Speaker 1: Everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony Gerdaman
Speaker 1: here right now. Once again it's on the Ohio State
Speaker 1: campus with Juck Maloddy, Jack Tony, how's it going fantastic? Fuddy,
Speaker 1: how you doing pretty good? Got to see your first
Speaker 1: fall camp practice of the day. Kind of a shortened affair,
Speaker 1: but still plenty to see. And then we talked with
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, Peyton Piers, Devin Sanchez, and Luke Montgomery and
Speaker 1: we're going to cover as much as we can before
Speaker 1: the sun goes down the darkness gets here about twelve hours,
Speaker 1: eight hours, nine hours until starts getting dark.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a long, long, long show. Strong
Speaker 2: right in my face. It was warm out here. It
Speaker 2: was it was. It was a warm one.
Speaker 1: But let's just start with what Ryan Day? The first
Speaker 1: question that Ryan Day got today because it was the
Speaker 1: question everybody had trying to watch practice.
Speaker 3: Where's Legend Bay? Where's Legend Bay? Was not on the sideline,
Speaker 3: wasn't anywhere to be seen.
Speaker 2: He wasn't in the facility. Sometimes you can go find
Speaker 2: them riding the bike. He is on leave. No, he's
Speaker 2: what did he even say? Suspended?
Speaker 1: He's violation of team rules, minor violation of team rules.
Speaker 2: He'll be back in a few days. So that's that's
Speaker 2: where he was.
Speaker 1: That's where he wasn't and there's the story on that one.
Speaker 1: He's got to get back, and not just on the field,
Speaker 1: but in good graces.
Speaker 2: And Tony he lost his number in spring.
Speaker 3: He pulled his number away, not something we often see, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, so that's kind of I don't know what
Speaker 3: to call it strike to but that's the second incidence
Speaker 3: that he's been of something, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: And we're not going to get into the.
Speaker 1: Rumors, but you know that's not great for refreshmen, right,
Speaker 1: And one that there's been so much talk about, so
Speaker 1: much excitement about, not just from fans or media, but
Speaker 1: also from the coaches and people inside the building, because
Speaker 1: he could do things that really nobody else on the
Speaker 1: team can, so which we still haven't seen that once, right,
Speaker 1: and we won't right Frankly, I've seen more from Turbo
Speaker 1: Rogers in practice, and now I've only seen it in
Speaker 1: practice from Turbeau because he's been hurt as well. But
Speaker 1: somebody we have seen some of and continue to see
Speaker 1: more of, and will continue to see more of as
Speaker 1: Isaiah West, who had a really good day. Now there's
Speaker 1: no tackling, there's no thudding yet, but even watching him
Speaker 1: out there, he's moving well. But it's the things that
Speaker 1: people were saying about him that really have you thinking
Speaker 1: like he's he's going to have a good.
Speaker 2: Year this year.
Speaker 3: Not just Ryan Day, but also Peyton Pierce both talked
Speaker 3: about Isaiah West's off season as being one of the best.
Speaker 3: Ryan Day talked about his injury his freshman year that
Speaker 3: happened in the spring of this freshman year, uh and
Speaker 3: are coming into the spring and the injury that he
Speaker 3: kind of dealt with last year and saying, you know,
Speaker 3: that's an injury that can sometimes take a year or
Speaker 3: two to heal from totally. But the offseason we saw
Speaker 3: from Isaiah West, he said, was just outstanding.
Speaker 2: He's obviously stronger. You can see his body's different.
Speaker 3: He's up to two twenty two twenty three to two
Speaker 3: twenty five ish, and Peyton Pierce talked about how explosive
Speaker 3: he is, how hard he is to tackle, how he's
Speaker 3: in a hole and then he's out of a hole,
Speaker 3: and these are all things that are fantastic to hear.
Speaker 3: As we talk about the potential of getting a running
Speaker 3: back that can carry a game, take it over.
Speaker 2: Which is what, right nance that we need this year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's if you're going to win a championship.
Speaker 1: Every time Ohirishtated has won a championship, they've had a
Speaker 1: running back that they can lean on and shoot. You
Speaker 1: can go back to Maurice Clarett and go to Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: to Trevion Anderson and Trevire quinch Own Judkins. That one
Speaker 1: two punch. Maybe that's the one two punch this year.
Speaker 1: But the who is Travion and who is quin sewn
Speaker 1: after one day might have been adjusted because maybe Isaiah
Speaker 1: is quin sewn and Bo Jackson is the Travion in this.
Speaker 1: And I say that because Travion Anderson never had a
Speaker 1: game of more than nine carries in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: I don't expect that to be the case for Bo Jackson.
Speaker 1: It's just you can't make too much after one one
Speaker 1: fall camp practice, no pads, no tackling, none of that.
Speaker 1: But we did see quite a bit of Isaiah West
Speaker 1: with Julian say it.
Speaker 3: Now, as we look forward into the season, are you
Speaker 3: starting to maybe feel like we might see and We've
Speaker 3: talked about this throughout the offseason. Potentially more of a
Speaker 3: even this style split between the two of those, at
Speaker 3: least maybe coming into the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I you know, when Tom and I did our expectations
Speaker 1: show for Isaiah West, we were both around like seven
Speaker 1: to fifty eight hundred yards, But with Bo Jackson, we're
Speaker 1: around like, you know, eleven to twelve hundred and maybe
Speaker 1: the more accurate answer is nine fifty nine fifty, you know.
Speaker 1: So there will be some game where Isaiah West leads
Speaker 1: the team in rushing. There'll be games when Bo Jackson
Speaker 1: leads the team in rushing, and it's just who leads
Speaker 1: them and carries who tells you the real story, and
Speaker 1: that's quinch On Jenkins had about forty or fifty more
Speaker 1: carries than Trayvon Henderson in twenty twenty four. And I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the interesting thing to watch. I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to say it's gonna be fifty to fifty,
Speaker 1: but I'd be more. I think it's gonna be more
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty than sixty forty, Like, do you like
Speaker 1: sixty sixty forty?
Speaker 2: To me, feels like that's a true two man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, right.
Speaker 3: So in addition to that, I thought Chcobbe Jackson he
Speaker 3: did look pretty good. I mean, in the event that
Speaker 3: you need to go to your third back this year
Speaker 3: for a sustained amount of time, I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like this's a.
Speaker 3: Big upgrade and you're seeingior transfer this year than it
Speaker 3: was from last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the depth that they've got there.
Speaker 1: Speaking of depth, one of the other thing areas that
Speaker 1: Ryan Day said who's gonna be watching is basically who's
Speaker 1: that third, fourth, fifth, sixth wide receiver? Yeah, to come
Speaker 1: out and you know they've got some options. I was,
Speaker 1: this is the best I've seen Devin McEwan. I got
Speaker 1: to watch him in seven on seven and eleven on eleven.
Speaker 1: First play on seven on seven, Julian Saying went to
Speaker 1: him on a deep corner for about thirty yards and
Speaker 1: you know, he got I think he was being covered
Speaker 1: by Dom Kelly and he got he got open, nice
Speaker 1: break and went out of bounds around the five yard line.
Speaker 1: He was catching some other underneath stuff and running looked quick,
Speaker 1: looked fast. So again day one general, you know, these
Speaker 1: are not definitive things that we're seeing, but it was
Speaker 1: the best I've seen from him, the most I've seen
Speaker 1: from him, and really the most access I've seen I've
Speaker 1: had to see from him, because in the spring, I
Speaker 1: was a lot of being blocked and a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of short passes that we saw.
Speaker 3: Now has he been because he's been my guy that
Speaker 3: I think is going to be kind of a clear
Speaker 3: number two this year? Is that the way you felt
Speaker 3: about him before today? Are you feeling more like that now?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: When you say number two, number two to Jeremiah or
Speaker 1: number second team number two to Jeremy, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's what Ryan Day wants. And
Speaker 1: he was out there with the ones, and you know,
Speaker 1: because when they go to twelve personnel, who's leaving the
Speaker 1: field Brandon Innis or Devin McEwan, And that's a decision
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make. Kyle Parker was a little
Speaker 1: banged up today, a little hell back, but was also practicing.
Speaker 1: I know he was on the bike a little, So
Speaker 1: he's also going to factor into where, you know, who
Speaker 1: is one of these guys better than having a.
Speaker 2: Tight end out there?
Speaker 1: And I don't know that you need to take Devin
Speaker 1: McEwan off the field for a tight end because he's
Speaker 1: not a slot receiver. But we know Brandon Innis can
Speaker 1: play outside as well, so can Kyle Parker.
Speaker 2: Those are all things that are gonna have to happen.
Speaker 1: But I think he's if he finished his second catches,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me at all. And frankly, with what
Speaker 1: they've gotten the slot generally, that's a top level, a
Speaker 1: high content guy. But we saw with Carnel Tate that
Speaker 1: when you've got a number two is the Z, he's
Speaker 1: gonna get a bunch of catches as well.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I still don't know that I'm gonna go over forty
Speaker 1: forty catches for Devin McEwan. But also I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of guys in the twenty five
Speaker 1: to forty rae.
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be much more spread out. And
Speaker 3: I think you know to that four, five and six
Speaker 3: point that we're gonna see quite a few more snaps
Speaker 3: and quite a few more receptions for those four or
Speaker 3: five and six guys, which I think if we're talking four,
Speaker 3: five and six, we're talking then we would be Kyle Parker,
Speaker 3: Brock Boyd and Chris Henry Junior who round out that sixth.
Speaker 3: But then we got Phil Bell as a pretty dug on,
Speaker 3: solid looking wide receiver at this point right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's smooth and he's got good size. He could
Speaker 1: play insider out. I was impressed with Chris Henry Jr.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: He had some good catches. He was playing inside and
Speaker 1: out as well. Was he He lined up in the
Speaker 1: slot a couple of times so, and not just from
Speaker 1: like motion, but also from motion. So I think that's
Speaker 1: we're wondering, how are they gonna get Jeremiah Chris Henry
Speaker 1: on the field together. We know Jeremiah can play wherever,
Speaker 1: but the more that Chris Henry Junior can do, the
Speaker 1: more you can get them on the field. And just
Speaker 1: so you know, like right now, they're just playing four
Speaker 1: to three or free linebackers not necessarily in a four
Speaker 1: to three. They're not playing nickel yet. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, when you've got a linebacker on Chris Henry
Speaker 1: Junior in the slot or anybody in the slot, it's
Speaker 1: not a fair fight.
Speaker 3: Right now, it's not Tony. And you know they talked
Speaker 3: about his weight games that he gained ten to fifteen pounds.
Speaker 3: I think it's all in his lower body, his legs
Speaker 3: kind of like used to look a little string beanie man.
Speaker 2: He's looking much more put together.
Speaker 3: And that guy is just an absolute specimen, just a specimen.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I'm looking at second half of
Speaker 3: the year like all of a sudden, now, this is
Speaker 3: just a guy that you can't justify keeping off the field.
Speaker 3: That's the way I feel about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of like the he was the second
Speaker 1: half of the spring kind of guy. I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna see him a lot, because even even Marvin Harrison
Speaker 1: played a lot as a true freshman, a lot for
Speaker 1: a freshman, you know, but he only had like five
Speaker 1: catches until the final five or six catches until the
Speaker 1: rose ball. I think you're gonna see some similar playing time,
Speaker 1: but more catches for Chris Henry Junior throughout the season.
Speaker 1: And and yeah, it's gonna be impossible to keep him
Speaker 1: off the field. Two of those top three linebackers, the
Speaker 1: top three linebackers right now again day one were Peyton
Speaker 1: Piers in the middle, Christian Legro on the sam and
Speaker 1: then T J. Alfred at will and still working in
Speaker 1: Riley Petty John. I saw him only at sam today
Speaker 1: with the twos, Garrett Stover with the twos middle linebacker,
Speaker 1: and then Eli Lee was out there some some Sincere
Speaker 1: Johnson out there with the twos and threes, but right
Speaker 1: now the top three Peyton Pierce with the green dot,
Speaker 1: which he says he loves. He's this is to have control,
Speaker 1: to control, to have the control of the Matt Patrician
Speaker 1: defense for a linebacker after watching it last year has
Speaker 1: been a good sign or just you know that's you
Speaker 1: want your middle linebacker to do that.
Speaker 2: T J.
Speaker 1: Alfred was with the ones throughout most of the spring,
Speaker 1: was splitting time with Christian Allegro and alegro again out
Speaker 1: there doing what he does. So I'm gonna be fascinated
Speaker 1: to see how quickly Riley Petty john can get involved
Speaker 1: in that top competition.
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I was thinking probably coming into
Speaker 3: today that we were gonna see that at least being
Speaker 3: split with Riley working in. But still as we project out,
Speaker 3: looking at how generally they have a linebacker one and
Speaker 3: two with about seven hundred snaps and then linebacker three
Speaker 3: about three hundred snaps, I look for that linebacker three
Speaker 3: to be kind of even between Pettijohn and Alfred this year.
Speaker 3: But something I noticed that you thought might not mean anything,
Speaker 3: who knows it might but working with the defensive ends.
Speaker 3: They brought over two linebackers to work with the defensive ends,
Speaker 3: and it was Christian Allegro and TJ. Alford, not Riley Pettijohn,
Speaker 3: who I'd have thought would have potentially joined those guys
Speaker 3: over there working with those defensive ends for that period.
Speaker 1: You know, it was interesting early on when they're doing
Speaker 1: some just basic drills. I saw a couple of linebackers
Speaker 1: with a group of defensive ends. I'm like, why are
Speaker 1: those guys there running just running these things? And I
Speaker 1: also saw Don Kelly over there, like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: just a general defensive drill going, and it's like, why
Speaker 1: is that corner running those defensive end drills? But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think with the linebackers they like the depth. But again,
Speaker 1: you need to you need to see it out there.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. Jermaine Matthews was with the
Speaker 1: twos at corner, Dom Kelly was with the ones. When
Speaker 1: Devin Sanchez asked who's gonna be Who's gonna be playing
Speaker 1: alongside him? He said, we all know who, but he
Speaker 1: did not say who it would be. And then I'm like,
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm wondering because we have not seen
Speaker 1: Nickel yet and we saw Terry Moore with the twos.
Speaker 1: Is Jermaine Matthews going to be the number one nicol
Speaker 1: this year? And you've got Earl Little like you got
Speaker 1: Jermaine Matthews takes over for Lorenzo Styles, Earl Little takes
Speaker 1: over for Caleb Downs, and Jaylen McLay just does what
Speaker 1: he did last year, and then they mix it up
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: That's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of conclusions on day one, and I'm
Speaker 1: just you know, like, oh, the.
Speaker 2: Strings makes sense, it can make sense.
Speaker 3: But I remember last year at this time, Uh, we
Speaker 3: were talking about Caleb Downs being in the Nickel right right, yeah,
Speaker 3: out of spring last year, and uh, you know, ultimately,
Speaker 3: I think this is probably gonna end up status quote.
Speaker 3: But it is interesting that Germaine was with the twos.
Speaker 3: How did Dom Kelly look. I didn't get to see
Speaker 3: much of him.
Speaker 1: It looks fine, like I have no no complaints, although,
Speaker 1: like I said, he did give up the catch to
Speaker 1: Devin mqan the start. He's got good size, as you know.
Speaker 1: But Uh, since we're talking about corners. Den Sanchez, I
Speaker 1: whatever stock you know you want to buy it him,
Speaker 1: go ahead and do it.
Speaker 2: And he is.
Speaker 1: Dayne Pierce said that he's he's the most confident person
Speaker 1: he's ever met. And Denon Sanchez will tell you like,
Speaker 1: I want the thorpe. I want to be an All American.
Speaker 1: I was not happy with last year. Good learning lessons.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: He circled all of the games with the receivers that
Speaker 1: he's going to be going against, Cam Coleman, Charlie Becker,
Speaker 1: the Oregon guys that he knows, so he he knows
Speaker 1: what happened to him last year when he got picked on,
Speaker 1: and I think he's looking to return the favor in
Speaker 1: a big way this year.
Speaker 3: When he started naming them by name, Tony, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: they're gonna hear that.
Speaker 2: You know that. I mean, that's getting clipped and that's
Speaker 2: just like true.
Speaker 3: Number one, you know, type of dB in the country
Speaker 3: energy right there.
Speaker 2: Certainly we know he has the raw ability to do that.
Speaker 3: He talked about Tim Walton consistently making him uncomfortable, talked
Speaker 3: about how and I loved it last year that he
Speaker 3: took some lumps he thought that was a great thing
Speaker 3: for him, and everything he said today made it sound like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was a perfect thing for him. He took his lumps,
Speaker 3: he owned it, and he is feeling fully confident in himself.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt that he's an incredibly confident guy. But
Speaker 3: he did not sound like that last year, Like that
Speaker 3: wasn't the energy he was putting out last year. So
Speaker 3: he came in, learned, took his lumps, and now it's
Speaker 3: like I've arrived. I want to be an All American
Speaker 3: and I think everybody should be very excited for Ohio.
Speaker 3: State had one of the top three corners in the
Speaker 3: country this year in Devin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because one of my concerns coming into the year,
Speaker 1: coming into the spring was replacing David Nigunosen's physicality, volatility, confidence.
Speaker 1: And you talked to Devon Stantions now and this is
Speaker 1: not the same player that.
Speaker 2: He was last year.
Speaker 1: He is a veteran, He speaks like a veteran. He
Speaker 1: will answer any challenge basically and as the highest expectations.
Speaker 1: And the thing is he had high expectations for himself
Speaker 1: last year. But you know, you're a freshman, so there
Speaker 1: comes certain levels to this and now, Like I don't
Speaker 1: think there is a level for him now in terms
Speaker 1: of what he can be because, like he is, he's
Speaker 1: surpassed that now he's got to do it, as we know.
Speaker 1: But every time I saw him in spring, he was
Speaker 1: getting the better of Jeremiah Smith. And then I asked him,
Speaker 1: you know how much of an impact as jeremih Smith
Speaker 1: had in your developed He said, he's had the biggest impact. Yes,
Speaker 1: as they're going against each other, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know this, iron sharpens iron.
Speaker 2: I've heard that at once your time or two around here.
Speaker 1: But those guys going out and if you can, if
Speaker 1: you can hold your old with Jeremiah Smith, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be okay everywhere else. Now, you're gonna lose some because
Speaker 1: that's the nature of the position. Yeah, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: feel as prepared as anybody in the country at any
Speaker 1: position in the country.
Speaker 2: And he certainly does.
Speaker 3: And after naming off all those wide receivers and cam
Speaker 3: Coleman and Evan Stewart and Corey and Moore, he's got
Speaker 3: to go against he also reiterated that Jeremiah Smith is
Speaker 3: the best in the country, and he goes against him
Speaker 3: on a daily basis. I do want to say I
Speaker 3: also noticed before practice began that he is kind of
Speaker 3: embraced a bit of a leadership role. He was in
Speaker 3: front of the guys and hyping him up and having
Speaker 3: a dude like that, you know, a different kind of
Speaker 3: personality than Jeremiah, different kind of leader than Jeremiah. But
Speaker 3: I think he's really gonna step into that role big time.
Speaker 2: And I just couldn't be It couldn't be a better
Speaker 2: young dude. I mean, he's awesome. It's awesome kid.
Speaker 1: And Peyton Piers said he talks a lot and not
Speaker 1: just speaking, you know, talks a lot, probably as a leader,
Speaker 1: but also talks as a corner, which you want your
Speaker 1: corners to do.
Speaker 2: Very common. One of the best athlete commercials I've ever
Speaker 2: seen too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing and the offensive line let's go back there
Speaker 1: because we were wondering what is it, what is it
Speaker 1: gonna look like? On day one and Ryan Day at
Speaker 1: Big Time Media Day said, well, you know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna try a bunch of different things. And because
Speaker 1: he was asked, is Austin Siaveld moving And he's like,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, Well, you know we're gonna try some things.
Speaker 1: Day one, it's Ian Moore at left tackle, it's Austin
Speaker 1: Siraveld at right guard, like as as theorized, but then
Speaker 1: day tries to throw some water on that last week.
Speaker 1: Then happens today and he's asked about it. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna move, move guys around. We got to figure
Speaker 1: out what everybody can do. But it was very interesting
Speaker 1: on day one, the first time they have the first
Speaker 1: team offensive line out there. It is the five that
Speaker 1: has been speculated about this entire time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Certainly was, and it's he did mention at Big ten
Speaker 3: media days when he was talking about, you know, the
Speaker 3: potential options with Ian Moore, how good is he gonna
Speaker 3: do it left tackle?
Speaker 2: Phil, how good is he gonna do it right tackle?
Speaker 3: And then Padilla at guard again today he kind of
Speaker 3: brought those three scenarios up, and we had kind of
Speaker 3: many kind of took a jump into there to think
Speaker 3: that maybe gave Van Sickles not really in that conversation
Speaker 3: where we thought either Padica or Van Sickle Padilla at
Speaker 3: right guard, But it seems like Van Sickle not really
Speaker 3: in that conversation anymore. So it's pretty clear. There's three options, right,
Speaker 3: and it's I guess whatever. The difference is the difference
Speaker 3: that Austin Sarahveld makes from that next guy who is
Speaker 3: the greatest or the most right right, so he can
Speaker 3: play right tackle if that gap between him and the
Speaker 3: next guy, Phil Daniels is bigger than it is anywhere else.
Speaker 2: Wherever they can raise the floor the most they can
Speaker 2: put it.
Speaker 1: And they said they wanted to get a good look
Speaker 1: at him at guard because it's been a while. But
Speaker 1: this is a guy that I'm sure it just comes
Speaker 1: right back to him. It's like riding bike for him
Speaker 1: very much. Any position I'm thinking anything else that Jay Timmins. Again,
Speaker 1: there's no Nickel at this point, so Jay Timmins was
Speaker 1: outside corner. But there's there's a considerable amount of buzz
Speaker 1: about Jay Timmins right now in terms of the freshman
Speaker 1: Now he was on our list of one hundred snap guys.
Speaker 1: I believe yet, Like so, uh, there's no I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not backing off of that.
Speaker 2: That was a no doubt for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's the buzz you hear about you talk
Speaker 1: to people behind the scenes, and he's gonna play I
Speaker 1: don't know how, but they're gonna find some ways for
Speaker 1: him on the field, I think.
Speaker 2: No doubt.
Speaker 3: And I thought Sanchez gave him the biggest praise, talking
Speaker 3: like when he came in he's not just doing everything
Speaker 3: that everybody else is doing at a high level in
Speaker 3: the weight room, but not afraid of anybody, talking smack
Speaker 3: to the seniors, uh in on all the upper classmen
Speaker 3: and just fitting right in uh because he's just a
Speaker 3: true alf He's a true dog like and that's the
Speaker 3: kind of guy he is. And like I said on
Speaker 3: our show last week, like looking at him and Devin
Speaker 3: Sanchez next to each other, look like they play a
Speaker 3: different position. And the fact that that guy at his
Speaker 3: size was the number one corner in the country is
Speaker 3: unbelievable to me, and I think speaks to what an
Speaker 3: amazing football player he is.
Speaker 2: So I absolutely look for.
Speaker 3: Him to play it, to go easily over our hundred
Speaker 3: snaps and make it into that club.
Speaker 1: And I kind of figure like he will be the dime,
Speaker 1: which would just make him the second nickel, but also
Speaker 1: third and long or do you want real little defending
Speaker 1: slot receivers necessarily at a certain times. So much so
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some give and take there
Speaker 1: where they're gonna maybe take a safety off the field
Speaker 1: and put him in there.
Speaker 2: But anything else for him today that we have, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3: In the off season, Ohio State brought in Joe Kim,
Speaker 3: who is a longtime NFL guy. He's you know, he's
Speaker 3: a kung fu guy, originally hired by Belichick and Saban
Speaker 3: in Cleveland to assist these guys a defensive lineman in
Speaker 3: their handwork, and then he made a career out of that,
Speaker 3: went all around. He's worked for like sixteen different franchises
Speaker 3: or college programs, and now he finds himself at Ohio State.
Speaker 3: I was really surprised Tony at the level of coach
Speaker 3: coaching that he was doing today in Larry Johnson's unit.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was all in. It was his voice
Speaker 3: for a lot of the periods, and it just surprised
Speaker 3: me what a big role Joe Kim seems to be
Speaker 3: having with those guys. The drills they were doing, the
Speaker 3: handwork they were doing, I mean, it all looked really good.
Speaker 3: Of Course, Larry's always been known for good hand funding
Speaker 3: technique and such, but this might elevate it to a
Speaker 3: whole other level.
Speaker 2: So that was pretty interesting to me as well. And
Speaker 2: we'll get into a little D line. What do you
Speaker 2: think of that? Yeah, the D line.
Speaker 1: We were were I mentioned to you, it's like Drake
Speaker 1: Quinn looks bigger the freshman defense mean, good man, an
Speaker 1: athlete he was probably two twenty five in the spring,
Speaker 1: certainly looks bigger than that. Epimla looks like he's going
Speaker 1: to play this year. I think we're all now agreeing
Speaker 1: that bo Atkinson is the bo Atkinson we will see
Speaker 1: this year is what a lot of people expected last year.
Speaker 1: But those expectations I think we're a little out of
Speaker 1: based on he had two or three good games at UNC,
Speaker 1: never started the game, and now I think what we're
Speaker 1: seeing here, we're seeing him stronger, more athletic, knows what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: I think also helps. But your thoughts on both.
Speaker 3: I was a guy that had those expectations for a
Speaker 3: bigger impact player last year and quickly realized probably not.
Speaker 3: And then we're talking about a guy who lost snaps
Speaker 3: at the end of the year to a true freshman
Speaker 3: in Zion Grady.
Speaker 2: So coming into this year, you know, I know we've heard.
Speaker 3: A lot about both potentially you know, getting bigger and
Speaker 3: stronger and more athletic, which is a tough thing to do.
Speaker 3: So I don't know that I was so much buying it,
Speaker 3: but watching him today and I did spend most of
Speaker 3: the time, my time with the defensive line, I was
Speaker 3: really impressed. And I think that definitely this is a
Speaker 3: guy who clearly is much more powerful like that was
Speaker 3: that was very apparent and definitely felt like, you know.
Speaker 2: You can just feel the way ken Yata moves.
Speaker 3: It's just different, like I don't mean physically, but the
Speaker 3: way he operates around the other guys.
Speaker 2: Bo had a bit of that energy, and it felt
Speaker 2: like those are your two guys. Do you see?
Speaker 1: Because this has been my thing, my wondering for months
Speaker 1: now since last season, is Kenyada Jackson the Caden Curry
Speaker 1: where he's playing kind of that week side like he's
Speaker 1: on the open end, and bo Atkinson plays the Kenyada
Speaker 1: Jackson of the run support, strongside, defensive end.
Speaker 3: This year, My theory was always that Kenyada Jackson wasn't
Speaker 3: coming back unless they allowed him to at least get
Speaker 3: much more of that than he did last year to
Speaker 3: be in that Caden Curry role. And I also thought
Speaker 3: that that was a potential dilemma for this defensive line
Speaker 3: to find that guy who could do the Kenyata Curry role,
Speaker 3: the Kenyatta Jackson roll good enough to allow Kenyatta to move.
Speaker 2: They might have found it in Bo. They might have
Speaker 2: developed it and put it that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel more confident about it definitely today than
Speaker 3: I did yesterday. I'll say that I also want to
Speaker 3: hit on the guy that we thought on the defensive
Speaker 3: line was the most impressive freshman defensive tackle in the spring,
Speaker 3: and that's Damori Simeon. A lot of guys were talking
Speaker 3: about Jamiir Perez and Emanuel Ruffaman, it was actually Damari
Speaker 3: Simeon who was the guy that stood out as is
Speaker 3: the biggest playmaker to us. Damari also a little bit
Speaker 3: smaller than those guys. He has packed on a couple
Speaker 3: of slabs of muscle, tongue, some good weight.
Speaker 2: He looks good. The thighs look like this. I mean,
Speaker 2: he looks real good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't get enough time with the defensive line today,
Speaker 1: but I did want to get a look at Drake Quinn.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it sounds like jj Perez had some moments
Speaker 1: as well. From talking to other people overall. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't see much from Quay Russ. I'm still I
Speaker 1: still want to see more from Zion Grady frankly, not
Speaker 1: that there's a lot to see necessarily right now, but
Speaker 1: I'm wanting to see some flashing from some guys. But again,
Speaker 1: it's it's so early that and they're doing just a
Speaker 1: lot of play action and some rollouts, so it's hard
Speaker 1: for these defensive ends to get involved. But you know,
Speaker 1: it was good to see bo Atkinson kind of just
Speaker 1: look the part now physically, anything else anybody else stand
Speaker 1: out to you?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Carry Wilder of course, And I've
Speaker 3: always been kind of crazy about Carry. He looks mean, angrier,
Speaker 3: twitched up, just bad attitude, bad intentions, nasty, ready to go,
Speaker 3: and still got his black stripe. Yeah, so I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be watching very closely how long it takes him to
Speaker 3: get that black stripeer moved here in preseason.
Speaker 2: It should come pretty soon. If it doesn't, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: start getting concerned.
Speaker 1: Well, and they probably have to wait until the pads
Speaker 1: go on, yeah, you know, in which I think is
Speaker 1: like maybe practice four, which would be Sunday, I believe,
Speaker 1: So maybe you know there's no practice Monday. If you
Speaker 1: don't hear any news by Monday, all right, But uh yeah, Carrie.
Speaker 2: Wilder certainly looks the part. How do you feel about
Speaker 2: the number thirty four? I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's so unique on him, and I've always loved
Speaker 3: that number, but as a bat like Walter Payton, of course,
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I think he looks great in turn.
Speaker 2: But by the way, he's a lot to him. It
Speaker 2: was his high school number and he really wanted it.
Speaker 3: Coming to Ohio State, I thought he'd switched to a
Speaker 3: single digit, but that was something he actually really wanted.
Speaker 3: So we will look forward to him in thirty four
Speaker 3: for the rest of his career. Hoesty, he's not going
Speaker 3: to be changing that to a single digit.
Speaker 1: That's his number and we have not yet seen unless
Speaker 1: it's been put out there now in the Iron Buckeyes
Speaker 1: for the summer. That should come out anytime. The block
Speaker 1: o will be uh maybe next week or so. I
Speaker 1: know there are some guys who have changed numbers that
Speaker 1: were kind of like, you know, I want to keep
Speaker 1: this number rather than get a block Oh, but any
Speaker 1: thoughts on who that's going to.
Speaker 2: Be, Well, I would have to say though he said did,
Speaker 2: he says not.
Speaker 3: I don't think Kenyata Jackson would change his number, but
Speaker 3: I feel like that might be the guy to get
Speaker 3: the block.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but he switched it too, Yeah, exactly, So.
Speaker 3: You wonder how much that factor's in, like did you
Speaker 3: want the guy to wear the number? Because they've done
Speaker 3: that once where they didn't you know.
Speaker 1: But really when I was a league and that was
Speaker 1: a football rules right, you know, so rather than a choice.
Speaker 3: Remember, Denzel Burke said last year, before the year, if
Speaker 3: he got it, he wouldn't change.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: Really think some of them have that feeling like I
Speaker 3: don't I don't want it because I'm not going to
Speaker 3: change my number.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Denzel Burke because it took him a while to
Speaker 1: get finally to the number that he wanted, because he
Speaker 1: went through a couple of numbers. So then you're good,
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