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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen. What What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>What a.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the occult rejects. This episode, you got a

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<v Speaker 2>few of us here. We got Bennett, and we got

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<v Speaker 2>Ethan Indigo. And Bennett's got a topic he's going to cover.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be talking about dark DNA. But before we

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<v Speaker 2>introduced Bennette got my man Ethan Indigo over here. Let

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<v Speaker 2>everybody know what's over him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, peace on Earth. Ethan and Indigo Smith here, writer, author,

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<v Speaker 3>researcher occasionally and uh yeah, I'm looking forward to this.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a couple of websites, a couple of books

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<v Speaker 3>out there. Geometry of Energy is the most popular and

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<v Speaker 3>easy to find online. And always appreciate Banner.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks you guys, Oh thank you, so thank you. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, researcher occasionally your research Quite often, I would think, though.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been so busy with the gravity of the mundanity

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<v Speaker 3>that it's been spent hard recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, gotch.

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<v Speaker 1>Researcher occasionally. That's just like, man, that's what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, the about of books he's written, just

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<v Speaker 2>posts and stuff, was like, obviously has to research for

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<v Speaker 2>all that, Like, yeah, he's so he's always so humble.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, Ethan. Yeah, you're a good guy, but

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you for making it and always appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>being here. Bennett my man.

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<v Speaker 1>Please Bennett Hanton from the Broadcasting Seeds podcast. I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>the shameless product placement out of the way right away.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a brand new book out called The War

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<v Speaker 1>you Didn't Know You Were in, Understanding and Winning the

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual Battles. See, I don't even can's it's too long, stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So that's the book. You can get it an Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get it on my website all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh what's that called Broadcasting seeds dot com. It's the website.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really bad at self promotions a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. Writers writers are generally so I totally empathize.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I ask what is the direction that you go?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I love the title, I love concept.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, I you know, I growing up, I just was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of I was plagued with trauma as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, abused and and you know, I'm adopted, nursed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just not a cool, good childhood. So at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, Uh I did that then

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<v Speaker 1>I was, uh, you know, I had that issue. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I went into the military, and that had its own

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<v Speaker 1>set of challenges, and I found myself coming out and

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<v Speaker 1>literally just feeling I got to a point where I

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<v Speaker 1>literally was and I've always been in the church. My

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<v Speaker 1>dad was a pastor. We used to go to church

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and he wasn't a practicing pastor per se.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a theologian, right, but either way, we jumped

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<v Speaker 1>around churches and whatnot, so nothing ever quite fit. But

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<v Speaker 1>I always felt oppressed. Does that make sense? So I

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<v Speaker 1>and finally I decided to do something about it one day,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've just this book is kind of a culmination

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I used, learned and researched and

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<v Speaker 1>put together to kind of clean myself, you know, Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's it's it's basically from a Christian perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could use it's it's a guidebook, literally, and

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<v Speaker 1>you could use it non religious, you could do whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's a way to ridge yourself of entities

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't want associated or attached to you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we all do dumb shit when we're young, and I

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<v Speaker 1>and regardless of what we want, there's good and there's bad.

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<v Speaker 1>There's light and there's dark, and sometimes the dark doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want what you want. And so I've ever since I've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through the process of doing it, I've been very

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<v Speaker 1>free and I use many of the techniques now to

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<v Speaker 1>stay you know, safe, I guess, is what you could

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<v Speaker 1>say with some of the work that I do do

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<v Speaker 1>and I put myself out there, and but I pray

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<v Speaker 1>for protection, I you know, all the stuff. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>been well received. Everyone that's read it, even my wife

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<v Speaker 1>has been she's my biggest critic, has been and like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, that makes so much sense, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really good. You know, I've got I've had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of incidents with different I guess you would call them

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<v Speaker 1>entities since I've been with her and she's seen stuff firsthand,

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<v Speaker 1>so and then she's seen the change afterwards. So it's, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty powerful stuff. But it's it's not complicated or

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, dogmatic or anything. So that's I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the difference with that. It's I try it, as

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<v Speaker 1>Nick knows, I try and stay away from dogma in

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<v Speaker 1>any form or fashion for anyone or anything. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm open to all of it. So yeah, man, nice yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, eventually got to get you on the show for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I do want to ask it is still

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<v Speaker 2>a question. I'm just trying to help you out here.

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<v Speaker 2>People are interested in getting this book. Is there a

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<v Speaker 2>site that might be more monetarily beneficial for you for

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<v Speaker 2>them to purchase one? Oh no, because so maybe your

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<v Speaker 2>website you might make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's all it's all Amazon, that's all the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, maybe you were saying about yourself at the website now.

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<v Speaker 1>The only the only way to because I'm not really

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as Ethan can say, I didn't write this

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<v Speaker 1>book to make profit, and as you can see, the

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<v Speaker 1>price isn't profitable.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people I know, I do say that even like.

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<v Speaker 1>If I could give it, if I can afford to

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<v Speaker 1>give it away, I would, and I do. I've given

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<v Speaker 1>away you know, I don't know, uh, probably close to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty copies already. So it's just I just I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. It's it's knowledge. I feel like that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of should be out there, and I mean, you can

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<v Speaker 1>buy it. That would be greatly appreciated to you. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, you know, there there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a point too, probably where at least

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<v Speaker 1>the ebook is going to be completely free the first

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<v Speaker 1>week or the first ten days that it was out

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<v Speaker 1>it was free online anyway. If not, now that's over. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like it's you know, information that anyone

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<v Speaker 1>can should and could.

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<v Speaker 2>Know nice and should know. So so yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I was gonna I was going to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>writing in broadly, but please no finish.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I was. I was just saying I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, actually that you understand what I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>probably yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I do. And and I whenever someone says that they're

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<v Speaker 3>planning on writing a book, I say I would wish

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<v Speaker 3>that on anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, on anyone, kind of jokingly, because it's really a

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<v Speaker 4>difficult and obsessive process and not necessarily monetarily rewarding.

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<v Speaker 3>However, there are so many direct benefits the result from writing,

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<v Speaker 3>for instance, codifying all these techniques and contemplating them to

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<v Speaker 3>refine them. For instance, you know, I know I've done

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<v Speaker 3>that several times with ideas that might be similar to

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<v Speaker 3>what you put forth, and then sharing it. You get

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<v Speaker 3>the response from people that you about things that you

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<v Speaker 3>might not have even thought about. More directions that you

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<v Speaker 3>weren't even intending ongoing, and it's it's a really rewarding,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, undertaking to write for the right.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, I and I'm right, So of course. Now see,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually had this book done mostly, I'd say it

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<v Speaker 1>was ninety percent of the way a year ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did not post or I didn't publish it because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know if you've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>them on the show. I don't think you have. But

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<v Speaker 1>Bo Kennedy is his name from the podcast. He put

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<v Speaker 1>out a spiritual warfare book about a year ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, damn, man, I'm not gonna not gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, layer them on top. So either way, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have bo I. Bo doesn't know that story,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna he's gonna be on my show next yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like the first week of February, so I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>him the story. But yeah, so I already started writing

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<v Speaker 1>another book about cryptids. But it's it's not just strictly cryptids.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not strictly Bigfoot dog Man, you know, late creatures

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. It is, but it also dives

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<v Speaker 1>deep into the psychology of it too, So it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a different turn than a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the other books. So so yeah, so that'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>be out, I don't know, a few months, so something

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, DNA our DNA, what brought you? I know

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<v Speaker 2>I had asked you before we were recording. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what what even got you to just sit on that topic?

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<v Speaker 2>And You're like, maybe should we till we record?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So all right, so I explained earlier, Uh Trump

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic life. Uh. And so I was really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some I have four daughters. That's also karmak as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm concerned, karmas eventful bitch either way. I love

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<v Speaker 1>them all of course, and the one thing I always

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<v Speaker 1>say is I'll never be homeless. So that's a good thing,

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<v Speaker 1>right because one of them is bound to still love

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<v Speaker 1>their dad at some point. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, some of them have they've lived.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say, it's not like I've been able to

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<v Speaker 1>give them this blessed life. I guess, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>definitely haven't had the hardships that I did as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>but they still have like there's like ingrained trauma there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how I was reading it. You also know Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this. I don't know if I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it on the show, but I can see auras.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and you remember I sa I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>bring it on the show for that with headlers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I had a I guess what you would

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember anything other than waking up to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>puking water over the side of the boat that they

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<v Speaker 1>was a surreal, surreal experience. But either way, ever since then,

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen There's no other way to describe it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's auras around folks, and I can see colors,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of like shapes, not really shapes, but

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<v Speaker 1>like h like there's different things that happen with people's

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe their their fields, like sometimes people are what

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<v Speaker 1>I would call sparky. There's there's there's some things else

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<v Speaker 1>that I can see as well. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see some of these like trauma points within

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<v Speaker 1>in mental health services that I've seen in other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I see them and my daughters, and my daughters have

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<v Speaker 1>not had any of this trauma. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell is going on? So I started looking

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<v Speaker 1>into uh trauma and DNA. Well, really shit, turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that you pass that you can absolutely pass trauma on

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<v Speaker 1>to your children and grandchildren through your DNA. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the dark That's not what I'm saying. The dark

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<v Speaker 1>DNA is what they now call what would was called

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<v Speaker 1>junk DNA a few years ago. Right, so you hear

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<v Speaker 1>this term dark DNA, Now that's basically replaces junk DNA,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about ninety eight percent of our DNA. And

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<v Speaker 1>they have no idea, at least they did. They had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what this did. Any of it did. Three

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<v Speaker 1>and you express. But there's ninety eight percent of that

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<v Speaker 1>that's essentially they had coined the term junk DNA. Well

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<v Speaker 1>now they call it dark DNA. Okay, So dark DNA.

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<v Speaker 1>Like evil genes, right or what it is. It's unexpressed

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<v Speaker 1>regulated and suppressed genetic I guess what you would call

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<v Speaker 1>potential that exists inside every human being, right, And modern

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<v Speaker 1>biology already confirms that you do not just inherit genes,

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<v Speaker 1>you inherit also how they are turned on or off.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the field that people are starting to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about more and more, called epigenetics. Have you guys heard

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, at least talked about it on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So I really look at DNA as more

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a uh, it's more like a piano

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<v Speaker 1>than a fixed song. Right, your life, trauma, environment, your beliefs,

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<v Speaker 1>They decide which keys get played in your DNA, but

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<v Speaker 1>some keys stay locked. Right, So what makes it dark

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<v Speaker 1>in science is simply meaning means it's called dark DNA

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<v Speaker 1>because it's unobserved, inactive, and not yet understood. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>just like dark matter, junk DNA or non coded RNA,

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<v Speaker 1>over ninety eight percent of that human DNA does not

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<v Speaker 1>code for proteins, but it is absolutely not useless for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and it controls when genes activate, how cells can specialize

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<v Speaker 1>and trauma and how those get stored, right, how disease

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<v Speaker 1>turns on an off all these things. This is all

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<v Speaker 1>just wild, right, So yeah, I guess that's a good opening.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a wild story there, sail like anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes me. It makes me think of the input

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<v Speaker 3>of psychological or physical practices like yoga and tai chi

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<v Speaker 3>and chi gung. I think behind that is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of turning off negative proceedings and turning on positive ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I would agree there there there's so much of

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<v Speaker 1>and then even like diet. Right, so we we do

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<v Speaker 1>know that trauma especially but not just like you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's trauma from all kinds of stuff, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't just affect the mind, It rewrites gene expression

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<v Speaker 1>across generations. And this is proven. And I get some

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<v Speaker 1>markers fasts to children. But one of the other big

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<v Speaker 1>ones is things like famine, even slavery and war and abuse. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>any traumatic stuff, and that you totally more than likely

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of wild.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ever, if you ever see a homeopath, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely and by way of not necessarily the physical display

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<v Speaker 3>of what's wrong. It's really usually rooted and you know

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<v Speaker 3>something something else behind that is a homeopathic theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and I would agree that there's that there's certain

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<v Speaker 1>things that are stored and like, uh like different things

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<v Speaker 1>can be stored different places too, Right, Like I have

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<v Speaker 1>some but it's not just uh like physical and right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's literally like that's where I hold a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my like traumas and my hips. It's really bizarre. But

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<v Speaker 1>like if I go get like reiki, they can clear that. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's really it's bizarre, but it's really cool. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there's a point when dark DNA kind of

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a cultural question as well. And here's where I

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<v Speaker 1>step very carefully because this is where, you know, speculation

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<v Speaker 1>of our DNA regularly behavior, stress, perception, and adaptation, then

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<v Speaker 1>it opens the door to bigger questions, right, So, like

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<v Speaker 1>why do certain human traits keep reappearing across cultures and time?

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<v Speaker 1>And why do responses feel almost like they're pre loaded?

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<v Speaker 1>We see this in lots of cultures, right. And science

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't say this DNA contains memories, per se or ancient knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does suggest that we carry biological predispositions shaped

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<v Speaker 1>by like long chains of lived experience. And that's this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't mystical yet, this is evolutionary and epigenetic for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because then you can get into the non

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<v Speaker 1>human DNA claims and and why does that matter? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So when people bring up non human or unknown DNA,

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<v Speaker 1>things get really conversational pretty quickly when I bring that

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<v Speaker 1>up to people. But there there have been forensic cases

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<v Speaker 1>and environmental samples where genetic material doesn't cleanly match known

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<v Speaker 1>reference databases. And I bring this up because of the

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<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch Genome project or what you would call that. There's

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<v Speaker 1>done on Sasquatch, and a lot of people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it because it was frankly suppressed. Right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually called and you can look it up and go

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<v Speaker 1>through it yourselves, guys. It's called the novel North American Hominins,

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<v Speaker 1>Next Generation Sequencing of three whole Genomes and associated Studies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mouthful, right, But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>when you start looking into stuff like that at because

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<v Speaker 1>at one point, I mean so it gets slippery when

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<v Speaker 1>you start really thinking about what who inhabited Earth right

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<v Speaker 1>at certain times? And we have evidence of at one

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<v Speaker 1>point what you would consider six different hominids seven I think,

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<v Speaker 1>actually existing on the planet at the same time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is you know, alleged scientific evidence. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a scientist by any stretching imagination. I just

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<v Speaker 1>read a lot, right, and do research like Ethan does sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to that though, you start running

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<v Speaker 1>into especially once they've started doing stuff with Crisper, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get into in a little while, with GNA splice.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get into it? How did I come across

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<v Speaker 2>palindromes at all and your.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff palindrones I don't know, no, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I could be completely off. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa used to go on about I think like fucking

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<v Speaker 2>with DNA. Uh if when.

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<v Speaker 1>You find patron with DNA right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, when you find the palindromes in like code,

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<v Speaker 2>like sometimes you'll see like when one thing goes to

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<v Speaker 2>the next, you'll actually be a palindrome. And then that's

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<v Speaker 2>when you can it's really I'm thinking, because you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>keys before, that's when you can actually insert oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>change it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we can. I can go into that. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's some parts in my notes there it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is all very it gets really science y,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't really you know, I'm not qualified to

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<v Speaker 1>go down that road. But this is kind of where

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<v Speaker 1>where I've gone because of this started this research for

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<v Speaker 1>my own purposes and my kids, right, and how I

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<v Speaker 1>could maybe help them.

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<v Speaker 2>But like.

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<v Speaker 1>When you start talking about it doesn't automatically mean cryptid's

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<v Speaker 1>hybrids or anything exotic, right. It often means sometimes there's

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<v Speaker 1>contamination or degradation or incomplete databases, right, But it also

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<v Speaker 1>highlights something important that our genetic reference library is just

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<v Speaker 1>not complete and too when we talk about what DNA

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<v Speaker 1>exists and what doesn't. You can run into some roadblocks

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<v Speaker 1>because you won't get them, or well there's no match,

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<v Speaker 1>Well what the hell does that mean? No match? What

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<v Speaker 1>just means that it's not in the database, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it means. It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it exists, right, especially when it comes to ancient

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<v Speaker 1>pop populations like extinct hominins like Neanderthalos and Desnovin's and

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<v Speaker 1>Homoflorensis and things like this, right, regional genetic variations. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I kind of get, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the real quick, big takeaway is that the point

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<v Speaker 1>of talking about dark DNA isn't to jump straight to

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<v Speaker 1>like wild conclusions, but it's to recognize that we are

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<v Speaker 1>far less simple then we're taught. Period, You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. DNA isn't just a static instruction manual. DNA

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<v Speaker 1>is responsive, and it listens and it adapts and in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways it remembers. And the more that we study it,

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<v Speaker 1>the more we realize that human biology sits at this

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<v Speaker 1>intersection of environment history and lived experience, and that alone

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<v Speaker 1>should change how we think about trauma and health and

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<v Speaker 1>behavior and even identity. So I mean that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a big statement, right, but uh, that's where I go

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, what I was talking about before is, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what viruses. Like viruses will look for palindromes inside

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<v Speaker 2>the sequencing. Yeah, and then that's when they'll insert themselves

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<v Speaker 2>to start changing shit. And that's exactly how the Crisper

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<v Speaker 2>got They mimicked that for the Crisper right, right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I know something with the palindromes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, palindrome. And I've never I don't know why I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that one time I made some corny joke about

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<v Speaker 2>palindromes inside the chat. I think you're the only one

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<v Speaker 2>that laughed at it. I was like, maybe you got

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<v Speaker 2>it because she was telling me about this this whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing about how like this ship manipulates two palodromes in sequencing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had that stuck up, right, That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>made that choosy joke about paler chromes. Yeah, so dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I that kind of brings us into like

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<v Speaker 1>locked DNA, like locking and unlocking these genes, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you have the two main ones like ways that

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<v Speaker 1>genes are are. They're not simply on and off. They're

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<v Speaker 1>regulated by markers, right that chemically attached to the DNA

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<v Speaker 1>and silence to active or activate genes. So I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what a palodrome is if it's a marker, is that

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<v Speaker 1>is that what we is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that would be like the sequence would be like five.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say it was like five six five one, there

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<v Speaker 2>would be one five six five whatever it be, the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite like flipped, and then in between those were those

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<v Speaker 2>two numbers meet in the middle of the palindrome.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that reads the same forwards and backwards. But biology,

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<v Speaker 1>DNA sequences and even music showcasing symmetry ship okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Even like a lot of biblical names even do that Jewish?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I guess that's a way that they could

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<v Speaker 1>read it right as well. So well, the two main

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<v Speaker 1>forms of like ways to chemically do you have DNA

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<v Speaker 1>methylation and you have what's called his stone modification and

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<v Speaker 1>they literally behave like locks and switches on a genome

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<v Speaker 1>and again trauma, famine, stress, abuse, fear add these locks. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a metaphor, it's just it's chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have all the generational stuff, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>with like religion to an extent, and I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>mean religion per se, but you talk about you can

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<v Speaker 1>say religion because of the overall arching thing, but whether

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<v Speaker 1>you believe in God or gods or or all these

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<v Speaker 1>other things. At the end of the day, when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to scripture, like in scripture, you've got to covenant

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<v Speaker 1>is a binding agreement that grants legal access. It almost

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<v Speaker 1>seems like some of these genetic things, that's what they are,

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<v Speaker 1>like spirituality and trauma and do the same things biologically right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they create behavior patterns and nervous system responses and

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<v Speaker 1>all these things like addiction loops and emotional all of

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<v Speaker 1>it right, and you can attain or you can some

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<v Speaker 1>of this things. It's like certain people. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>where I was talking about with the cultural aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>some of this stuff, is it seems like bloodlines obviously

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<v Speaker 1>carry certain traits, right, and that's coded in your DNA,

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<v Speaker 1>So why wouldn't it be Why couldn't you say that

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<v Speaker 1>it's also spiritual covenants and they just get attached right,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, And I've I've kind of talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this on on other podcasts, but I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't bring those notes with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick question, I do want to ask. We're just real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not expected that you did any work on this,

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<v Speaker 2>just your opinion. Maybe with trauma being encoded into your DNA,

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<v Speaker 2>could there be possibly like other experiences that are positive

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<v Speaker 2>that might be quoted in your DNA from your past.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I shouldn't say why there wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Be, of course to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely think it would work both ways. I don't

436
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<v Speaker 1>think it's always going to be negative. I mean, look

437
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 1>at the universe, you know, equal and opposite reactions to stuff, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And sometimes there's the idea of hormesis where the

439
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<v Speaker 3>certain exposure to actual negative, poisonous things cause UH new

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<v Speaker 3>strength to develop to deal with such. I mean, arguably

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<v Speaker 3>the reason we have muscles at all is to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with gravity. So you could almost say that's an example

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<v Speaker 3>of a kind of a small instance of that where

444
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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's difficult to deal with so we developed

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<v Speaker 3>muscles to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and resilience and all kinds of other things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially to things like famine.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was thinking into cheap practice, and I'm sorry

449
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<v Speaker 3>forgive my poor internet connection. Guys, in Taichi practice, we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about evolution in terms of an ongoing thing, and

451
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<v Speaker 3>that we're actually kind of inhibited beings right now in

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<v Speaker 3>our evolutionary process. For we're not really designed to stand

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<v Speaker 3>even though we stand. Our hips and our lower back

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<v Speaker 3>and what is called in Chinese the quaw, which is

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<v Speaker 3>essentially our whole uh coordinate of our lower back and

456
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<v Speaker 3>hips and waist uh is considered the quaw below the

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<v Speaker 3>waist rather so uh, this is this is an area

458
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<v Speaker 3>that we're constantly dealing with actual gravity uh influence. That's

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<v Speaker 3>quite painful. So sometimes a stretch is even to just

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<v Speaker 3>get and not in any particular way, but just understand

461
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<v Speaker 3>that idea that we're not even quite effective animals for

462
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<v Speaker 3>standing up right and get the back parallel with the ground. However,

463
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<v Speaker 3>however you're going to do it, that can really open

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<v Speaker 3>up the hips and let us deal with gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah, it's one of those. Yeah, it's absolutely great point.

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<v Speaker 1>I just also just to comment on what you had

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<v Speaker 1>said earlier too, is that you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest things that causes I guess you would say, now

469
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<v Speaker 1>see people say evolution, but adaptation is stress, right, and

470
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<v Speaker 1>so that adaptation is coded into your DNA, is coded

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<v Speaker 1>in your genome. So it it's it's a way of

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<v Speaker 1>natural It's like natural crisper, right, So we so getting

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<v Speaker 1>into crisper just a little bit. We do. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>science fiction. It's we humans have the ability to rewrite

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<v Speaker 1>DNA right now, because we can cut genes, we can

476
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<v Speaker 1>insert genes, we can delete genes, we can alter embryos,

477
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<v Speaker 1>we can change traits. I somebody brought up the movie

478
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<v Speaker 1>to me the other day, and I haven't watched it

479
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<v Speaker 1>in a long time, but it had that that movie

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<v Speaker 1>with Ethan Hawk and uman Uma Thermon that had like

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<v Speaker 1>the they would have like the Designer babies. Yeah, right,

482
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<v Speaker 1>this is this is what we're talking about essentially, right,

483
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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a little scary. I mean, it means

484
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<v Speaker 1>humanity now has the technological capacity to rewrite the biological

485
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<v Speaker 1>rules of of our species. And that's frankly unprecedented history.

486
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<v Speaker 1>But is it you know, what's to say back in

487
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<v Speaker 1>the day that, especially when you start talking about biblical stuff,

488
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<v Speaker 1>and these are just examples why uh, hybrids and ancient records,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean here here where again we kind of shift

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<v Speaker 1>carefully right, Ancient culture reports of things like minotaurs and

491
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<v Speaker 1>satyrs and the Nephelum and centaurs and dog men and

492
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<v Speaker 1>lion men and giants. These are all in the all

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<v Speaker 1>the all the history and myths and folklore of every

494
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<v Speaker 1>you know, Samerian tablet of Greek myth and and Norris uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pick pick a freaking culture and have these

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<v Speaker 1>stories that all rhyme. Right, So I'm not claiming that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they were genetically engineered, but why then, how

498
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<v Speaker 1>did they come to being? You know, the consistency of

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<v Speaker 1>these reports across culture suggests humanity remembers something, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I kind of come at that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>claiming any proof, but if chrisper can do this, now,

502
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<v Speaker 1>what could advance civilizations or non human intelligence do in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, right, we talk about it. There's there's all

504
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<v Speaker 1>kinds of theories ancient aliens or the Watchers you know,

505
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 1>coming down to Mount Rman and mating with women. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's also stories of them mating with animals things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have things encoded in our DNA that we

508
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<v Speaker 1>can't freaking read at this point. So yes, it's and

509
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<v Speaker 1>it's not assertion, but it stays like with my broadcasting seeds.

510
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<v Speaker 1>In my broadcasting seeds, lane is what I like to

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<v Speaker 1>call it, and it's patterns without conclusions.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You also think about super soldier programs that you hear about,

514
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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the US military and other militaries, Chinese,

515
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:26.599
<v Speaker 1>the Russians actively working on gene edited soldiers and enhancing

516
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<v Speaker 1>endurance and reducing sleep. And how many times have you

517
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<v Speaker 1>heard stories about dog Man or Bigfoot? Now I have

518
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<v Speaker 1>maybe not everyone listening that you know, this is going

519
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<v Speaker 1>down a railroad here, right, but that they guard deep

520
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 1>underground military bases and all these things. Right, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know this is all kind of it all kind of rhymes, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It all kind of rhymes, you know. And yes, I'm

523
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<v Speaker 1>making some I'm shooting a shotgun right now. I'm not

524
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<v Speaker 1>sniping with a with a rifle. But frankly, it's not

525
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy anymore, especially when we can show that we know

526
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 1>throughout history, what we can see and what we're told

527
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>is this much of what the actual truth is right

528
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>throughout history, when everything is actually happening, it's this wide

529
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<v Speaker 1>instead of just what we can see. So I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it. Go ahead, please don't finish up, oh I

531
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<v Speaker 1>was just saying that, uh, at that you know, at

532
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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, this is like the real

533
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<v Speaker 1>dark DNA war, And that's kind of like my my

534
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<v Speaker 1>my thesis isn't just monsters, it's that humanity is caught

535
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<v Speaker 1>between all kinds of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's very profound because it really points to the

537
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<v Speaker 3>finger internally because there's so much going on inside of

538
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<v Speaker 3>us that we could change. Someone someone mentioned, huh, the

539
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<v Speaker 3>gene keys and human design practice earlier in the chat,

540
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<v Speaker 3>and it reminds me too of what is like something

541
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:34.079
<v Speaker 3>that influences every scientific medicine test is the placebo effect, right,

542
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<v Speaker 3>And really that's kind of kind of a misnomer. It

543
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 3>should be the placebo power, right, because it's not an

544
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:45.599
<v Speaker 3>effect at all. They're they're measuring the effect of a power, really, right,

545
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 3>and that is the power of us changing the whole

546
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<v Speaker 3>situation in ways that we didn't know were possible based

547
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<v Speaker 3>on the assumption that it's possible. Absolutely, So they're definitely

548
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 3>is a lot to this that we can I don't

549
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<v Speaker 3>want to say manipulate, but we can enhance our condition

550
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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot just by our mind state and

551
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<v Speaker 3>just being a little a little more like there's so

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<v Speaker 3>much tension in the world, but when we bring attention

553
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<v Speaker 3>to ourselves and things, it's like the opposite of tension.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of this uh modulity I think has this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of softening attention kind of that helps, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, I mean I we also know it's not

558
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<v Speaker 1>just crisper and stuff like, Like we kind of talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that we can we can actually relax our DNA

560
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<v Speaker 1>and make ourselves more open to manipulation just through things

561
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<v Speaker 1>like meditation and whatnot, just by by relaxing, right is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just looking for it, but I can't.

563
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I didn't. I thought I saved it.

564
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<v Speaker 1>But it was a study that I had looked at

565
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<v Speaker 1>somehow that fell through the cracks today. But a study

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<v Speaker 1>that I was looking at that talked about relaxing the

567
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<v Speaker 1>genome or relaxing the coil right so it could receive

568
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 1>things easier. But I can't find it now.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, relaxation is I think, such a big lesson.

570
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<v Speaker 3>And we don't realize how much tension we operate with

571
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<v Speaker 3>until we get a massage. Until we focus we focus

572
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.280
<v Speaker 3>on softening. That's when we realized, oh, I could release

573
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>my shoulders a little bit, and maybe that would help X,

574
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<v Speaker 3>Y and Z or for just for instance. But there's

575
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<v Speaker 3>so many wonderful benefits of reoxation. We think we're relaxed,

576
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.599
<v Speaker 3>but it's it's usually we're just not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, exactly a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot to relaxation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the big lessons with all of

580
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<v Speaker 1>this information, though, is that DNA is not a fixed blueprint,

581
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<v Speaker 1>so you're not gene expression is controlled by chemical markers

582
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<v Speaker 1>that act like you know, locks and switches. We've we've

583
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:30.039
<v Speaker 1>talked about this already, and that you can actually do

584
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<v Speaker 1>things that switch things on and switch things off. Now,

585
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<v Speaker 1>of course we're in our infancy of understanding this, right,

586
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<v Speaker 1>but and we're not even saying I'm not even saying

587
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<v Speaker 1>like with Cris Burn things like that. I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 1>we can gain control over our own DNA in a

589
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:57.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways through practices like you know, stuff that's

590
00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>taught with Buddhism and even prayer and things like that. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I fully believe that that we can, that we can

592
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<v Speaker 1>manipulate these things. I don't know what you guys think

593
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 1>about that, but I you know, that's kind of where

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<v Speaker 1>I go with it is that you can if it's

595
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<v Speaker 1>it's I saw somebody had said, sins of the Father's right,

596
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<v Speaker 1>And that's all stuff that we can kind of fix. Uh,

597
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>sin patterns and dysfunction, right, psychological behavioral loops. We can

598
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>fix these things. And a lot of that stuff is

599
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>already coded in your DNA. I mean you can. It's

600
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 1>not an excuse to be like, oh, well, god, I'm

601
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 1>acting like an asshole because I'm it's coded into my DNA.

602
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<v Speaker 1>But there is kind of a that is kind of

603
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<v Speaker 1>a thing. So, uh, I look at what I what

604
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<v Speaker 1>I've started calling I guess you could call them like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Christians would call them by they would call them strongholds. Uh.

606
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<v Speaker 1>And like that DNA and essence, Like, let's look at

607
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it metaphorically too. Is that that it carries evil spirits? Right?

608
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<v Speaker 1>Spiritual and emotional realities can shape hormones and nervous system

609
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<v Speaker 1>patterns and all that type of stuff. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, is that we can manipulate so much of

611
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<v Speaker 1>this with our minds and our practices.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's beautiful and all that makes me think of

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<v Speaker 3>the concept of face reading, which is really from one

614
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<v Speaker 3>of the oldest healing practices in China, and it totally

615
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<v Speaker 3>works as you just or articulated in the sense that

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<v Speaker 3>the question we don't ask is which came first, the

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<v Speaker 3>condition or the posture, And and we in the West

618
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.880
<v Speaker 3>will of course say, well, my poor posture is because

619
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 3>of my condition. In the East, and relative to face reading,

620
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:24.360
<v Speaker 3>the mind state, it came first to cause the posture.

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<v Speaker 3>And so with face reading the people, the practitioners can

622
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<v Speaker 3>look at where there are wrinkles and where there are

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<v Speaker 3>obviously kids, kids are so open and untraumatized even when

624
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<v Speaker 3>they're you know, going through it, where they're you know,

625
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<v Speaker 3>so elusive to trauma when we are all so elusive

626
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<v Speaker 3>to it when we're younger. Kids don't necessarily demonstrate this always,

627
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<v Speaker 3>but as we get older, we'll have certain ways that

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<v Speaker 3>we carry ourselves. And is as little as the practitioner

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<v Speaker 3>the healer articulating a lesson for the person, and it

630
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<v Speaker 3>might be, you know, their left eye relates to their

631
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<v Speaker 3>you know, their dad, and this and that, and it's

632
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<v Speaker 3>this one little thing and the person goes, oh, well, wow,

633
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't have to carry that. And there are examples

634
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<v Speaker 3>of people's faces changing within a session, which is just odd.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it reminds me too of how the right side

637
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:43.480
<v Speaker 3>of our physical external physical is masculine, the left side

638
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.159
<v Speaker 3>is feminine. And we can see this even when we

639
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:48.800
<v Speaker 3>can see our mother and father and our faces almost

640
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 3>to that point. And in the mind it's the opposite.

641
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<v Speaker 3>There's like this cross reference thing going on inside in

642
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<v Speaker 3>the in the mind, the the right brain is controls

643
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<v Speaker 3>the left for instance.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just interesting, absolutely. I mean, this is like

645
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<v Speaker 1>wild stuff, man, like I and I'm just you know,

646
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>this is what I do. Guys. There's a reason my

647
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:21.320
<v Speaker 1>podcast is called Broadcasting Seeds because I literally just vomit

648
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>seeds on you and make you go down rabbit holes.

649
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>What it knows this. He hears my ship all the time.

650
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 1>He's like, dude, what are you talking about? So it's

651
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:33.760
<v Speaker 1>just what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you're talking about epigenetics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, along with along with scripture.

654
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<v Speaker 3>And everything, cusp I've brought up.

655
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sorry, so what but one of the things that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're saying when you talk about I'm on the cusp

657
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<v Speaker 3>of things so propaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, true, I guess you're right. It's like one

659
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:01.280
<v Speaker 1>of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've brought that up with people before relative

661
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 3>to the transmission of trauma and or knowledge, and they

662
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:15.960
<v Speaker 3>dismissed me. Yeah, right, this a year or two has passed,

663
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 3>come a long way.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I'm now before, and I'll do this with quotations,

665
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>now it's proven by science, you know whatever that means

666
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.599
<v Speaker 1>half the time. So one of the things, though, I

667
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<v Speaker 1>really started kind of digging into a few weeks ago,

668
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>was this because I have I've read a few books

669
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<v Speaker 1>by a gentleman named Scott Carpenter who is a bigfoot

670
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 1>researcher who unfortunately has passed away, and i've kind of

671
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I know his son now and he was part of

672
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>this that that genome study that I read earlier with

673
00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:02.679
<v Speaker 1>the stupid long name about North American hominins. But his

674
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:06.800
<v Speaker 1>his this kind of all culminates in a in that

675
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>DNA study all kind of culminates down into He's got

676
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<v Speaker 1>a book that he wrote about it, which I can't find,

677
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>but it's called truth Denied, the Sasquatch DNA Study by

678
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Scott Carpenter. So I had started rereading that book and

679
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.159
<v Speaker 1>going through some of the more you know, he also

680
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 1>has a YouTube channel that you can find all this

681
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 1>stuff on which is the Sasquatch Awareness Project, and his

682
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 1>son still maintains that and releases stuff and rehashes it,

683
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and he goes through a lot of this. This DNA

684
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 1>study also a new documentary by David Pilates, who is

685
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<v Speaker 1>the Missing four one one guy, that's how most people

686
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>know him, called American Sasquatch, and he was part of

687
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:03.159
<v Speaker 1>this genome project as well the DNA study. But that

688
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<v Speaker 1>being said, I kind of wanted to bring up some

689
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<v Speaker 1>points when we talk about Neanderthal and desnovin DNA and

690
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:15.199
<v Speaker 1>just how it is you know about human stuff, right,

691
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 1>so we already know modern humans carry I mean, if

692
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 1>anyone's done a DNA test, we do know that they

693
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<v Speaker 1>carry from other DNA from other archaic humans. Non African

694
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<v Speaker 1>populations carry about one to two percent of Neanderthal DNA,

695
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<v Speaker 1>and some populations, especially in like Melanesia and parts of

696
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Southeast Asia carry does what's called Desnovan DNA as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And this isn't really controversial anymore. It's been confirmed through

698
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, genome sequencing and population studies. So these genes

699
00:50:56.000 --> 00:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>influence things like immune response and altitude adaptation, skin biology,

700
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and even have how we respond to certain viruses. Right.

701
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:12.639
<v Speaker 1>But with all that being said, what's less talked about

702
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 1>publicly is that not all archaic like DNA and modern

703
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 1>humans matches Neanderthal ordsnovn reference genomes. Right, So when researchers

704
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 1>analyze certain genetic segments, they find regions that look ancient

705
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:36.440
<v Speaker 1>clearly non modern, right, but they don't cleanly align with

706
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>any sequenced archaic human and we currently know I should

707
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>say that that we currently know, And in academic papers

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00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:55.880
<v Speaker 1>this is often referred to cautiously right, because as introgression

709
00:51:56.519 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>from unknown or ghost, I'm an in populations right, So

710
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:09.320
<v Speaker 1>in that wording is important. Ghost population doesn't mean paranormal obviously,

711
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:15.119
<v Speaker 1>it means a population that we haven't recovered DNA from yet,

712
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>but whose genetic fingerprints prints appear indirectly in living humans.

713
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Like this is we know this, right, and this isn't

714
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:34.599
<v Speaker 1>really guesswork. It's researchers use statistical models to compare mutation

715
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.960
<v Speaker 1>rates as that's what they call them, or haplotypes and

716
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:44.719
<v Speaker 1>divergence timelines, and some DNA segments show levels of divergence

717
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.239
<v Speaker 1>that are just way they're way too old to come

718
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:54.400
<v Speaker 1>from Neanderthals or doesen Ovens and suggesting they split from

719
00:52:54.480 --> 00:53:00.440
<v Speaker 1>our lineage much earlier. In some African population studies show

720
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.800
<v Speaker 1>introgression from hominins that may have diverged up to a

721
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 1>million years ago. Right, So what does that mean to me?

722
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:17.239
<v Speaker 1>It means Sasquatch as possible as a relic hominint. Meaning

723
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.719
<v Speaker 1>this DNA project, Right, if you break down DNA usually

724
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:26.519
<v Speaker 1>into to its two parts, you have mitochondrial DNA, which

725
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:32.320
<v Speaker 1>usually which does track the female side of a of

726
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a genome, right, and then you have the nuclear DNA,

727
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:43.800
<v Speaker 1>which tracks the male side. So the study that we're

728
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about, this DNA study for Sasquatch, the samples that

729
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>they collected, cleaned, did all the stuff that you can

730
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:56.199
<v Speaker 1>go through, all the you know, if you're scientifically inclined,

731
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>or you want to read it yourself and just go

732
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 1>find it. I'm sure if I get of nick or

733
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:04.639
<v Speaker 1>somebody can put it in the you know, some sort

734
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:06.599
<v Speaker 1>of link, you just have to look it up by

735
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:10.280
<v Speaker 1>that study and it'll pop right up on Google. But

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<v Speaker 1>the mitochondrial DNA came back as one hundred percent female human,

737
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:24.119
<v Speaker 1>but the nuclear DNA came back is unknown. So what

738
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:27.800
<v Speaker 1>does that mean? Right? People will be like, oh, well,

739
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you know the unfortunately lots of people that would not

740
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>peer review the study. We're stating that, you know, this

741
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 1>is because contamination and all the excuses that you've ever heard,

742
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:46.840
<v Speaker 1>right of of all this type of stuff happened, and

743
00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's it. Right, We're not going to give this

744
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the time of day. But the bottom line is I'm sorry,

745
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:58.639
<v Speaker 1>But like, Africa is especially important in this discussion because

746
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:04.559
<v Speaker 1>ancient DA preservation is much harder there due to the climate. Right,

747
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 1>So our reference genomes, they're all incomplete. Yet genetic studies

748
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:16.039
<v Speaker 1>on living African populations show signals from unknown archaic comminants

749
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:19.639
<v Speaker 1>all over the place, right, they don't match what we've

750
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>already got. So in other words, the absence of fossil

751
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>DNA does not equal absence of ancient humans, right, or

752
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>different types of hominids, right, relic comminids. So this is

753
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 1>where speculation really comes in. But at the end of

754
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the day, I feel like we don't know Again, Nick,

755
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.239
<v Speaker 1>what do I always say? I don't know shit, We

756
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:58.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know shit, And this type of stuff just shows

757
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 1>that we don't know shit. So wild men, beings of

758
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the forest, I mean, we this comes from every culture

759
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in the world. And I'm not just talking about Saskatches.

760
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:16.079
<v Speaker 1>There's there's other things going on here too. I think

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00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the core message, though, that I really want listeners to

762
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 1>walk away with, is that, like modern humans are not

763
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>genetically isolated masterpieces that appeared out of nowhere, right, we

764
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:37.119
<v Speaker 1>are composites, and we carry echoes of other human beings

765
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:43.440
<v Speaker 1>who lived, adapted, survived, and and some vanished, and some

766
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 1>of them were named, and some of them we just

767
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:50.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't met yet through fossils or whatever. Right, but their

768
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>signatures are still writing quietly in our genome. You know,

769
00:56:55.039 --> 00:57:00.280
<v Speaker 1>we we have them still there, and that alone should

770
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:04.119
<v Speaker 1>make us more humble about how much of our history

771
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>we truly understand or think that we know. Right, And

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00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:12.679
<v Speaker 1>this is not non biblical, this is not non Christian,

773
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.559
<v Speaker 1>this is not non pagan, this is not this isn't

774
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 1>about all that, because every bit of this can be

775
00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>explained by certain aspects of every religion, every color, every

776
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 1>creedive thing. Right, there's an explanation for all of this.

777
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:39.000
<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's kind of what I have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about mitochondria being initially it was a bacteria.

779
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:50.239
<v Speaker 3>It may not have been an infection per se. But

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00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:56.280
<v Speaker 3>it start Mitochondria was introduced into the human body as bacteria,

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00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:01.719
<v Speaker 3>and now it's essential to our mune system function and

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00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:08.679
<v Speaker 3>overall being There's also I was thinking of the idea

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00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 3>you mentioned about how things are essentially turning on and

784
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:18.400
<v Speaker 3>turning off. There is a lot of research right now

785
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:24.800
<v Speaker 3>that in simple terms, there's a lot more going on,

786
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 3>but of course we're laying but in simple terms, aging

787
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:35.360
<v Speaker 3>itself is essentially a series of turning on and turning

788
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:42.400
<v Speaker 3>off different attributes, and they're finding some really simple ways

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00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:49.280
<v Speaker 3>to mitigate the aging process. One, for instance, in my research,

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<v Speaker 3>I occasionally do they found that get eliminating protein in

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00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:04.360
<v Speaker 3>the blood system? Am I am? I still there? Yeah,

792
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 3>there's a way to eliminate certain proteins and large amounts

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00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:13.840
<v Speaker 3>of proteins in the blood which actually cause certain things

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00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:16.719
<v Speaker 3>to be turned on and turn off in regards to

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00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:21.440
<v Speaker 3>age progression. So there's numerous ways that they're kind of

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00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:26.840
<v Speaker 3>trying to prevent the aging process from occurring via simple

797
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:28.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of instigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh ship, sorry, man, freaking Internet, Seriously, that sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's I think that's the first time I've

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00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:46.840
<v Speaker 2>ever seen that actually happen yeah, talking and they drop off.

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00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 2>It's am like, I just see them drop off as

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00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:53.039
<v Speaker 2>somebody else's talking. Oh yeah, let's see if it comes back.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, So one of the things I guess Another thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll bring up is I had brought up covenant

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01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and iniquity and curses earlier, Right, And since we kind

806
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.880
<v Speaker 1>of what does he say he was cooked with? What

807
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:10.480
<v Speaker 1>did he say? He said he was cooking with gas?

808
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Cooking with gas? Gotcha? So covenants, inequity, and curses. You've

809
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:21.119
<v Speaker 1>got spiritual agreements and we all do this. We talked

810
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:23.920
<v Speaker 1>about this with the cult practices as well. Right, there's

811
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:29.039
<v Speaker 1>there's agreements that are made with things, right, not just

812
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the cult practices, but all kinds of practices, all practices.

813
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:39.960
<v Speaker 1>How spiritual agreements become biological patterns. And I look at

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01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:45.400
<v Speaker 1>what a covenant really is and like in scripture, and

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01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.199
<v Speaker 1>I'll just use that because it's what I'm familiar with.

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01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:52.440
<v Speaker 1>In scripture, A covenant is not a vibe or a promise, right,

817
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:58.119
<v Speaker 1>This is a binding agreement that grants access or authority

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01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:02.840
<v Speaker 1>or inheritance. And you got to think of it as

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01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:07.519
<v Speaker 1>a legal framework that defines what flows through a relationship

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01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.480
<v Speaker 1>or a bloodline. I mean we deal with this stuff

821
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:12.800
<v Speaker 1>in like you own a home. That's the same kind

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01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 1>of thing. Right. That idea maps surprisingly well onto biology. Right,

823
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And in real life, the things that we choose, especially

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01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:31.800
<v Speaker 1>under stress or trauma, form long term regulatory patterns in

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<v Speaker 1>the body, and these patterns get written into all of

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<v Speaker 1>our systems.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he get knocked off again?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're still No, I'm still there. That was beautifully put.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So like the nervous system, the hormonal system, the

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<v Speaker 1>immune system, and through epigenetics and the genome. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what you were talking about a little earlier. So

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<v Speaker 1>when the Bible talks about a nick moving through generations,

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01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 1>modern science would describe the same thing as intergenerational biological programming, right.

835
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<v Speaker 1>And how trauma and sin become legal access in the

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01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:22.920
<v Speaker 1>body in like spirituality spiritual practices. When someone experiences or

837
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 1>participate in things like chronic fear, violence, sexual abuse, betrayal, addiction, abandonment,

838
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:38.840
<v Speaker 1>their body enters into I guess the best way is

839
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:42.360
<v Speaker 1>described it as a survival state. And that state is

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01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:48.400
<v Speaker 1>not emotional, it is physiological, and stress hormone surge and

841
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:53.840
<v Speaker 1>inflammation goes up, and the nervous system shifts into fight

842
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 1>or flight. We talk about this constantly, and those cinemical

843
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:04.079
<v Speaker 1>signals cause epigenetic changes that turns stress genes on, turn

844
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:09.119
<v Speaker 1>repair and growth genes off, and alter immune response, rewire

845
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:15.320
<v Speaker 1>emotional regulation. This is the same mechanism described by epigenetics. Right,

846
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 1>So DNA methylation and his stone changes they literally silence

847
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 1>or amplify specific genes. And I've kind of hit this

848
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:27.159
<v Speaker 1>part ad nauseum, but I need people to understand that

849
01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:34.880
<v Speaker 1>these things become inherited vulnerabilities. And when those stress coded

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01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:40.480
<v Speaker 1>epigenetic patterns reach reproductive cells, they can be passed on.

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01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:45.880
<v Speaker 1>That's that means children inherent not just DNA, but the

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01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.679
<v Speaker 1>way the DNA has been trained or behaved. This is

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01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:57.039
<v Speaker 1>why this is the mechanism, right and bog In biological terms,

854
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:03.119
<v Speaker 1>this looks like a curse in specific certain aspects, right,

855
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:08.039
<v Speaker 1>like when we talk about addiction and rage and depression

856
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and anxiety, autoimmune illnesses and abusive relationship patterns. Right, even

857
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 1>when children grow up in safe homes like like my kids,

858
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:24.599
<v Speaker 1>their bodies can still be turned tuned for danger. Why

859
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:29.800
<v Speaker 1>is that? And that's why? And that shocking? Like I

860
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:33.320
<v Speaker 1>had said just a second ago shocking looks like a curse,

861
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:37.760
<v Speaker 1>but people would just science just calls it epigenetic inheritance.

862
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Different language, same phenomena. I'm not saying that demons live

863
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:45.159
<v Speaker 1>and go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, no, I don't mean to interrupt you. I just

865
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:53.360
<v Speaker 3>was saying it's a great esoteric take on that biblical

866
01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:55.679
<v Speaker 3>and lesson if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm not saying like demons live in DNA, right,

868
01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:07.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that they live in DNA. I'm just

869
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:15.800
<v Speaker 1>saying that you're not claiming I'm not claiming that that

870
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 1>spiritual beings physically reside in chromosomes. Here, guys, what I

871
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:27.119
<v Speaker 1>am saying is that spiritual and emotional realities do change

872
01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:35.960
<v Speaker 1>biology through known pathways, period. And this is exactly what

873
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:42.559
<v Speaker 1>neuroscience shows through thoughts, beliefs, and emotional states. I mean,

874
01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:46.800
<v Speaker 1>we know that they alter cortisol levels and inflammation, all

875
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:50.159
<v Speaker 1>the things, brainwiring, gene expression, all of it. Right, So

876
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:56.880
<v Speaker 1>when scripture talks about repentance or healing or forgiveness and renewal,

877
01:05:57.639 --> 01:06:04.480
<v Speaker 1>dat aligns with biology. Period. These practices send new signals

878
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and signals to the body that can reverse epigenetic locks

879
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and restore function and where theology and neuroscience meet. The

880
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Bible says identity, truth and spiritual alignment bring freedom. Neuroscience

881
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:30.000
<v Speaker 1>says safety, regulation and coherence bring healing. Both point to

882
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the same outcome, restoration of the whole person. So spiritual

883
01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:42.039
<v Speaker 1>realities imprint biological outcomes because the human being is not

884
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:50.159
<v Speaker 1>divided into spiritual and physical has We are one integrated system.

885
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:55.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's frankly, what this is all about. And I

886
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:59.960
<v Speaker 1>need people, I really work to so people see that

887
01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:04.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever your beliefs are, at the end of the day,

888
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:11.719
<v Speaker 1>we're not separated things. We are we are integrated spiritual

889
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:15.079
<v Speaker 1>and physical beings in one I mean even.

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<v Speaker 2>That, I would just assume the technology we have could

891
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 2>force that to happen. We're looking at our phones in

892
01:07:22.159 --> 01:07:23.039
<v Speaker 2>the computer and the TV.

893
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why couldn't they Absolutely, you're just desensitized to it.

894
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:35.280
<v Speaker 2>You can be flipping switches, so you could be flipping

895
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:36.760
<v Speaker 2>keys all day looking at the TV.

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01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And there's a whole pattern change that looking at

897
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:49.719
<v Speaker 3>the phones is actually causing on young people's bodies. They're

898
01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:54.119
<v Speaker 3>getting like a certain curvature in their upper back or

899
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:56.679
<v Speaker 3>neck bound because they spend so much time.

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01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I probably have not you a right.

901
01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh what, well, a lot of people get it

902
01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:08.760
<v Speaker 3>just by we all are dealing with gravity, right, and uh,

903
01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:13.559
<v Speaker 3>you know we should a Taichi recommendation just practice standing

904
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:16.880
<v Speaker 3>in alignment every once in a while. It's kind of

905
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:19.960
<v Speaker 3>a powdered changer. But but young people, yeah, they're like

906
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:24.119
<v Speaker 3>almost developing a physically different bone.

907
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

908
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so for sure, set set good patterns.

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01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, I mean you can get I can get

910
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:42.800
<v Speaker 1>deep into this stuff too, where you bring up mm hmm,

911
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.199
<v Speaker 1>bringing in stuff like the mark of the beast, like

912
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:51.960
<v Speaker 1>what is that you know, things along those lines. Uh,

913
01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you know that's chrispher decade. It could be all kinds

914
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.279
<v Speaker 1>of ship. But I don't really want to go down

915
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:02.880
<v Speaker 1>that rabbit hole. No, but but you could. I mean,

916
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:08.039
<v Speaker 1>in all honesty, it's uh so yeah, man, I think

917
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:09.760
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I think this is

918
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the type of knowledge that makes people understand that first off,

919
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:19.760
<v Speaker 1>we don't know shit, second off, that we really need

920
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:23.119
<v Speaker 1>to be more open minded than we are as a species,

921
01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and just knock it off. Knock it off, Like I'm

922
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:31.319
<v Speaker 1>not trying to be all kumbayah, right, but enough, you

923
01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:34.439
<v Speaker 1>see all this nonsense going on all over the freaking

924
01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:40.520
<v Speaker 1>planet that and ninety percent of it doesn't matter. So

925
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I agree, and we argue about the dumbest shit. So

926
01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I just I Yeah, my one of my daughters is

927
01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like a reality TV junkie, and it's like, dude, what

928
01:09:57.199 --> 01:10:00.479
<v Speaker 1>hell are you doing? Like you can? Oh you know

929
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:03.000
<v Speaker 1>how you're so smart? Like what are you doing?

930
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:06.399
<v Speaker 2>So you know how twisted ship's got? You got fucking

931
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:11.039
<v Speaker 2>the left actually video recording themselves shooting guns and holding guns. Now,

932
01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:14.239
<v Speaker 2>how the fuck did you get yourself get there from

933
01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:15.159
<v Speaker 2>a few months ago.

934
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so bizarre. And the ship we fight over. Yeah,

935
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I dude, I was this professional I'll be honest,

936
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:28.800
<v Speaker 1>which people that know me know I was a professional

937
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:32.720
<v Speaker 1>soldier for my entire adult life until in one former

938
01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:37.640
<v Speaker 1>fashion for you know, a full thirty years of my life.

939
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:44.000
<v Speaker 1>And enough I've seen enough for everywhere. Yeah, it's disgusting.

940
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:47.119
<v Speaker 1>It's just disgusting and it's gross and people need to

941
01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:47.840
<v Speaker 1>knock it off.

942
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:52.720
<v Speaker 2>And I really getting like the really good look at

943
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:53.840
<v Speaker 2>its ugliest side.

944
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's so horrific man that I just can't. I

945
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't participate in the bullshit as much. I I

946
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:08.239
<v Speaker 1>just try to like do research, write books on spiritual

947
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:10.239
<v Speaker 1>warfare and like just trying to help people and like

948
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:16.560
<v Speaker 1>plant seeds in their minds out how ridiculous so much

949
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:19.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff is and that. Yeah, some of the stuff I

950
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:21.439
<v Speaker 1>talk about it's ridiculous too. Some of the ship that

951
01:11:21.479 --> 01:11:24.239
<v Speaker 1>we talk about on this show and others is just

952
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:30.920
<v Speaker 1>absolute insanity. But it's like, you know, I at least

953
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:31.960
<v Speaker 1>some of it could matter.

954
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:35.840
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's ideas.

955
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you know, we're talking about saving the world.

956
01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:44.279
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about solving all the world's problems. I don't know, man,

957
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't have the answers. I just

958
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:52.199
<v Speaker 1>I just I want to be the best human I

959
01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:57.840
<v Speaker 1>can be, So yeah, and help others do the same.

960
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:04.479
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Yeah, alright, we if you if you want,

961
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:06.359
<v Speaker 2>we can probably wrap it up now too, if you like.

962
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm cool with that. I've kind of said everything

963
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:13.479
<v Speaker 1>that I need to say. This is a shorter episode,

964
01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:14.840
<v Speaker 1>but oh no, that's fine.

965
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:16.439
<v Speaker 2>I believe me. Sometimes I wish I could.

966
01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:18.880
<v Speaker 1>We don't need to drag it out. I think I think,

967
01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:22.199
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, yeah, the other rabbit hole I just don't

968
01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:25.880
<v Speaker 1>want to go down. It's just people get Yeah, it

969
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:27.399
<v Speaker 1>triggers people too, So.

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01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:31.279
<v Speaker 3>It's a very inspiring idea of Ben. Thank you for

971
01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:32.560
<v Speaker 3>sharing that and thank you for.

972
01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Listening.

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01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, guy, you can't get some absoluteating in.

974
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:49.239
<v Speaker 2>The uh there he is there. Oh wait wait wait.

975
01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm sorry. I was saying, I was saying, it's

976
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.800
<v Speaker 3>am I am I on now. Yeah, it's it's such

977
01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:01.560
<v Speaker 3>a great lesson you puts forth and I love how

978
01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:06.279
<v Speaker 3>you encapsulate it with the Christian lesson correspondence too. It's

979
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:08.439
<v Speaker 3>really really powerful, beautiful.

980
01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:10.000
<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the day, I don't it

981
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:11.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be Christian. You can look at it

982
01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:15.760
<v Speaker 1>through any lens that you want, whichever you know, uh

983
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:21.239
<v Speaker 1>lens you want to look at it. Sure, it's incorporated.

984
01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:24.359
<v Speaker 1>This is universal language here, folks. And that's what I

985
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:27.520
<v Speaker 1>need people to see is that all of our bullshit

986
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:32.199
<v Speaker 1>speaks the same fucking language. Stop trying to transfer it

987
01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:34.239
<v Speaker 1>to something that's not. So.

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01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:39.119
<v Speaker 3>It's just a great take on the Covenant idea and

989
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:42.119
<v Speaker 3>and all the curses and the healing. It's a it's

990
01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:45.039
<v Speaker 3>a it's a great uh series of lessons.

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01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it.

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01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank thanks for coming guys, Thanks for letting me on

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01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Electric head. I appreciate it.

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01:13:56.079 --> 01:13:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I would even say, just when it comes to DNA,

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01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:00.199
<v Speaker 2>I would even think that's such a huge sys. I

996
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:02.000
<v Speaker 2>think it occultism that people don't realize.

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01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, so.

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01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I do think there's a cult science. And if it's

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01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:07.319
<v Speaker 2>if it's in ocultism, that could also be like numbers

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01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:09.760
<v Speaker 2>and should have been involved, you know, I could see

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01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:13.960
<v Speaker 2>how Yeah, I think, well that's uh, it all ties in.

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01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Believe it's all because every all the ship man, all

1003
01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the practices, all the things, they all rhyme. Dude, I

1004
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:25.159
<v Speaker 1>say this ad nauseum over and over and over again.

1005
01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:32.520
<v Speaker 1>They all rhyme. They're all coming from the same freaking place. Guys. Sorry,

1006
01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:35.319
<v Speaker 1>They're all coming from whatever you want to call it.

1007
01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:37.680
<v Speaker 1>They're all coming from the same place.

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01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yep. All right, So, uh, before we wrap it up

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01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:46.479
<v Speaker 2>before Ethan falls off again because we lose them, do

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01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:48.039
<v Speaker 2>you want to I want to let everybody know where

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01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:48.920
<v Speaker 2>that can find you at. Sir.

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01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, well, I appreciate it, thanks for putting up on

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01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:58.720
<v Speaker 3>my poor I really really appreciate those ideas. And I'm

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01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:02.600
<v Speaker 3>easy to find on the internet, writing books and frequently

1015
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:07.640
<v Speaker 3>and sharing articles frequently. And I'm gonna drop one on

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01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Occult Research Institute here soon. In correspondence with the reading

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01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:15.800
<v Speaker 3>and great lessons to you and headless are doing for

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01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 3>the seven seven seven book, I have a seven seven

1019
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:25.880
<v Speaker 3>seven arithmetic equation that I'm going to share on the

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01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Occult Research Institute here soon. And so and I do writing,

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01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:34.960
<v Speaker 3>and like I said, occasional research when the gravity of

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<v Speaker 3>the mundanity of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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01:15:39.680 --> 01:15:42.159
<v Speaker 3>So appreciate you, guys, perfect.

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01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Thanks, you made it. I made it all right. Thank

1026
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:47.520
<v Speaker 2>you so much, Ethan. I definitely appreciate you coming on.

1027
01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:50.800
<v Speaker 2>You always have great questions and great stuff to add. Betty.

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01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Please let everybody know what's up with you.

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01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Where they can find all yeah, so again, Broadcasting seeds

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01:15:56.199 --> 01:16:01.439
<v Speaker 1>dot com. You can find everything there or you know, Instagram,

1031
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:09.119
<v Speaker 1>YouTube all the things. And check out my book The

1032
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Boy you Didn't Know You Were in. You can buy

1033
01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:13.640
<v Speaker 1>it on Amazon. I mean, if you go through my

1034
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:17.359
<v Speaker 1>website it's still Amazon. So it's what you were getting

1035
01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:21.079
<v Speaker 1>at earlier, Nick, But you know, you might just like it.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know, But check out Broadcasting Seeds and come

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01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:30.800
<v Speaker 1>say hi. You know there's anybody out there that wants

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<v Speaker 1>to come on the show and talk about something. Just

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<v Speaker 1>reach out let me know, so Michae'll be on there

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<v Speaker 1>in a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a fun episode actually.

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<v Speaker 1>The second time that you were on there, but this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is way better than the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was really just saying I really really enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's where you can check me out. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course Nick and Ethan. Always good to see you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and I greatly appreciate shated what you do there. Cardinal.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, thanks try, thank you. Yeah, man, I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>all coming on. I guess with the people listening, we

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<v Speaker 2>also got Headless is doing his thing tonight, the mailbag

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<v Speaker 2>and the symbols, so keep an eye out for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's at eight thirty, and then I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have Metimistics on at like ten o'clock tonight

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<v Speaker 2>Easton time, so check that out. Should it should be

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<v Speaker 2>on for that, If not, then it'll be over on

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<v Speaker 2>be over on Jewels Channel. But I'm pretty sure we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be doing it here, so in case people got nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do later on, we got two more logs coming

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<v Speaker 2>up actually, so fuck but thank you all and thank

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in the chat. That's what's up. That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>go live and until the next one, everybody be well

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<v Speaker 2>later
