WEBVTT 1 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:34.079 Welcome to episode five sixty six of five and Dive. 2 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:36.520 It is Monday of July twenty seventh. I'm your host, 3 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:39.679 Craig Gold, soon joined as usual by Patrick Dubuque and 4 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:43.600 Jeffrey pattern Nostro. We had a weekend. Do we have 5 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:44.520 any weekend? Banter? 6 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:49.960 Did I do? This weekend? Always a good time? And 7 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:51.960 I was just like, it's been one hundred and five 8 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:53.840 degrees basically every day and will continue to be one 9 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:57.960 hundred and five degrees every day this week. So I 10 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:01.520 just don't want to leave the house basically. 11 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:07.239 Yeah, understandable. Patrick. Are you still right now? Are you 12 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:07.920 still deck? 13 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:10.040 I am still deck the decks? 14 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:14.760 So Patrick, I have a question about the deck at 15 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.560 this point. I don't know how you value your own time. 16 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:19.680 Oh not very well? Apparently. 17 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:22.599 Why didn't you hire someone to do the deck? 18 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:29.319 Oh? Yeah, I value my time. Uh. The thing about 19 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:32.120 sweat equity is that when you don't have any money, 20 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:38.280 the calculation has become incredibly easy. Sure, so, no, it's 21 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:39.439 almost done all I have to do. 22 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:43.680 I'm I am, But I don't need help budgeting. 23 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:47.599 No, I don't anticipate. I didn't anticipate in needing a 24 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.040 third coat it needed a third coat, and so now 25 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:53.319 I have half of a coat. I need to put 26 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:56.239 a coat on half the deck. But everything's back on 27 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:58.680 it all the all the you know, the furniture that 28 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:00.519 we never use is back on the deck. 29 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.319 It's just not in the places you need. 30 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:05.680 No, No, I did. I did the half of the 31 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:08.879 deck where everything goes, and I haven't done the half 32 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:11.360 of the deck where in the middle where people walk. 33 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:16.599 So so three four more hours tops. 34 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.360 Okay, I can't I can't wait. 35 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:23.800 I know, I can't wait either. My arm hurts like 36 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:28.520 it's it's sore. My arm is sore ye, and it's like, luckily, 37 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:30.560 you know, I'm right handed, so it's not a heart attack. 38 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:31.800 Otherwise I'd be constantly worried. 39 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:35.080 Abou See, this is one of the advantages of being 40 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:38.120 from a bowling family and bowling since I was six 41 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:43.919 years old. I just have an entire network of contractors, 42 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:50.400 electricians pluing. Oh, I thought, No, I get people. I 43 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:52.719 make a phone call, I buy a bottle of whiskey 44 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.800 to have it there for after. Whatever gets done gets done. 45 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:01.560 For my part, I went to my first DC United 46 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.759 soccer game. You did the weekend first MLS scam ever 47 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.560 out you field. Very nice. Everyone has had told me that, 48 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:13.840 and uh, really quite nice. I got a ninety eighth 49 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:17.879 minute penalty on Vaar. They had to They did not 50 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.840 call it on the field, had to eventually go to 51 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:24.439 the screen. A bunch of people threw bottles down on 52 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:26.960 the field too. It was it was a little round 53 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:31.199 easy there. Yeah, but they got the pen. I sent 54 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:35.000 you the video, Jeff, you reviewed it. I mean easy 55 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:35.439 as you. 56 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:38.719 Like, good pen No stutter step, just picked up the corner. 57 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.960 Goalie, guess right, but he just yeah, I had conviction 58 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:45.280 on it, and yeah it was. It was a great time. 59 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:47.960 So that was That was my weekend. That was my bank. 60 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:49.520 Shall we just get into the show? 61 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:50.400 Sure? 62 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:54.240 All right? Our first segment because I'm free falling. I'm 63 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:56.400 not going to sing it. I'm free I'm free falling 64 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:02.360 it and I do know the reference. Yes, I apologize 65 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:10.520 the Marlins. We discussed them either last literally ago. I'm guessing, well, no, right, 66 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.400 but I think last one too. No, I guess we 67 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:15.400 just did the Jays and Cardinals last time. But the 68 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.839 time before that, I think we also discussed the Marlins 69 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:21.399 in the midst of like a six game losing stream. Well, 70 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:29.040 it's twelve. They've doubled it. Boy, I guess it's good 71 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:29.920 to have clarity. 72 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.160 Sure, I mean they they've lost twelve in a row, 73 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.959 and they are how many backgree three out? 74 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.079 Right now? It's the Yeah, I mean it's I guess 75 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:42.160 it's not that clear, but it is absolutely. 76 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:43.519 It's clear. 77 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:48.959 Yeah, I mean they've manufactured some pretext right right, like oh, 78 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.360 you're only three games out, but also you're the Marlins, 79 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.240 and that's not a shot at the Marlins specifically, like 80 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.560 as the team, but like in terms of how they 81 00:04:57.600 --> 00:04:59.879 want to operate, they didn't. They didn't want to. They 82 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.759 preferred to No, I don't. I'm sure if you I 83 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:05.040 don't know what they're gonna sell. 84 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:08.240 If you put the Golden lasso around Peter Bendix, I'm 85 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:15.759 sure he is not right. He's upset, like this is 86 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.800 our contra available now, and what's not particularly. 87 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:20.720 Yeah, I would well, I would think so. 88 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:25.399 Yeah, Like we've gone from maybe two weeks ago when 89 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.480 the Marlins were ten games over to being like okay, 90 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:33.160 like the only starters traded might be two Mets arms 91 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:36.439 and tom me Yuki Sigano, to like, now, okay, maybe 92 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:38.680 that you know the Tigers have faded a little bit, 93 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:41.079 so Google might be there. The Angels are at least 94 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.439 talking about det Meurs and Soriano, and the Marlins may 95 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.279 have faded enough. But Contra is available, so it does 96 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:49.800 make the pitching market a little more interesting theoretically. 97 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:56.839 Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I agree 98 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.120 on on al Contra. I think that would make a 99 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:02.160 lot of sense. I also don't know. I don't even 100 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:04.000 know how you value it at this. 101 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:05.879 Yeah, I don't. I mean I would say, if you 102 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.199 look at what Curtis Mead just went for and we 103 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.639 will in a minute, do you think about save your Edwards? 104 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:14.360 Do you think about Auto Lopez? You think about Sinel 105 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:16.639 hasmen that good? But do you think about like some 106 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.120 of your young cost controlled in fielders. 107 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:21.240 Well, Craig bar is looking only trade for one. 108 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.720 Of them, so they still want to stop apparently. 109 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:29.600 So yeah, I mean, I guess you can say you 110 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.519 think about it. I don't know how you scale up, yeah, 111 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.720 need to? I mean, like, okay, they've both broken out, 112 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.879 but Lopez is a premium defender at a premium position. 113 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.040 Me Meat is none of those things, the opposite of 114 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:45.560 those things. 115 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:49.399 Closer to a Butcher at a non premium position, right, 116 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:50.279 he might be. 117 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:52.040 Yes, I mean if you play out a Lopez at 118 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:53.879 second base, which you can in the Marlins have in 119 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:57.240 the past, the defensive gap between him and me at 120 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:58.879 that position is significant. 121 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:03.160 Yeah, I mean you're you're probably talking about literally the 122 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.920 top of the scale, and yes, somewhere related to the bottom. 123 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:09.600 You got to use the whole scale. And here it is. So, 124 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:12.040 I mean they have like they can trade a legal 125 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.199 trade fluchet, right, they have relievers they can move to 126 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:14.920 as sort of. 127 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:19.240 A Michael Peterson is one of their best relieverers, and 128 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:22.319 you could move. You can. 129 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.040 You can't trade, I mean you can, but you can't 130 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.240 pitch in the cold or apparently in Miami, so. 131 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:31.600 You really have to. 132 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:33.199 San Diego needs to come home. 133 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.160 I mean, like Contra is a big one here, right, 134 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:37.879 Like that's the. 135 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:40.160 I think that's right. 136 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.360 That's like they're like if they are, we'll get to 137 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:44.199 this when we get to the we're not really when 138 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.399 we talk about Tigers at least entertaining interests on schoobl 139 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.199 But like, once you make the decision to trade O Contre, 140 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.079 you just trade everything at that point, right, because you're 141 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.800 not really, But I. 142 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:58.600 Guess the point is, like, what is every No, Look, 143 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:02.240 you they can actually trade Edwards and Lopez and that 144 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:06.079 could be everything, but like then you're legitimately starting over, 145 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:07.560 and I don't think that may be. 146 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.879 And it's like not a particularly deep system and position 147 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:14.720 players either. And again I don't think, Look, will Attawalpez 148 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:17.639 be this good next year? Probably not, but like he'll still. 149 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:19.079 I think he's I think he's good. 150 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:22.000 Trade Like, you're not going to lose a ton of 151 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:25.879 trade value holding him for another year. 152 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:29.319 Well he hit three forty, probably not. Will will he 153 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:33.679 be a good player? I think so it might look 154 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:36.080 I don't even know that. I think he'll be as 155 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.879 as quote unquote bad, as as average as this I'm 156 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:41.720 gonna say, but like it might be more like the 157 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:47.840 Michel Garcia arc, right where he had that breakout and 158 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:50.759 everyone thought thinks, oh, this guy is legit, and I 159 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:52.480 think he is legit. And he's been a little bit 160 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:56.000 down from from that this He's been fairly down from 161 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.240 that this year, but is still in the range of like, 162 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:02.679 this is a good player still that that might be 163 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:03.720 more of what that arc. 164 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:09.519 Yeah, yeah, I mean it's in some ways it's a 165 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:19.120 there's an old poker analogy metaphor. I guess like once 166 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:21.960 you once you put your chips all in, it doesn't 167 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:24.159 matter what order the cards come out on. Come in 168 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.360 and come out in like they're two games under a 169 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:27.679 five hundred. I think we would have thought they were 170 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:30.399 two games under five hundred at this point as a team, 171 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:32.879 and just it's come out in an unusual order. 172 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:33.759 Yeah. 173 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.320 Now, is that I've never had a good grasp on 174 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:37.919 what I. 175 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.240 Don't I don't think it's might be an aphorism, yeah, 176 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.080 Patrick Patrick. 177 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:46.600 Uh, Okay, we don't know. I mean I almost is it. No, 178 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:48.759 I think it's more of a maximum. 179 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:51.200 Yeah, we'll go that. 180 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.919 All right, let's move on speaking of Patrick to the Mariners. 181 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:58.159 What are we speaking of Patrick? 182 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:03.120 The Mariners? 183 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.120 The Mariners scratched one victory out in their series against 184 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.840 the Rangers, mitigating some damage. 185 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:12.200 It could have been worse, could have been worse. 186 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.879 They are eight and eleven thus far in July, two 187 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:20.519 four game losing streaks. They've worked one three game win streaking. 188 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.720 There may he get harder to have than I. 189 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:24.519 Was gonna say. Lack of clarity. 190 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:28.279 I swear to God Logan Gilbert every time I look 191 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.600 at a pitching line, it's five and a third inning, 192 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.720 three three ear in runs, and he has a three 193 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:36.519 point four ERA, And I don't understand how it happens 194 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.960 because I know I would hear it if you like 195 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.919 pitch seven shut out, So it. 196 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:47.480 Must be just like, I don't even know what line. 197 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:50.080 What is the most anonymous pitching line for Loger Gilbert 198 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:53.720 to have. I guess it would be like six, six 199 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:57.840 and two. I guess just having a budget runs. 200 00:10:57.960 --> 00:10:59.879 You know, I think six and two is too good. 201 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.960 I think you got six and a third three three earned. 202 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:05.279 There's the problem is he is a three point four R. 203 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.039 So it's like when the individual samples like it's got 204 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:13.200 to be like once you go some yeah, yeah, yeah. 205 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.279 He's averaging five and five and two thirds and two 206 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:19.279 basically that's it. 207 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:21.799 Isn't that low. I feel like Gilbert generally has worked 208 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:23.440 pretty deep into games. 209 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:25.320 That's historically. 210 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:29.240 Yeah, he's averaging just over six a game. So I 211 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:34.759 don't know, it's it's just weird. None of these pictures 212 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:35.440 are as good as. 213 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.480 They should be, right, and the lineups terrible. 214 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:40.879 The Mariners are the only team in the division with 215 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:45.200 a positive run differential here we go. I don't know 216 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.759 that that matters. I mean, it's like the difference. 217 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:51.879 It's like just like one of these teams are good. 218 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.039 The Rangers. The Rangers are minus running five and the 219 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:59.879 Mariners are plus twelve. That's not a it's both not 220 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.759 think it's easy easily swamped. 221 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.960 Yeah, they are. 222 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:07.879 The Mariners are a game and a half back of 223 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:08.519 the Rangers. 224 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:13.440 I mean, look, I think on talent, say the line Craig, 225 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:14.679 the Mariners are. 226 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:16.720 The best team in this division. I don't know that 227 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.720 that matters. Like we can talk about on talent. We're 228 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:21.039 in July, late July. 229 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:23.600 What's cow Rally's current ops plus? 230 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.480 Right, And that's what I was going to say, right, Yeah, 231 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:27.840 I mean I'm gonna have to write about this, I 232 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:30.639 think at some point. But like, we've never seen this. 233 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:34.720 We've never seen this happen before. Like a guy going 234 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:37.120 from a fifty home run season to this. There's only 235 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:39.720 been one fifty home run season in baseball history that 236 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:40.600 was followed up by ball. 237 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:43.480 Yeah, sixty home run season, just yeah, I know, I know. 238 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:49.159 We could do sixty. It's even what was a shorter list, sixty. 239 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:51.759 It's Roger Merris getting a one twenty eight ops plus 240 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:55.679 for fifty home runs. We had Chris Davis having one 241 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.440 like bad season where he like he was in ninety seven, 242 00:12:58.679 --> 00:12:59.799 Like he had a ninety. 243 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:01.759 Seven understand and I know Brandy Brady, and. 244 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:07.240 He was good. He was also like a one to 245 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.480 twenty eight or something. He just had eighteen home runs 246 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.279 and a bunch of doubles. Uh No, Like, we've only 247 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:15.480 had one time in baseball history where somebody was below 248 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.600 league average just offense, and he was, and Chris Davis 249 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:21.320 was at that point still a decent defensive first baseman 250 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:24.360 and was worth one and a half wins. Contra always 251 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.159 got some catching up to do to get to one 252 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:27.600 and a half wins in the sense that I don't 253 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:29.440 think it's possible he makes it is. 254 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:31.759 Are have you looked at ours in terms of his 255 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:33.559 his framing dropping off that way? 256 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.000 No, his framing is actually still extremely strong. He's I 257 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:38.799 think the second I think we have him as the 258 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:43.720 second best framer in the league, behind him Dingler, which 259 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.399 is funny because probably on a rate basis, he's been 260 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:49.120 better than Dingler because he's. 261 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:51.279 He's just turned from to Patrick Bailey. 262 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:56.639 Yes, yeah, essentially, except somehow uglier plate appearances. 263 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:01.080 I mean he's at one point one war Yeah, yeah, 264 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:02.080 it's almost all. 265 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.159 Some of this is probably the injury, but also he 266 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:06.519 was not hitting before the injury. 267 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:09.399 It was not its been a while since the injury. 268 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:12.480 Do your see Plus has him at ninety three, which 269 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:16.639 is both an insane drop off from last year and 270 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:21.080 and frankly the year before, and also dramatically better than 271 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:22.720 his actual production. 272 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.440 They're gonna like his process generally. I think the problem 273 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:26.919 is I. 274 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:32.039 Didn't look at that. Have you looked at his ninetieth. 275 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.120 Ev No, But it's something I actually have. 276 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:36.799 Would you look I have it? Do you know what 277 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:40.080 it is? I don't know. I want to guess. 278 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:42.639 One O seven. 279 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:44.559 It's one of six? 280 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:46.639 Yeah, like again like yeah, I mean, look. 281 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:48.759 Which is slightly above average? 282 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.159 Yeah, And look he's extremely optimized obviously, Like that was 283 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:53.000 his whole thing last year. 284 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:56.120 Launch launch angle, real high twenty five. 285 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.559 Yeah, I mean that's getting up to the that's what 286 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:03.039 he does. It is that's also getting a little too high. 287 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:06.159 Yes, I agree, Oh, I absolutely agree. 288 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:12.480 Yeah. Look, he's not the only issue here, No, but 289 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:16.200 he's you know, the look, I don't think you were 290 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.799 counting on him having a sixty home run season again, 291 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:21.000 but you're probably counting on him being like twenty twenty 292 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:21.919 four cow Rally. 293 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:30.320 Yes, another problem here, Josh Naylor. Yeah, yeah, this was 294 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:34.200 everything we Look, I loved the acquisition last series, a 295 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.279 good fit for the park and blah blah blah. But 296 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:41.320 like they made that deal very quickly, and I think 297 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:45.240 we all thought, boy, that's that's a lot for Josh Naylor. 298 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.679 So I will say on rally, looking in the data, like, 299 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:52.600 there's not He's always chased a lot. He's still chasing 300 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:57.879 a lot. His you know, ninetieth is down a mile 301 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.039 and a half over last year. Max is down five. 302 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.679 Now that doesn't like, does it really matter that he's 303 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.960 clustering between one oh six and one ten, then one 304 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:15.159 seven and one fifteen. It's on a MAX kind of 305 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:17.799 it might be it might be indicative of the way 306 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.559 that's gonna tweak. Yeah, yeah, I think. But the big 307 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:25.440 difference here might be the reason for the lost MACS velocity. 308 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:28.080 His swing speed is down a mile and a half. 309 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:30.759 That's per hour there you are, and. 310 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:34.519 A seven seven percent swing right, And look, he's got 311 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:36.399 a very long swing. He has one of the longest 312 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:40.159 swings in baseball, which is fine when you know you're 313 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.480 half long swing a mile and a half off. 314 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:48.559 Just not to be too sicky, are you using the 315 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:54.519 the MLB definition of long swing? I mean it's like 316 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:57.480 it where where he makes contact. 317 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.600 Yes, but it's still like I mean, yes, but it 318 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:01.279 is still a lot. 319 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.599 But yeah, it is visually. I'm just kind of curious. 320 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:06.079 Was I was just curious? 321 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.799 Yeah, And again like he's had little like his his 322 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.599 swing decisions haven't been quite as good. His own contacts 323 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:15.559 gone down a couple of points. 324 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:17.880 So there's like other there's big stuff and little stuff. 325 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:19.799 The big stuff and little stuff. That's all. I mean, Like, 326 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.079 you don't go from twenty twenty five to twenty twenty 327 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:25.279 six without put those things happening, I assume, But I 328 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:30.799 don't know how much of it is, you know, a 329 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:32.960 one year blip, and how much of it is well, 330 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.119 you know, he is a catcher. He is he's got 331 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.640 to be. He thirty now, I mean it is twenty nine, 332 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:44.160 so the catcher about to turn thirty. You know, like that's. 333 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.160 You know, we like you asked before you played one hundred, yeah, 334 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:51.119 seventy five games, and you've. 335 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:53.559 Asked before a lot you're in the early in the pod, Like, 336 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:55.000 have you ever seen this before? I thought you were 337 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.519 going to go with like catchers and like the first 338 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:58.160 one that comes to mind for me is Jonathan Lucroy 339 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:02.960 when it just went went like really, now, look, the 340 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.279 framing is still pretty good. Like I think the athleticism 341 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:09.799 is for what it is, isn't that different. But like 342 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:13.279 that's the like with catchers. Man, like he did play 343 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:15.240 a lot of games, he did get banged up this year. 344 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:19.839 I would accept some sort of bounce back, but sometimes 345 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:21.480 it just doesn't happen when you're a thirty year ol 346 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:24.359 catcher and they probably need to figure out a way too, 347 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:29.359 you know, d HM Moore going forward and like getting. 348 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:33.440 Having a backup better than the jorcer. Yeah, probably on 349 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:36.279 the priority list, it's not in the system. 350 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:39.920 So no, I think one of the wild look, and 351 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.319 they're not that far out of a playoff spot. They're 352 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.480 they're right around five hundred, they're two games under, So 353 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:47.319 it's all going to be a mixed bag. But like 354 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:49.279 if you if you had told me you're going to 355 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:51.319 get this season from Randy or Rose Arena in this 356 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:58.559 season from Dominic can Zone, I would have said oh yeah, that's. 357 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:02.000 The problem is that all that's literally all guy, I know. 358 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:05.279 It's it's well, you know, like Julio has been fine. 359 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:08.319 Yeah, he just hasn't had the second half Julio yet maybe. 360 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.359 The right but this is a frankly better than first 361 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:14.279 half Kenny, right, So. 362 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:17.240 But j Crawford is at the end of the line. 363 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:19.480 No, I mean, look, they they made a big move 364 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.839 for Brendan Donovan. Yep, we I know I bring this up. 365 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:24.640 And he's been very good when he's healthy. He's not 366 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:25.240 been available. 367 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.279 He's played twenty five games this year out of yeah, 368 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:29.720 you know, the Sugert and whatever they played. 369 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:34.119 So that's that's a big piece missing. But also like 370 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:39.000 Brendan Donovan shouldn't be the big piece. He's a he's 371 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:41.920 a good gap filler, right, And I'm not I'm not 372 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:44.240 trying to be derogatory, like I think he's a really 373 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:47.279 good player, but he is like a really high quality 374 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:51.160 lineup lengthener, not your centerpiece, right. 375 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:54.880 I mean, the the problem is they are so they 376 00:19:54.880 --> 00:20:00.759 are starting to fire this next generation of top position 377 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:03.079 player prospects. Young and Amerson are gonna be the first two. 378 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:08.400 They're gonna have more coming down line, and like Young 379 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:09.359 has been fine. 380 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:15.200 Young is also like the most easily the best position 381 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:20.319 player prospect they've graduated since. I mean, yeah, you would 382 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:22.559 think they're bringing a munch of position players. 383 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.720 I'm like, oh no, yeah, like Emerson is a better 384 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:27.680 prospect than Young. 385 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.960 But yeah, you have two years of runway too. 386 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:35.440 Yeah, and like it's there are I did not predict 387 00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:37.480 the hit tool going like this. I figured if he 388 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:39.240 was struggling a little bit, it would be like hitting 389 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:43.359 an empty two forty not what this is. But you know, 390 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:45.359 this is something they can work itself out. 391 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.839 Right, And this is like if there's any comfort in this, 392 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:50.079 this this is exactly how cold Young's rookie year winning. 393 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:53.480 Yes, yeah, sure, but I think I think if you think, 394 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:59.200 I mean, that's not but also are only if you 395 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:01.559 guys are only getting to you know, one hundred and 396 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:06.079 ten ops plus, Like that's not enough. And yeah, Young 397 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:07.480 is a good I don't think Young this is good 398 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.119 a defender a second basis is d rs. But yeah, 399 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:12.799 a good defender. It wouldn't be enough. 400 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:18.400 It would be enough if cal Rawley, Yeah, if Leo 401 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:22.400 get is one twenty five instead of one ten ops 402 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.240 plus and and if Randy or Reserina and Dominic Canzone 403 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:28.240 are gonna hit like this, it would absolutely be enough. 404 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:30.720 But that's this is the thing is like it's a 405 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.400 little bit like when people do their fantasy teams and 406 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.039 take all the high risk, high reward guys and you 407 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:39.599 get the mixed back and ultimately it's like, no, those 408 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:43.240 the rewards don't actually weigh, you know, outweigh all the 409 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:46.119 risks you took. You end up middle of the field, 410 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:51.400 you know, middle of the pack. Excuse me, And yeah, 411 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:54.759 I mean when you need everything to go right. 412 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:59.920 Right right, And this is this is a really bad 413 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:07.759 bench too. So like if any of these guys get design, yeah, like. 414 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:08.519 The Poto puts together a terrible bench because he won't 415 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:10.559 need them because he's so he's so great at putting 416 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:12.440 a line up together that why would you even need 417 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:15.240 a bench? Why? Which is why you have Victor Rob 418 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:18.599 Blaze can like not hitting again. Like it's been a 419 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.759 while now since Relays had there's like two hundred good 420 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:25.839 plate appearances. They got him a contract extension, Rob Resn 421 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:28.599 like Rob rath Snyder is this is very funny from 422 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:31.039 Mariners Fance because this is Tommy Listella. This is like 423 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:33.960 the Mariners seem to manage to find the guy whose 424 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.039 career just bottoms out every time they're looking for a 425 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:37.559 bench bat. 426 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:39.920 They did this with Ryan Bliss too. It's like the 427 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:41.079 prospect version of it. 428 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:46.039 Yeah. Yeah, they just need you gotta trade Rob rath 429 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:49.880 Snyder back to the Red You just at this point. 430 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:51.720 You just don't handed bat anymore. 431 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.160 I don't like a problem. He's a bench bat. It 432 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:55.880 should be Okay. 433 00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:58.680 It's weird with the ref Snyder thing, right. 434 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:02.160 Because defensive second basement than Curtis Meade. 435 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:08.759 Snyder. Yeah, we're starting a conversation. 436 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:12.279 Yeah, I mean they did this last year with Rowdy Tell's. 437 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:15.440 They did it the year before with who was it 438 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.079 the year before the Maybe they didn't have one year before, 439 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:21.559 but they always seem to sign a veteran to a 440 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:23.119 one year deal. It's just a turner, I guess. 441 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:26.039 I don't know if this is a funny Rowdy tell 442 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:26.400 his story. 443 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.599 Mitch Hannagher again and Mitch Channiger again was one of 444 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:34.519 them the DH before. He was Mitch Garver, the backup catcher. 445 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:37.200 They they always seem a J. 446 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:38.559 Pollock is a good. 447 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:43.160 Yeah. They always seem to sign these these veterans. Tommy 448 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.319 Listella is like the patrons saying to them. 449 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:46.880 Are they going to get Jones next year? 450 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.279 And there's never a good explanation for why they fail 451 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:51.920 other than just them being Tommy Listell. It's really easy 452 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:54.240 in retrospect to go, oh, yeah, you signed Tommy Listella 453 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:56.720 and he was bad because he's Tommy Lastella. But he's 454 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:59.920 only bad because you signed Tommy Listella. You know, the 455 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.480 sliding doors were timing thesis to be an angel or 456 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:05.359 something is probably guess about three years in his career 457 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.720 or something. They kill everyone. It's weird and like you can't. 458 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:14.720 Right, but they have to. They have to play the park, right, 459 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:18.759 I mean, like so I don't know, I don't know. 460 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.559 You say that. I know people say that, like baseball 461 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:25.119 players aren't recognizable, but they're not like you know, you 462 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:28.279 wouldn't take see if you're walking down the street. I 463 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:31.960 was doing video recently, just I wasn't I was working 464 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:33.960 a picture and I just saw this guy come to 465 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:38.720 a play and like that's rowdy tells like without immediately look, 466 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:39.240 I would know. 467 00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:44.119 Look there's guys you have capital all caps, ye face 468 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:48.000 and rowdy tails is one of them. I would also 469 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:55.519 recognize Ronald Bellisario anywhere. Okay, I would recognize that face anywhere. Uh, well, 470 00:24:55.559 --> 00:25:00.160 we are on the Mariners. There was a note that 471 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:02.759 Emerson Hancock is available. 472 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.640 Yes, yeah, I'm not. I assume this is for some 473 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:13.200 sort of I guess people call them challenge trades, but essentially. 474 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:15.759 This is a version of the meaning it's going to be. 475 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:18.480 It's going to be an arm for a bat probably, right, 476 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.000 that's probably the like a young, good cost controlled bat 477 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:24.359 that maybe you know, I don't know what you think 478 00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:27.359 about Hancock at this point, but. 479 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:29.680 He's I think he's a good picture. 480 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:31.160 He's a good picture, right, So you're going to get 481 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.240 like a three? 482 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.240 Yeah? Maybe, yeah, you would start him in a playoff fare. 483 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:39.400 Yeah, I don't think I guess I don't think he's 484 00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:43.039 different that different from I guess he's not that different 485 00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:44.119 Connelly Early. 486 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:46.240 Well, we'll get to we'll get that. 487 00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:53.400 But I'm just saying like, yeah, yeah, but yeah, he's 488 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:56.160 got understand much control. Yeah, he's got four years of control, 489 00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:58.279 so four plus. So they trade him now, so yeah, 490 00:25:58.319 --> 00:25:59.359 I think you could get. 491 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:03.759 I think they need to get someone better than Curtis 492 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:04.920 me sure. 493 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.319 But also I think. 494 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:08.920 We'll get there. 495 00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:11.119 I guess you could do this way. I mean, I 496 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:12.880 guess you could do it literally with the Nats if 497 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.200 you wanted to. But like, there's there's going to be 498 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.960 a small number of teams that are willing to do 499 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:22.400 this kind of swamp because like, if you're the Cubs, 500 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.400 you could actually use Emmerson Hancock, But like. 501 00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:28.079 I don't think I don't think they could get because 502 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:30.559 I think they're in a different position team wise. But like, 503 00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:37.200 is this like Auto Lopez? Sure? I was thinking, like 504 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.319 what's a challenging trade in that they're both in a 505 00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:44.720 breakout year. Yeah, there's more risk on on Hantock just 506 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.680 as a pitcher, So I don't think it's quite even, right. 507 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:52.279 I also don't think the Marlins given the station there 508 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:55.559 in right, I want to put all their risks in 509 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:56.920 a in a picture bass, right. 510 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.359 Especially after what happened with white and smelling this year. Right, 511 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:08.759 So I I I just wonder how this works. Like 512 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:10.720 the White Sox kind of makes sense in a way 513 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.119 because they have like do you want to trade Emerson 514 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.680 Hancock for Miguel Vargus. I don't think about megl Vargus 515 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:21.400 hitting that park either versus Sorry, just a rate field 516 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:26.480 but like, like, like Colson Montgomery has low key not 517 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:33.279 been great this season, and they have other shortstop options, 518 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:38.920 Like could would you trade Emerson Hancock for Colson Montgomery? 519 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:41.000 Like sing it out loud, it sounds really weird, right. 520 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:43.799 I don't think either team would do that. 521 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.119 Right, That's the thing, right, Like you get when you're 522 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.880 doing the Hancock trade, you end up with a scenario 523 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:51.839 where you don't think I'd like a lot of the trades. 524 00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:53.039 I'm going to say out loud, like, I don't think 525 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:55.960 either team would do that. I could see the Marlins 526 00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:03.400 doing it. It's gonna be very highly like, I mean, yeah, 527 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:05.359 it's a different way. 528 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.519 It's a different type of team like situation, Like the 529 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:14.759 Potterys and Diamondbacks could both use Hancock and neither of 530 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.519 them has anybody in that type of mode to trade, right. 531 00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:21.000 I think part of the problem too, is if you're 532 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:27.480 the Mariners, like, yeah, get the best controlled hitter you 533 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.240 can get for Hancock, but you kind of don't want 534 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.079 to add another infielder to that mix either, just another 535 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.480 you're a Donovan like so now you only look at 536 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:37.799 outfielders and. 537 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:43.480 They wouldn't do it. Patrick, But I think you could 538 00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:48.000 talk me a noted skeptic, although I mean like I 539 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:53.319 like them, but whatever her older Predoma mm hmmmmmm. Now 540 00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:58.440 now he's by reference where he's a three win player already. 541 00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:00.119 Yeah, I think p Doma's too. 542 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:05.039 He's a league average bat and you know, and yeah 543 00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:07.680 in T mobile, Yeah that's dropping. 544 00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.880 I mean it's just like he is that just like 545 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:16.000 Fancy Cole at this point, though maybe maybe right well, 546 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:20.519 the thing is like, but that is. 547 00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:23.880 Not I don't know. I don't think Arizona would do it. 548 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:25.839 I think he made too big a name for himself 549 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:27.880 last year, and like, look. 550 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:34.200 They don't really they don't really like the Diamondbacks still 551 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:36.519 have designs on competition and like we'll need I guess 552 00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.480 I could try to play Jordan. Jordan lul are healthy 553 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.279 right now, I assume the answer that question. 554 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.839 Is now almost I. 555 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:44.519 Would say they don't have another short stop. 556 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:46.759 But this is also going to sound weird because it's 557 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:51.160 it's just dealing with a fantasy, okay, But a deal 558 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.319 that would make sense for the Mariners would be like 559 00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.000 if Kobe Mayo was good, He's not. 560 00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:01.240 Good, sure, I reckon if Jordan's was healthy. 561 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:06.519 If Kobe Mayo was good hand, Like this version of 562 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.839 Hancock and that version of Kobe Mayo would be a 563 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:15.079 very interesting challenge trade matchup for both of those orders, right, 564 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:17.319 Like that would be the kind of thing that would 565 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:20.799 make sense. I recognize everyone he's not and it's. 566 00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.720 Not to be clearly not good, but like he. 567 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:30.519 Does have the power to play in T mobile and 568 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.960 that would be you know, and then you could you 569 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:37.000 could flex Brendan Donovan around even more whenever he's healthy. 570 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:38.960 That kind of thing. But like that that's a fact, 571 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:40.559 which I guess is what you're talking about a little 572 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:41.519 bit with Coulson Montgomery. 573 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.400 But like, yeah, I just don't think I like, the 574 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.759 White Sucks are not creative in that particular way like 575 00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:54.799 they would really and actually creative. They're they're going to 576 00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.799 be more risk averse in these kind of trades, right 577 00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:59.920 the team that literally is adding Osier Katie. 578 00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.680 The other thing is that like I don't know, I mean, 579 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:08.000 it would end the the terrible piggyback situation that's been 580 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.880 going on. But the Red Socks were able to take 581 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.720 it early because they have Patrick Sanderbal basically pitching like 582 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.960 as well as Lily was. This is going to be 583 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:20.400 Louis Castillo and he is not pitching as well, Like 584 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:21.759 they're gonna the Marriers are gonna feel it. 585 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.039 Well, that's that's interesting. The thing I read something on 586 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:28.599 this rumor popping up and and it was basically like, 587 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:31.519 if you would have thought the Mariners would trayed someone, 588 00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:33.960 it would be lose Castillo. But obviously there's mark. 589 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.440 Want to get something back. I mean that you want 590 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:36.759 to get. 591 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:39.119 Something back, but I also don't know that. So the 592 00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.599 actual the problem is their reputation as a as a 593 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.000 pitching dev or a little bit cuts against them in 594 00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.480 this way. And then I think breakout, they have a 595 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.039 breakout arm who they're suddenly willing to deal. What does 596 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:53.039 that tell you, ma. 597 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.119 I mean that just that could be something. It could 598 00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.000 be nothing, sure, but it could be decided. 599 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.119 Other side of the deal. You have to ask it, 600 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.319 and that makes it harder, right. I absolutely agree they 601 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.960 might just be trying to be like, let me, let 602 00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.279 us get something real in return for a real piece. 603 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.359 But all the time, if this, if they're willing to 604 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:16.880 deal this guy, what does that telling you? 605 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.759 I mean, they've said before that Gilbert and Kirby have 606 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.160 been available and the sort of scuttle butt was that 607 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.160 they just wanted too much for them. So it's possible 608 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:25.960 that Han Kong is available and they just end up 609 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:29.920 wanting too much. If it were me, like I make 610 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.759 this trade, I'm like, we're calling up Kate Anderson. Let's 611 00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:37.240 go like that what they're going to do? Yeah, calculus here, 612 00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:40.000 we're just calling up Kat Anderson? 613 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:41.079 Who else? Could you. 614 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:49.079 Don't limit yourself? So like the Rays are off, they're capable, 615 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:54.119 they don't have the piece to send back. Is the problem. 616 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:56.559 They're trying to get scooble Man. 617 00:32:58.240 --> 00:32:59.599 I know, but they don't know if they if they 618 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.519 want to make the major if they want to right, 619 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:04.319 if the Mariners want a major league hiter back, which 620 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:10.599 I assume they do, I don't think they want not Carsonians. 621 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.640 The Rays have junior Cameronaro who they are not straight. 622 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:23.720 And then I mean t Mobile can't hurt Chandler Simpson. Yeah, yeah, 623 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:24.640 I don't like you. 624 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:27.559 You mentioned do you think that Nationals could be interested 625 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:28.960 on the pitching front? But I don't really know who 626 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.599 you're going, Like, I think C. J. Abram is going 627 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:31.240 to command more. 628 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.960 Yeah, I think it is too. I think the and 629 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.240 look the Mariners have other like the Mariners could include 630 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:40.240 like Michael Royal right or Dolon and Cell Stean right 631 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:43.119 to send an infielder back. I think Royal is playing 632 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.279 some outfield for some reason. But like that, like, I. 633 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.319 Think they could sure where you place. I don't think 634 00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.920 Seattle is going to want to play C. J. Abrams 635 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:55.480 what they've been willing to put up with. 636 00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.079 So honestly about the Nationals, I'm probably just extended C. 637 00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:59.839 J Abrams at that I would know. 638 00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:03.240 I agree he might end up in center field, which 639 00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:07.400 I think is fine. Yeah, I just I don't know 640 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:08.400 who who else? 641 00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:09.519 You know? 642 00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:15.719 Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Milwaukee certainly has options to send back right. 643 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:24.719 But not quite the major league contributor options the like 644 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:25.679 tested ones. 645 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:29.079 Yeah, I guess that's probably they have. 646 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.440 They have a number of up the middle guys who 647 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.400 are close to major league ready whatever. But you know, 648 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.039 if the Mariners are trying to do a challenge trade 649 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.400 that doesn't sell on the season. 650 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.960 Right and they look they shouldn't because I don't actually 651 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:43.960 believe in the Rangers. 652 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.239 So I will say, I will say to Poto, I'm 653 00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:52.599 sure it's just looking at Cooper Pratt's contract shamed envy. 654 00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:58.119 Yeah, I don't. I will say we should move on 655 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.639 because there's two more teams in this segment alone, But 656 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.119 I I I don't know that they have the piece 657 00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.239 to send back. It would be interesting the Cardinals could 658 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:14.159 really use a controllable arm, like like Hancock. I don't know. 659 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.800 I don't know that there's a great fit throwing back, 660 00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:23.039 but that would be like something that is both moderately 661 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:29.360 for this year but absolutely part of the future for them. 662 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.840 I mean like yeah, I mean Lars Newbar is not enough, right, 663 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.559 like you you run into you run into that issue certainly. 664 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.280 But I think the Cardinals would be interested in Hancock. 665 00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:41.599 And this also might be a thing where you end 666 00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.920 up with a three team trade. I think you're. 667 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:48.119 Gonna end Emerson Emerson Hancock for Jordan Walker. 668 00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.760 Oh, I don't think they're training. 669 00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.199 Yeah, I think Mason Wins more likely. 670 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:55.800 Honestly, why would you why would you try? 671 00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.679 Got you got JP Crawford at home? 672 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:02.280 Yeah, well, I three years, three years of control. 673 00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:06.679 I don't know. I mean, Mason win is hitting two 674 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.039 thirty eight three. 675 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.400 Eight, he is, It's not it's not that good. He 676 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:11.000 has hit better. 677 00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:12.320 I get where you're coming from. 678 00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.000 Patrick, Okay, it's not like Mariners fans haven't watched Brendan 679 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:15.639 Ryan before. 680 00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:20.079 You know, look, I think Jordan Walker. I don't think 681 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:21.079 Saint Louis is doing that. 682 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:22.920 Yeah, probably not, but I. 683 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.760 Don't think Saint Louis is doing that. I think he's 684 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:29.039 kind of too important for their right line up. It's 685 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:29.440 too bad. 686 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:31.400 A lot of this comes down to the information we 687 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:33.840 can't have, which is like, how much do the actual 688 00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.800 the teams believe in these guys? 689 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:37.760 Right? Right? 690 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.880 Yeah, all right, Let's go to the Guardians, who have 691 00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:47.800 lost you said five in a row. Yeah, they are 692 00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:50.519 two and a half back of the White Sox. They 693 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:54.679 are minus eighteen on the season in run differential, three 694 00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:55.960 and seven in their last ten. 695 00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.119 Demoted Daniel Schnemanto the minor league since the last time 696 00:36:59.119 --> 00:36:59.840 we brought up Daniel. 697 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.880 I'm not I'm not ignoring the note as in our 698 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.039 Doctor that says swept by the quote unquote fraudulent raise. Yeah, 699 00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.199 I will note two things. I'm going to play both 700 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.760 sides of this fence. The Guardians are not a reason 701 00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:16.199 that the Rays are no longer fraudulent. Sure, but if 702 00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.000 the Guardians had won anything in this series, I would 703 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.880 have used it to call the Yes, of course I'm 704 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.239 playing both sides, so I come out on top. Yeah, 705 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.079 they they absolutely should. The Guardians aren't good. 706 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.599 So I hear it's not a good team. Here's one 707 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:33.960 for you. I don't know if you have the base 708 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.800 fends page open Chase the latter that's the highest. I 709 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.719 don't has Chased the lotter has the highest ops plus 710 00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:43.840 on the team at one twenty four. Nice little season. Yeah, 711 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.800 who is second? 712 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:48.280 We've had it open before. 713 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.519 I'm looking left? Is it? 714 00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.079 Is it a regular? Yeah? 715 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.719 I mean sorry, he is? He is on on He 716 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:03.280 is on the top as the leader in his position. 717 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:07.360 Is it? 718 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:11.480 Is it? Literally? Brian Rokio? No, no, oh, okay, I 719 00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:12.840 thought that that would be funny. 720 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.800 It would be there's a lot of there's a lot 721 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:18.280 of players on this team. It would be funny funny. 722 00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.800 That's true. It's not Kwan obviously. 723 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.880 I mean even Kyle Winzardo would be funny at this point. 724 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:30.360 It's definitely not. Oh, no, is it? He wouldn't be 725 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.239 the top guy? Is it Patrick Bailey? 726 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.239 Is that Patrick Bailey is not the top guy? 727 00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.679 No, Although he is hitting better than he has a 728 00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:41.719 better ops plus than four regulars. In the Guardians. 729 00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:43.840 Yeah, I knew he hadn't been as bad for the 730 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:46.280 ninety ops plus, Like, that's fine if Patrick. 731 00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:48.800 Hoskins, No, but they had a bunch of I mean, like, 732 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:50.360 it's definitely not Reece Hoskins. 733 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.000 He's one of the ones below, so he's been so bad. 734 00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.559 Bazana started out, Okay, I'm guessing it's not it's still 735 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:04.519 okay on helmart Tina started out, Okay, I. 736 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.840 Don't almost every except one. 737 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:13.760 Yeah, well three, but che your credit. I don't think 738 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:14.800 you knew there's fielding? 739 00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:16.920 What position am I missing? What positions am I? 740 00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:18.440 So you've already got the position? 741 00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:19.599 Yeah? 742 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:20.719 Is it just then? 743 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.760 Yeah? Yeah, say one thirteen O ps plus Craig, Wow, 744 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:25.920 okay better. 745 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:26.239 Than I thought. 746 00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.119 Yeah, No, I was. 747 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.039 Assuming second place was going to be like one O 748 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:36.360 two Okay, okay, all right, Yeah, I don't know what. 749 00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:38.360 I don't think beating the Guardians. 750 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:40.440 I don't know what to do with the Guardians other 751 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:47.480 than they're just gonna. 752 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.840 He's just still like we haven't talked about him in 753 00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.599 a while, Still still just brown along in the two 754 00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:50.199 five nine. 755 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.920 Kate Smith continue like, is Kate Smith the most underrated 756 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.199 reliever in baseball could. 757 00:39:56.039 --> 00:40:02.559 Thing maybe maybe. 758 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.239 Given then maybe all thirteen yeah, still maybe maybe. 759 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.079 I feel like he's one that, like fantasy players all 760 00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:08.360 know they're closer. 761 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.000 Right, Sevin Williams looked like he was in the middle 762 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:14.880 of break up, missing a ton of bats, but up 763 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:15.880 to a three, seven eight. 764 00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:16.800 I just. 765 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:20.800 No, I did not know. Plon was. 766 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.559 Like he flopped. He flipped with steaming like yesterday. 767 00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.119 This is the team that could really use Tyrone Taylor. 768 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:32.440 You could. 769 00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.760 No, they can't. They're not good enough to be worth 770 00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:37.039 acquiring Tyrone Tailor. 771 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.440 I mean, they're exactly good enough to be worth Taylor. 772 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.119 I think they're not. 773 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:48.320 They're not gonna make I mean, I think because possible 774 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.760 they make a move for a Tyrone Taylor level player. 775 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.199 I'm not saying they're going to be they're the Guardians, 776 00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.679 but I think it is possible that they trade for 777 00:40:56.719 --> 00:41:00.000 Tyrone Taylor. Not Louise but possibly Tyrone Taylor. 778 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:01.519 Jake McCarthy would look good at. 779 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:08.719 Like I said, I got at the Al Central whatever. 780 00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:15.199 The Phillies. The Phillies also salvage might like the Mariners 781 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:18.639 salvage game in their series against the Yankees three and six. 782 00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:22.119 Since the break to be fair, you. 783 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.199 Know, I guess they they they lost two or three 784 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:26.800 to the minutes, but they also played the Dodgers. I mean, 785 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.159 they played the Dodgers and Yankees and they you know, 786 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:29.800 lost both. 787 00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:31.679 They had been kind of scuffling a little bit before 788 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:36.519 the break too. Yeah, they like it looked like I 789 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.000 don't know, maybe three weeks ago or when I think 790 00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:42.880 we did a segment on it, like it it seemed theoretical. 791 00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:45.559 It seemed and I say likely, but it seemed very 792 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.360 possible they were going to like catch like by now they. 793 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:51.599 Were they were hot and the Braves were not, and 794 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.599 they were I don't know four and a half at 795 00:41:54.599 --> 00:42:00.559 one point and less than opposite directions, and it looked like, yeah, 796 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:00.880 this is. 797 00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:03.800 The Braves had no pitching. 798 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.119 And and then since then the Braves have gone eight 799 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:09.679 and three, and six of those wins have been by 800 00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.639 one run. Yeah, just you know, itch. 801 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:17.280 Happens, and the Phillies losses have felt they had the 802 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:18.840 Dodgers double play. 803 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.760 I mean they were, they were two games back going 804 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:26.039 into the break. Two they are now five and a half. Yeah, yeah, 805 00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:28.199 they were. They were between like two and three for 806 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:29.960 most of the beginning of July. 807 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.519 Here's what I'm gonna say. I'm not ready to call 808 00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.920 this division. Sure, I think five and a half approaching 809 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:45.039 August is substantial. I'm not super sold on Atlanta. Yeah, 810 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.000 I think they they have another swoon in them. I 811 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:53.880 think the Phillies have another like competence streak. 812 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.000 Yeah, so I will say they play. They have a 813 00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.159 four game series against the Braves. Looks like Labor Day weekend. 814 00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:03.760 That's fun. 815 00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:09.320 Before that, they play the Marlins, the Orioles, the Nats, 816 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:13.719 the Blue Jays, the Cardinals, the Twins, the Marlins, the Cardinals, 817 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.360 the Mariners, the Angels, and the Diamondbacks. 818 00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:18.280 That's which team is. 819 00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:20.000 That's the schedule for the rest of them month. 820 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.599 A lot of men in there, and technically they have 821 00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:28.079 it's time to bring up the remaining schedule strength. They 822 00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.400 have the eighth hardest schedule. The Braves have the fifth 823 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:31.599 hardest schedule remaining. 824 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.159 Yeah, there's, like you said, a lot of mid But well, the. 825 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.639 Other question is there September, what are the post. 826 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.760 Deadline Nationals going to look like? The Nationals can hand 827 00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:42.360 you now. 828 00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.639 I mean, look, they have seven they also like the 829 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.159 last week of the season, they play the Brewers and 830 00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:50.400 the Rays. Who might already be locked into a spot 831 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.400 by then. But that's part of the reason their schedule 832 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.000 is probably as hard as the addition to the seven 833 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:54.760 games with Atlanta. 834 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.559 The Diamondbacks can hand you all every two games exactly. 835 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.639 Well, but but you know what I mean, right, Like 836 00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:02.519 there's there's a game. 837 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:04.199 It depends on when you catch them. 838 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:09.480 The Cardinals and the Nationals are too competent, sure middle 839 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:13.320 of the pack teams that it wouldn't shock anyone if 840 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.719 they they scratch out a win or a series win 841 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.159 against against the Phillies. 842 00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:19.000 If they think about this, Phillies teams like, but. 843 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.360 Those are two teams that could be on the cell 844 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:23.719 and they probably won't do hard cells or whatever, but 845 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.400 enough that by the time the Phillies get to two 846 00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:29.840 series with them or whatever. I think you mentioned the 847 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.679 Cardinals twice in there, Yeah, like the Cardinals twice, like 848 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.039 that they could be quite large favorites. Now you still 849 00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:37.280 have to execute, and. 850 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.840 The Phillies will be buying conversely, right right, But like, like, 851 00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.000 here's the thing about the Phillies. This is not a 852 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.280 good team. Like the more I look at it. 853 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:45.400 Like. 854 00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:50.719 It's it's the pitching is pretty good. 855 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.880 Pitching is pretty good. Like for all the off season, 856 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.360 you know, star a discourse about Brightce Harper. He's basically 857 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.480 having the same season he had last year, which is fine, 858 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.440 but also not you know, not really the third banana season. 859 00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.320 They need the first banana season. He really should be 860 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.960 the first banana. Crey Turner is not having the third 861 00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:11.760 banana season. 862 00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:13.519 So yeah, you can accept. 863 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:16.079 Yeah, sure that's problem. 864 00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:22.199 Like yeah, all those all those Alec Boem, Bryan Spice 865 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.679 and stock guys who you know, you just never roll 866 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:26.639 adye to find out if their ops is going to 867 00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:27.840 be an eighty or one hundred. 868 00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:31.320 They're obviously they're getting an all star season out of 869 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.639 Brandon Marsh. He actually also has not been like down 870 00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:40.159 to Yeah, he has not been that good. 871 00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:44.360 Derek Hill has been a savior for them somehow putting it, 872 00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:48.800 I suppose he plays a competent center field and he's. 873 00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:52.199 Five hundred plugging somehow that does not seem right. Yeah, 874 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:53.119 that's not gonna. 875 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:57.280 Lie, guys. He has in twenty nine games, one and 876 00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:02.159 a half our war. Yeah, like that is a safer Yeah, sure, 877 00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:02.719 fair enough. 878 00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.719 Yeah, I just look, the pitching is very good. 879 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:09.480 They could use. 880 00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:16.719 They could use a actual spot starter starter. I mean 881 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.800 and Emerson, they could Uncock. I don't know, you're trading 882 00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:23.920 back and again we're having the same conversations we have 883 00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:26.440 about the Philly all the time. You know, Stotton Bohm 884 00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:30.039 haven't really worked out, you know, every button basically that 885 00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.199 Sambrowski pushed this offseason, right like, they resigned real Mudo. 886 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.280 He has not been good. They committed to keep playing 887 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.000 Bowen Stott. They have not been good at least Garcia right, like, 888 00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.239 we're gonna make Justin Crawford the center fielder not working 889 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:46.079 out like they're all like kind of in predictable ways. 890 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.480 And they've also been hurt by some of the role 891 00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.320 player guys that I like, I think generally speaking, like 892 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:56.239 Edmundo Sosa is a short side platoon Yeah, you know, 893 00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.920 multi position guy is a great little piece. He's been awful. 894 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:07.320 Yeah, yeah, Like, I don't again, I think this team 895 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.000 should be good enough to make the playoffs with this pitching, 896 00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.000 and obviously they're gonna supplement coming yeah again, like literally 897 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.440 you go out and trade for Luis Robert to play 898 00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:18.800 center field, like. 899 00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.239 Right, they will for I don't know that he will 900 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:23.679 help them enough. 901 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.719 Well, I mean it's just like again, the floor here 902 00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:29.760 is so low, right, Like he like he's a much 903 00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.320 better defensive center fielder than Justin Crawford. And I believe 904 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:34.239 he can beat like two fifty five three h four 905 00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:35.440 three forty the rest of the way. 906 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.440 Yeah, he should be able to. Yeah, he has runs 907 00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:40.239 where he does not he j does not. 908 00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.480 But like I think it's a realistic Like yeah, I 909 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:44.760 think I. 910 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.360 Don't remember who it was. It might have been you 911 00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:50.239 guys talking about Like Yo, you guys talked about Patrick 912 00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:54.239 mentioned like just they needed to hand Balton get Baltimore 913 00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:56.159 out of things in trade for tailor work. But like 914 00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.320 that's the that's the kind of guy that they could 915 00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:03.480 really use. And no one who roots for Philly wants 916 00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:07.599 to hear that, right, But he is reducts. 917 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:11.119 Right, there's some like there's some royals energy with these obps, 918 00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:12.840 so getting more. 919 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.199 And that's the thing is that even if Taylor Ward 920 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.079 isn't going to hit for power, which. 921 00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.159 You just just bat him lead off and let shore 922 00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:23.360 Burn Harper hit behind him when he walks right like 923 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:23.800 you get. 924 00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.280 But that's the thing. But also like he's not he'll 925 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.519 be cheap in terms of the prospects, probably if if 926 00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:35.440 the Orioles would trade him. But you know, he costs money, 927 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:38.039 lose Robert costs money. 928 00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:46.280 So I don't know, and they care less about adding 929 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.079 the money than anything else, Like they don't really have 930 00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:49.360 the prospects of trade. 931 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.480 Care less, but they're up in I I don't have 932 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:53.840 their cots page open, but like they're up there. So 933 00:48:53.960 --> 00:49:00.199 like every petition of money is yeah, Now, should they 934 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.440 use that to their advantage and just pay some money? Yeah, definitely, 935 00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.000 especially if it means that they don't have to hollow 936 00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:14.519 out already, you know, not teeming farm system. I guess 937 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.400 one way to put it on that note, Why don't 938 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.519 we take a break and we'll be back with the 939 00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:50.880 vast majority of the show. Welcome back to episode five 940 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.159 hundred and sixty six of five and five. We're on 941 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:58.480 segment two. We've referenced it a lot already. There was 942 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:05.320 a meeting of the thoughts. Patrick, I don't know. I 943 00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:06.320 just went on the headline. 944 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.360 No, that's fine, like the there are there was no 945 00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:11.760 way any headline that's gonna be good for this, this 946 00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:16.039 combination of names. Yep, yeah, I don't like this straight. 947 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:20.719 Okay, so we've said it, but but just for Connolly 948 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:26.440 Early goes from Boston to Washington for Curtis Mead. Yeah, 949 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.280 we we had some disagreement in our group chat when 950 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:32.760 this happened. 951 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.599 Well, like I don't I do want to put you 952 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.679 in a hole, but I'm just saying I don't like 953 00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:39.559 this trade, and I still like it more than I 954 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:41.400 think ninety nine percent of the people I've talked. 955 00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:41.840 Yeah. 956 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:47.440 Yeah, So just to set the stage, I was at 957 00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:54.400 a concert on Saturday night Joslie Plett. She is touring 958 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:56.880 the West Coast. Now, definitely go check them out. 959 00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.599 I don't have any bands a concert on Saturday night, Like, yes, 960 00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:03.559 that's more rememorativity than I'm remembering like five years. 961 00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:07.039 Yeah, Josie Platt and Crouch Eye there just theydially is 962 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.760 a really good album. It got like it's a local act, 963 00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:11.679 but they just got like MPR's like best Music of 964 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.159 the Week, best New music or whatever. A really good 965 00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.559 live show too. So if you're on the West Coast 966 00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:19.159 or in the western two time zones, check them out. 967 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.840 They're touring I think starting later this week. And the 968 00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:26.840 my phone was buzzing a lot. I tried to take 969 00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.400 it out at a concert, like during like the set 970 00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:34.280 or whatever, but some sort of guitar switch was going on. 971 00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:36.079 So I just looked at it, and if people telling 972 00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:37.480 me thoughts on this trade, I'm. 973 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.679 Like, oh god, right now, well it's it's the week. 974 00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:43.360 Like yeah, it's like or like this is a really 975 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.280 weird one. I'm like, what the hell happened? I assumed 976 00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.840 I had assumed it was a Mets thing because generally 977 00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:50.880 when I get text about then, I opened it up 978 00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:52.679 and like, I just like looked at it. It's like 979 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:56.840 kind only early for Curtis bad and I just responded back, 980 00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:59.119 I met a concert, but what the fuck? And I 981 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.960 from my phone away watch the rest of the show. 982 00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:05.159 I was leaving, I'm like, I'm out of the concert. Still, 983 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:05.760 what the fuck? 984 00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:15.880 So this is a challenge trade, yes, guys, without it's 985 00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:21.639 challenging me much track record, yes, but what there is 986 00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:26.199 generally good better more recently for Mead than for if 987 00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:29.679 you care about it currently hurt, we should, yes, mention. 988 00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:32.800 If you care about such things at this point in time, 989 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:36.840 both were very highly regarded prospects at various points. At 990 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.480 various points, Mead is obviously, I don't think it's that 991 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:42.920 much older than early, but was uh you know, he 992 00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.360 was a he was an i FA out of Australia, 993 00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:46.480 not even like a high school pick. 994 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:47.119 So he's been. 995 00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:50.519 Yeah, and I think Early is around that age. But 996 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.360 Early was like a college draft d A and Mead 997 00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:58.639 was obviously you know, playing in the prosas okay, So yeah, 998 00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.599 Mead was a prospect long before or meet it exhausted 999 00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:07.320 as prospect eligibility, long before he had options. Yes, but 1000 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.000 if you care about such things, they're both highly regarded prospects. 1001 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:12.360 Jared mentioned this on our show. I will say it 1002 00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:14.199 against I agree with it, Like we would not rank 1003 00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:18.039 Meat as highly now I think we have. It was 1004 00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:19.880 like get a weird point in time where we were 1005 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:24.239 really kind of probably over indexing directionality of contact mm hmm, 1006 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:26.960 because he's very good at pulling and lifting the ball, 1007 00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.199 especially this year, and that might be a credit to 1008 00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:32.679 the Nationals. Obvious they've got some of that out of 1009 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.719 Abrams as well. I don't like. 1010 00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:39.760 When when Mead was at his peak, you thought this 1011 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:44.760 would not you specifically, but one would have thought this 1012 00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:46.440 guy can just hit. This was like this is what 1013 00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:51.159 it would look like. Our hitter hitters hit era right 1014 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:53.639 hitters are going to hit and he looked like a 1015 00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:58.360 hitter yep, with enough pop that with the amount of 1016 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:00.679 hitting he did, would would make could play up a 1017 00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:03.599 little bit. That that was the cell on meat at 1018 00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:04.000 the time. 1019 00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.000 And Jarrett made this point on the on the pot 1020 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:11.079 as well that like he never he never actually got 1021 00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:12.760 playing time, right, this is the first time he's actually 1022 00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:16.800 gotten like extended playing time, and just never you never 1023 00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.079 earned it. But like also for a prospect that good, 1024 00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:21.280 you'd think that. 1025 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:31.400 Yeah, just let him, yeah, let him adjust now he 1026 00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:32.519 looked bad. 1027 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:34.719 Not to sugarcoat it, yeah. 1028 00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:42.079 Yeah, but yeah, I don't know. It's it's interesting because 1029 00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.320 Early's rise has been so quick and Needs has been 1030 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:48.679 such a slow burn, Like if it is quick, but 1031 00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:55.039 also he's been such a slow burn over time. I 1032 00:54:55.119 --> 00:55:00.119 just think, I look at this deal and I I 1033 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:06.440 love seeing Curtis Need breakout. Right. Generally he's at his 1034 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.159 more recent vintage, not the most recent, I guess it 1035 00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:13.159 has been. He can stand at a bunch of positions 1036 00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.119 and be bad at most. 1037 00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:16.960 Of them, probably find at first. 1038 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:18.559 But probably find at first. But I'm at the well, 1039 00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:24.519 well I meant the other ones, and he's a short 1040 00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:29.800 side platoon masher now this year he has been certainly 1041 00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:32.559 much more than that. He's hit right. He's just as 1042 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:36.320 well as lefties, I mean, not quite as well, but 1043 00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.440 he's a little bit a little bit less right on right. 1044 00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:46.920 Plenty of value there. I'm less sure that that part 1045 00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:51.239 is not small sample. I'm not trying to say the 1046 00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:56.320 breakout isn't real, but you get these weird same size 1047 00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:56.559 you know. 1048 00:55:56.559 --> 00:56:00.199 I had, Right, he might be significantly better again major 1049 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:05.000 league right is and he handles velocity fine, But you know, 1050 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:08.760 maybe he's just an average hitter against righties, right, yeah, 1051 00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:11.360 like you can play him against. 1052 00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:13.960 It might even be below average and still playing right 1053 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:16.280 because he's so good against like I think, you know 1054 00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:19.159 I had. My dad asked me recently, like, oh, what 1055 00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.800 months you do to be good against lefties now? And 1056 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:25.119 I was like, probably nothing, right, Like, it's probably just 1057 00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:29.119 some some small outcome based stuff. Now right on right 1058 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:30.239 is bigger. 1059 00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:31.880 And more right than left asia. 1060 00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:36.440 Yep, right, it's but we're still talking what one hundred 1061 00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:39.519 and eighty plate appearances around that one hundred eighty two 1062 00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.000 hundred plate appearances for me right on right this year. 1063 00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.239 I just don't know. I'm not trying to say it's 1064 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:48.000 not it might be real. 1065 00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:50.840 I said that I'm a little skeptical, I said about 1066 00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:55.320 the Mets draft, but like I'm going to start using 1067 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:57.880 it as a you know, one of my my go 1068 00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:03.239 to maxims. I guess we're going with U. You better 1069 00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.320 be right. He's one of those trades where you better 1070 00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:06.679 be right. 1071 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:07.760 Yeah. 1072 00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:10.199 Well, and Patrick, you wrote you wrote this t A 1073 00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:12.880 and I think that actually captures a lot of where 1074 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:19.039 you land because you talk about the Gnats can miss 1075 00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:20.800 you know, early Early's hurt. 1076 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:24.719 Yeah, and right, early can miss the season and you 1077 00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:26.239 can go under the knife tomorrow. 1078 00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:29.920 Right, And that was kind of like you basically say that, Patrick, Right, 1079 00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:32.000 like if the Knats missed a year and a half 1080 00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:34.840 of early, like they can still come out ahead. 1081 00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:43.599 Three years left. It's yeah, I don't like this trade 1082 00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:48.079 for Boston because it's like you can't not think about 1083 00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:50.519 those three years, right, Yes, this makes Boston a better 1084 00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:51.280 team today. 1085 00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:53.519 I mean, they get three we should they get this? 1086 00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:55.400 Isn't they get three years of me too? It's like 1087 00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:57.599 they don't get right, I. 1088 00:57:57.559 --> 00:57:59.440 Don't know three years. 1089 00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:02.199 The problem is like, yes, this team is full of 1090 00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:06.119 the type of players need is I basically I wrote 1091 00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.639 that this year they knock Anthony Siegler out of the lineup, 1092 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:13.559 which is not even their biggest problem in next year. Yeah, 1093 00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:16.519 I know, you know, he's a ninety five DRC guy 1094 00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:19.000 I think in general, but like you know, he is not. 1095 00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:21.280 Like there's a few players on that team that are 1096 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.400 not ninety five DRC guys. And then they'll still move, 1097 00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:25.840 They'll get zach Nator or something like. 1098 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:28.639 They'll they'll find other things that's just be up next 1099 00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:29.119 year too. 1100 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:31.960 This is the sort of investment you make in solving 1101 00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:35.000 your biggest problem, right when you're trading Connolly early. 1102 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:35.360 Yeah. 1103 00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:38.199 That's the reason I don't like this trade, but apparently 1104 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:41.039 like it more than everyone else, is that if you 1105 00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:43.440 made Connolly early available, you could do better than this. 1106 00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.480 Yeah yeah, and like well, probably. 1107 00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.480 Still getting infielder with some control right right. 1108 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:54.000 The next year needs probably best fit is to dislodge 1109 00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:58.199 Masatake Yoshida from DH, and like, sure, he's probably an 1110 00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:00.320 upgrade there, but not that much of one. 1111 00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:04.320 Shouldn't You shouldn't be paying Connolly early for for a 1112 00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:06.119 d for maybe better. 1113 00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:08.000 Than your maybe better than your set of DH when 1114 00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:10.840 you already have you seated, which you know, admittedly she 1115 00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:11.559 is not great, and. 1116 00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:14.800 I know you also don't You also shouldn't be having 1117 00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:17.199 your sheet to be your DH right Like there, this 1118 00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.559 is like solving a problem with another problem. But like, yeah, 1119 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:25.079 I don't know. I I think from all the people 1120 00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:28.679 I've talked to, nobody loves this deal for the Red Sox, 1121 00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.840 but nobody dislikes Curtis me This is it about like 1122 00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:36.239 you did a bat. Yeah, it's not like you acquired 1123 00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:38.920 someone people don't like or as if he I mean, 1124 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:39.960 like there are questions. 1125 00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:43.440 There are questions, more than more than usual for a 1126 00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.559 position player being traded for also. 1127 00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.320 The context of the guy. It's it's less even about 1128 00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.199 the guy and his questions than the context of you're now. 1129 00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:54.519 They say the pace. 1130 00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:56.920 They don't want to They don't want to dislodge Durban, 1131 00:59:57.599 --> 00:59:58.360 and they probably. 1132 00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:00.679 Shouldn't because Mead's arm is almost as as his range 1133 01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:04.599 and you know why. Yeah, but playing. 1134 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:06.960 Curtis Meat at the second base is a bad idea. Yeah, 1135 01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:09.559 trading for Curtis Mead is not a bad idea. Playing 1136 01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:11.280 Curtis Meat at second is a bad idea. 1137 01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:13.519 But with the roster, that's where they have to play it, Like, 1138 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:17.719 that's the that's the context in which they made the trade, right. 1139 01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:20.480 Yeah, I just they they solved for like we need 1140 01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:23.000 a right handed bat. Yeah, but they did it in 1141 01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:26.719 the worst way possible for their roster construction, which again, 1142 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:29.920 like we were going on close to two full years 1143 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.000 of looking at this team and saying, there are a 1144 01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:34.920 lot of really good pieces. The pieces that they have 1145 01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:38.400 all stack up on the same positions, and they're not 1146 01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:42.079 solving for second base and they're not solving for for whatever, 1147 01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:44.559 and and it's the same situation. 1148 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.639 But when I was researching Need, the thing that really 1149 01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:51.760 stuck out to me when I'm looking through his numbers 1150 01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:56.039 with two strikes on him, Need is hitting two, sixteen, three, 1151 01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:57.639 twenty four to four to one this year. 1152 01:00:57.880 --> 01:00:59.880 I think that is what wow wow about me. 1153 01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:04.360 Above me the average. And he is not like like 1154 01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:06.679 he's not bad. 1155 01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:08.280 It's a good contact guy. 1156 01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:12.000 He's a goodun he's a good contact He is not 1157 01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:13.920 the kind of guy who was like, oh, once I 1158 01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:15.880 get two strikes, I just play and play, you know, 1159 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.119 Like I just I feel like that number is going 1160 01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:21.559 and he's intentionally getting to two strikes because he's just 1161 01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.679 sitting on everything. Now he's and it's not like he's 1162 01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:26.519 said waiting a time just because he wants to walk. 1163 01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:29.000 He's not a Vogel box situation. He wants that pitch 1164 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:31.119 he can poll, and he's gonna sit there and wait 1165 01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:34.199 for that pitch he can poll. I'm not sure he's 1166 01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:36.840 always gonna get it, especially with you know, he's getting 1167 01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:38.880 better against right handers. He's hitting better, and its right handers, 1168 01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:41.400 especially with breaking pitches that are not going to the 1169 01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:44.960 place where he wants to pull, like those pictures are 1170 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:45.519 going away. 1171 01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:49.159 It's a little of the It's Weird approach, which was 1172 01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:51.159 he literally was like, I'm looking for a pitch in 1173 01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:53.199 this zone and if it's not that, I don't swing 1174 01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:54.559 at it. I don't care. If it's in the zone, 1175 01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:55.840 I don't care. If it's out of the zone. I'm 1176 01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:58.159 looking for one thing, and if I don't get it, 1177 01:01:58.199 --> 01:01:58.880 I'm not swinging. 1178 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.280 And you can be a mistake, picture a mistake hitter 1179 01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:03.880 and succeed. I'm not sure he is going to get 1180 01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:05.679 as many mistakes as he has gotten. 1181 01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:07.519 He also does not have Paul Konerko's power. 1182 01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:11.000 Yeah, right, right, No, he's he's gotta be like it's 1183 01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:14.599 funny because he's he's in many ways like a very 1184 01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:16.400 modern hitter in terms of like you said, he puts 1185 01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.599 the ball in the air and on the pull side, but. 1186 01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:23.079 He's not like a lot of times those guys will 1187 01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:29.599 create a swing plane that does sell out for some 1188 01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:31.320 swing and miss in the zone on those pitches to 1189 01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:34.360 maximize damage. Right, But his own contact rate's like ninety, 1190 01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:39.280 he's not like he's still And I do wonder if 1191 01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:41.159 some of that is then created, like some of this, 1192 01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:45.000 because it's only three hundred plate appearances. It's just that 1193 01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:48.960 at ball luck, like absolutely nineteen nineties Boris McCracken batted 1194 01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.599 ball luck. And again, that doesn't mean he's not a 1195 01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:53.679 good hitter, like a major legue quality hitter. It just 1196 01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:56.440 means he's not this guy on ops plus. 1197 01:02:57.039 --> 01:03:00.159 Right, Yeah, I it's it'll be interesting. Maybe he just 1198 01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:01.920 has a really great piecet way. 1199 01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:06.079 Maybe like it's again, maybe he is a prospect. He 1200 01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:07.920 was doing a lot of these same things as a 1201 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:11.119 prospect when we liked him. Like, it's not him, he's 1202 01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:14.880 only twenty five, Like it's not it's the first extended 1203 01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.000 run he's gotten. The Red Sox could get something here 1204 01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:19.079 and still lose this trade, right, Like that's the other 1205 01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:20.280 part of it. 1206 01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.599 Yeah, yeah, it is. It's he's exactly a ninety on Zcon. 1207 01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:28.159 I mean, like it is phenomenal if you're the Nats, 1208 01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:29.880 like you're making this trade a hundred times out of 1209 01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:30.320 one hundred. 1210 01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:32.719 Well that's that's the other part of this, And I 1211 01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:35.480 don't know that it's fair. Yeah, but the other part 1212 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.880 of this is they traded Boston Smith for this guy 1213 01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:38.800 a few months ago. 1214 01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.239 Yeah, but also just the shape. 1215 01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:45.480 You know, I posted on this, I said congratulations to 1216 01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:48.559 Paul Tivoni on the most audacious one red paper clip. 1217 01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:55.119 Yeah iteration yet people can look up one red p Yeah. 1218 01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:59.639 But like I suspect that might, like I suspect the 1219 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:01.719 already of our listeners just know what that is at 1220 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:04.880 the top of their here gonna guess. But a little 1221 01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:06.159 bit of self selection. 1222 01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:10.119 There, Boston Smith. Nobody knows now, Boston Smith is hitting 1223 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.920 to be yeah, to be fair, but like for Curtis 1224 01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.840 Mead and then traded Curtis meat for Connolly. 1225 01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:20.679 Early and look early, I don't want to say they 1226 01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:21.920 got an ace here, right. 1227 01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:24.559 Like this isn't the Christmas Yeah. 1228 01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:30.719 He's he's got elbow inflammation currently, like particularly. 1229 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:34.000 Behind his elbow. It's like he's probably a. 1230 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:37.280 Three and a halfpy ra guy broadly speaking, and like 1231 01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.840 they don't like they don't have that in there. Ironically, 1232 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:42.480 they traded one of them to the Red Sox previously 1233 01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:46.360 and Jake Bennett, but they don't like have that guy 1234 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:49.239 in their system really right, Like a lot of their 1235 01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:51.519 pitching is hurt. Pitching prospects are hurt. 1236 01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:51.760 You know. 1237 01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:54.360 One of the things you brought up, And again, I 1238 01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.840 don't want to give the impression that you're way in 1239 01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:00.880 on Boston side or whatever is that you know early 1240 01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:06.400 is more load the mid nineties. Yeah, he his fastball 1241 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:11.000 shape is not great. The secondaries are good, but. 1242 01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.239 Like he's a pitched versification guy, and it's again it's working. 1243 01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.239 I think it'll work just fine, But I do think 1244 01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:19.880 there's there and he has elbow inflammation. 1245 01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:23.519 The club that has gotten the season that they've gotten 1246 01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:27.000 so far out of Foster Griffin and and has gotten 1247 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:28.960 the kind of upward trajectory that they've gotten on a 1248 01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:32.400 number of guys seems well positioned to potentially take advantage 1249 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:36.679 of that. Now. Look, Boston also extremely good at, especially 1250 01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:41.599 seemingly left handed. Yeah, pitching development. So it's not exactly 1251 01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:46.079 like a major upgrade in that sense. But you know 1252 01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:48.559 these these are also the same a lot of the 1253 01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:51.719 same people. Yeah, yeah, and literally is the same from 1254 01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:52.679 Boston's development. 1255 01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.480 I'm sure Pelatavoni is very very familiar with Connley early, 1256 01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:58.280 who was in the draft room when they drafted him, 1257 01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:02.320 Like exactly, yeah, all. 1258 01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:04.480 Right, anything, el Patrick, do you have any last word 1259 01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:04.880 on this? 1260 01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:06.239 I want the next train to be better? 1261 01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:08.360 This is this is the. 1262 01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:11.320 Other thing like you you mentioned Emerson hand confirmation when 1263 01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:11.679 there you go. 1264 01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.000 Please know what, I don't want to do another one 1265 01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.320 of these. I don't want an this is what we're 1266 01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:18.679 going to get. I know what's what we're going to get. 1267 01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:19.880 I know we're going to get a. 1268 01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:26.400 Ton of This is weird. It's not necessarily that or whatever, 1269 01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:28.440 but it's weird. This same kind of weird ship we're 1270 01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:29.320 gonna say. 1271 01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:32.199 I think this is also an out and sort of 1272 01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:37.480 an effect of just teams valuing prospects more than even 1273 01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:39.360 like even though. 1274 01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:44.920 Graduated number three face what their prospect he was. 1275 01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:50.480 It's very much like there could be anything in that box. 1276 01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:51.679 It could even be kind of early. 1277 01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:54.400 Right before I give you this gift, I'm going to 1278 01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:57.039 let you look in a small hole like he get 1279 01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:00.760 it first, It wasn't there. 1280 01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:02.679 One of the one of the British game shows had 1281 01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:06.360 like what's in the like you have to like, yeah, yeah, 1282 01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:08.519 you know that's what is Jimmy Carr. 1283 01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:13.199 Jimmy Carr persis, Yeah, it's the what is it? The 1284 01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:15.159 banana in the box? I don't Knowmber what. 1285 01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:18.119 There was there was one with the will they lie 1286 01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:18.840 about what's in it? 1287 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:19.039 Right? 1288 01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:19.840 They say what the game? 1289 01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:24.599 It's very like a famous. 1290 01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:26.079 It's a very like you can find on YouTube. It's 1291 01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:29.440 a very very funny segment. Yeah, tennes really good watching. 1292 01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:30.039 It's really good. 1293 01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:33.679 It's really good. Let's go to our third segment, rumor 1294 01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:38.440 has it Well? We talked about whether you know the 1295 01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:40.480 Red so well. We talked about the Red Sox needing 1296 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:41.079 a short stop. 1297 01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:43.159 They still want to short stop, the need more now 1298 01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:49.480 the Angels might need to consider trading zach Netto, and 1299 01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:52.119 we talked about how the Red Sox should be in 1300 01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:52.800 on zach Netto. 1301 01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:55.400 Turns out all those things are coming to. 1302 01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:57.639 The They might want to arrange your shortstop than zach Netto, 1303 01:07:57.679 --> 01:07:58.760 given her they're playing at second. 1304 01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:01.840 But we got well just play durban off. 1305 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.039 Yeah, yeah, just move everybody over over. 1306 01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:08.320 Yeah, this make I mean, look, this would make sense. 1307 01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:12.400 You know who they Angels might have wanted kind of early, 1308 01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:13.960 probably would have. 1309 01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:18.960 It does seem like it sounds like John Mazzeliak might 1310 01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:19.640 just be the GM. 1311 01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:24.239 Now his is the GM going forward? 1312 01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:26.960 Like oh really he's actually behaving like it? 1313 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:30.000 Well, no, there's likewords, it's like I might just stay. Yeah, 1314 01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:33.560 basically I wonder if he's just like talking like if 1315 01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:36.000 you never deal with art. Yeah, I guess you just 1316 01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:38.000 keep you're doing that. I'm just gonna keep showing up 1317 01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:38.279 to work. 1318 01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:40.319 Yeah, you start getting used to it. You're like, Okay, 1319 01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:42.199 the commute. I'm getting used to the commute. I figured 1320 01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:44.840 out where he talks about how how it. 1321 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:45.439 Was nice out there. 1322 01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:48.479 I heard already retire age, So you're an Orange County 1323 01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.000 like that, you're basically retired. 1324 01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:56.199 Yeah. Look, I I think they probably should look at 1325 01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:58.439 trading that out. It doesn't say anything good about the 1326 01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:01.439 state of the franchise, but either does anything else, sure, 1327 01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:07.239 especially like if if you're trading debts En Sriano. 1328 01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:12.119 Yeah, yeah, that's the might and net Like I like 1329 01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:15.520 Zach Nato a lot, always have that hit tool is 1330 01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:19.319 kind of on a knife sedge? 1331 01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:26.720 Is there anyone else who would go after Ned? 1332 01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:30.600 None of the contenders really have the Yankees, I guess, 1333 01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.880 mm hmm hmm, there's not. Like most of these contenders 1334 01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:38.560 don't need a shortstop or are not moving on from 1335 01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:41.159 their shorts, Like I think, is zach netto better? Thank 1336 01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:44.439 Cooper Pratt almost assuredly, but like we're Pratts on that extenion. 1337 01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:47.119 He's gonna play shortstop for them for a bit, right, yeah, 1338 01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:52.199 I mean like the Braves, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1339 01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:55.199 they like they have the pieces now to go get 1340 01:09:55.279 --> 01:09:56.079 Zack nat out too. 1341 01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:56.840 Mm hmm. 1342 01:09:57.479 --> 01:09:59.239 They would have to, They would have to empty the 1343 01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:00.600 top of their farm sot him to do it, but 1344 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:00.960 they have. 1345 01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:03.359 The users to do it. How much control doesn't that three? 1346 01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:03.800 I think? 1347 01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:05.760 After this season, Yeah, so it's going to be a 1348 01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:06.399 pretty pen. 1349 01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:08.640 Like it's probably gonna be Hartman and South the scene, right, 1350 01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:11.640 Like it's like they're going to want to slam dunk 1351 01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:14.199 top one under one prospects back one that's probably. 1352 01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:16.479 There and I think that's right for three years. 1353 01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:19.920 Very good choice, very good player, even with his like 1354 01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:21.960 flaws such as they are. 1355 01:10:22.119 --> 01:10:24.520 Nothing nothing, He's not going to be elite or anything 1356 01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:25.800 like that. But it's like he's like a. 1357 01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:29.000 First division regular at Chorts. 1358 01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:38.239 Yeah right, exactly. The headline names for this deadline, I mean, 1359 01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:40.960 one with a bullet is Ark's School. 1360 01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:41.399 Sure. 1361 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.600 I don't know if the Tigers are trading terrek'school or 1362 01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:47.640 not they are, the Tigers don't know. 1363 01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:51.359 The Tigers don't know. They're taking calls apparently, which is 1364 01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:52.920 taking you have to. 1365 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.159 But also work in case you need to move fast. 1366 01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.359 They had a nice little soft part of the schedule 1367 01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:59.159 here and they lost to or three to the Royals 1368 01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:02.479 to start it out, like yeah, three seriously to the death. 1369 01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:06.199 Three and a half back with four teams between them 1370 01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:07.760 and the Guardians for the last. 1371 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:13.319 Still I think they are better, I mean take it 1372 01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:13.960 down to the wire. 1373 01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:15.920 Yeah, but you do have to take this down to 1374 01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:16.159 the one. 1375 01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:17.680 Look, they play the Orioles now, who are one of 1376 01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:18.640 the teams ahead of them. 1377 01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:19.039 Yep. 1378 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:22.199 So there's that, and that will probably give you some 1379 01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:26.079 clarity and like, look, if you you can start talk 1380 01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:28.439 getting serious about this Sunday afternoon, if you want to 1381 01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:33.159 after you Loo's again, like you can take the decision 1382 01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:35.560 point down to these next two series. I think I 1383 01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:40.079 think that's right, because look, you're there, given where they are, 1384 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:43.079 and do like their playoff odds are going to bounce 1385 01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:44.279 around a little bit this week. 1386 01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:51.760 Yeah, I think so that we saw a report that 1387 01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:57.279 some interesting teams are going to be in on school. 1388 01:11:57.319 --> 01:12:02.800 We heard about Milwaukee, when we heard about Tampa. I'm 1389 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:09.079 maybe more skeptical on Tampa in the sense that loves 1390 01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:09.800 to say. 1391 01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:12.520 They love but they are like they had to deal 1392 01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:14.239 with harper as or rental before. 1393 01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:20.520 The one is the one that the ownership. I think 1394 01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:24.600 Astro he was traded to, had a deal for that. 1395 01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:28.199 Mike had a deal to Houston and ownership the learners said. 1396 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:32.760 No, there there, they are around I'm not saying around term. 1397 01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:36.000 But they also love to let you know they do. 1398 01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:39.319 You know we it's it's very much like we were 1399 01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:39.920 also in. 1400 01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:42.159 A five minutes after the deadline goes back. 1401 01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:57.159 Okay, okay, right, yeah, they always and look there's credibility because. 1402 01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:58.960 They make a lot of weird traits well and they 1403 01:12:59.000 --> 01:12:59.720 have pieces. 1404 01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:05.159 Yeah, but you know, I was reading if they and 1405 01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:07.479 was like and was like, they make they make or 1406 01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.680 try to make big moves. They got Nelson Cruz, they 1407 01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:12.319 tried to get show I was like, those are not 1408 01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:13.119 the same thing. 1409 01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:18.439 Look, if they made the o'gillan available, like he could 1410 01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:22.199 very easily beat any other package out there. Okay, I 1411 01:13:22.199 --> 01:13:24.640 don't know that they would make the o'gillan available. Yeah, 1412 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:27.920 I think that should necessarily, But. 1413 01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:32.680 That's the thing is that they I don't think they're 1414 01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:37.199 gonna want to take the the future loss right on 1415 01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:42.119 that in terms of of like what the model says about, 1416 01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:42.840 there is. 1417 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:45.640 A lot of value in winning that division and getting 1418 01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:48.640 the buye. Right, there's that, and they're the Yankees are 1419 01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:51.119 red on their heels and that gives them, you know, 1420 01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:53.680 then you go into the playoffs all of a sudden, 1421 01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:58.119 Nick Martinez is your fourth starter instead of your third starter, right, 1422 01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:02.359 and you've got you know, Rasmussen and well you Hope Planahan. Yeah, 1423 01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:03.920 I mean they're never always healthy, but like that's the 1424 01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:06.079 plan right School himself has been you have. 1425 01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:09.079 If you have scooball, McClanahan and Rasmusen. 1426 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.960 That's that's yes, that's force. 1427 01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:15.840 And and I think it's similar for Milwaukee. Milwaukee to 1428 01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:20.520 me has a little more credibility on some of these swings. Right, 1429 01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:23.960 we've seen them. It wasn't a deadline. But we've seen 1430 01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:25.520 them acquire Christian. 1431 01:14:25.199 --> 01:14:27.920 Yelichy we got to mention Cczabathia, which is now like 1432 01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:28.880 seventeen years ago. 1433 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:33.560 Well okay, but they've done it, right, but Christian yelich Yeah, right, 1434 01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:36.920 like they've taken this they it's it wasn't prospects, but 1435 01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:39.960 they they went and got Lorenzo can right like they 1436 01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:41.560 have done these. 1437 01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:43.399 Kinds and again it's very short term money. They have 1438 01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:45.439 a very deep farm system, right. 1439 01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:47.960 That's that's made part of it to me is that 1440 01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:52.560 they really have so much depth to potentially work with. 1441 01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:57.319 They and if you can roll out Terrek Scuoble and 1442 01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:03.039 Jacob Mazerowski in a playoff series, that is I will 1443 01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:05.680 tell you I first read this stuff, like I first 1444 01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:09.079 read Milwaukee's interest in this, and I thought, okay, sure, 1445 01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:11.520 like they do their homework on everybody. 1446 01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.359 Yeah, if you're look if you were at Milwaukee. 1447 01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:19.640 But but I I the thought, the intrusive thought of 1448 01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:22.760 of Trek's school and Jacob Miseraski in a playoff series 1449 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:24.800 is Wow. 1450 01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:29.720 This team has been generically good for ten years, has 1451 01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:31.840 like nothing to show for it. At some point you 1452 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:34.239 gotta like, we're gonna try to fucking win the World 1453 01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:36.640 Series this year, right at some. 1454 01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:39.640 Point, so let me let me ask you. They'll put 1455 01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:45.479 you on the spot. Yeah, but Milwaukee has I have 1456 01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:48.840 the best system baseball something like that. 1457 01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:51.960 I certainly again I have. Okay, I'm just starting to 1458 01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:52.960 do off season with stuff. 1459 01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.039 Yeah, Like sorry, I was just kind of gut feel 1460 01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:55.439 all right. 1461 01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:57.960 Top five, I'm a little I'm a little lower on 1462 01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.119 someone like there are people that like Bishop Letson more 1463 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:01.439 than me. There's a couple of guys in that system 1464 01:16:01.479 --> 01:16:02.439 like people like more than I do. 1465 01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:07.680 Okay, So so let's say top five, they have a 1466 01:16:07.720 --> 01:16:11.079 lot of pieces nearish the major league level, which is 1467 01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:14.640 going to be attractive to Detroit. What what does a 1468 01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:20.039 potential package that would interest Detroit look like? 1469 01:16:23.720 --> 01:16:29.199 See, it's like Monday is not going to be available. 1470 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:32.279 In this No, it's not made. I think it's Logan Henderson. Yeah, 1471 01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:32.520 I guess. 1472 01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:34.199 Yeah, Like I don't think I think Paena is too 1473 01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:40.279 much too Frankly, although I wouldn't be given the amount 1474 01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:42.680 of infielders they have, I could see like maybe you 1475 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:46.079 do the this like the Dodgers outfielder equivalent, Like maybe 1476 01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:49.119 you trade Mike schroeder Z I your hope for something 1477 01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:51.600 that looks like less than present prospect value, just because 1478 01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:57.039 you have so many outfits like you need to. I 1479 01:16:57.039 --> 01:16:59.960 think Andrew Fisher would interest the Tigers. He's already end up. 1480 01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:02.560 The contact rate scares the fuck out of me, but 1481 01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:08.840 you know, he they need a third baseman. He can 1482 01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:12.520 probably play there. He's hit thirty home runs already this season. 1483 01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:17.960 Like the pole power is real. Like if you did 1484 01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:20.640 Fisher in a couple of interesting arms and maybe Logan Henderson, 1485 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:22.640 you trade off the major league roster and you Loger Henson, 1486 01:17:22.760 --> 01:17:25.439 Fisher and somebody else like an interesting Maybe it's Bishop Letson, 1487 01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:27.760 it's one of their prep arms in the last couple 1488 01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.880 of years, because the Tigers have done some interesting stuff 1489 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:32.840 on pitcher pitching dev recently. Or they might want to 1490 01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:35.399 get their hands on one of those sort of metric 1491 01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:36.119 darlings from. 1492 01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:38.000 The Brewers, Raylan Payin. 1493 01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.079 Yeah, yeah, I mean I would. I'm not huge on 1494 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:43.880 Braylen Payne, but I could see. Yeah. I'm just like 1495 01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:45.640 he's fine. I'm just not He's. 1496 01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:49.000 Yeah. I was just you know, I was looking at 1497 01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:50.880 some of our top prospects from the last season. I 1498 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:53.279 know a bunch of changed, but he's got a ninety 1499 01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:56.600 sixty oh and he's been very as a nineteen year old. 1500 01:17:56.640 --> 01:18:00.359 Yeah right, I would Yeah again. I I think part 1501 01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:03.439 of the problem is, like what what does Schooble end 1502 01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:10.000 up going for? Like there has not been a rental 1503 01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:14.920 ace trade in a while, so I don't like, obviously 1504 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:19.960 the Tigers need to beat the what the thirtieth overall 1505 01:18:19.960 --> 01:18:23.760 pick in the draft or thereabouts. They'll do that easily. 1506 01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:27.920 There are a number of guys that you could get 1507 01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:33.119 that would beat that. But this trade specifically, there's the 1508 01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:35.119 added e fact that you know they're going to be 1509 01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:39.840 giving up implied playoff odds yeap when they make this trade. 1510 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:40.039 Too. 1511 01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:42.199 There's all the fact that if they make this trade, 1512 01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:45.680 I think you got to immediate, Like if you decide late, 1513 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:48.880 you've also got to probably ship labor Torres and Casey 1514 01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:50.239 Eyes out immediately as well. 1515 01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:51.199 Yeah. 1516 01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:53.399 I don't think you can just trade Schooble. I think 1517 01:18:53.439 --> 01:18:56.039 that's right, and there'll be interesting both of them obviously. 1518 01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:59.319 Yeah, trade Casey the Phillies thing, yeah. 1519 01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:05.840 God yeah, but just like what does and the thing 1520 01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:07.960 is like you need more so than I think with 1521 01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:11.279 some other trades. We're gonna see the deadline, and partly 1522 01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:14.119 because it's Terrek Schouoble. You though, he's a rental. You're 1523 01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:17.680 gonna have to get somebody back to sell to your fans, right, 1524 01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:19.359 There's got to be a name they know or can 1525 01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:21.640 easily look up and be like, we got that, And 1526 01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:24.880 maybe that's Logan Henderson, right. Maybe it's maybe because Logan 1527 01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:27.800 Henderson is a you. I like Logan Henderson. He's not 1528 01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:32.279 Terig Scouable, but like you a face, yes, likenm but 1529 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:36.079 like you know, he is major league ready. He's in 1530 01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:39.399 the majors literally right now. Probably they keep sending him 1531 01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:41.000 back for I think he started for the recently though, 1532 01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:45.119 So it's do you want that, do you? Or do 1533 01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:46.680 you want a team that comes to the top prospect. 1534 01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:49.279 You can say, you can point to any number of prospect. 1535 01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:53.159 Let's say this guy is number twenty two on the 1536 01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:57.800 pipeline or whatever if they never sighted us and I 1537 01:19:57.800 --> 01:20:01.760 think they're required to site pipeline. But I mean like that, 1538 01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:04.720 that's like the more traditional cell trade here. I'm very 1539 01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:06.600 curious to see what if he gets traded, what he 1540 01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:08.880 actually goes for, just to kind of an idea what 1541 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:10.880 the market is for this kind of I mean, we 1542 01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:14.119 might not see another picture like this hit the deadline 1543 01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:18.000 as a rental for another decade. But yeah, I mean. 1544 01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:23.000 There's also they probably not gonna do it because they 1545 01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:24.840 just called him up and he has a contract. But 1546 01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:26.199 there's Luis Lara right. 1547 01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:29.239 Like I could see I got honestly him flipping Lara 1548 01:20:29.319 --> 01:20:34.199 a prot too and taking advantage of the you know, 1549 01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.119 the built in surplus fague of the contract. Lara has 1550 01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:37.920 been like Pratt hasn't been great. Lara has been fine 1551 01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:41.880 for he's something. Yeah, I mean, look at he does 1552 01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.239 that with that defense, and they're they're not playing him 1553 01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:46.000 every day. They're platuning him a little bit because they 1554 01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:47.640 platuned they saw a platoon everybody there. 1555 01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:50.560 He's hitting three hundred or a four hundred on base. Yeah, 1556 01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:52.920 he's doing very well. It's not a ton of playing games. 1557 01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:56.359 But like, yeah, I also just well just doing a 1558 01:20:56.359 --> 01:21:00.720 little a little pr being the company man. Uh some 1559 01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:04.760 Milwaukee names that that probably won't get traded in a 1560 01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:08.039 deal like this, but you can read about on our 1561 01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:09.119 electronic pages. 1562 01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:09.359 J D. 1563 01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:13.600 Thompson mm HM in our in our ten pack that 1564 01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:16.239 is up on the site today and Blake Burke was 1565 01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:19.199 the hitter of the weekend in the minor league. 1566 01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:22.079 But they just have interesting guys, interesting guys. 1567 01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:23.720 That's that's kind of sitting. 1568 01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:28.399 For power this year now, that is healthy ish Again, 1569 01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:30.479 I don't like it. I don't think Andrew. If you 1570 01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:32.880 think Andrew Fisher's contact rate is bad, like they have type, 1571 01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:35.119 like the birds have types obviously themselves. 1572 01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:40.399 Yeah, Mark, I think Marco, I don't know how to 1573 01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:40.640 say it. 1574 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:42.079 I like him a lot. 1575 01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:43.920 He's interesting. I don't think the Tigers are going for 1576 01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:44.439 another catch. 1577 01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:47.000 He's also dhing more than he's catching right now, something 1578 01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:51.199 they definitely is a way for saying, yeah, yeah. 1579 01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:56.119 All right. Uh. Mason Miller also one of the headline 1580 01:21:56.199 --> 01:22:00.520 names yeah. Also on our electronic pages today, Dan Epstein 1581 01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:04.119 wrote about Mason Miller and his pursuit of potentially the 1582 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:09.520 lowest fifth season. He's chasing Craig kimberrel on there. You 1583 01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:15.439 know the Padres in my head should absolutely trade Mason Miller. 1584 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:18.920 Seems to change every day games out of a play playoffs, 1585 01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:21.319 The reporting every day seems to change on whether they 1586 01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:23.960 are interested in trading Mason Miller or not, which I 1587 01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:26.520 mean is fair if you're just calling a paydir prowler 1588 01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:28.520 every day, you're probably getting a different answer. 1589 01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:34.279 Yeah, Yeah, it's It's funny because the the the Padres 1590 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:37.319 play the Rockies and Giants the week before the deadline 1591 01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:41.439 and then play for either playoff teams or playoff contender 1592 01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:44.960 teams directly after the deadline, so they could be in 1593 01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:51.880 a playoff spot and then and then just not Yeah, 1594 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:52.479 whatever it is. 1595 01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:56.359 Yeah, I don't really have much more to you know, 1596 01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:58.319 we talked about Miller last time. I will say I 1597 01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:00.399 had to hear from from friend of the pod. Cassen 1598 01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:02.520 noted White Sox fan that Mason Miller would be a 1599 01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:05.159 multi year play for the White Sox, which is which 1600 01:23:05.199 --> 01:23:07.960 is fine. I just think that the cost is going 1601 01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:11.279 to be a lot for a release. 1602 01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:12.800 I mean, it's a multi year play for the White 1603 01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:14.399 Sox that he has years of control, but like the 1604 01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:16.039 White Sox might just not be good next year. 1605 01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:18.079 That's kind of right. 1606 01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:21.119 And it's always gonna be hard trading Miller because the 1607 01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:23.399 pott and this, it doesn't it's some cost fallacy, but 1608 01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.119 the Potters paid so much familiar that when the return 1609 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:29.600 for Miller dons that end up comparing, it's gonna look bad. 1610 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:31.720 And it's gonna be it's not even gonna be not compared. 1611 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:34.720 It's not gonna within the contract off. He has a 1612 01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:38.680 year less control, right right, it should be, it's going 1613 01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:38.880 to be. 1614 01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:41.119 It will bring attention to the fact that the Potters 1615 01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:42.399 did not make you said that year. 1616 01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:46.600 Sure, right, Yeah, I mean it's they they did this 1617 01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:47.520 with Lon Soto. 1618 01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:50.239 Yeah, the White Sox should trade for Mason Miller and 1619 01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:52.720 stretch out Grant Taylor, but they would probably just put 1620 01:23:52.720 --> 01:23:53.560 it in the bullpen too. 1621 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:55.000 Maybe they could start both of them. 1622 01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:56.520 Jeff Y Sure, I know. 1623 01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:04.000 We talked to about Hancock being available. Foster Griffin is 1624 01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:11.399 drawing widespread attention in Washington. Sure, yeah, yeah, I imagine 1625 01:24:11.399 --> 01:24:15.640 they'll be willing to trade. Why they're not out of it, Yeah, 1626 01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:19.800 I don't think. I don't think they're gonna have tricked themselves. Yeah, 1627 01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:22.439 it is the way I will put this, And I 1628 01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:25.560 don't think it's a white flag situation. 1629 01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:27.920 They should not trade him to the Phillies because in 1630 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:29.680 that stadium it might not go well for him. 1631 01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:35.000 Yeah. Well, if the Phillies should not have that much interesting, yeah, he. 1632 01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:37.239 Should, like he could be low key a raised guy. 1633 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:41.720 I can absolutely the raise like I mean talking to 1634 01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:44.720 themselves into Foster Griffin as their Game three playoffs starter. 1635 01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:50.439 Arizona is interested in an extension with Gabrielle Moreno. 1636 01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:55.600 Sure, Okay, I don't like. Is Gabrielle Moreno good the 1637 01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:57.920 most contentious threat in the history of forums, et cetera, 1638 01:24:57.960 --> 01:24:58.359 et cetera. 1639 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:04.760 Yeah he is this year. Yeah, he's he's got seventy 1640 01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:11.319 nine games this year, which he had ninety seven the 1641 01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:14.000 year before. So he's playing a lot. He's having a 1642 01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:15.319 phenomenal year. Yeah. 1643 01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:18.319 And look he's he's legitimately improved his defense a lot too. 1644 01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:21.000 Yeah. I guess I would say if I were Arizona, 1645 01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:22.640 I really wish I would have signed him to an 1646 01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:25.840 extension last year, last two years. Yeah. Yeah, not not 1647 01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:29.199 off the because and it's and it's not really doubting 1648 01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:33.239 his talent. I worry about the you know, just availability. 1649 01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:36.399 Yeah, Like, he only has two seasons left now too 1650 01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:38.399 of control past this one. 1651 01:25:38.439 --> 01:25:41.000 So it does. And he's twenty six and a catcher, 1652 01:25:41.079 --> 01:25:45.680 so the question is now he's athletic. Yep, they thought 1653 01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:46.920 to play somewhere else. 1654 01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:48.520 Yeah, the Jays were trying to do that when it 1655 01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:52.640 was a prospect there because of how the question. 1656 01:25:52.479 --> 01:25:55.800 To me is is how much? How many years are 1657 01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:56.319 you buying? 1658 01:25:57.000 --> 01:25:57.159 Yeah? 1659 01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:00.159 I mean, look, if you're if you might. 1660 01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:04.239 Just be happy to have Gabriel Marino twenty eight season 1661 01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:05.560 and yeah, and I. 1662 01:26:05.479 --> 01:26:07.800 Think if you give him like good luck, probably I 1663 01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:10.239 think you could give him like five, it's probably fine, 1664 01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:14.079 mm hmm, like that Gus's thirty one and he's five, 1665 01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:17.680 but that's a five turtle basically. But if you have 1666 01:26:17.720 --> 01:26:20.680 him under control for this, yeah, and I think, like, look, 1667 01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:23.079 because he's like, there's just he will be a very 1668 01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:27.319 young catcher when he hits free agency, but like not 1669 01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:29.039 very young, but he'll be young relative to like what 1670 01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:30.800 you get for pre catchers. 1671 01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:32.359 And nowhere into because he's barely on the field. 1672 01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:37.439 Well, it's getting hurt. There's just a ceiling for these 1673 01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:41.399 catcher contracts. Like if he plays it out and he's 1674 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:43.560 really good the next two years, which are both big ifts, 1675 01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:47.960 like maybe he'll get maybe he'll get the JT real 1676 01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:48.520 mode O deeal. 1677 01:26:49.119 --> 01:26:52.439 But if you're if I'm if I'm one of these teams, 1678 01:26:52.439 --> 01:26:54.720 that's a risk I'm willing to take. If he plays 1679 01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:56.920 it out and it's really good the next two years, 1680 01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:58.880 then I'm I'm found. 1681 01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:00.960 It fine, but is that of Yeah? But is that 1682 01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:02.880 a risk he wants to take? I guess it's there 1683 01:27:03.359 --> 01:27:05.079 if he can get five and I don't know, he 1684 01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:07.960 gets five and seventy right now from their five and sixty, 1685 01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:09.600 do you just take it? 1686 01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:12.279 Is it worth it for there's maybe five sixty that's 1687 01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:14.720 that's pretty reasonable. Yeah, I don't know, but that. 1688 01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:16.880 Seems light for Yeah, I don't like. But he else 1689 01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:18.560 have done this for this one? Yeah? 1690 01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:21.039 No, ye, but but he is above average. He hasn't 1691 01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:21.760 done this, but he's. 1692 01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:25.039 Been he's been above average. Yeah, so I And a 1693 01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:27.159 lot of this to me looks like, without digging into 1694 01:27:27.159 --> 01:27:30.319 it too close, looks like, you know, bad at ball stuff. 1695 01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:36.680 But sure, sure, let's go to our first segment. We're 1696 01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:38.239 gonna go around the horn. We'll try and be quick 1697 01:27:38.239 --> 01:27:43.520 about it. Lance mccullor's acquired uh and d FA yep 1698 01:27:44.439 --> 01:27:45.079 as as. 1699 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:47.560 We talked about, they paid four million dollars for Colton. 1700 01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:52.600 Gordon Tanner, Colton Gordon whoever he is, yeah, uh, Colton 1701 01:27:52.640 --> 01:28:00.479 Bryce Gordon. Ah, yes, he was the price here so 1702 01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:00.920 to speak. 1703 01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:02.960 You didn't even you know, he only threw four two 1704 01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:04.119 thirds innings with the Rowers. 1705 01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:07.800 Yeah, yeah, I think I watched some of them. He 1706 01:28:07.880 --> 01:28:11.319 pitched in the series and there. 1707 01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:16.119 You go, Jose Yourkiti acquired by the White Sox. 1708 01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:20.199 Sure was yeah, I want. 1709 01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:20.760 To I want to go back. 1710 01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:21.760 I can just go to the next one. 1711 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:23.960 Fine, I didn't say, well, no. The only thing I 1712 01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:27.359 will say on this is I said all leading up 1713 01:28:27.359 --> 01:28:29.079 to this, this is gonna be a weird deadline. We're 1714 01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:32.640 gonna see some weird trades like like the the Early 1715 01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:38.159 and Mead One, and we're gonna see teams say here's 1716 01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:40.680 some trash, and maybe that trash gonna be slightly less 1717 01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:46.520 trash for us. That's what this is. Yeah, yeah, right, 1718 01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:52.279 I agree. Shane Langleiers has torn his meniscus, possibly out 1719 01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:54.960 for the season. I think it depends on whether he 1720 01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:58.840 gets surgery for it, I guess. And and what I 1721 01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:01.159 some of some of these been this uh tears aren't 1722 01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:02.960 necessarily that long term a rehab. 1723 01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:04.920 I mean, if you're Francisco Alvarez, you just come back 1724 01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:07.039 from these things in like two weeks, but exactly. 1725 01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:10.119 But but also if you're saying langladers during this season 1726 01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:10.399 for the. 1727 01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:12.279 Ages, yeah, you're not gonna and if you're the ages. 1728 01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:13.079 Why would you push? 1729 01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:14.640 Do you really want to come back for like one 1730 01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:17.119 hundred and five degree Labor Day weekend game? 1731 01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:23.720 Yeah, it's just that grament. He is also Patrick. I'm 1732 01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:27.960 gonna go to you on this one. Dallas. 1733 01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:31.359 Yeah, he's not pitched this year. 1734 01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:34.119 If you told me he hadn't pitched his twenty twenty two, 1735 01:29:34.159 --> 01:29:35.079 I believe you. Probably. 1736 01:29:37.119 --> 01:29:46.760 I just like who called whom? Yeah, yeah, yeah, get 1737 01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:47.079 f him. 1738 01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:50.159 He's thirty eight, like he hasn't been good in a decade, and. 1739 01:29:50.079 --> 01:29:51.279 He's just good kid. 1740 01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:53.039 They're probably about to go back to school. You want 1741 01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:55.079 to get to the house a little bit. Fine, camp's over. 1742 01:29:55.560 --> 01:29:56.960 You got to pick up a projects, right. 1743 01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:58.640 He's doing the Clemens thing where it's like, you know, 1744 01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:01.279 I just gotta keep myself, you know, keep myself ready 1745 01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:03.319 and you don't need me for the You don't need 1746 01:30:03.319 --> 01:30:06.560 me for April, you need me for October, which I 1747 01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:11.760 don't think that, but that was the mentality, you know. Yeah, yeah, 1748 01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:12.479 kind of believe in. 1749 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:16.600 Yourself, Josh, Like you know, it hits some of those 1750 01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:18.720 buffets in Vegas before they all close down. 1751 01:30:20.479 --> 01:30:23.119 Josh Young lands on the I l it was bound 1752 01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:26.600 to happen yeah, it happened. It's honestly, it's a big 1753 01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:27.760 problem for Texas. 1754 01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:28.119 It is. 1755 01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:30.239 Josh Smith is now healthy. 1756 01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:31.800 Yeah he. 1757 01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:35.079 Is back for Josh. 1758 01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:40.800 Yeah, Okay, Cody Bellinger to the I l be uh. 1759 01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:43.079 Spencer Jones is back, but it's gonna be a lot 1760 01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:43.319 of trank. 1761 01:30:43.359 --> 01:30:47.720 Grisham honestly, and Trent Grisham has recovered from a really 1762 01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:48.279 rough start. 1763 01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:51.520 Yeah, I mean he's still he is essentially Transgressiam. 1764 01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:56.119 Sure, but I'm just I yeah, fine, one Soto strains 1765 01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:59.399 his calf. And if the Mets season wasn't dead already 1766 01:30:59.439 --> 01:31:03.800 and it was, don't worry, boy, it's extra dead now. 1767 01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:10.920 No comment from Jeffrey Well, I mean, what's to say 1768 01:31:11.079 --> 01:31:18.840 it's not good? Uha is back, Yeah, good, good for Atlanta. 1769 01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:21.279 For Atlanta, we'll see if you can stay on the 1770 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:23.399 field for the rest of the season, which would be 1771 01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:24.119 helpful for them. 1772 01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:28.960 Yeah, and we we have some slow newsweek we do. 1773 01:31:29.279 --> 01:31:31.800 It wasn't quite enough for a whole you did. 1774 01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:34.239 I didn't even so you didn't even put the thing 1775 01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:36.079 that I said needed to be in here, which was 1776 01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:41.079 speaking of the Mets. Zach Thornton has changed the spelling 1777 01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:43.600 of his name from z. 1778 01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:46.479 A C H to z A C Yeah, he said, 1779 01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:49.560 no one ever asked. Like well, he like. 1780 01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:51.680 Said, no one ever asked. And then he also said, 1781 01:31:52.199 --> 01:31:54.279 I don't really know why the H needs to be there, 1782 01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:59.079 and like because it's part of Zachary. 1783 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:06.279 I mean, like, I guess it doesn't doesn't. 1784 01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:04.960 Like you could you could tear out a lot of 1785 01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:08.199 owels by that same logic. Yeah, they're just in between 1786 01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:08.840 the concepts. 1787 01:32:09.279 --> 01:32:13.560 Yeah. Well, and every app would tell you, yeah, we understand, 1788 01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:14.159 we're going. 1789 01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:16.479 We're going Welsh mode. 1790 01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:19.720 The app of Zach would just be z C K. 1791 01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:24.079 I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, So he is now one 1792 01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:28.159 of you know, he and Zach Allen are now brothers 1793 01:32:28.159 --> 01:32:32.520 in Zach. He and Zach Britain are brothers in changing 1794 01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:39.920 the spelling of the right. Zach Britton went to c K, 1795 01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:45.199 this is about efficiency for Zach Thornton. Yes, I gotta 1796 01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:46.479 tell you, I just z A C. 1797 01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:49.239 It's it's it's like it's very zoomor it's fine. You 1798 01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:50.800 don't have to understand it. 1799 01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:52.079 Uh. 1800 01:32:52.359 --> 01:33:00.680 The Richmond Flying Squirrels had had fireworks and and fire yeah, 1801 01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:04.800 like on the life should have I believe friend of 1802 01:33:04.840 --> 01:33:11.520 the podcast, Zach Kreser speaking of Zach's was it was 1803 01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:14.359 in present? Was present for this game? I should say, 1804 01:33:14.479 --> 01:33:14.920 so I am. 1805 01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:19.399 I am both with the sheer number of minor league 1806 01:33:19.399 --> 01:33:25.039 fireworks nights night, every Friday home sometimes Thursday and Saturday 1807 01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:27.800 too for some of the Yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't 1808 01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:33.279 happened more often, but also I feel like it shouldn't 1809 01:33:33.319 --> 01:33:35.079 happen because you should have people that know what they're 1810 01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:36.359 doing with fireworks. 1811 01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:40.720 I would. I would also tell you normally they do. 1812 01:33:41.039 --> 01:33:46.680 Having having spent a summer at a very generic, arguably 1813 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:53.399 low end like minor League. I was at Potomac, which 1814 01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:59.319 no longer exists anymore, and like every Friday home game, 1815 01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:02.600 they would do fireworks, and honestly, they were like nice, 1816 01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:06.479 it was a nice little fireworks show. And and they 1817 01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:08.039 seem to know what they're doing. So I don't know. 1818 01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:11.640 I don't I don't know what happened, but I encourage 1819 01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:19.439 people to go seek out the video. And lastly, this 1820 01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:25.439 I'm gonna say for four words that I don't understand. Yeah, 1821 01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:28.840 this means nothing to me. Everyone. Yeah, but I'm going 1822 01:34:28.920 --> 01:34:33.520 to read the teleprompter. So doctor Robbie bobble headlines. 1823 01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:36.439 So the the Pittsburgh Pirates did a given. 1824 01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:40.880 I have not watched O now now I am gave away. 1825 01:34:40.720 --> 01:34:44.039 A doctor Robbie bobblehead on Saturday, I think. And the 1826 01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:47.520 line for it before gates open stretched across the bridge. 1827 01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:48.439 Wow. 1828 01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:53.000 Yeah, people like people. 1829 01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:54.760 Like Wiley, absolutely likable guy. 1830 01:34:55.479 --> 01:34:59.399 Yeah, and that takes us to our game, and it 1831 01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:02.880 takes us roight Am continues our bibblehead theme. Uh so 1832 01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:06.439 this game is a reader submitted listen always say reader submitted. 1833 01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:09.279 I don't know why I read this site too. 1834 01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:12.640 Yeah, you know it's a listener submitted game by Joel Fowler. 1835 01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:15.359 Thank you, Joel. What is where you're going to do 1836 01:35:15.439 --> 01:35:19.439 some prices? Right? Is about some bubbleheaded prices? 1837 01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:20.000 eBay? 1838 01:35:20.039 --> 01:35:25.520 I assume, I assume. Let's see the whole There are 1839 01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:28.960 no no these are on These are all on store 1840 01:35:29.039 --> 01:35:33.520 dot bobblehead haul dot com. Sure which is if I 1841 01:35:33.680 --> 01:35:35.880 click on one of these? Is this the Hall of Fame? 1842 01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:39.279 It is the Bubblehead Hall of Fame? Okay, you can 1843 01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:41.960 buy This is not the Hall of Fame, bubble This 1844 01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:45.159 is the Bobblehead Hall of Fame. Where is the Bobblehead 1845 01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:48.600 Hall of Fame located? You might wonder. I will to 1846 01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:53.720 wonder that as well. It is founded in twenty fourteen 1847 01:35:53.720 --> 01:35:54.680 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 1848 01:35:55.039 --> 01:35:56.840 Makes sense, it's producing some guys. 1849 01:35:58.159 --> 01:35:59.920 No, it's a store. This is one of those new 1850 01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:01.079 it's just a store. 1851 01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:05.479 I'm just saying every store and exit through the gift shop. 1852 01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:10.399 You could convince me the Bobblehead Hall of Fame was 1853 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:13.239 like some guys finished basement. Yeah. 1854 01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:13.760 Yeah. 1855 01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:17.720 Stores become the source for bibblehead collectors. We have for 1856 01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:20.159 bubble head products produced by the National Bobblehead Hall of 1857 01:36:20.159 --> 01:36:25.079 Fame and musing Foco fun Co. But Royal Bobbles they don't. 1858 01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:28.920 Sell their It's funk Go Bobblehead they too. 1859 01:36:29.399 --> 01:36:32.880 I'm sure why not. I mean it's it's like it 1860 01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:33.760 distorts the. 1861 01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:35.439 I don't understand the whole photo. 1862 01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:38.880 All these limited edition runs, two of like fifty of 1863 01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:41.199 some guy that called up here. 1864 01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:43.840 This is gonna be wrong, this is gonna be rough. 1865 01:36:44.319 --> 01:36:46.520 Okay, So let's go ahead, get started. Of course, the 1866 01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:49.439 word in the score are you playing? No? I I 1867 01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:52.640 opened it to make sure everything. No, I didn't know 1868 01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:54.800 if he if he he did, he did hide it, 1869 01:36:54.840 --> 01:37:00.199 but I had opened it to so sorry. All right, 1870 01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:03.600 So we're gonna start with a Kyle Wright Atlanta Braves 1871 01:37:03.640 --> 01:37:08.640 twenty game winner twenty game winner club MLB Baseball bobblehead. 1872 01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:11.039 How much do you think it costs? 1873 01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:14.439 I should I? This is not I need like a 1874 01:37:14.479 --> 01:37:15.600 baseline like I have. 1875 01:37:15.680 --> 01:37:17.960 Well, I'm going to get right now on the Kyle right. 1876 01:37:18.479 --> 01:37:23.399 I will tell that as a baseline, the average of 1877 01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:28.479 most of these, not all of them, the average, the 1878 01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:35.600 average for your standard twelve inch bobbleheads are about eighty bucks. 1879 01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:36.760 That's what I would have guessed. 1880 01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:41.119 So I'm going to tell you my price point was 1881 01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:42.439 way lower. 1882 01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:47.920 I will say sixty five, because sixty five, Craig. 1883 01:37:49.239 --> 01:37:54.279 Kyle, you don't know how badly I want to say, 1884 01:37:54.359 --> 01:37:59.720 like fifteen bucks, like and not imagine someone partying even 1885 01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:06.279 for a store. I'm I'm gonna say fifty. I'm gonna 1886 01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:09.359 be wrong, and I'm just I cannot. 1887 01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:14.159 Okay uh A show Hey Otani An Aaron Judge Los 1888 01:38:14.199 --> 01:38:18.279 Angeles Dodgers New York Yankees Home World Series eighteen inch 1889 01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:22.239 Dual Battle MLB Baseball bobblehead that's too. 1890 01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:25.640 Big is a very eighteen inch, very big bottle, and 1891 01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:27.319 I will open it up and describe it to you 1892 01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:27.760 a little bit. 1893 01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:30.119 The two of them are facing each other. They are 1894 01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:35.600 on a base that is an entire stadium. It says 1895 01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:38.680 Base of the Titans or Bash of the Titans. 1896 01:38:38.680 --> 01:38:41.960 It's not are like five to seven inches? 1897 01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:49.640 Yes, the average price for the twelve inch didn't you? Yes? 1898 01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:54.479 The twelve inch? Well, I'm guessing twelve. I guess whatever 1899 01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:55.000 is that? 1900 01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:58.720 Craig is like furiously doing I have a right now. 1901 01:38:58.720 --> 01:38:59.840 I'm not good at enough. 1902 01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:02.840 I would say one hundred and fifty dollars. 1903 01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:04.399 Okay, one hundred and fifty dollars. 1904 01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:06.600 I'm gonna say two hundred and fifty. 1905 01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:11.119 Dollars, two hundred and fifty dollars. 1906 01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:15.680 I have also, Also, I have no fucking idea. 1907 01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:19.359 Here we go. This is one I could have gone. 1908 01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:23.159 A Mariner moose Seattle Mariners twenty twenty three MLB All 1909 01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:25.720 Star Big Ticket eighteen inch. 1910 01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:28.960 Bobblehead eighteen inch moose bobble. 1911 01:39:28.760 --> 01:39:33.600 Yeah, my boy, looking at this the moose is I mean, 1912 01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:36.279 it's from the All Star Game. Also, this moose is 1913 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:39.840 highly bowl Winkle coded. It looks more like Bowinkle than 1914 01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:43.000 the Mariner moose usually looks like. For the kids at home. 1915 01:39:43.039 --> 01:39:47.199 Bowlinkle was a cartoon fifty years before you were born. 1916 01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:50.560 A smile on. 1917 01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:51.920 This is one hundred dollars. 1918 01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:53.000 One hundred dollars. 1919 01:39:53.039 --> 01:39:55.039 I feel like the mascots are usually less. 1920 01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:01.760 This is killing me. This, this is killing me. 1921 01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:06.479 Craig. You don't have to spend as much time on 1922 01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:09.560 it as you are. You're doing it to yourself. 1923 01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:13.760 Yeah, I know. I'm gonna say one hundred and twenty five. 1924 01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:17.199 One hundred and twenty five. Okay, all right, next one. 1925 01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:19.520 I'm so lost to you guys. 1926 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:24.359 And Austin Jackson Cleveland Indians catch bobblehead. I don't know 1927 01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:27.279 what year this is from. I don't remember when Austin 1928 01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:29.960 Jackson played for the Cleveland for the ball club. I 1929 01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:33.039 do not remember. Oh okay, I have to remember twenty 1930 01:40:33.039 --> 01:40:36.039 catch now because it happened. I believe it was against 1931 01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:38.880 the Red Sox. I do remember this catch. He fell 1932 01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:44.600 over the wall into the U into the dugout for this. 1933 01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:46.359 It was on August Firs. 1934 01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:48.840 Davis ones like these. I think. 1935 01:40:50.279 --> 01:40:54.319 It comes with a wall attached. How what size it is? 1936 01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:55.279 A normal sized one? 1937 01:40:55.319 --> 01:40:59.399 Okay, fifty five dollars, fifty five dollars. 1938 01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:02.880 I'm just gonna go with the average. 1939 01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:05.800 Weston Jackson. 1940 01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:08.640 I have no idea. You know you're right. You're right. 1941 01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:09.560 There's a bad call. 1942 01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:13.880 I guess you can't be that far off. Theoretically it 1943 01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:14.359 could be more. 1944 01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:20.319 Yeah, all right, Next one, the missus met New York 1945 01:41:20.399 --> 01:41:24.680 Mets birthday and will be baseball bobblehead. She is, uh, 1946 01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:26.520 it's it's a. 1947 01:41:26.359 --> 01:41:29.359 Fairly she's coming out of a cake like Marilyn Monroe. 1948 01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:33.119 No, she's sitting on a couch throne with golden balloons 1949 01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:36.920 around her and a sparkly bow and a crown a 1950 01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:37.640 tr I. 1951 01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:41.239 Guess said it was eighteen inches. 1952 01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:42.319 She does not look right. 1953 01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:46.079 Wow, you would think you can take. 1954 01:41:47.560 --> 01:41:49.359 This is enormous. I will tell you when they're not. 1955 01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:51.680 I think the rest of them are normal size. Okay, 1956 01:41:53.920 --> 01:41:56.199 seventy I will I will show a picture of this 1957 01:41:56.279 --> 01:41:56.760 in the chat. 1958 01:41:58.039 --> 01:42:00.119 Boll are weird about missus Matt. I'm gonna say seven. 1959 01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:03.800 People are weird about missus Matt. How much did you say? 1960 01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:05.680 Seventy five? 1961 01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:10.119 Look, I'm there's no internal consistency anyway. I was trying 1962 01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:12.359 to keep a notepad so I could have some internal consistency, 1963 01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:14.479 and I've lost it. I mean, so I think I'm 1964 01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:15.920 gonna say think I will. 1965 01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:19.000 You know what the actual problem is here with this 1966 01:42:20.279 --> 01:42:24.960 because it's a bobblehead. The proportions are wrong because they 1967 01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:28.359 she's a huge baseball head. Normally it looks really like 1968 01:42:28.399 --> 01:42:31.199 you're shrinking the head. Yeah, it's like a normal bobblehead. 1969 01:42:31.239 --> 01:42:34.079 The person's head is back. Yeah, that's what's throwing you off. 1970 01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:39.680 Yeah, it is throwing you offfty bucks, all right. Next one, 1971 01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:43.279 a ben Zoe brist Eureka High School bobblehead. 1972 01:42:44.319 --> 01:42:45.680 I'm sorry, what. 1973 01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:48.600 Is that? That's where he went down? 1974 01:42:49.119 --> 01:42:52.359 It is sure, sure from Usaka High School. They made 1975 01:42:52.359 --> 01:42:54.800 a bobblehead commemorating that he was the star of his 1976 01:42:54.880 --> 01:42:55.640 high school baseball. 1977 01:42:56.239 --> 01:43:00.319 Okay, so is this from the high school? I'm why 1978 01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:02.239 it's in the bobblehead Hall of Fame. 1979 01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:06.000 Yeah, I'm assuming this is when they made themselves because 1980 01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:06.840 they thought it would sell. 1981 01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:11.199 Is he from like Wisconsin? I don't think he is. 1982 01:43:13.239 --> 01:43:15.199 I don't. Yeah, there's a lot of Erika high schools 1983 01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:15.439 out there. 1984 01:43:15.600 --> 01:43:20.399 Said one hundred dollars. It's weird. Wow, it's rare and weird. 1985 01:43:21.319 --> 01:43:23.359 I don't know why people, I don't why I bobbleheads 1986 01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:23.960 on people. 1987 01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:27.600 Bobbleheads thirty five dollars. 1988 01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:31.279 Thirty five dollars. Okay, we're gonna do that. 1989 01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:34.039 You've never seen someone do this bad as a game 1990 01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:36.960 and at a game, And and that includes my performance 1991 01:43:37.239 --> 01:43:39.840 from a couple of pods ago that I got contacted 1992 01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:43.520 by multiple people about. 1993 01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:45.399 We're gonna do two more. 1994 01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:48.319 I think how many more are there? 1995 01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:51.159 And there's there's more than two. Next one is an 1996 01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:56.319 Alec Manoa Toronto Blue Jays game breaker bobblehead. I don't 1997 01:43:56.319 --> 01:44:00.960 know what game breaker means. It's just Alec Manoa standing there. Yeah, well, 1998 01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:06.800 and it's what. Yeah, he's here. He's just saying, he's 1999 01:44:06.840 --> 01:44:11.199 just getting there. He's looking at I would say, yeah, 2000 01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:15.600 it's got the glove up, he's getting he's happy, he's whatever, 2001 01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:19.199 the call is, the catcher, he is satisfied with whatever, 2002 01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:20.000 he's whatever. 2003 01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:24.279 Oh yeah, he's he's like. They just like, yeah, that's 2004 01:44:24.359 --> 01:44:26.800 very nice. It's got like the Nathan Fielder. The catcher 2005 01:44:26.840 --> 01:44:27.640 is just out of frame. 2006 01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:31.600 Yeah, I'm just sixty ft out of frame. Yeah, I'm 2007 01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:34.399 gonna do thirty five dollars again, thirty five dollars. All right, 2008 01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:37.159 Jeff thirty. 2009 01:44:36.920 --> 01:44:40.880 Five dollars says this is utterly worthless to me. That's 2010 01:44:40.079 --> 01:44:41.720 what I mean. 2011 01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:43.319 He had that good year with the Blue Chase, haven't 2012 01:44:43.319 --> 01:44:43.600 she said? 2013 01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:44.560 Seventy bucks? 2014 01:44:44.720 --> 01:44:48.079 But this isn't like what it costs like a peak price, right, 2015 01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:49.399 this is like the peak Now. 2016 01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:51.079 I think it's like half as much as. 2017 01:44:52.239 --> 01:44:53.359 On the store at the moment. 2018 01:44:53.399 --> 01:44:57.600 But yeah, well, I look, I did bad on Austin Jackson. 2019 01:44:57.720 --> 01:45:02.880 Sure, all right, and the last one, and uh, what 2020 01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:05.239 a what a good one? Man on it's a doctor 2021 01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:12.560 Fauci Washington Nationals. For first, here's your picture. He is, 2022 01:45:12.720 --> 01:45:15.239 in fact wearing a mask. He appears to be pitching 2023 01:45:15.399 --> 01:45:20.359 at a plate that is forty or fifty feet off 2024 01:45:20.359 --> 01:45:20.800 the ground. 2025 01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:23.439 Oh yeah, he is. 2026 01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:26.560 He is looking up into the right of where he 2027 01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:30.960 is purportedly aiming. It's a weird that's a weird one. 2028 01:45:31.479 --> 01:45:34.640 I cannot imagine money exchange. 2029 01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:37.640 I will, I will, I will pull a krag and 2030 01:45:37.680 --> 01:45:39.520 go exactly with the average and say eighty. 2031 01:45:39.319 --> 01:45:42.720 Dollars eighty bucks, all right, Craig, Honestly, I might just 2032 01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:45.920 have to say the same thing. I have no idea. 2033 01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:48.039 I cannot imagine money being exchange for this. 2034 01:45:48.119 --> 01:45:52.680 Okay, all right, yeah, all right, okay, So we're gonna 2035 01:45:52.680 --> 01:45:54.479 stop there, and Craig is the winner? 2036 01:45:54.720 --> 01:45:57.920 What is it? Just and Judge? 2037 01:45:58.359 --> 01:45:59.159 That was the big one. 2038 01:45:59.279 --> 01:46:01.279 That's the all the want I felt remotely okay about. 2039 01:46:01.479 --> 01:46:05.960 Yeah, you were you were the closest on uh one 2040 01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:10.840 of the people just front. So we'll start with the 2041 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:15.279 Kyle right when that was seventy so Jeff was very 2042 01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:18.960 close to sixty five. Uh, the Shan the Tommy Judge 2043 01:46:18.960 --> 01:46:24.479 one was one thousand dollars. So Craig, you've got one 2044 01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:25.680 hundred point of damage there. 2045 01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:28.159 I mean, when you think about it, it's basically on 2046 01:46:28.199 --> 01:46:30.920 a table in your living room. It's basically like, you. 2047 01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:36.319 Know, yeah, that is a conversation piece. Very upsetting to 2048 01:46:36.359 --> 01:46:41.199 me is that the moose is eight hundred dollars. Whoa 2049 01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:42.960 eight hundred dollars? 2050 01:46:43.159 --> 01:46:46.359 I I you know, so I felt bad about that, 2051 01:46:46.399 --> 01:46:49.039 but I also like where I really felt. 2052 01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:51.239 I by twenty five bucks, I said one hundred. 2053 01:46:51.479 --> 01:46:54.359 Yeah it was was, I said, miss one hundred twenty 2054 01:46:54.399 --> 01:46:55.960 five and then I said, missus Matt nothing but like 2055 01:46:56.039 --> 01:46:58.520 I thought, the All Star Game, miss of it is 2056 01:46:58.640 --> 01:47:01.560 like some reason eight hundred. 2057 01:47:01.920 --> 01:47:06.800 Imagine imagine having eight hundred dollars and being like instead 2058 01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:12.199 of having this, I'd rather have this plastic. 2059 01:47:14.199 --> 01:47:17.119 It doesn't even look like particularly, it does not look 2060 01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:20.479 like off brand. It does not look like this is 2061 01:47:20.479 --> 01:47:23.680 like I don't know, I don't think jay Ward Productions 2062 01:47:23.720 --> 01:47:26.520 could sustain a lawsuit here, But it's. 2063 01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:31.560 What is this pose he's doing? Yeah? Yeah, he's like, like, 2064 01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:34.920 what's going on with the shoulder hip separation going on 2065 01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:37.760 in this? From this? And like he's insane. 2066 01:47:37.960 --> 01:47:41.520 They really needed to like color the moose's feet too, because. 2067 01:47:41.560 --> 01:47:46.000 I will post like what is the post? He's got 2068 01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:48.119 a glove on his left hand. Has he just thrown 2069 01:47:48.119 --> 01:47:48.960 a pitch? What's happened? 2070 01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:51.600 No, he's strutting. What am I look strutting? And he's like, 2071 01:47:51.720 --> 01:47:52.560 oh hey. 2072 01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:59.640 The proportions he already for a maskoything. It also like 2073 01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:03.159 one of the like nineteenth century gloves they like there's 2074 01:48:03.199 --> 01:48:05.079 no like articulation or design on the glove. 2075 01:48:05.359 --> 01:48:08.520 No, it is it looks like he did It looks 2076 01:48:08.520 --> 01:48:12.079 like he was born with one on the actually look like. 2077 01:48:12.720 --> 01:48:14.920 I wouldn't take eight hundred cents for. 2078 01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:18.279 This, Okay, I guess he doesn't have like like like 2079 01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:20.000 different colored hooves. 2080 01:48:20.319 --> 01:48:21.560 Yeah, which is weird, but. 2081 01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:23.239 It still looks it makes it look weird. When you're 2082 01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:25.920 just like, I got his feet like splay up like that. 2083 01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:29.720 If you guys, at least not if you're listening to 2084 01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:31.079 this at home and you need to see what this 2085 01:48:31.159 --> 01:48:32.760 looks like, join the discord, will I will. 2086 01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:36.079 I'm not entirely sure which direction the theaters posts are 2087 01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:38.760 going either, which is very discount Look at. 2088 01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:41.000 His waist they're going. Yeah, I agree, Well, I was 2089 01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:43.520 very disoriented at but they already. 2090 01:48:44.119 --> 01:48:50.840 They both wearing shorts. 2091 01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:55.239 Why is he wearing shorts? Is short? I guess he is. 2092 01:48:56.760 --> 01:48:59.840 He's not a glove on. Why is he wearing the. 2093 01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:02.239 Thoughts were those shorts? Remember in the seventies. 2094 01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:05.000 This is the Mariners. 2095 01:49:05.319 --> 01:49:07.960 I also, like, I was concerned until I saw the 2096 01:49:07.960 --> 01:49:15.680 belt that he was like Donald Duck in it. Like, 2097 01:49:16.119 --> 01:49:17.520 I gotta go back to the feet for a second, 2098 01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:24.439 because it like looks like hooves or regular feet. 2099 01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:26.439 No, Like he's just. 2100 01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:29.479 Standing like he's. 2101 01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:30.439 Got a heel down and he's kind of up on 2102 01:49:30.479 --> 01:49:30.920 his toes. 2103 01:49:31.439 --> 01:49:34.199 He's on one knee, the other one he's trying to 2104 01:49:34.239 --> 01:49:36.000 put his weight on a snapped ankle. 2105 01:49:36.640 --> 01:49:40.279 One heel is extremely I mean, like your foot shouldn't 2106 01:49:40.359 --> 01:49:41.039 bend like that. 2107 01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:47.319 Yeah, eight hundred dollars, eight hundred dollars, eight American dollars. 2108 01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:52.439 I just like, think of the number of people you 2109 01:49:52.479 --> 01:49:53.079 could feed. 2110 01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:55.680 I think if you if you buy that and put 2111 01:49:55.680 --> 01:49:57.439 that on your end, on the end of your table 2112 01:49:57.479 --> 01:50:00.359 and with a price tag. Now you've got a conversation starter. 2113 01:50:03.359 --> 01:50:07.720 All right, Yeah, moving on, moving on. So Craig took 2114 01:50:07.760 --> 01:50:10.439 on that one by twenty five bucks. Austin Jackson's catch 2115 01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:14.000 is only forty dollars, So Jeff wins that one. But 2116 01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:15.359 you know you lost forty on. 2117 01:50:15.319 --> 01:50:16.600 That right, Okay, that's fine. 2118 01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:20.319 That was a delta twenty five against you. Would you 2119 01:50:20.479 --> 01:50:24.399 just you gave back your moose winnings? Okay, but it 2120 01:50:24.439 --> 01:50:26.840 didn't matter because going up one hundred on the on 2121 01:50:26.880 --> 01:50:28.840 the ati, I think was all that was the difference. 2122 01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:34.279 Missus Mitt was eighty, so Jeff was very close. Seventy five. 2123 01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:39.199 Craig said, fifty the ben Zoe Brist jersey, this one. 2124 01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:41.359 I thought this one might might kill me. 2125 01:50:41.640 --> 01:50:42.760 Twenty five dollars. 2126 01:50:42.960 --> 01:50:44.520 Oh oh, I made it back. 2127 01:50:44.680 --> 01:50:46.319 It makes one. Yeah, you made it back on that 2128 01:50:46.359 --> 01:50:50.920 one easily. Also, like if you're selling a ben Zoebrist 2129 01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:54.880 high school bobble head for twenty five dollars. Why did 2130 01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:59.119 you make a ben Zoe brist High School at that's right, 2131 01:50:59.199 --> 01:51:02.159 I don't know the Alec Minoan. You guys almost perfectly 2132 01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:04.399 split the difference. It was fifty two, so Craig was 2133 01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:08.079 seventeen hundred, jeff Jeffrey was eighteen over. Okay, so good job. 2134 01:51:07.920 --> 01:51:08.520 Tying on that. 2135 01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:12.439 And then finally the doctor fauci one is forty bucks, 2136 01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:15.079 so you guys were both over by right. We bet 2137 01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:19.119 you two. So congratulations to Craig. As a wow. You 2138 01:51:19.319 --> 01:51:21.880 have to go out and buy one of those. You 2139 01:51:21.880 --> 01:51:24.560 can just do it right now, and you need to 2140 01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:27.079 put it on your next time you do like some 2141 01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:29.119 next send me to TV next time, I will be 2142 01:51:29.199 --> 01:51:32.359 network has you on? You need to have the you 2143 01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:34.000 need to have the moose in the background. 2144 01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:38.880 I can't just wait. I cannot afford the moose. If 2145 01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:41.560 it was like eighty bucks as a gag gift, I might, 2146 01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:45.479 I might. I don't. I would be really unhappy, but 2147 01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:49.239 I would be happy about the gag. I eight hundred, 2148 01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:51.239 My god, if I. 2149 01:51:51.199 --> 01:51:53.359 Saw that in the threat store for eight I would 2150 01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:54.279 I don't get it. 2151 01:51:55.079 --> 01:51:56.920 I don't, I really don't. I would not want I 2152 01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:58.880 would not pay eight. Yeah, I mean I say I 2153 01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:02.560 would not. I just said I might do it, but 2154 01:52:02.680 --> 01:52:05.560 like only as a gag. I mean you could buy 2155 01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:09.039 it for eight tell people, Jeff, Jeff No. 2156 01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:11.279 I told her was eight hundred dollars. In her response was, no, 2157 01:52:11.319 --> 01:52:14.119 one has that much money, not. 2158 01:52:14.079 --> 01:52:15.039 For that eight people. 2159 01:52:15.239 --> 01:52:17.199 Eight people have that much money and they have enough 2160 01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:20.119 money to buy eight hundred of them. 2161 01:52:20.199 --> 01:52:22.560 All right, Well, thank you very much, thank you for 2162 01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:22.960 the game. 2163 01:52:24.039 --> 01:52:27.680 Thank you to both of you for participating in it 2164 01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:28.960 because you were obligated too. 2165 01:52:31.560 --> 01:52:33.720 And thank you to our listeners for joining us on 2166 01:52:33.800 --> 01:52:35.720 another episode of five and Dive brought to you by 2167 01:52:35.720 --> 01:52:38.239 the Baseball Perspectives podcast Network. 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