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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Thompson Here, it is Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels kind of like almost tropical ot It's got

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<v Speaker 3>like a humidity to it. The mugginess is something that

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<v Speaker 3>I remark on only because we're not super used to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a big day all across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of sports going on today, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is Pride Day. And even if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>participating in Pride activities, you are affected by Pride activities

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<v Speaker 3>because they've blocked off a bunch of streets in West Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 3>streets in LA and that's going on through the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll keep you posted on all the different ways

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<v Speaker 3>in which you can get from here to there because

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<v Speaker 3>they have been modified because of the huge parades and

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<v Speaker 3>the huge events around Pride going on all around the city.

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<v Speaker 3>I just got back from Alaska, and I will tell

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<v Speaker 3>you that it is something you already know, probably a

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<v Speaker 3>terrific place to visit. I mean, even if you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>visited there, you've seen pictures. You've seen pictures of the whales,

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<v Speaker 3>the eagles, the glaciers. It's just a terrific thing to

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<v Speaker 3>put on your list, and to whatever extent you can

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<v Speaker 3>adventure into the various stops along the way. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the ways in which you can see Alaska,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, is on a cruise ship and some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of boating vessel can get you from here to there,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's just hard to of course, very hard to

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<v Speaker 3>drive it, and flying it can be a challenge as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So the nice thing is that when you go out

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<v Speaker 3>on any of these excursions, which we did, you experience

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<v Speaker 3>some of this amazing wondrous wildlife and I I include

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<v Speaker 3>the trees and the fauna and all of that. You

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<v Speaker 3>walk through it, and it's just that the areas in

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<v Speaker 3>which all of these different things thrive, it's just green

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<v Speaker 3>and changing, and particularly now as the snows and ice

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<v Speaker 3>fields melt away and retreat, you are left with a

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<v Speaker 3>different window on nature. And now you have more in

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<v Speaker 3>the way of whales and eagles and bears and salmon

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<v Speaker 3>because the salmon run now, of course, with the melting

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<v Speaker 3>of the snow and rivers and streams becoming elevated, becoming

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<v Speaker 3>fed by all of that, the salmon uses those increasing

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<v Speaker 3>waterways to swim and spawn, and you end up with

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<v Speaker 3>all of the predators who depend on the salmon for survival.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the bears, those are the eagles, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm just saying, the whole place comes to life,

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<v Speaker 3>and I recommend it for all Americans. It's crazy way

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<v Speaker 3>we ended up in Alaska, you know, I mean, just

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about Americans owning Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Russian.

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<v Speaker 3>The Russians owned Alaska, as you know, and they literally

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<v Speaker 3>pounded the only resource they felt Alaska was good for,

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<v Speaker 3>which was sea otters. They pounded that out of Alaska.

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<v Speaker 3>They literally hunted every last sea otter in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's an amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the thing that we've done as humans, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>across any number of species. But the Russians did it

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<v Speaker 3>when they had Alaska as part of Russia. They were

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<v Speaker 3>hunting the seattters for pelts. I mean, that was the

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<v Speaker 3>big thing. You know, you saw those guys in those

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<v Speaker 3>old pictures. They're walking around with shoulders full of you know, fur,

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<v Speaker 3>of dead animals who were full of Furrussians literally hunted

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<v Speaker 3>sea otters to extinction. There were no more in Alaska,

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<v Speaker 3>effectively none. So the Russians all of a sudden felt like,

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<v Speaker 3>well we don't see a lot more here.

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<v Speaker 2>Really that was their position.

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<v Speaker 3>It was, I don't know, we got like the best

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<v Speaker 3>thing here that you can get. And so when the

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<v Speaker 3>Americans came along, the offer on the table looked good

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<v Speaker 3>to the Russians, and they sold Alaska this is you're

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<v Speaker 3>probably aware, for seven million bucks. So we see the Americans,

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<v Speaker 3>we acquire Alaska for seven million dollars, and what do

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<v Speaker 3>we find So soon after that sale, what do we

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<v Speaker 3>find there? Gold and gold, minerals, oil, all of that,

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<v Speaker 3>not to mention timber, all of it has been exploited

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<v Speaker 3>through the years, and you've seen an increase and a

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<v Speaker 3>decrease in these minor towns across Alaska. They're still there,

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of them are set up for tourists, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's still a sense of what existed. And so

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<v Speaker 3>the Alaskan history, and I'm leaving out the Native peoples,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the native people. They still are there in Alaska,

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<v Speaker 3>albeit having been bumped out by a lot of development

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<v Speaker 3>by you know, essentially bumped out all the way by

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of development.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are still.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I would call it monuments to the Native peoples,

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<v Speaker 3>and they participate in the maintaining and also the increasing

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<v Speaker 3>of the awareness of the Native people's history. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you go there as a tourist, you see this everywhere

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<v Speaker 3>and it's very much a part of the landscape of Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I recommend it.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a great, great time and as I say,

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<v Speaker 3>if you have it in you to you know, jumping

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<v Speaker 3>rubber raft, which is what we did, and there were

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<v Speaker 3>just six of us in this raft and we went.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a very cold day, but wow, what a

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<v Speaker 3>wondrous experience to be out there in it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And as I say, it's only getting in the next

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<v Speaker 3>month or so, even more crowded with wildlife because of

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<v Speaker 3>the salmon. So I got back then from Alaska, just

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<v Speaker 3>got back and I attended the birthday party. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is something maybe you can relate to. I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when I relate a story to you, I always think

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<v Speaker 3>we can somebody else relate to this, Like it's not

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<v Speaker 3>I hope it's not too you know, self indulgent to

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<v Speaker 3>relate this story, but maybe you'll be able to relate

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<v Speaker 3>to this. I went to this seventieth birthday party of

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<v Speaker 3>a dear friend of mine, very talented, a comic named

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Slayton. So I was. I was in Beverly Hills

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<v Speaker 3>getting my hair darkened for it. You know, they get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of what the gray hair. There's not a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of gray hair. Everybody, Okay, settle down, but it's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. Although the colorist is I guess she's called.

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<v Speaker 3>Said to me, Mark, would you like a maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>leave a little bit of gray in? Would you like

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<v Speaker 3>us to do that just to you can have it?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I never want to hear you say that

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<v Speaker 3>ever again. If it's an open casket at my funeral,

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to make sure the hair is dark.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be and I am the aging guy

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<v Speaker 3>with the hair that's too dark for him. Anyway, that

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<v Speaker 3>was in Beverly Hills. Now the way back to the car,

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<v Speaker 3>I pass this store called Club Monaco. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>one of these bougie stores that's on the corner, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say it like Brighton and Beverly. And in

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<v Speaker 3>the window is a suit, kind of a linen suit.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought I can wear this suit to Bobby's birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>So I go in. I try the suit on and

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<v Speaker 3>it really looks good, you know, and I don't normally

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not out there buying suits all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this is like I thought.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, I want to try to look good seventieth

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<v Speaker 3>birthday sit down dinner. I mean, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 3>do the whole thing quickly. I'm not big into trying

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<v Speaker 3>on clothes. I just don't like the whole thing. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't not a good shopper that way. Just let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it fit great, Let's buy it. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>said to the guy, please cut off all of the

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<v Speaker 3>tags and stuff because I'm gonna wear it to this

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<v Speaker 3>dinner tonight. And he said, of course, I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 3>off the the store detector thing. I said, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean all the tags please. He said, okay. So

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't pay any attention to it. He puts the

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<v Speaker 3>thing in the bag. And you know where this is coming.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that where this whole thing is ending up.

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<v Speaker 3>I go to the event. I put on the jacket

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<v Speaker 3>to the suit, which I have yet to really put on.

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<v Speaker 3>It was hanging on a hanger in the car. And

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing I see on the back of the

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<v Speaker 3>jacket is what the store detection device, the thing you

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<v Speaker 3>can't get off unless you've got you know, the store

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<v Speaker 3>detection device remover machine.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's there, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>I see that there are other things that he's left on.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the guy didn't The only thing I asked

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<v Speaker 3>him to do was take these things off. So I

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<v Speaker 3>can take off the other stuff before I walk into

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<v Speaker 3>the party. But I can't take off this store detection

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<v Speaker 3>machine thing, you know what I'm talking about, the thing

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<v Speaker 3>that they leave a fixed to every item so that

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<v Speaker 3>when people walk off, it sets off the alarm. So

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm really you know, I'm doing that thing where

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not letting people see like the back of my jacket,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's so embarrassing. And I vow to go back

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<v Speaker 3>the next day and plan and I'm I'm really angry

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<v Speaker 3>about this, but I'm I'm not a shower, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a you know, it's I'm kind of a but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm steaming on the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>I go back and the guy isn't there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a different guy, and I said, Hi, I was

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<v Speaker 3>there yesterday and I bought this suit, and I'm telling

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<v Speaker 3>him the whole story, and he says, wow, I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>sorry to hear that. I can see, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>can see that he's left it on there, let me

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<v Speaker 3>take it off for you, and I said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate if you're taking it off for me now. But

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<v Speaker 3>the event I was talking about, and I indicated to

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<v Speaker 3>the salesperson that I was going to be going to

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<v Speaker 3>that event happened last night and it was very embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wondered if you can make some kind of adjustment,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean store credit or something. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 3>really you know And I said, it just like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, I can see where it would frustrate you.

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<v Speaker 3>We just don't do that. We don't do any kind

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<v Speaker 3>of store credit. I said, really, I mean, you know this,

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<v Speaker 3>this seems like a real screw up. Wouldn't you want

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<v Speaker 3>to do something if you're the store to make it right,

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<v Speaker 3>I asked him. He said, yeah, yeah, I'm just not

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<v Speaker 3>We just don't do it. I mean maybe we should,

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<v Speaker 3>but we don't. He said, if you want, I'll let

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<v Speaker 3>you return it, which we also don't do typically, while

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<v Speaker 3>you guys don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do a lot. But I said, well, I like the suit.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel as though you'd want to do something

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of keep me as a customer. He said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. He said, I'll give you an eight

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<v Speaker 3>hundred number, he said, But to be honest, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think they're going to do anything like all right, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was the end of it. So now my debut

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<v Speaker 3>appearance of my new linen suit, complete with the store

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<v Speaker 3>detection device on it, has passed. No store credit, no adjustment.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you can relate to this. Have you been in

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<v Speaker 3>a situation like that where you go go back You're thinking, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a perfectly reasonable thing that I'm asking you

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking you to make this right. Give me a.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty dollars, twenty five dollars, fifty dollars something. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a higher end store. Nothing, it's the new America. It's

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<v Speaker 3>to screw you America. Anyway, It's great to be back.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a little something on Alaska and that one store.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say to you. We have a great show ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>A best selling author, Bottom of the Hour, The Great

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<v Speaker 3>a it's a historical novel. It's set in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Thompson hanging out Sunday after noon. It's a Pride

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<v Speaker 3>Day and their Pride activities all around LA. Mostly who

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of this stuff West Hollywood rich ties

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<v Speaker 3>to the LGBTQ community, of course in West Hollywood. One

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<v Speaker 3>that were taken to the parade. There's nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 3>that except for the fact that a there might be

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<v Speaker 3>But more to the point, as the temperature is kind

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<v Speaker 3>The complaint from the person who sent me the video

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<v Speaker 3>was you can tell these dogs are thirsty, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>But with that one warning that if you're going, please

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<v Speaker 2>And speaking of that, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Even a.

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<v Speaker 3>Video out of Coasta Mesa showing a volunteer at a

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<v Speaker 3>The dog walker is dragging this limp dog on a

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<v Speaker 3>The Coasta Mesa police de barment was reported reportedly contacted

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<v Speaker 3>quote taking immediate action, but the statement goes on, this

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<v Speaker 3>of care that we stand for, and the volunteer apparently

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<v Speaker 3>are controlled by someone who's just left. Stacy Danes about

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<v Speaker 3>a month into her job overseeing the La City animal shelters,

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<v Speaker 3>an employee apparently defied her. In the first month, she

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<v Speaker 3>the face, according to Stacey Danes. Danes thought that the

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<v Speaker 3>five days of leave. Now Mayor Karen Bass hired Stacy

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<v Speaker 3>Danes in June twenty twenty three, promising to make La

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<v Speaker 3>in these overcrowded, dirty kennels. Volunteers have been complaining animals

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<v Speaker 3>she felt powerless to solve these entrenched problems that include

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<v Speaker 3>severe understaffing, employees who mistreat or neglect animals completely. She

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<v Speaker 3>said she was repeatedly told by the personnel department, which

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't fire employees. She clashed with one of the unions

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<v Speaker 3>that represents shelter employees. She even reached out to La

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<v Speaker 3>that just would make your skin crawl more and more,

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<v Speaker 3>even under her watch, as she was there to reform

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing. She's saying, now, we need to tell

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<v Speaker 3>the unfiltered, unvarnished truth about what is happening in the

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<v Speaker 2>This is her speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>After a little more than a year as Animal Services

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<v Speaker 3>So she's saying the series the city just simply does

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<v Speaker 3>not provide enough funding to meet the basic needs of

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<v Speaker 3>the animals in the six shelters that the city runs,

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<v Speaker 3>and there have been real problems with money. Right during

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<v Speaker 3>Karen Bass's first year in office, because of a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of critical reporting from the La Times and others about

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<v Speaker 3>conditions in the shelters, the mayor offered an eighteen percent

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<v Speaker 3>budget increase, less than the fifty six percent increase that

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<v Speaker 3>Animal Services had asked for, But then her budget proposal

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<v Speaker 3>and in passing.

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<v Speaker 2>A budget now.

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<v Speaker 3>With a billion dollar shortfall, Animal Services doesn't get an increase,

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<v Speaker 3>She's held these jobs running shelters in San Jose and

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<v Speaker 3>to the suffering of the animals they witness. A day

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<v Speaker 3>after day, five hundred dogs have to be handled, cleaning kennels,

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<v Speaker 3>lot to do, so she's seeing even abuse of the animals,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's perhaps one of the most disturbing things I

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<v Speaker 3>her employees terrorizing dogs by banging on their kennels or

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<v Speaker 3>spraying them with water to move them back. She told

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<v Speaker 3>employees to stop that behavior, but some said they'd been

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<v Speaker 3>trained to treat the dogs that way. She wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>start a schedule the tract when each task was done

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<v Speaker 3>that had to be done at the shelter, but a

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<v Speaker 3>punish employees and push back on it. And then she

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<v Speaker 3>dropped that proposal because of the opposition from the union.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's gossip and then there's pushback from employees

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<v Speaker 3>supervisors with sexual relationships with subordinates. I mean, it's so

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<v Speaker 3>going on and more and more. You just want to

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<v Speaker 3>and the number of dogs euthanized at city shelters from

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<v Speaker 3>January through September last year went up. Can you guess

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<v Speaker 3>how much it went up? Seventy two percent. Seventy two

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<v Speaker 3>percent more dogs were euthanized at city shelters than with

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<v Speaker 3>the same period the previous years, and the number of

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<v Speaker 3>dogs entering the shelters is going up each year, but

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<v Speaker 3>the number put to death far outpaced the number of

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<v Speaker 3>dogs entering the shelters. There's no euthanasian policy, and they

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<v Speaker 2>But as I say, she has resigned.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a full on five alarm fire in the LA.

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<v Speaker 2>Shelter business.

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<v Speaker 3>So the LA Animal Shelters watch this space will give

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<v Speaker 3>you more as it becomes available, but nothing good is

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<v Speaker 3>happening in that world. When we come back set in

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles. Her latest. She is a best selling author.

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<v Speaker 3>Her latest is called The Great Man. Man is spelled

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<v Speaker 3>m ann. We'll talk about this piece of historical fiction

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<v Speaker 3>set right here in Los Angeles with the author Kira

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<v Speaker 3>Davis Lourie. We'll do it next right here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Thompson here, I'm so excited to have a best

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<v Speaker 3>selling author in the midst here with a book that

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<v Speaker 3>takes place in Los Angeles. It's set against the backdrop

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<v Speaker 3>of Los Angeles. The Library Journal already saying that her

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<v Speaker 3>nuanced and sympathetic characters and stellar writing are nearly as

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<v Speaker 3>brilliant as in The Great Gatsby. Wow it is. It's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty amazing that you got this from Bloomberg. Bloomberg chooses

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<v Speaker 3>your book as one of the ten best books of

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<v Speaker 3>the summer. How about it for Kira Davis LORI and

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<v Speaker 3>The Great Man, which is your new book, Bravo.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Man is spelled m A n N And it's being released.

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<v Speaker 3>I think is it next week that it's released?

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<v Speaker 5>Tenth? Yeah, right around the corner.

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<v Speaker 3>So tell me about where it's set, because in a

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the area is called West Adam Heights and right

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<v Speaker 6>now there's the Ten Freeways right through it, but that

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<v Speaker 5>Always the case.

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<v Speaker 6>So West Adam Heights was Los Angeles' Beverly Hills before

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<v Speaker 5>So all the la aristocracy lived there. And then the

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<v Speaker 6>And as the thirties wore on, people discovered it was

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<v Speaker 6>they had to sell. But the only people who were

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<v Speaker 6>Clark Gable, Lena Horne, Duke Ellington was her entertainment and right,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, so it was extraordinarily Gatsby esque, which is

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<v Speaker 5>That was right here in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently it's amazingly successful, this narrative. So this veteran who

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<v Speaker 3>is your main character, arrives back in nineteen forty five

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles to this area and figuring there'd be a

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<v Speaker 3>fresh start, this affluent neighborhood that you describe, and then

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<v Speaker 3>take us through a little bit of what he encounters.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>So, Charlie Trammel, he is he was in World War

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<v Speaker 6>Two and he's just come back to his home in

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<v Speaker 6>He came back home to his home in Virginia, in

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<v Speaker 6>rural Virginia where his family was sharecroppers. But as what

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<v Speaker 6>just was the case, as with the case in at

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<v Speaker 5>There was a lot of violence and abuse.

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<v Speaker 6>And he decides that's the stock going to work, and

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, yeah, come on out here. Lots of opportunity.

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<v Speaker 6>He goes out and discovers it's not just that she's

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<v Speaker 6>doing okay, she's living the life. Okay, you know, she's

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<v Speaker 6>coming out. She's got diamonds in her ears. She's driving

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<v Speaker 6>like the nice car. You know, she's got clothes that

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<v Speaker 6>when he knew her, I mean she left young, but like.

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<v Speaker 5>She's his cousin.

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<v Speaker 6>This was this was a sharecropping family, so he doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>And he's seeing, you know again movie stars. And one

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<v Speaker 6>movie stars is, like a lot of African Americans of

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<v Speaker 6>that period, there was a lot of mixed feelings about

422
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<v Speaker 6>their black movie stars because they were taking these roles

423
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<v Speaker 6>that were really stereotypic, typical, and frequently demeaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, the servant the exact yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, you know, they were the they were there to

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<v Speaker 6>be subservient and the butther of the joke, you know.

427
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<v Speaker 6>And then he meets these people and they're the they's

428
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<v Speaker 6>so the dichonag between them and the characters they play

429
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<v Speaker 6>is gigantic, right, I mean, as he meets Louise Beaver's

430
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<v Speaker 6>who was a huge star at the time, less known

431
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<v Speaker 6>now by the time, she was as big as Hattie McDaniel,

432
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<v Speaker 6>and she played roles that, you know, these plaintive roles

433
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<v Speaker 6>of you know, these the the servant, the main occasionally

434
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<v Speaker 6>occasionally the slave, right you know, And and she in

435
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<v Speaker 6>reality she was.

436
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<v Speaker 3>This.

437
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<v Speaker 5>She has a three story house.

438
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<v Speaker 6>She's you know, makes a point like, I don't touch

439
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<v Speaker 6>the kitchen. That's not my job. My husband's gonna have

440
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<v Speaker 6>to do that. She smokes cigars, She has poker games

441
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<v Speaker 6>every Sunday up on the third floor, right, you know,

442
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, she loves being first row at the boxing Max.

443
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<v Speaker 6>And he says, it's like it's the same She has

444
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<v Speaker 6>the same voice and the same face, but a completely

445
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<v Speaker 6>different spine than what I've seen on the screen.

446
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<v Speaker 3>So it's he's just so he can't like he's trying

447
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<v Speaker 3>to reconcile these these two.

448
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<v Speaker 5>Worlds exactly exactly.

449
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<v Speaker 6>And what's really one of the things I found so

450
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<v Speaker 6>compelling about that that community is Charlie was not again,

451
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<v Speaker 6>he was not alone in having mixed feelings about the celebrities,

452
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<v Speaker 6>the black celebrities. In fact, the black business elite generally speaking,

453
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<v Speaker 6>really resented.

454
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<v Speaker 5>The black celebrities because they felt.

455
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<v Speaker 6>They were undermining their own social progress, that these images

456
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<v Speaker 6>that we were seeing on the screen were demeaning the

457
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<v Speaker 6>entire race, and there wasn't a lot of sympathy for

458
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<v Speaker 6>the position that.

459
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<v Speaker 5>These actors were in.

460
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<v Speaker 6>They were genuinely trying to open doors, right, but the

461
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<v Speaker 6>opportunities weren't there for better roles. And for instance, when

462
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<v Speaker 6>they did get better roles, those roles were frequently thanks

463
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<v Speaker 6>to the Hayes Office, which was a censorship office, the

464
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<v Speaker 6>parts that showed them, that showed their agency were taken

465
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<v Speaker 6>out like that was not acceptable. And so even when

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<v Speaker 6>they accepted roles that they thought, oh, this is the

467
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<v Speaker 6>role where I get to show my strength, then it's

468
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<v Speaker 6>literally in a movie that Louisse Beaver's was in Imitation

469
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<v Speaker 6>of Life. Someone from the Hayes Office wrote and said,

470
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<v Speaker 6>looking at this script, it would appear you don't seem

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<v Speaker 6>to see how these the black servants don't want more

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<v Speaker 6>than being a black servant, that they want to be independent.

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<v Speaker 6>Surely I know that you must be wanting to show

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<v Speaker 6>that they are happy with their place in society, but

475
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<v Speaker 6>it's not coming through, so you need to adjust the

476
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<v Speaker 6>script right exactly exactly so.

477
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<v Speaker 5>But there wasn't sympathy for that in the black communities

478
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<v Speaker 5>or in the black business elite.

479
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<v Speaker 2>And that's interesting.

480
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<v Speaker 3>So even within this affluent world and Black America's flourish

481
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<v Speaker 3>in this way, and your main character is coming from

482
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<v Speaker 3>this place where he just can't believe all these black

483
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:07.519
<v Speaker 3>people are doing so well. But even within that community

484
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<v Speaker 3>there is this conflict. They're the business people and then

485
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<v Speaker 3>there's show people.

486
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<v Speaker 2>The show business.

487
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<v Speaker 3>Hold that thought. I'm because it's interesting. You have to

488
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<v Speaker 3>research all this as a writer, you know, getting the plot,

489
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<v Speaker 3>finding your main character that's going to run through this

490
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<v Speaker 3>entire world. You have to research that world because it

491
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<v Speaker 3>is historically based your novel, right, Yeah, So I want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to you a little bit about that, and

493
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<v Speaker 3>you know about what La was like it was the

494
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<v Speaker 3>mid nineteen forties.

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<v Speaker 5>Right ninety five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get to again the books called The

498
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<v Speaker 3>Great Man, and I do want to mention Kira if

499
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<v Speaker 3>you want to meet her. There is a series of

500
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<v Speaker 3>upcoming events June tenth, at Romans in Pasadena.

501
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<v Speaker 2>They always have great events there. They just do such great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, June eleventh Diesel a bookstore Santa Monica, another great spot.

503
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<v Speaker 3>And then June nineteenth Chevaliet Books in Los Angeles. Again

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<v Speaker 3>the tenth, the eleventh, and the nineteenth Romans, Diesel and Chevalier's.

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<v Speaker 3>All that information I think is on your website is

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<v Speaker 3>it's kid.

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<v Speaker 5>Davis Kiridavisluriy dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Ciadavislivery dot com. I knew you when you were Kira Davis.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Then you married an esteemed director.

510
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<v Speaker 2>Rod Lurie. He's very creative, also very talented guy.

511
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<v Speaker 5>He loses a lot of money to you in poker.

512
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<v Speaker 3>That's that's not the way I usually live it. But

513
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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of creativity under that roof of yours.

514
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<v Speaker 3>So that's great. Kira Davis Lourie. We continue the book

515
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<v Speaker 3>Is the Great Man and more.

516
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<v Speaker 4>As we continue, you're listening to KFI AM six forty

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<v Speaker 4>on demand.

518
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<v Speaker 2>What's it is a Pride Day.

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<v Speaker 3>The traffic is being reworked and that will continue for

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<v Speaker 3>the next few hours. We're talking to Kurra Davis LORII.

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<v Speaker 3>Kira Davis Lourie is a best selling author her latest

522
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<v Speaker 3>is The Great Man m A Double n She has,

523
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<v Speaker 3>you know, book signing, and I would imagine they'll read

524
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<v Speaker 3>probably from the book as well at these events June

525
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 3>tenth at Romans and Pasadena, June eleventh at Diesel in

526
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<v Speaker 3>Santa Monica, and June nineteenth at Chevaliet's Books. It takes

527
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<v Speaker 3>place in the nineteen forties, and again it's historical novel,

528
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.000
<v Speaker 3>and this is your first piece of historical fiction, I think, right,

529
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<v Speaker 3>it is. Yeah, And so you had to research this

530
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<v Speaker 3>period of the mid nineteen forties and this part of LA,

531
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<v Speaker 3>this affluent black community made up of, as you suggested,

532
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<v Speaker 3>show business performers top of their game and the business

533
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 3>elite top of their game. These are real people. This

534
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 3>is a real place existed in LA in the mid

535
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<v Speaker 3>nineteen forties. Two things, were there things that surprised you?

536
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<v Speaker 3>First of all in your research? And also was there

537
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<v Speaker 3>stuff in there that you didn't get a chance to

538
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<v Speaker 3>include in the book.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so, so much of it was surprising. For one thing,

540
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<v Speaker 6>you have to think of how people's feelings and their

541
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<v Speaker 6>view and the lens they saw Los Angeles through was

542
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<v Speaker 6>so different in good and bad ways.

543
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<v Speaker 5>One of my characters John Alexander Somerville.

544
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<v Speaker 6>He was the first African American to graduate from USC.

545
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<v Speaker 6>He had a dentistry degree and the top of his

546
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<v Speaker 6>class and opened up a huge luxury hotel and YadA YadA.

547
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<v Speaker 6>But he wrote not a biography, and in it he

548
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<v Speaker 6>talks about how Los Angeles, yes there's racial problems, but

549
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<v Speaker 6>we're so much more enlightened than the majority of the country.

550
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<v Speaker 6>For instance, you don't see the race riots in Los

551
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<v Speaker 6>Angeles that you see in other parts of the country,

552
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<v Speaker 6>and which was true when he wrote that book.

553
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<v Speaker 2>But like, but if you can always take around a

554
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<v Speaker 2>little bit right.

555
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<v Speaker 6>Exactly, it's like, oh wow, this is like such a

556
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<v Speaker 6>different kind of viewpoint of of what LA is right.

557
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<v Speaker 3>What was schene by the way, and just in general

558
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 3>in California, there's a change of open of an acceptance.

559
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know to what extent. That's just sort of

560
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<v Speaker 3>a brand that we have in California. How much of

561
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.199
<v Speaker 3>it is really true, Yeah, but it's interesting that there

562
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 3>was real, his real sense, palpable sense of it back

563
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<v Speaker 3>in the mid nineteen forties.

564
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<v Speaker 6>He was I mean, he well, he was a very

565
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<v Speaker 6>he was a very optimistic man, and he definitely saw

566
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<v Speaker 6>he saw the opportunity. He felt like if you just

567
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.199
<v Speaker 6>talked to people, were reasonable with them, things would progress.

568
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 6>And that was frequently his experience. Now, it is also

569
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<v Speaker 6>true that Los Angeles, a California in general, but definitely

570
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<v Speaker 6>particularly Los Angeles, had a lot of what they called

571
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<v Speaker 6>racial covenants. About eighty percent of Los Angeles, the apercent

572
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<v Speaker 6>of the homes of Los Angeles had a covenant on

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<v Speaker 6>them saying that the only people who were allowed to

574
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<v Speaker 6>live in those homes were white people. Yeah, and the

575
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<v Speaker 6>only and if you were black, the only way that

576
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<v Speaker 6>you were allowed to live in the those homes was

577
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<v Speaker 6>if you were a servant to white people and so,

578
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 6>and that included the homes in West Adam Heights. So

579
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<v Speaker 6>there was actually in the book at details there was

580
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<v Speaker 6>a lawsuit from the white neighbors who were trying to

581
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<v Speaker 6>get these people kicked out of their homes because of

582
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<v Speaker 6>the racial covenants on there.

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<v Speaker 2>So wow, Yeah, in battle to their own neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly, exactly, And that's and it's sort of an interest

585
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<v Speaker 6>again talk about economies. You have these people in Minx

586
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<v Speaker 6>who are on the verge of being homeless because of

587
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 6>people trying to kick them out of their homes. So

588
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 6>it's it's based on race and nothing else. And at

589
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 6>that time, the racial covenants were considered legal, so it

590
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:48.280
<v Speaker 6>was it was a real battle and that really started

591
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<v Speaker 6>to be honest, not with African Americans. It was a

592
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<v Speaker 6>push against the Chinese residence of the turn of the

593
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.639
<v Speaker 6>twentieth century in California, and then it just sort of

594
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<v Speaker 6>moved ethnic group.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, exactly, exactly exactly.

596
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<v Speaker 2>What and what's what?

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<v Speaker 3>What part of this world that your researched in that

598
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<v Speaker 3>mid nineteen forties world, in that neighborhood that you described,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the backdrop for this book, The Great Man? What

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<v Speaker 3>what would you have liked to include that you couldn't Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 6>The Hattie McDaniel, she was mammy and gone with the wind.

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<v Speaker 6>They had the premiere in a Georgia Atlanta theater. It

603
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<v Speaker 6>was a segregated theater, so she was not allowed to

604
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<v Speaker 6>attend the premiere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's so many of those kinds of stories exactly.

606
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<v Speaker 6>So they had this big premiere and just to put

607
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<v Speaker 6>an exclamation point on the whole thing, they brought in

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<v Speaker 6>a kid's choir that they kind of dressed up in

609
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<v Speaker 6>rags and they were it was a black kids choir

610
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<v Speaker 6>and they were going to sing and it was supposed

611
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<v Speaker 6>to be like the slaves of the plantation South for

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<v Speaker 6>this white audience and like to entertain them before in

613
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<v Speaker 6>that choir. One of the kids in that choir was

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<v Speaker 6>Martin Luther King Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, what a fact?

616
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<v Speaker 3>Right?

617
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<v Speaker 2>What a fact?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>How did you discover that that was?

620
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<v Speaker 5>I mean when I was so that's again, it's document.

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<v Speaker 6>When I was researching Hattie McDaniel looking through all the

622
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<v Speaker 6>materials of that premiere, I mean, that was in there,

623
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<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, but but nobody in nineteen forty five

624
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<v Speaker 6>knows who Martin Luther King Jr.

625
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<v Speaker 2>Is.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't include it. I can't include it.

627
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<v Speaker 6>It's like, so it doesn't But but how much did

628
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<v Speaker 6>I want to?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Somehow?

630
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<v Speaker 5>Exactly?

631
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<v Speaker 2>That's wild.

632
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<v Speaker 3>That's so true though, when you immerse yourself in a

633
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<v Speaker 3>time period, you can't just jump out and go, hey,

634
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<v Speaker 3>by the way.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, it's nice j MLK and the yeah, and they're

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<v Speaker 6>going to be like, I'm sorry who So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 6>and there was so much like that, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>really it was really a challenge for me choosing what

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<v Speaker 6>to include and what just was ended up sounding like

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<v Speaker 6>a lecture.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like I want you need to just be entertainment

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<v Speaker 6>and so but there was like all of this extra

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<v Speaker 6>stuff that I learned. I wish I could just sort

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<v Speaker 6>of pack in there, and you can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly. And by the way, you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 5>there's no but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to be a good ride for your reader,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I mean. Obviously you're a best selling author.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you've been true to and that ride for

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<v Speaker 3>the reader. The great Man. So your character in the

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of moments that we have, your character does

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<v Speaker 3>get into this world and again after military service, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think falls in with I was just reading about

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<v Speaker 3>the book I have to get into the book falls

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<v Speaker 3>into with some not so savory characters.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, okay, so I do have a gas b

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<v Speaker 6>esque character, right, So James quote unquote reaper Man, right,

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<v Speaker 6>Reaper is his mo like her that nobody uses to

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<v Speaker 6>his face, right, and it's he clearly has extraordinary wealth.

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<v Speaker 6>He is like Hattie throwing huge gala events, except even bigger.

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<v Speaker 5>The neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 6>Both the business moguls and the Hollywood elite are a

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<v Speaker 6>little nervous about this guy, because they don't really know

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<v Speaker 6>where he came from or where his money came from.

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<v Speaker 6>And they're already battling for their homes, so they don't

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<v Speaker 6>really need any extra controversy that he may be bringing in.

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<v Speaker 6>But Charlie is really drawn to him, and he's very

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<v Speaker 6>kind to Charlie, and the parties are amazing, and so

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<v Speaker 6>he sort of gets wrapped up in his world too, of.

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<v Speaker 5>Just a little bit of like.

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<v Speaker 6>Mystery, the hint of maybe something nefarious, but you don't

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<v Speaker 6>really know, right And and of course, as in Gatsby,

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<v Speaker 6>it turns out that he is truly in love with

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<v Speaker 6>Charlie's cousin, who the one who brought him out.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's yeah, so so yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know we got and she is married, so

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<v Speaker 6>you know, there's the love triangle, there's like the who

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<v Speaker 6>is this guy? And there is also the clash of

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<v Speaker 6>the two communities and the court case and everything going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's terrific. There sounds like there's so much in

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<v Speaker 3>this book. The great Man Kira Davis LORII, Hey listen again.

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<v Speaker 3>I encourage you to meet Kira and participate in one

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<v Speaker 3>of three events. June tenth at Romans, They do great

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<v Speaker 3>stuff in Pasadena. You can meet Kira, she'll sign your book.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that's at seven, by the way, seven pm,

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<v Speaker 5>so come after work.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh great, Okay, good, it's a nice evening event June

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<v Speaker 3>eleventh at Diesel a bookstore that's at sixth that's at

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<v Speaker 3>six in Santa Monica and Chevalier's Books in LA on

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<v Speaker 3>the nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>What time is that?

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<v Speaker 5>Six six thirty? I think six thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, you can check the website. Kira is k

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<v Speaker 3>y R Kira Davis, l u r E. Kiradavisluri dot

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<v Speaker 3>com has all the information again Romans, Diesel and Chevalier's

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<v Speaker 3>The book is out June tenth, The Great Man. It

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<v Speaker 3>takes place right here in La. There's a Hollywood connection

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<v Speaker 3>and La as most of us had not seen it,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean in the mid nineteen forties. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 3>learned more about La in the nineteen forties in this

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with you than I ever knew. So you're so

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<v Speaker 3>cool to stop to the studio.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Give my best to your your husband. I absolutely it

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<v Speaker 3>was also a very talented guy filmmaker. I hope his

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<v Speaker 3>next work comes out soon and we can talk to

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<v Speaker 3>him as well.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks Kira.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back, we have everything on the docket

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<v Speaker 3>and it includes and this is something we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>want your input on, a pet bereavement counselor you know

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<v Speaker 3>this is true. There's a new book out about essentially

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<v Speaker 3>getting you through the pain, the literal pain you can

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<v Speaker 3>feel emotionally when you lose a pet, a companion animal,

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll talk a little bit about that and with

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<v Speaker 3>her about her new book.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll be at the bottom of the next hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, it's goodbye to Inside the NBA their last night.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll play the mic Drop moment for you next

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