WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:29.760 When you look on the sky, do you feel the poll? 3 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:35.719 The question why? The stories told? 4 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:42.439 And left behind in shadows where the truth we find. 5 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:51.039 They built their tails on grafts and lives on theories. 6 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:54.039 They stake their designed. 7 00:00:55.159 --> 00:01:02.600 Put down here on this solid brown the answer screen. 8 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:08.599 They're all round, Rise and break through. 9 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:12.920 Welcome back truth. See here's from around the world. It's 10 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:15.920 time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast 11 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:20.120 as we record on this Monday evening, May nineteenth, twenty 12 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:23.920 twenty five. Hope everybody had a great weekend and is 13 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:27.239 doing well. Just a couple quick notes before we bring 14 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:30.000 on today's guest, Bobby from the great state of Texas. 15 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:33.319 First and foremost, please do stop buy the new website 16 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:37.319 truthernet dot com, join us in our social area. It's 17 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:40.480 building up pretty quick. Say hello, and by the time 18 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:42.920 you get this podcast, we should be back on our 19 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:47.560 regular schedule. So again, truthnet dot com. If you'd like 20 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:50.599 to join the podcast like Bobby is today, please send 21 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:55.319 us an email to fe filesguest at gmail dot com. 22 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:58.200 That is f as in foxtrot. E is an Echo 23 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:01.920 Files guest at gmail dot and right now we are 24 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.400 scheduling for the third or fourth week of June, so 25 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:07.719 I guess by the time this goes live, we'll probably 26 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.840 be scheduling for July. Everyone has a story, please share 27 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:15.759 it with everyone. We'd love to hear you again. Fie 28 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:19.000 Files guest at gmail dot com. So that's it for 29 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:21.840 the admin the housekeeping. If you will, we're gonna jump 30 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.240 right into it. In today's guest is Bobby joining us 31 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:27.000 from Texas and Sarah. Thanks again for taking the time 32 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:28.080 out tonight to join us. 33 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:31.439 Of course, man look forward to prop Thank you. 34 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.840 Yeah. Please do, as always, take a moment or two 35 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:36.400 and introduce yourself to our audience. 36 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:39.319 I'll make I'll try to make it as quick a 37 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:43.439 moment because I'm I'm your guests, and they kind of 38 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:48.520 ramble a little bit. Bobby, excuse me not to be 39 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:52.719 fifty five years old. I've got six boys, me and 40 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:55.680 my wife. It's me, my and hers and hours. I've 41 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:59.360 got a fix some be eleven year old son. A 42 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:02.159 couple of doctors in the family or one about to be, 43 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.199 one is, and one that works for me. I have 44 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:10.280 dort work. It's my third and last marriage. Sadly, it's 45 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:12.360 the third, But you know, it is what it is. 46 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:19.879 That's it. I'm gonna keep it short and sweet, and. 47 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.360 Let's talk a little bit about your journey to the 48 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:26.280 truth and how it all culminated to you bring you know, 49 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:30.039 coming on this podcast tonight, what was your first inkling 50 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:33.520 that what you're being you know, what you were being 51 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:37.280 taught or told how the world works was being differently 52 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:38.319 as you perceived it. 53 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.319 Okay, so I'm not really sure, because I do drink 54 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:49.360 beer on a regular basis, I don't remember the exact 55 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.719 timing of it. I did go to January sixth, me 56 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:54.879 and a few buddies friends of mine drove from. 57 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:55.960 Houston to d C. 58 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.680 And that was a very eye opening expense, to say 59 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.199 the least. What was kind of being portrayed as what 60 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:10.319 I actually witnessed, And I really, honestly, I can't remember. 61 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:12.960 I was right about the time I learned a few 62 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.120 things about flat Earth away was shortly there after one 63 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:15.520 of the two. 64 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:21.079 So that's about the length of time. And ever since then, 65 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:21.519 it's just. 66 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.439 Been a whole lot of me telling everybody, you know, 67 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:27.560 wanting I went through a phase of wanting to inform 68 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:31.319 and tell everybody about what I've discovered because I just 69 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:34.560 could not understand, you know, how we were lied to, 70 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:39.680 and the truth to me seems very apparent. How uh Now, 71 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:42.120 I'm just kind of you know, somebody says something about 72 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.759 the globe, I mean, you know, I'll correct them and say, yeah, 73 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:45.519 you mean the plane. 74 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:46.680 Uh. 75 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.199 I'm a little bit of a contrarian. So I don't 76 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:53.560 mind the debate here and there. But that's about the 77 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:56.839 time period that it that it all happened. The way 78 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.000 it happened was kind of odd, and I'm guessing it 79 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.399 had to have been shortly after I came back from 80 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.519 January sixth. I was already I know, you like to ask people, 81 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:09.279 were there other things that led you to this, you know, 82 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.240 other conspiracy theories or truth theories or however you want 83 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.920 to word it. And I would say the nine to 84 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.639 eleven was one. I'm kind of seen some things about that, 85 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:24.000 you know. Then the whole virus thing. I don't believe 86 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:28.240 in viruses at all. I'm more of a terrain theory, 87 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:32.920 not not term theory kind of guy. And I was 88 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.360 talking to a gull in parlor, so this might help 89 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:39.839 explain the timing. And so parlor got shut down shortly 90 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:45.319 before or after the whole election of twenty twenty. I 91 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:49.680 can't remember if it was right after or before. And 92 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.079 somebody said, man, if you think that's crazy, whatever that 93 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.480 topic was, I really can't remember. But if you think 94 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:57.800 that's crazy, then you want to see what these flat 95 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:00.319 earthers are saying. And I don't know if I can 96 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:05.040 say this word on I'll keep it clean. I said, 97 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:08.319 that is the dumbest effing thing I've ever heard of, 98 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:14.279 as the guy that was chatting with online. So he said, 99 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:16.680 I get it, but you might just want to see 100 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:19.399 what they're saying. Because I've looked into it. It's not 101 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:23.519 cried quite as crazy as it may sound at first hearing. 102 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:28.000 So I did, and I kind of like you, I've 103 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:32.920 heard your story a few times, went to this, Okay, 104 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:35.160 I saw this couple of things. I'm like, hey, this 105 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:39.600 is crazy. This is crazy. Okay, that's even crazier. And 106 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:43.120 now I'm full in, you know, three four or five days, 107 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:47.240 just twelve or fourteen hours a day looking at every video, 108 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:50.639 whether you're talking about Mark Sargeant or Nathan Oakley or 109 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.879 taboo conspiracy you know, name or crow seven seven seven, 110 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:59.040 just everybody, And I was like, Okay, I cannot believe 111 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:04.439 I'm a freak flat earther and started trying to share 112 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:08.240 it with people. And that really brings me to my 113 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:12.920 biggest question that I have for everybody that I meet, 114 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:17.639 whether they're a flat Earth or not, mostly for flat earthers. 115 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:21.759 But that's it. That's how it became a member of 116 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:22.920 the real existence. 117 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:26.600 That's well stated, and a couple of things I want 118 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.720 to touch on before we go forward, because it's interesting 119 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:33.079 you mentioned that in regards to a message I got today. 120 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:37.560 But one of my earliest awakenings was when I was 121 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:40.120 in the military and we saw things that were going 122 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:44.279 on and we'd come back from whatever particular mission and 123 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:48.040 CNN would be reporting something that we saw firsthand, but 124 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:50.160 it would be completely different than what we saw and 125 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:54.560 we're all looking at each other, that's not what went down. 126 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:56.959 And then I remembered back to the lives of the 127 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:02.759 Gulf War, and so it would be interesting for me 128 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.759 to hear firsthand what it was like being down there, 129 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:12.000 and you know, we saw you know, obviously it wasn't 130 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:16.439 an insurrection, there wasn't an attack on the capital. From 131 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:21.040 everything that I saw, people were just led by probably covert, 132 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:24.160 whether it was FBI or CIA, who knows, you know, 133 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:33.840 to get the desired reaction right from from taking away 134 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:38.039 the obvious. You know, I'm out of I'm a political 135 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.720 at this point. But there's a better chance of me 136 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:45.320 growing wings and flying to Japan then Joe Biden getting 137 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:49.080 eighty one million votes. So again, they're very clever and 138 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:52.039 they can figure out these ways to draw attention away 139 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:54.799 from those type of things. What are your thoughts on that, 140 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:56.840 and what was it like being there? Your your first 141 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:57.639 hand experience. 142 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:00.000 Okay, so it was crazy. 143 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.080 So I got down there the day before Trump was 144 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:03.799 going to give his speech. I got down there on 145 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.080 the fifth and we went to this restaurant and so 146 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:09.759 I had already come to the realization that COVID was fake. 147 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:12.960 And we go to this believe it or not, there 148 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:15.919 is a Mexican restaurant on just on the other side 149 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:21.399 of the river. We were staying and this guy was 150 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.679 sitting there. He was obviously a Trump supporter, which I 151 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:27.159 was at the time. I'm not saying I am or 152 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:30.200 I am not right now, I'm just going to ride that. 153 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:31.039 Fence for a minute. 154 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:33.600 But anyway, he was sitting there eating it he'd left 155 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:35.919 about half of his more than half of his food, 156 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:38.200 and I was like, we were waiting in line for 157 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:41.200 about an hour, and so I introduced myself and I said, 158 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.279 are you going to finish that? And he goes no, 159 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.480 And this is in the height of COVID. Obviously, I 160 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:49.879 sat down, I grabbed his pork ate the rest of 161 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:53.200 his Mexican food, and everybody around that worked. 162 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:55.120 There like, oh my gosh, what's this guy doing. 163 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:58.080 So anyway, me and my friends we ended up sitting 164 00:09:58.200 --> 00:09:59.799 talking with him, sat down with him. 165 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:02.399 He joined our problem, along with a couple other people. 166 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:04.840 So then the next day rolls around, We get out there. 167 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:07.039 I may or may not have had a couple of 168 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:10.000 margaritas and beers. That kind of eludes me. 169 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:14.919 So we get to the monument, you know, the site 170 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:17.879 where the speech was going to be held, and it 171 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:20.720 was cold. It was a different kind of cold. It 172 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:25.159 was the wind was just blowing really, really strongly, and 173 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:28.879 so I was underdressed, so I was freezing. They had 174 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.879 no portal cans, and I mean literally not one portal 175 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:36.919 can anywhere from the monument all the way down, you know, 176 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:38.879 through the mall to the Capitol building. 177 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:40.080 So we listened. 178 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.720 No, yeah, not, and so I might have had to 179 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:46.480 use the restroom. So we're making our way. We left 180 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:49.759 probably about ten minutes before Trump finished speaking, just to 181 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:51.919 kind of get a head start because it's a pretty 182 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:55.000 long walk. I think it's about seventy seven miles that's 183 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:59.120 what it felt like anyway. So we're about halfway, give 184 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:04.799 or take, and we start hearing what sounds like not fireworks, 185 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:07.159 but it sounds a little deeper than that, kind of 186 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:11.000 like the concussion grenade you here during Fourth of July. 187 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:14.360 And uh so we're getting closer, it's getting louder, and 188 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:16.440 then then our phones start going whacky. 189 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:19.039 Nobody can call anybody. They're going in and out. 190 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:22.639 You'll have service, and you'll go into airplane mode, SOS mode, whatever. 191 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:24.200 And we keep walking. 192 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:27.080 Then we start getting closer to the Capitol Building, and 193 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.440 there were just I mean the whole walk up there, 194 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:31.840 it's just a bunch of what I would call normal, 195 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:35.440 you know, guys and gals just kind of interested in 196 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:36.679 thinking that the. 197 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.519 Election was stolen and that's what we were there for. 198 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:41.360 And as we're getting closer, we can see, I mean, 199 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:47.679 they'd already been inside the building and had different things 200 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.720 draped over the sides of the Capitol Building. And I 201 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:53.919 was with a friend of mine that came that joined 202 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:57.240 me up there, and some guys that we met, and 203 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.799 so we're right up on the Capitol lawn and they said, uh, 204 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:02.679 we're going to go in, and I was like, I 205 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:04.399 would love to, but I have to go to the 206 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.320 bathroom so badly I am not going. 207 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.279 So I uh, I don't know if I should say this. 208 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:13.879 I may or may not have urinated on the on 209 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.679 the lawn of the Capitol Building and some bushes and 210 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:19.120 then didn't make it in. 211 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:20.720 I got about fifty feet from. 212 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:23.879 The steps and realized that I'm not sure this is 213 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:25.320 going to go the way I needed to go, because 214 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:28.399 my luck with things like that is not always the best. 215 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:32.000 So I just stay back. And now I'm sitting there 216 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:34.519 by myself, and I came across a couple of very 217 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:39.919 very odd instances of kids. I'm sorry, I say kids. 218 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:44.480 They're twenties, thirties. They look more like Antifa than like, 219 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.440 you know, quote unquote Maga. People gotcha that we're just 220 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:50.919 being very very boisterous, just trying to, you know, see 221 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:52.399 if they could get somebody's start a fight. 222 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.000 Agent provateurs, right, yeah. 223 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.679 And I had one lady that got to the front 224 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.440 door of the Capitol building. There's a bunch of people 225 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:04.000 pushing and pushing, and all of a sudden, there were 226 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.519 police on one side and the quote unquote protester, you know, 227 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.639 the protesters on the other side. And a gun slides 228 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:14.240 over from the police side over to the protesters and 229 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:16.480 they look at each other like yeah, nope, and they 230 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:22.080 kicked it right back overturn. And so yeah, a couple 231 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:25.159 of my friends went in. One died shortly thereafter. She 232 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:29.879 had an aneurysm. One of the ladies that was with 233 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:34.480 our little group had and now I have it. It 234 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:37.679 was the megaphone that the what was that guy called 235 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.279 that was wearing the the horns and all that, the 236 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.440 Viking Maga guy. 237 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:44.480 I've got the megaphone. 238 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.000 Yeah, I've got the megaphone that went in there that 239 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:51.080 he used still as the little keepsake. And anyway, we 240 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.960 you know, after all that happens, I'm standing out there freezing, 241 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.960 I'm like, hey, I'm going back to the hotel, so 242 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:00.360 triculate my way back to the hotel room. I called 243 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.679 my mom and I said, she goes, I can't believe 244 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.759 what they're doing to the Capitol Building And I said, 245 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:08.279 what do you mean. She said, there's people are destroying 246 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:11.440 the Capitol Building and I said, yeah, no, Mom, I'm sorry, 247 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.919 I can't talk right now, but that is absolutely not 248 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:14.720 what is going on. 249 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:17.360 So anyway, they I. 250 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.679 Saw a bunch of people that I talked to after 251 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:24.879 the fact, and they were tear people reason throwing the 252 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.559 flash grenades into the crowd to try to incite them, 253 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:31.159 and uh, some of them fell for it, some of 254 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:35.039 them didn't, you know. But anyway, that that was really 255 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:36.960 my experience. And when I got back and saw we 256 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.080 turned the news on and I was like, yeah, that's 257 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:43.440 they are showing pictures that I saw witness, but that's 258 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.279 not really the vibe. That is what was happening. A 259 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.679 lot of people out there just playing God Blessed America 260 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.440 and singing the Star Spangled banner, and and it really 261 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:54.440 wasn't anything like it was portrayed. 262 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:58.559 So yeah, first of all, I'm sorry to hear about 263 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:00.919 your friend. That that's I don't know if that's a 264 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:06.519 coincidence that that happened so shortly after that particular incident 265 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:09.879 our friend that we had on the other podcast, Jeremy Brown, 266 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:15.320 master sergeant retired. You know, he spent he just got 267 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.960 released from prison about six weeks ago, two months something 268 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:21.840 like that. I'm not good with with timelines, but you know, 269 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:24.879 there was a thousand people whose ABIs corpus just went 270 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:25.679 right out the window? 271 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:25.879 Was it? 272 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.320 The fourth and sixth amendments just went right out the window. 273 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:30.960 And that's something we've been talking about a lot. And 274 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.159 I just wrote an article the other day on substack 275 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:39.240 about you know, as Americans, we keep I want to 276 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:43.159 say this because you know, as someone who served for 277 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.279 so long, you know, you told you're defending the Constitution 278 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.200 and the Bill of Rights. But these type of documents 279 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.519 are supposed to be two party agreements, and if only 280 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:55.240 one party's abiding by it, then there's it's got to 281 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:57.320 be time for a change. And we always get the 282 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:58.320 short end of the stick. 283 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:03.039 Weird how that happens. 284 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:06.159 Yeah, just just a coincidence for sure. Well, I'm glad 285 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:07.679 that you came out of it. And if there was 286 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:09.919 ever a time that someone needed to use the bathroom, 287 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:13.360 I think that's probably the best thing that might have 288 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:17.679 ever happened to you. After you know, everyone else who 289 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:20.080 went in there ended up in the gulags. 290 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:21.159 Yeah. 291 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.759 I never at the moment when we're sitting there, I 292 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:26.919 didn't think anything like that because it really wasn't. There 293 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.679 were some again, I think there were more provocateurs that 294 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:32.000 went in there and got people to go in. But 295 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:34.519 you know, I talked to some some people had some 296 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:38.200 their phones were working, and they were literally walking down 297 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:41.679 and the police, some of the police were very polite, 298 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.440 almost like they're showing them a tour of the Capitol building. 299 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.320 And I saw, I saw that firsthand. It wasn't something 300 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:54.039 from a you know, mainstream media. It was literally different 301 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:58.200 vine that recorded it. And I was like, yeah, that's 302 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:04.720 not exactly an interaction as I describe it. So yeah, anyway, yeah, 303 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:08.920 I guess the uh the old bladder came in perfectly. 304 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:13.920 Saved the day. Going back to your original thing, how 305 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.599 you were excited, and I was the same way, right. 306 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:18.680 You find out anytime you find a new rabbit hole, 307 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:23.200 you connect a few dots. You want to share, you know, 308 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:26.839 the newfound knowledge with others. I'm gonna be very vague 309 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:29.119 with this email. I literally I literally got just a 310 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.039 few minutes before I sat down in my office and 311 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:40.160 this individual was telling me that like everyone in her 312 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:46.200 circle is not only rejecting you know, this this conversation 313 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.920 she's trying to have with them, and we're talking pastors, friends, teachers, 314 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:53.599 et cetera. But like, uh, you know, the the local 315 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:59.160 school that they deal with is actually changing their their 316 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:03.519 statement of faith slash guidelines to specifically say that they 317 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.279 believe the Earth is a globe. And my thought is, 318 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:10.680 you know, that really goes to show the effort, the 319 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:13.759 lengths and the effort that they go in to putting 320 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:15.480 in the sye op. What are your thoughts on that? 321 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:18.799 My thought is. 322 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:23.279 That means we're moving forward and that's a positive. 323 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:28.519 Last May, we went on a cruise. 324 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:33.640 I purposely bought fifteen flatter T shirts anything from you 325 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:37.319 know liars, you know with the NASA logo on it 326 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:41.039 to I've got fifteen of them. Literally, I wore it 327 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:43.680 every single day on this cruise for five days and 328 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.119 I only had one negative. I had a whole lot 329 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.880 of and believe it or not, I was mostly younger people. 330 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:53.200 When I say younger, in the twenty five to thirty 331 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.240 five range. It gave me a thumbs up or I 332 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:59.039 love your T shirt or something like that, and I 333 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:01.759 found it pretty interesting. I think things are moving, you know, 334 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:06.119 at a smell space. But I've read the other day 335 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:09.799 that somewhere between thirteen and seventeen percent of the world 336 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:13.400 doesn't believe the Earth is a globe. And I don't 337 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:16.079 know if that is a good sign or it needs 338 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:17.599 to be more than that. But you know, I've been 339 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:22.079 a flat earther for four ish years and I get 340 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:25.640 nothing but pushback. So I know that questions coming from you. 341 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:29.920 Sorry to pre answer that. Listen to every single one 342 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.160 of your Flat Earth file podcasts. 343 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:31.880 So. 344 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:36.680 I think it's a good thing, you know. I'd love 345 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:39.000 for them to talk about that. Because my son knows 346 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:41.680 that I'm a flat earther. He doesn't he's eleven. He 347 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:47.720 doesn't care. My wife, which is kind of odd. She 348 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:51.240 she fits into that. She hears me, and she'll listen 349 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:55.480 to me talk. She'll listen to me debate people in public, 350 00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:58.920 and she just stays neutral. And then you know, we'll 351 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.960 talk and she goes Bobby. Everything he's saying makes perfect sense. 352 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:03.880 But I just really don't give a shit if the 353 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:06.200 Earth is flat or a globe. 354 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:08.000 I don't care, you know, And that. 355 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:13.200 Is perplexing to me because she's a big conspiracy theorist. 356 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:16.480 Other than that, you know, she's grew up Catholic. She 357 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:19.920 understands where the Catholic Church is and. 358 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:20.440 What she was told. 359 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:23.519 She loved and still, I hate to say it, loves 360 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:26.799 Disney World, even though she knows it's probably not the 361 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:30.400 most upstanding place in the world. She knows all the 362 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:36.599 poisonings that go into food coloring and processed foods and coke, 363 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:37.640 and you know, she. 364 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:38.440 Gets all of it. 365 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:41.400 And you know, obviously the number one, the biggest thing 366 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:44.839 is all the child trafficking. And you know that should 367 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:48.839 make everybody sad and pissed off. 368 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.160 Yeah, yeah, I agree, And I think even as Christians 369 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:56.400 like we should see. I think there's a big difference 370 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:59.640 between forgiveness and accountability. You can have both together, and 371 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:02.119 I think that's what a lot of people fail. And 372 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:04.279 when it comes to children, to me, that is a 373 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:06.880 just a drop dead and the Bible is very upfront 374 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.400 about it as well. Millstone into the ocean, you go, 375 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:14.279 do not harm God's children. And it is truly sad 376 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.079 and some of the rabbit holes that I've been down, 377 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:21.000 and maybe shame on me because I saw enough evil 378 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.279 stuff in my life, but there's a few rabbit holes 379 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:28.400 that I have pulled out of because you know, I 380 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:32.039 got five children and eight grandchildren, and I love kids, 381 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:35.359 and when I see those type of things, I get 382 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:39.920 really upset, really upset. So I think instinctively I turn 383 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.799 away and back out. Although in the long run, you 384 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:45.559 know it's not fixing anything, right when you turn your 385 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.000 back on a problem, the problem is not going to 386 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:51.519 go away. But it is a very difficult one, and 387 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.359 you know, it's disappointing people put their faith in all 388 00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:57.440 of these people at the federal level. You know, this 389 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:00.480 whole Cash Betel and the Bongino guys going to save 390 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:02.720 the world. And what's the first thing they're do in 391 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.160 front of a camera yesterday? Oh yeah, Epstein killed himself. 392 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:09.839 Let's move on. That's like, are you kidding me? 393 00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:10.200 Dude? 394 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:15.480 Well, you know they're they're I call it a game. 395 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.400 It's not much of a game, right, but their game 396 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:21.079 is going to go on as long as you know 397 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:24.839 there actually exists mainstream media, and you know that this 398 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:31.039 is the Earth is the devil's playground. God has is 399 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:34.519 in control, but he's letting the devil do what he 400 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.160 The devil do what he do yep. 401 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:40.960