Speaker 1: Welcome to Political Beatdown. I'm Ben Mysells, joined by Michael Cohen.
We've got a lot to discuss, including the Manhattan District
Attorney filing its opposition to Donald Trump's motion to dismiss
the Manhattan criminal case where Donald Trump was convicted on
thirty four felon accounts, where Michael Cohen was the key
witness in that case. The Manhattan District Attorney's office was
addressing Donald Trump's absolute immunity arguments. The District Attorney argues
that Trump should not get absolute immunity, and basically what
they call for is a stay or a pause of
the proceedings over the next four years, to be renewed
and reevaluated after Donald Trump's term. That's the headline right there.
They make other arguments that we'll get into as well.
Of course, I want to hear from Michael Cohen, who
was the key witness in that case. Also should maybe
start the show. Cohen talking about these just very erratic
posts from Donald Trump, and the behavior already during this
presidential transition period is if you could even believe it
being more bizarre than his behavior during the campaign or
when he was previously in office. I mean he was
posting before, and why don't we start with this one,
Michael Cohen, what he's saying about Trudeau in Canada, calling
him the governor of the fifty first state. But before
doing that, let me just turn it over to you
before getting into the news. How are you doing, Michael Cohen?
Everybody cares a lot about you here on this network,
and the Midas Mighty and legal efforts and of course
the brigaders all want to make sure you're doing okay?
Speaker 2: Are you hanging I'm hanging in there. There's a lot
of angst. There's a lot of anxiety throughout the entire country.
I can't tell you the number of people, you know,
I do this TikTok thing just because I can't sleep
sometimes at night, and I can't tell you the number
of people that are dming me. It's like, how is
this happening? What's going to happen to our country? And
I tell everybody take the temperature down. Let's just all
take the temperature down. You know. I saw there was
an argument that took place between Ana Cabrera and Whoopy
Goldberg on the View. I don't know if you had
a chance, Ben to see it, but it's exactly what's
going on at dinner tables all around the entire country,
all around the country. In fact, it's even going on
around the world. I have friends from Italy, I have
friends from France and England that are like, what's going
to happen in America? I don't know. But what they
want is they want us only to be talking about them.
They only want to hear you know that everybody is
nervous that, you know, Project twenty twenty five is going
to take over and our country is going to go
from you know, our democratic republic to an autocracy and
so on. And the answer is no, it's not going
to happen. And I've said this at least a dozen times,
but I think it's really worth saying again. The founding
fathers of this country were brilliant, beyond beyond brilliant. It's
hard to imagine that a group of such geniuses existed
at a time to create a document that has long
existed during our two hundred and forty nine year history.
And during that two hundred and forty nine years, look
at what we've seen. We've seen fights right with King
Henry in order to obtain our independence from there. We
had World War one, World War two, we've had the
Great Depression, we've had civil rights, we've had a civil war,
we've had January sixth insurrection. And guess what we had
nine to eleven, and guess what we survived? Why? Because
the guard rails hold Now, you know, without even getting
into the summon substance or the merits regarding Matt Gates,
there were enough Republicans that said that mac Gates should
not be the attorney general, okay, and these twenty to
thirty Republican senators who said that they cannot, cannot go
along with this. That's how the guard rails hold themselves up.
So the question becomes whether or not the guard rails
will continue to hold up, or will some of these
nominees like a Pete hag Seth, who should not be
Secretary of Defense, the should not be running the Department
of Defense. Whether or not he is going to somehow
slide through, whether or not Trump is going to figure
out how to do these re sess appointments, none of
us know. But if we're going to allow them to
get into our heads, that's a danger to all of us.
That's not what this community is about. We are a
growing community. Thank God for communities like Midas Touched, like
our political beatdown, like Maya Kulpa, like your legal af
to myself's worth. I really say this, and not because
I'm so proud to be your friend and too proud
to be a part of this network, but more because what.
Speaker 3: It does is it gives the rest of you the
ability to have a community where we can share things
that will need to be done to ensure that our
democratic republic continues.
Speaker 2: It's why when Ben is always saying, hey, join us
on the Patreon where we have one on one conversations
because there might be something on your mind that we're
not actually bringing up and you get the chance to
ask us questions that are important to you. But this
political beatdown and Midas in all of its properties, this
is a place where if the guardrails start to fall,
it's political beatdown, it's Midas Touch network, it's all of
it that is going to help to rebuild the guardrails,
to ensure our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and future generations
to come that it withstands. Well.
Speaker 1: Look it seems obvious, right, and I appreciate that. Cohen,
and you're a major part of this community. You're a
leader in this community. It seems obvious that Donald Trump
is going to do whatever he can to try to
break the ultimate contract. You know, Donald Trump is a
breaker of contracts. That's what he's done his whole life.
He enters into things and he rips it apart, or
he breaks down things that existed.
Speaker 2: That's what he's done.
Speaker 1: The Constitution is a contract between government and we the people.
And one of the things that Donald Trump obviously wants
to do is he wants to destroy that contract that's
been meticulously crafted and has its flaws and its straints.
Of course, he doesn't want that to exist. What you're saying, Cohen,
I believe is that the founders vested power in all
of these different sources to deal with this.
Speaker 2: Well, imagine, just imagine for a quick second, then that
the Senate doesn't protect their power, their right, there will
be no Senate. That's the whole thing. So, whether they're
doing it within which to uphold the Constitution, or whether
they're doing it because it's right for all of us,
I can't tell you that it is or it's not.
What I can tell you is that they enjoyed their
own power and this is one of the powers that
they have. If they relinquish it to an individual who
sees himself as great than the chief executive, then they
have no power and they have no use, and then
therefore their position is no longer necessary. So they're doing
it for their own salvation.
Speaker 1: And also what's obvious is that people are pissed right
now generally and with the being pissed at the fact
that they're such great disparities in wealth between the billionaires
and everybody else. How the one percent, and specifically the
point zero one percent has amassed all of the wealth
and they viewed it as a zero sum game against
everybody else. It's not just enough that the billionaires have
three Gulf Stream six jets, it's got to be fifteen.
It's not enough that they've got three fifteen thousand square
foot mansions, it's got to be ten of them. And
then when they have that, they need twenty of them.
And then when they have that, they then need to
take away people's health care. They need to validate their
billionaire status not just about going in their life and
being happy. But it almost like he's in the suffering
of others, like they want to see other people. That's
why I'll pause it to you in a second.
Speaker 2: Though. It's funny because what you're saying it's so comparaive.
We need to sort of show, like what took place
in Syria, the people, we have the power. They may
think that they have the power. We are the mass,
We are the ninety nine percent of this country. Look
at what happened in Syria. The same thing could happen
here too.
Speaker 1: Look at what's happening in Georgia where there is a
pro democracy movement. And remember Trump didn't get a mandate.
There was tens of millions of people who did not
vote this election, and Trump got under fifty percent of
the vote and ended up being a very close election.
And so when Trump is behaving the way he is
during this transition, and you saw him on Meet the Press,
he was asked, can you guarantee the people that with
your tariffs, prices are not going to go up? What
did Donald Trump say, I'm not going to guarantee anything. Huh,
because I'm pretty sure during the campaign, accordion hands was
guaranteeing every single thing. He was then asked about healthcare, Yes,
you want to replace Obamacare, you want to replace the
Affordable Care Act. What's your plan? Donald Trump's response, I
don't have one. I have the concepts, though, and we're
working on the concepts of a plan. You still don't
have a plan, seriously, and so the people are seeing that,
and you combine with the fact that on day one
Donald Trump's promises are not going to happen. We see
Vladimir Putin flexing already and saying that the only way
there's going to be a day one deal is if
you give Vladimir Putin and Russia everything that Vladimir and
Putin and Russia wants, which is basically a surrender by
Ukraine and Ukraine saying we're not going to.
Speaker 2: Deal with that.
Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about egg prices right well. H five and
one is on the rise, where one mutation away from
that being transmitted now human to human and going from
its current animal status into a general population. It's been
detected in raw milk, where you have RFK Junior, a
raw milk advocate. He's pro raw milk and wants to
appoint others under him. And so egg prices based on
the status of H five N one egg prices are
going to be up right now gas prices are at
an all time low in the Biden administry, two dollars
and ninety seven cents. When Trump can't deliver that, when
prices go up, when mass deportations start, when these things happen,
Michael Cohen and Donald Trump is saying this. This is
he's been on a manic posting spree. And here's the
latest one that he posted. America is going to start
building monuments to our greatest heroes and heroines again DJT.
So when they start building gold statutes to Donald Trump's
billionaire cronies a la Syria, when those statues are being
pulled down, I'm just saying we the people are going
to be very cognizant of that. And Donald Trump is
pushing those buttons right now. The billionaires are spiking the football,
and the first thing they're going after is not a
I'm a billionaire worth three hundred and five fifty billion dollars.
My workers are not even making a living wage. There's
still a minimum wage. Maybe we should address that. What
do they go after first?
Speaker 2: Cohen?
Speaker 1: Your healthcare, your social security, your medicare you know almost
any people rely on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm okay with you know, doing a way with
the Affordable Care Act. So long as you have something
that is better, you know, they don't take into consideration
the fact that there's like thirty million Americans that have
insurance thanks to the Affordable Care Act, thanks to Obamacare.
It's very easy to say, I'm just gonna kill it.
I'm going to starve the ACA right out and get
rid of it altogether, and I'm going to replace it
with something better. Okay, sounds perfect to me. I'm all
in on that, as long as every America who wants
insurance can get health insurance. In fact, every American should
have health coverage and health insurance and affordable health insurance.
Here's the problem. Here's the problem. When asked by Kristen Welker,
do you have a plan? Do you have a policy?
We have a concept of a policy. I want to
put this into perspective. Then join me for this first
sec I want to put this into perspective because I
really want to see your the look on your face.
You just had a gorgeous baby girl, right, Imagine hypothetically
you don't have health coverage, when do you deliver the child?
By the way, why did your wife end up getting
the you know, the healthcare to ensure an easy pregnancy. Well,
imagine you go into the obgyns. So you go to
the hospital in order to give birth to this child,
and you say, I don't have the money to pay you,
but I have the concept of the money. You think
you're gonna get a room. You think you're gonna get
an OPGUI into deliver or an anesthesiologist. You think you're
gonna get any sort of assistance at all. And the
answer is no, it's comically foolish. It's comically foolish. And
somebody who just went through the whole scenario, what's the
alternative if you don't have health coverage? And that's why
when you talk about a concept of a policy, it
just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: Look, one of the things that government should do is
provide some basic quality of life's stuff for people to
ensure they enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
For Republicans, government is a tool to provide social welfare
to the wealthiest, to rig the system for the wealthiest,
and to not ensure and to not look after people
like at a basic level, there is a function for government. Sure,
there's waste, there are programs that aren't implemented the right way.
There are well intentioned programs, for example, to help people
who are not housed find housing, where it turns out
that you allocate two or three billion dollars for a
program and it goes to all of these businesses, or
it does, it doesn't get used the right way, and
then it doesn't solve the problem. And we can look
at that and go, this was a well intentioned program,
but now you've raised our taxes and you've done nothing.
In fact, you've made the problem worse. So we can
look at it as intelligent people and say you need
to fix it, or we should not have these people
as elected officials who screwed up the program. Ultimately, that's
an intelligent adult conversation to have the purpose of government
should not be as MAGA wants it to be a
tool to take away the freedoms of people, but to
only enshrine a subset of benefits for a vaulted class
of individuals that support a ruling class. And the arc
of our history has always been moving in the direction
of trying to fix problems. The reason that you have
the Affordable Care Act is because before it, people could
be denied care for pre existing conditions. So tens of
millions of people died, died because they had a pre
existing condition and they could not afford surgery, so they
ended up dead. And so the Affordable Care Act came
into place to say, Okay, we need to stop that.
Can you argue that there are inefficiencies in the Affordable
Care Act, that there are parts of the program that
are wasteful potentially that could be fixed, and all of
these things. Sure, sure, but it's a clearly better system
than when people were dying. And I know people, lots
of people who are part of this community who, but
for the safety net of the Affordable Care Act, could
be dead.
Speaker 2: And he wants to knock off Snap, he wants to
knock off via Health. You know, if there's anything that
really got to me more than any of this stuff
is the fact that we ask people to serve in
our military to protect our valuable constitution, to protect our freedoms,
our safety, our security as the United States of America.
And then when they come back, and they come back,
many of them with physical injuries, they come back with
emotional scars. We're asking them to put their lives on
the line so that we can have freedom and the
freedom that we can pass down to our children and
future generations. And the least we can do is support
them in their time of need. One hundred and nineteen
billion dollars is expected to be cut. That is the
budget of the VA Health. I am so appalled by
the notion that anybody forget about whether they do it
or not, the fact you could even bring that up,
The fact that they can talk about, you know, doing
away with this, and they keep talking about privatization of it.
That's never gonna work. That just doesn't work, especially once
again when all you have is the concept of a plan.
This is not this is not right. You can't ask
somebody to protect you and then once again throw that
individual under the bus. But it's not just one individual,
you know. We still have two veterans a day taking
their own lives, and nobody has figured out a way
how to stop this. Really, do you know what one
hundred and nineteen billion dollars can do. We can take
areas upstate New York. We could take areas in California,
we could take areas in Texas, we can take areas
in any any state, and we could build magnificent homes,
three bedroom, three bathrooms, kitchens, dining room, living room, the
whole bit. You could build a modular home, beautiful, the
setup with washers and dryers. Give them an address for
what two hundred and fifty three hundred thousand dollars per person?
You know how much? One hundred and nineteen billion dollars
when you start really looking at Give them a place
to call their own, a place so that they can
spend time with family and friends and all that. But no, no,
let's just cut all of that shit. Let's offer them
no proper healthcare. So it's only two veterans a day
committing suicide. No, this is so wrong. It's so wrong.
And look, many of them are coming back with these
emotional scars. The PTSD. Trust me, I know about PTSD.
It's a bitch. And if God knows it, I mean,
I'm fortunate. I have a very close knit and a
very tight family. What if you don't, what if you
feel all alone? No veterans should ever feel alone. They
sacrifice themselves for us, as far as I'm concerned, Like
this community. They have a community of brothers and sisters
that make up our military. Nobody should be alone. They
shouldn't be suffering, not physically, not mentally. And I'm so
angry when I start seeing, you know, things like veterans
for Trump, this is unacceptable. Of all the things that
he's saying, this to me is the most unacceptable, because
these people protect us, they protect our democracy and our
constitutional rights, and we're just ignoring them as if they
don't exist or that they're not relevant. It's so we
ask him to do something. It's our obligation to take
care of them.
Speaker 1: So what Trump and the magas do, though, is knowing
that there is these massive class disparities that exist, and
knowing that they're the ones. The billionaires are the ones,
and the deca millionaires and their policies generationally are the
ones responsible for the suffering that exists. So what do
you do strategically, though, when you're the one causing the suffering,
when it's your plans and policies doing that. What's your
strategy to get people not to think that you create
the culture wars? And that's why they talk about penises
and vaginas all day and the trans this and trans
people that, and we got to look in the bathrooms
and make sure they're coming in the bathrooms.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: A San Jose State volleyball player is a trans woman
on the on the San Jose volleyball team. Can we
should be outraged by it? They push these boogeymen and
in addition to migrants that they'll blame for that, they're
eating your cats and dogs. The migrants are the ones
in the hospitals. You're not getting good healthcare because of
the migrants, they argue, not because the healthcare companies are
denying coverage or the Trumpers policies are the ones taking
away your good health care and that they want to
take away all of your benefits. They go, it's the
migrants fault. They're doing it, when in fact, the migrants
are contributing to the economy in significant ways. So that's
their plan and plot. And then what do they do
as well? It's always projection, right, So magas then create
the left wing billionaire and part of the George Sorows
stuff is anti Semitic dog whistles Sorows cabal, and they
do the George Soros. But also what they want to
do in augmenting a sorrows type personality is Trump, who's
a billionaire. Elon Musk. Who's the richest person. They want
people to say, Aha, it's the liberal billionaire George Sorow's
people who are out there screwing you. And what Trump
and Maga have done a nefariously good job at doing
is the blame game, pointing the finger, blame these people,
Blame these people. Oh, stoke culture wars, and Democrats are
often like, look, we need to turn the page, we
need to move forward, we need to build where And
don't get me wrong, Democrats point the finger at Trump
a lot. Trump is Trump that. But also you have
to be clear that this is a concerted effort by
the billionaire class embodied in the Republicans. And now it's
pretty clear, it's pretty visible right where the battle lines
are drawn, because the Republican billionaires who put hundreds of
millions of dollars to get Trump elected, they're spiking the football,
they're doing interviews, they're saying, Oh, it's going to be
so good right now, We're going to take away health care,
no more regulations for us. We think these are great
times and people are pissed, and so Democrats need to
tap into that to do it through the right means
legislation and peacefully. But Democrats need to tap into there's
rage right now, there's rage on the streets right and you.
Speaker 2: Know what we need to do, Ben, We need we
need to ensure that the proper message, the proper voices
are heard. We're not getting it out of the DNC.
And you know, you start listening to who might take
over for Jamie Harrison? Who listen? Jamie Harrison may be
an awfully nice guy, but who to hell wants somebody
who's a nice guy. Like We've got a bunch of maga,
fucking trolls that are just you know, constantly saying nasty
shit about me, about Ben, about this station and so on.
Even here right now with us, nobody cares. Nobody cares
about them the same Wait, nobody cares if Jamie Harrison
is a good guy or a bad guy. I'm sure
he's a wonderful friend. He's probably a great guy to
hang out with. But here's the interesting thing, I don't care.
I want a proper message, one that is going to
counter the opposite side, the Republican message. Where it's so simple,
it's so simple. If you are a veteran, this is
what you are going to lose. If you are female,
this is what you have already lost. If you are union,
this is what especially steel workers' union, this is what
you are going to lose with the tariffs. If you
are you know, a carpenter's union, you are going to
lose work because there will be no wood. There's not
gonna the cost on wood is going to go up
one hundred and twenty five hundred and seventy five percent,
which means less construction. So you're not going to be
having jobs after job after job. I mean, you're not
going to have a constant pay. I mean, these are
the things that you have to hammer over and over
and over again. You see, then you're one hundred percent correct,
one hundred percent correct. The billionaire class, they don't understand
what it means to pay ten dollars for a piece
of wood or a hundred. It doesn't matter. They cannot
spend their money in one hundred lifetimes, plain and simple.
So if the house costs ten million to build or
thirty million to build, it doesn't matter to them. It's
a rounding error. Elon Musk, that's just the interest from
one day. He doesn't give a shit. You see, what's
his name, just bought a boat three hundred and eighty
five footter it's over there getting a second paint coat
so that you could see it from ten thousand miles away.
I mean, seriously, seriously, you think you need a three
hundred and eighty five foot yacht when you have veterans
who are living on the street. Come on, man, what
better than this? And here's the.
Speaker 1: Thing, Cohen, it's not just a winning message what you
and I are talking about. It's also the right thing
and the truth. It's not propaganda, it's actually what's happening
and right now from democrats, it's crickets. It's crickets. You
don't hear. You don't hear. The winning issue is staring
them in the face. It's what the people want to
hear about. It's obvious. People are pissed that billionaires and
deca millionaires are screwing them and gloating about it and
spiking a football in their freaking faces. People are angry
when they are struggling to afford basic living while other
people are gloating over all of the benefits that the
government is actually handing them, and the bailouts and all
of the stuff that the billionaires always get that's happening
because of policies that started with Ronald Reagan and even
before that. But these are Republican driven agendas to screw
over the people and distract them with culture wars. So
I'm just saying to democratic leaders or people who want
to be leaders in this space in general, and we
will do our part here on the Midas Touch Network
to use our pulpit to make sure we are being
very clear and concise and what we're saying, and what
we're saying is is that it is a Republican led
effort to hoist up an oligarchy, a billionaire oligarchy class
to screw the people. And we need to look people
in the eyes and we need to say to them,
we care about you, We're looking after you, we're fighting
for you. We understand that you are struggling paycheck to paycheck,
and we want you to understand that it's coming from
the people who have golden toilet bowls and golden statutes,
who are lying to you and grifting off of you.
And we want to do our part to help you
and enact policies that will benefit you. We hear your pain.
We understand that prices are feel the pain you. We're
in the same boat as you, and we want and
we want to fight for you, and we're gonna fight.
Speaker 2: You just need it.
Speaker 1: You need to say it to the You need to
reach out to the people. You need to reach out,
and Trump does that but lying and conning people and
grifting and manipulating and defrauding. Anyway, we'll take our first
quick break of the show. I want to remind everybody
about Michael Cohen's YouTube channel at The Michael Cohen Show.
Make sure you subscribe. They're also patreon dot com slash
Political Beatdown. We'll be hosting another line Political Beatdown zoom
meeting soon where you can ask Michael Cohen and I anything.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Political beat Down. Great ad reads, Michael Cohen,
You should be a professional ad reader. Not bad, all right.
I want to show some of these messages Cohen though,
that Trump's been posting. I have to look at them
over and over and then double confirmed that they're real,
because they are some of the most kind of ludicrous
and embarrassing and just things that would and should be
focused on, not just like, oh, Trump's doing crazy things today,
but this should be front page. I think, you know,
corporate media New York Times calling out how dangerous this
stuff is and not treated like oh, just a crazy
grandpa being crazy again. No, this stuff has real impacts.
Why corporate media is so broken. So here's one of
his posts. It's like manic post post posts. America's going
to start building monuments to our great heroes and heroines again,
d JT this one. I'm saying that Canada will be
a fifty first state and calling Justin Trudeau, the Prime
Minister of Canada, Governor, I mean, just insulting our allies.
Speaker 2: It's really insulting.
Speaker 1: It was a no pleasure to have dinner the other
night with Governor Justin Trudeau of the Great State of Canada.
I look forward to seeing the Governor again soon so
that we may continue our in depth talks on tariffs
and trade, the results of which will be truly spectacular
for all d JT. And again, it's crazy, Ben, this
is crazy talk. It's crazy talk. Look, we have a
lot of Canadian followers here.
Speaker 2: I've been to.
Speaker 1: Canada a bunch of times.
Speaker 2: My family lives in Canada. Half my family, my father
grew up in Canada, went to University of Toronto, came
to America to teach head and neck greekan destructive surgery.
My five cousins, my first cousins, lived there, and uncles
except two passed away, you know, unfortunately my aunts and uncles.
But my family lives there, all nieces and grand nieces.
And so this is not a joke. It's a it's
a sovereign nation. He's talking about them like if there's
some sort of an extension by the way you remember
I said it, while Poot didn't make start taking Ukraine
and taking Poland and then going back after Grusnia, after
Georgia and so on. In China goes after Taiwan. Why
would Trump not go after Mexico and Canada right start
making all borders the you know, the sea and making
it the coastline.
Speaker 1: This is going to your point there. The This is
how the events unfolded, right. So you had Donald Trump
was invited to France by President Macron in France to
be there for the opening of the Notre Dame Cathedral,
which was previously burnt down. President Macron outwitted Donald Trump,
entice Trump to go there with the big cathedral trappings,
and so Trump shows up in France. Then Macron brings
in Zelensky there as well, gets a photo op with
Trump and Zelensky at the cathedral, sending a message to
Vladimir Putin. While Putin is facing some humiliations internationally, his
big ally in Syria, Bashar al Assad's overthrown, the Romanian
elections were overturned or stop based on Russian interference there,
the pro democracy protests in Georgia, Russia's losing major military
bases in Syria, most likely as a result of Russian
influence with Bashar al Assad leaving. So mcron in France
brilliantly sends that message to Putin. So what happens in return?
I think Donald Trump felt embarrassed. Also, Trump did that
really like weird handshake with President mccran and mccron squeezed
the shit out of Trump's hand back to did you
notice like Trump's face grimacing and our idiotic corporate media
here was like Donald Trump asserts his dominance over France
with power handshake. First off, that's not even what it was.
Macron got the better of the handshake. But how ridiculous
that you as American media are focusing on the handshake.
It was the most ridiculous. If anyone's ever shaken your
hand like that, they're usually like mentally ill or have
serious like I'm never It's just the most bizarre thing ever.
So Trump felt humiliated. So what does he do? He
starts like defaming a first lady, doctor Jill Biden, and
misappropriating her name, image and likeness, and like selling fragrans
and colowns with doctor Jill Biden's picture on it and
saying even your enemies can't resist my cologne. I mean disgusting.
I did a whole hot take. How that's a violation
of privacy rights. And she consume him if she wants to.
But then he has victor Orbon of Hungary. Go travel tomorrow,
a Lago, Putin's emissary, right, goes tomorrow a Lago meets
with Musk and Donald Trump. And then Trump starts sending
these messages because Canada is like, all right, if Trump's
gonna do this stuff, we're gonna have to do retaliatory tariffs.
So then Trump just starts doing erratic post after erratic
post in response to the developments in France. To me,
that's the context also within which this is a cohen.
He also posted this. By the way, he goes, any person,
this is real, Like I was like, is this a
real thing? He post this. Trump writes, any person or
company investing one billion dollars or more in the United
States of America will receive fully expedited approvals and permits, including,
but in no way limited to, all environmental approvals. Get
ready to rock. And then some Twitter account Dogie designer
writes bullish on America, and then Elon Musk goes, this
is awesome. Rocket Ship America. This is awesome that anybody
who has a billion dollars can literally people.
Speaker 2: Have a billion dollars within which to create some sort
of you know, some sort of a business. Yeah, that's great.
You know who has the billion dollars? The top ten
people that he's actually putting into office in his cabinet
or around the cabinet, meaning Elon Musk or Linda McMahon
or Lutnik or you know, that's what they're all doing.
It's it's basically in front of our faces, right under
our noses. They are stealing. They are doing to America
what the Robert Barons did going back into the seventeen hundreds.
That's what they're doing right under our noses. And these
magadopes are just sitting there and they think that somewhere
along the line, some of the scraps from long Shank's
table is going to fall onto theirs. So it's so foolish.
I don't understand what we're doing anymore. I don't understand
what we're thinking.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing with these billionaires who party at mar Lago.
You realize that at some point, if you kill off people,
then you don't have people to even sell things to.
You realize, when you destroy the lives of consumers, they
can't buy your stuff. So you want to do things
that are going to give people cancer and take away
their healthcare, and take them off important social safety nets
that they paid into, and mock people. What do you
think that's going to do to your company?
Speaker 2: But what they rely on, and I'm so sorry they're
not thinking that way. They're not thinking about selling another
Tesla or you know, or running another hedge fund that's
worth you know, three quarters of you know, of a
trillion dollars. That's not what they're thinking. What they're what
they're basically doing. They're chopped in up our country into
little pieces, and you know, it will become the halves
and the have nots. The problem for the halves is
there's what eight hundred billionaires in America right now, starting
with one billion, going up to three hundred and twenty billion.
Imagine the top three billionaires have more money than all
the other billionaires combined. Imagine that, right. So when you
start talking to when Elon Musk wants to start talking
about what is good for you, what you need, how
does he know it's no different if I say to you,
I mean, we've all read about the dinosaurs that roam
the earth. You know what it's like to be a dinosaur.
The answer, of course, is no, you can't understand what
it's like to be a dinosaur any more than Elon
Musk could understand what any one of us are going
through on a day by day basis. But I will
tell you, I will tell you, knowing Trump as well
as I do, that relationship is not going to be
long lived, just not. And what's happening is they're all
jockeying for certain power, and just as soon as we
the people turn around and don't allow it to take place,
whether it'll be the same that put a stop to it,
or whether it'll just be a massive revolution like what
just took place in Syria, there will come a point
in time he will have to blame somebody. He'll have
to blame somebody, and who will he blame? Everyone other
than himself, specifically somebody like Elon Muskin vivik Rumswami. Because
the two things or the three things that they are
doing are right there at the front, right at the
helm of all of the things that many of you
are nervous about that keeps you up at night.
Speaker 1: You know when I think that one of our responsibilities
here as well is also reflecting on the power of
peaceful protests, mass peaceful protests and mass peaceful demonstrations and
making it clear that the ends can be achieved through
peaceful means. As people are sick and tired of what
Trump is doing, what he's already what his policies are
already happening before it's even day one. I mean he
posted this Michael Cohen as well. Just now he goes Bidenomics,
and let's just pause there. Bidenomics was all about bottom up,
middle out, how do you help workers even the playing
field and billionaires pay their fair share. That's all biden
Economics is, right, That's what it was. And it's not
overnight that you can enact policies where Republicans have been
pushing this agenda for forty years, fifty years. Biden's policies
were on target for where the American people were. The
messaging wasn't, but his views were on target and his
attempt at messaging it and what his policies actually did.
But here's Trump's post Bidenomics. You pay taxes. I send
it to Ukraine, they send it back to Hunter. Hunter
gives it to me. Pardon Hunter, how Bidenomics works. So
here's the thing, though, Cohen.
Speaker 2: A terrible terrible thing for Trump to be saying. It's
a terrible terrible thing. First of all, none of it
is true. But go ahead, what were you going to say, Ben?
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say, though, is is that you
have Trump Maga with their cannonballs of dis info over
and over and over non stop. This stuff right that
gets put on Fox. They spread that.
Speaker 2: Now again.
Speaker 1: I ask, don't get me wrong. You know, I thought,
you know, President Biden's speech at the Brookings Institution today
was a good speech. I think when you know, some
Democrats show up on and do the Sunday shows, okay,
but where is Where is that fighter who doesn't just
show up on an old school platform that nobody watches,
just out there using the toolkit of modern day marketing
and advertising and social media and saying that these things
by Trump are outrageous and saying, oh the golden toilet
bowl boy, who's out there in mar A Lago with
the richest man in the world laughing in your freaking faces,
has something to say, sit down and shut up gold
toilet bowl boy. Let's actually focus on what matters to be,
like just where where are the people?
Speaker 2: But say whatever you want, say whatever you want about Trump.
He doesn't read, he does this, he does that. Think
about that post that he just put up. Each and
every one of us have to acknowledge that that's not
what Bidenomics is not by a long shot. It's misinformation.
It's disinformation, it's malinformation. We could easily turn it to
trump genomics. Put that back up for one second, and
you turn around and you say, you pay taxes, Yeah,
we pay taxes, all right. I put my daughter in
law in charge of the RNC, within which to collect
money to use for my legal fees. I'm now going
to make her thanks to round sanctimonious sen because I
took out Marco Rubio, gave him a big spot. Lord
knows how long he's going to ultimately last. I say
maybe at best six Scaramuci's all right, then you turn
around and you have they just you could take that down.
They just went ahead. The Trump organization just inked two
more deals with Saudi Arabia for branding and so on.
I mean, let's let's just be fair here, all right,
and let's turn around and say, you may not think
that Biden was the right guy to take us into
the next four years based upon his age and so on.
I'll acknowledge that. I'll even accept that. But we're going
to acknowledge and accept somebody that wants to completely whitewash
the fact that we have the best economy in the
world by two and a half times. The stock market
is at an all time I'm high and has been
even before the election, right because Trump is saying that
the stock market's only up because he won and big
business is coming back, and that's what's causing the stock
market increase. And then you have unemployment at a loan
at an all time low, you have a minority income
you know, rise at the greatest of all time in
US history. I mean, come on serious, You can go
on and on, and this is this is what you
want to do. You want to whitewash and rewrite history
to say that Biden and the economy are no good stop.
Where are the Democrats? Where is Jamie Harrison? Why are
they not putting out ads? Why is Joe Biden himself
not sitting right now? As the president of the United States.
If I was the president the same way I'm talking
to each and every one of you every Tuesday and
every third day at this hour, I would do the
same thing as president. My fellow Americans, there's so much
bullshit going on right now, by the Republican Party, by
my adversary, by the President elect. However you want to
talk about it, and whenever you want to talk about it,
none of that is true. And I want to walk
you through one aspect of the misinformation, the whitewashing of information.
Let's just talk about unemployment right now. The unemployment level
is at an all time low for at least the
last one hundred years. And let me just give you
some recent data. This is the same data, the same organization,
the same department that did it under the Trump administration,
did it under the Obama administration, did it under the
Bush administration, and all the way for god knows how
many hundreds of years. They're the ones that tell you
what the unemployment rate is. Not me, I don't make
it up, My people don't make it blah blah blah
blah blah. Go there, use the power of the office,
show the vision of a man sitting behind the Lincoln
desk put your put your your your meat into this thing,
and turn around and say you cannot you cannot accept
this lie and allow the lie to continue to be
regurgitated over and over and over until ultimately the lie
becomes the truth. And that truth, which is the scheme
and the plan of how Stalin used to do it,
is unacceptable here in the United States of America. Blah
blah blah blah blah. That's what they need to do.
That's exactly. Two finger salute, sir. Two finger salute has
to I would say, has to go to the leaders
of DOJI right, Department of Government Efficiency, which I don't
even know what the hell they are. Are they appro
Are they an agency? Now? I have no idea. It
has to go to Elon Muskin Vivik Ramaswami. These two,
these two assholes are just out there every single day
running around there. You go, running around the Capitol literally
bullying everybody. We want this, we want that, We're gonna
do this. He's got his kid on his shoulders having
a great time. Daddy's gonna make America great again. Seriously, no,
I mean, seriously, do you not realize how many. Actually
it's one finger for one, the other finger for the other.
This is not a joke. This is just not a joke.
There's lives that are at stay risk here. There's people's
ability to eat and to pay rent and to have
healthcare and so on, and that's on the line. This
isn't this is not a joke. I know that they're
having fun playing, you know, a role here, but there's
a lot of lives on And that's why again I'm
gonna say this one last time before we end up
closing out this episode. That's why this community, why the
Minus Touch network, political beatdown, my Maya Kulpa podcasts, my
YouTube channel, Legal af the my Cellos brothers. It is
why this community is so so so important. It's so
important because we as the community cannot allow this thing
to continue. We cannot just sit back, do nothing, say nothing,
and then one day wake up and say, how the
hell did this shit happen? All right, not going to
happen on our watch. So to Vivik and to Elon, honestly, guys,
fuck you both.
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to one of
the brigaders, Ron Gravell, who I think gave a good
slogan that we should use. He says, how Trumpanomics works.
I rip you off? Did you think there was a
part two? Simple message? Simple message, you can meme it,
label it trump Bonomics. I rip you off? Did you
think there was a part two? And then show in
the image on the back all of the ways Trump
is ripping you off, Like, visualize, you know, the workers
being screwed in the back, Visualize Donald Trump and Saudi
Arabia getting all of this money. Show that imagery, and
you know there are lots of people like, are you
really live live you guys, Yes, we're really live live.
And read your comments also, and I thought that was
a I thought that was a good one. We're on
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