>The guy has lost all the juice that he used

917
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<v Speaker 1>to have. Kamala Harris came out over the late last

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<v Speaker 1>week and made a speech to a group, and she's

919
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<v Speaker 1>in total obscurity.

920
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:53.079
<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all that stuff, but it's good. I mean,

922
00:57:57.760 --> 00:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>when you're sitting behind this microphone, the way things are

923
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<v Speaker 1>going right now, Normally, this period between Thanksgiving and Christmas

924
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:08.960
<v Speaker 1>in the New year is usually just dead for news.

925
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<v Speaker 1>It's it's the most dreaded time of year. But with

926
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<v Speaker 1>this guy around, with the Trumpster around, there's no shortage

927
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:17.119
<v Speaker 1>of stuff to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta love it.

929
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<v Speaker 1>A little bit late for a break here, so let's

930
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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and do that now. On fifty five KRC,

931
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<v Speaker 1>the Talk stays this has.

932
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<v Speaker 3>Been proving the Way Family.

933
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<v Speaker 1>Six thirty nine On this Monday morning, Dan Carol for

934
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<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas.

935
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<v Speaker 3>Joe. Brian's back tomorrow, is he not?

936
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<v Speaker 5>He is?

937
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<v Speaker 3>So that's good.

938
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<v Speaker 1>But in the seven o'clock hour, be talking with brad

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<v Speaker 1>Winstroup about his committee's work on well looking into the

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<v Speaker 1>Wuhan virus. Nancy Mays got a visit from some cancer patients,

941
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<v Speaker 1>at least they're staff did and transgender activists. They made

942
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<v Speaker 1>a stop at Nancy Grace's office last week and apparently

943
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<v Speaker 1>one of them told her staffer that sex based bathrooms

944
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<v Speaker 1>are bad because cancer patients lose their hair.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that has to do. I guess

946
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<v Speaker 3>this room is now dumber for having listened to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, May said that these people came to my office yesterday,

948
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<v Speaker 1>one of them told my staff it's bad to have

949
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<v Speaker 1>sex based bathrooms because cancer patients lose their hair and

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<v Speaker 1>can look like the wrong sex. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>anyone losing their hair has anything to do with which

952
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<v Speaker 1>bathroom you use, especially at the Capitol, since the Speaker

953
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<v Speaker 1>has said that if you're if you're a man, you

954
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<v Speaker 1>use the men's room, if you're a woman, you use

955
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<v Speaker 1>the lady's room. It seems pretty cut and dried to me.

956
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<v Speaker 1>But of course, the world we live in today, it's

957
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<v Speaker 1>all very complicated. Five hundred is the is the number

958
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<v Speaker 1>to call. Tim Walls did a little interview over the weekend,

959
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<v Speaker 1>said that he's surprised that Americans rejected the positive message

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01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:06.159
<v Speaker 1>that him and Kamala Harris were offering. The the American

961
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:10.519
<v Speaker 1>people surprised that they lost, and the lesson learned from

962
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:13.079
<v Speaker 1>the humbling defeat seems very clear. He blames America for

963
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:18.199
<v Speaker 1>not understanding the campaign's positive message. Anyone want to tell

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01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:23.119
<v Speaker 1>me what that positive message was. Not exactly sure what

965
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:26.800
<v Speaker 1>he means by that, but that's you know, that's what

966
01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:31.320
<v Speaker 1>he uh, That's what he did. That's his story and

967
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 1>he's sticking with it. We had a positive message. I

968
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:37.400
<v Speaker 1>can't remember what it was, but it sure was positive.

969
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Christen Welker didn't think that doesn't think that Trump has

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01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:45.239
<v Speaker 1>a positive message. And so the themes that she hit

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<v Speaker 1>on during the interview were the twenty twenty election, deporting families,

972
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and then going after his political opponents. And so I

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01:00:57.480 --> 01:00:59.800
<v Speaker 1>got a couple of cuts here on that one. And

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01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:03.960
<v Speaker 1>essentially Trump is saying, look, I've got bigger fish to

975
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:08.559
<v Speaker 1>fry if Pam Bondy gets in there as Attorney General,

976
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:13.639
<v Speaker 1>cash battel at FBI. He's essentially saying that they are

977
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<v Speaker 1>going to do what they're going to do, which I

978
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 1>think is a great thing. Trump should not get bogged

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01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:20.760
<v Speaker 1>down in all this stuff. He's got to leave that

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<v Speaker 1>to the other people. He wants to go after the

981
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:29.119
<v Speaker 1>big ticket items. He wants to go after the economy,

982
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:33.760
<v Speaker 1>drill for oil, deportations, that sort of thing here he

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01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 1>is talking about. He's going to the people that are

984
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:38.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be working for him, let them do that job.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut number seven.

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<v Speaker 4>If they think that somebody was dishonest, crookeet or corrupt politician.

987
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I think he probably has an obligation to do it.

988
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:49.480
<v Speaker 4>But are you going to direct him to do no,

989
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:51.599
<v Speaker 4>not at all, not at all. We have two great

990
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:54.920
<v Speaker 4>people that we have him and we have Pam. Pam

991
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:57.639
<v Speaker 4>Bondi has been like a rocket ship. So he's very

992
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:00.679
<v Speaker 4>popular and very good and very fair. And Cash Betel

993
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:03.719
<v Speaker 4>is very fair. I'll tell you. I thought Cash may

994
01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:09.079
<v Speaker 4>be difficult because he's a strong conservative voice, and I

995
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:10.960
<v Speaker 4>don't know if anybody.

996
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:11.679
<v Speaker 2>That's not singing his praises.

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01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:14.360
<v Speaker 4>The other day I was watching and Trey Gowdy, who's

998
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:18.000
<v Speaker 4>a moderate person and very smart and very respected in

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01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 4>the party.

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01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:20.960
<v Speaker 2>He's Cash's biggest fan.

1001
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:25.079
<v Speaker 4>He said, this is the most misunderstood man in politics.

1002
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:28.039
<v Speaker 2>He's great. I guess they work together on the Russia.

1003
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Hoax or something, and I think Trump's right about that.

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01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I had a piece last week. I was looking at

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01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Cash Cash Bettel's resume, and I mean, this guy has

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01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:44.079
<v Speaker 1>done a lot of stuff when it comes to dealing

1007
01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:48.840
<v Speaker 1>with national security and different positions that he's held throughout

1008
01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:51.960
<v Speaker 1>his career. So I think this guy would be perfect

1009
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:56.159
<v Speaker 1>and great at the FBI. But here's Kristen Welker just

1010
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 1>does not want to let these things go. She's worried

1011
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:03.760
<v Speaker 1>about Trump seeking out and doing damage to his political opponents.

1012
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And here's how Trump dealt with that kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Number eight.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really looking to make our country successful. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>looking to go back into the past. I'm looking to

1016
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:18.880
<v Speaker 4>make our country successful. Retribution will be through success. If

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01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:21.599
<v Speaker 4>we can make our success, is this country successful, that

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01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:25.119
<v Speaker 4>would be my greatest That would be such a great achievement.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring it back.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a country now that's overridden with crime, that

1021
01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:32.119
<v Speaker 4>has millions of people that shouldn't be here, that should

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01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:34.199
<v Speaker 4>be in prisons in other countries, that should be in

1023
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:37.719
<v Speaker 4>mental institutions. We have drug lords being dropped into our

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01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.320
<v Speaker 4>country un told never go back to their country. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>looking to make our country great. I'm looking to get

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<v Speaker 4>bring prices down because you know, I want on two things,

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<v Speaker 4>the border and more than immigration.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they like to say immigration. I break it.

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<v Speaker 4>Down more to the border. But I want on the

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<v Speaker 4>border and I want on groceries. It's very simple word, groceries.

1031
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<v Speaker 1>Very simple word, groceries. Everybody's got to have groceries. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it was about, gas prices and groceries. And

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has not forgotten that. And I think that's a

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01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:14.480
<v Speaker 1>good thing. As this thing moves on down the tracks

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01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:18.519
<v Speaker 1>as fantastic. So the interview yesterday with Welker was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>He put her in her place, held his line, and

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<v Speaker 1>just shoved so much to this back in her face.

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<v Speaker 1>So a big win for Trump. On Meet the Press

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<v Speaker 1>six forty five. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas on fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five KRC, the Talk station six fifty on this Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas. I've been teasing it all morning.

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<v Speaker 1>The brad Winstrop is going to be here in the

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<v Speaker 1>seven o'clock hour. But I should not be surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>a military man is here early, showing up early.

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<v Speaker 3>Here army time, brad oh, seven hundred. But you're here early,

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<v Speaker 3>brad Winster. How are you? I'm doing all right.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the seven o'clock hour we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about your report, which is good, but this gives me

1049
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:07.400
<v Speaker 1>a little time to what to talk about you and

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<v Speaker 1>your time in DC is coming to an end. You

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01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:12.599
<v Speaker 1>announced that you were not going to run for re

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<v Speaker 1>election and what's that process been like.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, it's been different. I mean, by and large, it

1054
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<v Speaker 12>didn't feel any different until after the election. Yeah, after

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<v Speaker 12>the election in November, then you suddenly felt that when

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<v Speaker 12>you feel the finality of it, well, yeah, and you

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01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:29.559
<v Speaker 12>feel that, like you know, for a lot of things,

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01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:32.679
<v Speaker 12>you just don't matter anymore. And you start to see

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01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:35.039
<v Speaker 12>all these new people showing up because a lot of

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<v Speaker 12>the new members are around and they haven't been sworn

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<v Speaker 12>in yet. But there's just a lot of things. But

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<v Speaker 12>by and large, I had things that I've been working

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<v Speaker 12>on trying to get into our final packages, which of course,

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01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:49.480
<v Speaker 12>it would be a whole lot easier if we just

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<v Speaker 12>didn't throw everything into one big pale at the end

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<v Speaker 12>of the year. Instead did things a little by little.

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<v Speaker 12>But wrapping up this two years of the pandemic Select

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<v Speaker 12>Subcommittee has really been all encompassing. I mean, we put

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<v Speaker 12>together a five hundred and twenty page report, you know,

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01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:11.559
<v Speaker 12>but other than that, it's been kind of business as usual,

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01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:14.599
<v Speaker 12>except you know, now for this last month or so,

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01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:17.239
<v Speaker 12>you have no office. They give you a cubicle in

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01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:20.880
<v Speaker 12>the basement, and you know, you've still got some staff around.

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<v Speaker 12>Some have moved on, but most of ours have said

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01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:27.519
<v Speaker 12>I'll take my next job when we're finished, and so

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<v Speaker 12>that's been good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's different.

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<v Speaker 12>And since I had the Select Subcommittee, I have an

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<v Speaker 12>office to go to where others might not. But you know,

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<v Speaker 12>it's bittersweet, for sure. I have no regrets at the

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01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:44.679
<v Speaker 12>twelve years of serving in Congress. It's been a huge honor.

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<v Speaker 12>It's messier, messier than it needs to be by far,

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<v Speaker 12>but in a lot of ways, we quietly got a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of things done that never made headlines, and I'm

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<v Speaker 12>proud of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean that's usually the case, you know. I've

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01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.559
<v Speaker 1>been to Washington a handful of times and spend a

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01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:01.800
<v Speaker 1>little time walking around the halls of Congress and some

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01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.320
<v Speaker 1>of the office buildings there, which are just I mean,

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01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:08.239
<v Speaker 1>it really is just being there and seeing all that.

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01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:11.440
<v Speaker 1>It really is a special place. And I think so

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01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:15.199
<v Speaker 1>many people get the wrong idea about DC because we

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01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:18.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about it in such negatives way, in negative ways,

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01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:20.239
<v Speaker 1>but I mean in so many ways. I mean, it

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01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:24.599
<v Speaker 1>really is a swamp. It really is so despicable the

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<v Speaker 1>way things are run in this government these days.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's got to be aspects of.

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<v Speaker 1>It that when when I mean when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at how just how how great it is and

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<v Speaker 1>how meaningful it is to really be there on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it absolutely is.

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<v Speaker 12>And you know, the American people don't get the full

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01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:44.760
<v Speaker 12>perception because, uh, you know, I was asked a little

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01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:48.440
<v Speaker 12>roundtable with it was departing members three of US, one Democrat,

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01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:52.519
<v Speaker 12>two Republicans, and they moderator said, what can be done

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<v Speaker 12>to calm some of the chaos? I said, I think

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01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:57.360
<v Speaker 12>it would make a difference if the media paid more

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01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:00.159
<v Speaker 12>attention to those that actually got things across the finish

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<v Speaker 12>line than those that never do. Because truthfully, by and large,

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01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:06.760
<v Speaker 12>the people that you see day in and day out

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01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:10.800
<v Speaker 12>that are rowdy, et cetera, they really have they don't

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01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:13.400
<v Speaker 12>usually get something done. They don't pass bills, they don't

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01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:17.279
<v Speaker 12>take away bills, they don't stop regulations there you know,

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01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:19.359
<v Speaker 12>and that that is a problem. But I think the

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<v Speaker 12>bigger problem we have today is something that didn't exist

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01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:26.520
<v Speaker 12>with our with our founders. When our country was founded,

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<v Speaker 12>we had three agencies, State, Treasury, and war.

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<v Speaker 3>That was it.

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<v Speaker 12>I changed my mind on term limits because if you've

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01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:38.239
<v Speaker 12>just if you're only their two terms, you never establish

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<v Speaker 12>enough street cred if you will to do to do

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01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:43.760
<v Speaker 12>things right. But in the agencies, those are the people

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01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.479
<v Speaker 12>that never leave and they're not elected. That's where we

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01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.600
<v Speaker 12>need to make change. It should be like the military.

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<v Speaker 12>If you get if you don't get promoted, you're out,

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01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:56.600
<v Speaker 12>and when you reach the top, you're term limited. We

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<v Speaker 12>have people that nest there forever and they're controlling way

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<v Speaker 12>too much.

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<v Speaker 1>And see when I look at at DOJE okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Government Efficiency, the aik Raamaswami and Elon Musk,

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01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 1>when I hear them talk, that's what I hear them

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01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.399
<v Speaker 1>concentrating on the bloat in the federal government and they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, there's what two hundred and summer

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01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:19.960
<v Speaker 1>five hundred some agencies right now. They're talking about, we

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01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:22.760
<v Speaker 1>can take this down to ninety nine. And essentially they're

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01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:25.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about the apparatus of government that spends so much money.

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<v Speaker 1>All you hear in the media is, oh, they want

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01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:29.680
<v Speaker 1>to cut Medicare, they want to cut Social Security, they

1140
01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:32.479
<v Speaker 1>want to cut you know, all these entitlement programs. I

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01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:34.680
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard them talk about that at all. They're talking

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01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:37.720
<v Speaker 1>about government efficiency, and that's a great place to start.

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01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:41.119
<v Speaker 1>If you can streamline things and make things more efficient, right,

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01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:43.920
<v Speaker 1>efficiencies right there in the name. I think that's an

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01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:44.800
<v Speaker 1>important first step.

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<v Speaker 12>It's not bad to have some of the things. But

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01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:49.119
<v Speaker 12>are they working, and what does success look like? You

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01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:51.199
<v Speaker 12>go to just go to the website and look at

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01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:54.920
<v Speaker 12>Health and Human Services and all the sub agencies that

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01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:57.279
<v Speaker 12>are part of that, and you look at that and say,

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01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:00.760
<v Speaker 12>what are these people doing that are making us a

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01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:04.199
<v Speaker 12>healthier nation? Because that's really what that agency should be about.

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<v Speaker 12>And work with Congress that we put things in place. Look,

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01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:10.880
<v Speaker 12>I'm glad to have a country with safety nets, but

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01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:16.000
<v Speaker 12>success means fewer people needing them. That's what success looks like,

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01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:17.760
<v Speaker 12>not putting more people into problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you even in your report you talk about the

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01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:24.920
<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars that that got wasted during the whole

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01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the whole COVID episode. Absolutely, when when when we look

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01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:30.640
<v Speaker 1>at that and act like that, you know, there's a

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01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:32.800
<v Speaker 1>few billion here, a few billions, they're not that big

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01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:33.279
<v Speaker 1>of a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>That that mindset needs to change.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know what, what the work you

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01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:39.880
<v Speaker 1>did on that may be one of the first steps

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<v Speaker 1>in the sort of change in that mindset.

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<v Speaker 12>This should be a roadmap. This should We'll talk about

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01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.560
<v Speaker 12>the more, but this should be a roadmap to the future.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, get it to a break here.

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<v Speaker 1>News coming up top of the hour and then we

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<v Speaker 1>will continue on with Congressman Can I still.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll always be able to call you Congressman or Bread even.

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<v Speaker 1>During the entire seven o'clock hour, and we invite you

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01:10:59.079 --> 01:11:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to stick around for that, and maybe maybe we'll take

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01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:03.880
<v Speaker 1>a call or too, maybe later on that'll be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Five three seven, five hundred, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five KRS, The talk Station.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty five KRC, the talk Station. This report is sponsored

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five KRC, the Talk Station. Rainy Monday Morning, Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Carroll in for Brian Thomas. Brian Thomas is back tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>so we are all looking forward to that. And as

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<v Speaker 1>promised earlier in this show, we are going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>the seven o'clock hour with Congressman brad Winstrip and he

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<v Speaker 1>and his Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic have just

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01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:55.079
<v Speaker 1>wrapped up a two year investigation into COVID nineteen, or

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01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:58.079
<v Speaker 1>as I like to refer to it, the Wuhan and

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<v Speaker 1>brad Winstrip is here and Brad weinstp how are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing all right? It's good to see. How about

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01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:10.319
<v Speaker 3>those Bengals. Well, h we have an offense. Yeah, that's fact.

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01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean think about that.

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01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.079
<v Speaker 1>You got to go out and there they're saying that, Look,

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01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:16.239
<v Speaker 1>you guys got to score forty points every game if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have a chance to win it, and

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01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:19.720
<v Speaker 1>say it's unbelievable. Well, they got some work to do

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01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:21.760
<v Speaker 1>in the off season. Oh it's not off season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, darn it. Well when the off season.

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<v Speaker 2>Good.

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<v Speaker 1>That can't get here faster and January twenty I can't

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01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:30.760
<v Speaker 1>get here fast enough either. But you know what, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for coming in. It's great. It's great to see you again.

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01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:36.079
<v Speaker 1>It's been a little while. But I mean you look good.

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01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:38.640
<v Speaker 1>You look like you've got a little bit of weight

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<v Speaker 1>taking off your shoulders.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, yeah, this this two year's log is really not

1208
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<v Speaker 12>just a two year's log of the Select Subcommittee. But

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<v Speaker 12>it's been five years. You know, I sit on Intelligence

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<v Speaker 12>Committee and I can remember during lockdown, another doctor in

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01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:57.319
<v Speaker 12>Ohio was calling me and he was calling infectious disease

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01:12:57.359 --> 01:12:59.640
<v Speaker 12>doctors in China. We were looking at how do we

1213
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:02.640
<v Speaker 12>treat the what's going on? You know, this thing's novel

1214
01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:05.239
<v Speaker 12>called that for a reason, no one knew quite what

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<v Speaker 12>to do. We were learning what we could learn from

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01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:11.520
<v Speaker 12>from lab work from cts and you know, what's the

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<v Speaker 12>best way to try and treat this. But in the

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<v Speaker 12>process we started sharing other things that we were discovering

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<v Speaker 12>online and one of the things was an article from

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01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:24.079
<v Speaker 12>twenty fifteen. He said, take a look at this, and

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<v Speaker 12>it was Ralph Berrick in North Carolina, Zengli She and Wuhan, China,

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<v Speaker 12>and they had created kaimeras in the lab. They had

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<v Speaker 12>taken parts of different viruses, made new viruses and made

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01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:40.960
<v Speaker 12>them more pathogenic to human beings. I mean, this was unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 12>and my first thought is bioweapons. That was when I

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<v Speaker 12>saw that. That was my first thought. I'm on intelligence committee.

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<v Speaker 12>I've been looking at our adversaries bioweapons for some time

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01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:55.199
<v Speaker 12>before COVID Our State Department in two thousand and five

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01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:59.439
<v Speaker 12>said that China has a bioweapons program. In twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 12>they published to book in China about making coronavirus bioweapons.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, what more do you need? And public statements

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<v Speaker 12>by Chinese scientists about, you know, the possibility of coronaviruses

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<v Speaker 12>being bioweapons, it was all there. So my concern went

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01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:20.960
<v Speaker 12>way up in this situation, and then you know, you

1235
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:24.079
<v Speaker 12>start to uncover things that like we're actually doing gain

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01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:28.000
<v Speaker 12>of function research in Wuhan, China, which is the idea

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<v Speaker 12>of making something more infectious to humans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unbelievable. How did we get here?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and so you know, I've been looking at all

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<v Speaker 12>this stuff, and several people on Intelligence Committee especially, and

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<v Speaker 12>you know, we got a five hundred and twenty page

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01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:47.199
<v Speaker 12>report that's the unclassified version. You know, we've got more

1243
01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:50.960
<v Speaker 12>on the other side and on the classified side. But

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<v Speaker 12>let me the overarching thing to all of this is

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<v Speaker 12>one China's cover up so obvious. They got rid of

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01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:02.960
<v Speaker 12>sequence as samples, they wouldn't let people in theirs was

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<v Speaker 12>a very clear cover up. They sent me a letter

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<v Speaker 12>when we started the Select Subcommittee saying they have grave

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<v Speaker 12>concerns that we're even looking into the origins of COVID.

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<v Speaker 12>You know this, this has already been settled by China

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<v Speaker 12>was concerned that you were doing your own investigation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>they sort of frowned on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>I wrote them back and I said, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't think you're going to dictate what we investigate

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<v Speaker 12>your state. No, But but then they said, this is

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<v Speaker 12>already done by scientists. I said, well, we have seven

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<v Speaker 12>physicians on here, and we're bringing in scientists. And I

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<v Speaker 12>named five of theirs that I'd like to see and

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<v Speaker 12>one of them, I said, if still alive, if you

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<v Speaker 12>if you get my drift there, But that that's how

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<v Speaker 12>they operate. But it wasn't just their cover up. It

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<v Speaker 12>was a cover up within our own government.

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<v Speaker 1>And then to me, that's mean. And I looked at you,

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01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:51.319
<v Speaker 1>look at all the elements of this, and it is

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01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:54.199
<v Speaker 1>one scandal after another. I mean, each one of these

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01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:58.439
<v Speaker 1>things by itself is a huge scandal onto itself. But

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01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you pile one on top of the other, on top

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01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:04.079
<v Speaker 1>of the other, and the American people hear about this

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01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and their eyes start to glaze over because it's just

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01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:09.720
<v Speaker 1>so much. It really, I mean, it really is. And

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<v Speaker 1>each one of these it is absolutely jaw dropping the

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01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:14.680
<v Speaker 1>way you put it in the report. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get too far down this road, let's go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning. I think there was a sense in Congress

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<v Speaker 1>from the very beginning that we want to have an investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to look into this. This investigation two years

1278
01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you spent on it would not have happened, but for

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01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Republicans taking control of the House in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 12>That's absolutely true, and as a matter of fact, the

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<v Speaker 12>minority during this said, we were spending a lot of

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01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:43.960
<v Speaker 12>time on things that we shouldn't be looking into. And

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<v Speaker 12>I called this from the very beginning, using my military background,

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<v Speaker 12>this is an after action review. We're looking at lessons

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01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:54.960
<v Speaker 12>learned and we're going to plan out a path forward

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01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:58.279
<v Speaker 12>so that we are ready equipped and able to go

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<v Speaker 12>the next time this something like this happens, and there

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01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:03.560
<v Speaker 12>will be a next time. The other cover up though,

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<v Speaker 12>of the three, if you will, we're international scientists that

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01:17:08.039 --> 01:17:11.079
<v Speaker 12>wanted to steer everyone away from a lab leak theory

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01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:14.239
<v Speaker 12>and only look at the possibility of nature. And in

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01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:17.520
<v Speaker 12>their internal documents they're saying, all right, we're going to

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01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 12>write this article and our job is to disprove the

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<v Speaker 12>lab leak theory. They don't even talk about the lab

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01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:25.399
<v Speaker 12>leak as the theory. They only talk about nature. And

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<v Speaker 12>in their internal documents they're saying, we can't rule out

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01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:31.960
<v Speaker 12>that it's engineered. This thing sure looks engineered. We started

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01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:34.840
<v Speaker 12>to get all that information through Freedom of Information Act

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<v Speaker 12>and then are subpoenas.

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<v Speaker 1>But so many times when you have and one of

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<v Speaker 1>my big issues when you have when you government in general,

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01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:45.600
<v Speaker 1>but when you're when you have a committee, when you

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01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:49.359
<v Speaker 1>have an investigation like this, far too often before the

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01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:52.960
<v Speaker 1>work even begins, there's a there's an outcome or a

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01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:57.039
<v Speaker 1>destination that seems predetermined. And this happens so many times

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington. My sense is with this commit that you

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01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.319
<v Speaker 1>did not start with a desired result, and you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>your work to lead you to that result. Am I

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01:18:07.279 --> 01:18:09.800
<v Speaker 1>right about that? That's great. I wanted to this committee

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01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:15.079
<v Speaker 1>with the idea of finding fact and exposing what really took.

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<v Speaker 12>Place and then present a path forward. And so you know,

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01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:19.920
<v Speaker 12>as I went through this, this was important to me.

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<v Speaker 12>I never mentioned political party one time in any of

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01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:25.479
<v Speaker 12>our writings or in a conversation. We did not mention

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01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:29.359
<v Speaker 12>political party on our side because it was about finding facts.

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<v Speaker 12>But what actually happened, Dan is every time we looked

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01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.319
<v Speaker 12>under a rock, there was another rock to look under. Yeah,

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01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:37.079
<v Speaker 12>and another rock to look under. So yeah, we're going

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01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:39.239
<v Speaker 12>to look at EcoHealth Alliance, who was doing gain of

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<v Speaker 12>function research in China. Well, as we're looking through their

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01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:46.880
<v Speaker 12>stuff and their internal documents, we hear from doctor David Moorns,

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01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:50.920
<v Speaker 12>who was doctor Fauci's deputy, and he's saying things like, hey,

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01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:55.960
<v Speaker 12>write me on my Gmail because these blankety blanks are

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<v Speaker 12>foiering me, in other words, requesting documents which belonged to

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01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:03.439
<v Speaker 12>the American people. He goes, and I'll delete anything I

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01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:05.960
<v Speaker 12>don't want showing up in the New York Times. Clear

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01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:10.199
<v Speaker 12>intent to deceive the American people was right there. So

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01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:11.960
<v Speaker 12>now we look into him and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of thing is, people like Rand Paul were

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01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:17.560
<v Speaker 1>exposing this in real time, and and and when all

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01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:20.199
<v Speaker 1>this was going on, there was no sense that any

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01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:22.479
<v Speaker 1>of this needs to be investigated, none of this needs

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01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to be looked into. And again, we wouldn't be here

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01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:29.359
<v Speaker 1>today had it not been for a change in what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in leadership.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, Ran Paul asked the blank question, Were you doing

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<v Speaker 12>gain and function research in China?

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Fauci said no.

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<v Speaker 12>Then later he said, I was thinking of the different

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01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:46.960
<v Speaker 12>definition that suddenly that suddenly appeared on their website. I

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01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:49.840
<v Speaker 12>was thinking of a different definition. That's that's why I

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01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:51.920
<v Speaker 12>said it that way, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So, And he told him, you don't know what you're

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01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:56.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about, That's what he said, did you ever say

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01:19:56.239 --> 01:19:56.680
<v Speaker 1>that to you.

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01:19:56.680 --> 01:19:58.159
<v Speaker 3>You don't know what you're talking. No, he did know.

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<v Speaker 12>He did not because by the time I had him,

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<v Speaker 12>By the time I had and we had a pretty

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01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:06.000
<v Speaker 12>idea what we were talking about, and he knew and

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01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:11.840
<v Speaker 12>understood that and respected that, I think throughout and you know, look,

1351
01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:15.279
<v Speaker 12>we got him going from where he had publicly said,

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01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:18.079
<v Speaker 12>you know, it's a conspiracy theory if you say it

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01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:21.319
<v Speaker 12>came from the lab to no, it's not a conspiracy theory.

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01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:24.159
<v Speaker 3>Doctor Collins the same thing. But look, here's the motive.

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<v Speaker 12>In twenty eleven and twenty twelve, you know, you got

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01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:30.800
<v Speaker 12>articles by Fauci and Collins bragging about gain to function

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01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:34.479
<v Speaker 12>research being a great tool, and their idea was that

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01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:38.199
<v Speaker 12>they could create a virus and that they think will

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01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:41.239
<v Speaker 12>come out of nature eventually, and if we already have

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01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:43.600
<v Speaker 12>it and can create a vaccine for it, then we're

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01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:46.000
<v Speaker 12>ahead of the game. But they were asked in twenty

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01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:49.560
<v Speaker 12>twelve doctor Fauci specifically, well aren't you concerned about it

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01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:51.680
<v Speaker 12>getting out of the lab and creating a pandemic. This

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<v Speaker 12>is in twenty twelve, and he said, well, I think

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<v Speaker 12>the benefits outweigh the risk.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, for God's sake, all right, Yeah, and how many

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01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:02.760
<v Speaker 3>million dead? That's right? That would maybe you know, frown

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<v Speaker 3>on that.

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<v Speaker 12>So when you want to say that it came from nature,

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01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:10.319
<v Speaker 12>well yeah, wash your hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the shiny object over there, don't don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at me. All right, we got to get to a break.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we come back, I want to start walking

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<v Speaker 1>through some of the specific points that you make in

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<v Speaker 1>the report, and we'll go through those one by one

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<v Speaker 1>as we spend the seven o'clock hour with Congressman Brad

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<v Speaker 1>Westerner up here on fifty five krs.

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<v Speaker 3>The Talks to fifty five krs the talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas and Brad winstropis here today

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic. To

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<v Speaker 1>your investigation has done, the report is out. You had

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01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:43.079
<v Speaker 1>a markup that happened. I believe it was Thursday last week,

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<v Speaker 1>well Wednesday, Thursday last week. And what exactly was that about?

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<v Speaker 12>The markup was just we had unanimous consent from both

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01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:56.960
<v Speaker 12>sides of the Aisle Okay to move the reports, our

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01:21:57.000 --> 01:21:58.079
<v Speaker 12>report forwards.

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<v Speaker 1>So a procedural thing more than more than any that's

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<v Speaker 1>all I was. Yeah, no, fireworks. Unfortunately, let's start with

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01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:07.399
<v Speaker 1>some of the things that jumped out at me. And

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the origin of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen, which I call the Wuhan virus. So the

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<v Speaker 1>committee finds COVID nineteen most likely emerged from a lab

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<v Speaker 1>in Wuhan, China, and you provide some of the five

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<v Speaker 1>strongest arguments in favor of the lab leak theory. One

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<v Speaker 1>that resonates with me is that the virus possesses a

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01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>biological characteristic not found in nature, and if there was

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01:22:36.640 --> 01:22:40.640
<v Speaker 1>evidence of a natural origin, it would have already surfaced.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we look at these this sort of evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>why can we not say definitively that the virus came

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<v Speaker 1>from a lab?

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01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:52.359
<v Speaker 12>Because China didn't cooperate at all, and so that's always

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01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:56.039
<v Speaker 12>going to be the unknown. And if somebody from China

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01:22:56.039 --> 01:22:59.039
<v Speaker 12>were to speak up and tell the whole story and

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01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:02.159
<v Speaker 12>tell the truth and say, you know what they thought,

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01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:05.239
<v Speaker 12>we destroyed the samples I actually have them, that person

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01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:08.960
<v Speaker 12>probably wouldn't be around very long. But that's the biggest obstruction.

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<v Speaker 12>But as John Radcliffe, who was Director of National Intelligence

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01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:16.359
<v Speaker 12>and now will be CIA director, what he said was

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01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:20.880
<v Speaker 12>true he said, nobody had more intelligence in front of

1410
01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:24.520
<v Speaker 12>them than he did. You know, from across the board,

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<v Speaker 12>and if you were to put together the forensics the evidence,

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<v Speaker 12>if you will, on one side you had arguments for nature,

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01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:38.199
<v Speaker 12>and the other side you had arguments for LAB. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>the list goes on and on for LAB and it's

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01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:42.760
<v Speaker 12>very short in nature and you've never found it, which

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01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:46.439
<v Speaker 12>usually we have. At some points you find the animal.

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<v Speaker 12>And the article that was written called Proximal Origins was

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<v Speaker 12>by a group of scientists that Fuci, Collins and a

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01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:58.239
<v Speaker 12>guy named Jeremy Farhar put together, and they even said

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01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:01.600
<v Speaker 12>in their emails that they're focus was to disprove the

1421
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:05.399
<v Speaker 12>lab leak theory when they wrote their article. And the

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<v Speaker 12>very day that doctor Fauci went on the White House

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01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:12.279
<v Speaker 12>lawn and acted surprise, like, whoa, look, here's this article

1424
01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:15.079
<v Speaker 12>which he knew was being written. He said, this article

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01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:20.399
<v Speaker 12>by these brilliant evolutionary virologists are saying that this came

1426
01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:24.520
<v Speaker 12>from this came from nature, This came from nature, and

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01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:28.079
<v Speaker 12>that should settle it right. The very day one of

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01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:31.199
<v Speaker 12>the authors of that was writing an email and he said,

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<v Speaker 12>we still can't rule out this thing as engineer.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just too much there.

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<v Speaker 12>This is what they were saying, but not what they

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01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:40.399
<v Speaker 12>presented to the public, and not what doctor Fauci presented

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01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:43.439
<v Speaker 12>to the public. And when we had doctor Fauci in

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01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:48.600
<v Speaker 12>for interview you, I said, well, you tellted this article

1435
01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:52.800
<v Speaker 12>proximal origins. I said, but you now say that it's

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<v Speaker 12>not a conspiracy theory, that it could be a lableak theory.

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<v Speaker 12>He said, did you ever talk to the authors of

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<v Speaker 12>or these articles? And I went through litany of scientific

1439
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:06.840
<v Speaker 12>articles by actual virologists that were saying, here's how you

1440
01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:09.479
<v Speaker 12>can make this in the lab, and how we believe

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01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:12.079
<v Speaker 12>it was made in the lab COVID nineteen I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 12>And he said, no, never talk to them. Well, you

1443
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:18.159
<v Speaker 12>said you had an open mind, But how can you

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01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:20.199
<v Speaker 12>say you have an open mind if you never looked

1445
01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:23.439
<v Speaker 12>into the other side and all that was out there

1446
01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:27.960
<v Speaker 12>and so but we did, But we did, and we

1447
01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:30.680
<v Speaker 12>talked to them all. We talked to people from both sides.

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<v Speaker 12>We talked to the people that said they thought it

1449
01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:35.640
<v Speaker 12>came from nature, who all hid skin in the game

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01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:39.000
<v Speaker 12>because they do this type of work, and these were

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<v Speaker 12>people involved that said things like, imagine the s show

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01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:47.840
<v Speaker 12>that will happen if people think this came from the lab.

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<v Speaker 12>And I'm paraphrasing here, but also imagine what this will

1454
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<v Speaker 12>do to international harmony and our research if it's concluded

1455
01:25:55.680 --> 01:25:58.359
<v Speaker 12>it came from the lab. They had all the motive, Dan,

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01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:02.600
<v Speaker 12>and now we discovered it. We discovered their motive. It's

1457
01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:05.520
<v Speaker 12>it's sitting right there. But they didn't think anyone would

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01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:06.560
<v Speaker 12>ever see what they were saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but this, this gave rise to this, this

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<v Speaker 1>bigger notion that the only narrative that we are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to accept, the only narrative that is uh that that

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<v Speaker 1>we will allow to be on the news, is the

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01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>one that we want that and and and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the most dangerous things that come

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<v Speaker 1>out of this, the notion that we can only accept

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<v Speaker 1>the approved government narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a of a particular Yeah, and think about this.

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<v Speaker 1>And that gets into a whole lot of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bigger things in general society.

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<v Speaker 12>I think everyone will remember when Donald Trump said We're

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<v Speaker 12>going to restrict travel. Okay, we asked doctor Puci, were

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<v Speaker 12>you in favor of that? Did you recommend that we

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<v Speaker 12>restrict travel? And he said yes, it was it was

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<v Speaker 12>a good idea, and I'm thinking, well, where were you

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<v Speaker 12>when all that was on the news and everything out

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<v Speaker 12>of the politicians from the other side of the aisle,

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<v Speaker 12>which none of this should have been political, started saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 12>that's racist and xenophobic.

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<v Speaker 3>So I asked.

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<v Speaker 12>I asked doctor Fauci, was restricting travel racist? He said no,

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<v Speaker 12>Was it xenophobic? He said no, Well why didn't you

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<v Speaker 12>say that when that became the narrative to the public.

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<v Speaker 12>You're supposed to be a public health leader, then clear

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<v Speaker 12>the record of what is actually what you recommended, by

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<v Speaker 12>the way, and so that's just another example. But we

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<v Speaker 12>saw things FDA rush for full approval of the vaccine. Look,

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<v Speaker 12>I believe the vaccine saved hundreds of thousands of lives

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<v Speaker 12>of the most vulnerable. And I was for the emergency

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<v Speaker 12>Youth Authorization authorization for those that we knew were dying.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, well, the state to hold that dog because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into the vaccine as we continue. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a ton of stuff to get to here, but

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five KRCD Talks SA seventy nine. We continue our

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Congressman brad Winstrip So the lab Leaku and

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing on the lab Leak and then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>want to move on. But in the fall of twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>months before COVID nineteen was discovered at the wet market

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<v Speaker 1>or I guess at least that narrative was out there.

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<v Speaker 1>China chose not to disclose this information that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of researchers at the Wuhan Lab who came

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<v Speaker 1>down sick with COVID nineteen. They didn't tell the United States,

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01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell the CDC, NIH World Health Organization. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is where things really start to unravel in our relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with China as it relates to this issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that accurate? Yes?

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<v Speaker 12>And for those in the arena, people were starting to

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<v Speaker 12>see rumors of a new type of pneumonia developing in China.

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<v Speaker 12>They also, as time went on, they changed their ventilation

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<v Speaker 12>system in the Wuman lab to be one that filters better.

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01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:06.600
<v Speaker 12>They had reports over time of accidents in their labs,

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01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:10.000
<v Speaker 12>and they were using for this a BSL two, which

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01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:13.760
<v Speaker 12>is a lower level of security. And even Ralph Berrick,

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<v Speaker 12>who does this type of research in North Carolina, he

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<v Speaker 12>said needs to be done at a level three or four,

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<v Speaker 12>nothing less, but there that's what was being done. And

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<v Speaker 12>then their military took over the lab. I mean, all

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<v Speaker 12>of these things are pretty good indicators of what was

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<v Speaker 12>going on. But the bottom line is President she lied.

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<v Speaker 12>He said things were in the controller light to the

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<v Speaker 12>who he manipulated, the who he lied. You know, I

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01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:41.600
<v Speaker 12>would hear people say Donald Trump lied. I not only lied,

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01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:44.960
<v Speaker 12>he just believed President She was being honest and he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 12>And quickly I think President Trump figured that outretty pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the least surprising things to me is that

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<v Speaker 1>federal and state governments were not coordinated and were unprepared

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<v Speaker 1>receive the allocation of WUHAN Relief Funds paycheck protection program

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01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>supposed to help working Americans. At least sixty four billion

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01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>dollars was lost to chislers and criminals. There another one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety one billion went down the drain through

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01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:21.439
<v Speaker 1>fraud and federal government unemployment system. So all this money

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<v Speaker 1>that was wasted when you talk about these programs that

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to help people out, this is another scandalous,

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01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:35.279
<v Speaker 1>unbelievably scandalous aspect of this that all this money went

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01:31:35.319 --> 01:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>out the door and there was essentially no accounting for

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<v Speaker 1>any of it. And then there were some half hearted efforts,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to recoup some of that money. But by

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<v Speaker 1>and large we just you know, flushed, you know, hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of billions of dollars down the drain and no one

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<v Speaker 1>seems to care.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, we're trying to incentivize states by being able to

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<v Speaker 12>maybe keep some of what they recover to do that,

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<v Speaker 12>and that really was was held up. But the biggest thing,

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<v Speaker 12>the one that was the most egregious dand through the

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<v Speaker 12>whole thing, is with unemployment and you and what was

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<v Speaker 12>put in place against our wishes on Ways and Means

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<v Speaker 12>Committee was the self attestation.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, you just say you're unemployed.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, we weren't asking for verifying data, which was

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<v Speaker 12>easy to get. And actually Horowitz, who also was the

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<v Speaker 12>Inspector General for Faiza, going back to the fake Russian

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<v Speaker 12>collusion narrative, you know, he pointed that out that this

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<v Speaker 12>was absolutely the worst thing that we could do is

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<v Speaker 12>just let people do that, and he pointed out how

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01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:47.800
<v Speaker 12>easily it could have been done. So again, solutions oriented

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<v Speaker 12>as well, but it was there from the beginning. It

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<v Speaker 12>should have been able to be done that way. But

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<v Speaker 12>the theft is absolutely appalling at a time when we

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<v Speaker 12>are so far in debt and now we're just aiding

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<v Speaker 12>and ben people that hate us that are stealing money,

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<v Speaker 12>because a lot of it were foreign adversaries that were stealing.

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<v Speaker 1>But see, I think that's what I think about that

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<v Speaker 1>this report. Then why it's important that you document all

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01:33:12.920 --> 01:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>those things because during the course of your investigation you said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this element of it, and instead of just

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<v Speaker 1>leaving that alone, you detail that in the report. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's really important. This report does not reflect

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<v Speaker 1>well on doctor Fauci. Are the are the dots? If

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<v Speaker 1>someone wants to go through this report and connect the

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<v Speaker 1>dots on doctor Fauci? And I don't know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a referral for him to be investigated criminally on this,

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<v Speaker 1>but are there are the dots there in this report

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to connect if somebody wants to, oh,

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01:33:43.720 --> 01:33:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the dots are there, or maybe a legitimate media outlet

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do that.

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<v Speaker 12>That the dots are there to connect? The question is

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01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:56.039
<v Speaker 12>was anything done illegal? Look, I would say this early on,

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01:33:56.279 --> 01:33:59.359
<v Speaker 12>people were going to be subject to be what about

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<v Speaker 12>the fund?

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<v Speaker 3>Wrong? That's the fund? It wasn't there already something in place?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh let me go through that. Yeah, let me go through.

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<v Speaker 1>That that we're not allowed to do this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>funding and yet he was signing off on it anyway.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, so let's go through that. I'm I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 12>brought that up because that, to me is one of

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<v Speaker 12>the key findings of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he did that behind Trump's back, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>before the wuhan even started.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, let me tell you that. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 12>about the grant process. Yes, so, first of all, EcoHealth

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01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:30.600
<v Speaker 12>Alliance wanted to do gain a function research where they

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<v Speaker 12>are going to insert what's called receptor binding domains on

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<v Speaker 12>a bat backbone. So from another animal, you take a

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<v Speaker 12>receptor binding domain. In short, that makes something more infectious

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<v Speaker 12>stickier to human cell.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 12>They also wanted to add a fure in cleavage site.

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<v Speaker 12>COVID nineteen is a type of coronavirus that never had

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<v Speaker 12>a fear in cleavage site on it in nature.

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<v Speaker 3>Never But now I don't know what that means. What

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<v Speaker 3>does that mean?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, the you're in leavage site is if you think

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<v Speaker 12>of like R two D two when he extends that

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<v Speaker 12>arm and can get into a system. All right, if

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<v Speaker 12>you're in cleavage site is part of the the virus

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<v Speaker 12>that when activated does pop out okay and gets into

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<v Speaker 12>the human cell, in particular respiratory. Okay, okay, So that

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<v Speaker 12>gives that gives you some idea. So two components that

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<v Speaker 12>you add to a bat backbone of a virus. So

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<v Speaker 12>you start with a bat virus, you put it's like legos.

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<v Speaker 12>Now you're putting in parts, you're moving some out, putting

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<v Speaker 12>others in. And that's as simple as I think I

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<v Speaker 12>can I can put it. But that was their proposal.

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<v Speaker 12>What was interesting is in an email with Ralph Berrick

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<v Speaker 12>in North Carolina and Zengli She in Wuhan, China, Peter Dazik,

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01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:49.399
<v Speaker 12>the head of Eco Health Alliance, is saying, we'll just

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<v Speaker 12>tell them we're going to do this in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 12>but once we get the money, we'll shift it over

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<v Speaker 12>to Wuhan. Do it at a BSL too, a less

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01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:02.960
<v Speaker 12>safe lab because it costs less, and we'll do that.

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<v Speaker 12>Ralph Barrack said, no, no, no. That initial proposal went

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<v Speaker 12>to DARPA Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, Government Military Agency.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 12>They said, no, this is this is too risky. We're

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01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:23.039
<v Speaker 12>not we're not issuing that grant. They go over to NIH.

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01:36:23.119 --> 01:36:28.279
<v Speaker 12>Now you're talking Francis Collins and Tony Fauci they go

1645
01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:32.319
<v Speaker 12>over there, they get the grant. So we asked doctor

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01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:35.239
<v Speaker 12>Fauci about the grand process. Doctor Fauci, you signed off

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01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:40.119
<v Speaker 12>on on these grants, and uh, you know who basically

1648
01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:42.760
<v Speaker 12>who's responsible? He said, well, you know, I just I

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<v Speaker 12>do just sign them. At one point he said, we

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01:36:44.600 --> 01:36:47.520
<v Speaker 12>get billions of dollars in grants. I can't know what's

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01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:49.760
<v Speaker 12>in all of them. I just sign him. He said,

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<v Speaker 12>we have an advisory board that looks them over. Okay,

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01:36:53.399 --> 01:36:55.760
<v Speaker 12>that looks them over, and once they do that, then

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01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:58.600
<v Speaker 12>I just sign them. And we said, doctor Fauci, they

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<v Speaker 12>didn't comply with the grant. They were not doing their

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01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:07.000
<v Speaker 12>periodic reporting. They developed a pathogen that should have been reported,

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01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:09.239
<v Speaker 12>they didn't do it. They were two years late.

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<v Speaker 2>With that.

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<v Speaker 12>Does a flag go up at N I H or

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<v Speaker 12>N I A I D that you're in charge of,

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<v Speaker 12>to say where's your report? He said, that's over in compliance.

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<v Speaker 12>I have nothing to do with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we were talking about DOJE earlier, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the cod this is what we're talking about. Havevik Ramaswani

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<v Speaker 1>and Elon Musk are going to be looking at that

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01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and this is why so many billions of dollars goes

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<v Speaker 1>out the door and no one, there's no accountability.

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<v Speaker 12>And one step further on that, I said, look, you're

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<v Speaker 12>doing dangerous research. You know it's dangerous. You've said that

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<v Speaker 12>is from the very beginning. You're doing dangerous research in

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<v Speaker 12>a lab of an adversary. And what's your oversight? Are

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<v Speaker 12>you in the lab? Are you able to see what's

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<v Speaker 12>going on every step of the way he goes? I

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01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:57.920
<v Speaker 12>wouldn't even know how to do that. So we know

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01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:00.880
<v Speaker 12>that they're working on bio weapons over there, and we

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01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:02.960
<v Speaker 12>allow this kind of money to go out the door.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't supposed to happen though what there was

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01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:08.359
<v Speaker 1>already guidelines against it.

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<v Speaker 12>There was already there was a pause on it, but

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01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:15.000
<v Speaker 12>there was there was a little glitch clause that allowed

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01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:18.119
<v Speaker 12>them to work around it. These are these are the

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01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:20.520
<v Speaker 12>things you're talking about, right, These are the things we

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01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:23.039
<v Speaker 12>got to fix make sure something like this can never

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01:38:23.079 --> 01:38:28.399
<v Speaker 12>happen again. They get its accountability and transparency that there's

1686
01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:32.399
<v Speaker 12>a lack of, and they've gone wild with this, able

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01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:36.479
<v Speaker 12>to cloak themselves and be blameless on many things.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we're way late for a break here. Fifty

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<v Speaker 3>five KRC the talk stays Hie, Ryan tell us here

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<v Speaker 3>for four an extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five KRC DE talk station. How much does that

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01:38:52.840 --> 01:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>report with You got a giant buy in to their

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01:38:56.960 --> 01:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>five hundred and something pages of Select Subcommittee Coronavirus Pandemic Report,

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01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>two years worth of work right there. One of the

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01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>biggest things to me was the and you get into

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot, and the report was about the whole

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01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:17.359
<v Speaker 1>thing about misinformation. And I mean, we see how bloated,

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<v Speaker 1>how inept, how fraudulent our federal bureaucracies really can be.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to misinformation, you talk about the

1700
01:39:27.039 --> 01:39:31.359
<v Speaker 1>spread of misinformation through conflicting messages, knee jerk reactions, lack

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01:39:31.399 --> 01:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>of transparency. The most egregious examples of Pervasi's misinformation all

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01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:40.880
<v Speaker 1>flabeled drug use lab LEAUE theory. And the biggest purveyor

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01:39:40.920 --> 01:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of misinformation, it turns out, was the federal.

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<v Speaker 3>Government, without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 12>And this goes to one of the things that I

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01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:52.520
<v Speaker 12>said from the very beginning, and I said that it's

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01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:55.279
<v Speaker 12>a secretary as are America needs to hear from the

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01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:59.119
<v Speaker 12>doctor's treating COVID patients. Imagine the difference every day if

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01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:04.079
<v Speaker 12>you had a doctor anywhere around the country stepping out

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01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:08.319
<v Speaker 12>to a flood of microphones, lowering his mask, saying, here's

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<v Speaker 12>what I saw today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I remember a group of doctors coming out

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01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>who were treating COVID patients at the time, and this

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<v Speaker 1>one doctor who had like a Jamaican accent, a big woman,

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01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>came out and said, I'm treating these patients with hydroxychloriclin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's working. This is working, this is working. And those

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01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>people got shut down. I mean they were never seen

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<v Speaker 1>or heard from again.

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01:40:31.479 --> 01:40:34.079
<v Speaker 12>They got shut down by people that were never standing

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<v Speaker 12>over patients watching them die, desperate to try and save life.

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<v Speaker 12>And it's easy for them because people were just numbers

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01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:44.079
<v Speaker 12>on paper to them, and that would be the difference.

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<v Speaker 12>That's why we had the wrong messenger. That's part of

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01:40:46.359 --> 01:40:49.119
<v Speaker 12>this report, too, is who's going to be the messenger

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<v Speaker 12>in a situation like this? Trust it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one of the most Unamerican things that I

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<v Speaker 1>can possibly think of, that our government was actively involved

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01:40:57.119 --> 01:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>in shutting down a dissenting voices like this, not because

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01:41:01.399 --> 01:41:05.079
<v Speaker 1>the information was wrong, but simply because it went against

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<v Speaker 1>the official government narrative.

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<v Speaker 12>That's exactly right, and that sounds pretty communists or socialist

1732
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:14.039
<v Speaker 12>to me. And then you had people like Jay Botacher.

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<v Speaker 3>Our media was cheering it on the whole time.

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01:41:16.359 --> 01:41:19.720
<v Speaker 12>Well, they're part of it, they're part of it, they're

1735
01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:23.319
<v Speaker 12>they're right in on it. They get their talking points

1736
01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:26.359
<v Speaker 12>from the Democrat Party and they go for it. And

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01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:29.760
<v Speaker 12>that's the administration that was leading this. And I mean

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01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:32.680
<v Speaker 12>within the agencies. I don't know if somebody's a Republican

1739
01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:34.600
<v Speaker 12>or Democrat, but I do know in the White House

1740
01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:37.359
<v Speaker 12>what they are. And so if that's where things are

1741
01:41:37.399 --> 01:41:40.880
<v Speaker 12>coming from with a political directive, it's a problem. And

1742
01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:43.760
<v Speaker 12>you saw people like Jay Bodicheria, who you know, the

1743
01:41:43.800 --> 01:41:46.960
<v Speaker 12>Great Barrington Declaration. Okay, you may disagree with parts of it,

1744
01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:50.119
<v Speaker 12>but have the scientific debate. You know, we've we found

1745
01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:52.359
<v Speaker 12>out there was no science behind the mask, there was

1746
01:41:52.399 --> 01:41:55.159
<v Speaker 12>no science behind six feet. Actually that was being more

1747
01:41:55.199 --> 01:41:57.960
<v Speaker 12>directed by the teachers union who wanted a trigger to

1748
01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:01.239
<v Speaker 12>close the schools. That's in the red as well. But

1749
01:42:01.319 --> 01:42:03.960
<v Speaker 12>you have these people that were actually just having a

1750
01:42:04.039 --> 01:42:08.720
<v Speaker 12>scientific debate and they were being chastised, they were being humiliated,

1751
01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:14.039
<v Speaker 12>they were really being told. The public was being told

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01:42:14.079 --> 01:42:16.399
<v Speaker 12>that these people don't know what they're talking about and

1753
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:19.319
<v Speaker 12>actually they do, and I just give you examples. So

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01:42:19.359 --> 01:42:22.960
<v Speaker 12>the doctor patient relationship was just destroyed. If the government's

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01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:25.399
<v Speaker 12>going to tell you, here's the mandate, you've got to

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01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:29.239
<v Speaker 12>do it. They sped up approving the vaccine so the

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01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:33.800
<v Speaker 12>government could issue the mandate. Because then they made it

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01:42:33.840 --> 01:42:36.319
<v Speaker 12>fully approved. You had two people from the FDA walk

1759
01:42:36.359 --> 01:42:39.880
<v Speaker 12>away saying, no, this is wrong. You're speeding this process

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01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:44.600
<v Speaker 12>up for political purposes. The mandate, to me was one

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<v Speaker 12>of the most obscene things. Americans want to be educated,

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01:42:47.319 --> 01:42:50.279
<v Speaker 12>not indoctrinated, and they want to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 12>That came from somebody who was hesitant to take the vaccine.

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01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:58.760
<v Speaker 12>When I explained who's vulnerable and what it does and

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01:42:58.800 --> 01:43:01.640
<v Speaker 12>what it doesn't do, person said, I'm more likely to

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01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:04.359
<v Speaker 12>take it now. But you just educated me. I don't

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<v Speaker 12>want to be indoctrinated. That's where I got Yeah, And

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01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:11.079
<v Speaker 12>so this is just human nature. These are the things

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01:43:11.079 --> 01:43:14.399
<v Speaker 12>that we talk about in our report of how we

1771
01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:17.119
<v Speaker 12>can do things better. But you put shoved these people aside.

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<v Speaker 12>You ended scientific debate, and American people quit falling for it.

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01:43:21.960 --> 01:43:25.840
<v Speaker 12>By and large, even though their favorite news station might

1774
01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:30.800
<v Speaker 12>continue to spew these things, people fell off that's why

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01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:33.600
<v Speaker 12>Donald Trump went overwhelmingly one of the reasons why.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's amazing how the tentacles of this carry

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01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:46.479
<v Speaker 1>on into everyday life, every day, people's interaction with government

1779
01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:47.119
<v Speaker 1>every day.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's going to continue, I think, for a long

1781
01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:49.960
<v Speaker 3>time to come.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven forty six another quick break in here, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll continue on on fifty five KRCV talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty five KRCD talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Bred Winstrip is here talking about the five hundred, five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty four.

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<v Speaker 12>Pages five twenty and then seventeen pages of recommendation yea future.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are so many elements to this. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was talking earlier about how each one of

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<v Speaker 1>these is a major scandal. I mean, why don't we

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01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:30.079
<v Speaker 1>deal with scandal in this country the way we used

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01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, it used to be truth justice in the

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01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:36.880
<v Speaker 12>American way, right. You know, even as a teenager when

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<v Speaker 12>Watergate was going on, you know, I was proud of

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<v Speaker 12>Republicans because everyone was just after the truth. And you know,

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<v Speaker 12>if that meant there's ramifications, then then so be it.

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<v Speaker 12>I had the same approach in my mind on Intelligence

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01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:52.920
<v Speaker 12>Committee when we were looking into the fake Well, we

1801
01:44:52.920 --> 01:44:54.920
<v Speaker 12>didn't know it was fake Russian collusion. I went in

1802
01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:57.359
<v Speaker 12>open minded if Trump did something wrong and so be it.

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01:44:57.720 --> 01:44:59.800
<v Speaker 12>Well we quickly found out not only did he do

1804
01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:04.359
<v Speaker 12>nothing wrong, whatsoever they did They they paid for that

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01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:04.880
<v Speaker 12>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And and and you know, at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the day, even though the Inspector General proved it

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01:45:09.239 --> 01:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and they knew it was fake, still nothing else.

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01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:15.479
<v Speaker 3>And they and they continued to lie to them.

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<v Speaker 12>They were they were part of it. And because why

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01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:22.039
<v Speaker 12>that's media the media should be driving like why haven't

1812
01:45:22.079 --> 01:45:26.000
<v Speaker 12>heads rolled? Why haven't heads rolled? Because if their side's

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01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:28.720
<v Speaker 12>the one doing the scandals, and and they have a

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01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:32.600
<v Speaker 12>side in media, then they don't want to pursue it.

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<v Speaker 12>And look, we saw this the teachers Union, the teachers

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01:45:36.119 --> 01:45:40.800
<v Speaker 12>Union were the Biden transition team reached out to the

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<v Speaker 12>teachers union right away after he won and basically started

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<v Speaker 12>asking them what they would want for schools as far

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<v Speaker 12>as closures and the rules. The teachers Union, not scientists,

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01:45:52.199 --> 01:45:57.399
<v Speaker 12>not the CDC. Randy Winegarden had uh Randy Winegarden had

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<v Speaker 12>the head of the CDC, well director Willinskey's personal sell

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<v Speaker 12>And you go through the Teachers' Union's documents and their

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01:46:05.680 --> 01:46:08.359
<v Speaker 12>internal conversation. And I'm not blaming every teacher on this,

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01:46:08.760 --> 01:46:10.560
<v Speaker 12>I'm blaming the leadership of the union.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 12>They said, we need a trigger to close. What we're

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<v Speaker 12>after is a trigger to close. So what they wanted

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01:46:18.520 --> 01:46:21.439
<v Speaker 12>was like ten feet of distancing. Why, well, you can't

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<v Speaker 12>go back to school in.

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<v Speaker 1>Person, kids, but you look at the unintended consequences there,

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01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:29.479
<v Speaker 1>and so we ended up with six Yeah, you got

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<v Speaker 1>kids working from home and parents looking over their shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>at what they're learning on the computer. And the parents

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01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>are like, what the hell is this?

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<v Speaker 3>We learned that, We learned that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, this is what's going on in the school,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest and the rest is history. There talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about Andrew Cuomo, Yes, in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've recommended him for criminal investigation.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, And that criminal retro is because they issued a

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01:46:54.680 --> 01:46:57.399
<v Speaker 12>report that tried to play down the nursing home deaths

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<v Speaker 12>and lower the number, and that was discovered even by

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<v Speaker 12>the Attorney general.

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<v Speaker 1>And he destroyed documents. Uh, he never he produced documents.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't really produce documents. He he often claimed he

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01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:13.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't know anything. So, for example, so he wrote a

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01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:17.399
<v Speaker 1>book he wrote a book about his great leadership during the.

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<v Speaker 12>WU case in point, when we asked him how he

1849
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:23.840
<v Speaker 12>wrote his book, he pointed to his head and said,

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01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:26.520
<v Speaker 12>it's all here. We said, what, what, what did you

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01:47:26.560 --> 01:47:29.439
<v Speaker 12>refer to? What documents did you refer to? He pointed

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01:47:29.479 --> 01:47:31.880
<v Speaker 12>to his head writer up there, and he said it

1853
01:47:32.279 --> 01:47:34.880
<v Speaker 12>was all right here. But then he doesn't recall anything,

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01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:39.319
<v Speaker 12>so he doesn't so he issues a directive. And I

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01:47:39.319 --> 01:47:41.399
<v Speaker 12>think this is something I really want the audience to hear,

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<v Speaker 12>is what he did, and where we had bipartis support

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<v Speaker 12>from physicians to call it malpractice. CDC guidance issued guidance

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01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:54.720
<v Speaker 12>guidance saying talking about quarantining this and that. So when

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<v Speaker 12>we came to nursing homes for some reason, Governor Cuomo

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<v Speaker 12>issued a direct if not guidance, but a directive.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an order, right.

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<v Speaker 12>And he said that no nursing home will can deny

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<v Speaker 12>someone admission to the nursing home with a diagnosis of

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<v Speaker 12>COVID nineteen or a presumed diagnosis of COVID nineteen. And

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<v Speaker 12>then he said, and you are prohibited from even testing

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<v Speaker 12>them for COVID nineteen. What kind of nonsense is this?

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<v Speaker 12>And how can the nursing home treat the patient appropriately

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<v Speaker 12>and protect the other patients appropriately if they don't know

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01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:40.399
<v Speaker 12>the status, don't know who should be quarantined, and can't

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<v Speaker 12>say we can't take you because we can't quarantine you.

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<v Speaker 12>That's what that directive did. It made no sense. And

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<v Speaker 12>the CDC guideline said, you can refuse someone if you

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01:48:51.720 --> 01:48:55.600
<v Speaker 12>can't adhere to the proper protocols. You don't take someone

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<v Speaker 12>highly contagious and put him next to the most vulnerable,

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01:48:59.720 --> 01:49:03.960
<v Speaker 12>which the elderly. Were they most and they have comorbidities.

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<v Speaker 12>They are the absolute most vulnerable population in America. And

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<v Speaker 12>he took highly contagious people and made them be admitted

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<v Speaker 12>to the nursing homes. Then it's an interview months a

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<v Speaker 12>month or so later and people asked him about it.

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<v Speaker 12>He said, oh, I didn't know anything about that. He

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01:49:22.119 --> 01:49:24.960
<v Speaker 12>said he knew nothing about it. Well, there's evidence to

1882
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<v Speaker 12>the contrary. But besides that, then he wanted to report

1883
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<v Speaker 12>put out that said that wasn't as bad as they're

1884
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:35.720
<v Speaker 12>saying it was. You know that we didn't have all

1885
01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:39.479
<v Speaker 12>these nursing home deaths. What they ignored was people that

1886
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<v Speaker 12>were in the nursing home got COVID, went to the

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01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:47.960
<v Speaker 12>hospital and died. They ignored all those deaths to lower

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<v Speaker 12>the number. He said he didn't have anything to do

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<v Speaker 12>with any of this. Well, it was interesting. We asked

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01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:57.239
<v Speaker 12>him if he edited that report in any way, shape

1891
01:49:57.319 --> 01:50:02.039
<v Speaker 12>or form, and he said no. US what whistleblowers came forward.

1892
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<v Speaker 12>We have emails it said, here are the governor's edits,

1893
01:50:08.640 --> 01:50:12.319
<v Speaker 12>and then we got the edits in his handwriting on

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<v Speaker 12>the report.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he was referred. Yeah, that's why he was

1896
01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:19.800
<v Speaker 1>so lying in front of Congress. Is still frowned upon.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's frowned upon by Congress, that's for sure. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>very much. All right, can you you do? You want

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<v Speaker 3>to hang around for another half an hour? I wish

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01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I could got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could write, you've got other obligations.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine, I do, and I head back to d C

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<v Speaker 3>today as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But because we literally could have done the whole show

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<v Speaker 1>from five o'clock on.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I agree with you. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much here and the more and the more

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01:50:43.800 --> 01:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>you talk about it, the more my memory is jogged

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<v Speaker 1>about things that that I want to talk to you

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01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>about but you know what, maybe we can do it

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<v Speaker 1>again sometimes.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, it's so true and even during our two years,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, as I look back on stuff that we

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<v Speaker 12>did in the first couple of months, it's like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 12>I almost forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's amazing, and we forgot that really covered that

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01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:06.359
<v Speaker 1>it really is. But this report is great. This is

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01:51:06.600 --> 01:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of material for future talk shows for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I'll be around more importantly.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be around, yeah, more importantly for the American people exactly,

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01:51:16.920 --> 01:51:18.199
<v Speaker 1>and for America going forward.

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<v Speaker 12>And we tried to make it an easy read for people,

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01:51:21.640 --> 01:51:24.439
<v Speaker 12>you know, not overly scientific, and in the case of that,

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01:51:24.479 --> 01:51:28.479
<v Speaker 12>we're making break it down, explain it. And I think

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01:51:28.479 --> 01:51:31.000
<v Speaker 12>that we did that and people can take it one

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01:51:31.079 --> 01:51:34.680
<v Speaker 12>section at a time. Like I'm interested in the school closures,

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01:51:34.800 --> 01:51:37.640
<v Speaker 12>I'm interested in masks. I want to see what you

1930
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<v Speaker 12>found about all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, I got to talk to Chrisman then

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<v Speaker 1>after eight o'clock, so we'll hear what he has to say.

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<v Speaker 1>But brad Winstrop, you're looking good, brother, great to see you.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, you know what, I can stay fifteen more minutes

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<v Speaker 12>if you want me to fifteen minutes, I can stay

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<v Speaker 12>another fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, sounds good. Let's do that and Joe will

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And we got to get to the news

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<v Speaker 1>here at the top of the hour though, Dan Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>for Briant Thomas with brad Winstrop on fifty five krs

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<v Speaker 1>the talk station, Your voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for MCAU your country here every day, fifty

1943
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:13.920
<v Speaker 3>five krs the talk station. This report is sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>More minutes with not Greg Landsman, but brad Winstrom and

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<v Speaker 1>brad winst used to be my we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that off the area. It used to be my congressman,

1947
01:52:25.159 --> 01:52:27.840
<v Speaker 1>but then they changed districts on me. I didn't move,

1948
01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:30.359
<v Speaker 1>but the district movement district and now and now you're

1949
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<v Speaker 1>you were you know, you're not my representative Ohio.

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<v Speaker 12>Loss of seed, which you know doesn't help us. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 12>that's that's part of it. That's thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, I mean, we're talking about the report two

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<v Speaker 1>years were the work from the subcommittee that you were

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<v Speaker 1>the chairman of, and uh, I mean you get into

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01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:50.399
<v Speaker 1>every single aspect of everything that was that was related

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01:52:50.439 --> 01:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to UH to COVID nineteen one that we haven't touched

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01:52:54.560 --> 01:52:57.800
<v Speaker 1>on a lot. Yet, is the vaccines you were you

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01:52:57.840 --> 01:53:01.079
<v Speaker 1>were in favor of Operation Warp Speed. Absolutely, you said

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<v Speaker 1>before that it saved lives. There's a lot of people

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01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:06.279
<v Speaker 1>who would probably argue with you on that that the

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01:53:06.600 --> 01:53:10.439
<v Speaker 1>COVID vaccines actually wound up maybe doing more harm than good,

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01:53:10.880 --> 01:53:14.119
<v Speaker 1>that maybe they you know, some people died because of

1963
01:53:14.199 --> 01:53:16.159
<v Speaker 1>taking the vaccine who didn't need it.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, let's talk about that, because you know, I followed

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<v Speaker 12>the trials closely. Actually I tried to get in the trial,

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<v Speaker 12>but when I went over to UC, I had just

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01:53:24.680 --> 01:53:26.560
<v Speaker 12>given blood and that disqualified me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I couldn't get in it. But I watched it

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<v Speaker 3>very closely.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what about all the reporting that the big pharmaceutical

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01:53:31.560 --> 01:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>companies withheld information about the trials that they did What.

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<v Speaker 12>About all Well, I don't think they withheld information. I

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<v Speaker 12>think from the trials because the trials were pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 12>You're not going to you know, we didn't do a

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01:53:45.039 --> 01:53:48.279
<v Speaker 12>good job of and this is part of our report.

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01:53:48.279 --> 01:53:50.479
<v Speaker 12>We didn't do a good job of adverse effects of

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01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:54.279
<v Speaker 12>the vaccines, things like that vaccine injuries. We got to

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01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:56.640
<v Speaker 12>clean up that. But look, think about what was going on.

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<v Speaker 12>Millions of people did die. People were die dying, but

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<v Speaker 12>we knew who was dying and who was most vulnerable

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01:54:03.439 --> 01:54:06.199
<v Speaker 12>to a large degree, you know percent, but to a

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01:54:06.279 --> 01:54:09.239
<v Speaker 12>large degree what the trials showed and I said this

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<v Speaker 12>from sorry, here's what the trial showed. That just because

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01:54:12.760 --> 01:54:15.960
<v Speaker 12>you get the vaccine doesn't mean you can't get COVID.

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<v Speaker 12>It's different from the others. The mRNA technology is different

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01:54:20.600 --> 01:54:23.840
<v Speaker 12>from the vaccines. We grew up with that being said.

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<v Speaker 12>That should have been something everyone was aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet that was part of the original narrative from

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01:54:29.159 --> 01:54:31.640
<v Speaker 1>this government and from the media was that if you

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01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:35.039
<v Speaker 1>get the vaccine totally you can't get it, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>spread it.

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<v Speaker 12>Fauci said it, and you know, I pointed out to

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01:54:38.039 --> 01:54:40.720
<v Speaker 12>him that's not true, and the trials had shown that.

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<v Speaker 12>But people were dying and people were people did well.

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<v Speaker 12>The trials showed that if you get the vaccine, you're

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01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:55.479
<v Speaker 12>less likely to die and less likely to get as sick,

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<v Speaker 12>but you can still get COVID. It was not a

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01:54:58.840 --> 01:55:02.000
<v Speaker 12>dead end for the virus. Doctor Fauci said that to

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01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:05.199
<v Speaker 12>me was a form of malpractice, if you will, by

2000
01:55:05.760 --> 01:55:08.119
<v Speaker 12>telling the people that, because that's not true, and you

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01:55:08.159 --> 01:55:09.800
<v Speaker 12>know how it is with drugs. You got to list

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01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:12.079
<v Speaker 12>every side effect you guys, you got to be honest

2003
01:55:12.119 --> 01:55:14.760
<v Speaker 12>about it. This is where we went way wrong. We

2004
01:55:14.760 --> 01:55:18.840
<v Speaker 12>weren't honest about it. So it was approved for emergency use.

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<v Speaker 12>That should be a decision between you and your doctor,

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01:55:22.560 --> 01:55:26.800
<v Speaker 12>as we have data of who's dying, what's worse. Does

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01:55:26.840 --> 01:55:30.439
<v Speaker 12>the benefit out weigh the risk for you depending upon

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01:55:30.520 --> 01:55:33.680
<v Speaker 12>your health status. That's where we were, That's what it

2009
01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:37.840
<v Speaker 12>should have been. And again at the beginning, it was

2010
01:55:38.039 --> 01:55:40.760
<v Speaker 12>just for the most vulnerable. But then they wanted you know,

2011
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<v Speaker 12>you're two your you're two month old to get vaccinated.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it.

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<v Speaker 12>It was ridiculous, no evidence out there to say that

2014
01:55:47.720 --> 01:55:50.880
<v Speaker 12>that should happen. And we talked before. People want to

2015
01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:55.039
<v Speaker 12>be educated, not indoctrinated, and that comes from sitting, having

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01:55:55.119 --> 01:55:58.520
<v Speaker 12>a chance to sit with your physician discuss your health.

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<v Speaker 12>I'll give you an example. So I was told that

2018
01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:03.960
<v Speaker 12>before I could go to Germany for a security conference

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01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:05.199
<v Speaker 12>and I needed to get a booster.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, okay, well, listen.

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<v Speaker 12>I had two doses of Pfizer and months later I

2022
01:56:12.119 --> 01:56:15.439
<v Speaker 12>was cooking and I couldn't smell garlic salt, and I

2023
01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:18.000
<v Speaker 12>said to my wife, I've got COVID or had it?

2024
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<v Speaker 12>I said, maybe last week. Remember I had a chill

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01:56:20.399 --> 01:56:22.399
<v Speaker 12>one day, I probably got COVID. I didn't go get

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01:56:22.399 --> 01:56:25.640
<v Speaker 12>tested because I figured I had it okay and recovering

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<v Speaker 12>and now you know, doing fine, and no one in

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01:56:28.039 --> 01:56:31.880
<v Speaker 12>my family was sick either. Now, before I was to

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01:56:31.920 --> 01:56:33.399
<v Speaker 12>get this booster, I said, I want to get my

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<v Speaker 12>antibodies and tea cells. And on that on the hill,

2031
01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:38.720
<v Speaker 12>they said, oh, we can't do T cells. Our lab

2032
01:56:38.760 --> 01:56:41.960
<v Speaker 12>can do antibodies. Let's let's see where they are. A

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<v Speaker 12>strong number was forty. My number was eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 12>twenty one. If I if you sit with your doctor

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01:56:48.680 --> 01:56:50.840
<v Speaker 12>and your numbers eight hundred and twenty one, your doctor's

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<v Speaker 12>going to say, I don't see what a booster's going

2037
01:56:52.399 --> 01:56:54.039
<v Speaker 12>to do for you. Matter of fact, I'm a little

2038
01:56:54.079 --> 01:56:56.640
<v Speaker 12>concerned you might get a hyper immune response. That's what

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<v Speaker 12>doctor Winster would say to a patient.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 12>But this is the environment that we were in. And

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<v Speaker 12>it's interesting now that they don't if you see the ads,

2043
01:57:05.520 --> 01:57:08.359
<v Speaker 12>they don't call it the COVID vaccine anymore. They call

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<v Speaker 12>it the COVID shot, COVID shot of the COVID boosters,

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<v Speaker 12>and variants are not a new idea. That's what viruses do.

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<v Speaker 12>So when we had COVID and then we had variants,

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<v Speaker 12>it shouldn't be shocking. The conversation should be there's probably

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<v Speaker 12>going to be some variance. We'll see if they're more

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<v Speaker 12>infectious or less effect infectious. What do we have to

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01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:26.880
<v Speaker 12>have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we supposed to believe, because it's being put out

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<v Speaker 1>to us now that hey, your annual flu shot and

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<v Speaker 1>get your COVID shot at the same time, that these

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01:57:36.119 --> 01:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>two things are kind of akin to each other.

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<v Speaker 12>Yea, And I think that's a conversation you have with

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<v Speaker 12>your doctor. I would tell you my kids are young

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<v Speaker 12>eleven and seven. We're at the pediatrician's office, and the

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<v Speaker 12>pediatrician says, I just don't see where there's benefit compared

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<v Speaker 12>to the little risk of getting this vaccination. And not

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<v Speaker 12>only that, we really don't know. And I said this

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<v Speaker 12>from the very beginning, to be honest with patients. I

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<v Speaker 12>can't tell you what we're going to know about this

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<v Speaker 12>vaccine ten years from now, twenty years from now, I'm

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<v Speaker 12>not certain. Just my own observations. We know that COVID

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<v Speaker 12>was creating clots. People were throwing clots with COVID H.

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<v Speaker 12>We know that people, young males were getting myocarditis from

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<v Speaker 12>the vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, I mean so, I don't know what. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the other elements of this. There are

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<v Speaker 1>so many anecdotal stories out there about young people, athletes

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<v Speaker 1>who are in good shape, people you know, marathon runners,

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<v Speaker 1>basketball players dropping dead after they get the vaccine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>I had a parent call me. He's a county commissioner,

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<v Speaker 12>and he said, hey, my son's in high school. They're

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<v Speaker 12>telling him he has to get the vaccine. I said,

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<v Speaker 12>is he healthy and he said yeah. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 12>are you worried about myocarditis from the vaccine?

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<v Speaker 3>He said yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>I said, well you should be. You should be. I said,

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<v Speaker 12>but I think maybe do this at this point. I

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<v Speaker 12>said maybe. At this point. What you do is you

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<v Speaker 12>get one dose of pfiser, go to your doctor, talk

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<v Speaker 12>to your doctor about it. Get one dose of Pfiser,

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<v Speaker 12>and that gives you good protection because the milecarditis is

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<v Speaker 12>occurring after the second dose, very few, if any had

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<v Speaker 12>it after the first dose. Then you'll have coverage, and

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<v Speaker 12>you know, get a note from your doctor saying he's covered.

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<v Speaker 12>He got he got the one dose, He's good to go.

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<v Speaker 12>The school boards were rejecting things like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Who were they?

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<v Speaker 12>Do you understand where I'm saying, But we have to

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<v Speaker 12>have a better reporting system, data system so that doctors

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<v Speaker 12>with their patients can make decisions this best for their patient.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, a minute and a half left, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I know you got to go. It seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>melding and the overlap of politics and science and and health.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like these things we'd be better off if

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<v Speaker 1>we can keep these things in separate lanes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>keep the politics out of health information, yes, and science information?

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<v Speaker 1>How important is that moving forward?

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<v Speaker 12>Absolutely? You know there's a White House pandemic Preparedness team

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<v Speaker 12>right now and a former Air Force surgeon heads it,

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<v Speaker 12>and he wanted to meet with the Republican Doctor's Caucus,

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<v Speaker 12>which he did, and he said, how do we re

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<v Speaker 12>establish trusts? And I said, get it out of the

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<v Speaker 12>White House. Get it out of the White House. And

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<v Speaker 12>that's in our proposals that we put a construct together.

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<v Speaker 12>We're a team, an agnostic team that may be part

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<v Speaker 12>of the executive branch, but is out of the White House,

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<v Speaker 12>not sitting in the White House, and they will decide,

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<v Speaker 12>CDC does this, NIH does this, NIAI D does this.

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<v Speaker 12>FDA has to do this, and you all report to

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<v Speaker 12>us because we got different messages from different components of

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<v Speaker 12>our government throughout happen, and you have to not only

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<v Speaker 12>say here's what we think, but here's why, that's what

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<v Speaker 12>we need to do.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, with that, brad winstrip, we'll let you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for the time. It's great, great seeing you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for being here. You too, and I'll be around.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm leaving Congress, but I'm not not gone.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you'll be around.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever your your next chapter in life holds, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna knock it out of the park just like you've

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<v Speaker 1>done up to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're kind. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean i've seen you in action. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean you still look great in the uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've seen you speak at veterans events and Memorial

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<v Speaker 1>Day things and things like that, and it's been fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>But thanks for the time, and I have a great day,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk some more.

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<v Speaker 3>About this down the road. Thank you, God blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>All right on fifty five KR se DE talk station

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five KR see the talk station What a day.

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<v Speaker 1>What a day today, brad Winstrip just left the studio

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<v Speaker 1>and great to talk with him for more than an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his committee report looking at the COVID nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>and joining us now is the one time vice mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of the City of Cincinnati, Chris smitham and and Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you had a chance to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to brad Winstrip at all, but hey, you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you look back at these days of what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on during the Wuhan virus, and I mean all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that happened that surrounded government, one scandal on top

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<v Speaker 1>of another.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about the way they were trying to suppress

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<v Speaker 1>free speech, when whether or not the virus came from

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<v Speaker 1>a lab, whether it was you know, came from nature.

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<v Speaker 1>When you talk about the billions of dollars that got

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<v Speaker 1>flushed down the toilet, I mean, the tentacles of this

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<v Speaker 1>and the scandals related to this, it just really it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to wind up being I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more shameful chapters in American history, the way that all

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<v Speaker 1>this is shaking out.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, of course day morning, and yes I was listening.

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<v Speaker 5>I consider Congressman brad Winster of a friend. Was you know,

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<v Speaker 5>definitely sad to see him go after twelve years of

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<v Speaker 5>service and you know, a person who gave up a

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<v Speaker 5>very successful medical practice to do it, and you know

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<v Speaker 5>it's time for him to come home and be with

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<v Speaker 5>his wife and be with his kids and be a

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<v Speaker 5>dad and and make some money. So you know, he

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<v Speaker 5>has he has given a lot in the military. He

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<v Speaker 5>now has given a lot in Congress. And uh, definitely, Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>I was, you know, glad that that Congress of brat

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<v Speaker 5>Winster was there at the hell investigating what happened during COVID.

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<v Speaker 5>I think for me, you know, this most recent pardon

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<v Speaker 5>by President Biden should catch the imagination of all Americans

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<v Speaker 5>because of the broadness of the pardon and the reason

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<v Speaker 5>I raise it in the context of your interview with

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<v Speaker 5>Congress from brad Winstrop is I believe that President Biden

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<v Speaker 5>is going to continue some very broad pardons prior to

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<v Speaker 5>January twentieth, and some of those pardons might connect with

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<v Speaker 5>the interview that you just had. So I think that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I would not be surprised if he partons

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<v Speaker 5>Fauci in a very broad way over a number of years.

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<v Speaker 5>And we don't even know what he's being pardoned for nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it customary to have committed a crime or have

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<v Speaker 1>done something wrong before you received the pardon or actually

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<v Speaker 1>have been sentence yet for something, yes, or found guilty.

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<v Speaker 3>Of something yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, And so I think they're very nervous about some

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<v Speaker 5>of the selections that are coming from President Electroump, these

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<v Speaker 5>administrative big moves at the top that will just release

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<v Speaker 5>information to the public here or the emails, here at

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<v Speaker 5>the memo, here are the meetings, And I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be incredibly transparent and telling for all of

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<v Speaker 5>us over the next two or three months. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 5>about January, February, and March as information is released about

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<v Speaker 5>what was really happening. And I think it's connected directly

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<v Speaker 5>to the interview that you just had with Congressman brad Winstrop. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we spend so much time talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>swamp that Washington is the gender, it's the chiselers that

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the ne'er do wells that didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>at that place. And I was asking him off the

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<v Speaker 1>air about what he was going to miss about being

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<v Speaker 1>in DC, and I think there, you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of honorable people, and I think brad Winstroup is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the honorable people. And you know, going into

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<v Speaker 1>this select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>if if he had a preconceived notion or what he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the results of this to be. And he said no,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, we went in to find facts. We went

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<v Speaker 1>in to find out why this happened, how it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>what was done right, what was done wrong, and to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the truth of the matter and report to

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<v Speaker 1>the American people. And so many times Chris smitheman, when

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<v Speaker 1>when you have committees like this, they go in with

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<v Speaker 1>a preconceived notion of what they want to find, what

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<v Speaker 1>they want to report, what they want the end product

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<v Speaker 1>to be, and they go in with blinders on trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get fromt you know, trying to get to that

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<v Speaker 1>predetermined conclusion. And I think brad Winstrop is a great

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<v Speaker 1>example of a real servant to the American people. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think he ran this committee with great integrity, and

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<v Speaker 1>I first.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with you, and I also think he did

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<v Speaker 5>it in a bipartisan way, which is, you know, very

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<v Speaker 5>unusual in Congress. So it just shows again, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>his willingness to reach across the aisle and look for facts.

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<v Speaker 5>But let me pivot Dan Carroll into the pennycase, which

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<v Speaker 5>I think we're going to find some type of determination today.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I hope. So you know what, Chris, can you

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<v Speaker 3>hang around for one more segment?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we got to get to a break right here.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do that on the other side of the break,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got another question for you as it relates

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<v Speaker 1>to as it relates to cryptocurrency, and we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that as we roll on till nine o'clock this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas, and we will continue

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris Smithman on the other side of this on

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five krc DE talks about nine on this Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, we are talking with Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Smithman the smither Vent, a late version of the smith

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<v Speaker 1>Event on this Monday morning. And you were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Penny trial in New York City, and to my

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<v Speaker 1>way of thinking, a terrible miscarriage of justice, a trial

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<v Speaker 1>that should never have been brought. You've got to al

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone talks about Alvin Bragg, but the prosecutor that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>running the case in the courtroom did an interview some

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<v Speaker 1>time ago talking about another case she had where she

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<v Speaker 1>felt bad for the defendant because the defendant didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any life growing up, and so therefore she let him

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<v Speaker 1>off the murder charge that this individual had committed.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that the standard that we should have for justice

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<v Speaker 3>in this country.

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<v Speaker 5>It absolutely is not. And what was so telling about

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<v Speaker 5>the testimony are the number of African Americans, people of color,

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<v Speaker 5>men and women, white, black, other who testified and said,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought my life was on the line, and so

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<v Speaker 5>you have this good samaritan, and some people might be

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<v Speaker 5>listening to our interview and they don't even know what

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<v Speaker 5>we're talking about. Where last week the judge said, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>you no longer have to consider manslaughter. Look at the

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<v Speaker 5>second charge. It's a lesser charge where he could get

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<v Speaker 5>four years. But the implications around race, because I believe

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<v Speaker 5>that if Penny, who is a veteran white male who

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<v Speaker 5>intervened for the black people who were on the train,

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<v Speaker 5>the white people who were on the train, the men

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<v Speaker 5>and women, see, they don't tell that part of the story.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't talk about the diversity of people that were

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<v Speaker 5>looking at him, going, oh my god, we're on this train.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no cops down here, and this man just got

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<v Speaker 5>on the train and said he feels like he's going

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<v Speaker 5>to kill somebody and doesn't worry about what happens to

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<v Speaker 5>him if he does it. And so the notion of

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<v Speaker 5>the ripple effect across the United States of America. They

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<v Speaker 5>convict this good samaritan. What do we do when we're

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<v Speaker 5>in those situations? If you have a prosecutor that will say,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, I'll put you in jail if you intervene,

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<v Speaker 5>what does that good samaritan have to do? Dan Carol,

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<v Speaker 5>Wait for him to stabb somebody, wait for him to

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<v Speaker 5>start shooting in the in the train. Tell me what

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<v Speaker 5>that standard looks like. And so the reason those New

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<v Speaker 5>Yorkers are grappling with this is that because of the

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<v Speaker 5>crime ridden city that they live in, and they're sitting

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<v Speaker 5>there going, well, what if my daughter was in that situation,

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<v Speaker 5>What if I was in that situation, What if my

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<v Speaker 5>spouse was in that situation? What do we want Penny

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<v Speaker 5>to stand up and do something about it? And so

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<v Speaker 5>the problem with this brother is you being my white

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<v Speaker 5>brother and us having these conversations is these are the

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<v Speaker 5>kinds of things that try to divide us in a country.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got to be able to look at the fact

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<v Speaker 5>pattern and say, this has nothing to do with race.

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<v Speaker 5>This has to do with people on a train where

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<v Speaker 5>they felt that their lives were on the line, and

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<v Speaker 5>there was a veteran there who said, as a good samaritan, listen,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to try to intervene and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>try to save lives. And by the way, I heard

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<v Speaker 5>a great interview. They said, if this man had done

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<v Speaker 5>it on the battlefield, they would have been giving him

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<v Speaker 5>a purple heart. Because he did it in New York

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<v Speaker 5>on a subway. We're going to give him four years

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<v Speaker 5>or we're going to give him fifteen years in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think we're going to just have to hope

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<v Speaker 1>that this jury comes to their senses and finds him

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty on all these counts. Let me, let me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me pivot now, Chris Smytherman, And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more less talked about aspects of Donald Trump is that

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<v Speaker 1>he has become an advocate for cryptocurrency. In your role

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<v Speaker 1>as a financial planner, I would imagine that you're asked

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<v Speaker 1>about this all the time, you talk about it from

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02:11:07.439 --> 02:11:09.279
<v Speaker 1>time to time with the people that you deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you stand on the issue of cryptocurrency? And

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02:11:13.079 --> 02:11:16.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at bitcoin these days and I

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02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:18.399
<v Speaker 1>think it was Thursday or Friday last week it went

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<v Speaker 1>up over one hundred thousand dollars for a single bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely amazing. I wish I would have bought it back

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<v Speaker 1>when I had the chance to buy it when it

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02:11:26.439 --> 02:11:29.319
<v Speaker 1>was you know, when you could buy you know, buy

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<v Speaker 1>it for less than a penny apiece. But well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how important is is the fact that that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has become an advocate for cryptocurrency? How important is that

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<v Speaker 1>going to be? You think when we talk about these

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<v Speaker 1>issues going forward.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think when he walked into that restaurant with

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<v Speaker 5>those young people and bought that burger with bitcoin during

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02:11:52.479 --> 02:11:55.640
<v Speaker 5>the campaign trail, he was sending a message that, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>this is something that I think is real. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I have to you it's something that I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm more like a warm buffet here where you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a wait and see. But there hasn't been a

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<v Speaker 5>person in the White House, you know, me serving as

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02:12:12.640 --> 02:12:15.479
<v Speaker 5>a financial planner where someone is saying, hey, through the

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<v Speaker 5>public policy of the United States of America. We're we're

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02:12:19.479 --> 02:12:22.640
<v Speaker 5>going to legitimize this currency. So I think that this

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be a very interesting time about what

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<v Speaker 5>this regulation look around that. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be very interesting about what this regulation look in general,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it's banking, whether it's the oil industry, whether it's

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02:12:36.039 --> 02:12:39.960
<v Speaker 5>the aviation industry. You know, what is what is this?

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<v Speaker 5>What is this Trump administration going to look like? What

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02:12:43.960 --> 02:12:47.800
<v Speaker 5>mergers does he allow to go through? I'm not naming any,

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<v Speaker 5>but think of some right here in Cincinnati, Ohio. What

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02:12:51.439 --> 02:12:54.399
<v Speaker 5>what kind of mergers will this administration be friendly to

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02:12:55.000 --> 02:12:58.000
<v Speaker 5>that others won't. I think things like you know what

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02:12:58.239 --> 02:13:01.279
<v Speaker 5>our social media platforms are doing or not doing is

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02:13:01.359 --> 02:13:05.000
<v Speaker 5>going to hit his radar two just because of his experiences. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>Dan Carroll, let me say this, because I know I

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02:13:07.079 --> 02:13:09.000
<v Speaker 5>don't have a lot of time. All right, let me

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02:13:09.039 --> 02:13:10.680
<v Speaker 5>say this to you, brother. Let me say this to

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<v Speaker 5>you brother. Look, people keep saying that this administration is

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<v Speaker 5>going to be about retribution. And I don't see that,

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<v Speaker 5>Dan Carroll. I don't I don't see an administration coming

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02:13:21.960 --> 02:13:25.039
<v Speaker 5>in saying I'm coming in here to hurt somebody. What

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<v Speaker 5>I do see is an administration coming in saying I'm

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<v Speaker 5>willing to be transparent and tell the American people what

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02:13:31.920 --> 02:13:35.079
<v Speaker 5>is actually going on with their government. And I love

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that they're talking about cutting, meaning you have

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02:13:38.560 --> 02:13:42.840
<v Speaker 5>from Eli Musk and the VIC saying hey, listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to look at our budgets, see what we've been

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02:13:45.239 --> 02:13:48.239
<v Speaker 5>buying in the Pentagon or or what kind of studies

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02:13:48.319 --> 02:13:51.880
<v Speaker 5>like monkey studies I've heard about on TV that we've

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02:13:51.920 --> 02:13:54.840
<v Speaker 5>been funding with our government, and look at those things

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<v Speaker 5>and say, are those those are those priorities for the

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<v Speaker 5>United States of America. If they're not, we've got to

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<v Speaker 5>cut them. And I loved your show at the beginning

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02:14:02.880 --> 02:14:06.359
<v Speaker 5>when you said, hey, this is about groceries. This election

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02:14:06.600 --> 02:14:08.960
<v Speaker 5>was I just laughed. We would just say, hey, this

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02:14:09.159 --> 02:14:12.640
<v Speaker 5>is about groceries, and it was so simple and it

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02:14:12.760 --> 02:14:16.760
<v Speaker 5>was so true. He didn't say inflation, he said groceries.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what this election was about. And if he

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<v Speaker 5>can bring those prices down, if he can if he

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02:14:21.560 --> 02:14:23.920
<v Speaker 5>can bring peace around the United States of America, this

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be a great administration for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be great to see. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you talk about and going back, did

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<v Speaker 1>this even ties in to what we were talking to

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02:14:33.399 --> 02:14:36.840
<v Speaker 1>brad Winstrop about, Because it's the it's the bloat, it's

2375
02:14:36.920 --> 02:14:40.439
<v Speaker 1>the inefficiency, it's the waste of this government and the

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02:14:40.840 --> 02:14:43.880
<v Speaker 1>size and scope of the federal bureaucracy that we have

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<v Speaker 1>that got us into this Wuhan situation to begin with,

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02:14:47.880 --> 02:14:50.279
<v Speaker 1>because all this money was going to the Wuhan Lab

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<v Speaker 1>in China to pay for all this research that they

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02:14:52.720 --> 02:14:55.319
<v Speaker 1>were not supposed to be paying for. And Fanci said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I signed off on, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>few billion here and a few billion there. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it's for. They put it in

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02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:03.880
<v Speaker 1>front of me, eye sign it. The money goes out

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<v Speaker 1>the door with someone else. Is someone else's job to

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02:15:06.640 --> 02:15:08.960
<v Speaker 1>account for all that, not me, you know, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's spending all that money, and the and the way

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<v Speaker 1>it's set up that kind of I don't know if

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02:15:14.439 --> 02:15:16.319
<v Speaker 1>it's ever going to change, but at least the way

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02:15:16.359 --> 02:15:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of thinking about it might have to change. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what this the Doge Committee is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to do the best at.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think this notion where we see pictures of

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<v Speaker 5>federal employees taking bubble baths and and and saying they're

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<v Speaker 5>working from home. There's one thing that there's one thing

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<v Speaker 5>that people might even know what you and I talking about.

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<v Speaker 13>But the ouse there there's god yeah, yeah, that are

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<v Speaker 13>literally in a bubble bath. I mean, if that's what

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<v Speaker 13>you're doing, you know, with our federal dowts, there are

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<v Speaker 13>people that work from home every day.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes all the sense in the world. But but

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02:15:49.159 --> 02:15:51.720
<v Speaker 5>there are people that need to come back in. That

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<v Speaker 5>would be one of them who's taking images of himself

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<v Speaker 5>nude in a in a in a bathtub. And by

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<v Speaker 5>the way, when I look at this case that's breaking

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<v Speaker 5>right now with p Diddy, right, Beyonce and jay Z,

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<v Speaker 5>I want everybody to hear what I'm saying. Listen, don't

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<v Speaker 5>defend it. This is an Epstein situation on fire. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a mess out here. This is gonna get really messy.

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<v Speaker 5>And with Beyonce out trying to endorse Vice President Harris,

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<v Speaker 5>all of these things at the end could have all

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<v Speaker 5>been connected. Right. People could have been trying to cover

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<v Speaker 5>their hindsight, just like icy President Biden when he says

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<v Speaker 5>he's gonna he might partner his brother. We have no

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<v Speaker 5>idea here but to wake up and see these headlines

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02:16:38.120 --> 02:16:40.760
<v Speaker 5>where these two men are being accused of raping a

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<v Speaker 5>thirteen year old child, where one rate the other watched,

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<v Speaker 5>one rate the other watched, and there were other people

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<v Speaker 5>there in the room. If any version of this is true,

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<v Speaker 5>these people should be under the jail, never to see

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<v Speaker 5>the light ever again. And that has to be our position,

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<v Speaker 5>Dead Carroll. Now, I believe that people are innocent and

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02:17:01.200 --> 02:17:03.799
<v Speaker 5>tell proving guilty. But I'm letting you know there's enough

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<v Speaker 5>out there with P Diddy, with these videos, and you

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02:17:06.680 --> 02:17:08.719
<v Speaker 5>go out there and you see sympathy for this man,

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02:17:08.959 --> 02:17:11.639
<v Speaker 5>there should be no sympathy. We should be trying to

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<v Speaker 5>find out the number of children that this man has

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<v Speaker 5>probably destroyed their lives. Terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always people out there that want to prevent us

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<v Speaker 1>from seeing the truth. And as our friend Bill Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>likes to say, the truth sell sevent you free, Chris smithvan.

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<v Speaker 5>With that so much, Dan Carroll, appreciate you man. People

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<v Speaker 5>can follow me on x at vote Smitherman and I

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<v Speaker 5>tweeted you all the time. I hope you watch it, babe.

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<v Speaker 5>I do take care, have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Great all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother, brother, You're the best. Chris Smithvan, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with that we will get to a break. We're

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit late for Dan Carroll, for Brian Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>on fifty five krc DE talk station this Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep your doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five krs the talk station if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get on board and weigh in on what Chris Smithman

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<v Speaker 1>had to say or Congressman Winstrom five three seven, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred, those are the numbers to call. And Brad

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<v Speaker 1>Winstrom just did a great job with this Select Subcommittee

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<v Speaker 1>on the coronavirus pandemic. He put out a thumbnail sketch

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<v Speaker 1>of the report in a press release, and it talks

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<v Speaker 1>about the origin, talks about gain of function research, talks

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<v Speaker 1>about EcoHealth Alliance under the leadership of doctor Peter Dazac,

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02:18:28.079 --> 02:18:31.719
<v Speaker 1>used US taxpayer dollars to facilitate dangerous gain of function

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<v Speaker 1>research in Wuhan. After these Select Subcommittee released evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>EcoHealth violating the terms of its NIH grant, the US

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Health and Human Services commenced official debarment proceedings

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<v Speaker 1>suspended all funds to EcoHealth. New evidence also shows the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice has opened to investigation into Ecohealth's pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>Eric era activities. So I mean this whole thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what a great conversation about the pandemic and

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening during that time. And it's amazing how

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<v Speaker 1>much how much was out there and how much was forgotten.

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<v Speaker 1>And in real time there were people saying this isn't right.

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<v Speaker 1>These things should not be happening this way. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying during all this was that the government

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<v Speaker 1>has gone too far. You've got too many people. And

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<v Speaker 1>it happened here in Ohio, and it happened in another

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02:19:26.520 --> 02:19:31.200
<v Speaker 1>states who were drunk with power that they normally didn't have,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just went too far with some of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And the whole notion about suspending the constitution in order

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with this pandemic. We cannot let that happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got to get to a quick break here

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll take some of your phone calls five one, three, seven,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five hundred as we wrap up this final segment

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<v Speaker 1>of Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas on the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five KRC morning show, The Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 3>Leaks Clogs low Water Practice eight forty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>On this Monday morning, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas five

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<v Speaker 1>one three seven fifty five hundred. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>weigh in this morning, let's go to Milford and say

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<v Speaker 1>hey to Steve. Steve you're on fifty five KRZ.

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<v Speaker 9>Good morning, great show, Thank you, Steve. I've got a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of research on vaccines, especially coronavirus, and the truth

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02:20:21.520 --> 02:20:23.639
<v Speaker 9>is out there. There are a lot of medical truth tellers.

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<v Speaker 9>The people at risk from COVID nineteen were the elderly

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<v Speaker 9>with comorbidities, compromise immune systems. Young people were not at

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<v Speaker 9>risk and the vaccine was a greater risk to them

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<v Speaker 9>than the disease.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I mean, Steve, I think you're right

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But the thing is, and I and I

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<v Speaker 1>touched on this with brad winstrip is that why if

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<v Speaker 1>you remember why all this was going on, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff was being called out in real time,

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<v Speaker 1>and the and just the idea that you would suggest

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<v Speaker 1>something different, or you would suggest that something needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be looked at aside or something that was different from

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<v Speaker 1>the official government narrative was put down, was frowned upon,

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<v Speaker 1>You were maligned, you were made fun of. No, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to trust the science that comes from where only

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<v Speaker 1>the government and nowhere else. And that is I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that that is so far from the American way, so

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<v Speaker 1>far from the things that make our country great. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the sort of thing that I was railing against

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<v Speaker 1>the entire time the pandemic was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you one hundred percent, Steve. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>you checking in today, Thank you very much. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the I mean, and the and the report and

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<v Speaker 1>the thumbnail sketch that the brad Winstrop put out was

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<v Speaker 1>just fantastic. And I'll go back to the origins of

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<v Speaker 1>the coronavirus and the most likely it's most likely that

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<v Speaker 1>the coronavirus emerged from a lab and will hunt China.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've got a lot of great points here. They

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<v Speaker 1>make five different points in this and Number one, the

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<v Speaker 1>virus possesses a biological or possesses a biological charistic that

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<v Speaker 1>is not found in nature. That to me seems like

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<v Speaker 1>pretty conclusive evidence that the virus came from the lab.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, data shows that all COVID nineteen cases stem

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<v Speaker 1>from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to

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<v Speaker 1>previous pandemics where multiple spillover events. Number three, Wuhan is

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<v Speaker 1>the home of China's foremost Stars Research Lab, which has

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<v Speaker 1>a history of conducting gain of function research at inadequate

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<v Speaker 1>biosafety levels. Number four Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers were

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<v Speaker 1>sick with a COVID like virus in the fall of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, months before COVID nineteen team was discovered at

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<v Speaker 1>the wet market. And I can remember back to those

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<v Speaker 1>days where we first heard a few scattered reports of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember watching what I might have been CNN

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<v Speaker 1>one night and there was a commentator on CNN and

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<v Speaker 1>this was probably in October or November of that year,

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<v Speaker 1>and this commentator on CNN said, after the first of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, this, this Wuhan virus, this China virus, is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the major story that everyone is talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember thinking to myself at the time, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's right. You know, these medical stories, these

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<v Speaker 1>virus stories, and right like the.

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<v Speaker 5>What was it?

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<v Speaker 1>The what was that one called Joe with the cow

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<v Speaker 1>not the cow virus? Yeah, mad cow, that's it. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the mad cow that was out there for what about

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<v Speaker 1>two or three weeks and everyone was all concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>the mad cow. All the jokes are being made and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that went away after a short amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this would go the same way back then,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course it did not, and we're still talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it today.

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<v Speaker 3>Number five.

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<v Speaker 1>By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of a natural origin, it would have already surfaced. So

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this and there's I guess we still

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<v Speaker 1>need to sort of cross that final threshold before we

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<v Speaker 1>can say that it definitively came from a lab. But

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Windsurp was great on that, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank him once again for being here today. You can

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<v Speaker 1>look for him to do future shows with Brian Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>on this, and I mean, there is just so much

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about from the five hundred plus page report

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<v Speaker 1>that his committee has put out. In any case, that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to do it for me. I am out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. Joe Strecker, thank you for everything, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>having me in. And later this month I get to

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<v Speaker 1>do a couple of more days of the Brian Thomas Show,

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<v Speaker 1>so I am certainly looking forward to that. Until next time,

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<v Speaker 1>all the best to you. Have a great day, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you next time here on fifty five KRC

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<v Speaker 1>the talk station.

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<v Speaker 3>Your voice.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 3>Your country gives us all some what to think about

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