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<v Speaker 1>What's that on the wall behind you?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Uh looks like a didgerid.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I haven't heard of a didery do since Rolf

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<v Speaker 1>Harris was listed.

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<v Speaker 3>Obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>I do you know what more than you think?

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<v Speaker 3>What a way to start?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this, of course is the French Open Rowland Garross

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<v Speaker 1>preview for us because it's a rendezvous with Monsieur Willis

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<v Speaker 1>and Monsieur Willis you are there now. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you're playing. We're going to talk about the French

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<v Speaker 1>Open in general. What's your place like? Because you've opted

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<v Speaker 1>for in air BnB with the interesting interesting DIDs on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>On the wall, yeah, wooden lizards, DVD box sets, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a vinyl player in the corner, and the kitchen has

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<v Speaker 2>peas and character in a can.

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<v Speaker 3>And other things. And the freezer.

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<v Speaker 2>I did see there's some hargain gars, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>mini bots, and I went, oh, they've left targons here,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's just a rapper. They've not thrown it away,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, yeah, teasing. Someone obviously lives here quite

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<v Speaker 2>often and they've obviously rented it out.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're sleeping in the dustin.

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<v Speaker 1>DVD box sets. Can you see them over your shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Yeah, okay, first glance, top three, you can see,

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<v Speaker 1>go what does any three? Any three? Let's go, let's

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<v Speaker 1>rate them. You're just going to go, You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>grab them. Marcus has now moved away, but underneath the

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<v Speaker 1>digerido obviously, if you're listening to this, you can visit

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<v Speaker 1>our YouTube channel to see it is a faux gas lamp.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to maybe something like you'd see in a

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<v Speaker 1>western perhaps. I've seen some red drapes.

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<v Speaker 2>Midnight Express, Shakespeare in Love and look look come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they're just fronglaide that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, what Midnight Express, Shakespeare in Love? Okay, rate them?

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<v Speaker 1>What order?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Midnight Express one, Shakespeare in Love too, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know look him back.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the only other English one I can see.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all friends with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I'm going to Shakespeare in Love one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Midnight Express two. That's terrible DVD in, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you need I have a quick look

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<v Speaker 2>because I had to leave you here.

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<v Speaker 3>But but yeah, most of them are French.

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<v Speaker 1>So the places are places good fight club.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen, oh, fight Club.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there we go, there we go. It's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the fight club. The place is good. What's the location

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<v Speaker 1>like in terms of getting to and from the run

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<v Speaker 1>of Garross practice courts?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a six minute drive to site or a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minute walk. It's about a mile away twenty minutes, fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>The practice facilities off.

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<v Speaker 2>Site there's there's a couple like ten to fifty minute

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<v Speaker 2>walk away, or you get a transport. I'm playing at

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<v Speaker 2>Annex today which you can get a golf buggy across

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes. Yesterday I played at the Jamboe, which was

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<v Speaker 2>very good. A lot of singles guys are in their

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<v Speaker 2>training because it's you know, it's twenty twenty clay courts

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<v Speaker 2>very close to site.

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<v Speaker 3>So hot. Yeah, it's very hot. It's hot in England.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Well I'm in Nurse Sunny South London. It's

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<v Speaker 1>currently thirty one at nine thirty in the morning. So

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<v Speaker 1>well done, Sunny South London.

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<v Speaker 3>Done?

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<v Speaker 1>And what what about? Look as you are now officially

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<v Speaker 1>a Grand Slam veteran, having just about to play all

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<v Speaker 1>four Slams, how do they rate to Ossie, Open, US

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<v Speaker 1>and Wimbledon.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just different isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it just feels different because you're playing on clay b.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of around the corner like US and Aussium

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<v Speaker 2>but Yanks away, aren't they, especially Aussie, But like you're

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<v Speaker 2>on a I was here an hour and our hour on.

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<v Speaker 3>A flight like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's nice. It's it's got everything you need.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say it's quite congested, like when you eat. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not many places to sit down, especially when there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot a lot of people here the first few days.

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<v Speaker 3>But everything's in light.

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<v Speaker 2>Facilities good, good gym locker rooms great. I've got an

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<v Speaker 2>actual locker with a code on and like a wooden locker,

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<v Speaker 2>which is pretty cool. Yeah, yes, it's it's it's nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you telling us at the Aussie Open about

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<v Speaker 1>like the washing systems and lay day and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I had their laundry yesterday evening. It's coming back up

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<v Speaker 2>to today, so I don't know. Comes in like a

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<v Speaker 2>box apparently nice one day yesterday and I'm going there

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<v Speaker 2>again in the minute. So I've only seen bits of

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<v Speaker 2>it so far. I hit on site in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>hit offsite in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>You said about the courts oh, first of all, do

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<v Speaker 1>you sweep your own courts?

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<v Speaker 3>Those people were sweeping and watering.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said about the singles guys, I've got really

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<v Speaker 1>big dumb questions here. I hope the listeners appreciate that

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<v Speaker 1>these these are This is the kind of insight that

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<v Speaker 1>I need. You said, the singles guys are practicing obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament this year, Yannick Sinner on the men's side

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<v Speaker 1>is so head and shoulders favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever see as these singles guys are passing

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<v Speaker 1>each other along walkways, as there may be going on

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<v Speaker 1>each other's courts, do you ever see a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of tension between them?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Is everyone a friend kind of or.

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<v Speaker 3>Like some of it?

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<v Speaker 2>And everyone's quite chilled out behind closed doors. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you should people see them playing matches in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of battle, so they're going to be on quite high alert.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some people get angry on the practice court

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<v Speaker 2>or but not often not from what Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And for you, for you doubles guys, are you what

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<v Speaker 1>practices have you done so far?

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<v Speaker 2>I played practice points yesterday on site at eight am

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<v Speaker 2>with a French pair, and then we did like our

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<v Speaker 2>own thing in the afternoon and Louis came on, so me,

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<v Speaker 2>Louis and Adam on court just working on a few things.

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<v Speaker 2>In the afternoon we did hour and a half, an

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<v Speaker 2>hour and a half, so I'm gonna have a light

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<v Speaker 2>to day today because it's boiling.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing four or six one one hour points and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just some some technical stuff after and then probably

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<v Speaker 2>playing Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we come on to the match. Louis and

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<v Speaker 1>Yakub have they got any history any.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Louis saw him players matches in Australia because he

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<v Speaker 2>watched my matches and I was playing with him, so

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<v Speaker 2>he knows him. But they've never met before.

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<v Speaker 1>And Louis Kaye, for those of you who don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>is largely considered probably the best doubles coach of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Works for the LTA here in the UK. Lots of

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<v Speaker 1>letters there, and he's not shy about coming forwards. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>put it that way. Is he straight into Yakub or

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<v Speaker 1>is he all about you? With the odd comment to

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<v Speaker 1>Yakub Because I just having been on courts with Louis,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I can't imagine him holding back on anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's looking at what we're doing as a pair

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<v Speaker 2>and being pretty helpful, and like around tournament time he said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to brush up on things.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to change things now, it's just how

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<v Speaker 3>do we get.

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<v Speaker 2>Ourselves, you know, ready for a match and most effective tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not he's not going to start like doing technical

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<v Speaker 2>stuff with us on court in terms of you know, technique.

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<v Speaker 3>Or body parts or things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, he's very positive and helpful, especially around tournament time,

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<v Speaker 2>like on the practice scot and training blocks.

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<v Speaker 3>For something that needs fixing, he'll tell you, but then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll come up with a solution. So it's not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's I think he's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been anywhere else other than your apartment and

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<v Speaker 1>the practice centers?

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<v Speaker 2>Went for dinner last night? Italian about fifteen minute walk

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it. I'm going to go meet my coach

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<v Speaker 2>for a coffee now. Yeah, I don't know how far

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<v Speaker 2>he is away, but I'll say he's probably ten minutes

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<v Speaker 2>around the corner.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to go for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Coffee now, and then you're getting the transport of midday.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose what a day you planned, my friend. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look ahead to the match against the Argentinian pair

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<v Speaker 1>in the second part of today's podcast almost guaranteed to

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<v Speaker 1>be better than the first. Welcome back to what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, Willis Podcast Part du Let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>drawer itself, Marcus Willis you tennis Rowland Garrossa. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>two singles guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Bet and Hugo Carabella. Yeah, well, at.

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<v Speaker 2>The moment we do, you are very lost yesterday. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a chance that he wants to go on before the

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<v Speaker 2>grass season because it's probably an opportunity, or if he doesn't,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll stay and if basically if we play them, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be trying.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, because there's always a danger with these singles guys,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a good couple of results and their mind

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<v Speaker 1>wanders away from the doubles, right, Is it worse that

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<v Speaker 1>he lost.

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<v Speaker 3>If he plays, then yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't play, what happens we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Get an alternate pairing, which is you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>first out is Rosia Escobar, then it's Barry and Toss

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<v Speaker 2>b Hard. Then it's yeah, it's not it's not nice

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<v Speaker 2>whoever we play.

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<v Speaker 1>Really so it's top top elice sport.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're preparing to play the Argentina.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I mean we're talking. Echeberry is probably the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's the higher profile of twenty eight in the world now,

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<v Speaker 1>but is you know, there's he's had some battles out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Hugo Carabelli fifty nine in the world. Both

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<v Speaker 1>are in the top one eighty in doubles, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know they are active in doubles, although when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at their results in the past, neither have really been

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<v Speaker 1>past second third rounds tops. When you're looking through that

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<v Speaker 1>when the draw comes out, are you looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>singles players or are you looking for a doubles pair

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<v Speaker 1>or how does that work?

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<v Speaker 3>It depends what doubles.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got a top eight seed it's not or

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<v Speaker 2>top sixteen seed it's It's tough. But I'd say if

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<v Speaker 2>we're playing Wimbledon and we're playing them, that's so much

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<v Speaker 2>nicer draw than playing them on the clay. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they may they may have third round us third round. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so they've beaten some good you know, the results against

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<v Speaker 2>doubles players are good when they try. I mean Hugo

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<v Speaker 2>Carabelli famously and then to be last year after the

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<v Speaker 2>French he was playing with someone from another country and

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<v Speaker 2>he says, like, I can't communicate, I'm just here for

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<v Speaker 2>the money and kind of tanked. But since then he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time he's stepped on, I think he's tried. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's yeah for Roland Garross. If you're playing two

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<v Speaker 2>It's not ideal, but I say, could could be worse.

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<v Speaker 2>You could be playing top seed second seeds. But as

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<v Speaker 2>far as singles players go, you don't get it much

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<v Speaker 2>tougher than them. No, No, maybe maybe I Vasher run

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah I looked at that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, out of singles guys, like, yeah, that's not nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's quite a few singles and doubles guys teamed up.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you're right, and yeah, I mean we spoke

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<v Speaker 1>about it over Wimbledon last year. The singles guys. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you say that they're just more more versatile, Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a they do different things with the serve especially Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>in what way?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they probably bigger, They serve bigger, and they serve

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<v Speaker 2>more aggressively at spots. They're not trying to set up

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<v Speaker 2>their doubles part at the net, they're trying to win

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<v Speaker 2>the point bang right, which yeah, obviously if yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>they're missing first serveson giving you a lot of seconds and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they just serve. Yeah, it's it's different. It's more powerful.

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<v Speaker 3>They go more aggressive.

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<v Speaker 2>They can change direction down the line better, so they've

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<v Speaker 2>got no issue kind of stepping around and thumping the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of doubles guys. Yeah, they hit the

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<v Speaker 3>ball big, but they're on top of the net.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just different, and it's it's on clay. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's tougher. They've got more time, the balls bouncing everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>They can scud the ball around, they can hold the

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<v Speaker 2>ball weight, hit angles.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you what does that mean for you? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there's a serving pair you and Yaka. But

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really change too much. You're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there are thereabouts like you're in control, aren't you? That

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<v Speaker 1>bit the the returning part of the game though, facing

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<v Speaker 1>that serve. How does that alter it? Yaka's a great returner,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking maybe more more on your side mate, What

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<v Speaker 1>happens on that juice side. As a returner against a

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<v Speaker 1>single server.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just got more space I suppose if I've probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to get aced.

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<v Speaker 3>A bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I do connect with the ball, I love

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<v Speaker 2>more space to return, but they probably won't be so volleying.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, if I if I catch one hit

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<v Speaker 2>it you know, low over the let and it's short,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be as effective.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have to change and try and get deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I don't really know until I get

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<v Speaker 2>out there and see how they're playing, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a fair idea of what they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have any massive patterns, but you know, game

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<v Speaker 2>plans are great until you have three leved down.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, and oh we can it a back hand down

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<v Speaker 3>the line? Oh he can't, Okay, So so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's it's nice to know what to expect,

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<v Speaker 2>but you've got to ultimately you've got to try and

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<v Speaker 2>keep your first percentage high and put pressure on them

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<v Speaker 2>and stop them swinging if you can, which is easier

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<v Speaker 2>than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we're not going to keep you long today.

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<v Speaker 3>But this could be a whole conversation about a.

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<v Speaker 1>Pair of course, when do you find that out.

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<v Speaker 3>When the order of play comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, so that'll be I guess this afternoon, the order

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<v Speaker 2>of play and if they're if they're if they're on

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule, I'm guessing they're playing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd expect them to play at this stage.

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<v Speaker 1>But at any point can they pull out for an

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate or is there if the order of play comes

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<v Speaker 1>out and then they pull out, is there any way

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<v Speaker 1>get a bye?

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's no where, and I don't think you should

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<v Speaker 3>get by No.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, I just you know, like, is

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<v Speaker 1>there is there a deadline for them?

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<v Speaker 3>It was really the only way you can get is

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<v Speaker 3>if you play a few games and they pull out.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's there's no need for them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, of course, not of course, not now.

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<v Speaker 2>But people used to do that because they wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>paid if they didn't step on court. But then you

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<v Speaker 2>get people going on injured, playing five games, shaking hands

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<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather famously, on this podcast, your partner Yak of Paul

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't actually look at the drawer and things. Is he

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<v Speaker 1>aware of who you're playing?

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<v Speaker 3>Nope?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've told I've told my coach, I've told Louis

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<v Speaker 2>that he doesn't know. He didn't like to know who's playing,

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<v Speaker 2>so he'll know when the order of play comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>Mentally, So when you've got your training session, do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever find yourself like accidentally, you know, saying, yak of

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<v Speaker 1>what we might want to prepare for is perhaps playing

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<v Speaker 1>some singles guysers, perhaps from Argentina.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't, I I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't. I'm tempted to just wind them up and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and say, oh, there's no point in practicing with these

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<v Speaker 2>guys tomorrow. Nothing like I'm kind of which I've kind

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<v Speaker 2>of done. I've kind of set up practice so that

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<v Speaker 2>we're you know, not playing you know, lefties who were And.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you too much better practice against spaghetti string,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay mate, I can't say too much. I'll just say

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<v Speaker 1>spaghetti string.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So it's tempting that I haven't yet. I resisted

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<v Speaker 3>the urge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so weird, so like it's almost like a suspense.

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<v Speaker 2>But also how has no one come up to him

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<v Speaker 2>and giving him tips.

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, no one's done the big tennis player handshake

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<v Speaker 1>that one there, like that one where you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just I just saw Achi Erry. He's looking good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Why Well that bothered me, mate, You've got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this was a quickieat so best of luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sorry at all that we're going to be catching

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<v Speaker 1>up all throughout the French and we might not speak

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<v Speaker 1>to you now until after the battle.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see. Yeah, I might have a m have a

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<v Speaker 3>minute here or there if you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Sergeant Major of Craig Frederick on.

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<v Speaker 2>The trumpets and the composition the Army bluesh lock up

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<v Speaker 2>that