Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Rose Pricks. This is a
Speaker 1: two parter, and this is part two of our episode
Speaker 1: of Real Housewives of Orange County. So if you're just
Speaker 1: going to your latest episode, just know that right before
Speaker 1: this one is part one, and you'd be doing yourself
Speaker 1: a humongous disservice by only listening to part two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense to you or any anybody.
Speaker 2: And Gina would be mad. I don't want so mad.
Speaker 2: She's so mad, and I just I love Travis and
Speaker 2: I just love him, and I just am so happy
Speaker 2: that you're in my life, Trappis. And I don't I
Speaker 2: like that you die your beard. It's okay that you
Speaker 2: die your beard black. The kids love it. You're ex lady,
Speaker 2: which we're going to get to. We're gonna get to
Speaker 2: the ex conversation. But at this point, Gina starts in
Speaker 2: on Tama. She starts to have a conversation with Tama.
Speaker 2: That's where we left off. Yeah, and she wants to
Speaker 2: have me with her. Huh. She's mad, and she's like
Speaker 2: rightfully says to Tamba, like you make everybody else collateral damage. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she does, because Tama is always trying to stirs it up.
Speaker 2: She does not give a fuck about any of these people.
Speaker 2: Does she even have friends? She always has friends that rotate,
Speaker 2: which tells you something about her, because you know she's
Speaker 2: she If she hates somebody, then she loves somebody else,
Speaker 2: because that's how she works, right right. She sucks.
Speaker 1: So Ga kind of apologizes. Yeah, yeah, Tamara just like
Speaker 1: tries to own it. But it's it's kind of empty. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's completely empty. But I don't think it's any more
Speaker 1: empty than Shannon.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even remember that I did that. I Oh,
Speaker 1: I guess I did it. I didn't remember. If I remembered,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done it. I would have told you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Tamra's like, yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker 2: It's okay. I think I understand. I think I know
Speaker 2: the difference between Tamara and Shannon the Okay. Shannon has
Speaker 2: been bitchy and terrible to people in the past. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying she's not awful, especially awful, but not as bad. Yes,
Speaker 2: that thing with Gina was just bizarre, and I don't
Speaker 2: I can't, I cannot. I don't know what to even
Speaker 2: say about it because it was so awful. But Tamar
Speaker 2: is constantly saying the worst thing in your face to
Speaker 2: a person that you could say, she finds like the darkest,
Speaker 2: most vulnerable thing, and she says it constantly. She's just
Speaker 2: a sociopath. Shannon has the moments, but she's on app
Speaker 2: like usually not that bad. And I think that's the difference.
Speaker 2: That's why she's more like you could forgive her easier
Speaker 2: than Tamara, like I would never. Tamra's just she's just like,
Speaker 2: really mean.
Speaker 1: I think that the thing that's going on with Shannon
Speaker 1: is the but she doesn't like and I'm not sticking
Speaker 1: up for her this. Yes, she's bad and the whole
Speaker 1: screaming you're an alcoholic is terrible. I agree, But she
Speaker 1: also feels that Shannon is lying to everybody. But the
Speaker 1: thing is that nobody cares. Nobody cares whether Shannon's drinking
Speaker 1: or not. Everybody feels like, well, it's none of our business,
Speaker 1: Like we all drink, nobody's judging except for Tamra. But
Speaker 1: Tamar's thing is like, but she says she doesn't drink,
Speaker 1: and she does. And she said she didn't drink because
Speaker 1: we're going to see it was teased for the reunion yeah,
Speaker 1: she said that Shannon was claiming that she was in
Speaker 1: this program, but then the story kind of changed and
Speaker 1: Shannon was like, well, it wasn't really a not drinking program.
Speaker 1: It was just from my mental health, but we weren't
Speaker 1: supposed to drink. And then I think that Tamara has
Speaker 1: seen shannon sneaky drinking and it pisses her off for
Speaker 1: whatever reason.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's.
Speaker 1: Right, and I don't think it's none, but she can't
Speaker 1: seem to get over the fact that this stuff is
Speaker 1: none of her business. And then she's coming off as
Speaker 1: I do, hypercrits. She's a total hypocrite.
Speaker 2: So she's got just as bad of a drinking she
Speaker 2: just didn't get behind the wheel. I mean, it's horrible
Speaker 2: what Shannon said. They both have issues there, so many
Speaker 2: of them have drinking issues. It's like unbelievable in one
Speaker 2: cast right at this point, and so it's like, shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up.
Speaker 1: But also Shannon has been I don't understand how everybody's like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, poor Shannon when Shannon's been horrific to
Speaker 1: g and Gina's like, well, she's working on herself, okay,
Speaker 1: So it's okay that when you had your drunk driving things.
Speaker 1: She went off on you and implied that you're going to.
Speaker 2: Hold your child protect I mean she she made it
Speaker 2: so that CPS got involved or something. I don't understand how.
Speaker 2: Gina's just like, well, but Shannon's working on herself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know how she forgave that. Now, remember though, look,
Speaker 2: because see I'm in a position where I don't like
Speaker 2: Shannon either, so I'm not trying to like make you
Speaker 2: like her. However, Shannon at the time, let's just put
Speaker 2: herself and she's trying to deflect off of her drinking issues,
Speaker 2: which she's probably had for a really long time. So
Speaker 2: now Gina is driving drunk, and so Shannon, who has
Speaker 2: not been caught I guess at that point yet doing that,
Speaker 2: She's going to be like, oh see, look look here,
Speaker 2: look this lady that way. I mean, it's disgusting what
Speaker 2: she did. I could never forgive it if I was Gina,
Speaker 2: But like, do you see what I'm saying, Like where
Speaker 2: she was coming from, She's like, well, Gina is doing
Speaker 2: some questionable things and she needs to be checked. And
Speaker 2: it actually kind of saved Genie. It could have saved
Speaker 2: Gina's life because now she knows better. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've been I, you know, long before I quit drinking,
Speaker 1: even when I well, actually I guess I had already
Speaker 1: quit drinking. But I dealt with people that, you know,
Speaker 1: I think, drove drunk with their kids in the car.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, I didn't call CPS on them, right, it's
Speaker 1: really weird.
Speaker 2: I was talking I met this. I was at a
Speaker 2: party last week and there was this guy there from
Speaker 2: Germany and he was saying, he was like, you know,
Speaker 2: the thing that amazes me most about this country, being America,
Speaker 2: the United States, is that he's like, I can't believe
Speaker 2: how much people drive drunk. He's like, especially before ubers,
Speaker 2: you know, like especially like fifteen years ago or whatever.
Speaker 2: But he's like, it's shocking to me. He was talking
Speaker 2: about Texas and specifically because he'd been there, and he's like,
Speaker 2: it's shocking. They get these big pickup trucks and they
Speaker 2: do it all the time. Yep, even now like with
Speaker 2: and I say that with No, he wasn't even being judgmental,
Speaker 2: but he's like, it's just so weird. We would just
Speaker 2: never do that there. Do you think it's because they
Speaker 2: have public transportation. I mean, I guess I'm sure there
Speaker 2: are people that still do that and you and I've
Speaker 2: talked about this on the show too, Like back in
Speaker 2: the day, I've made some choices in my twenties, like
Speaker 2: leaving the imbrov. There were definitely times I shouldn't have
Speaker 2: been driving. Oh I drove drunk all the time, but
Speaker 2: it was what were we going to do? The bus?
Speaker 1: And you if you think you're fine, going to be like,
Speaker 1: I'm too drunk, I have to take a cab. You
Speaker 1: just freaking get in your car unless somebody can give
Speaker 1: you a ride. Also, and this is not me making
Speaker 1: excuses like I'm horrified I too at the time that
Speaker 1: I drove drunk. I'm just saying it's it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have been grouped right along with German guys.
Speaker 1: Judgment like yeah, oh yeah, and that's your thing.
Speaker 2: He wasn't even he was just like shocked by He's like,
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't understand. It's so weird to me.
Speaker 2: It's so weird to us in like Europe that you
Speaker 2: guys do this, because yeah, they do have better they
Speaker 2: have subways, Like you know, we didn't even have what
Speaker 2: subway goes to the improv. We didn't have uber no,
Speaker 2: and we were dummies. Yes, we're like just so stupid
Speaker 2: and I yeah, so like any of us could have
Speaker 2: been any of these ladies. The Shannon got to a
Speaker 2: place that was beyond and she needs help and she
Speaker 2: obviously she shouldn't be dry. The thing that still pisses
Speaker 2: me off from episode one is she was given and
Speaker 2: they were like, why don't you just uber for six months? Right,
Speaker 2: just not drive for a while and just like get
Speaker 2: your shit together. But she refuses, and that's on her,
Speaker 2: and so she is putting people at risk. Well that
Speaker 2: angers me.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing that I find difficult to watch
Speaker 1: with her is she is very much in denial of everything,
Speaker 1: and everybody who's saying like, oh, but she's working on herself,
Speaker 1: and how she's always claiming, but I'm working on myself.
Speaker 1: I've yet to see the work that she's putting in.
Speaker 1: To me, it just seems like constant denial and that's it.
Speaker 1: That is what I think bugs me. And maybe obviously
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge bitch like Tamera, but I could
Speaker 1: see that that would annoy me if it was somebody
Speaker 1: in my group of friends. That everybody was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, she works so hard on herself, and if
Speaker 1: I was, like, but really right, because all I ever
Speaker 1: see is her deflecting and calling everybody else liars and
Speaker 1: saying I didn't do it, I didn't and you know,
Speaker 1: and with the I mean like I don't want to
Speaker 1: bring it up again.
Speaker 2: But you know, also with the John Chance.
Speaker 1: And thing, it's like, even when it gets proven that
Speaker 1: it was alone, she just can't stop going, like, but
Speaker 1: I spend so much money on him. It's I think
Speaker 1: I would just be so annoyed by that if I
Speaker 1: was in that group.
Speaker 2: No, she's she's crazy. She's full of shit and she's crazy.
Speaker 1: So but that's why now when I watch the episodes,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, it's weird to see them all be like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Shannon's amazing, poor Shannon. But they kind
Speaker 1: of do it to everyone because you know, they're doing
Speaker 1: the same thing with Jen and her awful husband, where
Speaker 1: they're just like I think they're married now, I don't
Speaker 1: know with her fiance, where they're like, he's so great
Speaker 1: to you and your kids, You're amazing for being with him.
Speaker 1: It's not until stuff is really really.
Speaker 2: Proven right, and then they go, see, we knew it exactly, yeah,
Speaker 2: Emily especially, But we'll get to that. Okay, we get
Speaker 2: to that. So where are we?
Speaker 1: Uh so uh Gina, Gina talks to Tamra M hmm.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're taught we are, isn't that? Yeah? So
Speaker 2: fake apologize. There's a scene.
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Speaker 2: about Emily kissing everybody? Because that made me laugh before
Speaker 2: we get to Ryan. Uh, yes, that's right. Before the
Speaker 2: Ryan thing. So Emily is being kind of funny, so
Speaker 2: Heather kind of she kisses Heather kisses Terry, and then
Speaker 2: for some reason she kisses Eddie right, and then Emily
Speaker 2: is like, She's like, okay, so we're just kissing everybody.
Speaker 2: So then she kisses everybody. She's just wasted. Oh, kind
Speaker 2: of horrified, but it's kind of funny. She just kisses
Speaker 2: everybody on the lips, because like, why not, it's very funny.
Speaker 2: I did like it was a cuteart It was a
Speaker 2: cute moment. Then we go over to Ryan and Matt.
Speaker 2: Matt has been Matt is Ryan's friend, who is the
Speaker 2: guy who is the bookie that we've basically been talking
Speaker 2: about this whole season, And there he is, and he
Speaker 2: even makes a joke like, oh, this is my money launderer.
Speaker 2: Ha ha, You guys are so funny.
Speaker 1: But we're going to find out at the very end
Speaker 1: of this episode that he's facing eighteen years Okay, So
Speaker 1: I don't know why this is freaking crunny.
Speaker 2: I don't know. The only thing I can say, and
Speaker 2: it's going to sound as naive as jin, but I
Speaker 2: think Ryan is a tool, and I think he's guilty,
Speaker 2: but somehow got off. But there's a world in which
Speaker 2: maybe Ryan really didn't know, because he did.
Speaker 1: If he knew that sent you Cecily, he got immunity.
Speaker 1: He got immunity because he had to give information.
Speaker 2: He of course he knew, because but he said you
Speaker 2: he's my money.
Speaker 1: Four yes, because he's in on the scheme. But he
Speaker 1: maybe his hands weren't quite as dirty as Matt or
Speaker 1: maybe they the FBI figured that they needed Ryan to
Speaker 1: put Matt away in jail. But Ryan a fucking one
Speaker 1: hundred percent knew exactly.
Speaker 2: What was going on, Let's say, because why would he
Speaker 2: say this is my money launder as a joke. You
Speaker 2: just wouldn't even say that, right if you knew, if
Speaker 2: he knew everything in that moment, why would he say that.
Speaker 1: I don't think he knows he's getting in trouble, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I think he's a tool.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm inclined to agree with your assessment. Or
Speaker 2: he's really.
Speaker 1: Cocky and he does a lot of drugs and he
Speaker 1: just thinks, like these people and no one's going to
Speaker 1: get me.
Speaker 2: They don't have anything on me. Yeah, he's got he's
Speaker 2: got something slimy that I've never quite seen. I was
Speaker 2: going to say, he has like a coked out Jack's vibe,
Speaker 2: but it's different than Jack's. It's it's worse somehow. I
Speaker 2: don't know what he is. But I don't like him.
Speaker 2: I don't like him for Jen. I don't like him
Speaker 2: for the show. Sorry.
Speaker 1: No, And I don't blame I don't blame Tamra in
Speaker 1: this in this one instance, I don't blame her for
Speaker 1: being like I don't want this fucking guy in our friend.
Speaker 2: Group, Like this is gross.
Speaker 1: He's he's up to absolutely no good. He's being investigated
Speaker 1: by the FBI. Like what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: That sounded like a me line, What are we doing here?
Speaker 2: What is this? So Emily then confronts Katie about Heather
Speaker 2: being mean the kid, saying, I get so confused by
Speaker 2: the storyline every time. I don't totally understand. She's so slurry.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you what happened, so I wrote, I
Speaker 1: wrote down the whole the conversation exactly as it was.
Speaker 1: So Emily's like, Kylie came to stay with my children.
Speaker 1: She did, this is an amazing job.
Speaker 2: Then with Kylie laugh.
Speaker 1: My boys told me mom, Kylie told us that Heather's mean,
Speaker 1: And Katie's like, okay, can I tell you what she
Speaker 1: told me? So then they show a flashback of Kylie
Speaker 1: telling the story that she said that. The boys were like,
Speaker 1: hey that she said to the boys, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: Kylie talking. Hey, my mom is friends with your mom.
Speaker 1: Do you know any of her friends? And the boys said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we know Heather, but she's really mean. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: believe Kylie's end of this story.
Speaker 2: I agree with you on this. I do agree with you,
Speaker 2: especially when we saw the little boy. She's like, well,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like my youngest kids saying it.
Speaker 2: And then they show a flashback of her six year
Speaker 2: old son going like, what is Heather being mean to
Speaker 2: you mama again? It's time?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they totally the editors throw her under the bus
Speaker 1: and I thought you I thought it was chef's kiss.
Speaker 2: Like right after the kid goes.
Speaker 1: Mommy, was Heather being a jerk again for the millionth time?
Speaker 2: Why she always so mean to you? Yeah? That was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous, I will give you that. And so
Speaker 2: Heather and being a little hard on her well, well,
Speaker 2: I mean, none of it is that important, is the point?
Speaker 2: Because yes, we know that Katie and Heather don't like
Speaker 2: each other. So I don't think it's that crazy that
Speaker 2: Katie's kids would be like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know Heather's mean. I don't think that's so crazy.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's weird that Kylie is trying
Speaker 1: to throw the boys under the bus. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that these young boys. First of all, I don't believe
Speaker 1: they had a conversation where she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: my mom is friends with your mom.
Speaker 2: Do you know any of her friends.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that these two twin stupid boys are
Speaker 1: going to be like, yes, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we do know some of our moms.
Speaker 2: We've really noticed the dynamics between Heather. You know what's
Speaker 2: really weird. I mean, honestly, as they're like playing with
Speaker 2: g I Joe's you know what, I just don't it's
Speaker 2: like a very subtle snark. You get a very new money,
Speaker 2: subtle snark that Heather's throwing and I don't like it.
Speaker 2: You're like, wait, would you say you said new money
Speaker 2: subtle snark? Yes, that was totally my thought. That was
Speaker 2: my thought Kylie, like, these boys are very sophisticated, mom.
Speaker 2: They were really they were.
Speaker 1: Discussing just nuances that you would not think they'd pick.
Speaker 2: Up on, but they did. It was really crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Emily so conversation, even though Emily's drunk.
Speaker 1: She's like, Okay, my boys don't even know who the
Speaker 1: fuck Heather is and they didn't say it. And Katie's like, well,
Speaker 1: she says they did, and I believe my daughter.
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, it's just stupid. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: dumb That's why I just don't. I don't. I couldn't
Speaker 2: even care to understand it. Every single time they've tried
Speaker 2: to do it. But Heather is genuinely mad, so she's
Speaker 2: gonna she and Katie kind of get into it. She
Speaker 2: calls Katie boring, what did you think of that? She's like,
Speaker 2: your bar, Yeah, that's true, that's her.
Speaker 1: So Katie, well, basically, Katie, I don't know if does
Speaker 1: Heather walk over to the conversation or whatever, and she
Speaker 1: and Katie says, well, we were just giggling about it,
Speaker 1: like just just two ladies giggling and giggling.
Speaker 2: I don't like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, Heather goes, wait, you were laughing about me being mean,
Speaker 1: and then Heather gets.
Speaker 2: So over the top with her like, yeah, so mad, how.
Speaker 1: Dare you it's she does, she does take it over
Speaker 1: the top, but Heather's already big mad at the fact
Speaker 1: that Katie and I'm going to side with Heather on
Speaker 1: the idea that it is weird for a new person
Speaker 1: to come into your friend group via Sutton and she
Speaker 1: first time on the season, you find out your Heather.
Speaker 1: You find out that this bitch is going around to
Speaker 1: everybody going I have a story about Heather.
Speaker 2: Let's bring her down. But the stories are so stupid.
Speaker 2: But it's not anything for real. It's like, oh, they
Speaker 2: may have called PAPAA on themselves, which they did, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know my six year Like she literally came
Speaker 2: up with the most benign thing that should not be
Speaker 2: a fight. I get that Heather would be annoyed if
Speaker 2: that's real, where she's just like, why are you coming
Speaker 2: for me? Come for any of these other bitches? Why
Speaker 2: me leave me out? Leave my name at her mouth?
Speaker 2: But Heather isn't perfect, like she thinks, she's just not
Speaker 2: and I fancy pants as they used to call her,
Speaker 2: like she's you know, she got to have something, and
Speaker 2: they did call Popper. They clearly called paparazzi on themselves.
Speaker 2: They're posing for the phone. Maybe they didn't Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: they didn't call the paparazzi, but they knew they were
Speaker 2: posing for a photo. And maybe that's where maybe if
Speaker 2: Heather just said that, like, obviously we're pointing at something
Speaker 2: at Disneyland.
Speaker 1: It is so clearly staged. We didn't your person believe
Speaker 1: that they alerted POPPERA. I don't think that paparazzi would
Speaker 1: care that Heather dubro is at Disneyland. No nobody would
Speaker 1: drive all the way there for that, Like did somebody
Speaker 1: did they?
Speaker 2: Did they take a picture?
Speaker 1: Did they take a selfie or have someone take their
Speaker 1: picture and send it to paparazzi? And probably I don't
Speaker 1: disbelieve that at all. But it's Katie's intention of like
Speaker 1: I found out that she called paparazzi. She's trying to
Speaker 1: embarrass her. So the thing is you're putting Heather in
Speaker 1: a weird position where she has to go. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we did send that to paparazzi. We do like
Speaker 1: to promote ourselves like it's a weird thing. To have
Speaker 1: to say about yourself when you're like, why do you
Speaker 1: fucking care? Katie, Like, why are you bringing that up?
Speaker 1: What do you think this is? Like? Oh, you really
Speaker 1: got me? Like this is what's going to take me
Speaker 1: down this season. And it's if I'm Heather, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be like, it's just ridiculous. Is what is up this
Speaker 1: girl's ass? Why is she coming for me? So Heather
Speaker 1: waves her off and goes, I'm done with all your
Speaker 1: lies and your nonsense and coming after me, And then
Speaker 1: Katie thinks she's she's having a moment. She's like, you're
Speaker 1: always putting your nails in my face. You're a liar,
Speaker 1: You're a liar, liar pants you did call paparazzi. And
Speaker 1: Heather is just like, how dare you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm over it. I'm just over It's a fake,
Speaker 2: bullshit storyline. And it's like there's so much more on
Speaker 2: the show, like they should. That's the thing. I guess
Speaker 2: they have to have filler, just like Alexus's lips. They
Speaker 2: got to fill that shit up. They gotta fill time.
Speaker 1: But it was a waste and I don't and I
Speaker 1: don't believe that any of these people are actually mad
Speaker 1: at each other. So I a great and Emily is
Speaker 1: trying to kind of come for Katie. She's like, okay,
Speaker 1: w G see how telling Tiara put me in a
Speaker 1: bad position with my best friend Heather. And Katie's like,
Speaker 1: I do yes, I'm sorry. I won't do that again.
Speaker 1: Moving forward, So Tamra, this was so weird. Tamra runs
Speaker 1: over runs across the party, which by the way, is
Speaker 1: probably in like a six by six space because that's
Speaker 1: how the cameras are set up. So every if you
Speaker 1: notice people are gossiping about each other, and then they
Speaker 1: have this over the shoulder shot of somebody and you
Speaker 1: can see that like Shannon and somebody else are standing
Speaker 1: basically right behind two people and they're all talking about
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's just so funny. It's like you're all standing in
Speaker 1: this little spot. But Tamra runs over and hugs Jen
Speaker 1: kind of the way that you might like how you
Speaker 1: hugged Andy Cohen.
Speaker 2: I didn't hug him. I just touched his chest gently.
Speaker 1: The way you hug like you bear hugged him, like
Speaker 1: you just wrapped him up and like a hug, impressed
Speaker 1: your body kind of against him.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like that, the way I just
Speaker 2: shoved my buds, the way I took my pants off.
Speaker 2: I had his choice and just is like, look at this,
Speaker 2: you like this. I shouldn't have done that. Look at
Speaker 2: my minge. I regret that that I can see now
Speaker 2: in retrospect.
Speaker 1: Not great, right, So Tamra, Tamra's like, you look so
Speaker 1: beautiful and I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 2: Of shit, yes, this is what okay, this is where
Speaker 2: I went over the edge. Tamra's just so full shit
Speaker 2: and this is when I spoil this last our last show.
Speaker 2: Jen knows she's full of shit, and she doesn't take
Speaker 2: the bait. She's like, what evs get out of here? Literally,
Speaker 2: She's like because because look out fast it escalate. Tamara
Speaker 2: can't even stay on that bullshit line. First of all,
Speaker 2: she has to have Jen because she's fighting with shann
Speaker 2: and she can't fight with everybody. So, oh, I guess
Speaker 2: they're not They're not coming with me on the gen train.
Speaker 2: So I better make this right. And Eddie's making her
Speaker 2: make it right. Eddie and Jen are friends, and he's like,
Speaker 2: you better fucking do stop this. So Tamara has to
Speaker 2: be full of shit, and Jen's like yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: having it well.
Speaker 1: And Tamar still thinks that she's got this smoking gun.
Speaker 1: She's like, listen, I just want you to understand that
Speaker 1: there's like more to it. I have texts a lot
Speaker 1: of texts, Like, I have so many texts and I
Speaker 1: want to show them all to you. So Jen tells Camera, like,
Speaker 1: the difference is that Shannon could be all over that
Speaker 1: text thread and I don't care because she's changed and
Speaker 1: Tamara never changes. Okay, you're you're wrong. You're right, Tamara
Speaker 1: never changes, but you're wrong. The Channon has changed. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair, fair enough. Now, now Vicky makes a good point.
Speaker 1: At this point, Vicky is like, you know, Tama basically
Speaker 1: is like, Tarma sucks. I don't have anything to say
Speaker 1: to her. Her e She says something like, her ego
Speaker 1: is the size of Los Angeles. Well, Vicky, yours isn't
Speaker 1: much smaller, but she does. She's sort of like, I
Speaker 1: have nothing to say to her. I don't trust her,
Speaker 1: I don't like her. I'll give her that. And then
Speaker 1: Jena's like, Tamar, you talk shit about Ryan to everyone,
Speaker 1: including Katie at the dinner, and Tamar thinks she's She's like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: all the women talk shit about Ryan, which is true.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that it is true. Tamar
Speaker 1: is outing this stuff on camera and Jena does not
Speaker 1: like that. Jen doesn't like it. She doesn't believe anything
Speaker 1: is wrong. But all of these women are talking about
Speaker 1: freaking Ryan. Yes, that's true, Jenny, see that later for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Jen's like, I don't want to talk about it,
Speaker 1: and you're going to raise your voice, you can leave.
Speaker 2: So Tamara's like, okay.
Speaker 1: Then everyone's screaming for okay, this this whole part of
Speaker 1: the show, right, I'm hoping you can shed some light
Speaker 1: on because Shannon is going to storm out again and
Speaker 1: I have no idea why.
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, yeah, you know, that seemed edited poorly, because
Speaker 2: first of all, let's not Yeah, everyone's yelling. Emily is
Speaker 2: drunkingly like, she's so drunk she's yelling. Shannon seems relatively
Speaker 2: sober at this point, doesn't she Monroe, Oh he brought
Speaker 2: me a toy ow you want to bring the sheepies?
Speaker 2: Okayy's okay, you're silly. Oh you know what, I forgot
Speaker 2: to give him his Gaba pen in this morning? Oh
Speaker 2: that must okay, this is what that looks like silly face.
Speaker 2: Somebody needs a chill pill. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Emily's hammered, and she's just like Shannon, yeah, shon.
Speaker 2: So Shannon comes over and they take a group picture.
Speaker 1: That's why she wants yeah, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: what I felt was out of nowhere. Unless yeah, it's
Speaker 1: either bad editing or you saw something that I didn't see.
Speaker 1: Shannon just gets super mad and she's like, oh, I've
Speaker 1: been doing is working on my Oh maybe okay? Hold on,
Speaker 1: Alexis is in the picture. Yeah, yeah, she's far away
Speaker 1: from Shannon. Does she say anything, Well, she does.
Speaker 2: When Shannon leaves, she doesn't say anything that I noticed
Speaker 2: at first. But Shannon something seemed to be edited out,
Speaker 2: because like she's just standing there and she's fine, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden she's like, and I won't
Speaker 2: take this anymore and I had to fly home and
Speaker 2: she storms out and that's when have another drink? Did
Speaker 2: you hear that? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, well, Tamra goes, well, that's what she does. She
Speaker 1: storms off. That's our But that made no sense. I
Speaker 1: can't make sense out of that because it honestly did not.
Speaker 1: It seemed like they left something out of editing, but
Speaker 1: then the next part is amazing. Okay, I mean, Shannon,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if other people aren't seeing the Shannon
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing at this point, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know what to tell you. Shannon storms into the bar
Speaker 1: area over to Matt, Katie's husband.
Speaker 2: Matt, and she's like, this was insane. I'm leaving, and
Speaker 2: Matt just as like what happened? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: She's like, you know what, I used to say I'm done,
Speaker 1: but then I would come back, but now I am done.
Speaker 1: So Matt says, well, I mean maybe you should walk
Speaker 1: away because you know I care. Literally, it's unedited. You
Speaker 1: see it coming out of his mouth. There's nothing He doesn't.
Speaker 2: Go like, because you're a cunt.
Speaker 1: He says, maybe I should walk away because you know
Speaker 1: I care about you and you've always been nice to me.
Speaker 1: And then Shannon's like, well that really angers me because
Speaker 1: you don't know me. I'm probably the strongest person in
Speaker 1: this whole group.
Speaker 2: Okay, she's sane. Okay, I'm going to say something. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say something. I'm going to get read. You've been
Speaker 2: holding back. I have been holding back this entire season.
Speaker 2: It's almost like We're in a debate club and you're like,
Speaker 2: but why can't everybody see? And you know what? I
Speaker 2: see it? Now? You win? You win, because my god,
Speaker 2: you won. Can we take hold on? Hold on? Let
Speaker 2: me just take a moment, brea cry if you need
Speaker 2: to cry it out, let it go, Let it okay,
Speaker 2: but go. I also hate Tamara too, so don't worry.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, and I get that. It's it's
Speaker 2: clear that you're right. Shannon has these bursts of insanity
Speaker 2: and you never really know. It's like you don't really
Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. She goes after the wrong people.
Speaker 2: She goes after whoever she thinks is weaker than her. Yes,
Speaker 2: and it's it's so gross and there's no even No
Speaker 2: matter how much she tries to play the victim, which
Speaker 2: is what she always does, she's always going to find
Speaker 2: someone to be a fucking asshole. So she's not great.
Speaker 2: You're so right, and she thinks she thinks that she's right,
Speaker 2: like she she thinks she's just a victim of everybody,
Speaker 2: and she thinks that people are going to be on
Speaker 2: her side because she thinks.
Speaker 1: Like all these people will back me up. But weirdly,
Speaker 1: and this hasn't happened yet, but I do want to
Speaker 1: say that. It is like, okay, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: we'll get to it. So Matt says, well.
Speaker 2: She's like, I'm the strongest person in this group.
Speaker 1: And then Matt says, and there probably is some editing
Speaker 1: going on in here in this conversation. So Matt's like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: why are you over here talking to me?
Speaker 2: Then? And he's you know, while we find out he's
Speaker 2: kind of trying to separate himself because he doesn't want
Speaker 2: to be near Ryan and Matt. He doesn't want to
Speaker 2: be in the same He's like, I'm actually scared that
Speaker 2: there's going to be an FBI raid. I don't want
Speaker 2: to be a part of this. Yes that comes out later,
Speaker 2: I think that's nothing.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm in a weird business deal right now
Speaker 1: about like golf ball shotglasses with my wife, and I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to be around any money laundering stuff.
Speaker 2: So Matt literally says, he's like, oh, why are you
Speaker 2: over here talking to me? I was just how did
Speaker 2: I get hurt? That was just standing. She believes it,
Speaker 2: and she goes, are you trying to argue with me?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Right now? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Which is like wow, right, she's out of her mind?
Speaker 2: And then she stay, she doubles down on it. I
Speaker 2: guess she's just drunk and she can hold it a
Speaker 2: little bit more better than Emily in some ways. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I guess I can't unless she just has like a
Speaker 2: complete personality. I mean, they all kind of have personality disorders,
Speaker 2: except for Gina, who was perfect.
Speaker 1: So now we see so Tamas trying to leave and
Speaker 1: Terry is being funny and.
Speaker 2: He's like, let's give Terry a compliment. He looks good
Speaker 2: after his he got a nose job and it looks good.
Speaker 2: Yeahs say it. I'll say it. Terry's like, don't leave me.
Speaker 2: He's being funny.
Speaker 1: He's like, doesn't want Eddie to have to go home
Speaker 1: to and then he grabs Eddie from behind and he's
Speaker 1: like nice boobs.
Speaker 2: Which is funny friendly, It's nice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then Shannon storms back in over to Katie and
Speaker 1: she's like, your husband said inappropriate thanks today. What I mean,
Speaker 1: what were you thinking during this part?
Speaker 2: I mean I thought she was out of her mind.
Speaker 2: It made absolutely no sense. I was like scared for production.
Speaker 2: It made no sense. Yeah, So then Katie's like, what
Speaker 2: did he say? And she's like, he said, maybe it's
Speaker 2: time for you to walk away. And I was like,
Speaker 2: are you sious here?
Speaker 1: But I'm going to say something which was weird, So
Speaker 1: wouldn't you think because I thought this was going to
Speaker 1: kind of blow up.
Speaker 2: I thought Katie was going to be like, are you
Speaker 2: fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1: Like, now you're coming for my husband, like you're going
Speaker 1: to try to make it seem like he says, because
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty weird to say your husband
Speaker 1: said something inappropriate to me. I feel like you're implying
Speaker 1: that he was like sexually bothering you. Don't you think
Speaker 1: if somebody said that, Like if somebody if somebody came
Speaker 1: running over to me at a party and was like
Speaker 1: John said something inappropriate to me, I'd be like what?
Speaker 1: And then if I found out straight and do anything right, well,
Speaker 1: she's like, I've got to talk to him about this.
Speaker 1: But then only a few minutes later, you see Shannon
Speaker 1: and Katie and they're like sitting by a wall.
Speaker 2: This is right right at.
Speaker 1: The part where and I'm skipping something so we'll come
Speaker 1: back to it.
Speaker 2: But where Emily's falling off the wall. M hm, oh,
Speaker 2: you mean Geena and Emily are like climbing the wall
Speaker 2: to look at Johnny Jay. Yea, so over to the
Speaker 2: We're not there yet.
Speaker 1: No, I know, but I but I The reason I
Speaker 1: have to say that is because in that scene you
Speaker 1: can see that Katie and Shannon are like having a
Speaker 1: really funny like they're just laughing together next to each other,
Speaker 1: sitting So I was like, okay, so maybe these people
Speaker 1: are just being.
Speaker 2: Really dramatic for no reason, trying to have a scene.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, but that didn't It still didn't
Speaker 2: make any sense at all. So then okay, so Gina
Speaker 2: wants to give a toast to Jen. This is when
Speaker 2: Tamra sneaks out. This is a big moment. Tamra's like,
Speaker 2: let's ask she French exits, and I mean, good, that's
Speaker 2: the best choice she's made the entire time.
Speaker 1: I've never called a French exit, only an Irish goodbye French.
Speaker 2: Exit either one same thing. Okay, this is when Johnny
Speaker 2: Jay shows up, and I just was like, the nerve
Speaker 2: of this sea word, what a piece of shit he is.
Speaker 2: He does not need to get out of the thing.
Speaker 2: He doesn't even need to go pick up Alexis. They're
Speaker 2: being driven. I cannot stay. She's the worst, and he's
Speaker 2: even worse. And he's just trying to make oh like
Speaker 2: like we give a shit about whatever business dealings he has.
Speaker 2: I don't care what Hannon said about, Like, we don't
Speaker 2: need to clear your name because you don't have a
Speaker 2: name off my television, right idiot. So Alexis is like
Speaker 2: so over the obviously, like Alexis is to me what
Speaker 2: Shannon is to you? Still, Like I just I just
Speaker 2: if I would be out of my mind if there
Speaker 2: were people defending Alexis on Reddit, so I totally get
Speaker 2: where you're coming. I'd be like what Luckily that is
Speaker 2: not the case, right. But she's such a like she's
Speaker 2: doing such a big to do about John Jansen being there, Like, eh,
Speaker 2: Shannon for her credit here, to her credit, does not
Speaker 2: seem to care. She's kind of over it. Maybe she's drunk,
Speaker 2: but she does not seem to care that John Jansen's there.
Speaker 2: She's like whatever.
Speaker 1: So we freeze on Shannon and we get we have
Speaker 1: a we have a false ending here because we sprite
Speaker 1: freezes on Shannon and her final card says Shannon's girls
Speaker 1: are thriving in New York City in Paris, which I
Speaker 1: freaking told you at the last episode stop trying to
Speaker 1: make Shannon's kids a housewife.
Speaker 2: And they're trying to get him on the show obviously,
Speaker 2: like that's whatever. That was some deal they made. Also,
Speaker 2: let's not not point out that these aren't Chiron's they're
Speaker 2: doing anymore. They do as though it's a text message,
Speaker 2: like maybe it look like a cell phone and I
Speaker 2: could not read it. I was like, it's going too fast.
Speaker 2: They're not leaving it on there long enough, and I
Speaker 2: wasn't about to like pause it. I'm like, if you
Speaker 2: don't want me to read it, then I'm not going
Speaker 2: to read it. But that's on you production. So all
Speaker 2: I have is that, yeah, Shannon's won, and I just
Speaker 2: wrote Emily whatever, camera sucks, Heather whatever, Emily's falling.
Speaker 1: So this is the part where though Emily's falling in
Speaker 1: the bushes because she's so drunk, Emily and Gina's not drunk,
Speaker 1: but she's she's They're trying to do this like Laverne
Speaker 1: and Churley thing.
Speaker 2: They think it's so cute. It's like she looks like
Speaker 2: Ramona and Sonya right, they're trying to so best friends,
Speaker 2: we're wacky.
Speaker 1: Well they try to do that with Shannon and Vicki
Speaker 1: as well. Really it's trying to yes.
Speaker 2: We don't you and I on the beer on the
Speaker 2: Milwaukee beer thing. I'm sorry this is a Laverne and
Speaker 2: Churley reference, which she will not get somewhere else. But
Speaker 2: they're just Oh, I guess Lucy and Lucy and her
Speaker 2: friend would be about yes, yes, Lucy and Ethel. But
Speaker 2: you know we don't like Lucy and Ethyl. No, we
Speaker 2: don't at all.
Speaker 1: But that's which adds to why we don't like this
Speaker 1: kind of like fake.
Speaker 2: Because you and I have been friends for a long
Speaker 2: time and we've never done like a weird thing. We
Speaker 2: were trying to like hold a glass to a wall
Speaker 2: to overhear somebody else's conversation and falling all over each other. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got a lunch. It's like, it's just.
Speaker 1: We don't eat, and in general, we don't really respond
Speaker 1: well to physical comedy, Like I'm not going to ever
Speaker 1: watch a Mister Bean special.
Speaker 2: I don't like a lot of big facial expressions and
Speaker 2: like we're so crazy, We're so silly. And I mean
Speaker 2: even my Gina. I'm like, don't don't let this happen. Gina,
Speaker 2: You're better than this. Don't do this. I'll be your friend.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're falling all and Emily's just wasted. But
Speaker 2: no one wants to talk about that. And it's not
Speaker 2: like just a one time thing. Look, I drink, you know,
Speaker 2: like I'll have, like I said, a big events, like
Speaker 2: I'll have I'll have my two, my two, a lot
Speaker 2: of drinks and I'll have fun. I don't fall down.
Speaker 1: What if I I was like, what if I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'll have two or three drinks, but like
Speaker 1: I'm fine now, like I can totally and you're like
Speaker 1: my study, you just have a.
Speaker 2: Book coming, yeah, which would be fine. Also though we're
Speaker 2: all just living, we're all living our list life. We can.
Speaker 2: It's no I guess I just brought that up to say, like,
Speaker 2: no judgment on the drinking itself, just the hypocrisy of
Speaker 2: yelling at Shannon, yes, who sucks. Also they all freaking suck, yes.
Speaker 1: And no wonder I will say this in defense of Shannon,
Speaker 1: like they're all saying, well, yeah, we get drunk, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, but we don't like crush our car. Well,
Speaker 1: but guess what if you were drunk enough and you
Speaker 1: got behind the wheel of your car, you would crush
Speaker 1: your car Like yeah, and sat such a more responsible drinker.
Speaker 2: Right, and Shannon has a little bit more of a problem.
Speaker 2: Let's say, Okay, so, yeah, she has the disease. She
Speaker 2: can't she's they're showing her waking up in the mornings
Speaker 2: and drinking like this is an issue. Yes, I would say,
Speaker 2: Sutton is really no different at this point. She just
Speaker 2: has drivers agree, so like, this is an issue. So
Speaker 2: you know at this point, don't scream. That's why camera
Speaker 2: still sucks the most. Yeah, she's the worst because we
Speaker 2: know this. Okay, that's the worst.
Speaker 1: For like, why do so many of these housewives have
Speaker 1: drinking problems? Maybe we need to ask Andy Cohen.
Speaker 2: Let me touch his let me touch his nipples and
Speaker 2: see what happens. Maybe we should let's get to the
Speaker 2: big Now there's more. There's a reveal here. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: go through their dumb shit and we both care. You
Speaker 2: don't care, okay, well, I mean, okay, okay, Gina, what
Speaker 2: was Gina saying?
Speaker 1: Well, we have to laugh at the fact that uh oh, well, hold.
Speaker 2: On, Katie did not go to South Korea. Katie still
Speaker 2: has not yet gone to cal even though that was
Speaker 2: her entire storyline and her her.
Speaker 1: Last line of the show is she's telling her husband.
Speaker 1: At least I can always rely on the fact that
Speaker 1: I'm telling the truth and someone else is not.
Speaker 2: It's not really okay, that's your big good job. Yes.
Speaker 1: So then Gina catches the bouquet because they're doing like
Speaker 1: a fake like we're at a wedding, and it says
Speaker 1: Gina Travis are still living apart and share custody of
Speaker 1: their dogs.
Speaker 2: All right, and that was good. I was glad to
Speaker 2: hear it. I think there's very much together, which is fine.
Speaker 2: That's who Gena. She's she's like I said, she's right
Speaker 2: or die, and we love her.
Speaker 1: So then Jen gives this really heartwarming Blue Mountain greeting
Speaker 1: card speech about how things go to all my friends
Speaker 1: and even though there were doubters, I've I've never had
Speaker 1: a love like this. This is the most amazing love
Speaker 1: that I have with this here man Ryan.
Speaker 2: And then three weeks later I love it. I was like,
Speaker 2: three weeks later, I know, we're like, what, there's more
Speaker 2: time here, So three weeks later later we find out
Speaker 2: uh oh, Ryan did get accused of what they were
Speaker 2: all talking about, and he ended, you know, we'll get
Speaker 2: we'll get to what happened.
Speaker 1: We see headlines from US Weekly, page six, a bunch
Speaker 1: more headlines, and they all say Real Housewives of Orange
Speaker 1: County star Jennifer Pedrante's fiance reportedly embroiled in a sixteen
Speaker 1: million dollar Major League Baseball gambling scheme.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a pretty big thing. So Tamra showing
Speaker 2: her true colors again was never really apologizing to Jen.
Speaker 2: She was made to do that by Eddie. She immediately
Speaker 2: she's the first one to be like, see what do
Speaker 2: you guys think? See, which I understand why she'd feel
Speaker 2: that way, but she's still a couz, total cous It
Speaker 2: will never change my mind. So then we have Jen.
Speaker 1: She's on the couch with Ryan and she's sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch. She looks very serious. This is serious.
Speaker 2: Jen.
Speaker 1: She's like, this is like huge for me. And Ryan
Speaker 1: is so bad. He's so bad. He's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: Life just sometimes throws stuff at you that you can't control.
Speaker 1: That's why it's called life.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about that in a second, because I
Speaker 2: had to pause for a second and I was like, wait, what,
Speaker 2: life sometimes throws stuff at us, That's why they call
Speaker 2: it life. That's insanity. That's even crazier than Shannon yelling
Speaker 2: at Matt for no reason. He's such a dumb ass.
Speaker 2: But it makes sense that those two would be together.
Speaker 2: And this is when he says, like, maybe it's the
Speaker 2: lord's plan. How is it the lord's plan that you
Speaker 2: embezzled fourteen million dollars or sixteen whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, She's like, and she had, Well, everyone's going to
Speaker 1: want to question me.
Speaker 2: She goes, this is gonna be a fucking bloodbath for me.
Speaker 1: And Ryan goes, you know what, I don't give a
Speaker 1: shit what your friend gep they if they want to
Speaker 1: sit with me and ask me about my business dealings
Speaker 1: because I'm not involved with this. Matt is and I
Speaker 1: think he is really going to say, like, I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything, I have no involvement in this.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't get amanity does get off. You don't
Speaker 2: get immunity though for having that community. And I didn't
Speaker 2: know that. So he's so he had us, so he
Speaker 2: turned other people in. He snitched. Yes, Okay, yes, And
Speaker 2: how do we know that because it's Google it that's
Speaker 2: been reported. Okay, oh yeah, that's what she's been saying
Speaker 2: because I blocked Tamra out. He is all up in it.
Speaker 2: This is his business partner.
Speaker 1: They travel together all the time, they're all they're both
Speaker 1: doing it. It's they have a business together. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but he if you give somebody immunity, it's because they
Speaker 1: have information, absolutely right. So if you if you just
Speaker 1: google his name, you'll find out he got immunity.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, So Tamra meets up with Emily
Speaker 2: and Heather and supid. Alexis, yeah about it.
Speaker 1: Always talk about Yeah, well first they have and I
Speaker 1: think this is kind of important. They flash to a
Speaker 1: bunch of the different people, like they flashed to Jen going,
Speaker 1: Jen's dumb if she's going to.
Speaker 2: Marry this guy, and they later they all say it,
Speaker 2: they're like, she's the dumbest. Gina finally has the last
Speaker 2: word on that. She's like, she might be the dumbest person.
Speaker 1: She goes, it's gotta be that she's blinded by love,
Speaker 1: because no one is this dumb.
Speaker 2: Then she says it later she's like she's.
Speaker 1: And Emily says, Emily, but hold on it, because right
Speaker 1: before that Emily goes Jen makes bad decisions and she's
Speaker 1: just like oblivious.
Speaker 2: But Emily, don't forget.
Speaker 1: Is the one that I was mad about, because she
Speaker 1: was the one who was egging Jen on and going,
Speaker 1: he's great, he's such a great guy. He's so good
Speaker 1: to your kids. You got Emily, You're a fucking bitch
Speaker 1: for saying that.
Speaker 2: I think she's drunk sometimes and says one thing, and
Speaker 2: then when she's sober, Emily she's angry and law all
Speaker 2: about the law, like she's full of shit too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then they go back to Jen with Ryan, and
Speaker 1: that's when Ryan's like, you know, I believe everything is
Speaker 1: the Lord's plan, everything's working for us. What kind of
Speaker 1: freaking cult, weird manifesting? And did you see that the
Speaker 1: dog side eyed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dog dog into this. I saw that. Okay. So
Speaker 2: then that's when they go over to Tamra. Right, everybody
Speaker 2: del Camino, okay, and Tamra walks in to meet Emily. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is where she's like Heather and alexis right, they're
Speaker 2: all there and they're just talking. That's what I have.
Speaker 2: I just watched it literally yeah, Emily and Heather and
Speaker 2: unless they have a different conversation on Heather and Alexis,
Speaker 2: but I think they're all together.
Speaker 1: Well because over what We're going to go over to
Speaker 1: Katie's house in a minute with right, that's the first
Speaker 1: Tamara's like, yeah, my gut is never wrong. I knew
Speaker 1: he was involved in something, but I had no idea
Speaker 1: it was this bad. Yes, And then they all speculate
Speaker 1: about what he did and they're all scandalized and they're like,
Speaker 1: if she marries him.
Speaker 2: She's ridiculous, and they're not wrong about that. There, I
Speaker 2: give him that. I would say the same thing at
Speaker 2: this point because he's so gross. But they're just also
Speaker 2: full of shit because they're like, I like her, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you said, I like him, do you because you don't?
Speaker 2: I mean you immediately don't? Why because you don't want.
Speaker 1: To take care of you? He's a stand up guy.
Speaker 1: Only a great guy would like take you in and like,
Speaker 1: also take care of your kids. Well, let's talk about this.
Speaker 1: This is where it got kind of interesting again.
Speaker 2: When Jen goes over to I guess Katie's and she's
Speaker 2: still she is not very bright because she's still like,
Speaker 2: but I mean, like, what's bad about him? What she goes?
Speaker 2: She goes.
Speaker 1: You, guys, this is a lot like I just left
Speaker 1: the house. I didn't know where to go, really, so
Speaker 1: you went to your fake friend's house. These people are
Speaker 1: about your friends with Cam you went to for production.
Speaker 2: And Gina doesn't like you. She's not like you this
Speaker 2: whole season. But she's got to be the like speaking
Speaker 2: the truth to you. She's the only one. It's so
Speaker 2: crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you for saying that, because yes, going back
Speaker 1: to the beginning of the season, which to them is
Speaker 1: only a couple months ago that they were filming, I mean,
Speaker 1: you hate Gina. You and Gina hate each other, right,
Speaker 1: big fight.
Speaker 2: But well, Jeen doesn't hate Gina. I think Gina is
Speaker 2: just doesn't She's too smart for Jen. She doesn't want
Speaker 2: to be friends. That's just not that's not her. People.
Speaker 2: I love Gina so much, so.
Speaker 1: Gina is like, I think you were in an unhealthy relationship, and.
Speaker 2: She can I say this about Gina, She says this,
Speaker 2: but she finds this weird. Gina is always so good
Speaker 2: about like, she's not judgmental, so she says things with
Speaker 2: such a helpful tone, and she's done that with Shannon's
Speaker 2: She's like, look, I'm going to speak the truth, but
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it in a way that
Speaker 2: I'm like, you suck, You're an idiot, Like you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I feel like that would be hard
Speaker 2: to do with Jen at this point, and Gina still
Speaker 2: is able to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then Jen's like, but I don't know what you mean,
Speaker 1: like what part of it is unhealthy?
Speaker 2: And Gina goes everything yeah, and she says it like like, look,
Speaker 2: I'm looking out for you at this point. Now you're
Speaker 2: just like a lost deer and I it's and then
Speaker 2: Jen starts to say She's like, I fucked up. I
Speaker 2: think I fucked up. Well, she well, first she defends him.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, yeah, you guys, I was in a
Speaker 1: marriage for twenty three years to a man who couldn't
Speaker 1: even have a conversation.
Speaker 2: With me, and now I feel like I have a
Speaker 2: best friend.
Speaker 1: So Katie goes, well, your concern should be for you
Speaker 1: and your kids, and then then Jen starts crying, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they are both of us.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why I kind of like pet because I
Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, if you strip
Speaker 2: away all the other bullshit of the show. She is
Speaker 2: somebody like that would be reasonable in your life, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Maybe I don't know. So yeah,
Speaker 2: she starts to cry. She starts to realize it. She's like,
Speaker 2: I fucked up. But then we get to the we're
Speaker 2: nearing the end here, that's when we find out, actually,
Speaker 2: Ryan it turns out, was found innocent.
Speaker 1: They don't really go into all of it. It says
Speaker 1: right here, Ryan wasn't indicted. He received full immunity. No,
Speaker 1: but what did it say on the chirn the end
Speaker 1: of the show. It doesn't say all that. It just says,
Speaker 1: like the other guy was found guilty and is facing
Speaker 1: eighteen years. Right, but Ryan was found innocent.
Speaker 2: It didn't say he was found innocent. It says he
Speaker 2: wasn't indicted. Oh, I read indicted as innocent because it
Speaker 2: was too small of a.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. He was given the me unity and
Speaker 1: he wasn't indicted, and.
Speaker 2: His partner was well that's now listen, stay with us, because.
Speaker 1: And then he says and then at the end of
Speaker 1: the card it says Jen's wedding is scheduled for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. Yeah, it'll happen. Gina says, which I thought
Speaker 1: was interesting. Right before the card, Gina says, I think
Speaker 1: it's incredibly hard for Jen to wrap her head around
Speaker 1: the fact that she blew up her life for this
Speaker 1: man who didn't turn out to be what she thought
Speaker 1: he was. So remember that Jen like cheated with Ryan
Speaker 1: on her husband, That's right, and like, you know, blew
Speaker 1: up her marriage for this guy. Jen has a very
Speaker 1: bad picker, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And she's a dumb ass and she
Speaker 2: kind of screwed people over money and didn't pay rent.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, look at this ring, yees sell
Speaker 2: the freaking ring or give Gina the money the back rent.
Speaker 2: You guys didn't pay rent like that. Now I'm mad.
Speaker 2: I'm just a case man. I just woke up. I
Speaker 2: was just unfrozy, and I don't know what. I don't
Speaker 2: know anything about Rent. What's wrong? What's those four letters? Rent?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with this man? I don't like she's nuts,
Speaker 2: but you guys, I just want to plug next week
Speaker 2: because I had heard from Gina, actually, because she's we're
Speaker 2: good friends. No, I think I told you she'd been
Speaker 2: on Watch What Happens and she'd said like it was
Speaker 2: a really healing She made the reunion seem like it
Speaker 2: was real chill, and I don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: be that chill. I think Gina doesn't get the brunt
Speaker 2: of it because she her hands are kind of clean now,
Speaker 2: so she's like enjoying watching other people fight. Uh huh,
Speaker 2: this is what we would all do. But so maybe
Speaker 2: that's why I thought that. But it looks like it's
Speaker 2: going to be a damn good reunion. It does look
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean, and it doesn't mean just because they could
Speaker 1: end on a good note, but it could still be crazy, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think Gina is going to get the
Speaker 2: most of it. I think it's just gonna I can't
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch the shit go down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of these people are still not speaking.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, so that that bodes well for a good reunion.
Speaker 2: I mean it might be time to I mean, the
Speaker 2: show's not ending. I mean, they're obviously they have a
Speaker 2: lot more to go. Does They're not implying in any
Speaker 2: way like Jersey Jersey was so bad at the end
Speaker 2: that they couldn't even have a reunion. Andy was like,
Speaker 2: we can't have a re union. So instead they divide,
Speaker 2: and they divided them into two groups. At the end,
Speaker 2: I don't even remember. I couldn't tell you who hated
Speaker 2: who and why because they were so vile, all of them.
Speaker 2: But they put them in two groups and made them
Speaker 2: have a watching party. So they had the two groups
Speaker 2: watching the finale separately, and that was the reunion. There
Speaker 2: was no reunion. Oh, and I mean it was bad
Speaker 2: because nobody gives it to their sometimes they get it wrong.
Speaker 2: I would say with this OC cast, I mean, I
Speaker 2: know everyone wants Stammer out, but you're right, it's good TV.
Speaker 2: I don't think you'd get rid of her, you know,
Speaker 2: I think this is a good cast. I'd keep going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if nobody will film with her, they'll
Speaker 1: have to get rid of her. But like they wouldn't
Speaker 1: need her on that wall, but.
Speaker 2: Heather will film with her. But I think I do
Speaker 2: think Heather's probably jumping. Maybe maybe they were floating that
Speaker 2: out and it just didn't.
Speaker 1: But she did jump because we've seen the at we've
Speaker 1: seen who's coming up Beverly Hills, and Heather's not on
Speaker 1: the cast.
Speaker 2: I know that that was the rumor, but maybe that
Speaker 2: she's going to be a friend of a secret friend of,
Speaker 2: and they'll try to work her in because they moved
Speaker 2: to Beverly Hills. She doesn't belong in OC, right, I agree,
Speaker 2: So I'm not really sure what's going on. But all right,
Speaker 2: hey guys, if you've just finished listening to part two,
Speaker 2: go over to our Patreon because we have also today
Speaker 2: the Reunion for Love Is Blind. Yeah, that happened. That
Speaker 2: shit up, and I've got some serious shit to say
Speaker 2: about Nick Lache and I'm sure you do too, but
Speaker 2: we'll get to that. My god, is he dumb? Sorry?
Speaker 2: And then we like him? But yeah, and also, obviously
Speaker 2: you know all the other stuff we're doing ninety day
Speaker 2: the other way if you're following that, obviously Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 2: We got it all up and it's still coming next week,
Speaker 2: so stay with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks everybody, Love you guys.
Speaker 2: Bye bye