Speaker 1: I could just let this play all morning long. I
Speaker 1: knew it was coming, but it still sounds awesome. Little
Speaker 1: Van Hallen on a Monday morning.
Speaker 2: I my night.
Speaker 3: To morrow and good morning.
Speaker 1: It's Stan Carrell in for Brian Thomas, Joe Strecker rolling
Speaker 1: out the Van Hallen.
Speaker 3: You gotta love it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've been here behind this
Speaker 1: microphone in the studio and I look around and I
Speaker 1: see that nothing has changed. Well, there there's a there's
Speaker 1: a few more pieces of I'm just the things in boxes,
Speaker 1: and uh, there's there's an old clock radio in the corner.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that is lying around. But the camera that
Speaker 1: used to be in here is I don't it's not.
Speaker 1: That's not hooked up anymore. There are still one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: five giant TVs in here. Not a single one of
Speaker 1: them works. And yeah, you're you're in this studio. It is, Joey.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sitting in the studio.
Speaker 1: It is like I am totally isolated from the outside world.
Speaker 1: The only window I have to the outside world is
Speaker 1: a computer I have in front of me, and thank
Speaker 1: God for that.
Speaker 3: It works quite well.
Speaker 1: But now my pleasure to be here and sitting in
Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas and talking to the great and loyal
Speaker 1: and outstanding audience, a fifty five KRC and Brian Thomas.
Speaker 1: I think Brian's back tomorrow. We have we have a
Speaker 1: big day. This is going to be a big day today.
Speaker 1: It's in the seven o'clock hour. Congressman brad winstrip is
Speaker 1: going to be here. And brad Winstrop has been as
Speaker 1: you know he is. This is it for him, this
Speaker 1: is his last go around. He decided not to run
Speaker 1: for re election. And just recently, I want to say
Speaker 1: it was Thursday or Friday last week, maybe Tuesday, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It was one day last week that his
Speaker 1: Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic wrapped up its two
Speaker 1: year investigation and they have put out a report that
Speaker 1: is over five hundred pages long. And I was scrolling
Speaker 1: through this report over the weekend and writing down a
Speaker 1: lot of questions that I have for the congressman. But
Speaker 1: as you look at this, it is absolutely amazing. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are so many elements to this whole thing and
Speaker 1: the Wuhan virus and what happened and what government did
Speaker 1: and what government didn't do what Fauci did, and and
Speaker 1: all the rest of it, and every single one of
Speaker 1: these elements, the money that was spent, the money that
Speaker 1: was wasted, the money that was that was stolen, every
Speaker 1: single one of these things is an absolute scandal on
Speaker 1: its own. And and when you look at what happened
Speaker 1: during this period of time, you've got scandal on top
Speaker 1: of scandal on top of scandal, just one piled up
Speaker 1: after the other, and so much unconstitutional activity. And the
Speaker 1: thing is when you when you read about it and
Speaker 1: when you look at it, people like Brian Thomas were
Speaker 1: calling it out in real time. There there are some
Speaker 1: show hosts down the hall that we're calling it out
Speaker 1: in real time on this station.
Speaker 3: And some of.
Speaker 1: The some of the network hosts were called it out
Speaker 1: in real time. So the things that are revealed and
Speaker 1: talked about in this report to this audience, to people
Speaker 1: who pay attention are really, I don't want to say
Speaker 1: they're nothing new. I mean, and it's I think it's
Speaker 1: important that we have and accounting like this of how
Speaker 1: things really happen. But we saw all this happen in
Speaker 1: real time, and yet nothing was done about it. It
Speaker 1: was all allowed to happen as if that's just the
Speaker 1: way we do business now. And so we are going
Speaker 1: to talk to brad Winstrop about that and the thing
Speaker 1: my first question is, well, one of my first questions
Speaker 1: to him is going to be that when committees like
Speaker 1: this get formed, when these sort of investigations take place,
Speaker 1: when it comes to the federal government, far too often
Speaker 1: the outcome is predetermined. How often do we hear.
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 1: Was like, well, I can think of several examples, but
Speaker 1: one is the impeachment inquiry. Okay, when Republicans started the
Speaker 1: impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden, you had all the Democrats
Speaker 1: who were objecting to this because they were already jumping
Speaker 1: ahead to the end. Well, you don't have the votes
Speaker 1: to impeach. Yeah, yeah, you're never going to impeach. The
Speaker 1: Senate's never going to convict him in a trial in
Speaker 1: the Senate. This is a waste of time. Why even
Speaker 1: bother to do it? Well, you bother to do it
Speaker 1: because the investigation is worthwhile. And when you look at
Speaker 1: the report that came out, what was it a month
Speaker 1: or so ago about all that? Maybe it was more
Speaker 1: than a month ago, but it was a while ago.
Speaker 1: I lose track of time. I mean, there's so there's
Speaker 1: so much water that goes under the bridge, and when
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this stuff on a daily basis, it
Speaker 1: feels like it was about a month ago.
Speaker 3: It might have been more.
Speaker 1: In any case, the report came out talking about all
Speaker 1: the things that the Biden.
Speaker 3: Crime family had done.
Speaker 1: When you talk about Hunter Biden, when you talk about
Speaker 1: all the companies that they formed, all the money, the
Speaker 1: millions of dollars that was going from Ukraine, from Uzbekistan,
Speaker 1: from China into the Biden family, all that stuff. And
Speaker 1: again that's just one aspect of what by was up
Speaker 1: to and the impeachment inquiry. So it's my way of thinking,
Speaker 1: it's important to do these investigations to look at it.
Speaker 1: But you have Democrats jumping ahead saying, no, why even bother,
Speaker 1: it's a waste of time. No, it's not a waste
Speaker 1: of time. I never thought Joe Biden was going to
Speaker 1: be impeached. Obviously, that was never going to happen. But
Speaker 1: that's not what matters. Having the information on record for
Speaker 1: historical purposes, I suppose, So my way of thinking, that's
Speaker 1: what's important, and maybe someday there'll be a prosecution.
Speaker 3: Who knows.
Speaker 1: And it's funny Barack Obama's out there over the weekend
Speaker 1: given a speech.
Speaker 3: I mean, that guy is.
Speaker 1: It is amazing to see how much juice that guy
Speaker 1: has lost. And I think it's all thanks to the Trumpster.
Speaker 1: But getting back to Brad Weinster, so so many times
Speaker 1: when committees like this or formed, investigations are done, the
Speaker 1: people who were on the committee, like the January sixth committee,
Speaker 1: right when that committee formed, it had one purpose in mind,
Speaker 1: and that was to blame Donald Trump for what happened
Speaker 1: on January sixth. And I have to admit when Liz Cheney,
Speaker 1: and when Liz Cheney was the co chair of that committee,
Speaker 1: I held out a little bit of hope because for
Speaker 1: a long time Liz Cheney was not really a leader
Speaker 1: in the conservative movement, but a person who who seemed
Speaker 1: at least somewhat reasonable when it came to talking about
Speaker 1: and furthering the conservative cause. Now, of course, she's a
Speaker 1: Bush Republican. Her dad was his vice president. Dick Cheney
Speaker 1: got a lot of I had a lot of respect
Speaker 1: for Dick Cheney. I think that guy is. I think
Speaker 1: his mind is going the same way as Joe Biden's
Speaker 1: is so Dick Cheney's not as sharp as he used
Speaker 1: to be, and I think she takes a lot of
Speaker 1: her advice from her dad. But I held out hope
Speaker 1: that she would once she started seeing the truth of
Speaker 1: some of these matters, she would stand up and say,
Speaker 1: you know, call the balls and strikes when it came
Speaker 1: to what really happened on January sixth. But no, she
Speaker 1: was hell bent on blaming Trump. So that was their
Speaker 1: end goal. That's where they wanted to go from the
Speaker 1: very beginning. I don't think that this committee had that
Speaker 1: mindset going into this. So I'll talk to Brad Winster
Speaker 1: about that. In the seven o'clock hour, he'll be here
Speaker 1: in studio and we'll spend the whole hour with him.
Speaker 1: So I am really looking forward to that happening a
Speaker 1: little bit later today. And then Chris Smitherman will be
Speaker 1: here in the eight o'clock hour. I know you're thinking
Speaker 1: to yourself, well, seven thirty, that's Chris Smithment time, that's
Speaker 1: a smith event. Chris Smithervent has graciously agreed to move
Speaker 1: to the eight o'clock hour, so we will have Chris
Speaker 1: Smithman then. So that is what is going to happen
Speaker 1: on the show a little bit later on. But we
Speaker 1: got to get to a break here and we'll do
Speaker 1: a little weather. I think Chuck is in today. It
Speaker 1: is raining outside, and so we'll talk about that as
Speaker 1: we roll on. Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas on
Speaker 1: this beautiful Monday morning on fifty five KRCV Talk stage.
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Speaker 3: write the phone number down again. Let's see if I
Speaker 3: can remember off the top of my head. Five one
Speaker 3: three seven one.
Speaker 1: Seven nine. I better write this down. What is it again,
Speaker 1: Joe seven fifty five hundred. It has been so long
Speaker 1: since I it has been months since I have been
Speaker 1: been here on the morning show. And I saw I
Speaker 1: sent a text to Joe, I don't know, three or
Speaker 1: four weeks ago. I said, hey, man, I said, you know,
Speaker 1: one of these times when Brian Thomas takes off, I'm available.
Speaker 3: And so here I am.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear a lot about the fourteenth Amendment, I
Speaker 1: think in the news today and the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: Why well, because Donald Trump had a little sit down
Speaker 1: on NBC and the interview with Kristen Welker ran on
Speaker 1: Meet the Press. I think she recorded it when Trump
Speaker 1: was in France for the reopening of the Notere Dame Cathedral,
Speaker 1: and I think they had a little sit down and
Speaker 1: the interview ran on Meet the Press. I did not
Speaker 1: watch it. I'm kicking I was kicking myself yesterday. I
Speaker 1: planned to watch it because it's part of my job,
Speaker 1: but I enjoy watching those sorts of things. But I
Speaker 1: have to be honest, did not watch the entire interview.
Speaker 1: Read about it. I've got a ton of clips here
Speaker 1: from it. And one of the things we're going to
Speaker 1: be hearing about is the fourteenth Amendment. Why Why?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 1: Because Kristin Walker, according to Mike Lee, misrepresented what the
Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment is all about. And let's see, I know
Speaker 1: I had this right in front of me. Senator Mike
Speaker 1: Lee took NBC News to task for the selectively omitting
Speaker 1: a key part of the Fourteenth Amendment, and a question
Speaker 1: about birthright citizenship during an interview with President Donald Trump
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Trump was asked about a number of changes
Speaker 1: he intends to implement once he assumes office during a
Speaker 1: sit down release on NBC's Meet the Press, including his
Speaker 1: planned and birthright citizenship. Under the fourteenth Amendment, someone born
Speaker 1: in the US's granted citizenship regardless of whether their parents
Speaker 1: are citizens. That is not exactly true, but Kristin Welker
Speaker 1: went a step further, saying, the fourteenth Amendment states that
Speaker 1: all persons in the United States are citizens, and that
Speaker 1: is that is again, that is not true either. So
Speaker 1: let me let's see what I've got. I've got a
Speaker 1: lot of cuts here and Trump, I think Trump was
Speaker 1: was terrific in this interview. Was the first time he's
Speaker 1: done to sit down since the since the election. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's just start with cut number one. Joe
Speaker 1: and this is uh, towards the beginning of the interview,
Speaker 1: and Kristen Welker got off to a little bit of
Speaker 1: a rough start here.
Speaker 3: Cut one, Sir, I.
Speaker 7: Don't have to tell you this because you've talked about it.
Speaker 8: It comes at a time when the country is deeply divided,
Speaker 8: and now you're going to be leading this country for
Speaker 8: the next four years for.
Speaker 7: The sake of unifying this country.
Speaker 8: Well, you concede the twenty twenty election and turn the
Speaker 8: page on that chapter.
Speaker 2: No, oh, why would I do that? But let me
Speaker 2: just tell you.
Speaker 4: When you say the country is deeply divided, I'm not
Speaker 4: the president.
Speaker 2: Kill Biden's de pressient, but.
Speaker 7: You're going to be the president.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not the president. So when you say it
Speaker 4: staply divided, I agree. But Biden's the president, I'm not.
Speaker 4: And he has been a divider and you know where
Speaker 4: he divided it more than anything else.
Speaker 2: And they're probably backfired on him.
Speaker 4: I think definitely his weaponization when he weaponized the Justice
Speaker 4: Department and he went after his political opponent. Me, He
Speaker 4: went after his political opponent violently because he knew he
Speaker 4: couldn't beat him. And I think it really was a
Speaker 4: bad thing and it really divided our country.
Speaker 8: So Democrats have control of the White House now they
Speaker 8: didn't in twenty twenty. If they are going around stealing
Speaker 8: elections more.
Speaker 2: When you say Democrats have control.
Speaker 8: Now of the White House, yeah, so why didn't they
Speaker 8: steal this election since they have more power now?
Speaker 4: Because I think it was too big to rig. I
Speaker 4: love that, So you won't too big to rig.
Speaker 8: To the people who say that, you're now directing.
Speaker 7: Your Justice Department to investigate.
Speaker 8: Twenty four they want to move is going to be
Speaker 8: great resources to do.
Speaker 2: I have the right to do that, but I'm not
Speaker 2: interested in that. You're not.
Speaker 9: You're not.
Speaker 2: I'm not interested. I have the absolute right. I'm the
Speaker 2: chief law enforcement officer. You do know that. I'm the president,
Speaker 2: I'm the But I'm not interested in that.
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm interested in drilling and getting prices
Speaker 4: down and stopping people from pouring into our border that
Speaker 4: come from prisons.
Speaker 2: And mental institutions.
Speaker 1: So that is fantastic right there. I'm not interested in
Speaker 1: that now, Pam BONDI might be interested in that. Some
Speaker 1: of the other people I bring into the cabinet, they
Speaker 1: might be interested in that.
Speaker 3: I'll let them do their own business.
Speaker 1: You know, cash, buttell at the FBI, yeah, he might
Speaker 1: be interested in that. I'll leave that to them. I've
Speaker 1: got a drill. I've got to get prices down. We
Speaker 1: got to get the economy going again. That is what
Speaker 1: Trump is talking about. And they are in people like
Speaker 1: Kristin Welker and the left, they are so hell bent
Speaker 1: on making sure that Trump talks about And again, how
Speaker 1: many times have we heard that Trump doesn't want to
Speaker 1: let go of the twenty twenty election whenever and this
Speaker 1: was true during the campaign. The only time he talked
Speaker 1: about it is when he's asked about it, and he's
Speaker 1: asked about it constantly, and that was one of the
Speaker 1: first things that she talked about. What about the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty election is? I mean, we're way past that. That
Speaker 1: is in the rear view mirror now. If people are
Speaker 1: going to throw it up to him and ask him
Speaker 1: about it, well they have them.
Speaker 3: He's going to talk about unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not unbelievad it's par for the course. But
Speaker 1: we got a whole bunch more of the Trump audio
Speaker 1: from yesterday, so we were rolling that out during the course,
Speaker 1: and then we will compare that in contrast with some
Speaker 1: of the things that Joe Biden had to say about Syria.
Speaker 1: But we got to get to a break, so we
Speaker 1: will do that now as we roll on till nine
Speaker 1: o'clock this morning. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas fifty five
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Speaker 3: What's up everybody ever see the talk station Dan Carolyn
Speaker 3: for Brian Thomas this morning.
Speaker 1: And I was talking earlier about how we're gonna hear
Speaker 1: a lot about the fourteenth Amendment. I think during the
Speaker 1: course of the the news day today it probably ensoed
Speaker 1: tomorrow as well. And I was looking at the roster
Speaker 1: that I have with the sound bites that I pulled
Speaker 1: from this and the one SoundBite that I don't have
Speaker 1: is Trump talking about uh families being deported.
Speaker 3: And she was talking about, well, what about the families.
Speaker 1: They're so concerned and Trump knows what's coming and he
Speaker 1: and he said right to her, he said, look, we're
Speaker 1: going to see the video of the moms crying, the
Speaker 1: families that are that are huddled together, and and he said,
Speaker 1: and she talked about, you know, family separation. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: going to be so horrible, and it's going to be
Speaker 1: so terrible when these deportations start. And Trump said what
Speaker 1: Tom Homan said a few weeks ago, they can be
Speaker 1: deported together. In fact, the Biden administration is doing it
Speaker 1: and has been doing it the entire time, not to
Speaker 1: the degree that Trump will do it, but they've been
Speaker 1: doing it. And when we talked about the fourteenth Amendment,
Speaker 1: I was reminded of a piece that Ann Coulter wrote
Speaker 1: years ago. Actually, if this piece is from back in
Speaker 1: twenty ten, and she talks about the fourteenth Amendment, and
Speaker 1: she talks about Justice Brennan's footnote gave us anchor babies
Speaker 1: and Democrats. And it's funny because this piece is from
Speaker 1: nineteen or I'm sorry, twenty ten, so it's fourteen years ago,
Speaker 1: and the issue is still as relevant today as it
Speaker 1: was at that time. And and Culture writes, Democrats act
Speaker 1: as if the right to run across the border when
Speaker 1: you are eight months pregnant, give birth in a US hospital,
Speaker 1: and then immediately start collecting welfare was exactly what our
Speaker 1: forebears had in mind, a sacred constitutional right as old
Speaker 1: as the Fourteenth Amendment itself. The louder liberals talk about
Speaker 1: some ancient constitutional right, the sure you should be that
Speaker 1: it was invented in the last few decades. In fact,
Speaker 1: this ledge right derives only from a footnote slide slyly
Speaker 1: slipped into a Supreme Court opinion by Justice Brennan in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. You might say it snuck in when
Speaker 1: no one was looking, and now we have to let
Speaker 1: it stay.
Speaker 3: The Fourteenth Amendment was added after the Civil.
Speaker 1: War in order to overrule the Supreme Court's dread Scott decision,
Speaker 1: which had held that black slaves were not citizens of
Speaker 1: the United States. The precise purpose of the amendment was
Speaker 1: to stop sleazy Southern states from denying citizenship rights to
Speaker 1: newly freed slaves, many of whom had roots in this
Speaker 1: country longer than a lot of white people.
Speaker 3: The amendment guarantee.
Speaker 1: That free slaves would have had all the privileges of
Speaker 1: citizenship by providing all persons born or naturalized in the
Speaker 1: United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens
Speaker 1: of the United States and the state wherein they resigned.
Speaker 1: The drafters of the Fourteenth Amendment had no intention of
Speaker 1: conferring citizenship on children of aliens who happened to be
Speaker 1: born in the US, inasmuch as Americans or America was
Speaker 1: not the massive welfare state operating as a magnet form aligners,
Speaker 1: frauds and cheats that it is today. It's amazing the
Speaker 1: drafters even considered the amendments effect on the children of
Speaker 1: aliens what they did. The very author of the citizenship clause,
Speaker 1: Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan, expressly said this will not,
Speaker 1: of course, include persons born in the United States who
Speaker 1: are foreigners. Aliens who belonged to the families of ambassadors
Speaker 1: are foreign ministers. In eighteen eighty four, a case called
Speaker 1: Elk versus Wilkins, a Supreme Court ruled the Fourteenth Amendment
Speaker 1: did not even confer citizenship on Indians because they're subject
Speaker 1: to tribal jurisdiction, not US jurisdiction. For one hundred years,
Speaker 1: that's how it stood, with only one case. Adding to
Speaker 1: the caveat, the children born to legal permanent residents of
Speaker 1: the US gainfully employed who were not employed by a
Speaker 1: foreign government would also be deemed citizens under the fourteenth Amendment,
Speaker 1: and then out of the blue.
Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 1: Justice Brennan slipped a footnote into his five to four
Speaker 1: opinion in Pliler versus Doe, asserting that no plausible distinction
Speaker 1: with respect to the Fourteenth Amendment jurisdiction can be drawn
Speaker 1: between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was
Speaker 1: lawful and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful. Bretan's authority
Speaker 1: for this lunatic statement was that it appeared in a
Speaker 1: nineteen twelve book written by Clement L. Bove Both was
Speaker 1: not a senator, not an elected official, not a judge,
Speaker 1: just some guy who wrote a book. So on one hand,
Speaker 1: we have the history, the objective, the author's intent, and
Speaker 1: one hundred years of history of the fourteenth Amendment which
Speaker 1: says the Fourteenth Amendment does not confer citizenship on children
Speaker 1: born to illegal immigrants. On the other hand, we have
Speaker 1: a random outburst by some guy named Clement, whom I'm
Speaker 1: guessing was too cheap to hire an American housekeeper. So
Speaker 1: and Culter explains how we got to the point where
Speaker 1: we have the notion that if you're an illegal alien
Speaker 1: in the country and you give birth to a child,
Speaker 1: that somehow that child is a citizen too, also known
Speaker 1: as anchor babies. And Trump wants to bring an end
Speaker 1: to that and all the horror, all the horror that
Speaker 1: is going to follow, and we'll be hearing a ton
Speaker 1: about that in the week ahead. Five point thirty five.
Speaker 1: We got to get to a break. Dan Kell for
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas on fifty five KRC. The talk stays it's
Speaker 1: the marketers reporting fifty five hundred, Is that right, Joe,
Speaker 1: all right? I got it right, five three seven, fifty
Speaker 1: five hundred. That is the number if you want to
Speaker 1: check in this morning. Probably the best story of the
Speaker 1: day is that Dave Parker has been elected to the
Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame, and congratulations to him. Cincinnati navid native,
Speaker 1: former Red Star selected Sunday to the National Baseball Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Former outfeater was elected through the Classic base
Speaker 1: Ball Era Committee ballot, according to Mike Dyer, and that
Speaker 1: is just that that's probably the best news of the day.
Speaker 1: When you talk about local news, the other local news
Speaker 1: sort of goes like this twenty year old woman is
Speaker 1: dead after shooting overnight in Mount Airy. Cincinnati police said,
Speaker 1: I believe this was Saturday and a Sunday. Police arrived
Speaker 1: in the forty nine hundred block of Trail Ridge Road
Speaker 1: just before twelve thirty in the morning. An unresponsive person
Speaker 1: was in the road. Upon arrival, police found Laina or
Speaker 1: Lanya Dawson on the road with a gunshot wound, treated
Speaker 1: by first responders and then determined that she was deceased.
Speaker 1: So three five to two thirty five forty two. That's
Speaker 1: the homage idea in it. Three five thirty forty is
Speaker 1: crime Stoppers if you have any information about that, or
Speaker 1: if you have any information about a shooting in the
Speaker 1: west End. A twenty nine year old man hospitalized Sunday
Speaker 1: after a shooting in the west End eleven hundred block
Speaker 1: of Lynn Street, four o'clock in the afternoon. This person
Speaker 1: is in stable condition three five two forty if you
Speaker 1: have any information on that? What else do we have?
Speaker 1: In Westchester? Westchester Township? I believe that is Butler County,
Speaker 1: Ohio man is dead shot by a resident when breaking
Speaker 1: into his Westchester apartment. Police went to the apartment complex
Speaker 1: on Shawnee Lane early Sunday morning. Officers found a man
Speaker 1: who lived in one of the apartments, heard noises on
Speaker 1: the balcony, and he found and shot a man who
Speaker 1: had broken into his home. The intruder has not been identified,
Speaker 1: taken to the hospital with life threatening injuries. The shooting
Speaker 1: is under investigation. I would imagine, though, that if this
Speaker 1: narrative is true, that individual is unlikely to face charges.
Speaker 1: You're break into someone's home, you have to expect that
Speaker 1: sort of thing, unless it's Hamilton. Hamilton County. As we know,
Speaker 1: Joe Strucker is a different story. Oh man, it's not funny.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't I shouldn't be laughing. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that, you know, the situation that we have
Speaker 1: with judges here in Hamilton County is it's despicable. I mean,
Speaker 1: it really is restorative justice? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: John?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the I've read so many
Speaker 1: stories recently about restorative justice.
Speaker 3: That the prosecutor I was That's it.
Speaker 1: I was on I was over on seven hundred over
Speaker 1: the weekend doing a show there, and I was talking
Speaker 1: about the prosecutor, not Alvin Bragg, but the uh, the
Speaker 1: prosecutor who's actually trying the case against Penny in New York.
Speaker 1: And that trial resumes today after the jury has been
Speaker 1: sent home. That jury's not sequestered. You know that that.
Speaker 3: Jury goes home. I guess they go home.
Speaker 1: They're free to look at the internet, they're free to
Speaker 1: look at the news, they do do whatever they want.
Speaker 1: But that jury comes back today to consider a lesser charge.
Speaker 1: But Daphne Yorn is this prosecutor's name, And there's audio
Speaker 1: an interview that she did some time ago talking about
Speaker 1: a murder case she had and it's all on video.
Speaker 1: An older gentleman was at an ATM. This thug comes
Speaker 1: up and robs the guy, shoves him to the ground.
Speaker 1: The eighty seven year old victim winds him dying. A
Speaker 1: clear cut case or murder, and then she says, but
Speaker 1: you know, once I took the time to look at
Speaker 1: at the background of the perpetrator, I felt sorry for him,
Speaker 1: so we dropped the charges. That's how these restorative justice
Speaker 1: people and these prosecutors.
Speaker 3: Spence justice.
Speaker 1: And with a new prosecutor coming into Hamilton County, you'll
Speaker 1: wonder if we are headed down the same road. Five
Speaker 1: forty five Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas on fifty five
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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas. I wasn't sure if this
Speaker 1: was a song or a commercial. Joe, you heard that
Speaker 1: commercial that's using this song or rip off of this song.
Speaker 1: You never know anymore. All the classics are turning into commercials,
Speaker 1: you know. But ya these you know, the people that
Speaker 1: own the music, they're selling out, they're making money on it,
Speaker 1: and that's the name of that too. So that's just fine,
Speaker 1: somebody won the lottery over the weekend powerball jackpot two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six million dollars.
Speaker 3: Jill, you'd be good at that, wouldn't you. The ninth
Speaker 3: powerball jackpot of the year.
Speaker 1: One winning ticket sold in New York had all sat
Speaker 1: all six numbers one thirty one, forty three, fifty five,
Speaker 1: fifty seven. Darn and those were the numbers I was
Speaker 1: going to play too. Power Ball was twenty two. The
Speaker 1: lucky ticket holder has a choice between the prize of
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty six million or a lump sum
Speaker 1: of one hundred and twenty three point five million, so
Speaker 1: just about half if you take the lump sum, that's
Speaker 1: before taxes, and you cut that close to and half again.
Speaker 1: So if you take the lump sum, you wind up
Speaker 1: with in the neighborhood of what sixty five million, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe seventy out of a two hundred and fifty six
Speaker 1: million dollar prize. I don't know which way would you
Speaker 1: go on that, Joe? Would you take take it over
Speaker 1: twenty years? Would you take the lump sum? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: at this point in our life, you know, you win
Speaker 1: something like that, you spread it out over twenty years.
Speaker 1: You're pretty much guaranteed to never be broke over the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. So that's pretty good. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: sold in New York, and that's what you know. Every
Speaker 1: once in a while I'll buy those lottery tickets and
Speaker 1: my wife will say did we win?
Speaker 3: Did we win? Did we win?
Speaker 1: And I'll just all stuff them in you know, the
Speaker 1: glove compartment or a shovem and a drawer at home somewhere.
Speaker 3: Well, how do you know we.
Speaker 1: Didn't win if you didn't check it. I said, if
Speaker 1: we won, there would be an announcement on the news.
Speaker 1: Someone in Ohio won the jackpot. Then I would check
Speaker 1: my ticket, and every once in a while I'll take
Speaker 1: a stack of them and the old ones, and I'll
Speaker 1: put them under the scan. I did that a few
Speaker 1: days days ago. Was cleaning out some stuff in the
Speaker 1: car and had some old lottery tickets. Some of them
Speaker 1: had actually expired. I'm sticking them under the thing. Not
Speaker 1: a winner, not a winner, This one's expired. I gotta
Speaker 1: keep track of that bet a little bit better, all right.
Speaker 1: So congratulations to someone in New York that that won
Speaker 1: the powerball jackpot.
Speaker 3: That's nice.
Speaker 1: Let's let me see I got I've got some more
Speaker 1: Trump audio here. Let's talk about Chris and I again.
Speaker 1: Kristen Welker just you know, she's been down this road.
Speaker 1: This is not the first time she's interviewed Trump, and
Speaker 1: she she has not learned her lesson that trying to
Speaker 1: get this guy in a corner, trying to make him
Speaker 1: tuck his tail or apologize for anything. She's not learned
Speaker 1: her lesson that that is not going to work with him.
Speaker 1: And it is so obvious that anytime you get a
Speaker 1: network big shot or someone who wants to be a
Speaker 1: network big shot, they're always trying to be the one
Speaker 1: who's going to stick at the Trump and it just
Speaker 1: doesn't work. He or she is talking about what's going
Speaker 1: to happen with the FBI, and Joe, let's your cut
Speaker 1: number six?
Speaker 8: Are you going to fire the current FBI director, Christopher Ray,
Speaker 8: who you appointed.
Speaker 4: Well, I can't say I'm thrilled with him. He invaded
Speaker 4: my home. I'm suing the country over it. He invaded
Speaker 4: mar A Lago. I'm very unhappy with the things he's done.
Speaker 4: And crime isn't an all time high. Migrants are pouring
Speaker 4: into the country that are from prisons and from mental
Speaker 4: institutions as we've discussed. I can't say I'm thrilled. I
Speaker 4: don't want to say. I don't want to again. I
Speaker 4: don't want to be Joe Biden and give you an
Speaker 4: answer and then do the exact oppas.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about. So I'm not going to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 4: What I'm going to say is I certainly cannot be
Speaker 4: happy with him. You take a look at what's happened.
Speaker 4: And then when I was shot in the year he said, oh,
Speaker 4: maybe it was shrapped. Where's this shrepnel coming from? Is
Speaker 4: it coming from Is it coming from heaven? I don't
Speaker 4: think so. So we need somebody to straight You know,
Speaker 4: I have a lot of respect for the FBI, but
Speaker 4: the FBI's respect has gone way down over the last
Speaker 4: number of years.
Speaker 7: Don't you have to fire him in order to make
Speaker 7: room for.
Speaker 8: Cash Batel if he is in fact confirmed.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it would sort of seem pretty obvious
Speaker 4: that if Cash gets in, he's going to be taking
Speaker 4: somebody's place, right as somebody is the man that you're
Speaker 4: talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Kristen Walker. She's sharp, isn't she. Wouldn't you
Speaker 1: have to fire him? Hasn't Chris Ray already said that
Speaker 1: he's going to step down, hasn't he Maybe I'm mistaken
Speaker 1: about that, but he knows he you know, he knows
Speaker 1: that his time is numbered. When after January twentieth, he
Speaker 1: knows his days are numbered. And Cash Battell is going
Speaker 1: to be in there. And these Republican senators who are
Speaker 1: trying to stand in the way at Trump, I have
Speaker 1: no idea what they think they're doing. I have no
Speaker 1: idea how they can weigh the pros and cons of
Speaker 1: that and decide that trying to prevent Trump from getting
Speaker 1: his nominees in place is a good thing for them.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how they come to that conclusion.
Speaker 1: But well, I we'll talk more about that a whole
Speaker 1: lot more Trump and some Joe Biden sound bites from
Speaker 1: over the weekend. So a lot more to get to
Speaker 1: in the next hour. And it is my pleasure to
Speaker 1: be here, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas on fifty five
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Speaker 1: I had just let that sink in a little bit
Speaker 1: of little Van Halen for you on a Monday morning.
Speaker 3: You know it's bad something. And good morning.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Dan Carroll
Speaker 1: in for Brian Thomas. My pleasure to be here. As always,
Speaker 1: Joe Strucker rolling out the Van Halen. I always appreciate
Speaker 1: Joe Strucker being here. And how are you doing this morning?
Speaker 1: Great morning out there, the rain is coming down. I
Speaker 1: got up early this morning and the dog came downstairs
Speaker 1: and dog, dog's looking at me.
Speaker 3: I want to go outside. I want to go outside.
Speaker 1: I opened the door and the dog sees his rain
Speaker 1: and he's looking at me like it's raining out there.
Speaker 1: I said, I know, get on out there. And he
Speaker 1: got out there and did what he did and then
Speaker 1: came back right back in. So it was the rain
Speaker 1: is coming down. Should lighten up a little bit around
Speaker 1: nine o'clock this morning, but yeah, to just get ready
Speaker 1: for and look, you know what it's like when it rains,
Speaker 1: I mean, and the rain is coming down pretty steady,
Speaker 1: so you know what it's like when you got to
Speaker 1: get out there, So just be ready for that this
Speaker 1: morning what is going on? What is going on? Been
Speaker 1: talking a lot about the Trump interview they did on
Speaker 1: NBC over the weekend, Meet the Press on Sunday. Syria
Speaker 1: has fallen. Rebel leaders have taken over Damascus. Ali Sad
Speaker 1: has flown to Russia. Apparently that was the story I
Speaker 1: heard overnight, and then Breitbart put this up. Look, I
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about the rebel forces that have
Speaker 1: taken over. The US apparently launched some strikes in Syria too.
Speaker 1: Did you know that, Joe, Did you know that over
Speaker 1: the weekend that we sent some B fifty two's in there.
Speaker 1: We sent some F fifteen fighters in there, seventy five
Speaker 1: strategic targets, all in the further iNTS of keeping ISIS
Speaker 1: from getting back together. I guess now that ASAD has gone,
Speaker 1: ISIS wants to rise up again in Syria. So the
Speaker 1: US had over seventy five targets in Syria. Trump pretty
Speaker 1: much wants to just stand back and stay away from it.
Speaker 1: But the United States military got involved in Syria over
Speaker 1: the weekend, hitting all kinds of all kinds of targets there.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden's ready to start shoveling money out the door
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden was talking about how he's promising to
Speaker 1: stay strong on this, and he also made this ridiculous statement,
Speaker 1: Joe Let's hear cut number nine. Joe Biden here cut
Speaker 1: number nine.
Speaker 11: You know, for years the main backers of ASSAD have
Speaker 11: been Iran, Hezbalah and Russia. But over the last week
Speaker 11: their support collapsed. All three of them, there's all three
Speaker 11: of them are far weaker today than they were when
Speaker 11: I took office.
Speaker 1: Iran has a lot in Russia are weaker today than
Speaker 1: when Joe Biden took office. Is there anyone listening to
Speaker 1: this right now that believes that is true? Under Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's policies, Iran has been able to earn billions of
Speaker 1: dollars selling oil. When the sanctions were put on Iran
Speaker 1: under Trump, the money they were able to earn from
Speaker 1: oil sales was a few million. Then it turned into billions,
Speaker 1: and that in turn allowed Iran to start subsidizing it's
Speaker 1: terrorists that they support in the Middle East and elsewhere.
Speaker 1: It's same thing with Russia. Through oil sales, Russia was
Speaker 1: able to build up its forces in order to and
Speaker 1: build up its financial wherewithal in order to conduct operations
Speaker 1: going into Ukraine. So the fact that that Asad in
Speaker 1: the civil war there has got to the point where
Speaker 1: it is now Joe Biden's trying to take credit for that. No,
Speaker 1: I think you can give Israel the credit for that.
Speaker 1: Israel took out. Let me see if I can find this,
Speaker 1: and Israel was what was all over Syria, and net
Speaker 1: Yahoo was talking about that, about the things that they
Speaker 1: did in Syria. Here's what Netanyahu said, historic day for
Speaker 1: the Middle East. Collapse of the Asid regime, the tyranny
Speaker 1: and Damascus offers great opportunity. This fraught with significant dangers.
Speaker 1: The collapse is a direct result of our forceful actions
Speaker 1: against Hesbellah and Iran. Assad's main supporters set off a
Speaker 1: chain reaction.
Speaker 3: Let's see.
Speaker 1: As bright Bart News reported, the IDF moved into the
Speaker 1: demilitarized zone to the tourist Syrian rebels from attacking Israel's army.
Speaker 1: Radio also reported IDF troops took over the peak of
Speaker 1: Mount Herman on the Syrian side. So there was, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of and there was video of this that
Speaker 1: was out over the weekend of the attacks at Israel
Speaker 1: was carrying out on different areas of Syria and then
Speaker 1: this rebel leader that has taken over is an al
Speaker 1: Qaeda guy, Ahmad al Shara known as Muhammad al jaw
Speaker 1: Jawalami or I can't and I can't pronounce this other name.
Speaker 3: He's done by the.
Speaker 1: Leader of the Syrian rebels who OUs did Basar Ali
Speaker 1: Sade have taken over the country, still has a ten
Speaker 1: million dollar bounty on his head and is a wanted terrorist.
Speaker 1: So the State Department is offering a ten million dollar
Speaker 1: reward for this guy who is now in charge of Syria.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see. The guy has carried out multiple
Speaker 1: terrorist attacks throughout Syria, offering target civilian targeting civilians in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, reportedly kidnapped and later released approximately three hundred
Speaker 1: Kurdish civilians at a checkpoint in Syria. So this guy
Speaker 1: has done just all kinds of despicable stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so he uh, CNN managed to do an interview with
Speaker 1: this guy, I guess last week sometime undisclosed location in Syria.
Speaker 1: Isn't an amazing How CNN is so good at finding
Speaker 1: these terrorist leaders and doing these interviews with him, Absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: CNN knows where he is, ten million dollar bounty on
Speaker 1: his head. Then they don't well, you know they've they've
Speaker 1: got Joe says it, don't drop a diamile on. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, CNN, they've got to have that journalistic integrity,
Speaker 1: right they Yeah, there, there's very high standards there. Otherwise
Speaker 1: how could they could they not get these interviews done.
Speaker 1: One of the things I saw, and I was scrolling
Speaker 1: through my x feet during the break, is a post
Speaker 1: from Laura Trump. And Laura Trump just did a fantastic
Speaker 1: job as co chair of the of the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: and she writes this, Serving as the GOP co chair
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the most consequential election in American
Speaker 1: history has truly been the honor of my life. At
Speaker 1: the RNC, we had three distinct goals. Number one, surpass
Speaker 1: all fundraising records. Number two, build the largest army of
Speaker 1: lawyers and poll watchers to ensure election integrity. Number three,
Speaker 1: turn out millions of Americans and low propensity voters during
Speaker 1: early voting. We accomplished all three. The job I came
Speaker 1: to do is now complete, and I intend to formally
Speaker 1: step down from the RNC at our next meeting. Thank
Speaker 1: you to our incredible team at the RNC. You are amazing,
Speaker 1: and of course thank you, President Trump. Proud of you,
Speaker 1: grateful you trusted me for this position. So Laura Trump,
Speaker 1: who went in as a co chair of the RNC,
Speaker 1: and at least by the way I see it, just
Speaker 1: did a great job and made sure that this election
Speaker 1: was going to go. And she did the job that
Speaker 1: I said that the RNC have been doing a long
Speaker 1: time ago. And so she's announcing that she is preparing
Speaker 1: to step down from the RNC. And what may be
Speaker 1: next maybe Senator from Florida, Marco Rubio will likely be
Speaker 1: the Secretary of State and there'll be an open seat,
Speaker 1: and if she became a senator, I think that would
Speaker 1: be a pretty good thing. Six fifteen Dan Carolyn for
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Speaker 3: Fifty five KRC dot com run a business.
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Speaker 3: Then I mentioned brad Westrom's going to be here.
Speaker 1: In the seven o'clock hour, the Select, the Select Subcommittee
Speaker 1: on the coronavirus pandemic wrapped up. It's to your investigation
Speaker 1: and the report is out, and brad Winstrop was the
Speaker 1: chair of that and here's what he wrote to Congress
Speaker 1: about this. The COVID nineteen pandemic highlighted a distrust in leadership.
Speaker 1: Trust has earned accountability, transparency, honesty, and integrity will regain
Speaker 1: this trust. So he's trying to tell future Congresses and
Speaker 1: future governments how they need to go about their business. Transparency, honesty, accountability, integrity.
Speaker 1: We are in short supply of those things right now.
Speaker 1: A future pandemic requires a whole of American response managed
Speaker 1: by those without personal benefit or bias. We can always
Speaker 1: do better, and for the sake of future generations of Americans,
Speaker 1: we must it can be done.
Speaker 3: So he.
Speaker 1: Is not just looking at what happened with the Wuhan virus.
Speaker 1: He's looking ahead and essentially saying that these things that
Speaker 1: are laid out in the report simply cannot happen again.
Speaker 1: And it, I mean, it goes on and on and on.
Speaker 1: It talks about the funding, It talks about all the
Speaker 1: money that went out the door, talks about the failures
Speaker 1: of the NIH National Institutes of Health, talks about what
Speaker 1: Fauci did. And that's one of the things when he
Speaker 1: gets in here, I want to discuss what Fauci did,
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, it's a five hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: page report, and I think that there's probably a lot
Speaker 1: of dots in that report that if somebody wanted to
Speaker 1: go through and look at all this and look at
Speaker 1: what Fauci did, Joe, is is Fauci being looked at
Speaker 1: for for prosecution at all? Have you?
Speaker 3: Have you?
Speaker 1: I think he deserves to be I don't know that
Speaker 1: that's happening, though, And I really I can't recall if
Speaker 1: there's been any talk about anyone in the Trump administration
Speaker 1: who was looking to do that. But but I think
Speaker 1: there's there's clear and convincing evidence that Fauci lied before
Speaker 1: Congress during the multiple times.
Speaker 3: That he that he testified.
Speaker 1: I mean, and then and then this report goes on
Speaker 1: they talk about doctor David Morens, Fauci senior advisor Morans
Speaker 1: deliberately obstructed the Seleptica Committee's investigation, likely lied to Congress
Speaker 1: on multiple occasions, unlawfully deleted federal COVID nineteen records.
Speaker 3: And that has.
Speaker 1: That has been happening a lot lately over the last
Speaker 1: several years, when you have people in positions and they're
Speaker 1: they're being investigated, and it looks like the walls are closing.
Speaker 1: In what happens well, records get deleted and this is
Speaker 1: this seems like this is part of the course. They
Speaker 1: talk about what New York did, led by Governor Kathy Hochel.
Speaker 1: New York obstructed in their investigation, redacted documents, offered numerous
Speaker 1: illegitimate privileged claims, withheld thousands of documents without an apparent
Speaker 1: legal basis to obstruct the Select Subcommittee's investigation into Governor
Speaker 1: Cuomo's pandemic era failures. And then I believe they've also
Speaker 1: recommended Andrew Cuomo for criminal investigation based on what he
Speaker 1: did with the nursing home situations there. Evinex suggests mister
Speaker 1: Cuomo knowingly and wilfully made false statements to the Select
Speaker 1: Committee on numerous occasions about material aspects of New York's
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen nursing home disaster and the ensuing cover up.
Speaker 1: The Select Committee referred mister Cuomo to the DOJ for
Speaker 1: criminal prosecution. And this is another element of this that
Speaker 1: was being called out in real time. The whole idea
Speaker 1: that you would send people to a nursing home and
Speaker 1: weren't we told, didn't we know early on that the elderly,
Speaker 1: those who have already compromised immune systems, those who were
Speaker 1: in failing health were the most vulnerable. And the notion
Speaker 1: that you're going to send people that we know to
Speaker 1: be infected with the wuhan are supposed to go to
Speaker 1: nursing homes. And wasn't there a giant ship that was
Speaker 1: sent to New York, one of the one of the
Speaker 1: Navies medical ships, floating hospital giant ship wasn't wasn't the
Speaker 1: idea to send people with who were infected with the
Speaker 1: wuhan to this ship for treatment seemed like a good
Speaker 1: idea to me. That way you know where all the
Speaker 1: wuhan people are. But that's not what they wound up doing.
Speaker 1: I mean, and so much of this stuff happened in
Speaker 1: New York sending people to nursing homes, and CUOMO has
Speaker 1: been referred to the j for criminal prosecution. So a
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff we will get into the next
Speaker 1: hour when brad Winstrip is here, and I encourage you
Speaker 1: to stick around for that.
Speaker 3: I am certainly looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: Six fifty five kr V talk Stations fifty five krc
Speaker 1: DE talk station Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, get back
Speaker 1: to some of the audio cuts. Here, shall we let's
Speaker 1: see what here's uh, here's Joe Biden and whenever anything
Speaker 1: in the world happens, what's his for reaction. Well, let's
Speaker 1: spend some money on it.
Speaker 3: And here he is.
Speaker 1: I believe he did this on Sunday, talking about what's
Speaker 1: happening in Syria, and he's ready to start writing some
Speaker 1: checks cut number eleven.
Speaker 11: With a new constitution, new governor serves all Sirians. This
Speaker 11: process to be determined by the Syrian people themselves, right.
Speaker 11: The United States will do whatever we can to support them,
Speaker 11: including through humanitarian relief, to help restore Syria after more
Speaker 11: than a decade of war and generation to brutality.
Speaker 2: By this sod family.
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, so what does that mean? We're ready to
Speaker 1: start spending money. That is fantastic, you know they Joe
Speaker 1: Biden already partner up with the Taliban in Afghanistan billions
Speaker 1: of dollars out the door there, And how's that working out?
Speaker 1: How's how's things especially for women in Afghanistan? How are
Speaker 1: things looking there? And he's ready to partner up with
Speaker 1: terror us once again in Syria. That is fantastic. And
Speaker 1: then he said something about I'm not exactly sure what
Speaker 1: he's saying in this cut. You you listen to it,
Speaker 1: and you tell me. This was part of what Joe
Speaker 1: Biden had to say about Syria yesterday, and Joe, let's
Speaker 1: here cut number ten.
Speaker 11: We will help stability resure stability in Eastern Syria, protecting
Speaker 11: any personnel our personnel against any threats, and will remain
Speaker 11: our mission against IS suppos be maintained, including the security
Speaker 11: of detention facilities where ISIS fighters are being held in.
Speaker 3: Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 1: So you tell me. I mean he got a little
Speaker 1: loss with a teleprompter there. God, it's gonna it really
Speaker 1: is time for this guy to go. Kristin Walker was
Speaker 1: talking with Donald Trump on Meet the Press on Sunday
Speaker 1: and she had a hard time understanding tariffs. And let's
Speaker 1: hear or we're gonna hear it. Let's hear two cuts here.
Speaker 1: First of all, cut number three, let's hear this one.
Speaker 8: Are you actually going to impose these tariffs or are
Speaker 8: they a negotiating tax?
Speaker 4: Well, I'll give you an example with Canada and in
Speaker 4: particular Mexico, we have millions of people pouring into our country,
Speaker 4: you agree with that. I spoke with the both I
Speaker 4: spoke with the Justin Trudeau.
Speaker 2: In fact, he flew to mar A Lago within.
Speaker 4: About fifteen seconds after the call, and he was at
Speaker 4: mar Lago.
Speaker 2: We're having dinner talking about it.
Speaker 4: I said, you have to close up your borders because
Speaker 4: they're coming in the northern border to a lot, not
Speaker 4: like the southern border, but they're coming in the Canadian
Speaker 4: border a lot. And drugs are pouring in almost as importantly,
Speaker 4: drugs are poring in, maybe more importantly, drugs are pouring
Speaker 4: in at levels never seen before, ten times what we had.
Speaker 4: They're just pouring in. We can't have open borders. And
Speaker 4: I said to the President of Mexico and to Justin Trudeau,
Speaker 4: if it doesn't stop, I'm going to put tariffs on
Speaker 4: your country at about twenty five percent.
Speaker 1: And then Trump went on to further explain what tariffs
Speaker 1: are used for cut number four thing to.
Speaker 2: Do with other things. Tariffs.
Speaker 4: I have stopped wars with tariffs by saying, you guys
Speaker 4: want to fight, it's great, but both of you are
Speaker 4: going to pay tariffs to the United States at one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. And they have many purposes tariffs if properly used.
Speaker 4: I don't say you use them like a madman. I
Speaker 4: say properly used. But it didn't cost this country anything.
Speaker 4: It made this country money. And we never really got
Speaker 4: the chance to go all out because we had to
Speaker 4: fight COVID in the last part and we did it
Speaker 4: very successfully.
Speaker 2: And when I handed it over to Biden.
Speaker 4: The stock market was higher than what it was just
Speaker 4: previous to COVID coming in was actually higher. Tariffs are
Speaker 4: a properly is are very powerful tool, not only economically
Speaker 4: but also for getting other things outside of economics.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good explanation of Trump and how he
Speaker 1: plans to use terraffs as a way to negotiate, as
Speaker 1: a way to get what he wants. And all we
Speaker 1: see is all these tariffs they're going to cost and
Speaker 1: it's going to mean what I saw. I've seen numbers
Speaker 1: anywhere between twenty five hundred and four ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year more for the average American family because of
Speaker 1: these terriffs, not exactly, not exactly. So we'll see how
Speaker 1: it goes. But Trump is going to be very busy
Speaker 1: on day one, not just with terroriffs, with doing a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of other stuff. Here's Trump talking about day
Speaker 1: one cut number five.
Speaker 8: I understand that on day one you're going to be
Speaker 8: signing a flurry executive orders. Can you give me just
Speaker 8: what are the top ones people should know about?
Speaker 2: I don't will have to do with economics.
Speaker 4: A lot's going to have to do with energy, A
Speaker 4: lot's going to do with having to.
Speaker 2: Do with the border.
Speaker 4: We're going to immediately strengthen up the border and do
Speaker 4: a real job, and some of the basics.
Speaker 1: So the executive orders are going to come fast and
Speaker 1: furious on day one. And I'm telling you what I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, Joe, But January twenty, I can't
Speaker 1: get here fast enough. I look, we're going to have
Speaker 1: more pardons from Biden, more money going out the door
Speaker 1: from Biden. You got Barack Obama out there making speeches.
Speaker 1: The guy has lost all the juice that he used
Speaker 1: to have. Kamala Harris came out over the late last
Speaker 1: week and made a speech to a group, and she's
Speaker 1: in total obscurity.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I mean all that stuff, but it's good. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you're sitting behind this microphone, the way things are
Speaker 1: going right now, Normally, this period between Thanksgiving and Christmas
Speaker 1: in the New year is usually just dead for news.
Speaker 1: It's it's the most dreaded time of year. But with
Speaker 1: this guy around, with the Trumpster around, there's no shortage
Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 3: You gotta love it.
Speaker 1: A little bit late for a break here, so let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and do that now. On fifty five KRC,
Speaker 1: the Talk stays this has.
Speaker 3: Been proving the Way Family.
Speaker 1: Six thirty nine On this Monday morning, Dan Carol for
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas.
Speaker 3: Joe. Brian's back tomorrow, is he not?
Speaker 5: He is?
Speaker 3: So that's good.
Speaker 1: But in the seven o'clock hour, be talking with brad
Speaker 1: Winstroup about his committee's work on well looking into the
Speaker 1: Wuhan virus. Nancy Mays got a visit from some cancer patients,
Speaker 1: at least they're staff did and transgender activists. They made
Speaker 1: a stop at Nancy Grace's office last week and apparently
Speaker 1: one of them told her staffer that sex based bathrooms
Speaker 1: are bad because cancer patients lose their hair.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that has to do. I guess
Speaker 3: this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, May said that these people came to my office yesterday,
Speaker 1: one of them told my staff it's bad to have
Speaker 1: sex based bathrooms because cancer patients lose their hair and
Speaker 1: can look like the wrong sex. I don't know why
Speaker 1: anyone losing their hair has anything to do with which
Speaker 1: bathroom you use, especially at the Capitol, since the Speaker
Speaker 1: has said that if you're if you're a man, you
Speaker 1: use the men's room, if you're a woman, you use
Speaker 1: the lady's room. It seems pretty cut and dried to me.
Speaker 1: But of course, the world we live in today, it's
Speaker 1: all very complicated. Five hundred is the is the number
Speaker 1: to call. Tim Walls did a little interview over the weekend,
Speaker 1: said that he's surprised that Americans rejected the positive message
Speaker 1: that him and Kamala Harris were offering. The the American
Speaker 1: people surprised that they lost, and the lesson learned from
Speaker 1: the humbling defeat seems very clear. He blames America for
Speaker 1: not understanding the campaign's positive message. Anyone want to tell
Speaker 1: me what that positive message was. Not exactly sure what
Speaker 1: he means by that, but that's you know, that's what
Speaker 1: he uh, That's what he did. That's his story and
Speaker 1: he's sticking with it. We had a positive message. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what it was, but it sure was positive.
Speaker 1: Christen Welker didn't think that doesn't think that Trump has
Speaker 1: a positive message. And so the themes that she hit
Speaker 1: on during the interview were the twenty twenty election, deporting families,
Speaker 1: and then going after his political opponents. And so I
Speaker 1: got a couple of cuts here on that one. And
Speaker 1: essentially Trump is saying, look, I've got bigger fish to
Speaker 1: fry if Pam Bondy gets in there as Attorney General,
Speaker 1: cash battel at FBI. He's essentially saying that they are
Speaker 1: going to do what they're going to do, which I
Speaker 1: think is a great thing. Trump should not get bogged
Speaker 1: down in all this stuff. He's got to leave that
Speaker 1: to the other people. He wants to go after the
Speaker 1: big ticket items. He wants to go after the economy,
Speaker 1: drill for oil, deportations, that sort of thing here he
Speaker 1: is talking about. He's going to the people that are
Speaker 1: going to be working for him, let them do that job.
Speaker 1: Cut number seven.
Speaker 4: If they think that somebody was dishonest, crookeet or corrupt politician.
Speaker 2: I think he probably has an obligation to do it.
Speaker 4: But are you going to direct him to do no,
Speaker 4: not at all, not at all. We have two great
Speaker 4: people that we have him and we have Pam. Pam
Speaker 4: Bondi has been like a rocket ship. So he's very
Speaker 4: popular and very good and very fair. And Cash Betel
Speaker 4: is very fair. I'll tell you. I thought Cash may
Speaker 4: be difficult because he's a strong conservative voice, and I
Speaker 4: don't know if anybody.
Speaker 2: That's not singing his praises.
Speaker 4: The other day I was watching and Trey Gowdy, who's
Speaker 4: a moderate person and very smart and very respected in
Speaker 4: the party.
Speaker 2: He's Cash's biggest fan.
Speaker 4: He said, this is the most misunderstood man in politics.
Speaker 2: He's great. I guess they work together on the Russia.
Speaker 1: Hoax or something, and I think Trump's right about that.
Speaker 1: I had a piece last week. I was looking at
Speaker 1: Cash Cash Bettel's resume, and I mean, this guy has
Speaker 1: done a lot of stuff when it comes to dealing
Speaker 1: with national security and different positions that he's held throughout
Speaker 1: his career. So I think this guy would be perfect
Speaker 1: and great at the FBI. But here's Kristen Welker just
Speaker 1: does not want to let these things go. She's worried
Speaker 1: about Trump seeking out and doing damage to his political opponents.
Speaker 1: And here's how Trump dealt with that kind.
Speaker 3: Number eight.
Speaker 4: I'm really looking to make our country successful. I'm not
Speaker 4: looking to go back into the past. I'm looking to
Speaker 4: make our country successful. Retribution will be through success. If
Speaker 4: we can make our success, is this country successful, that
Speaker 4: would be my greatest That would be such a great achievement.
Speaker 2: Bring it back.
Speaker 4: We have a country now that's overridden with crime, that
Speaker 4: has millions of people that shouldn't be here, that should
Speaker 4: be in prisons in other countries, that should be in
Speaker 4: mental institutions. We have drug lords being dropped into our
Speaker 4: country un told never go back to their country. I'm
Speaker 4: looking to make our country great. I'm looking to get
Speaker 4: bring prices down because you know, I want on two things,
Speaker 4: the border and more than immigration.
Speaker 2: You know they like to say immigration. I break it.
Speaker 4: Down more to the border. But I want on the
Speaker 4: border and I want on groceries. It's very simple word, groceries.
Speaker 1: Very simple word, groceries. Everybody's got to have groceries. And
Speaker 1: that's what it was about, gas prices and groceries. And
Speaker 1: Trump has not forgotten that. And I think that's a
Speaker 1: good thing. As this thing moves on down the tracks
Speaker 1: as fantastic. So the interview yesterday with Welker was fantastic.
Speaker 1: He put her in her place, held his line, and
Speaker 1: just shoved so much to this back in her face.
Speaker 1: So a big win for Trump. On Meet the Press
Speaker 1: six forty five. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas on fifty
Speaker 1: five KRC, the Talk station six fifty on this Monday morning,
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas. I've been teasing it all morning.
Speaker 1: The brad Winstrop is going to be here in the
Speaker 1: seven o'clock hour. But I should not be surprised that
Speaker 1: a military man is here early, showing up early.
Speaker 3: Here army time, brad oh, seven hundred. But you're here early,
Speaker 3: brad Winster. How are you? I'm doing all right.
Speaker 1: And in the seven o'clock hour we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about your report, which is good, but this gives me
Speaker 1: a little time to what to talk about you and
Speaker 1: your time in DC is coming to an end. You
Speaker 1: announced that you were not going to run for re
Speaker 1: election and what's that process been like.
Speaker 12: Well, it's been different. I mean, by and large, it
Speaker 12: didn't feel any different until after the election. Yeah, after
Speaker 12: the election in November, then you suddenly felt that when
Speaker 12: you feel the finality of it, well, yeah, and you
Speaker 12: feel that, like you know, for a lot of things,
Speaker 12: you just don't matter anymore. And you start to see
Speaker 12: all these new people showing up because a lot of
Speaker 12: the new members are around and they haven't been sworn
Speaker 12: in yet. But there's just a lot of things. But
Speaker 12: by and large, I had things that I've been working
Speaker 12: on trying to get into our final packages, which of course,
Speaker 12: it would be a whole lot easier if we just
Speaker 12: didn't throw everything into one big pale at the end
Speaker 12: of the year. Instead did things a little by little.
Speaker 12: But wrapping up this two years of the pandemic Select
Speaker 12: Subcommittee has really been all encompassing. I mean, we put
Speaker 12: together a five hundred and twenty page report, you know,
Speaker 12: but other than that, it's been kind of business as usual,
Speaker 12: except you know, now for this last month or so,
Speaker 12: you have no office. They give you a cubicle in
Speaker 12: the basement, and you know, you've still got some staff around.
Speaker 12: Some have moved on, but most of ours have said
Speaker 12: I'll take my next job when we're finished, and so
Speaker 12: that's been good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's different.
Speaker 12: And since I had the Select Subcommittee, I have an
Speaker 12: office to go to where others might not. But you know,
Speaker 12: it's bittersweet, for sure. I have no regrets at the
Speaker 12: twelve years of serving in Congress. It's been a huge honor.
Speaker 12: It's messier, messier than it needs to be by far,
Speaker 12: but in a lot of ways, we quietly got a
Speaker 12: lot of things done that never made headlines, and I'm
Speaker 12: proud of that.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's usually the case, you know. I've
Speaker 1: been to Washington a handful of times and spend a
Speaker 1: little time walking around the halls of Congress and some
Speaker 1: of the office buildings there, which are just I mean,
Speaker 1: it really is just being there and seeing all that.
Speaker 1: It really is a special place. And I think so
Speaker 1: many people get the wrong idea about DC because we
Speaker 1: talk about it in such negatives way, in negative ways,
Speaker 1: but I mean in so many ways. I mean, it
Speaker 1: really is a swamp. It really is so despicable the
Speaker 1: way things are run in this government these days.
Speaker 3: But there's got to be aspects of.
Speaker 1: It that when when I mean when you when you
Speaker 1: look at how just how how great it is and
Speaker 1: how meaningful it is to really be there on a
Speaker 1: daily basis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it absolutely is.
Speaker 12: And you know, the American people don't get the full
Speaker 12: perception because, uh, you know, I was asked a little
Speaker 12: roundtable with it was departing members three of US, one Democrat,
Speaker 12: two Republicans, and they moderator said, what can be done
Speaker 12: to calm some of the chaos? I said, I think
Speaker 12: it would make a difference if the media paid more
Speaker 12: attention to those that actually got things across the finish
Speaker 12: line than those that never do. Because truthfully, by and large,
Speaker 12: the people that you see day in and day out
Speaker 12: that are rowdy, et cetera, they really have they don't
Speaker 12: usually get something done. They don't pass bills, they don't
Speaker 12: take away bills, they don't stop regulations there you know,
Speaker 12: and that that is a problem. But I think the
Speaker 12: bigger problem we have today is something that didn't exist
Speaker 12: with our with our founders. When our country was founded,
Speaker 12: we had three agencies, State, Treasury, and war.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 12: I changed my mind on term limits because if you've
Speaker 12: just if you're only their two terms, you never establish
Speaker 12: enough street cred if you will to do to do
Speaker 12: things right. But in the agencies, those are the people
Speaker 12: that never leave and they're not elected. That's where we
Speaker 12: need to make change. It should be like the military.
Speaker 12: If you get if you don't get promoted, you're out,
Speaker 12: and when you reach the top, you're term limited. We
Speaker 12: have people that nest there forever and they're controlling way
Speaker 12: too much.
Speaker 1: And see when I look at at DOJE okay, the
Speaker 1: Department of Government Efficiency, the aik Raamaswami and Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: when I hear them talk, that's what I hear them
Speaker 1: concentrating on the bloat in the federal government and they're
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, there's what two hundred and summer
Speaker 1: five hundred some agencies right now. They're talking about, we
Speaker 1: can take this down to ninety nine. And essentially they're
Speaker 1: talking about the apparatus of government that spends so much money.
Speaker 1: All you hear in the media is, oh, they want
Speaker 1: to cut Medicare, they want to cut Social Security, they
Speaker 1: want to cut you know, all these entitlement programs. I
Speaker 1: haven't heard them talk about that at all. They're talking
Speaker 1: about government efficiency, and that's a great place to start.
Speaker 1: If you can streamline things and make things more efficient, right,
Speaker 1: efficiencies right there in the name. I think that's an
Speaker 1: important first step.
Speaker 12: It's not bad to have some of the things. But
Speaker 12: are they working, and what does success look like? You
Speaker 12: go to just go to the website and look at
Speaker 12: Health and Human Services and all the sub agencies that
Speaker 12: are part of that, and you look at that and say,
Speaker 12: what are these people doing that are making us a
Speaker 12: healthier nation? Because that's really what that agency should be about.
Speaker 12: And work with Congress that we put things in place. Look,
Speaker 12: I'm glad to have a country with safety nets, but
Speaker 12: success means fewer people needing them. That's what success looks like,
Speaker 12: not putting more people into problem.
Speaker 3: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: And you even in your report you talk about the
Speaker 1: billions of dollars that that got wasted during the whole
Speaker 1: the whole COVID episode. Absolutely, when when when we look
Speaker 1: at that and act like that, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: few billion here, a few billions, they're not that big
Speaker 1: of a deal.
Speaker 3: That that mindset needs to change.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know what, what the work you
Speaker 1: did on that may be one of the first steps
Speaker 1: in the sort of change in that mindset.
Speaker 12: This should be a roadmap. This should We'll talk about
Speaker 12: the more, but this should be a roadmap to the future.
Speaker 3: All right, get it to a break here.
Speaker 1: News coming up top of the hour and then we
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Speaker 1: During the entire seven o'clock hour, and we invite you
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Speaker 1: Carroll in for Brian Thomas. Brian Thomas is back tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so we are all looking forward to that. And as
Speaker 1: promised earlier in this show, we are going to spend
Speaker 1: the seven o'clock hour with Congressman brad Winstrip and he
Speaker 1: and his Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic have just
Speaker 1: wrapped up a two year investigation into COVID nineteen, or
Speaker 1: as I like to refer to it, the Wuhan and
Speaker 1: brad Winstrip is here and Brad weinstp how are you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing all right? It's good to see. How about
Speaker 3: those Bengals. Well, h we have an offense. Yeah, that's fact.
Speaker 3: I mean think about that.
Speaker 1: You got to go out and there they're saying that, Look,
Speaker 1: you guys got to score forty points every game if
Speaker 1: you want to have a chance to win it, and
Speaker 1: say it's unbelievable. Well, they got some work to do
Speaker 1: in the off season. Oh it's not off season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, darn it. Well when the off season.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: That can't get here faster and January twenty I can't
Speaker 1: get here fast enough either. But you know what, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming in. It's great. It's great to see you again.
Speaker 1: It's been a little while. But I mean you look good.
Speaker 1: You look like you've got a little bit of weight
Speaker 1: taking off your shoulders.
Speaker 12: Yes, yeah, this this two year's log is really not
Speaker 12: just a two year's log of the Select Subcommittee. But
Speaker 12: it's been five years. You know, I sit on Intelligence
Speaker 12: Committee and I can remember during lockdown, another doctor in
Speaker 12: Ohio was calling me and he was calling infectious disease
Speaker 12: doctors in China. We were looking at how do we
Speaker 12: treat the what's going on? You know, this thing's novel
Speaker 12: called that for a reason, no one knew quite what
Speaker 12: to do. We were learning what we could learn from
Speaker 12: from lab work from cts and you know, what's the
Speaker 12: best way to try and treat this. But in the
Speaker 12: process we started sharing other things that we were discovering
Speaker 12: online and one of the things was an article from
Speaker 12: twenty fifteen. He said, take a look at this, and
Speaker 12: it was Ralph Berrick in North Carolina, Zengli She and Wuhan, China,
Speaker 12: and they had created kaimeras in the lab. They had
Speaker 12: taken parts of different viruses, made new viruses and made
Speaker 12: them more pathogenic to human beings. I mean, this was unbelievable,
Speaker 12: and my first thought is bioweapons. That was when I
Speaker 12: saw that. That was my first thought. I'm on intelligence committee.
Speaker 12: I've been looking at our adversaries bioweapons for some time
Speaker 12: before COVID Our State Department in two thousand and five
Speaker 12: said that China has a bioweapons program. In twenty fifteen,
Speaker 12: they published to book in China about making coronavirus bioweapons.
Speaker 12: I mean, what more do you need? And public statements
Speaker 12: by Chinese scientists about, you know, the possibility of coronaviruses
Speaker 12: being bioweapons, it was all there. So my concern went
Speaker 12: way up in this situation, and then you know, you
Speaker 12: start to uncover things that like we're actually doing gain
Speaker 12: of function research in Wuhan, China, which is the idea
Speaker 12: of making something more infectious to humans.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. How did we get here?
Speaker 12: Yeah, and so you know, I've been looking at all
Speaker 12: this stuff, and several people on Intelligence Committee especially, and
Speaker 12: you know, we got a five hundred and twenty page
Speaker 12: report that's the unclassified version. You know, we've got more
Speaker 12: on the other side and on the classified side. But
Speaker 12: let me the overarching thing to all of this is
Speaker 12: one China's cover up so obvious. They got rid of
Speaker 12: sequence as samples, they wouldn't let people in theirs was
Speaker 12: a very clear cover up. They sent me a letter
Speaker 12: when we started the Select Subcommittee saying they have grave
Speaker 12: concerns that we're even looking into the origins of COVID.
Speaker 12: You know this, this has already been settled by China
Speaker 12: was concerned that you were doing your own investigation. Yeah,
Speaker 12: they sort of frowned on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I wrote them back and I said, I don't think.
Speaker 12: I don't think you're going to dictate what we investigate
Speaker 12: your state. No, But but then they said, this is
Speaker 12: already done by scientists. I said, well, we have seven
Speaker 12: physicians on here, and we're bringing in scientists. And I
Speaker 12: named five of theirs that I'd like to see and
Speaker 12: one of them, I said, if still alive, if you
Speaker 12: if you get my drift there, But that that's how
Speaker 12: they operate. But it wasn't just their cover up. It
Speaker 12: was a cover up within our own government.
Speaker 1: And then to me, that's mean. And I looked at you,
Speaker 1: look at all the elements of this, and it is
Speaker 1: one scandal after another. I mean, each one of these
Speaker 1: things by itself is a huge scandal onto itself. But
Speaker 1: you pile one on top of the other, on top
Speaker 1: of the other, and the American people hear about this
Speaker 1: and their eyes start to glaze over because it's just
Speaker 1: so much. It really, I mean, it really is. And
Speaker 1: each one of these it is absolutely jaw dropping the
Speaker 1: way you put it in the report. But before we
Speaker 1: get too far down this road, let's go back to
Speaker 1: the beginning. I think there was a sense in Congress
Speaker 1: from the very beginning that we want to have an investigation,
Speaker 1: we want to look into this. This investigation two years
Speaker 1: you spent on it would not have happened, but for
Speaker 1: Republicans taking control of the House in twenty twelve.
Speaker 12: That's absolutely true, and as a matter of fact, the
Speaker 12: minority during this said, we were spending a lot of
Speaker 12: time on things that we shouldn't be looking into. And
Speaker 12: I called this from the very beginning, using my military background,
Speaker 12: this is an after action review. We're looking at lessons
Speaker 12: learned and we're going to plan out a path forward
Speaker 12: so that we are ready equipped and able to go
Speaker 12: the next time this something like this happens, and there
Speaker 12: will be a next time. The other cover up though,
Speaker 12: of the three, if you will, we're international scientists that
Speaker 12: wanted to steer everyone away from a lab leak theory
Speaker 12: and only look at the possibility of nature. And in
Speaker 12: their internal documents they're saying, all right, we're going to
Speaker 12: write this article and our job is to disprove the
Speaker 12: lab leak theory. They don't even talk about the lab
Speaker 12: leak as the theory. They only talk about nature. And
Speaker 12: in their internal documents they're saying, we can't rule out
Speaker 12: that it's engineered. This thing sure looks engineered. We started
Speaker 12: to get all that information through Freedom of Information Act
Speaker 12: and then are subpoenas.
Speaker 1: But so many times when you have and one of
Speaker 1: my big issues when you have when you government in general,
Speaker 1: but when you're when you have a committee, when you
Speaker 1: have an investigation like this, far too often before the
Speaker 1: work even begins, there's a there's an outcome or a
Speaker 1: destination that seems predetermined. And this happens so many times
Speaker 1: in Washington. My sense is with this commit that you
Speaker 1: did not start with a desired result, and you wanted
Speaker 1: your work to lead you to that result. Am I
Speaker 1: right about that? That's great. I wanted to this committee
Speaker 1: with the idea of finding fact and exposing what really took.
Speaker 12: Place and then present a path forward. And so you know,
Speaker 12: as I went through this, this was important to me.
Speaker 12: I never mentioned political party one time in any of
Speaker 12: our writings or in a conversation. We did not mention
Speaker 12: political party on our side because it was about finding facts.
Speaker 12: But what actually happened, Dan is every time we looked
Speaker 12: under a rock, there was another rock to look under. Yeah,
Speaker 12: and another rock to look under. So yeah, we're going
Speaker 12: to look at EcoHealth Alliance, who was doing gain of
Speaker 12: function research in China. Well, as we're looking through their
Speaker 12: stuff and their internal documents, we hear from doctor David Moorns,
Speaker 12: who was doctor Fauci's deputy, and he's saying things like, hey,
Speaker 12: write me on my Gmail because these blankety blanks are
Speaker 12: foiering me, in other words, requesting documents which belonged to
Speaker 12: the American people. He goes, and I'll delete anything I
Speaker 12: don't want showing up in the New York Times. Clear
Speaker 12: intent to deceive the American people was right there. So
Speaker 12: now we look into him and it.
Speaker 1: Just kind of thing is, people like Rand Paul were
Speaker 1: exposing this in real time, and and and when all
Speaker 1: this was going on, there was no sense that any
Speaker 1: of this needs to be investigated, none of this needs
Speaker 1: to be looked into. And again, we wouldn't be here
Speaker 1: today had it not been for a change in what
Speaker 1: happened in leadership.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Ran Paul asked the blank question, Were you doing
Speaker 12: gain and function research in China?
Speaker 3: Doctor Fauci said no.
Speaker 12: Then later he said, I was thinking of the different
Speaker 12: definition that suddenly that suddenly appeared on their website. I
Speaker 12: was thinking of a different definition. That's that's why I
Speaker 12: said it that way, you know.
Speaker 1: So, And he told him, you don't know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, That's what he said, did you ever say
Speaker 1: that to you.
Speaker 3: You don't know what you're talking. No, he did know.
Speaker 12: He did not because by the time I had him,
Speaker 12: By the time I had and we had a pretty
Speaker 12: idea what we were talking about, and he knew and
Speaker 12: understood that and respected that, I think throughout and you know, look,
Speaker 12: we got him going from where he had publicly said,
Speaker 12: you know, it's a conspiracy theory if you say it
Speaker 12: came from the lab to no, it's not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3: Doctor Collins the same thing. But look, here's the motive.
Speaker 12: In twenty eleven and twenty twelve, you know, you got
Speaker 12: articles by Fauci and Collins bragging about gain to function
Speaker 12: research being a great tool, and their idea was that
Speaker 12: they could create a virus and that they think will
Speaker 12: come out of nature eventually, and if we already have
Speaker 12: it and can create a vaccine for it, then we're
Speaker 12: ahead of the game. But they were asked in twenty
Speaker 12: twelve doctor Fauci specifically, well aren't you concerned about it
Speaker 12: getting out of the lab and creating a pandemic. This
Speaker 12: is in twenty twelve, and he said, well, I think
Speaker 12: the benefits outweigh the risk.
Speaker 3: Oh, for God's sake, all right, Yeah, and how many
Speaker 3: million dead? That's right? That would maybe you know, frown
Speaker 3: on that.
Speaker 12: So when you want to say that it came from nature,
Speaker 12: well yeah, wash your hands.
Speaker 1: Look at the shiny object over there, don't don't look
Speaker 1: at me. All right, we got to get to a break.
Speaker 1: But when we come back, I want to start walking
Speaker 1: through some of the specific points that you make in
Speaker 1: the report, and we'll go through those one by one
Speaker 1: as we spend the seven o'clock hour with Congressman Brad
Speaker 1: Westerner up here on fifty five krs.
Speaker 3: The Talks to fifty five krs the talk station.
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas and Brad winstropis here today
Speaker 1: talking about the Select Subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic. To
Speaker 1: your investigation has done, the report is out. You had
Speaker 1: a markup that happened. I believe it was Thursday last week,
Speaker 1: well Wednesday, Thursday last week. And what exactly was that about?
Speaker 12: The markup was just we had unanimous consent from both
Speaker 12: sides of the Aisle Okay to move the reports, our
Speaker 12: report forwards.
Speaker 1: So a procedural thing more than more than any that's
Speaker 1: all I was. Yeah, no, fireworks. Unfortunately, let's start with
Speaker 1: some of the things that jumped out at me. And
Speaker 1: when we talk about the origin of the of the
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, which I call the Wuhan virus. So the
Speaker 1: committee finds COVID nineteen most likely emerged from a lab
Speaker 1: in Wuhan, China, and you provide some of the five
Speaker 1: strongest arguments in favor of the lab leak theory. One
Speaker 1: that resonates with me is that the virus possesses a
Speaker 1: biological characteristic not found in nature, and if there was
Speaker 1: evidence of a natural origin, it would have already surfaced.
Speaker 1: So when we look at these this sort of evidence,
Speaker 1: why can we not say definitively that the virus came
Speaker 1: from a lab?
Speaker 12: Because China didn't cooperate at all, and so that's always
Speaker 12: going to be the unknown. And if somebody from China
Speaker 12: were to speak up and tell the whole story and
Speaker 12: tell the truth and say, you know what they thought,
Speaker 12: we destroyed the samples I actually have them, that person
Speaker 12: probably wouldn't be around very long. But that's the biggest obstruction.
Speaker 12: But as John Radcliffe, who was Director of National Intelligence
Speaker 12: and now will be CIA director, what he said was
Speaker 12: true he said, nobody had more intelligence in front of
Speaker 12: them than he did. You know, from across the board,
Speaker 12: and if you were to put together the forensics the evidence,
Speaker 12: if you will, on one side you had arguments for nature,
Speaker 12: and the other side you had arguments for LAB. I mean,
Speaker 12: the list goes on and on for LAB and it's
Speaker 12: very short in nature and you've never found it, which
Speaker 12: usually we have. At some points you find the animal.
Speaker 12: And the article that was written called Proximal Origins was
Speaker 12: by a group of scientists that Fuci, Collins and a
Speaker 12: guy named Jeremy Farhar put together, and they even said
Speaker 12: in their emails that they're focus was to disprove the
Speaker 12: lab leak theory when they wrote their article. And the
Speaker 12: very day that doctor Fauci went on the White House
Speaker 12: lawn and acted surprise, like, whoa, look, here's this article
Speaker 12: which he knew was being written. He said, this article
Speaker 12: by these brilliant evolutionary virologists are saying that this came
Speaker 12: from this came from nature, This came from nature, and
Speaker 12: that should settle it right. The very day one of
Speaker 12: the authors of that was writing an email and he said,
Speaker 12: we still can't rule out this thing as engineer.
Speaker 3: There's just too much there.
Speaker 12: This is what they were saying, but not what they
Speaker 12: presented to the public, and not what doctor Fauci presented
Speaker 12: to the public. And when we had doctor Fauci in
Speaker 12: for interview you, I said, well, you tellted this article
Speaker 12: proximal origins. I said, but you now say that it's
Speaker 12: not a conspiracy theory, that it could be a lableak theory.
Speaker 12: He said, did you ever talk to the authors of
Speaker 12: or these articles? And I went through litany of scientific
Speaker 12: articles by actual virologists that were saying, here's how you
Speaker 12: can make this in the lab, and how we believe
Speaker 12: it was made in the lab COVID nineteen I'm talking about.
Speaker 12: And he said, no, never talk to them. Well, you
Speaker 12: said you had an open mind, But how can you
Speaker 12: say you have an open mind if you never looked
Speaker 12: into the other side and all that was out there
Speaker 12: and so but we did, But we did, and we
Speaker 12: talked to them all. We talked to people from both sides.
Speaker 12: We talked to the people that said they thought it
Speaker 12: came from nature, who all hid skin in the game
Speaker 12: because they do this type of work, and these were
Speaker 12: people involved that said things like, imagine the s show
Speaker 12: that will happen if people think this came from the lab.
Speaker 12: And I'm paraphrasing here, but also imagine what this will
Speaker 12: do to international harmony and our research if it's concluded
Speaker 12: it came from the lab. They had all the motive, Dan,
Speaker 12: and now we discovered it. We discovered their motive. It's
Speaker 12: it's sitting right there. But they didn't think anyone would
Speaker 12: ever see what they were saying.
Speaker 1: But but but this, this gave rise to this, this
Speaker 1: bigger notion that the only narrative that we are supposed
Speaker 1: to accept, the only narrative that is uh that that
Speaker 1: we will allow to be on the news, is the
Speaker 1: one that we want that and and and I think
Speaker 1: that was one of the most dangerous things that come
Speaker 1: out of this, the notion that we can only accept
Speaker 1: the approved government narrative.
Speaker 3: Of a of a particular Yeah, and think about this.
Speaker 1: And that gets into a whole lot of, you know,
Speaker 1: bigger things in general society.
Speaker 12: I think everyone will remember when Donald Trump said We're
Speaker 12: going to restrict travel. Okay, we asked doctor Puci, were
Speaker 12: you in favor of that? Did you recommend that we
Speaker 12: restrict travel? And he said yes, it was it was
Speaker 12: a good idea, and I'm thinking, well, where were you
Speaker 12: when all that was on the news and everything out
Speaker 12: of the politicians from the other side of the aisle,
Speaker 12: which none of this should have been political, started saying, oh,
Speaker 12: that's racist and xenophobic.
Speaker 3: So I asked.
Speaker 12: I asked doctor Fauci, was restricting travel racist? He said no,
Speaker 12: Was it xenophobic? He said no, Well why didn't you
Speaker 12: say that when that became the narrative to the public.
Speaker 12: You're supposed to be a public health leader, then clear
Speaker 12: the record of what is actually what you recommended, by
Speaker 12: the way, and so that's just another example. But we
Speaker 12: saw things FDA rush for full approval of the vaccine. Look,
Speaker 12: I believe the vaccine saved hundreds of thousands of lives
Speaker 12: of the most vulnerable. And I was for the emergency
Speaker 12: Youth Authorization authorization for those that we knew were dying.
Speaker 1: Now, well, the state to hold that dog because I
Speaker 1: want to get into the vaccine as we continue. We
Speaker 1: got a ton of stuff to get to here, but
Speaker 1: we got to get to a quick break and we'll
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Speaker 1: Fifty five KRCD Talks SA seventy nine. We continue our
Speaker 1: conversation with Congressman brad Winstrip So the lab Leaku and
Speaker 1: one more thing on the lab Leak and then I'll
Speaker 1: want to move on. But in the fall of twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: months before COVID nineteen was discovered at the wet market
Speaker 1: or I guess at least that narrative was out there.
Speaker 1: China chose not to disclose this information that there was
Speaker 1: a couple of researchers at the Wuhan Lab who came
Speaker 1: down sick with COVID nineteen. They didn't tell the United States,
Speaker 1: didn't tell the CDC, NIH World Health Organization. So this
Speaker 1: is where things really start to unravel in our relationship
Speaker 1: with China as it relates to this issue.
Speaker 3: Is that accurate? Yes?
Speaker 12: And for those in the arena, people were starting to
Speaker 12: see rumors of a new type of pneumonia developing in China.
Speaker 12: They also, as time went on, they changed their ventilation
Speaker 12: system in the Wuman lab to be one that filters better.
Speaker 12: They had reports over time of accidents in their labs,
Speaker 12: and they were using for this a BSL two, which
Speaker 12: is a lower level of security. And even Ralph Berrick,
Speaker 12: who does this type of research in North Carolina, he
Speaker 12: said needs to be done at a level three or four,
Speaker 12: nothing less, but there that's what was being done. And
Speaker 12: then their military took over the lab. I mean, all
Speaker 12: of these things are pretty good indicators of what was
Speaker 12: going on. But the bottom line is President she lied.
Speaker 12: He said things were in the controller light to the
Speaker 12: who he manipulated, the who he lied. You know, I
Speaker 12: would hear people say Donald Trump lied. I not only lied,
Speaker 12: he just believed President She was being honest and he wasn't.
Speaker 12: And quickly I think President Trump figured that outretty pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: One of the least surprising things to me is that
Speaker 1: federal and state governments were not coordinated and were unprepared
Speaker 1: receive the allocation of WUHAN Relief Funds paycheck protection program
Speaker 1: supposed to help working Americans. At least sixty four billion
Speaker 1: dollars was lost to chislers and criminals. There another one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety one billion went down the drain through
Speaker 1: fraud and federal government unemployment system. So all this money
Speaker 1: that was wasted when you talk about these programs that
Speaker 1: were supposed to help people out, this is another scandalous,
Speaker 1: unbelievably scandalous aspect of this that all this money went
Speaker 1: out the door and there was essentially no accounting for
Speaker 1: any of it. And then there were some half hearted efforts,
Speaker 1: I think to recoup some of that money. But by
Speaker 1: and large we just you know, flushed, you know, hundreds
Speaker 1: of billions of dollars down the drain and no one
Speaker 1: seems to care.
Speaker 12: Yeah, we're trying to incentivize states by being able to
Speaker 12: maybe keep some of what they recover to do that,
Speaker 12: and that really was was held up. But the biggest thing,
Speaker 12: the one that was the most egregious dand through the
Speaker 12: whole thing, is with unemployment and you and what was
Speaker 12: put in place against our wishes on Ways and Means
Speaker 12: Committee was the self attestation.
Speaker 3: In other words, you just say you're unemployed.
Speaker 12: You know, we weren't asking for verifying data, which was
Speaker 12: easy to get. And actually Horowitz, who also was the
Speaker 12: Inspector General for Faiza, going back to the fake Russian
Speaker 12: collusion narrative, you know, he pointed that out that this
Speaker 12: was absolutely the worst thing that we could do is
Speaker 12: just let people do that, and he pointed out how
Speaker 12: easily it could have been done. So again, solutions oriented
Speaker 12: as well, but it was there from the beginning. It
Speaker 12: should have been able to be done that way. But
Speaker 12: the theft is absolutely appalling at a time when we
Speaker 12: are so far in debt and now we're just aiding
Speaker 12: and ben people that hate us that are stealing money,
Speaker 12: because a lot of it were foreign adversaries that were stealing.
Speaker 1: But see, I think that's what I think about that
Speaker 1: this report. Then why it's important that you document all
Speaker 1: those things because during the course of your investigation you said, well,
Speaker 1: look at this element of it, and instead of just
Speaker 1: leaving that alone, you detail that in the report. And
Speaker 1: I think that's really important. This report does not reflect
Speaker 1: well on doctor Fauci. Are the are the dots? If
Speaker 1: someone wants to go through this report and connect the
Speaker 1: dots on doctor Fauci? And I don't know that there's
Speaker 1: been a referral for him to be investigated criminally on this,
Speaker 1: but are there are the dots there in this report
Speaker 1: to be able to connect if somebody wants to, oh,
Speaker 1: the dots are there, or maybe a legitimate media outlet
Speaker 1: wants to do that.
Speaker 12: That the dots are there to connect? The question is
Speaker 12: was anything done illegal? Look, I would say this early on,
Speaker 12: people were going to be subject to be what about
Speaker 12: the fund?
Speaker 3: Wrong? That's the fund? It wasn't there already something in place?
Speaker 3: Oh let me go through that. Yeah, let me go through.
Speaker 1: That that we're not allowed to do this sort of
Speaker 1: funding and yet he was signing off on it anyway.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so let's go through that. I'm I'm glad you
Speaker 12: brought that up because that, to me is one of
Speaker 12: the key findings of everything.
Speaker 1: Because he did that behind Trump's back, and this is
Speaker 1: before the wuhan even started.
Speaker 12: Well, let me tell you that. Let me tell you
Speaker 12: about the grant process. Yes, so, first of all, EcoHealth
Speaker 12: Alliance wanted to do gain a function research where they
Speaker 12: are going to insert what's called receptor binding domains on
Speaker 12: a bat backbone. So from another animal, you take a
Speaker 12: receptor binding domain. In short, that makes something more infectious
Speaker 12: stickier to human cell.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 12: They also wanted to add a fure in cleavage site.
Speaker 12: COVID nineteen is a type of coronavirus that never had
Speaker 12: a fear in cleavage site on it in nature.
Speaker 3: Never But now I don't know what that means. What
Speaker 3: does that mean?
Speaker 12: Well, the you're in leavage site is if you think
Speaker 12: of like R two D two when he extends that
Speaker 12: arm and can get into a system. All right, if
Speaker 12: you're in cleavage site is part of the the virus
Speaker 12: that when activated does pop out okay and gets into
Speaker 12: the human cell, in particular respiratory. Okay, okay, So that
Speaker 12: gives that gives you some idea. So two components that
Speaker 12: you add to a bat backbone of a virus. So
Speaker 12: you start with a bat virus, you put it's like legos.
Speaker 12: Now you're putting in parts, you're moving some out, putting
Speaker 12: others in. And that's as simple as I think I
Speaker 12: can I can put it. But that was their proposal.
Speaker 12: What was interesting is in an email with Ralph Berrick
Speaker 12: in North Carolina and Zengli She in Wuhan, China, Peter Dazik,
Speaker 12: the head of Eco Health Alliance, is saying, we'll just
Speaker 12: tell them we're going to do this in North Carolina,
Speaker 12: but once we get the money, we'll shift it over
Speaker 12: to Wuhan. Do it at a BSL too, a less
Speaker 12: safe lab because it costs less, and we'll do that.
Speaker 12: Ralph Barrack said, no, no, no. That initial proposal went
Speaker 12: to DARPA Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, Government Military Agency.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 12: They said, no, this is this is too risky. We're
Speaker 12: not we're not issuing that grant. They go over to NIH.
Speaker 12: Now you're talking Francis Collins and Tony Fauci they go
Speaker 12: over there, they get the grant. So we asked doctor
Speaker 12: Fauci about the grand process. Doctor Fauci, you signed off
Speaker 12: on on these grants, and uh, you know who basically
Speaker 12: who's responsible? He said, well, you know, I just I
Speaker 12: do just sign them. At one point he said, we
Speaker 12: get billions of dollars in grants. I can't know what's
Speaker 12: in all of them. I just sign him. He said,
Speaker 12: we have an advisory board that looks them over. Okay,
Speaker 12: that looks them over, and once they do that, then
Speaker 12: I just sign them. And we said, doctor Fauci, they
Speaker 12: didn't comply with the grant. They were not doing their
Speaker 12: periodic reporting. They developed a pathogen that should have been reported,
Speaker 12: they didn't do it. They were two years late.
Speaker 2: With that.
Speaker 12: Does a flag go up at N I H or
Speaker 12: N I A I D that you're in charge of,
Speaker 12: to say where's your report? He said, that's over in compliance.
Speaker 12: I have nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3: Of course, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when we were talking about DOJE earlier, this is
Speaker 1: the cod this is what we're talking about. Havevik Ramaswani
Speaker 1: and Elon Musk are going to be looking at that
Speaker 1: and this is why so many billions of dollars goes
Speaker 1: out the door and no one, there's no accountability.
Speaker 12: And one step further on that, I said, look, you're
Speaker 12: doing dangerous research. You know it's dangerous. You've said that
Speaker 12: is from the very beginning. You're doing dangerous research in
Speaker 12: a lab of an adversary. And what's your oversight? Are
Speaker 12: you in the lab? Are you able to see what's
Speaker 12: going on every step of the way he goes? I
Speaker 12: wouldn't even know how to do that. So we know
Speaker 12: that they're working on bio weapons over there, and we
Speaker 12: allow this kind of money to go out the door.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't supposed to happen though what there was
Speaker 1: already guidelines against it.
Speaker 12: There was already there was a pause on it, but
Speaker 12: there was there was a little glitch clause that allowed
Speaker 12: them to work around it. These are these are the
Speaker 12: things you're talking about, right, These are the things we
Speaker 12: got to fix make sure something like this can never
Speaker 12: happen again. They get its accountability and transparency that there's
Speaker 12: a lack of, and they've gone wild with this, able
Speaker 12: to cloak themselves and be blameless on many things.
Speaker 3: All right, we're way late for a break here. Fifty
Speaker 3: five KRC the talk stays Hie, Ryan tell us here
Speaker 3: for four an extreme.
Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC DE talk station. How much does that
Speaker 1: report with You got a giant buy in to their
Speaker 1: five hundred and something pages of Select Subcommittee Coronavirus Pandemic Report,
Speaker 1: two years worth of work right there. One of the
Speaker 1: biggest things to me was the and you get into
Speaker 1: this a lot, and the report was about the whole
Speaker 1: thing about misinformation. And I mean, we see how bloated,
Speaker 1: how inept, how fraudulent our federal bureaucracies really can be.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to misinformation, you talk about the
Speaker 1: spread of misinformation through conflicting messages, knee jerk reactions, lack
Speaker 1: of transparency. The most egregious examples of Pervasi's misinformation all
Speaker 1: flabeled drug use lab LEAUE theory. And the biggest purveyor
Speaker 1: of misinformation, it turns out, was the federal.
Speaker 3: Government, without a doubt.
Speaker 12: And this goes to one of the things that I
Speaker 12: said from the very beginning, and I said that it's
Speaker 12: a secretary as are America needs to hear from the
Speaker 12: doctor's treating COVID patients. Imagine the difference every day if
Speaker 12: you had a doctor anywhere around the country stepping out
Speaker 12: to a flood of microphones, lowering his mask, saying, here's
Speaker 12: what I saw today.
Speaker 1: Well, and I remember a group of doctors coming out
Speaker 1: who were treating COVID patients at the time, and this
Speaker 1: one doctor who had like a Jamaican accent, a big woman,
Speaker 1: came out and said, I'm treating these patients with hydroxychloriclin.
Speaker 1: It's working. This is working, this is working. And those
Speaker 1: people got shut down. I mean they were never seen
Speaker 1: or heard from again.
Speaker 12: They got shut down by people that were never standing
Speaker 12: over patients watching them die, desperate to try and save life.
Speaker 12: And it's easy for them because people were just numbers
Speaker 12: on paper to them, and that would be the difference.
Speaker 12: That's why we had the wrong messenger. That's part of
Speaker 12: this report, too, is who's going to be the messenger
Speaker 12: in a situation like this? Trust it is.
Speaker 1: It is one of the most Unamerican things that I
Speaker 1: can possibly think of, that our government was actively involved
Speaker 1: in shutting down a dissenting voices like this, not because
Speaker 1: the information was wrong, but simply because it went against
Speaker 1: the official government narrative.
Speaker 12: That's exactly right, and that sounds pretty communists or socialist
Speaker 12: to me. And then you had people like Jay Botacher.
Speaker 3: Our media was cheering it on the whole time.
Speaker 12: Well, they're part of it, they're part of it, they're
Speaker 12: they're right in on it. They get their talking points
Speaker 12: from the Democrat Party and they go for it. And
Speaker 12: that's the administration that was leading this. And I mean
Speaker 12: within the agencies. I don't know if somebody's a Republican
Speaker 12: or Democrat, but I do know in the White House
Speaker 12: what they are. And so if that's where things are
Speaker 12: coming from with a political directive, it's a problem. And
Speaker 12: you saw people like Jay Bodicheria, who you know, the
Speaker 12: Great Barrington Declaration. Okay, you may disagree with parts of it,
Speaker 12: but have the scientific debate. You know, we've we found
Speaker 12: out there was no science behind the mask, there was
Speaker 12: no science behind six feet. Actually that was being more
Speaker 12: directed by the teachers union who wanted a trigger to
Speaker 12: close the schools. That's in the red as well. But
Speaker 12: you have these people that were actually just having a
Speaker 12: scientific debate and they were being chastised, they were being humiliated,
Speaker 12: they were really being told. The public was being told
Speaker 12: that these people don't know what they're talking about and
Speaker 12: actually they do, and I just give you examples. So
Speaker 12: the doctor patient relationship was just destroyed. If the government's
Speaker 12: going to tell you, here's the mandate, you've got to
Speaker 12: do it. They sped up approving the vaccine so the
Speaker 12: government could issue the mandate. Because then they made it
Speaker 12: fully approved. You had two people from the FDA walk
Speaker 12: away saying, no, this is wrong. You're speeding this process
Speaker 12: up for political purposes. The mandate, to me was one
Speaker 12: of the most obscene things. Americans want to be educated,
Speaker 12: not indoctrinated, and they want to see it.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 12: That came from somebody who was hesitant to take the vaccine.
Speaker 12: When I explained who's vulnerable and what it does and
Speaker 12: what it doesn't do, person said, I'm more likely to
Speaker 12: take it now. But you just educated me. I don't
Speaker 12: want to be indoctrinated. That's where I got Yeah, And
Speaker 12: so this is just human nature. These are the things
Speaker 12: that we talk about in our report of how we
Speaker 12: can do things better. But you put shoved these people aside.
Speaker 12: You ended scientific debate, and American people quit falling for it.
Speaker 12: By and large, even though their favorite news station might
Speaker 12: continue to spew these things, people fell off that's why
Speaker 12: Donald Trump went overwhelmingly one of the reasons why.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing how the tentacles of this carry
Speaker 1: on into everyday life, every day, people's interaction with government
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 3: And it's going to continue, I think, for a long
Speaker 3: time to come.
Speaker 1: Seven forty six another quick break in here, and then
Speaker 1: we'll continue on on fifty five KRCV talking about.
Speaker 3: Fifty five KRCD talk station.
Speaker 1: Bred Winstrip is here talking about the five hundred, five
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four.
Speaker 12: Pages five twenty and then seventeen pages of recommendation yea future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And.
Speaker 1: I mean there are so many elements to this. And
Speaker 1: then I was talking earlier about how each one of
Speaker 1: these is a major scandal. I mean, why don't we
Speaker 1: deal with scandal in this country the way we used
Speaker 1: to deal with it.
Speaker 12: You know, it used to be truth justice in the
Speaker 12: American way, right. You know, even as a teenager when
Speaker 12: Watergate was going on, you know, I was proud of
Speaker 12: Republicans because everyone was just after the truth. And you know,
Speaker 12: if that meant there's ramifications, then then so be it.
Speaker 12: I had the same approach in my mind on Intelligence
Speaker 12: Committee when we were looking into the fake Well, we
Speaker 12: didn't know it was fake Russian collusion. I went in
Speaker 12: open minded if Trump did something wrong and so be it.
Speaker 12: Well we quickly found out not only did he do
Speaker 12: nothing wrong, whatsoever they did They they paid for that
Speaker 12: whole thing.
Speaker 3: And and and you know, at the end.
Speaker 1: Of the day, even though the Inspector General proved it
Speaker 1: and they knew it was fake, still nothing else.
Speaker 3: And they and they continued to lie to them.
Speaker 12: They were they were part of it. And because why
Speaker 12: that's media the media should be driving like why haven't
Speaker 12: heads rolled? Why haven't heads rolled? Because if their side's
Speaker 12: the one doing the scandals, and and they have a
Speaker 12: side in media, then they don't want to pursue it.
Speaker 12: And look, we saw this the teachers Union, the teachers
Speaker 12: Union were the Biden transition team reached out to the
Speaker 12: teachers union right away after he won and basically started
Speaker 12: asking them what they would want for schools as far
Speaker 12: as closures and the rules. The teachers Union, not scientists,
Speaker 12: not the CDC. Randy Winegarden had uh Randy Winegarden had
Speaker 12: the head of the CDC, well director Willinskey's personal sell
Speaker 12: And you go through the Teachers' Union's documents and their
Speaker 12: internal conversation. And I'm not blaming every teacher on this,
Speaker 12: I'm blaming the leadership of the union.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 12: They said, we need a trigger to close. What we're
Speaker 12: after is a trigger to close. So what they wanted
Speaker 12: was like ten feet of distancing. Why, well, you can't
Speaker 12: go back to school in.
Speaker 1: Person, kids, but you look at the unintended consequences there,
Speaker 1: and so we ended up with six Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: kids working from home and parents looking over their shoulder
Speaker 1: at what they're learning on the computer. And the parents
Speaker 1: are like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 3: We learned that, We learned that.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, this is what's going on in the school,
Speaker 1: and the rest and the rest is history. There talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about Andrew Cuomo, Yes, in New York,
Speaker 1: and you've recommended him for criminal investigation.
Speaker 12: Yes, And that criminal retro is because they issued a
Speaker 12: report that tried to play down the nursing home deaths
Speaker 12: and lower the number, and that was discovered even by
Speaker 12: the Attorney general.
Speaker 1: And he destroyed documents. Uh, he never he produced documents.
Speaker 1: He didn't really produce documents. He he often claimed he
Speaker 1: didn't know anything. So, for example, so he wrote a
Speaker 1: book he wrote a book about his great leadership during the.
Speaker 12: WU case in point, when we asked him how he
Speaker 12: wrote his book, he pointed to his head and said,
Speaker 12: it's all here. We said, what, what, what did you
Speaker 12: refer to? What documents did you refer to? He pointed
Speaker 12: to his head writer up there, and he said it
Speaker 12: was all right here. But then he doesn't recall anything,
Speaker 12: so he doesn't so he issues a directive. And I
Speaker 12: think this is something I really want the audience to hear,
Speaker 12: is what he did, and where we had bipartis support
Speaker 12: from physicians to call it malpractice. CDC guidance issued guidance
Speaker 12: guidance saying talking about quarantining this and that. So when
Speaker 12: we came to nursing homes for some reason, Governor Cuomo
Speaker 12: issued a direct if not guidance, but a directive.
Speaker 3: That's an order, right.
Speaker 12: And he said that no nursing home will can deny
Speaker 12: someone admission to the nursing home with a diagnosis of
Speaker 12: COVID nineteen or a presumed diagnosis of COVID nineteen. And
Speaker 12: then he said, and you are prohibited from even testing
Speaker 12: them for COVID nineteen. What kind of nonsense is this?
Speaker 12: And how can the nursing home treat the patient appropriately
Speaker 12: and protect the other patients appropriately if they don't know
Speaker 12: the status, don't know who should be quarantined, and can't
Speaker 12: say we can't take you because we can't quarantine you.
Speaker 12: That's what that directive did. It made no sense. And
Speaker 12: the CDC guideline said, you can refuse someone if you
Speaker 12: can't adhere to the proper protocols. You don't take someone
Speaker 12: highly contagious and put him next to the most vulnerable,
Speaker 12: which the elderly. Were they most and they have comorbidities.
Speaker 12: They are the absolute most vulnerable population in America. And
Speaker 12: he took highly contagious people and made them be admitted
Speaker 12: to the nursing homes. Then it's an interview months a
Speaker 12: month or so later and people asked him about it.
Speaker 12: He said, oh, I didn't know anything about that. He
Speaker 12: said he knew nothing about it. Well, there's evidence to
Speaker 12: the contrary. But besides that, then he wanted to report
Speaker 12: put out that said that wasn't as bad as they're
Speaker 12: saying it was. You know that we didn't have all
Speaker 12: these nursing home deaths. What they ignored was people that
Speaker 12: were in the nursing home got COVID, went to the
Speaker 12: hospital and died. They ignored all those deaths to lower
Speaker 12: the number. He said he didn't have anything to do
Speaker 12: with any of this. Well, it was interesting. We asked
Speaker 12: him if he edited that report in any way, shape
Speaker 12: or form, and he said no. US what whistleblowers came forward.
Speaker 12: We have emails it said, here are the governor's edits,
Speaker 12: and then we got the edits in his handwriting on
Speaker 12: the report.
Speaker 1: That's why he was referred. Yeah, that's why he was
Speaker 1: so lying in front of Congress. Is still frowned upon.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear it.
Speaker 3: It's frowned upon by Congress, that's for sure. Thank you
Speaker 3: very much. All right, can you you do? You want
Speaker 3: to hang around for another half an hour? I wish
Speaker 3: I could got to go.
Speaker 1: I wish I could write, you've got other obligations.
Speaker 3: Fine, I do, and I head back to d C
Speaker 3: today as well.
Speaker 1: But because we literally could have done the whole show
Speaker 1: from five o'clock on.
Speaker 3: No, I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: There's so much here and the more and the more
Speaker 1: you talk about it, the more my memory is jogged
Speaker 1: about things that that I want to talk to you
Speaker 1: about but you know what, maybe we can do it
Speaker 1: again sometimes.
Speaker 12: You know, it's so true and even during our two years,
Speaker 12: you know, as I look back on stuff that we
Speaker 12: did in the first couple of months, it's like, gosh,
Speaker 12: I almost forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing, and we forgot that really covered that
Speaker 1: it really is. But this report is great. This is
Speaker 1: a lot of material for future talk shows for me.
Speaker 1: So I want to thank you for that.
Speaker 3: Well, and I'll be around more importantly.
Speaker 1: I'll be around, yeah, more importantly for the American people exactly,
Speaker 1: and for America going forward.
Speaker 12: And we tried to make it an easy read for people,
Speaker 12: you know, not overly scientific, and in the case of that,
Speaker 12: we're making break it down, explain it. And I think
Speaker 12: that we did that and people can take it one
Speaker 12: section at a time. Like I'm interested in the school closures,
Speaker 12: I'm interested in masks. I want to see what you
Speaker 12: found about all these things.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I got to talk to Chrisman then
Speaker 1: after eight o'clock, so we'll hear what he has to say.
Speaker 1: But brad Winstrop, you're looking good, brother, great to see you.
Speaker 12: Well, you know what, I can stay fifteen more minutes
Speaker 12: if you want me to fifteen minutes, I can stay
Speaker 12: another fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good. Let's do that and Joe will
Speaker 1: do that. And we got to get to the news
Speaker 1: here at the top of the hour though, Dan Carroll
Speaker 1: for Briant Thomas with brad Winstrop on fifty five krs
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Speaker 1: More minutes with not Greg Landsman, but brad Winstrom and
Speaker 1: brad winst used to be my we were talking about
Speaker 1: that off the area. It used to be my congressman,
Speaker 1: but then they changed districts on me. I didn't move,
Speaker 1: but the district movement district and now and now you're
Speaker 1: you were you know, you're not my representative Ohio.
Speaker 12: Loss of seed, which you know doesn't help us. But anyway,
Speaker 12: that's that's part of it. That's thanks.
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean, we're talking about the report two
Speaker 1: years were the work from the subcommittee that you were
Speaker 1: the chairman of, and uh, I mean you get into
Speaker 1: every single aspect of everything that was that was related
Speaker 1: to UH to COVID nineteen one that we haven't touched
Speaker 1: on a lot. Yet, is the vaccines you were you
Speaker 1: were in favor of Operation Warp Speed. Absolutely, you said
Speaker 1: before that it saved lives. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who would probably argue with you on that that the
Speaker 1: COVID vaccines actually wound up maybe doing more harm than good,
Speaker 1: that maybe they you know, some people died because of
Speaker 1: taking the vaccine who didn't need it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, let's talk about that, because you know, I followed
Speaker 12: the trials closely. Actually I tried to get in the trial,
Speaker 12: but when I went over to UC, I had just
Speaker 12: given blood and that disqualified me.
Speaker 3: So I couldn't get in it. But I watched it
Speaker 3: very closely.
Speaker 1: Well, what about all the reporting that the big pharmaceutical
Speaker 1: companies withheld information about the trials that they did What.
Speaker 12: About all Well, I don't think they withheld information. I
Speaker 12: think from the trials because the trials were pretty clear.
Speaker 12: You're not going to you know, we didn't do a
Speaker 12: good job of and this is part of our report.
Speaker 12: We didn't do a good job of adverse effects of
Speaker 12: the vaccines, things like that vaccine injuries. We got to
Speaker 12: clean up that. But look, think about what was going on.
Speaker 12: Millions of people did die. People were die dying, but
Speaker 12: we knew who was dying and who was most vulnerable
Speaker 12: to a large degree, you know percent, but to a
Speaker 12: large degree what the trials showed and I said this
Speaker 12: from sorry, here's what the trial showed. That just because
Speaker 12: you get the vaccine doesn't mean you can't get COVID.
Speaker 12: It's different from the others. The mRNA technology is different
Speaker 12: from the vaccines. We grew up with that being said.
Speaker 12: That should have been something everyone was aware of.
Speaker 1: But yet that was part of the original narrative from
Speaker 1: this government and from the media was that if you
Speaker 1: get the vaccine totally you can't get it, you can't
Speaker 1: spread it.
Speaker 12: Fauci said it, and you know, I pointed out to
Speaker 12: him that's not true, and the trials had shown that.
Speaker 12: But people were dying and people were people did well.
Speaker 12: The trials showed that if you get the vaccine, you're
Speaker 12: less likely to die and less likely to get as sick,
Speaker 12: but you can still get COVID. It was not a
Speaker 12: dead end for the virus. Doctor Fauci said that to
Speaker 12: me was a form of malpractice, if you will, by
Speaker 12: telling the people that, because that's not true, and you
Speaker 12: know how it is with drugs. You got to list
Speaker 12: every side effect you guys, you got to be honest
Speaker 12: about it. This is where we went way wrong. We
Speaker 12: weren't honest about it. So it was approved for emergency use.
Speaker 12: That should be a decision between you and your doctor,
Speaker 12: as we have data of who's dying, what's worse. Does
Speaker 12: the benefit out weigh the risk for you depending upon
Speaker 12: your health status. That's where we were, That's what it
Speaker 12: should have been. And again at the beginning, it was
Speaker 12: just for the most vulnerable. But then they wanted you know,
Speaker 12: you're two your you're two month old to get vaccinated.
Speaker 3: I mean it.
Speaker 12: It was ridiculous, no evidence out there to say that
Speaker 12: that should happen. And we talked before. People want to
Speaker 12: be educated, not indoctrinated, and that comes from sitting, having
Speaker 12: a chance to sit with your physician discuss your health.
Speaker 12: I'll give you an example. So I was told that
Speaker 12: before I could go to Germany for a security conference
Speaker 12: and I needed to get a booster.
Speaker 3: And I said, okay, well, listen.
Speaker 12: I had two doses of Pfizer and months later I
Speaker 12: was cooking and I couldn't smell garlic salt, and I
Speaker 12: said to my wife, I've got COVID or had it?
Speaker 12: I said, maybe last week. Remember I had a chill
Speaker 12: one day, I probably got COVID. I didn't go get
Speaker 12: tested because I figured I had it okay and recovering
Speaker 12: and now you know, doing fine, and no one in
Speaker 12: my family was sick either. Now, before I was to
Speaker 12: get this booster, I said, I want to get my
Speaker 12: antibodies and tea cells. And on that on the hill,
Speaker 12: they said, oh, we can't do T cells. Our lab
Speaker 12: can do antibodies. Let's let's see where they are. A
Speaker 12: strong number was forty. My number was eight hundred and
Speaker 12: twenty one. If I if you sit with your doctor
Speaker 12: and your numbers eight hundred and twenty one, your doctor's
Speaker 12: going to say, I don't see what a booster's going
Speaker 12: to do for you. Matter of fact, I'm a little
Speaker 12: concerned you might get a hyper immune response. That's what
Speaker 12: doctor Winster would say to a patient.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 12: But this is the environment that we were in. And
Speaker 12: it's interesting now that they don't if you see the ads,
Speaker 12: they don't call it the COVID vaccine anymore. They call
Speaker 12: it the COVID shot, COVID shot of the COVID boosters,
Speaker 12: and variants are not a new idea. That's what viruses do.
Speaker 12: So when we had COVID and then we had variants,
Speaker 12: it shouldn't be shocking. The conversation should be there's probably
Speaker 12: going to be some variance. We'll see if they're more
Speaker 12: infectious or less effect infectious. What do we have to
Speaker 12: have to do.
Speaker 1: Are we supposed to believe, because it's being put out
Speaker 1: to us now that hey, your annual flu shot and
Speaker 1: get your COVID shot at the same time, that these
Speaker 1: two things are kind of akin to each other.
Speaker 12: Yea, And I think that's a conversation you have with
Speaker 12: your doctor. I would tell you my kids are young
Speaker 12: eleven and seven. We're at the pediatrician's office, and the
Speaker 12: pediatrician says, I just don't see where there's benefit compared
Speaker 12: to the little risk of getting this vaccination. And not
Speaker 12: only that, we really don't know. And I said this
Speaker 12: from the very beginning, to be honest with patients. I
Speaker 12: can't tell you what we're going to know about this
Speaker 12: vaccine ten years from now, twenty years from now, I'm
Speaker 12: not certain. Just my own observations. We know that COVID
Speaker 12: was creating clots. People were throwing clots with COVID H.
Speaker 12: We know that people, young males were getting myocarditis from
Speaker 12: the vaccine.
Speaker 1: So well, I mean so, I don't know what. So
Speaker 1: that's one of the other elements of this. There are
Speaker 1: so many anecdotal stories out there about young people, athletes
Speaker 1: who are in good shape, people you know, marathon runners,
Speaker 1: basketball players dropping dead after they get the vaccine.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I had a parent call me. He's a county commissioner,
Speaker 12: and he said, hey, my son's in high school. They're
Speaker 12: telling him he has to get the vaccine. I said,
Speaker 12: is he healthy and he said yeah. I said, well,
Speaker 12: are you worried about myocarditis from the vaccine?
Speaker 3: He said yeah.
Speaker 12: I said, well you should be. You should be. I said,
Speaker 12: but I think maybe do this at this point. I
Speaker 12: said maybe. At this point. What you do is you
Speaker 12: get one dose of pfiser, go to your doctor, talk
Speaker 12: to your doctor about it. Get one dose of Pfiser,
Speaker 12: and that gives you good protection because the milecarditis is
Speaker 12: occurring after the second dose, very few, if any had
Speaker 12: it after the first dose. Then you'll have coverage, and
Speaker 12: you know, get a note from your doctor saying he's covered.
Speaker 12: He got he got the one dose, He's good to go.
Speaker 12: The school boards were rejecting things like this.
Speaker 3: Who were they?
Speaker 12: Do you understand where I'm saying, But we have to
Speaker 12: have a better reporting system, data system so that doctors
Speaker 12: with their patients can make decisions this best for their patient.
Speaker 1: All right, a minute and a half left, and then
Speaker 1: I know you got to go. It seems like the
Speaker 1: melding and the overlap of politics and science and and health.
Speaker 1: It seems like these things we'd be better off if
Speaker 1: we can keep these things in separate lanes. I mean,
Speaker 1: keep the politics out of health information, yes, and science information?
Speaker 1: How important is that moving forward?
Speaker 12: Absolutely? You know there's a White House pandemic Preparedness team
Speaker 12: right now and a former Air Force surgeon heads it,
Speaker 12: and he wanted to meet with the Republican Doctor's Caucus,
Speaker 12: which he did, and he said, how do we re
Speaker 12: establish trusts? And I said, get it out of the
Speaker 12: White House. Get it out of the White House. And
Speaker 12: that's in our proposals that we put a construct together.
Speaker 12: We're a team, an agnostic team that may be part
Speaker 12: of the executive branch, but is out of the White House,
Speaker 12: not sitting in the White House, and they will decide,
Speaker 12: CDC does this, NIH does this, NIAI D does this.
Speaker 12: FDA has to do this, and you all report to
Speaker 12: us because we got different messages from different components of
Speaker 12: our government throughout happen, and you have to not only
Speaker 12: say here's what we think, but here's why, that's what
Speaker 12: we need to do.
Speaker 3: All right, with that, brad winstrip, we'll let you go.
Speaker 3: Thanks for the time. It's great, great seeing you again.
Speaker 3: Thanks for being here. You too, and I'll be around.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm leaving Congress, but I'm not not gone.
Speaker 3: I know you'll be around.
Speaker 1: But whatever your your next chapter in life holds, you're
Speaker 1: gonna knock it out of the park just like you've
Speaker 1: done up to this.
Speaker 3: Oh you're kind. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean i've seen you in action. Thank
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you still look great in the uniform.
Speaker 1: And I've seen you speak at veterans events and Memorial
Speaker 1: Day things and things like that, and it's been fantastic.
Speaker 1: But thanks for the time, and I have a great day,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk some more.
Speaker 3: About this down the road. Thank you, God blessed.
Speaker 1: All right on fifty five KR se DE talk station
Speaker 1: fifty five KR see the talk station What a day.
Speaker 1: What a day today, brad Winstrip just left the studio
Speaker 1: and great to talk with him for more than an hour,
Speaker 1: talking about his committee report looking at the COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: and joining us now is the one time vice mayor
Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati, Chris smitham and and Chris,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had a chance to listen
Speaker 1: to brad Winstrip at all, but hey, you know when
Speaker 1: you look back at these days of what was going
Speaker 1: on during the Wuhan virus, and I mean all the
Speaker 1: things that happened that surrounded government, one scandal on top
Speaker 1: of another.
Speaker 3: You know, when.
Speaker 1: You talk about the way they were trying to suppress
Speaker 1: free speech, when whether or not the virus came from
Speaker 1: a lab, whether it was you know, came from nature.
Speaker 1: When you talk about the billions of dollars that got
Speaker 1: flushed down the toilet, I mean, the tentacles of this
Speaker 1: and the scandals related to this, it just really it's
Speaker 1: going to wind up being I think one of the
Speaker 1: more shameful chapters in American history, the way that all
Speaker 1: this is shaking out.
Speaker 5: Well, of course day morning, and yes I was listening.
Speaker 5: I consider Congressman brad Winster of a friend. Was you know,
Speaker 5: definitely sad to see him go after twelve years of
Speaker 5: service and you know, a person who gave up a
Speaker 5: very successful medical practice to do it, and you know
Speaker 5: it's time for him to come home and be with
Speaker 5: his wife and be with his kids and be a
Speaker 5: dad and and make some money. So you know, he
Speaker 5: has he has given a lot in the military. He
Speaker 5: now has given a lot in Congress. And uh, definitely, Dan,
Speaker 5: I was, you know, glad that that Congress of brat
Speaker 5: Winster was there at the hell investigating what happened during COVID.
Speaker 5: I think for me, you know, this most recent pardon
Speaker 5: by President Biden should catch the imagination of all Americans
Speaker 5: because of the broadness of the pardon and the reason
Speaker 5: I raise it in the context of your interview with
Speaker 5: Congress from brad Winstrop is I believe that President Biden
Speaker 5: is going to continue some very broad pardons prior to
Speaker 5: January twentieth, and some of those pardons might connect with
Speaker 5: the interview that you just had. So I think that,
Speaker 5: you know, I would not be surprised if he partons
Speaker 5: Fauci in a very broad way over a number of years.
Speaker 5: And we don't even know what he's being pardoned for nothing.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Isn't it customary to have committed a crime or have
Speaker 1: done something wrong before you received the pardon or actually
Speaker 1: have been sentence yet for something, yes, or found guilty.
Speaker 3: Of something yeah.
Speaker 5: Yes, And so I think they're very nervous about some
Speaker 5: of the selections that are coming from President Electroump, these
Speaker 5: administrative big moves at the top that will just release
Speaker 5: information to the public here or the emails, here at
Speaker 5: the memo, here are the meetings, And I think it's
Speaker 5: going to be incredibly transparent and telling for all of
Speaker 5: us over the next two or three months. I'm talking
Speaker 5: about January, February, and March as information is released about
Speaker 5: what was really happening. And I think it's connected directly
Speaker 5: to the interview that you just had with Congressman brad Winstrop. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, we spend so much time talking about the
Speaker 1: swamp that Washington is the gender, it's the chiselers that
Speaker 1: the you know, the ne'er do wells that didn't have
Speaker 1: at that place. And I was asking him off the
Speaker 1: air about what he was going to miss about being
Speaker 1: in DC, and I think there, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of honorable people, and I think brad Winstroup is
Speaker 1: one of the honorable people. And you know, going into
Speaker 1: this select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, I asked him
Speaker 1: if if he had a preconceived notion or what he
Speaker 1: wanted the results of this to be. And he said no,
Speaker 1: he said, we went in to find facts. We went
Speaker 1: in to find out why this happened, how it happened,
Speaker 1: what was done right, what was done wrong, and to
Speaker 1: get to the truth of the matter and report to
Speaker 1: the American people. And so many times Chris smitheman, when
Speaker 1: when you have committees like this, they go in with
Speaker 1: a preconceived notion of what they want to find, what
Speaker 1: they want to report, what they want the end product
Speaker 1: to be, and they go in with blinders on trying
Speaker 1: to get fromt you know, trying to get to that
Speaker 1: predetermined conclusion. And I think brad Winstrop is a great
Speaker 1: example of a real servant to the American people. And
Speaker 1: I think he ran this committee with great integrity, and
Speaker 1: I first.
Speaker 5: I agree with you, and I also think he did
Speaker 5: it in a bipartisan way, which is, you know, very
Speaker 5: unusual in Congress. So it just shows again, you know,
Speaker 5: his willingness to reach across the aisle and look for facts.
Speaker 5: But let me pivot Dan Carroll into the pennycase, which
Speaker 5: I think we're going to find some type of determination today.
Speaker 3: Well I hope. So you know what, Chris, can you
Speaker 3: hang around for one more segment?
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Okay, we got to get to a break right here.
Speaker 1: We'll do that on the other side of the break,
Speaker 1: and I've got another question for you as it relates
Speaker 1: to as it relates to cryptocurrency, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that as we roll on till nine o'clock this morning,
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas, and we will continue
Speaker 1: with Chris Smithman on the other side of this on
Speaker 1: fifty five krc DE talks about nine on this Monday morning,
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, we are talking with Chris
Speaker 1: Smithman the smither Vent, a late version of the smith
Speaker 1: Event on this Monday morning. And you were talking about
Speaker 1: the Penny trial in New York City, and to my
Speaker 1: way of thinking, a terrible miscarriage of justice, a trial
Speaker 1: that should never have been brought. You've got to al
Speaker 1: Everyone talks about Alvin Bragg, but the prosecutor that's actually
Speaker 1: running the case in the courtroom did an interview some
Speaker 1: time ago talking about another case she had where she
Speaker 1: felt bad for the defendant because the defendant didn't have
Speaker 1: any life growing up, and so therefore she let him
Speaker 1: off the murder charge that this individual had committed.
Speaker 3: Is that the standard that we should have for justice
Speaker 3: in this country.
Speaker 5: It absolutely is not. And what was so telling about
Speaker 5: the testimony are the number of African Americans, people of color,
Speaker 5: men and women, white, black, other who testified and said,
Speaker 5: I thought my life was on the line, and so
Speaker 5: you have this good samaritan, and some people might be
Speaker 5: listening to our interview and they don't even know what
Speaker 5: we're talking about. Where last week the judge said, hey,
Speaker 5: you no longer have to consider manslaughter. Look at the
Speaker 5: second charge. It's a lesser charge where he could get
Speaker 5: four years. But the implications around race, because I believe
Speaker 5: that if Penny, who is a veteran white male who
Speaker 5: intervened for the black people who were on the train,
Speaker 5: the white people who were on the train, the men
Speaker 5: and women, see, they don't tell that part of the story.
Speaker 5: They don't talk about the diversity of people that were
Speaker 5: looking at him, going, oh my god, we're on this train.
Speaker 5: There's no cops down here, and this man just got
Speaker 5: on the train and said he feels like he's going
Speaker 5: to kill somebody and doesn't worry about what happens to
Speaker 5: him if he does it. And so the notion of
Speaker 5: the ripple effect across the United States of America. They
Speaker 5: convict this good samaritan. What do we do when we're
Speaker 5: in those situations? If you have a prosecutor that will say,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'll put you in jail if you intervene,
Speaker 5: what does that good samaritan have to do? Dan Carol,
Speaker 5: Wait for him to stabb somebody, wait for him to
Speaker 5: start shooting in the in the train. Tell me what
Speaker 5: that standard looks like. And so the reason those New
Speaker 5: Yorkers are grappling with this is that because of the
Speaker 5: crime ridden city that they live in, and they're sitting
Speaker 5: there going, well, what if my daughter was in that situation,
Speaker 5: What if I was in that situation, What if my
Speaker 5: spouse was in that situation? What do we want Penny
Speaker 5: to stand up and do something about it? And so
Speaker 5: the problem with this brother is you being my white
Speaker 5: brother and us having these conversations is these are the
Speaker 5: kinds of things that try to divide us in a country.
Speaker 5: We've got to be able to look at the fact
Speaker 5: pattern and say, this has nothing to do with race.
Speaker 5: This has to do with people on a train where
Speaker 5: they felt that their lives were on the line, and
Speaker 5: there was a veteran there who said, as a good samaritan, listen,
Speaker 5: I'm going to try to intervene and I'm going to
Speaker 5: try to save lives. And by the way, I heard
Speaker 5: a great interview. They said, if this man had done
Speaker 5: it on the battlefield, they would have been giving him
Speaker 5: a purple heart. Because he did it in New York
Speaker 5: on a subway. We're going to give him four years
Speaker 5: or we're going to give him fifteen years in prison.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we're going to just have to hope
Speaker 1: that this jury comes to their senses and finds him
Speaker 1: not guilty on all these counts. Let me, let me,
Speaker 1: let me pivot now, Chris Smytherman, And one of the
Speaker 1: more less talked about aspects of Donald Trump is that
Speaker 1: he has become an advocate for cryptocurrency. In your role
Speaker 1: as a financial planner, I would imagine that you're asked
Speaker 1: about this all the time, you talk about it from
Speaker 1: time to time with the people that you deal with.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on the issue of cryptocurrency? And
Speaker 1: you know, you look at bitcoin these days and I
Speaker 1: think it was Thursday or Friday last week it went
Speaker 1: up over one hundred thousand dollars for a single bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Absolutely amazing. I wish I would have bought it back
Speaker 1: when I had the chance to buy it when it
Speaker 1: was you know, when you could buy you know, buy
Speaker 1: it for less than a penny apiece. But well, you know,
Speaker 1: how important is is the fact that that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has become an advocate for cryptocurrency? How important is that
Speaker 1: going to be? You think when we talk about these
Speaker 1: issues going forward.
Speaker 5: Well, I think when he walked into that restaurant with
Speaker 5: those young people and bought that burger with bitcoin during
Speaker 5: the campaign trail, he was sending a message that, hey,
Speaker 5: this is something that I think is real. You know,
Speaker 5: I have to you it's something that I don't understand.
Speaker 5: I'm more like a warm buffet here where you know,
Speaker 5: I'm a wait and see. But there hasn't been a
Speaker 5: person in the White House, you know, me serving as
Speaker 5: a financial planner where someone is saying, hey, through the
Speaker 5: public policy of the United States of America. We're we're
Speaker 5: going to legitimize this currency. So I think that this
Speaker 5: is going to be a very interesting time about what
Speaker 5: this regulation look around that. I think it's going to
Speaker 5: be very interesting about what this regulation look in general,
Speaker 5: whether it's banking, whether it's the oil industry, whether it's
Speaker 5: the aviation industry. You know, what is what is this?
Speaker 5: What is this Trump administration going to look like? What
Speaker 5: mergers does he allow to go through? I'm not naming any,
Speaker 5: but think of some right here in Cincinnati, Ohio. What
Speaker 5: what kind of mergers will this administration be friendly to
Speaker 5: that others won't. I think things like you know what
Speaker 5: our social media platforms are doing or not doing is
Speaker 5: going to hit his radar two just because of his experiences. Now,
Speaker 5: Dan Carroll, let me say this, because I know I
Speaker 5: don't have a lot of time. All right, let me
Speaker 5: say this to you, brother. Let me say this to
Speaker 5: you brother. Look, people keep saying that this administration is
Speaker 5: going to be about retribution. And I don't see that,
Speaker 5: Dan Carroll. I don't I don't see an administration coming
Speaker 5: in saying I'm coming in here to hurt somebody. What
Speaker 5: I do see is an administration coming in saying I'm
Speaker 5: willing to be transparent and tell the American people what
Speaker 5: is actually going on with their government. And I love
Speaker 5: the fact that they're talking about cutting, meaning you have
Speaker 5: from Eli Musk and the VIC saying hey, listen, I'm
Speaker 5: going to look at our budgets, see what we've been
Speaker 5: buying in the Pentagon or or what kind of studies
Speaker 5: like monkey studies I've heard about on TV that we've
Speaker 5: been funding with our government, and look at those things
Speaker 5: and say, are those those are those priorities for the
Speaker 5: United States of America. If they're not, we've got to
Speaker 5: cut them. And I loved your show at the beginning
Speaker 5: when you said, hey, this is about groceries. This election
Speaker 5: was I just laughed. We would just say, hey, this
Speaker 5: is about groceries, and it was so simple and it
Speaker 5: was so true. He didn't say inflation, he said groceries.
Speaker 5: And that's what this election was about. And if he
Speaker 5: can bring those prices down, if he can if he
Speaker 5: can bring peace around the United States of America, this
Speaker 5: is going to be a great administration for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be great to see. And when
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about and going back, did
Speaker 1: this even ties in to what we were talking to
Speaker 1: brad Winstrop about, Because it's the it's the bloat, it's
Speaker 1: the inefficiency, it's the waste of this government and the
Speaker 1: size and scope of the federal bureaucracy that we have
Speaker 1: that got us into this Wuhan situation to begin with,
Speaker 1: because all this money was going to the Wuhan Lab
Speaker 1: in China to pay for all this research that they
Speaker 1: were not supposed to be paying for. And Fanci said,
Speaker 1: you know what I signed off on, you know, a
Speaker 1: few billion here and a few billion there. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's for. They put it in
Speaker 1: front of me, eye sign it. The money goes out
Speaker 1: the door with someone else. Is someone else's job to
Speaker 1: account for all that, not me, you know, the guy
Speaker 1: that's spending all that money, and the and the way
Speaker 1: it's set up that kind of I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's ever going to change, but at least the way
Speaker 1: of thinking about it might have to change. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what this the Doge Committee is probably going
Speaker 1: to do the best at.
Speaker 5: And I think this notion where we see pictures of
Speaker 5: federal employees taking bubble baths and and and saying they're
Speaker 5: working from home. There's one thing that there's one thing
Speaker 5: that people might even know what you and I talking about.
Speaker 13: But the ouse there there's god yeah, yeah, that are
Speaker 13: literally in a bubble bath. I mean, if that's what
Speaker 13: you're doing, you know, with our federal dowts, there are
Speaker 13: people that work from home every day.
Speaker 5: It makes all the sense in the world. But but
Speaker 5: there are people that need to come back in. That
Speaker 5: would be one of them who's taking images of himself
Speaker 5: nude in a in a in a bathtub. And by
Speaker 5: the way, when I look at this case that's breaking
Speaker 5: right now with p Diddy, right, Beyonce and jay Z,
Speaker 5: I want everybody to hear what I'm saying. Listen, don't
Speaker 5: defend it. This is an Epstein situation on fire. It's
Speaker 5: a mess out here. This is gonna get really messy.
Speaker 5: And with Beyonce out trying to endorse Vice President Harris,
Speaker 5: all of these things at the end could have all
Speaker 5: been connected. Right. People could have been trying to cover
Speaker 5: their hindsight, just like icy President Biden when he says
Speaker 5: he's gonna he might partner his brother. We have no
Speaker 5: idea here but to wake up and see these headlines
Speaker 5: where these two men are being accused of raping a
Speaker 5: thirteen year old child, where one rate the other watched,
Speaker 5: one rate the other watched, and there were other people
Speaker 5: there in the room. If any version of this is true,
Speaker 5: these people should be under the jail, never to see
Speaker 5: the light ever again. And that has to be our position,
Speaker 5: Dead Carroll. Now, I believe that people are innocent and
Speaker 5: tell proving guilty. But I'm letting you know there's enough
Speaker 5: out there with P Diddy, with these videos, and you
Speaker 5: go out there and you see sympathy for this man,
Speaker 5: there should be no sympathy. We should be trying to
Speaker 5: find out the number of children that this man has
Speaker 5: probably destroyed their lives. Terrible.
Speaker 1: There's always people out there that want to prevent us
Speaker 1: from seeing the truth. And as our friend Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: likes to say, the truth sell sevent you free, Chris smithvan.
Speaker 5: With that so much, Dan Carroll, appreciate you man. People
Speaker 5: can follow me on x at vote Smitherman and I
Speaker 5: tweeted you all the time. I hope you watch it, babe.
Speaker 5: I do take care, have a.
Speaker 3: Great all the time.
Speaker 1: Brother, brother, You're the best. Chris Smithvan, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I'm with that we will get to a break. We're
Speaker 1: a little bit late for Dan Carroll, for Brian Thomas
Speaker 1: on fifty five krc DE talk station this Christmas.
Speaker 3: Keep your doctors.
Speaker 1: Fifty five krs the talk station if you want to
Speaker 1: get on board and weigh in on what Chris Smithman
Speaker 1: had to say or Congressman Winstrom five three seven, fifty
Speaker 1: five hundred, those are the numbers to call. And Brad
Speaker 1: Winstrom just did a great job with this Select Subcommittee
Speaker 1: on the coronavirus pandemic. He put out a thumbnail sketch
Speaker 1: of the report in a press release, and it talks
Speaker 1: about the origin, talks about gain of function research, talks
Speaker 1: about EcoHealth Alliance under the leadership of doctor Peter Dazac,
Speaker 1: used US taxpayer dollars to facilitate dangerous gain of function
Speaker 1: research in Wuhan. After these Select Subcommittee released evidence of
Speaker 1: EcoHealth violating the terms of its NIH grant, the US
Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services commenced official debarment proceedings
Speaker 1: suspended all funds to EcoHealth. New evidence also shows the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice has opened to investigation into Ecohealth's pandemic
Speaker 1: Eric era activities. So I mean this whole thing, and
Speaker 1: I mean, what a great conversation about the pandemic and
Speaker 1: what was happening during that time. And it's amazing how
Speaker 1: much how much was out there and how much was forgotten.
Speaker 1: And in real time there were people saying this isn't right.
Speaker 1: These things should not be happening this way. And what
Speaker 1: I was saying during all this was that the government
Speaker 1: has gone too far. You've got too many people. And
Speaker 1: it happened here in Ohio, and it happened in another
Speaker 1: states who were drunk with power that they normally didn't have,
Speaker 1: and they just went too far with some of these things.
Speaker 1: And the whole notion about suspending the constitution in order
Speaker 1: to deal with this pandemic. We cannot let that happen again.
Speaker 1: So we got to get to a quick break here
Speaker 1: and then we'll take some of your phone calls five one, three, seven,
Speaker 1: fifty five hundred as we wrap up this final segment
Speaker 1: of Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas on the fifty
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Speaker 1: On this Monday morning, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas five
Speaker 1: one three seven fifty five hundred. If you want to
Speaker 1: weigh in this morning, let's go to Milford and say
Speaker 1: hey to Steve. Steve you're on fifty five KRZ.
Speaker 9: Good morning, great show, Thank you, Steve. I've got a
Speaker 9: lot of research on vaccines, especially coronavirus, and the truth
Speaker 9: is out there. There are a lot of medical truth tellers.
Speaker 9: The people at risk from COVID nineteen were the elderly
Speaker 9: with comorbidities, compromise immune systems. Young people were not at
Speaker 9: risk and the vaccine was a greater risk to them
Speaker 9: than the disease.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean, Steve, I think you're right
Speaker 1: about that. But the thing is, and I and I
Speaker 1: touched on this with brad winstrip is that why if
Speaker 1: you remember why all this was going on, a lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff was being called out in real time,
Speaker 1: and the and just the idea that you would suggest
Speaker 1: something different, or you would suggest that something needs to
Speaker 1: be looked at aside or something that was different from
Speaker 1: the official government narrative was put down, was frowned upon,
Speaker 1: You were maligned, you were made fun of. No, we
Speaker 1: have to trust the science that comes from where only
Speaker 1: the government and nowhere else. And that is I mean
Speaker 1: that that is so far from the American way, so
Speaker 1: far from the things that make our country great. And
Speaker 1: that's the sort of thing that I was railing against
Speaker 1: the entire time the pandemic was going on.
Speaker 3: I agree with you one hundred percent, Steve. I appreciate
Speaker 3: you checking in today, Thank you very much. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the I mean, and the and the report and
Speaker 1: the thumbnail sketch that the brad Winstrop put out was
Speaker 1: just fantastic. And I'll go back to the origins of
Speaker 1: the coronavirus and the most likely it's most likely that
Speaker 1: the coronavirus emerged from a lab and will hunt China.
Speaker 1: And they've got a lot of great points here. They
Speaker 1: make five different points in this and Number one, the
Speaker 1: virus possesses a biological or possesses a biological charistic that
Speaker 1: is not found in nature. That to me seems like
Speaker 1: pretty conclusive evidence that the virus came from the lab.
Speaker 1: Number two, data shows that all COVID nineteen cases stem
Speaker 1: from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to
Speaker 1: previous pandemics where multiple spillover events. Number three, Wuhan is
Speaker 1: the home of China's foremost Stars Research Lab, which has
Speaker 1: a history of conducting gain of function research at inadequate
Speaker 1: biosafety levels. Number four Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers were
Speaker 1: sick with a COVID like virus in the fall of
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, months before COVID nineteen team was discovered at
Speaker 1: the wet market. And I can remember back to those
Speaker 1: days where we first heard a few scattered reports of this,
Speaker 1: and I remember watching what I might have been CNN
Speaker 1: one night and there was a commentator on CNN and
Speaker 1: this was probably in October or November of that year,
Speaker 1: and this commentator on CNN said, after the first of
Speaker 1: the year, this, this Wuhan virus, this China virus, is
Speaker 1: going to be the major story that everyone is talking about.
Speaker 1: And I remember thinking to myself at the time, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's right. You know, these medical stories, these
Speaker 1: virus stories, and right like the.
Speaker 5: What was it?
Speaker 1: The what was that one called Joe with the cow
Speaker 1: not the cow virus? Yeah, mad cow, that's it. Remember
Speaker 1: the mad cow that was out there for what about
Speaker 1: two or three weeks and everyone was all concerned about
Speaker 1: the mad cow. All the jokes are being made and
Speaker 1: everything that went away after a short amount of time.
Speaker 1: I thought this would go the same way back then,
Speaker 1: but of course it did not, and we're still talking
Speaker 1: about it today.
Speaker 3: Number five.
Speaker 1: By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence
Speaker 1: of a natural origin, it would have already surfaced. So
Speaker 1: I look at this and there's I guess we still
Speaker 1: need to sort of cross that final threshold before we
Speaker 1: can say that it definitively came from a lab. But
Speaker 1: Brad Windsurp was great on that, and I want to
Speaker 1: thank him once again for being here today. You can
Speaker 1: look for him to do future shows with Brian Thomas
Speaker 1: on this, and I mean, there is just so much
Speaker 1: to talk about from the five hundred plus page report
Speaker 1: that his committee has put out. In any case, that
Speaker 1: is going to do it for me. I am out
Speaker 1: of here. Joe Strecker, thank you for everything, Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me in. And later this month I get to
Speaker 1: do a couple of more days of the Brian Thomas Show,
Speaker 1: so I am certainly looking forward to that. Until next time,
Speaker 1: all the best to you. Have a great day, and
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time here on fifty five KRC
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