Speaker 1: Ready, get ready for.
Speaker 2: Hey, Hey Friar's Day. And it is the twenty eighth
Speaker 2: day of March twenty twenty five, allegedly, according to that
Speaker 2: thing we call a calendar. This Theocelli effect. You listening
Speaker 2: to us hopefully live on a Friday, it's about six
Speaker 2: minutes after eight pm Eastern if you are hearing us live,
Speaker 2: And this is the fun part of the Friday show.
Speaker 2: For now, we may switch days that might come up
Speaker 2: in the next month or so. We're gonna have to
Speaker 2: switch facilities we use to run the show because Skype
Speaker 2: is going away in May, and I've been using that
Speaker 2: as the main connectivity so I could connect to the
Speaker 2: phone calls in the system and all that. We're trying
Speaker 2: to find a new way. I'm gonna have to come
Speaker 2: up with a new way to get together with my
Speaker 2: co hosts. Obviously we had an experiment a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago, but in the meantime, we're doing it the
Speaker 2: old way tonight, and we'll have the Age of Transitions
Speaker 2: at ten pm, we'll have Uncle the Podcast at eleven,
Speaker 2: and by the bye we're also going to get to
Speaker 2: finally solving the Super Bowl bets. Months later on the
Speaker 2: Uncle Show between eleven and midnight Eastern, So that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, we're taking your calls, me and
Speaker 2: my co host b Pete and be Pete and I
Speaker 2: might have to move to I don't know, Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday,
Speaker 2: I don't know what day yet, maybe Monday. Gotta work
Speaker 2: on it, gotta figure it out. And plus the change
Speaker 2: in the way we're going to do things will be
Speaker 2: another thing. But anyway, for now, we still have the
Speaker 2: same phone number three one nine, five, two seven, five
Speaker 2: zero one six three one nine five two seven five
Speaker 2: zero one six And gotta say I want to hear
Speaker 2: from you guys tonight. I've spoken enough about current events
Speaker 2: and the news lately, been putting out those podcasts. I'm
Speaker 2: not getting the same reaction to him this week that
Speaker 2: I got previous weeks. But that's okay about four news
Speaker 2: podcasts this week altogether, But that's okay. Looking to hear
Speaker 2: from you what you're thinking about the world around us
Speaker 2: as it goes, and by the way, anything else you
Speaker 2: got on your mind. I saw a preview for a
Speaker 2: new Star Trek movie. Now, maybe you don't care about that,
Speaker 2: but maybe you're into. I don't know the latest comic
Speaker 2: book thing, whatever it is. Are they still doing comic
Speaker 2: book movies? I don't know Star Wars, what's going on.
Speaker 2: I don't even know anymore man. And also I might
Speaker 2: have to go to church tomorrow morning, but who knows
Speaker 2: what else we'll discuss during this show. And glad to
Speaker 2: have be Pete with us, because two weeks now I
Speaker 2: didn't have him. One week I did the Third Rail
Speaker 2: with Dave there with Nature Boy and that was at
Speaker 2: the same time on Friday, and another week he just
Speaker 2: couldn't make it back home from work, which might be
Speaker 2: why we have to actually shift the days that we're
Speaker 2: going to do the call in show. And who knows,
Speaker 2: maybe it'll do better on a Wednesday or Thursday or
Speaker 2: a Tuesday, or I don't know, we'll.
Speaker 3: Try on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Saturday, hmmm, I don't know. But Saturday, see Friday and
Speaker 2: Saturday suffer from the same kind of problem where people
Speaker 2: tell me it's the weekend. I want to go out,
Speaker 2: you know, or I want to do something, or they
Speaker 2: got you know, like I would do it on a Sunday.
Speaker 2: I think Sunday is a great day. But football season
Speaker 2: for some of you guys, forget it. You're not going
Speaker 2: to be calling us right, So I know that.
Speaker 3: To watch Davis and talking.
Speaker 2: Right, if I told you we're gonna do this every Sunday,
Speaker 2: you'd be like, ah, crap, you know, because you're gonna
Speaker 2: have the game on. I know. Anyway, b Pete, it
Speaker 2: is good to hear from you, man. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: still the the Dallas plans coming together. Oh by the way,
Speaker 2: what was it night before last? I think it was
Speaker 2: night yeah, night before last. I did a ground zero
Speaker 2: radio talking about the JFK documents. Hey, if you want
Speaker 2: to call in and talk about that, we can do
Speaker 2: that too. Still a work in progress. Don't ask me
Speaker 2: to have big, definitive answers just yet. Some people seem
Speaker 2: to think they do. But documents are still actually coming out, guys.
Speaker 2: And we may have finally gotten the FBI documents today.
Speaker 2: I don't know, and it does I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: it's all of them yet. I haven't read them, so
Speaker 2: I won't declare it, and I'm not going with other
Speaker 2: people's pronouncements. So anyway, I.
Speaker 4: Told you a couple of weeks ago that you know,
Speaker 4: everybody who has already figured out and he did it.
Speaker 3: It was the CIA and the Jews.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, except if you listen to Judith Fary Baker,
Speaker 2: which you know, apparently last night somebody was cause, man,
Speaker 2: you should have heard the three phone calls I took
Speaker 2: on Ground zero the other night. Really, yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what it was. It was okay, First off, this one
Speaker 2: lady started out really intelligent, making a lot of sense
Speaker 2: until she started saying that Oswald was a hero and
Speaker 2: he was there to save the president. And I went on,
Speaker 2: knew where that was going then, you know, I tried
Speaker 2: to be polite and I said, you know, you got
Speaker 2: all these great things right at the front of your
Speaker 2: presentation there. But she was freaking out because I was
Speaker 2: talking about Angleton, because there is some new stuff on Angleton,
Speaker 2: uh in the files, right, so James Jesus Angleton. That
Speaker 2: makes some people rattle when they hear that. So she
Speaker 2: called in because of that. The next one, I don't
Speaker 2: remember which order it's in now, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: but the next one was, either did you hear e
Speaker 2: Howard Hunts deathbed confession right right before he died? He
Speaker 2: told the whole truth? And I went, okay, uh no,
Speaker 2: you know, like, first of all, that wasn't a deathbed confession.
Speaker 2: You got to know the circumstances under which that was recorded.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of suspect things there. Interesting maybe,
Speaker 2: but remember E Howard hunts disinformation agent. And again it's
Speaker 2: not like I've got a lot of time to address
Speaker 2: these questions rapid fire. The caller has plenty of time
Speaker 2: to set them up, but me, I'm stuck with, you know,
Speaker 2: ten seconds to answer. So the third one was I
Speaker 2: saw a guy online who confessed, and I said, Okay,
Speaker 2: which which confession? You know? Because I Files and it
Speaker 2: was Files, of course it was and Files and just
Speaker 2: before he died. This is the guy just before he died.
Speaker 2: He was in prison, and he told us before he
Speaker 2: died that he did it, and it sounded pretty pretty
Speaker 2: right to me, And I went, well, first of all,
Speaker 2: he's not dead.
Speaker 3: Second, I was going to say, yeah, he's still.
Speaker 2: You know. Second of all, he's out of prison. Okay,
Speaker 2: so let me update you. Third of all, we know,
Speaker 2: based on things that we've learned since James Files made
Speaker 2: his initial declarations in like nineteen eighty eight or eighty
Speaker 2: nine to certain people that a lot of his story
Speaker 2: doesn't fit with known facts again, you know, so James
Speaker 2: Files no good. But each of them had a twist
Speaker 2: on one of those stories. And the lady doesn't even know.
Speaker 2: It seemed like that she got the information from Judy
Speaker 2: Baker's narrative, so it was kind of funny. So it
Speaker 2: was jud It was basically the Oswald as a hero
Speaker 2: and we should recognize him as a marine and a hero.
Speaker 2: I Howard Hunt spilled the beans already, and James Files
Speaker 2: and then meanwhile Clyde Lewis adds in and I think
Speaker 2: they switched bodies with JD. Tippett. Jfk and JD Tipett
Speaker 2: looked alike, and they switched bodies. And that was Clyde Lewis,
Speaker 2: the host of the show. Yeah he you know, he
Speaker 2: asked me about that last time he had me on,
Speaker 2: and I said, Clyde, come on, this is not right.
Speaker 2: And in fact, you know, I know people make that
Speaker 2: assertion online, but it looked for yourself, Clyde, It's not
Speaker 2: the same guy. It's not look even if he somewhat
Speaker 2: resembled him. We have an autopsy on JD. Tippet, We
Speaker 2: have an autopsy on John F. Kennedy and even though
Speaker 2: the one done on Kennedy is botched to hell. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not buying the switched body. And Tippitt's body was
Speaker 2: not switched. Come on, have you seen the photos of it?
Speaker 2: And these guys claim to have seen things and go, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, because there's this guy my god, well I
Speaker 2: can't even remember his name now, but it's some Native
Speaker 2: American name guy out there who's pushing the uh swap
Speaker 2: body with Tippet's thing. But anyway, you know JFK's death
Speaker 2: was fake because they substituted JD. Tippitt's body for him.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I'm glad you had an eventful week.
Speaker 4: I had two, two very surprising occurrences this week. One
Speaker 4: was on Monday and one was yesterday, so it kind
Speaker 4: of bookended my week.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: The first one, you've heard the clips of Jasmine Crockett
Speaker 4: the uh she's in the House of Representatives from Texas.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: She was you know, cracking on Ted Cruz saying that
Speaker 4: you know he oh wait a minute.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, You're you're gonna tell me about the
Speaker 2: lady that called Abbot hot wheels, that that lady. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: well before you go there, one thing real fast before
Speaker 2: you go there, I forgot to mention is Morley held
Speaker 2: one of these You know, he holds a weekly thing.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to one of those zoom calls
Speaker 2: that he does for JFK fax. No? Okay, so we
Speaker 2: I went to the one this week because last not
Speaker 2: the one yesterday, but the one the week before. And
Speaker 2: you know the the chairman of the UH of the
Speaker 2: task force on the JFK stuff, Representative Luna from Florida. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: she was on the call, by the way. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: uh Morley is going to testify on April first, no kidding,
Speaker 2: April Fool's Day. He's going to testify in front of
Speaker 2: her committee in Congress. So I just I forgot to
Speaker 2: throw that piece in there as an update because I
Speaker 2: wasn't sure if you were aware of that. But since
Speaker 2: you bring up representatives, I just figured I mentioned this
Speaker 2: weird kind of almost run in with Luna there where
Speaker 2: we were being allowed to ask a few questions. Okay,
Speaker 2: now see now I was wondering what you meant by that,
Speaker 2: because I was just thinking, before you even brought up Crockett,
Speaker 2: here is his eventful week gonna involve, you know, something
Speaker 2: like that, did he meet somebody?
Speaker 4: I was hoping you did, but unfortunately it has to
Speaker 4: do with Twitter or the platform formally known as Twitter and.
Speaker 2: Now called x oh which I read, which I read
Speaker 2: was sold? Did you did you read it was sold?
Speaker 2: It was acquired by uh by that XI company, the
Speaker 2: open Open Open Ai development Lab apparently acquired Twitter now supposedly.
Speaker 4: Oh really, well, I was just reading there's been a
Speaker 4: lot of hate for Elon and on there anyway, Number
Speaker 4: Andy Nigo, the reporter who was attacked and beaten by
Speaker 4: the Anapha crowd up in was in Seattle or somewhere anyway.
Speaker 3: He took him to court and won his court case,
Speaker 3: and off okay.
Speaker 4: He posted a clip, a video clip of Jasmine Crockett
Speaker 4: talking about having to you know, having to beat ted
Speaker 4: Cruz over the head. And he posted the video and
Speaker 4: I commented on it, and I commented after reading all
Speaker 4: of the comments, I put mine up there and it
Speaker 4: said can we punch?
Speaker 3: Because that was it?
Speaker 4: You had to punch him hard, you know, that was
Speaker 4: the statement she made. So I typed in there, can
Speaker 4: we punch her now? And I no, sooner hit post
Speaker 4: and as soon as it cleared, my account.
Speaker 2: Was locked, he red flagged, she locked, and.
Speaker 3: So you know, you have the option to remove your
Speaker 3: post and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Well, I appealed it and I put in there. I
Speaker 4: simply asked a question. I wasn't promoting violence. I just
Speaker 4: asked a simple question, can we punch her now? And
Speaker 4: they said it was going to be locked for a week. Well,
Speaker 4: the very next afternoon they unlocked it, which surprised me.
Speaker 3: The second occurrence was yesterday.
Speaker 4: Now, on job sites over the past oh hell, twenty years.
Speaker 2: You're talking about LinkedIn. Are you talking about LinkedIn or
Speaker 2: do you mean a physical job site, job.
Speaker 3: Site, an actual job site.
Speaker 4: On the job sites over the past twenty years, I
Speaker 4: have seen a thousand times an electric line get hit,
Speaker 4: either by a dunk truck with a raised bed or
Speaker 4: a crane moving or you know. And I've seen it
Speaker 4: on roadways in that Never have I ever been under
Speaker 4: one of those lines when it came down until yesterday,
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I'm drunk. There must be i don't know,
Speaker 4: nine or ten cars up ahead of me, and we're
Speaker 4: paralleling a huge creek.
Speaker 3: Image when the hurricane hit up there, and so we're
Speaker 3: driving along something up in that line of traffic.
Speaker 4: There was a tractor trailer, box truck, couple other cars,
Speaker 4: and a dump truck right in front of me. All
Speaker 4: of a sudden, the dump truck dives into the left
Speaker 4: lane and slams on his brakes.
Speaker 3: He's about one hundred feet in front of him, and when.
Speaker 4: He got out of my field of vision, nine hundred
Speaker 4: feet of power line is falling, and I thought it
Speaker 4: was going to fall right on the truck. About seven
Speaker 4: hundred foot of it fell behind the guardrail, but because
Speaker 4: the poles were on opposite sides of this long.
Speaker 3: Run, it's probably a twelve hundred foot run a road.
Speaker 4: Before you hit the curve up there, the power line
Speaker 4: comes down behind the guardrail right as it comes across
Speaker 4: the guardrail into my lane. I hit it at about
Speaker 4: forty miles an hour, so I hit the thing. I
Speaker 4: get the truck stop, and somebody up ahead when the
Speaker 4: line came down went under it.
Speaker 3: I think it was a pickup truck.
Speaker 4: And caught it and pulled it along the guardrail and
Speaker 4: it started arcing off. All of a sudden, the transformer blows.
Speaker 4: Now I get the truck stop, I try to pull forward.
Speaker 4: I can only go about five feet I go to
Speaker 4: back up, I can only back up about five feet.
Speaker 4: I'm hung on this wire. Can go forward, can't go back.
Speaker 4: And I looked down on the screen on the dash
Speaker 4: and it says service Brake system MAC speed sixty four
Speaker 4: miles per hour. And I'm thinking, all right, something's it
Speaker 4: hasn't arked off on the truck because my electronics are
Speaker 4: still good and everything's working.
Speaker 3: Okay, truck still running, no problem.
Speaker 4: I can't move. This guy pulls up beside me. He says,
Speaker 4: are you okay? I said, yeah, I'm fine. I said,
Speaker 4: but I'm hung on this wire. Do you And we're
Speaker 4: up in the mountains now, no phone signal whatsoever for me.
Speaker 3: I asked him. I said, do you have any phone service?
Speaker 3: He says, I think I got one bar I said,
Speaker 3: can you call nine one one?
Speaker 4: So he calls nine one one and the fire department
Speaker 4: shows up. Volunteer fire department.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: One of them is about nine hundred foot in front
Speaker 4: of me. He's stopping traffic. The other one's about three
Speaker 4: hundred feet behind me where the other end of the
Speaker 4: wire cracked the power pole and the transformer is just
Speaker 4: hanging barely.
Speaker 3: I mean it's getting ready to come down.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So there at that end, I finally you know, I
Speaker 4: can't go anywhere, so I'm not getting out of the
Speaker 4: truck because I don't know if the line is still live.
Speaker 2: Well, I was just going to ask you, did you
Speaker 2: consider don't get out of the truck because you don't
Speaker 2: know if I mean, I don't know if that truck
Speaker 2: is gonna is it grounding the wire at this point?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, or you're because I've seen
Speaker 2: tires melt it.
Speaker 4: Well, it was live, I think until the transformer blew.
Speaker 4: But I didn't know it was being backfed from the
Speaker 4: transformer behind me.
Speaker 3: So I just stayed in.
Speaker 2: The truck, right, Okay.
Speaker 3: So then the.
Speaker 4: Power guy shows up. I see him down the road
Speaker 4: nine hundred feet. He cuts the line down there and
Speaker 4: then comes up and pulls up next to me, and
Speaker 4: I rolled down the window.
Speaker 3: I go, I'd like to report an outage. It starts
Speaker 3: and laugh again.
Speaker 4: He said, let me go do something and I'll be
Speaker 4: right back and untangle your truck. So he goes and
Speaker 4: cuts the other end of it and comes back up
Speaker 4: to the truck.
Speaker 3: He says, all right, line's dead.
Speaker 4: You can get out of the truck and take pictures
Speaker 4: if you need to.
Speaker 3: I get out.
Speaker 4: This power line caught the front passenger corner of the trim,
Speaker 4: right above the bumper and went into towards the radiator
Speaker 4: behind the bumper.
Speaker 3: Apparently when I hit it, I drove over it.
Speaker 4: So it's now under the wheelwell on the driver's side
Speaker 4: and is running all the way to the back. Apparently
Speaker 4: when I tried to back up, you know, the steel
Speaker 4: cable that they wrap around the power line to support
Speaker 4: it is wrapped around my axle and it's cut my
Speaker 4: brake lines.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's spindled around your axle, and like, yes.
Speaker 3: That's why I got that message about service your brake service,
Speaker 3: but it kills me.
Speaker 4: It says max speed sixty four miles an hour, and
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, until all the fluid runs out.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, for the time being, I mean what, it
Speaker 2: only cut the one So basically it just cut the
Speaker 2: one brake. You probably have you know, three working brake pads, right,
Speaker 2: so the one brake pad system locandarily.
Speaker 4: So finally he gets everything. I'm out taking pictures, Like
Speaker 4: he gets everything cut off in the highway patrolling Zoe's
Speaker 4: up okay, and.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hell, he had to give me a ride twenty miles
Speaker 4: back to the hotel, so I was stuck without a truck. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: we had a guy that got admitted to the hospital
Speaker 4: a couple of days ago. He's an elderly gentleman that
Speaker 4: was having heart tames and he's had two heart attacks
Speaker 4: and a stroke. He wasn't feeling well, so they admitted
Speaker 4: him in the hospital. So luckily I have his.
Speaker 3: Truck to use.
Speaker 4: Yeah, be able to get home. But while I'm sitting there,
Speaker 4: I'm at the hotel. I've got no ride. I'm starving.
Speaker 4: I had to anything since breakfast, so I ordered a pizza.
Speaker 4: My phone starts blowing.
Speaker 2: Up from where? Wait, where did you order a pizza from?
Speaker 2: Like a Domino's or was there a local place.
Speaker 3: That was the only place that could deliver up there?
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm waiting for that, and then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, my phone starts blowing up.
Speaker 3: I called my boss, told him what happened.
Speaker 4: He says, Okay, just go online, fill out the incident report,
Speaker 4: you know, upload any pictures you got, and I'll let
Speaker 4: our safety guy know. Well, a safety guy calls me.
Speaker 4: He wants to make sure I'm okay, yeah, no problems.
Speaker 4: I had to tell him what happened. Okay, we'll fill
Speaker 4: this out online. Leut loads your pictures. Blah blah blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, he said, but just do it narrative to
Speaker 4: me in an email on what happened. So I get
Speaker 4: off the phone with him. I'm still waiting for the pizza.
Speaker 4: About the time to pizza arrives, I get this health
Speaker 4: company calls me up. We have some company that handles
Speaker 4: accident reports from the health end of it. You know,
Speaker 4: do we any injuries. Oh, you may have. This guy
Speaker 4: starts in. Now, you may suffer some pain or some tension.
Speaker 4: Later on, I said, well, I'm really just starting to
Speaker 4: suffer some tension now. Well, you know you can always,
Speaker 4: I said, because I'm trying to eat my pizza's here,
Speaker 4: I said, let me finish my damn pizza and I'll
Speaker 4: call you back.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, I'll let you go. Well, I'm still trying.
Speaker 4: It took me two and a half hours to eat
Speaker 4: a pizza because of all the damn phone calls was coming.
Speaker 2: They were right on it. Well, I was really getting kids.
Speaker 2: See that's the problem with you know, modern communications because
Speaker 2: in the old days, right, the insurance company would call
Speaker 2: you the next day, you know, you had it Like
Speaker 2: if you got into an accident anywhere past the morning,
Speaker 2: the insurance companies, the adjusters, all those people would start
Speaker 2: bring in your phone the next day, Right, you could
Speaker 2: go home and eat at least.
Speaker 3: Now it's like within seconds.
Speaker 2: But now it's instant because their phones. First of all,
Speaker 2: they're working off a cell phone, and they get ping
Speaker 2: a notice, get on this right away, case number, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, blah blah, and it's in their system. You know,
Speaker 2: it's all this stuff. And this is, by the way,
Speaker 2: a big argument about why we need AI to just
Speaker 2: take this stuff over and handle these things and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But AI ain't gonna care about you finishing your pizza either.
Speaker 2: I got bad news.
Speaker 3: And then the health god calls me back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he says, well, you know, post accident, because policies
Speaker 4: then are we're going to have to arrange for drug testing.
Speaker 4: I said, fine, no problem, he says, well, he says,
Speaker 4: technically we need to do a breath analysis too.
Speaker 3: I said, look, dude, if.
Speaker 4: The highway controlman thought I had been drinking, he'd already
Speaker 4: have me downtown blowing a breath lizer, right, and if
Speaker 4: failed a breathalyzer, I wouldn't be talking to you on
Speaker 4: the phone right now.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I didn't take that and consideration. I said, So,
Speaker 3: what is it do you want to do?
Speaker 4: Well, we need to get you to a lab, I said, dude,
Speaker 4: I'm in the middle of the mountains.
Speaker 3: There's not a lab twenty five miles.
Speaker 4: Around this place, so what do you Well, I'm going
Speaker 4: to have to get on the phone, but everything is
Speaker 4: closed right now. I said, Well, i'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: I'm going to leave here in the morning after I
Speaker 4: check out a hotel and I'm gonna drive home. Here's
Speaker 4: the list of towns I'm going to be driving through
Speaker 4: find a lab. So I'm finally I got off the
Speaker 4: phone done with everything at a quarter to midnight.
Speaker 2: Well, you're real helpful to these guys, do I mean?
Speaker 2: You're actually trying to help them along. And I'm still
Speaker 2: haven't finished my damn pizza.
Speaker 4: As matters hell, they're my boss. He finally called me
Speaker 4: back about midnight. He said, uh, he said, I see,
Speaker 4: you got the action or report done. He says, you
Speaker 4: got your narrative in the email, and he says, I
Speaker 4: don't think we need anything else from me. He says,
Speaker 4: but I do have your truck for in the morning,
Speaker 4: and it's at the dot yard.
Speaker 6: No pro.
Speaker 4: So I go in this morning, had to unload everything
Speaker 4: out of my truck, put it in this other truck,
Speaker 4: then drive back and find a lab in Wilkesboro, North Carolina.
Speaker 4: Stopped pein a cup and then was able to finally
Speaker 4: get home. And I just walked in the door about
Speaker 4: quarter minutes of about fifteen minutes to showtime.
Speaker 3: It's been a long day.
Speaker 2: It has been a long day. This is all from
Speaker 2: yesterday that is dead today. Wow. So you took down
Speaker 2: a power line, you know, gave him your urine sample
Speaker 2: and everything, and that was.
Speaker 3: Clustered it up. I went on Google Earth and got
Speaker 3: the distance.
Speaker 4: It was about eleven hundred feet of power line came
Speaker 4: down on top of it. That's an experience when you
Speaker 4: see that line falling, and I mean, where do you go?
Speaker 4: It happened in a matter of seconds, and my truck
Speaker 4: was wrapped.
Speaker 3: Up in it right this It's amazing. And we still
Speaker 3: don't know who clipped the line.
Speaker 2: That is amazing. I gotta tell you that that's that's
Speaker 2: quite the harrowing story. I don't have anything good like
Speaker 2: that to report.
Speaker 4: You know, well, I was worried that it was gonna win.
Speaker 4: Everything started arc and off. It's real dry up there.
Speaker 4: There's a burning band in the state. There's three wildfires
Speaker 4: going on in Polk County right now. Two of them
Speaker 4: were started by down power lines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, falling power lines.
Speaker 3: Surprised something that can't catch on fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Fallen power lines are often pointed to as the
Speaker 2: as the ignition point for these mass fires, right so,
Speaker 2: and especially out in an area like that where you know,
Speaker 2: there's just a lot of brush, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: natural landscape. I mean that stuff's going to burn up
Speaker 2: if it's dry, right So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with these hillsides the way they are, with the
Speaker 4: wind blowing, I mean, you can get out of control
Speaker 4: in a matter of minutes.
Speaker 2: Well, good thing you didn't start a massive fire and
Speaker 2: we're not reporting on like half of the state of
Speaker 2: North Carolina being burnt down.
Speaker 3: Would I think I had both paperwork to fill out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely would, And they had probably more drug
Speaker 2: tests just saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my truck's in the shop. I think the damage
Speaker 4: is minor. But it was funny when it hit.
Speaker 3: The front of the truck.
Speaker 4: You have all that plastic up there where the grill is,
Speaker 4: and there's a gap that's maybe half an inch between
Speaker 4: the bumper and the trim and the grill, and that
Speaker 4: wire got sucked right in that hole and it snatched me.
Speaker 3: You know the cables they use on aircraft carriers to
Speaker 3: stop airplanes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's about the effect of hitting that cable. I
Speaker 4: was doing maybe I don't know when I hit it.
Speaker 4: I'd probably slowed down to about twenty miles an hour, okay,
Speaker 4: but it just snatched my truck stop and it had
Speaker 4: forced it under there, so there was no way I
Speaker 4: could back off the line.
Speaker 3: I was stuck the wire.
Speaker 2: The way you're describing it. But it's spindled around the
Speaker 2: damn axle. I mean, what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 4: Nothing exactly, And it's that steel cable. The power line
Speaker 4: is not what caused all the damage. It was that
Speaker 4: steal cable they wrap around it to suspend it.
Speaker 2: Right. That stuff you see almost like it looks like
Speaker 2: it's woven around it like uh like like like like
Speaker 2: the old ropes used to be where you had a
Speaker 2: bunch of little uh you know, a bunch of little
Speaker 2: ropes woven into the one big rope, like that kind
Speaker 2: of thing, except it's steel. Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an eventful day. I want to get
Speaker 3: my truck back there.
Speaker 4: They gave me this guy's dodge, and I'll tell you what,
Speaker 4: do not buy dogs pick up those crap?
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely. So look, we got looks like we've got
Speaker 2: Jimmy James on the line, so I'm gonna go to him,
Speaker 2: but I want to remind everybody. Look, you know, for
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, we're gonna still try and
Speaker 2: do this, uh the old fashioned way, the way we've
Speaker 2: been doing it. But uh, come May, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to change up the phone call system, it looks like.
Speaker 2: But we'll see what we can do about, you know,
Speaker 2: maintaining the phone number. For now, this number is the
Speaker 2: same at least all the way up until May first.
Speaker 2: Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 2: But even when BP doesn't take down a massive piece
Speaker 2: of power line, it's hard for him to get home
Speaker 2: from work on Fridays, So we might change to Wednesday
Speaker 2: or some other day of the week for the call
Speaker 2: in show, just saying, but we're going to try and
Speaker 2: keep it going and hopefully you guys will encourage us
Speaker 2: by joining. And I tried to put out a Facebook post,
Speaker 2: but I've got like five friends on Facebook right now
Speaker 2: because they only let me make a couple of friends
Speaker 2: a day. And I've got a new profile. So don't
Speaker 2: anybody feel bad if I haven't caught up to you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I had to get my kids on there
Speaker 2: and a few others because I had to start a
Speaker 2: whole new Facebook profile. Okay, but I did post on there,
Speaker 2: and I did post on the Twitter x because my
Speaker 2: account wasn't locked this week, you know, regardless of whether
Speaker 2: and by the way, that that lady you're talking about, Crockett,
Speaker 2: she made a bunch of wild statements at this like
Speaker 2: award ceremony or some such in California.
Speaker 3: Human Rights Organization meeting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought it was for some awards for
Speaker 2: the human rights organization.
Speaker 3: Wasn't it.
Speaker 4: It may have been, and that's where some of her
Speaker 4: most Landis comments have been made. You know, it just
Speaker 4: amazes me how some people can get elected, especially in Texas.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mentioned it last night on the
Speaker 2: news show. I kind of cracked up at her calling
Speaker 2: Abbot hot wheels, because I'm not one of these people
Speaker 2: that's over sensitive about picking on the handicapped app but
Speaker 2: some people were being out of shape about it because,
Speaker 2: in case you don't know, a Governor Abbit of the
Speaker 2: State of Texas is in a wheelchair. And and she said,
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna say up here, it
Speaker 2: might be wild. She was talking like that on the stage,
Speaker 2: and uh and and she just openly right away went
Speaker 2: after Governor Abbit and was and called him Governor hot Wheels.
Speaker 2: So I just brought that up last night. I thought
Speaker 2: it was kind of comical.
Speaker 4: But she was originally from Missouri, and come to find out,
Speaker 4: you know, she before she started running. Oh, there's videotapes
Speaker 4: of interviews with her totally different voice. She tries to
Speaker 4: pull this I'm a person up the street and the hood.
Speaker 4: Come to find out, she went to one of the
Speaker 4: highest cost private high schools in.
Speaker 2: Missouri, Okay. So there's video floating around out there of
Speaker 2: her going, oh, honey, child, and then there's video of
Speaker 2: her floating around going hello, ladies and gentlemen, I would
Speaker 2: like to welcome you, which is kind of funny. You
Speaker 2: know what that reminds me of is Hillary Clinton. Remember
Speaker 2: how when Bill Clinton was running for president, she was
Speaker 2: kind of like, I'm a down home Southern girl, and
Speaker 2: you know, and then she gets in there and he
Speaker 2: gets in there and whatever else, and then after a
Speaker 2: little bit she's like, I am actually the Senator from
Speaker 2: New York and and we'll not even speak with the
Speaker 2: human cadence any longer. Definitely the chameleon effect there or
Speaker 2: the what do they call that nowadays? Imposter syndrome where people,
Speaker 2: you know, don't realize or they don't know what they
Speaker 2: are legitimately, so they act as if and I don't know,
Speaker 2: we used to have other names for that, and I
Speaker 2: can't think of it any longer, but people used to
Speaker 2: act a certain way right to try.
Speaker 4: And what's that she is in point affectations.
Speaker 2: Affectations in the speech like a weird thing I used
Speaker 2: to see in Jersey a lot is. And by the way,
Speaker 2: that trucker that was trying to run for governor in
Speaker 2: New Jersey did drop out of the race. I thought
Speaker 2: he was an interesting candidate, but apparently he's going nowhere.
Speaker 2: And people are pissed at the Democrat in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: So they're going to probably put in the Republican because
Speaker 2: that's what they do over there. Every time, you know,
Speaker 2: they get a Republican governor in, they get pissed at him,
Speaker 2: they bring in the Democrat. They get pissed at the Democrat,
Speaker 2: they bring in the Republican. That's why Jersey's a purple
Speaker 2: state anyway, but really inconsistent about stuff over there. But
Speaker 2: the funny thing in Jersey I used to see is
Speaker 2: people accenting their ethnicity. White people mostly, like really heavily
Speaker 2: focusing on like, all of a sudden, you get a
Speaker 2: guy who's got a vowel at the end of his name,
Speaker 2: he's suddenly more Italian when he's hanging around me, you know,
Speaker 2: and like and other guys, because they would definitely think
Speaker 2: my name was Irish, they were suddenly more Irish. You know.
Speaker 2: They were almost doing the Lucky Charms commercials for me.
Speaker 2: Fricking I can't even do an Irish accent, but these
Speaker 2: guys would suddenly fall into it. And if you caught them,
Speaker 2: you know, in a mixed group, they wouldn't do that,
Speaker 2: you know, And I'd see black guys get more black.
Speaker 2: I'd see you know, different things happen like this. They
Speaker 2: would embrace their ethnicity or their alleged race one way
Speaker 2: or another and try to accent it more. And I
Speaker 2: never knew what we called that, but I just used
Speaker 2: to always find that comical that people would try to
Speaker 2: ingratiate themselves to others by, you know, adapting based on expectations.
Speaker 2: And usually it was a broad generalization. And the funny
Speaker 2: thing is it would be usually a bad impression. Like
Speaker 2: the guys who would try to be more Italian would
Speaker 2: suddenly use Italian words that they weren't used to using,
Speaker 2: so they use them in correctly, you know, Like they
Speaker 2: would say something like like a normal Italian speaking to
Speaker 2: another Italian might say something like, yeah, it's some man
Speaker 2: I got talking about food, right, Well, these guys would
Speaker 2: suddenly go into their full on Italian as best they could.
Speaker 2: But then they'd go Manicotti and I go up, you
Speaker 2: just blew it. You know, you're out a character, dude.
Speaker 2: I mean it's bad, you know. And some of them
Speaker 2: it was like, I'm just being a stereotype and I'm
Speaker 2: trying to be a tough guy. And that's why I
Speaker 2: used to laugh at Trump with his hands a certain way,
Speaker 2: because he was really mimicking a lot of Italians with
Speaker 2: the hands certain ways. That hole bringing his hands together
Speaker 2: and pulling them apart when he's making a point. That's
Speaker 2: a very Italian gesture. I mean, we talk with our
Speaker 2: hands anyway. Every once in a while. You'll hear me
Speaker 2: even bang into my own microphone while I'm talking. But
Speaker 2: it's natural. I'm not doing it for anybody. Nobody can
Speaker 2: see me doing it, all right, so I'm not doing
Speaker 2: it to put on a show for anybody. It's just
Speaker 2: and be beat. You've been around me in person for
Speaker 2: days in a row, you know I talk with my hands, right,
Speaker 2: A lot.
Speaker 3: Of people do.
Speaker 4: I had an aunt and they used to kid her,
Speaker 4: so you know if they cut off her hands, he
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll be half asleep and waving my
Speaker 2: hands around while I'm talking. It might not be as
Speaker 2: good or as intense when I'm making a point or whatever,
Speaker 2: but you know, both hands are not necessarily even up.
Speaker 2: If I'm half asleep, I might be waving the right hand,
Speaker 2: you know, here and there like because my hands are
Speaker 2: even half asleep at the time. Right. Anyway, it is
Speaker 2: what it is like I said, we got Jimmy James
Speaker 2: on hold, and I'm hoping more people will call in
Speaker 2: three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six.
Speaker 2: But I say, before you and I have more conversations,
Speaker 2: we get to hear from Jimmy. And we're definitely gonna
Speaker 2: have to hear from Jimmy on the Uncle Show tonight
Speaker 2: because we're gonna finally see where his bet actually came down.
Speaker 2: Aaron sent me the recorded excerpt from the Uncle Show
Speaker 2: that night when we did the Super Bowl bets, because
Speaker 2: Jimmy seems that they can on one side of the
Speaker 2: bed as opposed to the other. But we're gonna everybody's
Speaker 2: gonna have to wait for eleven o'clock to get there.
Speaker 2: I'll play the clip and stuff and let Aaron handle
Speaker 2: it on that show with Uncle. Well actually I let
Speaker 2: Uncle handle it and Aaron will help him. But that's
Speaker 2: where that's going. But meantime, let's see what else Jimmy
Speaker 2: James has on his mind. Jimmy, I gotta say, you know,
Speaker 2: when they put me take me off hold on ground zero,
Speaker 2: it's even weirder than anything I could possibly do. They
Speaker 2: popped me off and on hold when I'm on a phone.
Speaker 2: It's like insane. They give me ten seconds to answer stuff.
Speaker 2: Did you happen to hear that show? By the way, Jimmy, yes,
Speaker 2: you heard the three questions. I just I don't know
Speaker 2: if you heard me describe it to be Pete. But basically,
Speaker 2: I had the lady who was like half right, and
Speaker 2: then she went into Judy Baker territory without mentioning Judy.
Speaker 2: And I had the e Howard Hunt already spilled the
Speaker 2: beans guy, and then I had the Jimmy Files confessed guy,
Speaker 2: and and of course Clyde followed it up with JD.
Speaker 2: Tippet's Botty was switched with JFK. And I'm like, uh,
Speaker 2: I mean literally, if there was a video on that,
Speaker 2: you would have seen my head in my hands. But anyway,
Speaker 2: this might not even be what's on your mind this week?
Speaker 2: Go ahead? What's on your mind?
Speaker 1: I have to correct myself. Apparently the one I heard
Speaker 1: is a different show than that one.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but what did you hear?
Speaker 1: It's just a different episode with some different nuts.
Speaker 2: Oh well, hey, that happens too, So what's on your
Speaker 2: mind this week? Brother? Whatever?
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't this, it was you on a show
Speaker 1: from a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, god knows what I was talking about. Then, yeah, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, you are around with.
Speaker 2: Nature boy, Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna ask Jimmy, have you got a
Speaker 3: new phone?
Speaker 1: He used to do?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that explains it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sounds a lot better this week, and then
Speaker 2: he has it. Anyway, Jimmy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: I think, well, different things, different things, different things. One
Speaker 1: thing I'm on mine is representative Luna. Uh trap set Morley,
Speaker 1: he said three things that we're just playing incorrect even
Speaker 1: on his phone call.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you're talking about on the on the
Speaker 2: you're talking about on that zoom call? Were you were
Speaker 2: you on there?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen I was on there, but I've seen it.
Speaker 2: Okay. No, I don't necessarily agree with Morley on all
Speaker 2: of his points either, by the way. Uh, I agree
Speaker 2: that there is new information about Angleton in there, and
Speaker 2: he never saw his unredacted testimony before where he clearly lied.
Speaker 2: But you know, going beyond that, with the rest of
Speaker 2: this stuff Morley's talking about, I'm not so sure. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced as he is. Maybe what are your thoughts.
Speaker 1: Well, why is he even talking about Angleton at this point?
Speaker 1: Has everyone already in one year forgotten who the hell
Speaker 1: Bruce Solely is? Well, we need major Newman on here.
Speaker 1: Please get Major Newman on here. I need I would
Speaker 1: really like to be able to talk to the man.
Speaker 2: Look, I have tried to book Newman. I'm telling you now,
Speaker 2: I've tried to book Newman and a couple of things
Speaker 2: are weird about him right now. First of all, he
Speaker 2: hasn't responded to my direct messages. And secondly, somebody is
Speaker 2: impersonating John Newman online and I don't know who that
Speaker 2: person is, but they're apparently going around trying to grift
Speaker 2: some money off of people in stuff up with his
Speaker 2: name on social media. So he uh, he did say
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago he was going to abandon Facebook,
Speaker 2: but I think it's gone further now. Somebody is like
Speaker 2: literally trying to contact other JFK researchers and convince them
Speaker 2: to send him money. And it's under John Newman's you know,
Speaker 2: name and face and stuff on different social media platforms.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what's going on there. I'm just
Speaker 2: telling you that this is one of the weird obstacles.
Speaker 2: I've had to try and book them in, but go ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, nonetheless less representative lunas she seems to be
Speaker 1: uh earnest, and I've liked everything I've heard or read
Speaker 1: about her. I have more Confidt's in her than anyone
Speaker 1: in the House currently. Bad the way, bpe bad luck.
Speaker 1: That clown Tom Cotton was speaking recommended to Trump not
Speaker 1: to recommend to release the JFA documents. And not only
Speaker 1: that him in this Waltz character in the White House,
Speaker 1: and their aid that added that clown to that call.
Speaker 1: Let's just say they have connections. So Tom Cotton is.
Speaker 3: Is uh reason for not wanting to release this stuff?
Speaker 2: Tom Cotton's reasoning, I don't know. He was one of
Speaker 2: the voices though that was against it. Now I caution
Speaker 2: you with Luna about this, uh Jimmy James, and that
Speaker 2: is remember that even if she is enthusiastic about this,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad to see that, really I am. And
Speaker 2: she's even going to have morally testify in front of
Speaker 2: her committee, her task force. Uh specifically, I think you
Speaker 2: know she's also responsible for that UFO fiasco a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago. That was another committee that she was
Speaker 2: a big part of And you remember the guy who
Speaker 2: came out and said, you know, we have captured aliens
Speaker 2: and all that in front of Congress.
Speaker 1: Was the was this the incident? Word was that three
Speaker 1: guys in uniform that came in and did this.
Speaker 2: There was a couple of guys in uniform, but the
Speaker 2: guy who made the most brash statements was not a
Speaker 2: military guy.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: The military guys came out and pretty much did you
Speaker 2: know what they were supposed to do, which is, yeah,
Speaker 2: I filmed uh you know this odd object near my plane,
Speaker 2: this and that, like the pilots and all that. But no,
Speaker 2: this guy said he had worked for various agencies, and
Speaker 2: apparently he did, but he was making all kinds of
Speaker 2: wild statements that nobody could back up. And even when
Speaker 2: he said he had other people that could back up,
Speaker 2: you know, certain things that he witnessed about reverse engineering,
Speaker 2: alien technology and all these, you know, all the stuff
Speaker 2: that people in UFOLand wanted to hear for a long time.
Speaker 2: You know, it didn't turn out so well. The hearings
Speaker 2: kind of went off the rails, and you know, we
Speaker 2: had a bit of national press coverage over it, but
Speaker 2: it didn't really help anything. It was just the one
Speaker 2: guy's wild claims, you know what I mean. So she
Speaker 2: was involved in that whole thing that wound up creating
Speaker 2: that one agency for reporting. But yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Well that's the one thing I'm worried about. Just from
Speaker 1: hearing her on that call, I could tell that, while interested,
Speaker 1: she's not super knowledgeable about the assassination or the Cold War,
Speaker 1: because why would she be right?
Speaker 2: I mean, potentially if the wrong person gets in her ear,
Speaker 2: I mean, we could be looking at I mean, it's
Speaker 2: great to have morally go and testify whether I think
Speaker 2: everything he's saying is correct or not. At least he
Speaker 2: knows the material. But I mean I could see somebody
Speaker 2: potentially getting in her ear and trying to get her
Speaker 2: to get Judy Baker up there or something, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, that could happen. I'm just saying, and I
Speaker 2: would be really upset about that. But legitimacy, as far
Speaker 2: as people in Trump's orbit regarding their interest in this case,
Speaker 2: at least they're interested. That's a good thing. Even you know.
Speaker 2: Billy Celestie's grandson had met with Trump at a certain point,
Speaker 2: and he said he played the tape for Trump himself.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't know where that went,
Speaker 2: if it helped, if Trump understood what he was hearing,
Speaker 2: I have no clue, but I'm keeping an open mind
Speaker 2: about it and hoping that enthusiasm can somehow be steered
Speaker 2: into accomplishing something, because thus far, let's get real, the
Speaker 2: CIA has not produced anything new. Despite the executive orders
Speaker 2: directive to all agencies to you know, release new stuff
Speaker 2: and everything else, the CIA and various other agencies are
Speaker 2: not in full compliance with the JFK records collection law,
Speaker 2: and they are not producing new material as per the
Speaker 2: executive order from Trump they did allow. And the recent
Speaker 2: document dump finally lets us get at the stuff that
Speaker 2: we should have seen in twenty seventeen. But that's as
Speaker 2: far as we've gotten here progress wise, although in the
Speaker 2: past twenty four hours, to my knowledge, we might have
Speaker 2: seen the release of those FBI documents, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're new, if their copies of if their
Speaker 2: origin is from somewhere else and it's just the FBI's copy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I haven't been able to go
Speaker 2: through the new ones yet that were just dropped. So,
Speaker 2: you know, more to come apparently, and more work will
Speaker 2: be done as the day's go oh bye. But are
Speaker 2: we going to lose the public's interest in the meantime
Speaker 2: is my question? And that was that problem with that
Speaker 2: Cory guy on that uh Union of the Unwanted call
Speaker 2: where he's going into his whole thing about why happened
Speaker 2: to know David Ferry was on the grassy hole and
Speaker 2: and I went in, Jesus Christ, dude, we were here
Speaker 2: to discuss how we're going to get the general public
Speaker 2: to understand what's happening here. Uh, And they steered the
Speaker 2: conversation back into it. But Larry and myself, Larry Hancock
Speaker 2: and me both left that that particular podcast early because
Speaker 2: there was no point.
Speaker 1: Had a good uh equipped when that guy stirred that
Speaker 1: I liked one of Morley said are you ever wrong?
Speaker 2: Are you ever wrong about anything? Corey? I like that.
Speaker 2: That was pretty funny because everybody like fell silent at
Speaker 2: that point. So no, Morley handled him well. And again
Speaker 2: I've got a contentious sort of relationship with Morley, you know,
Speaker 2: so it's not like I'm the biggest fan of Jefferson Morley,
Speaker 2: but respect where respectors do. He handled that well, and
Speaker 2: he's been good about getting the word out. He's gone
Speaker 2: on everybody's show. Even did Bill O'Reilly show recently? Did
Speaker 2: you see that one?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't even know Bill O'Reilly had a show.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Ever since he was dismissing.
Speaker 1: I like, all right, I mean I disagree with his
Speaker 1: CIA promise ideas same as well as they say. I
Speaker 1: guess most researchers believe the CIA was behind it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not one of them. I would say that
Speaker 2: complicity is a certainty, and there was a time when
Speaker 2: I thought the CIA might be responsible. But are they complicit?
Speaker 2: I would say absolutely, and they're definitely part of the
Speaker 2: cover up ever after. But as far as you know
Speaker 2: the actual operation, No, I got disagreements there. And you
Speaker 2: met you asked, why is it we're still talking about
Speaker 2: freaking Angleton. Well, you know, they finally cleared the redactions
Speaker 2: on his testimony. They finally cleared the redactions on a
Speaker 2: few other things that have to do with him, And
Speaker 2: we now know that sitting on Angleton's desk for some
Speaker 2: reason a week before the assassination is Lee Harvey Oswalt's
Speaker 2: file that the CIA had that they denied they had
Speaker 2: for many years Oswald's file is literally sitting on his
Speaker 2: desk a week before the assassination. Kind of strange, especially
Speaker 2: when he's the counterintelligence guy and also in charge of
Speaker 2: special investigations. Okay, so you know, weird things going on there,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot more to the Angleton story, much
Speaker 2: like there's a lot more to the Hoover story when
Speaker 2: you consider that, you know, he probably had ten twenty
Speaker 2: times the files that Hoover had in his private files.
Speaker 2: Angleton had files big enough to fill up a whole room.
Speaker 2: You know that they dragged away and nobody's ever known
Speaker 2: the disposition of those things. So you know there's something
Speaker 2: to be said there. And the guy's a significant figure
Speaker 2: when it comes to a lot of things that happened,
Speaker 2: So he's somebody worthy of talking about. But does he
Speaker 2: get us to the solution on the Kennedy assassination? That is?
Speaker 2: What do they say? Another kettle of fish? Right? So
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, what are your thoughts there?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 7: I was going to say about see here she Professor
Speaker 7: Joe Mellan would disagree with.
Speaker 1: I think his characterization in her books Faustian bargains. I
Speaker 1: believe it is. She makes it pretty clear. That is
Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy himself, like a month before, who pretty much
Speaker 1: took Oswald off of the special skirt in the lists.
Speaker 1: Do you recall that?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but see him not being on that list
Speaker 2: for alerts is one thing. The other thing is that
Speaker 2: he was being tracked by you know, one of the
Speaker 2: programs where they were opening people's mail and tracking their
Speaker 2: mail and also keeping track of their most recent you know,
Speaker 2: home addresses and all that stuff through HT lingual.
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, But didn't doctor Newman say
Speaker 1: that the guy though Solei's the guy that ran that
Speaker 1: whole program and he was a Soviet mole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's.
Speaker 1: My memory that could be.
Speaker 2: But you know, Newman in recent writing has gone into
Speaker 2: this whole, you know, very deep on the mole deal.
Speaker 2: And look, I don't totally discount it, but I don't
Speaker 2: know exactly how much evidence he has to back it
Speaker 2: all up because I haven't read that that most recent
Speaker 2: release is still I haven't actually acquired that book, but
Speaker 2: you know, I've read some of the things he said online,
Speaker 2: and I've listened to some of his interviews, and what
Speaker 2: can I say? You know, Newman's going in a direction
Speaker 2: Morley's going in a direction, and the direction I'd like
Speaker 2: to see us all go in is finally giving people
Speaker 2: new evidence on what we all know has not been
Speaker 2: given to us in full up to this point. You know,
Speaker 2: the official explanation is lacking. The conspiracy culture, so to speak,
Speaker 2: has not quite grown or cultivated the correct answer yet.
Speaker 2: And I would like to see somebody come out with
Speaker 2: a much more solid theory based on you know, some
Speaker 2: of the submergent evidence. It's not going to be all
Speaker 2: in the government files though. I was telling Clyde Lewis
Speaker 2: the other night, you know, if you're waiting for the
Speaker 2: smoking gun documents, stop waiting. You know, it's not coming
Speaker 2: out of the government. That's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But we are learning things about different parts of history,
Speaker 2: different interactions, what's really going on.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Some people are very much focusing on the Israeli angle again. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know which I clearly scoff at in general, this
Speaker 2: idea that you know, the Masade is responsible, Because ask
Speaker 2: that guy who says that if he thinks the Masade
Speaker 2: is responsible for other things, and he'll give you a
Speaker 2: long list usually, you know what I mean, Like they're
Speaker 2: running the world according to these guys. So everything happened
Speaker 2: right right, Which look, I'm not a again not a
Speaker 2: supporter of Israel either, but you can't pin everything on
Speaker 2: the state of Israel.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like people that want to pin this
Speaker 2: on hw Bush too. If we would have given Clyde
Speaker 2: Lewis about ten more minutes, he was probably going to
Speaker 2: get into that, you know, after his JD. Tippetts swap
Speaker 2: bodies with Kennedy thing, he was going to go there,
Speaker 2: you know about about h w And oh he was
Speaker 2: a daily plaster. Oh my god, I'm getting a headache
Speaker 2: already just thinking about it. But there's a lot more.
Speaker 1: Work to be another another bizarre. It was just interesting
Speaker 1: that like, uh, I listened to Dershwitz his dirsh cast
Speaker 1: and uh he was a law law clerk during the
Speaker 1: assassination of fact. He's the one that went in and
Speaker 1: alerted Chief Justice Warren and all the other justices that
Speaker 1: Kennedy had just been shot. And they got him to
Speaker 1: go get his little portable TV because he had the
Speaker 1: only TV in the justice building, right because he the
Speaker 1: on the reason he had it was because he liked
Speaker 1: to watch baseball games. Anyways, they went and watched it,
Speaker 1: and later on he was actually offered a position as
Speaker 1: a warren on the Warrant Commission, as a staff member,
Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of law clerks. Well, the
Speaker 1: Warrant Commission was made up of law clerks from the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court and Pallid Court and all that.
Speaker 2: Well, for instance, Arlen Spector was a junior counselor. He
Speaker 2: was just a lawyer at that time, and he was
Speaker 2: a junior counselor meant to be a part of a
Speaker 2: team of two. Right, Specter becomes a very significant figure,
Speaker 2: but he was not a major figure at the time
Speaker 2: of the Warran commission go ahead.
Speaker 1: Well, what I find interesting is that, and he said
Speaker 1: he was interested in the gig. But then the justice
Speaker 1: that he worked for said, don't do it ours, it's
Speaker 1: going to be it's already. They aren't going to search
Speaker 1: for the truth. They're going to who'd come to a
Speaker 1: foregone conclusion to avoid war with the Soviets. Don't get
Speaker 1: into this, don't get involved. And of course, as soon
Speaker 1: as soon as he learned that they weren't going to
Speaker 1: actually be allowed to investigate the thing, he didn't get involved.
Speaker 1: But he said some people that he was working with
Speaker 1: did get involved, and after that they were just done
Speaker 1: with the law. Love of them were just just disillusioned.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he knew that the guy that ended
Speaker 1: up being a judge, Judge Bert judge anyways, sorry as
Speaker 1: interrupting someone, No.
Speaker 2: I remember Bert. His first name was Bert though, right, man,
Speaker 2: I can't remember his last name now, But yeah, he
Speaker 2: wound up being a judge. Yah, yeah, good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got he have fire kind of early on, right,
Speaker 1: because he rubbed the yeah that was authorities the wrong.
Speaker 2: Well I thought he had pissed off Rankin, who was
Speaker 2: the chief counsel but either way it doesn't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he got out of there pretty quick, but he had
Speaker 2: some interesting things to say afterwards. And yeah, there was
Speaker 2: a bunch of people. I mean, don't forget the guy
Speaker 2: who was supposed to be the senior counselor as part
Speaker 2: of the team with Spector shows up once and once
Speaker 2: he got his marching orders and his paperwork, he never
Speaker 2: went back. The guy never even appeared again, the supposed
Speaker 2: senior counselor on that team, So Spector worked by himself.
Speaker 2: You know, I can't His name was Frank something or other.
Speaker 2: I think it was from New York. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't even hardly remember the guy's name because he
Speaker 2: showed up once and then never went back because they
Speaker 2: knew that they already had their conclusion in hand. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've seen the Executive Session since, but I guarantee there
Speaker 2: was a lot of stuff going on. And I believe
Speaker 2: Dershowitz when it comes to this, is that it was
Speaker 2: probably already part of the chatter generally speaking in DC
Speaker 2: and among people in the know that like, look, we're
Speaker 2: gonna have to sort of, you know, bottle this up
Speaker 2: quickly because if we don't, people are going to be screaming.
Speaker 2: We got to go after the Soviets. After all, Oswald
Speaker 2: tried to defect, and after all, you know, people in
Speaker 2: the know, hush, hush, he was in Mexico City trying
Speaker 2: to go to Cuba, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: those things traveled around people say, oh, Johnson made that up.
Speaker 2: I don't think Johnson made it up. I think he
Speaker 2: picked it up from the chatter that was already all
Speaker 2: around DC. But you know, again, people argue with me
Speaker 2: about that, and what can I say? You know, because
Speaker 2: there is tapes of Johnson saying it but I promise
Speaker 2: you he didn't originate that idea even and neither did
Speaker 2: any of his counsel. Tell you, what we're gonna do,
Speaker 2: be Pete, is take a little break here. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put Jimmy on hold, and what we'll do is see
Speaker 2: if anybody else wants to call in and join us.
Speaker 2: How much of the show have we killed or read?
Speaker 2: Looks like we're almost at one hour, So time for
Speaker 2: a break, for sure, and I urge you to stay
Speaker 2: with us. Call in three one nine five two seven
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Speaker 2: keep it that way till the beginning of May anyway,
Speaker 2: And uh, we're we're gonna do this on Friday night tonight,
Speaker 2: obviously we're doing it. Uh next week? Do you think
Speaker 2: we're gonna do it on Friday again?
Speaker 3: Bpte, Well, I am will do what Dad is to
Speaker 3: make it back. It just depends on the schedule here.
Speaker 4: Friday lately it's either we get snowed out or we've
Speaker 4: got a threat of snow and so they just go
Speaker 4: ahead and.
Speaker 3: Cancel the cruise on Friday.
Speaker 4: So we'll see what this week has in a store,
Speaker 4: but I'm trying. The problem is getting out of there
Speaker 4: early enough to be able to make it back here.
Speaker 4: So someone what we can do is, if nothing else,
Speaker 4: if I'm in the middle of traveling, I can stop.
Speaker 3: Do the show and then continue traveling once.
Speaker 2: Well, either that or you could actually call in. I
Speaker 2: could leave you on the call line and that way
Speaker 2: you could just kind of leave your if you're because
Speaker 2: you'll be traveling alone in the truck, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'd use Skype on my phone anyway, So yeah,
Speaker 4: just you know, on the phone.
Speaker 2: Okay, but let's just say it's a better connection though
Speaker 2: to use your cell phone. Maybe you could always call
Speaker 2: in and I'll just keep you on the line there
Speaker 2: to co host if you want.
Speaker 3: You know, we'll figure something.
Speaker 2: We'll figure something out. But but if you miss another
Speaker 2: show because you can't make it back, we we might
Speaker 2: consider moving it to another day. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 4: I thought about that, but you usually have you usually
Speaker 4: have Mike and somebody on Wednesdays.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but we'll just change it and then if
Speaker 2: Friday is open for them. You know, that changes the
Speaker 2: dynamic too, because that might make it easier for I
Speaker 2: know it makes it easier for Mike. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: about Larry. I know he was having trouble with Thursdays
Speaker 2: per a bit. So if we take Wednesday, maybe I
Speaker 2: move Larry to Tuesday, or I move Larry to Friday.
Speaker 2: And Mike only wants to come on once a month,
Speaker 2: so between the two of them, I'm sure I can
Speaker 2: find spots. You know, if it's better for us to
Speaker 2: do this regularly.
Speaker 4: If we move itto Wednesday, there's no problem. I can
Speaker 4: do it from a hotel room.
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what. Then we'll look at that.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll move it to Wednesday, but for now we're
Speaker 2: leaving it on Fridays, and hopefully you guys will join
Speaker 2: us on Fridays. But it might be a better change
Speaker 2: for people calling in too, so we'll talk about it,
Speaker 2: you and me off air. But in the meantime, stick around.
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Speaker 2: all that call in three one nine, five two seven
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Speaker 2: the week that we do this show, but that means
Speaker 2: I'll have to replace it with something on a Friday,
Speaker 2: and uh, we'll regularly make sure that we have something
Speaker 2: going there. I've been trying to uptick the the production
Speaker 2: and the rate of production lately on the podcast. Hopefully
Speaker 2: you guys have noticed, uh, and we're getting things out there.
Speaker 2: Also ten o'clock tonight, we'll be listening to the Age
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Speaker 2: but we'll be catching up on all the Super Bowl
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Speaker 2: and even play a tape back from the show where
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Speaker 2: until then, call in tell us what's on your mind
Speaker 2: while I got weeny dogs a Barkin three one nine
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Speaker 2: I saw Robin in there and I see Aaron in there.
Speaker 2: Plus of course we've got Bpete's video of the Week
Speaker 2: and looks like an Anon dropped in a video. Don't
Speaker 2: know what that is, but hey, we do have the
Speaker 2: active chat at ocelly dot com. So if you're hearing us,
Speaker 2: let's see what time it is. Actually, if you're hearing us,
Speaker 2: just about ten minutes after nine pm Eastern, maybe eleven
Speaker 2: minutes now after nine pm Eastern on this particular Friday,
Speaker 2: the twenty eighth day of March, we're live. But otherwise
Speaker 2: it's a recording, and without a time machine, you can't
Speaker 2: call in three one nine, five, two seven, five year
Speaker 2: or one six, So b Pete, a couple of odd
Speaker 2: questions I had for you. I was thinking about some
Speaker 2: things lately, and I went and had to talk to
Speaker 2: missus O there during the break, and she was gonna
Speaker 2: call in, but now she's busy talking on the phone
Speaker 2: to her mom. Uh, are your parents still alive? I was.
Speaker 2: I'm always curious about this, like you know, once you
Speaker 2: get to a certain age. I mean, I don't have
Speaker 2: this experience because I lost one of mine real early,
Speaker 2: and the other one, you know, was lost to me
Speaker 2: a long time ago, so I didn't really have parents
Speaker 2: as an adult. Are your parents alive and were they
Speaker 2: alive for some of your adulthood or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Back let's see, in two thousand and nine, I went
Speaker 4: over to Switzerland when I came back and in twenty eleven,
Speaker 4: my dad we all went out to eat.
Speaker 3: And he's got a piece of steak caught in.
Speaker 4: His esophagus, and it's something that had happened to my
Speaker 4: mom in the past.
Speaker 3: They went to the emergency room.
Speaker 4: They gave her some I don't know, cottle liver oil
Speaker 4: or something she swallowed and the piece of beet passed
Speaker 4: well with my dad.
Speaker 3: He wasn't uncomfortable, he was able to breathe it all.
Speaker 4: He just had that he could feel piece of steak
Speaker 4: caught in the esophagus.
Speaker 3: So we took him to the emergency.
Speaker 4: Room and they decided to go in and scope him
Speaker 4: and see if they could get it out.
Speaker 3: And the.
Speaker 4: Here knows the throat guy that decided to do the
Speaker 4: procedure gets down in there.
Speaker 3: And tries grabbing this piece of meat.
Speaker 4: Instead of pushing it through, he tries to tracted with
Speaker 4: a pair of tweezers and ends up carried my dad's esophagus,
Speaker 4: which caused a collapsed lung. So they wheel him back
Speaker 4: into the emergency room and they do surgery. He ended
Speaker 4: up being in ICU on a ventilator for about three
Speaker 4: months and so subsequently, you go on a ventilator. If
Speaker 4: you're on there too long, you lose your muscles and
Speaker 4: your throat, your ability to swallow, and things like that.
Speaker 4: He got a real bad infection from it, so we
Speaker 4: had him move from one hospital to another hospital, and
Speaker 4: he gets another infection. Another collapsed a long. They go
Speaker 4: in and do some procedures. He ended up being in
Speaker 4: the hospital for about ten months and.
Speaker 3: Had to go through therapy. Once he got everything taken
Speaker 3: care of. He had a feeding tube, he had.
Speaker 4: A track in place, and we fought with the hospital
Speaker 4: I don't know two three months.
Speaker 3: Finally we got him into therapy and we were able
Speaker 3: to get him home.
Speaker 4: And the whole time, the doctors kept pushing to put
Speaker 4: him in a nursing home, and all I'm sitting there,
Speaker 4: going he doesn't need to go to nursing home.
Speaker 3: He's got a home. I had come back from Switzerland
Speaker 3: and didn't have anything.
Speaker 4: I was the only kid that didn't have kids, wasn't married,
Speaker 4: didn't have anything going on. So I spent a couple
Speaker 4: of years taking care of him around the house, and
Speaker 4: he finally passed away in twenty and twelve, and it
Speaker 4: wasn't long After that that, my mom was diagnosed with lymphoma,
Speaker 4: so we took her through that whole chemo thing. She
Speaker 4: passed away in twenty and fifteen.
Speaker 2: What were they together when your dad passed away or
Speaker 2: were they?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, they they had built a house out in
Speaker 4: the country. It took two small farmhouses and moved him
Speaker 4: to some property that they bought, put him on foundations,
Speaker 4: gutted it, and then just redid the inside, built a
Speaker 4: whole new house out there.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 4: So they I mean they were living the dream. They
Speaker 4: had ten acres out there in the country. And yeah,
Speaker 4: they were together until dad passed away and my brother
Speaker 4: came down, ended up buying the property from my parents
Speaker 4: and you know, told mom, you know, this is your house.
Speaker 4: You stay here as long as you want. By that time,
Speaker 4: I was able to go back to work full time
Speaker 4: once we got well, and then she came down with
Speaker 4: the limphone and all. My brother was able to help
Speaker 4: take care of her.
Speaker 3: The end of that time.
Speaker 4: But yeah, they were. They were there my whole you know,
Speaker 4: most of my adult life.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean you got to keep your parents
Speaker 2: all the way in the middle. I'm just always interested
Speaker 2: in that dynamic because I never had it, So it's
Speaker 2: like weird to me, Like, you know, you're an adult
Speaker 2: and you already have you know, adult parents and you
Speaker 2: know they're still around, Like I have no idea what
Speaker 2: that's like. So anyway, it is a thing.
Speaker 3: Well we have.
Speaker 4: You know, I had four brothers, the sisters, so we
Speaker 4: pretty big family.
Speaker 3: But once mom passed.
Speaker 4: Away, you know, we were all the kids were never
Speaker 4: really close. We're scattered over the US, so it was
Speaker 4: hard getting people back and all that.
Speaker 3: So but we still keep in touch.
Speaker 4: I've got a sister that lives about thirty minutes away,
Speaker 4: brother lives thirty minutes away. I got one in Texas,
Speaker 4: one who is spending his retirement traveling, and who's RV Okay,
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's kind of it's it's it's different
Speaker 4: when your parents pass. You don't have that incentive to
Speaker 4: to get back for the holidays. You know, mom and
Speaker 4: dad ain't got long left, so you know, we need
Speaker 4: to go back and spend this Christmas or this Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: And a lot has changed since things. But yeah, it's
Speaker 4: fortunate to be able to have them up until I
Speaker 4: was what sixty.
Speaker 2: Now, hey, look, it's just interesting to me, because it's
Speaker 2: just like a curious thing to even have that, you know,
Speaker 2: as ash as something in your life. But anyway, moving along,
Speaker 2: we got a couple of things we didn't even bother
Speaker 2: to mention yet. I mean, we could have talked about
Speaker 2: the VP and his wife's trip to Greenland. We could
Speaker 2: have talked about there's an earthquake and meandmar and all that.
Speaker 2: I think there might be a James Jesus Angleton's song
Speaker 2: in the chat room. Maybe I'll take a risk and
Speaker 2: see if I can actually run the audio through for
Speaker 2: everybody real fast, see if that's what it is. Well,
Speaker 2: here I'm running the song here, hold on.
Speaker 13: Down in the cloth where the fire is of Lifeline,
Speaker 13: James Jesus tells around the night, Oh your papers are on.
Speaker 13: I haven't seen James Jesus honestly.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's very weird. And the video is very weird too.
Speaker 2: And Anon dropped that in the chat room. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess I'll include a link to it with the
Speaker 2: show notes. But definitely weird. You were saying, BPTE something.
Speaker 2: I want to get back to Jimmy James and see
Speaker 2: if anybody else on the line. But you were saying something,
Speaker 2: and Jimmy.
Speaker 4: Can probably shed some light on it, and I've heard
Speaker 4: it just in passing the past couple of weeks. But
Speaker 4: when they started releasing the files and everybody was coming
Speaker 4: out saying, oh see, the CIA was behind it this
Speaker 4: that I heard bits and pieces of a story where
Speaker 4: they're saying that the CIA was involved in the Kennedy
Speaker 4: assassination and they also set up Nixon. And I thought,
Speaker 4: how could you set up Nixon in that he supposedly
Speaker 4: didn't know about the breaking into the water Gate, but
Speaker 4: he was guilty of trying to cover up finding out
Speaker 4: what happened. So I'm wondering, how is it And I
Speaker 4: don't know if you've heard any of this, I'm sure
Speaker 4: Jimmy can say some light. How is it that the
Speaker 4: CIA supposedly set up Nixon for Watergate?
Speaker 3: What is it that they set up?
Speaker 2: All right? Well, from the files, I don't know where
Speaker 2: they're getting it from the files all right, But separately,
Speaker 2: I would say that it is an interesting supposition because
Speaker 2: a whole lot of CIA people, and I've said this
Speaker 2: for years, even a whole lot of CIA people who
Speaker 2: should have known better and shouldn't have been getting busted
Speaker 2: on a simple black bag job, get busted on a
Speaker 2: black bag job. It almost looks intentional. So it looks
Speaker 2: to me like the CIA guys who you know, bungled
Speaker 2: things and it's supposedly, you know, the biggest bungled burglary
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, you know that narrative they've always fed us. Well,
Speaker 2: if you consider that it was done intentionally, then yet
Speaker 2: it looks like the CIA instead of you know, doing
Speaker 2: whatever it is they did to facilitate things regarding the
Speaker 2: Kennedy assassination, instead they facilitate you know, the biggest scanned
Speaker 2: in US political history. Basically because even now when we're
Speaker 2: talking about this signal controversy, right, they're calling it signal Gate,
Speaker 2: ever after everything has gate after it because of Watergate,
Speaker 2: you know, And it almost seems intentional because of course
Speaker 2: they run psychological operations, they run media influence campaigns. We
Speaker 2: know that they were, you know, clearly, and that's one
Speaker 2: thing that did come out in the files is that
Speaker 2: they're clearly having discussions. I mean, Schlessinger is even telling
Speaker 2: Kennedy it's like forty seven percent of you know, the
Speaker 2: people that we have in diplomatic positions are really under
Speaker 2: diplomatic cover, they're working for the CIA directly.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, But I thought that was you know that
Speaker 4: that's pretty much been a known thing. Yeah, over the years.
Speaker 4: But my question was how you know they's but.
Speaker 2: They kept that they kept that Slessinger memo withheld in
Speaker 2: almost almost in full, like a whole page of it,
Speaker 2: because it revealed a lot of things that people in
Speaker 2: the know would have known. It's slightly embarrassing to the CIA.
Speaker 2: But here's the problem with it is if the public
Speaker 2: doesn't understand that it's embarrassing to the CIA, who cares? Right, Like,
Speaker 2: that's you know what I'm saying, like, and for you
Speaker 2: and me, we're going yawn, Yeah, of course we knew that.
Speaker 2: But now there's absolute proof that people that were on
Speaker 2: the inside of the administration knew this. And indeed, you know,
Speaker 2: the whole Kennedy's going to smash the CIA into a
Speaker 2: thousand pieces, and all that reported by the was it
Speaker 2: New York Times, a New York Post reporter? You know,
Speaker 2: after the fact, you know, seems like he did seriously
Speaker 2: ask Lessenger, listen, give me an idea how we would
Speaker 2: go about doing this? How do we actually dismantle this thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can understand with Nixon basically end in the
Speaker 4: Vietnam War and pulling this out.
Speaker 3: You know, of course you wait until a second term
Speaker 3: to do it.
Speaker 4: But the theory I heard was, you know, the military
Speaker 4: industrial complex were getting ready to lose the money making heyday,
Speaker 4: so is the war ended? So they wanted to take
Speaker 4: Nixon out and they set him up with Watergate to
Speaker 4: get him out. And I'm sitting there thinking, but the
Speaker 4: war was already over, you know what, so they get
Speaker 4: revenged by getting rid of Nixon. Did they think that
Speaker 4: the war was going to crank back up because the
Speaker 4: Democrats had already voted to defund the.
Speaker 3: Whole thing at that time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the war was their way to end.
Speaker 3: It was to cut off the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the war didn't end. The war didn't end
Speaker 2: at that time. At the time of the Watergate, the
Speaker 2: war wasn't over yet, right, So you know, could it
Speaker 2: be that they wanted to seal it so there was
Speaker 2: no way this guy would have the political capital to
Speaker 2: do anything and finish the job. Maybe that was part
Speaker 2: of it, but I don't think it was about maintaining
Speaker 2: the Vietnam War. I think it was about getting Nixon
Speaker 2: out of the way because he was literally dumb enough
Speaker 2: to think he was in charge. I mean, I really
Speaker 2: do feel that way. But again that's my personal opinion.
Speaker 2: As far as what the documents reveal about it, I
Speaker 2: don't see anything significant there that lends itself more to
Speaker 2: that conclusion about Nixon. Uh, but it does fill in
Speaker 2: some gaps, like I said about you know what people
Speaker 2: in the know actually knew and all that. Jimmy James
Speaker 2: is still on hold. We'll bring him on see if
Speaker 2: he's got anything to say about it. He just might. Uh,
Speaker 2: and anybody else who wants to join us look up
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Speaker 2: phone calls. So it's all working fine and dandy. Although
Speaker 2: we might change days, as we said, who knows, we
Speaker 2: might not, and we're definitely gonna have to change the
Speaker 2: way we do phone calls come May, but we'll see
Speaker 2: when we get there. Three one nine five two seven
Speaker 2: five zero one six. And uh, we'll just bring Jimmy
Speaker 2: back since he's the only caller so far. Jimmy you
Speaker 2: got any thoughts on what you've heard discussed here in
Speaker 2: the past few minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nixon was definitely removed by a bloodless coup deveta.
Speaker 1: I won't go so far as to stay. I won't name,
Speaker 1: I don't I have my suspicions, but he was clearly removed, right.
Speaker 2: And I think Helms was. I think Helms was actively
Speaker 2: involved in trying to CYA on this because there was
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff about to come out through the
Speaker 2: various committees, a lot of questions were being asked about
Speaker 2: the CIA. There was a lot of discovery. We have
Speaker 2: the MK search thing going on, you know, recording MK
Speaker 2: Ultra and all that. I mean, there's a bunch of
Speaker 2: things happening here all at once. So it could be
Speaker 2: that the CIA just didn't like the fact that Nixon
Speaker 2: thought he was, you know, in a position where he
Speaker 2: could demand things from them or asked questions. And we
Speaker 2: know about what was dramatized in that Nixon movie, but
Speaker 2: there was a meeting between Dick Helms and Richard Nixon
Speaker 2: where Nixon's making demands of Dick Helms, and I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure Dick Helms pretty much told him, Yeah, do you
Speaker 2: know who you're talking to, who's your boss? You know,
Speaker 2: it seems like just saying that's the way it looks
Speaker 2: to me. Maybe again, maybe it's just me, but that's
Speaker 2: the way I see it. And the CIA would have
Speaker 2: had a clear motive to get him out of the
Speaker 2: way in a bloodless coup, really, because he was asking
Speaker 2: too many questions and also thought he could rain them in.
Speaker 2: And maybe somebody said just as simple as hey, Kennedy
Speaker 2: thought he was going to reorganize us and make the
Speaker 2: DIA the new premier organization in our national security state.
Speaker 2: And we can't have that because we know about the
Speaker 2: competition between the POND, the OSS, the CIA when it
Speaker 2: was first being established, and a couple of other agents
Speaker 2: that were competing for supremacy in the national security state. So,
Speaker 2: you know, a little more benign way to look at it.
Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, bloodless coup would be a nice
Speaker 2: way to put it. Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I have to correct you on one thing.
Speaker 1: My problem with the Super Bowl bet was not my bet.
Speaker 1: I already said, yeah, I bet on Kansas City because
Speaker 1: I thought they would win. My issue was that I
Speaker 1: remember the Robin also bet on Kansas City and therefore
Speaker 1: when out of one, but he says he picked Eagles,
Speaker 1: so I guess hopefully he's got the right recording.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a recording, and b by the way, if
Speaker 2: you can find it on my speaker, there's a transcript
Speaker 2: for every show, So I have that functionality on the
Speaker 2: spreaker where it creates a transcript automatically for every show.
Speaker 2: So if you go to my speaker account, you look
Speaker 2: for the night that we did the dollar bets on
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, you can read it and listen to
Speaker 2: it if you want, just saying it's there, and I'll
Speaker 2: double check all of that before you know, we make
Speaker 2: final declarations here. But tonight we're going to explore just
Speaker 2: a piece of tape and talk about who's who what.
Speaker 2: But I'll definitely double check it over the course of
Speaker 2: this coming week, as as I had JFK files this
Speaker 2: past week that I've been digging into intensely and spending
Speaker 2: too much time on it, honestly, and trying to get
Speaker 2: my own take on this stuff, not just you know,
Speaker 2: follow everybody else's ideas. And it's been an interesting journey,
Speaker 2: but I have not learned a great deal of new stuff.
Speaker 2: I think I've got about a collection of maybe twenty
Speaker 2: entirely new documents maybe out of what sixty some one
Speaker 2: thousand that I have at least done a partial search on.
Speaker 2: So you know, the actual total, I'm not sure of
Speaker 2: at this moment off the top of my head, but
Speaker 2: I do know that there have been at least four
Speaker 2: or five releases in batches, and the first one was
Speaker 2: like thirty two thousand, the next one was like thirty
Speaker 2: one thousand, and then there was a release of like
Speaker 2: less than one hundred and Uh. There's also some new
Speaker 2: FBI ones that I have not touched yet. I haven't
Speaker 2: been a ZIP folder, but I haven't touched them yet.
Speaker 2: So still working on it. Guys, what can I tell you?
Speaker 2: I'm not going to make up a story just to
Speaker 2: answer a question about any of that stuff. But anyway, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: any other thoughts you have before we move along in
Speaker 2: the conversation.
Speaker 1: Well, about all I've seen that was new was a
Speaker 1: bunch of thought recordings that I've either never noticed or
Speaker 1: I thought they were just uploaded. Most of them seemed
Speaker 1: to be from the Garrison Investigations already had them all anyway,
Speaker 1: from that upload by Lenna Sank where they uploaded, didn't
Speaker 1: them before?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I missed part of that, Jimmy because my
Speaker 2: sound dipped on my end. I'm sure everybody else heard you,
Speaker 2: but I didn't. What'd you say?
Speaker 1: The first link I got it had three blinks. The
Speaker 1: only thing I really seen knew in the JFK stuff
Speaker 1: was a bunch of audio recordings that either I never
Speaker 1: noticed or it has to be part of the new stuff,
Speaker 1: but they mostly seem like recordings from the Garrison investigation,
Speaker 1: and I already had all of them from that upload
Speaker 1: that Lenosana had a few years ago with all them
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: Now, I didn't notice any new audio, so that must
Speaker 2: have been something from before. Yeah, I just posted what
Speaker 2: I had up to the twenty sixth as far as
Speaker 2: the pages go. But there is another release either today
Speaker 2: or yesterday. In addition, if you go to the National Archives,
Speaker 2: you you can follow up on this stuff, and they
Speaker 2: have it pretty well organized, except they haven't done a
Speaker 2: like a spreadsheet on these so that you could easily
Speaker 2: cross reference stuff. But otherwise, I mean, they are pumping
Speaker 2: it out now. It is putting it out, and allegedly
Speaker 2: they're working on scanning stuff right now. As I speak
Speaker 2: from what I understand, But thus far we've got. On
Speaker 2: the eighteenth, they released thirty two thousand pages at about
Speaker 2: seven pm Eastern time. On the eighteenth, again ten thirty
Speaker 2: they released another thirty one thousand pages, thirty one thousand,
Speaker 2: four hundred pages, that is, at ten thirty pm Eastern
Speaker 2: on the eighteenth. And then on the twentieth, at about
Speaker 2: nine thirty PM Eastern, thirteen thousand pages were released. And
Speaker 2: on the twenty sixth you got fifty three pages in
Speaker 2: sixteen pdf files that was released at three thirty pm Eastern.
Speaker 2: But today I think there's another release in progress or
Speaker 2: being scanned whatever. It's in progress. Let's just put it
Speaker 2: that way, so you know, not done yet, by the way,
Speaker 2: so there may be more to be revealed soon, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure, or maybe not. I guess we'll have to
Speaker 2: stay tuned as per usual. Right anyway, b Pete, what
Speaker 2: else we got? You got anything else you want to
Speaker 2: talk about? You want to talk about the earthquake or
Speaker 2: any other political chicanery or how about you know what
Speaker 2: is it? Now? Trump is issued in executive order he
Speaker 2: wants to correct the culture at the Smithsonian Museum. I
Speaker 2: think he says they've got the wrong agenda over there
Speaker 2: or something. I don't know what else you got on
Speaker 2: your mind.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I've totally just given up on trying to pay attention
Speaker 4: to Trump this stuff going on.
Speaker 3: You know, I understand that.
Speaker 4: He came in blazing doing the stuff just as fast
Speaker 4: as he could, create so much chaos that the other
Speaker 4: side can't keep up with it. But I really don't
Speaker 4: understand his reasoning behind some of this stuff. I just
Speaker 4: don't get it, and I've removed myself from it to
Speaker 4: the point that I really don't give a crap anymore.
Speaker 2: Now I understand, and I've said over and over again,
Speaker 2: you know, this follows. This tracks with what Bannon said,
Speaker 2: which is we're going to flood the zone. So that's
Speaker 2: what we've been dealing with for about what is it
Speaker 2: almost night? Has he been in there ninety days? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think get Jebruary February of March.
Speaker 4: Not quite.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, it seems like ninety years, but sixty sixty
Speaker 2: days because there's been so much allegedly going on and
Speaker 2: then so much actually going on. You know, the signal
Speaker 2: chat thing. By the way, I played the AI voice
Speaker 2: reading of the signal chat last night on the podcast
Speaker 2: in case you wanted to listen to it as opposed
Speaker 2: to trying to read it best I could, though, because
Speaker 2: the AI didn't identify the people speaking when they were
Speaker 2: going by, so I tried to do that, and it
Speaker 2: also didn't voice the emojis that they were using, like
Speaker 2: at certain points they're doing high five emojis and fire
Speaker 2: and American flags and you know, celebrating during the chat.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just tried to relate it. This is
Speaker 2: what's actually in it. And that was from the release
Speaker 2: from The Atlantic Reporter, which I thought had to release
Speaker 2: the stuff because they were starting to accuse him of
Speaker 2: like why is he even in on that chat? We're
Speaker 2: gonna have to investigate it. Uh, you know, hey, he's
Speaker 2: a bad guy. You know, he made up Russian Russian
Speaker 2: and Russian stories and all this stuff. I mean, really
Speaker 2: trying to make it seem like maybe he was a liar.
Speaker 2: So I mean, obviously he had to drop the stuff
Speaker 2: out there. You say it's not classified, Well, here it is.
Speaker 2: You know, what are you going to do? I mean
Speaker 2: that's a weird situation. You have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: By the way, be Pete about this signal chat and uh, you.
Speaker 4: Know, well somebody was set up for them, for that
Speaker 4: guy to be able to get access to it and
Speaker 4: then put his story out there. Of course, the Atlantic
Speaker 4: is this guy is known for making claims that don't
Speaker 4: hold up.
Speaker 3: So he comes out big guns.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all this classified stuff was discussed and blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, and then we find out it's it's basically
Speaker 4: a nothing burger. I just it amazes me the things
Speaker 4: that the headlines and are made into stories and eventually
Speaker 4: you find out there's nothing to it. Well there's no
Speaker 4: reporting anymore of what's actually going on.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you something. You really think it's
Speaker 2: a nothing burger that before the strikes happened, these guys
Speaker 2: have a reporter in there in a conversation between the
Speaker 2: head of the guys.
Speaker 4: The story, that's the story we're not getting, is how
Speaker 4: in the hell this guy got into that chat?
Speaker 3: Apparently it was what some aid that I mean, how
Speaker 3: did he did he send him the link or did he?
Speaker 4: I mean, how did it happen? That's the story I
Speaker 4: want to hear. I don't care about the conversation. If
Speaker 4: they want to sit there and high five each other
Speaker 4: and post a bunch of American flags talking about a
Speaker 4: hit that they're going to make on a bunch of
Speaker 4: idiots over in Yemen. That's, you know, creating chaos for
Speaker 4: anybody trying to use the Red Sea. Fine, but the
Speaker 4: story is how did this guy get involved in it?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm waiting to hear.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm just but the question I'm asking is,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't bother you that this guy is potentially
Speaker 2: getting the heads up about something like an airstrike happening
Speaker 2: before it happens.
Speaker 4: That bothers me because I'd like to find you know,
Speaker 4: Trump went through this during his first term and so
Speaker 4: many people that were undermining him from within the structure
Speaker 4: of the administration. You know, how is it that this time,
Speaker 4: something like this, this reporter was allowed to be put
Speaker 4: on that chat and nobody noticed that he was there.
Speaker 3: That's the part I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 3: You have a group chat. You know who's in the group.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't understand it at all, because apparently you
Speaker 2: have to be invited in. And again you got the
Speaker 2: head of the CIA, you got Tulci Gabbard there, you
Speaker 2: got the vice president there. That's quite an interesting group
Speaker 2: of people that you're in on a chat with. So
Speaker 2: some connected to one of those people, or indeed one
Speaker 2: of those people is responsible for.
Speaker 4: This, right, was it it Walts's aid or something that
Speaker 4: they've tracked down, was the one that somehow sent the
Speaker 4: link out or something?
Speaker 2: Well, as far as I got, I thought it was
Speaker 2: Walt's himself, but maybe it was Waltz's aid. It's connected
Speaker 2: to him.
Speaker 3: He's made the comment he says, I don't know who
Speaker 3: this guy is. I've never met him before, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't recognize this number. And apparently it was Walts's aid.
Speaker 2: Well he said it after he said it after the fact.
Speaker 2: But nobody said anything, which you just pointed out. Nobody
Speaker 2: said anything during this chat, which is weird to me
Speaker 2: because all these people that are involved in sensitive signaling
Speaker 2: and you know, classified work constantly, nobody bothered to ask
Speaker 2: about I mean, like, okay, I know who Tulca gabbartt is.
Speaker 2: I know who jd Vance is. Who the hell is
Speaker 2: this guy JG? That makes no That is one of
Speaker 2: the weird stories here.
Speaker 3: It's a lot like you're in a chat with two
Speaker 3: hundred people.
Speaker 4: Well, no, it's not like my question is why didn't
Speaker 4: somebody notice that there was a number in that group
Speaker 4: that wasn't responding, that wasn't taking part in the conversation,
Speaker 4: and go, wait, who the hell is this guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I have the same open question. And again
Speaker 2: because you're you're regardless of how they're messaging and talking about. Well, gee,
Speaker 2: I'm tired of you know, the people in Europe or deadbeats.
Speaker 2: They don't defend their own shipping lanes. Uh, and what
Speaker 2: I don't care about any of that. My point is
Speaker 2: that this is troubling that not only did you know,
Speaker 2: let's just say somebody's aid did this, Okay, somebody's trying
Speaker 2: to do it. Maybe they're trying to undermine things. Maybe
Speaker 2: they legitimately thought this guy's name is similar to somebody
Speaker 2: else's that need to be there. Whatever. The weird point
Speaker 2: to me is that all these people in charge of
Speaker 2: our national security nobody bothered to look or ask. So
Speaker 2: something is very strange here, and that's the open question.
Speaker 2: I find it troubling. And it's not because oh there
Speaker 2: was top secrets. No, there wasn't a lot of top
Speaker 2: secret there. But this is in advance of airstrikes. So
Speaker 2: let's just imagine for a moment this guy Goldberg is
Speaker 2: sympathetic to the Hooties. Well, a couple hours ahead of time,
Speaker 2: he could go, hey, guys, guess what the US is
Speaker 2: about to attack you. I have it on not only
Speaker 2: good authority, I have it on the authority.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know about this time a clock, you might
Speaker 4: want to find somewhere else to.
Speaker 2: Be, you know, because they even specifically in that chat
Speaker 2: talked about there's a particular terrorist target we want to hit.
Speaker 2: He is apparently at somebody's house right now, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna hit it. I mean, it's a bit much if
Speaker 2: this guy, and again potentially who knows what this guy's
Speaker 2: loyalties are. I don't know Goldberg myself. I'm not that
Speaker 2: familiar with him. I didn't even think he was a
Speaker 2: big name. I mean, I know the Atlantic and he
Speaker 2: can say whatever you want about that publication. But regardless
Speaker 2: of where the guy came from, he doesn't belong in that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So, but I can't understand how the hell he
Speaker 4: got in and how he stayed someone didn't notice.
Speaker 2: But I don't point the dirty end of the stick
Speaker 2: at him, because again, other people should have been aware
Speaker 2: of this, and somebody put him in there, like you said,
Speaker 2: and the idea that again, the head of the CIA,
Speaker 2: the director of National Intelligence, the head of the State Department,
Speaker 2: the Vice President, nobody bothered to even Look, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say about that, but it
Speaker 2: is troubling one way or another, So I don't you know,
Speaker 2: That's why I bring it up, and that's why I
Speaker 2: wanted to play for everybody what it was exactly. You know,
Speaker 2: that was released at least, and apparently he withheld some
Speaker 2: of it anyway, because even though the White House pretty
Speaker 2: much said, you know, no problem, no problem, all day
Speaker 2: later on that night, before he released the story, they
Speaker 2: kind of went to him and said, there is a
Speaker 2: piece in there that's sensitive and maybe you don't want
Speaker 2: to share that, you know, don't release that part of it.
Speaker 2: So they did finally tell him part of it was
Speaker 2: something that was too sensitive, and he withheld it, so,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I don't blame the reporter though,
Speaker 2: and I don't even see the point of trying to
Speaker 2: point to even his past track record, because the guy
Speaker 2: shouldn't have belonged there, regardless of who he is. Or
Speaker 2: what is uh uh if it was, I don't know,
Speaker 2: Mark Levin, his ass shouldn't have been in there, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it just should not have happened. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a weird thing. Jimmy, what do
Speaker 2: you think about that whole signal uh? You know, signal
Speaker 2: gate or whatever they're calling it. You have any thoughts
Speaker 2: on it?
Speaker 1: You know, Waltz's staffords fired today because it was him
Speaker 1: that did it. Uh? Yeah, Well, see, as far as
Speaker 1: Greenberg goes, he should have the meat at the minute
Speaker 1: that he realized to listening into a restricted not top secret,
Speaker 1: not even confidential. It's unless at the beginning of the call,
Speaker 1: the Secretary of Defense said that this is top secret.
Speaker 1: It was not top secret. It is restricted information that
Speaker 1: this clown reporter should have hung up immediately. It's him
Speaker 1: that's in violation of the National Security Act.
Speaker 4: How is he a violation that somebody sent him the
Speaker 4: link by.
Speaker 1: Listening into information he had absolutely no business listening into.
Speaker 1: The minute he started hearing the names, he should have
Speaker 1: hung up. He was not an invited party.
Speaker 4: Someone someone to disagree with you there, Jimmy, he was
Speaker 4: given a link and invited into this conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, somebody did invite him in, and somebody from
Speaker 2: one of those offices. And if it's a guy, look,
Speaker 2: they blame this staffer. And let's just go with that
Speaker 2: story and say it's true. I don't know if it is,
Speaker 2: because sometimes you know, they'll throw out a sacrificial lamb.
Speaker 2: Let's fire this guy over it. Uh, but let's just
Speaker 2: as human's true.
Speaker 1: Let's just think let's just the human's true. Haven officials,
Speaker 1: the vice president doesn't do the tech work. They have
Speaker 1: these clowns that work for them. Of course, they don't
Speaker 1: set up phones and whatnot.
Speaker 3: Of course part of the bureaucracy.
Speaker 1: It's almost as if the bureaucracy is once again trying
Speaker 1: to sabotage Trump. In fact, the other Waltz, the one
Speaker 1: that ram for vice president today, flat out called for
Speaker 1: a shadow government, which is a joke because there already
Speaker 1: is one. Yeah, damn party.
Speaker 2: Look, I agree that there's already a shadow government. But
Speaker 2: the thing is the Okay, somebody invited him in, that
Speaker 2: was part of that. Now, I don't know that this
Speaker 2: was part of the bureaucracy, or this is one of
Speaker 2: this guy's hand pickades. I don't know this guy's track
Speaker 2: record even, Okay, I'm just saying that, let's just go
Speaker 2: with the idea that this guy did it. Therefore, the
Speaker 2: reporter was invited in by somebody from that office.
Speaker 1: Right now, he was at the intended No he was.
Speaker 1: Does he have a high clearance?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 14: But as you said, Jeff, what happens when a JFK
Speaker 14: researcher gets documents that they find out they shouldn't have had.
Speaker 1: They get shook down and get in trouble, now, don't they? Yeah, situation, Well,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, exactly. I find it ironic that I
Speaker 1: hear these characters. What oh, none other than John Dean
Speaker 1: was on MSNBC running down someone about, oh, the snowman
Speaker 1: weaken papers and he's taking a boy. These traders got
Speaker 1: me these trees and as people need to be locked up,
Speaker 1: I thincond your best body was the Pentagon leaker. Did
Speaker 1: you feel the same way about him? No?
Speaker 2: See, but that's an intentional leak. My point is that, look,
Speaker 2: a reporter sometimes gets called into these chats, gets called
Speaker 2: into phone calls, uh, you know, and and things like
Speaker 2: this all the time by people in the government so
Speaker 2: that they can be informed about this or that or
Speaker 2: the third thing. So initially I would say this guy
Speaker 2: could have been called in on this and thought nothing
Speaker 2: of it just because the chat. He's probably involved in
Speaker 2: a bunch of them now and then right some committees
Speaker 2: working on a new farm bill. They wanted to know
Speaker 2: the details before it comes out.
Speaker 3: The same thing with them, Julie the songs. You know
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 4: People called him a trader for publishing things. He wasn't
Speaker 4: a trader for publishing material he was, and the question
Speaker 4: comes in, did he help somebody hack to get the information.
Speaker 3: That's a separate argument.
Speaker 4: When you look at the Pentagon papers, or you look
Speaker 4: at Edward Snowden, you look at Juliana Sange, they had
Speaker 4: materials that were given to them that when they published them,
Speaker 4: they should be protected from it. If somebody invited me
Speaker 4: into a chat, it doesn't matter about clearances or anything
Speaker 4: else being involved in the chat. They weren't discussing classified information.
Speaker 4: They were discussing sensitive information, but it wasn't classified.
Speaker 3: So the reporter.
Speaker 4: Doesn't have If he's invited into that chat, he has
Speaker 4: no responsibility to hang up the phone.
Speaker 3: He's gonna listen and take notes. I would do it.
Speaker 3: Anybody would do it.
Speaker 2: And look commonplace thing. Well okay, but a commonplace thing.
Speaker 1: I want to make one. I just want to say,
Speaker 1: what would happen if a bank accidentally deposited a million
Speaker 1: dollars into your account be peep with it? Would they say?
Speaker 1: No big deal? Even though you weren't in the intended recipient.
Speaker 4: You're comparing apples and pliers. You're not even in the
Speaker 4: same fruit root.
Speaker 2: Well you're not.
Speaker 4: There's totally unrelated to what we're discussed. We're talking about
Speaker 4: information to a report.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get. I'll tell you he was
Speaker 1: not one of the intended recipients.
Speaker 4: Okay, but as an unintended intended recipient, they invited him in.
Speaker 2: As somebody who got a deposit like that in a bank.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, here's the thing about it. You're not
Speaker 2: going to get prosecuted for the deposit because that was
Speaker 2: somebody else's action. That's not your fault. Okay. Uh Now,
Speaker 2: if you take it, what's that? Yeah, if you spend it,
Speaker 2: but that's a separate action. You see. If you do
Speaker 2: nothing and it sits there and they go, hey, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, we sent this to you incorrectly you're not
Speaker 2: in trouble for it being sent to you, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So unless you spend it, yeah right in this case,
Speaker 1: or if you apprehends of the phone call and then
Speaker 1: publish it in the national paper.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But see, listening into the phone call. Listening into
Speaker 2: the phone call wasn't the problem because that's something that
Speaker 2: possibly happened based on the fact that somebody else invited
Speaker 2: him into it. What I'm saying is now when he
Speaker 2: published it, this is afterwards, and this is after a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff that's different.
Speaker 1: Now, do we know that there's no way in hell
Speaker 1: anyone that set up that group intended for him to
Speaker 1: join someone subverted just yeah, a someone that was up
Speaker 1: to no good.
Speaker 2: Clearly I was about to explain that, well, I was
Speaker 2: about to explain that without a nefarious motive behind it.
Speaker 2: Because here's what happens with these reporters a lot. And
Speaker 2: I know this from some experience myself. You get called
Speaker 2: into some of these chats sometimes where a government person,
Speaker 2: a lawyer or somebody else is informing you about something
Speaker 2: that's going on, and they want to inform a group
Speaker 2: of people that are in the media and people that
Speaker 2: work for a publication like The Atlantic get called into
Speaker 2: these things all the time by government agency people, by
Speaker 2: like I said, lawyers that are involved in lawsuits, you know,
Speaker 2: famous people that are keeping their you know, communications restricted,
Speaker 2: their pr person sets the thing up, whatever, and a
Speaker 2: lot of times people get called into them, they get invites,
Speaker 2: they get invited in. Some of these things contain semi
Speaker 2: sensitive information or information they're giving them ahead of time.
Speaker 2: Here's your head's up. We're going to let you know
Speaker 2: about stuff. I mean, I even know about what the
Speaker 2: JFK records releases that the CIA turned around and briefed
Speaker 2: members of the media before they release the stuff in
Speaker 2: what was it, twenty twenty two, They turned around and
Speaker 2: did that in order to you know, give them the
Speaker 2: heads up, here's what's going to come out. And it
Speaker 2: wasn't even technically in the public's hands yet, right, so
Speaker 2: it hadn't been made public yet, but they were letting
Speaker 2: people in on. By the way, this is what the
Speaker 2: CIA has to tell you about what's in the documents.
Speaker 2: Nothing to see here except well maybe this, maybe this.
Speaker 2: They briefed those guys. That's why they were publishing whole
Speaker 2: articles on it. You know, ten minutes after they dropped
Speaker 2: the documents in twenty twenty two, because they had already
Speaker 2: been briefed. Sometimes they get briefings from government agencies about
Speaker 2: benign things about you know, hey, look a disaster happened.
Speaker 2: We're going to respond. There's shooting going on in a
Speaker 2: particular country. There's been a regime change. This is the
Speaker 2: government's official position on it. We're letting you know, and
Speaker 2: that's how they get things out. So this guy could
Speaker 2: have been invited into one hundred chats that week, for
Speaker 2: all we know, could have been invited on a bunch
Speaker 2: of different group calls and things like this, not just
Speaker 2: chats but calls, you know, conference calls even because that's
Speaker 2: part of what they do as a reporter. Right. But
Speaker 2: once he realized what was going on there, hey, look
Speaker 2: he said he signed out of it when he realized
Speaker 2: what was happening. I don't know how long it took
Speaker 2: him to figure it out. And again we could discuss
Speaker 2: that if you like. But somebody who was working for
Speaker 2: one of these guys, and again I don't know clearly
Speaker 2: that it was somebody just you know, part of the
Speaker 2: general government bureaucracy, uh, because I don't know that guy's
Speaker 2: track record, but I would check on it because he
Speaker 2: might be a handpicked assistant for this guy who has
Speaker 2: now lost his job, because obviously this was not the
Speaker 2: right thing to do. But I don't know that I
Speaker 2: would be so quick to, you know, say that this
Speaker 2: guy did something wrong. And the reason why he published
Speaker 2: it is because they were making all these statements about
Speaker 2: it and saying that there was nothing classified, it was
Speaker 2: no big deal anyway. And he kind of said, okay,
Speaker 2: and now you're trying to make it sound like I
Speaker 2: snuck in there or something and I'm a liar. Well,
Speaker 2: here's the truth of it. This is actually what I saw,
Speaker 2: so you know. And the other thing is, now we
Speaker 2: got that judge by the way, saying you better preserve
Speaker 2: the records of this, and I think that's correct as well.
Speaker 2: All these records need to be preserved. And I don't
Speaker 2: know signal signal. I think disappears like a snapchat.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this judge. This judge is
Speaker 1: a district judge. Yeah, he has no damn business getting
Speaker 1: involved with anything of any national importance.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He needs to do something with these clown judges. We
Speaker 1: can't have four thousand little want to be presidents trying
Speaker 1: to interfere with the one true chief executives' policies. This
Speaker 1: is assina. This is exactly what I predicted would happen
Speaker 1: a year ago. If Trump was elected, all the bureaucracy
Speaker 1: would once again come out of the wood work obstructors agenda,
Speaker 1: this tang true district judges mostly well, pretty absurd.
Speaker 2: Well, look that that is definitely the uh, you know,
Speaker 2: the administration's position. I would say, though that just on
Speaker 2: the subject of preserve the damn records, though it is correct,
Speaker 2: somebody at NARA should say it, but nobody at NARRA
Speaker 2: ever challenges the executive branch and tells them, hey, look,
Speaker 2: preserve this stuff because that's part of the legal process.
Speaker 2: Even though you are the executive, you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: destroy records, so keep them all. That's one of those
Speaker 2: things they're supposed to do. Now, we could talk about
Speaker 2: who violated it, how often, and which executive ever followed it.
Speaker 2: Actually we could talk about that. But the idea that
Speaker 2: you know, he was saying that that would be the
Speaker 2: correct legal position. Now as to whether this guy should
Speaker 2: be saying it or not, another question. But anyway, we're towards.
Speaker 1: The end about that. My understanding is article to the
Speaker 1: president's demand that they can decide what's uh classifyed not classified.
Speaker 1: Would you say that Judge said he's trying it's not
Speaker 1: about president. No. No, no, it's documents.
Speaker 2: No no, no, it's not about president.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: The president doesn't have a choice with Yes, I will
Speaker 2: argue that the president doesn't have a choice about preserving
Speaker 2: the documentation. That's sort of thing they're all supposed to do.
Speaker 2: You know, they are supposed to uphold the laws all ship.
Speaker 1: The president is the shock caller on what's classified and
Speaker 1: what is Yes.
Speaker 2: I know, I didn't argue about what's classified. Jimmy, listen again,
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing about what's classified. Please, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: make the simple point that he can't destroy records. That's all.
Speaker 2: He's supposed to preserve it all, all of them were
Speaker 2: supposed to. That's got nothing to do with Trump or
Speaker 2: anybody else or a particular political blah blah. They're all
Speaker 2: supposed to not destroy their records. They're supposed to preserve
Speaker 2: the records.
Speaker 1: All of the government record. It's a signal chat okay,
Speaker 1: which which destroys itself after you use it. My understanding is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what makes it problematic to even use
Speaker 2: the damn thing.
Speaker 3: But anyway, will wanted them to use it.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go another one with Like I said,
Speaker 2: we can go back and if you want to revisit
Speaker 2: it all we could talk about all the destruction of
Speaker 2: the records that should not have occurred under various chief executives.
Speaker 2: But technically speaking, they're all supposed to be if they're
Speaker 2: doing government business, they're supposed to preserve the records of it.
Speaker 2: It's just a general rule, I know. But anyway, it
Speaker 2: is what it is, and uh, it will be what
Speaker 2: it will be. And we're almost at the end here.
Speaker 2: So Jimmy, you got a final thought for this week?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Is it time to go already? Oh? Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: It is, uh.
Speaker 1: Holy Macro, Yeah time.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I just pray for the Obamas and I
Speaker 1: just pray that they get through this rough patch and
Speaker 1: their marriage. I know they have them on hell of
Speaker 1: a time. This that and the other thing. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe doctor Phil can help him out. I believe he's
Speaker 1: based out of Chicago. Also, wasn't he in Oprah.
Speaker 2: That is almost you got some great TV and radio ideas. Jimmy,
Speaker 2: you really need to pitch these things to people. I
Speaker 2: think you can get paid. Seriously, that would be great.
Speaker 2: Doctor Phil handles the Obama you know, marriage counseling live
Speaker 2: on pay per view even I think that'd be great anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, yeah, billion dollars. The first president ever
Speaker 1: and first lady to admit they got problems and then
Speaker 1: come out and do diagnosis or whatever you call it
Speaker 1: with a psychiatrist on TV. Oh my goodness. We could
Speaker 1: pay off the national.
Speaker 2: Debt doctor Phil as their marriage counselor and then bring
Speaker 2: in a special guest, whoever the hell is hot doing
Speaker 2: it now, as the sex counselor. Right, Jimmy, thanks for
Speaker 2: calling in. Appreciate you, and maybe we'll hear from you
Speaker 2: later during the Uncle Show. I think we will hear
Speaker 2: from you then because we're going to be discussing the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl bets at eleven PM. But until then, b Pete,
Speaker 2: you got a final thought for the week.
Speaker 3: Well, all I.
Speaker 4: Can say is I must really have been way up
Speaker 4: in the mountains because I didn't realize that Barack and
Speaker 4: Big Mike were having problems.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the look. I don't buy that story,
Speaker 2: but it floated for a little while in extreme right
Speaker 2: wing circles and in trash you know, in trash media
Speaker 2: circles that they're supposedly getting divorced because he's having an
Speaker 2: affair with Damn. I forget who the famous person is.
Speaker 2: He's supposed to be having an affair.
Speaker 3: Honist And I did hear it that far? There you go,
Speaker 3: supposedly got food food. But yeah, how do we know
Speaker 3: Big Mike's not carrying on with somebody? Well back now,
Speaker 3: we need to look into that.
Speaker 2: Jimmy, See, we do need to look into that. And
Speaker 2: I say, Jimmy has the right idea. Doctor Phil sounds
Speaker 2: just about right, bpe right.
Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd go with doctor Phil. Maybe
Speaker 3: what was it, doctor.
Speaker 2: Laurel Oh, doctor too bad? Ruth Westheim out is dead? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but maybe you'll find your answers on the internet anyway.
Speaker 2: But is that shinging noise one.
Speaker 4: Of those stealth helicopters with computerized noise cancelation capability?
Speaker 2: Well, they're still working the chains out.
Speaker 8: Wow, do you know about stealth?
Speaker 4: Help all dot conspiracy dot black dot helicopters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'll tell you what that dang old internet
Speaker 2: mane just going on there and point and click getting
Speaker 2: into talking about ww dot com. You got naked chicks
Speaker 2: on there, man, you go.
Speaker 7: Click click, click, clicklicklick clicklickiate it's real lazy man, yep.
Speaker 2: And that's how you find your information on the Internet,
Speaker 2: whether it's about Big Mike or Little Barack or Barry
Speaker 2: or anybody else. Be Pete, I thank you for co
Speaker 2: hosting this with me, and as for the rest of you,
Speaker 2: stay tuned for the Age of Transitions coming up next.
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Speaker 2: effect chip in at o'chelly dot com. And also I
Speaker 2: didn't get to get it get with you, Bpete about
Speaker 2: cutting of the food bank support from the government this week.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll cover that next week because I know you
Speaker 2: always mentioned the food banks before we get out of here,
Speaker 2: but we're out of time this time. Maybe next time
Speaker 2: we get together and hopefully you'll