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<v Speaker 1>Ready, get ready for.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Hey Friar's Day. And it is the twenty eighth

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<v Speaker 2>day of March twenty twenty five, allegedly, according to that

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<v Speaker 2>thing we call a calendar. This Theocelli effect. You listening

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<v Speaker 2>to us hopefully live on a Friday, it's about six

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<v Speaker 2>minutes after eight pm Eastern if you are hearing us live,

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the fun part of the Friday show.

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<v Speaker 2>For now, we may switch days that might come up

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<v Speaker 2>in the next month or so. We're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>switch facilities we use to run the show because Skype

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<v Speaker 2>is going away in May, and I've been using that

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<v Speaker 2>as the main connectivity so I could connect to the

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<v Speaker 2>phone calls in the system and all that. We're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find a new way. I'm gonna have to come

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<v Speaker 2>up with a new way to get together with my

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<v Speaker 2>co hosts. Obviously we had an experiment a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, but in the meantime, we're doing it the

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<v Speaker 2>old way tonight, and we'll have the Age of Transitions

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<v Speaker 2>at ten pm, we'll have Uncle the Podcast at eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the bye we're also going to get to

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<v Speaker 2>finally solving the Super Bowl bets. Months later on the

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<v Speaker 2>Uncle Show between eleven and midnight Eastern, So that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the meantime, we're taking your calls, me and

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<v Speaker 2>my co host b Pete and be Pete and I

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<v Speaker 2>might have to move to I don't know, Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what day yet, maybe Monday. Gotta work

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<v Speaker 2>on it, gotta figure it out. And plus the change

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<v Speaker 2>in the way we're going to do things will be

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<v Speaker 2>another thing. But anyway, for now, we still have the

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<v Speaker 2>same phone number three one nine, five, two seven, five

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<v Speaker 2>zero one six three one nine five two seven five

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<v Speaker 2>zero one six And gotta say I want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you guys tonight. I've spoken enough about current events

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<v Speaker 2>and the news lately, been putting out those podcasts. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not getting the same reaction to him this week that

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<v Speaker 2>I got previous weeks. But that's okay about four news

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts this week altogether, But that's okay. Looking to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you what you're thinking about the world around us

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<v Speaker 2>as it goes, and by the way, anything else you

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<v Speaker 2>got on your mind. I saw a preview for a

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<v Speaker 2>new Star Trek movie. Now, maybe you don't care about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe you're into. I don't know the latest comic

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<v Speaker 2>book thing, whatever it is. Are they still doing comic

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<v Speaker 2>book movies? I don't know Star Wars, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know anymore man. And also I might

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<v Speaker 2>have to go to church tomorrow morning, but who knows

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<v Speaker 2>what else we'll discuss during this show. And glad to

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<v Speaker 2>have be Pete with us, because two weeks now I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have him. One week I did the Third Rail

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<v Speaker 2>with Dave there with Nature Boy and that was at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time on Friday, and another week he just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't make it back home from work, which might be

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<v Speaker 2>why we have to actually shift the days that we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do the call in show. And who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it'll do better on a Wednesday or Thursday or

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<v Speaker 2>a Tuesday, or I don't know, we'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Try on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday, hmmm, I don't know. But Saturday, see Friday and

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday suffer from the same kind of problem where people

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<v Speaker 2>tell me it's the weekend. I want to go out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or I want to do something, or they

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<v Speaker 2>got you know, like I would do it on a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Sunday is a great day. But football season

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<v Speaker 2>for some of you guys, forget it. You're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be calling us right, So I know that.

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<v Speaker 3>To watch Davis and talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, if I told you we're gonna do this every Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be like, ah, crap, you know, because you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have the game on. I know. Anyway, b Pete, it

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<v Speaker 2>is good to hear from you, man. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>still the the Dallas plans coming together. Oh by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>what was it night before last? I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>night yeah, night before last. I did a ground zero

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<v Speaker 2>radio talking about the JFK documents. Hey, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call in and talk about that, we can do

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<v Speaker 2>that too. Still a work in progress. Don't ask me

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<v Speaker 2>to have big, definitive answers just yet. Some people seem

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<v Speaker 2>to think they do. But documents are still actually coming out, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And we may have finally gotten the FBI documents today.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and it does I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>it's all of them yet. I haven't read them, so

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<v Speaker 2>I won't declare it, and I'm not going with other

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<v Speaker 2>people's pronouncements. So anyway, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Told you a couple of weeks ago that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody who has already figured out and he did it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the CIA and the Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, except if you listen to Judith Fary Baker,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, apparently last night somebody was cause, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you should have heard the three phone calls I took

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<v Speaker 2>on Ground zero the other night. Really, yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what it was. It was okay, First off, this one

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<v Speaker 2>lady started out really intelligent, making a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 2>until she started saying that Oswald was a hero and

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<v Speaker 2>he was there to save the president. And I went on,

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<v Speaker 2>knew where that was going then, you know, I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to be polite and I said, you know, you got

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<v Speaker 2>all these great things right at the front of your

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<v Speaker 2>presentation there. But she was freaking out because I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Angleton, because there is some new stuff on Angleton,

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<v Speaker 2>uh in the files, right, so James Jesus Angleton. That

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<v Speaker 2>makes some people rattle when they hear that. So she

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<v Speaker 2>called in because of that. The next one, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember which order it's in now, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>but the next one was, either did you hear e

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<v Speaker 2>Howard Hunts deathbed confession right right before he died? He

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<v Speaker 2>told the whole truth? And I went, okay, uh no,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, first of all, that wasn't a deathbed confession.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to know the circumstances under which that was recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of suspect things there. Interesting maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>but remember E Howard hunts disinformation agent. And again it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like I've got a lot of time to address

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<v Speaker 2>these questions rapid fire. The caller has plenty of time

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<v Speaker 2>to set them up, but me, I'm stuck with, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ten seconds to answer. So the third one was I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a guy online who confessed, and I said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>which which confession? You know? Because I Files and it

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<v Speaker 2>was Files, of course it was and Files and just

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<v Speaker 2>before he died. This is the guy just before he died.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in prison, and he told us before he

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<v Speaker 2>died that he did it, and it sounded pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 2>right to me, And I went, well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Second, I was going to say, yeah, he's still.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Second of all, he's out of prison. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so let me update you. Third of all, we know,

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<v Speaker 2>based on things that we've learned since James Files made

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<v Speaker 2>his initial declarations in like nineteen eighty eight or eighty

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<v Speaker 2>nine to certain people that a lot of his story

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't fit with known facts again, you know, so James

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<v Speaker 2>Files no good. But each of them had a twist

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<v Speaker 2>on one of those stories. And the lady doesn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed like that she got the information from Judy

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<v Speaker 2>Baker's narrative, so it was kind of funny. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was jud It was basically the Oswald as a hero

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<v Speaker 2>and we should recognize him as a marine and a hero.

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<v Speaker 2>I Howard Hunt spilled the beans already, and James Files

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<v Speaker 2>and then meanwhile Clyde Lewis adds in and I think

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<v Speaker 2>they switched bodies with JD. Tippett. Jfk and JD Tipett

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<v Speaker 2>looked alike, and they switched bodies. And that was Clyde Lewis,

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<v Speaker 2>the host of the show. Yeah he you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>asked me about that last time he had me on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, Clyde, come on, this is not right.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, you know, I know people make that

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<v Speaker 2>assertion online, but it looked for yourself, Clyde, It's not

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<v Speaker 2>the same guy. It's not look even if he somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>resembled him. We have an autopsy on JD. Tippet, We

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<v Speaker 2>have an autopsy on John F. Kennedy and even though

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<v Speaker 2>the one done on Kennedy is botched to hell. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not buying the switched body. And Tippitt's body was

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<v Speaker 2>not switched. Come on, have you seen the photos of it?

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<v Speaker 2>And these guys claim to have seen things and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because there's this guy my god, well I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even remember his name now, but it's some Native

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<v Speaker 2>American name guy out there who's pushing the uh swap

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<v Speaker 2>body with Tippet's thing. But anyway, you know JFK's death

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<v Speaker 2>was fake because they substituted JD. Tippitt's body for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, I'm glad you had an eventful week.

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<v Speaker 4>I had two, two very surprising occurrences this week. One

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<v Speaker 4>was on Monday and one was yesterday, so it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of bookended my week.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>The first one, you've heard the clips of Jasmine Crockett

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<v Speaker 4>the uh she's in the House of Representatives from Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>She was you know, cracking on Ted Cruz saying that

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<v Speaker 4>you know he oh wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, You're you're gonna tell me about the

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<v Speaker 2>lady that called Abbot hot wheels, that that lady. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well before you go there, one thing real fast before

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<v Speaker 2>you go there, I forgot to mention is Morley held

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<v Speaker 2>one of these You know, he holds a weekly thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been to one of those zoom calls

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<v Speaker 2>that he does for JFK fax. No? Okay, so we

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the one this week because last not

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<v Speaker 2>the one yesterday, but the one the week before. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know the the chairman of the UH of the

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<v Speaker 2>task force on the JFK stuff, Representative Luna from Florida. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she was on the call, by the way. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>uh Morley is going to testify on April first, no kidding,

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<v Speaker 2>April Fool's Day. He's going to testify in front of

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<v Speaker 2>her committee in Congress. So I just I forgot to

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<v Speaker 2>throw that piece in there as an update because I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't sure if you were aware of that. But since

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<v Speaker 2>you bring up representatives, I just figured I mentioned this

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<v Speaker 2>weird kind of almost run in with Luna there where

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<v Speaker 2>we were being allowed to ask a few questions. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now see now I was wondering what you meant by that,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was just thinking, before you even brought up Crockett,

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<v Speaker 2>here is his eventful week gonna involve, you know, something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, did he meet somebody?

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<v Speaker 4>I was hoping you did, but unfortunately it has to

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<v Speaker 4>do with Twitter or the platform formally known as Twitter and.

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<v Speaker 2>Now called x oh which I read, which I read

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<v Speaker 2>was sold? Did you did you read it was sold?

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<v Speaker 2>It was acquired by uh by that XI company, the

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<v Speaker 2>open Open Open Ai development Lab apparently acquired Twitter now supposedly.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really, well, I was just reading there's been a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of hate for Elon and on there anyway, Number

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<v Speaker 4>Andy Nigo, the reporter who was attacked and beaten by

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<v Speaker 4>the Anapha crowd up in was in Seattle or somewhere anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>He took him to court and won his court case,

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<v Speaker 3>and off okay.

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<v Speaker 4>He posted a clip, a video clip of Jasmine Crockett

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<v Speaker 4>talking about having to you know, having to beat ted

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<v Speaker 4>Cruz over the head. And he posted the video and

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<v Speaker 4>I commented on it, and I commented after reading all

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<v Speaker 4>of the comments, I put mine up there and it

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<v Speaker 4>said can we punch?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that was it?

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<v Speaker 4>You had to punch him hard, you know, that was

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<v Speaker 4>the statement she made. So I typed in there, can

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<v Speaker 4>we punch her now? And I no, sooner hit post

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<v Speaker 4>and as soon as it cleared, my account.

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<v Speaker 2>Was locked, he red flagged, she locked, and.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, you have the option to remove your

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I appealed it and I put in there. I

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<v Speaker 4>simply asked a question. I wasn't promoting violence. I just

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<v Speaker 4>asked a simple question, can we punch her now? And

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<v Speaker 4>they said it was going to be locked for a week. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>the very next afternoon they unlocked it, which surprised me.

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<v Speaker 3>The second occurrence was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, on job sites over the past oh hell, twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about LinkedIn. Are you talking about LinkedIn or

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<v Speaker 3>Site, an actual job site.

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<v Speaker 4>On the job sites over the past twenty years, I

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<v Speaker 4>have seen a thousand times an electric line get hit,

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<v Speaker 4>on roadways in that Never have I ever been under

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<v Speaker 4>one of those lines when it came down until yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>nine or ten cars up ahead of me, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>Image when the hurricane hit up there, and so we're

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<v Speaker 3>driving along something up in that line of traffic.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a tractor trailer, box truck, couple other cars,

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<v Speaker 4>and a dump truck right in front of me. All

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, the dump truck dives into the left

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<v Speaker 3>He's about one hundred feet in front of him, and when.

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<v Speaker 4>He got out of my field of vision, nine hundred

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<v Speaker 4>feet of power line is falling, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 4>was going to fall right on the truck. About seven

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<v Speaker 4>hundred foot of it fell behind the guardrail, but because

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<v Speaker 3>Run, it's probably a twelve hundred foot run a road.

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<v Speaker 4>Before you hit the curve up there, the power line

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<v Speaker 4>comes down behind the guardrail right as it comes across

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<v Speaker 4>the guardrail into my lane. I hit it at about

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<v Speaker 4>forty miles an hour, so I hit the thing. I

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<v Speaker 4>get the truck stop, and somebody up ahead when the

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was a pickup truck.

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<v Speaker 4>And caught it and pulled it along the guardrail and

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<v Speaker 4>it started arcing off. All of a sudden, the transformer blows.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I get the truck stop, I try to pull forward.

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<v Speaker 4>back up, I can only back up about five feet.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm hung on this wire. Can go forward, can't go back.

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<v Speaker 4>And I looked down on the screen on the dash

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<v Speaker 4>and it says service Brake system MAC speed sixty four

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<v Speaker 4>miles per hour. And I'm thinking, all right, something's it

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't arked off on the truck because my electronics are

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<v Speaker 4>still good and everything's working.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, truck still running, no problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't move. This guy pulls up beside me. He says,

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<v Speaker 4>are you okay? I said, yeah, I'm fine. I said,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm hung on this wire. Do you And we're

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<v Speaker 4>up in the mountains now, no phone signal whatsoever for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked him. I said, do you have any phone service?

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<v Speaker 3>He says, I think I got one bar I said,

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<v Speaker 3>can you call nine one one?

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<v Speaker 4>So he calls nine one one and the fire department

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<v Speaker 4>shows up. Volunteer fire department.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>One of them is about nine hundred foot in front

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<v Speaker 4>of me. He's stopping traffic. The other one's about three

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<v Speaker 4>hundred feet behind me where the other end of the

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<v Speaker 4>wire cracked the power pole and the transformer is just

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<v Speaker 4>hanging barely.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's getting ready to come down.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So there at that end, I finally you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>can't go anywhere, so I'm not getting out of the

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<v Speaker 4>truck because I don't know if the line is still live.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was just going to ask you, did you

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<v Speaker 2>consider don't get out of the truck because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I mean, I don't know if that truck

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna is it grounding the wire at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, or you're because I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>tires melt it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it was live, I think until the transformer blew.

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<v Speaker 4>But I didn't know it was being backfed from the

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<v Speaker 4>transformer behind me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just stayed in.

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<v Speaker 2>The truck, right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So then the.

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<v Speaker 4>Power guy shows up. I see him down the road

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<v Speaker 4>nine hundred feet. He cuts the line down there and

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<v Speaker 4>then comes up and pulls up next to me, and

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<v Speaker 4>I rolled down the window.

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<v Speaker 3>I go, I'd like to report an outage. It starts

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<v Speaker 3>and laugh again.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, let me go do something and I'll be

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<v Speaker 4>right back and untangle your truck. So he goes and

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<v Speaker 4>cuts the other end of it and comes back up

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<v Speaker 4>to the truck.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, all right, line's dead.

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<v Speaker 4>You can get out of the truck and take pictures

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<v Speaker 4>if you need to.

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<v Speaker 3>I get out.

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<v Speaker 4>This power line caught the front passenger corner of the trim,

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<v Speaker 4>right above the bumper and went into towards the radiator

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<v Speaker 4>behind the bumper.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently when I hit it, I drove over it.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's now under the wheelwell on the driver's side

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<v Speaker 4>and is running all the way to the back. Apparently

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<v Speaker 4>when I tried to back up, you know, the steel

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<v Speaker 4>cable that they wrap around the power line to support

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<v Speaker 4>it is wrapped around my axle and it's cut my

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<v Speaker 4>brake lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's spindled around your axle, and like, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I got that message about service your brake service,

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<v Speaker 3>but it kills me.

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<v Speaker 4>It says max speed sixty four miles an hour, and

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, yeah, until all the fluid runs out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, for the time being, I mean what, it

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<v Speaker 2>only cut the one So basically it just cut the

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<v Speaker 2>one brake. You probably have you know, three working brake pads, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so the one brake pad system locandarily.

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<v Speaker 4>So finally he gets everything. I'm out taking pictures, Like

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<v Speaker 4>he gets everything cut off in the highway patrolling Zoe's

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<v Speaker 4>up okay, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell, he had to give me a ride twenty miles

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<v Speaker 4>back to the hotel, so I was stuck without a truck. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>we had a guy that got admitted to the hospital

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of days ago. He's an elderly gentleman that

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<v Speaker 4>was having heart tames and he's had two heart attacks

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<v Speaker 4>and a stroke. He wasn't feeling well, so they admitted

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<v Speaker 4>him in the hospital. So luckily I have his.

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<v Speaker 3>Truck to use.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, be able to get home. But while I'm sitting there,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm at the hotel. I've got no ride. I'm starving.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to anything since breakfast, so I ordered a pizza.

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<v Speaker 4>My phone starts blowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Up from where? Wait, where did you order a pizza from?

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<v Speaker 2>Like a Domino's or was there a local place.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the only place that could deliver up there?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so I'm waiting for that, and then all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden, my phone starts blowing up.

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<v Speaker 3>I called my boss, told him what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, Okay, just go online, fill out the incident report,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, upload any pictures you got, and I'll let

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<v Speaker 4>our safety guy know. Well, a safety guy calls me.

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<v Speaker 4>He wants to make sure I'm okay, yeah, no problems.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to tell him what happened. Okay, we'll fill

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<v Speaker 4>this out online. Leut loads your pictures. Blah blah blah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah, he said, but just do it narrative to

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<v Speaker 4>me in an email on what happened. So I get

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<v Speaker 4>off the phone with him. I'm still waiting for the pizza.

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<v Speaker 4>About the time to pizza arrives, I get this health

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<v Speaker 4>company calls me up. We have some company that handles

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<v Speaker 4>accident reports from the health end of it. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>do we any injuries. Oh, you may have. This guy

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<v Speaker 4>starts in. Now, you may suffer some pain or some tension.

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<v Speaker 4>Later on, I said, well, I'm really just starting to

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<v Speaker 4>suffer some tension now. Well, you know you can always,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, because I'm trying to eat my pizza's here,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, let me finish my damn pizza and I'll

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<v Speaker 4>call you back.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, okay, I'll let you go. Well, I'm still trying.

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<v Speaker 4>It took me two and a half hours to eat

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<v Speaker 4>a pizza because of all the damn phone calls was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>They were right on it. Well, I was really getting kids.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's the problem with you know, modern communications because

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<v Speaker 2>in the old days, right, the insurance company would call

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<v Speaker 2>you the next day, you know, you had it Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you got into an accident anywhere past the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>the insurance companies, the adjusters, all those people would start

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<v Speaker 2>bring in your phone the next day, Right, you could

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<v Speaker 2>go home and eat at least.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's like within seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it's instant because their phones. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>they're working off a cell phone, and they get ping

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<v Speaker 2>a notice, get on this right away, case number, blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, blah blah, and it's in their system. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all this stuff. And this is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>a big argument about why we need AI to just

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<v Speaker 2>take this stuff over and handle these things and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But AI ain't gonna care about you finishing your pizza either.

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<v Speaker 2>I got bad news.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the health god calls me back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he says, well, you know, post accident, because policies

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<v Speaker 4>then are we're going to have to arrange for drug testing.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, fine, no problem, he says, well, he says,

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<v Speaker 4>technically we need to do a breath analysis too.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, look, dude, if.

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<v Speaker 4>The highway controlman thought I had been drinking, he'd already

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<v Speaker 4>have me downtown blowing a breath lizer, right, and if

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<v Speaker 4>failed a breathalyzer, I wouldn't be talking to you on

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<v Speaker 4>the phone right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, I didn't take that and consideration. I said, So,

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<v Speaker 3>what is it do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we need to get you to a lab, I said, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in the middle of the mountains.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a lab twenty five miles.

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<v Speaker 4>Around this place, so what do you Well, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to have to get on the phone, but everything is

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<v Speaker 4>closed right now. I said, Well, i'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to leave here in the morning after I

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<v Speaker 4>check out a hotel and I'm gonna drive home. Here's

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<v Speaker 4>the list of towns I'm going to be driving through

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<v Speaker 4>find a lab. So I'm finally I got off the

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<v Speaker 4>phone done with everything at a quarter to midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're real helpful to these guys, do I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>You're actually trying to help them along. And I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>haven't finished my damn pizza.

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<v Speaker 4>As matters hell, they're my boss. He finally called me

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<v Speaker 4>back about midnight. He said, uh, he said, I see,

424
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<v Speaker 4>you got the action or report done. He says, you

425
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<v Speaker 4>got your narrative in the email, and he says, I

426
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<v Speaker 4>don't think we need anything else from me. He says,

427
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<v Speaker 4>but I do have your truck for in the morning,

428
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<v Speaker 4>and it's at the dot yard.

429
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<v Speaker 6>No pro.

430
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<v Speaker 4>So I go in this morning, had to unload everything

431
00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:07.920
<v Speaker 4>out of my truck, put it in this other truck,

432
00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:13.759
<v Speaker 4>then drive back and find a lab in Wilkesboro, North Carolina.

433
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<v Speaker 4>Stopped pein a cup and then was able to finally

434
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<v Speaker 4>get home. And I just walked in the door about

435
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<v Speaker 4>quarter minutes of about fifteen minutes to showtime.

436
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<v Speaker 3>It's been a long day.

437
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<v Speaker 2>It has been a long day. This is all from

438
00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:31.519
<v Speaker 2>yesterday that is dead today. Wow. So you took down

439
00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:34.599
<v Speaker 2>a power line, you know, gave him your urine sample

440
00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and everything, and that was.

441
00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Clustered it up. I went on Google Earth and got

442
00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:39.160
<v Speaker 3>the distance.

443
00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:42.440
<v Speaker 4>It was about eleven hundred feet of power line came

444
00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:47.599
<v Speaker 4>down on top of it. That's an experience when you

445
00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:50.000
<v Speaker 4>see that line falling, and I mean, where do you go?

446
00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.240
<v Speaker 4>It happened in a matter of seconds, and my truck

447
00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:53.960
<v Speaker 4>was wrapped.

448
00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Up in it right this It's amazing. And we still

449
00:22:57.640 --> 00:22:58.880
<v Speaker 3>don't know who clipped the line.

450
00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:04.440
<v Speaker 2>That is amazing. I gotta tell you that that's that's

451
00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:07.519
<v Speaker 2>quite the harrowing story. I don't have anything good like

452
00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:08.279
<v Speaker 2>that to report.

453
00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:11.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, well, I was worried that it was gonna win.

454
00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:15.240
<v Speaker 4>Everything started arc and off. It's real dry up there.

455
00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:19.559
<v Speaker 4>There's a burning band in the state. There's three wildfires

456
00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 4>going on in Polk County right now. Two of them

457
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.039
<v Speaker 4>were started by down power lines.

458
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, falling power lines.

459
00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Surprised something that can't catch on fire.

460
00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Fallen power lines are often pointed to as the

461
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.279
<v Speaker 2>as the ignition point for these mass fires, right so,

462
00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.039
<v Speaker 2>and especially out in an area like that where you know,

463
00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:39.200
<v Speaker 2>there's just a lot of brush, there's a lot of

464
00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:41.960
<v Speaker 2>natural landscape. I mean that stuff's going to burn up

465
00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:43.920
<v Speaker 2>if it's dry, right So.

466
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, with these hillsides the way they are, with the

467
00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:48.880
<v Speaker 4>wind blowing, I mean, you can get out of control

468
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<v Speaker 4>in a matter of minutes.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Well, good thing you didn't start a massive fire and

470
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:54.720
<v Speaker 2>we're not reporting on like half of the state of

471
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:56.359
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina being burnt down.

472
00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Would I think I had both paperwork to fill out.

473
00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you definitely would, And they had probably more drug

474
00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:05.519
<v Speaker 2>tests just saying.

475
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my truck's in the shop. I think the damage

476
00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.720
<v Speaker 4>is minor. But it was funny when it hit.

477
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:12.640
<v Speaker 3>The front of the truck.

478
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:16.000
<v Speaker 4>You have all that plastic up there where the grill is,

479
00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:20.880
<v Speaker 4>and there's a gap that's maybe half an inch between

480
00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:25.000
<v Speaker 4>the bumper and the trim and the grill, and that

481
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:30.119
<v Speaker 4>wire got sucked right in that hole and it snatched me.

482
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.200
<v Speaker 3>You know the cables they use on aircraft carriers to

483
00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:33.039
<v Speaker 3>stop airplanes.

484
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've seen those.

485
00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's about the effect of hitting that cable. I

486
00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:39.119
<v Speaker 4>was doing maybe I don't know when I hit it.

487
00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:42.440
<v Speaker 4>I'd probably slowed down to about twenty miles an hour, okay,

488
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 4>but it just snatched my truck stop and it had

489
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:46.799
<v Speaker 4>forced it under there, so there was no way I

490
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:48.119
<v Speaker 4>could back off the line.

491
00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:50.200
<v Speaker 3>I was stuck the wire.

492
00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:52.480
<v Speaker 2>The way you're describing it. But it's spindled around the

493
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:54.279
<v Speaker 2>damn axle. I mean, what are you supposed to do?

494
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Nothing exactly, And it's that steel cable. The power line

495
00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:00.079
<v Speaker 4>is not what caused all the damage. It was that

496
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:02.359
<v Speaker 4>steal cable they wrap around it to suspend it.

497
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Right. That stuff you see almost like it looks like

498
00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 2>it's woven around it like uh like like like like

499
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the old ropes used to be where you had a

500
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.400
<v Speaker 2>bunch of little uh you know, a bunch of little

501
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:14.759
<v Speaker 2>ropes woven into the one big rope, like that kind

502
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>of thing, except it's steel. Right.

503
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was an eventful day. I want to get

504
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:21.240
<v Speaker 3>my truck back there.

505
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 4>They gave me this guy's dodge, and I'll tell you what,

506
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.359
<v Speaker 4>do not buy dogs pick up those crap?

507
00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, definitely. So look, we got looks like we've got

508
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy James on the line, so I'm gonna go to him,

509
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.039
<v Speaker 2>but I want to remind everybody. Look, you know, for

510
00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the next couple of weeks, we're gonna still try and

511
00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 2>do this, uh the old fashioned way, the way we've

512
00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>been doing it. But uh, come May, we're gonna have

513
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:44.839
<v Speaker 2>to change up the phone call system, it looks like.

514
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.079
<v Speaker 2>But we'll see what we can do about, you know,

515
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:50.119
<v Speaker 2>maintaining the phone number. For now, this number is the

516
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.480
<v Speaker 2>same at least all the way up until May first.

517
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<v Speaker 2>Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six.

518
00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:59.279
<v Speaker 2>But even when BP doesn't take down a massive piece

519
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>of power line, it's hard for him to get home

520
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:04.880
<v Speaker 2>from work on Fridays, So we might change to Wednesday

521
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 2>or some other day of the week for the call

522
00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>in show, just saying, but we're going to try and

523
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:13.160
<v Speaker 2>keep it going and hopefully you guys will encourage us

524
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:16.079
<v Speaker 2>by joining. And I tried to put out a Facebook post,

525
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.240
<v Speaker 2>but I've got like five friends on Facebook right now

526
00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>because they only let me make a couple of friends

527
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:24.160
<v Speaker 2>a day. And I've got a new profile. So don't

528
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:26.039
<v Speaker 2>anybody feel bad if I haven't caught up to you.

529
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I had to get my kids on there

530
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:29.519
<v Speaker 2>and a few others because I had to start a

531
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.400
<v Speaker 2>whole new Facebook profile. Okay, but I did post on there,

532
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>and I did post on the Twitter x because my

533
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>account wasn't locked this week, you know, regardless of whether

534
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:43.720
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, that that lady you're talking about, Crockett,

535
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:46.519
<v Speaker 2>she made a bunch of wild statements at this like

536
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.599
<v Speaker 2>award ceremony or some such in California.

537
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Human Rights Organization meeting.

538
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I thought it was for some awards for

539
00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 2>the human rights organization.

540
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't it.

541
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.680
<v Speaker 4>It may have been, and that's where some of her

542
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.720
<v Speaker 4>most Landis comments have been made. You know, it just

543
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.440
<v Speaker 4>amazes me how some people can get elected, especially in Texas.

544
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mentioned it last night on the

545
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>news show. I kind of cracked up at her calling

546
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Abbot hot wheels, because I'm not one of these people

547
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>that's over sensitive about picking on the handicapped app but

548
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 2>some people were being out of shape about it because,

549
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 2>in case you don't know, a Governor Abbit of the

550
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 2>State of Texas is in a wheelchair. And and she said,

551
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm gonna say up here, it

552
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>might be wild. She was talking like that on the stage,

553
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 2>and uh and and she just openly right away went

554
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.400
<v Speaker 2>after Governor Abbit and was and called him Governor hot Wheels.

555
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>So I just brought that up last night. I thought

556
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of comical.

557
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:46.240
<v Speaker 4>But she was originally from Missouri, and come to find out,

558
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, she before she started running. Oh, there's videotapes

559
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 4>of interviews with her totally different voice. She tries to

560
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 4>pull this I'm a person up the street and the hood.

561
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Come to find out, she went to one of the

562
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.960
<v Speaker 4>highest cost private high schools in.

563
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Missouri, Okay. So there's video floating around out there of

564
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>her going, oh, honey, child, and then there's video of

565
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>her floating around going hello, ladies and gentlemen, I would

566
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.839
<v Speaker 2>like to welcome you, which is kind of funny. You

567
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>know what that reminds me of is Hillary Clinton. Remember

568
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>how when Bill Clinton was running for president, she was

569
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, I'm a down home Southern girl, and

570
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then she gets in there and he

571
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 2>gets in there and whatever else, and then after a

572
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>little bit she's like, I am actually the Senator from

573
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>New York and and we'll not even speak with the

574
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>human cadence any longer. Definitely the chameleon effect there or

575
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 2>the what do they call that nowadays? Imposter syndrome where people,

576
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, don't realize or they don't know what they

577
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 2>are legitimately, so they act as if and I don't know,

578
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:56.480
<v Speaker 2>we used to have other names for that, and I

579
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:58.599
<v Speaker 2>can't think of it any longer, but people used to

580
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>act a certain way right to try.

581
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 4>And what's that she is in point affectations.

582
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Affectations in the speech like a weird thing I used

583
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 2>to see in Jersey a lot is. And by the way,

584
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>that trucker that was trying to run for governor in

585
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>New Jersey did drop out of the race. I thought

586
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.519
<v Speaker 2>he was an interesting candidate, but apparently he's going nowhere.

587
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.759
<v Speaker 2>And people are pissed at the Democrat in New Jersey.

588
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>So they're going to probably put in the Republican because

589
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what they do over there. Every time, you know,

590
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 2>they get a Republican governor in, they get pissed at him,

591
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 2>they bring in the Democrat. They get pissed at the Democrat,

592
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.079
<v Speaker 2>they bring in the Republican. That's why Jersey's a purple

593
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>state anyway, but really inconsistent about stuff over there. But

594
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 2>the funny thing in Jersey I used to see is

595
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>people accenting their ethnicity. White people mostly, like really heavily

596
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 2>focusing on like, all of a sudden, you get a

597
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 2>guy who's got a vowel at the end of his name,

598
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 2>he's suddenly more Italian when he's hanging around me, you know,

599
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 2>and like and other guys, because they would definitely think

600
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>my name was Irish, they were suddenly more Irish. You know.

601
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 2>They were almost doing the Lucky Charms commercials for me.

602
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Fricking I can't even do an Irish accent, but these

603
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.839
<v Speaker 2>guys would suddenly fall into it. And if you caught them,

604
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, in a mixed group, they wouldn't do that,

605
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, And I'd see black guys get more black.

606
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I'd see you know, different things happen like this. They

607
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.119
<v Speaker 2>would embrace their ethnicity or their alleged race one way

608
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 2>or another and try to accent it more. And I

609
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.039
<v Speaker 2>never knew what we called that, but I just used

610
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:39.079
<v Speaker 2>to always find that comical that people would try to

611
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 2>ingratiate themselves to others by, you know, adapting based on expectations.

612
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 2>And usually it was a broad generalization. And the funny

613
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>thing is it would be usually a bad impression. Like

614
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>the guys who would try to be more Italian would

615
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:59.200
<v Speaker 2>suddenly use Italian words that they weren't used to using,

616
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:02.960
<v Speaker 2>so they use them in correctly, you know, Like they

617
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>would say something like like a normal Italian speaking to

618
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>another Italian might say something like, yeah, it's some man

619
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I got talking about food, right, Well, these guys would

620
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>suddenly go into their full on Italian as best they could.

621
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 2>But then they'd go Manicotti and I go up, you

622
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>just blew it. You know, you're out a character, dude.

623
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's bad, you know. And some of them

624
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.440
<v Speaker 2>it was like, I'm just being a stereotype and I'm

625
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>trying to be a tough guy. And that's why I

626
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>used to laugh at Trump with his hands a certain way,

627
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>because he was really mimicking a lot of Italians with

628
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.839
<v Speaker 2>the hands certain ways. That hole bringing his hands together

629
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 2>and pulling them apart when he's making a point. That's

630
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.480
<v Speaker 2>a very Italian gesture. I mean, we talk with our

631
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 2>hands anyway. Every once in a while. You'll hear me

632
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 2>even bang into my own microphone while I'm talking. But

633
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>it's natural. I'm not doing it for anybody. Nobody can

634
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<v Speaker 2>see me doing it, all right, so I'm not doing

635
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<v Speaker 2>it to put on a show for anybody. It's just

636
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<v Speaker 2>and be beat. You've been around me in person for

637
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<v Speaker 2>days in a row, you know I talk with my hands, right,

638
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<v Speaker 2>A lot.

639
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 3>Of people do.

640
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 4>I had an aunt and they used to kid her,

641
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<v Speaker 4>so you know if they cut off her hands, he

642
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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be able to talk.

643
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'll be half asleep and waving my

644
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>hands around while I'm talking. It might not be as

645
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<v Speaker 2>good or as intense when I'm making a point or whatever,

646
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>but you know, both hands are not necessarily even up.

647
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:26.319
<v Speaker 2>If I'm half asleep, I might be waving the right hand,

648
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, here and there like because my hands are

649
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>even half asleep at the time. Right. Anyway, it is

650
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>what it is like I said, we got Jimmy James

651
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>on hold, and I'm hoping more people will call in

652
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six.

653
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>But I say, before you and I have more conversations,

654
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<v Speaker 2>we get to hear from Jimmy. And we're definitely gonna

655
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<v Speaker 2>have to hear from Jimmy on the Uncle Show tonight

656
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 2>because we're gonna finally see where his bet actually came down.

657
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Aaron sent me the recorded excerpt from the Uncle Show

658
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>that night when we did the Super Bowl bets, because

659
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy seems that they can on one side of the

660
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>bed as opposed to the other. But we're gonna everybody's

661
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to wait for eleven o'clock to get there.

662
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll play the clip and stuff and let Aaron handle

663
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 2>it on that show with Uncle. Well actually I let

664
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Uncle handle it and Aaron will help him. But that's

665
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.599
<v Speaker 2>where that's going. But meantime, let's see what else Jimmy

666
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>James has on his mind. Jimmy, I gotta say, you know,

667
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 2>when they put me take me off hold on ground zero,

668
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 2>it's even weirder than anything I could possibly do. They

669
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 2>popped me off and on hold when I'm on a phone.

670
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like insane. They give me ten seconds to answer stuff.

671
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Did you happen to hear that show? By the way, Jimmy, yes,

672
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 2>you heard the three questions. I just I don't know

673
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.559
<v Speaker 2>if you heard me describe it to be Pete. But basically,

674
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I had the lady who was like half right, and

675
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 2>then she went into Judy Baker territory without mentioning Judy.

676
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 2>And I had the e Howard Hunt already spilled the

677
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 2>beans guy, and then I had the Jimmy Files confessed guy,

678
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 2>and and of course Clyde followed it up with JD.

679
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Tippet's Botty was switched with JFK. And I'm like, uh,

680
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean literally, if there was a video on that,

681
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 2>you would have seen my head in my hands. But anyway,

682
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 2>this might not even be what's on your mind this week?

683
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead? What's on your mind?

684
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I have to correct myself. Apparently the one I heard

685
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:23.079
<v Speaker 1>is a different show than that one.

686
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, but what did you hear?

687
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 1>It's just a different episode with some different nuts.

688
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, hey, that happens too, So what's on your

689
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>mind this week? Brother? Whatever?

690
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it wasn't this, it was you on a show

691
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>from a couple of weeks ago.

692
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, god knows what I was talking about. Then, yeah, go.

693
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Ahead, you are around with.

694
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Nature boy, Go ahead.

695
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, I was gonna ask Jimmy, have you got a

696
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:58.039
<v Speaker 3>new phone?

697
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 1>He used to do?

698
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, that explains it.

699
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he sounds a lot better this week, and then

700
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:11.559
<v Speaker 2>he has it. Anyway, Jimmy, what's on your mind?

701
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 3>You know?

702
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I think, well, different things, different things, different things. One

703
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 1>thing I'm on mine is representative Luna. Uh trap set Morley,

704
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 1>he said three things that we're just playing incorrect even

705
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:33.639
<v Speaker 1>on his phone call.

706
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Come on, man, you're talking about on the on the

707
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about on that zoom call? Were you were

708
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 2>you on there?

709
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

710
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've seen I was on there, but I've seen it.

711
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay. No, I don't necessarily agree with Morley on all

712
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>of his points either, by the way. Uh, I agree

713
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 2>that there is new information about Angleton in there, and

714
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 2>he never saw his unredacted testimony before where he clearly lied.

715
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>But you know, going beyond that, with the rest of

716
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 2>this stuff Morley's talking about, I'm not so sure. You know,

717
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not convinced as he is. Maybe what are your thoughts.

718
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, why is he even talking about Angleton at this point?

719
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Has everyone already in one year forgotten who the hell

720
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Solely is? Well, we need major Newman on here.

721
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Please get Major Newman on here. I need I would

722
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>really like to be able to talk to the man.

723
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Look, I have tried to book Newman. I'm telling you now,

724
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 2>I've tried to book Newman and a couple of things

725
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 2>are weird about him right now. First of all, he

726
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>hasn't responded to my direct messages. And secondly, somebody is

727
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 2>impersonating John Newman online and I don't know who that

728
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.599
<v Speaker 2>person is, but they're apparently going around trying to grift

729
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.920
<v Speaker 2>some money off of people in stuff up with his

730
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 2>name on social media. So he uh, he did say

731
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago he was going to abandon Facebook,

732
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's gone further now. Somebody is like

733
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:18.039
<v Speaker 2>literally trying to contact other JFK researchers and convince them

734
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:22.159
<v Speaker 2>to send him money. And it's under John Newman's you know,

735
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 2>name and face and stuff on different social media platforms.

736
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what's going on there. I'm just

737
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>telling you that this is one of the weird obstacles.

738
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I've had to try and book them in, but go ahead.

739
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, nonetheless less representative lunas she seems to be

740
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:52.800
<v Speaker 1>uh earnest, and I've liked everything I've heard or read

741
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 1>about her. I have more Confidt's in her than anyone

742
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 1>in the House currently. Bad the way, bpe bad luck.

743
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>That clown Tom Cotton was speaking recommended to Trump not

744
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to recommend to release the JFA documents. And not only

745
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 1>that him in this Waltz character in the White House,

746
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and their aid that added that clown to that call.

747
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say they have connections. So Tom Cotton is.

748
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 3>Is uh reason for not wanting to release this stuff?

749
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Tom Cotton's reasoning, I don't know. He was one of

750
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 2>the voices though that was against it. Now I caution

751
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.760
<v Speaker 2>you with Luna about this, uh Jimmy James, and that

752
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:56.519
<v Speaker 2>is remember that even if she is enthusiastic about this,

753
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad to see that, really I am. And

754
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.559
<v Speaker 2>she's even going to have morally testify in front of

755
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 2>her committee, her task force. Uh specifically, I think you

756
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 2>know she's also responsible for that UFO fiasco a couple

757
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 2>of years ago. That was another committee that she was

758
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>a big part of And you remember the guy who

759
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.119
<v Speaker 2>came out and said, you know, we have captured aliens

760
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:23.400
<v Speaker 2>and all that in front of Congress.

761
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Was the was this the incident? Word was that three

762
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>guys in uniform that came in and did this.

763
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:34.440
<v Speaker 2>There was a couple of guys in uniform, but the

764
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 2>guy who made the most brash statements was not a

765
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 2>military guy.

766
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

767
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 2>The military guys came out and pretty much did you

768
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:43.559
<v Speaker 2>know what they were supposed to do, which is, yeah,

769
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:47.119
<v Speaker 2>I filmed uh you know this odd object near my plane,

770
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 2>this and that, like the pilots and all that. But no,

771
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>this guy said he had worked for various agencies, and

772
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>apparently he did, but he was making all kinds of

773
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.599
<v Speaker 2>wild statements that nobody could back up. And even when

774
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.880
<v Speaker 2>he said he had other people that could back up,

775
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, certain things that he witnessed about reverse engineering,

776
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 2>alien technology and all these, you know, all the stuff

777
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that people in UFOLand wanted to hear for a long time.

778
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, it didn't turn out so well. The hearings

779
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of went off the rails, and you know, we

780
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 2>had a bit of national press coverage over it, but

781
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 2>it didn't really help anything. It was just the one

782
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.800
<v Speaker 2>guy's wild claims, you know what I mean. So she

783
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:31.599
<v Speaker 2>was involved in that whole thing that wound up creating

784
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that one agency for reporting. But yeah, go ahead.

785
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the one thing I'm worried about. Just from

786
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.119
<v Speaker 1>hearing her on that call, I could tell that, while interested,

787
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 1>she's not super knowledgeable about the assassination or the Cold War,

788
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>because why would she be right?

789
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, potentially if the wrong person gets in her ear,

790
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we could be looking at I mean, it's

791
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 2>great to have morally go and testify whether I think

792
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 2>everything he's saying is correct or not. At least he

793
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 2>knows the material. But I mean I could see somebody

794
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 2>potentially getting in her ear and trying to get her

795
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.639
<v Speaker 2>to get Judy Baker up there or something, you know.

796
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that could happen. I'm just saying, and I

797
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 2>would be really upset about that. But legitimacy, as far

798
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>as people in Trump's orbit regarding their interest in this case,

799
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 2>at least they're interested. That's a good thing. Even you know.

800
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Billy Celestie's grandson had met with Trump at a certain point,

801
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and he said he played the tape for Trump himself.

802
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know, I don't know where that went,

803
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>if it helped, if Trump understood what he was hearing,

804
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I have no clue, but I'm keeping an open mind

805
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.559
<v Speaker 2>about it and hoping that enthusiasm can somehow be steered

806
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 2>into accomplishing something, because thus far, let's get real, the

807
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 2>CIA has not produced anything new. Despite the executive orders

808
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>directive to all agencies to you know, release new stuff

809
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:12.599
<v Speaker 2>and everything else, the CIA and various other agencies are

810
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:17.159
<v Speaker 2>not in full compliance with the JFK records collection law,

811
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 2>and they are not producing new material as per the

812
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:25.760
<v Speaker 2>executive order from Trump they did allow. And the recent

813
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>document dump finally lets us get at the stuff that

814
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 2>we should have seen in twenty seventeen. But that's as

815
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 2>far as we've gotten here progress wise, although in the

816
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 2>past twenty four hours, to my knowledge, we might have

817
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 2>seen the release of those FBI documents, but I don't

818
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 2>know if they're new, if their copies of if their

819
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:48.800
<v Speaker 2>origin is from somewhere else and it's just the FBI's copy.

820
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because I haven't been able to go

821
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 2>through the new ones yet that were just dropped. So,

822
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, more to come apparently, and more work will

823
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 2>be done as the day's go oh bye. But are

824
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 2>we going to lose the public's interest in the meantime

825
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>is my question? And that was that problem with that

826
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Cory guy on that uh Union of the Unwanted call

827
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:12.960
<v Speaker 2>where he's going into his whole thing about why happened

828
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 2>to know David Ferry was on the grassy hole and

829
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 2>and I went in, Jesus Christ, dude, we were here

830
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to discuss how we're going to get the general public

831
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 2>to understand what's happening here. Uh, And they steered the

832
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.039
<v Speaker 2>conversation back into it. But Larry and myself, Larry Hancock

833
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and me both left that that particular podcast early because

834
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 2>there was no point.

835
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Had a good uh equipped when that guy stirred that

836
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<v Speaker 1>I liked one of Morley said are you ever wrong?

837
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Are you ever wrong about anything? Corey? I like that.

838
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 2>That was pretty funny because everybody like fell silent at

839
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>that point. So no, Morley handled him well. And again

840
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I've got a contentious sort of relationship with Morley, you know,

841
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:05.679
<v Speaker 2>so it's not like I'm the biggest fan of Jefferson Morley,

842
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 2>but respect where respectors do. He handled that well, and

843
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.079
<v Speaker 2>he's been good about getting the word out. He's gone

844
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:17.480
<v Speaker 2>on everybody's show. Even did Bill O'Reilly show recently? Did

845
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 2>you see that one?

846
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't even know Bill O'Reilly had a show.

847
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. Ever since he was dismissing.

848
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I like, all right, I mean I disagree with his

849
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>CIA promise ideas same as well as they say. I

850
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 1>guess most researchers believe the CIA was behind it.

851
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not one of them. I would say that

852
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 2>complicity is a certainty, and there was a time when

853
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I thought the CIA might be responsible. But are they complicit?

854
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I would say absolutely, and they're definitely part of the

855
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 2>cover up ever after. But as far as you know

856
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.760
<v Speaker 2>the actual operation, No, I got disagreements there. And you

857
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.280
<v Speaker 2>met you asked, why is it we're still talking about

858
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 2>freaking Angleton. Well, you know, they finally cleared the redactions

859
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.159
<v Speaker 2>on his testimony. They finally cleared the redactions on a

860
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:24.440
<v Speaker 2>few other things that have to do with him, And

861
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 2>we now know that sitting on Angleton's desk for some

862
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 2>reason a week before the assassination is Lee Harvey Oswalt's

863
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 2>file that the CIA had that they denied they had

864
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>for many years Oswald's file is literally sitting on his

865
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.719
<v Speaker 2>desk a week before the assassination. Kind of strange, especially

866
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>when he's the counterintelligence guy and also in charge of

867
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 2>special investigations. Okay, so you know, weird things going on there,

868
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot more to the Angleton story, much

869
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:58.760
<v Speaker 2>like there's a lot more to the Hoover story when

870
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you consider that, you know, he probably had ten twenty

871
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.320
<v Speaker 2>times the files that Hoover had in his private files.

872
00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Angleton had files big enough to fill up a whole room.

873
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.719
<v Speaker 2>You know that they dragged away and nobody's ever known

874
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:17.559
<v Speaker 2>the disposition of those things. So you know there's something

875
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 2>to be said there. And the guy's a significant figure

876
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:22.320
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to a lot of things that happened,

877
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 2>So he's somebody worthy of talking about. But does he

878
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.280
<v Speaker 2>get us to the solution on the Kennedy assassination? That is?

879
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:33.239
<v Speaker 2>What do they say? Another kettle of fish? Right? So

880
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, what are your thoughts there?

881
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 3>Well?

882
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 7>I was going to say about see here she Professor

883
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:51.880
<v Speaker 7>Joe Mellan would disagree with.

884
00:46:53.559 --> 00:47:02.599
<v Speaker 1>I think his characterization in her books Faustian bargains. I

885
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 1>believe it is. She makes it pretty clear. That is

886
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Kennedy himself, like a month before, who pretty much

887
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>took Oswald off of the special skirt in the lists.

888
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Do you recall that?

889
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, but see him not being on that list

890
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>for alerts is one thing. The other thing is that

891
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.280
<v Speaker 2>he was being tracked by you know, one of the

892
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:31.920
<v Speaker 2>programs where they were opening people's mail and tracking their

893
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.719
<v Speaker 2>mail and also keeping track of their most recent you know,

894
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:39.159
<v Speaker 2>home addresses and all that stuff through HT lingual.

895
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Correct me if I'm wrong, But didn't doctor Newman say

896
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that the guy though Solei's the guy that ran that

897
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:48.559
<v Speaker 1>whole program and he was a Soviet mole.

898
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's.

899
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 1>My memory that could be.

900
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.840
<v Speaker 2>But you know, Newman in recent writing has gone into

901
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:58.960
<v Speaker 2>this whole, you know, very deep on the mole deal.

902
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:03.320
<v Speaker 2>And look, I don't totally discount it, but I don't

903
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.679
<v Speaker 2>know exactly how much evidence he has to back it

904
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:09.320
<v Speaker 2>all up because I haven't read that that most recent

905
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 2>release is still I haven't actually acquired that book, but

906
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've read some of the things he said online,

907
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:21.480
<v Speaker 2>and I've listened to some of his interviews, and what

908
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.599
<v Speaker 2>can I say? You know, Newman's going in a direction

909
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Morley's going in a direction, and the direction I'd like

910
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 2>to see us all go in is finally giving people

911
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:36.559
<v Speaker 2>new evidence on what we all know has not been

912
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.599
<v Speaker 2>given to us in full up to this point. You know,

913
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:44.199
<v Speaker 2>the official explanation is lacking. The conspiracy culture, so to speak,

914
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:49.199
<v Speaker 2>has not quite grown or cultivated the correct answer yet.

915
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.800
<v Speaker 2>And I would like to see somebody come out with

916
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 2>a much more solid theory based on you know, some

917
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>of the submergent evidence. It's not going to be all

918
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:00.960
<v Speaker 2>in the government files though. I was telling Clyde Lewis

919
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the other night, you know, if you're waiting for the

920
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:06.760
<v Speaker 2>smoking gun documents, stop waiting. You know, it's not coming

921
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 2>out of the government. That's not going to happen.

922
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

923
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 2>But we are learning things about different parts of history,

924
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.280
<v Speaker 2>different interactions, what's really going on.

925
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

926
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Some people are very much focusing on the Israeli angle again. Uh,

927
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.199
<v Speaker 2>you know which I clearly scoff at in general, this

928
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:28.280
<v Speaker 2>idea that you know, the Masade is responsible, Because ask

929
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 2>that guy who says that if he thinks the Masade

930
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 2>is responsible for other things, and he'll give you a

931
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:35.960
<v Speaker 2>long list usually, you know what I mean, Like they're

932
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 2>running the world according to these guys. So everything happened

933
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 2>right right, Which look, I'm not a again not a

934
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.559
<v Speaker 2>supporter of Israel either, but you can't pin everything on

935
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 2>the state of Israel.

936
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

937
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:53.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like people that want to pin this

938
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 2>on hw Bush too. If we would have given Clyde

939
00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Lewis about ten more minutes, he was probably going to

940
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 2>get into that, you know, after his JD. Tippetts swap

941
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.719
<v Speaker 2>bodies with Kennedy thing, he was going to go there,

942
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.639
<v Speaker 2>you know about about h w And oh he was

943
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 2>a daily plaster. Oh my god, I'm getting a headache

944
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.320
<v Speaker 2>already just thinking about it. But there's a lot more.

945
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Work to be another another bizarre. It was just interesting

946
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that like, uh, I listened to Dershwitz his dirsh cast

947
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.679
<v Speaker 1>and uh he was a law law clerk during the

948
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:35.519
<v Speaker 1>assassination of fact. He's the one that went in and

949
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 1>alerted Chief Justice Warren and all the other justices that

950
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Kennedy had just been shot. And they got him to

951
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>go get his little portable TV because he had the

952
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:53.280
<v Speaker 1>only TV in the justice building, right because he the

953
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.880
<v Speaker 1>on the reason he had it was because he liked

954
00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:00.159
<v Speaker 1>to watch baseball games. Anyways, they went and watched it,

955
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and later on he was actually offered a position as

956
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a warren on the Warrant Commission, as a staff member,

957
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a lot of law clerks. Well, the

958
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Warrant Commission was made up of law clerks from the

959
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court and Pallid Court and all that.

960
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, for instance, Arlen Spector was a junior counselor. He

961
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 2>was just a lawyer at that time, and he was

962
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.800
<v Speaker 2>a junior counselor meant to be a part of a

963
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:34.119
<v Speaker 2>team of two. Right, Specter becomes a very significant figure,

964
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 2>but he was not a major figure at the time

965
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:37.199
<v Speaker 2>of the Warran commission go ahead.

966
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, what I find interesting is that, and he said

967
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>he was interested in the gig. But then the justice

968
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that he worked for said, don't do it ours, it's

969
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:58.079
<v Speaker 1>going to be it's already. They aren't going to search

970
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>for the truth. They're going to who'd come to a

971
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 1>foregone conclusion to avoid war with the Soviets. Don't get

972
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:11.000
<v Speaker 1>into this, don't get involved. And of course, as soon

973
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:16.679
<v Speaker 1>as soon as he learned that they weren't going to

974
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 1>actually be allowed to investigate the thing, he didn't get involved.

975
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:25.559
<v Speaker 1>But he said some people that he was working with

976
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.679
<v Speaker 1>did get involved, and after that they were just done

977
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>with the law. Love of them were just just disillusioned.

978
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he knew that the guy that ended

979
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>up being a judge, Judge Bert judge anyways, sorry as

980
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 1>interrupting someone, No.

981
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember Bert. His first name was Bert though, right, man,

982
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember his last name now, But yeah, he

983
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:57.760
<v Speaker 2>wound up being a judge. Yah, yeah, good.

984
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he got he have fire kind of early on, right,

985
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 1>because he rubbed the yeah that was authorities the wrong.

986
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Well I thought he had pissed off Rankin, who was

987
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:14.559
<v Speaker 2>the chief counsel but either way it doesn't matter. Yeah,

988
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:16.239
<v Speaker 2>he got out of there pretty quick, but he had

989
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:20.320
<v Speaker 2>some interesting things to say afterwards. And yeah, there was

990
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.039
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people. I mean, don't forget the guy

991
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.360
<v Speaker 2>who was supposed to be the senior counselor as part

992
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:28.280
<v Speaker 2>of the team with Spector shows up once and once

993
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.920
<v Speaker 2>he got his marching orders and his paperwork, he never

994
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 2>went back. The guy never even appeared again, the supposed

995
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.719
<v Speaker 2>senior counselor on that team, So Spector worked by himself.

996
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, I can't His name was Frank something or other.

997
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it was from New York. But I mean,

998
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't even hardly remember the guy's name because he

999
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.480
<v Speaker 2>showed up once and then never went back because they

1000
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:54.199
<v Speaker 2>knew that they already had their conclusion in hand. I mean,

1001
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 2>we've seen the Executive Session since, but I guarantee there

1002
00:53:58.159 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of stuff going on. And I believe

1003
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Dershowitz when it comes to this, is that it was

1004
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.840
<v Speaker 2>probably already part of the chatter generally speaking in DC

1005
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and among people in the know that like, look, we're

1006
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to sort of, you know, bottle this up

1007
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.159
<v Speaker 2>quickly because if we don't, people are going to be screaming.

1008
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 2>We got to go after the Soviets. After all, Oswald

1009
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.559
<v Speaker 2>tried to defect, and after all, you know, people in

1010
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 2>the know, hush, hush, he was in Mexico City trying

1011
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:27.440
<v Speaker 2>to go to Cuba, you know what I mean. So

1012
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.719
<v Speaker 2>those things traveled around people say, oh, Johnson made that up.

1013
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:33.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Johnson made it up. I think he

1014
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:36.320
<v Speaker 2>picked it up from the chatter that was already all

1015
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.920
<v Speaker 2>around DC. But you know, again, people argue with me

1016
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.480
<v Speaker 2>about that, and what can I say? You know, because

1017
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>there is tapes of Johnson saying it but I promise

1018
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.519
<v Speaker 2>you he didn't originate that idea even and neither did

1019
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:50.920
<v Speaker 2>any of his counsel. Tell you, what we're gonna do,

1020
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 2>be Pete, is take a little break here. I'm gonna

1021
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:56.599
<v Speaker 2>put Jimmy on hold, and what we'll do is see

1022
00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:58.599
<v Speaker 2>if anybody else wants to call in and join us.

1023
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:00.119
<v Speaker 2>How much of the show have we killed or read?

1024
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Looks like we're almost at one hour, So time for

1025
00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:06.159
<v Speaker 2>a break, for sure, and I urge you to stay

1026
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.199
<v Speaker 2>with us. Call in three one nine five two seven

1027
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.320
<v Speaker 2>five zero one six. That's the number to call three

1028
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.760
<v Speaker 2>one nine five two seven five zero one six. We'll

1029
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:18.480
<v Speaker 2>keep it that way till the beginning of May anyway,

1030
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:21.960
<v Speaker 2>And uh, we're we're gonna do this on Friday night tonight,

1031
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.000
<v Speaker 2>obviously we're doing it. Uh next week? Do you think

1032
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:26.159
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do it on Friday again?

1033
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Bpte, Well, I am will do what Dad is to

1034
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.239
<v Speaker 3>make it back. It just depends on the schedule here.

1035
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:38.239
<v Speaker 4>Friday lately it's either we get snowed out or we've

1036
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:40.639
<v Speaker 4>got a threat of snow and so they just go

1037
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 4>ahead and.

1038
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Cancel the cruise on Friday.

1039
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 4>So we'll see what this week has in a store,

1040
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:48.679
<v Speaker 4>but I'm trying. The problem is getting out of there

1041
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:50.599
<v Speaker 4>early enough to be able to make it back here.

1042
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 4>So someone what we can do is, if nothing else,

1043
00:55:55.159 --> 00:55:57.639
<v Speaker 4>if I'm in the middle of traveling, I can stop.

1044
00:55:57.480 --> 00:55:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Do the show and then continue traveling once.

1045
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, either that or you could actually call in. I

1046
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:06.079
<v Speaker 2>could leave you on the call line and that way

1047
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:08.239
<v Speaker 2>you could just kind of leave your if you're because

1048
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:10.320
<v Speaker 2>you'll be traveling alone in the truck, right.

1049
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I'd use Skype on my phone anyway, So yeah,

1050
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:17.519
<v Speaker 4>just you know, on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but let's just say it's a better connection though

1052
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:23.280
<v Speaker 2>to use your cell phone. Maybe you could always call

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00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:25.199
<v Speaker 2>in and I'll just keep you on the line there

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00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:26.320
<v Speaker 2>to co host if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we'll figure something.

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00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:31.199
<v Speaker 2>We'll figure something out. But but if you miss another

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00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 2>show because you can't make it back, we we might

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00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:37.159
<v Speaker 2>consider moving it to another day. I'm just telling you.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought about that, but you usually have you usually

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00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.840
<v Speaker 4>have Mike and somebody on Wednesdays.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, but we'll just change it and then if

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00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Friday is open for them. You know, that changes the

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00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.360
<v Speaker 2>dynamic too, because that might make it easier for I

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00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:54.880
<v Speaker 2>know it makes it easier for Mike. I'm not sure

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00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 2>about Larry. I know he was having trouble with Thursdays

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00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:03.000
<v Speaker 2>per a bit. So if we take Wednesday, maybe I

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00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:05.639
<v Speaker 2>move Larry to Tuesday, or I move Larry to Friday.

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00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 2>And Mike only wants to come on once a month,

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00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:11.400
<v Speaker 2>so between the two of them, I'm sure I can

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00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:13.519
<v Speaker 2>find spots. You know, if it's better for us to

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00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:14.599
<v Speaker 2>do this regularly.

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00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:16.760
<v Speaker 4>If we move itto Wednesday, there's no problem. I can

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00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:18.679
<v Speaker 4>do it from a hotel room.

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00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:20.639
<v Speaker 2>So I'll tell you what. Then we'll look at that.

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00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll move it to Wednesday, but for now we're

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00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:26.760
<v Speaker 2>leaving it on Fridays, and hopefully you guys will join

1077
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:29.239
<v Speaker 2>us on Fridays. But it might be a better change

1078
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:32.519
<v Speaker 2>for people calling in too, so we'll talk about it,

1079
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:36.039
<v Speaker 2>you and me off air. But in the meantime, stick around.

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00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:38.599
<v Speaker 2>We still got almost an hour left of this show

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00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 2>until the Age of Transitions begins at eleven pm, and

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00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 2>then of course at no excuse me a ten pm Eastern.

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00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Then at eleven pm Eastern, we have Uncle the podcast,

1084
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and we're finally going to get the resolution on the

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00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl bets tonight live here on the Ocehellandio.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you like history, real history that you were never

1087
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 8>taught in schools? Why the Vietnam War Nuclear Bombs in

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00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:12.679
<v Speaker 8>Nation Building in Southeast Asia by author Mike Swanson, with

1089
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:17.199
<v Speaker 8>new documentation never seen before that'll open your eyes to

1090
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:20.800
<v Speaker 8>events that led up to this. Why the Vietnam War

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00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 8>Nuclear Bombs in Nation Building in Southeast Asia nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 8>five through nineteen sixty one. Get your copy today at

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00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 8>Amazon dot com. Why the Vietnam War by author Mike Swanson.

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<v Speaker 9>Uncle, do you remember that time when Benjamin Fulford said

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00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:54.840
<v Speaker 9>that an Asian secret society was going to dispatch ninja's

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00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:56.320
<v Speaker 9>to take down the Illuminati?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>That's interesting, Yeah in the quatroon.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, did that ever work out too good?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:06.840
<v Speaker 9>It didn't, did it? But here on Ocelly dot Com

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00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:09.320
<v Speaker 9>Radio Network things work out a bit better, don't.

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00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 2>They much better? Much?

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, it's clear and understanding about the programs. The

1105
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:21.440
<v Speaker 10>programs much clearer, getting live people into it. They really

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00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:25.480
<v Speaker 10>have a good conversation going much better, much better scene.

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<v Speaker 9>I say, forget Benjamin Fulford and his ninches and listen

1108
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:31.280
<v Speaker 9>to the Ocelly dot Com Radio Network.

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00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:34.920
<v Speaker 11>I agree, it's straight to the point straight talk and

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00:59:35.000 --> 01:01:45.119
<v Speaker 11>I like that idea Olly dot com.

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00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:43.920
<v Speaker 5>M The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great

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01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.280
<v Speaker 5>national transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency

1113
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:50.400
<v Speaker 5>in the context of the times and reveals never before

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01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:54.440
<v Speaker 5>published information about the Cuban missile crisis. President Kennedy would

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01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.920
<v Speaker 5>not have been assassinated if he had been president two

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01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:00.599
<v Speaker 5>hundred years ago. His assassination took place in the context

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<v Speaker 5>of the Cold War and the rise of the national

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01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:06.159
<v Speaker 5>security state. Before World War II, the United States was

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01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:09.360
<v Speaker 5>a continental republic. In the decade that followed, it became

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<v Speaker 5>an imperial superpower. Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only

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01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 5>wanted to invade Cuba, but knew that there were short

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01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:19.000
<v Speaker 5>range missiles on the island arn't with nuclear warheads that

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01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 5>they could not destroy because they were on mobile launchers.

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<v Speaker 5>Their invasion could have led to a Third World War,

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<v Speaker 5>and they wanted to go to war anyway. The War

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<v Speaker 5>State by Michael Swanson reveals why and will show you

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01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:34.480
<v Speaker 5>what President Kennedy was up against. For more information, The

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<v Speaker 5>Warstate dot com oh Chili dot.

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<v Speaker 6>Com in denial secret wars with air strikes and tanks

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<v Speaker 6>by Larry Hancock. Secret wars became a staple of US

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01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:56.320
<v Speaker 6>covert operations and are still happening today. Larry Hancock's book

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01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 6>In Denial rips the cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Off many of them, using new files.

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<v Speaker 12>It exposes things about the Bay of Pigs that no

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01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:05.960
<v Speaker 12>one has ever written about before. It shows why it

1136
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.880
<v Speaker 12>really failed and why the United States did not learn

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01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:11.920
<v Speaker 12>from it. It also shows why other countries today are

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01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:15.639
<v Speaker 12>doing secret operations with more success. This is the book

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01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:19.119
<v Speaker 12>that puts what some want to deny into the light.

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<v Speaker 12>In Denial, secret wars with air strikes and tanks Larryhncock.

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01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 12>For more information, go to Larry hyphen Handcock dot com.

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01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Pick up your copy of.

1143
01:02:30.719 --> 01:03:14.360
<v Speaker 12>In Denial at Amazon dot com in digital or physical form.

1144
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.440
<v Speaker 8>And revelation through conversation.

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01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Get ready for the second segment of the O'Kelly Effect.

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01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Live here on a Friday night, And it is what

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01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:36.920
<v Speaker 2>it is. It was, what it was, It's going to

1148
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:38.920
<v Speaker 2>be what it's going to be. But you can change

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01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:42.280
<v Speaker 2>all that call in three one nine, five two seven

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01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:45.400
<v Speaker 2>five zero one six. We might change the day of

1151
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the week that we do this show, but that means

1152
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll have to replace it with something on a Friday,

1153
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.599
<v Speaker 2>and uh, we'll regularly make sure that we have something

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01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:58.320
<v Speaker 2>going there. I've been trying to uptick the the production

1155
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.400
<v Speaker 2>and the rate of production lately on the podcast. Hopefully

1156
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:04.639
<v Speaker 2>you guys have noticed, uh, and we're getting things out there.

1157
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Also ten o'clock tonight, we'll be listening to the Age

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01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:11.199
<v Speaker 2>of Transitions eleven pm Eastern we'll start uncle the podcast,

1159
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:14.440
<v Speaker 2>but we'll be catching up on all the Super Bowl

1160
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:18.840
<v Speaker 2>bets and all that good stuff at eleven pm tonight

1161
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:23.119
<v Speaker 2>and even play a tape back from the show where

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01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:27.039
<v Speaker 2>we made the bets to uh, get some things cleared up. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>until then, call in tell us what's on your mind

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<v Speaker 2>while I got weeny dogs a Barkin three one nine

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<v Speaker 2>five two seven five zero one six. That's three one

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01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:40.599
<v Speaker 2>nine five two seven five zero one six, And you

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01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 2>can become part of this anyway. I do see in

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01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the chat room. Also, uh, let's see it look like

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01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I saw Robin in there and I see Aaron in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus of course we've got Bpete's video of the Week

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01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and looks like an Anon dropped in a video. Don't

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01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:57.239
<v Speaker 2>know what that is, but hey, we do have the

1173
01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.880
<v Speaker 2>active chat at ocelly dot com. So if you're hearing us,

1174
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.920
<v Speaker 2>let's see what time it is. Actually, if you're hearing us,

1175
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:05.840
<v Speaker 2>just about ten minutes after nine pm Eastern, maybe eleven

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<v Speaker 2>minutes now after nine pm Eastern on this particular Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty eighth day of March, we're live. But otherwise

1178
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 2>it's a recording, and without a time machine, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>call in three one nine, five, two seven, five year

1180
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:24.519
<v Speaker 2>or one six, So b Pete, a couple of odd

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01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:26.400
<v Speaker 2>questions I had for you. I was thinking about some

1182
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:29.000
<v Speaker 2>things lately, and I went and had to talk to

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01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:31.920
<v Speaker 2>missus O there during the break, and she was gonna

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01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:34.440
<v Speaker 2>call in, but now she's busy talking on the phone

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01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:38.360
<v Speaker 2>to her mom. Uh, are your parents still alive? I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always curious about this, like you know, once you

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01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:43.440
<v Speaker 2>get to a certain age. I mean, I don't have

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01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:46.519
<v Speaker 2>this experience because I lost one of mine real early,

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01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:48.280
<v Speaker 2>and the other one, you know, was lost to me

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01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:51.239
<v Speaker 2>a long time ago, so I didn't really have parents

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01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:55.360
<v Speaker 2>as an adult. Are your parents alive and were they

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01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:57.559
<v Speaker 2>alive for some of your adulthood or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Back let's see, in two thousand and nine, I went

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01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 4>over to Switzerland when I came back and in twenty eleven,

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01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:14.440
<v Speaker 4>my dad we all went out to eat.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's got a piece of steak caught in.

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<v Speaker 4>His esophagus, and it's something that had happened to my

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<v Speaker 4>mom in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>They went to the emergency room.

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<v Speaker 4>They gave her some I don't know, cottle liver oil

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<v Speaker 4>or something she swallowed and the piece of beet passed

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<v Speaker 4>well with my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't uncomfortable, he was able to breathe it all.

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<v Speaker 4>He just had that he could feel piece of steak

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<v Speaker 4>caught in the esophagus.

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<v Speaker 3>So we took him to the emergency.

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<v Speaker 4>Room and they decided to go in and scope him

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<v Speaker 4>and see if they could get it out.

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<v Speaker 3>And the.

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<v Speaker 4>Here knows the throat guy that decided to do the

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<v Speaker 4>procedure gets down in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And tries grabbing this piece of meat.

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<v Speaker 4>Instead of pushing it through, he tries to tracted with

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<v Speaker 4>a pair of tweezers and ends up carried my dad's esophagus,

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<v Speaker 4>which caused a collapsed lung. So they wheel him back

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<v Speaker 4>into the emergency room and they do surgery. He ended

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<v Speaker 4>up being in ICU on a ventilator for about three

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01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:26.199
<v Speaker 4>months and so subsequently, you go on a ventilator. If

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<v Speaker 4>you're on there too long, you lose your muscles and

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01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:32.480
<v Speaker 4>your throat, your ability to swallow, and things like that.

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<v Speaker 4>He got a real bad infection from it, so we

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<v Speaker 4>had him move from one hospital to another hospital, and

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01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 4>he gets another infection. Another collapsed a long. They go

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<v Speaker 4>in and do some procedures. He ended up being in

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<v Speaker 4>the hospital for about ten months and.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to go through therapy. Once he got everything taken

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<v Speaker 3>care of. He had a feeding tube, he had.

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<v Speaker 4>A track in place, and we fought with the hospital

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know two three months.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally we got him into therapy and we were able

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<v Speaker 3>to get him home.

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<v Speaker 4>And the whole time, the doctors kept pushing to put

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<v Speaker 4>him in a nursing home, and all I'm sitting there,

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01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.000
<v Speaker 4>going he doesn't need to go to nursing home.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a home. I had come back from Switzerland

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<v Speaker 3>and didn't have anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I was the only kid that didn't have kids, wasn't married,

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01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:24.680
<v Speaker 4>didn't have anything going on. So I spent a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years taking care of him around the house, and

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<v Speaker 4>he finally passed away in twenty and twelve, and it

1241
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:36.640
<v Speaker 4>wasn't long After that that, my mom was diagnosed with lymphoma,

1242
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:41.680
<v Speaker 4>so we took her through that whole chemo thing. She

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<v Speaker 4>passed away in twenty and fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>What were they together when your dad passed away or

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<v Speaker 2>were they?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, they they had built a house out in

1247
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:56.399
<v Speaker 4>the country. It took two small farmhouses and moved him

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01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.279
<v Speaker 4>to some property that they bought, put him on foundations,

1249
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.359
<v Speaker 4>gutted it, and then just redid the inside, built a

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<v Speaker 4>whole new house out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 4>So they I mean they were living the dream. They

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<v Speaker 4>had ten acres out there in the country. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they were together until dad passed away and my brother

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<v Speaker 4>came down, ended up buying the property from my parents

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01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:20.760
<v Speaker 4>and you know, told mom, you know, this is your house.

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<v Speaker 4>You stay here as long as you want. By that time,

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to go back to work full time

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01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:30.439
<v Speaker 4>once we got well, and then she came down with

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01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.840
<v Speaker 4>the limphone and all. My brother was able to help

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01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:33.560
<v Speaker 4>take care of her.

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<v Speaker 3>The end of that time.

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01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:37.239
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, they were. They were there my whole you know,

1264
01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:38.359
<v Speaker 4>most of my adult life.

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01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I mean you got to keep your parents

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01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 2>all the way in the middle. I'm just always interested

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01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:45.319
<v Speaker 2>in that dynamic because I never had it, So it's

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01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:47.720
<v Speaker 2>like weird to me, Like, you know, you're an adult

1269
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and you already have you know, adult parents and you

1270
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:53.680
<v Speaker 2>know they're still around, Like I have no idea what

1271
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:56.520
<v Speaker 2>that's like. So anyway, it is a thing.

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01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Well we have.

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01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:00.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, I had four brothers, the sisters, so we

1274
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:01.880
<v Speaker 4>pretty big family.

1275
01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:05.239
<v Speaker 3>But once mom passed.

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01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:09.039
<v Speaker 4>Away, you know, we were all the kids were never

1277
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:12.439
<v Speaker 4>really close. We're scattered over the US, so it was

1278
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:14.039
<v Speaker 4>hard getting people back and all that.

1279
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:15.800
<v Speaker 3>So but we still keep in touch.

1280
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:20.079
<v Speaker 4>I've got a sister that lives about thirty minutes away,

1281
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:22.680
<v Speaker 4>brother lives thirty minutes away. I got one in Texas,

1282
01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:27.279
<v Speaker 4>one who is spending his retirement traveling, and who's RV Okay,

1283
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:32.079
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's it's kind of it's it's it's different

1284
01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:36.800
<v Speaker 4>when your parents pass. You don't have that incentive to

1285
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:39.880
<v Speaker 4>to get back for the holidays. You know, mom and

1286
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:42.359
<v Speaker 4>dad ain't got long left, so you know, we need

1287
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:44.840
<v Speaker 4>to go back and spend this Christmas or this Thanksgiving.

1288
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:48.079
<v Speaker 4>And a lot has changed since things. But yeah, it's

1289
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:51.319
<v Speaker 4>fortunate to be able to have them up until I

1290
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:52.399
<v Speaker 4>was what sixty.

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01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Now, hey, look, it's just interesting to me, because it's

1292
01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:59.239
<v Speaker 2>just like a curious thing to even have that, you know,

1293
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 2>as ash as something in your life. But anyway, moving along,

1294
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:05.840
<v Speaker 2>we got a couple of things we didn't even bother

1295
01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:07.720
<v Speaker 2>to mention yet. I mean, we could have talked about

1296
01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:10.119
<v Speaker 2>the VP and his wife's trip to Greenland. We could

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01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:12.840
<v Speaker 2>have talked about there's an earthquake and meandmar and all that.

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01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I think there might be a James Jesus Angleton's song

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01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:19.319
<v Speaker 2>in the chat room. Maybe I'll take a risk and

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01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:21.119
<v Speaker 2>see if I can actually run the audio through for

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01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:25.920
<v Speaker 2>everybody real fast, see if that's what it is. Well,

1302
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:27.800
<v Speaker 2>here I'm running the song here, hold on.

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01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:32.760
<v Speaker 13>Down in the cloth where the fire is of Lifeline,

1304
01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:42.319
<v Speaker 13>James Jesus tells around the night, Oh your papers are on.

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01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:47.680
<v Speaker 13>I haven't seen James Jesus honestly.

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01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's very weird. And the video is very weird too.

1307
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:57.319
<v Speaker 2>And Anon dropped that in the chat room. I don't know.

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01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll include a link to it with the

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01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:03.680
<v Speaker 2>show notes. But definitely weird. You were saying, BPTE something.

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01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to get back to Jimmy James and see

1311
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:07.680
<v Speaker 2>if anybody else on the line. But you were saying something,

1312
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:08.800
<v Speaker 2>and Jimmy.

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01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:10.720
<v Speaker 4>Can probably shed some light on it, and I've heard

1314
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:13.960
<v Speaker 4>it just in passing the past couple of weeks. But

1315
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:16.960
<v Speaker 4>when they started releasing the files and everybody was coming

1316
01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:19.199
<v Speaker 4>out saying, oh see, the CIA was behind it this

1317
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:23.680
<v Speaker 4>that I heard bits and pieces of a story where

1318
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:28.119
<v Speaker 4>they're saying that the CIA was involved in the Kennedy

1319
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:34.560
<v Speaker 4>assassination and they also set up Nixon. And I thought,

1320
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:42.720
<v Speaker 4>how could you set up Nixon in that he supposedly

1321
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:46.560
<v Speaker 4>didn't know about the breaking into the water Gate, but

1322
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:52.680
<v Speaker 4>he was guilty of trying to cover up finding out

1323
01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:57.000
<v Speaker 4>what happened. So I'm wondering, how is it And I

1324
01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:58.760
<v Speaker 4>don't know if you've heard any of this, I'm sure

1325
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:01.399
<v Speaker 4>Jimmy can say some light. How is it that the

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01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:04.760
<v Speaker 4>CIA supposedly set up Nixon for Watergate?

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01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:06.840
<v Speaker 3>What is it that they set up?

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01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:09.279
<v Speaker 2>All right? Well, from the files, I don't know where

1329
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:14.199
<v Speaker 2>they're getting it from the files all right, But separately,

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01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I would say that it is an interesting supposition because

1331
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:20.560
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of CIA people, and I've said this

1332
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:23.359
<v Speaker 2>for years, even a whole lot of CIA people who

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01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:26.640
<v Speaker 2>should have known better and shouldn't have been getting busted

1334
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:29.800
<v Speaker 2>on a simple black bag job, get busted on a

1335
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:34.520
<v Speaker 2>black bag job. It almost looks intentional. So it looks

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01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:37.720
<v Speaker 2>to me like the CIA guys who you know, bungled

1337
01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:40.079
<v Speaker 2>things and it's supposedly, you know, the biggest bungled burglary

1338
01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:44.239
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah, you know that narrative they've always fed us. Well,

1339
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:47.600
<v Speaker 2>if you consider that it was done intentionally, then yet

1340
01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:50.840
<v Speaker 2>it looks like the CIA instead of you know, doing

1341
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:54.359
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is they did to facilitate things regarding the

1342
01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy assassination, instead they facilitate you know, the biggest scanned

1343
01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:04.000
<v Speaker 2>in US political history. Basically because even now when we're

1344
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:08.479
<v Speaker 2>talking about this signal controversy, right, they're calling it signal Gate,

1345
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:11.560
<v Speaker 2>ever after everything has gate after it because of Watergate,

1346
01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:15.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, And it almost seems intentional because of course

1347
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:20.399
<v Speaker 2>they run psychological operations, they run media influence campaigns. We

1348
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:23.640
<v Speaker 2>know that they were, you know, clearly, and that's one

1349
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:25.479
<v Speaker 2>thing that did come out in the files is that

1350
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:29.520
<v Speaker 2>they're clearly having discussions. I mean, Schlessinger is even telling

1351
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy it's like forty seven percent of you know, the

1352
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:36.720
<v Speaker 2>people that we have in diplomatic positions are really under

1353
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:39.439
<v Speaker 2>diplomatic cover, they're working for the CIA directly.

1354
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:43.439
<v Speaker 4>Oh absolutely, But I thought that was you know that

1355
01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:47.199
<v Speaker 4>that's pretty much been a known thing. Yeah, over the years.

1356
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:51.640
<v Speaker 4>But my question was how you know they's but.

1357
01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.920
<v Speaker 2>They kept that they kept that Slessinger memo withheld in

1358
01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:58.319
<v Speaker 2>almost almost in full, like a whole page of it,

1359
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:00.920
<v Speaker 2>because it revealed a lot of things that people in

1360
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the know would have known. It's slightly embarrassing to the CIA.

1361
01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:07.520
<v Speaker 2>But here's the problem with it is if the public

1362
01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:12.359
<v Speaker 2>doesn't understand that it's embarrassing to the CIA, who cares? Right, Like,

1363
01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:14.399
<v Speaker 2>that's you know what I'm saying, like, and for you

1364
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:16.760
<v Speaker 2>and me, we're going yawn, Yeah, of course we knew that.

1365
01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:19.680
<v Speaker 2>But now there's absolute proof that people that were on

1366
01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:24.199
<v Speaker 2>the inside of the administration knew this. And indeed, you know,

1367
01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:26.560
<v Speaker 2>the whole Kennedy's going to smash the CIA into a

1368
01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:29.840
<v Speaker 2>thousand pieces, and all that reported by the was it

1369
01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:32.640
<v Speaker 2>New York Times, a New York Post reporter? You know,

1370
01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:37.000
<v Speaker 2>after the fact, you know, seems like he did seriously

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01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:40.239
<v Speaker 2>ask Lessenger, listen, give me an idea how we would

1372
01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:43.479
<v Speaker 2>go about doing this? How do we actually dismantle this thing.

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01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:48.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can understand with Nixon basically end in the

1374
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:50.319
<v Speaker 4>Vietnam War and pulling this out.

1375
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:52.399
<v Speaker 3>You know, of course you wait until a second term

1376
01:15:52.399 --> 01:15:52.920
<v Speaker 3>to do it.

1377
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:57.479
<v Speaker 4>But the theory I heard was, you know, the military

1378
01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:01.720
<v Speaker 4>industrial complex were getting ready to lose the money making heyday,

1379
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:05.319
<v Speaker 4>so is the war ended? So they wanted to take

1380
01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:08.399
<v Speaker 4>Nixon out and they set him up with Watergate to

1381
01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:11.000
<v Speaker 4>get him out. And I'm sitting there thinking, but the

1382
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:16.159
<v Speaker 4>war was already over, you know what, so they get

1383
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:18.920
<v Speaker 4>revenged by getting rid of Nixon. Did they think that

1384
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.119
<v Speaker 4>the war was going to crank back up because the

1385
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Democrats had already voted to defund the.

1386
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:24.359
<v Speaker 3>Whole thing at that time.

1387
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the war was their way to end.

1388
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:27.720
<v Speaker 3>It was to cut off the money.

1389
01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the war didn't end. The war didn't end

1390
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:32.560
<v Speaker 2>at that time. At the time of the Watergate, the

1391
01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:36.840
<v Speaker 2>war wasn't over yet, right, So you know, could it

1392
01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:38.880
<v Speaker 2>be that they wanted to seal it so there was

1393
01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:41.520
<v Speaker 2>no way this guy would have the political capital to

1394
01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:45.279
<v Speaker 2>do anything and finish the job. Maybe that was part

1395
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:47.359
<v Speaker 2>of it, but I don't think it was about maintaining

1396
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.199
<v Speaker 2>the Vietnam War. I think it was about getting Nixon

1397
01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:52.439
<v Speaker 2>out of the way because he was literally dumb enough

1398
01:16:52.439 --> 01:16:54.039
<v Speaker 2>to think he was in charge. I mean, I really

1399
01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:57.399
<v Speaker 2>do feel that way. But again that's my personal opinion.

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01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:00.560
<v Speaker 2>As far as what the documents reveal about it, I

1401
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:04.760
<v Speaker 2>don't see anything significant there that lends itself more to

1402
01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:08.640
<v Speaker 2>that conclusion about Nixon. Uh, but it does fill in

1403
01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:10.840
<v Speaker 2>some gaps, like I said about you know what people

1404
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:13.600
<v Speaker 2>in the know actually knew and all that. Jimmy James

1405
01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:15.279
<v Speaker 2>is still on hold. We'll bring him on see if

1406
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:18.279
<v Speaker 2>he's got anything to say about it. He just might. Uh,

1407
01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.439
<v Speaker 2>and anybody else who wants to join us look up

1408
01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:22.920
<v Speaker 2>until ten pm when Aaron Show starts the Age of

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01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Transitions three one nine five two seven five zero one six.

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01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:30.199
<v Speaker 2>And we're doing this the old school away with the

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01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:33.720
<v Speaker 2>phone calls. So it's all working fine and dandy. Although

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01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:37.439
<v Speaker 2>we might change days, as we said, who knows, we

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01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:39.960
<v Speaker 2>might not, and we're definitely gonna have to change the

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01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:43.399
<v Speaker 2>way we do phone calls come May, but we'll see

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01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.079
<v Speaker 2>when we get there. Three one nine five two seven

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01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:49.760
<v Speaker 2>five zero one six. And uh, we'll just bring Jimmy

1417
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:53.840
<v Speaker 2>back since he's the only caller so far. Jimmy you

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01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:55.800
<v Speaker 2>got any thoughts on what you've heard discussed here in

1419
01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the past few minutes.

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01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Nixon was definitely removed by a bloodless coup deveta.

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01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I won't go so far as to stay. I won't name,

1422
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:26.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't I have my suspicions, but he was clearly removed, right.

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01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:31.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think Helms was. I think Helms was actively

1424
01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:35.199
<v Speaker 2>involved in trying to CYA on this because there was

1425
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:37.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff about to come out through the

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01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:41.119
<v Speaker 2>various committees, a lot of questions were being asked about

1427
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:43.920
<v Speaker 2>the CIA. There was a lot of discovery. We have

1428
01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:47.720
<v Speaker 2>the MK search thing going on, you know, recording MK

1429
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Ultra and all that. I mean, there's a bunch of

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01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:54.880
<v Speaker 2>things happening here all at once. So it could be

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01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:57.079
<v Speaker 2>that the CIA just didn't like the fact that Nixon

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01:18:57.119 --> 01:18:59.399
<v Speaker 2>thought he was, you know, in a position where he

1433
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:02.720
<v Speaker 2>could demand things from them or asked questions. And we

1434
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.159
<v Speaker 2>know about what was dramatized in that Nixon movie, but

1435
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:10.760
<v Speaker 2>there was a meeting between Dick Helms and Richard Nixon

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01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:14.079
<v Speaker 2>where Nixon's making demands of Dick Helms, and I'm pretty

1437
01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:17.319
<v Speaker 2>sure Dick Helms pretty much told him, Yeah, do you

1438
01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:19.960
<v Speaker 2>know who you're talking to, who's your boss? You know,

1439
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.039
<v Speaker 2>it seems like just saying that's the way it looks

1440
01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:27.600
<v Speaker 2>to me. Maybe again, maybe it's just me, but that's

1441
01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:29.479
<v Speaker 2>the way I see it. And the CIA would have

1442
01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:32.039
<v Speaker 2>had a clear motive to get him out of the

1443
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:34.880
<v Speaker 2>way in a bloodless coup, really, because he was asking

1444
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:37.439
<v Speaker 2>too many questions and also thought he could rain them in.

1445
01:19:37.800 --> 01:19:40.920
<v Speaker 2>And maybe somebody said just as simple as hey, Kennedy

1446
01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:43.840
<v Speaker 2>thought he was going to reorganize us and make the

1447
01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:49.039
<v Speaker 2>DIA the new premier organization in our national security state.

1448
01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:52.000
<v Speaker 2>And we can't have that because we know about the

1449
01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:56.640
<v Speaker 2>competition between the POND, the OSS, the CIA when it

1450
01:19:56.680 --> 01:19:59.920
<v Speaker 2>was first being established, and a couple of other agents

1451
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:05.159
<v Speaker 2>that were competing for supremacy in the national security state. So,

1452
01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:09.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, a little more benign way to look at it.

1453
01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:12.720
<v Speaker 2>But I think, yeah, bloodless coup would be a nice

1454
01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:17.359
<v Speaker 2>way to put it. Jimmy.

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01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I have to correct you on one thing.

1456
01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:26.720
<v Speaker 1>My problem with the Super Bowl bet was not my bet.

1457
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I already said, yeah, I bet on Kansas City because

1458
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought they would win. My issue was that I

1459
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:43.279
<v Speaker 1>remember the Robin also bet on Kansas City and therefore

1460
01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:47.079
<v Speaker 1>when out of one, but he says he picked Eagles,

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01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:51.319
<v Speaker 1>so I guess hopefully he's got the right recording.

1462
01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a recording, and b by the way, if

1463
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:59.279
<v Speaker 2>you can find it on my speaker, there's a transcript

1464
01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>for every show, So I have that functionality on the

1465
01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:07.520
<v Speaker 2>spreaker where it creates a transcript automatically for every show.

1466
01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:12.039
<v Speaker 2>So if you go to my speaker account, you look

1467
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:14.920
<v Speaker 2>for the night that we did the dollar bets on

1468
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:19.159
<v Speaker 2>the super Bowl, you can read it and listen to

1469
01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:23.399
<v Speaker 2>it if you want, just saying it's there, and I'll

1470
01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:26.239
<v Speaker 2>double check all of that before you know, we make

1471
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>final declarations here. But tonight we're going to explore just

1472
01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:31.920
<v Speaker 2>a piece of tape and talk about who's who what.

1473
01:21:33.239 --> 01:21:35.760
<v Speaker 2>But I'll definitely double check it over the course of

1474
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:38.239
<v Speaker 2>this coming week, as as I had JFK files this

1475
01:21:38.319 --> 01:21:42.600
<v Speaker 2>past week that I've been digging into intensely and spending

1476
01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:47.000
<v Speaker 2>too much time on it, honestly, and trying to get

1477
01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:49.279
<v Speaker 2>my own take on this stuff, not just you know,

1478
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:53.760
<v Speaker 2>follow everybody else's ideas. And it's been an interesting journey,

1479
01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:56.520
<v Speaker 2>but I have not learned a great deal of new stuff.

1480
01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:59.159
<v Speaker 2>I think I've got about a collection of maybe twenty

1481
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:06.680
<v Speaker 2>entirely new documents maybe out of what sixty some one

1482
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:09.920
<v Speaker 2>thousand that I have at least done a partial search on.

1483
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:13.840
<v Speaker 2>So you know, the actual total, I'm not sure of

1484
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:16.000
<v Speaker 2>at this moment off the top of my head, but

1485
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I do know that there have been at least four

1486
01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:23.279
<v Speaker 2>or five releases in batches, and the first one was

1487
01:22:23.319 --> 01:22:25.479
<v Speaker 2>like thirty two thousand, the next one was like thirty

1488
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:29.479
<v Speaker 2>one thousand, and then there was a release of like

1489
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:33.079
<v Speaker 2>less than one hundred and Uh. There's also some new

1490
01:22:33.159 --> 01:22:35.560
<v Speaker 2>FBI ones that I have not touched yet. I haven't

1491
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:38.119
<v Speaker 2>been a ZIP folder, but I haven't touched them yet.

1492
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:43.119
<v Speaker 2>So still working on it. Guys, what can I tell you?

1493
01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:46.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to make up a story just to

1494
01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:49.800
<v Speaker 2>answer a question about any of that stuff. But anyway, Jimmy,

1495
01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:52.039
<v Speaker 2>any other thoughts you have before we move along in

1496
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:52.720
<v Speaker 2>the conversation.

1497
01:22:56.239 --> 01:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, about all I've seen that was new was a

1498
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:03.760
<v Speaker 1>bunch of thought recordings that I've either never noticed or

1499
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought they were just uploaded. Most of them seemed

1500
01:23:07.960 --> 01:23:13.319
<v Speaker 1>to be from the Garrison Investigations already had them all anyway,

1501
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>from that upload by Lenna Sank where they uploaded, didn't

1502
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>them before?

1503
01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I missed part of that, Jimmy because my

1504
01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:29.800
<v Speaker 2>sound dipped on my end. I'm sure everybody else heard you,

1505
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:33.760
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't. What'd you say?

1506
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:44.479
<v Speaker 1>The first link I got it had three blinks. The

1507
01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>only thing I really seen knew in the JFK stuff

1508
01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>was a bunch of audio recordings that either I never

1509
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:56.279
<v Speaker 1>noticed or it has to be part of the new stuff,

1510
01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:02.680
<v Speaker 1>but they mostly seem like recordings from the Garrison investigation,

1511
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and I already had all of them from that upload

1512
01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that Lenosana had a few years ago with all them

1513
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>in it.

1514
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Now, I didn't notice any new audio, so that must

1515
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:18.600
<v Speaker 2>have been something from before. Yeah, I just posted what

1516
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:23.159
<v Speaker 2>I had up to the twenty sixth as far as

1517
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the pages go. But there is another release either today

1518
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:32.039
<v Speaker 2>or yesterday. In addition, if you go to the National Archives,

1519
01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:33.920
<v Speaker 2>you you can follow up on this stuff, and they

1520
01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:38.199
<v Speaker 2>have it pretty well organized, except they haven't done a

1521
01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:40.640
<v Speaker 2>like a spreadsheet on these so that you could easily

1522
01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:45.119
<v Speaker 2>cross reference stuff. But otherwise, I mean, they are pumping

1523
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:47.119
<v Speaker 2>it out now. It is putting it out, and allegedly

1524
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:51.199
<v Speaker 2>they're working on scanning stuff right now. As I speak

1525
01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:55.840
<v Speaker 2>from what I understand, But thus far we've got. On

1526
01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the eighteenth, they released thirty two thousand pages at about

1527
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>seven pm Eastern time. On the eighteenth, again ten thirty

1528
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:08.239
<v Speaker 2>they released another thirty one thousand pages, thirty one thousand,

1529
01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:12.279
<v Speaker 2>four hundred pages, that is, at ten thirty pm Eastern

1530
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:15.880
<v Speaker 2>on the eighteenth. And then on the twentieth, at about

1531
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>nine thirty PM Eastern, thirteen thousand pages were released. And

1532
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:25.319
<v Speaker 2>on the twenty sixth you got fifty three pages in

1533
01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:29.960
<v Speaker 2>sixteen pdf files that was released at three thirty pm Eastern.

1534
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:34.720
<v Speaker 2>But today I think there's another release in progress or

1535
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:38.760
<v Speaker 2>being scanned whatever. It's in progress. Let's just put it

1536
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:42.279
<v Speaker 2>that way, so you know, not done yet, by the way,

1537
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:45.560
<v Speaker 2>so there may be more to be revealed soon, I'm

1538
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:48.760
<v Speaker 2>not sure, or maybe not. I guess we'll have to

1539
01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:53.800
<v Speaker 2>stay tuned as per usual. Right anyway, b Pete, what

1540
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:55.520
<v Speaker 2>else we got? You got anything else you want to

1541
01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:57.359
<v Speaker 2>talk about? You want to talk about the earthquake or

1542
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:02.000
<v Speaker 2>any other political chicanery or how about you know what

1543
01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:05.239
<v Speaker 2>is it? Now? Trump is issued in executive order he

1544
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:08.520
<v Speaker 2>wants to correct the culture at the Smithsonian Museum. I

1545
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>think he says they've got the wrong agenda over there

1546
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:13.720
<v Speaker 2>or something. I don't know what else you got on

1547
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:14.199
<v Speaker 2>your mind.

1548
01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:15.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1549
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:18.640
<v Speaker 4>I've totally just given up on trying to pay attention

1550
01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:21.079
<v Speaker 4>to Trump this stuff going on.

1551
01:26:21.439 --> 01:26:22.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, I understand that.

1552
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:27.039
<v Speaker 4>He came in blazing doing the stuff just as fast

1553
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.640
<v Speaker 4>as he could, create so much chaos that the other

1554
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:32.920
<v Speaker 4>side can't keep up with it. But I really don't

1555
01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:36.840
<v Speaker 4>understand his reasoning behind some of this stuff. I just

1556
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:40.640
<v Speaker 4>don't get it, and I've removed myself from it to

1557
01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:44.439
<v Speaker 4>the point that I really don't give a crap anymore.

1558
01:26:48.680 --> 01:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Now I understand, and I've said over and over again,

1559
01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:55.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, this follows. This tracks with what Bannon said,

1560
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>which is we're going to flood the zone. So that's

1561
01:26:58.720 --> 01:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>what we've been dealing with for about what is it

1562
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:03.039
<v Speaker 2>almost night? Has he been in there ninety days? Yeah?

1563
01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I think get Jebruary February of March.

1564
01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:08.880
<v Speaker 4>Not quite.

1565
01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, it seems like ninety years, but sixty sixty

1566
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:17.479
<v Speaker 2>days because there's been so much allegedly going on and

1567
01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:21.720
<v Speaker 2>then so much actually going on. You know, the signal

1568
01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>chat thing. By the way, I played the AI voice

1569
01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>reading of the signal chat last night on the podcast

1570
01:27:28.199 --> 01:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>in case you wanted to listen to it as opposed

1571
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:34.039
<v Speaker 2>to trying to read it best I could, though, because

1572
01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the AI didn't identify the people speaking when they were

1573
01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:40.479
<v Speaker 2>going by, so I tried to do that, and it

1574
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:44.279
<v Speaker 2>also didn't voice the emojis that they were using, like

1575
01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>at certain points they're doing high five emojis and fire

1576
01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:51.159
<v Speaker 2>and American flags and you know, celebrating during the chat.

1577
01:27:52.159 --> 01:27:54.520
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I just tried to relate it. This is

1578
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>what's actually in it. And that was from the release

1579
01:27:57.760 --> 01:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>from The Atlantic Reporter, which I thought had to release

1580
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>the stuff because they were starting to accuse him of

1581
01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>like why is he even in on that chat? We're

1582
01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:08.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to investigate it. Uh, you know, hey, he's

1583
01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:10.279
<v Speaker 2>a bad guy. You know, he made up Russian Russian

1584
01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>and Russian stories and all this stuff. I mean, really

1585
01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to make it seem like maybe he was a liar.

1586
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.239
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, obviously he had to drop the stuff

1587
01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>out there. You say it's not classified, Well, here it is.

1588
01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:24.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, what are you going to do? I mean

1589
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:27.520
<v Speaker 2>that's a weird situation. You have any thoughts on that?

1590
01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>By the way, be Pete about this signal chat and uh, you.

1591
01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Know, well somebody was set up for them, for that

1592
01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:39.439
<v Speaker 4>guy to be able to get access to it and

1593
01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:42.560
<v Speaker 4>then put his story out there. Of course, the Atlantic

1594
01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:45.800
<v Speaker 4>is this guy is known for making claims that don't

1595
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:46.479
<v Speaker 4>hold up.

1596
01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:48.560
<v Speaker 3>So he comes out big guns.

1597
01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:51.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, all this classified stuff was discussed and blah

1598
01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:53.640
<v Speaker 4>blah blah, and then we find out it's it's basically

1599
01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:59.279
<v Speaker 4>a nothing burger. I just it amazes me the things

1600
01:28:59.319 --> 01:29:04.159
<v Speaker 4>that the headlines and are made into stories and eventually

1601
01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:07.279
<v Speaker 4>you find out there's nothing to it. Well there's no

1602
01:29:07.439 --> 01:29:09.760
<v Speaker 4>reporting anymore of what's actually going on.

1603
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you something. You really think it's

1604
01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:16.479
<v Speaker 2>a nothing burger that before the strikes happened, these guys

1605
01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:21.079
<v Speaker 2>have a reporter in there in a conversation between the

1606
01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>head of the guys.

1607
01:29:22.119 --> 01:29:24.760
<v Speaker 4>The story, that's the story we're not getting, is how

1608
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:27.319
<v Speaker 4>in the hell this guy got into that chat?

1609
01:29:27.399 --> 01:29:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Apparently it was what some aid that I mean, how

1610
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:34.840
<v Speaker 3>did he did he send him the link or did he?

1611
01:29:36.319 --> 01:29:38.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, how did it happen? That's the story I

1612
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:40.520
<v Speaker 4>want to hear. I don't care about the conversation. If

1613
01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:42.680
<v Speaker 4>they want to sit there and high five each other

1614
01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:45.399
<v Speaker 4>and post a bunch of American flags talking about a

1615
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:48.039
<v Speaker 4>hit that they're going to make on a bunch of

1616
01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:52.640
<v Speaker 4>idiots over in Yemen. That's, you know, creating chaos for

1617
01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:56.600
<v Speaker 4>anybody trying to use the Red Sea. Fine, but the

1618
01:29:56.720 --> 01:29:59.960
<v Speaker 4>story is how did this guy get involved in it?

1619
01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:01.359
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm waiting to hear.

1620
01:30:01.479 --> 01:30:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'm just but the question I'm asking is,

1621
01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't bother you that this guy is potentially

1622
01:30:08.039 --> 01:30:11.560
<v Speaker 2>getting the heads up about something like an airstrike happening

1623
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>before it happens.

1624
01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:17.640
<v Speaker 4>That bothers me because I'd like to find you know,

1625
01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:21.039
<v Speaker 4>Trump went through this during his first term and so

1626
01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:26.479
<v Speaker 4>many people that were undermining him from within the structure

1627
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:30.479
<v Speaker 4>of the administration. You know, how is it that this time,

1628
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:33.920
<v Speaker 4>something like this, this reporter was allowed to be put

1629
01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:37.560
<v Speaker 4>on that chat and nobody noticed that he was there.

1630
01:30:38.279 --> 01:30:40.079
<v Speaker 3>That's the part I don't understand.

1631
01:30:40.279 --> 01:30:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I don't understand.

1632
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:44.319
<v Speaker 3>You have a group chat. You know who's in the group.

1633
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't understand it at all, because apparently you

1634
01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:49.840
<v Speaker 2>have to be invited in. And again you got the

1635
01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:52.239
<v Speaker 2>head of the CIA, you got Tulci Gabbard there, you

1636
01:30:52.279 --> 01:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>got the vice president there. That's quite an interesting group

1637
01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>of people that you're in on a chat with. So

1638
01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:03.239
<v Speaker 2>some connected to one of those people, or indeed one

1639
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:06.239
<v Speaker 2>of those people is responsible for.

1640
01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:09.439
<v Speaker 4>This, right, was it it Walts's aid or something that

1641
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:13.520
<v Speaker 4>they've tracked down, was the one that somehow sent the

1642
01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:14.520
<v Speaker 4>link out or something?

1643
01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, as far as I got, I thought it was

1644
01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Walt's himself, but maybe it was Waltz's aid. It's connected

1645
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>to him.

1646
01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:21.760
<v Speaker 3>He's made the comment he says, I don't know who

1647
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:24.159
<v Speaker 3>this guy is. I've never met him before, you know,

1648
01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't recognize this number. And apparently it was Walts's aid.

1649
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Well he said it after he said it after the fact.

1650
01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:34.079
<v Speaker 2>But nobody said anything, which you just pointed out. Nobody

1651
01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:37.439
<v Speaker 2>said anything during this chat, which is weird to me

1652
01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:41.399
<v Speaker 2>because all these people that are involved in sensitive signaling

1653
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:46.319
<v Speaker 2>and you know, classified work constantly, nobody bothered to ask

1654
01:31:46.439 --> 01:31:49.239
<v Speaker 2>about I mean, like, okay, I know who Tulca gabbartt is.

1655
01:31:49.279 --> 01:31:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I know who jd Vance is. Who the hell is

1656
01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>this guy JG? That makes no That is one of

1657
01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:56.600
<v Speaker 2>the weird stories here.

1658
01:31:57.039 --> 01:31:58.800
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot like you're in a chat with two

1659
01:31:58.920 --> 01:31:59.600
<v Speaker 3>hundred people.

1660
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:03.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, no, it's not like my question is why didn't

1661
01:32:03.159 --> 01:32:06.520
<v Speaker 4>somebody notice that there was a number in that group

1662
01:32:07.119 --> 01:32:10.720
<v Speaker 4>that wasn't responding, that wasn't taking part in the conversation,

1663
01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:13.640
<v Speaker 4>and go, wait, who the hell is this guy?

1664
01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I have the same open question. And again

1665
01:32:18.199 --> 01:32:22.439
<v Speaker 2>because you're you're regardless of how they're messaging and talking about. Well, gee,

1666
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm tired of you know, the people in Europe or deadbeats.

1667
01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:28.359
<v Speaker 2>They don't defend their own shipping lanes. Uh, and what

1668
01:32:28.399 --> 01:32:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about any of that. My point is

1669
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>that this is troubling that not only did you know,

1670
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:38.159
<v Speaker 2>let's just say somebody's aid did this, Okay, somebody's trying

1671
01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>to do it. Maybe they're trying to undermine things. Maybe

1672
01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>they legitimately thought this guy's name is similar to somebody

1673
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>else's that need to be there. Whatever. The weird point

1674
01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:50.520
<v Speaker 2>to me is that all these people in charge of

1675
01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:55.800
<v Speaker 2>our national security nobody bothered to look or ask. So

1676
01:32:56.439 --> 01:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>something is very strange here, and that's the open question.

1677
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I find it troubling. And it's not because oh there

1678
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:05.079
<v Speaker 2>was top secrets. No, there wasn't a lot of top

1679
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:08.560
<v Speaker 2>secret there. But this is in advance of airstrikes. So

1680
01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:11.840
<v Speaker 2>let's just imagine for a moment this guy Goldberg is

1681
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>sympathetic to the Hooties. Well, a couple hours ahead of time,

1682
01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:19.039
<v Speaker 2>he could go, hey, guys, guess what the US is

1683
01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>about to attack you. I have it on not only

1684
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:23.079
<v Speaker 2>good authority, I have it on the authority.

1685
01:33:23.880 --> 01:33:27.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know about this time a clock, you might

1686
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:28.680
<v Speaker 4>want to find somewhere else to.

1687
01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Be, you know, because they even specifically in that chat

1688
01:33:32.119 --> 01:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>talked about there's a particular terrorist target we want to hit.

1689
01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:37.680
<v Speaker 2>He is apparently at somebody's house right now, and we're

1690
01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna hit it. I mean, it's a bit much if

1691
01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:44.840
<v Speaker 2>this guy, and again potentially who knows what this guy's

1692
01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:50.279
<v Speaker 2>loyalties are. I don't know Goldberg myself. I'm not that

1693
01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>familiar with him. I didn't even think he was a

1694
01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:54.159
<v Speaker 2>big name. I mean, I know the Atlantic and he

1695
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:57.119
<v Speaker 2>can say whatever you want about that publication. But regardless

1696
01:33:57.159 --> 01:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>of where the guy came from, he doesn't belong in that.

1697
01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:03.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So, but I can't understand how the hell he

1698
01:34:04.039 --> 01:34:07.239
<v Speaker 4>got in and how he stayed someone didn't notice.

1699
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:09.560
<v Speaker 2>But I don't point the dirty end of the stick

1700
01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>at him, because again, other people should have been aware

1701
01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:16.479
<v Speaker 2>of this, and somebody put him in there, like you said,

1702
01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and the idea that again, the head of the CIA,

1703
01:34:19.319 --> 01:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the director of National Intelligence, the head of the State Department,

1704
01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:28.800
<v Speaker 2>the Vice President, nobody bothered to even Look, I don't know,

1705
01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to say about that, but it

1706
01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:35.479
<v Speaker 2>is troubling one way or another, So I don't you know,

1707
01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:37.920
<v Speaker 2>That's why I bring it up, and that's why I

1708
01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>wanted to play for everybody what it was exactly. You know,

1709
01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:46.039
<v Speaker 2>that was released at least, and apparently he withheld some

1710
01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:48.319
<v Speaker 2>of it anyway, because even though the White House pretty

1711
01:34:48.399 --> 01:34:50.560
<v Speaker 2>much said, you know, no problem, no problem, all day

1712
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:53.640
<v Speaker 2>later on that night, before he released the story, they

1713
01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:55.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of went to him and said, there is a

1714
01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:58.399
<v Speaker 2>piece in there that's sensitive and maybe you don't want

1715
01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:01.039
<v Speaker 2>to share that, you know, don't release that part of it.

1716
01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>So they did finally tell him part of it was

1717
01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:07.760
<v Speaker 2>something that was too sensitive, and he withheld it, so,

1718
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know. I don't blame the reporter though,

1719
01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and I don't even see the point of trying to

1720
01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:16.279
<v Speaker 2>point to even his past track record, because the guy

1721
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:19.439
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have belonged there, regardless of who he is. Or

1722
01:35:19.479 --> 01:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>what is uh uh if it was, I don't know,

1723
01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.439
<v Speaker 2>Mark Levin, his ass shouldn't have been in there, Okay,

1724
01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying it just should not have happened. So

1725
01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's a weird thing. Jimmy, what do

1726
01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:36.359
<v Speaker 2>you think about that whole signal uh? You know, signal

1727
01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:38.319
<v Speaker 2>gate or whatever they're calling it. You have any thoughts

1728
01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:38.600
<v Speaker 2>on it?

1729
01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:49.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, Waltz's staffords fired today because it was him

1730
01:35:49.159 --> 01:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that did it. Uh? Yeah, Well, see, as far as

1731
01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Greenberg goes, he should have the meat at the minute

1732
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that he realized to listening into a restricted not top secret,

1733
01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:11.439
<v Speaker 1>not even confidential. It's unless at the beginning of the call,

1734
01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of Defense said that this is top secret.

1735
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>It was not top secret. It is restricted information that

1736
01:36:20.279 --> 01:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>this clown reporter should have hung up immediately. It's him

1737
01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>that's in violation of the National Security Act.

1738
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:33.000
<v Speaker 4>How is he a violation that somebody sent him the

1739
01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:34.239
<v Speaker 4>link by.

1740
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Listening into information he had absolutely no business listening into.

1741
01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>The minute he started hearing the names, he should have

1742
01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:45.760
<v Speaker 1>hung up. He was not an invited party.

1743
01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:49.399
<v Speaker 4>Someone someone to disagree with you there, Jimmy, he was

1744
01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:52.520
<v Speaker 4>given a link and invited into this conversation.

1745
01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, see, somebody did invite him in, and somebody from

1746
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>one of those offices. And if it's a guy, look,

1747
01:36:58.720 --> 01:37:01.640
<v Speaker 2>they blame this staffer. And let's just go with that

1748
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:03.720
<v Speaker 2>story and say it's true. I don't know if it is,

1749
01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:07.199
<v Speaker 2>because sometimes you know, they'll throw out a sacrificial lamb.

1750
01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's fire this guy over it. Uh, but let's just

1751
01:37:10.279 --> 01:37:11.119
<v Speaker 2>as human's true.

1752
01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's just think let's just the human's true. Haven officials,

1753
01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the vice president doesn't do the tech work. They have

1754
01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:21.399
<v Speaker 1>these clowns that work for them. Of course, they don't

1755
01:37:21.439 --> 01:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>set up phones and whatnot.

1756
01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Of course part of the bureaucracy.

1757
01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:29.720
<v Speaker 1>It's almost as if the bureaucracy is once again trying

1758
01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to sabotage Trump. In fact, the other Waltz, the one

1759
01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>that ram for vice president today, flat out called for

1760
01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:42.439
<v Speaker 1>a shadow government, which is a joke because there already

1761
01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>is one. Yeah, damn party.

1762
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Look, I agree that there's already a shadow government. But

1763
01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>the thing is the Okay, somebody invited him in, that

1764
01:37:53.720 --> 01:37:55.199
<v Speaker 2>was part of that. Now, I don't know that this

1765
01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:57.359
<v Speaker 2>was part of the bureaucracy, or this is one of

1766
01:37:57.359 --> 01:37:59.640
<v Speaker 2>this guy's hand pickades. I don't know this guy's track

1767
01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:02.680
<v Speaker 2>record even, Okay, I'm just saying that, let's just go

1768
01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:06.520
<v Speaker 2>with the idea that this guy did it. Therefore, the

1769
01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:10.199
<v Speaker 2>reporter was invited in by somebody from that office.

1770
01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Right now, he was at the intended No he was.

1771
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Does he have a high clearance?

1772
01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:18.720
<v Speaker 5>No?

1773
01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:19.439
<v Speaker 1>No.

1774
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:25.680
<v Speaker 14>But as you said, Jeff, what happens when a JFK

1775
01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:29.800
<v Speaker 14>researcher gets documents that they find out they shouldn't have had.

1776
01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:37.079
<v Speaker 1>They get shook down and get in trouble, now, don't they? Yeah, situation, Well,

1777
01:38:37.119 --> 01:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>but but yeah, exactly. I find it ironic that I

1778
01:38:43.319 --> 01:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>hear these characters. What oh, none other than John Dean

1779
01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>was on MSNBC running down someone about, oh, the snowman

1780
01:38:56.960 --> 01:39:01.760
<v Speaker 1>weaken papers and he's taking a boy. These traders got

1781
01:39:01.920 --> 01:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>me these trees and as people need to be locked up,

1782
01:39:07.319 --> 01:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I thincond your best body was the Pentagon leaker. Did

1783
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you feel the same way about him? No?

1784
01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:18.239
<v Speaker 2>See, but that's an intentional leak. My point is that, look,

1785
01:39:18.279 --> 01:39:21.479
<v Speaker 2>a reporter sometimes gets called into these chats, gets called

1786
01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>into phone calls, uh, you know, and and things like

1787
01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:28.319
<v Speaker 2>this all the time by people in the government so

1788
01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:30.439
<v Speaker 2>that they can be informed about this or that or

1789
01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:34.039
<v Speaker 2>the third thing. So initially I would say this guy

1790
01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:36.720
<v Speaker 2>could have been called in on this and thought nothing

1791
01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:40.600
<v Speaker 2>of it just because the chat. He's probably involved in

1792
01:39:40.640 --> 01:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of them now and then right some committees

1793
01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:45.520
<v Speaker 2>working on a new farm bill. They wanted to know

1794
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:47.039
<v Speaker 2>the details before it comes out.

1795
01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:51.159
<v Speaker 3>The same thing with them, Julie the songs. You know

1796
01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:51.800
<v Speaker 3>he was.

1797
01:39:52.199 --> 01:39:56.800
<v Speaker 4>People called him a trader for publishing things. He wasn't

1798
01:39:56.840 --> 01:40:00.640
<v Speaker 4>a trader for publishing material he was, and the question

1799
01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:04.359
<v Speaker 4>comes in, did he help somebody hack to get the information.

1800
01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:06.279
<v Speaker 3>That's a separate argument.

1801
01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:08.560
<v Speaker 4>When you look at the Pentagon papers, or you look

1802
01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:11.720
<v Speaker 4>at Edward Snowden, you look at Juliana Sange, they had

1803
01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:15.960
<v Speaker 4>materials that were given to them that when they published them,

1804
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:20.039
<v Speaker 4>they should be protected from it. If somebody invited me

1805
01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:25.279
<v Speaker 4>into a chat, it doesn't matter about clearances or anything

1806
01:40:25.359 --> 01:40:29.039
<v Speaker 4>else being involved in the chat. They weren't discussing classified information.

1807
01:40:29.520 --> 01:40:33.239
<v Speaker 4>They were discussing sensitive information, but it wasn't classified.

1808
01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:36.000
<v Speaker 3>So the reporter.

1809
01:40:35.720 --> 01:40:38.880
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't have If he's invited into that chat, he has

1810
01:40:38.960 --> 01:40:41.159
<v Speaker 4>no responsibility to hang up the phone.

1811
01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:43.840
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna listen and take notes. I would do it.

1812
01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Anybody would do it.

1813
01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:49.479
<v Speaker 2>And look commonplace thing. Well okay, but a commonplace thing.

1814
01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to make one. I just want to say,

1815
01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>what would happen if a bank accidentally deposited a million

1816
01:40:57.039 --> 01:41:00.439
<v Speaker 1>dollars into your account be peep with it? Would they say?

1817
01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:08.039
<v Speaker 1>No big deal? Even though you weren't in the intended recipient.

1818
01:41:09.239 --> 01:41:12.359
<v Speaker 4>You're comparing apples and pliers. You're not even in the

1819
01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:13.159
<v Speaker 4>same fruit root.

1820
01:41:13.720 --> 01:41:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Well you're not.

1821
01:41:14.479 --> 01:41:17.800
<v Speaker 4>There's totally unrelated to what we're discussed. We're talking about

1822
01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:19.439
<v Speaker 4>information to a report.

1823
01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:28.399
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to get. I'll tell you he was

1824
01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:32.319
<v Speaker 1>not one of the intended recipients.

1825
01:41:31.479 --> 01:41:36.279
<v Speaker 4>Okay, but as an unintended intended recipient, they invited him in.

1826
01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:39.439
<v Speaker 2>As somebody who got a deposit like that in a bank.

1827
01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1828
01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, here's the thing about it. You're not

1829
01:41:42.359 --> 01:41:46.199
<v Speaker 2>going to get prosecuted for the deposit because that was

1830
01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:50.520
<v Speaker 2>somebody else's action. That's not your fault. Okay. Uh Now,

1831
01:41:50.560 --> 01:41:54.600
<v Speaker 2>if you take it, what's that? Yeah, if you spend it,

1832
01:41:54.640 --> 01:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>but that's a separate action. You see. If you do

1833
01:41:57.399 --> 01:42:00.159
<v Speaker 2>nothing and it sits there and they go, hey, wait

1834
01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>a minute, we sent this to you incorrectly you're not

1835
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:05.359
<v Speaker 2>in trouble for it being sent to you, you know

1836
01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:05.920
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.

1837
01:42:06.359 --> 01:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>So unless you spend it, yeah right in this case,

1838
01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:12.560
<v Speaker 1>or if you apprehends of the phone call and then

1839
01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>publish it in the national paper.

1840
01:42:15.039 --> 01:42:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But see, listening into the phone call. Listening into

1841
01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:22.239
<v Speaker 2>the phone call wasn't the problem because that's something that

1842
01:42:22.319 --> 01:42:25.239
<v Speaker 2>possibly happened based on the fact that somebody else invited

1843
01:42:25.279 --> 01:42:27.680
<v Speaker 2>him into it. What I'm saying is now when he

1844
01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>published it, this is afterwards, and this is after a

1845
01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:32.680
<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of stuff that's different.

1846
01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Now, do we know that there's no way in hell

1847
01:42:36.359 --> 01:42:39.479
<v Speaker 1>anyone that set up that group intended for him to

1848
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:47.399
<v Speaker 1>join someone subverted just yeah, a someone that was up

1849
01:42:47.439 --> 01:42:48.079
<v Speaker 1>to no good.

1850
01:42:48.159 --> 01:42:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Clearly I was about to explain that, well, I was

1851
01:42:51.079 --> 01:42:55.079
<v Speaker 2>about to explain that without a nefarious motive behind it.

1852
01:42:55.159 --> 01:42:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Because here's what happens with these reporters a lot. And

1853
01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I know this from some experience myself. You get called

1854
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:06.520
<v Speaker 2>into some of these chats sometimes where a government person,

1855
01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>a lawyer or somebody else is informing you about something

1856
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:12.359
<v Speaker 2>that's going on, and they want to inform a group

1857
01:43:12.359 --> 01:43:15.199
<v Speaker 2>of people that are in the media and people that

1858
01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>work for a publication like The Atlantic get called into

1859
01:43:18.039 --> 01:43:22.680
<v Speaker 2>these things all the time by government agency people, by

1860
01:43:22.760 --> 01:43:26.560
<v Speaker 2>like I said, lawyers that are involved in lawsuits, you know,

1861
01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:29.960
<v Speaker 2>famous people that are keeping their you know, communications restricted,

1862
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:34.000
<v Speaker 2>their pr person sets the thing up, whatever, and a

1863
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:37.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of times people get called into them, they get invites,

1864
01:43:37.239 --> 01:43:41.359
<v Speaker 2>they get invited in. Some of these things contain semi

1865
01:43:41.359 --> 01:43:44.560
<v Speaker 2>sensitive information or information they're giving them ahead of time.

1866
01:43:44.600 --> 01:43:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Here's your head's up. We're going to let you know

1867
01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:48.840
<v Speaker 2>about stuff. I mean, I even know about what the

1868
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:52.479
<v Speaker 2>JFK records releases that the CIA turned around and briefed

1869
01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:56.520
<v Speaker 2>members of the media before they release the stuff in

1870
01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:01.000
<v Speaker 2>what was it, twenty twenty two, They turned around and

1871
01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>did that in order to you know, give them the

1872
01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>heads up, here's what's going to come out. And it

1873
01:44:07.640 --> 01:44:11.279
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even technically in the public's hands yet, right, so

1874
01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it hadn't been made public yet, but they were letting

1875
01:44:13.960 --> 01:44:15.520
<v Speaker 2>people in on. By the way, this is what the

1876
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:18.000
<v Speaker 2>CIA has to tell you about what's in the documents.

1877
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<v Speaker 2>Nothing to see here except well maybe this, maybe this.

1878
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<v Speaker 2>They briefed those guys. That's why they were publishing whole

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<v Speaker 2>articles on it. You know, ten minutes after they dropped

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<v Speaker 2>the documents in twenty twenty two, because they had already

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<v Speaker 2>been briefed. Sometimes they get briefings from government agencies about

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<v Speaker 2>benign things about you know, hey, look a disaster happened.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to respond. There's shooting going on in a

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01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:44.000
<v Speaker 2>particular country. There's been a regime change. This is the

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01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:47.920
<v Speaker 2>government's official position on it. We're letting you know, and

1886
01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>that's how they get things out. So this guy could

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<v Speaker 2>have been invited into one hundred chats that week, for

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01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:55.439
<v Speaker 2>all we know, could have been invited on a bunch

1889
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<v Speaker 2>of different group calls and things like this, not just

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01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:03.479
<v Speaker 2>chats but calls, you know, conference calls even because that's

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<v Speaker 2>part of what they do as a reporter. Right. But

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<v Speaker 2>once he realized what was going on there, hey, look

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<v Speaker 2>he said he signed out of it when he realized

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<v Speaker 2>what was happening. I don't know how long it took

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01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:19.520
<v Speaker 2>him to figure it out. And again we could discuss

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<v Speaker 2>that if you like. But somebody who was working for

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<v Speaker 2>one of these guys, and again I don't know clearly

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<v Speaker 2>that it was somebody just you know, part of the

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<v Speaker 2>general government bureaucracy, uh, because I don't know that guy's

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<v Speaker 2>track record, but I would check on it because he

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01:45:32.600 --> 01:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>might be a handpicked assistant for this guy who has

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<v Speaker 2>now lost his job, because obviously this was not the

1903
01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:42.800
<v Speaker 2>right thing to do. But I don't know that I

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01:45:42.840 --> 01:45:46.199
<v Speaker 2>would be so quick to, you know, say that this

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01:45:46.239 --> 01:45:48.239
<v Speaker 2>guy did something wrong. And the reason why he published

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<v Speaker 2>it is because they were making all these statements about

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01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:53.800
<v Speaker 2>it and saying that there was nothing classified, it was

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01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>no big deal anyway. And he kind of said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you're trying to make it sound like I

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<v Speaker 2>snuck in there or something and I'm a liar. Well,

1911
01:46:02.239 --> 01:46:05.000
<v Speaker 2>here's the truth of it. This is actually what I saw,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know. And the other thing is, now we

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<v Speaker 2>got that judge by the way, saying you better preserve

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<v Speaker 2>the records of this, and I think that's correct as well.

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<v Speaker 2>All these records need to be preserved. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know signal signal. I think disappears like a snapchat.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about this judge. This judge is

1918
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<v Speaker 1>a district judge. Yeah, he has no damn business getting

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<v Speaker 1>involved with anything of any national importance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to do something with these clown judges. We

1922
01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:46.560
<v Speaker 1>can't have four thousand little want to be presidents trying

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<v Speaker 1>to interfere with the one true chief executives' policies. This

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<v Speaker 1>is assina. This is exactly what I predicted would happen

1925
01:46:58.239 --> 01:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a year ago. If Trump was elected, all the bureaucracy

1926
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<v Speaker 1>would once again come out of the wood work obstructors agenda,

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01:47:09.279 --> 01:47:14.439
<v Speaker 1>this tang true district judges mostly well, pretty absurd.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look that that is definitely the uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the administration's position. I would say, though that just on

1930
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<v Speaker 2>the subject of preserve the damn records, though it is correct,

1931
01:47:26.279 --> 01:47:28.640
<v Speaker 2>somebody at NARA should say it, but nobody at NARRA

1932
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<v Speaker 2>ever challenges the executive branch and tells them, hey, look,

1933
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<v Speaker 2>preserve this stuff because that's part of the legal process.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though you are the executive, you're not allowed to

1935
01:47:37.760 --> 01:47:42.000
<v Speaker 2>destroy records, so keep them all. That's one of those

1936
01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:44.600
<v Speaker 2>things they're supposed to do. Now, we could talk about

1937
01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:47.920
<v Speaker 2>who violated it, how often, and which executive ever followed it.

1938
01:47:47.960 --> 01:47:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Actually we could talk about that. But the idea that

1939
01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:53.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, he was saying that that would be the

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<v Speaker 2>correct legal position. Now as to whether this guy should

1941
01:47:56.680 --> 01:48:00.840
<v Speaker 2>be saying it or not, another question. But anyway, we're towards.

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<v Speaker 1>The end about that. My understanding is article to the

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<v Speaker 1>president's demand that they can decide what's uh classifyed not classified.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that Judge said he's trying it's not

1945
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<v Speaker 1>about president. No. No, no, it's documents.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, it's not about president.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>The president doesn't have a choice with Yes, I will

1949
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<v Speaker 2>argue that the president doesn't have a choice about preserving

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01:48:33.279 --> 01:48:36.279
<v Speaker 2>the documentation. That's sort of thing they're all supposed to do.

1951
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<v Speaker 2>You know, they are supposed to uphold the laws all ship.

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<v Speaker 1>The president is the shock caller on what's classified and

1953
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<v Speaker 1>what is Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I didn't argue about what's classified. Jimmy, listen again,

1955
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not arguing about what's classified. Please, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make the simple point that he can't destroy records. That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>He's supposed to preserve it all, all of them were

1958
01:49:02.960 --> 01:49:05.760
<v Speaker 2>supposed to. That's got nothing to do with Trump or

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01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:09.439
<v Speaker 2>anybody else or a particular political blah blah. They're all

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01:49:09.479 --> 01:49:12.760
<v Speaker 2>supposed to not destroy their records. They're supposed to preserve

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01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:14.039
<v Speaker 2>the records.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the government record. It's a signal chat okay,

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<v Speaker 1>which which destroys itself after you use it. My understanding is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's what makes it problematic to even use

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<v Speaker 2>the damn thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, will wanted them to use it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there you go another one with Like I said,

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01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:41.880
<v Speaker 2>we can go back and if you want to revisit

1969
01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:43.960
<v Speaker 2>it all we could talk about all the destruction of

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01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the records that should not have occurred under various chief executives.

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<v Speaker 2>But technically speaking, they're all supposed to be if they're

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01:49:52.520 --> 01:49:56.279
<v Speaker 2>doing government business, they're supposed to preserve the records of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a general rule, I know. But anyway, it

1974
01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:03.800
<v Speaker 2>is what it is, and uh, it will be what

1975
01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:05.920
<v Speaker 2>it will be. And we're almost at the end here.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jimmy, you got a final thought for this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it time to go already? Oh? Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Macro, Yeah time.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I just pray for the Obamas and I

1984
01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:34.159
<v Speaker 1>just pray that they get through this rough patch and

1985
01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>their marriage. I know they have them on hell of

1986
01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:40.560
<v Speaker 1>a time. This that and the other thing. You know,

1987
01:50:40.800 --> 01:50:44.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe doctor Phil can help him out. I believe he's

1988
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<v Speaker 1>based out of Chicago. Also, wasn't he in Oprah.

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<v Speaker 2>That is almost you got some great TV and radio ideas. Jimmy,

1990
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<v Speaker 2>you really need to pitch these things to people. I

1991
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:57.399
<v Speaker 2>think you can get paid. Seriously, that would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Phil handles the Obama you know, marriage counseling live

1993
01:51:02.399 --> 01:51:07.199
<v Speaker 2>on pay per view even I think that'd be great anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, yeah, billion dollars. The first president ever

1995
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<v Speaker 1>and first lady to admit they got problems and then

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<v Speaker 1>come out and do diagnosis or whatever you call it

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<v Speaker 1>with a psychiatrist on TV. Oh my goodness. We could

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<v Speaker 1>pay off the national.

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<v Speaker 2>Debt doctor Phil as their marriage counselor and then bring

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<v Speaker 2>in a special guest, whoever the hell is hot doing

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01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:34.319
<v Speaker 2>it now, as the sex counselor. Right, Jimmy, thanks for

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01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:36.880
<v Speaker 2>calling in. Appreciate you, and maybe we'll hear from you

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<v Speaker 2>later during the Uncle Show. I think we will hear

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01:51:40.239 --> 01:51:41.920
<v Speaker 2>from you then because we're going to be discussing the

2005
01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl bets at eleven PM. But until then, b Pete,

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01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:47.560
<v Speaker 2>you got a final thought for the week.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, all I.

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<v Speaker 4>Can say is I must really have been way up

2009
01:51:51.439 --> 01:51:54.039
<v Speaker 4>in the mountains because I didn't realize that Barack and

2010
01:51:54.079 --> 01:51:55.560
<v Speaker 4>Big Mike were having problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's the look. I don't buy that story,

2012
01:52:00.439 --> 01:52:03.000
<v Speaker 2>but it floated for a little while in extreme right

2013
01:52:03.039 --> 01:52:06.520
<v Speaker 2>wing circles and in trash you know, in trash media

2014
01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:09.279
<v Speaker 2>circles that they're supposedly getting divorced because he's having an

2015
01:52:09.319 --> 01:52:12.319
<v Speaker 2>affair with Damn. I forget who the famous person is.

2016
01:52:12.359 --> 01:52:13.840
<v Speaker 2>He's supposed to be having an affair.

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<v Speaker 3>Honist And I did hear it that far? There you go,

2018
01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:19.079
<v Speaker 3>supposedly got food food. But yeah, how do we know

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01:52:19.159 --> 01:52:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Big Mike's not carrying on with somebody? Well back now,

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01:52:22.520 --> 01:52:23.560
<v Speaker 3>we need to look into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy, See, we do need to look into that. And

2022
01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I say, Jimmy has the right idea. Doctor Phil sounds

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01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:33.640
<v Speaker 2>just about right, bpe right.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if i'd go with doctor Phil. Maybe

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01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:39.000
<v Speaker 3>what was it, doctor.

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01:52:38.760 --> 01:52:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Laurel Oh, doctor too bad? Ruth Westheim out is dead? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe you'll find your answers on the internet anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>But is that shinging noise one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of those stealth helicopters with computerized noise cancelation capability?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're still working the chains out.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow, do you know about stealth?

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<v Speaker 4>Help all dot conspiracy dot black dot helicopters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I'll tell you what that dang old internet

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01:53:10.119 --> 01:53:11.960
<v Speaker 2>mane just going on there and point and click getting

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<v Speaker 2>into talking about ww dot com. You got naked chicks

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<v Speaker 2>on there, man, you go.

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<v Speaker 7>Click click, click, clicklicklick clicklickiate it's real lazy man, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how you find your information on the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's about Big Mike or Little Barack or Barry

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01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:29.640
<v Speaker 2>or anybody else. Be Pete, I thank you for co

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<v Speaker 2>hosting this with me, and as for the rest of you,

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<v Speaker 2>stay tuned for the Age of Transitions coming up next.

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<v Speaker 2>I am merely O'Kelly. All of you are indeed the

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<v Speaker 2>effect chip in at o'chelly dot com. And also I

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01:53:43.079 --> 01:53:45.439
<v Speaker 2>didn't get to get it get with you, Bpete about

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<v Speaker 2>cutting of the food bank support from the government this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll cover that next week because I know you

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<v Speaker 2>always mentioned the food banks before we get out of here,

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01:53:53.920 --> 01:53:57.880
<v Speaker 2>but we're out of time this time. Maybe next time

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<v Speaker 2>we get together and hopefully you'll
