Speaker 1: Hello, Hillbilly Nation, How the heck are you?
Speaker 2: You have no idea how long I have been waiting
to do that.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Hillbilly Horror Stories. I'm Brittany and I will
be your host this week. Okay, so like first, let's
address the whereabouts of our very own mister Mullins. He's
been a little quiet the last few weeks. He is
still here, that I can promise you. But that man
has won super crazy busy life. I honestly don't see
how he does it all from what I hear him
and his sweet wife, Oh moy, god, have any of
you met that amazing woman? Sorry sidetracked, Keep it together, Brittany. Anyway,
they should be moved in their new house next week.
With any luck, Tim's studio will be set back up
and things can get back to normal. But this week
you have me to introduce this week's episode. But before
I do, I would like to read a few short stories.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool?
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 2: The first one is called My Bedtime Companion. I rarely
sleep alone, not that I have a choice in the matter.
The night always starts and ends the same. I knock
back a few sleeping pills, take off my clothes, I
like where this is going. Sorry, I knock back a
few sleeping pills, take off my clothes, and let myself
get drowsy. Then every night I wait for her face
to appear. No matter how many sleeping pills I take,
I can feel her arrival. Sometimes she's just a face,
and other times she's a jaggedly rearranged torso. She paces too,
or glides like she's on a conveyor belt, back and forth.
Her eye is never leaving mine, eyes wild with rage.
The night's when her body lies beside me, I find
us face to face. Her lips are always agape, as
if she's mimicking my horrified reaction. My whole body becomes
liquid with fear, and I bolt upright to escape, But
I can never make it past my bedroom door. My
legs fail me, and I'm suddenly in a heap by
my dresser drawer. That's when she kneels, purses her purple
lips together, and utters the only words I've ever heard
her say since that night, You shouldn't have killed me. Well,
I don't see any sleep for me tonight.
Speaker 4: Ugh.
Speaker 2: Here's one more I saw emailed in from a listener.
I was about seven. I was left with my grandmother
in her small apartment while my parents went on a
movie date. We had dinner together and chatted for a while.
At about ten o'clock, my grandmother picked up her knitting
and I turned on the TV. We sat like this
together until my grandmother got thirsty and asked me to
get her a glass of water. I protested, saying that
it was too dark to walk to the kitchen, in
which she replied, don't be scared. Follow the hallway. There's
a switch right next to the bathroom door. So I
got up and felt my way along the walls of
the hallway, groping for the light switch. As I reached
the bathroom, I stopped and felt around, only to come
into contact with a bony hand that tried to drag
me into the bathroom. I managed to pull away and run,
screaming back to my grandmother. What exactly happened has never
been established, but it is known that no one but
my grandma and myself were alone in the apartment at
the time. Grandma passed away shortly after that, and I
refused to go back to that place. Now that's spooky, Okay,
I've bored you long enough. This week's episode is about
the famous haunted toys r Us. This was fun. I
hope to do it again sometime. Enjoy the show.
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Speaker 3: Jingle bells, jingle bells. Welcome to episode seventy two of
Hillbilly Horror Stories. I'm Jerry and I'm joined by my
wife Tracy.
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, Mary, Christmas Eve to you guys, ho and another.
Speaker 3: Hole oh three holes from my favorite hole.
Speaker 6: Thanks.
Speaker 3: Hey, real quick. We just wanted to basically tell all
of you guys what a wonderful year you've given us.
Speaker 6: Amen.
Speaker 3: We wanted to say a big Merry Christmas to every
one of you. We've been inundated the last couple of
days with people writing us some of the nicest stuff
you could ever want to see, a lot of personal stuff,
a lot of things telling us how we've helped them
deal with some hardships in their life. And nothing means
more to us this time of year than hearing how
we impact you guys.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and even though you say that you don't know
how much you all help us through the year. Absolutely,
I mean, it's just amazing. But we appreciate all you
guys reaching out to us and we're there for anything
we can do for you.
Speaker 3: Real quick, because we didn't have a ton of iTunes
reviews this week, but we did have one and was
from Casey sixteen four three, two five six, Thank you.
Speaker 6: For that wonderful Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: And then as far as Patreon, our Patreon supporters right
now are don't do that's my way of getting what
I'm not prepared. Brandy Hester it was our new one
and we've had Brandy, Tammy Hicks, thank you, Honey, Leanne Ashmore,
thank you, Lisa. I think this is Lisa and Nadine.
Oh cool, and then we've got Leslie Tyler and Alison Richard.
Thank you, guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 6: We appreciate you more than you'll ever know.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, now we are going to have fun on this
episode because we've got you know, this is hibbily horror stories.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 3: Last year we went ahead and just tried to make
it all jovial and lighthearted, and we told the story
of Crampus and Old Saint Nat and Uh, I thought,
you know what, this year, we're gonna be hidly horror
stories and we're going to tell you some uh stuff
that I think is interesting. So we've got a we've
got a nice haunted story for you for the Haunted
Toys r Us. So that'll stick with our regular thing,
because what's more Christmas ere than toys?
Speaker 6: Well, that's true, it's hard. That's been a year already.
I'll tell you what. That's crazy. We didn't know stories or.
Speaker 3: Kristen made the joke about Crampus being the uh the
uh what the demon that visits her once a month?
Speaker 6: I remember that.
Speaker 3: Uh. But so we got this Toys r Us story.
We thought that this is a pretty cool story to
use at Christmas time. Then I've got a story that's
about a little boy and his friend that passed on
that has to do with Christmas. And we're also going
to read you. Now this will be something different than
what we did. This is actually going to be a
story instead of you know what it was in the
night before Christmas like most people read, We're gonna read
you a different kind of story. But it's not going
to be one that's in our way. I'm just going
to read it word for word. We'll put a little
fun into it, but I think this is going to
be something that will shock a lot of you. It's
not your typical Christmas story, So this will not be
the episode to listen to with the kids on the
way over to Grandma's house.
Speaker 6: Oh jeez.
Speaker 3: And then we're going to finish the show up. Our
good friend Amber Hammond, formerly of Colored Me Dead podcast,
came on with us and she's going to do some
a little segment that we might do ever so often
called Amber's killer Facts.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, she had some really cool ones to he and.
Speaker 3: She basically is going to tell us some cool facts
about some serial killers and we play a little game
with it where she had ten picked out Me and
Tracy just picked numbers and we randomly got whatever fact
she had and it was a fun little deal. So
we'll throw that on the end. As you might have heard,
we replaced our regular hillbilly horror theme with John Lennon's
Happy Christmas Wars Over because that's my favorite Christmas song
and anytime I can throw John Lennon of the Beatles in,
that's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 6: Good sounds great.
Speaker 3: But then we also heard Erosmith's Toys in the Attic
to go in with our Toys song. So are we
ready to get this thing going? All right? This may
not be as long a show as we normally do
because we're doing it on Christmas, even between our runs,
not runs like because Tracy fixed Bad Food last night,
runs like to everybody's house.
Speaker 6: That you always have to know it's going to be crazy.
Speaker 3: So we're going to start off with the Toys or
Us story. Now, a lot of you have probably heard
this story, and as usual, I tried to throw a
few extra facts and stuff in there. Maybe you haven't
heard now this Toys or Us. It's in Sunnyville, California,
and obviously it's supposedly haunted, or we wouldn't be talking
about it. Now. This goes all the way back to
the late seventies when this first really started coming out,
and a lot of the information I have you'll hear
me talk about the managers and stuff like that, this
all comes from two thousand and seven. I couldn't really
find a lot of recent stuff on it. And with
everything that's going on with Toys r Us, I don't
even know if this store is still open.
Speaker 6: That's so sad too, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't like that damn giraffe. What's his name? Jeffrey
Jeffrey used to go and you get those old Jeffrey
Bucks you remember that. Well, it's just stupid. It is
not diraft can't spend money. Well you got Jeffrey.
Speaker 6: Bucks because he's being nice.
Speaker 3: And given how they choose, how they choose a giraffe
as a mascot of a story store. Who have you
ever known it had toy giraffe? You did not have it.
Speaker 6: I didn't have one long years and many years ago.
Speaker 3: Would you get from the Toys r Us?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 6: I don't think so. Actually, okay, so good off on not.
Speaker 3: Today, So let's move ahead. This is good, Like I
said it goes back to the seventies. Now, several TV
shows back in the day used to actually have the
son Now, they didn't have all the haunted shows like
they got today, But there was a show called That's Incredible.
Do you remember that?
Speaker 6: Yes? I do remember that.
Speaker 3: Back in the late seventies, I had fran Harkingdon on
and what's her name, Crosby I can't remember. And then
I can't remember who the other guy was.
Speaker 6: See, I remember Frank, but I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Our friend fran Harkin d.
Speaker 6: I don't remember who else was on there.
Speaker 3: But that was a cool show back in the day,
and it involved everything. I mean it was, you know,
anything that was crazy feats or of strength or whatever.
But it was actually on that show. Now most of
you know psychic Sylvia Brown. She's pretty famous and has
been for a long time, but she actually was the
first psychic or anybody of a name that did this.
And now I keep in mind, this was seventy eight. Yeah, yeah,
so this is, you know, thirty years ago.
Speaker 6: I probably thought she was like on Psychedelica.
Speaker 3: Actually that was forty years ago, so I mean she
was really just getting started. She's been a big name
for a long time, but so she was out there
and she did a seance and she's been back more
than a dozen times. Good for her since then. This place,
there was a Hollywood scriptwriter that did a movie called Toys,
and he actually spent two nights there just kind of
doing some research. So I don't and I don't remember
that movie by any chance, just called I remember the
one with Richard Pryor in it, but that was the Toy.
Speaker 6: Okay, So he spent the night at Toys r Us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he spent two nights there, just time of doing
some research for his I guess the movie was probably
semi based on what happened there. So it's supposedly haunted
by a man named Johann Johnson. And this is according
to Sylvia Brown, which she got out of her seance
that she did, so she's most of this information comes
from her. But they have been able to document some
of these things, like the fact that there was a
Johann Brown that lived there and all that, so we're
getting that a little more.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 3: Johnson was actually a preacher and a ranch hand in
the nineteen or I said in nineteen eighth, the eighteen
eighties on the Murphy family farm, and the Murphy family
farm is what used to be the Murphy. Murphy family
farm is actually where the toys r Us is right now.
Oh cool. So Johann actually spoke with a slight Swedish accent,
so our Swedish people.
Speaker 6: Were like that, yeah, it's a great accent to have.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is Swedish. Is a really cool accent. And
so we got ten of sixteen people that were at
the seance said that they heard kind of a high
pitch buzz noise while Brown was actually supposedly talking to Johann,
so this when he would talk back through her, this
buzz would go on. So that was kind of cool.
So Murphy was actually in love with the farmer's daughter, Elizabeth,
and he didn't really like the fact that she didn't
pay him no never mind, as we say here in
the South, she had no interest. She was actually getting
married to an attorney in East Coast attorney in like
seven days when he told her how he really felt
about her. And the guy was a little bit slow anyway,
he had something they called it, I think it's called
encepha miitas, but it just they called him crazy Johnny
because of it. He just was he was slow, and
so he told her his feelings and obviously she was
an interest, said, and she was very blunt about it.
I'm sure this severely hurt his feelings. And so he said,
you know, hey, I want to marry you. And she's like, no,
you're crazy, Johnny. And I'm marry enough, you know, Richie
East Coast attorney. So, according to different newspaper articles, Johann
accidentally hacked his leg with an axe while he was
angrily chopping wood out of disgust. So he's so he's
pissed off. He's out there, he's got, you know, all
these logs and stuff, and he's just, you know, he's
in a little fit of rage and he's, you know,
just swinging the acts as hard as he can, and
he missed and chopped his leg. And according to which
article you read, because there's a couple of different ones,
one of them said that he did that, one of
them said that he hit hisself in the neck. But
either way, both articles said that he bled to death.
So those are actually documented in the newspaper that there
was a Johann there and.
Speaker 4: He so.
Speaker 3: There's I love this name. The young lady that had
worked at the store at this point, like I said,
this was two thousand and seven. She had worked there
for eighteen years. Her name was Putt put O'Brien. Oh nice,
but she's been stocking shelter, like I said, for eighteen years.
And she said when she started she didn't believe in ghosts.
But she said, when you start filling a breeze behind
you and someone calls your name and there's nobody else there,
and funny things like start to happen, you can't really
explain it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't brush it off for sure.
Speaker 3: She said, rag dolls and toy trucks would just fall
off the shelves, balls would bounce down the owls where
you know, there was nobody at And then she said
baby swings, you know, like the Yeah, she said, those
things would just start swinging on her own. And people
at the toys are us who tried to explain it as
far as like upper management and I guess regionals and
stuff like that. They've tried to explain it logically, but
they can't. Supposedly a lot of this stuff it's called
on surveillance camera.
Speaker 6: Oh well, I mean, at least they had.
Speaker 3: The proof, so O'Brien said, that several people have had
had the experiences and said that he was kind of
like Casper because he never tried to scare anybody. He
was just more of a prankster, and nobody's ever really
been frightened. O'Brien said that she actually saw Johann once
and she said he was a man in his twenties
and thirties. He was wearing nickers, a white long sleeve
work shirt and a gray tweed snap brim cap.
Speaker 6: I can still see that in my brain.
Speaker 3: Back in too, because I saw a picture of.
Speaker 4: He did look like him.
Speaker 3: Oh well, it wasn't his actual picture, but you know
how they always do, like a characterization or something. Now,
another time, she said she heard the sound of a
galloping horse because supposedly he used to exercise the horses
on the farm, so that would make sense too. And
these days he just likes to play with the staff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well he's fine. That's a good thing.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: A few examples of the things that he likes to
do prank wise, I guess is there's a strong smell
of flowers in Aisle fifteen C right next to the
Mickey Mouse do And on one occasion there were some
men that were actually waxing the floors, and a teddy
bear appeared in each one of the owls as they
moved the equipment through. So they would get through with
one alcal on the other and there's a teddy bear.
Then they would move and get to another out there's
a teddy bear. And so that's kind of, you know,
prankster type. Yeah. Now, but the question is is all
this just a gimmick? Now? The store manager at the time,
Stephanie Lewis, she said that it's very good publicity, she'll
admit that, but personally she didn't believe in any of it,
even though everybody's got like saying she's the store manager.
Speaker 6: She said she didn't believe even after she looked at
it on cameras.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much she saw on camera, but
you know, she said she didn't believe it. So now
she said that she might not believe in it, but
she knows plenty of others do. She's admitted that she
had to chase away several teenagers just the week before
coming up. They were actually sitting in front of the
store at four am with a Oigi board trying to conjure.
Speaker 6: Uphos the teenagers were yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh god, she said. She said, at least once a
week someone somebody comes there and they ask about it, uh,
and she said it's usually teenagers but trying to get
her to let them spend the night inside the toy store,
which obviously she can't do. So of course, now she
said that she has female employees that will not go
to the women's bathroom alone. Why because Johann follows him
in there and then he turns on the faucets and
sometimes he actually opens the door for him before they
go in there, So I guess, Aleman apparently, she said
that some longtime employees said that Johann likes to prank
contractors that are just there like for a short time
doing something that toys would actually like jump on the shelf,
and then the contractors would refuse to come back. Now, well, Brian,
we talked about pet put O'Brien earlier. She said she
thinks Johann lives upstairs in a Uh there's like a
corner up there that's really breezy and cool all the time,
and she thinks that's kind of where he hangs out. Yeah,
and she said that when she goes up there to
work that she kind of yells out and says, hey,
I'm just coming up here to work. So yeah, and
that way, she said, he kind of leaves her alone.
Oh Now, some of the pranksy pools are harmless, but
it's still spooky because you're usually alone, and most people
with anything weird happens when you're alone, it's going to
freak you out. So the question is, if it's haunted,
then why work there? Well, Lisa actually said, and Lisa
didn't want to give her last name, so she's just Lisa.
But Lisa said that it's a good ghost and it's
fun there. And she said one incident she had that
she heard like a mysterious voice whisper through the PA
system through the hole store and it said Lord giveth
Lord taketh away, and they there was nobody, she said,
at the actual intercom to be able to do that,
but it was still going over. So let's go back
to the seance. Photographer built Hi Well actually took a
bunch of pictures and in one of the infrared pictures
you could see a silhouette of a man leaning up
against the shelf, surrounded by a bright light. And I'll
snag that picture and throw it on the Facebook page.
But it actually does look like a man leaning up.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 6: So with him, he sounds cool. I mean, he sounds
like he's harmless.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it would be cool to
hang out in a toys r us. Yeah, so I
think I think we should all go out there before
they file for bankruptcy and close it down, if they
haven't already closed it down.
Speaker 6: I know the one here is still open.
Speaker 3: Well, it's in California, so Tina Oler has probably been there.
Anything we bring up in California, she's been.
Speaker 6: Tina, you need to let usnow be still open.
Speaker 3: I don't know where sunny Bell is. I didn't look
to see where it was in California.
Speaker 6: Sounds like a fun place to live though, Sunnyville.
Speaker 3: Hey, so what do you think we're gonna get into?
Like I said, we're gonna breeze right there is?
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 3: I got a couple of things that I forgot to mention,
some cool Christmas facts that I found interesting. Okay, the
Satan and Santa connection. Have you ever heard about that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 6: I know they got the same letters.
Speaker 3: Right, and that's where it comes in. So it is
Santa really an anagram for Satan. Many people think so,
citing that the fact that Santa is often referred to
as jolly old Saint Nick, just as the devil once
was known as od Nick. Remember the movie with Adam
Sandler Little Nikki.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, worst movie ever.
Speaker 3: It was not the worst movie ever. But the point
of that is he was little Nicky because Satan's name
was Nick.
Speaker 6: You cannot convince me of this, lot one.
Speaker 3: You can't, Okay, So never mind that Saint Nicholas was
a real historical character, because you know, that's really where
it kind of came from. But others claim that Santa
heils from the oppose, the end of the spectrum, as
exemplified by his similarities in Zeus or Odin, identified in
Norse mythology as god of the sky. Like Santa Claus,
Odin ruled from the far north and had an all
seen eye. He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows
when you're awake. Blah blah blah blah. And he gave
gifts to yule Tide to those who honored him. Those
honour ease, by the way, did so at the sight
of the sacred fir tree, not unlike the ones that
we lay out gifts every year at a Christmas tree
in a dang so later interpretation of Santa Claus puts
him actually literally to god like status, which would have
him battling Satan, as he does in a bizarre Mexican
fantasy film called Santa Claus. So I do wonder how
many people be trying to look that up, but it
makes sense, as in some cultures it's believed that Santa
actually made the Devil his Christmas time slave. Note Also,
Santa's alternative moniker, Chris Kringle, said to be taken from
the German Christ Kendall, which means literally Christ child.
Speaker 6: Oh so interesting.
Speaker 3: Now there's that part of it. But let's talk about
the tie in with pagan. It's widely known that the
tradition of Christmas is descended from the ancient Pagan rituals,
notably the Fertility Festival. This celebration involving copious food, drink,
and orgies plenty. Well, always like orgies at Christmas time.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Well maybe you don't. I don't. Maybe that's just me.
But this fell on I guess this fell on the
twenty fourth of December, which is Christmas Eve. But that's
the reason they did is because that was the shortest
day of the year. December twenty fifth was actually vitegrated
as the birth of the Sun because that's the day
that the days start getting progressively longer.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so starting on Christmas Day. And I'm sure most
of you are probably aware, December of twenty fifth was
not the actual birthday of Jesus. Well it's not. Sorry,
that's most people believe that actually was in somewhere in July,
but nobody has pinpoint a date. But in three point
fifty eight d Pope Julius decreed that it would be
celebrated on the twenty fifth, So that's where that goes
back to three fifty a d. That's when they decided
they were going to start doing it on the twenty
fifth every year. So it's kind of a shrewd decision
that combined the Pagan and the Christian festivals, essentially making
the Sun and the Son of God wanted the same.
Because the Pagans did the Sun fenciful, it appears that
it was succeeded in inspiring people to join the Catholic Church,
and that was apparently what the pope's main goal was
when he set that there, So I think it was
meant to try to say, hey, let's combine these two
that'll get people more religious and run to the Catholic church.
Speaker 6: So being slick.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Incidentally, the Yule Tide cookie making so people always
make cookies for Christmas time that actually was reportedly began
in Finland with eight carefully cut cookies, including one of
those shaped representing the power hell h l corresponds directly
to that of the present day Swashtika.
Speaker 4: No way.
Speaker 3: So, and then here's another. This is the short one,
but this was fun Christmas and hungry. In Hungary, Santa
Claus is known as Meculas, or Winter Godfather, and celebrated
via an elaborate series of rituals begin on December fifth,
when children take special bats so they will be extra
cleaned for Mecula's arrival. They also put out shoes for
him to fill with goodies in observance of the three
gold bags. But there is this one thing, because only
the good children get the goodies, the bad ones get
a golden birch so they can be beaten with it.
Speaker 6: Oh oh man, in this so interesting, How seriously people
around the world celebrate Christmas. Yep, it's very interesting.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I want to get into the story I
told you about little boy and his dead best friend. Now,
this story actually goes back to nineteen ninety six, and
as you can hear a nainje of snoring over the background.
But this story goes back to nineteen ninety six and
it involves a little boy named Jake who was about
five years old at the time. And what basically happened
is Jake's mom, Pam, was a single mom and she
was raising Jake all on her own, obviously, and she
was living with her parents at the time, and she
worked at a little gas station, and she had a
young lady that she worked with named Stacy that was
in a similar situation. She lived with her parents. She
had a single kid about the same age as Jake.
His name was Chris. So Stacy and Pam became really
good friends, as did Jake and Chris. And like I said,
for about two years, they were inseparable. They even had
you know, chicken pox buddies. They got chicken pox together,
they were in cub Scouts together, they hung out NonStop.
But about the time Jake had his seventh birthday, which
was the last time him and Chris saw each other.
His mom had remarried and had been remarried for a
while and had still been living with her mom, and
they decided to go ahead and get a place to
their own, and they moved out. But this place was
about an hour away in a different county, so Jake
and christ they didn't get to see each other. Shortly
after the birthday though, Chris, who was still living with
his mom at her parents' house, the grandfather was actually
watching him and they were outside him. Chris were in
the garage. He was tinkering around with his car, and
he said he left for just a minute. It seemed
like a minute. It was a little longer than obviously,
but he went into the house to grab something. And
when he came back out in the corner there were
a big pile of poles or pipes metal that had
been up in the corner and all of them had
fell down and they were laying on top of Chris.
He moved on me called nine one, but by the
time nine one one had gotten there, Chris had passed away.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, bless his heart.
Speaker 3: Well, Jake's mom, Pam felt like that it would be
good for Jake to go to the services the visitation,
and so she did. She took him to the visitation,
and not too long after that, Jake started having an
imaginary friend named Chris. She obviously was semi concerned because
you know, she didn't know what was taking him to
the visitation the wrong thing to do and is what
was calling it. And she talked to some other parents,
and all of the other parents were like, now this
is just his way of processing and everything would be fine. Well,
this continued on for a little bit, and about this time,
Pam and her husband started going through an ugly divorce.
And I keep in mind I hadn't been together that long.
I mean this is they had only been moved out
about six months to their new place, but they started
going through an ugly divorce. So her and Jake moved
back in with her mom. And now it's Christmas time.
It's been about six seven months since Chris's death, and
so they decide to go to Walmart, and you know,
Jake's all excited. They're going through and they're looking at
you know, they got Christmas lights and they got the
Christmas trees, and they're discussing what they're going to put up,
so he's super excited. Then they get to the toyoule.
You can imagine how a seven year old is a
Christmas time in the toyole and you know, So they're
walking around it and Jake looks up and there's one
of those you know, those like white plastic guitars that
had like the little keyboard things on them, so you
hit him in it, but it's not really guitar. It's
just got the buttons that you push. This was up
on the top shelf and Jake was like, oh, man,
I'd like to I'd like to see that. Well, the
mom was only like five foot two and her her
mom was no taller, so they were like, well, I
can't reach that. So they start looking at the into
the owl for an associate at Walmart. And he said
a few seconds after that, they heard it start playing,
but it was still up on the top shelf, and
so they're they're looking they see it playing, but they
you know, and and they're still looking for an associate
at this time, and it falls and her and her
mom were just like stunned. And Jake said, Jake said,
I told you Chris could get it. He can do
anything now, and they were so freaked out that they
just grabbed him and they left, and you know, they
started thinking about it and they was like, man, you know,
years went by and Jake now as an adult and
has his own kids and married, he don't remember much
about that day. But his mom was telling his wife,
you know, this is exactly what happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it.
Speaker 3: Kind of freaked her out a little bit. But then
she said that she had separated from Stacy. They really
hadn't talked to each other, and she called she ran
into her and this was you know after now Jake
was already grown and she was telling her about that story,
and Stacey told her, she said, you know, Chris never left.
What she said, you know, we were having similar situations.
And she said, and we had another kid in two
thousand and three, which was what you're looking at, seven
years after Chris had passed away. Huh. She said, we
had a little girl. And she said, as soon as
she started able to talk, she said she had an
imaginary friend and his name was Chris.
Speaker 6: That's so sweet.
Speaker 3: So that's my little Christmas story.
Speaker 6: I love that story and makes my heart happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a really cool story. I thought,
I thought it was cool.
Speaker 6: It's very good.
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna breeze right along. So we're gonna tell
this story. Uh, this story. I'm just gonna ready. So
it's gonna be a little different, but it's very disturbing nonetheless.
So I'll try to do my best, you know, Mike
Brown slash Aaron Mankey and just try to actually be
professional for once instead of just champer. All right, So
seven year old Henry Childers crawled reluctantly under the covers
of his bed. But Mom, he whined, I'm not sleepy.
Can't I stay up for another few hours? It's almost
ten already, His mother, Tanya said, with an indulgent smile.
If you don't get to sleep, Santa won't stop here tonight.
Do you think Sanna got my letter this year, Henry asked,
sitting up against the headboard. Well, I'm sure he did, honey,
because I don't want it to be like last year.
Tanya sighed heavily and rubbed her temples. She'd been hearing
this same tirade from her son for an entire year now, Henry,
there was nothing wrong with the gift you got from Santa.
Last year. Well, I asked for an Xbox, and he
gave me a PlayStation. It's not the same as I've
told you a hundred times. Maybe Santa was all out
of xboxes, Tanya said, pulling the covers up just under
Henry's chin. She and her husband had gone to every
store in the city looking for an Xbox last year,
but they'd all been sewd out. It had been a
PlayStation or nothing, but still it hadn't satisfied Henry. I
mailed my letter to him in October last year. Henry said.
They gave him plenty of time to have his l's
whip me up an Xbox. Henry, Tanya said, a little
more sharply than she'd intended. You're being awfully ungrateful. There
are children in the world that'd have nothing if you
don't start being more appreciative of Santa. May just decided
to just skip over our house altogether this year, okay,
Henry said, his lower lip poked out like a shelf.
I'm sorry. Just get to sleep, Tanya said, leaning over
and kissing her son on the forehead. When you wake
up in the morning, you just might find that that
bike you've been wanting is waiting under the tree three
for you. Do you think Santa will like the cookies
and milk we left out for him, Henry asked, I'm
sure he will. He will think they're delicious. I'll see
you in the morning, sweetie. Tanya turned off the light,
the small nightlight plugged into the electrical socket by the closet,
throwing a muted yellow glow throughout the room. She eased
the door closed, leaving Henry to dream of Christmas morning.
Do you think it's safe to start Jonas's childers, asked
his wife. They were sitting in a living room watching
a Sci Fi Channel marathon of Silent Night Deadly Night films.
Tanya glanced at the clock saw that it was just
past one o'clock in the morning. He should be sound
asleep by now. She said, I think we can get
started good. Jonah said, I'll probably take me till don
to get this damn bike put together anyway. So they
went up to the attic, carefully to avoid all the
squeakiest boards, and brought down all of Henry's presence. Tanya
began arranging all the smaller gifts around the tree, while
Jonas unfolded the instructions for the bike and began to
assemble it. Shit Jonas cursed under his brea trying to
fit together two pieces as simply refused to fit together.
As much trouble as this is, Henry better liked to
stand bike. Tanya knelt next to her husband, took the
uncooperative pieces and easily snapped them together. Are you kidding?
He'll absolutely love it? He better. I don't want to
have to go through another year hearing him bitch and
moan like he did about that damned PlayStation. It did
get a little bit tiresome, Tanya said, with a giggle.
But Henry just wants what he wants and he won't
settle for anything else. Like mother like son. Tanya swatted
her husband on the arm and said, that's not true.
I settled for you after all. Very funny, Jonah said,
how about you settle for passing me those cookies. Tanya
had baked a batch of oatmeal raising cookies, half of
which her family had eaten, the other half of which
had been placed on a plate for Santa Claus. She
took the plate and handed it to her husband, who
immediately inhaled two of the cookies. Careful Tanya said, reading
over the instructions, he keeps that up, you'll assume be
as fat as Sanna. This isn't for me, Jonas said,
around a mouthful of cookies, spewing crumbs like a fine mist.
It's for Henry. Think how disappointed he would be if
he woke up and saw that Santa hadn't eaten the
cookies that he left for him. She said, don't talk
with your mouthful with a smile. Hand me with the milk, please.
They did not leave out a glass of milk for Santa,
since they were afraid that it would curdle, but they
placed it in the thermist to keep it cold. Tanya
passed the thermist to her husband. Jonas popped the top
on the thermost and gouped down several swallows of milk.
Suddenly he wretched, spitting milk into the air like a geyser,
the thermist dropping from his hand and leaking its contents
onto the carpet. Jonas clutched the throat, making strange gagging noises.
His milk and blood dribbled down his chin. Tanya screamed
and grabbed her husband as he collapsed onto her lap.
His body was jerking with violent spasms, his eyes rolling
up to the whites. He coughed violently, and more frothy
blood sprayed Tanya's arms, and she thought there were chunks
of tissue mixed in with it. Oh God, jonas she screamed,
crying on what should I do? What's going on? Henry said,
as he stepped into the room, wearing his pajamas, rubbing
asleep dust from his eyes. I heard screaming, Henry, get
the phone and call nine one one, Tanya yelled, frantically.
Something's wrong with your father. He needs an ambulance right away.
What is it? Henry asked, white eyed. Stepping further into
the room, Henry called nine one one Now. Henry started
to turn towards the phone, but then he spotted the
spilled thermas of milk and froze. Did Dad drink the milk?
He asked, snatching up the thermis and waving it at
his mother. What Tanya said, filling her husband's spasms, tampering off,
afraid to even contemplate what that might mean? Your father
needs help? Did Dad drink that milk? Henry said, again,
his old stubborn self. This milk was for Santa Claus,
not Dad, Henry, Tanya screamed, desperate, tears of frustration and
helplessness streaking down her face. This isn't the time. This
milk was for Santa Claus, not for Dad, Henry roared,
throwing the thermost across the room. A numbness began to
spread throughout Tanya's body, starting to her chest and reaching
through to her limbs. Comprehension came slowly, and it made
her feel cold inside, cold and empty. What did you do?
She croaked, her voice raw and raspy. Henry, what did
you do to the milk? I poured draino in it?
He said, matter of factly, as if stating that he
had just brushed his teeth. Tanya was on her feet
in an instant, the still form of her husband stretched
out on the floor. She grabbed Henry by the shoulders
and shook him, shook him hard. Why would you do
such a thing, she shouted into his face. Whin in
the name of God, would you do such a thing?
I wanted an xbox, Henry shouted back, wrenching out of
his mother's grasp. Not a PlayStation, an xbox, and Santa
knew that he knew that and he gave me the
wrong thing. Anyway, I wanted to teach him a lesson,
make him pay for giving me the wrong gift last year, dude.
Tanya stumbled back, hands in her mouth and watched as
her son turn and ran into the room, slamming the
door behind him. She snatched up the phone and quickly
down nine one one while Santa chopped up a topless
teenager on the television behind her.
Speaker 6: The end, Santa chopped up a topless teenager.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were watching Solid Night Deadly Night Marathon.
Speaker 6: Remember, Oh my gosh, what a brat. I cannot you know. Okay,
that's a terrible story. And actually seen a video something'
slort like this on Facebook the other day and it's
so much like it, only the kid wanted an Xbox
or something like that. Well his brother, the parents got
his brother one. Well the brother didn't even ask for one,
and they was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe
y'all got me this. I didn't even ask you for this,
and he got something random. I don't even know what
it was. This kid got so mad he literally threw
a fit like he was like a teenager though upper
teenager through a fit, grabbed the Christmas tree, drugg it
outside in the yard and put gasoline all over it
and caught it on fire. Okay, just because he didn't
get what he wanted and his brother got what he wanted.
Speaker 3: Well, at this point they weren't gonna need to treat
much longer anyway, though.
Speaker 6: Well I understand that, but I'm telling you, this kid,
it was so ridiculous. So his dad ended up chasing
him around the yard and tell him he's crazy. And
this kid's like screaming at his parents like I can't
believe y'all didn't blah blah blah blah. And his mom
was like, come in here. She's after trying to put
the tree out with the fire extinguisher. It was just
a whole thing. And so finally his mom said, come
in here, come in here. She had a damn Xbox
for him the whole time. Huh, she just hadn't given
it to him yet. But this was like an eighteen
or nineteen year old Okay, I mean, are you serious?
I mean, this was like a real thing.
Speaker 3: And then she still gave it to him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh of course she did. Because in as soon
as she as soon as he saw that he had won,
oh mom, and started hugging her enabler. I mean seriously,
it was I mean his brother was like, oh my god,
are you kidding me? What are you doing this?
Speaker 3: I didn't get any good gifts like that as a kid. Anyway, Well,
every damn gift I got as a kid could be
turned around and used against me, Like those little paddle
ball games. You know, you got the paddle ball game,
and then when the you know that she's got the
little rubber ball on it and the rubber band. Oh yeah, yeah,
and then once the ball broke off of it, they
would use it to beat your ass with.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: Or I would get like a racetrack, either a train
track or a car racetrack, and then they would beat
me with those pieces of trays. You can't you can't
do that today. You're not gonna beat a kid with
the damn three hundred dollars PS four.
Speaker 6: I mean you, Oh my gosh. It was the craziest thing.
I was just like, so, I guess the moral of
the story is people just be grateful for what you get.
Loved one an, the family is the most important thing.
And if you're that hateful of me, to try to
kill Santa Claus. You've already got the devil in you,
that's for sure. That's a terrible story.
Speaker 3: I think it's been a fun and lightning Christmas episode though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, it has been.
Speaker 3: And I can't think of any better way to end
it than talking about serial killer facts. Okay, so let's
do that, all right, Well.
Speaker 6: Let's here are some facts about stupid people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ember, Like I said, most of you know where
she's from, Colored me Dead, and she decided to step
back a couple of weeks ago, and she's working on
a new show with her husband, and she talks a
little bit about that. But I thought it would be
fun to have her on because she's got some downtime now.
Speaker 6: And yeah, she's a pretty cool chick to love to
be somebody fun to hang out with, for sure.
Speaker 3: Since she lives in Utah and really far she actually
lives really close to Skinwalker Ranch, so she's got all
kinds of stories. And you probably have no clue what
I'm talking about it. Skinwalker Ranch is actually everybody out
here will know about Skinrocker Ranch. It's actually a really
famous story. A lot of bizarre stuff from the UFO
to Sasquatch. I think all happening right there, and it's
in Utah, So okay, very cool. So let's take a
listen to Amber. All right, we are joined on the
phone by our special guest for the evening. We kind
of teased it a little bit lad week and told
you that we had another podcaster that was going to
join us for a segment this week and maybe an
ongoing deal. We might do this a couple more times
over the next couple of months. But I wanted to
welcome to the phone. I guess I suld say to
the show rather than the phone should not. Yeah, well,
we'll welcome to the show, Miss Ember Hammond, who is
the former host of the Color Me Dead podcast Amber,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Welcome, Hi, Hi, Hi, everybody.
Speaker 3: You sound super excited.
Speaker 4: How is everybody doing.
Speaker 6: We are fantastic.
Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm always excited. That's just me. Good for you,
but I'm just excited to talk to you guys.
Speaker 3: Do I have to warn you ahead of time that
we have a family friendly show.
Speaker 6: And it doesn't matter. You can do what you want.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you have never listened to one episode ever
in my life Insert all sarcasm.
Speaker 3: Well, and if you listen to a couple of shows
back when the Brohile guys were on, I think it's
obvious that it really doesn't matter what gets said during
these interviews.
Speaker 7: Well, you see, I listened to that one, so I
will be sure to don my halo and be a
good person.
Speaker 3: So I would gonna jump into what we're gonna do.
And we've got a very cool segment set up that
you've got all laid out for us, and we talked
a little bit about it earlier. But before we get
into what we're gonna do for our show, I thought
we would just basically talk a few minutes about you
and what's going on with you. Most people who listen
to the show know that you've stepped away from Color
Me Dead for some personal reasons, and I thought i'd
give you a couple of seconds just tell everybody what
was going on in your life.
Speaker 7: Oh well, geez, Okay, Long story short is it's hard
to it's hard to podcast and work around three separate schedules.
Speaker 4: Angel and Nikki and I we are.
Speaker 7: All also mothers and and so we always try to
do it at a time that worked best. But unfortunately
my kids always not that they got pushed aside, but
podcasting is a full time thing, and they were tired
of me always researching or being on my phone or
having to do certain things and being told hold on
just a minute, you know, I got something to do.
Speaker 4: And finally my oldest to a six, looked at me
and he said a few things and he basically told
me that I.
Speaker 7: Was done, and I agreed with him, so I was, yeah,
I mean, when a six year old tells you some
stuff and hits you right in the hearththole. He told
me that he wanted to ask Santa if he could
be a podcast so I would want to spend more.
Speaker 4: Time with him.
Speaker 7: So yeah, kids have a way of like ripping your
heart out and stepping on it. So that's when I
was like, Okay, I'm done. So I was trying to
figure out a way how can I still podcast and
do this full time because I love I love podcasting.
I didn't know that I would love it as much
until I got into it, and I love the whole
process of it and I research anyways, It's a form
of therapy for me.
Speaker 4: So it was a way to.
Speaker 7: Also utilize what I do, and I was trying to think,
and the only way that I could do it is
if I sat down, and if I gave myself a
few months, do a whole bunch of research, do a
whole bunch of recording, have a whole bunch.
Speaker 4: Of editing done.
Speaker 7: That way there's a nice nest egg, if that makes sense,
So in case.
Speaker 4: If something happens, you don't have to worry about meeting
up with schedules. You have a fallback.
Speaker 7: And also if I could record at night after all
my kids went to bed, well, unfortunately, at night that's
when Angel's family is all home and she can spend
time with them. And Nikki is now a single mom
with three kids. She can't load up her three kids
and come over at nine o'clock at night. I can't
load up my three kids and come over to her
house at nine o'clock at night. So there was never
going to be a permanent solutionshan.
Speaker 4: To be able to just manage it all for long term.
And so I couldn't look my little six year old
in the face anymore and tell them, you know, things
will be fine.
Speaker 7: So that's why I decided to step away, and I
gave the girls all the stuff, and I hope them
the best and I'm sure that they will make awesome
things out of it. We're all we're all still cool,
like there's nothing wrong that way.
Speaker 4: Just family always comes first.
Speaker 6: So of course it's just kind of bad timing, I guess,
but the timing will come and then it'll be great.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And the one cool thing is uh my husband, Quinn.
He's been on our show more than once. He was
our disclaimer of voice.
Speaker 4: He's the Color Me Dead boys, the voice of David Parker.
Speaker 7: Ray in episodes I think twenty through twenty three.
Speaker 4: And his voice has been very sought after. People love
his voice nice.
Speaker 7: And we've always kind of played around with doing our
own podcast, and Color Me Dad just took up so
much time that that wasn't a thing.
Speaker 4: So now that I don't have to worry about that, we're.
Speaker 7: Kind of we're gonna move forward and we're gonna have
our own podcasts and it's.
Speaker 4: Gonna it's gonna branch away from Color Me Dead. I'm
changing completely how I want.
Speaker 7: Us to talk about things, and we'll talk about all
all those subjects that you can't bring up around random strangers.
Speaker 4: Well you can, but you're gonna get weird looks, so right.
Speaker 7: Usually that's my go to because I'm not a very
around crowds. I'm a very shy person, and so usually
if people talk to me a whole bunch, I spout
off random facts about the serial killer because either they're
gonna love me or they're gonna leave me alone, and
I'm okay with either.
Speaker 3: So well, well, that's gonna be a good segue into
what we're gonna be doing here tonight, because we have
a little segment called Ember's Killer Facts. And what we're
gonna do is you have prepared a list of one
to ten of random facts about serial killers, and me
and Tracy going to take turns picking numbers, and if
we don't get through all of them this time, we'll
do this again, which is the intention, and uh, we're
just going to have some fun with it. So are
you ready for this trade?
Speaker 6: I'm ready.
Speaker 3: I will let Tracy And first of all, before we
get into this, I had no idea that was Quinn
on the begin at the beginning of your shows doing
the disclaimer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, that's my husband.
Speaker 3: He does have an awesome voice. I had no clue.
I just thought that was something you'll had professionally done.
Speaker 4: Nope, nope. I I've sat my husband down and I said,
make you have a good voice that can.
Speaker 7: Be stern and understood and it's deep and it's awesome,
and so do it. And he's actually been on a
different podcast from one of our friends. I say Corpus
del Taco now because there was this whole thing, but
it's Corpus Delicti or however people want to say it.
Speaker 4: And so he's been on their show before, so it's
kind of cool.
Speaker 6: That is cool. So he's going to be hooked and
ready to go when you're all ready to do.
Speaker 4: It, exactly, exactly, exactly. So serial killer facts, all.
Speaker 3: Right, pick a number, any number, Tracy, pick a.
Speaker 7: Number, number number sick. Oh look you picked John Wayne Gacy.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 7: Ha fun, fun fun. So if people don't know who
John Wayne Gacy is, oh my gosh, my dog was
so loud. I am so sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't allow dogs on the show, man, I'm
so sorry.
Speaker 4: But John Wayne Gacy was also known as Pogo the Clown.
Speaker 7: He unfortunately was a total piece of work, and he
murdered thirty three boys that we know of, and he
hid most of them.
Speaker 4: Under his Carl Space in his house. Yeah.
Speaker 7: So my fun little fact about him is, and it's
probably I don't know, I never know what it's like
super well known and what it's not, but he was
actually photographed with the firstly at the time, so Rosalind Carter,
as he was receiving his Secret Service clearance. He's probably
the only serial killer that we knew love that was
actually granted Secret Service clearance.
Speaker 3: Obviously they did a great job of checking that.
Speaker 4: Out mm hmmm.
Speaker 7: And it was just because he was such a prominent
member and he was very much a Democratic Party activist,
and he was always.
Speaker 4: Doing things within his community.
Speaker 7: And that's how he got his clearance.
Speaker 4: So I've always found that weird because that's what everybody says.
Speaker 7: Obviously, back in the day, they didn't do their research
very well.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny. I have a little John Wayne
Gacy story that actually I was researching for this particular
show trying to find some scary Christmas stories, and one
of the stories I ran across was actually a little
girl said that when she was well, she went a
little girl at the time or when she told the story,
but when she was a little girl, she can remember
her dad having a conversation. It was Christmas time and
all the relatives were over and she walked into the
room and they just quit talking, and she said he
seemed like he was visibly disturbed. And years later she
found out that what he talked about every year this
got brought up is that when he was younger, him
and a friend decided to go to a gay bar.
And when they were at this gay bar, this guy
approached him was talking about he had some work that
he needed done for his house and invited him and
his buddy over, and he decided, you know, I just
got a funny feeling about this guy. I'm not gonna
do it. But his buddy did go over there to
work on his house and he was one of the
guys that they found in his cross space.
Speaker 4: Wow, So that's crazy.
Speaker 6: You just do not know people.
Speaker 4: I mean you really don't. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean somebody that can just be in the public
guy like that, And I mean you just don't know
what goes on behind closed doors. That is really scary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you just side eye everybody. Yeah, made
this play it safe. Yeah, and don't trust anybody.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got one a.
Speaker 4: Couple Oh, hold on, I'm not done. Well, sorry, I
was also just gonna say I don't.
Speaker 7: Know how many people knew that he was also a
mortician's assistant, which is how he knew how to handle
bodies and how he was able to hide them under
his crawl space for.
Speaker 4: So long without his wife or his children finding him.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I had no clue.
Speaker 3: Wow, do you have some do you have some more?
Can I go on with our show?
Speaker 4: You can? You can lead your show now. I deeply apologize.
Speaker 6: That was that was really interesting because I guess if
so he was worked with a mortician that I mean,
he had to have the smell somehow.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he probably probably used the line or the
line all the other stuff that they tend to use.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, yeah, are you done now? Because I have
a question?
Speaker 4: Question?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Well, okay, it's not really a question. I
just have a number, number.
Speaker 7: Two, number two. Oh, you pick my favorite one. Okay,
So we're going to talk about Richard Chase, now.
Speaker 3: Dick Chase, who is.
Speaker 7: Also Dick Chase, Dick Trent and Chase. He was another
serial killer. And unfortunately, the reason why I love this
case so much is because it's also extremely tragic.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 7: He had schizophrenia, very very severe, and even as a teenager,
he knew something was wrong, and he went to different doctor.
There's numerous times saying there's something wrong with me, Please
help me, Please help me, and they would help him
for a time.
Speaker 4: But this was also in.
Speaker 7: The seventies and so they didn't really have a full
grasp on schizophrenia like they do now, and so they
would hospitalize and medicate him for a little while.
Speaker 4: And then let him be released.
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, his mom's way and his parents' way of handling
that was let's just take him and put him in
his own apartment, completely isolated, which is the worst thing
that you can do. And yeah, he was also known
as the vampire Sacramento.
Speaker 4: He drank victim's blood.
Speaker 7: He was actually shooting himself up with rabbit's blood throughout
different times when he was trying to get help because
he felt that his heart was.
Speaker 4: Going to turn into powder and he.
Speaker 7: Was losing blood and all this different things that way.
But as far as his fun fact is, he used
to actually blend up body parts and mix it with
coca cola to make a kind of weird milkshake out
of it. Yeah, definitely not two things I would ever
put together.
Speaker 4: But you know, who am I to judge?
Speaker 6: That's what I do the best.
Speaker 3: Well, if if one of his victims' name was Hope,
he could be making Hope floats.
Speaker 6: Okay, that was a stretch.
Speaker 4: Oh you. He also thought that the way that he
could absorb.
Speaker 7: Vitamin see better was to put orange pills on his head,
so he would randomly pill an orange and then just
put him on his head and walk around for a while.
Speaker 6: Well, I'll be dang, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: That's one. That's one fact that I didn't know about it.
A matter of fact, I think I actually posted that
this week on the on the Facebook page. Is one
of the little twisted thoughts.
Speaker 4: Gosh, well see look at you go. You don't even
need me.
Speaker 3: It was luck stop. I fell into it.
Speaker 6: I haven't any of this stuff. This is so interesting.
Speaker 3: But then again, she's not heard of any of the
stuff we do on our show.
Speaker 4: So maybe she just pretends that way to make you
feel better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably what it is. You're trying to pick
a number of princess.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, little or more?
Speaker 7: Oh dang, no, I mean there could be more, but
I would just give you a full episode.
Speaker 4: On it, and so no, you can pick another number.
Speaker 6: Four.
Speaker 4: Four, Okay, So number four is Danny Rowling who is
also known as the.
Speaker 7: Gainesville Ripper, and he was obviously another serial killer who
murdered five students in Gainesville, Florida, and then later he
confessed to raping several of his victims.
Speaker 4: And he also.
Speaker 7: Did a triple homicide in Louisiana, and he attempted to
murder his dad, and he ultimately confessed to killing eight people. Now,
his little fun facts, which isn't really a fun fact.
I mean, if you look into the murder at all,
you're gonna know. But what he did with his victims
is after he had murdered them, he would usually pose
them in provocative poses and like set up mirrors and stuff,
so when whoever found them, they would find this dead
body doing inappropriate things to itself. And one time he
actually decapitated one of the women and set her head
up above to where it was looking down on her
body doing the inappropriate things.
Speaker 4: A real piece of work.
Speaker 3: What a sick.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he also has Sadly, he has a very
beautiful singing voice. I've actually heard one of his tapes
before of him singing, and if you never knew him
and you just heard his stuff, like you'd be like, oh,
he sounds really good.
Speaker 4: I really like him.
Speaker 7: And then you find out who it is and it's
just bone chilling because you're like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: This person is terrible.
Speaker 6: All is wrong.
Speaker 4: It goes back into that whole thing you can't trust anybody.
Just when you think you're safe, you're not.
Speaker 3: I wonder how many people's chairs would turn around on
the voice if he.
Speaker 4: Was on there, probably all four. He has a great voice.
Speaker 3: My goodness, that'd be the interview i'd like to see afterwards.
Let's just talk about where he grew up. He had
a rough childhood, tried to kill his.
Speaker 4: Dad, no big deal.
Speaker 7: Yeah he was Actually he was put to death in
two thousand and six by lethal injection, thankfully, So that
makes it mpy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has a big waste of space. We don't
need him around.
Speaker 3: No, we do not. All right, we'll do one more
and we'll finish up on this one eleven.
Speaker 7: Eleven That was not one through ten, But you're lucky
that I have an elevens.
Speaker 3: Let's do let's do number eight.
Speaker 4: Oh you cut out number one eight number eight. Oh okay.
Speaker 7: So this is actually a case that I'm I will
be featuring, and it's about the Snowtown murders. And the
Snowtown murders were South Australia. And what's funny is back
when I was with Color Me Dead, I had said
that I've always wanted to cover the story, but what
you can find on the Internet versus what you can
find through other sources are two completely different things. And
there was this book that I really really wanted, but
who's like fifty dollars or something, and so I was like, oh,
it will be a minute. And one of my good friends,
her name is Sonya, she actually had the book and
she sent it to me.
Speaker 4: So I've been reading through that and it's fascinating.
Speaker 7: But my fun fact about the Snowtown murder in South
Australia is there were four people that committed the crimes
and there were for at least six bodies.
Speaker 4: Found, but none of them.
Speaker 7: They're all found in the town of Snowtown, but none
of the people involved wherever from Snowtown.
Speaker 4: It's like a body dump site, which is usually.
Speaker 7: Pretty rare because usually where somebody is found, they're usually
from there or somebody's from there, and in this case,
nobody was from there, So unfortunately, Snowtown just kind of
got crapped on.
Speaker 4: And one of the old there was this old.
Speaker 7: Lady that had a shot there and she had a dark,
twisted sense of humor, and I wish, I wish that
she was still doing stuff. She actually made almost like ceramic,
but I don't know ceramic things, sculptures, whatever.
Speaker 4: And it was a barrel because.
Speaker 7: They found all these people in bats of acid and
stuff in an old bank.
Speaker 4: And she had this little barrel that had a head.
Speaker 7: And like a foot sticking out that would say Snowtown
on it. And she would also have magnets that would
have barrels on it and would say welcome to Snowtown.
Were barrels of fun, right, Like you don't want to
laugh because it's horrible.
Speaker 4: That is hilarious.
Speaker 3: Well, I love all the true crime stuff, as far
as you know. I don't. I don't necessarily love like
every story, but I love certain stories like we just
did you know Room ten forty six. I think that's fascinating,
The HH Holmes stuff, Jack the Ripper, I think all
those are interesting. Yeah, But like there's a couple that
I end up I want to cover it, whether it
be a patron episode or the regular episode. But the
town of Dreaded Sundown, the movie was based on the
textar Cana Murderser. I think that would be an awesome
story to do, so I plan on doing that one.
I love a lot of the cult stuff, like the
Jonestown massacre. As a matter of fact, we've got a
listener of ours up in Germany. She's one of our
military listeners. She sent me something that a friend had
put together, but it was I guess they had to
go in there and clean up the bodies after the fact,
and it was like the first hand account of what
went on then, which I've never heard anything about. So
I've got that little tidbit of information that I'm just
going to hold on to that Victoria sent us. And
when I do that story, hopefully it'll add something to
it that nobody else has been able to put to it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I hope.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 7: I love I love different colds, especially that, especially that story.
That one's always fascinated me ever since I was little,
and I like different things. There's a lot of most of.
Speaker 4: Your more popular serial killers that we all know about.
Most of them I find annoying. And I don't know why.
Speaker 3: It's because Ted Bundy. Ted Bundy, like, for example, all
anybody talks about him was how good luck and he
was It's like, that's you.
Speaker 4: You can't mention did you see his face?
Speaker 3: Well compared to other ones, compared to like Richard Ramirez
and uh uh some of these other ones. So John
Wayne Gacy, I guess he was pretty attractive.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's still I don't know. He kind of
looks like a cross eyed Siamese cat to me. So,
but yeah, like a lot of them, a lot of
your heavy hitters.
Speaker 4: I don't really it's not I don't know. I just
feel like they.
Speaker 7: Were overinflated when there are so many other ones that,
once you start digging into that are way more I
don't know, tragic, interesting, The psychology of it is way better.
Speaker 4: Like I don't know how to explain.
Speaker 3: It, but well Ed Dean is one of the big
ones that actually lived up to the hype, though, I mean,
he had so many factors and when and I thought
Dahmer was kind of like that too. They're the bigger
names but they have so many different facets right.
Speaker 4: Right, and well ed Dean he was more.
Speaker 7: He was just pretty much just goulish and disgusting, and
I you know, that was one of the last cases
that I really did, was color me dead and reading
through different things I've gone through, and I've thought a
bunch of different things about him.
Speaker 4: But still at the end of the day, we have
ed gan to think for most of our horror films,
that story kind of was the birth of a lot
of different things.
Speaker 7: I mean, they had Psycho and then Texas Chainsaw Massacre,
and he was gleaned from the silence of the lambs,
and with all those are different create you know, like
creative juices, And so would our her history be what
it is.
Speaker 4: Today without him? I don't think so.
Speaker 7: So I think that's why he's most well known, and
it was also very shocking for its time. It's one
thing to kill somebody, but it's another thing to decorate
your house with them after they're dead.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, yeah, you know, he's no Martha Stewart,
but you know.
Speaker 4: He was a Martha Stewart. I mean, he did not
put anything the waste. Did you see that skin lamp?
Some fine qualitality.
Speaker 3: Amber. It's been a fantastic having you on the show.
It's been a long time coming. I tried to get
you on back months ago when schedules just didn't allow.
But it was fun having you on and I greatly
appreciate it, and I know Tracy does, and I think
all the listeners are going to love it because what
we're finding out with the last show we did that
was more of a true crime based show than paranormal.
It's gotten the most listens we've ever gotten our show,
so I think people will love hearing this little bit
on here.
Speaker 4: Well, that's awesome, and thanks for having me on. I
love your guys' show.
Speaker 7: I've listened to you since pretty much it started into podcasting.
I think I randomly found you guys on Twitter some
say one time and I'm like, hmm.
Speaker 4: Let's listen, and I listened and I enjoy you guys.
Speaker 7: So I've been trying to play it cool and not
act like I'm fangirling.
Speaker 4: So I hope it's working.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you'ret We're just honored to have you on our show.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you guys so much for having me, and
I hope that you guys have a wonderful evening.
Speaker 6: All right, we don't talk to you having merry Christmas.
Speaker 7: Okay, oh, yes, you do the very same. I forget
that Christmas is so soon. So yeah, have a merry
Christmas guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, will Yeah, this episode actually comes out on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 6: Oh cool.
Speaker 4: Oh well, Merry Christmas Eve. Everybody, have a lovely day.
Speaker 3: All right, We'll talk to you later.
Speaker 4: All right, see you guys, Bye bye.
Speaker 3: So that's Amberg and her little Killer facts. I thought
that was a pretty cool little segment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's learned a lot. Actually, she, like I.
Speaker 3: Said, is going to have her new show, and when
she gets it up and running, will help her. But
I think she said that, you know, we're looking at
probably March.
Speaker 6: After the holiday on that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be kind of fun. Also, also, what's gonna
be fun? You probably heard at the beginning of the show,
we ran a promo for Mirths and Monsters. That's actually
c K or Kevin Classic Kevin, depends on what you
want to call him, but I prefer I prefer Kevin,
but he goes he goes by c K for and
he got his name Classic Kevin from the Girls from
and that's why we drink. Yeah, they did that the
episode about the the death chair that was like a
haunted chair. I supposed if you touch it, and he
actually went up to it, and he went to the
chair and actually took pictures of him touching and stuff
like that, and they were going on, it's classic Kevin, classic,
so he started using the term classic Kevin.
Speaker 6: So brave.
Speaker 3: But they've actually helped him a whole lot in getting
started and all that, and we talk a lot on Facebook.
So we're going to actually set him up the first
week of January. We're going to do an interview and
come on. So if you haven't heard his show yet,
First of all, he's got a coole ass Scottish accent,
so that's the first thing. He'll be the Firstcottish accent
we've had on the show. But his show is very clean,
it's very family oriented, it's funny, it's short. They're only
like twenty thirty minutes long. But yeah, if you like
myths and legends, which I absolutely love, he's kind of
it's similar to that in the fact that it's kind
of funny and he's talking about, you know, some folklore
and myths and legends. Stuff like that. But it's a
really cool show. And like I said, it's very kid friendly.
So if you've got children out there that like listening
to podcasts, it's the perfect show for him to listen to.
So and plus he got nominated and actually was like
in the top five and those podcast awards that just
came out. Yeah, and for and you know, for him
being a pretty new show. I think he's only got
fifteen sixteen episodes. Great, but he's an overall great guy.
And I think you guys check it out. So Mirth's
and Monsters wherever you listen to podcasts, give them a listen. Guys,
Merry Christmas, Thank you so much for an awesome year.
I hope everybody has a safe time. Just because we
didn't do it at the beginning, I saved it to the
end for a special but I want to give a
special Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all
of our military and civil servants all over the world.
It's tough being away from your family, and I just
wanted to say that we appreciate everything you guys do
because without you guys making these sacrifice, we wouldn't be
able to do the things that we do, and so
many other people around the world wouldn't be able to
do what they do. You guys give us the gift
of freedom here at Christmas, and there is no bigger
gift than that.
Speaker 6: Amen. Well said, babe.
Speaker 3: We will see you next week.
Speaker 6: Hey, Christmas guys. We love you all and enjoy your family.