Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to your monthly edition
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the Gimmick. I'm the Canadian Nightmare as always, and I'm
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Live from the Cody versus see.
Speaker 2: Live from the Cody versus man David has it going, guys.
Speaker 1: And then finally for this guy in the chair.
Speaker 3: It's a sbubs here.
Speaker 4: I had a lot of good nicknames thinking about it,
you know, all this whole month, but after last.
Speaker 3: Night I had to go with work. Shoot brother.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, even though it's not wrestling, it felt like wrestlier,
So I didn't watch the full thing. Also, we were
talking about if people whenever you're listening about the Tyson
Paul thing, and yeah, I learned this the hard way,
where I don't know David might know this was you
were maybe younger. What can was it? Pakia and maywhere
it came first or Mayweather McGregor that came first when
they did their fight Mayweather kick okay, but and the
bad and I don't think this fight was this, but
there was something at least in the McGregor fight. I
think that came out where it's like for each round
they win, they got paid more and more, and that's
it's like, oh, well, this is nothing. And watching those
two fights from like professional fighters and then being like
kind of disappointing. I knew this would be it, but like,
at least the Internet provides some good memes along the way,
you know, like Mike Tyson's ass cheeks are everwhere this morning?
So and I know I don't know who could do it,
but I feel like if BT was still around, that
would have been the perfect thing for someone to do,
because I don't think maybe someone netflix are raw you know,
solo get rack to do it all raw doing it
would be great. He's got a bit, he's shown his
cheeks before, but uh yeah no that That's why I
love real sports. But you know, all I saw my
timeline was a bunch of people being like, man, what
a waste of time. And of course sometimes wrestling can
be a waste of time, but majority in those big situations,
you know, usually try and make you happy or at
least somewhat of emotionallyness.
Speaker 4: On those I haven't been scammed to this spat by
a main event in at and T Stadium since WrestleMania
thirty two.
Speaker 1: I oh yeah, I was there. That was. That was
one where thank god, we went to the NXT when
they were doing their takeovers and they were like the
s tire every takeover was great because yeah we went
there as me Andily and my sister and all of
us were like man like the rest it was there
were waste being out of WrestleMania, but it did feel
like geez, that was. That was something. And yeah, that
main event, it was very odd. Triple h want to
work a very slow stop the fact that Tripleach was
even in the main event. But I digress. But you know,
we'll talk about triplat because I'm sure you know at
Survivor series is gonna open up with big pop ch
coming out. But yeah, well we got on the docket today.
We're gonna do a draft shake up because we got
is this our last one? Are we doing one more?
Before change?
Speaker 4: We had a we had a rumble one planned, but
I don't really know if like because it's like I
figured out a way to do it even if you
weren't here. I have a possible plan for it.
Speaker 1: I could always call I can always call in for that.
I can radio from the Twins room. So yeah, no,
let's say we do it worst case too. If I
want to make no switches, then I'll just say I
don't need any switches done because around Rumble time. But
I think it's worth doing because if one of us
has a top pick but there's an injury, I think
it's a before like WrestleMania season because if people don't
know we're doing our draft, but we're ending elimination chambers
the last night, right, I think that's I think.
Speaker 4: I forget if we agreed elimination chamber before elimination chamber.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, elimination chamber.
Speaker 1: I think it's shamber because we didn't do it last year, right,
we did before Mania, so yeah, we always do it
right before May.
Speaker 4: So yeah, well yeah, yeah, it's pretty much at the
point where we kind of know like what WrestleMania is.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, okay, so yeah we'll do that. That'll probably
be our pre one. So yeah, no, I will be
obviously people listening. First, I will be gone for a
little bit, just a couple episodes of the Gimmick, but
by rumble, that's that's the plan to be back for
that because I want to see you on that show.
But yeah, so you got a couple episodes of a
David s. Bubbs holding it down, the two man power trip.
You know, don't kill it, don't don't don't destroy the No, no,
I trust you guys. But yeah, yeah, exactly, the Mega
powers I closed. But uh yeah, so what we're gonna
do today, We're gonna do our second draft shakeup where
we can drop some people pick up them. People made
some oh yeah second, yeah, because we did want a
summer Slam issue.
Speaker 3: I think no money in the bank, right.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, right, because you tried that Tiffany trade and
I was happy in it because I was like, yeah,
I think she's winning that you mentioned.
Speaker 4: But yeah, before we went live, we were talking about
like not mentioning some takeaway. That's the only reason you
have Tiffany, because I mentioned the rumor was they're planning
WrestleMania for Minnesota, and I said it earlier, and then
you took her.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, I'm happy, and U did rest get
think at that Minnesota.
Speaker 4: No got like summer Slam in like two years, right.
Speaker 1: It was that that rumor that they supposedly be like yeah,
well the WrestleMania with you and then they announce a
different city of Minnesota. Was like, and they're like, oh,
but you get a two night Summer Slam.
Speaker 4: You'll be happy.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, So yeah, we're gonna do that, and
then we're gonna talk about Survivor series predictions. I know
there's some raw stuff that's taped, so anything that's spoilers,
we're probably gonna cover, but we'll put it at the
back half of the predictions and we will give you
a warning. But I think if you're listening to the show,
you've probably seen the spoilers. And then yeah, we'll do
We're gonna do our top ten themes. Uh so everyone
has that. We're gonna talk about the Women's US Championship Tournament,
we'll talk about starting a main event, and then we'll
do aw full gear and then anything else that comes up.
So s Bubs, you want to give us the current
standings of the rosters and then we'll go up.
Speaker 4: I actually haven't done SmackDown yet. From all I can,
I can just look at it and see if there's
any major I don't think it's like no.
Speaker 1: This night unless someone I did have Naya, so I got.
Speaker 4: Some point I can Okay, what I can do is
I can read the list of the current rosters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so right now, s Bub's current roster bastards Cody Rhoads.
They you know, I'm We'll get into the whole Cody thing.
I'm not happy about him being I think pushed aside.
We'll get there, but at least for the points of
some happy for rest spots that codedros might take a
couple of non main events, but even Crown Julie got.
But right now, Espeb's currently has Code Rhods, Randy Orton, Bailey,
Drew McIntyre, sammy's A, Johnny Gargano, Yo, sky Lyra Valkira Andrade,
and Chelsea Green. I'm glad I remember Androdi because like
I might pick him up. But no, you got them all.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm done. There are only four matches.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. And then my current roster is
Ria Ripley, seth Rawlans. So just people that continually fucking
get injured. It's just great as my top two picks
Jade Cargill, Tiffany Stratton, Jay Uso, Brown, Breaker, Live Morgan Carmelo, Hayes,
Nya Jacks and Solo Socola, and then David, you got
gunther Bianca, bel Air, Damian Priest, Tomatonga, Uncle, Howdy, l
A Knight, Jacob Fatu, Finn Vala, Our Truth and Kofi
Kingston and then who's all in our? I think the
only thing I don't have this richis yeah I.
Speaker 4: Have Tazawa, Gravis has Elton Prince, yeah, right, and David
has exaber Woods xaber woulds is like a weird pick
because you'll get you'll get. It's literally one week he
wins and one week you loses. So you got two
minus one two minus one, two minus one, two minus one.
But I guess you could say that's a good pick
since he's still losing like more than else. Prinstance Izawa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to find he's at least on TV.
Speaker 2: He's at least on TV.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if if I was wondering, I didn't
know if it was gonna happen to nobody if they
have like won this tournament and like won the tag titles,
what's the what's the demotion? Here's like a like a
minus ten for your job for winning.
Speaker 3: A yeah title?
Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, could still happen, So yeah, we'll see, I've
been trying to find somebody but not found like the
perfect person. But yeah, we'll see. But yeah, what's the
point that he's at right now?
Speaker 4: About through here? So I am at three hundred and
sixty four normal points, which with three hundred thirty nine
bonus points. Travis's has four hundred thirty three normal points
with two hundred bonus points. Okay, and David is at
three hundred and nineteen normal points with two hundred fifty
three bonus points.
Speaker 1: What bonus points did you have to I feel like
you were lower a couple last month we did this,
so a couple of your guys and gals are having
a couple of good months there.
Speaker 4: But I think it was Crown Jewel. You had like
the pay per view main event, and I think you
would both weekly main events. I'm not sure for who,
but you have thirty bonus points from that week.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: There's definitely helped me a lot.
Speaker 4: And oh yeah, I think it was good through Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like the gaps that supposed definitely for
for a few months running away. Also you're still had
but it feels like a couple big events, a rumble wind,
you know, a cash and it can all change and
everything like that. So yeah, we'll see. So I can't
remember do we have I know we did like a
wheeler sat?
Speaker 4: Do we have spun the wheel and we end up
getting the same order, but you can spend it again.
Speaker 1: Whose was it the order?
Speaker 4: I think it's in the order I have. I think
it's me Travis David.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go with that order because we did the
wheel last time, so so we'll go. It's round by round. So,
s Pops, is there anyone you're wanting to drop from
your roster currently?
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna drop. I have it all highlighted
and stuff because there's someone considering. I think I'm gonna drop.
Let's go. Well, we're doing the other draft, so that's
kind of I was sort of thinking if we weren't
gonna do it, but I guess I could technically pick
these up again, you could pick them. So I think
I'm gonna drop four people?
Speaker 1: Four people? Okay, we'll start, yeah, start, just drop them all. Yeah,
so who you're dropping?
Speaker 4: Let me just write them down so I remember who
I dropped. Okay, I'm gonna write it down over here
because I did that last time, just so we could
see the points like, oh, who were there these like
in the first time we did it over there.
Speaker 1: Four that's a lot of football.
Speaker 3: It could be five.
Speaker 4: But one of them is like I'm holding on hope
and now it's my from the heart pick at the
very start, so I'm not doing it. Okay, here's the
forum dropping. I'm dropping Randy Orton, really drop me. I'm
dropping Drew MacIntyre. I'm dropping Liar of Alkyria. Yeah, man,
I'm dropping Undrawda.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Liar makes sense because she's done fucking nothing.
She went with it.
Speaker 4: When when Becky comes back, she'll get her that that
world title in and she'll rain and all the shows.
Speaker 1: That or Becky's on the main title picture, I could
legitimately seeing them put them together as a team to
be honest and do the whole like rookie because she
Liar's on the beat her in the next seat, right,
so I can see doing the whole like you know,
you can't call it rookie, but you know, mentor or mentee.
They had a couple of segments and maybe whether it's
Becky turns or Lyra turns, which could help. So I
could see them actually doing that, because I know there's
rumors right now Becky coming back to Netflix at RAW,
but I really don't know, Like I feel like everyone's
working with the theory that you know. I sorry, Internet,
I don't care what you say. It's gonna be Rihan
live at WrestleMania. I know everyone in Ria came back,
They're like, oh my god, it means we're not getting
I'm telling you, the Rumble is only a few months away,
and right now we got spar series other than Saturday
Night's main event. There's not like an actual pay per
view before Rumble.
Speaker 4: Right now there's another Saturday main event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but still like that. I guess they could
do it there. But I legitimly think Ria's win that
Rumble or Chamber and she's versed in the lift, so
buckle up, people. I know people are the storyline, but
I think that's happening. And then you got Tiffany and Charlotte.
Everyone's like the working theory, right, and then Jane and Bianca.
I really don't know where Becky would fit. So that's
why I'm not gonna throw a trass told you, but
that's my prediction. I feel like Becky could be with Lyra, but.
Speaker 4: Uh, and I can say the the other ones I
was thinking of dropping that I had at some point,
but then plans have change. So the other one I
was considering was was Johnny Gargana, But I think with
this whole development's going on, I think I'm gonna keep them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, him and Chopp, We're gonna have like another
best of ten, and they're just gonna go back to
they're they're.
Speaker 3: They're kind of like a Mania match, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1: They're like regular wrestlers now, but then when they verse
each other, they're gonna go back to taking like ten
finishers and kicking out and everything.
Speaker 4: So and then the other one I was considering was
Chelsea Green, but I'm keeping her just in case I.
Speaker 1: Wish you dropped he because actually my job or position,
because she still loses a lot. You know, she gets
occasional win, but she loves Why Randy, that's my question
about like Drew, I understand, and I guess it's Randy.
A You're hoping for a short term drop and pick
up because I.
Speaker 4: Feel like I feel like with Randy, like he doesn't
really win like that. Yeah, and also like my whole
thing was like I thought KO was gonna like take
him out at Crown Jewel and then I drop him.
But then here, I don't really know what he's doing
and if it's a possible short time drop and I
would be mad at losing, especially who I want to
pick up. I think I have more upside from some
of the like even just in terms of like wins. Yeah,
like they like I have people who win more than
like Randy Orton in the since week twenty six, he
had two matches one where he too, both were he
lost and one was on oh No One where he
lost in one he won, so three points over five
over seven weeks.
Speaker 1: He's a big promo guy, like he's always in those
types of segments.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you compare that to someone like like Bailey
over from week twenty six to week thirty three, two, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten eleven points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, watch Randy fucking like beat him out like
they do a triple thready to be as Cody, Like
just watch him do that now. But no, that's right.
I still again, I'm still holding out. I hope they're
doing Cody and like I we'll talk about it. I
feel like they gotta do Cody and Randy, we're getting
too close to now. I was wrong. I thought they're
holding off, but we'll see. Okay, So who's your first pick?
So you got four sawts, but you you only go
round by round, so you get to pick one right now?
Who's your or I guess? Are we gonna do our
drops first to see us on the table?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Drops?
Speaker 1: So for me, the I I'm obviously I know Ri
and Seth. They're always They're always questionable. It's like an
NFL draft roster. But I just know they're always gonna
be there for big moments and big wins and stuff.
I'll talk about Seth later. So uh, I like my
whole roster. The only one I'm dropping right now because
I really don't know what they're doing with them. I'm
gonna drop Carmelo. He's somebody I could pick up along
the way, but I thought, especially after they made him
like the number one draft pick. I'm not saying he
was gonna win money of the bank or be the
number you know, like the world champ or anything. And
I know he been in matches and he's won some,
but I just feel like now he's gonna cool off
for a little bit until like Rumble, because I feel
like they do want him to be the guy that
beats Ellie Knight, but they have to hold off and
give Elle Knight a good rain, which I think the
La Knight rain is. Like I'm happy for him, but
the fact we're already circling back to.
Speaker 4: Like, uh, give him the pre rumble knockmorf you like
Cody last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what they're gonna do. Like I could
see them getting to Mania and doing Hayes and Night
there and that's where Hayes get the win. So that's
what I'm saying, maybe eventually, but I still thought that
Hayes would be just just more of a presence on SmackDown,
like just just something. But he just hasn't been. He's
been working matches with him and Dradic killing it. But
uh yeah, I'm gonna drop him. But that's that's the
only one I'm dropping. I'm happy with nine. I'm happy
with Solo. Like Solo's overperformed, like being a main events,
He's like all this stuff. He's he's penn in Roman
Reigns on pay per views, so like, uh yeah, and
everybody else Jay Brown breaker, So there's only a few
people that I would add over Carmelo, and I guess,
I guess worst case, if they get picked, I'll just
pick Carmelo back up, but I'll drop them to potentially
get somebody. So, uh, David, is there anybody from your
roster you're dropping?
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm definitely dropping three and that would be
uh yeah, so I'm going with dropping Uncle Howdie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bit. I respect the gamble because it
could have worked out. But that's another thing. As people
you know you can join the wrestling are GV discord
the wrestling discord, I'll say the fact that he was
the Halloween Monday Raw. They didn't even have a match
for the Wyats, Triple H. What do you do? And
no confidence? Like the easiest booking, like you can do
all the Halloween gimmicks and the graphics like they can
fight with pumpkins like so easy, like have them just
beat Mitt, Like I don't know what's and it's weird
because like the all the reports are like they push
good merch. So I really don't know what they're doing
with WYA at six right now. I feel like Triple
H is stuck. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's getting dropped. Uh, our truth is getting dropped.
Speaker 3: Truth.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think recently he hasn't done that much
for you. But in the past he was someone he.
Speaker 2: Had a he had a great run. But now I
think he's gonna he's gonna fall back to backstage comedy segments.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, not really gonna get any points off
the backstage com I mean, you're gonna be on TV
every week, but you're not gonna be doing anything, so
that that does mean nothing. And then Xavier Woods, uh.
Speaker 1: Get a new job or that might be smart with
that the New Day ten you're coming up, they might
be getting.
Speaker 2: Some heat so exactly. So I think with the New
Day stuff, they're gonna get heat up. They're gonna make
him look strong before they do the eventual big thing
with him and Kofe.
Speaker 1: So now he's trying to get him as a as
a regular guy. Now, is that's what's going on here?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you never know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, those are the three that I'm dropping.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think that's gonna be the anniversary thing. I
think is the like not this Monday but next Monday thing. Yeah, yeah,
because they said by the it's in November, and obviously
this one pre takes. It wasn't that episode obviously, and
I think.
Speaker 1: I think they'll do a big sement there one way
or the other. I don't know if they're doing a
fresh festival friendship turn thing. They always said they were
never going to do a turn, so I thought this
was going to be the most. I would love it
for Biggie to come back and be back back, but
I don't know. Every time that guy speaks, I get
depressed because he's just like, yeah, I'll prob. I don't
know if I'll wrestle again. I say I'm doing my
stem cell, but I keep going and it's like, oh,
I just want that that pulp there. So all right,
I'm supposed to You got four picks, so what's your
first pick?
Speaker 4: Well you go here? Okay, So I'm going with this one.
It's been building for a while and I just had
to take it. So I'm taking the newest member of
the New bloodline big.
Speaker 2: Literally top of my list here, literally top of my list.
Speaker 1: Same for me. I had read because like, you know
him and Seth are doing one more match. You know
he's gonna do did we I think, did we establish
for rumble? Are we doing like one points for elimination?
Did we establish that?
Speaker 4: I haven't thought about it yet. I was thinking i'd
like I had like multiple options from bonus points that
we could do. I was thinking, obviously, if you're in
the match, that's already two points. But I was thinking
maybe like just for some fun ones. Yeah, we could
do eliminations, or we could do like lucky numbers, like
we pick these numbers that if it doesn't matter if
you drafted that person, like if your number wins the rumble,
you get like some points.
Speaker 1: I'm down. That's fun. That's a good draft lottery system. Yeah,
I think yeah, I think yeah, even though would be
one points, I'd just still be down for eliminations for
people that might be a bit more number crunching, but
I think it'd be fun for because especially if you
pick some that's like they get the yeah, they get
the big red machine cane push and read could be that.
So yeah, I was with you. I thought, I really
that was.
Speaker 4: Not I like, you guys can't see it, but on
this on this sheet, on my page, I have people
I want and I've highlighted in colors like this is
someone I need. This is someone if someone else isn't
picks them, I can take them. These are ones I
definitely want. These are options. I'm like, I'm like Tony
in the Gift where he has all the holograms and stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm gonna go with my backup pick. I'm
going with this one just because I feel like, not
sure about wins, but I might keep them because it
might get me to some tag toile glory. I'm gonna
get Jimmy Ooso. I think he's gonna be wrestling lots.
He already wrestled solo in the main event. He's gonna
be mainvented and survivors. Heies likely. I think there's a
chance if they do him and Jay back together or
something like. I think he's when I when I cause,
like I said, Carmel's got me some stuff. But when
I look at Carmelo versus a Jimmy or like Bronson,
which I was looking at, it's like, these guys are
gonna be on TV a lot more in matches, big storylines,
potential main events. Like like I said, I think Jimmy,
I don't know if the dream match now of Jimmy
versus j O D like no nos versus j O D.
I don't know if we're getting that, but I'm sure
we're gonna at USO's and machine guns. So like, I
think Jimmy is like a good safe like barring injury.
He's just gonna rack up points for me. He's on
TV a lot, so yeah, going with Jimmy USO. So
I got I got some more bloodline going on in
the No No No Time different than.
Speaker 3: Job or picks.
Speaker 4: He doesn't even get in matches.
Speaker 1: Even last night during smack Down, like he like bought,
like he went to go slam Roman's head in the
pull of the ideas he goes slim Roman and Roman's
gonna turn him, but he did think goes to go
it and then he like redoes it and then goes
to slam him again. It's just like I just don't
I don't understan stand. And like on the House shows
that fucking new finish, like the crowd is is mild.
It's just a clothes lie. It's like one two three.
It's just like it's just crazy. But all right, David,
who's your first draft pick?
Speaker 2: I am high risk, hopefully high reward. I'm going with
the one the only I'm going to acknowledge him. I
think Roman is is going to have a little bit
of a run, so I'm going to put some stock
in that. Okay, that's a possible.
Speaker 1: It's funny, Beca.
Speaker 2: Was my big risk.
Speaker 1: So yeah, because even when when I was reading them down,
I'm like, yeah, no one has no one has Roman.
It's odd, but this, this is a good time to
pick him because you got this, you got rumble coming up.
I feel like there might all see there's always some
breaks for Roman in between. But yeah, that's I'm happy
that you picked him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I at least.
Speaker 1: Because and then again too, like if you were to
take a lead or beat us or something, I wouldn't
be mad because the risk paid off because I think
there is potential for him to get some good stuff
going on. So okay, Roman, finally the big dog is
in the gimmick draft. So all right, s bubs, who's
your second pick?
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna go with I think the one
half of the current Snackdown Tag teap champions. I'm going
with Alex Shelley.
Speaker 1: Okay, is there a reason for Alex and not Chris?
Speaker 4: From what I know, he's done more single stuff. Yeah,
in in case that Coast was a they've both done
single stuff.
Speaker 2: I say, Chris Saban is a former TNA champion.
Speaker 1: Uh, isn't Shelley as too?
Speaker 4: Now I think they both are.
Speaker 1: They gave it to him. Yeah, I forgot that they
gave it to him, So I guess.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm going I'm going with just Alex Shelley.
Speaker 1: Uh for now, I'll say that's smart. There's a couple
one off so you could have with like chomp and
everything like that.
Speaker 4: I think they're getting They're getting matches, so yeah, so
I'm happy with that, and I feel like they'll be
they'll be having at least SmackDown matches often. So that's
good good points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, all right, David, Number two for you,
Number two for me is going to be uh the
returning Shinsky Knackamura okay in the regular role, the Jawa.
Speaker 2: Role in in the regular role.
Speaker 1: Okay, just clearing up because there was a time Knockamore was.
He's taking quite a few losses.
Speaker 2: But I have a feeling that they are going to
do the uh chases better than the championship deal with
our truth. So I think that Knockamore could take it
put uh sorry not uh l A Knight.
Speaker 3: Truth went in the US title.
Speaker 2: Before.
Speaker 1: There's a him being Knockamore accidentally, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Knockamore could beat l A Night. They do, they
chase is better than the championship thing, because I mean,
La Knight is going to be over, so he doesn't
have to have the belt. He could be chasing for it.
It could be a back and forth between them, and
La Knight will still have everything that he wants out
of that.
Speaker 1: For me, yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't think
they'll make him lose it, but you never know, just
because like that's been my problem so far. It's it's
like there's no there's like not many people for him
left to face. I know that AJ styles storyline went away,
but still he'd already faced AJ. So I feel like
the SmackDown like middle Card needs some more. Just call
up some medics to you guys, fire him up and
have it. Because now what he he versus on Bird
the other night, he's gonna first walking probably soon, and
then he'll versus Carlos again and then I don't know,
it just feel it feels like there's just not much
like he can't have. I imagine they're gonna run him
a logan pull back one more time. I don't know,
but all right, I suppose is number three for you?
Speaker 4: Well, I'll say I'll let David pick his job next.
Ok yeah, sure, because I have two picks after that.
Speaker 2: So okay, so I almost decided to steal Carmelo as
the jobber because black people.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 2: Allegedly, but I am. I am going to go with
a dirty Dom Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could like he.
Speaker 4: Does when I dropped him as my main guy as
when I started getting wins and matches on TV. So
I was mad, But yeah, I think that's a good,
good thick. But I am kind of mad because there's
there I have people. I'll say I have one, two, three, four, five,
six seven picks for and I have two picks. So
I I wanted you guys to pick one of those
people's I could decide because I want all these people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sorry, Dave, who was your pick again? Before
your drama pick with Dom? Who is it?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: I had, uh yeah, Knockamore. I'm just yeah Roman, Knockamora.
Now dirty Dom.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't. Okay, So I suppose you got your
two picks back to back, so decision time, you're gonna
have to it's up to you. We can't be the
tiebreaker for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for one of them, I'm gonna go
with me.
Speaker 1: Chin that's a heart well, I guess she does wrestle,
but that's a heart pick for your You're open for
good stuff with that US title.
Speaker 4: But I think I'm gonna balance it that out because
I have one more pick, and this one I don't
think you guys are thinking because they're so long way
away from the Roman stuff like that. But I'm gonna
go with the greatest of all time John Cena.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's you know what, That's not a bad pick
up to get right now. I'll laugh if they put
them on just like a full losing streak the whole time.
But you know, yeah, I didn't even think of Sina
because let's see, yeah, I guess. But the only word
for you is what if he just works the rumble
and that's a lot of promo and then he just
does chamber like there's a chance.
Speaker 4: One of those that's like it's like fifty. So I'm
okod with that, he if he wins the Rumble or
the Chamber and doesn't do any any manis between, that's
like triple the amount of points that anyone else gets me.
So I want to share that. Yeah, I wonder, And
he's gonna work like a tag where he runs and
I feel like I just wanted to get him before
the Rumble, just like so your picture.
Speaker 1: Is there a reason why you picked him over Punk?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 1: I imagine Punk's gonna have a similar run, be it Chamber, Raw,
Netflix Rumble.
Speaker 4: I don't know it was between them, but it was close.
I kind of wanted one of you guys to pick
either one of them so I could decide.
Speaker 3: But maybe next time you guys.
Speaker 4: I'll think of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought of Punk, but it's the same thing
of like somehow I think if it's Sena or Punk,
I think Sena's gonna wrestle more if I had to,
because Punk doesn't wrestle that much anymore.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, that was my same thought process. I thought
about Punk as well, but then I was like, he
may come back, he may do one or two big events,
but he's not going to be wrestling a lot. He's
gonna have three month builds to his matches or two
month builds, like it's not gonna be you're not gonna
see him on weekly TV.
Speaker 4: Made looking back at my list, there's one I wish
I could change now, but it's fine say.
Speaker 1: For the next time. Yeah yeah, was I gonna say?
Uh yeah? And I don't think Punk's winning Chamber or
Rumble unless they somehow hotshot the title onto him or
seth for Mania, but I don't think that's happening. And
uh yeah, I do say. I think if Sina goes
for a world title, whether it's Gun there or whether
it's Cody, I feel like it's better for him to
have win the Rumble because the Chamber then it's just
like you're gonna know who he's picking. I think the
Rumble would be fun to have, like that entry. Who's
Johnston not gonna pick for that? And again I still
think if it's not right, I guess we'll see. We'll
talk about rocking a bit. But yeah, so we got
Survivor series coming up. We'll see what happens there as
far as the draft goes. But let me pull up
some of the matches that are not uh is it technically?
I guess because some spoilers. This technically only three matches
announced for Survivor series. They're probably more, but right now
there's like, so Goother versus Damian Priesze. I think for me,
this is just they're gonna have another good match. I
thought that.
Speaker 2: Double points, baby, double points.
Speaker 1: There you go unless there is no cash, and damn it,
I was hoping to take you out. But I think
this is just for Gunther to get the clean win
on Damion. I think they're gonna have a hard fought battle.
They're probably gonna shake hands at the end, and you'll
say something like it might be street trash, but you
are a tough guy or whatever, like you'll like give
him respect. But I think that's it. I just expect
a good match and Goother to win clean. Anyone else
think any differently on that one?
Speaker 4: I agree. I think there's a chance of maybe another
Finn interference to continue to this goon third thinking that
like he can't beat people clean anymore, and that leads
to possibly a scene match at Mania where he thinks like,
oh maybe I can't beat this this guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, possibly, I wonder they never really did. They did
the bad Blood match, but I think everyone thought there
was gonna be more to it, and they haven't done.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 4: Damiens is good, like if you're kind of building it
a little bit with fin now in these backstage stuff.
Speaker 1: And Damien said he was done with Judgment Day and
then the next week he's wrestling dam So it's like,
I really don't know what the man's up to. But
what about you, David here and anything? Any hot takes
on this one?
Speaker 2: I no, I think it's gonna be a straight up,
hard hitting banger. I think there's a chance that they
could continue this Judgment Day stuff. I really hope they don't.
I'm kind of waiting for that part of it to
die down, but I mean there's always a chance with that.
But I just think it's gonna be just a straight up,
hard hitting all right, we're gonna show you what we
can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the Women's war Games. I don't have
all even Wikipedia doesn't even have the competitors here because again,
now we're gonna end up monitor sports. But it's not
a big deal. But who is on the side from
the boat I'm trying to find Wikipedia.
Speaker 4: Doesn't I can I can name them for witch ones.
The women, the women I can start with, so I
guess spoilers if you feel the people.
Speaker 3: Who haven't seen this.
Speaker 4: But the women's side is Bianca, jade Eo, Naomi and Rhea.
Speaker 1: I only such because I was watching SmackDown and I
think I missed last week's Ron just a highlights, but
I was watching, which I like Bailey's like, oh you
gotta watch out for you and everything that. But I'm
only such a random pick for war games. I'm surprised
she's there, but good for her, you know.
Speaker 4: And then the heelside is Naya, Raquel Live, Tiffany and Candace.
Speaker 1: Right, that's a very good for candas if that Candace
is a fun one to play.
Speaker 3: This is a speed Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still going with my heart prediction that the
Babyface women win it because Tiffany Cash is in a
Naya mid match and then she gets the fuck out
of that ring and then they're down a woman like that.
To me, that's the perfect scenario. Nya is hurt, she
pins her, it's five verses four they lose. I I
just think again, in a world where there's we've seen
so many creative cash ins with money of the banks
where I won't say starting run out, but there's not
as many as you can do, Like even Damienkshi and WrestleMania,
it's like, okay, it's like a version of the seth
one right where this is something completely this would be
a first time or this would make Tiffany's cash and
completely memorable, versus just onnest back down, you know, on
you know, on the rumble Wrestleming, Like even WrestleMania just
had a Damien. So I feel barring at being in
her hometown or something. I I'm I'm sticking with this.
The cash that happens here. I hope, I hope I
don't tease it not do it because I just and
I think the matchwak should be good. I think it's
all a bunch of good talent. But yeah, I think
the I think the babyfaced women get this.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, yeah, it's it's gonna have to be them.
I do like the intrigue though of Tiffy cashing in
in the middle of it. That actually sounds like it
could be a good thing. But this feels like, for
the most part, it feels more of a display of
the women that's gonna be in the upcoming US title HUT,
so it's like, hey, here here's a showing for them
as well. Build some intrigue with that. So I think
it will be a solid one. But there's not that
much build up to make it memorable other than the
chance of Nah getting cashed in on and then a
little bit more between Ria and Live Morgan.
Speaker 1: This is old school, like w in the two thousand
Survivor series, where it's like, well, we just got to
do a five on five. So here's just the most
random teams you'll see. Like if you look from two
thousand and four to two thousand and eight those Survivor
series tags, it's just so many random This is that.
Speaker 2: One with d X where uh DXA.
Speaker 1: Who was that? Yeah? My team? Yeah, So I think
you get it there, and then I don't know who
gets the pin combination, Like I'm trying to think, Like
I like, I guess if if the Internet gets its
way and they let's say they do Lee uh Leah
Ria and Live at Saturday Night's main event and that's
where we gets her belt back, I could see them
having Ria pin Live and they use that as a
story reason, like well she pinned the champ, so she
gets a title match, But I really, I really don't
know who would get like the pin. And actually I'll
take this back though. If there's no cash in, I
actually think the heel ladies will win and it'll be
like Naya getting the win because I feel like I'm
still top of the war games. I think the babies
are gonna win there, So I'll say that's what I'll
change my British Ye if there's a cash in, Bayface win.
If there's not, Heels get the win. Your finished.
Speaker 2: My only thing that does have me sort of excited
about this storyline wise is I want to see who
pins Bianca and or j Like, if either of them
is eliminated, who's the one who gets the pin?
Speaker 1: Because it's just one pin? Yeah, so I and I
don't think who if it's a baby Face is Unfortunately
Naomi would probably take that pin and then she always
takes the pin, so yeah, it's just it's just the one,
just the one pin, So it would be and maybe
we'll start to see I guess probably rumble will be
the cracks of Jade and Beyonca. I think unless they
want to bold, they're on.
Speaker 2: The opposite side in the tournament.
Speaker 1: So, but they've done that before. They did that with
Queen the Ring, Yeah, and everyone thought, all that is
what it's gonna be. So I wonder if they tease
it twice here. But I suppose what about you with
the women's war Games.
Speaker 4: I think the baby Faces are are gonna win here
because I feel just like the level in like KFA
power level of one team versus the other is like
it's kind of like it's kind of like last year
we had like the Judgment Day, like including Tom and
JD versus like Cody, Seth j Sammy and Randy or
and it's like, Okay, I think one side's gonna win
this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. And then is there any other rumor matches
the matches I'm not thinking about that is before we
get to the Men's war Game that is on the
card right now, because.
Speaker 2: Not I mean really possibly Cody Ko.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rumors are saying that for the main event, Saturday
Night's main event, which is I guess, like I guess,
I wonder could they do Randy and Kevin there? Maybe
if Randy's impossible because they never actually had a match
at Crown Jewel, they just they just fought they didn't
have any you know pins, so I wonder could he
do that, as like they've already done it too much
this year, but I wonder if they could do that,
and like Cody's the special guest referee or something like that,
but like, I feel like they love doing that. But uh,
I'll say that, I'll say Randy and Ko. But because
they usually like five cards, obviously the Warrior matches are longer.
But yeah, it is weird that two weeks away and
we only have the three matches. It's it's a little odd,
so yeeah. And then Punk should be there so he
should be doing something but I don't know. And then
we got the Men's War Games. So we're gonna talk
about two things here, so there's gonna spoils of who
in there, and we're also to talk about the bloodline stuff.
So I'll say it's just as everyone's predicted, since I
don't know. The day after WrestleMania and OG blood Line
versus Original blood Line or OLGI blood Line versus New
blood Line started because Roman won to one on one
match with Solo. He said no and he counted with
this the spoilers which we'll get into some of my
story and o'l sly one is official, and I feel like,
once that's official, I everone knew who that one was.
Bronson Reid has joined the new blood line, and then
on Rod they're going to be named Seth Rowlans as
the fifth member of the Old blood Line. So I'm
gonna rant a little bit here and then I'll give
it my prections. I think this has not been bad,
but I think all of it's been very rushed. And
I remember we talked about this in the discord with Jay.
For me, Jay had one conversation with his brother who
turned on him, cost him a championship all this stuff. Right,
had one like hey, I'm not good with you guys yet,
we'll see, and then the next week he's smiling at him,
so he'd forgiven right. And then Roman has neither apologized
to Jay, Jimmy or Sammy, but they're all just that's cool.
Like it literally feels like the Poplar Kid like ousted
them out of their house with a second. He's like
you can come back in. They're like, oh, thank god,
I hated it out here, like Sammy, especially because I
thought because I was the thing you said like, oh,
he might be the long term and I thought, oh, yeah,
that could be. And my other problem is how it's
all been incorporated. It's it's Solo talking cutting a promo,
and then it's Jay interrupting him, saying, hey, I don't
want any part of this. We're good, and then leaves.
And then Sammy's same thing, having no part of this,
but then come out because like, oh, I'm protecting Jay.
All these people that say they didn't want to be
back in the bloodline or be a part of it
then just don't come into their segments. It's not like
Solo went. It's always that person Jay or Sammy coming in,
and then Solo comes in and he costs him or
does something. You're like, oh, of course they'd go back
with Roman because these guys are assholes. But like with Jay,
when he said he wanted nothing to do with this,
why did it even come down and like shit talk
to so like it made zero sense. As far as
there's other ways have Solo be the this year or
even have him, I don't care, but it just it
feels the route they've taken with this is very odd.
Even the Sammy one where Jimmy and Jay and Roman
they go back. They've been family for years, so I
can kind of buy. Okay, I think Jay was a
little quick, but I can buy that. The Sammi thing,
they fucking handcuffed his best friend, They beat him in
front of his family. They beat Sammy front of his family,
like they like completely turned on him and embarrassed him,
and like the rumble thing, everything right, and it just
really felt very easy for them all to get back together.
So I just wish there was and I know they
didn't want to repeat it, but even the Sammy thing,
I wish there was like a build up to like
Survivors series, like is he gonna be there?
Speaker 2: Is he not?
Speaker 1: But it was it was literally one week of sam
like I'll never be in the bloodline, and then the
next week he's thrown out the one and it's the
same thing. I have. This is my problem too, is
I don't think this should have been five people. I
wish it was just the four verses four because I
think there's tons of story of Because when Seth said
Ham never team with Roman again, I'm like, that should
be it. They've tried this, they've broken them multiple times.
It should be the next time they team up. It's done,
and that to me is its own story. So for
Seth to just be teaming up with Roman again, especially
WrestleMania was already this year, it feels very quick, and
I just feel like there's tons of that could have
been its own story. Like I feel like the bloodline
is it's one separate story, and then Seth and Roman
his own separate story. You could pick up another time,
whether they're versiting each other, whether they do need a
team together. It feels like they're kind of just blowing
their load. And I just wonder if that's because it
feels very much like John Sena's last few years when
the first time they did Roman and Scene was like
at No Mercy, like just a random Everyone's like why
not SummerSlam or anything. Was just yeah, this October you're
get Roman and Scena and it's like that's odd, And
it was just because Okay, we're gonna have Scena verse,
knock Amore, we're gonna have versus Roman. They just started
giving him all like the top talent because he was
like on his way out. I don't know if Roman is,
but it just feels like they're doing all like the
Seth story the Bloodline story, so the stuff in it
is good. I like Sammy being I don't know what's
gonna happen after war Games, because I'm predicting the bay
Faces are gonna win, Like is the Bloodline just fully
together now? Like are they just always together? As Sammy there?
And then my last point is I think we'll get there.
But I said this in the discord last night. I
was complaining about it, like Kevin Owens is like petrified
about Cody team of Roman once, where Sammy is full on,
he's wearing the red, he's called himself Sammy USO. He's
thrown up the one like if anything, but he should
be attacking Sammy as well, like Sammy wasn't smacked in
the week before like with them, And it just feels
so odd that like Sammy hasn't even come up in
his story and it's so tied to Cody teamed with
the Bloodline. So if anything, if we had to have five,
I wish it was Cody on the original blood Line
because he's already done it save this f thing. I
think it's gonna be a really fun match. Obviously, I
think everyone wanted Rock and that didn't happen. I feel
like that was the dream scenario. Even if you couldn't
get sewn on Old blood Line, you just have you know,
the Old blood Line, Cody versus New blood Line and
the Rock. If they are doing Cody and Rock, you
kind of have some teases there. Our last episode, we
were talking about the Rock being back. Don't know why
the fuck he came back, and he was just in town.
Like I feel bad for the crowd because you feel like,
oh man, you're gonna see this big moment. But he literally,
like the people said the raw offers, they didn't even
talk about The Rock being there. It was it was
super super off, which I do got to bring up.
I was at Costco today and they have Hallday additions
for the Zoahs. They have pictures It's the Rock, the
Sanna and I had to take a picture of all
we're doing the give today. It's an home and so
I've liked the segments, even last night with Bronson. Actually
looks like he kind of fits with the bloodline. So
I would actually be down if he's like their version
of Sammy of like he's not family, but like he's
a badass, so we'll keep him around. So it's not
that the segments have been bad. They've been all good.
The Sammy Rome one being like, I think I love you.
I just think that they should have started this a
little earlier, and I think just some of the ways
they've gone Jay and s Sammy back in there. Even then,
Sammy's like, I won't join the bloodline un till you apologize.
Romans still never apologize. He's not said. All he said
is I'm sorry, I even waste my time with you.
Like it feels odd. At least Roman reigns. I think
he's a mooting like, oh, I'm very you know, I'm
I'm more respectful Sammy, Like there's last night where he
gave seeming like a head nod to go do like
a halluva dive and whatnot. Like he's like yeah, like
he's filling and everything. But so yeah, and I just
think they win. They they beat them in the six
man tag. Roman took the pin. I think you have
to have the Oji blood line.
Speaker 4: What do you think it's the over under on a
tsunami off the top of the cage.
Speaker 1: I saw, I said, I don't know if it was
you that Sheridan or the Rakishi thing going around where Okay, yeah, Raki,
she did that. I think it'll happen, but it has
to be on a table. I think to break Bronzeon's
fault because Bronson is a big dude now where he
should do it without a table, but at least the
table buckles a little bit. But I think I'll give
it to I'll say seventy five percent on the tsunami
off the cage.
Speaker 4: So I could say too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm they're gonna have to do a big spot
with Bronson. I mean, you don't put him in there
because honestly, it doesn't make sense except really to kind
of help further the feud with him and the last
participant on the og bloodline side, so between him and Seth, like,
that's really the only reason to have that going there
to keep their storyline going. So you have to put
him in there for a big spot. You have to
have that memorable moment no one else from other than
let's see Jacob Fatu doing something crazy like that. Those
are your two big spot givers.
Speaker 1: What do you think about do you think the New
Bloodline or Old Love Lions wedding David? And what have
you thought about the Blood Lions reunion story.
Speaker 2: Here, I'm going old bloodline. I'm hoping, praying, especially with
the Roman pickup, I'm going old blood line. My only
thing about everything that's been going on with them is
it is starting to give me uh in w O Phils,
It is starting to give me in Wo versus a
wolf pack like this, I've seen this well before, Like,
I need you guys to wrap this up before it
wears out. It's welcome. Do something with this soon, because
I'm not sure what your in your long term plan
is with this, and I'm not sure also how many
more people you're gonna bring in to dilute both teams.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's this match and then it's Roman
and Solo, and then I feel like that I guess
they're gonna do romanan Jacob too, because every every few
weeks they do that thing where they.
Speaker 4: See the rumor when when Roman was like coming back
for this whole storyline, is you wanted to do it
to put over Jacob at some point?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I heard feel floating that being wrestling. We
talked about that WrestleMania because the idea it is Quoty
versus Rock and Roman versus Jacob, which I was like,
is that big enough for Rome? But I guess if
it's the thing that Roman wants to, I could see it,
And if that happens, I actually think they'd have Jacob
beat Rome at Mania to give them like like to
fire them up. But I think that's I could see
Roman and Soul happening at like another Saturday Night's main event,
Like that's that December one. I could see that being
the main event there. Roman gets the win and then
they're all they're all on the rumble and then that's
why I said that. With the long term, I just
don't know. So what I could say is they go
for the title. Maybe we were talking about the discord.
Maybe it's Sammy and Kevin at Mania and they build that,
So I guess everyone's trajectory they kind of have. But
the same thing like if WrestleMania is Roman versus Jacob,
USO's going for tag Tiles and Sammy versus Kevin, are
they still like the bloodline together? Like is Sammy still
rock and the stuff?
Speaker 2: I don't know's two more members who are on the
way as well. So you've got Akalo who is signed,
and then you've got another one of the.
Speaker 4: And then that's gonna be the NXT bloodline division right.
Speaker 2: There, please please know.
Speaker 1: Or the if someone gets injured, we can call.
Speaker 2: I mean on the on the bloodline versus chase you.
Speaker 4: They did that like when the bloodline invaded NXT like
a few I think that was like two months ago
or like a month ago or something like that, and
that was pretty cool. Peopore saying like, that's when people
were like, because that was just the three without Solo
and they're like, well, they actually look cool here. But
I guess that's before people started liking Solo again in
this in this run now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Internet goes back and forth with Soul. I
will always say I think Solo is good. I think
people shot him way too much for a couple of
those matches where like I don't think they were that bad.
I think they just worked a different style. But like,
I think he can be good. I don't think he's
like top guy. I know, K's like I could see
him being Cody. I'm not.
Speaker 4: You see the thing that.
Speaker 1: Pair kids should never talk disrespectful about their parents or whatever.
It's like, oh, what are the usos too? What do
they do? But yeah, no, I don't. I don't think that.
But again I think I've said before like I see
a solid I see or US title run coming for
Solo next year where he has a good run and
has some maybe bangers and stuff, but s bumbs. What
do you think about the Bloodline so far? The past,
the present, of the future going on with them right now?
Speaker 4: I've liked this whole story so far, but I think
the thing for me, since I was really watching when
it sort of started, when it was like at its peak,
for me, I can't really critique like if I think
it makes sense or not, because I really didn't watch
that much of it, Like I've seen the recaps and
stuff the week to week of it all. But I
can see why people think it's it's rushed. But I've
been enjoying it and I think it's a fun storyline.
Speaker 1: What do you think happens after Survisors? Do they stay
the blood Line? Do they just they break up? Because
Jane and Sammy just wanted to come back for to
help with this war games and there are single people.
What do you do with ko eventually? Like what do
you do in the future stuff here?
Speaker 4: I think they'll be like the blood Line if they
If I don't know, I don't think they'll be like
coming out together at the start of every SmackDown, but
I think they'll still have like backstage segments and stuff
like that where they're just like talking.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is just so like Sammy's on
Sammy and g are both on Raw, which is fun.
Like it. We're definitely in that close to WrestleMania like
age where it doesn't matter what brand you are, because
like for weeks, Sammy and you have been there and
there's not been like, oh yeah, we're gonna send two
SmackDown guys to Raw. But yeah, and then I'm guessing
you would you would think the old blood line's winning. Yes, yeah,
I don't think anybody there's I because I just don't think.
I don't know. I see no positivity for them losing.
To me, it doesn't make sense. I do wonder what
they do with uh because we never talked about this.
When Seth came back, they have this weird segment where
J came out and Seph like like was not happy
to see J even though they were on the same
side during Wrestleman and endgame. Right, So like I am curious.
I guess it's the only way I had accepted. They
never would No, I won't say never, But Seth last
week gave the interviewers again, there's not many heels in
our company right now. We need some good, bad guys.
Speaker 3: He joins the new Bloodline, and I would.
Speaker 1: Love That's exactly what I'm pitching. That's the yeah.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: And then the deaf writers from AW come out and
they take O or they they seize war games.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Again, I've said this before. I wish Tony could work
together because the the magnitude of Mosley was even.
Speaker 4: Cutting up from the cage during the match and get
in there.
Speaker 1: Do you imagine like it would ever but imagine how
hype that would be. And then for like the next AW,
like the Bloodline show up and just fucking destroy the
entire roster, like it'd be so fucking.
Speaker 4: Cooling up Evil.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, and then you hooks Joy He's Hook's
throwing up the one and everything. No, like I would
kill for them to do like a two month talent
swamp and have Moxley back in debty just for two months,
just because like with this stuff, but the back to
the original point, that's the only way I would accept
the og bloodline and winning, And I think it would
be great if they were about to win and Seth
fucking stomped Roman and they got like that the heat there,
that would be great. So that's where I would fully
take back the Oh, why are Seth and Roman team together?
I just I just feel like they I don't know
if they're gonna run it back, but remember what they
did with Becky and Charlotte last year, where in real
life they were not friends anymore, but now they've they're
back to being friends and they use them in the
storyline where they had them. They're like pushing each other
and they hug and they're like okay, okay. Like I
feel like they're trying to run that back, and because
it was successful, and I think there is even if
you did a Shield re union of just Seth and Roman.
Fucking people always buy Shield shirts like those those shirts
sold like crazy. But like, I would love it if
Seth turned and then we could have like Seth and
Punk is Like Seth can be the heel there and
I would like that, and then maybe we could get
Seth away from some of the the he's toned down
the costumes a little bit, but he's still he's still
looking like a discount joker, don't.
Speaker 4: Wear a suit like like Solo is. He's out there
leaving them there. That's gonna be my photo shot for
for this episode on the no context the Gimmick sell
that on the on two K twenty four Universe moth.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give it a I would one hundred
percent want it, but a fifteen percent chance of it happening. Dude,
what do you think of Seth actually turning Roman in
this match, costing the blood line?
Speaker 2: Ah, I'm gonna go, Laura, I'm gonna say it's it's
probably a ten percent chance. I doubt that they would
do that. It doesn't make sense right now to do that.
I mean, to us, it makes sense because none of
none of Seth being in here makes sense. So if
you're gonna just cuck this whole thing up, then here's
one extra layer to it. But I don't think for
where they're trying to go with this. I think Seth
is going to just stick to him and Bronson and
go from there. And I think that they're not going
to do anything right now unless they are going to
use this as a time to debut more members of
the New Bloodline. They're not going to do anything to
take away the wind from Roman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they should be such good full circle medium
but none.
Speaker 4: You said I wanted to happen, but I don't think
it will happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just be so good at the chair shot
that happened, and like Roman, like imagine that Roman finally
and that could maybe make him like want to split
up the Bloodline again because he finally like trusts Seth
and then Seth turns on him again and he's, Okay,
I can't trust anybody like I can't other than the
wise Man. I can't trust my my cousins like antrust Sam.
And he's like goes to be like a lone wolf
for a little bit. What about people have predicted? Do
you think there's any chance because I'm smacked and like
he's the wise Man, Is there any chance Paul is
turn And you know, I'll include the rock here because
I've seen this theory where which is so dumb romans. Yeah.
Roman tries to call Paul Hyman, it says number out
of service. So this is what's so funny in the
wrestling world. Right, you're telling me that Paul Haman, his advisors,
wise Man, one of his good friends, got brutalized, fucking brutalized.
Like in storyline, right, he's been we haven't seen him
a month, so we're to assume he's injured, really hurt.
This is the first time Romans called him, it's the
first time he's checked on him, and that's why. Yeah,
and story he should turn on. But it's just so
funny in wrestling world. And then people are like, yeah,
but you know what his phone he does have. He
still has the Rocks phone. It's just like you're telling
me he didn't get a new phone for Rome. They
didn't talk. It's like classic wrestling stuff, right, if like
someone does something and like if they just watch the show,
they'd know, like, oh, my buddy turned, Like like when
they have Damian watching them on the right and we said,
oh when Finn turned, Like oh, that's a good thing. Like,
but in wrestling, it's always like the answers right there,
but they act like the show doesn't exist, like ww
is a show within a show, Like it's a world
within the world. It's not a real place, Like it's
fucking awful and it's just this thing where the same thing.
It's like, you're telling me he never watch checked on
Paul Haymen. This is the first time he's trying to
call him just number not in service. I just laugh
when I saw, like, okay, I just mesaged.
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, buddy, how's it going. He's like, how
the fuck do you think it's going?
Speaker 1: It's rocking ribs for mouths. But that's what I'm gonna say.
Is there any creates you guys think Paul Hayman turning
on the og bloodline working with the Rock You guys
think there's anything there that could happen.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no not. I think they're just keeping Paul
off for now because I I'm a feeling that if
it was a situation with Paul Hayman, he would pull
like Kevin No One's did a couple of months back
where something's going on, and he was like, I watched
the showback. I know exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: What about rock? Is there a Wild Rock appearance?
Speaker 2: Davin? Ah, let's see. So Red One is coming out soon,
so good we could get some. I think it depends
on how Red One opens up. If Red One opens
up low we're going to get a Rock appearance. If
red One opens up medium to expectations, then I think
he's just gonna sit and do stuff with that. But
if it opens up low and he's got to, you know,
get his name back out there in a different view
or have it so that you know, whenever you search
the Rock, you're not searching the Rocks movie just bombed.
You're seeing the Rock surprise return at Survivor series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a thing. Yeah, all right, so let's see here.
So we talked about the bloodline. We talked about Okay, yeah,
Saturday Night's main event that's rumored to be happening. While
it is happening, Yeah, that's the roommate event. Is Cody
versus Ko. I imagine Cody just beats them. And I
will say it's been a couple of times, but I
know there was this report of o W, he's really
happy with Cody, that he's like the main guy did.
But I will say there's still a little bit of
a like a Sena Punk twenty twelve to fourteen situation
or so to Yeah, no, he left in twenty thirteen,
twenty eleven to twenty thirteen situation, where since Roman's been back.
It's been like a handful of times a Crown Jewel,
maybe one other SmackDown where Cody has closed the show,
like even last night they have the women's main event,
but then Romans the last thing you see, So I
you know, I'm looking out for my boy. I know
he says he wants to be the quarterback and everything,
but like I'm telling you, when Roman's around, you're not
the quarterback still, Like I like, that's the why they
view it, and I hope that like even Ko and him,
just if they're not on the pay per view, who
knows what happens, right, it could be Kyle and Randy
and Saturday Nights Man events. Yeah, okay, that's big. It's back.
But it's like, I'm very curious to see what's gonna
happen with Cody and Roman with going forward with Raw
on Netflix. Like I do feel like you should maybe
separate them, especially because Cody's not like in the Bloodline stuff.
I understood then, and that's what I'm saying. I'm not
gonna count when Cody was with Roman. Of course they
closed lots of smackdowns together, but I'm saying when they
were when they're separated. Cody in this story is very
I feel like it's still second fiddle and it's all
blow the bloodline and stuff. So I think Cody and
Kao Saturday Nights Man event will be a good one.
I'm excited for Cato just like completely wrestle like a
madman and just like try to destroy him. And I'm
not sure what's gonna happen there, but uh yeah, and
then Sundays, I don't think there's anything else, all right,
and then there's the Woman's US Championship, So I don't
have whereas that. I have the Poe somewhere of the tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got it right here.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see what are the brackets?
Speaker 2: Show the bracket. Oh so we had that first triple
threat Bailey, candicell Ray and beefab there.
Speaker 4: Did pretty good there. I don't know the last singles
at like three years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see Bianca bel Air, Chelsea Green, and Blair
Davenport is in the second triple threat match. Guys, one
of that, I think, yep, uh, I have a theory
of where we're going with this. J Gargill, Meechen and
Piper Niven and the third one, hoping each I think
it's gonna be Jade uh and then Naomi, Tiffy Stratton
and Electro Lopez and the final triple and I'm thinking
it's Naomi. So I'm thinking it's gonna be Bailey, Bianca,
Jade and Naomi. And that's when you're going to have
that tension of who's going to go on to the
finals between I don't think Jade and are going to.
Speaker 4: Meet in the NAOI as the final I can see yes, but.
Speaker 2: They can use that to kind of set off a
little bit of that tension between Bianca and Jade. But
they never face in the finals. They both lose for
whatever reason beforehand. Especially since they're also the women's Tag champions.
You can have somebody who's going for the Women's Tag
champion cost them in order to get a match with them,
So you have many ways that you can make them lose.
But I think having them in the final four is
gonna be what does it? But I think that they're
gonna give Bailey the championship at the end.
Speaker 1: Really, Okay, I like two because even on SmackDown, they
did a thing with all four of them, right, because
they're in this situation where Naomi's friends with Bailey and
Sasha slash money, but then she's friends with Jade and Bianca,
So I like that she's gonna stuck in the middle.
Is not gonna be the storyline. But I just mean,
like in real world, we know, okay, those three are
really tight, so that's good. Yeah. I didn't think about
that because I thought you could have Nail or Tiffany
and Jade and Jade beat Tiffany because Tiffany, I think
is a good enough worker to carry a good match.
But but then like, is Naomi gonna beat Jade? Like,
how are they gonna do that? Because last time Jade,
how'd she lost? Like wasn't it like a d.
Speaker 4: Q or counting? Yeah, something like Jade's daughter was in
the front row and I was like yelling at her
and then Jade just like hit her with a chair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So how do you go to Jade?
Speaker 2: Luke?
Speaker 1: Because I I think Naomi should win this thing. I
want to be somebody because Bailey has already been like
the first women's champion. You can argue she's gonna do
the Cody Rhodes T and T championship thing where you
have a main eventor and that's elevating the title. But unfortunately,
I don't think Naomi's winning one of those world titles
anytime soon. But I think they should give her some
first and actually show like, hey, she can't be the
top of the car for the women, but she could
be like that second top and she can be like
a workhorse. So I'm hoping Naomi actually does get it.
But how does she? Yeah, how does she be Jade?
Speaker 2: That's I said, it's gonna be something crazy, Like I
feel like someone who is wanting a shot at the
Women's tag team champions will come through and mess things
up in that match or just some way. I don't
think Jade is gonna straight up eat a pinfall. There's
going to be something in there. Even if it is
a situation where Naomi wins that first match and then
Tiffy comes back in her match with Jade and you know,
knocks out Naomi as you know you took me out,
I'm gonna take you out, but that gives Naomi the
win by disqualification.
Speaker 1: Or even then, they haven't done the because I was
behind them wrong. They haven't done the live raquel take
title match, right, or is that happening this week on Raw.
Speaker 4: They already they did it this week.
Speaker 1: Oh I missed it. How was that? Was that alright?
Speaker 4: Or was that it ended with like everyone running out
like it was like Nia then Tiffany, then Naomi, then
Candace then Neo and like they just like the REP
didn't throw it out. They were all just like fighting
around at ringside, and then I think they gave like
I think Bianca gave Tiffany the KOD and that's how
it ended.
Speaker 1: Oh so that oh no.
Speaker 4: Gave Oh wait, now I'm confusing myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's because there I saw there doing a live
Raquel one versus those two, and I wasn't.
Speaker 4: Sure it was. Yeah, it was Bianca and Jade defeat
live Morgan Quel Rodrigues.
Speaker 3: That was this week.
Speaker 1: Okay, who took the pin on that?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: I assume?
Speaker 4: Oh wait it was live? Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 1: I think we live Yeah, oh jesuise, let me check justice. Yeah, okay,
because I was, I was curious bout that one, but yeah,
I just for the Raw was Business week, So yeah,
I guess worst case you could do like a Jade
rolls her up, or if you want to do the
tensions I'd love for some reason if like Bianca was
at ringside or at commentary supporting them both, but in
a backwards way does kind of distract or cost Jade
the match, and that maybe starts Jade to think like, hey,
I don't uh think I need you anymore. I don't
know if this is working out anymore. So uh, but yeah,
they gotta get away, gotta get around that some way.
So okay, So David, do you think Bailey, I'm I'm
picking Naomi. I know your heart, says Mechin. Do you
actually think Michen is gonna get it?
Speaker 4: Or I think I think there's a chance between Naoi and.
Speaker 1: Too Yeah I could get it. And then for Cody
versus Koe, do you guys have any theories, predictions, or
thoughts on that for Saturday it's main of any excite
for it? Or And have you liked the Kevin's storyline
so far? I'm enjoying it. I like him in his
home videos and he's pile driving Randy warton stuff. I
like what they're doing with it so far because I
think there should be a couple of next week. I
was gonna say I would like it to main event,
but I doubt it will. I think they'll do another
Blood Games, like you know, Gang Wars segment to end it.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the Cody kaosuff has been good from the
initial setup. I like how they set it up. I
like how it's been that whole like you can stop
and take perspective and go, you know, Kevin, Kevin's got
some points here. Yeah, uh type deal. So it's been good.
And then I just think that those two together are
just gonna have an all out great match. They're gonna
go balls to the.
Speaker 1: Wall especially something. Yeah, I think that's what's last time.
I think they did a great job with the story
of him holding back, but I think Kevin with this,
I think, uh, it could end up being Cody's best
match of the rain so far.
Speaker 2: I really think this isn't gonna be some O three
crossroads we'll call it today. This is gonna be a
hard fault like I'm having to crawl over to the
type deals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a row the pin to be on really okay,
So I wonder if that could be like a on
the rod just random challenge or something, because I feel
like Raquel would. I feel like, if you have no plans,
you'd have Raquel take that pin because like every week
everyone talks about how Raquel is the most Like I
feel bad, like meaning this wrestler in the world. Last
time they did that was like the Indy and now
fucking Indy got released, so that that sucks. But like
her account, it is just like and I don't agree
to that point. I agree there's some stuff that she
definitely needs to approve on, but yeah, because like I
feel like Raquel and Ree are going to probably do
like a one off because before Rio got hurt, she
was doing like did they did the whole like NXT
backstory promo, Like you've always thought this and you know
bad mouth here, so that supped youth o Ko and Cody.
Any How's how's Randy involved this? He you know accident.
Speaker 4: I didn't really know because I was thinking like, yeah,
he was gonna get taken out by Ko at Crown Jewel,
like if they actually had a match, and that's what
would take him out for like a long time, but
not really know how he fits into it. So I'll
have to see how it plays out. Yeah, but I
am excited for Cody versus Ko. I wasn't like the
biggest fan of the one of the match they had
at Bash in Berlin. I know some people really loved it, uh,
but this one is gonna be really good with Kao
as the heel here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again with the Ranny thing, I just feel
like for me, maybe it just was gonna be a
good salesman because I was like, I didn't sound like
it's anytime soon. But I feel like the whole thing
Randy said to start this program is like this, this
thing with the bloodline is not a problem till becomes
like a problem for him. And Randy's the only one
that's been getting okay. So I guess Cody got attacked
by a bus. Cool, but Randy's the one that's taken
all the damage in this storyline. He's being squashed like
like Ken was jumping off of stuff on him. He's
doing pile drivers and he's like injuring his neck like
Cody's gotten none of this. And yeah, Cody's there to
stand up for his friend, but there's only certain times.
So I wonder I don't know what how he's how
they're gonna do it, and again I think it does.
I wonder if they're just doing the Randy stuff too.
Is like a in case the Rock doesn't come, because
there's always like even last year, right, it was like
a game time thing. It was like the plan was
Cody and Roman and then Rock's like, well, you know,
I think I can make Wrestlemanta this year. It's the
same thing, like and I know, Dave, since we did
the show Melts, we got a bunch of shit. I said,
all Rock's up, he's up booked, and then Rocking like,
oh I don't. I don't know about that, brother. But
like Rock easily could just be like, yeah, I can't
do it. Sorry, Like he's done that many times before.
Like remember when a couple of years ago, David, they're
gonna do Rock and Triple H again, and like two
years in a row, he's like, yeah, I'm I'm gonna
be there, and then it didn't happen. So that's the
thing where.
Speaker 4: Hotly, according to the Rock is gonna be him versus
Roman at WrestleMania thirty nine and it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing where there's like many times where
Rock will just go away and that's fine. Do what
you gotta do. Make Red two, you know, get those
water bottles and everything drop some za's to the new flavors.
Speaker 4: But maybe yeah, So that's where I wonder if the
Randy were and stuff there right now, just planny of
like a plan B.
Speaker 1: Because I think that's an easy pivot, right, that's like
a I think they could get enough choose for it
to be a main event of one the nights, you know,
because I feel like it's like good they're in somebody,
even though I still feel good there could like easily
lose it in the chamber somehow, you know, like they
could do that where he like takes a pin. But
there's lots of shenanigans around, so I don't know. But
anything else WW specifically related to the next coming up
a little bit, anything events before we get into the theme
songs in full gear.
Speaker 4: I guess just a little. I guess it's still way ahead.
But since they announced they're they're gonna announce like a
second Saturday Night's main event, like before the Rumble, I
think a lot of these matches that would usually end
up like on the Raw before a PLI or the
SmackDown before p are gonna end up like on this
Saturday Night's main event, like the week before the Rumble.
So like on a bigger stage, but still they won't
put it on the on the main show.
Speaker 1: I agree, and I think that's a better out. It
makes it feel bigger, and it is one of these
things sometimes, like it's kind of crazy that they did
the Sammy Guns their Raw match or the World Time
Match on Raw, like that could have been. I know
people were all over Triple Ah for Sammy's comments like oh,
there's too much on the show, but I think they
could have held it off to another pav or Saturday
Nights MA event, So like yeah, like even Roman solo,
maybe that's too big, but you do that like Braun
defending his title.
Speaker 4: I feel like this one is definitely gonna be a
big one just because they want to show that. And
that's probably like the most viewers they'll have on on
a show all year. That's not a gas on NBC too,
just like the.
Speaker 1: Channel and the last time they brought it back or
the resume in twenty three, same thing was like a
big deal when they did the two main events versus
each old and they had like Stone Cold and JBL
and like a beer thing or I don't know, but
like they I hope they keep that energy up because
that's always happens to w They make the first couple
ones big and they're like, oh right, we got Saturay Nights.
It's like fucking like what belt whatever? Aw yeah the
belts right. It's like that where before it's a go
huge man, it's like ah, now it's just like.
Speaker 4: Who should Orange Elimina R titles?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's kind of what I feel like this
the pre Rumble Saturday Nights main event could be. It
could be a chance to get out your title matches
and then have the Royal Rumble focus on the two
Rumble matches, so then you can include some people who
are champions in the Rumble without making it so obvious
what's going on in the Rumble.
Speaker 1: M hm. I was gonna ask if we talked about
him in the draft too. There was all which you know,
I'm not going now. So I'm a little happy about
because I was so bummed when that original rumor of
Gunther and Punk was happening in Vancouver like four hours
from me. I was like, you gotta be fucking kid
Like Bloodline, that would have been of course cool to see,
but like Punk and gun there are like, man, I
mean missing that but like, is that Do we think
that's a rumble? Like you know, title match? Now, do
we think that's maybe off the books? Like? Ohso I
think at some point we'll get Gunther and Punk, But
do we get that in the foreseeable do we get that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: And I'll say WrestleMania season, That's what I'll say.
Speaker 4: I think, so, yeah, you have Yeah, you have started
saying event, you have the Rumble, you have the other
Saturday night event, you have raw Netflix premiere.
Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, like I I that's when I expect
them to just make it fully like a pay per view,
and they should, Like I think I can't remember what
the latest rumor was with Sina. It sounded like, oh no,
it was the punk stuff, right. I think a boot
said like the plants were punk to do a lot
of tags. I think maybe you'll get that. I still
think it's a mistake that I wish they would just
do Punk and Sina. I think that's such a huge
selling point, like the final time and it doesn't really
matter who wins or loses that they'll be completely fine.
But yeah, you could do Punk versus Gunther on that show. Really,
But I I I'm still gonna put my money and
they save it for the Rumble, and.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I think they're gonna have a title change
on the first round Flix. I don't know who, but
a title change.
Speaker 2: I think Punk. There's definitely Rumble, And because I think
if you're not gonna have either of those the way
that the last two rumbles have gone, if either of
those aren't winning the Rumble, you don't put them in
the Rumble. Yeah, have them do a standalone title match.
No matter who wins, you're gonna send fifty percent of
the crowd home happy. People love going through, people love Punk,
you know. So it's gonna be a good match. But
if they're just gonna be in there to be towards
the end again and not win, you're gonna have twenty
fifteen on your hands again.
Speaker 1: Unless though, unless there's you have I don't know for sure,
but let's say you got Sena in the match, you
got Rock in the match. That is a reason to
put Punk in there, because, like you think about those
moments of like imagine everyone's floored and it's Punk and
Rock staring surely down. Because I don't think they'll do
I think they'll do Punk and sina I don't think
you're gonna get punk and rock again in the ring.
Speaker 2: No, Rock's hands aren't large enough to box with God. Yeah,
he doesn't want nothing from the punker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's where you could do a mini like
moment there, right and have that there I want And
I still wonder too, like if there would be a
chance if Punk would beat gnther. I don't think so,
but I still feel like they. I there's a part
of me it that feels like Triple Ah is so
stubborn in a good way sometimes where last year he
wanted seth punk world title made event, and it's like
you could, you could do it, like you could even
like I still think people would accept Guther versus Sina
at Mania with no title, like if it was just
like a you know, guy trying to knock off a legend.
They already did with Theory and Solo and that was fine.
Like Guther is definitely gonna give you a better Scena match,
And I think, like that's an Aura match right there,
scenea taking those chops for fifteen minutes, Like that's gonna
be something that he hits in a and it's over.
But I'm gonna say there's still chance with if Punk
and Gunther happens at Rumble. I think there's a chance
they really want to put that title on Punk, though
that's for too much. That's if they put the title
on Punk. He never wrestles until WrestleMania.
Speaker 4: That's my relation.
Speaker 1: He is promo city Like there's nothing like, Yeah, I'm
just curious what they're gonna because I think Seth and
Punk's happening. It's just a question do they want the
main event or not? And I feel like sef like,
I'm fine if it they do main event, Like what
like if they get the tile back on because Seth
did all so much shit last year for them and
everything destroyed his knee, Like you know, I don't know.
I'm that's why as you guys have Punk Gun there happens,
who's winning, I'm gonna I'm gonna say hot take. I'm
gonna I don't even want to say Punk, but I'm
gonna be a controrier. I'm gonna say they're gonna put
it on Punk. They're gonna give him a two month run,
and they see those ratings every time he's on Raw
It fucking pops they know it. So I'm gonna say
Punk's gonna be gun their rumble. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I can see that. I could see Punk be gunned
rumble and then he headlines one of the Knights of WrestleMania.
You can lose it. Then gets fine, he's got he's
got his headline. You crown somebody New, even if it
is Gun there getting it back in the main event
of one of those nights of WrestleMania. But you still
you have that moment.
Speaker 1: What if it's Seth though, as you said, someone new.
What if it's just him Seth just beating Punk for
the title, because that's not matched. There's I'm sorry, there's
no way Triple Aho's boy is taking the three count
to Punk. In my opinion, there's no way they're all
good now by Gunsy guy who owns But you know,
Tribach the whole time has been like, yeah, and Seth
over Punk, Like, I'll allow.
Speaker 2: It because I liked Seth's World Heavyweight title run. I
absolutely loved his World heavyweight title run. He like that
was since his architect days, that has been his one
of his best runs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe they just make him a transitional champion too,
because it's like he could have for a month. Maybe hey,
maybe that's who Sina beats. He beats Seth rawlins they
run back the twenty fifteen feud, and you know because
if like Scenehi were to beat Seth, like Seth's not
gonna get hurt by it, right, It's like, okay, whatever,
but what about us bobs?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: If punkin Gunther happens, who's taking it?
Speaker 4: If punkin Gunther happens, I think Punk could win. And
I also I agree if if if after that point,
Punk and Seth happens and Seth is win again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no there's I just could not imagine everything
set does for the company. Punk's left and night one
and then you're gonna add a conavirus. You're, oh, I'm
gonna pass out right, like no, no, no, Like you're tapping,
You're tapping fast, like the second he puts on You're
like you're and he's like, I guess I'm gonna become
Tyler Black and aw so all right, let's do these.
Let's do these.
Speaker 4: We didn't really talk about Becky supposedly coming back.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we talked about a little bit. I still
think I think, Yeah, I just don't know what good
for her. I'd be big for Raw like Netflix, and
I think they gotta make that show. I guess that
My prediction is she gets in like a because if
Bianca and Jade are split up, they have to do
something with those take titles because they're always in fucking
life support. So that's that's my pitch, is Becky and
Lyra making a team eventually can split them off too.
But I just I guess you could do some triple
threats right like you have like Charlotte, Tiffany and Becky,
or like you could always do. It would make lots
of storyline sense of doing Ria, Becky and Live because
Becky was intertwined in the beginning of that story right
of that's who Live beat and then Becky never beat Rhea,
so she could have that chip on her shoulder. So
I actually could see them doing Ria, Becky and Live
and Riha getting that's the final win. Because again, as
I've mentioned why people think that feud's gonna be over,
Rhea's still not gone to do the fucking what is
it called again her pump panel slam the rip tie.
She's not done at a dominan. I'm telling you that
is the pop So that's why this feud is not
over until she riptides the Dirty Dom. So yeah, I
guess you could do that. Do you have any fancy
booking espos for Becky turns on seth Helps Punk, Winter, WrestleMania,
kiss over his body. They're like, no, no, no, people are gonna.
Speaker 4: Love it, and that's after that, that's what gets them
to tap out. Yeah, yeah, uh no. I think I'm
just excited for her to to come back. I think
it's like some I think it's gonna be good for
raw to just have her back and just be able
to work with anyone pretty much and put her with anyone,
and that'll be a good feud. So yeah, I do.
I do see the tag team idea. I think that
could be good. But then also, like Triple H, I
don't think he books these tag team breakup stuff for
like a long while. But I did mention this somewhere.
It wasn't on here, it was on Twitter. I was
talking to someone and there I was thinking, like if
they're doing because I'm assuming already that next year it's
gonna be clashed at the Castle Ireland. Could you have
like lyra versus Becky there.
Speaker 1: Break breakup and somehow or Liary gets the title. I
don't know. You always got money in the bank, right,
so that could be away there. But yeah, I could
see them doing something there, even if it's not the
main you I could see them doing like the mid
card match right of it some even if it's just
like a grudge match. So yeah, what about you, Dave?
You got ideas for Becky when she comes back?
Speaker 2: Well, originally I just want to have her back, but
now that you mentioned her turning on Seth, I kind
of want to see. I want to see a j
Lee Daniel Brian the kiss before the match and then
he turns around right into a GTS boom, one tree.
It's done.
Speaker 4: So that's the main event of wrestling.
Speaker 2: The internet would explow.
Speaker 4: You you have punkin and no you have seen it,
and Guth goes with Comde for like forty five minutes,
and everyone's like, wow, how long is Punk versus Seth
gonna be?
Speaker 3: This is It's so later already.
Speaker 1: I will say part of my Punk prediction is not
the Seth being turned on by back anything. I still
think I hope the money is Seth and Becky versus
AJ and punk. I hope that's another thing down the line.
I think there's aj Lee again. Hopefully she's just actually healthy,
but she's sitting on just like bags and bags of
return money and matchups. There's so much for her to do.
But I actually ly think we might not get it.
I think that might be a pipe.
Speaker 2: You know, if they weren't gonna put them on different shows.
I would love for her to return at the same
time that Charlotte does, because you know, that would just
be a big money, just banger match. They're gonna draw
money people want to see that steal.
Speaker 1: Or all of them as that they could be the tea.
They've never done the taketow so they could do it
too in its power trip and just like even if
they were heels, imagine if they were just like running
like Triple H Austin oh One, just running rough shot
of the roster. I'd fucking love that. That would be awesome.
That'd be really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that that would be what I'd want for Becky, Like,
if you're bringing her back, you're taking away from her
kid putting back in the road. I want see her
every week in a shining spot.
Speaker 1: It's probably her choice sounds like she's like a talk
like they're taking her away. Sorry, sorry, Rue, I hope
you enjoyed your time with your mom, but it's over.
Speaker 4: We met home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's gonna go see him Punk now WrestleMania. Good
luck man, all right? Top ten themes as pops will
start with you give me some all mentions in your
top ten and o'tee? Are is your top ten? Uh
like in a particular order or.
Speaker 3: Is it just yeah?
Speaker 4: I can, I can, I can? Well, no, I start
having in particular order, but they're all pretty close for some.
For some honorable mentions here, I'll go, uh. I have
mac Militant, which is Teddy Lungs These Yeah, yeah, that's
a banger I have. This one is the one that
was like I actually really like. This one is just
Spotlight by Fozzy. This is the Learning Trees theme song.
How do you use this right now? Because if you
listen to the lyrics, it's like a very delusional heel
theme song, like he's saying like like he's the light
and like he's gonna save everyone and stuff like that.
I've Taken It All, which is solo Seco as a
theme song.
Speaker 1: That's a banger. I remember, I remember that plays and
Gwen was like, why are you singing that song? He
don't like him, he's a bad I'm like, yeah, we don't,
but like it's a good song. It's a good Oh yeah,
it's a good gym one. I put it on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I have a Generation of Jade, which is cor Jade's
current theme song, which I think is really good because
her original one was like a very uh it's like
it feels very much like a Tony Hawk type soundtrack song,
like a skateboarding song. And then the heel version is
like a metal version of it, which I think is
really good one. And then the other two these are
very close to being like my number ten pick, but
they're pretty much tied, and I didn't put either of
them in my top ten, which as I walk alone,
Batista and metal ingis for edge. Yeah, those are very close.
But yeah, those are my honorable mentions. I don't know
if you guys had.
Speaker 1: Some, yeah I caught you.
Speaker 2: I will say I've got some. Uh, I've got four. Uh.
So here's the thing that, like all of mine aren't
just w W well when it comes to my honorable mentions,
that my main ones are, but my honorable mentions I
decided to dip outside. So honorable mention number one just
because to this day it just gives me great memories
of a couple of years ago. Glorious Bobby Rude. The
image of him coming down in the entire arena singing
it like that was some peak stuff. Aj Styles, TNA
Ready to Fly, Slash Evil Ways. Yeah, when he comes
out with Evil Ways and he's got the hood down,
then he pops it up to rate it. That was
just great. Okatas theme music from New Japan with the
rain Maker and you can hear the money coming down.
I mean, his entrances with that was always great. And
my final honorable mention is because this song, even before
I got into wrestling, I always loved this song. It
just makes me smile for some unknown reason. But final
Countdown so Daniel Briant and so when he uses it now,
it just it gives it that big fight feel. So
those are my honorable mentions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think, what is it? There's one I
forgot my honorable mentions, but I got Sena's in there.
I didn't put it in my top ten, but like
you know, as a classic, I got the original Y
two Jay Jericho want I like that. I do got
Nackamoras because obviously Knackamora he's been on a row, but
when that music had at first as out great Batista
as well, and then the two that I go in
there that are just like themes No music, the Stone
Cold and the kurd Angles. I don't know why Kurts especially,
I'll hum that to myself constantly, like in my life,
just like just like I picture Kurt when he's doing
that thing and he's like like he jumps in the
middle of the ring and yeah, Stone Cold specifically, I'm
a fan of it. I know lots of people aren't, but
I loved the Disturbed version. I love the Disturbed Heel one.
But yeah, there's quite a bit other ones. It was
a hard list to make, but uh yeah, I'm happy
enough with my lists.
Speaker 4: Also another honorable mention just to this whole. I love
the WWF Aggression album with like the covers, just like
honorable mention to like all.
Speaker 3: Those songs because I listened to it as a ton Do.
Speaker 2: You have those albums?
Speaker 1: And did you ever? I don't know if Dave remembers
what it is, but I suppose have you seen the
album in three four where they had a bunch of
wrestlers sing oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, like they's the one I have on my place.
Speaker 3: I have like the Ray Mysterio one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fuck, I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 4: I can look at a.
Speaker 1: Oh across the Border. Yeah, he's like Mexico and then
he just ramblings like Guanda, like he was just say
my favorite two is because some of them had them
for themes for a bit. Booker t had the one
two three can You dig It? And like Lost Them.
Speaker 4: Had the WF Aggression ones. There's some you you can
look it up on YouTube. Some people actually use them
for like a little bit. It's very grainy footage. I
think like DX actually used the run DMX.
Speaker 1: For like a couple of then yeah, and then.
Speaker 4: The Rock reused the the his version of it too, And.
Speaker 1: I think there's on one of those albums. Jericho had
like the Saliva King of the World song, and I
think that he used it like for a show or
two and then because he used to call himself the
King of the World. But then they dropped it just
went back to the Y two J.
Speaker 4: So the one where they sing their themes are just
the album just called WW originals.
Speaker 1: Right originals, that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that was a good one because it had
Kurt Engles.
Speaker 1: I don't suck on there, right, Yes, that was a
good one.
Speaker 4: Basic is on that.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was full album, you know, but which I
own basically to the whole album too. It's so good. Yeah,
I own somewhere. Yeah based only know it's is really
good theme too. But you know, it's not like a
great thing to bring up, but like it sucks. But
like I fucking love Ben Wat's theme back in the day,
like arl a piece like that. Fuck, it was such
a banger and it had like a good entrance theme
where it has them coming out, but then after the
match you have like emotional beats to it. Oh man,
So all right, who do you uh? I suppose to
give us your list? You can just give us the
full list and we'll go person, person.
Speaker 4: Let's go here. At number ten, I've I fell, which
is Darby Allen's.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like that.
Speaker 4: On uh At number nine voices Randy or and.
Speaker 1: But what's the other burned my light? I love that's
the honorable mention me. I brock the ship up, burned
my anytime in four when I had like a creator
wrestler in those games, I was giving him burning my light. Sorry, Randy,
it's a banger. You're wrong, You're wrong, Okay.
Speaker 4: Then I have I guess it would be number eight,
just the d Generation X theme. It's just really good.
H After that, I have love Feury, Passion energy, Lita's theme.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really good. Uh. They have sexy boy Shawn
Michaels up there.
Speaker 1: It's a good one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Then this would be number five Stone Cold Disturbed theme
and number.
Speaker 1: Final I love it. Yeah, I love that one.
Speaker 4: Number four, This is all these four I love but
the nw A wolf Pack theme.
Speaker 3: So then number three rolling Limp Biscuit.
Speaker 1: I respect on that. That's good, especially the entrance as
we go out of it.
Speaker 3: Too, the WrestleMania entrance.
Speaker 4: The line entrance is so good. Number two Cult of Personality,
and then number one at the time is now Johnson nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect it. That's good. Picks, all right, David,
what do you go for your ten?
Speaker 2: All right? Number ten is a knock him are, but
specifically when he has the violin entrance.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's one.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Number nine is the Undertaker's theme because it's just's so iconic,
like you knew it was coming. Number eight is the
Hardy Boys because as growing up I liked him and
then when they returned at WrestleMania and Orlando, the pop
that I had. I was like literally on the phone
with the girl that I was dating at the time,
and I remember talking to her. I'm like, yeah, just
sitting here watching wrestle Mania and then like I heard
the music. Kid, I was like, I gotta go. She's
texting me like is everything all right. I'm like, Hardy
Boys just returning. She's like the books. I'm like, you
don't get it.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Number seven is a Cody's thing Kingdom because just that
feeling of the crowd with the woes like it's a
good thing.
Speaker 4: Allowed an honorable mention to Smoking Mirrors, like the second
version of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had a couple of yeah, because you got
the you're talking like the darker one right now.
Speaker 4: No, there's there's like one that's called Smoking Mirrors V. Two,
which is just like a remix. It's when he had
like the white oh white gear and the icye title
and stuff. It's just like a different it's like a
sped up version of the but yeah, the when he's
the other one's just it's called like smoking mirrors ugly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one where it's all slow.
Speaker 1: There's technically three versions because.
Speaker 3: They're the remix and then the dark one.
Speaker 2: The dark one is when he had the mask on.
Speaker 1: Ye, that version when he has the whole white and
he was like back to like off the mask. That
was a classic, like gym workout playlist.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Number six is uh seem punk because I mean you
hear that opening riff on like of cults of personality,
and you just get hype, like you know it's coming,
You get hype.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Number five is Goldberg because that is just I mean,
it's iconic and you hear it and you start envisioning
the security to knocking on the locker room door, the
slow walkout, everything else over giving themselves and that would
explain a lot about current Goldberg. Now, remembering all.
Speaker 1: This, I don't belie, Just do just do it, Bill,
it's fun.
Speaker 2: So number four is Edges Meddlingers. Again. You hear the
you think you know me, and you just get pumped.
I have the image of him at WrestleMania when he's
doing it in front of Trump can Field, Like you
see the whole sky lit up behind him as he's
doing it, Like that's just awesome. Number three, Uh John Cena,
Like it's just it's iconic at this point. It's something
that the casual wrestling fan you play it and they're like,
that's John Cena.
Speaker 3: Try the first theme I knew.
Speaker 4: I remember when I was a kid, like in elementary school,
there was like we'd always download like extensions on Chrome
just like get like weird stuff on our school computers,
and one of them was like a soundboard, and I
would just spam that John Cena the at school on
my computer.
Speaker 2: Uh. Number two is the axious theme I've again. I'm
middle school walking around doing the DX crop chop. It
was at one point my music on my Space for
all of us old enough to know what that is, Like,
it's just it's one of those things like you hear
it the way that like they overlayed at the time,
Like for me, that was so groundbreaking, how they overlate
the sound waves with the crowd pop and everything else,
like that was just nice.
Speaker 4: All the live shows, like if you're in the crowd.
They do the DX.
Speaker 2: And number one is Stone Cold Steve Austin because that
glass breaks and you are just ready to go. And
if anything reinforced that for me, it was him versus
Kevin Owens again. Glass breaks and you just everyone eighteen TC.
You're losing your shit. You're like, this is it? That
Stone Cold. I remember every wrestle Mania I've watched him
walk out on. Just that entire feeling of that glass
breaking in him coming out is well forever as a
wrestling fan, live in my mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, And you guys almost convinced me to put
up there, but I'm you know, but it's it's good,
like the glass break everything. No, it's good stuff. So
all right, it's the same thing kind of like David,
I gotta haven Undertaker's theme in there to be a
little bit different because I like the classic like slow
walk up, but the Ministry theme, man, I love they
go hard like like they're just like in the middle
of the song, it's like it gets very big. So
I'm a big fan that Taker, you know, was my
favorite wrestler for years. I got that number nine I
no Norma will mentions and No One top tens. But
for me, triple h once moter it hits time to
play a game, man, I get fucking I'm ready to go.
And it's like even when I saw a SmackDown live
a couple he was there and I've given him a share
of because I'm always like, why does he need to
come up for all the stuff? And I like to
be out there, but every time big event reach is there, right,
But when you're live and that guitar riff hits, you're like, oh,
I guess built the business pick cup and just all
like austme match with the spit and everything. It's like
an iconic thing.
Speaker 4: So would like the King of King's theme too.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good one. Yeah, so Motorhead Show, Demotoray,
good stuff. Yeah. I also got Sean on there because
sexy Boy, it's just that's a classic, you know, hummed
to myself and then just a round it all out
at seven there DX as well, because I and same thing.
I they're kind of in there, but I didn't have
like a for sure order of then made the few
top ones. But that's ten nine wait sorry, ten nine eight,
so okay, yeah, okay, so number six I'm putting in
some I didn't know. Yeah, maybe just a theme. So
I'm getting some new Japan in here. I love Omega's
Del's in the Sky because it's so yeah it's and
again I've always said this, like I would love to have,
you know, Roman Reigns a couple of years ago and
then New Japan Keny Omega main inventor or like the
aura those two would have. And I will fully it's
like Kenny and Aw is great. He's my favorite guy
right now, but there is something whenever he's in Japan.
It's like he's a different fucking person. I don't know
what it is, like, he just comes off as like
there's something there. Uh. And that music helps too because
it has his build up and it just the sounds
it makes. So I love that. I like his current theme,
but Devil in the Sky is is bad ASTs it's like, okay,
there's a sass on his way.
Speaker 2: And as a final fantasy fan, like, I love the
homage to it, and I'm really hoping that when he
returns at the Tokyo Dome this year, he uses that
he's got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got so I hope that happens. Uh. Number
five Yeah, I also got Cody's as well. Cody's even
originally when I heard it, I was like, I don't
know about this, Like I just felt it was like
like I.
Speaker 4: Want to go back and listen to now without people
doing the Woe, it sounds weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I'm not saying it was like try
harder one, but like the whole store, it just felt
like I don't know. I wasn't even when Cody did
his hair first, I was like, I don't know if
this is the right call. But eventually all worked once
he like fully found the character. Yeah, with the crowd
obviously huge thing. So I.
Speaker 2: Liked it when he first started it, but mainly because
as he was doing it, Brandy was also doing his
intro with the Roads that like all that the star
that left him in the dust, Like she had that
whole intro for it, so that going into the music
played a whole lot more than Yeah. When he came
to New Japan and she didn't do the entrance but
he just had the music, I was kind of like,
it's all right, it's missing something. But now that he's
fully formed a character and he's got the woe and
everything else, the timing of the Piro. It just works.
Speaker 1: And I think what also didn't work for me is
like I don't think it's a good song for a heel,
which that's when he got that song. He was a
heel for those first few years. And I don't think
it even when if he switches at some point, I
imagine he will. He says he won't, but like, I
think it's gonna come at some time. I think you
got to kill that theme. You know, you can't can't
have it. It's like the Jerk when Jerk was was popular,
like the Fozzy thing, right, It's just a counterproductive. So
that's why at the beginninghen he came out, he supposed
to be like American Nightmare, You're supposed to hate me.
It's like this theme feels like it's a heroes theme,
and that's what Cody wanted to be. Really was a hero, right,
So uh, number four. I love that we have a
variation of it nowadays, but I still love the original
Hollywood Rock my God, the build up and just and
just like like yeah, yeah, I love the that is,
I love like the dun't like the lightning everything, but
you know, and just like it's come again and then
just like just like and I love when you listen
to the actual song, it's like the First Men. The
half is just like Helicopter Noise and the Whizzards my
fair I can't really. I think it's like it's yeah, yeah, yeah,
and it's so melch but like it's Jim Johnson ripping
on the guitar in the middle there, Like I love it.
Like if I was a wrestlerman like, I'd kill for
a theme like that because it just feels that's like
Hollywood Rock had such a cool or. Final Boss is
a different or, but that entrance and when he'd come out.
I love, you know, rock seems in general, but specifically
Hollywood Rock. But yeah, Final Boss one is also good too.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Number three, I got Eddie Guerrero man. I like the
Viva la Rossa. I remember when I had been watching
for a while and I watched Damien Priest versus a
Bad Bunny like and I was watching it live. I
fully did not think Eddie Guarrel was alive, but I
did not know the LWO was using the song star
of Viva a Rossa. So for a second when that
music hits was I was like when people thought Mark
I was coming out WrestleMania.
Speaker 4: I've seen clips of like WrestleMania thirty nine, Like I
always watch his like audience footage, and like when when
Ray did the Eddie entrance, there's been like there's like
all the content like first plait, second I thought he
was coming up and that it.
Speaker 1: Was and when I hear that fava and it's just
because especially when he was like a baby face when
he beat Brock and he had that run, he was
my favorite. I loved it, Like he's in my top ten.
It's like ahole bunch of stuff, cris and everything. But
even the entrance at the low Bright I had just
such a good party energy. There is the cool version
that slowed down and there's like a there's a cell phone.
It's like can you feel that he is just like yeah,
there's like other rap in it too, but like yeah,
it's not as good, but like that the it has
like a special place my heart. The vola rosso one,
So yeah, I love that. I you know, I hate
I'm wit Chavo. I hate that LWO has it because
I keep hearing it and I just like but at
the same time, okay, well, at least you know, it
takes me back and hopefully some fans listening, oh who
was that?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 1: And then these two have been mentioned, but they're higher
up for me. So I got number two called personality.
Loved that song good one, uh you know you guys
spoke about it, and then that Yeah, I got metalingus
up atop it. Just when that hits. I think it's
so good. I think it's the perfect song for the
like he's had many returns this man or like debuts,
but it's the perfect just like you think you know me,
and and it like has a good delay, and every
time he comes up with the pyro, specifically when he
came back at that rumble, it just has such a
huge epic feel. And I'm glad he did get using
aw because it is that type of theme where it's like.
Speaker 4: I don't right, I was, Yeah, it was great, And
like I don't think any other music like half okay, no,
that's too much.
Speaker 1: A good percentage of edges hype before it builds up
is that theme in him getting there, and he's smart,
like he chose it. He builds his entrance around it.
But it gets you going. And I think anytime there's
a city situation, like just to come out and make
a we love AW speech. You're like, oh man, that
theme it fucking it's a great theme, you know, So yeah,
I love it. But uh yeah, speaking of AW our
final topic, will do some of these uh predictions he
for AW, which I didn't even know who the fucking
big boom aj guy was. Like literally they like it's
like internet meme that I get whoever he was. Didn't
know who he was. But then because he's in AW,
it's all over my timeline everything like that. So yeah,
what do we Let's say we got MGF versus Rogers
song very strange matchup. I don't know why Adam Cole
is not in this, why it's not a triple threat.
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: You got Jay White versus Hangman Adam Page, you got
Private Party in some big tag team match. You got
Mercedes Mone versus Christatlander, you got Swore versus Bobby Lashley,
Jack Perry versus Daniel Garcia, will Osbry vers Kyle Fletcher,
and then Mocksley versus Orange Cassidy. What's standing out to
you in this card? David? And what have you thought
about the h since we did the show. We all
knew it was gonna happen, but he beat Brian. Now
they're not the VCC, they're the Death Riders. What have
you thought about AW since? Uh god, what Russell dream
of twenty twenty four and this Death Riders story and
some of these other matches happening.
Speaker 2: So the Death Writers story, it's I do want to
know where it goes. I don't see exactly where their
endpoint is going to be. I'm guessing it's going to
be Death Writers versus the Elite is what we're solely
building up to. Oh brother, don't say, but I like
it's it's not what I want, and it's not I
don't want the direction of any of this, Like I'm
I just I really don't know. And then the weird
subplot going on with Wheeler Yuda and I'm my own man, No,
you're not the type deal. It's just I don't know.
It's kind of weird and convoluted, and I'm not sure
where they're going with this. You know. Props to Max.
He's been holding AW down at various points. He has
been their ace. He has been what people talk about,
uh town of how she was with New Japan when
it took it, it's low and he was the one
who was carrying it through. That is what mox has
been at this point. He has been the workhorse of
aw so's you know, yeah, full props to him, but
I just I don't know where this is going. I
don't see Orange Cassidy when in this he's gonna put
on a good match. Of course, I mean it. This
had been something a couple of years ago more when
Orange Cassie was still doing his I'm lazy, but I'll
turn it on. But now Orange Casie's at a point
where every match, you know he's going to turn it on.
Speaker 1: So they yeah, yeah, they tried to do that storyline too,
where they're like, Orange, you gotta help us, and he
was just like, no, I don't think so. And I
was like like that's fine, but it felt very out
of nowhere that like why is Orange like not wined
until they killed Daniel Bryn or Brian Daniels and he
was like, Okay, maybe I gotta help, but like before
he's like I don't really know, but yeah, that's and
they did the story of him becoming the workhers, not
with only the title, but like with Moxley, they had
that match where he like matured him in a sense right,
Like he made him become more of a wrestlers guy.
So I think I guess it's just like to end
the trilogy. And my maybe prediction is Orange Cassie has
some time off and they just want to kill him
off too, Like that's what I'm predicting, is they're gonna
do this because Orange, Like I can't remember the last
time Orange was not on AWTV for an extended amount
of time. Like he's a consistent guy, so I can
legitimately see he has vacation time and like, oh, perfect,
have Moxley just eat him up and I don't know,
break his foot and then and he's.
Speaker 2: He's off of TV for a while. Instead of just
han't been in the background, he's fully off TV. I
mean that could be a deal. Like I said, we
know John Moxy is one and when it comes to
the TBS Women's Championship, I'm not invested in this match whatsoever.
I could care absolutely less about Mercedes Monday and Chris Stettlander,
Like there is nothing about this that makes me Their
backstage segments have been horrible. Nothing about this is just screaming.
I want to see this, This is going to make
me feel something. And for the fact that as it
stands right now, this is the only women's match on
the card and I don't ye anything for it is
a problem.
Speaker 1: I think I can't remember what the stat wise it
was something like aw, I think it was the last
week had like five hours of content, only twenty minutes of.
Speaker 4: Women's arrest, so it was five hours with ten minutes
of women's wrestling, and then it was a dirty had like.
Speaker 3: Over an hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like Mona, you can't say the quotes of like, oh,
we've made it better and yet to da da And
that's I'm not putting that on her, that's on everybody.
Like they got lots of good people just because like
britt Breaker has been, you know, not doing the greatest.
Like there's tons of people on that roster. I think
the only reason I'm excite is because I actually think
this could end up being a really good match for Moneta.
I think she needs a banger match. She heard all
her match has lately been like me bad or fine,
and I know she can do better than that. So
I agree with you at the backstage stuff. But I
do think Statlander can I think with her size, they
can do something good for me. Stat Lerner kind of
uh leveled up after that match with Willow, even though
I hate that they you know, turn her baby face
and the stokely things done. I know they've tried to
They keep trying to say, oh, yeah, we just got
together to take down with them.
Speaker 3: Like that was never on TV. Yeah they've ever mentioned
on TV.
Speaker 1: You guys screwed it up. Stupid, you know.
Speaker 2: But the fact that there's nine eight main show matches,
nine if you include the aj QT Marshall match on
the Zero Hour. But there's nine matches and you only
have one women's match and it's been a poorly built
one at that is a problem that they need to address.
I mean, now, as far as the TNT Championship, Jack
Perry Daniel Garcia, that's the only one where I'm just like,
you know what, this could be a good time for
a title change. You could put Daniel Garcia in that spot.
This is perfect timing Hangman and Jay White. I just
think these two are going to have an absolute banger
and I'm here for it. Hangman has been on point.
I'm looking to see premium New Japan version of Jay
White and I'm all here for Bobby Lashley's in ring
debut Witch Swerve Strickland. I think they'll have a great match.
I think both of those guys want to put on
a good match. Will Ospray versus Kyle Fletcher. I mean
it's will Ospray. He is the best thing in wrestling
right now, at least until Kenny Omega returns, so of
course he's going to have a good match. And mjf
Roderick Schunk. I'm confused as to why they didn't keep
this with the triple threat match. I don't know where
this story is going to go from here unless they're
saving Adam Cole for something bigger. And then you've got
the tag team match. I don't think it's the right
time to take the belts off a private party. They've
worked so hard for.
Speaker 1: This, You've just annoyed it there this month back to
somebody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know people really like the Outrunners, but I
don't see them winning. Then you got the King Kings of.
Speaker 1: Black and it's called the House of Black. Just called
House Black. You know, stop with the middle name, Like
these separate group names were within the group.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of how I feeling in New Japan
with the Bullet Club when they have all their offsets
and I'm just like, you're you're all Bullet Club. I'm
not doing this house of Torch. I'm not doing all
this other the war Dogs. You're all Bullet Club. I
don't know who the fourth team is gonna be, but
I don't. Okay, yeah, so I don't think you. I
still don't think you take it off private party right now?
Speaker 1: No, I think what private party they're gonna do like
the Workhorse Champs, because that was the whole thing. The
Bucks didn't defend them. So I think you're just gonna
see private party, like every two weeks defend. They'll put
on a good match they always do MGF versus Roger Strung.
I don't know why they are doing this, Like I
like Roddy, but I think we all agreed that, Hey,
Adam Cole MGF, that might be long in the tooth,
but as long as they paid off at full gear,
sure like that was like the they didn't get to
finish the feud, let's do it. I'm very over the whole.
I hate the MJF. I won't verse you. It's like
the ill it's like the seth a member a team
with Rome and then look what's happening and Jeff like,
you're never getting me in the ring. You know what?
Speaker 4: But if you beat at World's End for the full.
Speaker 1: Circlet for my life, but like for m J. Big,
I'm never wrestling, and then like, oh, you know what
if you beat three guys and in storyline, Adam Cole
is known as a good wrestler. He's won championships in
the company, so to be like it'd be different. It's
like you gotta win three handicapped matches. Three Like it's
like it's not even It's just like you gotta beat
I don't know, just a wrestler, right, It's like okay,
And I'm at least happy they didn't have him beat
Takeshta because they have Taqusha like heat it up right now.
When I saw that, I was like, oh man, they're
gonna have fucking Adam Cole hit that big knee. It's like, no,
I'm so glad because like I'm I'm a Takesha mark,
so in that aspect, I'm glad. But it's it's very odd.
I get what they're doing. They're gonna build up two
under due to error getting back together and yeah, sure,
I'm all down, like it was a great run a XT,
but I just hope they have a vision for it
and not just hey, these guys were a group. That's
put them back together. Because I could scream Teena Jwayne
Adam Page. I know they'll have a great match. It
also just feels like they have no idea what to
do with these guys though, like because they just they
already did this last pay per view. I'm gonna assume
Adam Page has to get his win back because Jade
beat him last time. I already spoke on money and Chris,
I'm I'm excited from the technical standpoint, but I agree
that women's booking has been abysmal, Like where's Mariah May
I wasn't on the Hate Bend.
Speaker 4: Having a live champagne celebration with Mina on the on
the show, probably on the pre show because that was
the last all out. She did the exact same thing.
It was like, Oh, I'm gonna have a celebration. Then
she says them and says, oh, I'm not gonna do it,
and then i'm an not A attacked her and then
they had a match. I'm like, I think it was dynamite.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem. That's the thing I give them
credit for. And that's where I pushed back on people
that all the rumors like Tony isn't like long term booking,
Like there's part of that's true, part that could be.
But they did that with Tony Mariah. But it's like
they're like, hey, and the fit, like we got the
final chapter, Mariah becomes this piece of shit, heel hits
her own mother beats Tony's a champ, but then they
never figure out like the after that, and I think
the problem is they're just waiting, like she's gonna turn
on Mina and that will be fun, and then Tony
will be back and we're just back into that. So
it just feels like she's been treading. It feels very
much like what the Bloodline was doing before Roman got back, right,
just like, Okay, what can we do just to fill
time until we get the OTC versus New Trial Chief.
It's like, okay, what we can we do with Mariah?
And really not much like and a Jay, like she's
she's a better restler now. She did some good stuff
in New Japan, but it's like there's no story there. Mariah,
she's just been like absent from I guess she could
be on Collision and stuff because I don't get to
watch as much. But again, the brands, it's probably she's
like she's.
Speaker 4: Like on Collision with like like vignettes and stuff like that. Yeah,
and yeah, there was one recently though. I was like
it was coming around because the opening line was her
that she hates women's wrestling, and she said she hates
it because no one's as good as her.
Speaker 1: That's what I hate is that she's like and she
chose go hate w So it's fine because she liked
that story too. But like, I think she's very she's
very talented. She should be getting lots of screen time.
But you know, alas, we'll see what happens. But sure.
Speaker 2: All my thing is just you've got so many women
on the roster. So you've got Mariah May, You've got
Harley Cameron, who's been hot right now, You've got Diana Prossy,
you've got to return to Jamie Hater. You've got all
these things you've been doing for Julia Hart's return, like
you have so many.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamie Hater is my second fair between behind Rhea
and like, I'm ready for her to go to the FED.
I'm ready for her contract to be up and her
to go to ann XT because at this point, which
is very odd because she was like a case where
it wasn't even meant for her to get as popular
and over as she did. It's just the crowd was
so behind her when she was like BRIT's bot guard
and they put the title on her. It sucks that
she got injured because that like killed the momentum. But like,
I just feel like, I guess she's there pairing her
with Julia Hard it seems like right because she was
doing a promo and then that's when Julia Hart's promo
interrupted her. And Julie Hart too like another great and
like proved person. But yeah, hat I've been super disappointed
in the booking with her because I felt like they
were gonna, like at least have her. But again, when
the women don't get that much, it's just like there's
so little time for them.
Speaker 2: So but I mean, so you've got Jamie Hayter return,
she's been hot. You've got Dianna Parasso who's from New
Jersey where this is gonna be. I mean, you can
throw a second women's match on here just to and
that one will will get the crowd going, Like it
doesn't have to be for any stakes or anything. Again,
You've got Mariah May, You've got so many options here,
and you're just not displaying all these incredible female wrestlers,
Like you've got a good crop of female wrestlers, and
this is the one match you want to go with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Swerve and Bobby should be interesting. I'm not like
the biggest Bobby Lashley fans, so like I'm not like
Jones and to see this, but I think Bobby will
get the win here somehow. Uh Jack Perry versus Daniel,
I think there's like a chance it could be like
the Sleeper of the Night. I could see them having
good chemistry. I could also see it being just like
an Alright match, But there's some there, and I think
Garcia'll get his big moment. I think Osprey's losing because
they got his other partner, Mark Davis. He's gonna turn
on him and I don't know what they're gonna do
with him. And then yeah, with the Moxy stuff. I'm
I've been a fan of the storyline. I think specifically,
the things I like the most is the youter stuff
I thought last week or whoever had this idea, I
loved when they booked the whole they were gonna break
you to his neck and then Orange Cassie came out
for the save and then you to turn on him.
I thought that was fucking really cool. So that's where
it's like, I think so far comparing on the Elite
takeover storyline, this is a better version. But I agree
if it leads to Kenny coming back with the butt like,
I'll I will completely be you know, not turned But
I was like this, I'll be non invested because the.
Speaker 4: Bus come back and say they need to restore the
feeling and make AW were the best drestle and that
they need to stop the death Riders.
Speaker 1: And we did this a couple of years ago. Not
the offse wasn't for the AW company, but it was
just these two groups don't like each other, BCC and
the Elite. They have all these issues fight and they
had the great series, great fanale. Like, I was very
happy with everything they did. I wish they did a
few more single matches, like the fact we still have
never got Kenny versus Claudio a crime, a crime. This
is never I've never my eyes have yet to see this,
but uh yeah, I hope it's to me. It shouldn't be.
I hope it's the young guys. I hope it's Garcia,
you know, Cassidy, you know whatever. Even if they want
to turn Jack Perry something. Perry's fine, but like, I
don't want to be those guys coming back. I want
even when Omega gets back, I wanted to be doing
his own thing, and I could see I'm find them
doing Omega and Moxley. That's as far as I'll go there,
But the rest of the stuff, I don't want the
elite and Omega reforming right now in this sense. And
I like the storyline. I think they gotta be careful
because of course people getting lost shit this week when
they're like Oxley sees his TBS and it's just like
a promo, So like I get there being cute, but
they gotta be careful. And I think there's sometimes they
shouldn't even preview Moxley. He should be like an outside
entity that just interrupts the show. But there's stuff like
I fucking love that they keep the title in a briefcase,
like we haven't seen the title in weeks. I love that.
So there's stuff in the storyline that I really like.
I just have to see how it kind of ends up.
But I like the okay, the old Guard versus the
New Guard. He's trying to, like, you know, tough, love
them into like evolving, and Moxley's always great cutting promo.
So so far, I'm liking it. It hasn't been like a
knockout every week, but I like the Youter stuff a lot,
and I like Claudio and UDA's dynamic, and I kind
of hope we get a match. I hope. I don't
know if it's pay review match, but I would love
it if you To makes a turn and in this
wake we get Moxley and you To you shouldn't beat him.
It'll be Darby, who every week keeps popping out of somewhere.
I appreciates from the roof. This time he came to
the crowd. But uh, so far, I do like the
Death Writers storyline overall, I've invested where there's not a
lot of other storylines right now in AW I'm currently
invested will Osbry and Kyle. We've kind of been here
done that before. I don't care about the his hurt
syndicate like bowling Prince Nana and like trying to get Swerve,
Like I'm I'm more looking forward to when we get
back and Swerve and Hangman to finish that off. So
the main story in AW I'm interested in. The rest
is kind of just a round. So I'm excited for
the new Year. I think they're gonna do kind of
like a refresh soon.
Speaker 2: So I would love to see a situation where uh
mocks in this persona he has now like you were saying,
don't advertise them like that whole taking over or TVs thing.
Don't advertise them. So I have just a match between
two people one that's just like, okay, this is just
a filling time match. Have the death Riders come out,
beat up everyone in the ring, and then he cuts
his where taking over promo It's yeah, it's not that's
what they did.
Speaker 4: That's what they did at first, like with the private
party thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were having a matter with.
Speaker 4: Someone and then they just came out of the crowd
and just beat everyone up and just.
Speaker 1: Try And that was good because they continue that story
because for a couple of weeks probably then started to
keep attacking them, right, so it's like okay, and then
they got the tag title, so it made sense of Okay,
they're not the biggest tag team, but still it's someone
for like, hey, screw you guys, We're gonna come at you,
and it gives them some fodder. So it feels weird
for them to like advertise it, but I get it
they want to like it. Moxley. I don't know what
he does ratings wise, but at least some people might
tune in more to that versus something else.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but the whole next step we'll hear from
John Moxley. And then it's just this cdo were taking over?
Like this wasn't planned type deal. Not let them come out,
you just have a random match and they just interrupt
clear the ring and like, yo, we're reminding you this
is our show.
Speaker 1: Or even like with the seizing TVs station the Superstition, right,
he just comes out and as a promo, I love
it if he came out there and they got a
chair and sat down and he's like, the show's not
gonna continue until someone gets as at the rate, like
he didn't seize the super Satis. She just came out
and talk like do stuff like that where it's like, hey,
I think.
Speaker 4: They were just trying to go like more and more
over the top with it. I know people because the
first one was like it was just like Max takes
Chicago or whatever.
Speaker 3: And then they were.
Speaker 4: Just and they even use like the old TVSS logo
just because.
Speaker 1: Yeah and no, and that's the thing, like I'm not
saying like, oh, that's what was retten to so much
as far as I'm find the graphic, because it saw
a lot of people be like, oh, they fucking disappoint
us to see it, but I just betising, Yeah, I
just be like and I'm fine, but just like just
do something other than just a promo at least, you know,
like do something to be a little bit different. But
I still like that they leave in the truck, and
I again this week they they left without Udah. They
got on the truck and they started to drive away,
which I love the show. Uh fucking Darby just jumps
in the back of the truck and they stopped. But
like they were gonna leave without Yudah. So I and
I'm a big Utah fan. I loved how he got
in the BCC. I love it, so I feel that
is a key storyline at some point. So I like
that they are he's really at the bottom pole like
you shared that s Pub's like I laughed a big
time in that clip when he's like, no one tells
me what to do and Clouds like shut up and
then he shuts up.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: I love that they've they've gasled him to joining this
group of like hey, be with us and you can
be like above everyone else. But he's still like the
bottom of the totem pole right like you are. He's
he's the bitch boy. He's like the bag boy for them,
you know, and like that he's gonna have to snap.
And I do appreciate that he's still just stealing Brian's
move sets, like he's doing all his finishes and everything.
I'm like, this is little stuff that I enjoy. So yeah, yeah,
And I think overall the show should be like good.
I'm not expecting this to be the paper of the
year if I think it's gonna be like a like
a B tier one, which could be good, but us
any thoughts and any of this stuff, M no.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many matches. I'm ready that interested
in Like you guys are like the Rody MJF things
just like weird. Yeah, it's just like I feel like
a aw thing to do. It's like, yeah, they're gonna
have a great match, but like why is this really happening?
Speaker 1: And I don't buy that roddy Like like it just
felt like Adam Coole and MGF every time they've been
on screen, like when one's injured, it's like there's still
some illusion there. It didn't feel like the whole time
he's like, oh man, when MGFF gets back, I can't
fucking wait to get a piece of him. It's like
he just feels like a like a little brother, like
oh yeah, I want to fight him too, Like it's it's.
Speaker 4: Awesod On the Osprey cal Fletcher thing. I'd have to
remember what the exact wording of the promo, but Kyle
Fletcher was saying like he like he cut his hair
and stuff, and like he doesn't want to be anything
like Ospray, Like he's showing that he's nothing like Osprey.
And then at some other point in the promo he said,
like I turned on Osprey because Osprey did the same
thing to these people in New Japan and then Osprey
when he returns, Like, if you're not trying to be
like me, why are you coughing? Like exactly what I do.
So I thought that was a funny thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and they'll they'll have a they'll they'll have
the classic you know, six Star Tokyo don't match for me,
and they will have a good one. I like Fletcher
enough so far. I think he needs to I guess
shape the head's one thing, but you know, build some
other character elsewhere. No Taqueshta on this card though, you know, big,
big damn, big damn. So yeah, well there you go,
lay gentlemen. That is it for this month's episode of
the Gimmick. The next one not sure, let's see when's
the next. I know we'll plan out and I'll still
be editing and everything like that.
Speaker 4: What is.
Speaker 1: Because it's gonna be a weird thing because you'll have
at World's End, But then Rumbles not one Saturday night
may event, because maybe that'll.
Speaker 4: Be around somewhere in December. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Because we'll plan it before, okay, so probably Yeah, we'll
probably try to plan around there so then we're not
too close to the Christmas season for you guys and everything,
because that also will get harder planned. So yeah, maybe
we'll do that. We'll see what's planned, whether it's the
predictions or view there and everything like that. But yes, no,
it's always fun. I'm gonna miss this for the next
little bit here, but I'll be listing. I'll be excited.
I'll be rooting for my new pick Jimmy USO to
take me to the top and the draft, you know,
I'm hoping, but uh, yeah, no, I'm excited to be
a listener and see what happens and he's like. And
you guys got a lot of big stuff that'll be
happening next a little bit, even the wargames thing. I'll
be mad to not cover that, hopefully hopefully it's all
good stuff. But yeah, no, we'll be off seeing the
wrestling discord too, so if you want to join that, uh,
we'll be there. But yeah, no, it'll be a good time.
You guys, got anything to say before we head on
out here?
Speaker 4: Uh? Really, I guess I'm going to n XT again
this Tuesday. Nice hopefully get a good show there.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's nice, that's cool. I just can regularly go.
Speaker 4: That's this week, So that's why I'm able to go there.
Speaker 1: Nice yeah, nice, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm excited about the upcoming wrestling car they Wrestlings
is starting to WWE has been booking themselves pretty pretty
good lately, and I'm excited to see where it goes,
especially with this UH turn to Netflix. Once they go
to there, despite what people think about last night's UH
infuriation with Netflix, I think they will be able to
handle the streaming that is coming up for them. So
I'm excited about that. I'm excited about UH New Japan
has some good stuff already coming together with their Wrestle
Kingdom card and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm excited for the Night after too. That's
starting card.
Speaker 2: Instead of doing the two night Wrestle Kingdom, now they
have the one the back to just January fourth, and
then they're doing the second night yeah with the crossover. Yeah,
so I'm excited about that.
Speaker 1: My boy Kenny's on his way back. I'm excited. He
said he's playing Coy and be like, well, I don't know,
but I think there's no reason he doesn't go there
and then like get beat up backstage, Like I think
that he's January fifth. I cannot wait, like that's gonna
be That's gonna be a religious appointment in this household.
See ken't Omega back the ring watch will just be
completely washed though now because he almost died. But I'll
give him the benefit of the doubt because the man
fucking like could have left us. So I'll just be
happy to get anything from Kenny Omegan now.
Speaker 2: The way that he was talking about New Japan, I
don't think he would have agreed to do that unless
he knew he was in the shape to do that,
because he was talking with people saying why why aren't
you doing this with AW? And he's like, I would
not be where I am without New Japan. People wouldn't
know my name without New Japan. I owed him everything.
I think that he's gonna give them a good show.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. But then the other half of
that answer, he's like, yeah, I just don't feel like
AW needs me right now. I'm like, no, brother, AW
needs you more than fucking ever right now. Like again,
I'm not something that's turned on the product of like
like I'm not lately. I suppose you've just been always
using the Eric Bischoff means. I'm not a that point
I think people are super hyperbolic about how bad is.
But like I said, I agreed that, hey, there's some
stuff that needs lots of provemn And like I said,
I love the deaf friar stuff going on. But other
than like you always get great wrestling, I'm non invested elsewhere.
Kenny usually unless he's pair with Jericho, can get you
invested in his storylines and all his obviously his matches.
Speaker 4: Even in that interview, Kenny said, like doing that promo
with Jercho, that's when he realized something was wrong with him,
and that's when he went to the hospital like the
day after.
Speaker 1: It is a legendary it's a legend of bad promo.
But it's like no, like it's.
Speaker 4: Like it's a sad one looking back, but it's just
like it is so bad. Everyone is just like just
like Ricky starts some big biller, like what is going on?
Speaker 1: We can laugh at it now because right, yeah, it
seemings okay, but like yeah, looking at it now, it's
just like it's a mess. But yeah, it's like no,
like the aw definitely needs you, man. They could use
a Kenny Omega back on the card. So but yeah,
so I hope when I come back to the Gimmick,
he will be fully there, back there, and I'll be excited.
So yes, thank you as always for listening. I'll be
back in December to cover some stuff and it won't
be boring. Take care of one h