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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to GV side Quest. This is our

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weekly video game show here at GIEK Verse. I'm your host,

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Del Muls and I have with me the nineteen of

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eighties Taylor Field. How are you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 2: Doing good? Happy to be here on a wonderful new

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episode of side Quest.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is. I'm very excited for this episode.

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I think we have a lot of fun topics. We've

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got some news, a couple game announcements that kind of

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came out of nowhere, but our game's coming out this year.

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We have some games we've been playing, and then we

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have a fun main topic as well, talking about Xbox

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and achievements and all that sort of fun stuff. So yeah,

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it should be a good episode. Just one quick shout

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out here at the beginning, which is that over the

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weekend I participated in a game jam, which is essentially

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you have the allotted amount of time to make a

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game from start to finish, and so I was able

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to do that. I made a game called Space Displays

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and you can check it out. It's a free game.

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It's a space kind of top down sort of thing.

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You're flying around, You're shooting some asteroids that kind of thing. Uh,

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the theme of the game Jam Taylor was built to scale,

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so it's kind of like you're supposed to mess with

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the scale of things, either things really big or small

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or things change in size and whatnot. And so what

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I decided to do is I I made the main

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mechanic of the game is you you know, your arrow

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keys that moves your ship around. But then the wasd's

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you can change the size of the window, like the

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game window that you're playing it on, so you're kind

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of shrinking the screen and making the screen bigger, and

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that will make certain levels easier in that sort of thing.

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So it's kind of a fun, weird idea. But yeah,

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the game is out now. You can go check it

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out on itch dot io. I'll put a link in

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the description, but you can also just search space displace

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on Itch or you can just I guess even search

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my name on itch dot io. Just wrapatika and you

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can download it there. So that was a pretty cool experience.

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I you know, haven't made a lot of games, and

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so trying to make one in in one weekend is

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pretty crazy. But you know, it's a small little thing

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you can beat in like a minute or two so yeah, do.

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Speaker 2: You have to like think about the concept beforehand? Do

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you get any like like downtime to kind of like

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start prepping and doing notes and stuff like do you

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get to do anything like prep work or is it no?

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Friday night is when the term the competition starts. That's

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when you're allowed to start working on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, technically they say like you shouldn't make anything any

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art or any code or anything before it starts, like

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you shouldn't have done anything on it. There might be

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exceptions to that, Like I don't know for this game,

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for example, there's a couple of things I've coded for

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other games that I was able to like kind of

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like reuse, so I rewrote them, but it's like, oh,

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I kind of already made that thing before that does

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this particular feature, So I don't know, there's a little

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bit of that comes into it. But you're kind of

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supposed to make everything from scratch. But yeah, like Friday

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morning is when the theme is announced and they're like, go,

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you have until Monday at midnight to post it up there.

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So it's really like you could spend as much time

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thinking and planning as you want, but then it's like

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you know, you don't have as much time to develop

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a bit, so I know, I think I'm gonna do

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a short video kind of talking about the process because

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it was kind of interesting, just the breakdown of, like, man,

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I have such a little time. I worked on on

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my on my own too, so it's like, Okay, how

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much time do I want to spend on like music

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and sound effects and like art, Like could I just

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skip music if aunt of time? Like, you know, I

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don't need music in there. But I ended up getting

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everything that I wanted to and then some, so I'm

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pretty happy with it. I I out did myself for

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what I kind of had my expectations of. I've done

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one game job before. It was like a month long

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things that was very much different, and it was on

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a team, so this was a very different kind of experience.

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But uh yeah, I'll send you a link as well, Taylor.

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You should. You should check it out. It's kind of interesting.

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So yeah, that's my one shout out for now. We'll

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talk about some other things later, but let's just scar

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right into it here. With games that we have been playing,

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I just have one to shout out today, So I'm

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gonna go first here over the last few weeks, Taylor,

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I've been playing some Pokemon Emerald on the well, not

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on the Game Boy Advance, the Game Boy Advance cartridge.

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Have been playing on my DS. But I was at

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a at a flea market in Klona when I was

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in not Clone the most recent time, but at the

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start of July, and I went to do you ever

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go to the flea market there in Rutland On It's

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on Rutland Road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, yes, exactly the one.

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Speaker 1: There's like a few people there that sell used games

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and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: And this was not.

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Speaker 1: An original cartridge by any means, because it was like

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thirty bucks, but it was a I think it was

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like a remake replica. It's it's a really nice green cartridge.

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and bought that there, and uh, yeah, I've been playing

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that for a while. I think I'm like maybe ten

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fifteen hours in or something. It's it's interesting going back

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to this because I have played what is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Omega Ruby? Was the three DS.

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Speaker 2: Remake Alpha Sapphire Omega Ruby, I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I played the the three DS Ruby version,

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and so Emerald is kind of like the third version

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from that generation right where it's kind of like the

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I don't know. It has features from both of the

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games and then some added things as well. But it's

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weird because I've played a later remake, so I'm going

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back to this one. But as like other features that

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that game doesn't have. It's also been a long time

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since I played that Ruby one, so it's interesting going

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back to this and just like, oh, I remember some

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of these Pokemon, don't remember other things, don't remember some

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of these story beats. Because you're an Emerald fan, right

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like I remember you talking about this one before.

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Speaker 2: I love Emerald, and then Sapphire is like my number one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you prefer Sapphire over Emerald, even though.

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Speaker 2: Surely for nostalgia.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I like that, you can admit that, because

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I was gonna say, I feel like everything I've I've

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looked into it is like Emerald just kind of has

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more than either individual version, so it's kind of like

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the best version. But yeah, the nostalgia definitely speaks true there.

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and I saw people talking about this too, is that

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is that there's a ton of team battles in the game,

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and in the wild in like gyms and stuff, you're

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doing a lot of that, And I really like that

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because it adds a little bit more variables to the battles,

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a little bit more chaos and like trying to planet

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who would be the best Pokemon for this given situation,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, also, I just the GBA.

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Speaker 1: The graphics is so perfect, like the limitations, the size,

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the pixel or the resolution, everything is so great. The colors.

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I just love the look of this game. So it's

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been really fun to, uh, to go through this kind

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of revisiting it, but kind of also experiencing this, you know,

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Emerald for the first time truly, So that's been a

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it's been a good time. When when's the last time

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you you booted up Emerald or played Emerald? It so

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hard was a nostalgia hit, like did you come to

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Emerald later or did you also have it kind of

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back in the day.

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Speaker 2: I got Emerald after the fact, I bought Ruby just

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so I could have it, and I actually have. It's funny.

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I have two copies of Ruby. I have this one

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that's actually not real so beautiful. This is one. Yeah,

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was trading in some old games that I had to

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guy who actually sells at that flea market might be

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the same guy. Honestly. His name is Matt and his

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garage he has. He has a goal and a dream.

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storely needs. Yes it does, but it's so expensive, so

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he hasn't done it yet. But he's turned his whole

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garage into the into the store. He's got shelves you

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go in games for days. He's got GameCube, game Boy like,

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he's got old consoles. It's so nice in there. I

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love seeing the games that he's got.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go check that out.

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Speaker 2: Next time. I will hook you up with his address.

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Super nice guy. He opens up on weekends. I went.

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cards and I was looking into Pokemon cards and so

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this is a fake. He showed me how to identify it.

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I was like, oh my god, he's like here, I

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got all these ones that are faked. I got all

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these ones that are legit ones. He had fake heart

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gold and sold silver ones for the DS. But anyways,

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last time I played Emerald was definitely a good fair

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bit of time ago. But I remember in elementary school,

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me and my friend he had Ruby and he had ooh,

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me his game Boy and I had mine. So I

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just game Boy for a weekend, traded his Pokemon to

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my Emerald, and then an Emerald I was able to

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clone because Emerald had we get to the after you

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beat the Elite four, you get to this battle tower area,

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and if you use the computer terminal in this Pokemon

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of steps and actually clone Pokemon. And so I cloned

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his crowd On so he could have his groud On.

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I could get groud On and he wouldn't win another

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big dude, that's the red guy. Yeah. Yeah, so there

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah. I mean when it comes to these

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Pokemon games, like they're they're so expensive. Whenever I go

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to game stores and so I'm like, I don't really

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care about having an original one. I just wanted to

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play the game, so I was fine to get like

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a what is obviously like a knockoff, not on original cartridge.

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that place out. I mean, I should probably limit myself

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because I could easily spend one hundreds of dollars when

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I don't I don't really need to, but yeah, I

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don't know, it's just like a nice background thing. I

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haven't played a Pokemon game in a bit, and yeah,

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I just love the GBA, so I'm down for anything

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on that generation.

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Speaker 2: So that's been a good time.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's the only shout out I

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have for today, because really I've just been other.

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Speaker 2: Than that, just playing a lot of Mad Max. Still.

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Speaker 1: You should if you did ever play that game when

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it came out.

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Speaker 2: I never it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun. I'm just enjoying going through that.

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in the last few weeks here?

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Speaker 2: So I have I indulged in two games. One was

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again because when the Gears of War E Day was announced,

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it kind of motivated me to get into Gears of

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War five and get back into that game, which that

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was a lot of fun. That was a lot of

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fun to actually just it's such a smooth game. It

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feels so polished, and to be able to take those

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mechanics and put that back into like that original vibe

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that that game has with Marcus and uh, oh my gosh,

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I can I remember? Uh? Cat? Domm okay? Marcus? Cat?

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Speaker 1: They the name of the other character in the new

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Speaker 2: Did I make that hat? I think that is the

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out of touch with like the modern story because they've

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it's and it's weird because they brought like the o

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then you got like this next generation of characters that

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are working with them. Uh yeah, but it's it's good.

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It's good. But the main one I wanted to shout

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out was the Carlysto protocol and this one is it

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was just something I've been waiting to dip my toes into.

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I did not want to buy this game by any means.

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I really wanted to it seems like not a lot

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of people did. Yeah, that's true, and so games pass

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was the answer. So once it popped up on there,

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I downloaded it, and I really appreciate how tense it is.

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way that things are going on around you, as this

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world just kind of falling apart. You're on this prison planet.

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I don't know have you played it?

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Speaker 1: I have not. The reason I reacted is because, for

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spoiler for our main topic, I was looking through your

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achievements that you have and I saw that you had

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a couple popped in Closto protocol. Was like, I don't

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when did Taylor play this game? So I wanted to

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ask you about it. So that's very funny that you

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bring it up here. But yeah, I've not even really

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played dead Space. I've watched a lot of Dead Space,

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like I remember watching Sarrus play it through a bunch

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of it. But yeah, I'm not too familiar with these games.

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I did see that closeos on there, and I think

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I've kind of slotted it mentally for October and the

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spooky season when I'm looking to play some more horror games,

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some scary games. But no, I haven't jumped into it yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's I wanted to make the comparison

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to Dead Space, and that's something that I just I

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can't do. But I play a little bit of dead Space,

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and for me, dead Space is the one that I

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would pitch over this this one. Definitely. Obviously there are

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similarities between these two franchises, but this one just felt

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like it got super repetitive. Now. I enjoyed, as I said,

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the aesthetic and just the story being trapped in this

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prison and you're trying to get out and there's just

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all this crazy mutated grossness going on, but yeah, it

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just feels like it is easily repetitive when I'm going

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through different motions. But I do enjoy the mechanics, and

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I'm not sure how the Dead Space games really incorporate

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many of these mechanics, but you can, like you have

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the police that were operating the prison guards had this

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like risk device thing where they could pick you up

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with you like using the force like a Jedile rules.

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makes you restrained to them and gives them kind of control,

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and then you can upgrade your weapons, your melee weapon

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or your gun you can be upgrading, and so it's

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a lot of fun when you're going around and you're

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just moving objects around or like force pushing these guys

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or you're like yeah, smashing them with your baton or

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using your your pistol, and yeah, there's just there's certain

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things that are a lot more difficult and more combat

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oriented that I don't like in this game. And I

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don't say that because it's difficult. I just don't like

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the idea of like, oh, you're going down this gondola

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and you got three bad guys just like you're rain

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shooting you with like their asset, spit or whatever, and

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then you just you appear in front of them and

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you just got to go into a full on fight.

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I like it when it's sneaking around and you're trying

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to like decapitate, not to capitate, take them out silently

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and sneakily, and just be more of like a horror game.

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And I think that's where a lot of people didn't

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like Dead Space three because it kind of turned into

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more of an action center game. Yeah, so this has

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those little beats in it, and I don't think it

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needs that it's a little too simple, but yeah, I'm

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still playing through it, and I am I'm having fun

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with what I'm doing, so yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember big thing with the trailers. They were just

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showing all the brutal ways that won you can get

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killed and like the just really gory deaths, almost like

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Mortal Kombat esque. But then also yeah, like the ways

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you can rip apart the enemies, and so I yeah,

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maybe it's something that's more like style over substance and

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that they it all looks really cool when you're ripping

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enemies apart and even when you're getting taken out, but

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the actual mechanics are are pretty simple. It's a oh sorry,

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I was gonna ask about the story and what you

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think about the general vibe, because that's why that was

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really interesting to me as well, even just the setting

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being on what is close to a moon of Saturn

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Jupiter one of those two, which is a cool setting.

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Speaker 2: So I think I told you guys this story because

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Travis is there too. We're at the beach and it's

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quite because the game starts off where you're a pilot,

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you're doing transporting cargo, and then like some explosions happen

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and your pilot like blacks out and then he wakes

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up and he's in prison on this on this prison planet.

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And it was super super late at night when I

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first download this, I'm pretty sure was after like a

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Call of Duty session, so it was already like two

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thirty or three. I was like, I want to download

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this game. I downloaded it and I was going through

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the first starting little cut scenes and like I was

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passing out and I woke up when he woke up

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in his prison bed and his character literally is like

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I don't remember what happened, what's going on? I'm like, fuck,

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I don't either.

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Speaker 1: Super immersive, super.

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Speaker 2: Immersive, Yeah, but I think it's it's it's a really

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really cool setting. And when you walk out of the prison,

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everything's like exploding and destroying. You can see other levels,

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prisoners running, you can see like the creatures running around too.

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It's it's super freaky nice. Yes.

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Speaker 1: I think Dead Space remake is also on game Pass

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now right, Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to jump into that instead? Considering you're

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not super enjoying this experience.

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Speaker 2: I want to commit and beat this one. I do

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have Dead Space. I think one through three, whether it

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was games with gold or whatever. I know, I have

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all three of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess two and three are probably even just

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through a play still available on game Pass anyway. Yeah, yeah, nice.

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Any other things you've been playing or is that in

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the shoutouts for today?

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Speaker 2: I think of that, and yeah, just regular good old

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Rebirth Island. Just buying my time for Black Ops six,

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which is the first call d D. I'm not actually

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buying after many many moons because it's going on games Pass,

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I'm not going to buy it. And yeah, if it

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was a Modern Warfare sequel, I would drop that money

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and buy it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I am, well just because of the shelf,

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the collection aspect of it, completionist angle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well usually with Call Duty's I've just

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been buying digital versions and I bought the Modern Warfare

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ones because I like the incentives with the certain digital

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rewards that you could get with war Zone and there's

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not really a lot with this. And as much as

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I love the zombies experience, the Black Ops kind of

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has expanded it in a way like they're preaching like

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round based Zombies is backed bigger and better than ever,

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which I know a lot of people love. But they

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got a lot of the things like the gum drop

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machines and all this extra stuff that just kind of

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really pulls me out of it. I'm not super into it.

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I like the simple, old school Nazi zombies. That's kind

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of my jam. Or what Modern Warfare did with the

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open world aspect. I think that was a great refreshing

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take to the Zombies franchise. But I'm still gonna play it,

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and I hope we get Travis in there because I

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want to do some round zombies with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know if there is I'm sure there

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is something where like Redfall and Starfield had like their

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upgrade versions, you could spend like thirty or forty bucks,

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even if you already had game Pass, you could get

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this upgrade version that would for the Starfield that the

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Grandfather do you into the DLC? You gave you a

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couple of random collectibles for Red Fall was supposed to

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get you the DLC, but then they canceled it and

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then refunded everyone for that anyway, But does Black Ops

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have something like that that's not like, Okay, you're not

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buying the full game, but it's a way to squeeze

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like an extra twenty to forty bucks out of people

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like you who would you know, want to get all

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the extra content but don't need to buy the game

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because of the game pass angle up it.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, so you how does that work? Again? You don't

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you're not buying the game because you have it on

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games Pass. You're buying the uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're buying like what they call it. For Starfield

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they had some name for the Constellation Pack, I think,

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and so yeah, you got like a couple extra gun skins.

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It like it pretty much gives you the DLC. So

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it's almost like a season's pass sort of thing. For

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Red Fall is a similar thing as well, but it

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was like available day one. You could like pre order it,

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so that way you could there was still something for

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you to buy, even if you're playing it on game

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passes potentially right or like hardcore fans I.

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Speaker 2: Have, I guess Black Ops would be the first one

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to be doing that. I guess bought Over for three

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actually is the first quality because that's been officially released

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on games past now, but I have not seen that

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for Black Ops. At least when I go into my menus,

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I'm still prompted to pay like one seventy nine or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Right, I guess they still like if they have a

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season's pass already for those games, then there doesn't really

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make much sense to well some other random thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's what's interesting because I guess those

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other well I'm not sure about Red Fall because the

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DLC was canned, but at least with this, they don't

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do seasons passes anymore for cod right, it's just the

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battle passes, I guess. I guess so, yeah, because it

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would be uh, is this.

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Speaker 1: Are those seasons past things or the battle pass rather?

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Are those only for war Zone? Like? Is that the

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only No?

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Speaker 2: Because the guns multiplayer in general exactly everything multiplayer is

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what it's for, Like is there maps included in that?

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Or the maps alone? Now all the maps are are

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released with like at the beginning of a season and

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then like they do a mid season reloaded where they

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throw in new maps.

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Speaker 1: Or like cosmetics now and like quicker ways to level

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up kind of Yeah, right, okay, interesting?

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Speaker 2: Cool?

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Speaker 1: Well, moving on then, I just wanted this is probably

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gonna be a quick shout out, but I had to

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bring it up, which is that Amazon Video has announced

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that they are gonna be doing a anthology animated series

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called Secret Level that is gonna be based on a

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few video game ip and I got to bring it

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up because one of them that they announced is that

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they're making a Splunky animated not an animated show, but

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an animated episode. I guess for Spolunkie, even if it

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is ten minutes long, I will gladly take this, and

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I I cannot wait for it. So I don't I

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don't know what to really expect from this in general.

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I don't know the exact team, you know, who is

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making this show, but I just think it's a really

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fun idea. I think an anthology series for games is

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a great way for them to kind of test the

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waters and see what's successful, what people want to see.

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And it's a way for them to do smaller things too,

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because they don't have to commit this huge budget to

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something like Splunky, which would be a very risky animated

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show to pitch unless it had like a very very

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small budget. But they announced Splunky and New World, which

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is the Amazon MMO, so that one makes a lot

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of sense in terms of, oh, it's Amazon who's making this,

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They can kind of do this show. It kind of

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does some world building for their game, but then it

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also maybe brings people to their game, so that one

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makes a lot of sense. So it's weird to me

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that they announce New World and then also Splunky, but

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then none of the other games that are going to

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be involved in this. They just kind of tease that

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there's going to be PlayStation titles that are included in this.

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So a weird announcement to be sure, But man, I

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00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,839
can't wait for this Splunky thing. You know, it's Spunky

477
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,519
for people who haven't played it, which is a lot

478
00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:51,079
of people, Like there's not really a story, Like there

479
00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:54,039
is essentially like a context given to you for why

480
00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:56,759
you're going in these caves, but really the stories are

481
00:21:56,799 --> 00:22:00,240
just like you playing through it and having some fun

482
00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:02,759
experience or a story to tell about it. And so

483
00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:04,359
I feel like it is a perfect ground for that

484
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,960
where I don't really want them to even try and

485
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:09,799
retell what the basic story of the games is, Like

486
00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:12,880
I think they can just tell some random cave dive

487
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,759
exploring experience and have a good time with that. And

488
00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:18,519
there's a lot of goofy characters. I'm really really curious

489
00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:21,440
to see what the animation style is for this. I

490
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,359
think it's some of the same team behind Love, Death

491
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,799
and Robots, which is a beautiful show visually, and obviously

492
00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:30,119
each episode is a very very different art style, so

493
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,720
I think it doesn't really tell us what these episodes

494
00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:34,480
are gonna look like. I imagine New World would be

495
00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:37,680
a very realistic looking thing, but Splunky could go very

496
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,839
different directions. Even Splunky one and two, and then even

497
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,599
these original Splunky which is like full on eight bit

498
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,720
pixel art, all have very very different art styles to it,

499
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:48,519
so I'm really curious to see what they do. I

500
00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:50,640
hope they get Derek you, who's the creator of the

501
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,519
game who also does all the art. I hope they

502
00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:55,359
get him involved, even for just like concept art or

503
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,920
like base it off his art, because I would just

504
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,240
love to see that art that I love so much

505
00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:03,279
turned into an animated show. So I cannot wait for that.

506
00:23:04,319 --> 00:23:06,519
I'm no New World in spoln Ca aren't really your

507
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:09,880
cup of tea, But any PlayStation titles, in particular, any

508
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,079
characters or games or worlds that you would you would

509
00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:13,079
want to see covered in this.

510
00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 2: PlayStation world. As an Xbox guy, it's like a little

511
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,839
big planet.

512
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Speaker 1: That's a great idea, I see, that's the kind of

513
00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:27,759
thing I want to see because we know death Stranding

514
00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:30,720
thing is happening. Ghost of Sushima has like a movie happened,

515
00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:32,720
and death Stranding has did I say that won Her

516
00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:36,000
Horizon has some movie like we already had Twisted Metal,

517
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:39,200
Uncharteds already happening, Last of Us, like all these things,

518
00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:42,000
I think about it. Goddamn, there's so many PlayStation things

519
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,319
I've already been or are in the process of getting

520
00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:46,759
their shows and or movies, and so I hope this

521
00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:49,839
is a situation where like, Okay, let's aim, let's aim

522
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,680
a bit slower is ro Did God of War get

523
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,000
an announcement too? I forget if that one has been announced,

524
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:55,880
but it just feels.

525
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: Like one of those ones that should be.

526
00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 1: But if it hasn't, like that, that's not even one

527
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,759
I would want to see here. I think a Little

528
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:05,400
Big Planet is a perfect pick for this, because once again,

529
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,839
the storytelling could be absolutely whatever. And if it's if

530
00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:11,079
it is love to throw Abalt's ESQ and it's like

531
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,880
a ten to fifteen minute episode, potentially, I think that's

532
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,480
the kind of thing you you would need, and that obviously,

533
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,559
you know, a little Big Planet they always had like

534
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,599
character crossovers too, so that could be a fun way

535
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:23,079
where you could have like a sack Boy Aloy or

536
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,319
a sack Boy Krados or something that could also be Astrobot,

537
00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:29,119
I guess, And I think Astrobot would be another one

538
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,759
that would be really good and fitting for the scale

539
00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:35,400
of this thing is looking to be. And those make

540
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,680
more sense for like this kind of animated style too,

541
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,160
I think. So, I don't know, I'm hopeful for this,

542
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,039
and I think because Amazon did what's the superhero show

543
00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:47,519
called Invincible, right, and people seem to love that, So

544
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,440
I think that that's a good sign for the team

545
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,400
behind this. But yeah, any any other thoughts on this one.

546
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,359
We don't have much information on yet. I just had

547
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,359
to bring it up because of the because of this

548
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,839
spilunky factor of course.

549
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,799
Speaker 2: No, I just I think it's it's good more more

550
00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:04,519
animated projects. Yeah.

551
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: I know these aren't technically PlayStation anymore, but I still

552
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,279
associate Crash and Spiro with.

553
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:12,799
Speaker 2: With PlayStation and I would love to see uh see.

554
00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: I hon to say, I would even take another twisted

555
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,160
metal thing that is more cartoony and silly and like animating,

556
00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:22,920
just like a different I didn't ever watch the show,

557
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,319
so it it's hard for me to comment on the

558
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:26,279
tone of it. But something that is just like a

559
00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:31,319
simple little like just one battle from Twisted Metal, like

560
00:25:31,559 --> 00:25:33,279
from one of the games, but turned into like a

561
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:35,960
fifteen minute like Mad Max asque like huge battle, that

562
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,079
would be sick like that, that would be so much.

563
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,720
You don't have to worry about a story. It's just

564
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,799
it's just cars attacking each other. You know. That seems perfect.

565
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,079
So I'm very curious to see more of this. I

566
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:47,559
don't know when this thing is gonna come out next

567
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,079
year maybe that would probably make sense, maybe even the

568
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,519
year after, so we will see what happens with that.

569
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:55,480
But that's a pretty cool announcement. Moving on a couple

570
00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:00,319
of game announcements. Actually, let's do that after our first break.

571
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,880
But first, I don't know, Taylor, what is the best

572
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way for someone to support this podcast if they like

573
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lights on?

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Speaker 2: Well, you need to have an internet connection and you

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got to type in www dot patreon dot com. Oh

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break that also hos. But the better way is to

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go to Patreon. You get right, after you go to

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Geekers Podcasts.

584
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so go there. You can get episodes early and

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You can join in our after nine show, which we

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do once a month. We had a fun discussion on

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the weekend, everyone talking about just the summer movies that

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they've been seeing and everyone's thoughts on Alien and fun

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the latest gaming news and shows and movies that we're

595
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seeing and watching. And I don't know what's going on

596
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this we we got a newscast this week. We just

597
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did Alien Romulus review. That's up now for everyone who

598
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listened to Isolation, go check out that review.

599
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Speaker 2: What else is dropping on the fees this week?

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Speaker 1: Alien rankings, Alien rankings, Yeah, that should be a good time.

601
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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you including Isolation in any of your rankings?

602
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:27,759
Or do you. I mean, I could probably slide it

603
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:31,359
in there. I mean, why not you and me retro

604
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,440
in the game. I wasn't initially, but you mentioned I

605
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,440
think I could. It feels worthy?

606
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,559
Speaker 1: Why not?

607
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Cool?

608
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Speaker 1: Well there you go. Now we're gonna throw it to

609
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the other ad break and we'll be right back. Okay,

610
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,839
we are back. Let's talk about a couple game announcements here,

611
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,759
all things that stem from the world of movies and

612
00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,119
TVs getting some crossovers here. So first up is the

613
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,759
this studio by the name of Retro Realms has two

614
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:07,160
games coming out. A Halloween game, you know, like the

615
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:13,319
movie Halloween, and then also Ash versus Evil Dead games specifically,

616
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:15,480
I think they're specifically calling it that, like based on

617
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,079
the TV show rather than just like Evil Dead as

618
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,640
a series, although Ash is a playable character here, of course.

619
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,160
And so these are two retro kind of like sixteen

620
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:30,640
bit art style sort of games, retro style two D platformers,

621
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,799
maybe hack and slashy bit of like a beat them

622
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,400
up type game. And the idea here is that both

623
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,599
these games are coming out at the same time. You

624
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:39,480
can buy either one of them for like twenty five

625
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:42,319
thirty bucks. Or you can buy them as a combo

626
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,039
pack together and then you can like cross stuff over

627
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,000
so you can play his ash in the Halloween game,

628
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:50,480
or vice versa with what's the guy from Halloween? I

629
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:54,599
just forget these characters' names. Michael Myers, Yeah, Michael Myers,

630
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,359
thank you, Freddie Jason, I, I don't know where these

631
00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,599
people come from, So yeah, it's interesting. I think the

632
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,119
trailer for this looked great, Like I think the art

633
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,960
style looks fantastic. I don't know how fun the gameplay

634
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,640
is gonna be, Like, it looks pretty basic. I think

635
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,599
if you're really deep into these ip it'd be really fun.

636
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,160
I'm sure there's tons of references in there in fun unlocks,

637
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,839
and really just the aesthetics are top notch. But what

638
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:18,559
did you what do you think of these the trailer

639
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,000
for these combo of games?

640
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the as you said, the aesthetic, it

641
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:24,480
was a lot of fun. Then it was really really

642
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:29,880
nice Visually deciding if both games are gonna be very

643
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,759
different from each other, I don't know. I guess it

644
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,839
really depends as a fan what aesthetic you are looking for,

645
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,640
what you prefer. I don't I don't know how well

646
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,680
it's gonna do though, if you were to buy both

647
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,200
of them. That being said, it works for Pokemon because

648
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,759
they sell like well, I don't know.

649
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:49,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can look at Pokemon for

650
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:50,799
how well this is gonna do.

651
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,039
Speaker 2: But I like the comparison. At least I would love

652
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,200
to actually try it and play it, but I don't

653
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,359
know if I would be able to justify dropping the

654
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,759
dollars and and buying it. But I do love the

655
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680
crossover idea. I think that's a lot of fun, especially

656
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,759
because they're two very different universes. To just pitch together

657
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:12,559
and put Ash inside the Halloween universe, that's a lot

658
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:16,200
of fun and vice versa Michael Myers. And again there's

659
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:18,920
there's Prude or DLC, which is pretty cool. So to me,

660
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:22,839
that shows that, Okay, maybe there's some future kind of

661
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:25,319
content they're going to be expanding with with this game.

662
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:27,000
But I just wear like, okay, how short is it?

663
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:30,000
Is it gonna be super repetitive? What is the main

664
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:32,359
goal in here? Like? What do you get? What do

665
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,319
you get when you get to the end of the game, right,

666
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,240
mm hmm.

667
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm curious to see how these things do.

668
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,440
I think it's like sixty bucks Canadian like plus tax

669
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,319
to get both of these things. So it does feel

670
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,440
kind of steep for what these games are. Maybe they

671
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,799
are extensive, but they just don't look that extensive to me.

672
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:54,880
They do seem pretty basic. I do compare a little

673
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,680
bit to the TM and T game that came out

674
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,400
a couple of years ago that had a lot of multiplayer,

675
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,440
which I think was where a lot of the fun

676
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,799
came from Shredder's Revenge that game, but I really enjoyed that,

677
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:06,839
and I don't really like that genre. So I do

678
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,160
feel like this is kind of in that same pocket,

679
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,599
and it seems like that same kind of developer love

680
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,599
nostalgia angle that they're going for here could really work.

681
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,960
The crossover stuff's great. You mentioned the pre order bonus.

682
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,759
I think what it is is you get Lori, who's

683
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:23,960
like Jamie Lee Curtis's character from Halloween right in there,

684
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,880
and then character from the Ashvers's Evil the TV show,

685
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,839
which I haven't seen, so I didn't recognize the character,

686
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:32,200
which is, you know, a little like I would have preferred,

687
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,920
I kind of forget her name, but from like Fede's

688
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Hallel Dead, your name was Kelly Yeah, wow, that's I

689
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:43,799
don't know why I didn't. I didn't expect it to

690
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:45,440
be Kelly for some reason, though I did watch that

691
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,160
movie recently. But yeah, I don't know, I like I

692
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,359
would have preferred something like that. But it does seem

693
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:52,000
like more characters are coming down the road, and I

694
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:54,720
don't know if they're gonna Nicklandmas for all of these

695
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:59,000
additional characters. It seems like maybe they will, So I

696
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,359
don't know. I don't know if I've been of love

697
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,839
for these series to want to drop the as you mentioned,

698
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:05,680
like the dollars for this particular thing, but I think

699
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,119
it's just really cool and I hope these games do well.

700
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,000
And if they come out in October, I honestly could

701
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,240
see myself just impulse buying them because of the season,

702
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,279
the season of it. So they are supposed to come

703
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,440
out this year, which is interesting. So yeah, those those

704
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,319
look interesting. They look all right. We'll keep an eye

705
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:24,359
on those. And then the other one was this game

706
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,319
just announced today or yesterday. It's called Kong Survivor Instinct,

707
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:33,279
and this is a game set in the kind of

708
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,920
Kong universe, of course, where you play as a You

709
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,519
play as a little guy you play as a survivor,

710
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:39,640
a regular human, and you're kind of going through what

711
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,759
looks very much like a post apocalyptic type of world, Like,

712
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,240
seems like there's very few people in this world you're

713
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:47,319
kind of going through, and it seems like the general

714
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:49,240
idea here is that there's the name of this big

715
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:51,839
spider Kaiju character.

716
00:32:52,160 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: Oh, Cilia Celia.

717
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: That sounds that name sounds too nice for how disgusting

718
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:06,319
this monster is.

719
00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: It's s c y L l A. I don't know

720
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:12,960
how you pronounced that.

721
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: Celia Celia Celia, So yeah, Celia. Therefore, it seems to

722
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,440
be the kind of main antagonist in this so you're

723
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:24,119
kind of having to dodge Celia's attacks, big strikes, crashing

724
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,799
buildings on top of you, that kind of thing. And

725
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:27,359
it seems like Kong is going to come in here

726
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,039
and save the day, help you out Knox the the

727
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,480
other way. And I'm guessing at some point, like because

728
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:35,319
Kong is very very narrowly in this trailer, even in

729
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,119
the first place, but it kind of seems like it

730
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:40,519
would be a bond that you're building between your character

731
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,480
and Kong, and I don't know what Kong has to

732
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:44,519
do with your character and why you'd want to protect him.

733
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:46,960
But I'm guessing at some points, like Kong will lift

734
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,240
you up onto some building or move you around. It

735
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,400
doesn't seem like you'd ever control Kong in this game.

736
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,319
Seems like you are supposed to be this, this survivor character,

737
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,960
this human. But what did you think of this trailer

738
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,799
for this game?

739
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,319
Speaker 2: I was not expecting it. It kind of caught me

740
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,599
by surprise. I'm just gonna say it might not be Silla,

741
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,159
might be Koumonga, might be.

742
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:15,159
Speaker 1: The other spider spiders Chet Spiders.

743
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:22,199
Speaker 2: I think that the gameplay mechanic looks pretty interesting and

744
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,119
something that I was not anticipating. I know where I

745
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:28,719
stand when it comes to a Godzilla game. I know

746
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,880
exactly what I want. I was sharing that in the

747
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,480
discord earlier. But as far as I'm concerned, this is

748
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,679
something that I would still be interested in trying. It

749
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,199
seems like it's got a cool story to or your

750
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,599
guy trying to track down your daughter who is supposedly missing.

751
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,719
And I'm I'm I was a big fan of the

752
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,360
Monarch show, and so these expanded stories that take place

753
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,880
outside of the main movies, I do find them interesting

754
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,960
and engaging, and so this being for whatever reason, it's

755
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,599
after Godzilla versus Kong, and so Kong is back on

756
00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:00,079
the surface and he's fighting a little bit, and it

757
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,039
almost looked like your character when you entered the boss fight,

758
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:07,440
like he he activated or I don't know, if it's

759
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,719
something you could just pull out of your your pull

760
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,440
out from thin air whatever you need, like if your

761
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,719
ability's charged up and you can just summon Kong or

762
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,159
something like that by activating on a device or something

763
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,239
or rather, I'm not sure, but that's how it felt

764
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,559
to me, and the trailer. Maybe it was specifically just

765
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:24,760
a cut scene for this battle sequence to unfold, but

766
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,559
I'm curious where Godzilla falls into play, if he will

767
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:32,159
in here. But it was titled a Kong game, So

768
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,000
this is definitely, in my opinion, to step up from

769
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,360
that Skull Island fucking nightmare game that we got, a.

770
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,119
Speaker 1: Game that they just pooped out onto the East Shop

771
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:41,639
pretty much.

772
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, that and Sneaking or gall On, those two games

773
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:46,239
are a match made in heaven.

774
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for the right discount on Gollum. Even

775
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:51,800
seventy nine off that they've done is not enough for

776
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960
me to go to like five dollars or less. That's

777
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,199
because I'll when I'll buy it and finally check it out. Yeah,

778
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,760
this game is so that you said the setting. Why

779
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,599
does this game feel so post apocalyptic?

780
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: Is that?

781
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: Like, that's not the vibe I watched. I don't watch

782
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,519
all these movies, but I did watch its fucking icy

783
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:15,440
k What was the newest one Kingdom of ash No?

784
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,760
That was it one reviewed this year? What the hell

785
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,519
is that movie called?

786
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,679
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, The Godzilla and Kang The New Empire.

787
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:28,639
Speaker 1: The New Empire Empire such a bad subtitle. Yeah, I

788
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:32,239
was thinking I was mixing it up with Ghostbusters Frozen

789
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,400
Frozen Empire. That's where I was getting the ice from.

790
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:38,679
But like, it doesn't seem like a post apocalypse world

791
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,880
to me at all. So it was like, did the

792
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,360
vibe seem weird to you in this in this game

793
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,280
that it just looks like Last of Us the way

794
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,960
you're going through these destroyed buildings and there's you know,

795
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000
a couple uh kind of bandits that are fighting you,

796
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:55,119
but you're not like seeing other humans. Uh it kind

797
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:57,800
of it kind of did, But at the same time,

798
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,840
like this world I'm so used to seeing just to

799
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,679
destroyed cities and you're roaming around through destroyed areas, and yeah,

800
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,719
post apocalyptic, it's like a mass extinction event like that.

801
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,239
It's just like some people die, but it's not true.

802
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,079
Speaker 2: But and that's where I'm curious what the story is about,

803
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:16,960
because maybe this city where your daughter is missing is

804
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,159
like under lockdown because the Spider creature won't leave and

805
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:22,679
it's like taking over the city and Godzilla's not going

806
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:25,960
there to do anything. And that's why Kong kind of

807
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,039
just pops up to maybe save the city. Uh So,

808
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,800
I'm sure maybe there's some kind of tie in there,

809
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,880
and that's why it's so post apocalyptic because in the

810
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,400
show The Monarchs show, of course they were trying to

811
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,960
clean up San Francisco after the first movie, but it

812
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:46,480
still did feel post apocalyptic, like like they wouldn't let

813
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:50,840
just anybody into the city and there's yeah, there's slockdowns

814
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,960
and yeah, yeah, that's uh okay, that that makes sense.

815
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, because I think it is a cool setting.

816
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,320
It's just not what I was expecting for this.

817
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: I do think the if.

818
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: Anyone hasn't watched the trailer yet and you're just listening

819
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,880
to us, describe it like I do feel like visually

820
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:10,840
this game does look you know, lower budget. Graphically, it's

821
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,079
not quite as strong. It's not not a Triple A

822
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,159
game by any means, but I don't I don't think

823
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:18,519
there's anything wrong with that. I do think the gameplay

824
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:21,159
looks pretty cool. Actually, the way you're going through these environments,

825
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,039
it almost seemed a little bit immersive to me, like

826
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,679
there's different ways you can kind of figure out these

827
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:27,599
puzzles to get through these certain areas. It doesn' seem

828
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,719
like there's a lot of puzzle solving in terms of like, oh,

829
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,400
there's some rubble in your way, how are you gonna

830
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,000
get around it? Are you going to unlock this door

831
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,000
using explosives to blow open doors? I don't know, a

832
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:39,360
lot of cool little things in there, So I'm pretty

833
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,880
into it. Like this looks really fun to me. Once again,

834
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,760
it's a it's a price price tag thing. But this

835
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,639
is another game that announced just today coming out this year.

836
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,760
They like they have a twenty twenty four in the trailer,

837
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,320
so I'm curious when it's gonna come out. It just

838
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
feels like, I don't know, maybe that doesn't have a

839
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:58,840
huge marketing budget behind it, which would make sense if

840
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,320
it is a smaller game once, but I don't know.

841
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,760
I'm really liking to see like these these big ip,

842
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,639
these big movie ip being given to what I assume

843
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,599
are smaller teams who presumably love these characters and have

844
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,679
wanted to make games about these people, And are I

845
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,599
don't know, making something cool with it instead of that

846
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,199
calling Skull Island game that you mentioned, which just seemed

847
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:20,840
like a really lazy cash grab that was not even

848
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,719
a successful cash grab in the first place. So I'm

849
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,480
into this game. Do you do you think you are

850
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,920
gonna pick this one up? Like this is a day

851
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,480
one you gotta wait and see more? Is it a

852
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,559
wait and see the price?

853
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: Like? Where are you at with it? I need to

854
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:33,960
see the price. I would not, as much as I

855
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,719
would like to try it, I would not be rushing

856
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,239
day one for it if it was well, if it

857
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,679
was the right price, maybe, but I feel like this

858
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,039
is also something that could probably go on sale really

859
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,679
really fast, and so that makes me apprehensive.

860
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. And yeah, I looked at into the

861
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,519
studio that's making it I'm not familiar with, and I

862
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:57,360
didn't recognize anything that they've done before. So a little

863
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,280
bit of un them quantity, but I don't know. Hopefully

864
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,199
this game is pretty good. Once again, that was called

865
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,760
Kong Survivor Instinct and then I didn't actually put this

866
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,280
in our notes Tailor, but I'll just throw this at

867
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,079
you because I just saw this because it's a rumor,

868
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,199
but I saw a rumor that it looks like, well,

869
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:16,920
obviously Xbox Microsoft purchased Activision, and along with Activision there

870
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,000
is a ton of random ass license games from back

871
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:21,440
in the day, and it looks like the rumor is

872
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,199
that Xbox might be looking to try and revive some

873
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,719
of the licenses for some of these older Marvel games.

874
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,920
I don't know if you've seen recently, but like that

875
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:32,400
old Deadpool game is like very expensive for people to

876
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,360
trying to buy it right now, I guess holt off

877
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,199
of Deadpool Wolverine, but this could also mean Ultimate Alliance

878
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,239
one and two of those games could come back into

879
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,039
the shop and along with them, like I'm sure tons

880
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:47,000
of old Spider Man games. There's like Fantastic four games,

881
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,280
There's all sorts of license games from back in the day.

882
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,480
So I think this would be great because people have

883
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:54,920
been talking about that for years, Like Okay, with the

884
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,920
Marvel craze, all these Marvel games coming out. A lot

885
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,320
of these Marvel games aren't doing super hot, like Guardians

886
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,400
and Midnight Sound. Then there's other Avengers, of course, but

887
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,960
there's other ones like Spider Man and Marvel Snap that

888
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,039
are very successful. And it seems, you know, PlayStation as

889
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:11,440
their exclusive, Nintendo got Ultimate Alliance three as their exclusive.

890
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,159
Where's Xbox? Why aren't they getting in the mix here?

891
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:15,840
They do have Blade coming out now, so that is

892
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,840
one of their things, but that is maybe a little

893
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,360
bit of them acquiring that studio rather than like going

894
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,880
for it on their own. But I think this would

895
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,000
be actually a great way for them to have some

896
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:29,719
Marvel presence on their platform if they just, like if

897
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,599
they just revived it for Xbox and not for the

898
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,480
other platforms. I think that would be a thing that

899
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:37,119
would flock people to the console in some way. And

900
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:39,320
like I desperately want to get Ultimate Alliance one and

901
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,280
two again, and I could buy, you know, like a

902
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,599
three sixty version or a GameCube version. I see them

903
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:46,480
all the time at game stores, but then you can't

904
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:48,719
really get the DLC and a lot of that stuff's

905
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,119
gated or like exclusive and weird way. So it's just

906
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:54,159
hard to get those games anymore, which is too bad

907
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:56,719
when the licenses aspire on things like that. But man,

908
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,639
I would I would love to see that. I think

909
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,440
that would be really cool if they'd get some of

910
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,239
those games back up and running. And I think every

911
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,599
any game, you know, we we hate to see games

912
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:07,559
that get delisted and lost of time like that. It's

913
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:09,960
just too bad, especially for Ultimateized Wanting too that still

914
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,840
play pretty well, still look pretty decent. You know, they

915
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,880
can get away with it. So I don't know any

916
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,599
any any thoughts on what I mentioned.

917
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: I think that that is a huge, huge gold mine

918
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,760
if you were to be tapping into those old titles

919
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,719
like that and just be giving them life again. I

920
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,159
think that that is the right thing to do. Yeah,

921
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:31,199
so I'm there for it. Xbox needs to have some

922
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,119
more Marvel titles, if you ask me, and let's let's

923
00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:35,800
make it happen.

924
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:41,199
Speaker 1: Let's make it happen. Okay, with that, let's speaking of Xbox,

925
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,519
move into our topic of the day here. So, Taylor,

926
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:47,599
I have had this this topic on my calendar for

927
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:49,360
a bit and I wanted to.

928
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,559
Speaker 2: Do it with you a couple of months ago.

929
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:54,639
Speaker 1: And then Xbox, like you know, announced the layoffs of

930
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,039
all those studios, and I was like, fuck, ex, I

931
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:57,559
don't want to talk about Xbox right and I don't

932
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:01,079
want to talk about my love for like Xbox stuff.

933
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,039
But the time feels right now, and I think the

934
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:07,159
timing for this is we're talking about Xbox achievements, just

935
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:09,840
like that kind of basic feature there. I think it's

936
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,079
timely because I just recently crossed fifty thousand gamer Score

937
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:16,000
and I know that you when I was looking at

938
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:18,400
you you also I don't know if you crossed it recently,

939
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,840
but you're also like just above fifty thousands or like

940
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,840
a very similar achievement number, which is a funny thing

941
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,960
to see. But yeah, I guess just very basically, like

942
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,239
when you back in the day playing your through sixty,

943
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:33,320
what did you think of Xbox achievements as like a

944
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,159
new feature for video games? And how do you feel

945
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:38,639
about achievements today in twenty twenty four, Like, do you

946
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:40,239
care at all when you see them pop you turn

947
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,000
off the notifications, do you still get excited? Where are

948
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,119
you at with achievements?

949
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: Back in the day, Yes, Achievement hunting was something I

950
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,639
was very, very into and I would always make a

951
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:56,760
point like I would pop my game in, I would

952
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,719
look and see, okay, what achievements are here, and if

953
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,840
there were certain things you had to do in so

954
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,239
missions to get those achievements, I'd be doing them. I

955
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,360
was really really into that, and then that kind of

956
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,360
has transitioned into more so I keep the notifications on

957
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,440
because I like to see them, and the only I'm

958
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,800
not actively hunting to do the achievements, but there are

959
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:20,679
certain circumstances where I can I can I can tell like, okay,

960
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,440
well this way, this level is set up. If I

961
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,480
do something like this way, I know this is probably

962
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:28,000
be an achievement, because some achievements are a lot easier

963
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,840
to do nowadays. And I will try just to get

964
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,559
my gamers score up overall, not necessarily just for COMPLETIONNIS

965
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:37,920
on a game or just to get the achievements. It's

966
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,159
more so just to get the achievement to boost my

967
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:43,079
gamer score. I'm not actively trying to increase my gamer

968
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,639
score because Xbox has that, hey, this is where you

969
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,360
rank in the month for your friends for how much

970
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,719
gamer score you have. I don't really pay much mind

971
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,760
to that. I'm just doing it for fun for myself.

972
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: If you do, you'll I think you'll see me number one.

973
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,880
All the game pass things that I play. I'm like

974
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:02,440
always top of my friends score kind of thing.

975
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: Jessica used to I think it was back in Target days,

976
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:08,440
like she was just mopping the floor with me. She

977
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:11,519
was I don't think I have her on as an Xboxer.

978
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: I gonna add her on there, and I don't think

979
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,239
she's playing Xbox these days, but just to historically go

980
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:16,840
check it out.

981
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, no there. I'm just looking through my achievements

982
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,000
right now, and yeah, it's there's there's a lot on here,

983
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:28,519
and there's not many games that I've I've one hundred

984
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:31,920
percent achievement wise on here either, But I like that.

985
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,880
It's the same for PlayStation with trophies. It's it's the

986
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,280
exact same thing. But I've always kind of just I'm biased.

987
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,119
I like the achievements, and there's definitely some achievements that

988
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,079
I am proud of, and one there's I have one

989
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,320
achievement that got away and I've never been able to

990
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,639
go back and do it, and it's that one hurts.

991
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,199
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna write that down. We'll circle

992
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,119
back as we love to do the one that got away.

993
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: I love that.

994
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I have a very very similar

995
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,920
story to you. Three sixty achievements back in the day,

996
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,280
I remember that was like such a cool thing for me.

997
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,360
I don't know, I feel like even before I had

998
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,320
a three sixty and was getting achievements, I was still

999
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,239
something I like to do in games that I was

1000
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,679
a really big fan of. Was like with their in

1001
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:24,679
in game achievement systems, you know, their completion, their checklists,

1002
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,119
all those kind of things. I would always for games

1003
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,239
I really loved. I'd want to do everything I could

1004
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:32,880
in them, and so when they just like became an

1005
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,639
official feature, it was a thing that made a lot

1006
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:36,480
of sense for me. And I feel like I kind

1007
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,360
of romanticized it a little bit because I, you know,

1008
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,559
would go over my cousin's place. He had his three

1009
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:42,679
sixty before I had mine, and it just seemed like

1010
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:44,800
a really fun thing to do, and I remember doing

1011
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,599
some achievement hunting with him. And when I eventually got

1012
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,119
my three sixty, I was into that too. Not like

1013
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:53,360
I wasn't renting games or buying games just for the achievements.

1014
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,920
It was more like Okay, I already had this game.

1015
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,920
Let me try and get all the achievements or get

1016
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,239
as many as I can, or just look through the list,

1017
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,480
where are some easy ones that I can get out

1018
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:03,880
there just to get increase that gamer score kind of thing.

1019
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,960
And I guess I kind of had a blank period

1020
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,599
there because I didn't have the Xbox One, so I

1021
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:12,920
was just out of it for an entire generation, and

1022
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,679
then coming back with the series X, I'm still really

1023
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:18,239
into it. I really love the achievement system as I

1024
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,880
do the trophy system. I wish that Nintendo would implement

1025
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,639
something of their own, because obviously the third party games,

1026
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:26,360
they wouldn't have to even think about it because they

1027
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,239
can just you know, have the same list brought over there.

1028
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,519
But I think it would just add a lot for

1029
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,159
certain Nintendo games as well. But we'll talk about that

1030
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:36,360
a little bit later on. So I still get that

1031
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,800
dopamine hit whenever I get an achievement, and I don't

1032
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,440
really achievement hunt anymore. But I guess usually for me,

1033
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,159
if I've played through a game and I'm at like

1034
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,159
eighty ninety percent after I've beaten it, and it's a

1035
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,760
game that I am not like disliking and I'm ready

1036
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,800
to uninstall. I'll always check that list and see, oh

1037
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,719
how close am I? How easy is it going to be?

1038
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,000
I think like both the hell Blade games, because I

1039
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:01,559
played those recently, I was very close to getting it,

1040
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,400
like all the achievements in them. But then I look

1041
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,440
and it's like, you know, get every single collectible in

1042
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,320
every level, which would require me to play through the

1043
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,119
whole game. Again, I'm like, no way, I'm not doing that,

1044
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:13,000
even if I only have one or two achievements to go.

1045
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,760
But a lot of the time I will go for them,

1046
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,119
and I think it is especially like as I said,

1047
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:19,039
with playing into a lot of game pass things, it's

1048
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,519
just a I don't know, that's always a little mini game,

1049
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:23,559
and I can kind of a game within the game,

1050
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:26,840
so to speak. So yeah, I'm still a big fan

1051
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,039
of them, even if I'm not a quote unquote achievement hunter.

1052
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,960
But I don't know, there's something about achievements that, just

1053
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:36,519
like Steam achievements, they never really hit for me. They

1054
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,400
just don't have the same dopamine to them. And they

1055
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,960
do pop up on your screen they have a little

1056
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,719
sound effect. But I've never cared how much Steam achievement

1057
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,079
points or whatever they call it.

1058
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: I've never cared about that value.

1059
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: And with trophies, just because I've only ever owned a

1060
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,519
PS four, I'm just so out of it that my score,

1061
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:56,119
my overall trophy count is so measly that I don't

1062
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:58,159
really care to get it much higher. But yeah, something

1063
00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:01,079
about achievements is like it's fun to to keep tracking,

1064
00:49:01,199 --> 00:49:02,960
like oh, I just crossed forty thousand today, or it

1065
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,920
was fun to see that fifty thousand beat and Taylor

1066
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,079
issue challenged you. I like I just recently took over you,

1067
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,119
I think because I think, especially with you being in

1068
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:14,440
the Xbox one generation, you were getting achievements that whole time.

1069
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: I was behind for a while.

1070
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: But I think once again, with all these game pass things,

1071
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,400
I have crossed you now and I have beat unless.

1072
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,920
In the last few days, you've been going ham and

1073
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:22,760
I and I miss no.

1074
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think.

1075
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: I officially have more achievements than you, which is kind

1076
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,639
of It's a fun little point of comparison, becau I

1077
00:49:28,639 --> 00:49:30,119
feel like I would always look at your number like

1078
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:33,039
damn Taylor's crushing over there, and now I'm in there

1079
00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:34,599
in the big leagues with you with a fifty.

1080
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: K mark fifty k it feels good, which.

1081
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: If you think about it, that essentially means like one

1082
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,360
hundred percent completion in fifty games. Obviously it ends up

1083
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,719
being spread out across more games, but's it's kind of

1084
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,400
a pretty big number for one platform.

1085
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: I would say, absolutely.

1086
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: M So let's let's talk about some of our favorites

1087
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,119
at this point. And I mean, I've got to start

1088
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:56,599
with what is the one that got away? Tell me,

1089
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,639
tell me that story.

1090
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: Okay, now callity. Zombie achievements are some of the most

1091
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,639
craziest fucking.

1092
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,519
Speaker 1: Things I have ever looked at those I'm curious.

1093
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:14,559
Speaker 2: The Easter eggs are absolutely nuts. So's there's regular zombie

1094
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:17,079
achievements like an ascension pack, a punch of weapon before

1095
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:19,239
round eight. You got to work as a team to

1096
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,599
do that, and someone's got to make sacrifices that you

1097
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:26,920
can actually pull that off. H There's what's another one

1098
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,239
that we got here, fire pack, a punch, ballistic knife,

1099
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,920
and a down ally to revive them from a distance. So

1100
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,119
buy every weapon off the walls and a single zombies game.

1101
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,159
There's all those different types of.

1102
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: Those are really creative though, Like I think those are

1103
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,960
really fun ones like buying every wall weapon. That's a

1104
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:46,159
really that'd be a fun challenge run to do so

1105
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,960
that that's good. Like I think that's some games are

1106
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,639
really lazy with achievements, just like beat Chapter one, Beat

1107
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,440
Chapter two exactly, beat the game on normal, beat the

1108
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,880
game on Hard. But I think when games get really

1109
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,599
creative with them and like give you a challenge that

1110
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,000
you wouldn't otherwise.

1111
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,079
Speaker 2: Think to do, that that just adds so much to

1112
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:04,400
the game.

1113
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: So those are some cool ones.

1114
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,159
Speaker 2: For zombies, they're very, very nice, And it's the Easter

1115
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,079
egg ones that are the most difficult. And each one

1116
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:17,239
in Black Ops, the Black Ops one, each map had

1117
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,400
that you had called the Dead, which is that snowy

1118
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,639
one with Georgi ra Merriw was like the main zombie

1119
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:26,880
walking around and doing that Easter Egg was a nightmare.

1120
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,599
But I remember I remember going on to I don't

1121
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:32,039
even know if it was red it was just a

1122
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:34,679
forum back in the day in early two thousands or sorry,

1123
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,480
a mid twenty tens, because I would have been high

1124
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,559
school and with my friends after school is like, Okay,

1125
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,119
we're gonna try, We're gonna try, and it would be

1126
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:45,000
like five hours of all four of us together working

1127
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,480
through this easter egg, and then when we're done and

1128
00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:49,599
we get the achievement at the end, it's like, man,

1129
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:52,280
that felt so freaking good. And when I look at

1130
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,079
it today and I'm looking at that specific achievement for

1131
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:59,159
doing that, it's, oh, where did it go? I just

1132
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,360
had it. It was like one point sixty seven percent

1133
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:06,480
have completed this, and to know that I'm like a

1134
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,000
part of that, it's like, yeah, it feels good. But

1135
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,920
the one that got away was on the moon.

1136
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:16,519
Speaker 1: There was sension or is a different map.

1137
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:18,679
Speaker 2: The act it's it's called like it's called the moon.

1138
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,280
So you actually go to the you go to the moon.

1139
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,519
Speaker 1: Yeah different, is the gravity different? You're like flying around night?

1140
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 2: Okay, change it's it's a wild time and uh yes

1141
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,000
you can go into like the space station stuff like that.

1142
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,360
So that was basically a two part easter egg. You

1143
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,039
get all the way through the main east strike and

1144
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,239
then it continues on. You do the next few steps

1145
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,320
and complete the back.

1146
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,079
Speaker 1: Sorry. By doing these these strikes, you just have to

1147
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:47,800
go to certain rooms and like interact with the thing.

1148
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,519
Speaker 2: Right usually is what it is? Oh not necessarily.

1149
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: I remember on a sension it was like there's a

1150
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,440
little bubble heads and you have to like go knife

1151
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,159
them or and they would like spawn in different spots.

1152
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, so in this case, let's say there was

1153
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,920
the jungle. I can't remember what it was called exactly,

1154
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,719
but there's the jungle level not Shino Numa, but his

1155
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,800
actual jungle. And you had spike moars, so it was

1156
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,679
clay wars wouldn't spikes on them. And there were these

1157
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,280
two tunnels on the map, and one of the tunnels

1158
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,519
had holes along its walls in a specific spot. So

1159
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:26,039
what you had to do is you had to put

1160
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:29,280
a spike more down facing those holes, and you had

1161
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,719
to lure specifically a fire napalm zombie down that hallway

1162
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:36,239
and have it explode and then it lights up and

1163
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,039
hits the wall. And that's just one of the things

1164
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:40,719
that you'd have to do. Other things could be like

1165
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,159
your buddy is up on this railing. He knife's this

1166
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,079
glass bottle that's frozen too the railing. The bottle falls

1167
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:47,639
and you have to be under it and hit xt

1168
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:49,559
to catch it. If you don't, it breaks, you lose

1169
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:53,920
your progress. You got to start over. Oh it stresses

1170
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,800
me out thinking about all this stuff. But on the moon,

1171
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,599
me and my friend successfully did the first Easter Egg

1172
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:02,639
and we were continuing. We got that achievement and we

1173
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:05,960
were continuing to do the next Easter Egg on the map,

1174
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,360
and we just needed a ray gun I believe it was,

1175
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:15,760
and my friend pulled it from the box, but he

1176
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,119
didn't get it in time because he ran and he

1177
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:20,239
was also cutting zombies, like, oh, we need the raga,

1178
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,719
we need the raygun for this next step, but he

1179
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,519
couldn't get it in time, and then we all got

1180
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:26,280
downed and we we died, and I was like fuck

1181
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,800
and we never retried it since I just don't have

1182
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,480
the strength to go back and do that one again.

1183
00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:35,719
I would need a full dedicated squad. But yeah, yeah,

1184
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,280
they kept that up with Black Ops too. There was

1185
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,000
like an underground mining site that you go to and

1186
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:44,639
it turns out to be like this midwestern underground site

1187
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:47,760
with like a maze and like a Midwestern saloon and stuff.

1188
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,960
It was a lot of fun and that was another achievement,

1189
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:53,039
like survived like a full wave inside the maze against

1190
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:56,519
the zombies and there's like a haunted witch inside the

1191
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,159
this haunted house in there too. It was that was

1192
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:01,199
a lot of fun that map.

1193
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, I want to go check out some

1194
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,639
of those some of those maps. I don't know if

1195
00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:09,639
I want to go do all the Easter Egg hunting

1196
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:15,119
necessarily speaking, but that's cool. I think that The first

1197
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:18,440
one that comes to mind, very random for me, the

1198
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,639
first one that comes to mind when I think at

1199
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,760
Xbox Achievements is Resident Evil.

1200
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: Five, very randomly.

1201
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: I remember being at my cousin's place and we had

1202
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,440
rented this game for the weekend. This is my memory,

1203
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,360
could be, maybe it was a longer period of time,

1204
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,119
I'm not sure. And over the course of this weekend

1205
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:39,360
we went through and beat because this was a Resident

1206
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,679
Evil five was a co op one, and so you

1207
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,119
would I remember, we would do every city. You'd have

1208
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:47,199
to get like every single collectible, like all these freaking

1209
00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:49,760
garnets and gems and random spots. You'd have to upgrade

1210
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,480
all the weapons to like golden weapons, or at least

1211
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,719
get like the golden gatling gun or something like that.

1212
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:56,719
And just like I don't I don't remember. I really

1213
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,559
don't remember the specific of it in the way that

1214
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:01,320
you can remember some of these zombies ones. But I

1215
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,760
don't know why what it was about that game, But

1216
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,079
we were just obsessed with it and trying to get

1217
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:07,679
one hundred percent completion, and it was just such a

1218
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,840
fun goal for us. And so I feel like we

1219
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,119
had to play their old levels like multiple times and

1220
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,519
figure out all these things, and we had like guides open,

1221
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,000
and I feel like some of these guys were kind

1222
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,960
of limited to so we needed like YouTube videos to

1223
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,400
show us where like certain things were. And it was

1224
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,840
just such a fun time. And I feel like games

1225
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,119
like that like that, and an Army of Two was

1226
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:27,239
like another favorite of ours. There was like these perfect

1227
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,920
like third person co op split screen shooters were like

1228
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:32,920
the Be's knees back in middle school high school days.

1229
00:56:33,199 --> 00:56:35,679
And yeah, Resident Evil five was like a really iconic

1230
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,159
one for some reason. And then I remember when I

1231
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,840
eventually got my three sixties as well. I did it again,

1232
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,920
I think with another friend of mine McCall. I think

1233
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,239
we did that same thing again where we went through

1234
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,079
and got one hundred percent completion in it. So I've

1235
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:49,519
got one hundred percent completion and Reside Evil five twice

1236
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,079
on different consoles for whatever reason. It's funny how little

1237
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:56,400
of that game I remember today, even though I clearly

1238
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,960
played a ton of it, and like it was only

1239
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,079
like ten fifteen years ago or something. So I'm curious

1240
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:02,760
if they do one day do a remake of that

1241
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,800
and I pick it up and replay that game, because yeah,

1242
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,719
I had some great memories within that was that was

1243
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,000
a very very fun time.

1244
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:11,159
Speaker 2: So I don't know what it is about that.

1245
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:13,559
Speaker 1: Game, but that is like the first achievement that comes

1246
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:15,480
to mind when I think of think of my time there,

1247
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,559
and I think, so I got like a thousand gamer score,

1248
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:19,039
and then when I was looking at it when I

1249
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:21,559
was checking my list before this episode, I think they

1250
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:23,400
added DLC at some point, so I like don't have

1251
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,880
all the achievements now, which is always frustrating when that happens.

1252
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:29,000
I remember Halo three was one of those where like

1253
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,960
they just kept adding achievements to that game over and

1254
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,000
over and over again. I got all of them, got

1255
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:35,800
all of them again, but then they just keep adding

1256
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,079
new maps and I even know where all these achievements

1257
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:39,199
come from. I think a lot of them are like

1258
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,559
multiplayer achievements. But yeah, I remember Halo three was an

1259
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:46,000
iconic one as well, of course because of going for

1260
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:48,159
recon armor and having to do all these things and

1261
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:51,960
be these levels, all these skulls activated everything on legendary

1262
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,599
and then like multiplayer stuff were there were so many

1263
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:55,199
in Halo three.

1264
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:57,119
Speaker 2: That was probably one of my favorites as well when.

1265
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,159
Speaker 1: It came to achievements, just because I love that game

1266
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:00,679
so much and there was so much to it between

1267
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:03,880
the multiplayer single player Forge mode that even just having

1268
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,519
more to do with the checking off the check boxes,

1269
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:08,800
and then when you had odst in there as well,

1270
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,559
with like the bonus maps and that kind of content

1271
00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:12,480
as well. There was just there was so much to

1272
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:14,320
do in that game, and still have not done at all,

1273
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,119
but I don't know if I ever will at this point.

1274
00:58:17,679 --> 00:58:20,599
Speaker 2: There's three games I believe in my list that I

1275
00:58:20,679 --> 00:58:27,480
have one for achievements. The first one was Sassin Skreek

1276
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:30,840
two okay one and Kirkland's done that too. That's the

1277
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,559
one where we talked about we're proud of the Other

1278
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:36,360
one that I have is Overcooked one.

1279
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:39,599
Speaker 1: I saw that on your list, such a funny one.

1280
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,679
Do you remember much like how was that achieve Is

1281
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:44,559
there weird achievements in that or is it more just

1282
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:46,519
like get gold stars on every level?

1283
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,719
Speaker 2: Ah? I don't remember what it was like. I remember.

1284
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,679
I do remember though. Madison's friend was visiting and she

1285
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:57,480
this is the first time I met her, and she

1286
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:00,440
was big into gaming, and so we're playing over Hooked

1287
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,000
and we just got super hooked and she's like, oh wow,

1288
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,039
there's only a few achievements left because we ended up

1289
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:08,119
we did the main story mode that they had. She

1290
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:10,119
helped me beat the game, and then we just kept

1291
00:59:10,119 --> 00:59:12,360
playing and we just finished getting all the other achievements,

1292
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,760
because I think there was like, let's see what we

1293
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,360
got here. Complete, yeah, complete the kitchen in the underworld,

1294
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,519
complete the kitchen, and versus mode. So they're very simple achievements.

1295
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:26,079
There's only a couple in here be awarded three stars

1296
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:31,280
in every kitchen and so the that was a lot

1297
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,960
of fun. Then the other one that I have is Transformers.

1298
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:38,519
I think Rise of the Fallen is the one I have,

1299
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,719
or maybe it was Dark Side of the Moon or

1300
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,679
is it on this list.

1301
00:59:49,559 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: Either or it's it was a I was scrolling through

1302
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,000
your list and I saw that as well. I didn't

1303
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,119
I just wrote down Transformers.

1304
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:57,239
Speaker 2: I didn't write down the Yeah. And that was back

1305
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,280
in high school, and I don't think I had War

1306
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,239
for cyber or Fall of Cybertron. I think there was

1307
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,159
War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron both. Yeah, War

1308
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:09,039
for Cybertron, that's the one I played. That one. I

1309
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:10,800
really loved that game. And so then I played this

1310
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,199
other Transformers game based on the movie, and that one

1311
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,400
was a lot of fun. The concept of just being

1312
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,039
able to transform into your vehicle as you're running around

1313
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,239
and transform back and you're like your bipedal form and

1314
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,079
it's a shooter game too, is a lot of fun.

1315
01:00:24,119 --> 01:00:26,519
And playing that based on the movie was great because

1316
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:29,480
this movie game, this game based on the movie had

1317
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:32,039
multiplayer as well in it as well, so you're playing

1318
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:34,239
against other people online. It was just a really really

1319
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:36,800
awesome game and a good time. And that was just

1320
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,880
one that I looked at and thought, Man, these achievements

1321
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,599
aren't that difficult, and there's not a lot of them,

1322
01:00:41,679 --> 01:00:44,719
so this is definitely doable if I wanted to complete it.

1323
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,639
And I ended up going through it and completing it,

1324
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,199
and I'm glad I did because there's a lot of

1325
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:50,679
games that are just dead games now. But it's cool

1326
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,920
looking back and I'm like, you know what, I got

1327
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,760
all those achievements, so I don't have to worry about

1328
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,519
that ever again in my life, even though the multiplayer

1329
01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:57,400
has been closed down.

1330
01:00:58,039 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: That is a pet peep of mine. I think multiplayer

1331
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,440
achievements should just be banned or like should somehow be

1332
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,760
separately integrated into the games. I think that's such an

1333
01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:11,239
annoying aspect of some games where it's just impossible to

1334
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,440
get those achievements anymore because servers have been shut off

1335
01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:17,599
or I think that's like a big thing. I saw

1336
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:20,599
people playing about with like Fable two or three. There

1337
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:23,800
was something where you like connect to the internet and

1338
01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:25,920
like some online feature with it, and that's like the

1339
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,480
only way to get that achievement. And so there's a

1340
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,480
lot of people who have like ninety nine percent in

1341
01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:31,519
like whatever failable game in this is, but they just

1342
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:34,320
can't get that last one because it's not available anymore.

1343
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,119
Speaker 2: I just hate that.

1344
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: Like, I think there is some fun multiplayer achievement things

1345
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,480
to be had, and I think something like Zombies like

1346
01:01:40,519 --> 01:01:42,719
that seems fine to me, even though that's you know,

1347
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,119
multiplayer PvE sort of situation. Yeah, I think straight up

1348
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:49,079
multiplayer achievements, especially when they're just like get a hundred

1349
01:01:49,159 --> 01:01:50,159
kills within assault rifle.

1350
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: Like that's such a boring.

1351
01:01:51,159 --> 01:01:54,039
Speaker 1: Achievement, Like make that some incentive in game. It gives

1352
01:01:54,039 --> 01:01:56,519
you like an XP bonus, but don't make it an achievement.

1353
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:58,880
Come on, that's not that's not worth it. So yeah,

1354
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,039
there are those are some pet peeve ones for me.

1355
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:04,800
But I guess you're right, like they do feel more special.

1356
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:10,760
I guess because they're exclusive essentially no longer unlockable achievements.

1357
01:02:11,079 --> 01:02:14,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have one more. I'm gonna shot a one

1358
01:02:14,159 --> 01:02:16,639
proud one that I did not work for. My friend

1359
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:19,400
came over back when we had Guitar Hero and he

1360
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,239
played through the Fire and Flames on Expert Like he's

1361
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,960
fucking skilled at this shit. He got me the achievement

1362
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,960
for me just to have on my profile. Wow. But yeah,

1363
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,920
he just he'd rip on that guitar. It was great, man.

1364
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,039
Speaker 1: I wonder if I'll ever beat that song because back

1365
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:40,039
in the day I was was hardcore into Guitar Hero

1366
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:44,800
three uh, and I I think I I think my

1367
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,880
best on Through the Fire Flames on Expert is like

1368
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,639
seventy percent of the song. So I made it through

1369
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:53,440
that like initial section that is savage and through various sequences.

1370
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,679
But yeah, like I forget what exactly is occurring in

1371
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:00,760
that seventy percent ish area, but it just is so

1372
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:03,760
freaking hard. So it's one of those things where like, man,

1373
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,480
you can't play that game on anything but a CRT,

1374
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,000
Like you need an old fat TV that has no

1375
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:10,960
leag you can't play it on a modern TV. So

1376
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,679
I have that the right situation set up, and I

1377
01:03:13,679 --> 01:03:15,360
don't think I had, like I don't have the proofer

1378
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,440
role anymore so, and if you ever played it like

1379
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,760
Scandy or something like, goddamn those are savage, how bad

1380
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,079
those guitars are like the shreds.

1381
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:24,679
Speaker 2: So so yeah, I don't know.

1382
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:26,679
Speaker 1: I wonder if I'll ever beat You know, I always

1383
01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:29,920
felt like I eventually would beat that song someday, But.

1384
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,239
Speaker 2: Now the older I am, it's like, I don't know.

1385
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:33,519
Speaker 1: My reaction time is probably worse than it was when

1386
01:03:33,519 --> 01:03:36,320
I was playing in middle school high school, So I

1387
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,800
don't know. I don't know if I'll ever beat it.

1388
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,119
And my wrists, I feel like they would just shatter

1389
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:42,280
these days we do that, or if so many wrist

1390
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,960
issues from climbing, so that would be a good that

1391
01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:47,000
I should have set that goal for my for the

1392
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:49,840
next two years to finally beat through the firing flames.

1393
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,960
That would be a good goal.

1394
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: On the charity stream. That'd be wonderful.

1395
01:03:54,639 --> 01:03:57,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, if anyone still has that, we should definitely plug

1396
01:03:57,719 --> 01:03:59,400
it in. That would be That would be a good time.

1397
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:03,360
When I was going through your list and looking at

1398
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,039
ones that stood out to me, I mean there was

1399
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:07,039
you actually brought up some of them that I was

1400
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:09,840
gonna bring up already. But I feel like half of

1401
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,039
your gamer score must be from like Halo CAD and

1402
01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:16,920
Assassin's Creed, like those three series combined together, because you

1403
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,280
have like all those games you've played, and you don't

1404
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,280
have one hundred percent achievements in all of them, but

1405
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,039
you have just like a few hundred in each And

1406
01:04:24,119 --> 01:04:27,519
like a lot of these Assassin's Creed games or Halo

1407
01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:29,519
cod that I looked at on your list, a lot

1408
01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:32,159
of these you have like eight nine hundred gamers score,

1409
01:04:32,199 --> 01:04:33,559
and some of them might have DLC, so it might

1410
01:04:33,639 --> 01:04:35,719
not be might have more than a thousand, but you

1411
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,800
have a lot in so many of these games that

1412
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,320
I feel like your overall ratio is probably so much

1413
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,000
from those three series, which I just find very fitting

1414
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:46,599
and very perfect.

1415
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,719
Speaker 2: I wish that I could kind of filter them out

1416
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,800
and look, because yeah, like Black Ops one ninety five

1417
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,000
at a seventeen hundred, again a lot of achievements at

1418
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,280
a so multiplayer master Chief Collection seventeen forty of seven thousand,

1419
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,000
seven thousands. Fuck, that's nuts.

1420
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: That's actually crazy. I guess it is seven games, or

1421
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:07,800
is it? Because Halo three had more than a thousand,

1422
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,480
So I wonder if that would be how many games

1423
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,679
is the Master Chief Collection again?

1424
01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 2: Five? Because it has the odst in there.

1425
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: Crazy, that's insane. That must be the record for like

1426
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,239
highest or single game with highest achievement number in it.

1427
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,960
I kind of think, so that's we'll see a Thieves five,

1428
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,760
four and sixty. That's crazy. That makes sense, but it's

1429
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:34,840
surprising to hear still.

1430
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, you're right, Like there's a few Assassin's

1431
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,039
Creed titles where I don't have a lot of achievements

1432
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:43,280
in there. But yeah, there's there's a few games stated

1433
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,679
to K two eight hundred and sixty out of twenty

1434
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,199
four hundred. There's a few Black Ops that I really

1435
01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:52,960
have low low ones, but you get those achievements through

1436
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:55,920
doing the campaign, and I mostly have just committed just

1437
01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,719
to the multiplayer side of those ones. But yeah, there's

1438
01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:02,639
a few in here that are high. My Reach is

1439
01:06:02,679 --> 01:06:06,559
eleven twenty five out of seventeen hundred, Advanced Warfare one

1440
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:11,199
thousand and seventy out of two thousand. Here's Wear two

1441
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,280
is high, Black Ops two is high. Yeah, so there's

1442
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,519
a few heavy hitters in here, which is nice to

1443
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,239
look at. Yeah. Yeah, some other ones, I mean, for

1444
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:24,880
me my list also.

1445
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: Like caud In Halo take up a lot of those

1446
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,079
ton of achievements from those two series. I have over

1447
01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:33,000
a thousand in Midnight suns Now, which is cool. There

1448
01:06:33,079 --> 01:06:37,440
was DLC achievements there, And one frustrating part with that

1449
01:06:37,519 --> 01:06:39,320
one is I remember when I was playing through that,

1450
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,159
a lot of the I think it was from the

1451
01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:45,159
Deadpool DLC specifically, a lot of the achievements were bugged,

1452
01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:48,760
and I think like they eventually resolved the bug, but

1453
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,119
like you would have to replay it in order to

1454
01:06:51,159 --> 01:06:53,920
actually get the achievements now, like they can't retroactively give

1455
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,320
it to you anymore. So there's some that I'm just

1456
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,400
kind of locked out of. And then one of them

1457
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,519
is just completely savage, where it's like you need to

1458
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:02,800
get one hundred percent because there's like, you know, a

1459
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,760
light or dark system in that game. You need to

1460
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,679
get like one hundred percent light and one hundred percent darks.

1461
01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:09,159
That would require two full playthroughs, and even on one

1462
01:07:09,239 --> 01:07:11,760
my my one playthrough, which is all the DLC, I

1463
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,559
could never get to one hundred percent dark, even though

1464
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:16,639
I always chose dark as options. So I don't know

1465
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:18,639
one achievement in that game would hold me back from

1466
01:07:18,679 --> 01:07:21,639
every getting one hundred percent and those those glitch tot

1467
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:25,199
ones unfortunately, but that was that was fun getting a

1468
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:27,400
lot of those in that, especially with the DLC adding

1469
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,960
a few more in there over one thousand. In Borderlands

1470
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,599
once again, don't think I have one hundred percent in it,

1471
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:34,679
but have a lot in there. I saw that I

1472
01:07:34,679 --> 01:07:37,599
have nine hundred and ninety and oblivion, which actually makes

1473
01:07:37,639 --> 01:07:39,000
me so mad, like I need I need to go

1474
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:40,719
back in there and get an extra ten because I think,

1475
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,119
once again DLC brings it over a thousand, but I

1476
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:44,880
should definitely go back in there just to hit that

1477
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,719
over one thousand mark. Geometry Wars has really fun achievement lists,

1478
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,280
like really makes me play the game in weird creative ways.

1479
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: Randomly.

1480
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: This game pass game from earlier this year Little Kidie

1481
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,000
Big City. I got one hundred percent in because it

1482
01:07:58,039 --> 01:07:59,639
only it took like three hours to get one hundred

1483
01:07:59,639 --> 01:08:01,320
percent in that game, and I don't think it's a

1484
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,599
thousand gamer score one, but that was a fun Like

1485
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,719
once I beat the game, a couple of the last

1486
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,840
things to do were kind of just fun little collectible things,

1487
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,880
So that was a good time. And then I think

1488
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:15,599
maybe my biggest flex or like I don't even know

1489
01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:17,840
if it's a flex because it's maybe just embarrassing, but

1490
01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:21,319
Spelunky and Splunkie two. On Splunky two, I have one

1491
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:25,000
hundred percent of the achievements on Xbox. On I have

1492
01:08:25,039 --> 01:08:27,640
all the trophies. On PlayStation, I have all of the

1493
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:32,159
achievements on Steam and on Nintendo, like the Switch port

1494
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:34,800
of it. Since Nintendo doesn't have that built in, they

1495
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,399
like put in a UI thing for the achievements in

1496
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,640
the game so you can still get them, and so

1497
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,399
I have one hundred percent on the Switch version too,

1498
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,479
So I have one hundred percent on that game four times.

1499
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,239
And then I think on Spelunky HD as well the

1500
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:50,439
original Splunky, I think I also have all all of

1501
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,199
them on Xbox, all on PlayStation. I think all all

1502
01:08:54,239 --> 01:08:56,800
four platforms. Once again, I think I have all of them,

1503
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,640
so it's a it just goes to show them what's

1504
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,840
I love. I've Splooky one and two that I've done

1505
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,239
everything in those games multiple times, and I am happy

1506
01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:06,800
to do it because once again, it's a fun achievement

1507
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,359
list where there's a couple in there, like big Scorers

1508
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:11,119
one where you just have to get a huge score,

1509
01:09:11,159 --> 01:09:13,479
which never unlocks anything in the game. The only reason

1510
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,439
to do it would be for the achievement. Another one

1511
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,720
that's really hard is to get zero score pick up

1512
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,439
zero gold throughout your run, which is super hard because

1513
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,000
if you're just like there's sometimes gold hidden under like

1514
01:09:23,039 --> 01:09:25,720
snow or leaves, so you might just accidentally walk home

1515
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,640
one you don't see, or if you put a bomb

1516
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,840
anywhere and that like flings gold across the screen and

1517
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,800
it hits you, then you pick it up. So that's

1518
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,960
like a really fun challenge. And both the games they

1519
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,640
have both those achievements in there, so really fun achievement

1520
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,840
lists to go through, and uh yeah, that's definitely my

1521
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,319
biggest flex and anytime if those games ever get ported

1522
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:46,079
to I don't even know what else exists. I guess

1523
01:09:46,079 --> 01:09:48,479
that's every platform that exists, but I don't know. Anytime

1524
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,960
that comes down a new platform and I can redownload

1525
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,199
it and it doesn't cross do cross save, I'll definitely

1526
01:09:53,239 --> 01:09:55,760
go back in and get everything all over again. So

1527
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,880
shot Outs too, Splunky, Starfield. I'm surprised I have eighty

1528
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,760
one percent of the achievements in Starfield. I'm sure when

1529
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,560
the DLC comes out that number is gonna drop, but

1530
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,039
I'll also play that and maybe get some more not Xbox,

1531
01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:09,800
but I think I got one hundred percent in Spider

1532
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,359
Man and Ghost of Sushima. Once again, Ghosts had DLCs

1533
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,800
that might take me out of the one hundred percent mark.

1534
01:10:16,079 --> 01:10:18,880
And then I also want to show out all the

1535
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,039
arcane games Dishonored and Pray and Death Loop all have

1536
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:26,119
really good achievement lists that really just make you play

1537
01:10:26,119 --> 01:10:28,039
the game in creative ways, do things you wouldn't normally

1538
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:31,119
think of, and all that sort of fun stuff. So

1539
01:10:31,319 --> 01:10:33,359
definitely showed to that team over there always making good

1540
01:10:33,359 --> 01:10:34,159
achievement lists.

1541
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: Let's take our last break of the show.

1542
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,279
Speaker 1: We'll be right back to talk about some more achievements.

1543
01:10:39,319 --> 01:10:47,079
We're right back. Okay, we are back where am I

1544
01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:49,039
at here? Okay, so I wanted to bring this up.

1545
01:10:49,039 --> 01:10:50,960
But when I was going through my list, did you

1546
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:53,199
when you did you look through your entire list? Did

1547
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:55,640
you go like start to back and just briefly look

1548
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,319
at all, like see all the games?

1549
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,279
Speaker 2: I did a quick brief Yeah, look, Yeah.

1550
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: Was there any games that you just forgot about or

1551
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:04,520
forgot that you played.

1552
01:11:06,119 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: There was a couple in there, I think, a couple

1553
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,399
of sports games that kind of caught me off guards.

1554
01:11:11,399 --> 01:11:12,960
I saw you had like a lot of NHL ones.

1555
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,319
Speaker 1: I feel like you have just yeah n games score

1556
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:16,520
in each of these kinds of things.

1557
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: That was a big one in high school with me

1558
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,680
and my friends playing together. Yeah, there's a few surprises

1559
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,479
in there that I definitely forgot about. A few really

1560
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,800
like one off games that I thought, uh, like Fracture

1561
01:11:28,039 --> 01:11:31,720
Lost Planet. Lost Planet's a really good one. Yeah.

1562
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: Nice. I there was several on mine that I was like, man,

1563
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,840
I do not remember playing this game at all. And

1564
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,880
one I had like achievements in various Gears games, which

1565
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,880
I feel like that was probably just Briggs bringing over

1566
01:11:44,319 --> 01:11:46,279
the games and playing them at my house on my console.

1567
01:11:46,279 --> 01:11:49,000
That's probably what was going on. There Dead Rising two.

1568
01:11:49,119 --> 01:11:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't remember ever.

1569
01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: Playing that game Godfather too, Like, what the hell, I've

1570
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,039
never played there in my life. I don't know how

1571
01:11:57,079 --> 01:11:59,800
I have an achievement in it. Very strange. And then

1572
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,119
all this tailor, I had achievements for Assassin's Creed, Revelations

1573
01:12:03,159 --> 01:12:06,479
to and Brotherhood. I promise you, I've never played these games,

1574
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,840
so I have no idea why I have these. Once again,

1575
01:12:09,119 --> 01:12:10,880
maybe a friend brought over a game, but like I

1576
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,840
can't I can't picture a role where I had a

1577
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,479
friend who had brought over multiple Assassin's Creed games and

1578
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,159
I don't think I ever rented them. You know, this

1579
01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:21,520
is like before game passed, so it's like I wouldn't

1580
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,159
have played them through there. I don't know where the

1581
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:26,239
hell those achievements came from. So there was a few

1582
01:12:26,279 --> 01:12:28,800
of those that I was just shocked to see on

1583
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,680
that list. I promise you, I have never played those games.

1584
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:36,279
I don't know where they came from. Weird. And then

1585
01:12:36,319 --> 01:12:39,159
I went back and saw that the first it's probably

1586
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:41,079
not the first achievement, but for There's last game on

1587
01:12:41,159 --> 01:12:43,800
my list was this game called Elo Milo, which was

1588
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,039
like a three sixty arcade game, I think it might

1589
01:12:46,079 --> 01:12:48,640
have been a free one that like everyone kind of

1590
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,720
played back in the day. And I'm i'm it's probably

1591
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,159
not the first game I played on my Xbox, but

1592
01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:54,560
it's probably the because I'm guessing, like, let's say I

1593
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,560
played Halo three first, and then I played Elo Melo

1594
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,720
about achievement, and then I played Halo three after that

1595
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,960
and got another achievement. It would like bump Payload three

1596
01:13:02,039 --> 01:13:03,600
up on my list. I'm guessing, you know, it'd put

1597
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,439
it as like a little recent thing. And so I

1598
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,880
think Elo'meo is like the oldest game on my list,

1599
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,560
which was a very random one because I barely remember

1600
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,359
that weird little like puzzle platform or.

1601
01:13:13,399 --> 01:13:14,239
Speaker 2: Kind of game. M hm.

1602
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,359
Speaker 1: So moving on, or did you have any other any

1603
01:13:18,359 --> 01:13:22,039
other games or achievements that you any stories or things

1604
01:13:22,119 --> 01:13:22,439
like that.

1605
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,079
Speaker 2: No, No, that's everything.

1606
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: So I think, Well, we were talking about online achievements,

1607
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,800
and I'm kind of against those. I also think games

1608
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,520
that require you to do multiple playthroughs, Like I can

1609
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,000
understand like, okay, beat the game on the highest difficulty,

1610
01:13:36,279 --> 01:13:38,880
but I think ones that are just like unnecessarily requiring

1611
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,439
you to play through the game multiple times, and like

1612
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,199
maybe it's like for a collectible, and like the game

1613
01:13:44,199 --> 01:13:46,159
doesn't have like a chapter select, so you can't just

1614
01:13:46,199 --> 01:13:47,520
like go back to a chapter.

1615
01:13:47,319 --> 01:13:49,119
Speaker 2: That you missed and do like that.

1616
01:13:49,159 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: Those guns can be kind of annoying, but you know,

1617
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,680
unless you're achievement hunting is probably not the end of

1618
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,199
the world. I also, I also feel like achievement hunting

1619
01:13:57,239 --> 01:13:59,000
is like not really a concept anymore. I feel like

1620
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,800
people don't do that these days or don't talk about it.

1621
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,359
Maybe it's just like people our age aren't doing it,

1622
01:14:04,359 --> 01:14:06,159
but like younger, you know, people in high school have

1623
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:08,479
more time are still doing it. But I do feel

1624
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,239
like with game Pass being what it is, this is

1625
01:14:11,279 --> 01:14:14,640
like achievement hunter paradise these days, where it's like, man,

1626
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,079
I have hundreds of games at my fingertips that I

1627
01:14:17,119 --> 01:14:18,600
don't need to buy or rent. I can just play

1628
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,159
them right now. And I feel like that for people

1629
01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:23,399
who are into gamer score, I feel like this must

1630
01:14:23,399 --> 01:14:26,439
be like the prime era to just crush those achievement lists.

1631
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,039
Speaker 2: There is a huge benefit of doing achievements right now,

1632
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:33,600
is because when you do achievements through games Pass, you

1633
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,439
get reward points, and those reward points can be actually

1634
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:43,479
used to buy Xbox Live. You can buy gift cards

1635
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,399
that you can use in the Xbox Store, or you

1636
01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:48,880
can enter their sweepstakes. There's a whole array of different

1637
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,319
things you can do simply by playing games.

1638
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,399
Speaker 1: I should really get signed up for that. I feel like,

1639
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,640
I feel like I see the notifications sometimes and then

1640
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:57,960
I click them and it's like, oh, you gotta go

1641
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,640
here and sign up, and I'm like, ah, I don't

1642
01:14:59,640 --> 01:14:59,960
want to do.

1643
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:05,359
Speaker 2: It's worth it. I have redeemed probably like thirty plus

1644
01:15:05,399 --> 01:15:09,399
dollars worth of gift cards through doing achievements, and so

1645
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,439
for me, I totally buy the Halloween game. There you

1646
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,199
go exactly. It's nice when you go to your store

1647
01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:17,000
and you just like, oh, I got a five dollars

1648
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,560
gift card I can slap down on like that battle

1649
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,159
pass for Call of Duty or that character path. It's

1650
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:24,760
really really handy. So that's that's something that is definitely

1651
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,000
incentive to doing these achievements. But there's definitely still a

1652
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:33,159
I think a lack thereof people really engaging with it.

1653
01:15:33,359 --> 01:15:37,520
I remember I can't remember where this I remember this story,

1654
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,359
but I can't remember where it was from. But someone

1655
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:46,399
would pay for their Xbox Live through this system simply

1656
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,000
by playing the games and doing the achievements and stuff,

1657
01:15:49,039 --> 01:15:51,640
and it would they would be like going crazy and

1658
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,000
doing different games and everything. I can't remember where I

1659
01:15:54,039 --> 01:15:54,920
heard that's crazy.

1660
01:15:55,239 --> 01:15:58,159
Speaker 1: You must have to get like probably be really efficient

1661
01:15:58,239 --> 01:15:59,880
with the games you're playing, like really playing like the

1662
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:03,399
easy one hundred percent achievement games that sort of thing

1663
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:07,039
to make enough progress with that. That's pretty crazy. I

1664
01:16:07,039 --> 01:16:11,439
remember because my my cousin was a big achievement hunter,

1665
01:16:12,359 --> 01:16:15,479
and he back in the day had the like Blockbuster

1666
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,640
renting membership thing, so he would you know, get like

1667
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,800
a free not free, but he could rent like one

1668
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,199
game every week kind of thing, and he would often

1669
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,960
expend that on a on like an easy one hundred

1670
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,560
percent achievement game. The one I have a very distinct

1671
01:16:31,319 --> 01:16:35,079
memory of is the Avatar game Avatar Last Airbender, which

1672
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:36,760
was like that was actually kind of a cool game.

1673
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,800
It was kind of like semi open world you go around,

1674
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,720
but there was five achievements in the game, and it

1675
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,680
was literally just get a ten hit combo, get a

1676
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,880
twenty hit combo, thirty hit combo, forty hit combo, fifty

1677
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,319
hit combo, and you could do it in within ten

1678
01:16:51,359 --> 01:16:53,560
minutes of booting up the game, you know, just go

1679
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,600
up to the first enemy and you know, do like

1680
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,399
this whatever this perfect combo, get that combo. One hundred

1681
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,760
thousand gamers go right there, super easy. And I know

1682
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,840
there's tons of those games out there that exist. There's

1683
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,319
even games that just like that's the whole marketing behind

1684
01:17:07,359 --> 01:17:11,279
their game is like, hey, spend two dollars easy thousand

1685
01:17:11,279 --> 01:17:14,399
gamers or easy Platinum trophy, and people buy that. People

1686
01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:16,000
who care about that stuff are really into it. I

1687
01:17:16,039 --> 01:17:18,159
don't think i'd ever really do that, but yeah, that

1688
01:17:18,199 --> 01:17:20,279
Avatar one really stood out to me. But yeah, there's

1689
01:17:20,279 --> 01:17:21,640
definitely a lot of the games that once again have

1690
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,920
really lazy achievement lists that you can just get really

1691
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,039
really quickly. They don't even require you to be the game.

1692
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:29,960
Most games have like role credits essentially gives you achievement,

1693
01:17:30,039 --> 01:17:33,159
but some don't. And yeah, makes it so you can

1694
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:35,239
cash in there. Did you ever do that? Did you

1695
01:17:35,279 --> 01:17:37,119
ever rent a game or borrow a game from someone

1696
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:42,560
just to get some easy gamers score? Ooh, I think

1697
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,000
you have too much honor for that. I feel like

1698
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,199
you wouldn't feel like you earned it.

1699
01:17:46,039 --> 01:17:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's no memory that I can pull from

1700
01:17:50,279 --> 01:17:52,920
where I think I've just I've borrowed a game to

1701
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,239
do that. Usually, like if I'm if I'm getting a game,

1702
01:17:57,279 --> 01:17:58,760
it's a game that I like, a game I really

1703
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:03,279
want to play, and it's it's got a consistent amount

1704
01:18:03,279 --> 01:18:05,039
of achievements that I got to like grind through. You

1705
01:18:05,039 --> 01:18:07,880
gotta beat the game, and you gotta do extra things

1706
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,479
stuff like that. That's kind of my jam. The only

1707
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,880
dishonorable thing I did was I bought Guitar Hero I

1708
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,399
have my friend come over and beat the fire Plans

1709
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:15,720
for me.

1710
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely guilty of that too, looking at

1711
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,039
my list and seeing all these Assassin's Creating Gears games

1712
01:18:21,079 --> 01:18:23,239
that I have no memory of playing, so I'm sure

1713
01:18:23,239 --> 01:18:25,560
I got some free free gamer score there as well.

1714
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,439
The last thing I guess wanted to ask is like,

1715
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,560
do you do you think the system is good as

1716
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,359
it stands? Do you think it like stands up by

1717
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,840
modern setting, Like do they need to change or revamp

1718
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,359
or improve anything? Or do you think it's like a

1719
01:18:37,399 --> 01:18:39,640
perfectly fine system that doesn't really need tweaking. It's like,

1720
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,800
if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Where are you at?

1721
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,840
With achievements as a just general system.

1722
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: I think that they have played around with it, and

1723
01:18:49,039 --> 01:18:50,800
I think that they need to do something to really

1724
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,479
motivate people to really get more invested in it. I

1725
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,760
don't know how this works, if it still even does.

1726
01:18:58,079 --> 01:19:00,520
But a couple of years ago before they changed the

1727
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,840
Xbox dashboard to what it is now, is back on

1728
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:09,199
the Xbox One where your achievements had different backgrounds to them.

1729
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,439
So for Star Wars Battlefront two, for example, I got

1730
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,640
a lot of achievements in there, and there were some

1731
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,920
achievements I really liked, and so I would select those

1732
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,960
achievements and then would give me specific background like concept

1733
01:19:21,119 --> 01:19:23,800
art from the game as my wallpayer as my back

1734
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,760
like desktops, desktop, my consoles background. So it's really cool

1735
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,880
because there was one of like it was like an

1736
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:34,039
in game shot of like Luke Skywalker force pushing and

1737
01:19:34,079 --> 01:19:37,239
Stormtroopers blasting away, and I changed it to where it's

1738
01:19:37,279 --> 01:19:39,479
like on Kashika and there's a bunch of Clone Troopers

1739
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,640
running forward like it's It was really really cool, And

1740
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,000
those were based on like different achievements that you would

1741
01:19:44,079 --> 01:19:47,079
unlocked and that you could select. I don't I haven't

1742
01:19:47,119 --> 01:19:49,000
dabbled in it for a while because I've just left

1743
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:49,279
it at.

1744
01:19:49,359 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: Think I've never seen that, so either I'm just kind

1745
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,920
of overlooking it or just not really done much these days.

1746
01:19:55,359 --> 01:19:56,359
But that's a cool feature.

1747
01:19:56,399 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. I want to regoogle it

1748
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:07,359
because yeah, that's it was really really neat. Some game

1749
01:20:07,399 --> 01:20:09,880
developers go through the effort of creating wallpapers that are

1750
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,159
unlocked with achievements. Yeah, that's on Xbox. They put that

1751
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:15,279
in like four years ago. Here, I'm gonna show you

1752
01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:21,399
this share screen here because this is pretty cool because

1753
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,800
I remember when they announced this. So you can see

1754
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:30,760
here he's cycling through his achievements and like he picks

1755
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,039
one here with the artwork lone Wolf, and you can

1756
01:20:34,119 --> 01:20:38,760
choose set his background as you've unlocked the achievement, and

1757
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,199
then as he back out. Well no, he's just showing you.

1758
01:20:43,239 --> 01:20:45,439
But yeah, it sets it as your background, so with

1759
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,399
all your apps and everything, it'll just be overlaying the

1760
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,239
background wallpaper. So it's super cool. It's a really really

1761
01:20:52,279 --> 01:20:52,760
neat thing.

1762
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking up like I can't really find

1763
01:20:56,079 --> 01:20:58,840
like just a bullet point list, but yeah, people talking

1764
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,159
about hey have a lot of those. I see that

1765
01:21:01,279 --> 01:21:03,920
someone talking about Battlefront see if thieves apparently have some

1766
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,680
cool ones Doom twenty sixteen, that could be interesting.

1767
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 2: I did play through that.

1768
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: I I think I played through that on PC, so

1769
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,880
I guess I don't have those ones. Rise Son of

1770
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,119
Rome apparently has some good Elton Ring even has some Okay,

1771
01:21:18,119 --> 01:21:19,560
so I guess it is still like a modern thing

1772
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,279
people are still doing. I should really look into that.

1773
01:21:22,319 --> 01:21:24,319
I probably maybe I should look at see if Midnight

1774
01:21:24,399 --> 01:21:26,479
Suns has any because I'm sure i'd have some juicy

1775
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,159
ones there. So thank you for showing that up. That's yeah.

1776
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:32,119
Maybe that's part of it is like just the knowledge

1777
01:21:32,119 --> 01:21:34,359
of where of this thing, like even that that system

1778
01:21:34,399 --> 01:21:36,920
you're talking about there, of getting some money, like I

1779
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,439
knew that was kind of in there, but I've never

1780
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,279
really thought about it. So I don't know what how

1781
01:21:40,319 --> 01:21:42,479
they can teach us about these things better, but I

1782
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,239
feel like they need that integrate into the UI maybe

1783
01:21:45,239 --> 01:21:48,000
a little bit better. That's that's cool. I think one

1784
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,119
thing that has stood out to me is that some

1785
01:21:52,199 --> 01:21:55,399
games have like the tracker, and then you can enable

1786
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,479
the trackers, like actually in game, it'll like show you

1787
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,680
a tracker like your progress on certain things, and then

1788
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,439
when you go on the UI, the Xbox UI, you

1789
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:04,800
can actually go see and like look at like the

1790
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,600
detailed like how many I don't know, bonus battles do

1791
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,720
you need to Midnight Suns? I've done sixteen and I

1792
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,239
need to do twenty, and that's really cool. But I

1793
01:22:13,239 --> 01:22:16,720
feel like so few games actually that actually works. Whether

1794
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,239
that's just bugged or I'm guessing it's more that developers

1795
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,439
have to kind of opt into that and like actually

1796
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,239
program the game in a way that is like tracking

1797
01:22:25,319 --> 01:22:27,239
those and then convey it that to.

1798
01:22:27,239 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: The Xbox Dashboard UI.

1799
01:22:29,159 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's what it is. That I don't think

1800
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,239
it'd be like some AI system that's smart enough to

1801
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:33,840
detect like for some of them, I could see that,

1802
01:22:34,119 --> 01:22:35,800
and maybe that's what it is. Like maybe some achievements

1803
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,560
are like really easy to track in that way, but

1804
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,239
other ones are like really hard to determine that in

1805
01:22:40,279 --> 01:22:42,439
a live way. But I just like, and someone who

1806
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,399
plays all of these games and always is kind of

1807
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,520
keep an eye on this stuff. Midnight Sense is the

1808
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,239
only game that I can think of that really had

1809
01:22:48,279 --> 01:22:51,000
like good tracking on that. And even then some of

1810
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,800
those were bugged out and not really working properly as

1811
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,800
I mentioned, So I don't know, I feel like the

1812
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,479
tracker needs to get better, and once again, I don't

1813
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,319
know if that's on the ononus of the developers or

1814
01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:02,079
if that's an Xbox thing. And also for a lot

1815
01:23:02,079 --> 01:23:04,920
of these developers where Xbox is like a smaller platform

1816
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,880
than Nintendo or PlayStation, that's like less of a feature

1817
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,199
that they would care to implement if it's just going

1818
01:23:10,239 --> 01:23:12,880
to cost some time and money for like very little game,

1819
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,640
because a lot not a lot of people care about that,

1820
01:23:15,039 --> 01:23:17,359
but it's something I would like to see better improved

1821
01:23:17,399 --> 01:23:21,239
in games because it's really good in theory when it works.

1822
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 2: I feel like Borderlins has something like that. I want

1823
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,680
to say Borderlines too specifically had an in game tracker

1824
01:23:30,079 --> 01:23:32,760
for getting your achievements because I remember, like not like

1825
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,920
the Xboxy but like actually built in the game, actual

1826
01:23:36,079 --> 01:23:39,560
in game Yeah, And I really like that concept a lot.

1827
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's essentially what like Splunky has now, Like

1828
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,239
they didn't have it originally, but when the game came

1829
01:23:46,279 --> 01:23:48,520
up for switching, they kind of implemented the achievements into that.

1830
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,520
I think they put it into all the versions, like

1831
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,399
they like patch it in so you can like see

1832
01:23:52,399 --> 01:23:54,000
that stuff in game too, So it's cool to have

1833
01:23:54,079 --> 01:23:56,880
that art implemented into the world as well, rather than

1834
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:02,159
just being like that miscellaneous achievement art that there. I

1835
01:24:02,199 --> 01:24:05,159
think for me like the one revamp. And I don't

1836
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:06,479
know what you want to do, because I don't think

1837
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,640
you want to just copy PlayStation. But I think one

1838
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,800
thing that's because you like PlayStation has a different tiers

1839
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,359
like bronze, silver, gold, platinum, Xbox has like you know,

1840
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,319
this one's worth ten, this one's worth fifty, this one's

1841
01:24:17,319 --> 01:24:19,439
worth a hundred. But I do feel like there's something

1842
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,439
that hits way harder about the platinum trophy when you've

1843
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,640
gotten all the other achievements and in PlayStation games and

1844
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,960
then you get the platinum at the end, where I

1845
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,520
feel like Xbox would benefit from that. You never really

1846
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,680
have that final moment, like the last achievement you get

1847
01:24:34,039 --> 01:24:37,600
could be like the most random little one that is

1848
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,960
just for five that you hadn't got for some reason,

1849
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,640
and then that's like, Okay, I guess I got it all.

1850
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,359
But I feel like that's something that could hit a

1851
01:24:43,359 --> 01:24:44,720
bit harder, and I don't know, maybe there is something

1852
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,000
implemented in the and UI, and I just haven't got

1853
01:24:47,039 --> 01:24:49,640
one hundredercent achievements in a game in a while. But yeah,

1854
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,560
I feel like that would be nice if there was

1855
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:56,079
some more like nice conclusive finality to it that made

1856
01:24:56,119 --> 01:24:58,000
it feel a bit better when you actually got like

1857
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,600
the final achievement and got one hundred percent in the game.

1858
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,000
So I don't know what they would call that, like,

1859
01:25:03,039 --> 01:25:04,479
I don't I don't know if they'd call it a

1860
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,239
different type of achievement, like a golden achievement or something.

1861
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:09,079
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1862
01:25:09,079 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it would just be tied to a reward like

1863
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,880
something like that, like a wallpaper to be that that

1864
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,720
seems like a great reward for like a Platinum level

1865
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,199
type tier. So I don't know.

1866
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:18,399
Speaker 2: Maybe some games are already doing that.

1867
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,079
Speaker 1: Once again, I'm just not knowing about it, but I

1868
01:25:20,079 --> 01:25:22,520
do think it would be nice if the final achievement

1869
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,960
felt a little bit better, cooler, or more unique.

1870
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,039
Speaker 2: I guess I agree. I agree with them.

1871
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's kind of it

1872
01:25:32,039 --> 01:25:33,880
that I had to talk about with this. I think

1873
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,920
it's a it's a fun topic to bring up because

1874
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,319
it's kind of those things that's just been chugging along

1875
01:25:38,359 --> 01:25:40,119
for a while, but we don't really think about it

1876
01:25:40,119 --> 01:25:42,279
anymore because it kind of comes like part of the background.

1877
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,920
But I still like achievements and I hope they stick

1878
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around forever. I hope Nintendo as them on the next console.

1879
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As I mentioned, I think, you know, Steam already has them,

1880
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PlayStation already has them. I think it just makes sense

1881
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,960
for Nintendo to do that. I don't think they will

1882
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because it's Nintendo.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,079
Speaker 1: I think it'd be really cool for like a Mario

1885
01:25:59,119 --> 01:26:02,039
game to see what kind of weird challenge level achievement

1886
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kind of things they could put in there, just to

1887
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incentivize people to, you know, spending more time to master

1888
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,239
these things. I think that would be pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else, Taylor or is that all for today?

1891
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:16,119
Speaker 2: That's everything?

1892
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,279
Speaker 1: Right on? Thank you for joining me, Thank you over

1893
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,760
for listening. Next week, or rather this week, throughout the weeks,

1894
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Games Calm is happening, so there's gonna be a lot

1895
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of announcements. I hope, some pretty big, juicy announcements, and

1896
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next week's side quest we will break it all down.

1897
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So that should be a good time, hopefully, hopefully get

1898
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,000
some big cool things, find out finding out there, and yeah,

1899
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thank you everyone for listening, and we'll see you again

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next time. Bye bye,