Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen. What What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: What a.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the occult rejects. This episode, you got a
Speaker 2: few of us here. We got Bennett, and we got
Speaker 2: Ethan Indigo. And Bennett's got a topic he's going to cover.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking about dark DNA. But before we
Speaker 2: introduced Bennette got my man Ethan Indigo over here. Let
Speaker 2: everybody know what's over him.
Speaker 3: Well, peace on Earth. Ethan and Indigo Smith here, writer, author,
Speaker 3: researcher occasionally and uh yeah, I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 3: I have a couple of websites, a couple of books
Speaker 3: out there. Geometry of Energy is the most popular and
Speaker 3: easy to find online. And always appreciate Banner.
Speaker 2: Thanks you guys, Oh thank you, so thank you. Like
Speaker 2: I said, researcher occasionally your research Quite often, I would think, though.
Speaker 3: I've been so busy with the gravity of the mundanity
Speaker 3: that it's been spent hard recently.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotch.
Speaker 1: Researcher occasionally. That's just like, man, that's what that is.
Speaker 2: I was like, the about of books he's written, just
Speaker 2: posts and stuff, was like, obviously has to research for
Speaker 2: all that, Like, yeah, he's so he's always so humble.
Speaker 2: I love it, Ethan. Yeah, you're a good guy, but
Speaker 2: I thank you for making it and always appreciate you
Speaker 2: being here. Bennett my man.
Speaker 1: Please Bennett Hanton from the Broadcasting Seeds podcast. I'll get
Speaker 1: the shameless product placement out of the way right away.
Speaker 1: I've got a brand new book out called The War
Speaker 1: you Didn't Know You Were in, Understanding and Winning the
Speaker 1: spiritual Battles. See, I don't even can's it's too long, stupid.
Speaker 1: Uh So that's the book. You can get it an Amazon.
Speaker 1: You can get it on my website all the things.
Speaker 1: Uh what's that called Broadcasting seeds dot com. It's the website.
Speaker 1: I'm really bad at self promotions a.
Speaker 2: Lot, but.
Speaker 3: I get it. Writers writers are generally so I totally empathize.
Speaker 3: Can I ask what is the direction that you go?
Speaker 3: Because I love the title, I love concept.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I you know, I growing up, I just was.
Speaker 1: I was kind of I was plagued with trauma as
Speaker 1: a kid, abused and and you know, I'm adopted, nursed.
Speaker 1: It was just not a cool, good childhood. So at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Uh I did that then
Speaker 1: I was, uh, you know, I had that issue. Then
Speaker 1: I went into the military, and that had its own
Speaker 1: set of challenges, and I found myself coming out and
Speaker 1: literally just feeling I got to a point where I
Speaker 1: literally was and I've always been in the church. My
Speaker 1: dad was a pastor. We used to go to church
Speaker 1: all the time, and he wasn't a practicing pastor per se.
Speaker 1: He was a theologian, right, but either way, we jumped
Speaker 1: around churches and whatnot, so nothing ever quite fit. But
Speaker 1: I always felt oppressed. Does that make sense? So I
Speaker 1: and finally I decided to do something about it one day,
Speaker 1: and I've just this book is kind of a culmination
Speaker 1: of the things that I used, learned and researched and
Speaker 1: put together to kind of clean myself, you know, Uh
Speaker 1: and uh, it's it's it's basically from a Christian perspective,
Speaker 1: but you could use it's it's a guidebook, literally, and
Speaker 1: you could use it non religious, you could do whatever.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a way to ridge yourself of entities
Speaker 1: that you don't want associated or attached to you. You know,
Speaker 1: we all do dumb shit when we're young, and I
Speaker 1: and regardless of what we want, there's good and there's bad.
Speaker 1: There's light and there's dark, and sometimes the dark doesn't
Speaker 1: want what you want. And so I've ever since I've
Speaker 1: gone through the process of doing it, I've been very
Speaker 1: free and I use many of the techniques now to
Speaker 1: stay you know, safe, I guess, is what you could
Speaker 1: say with some of the work that I do do
Speaker 1: and I put myself out there, and but I pray
Speaker 1: for protection, I you know, all the stuff. So it's
Speaker 1: been well received. Everyone that's read it, even my wife
Speaker 1: has been she's my biggest critic, has been and like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that makes so much sense, and it's
Speaker 1: really good. You know, I've got I've had a couple
Speaker 1: of incidents with different I guess you would call them
Speaker 1: entities since I've been with her and she's seen stuff firsthand,
Speaker 1: so and then she's seen the change afterwards. So it's, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty powerful stuff. But it's it's not complicated or
Speaker 1: or you know, dogmatic or anything. So that's I think
Speaker 1: that's the difference with that. It's I try it, as
Speaker 1: Nick knows, I try and stay away from dogma in
Speaker 1: any form or fashion for anyone or anything. I just
Speaker 1: I'm open to all of it. So yeah, man, nice yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, eventually got to get you on the show for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eventually.
Speaker 2: One thing I do want to ask it is still
Speaker 2: a question. I'm just trying to help you out here.
Speaker 2: People are interested in getting this book. Is there a
Speaker 2: site that might be more monetarily beneficial for you for
Speaker 2: them to purchase one? Oh no, because so maybe your
Speaker 2: website you might make it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all it's all Amazon, that's all the money.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, maybe you were saying about yourself at the website now.
Speaker 1: The only the only way to because I'm not really
Speaker 1: I mean, as Ethan can say, I didn't write this
Speaker 1: book to make profit, and as you can see, the
Speaker 1: price isn't profitable.
Speaker 2: Most people I know, I do say that even like.
Speaker 1: If I could give it, if I can afford to
Speaker 1: give it away, I would, and I do. I've given
Speaker 1: away you know, I don't know, uh, probably close to
Speaker 1: fifty copies already. So it's just I just I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. It's it's knowledge. I feel like that's kind
Speaker 1: of should be out there, and I mean, you can
Speaker 1: buy it. That would be greatly appreciated to you. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, there there's
Speaker 1: going to be a point too, probably where at least
Speaker 1: the ebook is going to be completely free the first
Speaker 1: week or the first ten days that it was out
Speaker 1: it was free online anyway. If not, now that's over. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's you know, information that anyone
Speaker 1: can should and could.
Speaker 2: Know nice and should know. So so yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I was gonna I was going to talk about
Speaker 3: writing in broadly, but please no finish.
Speaker 1: No, no, I was. I was just saying I was
Speaker 1: going to say, actually that you understand what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: probably yeah.
Speaker 3: I do. And and I whenever someone says that they're
Speaker 3: planning on writing a book, I say I would wish
Speaker 3: that on anyone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, on anyone, kind of jokingly, because it's really a
Speaker 4: difficult and obsessive process and not necessarily monetarily rewarding.
Speaker 3: However, there are so many direct benefits the result from writing,
Speaker 3: for instance, codifying all these techniques and contemplating them to
Speaker 3: refine them. For instance, you know, I know I've done
Speaker 3: that several times with ideas that might be similar to
Speaker 3: what you put forth, and then sharing it. You get
Speaker 3: the response from people that you about things that you
Speaker 3: might not have even thought about. More directions that you
Speaker 3: weren't even intending ongoing, and it's it's a really rewarding,
Speaker 3: you know, undertaking to write for the right.
Speaker 1: For sure, I and I'm right, So of course. Now see,
Speaker 1: I actually had this book done mostly, I'd say it
Speaker 1: was ninety percent of the way a year ago, but
Speaker 1: I did not post or I didn't publish it because
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you've ever had
Speaker 1: them on the show. I don't think you have. But
Speaker 1: Bo Kennedy is his name from the podcast. He put
Speaker 1: out a spiritual warfare book about a year ago, and
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, man, I'm not gonna not gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, layer them on top. So either way, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have bo I. Bo doesn't know that story,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna he's gonna be on my show next yeah,
Speaker 1: like the first week of February, so I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: him the story. But yeah, so I already started writing
Speaker 1: another book about cryptids. But it's it's not just strictly cryptids.
Speaker 1: It's not strictly Bigfoot dog Man, you know, late creatures
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It is, but it also dives
Speaker 1: deep into the psychology of it too, So it takes
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different turn than a lot
Speaker 1: of the other books. So so yeah, so that'll probably
Speaker 1: be out, I don't know, a few months, so something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: So, uh, DNA our DNA, what brought you? I know
Speaker 2: I had asked you before we were recording. I said,
Speaker 2: what what even got you to just sit on that topic?
Speaker 2: And You're like, maybe should we till we record?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So all right, so I explained earlier, Uh Trump
Speaker 1: traumatic life. Uh. And so I was really, you know,
Speaker 1: some I have four daughters. That's also karmak as far
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, karmas eventful bitch either way. I love
Speaker 1: them all of course, and the one thing I always
Speaker 1: say is I'll never be homeless. So that's a good thing,
Speaker 1: right because one of them is bound to still love
Speaker 1: their dad at some point. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, some of them have they've lived.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, it's not like I've been able to
Speaker 1: give them this blessed life. I guess, you know, they
Speaker 1: definitely haven't had the hardships that I did as a child,
Speaker 1: but they still have like there's like ingrained trauma there. Okay,
Speaker 1: And that's how I was reading it. You also know Nick,
Speaker 1: we've talked about this. I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 1: talked about it on the show, but I can see auras.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you remember I sa I was going to
Speaker 2: bring it on the show for that with headlers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I had a I guess what you would
Speaker 1: call a near death experience. Without the near death experience,
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything other than waking up to you know,
Speaker 1: puking water over the side of the boat that they
Speaker 1: had recess it. I drowned an open ocean, so, which
Speaker 1: was a surreal, surreal experience. But either way, ever since then,
Speaker 1: I have seen There's no other way to describe it,
Speaker 1: but it's auras around folks, and I can see colors,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of like shapes, not really shapes, but
Speaker 1: like h like there's different things that happen with people's
Speaker 1: like maybe their their fields, like sometimes people are what
Speaker 1: I would call sparky. There's there's there's some things else
Speaker 1: that I can see as well. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: I can see some of these like trauma points within
Speaker 1: them that I know because I when I worked for
Speaker 1: in mental health services that I've seen in other people.
Speaker 1: I see them and my daughters, and my daughters have
Speaker 1: not had any of this trauma. So I was like,
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? So I started looking
Speaker 1: into uh trauma and DNA. Well, really shit, turns out
Speaker 1: that you pass that you can absolutely pass trauma on
Speaker 1: to your children and grandchildren through your DNA. So that's
Speaker 1: not the dark That's not what I'm saying. The dark
Speaker 1: DNA is what they now call what would was called
Speaker 1: junk DNA a few years ago. Right, so you hear
Speaker 1: this term dark DNA, Now that's basically replaces junk DNA,
Speaker 1: which is about ninety eight percent of our DNA. And
Speaker 1: they have no idea, at least they did. They had
Speaker 1: no idea what this did. Any of it did. Three
Speaker 1: percent of our like the DNA proteins and whatnot are
Speaker 1: what make us who we are and express in the
Speaker 1: way that you know your eye color, your hair color,
Speaker 1: the way that you do the way that you are
Speaker 1: and you express. But there's ninety eight percent of that
Speaker 1: that's essentially they had coined the term junk DNA. Well
Speaker 1: now they call it dark DNA. Okay, So dark DNA.
Speaker 2: Is not.
Speaker 1: Like evil genes, right or what it is. It's unexpressed
Speaker 1: regulated and suppressed genetic I guess what you would call
Speaker 1: potential that exists inside every human being, right, And modern
Speaker 1: biology already confirms that you do not just inherit genes,
Speaker 1: you inherit also how they are turned on or off.
Speaker 1: And that's the field that people are starting to talk
Speaker 1: about more and more, called epigenetics. Have you guys heard
Speaker 1: of this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, at least talked about it on the show.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I really look at DNA as more
Speaker 1: kind of like a uh, it's more like a piano
Speaker 1: than a fixed song. Right, your life, trauma, environment, your beliefs,
Speaker 1: and stress, your diet, the way you pray, the relationships,
Speaker 1: They decide which keys get played in your DNA, but
Speaker 1: some keys stay locked. Right, So what makes it dark
Speaker 1: in science is simply meaning means it's called dark DNA
Speaker 1: because it's unobserved, inactive, and not yet understood. Right. So,
Speaker 1: just like dark matter, junk DNA or non coded RNA,
Speaker 1: over ninety eight percent of that human DNA does not
Speaker 1: code for proteins, but it is absolutely not useless for sure,
Speaker 1: and it controls when genes activate, how cells can specialize
Speaker 1: in things, and how the immune system responds to stress
Speaker 1: and trauma and how those get stored, right, how disease
Speaker 1: turns on an off all these things. This is all
Speaker 1: just wild, right, So yeah, I guess that's a good opening.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a wild story there, sail like anything.
Speaker 3: It makes me. It makes me think of the input
Speaker 3: of psychological or physical practices like yoga and tai chi
Speaker 3: and chi gung. I think behind that is a lot
Speaker 3: of turning off negative proceedings and turning on positive ones.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I would agree there there there's so much of
Speaker 1: this stuff. You know, you can in essence control to
Speaker 1: an extent, you know, especially especially we know one of
Speaker 1: the things that can really control stuff is yeah, like meditation, breathing, uh,
Speaker 1: and then even like diet. Right, so we we do
Speaker 1: know that trauma especially but not just like you know
Speaker 1: it's it's trauma from all kinds of stuff, right, So
Speaker 1: it doesn't just affect the mind, It rewrites gene expression
Speaker 1: across generations. And this is proven. And I get some
Speaker 1: pushback on this sometimes because Holocaust survivors were one of
Speaker 1: the first studies that they did, and they showed trauma
Speaker 1: markers fasts to children. But one of the other big
Speaker 1: ones is things like famine, even slavery and war and abuse. Right,
Speaker 1: So I mean that means fear, oppression, abuse, homelessness, addiction, violence,
Speaker 1: any traumatic stuff, and that you totally more than likely
Speaker 1: will pass some of the stuff onto your children. And
Speaker 1: it's just kind of wild.
Speaker 3: If you ever, if you ever see a homeopath, uh,
Speaker 3: they will ask you about your personal trauma and familial trauma.
Speaker 3: Absolutely and by way of not necessarily the physical display
Speaker 3: of what's wrong. It's really usually rooted and you know
Speaker 3: something something else behind that is a homeopathic theory.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I would agree that there's that there's certain
Speaker 1: things that are stored and like, uh like different things
Speaker 1: can be stored different places too, Right, Like I have
Speaker 1: a lot of back pain and it's because I had
Speaker 1: some but it's not just uh like physical and right,
Speaker 1: it's literally like that's where I hold a lot of
Speaker 1: my like traumas and my hips. It's really bizarre. But
Speaker 1: like if I go get like reiki, they can clear that. Right.
Speaker 1: It's it's really it's bizarre, but it's really cool. And
Speaker 1: I guess there's a point when dark DNA kind of
Speaker 1: becomes a cultural question as well. And here's where I
Speaker 1: step very carefully because this is where, you know, speculation
Speaker 1: kind of starts to creep in because if large portions
Speaker 1: of our DNA regularly behavior, stress, perception, and adaptation, then
Speaker 1: it opens the door to bigger questions, right, So, like
Speaker 1: why do certain human traits keep reappearing across cultures and time?
Speaker 1: And why do responses feel almost like they're pre loaded?
Speaker 1: We see this in lots of cultures, right. And science
Speaker 1: doesn't say this DNA contains memories, per se or ancient knowledge,
Speaker 1: but it does suggest that we carry biological predispositions shaped
Speaker 1: by like long chains of lived experience. And that's this
Speaker 1: isn't mystical yet, this is evolutionary and epigenetic for sure,
Speaker 1: you know, because then you can get into the non
Speaker 1: human DNA claims and and why does that matter? Right?
Speaker 1: So when people bring up non human or unknown DNA,
Speaker 1: things get really conversational pretty quickly when I bring that
Speaker 1: up to people. But there there have been forensic cases
Speaker 1: and environmental samples where genetic material doesn't cleanly match known
Speaker 1: reference databases. And I bring this up because of the
Speaker 1: Sasquatch Genome project or what you would call that. There's
Speaker 1: an actual name for it, and it's a DNA study
Speaker 1: done on Sasquatch, and a lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: anything about it because it was frankly suppressed. Right. It's
Speaker 1: actually called and you can look it up and go
Speaker 1: through it yourselves, guys. It's called the novel North American Hominins,
Speaker 1: Next Generation Sequencing of three whole Genomes and associated Studies.
Speaker 1: It's a mouthful, right, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: when you start looking into stuff like that at because
Speaker 1: at one point, I mean so it gets slippery when
Speaker 1: you start really thinking about what who inhabited Earth right
Speaker 1: at certain times? And we have evidence of at one
Speaker 1: point what you would consider six different hominids seven I think,
Speaker 1: actually existing on the planet at the same time, right,
Speaker 1: And this is you know, alleged scientific evidence. Who knows.
Speaker 1: I'm not a scientist by any stretching imagination. I just
Speaker 1: read a lot, right, and do research like Ethan does sometimes.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to that though, you start running
Speaker 1: into especially once they've started doing stuff with Crisper, which
Speaker 1: I'll get into in a little while, with GNA splice.
Speaker 2: Do you get into it? How did I come across
Speaker 2: palindromes at all and your.
Speaker 1: Stuff palindrones I don't know, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think I could be completely off. I don't want
Speaker 2: Lisa used to go on about I think like fucking
Speaker 2: with DNA. Uh if when.
Speaker 1: You find patron with DNA right now?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when you find the palindromes in like code,
Speaker 2: like sometimes you'll see like when one thing goes to
Speaker 2: the next, you'll actually be a palindrome. And then that's
Speaker 2: when you can it's really I'm thinking, because you mentioned
Speaker 2: keys before, that's when you can actually insert oh yeah,
Speaker 2: change it.
Speaker 1: And we can. I can go into that. And there's
Speaker 1: there's some parts in my notes there it's you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is all very it gets really science y,
Speaker 1: and I don't really you know, I'm not qualified to
Speaker 1: go down that road. But this is kind of where
Speaker 1: where I've gone because of this started this research for
Speaker 1: my own purposes and my kids, right, and how I
Speaker 1: could maybe help them.
Speaker 2: But like.
Speaker 1: When you start talking about it doesn't automatically mean cryptid's
Speaker 1: hybrids or anything exotic, right. It often means sometimes there's
Speaker 1: contamination or degradation or incomplete databases, right, But it also
Speaker 1: highlights something important that our genetic reference library is just
Speaker 1: not complete and too when we talk about what DNA
Speaker 1: exists and what doesn't. You can run into some roadblocks
Speaker 1: because you won't get them, or well there's no match,
Speaker 1: Well what the hell does that mean? No match? What
Speaker 1: just means that it's not in the database, That's what
Speaker 1: it means. It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, because
Speaker 1: obviously it exists, right, especially when it comes to ancient
Speaker 1: pop populations like extinct hominins like Neanderthalos and Desnovin's and
Speaker 1: Homoflorensis and things like this, right, regional genetic variations. So
Speaker 1: this is where I kind of get, you know, I
Speaker 1: guess the real quick, big takeaway is that the point
Speaker 1: of talking about dark DNA isn't to jump straight to
Speaker 1: like wild conclusions, but it's to recognize that we are
Speaker 1: far less simple then we're taught. Period, You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. DNA isn't just a static instruction manual. DNA
Speaker 1: is responsive, and it listens and it adapts and in
Speaker 1: some ways it remembers. And the more that we study it,
Speaker 1: the more we realize that human biology sits at this
Speaker 1: intersection of environment history and lived experience, and that alone
Speaker 1: should change how we think about trauma and health and
Speaker 1: behavior and even identity. So I mean that's kind of
Speaker 1: a big statement, right, but uh, that's where I go
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what I was talking about before is, uh,
Speaker 2: that's what viruses. Like viruses will look for palindromes inside
Speaker 2: the sequencing. Yeah, and then that's when they'll insert themselves
Speaker 2: to start changing shit. And that's exactly how the Crisper
Speaker 2: got They mimicked that for the Crisper right, right, right, right,
Speaker 2: I know something with the palindromes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, palindrome. And I've never I don't know why I've
Speaker 1: never heard that.
Speaker 2: Remember that one time I made some corny joke about
Speaker 2: palindromes inside the chat. I think you're the only one
Speaker 2: that laughed at it. I was like, maybe you got
Speaker 2: it because she was telling me about this this whole
Speaker 2: thing about how like this ship manipulates two palodromes in sequencing.
Speaker 2: So I had that stuck up, right, That's why I
Speaker 2: made that choosy joke about paler chromes. Yeah, so dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I that kind of brings us into like
Speaker 1: locked DNA, like locking and unlocking these genes, right, I
Speaker 1: guess you have the two main ones like ways that
Speaker 1: genes are are. They're not simply on and off. They're
Speaker 1: regulated by markers, right that chemically attached to the DNA
Speaker 1: and silence to active or activate genes. So I wonder
Speaker 1: what a palodrome is if it's a marker, is that
Speaker 1: is that what we is that?
Speaker 2: Well, that would be like the sequence would be like five.
Speaker 2: Let's say it was like five six five one, there
Speaker 2: would be one five six five whatever it be, the
Speaker 2: opposite like flipped, and then in between those were those
Speaker 2: two numbers meet in the middle of the palindrome.
Speaker 1: Okay, that reads the same forwards and backwards. But biology,
Speaker 1: DNA sequences and even music showcasing symmetry ship okay.
Speaker 2: Even like a lot of biblical names even do that Jewish?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess that's a way that they could
Speaker 1: read it right as well. So well, the two main
Speaker 1: forms of like ways to chemically do you have DNA
Speaker 1: methylation and you have what's called his stone modification and
Speaker 1: they literally behave like locks and switches on a genome
Speaker 1: and again trauma, famine, stress, abuse, fear add these locks. Right,
Speaker 1: it's not a metaphor, it's just it's chemistry.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: So we have all the generational stuff, so you can
Speaker 1: get into I kind of do go into certain things
Speaker 1: with like religion to an extent, and I don't really
Speaker 1: mean religion per se, but you talk about you can
Speaker 1: say religion because of the overall arching thing, but whether
Speaker 1: you believe in God or gods or or all these
Speaker 1: other things. At the end of the day, when it
Speaker 1: comes to scripture, like in scripture, you've got to covenant
Speaker 1: is a binding agreement that grants legal access. It almost
Speaker 1: seems like some of these genetic things, that's what they are,
Speaker 1: like spirituality and trauma and do the same things biologically right,
Speaker 1: and they create behavior patterns and nervous system responses and
Speaker 1: all these things like addiction loops and emotional all of
Speaker 1: it right, and you can attain or you can some
Speaker 1: of this things. It's like certain people. And this is
Speaker 1: where I was talking about with the cultural aspects of
Speaker 1: some of this stuff, is it seems like bloodlines obviously
Speaker 1: carry certain traits, right, and that's coded in your DNA,
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't it be Why couldn't you say that
Speaker 1: it's also spiritual covenants and they just get attached right,
Speaker 1: things like that, And I've I've kind of talked about
Speaker 1: this on on other podcasts, but I don't know why
Speaker 1: I didn't bring those notes with me.
Speaker 2: Quick question, I do want to ask. We're just real quick,
Speaker 2: and I'm not expected that you did any work on this,
Speaker 2: just your opinion. Maybe with trauma being encoded into your DNA,
Speaker 2: could there be possibly like other experiences that are positive
Speaker 2: that might be quoted in your DNA from your past.
Speaker 1: I just I shouldn't say why there wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be, of course to think about.
Speaker 1: I absolutely think it would work both ways. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's always going to be negative. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at the universe, you know, equal and opposite reactions to stuff, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And sometimes there's the idea of hormesis where the
Speaker 3: certain exposure to actual negative, poisonous things cause UH new
Speaker 3: strength to develop to deal with such. I mean, arguably
Speaker 3: the reason we have muscles at all is to deal
Speaker 3: with gravity. So you could almost say that's an example
Speaker 3: of a kind of a small instance of that where
Speaker 3: you know, it's difficult to deal with so we developed
Speaker 3: muscles to deal with it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and resilience and all kinds of other things, right,
Speaker 1: especially to things like famine.
Speaker 3: And I was thinking into cheap practice, and I'm sorry
Speaker 3: forgive my poor internet connection. Guys, in Taichi practice, we
Speaker 3: talk about evolution in terms of an ongoing thing, and
Speaker 3: that we're actually kind of inhibited beings right now in
Speaker 3: our evolutionary process. For we're not really designed to stand
Speaker 3: even though we stand. Our hips and our lower back
Speaker 3: and what is called in Chinese the quaw, which is
Speaker 3: essentially our whole uh coordinate of our lower back and
Speaker 3: hips and waist uh is considered the quaw below the
Speaker 3: waist rather so uh, this is this is an area
Speaker 3: that we're constantly dealing with actual gravity uh influence. That's
Speaker 3: quite painful. So sometimes a stretch is even to just
Speaker 3: get and not in any particular way, but just understand
Speaker 3: that idea that we're not even quite effective animals for
Speaker 3: standing up right and get the back parallel with the ground. However,
Speaker 3: however you're going to do it, that can really open
Speaker 3: up the hips and let us deal with gravity.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, it's one of those. Yeah, it's absolutely great point.
Speaker 1: I just also just to comment on what you had
Speaker 1: said earlier too, is that you know, one of the
Speaker 1: biggest things that causes I guess you would say, now
Speaker 1: see people say evolution, but adaptation is stress, right, and
Speaker 1: so that adaptation is coded into your DNA, is coded
Speaker 1: in your genome. So it it's it's a way of
Speaker 1: natural It's like natural crisper, right, So we so getting
Speaker 1: into crisper just a little bit. We do. It's not
Speaker 1: science fiction. It's we humans have the ability to rewrite
Speaker 1: DNA right now, because we can cut genes, we can
Speaker 1: insert genes, we can delete genes, we can alter embryos,
Speaker 1: we can change traits. I somebody brought up the movie
Speaker 1: to me the other day, and I haven't watched it
Speaker 1: in a long time, but it had that that movie
Speaker 1: with Ethan Hawk and uman Uma Thermon that had like
Speaker 1: the they would have like the Designer babies. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: this is this is what we're talking about essentially, right,
Speaker 1: and it's it's a little scary. I mean, it means
Speaker 1: humanity now has the technological capacity to rewrite the biological
Speaker 1: rules of of our species. And that's frankly unprecedented history.
Speaker 1: But is it you know, what's to say back in
Speaker 1: the day that, especially when you start talking about biblical stuff,
Speaker 1: and these are just examples why uh, hybrids and ancient records,
Speaker 1: I mean here here where again we kind of shift
Speaker 1: carefully right, Ancient culture reports of things like minotaurs and
Speaker 1: satyrs and the Nephelum and centaurs and dog men and
Speaker 1: lion men and giants. These are all in the all
Speaker 1: the all the history and myths and folklore of every
Speaker 1: you know, Samerian tablet of Greek myth and and Norris uh,
Speaker 1: you know, pick pick a freaking culture and have these
Speaker 1: stories that all rhyme. Right, So I'm not claiming that
Speaker 1: you know, they were genetically engineered, but why then, how
Speaker 1: did they come to being? You know, the consistency of
Speaker 1: these reports across culture suggests humanity remembers something, right, and
Speaker 1: that's how I kind of come at that. I'm not
Speaker 1: claiming any proof, but if chrisper can do this, now,
Speaker 1: what could advance civilizations or non human intelligence do in
Speaker 1: the past, right, we talk about it. There's there's all
Speaker 1: kinds of theories ancient aliens or the Watchers you know,
Speaker 1: coming down to Mount Rman and mating with women. But
Speaker 1: there's also stories of them mating with animals things like that.
Speaker 1: So we have things encoded in our DNA that we
Speaker 1: can't freaking read at this point. So yes, it's and
Speaker 1: it's not assertion, but it stays like with my broadcasting seeds.
Speaker 1: In my broadcasting seeds, lane is what I like to
Speaker 1: call it, and it's patterns without conclusions.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You also think about super soldier programs that you hear about,
Speaker 1: you know, in the US military and other militaries, Chinese,
Speaker 1: the Russians actively working on gene edited soldiers and enhancing
Speaker 1: endurance and reducing sleep. And how many times have you
Speaker 1: heard stories about dog Man or Bigfoot? Now I have
Speaker 1: maybe not everyone listening that you know, this is going
Speaker 1: down a railroad here, right, but that they guard deep
Speaker 1: underground military bases and all these things. Right, but you
Speaker 1: know this is all kind of it all kind of rhymes, guys.
Speaker 1: It all kind of rhymes, you know. And yes, I'm
Speaker 1: making some I'm shooting a shotgun right now. I'm not
Speaker 1: sniping with a with a rifle. But frankly, it's not
Speaker 1: conspiracy anymore, especially when we can show that we know
Speaker 1: throughout history, what we can see and what we're told
Speaker 1: is this much of what the actual truth is right
Speaker 1: throughout history, when everything is actually happening, it's this wide
Speaker 1: instead of just what we can see. So I look
Speaker 1: at it. Go ahead, please don't finish up, oh I
Speaker 1: was just saying that, uh, at that you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, this is like the real
Speaker 1: dark DNA war, And that's kind of like my my
Speaker 1: my thesis isn't just monsters, it's that humanity is caught
Speaker 1: between all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3: And that's very profound because it really points to the
Speaker 3: finger internally because there's so much going on inside of
Speaker 3: us that we could change. Someone someone mentioned, huh, the
Speaker 3: gene keys and human design practice earlier in the chat,
Speaker 3: and it reminds me too of what is like something
Speaker 3: that influences every scientific medicine test is the placebo effect, right,
Speaker 3: And really that's kind of kind of a misnomer. It
Speaker 3: should be the placebo power, right, because it's not an
Speaker 3: effect at all. They're they're measuring the effect of a power, really, right,
Speaker 3: and that is the power of us changing the whole
Speaker 3: situation in ways that we didn't know were possible based
Speaker 3: on the assumption that it's possible. Absolutely, So they're definitely
Speaker 3: is a lot to this that we can I don't
Speaker 3: want to say manipulate, but we can enhance our condition
Speaker 3: I think a lot just by our mind state and
Speaker 3: just being a little a little more like there's so
Speaker 3: much tension in the world, but when we bring attention
Speaker 3: to ourselves and things, it's like the opposite of tension.
Speaker 1: In a way.
Speaker 3: A lot of this uh modulity I think has this
Speaker 3: kind of softening attention kind of that helps, Yes.
Speaker 1: For sure, I mean I we also know it's not
Speaker 1: just crisper and stuff like, Like we kind of talked
Speaker 1: about that we can we can actually relax our DNA
Speaker 1: and make ourselves more open to manipulation just through things
Speaker 1: like meditation and whatnot, just by by relaxing, right is.
Speaker 1: And I was just looking for it, but I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't. I thought I saved it.
Speaker 1: But it was a study that I had looked at
Speaker 1: somehow that fell through the cracks today. But a study
Speaker 1: that I was looking at that talked about relaxing the
Speaker 1: genome or relaxing the coil right so it could receive
Speaker 1: things easier. But I can't find it now.
Speaker 3: So well, relaxation is I think, such a big lesson.
Speaker 3: And we don't realize how much tension we operate with
Speaker 3: until we get a massage. Until we focus we focus
Speaker 3: on softening. That's when we realized, oh, I could release
Speaker 3: my shoulders a little bit, and maybe that would help X,
Speaker 3: Y and Z or for just for instance. But there's
Speaker 3: so many wonderful benefits of reoxation. We think we're relaxed,
Speaker 3: but it's it's usually we're just not doing anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly a.
Speaker 3: Lot to relaxation.
Speaker 1: I think one of the big lessons with all of
Speaker 1: this information, though, is that DNA is not a fixed blueprint,
Speaker 1: so you're not gene expression is controlled by chemical markers
Speaker 1: that act like you know, locks and switches. We've we've
Speaker 1: talked about this already, and that you can actually do
Speaker 1: things that switch things on and switch things off. Now,
Speaker 1: of course we're in our infancy of understanding this, right,
Speaker 1: but and we're not even saying I'm not even saying
Speaker 1: like with Cris Burn things like that. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: we can gain control over our own DNA in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways through practices like you know, stuff that's
Speaker 1: taught with Buddhism and even prayer and things like that. Right,
Speaker 1: I fully believe that that we can, that we can
Speaker 1: manipulate these things. I don't know what you guys think
Speaker 1: about that, but I you know, that's kind of where
Speaker 1: I go with it is that you can if it's
Speaker 1: it's I saw somebody had said, sins of the Father's right,
Speaker 1: And that's all stuff that we can kind of fix. Uh,
Speaker 1: sin patterns and dysfunction, right, psychological behavioral loops. We can
Speaker 1: fix these things. And a lot of that stuff is
Speaker 1: already coded in your DNA. I mean you can. It's
Speaker 1: not an excuse to be like, oh, well, god, I'm
Speaker 1: acting like an asshole because I'm it's coded into my DNA.
Speaker 1: But there is kind of a that is kind of
Speaker 1: a thing. So, uh, I look at what I what
Speaker 1: I've started calling I guess you could call them like, well,
Speaker 1: Christians would call them by they would call them strongholds. Uh.
Speaker 1: And like that DNA and essence, Like, let's look at
Speaker 1: it metaphorically too. Is that that it carries evil spirits? Right?
Speaker 1: Spiritual and emotional realities can shape hormones and nervous system
Speaker 1: patterns and all that type of stuff. And that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is that we can manipulate so much of
Speaker 1: this with our minds and our practices.
Speaker 3: So that's beautiful and all that makes me think of
Speaker 3: the concept of face reading, which is really from one
Speaker 3: of the oldest healing practices in China, and it totally
Speaker 3: works as you just or articulated in the sense that
Speaker 3: the question we don't ask is which came first, the
Speaker 3: condition or the posture, And and we in the West
Speaker 3: will of course say, well, my poor posture is because
Speaker 3: of my condition. In the East, and relative to face reading,
Speaker 3: the mind state, it came first to cause the posture.
Speaker 3: And so with face reading the people, the practitioners can
Speaker 3: look at where there are wrinkles and where there are
Speaker 3: obviously kids, kids are so open and untraumatized even when
Speaker 3: they're you know, going through it, where they're you know,
Speaker 3: so elusive to trauma when we are all so elusive
Speaker 3: to it when we're younger. Kids don't necessarily demonstrate this always,
Speaker 3: but as we get older, we'll have certain ways that
Speaker 3: we carry ourselves. And is as little as the practitioner
Speaker 3: the healer articulating a lesson for the person, and it
Speaker 3: might be, you know, their left eye relates to their
Speaker 3: you know, their dad, and this and that, and it's
Speaker 3: this one little thing and the person goes, oh, well, wow,
Speaker 3: I don't have to carry that. And there are examples
Speaker 3: of people's faces changing within a session, which is just odd.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: It's it reminds me too of how the right side
Speaker 3: of our physical external physical is masculine, the left side
Speaker 3: is feminine. And we can see this even when we
Speaker 3: can see our mother and father and our faces almost
Speaker 3: to that point. And in the mind it's the opposite.
Speaker 3: There's like this cross reference thing going on inside in
Speaker 3: the in the mind, the the right brain is controls
Speaker 3: the left for instance.
Speaker 1: This is just interesting, absolutely. I mean, this is like
Speaker 1: wild stuff, man, like I and I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: this is what I do. Guys. There's a reason my
Speaker 1: podcast is called Broadcasting Seeds because I literally just vomit
Speaker 1: seeds on you and make you go down rabbit holes.
Speaker 1: What it knows this. He hears my ship all the time.
Speaker 1: He's like, dude, what are you talking about? So it's
Speaker 1: just what I do.
Speaker 3: Well, when you're talking about epigenetics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, along with along with scripture.
Speaker 3: And everything, cusp I've brought up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, so what but one of the things that.
Speaker 3: You're saying when you talk about I'm on the cusp
Speaker 3: of things so propaps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, true, I guess you're right. It's like one
Speaker 1: of those things.
Speaker 3: You know, I've brought that up with people before relative
Speaker 3: to the transmission of trauma and or knowledge, and they
Speaker 3: dismissed me. Yeah, right, this a year or two has passed,
Speaker 3: come a long way.
Speaker 1: But when I'm now before, and I'll do this with quotations,
Speaker 1: now it's proven by science, you know whatever that means
Speaker 1: half the time. So one of the things, though, I
Speaker 1: really started kind of digging into a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: was this because I have I've read a few books
Speaker 1: by a gentleman named Scott Carpenter who is a bigfoot
Speaker 1: researcher who unfortunately has passed away, and i've kind of
Speaker 1: I know his son now and he was part of
Speaker 1: this that that genome study that I read earlier with
Speaker 1: the stupid long name about North American hominins. But his
Speaker 1: his this kind of all culminates in a in that
Speaker 1: DNA study all kind of culminates down into He's got
Speaker 1: a book that he wrote about it, which I can't find,
Speaker 1: but it's called truth Denied, the Sasquatch DNA Study by
Speaker 1: Scott Carpenter. So I had started rereading that book and
Speaker 1: going through some of the more you know, he also
Speaker 1: has a YouTube channel that you can find all this
Speaker 1: stuff on which is the Sasquatch Awareness Project, and his
Speaker 1: son still maintains that and releases stuff and rehashes it,
Speaker 1: and he goes through a lot of this. This DNA
Speaker 1: study also a new documentary by David Pilates, who is
Speaker 1: the Missing four one one guy, that's how most people
Speaker 1: know him, called American Sasquatch, and he was part of
Speaker 1: this genome project as well the DNA study. But that
Speaker 1: being said, I kind of wanted to bring up some
Speaker 1: points when we talk about Neanderthal and desnovin DNA and
Speaker 1: just how it is you know about human stuff, right,
Speaker 1: so we already know modern humans carry I mean, if
Speaker 1: anyone's done a DNA test, we do know that they
Speaker 1: carry from other DNA from other archaic humans. Non African
Speaker 1: populations carry about one to two percent of Neanderthal DNA,
Speaker 1: and some populations, especially in like Melanesia and parts of
Speaker 1: Southeast Asia carry does what's called Desnovan DNA as well.
Speaker 1: And this isn't really controversial anymore. It's been confirmed through
Speaker 1: you know, genome sequencing and population studies. So these genes
Speaker 1: influence things like immune response and altitude adaptation, skin biology,
Speaker 1: and even have how we respond to certain viruses. Right.
Speaker 1: But with all that being said, what's less talked about
Speaker 1: publicly is that not all archaic like DNA and modern
Speaker 1: humans matches Neanderthal ordsnovn reference genomes. Right, So when researchers
Speaker 1: analyze certain genetic segments, they find regions that look ancient
Speaker 1: clearly non modern, right, but they don't cleanly align with
Speaker 1: any sequenced archaic human and we currently know I should
Speaker 1: say that that we currently know, And in academic papers
Speaker 1: this is often referred to cautiously right, because as introgression
Speaker 1: from unknown or ghost, I'm an in populations right, So
Speaker 1: in that wording is important. Ghost population doesn't mean paranormal obviously,
Speaker 1: it means a population that we haven't recovered DNA from yet,
Speaker 1: but whose genetic fingerprints prints appear indirectly in living humans.
Speaker 1: Like this is we know this, right, and this isn't
Speaker 1: really guesswork. It's researchers use statistical models to compare mutation
Speaker 1: rates as that's what they call them, or haplotypes and
Speaker 1: divergence timelines, and some DNA segments show levels of divergence
Speaker 1: that are just way they're way too old to come
Speaker 1: from Neanderthals or doesen Ovens and suggesting they split from
Speaker 1: our lineage much earlier. In some African population studies show
Speaker 1: introgression from hominins that may have diverged up to a
Speaker 1: million years ago. Right, So what does that mean to me?
Speaker 1: It means Sasquatch as possible as a relic hominint. Meaning
Speaker 1: this DNA project, Right, if you break down DNA usually
Speaker 1: into to its two parts, you have mitochondrial DNA, which
Speaker 1: usually which does track the female side of a of
Speaker 1: a genome, right, and then you have the nuclear DNA,
Speaker 1: which tracks the male side. So the study that we're
Speaker 1: talking about, this DNA study for Sasquatch, the samples that
Speaker 1: they collected, cleaned, did all the stuff that you can
Speaker 1: go through, all the you know, if you're scientifically inclined,
Speaker 1: or you want to read it yourself and just go
Speaker 1: find it. I'm sure if I get of nick or
Speaker 1: somebody can put it in the you know, some sort
Speaker 1: of link, you just have to look it up by
Speaker 1: that study and it'll pop right up on Google. But
Speaker 1: the mitochondrial DNA came back as one hundred percent female human,
Speaker 1: but the nuclear DNA came back is unknown. So what
Speaker 1: does that mean? Right? People will be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know the unfortunately lots of people that would not
Speaker 1: peer review the study. We're stating that, you know, this
Speaker 1: is because contamination and all the excuses that you've ever heard,
Speaker 1: right of of all this type of stuff happened, and
Speaker 1: and that's it. Right, We're not going to give this
Speaker 1: the time of day. But the bottom line is I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: But like, Africa is especially important in this discussion because
Speaker 1: ancient DA preservation is much harder there due to the climate. Right,
Speaker 1: So our reference genomes, they're all incomplete. Yet genetic studies
Speaker 1: on living African populations show signals from unknown archaic comminants
Speaker 1: all over the place, right, they don't match what we've
Speaker 1: already got. So in other words, the absence of fossil
Speaker 1: DNA does not equal absence of ancient humans, right, or
Speaker 1: different types of hominids, right, relic comminids. So this is
Speaker 1: where speculation really comes in. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I feel like we don't know Again, Nick,
Speaker 1: what do I always say? I don't know shit, We
Speaker 1: don't know shit, And this type of stuff just shows
Speaker 1: that we don't know shit. So wild men, beings of
Speaker 1: the forest, I mean, we this comes from every culture
Speaker 1: in the world. And I'm not just talking about Saskatches.
Speaker 1: There's there's other things going on here too. I think
Speaker 1: the core message, though, that I really want listeners to
Speaker 1: walk away with, is that, like modern humans are not
Speaker 1: genetically isolated masterpieces that appeared out of nowhere, right, we
Speaker 1: are composites, and we carry echoes of other human beings
Speaker 1: who lived, adapted, survived, and and some vanished, and some
Speaker 1: of them were named, and some of them we just
Speaker 1: haven't met yet through fossils or whatever. Right, but their
Speaker 1: signatures are still writing quietly in our genome. You know,
Speaker 1: we we have them still there, and that alone should
Speaker 1: make us more humble about how much of our history
Speaker 1: we truly understand or think that we know. Right, And
Speaker 1: this is not non biblical, this is not non Christian,
Speaker 1: this is not non pagan, this is not this isn't
Speaker 1: about all that, because every bit of this can be
Speaker 1: explained by certain aspects of every religion, every color, every
Speaker 1: creedive thing. Right, there's an explanation for all of this.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's kind of what I have to say.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about mitochondria being initially it was a bacteria.
Speaker 3: It may not have been an infection per se. But
Speaker 3: it start Mitochondria was introduced into the human body as bacteria,
Speaker 3: and now it's essential to our mune system function and
Speaker 3: overall being There's also I was thinking of the idea
Speaker 3: you mentioned about how things are essentially turning on and
Speaker 3: turning off. There is a lot of research right now
Speaker 3: that in simple terms, there's a lot more going on,
Speaker 3: but of course we're laying but in simple terms, aging
Speaker 3: itself is essentially a series of turning on and turning
Speaker 3: off different attributes, and they're finding some really simple ways
Speaker 3: to mitigate the aging process. One, for instance, in my research,
Speaker 3: I occasionally do they found that get eliminating protein in
Speaker 3: the blood system? Am I am? I still there? Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a way to eliminate certain proteins and large amounts
Speaker 3: of proteins in the blood which actually cause certain things
Speaker 3: to be turned on and turn off in regards to
Speaker 3: age progression. So there's numerous ways that they're kind of
Speaker 3: trying to prevent the aging process from occurring via simple
Speaker 3: kind of instigation.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, sorry, man, freaking Internet, Seriously, that sucks.
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's the first time I've
Speaker 2: ever seen that actually happen yeah, talking and they drop off.
Speaker 2: It's am like, I just see them drop off as
Speaker 2: somebody else's talking. Oh yeah, let's see if it comes back.
Speaker 1: Well, So one of the things I guess Another thing
Speaker 1: that I'll bring up is I had brought up covenant
Speaker 1: and iniquity and curses earlier, Right, And since we kind
Speaker 1: of what does he say he was cooked with? What
Speaker 1: did he say? He said he was cooking with gas?
Speaker 1: Cooking with gas? Gotcha? So covenants, inequity, and curses. You've
Speaker 1: got spiritual agreements and we all do this. We talked
Speaker 1: about this with the cult practices as well. Right, there's
Speaker 1: there's agreements that are made with things, right, not just
Speaker 1: the cult practices, but all kinds of practices, all practices.
Speaker 1: How spiritual agreements become biological patterns. And I look at
Speaker 1: what a covenant really is and like in scripture, and
Speaker 1: I'll just use that because it's what I'm familiar with.
Speaker 1: In scripture, A covenant is not a vibe or a promise, right,
Speaker 1: This is a binding agreement that grants access or authority
Speaker 1: or inheritance. And you got to think of it as
Speaker 1: a legal framework that defines what flows through a relationship
Speaker 1: or a bloodline. I mean we deal with this stuff
Speaker 1: in like you own a home. That's the same kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Right. That idea maps surprisingly well onto biology. Right,
Speaker 1: And in real life, the things that we choose, especially
Speaker 1: under stress or trauma, form long term regulatory patterns in
Speaker 1: the body, and these patterns get written into all of
Speaker 1: our systems.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Did he get knocked off again?
Speaker 3: No, you're still No, I'm still there. That was beautifully put.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So like the nervous system, the hormonal system, the
Speaker 1: immune system, and through epigenetics and the genome. It's kind
Speaker 1: of what you were talking about a little earlier. So
Speaker 1: when the Bible talks about a nick moving through generations,
Speaker 1: modern science would describe the same thing as intergenerational biological programming, right.
Speaker 1: And how trauma and sin become legal access in the
Speaker 1: body in like spirituality spiritual practices. When someone experiences or
Speaker 1: participate in things like chronic fear, violence, sexual abuse, betrayal, addiction, abandonment,
Speaker 1: their body enters into I guess the best way is
Speaker 1: described it as a survival state. And that state is
Speaker 1: not emotional, it is physiological, and stress hormone surge and
Speaker 1: inflammation goes up, and the nervous system shifts into fight
Speaker 1: or flight. We talk about this constantly, and those cinemical
Speaker 1: signals cause epigenetic changes that turns stress genes on, turn
Speaker 1: repair and growth genes off, and alter immune response, rewire
Speaker 1: emotional regulation. This is the same mechanism described by epigenetics. Right,
Speaker 1: So DNA methylation and his stone changes they literally silence
Speaker 1: or amplify specific genes. And I've kind of hit this
Speaker 1: part ad nauseum, but I need people to understand that
Speaker 1: these things become inherited vulnerabilities. And when those stress coded
Speaker 1: epigenetic patterns reach reproductive cells, they can be passed on.
Speaker 1: That's that means children inherent not just DNA, but the
Speaker 1: way the DNA has been trained or behaved. This is
Speaker 1: why this is the mechanism, right and bog In biological terms,
Speaker 1: this looks like a curse in specific certain aspects, right,
Speaker 1: like when we talk about addiction and rage and depression
Speaker 1: and anxiety, autoimmune illnesses and abusive relationship patterns. Right, even
Speaker 1: when children grow up in safe homes like like my kids,
Speaker 1: their bodies can still be turned tuned for danger. Why
Speaker 1: is that? And that's why? And that shocking? Like I
Speaker 1: had said just a second ago shocking looks like a curse,
Speaker 1: but people would just science just calls it epigenetic inheritance.
Speaker 1: Different language, same phenomena. I'm not saying that demons live
Speaker 1: and go ahead.
Speaker 3: Sorry, no, I don't mean to interrupt you. I just
Speaker 3: was saying it's a great esoteric take on that biblical
Speaker 3: and lesson if you will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm not saying like demons live in DNA, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they live in DNA. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that you're not claiming I'm not claiming that that
Speaker 1: spiritual beings physically reside in chromosomes. Here, guys, what I
Speaker 1: am saying is that spiritual and emotional realities do change
Speaker 1: biology through known pathways, period. And this is exactly what
Speaker 1: neuroscience shows through thoughts, beliefs, and emotional states. I mean,
Speaker 1: we know that they alter cortisol levels and inflammation, all
Speaker 1: the things, brainwiring, gene expression, all of it. Right, So
Speaker 1: when scripture talks about repentance or healing or forgiveness and renewal,
Speaker 1: dat aligns with biology. Period. These practices send new signals
Speaker 1: and signals to the body that can reverse epigenetic locks
Speaker 1: and restore function and where theology and neuroscience meet. The
Speaker 1: Bible says identity, truth and spiritual alignment bring freedom. Neuroscience
Speaker 1: says safety, regulation and coherence bring healing. Both point to
Speaker 1: the same outcome, restoration of the whole person. So spiritual
Speaker 1: realities imprint biological outcomes because the human being is not
Speaker 1: divided into spiritual and physical has We are one integrated system.
Speaker 1: And that's frankly, what this is all about. And I
Speaker 1: need people, I really work to so people see that
Speaker 1: whatever your beliefs are, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we're not separated things. We are we are integrated spiritual
Speaker 1: and physical beings in one I mean even.
Speaker 2: That, I would just assume the technology we have could
Speaker 2: force that to happen. We're looking at our phones in
Speaker 2: the computer and the TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why couldn't they Absolutely, you're just desensitized to it.
Speaker 2: You can be flipping switches, so you could be flipping
Speaker 2: keys all day looking at the TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's a whole pattern change that looking at
Speaker 3: the phones is actually causing on young people's bodies. They're
Speaker 3: getting like a certain curvature in their upper back or
Speaker 3: neck bound because they spend so much time.
Speaker 1: I probably have not you a right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh what, well, a lot of people get it
Speaker 3: just by we all are dealing with gravity, right, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know we should a Taichi recommendation just practice standing
Speaker 3: in alignment every once in a while. It's kind of
Speaker 3: a powdered changer. But but young people, yeah, they're like
Speaker 3: almost developing a physically different bone.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so for sure, set set good patterns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean you can get I can get
Speaker 1: deep into this stuff too, where you bring up mm hmm,
Speaker 1: bringing in stuff like the mark of the beast, like
Speaker 1: what is that you know, things along those lines. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know that's chrispher decade. It could be all kinds
Speaker 1: of ship. But I don't really want to go down
Speaker 1: that rabbit hole. No, but but you could. I mean,
Speaker 1: in all honesty, it's uh so yeah, man, I think
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think this is
Speaker 1: the type of knowledge that makes people understand that first off,
Speaker 1: we don't know shit, second off, that we really need
Speaker 1: to be more open minded than we are as a species,
Speaker 1: and just knock it off. Knock it off, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be all kumbayah, right, but enough, you
Speaker 1: see all this nonsense going on all over the freaking
Speaker 1: planet that and ninety percent of it doesn't matter. So
Speaker 1: I agree, and we argue about the dumbest shit. So
Speaker 1: I just I Yeah, my one of my daughters is
Speaker 1: like a reality TV junkie, and it's like, dude, what
Speaker 1: hell are you doing? Like you can? Oh you know
Speaker 1: how you're so smart? Like what are you doing?
Speaker 2: So you know how twisted ship's got? You got fucking
Speaker 2: the left actually video recording themselves shooting guns and holding guns. Now,
Speaker 2: how the fuck did you get yourself get there from
Speaker 2: a few months ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so bizarre. And the ship we fight over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I dude, I was this professional I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: which people that know me know I was a professional
Speaker 1: soldier for my entire adult life until in one former
Speaker 1: fashion for you know, a full thirty years of my life.
Speaker 1: And enough I've seen enough for everywhere. Yeah, it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: It's just disgusting and it's gross and people need to
Speaker 1: knock it off.
Speaker 2: And I really getting like the really good look at
Speaker 2: its ugliest side.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so horrific man that I just can't. I
Speaker 1: I don't participate in the bullshit as much. I I
Speaker 1: just try to like do research, write books on spiritual
Speaker 1: warfare and like just trying to help people and like
Speaker 1: plant seeds in their minds out how ridiculous so much
Speaker 1: stuff is and that. Yeah, some of the stuff I
Speaker 1: talk about it's ridiculous too. Some of the ship that
Speaker 1: we talk about on this show and others is just
Speaker 1: absolute insanity. But it's like, you know, I at least
Speaker 1: some of it could matter.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's ideas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, we're talking about saving the world.
Speaker 1: We're talking about solving all the world's problems. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have the answers. I just
Speaker 1: I just I want to be the best human I
Speaker 1: can be, So yeah, and help others do the same.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, alright, we if you if you want,
Speaker 2: we can probably wrap it up now too, if you like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm cool with that. I've kind of said everything
Speaker 1: that I need to say. This is a shorter episode,
Speaker 1: but oh no, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I believe me. Sometimes I wish I could.
Speaker 1: We don't need to drag it out. I think I think,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, yeah, the other rabbit hole I just don't
Speaker 1: want to go down. It's just people get Yeah, it
Speaker 1: triggers people too, So.
Speaker 3: It's a very inspiring idea of Ben. Thank you for
Speaker 3: sharing that and thank you for.
Speaker 1: Listening.
Speaker 3: Well, guy, you can't get some absoluteating in.
Speaker 2: The uh there he is there. Oh wait wait wait.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm sorry. I was saying, I was saying, it's
Speaker 3: am I am I on now. Yeah, it's it's such
Speaker 3: a great lesson you puts forth and I love how
Speaker 3: you encapsulate it with the Christian lesson correspondence too. It's
Speaker 3: really really powerful, beautiful.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I don't it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be Christian. You can look at it
Speaker 1: through any lens that you want, whichever you know, uh
Speaker 1: lens you want to look at it. Sure, it's incorporated.
Speaker 1: This is universal language here, folks. And that's what I
Speaker 1: need people to see is that all of our bullshit
Speaker 1: speaks the same fucking language. Stop trying to transfer it
Speaker 1: to something that's not. So.
Speaker 3: It's just a great take on the Covenant idea and
Speaker 3: and all the curses and the healing. It's a it's
Speaker 3: a it's a great uh series of lessons.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank thanks for coming guys, Thanks for letting me on
Speaker 1: Cardinal Electric head. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I would even say, just when it comes to DNA,
Speaker 2: I would even think that's such a huge sys. I
Speaker 2: think it occultism that people don't realize.
Speaker 1: Oh god, so.
Speaker 2: I do think there's a cult science. And if it's
Speaker 2: if it's in ocultism, that could also be like numbers
Speaker 2: and should have been involved, you know, I could see
Speaker 2: how Yeah, I think, well that's uh, it all ties in.
Speaker 1: Believe it's all because every all the ship man, all
Speaker 1: the practices, all the things, they all rhyme. Dude, I
Speaker 1: say this ad nauseum over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: They all rhyme. They're all coming from the same freaking place. Guys. Sorry,
Speaker 1: They're all coming from whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: They're all coming from the same place.
Speaker 2: Yep. All right, So, uh, before we wrap it up
Speaker 2: before Ethan falls off again because we lose them, do
Speaker 2: you want to I want to let everybody know where
Speaker 2: that can find you at. Sir.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I appreciate it, thanks for putting up on
Speaker 3: my poor I really really appreciate those ideas. And I'm
Speaker 3: easy to find on the internet, writing books and frequently
Speaker 3: and sharing articles frequently. And I'm gonna drop one on
Speaker 3: Occult Research Institute here soon. In correspondence with the reading
Speaker 3: and great lessons to you and headless are doing for
Speaker 3: the seven seven seven book, I have a seven seven
Speaker 3: seven arithmetic equation that I'm going to share on the
Speaker 3: Occult Research Institute here soon. And so and I do writing,
Speaker 3: and like I said, occasional research when the gravity of
Speaker 3: the mundanity of the.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: So appreciate you, guys, perfect.
Speaker 2: Thanks, you made it. I made it all right. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much, Ethan. I definitely appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2: You always have great questions and great stuff to add. Betty.
Speaker 2: Please let everybody know what's up with you.
Speaker 1: Where they can find all yeah, so again, Broadcasting seeds
Speaker 1: dot com. You can find everything there or you know, Instagram,
Speaker 1: YouTube all the things. And check out my book The
Speaker 1: Boy you Didn't Know You Were in. You can buy
Speaker 1: it on Amazon. I mean, if you go through my
Speaker 1: website it's still Amazon. So it's what you were getting
Speaker 1: at earlier, Nick, But you know, you might just like it.
Speaker 1: You never know, But check out Broadcasting Seeds and come
Speaker 1: say hi. You know there's anybody out there that wants
Speaker 1: to come on the show and talk about something. Just
Speaker 1: reach out let me know, so Michae'll be on there
Speaker 1: in a few weeks.
Speaker 2: That was a fun episode actually.
Speaker 1: The second time that you were on there, but this
Speaker 1: episode is way better than the first one.
Speaker 2: So it was really just saying I really really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's where you can check me out. And
Speaker 1: of course Nick and Ethan. Always good to see you guys,
Speaker 1: and I greatly appreciate shated what you do there. Cardinal.
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks try, thank you. Yeah, man, I appreciate you
Speaker 2: all coming on. I guess with the people listening, we
Speaker 2: also got Headless is doing his thing tonight, the mailbag
Speaker 2: and the symbols, so keep an eye out for that.
Speaker 2: I think that's at eight thirty, and then I think
Speaker 2: we're gonna have Metimistics on at like ten o'clock tonight
Speaker 2: Easton time, so check that out. Should it should be
Speaker 2: on for that, If not, then it'll be over on
Speaker 2: be over on Jewels Channel. But I'm pretty sure we'll
Speaker 2: be doing it here, so in case people got nothing
Speaker 2: to do later on, we got two more logs coming
Speaker 2: up actually, so fuck but thank you all and thank
Speaker 2: everybody in the chat. That's what's up. That's why I
Speaker 2: go live and until the next one, everybody be well
Speaker 2: later