Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to GV side Quest. This is our
weekly video game show here at GIEK Verse. I'm your host,
Del Muls and I have with me the nineteen of
eighties Taylor Field. How are you doing, my friend?
Speaker 2: Doing good? Happy to be here on a wonderful new
episode of side Quest.
Speaker 1: That's what this is. I'm very excited for this episode.
I think we have a lot of fun topics. We've
got some news, a couple game announcements that kind of
came out of nowhere, but our game's coming out this year.
We have some games we've been playing, and then we
have a fun main topic as well, talking about Xbox
and achievements and all that sort of fun stuff. So yeah,
it should be a good episode. Just one quick shout
out here at the beginning, which is that over the
weekend I participated in a game jam, which is essentially
you have the allotted amount of time to make a
game from start to finish, and so I was able
to do that. I made a game called Space Displays
and you can check it out. It's a free game.
It's a space kind of top down sort of thing.
You're flying around, You're shooting some asteroids that kind of thing. Uh,
the theme of the game Jam Taylor was built to scale,
so it's kind of like you're supposed to mess with
the scale of things, either things really big or small
or things change in size and whatnot. And so what
I decided to do is I I made the main
mechanic of the game is you you know, your arrow
keys that moves your ship around. But then the wasd's
you can change the size of the window, like the
game window that you're playing it on, so you're kind
of shrinking the screen and making the screen bigger, and
that will make certain levels easier in that sort of thing.
So it's kind of a fun, weird idea. But yeah,
the game is out now. You can go check it
out on itch dot io. I'll put a link in
the description, but you can also just search space displace
on Itch or you can just I guess even search
my name on itch dot io. Just wrapatika and you
can download it there. So that was a pretty cool experience.
I you know, haven't made a lot of games, and
so trying to make one in in one weekend is
pretty crazy. But you know, it's a small little thing
you can beat in like a minute or two so yeah, do.
Speaker 2: You have to like think about the concept beforehand? Do
you get any like like downtime to kind of like
start prepping and doing notes and stuff like do you
get to do anything like prep work or is it no?
Friday night is when the term the competition starts. That's
when you're allowed to start working on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, technically they say like you shouldn't make anything any
art or any code or anything before it starts, like
you shouldn't have done anything on it. There might be
exceptions to that, Like I don't know for this game,
for example, there's a couple of things I've coded for
other games that I was able to like kind of
like reuse, so I rewrote them, but it's like, oh,
I kind of already made that thing before that does
this particular feature, So I don't know, there's a little
bit of that comes into it. But you're kind of
supposed to make everything from scratch. But yeah, like Friday
morning is when the theme is announced and they're like, go,
you have until Monday at midnight to post it up there.
So it's really like you could spend as much time
thinking and planning as you want, but then it's like
you know, you don't have as much time to develop
a bit, so I know, I think I'm gonna do
a short video kind of talking about the process because
it was kind of interesting, just the breakdown of, like, man,
I have such a little time. I worked on on
my on my own too, so it's like, Okay, how
much time do I want to spend on like music
and sound effects and like art, Like could I just
skip music if aunt of time? Like, you know, I
don't need music in there. But I ended up getting
everything that I wanted to and then some, so I'm
pretty happy with it. I I out did myself for
what I kind of had my expectations of. I've done
one game job before. It was like a month long
things that was very much different, and it was on
a team, so this was a very different kind of experience.
But uh yeah, I'll send you a link as well, Taylor.
You should. You should check it out. It's kind of interesting.
So yeah, that's my one shout out for now. We'll
talk about some other things later, but let's just scar
right into it here. With games that we have been playing,
I just have one to shout out today, So I'm
gonna go first here over the last few weeks, Taylor,
I've been playing some Pokemon Emerald on the well, not
on the Game Boy Advance, the Game Boy Advance cartridge.
Have been playing on my DS. But I was at
a at a flea market in Klona when I was
in not Clone the most recent time, but at the
start of July, and I went to do you ever
go to the flea market there in Rutland On It's
on Rutland Road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, yes, exactly the one.
Speaker 1: There's like a few people there that sell used games
and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And this was not.
Speaker 1: An original cartridge by any means, because it was like
thirty bucks, but it was a I think it was
like a remake replica. It's it's a really nice green cartridge.
So it's on a GBA cartridge. So anyway, I went
and bought that there, and uh, yeah, I've been playing
that for a while. I think I'm like maybe ten
fifteen hours in or something. It's it's interesting going back
to this because I have played what is it?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Omega Ruby? Was the three DS.
Speaker 2: Remake Alpha Sapphire Omega Ruby, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I played the the three DS Ruby version,
and so Emerald is kind of like the third version
from that generation right where it's kind of like the
I don't know. It has features from both of the
games and then some added things as well. But it's
weird because I've played a later remake, so I'm going
back to this one. But as like other features that
that game doesn't have. It's also been a long time
since I played that Ruby one, so it's interesting going
back to this and just like, oh, I remember some
of these Pokemon, don't remember other things, don't remember some
of these story beats. Because you're an Emerald fan, right
like I remember you talking about this one before.
Speaker 2: I love Emerald, and then Sapphire is like my number one.
Speaker 1: Okay, you prefer Sapphire over Emerald, even though.
Speaker 2: Surely for nostalgia.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I like that, you can admit that, because
I was gonna say, I feel like everything I've I've
looked into it is like Emerald just kind of has
more than either individual version, so it's kind of like
the best version. But yeah, the nostalgia definitely speaks true there.
But the one thing that's really stood out to me,
and I saw people talking about this too, is that
I guess Emerald one of the big things with it
is that there's a ton of team battles in the game,
Like you're fighting two trainers like two on two just yeah,
and in the wild in like gyms and stuff, you're
doing a lot of that, And I really like that
because it adds a little bit more variables to the battles,
a little bit more chaos and like trying to planet
who would be the best Pokemon for this given situation,
And so I'm really liking that strategic element of it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, also, I just the GBA.
Speaker 1: The graphics is so perfect, like the limitations, the size,
the pixel or the resolution, everything is so great. The colors.
I just love the look of this game. So it's
been really fun to, uh, to go through this kind
of revisiting it, but kind of also experiencing this, you know,
Emerald for the first time truly, So that's been a
it's been a good time. When when's the last time
you you booted up Emerald or played Emerald? It so
hard was a nostalgia hit, like did you come to
Emerald later or did you also have it kind of
back in the day.
Speaker 2: I got Emerald after the fact, I bought Ruby just
so I could have it, and I actually have. It's funny.
I have two copies of Ruby. I have this one
that's actually not real so beautiful. This is one. Yeah,
And I learned that because I was I was. I
was trading in some old games that I had to
guy who actually sells at that flea market might be
the same guy. Honestly. His name is Matt and his
garage he has. He has a goal and a dream.
Basically it opened up his own old retro video game
storely needs. Yes it does, but it's so expensive, so
he hasn't done it yet. But he's turned his whole
garage into the into the store. He's got shelves you
go in games for days. He's got GameCube, game Boy like,
he's got old consoles. It's so nice in there. I
love seeing the games that he's got.
Speaker 1: I gotta go check that out.
Speaker 2: Next time. I will hook you up with his address.
Super nice guy. He opens up on weekends. I went.
I learned about him because he had tons of Pokemon
cards and I was looking into Pokemon cards and so
I took this Pokemon Ruby and and he's like, oh,
this is a fake. He showed me how to identify it.
I was like, oh my god, he's like here, I
got all these ones that are faked. I got all
these ones that are legit ones. He had fake heart
gold and sold silver ones for the DS. But anyways,
last time I played Emerald was definitely a good fair
bit of time ago. But I remember in elementary school,
me and my friend he had Ruby and he had ooh,
I think he just had a Ruby, and he lent
me his game Boy and I had mine. So I
just game Boy for a weekend, traded his Pokemon to
my Emerald, and then an Emerald I was able to
clone because Emerald had we get to the after you
beat the Elite four, you get to this battle tower area,
and if you use the computer terminal in this Pokemon
Center to the battle tower, you could do some manner
of steps and actually clone Pokemon. And so I cloned
his crowd On so he could have his groud On.
I could get groud On and he wouldn't win another
big dude, that's the red guy. Yeah. Yeah, so there
you go.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah. I mean when it comes to these
Pokemon games, like they're they're so expensive. Whenever I go
to game stores and so I'm like, I don't really
care about having an original one. I just wanted to
play the game, so I was fine to get like
a what is obviously like a knockoff, not on original cartridge.
But that's cool, man, I'm excited to go check that
that place out. I mean, I should probably limit myself
because I could easily spend one hundreds of dollars when
I don't I don't really need to, but yeah, I
don't know, it's just like a nice background thing. I
haven't played a Pokemon game in a bit, and yeah,
I just love the GBA, so I'm down for anything
on that generation.
Speaker 2: So that's been a good time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's the only shout out I
have for today, because really I've just been other.
Speaker 2: Than that, just playing a lot of Mad Max. Still.
Speaker 1: You should if you did ever play that game when
it came out.
Speaker 2: I never it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun. I'm just enjoying going through that.
But yeah, how about you. What have you been playing
in the last few weeks here?
Speaker 2: So I have I indulged in two games. One was
again because when the Gears of War E Day was announced,
it kind of motivated me to get into Gears of
War five and get back into that game, which that
was a lot of fun. That was a lot of
fun to actually just it's such a smooth game. It
feels so polished, and to be able to take those
mechanics and put that back into like that original vibe
that that game has with Marcus and uh, oh my gosh,
I can I remember? Uh? Cat? Domm okay? Marcus? Cat?
Speaker 1: They the name of the other character in the new
one of them?
Speaker 2: Did I make that hat? I think that is the
character and the new one because you got Adam and
I think Cat is like the counterpart. But I'm so
out of touch with like the modern story because they've
it's and it's weird because they brought like the o
G characters, Like they got Coltrane, they got Bared and
then you got like this next generation of characters that
are working with them. Uh yeah, but it's it's good.
It's good. But the main one I wanted to shout
out was the Carlysto protocol and this one is it
was just something I've been waiting to dip my toes into.
I did not want to buy this game by any means.
I really wanted to it seems like not a lot
of people did. Yeah, that's true, and so games pass
was the answer. So once it popped up on there,
I downloaded it, and I really appreciate how tense it is.
There's a few moments that are just freaky with the
way that things are going on around you, as this
world just kind of falling apart. You're on this prison planet.
I don't know have you played it?
Speaker 1: I have not. The reason I reacted is because, for
spoiler for our main topic, I was looking through your
achievements that you have and I saw that you had
a couple popped in Closto protocol. Was like, I don't
when did Taylor play this game? So I wanted to
ask you about it. So that's very funny that you
bring it up here. But yeah, I've not even really
played dead Space. I've watched a lot of Dead Space,
like I remember watching Sarrus play it through a bunch
of it. But yeah, I'm not too familiar with these games.
I did see that closeos on there, and I think
I've kind of slotted it mentally for October and the
spooky season when I'm looking to play some more horror games,
some scary games. But no, I haven't jumped into it yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's I wanted to make the comparison
to Dead Space, and that's something that I just I
can't do. But I play a little bit of dead Space,
and for me, dead Space is the one that I
would pitch over this this one. Definitely. Obviously there are
similarities between these two franchises, but this one just felt
like it got super repetitive. Now. I enjoyed, as I said,
the aesthetic and just the story being trapped in this
prison and you're trying to get out and there's just
all this crazy mutated grossness going on, but yeah, it
just feels like it is easily repetitive when I'm going
through different motions. But I do enjoy the mechanics, and
I'm not sure how the Dead Space games really incorporate
many of these mechanics, but you can, like you have
the police that were operating the prison guards had this
like risk device thing where they could pick you up
with you like using the force like a Jedile rules.
That's because you would have like something on you that
makes you restrained to them and gives them kind of control,
and then you can upgrade your weapons, your melee weapon
or your gun you can be upgrading, and so it's
a lot of fun when you're going around and you're
just moving objects around or like force pushing these guys
or you're like yeah, smashing them with your baton or
using your your pistol, and yeah, there's just there's certain
things that are a lot more difficult and more combat
oriented that I don't like in this game. And I
don't say that because it's difficult. I just don't like
the idea of like, oh, you're going down this gondola
and you got three bad guys just like you're rain
shooting you with like their asset, spit or whatever, and
then you just you appear in front of them and
you just got to go into a full on fight.
I like it when it's sneaking around and you're trying
to like decapitate, not to capitate, take them out silently
and sneakily, and just be more of like a horror game.
And I think that's where a lot of people didn't
like Dead Space three because it kind of turned into
more of an action center game. Yeah, so this has
those little beats in it, and I don't think it
needs that it's a little too simple, but yeah, I'm
still playing through it, and I am I'm having fun
with what I'm doing, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember big thing with the trailers. They were just
showing all the brutal ways that won you can get
killed and like the just really gory deaths, almost like
Mortal Kombat esque. But then also yeah, like the ways
you can rip apart the enemies, and so I yeah,
maybe it's something that's more like style over substance and
that they it all looks really cool when you're ripping
enemies apart and even when you're getting taken out, but
the actual mechanics are are pretty simple. It's a oh sorry,
I was gonna ask about the story and what you
think about the general vibe, because that's why that was
really interesting to me as well, even just the setting
being on what is close to a moon of Saturn
Jupiter one of those two, which is a cool setting.
Speaker 2: So I think I told you guys this story because
Travis is there too. We're at the beach and it's
quite because the game starts off where you're a pilot,
you're doing transporting cargo, and then like some explosions happen
and your pilot like blacks out and then he wakes
up and he's in prison on this on this prison planet.
And it was super super late at night when I
first download this, I'm pretty sure was after like a
Call of Duty session, so it was already like two
thirty or three. I was like, I want to download
this game. I downloaded it and I was going through
the first starting little cut scenes and like I was
passing out and I woke up when he woke up
in his prison bed and his character literally is like
I don't remember what happened, what's going on? I'm like, fuck,
I don't either.
Speaker 1: Super immersive, super.
Speaker 2: Immersive, Yeah, but I think it's it's it's a really
really cool setting. And when you walk out of the prison,
everything's like exploding and destroying. You can see other levels,
prisoners running, you can see like the creatures running around too.
It's it's super freaky nice. Yes.
Speaker 1: I think Dead Space remake is also on game Pass
now right, Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Are you going to jump into that instead? Considering you're
not super enjoying this experience.
Speaker 2: I want to commit and beat this one. I do
have Dead Space. I think one through three, whether it
was games with gold or whatever. I know, I have
all three of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess two and three are probably even just
through a play still available on game Pass anyway. Yeah, yeah, nice.
Any other things you've been playing or is that in
the shoutouts for today?
Speaker 2: I think of that, and yeah, just regular good old
Rebirth Island. Just buying my time for Black Ops six,
which is the first call d D. I'm not actually
buying after many many moons because it's going on games Pass,
I'm not going to buy it. And yeah, if it
was a Modern Warfare sequel, I would drop that money
and buy it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I am, well just because of the shelf,
the collection aspect of it, completionist angle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well usually with Call Duty's I've just
been buying digital versions and I bought the Modern Warfare
ones because I like the incentives with the certain digital
rewards that you could get with war Zone and there's
not really a lot with this. And as much as
I love the zombies experience, the Black Ops kind of
has expanded it in a way like they're preaching like
round based Zombies is backed bigger and better than ever,
which I know a lot of people love. But they
got a lot of the things like the gum drop
machines and all this extra stuff that just kind of
really pulls me out of it. I'm not super into it.
I like the simple, old school Nazi zombies. That's kind
of my jam. Or what Modern Warfare did with the
open world aspect. I think that was a great refreshing
take to the Zombies franchise. But I'm still gonna play it,
and I hope we get Travis in there because I
want to do some round zombies with you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know if there is I'm sure there
is something where like Redfall and Starfield had like their
upgrade versions, you could spend like thirty or forty bucks,
even if you already had game Pass, you could get
this upgrade version that would for the Starfield that the
Grandfather do you into the DLC? You gave you a
couple of random collectibles for Red Fall was supposed to
get you the DLC, but then they canceled it and
then refunded everyone for that anyway, But does Black Ops
have something like that that's not like, Okay, you're not
buying the full game, but it's a way to squeeze
like an extra twenty to forty bucks out of people
like you who would you know, want to get all
the extra content but don't need to buy the game
because of the game pass angle up it.
Speaker 2: Sorry, so you how does that work? Again? You don't
you're not buying the game because you have it on
games Pass. You're buying the uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're buying like what they call it. For Starfield
they had some name for the Constellation Pack, I think,
and so yeah, you got like a couple extra gun skins.
It like it pretty much gives you the DLC. So
it's almost like a season's pass sort of thing. For
Red Fall is a similar thing as well, but it
was like available day one. You could like pre order it,
so that way you could there was still something for
you to buy, even if you're playing it on game
passes potentially right or like hardcore fans I.
Speaker 2: Have, I guess Black Ops would be the first one
to be doing that. I guess bought Over for three
actually is the first quality because that's been officially released
on games past now, but I have not seen that
for Black Ops. At least when I go into my menus,
I'm still prompted to pay like one seventy nine or whatever.
Speaker 1: Right, I guess they still like if they have a
season's pass already for those games, then there doesn't really
make much sense to well some other random thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's what's interesting because I guess those
other well I'm not sure about Red Fall because the
DLC was canned, but at least with this, they don't
do seasons passes anymore for cod right, it's just the
battle passes, I guess. I guess so, yeah, because it
would be uh, is this.
Speaker 1: Are those seasons past things or the battle pass rather?
Are those only for war Zone? Like? Is that the
only No?
Speaker 2: Because the guns multiplayer in general exactly everything multiplayer is
what it's for, Like is there maps included in that?
Or the maps alone? Now all the maps are are
released with like at the beginning of a season and
then like they do a mid season reloaded where they
throw in new maps.
Speaker 1: Or like cosmetics now and like quicker ways to level
up kind of Yeah, right, okay, interesting?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: Well, moving on then, I just wanted this is probably
gonna be a quick shout out, but I had to
bring it up, which is that Amazon Video has announced
that they are gonna be doing a anthology animated series
called Secret Level that is gonna be based on a
few video game ip and I got to bring it
up because one of them that they announced is that
they're making a Splunky animated not an animated show, but
an animated episode. I guess for Spolunkie, even if it
is ten minutes long, I will gladly take this, and
I I cannot wait for it. So I don't I
don't know what to really expect from this in general.
I don't know the exact team, you know, who is
making this show, but I just think it's a really
fun idea. I think an anthology series for games is
a great way for them to kind of test the
waters and see what's successful, what people want to see.
And it's a way for them to do smaller things too,
because they don't have to commit this huge budget to
something like Splunky, which would be a very risky animated
show to pitch unless it had like a very very
small budget. But they announced Splunky and New World, which
is the Amazon MMO, so that one makes a lot
of sense in terms of, oh, it's Amazon who's making this,
They can kind of do this show. It kind of
does some world building for their game, but then it
also maybe brings people to their game, so that one
makes a lot of sense. So it's weird to me
that they announce New World and then also Splunky, but
then none of the other games that are going to
be involved in this. They just kind of tease that
there's going to be PlayStation titles that are included in this.
So a weird announcement to be sure, But man, I
can't wait for this Splunky thing. You know, it's Spunky
for people who haven't played it, which is a lot
of people, Like there's not really a story, Like there
is essentially like a context given to you for why
you're going in these caves, but really the stories are
just like you playing through it and having some fun
experience or a story to tell about it. And so
I feel like it is a perfect ground for that
where I don't really want them to even try and
retell what the basic story of the games is, Like
I think they can just tell some random cave dive
exploring experience and have a good time with that. And
there's a lot of goofy characters. I'm really really curious
to see what the animation style is for this. I
think it's some of the same team behind Love, Death
and Robots, which is a beautiful show visually, and obviously
each episode is a very very different art style, so
I think it doesn't really tell us what these episodes
are gonna look like. I imagine New World would be
a very realistic looking thing, but Splunky could go very
different directions. Even Splunky one and two, and then even
these original Splunky which is like full on eight bit
pixel art, all have very very different art styles to it,
so I'm really curious to see what they do. I
hope they get Derek you, who's the creator of the
game who also does all the art. I hope they
get him involved, even for just like concept art or
like base it off his art, because I would just
love to see that art that I love so much
turned into an animated show. So I cannot wait for that.
I'm no New World in spoln Ca aren't really your
cup of tea, But any PlayStation titles, in particular, any
characters or games or worlds that you would you would
want to see covered in this.
Speaker 2: PlayStation world. As an Xbox guy, it's like a little
big planet.
Speaker 1: That's a great idea, I see, that's the kind of
thing I want to see because we know death Stranding
thing is happening. Ghost of Sushima has like a movie happened,
and death Stranding has did I say that won Her
Horizon has some movie like we already had Twisted Metal,
Uncharteds already happening, Last of Us, like all these things,
I think about it. Goddamn, there's so many PlayStation things
I've already been or are in the process of getting
their shows and or movies, and so I hope this
is a situation where like, Okay, let's aim, let's aim
a bit slower is ro Did God of War get
an announcement too? I forget if that one has been announced,
but it just feels.
Speaker 2: Like one of those ones that should be.
Speaker 1: But if it hasn't, like that, that's not even one
I would want to see here. I think a Little
Big Planet is a perfect pick for this, because once again,
the storytelling could be absolutely whatever. And if it's if
it is love to throw Abalt's ESQ and it's like
a ten to fifteen minute episode, potentially, I think that's
the kind of thing you you would need, and that obviously,
you know, a little Big Planet they always had like
character crossovers too, so that could be a fun way
where you could have like a sack Boy Aloy or
a sack Boy Krados or something that could also be Astrobot,
I guess, And I think Astrobot would be another one
that would be really good and fitting for the scale
of this thing is looking to be. And those make
more sense for like this kind of animated style too,
I think. So, I don't know, I'm hopeful for this,
and I think because Amazon did what's the superhero show
called Invincible, right, and people seem to love that, So
I think that that's a good sign for the team
behind this. But yeah, any any other thoughts on this one.
We don't have much information on yet. I just had
to bring it up because of the because of this
spilunky factor of course.
Speaker 2: No, I just I think it's it's good more more
animated projects. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know these aren't technically PlayStation anymore, but I still
associate Crash and Spiro with.
Speaker 2: With PlayStation and I would love to see uh see.
Speaker 1: I hon to say, I would even take another twisted
metal thing that is more cartoony and silly and like animating,
just like a different I didn't ever watch the show,
so it it's hard for me to comment on the
tone of it. But something that is just like a
simple little like just one battle from Twisted Metal, like
from one of the games, but turned into like a
fifteen minute like Mad Max asque like huge battle, that
would be sick like that, that would be so much.
You don't have to worry about a story. It's just
it's just cars attacking each other. You know. That seems perfect.
So I'm very curious to see more of this. I
don't know when this thing is gonna come out next
year maybe that would probably make sense, maybe even the
year after, so we will see what happens with that.
But that's a pretty cool announcement. Moving on a couple
of game announcements. Actually, let's do that after our first break.
But first, I don't know, Taylor, what is the best
way for someone to support this podcast if they like
what we do. How's the best way to keep the
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Speaker 2: Well, you need to have an internet connection and you
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Speaker 2: What else is dropping on the fees this week?
Speaker 1: Alien rankings, Alien rankings, Yeah, that should be a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you including Isolation in any of your rankings?
Or do you. I mean, I could probably slide it
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in the game. I wasn't initially, but you mentioned I
think I could. It feels worthy?
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we are back. Let's talk about a couple game announcements here,
all things that stem from the world of movies and
TVs getting some crossovers here. So first up is the
this studio by the name of Retro Realms has two
games coming out. A Halloween game, you know, like the
movie Halloween, and then also Ash versus Evil Dead games specifically,
I think they're specifically calling it that, like based on
the TV show rather than just like Evil Dead as
a series, although Ash is a playable character here, of course.
And so these are two retro kind of like sixteen
bit art style sort of games, retro style two D platformers,
maybe hack and slashy bit of like a beat them
up type game. And the idea here is that both
these games are coming out at the same time. You
can buy either one of them for like twenty five
thirty bucks. Or you can buy them as a combo
pack together and then you can like cross stuff over
so you can play his ash in the Halloween game,
or vice versa with what's the guy from Halloween? I
just forget these characters' names. Michael Myers, Yeah, Michael Myers,
thank you, Freddie Jason, I, I don't know where these
people come from, So yeah, it's interesting. I think the
trailer for this looked great, Like I think the art
style looks fantastic. I don't know how fun the gameplay
is gonna be, Like, it looks pretty basic. I think
if you're really deep into these ip it'd be really fun.
I'm sure there's tons of references in there in fun unlocks,
and really just the aesthetics are top notch. But what
did you what do you think of these the trailer
for these combo of games?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the as you said, the aesthetic, it
was a lot of fun. Then it was really really
nice Visually deciding if both games are gonna be very
different from each other, I don't know. I guess it
really depends as a fan what aesthetic you are looking for,
what you prefer. I don't I don't know how well
it's gonna do though, if you were to buy both
of them. That being said, it works for Pokemon because
they sell like well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can look at Pokemon for
how well this is gonna do.
Speaker 2: But I like the comparison. At least I would love
to actually try it and play it, but I don't
know if I would be able to justify dropping the
dollars and and buying it. But I do love the
crossover idea. I think that's a lot of fun, especially
because they're two very different universes. To just pitch together
and put Ash inside the Halloween universe, that's a lot
of fun and vice versa Michael Myers. And again there's
there's Prude or DLC, which is pretty cool. So to me,
that shows that, Okay, maybe there's some future kind of
content they're going to be expanding with with this game.
But I just wear like, okay, how short is it?
Is it gonna be super repetitive? What is the main
goal in here? Like? What do you get? What do
you get when you get to the end of the game, right,
mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm curious to see how these things do.
I think it's like sixty bucks Canadian like plus tax
to get both of these things. So it does feel
kind of steep for what these games are. Maybe they
are extensive, but they just don't look that extensive to me.
They do seem pretty basic. I do compare a little
bit to the TM and T game that came out
a couple of years ago that had a lot of multiplayer,
which I think was where a lot of the fun
came from Shredder's Revenge that game, but I really enjoyed that,
and I don't really like that genre. So I do
feel like this is kind of in that same pocket,
and it seems like that same kind of developer love
nostalgia angle that they're going for here could really work.
The crossover stuff's great. You mentioned the pre order bonus.
I think what it is is you get Lori, who's
like Jamie Lee Curtis's character from Halloween right in there,
and then character from the Ashvers's Evil the TV show,
which I haven't seen, so I didn't recognize the character,
which is, you know, a little like I would have preferred,
I kind of forget her name, but from like Fede's
Hallel Dead, your name was Kelly Yeah, wow, that's I
don't know why I didn't. I didn't expect it to
be Kelly for some reason, though I did watch that
movie recently. But yeah, I don't know, I like I
would have preferred something like that. But it does seem
like more characters are coming down the road, and I
don't know if they're gonna Nicklandmas for all of these
additional characters. It seems like maybe they will, So I
don't know. I don't know if I've been of love
for these series to want to drop the as you mentioned,
like the dollars for this particular thing, but I think
it's just really cool and I hope these games do well.
And if they come out in October, I honestly could
see myself just impulse buying them because of the season,
the season of it. So they are supposed to come
out this year, which is interesting. So yeah, those those
look interesting. They look all right. We'll keep an eye
on those. And then the other one was this game
just announced today or yesterday. It's called Kong Survivor Instinct,
and this is a game set in the kind of
Kong universe, of course, where you play as a You
play as a little guy you play as a survivor,
a regular human, and you're kind of going through what
looks very much like a post apocalyptic type of world, Like,
seems like there's very few people in this world you're
kind of going through, and it seems like the general
idea here is that there's the name of this big
spider Kaiju character.
Speaker 2: Oh, Cilia Celia.
Speaker 1: That sounds that name sounds too nice for how disgusting
this monster is.
Speaker 2: It's s c y L l A. I don't know
how you pronounced that.
Speaker 1: Celia Celia Celia, So yeah, Celia. Therefore, it seems to
be the kind of main antagonist in this so you're
kind of having to dodge Celia's attacks, big strikes, crashing
buildings on top of you, that kind of thing. And
it seems like Kong is going to come in here
and save the day, help you out Knox the the
other way. And I'm guessing at some point, like because
Kong is very very narrowly in this trailer, even in
the first place, but it kind of seems like it
would be a bond that you're building between your character
and Kong, and I don't know what Kong has to
do with your character and why you'd want to protect him.
But I'm guessing at some points, like Kong will lift
you up onto some building or move you around. It
doesn't seem like you'd ever control Kong in this game.
Seems like you are supposed to be this, this survivor character,
this human. But what did you think of this trailer
for this game?
Speaker 2: I was not expecting it. It kind of caught me
by surprise. I'm just gonna say it might not be Silla,
might be Koumonga, might be.
Speaker 1: The other spider spiders Chet Spiders.
Speaker 2: I think that the gameplay mechanic looks pretty interesting and
something that I was not anticipating. I know where I
stand when it comes to a Godzilla game. I know
exactly what I want. I was sharing that in the
discord earlier. But as far as I'm concerned, this is
something that I would still be interested in trying. It
seems like it's got a cool story to or your
guy trying to track down your daughter who is supposedly missing.
And I'm I'm I was a big fan of the
Monarch show, and so these expanded stories that take place
outside of the main movies, I do find them interesting
and engaging, and so this being for whatever reason, it's
after Godzilla versus Kong, and so Kong is back on
the surface and he's fighting a little bit, and it
almost looked like your character when you entered the boss fight,
like he he activated or I don't know, if it's
something you could just pull out of your your pull
out from thin air whatever you need, like if your
ability's charged up and you can just summon Kong or
something like that by activating on a device or something
or rather, I'm not sure, but that's how it felt
to me, and the trailer. Maybe it was specifically just
a cut scene for this battle sequence to unfold, but
I'm curious where Godzilla falls into play, if he will
in here. But it was titled a Kong game, So
this is definitely, in my opinion, to step up from
that Skull Island fucking nightmare game that we got, a.
Speaker 1: Game that they just pooped out onto the East Shop
pretty much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that and Sneaking or gall On, those two games
are a match made in heaven.
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for the right discount on Gollum. Even
seventy nine off that they've done is not enough for
me to go to like five dollars or less. That's
because I'll when I'll buy it and finally check it out. Yeah,
this game is so that you said the setting. Why
does this game feel so post apocalyptic?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Like, that's not the vibe I watched. I don't watch
all these movies, but I did watch its fucking icy
k What was the newest one Kingdom of ash No?
That was it one reviewed this year? What the hell
is that movie called?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, The Godzilla and Kang The New Empire.
Speaker 1: The New Empire Empire such a bad subtitle. Yeah, I
was thinking I was mixing it up with Ghostbusters Frozen
Frozen Empire. That's where I was getting the ice from.
But like, it doesn't seem like a post apocalypse world
to me at all. So it was like, did the
vibe seem weird to you in this in this game
that it just looks like Last of Us the way
you're going through these destroyed buildings and there's you know,
a couple uh kind of bandits that are fighting you,
but you're not like seeing other humans. Uh it kind
of it kind of did, But at the same time,
like this world I'm so used to seeing just to
destroyed cities and you're roaming around through destroyed areas, and yeah,
post apocalyptic, it's like a mass extinction event like that.
It's just like some people die, but it's not true.
Speaker 2: But and that's where I'm curious what the story is about,
because maybe this city where your daughter is missing is
like under lockdown because the Spider creature won't leave and
it's like taking over the city and Godzilla's not going
there to do anything. And that's why Kong kind of
just pops up to maybe save the city. Uh So,
I'm sure maybe there's some kind of tie in there,
and that's why it's so post apocalyptic because in the
show The Monarchs show, of course they were trying to
clean up San Francisco after the first movie, but it
still did feel post apocalyptic, like like they wouldn't let
just anybody into the city and there's yeah, there's slockdowns
and yeah, yeah, that's uh okay, that that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I think it is a cool setting.
It's just not what I was expecting for this.
Speaker 2: I do think the if.
Speaker 1: Anyone hasn't watched the trailer yet and you're just listening
to us, describe it like I do feel like visually
this game does look you know, lower budget. Graphically, it's
not quite as strong. It's not not a Triple A
game by any means, but I don't I don't think
there's anything wrong with that. I do think the gameplay
looks pretty cool. Actually, the way you're going through these environments,
it almost seemed a little bit immersive to me, like
there's different ways you can kind of figure out these
puzzles to get through these certain areas. It doesn' seem
like there's a lot of puzzle solving in terms of like, oh,
there's some rubble in your way, how are you gonna
get around it? Are you going to unlock this door
using explosives to blow open doors? I don't know, a
lot of cool little things in there, So I'm pretty
into it. Like this looks really fun to me. Once again,
it's a it's a price price tag thing. But this
is another game that announced just today coming out this year.
They like they have a twenty twenty four in the trailer,
so I'm curious when it's gonna come out. It just
feels like, I don't know, maybe that doesn't have a
huge marketing budget behind it, which would make sense if
it is a smaller game once, but I don't know.
I'm really liking to see like these these big ip,
these big movie ip being given to what I assume
are smaller teams who presumably love these characters and have
wanted to make games about these people, And are I
don't know, making something cool with it instead of that
calling Skull Island game that you mentioned, which just seemed
like a really lazy cash grab that was not even
a successful cash grab in the first place. So I'm
into this game. Do you do you think you are
gonna pick this one up? Like this is a day
one you gotta wait and see more? Is it a
wait and see the price?
Speaker 2: Like? Where are you at with it? I need to
see the price. I would not, as much as I
would like to try it, I would not be rushing
day one for it if it was well, if it
was the right price, maybe, but I feel like this
is also something that could probably go on sale really
really fast, and so that makes me apprehensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. And yeah, I looked at into the
studio that's making it I'm not familiar with, and I
didn't recognize anything that they've done before. So a little
bit of un them quantity, but I don't know. Hopefully
this game is pretty good. Once again, that was called
Kong Survivor Instinct and then I didn't actually put this
in our notes Tailor, but I'll just throw this at
you because I just saw this because it's a rumor,
but I saw a rumor that it looks like, well,
obviously Xbox Microsoft purchased Activision, and along with Activision there
is a ton of random ass license games from back
in the day, and it looks like the rumor is
that Xbox might be looking to try and revive some
of the licenses for some of these older Marvel games.
I don't know if you've seen recently, but like that
old Deadpool game is like very expensive for people to
trying to buy it right now, I guess holt off
of Deadpool Wolverine, but this could also mean Ultimate Alliance
one and two of those games could come back into
the shop and along with them, like I'm sure tons
of old Spider Man games. There's like Fantastic four games,
There's all sorts of license games from back in the day.
So I think this would be great because people have
been talking about that for years, Like Okay, with the
Marvel craze, all these Marvel games coming out. A lot
of these Marvel games aren't doing super hot, like Guardians
and Midnight Sound. Then there's other Avengers, of course, but
there's other ones like Spider Man and Marvel Snap that
are very successful. And it seems, you know, PlayStation as
their exclusive, Nintendo got Ultimate Alliance three as their exclusive.
Where's Xbox? Why aren't they getting in the mix here?
They do have Blade coming out now, so that is
one of their things, but that is maybe a little
bit of them acquiring that studio rather than like going
for it on their own. But I think this would
be actually a great way for them to have some
Marvel presence on their platform if they just, like if
they just revived it for Xbox and not for the
other platforms. I think that would be a thing that
would flock people to the console in some way. And
like I desperately want to get Ultimate Alliance one and
two again, and I could buy, you know, like a
three sixty version or a GameCube version. I see them
all the time at game stores, but then you can't
really get the DLC and a lot of that stuff's
gated or like exclusive and weird way. So it's just
hard to get those games anymore, which is too bad
when the licenses aspire on things like that. But man,
I would I would love to see that. I think
that would be really cool if they'd get some of
those games back up and running. And I think every
any game, you know, we we hate to see games
that get delisted and lost of time like that. It's
just too bad, especially for Ultimateized Wanting too that still
play pretty well, still look pretty decent. You know, they
can get away with it. So I don't know any
any any thoughts on what I mentioned.
Speaker 2: I think that that is a huge, huge gold mine
if you were to be tapping into those old titles
like that and just be giving them life again. I
think that that is the right thing to do. Yeah,
so I'm there for it. Xbox needs to have some
more Marvel titles, if you ask me, and let's let's
make it happen.
Speaker 1: Let's make it happen. Okay, with that, let's speaking of Xbox,
move into our topic of the day here. So, Taylor,
I have had this this topic on my calendar for
a bit and I wanted to.
Speaker 2: Do it with you a couple of months ago.
Speaker 1: And then Xbox, like you know, announced the layoffs of
all those studios, and I was like, fuck, ex, I
don't want to talk about Xbox right and I don't
want to talk about my love for like Xbox stuff.
But the time feels right now, and I think the
timing for this is we're talking about Xbox achievements, just
like that kind of basic feature there. I think it's
timely because I just recently crossed fifty thousand gamer Score
and I know that you when I was looking at
you you also I don't know if you crossed it recently,
but you're also like just above fifty thousands or like
a very similar achievement number, which is a funny thing
to see. But yeah, I guess just very basically, like
when you back in the day playing your through sixty,
what did you think of Xbox achievements as like a
new feature for video games? And how do you feel
about achievements today in twenty twenty four, Like, do you
care at all when you see them pop you turn
off the notifications, do you still get excited? Where are
you at with achievements?
Speaker 2: Back in the day, Yes, Achievement hunting was something I
was very, very into and I would always make a
point like I would pop my game in, I would
look and see, okay, what achievements are here, and if
there were certain things you had to do in so
missions to get those achievements, I'd be doing them. I
was really really into that, and then that kind of
has transitioned into more so I keep the notifications on
because I like to see them, and the only I'm
not actively hunting to do the achievements, but there are
certain circumstances where I can I can I can tell like, okay,
well this way, this level is set up. If I
do something like this way, I know this is probably
be an achievement, because some achievements are a lot easier
to do nowadays. And I will try just to get
my gamers score up overall, not necessarily just for COMPLETIONNIS
on a game or just to get the achievements. It's
more so just to get the achievement to boost my
gamer score. I'm not actively trying to increase my gamer
score because Xbox has that, hey, this is where you
rank in the month for your friends for how much
gamer score you have. I don't really pay much mind
to that. I'm just doing it for fun for myself.
Speaker 1: If you do, you'll I think you'll see me number one.
All the game pass things that I play. I'm like
always top of my friends score kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Jessica used to I think it was back in Target days,
like she was just mopping the floor with me. She
was I don't think I have her on as an Xboxer.
Speaker 1: I gonna add her on there, and I don't think
she's playing Xbox these days, but just to historically go
check it out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no there. I'm just looking through my achievements
right now, and yeah, it's there's there's a lot on here,
and there's not many games that I've I've one hundred
percent achievement wise on here either, But I like that.
It's the same for PlayStation with trophies. It's it's the
exact same thing. But I've always kind of just I'm biased.
I like the achievements, and there's definitely some achievements that
I am proud of, and one there's I have one
achievement that got away and I've never been able to
go back and do it, and it's that one hurts.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna write that down. We'll circle
back as we love to do the one that got away.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I have a very very similar
story to you. Three sixty achievements back in the day,
I remember that was like such a cool thing for me.
I don't know, I feel like even before I had
a three sixty and was getting achievements, I was still
something I like to do in games that I was
a really big fan of. Was like with their in
in game achievement systems, you know, their completion, their checklists,
all those kind of things. I would always for games
I really loved. I'd want to do everything I could
in them, and so when they just like became an
official feature, it was a thing that made a lot
of sense for me. And I feel like I kind
of romanticized it a little bit because I, you know,
would go over my cousin's place. He had his three
sixty before I had mine, and it just seemed like
a really fun thing to do, and I remember doing
some achievement hunting with him. And when I eventually got
my three sixty, I was into that too. Not like
I wasn't renting games or buying games just for the achievements.
It was more like Okay, I already had this game.
Let me try and get all the achievements or get
as many as I can, or just look through the list,
where are some easy ones that I can get out
there just to get increase that gamer score kind of thing.
And I guess I kind of had a blank period
there because I didn't have the Xbox One, so I
was just out of it for an entire generation, and
then coming back with the series X, I'm still really
into it. I really love the achievement system as I
do the trophy system. I wish that Nintendo would implement
something of their own, because obviously the third party games,
they wouldn't have to even think about it because they
can just you know, have the same list brought over there.
But I think it would just add a lot for
certain Nintendo games as well. But we'll talk about that
a little bit later on. So I still get that
dopamine hit whenever I get an achievement, and I don't
really achievement hunt anymore. But I guess usually for me,
if I've played through a game and I'm at like
eighty ninety percent after I've beaten it, and it's a
game that I am not like disliking and I'm ready
to uninstall. I'll always check that list and see, oh
how close am I? How easy is it going to be?
I think like both the hell Blade games, because I
played those recently, I was very close to getting it,
like all the achievements in them. But then I look
and it's like, you know, get every single collectible in
every level, which would require me to play through the
whole game. Again, I'm like, no way, I'm not doing that,
even if I only have one or two achievements to go.
But a lot of the time I will go for them,
and I think it is especially like as I said,
with playing into a lot of game pass things, it's
just a I don't know, that's always a little mini game,
and I can kind of a game within the game,
so to speak. So yeah, I'm still a big fan
of them, even if I'm not a quote unquote achievement hunter.
But I don't know, there's something about achievements that, just
like Steam achievements, they never really hit for me. They
just don't have the same dopamine to them. And they
do pop up on your screen they have a little
sound effect. But I've never cared how much Steam achievement
points or whatever they call it.
Speaker 2: I've never cared about that value.
Speaker 1: And with trophies, just because I've only ever owned a
PS four, I'm just so out of it that my score,
my overall trophy count is so measly that I don't
really care to get it much higher. But yeah, something
about achievements is like it's fun to to keep tracking,
like oh, I just crossed forty thousand today, or it
was fun to see that fifty thousand beat and Taylor
issue challenged you. I like I just recently took over you,
I think because I think, especially with you being in
the Xbox one generation, you were getting achievements that whole time.
Speaker 2: I was behind for a while.
Speaker 1: But I think once again, with all these game pass things,
I have crossed you now and I have beat unless.
In the last few days, you've been going ham and
I and I miss no.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: I officially have more achievements than you, which is kind
of It's a fun little point of comparison, becau I
feel like I would always look at your number like
damn Taylor's crushing over there, and now I'm in there
in the big leagues with you with a fifty.
Speaker 2: K mark fifty k it feels good, which.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, that essentially means like one
hundred percent completion in fifty games. Obviously it ends up
being spread out across more games, but's it's kind of
a pretty big number for one platform.
Speaker 2: I would say, absolutely.
Speaker 1: M So let's let's talk about some of our favorites
at this point. And I mean, I've got to start
with what is the one that got away? Tell me,
tell me that story.
Speaker 2: Okay, now callity. Zombie achievements are some of the most
craziest fucking.
Speaker 1: Things I have ever looked at those I'm curious.
Speaker 2: The Easter eggs are absolutely nuts. So's there's regular zombie
achievements like an ascension pack, a punch of weapon before
round eight. You got to work as a team to
do that, and someone's got to make sacrifices that you
can actually pull that off. H There's what's another one
that we got here, fire pack, a punch, ballistic knife,
and a down ally to revive them from a distance. So
buy every weapon off the walls and a single zombies game.
There's all those different types of.
Speaker 1: Those are really creative though, Like I think those are
really fun ones like buying every wall weapon. That's a
really that'd be a fun challenge run to do so
that that's good. Like I think that's some games are
really lazy with achievements, just like beat Chapter one, Beat
Chapter two exactly, beat the game on normal, beat the
game on Hard. But I think when games get really
creative with them and like give you a challenge that
you wouldn't otherwise.
Speaker 2: Think to do, that that just adds so much to
the game.
Speaker 1: So those are some cool ones.
Speaker 2: For zombies, they're very, very nice, And it's the Easter
egg ones that are the most difficult. And each one
in Black Ops, the Black Ops one, each map had
that you had called the Dead, which is that snowy
one with Georgi ra Merriw was like the main zombie
walking around and doing that Easter Egg was a nightmare.
But I remember I remember going on to I don't
even know if it was red it was just a
forum back in the day in early two thousands or sorry,
a mid twenty tens, because I would have been high
school and with my friends after school is like, Okay,
we're gonna try, We're gonna try, and it would be
like five hours of all four of us together working
through this easter egg, and then when we're done and
we get the achievement at the end, it's like, man,
that felt so freaking good. And when I look at
it today and I'm looking at that specific achievement for
doing that, it's, oh, where did it go? I just
had it. It was like one point sixty seven percent
have completed this, and to know that I'm like a
part of that, it's like, yeah, it feels good. But
the one that got away was on the moon.
Speaker 1: There was sension or is a different map.
Speaker 2: The act it's it's called like it's called the moon.
So you actually go to the you go to the moon.
Speaker 1: Yeah different, is the gravity different? You're like flying around night?
Speaker 2: Okay, change it's it's a wild time and uh yes
you can go into like the space station stuff like that.
So that was basically a two part easter egg. You
get all the way through the main east strike and
then it continues on. You do the next few steps
and complete the back.
Speaker 1: Sorry. By doing these these strikes, you just have to
go to certain rooms and like interact with the thing.
Speaker 2: Right usually is what it is? Oh not necessarily.
Speaker 1: I remember on a sension it was like there's a
little bubble heads and you have to like go knife
them or and they would like spawn in different spots.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so in this case, let's say there was
the jungle. I can't remember what it was called exactly,
but there's the jungle level not Shino Numa, but his
actual jungle. And you had spike moars, so it was
clay wars wouldn't spikes on them. And there were these
two tunnels on the map, and one of the tunnels
had holes along its walls in a specific spot. So
what you had to do is you had to put
a spike more down facing those holes, and you had
to lure specifically a fire napalm zombie down that hallway
and have it explode and then it lights up and
hits the wall. And that's just one of the things
that you'd have to do. Other things could be like
your buddy is up on this railing. He knife's this
glass bottle that's frozen too the railing. The bottle falls
and you have to be under it and hit xt
to catch it. If you don't, it breaks, you lose
your progress. You got to start over. Oh it stresses
me out thinking about all this stuff. But on the moon,
me and my friend successfully did the first Easter Egg
and we were continuing. We got that achievement and we
were continuing to do the next Easter Egg on the map,
and we just needed a ray gun I believe it was,
and my friend pulled it from the box, but he
didn't get it in time because he ran and he
was also cutting zombies, like, oh, we need the raga,
we need the raygun for this next step, but he
couldn't get it in time, and then we all got
downed and we we died, and I was like fuck
and we never retried it since I just don't have
the strength to go back and do that one again.
I would need a full dedicated squad. But yeah, yeah,
they kept that up with Black Ops too. There was
like an underground mining site that you go to and
it turns out to be like this midwestern underground site
with like a maze and like a Midwestern saloon and stuff.
It was a lot of fun and that was another achievement,
like survived like a full wave inside the maze against
the zombies and there's like a haunted witch inside the
this haunted house in there too. It was that was
a lot of fun that map.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, I want to go check out some
of those some of those maps. I don't know if
I want to go do all the Easter Egg hunting
necessarily speaking, but that's cool. I think that The first
one that comes to mind, very random for me, the
first one that comes to mind when I think at
Xbox Achievements is Resident Evil.
Speaker 2: Five, very randomly.
Speaker 1: I remember being at my cousin's place and we had
rented this game for the weekend. This is my memory,
could be, maybe it was a longer period of time,
I'm not sure. And over the course of this weekend
we went through and beat because this was a Resident
Evil five was a co op one, and so you
would I remember, we would do every city. You'd have
to get like every single collectible, like all these freaking
garnets and gems and random spots. You'd have to upgrade
all the weapons to like golden weapons, or at least
get like the golden gatling gun or something like that.
And just like I don't I don't remember. I really
don't remember the specific of it in the way that
you can remember some of these zombies ones. But I
don't know why what it was about that game, But
we were just obsessed with it and trying to get
one hundred percent completion, and it was just such a
fun goal for us. And so I feel like we
had to play their old levels like multiple times and
figure out all these things, and we had like guides open,
and I feel like some of these guys were kind
of limited to so we needed like YouTube videos to
show us where like certain things were. And it was
just such a fun time. And I feel like games
like that like that, and an Army of Two was
like another favorite of ours. There was like these perfect
like third person co op split screen shooters were like
the Be's knees back in middle school high school days.
And yeah, Resident Evil five was like a really iconic
one for some reason. And then I remember when I
eventually got my three sixties as well. I did it again,
I think with another friend of mine McCall. I think
we did that same thing again where we went through
and got one hundred percent completion in it. So I've
got one hundred percent completion and Reside Evil five twice
on different consoles for whatever reason. It's funny how little
of that game I remember today, even though I clearly
played a ton of it, and like it was only
like ten fifteen years ago or something. So I'm curious
if they do one day do a remake of that
and I pick it up and replay that game, because yeah,
I had some great memories within that was that was
a very very fun time.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what it is about that.
Speaker 1: Game, but that is like the first achievement that comes
to mind when I think of think of my time there,
and I think, so I got like a thousand gamer score,
and then when I was looking at it when I
was checking my list before this episode, I think they
added DLC at some point, so I like don't have
all the achievements now, which is always frustrating when that happens.
I remember Halo three was one of those where like
they just kept adding achievements to that game over and
over and over again. I got all of them, got
all of them again, but then they just keep adding
new maps and I even know where all these achievements
come from. I think a lot of them are like
multiplayer achievements. But yeah, I remember Halo three was an
iconic one as well, of course because of going for
recon armor and having to do all these things and
be these levels, all these skulls activated everything on legendary
and then like multiplayer stuff were there were so many
in Halo three.
Speaker 2: That was probably one of my favorites as well when.
Speaker 1: It came to achievements, just because I love that game
so much and there was so much to it between
the multiplayer single player Forge mode that even just having
more to do with the checking off the check boxes,
and then when you had odst in there as well,
with like the bonus maps and that kind of content
as well. There was just there was so much to
do in that game, and still have not done at all,
but I don't know if I ever will at this point.
Speaker 2: There's three games I believe in my list that I
have one for achievements. The first one was Sassin Skreek
two okay one and Kirkland's done that too. That's the
one where we talked about we're proud of the Other
one that I have is Overcooked one.
Speaker 1: I saw that on your list, such a funny one.
Do you remember much like how was that achieve Is
there weird achievements in that or is it more just
like get gold stars on every level?
Speaker 2: Ah? I don't remember what it was like. I remember.
I do remember though. Madison's friend was visiting and she
this is the first time I met her, and she
was big into gaming, and so we're playing over Hooked
and we just got super hooked and she's like, oh wow,
there's only a few achievements left because we ended up
we did the main story mode that they had. She
helped me beat the game, and then we just kept
playing and we just finished getting all the other achievements,
because I think there was like, let's see what we
got here. Complete, yeah, complete the kitchen in the underworld,
complete the kitchen, and versus mode. So they're very simple achievements.
There's only a couple in here be awarded three stars
in every kitchen and so the that was a lot
of fun. Then the other one that I have is Transformers.
I think Rise of the Fallen is the one I have,
or maybe it was Dark Side of the Moon or
is it on this list.
Speaker 1: Either or it's it was a I was scrolling through
your list and I saw that as well. I didn't
I just wrote down Transformers.
Speaker 2: I didn't write down the Yeah. And that was back
in high school, and I don't think I had War
for cyber or Fall of Cybertron. I think there was
War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron both. Yeah, War
for Cybertron, that's the one I played. That one. I
really loved that game. And so then I played this
other Transformers game based on the movie, and that one
was a lot of fun. The concept of just being
able to transform into your vehicle as you're running around
and transform back and you're like your bipedal form and
it's a shooter game too, is a lot of fun.
And playing that based on the movie was great because
this movie game, this game based on the movie had
multiplayer as well in it as well, so you're playing
against other people online. It was just a really really
awesome game and a good time. And that was just
one that I looked at and thought, Man, these achievements
aren't that difficult, and there's not a lot of them,
so this is definitely doable if I wanted to complete it.
And I ended up going through it and completing it,
and I'm glad I did because there's a lot of
games that are just dead games now. But it's cool
looking back and I'm like, you know what, I got
all those achievements, so I don't have to worry about
that ever again in my life, even though the multiplayer
has been closed down.
Speaker 1: That is a pet peep of mine. I think multiplayer
achievements should just be banned or like should somehow be
separately integrated into the games. I think that's such an
annoying aspect of some games where it's just impossible to
get those achievements anymore because servers have been shut off
or I think that's like a big thing. I saw
people playing about with like Fable two or three. There
was something where you like connect to the internet and
like some online feature with it, and that's like the
only way to get that achievement. And so there's a
lot of people who have like ninety nine percent in
like whatever failable game in this is, but they just
can't get that last one because it's not available anymore.
Speaker 2: I just hate that.
Speaker 1: Like, I think there is some fun multiplayer achievement things
to be had, and I think something like Zombies like
that seems fine to me, even though that's you know,
multiplayer PvE sort of situation. Yeah, I think straight up
multiplayer achievements, especially when they're just like get a hundred
kills within assault rifle.
Speaker 2: Like that's such a boring.
Speaker 1: Achievement, Like make that some incentive in game. It gives
you like an XP bonus, but don't make it an achievement.
Come on, that's not that's not worth it. So yeah,
there are those are some pet peeve ones for me.
But I guess you're right, like they do feel more special.
I guess because they're exclusive essentially no longer unlockable achievements.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have one more. I'm gonna shot a one
proud one that I did not work for. My friend
came over back when we had Guitar Hero and he
played through the Fire and Flames on Expert Like he's
fucking skilled at this shit. He got me the achievement
for me just to have on my profile. Wow. But yeah,
he just he'd rip on that guitar. It was great, man.
Speaker 1: I wonder if I'll ever beat that song because back
in the day I was was hardcore into Guitar Hero
three uh, and I I think I I think my
best on Through the Fire Flames on Expert is like
seventy percent of the song. So I made it through
that like initial section that is savage and through various sequences.
But yeah, like I forget what exactly is occurring in
that seventy percent ish area, but it just is so
freaking hard. So it's one of those things where like, man,
you can't play that game on anything but a CRT,
Like you need an old fat TV that has no
leag you can't play it on a modern TV. So
I have that the right situation set up, and I
don't think I had, like I don't have the proofer
role anymore so, and if you ever played it like
Scandy or something like, goddamn those are savage, how bad
those guitars are like the shreds.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wonder if I'll ever beat You know, I always
felt like I eventually would beat that song someday, But.
Speaker 2: Now the older I am, it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: My reaction time is probably worse than it was when
I was playing in middle school high school, So I
don't know. I don't know if I'll ever beat it.
And my wrists, I feel like they would just shatter
these days we do that, or if so many wrist
issues from climbing, so that would be a good that
I should have set that goal for my for the
next two years to finally beat through the firing flames.
That would be a good goal.
Speaker 2: On the charity stream. That'd be wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if anyone still has that, we should definitely plug
it in. That would be That would be a good time.
When I was going through your list and looking at
ones that stood out to me, I mean there was
you actually brought up some of them that I was
gonna bring up already. But I feel like half of
your gamer score must be from like Halo CAD and
Assassin's Creed, like those three series combined together, because you
have like all those games you've played, and you don't
have one hundred percent achievements in all of them, but
you have just like a few hundred in each And
like a lot of these Assassin's Creed games or Halo
cod that I looked at on your list, a lot
of these you have like eight nine hundred gamers score,
and some of them might have DLC, so it might
not be might have more than a thousand, but you
have a lot in so many of these games that
I feel like your overall ratio is probably so much
from those three series, which I just find very fitting
and very perfect.
Speaker 2: I wish that I could kind of filter them out
and look, because yeah, like Black Ops one ninety five
at a seventeen hundred, again a lot of achievements at
a so multiplayer master Chief Collection seventeen forty of seven thousand,
seven thousands. Fuck, that's nuts.
Speaker 1: That's actually crazy. I guess it is seven games, or
is it? Because Halo three had more than a thousand,
So I wonder if that would be how many games
is the Master Chief Collection again?
Speaker 2: Five? Because it has the odst in there.
Speaker 1: Crazy, that's insane. That must be the record for like
highest or single game with highest achievement number in it.
I kind of think, so that's we'll see a Thieves five,
four and sixty. That's crazy. That makes sense, but it's
surprising to hear still.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, you're right, Like there's a few Assassin's
Creed titles where I don't have a lot of achievements
in there. But yeah, there's there's a few games stated
to K two eight hundred and sixty out of twenty
four hundred. There's a few Black Ops that I really
have low low ones, but you get those achievements through
doing the campaign, and I mostly have just committed just
to the multiplayer side of those ones. But yeah, there's
a few in here that are high. My Reach is
eleven twenty five out of seventeen hundred, Advanced Warfare one
thousand and seventy out of two thousand. Here's Wear two
is high, Black Ops two is high. Yeah, so there's
a few heavy hitters in here, which is nice to
look at. Yeah. Yeah, some other ones, I mean, for
me my list also.
Speaker 1: Like caud In Halo take up a lot of those
ton of achievements from those two series. I have over
a thousand in Midnight suns Now, which is cool. There
was DLC achievements there, And one frustrating part with that
one is I remember when I was playing through that,
a lot of the I think it was from the
Deadpool DLC specifically, a lot of the achievements were bugged,
and I think like they eventually resolved the bug, but
like you would have to replay it in order to
actually get the achievements now, like they can't retroactively give
it to you anymore. So there's some that I'm just
kind of locked out of. And then one of them
is just completely savage, where it's like you need to
get one hundred percent because there's like, you know, a
light or dark system in that game. You need to
get like one hundred percent light and one hundred percent darks.
That would require two full playthroughs, and even on one
my my one playthrough, which is all the DLC, I
could never get to one hundred percent dark, even though
I always chose dark as options. So I don't know
one achievement in that game would hold me back from
every getting one hundred percent and those those glitch tot
ones unfortunately, but that was that was fun getting a
lot of those in that, especially with the DLC adding
a few more in there over one thousand. In Borderlands
once again, don't think I have one hundred percent in it,
but have a lot in there. I saw that I
have nine hundred and ninety and oblivion, which actually makes
me so mad, like I need I need to go
back in there and get an extra ten because I think,
once again DLC brings it over a thousand, but I
should definitely go back in there just to hit that
over one thousand mark. Geometry Wars has really fun achievement lists,
like really makes me play the game in weird creative ways.
Speaker 2: Randomly.
Speaker 1: This game pass game from earlier this year Little Kidie
Big City. I got one hundred percent in because it
only it took like three hours to get one hundred
percent in that game, and I don't think it's a
thousand gamer score one, but that was a fun Like
once I beat the game, a couple of the last
things to do were kind of just fun little collectible things,
So that was a good time. And then I think
maybe my biggest flex or like I don't even know
if it's a flex because it's maybe just embarrassing, but
Spelunky and Splunkie two. On Splunky two, I have one
hundred percent of the achievements on Xbox. On I have
all the trophies. On PlayStation, I have all of the
achievements on Steam and on Nintendo, like the Switch port
of it. Since Nintendo doesn't have that built in, they
like put in a UI thing for the achievements in
the game so you can still get them, and so
I have one hundred percent on the Switch version too,
So I have one hundred percent on that game four times.
And then I think on Spelunky HD as well the
original Splunky, I think I also have all all of
them on Xbox, all on PlayStation. I think all all
four platforms. Once again, I think I have all of them,
so it's a it just goes to show them what's
I love. I've Splooky one and two that I've done
everything in those games multiple times, and I am happy
to do it because once again, it's a fun achievement
list where there's a couple in there, like big Scorers
one where you just have to get a huge score,
which never unlocks anything in the game. The only reason
to do it would be for the achievement. Another one
that's really hard is to get zero score pick up
zero gold throughout your run, which is super hard because
if you're just like there's sometimes gold hidden under like
snow or leaves, so you might just accidentally walk home
one you don't see, or if you put a bomb
anywhere and that like flings gold across the screen and
it hits you, then you pick it up. So that's
like a really fun challenge. And both the games they
have both those achievements in there, so really fun achievement
lists to go through, and uh yeah, that's definitely my
biggest flex and anytime if those games ever get ported
to I don't even know what else exists. I guess
that's every platform that exists, but I don't know. Anytime
that comes down a new platform and I can redownload
it and it doesn't cross do cross save, I'll definitely
go back in and get everything all over again. So
shot Outs too, Splunky, Starfield. I'm surprised I have eighty
one percent of the achievements in Starfield. I'm sure when
the DLC comes out that number is gonna drop, but
I'll also play that and maybe get some more not Xbox,
but I think I got one hundred percent in Spider
Man and Ghost of Sushima. Once again, Ghosts had DLCs
that might take me out of the one hundred percent mark.
And then I also want to show out all the
arcane games Dishonored and Pray and Death Loop all have
really good achievement lists that really just make you play
the game in creative ways, do things you wouldn't normally
think of, and all that sort of fun stuff. So
definitely showed to that team over there always making good
achievement lists.
Speaker 2: Let's take our last break of the show.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back to talk about some more achievements.
We're right back. Okay, we are back where am I
at here? Okay, so I wanted to bring this up.
But when I was going through my list, did you
when you did you look through your entire list? Did
you go like start to back and just briefly look
at all, like see all the games?
Speaker 2: I did a quick brief Yeah, look, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was there any games that you just forgot about or
forgot that you played.
Speaker 2: There was a couple in there, I think, a couple
of sports games that kind of caught me off guards.
I saw you had like a lot of NHL ones.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have just yeah n games score
in each of these kinds of things.
Speaker 2: That was a big one in high school with me
and my friends playing together. Yeah, there's a few surprises
in there that I definitely forgot about. A few really
like one off games that I thought, uh, like Fracture
Lost Planet. Lost Planet's a really good one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nice. I there was several on mine that I was like, man,
I do not remember playing this game at all. And
one I had like achievements in various Gears games, which
I feel like that was probably just Briggs bringing over
the games and playing them at my house on my console.
That's probably what was going on. There Dead Rising two.
Speaker 2: I don't remember ever.
Speaker 1: Playing that game Godfather too, Like, what the hell, I've
never played there in my life. I don't know how
I have an achievement in it. Very strange. And then
all this tailor, I had achievements for Assassin's Creed, Revelations
to and Brotherhood. I promise you, I've never played these games,
so I have no idea why I have these. Once again,
maybe a friend brought over a game, but like I
can't I can't picture a role where I had a
friend who had brought over multiple Assassin's Creed games and
I don't think I ever rented them. You know, this
is like before game passed, so it's like I wouldn't
have played them through there. I don't know where the
hell those achievements came from. So there was a few
of those that I was just shocked to see on
that list. I promise you, I have never played those games.
I don't know where they came from. Weird. And then
I went back and saw that the first it's probably
not the first achievement, but for There's last game on
my list was this game called Elo Milo, which was
like a three sixty arcade game, I think it might
have been a free one that like everyone kind of
played back in the day. And I'm i'm it's probably
not the first game I played on my Xbox, but
it's probably the because I'm guessing, like, let's say I
played Halo three first, and then I played Elo Melo
about achievement, and then I played Halo three after that
and got another achievement. It would like bump Payload three
up on my list. I'm guessing, you know, it'd put
it as like a little recent thing. And so I
think Elo'meo is like the oldest game on my list,
which was a very random one because I barely remember
that weird little like puzzle platform or.
Speaker 2: Kind of game. M hm.
Speaker 1: So moving on, or did you have any other any
other games or achievements that you any stories or things
like that.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's everything.
Speaker 1: So I think, Well, we were talking about online achievements,
and I'm kind of against those. I also think games
that require you to do multiple playthroughs, Like I can
understand like, okay, beat the game on the highest difficulty,
but I think ones that are just like unnecessarily requiring
you to play through the game multiple times, and like
maybe it's like for a collectible, and like the game
doesn't have like a chapter select, so you can't just
like go back to a chapter.
Speaker 2: That you missed and do like that.
Speaker 1: Those guns can be kind of annoying, but you know,
unless you're achievement hunting is probably not the end of
the world. I also, I also feel like achievement hunting
is like not really a concept anymore. I feel like
people don't do that these days or don't talk about it.
Maybe it's just like people our age aren't doing it,
but like younger, you know, people in high school have
more time are still doing it. But I do feel
like with game Pass being what it is, this is
like achievement hunter paradise these days, where it's like, man,
I have hundreds of games at my fingertips that I
don't need to buy or rent. I can just play
them right now. And I feel like that for people
who are into gamer score, I feel like this must
be like the prime era to just crush those achievement lists.
Speaker 2: There is a huge benefit of doing achievements right now,
is because when you do achievements through games Pass, you
get reward points, and those reward points can be actually
used to buy Xbox Live. You can buy gift cards
that you can use in the Xbox Store, or you
can enter their sweepstakes. There's a whole array of different
things you can do simply by playing games.
Speaker 1: I should really get signed up for that. I feel like,
I feel like I see the notifications sometimes and then
I click them and it's like, oh, you gotta go
here and sign up, and I'm like, ah, I don't
want to do.
Speaker 2: It's worth it. I have redeemed probably like thirty plus
dollars worth of gift cards through doing achievements, and so
for me, I totally buy the Halloween game. There you
go exactly. It's nice when you go to your store
and you just like, oh, I got a five dollars
gift card I can slap down on like that battle
pass for Call of Duty or that character path. It's
really really handy. So that's that's something that is definitely
incentive to doing these achievements. But there's definitely still a
I think a lack thereof people really engaging with it.
I remember I can't remember where this I remember this story,
but I can't remember where it was from. But someone
would pay for their Xbox Live through this system simply
by playing the games and doing the achievements and stuff,
and it would they would be like going crazy and
doing different games and everything. I can't remember where I
heard that's crazy.
Speaker 1: You must have to get like probably be really efficient
with the games you're playing, like really playing like the
easy one hundred percent achievement games that sort of thing
to make enough progress with that. That's pretty crazy. I
remember because my my cousin was a big achievement hunter,
and he back in the day had the like Blockbuster
renting membership thing, so he would you know, get like
a free not free, but he could rent like one
game every week kind of thing, and he would often
expend that on a on like an easy one hundred
percent achievement game. The one I have a very distinct
memory of is the Avatar game Avatar Last Airbender, which
was like that was actually kind of a cool game.
It was kind of like semi open world you go around,
but there was five achievements in the game, and it
was literally just get a ten hit combo, get a
twenty hit combo, thirty hit combo, forty hit combo, fifty
hit combo, and you could do it in within ten
minutes of booting up the game, you know, just go
up to the first enemy and you know, do like
this whatever this perfect combo, get that combo. One hundred
thousand gamers go right there, super easy. And I know
there's tons of those games out there that exist. There's
even games that just like that's the whole marketing behind
their game is like, hey, spend two dollars easy thousand
gamers or easy Platinum trophy, and people buy that. People
who care about that stuff are really into it. I
don't think i'd ever really do that, but yeah, that
Avatar one really stood out to me. But yeah, there's
definitely a lot of the games that once again have
really lazy achievement lists that you can just get really
really quickly. They don't even require you to be the game.
Most games have like role credits essentially gives you achievement,
but some don't. And yeah, makes it so you can
cash in there. Did you ever do that? Did you
ever rent a game or borrow a game from someone
just to get some easy gamers score? Ooh, I think
you have too much honor for that. I feel like
you wouldn't feel like you earned it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's no memory that I can pull from
where I think I've just I've borrowed a game to
do that. Usually, like if I'm if I'm getting a game,
it's a game that I like, a game I really
want to play, and it's it's got a consistent amount
of achievements that I got to like grind through. You
gotta beat the game, and you gotta do extra things
stuff like that. That's kind of my jam. The only
dishonorable thing I did was I bought Guitar Hero I
have my friend come over and beat the fire Plans
for me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely guilty of that too, looking at
my list and seeing all these Assassin's Creating Gears games
that I have no memory of playing, so I'm sure
I got some free free gamer score there as well.
The last thing I guess wanted to ask is like,
do you do you think the system is good as
it stands? Do you think it like stands up by
modern setting, Like do they need to change or revamp
or improve anything? Or do you think it's like a
perfectly fine system that doesn't really need tweaking. It's like,
if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Where are you at?
With achievements as a just general system.
Speaker 2: I think that they have played around with it, and
I think that they need to do something to really
motivate people to really get more invested in it. I
don't know how this works, if it still even does.
But a couple of years ago before they changed the
Xbox dashboard to what it is now, is back on
the Xbox One where your achievements had different backgrounds to them.
So for Star Wars Battlefront two, for example, I got
a lot of achievements in there, and there were some
achievements I really liked, and so I would select those
achievements and then would give me specific background like concept
art from the game as my wallpayer as my back
like desktops, desktop, my consoles background. So it's really cool
because there was one of like it was like an
in game shot of like Luke Skywalker force pushing and
Stormtroopers blasting away, and I changed it to where it's
like on Kashika and there's a bunch of Clone Troopers
running forward like it's It was really really cool, And
those were based on like different achievements that you would
unlocked and that you could select. I don't I haven't
dabbled in it for a while because I've just left
it at.
Speaker 1: Think I've never seen that, so either I'm just kind
of overlooking it or just not really done much these days.
But that's a cool feature.
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. I want to regoogle it
because yeah, that's it was really really neat. Some game
developers go through the effort of creating wallpapers that are
unlocked with achievements. Yeah, that's on Xbox. They put that
in like four years ago. Here, I'm gonna show you
this share screen here because this is pretty cool because
I remember when they announced this. So you can see
here he's cycling through his achievements and like he picks
one here with the artwork lone Wolf, and you can
choose set his background as you've unlocked the achievement, and
then as he back out. Well no, he's just showing you.
But yeah, it sets it as your background, so with
all your apps and everything, it'll just be overlaying the
background wallpaper. So it's super cool. It's a really really
neat thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking up like I can't really find
like just a bullet point list, but yeah, people talking
about hey have a lot of those. I see that
someone talking about Battlefront see if thieves apparently have some
cool ones Doom twenty sixteen, that could be interesting.
Speaker 2: I did play through that.
Speaker 1: I I think I played through that on PC, so
I guess I don't have those ones. Rise Son of
Rome apparently has some good Elton Ring even has some Okay,
so I guess it is still like a modern thing
people are still doing. I should really look into that.
I probably maybe I should look at see if Midnight
Suns has any because I'm sure i'd have some juicy
ones there. So thank you for showing that up. That's yeah.
Maybe that's part of it is like just the knowledge
of where of this thing, like even that that system
you're talking about there, of getting some money, like I
knew that was kind of in there, but I've never
really thought about it. So I don't know what how
they can teach us about these things better, but I
feel like they need that integrate into the UI maybe
a little bit better. That's that's cool. I think one
thing that has stood out to me is that some
games have like the tracker, and then you can enable
the trackers, like actually in game, it'll like show you
a tracker like your progress on certain things, and then
when you go on the UI, the Xbox UI, you
can actually go see and like look at like the
detailed like how many I don't know, bonus battles do
you need to Midnight Suns? I've done sixteen and I
need to do twenty, and that's really cool. But I
feel like so few games actually that actually works. Whether
that's just bugged or I'm guessing it's more that developers
have to kind of opt into that and like actually
program the game in a way that is like tracking
those and then convey it that to.
Speaker 2: The Xbox Dashboard UI.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's what it is. That I don't think
it'd be like some AI system that's smart enough to
detect like for some of them, I could see that,
and maybe that's what it is. Like maybe some achievements
are like really easy to track in that way, but
other ones are like really hard to determine that in
a live way. But I just like, and someone who
plays all of these games and always is kind of
keep an eye on this stuff. Midnight Sense is the
only game that I can think of that really had
like good tracking on that. And even then some of
those were bugged out and not really working properly as
I mentioned, So I don't know, I feel like the
tracker needs to get better, and once again, I don't
know if that's on the ononus of the developers or
if that's an Xbox thing. And also for a lot
of these developers where Xbox is like a smaller platform
than Nintendo or PlayStation, that's like less of a feature
that they would care to implement if it's just going
to cost some time and money for like very little game,
because a lot not a lot of people care about that,
but it's something I would like to see better improved
in games because it's really good in theory when it works.
Speaker 2: I feel like Borderlins has something like that. I want
to say Borderlines too specifically had an in game tracker
for getting your achievements because I remember, like not like
the Xboxy but like actually built in the game, actual
in game Yeah, And I really like that concept a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's essentially what like Splunky has now, Like
they didn't have it originally, but when the game came
up for switching, they kind of implemented the achievements into that.
I think they put it into all the versions, like
they like patch it in so you can like see
that stuff in game too, So it's cool to have
that art implemented into the world as well, rather than
just being like that miscellaneous achievement art that there. I
think for me like the one revamp. And I don't
know what you want to do, because I don't think
you want to just copy PlayStation. But I think one
thing that's because you like PlayStation has a different tiers
like bronze, silver, gold, platinum, Xbox has like you know,
this one's worth ten, this one's worth fifty, this one's
worth a hundred. But I do feel like there's something
that hits way harder about the platinum trophy when you've
gotten all the other achievements and in PlayStation games and
then you get the platinum at the end, where I
feel like Xbox would benefit from that. You never really
have that final moment, like the last achievement you get
could be like the most random little one that is
just for five that you hadn't got for some reason,
and then that's like, Okay, I guess I got it all.
But I feel like that's something that could hit a
bit harder, and I don't know, maybe there is something
implemented in the and UI, and I just haven't got
one hundredercent achievements in a game in a while. But yeah,
I feel like that would be nice if there was
some more like nice conclusive finality to it that made
it feel a bit better when you actually got like
the final achievement and got one hundred percent in the game.
So I don't know what they would call that, like,
I don't I don't know if they'd call it a
different type of achievement, like a golden achievement or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it would just be tied to a reward like
something like that, like a wallpaper to be that that
seems like a great reward for like a Platinum level
type tier. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe some games are already doing that.
Speaker 1: Once again, I'm just not knowing about it, but I
do think it would be nice if the final achievement
felt a little bit better, cooler, or more unique.
Speaker 2: I guess I agree. I agree with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's kind of it
that I had to talk about with this. I think
it's a it's a fun topic to bring up because
it's kind of those things that's just been chugging along
for a while, but we don't really think about it
anymore because it kind of comes like part of the background.
But I still like achievements and I hope they stick
around forever. I hope Nintendo as them on the next console.
As I mentioned, I think, you know, Steam already has them,
PlayStation already has them. I think it just makes sense
for Nintendo to do that. I don't think they will
because it's Nintendo.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be really cool for like a Mario
game to see what kind of weird challenge level achievement
kind of things they could put in there, just to
incentivize people to, you know, spending more time to master
these things. I think that would be pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Agreed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else, Taylor or is that all for today?
Speaker 2: That's everything?
Speaker 1: Right on? Thank you for joining me, Thank you over
for listening. Next week, or rather this week, throughout the weeks,
Games Calm is happening, so there's gonna be a lot
of announcements. I hope, some pretty big, juicy announcements, and
next week's side quest we will break it all down.
So that should be a good time, hopefully, hopefully get
some big cool things, find out finding out there, and yeah,
thank you everyone for listening, and we'll see you again
next time. Bye bye,