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<v Speaker 1>Lilah Lovely my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where you can find her at Lilah Underscore Lovely or

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<v Speaker 1>check out all our links on onlylila dot com links

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<v Speaker 1>to everything in the episode description. As always, please make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you support content creators that come on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise they don't come on anymore. Lila, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming on tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me start with the basic boring where it always begins.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you initially decide to get into the adult

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry in whatever form it was with us stripping camming,

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<v Speaker 1>you went right into shooting gang bang scenes, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you make your entrance from the quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>vanilla world into the world you work in now.

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<v Speaker 3>I got into this in a transition period of my life,

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<v Speaker 3>and I got into it later in life.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thirty five years old when I began.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that time I was out of like kind

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<v Speaker 3>of freshly out of a divorce, and I was I

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<v Speaker 3>had moved from the Midwest back to the West Coast,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was a single mom, and I was like

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<v Speaker 3>needing some work, needing some pickup work because it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>out there right, And I worked in the spa industry

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<v Speaker 3>previous to this. I was a massage therapist an esthetician

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<v Speaker 3>and I did that for over fifteen years. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was just kind of looking for like massages, like some

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<v Speaker 3>gigs that I could kind of like do to fill

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<v Speaker 3>in and get a little bit cash here and there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was came across an ad on Craigslist and

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<v Speaker 3>it was said models wanted any age, any size.

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<v Speaker 2>Piqued my interest.

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<v Speaker 3>I was already kind of sewing my wild outs, doing

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of like fet life thing and just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like just kind of figuring out what I liked.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went and I did. I talked to these people.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a couple and they were out of like

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<v Speaker 3>southern California. I was in San Diego at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I went to their house and they were shooting

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<v Speaker 3>BBW fetish clips. I didn't even know what BBW meant

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<v Speaker 3>seeing about anything, but I did some clips, like some

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<v Speaker 3>solo stuff, some just like really simple stuff. And then

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<v Speaker 3>like I went there a few different times and they

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<v Speaker 3>are basically like I think you should like you're really

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<v Speaker 3>good at this, you should like do this, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, I'm sure, you say that to everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, But yeah, that was my beginning and it

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<v Speaker 3>really just kind of took off really quick after that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask, and this is not not to

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<v Speaker 1>poke holes at all. The Craigslist d said any size,

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<v Speaker 1>But then you got there and it was a BBW. Shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>what if it was like a ninety five pound girl

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<v Speaker 1>coming going it said any size?

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<v Speaker 3>Well I did, so I did speak to her ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of time, so we did go over some of those details.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me okay, all right, I'm a I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger guy, right, I've always been. Does it offend you

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<v Speaker 1>if someone says BBW at all? I wouldn't think it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a classification, but it's you know, beautiful is in

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<v Speaker 1>the name, Like are you you cool with that niche

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<v Speaker 1>or fetish or yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's different like avenues to people's appreciations. Some people

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<v Speaker 3>really get into like like the fat fetish and like

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<v Speaker 3>the like feeding and like all of that stuff. And

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<v Speaker 3>then some people just like appreciate a full figured woman totally,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So there's like a lot of variables there.

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<v Speaker 3>And to be honest, when I started doing that, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know that men appreciated women of size I thought

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<v Speaker 3>y'all just wanted skinny girls.

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<v Speaker 2>I really didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand that there was a whole, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>category of men that like appreciated this. So it really

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<v Speaker 3>opened my eyes and started to make me feel so

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<v Speaker 3>much more comfortable with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's actually really encouraging to hear. I've heard so

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<v Speaker 1>many times that the adult industry or porn or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>has given. I am blown away by the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>women I interview who have just been in the most

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, out there crazy scenes and I go, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you must be a serious extrovert, and they go, oh, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a total introvert. I like to stay at home

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<v Speaker 1>and this and that. Is that your personality at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Or no, No, I'm a little bit of both. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like a happy medium. I like, I like a prop

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm older and I like to just be in

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<v Speaker 1>the house. But like when I was younger, I like

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<v Speaker 1>to be outside and I like to like be out

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<v Speaker 1>there doing stuff, and I do. I like, I can

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<v Speaker 1>only be in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Along and I'm like, all right, I need to get

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<v Speaker 3>out and I need to see people and socialize. And

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<v Speaker 3>I go to the gym, every day, so I at

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<v Speaker 3>least do that, but like no, I would say, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a combo both.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough. When you initially got into this, it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because your previous career it seems related, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not related. So my question was going to be what

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<v Speaker 1>did you take from your previous career into this? And

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, and I'm wondering, is it sensuality, is

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<v Speaker 1>it being able to set the mood, like what did

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<v Speaker 1>you take from the missus and esthetician and all of

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<v Speaker 1>that world into the adult world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that in combination with me being a theater girl,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know you've heard that a few times too

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<v Speaker 3>during interviews, so it's satisfied a lot of my interests already.

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<v Speaker 3>Being comfortable with bodies on nudity is I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>think twice about it. You know, bodies are bodies, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen so many different body types being a body

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<v Speaker 3>worker and a massage therapist that going into sex work

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<v Speaker 3>just just felt really natural.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wasn't like put.

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<v Speaker 3>Off by any of that, like ooh, like you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, look at him kind of you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's just it really kind of felt like

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<v Speaker 3>a natural thing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, and I guess you also take with

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<v Speaker 1>you there is yes, bodies, nudity, this and that, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's a professionalism that comes with that as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are people, most likely men, who get

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<v Speaker 1>into this industry and like, not all of them at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying there's a couple or a few probably who

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<v Speaker 1>get in and be like that's a free for all. That. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a business. This is a job, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, this is how you pay

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<v Speaker 1>your bills, and this is how this guy pays his bills.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking do the job or don't pay your bills, I guess, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you. You said you had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>out of a relationship and then got into this industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this just a one eighty from your personality prior

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<v Speaker 1>to that or had you always been like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>flirty or I sound like a ninety year old man

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<v Speaker 1>when I say promiscuous, but I think you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Had it been like that? Or if someone

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<v Speaker 1>who knew you ten years ago saw you doing what

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<v Speaker 1>you do now, would they be like, what the fuck happened?

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<v Speaker 2>What she?

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<v Speaker 1>What is she doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think that they probably are shocked by it.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't like the I didn't date a lot. I

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<v Speaker 3>always had like long term boyfriend friends, and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Always like that girl.

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<v Speaker 3>And but I've always been very outspoken and I've always

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<v Speaker 3>done like theater and public speaking and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think they might see it and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it though, you know, shocked, but like mmmm, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>So I also do a sideshow that I interview new

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<v Speaker 1>girls coming into the industry. And I spoke to a

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<v Speaker 1>girl last night and number one thing she hates and

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<v Speaker 1>can't stand is all of the acting prior to the

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<v Speaker 1>actual scene shooting, you know, the action. I'm thinking, you

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<v Speaker 1>love that aspect the right.

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<v Speaker 2>I do love it. I do love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm happy when I get booked for like a

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<v Speaker 3>scene and I get to use that part of me.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, what are your favorite roles to play?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm usually thrown into a milf type like

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<v Speaker 3>mommy roll, so I mean that can be fun. You can,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just have have a lot of creative liberty

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<v Speaker 3>with that. I mean I've played a lot of little

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<v Speaker 3>silly things. I've worn like prosthetic pregnancy suits. I've done,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, naughty Secretary before. I don't know so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any role that you really want to dig

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<v Speaker 1>your teeth into and like learn, Like do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to play like I don't know, a general contractor and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to come in and set all the contracts

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<v Speaker 1>while being fucked obviously, but you have to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's on time, and you're calling people and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get Johnson over here. He's got to connect

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<v Speaker 1>the point. Okay, I'm getting fucked told on. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have Do you have any like grand ambitions or anything

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<v Speaker 1>of that for a role to play in this industry?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever shot a feature too? Can I guess that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I've done like a future per se.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I've shot for brawsers a good number of times,

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<v Speaker 3>Reality Kings score quite a few companies. Sure, so a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of those, like ad scenes that are on porn Hub.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure you'll see that running across. So there's that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to I like to be a mommy dom.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to I like to get into like my

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<v Speaker 3>femdom side of me. So I'd love to get onto

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<v Speaker 3>a pro femdom set and really kind of show that

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<v Speaker 3>part off more.

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<v Speaker 1>I see a lot of people that get into femdom

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<v Speaker 1>again more from the new side, the girls getting in,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's almost like they look at that like it's

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no offense to them and they will learn eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>but they look at it almost like that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the easy way to go in, Like I'll come in

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll just be mean to guys and I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>this and that. Then I've talked to real femdoms and

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<v Speaker 1>real people who have experienced in this. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you're an actress, so you do have the ability.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem very sweet. Do you have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>get tough with a guy and fucking put them? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Midwest thing in you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, definitely am Midwest nice. That's still in me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I one of the downfalls of being in the

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<v Speaker 3>industry is you see a really ugly side of and

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<v Speaker 3>a nasty side of like people, and you have to

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<v Speaker 3>start to put down some really firm boundaries and you

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<v Speaker 3>can't be afraid of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really important.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've really learned how to use that voice and

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<v Speaker 3>be really confident in studying really firm boundaries, and with

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<v Speaker 3>that confidence in those boundaries, some men really get turned

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<v Speaker 3>on by that and they really like that. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>where that dominant side could come out even more so.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you what one or two boundaries you

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<v Speaker 1>may have added since you started in the industry. Is

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there's certain sex acts that I started out doing,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing that right now. That's for that's for

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<v Speaker 3>my home life, you know, save some stuff for home.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just have learned to like be okay with

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<v Speaker 3>putting those personal boundaries down. And some fans might get annoyed,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sure, sure, now is that a okay? On anal?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a firm boundary like you are not going

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just not doing it right now, so I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do solo or if it was like a girl girl something, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm just not doing boy girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Ana totally totally? Is that okay? All right? Yeah, no

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. Can I guess what was your first

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<v Speaker 1>boy girl shoot and how different did it feel to

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<v Speaker 1>you than the modeling shoots you had done early on

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<v Speaker 1>where you knew like this was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was with that first couple that I

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right? How long did it take you to

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<v Speaker 1>become comfortable in front of the camera or I guess

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<v Speaker 1>with your theater background, were you always I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That wasn't really a ca I mean that was or

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, that was an audience, so yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm familiar, I'm comfortable in front of people and audiences.

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<v Speaker 1>No tension or nerves when you were gonna do those

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, of course, a little bit of like natural nerves,

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<v Speaker 3>but nothing like nothing crazy. I had some really great,

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<v Speaker 3>like first experiences with sets and stuff, and they just

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<v Speaker 3>make you make sure you feel really comfortable, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>I wily ask you to call anyone out by name, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've been on some good sets, I can assume,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I assume anyone who's been in the industry this

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<v Speaker 1>long has been on some bad sets as well. What

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<v Speaker 1>And what can a bad set do to turn it

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<v Speaker 1>little simple fixes that drive you fucking nuts on a

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<v Speaker 1>bad set?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, let me just think about how.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about what. Yeah, totally, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Having the right amenities is huge, and having clean amenities

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to houses that are it's a shoot house.

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<v Speaker 3>In the bathroom is nasty, showers grow like you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to touch a shower curtain.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like, come on, that's like the most easy

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<v Speaker 2>thing you could.

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<v Speaker 3>Do, you know, is go to wall. Even if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a big budget, you can fake it. You

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<v Speaker 3>can fake it till you make it. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Go get a two dollars fresh shower liner for these girls.

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<v Speaker 3>That's easy, you know what I mean? Just like really

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<v Speaker 3>simple things, just upgrading the furniture that you use. We

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<v Speaker 3>all know that it's being used over and over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again. If it's an upholstery situation, swap it out,

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<v Speaker 3>swap it out. It's really not that hard. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all just little things like that to make a

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<v Speaker 3>big difference when you're going on sets.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally totally gross. But okay, I can't really ask it

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<v Speaker 1>then because then it might get too specific. I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask what the worst set you

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<v Speaker 1>were on, but you just described I mean pretty much what.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would just be kind of a generalization of

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<v Speaker 3>some like not great conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, totally fair. Uh, let me ask you what is

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<v Speaker 1>the most challenging shoot you've been a part of. Not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily it's negative challenging for you, whether you were worried

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<v Speaker 1>about handling the male talent, whether it was too many,

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<v Speaker 1>if if you had concerns about wardrobe or anything like that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the most challenging time you've had in this industry,

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<v Speaker 1>and then again not necessarily negative at all, just like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is going to be some.

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe the one I always bring that one

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<v Speaker 3>up with the press, the wearing the pregnancy like a

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<v Speaker 3>cross sthetic, because there was a lot of like parks

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<v Speaker 3>to that scene.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like they wanted, you know, squirting.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've got this suit on and there was like

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people in the scene, so it was

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot of moving parts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all I would have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>But overall, I don't do a lot of group scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've always been independent. I don't have an agent

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<v Speaker 3>that books my scenes for me, so I'm really been

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<v Speaker 3>in control of everything that I've been a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, if I go to your Only Fans

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, for the people listening, it's at Lilah

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<v Speaker 1>Underscore Lovely, sign up for that x x X oh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah the U yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you them.

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<v Speaker 2>There's two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two of them. But I'm sending people. You go

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<v Speaker 1>pay for it, folks. Okay, if you're listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>right now, you're getting this for free, so go pay

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Okay, just go do that. If I sign

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<v Speaker 1>up for your only fans. What am I going to see?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I get?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the daily updates of your life? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>like more personal feel is it more polished like once

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<v Speaker 1>a month we put out this big video. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any like structure to your only fans or is

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of what you're feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, there's quite a bit of structure to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get more of a personalized experience.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to like sex and chat, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>there online to second do all that. Some people don't

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<v Speaker 3>know exactly what they're looking for, Like they want a video,

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<v Speaker 3>but they can't you know, they don't know what They

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<v Speaker 3>don't maybe know my library of content yet, so I

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<v Speaker 3>can help guide them through, like hey, let me put

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<v Speaker 3>together a bundle, or you know, I think you might

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<v Speaker 3>like this, or what are you into? So it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more personalized experience than if you were just going

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<v Speaker 3>to subscribe to like the website or buy a video

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<v Speaker 3>off of many VIDs or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, okay, all right, but what kind of Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're directing them and stuff like that. What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>content content?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you producing? I mean, is it like again like

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<v Speaker 1>daily weekly pictures or like say, I'm going through my

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<v Speaker 1>timeline right now. There's Lilah looks great as always, and

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<v Speaker 1>what am I saying?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a little bit of everything, daily updated photos. I

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<v Speaker 3>do Boy Girl videos, so I don't do a ton

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<v Speaker 3>of those during the year anymore so.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've I've been ramping it up lately.

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<v Speaker 3>So right now it's kind of been like once a

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<v Speaker 3>month there's a new boy Girl video coming in between

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<v Speaker 3>that solo stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, guys just love solo stuff, whether.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a joy or a shower video or something of

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<v Speaker 3>just me like seductively stripping, okay, side dishes.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I dabble in all kinds of different stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Give more variety.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be such a stupid question. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you keep talking during solo videos? I feel I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I host a show. I've done two hundred episodes of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if I had to, like dirty, I

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<v Speaker 1>would get to about thirty seconds in and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>what else do you guys want?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you just keep it going?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Sometimes I do have to like look at other

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<v Speaker 3>stuff to get a little bit of inspiration. Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I've said this so many times over and over, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>chat GPT helpful, and it's actually an adult version of

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<v Speaker 3>that that you can say like, hey, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>create this video this kind of like the tone that

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be, and they'll like, it'll write up

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<v Speaker 3>like a script for you. It's really cool. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>tools to help you come up with it. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, you just kind of like, after a while, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of becomes second nature. You're just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll move into the com talk over here and blah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, uh okay. Do you have any personal turn

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<v Speaker 1>ons that you would like to incorporate more into your content?

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<v Speaker 1>I assume you shoot what you like. I know every

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<v Speaker 1>girl I've interviewed kind of has a thing of I

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<v Speaker 1>shoot the content I like, and then I shoot what

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<v Speaker 1>also makes money over here and whatever. But is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything you've either yet to do, or if you've only

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<v Speaker 1>dipped your toe in where it's a niche or a

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<v Speaker 1>fetish or something you want to explore possibly going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>I did just shoot with brick Zilla, so he was

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<v Speaker 3>someone who I've been wanting to shoot with for my fans.

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<v Speaker 3>I've shot with some other like big guys in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>and then, like I said, I had take it a

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<v Speaker 3>little slow down on hardcore content, and now I'm ramping

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<v Speaker 3>back up. So I feel like I've also had body

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<v Speaker 3>changes over the years too, and a lot of new fans,

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<v Speaker 3>and with these body changes, so I wanted to show

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<v Speaker 3>them what I still can do, not what I used

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<v Speaker 3>to do. So that's why I'm starting to life put

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<v Speaker 3>myself back out there and be like, yeah, I do

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<v Speaker 3>still do this and I am still that girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I give you a compliment? That's gonna sound like

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<v Speaker 1>an insult, and I am not good with women, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna sound really stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's have it.

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<v Speaker 1>The glow up on your hair? Since are there some

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<v Speaker 1>of the early scenes? Yeah, beautiful. There was one I

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<v Speaker 1>saw and you still look hot and you still look gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it was a great scene, but I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a Wisconsin haircut. Speaking as a guy from

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, Okay, that is a whisk content haircut. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen I also snuck around and saw your

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<v Speaker 1>workout either Instagram or Twitter. I forget which one it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you bust your ass and you know you

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<v Speaker 1>always look good, but you're right, everything has tightened up.

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<v Speaker 1>You look awesome. You look incredible. Do you feel better?

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<v Speaker 3>So much better? So much better. I'm such a healthier

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<v Speaker 3>version of myself than I was when I began in

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<v Speaker 3>this industry.

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<v Speaker 2>I get.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I began as like a bigger girl, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's where like a lot of my fans come from.

425
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<v Speaker 3>But I honestly do get offended when they're like I

426
00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.680
<v Speaker 3>get fans are like, M, I respect you working out,

427
00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:47.319
<v Speaker 3>but I liked you better before, And I'm like, bro, like,

428
00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:49.319
<v Speaker 3>that's not sustainable.

429
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<v Speaker 2>It's not sustainable.

430
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<v Speaker 3>I'm older, I can't I can't carry weight like that

431
00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:57.240
<v Speaker 3>and be a healthy person.

432
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm such a better version of myself. So it

433
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.440
<v Speaker 2>is what it is. But yeah, thank you.

434
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<v Speaker 1>You know the greatest example of that. I interviewed her

435
00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago, Dee d White formally Sekah Black,

436
00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:16.319
<v Speaker 1>seventy one years old, in infinitely better shape than I

437
00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:19.519
<v Speaker 1>am right now. Love, She's so cool, She's just the

438
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<v Speaker 1>greatest personality. I'll give you a little behind the scenes

439
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:26.079
<v Speaker 1>scoop on this. It was so cute her and a

440
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.559
<v Speaker 1>gentleman that was helping her. I don't know what to say, Uh,

441
00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>we're doing the zoom thing beforehand They're like, I can't

442
00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:35.799
<v Speaker 1>get the screen to be full. And I was just like, yo,

443
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<v Speaker 1>this is like my grandma, but she fucks a whole

444
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<v Speaker 1>bunch of dudes all the time. Good for her.

445
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I ran into I had a couple family members.

446
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<v Speaker 3>I have a couple of cousins that I'm really close with,

447
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:50.720
<v Speaker 3>and I brought them to an event down here in

448
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Speaker 3>South Beach and she was at the event and we

449
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:57.599
<v Speaker 3>had a room one night at the Ritz Carlton and

450
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<v Speaker 3>she's there hanging out and they're like, wow, look at

451
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.480
<v Speaker 3>that woman, like they had no anything.

452
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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yo, shit that, let me tell

453
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.079
<v Speaker 2>you about that. They couldn't believe it.

454
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<v Speaker 1>That is so funny. What did you did you just think?

455
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if this is too personal, please it's so funny.

456
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.559
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk all day about so have you been gang banged?

457
00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. If this is too personal, please stop

458
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<v Speaker 1>me to change the diet, just tight the gym more.

459
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<v Speaker 1>I lost about seventy pounds last year because someone told

460
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<v Speaker 1>me I couldn't fuck it, and it was it was. Yes,

461
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the back feels better, the fucking everything. You don't cramp

462
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>up all the time, the knees don't hurt. What did

463
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you do to change your lifestyle?

464
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so COVID either made you or break or you know,

465
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<v Speaker 3>it was like make it or break it kind of situations.

466
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<v Speaker 3>So I kind of like got into my health and

467
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<v Speaker 3>I started like working out.

468
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<v Speaker 2>I got a trainer, and then.

469
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:06.200
<v Speaker 3>I decided to go get mommy makeover. So I did

470
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<v Speaker 3>have a tummy tuck and I got a BBL and

471
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 3>that just continue to motivate me. And I see a

472
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<v Speaker 3>lot of women getting their bodies done and then they

473
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<v Speaker 3>don't like maintain it.

474
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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't look great. I really didn't want them, Like,

475
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:27.400
<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to do this, I want to look good.

476
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I want it to like look right.

477
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:30.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

478
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<v Speaker 3>I want to take care of myself. So I've just

479
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.119
<v Speaker 3>been super committed and staying in the gym. And again,

480
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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting older and I I don't want someone to

481
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<v Speaker 3>have to take care of me. I don't want to

482
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<v Speaker 3>have to use a device to get around when I'm

483
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<v Speaker 3>eighty years old. I want to have a strong body

484
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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of my life.

485
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<v Speaker 1>You want to be D. D. White exactly, still working

486
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<v Speaker 1>in your seventies. I can't imagine I'm going to be

487
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<v Speaker 1>dead before seventy one and she's out there fucking doing

488
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 1>gang bangs and stuff. You Okay, this is gonna be

489
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>really awkward if you got into like a big fight

490
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:12.279
<v Speaker 1>with her yesterday and you're not friends anymore. Maybe you're

491
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>not friends, I don't know. Maybe you just work together.

492
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I have seen you at Exotica. I believe with Sarah Ja. Yep,

493
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.559
<v Speaker 1>m Sarah Jay agreed to come on this show when

494
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I had two episodes in I had like no followers,

495
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 1>no listeners. She sat with me for an hour. She talked,

496
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.799
<v Speaker 1>great conversation. She seems like you didn't get in a

497
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>huge fight with her and you hate her now right? No, okay, good.

498
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>She seems like a giving person in this industry. Have

499
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you only worked with her a little bit or is

500
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>she someone that like has helped you at all through

501
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>this or.

502
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 3>Sit we've got I've worked I have one scene with her,

503
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:59.079
<v Speaker 3>and we had met like at an awards show, I

504
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 3>think initially, and then now we have a lot of

505
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 3>mutual friends. So that has brought us closer in the

506
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 3>last few years.

507
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, is there anyone that you consider, like,

508
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a mentor, but is there anyone in the

509
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>industry you kind of look up to and you're like,

510
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to do more what they're doing, or I

511
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 1>want to ask them how they're doing this, or I

512
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>think this is interesting that they did.

513
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 3>My good friend Sophia Rose, She's always been somebody that

514
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.119
<v Speaker 3>I've looked up to and try to kind of model

515
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:47.240
<v Speaker 3>my career after how she's kind of operated. So I

516
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 3>really I was like, I like how she's kind of

517
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.640
<v Speaker 3>set the tone for things. I like the boundaries that

518
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 3>she set. She's We're very similar people.

519
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, what what kind of Oh you know what,

520
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do a little thing I do called stat check.

521
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>So these numbers are going to be wrong. I'm just

522
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 1>putting that out there right now. This is from the

523
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Internet Adult Film Database. I just like using it as

524
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of a milestone or a checkpoint. These are the

525
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>stats that are on your career right now, and then

526
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.759
<v Speaker 1>a year from now, we'll look at it and you'll

527
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 1>be drowning in Avian Awards and we'll just go remember

528
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>when that was it? Oh boy? So for scenes, I

529
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.759
<v Speaker 1>have that you have shot one hundred and thirty seven scenes. Guys,

530
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you've worked with forty one girls. You've worked with twenty

531
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>nine nominations for Avian Awards. I apologize seven because you

532
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>have other wins. No wins yet? Is that correct for Avian? No,

533
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>they're tough, man, They're real tough.

534
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:56.079
<v Speaker 3>It's you gotta be bringing in money to them, fair enough?

535
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how do you bring money into them?

536
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 2>There's so many different ways?

537
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.839
<v Speaker 1>Is it shootings? I don't even know.

538
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, I can't really say specifically, and I don't

539
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.119
<v Speaker 3>want to, gotcha.

540
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally fair. Okay, Well they should, they should recognize

541
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:22.359
<v Speaker 1>people like you. I'll just put it that way. So

542
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the future. Where do you see this

543
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>career going. Do you have a cutoff point where you go,

544
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I've made this much money, I'm ready to move on

545
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>to a new venture. Obviously, I'm just saying from your

546
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>standpoint here, no way to predict where it goes. Are

547
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.759
<v Speaker 1>you like, if I do this and I just get

548
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>tired of it one day, I'm okay, just walking away?

549
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be doing this until you're eighty

550
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>years old? Like D D. White? As we said, what

551
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>is your plan going forward in this industry?

552
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Right now?

553
00:30:55.640 --> 00:31:00.519
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of possibilities with AI as

554
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.359
<v Speaker 3>I get older, I don't always. Lilah can live on

555
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.519
<v Speaker 3>forever in my eyes, and I can always monetize off

556
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 3>of Lilah lovely, and she could be legacy down to

557
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>my children, you know what I mean. So I feel

558
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 3>like I've put in so much into this now I

559
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 3>have such a huge library of content. I'm continuing to

560
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Speaker 3>do that. I still feel great as a performer. I'll

561
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 3>continue to do that until I don't feel great, and

562
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 3>when it naturally feels like maybe I'm going to like taper.

563
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Back off, you know what I mean.

564
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 3>So I don't necessarily have like a specific plan. I'm

565
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:50.599
<v Speaker 3>very much like, let's kind of to see how things

566
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:54.000
<v Speaker 3>go and how I feel. And I feel that I

567
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 3>actually have that freedom to do that with this.

568
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.039
<v Speaker 1>I like that that you embrace the AI thing, because

569
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I have a more pessimistic view. My concern

570
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>is they go to these well, whatever they are, some

571
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 1>of them aren't even like Schoot mainstream stuff or anything.

572
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Ten million followers, twenty million followers on Instagram, and they

573
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 1>just go sell us your rights and you don't ever

574
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 1>have to do anything again. We'll just make it. Yeah,

575
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I think you will still benefit from that. You obviously

576
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>are big enough but I wonder if that's going to

577
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>screw over newer people coming in or people who are

578
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>more like, not in a negative way, in like more

579
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.799
<v Speaker 1>of a mid tier, you know, where they're not the

580
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.519
<v Speaker 1>most popular person, but they're also not a newbie or

581
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>anything like that.

582
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:41.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. So.

583
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:47.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that there's still men that don't want that,

584
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 3>that actually want real like. I think the more we

585
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 3>get that, the more people are going to crave actual

586
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 3>human connection and seek that out. So I think that

587
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 3>you're going to have both. Some guys don't care. I mean,

588
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 3>you see these Instagram accounts that are AI women and

589
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 3>they got tons of love followers.

590
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 2>They don't care. They don't care. He's a hot she's

591
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>a hot female form. That's all they care. So I

592
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know, you know what I mean. I can be

593
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>a pessimist about it too, but I'm trying to look

594
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.839
<v Speaker 2>at it in ways that I can use it for myself,

595
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>and it's not going to go away.

596
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>So sure, I think. Yeah, Like I said, I think

597
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:38.519
<v Speaker 1>you're going to totally be fine. And you have a

598
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, catalog, like you've talked about of stuff that

599
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you could draw from that if you want it to.

600
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's our studios, and I'm not asking you

601
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk bad about it. I only know because I've

602
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>seen it on Twitter a few times. Are studios trying

603
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 1>to get people to sign away their rights as well

604
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to some of those things.

605
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:59.599
<v Speaker 3>I haven't a thing yet, so I'm not a huge

606
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't work in studios constantly to like hear those things,

607
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 3>so I'm not really sure.

608
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha? I think, like I said, I mean, yes,

609
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll be an optimist with you and say it'll be

610
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:15.159
<v Speaker 1>better and this and that. I think I think those

611
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>mid tier girls will get hurt a little bit in

612
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that possibly possibly new girls. Everyone always wants to see

613
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>someone new coming in or whatever. Established stars like yourself,

614
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 1>but who knows. None of us actually know what's going

615
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 1>to happen.

616
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, it's a mystery.

617
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 1>This is a weird question, especially because you said you

618
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 1>can shoot a bunch of group scenes. But I always

619
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>ask this, what constitutes a gang bang to you? How

620
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 1>many people constitution this is contentious?

621
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:48.159
<v Speaker 3>By the way, it is because I have one that

622
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:52.679
<v Speaker 3>I sell as a gang bang, but it's with three guys. Now,

623
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 3>some would say that's not that is not a gang bang.

624
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I think I think they say four is the minimum.

625
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>What do you think I would say? Three? Okay, By

626
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the way, if people go back in previous episodes, you'll

627
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>hear me being like, nothing less than five as you're

628
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.079
<v Speaker 1>saying it. No, I think three is entirely reasonable. It's

629
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:16.800
<v Speaker 1>not a threesome. It's a step up from that.

630
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And they're really not the easiest to coordinate on

631
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.719
<v Speaker 3>your on your own. It's really not easy to find

632
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of guys. It isn't It's not an easy thing.

633
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 3>So I had more planned for that day, but three

634
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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We ended up with.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, oh what I mean? It is just people bailing

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<v Speaker 1>at the last minute? Or do people get cold feet

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry. It was like during.

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<v Speaker 3>Like expis Miami, like years ago, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the guys are in and out of the

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<v Speaker 3>room and like, yeah, I'll do it, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>was like taking forever to do all the paperwork and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and by the time like we get to it,

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<v Speaker 3>oh he left or he you know, it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>That Hut.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you realize that so much of the it's so

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the paperwork there. I always ask this question too,

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<v Speaker 1>Did you realize that like five percent of this job

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<v Speaker 1>was having sex and the rest was everything else that

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<v Speaker 1>comes with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean I don't think most people don't

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<v Speaker 3>realize that because it is it's just it's you're barely

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<v Speaker 3>fucking compared to what you think, you know, it's everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, totally ignorant outside perspective. I go, oh, Lila goes in,

655
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<v Speaker 1>she has sex with the guys, she comes home, she

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<v Speaker 1>gets paid, you know, forty million dollars, and everything's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Like guys from the outside probably see that and go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>triple anal. Yeah, definitely made about forty million on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume, not quite like that, right, You show up,

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<v Speaker 1>sign a bunch of papers, Yeah, start having sex and

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<v Speaker 1>one position, pause, move the camera, move lighting, if possible,

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<v Speaker 1>do it again for Is that kind of the gist

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<v Speaker 1>of like I understand and you say you don't work

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<v Speaker 1>in a ton of mainstream as much anymore, But is

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of the gist of what a being on

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<v Speaker 1>a porn set is?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like mechanical like that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously there's like you know, joking and passion

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. I'm not saying like everyone's a Russian robot person,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, is it a little more like we got

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<v Speaker 1>to go through this step now and we got to

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<v Speaker 1>do this.

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<v Speaker 3>It depends on the company because some companies are very

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<v Speaker 3>specific and they have key shots that they need to grab,

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<v Speaker 3>so they have to make sure, oh, we got to

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<v Speaker 3>get this key shot, and then they'll get it from

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<v Speaker 3>like multiple angles, so you're gonna get You're gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>over that shot a bunch of times. So sometimes yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it can It can just be like I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>this that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's so cool though.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, last question I have for you, and this

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<v Speaker 1>one is also contentious and surprises me the answers I get.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a person who got into the industry a little

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<v Speaker 1>not later in life, not like sake of Black Dedie White,

686
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<v Speaker 1>but little later in life than the girl that gets

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<v Speaker 1>in at nineteen or whatever. Right, Yeah, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>age that people should be able to get into porn?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think they should be able to do it

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<v Speaker 3>at eighteen? Okay, you're an adult. Then, sure, you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>an adult. Will I work with an eighteen year old? No,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not comfortable with that. I understand there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of growth in maturing that that needs to happen for

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<v Speaker 3>them to make some like real good decisions in life decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>So but I also know that like some people come

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<v Speaker 3>from like really shitty backgrounds, and sex work is a

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<v Speaker 3>means of them being able to get away from that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So some girls.

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<v Speaker 3>It really like it helps them survive and it helps

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<v Speaker 3>pull them out of really bad situations.

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<v Speaker 1>So I totally get that too. The conversation I've been

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<v Speaker 1>having around that is I've always said this, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>old enough to go die in war somewhere at eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're old enough to shoot porn, Like, come on, get

707
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<v Speaker 1>the fuck if you can go, get the death penalty,

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<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to shoot porn. But the more and more

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<v Speaker 1>performers I talk to, so many of them, some of

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<v Speaker 1>them got in at eighteen, I'll say, twenty one, do

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. I understand what you're saying too. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to take away someone's ability to make money. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not But the other problem with it is number doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really account for it, because there's eighteen year olds who

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<v Speaker 1>are so wise and smart and have their shit down,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's forty year olds who have no fucking idea

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. Right, completely, So it's tough. It's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what I liked, and again I don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a shit. Do whatever you want as long as there's

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<v Speaker 1>no dogs or kids in the room. I don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a fuck what you do if you're an adult. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think a nice little mid ground I've been

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<v Speaker 1>finding with mainstream performers lately is maybe eighteen to twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>You do cam stuff or solo stuff or this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>get a little business experience under your belt, Understand what

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<v Speaker 1>your worth is, what your worth would be for shooting scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then hey, you hit twenty one, you go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be a better progression of things.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, I don't care. At the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, do what you want to do if you're legal. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Shay up, ladies and gentlemen. My guest tonight, Lilah Lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find her at Onlylilah dot com, and most importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know exactly where you can find her only fans

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<v Speaker 1>at Lilah Underscore Lovely links to everything in the episode description,

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<v Speaker 1>and please make sure bare minimum you got to follow

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<v Speaker 1>her on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Bear.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have no money, you're fucking broke. Go to

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<v Speaker 1>a library, go sign up for Twitter, follow her on Twitter.

741
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<v Speaker 1>Then you sign up for the free only fans. Then

742
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<v Speaker 1>from there you sign up for the VIP only fans,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go to the website and buy whatever

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<v Speaker 1>else she's selling. Leila, thank you so much for your

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<v Speaker 1>time tonight. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks
