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Speaker 1: Hello, Hillbilly Nation, How the heck are you?

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Speaker 2: You have no idea how long I have been waiting

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to do that.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hillbilly Horror Stories. I'm Brittany and I will

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be your host this week. Okay, so like first, let's

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address the whereabouts of our very own mister Mullins. He's

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been a little quiet the last few weeks. He is

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still here, that I can promise you. But that man

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has won super crazy busy life. I honestly don't see

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how he does it all from what I hear him

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and his sweet wife, Oh moy, god, have any of

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you met that amazing woman? Sorry sidetracked, Keep it together, Brittany. Anyway,

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they should be moved in their new house next week.

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With any luck, Tim's studio will be set back up

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and things can get back to normal. But this week

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you have me to introduce this week's episode. But before

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I do, I would like to read a few short stories.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool?

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: The first one is called My Bedtime Companion. I rarely

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sleep alone, not that I have a choice in the matter.

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The night always starts and ends the same. I knock

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back a few sleeping pills, take off my clothes, I

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like where this is going. Sorry, I knock back a

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few sleeping pills, take off my clothes, and let myself

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get drowsy. Then every night I wait for her face

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to appear. No matter how many sleeping pills I take,

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I can feel her arrival. Sometimes she's just a face,

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and other times she's a jaggedly rearranged torso. She paces too,

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or glides like she's on a conveyor belt, back and forth.

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Her eye is never leaving mine, eyes wild with rage.

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The night's when her body lies beside me, I find

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us face to face. Her lips are always agape, as

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if she's mimicking my horrified reaction. My whole body becomes

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liquid with fear, and I bolt upright to escape, But

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I can never make it past my bedroom door. My

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legs fail me, and I'm suddenly in a heap by

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my dresser drawer. That's when she kneels, purses her purple

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lips together, and utters the only words I've ever heard

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her say since that night, You shouldn't have killed me. Well,

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I don't see any sleep for me tonight.

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Speaker 4: Ugh.

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Speaker 2: Here's one more I saw emailed in from a listener.

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I was about seven. I was left with my grandmother

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in her small apartment while my parents went on a

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movie date. We had dinner together and chatted for a while.

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At about ten o'clock, my grandmother picked up her knitting

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and I turned on the TV. We sat like this

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together until my grandmother got thirsty and asked me to

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get her a glass of water. I protested, saying that

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it was too dark to walk to the kitchen, in

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which she replied, don't be scared. Follow the hallway. There's

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a switch right next to the bathroom door. So I

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got up and felt my way along the walls of

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the hallway, groping for the light switch. As I reached

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the bathroom, I stopped and felt around, only to come

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into contact with a bony hand that tried to drag

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me into the bathroom. I managed to pull away and run,

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screaming back to my grandmother. What exactly happened has never

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been established, but it is known that no one but

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my grandma and myself were alone in the apartment at

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the time. Grandma passed away shortly after that, and I

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refused to go back to that place. Now that's spooky, Okay,

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I've bored you long enough. This week's episode is about

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the famous haunted toys r Us. This was fun. I

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hope to do it again sometime. Enjoy the show.

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Speaker 5: Bye mo, Hello my friends. This is c K from

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the Marthsam Monster's Podcast, proud partner of the Odd Audio Network.

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Join me, my companion Finn, and my occasionally satanically possessed

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cat Ray as we investigate the real truths behind some

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of the most wonderful creatures you can imagine. Are trolls

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really that thick? Or is it just bad press our

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leprechons really drunken bums? Sort of? But there's a lot

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more to find out. All you need to do is

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tune in to Mirthsome Monsters Podcast with me and Finn.

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Un till next time, slancha their good health.

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Speaker 3: Jingle bells, jingle bells. Welcome to episode seventy two of

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Hillbilly Horror Stories. I'm Jerry and I'm joined by my

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wife Tracy.

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, Mary, Christmas Eve to you guys, ho and another.

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Speaker 3: Hole oh three holes from my favorite hole.

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Speaker 6: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Hey, real quick. We just wanted to basically tell all

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of you guys what a wonderful year you've given us.

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Speaker 6: Amen.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to say a big Merry Christmas to every

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one of you. We've been inundated the last couple of

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days with people writing us some of the nicest stuff

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you could ever want to see, a lot of personal stuff,

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a lot of things telling us how we've helped them

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deal with some hardships in their life. And nothing means

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more to us this time of year than hearing how

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we impact you guys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and even though you say that you don't know

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how much you all help us through the year. Absolutely,

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I mean, it's just amazing. But we appreciate all you

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guys reaching out to us and we're there for anything

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we can do for you.

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Speaker 3: Real quick, because we didn't have a ton of iTunes

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reviews this week, but we did have one and was

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from Casey sixteen four three, two five six, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: For that wonderful Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: And then as far as Patreon, our Patreon supporters right

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now are don't do that's my way of getting what

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I'm not prepared. Brandy Hester it was our new one

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and we've had Brandy, Tammy Hicks, thank you, Honey, Leanne Ashmore,

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thank you, Lisa. I think this is Lisa and Nadine.

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Oh cool, and then we've got Leslie Tyler and Alison Richard.

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Thank you, guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: We appreciate you more than you'll ever know.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, now we are going to have fun on this

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episode because we've got you know, this is hibbily horror stories.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: Last year we went ahead and just tried to make

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it all jovial and lighthearted, and we told the story

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of Crampus and Old Saint Nat and Uh, I thought,

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you know what, this year, we're gonna be hidly horror

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stories and we're going to tell you some uh stuff

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that I think is interesting. So we've got a we've

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got a nice haunted story for you for the Haunted

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Toys r Us. So that'll stick with our regular thing,

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because what's more Christmas ere than toys?

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Speaker 6: Well, that's true, it's hard. That's been a year already.

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I'll tell you what. That's crazy. We didn't know stories or.

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Speaker 3: Kristen made the joke about Crampus being the uh the

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uh what the demon that visits her once a month?

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Speaker 6: I remember that.

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Speaker 3: Uh. But so we got this Toys r Us story.

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We thought that this is a pretty cool story to

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use at Christmas time. Then I've got a story that's

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about a little boy and his friend that passed on

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that has to do with Christmas. And we're also going

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to read you. Now this will be something different than

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what we did. This is actually going to be a

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story instead of you know what it was in the

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night before Christmas like most people read, We're gonna read

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you a different kind of story. But it's not going

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to be one that's in our way. I'm just going

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to read it word for word. We'll put a little

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fun into it, but I think this is going to

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be something that will shock a lot of you. It's

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not your typical Christmas story, So this will not be

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the episode to listen to with the kids on the

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way over to Grandma's house.

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Speaker 6: Oh jeez.

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Speaker 3: And then we're going to finish the show up. Our

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good friend Amber Hammond, formerly of Colored Me Dead podcast,

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came on with us and she's going to do some

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a little segment that we might do ever so often

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called Amber's killer Facts.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, she had some really cool ones to he and.

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Speaker 3: She basically is going to tell us some cool facts

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about some serial killers and we play a little game

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with it where she had ten picked out Me and

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Tracy just picked numbers and we randomly got whatever fact

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she had and it was a fun little deal. So

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we'll throw that on the end. As you might have heard,

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we replaced our regular hillbilly horror theme with John Lennon's

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Happy Christmas Wars Over because that's my favorite Christmas song

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and anytime I can throw John Lennon of the Beatles in,

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that's what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 6: Good sounds great.

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Speaker 3: But then we also heard Erosmith's Toys in the Attic

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to go in with our Toys song. So are we

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ready to get this thing going? All right? This may

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not be as long a show as we normally do

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because we're doing it on Christmas, even between our runs,

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not runs like because Tracy fixed Bad Food last night,

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runs like to everybody's house.

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Speaker 6: That you always have to know it's going to be crazy.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to start off with the Toys or

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Us story. Now, a lot of you have probably heard

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this story, and as usual, I tried to throw a

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few extra facts and stuff in there. Maybe you haven't

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heard now this Toys or Us. It's in Sunnyville, California,

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and obviously it's supposedly haunted, or we wouldn't be talking

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about it. Now. This goes all the way back to

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and a lot of the information I have you'll hear

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all comes from two thousand and seven. I couldn't really

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find a lot of recent stuff on it. And with

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everything that's going on with Toys r Us, I don't

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Jeffrey used to go and you get those old Jeffrey

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Speaker 3: And given how they choose, how they choose a giraffe

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as a mascot of a story store. Who have you

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ever known it had toy giraffe? You did not have it.

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Speaker 3: Would you get from the Toys r Us?

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son Now, they didn't have all the haunted shows like

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and what's her name, Crosby I can't remember. And then

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Speaker 6: See, I remember Frank, but I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: But that was a cool show back in the day,

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and it involved everything. I mean it was, you know,

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anything that was crazy feats or of strength or whatever.

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you know psychic Sylvia Brown. She's pretty famous and has

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first psychic or anybody of a name that did this.

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for a long time, but so she was out there

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and she did a seance and she's been back more

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than a dozen times. Good for her since then. This place,

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there was a Hollywood scriptwriter that did a movie called Toys,

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doing some research. So I don't and I don't remember

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one with Richard Pryor in it, but that was the Toy.

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to Sylvia Brown, which she got out of her seance

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that she did, so she's most of this information comes

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from her. But they have been able to document some

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of these things, like the fact that there was a

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Johann Brown that lived there and all that, so we're

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getting that a little more.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 3: Johnson was actually a preacher and a ranch hand in

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the nineteen or I said in nineteen eighth, the eighteen

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eighties on the Murphy family farm, and the Murphy family

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farm is what used to be the Murphy. Murphy family

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farm is actually where the toys r Us is right now.

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Oh cool. So Johann actually spoke with a slight Swedish accent,

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so our Swedish people.

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Speaker 6: Were like that, yeah, it's a great accent to have.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is Swedish. Is a really cool accent. And

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so we got ten of sixteen people that were at

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the seance said that they heard kind of a high

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pitch buzz noise while Brown was actually supposedly talking to Johann,

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so this when he would talk back through her, this

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buzz would go on. So that was kind of cool.

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and he didn't really like the fact that she didn't

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pay him no never mind, as we say here in

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the South, she had no interest. She was actually getting

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married to an attorney in East Coast attorney in like

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seven days when he told her how he really felt

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about her. And the guy was a little bit slow anyway,

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he had something they called it, I think it's called

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encepha miitas, but it just they called him crazy Johnny

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because of it. He just was he was slow, and

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so he told her his feelings and obviously she was

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an interest, said, and she was very blunt about it.

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I'm sure this severely hurt his feelings. And so he said,

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you know, hey, I want to marry you. And she's like, no,

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you're crazy, Johnny. And I'm marry enough, you know, Richie

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East Coast attorney. So, according to different newspaper articles, Johann

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accidentally hacked his leg with an axe while he was

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angrily chopping wood out of disgust. So he's so he's

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pissed off. He's out there, he's got, you know, all

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these logs and stuff, and he's just, you know, he's

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in a little fit of rage and he's, you know,

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just swinging the acts as hard as he can, and

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he missed and chopped his leg. And according to which

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article you read, because there's a couple of different ones,

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one of them said that he did that, one of

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them said that he hit hisself in the neck. But

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either way, both articles said that he bled to death.

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So those are actually documented in the newspaper that there

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was a Johann there and.

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Speaker 4: He so.

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Speaker 3: There's I love this name. The young lady that had

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worked at the store at this point, like I said,

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this was two thousand and seven. She had worked there

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for eighteen years. Her name was Putt put O'Brien. Oh nice,

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but she's been stocking shelter, like I said, for eighteen years.

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And she said when she started she didn't believe in ghosts.

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But she said, when you start filling a breeze behind

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you and someone calls your name and there's nobody else there,

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and funny things like start to happen, you can't really

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explain it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't brush it off for sure.

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Speaker 3: She said, rag dolls and toy trucks would just fall

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off the shelves, balls would bounce down the owls where

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you know, there was nobody at And then she said

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baby swings, you know, like the Yeah, she said, those

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things would just start swinging on her own. And people

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at the toys are us who tried to explain it as

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far as like upper management and I guess regionals and

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stuff like that. They've tried to explain it logically, but

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they can't. Supposedly a lot of this stuff it's called

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on surveillance camera.

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Speaker 6: Oh well, I mean, at least they had.

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Speaker 3: The proof, so O'Brien said, that several people have had

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had the experiences and said that he was kind of

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like Casper because he never tried to scare anybody. He

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was just more of a prankster, and nobody's ever really

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been frightened. O'Brien said that she actually saw Johann once

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and she said he was a man in his twenties

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and thirties. He was wearing nickers, a white long sleeve

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work shirt and a gray tweed snap brim cap.

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Speaker 6: I can still see that in my brain.

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Speaker 3: Back in too, because I saw a picture of.

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Speaker 4: He did look like him.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, it wasn't his actual picture, but you know

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how they always do, like a characterization or something. Now,

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another time, she said she heard the sound of a

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galloping horse because supposedly he used to exercise the horses

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on the farm, so that would make sense too. And

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these days he just likes to play with the staff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well he's fine. That's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: A few examples of the things that he likes to

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do prank wise, I guess is there's a strong smell

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of flowers in Aisle fifteen C right next to the

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Mickey Mouse do And on one occasion there were some

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men that were actually waxing the floors, and a teddy

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bear appeared in each one of the owls as they

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moved the equipment through. So they would get through with

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one alcal on the other and there's a teddy bear.

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Then they would move and get to another out there's

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a teddy bear. And so that's kind of, you know,

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prankster type. Yeah. Now, but the question is is all

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this just a gimmick? Now? The store manager at the time,

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Stephanie Lewis, she said that it's very good publicity, she'll

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admit that, but personally she didn't believe in any of it,

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even though everybody's got like saying she's the store manager.

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Speaker 6: She said she didn't believe even after she looked at

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it on cameras.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much she saw on camera, but

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you know, she said she didn't believe it. So now

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she said that she might not believe in it, but

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she knows plenty of others do. She's admitted that she

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had to chase away several teenagers just the week before

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coming up. They were actually sitting in front of the

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store at four am with a Oigi board trying to conjure.

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Speaker 6: Uphos the teenagers were yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, she said. She said, at least once a

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week someone somebody comes there and they ask about it, uh,

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and she said it's usually teenagers but trying to get

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her to let them spend the night inside the toy store,

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which obviously she can't do. So of course, now she

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said that she has female employees that will not go

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to the women's bathroom alone. Why because Johann follows him

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in there and then he turns on the faucets and

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sometimes he actually opens the door for him before they

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go in there, So I guess, Aleman apparently, she said

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that some longtime employees said that Johann likes to prank

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contractors that are just there like for a short time

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doing something that toys would actually like jump on the shelf,

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and then the contractors would refuse to come back. Now, well, Brian,

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we talked about pet put O'Brien earlier. She said she

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thinks Johann lives upstairs in a Uh there's like a

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corner up there that's really breezy and cool all the time,

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and she thinks that's kind of where he hangs out. Yeah,

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and she said that when she goes up there to

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work that she kind of yells out and says, hey,

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I'm just coming up here to work. So yeah, and

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that way, she said, he kind of leaves her alone.

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Oh Now, some of the pranksy pools are harmless, but

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it's still spooky because you're usually alone, and most people

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with anything weird happens when you're alone, it's going to

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freak you out. So the question is, if it's haunted,

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then why work there? Well, Lisa actually said, and Lisa

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didn't want to give her last name, so she's just Lisa.

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But Lisa said that it's a good ghost and it's

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fun there. And she said one incident she had that

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she heard like a mysterious voice whisper through the PA

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system through the hole store and it said Lord giveth

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Lord taketh away, and they there was nobody, she said,

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at the actual intercom to be able to do that,

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but it was still going over. So let's go back

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to the seance. Photographer built Hi Well actually took a

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bunch of pictures and in one of the infrared pictures

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you could see a silhouette of a man leaning up

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against the shelf, surrounded by a bright light. And I'll

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snag that picture and throw it on the Facebook page.

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But it actually does look like a man leaning up.

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Speaker 4: Cool.

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Speaker 6: So with him, he sounds cool. I mean, he sounds

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like he's harmless.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it would be cool to

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hang out in a toys r us. Yeah, so I

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think I think we should all go out there before

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they file for bankruptcy and close it down, if they

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haven't already closed it down.

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Speaker 6: I know the one here is still open.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's in California, so Tina Oler has probably been there.

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Anything we bring up in California, she's been.

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Speaker 6: Tina, you need to let usnow be still open.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where sunny Bell is. I didn't look

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to see where it was in California.

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Speaker 6: Sounds like a fun place to live though, Sunnyville.

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Speaker 3: Hey, so what do you think we're gonna get into?

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Like I said, we're gonna breeze right there is?

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I got a couple of things that I forgot to mention,

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some cool Christmas facts that I found interesting. Okay, the

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Satan and Santa connection. Have you ever heard about that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: I know they got the same letters.

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Speaker 3: Right, and that's where it comes in. So it is

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Santa really an anagram for Satan. Many people think so,

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citing that the fact that Santa is often referred to

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as jolly old Saint Nick, just as the devil once

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was known as od Nick. Remember the movie with Adam

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Sandler Little Nikki.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, worst movie ever.

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Speaker 3: It was not the worst movie ever. But the point

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of that is he was little Nicky because Satan's name

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was Nick.

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Speaker 6: You cannot convince me of this, lot one.

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Speaker 3: You can't, Okay, So never mind that Saint Nicholas was

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a real historical character, because you know, that's really where

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it kind of came from. But others claim that Santa

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heils from the oppose, the end of the spectrum, as

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exemplified by his similarities in Zeus or Odin, identified in

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Norse mythology as god of the sky. Like Santa Claus,

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Odin ruled from the far north and had an all

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seen eye. He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows

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when you're awake. Blah blah blah blah. And he gave

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gifts to yule Tide to those who honored him. Those

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honour ease, by the way, did so at the sight

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of the sacred fir tree, not unlike the ones that

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we lay out gifts every year at a Christmas tree

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in a dang so later interpretation of Santa Claus puts

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him actually literally to god like status, which would have

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him battling Satan, as he does in a bizarre Mexican

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fantasy film called Santa Claus. So I do wonder how

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many people be trying to look that up, but it

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makes sense, as in some cultures it's believed that Santa

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actually made the Devil his Christmas time slave. Note Also,

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Santa's alternative moniker, Chris Kringle, said to be taken from

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the German Christ Kendall, which means literally Christ child.

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Speaker 6: Oh so interesting.

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Speaker 3: Now there's that part of it. But let's talk about

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the tie in with pagan. It's widely known that the

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tradition of Christmas is descended from the ancient Pagan rituals,

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notably the Fertility Festival. This celebration involving copious food, drink,

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and orgies plenty. Well, always like orgies at Christmas time.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe you don't. I don't. Maybe that's just me.

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But this fell on I guess this fell on the

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twenty fourth of December, which is Christmas Eve. But that's

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the reason they did is because that was the shortest

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day of the year. December twenty fifth was actually vitegrated

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as the birth of the Sun because that's the day

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that the days start getting progressively longer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so starting on Christmas Day. And I'm sure most

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of you are probably aware, December of twenty fifth was

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not the actual birthday of Jesus. Well it's not. Sorry,

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that's most people believe that actually was in somewhere in July,

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but nobody has pinpoint a date. But in three point

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fifty eight d Pope Julius decreed that it would be

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celebrated on the twenty fifth, So that's where that goes

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back to three fifty a d. That's when they decided

473
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,799
they were going to start doing it on the twenty

474
00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:20,519
fifth every year. So it's kind of a shrewd decision

475
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,039
that combined the Pagan and the Christian festivals, essentially making

476
00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:26,519
the Sun and the Son of God wanted the same.

477
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,039
Because the Pagans did the Sun fenciful, it appears that

478
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,359
it was succeeded in inspiring people to join the Catholic Church,

479
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,200
and that was apparently what the pope's main goal was

480
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,519
when he set that there, So I think it was

481
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:43,839
meant to try to say, hey, let's combine these two

482
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:47,640
that'll get people more religious and run to the Catholic church.

483
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 6: So being slick.

484
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Incidentally, the Yule Tide cookie making so people always

485
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,480
make cookies for Christmas time that actually was reportedly began

486
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:01,000
in Finland with eight carefully cut cookies, including one of

487
00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:07,000
those shaped representing the power hell h l corresponds directly

488
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,039
to that of the present day Swashtika.

489
00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:10,079
Speaker 4: No way.

490
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,319
Speaker 3: So, and then here's another. This is the short one,

491
00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:17,319
but this was fun Christmas and hungry. In Hungary, Santa

492
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:22,920
Claus is known as Meculas, or Winter Godfather, and celebrated

493
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:26,440
via an elaborate series of rituals begin on December fifth,

494
00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:29,359
when children take special bats so they will be extra

495
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,720
cleaned for Mecula's arrival. They also put out shoes for

496
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:36,240
him to fill with goodies in observance of the three

497
00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:41,160
gold bags. But there is this one thing, because only

498
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,279
the good children get the goodies, the bad ones get

499
00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,279
a golden birch so they can be beaten with it.

500
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 6: Oh oh man, in this so interesting, How seriously people

501
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,000
around the world celebrate Christmas. Yep, it's very interesting.

502
00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: Okay, So I want to get into the story I

503
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:04,759
told you about little boy and his dead best friend. Now,

504
00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:10,519
this story actually goes back to nineteen ninety six, and

505
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:12,960
as you can hear a nainje of snoring over the background.

506
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,920
But this story goes back to nineteen ninety six and

507
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,400
it involves a little boy named Jake who was about

508
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,880
five years old at the time. And what basically happened

509
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,400
is Jake's mom, Pam, was a single mom and she

510
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,119
was raising Jake all on her own, obviously, and she

511
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,519
was living with her parents at the time, and she

512
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:37,039
worked at a little gas station, and she had a

513
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:40,160
young lady that she worked with named Stacy that was

514
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,079
in a similar situation. She lived with her parents. She

515
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,559
had a single kid about the same age as Jake.

516
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,079
His name was Chris. So Stacy and Pam became really

517
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,839
good friends, as did Jake and Chris. And like I said,

518
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:56,039
for about two years, they were inseparable. They even had

519
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,640
you know, chicken pox buddies. They got chicken pox together,

520
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:02,440
they were in cub Scouts together, they hung out NonStop.

521
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:06,720
But about the time Jake had his seventh birthday, which

522
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:08,680
was the last time him and Chris saw each other.

523
00:27:09,559 --> 00:27:13,319
His mom had remarried and had been remarried for a

524
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,400
while and had still been living with her mom, and

525
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,039
they decided to go ahead and get a place to

526
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:21,680
their own, and they moved out. But this place was

527
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,119
about an hour away in a different county, so Jake

528
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,599
and christ they didn't get to see each other. Shortly

529
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,240
after the birthday though, Chris, who was still living with

530
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,599
his mom at her parents' house, the grandfather was actually

531
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,559
watching him and they were outside him. Chris were in

532
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:41,559
the garage. He was tinkering around with his car, and

533
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:43,519
he said he left for just a minute. It seemed

534
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:45,160
like a minute. It was a little longer than obviously,

535
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,480
but he went into the house to grab something. And

536
00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:51,799
when he came back out in the corner there were

537
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:58,160
a big pile of poles or pipes metal that had

538
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,799
been up in the corner and all of them had

539
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:02,599
fell down and they were laying on top of Chris.

540
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,440
He moved on me called nine one, but by the

541
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,720
time nine one one had gotten there, Chris had passed away.

542
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,079
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, bless his heart.

543
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,279
Speaker 3: Well, Jake's mom, Pam felt like that it would be

544
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,839
good for Jake to go to the services the visitation,

545
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,480
and so she did. She took him to the visitation,

546
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,160
and not too long after that, Jake started having an

547
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:32,960
imaginary friend named Chris. She obviously was semi concerned because

548
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,599
you know, she didn't know what was taking him to

549
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,720
the visitation the wrong thing to do and is what

550
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:40,599
was calling it. And she talked to some other parents,

551
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,000
and all of the other parents were like, now this

552
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:47,640
is just his way of processing and everything would be fine. Well,

553
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,200
this continued on for a little bit, and about this time,

554
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,319
Pam and her husband started going through an ugly divorce.

555
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:57,039
And I keep in mind I hadn't been together that long.

556
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,279
I mean this is they had only been moved out

557
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:03,200
about six months to their new place, but they started

558
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,359
going through an ugly divorce. So her and Jake moved

559
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:08,640
back in with her mom. And now it's Christmas time.

560
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:13,880
It's been about six seven months since Chris's death, and

561
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400
so they decide to go to Walmart, and you know,

562
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:18,759
Jake's all excited. They're going through and they're looking at

563
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:20,720
you know, they got Christmas lights and they got the

564
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:24,400
Christmas trees, and they're discussing what they're going to put up,

565
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,599
so he's super excited. Then they get to the toyoule.

566
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,480
You can imagine how a seven year old is a

567
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:31,799
Christmas time in the toyole and you know, So they're

568
00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:36,960
walking around it and Jake looks up and there's one

569
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,640
of those you know, those like white plastic guitars that

570
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,400
had like the little keyboard things on them, so you

571
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,359
hit him in it, but it's not really guitar. It's

572
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,599
just got the buttons that you push. This was up

573
00:29:46,599 --> 00:29:49,519
on the top shelf and Jake was like, oh, man,

574
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:51,880
I'd like to I'd like to see that. Well, the

575
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,079
mom was only like five foot two and her her

576
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:57,880
mom was no taller, so they were like, well, I

577
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,279
can't reach that. So they start looking at the into

578
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:05,920
the owl for an associate at Walmart. And he said

579
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,720
a few seconds after that, they heard it start playing,

580
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,160
but it was still up on the top shelf, and

581
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,759
so they're they're looking they see it playing, but they

582
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:19,759
you know, and and they're still looking for an associate

583
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:24,319
at this time, and it falls and her and her

584
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:31,119
mom were just like stunned. And Jake said, Jake said,

585
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,839
I told you Chris could get it. He can do

586
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:40,880
anything now, and they were so freaked out that they

587
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:47,519
just grabbed him and they left, and you know, they

588
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,160
started thinking about it and they was like, man, you know,

589
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:56,039
years went by and Jake now as an adult and

590
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:58,839
has his own kids and married, he don't remember much

591
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,480
about that day. But his mom was telling his wife,

592
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:03,559
you know, this is exactly what happened.

593
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it.

594
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: Kind of freaked her out a little bit. But then

595
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:10,119
she said that she had separated from Stacy. They really

596
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:12,440
hadn't talked to each other, and she called she ran

597
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,640
into her and this was you know after now Jake

598
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:19,240
was already grown and she was telling her about that story,

599
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,000
and Stacey told her, she said, you know, Chris never left.

600
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,200
What she said, you know, we were having similar situations.

601
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,880
And she said, and we had another kid in two

602
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,400
thousand and three, which was what you're looking at, seven

603
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,000
years after Chris had passed away. Huh. She said, we

604
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:36,480
had a little girl. And she said, as soon as

605
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,720
she started able to talk, she said she had an

606
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,640
imaginary friend and his name was Chris.

607
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 6: That's so sweet.

608
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,759
Speaker 3: So that's my little Christmas story.

609
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 6: I love that story and makes my heart happy.

610
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a really cool story. I thought,

611
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:54,039
I thought it was cool.

612
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:54,839
Speaker 6: It's very good.

613
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna breeze right along. So we're gonna tell

614
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,880
this story. Uh, this story. I'm just gonna ready. So

615
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:10,359
it's gonna be a little different, but it's very disturbing nonetheless.

616
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,359
So I'll try to do my best, you know, Mike

617
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,960
Brown slash Aaron Mankey and just try to actually be

618
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:23,880
professional for once instead of just champer. All right, So

619
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,000
seven year old Henry Childers crawled reluctantly under the covers

620
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,240
of his bed. But Mom, he whined, I'm not sleepy.

621
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,440
Can't I stay up for another few hours? It's almost

622
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,319
ten already, His mother, Tanya said, with an indulgent smile.

623
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,359
If you don't get to sleep, Santa won't stop here tonight.

624
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:43,240
Do you think Sanna got my letter this year, Henry asked,

625
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,119
sitting up against the headboard. Well, I'm sure he did, honey,

626
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,680
because I don't want it to be like last year.

627
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:52,480
Tanya sighed heavily and rubbed her temples. She'd been hearing

628
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:56,200
this same tirade from her son for an entire year now, Henry,

629
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,119
there was nothing wrong with the gift you got from Santa.

630
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,359
Last year. Well, I asked for an Xbox, and he

631
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:06,200
gave me a PlayStation. It's not the same as I've

632
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,720
told you a hundred times. Maybe Santa was all out

633
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,839
of xboxes, Tanya said, pulling the covers up just under

634
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,240
Henry's chin. She and her husband had gone to every

635
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,400
store in the city looking for an Xbox last year,

636
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:19,720
but they'd all been sewd out. It had been a

637
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,720
PlayStation or nothing, but still it hadn't satisfied Henry. I

638
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,519
mailed my letter to him in October last year. Henry said.

639
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,039
They gave him plenty of time to have his l's

640
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:33,799
whip me up an Xbox. Henry, Tanya said, a little

641
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:37,519
more sharply than she'd intended. You're being awfully ungrateful. There

642
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,000
are children in the world that'd have nothing if you

643
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920
don't start being more appreciative of Santa. May just decided

644
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,480
to just skip over our house altogether this year, okay,

645
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,920
Henry said, his lower lip poked out like a shelf.

646
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:53,039
I'm sorry. Just get to sleep, Tanya said, leaning over

647
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,880
and kissing her son on the forehead. When you wake

648
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,799
up in the morning, you just might find that that

649
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,160
bike you've been wanting is waiting under the tree three

650
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:03,000
for you. Do you think Santa will like the cookies

651
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,559
and milk we left out for him, Henry asked, I'm

652
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,239
sure he will. He will think they're delicious. I'll see

653
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,280
you in the morning, sweetie. Tanya turned off the light,

654
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,320
the small nightlight plugged into the electrical socket by the closet,

655
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,599
throwing a muted yellow glow throughout the room. She eased

656
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,159
the door closed, leaving Henry to dream of Christmas morning.

657
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:26,559
Do you think it's safe to start Jonas's childers, asked

658
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:28,760
his wife. They were sitting in a living room watching

659
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,920
a Sci Fi Channel marathon of Silent Night Deadly Night films.

660
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,840
Tanya glanced at the clock saw that it was just

661
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,880
past one o'clock in the morning. He should be sound

662
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,239
asleep by now. She said, I think we can get

663
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,440
started good. Jonah said, I'll probably take me till don

664
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,480
to get this damn bike put together anyway. So they

665
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,679
went up to the attic, carefully to avoid all the

666
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:52,440
squeakiest boards, and brought down all of Henry's presence. Tanya

667
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,760
began arranging all the smaller gifts around the tree, while

668
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,519
Jonas unfolded the instructions for the bike and began to

669
00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:00,880
assemble it. Shit Jonas cursed under his brea trying to

670
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,360
fit together two pieces as simply refused to fit together.

671
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:06,159
As much trouble as this is, Henry better liked to

672
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,400
stand bike. Tanya knelt next to her husband, took the

673
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,199
uncooperative pieces and easily snapped them together. Are you kidding?

674
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,559
He'll absolutely love it? He better. I don't want to

675
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:18,320
have to go through another year hearing him bitch and

676
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,480
moan like he did about that damned PlayStation. It did

677
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:24,719
get a little bit tiresome, Tanya said, with a giggle.

678
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,280
But Henry just wants what he wants and he won't

679
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,559
settle for anything else. Like mother like son. Tanya swatted

680
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,559
her husband on the arm and said, that's not true.

681
00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:37,639
I settled for you after all. Very funny, Jonah said,

682
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,920
how about you settle for passing me those cookies. Tanya

683
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,360
had baked a batch of oatmeal raising cookies, half of

684
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,239
which her family had eaten, the other half of which

685
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,760
had been placed on a plate for Santa Claus. She

686
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,719
took the plate and handed it to her husband, who

687
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,559
immediately inhaled two of the cookies. Careful Tanya said, reading

688
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:57,320
over the instructions, he keeps that up, you'll assume be

689
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,679
as fat as Sanna. This isn't for me, Jonas said,

690
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,880
around a mouthful of cookies, spewing crumbs like a fine mist.

691
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,039
It's for Henry. Think how disappointed he would be if

692
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:08,840
he woke up and saw that Santa hadn't eaten the

693
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,480
cookies that he left for him. She said, don't talk

694
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:15,960
with your mouthful with a smile. Hand me with the milk, please.

695
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,599
They did not leave out a glass of milk for Santa,

696
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:21,719
since they were afraid that it would curdle, but they

697
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,880
placed it in the thermist to keep it cold. Tanya

698
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,800
passed the thermist to her husband. Jonas popped the top

699
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,079
on the thermost and gouped down several swallows of milk.

700
00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:33,000
Suddenly he wretched, spitting milk into the air like a geyser,

701
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,440
the thermist dropping from his hand and leaking its contents

702
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,400
onto the carpet. Jonas clutched the throat, making strange gagging noises.

703
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,360
His milk and blood dribbled down his chin. Tanya screamed

704
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,480
and grabbed her husband as he collapsed onto her lap.

705
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,639
His body was jerking with violent spasms, his eyes rolling

706
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:53,400
up to the whites. He coughed violently, and more frothy

707
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,320
blood sprayed Tanya's arms, and she thought there were chunks

708
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,360
of tissue mixed in with it. Oh God, jonas she screamed,

709
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,039
crying on what should I do? What's going on? Henry said,

710
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:05,920
as he stepped into the room, wearing his pajamas, rubbing

711
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,360
asleep dust from his eyes. I heard screaming, Henry, get

712
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,639
the phone and call nine one one, Tanya yelled, frantically.

713
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:14,760
Something's wrong with your father. He needs an ambulance right away.

714
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,800
What is it? Henry asked, white eyed. Stepping further into

715
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,639
the room, Henry called nine one one Now. Henry started

716
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:23,800
to turn towards the phone, but then he spotted the

717
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,679
spilled thermas of milk and froze. Did Dad drink the milk?

718
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,320
He asked, snatching up the thermis and waving it at

719
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,360
his mother. What Tanya said, filling her husband's spasms, tampering off,

720
00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:36,679
afraid to even contemplate what that might mean? Your father

721
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,760
needs help? Did Dad drink that milk? Henry said, again,

722
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:45,000
his old stubborn self. This milk was for Santa Claus,

723
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:49,239
not Dad, Henry, Tanya screamed, desperate, tears of frustration and

724
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,079
helplessness streaking down her face. This isn't the time. This

725
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,639
milk was for Santa Claus, not for Dad, Henry roared,

726
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,960
throwing the thermost across the room. A numbness began to

727
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,760
spread throughout Tanya's body, starting to her chest and reaching

728
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,199
through to her limbs. Comprehension came slowly, and it made

729
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,119
her feel cold inside, cold and empty. What did you do?

730
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,440
She croaked, her voice raw and raspy. Henry, what did

731
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,280
you do to the milk? I poured draino in it?

732
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,039
He said, matter of factly, as if stating that he

733
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:21,800
had just brushed his teeth. Tanya was on her feet

734
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,440
in an instant, the still form of her husband stretched

735
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,719
out on the floor. She grabbed Henry by the shoulders

736
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,920
and shook him, shook him hard. Why would you do

737
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,599
such a thing, she shouted into his face. Whin in

738
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:33,239
the name of God, would you do such a thing?

739
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,079
I wanted an xbox, Henry shouted back, wrenching out of

740
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,840
his mother's grasp. Not a PlayStation, an xbox, and Santa

741
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,239
knew that he knew that and he gave me the

742
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,480
wrong thing. Anyway, I wanted to teach him a lesson,

743
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:50,639
make him pay for giving me the wrong gift last year, dude.

744
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,199
Tanya stumbled back, hands in her mouth and watched as

745
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:58,800
her son turn and ran into the room, slamming the

746
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,760
door behind him. She snatched up the phone and quickly

747
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,440
down nine one one while Santa chopped up a topless

748
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,960
teenager on the television behind her.

749
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:12,159
Speaker 6: The end, Santa chopped up a topless teenager.

750
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were watching Solid Night Deadly Night Marathon.

751
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 6: Remember, Oh my gosh, what a brat. I cannot you know. Okay,

752
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,400
that's a terrible story. And actually seen a video something'

753
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,880
slort like this on Facebook the other day and it's

754
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,519
so much like it, only the kid wanted an Xbox

755
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,519
or something like that. Well his brother, the parents got

756
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:42,320
his brother one. Well the brother didn't even ask for one,

757
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:44,920
and they was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe

758
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,679
y'all got me this. I didn't even ask you for this,

759
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,320
and he got something random. I don't even know what

760
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,480
it was. This kid got so mad he literally threw

761
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,519
a fit like he was like a teenager though upper

762
00:39:56,519 --> 00:40:00,719
teenager through a fit, grabbed the Christmas tree, drugg it

763
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,079
outside in the yard and put gasoline all over it

764
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:07,960
and caught it on fire. Okay, just because he didn't

765
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,079
get what he wanted and his brother got what he wanted.

766
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:11,519
Speaker 3: Well, at this point they weren't gonna need to treat

767
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:12,519
much longer anyway, though.

768
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 6: Well I understand that, but I'm telling you, this kid,

769
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,239
it was so ridiculous. So his dad ended up chasing

770
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,960
him around the yard and tell him he's crazy. And

771
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,960
this kid's like screaming at his parents like I can't

772
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,079
believe y'all didn't blah blah blah blah. And his mom

773
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:27,079
was like, come in here. She's after trying to put

774
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:29,760
the tree out with the fire extinguisher. It was just

775
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:33,519
a whole thing. And so finally his mom said, come

776
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:35,760
in here, come in here. She had a damn Xbox

777
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,159
for him the whole time. Huh, she just hadn't given

778
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:41,119
it to him yet. But this was like an eighteen

779
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,239
or nineteen year old Okay, I mean, are you serious?

780
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,639
I mean, this was like a real thing.

781
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: And then she still gave it to him.

782
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:48,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh of course she did. Because in as soon

783
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:51,480
as she as soon as he saw that he had won,

784
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:57,159
oh mom, and started hugging her enabler. I mean seriously,

785
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,719
it was I mean his brother was like, oh my god,

786
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,880
are you kidding me? What are you doing this?

787
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: I didn't get any good gifts like that as a kid. Anyway, Well,

788
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,440
every damn gift I got as a kid could be

789
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,039
turned around and used against me, Like those little paddle

790
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:13,519
ball games. You know, you got the paddle ball game,

791
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:16,199
and then when the you know that she's got the

792
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,679
little rubber ball on it and the rubber band. Oh yeah, yeah,

793
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:20,159
and then once the ball broke off of it, they

794
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:21,320
would use it to beat your ass with.

795
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 4: Yep.

796
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: Or I would get like a racetrack, either a train

797
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,679
track or a car racetrack, and then they would beat

798
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,719
me with those pieces of trays. You can't you can't

799
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,280
do that today. You're not gonna beat a kid with

800
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,239
the damn three hundred dollars PS four.

801
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 6: I mean you, Oh my gosh. It was the craziest thing.

802
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,599
I was just like, so, I guess the moral of

803
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:43,719
the story is people just be grateful for what you get.

804
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:46,440
Loved one an, the family is the most important thing.

805
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,519
And if you're that hateful of me, to try to

806
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:55,000
kill Santa Claus. You've already got the devil in you,

807
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:58,000
that's for sure. That's a terrible story.

808
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: I think it's been a fun and lightning Christmas episode though.

809
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, it has been.

810
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,599
Speaker 3: And I can't think of any better way to end

811
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:08,800
it than talking about serial killer facts. Okay, so let's

812
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,760
do that, all right, Well.

813
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,159
Speaker 6: Let's here are some facts about stupid people.

814
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ember, Like I said, most of you know where

815
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,000
she's from, Colored me Dead, and she decided to step

816
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:20,320
back a couple of weeks ago, and she's working on

817
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,079
a new show with her husband, and she talks a

818
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:24,400
little bit about that. But I thought it would be

819
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,599
fun to have her on because she's got some downtime now.

820
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 6: And yeah, she's a pretty cool chick to love to

821
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,360
be somebody fun to hang out with, for sure.

822
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:34,519
Speaker 3: Since she lives in Utah and really far she actually

823
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:38,039
lives really close to Skinwalker Ranch, so she's got all

824
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:39,480
kinds of stories. And you probably have no clue what

825
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,719
I'm talking about it. Skinwalker Ranch is actually everybody out

826
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,920
here will know about Skinrocker Ranch. It's actually a really

827
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,760
famous story. A lot of bizarre stuff from the UFO

828
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,079
to Sasquatch. I think all happening right there, and it's

829
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:53,440
in Utah, So okay, very cool. So let's take a

830
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,920
listen to Amber. All right, we are joined on the

831
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,039
phone by our special guest for the evening. We kind

832
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:00,800
of teased it a little bit lad week and told

833
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,960
you that we had another podcaster that was going to

834
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,320
join us for a segment this week and maybe an

835
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,480
ongoing deal. We might do this a couple more times

836
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:11,679
over the next couple of months. But I wanted to

837
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,559
welcome to the phone. I guess I suld say to

838
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:17,000
the show rather than the phone should not. Yeah, well,

839
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,679
we'll welcome to the show, Miss Ember Hammond, who is

840
00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:23,840
the former host of the Color Me Dead podcast Amber,

841
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,599
Welcome to the show.

842
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: Welcome, Hi, Hi, Hi, everybody.

843
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,039
Speaker 3: You sound super excited.

844
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:31,119
Speaker 4: How is everybody doing.

845
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 6: We are fantastic.

846
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm always excited. That's just me. Good for you,

847
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,679
but I'm just excited to talk to you guys.

848
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,119
Speaker 3: Do I have to warn you ahead of time that

849
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:47,960
we have a family friendly show.

850
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,079
Speaker 6: And it doesn't matter. You can do what you want.

851
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you have never listened to one episode ever

852
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,480
in my life Insert all sarcasm.

853
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,679
Speaker 3: Well, and if you listen to a couple of shows

854
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:02,719
back when the Brohile guys were on, I think it's

855
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,159
obvious that it really doesn't matter what gets said during

856
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:06,199
these interviews.

857
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,639
Speaker 7: Well, you see, I listened to that one, so I

858
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:14,400
will be sure to don my halo and be a

859
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,239
good person.

860
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,639
Speaker 3: So I would gonna jump into what we're gonna do.

861
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:21,559
And we've got a very cool segment set up that

862
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,119
you've got all laid out for us, and we talked

863
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,639
a little bit about it earlier. But before we get

864
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:31,039
into what we're gonna do for our show, I thought

865
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,079
we would just basically talk a few minutes about you

866
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,440
and what's going on with you. Most people who listen

867
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,239
to the show know that you've stepped away from Color

868
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,800
Me Dead for some personal reasons, and I thought i'd

869
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,480
give you a couple of seconds just tell everybody what

870
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:45,639
was going on in your life.

871
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 7: Oh well, geez, Okay, Long story short is it's hard

872
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:55,840
to it's hard to podcast and work around three separate schedules.

873
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: Angel and Nikki and I we are.

874
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,039
Speaker 7: All also mothers and and so we always try to

875
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,360
do it at a time that worked best. But unfortunately

876
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:10,760
my kids always not that they got pushed aside, but

877
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,559
podcasting is a full time thing, and they were tired

878
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:18,800
of me always researching or being on my phone or

879
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,079
having to do certain things and being told hold on

880
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:22,760
just a minute, you know, I got something to do.

881
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,119
Speaker 4: And finally my oldest to a six, looked at me

882
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,519
and he said a few things and he basically told

883
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:30,079
me that I.

884
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:34,079
Speaker 7: Was done, and I agreed with him, so I was, yeah,

885
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,559
I mean, when a six year old tells you some

886
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:39,599
stuff and hits you right in the hearththole. He told

887
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:42,280
me that he wanted to ask Santa if he could

888
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,760
be a podcast so I would want to spend more.

889
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: Time with him.

890
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,559
Speaker 7: So yeah, kids have a way of like ripping your

891
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:53,960
heart out and stepping on it. So that's when I

892
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
was like, Okay, I'm done. So I was trying to

893
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:59,400
figure out a way how can I still podcast and

894
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:02,159
do this full time because I love I love podcasting.

895
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:03,880
I didn't know that I would love it as much

896
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,239
until I got into it, and I love the whole

897
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,480
process of it and I research anyways, It's a form

898
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,719
of therapy for me.

899
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: So it was a way to.

900
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 7: Also utilize what I do, and I was trying to think,

901
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,119
and the only way that I could do it is

902
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:19,000
if I sat down, and if I gave myself a

903
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,320
few months, do a whole bunch of research, do a

904
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,320
whole bunch of recording, have a whole bunch.

905
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: Of editing done.

906
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 7: That way there's a nice nest egg, if that makes sense,

907
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:30,119
So in case.

908
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,199
Speaker 4: If something happens, you don't have to worry about meeting

909
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,960
up with schedules. You have a fallback.

910
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,079
Speaker 7: And also if I could record at night after all

911
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:42,239
my kids went to bed, well, unfortunately, at night that's

912
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,760
when Angel's family is all home and she can spend

913
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,440
time with them. And Nikki is now a single mom

914
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,920
with three kids. She can't load up her three kids

915
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,840
and come over at nine o'clock at night. I can't

916
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,639
load up my three kids and come over to her

917
00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:58,079
house at nine o'clock at night. So there was never

918
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:01,800
going to be a permanent solutionshan.

919
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:05,039
Speaker 4: To be able to just manage it all for long term.

920
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:08,159
And so I couldn't look my little six year old

921
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:10,239
in the face anymore and tell them, you know, things

922
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:11,239
will be fine.

923
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:14,519
Speaker 7: So that's why I decided to step away, and I

924
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:17,760
gave the girls all the stuff, and I hope them

925
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,719
the best and I'm sure that they will make awesome

926
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,960
things out of it. We're all we're all still cool,

927
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,639
like there's nothing wrong that way.

928
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,079
Speaker 4: Just family always comes first.

929
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 6: So of course it's just kind of bad timing, I guess,

930
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,280
but the timing will come and then it'll be great.

931
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

932
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 7: And the one cool thing is uh my husband, Quinn.

933
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,760
He's been on our show more than once. He was

934
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,960
our disclaimer of voice.

935
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:42,119
Speaker 4: He's the Color Me Dead boys, the voice of David Parker.

936
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,559
Speaker 7: Ray in episodes I think twenty through twenty three.

937
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 4: And his voice has been very sought after. People love

938
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,719
his voice nice.

939
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 7: And we've always kind of played around with doing our

940
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,559
own podcast, and Color Me Dad just took up so

941
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:57,119
much time that that wasn't a thing.

942
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,559
Speaker 4: So now that I don't have to worry about that, we're.

943
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 7: Kind of we're gonna move forward and we're gonna have

944
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:03,480
our own podcasts and it's.

945
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 4: Gonna it's gonna branch away from Color Me Dead. I'm

946
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,119
changing completely how I want.

947
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,559
Speaker 7: Us to talk about things, and we'll talk about all

948
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,039
all those subjects that you can't bring up around random strangers.

949
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:22,639
Speaker 4: Well you can, but you're gonna get weird looks, so right.

950
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,599
Speaker 7: Usually that's my go to because I'm not a very

951
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,480
around crowds. I'm a very shy person, and so usually

952
00:48:30,519 --> 00:48:32,840
if people talk to me a whole bunch, I spout

953
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,039
off random facts about the serial killer because either they're

954
00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:38,880
gonna love me or they're gonna leave me alone, and

955
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,800
I'm okay with either.

956
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,559
Speaker 3: So well, well, that's gonna be a good segue into

957
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:47,440
what we're gonna be doing here tonight, because we have

958
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,760
a little segment called Ember's Killer Facts. And what we're

959
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,159
gonna do is you have prepared a list of one

960
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:59,519
to ten of random facts about serial killers, and me

961
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:03,199
and Tracy going to take turns picking numbers, and if

962
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,400
we don't get through all of them this time, we'll

963
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,679
do this again, which is the intention, and uh, we're

964
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:10,840
just going to have some fun with it. So are

965
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,599
you ready for this trade?

966
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 6: I'm ready.

967
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:15,159
Speaker 3: I will let Tracy And first of all, before we

968
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:17,159
get into this, I had no idea that was Quinn

969
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,400
on the begin at the beginning of your shows doing

970
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,039
the disclaimer.

971
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, that's my husband.

972
00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:24,519
Speaker 3: He does have an awesome voice. I had no clue.

973
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:27,840
I just thought that was something you'll had professionally done.

974
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 4: Nope, nope. I I've sat my husband down and I said,

975
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,480
make you have a good voice that can.

976
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,639
Speaker 7: Be stern and understood and it's deep and it's awesome,

977
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,559
and so do it. And he's actually been on a

978
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:44,960
different podcast from one of our friends. I say Corpus

979
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,760
del Taco now because there was this whole thing, but

980
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,840
it's Corpus Delicti or however people want to say it.

981
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:54,119
Speaker 4: And so he's been on their show before, so it's

982
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:54,719
kind of cool.

983
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:57,119
Speaker 6: That is cool. So he's going to be hooked and

984
00:49:57,199 --> 00:49:58,960
ready to go when you're all ready to do.

985
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 4: It, exactly, exactly, exactly. So serial killer facts, all.

986
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: Right, pick a number, any number, Tracy, pick a.

987
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 7: Number, number number sick. Oh look you picked John Wayne Gacy.

988
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:12,639
Speaker 3: Nice.

989
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 7: Ha fun, fun fun. So if people don't know who

990
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,480
John Wayne Gacy is, oh my gosh, my dog was

991
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:22,239
so loud. I am so sorry.

992
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't allow dogs on the show, man, I'm

993
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,960
so sorry.

994
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 4: But John Wayne Gacy was also known as Pogo the Clown.

995
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:39,519
Speaker 7: He unfortunately was a total piece of work, and he

996
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,800
murdered thirty three boys that we know of, and he

997
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,880
hid most of them.

998
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 4: Under his Carl Space in his house. Yeah.

999
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 7: So my fun little fact about him is, and it's

1000
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,440
probably I don't know, I never know what it's like

1001
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:57,719
super well known and what it's not, but he was

1002
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,039
actually photographed with the firstly at the time, so Rosalind Carter,

1003
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,840
as he was receiving his Secret Service clearance. He's probably

1004
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,840
the only serial killer that we knew love that was

1005
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,039
actually granted Secret Service clearance.

1006
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 3: Obviously they did a great job of checking that.

1007
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: Out mm hmmm.

1008
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:21,519
Speaker 7: And it was just because he was such a prominent

1009
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:27,880
member and he was very much a Democratic Party activist,

1010
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:29,239
and he was always.

1011
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,079
Speaker 4: Doing things within his community.

1012
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 7: And that's how he got his clearance.

1013
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 4: So I've always found that weird because that's what everybody says.

1014
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 7: Obviously, back in the day, they didn't do their research

1015
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:42,320
very well.

1016
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: You know what's funny. I have a little John Wayne

1017
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,400
Gacy story that actually I was researching for this particular

1018
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,599
show trying to find some scary Christmas stories, and one

1019
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:56,159
of the stories I ran across was actually a little

1020
00:51:56,199 --> 00:51:59,320
girl said that when she was well, she went a

1021
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,360
little girl at the time or when she told the story,

1022
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,760
but when she was a little girl, she can remember

1023
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,039
her dad having a conversation. It was Christmas time and

1024
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:10,039
all the relatives were over and she walked into the

1025
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:13,440
room and they just quit talking, and she said he

1026
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:18,239
seemed like he was visibly disturbed. And years later she

1027
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,800
found out that what he talked about every year this

1028
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,320
got brought up is that when he was younger, him

1029
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,320
and a friend decided to go to a gay bar.

1030
00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:29,639
And when they were at this gay bar, this guy

1031
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:32,920
approached him was talking about he had some work that

1032
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,400
he needed done for his house and invited him and

1033
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,800
his buddy over, and he decided, you know, I just

1034
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,559
got a funny feeling about this guy. I'm not gonna

1035
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:43,239
do it. But his buddy did go over there to

1036
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,239
work on his house and he was one of the

1037
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,760
guys that they found in his cross space.

1038
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,119
Speaker 4: Wow, So that's crazy.

1039
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,519
Speaker 6: You just do not know people.

1040
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: I mean you really don't. Yeah.

1041
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 6: I mean somebody that can just be in the public

1042
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,519
guy like that, And I mean you just don't know

1043
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:01,599
what goes on behind closed doors. That is really scary.

1044
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you just side eye everybody. Yeah, made

1045
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:08,800
this play it safe. Yeah, and don't trust anybody.

1046
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I got one a.

1047
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 4: Couple Oh, hold on, I'm not done. Well, sorry, I

1048
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:19,320
was also just gonna say I don't.

1049
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 7: Know how many people knew that he was also a

1050
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,960
mortician's assistant, which is how he knew how to handle

1051
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,360
bodies and how he was able to hide them under

1052
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,280
his crawl space for.

1053
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,679
Speaker 4: So long without his wife or his children finding him.

1054
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,079
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I had no clue.

1055
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 3: Wow, do you have some do you have some more?

1056
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:35,880
Can I go on with our show?

1057
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 4: You can? You can lead your show now. I deeply apologize.

1058
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 6: That was that was really interesting because I guess if

1059
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:49,760
so he was worked with a mortician that I mean,

1060
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,599
he had to have the smell somehow.

1061
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, he probably probably used the line or the

1062
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,760
line all the other stuff that they tend to use.

1063
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's interesting.

1064
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:03,639
Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, yeah, are you done now? Because I have

1065
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:04,000
a question?

1066
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: Question?

1067
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Well, okay, it's not really a question. I

1068
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,400
just have a number, number.

1069
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 7: Two, number two. Oh, you pick my favorite one. Okay,

1070
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,000
So we're going to talk about Richard Chase, now.

1071
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 3: Dick Chase, who is.

1072
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 7: Also Dick Chase, Dick Trent and Chase. He was another

1073
00:54:25,039 --> 00:54:28,880
serial killer. And unfortunately, the reason why I love this

1074
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,880
case so much is because it's also extremely tragic.

1075
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 4: He was.

1076
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 7: He had schizophrenia, very very severe, and even as a teenager,

1077
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:43,199
he knew something was wrong, and he went to different doctor.

1078
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:46,719
There's numerous times saying there's something wrong with me, Please

1079
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,719
help me, Please help me, and they would help him

1080
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,079
for a time.

1081
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: But this was also in.

1082
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 7: The seventies and so they didn't really have a full

1083
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,840
grasp on schizophrenia like they do now, and so they

1084
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,239
would hospitalize and medicate him for a little while.

1085
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 4: And then let him be released.

1086
00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, his mom's way and his parents' way of handling

1087
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,360
that was let's just take him and put him in

1088
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,039
his own apartment, completely isolated, which is the worst thing

1089
00:55:11,039 --> 00:55:16,360
that you can do. And yeah, he was also known

1090
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,719
as the vampire Sacramento.

1091
00:55:18,199 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 4: He drank victim's blood.

1092
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,559
Speaker 7: He was actually shooting himself up with rabbit's blood throughout

1093
00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:24,800
different times when he was trying to get help because

1094
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,199
he felt that his heart was.

1095
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 4: Going to turn into powder and he.

1096
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,679
Speaker 7: Was losing blood and all this different things that way.

1097
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:37,000
But as far as his fun fact is, he used

1098
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:39,920
to actually blend up body parts and mix it with

1099
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,400
coca cola to make a kind of weird milkshake out

1100
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,280
of it. Yeah, definitely not two things I would ever

1101
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:48,960
put together.

1102
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 4: But you know, who am I to judge?

1103
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,079
Speaker 6: That's what I do the best.

1104
00:55:55,199 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 3: Well, if if one of his victims' name was Hope,

1105
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,199
he could be making Hope floats.

1106
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 6: Okay, that was a stretch.

1107
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 4: Oh you. He also thought that the way that he

1108
00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:09,719
could absorb.

1109
00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 7: Vitamin see better was to put orange pills on his head,

1110
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,840
so he would randomly pill an orange and then just

1111
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,079
put him on his head and walk around for a while.

1112
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 6: Well, I'll be dang, that's crazy.

1113
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 3: That's one. That's one fact that I didn't know about it.

1114
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,199
A matter of fact, I think I actually posted that

1115
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,960
this week on the on the Facebook page. Is one

1116
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,559
of the little twisted thoughts.

1117
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 4: Gosh, well see look at you go. You don't even

1118
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:32,760
need me.

1119
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:35,039
Speaker 3: It was luck stop. I fell into it.

1120
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 6: I haven't any of this stuff. This is so interesting.

1121
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: But then again, she's not heard of any of the

1122
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,440
stuff we do on our show.

1123
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 4: So maybe she just pretends that way to make you

1124
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:46,440
feel better.

1125
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably what it is. You're trying to pick

1126
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,199
a number of princess.

1127
00:56:55,559 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, little or more?

1128
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 7: Oh dang, no, I mean there could be more, but

1129
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,719
I would just give you a full episode.

1130
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 4: On it, and so no, you can pick another number.

1131
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 6: Four.

1132
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 4: Four, Okay, So number four is Danny Rowling who is

1133
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,280
also known as the.

1134
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 7: Gainesville Ripper, and he was obviously another serial killer who

1135
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:26,920
murdered five students in Gainesville, Florida, and then later he

1136
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,760
confessed to raping several of his victims.

1137
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:32,519
Speaker 4: And he also.

1138
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,679
Speaker 7: Did a triple homicide in Louisiana, and he attempted to

1139
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:42,760
murder his dad, and he ultimately confessed to killing eight people. Now,

1140
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,719
his little fun facts, which isn't really a fun fact.

1141
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,239
I mean, if you look into the murder at all,

1142
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,920
you're gonna know. But what he did with his victims

1143
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,440
is after he had murdered them, he would usually pose

1144
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:59,440
them in provocative poses and like set up mirrors and stuff,

1145
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,199
so when whoever found them, they would find this dead

1146
00:58:02,239 --> 00:58:06,960
body doing inappropriate things to itself. And one time he

1147
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:10,679
actually decapitated one of the women and set her head

1148
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,880
up above to where it was looking down on her

1149
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,079
body doing the inappropriate things.

1150
00:58:17,159 --> 00:58:18,159
Speaker 4: A real piece of work.

1151
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: What a sick.

1152
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he also has Sadly, he has a very

1153
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,119
beautiful singing voice. I've actually heard one of his tapes

1154
00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:32,119
before of him singing, and if you never knew him

1155
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:34,840
and you just heard his stuff, like you'd be like, oh,

1156
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,079
he sounds really good.

1157
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 4: I really like him.

1158
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,599
Speaker 7: And then you find out who it is and it's

1159
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:42,440
just bone chilling because you're like, oh my gosh.

1160
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:43,719
Speaker 4: This person is terrible.

1161
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 6: All is wrong.

1162
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:53,719
Speaker 4: It goes back into that whole thing you can't trust anybody.

1163
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:55,760
Just when you think you're safe, you're not.

1164
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:58,239
Speaker 3: I wonder how many people's chairs would turn around on

1165
00:58:58,239 --> 00:58:58,920
the voice if he.

1166
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:05,559
Speaker 4: Was on there, probably all four. He has a great voice.

1167
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,119
Speaker 3: My goodness, that'd be the interview i'd like to see afterwards.

1168
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:13,800
Let's just talk about where he grew up. He had

1169
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,280
a rough childhood, tried to kill his.

1170
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 4: Dad, no big deal.

1171
00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:21,159
Speaker 7: Yeah he was Actually he was put to death in

1172
00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:24,960
two thousand and six by lethal injection, thankfully, So that

1173
00:59:25,079 --> 00:59:25,880
makes it mpy.

1174
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:29,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has a big waste of space. We don't

1175
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:30,679
need him around.

1176
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:33,559
Speaker 3: No, we do not. All right, we'll do one more

1177
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:37,280
and we'll finish up on this one eleven.

1178
00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:42,719
Speaker 7: Eleven That was not one through ten, But you're lucky

1179
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,599
that I have an elevens.

1180
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: Let's do let's do number eight.

1181
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 4: Oh you cut out number one eight number eight. Oh okay.

1182
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,599
Speaker 7: So this is actually a case that I'm I will

1183
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:58,239
be featuring, and it's about the Snowtown murders. And the

1184
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,599
Snowtown murders were South Australia. And what's funny is back

1185
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:05,519
when I was with Color Me Dead, I had said

1186
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:07,840
that I've always wanted to cover the story, but what

1187
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,920
you can find on the Internet versus what you can

1188
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,599
find through other sources are two completely different things. And

1189
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:15,000
there was this book that I really really wanted, but

1190
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,800
who's like fifty dollars or something, and so I was like, oh,

1191
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,039
it will be a minute. And one of my good friends,

1192
01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:24,280
her name is Sonya, she actually had the book and

1193
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,079
she sent it to me.

1194
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,519
Speaker 4: So I've been reading through that and it's fascinating.

1195
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:32,679
Speaker 7: But my fun fact about the Snowtown murder in South

1196
01:00:32,719 --> 01:00:36,880
Australia is there were four people that committed the crimes

1197
01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:40,400
and there were for at least six bodies.

1198
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:41,679
Speaker 4: Found, but none of them.

1199
01:00:41,719 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 7: They're all found in the town of Snowtown, but none

1200
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:48,119
of the people involved wherever from Snowtown.

1201
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 4: It's like a body dump site, which is usually.

1202
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:53,679
Speaker 7: Pretty rare because usually where somebody is found, they're usually

1203
01:00:53,679 --> 01:00:56,719
from there or somebody's from there, and in this case,

1204
01:00:57,239 --> 01:01:00,639
nobody was from there, So unfortunately, Snowtown just kind of

1205
01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:01,519
got crapped on.

1206
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:04,119
Speaker 4: And one of the old there was this old.

1207
01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:08,239
Speaker 7: Lady that had a shot there and she had a dark,

1208
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,360
twisted sense of humor, and I wish, I wish that

1209
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:16,679
she was still doing stuff. She actually made almost like ceramic,

1210
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,960
but I don't know ceramic things, sculptures, whatever.

1211
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: And it was a barrel because.

1212
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:27,199
Speaker 7: They found all these people in bats of acid and

1213
01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:29,320
stuff in an old bank.

1214
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:32,559
Speaker 4: And she had this little barrel that had a head.

1215
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 7: And like a foot sticking out that would say Snowtown

1216
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,199
on it. And she would also have magnets that would

1217
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:40,880
have barrels on it and would say welcome to Snowtown.

1218
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:48,119
Were barrels of fun, right, Like you don't want to

1219
01:01:48,199 --> 01:01:49,400
laugh because it's horrible.

1220
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 4: That is hilarious.

1221
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 3: Well, I love all the true crime stuff, as far

1222
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,519
as you know. I don't. I don't necessarily love like

1223
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:01,960
every story, but I love certain stories like we just

1224
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,079
did you know Room ten forty six. I think that's fascinating,

1225
01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:09,760
The HH Holmes stuff, Jack the Ripper, I think all

1226
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:14,039
those are interesting. Yeah, But like there's a couple that

1227
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:17,400
I end up I want to cover it, whether it

1228
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,000
be a patron episode or the regular episode. But the

1229
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,239
town of Dreaded Sundown, the movie was based on the

1230
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,400
textar Cana Murderser. I think that would be an awesome

1231
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,280
story to do, so I plan on doing that one.

1232
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,440
I love a lot of the cult stuff, like the

1233
01:02:31,719 --> 01:02:35,000
Jonestown massacre. As a matter of fact, we've got a

1234
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:38,320
listener of ours up in Germany. She's one of our

1235
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:43,599
military listeners. She sent me something that a friend had

1236
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:46,159
put together, but it was I guess they had to

1237
01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:49,480
go in there and clean up the bodies after the fact,

1238
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,679
and it was like the first hand account of what

1239
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:54,480
went on then, which I've never heard anything about. So

1240
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:58,639
I've got that little tidbit of information that I'm just

1241
01:02:58,679 --> 01:03:01,920
going to hold on to that Victoria sent us. And

1242
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,559
when I do that story, hopefully it'll add something to

1243
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:06,400
it that nobody else has been able to put to it.

1244
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I hope.

1245
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 6: So.

1246
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:12,599
Speaker 7: I love I love different colds, especially that, especially that story.

1247
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,079
That one's always fascinated me ever since I was little,

1248
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:20,440
and I like different things. There's a lot of most of.

1249
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:24,119
Speaker 4: Your more popular serial killers that we all know about.

1250
01:03:24,159 --> 01:03:26,800
Most of them I find annoying. And I don't know why.

1251
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 3: It's because Ted Bundy. Ted Bundy, like, for example, all

1252
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,599
anybody talks about him was how good luck and he

1253
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,320
was It's like, that's you.

1254
01:03:36,719 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 4: You can't mention did you see his face?

1255
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 3: Well compared to other ones, compared to like Richard Ramirez

1256
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,880
and uh uh some of these other ones. So John

1257
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,039
Wayne Gacy, I guess he was pretty attractive.

1258
01:03:48,159 --> 01:03:50,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's still I don't know. He kind of

1259
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:52,280
looks like a cross eyed Siamese cat to me. So,

1260
01:03:55,559 --> 01:03:57,320
but yeah, like a lot of them, a lot of

1261
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:58,719
your heavy hitters.

1262
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 4: I don't really it's not I don't know. I just

1263
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,519
feel like they.

1264
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,119
Speaker 7: Were overinflated when there are so many other ones that,

1265
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:08,880
once you start digging into that are way more I

1266
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:13,400
don't know, tragic, interesting, The psychology of it is way better.

1267
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 4: Like I don't know how to explain.

1268
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: It, but well Ed Dean is one of the big

1269
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,559
ones that actually lived up to the hype, though, I mean,

1270
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,639
he had so many factors and when and I thought

1271
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:29,800
Dahmer was kind of like that too. They're the bigger

1272
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,199
names but they have so many different facets right.

1273
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:36,239
Speaker 4: Right, and well ed Dean he was more.

1274
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,559
Speaker 7: He was just pretty much just goulish and disgusting, and

1275
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,039
I you know, that was one of the last cases

1276
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:46,480
that I really did, was color me dead and reading

1277
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,800
through different things I've gone through, and I've thought a

1278
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:49,960
bunch of different things about him.

1279
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 4: But still at the end of the day, we have

1280
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:55,039
ed gan to think for most of our horror films,

1281
01:04:56,159 --> 01:04:58,559
that story kind of was the birth of a lot

1282
01:04:58,599 --> 01:04:59,320
of different things.

1283
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 7: I mean, they had Psycho and then Texas Chainsaw Massacre,

1284
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,920
and he was gleaned from the silence of the lambs,

1285
01:05:06,119 --> 01:05:09,039
and with all those are different create you know, like

1286
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:14,360
creative juices, And so would our her history be what

1287
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:15,039
it is.

1288
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,519
Speaker 4: Today without him? I don't think so.

1289
01:05:16,519 --> 01:05:19,199
Speaker 7: So I think that's why he's most well known, and

1290
01:05:19,239 --> 01:05:22,400
it was also very shocking for its time. It's one

1291
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,480
thing to kill somebody, but it's another thing to decorate

1292
01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:27,039
your house with them after they're dead.

1293
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, yeah, you know, he's no Martha Stewart,

1294
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:32,320
but you know.

1295
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,239
Speaker 4: He was a Martha Stewart. I mean, he did not

1296
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,000
put anything the waste. Did you see that skin lamp?

1297
01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:41,440
Some fine qualitality.

1298
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,039
Speaker 3: Amber. It's been a fantastic having you on the show.

1299
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:50,840
It's been a long time coming. I tried to get

1300
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,559
you on back months ago when schedules just didn't allow.

1301
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,039
But it was fun having you on and I greatly

1302
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:00,360
appreciate it, and I know Tracy does, and I think

1303
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,400
all the listeners are going to love it because what

1304
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,719
we're finding out with the last show we did that

1305
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,360
was more of a true crime based show than paranormal.

1306
01:06:08,719 --> 01:06:11,719
It's gotten the most listens we've ever gotten our show,

1307
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,599
so I think people will love hearing this little bit

1308
01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:14,960
on here.

1309
01:06:15,079 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 4: Well, that's awesome, and thanks for having me on. I

1310
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,280
love your guys' show.

1311
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 7: I've listened to you since pretty much it started into podcasting.

1312
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,679
I think I randomly found you guys on Twitter some

1313
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:28,239
say one time and I'm like, hmm.

1314
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 4: Let's listen, and I listened and I enjoy you guys.

1315
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,039
Speaker 7: So I've been trying to play it cool and not

1316
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:37,440
act like I'm fangirling.

1317
01:06:37,639 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 4: So I hope it's working.

1318
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, you'ret We're just honored to have you on our show.

1319
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 7: Well, thank you guys so much for having me, and

1320
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,719
I hope that you guys have a wonderful evening.

1321
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,679
Speaker 6: All right, we don't talk to you having merry Christmas.

1322
01:06:53,719 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 7: Okay, oh, yes, you do the very same. I forget

1323
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,800
that Christmas is so soon. So yeah, have a merry

1324
01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,599
Christmas guys.

1325
01:06:59,679 --> 01:07:03,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, will Yeah, this episode actually comes out on Christmas Eve.

1326
01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 6: Oh cool.

1327
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,679
Speaker 4: Oh well, Merry Christmas Eve. Everybody, have a lovely day.

1328
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,159
Speaker 3: All right, We'll talk to you later.

1329
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,079
Speaker 4: All right, see you guys, Bye bye.

1330
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 3: So that's Amberg and her little Killer facts. I thought

1331
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,639
that was a pretty cool little segment.

1332
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:24,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's learned a lot. Actually, she, like I.

1333
01:07:24,239 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 3: Said, is going to have her new show, and when

1334
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,320
she gets it up and running, will help her. But

1335
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,760
I think she said that, you know, we're looking at

1336
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:29,840
probably March.

1337
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,639
Speaker 6: After the holiday on that stuff.

1338
01:07:31,719 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be kind of fun. Also, also, what's gonna

1339
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,199
be fun? You probably heard at the beginning of the show,

1340
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,119
we ran a promo for Mirths and Monsters. That's actually

1341
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:46,320
c K or Kevin Classic Kevin, depends on what you

1342
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,960
want to call him, but I prefer I prefer Kevin,

1343
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,360
but he goes he goes by c K for and

1344
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,679
he got his name Classic Kevin from the Girls from

1345
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,760
and that's why we drink. Yeah, they did that the

1346
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,760
episode about the the death chair that was like a

1347
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,039
haunted chair. I supposed if you touch it, and he

1348
01:08:04,119 --> 01:08:06,960
actually went up to it, and he went to the

1349
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:09,199
chair and actually took pictures of him touching and stuff

1350
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:12,440
like that, and they were going on, it's classic Kevin, classic,

1351
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:14,599
so he started using the term classic Kevin.

1352
01:08:14,719 --> 01:08:16,159
Speaker 6: So brave.

1353
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: But they've actually helped him a whole lot in getting

1354
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,600
started and all that, and we talk a lot on Facebook.

1355
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,680
So we're going to actually set him up the first

1356
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,520
week of January. We're going to do an interview and

1357
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,039
come on. So if you haven't heard his show yet,

1358
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,600
First of all, he's got a coole ass Scottish accent,

1359
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,960
so that's the first thing. He'll be the Firstcottish accent

1360
01:08:34,039 --> 01:08:37,680
we've had on the show. But his show is very clean,

1361
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,760
it's very family oriented, it's funny, it's short. They're only

1362
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,359
like twenty thirty minutes long. But yeah, if you like

1363
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,119
myths and legends, which I absolutely love, he's kind of

1364
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,760
it's similar to that in the fact that it's kind

1365
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,960
of funny and he's talking about, you know, some folklore

1366
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:59,520
and myths and legends. Stuff like that. But it's a

1367
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,079
really cool show. And like I said, it's very kid friendly.

1368
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:04,840
So if you've got children out there that like listening

1369
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,520
to podcasts, it's the perfect show for him to listen to.

1370
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,760
So and plus he got nominated and actually was like

1371
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,920
in the top five and those podcast awards that just

1372
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,039
came out. Yeah, and for and you know, for him

1373
01:09:16,039 --> 01:09:18,039
being a pretty new show. I think he's only got

1374
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:23,399
fifteen sixteen episodes. Great, but he's an overall great guy.

1375
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,800
And I think you guys check it out. So Mirth's

1376
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,880
and Monsters wherever you listen to podcasts, give them a listen. Guys,

1377
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,199
Merry Christmas, Thank you so much for an awesome year.

1378
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:36,760
I hope everybody has a safe time. Just because we

1379
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,520
didn't do it at the beginning, I saved it to the

1380
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,920
end for a special but I want to give a

1381
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,800
special Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all

1382
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,880
of our military and civil servants all over the world.

1383
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:51,840
It's tough being away from your family, and I just

1384
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,760
wanted to say that we appreciate everything you guys do

1385
01:09:56,319 --> 01:10:01,079
because without you guys making these sacrifice, we wouldn't be

1386
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:02,640
able to do the things that we do, and so

1387
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,439
many other people around the world wouldn't be able to

1388
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,119
do what they do. You guys give us the gift

1389
01:10:07,159 --> 01:10:09,680
of freedom here at Christmas, and there is no bigger

1390
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:10,279
gift than that.

1391
01:10:10,359 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 6: Amen. Well said, babe.

1392
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:13,359
Speaker 3: We will see you next week.

1393
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 6: Hey, Christmas guys. We love you all and enjoy your family.