WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.399 Everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony Gerdaman 2 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:36.960 here right now. Once again it's on the Ohio State 3 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:41.119 campus with Juck Maloddy, Jack Tony, how's it going fantastic? Fuddy, 4 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:43.000 how you doing pretty good? Got to see your first 5 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:46.280 fall camp practice of the day. Kind of a shortened affair, 6 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.240 but still plenty to see. And then we talked with 7 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:54.759 Ryan Day, Peyton Piers, Devin Sanchez, and Luke Montgomery and 8 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.000 we're going to cover as much as we can before 9 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:01.280 the sun goes down the darkness gets here about twelve hours, 10 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:03.880 eight hours, nine hours until starts getting dark. 11 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.200 So it's gonna be a long, long, long show. Strong 12 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:09.920 right in my face. It was warm out here. It 13 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:11.719 was it was. It was a warm one. 14 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:15.400 But let's just start with what Ryan Day? The first 15 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:16.959 question that Ryan Day got today because it was the 16 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.359 question everybody had trying to watch practice. 17 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.280 Where's Legend Bay? Where's Legend Bay? Was not on the sideline, 18 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:23.680 wasn't anywhere to be seen. 19 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.439 He wasn't in the facility. Sometimes you can go find 20 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:30.359 them riding the bike. He is on leave. No, he's 21 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:32.280 what did he even say? Suspended? 22 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:35.920 He's violation of team rules, minor violation of team rules. 23 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:39.000 He'll be back in a few days. So that's that's 24 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:39.599 where he was. 25 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:43.079 That's where he wasn't and there's the story on that one. 26 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.760 He's got to get back, and not just on the field, 27 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:47.719 but in good graces. 28 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.519 And Tony he lost his number in spring. 29 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:54.359 He pulled his number away, not something we often see, right, 30 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.560 I mean, so that's kind of I don't know what 31 00:01:57.680 --> 00:01:59.480 to call it strike to but that's the second incidence 32 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:01.439 that he's been of something, whatever it is. 33 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:02.359 And we're not going to get into the. 34 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:06.560 Rumors, but you know that's not great for refreshmen, right, 35 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:09.199 And one that there's been so much talk about, so 36 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:13.280 much excitement about, not just from fans or media, but 37 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:16.400 also from the coaches and people inside the building, because 38 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.120 he could do things that really nobody else on the 39 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:21.479 team can, so which we still haven't seen that once, right, 40 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.719 and we won't right Frankly, I've seen more from Turbo 41 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.960 Rogers in practice, and now I've only seen it in 42 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.240 practice from Turbeau because he's been hurt as well. But 43 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:33.560 somebody we have seen some of and continue to see 44 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.039 more of, and will continue to see more of as 45 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.560 Isaiah West, who had a really good day. Now there's 46 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:41.919 no tackling, there's no thudding yet, but even watching him 47 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:44.000 out there, he's moving well. But it's the things that 48 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:47.759 people were saying about him that really have you thinking 49 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:49.759 like he's he's going to have a good. 50 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:50.240 Year this year. 51 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:54.280 Not just Ryan Day, but also Peyton Pierce both talked 52 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:57.159 about Isaiah West's off season as being one of the best. 53 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:00.560 Ryan Day talked about his injury his freshman year that 54 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.280 happened in the spring of this freshman year, uh and 55 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:06.400 are coming into the spring and the injury that he 56 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:07.960 kind of dealt with last year and saying, you know, 57 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:09.879 that's an injury that can sometimes take a year or 58 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:13.639 two to heal from totally. But the offseason we saw 59 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:16.560 from Isaiah West, he said, was just outstanding. 60 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:19.840 He's obviously stronger. You can see his body's different. 61 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.479 He's up to two twenty two twenty three to two 62 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:26.360 twenty five ish, and Peyton Pierce talked about how explosive 63 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:28.400 he is, how hard he is to tackle, how he's 64 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:29.840 in a hole and then he's out of a hole, 65 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:33.400 and these are all things that are fantastic to hear. 66 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:36.280 As we talk about the potential of getting a running 67 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.800 back that can carry a game, take it over. 68 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:40.879 Which is what, right nance that we need this year. Yeah, 69 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:42.680 that's if you're going to win a championship. 70 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:44.599 Every time Ohirishtated has won a championship, they've had a 71 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.159 running back that they can lean on and shoot. You 72 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:51.080 can go back to Maurice Clarett and go to Ezekiel Elliott, 73 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:56.879 to Trevion Anderson and Trevire quinch Own Judkins. That one 74 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:00.520 two punch. Maybe that's the one two punch this year. 75 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:05.800 But the who is Travion and who is quin sewn 76 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:10.680 after one day might have been adjusted because maybe Isaiah 77 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:13.680 is quin sewn and Bo Jackson is the Travion in this. 78 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.519 And I say that because Travion Anderson never had a 79 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.000 game of more than nine carries in twenty twenty four. 80 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:20.920 I don't expect that to be the case for Bo Jackson. 81 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:24.120 It's just you can't make too much after one one 82 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:26.639 fall camp practice, no pads, no tackling, none of that. 83 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.040 But we did see quite a bit of Isaiah West 84 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:30.160 with Julian say it. 85 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:32.879 Now, as we look forward into the season, are you 86 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.879 starting to maybe feel like we might see and We've 87 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:38.759 talked about this throughout the offseason. Potentially more of a 88 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:41.560 even this style split between the two of those, at 89 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:42.720 least maybe coming into the year. 90 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:43.240 Yeah. 91 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.040 I you know, when Tom and I did our expectations 92 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:48.920 show for Isaiah West, we were both around like seven 93 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.160 to fifty eight hundred yards, But with Bo Jackson, we're 94 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:55.480 around like, you know, eleven to twelve hundred and maybe 95 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.399 the more accurate answer is nine fifty nine fifty, you know. 96 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.399 So there will be some game where Isaiah West leads 97 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:04.199 the team in rushing. There'll be games when Bo Jackson 98 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:07.199 leads the team in rushing, and it's just who leads 99 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.519 them and carries who tells you the real story, and 100 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:13.120 that's quinch On Jenkins had about forty or fifty more 101 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:17.600 carries than Trayvon Henderson in twenty twenty four. And I 102 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:20.199 think that's gonna be the interesting thing to watch. I'm 103 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:22.160 not ready to say it's gonna be fifty to fifty, 104 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:25.199 but I'd be more. I think it's gonna be more 105 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:29.959 fifty to fifty than sixty forty, Like, do you like 106 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:31.360 sixty sixty forty? 107 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.360 To me, feels like that's a true two man. Yeah, 108 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:34.360 for sure, right. 109 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:37.279 So in addition to that, I thought Chcobbe Jackson he 110 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:38.759 did look pretty good. I mean, in the event that 111 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.000 you need to go to your third back this year 112 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:43.560 for a sustained amount of time, I don't. 113 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:44.560 I mean, I feel like this's a. 114 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:46.759 Big upgrade and you're seeingior transfer this year than it 115 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:47.759 was from last year. 116 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.000 Yeah. I like the depth that they've got there. 117 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:53.040 Speaking of depth, one of the other thing areas that 118 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:55.720 Ryan Day said who's gonna be watching is basically who's 119 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:59.199 that third, fourth, fifth, sixth wide receiver? Yeah, to come 120 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.000 out and you know they've got some options. I was, 121 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:04.319 this is the best I've seen Devin McEwan. I got 122 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.680 to watch him in seven on seven and eleven on eleven. 123 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:09.680 First play on seven on seven, Julian Saying went to 124 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.759 him on a deep corner for about thirty yards and 125 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:14.519 you know, he got I think he was being covered 126 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.759 by Dom Kelly and he got he got open, nice 127 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.399 break and went out of bounds around the five yard line. 128 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:24.319 He was catching some other underneath stuff and running looked quick, 129 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:31.160 looked fast. So again day one general, you know, these 130 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.879 are not definitive things that we're seeing, but it was 131 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.319 the best I've seen from him, the most I've seen 132 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:40.040 from him, and really the most access I've seen I've 133 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.000 had to see from him, because in the spring, I 134 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.680 was a lot of being blocked and a lot of 135 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:46.160 a lot of short passes that we saw. 136 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:48.519 Now has he been because he's been my guy that 137 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.759 I think is going to be kind of a clear 138 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:54.199 number two this year? Is that the way you felt 139 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:56.600 about him before today? Are you feeling more like that now? 140 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:56.839 No? 141 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:58.759 When you say number two, number two to Jeremiah or 142 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.480 number second team number two to Jeremy, Yeah, yeah, I 143 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.240 think that's I think that's what Ryan Day wants. And 144 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:07.839 he was out there with the ones, and you know, 145 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:11.399 because when they go to twelve personnel, who's leaving the 146 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:16.079 field Brandon Innis or Devin McEwan, And that's a decision 147 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.759 they're gonna have to make. Kyle Parker was a little 148 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:21.480 banged up today, a little hell back, but was also practicing. 149 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:22.839 I know he was on the bike a little, So 150 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:26.240 he's also going to factor into where, you know, who 151 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.519 is one of these guys better than having a. 152 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:29.360 Tight end out there? 153 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.959 And I don't know that you need to take Devin 154 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:34.160 McEwan off the field for a tight end because he's 155 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:36.519 not a slot receiver. But we know Brandon Innis can 156 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:38.759 play outside as well, so can Kyle Parker. 157 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:40.720 Those are all things that are gonna have to happen. 158 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:44.480 But I think he's if he finished his second catches, 159 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.160 it wouldn't shock me at all. And frankly, with what 160 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:50.279 they've gotten the slot generally, that's a top level, a 161 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:54.240 high content guy. But we saw with Carnel Tate that 162 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.680 when you've got a number two is the Z, he's 163 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:59.079 gonna get a bunch of catches as well. 164 00:07:59.160 --> 00:07:59.720 So I don't know. 165 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.319 I still don't know that I'm gonna go over forty 166 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:05.480 forty catches for Devin McEwan. But also I think there's 167 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:06.879 gonna be a lot of guys in the twenty five 168 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:07.519 to forty rae. 169 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:08.079 I'm with you. 170 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.000 I think it's gonna be much more spread out. And 171 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:13.000 I think you know to that four, five and six 172 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.319 point that we're gonna see quite a few more snaps 173 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:18.720 and quite a few more receptions for those four or 174 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.480 five and six guys, which I think if we're talking four, 175 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.639 five and six, we're talking then we would be Kyle Parker, 176 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.920 Brock Boyd and Chris Henry Junior who round out that sixth. 177 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:31.600 But then we got Phil Bell as a pretty dug on, 178 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:33.840 solid looking wide receiver at this point right now. 179 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:35.840 Yeah, he's smooth and he's got good size. He could 180 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:38.840 play insider out. I was impressed with Chris Henry Jr. 181 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:39.080 Today. 182 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.240 He had some good catches. He was playing inside and 183 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:43.000 out as well. Was he He lined up in the 184 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:45.720 slot a couple of times so, and not just from 185 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:49.559 like motion, but also from motion. So I think that's 186 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:52.600 we're wondering, how are they gonna get Jeremiah Chris Henry 187 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:54.600 on the field together. We know Jeremiah can play wherever, 188 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:57.240 but the more that Chris Henry Junior can do, the 189 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:59.519 more you can get them on the field. And just 190 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:01.600 so you know, like right now, they're just playing four 191 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.039 to three or free linebackers not necessarily in a four 192 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:06.519 to three. They're not playing nickel yet. And I'm gonna 193 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:10.320 tell you, when you've got a linebacker on Chris Henry 194 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:13.480 Junior in the slot or anybody in the slot, it's 195 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:14.120 not a fair fight. 196 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.240 Right now, it's not Tony. And you know they talked 197 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:20.600 about his weight games that he gained ten to fifteen pounds. 198 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:23.080 I think it's all in his lower body, his legs 199 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:25.360 kind of like used to look a little string beanie man. 200 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:27.759 He's looking much more put together. 201 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.919 And that guy is just an absolute specimen, just a specimen. 202 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.440 I don't know, Like I'm looking at second half of 203 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.120 the year like all of a sudden, now, this is 204 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:40.120 just a guy that you can't justify keeping off the field. 205 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:41.480 That's the way I feel about. 206 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:43.840 Yeah, I kind of like the he was the second 207 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.960 half of the spring kind of guy. I think you're 208 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.600 gonna see him a lot, because even even Marvin Harrison 209 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:52.320 played a lot as a true freshman, a lot for 210 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:54.759 a freshman, you know, but he only had like five 211 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:57.240 catches until the final five or six catches until the 212 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:01.200 rose ball. I think you're gonna see some similar playing time, 213 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:03.960 but more catches for Chris Henry Junior throughout the season. 214 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.960 And and yeah, it's gonna be impossible to keep him 215 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:10.720 off the field. Two of those top three linebackers, the 216 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:15.440 top three linebackers right now again day one were Peyton 217 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:19.600 Piers in the middle, Christian Legro on the sam and 218 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:22.679 then T J. Alfred at will and still working in 219 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:24.919 Riley Petty John. I saw him only at sam today 220 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.399 with the twos, Garrett Stover with the twos middle linebacker, 221 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:32.480 and then Eli Lee was out there some some Sincere 222 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:36.759 Johnson out there with the twos and threes, but right 223 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:40.080 now the top three Peyton Pierce with the green dot, 224 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:44.440 which he says he loves. He's this is to have control, 225 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:46.720 to control, to have the control of the Matt Patrician 226 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.960 defense for a linebacker after watching it last year has 227 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:54.559 been a good sign or just you know that's you 228 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:56.279 want your middle linebacker to do that. 229 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:56.759 T J. 230 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:59.080 Alfred was with the ones throughout most of the spring, 231 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:02.399 was splitting time with Christian Allegro and alegro again out 232 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:06.000 there doing what he does. So I'm gonna be fascinated 233 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:08.600 to see how quickly Riley Petty john can get involved 234 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:10.200 in that top competition. 235 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:13.120 I gotta be honest, I was thinking probably coming into 236 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.720 today that we were gonna see that at least being 237 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:20.080 split with Riley working in. But still as we project out, 238 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:23.840 looking at how generally they have a linebacker one and 239 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:26.840 two with about seven hundred snaps and then linebacker three 240 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.720 about three hundred snaps, I look for that linebacker three 241 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:34.279 to be kind of even between Pettijohn and Alfred this year. 242 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.080 But something I noticed that you thought might not mean anything, 243 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:41.080 who knows it might but working with the defensive ends. 244 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.679 They brought over two linebackers to work with the defensive ends, 245 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:47.480 and it was Christian Allegro and TJ. Alford, not Riley Pettijohn, 246 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:50.440 who I'd have thought would have potentially joined those guys 247 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.559 over there working with those defensive ends for that period. 248 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:54.799 You know, it was interesting early on when they're doing 249 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.440 some just basic drills. I saw a couple of linebackers 250 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:00.879 with a group of defensive ends. I'm like, why are 251 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.000 those guys there running just running these things? And I 252 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:05.080 also saw Don Kelly over there, like, oh, this is 253 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:08.759 just a general defensive drill going, and it's like, why 254 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:12.840 is that corner running those defensive end drills? But yeah, 255 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:16.799 I think with the linebackers they like the depth. But again, 256 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:18.639 you need to you need to see it out there. 257 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:20.879 I thought it was interesting. Jermaine Matthews was with the 258 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.399 twos at corner, Dom Kelly was with the ones. When 259 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.080 Devin Sanchez asked who's gonna be Who's gonna be playing 260 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:29.759 alongside him? He said, we all know who, but he 261 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:33.519 did not say who it would be. And then I'm like, 262 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.919 in my mind, I'm wondering because we have not seen 263 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.080 Nickel yet and we saw Terry Moore with the twos. 264 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:41.759 Is Jermaine Matthews going to be the number one nicol 265 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:45.120 this year? And you've got Earl Little like you got 266 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.600 Jermaine Matthews takes over for Lorenzo Styles, Earl Little takes 267 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.120 over for Caleb Downs, and Jaylen McLay just does what 268 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:53.840 he did last year, and then they mix it up 269 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:54.279 a little bit. 270 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:55.799 That's a lot. 271 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.919 That's a lot of conclusions on day one, and I'm 272 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:00.679 just you know, like, oh, the. 273 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:02.559 Strings makes sense, it can make sense. 274 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:05.840 But I remember last year at this time, Uh, we 275 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.559 were talking about Caleb Downs being in the Nickel right right, yeah, 276 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:15.080 out of spring last year, and uh, you know, ultimately, 277 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:17.039 I think this is probably gonna end up status quote. 278 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:19.440 But it is interesting that Germaine was with the twos. 279 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.039 How did Dom Kelly look. I didn't get to see 280 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:22.440 much of him. 281 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.759 It looks fine, like I have no no complaints, although, 282 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.200 like I said, he did give up the catch to 283 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:29.039 Devin mqan the start. He's got good size, as you know. 284 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:33.399 But Uh, since we're talking about corners. Den Sanchez, I 285 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:36.159 whatever stock you know you want to buy it him, 286 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:36.720 go ahead and do it. 287 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:38.600 And he is. 288 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.120 Dayne Pierce said that he's he's the most confident person 289 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.639 he's ever met. And Denon Sanchez will tell you like, 290 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:46.960 I want the thorpe. I want to be an All American. 291 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:51.320 I was not happy with last year. Good learning lessons. 292 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:51.759 He said. 293 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.480 He circled all of the games with the receivers that 294 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.120 he's going to be going against, Cam Coleman, Charlie Becker, 295 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:01.279 the Oregon guys that he knows, so he he knows 296 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.240 what happened to him last year when he got picked on, 297 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:05.679 and I think he's looking to return the favor in 298 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:06.720 a big way this year. 299 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:11.799 When he started naming them by name, Tony, I was like, Oh, 300 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:12.879 they're gonna hear that. 301 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.440 You know that. I mean, that's getting clipped and that's 302 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.080 just like true. 303 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:21.639 Number one, you know, type of dB in the country 304 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:22.679 energy right there. 305 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.840 Certainly we know he has the raw ability to do that. 306 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:30.320 He talked about Tim Walton consistently making him uncomfortable, talked 307 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.519 about how and I loved it last year that he 308 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:34.919 took some lumps he thought that was a great thing 309 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:38.679 for him, and everything he said today made it sound like, yeah, 310 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.159 that was a perfect thing for him. He took his lumps, 311 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.919 he owned it, and he is feeling fully confident in himself. 312 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:48.879 There's no doubt that he's an incredibly confident guy. But 313 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:50.840 he did not sound like that last year, Like that 314 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:53.519 wasn't the energy he was putting out last year. So 315 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.440 he came in, learned, took his lumps, and now it's 316 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:58.840 like I've arrived. I want to be an All American 317 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.720 and I think everybody should be very excited for Ohio. 318 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:04.559 State had one of the top three corners in the 319 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:05.960 country this year in Devin. 320 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:08.080 Yeah, because one of my concerns coming into the year, 321 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:16.440 coming into the spring was replacing David Nigunosen's physicality, volatility, confidence. 322 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:20.480 And you talked to Devon Stantions now and this is 323 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:21.639 not the same player that. 324 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:23.000 He was last year. 325 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.600 He is a veteran, He speaks like a veteran. He 326 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:32.320 will answer any challenge basically and as the highest expectations. 327 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:34.759 And the thing is he had high expectations for himself 328 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:38.320 last year. But you know, you're a freshman, so there 329 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:41.440 comes certain levels to this and now, Like I don't 330 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:43.159 think there is a level for him now in terms 331 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.799 of what he can be because, like he is, he's 332 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:49.879 surpassed that now he's got to do it, as we know. 333 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:52.240 But every time I saw him in spring, he was 334 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:55.799 getting the better of Jeremiah Smith. And then I asked him, 335 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:57.960 you know how much of an impact as jeremih Smith 336 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:00.000 had in your developed He said, he's had the biggest impact. Yes, 337 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.039 as they're going against each other, I don't know if 338 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:04.320 you know this, iron sharpens iron. 339 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.200 I've heard that at once your time or two around here. 340 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.679 But those guys going out and if you can, if 341 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:12.120 you can hold your old with Jeremiah Smith, you're gonna 342 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:13.919 be okay everywhere else. Now, you're gonna lose some because 343 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.080 that's the nature of the position. Yeah, but you're gonna 344 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:18.000 feel as prepared as anybody in the country at any 345 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:18.960 position in the country. 346 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:19.919 And he certainly does. 347 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:22.759 And after naming off all those wide receivers and cam 348 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.320 Coleman and Evan Stewart and Corey and Moore, he's got 349 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.720 to go against he also reiterated that Jeremiah Smith is 350 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.320 the best in the country, and he goes against him 351 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.639 on a daily basis. I do want to say I 352 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:35.919 also noticed before practice began that he is kind of 353 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:38.559 embraced a bit of a leadership role. He was in 354 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.519 front of the guys and hyping him up and having 355 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:43.440 a dude like that, you know, a different kind of 356 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:46.840 personality than Jeremiah, different kind of leader than Jeremiah. But 357 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.159 I think he's really gonna step into that role big time. 358 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.159 And I just couldn't be It couldn't be a better 359 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.440 young dude. I mean, he's awesome. It's awesome kid. 360 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:57.240 And Peyton Piers said he talks a lot and not 361 00:16:57.279 --> 00:16:59.360 just speaking, you know, talks a lot, probably as a leader, 362 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:01.679 but also talks as a corner, which you want your 363 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:02.399 corners to do. 364 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:05.279 Very common. One of the best athlete commercials I've ever 365 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:05.680 seen too. 366 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:09.839 Yeah, amazing and the offensive line let's go back there 367 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:12.240 because we were wondering what is it, what is it 368 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:14.680 gonna look like? On day one and Ryan Day at 369 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:16.599 Big Time Media Day said, well, you know, we're gonna 370 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:18.480 we're gonna try a bunch of different things. And because 371 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:20.960 he was asked, is Austin Siaveld moving And he's like, 372 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:23.319 you know whatever, Well, you know we're gonna try some things. 373 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:26.680 Day one, it's Ian Moore at left tackle, it's Austin 374 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.880 Siraveld at right guard, like as as theorized, but then 375 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:33.720 day tries to throw some water on that last week. 376 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.480 Then happens today and he's asked about it. It's like, well, 377 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:38.079 we're gonna move, move guys around. We got to figure 378 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:40.480 out what everybody can do. But it was very interesting 379 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.000 on day one, the first time they have the first 380 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:46.200 team offensive line out there. It is the five that 381 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.319 has been speculated about this entire time. 382 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:50.039 Yeah, yeah, it. 383 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:54.960 Certainly was, and it's he did mention at Big ten 384 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.359 media days when he was talking about, you know, the 385 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:00.440 potential options with Ian Moore, how good is he gonna 386 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:01.279 do it left tackle? 387 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:03.440 Phil, how good is he gonna do it right tackle? 388 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:06.599 And then Padilla at guard again today he kind of 389 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:10.880 brought those three scenarios up, and we had kind of 390 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:13.960 many kind of took a jump into there to think 391 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:16.799 that maybe gave Van Sickles not really in that conversation 392 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:21.519 where we thought either Padica or Van Sickle Padilla at 393 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:25.039 right guard, But it seems like Van Sickle not really 394 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:29.200 in that conversation anymore. So it's pretty clear. There's three options, right, 395 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.319 and it's I guess whatever. The difference is the difference 396 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.640 that Austin Sarahveld makes from that next guy who is 397 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.279 the greatest or the most right right, so he can 398 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:42.599 play right tackle if that gap between him and the 399 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:45.839 next guy, Phil Daniels is bigger than it is anywhere else. 400 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.240 Wherever they can raise the floor the most they can 401 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:48.519