Speaker 1: All right, what's going on? Drift time?
Speaker 2: Wednesday afternoon, eight minutes past the hour or two o'clock,
Speaker 2: sun is trying to shine. It's warm enough, it's about
Speaker 2: sixty eight seventy degrees, but it is cloudy today here
Speaker 2: in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah, in this spring Wednesday afternoon,
Speaker 2: and as it is every single day, it's gonna have
Speaker 2: you along for the rides.
Speaker 1: Ben's check. It's me out of Mike.
Speaker 2: That's Porter Larsen behind the glass today and we've got
Speaker 2: a jam packed show Christmas Eve for a lot of
Speaker 2: football fans. The NFL Draft is tomorrow. We do some
Speaker 2: draft on the show today, gets you ready for the draft.
Speaker 2: We are your home with the NFL Draft here in
Speaker 2: the market.
Speaker 1: The latest on the.
Speaker 2: Buzz surrounding Jackson Dart latest high school football not too
Speaker 2: far away from where we're talking today, just down south,
Speaker 2: the latest buzz on any of the local players.
Speaker 1: It's one of those years where.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of local guys are expected to hear
Speaker 2: their name called early, if at all. But we'll get
Speaker 2: you ready for the draft tomorrow and then don't get
Speaker 2: tomorrow after we signed off fill here at the NFL
Speaker 2: Draft on our radio station. So day before the draft,
Speaker 2: big big day for a lot of people to love
Speaker 2: pro football. We'll get to some NBA basketball, some takeaways
Speaker 2: from the games last night. We'll preview the games tonight,
Speaker 2: tripleheader tonight, the will start.
Speaker 1: It will start with Orlando and Boston.
Speaker 2: At five o'clock Mountain times, So while we're on air,
Speaker 2: Orlando and Boston will actually tip my NBA TV has
Speaker 2: Miami in Cleveland, and then the late night game on
Speaker 2: Turner is Golden State in Houston. So some fun games tonight.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people excited for that Golden
Speaker 2: State game.
Speaker 1: Golden State Houston.
Speaker 2: Last night, the Lakers flipped the script Luka, Doncicks looked well,
Speaker 2: you know, the way he usually does, and they took
Speaker 2: care of the Tea Wolves ninety.
Speaker 1: Forty eighty five.
Speaker 2: The Thunder didn't win by fifty, they won by nineteen,
Speaker 2: but it was basically over after the first quarter.
Speaker 1: They were up fifteen after one.
Speaker 2: Memphis made a bit of a charge in the third,
Speaker 2: but really never seriously threaten. And a sneaky good series.
Speaker 2: Two teams that, for whatever reason don't seem to like
Speaker 2: each other. The Pacers in the Bucks Dame Lillard came
Speaker 2: back but did not look like himself, and the Pacers
Speaker 2: now lead that series two.
Speaker 1: Oh okay See is up two to oh and.
Speaker 2: Lakers Timberwolves tied at one game apiece. Jason Tatum looks
Speaker 2: like It looks like Jason Tatum will sit tonight. And
Speaker 2: if you're Boston, why not. The Celtics lead that series
Speaker 2: one zero, Calves are up one zero, and of course
Speaker 2: Golden State leads Houston one zero. So NBA playoffs spring
Speaker 2: basketballs always a lot of funny get into. Unfortunately, the
Speaker 2: Jazz are not involved for the third straight year, but
Speaker 2: we will learn the Jazz draft lottery fate come it
Speaker 2: up in just about three weeks ish. On Monday, May
Speaker 2: the twelfth is when we're going to learn where the
Speaker 2: Jazz will draft, and once we have that information, we'll
Speaker 2: kind of color the context of what the offseason will look.
Speaker 1: Like for Danny Aingel.
Speaker 2: Justin Zanakin, Utah Jazz front off is trying to he's
Speaker 2: together a winning basketball team, So we'll get the latest
Speaker 2: in pro basketball. The college Football Transfer Portal continues to
Speaker 2: make people angry online. We'll tell you the latest, tell
Speaker 2: you the latest as far as university of Utah's efforts
Speaker 2: to try to bring in some wide receivers to replace
Speaker 2: zach Rye Williams.
Speaker 1: Who Zach Williams.
Speaker 2: I guess is how he's kind of going this year,
Speaker 2: But some tough news came down yesterday. A lot of
Speaker 2: people believe Zach Williams would be wide receiver one for
Speaker 2: Utah football this year. It's a positional group of need,
Speaker 2: and he has hit the transfer portal as we talked
Speaker 2: about yesterday. Doesn't necessarily mean that he has gone altogether.
Speaker 2: But the latest for the Utes, the latest for the Cougars,
Speaker 2: the latest on the college football transfer portal college basketball
Speaker 2: transfer portal. Alex Jensen and his staff are hosting some
Speaker 2: recruits this week. Of course, the Dallas Mavericks lost to
Speaker 2: the Memphis Grizzlies last week final game of the play
Speaker 2: in situation, and so Alex is now free to allocate
Speaker 2: his time and energy to be the head coach of
Speaker 2: the University of Utah. Jimmer for Debt, James Taft for
Speaker 2: debt BYU Legends, one of the most exciting college basketball
Speaker 2: players we've had here in state, has announced his retirement.
Speaker 2: We'll get Jimmer on the show. Friend of the Program,
Speaker 2: we've got Jimmer on the show before. Jimmer is thirty
Speaker 2: six years old, an incredible basketball life. Quite frankly, we'll
Speaker 2: get into it on the show today. As we said
Speaker 2: about it, Jimmer for Debt has announced his retirement.
Speaker 1: Fun to do man, Busy, busy show.
Speaker 2: Ral saw Lake, according to a bunch of rumors, on
Speaker 2: the precipice of bringing in not just one, but maybe
Speaker 2: a couple, if not three players, as today is the
Speaker 2: final day of the primary transfer window in Major League Soccer,
Speaker 2: so as long as you have your paperwork dialed in,
Speaker 2: you're good to go. Oftentimes we'll hear some of the
Speaker 2: announcements as far as acquisitions after the window closes a
Speaker 2: lot of pressure on the RSL front office to add
Speaker 2: some reinforcement to Pablo's team because so far it has
Speaker 2: not been great.
Speaker 1: Rail salt Lake will be.
Speaker 2: Back in action coming up on Saturday against San Diego.
Speaker 2: Diego Luna will be on the pitch, on the field,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say, depending on your level of
Speaker 2: soccer or football snobbery. After Raal sal Lake was able
Speaker 2: to get that red card rescind it the appeal was approved.
Speaker 2: That never happens. It's pretty wild that it went out
Speaker 2: even when it's obvious. Leagues usually protect their officials at RSL.
Speaker 1: Appealing the red card, and it was approved.
Speaker 2: As John Kimball talked about on the show yesterday, a
Speaker 2: little bit of breaking news courtesy of Johnny So a
Speaker 2: time to do, Busy, Busy Wednesday Show. You are officially
Speaker 2: halfway through that work week. You are one day closer
Speaker 2: to the weekend. The weekend that looks like it will
Speaker 2: have some decent weather. Hopefully you can get outside and
Speaker 2: do a little hiking, little biking, play a little golf
Speaker 2: or whatever you're into. Some of the ski resorts still
Speaker 2: open if you want to do that. We're gonna have
Speaker 2: some cool temperatures into early next week. April, of course,
Speaker 2: brings a bunch of different weather variations, So a ton
Speaker 2: to do. Our first guest right out of the gates,
Speaker 2: our buddy from Sumer Sports, Sam Bruckhouse, stops but I
Speaker 2: will do a comprehensive NFL Draft preview with Sam our
Speaker 2: first guest. The Stanley Cup playoffs continue to be wildly entertaining.
Speaker 2: Utah Hockey Club has entered their off season phase. Neil
Speaker 2: Smith will stop by our weekly guest to talk pro
Speaker 2: hockey Christopher Camaraddie c K, Chris Camaradni from the Athletical
Speaker 2: role by we'll do a bunch of college football Chris today.
Speaker 1: Will RSL two, but we'll do some mutes and some.
Speaker 2: Cougars talk, some transfer portal and the natives are restless.
Speaker 2: I know you guys are arguing with each other online.
Speaker 2: My gentle advice to you would be sign off, take
Speaker 2: a walk and take a few deep breaths, maybe hydrate,
Speaker 2: take a nap, maybe a little non sleep deepressed.
Speaker 1: No big deal.
Speaker 2: So we'll bring in Ck today and then Patrick Manning.
Speaker 2: I haven't decided how I'm going to approach this interview today.
Speaker 2: Patrick Manning, who's one of the managing partners from the
Speaker 2: Black Desert Resorts, we'll stop by to do a little golf.
Speaker 1: They've got the OPGA coming up.
Speaker 2: Then of course the PGA coming up as well, And
Speaker 2: I haven't decided how heavily I'll lean into the fact
Speaker 2: that I can't get a tea time at Black Desert.
Speaker 2: Even when I inquired in February about a tea time
Speaker 2: for May the t she.
Speaker 1: Was already booked.
Speaker 2: So I haven't decided if I'm going to be nice
Speaker 2: to Patrick Manning today, I'm not gonna lie. That's a
Speaker 2: host being honest and vulnerable. Hopefully you guys see me
Speaker 2: and hear me on a Wednesday. That's all I want
Speaker 2: to be seen and heard order, that's all I want.
Speaker 2: Do you see me? Do you hear me?
Speaker 3: I hear you?
Speaker 1: Okay. I just want to be my authentic self on
Speaker 1: the radio.
Speaker 4: I just you know, I think if you want a
Speaker 4: tea time, the best approach would be to really butter
Speaker 4: them up, to really lean into playcating the managing partner
Speaker 4: of Black Desert.
Speaker 2: Resort, I called in February for a tea time. In May,
Speaker 2: what is this royal troon? Give me a break. It's
Speaker 2: the first year. No, it's not second year. Third it
Speaker 2: is the third year, full operations. Yeah, okay, and there's
Speaker 2: heavy demand as you demand. How's your Wednesday, pal? It's good,
Speaker 2: it's good.
Speaker 4: Halfway through the work week, we're we're.
Speaker 3: Over humpedday.
Speaker 4: But the NBA playoffs, Man, Once the NBA playoffs get going, Spence, obviously,
Speaker 4: the March madness college basketball gets gets me there. But
Speaker 4: once the NBA get playoffs get going, it it kind
Speaker 4: of reignites my hoops, love my hoops fandom. It's always there,
Speaker 4: but sometimes it goes dormant until we get some some
Speaker 4: postseason basketball. So I've been I've been a kidney candy
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Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun. Lebron looked awesome last night.
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke is the best player on that team now.
Speaker 2: But it's a great thing if you're a Laker fan.
Speaker 2: The Lebron can just do what he does and then
Speaker 2: not have all the pressure.
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about it on the show.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be a little NFL Draft heavy and some
Speaker 2: other stuff as well, so we'll.
Speaker 1: Start off with a little NBA.
Speaker 2: Our first guest will be Sam Bruckhouse's talk some NFL draft.
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Speaker 2: on Jackson Dart, the latest buzz on shud Or Sanders.
Speaker 1: Will Cleveland move off of two?
Speaker 2: There are reports that Cleveland actually kind of wants to
Speaker 2: draft Travis Hunter too and try to trade back you
Speaker 2: in the first round to take shad Or Sanders. Ben
Speaker 2: so Lack hopped on the show yesterday to discuss that
Speaker 2: the Giants at three are kind of a question mark.
Speaker 2: According to Adam Schefter, they are fielding calls. We'll bring
Speaker 2: in Sam Bruckhouse to see if he anticipates a busy
Speaker 2: draft day coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But the NFL Draft will be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: But last night, little playoff basketball right off the top here,
Speaker 2: the La Lakers came out with a much more physical,
Speaker 2: assertive mindset in the first quarter and essentially finished off
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves after about one and a half quarters.
Speaker 2: The Tea Wolves made a couple of runs, but nothing
Speaker 2: really ever that serious because the Lakers schematically changed up
Speaker 2: their approach. Give JJ, Give jj Read a lot of credit.
Speaker 2: This is JJ's first playoff series as an NBA head coach.
Speaker 1: He's realized kind of like.
Speaker 2: And we'll get into this a little bit with Golden
Speaker 2: State playing Houston tonight, and you know, Jazz fans, you're
Speaker 2: gonna crack a little smile here.
Speaker 1: The La Lakers.
Speaker 2: Are doing everything they can to put Rudy Gobert in
Speaker 2: compromising situations or put him on the bench altogether. I
Speaker 2: think JJ red has realized he can't play Jackson Hayes.
Speaker 2: Jackson Hayes as their starting center. He played nine minutes
Speaker 2: last night. He had a couple of just atrocious, dumb mistakes.
Speaker 2: He had five thousand, nine minutes, So the majority of
Speaker 2: the minutes went to Dorian Finney Smith and gave Vincent
Speaker 2: off the bench, and they kind of went with Lebron
Speaker 2: and Ruey Ruey Hatchamuras their two bigs, and you know,
Speaker 2: Lebron is no longer the best player in the league.
Speaker 2: He's no longer the best player on that team. But
Speaker 2: watching Lebron at this phase of his career continue to
Speaker 2: be cerebral about his approach and allocate energy when he
Speaker 2: needs to in the right moments is pretty remarkable. I'm
Speaker 2: not a Brady guy, you guys know that, I'm a
Speaker 2: Jets fan, But watching Brady into his early and mid
Speaker 2: forties continue to just outthink opponents, watching Lebron do this
Speaker 2: is pretty similar as he continues to advance an age.
Speaker 2: You know, I think Lebron will probably play for one
Speaker 2: more year. I think we have one more year of
Speaker 2: Lebron next year, But the way he looks right now,
Speaker 2: if he wanted to play for another two or three,
Speaker 2: probably could now. I think a lot of people around
Speaker 2: the league thought Lebron would play until the Lakers drafted
Speaker 2: Bronni and Lebron making sure his son is set up,
Speaker 2: and then would exit stage left. But twenty one points,
Speaker 2: eleven rebounds, seven assists, some great defensive possessions in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter from Lebron, But really last night was the
Speaker 2: case in point example as to why the Lakers and
Speaker 2: I'm laughing as I say this, because of course the
Speaker 2: Lakers wanted to trade for Luca as Nico Harrison continues
Speaker 2: to be this punching bag clown in pro basketball for
Speaker 2: moving on from this twenty five year old generational.
Speaker 1: Player and global superstar.
Speaker 2: Who dominated every facet of the game last night, right
Speaker 2: from jump. And that's what was great if you're a
Speaker 2: Laker fan last night. That's what they did not do
Speaker 2: in Game one. In Game one, Minnesota brought the physicality
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles, and they did not respond.
Speaker 1: Lebron didn't respond. Lebron didn't have a good Game one.
Speaker 2: Now, in Game one, Luca had a great scoring night,
Speaker 2: but he only had one assist because what Minnesota did
Speaker 2: is they allowed Luca to kind of get his as
Speaker 2: far as scoring the basketball, but they took away his
Speaker 2: ability to facilitate. They were kind of hedging on other
Speaker 2: players and they just said, okay, Luca, you go get yours,
Speaker 2: but we're going to make sure everybody else is kind
Speaker 2: of taken care of. So Austin Reeves had a really
Speaker 2: good second half, and like I said, JJ rehddick, give
Speaker 2: him some credit for making some adjustments. Golden State is
Speaker 2: going to have to play small to beat Houston. We'll
Speaker 2: get into that a little bit later on. And I
Speaker 2: think JJ Reddick has realized that the best way to
Speaker 2: neutralize Minnesota is to make sure that Rudy Gobert is
Speaker 2: either on the bench or when he's in the game.
Speaker 2: They are hunting him explicitly, specifically the Luca Gobert matchup.
Speaker 2: So on offense, what the Lakers would do is they
Speaker 2: would bring up you know, say Rudy was guarding Ruy
Speaker 2: Hatchamura or Jackson Hayes in his nine minutes, whoever Rudy
Speaker 2: was guarding, would set the primary screen on Luca's defender,
Speaker 2: and then they would force the switch. So then it
Speaker 2: was Rudy trying to guard Luca at isolation. And look,
Speaker 2: there are moments where Rudy handles that well. And if
Speaker 2: you're a Jazz fan, you remember all the we would
Speaker 2: have with national guys who had come on the show
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, Quinn's gotta sit Rudy. He can't
Speaker 2: play like he's bad in isolation. And the reason why
Speaker 2: that debate was flawed here is that the Jazz just
Speaker 2: did not have a good defensive team around Gobert.
Speaker 1: They had a lot of small guards.
Speaker 2: Their starting backcourt was Donovan Mitchell at sixty three and
Speaker 2: Mike Conley at six feet, and then their best wing
Speaker 2: defender was Royce O'Neil, who, if we're honest, was just
Speaker 2: acceptable as a wing defender.
Speaker 1: But all the other wing defenders were so horrible.
Speaker 2: We talked about Royce O'Neil like he was Bruce Bowen
Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety nine, and he just wasn't. So here,
Speaker 2: Rudy had to play big minutes no matter what the
Speaker 2: other team did because the Jazz didn't have a good
Speaker 2: enough defensive team around him. Chris Finch can afford to
Speaker 2: sit Gobert against the Lakers because he has a really
Speaker 2: good backup in nas Reed, and quite frankly, I think
Speaker 2: Chris Finch probably could have should have Sacobar longer.
Speaker 1: Last night.
Speaker 2: Nas Reed only played twenty one minutes after playing I
Speaker 2: think thirty seven. Game one, three of eight from the floor,
Speaker 2: nine points. I think he knocked down five threees. Game one,
Speaker 2: Minnesota didn't shoot well, is a really weird ant game.
Speaker 2: He didn't really get involved until the second half and
Speaker 2: is only twenty three. You know, he needs to evolve
Speaker 2: to this place if he's gonna be like the next
Speaker 2: generation great American superstar. He's got to play with more
Speaker 2: killer instinct when a game like that is on the line, because, yes,
Speaker 2: you got your split, and as they say, if you're
Speaker 2: the road team, you got two games to get one.
Speaker 2: So if you're Minnesota, you're going back to Target and
Speaker 2: you're pretty satisfied. But if Minnesota beat LA last night,
Speaker 2: history tells us like they're basically cooked. And I was
Speaker 2: pretty unimpressed with Minnesota's urgency. I didn't think they played
Speaker 2: near as hard as they did in game one. They
Speaker 2: played like a team to me that was satisfied with
Speaker 2: getting split and going home. So Target Center, you know,
Speaker 2: Game three, and now this series is a deadlocked to
Speaker 2: one game apiece. Real quick Pacers, bucks Man. I'm sure
Speaker 2: a lot of people out here aren't necessarily dialed in.
Speaker 1: Maybe Dame Lillard fans are.
Speaker 2: These two teams don't like each other, and it feels
Speaker 2: something personal between Tyrese Halliburton and Dame Lillard. So Dame
Speaker 2: comes back to play his first game I think since
Speaker 2: mid March, and he was only four or thirteen. He
Speaker 2: did have seven assists, fourteen points. Bobby Ports is really
Speaker 2: good off the bench. Giannis is just Giannis. But Indiana
Speaker 2: and their coach Rick Carlisle, I mean, that is a
Speaker 2: good team.
Speaker 1: It's well balanced.
Speaker 2: They've got a pit bull off the bench and Benedict
Speaker 2: Mather and they've got a lot of physical players that
Speaker 2: are not afraid to get up on you the perimeter.
Speaker 2: And we saw some pretty salty moments last night in
Speaker 2: this series. If you're not watching it, it's kind of
Speaker 2: intriguing because these two teams clearly do not like each other.
Speaker 2: I don't have anything to say about Okay, see grizz
Speaker 2: That series is going to be over in four, and honestly,
Speaker 2: I wish he was over in three. I'll just continue
Speaker 2: to say I'm so wildly impressed with the roster that
Speaker 2: Sam Presty has built and the job that Mark Dagnold
Speaker 2: has done. They go ten deep in the playoffs, and
Speaker 2: all ten of these players can play, and even the
Speaker 2: players in aren't getting minutes can all play. Dylan Jones,
Speaker 2: local kid, Kenrick Williams, aj Mitchell didn't get minutes last night,
Speaker 2: but they're all capable. Alex Crusoe, Aln Williams, Isaiah Joe,
Speaker 2: Aaron Wiggins, Case and Wallace like, all these dudes can play,
Speaker 2: and they play high level basketball. And if you're a
Speaker 2: Jazz fan, the one thing to look at here is
Speaker 2: that if you can build a jugger and hut juggernout
Speaker 2: like this in Oklahoma City, any narrative about not being
Speaker 2: able to do that in Salt Lake needs to be
Speaker 2: thrown out the window. We take a lot of heat
Speaker 2: as far as where we live, in the market where
Speaker 2: our teams exist. If you've ever been to Oklahoma City,
Speaker 2: you know that Salt Lake is probably superior in every
Speaker 2: single way. So if Sam Presty can do this at Okasee,
Speaker 2: they can get it done over with the Jazz in
Speaker 2: salt Lake.
Speaker 1: All Right, we will catch a break.
Speaker 2: We'll get back to this because I do want to
Speaker 2: talk a little Golden State Houston tonight. There's some parallels
Speaker 2: to draw between what the Lakers have to do and
Speaker 2: what I think Golden State has to do as well
Speaker 2: what Steve Kurr digging game wants.
Speaker 1: So we'll get back to some NBA in a little bit.
Speaker 2: But it is the day before the NFL Draft, Christmas
Speaker 2: Eve for football fans. Our next guest is a good
Speaker 2: front of the show from Sumer Sports. It's always fun
Speaker 2: to welcome in Sam Bruckhouse onto the program on a
Speaker 2: Wednesday afternoon. Sam, Happy Wednesday, Man, how you doing.
Speaker 6: I'm doing good. We're what less than a round twenty
Speaker 6: four hours until the NFL Draft, and people still have
Speaker 6: no idea what's going to happen. So I'm super excited
Speaker 6: to be on the Summer Sports Show tomorrow on YouTube
Speaker 6: on the Summer Sports platforms, and super excited to talk
Speaker 6: about the draft right now.
Speaker 2: For sure, Man, I appreciate the time. But before we
Speaker 2: get into the draft, my producer informs me, as you know,
Speaker 2: we are the home the University of Utah. We are
Speaker 2: broadcasting well about a mile mile and a half away
Speaker 2: from Resco Stadium. We had our spring game on Saturday,
Speaker 2: and so you fans kind of got their first look
Speaker 2: at Devin Dampier. I wonder what you make of the
Speaker 2: new quarterback here in Salt Lake City? What should you
Speaker 2: fans know?
Speaker 6: Look, so, when we were grinding through the transport portal,
Speaker 6: Devin Dampier was someone who really popped up as a
Speaker 6: guy who may have an ability to make a major
Speaker 6: impact at the P five level. And I'm glad he
Speaker 6: went to Utah because this guy has a superpower, and
Speaker 6: rarely in college do we see guys at the G
Speaker 6: five level have a absolute superpower that is better than
Speaker 6: everyone else, and that will almost surely translate to the
Speaker 6: next level. Using frame by frame analysis, which means we're
Speaker 6: looking at every single millisecond of a play, we noticed
Speaker 6: that Devin Dampier is one of the best sack avoids
Speaker 6: in the NCAA, and I would expect.
Speaker 7: Him to continue to be so at Utah.
Speaker 6: What does that mean? Think about the Denver Broncos for example.
Speaker 6: This year, a lot of people had a lot of
Speaker 6: questions about bo Nix, but Sean Payton kept saying over
Speaker 6: and over again that this was a guy who avoided
Speaker 6: negative plays, and a lot of people who had watched
Speaker 6: him at Auburn, for example, didn't know what he was
Speaker 6: talking about. He came in and he was absolutely elite
Speaker 6: at avoiding sacks and that allowed that offense to get
Speaker 6: the offensive line going, the screen game going, Guys like
Speaker 6: Devon Veley going at the wide receiver position. If Devin
Speaker 6: Dampier is able to translate that one hundredth percentile sack avoidance,
Speaker 6: and you can even go look at the number of
Speaker 6: sacks that he had, they were so minimal, especially for
Speaker 6: a small player. I think that there's really going to
Speaker 6: be a special sauce to the Utah offense this year,
Speaker 6: which I was really excited to come on here and
Speaker 6: talk about.
Speaker 1: Love that.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you one follow up question, because his
Speaker 2: numbers last year at New Mexico on the ground were
Speaker 2: elite from the quarterback position, but he had twelve touchdown
Speaker 2: passes and twelve picks through the air, And I don't know, Sam,
Speaker 2: if he's going to be able to duplicate his ground
Speaker 2: attack as he translates to the Big twelve, but through
Speaker 2: the air with his arm twelve touchdowns, twelve picks in
Speaker 2: a lesser division, if I could be kind and not
Speaker 2: being disrespectful, does that concern you about what he'll be
Speaker 2: able to do against Big twelve competition week in and
Speaker 2: week out.
Speaker 6: So it's an excellent point, and I think further analysis
Speaker 6: is needed, especially once he gets in a youth jersey,
Speaker 6: about what those interceptions mean. And given he was a guy,
Speaker 6: as you mentioned, in the team that was not superpowered
Speaker 6: and overchieved a little bit, I wonder how much that
Speaker 6: comes from the surrounding cast.
Speaker 7: For example, he was doing a lot.
Speaker 6: Of running around behind a poor offensive line, trying to
Speaker 6: avoid sacks and just trying to make plays. My expectation
Speaker 6: is as he adds a little bit more structure, his
Speaker 6: accuracy will increase, his decision making will increase, and it'll
Speaker 6: keep playing off the back of those eliminating negative plays
Speaker 6: on a play by play basis through his sacavoidance, and
Speaker 6: then the negative plays through the air, which you know
Speaker 6: typically are a little bit more random and frankly, especially
Speaker 6: if they're on third or fourth down when you're just
Speaker 6: trying to make a play, don't kill you as much
Speaker 6: as a first down sack would. We're going to see
Speaker 6: more consistency in his play. That's something very key to
Speaker 6: look at in weeks one and two, and I'll report
Speaker 6: back to y'all on what we end up seeing about
Speaker 6: his accuracy and decision making scores. But those definitely have
Speaker 6: to be improved, but I think they will on a
Speaker 6: more talented youth team.
Speaker 1: Love it, Sam, good stuff. We'll move over the draft.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: It's an exciting time for pro football fans, and we
Speaker 2: are the home of the NFL Draft here on Salt Lake.
Speaker 2: Have it on our radio station and We'll start with
Speaker 2: what is probably an easy question, but because I've been
Speaker 2: doing this for a long time, I know that sometimes
Speaker 2: smoke screens are sent out. Does it feel like it's
Speaker 2: just a consensus that Tennessee is going cam Ward? Is
Speaker 2: there any any sort of injury at the top.
Speaker 6: It feels like it's lock tight. You look at the
Speaker 6: betting markets, you look at the prediction markets. Feels like
Speaker 6: that's the way that they will go. The only way
Speaker 6: that I think this could get shaken up a little
Speaker 6: bit is if someone just absolutely gives them a godfather offer.
Speaker 6: For one, here's a quick little note. A lot of
Speaker 6: people have said that cam Ward would have gone quarterback four,
Speaker 6: five six last year. That indicates to me that he
Speaker 6: has what scouts call a green grade on him. So
Speaker 6: he's not a blue chip player. And if that's the
Speaker 6: expectation as well, you look at the data in some
Speaker 6: of the consensus mock draft, typically Shador Sanders is more
Speaker 6: in that ten to twenty spots below him. That would
Speaker 6: also indicate that Shador Sanders or Jackson Dart or some
Speaker 6: of these guys may also have a green grade. If
Speaker 6: that is true, the Titans have a green grade on
Speaker 6: them and maybe have a green grade on somebody else.
Speaker 6: It would indicate that if someone gave them a god
Speaker 6: father offer for one, you probably would take that and
Speaker 6: expect that you get another quarterback down the line. I
Speaker 6: think that's extremely low probability for the Titans, because you
Speaker 6: know they can just go ahead and take them Before
Speaker 6: a team like the Browns or the Giants, or the
Speaker 6: Jaguars or even the Raiders for example, that may mean
Speaker 6: a ton, especially given some of those teams need quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: So I think the Titans are selecting cam Ward. I
Speaker 6: think that calculus about trading back applies a lot more
Speaker 6: to the Browns the Giants than the other teams.
Speaker 2: Now, I'll ask a follow up if they go cam Ward, Sam,
Speaker 2: do you agree with the selection?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's the right move?
Speaker 6: I think it is. I think that really all three
Speaker 6: of the teams at the top should be considering a
Speaker 6: quarterback selection. The positional value of the quarterback is just
Speaker 6: so much more more than every position that it kind
Speaker 6: of indicates that if you have a premium pick, you
Speaker 6: should either select a quarterback or try to drum up
Speaker 6: as much demand in the trade market for a team
Speaker 6: that does need a quarterback so that they can go
Speaker 6: up and get him and you can get some value elsewhere.
Speaker 6: That's the old school, nihilistic data scientist view on it. Obviously,
Speaker 6: there's more in play. There's politics, there's divisional rivalries, there's
Speaker 6: the reality of who you have on your roster, and
Speaker 6: so there's all kinds of other dynamics that go into it.
Speaker 8: But that's what I view.
Speaker 6: I think it's probably the correct pick.
Speaker 2: Andrew Berry, Brown's general manager, came out and said they
Speaker 2: view Travis Santra primarily as a wide receiver, but also
Speaker 2: had some other things to say that led a lot
Speaker 2: of people to draw a straight line between his comments
Speaker 2: and yes, that's who they're taking. And as you reference
Speaker 2: a bunch of reports that they're also feeling calls at two.
Speaker 2: But I guess if we're in a space where it
Speaker 2: feels like it consensus that one that cam is off
Speaker 2: the board, it starts at two, what do you think
Speaker 2: the Browns do?
Speaker 6: So as it stands now, I think they go with
Speaker 6: Travis Hunter. I think that Travis Hunter is certified the
Speaker 6: only can't miss prospect in this draft. When you look
Speaker 6: at those same frame by frame, millisecond by millisecond AI
Speaker 6: grades that we at Summer Sports called Summer scores. He's
Speaker 6: elite both in coverage and receiving. Frankly, you're never going
Speaker 6: to probably see that ever.
Speaker 9: Again.
Speaker 6: I think Travis Hunter is the only can't miss prospect,
Speaker 6: and I think they're fine if they go ahead and
Speaker 6: select them. But here's a note. As I said, the
Speaker 6: positional value at those positions is not the same as
Speaker 6: the quarterback position by definition. I don't even think they're
Speaker 6: actually betting on their evaluation of a guy like Shador
Speaker 6: Sanders or like Jackson Dart. I think they are solely
Speaker 6: betting on their availability models. There's only a couple of
Speaker 6: teams that really need quarterbacks. It seems like the Giants
Speaker 6: aren't interested. It seems like the Saints are not interested.
Speaker 6: And if their models are showing that, perhaps they can
Speaker 6: wait until they're pick at thirty three to get a quarterback.
Speaker 6: I think they may go ahead roll the dice, pick
Speaker 6: Travis Hunter, positional value to the wind, and start playing
Speaker 6: a little game of roulette quarterback Roulette, and hope that
Speaker 6: Shador Sanders or whatever quarterback they like. Very analytical organization,
Speaker 6: the Browns are, I believe they're doing a lot of
Speaker 6: research into consensus big boards and into their scouting grades
Speaker 6: as well. It'd be difficult for me to believe, just
Speaker 6: given what is public, that they have anyone else other
Speaker 6: than Shador Sanders at two. So I think they're really
Speaker 6: rolling the dice and seeing if they can get a
Speaker 6: quarterback down the line in the late first, trading back
Speaker 6: in a late first, or in the second round.
Speaker 2: Every time Travis is asked about his NFL future, he's
Speaker 2: very specific about his desire to play on both sides
Speaker 2: of the ball.
Speaker 1: How do you think the Browns use him? What do
Speaker 1: you think that looks like?
Speaker 6: Look, I think you got to do it, and I
Speaker 6: think in the data sphere you just want more information.
Speaker 6: And when you have a player who can play both
Speaker 6: sides of the ball, let the snaps tell you where
Speaker 6: he's best at. I think you got to play him
Speaker 6: on both sides while he's still young, because if you
Speaker 6: have someone who can contribute on both sides, that's literally
Speaker 6: of one of one, maybe one of the best players
Speaker 6: of all time. By year three, perhaps he might be
Speaker 6: able to go just three years, and if he does that,
Speaker 6: he may be a Hall of Famer right there. If not,
Speaker 6: you can simply just stop playing him on defense or
Speaker 6: stop playing on him on offense, and he can still
Speaker 6: be an elite player on either side of the ball.
Speaker 6: I am of the mind personally that you just get
Speaker 6: all the information you can as quick as possible and
Speaker 6: let him do both, all right?
Speaker 2: Going to number three now, as you referenced earlier, a
Speaker 2: lot of conversation about the Giants also fielding calls. And
Speaker 2: it's interesting because the Giants are one of those teams
Speaker 2: and Sam, as I've told you before, I'm a lifelong,
Speaker 2: suffering fan of the New York Jets, and we'll get there.
Speaker 2: But when you have as many holes as the Giants have,
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you just go out dual Carter. Maybe
Speaker 2: you don't think about it. There's some noise about Shador.
Speaker 2: They were out this way. The Giants were out in
Speaker 2: Colorado watching should or work out last week. But I
Speaker 2: would completely understand if they wanted to trade down and
Speaker 2: then get a devy more pitch to try to fill
Speaker 2: a bunch of holes.
Speaker 1: But what do you think the New York Giants do
Speaker 1: at number three?
Speaker 6: So first I think they evaluate their team. Abdul Carter
Speaker 6: will be the best player on the board, at least
Speaker 6: as the consensus is concerned.
Speaker 7: Here's an interesting bit.
Speaker 6: About the Giants. So they had one of the better
Speaker 6: fronts in the league last year, excellent sacrate, Brian Burns
Speaker 6: played well when he was healthy, Dexter Lawrence played well,
Speaker 6: o'kare Ka played pretty well at the linebacker position, and
Speaker 6: they had Kevan Thibodeau who played all right. You know,
Speaker 6: he's one of the better defensive end two's in the league.
Speaker 6: And so I think that's where the analysis starts coming in.
Speaker 6: If you look at the expected value for an edge, Historically,
Speaker 6: for defensive ends, it's really about around Kavan Thibodeau, So
Speaker 6: you probably have in terms of expected value. Again, maybe
Speaker 6: they know a little bit more than me, but I'm
Speaker 6: just looking at the historicals. You have two players that
Speaker 6: you can project over the next two or three years
Speaker 6: to be pretty similar in terms of production. One will
Speaker 6: be much cheaper than the other, but there's a much
Speaker 6: more uncertainty when it comes to drafting a player. So
Speaker 6: here's the gamble that they're going to make. If they
Speaker 6: take Abdol Carter. They're basically saying we would rather this
Speaker 6: year have three good edg rushers and the next year
Speaker 6: let Kavan Thibodeau walk and have a cheaper version, again
Speaker 6: on average than Kevan Thibodeau, if they decide to go
Speaker 6: elsewhere trade back. They're basically saying, we know what Kevan
Speaker 6: Thibodeau is, there's not a ton of uncertainty there, and
Speaker 6: we would rather recoup value and we don't really know
Speaker 6: if we're ready to compete. Maybe we don't know if
Speaker 6: Abdol Carter will make us a winning team. Either one,
Speaker 6: and I think both of those options are fairly clear.
Speaker 6: I think you probably lean to the more conservative way
Speaker 6: to do it if I'm the Giants, which would be
Speaker 6: selecting Carter as one of the best players in the draft.
Speaker 6: But I, as an analyst, would certainly, you know, fight
Speaker 6: hard for trading back and trying to get more value
Speaker 6: because I just don't know how much Abdol Carter is
Speaker 6: going to help this team become a playoff team.
Speaker 2: So a little bit of a non sequorer here, but
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you because we are high speed ahead.
Speaker 2: We're about, let's see, twenty six hours and fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: away from the draft, and zero trades have been made
Speaker 2: involving first round picks, which isn't isn't all that normal.
Speaker 2: Typically there at least been, you know, a dealer or
Speaker 2: two by now. Are you anticipating a busy night concerning
Speaker 2: the trade market?
Speaker 1: You think we're going to see a lot of movement.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones came out yesterday.
Speaker 2: They've got number twelve and they've got ten picks, and
Speaker 2: he's I don't know, maybe he's just Jerry being Jerry,
Speaker 2: but he said, they're trying to make a bunch of deals.
Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to see a lot of
Speaker 1: trades go down tomorrow?
Speaker 6: So I think there's two items that are really good,
Speaker 6: or really three. I guess there's three items that are
Speaker 6: probably going to control this. Number one, what happens with
Speaker 6: the quarterbacks. If if the Browns don't select a quarterback
Speaker 6: and the Giant don't select a quarterback, I think the
Speaker 6: heat is going to be on teams that either want
Speaker 6: to trade back in like the Giants or the Browns,
Speaker 6: or teams like the Steelers who sit at twenty one
Speaker 6: and may not be able to wait to get a quarterback.
Speaker 6: So I think that's option one that could be probably one,
Speaker 6: maybe two in the back half of the first round.
Speaker 6: If people start getting hot on a guy like Jackson Dark.
Speaker 6: That could potentially be two trades, and on average draft
Speaker 6: day there's typically about three to five trades, so I'm
Speaker 6: trying to fill this up in my head. The second
Speaker 6: item Ashjin genty. People have him as one of the
Speaker 6: best running back prospects in years. I've been hearing a
Speaker 6: lot of noise about James Gladstone and the Jaguars selecting
Speaker 6: him at five. I think that may be smoke, and
Speaker 6: I think if we get around five, a team who
Speaker 6: really wants to go get a running back, thinks they
Speaker 6: have the offensive line to support it and think they
Speaker 6: can have a Saquon Barkley or Jamier Gibbs like player
Speaker 6: may want to go ahead and trade up to five
Speaker 6: before a team like the Raiders in particular could use them.
Speaker 6: A team like the Bears certainly seem like they could
Speaker 6: use them. I think that's probably a third trade. And
Speaker 6: then finally, in the middle of the rounds, I think
Speaker 6: a lot of people are going to get excited about
Speaker 6: edge rushers and tackles. Not a lot of guys who
Speaker 6: are certified edge rushers and tackles will be selected in
Speaker 6: rounds two and three. I think as you get to
Speaker 6: the middle to the end, you'll start seeing some of
Speaker 6: the teams that performed really well, like the Commanders, the Eagles,
Speaker 6: the Bills trade out of their spots to allow teams
Speaker 6: that need tackles or need edge rushers back into the
Speaker 6: first round, and then they'll snag their guys there. So
Speaker 6: that's kind of my expectation to the three to five
Speaker 6: trades that could happen, starting at about five with Ashton
Speaker 6: gent getting into the back half of the top ten
Speaker 6: with the quarterbacks, and then finally throughout the middle talking
Speaker 6: about jumping back in to kind of reach on a
Speaker 6: quarterback or select an edge or offensive tackle. I think
Speaker 6: that's the way it's going to break down.
Speaker 2: Jackson Dhard played his high school football about eighteen nineteen
Speaker 2: miles as the crow flies from where we're you know,
Speaker 2: it's been fun to watch him kind of evol throughout
Speaker 2: his career after starting at SC and then transferre to
Speaker 2: a miss good kid, good family, certainly a guy that
Speaker 2: is getting a lot of attention depending on who you
Speaker 2: asked or you talked to, Nobody really knows where he'll go.
Speaker 2: But what's the buzz on Jackson Dart and what's a
Speaker 2: good fit for him?
Speaker 6: Sam here's the summary. If he hits his first read,
Speaker 6: he's going to be immensely productive after that, which you
Speaker 6: can go check this on Summer sports dot com. We
Speaker 6: have it color coded to show you where he ranks
Speaker 6: among players in the NCUBA last year after that first read.
Speaker 6: He loves to scramble. One of the highest scramble rates
Speaker 6: in the NCUBA last year. And also he was very productive,
Speaker 6: one of the highest EPA expected points added per rush
Speaker 6: guys last year. The problem is you can do that
Speaker 6: in college. Really difficult to do that at the next level.
Speaker 6: When you got Miles Garrett, when you got some of
Speaker 6: these Eagles rushers, Durrance Armstrong, Michael Parsons, all these excellent
Speaker 6: edge dreshers pearing after you at four or five speed,
Speaker 6: you don't really see that game the game in college.
Speaker 6: Really difficult to rely on the scrambling that much. Now,
Speaker 6: we saw Jaden Daniels do that pretty well last year,
Speaker 6: even though his profile changed a little bit as he
Speaker 6: settled into that offense. But that's a real real question
Speaker 6: mark for Jackson dark. I think settling in with an
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator who puts him in a place to succeed,
Speaker 6: particularly on those first and second reads, which then further
Speaker 6: allows him to develop down the line. Is something that's good,
Speaker 6: and frankly, I don't know if it's the best fit.
Speaker 6: I'm a Saints fan. I think Shedor Sanders is probably
Speaker 6: a better prospect in terms of accuracy this year. But
Speaker 6: it makes sense for a guy like Kellen Moore, who
Speaker 6: had Jalen Hurts last year with a very similar background,
Speaker 6: a guy who wanted to hit his first read, especially
Speaker 6: given that was aj Brown and Devonte Smith, and then
Speaker 6: he was going to use his legs to make plays
Speaker 6: and that took him all the way to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Even though they're passing offense did struggle coached by Kellen Moore.
Speaker 6: It appears that the Saints are interested in Jackson Dart.
Speaker 6: I could see that being a pairing that makes sense,
Speaker 6: even though it might break my little Saints van heart
Speaker 6: fair enough.
Speaker 2: And since you brought up Shadoor, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: buzz around Shador of course, because of well, he's really
Speaker 2: good and also he's Shador Sanders. He's De'on's kid, and
Speaker 2: obviously we are a Pac twelve former Pac twelve Market
Speaker 2: now Big twelve Market in Colorado is a school that
Speaker 2: we're all familiar with, and we've seen Shador and Travis
Speaker 2: up close. So you reference the Saints, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of noise Saints at nine if he doesn't go off
Speaker 2: the board of nine to the Saints. Are we in
Speaker 2: danger of watching this kid fall?
Speaker 6: I think we are. I'm putting together my mock draft
Speaker 6: tonight for tomorrow. I think I'm going to have him
Speaker 6: dropping a little bit again. I don't think this is
Speaker 6: necessarily a showing of his evaluation in our data. He's
Speaker 6: one of the most accurate quarterbacks in recent memory all
Speaker 6: across the and we've confirmed that on my Draft INNSM
Speaker 6: podcast with a couple of guys who chart every single
Speaker 6: throw eye test scouts. They understand that he's immensely accurate
Speaker 6: as well. Downside is sacks and the opposite of Devin
Speaker 6: Dampier when we talked at at the top. Those down
Speaker 6: to down sacks can really kill drives. As a result,
Speaker 6: I think the drop, frankly is probably occurring more due
Speaker 6: to the huffing and hawing about the Horts and Pony
Speaker 6: Show coming to town and Sanders talking real out and
Speaker 6: all this stuff. I don't like all that. I don't
Speaker 6: think it shows anything about his evaluation. I get upset
Speaker 6: that he's probably dropping for that reason. Do I understand
Speaker 6: it because of the politics.
Speaker 7: Maybe so, but it is what it is.
Speaker 6: I think the Steelers at twenty one are probably the
Speaker 6: red zones for him, but I could see us being
Speaker 6: shocked of him maybe being selected third or someone trying
Speaker 6: to jump up if people start getting a little antsy
Speaker 6: about getting a quarterback in the first round.
Speaker 2: Hi, Sam, With the remaining a few minutes we have,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you about team teams specifically. We are
Speaker 2: a market without an NFL team, but we are a
Speaker 2: market with a lot of NFL fans, and it depends
Speaker 2: on you know, there are pockets of fans of the
Speaker 2: Broncos because of the proximity.
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you about the Niners.
Speaker 2: We have a lot of Niners fans here and that's
Speaker 2: really because of Steve Young, who played his college ball
Speaker 2: at Brigham Young and a lot of people continue to
Speaker 2: cheer for san Fran here in the market.
Speaker 1: And it's a big draft for them.
Speaker 2: They've got to think, what like eleven picks, and they've
Speaker 2: got number eleven in the first round. So how do
Speaker 2: you think san Fran approaches this draft process and what
Speaker 2: are the holes they need to plug.
Speaker 6: So going into this, I thought a hidden need of
Speaker 6: theirs might actually be the quarterback position. Brock Perty has
Speaker 6: said that he wants to be the highest paid guy,
Speaker 6: or at least very close to it, and we've seen
Speaker 6: them move on from Jimmy Garoppolo in the past. I
Speaker 6: thought maybe that was a hidden need for them. It
Speaker 6: seems as if they're working that deal out. No big
Speaker 6: news has come out, but it seems like he's going
Speaker 6: to go to OTAs. So I think in the face
Speaker 6: of that, in the face of him getting a deal, well,
Speaker 6: you probably want to rebuild that offensive line. They let
Speaker 6: Aaron Banks go last year. I think they want to
Speaker 6: have Christian McCaffrey in a spot to succeed as he
Speaker 6: begins to age, and perhaps invest in a good offensive
Speaker 6: lineman Kelvin Banks. I think if he's available, makes a
Speaker 6: lot of sense there. There's going to be a ton
Speaker 6: more offensive lineman the first, second, and third rounds that.
Speaker 9: Perhaps they could go grab.
Speaker 6: But also on the flip side, I think adding a
Speaker 6: second edge rusher could be a good use of resources.
Speaker 8: They've lost a lot.
Speaker 6: Frankly, they've cut a lot from that team, a lot
Speaker 6: of I guess you could say fat as they viewed it.
Speaker 6: They let go in free agency, so there's a bunch
Speaker 6: of different spots that can go. But I expect offensive
Speaker 6: line to be the highest probability, even though there's a
Speaker 6: lot of other places that could be addressed.
Speaker 2: I mentioned the Broncos, and for the first time in
Speaker 2: a while, Bronco fans have a reason to be optimistic
Speaker 2: after the rookie season with bo Nicks. They get all
Speaker 2: of their offensive lineman back, including former Yuke Arett Bowles,
Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton, Marvin Mims who emerged as a wide receiver
Speaker 2: to come back as well. Feels like running back might
Speaker 2: be something they look at. They've got seven picks, including
Speaker 2: twenty in the first round. Not twenty picks in the
Speaker 2: first round, that would be ridiculous. They have number twenty.
Speaker 1: But what do you think? What do you think Denver
Speaker 1: does throughout this draft process.
Speaker 6: I think the target is running back, and I think
Speaker 6: the target is a pass catching running back. Here's the question, though,
Speaker 6: me as an analyst, would recommend that they go with
Speaker 6: a premium position in the first round. If you draft
Speaker 6: a guy in the first round, who's a running back,
Speaker 6: you better expect that he's going to be a top ten,
Speaker 6: top five player. That's a lot to ask given the
Speaker 6: historicals on the draft. However, looking at the specific running backs,
Speaker 6: this is believed to be an excellent running back class.
Speaker 6: A lot of people think it's between Omaron Hampton and
Speaker 6: Trey Henderson. I think Omarion Hampton is probably the better runner.
Speaker 6: I have questions about his pass protection ability and his
Speaker 6: receiving ability. Trayveon Henderson maybe less of a runner, carried
Speaker 6: less of a workload last year sharing the field with
Speaker 6: Quinn Shawn Junkins at Ohio State, but has a better
Speaker 6: pass blocking pedigree and a better pass catching pedigree. I
Speaker 6: think it's probably going to be between those guys. I'm
Speaker 6: leaning Trevon Henderson right now.
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs their head coach Andy Reid byu alum
Speaker 2: and you know, obviously this is a team that doesn't
Speaker 2: necessarily have the same amount of worries that some others do.
Speaker 2: They're still going to be in the mix as they
Speaker 2: are every year with fifteen hunderd center. They have eight picks,
Speaker 2: they have number thirty one in the first round. What
Speaker 2: do you think Kansas City needs to come away with
Speaker 2: during this draft process.
Speaker 6: I think they got to address the left side of
Speaker 6: that line. Joe Tooney is now a Chicago Bear, a
Speaker 6: lot of questions at the left tackle position. They drafted
Speaker 6: Kingsley suing Matia last year to try to be that guy.
Speaker 6: Seems like it didn't work out. Perhaps he'll start at
Speaker 6: left guard this year. We're able to get a guy
Speaker 6: from the forty nine ers, but it seems like they're
Speaker 6: going into this year with two backups last year at
Speaker 6: the left guard and left tackle position. Luckily, they're in
Speaker 6: a spot where they should be able to snag a
Speaker 6: guy that could be a tackle, particularly if there's some fallers.
Speaker 6: But like I mentioned, expect trades up four tackles. I
Speaker 6: think they may be in that zone. They did it
Speaker 6: last year to try to grab Xavier Worthy. I wouldn't
Speaker 6: be shocked if they trade up to grab a guy
Speaker 6: like Simmons out Ohio State, the tackle, Josh Connerley, the
Speaker 6: tackle out of Oregon, or maybe even a guy like
Speaker 6: Gray's Abel, a swing guy who played tackle in North
Speaker 6: Dakota State but will probably project to be a guard
Speaker 6: at the next level. I'd expect that to be the
Speaker 6: thought process, perhaps trading up to try to get a
Speaker 6: certified tackle at the next level.
Speaker 2: All right, before I set you loose, This didn't used
Speaker 2: to be the case. But proximity wise, the closest pro
Speaker 2: football team of Salt Lake City now resides in Las
Speaker 2: Vegas with the Raiders and Pete Carroll their new head coach.
Speaker 2: I feel like every time I read a Raiders draft primer,
Speaker 2: it's all about Ashton Genty. But of course they may
Speaker 2: need to trade up if they're going to grab them.
Speaker 2: But they do have six and they've got I think
Speaker 2: nine total picks. What are the Raiders need to come
Speaker 2: away with from this draft?
Speaker 6: Pro As I mentioned, I think gent anywhere, Really, any
Speaker 6: running back in the first round could be a reach.
Speaker 6: I think if you're going to reach, it would be Genty.
Speaker 7: I question their defensive backfield.
Speaker 6: I think Will Johnson could be the answer, even though
Speaker 6: he's beginning to have injury rumors as of late. And
Speaker 6: I think really they could address a whole suite of things.
Speaker 6: Wide receiver could be an example. Maybe pet McMillan falls
Speaker 6: to them. Five and six. Jaguars and Raiders is a
Speaker 6: big question mark for me right now. I'm trying to
Speaker 6: figure it out. I'm trying to evaluate all the data,
Speaker 6: but it seems like Pet McMillan, Ashton Gent or perhaps
Speaker 6: you know a cornerback like Will Johnson, is the direction
Speaker 6: that they should go right now?
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, where can people go? Get all your work?
Speaker 1: And obviously you'll be busy over the next four or
Speaker 1: five days.
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Speaker 2: All right, the Stanley Cup playoffs roll along. We're going
Speaker 2: to bring a Neil Smith coming up during the three
Speaker 2: o'clock hour. Chris Comrodnie Patrick manning a busy, busy show.
Speaker 2: But before we catch a break, we welcome in Jeff
Speaker 2: Fox from Pure Life Medic on a Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Jeff, how are you, sir?
Speaker 10: Doing great?
Speaker 9: How are you well?
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time.
Speaker 2: So Pure Life Medical, you guys provide several services for people,
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Speaker 1: Jeff, how does stem cell therapy work?
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, this is one of the great things. It's
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Speaker 11: So stem cells are basically used for people with either
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Speaker 2: Jeff, how do you know if you need or if
Speaker 2: you could benefit from stem cell therapy.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think there's a number of groups that'll be
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Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, how can people go about getting the consultation.
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Speaker 12: This is Neil Smith, former president and GM of the
Speaker 12: New York Rangers and the New York Islanders. Join me
Speaker 12: and my co host Vic Morn for our podcast NHL
Speaker 12: Wrap Around for all the important news and views around
Speaker 12: the NHL.
Speaker 2: I'll get to the NBA stuff later on with the
Speaker 2: playoffs rowing along do little Golf with Patrick Manning. But
Speaker 2: the NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs are going on right now.
Speaker 2: It's an off season for the Utah Hockey Club, so
Speaker 2: we'll bring in Neil Smith on a Wednesday afternoon to
Speaker 2: break it all down.
Speaker 1: Neil, Happy Wednesday, sir.
Speaker 9: How are you happy Wednesday? I'm doing well, Thanks Spence.
Speaker 9: How about you?
Speaker 1: I'm great. I'm great. So is this time of year
Speaker 1: put a little wind in your sales?
Speaker 2: I mean, there's really nothing quite like the Stanley Cup playoffs?
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh yeah. And the unexpected happens every year and
Speaker 9: in different places at different times, and the first round
Speaker 9: is always one of my favorites because you just don't
Speaker 9: know what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: So let's just start big picture, your biggest surprise so far.
Speaker 2: Now we are still very very early, and a couple
Speaker 2: of series have only played one game. We've got two
Speaker 2: games in the books in some of the other series.
Speaker 2: But anything stand out as far as a surprise just
Speaker 2: kind of storyline throughout the early parts of the playoffs.
Speaker 9: Well, I think there's been two things. First of all,
Speaker 9: Minnesota beating Vegas last night in Vegas quite handily, and
Speaker 9: going from a team who didn't score much they are
Speaker 9: always the under to a team that once they got
Speaker 9: Caprisas and Eric's and Eck and Bowldie all playing together.
Speaker 9: Now all of a sudden they're puting the puck in
Speaker 9: the net and they eliminated Jack Ike, well the best
Speaker 9: player on Vegas, So they won that game handley. And
Speaker 9: then the other thing that surprised me was the shellacking
Speaker 9: that Florida gave Tampa in Tampa in game one of
Speaker 9: that series, which was last night. It was skill versus
Speaker 9: you know, determination, and determination won out with the Florida Panthers.
Speaker 2: Of all the series, excuse me, Of all the series,
Speaker 2: which one is I'll say, the most intriguing, the most entertaining,
Speaker 2: Which one has your attention more than any of them?
Speaker 8: I think.
Speaker 9: Either Ottawa and Toronto where Toronto is up two games
Speaker 9: to none, because that's the Battle of Ontario, and you
Speaker 9: know that's where I'm trump. Or the Florida matchup with
Speaker 9: the Panthers and the Tampa Bay Lightning because they're both
Speaker 9: Stanley Cup contenders, but one of them's got to go
Speaker 9: away after the first round. So I find those two
Speaker 9: things really exciting. Winnipeg and Winnipeg and the Blues. Winnipeg
Speaker 9: was able to take the two nothing lead, very hard
Speaker 9: to I'm back on that from that for Saint Louis,
Speaker 9: but they nevertheless put up a real good fight so far.
Speaker 9: But I'd say that the most intriguing to me. And
Speaker 9: then you, I should see, you've also got Edmonton in
Speaker 9: LA where LA had a four goal lead and got
Speaker 9: it erased by Edmonton, but then one in overtime in
Speaker 9: Game one, so that's also intriguing. And Spence, this is
Speaker 9: the fifth year.
Speaker 7: In a row.
Speaker 9: If you can believe that, the fifth year in a
Speaker 9: row that the first round has had the Edmonton LA matchup.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't realize that it had been five years.
Speaker 2: So I knew it was back to back years. I
Speaker 2: read that earlier. I didn't realize it had been five years. Geez,
Speaker 2: let me, you know all of those series certainly correct answers,
Speaker 2: but the Stars, you know, Stars Avalanche series, of course,
Speaker 2: it's out in our neck of the woods. It's another
Speaker 2: another series where there's going to be a really good
Speaker 2: team that goes home. And first two games have been
Speaker 2: really good. It's had one game apiece. How do you
Speaker 2: see this one playing out?
Speaker 9: Well, I'm giving Colorado the edge because Colorado's gotten healthy
Speaker 9: at the right time and unfortunately for Dallas, they've gotten
Speaker 9: injured at the wrong time. So they lost their top
Speaker 9: goal scorer, Jason Robertson. They had already lost Heiskin and
Speaker 9: their best defenseman, Nko Heiskin, and so that doesn't look
Speaker 9: like those guys might make it back in time. And
Speaker 9: Colorado is really strong. And Gabriel Landscott, the captain of Colorado,
Speaker 9: whose last game was hoisting the Stanley Cup in twenty
Speaker 9: twenty two, has been going to play tonight according to
Speaker 9: his coach, So he hasn't played since that twenty twenty
Speaker 9: two Stanley Cup and he's return is.
Speaker 2: Tonight, three years away from the game. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: a pretty exciting storyline. I want to pan back a
Speaker 2: little bit look at this thing from more of a
Speaker 2: macro viewpoint, and you know, it's always fun to hear
Speaker 2: you educate us on all things NHL as it's new
Speaker 2: to Salt Lake City, and you know, in other sports
Speaker 2: there are other superlatives and cliches about what wins in
Speaker 2: the postseason. From a hockey standpoint, when you go about
Speaker 2: your business of trying to build a team, build a
Speaker 2: team that is built for the playoffs, what are some
Speaker 2: of the dynamics that lead to success? Just generally speaking,
Speaker 2: what leads to success in playoff hockey?
Speaker 9: I think that the pack mentality is one thing where
Speaker 9: you know you've got one guy after the next coming
Speaker 9: at the other team, and you're not based on skill,
Speaker 9: but you can play it any which way. You can
Speaker 9: play skill if you have to, but you can also play,
Speaker 9: you know, that very physical style because the playoffs do
Speaker 9: get extremely physical. When you see the same guys every
Speaker 9: other night for two weeks, it gets really intense and
Speaker 9: you've got to be strong enough to be able to
Speaker 9: stand up for that. Florida, who won the Cup last year,
Speaker 9: has gotten healthy right at the right time. Matthew Kuchuk
Speaker 9: came back last night, first game back two goals and
Speaker 9: an assist, and hasn't played for twenty something games, missed
Speaker 9: twenty something games since the Four Nations. He's been out
Speaker 9: since the Four Nations. Came back and got two goals
Speaker 9: and assists last night in their win over Tampa.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move let's move over to the games
Speaker 2: that are going on tonight. Let's get a little preview.
Speaker 2: I we got the Canadians and the Capitols game one,
Speaker 2: Alvechkin two goals assisted on the other Caps tally the
Speaker 2: oldest player in Stanley Cup playoff history to factor in
Speaker 2: all of his team goals with a minimum of three.
Speaker 2: So this is going to be a barnburner tonight. Washington
Speaker 2: leads one zero. What are you expecting to see between
Speaker 2: Montreal and Washington tonight.
Speaker 9: Well, I was really impressed with the way Montreal came
Speaker 9: back in that game. They sort of seemed to have
Speaker 9: stage fright in the first two periods, but then the
Speaker 9: third period they dominated. They pushed it into overtime and
Speaker 9: Ovechkin got the overtime goal. As you said, during the
Speaker 9: regular season, there was no comparison between Washington Montreal, but
Speaker 9: Montreal has got nothing to lose and I think tonight
Speaker 9: I would be surprised that Washington can take a two
Speaker 9: lead on them the way that Montreal played the other night.
Speaker 9: They're young, they're very aggressive and as I said, they've
Speaker 9: got nothing to lose. No one expected them to even
Speaker 9: make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 2: Who has You know, one of the things you always
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, in football, quarterback the most important position,
Speaker 2: but you know, when it comes to the most important
Speaker 2: position in team sports, I think most people would still
Speaker 2: sid on quarterback. But you do hear a lot of
Speaker 2: people talk about goalies, and hot goalkeepers at the right
Speaker 2: time can lead teams to Stanley Cups. We've seen it before.
Speaker 2: Who are the best goalies in the playoffs?
Speaker 9: Neil Well, but BROSKYI for Florida has to be number
Speaker 9: one since he did win the Cup last year and
Speaker 9: he's starting for them and they won their first game. Massilevski,
Speaker 9: who's won two Stanley Cups for Tampa, didn't look good
Speaker 9: last night, but I can tell you he'll turn that
Speaker 9: around and start playing well. You know, Toronto has got
Speaker 9: for the first year and a long time, has gotten
Speaker 9: superb goaltending out of Anthony Stolars who was with the
Speaker 9: Panthers as the backup last year, but now is the
Speaker 9: number one in Toronto. You've got to have a good
Speaker 9: goaltender to go anywhere in the playoffs because the intensity
Speaker 9: level is so high. You don't have to have a
Speaker 9: superstar like back in my day when you either had
Speaker 9: to have Mike Richt or Marty Brodure or Patrick Waugh.
Speaker 9: But you just have to have a good goalie. Aiden
Speaker 9: Hill in Vegas has won the Stanley Cup and he's
Speaker 9: not a household name. So if I was saying who
Speaker 9: is the best guys, it's Vassilevski and Bobroski for sure,
Speaker 9: you know. And then and then it goes down from there,
Speaker 9: not very far down, but it's those I think are
Speaker 9: the two top guys.
Speaker 2: You are your reference that you like Colorado because they
Speaker 2: are getting healthy at the right time. Series is deadlock
Speaker 2: to one. What do you think happens tonight?
Speaker 9: I think that I think that they're probably going to
Speaker 9: win tonight. I's and Lanscott if he comes back, that's
Speaker 9: going to give them a huge mental boost and the
Speaker 9: building will be buzzing. Dallas is just doesn't I don't
Speaker 9: think Dallas has enough. I just don't. I like their
Speaker 9: lineup when it's healthy, but it's not healthy right now,
Speaker 9: and with Jason Robertson out and mikohaskin, and I just
Speaker 9: think Colorado will be too much.
Speaker 2: You already referenced the comeback six' five Victory game, One
Speaker 2: kings became the fourth team In Stanley cup history to
Speaker 2: blow a four goal lead and then win in. Regulation
Speaker 2: what do you think happens tonight In?
Speaker 1: La i've been To.
Speaker 7: La Kings la are.
Speaker 9: Sorry edmonton's Got Evander keine coming. Back now that's not headline,
Speaker 9: news but that's certainly a different ingredient that you put
Speaker 9: into your. Lineup AND i Think edmonton will even the
Speaker 9: series up. Tonight it's hard for me to believe That connor,
Speaker 9: McDavid leon Dry side And evan Bouch shard And Zach
Speaker 9: hyman and all these other huge players they've got will
Speaker 9: go home down, two but it could. Happen The kings
Speaker 9: are a great home, team but you, know they almost
Speaker 9: put it the other. Night it was amazing to watch
Speaker 9: how The kings sort of fell apart there but were
Speaker 9: able to solidify the win at the.
Speaker 2: End since this was our only opportunity to catch up
Speaker 2: you this, week let's get some thoughts on the, games
Speaker 2: and we played Tomorrow Panther's. Lightning you already referenced you
Speaker 2: like this series an awful. Lot florida leads one. Zero
Speaker 2: this will be In. Tampa what do you think happens?
Speaker 2: TOMORROW i Guess i'll say afternoon between these two.
Speaker 9: Teams, yeah the, game the, game the first game In
Speaker 9: tampa was one. SIDED i think That tampa will make.
Speaker 9: ADJUSTMENTS i don't Think florida'll be able to blow them
Speaker 9: out like six to two like they did in the first.
Speaker 9: Game But tampa's got their hands full With. Florida whoever
Speaker 9: Plays florida is going to have their hands full because
Speaker 9: these guys are Just they play playoff hockey all year,
Speaker 9: long so when the playoffs, come they're used to. It
Speaker 9: that's the way they. Play so that'll be in a
Speaker 9: very intense.
Speaker 2: Matchup we'll move over now to another series that you
Speaker 2: like an awful. Lot based off of where you are,
Speaker 2: From we're all from, somewhere Maple Leaves. Senators that will be.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow that is five o'clock mount, TIME espn. Two toronto
Speaker 2: leads two. Zero canadawa'll get back into.
Speaker 9: IT i Think ottawa can get a. WIN i don't think.
Speaker 9: THAT i don't think they're going to win both games In.
Speaker 9: OTTAWA i think they're going to win one of, them
Speaker 9: which would put them down three to, one which would
Speaker 9: mean That toronto's going to win the series either in
Speaker 9: five or six or. Seven But ottawa is a, good
Speaker 9: feisty young. Team haven't been in the playoffs for many,
Speaker 9: years so this is their first. Exposure Brady Katuck matthew's
Speaker 9: Brother Matthew katuck THAT i talked about In. Florida brady,
Speaker 9: Plays he's the captain Of, ottawa had his first taste
Speaker 9: of playoff hockey in his career in this, series so
Speaker 9: they're all new to. It being down two oher, though
Speaker 9: To toronto is not a good place to.
Speaker 2: Be Golden Knight's Wild that will be tomorrow's seven o'clock
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Speaker 2: as they go back To mint or as they go To.
Speaker 1: Minnesota what do you think happens tomorrow.
Speaker 9: NIGHT i think it's going to be a toss. UP
Speaker 9: i really. DO i was really impressed With Minnesota. Vegas
Speaker 9: vegas ended the season way ahead Of, minnesota But minnesota's gotten.
Speaker 9: Healthy they really played well in that game last, night
Speaker 9: and nothing would surprise. Me they're back on home. Ice
Speaker 9: but you know, What Jack eichel's not going to go
Speaker 9: very long with no, points and he's got none to this,
Speaker 9: point so we'll. SEE i can't give you a winner
Speaker 9: on that. ONE i just want to see.
Speaker 2: It winnipeg was historic all year with their net and
Speaker 2: the best team out this way in The Western.
Speaker 1: Conference can The blues at least make this? INTERESTING i
Speaker 1: think the same AS i said For.
Speaker 9: Ottawa they're down two going. Home eighty six percent of
Speaker 9: the team that have a two dozing lead win the.
Speaker 9: SERIES i think that The jets will win this. SERIES
Speaker 9: i don't think The jets will win both games At
Speaker 9: Enterprise center In Saint. LOUIS i Think. St lewis will
Speaker 9: take one of. Them and about the same, Analysis spence
Speaker 9: THAT i gave you For ottawa And. TORONTO i Think
Speaker 9: winnipeg's clearly the better, team But ottawa is feisty and
Speaker 9: trying hard, to you, know to battle a.
Speaker 2: Giant of all the teams that did not make the,
Speaker 2: playoffs which team surprise you the?
Speaker 1: Most who's the best team not involved in the?
Speaker 7: Tournament you, know it's.
Speaker 9: INTERESTING i was talking about this today with somebody and
Speaker 9: in The, east the best TEAM i think of the
Speaker 9: teams that didn't make it are The Buffalo. Sabers but
Speaker 9: because they're so messed, up their talent can't come through
Speaker 9: and they missed the playoffs again for the fourteenth straight.
Speaker 9: Year but if you looked at their, TALENT i think
Speaker 9: they've got better talent than The Red wings or The
Speaker 9: Columbus Blue jackets and so. On so that's WHAT i
Speaker 9: think on that. Side on the other, side on the
Speaker 9: western side of The utah, Side calgary had a spectacular,
Speaker 9: Year vancouver had a spectacularly bad, year And utah made
Speaker 9: up some ground as we've talked. About BUT i think
Speaker 9: That calgary surprised, me and they've got a real good
Speaker 9: goaltender and they will be right in there in the.
Speaker 9: Mix you can mark this down if you want for
Speaker 9: next year's. Conversations calgary And utah will be fighting for
Speaker 9: a spot next, year fighting each other for a. Spot
Speaker 9: you know, What.
Speaker 2: I'm just, realizing AND i don't have a. Question i'm
Speaker 2: just going to say it into this microphone to get your.
Speaker 2: Reaction Austin, Bruins Chicago, Blackhawks Detroit Red, Wings New York,
Speaker 2: Rangers Pittsburgh, penguins your Old New York. Islanders there are
Speaker 2: a lot of you, know a lot of teams that
Speaker 2: were accustomed to seeing like banner teams for pro hockey
Speaker 2: that are not in The Stanley cup. Playoffs LIKE i,
Speaker 2: said out of, question that's kind of interesting. Though those are,
Speaker 2: big big. Brands and let me.
Speaker 9: Give you a fact that this is the first time
Speaker 9: in history that the FOUR us Based Original six, teams
Speaker 9: being The, Rangers, Chicago boston And, detroit have all been
Speaker 9: out of the. Playoffs all four of The american Based
Speaker 9: Original six are missing the playoffs for the first time.
Speaker 9: Ever and you're, Right pittsburgh's been out for a couple
Speaker 9: of years, now but they've certainly still Got crosby And
Speaker 9: malcolm and so, on and we're used to seeing. Them
Speaker 9: The New York, islanders of, course had their heyday long,
Speaker 9: ago But Boston bruins were only two years removed from
Speaker 9: from setting not just a franchise record of wins and,
Speaker 9: points a league record of wins and points just two years,
Speaker 9: ago and now the bottom's fallen out on.
Speaker 1: Them pretty wild to, consider all, Right.
Speaker 2: Neil but FOR i set you lose just a thought
Speaker 2: on The Utah Hockey, club and of Course i've already
Speaker 2: asked you about what they need to add and What
Speaker 2: Bill armstrong could. Do but we had some postseason media
Speaker 2: With Bill armstrong and Coach. Tourney they held exit interviews
Speaker 2: and now the players go on their. Ways just so
Speaker 2: for our fans around, here what is this time of
Speaker 2: year like for front offices that are not involved in
Speaker 2: The Stanley cup, playoffs namely The Utah Hockey.
Speaker 9: Club, WELL i Think Bill armstrong's meeting having scouting, meetings
Speaker 9: may go over to The World championships and look at
Speaker 9: that and look at the best players over. There definitely
Speaker 9: looking at high high end junior, talent college, talent people
Speaker 9: that are going to be in the Entry. Draft he's
Speaker 9: going to be going with his scouts to see. That
Speaker 9: so they're going to be preparing and they're gonna have
Speaker 9: lots of time to do. It they're going to be
Speaker 9: preparing for the entry. Draft they're going to and they
Speaker 9: got a lot of. Picks they're going to be preparing
Speaker 9: for free agency seeing who's. Available so they've they've got
Speaker 9: a lot of. Time that's what you do in the.
Speaker 9: Offseason you study what's out. There you already know what
Speaker 9: you need and what you think can be replaced because
Speaker 9: you've watched the two. Games but this is a time
Speaker 9: WHEN i can tell You Bill armstrong's not spending a
Speaker 9: lot of nights at home right.
Speaker 2: NOW a lot of new hockey fans out, Here, neil
Speaker 2: how can they go find your?
Speaker 1: Podcast, well go.
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Speaker 2: Show, Great, timy you're my. Friend thank you for your
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Speaker 9: It, okay, yeah thank, You, spence you? Too all.
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Speaker 2: the four o'clock. Hour but while we're, here with about
Speaker 2: ten fifteen minutes in this, segment let's do A LITTLE.
Speaker 2: Rsl John, kimball the president of the, club hopped on
Speaker 2: the program yesterday to break the news that The diego
Speaker 2: red card has been, rescinded And john, asked, like AS
Speaker 2: i brought him, in has this ever happened in the
Speaker 2: history of pro sports? Before AND i can't necessarily answer that,
Speaker 2: emphatically BUT i will say this my entire life around pro,
Speaker 2: sports working in, it being around. It the typical situation
Speaker 2: not to Go Dave Matthews honyo on A, wednesday but
Speaker 2: typically the leagues want to protect their, officials and they
Speaker 2: want to protect their, processes and they want to protect you,
Speaker 2: know any and, deflect quite, frankly any criticism comes away
Speaker 2: to the refs outside of like A tim donaghey situation
Speaker 2: with THE nba When David sarton wanted that dude swimming
Speaker 2: with the.
Speaker 1: Fishes so this does not happen very.
Speaker 2: Often now in real, Time, chris When i'm watching the
Speaker 2: game AND i just see kind of out out of
Speaker 2: the corner of my Eye diego standing over the, player
Speaker 2: it looked. Bad in real, Time i'm, like did he kick?
Speaker 2: Him and is he kind of rubbing it? In and
Speaker 2: then you see the replay And you're, like, dude he
Speaker 2: didn't even touch. Him that's not even a. Yellow but
Speaker 2: this is pretty rare that this. Happens SO rsl they
Speaker 2: go through the appeals process and it actually was approved
Speaker 2: and the red card was, rescinded was not even awarded a,
Speaker 2: yellow and he'll be playing on the weekend Against San.
Speaker 1: Diego what'd you make of?
Speaker 3: THIS i Think kurt was on your show a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago and he said that he's not a
Speaker 3: fan of var Correct Kurt, SCHMIDT rsl technical, director AND
Speaker 3: i disagree with that, sentiment but NOW i kind of
Speaker 3: see where he's coming. From, like if the point is
Speaker 3: to get it, right and you're going to stop the,
Speaker 3: game you're going to slow everybody, Down you're going to
Speaker 3: wait for somebody from another state to patch into your
Speaker 3: headset and say go check it, out and then to
Speaker 3: waste more time and then to still get it. Wrong, yikes.
Speaker 3: Man and this is not specific TO. MLS i, mean
Speaker 3: we've seen vargo wrong at big levels over In. Europe
Speaker 3: we've seen it go wrong in The World. Cup it
Speaker 3: is it is a byproduct of human, air Which i'm
Speaker 3: always going to be a proponent. Of it is the
Speaker 3: reality of. It but you can have human air WITHOUT.
Speaker 3: Var you can't have human err WITH, var because otherwise
Speaker 3: either you're incompetent or you're just doubling down and you
Speaker 3: are refusing to correct a. WRONG i think it was
Speaker 3: hard to slow down Because luna moved so quick and
Speaker 3: got his leg out of that scissor hold so fast
Speaker 3: that it could have looked like he stomped him while
Speaker 3: he was getting his feet. OUT i, Agree but as
Speaker 3: they showed replay over and, over once his foot was,
Speaker 3: cleared he didn't step on. Him so to your, point
Speaker 3: it shouldn't have been a yellow. Card it should have
Speaker 3: been play. On it should have been, hey you, guys
Speaker 3: come talk to. Me let's keep it, cool let's move,
Speaker 3: on and you, know play. ON i don't know If
Speaker 3: diego being involved in the last twenty nine to thirty
Speaker 3: minutes of that match changes the. OUTCOME i Think garcel
Speaker 3: ended up about shooting him like twenty four to. Two
Speaker 3: that's another topic That i'm sure we'll get, to but
Speaker 3: IT'S i, mean the league did the right. Thing like
Speaker 3: you can't protect mistakes at that, level especially considering red
Speaker 3: cards aren't only the ejection from the current, game but
Speaker 3: an ensuing suspension from the. Falling it's very.
Speaker 2: PUNITIVE i MEAN i can remember BEFORE i even knew
Speaker 2: anything about soccer at, all, because As i've told you,
Speaker 2: before prior to bringing the club here in two thousand and,
Speaker 2: FOUR i maybe A World cup here. THERE i never,
Speaker 2: watched AND i was very much anti anti. SOCCER i
Speaker 2: told you the story when my father flew into town and,
Speaker 2: SAID i want to take you, lunch and we went
Speaker 2: to lunch and he, said here's my. IDEA i want
Speaker 2: to bring soccer to Salt. It i'm, like what are you?
Speaker 2: Doing what a bad? IDEA i, MEAN i told him
Speaker 2: not to do.
Speaker 7: It he was.
Speaker 1: RIGHT i was, wrong of, course that's how it.
Speaker 2: Goes but WHEN i first heard about what a red card,
Speaker 2: Was i'm, like wait a, second he sits the rest
Speaker 2: of this match and he can't play the next, Game
Speaker 2: like they don't do that in THE nfl or THE.
Speaker 2: Nba you get ejected and you have to sit the next.
Speaker 2: Game like it's, like you.
Speaker 3: Know it is sure if you're talking a blanket, statement
Speaker 3: soccer it is different from other.
Speaker 1: Sports, yeah and yes there are.
Speaker 2: LEVELS i, mean if you run our test a, fan
Speaker 2: you're gonna miss some. Time but if you just get
Speaker 2: ejected for arguing with a ref or a hard flagrant,
Speaker 2: foul unless it's really, egregious you're rarely suspended in, soccer
Speaker 2: are red means you're out the next. Game And, christopher
Speaker 2: a team that's hemorrhaging, points losing their best player In Diego,
Speaker 2: luna even you, know just for one, game felt pretty.
Speaker 2: Harsh so were you surprised that the league did. This
Speaker 2: i'll tell you WHAT i. WAS i was very surprised surprised.
Speaker 2: IT i don't know if there was precedent for. IT
Speaker 2: i feel like in THE nba there have been times
Speaker 2: where they've rescinded technical fouls that end up accumulating in a.
Speaker 1: Suspension, yes, yeah that's. True they did To LUCA i
Speaker 1: think last.
Speaker 3: Year, yeah but it's very. RARE i understand the league's
Speaker 3: desire to protect its. Referees but, AGAIN i think IF
Speaker 3: i think the fact that they went to var and
Speaker 3: they and then the referee still went with the red,
Speaker 3: CARD i think that was even that much more. Damning
Speaker 3: so for.
Speaker 2: A team that at this point has three wins through nine,
Speaker 2: GAMES i don't really have the stomach for.
Speaker 1: It it's all the ref's.
Speaker 2: Fault, HOWEVER i will present this to You peel's read
Speaker 2: at home Against.
Speaker 1: Dallas.
Speaker 2: Uh we talked about that the week after it. Happened
Speaker 2: that felt a little harsh based off of the entire
Speaker 2: flow of the actual, play where The dallas player probably
Speaker 2: should have been called for a foul before. That THE
Speaker 2: pk in that game was a bad call Against. Dallas
Speaker 2: muktar From, Nashville no big. Deal i've GOT mls, knowledge
Speaker 2: clearly initi hated.
Speaker 3: BUT i got. You Really, yeah But muktar is On.
Speaker 1: Nashville wait, wait, No muktar drew the.
Speaker 3: Penalty, Oh muktar drew the. Penalty, YES i thought you
Speaker 3: were talking about the elbow To Mark.
Speaker 1: SOUP i was getting there.
Speaker 2: Now Now i'm glad you said that BECAUSE i didn't
Speaker 2: know the dude's, name but that clearly was a.
Speaker 1: Red he Hit don with the.
Speaker 2: Elbow Then muktar initiates the contact Against nelson and FALLS.
Speaker 2: Pk there there is and, LOOK i don't really hear
Speaker 2: from players in that post media scrum At America First,
Speaker 2: field And Alex catron has had some things to. Say
Speaker 2: so While i'm not going to lay their lack of
Speaker 2: results at the feet of the. Officials If i'm with
Speaker 2: the club right, Now i'm feeling a little bit hard.
Speaker 3: Done you, are AND i think you're feeling hard done
Speaker 3: because of the current form you're. IN i think if
Speaker 3: you're sprinkling in some draws and a, win if you
Speaker 3: have some semblance of peaks and, VALLEYS i think it's
Speaker 3: a little easier to. Stomach but right now you are
Speaker 3: very much existing in a. Valley and the season so, long,
Speaker 3: MAN i want to say that it will eventually even itself.
Speaker 3: OUT i just think there has Been this is just
Speaker 3: compounding on top of the way too Early Conker Calf
Speaker 3: Champions cup exit to a team that you should have,
Speaker 3: beat the fact that they seems like they fail to
Speaker 3: upgrade the roster necessarily in the spring transfer, window and
Speaker 3: they're just not a very good team right, now and
Speaker 3: they're not playing an attractive style of. Soccer they are
Speaker 3: good from one box to, another they're really. Good but
Speaker 3: once you're once oursel is tasked with, defending either in
Speaker 3: emergency scenarios or in real, time not. Great and once
Speaker 3: they get into the opponent's final, third, yikes, MAN i,
Speaker 3: mean like is it is dire Straits AND i don't
Speaker 3: know if there's going to be a solution on the.
Speaker 3: Horizon all, right so excuse.
Speaker 2: Me we will now move over to the primary transfer
Speaker 2: window that closes. Today so essentially you just have to
Speaker 2: have some paperwork across the final you, know the final
Speaker 2: dotted line in order to add. Pieces you don't actually
Speaker 2: have to announce everything. Today so maybe we'll hear some
Speaker 2: things that we have not heard so. Far but we
Speaker 2: will talk about the player, that according to our Guy Tom,
Speaker 2: BOGERT rsl has added a.
Speaker 1: Player then we'll talk about the player that they're not
Speaker 1: going to.
Speaker 2: Add so we'll move over now To william is It
Speaker 2: agata nailed?
Speaker 1: IT i was afraid that he might be. Silent you never.
Speaker 1: KNOW i call Him, willie no big, deal twenty five years.
Speaker 2: Old he is a. Striker he comes TO rsl From SPORTING.
Speaker 2: Kc let's, see has he played much this? Year doesn't
Speaker 2: look like he's played a ton this. YEAR i don't
Speaker 2: know anything about. Him what do you know about the
Speaker 2: player THAT rsl Has according To, tom this is the
Speaker 2: player that they're bringing.
Speaker 3: In a band, aid safe to, SAY i, mean this
Speaker 3: is a what was your guy who ended up In?
Speaker 3: Brazil Elias, Manuel, Yeah, lias same same type.
Speaker 6: Thing.
Speaker 3: Gotcha this is a band aid if there ever was
Speaker 3: a band. Aid it is a guy who scored goals
Speaker 3: for some of the Worst Sporting Kansas city teams in recent,
Speaker 3: memory and they needed to do. Something but clearly they
Speaker 3: had a. PLAN b after your guy who will never
Speaker 3: get to see the number Nine Robert bosanique after that
Speaker 3: transfer apparently has fallen through in epic.
Speaker 2: Fashion So, willie our, guy our NEW rsl stats this
Speaker 2: year he has played in six, games with one, start
Speaker 2: ninety six, minutes played five as a, sub with zero
Speaker 2: goals and zero.
Speaker 1: Assists, yeah so there we. Go, yep looks like.
Speaker 2: He has six career goals For sporting casey If i'm
Speaker 2: reading this, Correctly, NO i.
Speaker 3: Think he's somewhere around like twenty ish twenty.
Speaker 2: Three he had six last. Year there you, go my.
Speaker 2: Bad all, Right so twenty five year old striker on the,
Speaker 2: Way williegatta my, Guy. Willie so to your, point let's
Speaker 2: move over now to the player that was announced that
Speaker 2: had agreed to.
Speaker 1: Terms but now this deal is.
Speaker 2: Off so as of, yesterday AND i talked To john about,
Speaker 2: THIS i talked to you about this last. Week the
Speaker 2: reports WHERE rsl was bringing In bosnik bosaniqu excuse me
Speaker 2: from This portuguese club that apparently is not necessarily operated
Speaker 2: at the highest level with business.
Speaker 1: Acumen so the deal is.
Speaker 2: Off according To tom And robert was here toward the
Speaker 2: facilities past a physical past as physical they apparently had
Speaker 2: agreed to. Terms they were just waiting for the signature
Speaker 2: of the dotted. Line educate us a little, bit what's
Speaker 2: the deal with his club that apparently is really tough
Speaker 2: to do business.
Speaker 3: With, well Boa, vista for THE, Mls sikos is a
Speaker 3: club that originally signed a young talented outside back Named
Speaker 3: Reggie cannon FROM Fc, dallas rose through The american, ranks
Speaker 3: and proceeded to not Pay reggie his wages while he
Speaker 3: was over, There and there have been multiple reports Of
Speaker 3: Boa vista not paying transfer fees for players and just
Speaker 3: basically is a club that you shouldn't try to get
Speaker 3: into business with in the first. Place AND i think
Speaker 3: that's the thirty thousand view point of this spence is,
Speaker 3: like CLEARLY rsl got desperate enough to find a player
Speaker 3: that they liked at a price point that met what
Speaker 3: they were currently shopping, at and unfortunately it seemed to
Speaker 3: be at a club that has very difficult financial. SITUATIONS
Speaker 3: i Think tom reported at some point in the last
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, that like they forgot to pay their
Speaker 3: electrical bill at their training. Facility i'm not, Kidding, so, like,
Speaker 3: listen this this Was this is a byproduct of not
Speaker 3: being able to secure a transformational player when you need.
Speaker 3: One this is something that should have probably been tackled
Speaker 3: in the winter, time or at least had a head.
Speaker 3: Start AND i note there is a multitude of layers
Speaker 3: to this. Conversation this isn't on any one. PERSON i
Speaker 3: think this is a byproduct of how having your star
Speaker 3: player decide he needed to go in the blink of an,
Speaker 3: eye having the pseudo band aid replacement decide he wanted
Speaker 3: to go To. Brazil you're coming up against a transfer
Speaker 3: window that didn't go your, way you have ownership change floating.
Speaker 3: Overhead But Robert bosanique is not the type of player
Speaker 3: you need to necessarily break the bank. For like he
Speaker 3: is a guy that by all, accounts was going to
Speaker 3: come in for anywhere from like two to three million,
Speaker 3: dollars and, he's you, know a young guy gets some
Speaker 3: caps for The slovakian national, team but hasn't scored a
Speaker 3: ton of. Goals and this is What i've been telling,
Speaker 3: you LIKE, rcel if they're going to kind of rediscover
Speaker 3: the the flare and the style and the success that
Speaker 3: they had last, year they have to go out and
Speaker 3: find somebody and pay a lot of money in order
Speaker 3: to get them to come here and want to be
Speaker 3: the tip of the. Spear But bosanique isn't the guy
Speaker 3: that you should necessarily overpay. For i've been told that
Speaker 3: Boa vista's executives changed the terms last. Minute tom reported
Speaker 3: the same, Thing so like what are they?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 3: WHY i get that you're up against it eleventh, hour
Speaker 3: BUT i think this is a learning lesson for everybody
Speaker 3: involved that you got to figure out who you're dealing
Speaker 3: with and who you're getting into business with when you're up,
Speaker 3: against you, know such a tight.
Speaker 2: Window let me clean this up a little. Bit So william,
Speaker 2: AGAIN i call Him, Willie Willie? Goles Willy is that
Speaker 2: why they call?
Speaker 1: Him willie's what.
Speaker 3: You're going to call?
Speaker 9: Him?
Speaker 1: Now who was the who was? That who?
Speaker 5: Was?
Speaker 1: Oh Is Johnny?
Speaker 2: Menendez When trey was Like Johnny goles and he literally
Speaker 2: scored a, goal SO i started and call Him Johnny
Speaker 2: gole and that best tray off because then they had
Speaker 2: to get rid of. Him uh, so So Willi, goles
Speaker 2: you know, What we'll roll with.
Speaker 3: IT i like.
Speaker 2: It his career In Sporting Kansas city last year was
Speaker 2: his best. Year he played thirty two, games, started twenty
Speaker 2: had ten, goals three. Assists for his career four years
Speaker 2: In Kansas city twenty one, goals five, assists sixty four games,
Speaker 2: played thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Starts so it appears that he's more of like a.
Speaker 2: Is there An Anderson julio, parallel like a fast dude
Speaker 2: that comes in off the.
Speaker 3: BENCH i haven't watched that much Of Willy, goals to
Speaker 3: be honest with, you but he strikes me as the
Speaker 3: type of player that probably had An anderson type role
Speaker 3: At Sporting Kansas, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm smiling because we're calling Him Willi. Goles he hasn't
Speaker 2: scored this. Year it's like when everybody Called roy's O'Neil.
Speaker 3: Buckets well that was His twitter, Handle, yeah but he
Speaker 3: couldn't shoot self a little, Better, yeah but he still couldn't.
Speaker 1: Shoot it Was.
Speaker 2: Royce it was like, bucket bucket, O'Neil Johnny gole speaking
Speaker 2: of excuse, Me willie. Goals but speaking Of, johnny let's
Speaker 2: move over to the other, Rumor Johnny, russell who looks
Speaker 2: like he enjoys himself a. Pint he's A scottish player
Speaker 2: who played At Derby county and then played At Sporting
Speaker 2: Kansas city let's, see for about six, years but has not.
Speaker 1: Played he's been without a club this.
Speaker 3: Year, yea he was one of their best players for
Speaker 3: a long. Time, okay he was there while they were
Speaker 3: still pretty, good and then he was there when they
Speaker 3: got pretty.
Speaker 2: Bad, Okay so according To tom RSLs and talks to
Speaker 2: bring In Johnny, russell.
Speaker 3: Thirty five year old, guy left footed, winger once upon
Speaker 3: a time was one of the best wingers in the.
Speaker 3: League looks like he can enjoy a. Pint he's a
Speaker 3: Scott he's A. Scottish i've been seeing what kind of
Speaker 3: form or fitness Level Johnny russell is currently. In but
Speaker 3: when you haven't played for a, while maybe he needs
Speaker 3: to get into the. Gym BUT i don't. KNOW i
Speaker 3: looking at this, window this team clearly needs some, leaders
Speaker 3: some voices in the locker, room because watching this team
Speaker 3: it's like watching a bunch of. Passengers, Man like nobody
Speaker 3: wants to take the game by the scruff of the
Speaker 3: next way to describe does. Sometimes BUT i think if
Speaker 3: you're the, opposition you do your best to just try
Speaker 3: to take him out of it. Tactically and then other than,
Speaker 3: that who is going to, impose who's gonna impose? Themselves
Speaker 3: who's going to and still fear in the opposing defense
Speaker 3: like half a. Cabrala its been, Great but like there's
Speaker 3: a reason why a lot of people don't give goalkeepers
Speaker 3: the armband because they're so oftentimes sixty yards. Away like
Speaker 3: you need somebody in the thick of. Things And i'm
Speaker 3: not saying you need a A Kyle beckerman type personality or.
Speaker 2: A happy birthday to the. Captain by the, Way kyle's
Speaker 2: birthday today is?
Speaker 3: It it? Is how old Is kyle? NOW i think
Speaker 3: he's a little bit older than. Me i's the thirty thirty.
Speaker 3: Nine probably he's probably looking at. FORTY i don't, know
Speaker 3: if he's on, it he's probably looking at. You don't
Speaker 3: you don't need A, Kyle you. DON'T i mean you
Speaker 3: need a bunch of like grab a, voice you, know
Speaker 3: you need A beltran dirty need you need you need
Speaker 3: A Chris, winger like you need somebody to lead the locker.
Speaker 3: Room and There's they're a young. Team, Man, listen they're
Speaker 3: a very young. Team AND i AND i JUST i
Speaker 3: would describe it like it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 3: team that's filled with passengers and nobody wants to get
Speaker 3: behind the.
Speaker 2: Wheel so the transfer window closes, Today chris. Uh the
Speaker 2: forwards will Be ari Pol Willie, goles my Guy, forrester
Speaker 2: WHO i think is now with the development The, monarchs,
Speaker 2: yep our Guy.
Speaker 1: Berea so is are they?
Speaker 2: SCREWED i mean it's a season lost if these are the.
Speaker 2: Strikers we've seen nothing to indicate anyone on the roster
Speaker 2: is able to finish. Consistently you, Know forrester has good physical,
Speaker 2: traits the touch has been off and he's.
Speaker 3: Out he's a developmental, guy, RIGHT i Think ari is. Too,
Speaker 3: yeah you can make that. Argument, Yeah so like what
Speaker 3: are we doing? Here does it feel like this is
Speaker 3: going to be a lost year for? Ourselves it? Does,
Speaker 3: so it, Does AND i think to that sucks to
Speaker 3: sound pretty, Dire LIKE i think there were last years
Speaker 3: quote unquote and the tail end of The deloy year
Speaker 3: slash when the league took. Over but people forget, that
Speaker 3: like those teams Had Jamir, Crylock, Jefferson Jefferson, Savarino Albert,
Speaker 3: rusnak like guys who were, really really good and that
Speaker 3: team doesn't have it anybody to that.
Speaker 2: Caliber right, Now, okay one more thing here before we.
Speaker 2: BREAK i referenced. This even though the transfer portal officially closes,
Speaker 2: today there have been plenty of examples in the, past
Speaker 2: dating all the way back to The garth, years where
Speaker 2: some things actually did take place and, transpire uh not
Speaker 2: officially after the window, closed but they had like the
Speaker 2: paperwork done that they need.
Speaker 3: They later in the. Week all, Right so there's that
Speaker 3: possibility is still out. There, Correct, YEAH i believe it's our.
Speaker 3: Time it's like ten to fifty Nine mountain is when
Speaker 3: that is when deals need to be submitted to the.
Speaker 3: League you, know everything buttoned, up so you could see
Speaker 3: deals coming in the ensuing, days but it sounds like
Speaker 3: they'll end up being domestic, deals like with with your
Speaker 3: Guy Willie. Goles if The Johnny russell thing goes, THROUGH
Speaker 3: i Know rsel is in line on another potential player
Speaker 3: in the. League but like nothing is going to blow
Speaker 3: the fans.
Speaker 2: Away let me just kick the tires on this before we,
Speaker 2: break Because Tom bogert sends, OUT i feel so bad
Speaker 2: for the player. Here Robert bosanique really wanted the, move
Speaker 2: completed his medical On, tuesday has been at the facility today.
Speaker 1: Too he was going to get a nice pay. Raise
Speaker 1: now he's the.
Speaker 2: One left holding the bag Because boavista went back on the.
Speaker 2: Agreement do you think there's any chance this is resurrected
Speaker 2: at all or does it feel like it's totally?
Speaker 3: Dead if YOU'RE, rsl there's no way you can go
Speaker 3: back and work with these guys unless they Unless robert
Speaker 3: and his representation and the club that basically screwed you said,
Speaker 3: yeah we'll sell him for even. Cheaper BUT i think
Speaker 3: like you have to flush this thing and never go.
Speaker 1: Back all, Right, Well, Chris chris will give us the.
Speaker 1: Truth he will shoot us.
Speaker 3: STRAIGHT i told you this a month, ago that these
Speaker 3: things take so long and they take it's so hard
Speaker 3: to get them over the. Line unfortunately FOR, rsel they
Speaker 3: have to learn this is a harsh learning lesson that
Speaker 3: you have to figure out who you're really willing to
Speaker 3: go down these types of paths.
Speaker 1: With it is.
Speaker 2: Official THE RSLs sent out the announcement Rayl salle acquire
Speaker 2: strike Striker Willie agata From Sporting Kansas city not around
Speaker 2: here As Willy. Coles all, right we'll catch a break
Speaker 2: coming up next transfer portal college. FOOTBALL a lot of
Speaker 2: people are. Mad we'll talk some college, Football. Chris is
Speaker 2: this your?
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Speaker 3: Years we should just do exclusive eighties one hit wonders
Speaker 3: Anytime i'm On it's basically any day of the.
Speaker 1: Show is this yacht rock?
Speaker 3: Officially, Yeah Jeffrey, Osborne, Yeah on.
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Speaker 3: you might have been.
Speaker 2: Caught, WELL i DEFINITELY i don't watch The. Bachler IF i,
Speaker 2: DID i would tell. YOU i, MEAN i still Watch
Speaker 2: Laguna beach in The. Hills i'm not you, know we've
Speaker 2: talked About, Yeah i'm not one that is a snob
Speaker 2: about WHAT i. WATCH i was having dinner with somebody
Speaker 2: the other day AND i revealed THAT i was born
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy. Eight it is wild when the youngs
Speaker 2: find out that you were born in the. SEVENTIES i.
Speaker 2: Was i'm a child of SEVENTY i was born in seventy.
Speaker 2: Eight it feels like that makes me, very very old these. Days,
Speaker 2: well you should be. Proud you're part of The you're
Speaker 2: part of the best. GENERATION i agree with, that And
Speaker 2: i've you, know the only THING i have over you
Speaker 2: is that you covet the fact That i'm a gen
Speaker 2: xer because you are an older.
Speaker 1: Millennial.
Speaker 3: Correct how old do you? KNOW i turned thirty. Nine
Speaker 3: when's your?
Speaker 1: Birthday? December oh that's, right you were A december.
Speaker 3: Birthday, yep all, Right.
Speaker 2: Chris the transferport on college football is open closes On.
Speaker 2: Friday twitter mostly is comprised of mentally old people throwing
Speaker 2: their feces at each. Other but you've Got utah fans
Speaker 2: And Utah i'll use an air quotes reporters talking ABOUT
Speaker 2: byu messing With utah players and tampering and, such and
Speaker 2: THEN pyu fans throwing their feces back At utah. Fans
Speaker 2: is tampering even a thing right now when there are
Speaker 2: no rules and regulations and you're just doing whatever you
Speaker 2: have to do to acquire.
Speaker 3: Talent, no but CAN i take a quick non? Sequitur?
Speaker 1: Please do we love non sequiturs on the?
Speaker 3: Show, WELL i guess it's more of a Secuitder, okay
Speaker 3: we love those. Too WHEN i was a kid living
Speaker 3: in The Bay, area we used to go to The
Speaker 3: San Francisco, zoo great zoo by the, way and one
Speaker 3: time class field, trip very, vivid like second third, grade
Speaker 3: the chimps just launching it man full, send, okay like
Speaker 3: you would think that these guys were getting scouted by the,
Speaker 3: pros like full, on thirty forty, feet just launching. It so,
Speaker 3: Yeah so it's a good, Analogy and that's basically, yes.
Speaker 2: That basically, yes What i've realized About twitter truly mentally
Speaker 2: old people through. Feces there's nothing that benefits me ever
Speaker 2: from going on there but creature of. Habit AND i
Speaker 2: STILL i go to like specific accounts IF i want
Speaker 2: news like my algorithms messed up the four you, Feed
Speaker 2: i'm like, that none of that's for. Me but where
Speaker 2: we're at, now until there are rules or regulations in,
Speaker 2: PLACE i don't think there's even such a thing as,
Speaker 2: Tampering like that's not even real because you're allowed to
Speaker 2: do whatever you want to. Do transfer portal, opens you
Speaker 2: can contact whoever you.
Speaker 3: Want there are no. Rules the only rules are whether
Speaker 3: you make it into the portal before the cutoff. Date
Speaker 3: that's basically it. Correct and if we really want to
Speaker 3: drill down on, this should we?
Speaker 1: Drill let's let's grind and.
Speaker 3: Drill this is a peak into the paranoid subconscious of
Speaker 3: a fan base that is afraid that they are backsliding
Speaker 3: or devolving into the days that they felt like we're gone.
Speaker 3: Forever this is The utah fan, base paranoid THAT byu
Speaker 3: is going to rise again or has, risen has? Risen
Speaker 3: shout Out Easter sunday and this this is a. BIPRO i, mean, like, listen,
Speaker 3: Man i've lived here for a long. TIME i went
Speaker 3: to THE. U some of my best, friends closest friends
Speaker 3: in the world went TO, Byu like we are in it.
Speaker 3: Together we talk about the intermachinations of both fan. Bases
Speaker 3: utah fans are, scared and that's, okay but if you're
Speaker 3: going to exist in the, cesspool you need to understand, That,
Speaker 3: like that's what where all of this is coming. From
Speaker 3: there is the they're upset because IT'S. Byu if it
Speaker 3: was any other, SCHOOL i promise, you they wouldn't be
Speaker 3: making as much of a. Fuss If Keanu tanavasa decided
Speaker 3: to go To stanford OR usc Or oregon Or, michigan
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have cared a single bit compared to him
Speaker 3: going TO. Byu this is a byproduct Of utah fans being.
Speaker 3: Afraid and that's the. Reality and until you wrap your
Speaker 3: mind around the fact that there are no, rules just
Speaker 3: chill man and. LISTEN i can say this BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: KNOW i went to school. There i've been Around utah
Speaker 3: fans for a long. Time this is the inferiority complex
Speaker 3: playing out in real. Time people are up in arms
Speaker 3: about a dude who has six? Catches what are we? Doing?
Speaker 3: Man this is And i'm going to go, back like
Speaker 3: the thirty thousand viewpoint of this whole thing is like
Speaker 3: this Is utah failing to build a tide receiver. Room
Speaker 3: this has nothing to do With Zach. Williams this is
Speaker 3: this is The this is a fundamental failure once again
Speaker 3: and For utah to have really good wide receivers and
Speaker 3: the fact that people are freaking out that a kid
Speaker 3: who maybe had a good spring like people, saying, oh
Speaker 3: he had a good spring, game so we're going to
Speaker 3: we're going to blame the spring. Game the lengths that
Speaker 3: people will go to to find a Boogeyman spence is.
Speaker 1: Wild yeah it.
Speaker 2: Is and you know it's funny you reference the whole
Speaker 2: like undercurrent of fear for yout fans when it comes
Speaker 2: to the rivalry at some point swinging back around because,
Speaker 2: dude for years and years and, years when you, know
Speaker 2: coach McBride builds it, Up urban takes it. Over and
Speaker 2: this two year straight to the, moon the two Year
Speaker 2: Urban meyer Boom utah football is different, Instantly pac twelve
Speaker 2: coach with generation of youth dominance throughout the entire throughout
Speaker 2: the entire. Thing like every, year like all, right we'll
Speaker 2: send out a tweet about the winning streak eight straight,
Speaker 2: nines whatever it, was ten and twelve. YEARS i would
Speaker 2: say on air like you guys, know, oh this won't,
Speaker 2: last because all this stuff is, cyclical and maintaining dominance
Speaker 2: over your rival in any sport on any level never
Speaker 2: lasts all that. Long it was pretty remarkable that AFTER
Speaker 2: i think there was just Like Lavelle stretch was like
Speaker 2: twenty one and two Against, utah and so WHEN i
Speaker 2: was growing, up certainly If utah made it, close that
Speaker 2: felt like a. Win and then you get the Occasional Eddie,
Speaker 2: johnson you.
Speaker 3: Know the occasional wild, game right, right.
Speaker 2: And that was like an amazing upset that put the
Speaker 2: win in the sales of ute, fans but it WAS
Speaker 2: byu Dominating utah football. Forever and so if you're A
Speaker 2: utah football fan that's a little bit, older you remember,
Speaker 2: that and that's that's a place you never want to
Speaker 2: go to. Again and so the fact that you know
Speaker 2: football fans my son's, age you, know twenty two to
Speaker 2: twenty three and younger only know this ute generation of.
Speaker 2: Dominance it it does kind of dissuade the fact that
Speaker 2: there are THESE youte fans that are older that have
Speaker 2: enjoyed the past twenty years or, whatever but have always
Speaker 2: thought like what if we go back to the way
Speaker 2: it was WHEN i was growing, up and what If
Speaker 2: kalani gets this thing?
Speaker 1: Ticking AND i think the main, fear at least.
Speaker 2: The QUESTION i get from a lot of people is
Speaker 2: When kyle's, done what is it going to look? Like
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i, think you, Know kyle's established this. Generation he
Speaker 2: was the Guy i've always said the two biggest days
Speaker 2: Of utah football as far as their generational dominance over
Speaker 2: their arrival and their relative success when it comes to
Speaker 2: other football programs in The pac, twelve certainly when they won.
Speaker 2: Championships the two biggest days were when The pac twelve
Speaker 2: invite came and When kyle said, no it Was Alma
Speaker 2: Matern yes To. Utah those are the two biggest days
Speaker 2: that have led us to this space where of course
Speaker 2: B yu got him last, year but it has been
Speaker 2: a generation Of utah football. Dominance but there has been
Speaker 2: this undercurrent of anxiety that will this thing flip and
Speaker 2: we're back to the way it was When lavelle was
Speaker 2: the head, coach and that ultimately leads to the over
Speaker 2: the top reactions WHEN byu poaches A utah football player
Speaker 2: or whatever it.
Speaker 3: Is but what how are we defining. Poaching you know
Speaker 3: WHAT i mean like, That what people are failing to
Speaker 3: realize is that BEFORE, nil before the transfer, portal players
Speaker 3: were moving back and forth between these two programs every single.
Speaker 3: Year some of the BEST byu players in recent memory
Speaker 3: went To. Utah some of the Best utah players in
Speaker 3: recent memory went TO. Byu Francis, bernard great PLAYER byu
Speaker 3: comes To, utah helps them, win goes to THE. Nfl
Speaker 3: just first name off to my. Head there are so
Speaker 3: many other players like. That Samson nakua played At, utah
Speaker 3: helped them win A pack twelve, title goes to B
Speaker 3: why you played with play with his? Brother it IS i,
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean you hit the nail on the. Head
Speaker 3: it is a fundamental fear that you, know the the
Speaker 3: opposition that the dreaded rival is has amassed the amount
Speaker 3: of support that they have and maybe your your side.
Speaker 3: Hasn't but we got to chill. Man we this is
Speaker 3: and a lot of this comes down TO i don't
Speaker 3: know if we have time for you, know you, know
Speaker 3: my main my main thing in life is wanting to
Speaker 3: expand media literacy across the across the, globe to the
Speaker 3: to the, youngs especially to people who live on the.
Speaker 3: Internet this is also a byproduct of this is you
Speaker 3: always need to double and triple and sometimes quadruple check
Speaker 3: where you're getting your information. Online BECAUSE i know a
Speaker 3: lot of people aren't fans of the media world right,
Speaker 3: now but just proceed with. Caution let's just say that because,
Speaker 3: everybody not, everybody most people have ulterior motives when it
Speaker 3: comes to this kind of.
Speaker 2: Stuff, well AND i also just, think AND i know
Speaker 2: we've been over this in the, past but every time
Speaker 2: a situation like this takes, place and this happens at
Speaker 2: both BY u And, utah there are fans reporting on
Speaker 2: this stuff like emotional fans correct where you'll you'll see
Speaker 2: these people on the sidelines like jumping around and Celebrating
Speaker 2: utah scores a, Touchdown they're jumping with the players in
Speaker 2: the end. ZONE byu scores a touchdown and they're literally
Speaker 2: celebrating in the scrum with the players and. Coaches and
Speaker 2: these are the people reporting on what's. Happening can we
Speaker 2: throw quotes reporting what's happening with both these, schools and
Speaker 2: again it is both they're like the ecosystem of propaganda
Speaker 2: coming FROM byu where they OWN BYU, tv and They.
Speaker 2: March these supposed journalists out ON tv every day to
Speaker 2: uh you, know uh to to to commentate on the state.
Speaker 1: Of the program and report what's actually going.
Speaker 2: On these ARE byu, employees and they ARE byu super.
Speaker 1: Fans they are, goobs.
Speaker 2: And it's the same thing that is happening with certain
Speaker 2: people that are Covering utah. Football are just, fans it is,
Speaker 2: all and they want to be in the good graces
Speaker 2: of the coaches and the. Administrators they don't give a
Speaker 2: rip about bringing accurate information to. People they just want
Speaker 2: to send something out and then Hopefully Morgan scalley reads
Speaker 2: their tweet and it was, like, YES i love that,
Speaker 2: guy or Hopefully Jay hill is WATCHING BYU. Tv and
Speaker 2: these quasi media members that are simply propagating information from the,
Speaker 2: university they just want to endear. Themselves they want to
Speaker 2: Be they're not on the team they want to. Be
Speaker 2: they're not in the locker room they want to. Be
Speaker 2: they want to be part of the. Program they don't
Speaker 2: want to be part of like actual journalistic integrity where
Speaker 2: they're bringing real information to.
Speaker 3: People and this is not specific To utah OR. Byu,
Speaker 3: unfortunately this is a this is this is a permeating
Speaker 3: issue At division one colleges and frankly in professional sports.
Speaker 2: Nationwide it comes down to a, question what do what
Speaker 2: do fans?
Speaker 1: Want?
Speaker 2: Do what do people? Want what does the Average utah fan?
Speaker 2: Want what does the AVERAGE byu? Fan do they want
Speaker 2: the echo chamber where they just fed what they already
Speaker 2: believe or did they actually want the?
Speaker 3: Truth, no they want they want the echo, chamber and
Speaker 3: they're ready to unsheed their swords when anybody comes along
Speaker 3: and maybe says. Otherwise and that is that is human.
Speaker 3: Nature that is A i mean you talk to you
Speaker 3: talk to the Goat Spencer hall all the time about
Speaker 3: tribalism and like why college football is so unique compared
Speaker 3: to really any other. Sport it's impact and its overall
Speaker 3: effect on people resonates differently THAN i think a lot
Speaker 3: of professional sports because a lot of it is so
Speaker 3: much more community. Driven it is you've invested time and,
Speaker 3: Money you've sat, time you wasted time in classes in
Speaker 3: the library and the study. Hall you've paid thousands of
Speaker 3: dollars to get a piece of paper from this you,
Speaker 3: know respective, university wherever you, went and, yeah you like
Speaker 3: going to football, games and football games are fun when
Speaker 3: your team. Wins but we are now to the point
Speaker 3: where a, lot a lot needs to be done in
Speaker 3: order to properly get the point across on who is,
Speaker 3: independent who is bringing information from two sides of the,
Speaker 3: story not just, one because that is also a huge
Speaker 3: part of this as. Well it's like you may have
Speaker 3: somebody on staff who's telling you to do something and you,
Speaker 3: know feeding you, information and that's going to be one,
Speaker 3: sided and your, job if you are a independent, reporter
Speaker 3: is to verify. That and a lot of, times most
Speaker 3: of the time NOW i would say that that's not, happening.
Speaker 2: You, know back to the whole dynamic of the the
Speaker 2: undercurrent of fear permeating throughout a fan. BASE i just,
Speaker 2: think AND i don't know, this this is my, opinion
Speaker 2: hence me saying it into a microphone on a radio.
Speaker 2: SHOW i also think there's a lot of fear among
Speaker 2: The utah fan base of what The Nil collective In
Speaker 2: provo has to, offer The Royal Blue collective or whatever
Speaker 2: the hell that. Is you, know when you hear seven
Speaker 2: million dollars for aj The banter for five months of,
Speaker 2: basketball When Robert wright signs a million dollar contract to play,
Speaker 2: basketball At baylor and B wyu triples it of, course,
Speaker 2: though well come, ON i, mean, like let's let's be adults, Here,
Speaker 2: okay let's be grown. Ups like, again they're gonna say
Speaker 2: what they, say but you have to kind of read
Speaker 2: between the lines and actually be authentic and truthful.
Speaker 1: About what really is going.
Speaker 2: On it is about the, money AND i do think
Speaker 2: for A utah, fan the fear is and What i've
Speaker 2: been told is b why you currently has nine seven
Speaker 2: figure donors And utah has, two and the two That
Speaker 2: utah has it's not hard to figure out their names around.
Speaker 2: Buildings SO i do think there's also a fear that
Speaker 2: Maybe utah financially is not in a place to keep
Speaker 2: up With Brigham. Young AND i don't know if that's.
Speaker 2: TRUE i don't have. NUMBERS i have no. Idea utah
Speaker 2: might be in a much better place with their collective
Speaker 2: The crimson Co active THAT i have any idea, about AND,
Speaker 2: byu maybe it isn't in a place where they're. Collected
Speaker 2: i'm just drawing conclusions here because at least on the basketball,
Speaker 2: Side BYU's riding massive. Checks now on the football, side
Speaker 2: it's hard to know because AFTER byu springball wrapped, Up
Speaker 2: Harrison taggart really good starting, Linebacker Keelan, marion really good wide,
Speaker 2: Receiver All american. Returner they both hit the transfer, portal
Speaker 2: and then the tribunes report about the bro, whoever whoever
Speaker 2: the bro is that runs THE Byu Royal blue, collective
Speaker 2: THE mlm brow whoever that guy, is you shout out
Speaker 2: to our GUY keV holding the meeting last year and
Speaker 2: basically dressing down the, roster saying we're cutting your pay
Speaker 2: because you had a bad. Year SO i don't know
Speaker 2: if the football program receives the same nil that the
Speaker 2: basketball program, Does BUT i think from A utah fan,
Speaker 2: perspective another portion of the fear that is driving these
Speaker 2: reactions because you fear what you don't, know and the
Speaker 2: emotional reactions line.
Speaker 1: Of people that are just horribly.
Speaker 2: Behaved it is a byproduct of what you don't, know
Speaker 2: what you're scared, of and if you're A utah, fan
Speaker 2: the fear is are we keeping up financially with the
Speaker 2: other programs across the, country namely the one that's forty
Speaker 2: miles down.
Speaker 3: SOUTH i would say it's predominantly just that. One, Honestly
Speaker 3: LIKE i, said if this was any other, SCHOOL i
Speaker 3: don't think there would be as much of a social media,
Speaker 3: uprising so to. SPEAK i just really don't until there
Speaker 3: is a set rules, set you, know rules and regulations in,
Speaker 3: Place until there is a commissioner who can dictate what
Speaker 3: is you, know within the bounds of proper you, know
Speaker 3: uses of nil and all of this, stuff it is
Speaker 3: going to just be off the wall twenty four to.
Speaker 3: Seven and if you are a, coach you signed up for.
Speaker 3: It if you're a, player you signed up for. It
Speaker 3: if you're a, fan you need to understand that you're
Speaker 3: signing up for it. Too AND i THINK i said
Speaker 3: this like In January, february, man like you should not
Speaker 3: be up in arms about anything until second, week third
Speaker 3: week of, Camp, kyle until you're a week away from
Speaker 3: the season, opener because you don't know what the roster's
Speaker 3: going to look. Like and until, then it can. Change
Speaker 3: it can, change it can. Change and it's maybe hyperbolic
Speaker 3: to say, that like everybody is just trying to get
Speaker 3: through the, day but it kind of is the reality of,
Speaker 3: It like nobody really knows what's around the.
Speaker 2: Corner, well and you, know, yeah all that is, correct
Speaker 2: AND i will add, THIS i think back to the whole, like,
Speaker 2: HEY i was told that it wasn't about the. Money
Speaker 2: like when you hear things LIKE xbyu athletes going on
Speaker 2: radio shows and saying we don't outbid, teams we out love,
Speaker 2: them we out develop, them and we outserve, them and you're, like,
Speaker 2: dude shut.
Speaker 3: Up the former editor Of The Desert, News Clark, gilbert,
Speaker 3: tweeted who's Now like some guy at LIKE Byu idaho
Speaker 3: like made a stink about HOW byu is not in
Speaker 3: the business of paying.
Speaker 2: Players but it's stuff like that that is so offensive
Speaker 2: because don't tell me That i'm not seeing What i'm,
Speaker 2: Seeing like you're Basically Steve bannon and you're muddying the
Speaker 2: waters and you're flooding the zone with misinformation to distract
Speaker 2: people from what's actually going.
Speaker 1: On it's the same.
Speaker 2: Thing don't do, That AND i do think that's where
Speaker 2: a lot of the vitrio comes, From like this hubris
Speaker 2: and this unauthentic approach where you are lying to me
Speaker 2: about what's going. On you are outbidding teams for, players
Speaker 2: and guess what good job It.
Speaker 1: Just that's the. Deal just just admit.
Speaker 2: Life you should be taking victory, laps but just don't
Speaker 2: lie about what you're taking the victory lap. ABOUT i
Speaker 2: have long said. Whenever when nil became a reality the first,
Speaker 2: DAY i, said you know, who this is good news
Speaker 2: for B. Yu they've got a ton of rich alums
Speaker 2: that have started. Companies summer in jail and they've got
Speaker 2: a ton of rich. Alums the yes shout out to the.
Speaker 2: Bull are you gonna Aten alphacon this? Year i'll go
Speaker 2: if you, Go i'll go for, Sure i'll go If
Speaker 2: meg comes with.
Speaker 3: Us how long will it take for me to get kicked?
Speaker 1: Out, oh you'll be kicked out.
Speaker 3: IMMEDIATELY i don't even think they let me through the.
Speaker 1: Door, yeah you might not get. IN i can dress the. Part,
Speaker 1: YEAH i can figure it. Out, OKAY i can pretend
Speaker 1: LIKE i belong.
Speaker 3: To and maybe pluck the eyebrows a little, bit cut.
Speaker 2: The, hair probably, short do some some, spikes probably some,
Speaker 2: creatine a little skinny right, now you, know bulk up protein,
Speaker 2: powder max out three credit cards to rent a hummer
Speaker 2: or something for the. Weekend, indeed BUT byu has a
Speaker 2: lot of alums that have started companies that have made
Speaker 2: a lot of, money and a lot of alums that
Speaker 2: care about sports sound, there AND i said a ton
Speaker 2: a lot like aon. Does those guys want to open
Speaker 2: up their, wallet they will be able to get anybody
Speaker 2: who just cares about money and wants to get. Paid
Speaker 2: and most of these young, athletes they want to get.
Speaker 2: PAID Aj debants is not pumped About. Swig he's pumped
Speaker 2: about seven million dollars as we talked. About you know,
Speaker 2: AGAIN i don't know if the football program is receiving
Speaker 2: the same nil that the basketball program, is BUT byu
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Speaker 3: Get it's also very Like i'm going to Go i'm
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Speaker 3: Of utah like smile to your, face but kind.
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Speaker 3: Right like it is so on brand that it is
Speaker 3: kind of like coming out the. Years, basically, yeah that's
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Speaker 2: Say all, right last, Thing the fact of the matter
Speaker 2: is you tosk out work to do say what you
Speaker 2: want About Zach williams lack of production to lean in
Speaker 2: to about what he could. BE i think most people
Speaker 2: felt like he was going to be wide receiver one
Speaker 2: and he's.
Speaker 3: Gone.
Speaker 2: Uh we just talked about RSLs and ability to get
Speaker 2: difference makers across the line prior to. Today If utah
Speaker 2: doesn't add a couple of wide receivers prior To, friday.
Speaker 3: What's the fall going to look? Like Can Big Willie
Speaker 3: goles s?
Speaker 1: CATCH i don't, know left to. See they need, Help, chris.
Speaker 3: They need they need. HELP i know some of the
Speaker 3: portal bros have you, know tweeted that they have like
Speaker 3: a guy from McNee state coming to visit. Sick we don't.
Speaker 3: Listen we never knew what it was going to look like,
Speaker 3: Anyways so anybody, again anybody who was telling you that
Speaker 3: this offense was going to be historic was lying to.
Speaker 3: You and who, knows Maybe Jason beck finds a way
Speaker 3: to incorporate all the new running, backs or finds a
Speaker 3: way to incorporate the tight ends that so many people
Speaker 3: thought the death of twelve personnel was on. Forever maybe,
Speaker 3: Not maybe it'll maybe it's been. Resurrected but the reality
Speaker 3: is you have to look at brass tacks and brass.
Speaker 3: Taxes they have a guy who played It Utah State
Speaker 3: Auto tia local. KID i think he statistically had the
Speaker 3: most you, know touchdowns last year currently on the on
Speaker 3: The utah. Roster then he had. Seven the kid From
Speaker 3: New mexico had like seven hundred. Yards the dude From
Speaker 3: Mississippi state creed forget his last, name yep. Uh these
Speaker 3: are all guys who were playing the role of you,
Speaker 3: know supplementary players where they came. FROM i just don't
Speaker 3: know if these are guys that are going to be
Speaker 3: able to come in and be the types of leaders
Speaker 3: statistically That utah. Needs and who knows, again nobody anybody
Speaker 3: that tells you they've been. Grinding Jason beck tape From
Speaker 3: New mexico's lying to. You so just take a. Breath
Speaker 3: if you need a, libation take, it if you need a,
Speaker 3: waterloo if you need a spin, drift enjoy the summer and.
Speaker 2: Chill sponge drift sounds lovely right. Now just so you,
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Speaker 2: One been friend of the. Program Patrick, manning managing partner
Speaker 2: of The Black Desert, resort joins us on A. Wednesday,
Speaker 2: Patrick Happy, wednesday, sir how are?
Speaker 10: You i'm doing, Great, spence how you?
Speaker 8: Been i'm?
Speaker 2: Good DO i complain now THAT i can't get a
Speaker 2: tea time At Black? Desert do we save that for?
Speaker 10: Later, yeah let's say that one.
Speaker 1: Later all, right fair, enough fair.
Speaker 2: Enough i'm coming down To Saint george In, may and
Speaker 2: UH i inquired In february and unfortunately you guys were.
Speaker 1: Packed but all, Good all.
Speaker 2: Good here's WHERE i want to, Start, Patrick what have
Speaker 2: you guys learned that you're hoping to kind of improve
Speaker 2: upon as THE lpga and then THE Pga tour is
Speaker 2: returning To Black.
Speaker 1: Desert, yeah great.
Speaker 11: Question you.
Speaker 10: Know, first hats off to our tournament. Team they are
Speaker 10: spectacular and they did such a great job are on
Speaker 10: our INAUGURAL pga. TOURNAMENT i think one of the things
Speaker 10: that a couple of things that we, learned even though
Speaker 10: it's like operationally THE pga said it was like it
Speaker 10: was a tenth year. Tournament it was run so. Smoothly
Speaker 10: BUT i think two things that were improving upon is
Speaker 10: there was a bottleneck between tea boxes one and ten
Speaker 10: that created, us you, know some slow down for spectators
Speaker 10: and you, know and we just reconfigured the t boxes
Speaker 10: so now that is rectified and will not be a.
Speaker 10: Bottleneck and you, know almost every tournament has one, somewhere
Speaker 10: but that was the only one we found and we've corrected.
Speaker 10: It the other thing is THAT i think we learned
Speaker 10: that having three story structures are probably just too tall
Speaker 10: because unless you're sitting on the third floor along the drink,
Speaker 10: rail you can't see the. Action so we're probably going
Speaker 10: to go wider with the, stands or we are rather
Speaker 10: going wider and not as not as many. Stories it'll
Speaker 10: be more efficient use of. Space so but you, know
Speaker 10: that's those are pretty small tweaks to an otherwise really
Speaker 10: well run.
Speaker 2: Tournament what has been the reaction from both THE Lpga
Speaker 2: tour and THE Pga tour to just the? EXPERIENCE i,
Speaker 2: MEAN i MEAN i did have an opportunity to play
Speaker 2: down there a couple of years ago when you guys
Speaker 2: first opened, up AND I i MEAN i was blown.
Speaker 2: Away it is first class the way you guys have
Speaker 2: gone about just the entire, experience not just the.
Speaker 1: GOLF i, mean the clubhouse is, great the food is.
Speaker 2: Good the caddies we had were really really, great great
Speaker 2: young men and enjoyed the experience start to. Finish but
Speaker 2: from a professional, standpoint what's the feedback you guys have
Speaker 2: received now that you are officially of course that has
Speaker 2: hosted AN lpga and A Pga tour.
Speaker 1: Event, yeah we.
Speaker 10: Haven't this coming up in next week will be our
Speaker 10: FIRST lpga tournament that we've, hosted but having THE pga behind.
Speaker 10: IT i don't want to name, drop but one of
Speaker 10: the large names on the tour with a huge following
Speaker 10: told the president of THE Pga tour that The Black
Speaker 10: Desert resort, experience the golf, course just the overall, package
Speaker 10: was his, words the best stop on the. Tour that
Speaker 10: was pretty lofty accolades. THERE i think overall just you,
Speaker 10: know the players being able to get into their condos
Speaker 10: that were All they, had their own buildings.
Speaker 9: That no one else was.
Speaker 10: In so being able to get to their hotel room
Speaker 10: and then get down to the locker, rooms and then
Speaker 10: into player only, dining into caddie, dining and into fitness
Speaker 10: all without interfacing public. Interface that doesn't exist anywhere else
Speaker 10: on the, tour and SO i think the player experience
Speaker 10: when they're outside the ropes was a premium experience for.
Speaker 10: Them and then of course inside the ropes the course is.
Speaker 10: GREAT i, mean, SO i think THE pga was very
Speaker 10: enthusied about the tournament and THE lpga you, know they
Speaker 10: haven't played, yet but they're very excited that we are
Speaker 10: celebrating the women the way we are with the private
Speaker 10: jets to pick them up and stay at the resort for,
Speaker 10: free just really rolling out the red carpet for the,
Speaker 10: ladies and they're just. Enthusiastic how over the top we're
Speaker 10: going rolling.
Speaker 3: Out the red.
Speaker 2: CARPET i misspoke because WHAT i read is THE lpga
Speaker 2: tour is returning to utahb and now returning to.
Speaker 1: The Black Desert.
Speaker 2: Resort because to your, point this is the first time
Speaker 2: the field for THE lpga.
Speaker 1: Events what are some of the? Highlights what can you
Speaker 1: share with?
Speaker 10: Us, well you can go TO lpga dot com and
Speaker 10: click On Black desert and click on the entries and
Speaker 10: you can see the entire. Field BUT i can tell
Speaker 10: you that we HAD i don't know if it's a,
Speaker 10: record it's pretty close out of one hundred and forty
Speaker 10: four player, field we had over one hundred and ninety
Speaker 10: around one hundred and ninety five players register for the,
Speaker 10: tournament AND i think we have, one any one of
Speaker 10: the top twenty five players in the world in the,
Speaker 10: field and so we've got a stacked a stacked. Field
Speaker 10: AND i think a lot of that is because you
Speaker 10: know the PLAYER a lot of THE i know a
Speaker 10: lot of THE lpga players and they've told me, that you,
Speaker 10: know when they Saw Black desert on television WITH pg
Speaker 10: they were blown. Away they're just, like we want to play.
Speaker 10: That and then if you're going to send us, jets, like,
Speaker 10: yeah we're going to show.
Speaker 1: Up love? It, WELL i love.
Speaker 2: It as far as the public down there where you're,
Speaker 2: located and certainly up here, too you, know, volunteers opportunities
Speaker 2: for people to get.
Speaker 1: Involved what can you shed a little light on.
Speaker 10: That, yeah there's a there's A Black Desert events dot
Speaker 10: com is where you can go for, anything, tickets general, ADMISSION, vip, hospitality,
Speaker 10: sponsorships and also the opportunity to. VOLUNTEER i think you,
Speaker 10: know we probably have a few spots left for volunteering
Speaker 10: and we have uh some tickets still. Remaining the ticket
Speaker 10: sales have been fantastic And I'M i think more than,
Speaker 10: anything WHAT i want to accomplish from this tournament is
Speaker 10: that when this is air and over two hundred and twenty,
Speaker 10: countries that the world sees That utah showed up for these,
Speaker 10: women which is. Fantastic so but, Anyway black Dozard events
Speaker 10: Dot com you can go to.
Speaker 8: Them BEFORE i.
Speaker 10: Forget, vince this was just a kind of a new.
Speaker 10: Development we partnered with The bank Of utah and for
Speaker 10: every general admission an adult ticket that's, purchased and they're
Speaker 10: about fifty five bucks a. Day for every general admission,
Speaker 10: ticket The bank Of utah will buy two tickets for
Speaker 10: kids to, Join so you, know two adult tickets gets
Speaker 10: your four.
Speaker 8: Kids that's.
Speaker 2: Awesome on the men's side of, Things october twenty third
Speaker 2: through the twenty sixth is when The Black Desert championship
Speaker 2: will be played at your.
Speaker 1: Course give me some personal.
Speaker 2: HIGHLIGHTS i, mean you're the guy credited with the vision
Speaker 2: that made this, happen And i'm always very impressed when
Speaker 2: visionary actually execute a plan that that lands the plane in.
Speaker 2: Place what were some of your personal highlights after witness
Speaker 2: seeing that event last year won By matt, McCarty.
Speaker 10: Well one of one of my and and let me
Speaker 10: just say that about the extent of my expertise and
Speaker 10: involvement in this tournament was calling THE pga and telling
Speaker 10: him THAT i want TO i want A pga tour
Speaker 10: and selling him on. It then THEN i had to
Speaker 10: hire people or we had to hire people that are
Speaker 10: really really smart and good at this to pull it all.
Speaker 10: Off so BUT i think one of my favorite moments
Speaker 10: was when, UH i was asked to hand the trophy
Speaker 10: off To matt McCarty and AND i just said to
Speaker 10: the crowd like, this this isn't About Black, desert this
Speaker 10: is About. Utah and SO i asked the governor to
Speaker 10: hand off the trophy h on behalf of the state Of.
Speaker 10: Utah and then for the, Women i've Got Petra, Henderson
Speaker 10: Lieutenant governor is going to hand it off to the
Speaker 10: to the lady that wins this. One but but after
Speaker 10: the trophy, ceremony like an hour and a half, Later
Speaker 10: i'm at home now because it was, exhausted and a
Speaker 10: friend of mine called me, said you're not going to
Speaker 10: believe What matt McCarty is doing right.
Speaker 9: Now AND i said what he.
Speaker 10: Said an hour and a half after he wins THE pga,
Speaker 10: tournament he's now in the twentieth, hole which is our sports,
Speaker 10: bar Playing Black desert on the Track man. Simulator so
Speaker 10: that was pretty.
Speaker 1: Fun that's. Great that was.
Speaker 2: Great what's the long term? Play, Actually, no before we go,
Speaker 2: THERE i wanted to ask you BECAUSE i read that
Speaker 2: you first came across the property twenty years, Ago so
Speaker 2: what was the what was the origin Story patrick of
Speaker 2: when you first discovered the land and when you decided
Speaker 2: that this was what you wanted to do with, it
Speaker 2: and how did this all kind of come to.
Speaker 10: Fruition, yeah so as somebody told, me you, KNOW i
Speaker 10: was living In kentucky And florida at the, time and
Speaker 10: somebody told ME i should go check out In, trotta
Speaker 10: Which Black desert used to be within the footprint Of,
Speaker 10: Intrada and so they told me come check it. Out
Speaker 10: and the short version is my wife AND i came.
Speaker 10: OUT i stood on the land and the best WAY
Speaker 10: i can describe it is it was. SUFFOCATING i just
Speaker 10: had this overwhelming feeling THAT i was supposed to sell
Speaker 10: everything and move here and just do, this and you,
Speaker 10: know and it took convincing my wife a little bit
Speaker 10: to do, that but came out here and it it hit.
Speaker 10: Me you, know we have six million visitors a. Year
Speaker 10: we have twice as many visitors As Park city. Has
Speaker 10: and there wasn't a there. There there was nothing like
Speaker 10: you go on a hike and then you, know what
Speaker 10: do you? Do you go to, dinner and then it's,
Speaker 10: over what do you? Do and so the first part
Speaker 10: of the vision was the boardwalk with you, know fifteen
Speaker 10: restaurants and shops and cobblestone streets with no cars and
Speaker 10: strolling and live music and a place for people to
Speaker 10: go that's got a sense of. Community and then from
Speaker 10: there it was, okay now we also need to build
Speaker 10: a nice, hotel you, know more of a base camp
Speaker 10: for all the state national. Parks and then it was, like,
Speaker 10: well if we're going to do, that we need other
Speaker 10: things to do when people aren't. Hiking so let's build
Speaker 10: a world class golf, Course let's buy build a world
Speaker 10: class water. Park let's you, know just all of these
Speaker 10: things that make it a world class destination resort that
Speaker 10: the area, really in my, opinion it really. Needed SO i.
Speaker 2: BELIEVE i asked you this last, time and genuinely just
Speaker 2: curious because just getting A pga event and our state
Speaker 2: is pretty. Remarkable but as a result of where you're
Speaker 2: at on the, calendar it's going to be tough to
Speaker 2: attract some of the top, shelf top name.
Speaker 1: Guys, now the field was fun last.
Speaker 2: Year you had golfers With utah, ties and you had
Speaker 2: some former major, champs and you had some names that people. Know,
Speaker 2: ULTIMATELY i just wonder if you're still envisioning a day
Speaker 2: where the event on THE pga side of things is
Speaker 2: on a different spot in the calendar in order to
Speaker 2: attract some of the top name.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 10: Yeah about ALL i can say about that is that
Speaker 10: we're never you, know we love having THE pga tournament
Speaker 10: here and if it remained in the, fall we continue
Speaker 10: to host it and love having. It but of course
Speaker 10: we're always going to push for the, next the next biggest.
Speaker 3: Thing so.
Speaker 10: That there's been, discussions but there's not any imminent, movement
Speaker 10: but there are.
Speaker 9: Discussions have you had.
Speaker 2: Any discussions with One Tony final about potentially playing this
Speaker 2: year regardless of where he's at In?
Speaker 10: October, well he told, Me he told me last year
Speaker 10: when he couldn't make it because he was captaining his
Speaker 10: or co captaining his son's first national tournament that he
Speaker 10: promised you would play this. Year i've talked to, him
Speaker 10: BUT i have not started to put the pressure on him.
Speaker 10: Yet so if you're listening To, Tony i'm coming for, You.
Speaker 1: Okay tony's a big listener to the.
Speaker 2: SHOW i can tell you that he's a big fan
Speaker 2: of the, program so hopefully he's tuned. IN i just,
Speaker 2: LOOK i don't mean to believe it a point at.
Speaker 2: All it, just you, know watching that last, year just
Speaker 2: as a GO i am Picturing scottie And rory And
Speaker 2: JAT i would imagine as a guy who clearly is
Speaker 2: a bit of a visionary and looks at things the
Speaker 2: way you do that some of those some of those
Speaker 2: visions dance in your.
Speaker 1: Head is that fair to say.
Speaker 10: It's fair to say that that was that was the
Speaker 10: case before the ink was dry on the on the, sure.
Speaker 1: Sure how's your? Game by the, way what kind of
Speaker 1: player are?
Speaker 6: YOU i am AN i am a past.
Speaker 8: PLAYER i.
Speaker 10: Have not you, Know i'm embarrassed to say this BECAUSE
Speaker 10: i used to play thirty six holes a, day seven
Speaker 10: days a, week and no EXAGGERATION i have not even
Speaker 10: played black does are?
Speaker 8: Yet?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Why what is going?
Speaker 10: On partially because things are really really super busy and
Speaker 10: the thought of me being four hours behind on emails
Speaker 10: and texts and everything is. Exhausting Sure also just WHEN
Speaker 10: i you, Know i've got, sixids and my first oldest
Speaker 10: three weren't didn't want anything to do with, golf and
Speaker 10: then my younger three do, now but my older, didn't
Speaker 10: and it just kind of got me out of. Golf
Speaker 10: and SO i like to host the. TOURNAMENTS i love
Speaker 10: to show the players a great. TIME i love to
Speaker 10: have that watch the fans have a good. Time AND
Speaker 10: i don't need TO i don't need the golf to do.
Speaker 2: That, okay fair, enough because you know that gives me
Speaker 2: confidence that you can be an addict in, recovery because
Speaker 2: at this, Point i'm very MUCH i don't play thirty
Speaker 2: six olds seven days a. Week if if IF i,
Speaker 2: COULD i. Would i'll tell you that, much just out of.
Speaker 2: Curiosity who are some of the uh just like big
Speaker 2: name people that you've had down, there that you've hosted down,
Speaker 2: there outside of like pro, GOLFERS i would imagine you
Speaker 2: get people from all around the world wanting to play the.
Speaker 10: Track, yeah, yeah, SURE i mean we've had quite a.
Speaker 10: Bit we Had Drew. BREES i don't know IF i
Speaker 10: If i'm super comfortable name dropping who's been here or.
Speaker 10: Not there's we've had some high profile.
Speaker 3: Rock.
Speaker 10: Stars we've had some high profile country. Singers we've you,
Speaker 10: know you, know we've we've had quite a.
Speaker 1: Few give me one, Name give me one rock star, Name,
Speaker 1: patrick give me one.
Speaker 9: Name, YEAH i can't do, that all, right all, right.
Speaker 2: Fine, fine uh, no that's, fine that's. Fine uh THEN
Speaker 2: i will end asking. You how does a humble servant
Speaker 2: of the people that does four hours of sports soccer
Speaker 2: radio every day get a tea?
Speaker 1: Time how does that?
Speaker 6: Work you text?
Speaker 1: Me, boom there we.
Speaker 3: Go.
Speaker 1: Porter do you Have Patrick manning cell phone?
Speaker 2: NUMBER i got you all, right done and, Done done
Speaker 2: and done BECAUSE i had such a great, experience AND i,
Speaker 2: promise based off of what you've built down, THERE i
Speaker 2: will not text you every day BECAUSE i feel like
Speaker 2: we should be best. Friends But i'll just text you
Speaker 2: maybe once or twice a year to get tea.
Speaker 10: Times if that, works you got it whatever you.
Speaker 1: Need thank, you.
Speaker 2: SIR i appreciate the. Time best of luck with the.
Speaker 2: Event and hopefully we'll see you.
Speaker 9: Soon, okay, yep Thanks.
Speaker 1: Vince all, right there we.
Speaker 2: Go Patrick, manning managing partner At Recapital, partners the man
Speaker 2: behind the vision that brought Us Black Desert, resort and
Speaker 2: my new best.
Speaker 1: Friend no big. Deal do you really have a cell?
Speaker 3: PHONE i?
Speaker 1: Do can you please send it to me right?
Speaker 3: Now, yeah we'll connect you. Guys sounds like you might
Speaker 3: be good to.
Speaker 2: Go so THE Lpga, TOUR i misread it, earlier is
Speaker 2: returning To, utah but not returning to The Black Desert
Speaker 2: championship because ultimately this is the first. Time, so As patrick,
Speaker 2: referenced if you want to volunteer down, there there are
Speaker 2: still some opportunities if you go To Black Desert championship dot.
Speaker 2: Com and then THE Pga tour will make its return
Speaker 2: coming up In. October and, yeah last year it was
Speaker 2: a cool. Field i'm not saying that it, wasn't but
Speaker 2: it just as a result of where it is on the.
Speaker 2: Calendar a lot of the better players in the world
Speaker 2: of professional golf do not need the, points do not
Speaker 2: need The FedEx points because most of the events are past.
Speaker 2: Us we Had Lucas glover last, year we had a
Speaker 2: lot of golfers With utah, ties but No tony Fenw
Speaker 2: matt McCarty one. It Steven jeger is a really good.
Speaker 2: Player Lucas glover finished. Third, YEAH i Mean Harris english
Speaker 2: was in the. Field there were some other decent. Names
Speaker 2: but If patrick and his partners at some point could
Speaker 2: potentially move this to maybe spring or early, summer maybe
Speaker 2: at some point we will See Scotty, Scheffler rory, McElroy Justin,
Speaker 2: Thomas Jordan speith and some of the star golfers in
Speaker 2: the world of professional golf descend upon our, state which
Speaker 2: would be very very.
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Speaker 2: something that, well he, said told you SO byu fans
Speaker 2: were mad at me that year WHEN i said that
Speaker 2: he was never going to be a high caliber or
Speaker 2: high QUALITY nba. Player it's not a knock on, him
Speaker 2: that's just who he was as a, player but a,
Speaker 2: really really great, dude an unbelievably, electric exciting college basketball.
Speaker 2: Player college basketball fans in the state will always look
Speaker 2: back on what that team could have been If Brandon
Speaker 2: davies was not suspended for THE Ncaa, tournament which just
Speaker 2: is you, know never. Mind But jimmer has been on
Speaker 2: the show multiple. TIMES i consider him a friend as
Speaker 2: much as you can as a media. MEMBER i don't
Speaker 2: necessarily exist in that space quite a. Bit but drafted
Speaker 2: by The, kings never fully worked, out spent some time With,
Speaker 2: chicago spent some time With New, orleans spent some time
Speaker 2: With New, york spent some time With, phoenix ALSO G
Speaker 2: league In San, antonio and then went over To china
Speaker 2: where he was THE mvp of The Chinese Basketball association
Speaker 2: in twenty. Seventeen he would drop like sixty seventy points,
Speaker 2: regularly became a real legend over, there and kind of
Speaker 2: ended his career in the three on three tournament with The,
Speaker 2: olympics BUT i Know jimmer has faced a lot of,
Speaker 2: pushback a lot of hate over the, years people labeling
Speaker 2: him as a bust and. SUCH i kind of equate,
Speaker 2: it AND i have equated it to The Zach wilson.
Speaker 2: Situation LIKE i, thought it was pretty easy to see
Speaker 2: That jimmer was never going to be a GOOD nba.
Speaker 2: Player but every Time jimmer would take a step down in,
Speaker 2: competition he would dominate because he had this skill set
Speaker 2: where if you allowed him to dominate the basketball against lesser,
Speaker 2: competition he was so dynamic with the ball in his
Speaker 2: hand and his ability to shoot off the dribble that
Speaker 2: he was going to be able to get. Buckets he
Speaker 2: was never a great catch and shoot. Guy that was
Speaker 2: kind of his main. Deal he was never able to
Speaker 2: get a shot off AGAINST nba defenders because he really
Speaker 2: was more of a shoot it off the bounce, guy
Speaker 2: and he did not have the speed or the size
Speaker 2: to be able to get a shot off AGAINST nba.
Speaker 2: Defenders and also he was not quick enough to be
Speaker 2: AN nba point. Guard so NO nba coach was going
Speaker 2: to Give Jim erfredet the basketball the Way Dave rose
Speaker 2: gave him the.
Speaker 1: Basketball with the greenness of Green.
Speaker 2: Lights but then he would go down to THE G
Speaker 2: league and he would drop like forty AND byu fans
Speaker 2: like he just needs the right landing, spot he needs
Speaker 2: the right. Coaching no like IN byu fans doing this
Speaker 2: revisionist historian. Stuff, well if he was never drafted by The,
Speaker 2: kings they did him. Dirty he played For Greg, popovich
Speaker 2: he played For Alvin, gentry he played for some of
Speaker 2: the best offensive coaches in THE. Nba he could just
Speaker 2: never get a shot off the way that he did
Speaker 2: in college or In china or in THE G, league
Speaker 2: and that's why it never worked out on THE nba.
Speaker 2: Level BUT i don't Consider jimmer For debt a bust at.
Speaker 2: All glenn's Falls New, york this podunk town in Upstate
Speaker 2: New york and took the college basketball world by storm
Speaker 2: and ended up making millions of dollars playing, professionally even
Speaker 2: though it didn't work out in THE.
Speaker 1: Nba, porter give me A jimmer for. That Take jimmer, good.
Speaker 1: Dude in, fact reach.
Speaker 2: Out to, him please see if he'll come on the
Speaker 2: show now that he's announced his. Retirement but what do
Speaker 2: you make of this kind of fun ride That jimmer
Speaker 2: for dett took us all.
Speaker 4: On, yeah, man obviously one of the most exciting and
Speaker 4: entertaining basketball players at the college level that we've ever.
Speaker 3: Seen here in the state Of.
Speaker 4: Utah and you can you can start a list if
Speaker 4: you want, to but there's a really short, one maybe
Speaker 4: three players, long when you're talking about collegiate basketball players
Speaker 4: in the state Of utah as far as how good
Speaker 4: they actually were while they were. Here now you mentioned,
Speaker 4: it THE nba stuff didn't. WORK i like you kind
Speaker 4: of saw that With Jim er just his skill set.
Speaker 3: Similar To.
Speaker 4: ZACH i like the parallel you. MADE i think Obviously
Speaker 4: jimmer was a much better college, player but the transition
Speaker 4: right from the college level to the pros gave them similar,
Speaker 4: STRUGGLES i think in finding their. Footing and you, know
Speaker 4: With jim Or, yeah maybe AN nba bust when you
Speaker 4: look at just the totality of what he was expected
Speaker 4: to maybe. Do but like you, said spent a decade
Speaker 4: fifteen years playing professional, basketball made a bowload of, money
Speaker 4: grew the game, overseas and had a really, really really
Speaker 4: good career even on the home of the. Youths you
Speaker 4: can admit. That and like you, said a good guy
Speaker 4: always always happy to join the shows and a net
Speaker 4: benefit to the the state of sport when it comes To,
Speaker 4: utah especially on the hoop.
Speaker 2: SIDE i was court side When jimmer dropped forty seven
Speaker 2: on the utes here The huntsman hit a half court
Speaker 2: shot at the buzzer at. HALFTIME i was court side
Speaker 2: watching him drop forty three On Kawhi leonard In San
Speaker 2: Diego state back in the Old Mound West conference. Tournament,
Speaker 2: see he was a joy to, watch and he's a
Speaker 2: really really good, dude and So i'm happy for. Him
Speaker 2: as we, say goobout, It, Jimmifer, dad he's officially retired
Speaker 2: from the game of. Basketball all, RIGHT nba playoffs, Tonight
Speaker 2: Stanley cup playoffs. Tonight but tomorrow it is THE Nfl Draft.
Speaker 2: Porter what comes our?
Speaker 1: Way on a draft day edition of the.
Speaker 4: Program on A thursday edition Of The Drive, Spence we'll
Speaker 4: start things off in studio with The Big, Dave Big Dave.
Speaker 4: Check its a lot of news ON rsl on kind
Speaker 4: of the state of sport in the market, here so
Speaker 4: plenty you can get to with One Dave. Check its
Speaker 4: talking to SOME nfl draft With Zach, Moss Mike yam
Speaker 4: with a LITTLE nfl action as. Well and YES i
Speaker 4: did shoot a text to our Guy Jim er for a.
Speaker 4: Debt we'll see if we get him on the. Show
Speaker 4: if not, tomorrow hopefully in the near. Future he's not
Speaker 4: as BUSY i guess not playing any.
Speaker 1: Basketball very.
Speaker 2: Nice, yeah it'd be good to catch up With Jim.
Speaker 2: Er but that'll be a Fun thursday. Show join us for.
Speaker 1: That we'll say.
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