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Speaker 3: When you get nervous, it's for me, it's always the same.

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It's not like I'm really really nervous or nervous. It's

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just I'm nervous, you know, so over a first t

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shot of any round. I mean there's not much, but

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there's a little bit of nerves. It's not I'm nervous

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because I haven't prepared. It's just like I know what

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to do. It's just all right, let's go do what

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we gotta do. But it's not like you're out of

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control nervous where I'm not prepared, because then I already

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know that I'm not going to play well, and I'll

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never feel off in a tournament feels like I don't

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prepare well.

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Speaker 1: You've got that first t jitters. That's understandable, But those

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first t jitters begin when you walk up to the

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first tee, or like when you're in prep for that

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tournament coming up and you're starting to think about it.

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Speaker 3: Well. I never sweat over a first hall shot. There

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may be a feature on the course I don't like,

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and I might think about it like during my round,

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but I might get in there with over a particular

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t shot more than the first key.

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Speaker 1: Playing with the big dogs PGA Tour pro Matt every

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This is Golf Smarter.

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Speaker 4: Each week we tap the best minds in golf to

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Speaker 1: Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to the Golf's Martyr Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Matt, thanks man, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: My pleasure. Thanks so much. I generally don't get a

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chance to talk to PGA touring professionals. This is very

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exciting for me. Frankly, I don't really want to. I'd

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much rather talk to their caddies because I think there's

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probably better stories there. Have you ever caddy for anybody?

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Speaker 3: That I caddied for my buddy's dad launch and a

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qualifier just as a favor, But I wouldn't exactly say

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I've had a full time gig.

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Speaker 1: Do you like having nick? I mean, you know, I

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got to imagine as you grew up and we're playing

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a lot that you you know, you golf, you're on

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your own.

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Speaker 5: So when you have a caddy adjustment?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what do you want out? What do

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you want out of a caddy?

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Speaker 3: Just to not mess me out?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 3: That's all I asked, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, Yeah, of course, I mean they they do play

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a very important role that most guys play their best

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and they stay out of their own way, and you

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just don't want somebody else to get anyway, and you

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know somebody else did.

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Speaker 3: It's just another obstacle.

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Speaker 1: And do you look for I mean, is the caddie

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you've been working with since you've been on the tour?

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Is that a friend? Is that someone's been assigned to you?

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Are you just picked up in the parking lot?

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Speaker 3: It's uh, it's it's a it's a friend. To be honest.

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You know, I meet him, I meet him out on

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the road just you know, accunting for somebody else. I

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develop friendships with him, and then uh, you know, when

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it's time to make a change or I make a change.

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And always I always trying to hire someone that I

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already have a pretty good relationship with. I'm sew a

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stranger and judge your character a little better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you didn't have caddies when you were in college, right, No,

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so that's got to be a big adjustment.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, the biggest the biggest thing for me

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when I got out of school was when I got

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a cadie. I always start second guessing myself. I always always,

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you know, if I had a six footer and I

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knew it was like right, let I would be like,

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hey man, what do you got? And then he'd come

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in and if you said something different, I'll just screwed,

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you know, And it's like, da, Matt, why do you

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even do that? You know, even reading your own puts

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your whole life and you're a good potter, Like there's

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no need for another set of eyes, you know what

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Speaker 6: Oh, that's so interesting, And probably that happens a lot

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with ammers.

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Speaker 3: When they go to these nice courses, they get the

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club caddies, and you know, the club caddies some of

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them do a great job. But like the Vamber, you

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know you can read I mean, you can read greens.

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You know they're easy to read.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to necessarily agree with you that all.

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Speaker 3: The time you should be able to read greens.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you that. I'll well, let's talk. That's

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really interesting And if you have you ever like after

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a round said, look, don't speak unless I a or do.

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Speaker 5: They generally know that.

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Speaker 3: It's always it's always my I mean, no, I'm not

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blaming anybody for any of my batch outs because I'm

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the one that hits him and it annoys me when

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people do do that.

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Speaker 6: But uh no, I'm always nobody specific my fault because

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I'm always.

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Speaker 3: You know, they won't say my guy, I won't say

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say anything if I don't ask him to. You know,

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it's always like they derect what you got here, you know,

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if not, he's not even looking at the pot.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, he's just talking to the other caddy, right. Interesting,

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But you've always kept your own book, You've always kept

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your own score you' you know I don't.

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Speaker 3: Well, well yeah I didn't call it. Yeah I did

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growing up. Yeah, but I don't anymore like I have him.

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I don't have a yardage book. I don't do anything.

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Speaker 1: And what about sport and what about when you're on

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the tour. I want to talk about your history, But

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this is so interesting to me. When you were when

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you were on the tour and you're playing in a

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tournament and even as you were growing up uh competitive,

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how closely did you watch your score throughout a round?

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Because like we talk about this all the time, it's like,

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don't worry about the score until you're done with your round.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's easier said than done. I know what

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you're saying. It's kind of just you just kind of

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get over it. I mean, it just happens. I don't.

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I don't think about like I know where I'm at,

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but I'm not. I'm not judging myself on my score

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as harsh as I did when I was in high

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school or something like that, because I know if I

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just stay patient, everything evens out in the long run.

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And it's not about for me. It's it's a career.

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It's not a round.

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Speaker 1: Of golf.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of how I look at it.

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Speaker 1: A marathon, not a sprint.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so it all evens out your score. One

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thing for me that helped me it was the course

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I grew up playing on was pretty easy. So you know,

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when I got pretty when I was getting pretty good

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in high school, I would go out there and you know,

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before under through six holes, and I learned to keep

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going and keep going because you know, eventually four under

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out there for me on a you know, when the

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weather was good was crap, you know, so I had

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to keep going and keep going and keep going. So

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now when I do have a good round gooing like

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you're saying, and you're thinking about your score, I just

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keep going, you know.

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Speaker 1: M I that's really interesting because you not only your score,

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because golf is really about just doing your best. You're

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not going head to head against anybody. You're playing against yourself. Yeah,

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And so to look up at at a leader board

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and see, oh man, I'm one stroke behind this guy,

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it's got to get in your head. You could start

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pressing and just making bad shots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's hard. I mean, when you're playing well

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on Sunday, it's hard to not look at a leaderboard

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because they're they're in your face all day long. I

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mean you'd have to try not to look at one,

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like and you'd have to do really good. I mean

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they're almost everywhere you look out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you also get a sense of how you're

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doing just by the crowd that's following you. And the

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gallery continues.

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Speaker 3: To grow its not at all because yeah, because well

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think about it. I mean, if Pilm Mickelson or something,

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you know, a tiger or just a big name is

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out there, those guys, the people that are coming to

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that golf tournament are coming to watch them, regardless of

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how they play. You might get a few more crowd members.

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But you know, if it's a big tournament with big names,

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it doesn't matter. They're getting the crowds, which is totally

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fun with me.

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Speaker 1: You don't you don't want the gallery watching you?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's no, I don't mind. I mean you can't.

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You're gonna have galleries out there no matter what, because

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like I'm you know, fifteen through eighteen is like it's

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a party out there, and uh, people are just there.

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But oh mind the galleries. It's just I don't want

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it it's just something else to deal with, you know,

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it's not it's not a big deal, but it's there,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: And and when you first started on the tour, and

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I'm not like you hadn't been playing competitively your whole

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life for years on in college and other tours and stuff.

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with an elite group of golfers. Did you feel your

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knees knocking at all? Or you were like, dude, I'm here,

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I belong here.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you get nervous, it's for me, it's

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always the same. It's not like I'm really really nervous

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or nervous. It's just I'm nervous, you know. So like

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over a first t shot of any round, there's not

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I mean there's not much, but there's a little bit

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of nerves. It's not like it's not I'm nervous because

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I haven't prepared. It's just like I know what to do.

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It's just all right, let's let's you know, let's go

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do what we gotta do. You know what I'm saying.

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But it's not like a nerve out of control nervous

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where I'm not prepared, because then it's then I already

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know that I'm not gonna play well and I'll never

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pee off in the tournament feeling like I doesn't prepare well.

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Speaker 1: You've got that first t jitters. That's understandable. But those

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first t jitters begin when you walk up to the

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first t or like when you're in prep for that

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tournament coming up and you're starting to think about it.

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Speaker 3: No, no, it's not no never never, Like I would never,

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I never sweat over a first hall shot. There may

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be a shot on the court, shot on the course

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I don't like, and I might think about it like

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during my round. But you can't help that, man. I

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mean anybody who says I can block that outline, I

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just don't see it happening. And uh, it's just the

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way it is, you know, I mean, the thing your head,

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it's just the way it is. But you just to

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deal with it and make a committed swing on that whole.

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But I might get nervous over a particular T shot

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more than the first T for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's all about the shot right now, and you can

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block it.

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Speaker 3: Like if it's the first team. There's there's not much

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and there's nothing to be nervous about it because I

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know how to do it, you know, I mean, just

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this swing where you know how to and the results

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will take care of itself.

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Speaker 1: So interesting. I'm just so, you know, so divorced from

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from that level of competition, you know, just being a

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recreational golfer and I don't even play competitively on that level.

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Speaker 5: I just.

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Speaker 1: This. It's just a different beast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one chip. I would say on those shots that

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the course before, I'm like, thirteen is a you know,

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it's antagrag left of water on the left and the

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winds off and the winds off the left. You gotta

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start over the water or something. Just a shot and

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that's hard, you know, Yeah, and you're thinking about it

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when I when I get over them, I can live

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with myself if I make a committed swing and it's

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a bad shot. But if I do something at the

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bottom of my swing, like you know, Dcell or just

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kind of guy or something like that, and I'm and

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it as a bad shot, That's when I really get

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upset it myself. But you can you can live I

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can live with it if it's committed. So the committed

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ones usually always turn out better. And you know what

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I'm saying, it's just you feel better about yourself. You

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can go to sleep at night knowing you you committed

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instead of bailing out or you know, not giving it

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a good swing.

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Speaker 1: Define for me from your perspective, of course, what is

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a hard shot? Like you said, when you get on

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a hard shot and you think it's like, what is

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a hard shot for you?

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's also you know, it's very situational. It

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could be only on a Sunday and any anytime you

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have to work the ball, like if the pin is

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on the left side of the green and the wind

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is coming off the left, or you have to start

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it over the trouble to get it on the pin

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or turn it against the wind and you have to

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you know, alter your swinging a little bit for the

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cork ballflight. Those are tough shots. But if there is

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no wins and it's a tuck pen, if you're swinging

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good at it, there's there's I mean, it's green light

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all day, you know, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like the old Johnny Miller green right, green light,

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yellow light, red light on how you approach a shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, and let's talk a little bit. This is

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so interesting to me a little bit about your history

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so we can give some people on understanding you. You've

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been in the tour. Now, twenty ten was your rookie season.

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Speaker 5: Right, yep?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where you were named Rookie of the year. That's

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kind of awesome. Congratulations. But let's back up a little

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bit more.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I was of a rookie.

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Speaker 5: Of the year.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you better tell your publicists because the

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bio they said has you as a Rookie of the

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Year on the PGA Tour in twenty ten. Yeah, or

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did they just forget to tell you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I forgot to tell me.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Matt, you're a rookie of the year

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a couple of years ago. It's great. Did you do

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you know that you in two thousand and nine that

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you won a nationwide tour event. Do you know that?

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I just want to make sure I'm talking to Matt

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every year. Well, let's go back a little bit and

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talk about your college ball, because I find this so

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interesting because college golf, in some ways, the competition just

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to be on a team is so tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. I had you know, my senior year

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in high school, I had a few offers to go

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play some some pretty good schools and then but I

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wanted to go to Florida. They had a great team,

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and I knew, and they weren't giving me any money

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at the time, and I knew that if I could

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just get there and play against the best guy as

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in the country, you know, let alone. I didn't want

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to go somewhere and be the best guy on a

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team and have no compete with every day. So I

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went there and it worked out great.

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Speaker 1: Let's make sure that we clarify this so it's not

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taken out of context by any other media organization or reporter.

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When you said I didn't get money for that, you

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don't get money in college, but you we don't want

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to have any school disqualified and taken out of But

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you meant scholarship money. Yeah, okay, so you did get

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Did you get scholarship money? Talk to me about So

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you were recruited by a couple of schools, and but

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you had your your site set on University of Florida, right,

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You're you're from Florida. Uh, and and then and then

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you chose to go there. But you didn't. You didn't

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get scholarship money to go there? Right? And and how

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did it work for you? That?

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Speaker 5: Did?

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Speaker 1: You? Were you invited to be on the team. How

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did that work for you? Tell me about how you

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got to be on the tab.

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Speaker 3: So I was being slightly recruited by Florida and U,

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but I wasn't the best guy coming out. So they

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had like three guys that they were trying to sign

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before me, and if one of them didn't sign, then

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they would have, you know, something for me on sid

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on the team. Well they all they all three signed,

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so I still wanted to go there though, So I

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was like, man, can I come? And He's like, yeah,

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I'll give you a shot. You know it should come. So

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it just worked out. And then you know, my whole

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freshman year, five guys travel. There's probably like eleven or

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twelve on the team, and I was like the sixth

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guy all year and occasionally cracked the lineup. And right

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before postseason, the five guys on our team got in

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the shanks and coach put me in and it's kind

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of done good ever since then.

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Speaker 1: That's so impressive. So then you walked on the team.

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You you had one guy fall off the bench, fall

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off this game, and you got called up on the

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off the bench and and had success. Yeah. How how

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is the coaching on that college level? What did that

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do for your game that allowed you to become a

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four time All American, a three time All SEC Conference selection?

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Speaker 5: Did it?

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Speaker 1: Is it just hard work on your golf game or

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great coaching and hard work?

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're not working on the right things, then

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you're you're wasting your time. So coaching first and foremost

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probably uh is more important than hard work because you

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have to have proper coaching then you can put in

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the hard work. But yeah, I mean it was just

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going there competing every day. I mean we would you know,

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we a lot of the guys on the team. I

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mean it was very competitive because you know, it was

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a big deal. You went to college for golf and

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you want to play man in the in the top

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five and I got you know, we were all friends,

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but on the course, we all wanted to whip each other.

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And then when I got pretty good, Uh, Camillo Virginicas

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was in school at me at the same time, and

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we would just duke it out. In my last two

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years and there for his last two years there. We

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would duke it out for uh the number one spot

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every week, and we wanted to beat each other's brains.

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And I probably have to credit a lot, you know,

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going going against him to where I am now.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting. So I ask about, you know, hard

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work and good coaching, but I didn't talk about level.

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I didn't ask about level of competition and what that

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does for your game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh yeah, man, I mean you see it. The

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football guys play down to the level of their competition

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all the time.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I see it in golf, just in myself. I just

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you played the level of And again I'm not a

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I'm not a competing kind of guy. I don't play

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in tournaments and st off. But just your focome, your

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your buddy that you're out there with. You just want to,

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you know, beat them by a stroke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh yeah. Like if I go to play with

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my my friends at home, they're all pretty good, but

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ill we'll play as good as I should, you know,

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because I'm with them, and it's just not it's not

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the same.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and I'm sure they want to beat your brains.

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Speaker 3: In Yeah, I mean some some things that I play

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in I definitely have people that try to. But which

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is funny to me. But my friends don't care. You know,

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they've they've probably they've been before, and if they beat me,

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it's not like they're gonna it's not gonna make their

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weak you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I not. No, they don't bring it up on

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the phone. It's like, hey, I beat you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man, By the way, I know you weren't keeping school today,

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but I totally beat you.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's great.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: Uh. The very impressive part of your senior year, I

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guess it was at Florida, was that you won the

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equivalent of the Golf Heisman Trophy Award, the Ben Hogan Award,

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in two thousand and six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was, Uh, it was pretty cool to win.

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Speaker 1: What does that take? How do you how do you

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get to a position where you stand out among its

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nation of golfers.

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Speaker 3: It's given to the best amateur golfer of that year,

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and it usually go to college guys just because if

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you're a really good anmler, usually a college player, and

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so it's like the college player of the year, and

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it's just you know, they have a panel that flects

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it's my twelve people and it's former coaches, writers, former

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winners of the award and whoever gets some much volts

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wins and I won. Uh you know, it was two

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thousand and six, and might have been it was either

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five or six. I had a good, good an year

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the year qualified for new helping and finished in the

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twenty somewhere and then that's a good year, a very

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good year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But it now it's it's like every round of golf,

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it's history and you can't do anything about it.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I got to move forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. And it's been a long time

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since then too. I mean it feels like yesterday, but uh,

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you know, six or seven years, it's a long time.

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Speaker 1: Well, especially when you get married, have a kid. You're

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still pretty.

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Speaker 7: You're not even thirty, right, almost twenty nine in a

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couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean life is really going fast for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it's it's real fast. But I like,

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I like it.

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Speaker 1: But you you're able to slow it down for a

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round of golf. Is that is that difficult to separate?

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Speaker 3: It does? Man, it slows me down. I feel like

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the better I play it of the more you know,

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in the moment, I am like I'm swelling myself down

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because I swing fast, I walk fast, I might talk fast.

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I don't know, but it to me and golf kind

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of it knows me out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Are Are there any things, any tips, any advice that

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you can provide us on how to do that?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I mean as far as like overall rhythm

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in your golf. Like I think the number one thing

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in a golf swing is rhythm, and you can you

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can swing fast and have good rhythm. Just you know,

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swing within yourself, take your time, be committed through the shot,

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just really focus on your rhythm, and uh, your swing

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will get better just from there because the parts where

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you have to speed up, if you focus on your rhythm,

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you're going to get in the right spots if you're

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if you're quick and snatchy at the top, that's when

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the trouble starts.

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Speaker 1: I find that when I'm screwing up, when things are

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falling apart, everything starts to speed up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it probably does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks coach, Yeah it does. You suck go away,

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you know. Uh. The reason we got together is, uh

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there's this product that that is now out uh by

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on it Labs called Alpha Brain, and they sent me

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some samples, and they also said, you know what, if

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you don't believe us that this stuff is going to

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help your golf game, then you maybe you should talk

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to Matt every please help me out with this and

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explain to me what Alpha Brain is and what it

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does for your game.

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Speaker 3: Sure, well, they make other stuff too, but I mainly

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00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,359
take Alpha Brain right now. I met up with the

477
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,680
guys that on it in January. Well, I got some

478
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,519
product from them in January. I met a mountain, San

479
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:54,599
Antonio this year. They were out there for the tour events,

480
00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:56,400
so we got to meet up. But I always started

481
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,200
taking their product in January. And the mental I think

482
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,720
I suffer a little bit from add as well, and

483
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,240
like I get very very bored out there, and if

484
00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:09,599
it's not going my way by about fourteen, it's not

485
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,960
like I quit, but I mean it's just, you know,

486
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,799
I get a little disinterested, disinterested, And ever since I

487
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,359
started taking this out of brain. I'm telling you, man,

488
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,960
I'm in it the whole way. And it says to

489
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,880
take four a day. I take like six every day,

490
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,279
but I take two in the morning. I take them

491
00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:32,480
with all my meals, or two in the morning. Two

492
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,960
usually on the turn and then to a bed when

493
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,920
I go to bed, and it's legit. And they got

494
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,839
this new him protein out too, and I don't know

495
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:44,160
if you've ever sided him protein, but it's usually pretty

496
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,519
nasty and this one is very bearable and stable. So

497
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,359
I'm pretty excited about that too.

498
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: That's awesome and I hope we can talk more about

499
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,759
this now. This is not a drug no, because you cannot.

500
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,720
You know, on the PGA tour you would not be

501
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,160
allowed to take any performance enhands right right, like.

502
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:12,799
Speaker 3: You know, say adderall that is on the list for Yeah,

503
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,079
this is not. And I'm telling you I used to

504
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:19,559
take adderall because I had Uh I did you know

505
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:23,359
I was diagnosed for a d D And uh, it's

506
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:27,519
it's not. You're not as wired, but you're definitely in there,

507
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:29,839
like when you're taking adderall and it's awesome. And I've

508
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,000
had guys come up to me on the range that

509
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,160
had no clue that I was with on it and say, man,

510
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,160
you take that Hones stuff. That's that's pretty good. And

511
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,480
they always take the same one I take, and uh,

512
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:46,480
alphabe right Alpha brain and because they listened to Joe

513
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,960
Rogan podcast and apparently he's been taking it too and

514
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,759
loving it. So that's where they're all hearing it from too.

515
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,279
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you talk about being someone who

516
00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:01,680
is diagnosed with add and then make it to the

517
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:09,000
PGA tour. I can imagine that your brain your rhythm,

518
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,279
and you talk about the most important thing being rhythm.

519
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,480
Your rhythm is probably very fast. Now I know. I

520
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:16,759
know that, uh you know, I mean it just I

521
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:19,519
know that type of person. I am that type of person.

522
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:21,839
My child is that type of person.

523
00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:25,839
Speaker 3: So if we eat and it's a fifteen minute way,

524
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,599
I'm not waiting.

525
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,599
Speaker 1: You're out.

526
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah every time.

527
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah No. My kid was like in restaurants growing up,

528
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:35,920
It's like why do I have to wait? He loved this?

529
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,319
What was it not the Sizzler one of those restaurants.

530
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:41,240
It was just like a whole bar. You just is

531
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,200
like a salad.

532
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 5: Bartager you're talking about.

533
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was like feed me. Now, why am

534
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,960
I waiting at home? I don't have to wait. You

535
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,200
call me in, I sit down.

536
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 5: We eat.

537
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: So just being able to create a rhythm for yourself.

538
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,039
I know this is a a natural product, right, yeah,

539
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:04,799
tell natural Keep keep talking about because I'm really fascinated

540
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,160
by this stuff. And we're going to be talking about

541
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,759
Alpha brain for for a number of episodes now. And

542
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:15,440
and uh, I have tried it and I found it fascinating.

543
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,960
I also had a buddy that I'm uh will get

544
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,519
to meet in a couple of episodes who's tried it

545
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,079
and has been blown away by it.

546
00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:24,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they get got a lot of poker players to

547
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:28,359
take it really, you know. Yeah, it's not a it's

548
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,359
not a uh you know, it's not a narcotic, and

549
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,599
it's it doesn't give you the same feel as like

550
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,480
an adderall but it I'm telling you that it does.

551
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,200
It does the same things like I feel, I feel

552
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,440
great on it. I mean it's so it's so clear

553
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:49,039
and so crisp, and uh, it's just there all the time.

554
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:51,160
And and fee you know, your body feeling good and

555
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,200
your mind feeling good is huge, man. I mean, if

556
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,720
you're not feeling good about yourself and your your brain

557
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:59,079
isn't there, it's uh, it's not you know, some something

558
00:27:59,079 --> 00:27:59,799
else you have to deal with.

559
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,279
Speaker 1: Incredible. But and and you're using it more than just

560
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,519
for golf. You said you take it before you go

561
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:09,960
to sleep.

562
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: I take it before I go to sleep. Just to

563
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,839
get into my system. But my uh, you know, here's

564
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,079
another story. I had a caddy uh, one of my buddies.

565
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:22,240
He's actually a caddie out Alan tour. His brother is

566
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,720
a construction worker in Jacksonville, which is where I live,

567
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,680
and he saw the on it on my bag, and

568
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,079
his brother went online to order some pillows. Uh, and

569
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,359
you know said, hey see, you know Matt everie's an

570
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,960
onnitor together and he's he's like wanting me to get

571
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,119
the bills now because he swears by it. I mean

572
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,200
he said, he's a uh, he's an architect for a

573
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,039
construction construction company here and he's all about the alpha brain.

574
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,839
I mean all about it.

575
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,599
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

576
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: So interesting now it's it's some of the material that

577
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,240
they gave me. It talks about how it's an anti

578
00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:02,480
stress herb to help you stay and focused, and that

579
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,680
just to me screams out for a golfer, it does. Yeah.

580
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,400
Another note that boost neurotransmitter is an optimal balance to

581
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,200
keep you energized. But there's no stimulants in it, right

582
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:19,039
and well yeah, I mean for someone with who has

583
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:23,160
an attention issue, I would think that stimulants is not

584
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:26,200
a good idea. Are you a coffee drinker?

585
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,319
Speaker 3: Drink coffee?

586
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 5: Really? So?

587
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then you know you don't need stimulants. I

588
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,000
probably try to shy away from SODA's with lots of

589
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:43,400
sugar and caffeine in them too. Yeah, well I know

590
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:48,720
that that. I honestly have tried it once since I

591
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,240
since I was asked to give it a shot for golf.

592
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:52,880
And the thing that I.

593
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:54,759
Speaker 3: Thought, you got to take it, you got to take it.

594
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,960
I think you got to take it a couple of

595
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,319
weeks to get the true effects.

596
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: Okay, good, because you know, like I had to received

597
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,480
it and I had a scheduled around just the next day,

598
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:10,839
so they said, you know, take take two before year round,

599
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,720
about a half hour before you around, while you're warming up,

600
00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:15,920
and then take one at the turn. And the thing

601
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,599
that I found so interesting about it was there the

602
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,720
lack of noise in my head. And I don't mean noise,

603
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,799
I mean just voices, and over every shot it was

604
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,680
so much quieter.

605
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,799
Speaker 3: I mean that totally makes sense too, because when I'm

606
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:35,559
trying to go to bed at night and it's it's

607
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:38,440
so easy. I mean it's just like I am blank

608
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,319
and I'm and I can fall asleep right now, and

609
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:43,440
it's not like, you know, it's once you lay down,

610
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,759
you're so you're so at ease. It's like, let's go.

611
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,799
Speaker 1: I have good dreams and some of the things they

612
00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:53,240
talk about in the literature, and I'll go over this

613
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,799
as we continue to talk about the product. But uh,

614
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,559
it for helping dream state. Have you experienced that as well?

615
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: I mean I definitely had some weird dreams. The dreams.

616
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, I just want to let everybody know. Actually,

617
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:17,519
I have so many more questions. Do you mind if

618
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,839
you stick around, we can do another episode for Golf

619
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:23,480
Smarter for members only. No, oh, thank you. I think

620
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,319
that would be awesome because I really want to talk

621
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,119
more about the tour, how you got there, what it's

622
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,400
like on the tour, and also I'd like to talk

623
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,319
to you about specific clubs that you use, how you

624
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,200
use them. You know, what would you do if you

625
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:39,200
had one more birdie per round? How would you know?

626
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,000
Where would you put it? Things like that. Matt, thanks

627
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,960
so much for hanging out.

628
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,119
Speaker 3: But got it.

629
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,359
Speaker 1: Well, we go from a PGA tour player to a

630
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,559
guy who should be getting his clubs, his scoring clubs

631
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:09,119
in the hands of this PGA Tour player Terry Taylor,

632
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,799
the wedge Guy. Hey Terry, how are you?

633
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Speaker 5: I'm great for it?

634
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,559
Speaker 1: How I'm doing fine? Thank you again for providing the

635
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:18,440
score Zone Short Game Academy. And as a brief rundown

636
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646
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648
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Cook in Branford, Our Ontario, Canada, and he says, Terry,

649
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,680
help me. I lose three to eight shots around on

650
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:11,799
bad chips and we're not talking about tortilla chips how

651
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,880
And what's the best set up the stance and ball

652
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,359
position for the short chip shot around the green. Also

653
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,440
help me what drills can I do to improve better

654
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,240
ball contact?

655
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:28,039
Speaker 7: Wind chipping, well, chad chipping is an art farm and

656
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,200
it really is the shortest stroke and it ought to

657
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:32,720
be easier. But you're having trouble. So let's go go

658
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:35,720
to the basics and start with what you said with

659
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,279
set up and stance ball position. So let's start with

660
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,319
when you set up over a chip shot, you've got

661
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:44,559
a mid to lower loft golf club in your hand.

662
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:46,680
You've got a nine iron and eight ron, maybe a

663
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,440
seven up to a pitching wedge. If you're hitting chips,

664
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,240
you want the ball to carry just enough to get

665
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,119
on the green, and you want it to roll. Think

666
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,880
of your chip shot. It's kind of a long, flowing

667
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,960
cutting stroke, so it's very relaxed. Your grip is light

668
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,759
on the club. When you get set up, your ball

669
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:07,039
position should be back toward the middle of your stan.

670
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,760
Your weight should be leaned a little bit over to

671
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,599
your left side, so you're about sixty five seventy percent

672
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:15,599
of your weight on your left side the balance on

673
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,559
your right, so you're leaned into the shot.

674
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 5: A little bit.

675
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,119
Speaker 7: And the best way to really determine exact ball position

676
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,679
is to step a back away from the ball, get

677
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,840
in this comfortable posture, but you really want to be

678
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,000
I'm going to go stay with posture minute here because

679
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:34,320
you want to be in a mini golf swing posture.

680
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,880
You want your back pretty straight. You want to be

681
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,840
bending over from the hips, not from the waist, so

682
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,840
that your shoulders can rotate. And the chipping stroke is

683
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,039
primarily like most golf swings, but particularly you're putting, it's

684
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:49,440
nominated by your left side.

685
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 5: And just think about pushing the.

686
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 7: Club back with your left side and then pulling the

687
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:56,480
club back through with your left side, and think of

688
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:58,960
like a grandfather clock. Think of that kind of rhythm.

689
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:02,480
It's just a very smooth rhythmic back and through, almost

690
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,719
a lazy kind of action. Don't worry about this old

691
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,719
accelerate through the ball and those kind of things you've heard.

692
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,480
But to get your ball position just right, what you

693
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:13,920
want to do is you want to step away from

694
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,840
your ball, make some practice strokes and see where your

695
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,320
club is clipping the grass, and then right where it's

696
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,280
starting to clip the grass, that's the position in your

697
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,960
stance that you should.

698
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:26,159
Speaker 5: Play the ball.

699
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 7: So you always make crisp contact ball first and not

700
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:35,360
catching the grass before the ball. Some keys don't try

701
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,360
to help the ball in the air. This is a

702
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,159
shot that the club is going to loft it a

703
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,400
little bit, and you want the ball to run on out.

704
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,199
Speaker 5: Don't get quick with it.

705
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,079
Speaker 7: Let yourself have a long enough backswing to have a

706
00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:50,599
flowing rhythm to a tempo. It is a little golf swing,

707
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,199
and you can make that golf swing very slow, and

708
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:56,920
you don't want to get jabby. And the way to

709
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,719
do that is to relax your right hand on the grip.

710
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,880
You old the club really back and through with your

711
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:02,800
left side.

712
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,039
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I thought was so

713
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:11,239
interesting what you mentioned is is on the left hand

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of pulling the club through. I know you know, and

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I only can speak from experience of myself because I'm

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not an instructor. I don't try to give lessons, but

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I do watch other people. But there's a lot of

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pushing going on and trying to lift the ball, and

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I know that for me, I'll chunk the ball a

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lot in that situation, or I'll scull it and it'll

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just explode across the green.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's a very common problem. We get a

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little nervous, we get a little yippy, as I call it,

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with chip shots, because we're thinking about I've got this

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club base, I've got to put it on that ball,

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and you're going to trust your eye hand coordination for

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right handed player with your lower hand. But what you

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want to do is develop a little swing and we

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go back to this pulling action. If you think of

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the golf swing on a chip shot, is a three

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link chain. So one link of the chain is the club.

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It's fixed, it can't move correct, but then it hinges

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at your wrists. The next link of the chain is

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your forearm, because there is a hinge at the elbow,

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so that is a there's a hinging point at the elbow.

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There's another hinging point at the shoulder. So if you

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think about a chain, the only way to move a

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chain is.

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Speaker 5: To pull one.

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Speaker 7: You can't push a chain, particularly, you can't push a

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chain from the middle. So if you're trying to move

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this chain by pushing on the grip with your right hand,

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you're going to break that chain down inconsistently.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is kind of a visual. I hope

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y'all are getting this.

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Speaker 7: But if you think about that at the top of

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the chain is your left shoulder, and all the links

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below will follow. Wherever your left shoulder goes, that chain

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is going to follow the same way every time. Just

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if you pull a chain, it's going to stretch out

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behind you every single time. So if you think about

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that left shoulder and that left upper arm, that being

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your lead and and the upper arm goes through and

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that pulls everything else through. Another really good swing thought

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here is that the back of your left hand and

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the face of the golf club are going.

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Speaker 5: To do exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 7: So if you think about just making your left hand

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go back and through, then the club has to go

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back and through the same way because it's not going

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to flex, it's not going to move. So if you

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think about focusing your moving your focus of attention from

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the from the club face back up to the back

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of your left hand, say, I want to take the

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back of my left hand. I want to get in

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a good comfortable posture, and I want the back of

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the left hand to go back, and I want the

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back of the left hand to go through without these

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risks hinging a lot. And if the back of the

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left hand goes to the same spot and then the

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clubhead has to go to the same spot.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, my microphone was off. I was talking and nobody

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was there. So it's so interesting because you know, you

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talk about the grip, you talk about, you know, your

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rhythm and stuff, and a little shameless plug here, but

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if you are a golf smarter member, go back and

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listen to tour Tempo conversation and he talked about, you know,

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the normal swing is a three to one ratio, but

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on your short shot, he talked about a one to

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one ratio and backswing to four, you know, to forward swing.

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And I found that's really worked. It's also helped me

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relax my grip a lot. And I think that is

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a big part of it is the tension that because

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we're so concerned that we're going to screw this shot up,

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that there's so much tension in our hands and our

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wrists and our shoulders that that just leads to bad shots.

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Speaker 7: Well, tension is a killer in the golf, yea in

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golf at all, but the closer you get to the green,

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it's even a bigger killer. And I like what you're

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talking about. The tempo thing. One of the best illustrations

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I've ever seen. To give you a feel for your

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swing tempo is to take one of your clubs and

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hold it out in front of you with your right

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hand out over the ball with the grip, you know,

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just pinched between your thumb and forefinger, and get that

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club swinging back and forth like a pendulum of a

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Grandfather clock. And just let it swing back and forth

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just by holding it up here at the top of

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the grip with your thumb and finger. And that rhythm

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of the club just naturally going back and through is

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pretty close to a perfect putting and chipping rhythm. It's

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very gradual. It's an accelerating rhythm, but it's not grossly accelerating,

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and it's not a hit. It's just this back and through.

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And one of the best visuals I can give you

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is it's that pendulum on the bottom of a Grandfather

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clock and it just goes back and forth and back

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and forth. And what's really good for chipping is to

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is to mimic that back and forth tempo of the

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club just free swinging out there.

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Speaker 1: We only have a minute left, but let me ask

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you one more thing about this, and that is so

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many people talk about your stance in this situation where

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it's a normal and some people say, make an open stance,

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open up your left you know, open up your body

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to your target line. What's your feeling about that.

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Speaker 7: I don't think you want to open your body to

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the target line. I think you want to pull your

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left foot back from the target line. It just lets

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you clear your knees, because you want a little bit

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of knee movement in this You want a little flexing

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though everything is moving toward the whole. But I'm not

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big about opening your body because now you're going to

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strike the ball with a glancing blow.

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Speaker 5: So I think you want.

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Speaker 7: Your shoulder square and your hip square, but just pull

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that left foot back an inch or two, just so

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that you can clear it a little bit and swing

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through the ball a little better. I don't like glancing

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blows on golf shots until you become a highly skilled

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shot maker around the green. I think you want to

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hit it square, flush all the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, Chad Cook of Branford, Ontario, Canada, I hope that

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answers your question because it answered a couple more for me. Terry,

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thanks so much, and we'll talk to you in a

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couple episodes.

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Speaker 5: I look forward to it. Thank you Fred,