Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wine and Wine Podcast. I'm Kelsey and
Speaker 1: I'm Ellie. This is your dose of friendship, fun and
Speaker 1: figuring life out together. Let's be e besties because life
Speaker 1: is messy, Wine, hopes and whiny is optional.
Speaker 2: Hi guys, Hey guys, welcome back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are here with a guest and we are
Speaker 3: so excited.
Speaker 4: But before we get to it, we want to recap
Speaker 4: last week's episode. We got a lot of really good feedback. So, Ellie,
Speaker 4: what have you been hearing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was so funny. I had a book
Speaker 5: club last night and we were just kind of talking
Speaker 5: about like their opinions and stuff. And one of my
Speaker 5: girlfriends had a really good example and they're like, well,
Speaker 5: have you ever watched the movie When Harry Met Sally?
Speaker 3: And it was such a good movie.
Speaker 2: That's a classic. But that also makes sense too.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess eventually they did like end up
Speaker 5: following each other, but I think they were.
Speaker 2: Never in like a serious relationship prior to that.
Speaker 5: Another thing is they were talking about how it's kind
Speaker 5: of like a grandfather plan. It's like if you have
Speaker 5: a guy friend before your relationship, then they're grandfathered in
Speaker 5: as like friends. But then maybe after that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was one of those things where
Speaker 2: it's like I just got all this.
Speaker 5: Information and I was like, when my girlfriends said this,
Speaker 5: and one said this, but I think it's all just
Speaker 5: very situational.
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, yeah, I agree. And I was even talking
Speaker 3: to Will.
Speaker 2: He's not listened, but I was telling.
Speaker 4: Him what our topic was and everything, and he said
Speaker 4: the same thing. Because I have my one friend that
Speaker 4: I've known since I was eight, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: what do you think And he's like, well, you guys
Speaker 4: have known each other forever. He's like, I've seen you
Speaker 4: guys together. There's no sexual chemistry at all. He's like,
Speaker 4: I love I love this person. And he's like, I
Speaker 4: think that it's the same thing. He's like, I think
Speaker 4: it's situational. If you've known each other forever, I think
Speaker 4: it's fine. He's like, but if, yeah, if you were
Speaker 4: just to meet some guy and then all of a
Speaker 4: sudden you're friends with them while we're dating, He's like,
Speaker 4: that would be weird.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I do know. I texted my girlfriends this
Speaker 5: morning and one sent like a voice memo and one
Speaker 5: just texted me but me, and OS was like, if
Speaker 5: you're making new friends as an adult while in a relationship. No,
Speaker 5: I don't think so that's two blurred of lines. That's
Speaker 5: only if you're in a relationship and the guy is single. No,
Speaker 5: So which kind of makes sense. I mean she's talking
Speaker 5: about a very specific situation, like if you're in a
Speaker 5: relationship and then you make like as the girl make
Speaker 5: a guy friend, Like.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a little awkward, you know.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, yeah, that kind of makes sense actually,
Speaker 5: And I think we also, just as we were getting
Speaker 5: ready to start recording, I think we had like a
Speaker 5: prime like example of maybe where we differ on things too,
Speaker 5: because wait, what do you want.
Speaker 2: To say it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the like we listened to that voice memo
Speaker 4: and she was just sharing how she doesn't think that
Speaker 4: it's okay if you have a really good guy friend
Speaker 4: and are sharing stories about you in your current relationship.
Speaker 4: And I disagreed with that because I'm like, well, this
Speaker 4: person that's my friend. I do sometimes like I'm not
Speaker 4: just bitching to him constantly about what's going on in
Speaker 4: my relationship. I don't have a lot to bitch about,
Speaker 4: but sometimes I want the male perspective, and I know
Speaker 4: he's going to be unbiased and he's going to be
Speaker 4: honest with me, but it's not in a weird way,
Speaker 4: Whereas then you were thinking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So then I had my opinion as far as like,
Speaker 5: oh no, that's right. I don't think like if I
Speaker 5: were to get in a relationship, I wouldn't talk about
Speaker 5: my relationship to my guy friends just because, like I
Speaker 5: feel like maybe sometimes that would cross like an emotional
Speaker 5: vulnerability where but she had a.
Speaker 2: Really good example.
Speaker 5: It's like my girlfriend who voice memoed meme, which was
Speaker 5: not mean, I was just another girlfriend. She was like,
Speaker 5: you don't want to get into a space where you're
Speaker 5: talking to a guy friend about stuff that you need
Speaker 5: to be talking to your partner about and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, that totally makes that makes sense
Speaker 5: for sure, for sure, yees, So I agree, which all
Speaker 5: comes down to, like it was so much more than
Speaker 5: a yes and no, Like it's a very situation.
Speaker 3: It's very situational.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And right before we started recording, we just put
Speaker 4: something on our story. We've actually already got responses, so
Speaker 4: I wanted to share that real quick.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So it was just a yes, no.
Speaker 4: Or it depends poll and we have forty percent think
Speaker 4: that yes, guys and girls can be friends, twenty percent
Speaker 4: said no, and another forty percent say it depends and
Speaker 4: it's situational. So there are more people on our page
Speaker 4: than just our book club girlies that rip us apart.
Speaker 2: Crystals like I know, I was there.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 5: Which speaking of Crystal, yes, we got Crystal our first
Speaker 5: guest I eat Besties. So I realize that I totally
Speaker 5: spaced in providing a background and information as far as
Speaker 5: to what Taro is and how Crystal channels that for her.
Speaker 5: So I actually had her reach out to me and
Speaker 5: kind of give me an explanation so I can explain
Speaker 5: that to y'all and how she channels so she said.
Speaker 5: Tarot readings our a seventy eight card suit meant to
Speaker 5: reach out to spirit guides, guardian angels, the universe. What
Speaker 5: have you is to help guide you to your highest self.
Speaker 5: Tarot readings will often give you the message that you need,
Speaker 5: which often does not coincide with what you want. Messages
Speaker 5: can be warnings to help get you back on track,
Speaker 5: or motivation to keep you going. Each reading requires the
Speaker 5: receiver to be open to receiving messages. From the reader.
Speaker 5: It requires both people to be vulnerable and receptive, so
Speaker 5: this is how she channels. Channeling differs from reader to reader.
Speaker 5: When I'm reading cards, I often will pull cards, examine
Speaker 5: them and let my mind wander. Whether it's a memory
Speaker 5: that pops up or a song from my past. I
Speaker 5: let it lead me to the message. Things can happen
Speaker 5: externally that guides me to a message as well, like
Speaker 5: a dog barking or a car revn it's engine. It
Speaker 5: could be more aggressive, like electronic sign or an alarm
Speaker 5: going off. The universe is sending messages all the time.
Speaker 5: Some are just more difficult to read than others. So
Speaker 5: I hope that helps explaining it, and let's get back
Speaker 5: into the episode. Thanks y'all, Okay, yes, thank you for
Speaker 5: being our first guest.
Speaker 7: Oh, I didn't know that, would I realize that that's cool.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I like signaling to get closer to the mic,
Speaker 2: Like I know, it's so intimidating.
Speaker 3: You have to be uncomfortably close.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so we thought we'd start with Crystal introducing
Speaker 4: herself and a little bit about how.
Speaker 3: She knows us, and then she also brought us a
Speaker 3: lovely wine, so we'll go from there.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So I'm Crystal Wopshot. I know I've known Ellie forever.
Speaker 7: It feels like I think, like for about ten years.
Speaker 5: Fifteen years now, girl, holy shit, because it was twenty ten.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's that is.
Speaker 7: A long time. Because I said seven years in the okay.
Speaker 2: Which was seven years ago. I feel like I can't
Speaker 2: do math, yeah pretty much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I can't do math either. But and with Kelsey,
Speaker 7: I met with book club. Yeah yeah, little a little
Speaker 7: over year yep.
Speaker 5: So yeah, girlies, yes, but yes, tell us about like
Speaker 5: your experience with taro and how you've been digging into
Speaker 5: it and all the things.
Speaker 7: Okay, So I got these cards about ten years ago
Speaker 7: and I was just too nervous to start reading them.
Speaker 7: And then around twenty twenty one, I just picked them
Speaker 7: up and started like play with them and stopped for
Speaker 7: a bit kind of was just like, oh, not ready
Speaker 7: for it. And then over the last year I've just
Speaker 7: consistently done it over like in the mornings, in a night,
Speaker 7: trying to get used to them. So this is me.
Speaker 7: I'm still I feel like I'm still new. But I
Speaker 7: might be saying that forever because the message has always
Speaker 7: come through differently with each person you read.
Speaker 2: So that's so cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always been so interested in Taro. I've never
Speaker 3: had a reading done, so I'm really excited.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I remember when Crystal first started getting into it.
Speaker 5: Well you got I feel like you got into it
Speaker 5: and then you did it and then you got into
Speaker 5: it again because you've had him for a while. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And like I swear, this is the friend I was
Speaker 5: talking about like last time when we're talking about Tara,
Speaker 5: where I was like, this girl never misses. It's insane,
Speaker 5: Like she'll like I'll like go to her and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: so I'm talking to this.
Speaker 2: Guy and can you just kind of tell me? And
Speaker 2: she'll like tell me the message? And I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: are you try again?
Speaker 5: And I'm not kidding, like like it just it happens,
Speaker 5: you know, like the message was meant for me and
Speaker 5: it happened in that way, and I was like, Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 5: thanks for you guys.
Speaker 2: You know, but it was so funny. I have to
Speaker 2: tell this example. We were talking about it before we
Speaker 2: started recording, and it was hilarious. But was it Christmas?
Speaker 5: It was the Christmas Christmas So we did a girl's
Speaker 5: Night Christmas party this past December, and Crystal brought her
Speaker 5: tarot cards and she's like, hey, guys, like, no pressure,
Speaker 5: but if you guys want me to read your.
Speaker 2: Taro I can. So everybody's like yeah.
Speaker 5: So she went outside and she did individually for whomever
Speaker 5: wanted it, and I go out.
Speaker 8: There was it about a guy or was it about
Speaker 8: it about Yeah, we just.
Speaker 2: Had a look at each other and I was like AnyWho.
Speaker 5: And so it was so funny because Chrystal is a
Speaker 5: certain way of like shuffling cards, and so she like
Speaker 5: shuffled the cards and then she gave me the answer
Speaker 5: I didn't want to hear.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, no, I said, Crystal, those cards over.
Speaker 7: That's like my shuffle is fine, girl, this messages for you.
Speaker 2: That was literally the capricorn in me.
Speaker 5: I was like, you're not shuffling them right, Like I
Speaker 5: love you, but like I need you to like shuffle
Speaker 5: it better because it's like big shuffles.
Speaker 2: I was like hand them to me and she's like,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness. And I'm so like that, Like I'm
Speaker 2: very much like let me do it my way, and
Speaker 2: so I like am shuffling.
Speaker 5: Like Christmas aggressively and like five times. Like I was like,
Speaker 5: they need to be real, Like I changed the way
Speaker 5: I shuffled them, and I was like, here you go.
Speaker 5: I think they're like better shuffle and so anyway, Chris
Speaker 5: was like, oh, okay, whatever, but yeah, and so she
Speaker 5: like pulls out the exact same fucking car.
Speaker 6: I died.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, because it was to be. I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, spirit guys, jokes on me. You're really
Speaker 2: gonna make me look stupid in front of my dad.
Speaker 2: But it was spot on too, so good I go good.
Speaker 7: I was right.
Speaker 2: No, just so we can question. I told you. I
Speaker 2: was just saying. I was like, all right, well, I'll
Speaker 2: just let her do her.
Speaker 7: Thing, you know, I'll let her shuffle the way she
Speaker 7: wants to.
Speaker 6: Go.
Speaker 7: Well we're excited, Yes, I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So do you want to tell something
Speaker 3: about the winey brop?
Speaker 2: Yes, thanks for keeping us.
Speaker 3: That's my job here, guys, I'm just the timekeeper.
Speaker 7: So I brought I brought the laprous Luna. I think
Speaker 7: that's how it's pronounced. It's a red blend. The appearance
Speaker 7: is a rich ruby color. The Aroma is ripe, dark
Speaker 7: fruit with hints of spice. The taste and I haven't
Speaker 7: tasted it yet, so hopefully this is ripe, rich and
Speaker 7: ripe blueberries, blackberries with lingering notes of brown spice. The
Speaker 7: finish is smooth and well balanced. So I guess should
Speaker 7: we try it and see if that's true?
Speaker 2: Let's clink cheers think.
Speaker 3: Okay, then we do a little sniffy sniff.
Speaker 5: Sniff and swirl, swirl and sniff whatever. Yeah, we just
Speaker 5: pretend like we know what we're doing.
Speaker 3: The legs legging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just injected into my veins the legs be leging. Okay,
Speaker 2: I really like that. Oh yeah, that's good. That's really good. Okay,
Speaker 2: good call Crystal.
Speaker 7: It looks like a Tarot card on the front. It's
Speaker 7: a super top bottle. It was Yeah, it was meant
Speaker 7: to be. It was meant to be.
Speaker 2: Wait say how much?
Speaker 4: It was?
Speaker 7: Twelve ninety nine?
Speaker 3: Another budget wine.
Speaker 2: We love that budget wine.
Speaker 6: That was good.
Speaker 3: Okay, what would we collectively rate it?
Speaker 6: Ooh?
Speaker 2: Out of file I'm no, you go for no?
Speaker 7: Okay? I like I like red Blends, but I feel
Speaker 7: like I would give it an eight.
Speaker 2: Wait, this is out of five out of five.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, sorry, no, who? Okay?
Speaker 5: So four I would say, yeah, that translates before it
Speaker 5: sounds like yeah, I know, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I was thinking of four.
Speaker 4: Four.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's really good.
Speaker 6: I really like it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3: Perfect, Okay. So now let's get into it.
Speaker 2: And I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: So she had us come prepared with a couple.
Speaker 4: Of questions and so, yeah, just let us know how
Speaker 4: we how we go about this because I have, like
Speaker 4: I said, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I'm a newbie.
Speaker 7: Yeah okay, so who wants who wants to ask the
Speaker 7: question first?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 2: Do you want to go first? I can go first? Okay, okay, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So should start light or should I?
Speaker 7: Yes, let's start light, and then we can go into
Speaker 7: the heavier questions. I didn't know we were gonna do
Speaker 7: heavy questions.
Speaker 5: Well it's not like super heavy, but were you gonna
Speaker 5: say something before though, Crystal?
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say and so these were just
Speaker 7: yes and no questions, right and then okay, So when
Speaker 7: I read taro for yes and no questions, uh, the
Speaker 7: sun is a yes and the moon is a no.
Speaker 7: And then the three cards after can give an explanation.
Speaker 7: If the sun is upside down, that's my telling that
Speaker 7: it's like, yes, but there's a little bit more. There's
Speaker 7: a there's a little bit more, And same with the
Speaker 7: moon if it's upside down, then that's telling me that
Speaker 7: there's a little bit more that you need to or
Speaker 7: ask a little bit more detailed questions. And so that's
Speaker 7: how I read it. Okay, there's that.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see. I'm gonna start just really really light,
Speaker 3: just to dip my in.
Speaker 7: Okay, should I get Sophie a brother dog?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 7: I like that one, So I'm just gonna say yes,
Speaker 7: just kidding. Crystals questions.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm like, she's an only child, she's only child syndrome,
Speaker 4: but I still really want to get her.
Speaker 3: She gets along more with male dogs, which is why
Speaker 3: I say brother.
Speaker 4: But I also just want it because she's getting older,
Speaker 4: so that like, unfortunately that one day we lose her,
Speaker 4: there's still somebody left.
Speaker 3: I mean, there is a deeper reason, but Will keeps
Speaker 3: telling me no, and I'm like, but I want to
Speaker 3: so bad.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well let's see what the taras.
Speaker 7: Okay, we're gonna do one more shuffle of my thick
Speaker 7: shuffle shuffle, So I do it so many times.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 2: Okay, don't don't mind me, Crystal. I'm just in my
Speaker 2: Capricorn era.
Speaker 7: Embrace it all right? Should oh yes, you should.
Speaker 3: And it's a straight up yes, yay. Oh what's cute.
Speaker 7: It's what's coming after? Is it? So this is like
Speaker 7: a family card and it's upside down. So it's kind
Speaker 7: of just saying like, right now, let's bring it together.
Speaker 7: Let's you know, is your dog kind of like a
Speaker 7: like is he pretty? I guess, like, is he like
Speaker 7: the man of the house or is he kind of silly?
Speaker 7: She is, she's kind of is the house?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's kind of what they're saying is that it
Speaker 7: might be a little difficult at first because she she
Speaker 7: needs to get used to her. So yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 7: that's cute. That the family card. It's just like kind
Speaker 7: of brings it together.
Speaker 3: That's all right.
Speaker 2: Will you heard her?
Speaker 7: It was in the cards, It was.
Speaker 8: In the car.
Speaker 7: That was a strong Yes, it came out quick. All right,
Speaker 7: what's the next one?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 2: Okay? Question? So should kelso ask all her questions first
Speaker 2: because you're in her energy.
Speaker 7: That kind's how I like it. Yeah, I'm sorry, no, no.
Speaker 2: No, totally totally works.
Speaker 3: So I guess going into the next one, and this
Speaker 3: one's kind of a little bit more deep, but it's
Speaker 3: just because I'm curious. Am I on the right life path?
Speaker 7: So it has no but it's upside down, so they
Speaker 7: want a little bit more when you say life path.
Speaker 7: So the Night of Cups came out along with the
Speaker 7: Four of Cups and the Justice Card. The Night of
Speaker 7: Cups is in reverse, so what they're kind of saying
Speaker 7: is when it's upside down, it's giving this energy of
Speaker 7: unrealistic expectations. What they want for you is to really contemplate.
Speaker 7: So with the Four Cups, for me, that card kind
Speaker 7: of tells me that you really need to contemplate what
Speaker 7: you want in life. Cup cards are so they're emotional
Speaker 7: water energy, So okay, think of what you want personally
Speaker 7: out of life and what will get you to your
Speaker 7: happiest part is kind of the this is the word
Speaker 7: that's coming to mind and then you will find So
Speaker 7: the Justice card came out as well, which I kind
Speaker 7: of thought was weird with these two cause and effect
Speaker 7: a win win solutions. So with the unrealistic expectations and
Speaker 7: the content in plation, they want you to aim high.
Speaker 7: The message that I'm feeling is they want you to
Speaker 7: aim high, but if you fail, it's okay. You learn
Speaker 7: with failure as well.
Speaker 4: So okay, honestly, that's kind of how I've been feeling.
Speaker 4: So it winds up with it, okay.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So and if you want it, like again, when
Speaker 7: I say the cards at the bottom, yeah, king of cups,
Speaker 7: so king of cups energy is also which is funny
Speaker 7: because cups, cups, cups, so it's all kind of just
Speaker 7: and it's all masculine energy too, So maybe they want
Speaker 7: you to step into your masculine energy too, Okay, interesting, yeah, okay, Okay,
Speaker 7: do you want more or is that no?
Speaker 3: I honestly, like I said, that lines up to how
Speaker 3: I was feeling, and I think I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wait where you asking about more questions?
Speaker 4: Well, if you want clarification, clarification, I mean, if you
Speaker 4: can provide a little more clarification, but I don't want
Speaker 4: to make you go too deep either, like that's not
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 7: I feel like we should go with how you're feelings. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so if in that case, I'm going to do something
Speaker 7: a little different, Okay. And when I read people, I
Speaker 7: do it this way. I did this with Ellie.
Speaker 2: Where I was like, give me those cards.
Speaker 7: Wrong, Okay, come over here.
Speaker 3: I'm going to have you split the.
Speaker 2: Deck with your left hand.
Speaker 5: So Crystal just sprawled them out on the table and
Speaker 5: Kelso is choosing three cards out of the spread.
Speaker 7: I kind of I always worry like saying the cards
Speaker 7: because for me it means something then what other terror
Speaker 7: readers might get. So just so you know, if you're
Speaker 7: you hear this and you're like, that's not how I
Speaker 7: would read it, well, it's.
Speaker 4: Like it's.
Speaker 3: Right, So it is supposed to be the reader's interpretation.
Speaker 6: Yes, so.
Speaker 7: Again cup energy and then so nine of nine of
Speaker 7: cups and then seven of penticles and the page of wants.
Speaker 7: So and I'm not just saying this because I have
Speaker 7: been listening to the podcast, but it did say you
Speaker 7: are you're focusing on your health, right, Yes, that's where
Speaker 7: you need to be to You're in the right direction
Speaker 7: with that. So they are applauding you on that page
Speaker 7: of wants is like silly energy. So I think from
Speaker 7: when I'm whenever I get like page energy, it's always young,
Speaker 7: like youthful. So is that kind of where you're Are
Speaker 7: you trying to get back to where you were, yes,
Speaker 7: in the past. Okay, all right, so they want you
Speaker 7: to focus on that, okay, in that sense, and again
Speaker 7: it's that card the family. Yeah, so this is in
Speaker 7: order to get from from what I'm trying to get here. Sorry,
Speaker 7: it's sometimes it takes me a long time to get
Speaker 7: it out. The energy that I'm filling with this kind
Speaker 7: of pool is that they want you to focus on
Speaker 7: your health, okay, and take it one step at a time. Yeah,
Speaker 7: with the family card at the bottom, you're they're in
Speaker 7: this card. She's building like she's building a family, she's growing,
Speaker 7: you know, she's growing a garden and stuff. So really
Speaker 7: take your time with life. Okay, an event and you
Speaker 7: will you will be on the right path. Okay, okay, awesome, Yeah,
Speaker 7: love it?
Speaker 3: Okay, good cue that works? Okay, all right, Okay, next question,
Speaker 3: how many? How many would you like.
Speaker 2: Us to ask?
Speaker 7: Okay, let's see we are at twelve thirty nine, all right,
Speaker 7: and you have to be you can ask as much
Speaker 7: as you want. Let's just watch the time.
Speaker 5: How's that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, do you have like two more?
Speaker 4: Don't you?
Speaker 3: I have one more more? Than mostly one more. Okay,
Speaker 3: this one could doom.
Speaker 7: USh, but will this podcast be successful? Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't want to.
Speaker 7: I don't want to do that one.
Speaker 2: I knew you were going to ask, we can cut
Speaker 2: this one out if we don't like it.
Speaker 7: Okay, good, Okay, I knew you were going to ask that.
Speaker 2: I was like, what if they ask it, don't don't
Speaker 2: put weird vibes out there.
Speaker 7: And telling my dad, I was like, just put the
Speaker 7: sun up front, okay.
Speaker 5: To me, But here's another thing, and I as as
Speaker 5: crystal shuffling, and you can like confirm or deny or
Speaker 5: put in your like two cents about it too. But
Speaker 5: like I feel like with Taro it is so aligned
Speaker 5: to as far as like what's happening and like what
Speaker 5: your spirit guides want you to tell you. But in
Speaker 5: the end, I feel like we also do have like
Speaker 5: free will, you know what I mean. So I I
Speaker 5: think you've told me this before. You're like, hey, it's
Speaker 5: always been I don't, it's only been I get the answer.
Speaker 2: I don't want you know.
Speaker 5: You're like, hey, but just remember you have free will.
Speaker 5: So yeah, like this is here, but you have free
Speaker 5: will to choose and do what you should or should
Speaker 5: not do? Basically, Yeah, I don't know if that clarifies
Speaker 5: anything for it like that, it's or that's coming up.
Speaker 7: When I do my morning rereads, I oftentime will be like, okay,
Speaker 7: I want to hear about what my life is going
Speaker 7: to be, like what like after kids? And then they
Speaker 7: my spirit GUIDs will direct me and be like, you
Speaker 7: need to focus on the here and now girl. Are
Speaker 7: you Are you doing everything.
Speaker 6: That you need to do?
Speaker 7: Are you working out? Are you eating healthy? Are you
Speaker 7: spending time with your kids? Are you staying off your phone?
Speaker 7: And it's kind of like, okay, you don't want to
Speaker 7: talk about that yet, you know. So sometimes you come
Speaker 7: in wanting a message and you leave with something else,
Speaker 7: and as the day goes on, you're like, oh, I
Speaker 7: actually did need that message. I did need that snap
Speaker 7: to reality. Yeah, so that's kind of taro.
Speaker 2: For you, I guess, Yeah, would makes sense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, yeah, all right, don't do me dirty here.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna do it one more time. So no, but
Speaker 7: again it's upside down. Okay, I didn't like that answer. Okay,
Speaker 7: lots of sword energy.
Speaker 3: What doesn't.
Speaker 7: There's an intellectual push and pull, you know, So page
Speaker 7: of swords in reverse. Not having enough material is going
Speaker 7: to be the downfall of it.
Speaker 2: So interesting.
Speaker 7: That's why I'm gonna just specify it's no, but it's
Speaker 7: in reverse. You have the opportunity to evolve it by
Speaker 7: evolving the podcast. When you start feeling, when you start
Speaker 7: feeling that, oh, these topics aren't hitting our audience, they're
Speaker 7: not relating anymore, make sure to evolve it, and don't
Speaker 7: be scared to evolve it. Okay, as well, let's.
Speaker 2: See what that's at the bottom.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm not going to show you that because it's scary.
Speaker 7: It's the Devil, but listen, don't it. I don't really
Speaker 7: like that one. But just don't give in to greed either,
Speaker 7: because that's the greed card for me. Whenever I see
Speaker 7: the devil, I link it with greed. So so, if
Speaker 7: you start getting brands and they want you to be
Speaker 7: a certain way and you don't agree with how they
Speaker 7: want you to be, you need to move away from them.
Speaker 4: Even if yeah, that was something we had said from
Speaker 4: the get go, is we don't ever want to become
Speaker 4: out of touch with reality.
Speaker 3: We don't want to to just become something like that.
Speaker 3: So hopefully that's good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that makes sense the whole evolution part, yes too,
Speaker 5: because I think even before you got here, we were
Speaker 5: having a conversation too about like just the conversations we're
Speaker 5: having and how we can open up more and be
Speaker 5: a bit more vulnerable, just because I think we relate
Speaker 5: to vulnerability so much. Yes, people we follow and like
Speaker 5: content that's out there. I think a lot of people
Speaker 5: are thirsting for that vulnerability. And so anyways, yeah, it
Speaker 5: was interesting that you up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's definitely. You're definitely on track with your
Speaker 7: audience right now. So just remember to always evolve it.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, wait, what does swords mean though? Or is
Speaker 2: that what that you were saying for me?
Speaker 7: Okay, So from when I've studied this, swords is like intellect.
Speaker 7: So when I'm reading this, it all popped up sword
Speaker 7: energy and page of Swords was upside down and what
Speaker 7: that is is weak information, so light. And then after
Speaker 7: that there's the Five of Swords, and it's if you're
Speaker 7: if you can see it, if you are familiar with
Speaker 7: the Five of Swords. Basically, there's a bunch of men
Speaker 7: looking around and they kind of just don't really know
Speaker 7: what to do and then ten of swords. It's kind
Speaker 7: of an aggressive card, but it's a man with ten
Speaker 7: swords in his back. And it's from the message that
Speaker 7: I'm picking up here is that without you know, without
Speaker 7: you know the right tools, without the right knowledge, without
Speaker 7: keeping up with your audience, you're gonna that's what's gonna
Speaker 7: be the deaf to you. But just basically, be prepared,
Speaker 7: be prepared.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you guys are so yeah, I think maybe.
Speaker 4: Well and hopefully like the fact that we've also bumped
Speaker 4: up to weekly episodes, so now there's more content, there's
Speaker 4: more information.
Speaker 3: Maybe that'll help.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you guys are very good about talking with
Speaker 7: your audience on your Instagram, so I'm sure you guys
Speaker 7: will see the the change with your audience. They'll be like, oh, well,
Speaker 7: we kind of want to hear more interviews or we
Speaker 7: want to hear more from you. I'm sure you guys
Speaker 7: will do just fine. So take this with a grain
Speaker 7: of salt.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, now.
Speaker 2: Belly stern about my turn? Wait crap, I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: my questions. Wait do I tell you now or after.
Speaker 7: You, chef you think about them?
Speaker 6: Chef?
Speaker 7: Okay, because you know how it takes me forever to show.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let me let me think about my question.
Speaker 6: Ones.
Speaker 2: Wait, I have one, but should I ask one? Or
Speaker 2: should I ask too?
Speaker 7: You can ask as many as you want as long
Speaker 7: as you have the time for it.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, let me think youre Okay, I'm
Speaker 5: going to start off lighthearted ish. Maybe all of them
Speaker 5: are lighthearted, who knows, and they'll probably just be quick.
Speaker 5: But my first question is am I going to get
Speaker 5: my dream hot body this year?
Speaker 7: Okay? I have the funniest story. I was practicing with
Speaker 7: my friend and she was like, I was like, give
Speaker 7: me a question, yes or no? And she goes, I
Speaker 7: want will you ask if I'm going to get a
Speaker 7: hot body? I'm like, I swear girl if you know yes,
Speaker 7: because I feel like Ellie has a hot bod. So
Speaker 7: you're already and they're probably just going to be like, well, yeah,
Speaker 7: you're already there, girl, So busy.
Speaker 3: Question is I.
Speaker 5: Just have like a set I know this sounds horrible,
Speaker 5: but I have like a set number in my head
Speaker 5: of like where I want to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll do it.
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, let's change because okay, let's change it
Speaker 7: because Okay, you have to be a very direct question
Speaker 7: because it's just going to say yes, like you're already there,
Speaker 7: you have a hot body.
Speaker 8: Am I'm going to reach my dream like goal weight
Speaker 8: perfect this year. Yeah, which I'm not going to relay
Speaker 8: out to the public. But it's basically thirty pounds less
Speaker 8: than I am.
Speaker 2: Now whoa.
Speaker 3: Little or is that a little?
Speaker 7: That's a day number, that's attainable.
Speaker 5: That's nothing crazy. It's not like I'm asking to be
Speaker 5: like sixty pounds eaters.
Speaker 3: Just thirty that is attainable.
Speaker 2: That's fifteen and fifteen together. Yeah, yeah, normal, the mathy's mathing.
Speaker 2: That's mathing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I feel like that's enough.
Speaker 7: Shuffling, Okay, be.
Speaker 2: Like no, bitch, no, as I like snacks.
Speaker 6: You don't know what.
Speaker 7: Every time I read you, I feel like, and You're
Speaker 7: gonna take my cards and shuffle them.
Speaker 3: Like I need to read shuffle.
Speaker 5: It's like a love pay relationship. When I get my
Speaker 5: Darrow's red from Crystal because it's like something I don't
Speaker 5: want to hear.
Speaker 2: But it's so on point. Yes, but why is it
Speaker 2: upside down?
Speaker 7: Because I know what it's gonna say.
Speaker 3: I already know.
Speaker 2: It's yes, But upside down. It was a sun upside down.
Speaker 7: Okay, it's a sun upside down and a lot.
Speaker 2: Of wand energy which is magic boots.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's like creativity and stuff like that. But let
Speaker 7: me see so taking breaks okay, yeah, all right, So
Speaker 7: be consistent, okay, because when it's upside down, that's that
Speaker 7: could be a negative. And also maintaining boundaries and persistence,
Speaker 7: so that is a good relationship to this. And then
Speaker 7: the Emperor upside down, It's just that is weird that
Speaker 7: it's upside down. Hold on, Sorry, sometimes I just need
Speaker 7: to read a refresher. Okay, Okay, tell it to me straight, girl,
Speaker 7: give it to me straight. Okay, Okay. So power with planning,
Speaker 7: so poor planning what they want you to do? Yes,
Speaker 7: you are definitely you are definitely going to make these goals,
Speaker 7: but you need to stay on track. You need to plan,
Speaker 7: you need to stay up to date. And I think
Speaker 7: with the ten of ones in reverse, it's saying like
Speaker 7: you just need to be consistent and because if it
Speaker 7: was up like this, it would just imply that you
Speaker 7: would have a lot of exhaustion, whereas with this, you
Speaker 7: don't want to get lazy with your goals.
Speaker 5: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. No, no, no, you're good. It totally
Speaker 2: makes sense because.
Speaker 5: Like I feel like I'm that person that will like
Speaker 5: mill prep, but if I run out of time during
Speaker 5: the weekend and then I do it, like I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'll just sit on Monday, but then I'm going to
Speaker 5: chancel Tuesday whatever, then I'm like eating out during those
Speaker 5: days that I didn't mill prep. So I think that's
Speaker 5: so spot on to be like, listen, bitch, you just
Speaker 5: have to plan, so then then you're not tempted to
Speaker 5: go out because you have the food ready to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I've been also being really good at like buying
Speaker 5: healthy are making healthy treats because I have such a
Speaker 5: sweet tooth. And then to get a bit more vulnerable,
Speaker 5: I have noticed and I have decided and I never
Speaker 5: thought this would be the case, but I do have
Speaker 5: an emotional eating problem.
Speaker 2: But I feel like a lot of people have it,
Speaker 2: but maybe not, maybe it's just okay. And so I'm like, fah,
Speaker 2: I just hate that that's a thing. And so I
Speaker 2: have to like really work.
Speaker 5: On fixing that because a lot of the times I'm
Speaker 5: not fucking hungry, I'm just am eating because.
Speaker 3: It's like you're sad or you're bored.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like this makes me happy, you know, like it's
Speaker 7: the worst Anywow, I am a total bored eater, so
Speaker 7: I totally understand that. Like when I get bored, I'm like,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna eat some chips. Yeah. Also, they're saying, don't
Speaker 7: let this stress you out too much. Okay, yeah, but
Speaker 7: stay focused, stay in the zone, and you'll definitely make
Speaker 7: your goals.
Speaker 2: Hot body here I come, baby, it's okay.
Speaker 5: My next so I have two more of If that's
Speaker 5: okay totally. My next question is, well, I kind of
Speaker 5: already know this one's a yes, but now it's like
Speaker 5: what if it's like a no?
Speaker 2: No, it's a note for me.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, like, and I don't even
Speaker 5: know how to word this, but like, am I going
Speaker 5: to become more financially stable this year?
Speaker 2: But like I feel like it's a yes just because
Speaker 2: financially my life has turned around here.
Speaker 5: But I guess, so I guess I want to ask
Speaker 5: a better question, like, oh, how's this Well, I learned
Speaker 5: how to manage money better now with more of like
Speaker 5: an influx of money, if that makes sense, because I
Speaker 5: think that's the root of all like causes with like
Speaker 5: just I know for me, like I just kind of
Speaker 5: suck at managing anything I have, And I don't know
Speaker 5: if it's a fear of money, if that makes any sense. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: there's like trauma based there, or like a scarcity mindset.
Speaker 2: Where you feel like you have to like hoard or
Speaker 2: like use it before it's gone. Like it's just like
Speaker 2: this weird. I just want to know if I basically
Speaker 2: fix my relationship with money this year.
Speaker 7: That's good, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm interesting. Let's get a good answer.
Speaker 4: Baby.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do one more fingers cross.
Speaker 7: So you're fixing. Ellie is wondering if she'll fix her
Speaker 7: relationship with money.
Speaker 2: With money, money, Mine, money, Money.
Speaker 3: Why don't we always break out into song?
Speaker 2: Episode never fails every freaking time.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, am I kind of nervy.
Speaker 7: This is the one you care about the most? Oh
Speaker 7: yes again, upside down. I have noticed that when I
Speaker 7: read Ellie, they always want to be very specific.
Speaker 2: Oh she's laughing.
Speaker 5: Okay, I feel like Crystal and guides like, I'm such
Speaker 5: a fucking running job. Okay, So.
Speaker 7: The money this okay, So pinnacles for me means something
Speaker 7: money is something of value, okay, And whenever I get
Speaker 7: this card, it's up. If it was up upright, that
Speaker 7: would actually be negative for me. It's the five of pinnacles.
Speaker 7: But since it's upside down, I would say this is
Speaker 7: a good thing. So the two people they they're outside
Speaker 7: of and the money is like the pinnacles. Sorry, the
Speaker 7: pinnacles are inside and they can't get to it because
Speaker 7: but since it's upside down, they're saying, yes, you can
Speaker 7: get to it. Just don't be silly with your money.
Speaker 7: Don't be silly, and you will be graced with gifts.
Speaker 7: I was laughing at the full card because I know
Speaker 7: Ellie and I know that she can sometimes do silly
Speaker 7: things with her money.
Speaker 2: I can I and I do all the time. The
Speaker 2: girl stopping some of your money and you'll have all
Speaker 2: and I literally swipe and I'm like, that looks right
Speaker 2: on my car. I'm like, WHOA, Maybe I should go
Speaker 2: fly out here somewhere.
Speaker 7: Sometimes she buys land on Mars. I don't know her.
Speaker 2: My gosh, did I do that too for your birthday?
Speaker 7: Nose for micn oh yep, I bought our land on
Speaker 7: land on Mars and her computer went really slow after that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it was a scam. I really
Speaker 2: don't think she owns an acre of Mars.
Speaker 7: Didn't you find it on group on?
Speaker 2: Oh I did?
Speaker 4: I did so freaking That's so cool though, Like if
Speaker 4: she actually owns land on Mars and we eventually have
Speaker 4: to one day go to Mars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's set. She's set, so you can house us
Speaker 2: all now. Really, I don't have for the future.
Speaker 7: It's like the best to you on track with your
Speaker 7: goals right now. Okay, I'm just speaking from your spirit.
Speaker 6: Guy, I'm just as bad she was, Like that was
Speaker 6: a good investment, and I'm over here like I don't know, Okay,
Speaker 6: thank you?
Speaker 5: That was that was really That's actually very spot on
Speaker 5: because I am really done with my money sometimes, but
Speaker 5: I'm not affirming that into my life anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm very mindful and I have good relationship.
Speaker 7: You really have changed with your money habits a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, thinks I was really cripples, I mean a
Speaker 5: little bit. But anyway, Okay, so I have my last question. Yes,
Speaker 5: drum roll, everybody.
Speaker 2: Just kidding.
Speaker 5: It's serious but not serious, but also not that serious
Speaker 5: but not super serious, but yeah, serious, do you know
Speaker 5: what it is?
Speaker 7: No, I'm scared.
Speaker 2: Wait, why are you scared?
Speaker 7: Don't be scared because you you got nervous there. So
Speaker 7: I was like, Okay, I mean I'm not to her, Okay,
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 5: I am a little nervy to ask, but I was
Speaker 5: just gonna ask, am I getting into a relationship this year?
Speaker 7: I do?
Speaker 2: Look, Crystal, honestly, it's not a do or die Crystal.
Speaker 2: It really is not. It really is not.
Speaker 3: But you want like specifically romantic relationship.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, let's ask it again. She wants a romantic relationship?
Speaker 3: Well, and not even.
Speaker 2: Like, am I just going to get into a romantic relationship?
Speaker 2: Which I guess it's weird because as.
Speaker 5: You get deeper into just conversations, it's like, well, do
Speaker 5: you want it or do you not want it? And
Speaker 5: I think that's where because Crystal and I have these
Speaker 5: conversations all the time about like manifestation and stuff. I
Speaker 5: feel like I'm a really good manifestor like I manifest
Speaker 5: the randomst shit and like it's just.
Speaker 2: So spot on for me.
Speaker 5: But I think it's because I'm so clear with my
Speaker 5: goals and what I want and then I just get
Speaker 5: it because it just happens. But I think I'm so
Speaker 5: wishy wash you with relationships like romantically wise, I'm like yes, no,
Speaker 5: maybe so yeah, like it's always just a back and
Speaker 5: forth every day. So I feel like the universe is
Speaker 5: not giving me that because I'm not clear if I
Speaker 5: want it or not. So all that to say is
Speaker 5: I might still be wishy washing.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 7: But will it happened I had?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah. All that to say is like whatever
Speaker 2: answer comes out, comes out.
Speaker 6: And it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm so nervous. I just don't know.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 7: One of my nerves with Tarot card is I'm I
Speaker 7: guess I get. I just want it to be like
Speaker 7: a positive message all the time when I read people,
Speaker 7: and so if it comes out negative, which I don't
Speaker 7: think it will, but if it ever.
Speaker 3: Does, like it's just like but also.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's perspective too, like if it's a
Speaker 5: yes or if it's a no, I feel like those
Speaker 5: are both good things. Yes, because yes, like okay, great,
Speaker 5: like I'm ready for one no, like hey Ellie, and
Speaker 5: it'll probably like explain like you got to work on staving. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so really don't think about it as it mean like
Speaker 5: a bad thing either which way, because I won't take
Speaker 5: it that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just curious, honestly. Okay, roll the dice.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry, e Ellie, Ellie, Ellie.
Speaker 7: Let's see what you need to okay, Okay, So it
Speaker 7: is the sun upright, y'all?
Speaker 2: Is okay?
Speaker 7: I want to make sure I read this good for
Speaker 7: you night of once. When you start looking for someone,
Speaker 7: they want you to be cautious about how you go
Speaker 7: about finding them. They don't they want you to be optimistic.
Speaker 2: But also.
Speaker 7: If you get a rejection, it's okay. That's kind of
Speaker 7: the vibe when you when you go on dates and
Speaker 7: if you find someone that you really like and they reject,
Speaker 7: you just know that someone better will come through. So
Speaker 7: the Nina pedicles is at the bottom of the deck,
Speaker 7: which also is something that I look into when I
Speaker 7: do readings.
Speaker 4: But so.
Speaker 7: Sorry, King of Pinnacles. So and he's upright. You're looking
Speaker 7: for someone solid, practical and wise, good investor you.
Speaker 2: So look and finance blue eyes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.
Speaker 7: Don't with the niiwans and reverse try to avoid someone
Speaker 7: who is kind of just putting on a show for you. Okay,
Speaker 7: so like like, what's what's his face?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, so no peacocks.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no peacocks exactly. That's a good way to say. Yeah,
Speaker 7: And you might find someone who.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 7: It won't be who you like expect. It might be
Speaker 7: not someone that you expect to like, and that love
Speaker 7: or yeah, that love might just grow from that like
Speaker 7: being unexpected, like coming from left field. So you might
Speaker 7: meet someone they might like you more and you're just
Speaker 7: gonna be like, oh, I don't really, I don't really
Speaker 7: like him, and then like as time goes on, you're
Speaker 7: gonna be like, Okay, he actually fits who I can
Speaker 7: see myself being with.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so be open, be open, stay tuned everybody, and
Speaker 5: no peacocks and no pea cocks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sepka yopica, wow, gristle.
Speaker 3: This was so fun fun, Thank you?
Speaker 6: Yes? Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: It was good?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, good, good yay.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on and chatting with you.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we can have you back on some other time.
Speaker 5: Yes, all right you guys, Bye bye, all right e besties.
Speaker 5: That's it for this episode of the Wine and Wine Podcast.
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