Speaker 1: Breaking down all the X is a ohs. This is
Speaker 1: I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Why in the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve Riverta, your Troy Hutches Sin.
Speaker 2: We got ready with breaking news.
Speaker 3: But first the first I just want to clear something.
Speaker 3: I did mean Christian Conrad, not Conrad Mattertinez. Sorry, it's
Speaker 3: both Conrads. I got it confused. It happens. Christian Conrad
Speaker 3: is what I meant to say, the pitching coach for
Speaker 3: pitching coach for Arizona. Obviously short little point card that
Speaker 3: just transferred Conrad Martinez. It's not the pitching coach. I said, God,
Speaker 3: that's interesting. They have the same name.
Speaker 4: I didn't even catch all right, yeah, okay, sorry, question
Speaker 4: myself too.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is I.
Speaker 1: On the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 4: All right, after that that clear up, got some got
Speaker 4: some cool stuff here. Colton Smith, ranked number one hundred
Speaker 4: and thirty five in the world, is two wins away
Speaker 4: from the main draw at Wimbledon.
Speaker 5: So I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Also in local news.
Speaker 3: Colton Smith and former U of A yeah, tennis player.
Speaker 4: Yeah, former U of a tennis player. Sorry if I
Speaker 4: didn't preface that. This is a cool local one that
Speaker 4: I saw. Dariel Rivero. I guess he comes from a
Speaker 4: big baseball family here in the area. Has been is
Speaker 4: gonna have a tryout for roster spot on the twelve
Speaker 4: under national team for the World Baseball Softball Confederation.
Speaker 2: Mm hm, and so female women no softball.
Speaker 4: I mean it says USA Baseball this is and then
Speaker 4: it also says World Baseball Softball Confederation. Okay, so let's
Speaker 4: do both. I don't know how that works, but it's
Speaker 4: on all sports to soon. Anybody wants check.
Speaker 2: Mike, Mike, Mike, Christian Conrad will call us know her.
Speaker 2: I've your Mike calls with that clarification.
Speaker 4: Also, we kind of talked about this one already. But
Speaker 4: Arizona signed chip Kill to a four year extension and
Speaker 4: Arizona was ranked seventh in the final.
Speaker 2: That's about right. They were picked in the draft Kings
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. They were the seventh favorite team to
Speaker 2: win it all.
Speaker 4: So that was pretty Who's a Who's a Louis Murray
Speaker 4: Louisville one.
Speaker 3: I don't know why would say, Louisville, Murray State.
Speaker 4: I think Louisville, Yeah, Louisville sixth it was Louisville sixth,
Speaker 4: U C l A, Oregon State, Arkansas Coastal and then
Speaker 4: l s U.
Speaker 3: Yeah. All right.
Speaker 4: Following that up, big news from yesterday, everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 4: Thunder win their first NBA championship in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 5: Obviously they won, uh one or two? I think in
Speaker 5: Seattle one just one.
Speaker 3: I think one.
Speaker 5: I know they won one.
Speaker 4: For sure, I don't I'm not sure if they want
Speaker 4: to want a second one. And then big news that
Speaker 4: also came out today is that tyresee towards Achilles, so
Speaker 4: he'll probably be out for next season. It's considering how
Speaker 4: late it was in the year for for this year.
Speaker 4: Moving on to baseball, I know Troy always likes to
Speaker 4: talk about the Diamondbacks. Uh you know, uh, they lost
Speaker 4: unfortunately against the Rockies, but they won the series yesterday,
Speaker 4: or they lost yesterday but won the series, and they
Speaker 4: have another one coming up against the White Sox.
Speaker 3: So is that we're home.
Speaker 4: Nope, No, hopefully the Pope doesn't influence any of that,
Speaker 4: or you know, the divine.
Speaker 2: You're telling him not to be involved in this is
Speaker 2: what you're saying.
Speaker 4: You never know, you know, he's he's supposed to be
Speaker 4: the big guys right hand man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So hopefully doesn't mess with it.
Speaker 3: Stay out of politics and religion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, well, I mean he got into sports. I
Speaker 4: stay out of sports too.
Speaker 5: Another big, another big story.
Speaker 3: Conrad Martinez is the pitching coach for you.
Speaker 5: May uh hey, he's a double threat. You know, double threat.
Speaker 5: You can do it on the court and on the field.
Speaker 4: The Sons obviously made that huge trade yesterday for Or
Speaker 4: they traded Kevin Duran.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry to the Rockets obviously.
Speaker 4: We already talked about how that could affect Carter Bryan's
Speaker 4: draft stock.
Speaker 5: O Tani, gotta you get rock yesterday. No, he had
Speaker 5: a couple of strikeouts.
Speaker 3: Did he did he give up any runs? I don't
Speaker 3: think he did.
Speaker 2: Just went one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, still just going one. Doesn't say when they're gonna
Speaker 4: start upping that. But he threw eighteen. So staying fairly
Speaker 4: uh conservative with the well Dodgers were saying fairly conservative
Speaker 4: without arm Oh this is one that I kind of
Speaker 4: surprised me in fis you I think former quarterback I
Speaker 4: think it's said former quarterback on the headline, but I
Speaker 4: don't really, I can't see it now. It's called out
Speaker 4: Alabama even though this like they're playing each other this
Speaker 4: coming season.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty early to start giving bulletin material.
Speaker 5: But I mean, what do you say he just said that, uh.
Speaker 4: Said Alabama doesn't have Nick Saban to save them anymore.
Speaker 3: He's right, yeah, it's not not not all the way
Speaker 3: wrong and even four and three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and who knows what he's going to do considering right,
Speaker 4: what happened last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he shouldn't be talking crap after doing what
Speaker 3: they did last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a bad look.
Speaker 3: That's is that it? Yeah, there's not a lot, there's not.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, then the one trying to find that
Speaker 2: one that you sent me the ritual report, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: what it means?
Speaker 6: I don't know if you can get it up on
Speaker 6: on there because your phone. That's interesting to me. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so just like while I look for it, I could
Speaker 6: preface it. The n c A A is I mean,
Speaker 6: it was brought up.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like really how much it
Speaker 4: was debated, but it was brought up someone within like
Speaker 4: the board or somewhere something like that is debating, or like,
Speaker 4: like I said, brought up changing the betting rules to
Speaker 4: allow players and staff which you know.
Speaker 2: Well, to allow them to Yes, yeah, you might want
Speaker 2: to read that more carefully that I don't think that'd
Speaker 2: be foolish for them to do.
Speaker 4: That first paragraph is as n c double A leaders
Speaker 4: prepared to decide whether to pass new legislation that would
Speaker 4: allow college athletes, coaches, and staffords to bet on professional sports.
Speaker 4: The idea of granting that permission reportedly has not gone
Speaker 4: over well with the members of thirty five person Well,
Speaker 4: oh professional.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of makes sense, but they still wouldn't
Speaker 2: allow that. I still don't think that would better. No, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. No matter how prominent or
Speaker 2: that gambling is in the world that we live in
Speaker 2: and how they sponsor stuff now I can venues and
Speaker 2: things like that, I.
Speaker 3: Don't I don't think they would. Not only that, but
Speaker 3: not that it doesn't happen already. But how many athletes
Speaker 3: and coaches know athletes coaches at that level, sure, oh
Speaker 3: that guy's I'm playing okay, cool? Thanks, got it know?
Speaker 4: And how many I think another thing too, is like,
Speaker 4: how many NCAA players are really going to be able
Speaker 4: to bet?
Speaker 5: You still got to be twenty one?
Speaker 3: True?
Speaker 2: True, but true, But it just opens up in another
Speaker 2: can of worms. Wh I deal with it? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it's better just to stay away from it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not that it prevents them already. Yeah, well that's for
Speaker 2: another different topic. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know a lot of people. Uh, giving
Speaker 4: how it's his name, Alex Caruso some heat?
Speaker 2: Where did he play in college? Because he was undrafted?
Speaker 2: He's another Yeah, yeah, he's another t J. Yeah, better
Speaker 2: DJ Texas A and M. Really Texas A and M.
Speaker 2: I never would have thought that. I would have thought
Speaker 2: he's low. No, No, you know who plays it? You
Speaker 2: know who played it in your Mexico Indianapolis, the Indiana
Speaker 2: good player, the tall guy.
Speaker 3: Myles Turner, no be topping, No, the other guy dating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they were pretty good when he was there,
Speaker 2: foreign guy International.
Speaker 3: That's when.
Speaker 2: That's when New Mexico State was good, maybe three four
Speaker 2: years ago, before all the trouble. I didn't even know
Speaker 2: he did until I saw his name and I realized
Speaker 2: he paid played that in New Mexico State. He's fantastic. He
Speaker 2: would have been able to say them had you know,
Speaker 2: he and Matren had a fairly good fourth quarter. I
Speaker 2: guess it was, and and uh had a pretty good
Speaker 2: third quarter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but once once you lose that, oh no, no,
Speaker 3: you were you.
Speaker 2: Were going to win that just given the you know,
Speaker 2: the whole game to play like that.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean and I think it, you know, for
Speaker 4: you know, even though the outcome it wasn't with like
Speaker 4: Pacers and and their fans wanted. I mean it was
Speaker 4: it was until the third like halfway through the third quarter.
Speaker 2: It was a good game, hey, with about three minute
Speaker 2: stuff and they were up by twelve.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking that no.
Speaker 2: Lead is safe given the the game three, the games ago,
Speaker 2: whatever it was. But where Indianapolis lost the series was
Speaker 2: the game five when they had that big lead and
Speaker 2: then they gave it up.
Speaker 7: One.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it was Game four, one of those games,
Speaker 3: game five, because you could have gone up three one.
Speaker 3: Oh so game four they had a huge leader in
Speaker 3: the game. I am not on it today, man, that's
Speaker 3: getting it. It's freezing in he though, No, No, it
Speaker 3: was Game four, because ye, yeah, it was Game four yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 3: I mean that's a big opportunity missed and now like
Speaker 3: it was great for Indianapolis and you should celebrate making
Speaker 3: it that far. But yea, when are you going to
Speaker 3: get back?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And is it even possible to get back with this?
Speaker 3: Now that Halliburton is probably gonna be out for a year,
Speaker 3: you're going to miss that year with them. Then guys
Speaker 3: are going to get older, Then contracts are going to happen,
Speaker 3: are not going to be the same. I think your
Speaker 3: window of yeah and things can change, go ahead to
Speaker 3: kill it right now? Your window is closing, Yeah, because
Speaker 3: of the injury. I think the injury plays a massive rolle.
Speaker 2: What do you think about Phoenix with that trade? I
Speaker 2: love the trade because.
Speaker 3: Because one, it's hard to get anything for a thirty
Speaker 3: seven year old they I think they could have gotten
Speaker 3: a little bit more, But I'm fine what they got
Speaker 3: in terms of the draft pick side of it. But
Speaker 3: thirty seven year old making one hundred and not one
Speaker 3: hundred fifty one million dollars, that's difficult to trade. Two,
Speaker 3: he's not the same player. At three. You got a young,
Speaker 3: talented player in Jalen Green. I know he's on a
Speaker 3: big contract. But contracts are going to go up over time.
Speaker 2: You get paid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, you know what everybody says
Speaker 3: when he's on your team. He's a great team guy.
Speaker 3: They all love him. Sure, he's one of those guys
Speaker 3: you hate to go against him. But Phoenix has been
Speaker 3: charm and soft. They've been soft as heck over the
Speaker 3: last couple of years. You need that toughness. You need
Speaker 3: something ever since mckel bridges left, ever since you got
Speaker 3: rid of that core. And again I would do that
Speaker 3: trade on hundred percent every time, but other things played out.
Speaker 3: You lost that toughness. You get the tenth overall pick.
Speaker 3: I think that's a bonus. I like Carter Bryant with
Speaker 3: that before Hick before well they still have their pick,
Speaker 3: the twenty ninth pain. So now you have two picks.
Speaker 3: You get five second round draft picks, and I think
Speaker 3: that's where you kind of lose me. You should have
Speaker 3: been able to at least get one of your draft
Speaker 3: picks back from Houston, so I would have wanted to
Speaker 3: first round draft picks. So this tenth pick and a
Speaker 3: future first but other than that, you have five second
Speaker 3: round picks, which you could maybe trade up and get
Speaker 3: into the first round. Late in that first round.
Speaker 2: I thought they came out with the steal and Durant's old, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's he had a pretty good year this year.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Houston will be pretty good. Well well,
Speaker 2: I mean, are they done? Probably not.
Speaker 3: So the one of the rumors out there is are
Speaker 3: they going to be able to pair Giannis and Durant
Speaker 3: in Houston? And does that work out? Because and is
Speaker 3: that even.
Speaker 2: Think about it?
Speaker 3: With him, he's just he's just a diva. It's just
Speaker 3: it's just to pair anybody with him. Did you see
Speaker 3: did you see the interview after he got traded, because
Speaker 3: he was on a podcast during that Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: some of the reporter asked him about the trade and
Speaker 3: your thoughts on leaving Phoenix. He goes, well, the fans
Speaker 3: really didn't want me anyway. They're getting tired of me,
Speaker 3: so now they got what they wanted. Bye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well here's that dude, because he has there's burner,
Speaker 2: he pays the stuff. Just just play.
Speaker 3: I mean, I worry about it.
Speaker 2: You pay me fifty one millions. I don't even need
Speaker 2: to say hello.
Speaker 3: You could You could go out right now and tweet
Speaker 3: at him, and he'll respond, oh yeah, yeah, which makes
Speaker 3: no sense. Yeah, it makes no sense.
Speaker 5: I mean, what else are you gonna do? You know,
Speaker 5: you're thirty seven in the off season under game.
Speaker 2: Who's that guy on tweeting meat?
Speaker 8: There?
Speaker 3: But no, I think I think Jalen Green is a
Speaker 3: good piece, and I think you could either keep Dylan
Speaker 3: Brooks or flip them. Potentially. I think it's better if
Speaker 3: they flipped. Okay, let's go, we go. What do we got, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we can go for seventeen. Who do we have? Ryan Well,
Speaker 3: Brian Peterson. Yeah, that'll be that'll be interesting.
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to One in the Ball here Fox
Speaker 2: Sports feteen fifty m. Steve river your Troy Hutchison from
Speaker 2: Gooisey Cats. Now we have Brian Peterson from Azy Desert Swarm. Brian,
Speaker 2: how are you good?
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2: Sure sure. Let me say this, it was probably a
Speaker 2: matter of when, not if, right about.
Speaker 7: Chip with the contract extension, Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's something
Speaker 7: that had to get done going into the final year
Speaker 7: of his deal. Now, there are a lot of coaches
Speaker 7: at Arizona that are in that situation, so there should
Speaker 7: be other extensions coming soon for other coaches. But when
Speaker 7: you're coming off a trip to the World Series, and
Speaker 7: that's just the perfect time to do it, either during
Speaker 7: or right after. So I'm not surprised that it came
Speaker 7: at this point, you know.
Speaker 3: Looking at the run that they were able to have,
Speaker 3: and we had you on the show, I believe right
Speaker 3: before the College World Series and you're saying Arizona will
Speaker 3: have success if the pitching staff holds up, they're able
Speaker 3: to do that. And I know, you know themes played
Speaker 3: in the eighth ennying that nobody realized what was going
Speaker 3: to happen. But how impressed were you guys like Bailey,
Speaker 3: Smith and others in that rotation.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, The starting pitching had been struggled in the
Speaker 7: previous series, the first two games in North Carolina the
Speaker 7: Super Regional, So to have Owenkrankowski and Smith Bailey put
Speaker 7: up the starts that they did, they put Arizona in
Speaker 7: position in both of those games. Those starters left the
Speaker 7: games with the lead, and the bullpen had been a
Speaker 7: strength all season. This team had not lost a game
Speaker 7: that it was leading or tied after six innings all season,
Speaker 7: and then it happened both of those games. You know,
Speaker 7: you could call it regression to the mean, you could
Speaker 7: call it just you know, law of averages. But they
Speaker 7: the thing that hadn't happened to them all year happened
Speaker 7: in those two games, and that's why they were done
Speaker 7: so quickly.
Speaker 2: What was the mood like after the first two up
Speaker 2: to the first loss and then the second loss? So
Speaker 2: was the you know, is it different than basketball is
Speaker 2: because baseball is always different.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean because of the fact that it's a
Speaker 7: double elimination tournament. You have the ability to bounce back
Speaker 7: after a loss, and they had shown so many times
Speaker 7: during the season the ability to do that, including in
Speaker 7: the Super Regionals, So there was a feeling of, hey,
Speaker 7: we've been through this before, we can bounce back from it.
Speaker 7: There were some concerns that because of how painful that
Speaker 7: first loss was, it wasn't a blowout, the one that
Speaker 7: they were leading and then it fell apart at the end,
Speaker 7: how they would handle that. But then the next game
Speaker 7: they start out they're up to nothing. They made too
Speaker 7: many mistakes along the way to they didn't give themselves
Speaker 7: enough of a margin of er.
Speaker 3: At the end.
Speaker 7: And then after that second game, I mean, there's devastation
Speaker 7: because suddenly it's all over. But I think that once
Speaker 7: they got over that initial pain, they still were able
Speaker 7: to reflect on how big of a season this was overall.
Speaker 2: I talked to Michael Love for sure, maybe somebody else too.
Speaker 2: But when you were most of all, if not all
Speaker 2: games for Arizona, then if you were a fan, how
Speaker 2: difficult was it to follow them? Because it seemed like
Speaker 2: in the eighth or ninety and no lead was safe.
Speaker 2: They didn't score enough runs for you one and then
Speaker 2: who knew, at least in the last month that I
Speaker 2: started paying attention, it was like, holy crap, you don't
Speaker 2: know if that's enough, especially in the playoffs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that the offense was not as good
Speaker 7: as expected, whether it be some injuries but just overall cohesiveness.
Speaker 7: They weren't a team that was going to be regularly
Speaker 7: scoring eight to ten runs a game. They were a
Speaker 7: team that was going to find themselves in close games.
Speaker 7: But they hadn't lost a game that was decided by
Speaker 7: one run since the season opener, so they'd been able
Speaker 7: to handle those pressure situations. I think if you had
Speaker 7: been watching all along, it's stressful, but it also you'd
Speaker 7: known that this team had been built to be able
Speaker 7: to win those close games, and which is what made
Speaker 7: it so surprising both those losses, especially since it happened
Speaker 7: in the eighth inning of both, and both of them
Speaker 7: were pretty much implosions, especially at the second one.
Speaker 3: I think we talked about this Steve and I with
Speaker 3: Michael lev during after everything, But obviously Summer Hill, a
Speaker 3: tremendous player, had a great career at Arizona, but during
Speaker 3: that postseason, all the injuries that he sustained throughout the
Speaker 3: season seemed to maybe be taking a pull on him
Speaker 3: offensively up there at the plate, and obviously when you're
Speaker 3: going through a slump, that's another factor as well. Do
Speaker 3: you think there was ever a time where Arizona maybe
Speaker 3: he should have maybe mixed things up in the lineup
Speaker 3: at the College World Series. I know it's hard to
Speaker 3: do that in those moments, though.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't have taken him out of the lineup
Speaker 7: because I think he still provides so much value with
Speaker 7: drawing walks and his ability to put pressure on the
Speaker 7: bases and all that. He wasn't hitting as well. He
Speaker 7: just didn't have that whole power that he had had
Speaker 7: before he was hurt. Where I might have looked at
Speaker 7: trying to take him out of the outfield and make
Speaker 7: him be the DH and have Andrew Kane, who'd been DH,
Speaker 7: handle right field because he had filled in in the
Speaker 7: outfield at times when Summer Hill was out. But I
Speaker 7: think it was just a matter of they wanted to
Speaker 7: go with the guys who were there, and that I
Speaker 7: guess they just didn't feel that on the defensive side
Speaker 7: it had as much of an impact. But it's weird.
Speaker 7: It never looked like he was able to really get
Speaker 7: a good jump on a lot of the balls to
Speaker 7: him in right field after he got injured, And I
Speaker 7: don't know if that was because he didn't want to
Speaker 7: take too hard of a first step and reinjure. You know,
Speaker 7: I can't speak for somebody injury wise how they feel
Speaker 7: about not wanting to get hurt, especially when you are
Speaker 7: a couple months away from signing a seven figure deal
Speaker 7: as a signing bonus after getting drafted, but it was
Speaker 7: pretty evident that there was something missing from him there.
Speaker 2: Let's switch to basketball. Outside of Tommy Lloyd freaking out
Speaker 2: when I didn't like Sonora Dogs and him kind of
Speaker 2: messing with me when I said that Caleb Love hasn't
Speaker 2: been listed in any lists and he him saying that
Speaker 2: he's going to play in the NBA.
Speaker 3: What do you think I mean?
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised. I've seen that he's starting to
Speaker 7: slightly move up some of these draft boards.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he'll get drafted.
Speaker 7: If someone would really have to want to take a
Speaker 7: flyer in the second round, maybe if it's a team
Speaker 7: that has three or four picks through trades, that they
Speaker 7: might want to take a flyer. But he's going to
Speaker 7: get a summer league invite somewhere, and that seems like
Speaker 7: a place where he could really really thrive too, because
Speaker 7: he's playing with like minded players who are trying to
Speaker 7: get on those spots. And I wouldn't It wouldn't surprise
Speaker 7: me at all to see him be in someone's camp
Speaker 7: and then end up being on their G League team
Speaker 7: this year.
Speaker 2: That I don't disagree with. Yeah, No, I agree, And
Speaker 2: that's a big difference of being on this roster at
Speaker 2: the end of NBA level.
Speaker 3: Well, we've seen with not only Tommy's guys, but Sean
Speaker 3: Miller's guys as well, them get that summer league invite,
Speaker 3: have a tremendous summer league all of a sudden they're
Speaker 3: in the league. Treer kind of similar. But obviously he's
Speaker 3: out of the league now, but that summer league invite
Speaker 3: is so important for these players.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I don't see any reason why he wouldn't
Speaker 7: end up on someone's summer league roster just for the
Speaker 7: simple fact that you've got you need guys and you're
Speaker 7: going to be playing a bunch of games in a
Speaker 7: short period of time. And while that you do have
Speaker 7: some of your existing players there that you want to
Speaker 7: see what they can do, you pretty much have an
Speaker 7: idea about them. You really are trying to find that
Speaker 7: twelve thirteen fourteen guy on your roster and also building
Speaker 7: the depths in the minors, and that's where he can
Speaker 7: get that opportunity. And if he has a couple big games,
Speaker 7: then he might start out on a roster and be
Speaker 7: one of those you know, last on the bench guys,
Speaker 7: or if they really feel like they want to develop
Speaker 7: him more than and playing a lot of minutes, and
Speaker 7: he'd be down in.
Speaker 3: The G League. Yeah. You know, one thing that was
Speaker 3: mentioned during Tommy Lloyd's press conference, and I don't think
Speaker 3: really was focused on that much from Tommy, was is
Speaker 3: this going to be the final roster the world? There'd
Speaker 3: be another edition. They do have room for, I believe
Speaker 3: one more edition. But he said yes, yeah, he said, well,
Speaker 3: he said they're always looking stuff like that. But I mean,
Speaker 3: when you get to this point of this of the
Speaker 3: off season, it's kind of hard to find that piece
Speaker 3: that you want to bring in at this point, correct correct.
Speaker 7: I mean he's got technically he's got room for three
Speaker 7: guys because they've got twelve on there plus the walk on.
Speaker 7: That all three of the walk ons would be ones
Speaker 7: that could count above the cap because of the the
Speaker 7: NCAA House Settlement ruling with designating student athletes above the number,
Speaker 7: So they do have some room there, But I mean,
Speaker 7: there's not really anybody left in the portal that is
Speaker 7: of any sort of value. And unless there were like
Speaker 7: a coaching change that happened and someone went in the
Speaker 7: portal that they could grab, they'd really just be adding
Speaker 7: like either another international player or maybe some sort of
Speaker 7: like a junior college or prep player. But again, it
Speaker 7: would be from a development standpoint, And you wonder how
Speaker 7: much more development guys you want when you're already going
Speaker 7: to have seven freshmen on the team, and that's assuming
Speaker 7: that the player from Germany ends up coming over. He
Speaker 7: hasn't signed yet, but you just I don't know how
Speaker 7: much you're going to have room for guys that aren't
Speaker 7: going to play a lot.
Speaker 2: Right Well, he's in Switzerland now, who knows, and he's
Speaker 2: playing against some pretty good players, so who knows what
Speaker 2: you'll see from Tommy I will see what happens with him.
Speaker 2: What else softball? I know you don't cover it all
Speaker 2: the time, but your your site does. What do you
Speaker 2: think about Caitlin's situation given that Chip just signed his.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean should be getting a contract extension in
Speaker 7: my opinion. I mean, I know that people expect World
Speaker 7: Series every year, but that's becoming harder and harder in
Speaker 7: college softball with the investment from other conferences. And I
Speaker 7: think Arizona still wants to be one of the premier programs,
Speaker 7: so that is an expectation and a hope each year.
Speaker 7: But I think maybe giving her a couple extra years,
Speaker 7: just adding on to it for security purposes. I know
Speaker 7: that when I've spoken with desire Read transfois the athletic director,
Speaker 7: she is more of the belief that there isn't so
Speaker 7: much of a need to do that because college sports
Speaker 7: have become a year by year transactional thing that a
Speaker 7: long contract doesn't really have as much of an impact
Speaker 7: on recruiting. But I think there's still something to be
Speaker 7: said for rewarding a coach for what they have been
Speaker 7: able to do and the amount of money it would
Speaker 7: cost if you needed to buy out a contract like
Speaker 7: that for a sport like softball is not very large.
Speaker 7: This isn't like giving This isn't like giving Brent Brennan
Speaker 7: an extension right now and then having to pay him after,
Speaker 7: you know, if they fire him another year into it
Speaker 7: or something, or even you know, Heaven forbid Tommy Lloyd
Speaker 7: and all that.
Speaker 3: Those are different.
Speaker 7: But but the smaller sports, I don't see there's I
Speaker 7: don't think it costs you very much to an extent.
Speaker 2: So you've been you mentioned that at least twice in
Speaker 2: this conversation in the last two hours. Right, surely so
Speaker 2: did he? Did she say that to a group of
Speaker 2: you guys or just individuals?
Speaker 3: No, I forget where I saw. I saw it somewhere,
Speaker 3: and I forget where. It might have been Brian that
Speaker 3: put it out on Socialeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it might have actually been Michael who wrote about it.
Speaker 7: But what Michael and I Michael left and I kind
Speaker 7: of cornered her when we were in Chapel Hill for
Speaker 7: the Super regionals and uh, you know, asking about Caitlin
Speaker 7: and asking about Chip and she had said that when
Speaker 7: there's something to announce, then it will be announced. But
Speaker 7: that I had asked about going into the final year
Speaker 7: of a contract and being having that security of knowing
Speaker 7: that you're beyond that. And she said, I've never talked
Speaker 7: to a recruit who cared about the contract status of
Speaker 7: their coach. That may be true, but parents, I think,
Speaker 7: do feel a different way, and that they want to
Speaker 7: know that the person that they're entrusting their kid too
Speaker 7: is going to be around more than one year. So
Speaker 7: I think there is value in having that. And again,
Speaker 7: if not that much money, that it would really make
Speaker 7: much of a difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 2: I've never heard that before from anybody, saying that, you know,
Speaker 2: you want to be more secure with who you're going
Speaker 2: to be playing for, But you're right, and it goes
Speaker 2: And that's kind of like assuming that the player said
Speaker 2: player signs and then leaves up for one year to
Speaker 2: somewhere else.
Speaker 7: Sure, and in all the sports now, I mean, everything
Speaker 7: is essentially a one year contract for all the players
Speaker 7: unless they sign some sort of a deal beyond that.
Speaker 7: But I believe even those have buyouts in them if
Speaker 7: players want to leave, which is how you probably should
Speaker 7: do it to prevent somebody from leaving after they've signed something,
Speaker 7: just like you would with a coach. So I just
Speaker 7: think while it's become a year by year thing, you
Speaker 7: do want to try to lock in people that you
Speaker 7: want to keep so that you don't give them incentive
Speaker 7: to want to look elsewhere.
Speaker 3: Sure, you know, as we kind of talked about it
Speaker 3: with baseball wrapping up the year, one thing that we
Speaker 3: forgot to mention is that Arizona will be looking for
Speaker 3: a new pitching coach with Kevin Vans taking the San
Speaker 3: Diego State head coaching job after the tremendous job he
Speaker 3: did here in Tucson. When you look at the pitching
Speaker 3: coaching situation and potential names out there, who comes to
Speaker 3: mind and what kind of lists do you have in
Speaker 3: mind at this point?
Speaker 7: Well, I'm pretty sure that the job has already been filled.
Speaker 7: The position is still listed on the website for an
Speaker 7: assistant coach for baseball, and I think that might be
Speaker 7: by state law it has to be open for a
Speaker 7: certain amount of time. But all indications are that John
Speaker 7: de Ruin, who had been the director of pitching Performance
Speaker 7: and Strategy essentially the assistant pitching coach, is going to
Speaker 7: be elevated to the pitching coach, and he was just
Speaker 7: as involved and just as valuable to what's happened in
Speaker 7: pitching here as Kevin Vance and he's stuck around. He's
Speaker 7: not going with San Diego State, so he would be
Speaker 7: in line to take that position, And from players and
Speaker 7: parents that I've talked to who like on the pitching side,
Speaker 7: him sticking around, along with another guy named Owen Cuff,
Speaker 7: who was another pitching strategist who would probably then be
Speaker 7: the assistant pitching coach. Those two sticking around has made
Speaker 7: it so that I don't see any of their notable pitchers,
Speaker 7: especially a guy like Kramkowski or Smith Bailey, going anywhere.
Speaker 7: And there's still ten days left in the portal, but
Speaker 7: Arizona has not lost one player of any significance to
Speaker 7: the portal. The only guys that have left have been
Speaker 7: bench players or players who just didn't play at all.
Speaker 7: So I think that just speaks to the continuity that
Speaker 7: they've been able to keep here, and Vance leaving had
Speaker 7: the potential to affect that. But I think to Ruin
Speaker 7: and Cuff sticking around is going to mean that these
Speaker 7: pitchers are still going to be here next year.
Speaker 2: So maybe final question we had lev on maybe before
Speaker 2: the tournament or right right before, and we talked about
Speaker 2: because he didn't go, you were able to get there?
Speaker 2: Did you sit in on the LSU press conference? Did
Speaker 2: you have time?
Speaker 3: I know you were delayed.
Speaker 7: I didn't go to the one before the tournament, but
Speaker 7: I did go to one of the ones after the tournament,
Speaker 7: and like during one of the postgame ones, and Ezra Amaker,
Speaker 7: who's also on staff, was there beyond the time that
Speaker 7: I was there and attended a couple others. And I mean,
Speaker 7: it is interesting hearing Jay Johnson's talk when speaking just
Speaker 7: in general, because he's so insightful about everything with baseball.
Speaker 3: But it is funny.
Speaker 7: There were a couple of times he had made mentions
Speaker 7: of Arizona, either in a postgame press conference or whatnot,
Speaker 7: one of which was after they had their game that
Speaker 7: was suspended on one night and then finished the next day.
Speaker 7: He was asked what he's learned about going through so
Speaker 7: many weather delays while with LSU, and he said, if
Speaker 7: there's one thing I'd learned, it's that the best weather
Speaker 7: in college baseball is in Tucson, because he didn't really
Speaker 7: have that situation here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the one question is nobody asked him. I
Speaker 2: think Lev had it in the queue for Facebook, you know,
Speaker 2: talk about his time here to and why he left,
Speaker 2: or just that uncomfortable feeling a poil left.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think if it had gotten to the
Speaker 7: point where, I mean, certainly if they had played each other,
Speaker 7: then that was going to have to come up. And
Speaker 7: it really didn't the opportunity to ask something like that
Speaker 7: after a game against some other team just it wasn't fitting.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean I think that if I would imagine,
Speaker 7: his answer would be something about how much he really
Speaker 7: loved and had what he wanted to do there, but
Speaker 7: he couldn't pass up on the opportunity to be at
Speaker 7: a program like LSU. And there was also shown i
Speaker 7: mean true titles in his first four years. That's the
Speaker 7: fastest anybody's ever done that. Previously it had been eight years,
Speaker 7: and one of the people that did that was Jerry
Speaker 7: Kendall at Arizona. So I Jay made the right move
Speaker 7: for what he wanted to accomplish, and at this pace,
Speaker 7: he's going to go down if he continues as one
Speaker 7: of the greatest coaches in college baseball history.
Speaker 2: The last question just related to him. Obviously, he's done
Speaker 2: a great job. I asked this so Michael, because I
Speaker 2: didn't cover baseball. What is his secret, sauce? How does
Speaker 2: he get his guys to play hard?
Speaker 3: Pri him?
Speaker 7: Jay Johnson, Yeah, you know that man lives and breathes
Speaker 7: college baseball and everything is about it. Like he's married
Speaker 7: and he has he may.
Speaker 3: Have other interests.
Speaker 7: I don't know, but it's all about baseball, Like he's
Speaker 7: constantly talking about it, and he's he's looking at plans
Speaker 7: and figuring out what he's going to be doing for
Speaker 7: these guys, not just now but in the future along
Speaker 7: with I think at Arizona he had to try to
Speaker 7: get these guys to come here even though they were
Speaker 7: going to get drafted, and he ran into the case
Speaker 7: multiple times of a player he would identify as a
Speaker 7: freshman er, sophomore in college who would then blow up
Speaker 7: and they get drafted in the first round and there's
Speaker 7: no way they're going to pass up that money. At LSU,
Speaker 7: he's managed to because they have more resources be able
Speaker 7: to get a lot of those guys to stay go
Speaker 7: to college and then after two three years, like a
Speaker 7: guy like Kate Anderson who through that complete game in
Speaker 7: the first game of the championship series, He's a guy
Speaker 7: that should have signed out of high school. But Jay
Speaker 7: was able to convince him, come here for two years
Speaker 7: and you're going to be like one of the top
Speaker 7: five picks. And sure enough, that's what ended up happening.
Speaker 7: I think he's just he's very good at motivating and
Speaker 7: getting people to see that he shares the vision of
Speaker 7: what they can be and how far they can come.
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense. Okay, thanks Brian, appreciate your time.
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me, guys, Brian.
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Speaker 5: Man, what a summer.
Speaker 2: Huh, It's be a long summer. I'm be coming of June.
Speaker 2: I'll be won't be here next week. I'm going out
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Speaker 3: Tomorrow.
Speaker 2: They're pretty good. They're pretty good. Sugar Schools one. Over
Speaker 2: the weekend. You didn't know that they want to beat
Speaker 2: Northern Arizona. So now they beat Northern Arizona and Phoenix Phoenix. Yep,
Speaker 2: something's going on with that team. So we talk to
Speaker 2: done this weekend as well. What else anything that Brian
Speaker 2: said that struck you just the.
Speaker 3: Thing about the pitching coach. I mean, it makes sense
Speaker 3: to promote from what NF you have success and you know,
Speaker 3: yes he helped out in the analytical role and stuff
Speaker 3: like that in terms of that, but let's see how
Speaker 3: it translates to him being a pitching coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, there's different. Yeah, there's different. It's like moving over,
Speaker 2: you know, the seats assistant the head coach. Let me
Speaker 2: ask you to. So now it makes sense. It's what
Speaker 2: you were talking about with the contracts of being more yearly,
Speaker 2: which kind of still doesn't kind of make sense, doesn't
Speaker 2: feel right, but it does for the lower paid coaches. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you don't have to pay him a lot of
Speaker 2: money in case he leave or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're talking about contracts on average, but like
Speaker 3: maybe five hundred at most. And then you look at
Speaker 3: sports like soccer, swimming, golf, like, I'm sure it's not
Speaker 3: probably over one hundred thousand, but not much.
Speaker 2: Totally different game than when I used to do it
Speaker 2: when I was younger. I don't feel old, but I
Speaker 2: guess I'm really old when it goes to this, because
Speaker 2: it's just a new game. You know, stories change, We'll
Speaker 2: see what happens. Brendan gets his guys here in about
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 3: In the July, and the July, some of them are
Speaker 3: already on campus. Jayden Bradley is on campus right now
Speaker 3: working out.
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm talking about Brent.
Speaker 3: Oh, Brent, Oh, my bad Brennan. Yes. And the July again,
Speaker 3: some of them are already on campus doing team workouts
Speaker 3: and stuff, but gearing up for training camp. And then
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a lot of those incoming freshmen that
Speaker 3: weren't here for spring football, seeing how that impacts the team.
Speaker 3: A lot of offensive linement in that recruiting so.
Speaker 2: Many how many twenty something twenty people total about like
Speaker 2: you know, how twenty seven. How you think we'll actually
Speaker 2: play the freshman Yeah, five, six, maybe ten, maybe it's
Speaker 2: pretty ten maybe ten.
Speaker 3: It's a lot. It's a lot. I mean you look
Speaker 3: at that offensive line and when it's banned up already.
Speaker 3: Uh too, it wasn't very good last year. He brought
Speaker 3: in some transfers. So so out of all those freshmen
Speaker 3: on the offensive line, if somebody stands out, they're gonna play. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You saw it with Jonas alvin Ale when he stepped
Speaker 3: foot on campus. Right away. It was like, oh, that
Speaker 3: guy's a starter. I think his first game AGA in
Speaker 3: San Diego. Say, he had a little trouble, he got
Speaker 3: tired out with the heat was very hot that day
Speaker 3: and he couldn't play the fourth quarter. But after that
Speaker 3: he was a star Wars there at you know, guard
Speaker 3: and tackle for Arizona. I never barely missed games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, remember that game is San Diego was really hot. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so that's good for them. I'm gonna be talking to
Speaker 2: Brennan here for a story here not too long from now.
Speaker 2: And he was great when we had him on. You
Speaker 2: got him on and he was fantastic that day kind
Speaker 2: of Have you talked to him anymore about your barbecue contest?
Speaker 3: No? Not, Yeah, we got to do that though.
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Speaker 5: That was still one of the funniest interviews to me.
Speaker 3: Which Brendan yeah, because he cussed.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I thought it was so funny that he was
Speaker 4: like so caught off guard that he like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Well that's that's the kind of guy that
Speaker 2: we want to know, you know, that's the people. That's
Speaker 2: the guy that people don't know.
Speaker 3: They don't want the button up person that's very straightforward.
Speaker 2: And even if he's buttoned up just to show some
Speaker 2: signs of not life, but signs of being one of
Speaker 2: the dudes. And even though he is one of the dudes,
Speaker 2: because he's not. He's not Macovict, right, and he's not
Speaker 2: Jed Jed was I don't know, Jenna was selling.
Speaker 3: You stuff that's different on the field than he was
Speaker 3: in a press conference.
Speaker 2: And Brandon's not that. He's just kind of like okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he wasn't in the interview.
Speaker 3: Most of the time. He feels like a happy, go
Speaker 3: lucky guy like whatever. Yeah, people want to see more
Speaker 3: than that. They don't want to see that. They don't
Speaker 3: want to see the nonchalant, right, and he is different.
Speaker 2: You ask you come on, yeah, show some fire. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. I mean, I think he learned
Speaker 2: a lot this first year, especially here. And I also
Speaker 2: think that the does party set some standards you have
Speaker 2: to yeah.
Speaker 3: And no question and again for him, she didn't hire you,
Speaker 3: right if he hired you, so standards and there's the well,
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't hire this guys, so why do
Speaker 3: I care? I want to get my guy in there. Sure,
Speaker 3: but you know, I think it would have been not
Speaker 3: easy necessarily financially given areas under his financial situation, But
Speaker 3: it would have been easy for an athletic director to
Speaker 3: be like, you know what, by I'll just get my guy.
Speaker 3: But that speaks volumes on what type of person Brennan is,
Speaker 3: where you already have somewhat of a good relationship with
Speaker 3: the direction of just personalness.
Speaker 2: Sure, no, no, No, that there goes. That goes a
Speaker 2: long way, and we'll see how long it goes. If
Speaker 2: you go four and eight again.
Speaker 3: Or whatever, then there's a problem. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 3: think you're looking at five to seven win mark this upcoming.
Speaker 2: They have to at least at least so here we
Speaker 2: go in about a month, they'll get that going sort
Speaker 2: of late June.
Speaker 3: And for Noah, let's be honest, and he's been very
Speaker 3: honest about it. The coaching stuff, has been honest about it.
Speaker 3: He had that tremendous red shirt freshman year last year.
Speaker 3: It was bad. It was bad, and not all that
Speaker 3: was on him. Obviously, the line was bad. Not a
Speaker 3: lot of weapons outside of Debtoro McMillan and things start
Speaker 3: to pile up. But throughout the season there are plenty
Speaker 3: of times where like you missed the wide open guy,
Speaker 3: or you didn't even see that guy, or you waited
Speaker 3: too long on that one and that comes back on
Speaker 3: the quarterback. So you know, new offense that's going to
Speaker 3: help out, sure, hopefully, but you got to prove this
Speaker 3: is almost like a proven year for not only Brennan
Speaker 3: but Noah as well.
Speaker 2: So I think we've we've you and I have talked
Speaker 2: about this. The gods right back, baseball, football, gods, football guds.
Speaker 2: That season that brought that jet had. I think sometimes
Speaker 2: things just work out that way, right, they had a
Speaker 2: good season. He finally relinquished the job to to Noah
Speaker 2: or he got the job. Well, you know, whatever we
Speaker 2: do happen. He had to do it and it turned
Speaker 2: out to be what it was, and then he leaves.
Speaker 2: Things just worked out weird sometimes sometimes Troy, you get
Speaker 2: the girl without you, without you know, without you having
Speaker 2: to work your ass off to get the girl. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Just didn't work out that way.
Speaker 2: And now a year later, it didn't work out that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, some things go right, recruiting.
Speaker 2: Goes well right, and everything did that year.
Speaker 3: I mean they It wasn't like rich Rod's ten and
Speaker 3: ten and four season, where you know, you get a
Speaker 3: bounce here, a lucky play here the hill Mary happened
Speaker 3: that year. The kick against Washington where they should have
Speaker 3: just ran out the football and they built the ball
Speaker 3: and they fumbled the ball. A lot of things went
Speaker 3: right for Arizona ones. Noah took over and really played. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they dominated teams, They were dominant. They were a legitimately
Speaker 3: good team. So things work out. But that was a
Speaker 3: very good, well rounded team. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and almost in spite of themselves, because again
Speaker 2: he didn't want to relinquish.
Speaker 3: And if you don't that Arizona teams goes six and six,
Speaker 3: it doesn't turn out the way it does. Guess who's
Speaker 3: still the coach? Maybe what?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, But here's my thing, And it could have been
Speaker 3: a worse situation for Arizona. Remember U c l A
Speaker 3: opened up late after chip Kelly left. He's a California guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know if.
Speaker 6: He had already been at u c l A too,
Speaker 6: But would of coordinator, would you Rey hire.
Speaker 2: Mean, if he was mediocre here, if the situation were different,
Speaker 2: so you.
Speaker 3: Would have if you would hire a running back coach
Speaker 3: that has never had coordinating decision like U C l A.
Speaker 3: They made they made mistakes. Well and I know it's
Speaker 3: an alumni, but I'm just saying, if Jed was still
Speaker 3: at Arizona chip Ley's when he does, let's say they
Speaker 3: hired Jed, you're probably getting off of you know, you're
Speaker 3: probably getting You're getting all those kids because they're Southern
Speaker 3: California kids.
Speaker 2: Well again, timing in circumstances, if you and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But like that's why this place.
Speaker 2: Uh, we've found lightning in the bottle for a nice
Speaker 2: year and here we are. Yeah, and then didn't the
Speaker 2: next year. Sometimes the god says, here you go. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, you got to give it back to me,
Speaker 2: give me the keys the car I just gave him
Speaker 2: to You only had it for a while, right, you
Speaker 2: gotta go uber again, use somebody else's car.
Speaker 3: Don't have been sure. Okay, we're good most about a
Speaker 3: minute or so. Yeah, we're pretty good.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thanks, I'll see you Thursday, see you next
Speaker 2: next week. We'll see we might have a football player,
Speaker 2: trying to get a fall player.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been trying to get Desiree. I've been trying
Speaker 2: to get to the basketball coach coach Burke too, So we'll
Speaker 2: see what happens with that. It's such a dying time
Speaker 2: right now in the summer. Everyone's out doing their thing
Speaker 2: and everybody and coaches are on vacation. This is their
Speaker 2: vacation time.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm gonna leave for a week. Okay, guys,
Speaker 2: thank you very much.
Speaker 3: We'll see you.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling, guys, Vic and everybody else appreciate you.