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Speaker 1: Lilah Lovely my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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where you can find her at Lilah Underscore Lovely or

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check out all our links on onlylila dot com links

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to everything in the episode description. As always, please make

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sure you support content creators that come on the show,

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otherwise they don't come on anymore. Lila, thank you so

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much for coming on tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with the basic boring where it always begins.

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How did you initially decide to get into the adult

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entertainment industry in whatever form it was with us stripping camming,

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you went right into shooting gang bang scenes, whatever it is.

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When did you make your entrance from the quote unquote

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vanilla world into the world you work in now.

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Speaker 3: I got into this in a transition period of my life,

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and I got into it later in life.

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Speaker 2: I was thirty five years old when I began.

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Speaker 3: And at that time I was out of like kind

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of freshly out of a divorce, and I was I

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had moved from the Midwest back to the West Coast,

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and I was a single mom, and I was like

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needing some work, needing some pickup work because it's hard

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out there right, And I worked in the spa industry

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previous to this. I was a massage therapist an esthetician

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and I did that for over fifteen years. So I

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was just kind of looking for like massages, like some

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gigs that I could kind of like do to fill

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in and get a little bit cash here and there.

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And I was came across an ad on Craigslist and

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it was said models wanted any age, any size.

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Speaker 2: Piqued my interest.

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Speaker 3: I was already kind of sewing my wild outs, doing

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the kind of like fet life thing and just kind

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of like just kind of figuring out what I liked.

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Speaker 2: So I went and I did. I talked to these people.

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Speaker 3: It was a couple and they were out of like

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southern California. I was in San Diego at that time.

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And I went to their house and they were shooting

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BBW fetish clips. I didn't even know what BBW meant

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seeing about anything, but I did some clips, like some

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solo stuff, some just like really simple stuff. And then

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like I went there a few different times and they

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are basically like I think you should like you're really

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good at this, you should like do this, and you know,

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I'm like, oh, I'm sure, you say that to everyone,

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you know, But yeah, that was my beginning and it

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really just kind of took off really quick after that.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask, and this is not not to

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poke holes at all. The Craigslist d said any size,

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But then you got there and it was a BBW. Shoot,

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what if it was like a ninety five pound girl

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coming going it said any size?

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Speaker 3: Well I did, so I did speak to her ahead

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of time, so we did go over some of those details.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me okay, all right, I'm a I'm a

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bigger guy, right, I've always been. Does it offend you

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if someone says BBW at all? I wouldn't think it.

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It's a classification, but it's you know, beautiful is in

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the name, Like are you you cool with that niche

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or fetish or yeah.

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Speaker 3: And there's different like avenues to people's appreciations. Some people

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really get into like like the fat fetish and like

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the like feeding and like all of that stuff. And

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then some people just like appreciate a full figured woman totally,

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you know. So there's like a lot of variables there.

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And to be honest, when I started doing that, I

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didn't know that men appreciated women of size I thought

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y'all just wanted skinny girls.

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Speaker 2: I really didn't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't understand that there was a whole, like, you know,

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category of men that like appreciated this. So it really

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opened my eyes and started to make me feel so

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much more comfortable with myself.

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Speaker 1: That's that's actually really encouraging to hear. I've heard so

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many times that the adult industry or porn or whatever

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has given. I am blown away by the amount of

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women I interview who have just been in the most

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like you know, out there crazy scenes and I go, so,

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you must be a serious extrovert, and they go, oh, no, no,

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I'm a total introvert. I like to stay at home

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and this and that. Is that your personality at all?

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Or no, No, I'm a little bit of both. I'm

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like a happy medium. I like, I like a prop

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the house. But like when I was younger, I like

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to be outside and I like to like be out

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there doing stuff, and I do. I like, I can

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only be in the house.

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Speaker 3: Along and I'm like, all right, I need to get

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out and I need to see people and socialize. And

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I go to the gym, every day, so I at

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least do that, but like no, I would say, I'm

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kind of a combo both.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. When you initially got into this, it's

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funny because your previous career it seems related, but it's

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not related. So my question was going to be what

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did you take from your previous career into this? And

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as you say, and I'm wondering, is it sensuality, is

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it being able to set the mood, like what did

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you take from the missus and esthetician and all of

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that world into the adult world.

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Speaker 3: Well that in combination with me being a theater girl,

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and I know you've heard that a few times too

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during interviews, so it's satisfied a lot of my interests already.

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Being comfortable with bodies on nudity is I don't really

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think twice about it. You know, bodies are bodies, and

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I've seen so many different body types being a body

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worker and a massage therapist that going into sex work

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just just felt really natural.

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Speaker 2: And I wasn't like put.

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Speaker 3: Off by any of that, like ooh, like you know

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what I mean, look at him kind of you know.

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So yeah, it's just it really kind of felt like

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a natural thing for me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and I guess you also take with

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you there is yes, bodies, nudity, this and that, but

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there's a professionalism that comes with that as well. And

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I'm sure there are people, most likely men, who get

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into this industry and like, not all of them at all.

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I'm saying there's a couple or a few probably who

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get in and be like that's a free for all. That. No,

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it's a business. This is a job, you know, at

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the end of the day, this is how you pay

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your bills, and this is how this guy pays his bills.

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Fucking do the job or don't pay your bills, I guess, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you. You said you had gotten

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out of a relationship and then got into this industry.

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Is this just a one eighty from your personality prior

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to that or had you always been like, you know,

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flirty or I sound like a ninety year old man

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when I say promiscuous, but I think you know what

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I mean. Had it been like that? Or if someone

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who knew you ten years ago saw you doing what

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you do now, would they be like, what the fuck happened?

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Speaker 2: What she?

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Speaker 1: What is she doing?

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Speaker 3: Like I think that they probably are shocked by it.

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I wasn't like the I didn't date a lot. I

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always had like long term boyfriend friends, and I was.

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Speaker 2: Always like that girl.

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Speaker 3: And but I've always been very outspoken and I've always

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done like theater and public speaking and things like that.

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I get it though, you know, shocked, but like mmmm, okay,

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that kind of tracks.

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Speaker 1: So I also do a sideshow that I interview new

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girls coming into the industry. And I spoke to a

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girl last night and number one thing she hates and

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can't stand is all of the acting prior to the

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actual scene shooting, you know, the action. I'm thinking, you

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love that aspect the right.

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Speaker 2: I do love it. I do love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right.

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Speaker 3: So I'm happy when I get booked for like a

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scene and I get to use that part of me.

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Speaker 1: So far, what are your favorite roles to play?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm usually thrown into a milf type like

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mommy roll, so I mean that can be fun. You can,

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you know, just have have a lot of creative liberty

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with that. I mean I've played a lot of little

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silly things. I've worn like prosthetic pregnancy suits. I've done,

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you know, naughty Secretary before. I don't know so many things.

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Speaker 1: Is there any role that you really want to dig

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your teeth into and like learn, Like do you want

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to play like I don't know, a general contractor and

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you have to come in and set all the contracts

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while being fucked obviously, but you have to make sure

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everyone's on time, and you're calling people and you're like,

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you gotta get Johnson over here. He's got to connect

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the point. Okay, I'm getting fucked told on. Do you

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have Do you have any like grand ambitions or anything

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of that for a role to play in this industry?

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Have you ever shot a feature too? Can I guess that?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I've done like a future per se.

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I mean I've shot for brawsers a good number of times,

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Reality Kings score quite a few companies. Sure, so a

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lot of those, like ad scenes that are on porn Hub.

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Sure you'll see that running across. So there's that, you know.

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Speaker 2: I like to I like to be a mommy dom.

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Speaker 3: I like to I like to get into like my

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femdom side of me. So I'd love to get onto

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a pro femdom set and really kind of show that

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part off more.

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Speaker 1: I see a lot of people that get into femdom

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again more from the new side, the girls getting in,

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and it's almost like they look at that like it's

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and there's no offense to them and they will learn eventually,

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but they look at it almost like that's kind of

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the easy way to go in, Like I'll come in

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and I'll just be mean to guys and I'll do

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this and that. Then I've talked to real femdoms and

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real people who have experienced in this. Do you have

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I guess you're an actress, so you do have the ability.

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You seem very sweet. Do you have the ability to

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get tough with a guy and fucking put them? Is

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that the Midwest thing in you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, definitely am Midwest nice. That's still in me.

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Speaker 3: But I one of the downfalls of being in the

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industry is you see a really ugly side of and

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a nasty side of like people, and you have to

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start to put down some really firm boundaries and you

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can't be afraid of that.

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Speaker 2: It's really important.

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Speaker 3: So I've really learned how to use that voice and

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be really confident in studying really firm boundaries, and with

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that confidence in those boundaries, some men really get turned

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on by that and they really like that. So that's

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where that dominant side could come out even more so.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you what one or two boundaries you

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may have added since you started in the industry. Is

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there something you'll just be like, no, not doing that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's certain sex acts that I started out doing,

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Like I started doing anal, Like right out the gate,

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I'm doing anal, but I like doing that, like I

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enjoyed it in my personal life. I didn't understand it

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was something to be coveted at all. I didn't know

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anything really about the porn industry getting into it. I

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was just kind of like, wait, I'm having fun, and

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I've pulled the reins back on a lot of that, Like,

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I'm not doing that right now. That's for that's for

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my home life, you know, save some stuff for home.

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So I just have learned to like be okay with

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putting those personal boundaries down. And some fans might get annoyed,

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but I think fans at the end of the day

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appreciate that even more because I'm being realistic about things.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sure, sure, now is that a okay? On anal?

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Is that a firm boundary like you are not going

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to do scenes anymore or right opportunity time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just not doing it right now, so I'll

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do solo or if it was like a girl girl something, yeah,

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but I'm just not doing boy girl.

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Speaker 1: Ana totally totally? Is that okay? All right? Yeah, no

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that makes sense. Can I guess what was your first

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boy girl shoot and how different did it feel to

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where you knew like this was going to happen.

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started doing those clips with. We started shooting for a

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couple of months, so it just kind of progressed from

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like solo and then it like went into a boy

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girl soon after that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right? How long did it take you to

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become comfortable in front of the camera or I guess

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with your theater background, were you always I mean.

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like you know, that was an audience, so yeah, I was.

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I'm familiar, I'm comfortable in front of people and audiences.

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Speaker 1: No tension or nerves when you were gonna do those

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first shoots.

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Speaker 3: I mean, of course, a little bit of like natural nerves,

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but nothing like nothing crazy. I had some really great,

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like first experiences with sets and stuff, and they just

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make you make sure you feel really comfortable, especially if

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they know that you're new.

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Speaker 1: I wily ask you to call anyone out by name, obviously,

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but you've been on some good sets, I can assume,

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maybe I assume anyone who's been in the industry this

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long has been on some bad sets as well. What

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is the difference between a good set and a bad set?

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And what can a bad set do to turn it

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around and just make it better? Are there any like

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little simple fixes that drive you fucking nuts on a

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bad set?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let me just think about how.

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Speaker 1: I think about what. Yeah, totally, I get it.

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Speaker 3: Having the right amenities is huge, and having clean amenities

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is key. You know.

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Speaker 2: I've been to houses that are it's a shoot house.

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Speaker 3: In the bathroom is nasty, showers grow like you don't

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want to touch a shower curtain.

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Speaker 2: It's just like, come on, that's like the most easy

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thing you could.

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Speaker 3: Do, you know, is go to wall. Even if you

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don't have a big budget, you can fake it. You

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can fake it till you make it. I don't care.

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Go get a two dollars fresh shower liner for these girls.

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That's easy, you know what I mean? Just like really

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simple things, just upgrading the furniture that you use. We

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all know that it's being used over and over and

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over again. If it's an upholstery situation, swap it out,

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swap it out. It's really not that hard. But you know,

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it's all just little things like that to make a

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big difference when you're going on sets.

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Speaker 1: Totally totally gross. But okay, I can't really ask it

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then because then it might get too specific. I was

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I was going to ask what the worst set you

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were on, but you just described I mean pretty much what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would just be kind of a generalization of

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some like not great conditions.

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Speaker 1: Okay, totally fair. Uh, let me ask you what is

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the most challenging shoot you've been a part of. Not

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necessarily it's negative challenging for you, whether you were worried

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about handling the male talent, whether it was too many,

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if if you had concerns about wardrobe or anything like that, Like,

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what was the most challenging time you've had in this industry,

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and then again not necessarily negative at all, just like this.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be some.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe the one I always bring that one

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up with the press, the wearing the pregnancy like a

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cross sthetic, because there was a lot of like parks

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to that scene.

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Speaker 2: So it was like they wanted, you know, squirting.

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Speaker 3: And I've got this suit on and there was like

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a lot of people in the scene, so it was

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just a lot of moving parts.

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Speaker 2: It's all I would have to say.

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Speaker 3: But overall, I don't do a lot of group scenes,

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and I've always been independent. I don't have an agent

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that books my scenes for me, so I'm really been

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in control of everything that I've been a part of.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, if I go to your Only Fans

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by the way, for the people listening, it's at Lilah

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Underscore Lovely, sign up for that x x X oh

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yeah the U yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you them.

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Speaker 2: There's two of them.

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Speaker 1: There's two of them. But I'm sending people. You go

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pay for it, folks. Okay, if you're listening to this

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right now, you're getting this for free, so go pay

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for that. Okay, just go do that. If I sign

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up for your only fans. What am I going to see?

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Do I get?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Is it the daily updates of your life? Is it

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like more personal feel is it more polished like once

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a month we put out this big video. Do you

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have any like structure to your only fans or is

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it just kind of what you're feeling?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's quite a bit of structure to it.

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But you get more of a personalized experience.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to like sex and chat, I'm

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there online to second do all that. Some people don't

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know exactly what they're looking for, Like they want a video,

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but they can't you know, they don't know what They

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don't maybe know my library of content yet, so I

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can help guide them through, like hey, let me put

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together a bundle, or you know, I think you might

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like this, or what are you into? So it's a

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lot more personalized experience than if you were just going

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to subscribe to like the website or buy a video

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off of many VIDs or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Sure, okay, all right, but what kind of Okay, so

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you're directing them and stuff like that. What kind of

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content content?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Are you producing? I mean, is it like again like

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daily weekly pictures or like say, I'm going through my

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timeline right now. There's Lilah looks great as always, and

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what am I saying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of everything, daily updated photos. I

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do Boy Girl videos, so I don't do a ton

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of those during the year anymore so.

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Speaker 2: But I've I've been ramping it up lately.

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Speaker 3: So right now it's kind of been like once a

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month there's a new boy Girl video coming in between

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that solo stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like, guys just love solo stuff, whether.

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Speaker 3: It's a joy or a shower video or something of

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just me like seductively stripping, okay, side dishes.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I dabble in all kinds of different stuff.

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Give more variety.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be such a stupid question. How

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do you keep talking during solo videos? I feel I do.

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I host a show. I've done two hundred episodes of this.

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I feel like if I had to, like dirty, I

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would get to about thirty seconds in and be like,

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what else do you guys want?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: How do you just keep it going?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Sometimes I do have to like look at other

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stuff to get a little bit of inspiration. Like, Okay,

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I've said this so many times over and over, you know,

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chat GPT helpful, and it's actually an adult version of

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that that you can say like, hey, I want to

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create this video this kind of like the tone that

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I wanted to be, and they'll like, it'll write up

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like a script for you. It's really cool. So there's

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tools to help you come up with it. But I

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don't know, you just kind of like, after a while, it.

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Speaker 1: Just kind of becomes second nature. You're just like, yeah,

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we'll move into the com talk over here and blah, okay,

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all right, uh okay. Do you have any personal turn

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ons that you would like to incorporate more into your content?

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I assume you shoot what you like. I know every

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girl I've interviewed kind of has a thing of I

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shoot the content I like, and then I shoot what

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also makes money over here and whatever. But is there

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anything you've either yet to do, or if you've only

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dipped your toe in where it's a niche or a

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fetish or something you want to explore possibly going forward.

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Speaker 3: I did just shoot with brick Zilla, so he was

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someone who I've been wanting to shoot with for my fans.

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I've shot with some other like big guys in the past,

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and then, like I said, I had take it a

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little slow down on hardcore content, and now I'm ramping

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back up. So I feel like I've also had body

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changes over the years too, and a lot of new fans,

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and with these body changes, so I wanted to show

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them what I still can do, not what I used

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to do. So that's why I'm starting to life put

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myself back out there and be like, yeah, I do

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still do this and I am still that girl.

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Speaker 1: Can I give you a compliment? That's gonna sound like

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an insult, and I am not good with women, so

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it's gonna sound really stupid.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's have it.

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Speaker 1: The glow up on your hair? Since are there some

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of the early scenes? Yeah, beautiful. There was one I

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saw and you still look hot and you still look gorgeous.

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I'm sure it was a great scene, but I was like, yo,

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that is a Wisconsin haircut. Speaking as a guy from

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New Jersey, Okay, that is a whisk content haircut. And

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I have seen I also snuck around and saw your

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workout either Instagram or Twitter. I forget which one it was,

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but yeah, you bust your ass and you know you

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always look good, but you're right, everything has tightened up.

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You look awesome. You look incredible. Do you feel better?

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Speaker 3: So much better? So much better. I'm such a healthier

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version of myself than I was when I began in

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this industry.

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Speaker 2: I get.

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Speaker 3: I know, I began as like a bigger girl, and

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that's where like a lot of my fans come from.

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But I honestly do get offended when they're like I

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get fans are like, M, I respect you working out,

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but I liked you better before, And I'm like, bro, like,

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that's not sustainable.

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Speaker 2: It's not sustainable.

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Speaker 3: I'm older, I can't I can't carry weight like that

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and be a healthy person.

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Speaker 2: And I'm such a better version of myself. So it

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is what it is. But yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You know the greatest example of that. I interviewed her

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a few weeks ago, Dee d White formally Sekah Black,

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seventy one years old, in infinitely better shape than I

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am right now. Love, She's so cool, She's just the

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greatest personality. I'll give you a little behind the scenes

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scoop on this. It was so cute her and a

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gentleman that was helping her. I don't know what to say, Uh,

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we're doing the zoom thing beforehand They're like, I can't

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get the screen to be full. And I was just like, yo,

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this is like my grandma, but she fucks a whole

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bunch of dudes all the time. Good for her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I ran into I had a couple family members.

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I have a couple of cousins that I'm really close with,

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and I brought them to an event down here in

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South Beach and she was at the event and we

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had a room one night at the Ritz Carlton and

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she's there hanging out and they're like, wow, look at

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that woman, like they had no anything.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, shit that, let me tell

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you about that. They couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: That is so funny. What did you did you just think?

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I mean, if this is too personal, please it's so funny.

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I'll talk all day about so have you been gang banged?

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Blah blah blah. If this is too personal, please stop

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me to change the diet, just tight the gym more.

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I lost about seventy pounds last year because someone told

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me I couldn't fuck it, and it was it was. Yes,

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the back feels better, the fucking everything. You don't cramp

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up all the time, the knees don't hurt. What did

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you do to change your lifestyle?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so COVID either made you or break or you know,

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it was like make it or break it kind of situations.

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So I kind of like got into my health and

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I started like working out.

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Speaker 2: I got a trainer, and then.

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Speaker 3: I decided to go get mommy makeover. So I did

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have a tummy tuck and I got a BBL and

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that just continue to motivate me. And I see a

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lot of women getting their bodies done and then they

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don't like maintain it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look great. I really didn't want them, Like,

475
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:27,400
if I'm going to do this, I want to look good.

476
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,720
I want it to like look right.

477
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: You know.

478
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: I want to take care of myself. So I've just

479
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,119
been super committed and staying in the gym. And again,

480
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,160
I'm getting older and I I don't want someone to

481
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,440
have to take care of me. I don't want to

482
00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:46,400
have to use a device to get around when I'm

483
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,279
eighty years old. I want to have a strong body

484
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:51,519
for the rest of my life.

485
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: You want to be D. D. White exactly, still working

486
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000
in your seventies. I can't imagine I'm going to be

487
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,319
dead before seventy one and she's out there fucking doing

488
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,799
gang bangs and stuff. You Okay, this is gonna be

489
00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:09,920
really awkward if you got into like a big fight

490
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,279
with her yesterday and you're not friends anymore. Maybe you're

491
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:14,880
not friends, I don't know. Maybe you just work together.

492
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:21,400
I have seen you at Exotica. I believe with Sarah Ja. Yep,

493
00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:25,559
m Sarah Jay agreed to come on this show when

494
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:29,960
I had two episodes in I had like no followers,

495
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:33,519
no listeners. She sat with me for an hour. She talked,

496
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,799
great conversation. She seems like you didn't get in a

497
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,119
huge fight with her and you hate her now right? No, okay, good.

498
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,359
She seems like a giving person in this industry. Have

499
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,319
you only worked with her a little bit or is

500
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,680
she someone that like has helped you at all through

501
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,480
this or.

502
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,319
Speaker 3: Sit we've got I've worked I have one scene with her,

503
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,079
and we had met like at an awards show, I

504
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:04,799
think initially, and then now we have a lot of

505
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,599
mutual friends. So that has brought us closer in the

506
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,599
last few years.

507
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, is there anyone that you consider, like,

508
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,799
not necessarily a mentor, but is there anyone in the

509
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:23,440
industry you kind of look up to and you're like,

510
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,480
I want to do more what they're doing, or I

511
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:27,759
want to ask them how they're doing this, or I

512
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:29,640
think this is interesting that they did.

513
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: My good friend Sophia Rose, She's always been somebody that

514
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,119
I've looked up to and try to kind of model

515
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:47,240
my career after how she's kind of operated. So I

516
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:51,160
really I was like, I like how she's kind of

517
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,640
set the tone for things. I like the boundaries that

518
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,119
she set. She's We're very similar people.

519
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:03,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, what what kind of Oh you know what,

520
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,720
I'm gonna do a little thing I do called stat check.

521
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,200
So these numbers are going to be wrong. I'm just

522
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,079
putting that out there right now. This is from the

523
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:14,759
Internet Adult Film Database. I just like using it as

524
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:17,599
kind of a milestone or a checkpoint. These are the

525
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,640
stats that are on your career right now, and then

526
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,759
a year from now, we'll look at it and you'll

527
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,799
be drowning in Avian Awards and we'll just go remember

528
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,720
when that was it? Oh boy? So for scenes, I

529
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:33,759
have that you have shot one hundred and thirty seven scenes. Guys,

530
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,160
you've worked with forty one girls. You've worked with twenty

531
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,240
nine nominations for Avian Awards. I apologize seven because you

532
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,200
have other wins. No wins yet? Is that correct for Avian? No,

533
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,680
they're tough, man, They're real tough.

534
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:56,079
Speaker 3: It's you gotta be bringing in money to them, fair enough?

535
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you bring money into them?

536
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,599
Speaker 2: There's so many different ways?

537
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:06,839
Speaker 1: Is it shootings? I don't even know.

538
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I can't really say specifically, and I don't

539
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:13,119
want to, gotcha.

540
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally fair. Okay, Well they should, they should recognize

541
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,359
people like you. I'll just put it that way. So

542
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,480
let's talk about the future. Where do you see this

543
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,480
career going. Do you have a cutoff point where you go,

544
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:33,519
I've made this much money, I'm ready to move on

545
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,240
to a new venture. Obviously, I'm just saying from your

546
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:40,240
standpoint here, no way to predict where it goes. Are

547
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,759
you like, if I do this and I just get

548
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:45,960
tired of it one day, I'm okay, just walking away?

549
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:47,680
Do you want to be doing this until you're eighty

550
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:50,920
years old? Like D D. White? As we said, what

551
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,240
is your plan going forward in this industry?

552
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: Right now?

553
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,519
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of possibilities with AI as

554
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:04,359
I get older, I don't always. Lilah can live on

555
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,519
forever in my eyes, and I can always monetize off

556
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:12,160
of Lilah lovely, and she could be legacy down to

557
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:17,960
my children, you know what I mean. So I feel

558
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:21,640
like I've put in so much into this now I

559
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,680
have such a huge library of content. I'm continuing to

560
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:29,559
do that. I still feel great as a performer. I'll

561
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:33,480
continue to do that until I don't feel great, and

562
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:38,480
when it naturally feels like maybe I'm going to like taper.

563
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: Back off, you know what I mean.

564
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: So I don't necessarily have like a specific plan. I'm

565
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,599
very much like, let's kind of to see how things

566
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,000
go and how I feel. And I feel that I

567
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:58,720
actually have that freedom to do that with this.

568
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,039
Speaker 1: I like that that you embrace the AI thing, because

569
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:05,640
I think I have a more pessimistic view. My concern

570
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,480
is they go to these well, whatever they are, some

571
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,759
of them aren't even like Schoot mainstream stuff or anything.

572
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:15,200
Ten million followers, twenty million followers on Instagram, and they

573
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,599
just go sell us your rights and you don't ever

574
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,799
have to do anything again. We'll just make it. Yeah,

575
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:26,240
I think you will still benefit from that. You obviously

576
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200
are big enough but I wonder if that's going to

577
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:32,000
screw over newer people coming in or people who are

578
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,400
more like, not in a negative way, in like more

579
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,799
of a mid tier, you know, where they're not the

580
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,519
most popular person, but they're also not a newbie or

581
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:40,319
anything like that.

582
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:41,599
Speaker 2: I don't think. So.

583
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: I think that there's still men that don't want that,

584
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,319
that actually want real like. I think the more we

585
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,880
get that, the more people are going to crave actual

586
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:59,519
human connection and seek that out. So I think that

587
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:03,599
you're going to have both. Some guys don't care. I mean,

588
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,480
you see these Instagram accounts that are AI women and

589
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:10,960
they got tons of love followers.

590
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:14,079
Speaker 2: They don't care. They don't care. He's a hot she's

591
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:18,880
a hot female form. That's all they care. So I

592
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,680
don't know, you know what I mean. I can be

593
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,160
a pessimist about it too, but I'm trying to look

594
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,839
at it in ways that I can use it for myself,

595
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,720
and it's not going to go away.

596
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: So sure, I think. Yeah, Like I said, I think

597
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,519
you're going to totally be fine. And you have a

598
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,440
you know, catalog, like you've talked about of stuff that

599
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:43,440
you could draw from that if you want it to.

600
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,440
I think it's our studios, and I'm not asking you

601
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,200
to talk bad about it. I only know because I've

602
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,640
seen it on Twitter a few times. Are studios trying

603
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,119
to get people to sign away their rights as well

604
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:55,480
to some of those things.

605
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:59,599
Speaker 3: I haven't a thing yet, so I'm not a huge

606
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,000
I don't work in studios constantly to like hear those things,

607
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:05,440
so I'm not really sure.

608
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Gotcha? I think, like I said, I mean, yes,

609
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,719
I'll be an optimist with you and say it'll be

610
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,159
better and this and that. I think I think those

611
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,960
mid tier girls will get hurt a little bit in

612
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,480
that possibly possibly new girls. Everyone always wants to see

613
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,800
someone new coming in or whatever. Established stars like yourself,

614
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:27,679
but who knows. None of us actually know what's going

615
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,119
to happen.

616
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's a mystery.

617
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,639
Speaker 1: This is a weird question, especially because you said you

618
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,639
can shoot a bunch of group scenes. But I always

619
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:40,440
ask this, what constitutes a gang bang to you? How

620
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:44,039
many people constitution this is contentious?

621
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:48,159
Speaker 3: By the way, it is because I have one that

622
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,679
I sell as a gang bang, but it's with three guys. Now,

623
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,000
some would say that's not that is not a gang bang.

624
00:34:56,599 --> 00:35:01,960
I think I think they say four is the minimum.

625
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: What do you think I would say? Three? Okay, By

626
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,360
the way, if people go back in previous episodes, you'll

627
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,719
hear me being like, nothing less than five as you're

628
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,079
saying it. No, I think three is entirely reasonable. It's

629
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:16,800
not a threesome. It's a step up from that.

630
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're really not the easiest to coordinate on

631
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,719
your on your own. It's really not easy to find

632
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,159
a bunch of guys. It isn't It's not an easy thing.

633
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,039
So I had more planned for that day, but three

634
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:32,400
as well.

635
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,199
Speaker 2: We ended up with.

636
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: Wow, oh what I mean? It is just people bailing

637
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,119
at the last minute? Or do people get cold feet

638
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,719
in the industry. It was like during.

639
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: Like expis Miami, like years ago, and it was like,

640
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,039
you know, the guys are in and out of the

641
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:53,760
room and like, yeah, I'll do it, and then it

642
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,280
was like taking forever to do all the paperwork and

643
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,199
stuff and by the time like we get to it,

644
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,199
oh he left or he you know, it's just.

645
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,559
Speaker 2: That Hut.

646
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,639
Speaker 1: Did you realize that so much of the it's so

647
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,719
you mentioned the paperwork there. I always ask this question too,

648
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,320
Did you realize that like five percent of this job

649
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,800
was having sex and the rest was everything else that

650
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,440
comes with it.

651
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:20,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I don't think most people don't

652
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:24,199
realize that because it is it's just it's you're barely

653
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,239
fucking compared to what you think, you know, it's everything else.

654
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:34,079
Speaker 1: Sure, totally ignorant outside perspective. I go, oh, Lila goes in,

655
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,239
she has sex with the guys, she comes home, she

656
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,480
gets paid, you know, forty million dollars, and everything's good.

657
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,599
Like guys from the outside probably see that and go, yeah,

658
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,800
triple anal. Yeah, definitely made about forty million on that one.

659
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,360
I would assume, not quite like that, right, You show up,

660
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,559
sign a bunch of papers, Yeah, start having sex and

661
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:56,360
one position, pause, move the camera, move lighting, if possible,

662
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:58,639
do it again for Is that kind of the gist

663
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,880
of like I understand and you say you don't work

664
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,760
in a ton of mainstream as much anymore, But is

665
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,400
that kind of the gist of what a being on

666
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,199
a porn set is?

667
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,119
Speaker 2: Oh, like mechanical like that?

668
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean obviously there's like you know, joking and passion

669
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,679
and stuff. I'm not saying like everyone's a Russian robot person,

670
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,679
but yeah, is it a little more like we got

671
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:21,639
to go through this step now and we got to

672
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:22,000
do this.

673
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,559
Speaker 3: It depends on the company because some companies are very

674
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:31,559
specific and they have key shots that they need to grab,

675
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,800
so they have to make sure, oh, we got to

676
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,840
get this key shot, and then they'll get it from

677
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,320
like multiple angles, so you're gonna get You're gonna go

678
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,559
over that shot a bunch of times. So sometimes yeah,

679
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,639
it can It can just be like I'm gonna do

680
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:44,920
this that.

681
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,679
Speaker 2: But it's so cool though.

682
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,039
Speaker 1: All right, last question I have for you, and this

683
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:56,719
one is also contentious and surprises me the answers I get.

684
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
You're a person who got into the industry a little

685
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,639
not later in life, not like sake of Black Dedie White,

686
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:05,840
but little later in life than the girl that gets

687
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,119
in at nineteen or whatever. Right, Yeah, what is the

688
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,559
age that people should be able to get into porn?

689
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: Oh?

690
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they should be able to do it

691
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:28,039
at eighteen? Okay, you're an adult. Then, sure, you're you're

692
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:34,199
an adult. Will I work with an eighteen year old? No,

693
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,480
I'm not comfortable with that. I understand there's a lot

694
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,719
of growth in maturing that that needs to happen for

695
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:48,119
them to make some like real good decisions in life decisions.

696
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:56,119
So but I also know that like some people come

697
00:38:56,159 --> 00:39:01,559
from like really shitty backgrounds, and sex work is a

698
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:04,679
means of them being able to get away from that,

699
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,039
you know what I mean.

700
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,679
Speaker 2: So some girls.

701
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,559
Speaker 3: It really like it helps them survive and it helps

702
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:16,800
pull them out of really bad situations.

703
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:20,639
Speaker 1: So I totally get that too. The conversation I've been

704
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:24,320
having around that is I've always said this, if you're

705
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:27,159
old enough to go die in war somewhere at eighteen,

706
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,559
you're old enough to shoot porn, Like, come on, get

707
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,880
the fuck if you can go, get the death penalty,

708
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:35,719
you're allowed to shoot porn. But the more and more

709
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,480
performers I talk to, so many of them, some of

710
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,400
them got in at eighteen, I'll say, twenty one, do

711
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,039
twenty one. I understand what you're saying too. I don't

712
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want to take away someone's ability to make money. That's

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not But the other problem with it is number doesn't

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really account for it, because there's eighteen year olds who

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are so wise and smart and have their shit down,

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and there's forty year olds who have no fucking idea

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what they're doing. Right, completely, So it's tough. It's tough.

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I think what I liked, and again I don't give

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a shit. Do whatever you want as long as there's

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no dogs or kids in the room. I don't give

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a fuck what you do if you're an adult. Okay,

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but I think a nice little mid ground I've been

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finding with mainstream performers lately is maybe eighteen to twenty one.

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You do cam stuff or solo stuff or this and that,

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get a little business experience under your belt, Understand what

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your worth is, what your worth would be for shooting scenes,

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and then hey, you hit twenty one, you go out

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there and shoot.

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Speaker 2: That might be a better progression of things.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I don't care. At the end of

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the day, do what you want to do if you're legal. Right,

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Shay up, ladies and gentlemen. My guest tonight, Lilah Lovely.

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You can find her at Onlylilah dot com, and most importantly,

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you know exactly where you can find her only fans

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at Lilah Underscore Lovely links to everything in the episode description,

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and please make sure bare minimum you got to follow

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her on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Bear.

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Speaker 1: If you have no money, you're fucking broke. Go to

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a library, go sign up for Twitter, follow her on Twitter.

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Then you sign up for the free only fans. Then

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from there you sign up for the VIP only fans,

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and then you go to the website and buy whatever

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else she's selling. Leila, thank you so much for your

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time tonight. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you too.

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Speaker 1: Thanks