Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen. What?
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: How do folks your hosts Double Jay, hosts of Operation
Speaker 4: gc D. Welcome to another Fridays here with Nick host
Speaker 4: Do you call rejects?
Speaker 5: Nick?
Speaker 2: I don't, buddy, what's going on? So I'm doing good?
Speaker 5: Good, that's only doing well? Doing well? How you doing?
Speaker 2: Rolling up? We'll be doing great soon.
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Speaker 4: Nice, We got our guys headless, giant headless. How you doing,
Speaker 4: my buddy, I'm doing great.
Speaker 1: Another Fridays. I love joining you guys. I'm sorry I
Speaker 1: missed it on Wednesday. That sounded like a.
Speaker 5: Really worries we had.
Speaker 4: We had a good conversation. There was a couple of times.
Speaker 4: Did you did you get a chance to listen to it?
Speaker 1: Yes? I did.
Speaker 5: I'm sure you heard a couple of times.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, well, I wish Edlas was here a
Speaker 4: great comment on this subject.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm really looking forward to next Wednesday. You
Speaker 1: guys are having data Dodo.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, talking the intersection of the processed church in
Speaker 4: the society of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: That's so deep, you know, I mean, like the problem
Speaker 1: is is that you can always tell a new conspiracy
Speaker 1: guy versus an old conspiracy guy, because a new one
Speaker 1: is always going to say the New World Order, as
Speaker 1: if that's even a thing. You know, Processed Church, Society
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, all these other things. But you know you're
Speaker 1: never going to hear that New World Order crap because
Speaker 1: that's basically just a cover story. You know, they want
Speaker 1: you to fight the New World because it doesn't mean right.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I have problems with just obscure term knowledge.
Speaker 4: I like to define things. If we're gonna have a
Speaker 4: conversation about it, I prefer to have it, you know,
Speaker 4: have at least a definition of what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: So like in like the terms Illuminati or the terms
Speaker 4: like New World Order.
Speaker 5: Like that's great.
Speaker 4: I mean there's probably organizations I'll be happy to recognize
Speaker 4: that used to call themselves these things.
Speaker 5: Do are they relevant now? I don't know, Or these.
Speaker 4: Other groups part of some sort of modern dayest manifestation
Speaker 4: of those old old orders. Possibly, but I'm sure next
Speaker 4: seeing it just as much as I have, or you
Speaker 4: probably have as well, had lists there's always seemingly there's
Speaker 4: always these new occult organizations that want to claim lineage
Speaker 4: back to some time in the past. So they can
Speaker 4: somehow get some sort of more air of legitimacy, like,
Speaker 4: oh shit, we've been around since seventeen seventeen, you know
Speaker 4: that kind of tagline, right.
Speaker 1: And it's like the game of whack a mole never
Speaker 1: gets beyond the seventeen hundreds. When you talk about the
Speaker 1: Illuminati or the New World Order, you know, yeah, bring
Speaker 1: it up to the present, and the less you do that,
Speaker 1: what are you really doing?
Speaker 4: Well, There's here's one thing I like to talk about
Speaker 4: when folks prempty Illuminati and it never seems to be
Speaker 4: a conversation folks are willing to have, is that was
Speaker 4: the Crowley related resurgence, attempts to reignite the restart the Illuminati,
Speaker 4: the original Bavarian Illuminati situation there with the Golden Dawn
Speaker 4: in Germany.
Speaker 5: You know that Crowley was a part of.
Speaker 4: So there, you know, That's what I'm saying, Like, if
Speaker 4: there's any legitimacy of that conversation, I feel like that's
Speaker 4: the intersection of activity with people like Crowley, the Golden
Speaker 4: Dawn and trying to restart Weishop's Bavarian Illuminati concepts, which
Speaker 4: to my mind, a lot of it is because a
Speaker 4: lot of those concepts are mark Marxist concepts, right.
Speaker 1: But I think at the heart of the Illuminati thing
Speaker 1: is Whyshap's idea of the city state, right, And so
Speaker 1: he believed that you should bring back the city state idea,
Speaker 1: and we got that would should be you know, Washington, DC,
Speaker 1: City of London and the Vatican. So sure like the
Speaker 1: nation state, Well no, his city state idea was apart
Speaker 1: from the nation state. So the nation state should be
Speaker 1: responding to the city state. The city state would be
Speaker 1: in control of the nation state. And so that's what
Speaker 1: they did, is they is they made these hubs and
Speaker 1: they had all of their you know, lemmings and their
Speaker 1: their shysters come out of these hubs and go into
Speaker 1: these hubs. It's like the idea was to form a
Speaker 1: cult within a cult. They got that. So what are
Speaker 1: we doing today, Well, now it's far more personal. Now,
Speaker 1: it's far more about the individual and how to change
Speaker 1: minds from a person to person level. And we don't
Speaker 1: really have any kind of defense against that because we're
Speaker 1: all still talking about what happened in the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 4: Sure, and yeah, but even even any but again, any
Speaker 4: order even claiming lineage to that to that date, Like,
Speaker 4: I just you know, I have a hard time buying
Speaker 4: any of that. I mean, power changes in just in
Speaker 4: recent generations in America, you can see families and power shifting.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So like to believe that there hasn't been you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying organizations haven't existed since them, but they're not.
Speaker 4: Like there's no ILLUMINAI I just I don't think there's
Speaker 4: one overarching Illuminati organization right like that's been in power
Speaker 4: since then.
Speaker 1: In some ways there are, but in other ways there are.
Speaker 1: I think the idea of this Illuminati was was about
Speaker 1: putting an idea on top of everything else. And this
Speaker 1: is where we get this sort of sort of ideological
Speaker 1: bend to everything. Everything has to ascribe to some sort
Speaker 1: of ideology. You can never sort of take things on
Speaker 1: a case by case basis. So is it left wing?
Speaker 1: Is it right wing? Is it you know, conservative, liberal?
Speaker 1: All the rest of that stuff that really doesn't apply
Speaker 1: to what you actually want in your own life. You
Speaker 1: have to sort of have these three by five cards
Speaker 1: that have a list of your beliefs, and that makes
Speaker 1: you easy to manipulate. You know, if you think that
Speaker 1: you're going to get what you want by voting a Republican.
Speaker 1: You are sorely mistaken. But I think that's sort of
Speaker 1: the intersection between illuminism and what's his name, the guy
Speaker 1: who said, I disagree with what you say, but I
Speaker 1: will fight to the death for your right to say it. Voltaire.
Speaker 1: It's Voltairism and Illuminism that gives you sort of the
Speaker 1: Paris model of parliament with the right wing and the
Speaker 1: left wing and everything you could ever possibly want is
Speaker 1: supposed to be encompassed by the right wing or the
Speaker 1: left wing, and that all came out of the Illuminati
Speaker 1: kind of revolution in you know, in Paris, they didn't
Speaker 1: really have that before. You had to actually have things
Speaker 1: on a case by case basis, and once the left
Speaker 1: wing and the right wing came out, it was like, well,
Speaker 1: you have to be either one or the other. And
Speaker 1: from that moment.
Speaker 5: All are we talking here? What is this?
Speaker 1: Well, this is shortly after the French Revolution. They set
Speaker 1: up parliament a different sort of manner than what was
Speaker 1: done before, and that parliamentary system is what's over most
Speaker 1: of the world. We have kind of like a different
Speaker 1: idea of it. But they saw what America was doing
Speaker 1: and their parliamentary system, and they're like, we don't like
Speaker 1: these checks and balances so much. Let's let's make it
Speaker 1: a winner take all system, and let's only use the
Speaker 1: people who are kind of ancillary to these main families.
Speaker 1: And so the French, right, the French, and so there
Speaker 1: were a lot of a lot of these societies of
Speaker 1: Cincinnati types in that French system.
Speaker 4: That everything you're explaining right now is all very society
Speaker 4: since the name related, because even the King of France
Speaker 4: that was put in there, he was a member of
Speaker 4: the society. All these nobility guys in France were Marquis
Speaker 4: de Lafayett, the head, the head of the French society.
Speaker 4: He was obviously a French nobleman himself, right.
Speaker 1: But when they when they decided to combine the revolutionary
Speaker 1: movement with the secret society movement, that that was just,
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a revolution in itself
Speaker 1: because all they had to do is whip up these
Speaker 1: secret societies and then the public street had to pick sides.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's yeah, but I think I think there
Speaker 4: was a lot of internal turmoil in that too, a
Speaker 4: lot of you know, a lot of backstabbing if you will,
Speaker 4: a lot of turncoat and you have to.
Speaker 1: Have down because yeah, the most concreting and galvanizing effect
Speaker 1: you can have is to have two forces battling in
Speaker 1: your streets. You have to pick a side at that point.
Speaker 1: And so as long as you've got this long term
Speaker 1: societal turmoil where you've got the left representing one thing
Speaker 1: and the right representing another, people are going to have
Speaker 1: to pick a side. And it's like you're not represented
Speaker 1: by either one of these sides. But you have to
Speaker 1: think about your home, and you have to think about
Speaker 1: what's good for my family, and so you end up
Speaker 1: picking a side, even though this war is not something
Speaker 1: you started or had anything to do with. At least,
Speaker 1: the concepts that they're putting forward don't really mean anything.
Speaker 1: Is we can all tell at this point because it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what they promise, you're always going to get
Speaker 1: the worst thing that's on that three x five card
Speaker 1: of ideology.
Speaker 5: I mean that that is generally what history has shown us, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eventually everybody turns into Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 4: Right, sweet old sweet Shaggs, Lindsey Graham, dudes lighting the
Speaker 4: loafers a seeing someone light and Leffs, and so.
Speaker 5: I was saying Golden domic War with that dude. I'm
Speaker 5: meant he was the head of the OTO, Theodore Russ. Yes,
Speaker 5: he's the guy. He's the guy.
Speaker 4: That's Yeah, he's the guy to try to restart. So
Speaker 4: I'm saying there's an argument to be made that the
Speaker 4: Illuminati is anything. It is the Lima courtesy of this dude.
Speaker 2: Yep, who handed it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's when it was originally associated with masonry?
Speaker 5: Right? Was that was?
Speaker 2: That was that?
Speaker 5: What happened is that that went down?
Speaker 4: Enough about all those I just know that this is
Speaker 4: like a legitimate attempts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was a mason, and they started that if
Speaker 6: you were a mason, you could even let's say you
Speaker 6: were like a certain degree, you might equal already a
Speaker 6: certain degree in the OTO, and you didn't have to
Speaker 6: go through certain initiations.
Speaker 2: You can actually transfer over and stuff.
Speaker 5: Okay, yep, Now I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would assume it wouldn't go.
Speaker 5: From Morton right of masonry.
Speaker 2: It says right here, Oh okay, it.
Speaker 5: Says he got it said.
Speaker 4: Uh, he made friends with William Westcott, and Wescott gave
Speaker 4: him a charter for the this writer freemasonry something called
Speaker 4: the sweden Borg Right, does that sound correct.
Speaker 2: Nick, I've actually never heard of that one.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, that's that's that's what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's what the Wikipedia saying, the source of all knowledge
Speaker 4: on the interwebs.
Speaker 6: There's probably a lot of information about how it started
Speaker 6: prior to Crowley that I don't know about.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: Sure, Now this is uh, this is interesting though. I've
Speaker 4: never heard of this, this lodge of freemasonry either. But
Speaker 4: it seems to be associated with either the Golden Dawn
Speaker 4: or Rosicrucianism, because that's who this dude was ahead of.
Speaker 4: I don't know, this guy, William Westcott.
Speaker 6: That's interesting because I had said I do think that
Speaker 6: the OTO might actually be a Rosicrucian order, just label differently. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I've said that on the Occult Rejects on a topic
Speaker 6: me and Lisa Covid. I have thought that because to
Speaker 6: me it makes sense. I mean, you got Crawley going
Speaker 6: on about rolls all the time.
Speaker 5: Sure. Sure.
Speaker 1: If you look at the back of the the deck
Speaker 1: for the Crawley Thought Deck, it's it's got the Rosicruction
Speaker 1: logo right there, like that's they're just putting it out there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: That's interesting. Desert right, says Swedenborg's is from from the
Speaker 4: burned Ever district in upstate New York. Interesting, ser what
Speaker 4: what is that? What does that indicate to you?
Speaker 5: Then? On the on the on the cards of the
Speaker 5: Crawley deck there, what is that? Well, I mean it's conclusion.
Speaker 1: It's very clearly resecrutionism. And you know, Resicrucianism really got it.
Speaker 4: Uh, there's no one else to use. That's the symbols,
Speaker 4: but rosicutionism. That's kind of exclusive to them.
Speaker 1: Pretty much.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: They're an interesting bunch, aren't they.
Speaker 6: The rescrutionis another thing that I do find interesting is
Speaker 6: that a lot of people that Crowley was influenced by,
Speaker 6: they weren't considered rosicrusions, but apologists, like they were into
Speaker 6: rescrution and recrusionism and would promote it, but they claimed
Speaker 6: that they weren't one. And you know, just another reason
Speaker 6: why I do think, like believe it, and I do
Speaker 6: think the OTO is actually like a rosicrusion order. That's
Speaker 6: my opinion.
Speaker 5: That's interesting because.
Speaker 1: Ahead the idea of Rosicrucianism really uh took a final
Speaker 1: form in the term in in the form of Martin Luther.
Speaker 1: So Martin Luther's symbol before him for him, right before
Speaker 1: Martin Luther. Uh, there was rumors about Rosicrucianism and they
Speaker 1: would always speak hypothetically about it. Martin Luther's symbol, the
Speaker 1: one his seal that he puts on everything, is the
Speaker 1: symbol of the rescrucs. And his idea was, if we
Speaker 1: could separate the church from this total control grid that
Speaker 1: they have, then we can, you know, sort of get
Speaker 1: more of a foothold, right, and so he basically use
Speaker 1: the strife within. It wasn't Germany at the time. It
Speaker 1: was a bunch of different principalities. He used the strife
Speaker 1: there to sort of spread this Lutheranism and it's been
Speaker 1: going on to this day. The whole idea was political.
Speaker 1: Everybody who thinks Lutheranism had anything to do with spirituality
Speaker 1: is totally wrong. It was a political way of getting
Speaker 1: away from the Catholic Church, and it was supported by
Speaker 1: all the speculative rosicrutions. And you can actually see a
Speaker 1: lot of that in Pennsylvania. The head or the main
Speaker 1: hub of ro Secrucianism is if you go to soul
Speaker 1: dot org, which talks about this place in Pennsylvania where
Speaker 1: they have these pyramids and all sorts stuff. This is
Speaker 1: where they had the sixty eighth convocation, which is the
Speaker 1: only convocation that we have available to the public. But
Speaker 1: it was a meeting of the Freemasons, the Illuminati, the Rosicrusions,
Speaker 1: and several other groups that had at least sixty eight
Speaker 1: convocations secret meetings at this place in Pennsylvania. And if
Speaker 1: you look up the scene.
Speaker 4: I've ever heard of this, it's in Bucks County. Huh yeah, wow.
Speaker 4: I was showing pictures there of the Resicrucion National Headquarters
Speaker 4: in in museum in San Jose, California.
Speaker 5: I've been to. It's quite quite a structure in museum.
Speaker 4: It's the largest collection of Egyptian artifacts, ancient Egyptian artifacts
Speaker 4: in America.
Speaker 1: Right, that's Amork. They've got a sold out orgon am
Speaker 1: Ork sort of.
Speaker 2: It's like a mail order fucking come.
Speaker 1: On, yea mail order Rosicrucionism.
Speaker 6: Yo, you know what's funny. I shit you not to
Speaker 6: bring the guy up. But I think that's what Lux
Speaker 6: was in. I don't think he was actually in the
Speaker 6: gold I think he was in anymore. I think it
Speaker 6: was just embarrassing. What is that It's like a mail
Speaker 6: order like secret society. I mean it's I don't know,
Speaker 6: it's probably more of a scam really because like the
Speaker 6: pull the money out of your pockets and they don't
Speaker 6: even have a place for you.
Speaker 2: To go to I mean related to yeah, but I
Speaker 2: mean I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm not promoting anything, but I mean I'm sure this
Speaker 6: might be something to learn from them, but it's just
Speaker 6: you're not.
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, internet mail order type shit.
Speaker 5: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So this this buildings like just sits right across
Speaker 4: the street from a normal neighborhood in the middle of downtown,
Speaker 4: like just the middle of residential San Jose, California. It's
Speaker 4: the Rosicrucian National Headquarters in museum. That's the museum. This
Speaker 4: is their national headquarters, same property like backside of the building,
Speaker 4: and then inside it's just like you know, you may
Speaker 4: as well be inside, uh, you know somewhere in Egypt
Speaker 4: as much you really have that immercy of a feeling
Speaker 4: of the whole situation.
Speaker 1: God damn if you could have a mail order business
Speaker 1: like that producing that much wealth and that much prosperity
Speaker 1: to get all that inside of your your headquarters. You're
Speaker 1: really doing something either that or you know it's it's
Speaker 1: another money laundering operation.
Speaker 5: Well I'm sure it's a little both, right.
Speaker 6: Right, Well, no, it could be like even a place
Speaker 6: for you to store ship technically, right, you know, even
Speaker 6: like stolen goods for you know, let me put my
Speaker 6: ship in hand, you can just claim it's used and
Speaker 6: then when I give it and then when you take
Speaker 6: it back, you can take us.
Speaker 5: Right. So we went down to this, uh, we went
Speaker 5: down on this side again.
Speaker 4: So this there was this what's the difference between this
Speaker 4: the organization that met here and the organization that metens
Speaker 4: that has a place in San Jose.
Speaker 1: This one is much more ancient than aim work. So
Speaker 1: aim work allegedly, right, Well, amore got there back.
Speaker 4: To back to that thing of these modern organizations claiming
Speaker 4: ancient heritage, right like, so where did they where did
Speaker 4: these what's there's these guys' story right here? They're not
Speaker 4: you're saying, amork, that's the Americans cross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the this is a different one. It
Speaker 1: got started with this half black dude back in the
Speaker 1: uh early eighteen hundreds who claimed to be there. You know,
Speaker 1: uh white uh white college. You know, you've got the
Speaker 1: Black College and the white college. They claim to be
Speaker 1: the white college. And so what they did was they
Speaker 1: they gathered all these different politicians and all these different
Speaker 1: people and they they had these meetings at this place
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: So uh there and they're you know, as they're not
Speaker 4: known as Amork. This is this is the folks of
Speaker 4: from San Jose, right.
Speaker 1: Or is San Jose? That's the West coast.
Speaker 5: And who's the Pennsylvania group?
Speaker 1: I gotta look them up. But if you look up
Speaker 1: the Bucks County Pyramids, they should have a name for it.
Speaker 4: It's calling it Quaker Town. Oh, here we go, Frederernita
Speaker 4: Rose Crucius. So that one goes back to eighteen fifty eight.
Speaker 4: It says this one here says nineteen four, nineteen fifteen,
Speaker 4: but then it says Rosicrucian Research Society back to nineteen
Speaker 4: oh four.
Speaker 1: Right, that's when they I guess they.
Speaker 5: Changed their name. It's at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So nineteen sixteen is when they put out
Speaker 1: the sixty eighth convocation.
Speaker 4: And these guys, the East Coast Crew.
Speaker 1: And the East Coast Crew are the ones who made
Speaker 1: the Seal of the United States, and they're the ones
Speaker 1: who put the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill.
Speaker 1: That wasn't even that.
Speaker 5: Ra worship stuff that Christen Oles is covered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so.
Speaker 4: They were at Oh, Pascal Beverly Randolph. Okay, I know
Speaker 4: this dude. Yes, the guy introduced sex magic to America.
Speaker 1: There you go. Yep, that's the guy. So that that
Speaker 1: this is the Beverly Randolph. So it says nineteen ten
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 4: But just a cousin of mine, of the Virginia Randolph family.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 4: Jefferson would be a would be part of that same
Speaker 4: same same family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is much more East Coast, much
Speaker 1: more ancient. It probably goes back to when Pennsylvania had
Speaker 1: what was his name, the Monk in the Wilderness? What
Speaker 1: was his name? It was the first portrait, the first portrait.
Speaker 5: The Monk in the Wilderness, have you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was there was this guy who came over
Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania before the United States was a thing, and
Speaker 1: he started this Rosicrucian order in this canyon right outside
Speaker 1: of Philadelphia. It's part of the Parks and it was
Speaker 1: called the Order of the Woman in the wilderness and
Speaker 1: he was said to heal people using music, and so
Speaker 1: he's got he set up operation there and he started
Speaker 1: prophesying and making all all these different predictions in the early.
Speaker 5: Seventeen Woman of the Apocalypse.
Speaker 4: No that's not it, but he is part of the
Speaker 4: Woman in the Wilderness. Yeah, oh go ahead, I'm trying
Speaker 4: to find it.
Speaker 1: So he he starts this up, and uh, he looks
Speaker 1: like an alien. He's a straight up look a dude.
Speaker 5: Cave of Kelpius.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kelpius, that's his name. And so Kelpius starts this
Speaker 1: cult out there. If you look up the picture of Kelpius,
Speaker 1: you'll just love it. It looks Yeah, this is the
Speaker 1: first portrait that was in America though, so this is
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 5: A look at his.
Speaker 1: And so this guy is there doing his prophecy and
Speaker 1: he's starting all these other spawned cult groups. But he
Speaker 1: was definitely part of this kind of a Rosicrucion order.
Speaker 1: It's creep basically from this time. Uh, they started another
Speaker 1: order that actually laundered a bunch of money for George
Speaker 1: Washington in the Revolution. And this is where he's getting
Speaker 1: his French funding from is through this order. And so
Speaker 1: nice they were bankrolling this revolution through France through uh,
Speaker 1: these Rosicrucion orders that started like another monk colony in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: All right, so you're saying monks, are these Cistercians, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure because they're calling them the drunk monks. Those
Speaker 4: are those that tradition goes back through the Cistercians, like
Speaker 4: in robin Hood with.
Speaker 5: Friar Tuck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a Cistercian monk, the drunk monks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that was I'm only asking because that's that
Speaker 5: those are the monks that created the Knights Templar.
Speaker 1: There you go. But yeah, Knights Rosa Crucians. All of
Speaker 1: these ancient orders are coming through these avenues, through Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: into the rest of it.
Speaker 5: And this little gray alien fella, this little.
Speaker 1: Gray alien fella also helps start the the Amish. So
Speaker 1: the Amish, we're kind of I'm looking.
Speaker 4: I've been wanting to do that myself, So fill me
Speaker 4: in on those details I want to start. I've been
Speaker 4: wanting to start my Monamish order or you know, get
Speaker 4: your little tax for a little paperwork reaction.
Speaker 1: So the Amish orders that were started over in Germany
Speaker 1: were sort of like a Lutheran offshoot, so they were
Speaker 1: kind of the Yeah, so they were kind of the
Speaker 1: I guess you could call him the Mormonism of that
Speaker 1: time period. And so through this Pennsylvania connection, that's where
Speaker 1: they started to settle in the United States, through this
Speaker 1: kind of Rosicrucian Lutheran connection. And so once they established themselves,
Speaker 1: you know, because they still practice magic, and they practice
Speaker 1: magic that goes back to the origins of Christianity, which
Speaker 1: is really interesting. I just saw a video by the
Speaker 1: Museum of Tarot on Instagram and he was talking about
Speaker 1: the Flower of Life and how everything we know about
Speaker 1: the Flower of Life is wrong. The original guy who
Speaker 1: brought o for the concept of the Flower of life,
Speaker 1: he said that it came from an ancient Egyptian temple,
Speaker 1: and this ancient Egyptian temple had this on one of
Speaker 1: the walls and it represents the soul. Well, this Museum
Speaker 1: of Taro guy looks into this claim by this new
Speaker 1: ager in the nineteen seventies and he finds out that
Speaker 1: this temple itself was actually being defaced by Christians, and
Speaker 1: the Christians would use heck signs to deface the ancient monuments,
Speaker 1: and so in Greek. They had an inscription that was
Speaker 1: right next to this flower of life heck sign that
Speaker 1: says our God is greater than yours, and so really
Speaker 1: of life was a hex sign that these early Christians
Speaker 1: were using to deface these ancient temples. But what's what's
Speaker 1: kind of fascinating about it is that they called Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ the Son of Man. And if you look at
Speaker 1: electron microso microscope scans of of DNA, it's got that
Speaker 1: same sort of flower of life heck sign.
Speaker 5: Okay, sure, these.
Speaker 1: Two ideas together. They're using this magic of man as
Speaker 1: this sort of archetypal symbol to sort of get rid
Speaker 1: of the alien influence of these gods and these tutelary spirits.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, what you're saying makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 4: because as you're describing this whole, this whole Philadelphia cult situation,
Speaker 4: I started thinking doomsday, ancient alien cargo cults. And apparently
Speaker 4: the local media publications of Philadelphia already be me to
Speaker 4: these conclusions. When he real life Doomsday built a cave
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, but later on you the nation's.
Speaker 5: First Doomsday cult, it claims.
Speaker 1: Right, because he believed that the world was going to
Speaker 1: end on a certain date and that everything had to
Speaker 1: be put in place that would be the proper layout
Speaker 1: for it. And so yeah, this is an ancient doomsday
Speaker 1: cargo cult. And again the guy looks like a fucking alien,
Speaker 1: so that's some mis coincidence.
Speaker 5: It's an interesting constructions.
Speaker 4: You know, they put some effort here in building this
Speaker 4: little location right out.
Speaker 1: Right outside of this canyon where he was living. You've
Speaker 1: got the the cult that's based around uh Compte Saint
Speaker 1: German Entrance.
Speaker 4: Oh really okay, and so kind of like the stuff
Speaker 4: going on up there at the i Am Cult of
Speaker 4: melt Shasta, that's one.
Speaker 1: The i AM Cult is right outside of this and
Speaker 1: they still got a building and a bunch of this
Speaker 1: guy called the Susquehanna Alchemist. He went down there with
Speaker 1: the big tour group and the i AM Cult is like,
Speaker 1: why don't you guys come in here and we'll have
Speaker 1: a chat, and so they're talking. Really, the reason why
Speaker 1: the i AM Cult settled there is because of the
Speaker 1: Cave of Telpius. So they were they were, and you know,
Speaker 1: the i AM Cult has been like so f luential
Speaker 1: and all these UFO calls, all the UFO.
Speaker 5: Oh big time copy and paste from the I am
Speaker 5: cull big time.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, certainly, yeah, certainly since their creation for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 4: was it the nineteen twenties or nineteen thirties, right.
Speaker 1: So this has been a cold hotbed, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean right along this this canyon, you've got.
Speaker 4: This here, Well, it's a Scuogl River which has got
Speaker 4: a lot of mound sites. I mean that's been Franklin built,
Speaker 4: put a lot of things in Philadelphia along the mound
Speaker 4: sites along the Scuogl River. I mean, the William Penn
Speaker 4: signed over the property for Philadelphia from the Lenape on
Speaker 4: what is known as Penn Park. They got a little
Speaker 4: they got a miniature giant Dick statue, a small obelisk
Speaker 4: sitting there today on the on the banks of the
Speaker 4: river there. But it's in Penn Park. But that's on
Speaker 4: a mound site. So that the agreement for Philadelphia and
Speaker 4: essentially America was made on a mound site there. So
Speaker 4: I'm wondering how much what the proximity is to a
Speaker 4: mound side of this cave situation. I imagine it's probably
Speaker 4: right around.
Speaker 1: The maps. Buddy, I know you've got the mountain.
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, well, I have to look at it.
Speaker 4: I've heard of these these organizations before, but I've never
Speaker 4: really gotten that deep into it. But yeah, I'm bligging
Speaker 4: vaguely from there with Beverly Pascal, Beverly Randolph. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a very interesting thing with these You're right, the I
Speaker 4: AM called is very They remain very prominent today in
Speaker 4: a lot of parapolitical activities.
Speaker 5: I mean, they were all wrapped up in the QAnon stuff, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see a lot of the influences of the
Speaker 1: I AM cult in there. You've got the idea of
Speaker 1: shifting from this uh alien messiah to this uh you know,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump messiah, and that's really taken off over an Israel.
Speaker 1: They they really think that he could be there, sure,
Speaker 1: their messiah. So you've got you've got a lot of
Speaker 1: this messianic sort of dog leashing of a lot of
Speaker 1: different groups all into the same thing. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's really taken off as much as they hoped it would,
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like the bot armies have kind
Speaker 1: of died down for the q cult, but you still
Speaker 1: got a little bit going.
Speaker 5: On, right, right, and uh yeah, the.
Speaker 1: The Sevenfold Prayer, oh God, Yeah, general Flynn made the
Speaker 1: Sevenfold prayer in front of a whole audience full of
Speaker 1: Christians and they didn't know what the fuck.
Speaker 6: Oh that's an actual that's like I've seen that and
Speaker 6: stuff before he pulled out of a cult ship. I mean,
Speaker 6: I've seen it in the cult books.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well then what is this? Maybe you can
Speaker 1: pull it up.
Speaker 2: It was like the seven rays, the seven rays of
Speaker 2: Light prayer or some shit like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you look up the I'll look it up.
Speaker 4: It is it fair to call I am a neo
Speaker 4: theosophical religious movement? I mean, is it pure most purely
Speaker 4: based on theosopical ideals?
Speaker 5: That that what's going on there?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, but top day Saint Germain is
Speaker 1: their messiah figure and the.
Speaker 4: Way rights like a time traveler, right, some sort of vampire.
Speaker 1: Right, vampire time traveler.
Speaker 5: Yep, you have the entire time travelers.
Speaker 4: I'd watch that show. What are we talking about? Seven
Speaker 4: verses of what? Seven verses of Satan? Would you call it?
Speaker 1: No, it's the sevenfold rays of light said.
Speaker 5: By General Right, That's what I said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so General Flynn is doing this theosophical prayer that
Speaker 1: was said in nineteen eighty four, in front of a
Speaker 1: huge audience to Christians, and he's like, repeat after me,
Speaker 1: and he's got the whole audience of Christians just eating
Speaker 1: out of his palm reciting this prayer from the Theosophical Society.
Speaker 1: Couldn't get any less Christian than that. It was.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm still looking for that.
Speaker 4: But in the meantime, this the first thing when I
Speaker 4: searched that, that verse and General Flynn, this was the
Speaker 4: second hit on Google.
Speaker 5: Michael Flynn to Q non believers, I'm not a Satanist.
Speaker 1: Well that's what he's talking about. That If you watch
Speaker 1: the video associated with that, he's he's there making this
Speaker 1: sevenfold prayer that came directly out of Theosophical Satanists.
Speaker 2: Interesting, seven rays of light? I think it's cool?
Speaker 5: Is that? Is that what I'm I searched wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew.
Speaker 4: We got into the Oh, I know, we got into
Speaker 4: the evangelical movie. What's he doing in Batavia, New York.
Speaker 4: That's where the That's where Joseph Smith recruited all those
Speaker 4: Campbell Lights miller Ites into the early Mormon Church, including
Speaker 4: Sydney Rigdon.
Speaker 1: He got the Miller rights. That's where it came from.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 4: That well, they were were the Campbell Lights, and then
Speaker 4: they kind of went It was at the same time
Speaker 4: they were branching off in the different directions, the younger
Speaker 4: think the Campbell Son and the Miller guy, and then
Speaker 4: you had Sydney Rigged and who was you know, one
Speaker 4: of their ministers. He became the he became a warm
Speaker 4: and he took a lot of their congregation, the younger
Speaker 4: Campbell I think, the Miller guy went off, and then
Speaker 4: the Miller guy broke off and became the mill Rights,
Speaker 4: which I think then produced the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Seven
Speaker 4: Day Adventists, so on and so forth.
Speaker 5: They all have that same episode or in Batavia in
Speaker 5: New York. So that's weird. That flends do with some evangelical.
Speaker 4: Stuff up there, with all the with this, with this
Speaker 4: prairie all we're talking about. That's a that's long been
Speaker 4: a hotbed of some weird cold activity.
Speaker 2: Yeah New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean, if you think about it, the
Speaker 1: Millerites was a huge scam that was meant to fail,
Speaker 1: and then it leaves a whole bunch of people without anchor,
Speaker 1: without base. So it's kind of like the Millerite movement
Speaker 1: was the U I guess you would call it the
Speaker 1: what's it called Alice in wonderlanding of all of these
Speaker 1: people right in New York, and so they they threw
Speaker 1: them all out into the streets. Basically, they said, you've
Speaker 1: got to get ready, Jesus is coming back in the
Speaker 1: eighteen forties, and then as soon as it all collapsed,
Speaker 1: you had all these other cult leaders come in there
Speaker 1: and start picking off the bones. I didn't know about
Speaker 1: rights until I read this Encyclopedia entrant entry about it,
Speaker 1: and it's like, in the eighteen forties, all these people
Speaker 1: thought Jesus was coming back, so they sold off everything
Speaker 1: they had and then they all waited out on the
Speaker 1: lawn for him to return. And then nothing happened. And
Speaker 1: I didn't know what happened to them after that, but
Speaker 1: I guess that's that's the whole idea is you you
Speaker 1: now have a bunch of spiritual refugees that you can
Speaker 1: just use for anything you want to.
Speaker 4: I think that's what the great disappointment is. So each
Speaker 4: time that these apocalyptic events did not occur, and they
Speaker 4: had to either the current cult leader either had it
Speaker 4: for go being a future cult leader where you had
Speaker 4: to come up with a new story of why he
Speaker 4: was wrong, each time each being a subsequent new version
Speaker 4: of the Great Disappointment. So it was this Elizabeth Claire
Speaker 4: Prophet lady that seems to be associated with this thea Theo.
Speaker 1: She was heavily associated with the Meditation Center in the
Speaker 1: u N. So she's got she's got deep ties into
Speaker 1: all this ancient Satanism, ancient anti.
Speaker 4: She's the one doing this, She's the one who's doing it,
Speaker 4: pushing the ideas of Alice Bailey.
Speaker 5: She take her from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the one who came up with the seven
Speaker 1: sevenfold prayer, the seven rays of life. Elizabeth Prophet was
Speaker 1: and then it was repeated verbatim by uh General Flynn
Speaker 1: in front of a crowd of a whole bunch of trumpers,
Speaker 1: and he had them all repeated.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So Alice Bailey came up with and then this lady
Speaker 4: Prophet lady continued on with it.
Speaker 1: Well, she was sort of like spiritual promise this.
Speaker 4: Right, because she took over, she took over the Theosophical Society, right,
Speaker 4: Alice Bailey. Right, Well, it looks like this blog is
Speaker 4: comparing her version versus what am I looking at here?
Speaker 5: Nick? Do you know what?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 5: What? What this is? Is this?
Speaker 4: Because it says right here, it says, let's match them
Speaker 4: up to the seven rays of the of Okay, So
Speaker 4: so this prayer is matching up to Alice Bailey's seven
Speaker 4: Rays of Theosophy. The theosophy as described by Alice Bailey?
Speaker 4: Is that what this is?
Speaker 2: That's what I got.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: So the Seven Mountain Mandate, the Mandate's distribution via Hillsong Church?
Speaker 5: What is this? Is this the stuff that that Flynn
Speaker 5: was talking that was Hillsong Church?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: I think my opinion, I think he did it a
Speaker 6: few times actually too.
Speaker 4: I knew he was big in the in the evangelical
Speaker 4: but but I didn't know he was big in this.
Speaker 5: Let me see theosophical situation. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They're trying, what's the what are these seven? What are
Speaker 4: these seven tenants? Like they try to.
Speaker 1: Hide the video, but there's a great video of him
Speaker 1: saying it. Oh, here we go, I got It's a
Speaker 1: TikTok video.
Speaker 5: Okay, let me see. If you're a design.
Speaker 4: Uh, what what's the what's what are these tenets?
Speaker 5: Of these rays? Are these these standards of theosophy? What
Speaker 5: do they what? What? What are they? What do they outline?
Speaker 4: This is one says will and power, rights, Who's love
Speaker 4: and wisdom? These are just their These are just their
Speaker 4: philosophical understanding of their worldview.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, you know how theosophists do it. They like to
Speaker 1: code everything in layers upon layers of philosophical mumbo jumbo
Speaker 1: and jargon, and and they never actually say what they
Speaker 1: actually mean. So this thing is a coded sort of
Speaker 1: sevenfold you know planetary magic that they're they're using based
Speaker 1: off of the you know, the spells around the seven planets.
Speaker 1: And what you're trying to do is with the seven
Speaker 1: rays of light is you're trying to sort of condense
Speaker 1: that into a certain type of vibration within the minds
Speaker 1: of the people who are saying it. That's why you've
Speaker 1: got to repeat it. So I've got the Michael Flynn prayer.
Speaker 1: I don't know, let me, can I share my.
Speaker 5: Screen just put it in the you can do that
Speaker 5: to put in the private chat in one of the two.
Speaker 1: All right, let me let me give you the TikTok
Speaker 1: video here.
Speaker 4: So it looks like they're calling Donald Trump sort of
Speaker 4: some sort of anointed king Cyrus.
Speaker 5: Who's that?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Cyrus.
Speaker 4: It says they call Donald Trump an anointed king Cyrus,
Speaker 4: not Billy Ray.
Speaker 1: Right, I hope, so, God, I hope. So that'd be great.
Speaker 1: That's a crossover we need.
Speaker 4: Right, the seven mounds of influence in an end Times prophecies.
Speaker 5: So the the.
Speaker 4: Theosophics, the theosop I always have a hard time saying
Speaker 4: that the.
Speaker 5: Theosop theo Theosophists. There we go.
Speaker 4: They're they're doing end time stuff, they're doing apocalyptic stuff.
Speaker 1: Well they've got to. I mean, it's it's the same
Speaker 1: as the Millerites. What they want to do is get
Speaker 1: as many of these Christians into this end Times cult
Speaker 1: as they possibly can for another great disappointment. This is
Speaker 1: how you destroy a movement from the inside. Is all
Speaker 1: these people want to see change. You give them an
Speaker 1: end Times prophecy that's going to be fulfilled by their
Speaker 1: beloved leader. When that doesn't come about, and after they've
Speaker 1: sold off all their stuff or or given it away
Speaker 1: or had somebody else take it, you've got a bunch
Speaker 1: of vulnerable people that you can repurpose for something else.
Speaker 1: So a lot of this true end times Q tard whatever.
Speaker 1: It's all about getting as many people sort of funneled
Speaker 1: into that channel as possible. I put that in the
Speaker 1: chat if you want to show that. Yeah, ye by
Speaker 1: side Elizabeth Claire Prophet doing the same prayer. I am
Speaker 1: asking your help in the tremendous past of informing and
Speaker 1: alerting the American people.
Speaker 5: But we are opposed.
Speaker 1: Around the world.
Speaker 3: We are your instrument, will simp old raise and all
Speaker 3: your archangels, all of them.
Speaker 4: I am here, Oh God, and I am the instrument
Speaker 4: of those seven pole days and arcane do's.
Speaker 3: We will not retreat. We will not retreat. We will
Speaker 3: stand our ground, and I will not retreat.
Speaker 5: Is this lady with the hair? Is this Elizabeth Claire Prophet?
Speaker 1: You got it?
Speaker 5: While that's a wild ass hairstyle.
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty four to two thousand and twenty something, whenever
Speaker 1: he made that, probably twenty second.
Speaker 5: Is it is verbatim, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Verbatim.
Speaker 3: I will take my stand. We will not fear to shriek.
Speaker 3: We will be the instrument of your will, whatever it is.
Speaker 3: I will not fear to speak, and I will be
Speaker 3: the instrument of God's will, whatever it is in your name.
Speaker 5: What would be the point of them both saying in whatever.
Speaker 1: It is right, because it's they don't want to run either.
Speaker 4: Way line, like you know what I mean, Like that's
Speaker 4: obviously relevant some capacity here though, right.
Speaker 1: Right, whatever it is, as in, you guys will do
Speaker 1: whatever I say.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. It's like a like it's some
Speaker 5: sort of mind fuck at the end there.
Speaker 1: And the name of your legions here.
Speaker 3: I am so help me God, in the name of
Speaker 3: our kingdom, Michael Lenny's legion. We are free born, and
Speaker 3: we shall remain freeborn.
Speaker 1: I am preborn, and I shall remain preborn.
Speaker 3: And we shall not be enslaved by any foe, with
Speaker 3: them or without. And I shall not be enslaved by
Speaker 3: any foe, with it or without.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's pretty wild, pretty will to see one of
Speaker 4: our top military intelligence or top intelligence folks.
Speaker 5: In the American government do some weird ass cult shit, right.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, wasn't he also a part of like
Speaker 2: SYS in a sense.
Speaker 4: We ad of defense intelligence agent? So yeah, so I
Speaker 4: mean he was ahead of all military intelligence.
Speaker 2: I thought he was actually associated with certain things like
Speaker 2: that that could be wrong.
Speaker 1: But it makes sense videos.
Speaker 5: That's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's this kind of mystical Judaism that I
Speaker 1: think both the American and Jewish peoples now participate in
Speaker 1: with Zionism. So all the top Zionist pastors, all the
Speaker 1: top Zionist rabbis are all in on the same kind
Speaker 1: of mystical religion that they're not really talking about, uh,
Speaker 1: the nature of to their their sheep.
Speaker 4: So, and I don't think wasn't wasn't his brandest fella here,
Speaker 4: this first Jewish US Supreme Court justice, the Zionist.
Speaker 5: Wasn't he real, real tight with the Samuel Lutramar?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Intermra property.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have my park for you.
Speaker 1: That place is fucking crazy.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4: There was definitely a Zionist movement amongst those New York
Speaker 4: quote unquote Jewish factions there. You know, that brandest fellow,
Speaker 4: that untermyer fella. I mean, there's you know, That's what
Speaker 4: I'm saying when I was saying earlier about all these
Speaker 4: different the quote unquote Illuminati, there's so many different opposing
Speaker 4: factions impacting specifically American politics over the years.
Speaker 5: It's not just one group.
Speaker 1: Iminitize the escalab. It's got to be about the iminitize
Speaker 1: of the escalat. They all try to move towards that
Speaker 1: goal of having the end times.
Speaker 5: Michael Finn probably a kinos per judy. That's certainly possible.
Speaker 4: They all would be curious, well, I'd be curious to
Speaker 4: know where they cross passed?
Speaker 5: Will they certainly cross pass?
Speaker 1: Book is part of the required reading material of most military,
Speaker 1: uh you know, universities. If you're going to a military university,
Speaker 1: you're going to have to read mind More by Michael Aquino.
Speaker 1: So it's there, it's part of their learning.
Speaker 4: He taught at the DFK Special Forces Warfare Center and
Speaker 4: Fort Bragg as well Akino. That is at a time
Speaker 4: when you know Flynn may may have been starting his career, right,
Speaker 4: So see what I'm saying, like when being a personally
Speaker 4: that they're actually may be a lot to that because
Speaker 4: Flynn may have actually went to the Warfare Center school
Speaker 4: and Akino may have been as instructor.
Speaker 1: And you know, Flynn's the perfect kind of messianic character.
Speaker 1: You know, he went to jail for this, and he's
Speaker 1: he's fighting for you and all the rest of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile he's he's really a Judas Goat here. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody who they'll put up on
Speaker 1: a stage that isn't a Judas Goat. At this point,
Speaker 1: they know who they are are.
Speaker 5: Do you where do you think he falls in line
Speaker 5: with Team Trump?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the thing. They're trying to iminitize
Speaker 1: the Escalon. So it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: What what is that?
Speaker 5: What does I saw that kind of what does that?
Speaker 5: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: They want to make the end times the Escalon imminent? Right,
Speaker 1: they want to closer.
Speaker 4: And that's been going on for a while. Sure, Sure
Speaker 4: George Bush was telling Tony Blair and the French, the
Speaker 4: French president on getting into the Iraq War in two
Speaker 4: thousand and three under these under these pretenses as well
Speaker 4: as far as escalating the the UH the apocalypse.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's my honest opinion that I believe
Speaker 1: that the Septuogen was written by secret society type people.
Speaker 1: I think that's the purpose of it. And you know,
Speaker 1: the Septuogen was called the Big G in Latin because
Speaker 1: seventy the big g, you know, no matter what God
Speaker 1: you have, and you know that goes straight into theosophy too.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what God you have, We're going to
Speaker 1: condense it all down into our political system, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that's kind of what the Septuogen did. It
Speaker 1: took all of this stuff from Greece, all of this
Speaker 1: stuff from Egypt, it took all of this stuff from
Speaker 1: the Hebrews, and it just meshed it all in there together.
Speaker 1: And then it's been you know, the world religion ever since.
Speaker 1: Catholicism is called universalism. So anytime you brought these wars
Speaker 1: and battles between the Hebrews and the Christians and the Muslims,
Speaker 1: it all goes back to the Septuagen. The septuagen is
Speaker 1: what spread it all around the world, and the Septuagen
Speaker 1: is the big g And if you look into the
Speaker 1: history of the Septuagen, it was written in Greek first,
Speaker 1: it wasn't written in Hebrew first. They all just condensed
Speaker 1: it all down. So the idea of the Escalon being
Speaker 1: this imminent event is something that's been going on for
Speaker 1: thousands of years, and it's a formula, and it's a
Speaker 1: formula that works. And if you look at the Millerites,
Speaker 1: that's the way they plan on doing it, you know,
Speaker 1: you've got the Seventh Day Adventists, You've got you know,
Speaker 1: the Waco Church. They used the same formula out there
Speaker 1: Waco as they used with the Millerites. They told David Koresh,
Speaker 1: you need to finish this book about uh the End Times,
Speaker 1: and then we'll let you out. And you know, he's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to finish my book about the End Times
Speaker 1: so that we can get out of this situation and
Speaker 1: we could be saved. It's like they put that in
Speaker 1: his head and he was perfectly willing to go along
Speaker 1: with it, because everybody's looking at the end of the
Speaker 1: world being who's the who's they the FBI negotiators, this.
Speaker 5: Guy is it? This guy that did it?
Speaker 1: It was that guy that did it.
Speaker 4: That guy, this guy's responsible. You can't tell me that's
Speaker 4: That's a woman, Janerino, Get get the hell out of here.
Speaker 4: So I've often wondered that what's the intersection with the
Speaker 4: intersection of Barry gorgeous attorney generally, had they right Jane Reno,
Speaker 4: it's looking like it's looking like a dude.
Speaker 5: I mean, Will Ferrell, Will fare look like a.
Speaker 4: Better version of this playing Janina like looked less mainly
Speaker 4: than Jane Reno does.
Speaker 5: Right, oh man, the uh, the uh.
Speaker 4: I've often wondered the intersection of gun trafficking, the federal
Speaker 4: government kind of gun trafficking and UH and the way
Speaker 4: in the Waco called the the branch Davidians, because they
Speaker 4: were clearly involved in in the gun sales, and I
Speaker 4: often wonder if they if they kind of stumbled across
Speaker 4: like a a meana a meana Arkansas style gun running operation.
Speaker 4: They had been long going, been going throughout Central Texas,
Speaker 4: that corridor of Texas. For example, the during Iran Contra,
Speaker 4: the main c I A weapons depot, weapons vaulton depot
Speaker 4: was located in a US Air Force camp in northwestern
Speaker 4: San Antonio called Camp Bullis. I'm uh and I worked
Speaker 4: for that command, for their their military police staff and
Speaker 4: that headquarters unit. So I'm very familiar with some of this,
Speaker 4: some of these histories and to knowledge that that's not
Speaker 4: very well known. In fact, the volume of gun running
Speaker 4: that was going on out of San Antonio cifically Campbelli's
Speaker 4: on a site it's still in by the CIA today
Speaker 4: that operates in an Air force and installation, and it's
Speaker 4: not all that it's directly south like three hours of Waco.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Like, it's about the midway between
Speaker 4: Waco and the border. So if you're running, that is
Speaker 4: a depot and you need a northern distribution point, Waco starts,
Speaker 4: geographically speaking, logistically speaking, is a great location. So I
Speaker 4: often wonder how much of that gun trafficking throughout that
Speaker 4: corridor did the way the Branch Davidians find themselves witness
Speaker 4: to which really caused the big dispute there.
Speaker 1: Well, who could forget the fast and furious operation, I mean.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, this is same thing, basically,
Speaker 4: That's what I'm inferring, right right.
Speaker 1: I mean, does anybody actually believe that they were actually
Speaker 1: tracking these guns and actually knew.
Speaker 5: Where they were?
Speaker 1: Were they just dumping them?
Speaker 5: They need?
Speaker 1: The idea that the cartel is somehow different from the
Speaker 1: Mexican government of the United States government is just laughable
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, for sure, but yeah, whatever, Well, I mean,
Speaker 4: I just don't know that we I think a lot
Speaker 4: of folks have questions about whatever went on with the
Speaker 4: Branch Davidians, but I don't think we've we even are.
Speaker 5: Really breaching the surface of what really went on there.
Speaker 1: Now, and I think the only guy who could tell
Speaker 1: you is, you know, in a shallow grave. I don't
Speaker 1: think because they were this whole thing about the wake
Speaker 1: up people was about ar fifteens because that's what they want,
Speaker 1: that's what they were smuggling.
Speaker 4: That's that's what I'm saying, right right, You're spot on,
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I'm saying, Like, there's more to that
Speaker 4: gun trafficking situation in the gun I'm not saying they
Speaker 4: were in league.
Speaker 5: With the government.
Speaker 4: They very well may could have been. They could have
Speaker 4: been in league with the government. Whatever it was, they
Speaker 4: stumbled across something that mister Jane A. Reno did not like.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you can see right here.
Speaker 4: According to even the ai on from a Google here,
Speaker 4: Camp Bullis is a military base that provided training and
Speaker 4: operation support during the Iran Contra affair. It served as
Speaker 4: a giant weapons deep over Contra affair.
Speaker 1: Right. Even the name of contrast is so misleading, very.
Speaker 5: Very much so.
Speaker 1: My family's one claim to fame is that back in
Speaker 1: the nineties you had Olie North that wanted to run
Speaker 1: for president after George Bush Senior, and he didn't have
Speaker 1: many supporters, but my dad. He said, we're going to
Speaker 1: be there to support you, Olie North. And they actually
Speaker 1: had a Washington Post journalist come out and interview my
Speaker 1: dad and put our picture in the paper over his
Speaker 1: support of Ollie North, because nobody else was that stupid
Speaker 1: to support that guy.
Speaker 4: Right right, It's like, mister Jane Areno could take a punch,
Speaker 4: and I assure you, mister Jane Areno can deliver a
Speaker 4: punch the size of that creature.
Speaker 5: It's a heavyweight boxer. But yeah, here we go.
Speaker 4: It's actually called Camp Stanley. It's within the confines of
Speaker 4: Camp Bullis.
Speaker 5: Arms.
Speaker 4: This is from twenty fourteen New York Times. Arms Cachet
Speaker 4: most likely kept in Texas by the CIA. I work
Speaker 4: there in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 4: I can assure you Arms Cache most most definitely not
Speaker 4: most likely kept in Texas by the CIA. Fucking nonsense
Speaker 4: headline like they probably keep weapons there.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's all about chaos because the maximum amount of
Speaker 1: chaos you can cause result in the maximum amount of control.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, they don't give a
Speaker 1: shit who gives your's heart in the process. They're not
Speaker 1: going to be the ones getting hurt. And if you
Speaker 1: think about it, you've got all this terrorism bullshit targeting
Speaker 1: every day regular people.
Speaker 5: It's gonna put this gorgeous lady back on the screen
Speaker 5: while you're talking ahead.
Speaker 1: You've got all this government stuff targeting every day regular people.
Speaker 1: When you realize that the intersection of terrorism, uh UFOs
Speaker 1: all the rest of the stuff is just targeting everyday
Speaker 1: regular people, you kind of get the impression that all
Speaker 1: this stuff is based around the same ship. It's all
Speaker 1: about control. Sure, it doesn't matter who's doing it. If
Speaker 1: the targets are the same, the enemy is the same,
Speaker 1: and if the enemies are the same, it really doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who's carrying it out. You can't really pick seize.
Speaker 4: It's definitely about control though, the control of the iron
Speaker 4: grip of justice of Janet Reno.
Speaker 1: Gosh, she's a ball crusher. Huh man.
Speaker 4: You tell about man hands. I saw this photo of
Speaker 4: getting tossed around in me mean fashion around twist her
Speaker 4: today of well, Kamala, Kamala, Kamala. You say Kamala, I
Speaker 4: say Kamala. Harris and her long arm. Have y'all seen this?
Speaker 4: This is an official like uh posts by the ad Democrats.
Speaker 4: Uh TwixT your account. I'm me pull this up for
Speaker 4: you to show you precisely what the preposterous photograph I'm
Speaker 4: talking about. I don't know that they so I think
Speaker 4: folks are claiming like they messed with her arm, like
Speaker 4: her arm is somehow not really this long. And I'm
Speaker 4: gonna tell you this, I've met this individual. Her arms
Speaker 4: not only that long. She's got man hands or he
Speaker 4: has man hands, as I would like to describe it. Uh,
Speaker 4: there's when I when this individual was the Attorney General
Speaker 4: of California. I definitely remember meeting this individual, shaking this
Speaker 4: individual's hand, turning to my my associate, and saying, holy shit,
Speaker 4: she has man hands.
Speaker 5: But look at this arm, dude. What is the size
Speaker 5: of this arm?
Speaker 7: Dude?
Speaker 5: It's outrageous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of right, right.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean what she could have been genetically designed
Speaker 1: to give hand jobs under a table.
Speaker 4: Oh so she needs the go go gadget reach.
Speaker 5: I see what you're saying that Janet Reno Kung Fu group.
Speaker 1: This is his super power and as soon as you
Speaker 1: find out it's to him.
Speaker 4: I mean, let's be honest about the situation. I mean,
Speaker 4: outside of the length of the arms, the size of
Speaker 4: the hands. What female qualities do you see on this individual?
Speaker 4: They're lacking. I assure you they're lacking. And I don't
Speaker 4: think it's that big of a stretch of the imagination,
Speaker 4: because they actually do have transgender gods, and for a
Speaker 4: lot of reasons, one of those reasons being she is
Speaker 4: of a Brahmin Indian class of Hinduism, and they do
Speaker 4: have transgender gods and Hinduism they as a child, apparently
Speaker 4: they have. I'm not Hindu, and I could be misquoting
Speaker 4: some of these things, but my understanding is that as
Speaker 4: a child, you're basically given a god to follow as
Speaker 4: like a spiritual guide in life, one of their pantheonic
Speaker 4: gods within Hinduism, or you're chosen somehow, it's chosen or
Speaker 4: signed to you. Well, there is transgendered ones. So like,
Speaker 4: you know, what I'm saying is, you know, this could
Speaker 4: be a very accepted thing within her class of society,
Speaker 4: within Hinduism.
Speaker 5: Or his class.
Speaker 4: Shim's class them, Yeah, them's class. I mean her husband.
Speaker 4: I mean, let's let's even look at her husband. You
Speaker 4: know what I mean, this guy, Dell Jimhoff does he?
Speaker 4: I mean, there's nothing hetero about this guy, and if
Speaker 4: you asking me, I'm just saying, like.
Speaker 5: Him and sim Waltz could uh, they're definitely leading up
Speaker 5: to white dudes for Kamala twenty twenty eight campaigns.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying, did they get did they get the
Speaker 1: Guinness Book of World Record for the most amount of
Speaker 1: horse come drink.
Speaker 4: Or you uh, you know what's you know what's funny though?
Speaker 4: All this with Kamala Harris and you know whatnot you
Speaker 4: never heard from really much from old Montel Williams.
Speaker 5: Did you dope? And you know?
Speaker 4: I know this has often danced around as is being
Speaker 4: a photograph of Montel and his side piece Kamala.
Speaker 5: I understand this.
Speaker 4: This individual here on his left, this young lady is
Speaker 4: his daughter, Montell's daughter. So I'm not saying it's not
Speaker 4: a side Kamala was not a side piece. But I'm
Speaker 4: just saying that it's probably just his daughter and maybe
Speaker 4: they're not banging his daughter. Who knows that's that? P.
Speaker 4: Thomas should beat me to it. Here's the other interesting
Speaker 4: thing about I find it about Montell Williams. P Thomas
Speaker 4: is Brodi's in the navy. That's not I mean, that
Speaker 4: is a joke to uh you know, I guess you
Speaker 4: know the kind of the the y m c A
Speaker 4: was the village people right in the Navy. Kind of
Speaker 4: homosexual jokes here regarding whether or not Kamala Harris as
Speaker 4: a dude, but he's actually he's actually literally in the
Speaker 4: Navy as well.
Speaker 5: He was a Navy intel officer.
Speaker 1: Give him eight. I thought Kamala gave.
Speaker 5: Him eight yikes.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's accurate, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: he just retired a few years ago. Montell Williams like
Speaker 4: when he was a like when he was a TV
Speaker 4: host doing his like you know, Jerry spring Risque scene,
Speaker 4: right the Montell Williams Show from nineteen ninety one to two.
Speaker 5: Thousand and eight, he wasn't he was a US Naval officer.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, well, you know, the reserve, the recording industry,
Speaker 1: So it wouldn't be that far of a stress to
Speaker 1: think that Naval intelligence would still want to maintain some
Speaker 1: sort of control over the Yeah.
Speaker 5: See, he's an academy grad in the lieutenant commander.
Speaker 4: He retired in nineteen ninety six, says, yeah, nineteen seventy
Speaker 4: four to nineteen ninety six, So he's literally be he's
Speaker 4: on TV and he's also you know, so the Montel
Speaker 4: Williams show could be viewed as a project brought to
Speaker 4: America by the Office of Naval Intelligence. I don't think
Speaker 4: that's a stretch to say that the guy's maintaining his
Speaker 4: his uh, you know, his clearances and his service as
Speaker 4: a lieutenant commander in the Office of Naval Intelligence. Like,
Speaker 4: I don't think that's uh, you know, a stretch of
Speaker 4: to claim that's that program is at least sanctioned by
Speaker 4: the Office of Naval Intelligence.
Speaker 1: I have a p s A for the audience real quick,
Speaker 1: never out on the wine opener, because you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna be sitting there for thirty minutes trying to get
Speaker 1: the same freaking cork out.
Speaker 5: Pss Is that what's happening the uh? I just think
Speaker 5: that's so weird.
Speaker 4: I know, I like when I first discovered that, I
Speaker 4: don't know I was looking at when I was looking
Speaker 4: in further to this ciao and I view that seems
Speaker 4: to be going on in America, I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 4: Montel Williams, lieutenant commander in the Office of Naval Intelligence.
Speaker 5: That's fucking wild.
Speaker 1: Not out outside the realm of possibility. Because you know
Speaker 1: they're they're the predecessor. They were sort of the the Nations.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the og Intel Agency, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so there's always been sort of like this feud
Speaker 1: going on between them and the c I A.
Speaker 4: And Kamala Harris is an interesting character. So I don't
Speaker 4: know what relations she has too. Old Juicy Juicy Smollett
Speaker 4: or Juicy smull A there the guy that got the
Speaker 4: guy that was involved in all that nonsense and seemingly
Speaker 4: walked from creating a whole fake you know, uh lynching incident. Well,
Speaker 4: his mother's a hairess from Jamaica. Same the same same
Speaker 4: Harris family as as old Kamala there. So I often wonder,
Speaker 4: you know, that whole small a families. Him and his
Speaker 4: siblings are all big Hollywood and you know they're in
Speaker 4: all sorts of stuff in Hollywood, have been for decades.
Speaker 1: My boy. Have you have you seen the episode Nick
Speaker 1: and I did about Kamala Harris and the Knights Templar.
Speaker 1: Yeah this, Yeah, she was involved in this strange kind
Speaker 1: of ohh the police department, Yeah, the police department. They
Speaker 1: called themselves the Knights Templar. Well, I was drawing it
Speaker 1: back to the Knights Templar cartel in Mexico and the
Speaker 1: major it was a cartel that got taken out by
Speaker 1: El Americana. Have you ever heard of that guy, No
Speaker 1: Mormon dude who smuggled a bunch of weapons down to
Speaker 1: Mexico so that he could fight this cult of the Templars,
Speaker 1: and the Templars would go around beheading people, and so
Speaker 1: he decided he was to fuck him up, and him
Speaker 1: and like thirteen other dudes went out there and just
Speaker 1: killed them all in one night. I think those two organizations,
Speaker 1: this Police Templar organization and this Knights Templar down in Mexico,
Speaker 1: we're probably a little bit more linked than they're willing
Speaker 1: to discuss.
Speaker 5: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: What they what this Knights Templar dude who was part
Speaker 1: of Kamala's ring wanted to do is he actually won
Speaker 1: an award for local television putting out this news thing
Speaker 1: about terrorists coming across the border. And I think what
Speaker 1: what they had planned is having kind of this uh
Speaker 1: NATO style Gladio operation going on between the Knights Templar
Speaker 1: and Mexico and the Knights Templar in the United States.
Speaker 1: Because they specifically said we're part of the police union
Speaker 1: in Mexico.
Speaker 5: These guys said that, yeah, all these different states and
Speaker 5: so this is the one that was connected to Camal.
Speaker 5: These are the folks that are out of Oakland, right.
Speaker 1: Right, So that guy in the middle.
Speaker 4: Them to improve relations with black community.
Speaker 5: Lawyer says right. Lawyer says right. So they wanted to
Speaker 5: all regaled up, isn't he right?
Speaker 1: And and you know these top unions are like, this
Speaker 1: guy's just pretending to be a copy. He's never had
Speaker 1: any sort of distinction.
Speaker 5: But one of the dudes, little pib of the Knights
Speaker 5: Temple or own.
Speaker 1: Right, one of these dudes in this little posse got
Speaker 1: his credentials from the Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: Office when she was the attorney general, right prosecutor, which
Speaker 4: was a prosecutor, which was a prosecutor, and so okay.
Speaker 1: Uh, he was using her credentials to go around to
Speaker 1: these different police organizations and try to get them.
Speaker 5: As an investigator for the prosecutor's offices.
Speaker 1: Interesting, it did work out too well, and the Nights
Speaker 1: got off by El Americano, this Mormon dude.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so these things that's an interesting proposition. Creator
Speaker 4: I was familiar with the Oakland was not familiar with
Speaker 4: this one out of Mexico, but they were funk at
Speaker 4: the same time.
Speaker 5: Huh right, And I believe that.
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is part of the Mothers of Darkness and
Speaker 1: so you've never heard of the mothers? Have you ever
Speaker 1: heard of the Mothers of Darkness? Castle No, So they've
Speaker 1: got this now, it's not necessity, she said, well she's
Speaker 1: got she could be the mother of invention.
Speaker 5: But Marios, yeah, yeah, and so right.
Speaker 1: So a lot of these female politicians are kind of
Speaker 1: these handlers that are dispatched from this shadow day I'm
Speaker 1: out and so right, And so I think that's what
Speaker 1: she was setting up between Mexico and the United States,
Speaker 1: were these different offshoot groups, these kind of spinoffs from
Speaker 1: the Masons. Unfortunately she fucking moron. So her little.
Speaker 5: Operation or fortunately.
Speaker 1: So her uh little operation got you know, torpedoed pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: And so she was just sort of in the background
Speaker 1: of these different politicians and she just fucked her way
Speaker 1: to the top.
Speaker 5: She did, indeed.
Speaker 4: Indeed, but if you look at is this Mormon Mexicano
Speaker 4: feil you keep her up from Stale.
Speaker 5: I'm interested to hear more about this guy.
Speaker 1: Ell American. If you look him up, El Americano fights
Speaker 1: Knight's Templar, you'll find a bunch of differents.
Speaker 4: L Mexicano, Mexican Templar. Okay, that's their group, right, that's
Speaker 4: the bought them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, El Americano, I forgot his name. Not El Mexicano,
Speaker 1: it's El Americano. And look at Mormon El Americano. He
Speaker 1: uh he did pretty good. Yeah, Taurres and he uh
Speaker 1: he got snatched up by the government after he put
Speaker 1: up a great defense against these there you go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they they he's an American.
Speaker 1: He's born in Alfasso, right, that's what they call him,
Speaker 1: Al Americano, and he's the guns down to these guys
Speaker 1: who fought.
Speaker 4: Maybe he enjoyed espresso and water, you know, it is
Speaker 4: one of his favorite drinks, right, right, So that's an Americano.
Speaker 5: It's a coffee joke.
Speaker 1: It is a coffee joke.
Speaker 5: Coffee now, this is crazy. So he was a Mormon too,
Speaker 5: huh yeah, well that's that was his legs. That's really
Speaker 5: interesting all these because you.
Speaker 4: Remember the le Baron Romney Mormon uh issues with all
Speaker 4: the cartels down there right around that same time.
Speaker 1: That's what he was doing. He was the one who
Speaker 1: basically made their militia and made gave them the ability
Speaker 1: to fight back because he had all these connections within
Speaker 1: the moment. Okay, so All Americano you know, he went
Speaker 1: out there and he just fucking killed them all in
Speaker 1: one night.
Speaker 5: So that was the end of the Uh.
Speaker 1: The Templars and then the Mexican government are like, no,
Speaker 1: you can't do this, you can't actually fight back against
Speaker 1: these people who are you know, beheading folks.
Speaker 4: Now people to Benicio del Toro from Have you seen
Speaker 4: the movie Cicario.
Speaker 2: Cicario, Oh, I do want to see that though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great that was a great movie.
Speaker 2: That's what I've heard.
Speaker 4: What you're what you're.
Speaker 5: Describing is basically Benicio del Toro's character in that.
Speaker 1: Right, right, Well, Benizio del Toro acted all on his
Speaker 1: own in that movie, but this Al Americano guy organized
Speaker 1: a really good fucking resistance and he actually had all
Speaker 1: the people warmed up. Go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but a lot of those characteristics you're what you're
Speaker 4: saying is like the kind of the characteristics of del
Speaker 4: Toro plays an attorney.
Speaker 5: That worked for Pablo Escobar.
Speaker 4: But I mean it's you're described a lot of the
Speaker 4: same characteristics that he's he's portraying that film, right, Did.
Speaker 1: You see the Nick Cage movie The Incredible Burden of
Speaker 1: Awesome Talent or whatever.
Speaker 5: You told me about that one. I think I haven't
Speaker 5: got a chance to see yet.
Speaker 1: It's fucking great.
Speaker 5: Last year.
Speaker 1: I think there's a bunch of memes that killed me,
Speaker 1: you know, when they're looking at each other and the
Speaker 1: car it's got. The guy from the Star Wars spin off,
Speaker 1: what's his name?
Speaker 5: I forget, but he was wonderful.
Speaker 1: No, he's he's Hispanic, but he plays this sort of
Speaker 1: unwitting dupe of the cartel down there. And then Nick
Speaker 1: Cage gets involved with him because he's paying him a
Speaker 1: lot of money to give like acting lessons or be
Speaker 1: it his uh, his birthday party. And then Nick Cage
Speaker 1: and him developed this friendship because they both liked the
Speaker 1: same movies and whatever. And then they realize some sometime
Speaker 1: in the movie that they have to kill each other
Speaker 1: because Nick Cage starts working for the CIA, and so
Speaker 1: Nick Cage is supposed to bust this, uh, this guy
Speaker 1: who kidnapped a debutante. I don't want to Ruin the
Speaker 1: third act twist, but it's great. Was what was the
Speaker 1: name of this film game the incredible Burden of awesome
Speaker 1: talent or something. If you look up Nick Cage, incredible.
Speaker 5: Talent, the weight of massive talent, there you go.
Speaker 1: Unbearable way of talent. That's just fucking great.
Speaker 4: I've heard you and someone else talking about this.
Speaker 5: This is a good movie from right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. But this is where you get a
Speaker 1: lot of these memes from uh, from this movie because
Speaker 1: uh yeah, Pedro Pascal, he did a great job in it.
Speaker 1: And like there's this one scene where they're both really
Speaker 1: really high on acid driving down the street and they
Speaker 1: look over at each other. It's just just phenomenal.
Speaker 5: NPH is in this movie, Nph Neil Patrick Harris.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just the kind of a side role he plays, weird.
Speaker 1: N Nick Cage has this alter ego inside of his
Speaker 1: head as the super.
Speaker 5: Actor guys, right, and so that's the pot well.
Speaker 1: That's part of it. So Nick Cage, you know, he
Speaker 1: can't handle all this talent, this raw acting talent, and
Speaker 1: so he's got this character in his head that comes
Speaker 1: through anytime he's questioning himself, and this character is always
Speaker 1: telling him you could do it, you Nick fucking Cage.
Speaker 4: Right, So let's say it sounds sounds like a mockumentary
Speaker 4: of sorts. It sounds like it is, yes, and.
Speaker 1: Nick Cage is definitely not taking himself seriously in the movie,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's kind of like a self
Speaker 1: deprecating thing where he's the most awesome actor in the world.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Sure, I saw Markey Murky. That's a good comment. I
Speaker 5: saw this. I was very disturbed by the scene. I
Speaker 5: don't really know how to don't want to process. I
Speaker 5: don't know how to process it. I really don't I
Speaker 5: don't know how to process it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see I don't want to see
Speaker 1: it anymore by Roseanne for as long as I live.
Speaker 1: That was fucking right, right.
Speaker 5: Who's that guy she wrapped with? Who is this guy?
Speaker 5: He's a conservative McDonald family. Yeah, ron McDonalds.
Speaker 1: Ronald McDonald's big ol' clown, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's why I was part of McDonald's family.
Speaker 1: He's pushed by Tim Poole. So that's all you really
Speaker 1: need to know about the guy.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that guy's a clown. Yeahs Marky Mark the Yeah,
Speaker 4: I saw that I'm like, oh, this is I don't
Speaker 4: even I actually just put my phone down. I was
Speaker 4: like I had TwixT her up earlier.
Speaker 5: I saw that. I was like, I'm over this. I'm done.
Speaker 4: I've reached my limit. I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 4: I don't want to pull it up. At the same time,
Speaker 4: I want to pull it up to show people the
Speaker 4: ridiculous nature of what if anyone who has not seen this.
Speaker 4: I mean, she's got like dreads or something right like,
Speaker 4: she's got uh, I mean, she.
Speaker 5: Looks like a riff raff. She looks like riff raff.
Speaker 1: She does.
Speaker 5: Whoever this person is? Who I who? I don't follow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they popped up my timeline anyway, this American Papa Bear.
Speaker 5: They wrote Daddy's Home from Tom McDonald's featuring Roseanne Barr.
Speaker 4: We are back so like people seem to be like
Speaker 4: into this, like they seem to be like, uh, excited
Speaker 4: about this situation.
Speaker 5: Like within the.
Speaker 1: Toga people, Conservatives will get excited over anything, I mean
Speaker 1: like stripping down naked and having like a Trump flag
Speaker 1: behind them, and they're like, we're so back.
Speaker 6: You know what's so funny is they get just as
Speaker 6: triggered as the left, those just in different ways and
Speaker 6: they don't see it.
Speaker 5: No, No, I mean this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: That's your bit.
Speaker 4: I mean that's about I can take. She looks like
Speaker 4: riff Raff, the rapper riff Raff, right, Like, that's is
Speaker 4: the scene she's going for there? How did and how
Speaker 4: does she become this like conspiracy culture thought leader all
Speaker 4: of a sudden?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 5: The size of her hat is how you're is how
Speaker 5: you're implying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got a really tiny right and she's.
Speaker 4: Got Mormony connections. She grew up Mormon, I believe too.
Speaker 4: I mean she got doubles, she's a double Zionist. Then
Speaker 4: at that rate, right, she's got some of.
Speaker 1: The dumbest conspiracies I've ever heard, no evidence, no nothing,
Speaker 1: just flat out saying pizzagate all you want to, but
Speaker 1: you actually have to back it up with a few facts.
Speaker 1: You know, you got to know history alone.
Speaker 4: Right, And I just feel like everyone who who's who's
Speaker 4: supposed to be like these thought leaders in conspiracy culture,
Speaker 4: even even folks I enjoy, like Tim Dillon, like they're
Speaker 4: all kissing Roseanne's ass.
Speaker 1: Well, she was a cultural icon of the nineties, so
Speaker 1: it brings everybody back to the time where they weren't
Speaker 1: all starving to death.
Speaker 4: Then I was there, Man, I wasn't a fan. I mean,
Speaker 4: I recognize you, you are correct in that assessment, but
Speaker 4: I was not a fan.
Speaker 1: If you rewatch Roseanne, it's the most anti man uh
Speaker 1: you'll ever watch. All they do is shop on Dan
Speaker 1: all day long for no fucking reason.
Speaker 4: Is a great It was that same era of TV
Speaker 4: making all men stupid like Homer Simpson. Right, I've never
Speaker 4: enjoyed I never enjoyed the Simpsons.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And it's like this is it goes by the same
Speaker 1: sort of Uh.
Speaker 4: That's who he looks like, Tom Lysan looks like a
Speaker 4: bootleg version of the Offspring lead singer.
Speaker 5: That's good, good call. What are you saying they're headless?
Speaker 1: It's just why are we giving into these cultural narratives
Speaker 1: that were formulated in the nineties to attack our culture
Speaker 1: and destroy it from within?
Speaker 5: And where did she become cool?
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know where she became cool, Like suddenly,
Speaker 4: like just a few years ago, Everyone's like, oh, have
Speaker 4: you Roseannes back? Roseannes back? Why why they even brought
Speaker 4: her TV show back? I'm like, why why are you
Speaker 4: doing this? Then they got rid of her, and then
Speaker 4: they still called it Roseanne, and then the whole, the
Speaker 4: whole mess of it just seemed very orchestrated, like they
Speaker 4: were trying to propel her back into some sort of position.
Speaker 2: She's also played some real stupid stuff with like politics too, though,
Speaker 2: I mean she at one point she was coming out
Speaker 2: and saying that Trump is still president, like she like
Speaker 2: she would actually push like weird political stupid shit on
Speaker 2: the side.
Speaker 5: Right, Not for sure, I think I think that's the
Speaker 5: role she's been playing for somebody.
Speaker 6: You know, like another thing with like you know, the
Speaker 6: right legs to make front of the left for you know,
Speaker 6: worshiping certain people, but like with the right, as long
Speaker 6: as you were somebody in the spotlight and you come
Speaker 6: out and say something remotely horrible against the government, they're
Speaker 6: real quick to start sucking a dick, like, oh, he's
Speaker 6: the new saviing. But you were just saying two weeks
Speaker 6: ago that they were a Satanists eating fucking babies for
Speaker 6: Sunday for Sunday didn't. But now all of a sudden
Speaker 6: you're cooking through because they said they didn't agree with
Speaker 6: the vaccine.
Speaker 1: I think what it is?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so weird. So Roseanne was fact.
Speaker 1: Roseanne is the inroad for the gen X trailer park
Speaker 1: mom demographic. And they think as long as they got
Speaker 1: Roseanne there, they can make their inroads with the trailer
Speaker 1: park mom gen x demographic, which is a large and
Speaker 1: growing you know population. Yeah, that's her demo, and so
Speaker 1: I guess it works, you know, but does it? Does
Speaker 1: it really work?
Speaker 3: See?
Speaker 1: I think we should be raising all ships instead of
Speaker 1: lowering them down to the level of Roseanne.
Speaker 5: Sure. Yeah, I just again in your your when someone's
Speaker 5: propelled to a position.
Speaker 4: Of being some sort of cultural or society thought leader,
Speaker 4: she has without any sort of clear trajectory and how
Speaker 4: she attained that position, you know, I said to asked questions.
Speaker 4: She's not the only one obviously in this kind of environment,
Speaker 4: but she seems to be a very popular one amongst
Speaker 4: the rights as of late.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, she was in that video with what's
Speaker 1: his name RFK Junior.
Speaker 5: There doing stuff together too.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's everywhere, But she was the one standing in
Speaker 1: the background while he was telling the story about killing
Speaker 1: this bear and then planting it in Central Park.
Speaker 5: Oh, she was. She was in the room for that story.
Speaker 5: Huh he was the one.
Speaker 1: Telling her that story.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, the father.
Speaker 1: Then she's got D I D. And so she's the
Speaker 1: perfect gen x icon because she's got.
Speaker 3: D I D.
Speaker 1: She was beaten so.
Speaker 5: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know she's got a podcast again that she's
Speaker 4: doing a lot of this again, these these new conspiracy
Speaker 4: cultural figurehead you know, ideas from almost like a counterpoint.
Speaker 4: And I don't know that she's tight with Alex Jones,
Speaker 4: but I feel like it's almost like a counterpoint to
Speaker 4: everything Alex Jones is talking about. You can almost go,
Speaker 4: you almost tune into Roseanne to like, you know, you're
Speaker 4: gonna get a slightly more fucking.
Speaker 5: Skewed version of reality, even different.
Speaker 4: What Bill Hicks is telling you, but like it's almost
Speaker 4: confirming what Bill Hicks is saying.
Speaker 5: But it's even worse the way she's describing it.
Speaker 1: Right, right, Well, she's a nineties Democrat, which means she's
Speaker 1: a twenty twenties Republican. I think that's the way they
Speaker 1: view it is because nineties Democrats are twenty twenty Republicans
Speaker 1: if they actually stayed consistent over that amount of time.
Speaker 1: But what they're not doing is they're not actually looking
Speaker 1: for ways of growing in responsibility and accountability. That's something
Speaker 1: that neither side wants to do. And if we if
Speaker 1: we're real serious with ourselves, what conspiracy culture does is
Speaker 1: gives people a way of avoiding that accountability because they
Speaker 1: could say it was X, Y or Z. What they're
Speaker 1: not doing is learning from how the enemy works their
Speaker 1: operation and figures out ways around it. Because if that
Speaker 1: was the goal, we could be making progress. Instead, it's
Speaker 1: how do we offset the accountability that we should be expressing,
Speaker 1: And a lot of people find that the best way
Speaker 1: to do that is to regurgitate these cultural icons and
Speaker 1: give them messianic status.
Speaker 4: You know, sure, sure, well, how do you think I
Speaker 4: don't know, I don't know if she's had to explain this,
Speaker 4: but this is something, this is like my most memorable
Speaker 4: Roseanne Bark's like memory from the nineties.
Speaker 5: What do you think she does explain this?
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety someone thought Rosene bar seeing the national
Speaker 4: anthem was a swell idea. She had to defend this
Speaker 4: at all, because didn't she also spit in the middle
Speaker 4: of it or something like that?
Speaker 5: So he.
Speaker 2: Yea, she screamed, what is she spit? And grabbed herself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, right, Like she was very very demeaning
Speaker 4: towards uh, you know, America, so to speak. So I
Speaker 4: wonder how she's uh defending that with her new Gangster
Speaker 4: Maga Gangster Rap a hit song layer with the Ron
Speaker 4: McDonald's kid Tom.
Speaker 1: Well again, it's it's all about just layering on the
Speaker 1: amount of the American flags you can wear. If you
Speaker 1: have five or six layers of American flag wrapped around you,
Speaker 1: then you're safe.
Speaker 5: You can go piss on the American the national anthem.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I used to get on Facebook and I would
Speaker 1: challenge people to justify these wars in the Middle East
Speaker 1: and they would get really pissed at me, and I go,
Speaker 1: you know what, you sound like you want to fight me.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to put on my class A uniform.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap my eyes in an American flag, uh
Speaker 1: you know, blindfold, and I'm going to put an American
Speaker 1: flag around my neck as a cape and then you
Speaker 1: can hit me. I'll give you a free hit. Nobody
Speaker 1: took me up on it. So there's some magic that
Speaker 1: goes along with this American flag that not only makes
Speaker 1: you immune to criticism, it makes you immune to accountability,
Speaker 1: and you can you can talk to one of these
Speaker 1: violent conservative assholes and they won't even hit you anymore
Speaker 1: if you wear the right magical equipment.
Speaker 4: There's probably something to that, the magical aspects of that,
Speaker 4: that is in the asshole aspects of that as well.
Speaker 5: Some some folks are just assholes.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 4: They don't they don't want to. They're just an asshole
Speaker 4: just to be an asshole. They don't want to really
Speaker 4: do anything about it. They're just being. Their only hopes
Speaker 4: is to achieve a great greater degree of assholeness, being
Speaker 4: a bigger asshole.
Speaker 1: But like, like I keep saying, ideology makes you vulnerable.
Speaker 1: You have to think about what you want. You have
Speaker 1: to think about who your friends and enemies really are.
Speaker 1: You cannot fill in the gaps with ideology. It doesn't work.
Speaker 4: Sure, that's a good I think that's a good good
Speaker 4: point to maybe even draw draw some uh, draw the
Speaker 4: conversation to close your gents. The nick Nick's got himself
Speaker 4: a nice little road clip going there. Like your style there, Bud, You.
Speaker 2: Try to try to look.
Speaker 5: It's very busy, very busy.
Speaker 2: Put my pinky out as I do it.
Speaker 4: But uh, you got closing tho force there. Uh with
Speaker 4: the uh on your boosie your boogie road clip status
Speaker 4: there seemed to be pontificating something. Their little looks at
Speaker 4: your face.
Speaker 6: I really got much to uh say, there was stuff
Speaker 6: early in the show, but I mean that'd be so
Speaker 6: far back it was playless for me to bring it
Speaker 6: back up. No, no, nothing, really, I mean I had
Speaker 6: a good time. I totally forgot when Headless, when Headless
Speaker 6: covered that thing with the Knight's templar, and we're gonna
Speaker 6: have to go back and look at.
Speaker 5: The episode far back on your on your timeline, do
Speaker 5: you know when that was.
Speaker 2: That's probably over to year, two years ago, maybe even longer. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe you believe it or not.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think except for maybe like Teresa, I
Speaker 6: think Headless has been like the most consistent longest person
Speaker 6: on the show.
Speaker 4: Technically, I'll say I'll pull up a link from from
Speaker 4: your All show and put that in the show notes
Speaker 4: for folks.
Speaker 5: I never want to check that out too.
Speaker 1: If you guys want more information. Brad Binkley from the
Speaker 1: Propaganda Report is the one who turned me on to that,
Speaker 1: so he's really the source of that information Brad Binkley
Speaker 1: Propaganda report Knight's Templar, And when he was doing it,
Speaker 1: that's when it was dangerous, dangerous, not dangerous safe. Now
Speaker 1: it's dangerous safe to talk about it. But he was
Speaker 1: really on the on the front lines of that because
Speaker 1: that was when the Biden administration was first sort of
Speaker 1: congeering into this Kamala Harris Mothers of Darkness sort of crossover.
Speaker 1: But what he didn't cover with his coverage was the
Speaker 1: stuff about the Knight's Templar in Mexico. That's sort of
Speaker 1: what I added because I had heard about El Americana
Speaker 1: going to war with the Knights Templer in Mexico.
Speaker 5: Sure, that's good stuff.
Speaker 4: So all right, any other closing thoughts, sergeants, really do
Speaker 4: you think anything else coming up on either one of
Speaker 4: your all shows?
Speaker 5: Again?
Speaker 1: PSA, do not cheap out on the wine openers. You
Speaker 1: will be spending thirty or forty minutes trying to get
Speaker 1: that that cork out.
Speaker 4: So nice, nice, Well, yeah, Operation GCD Wednesday Night Processed
Speaker 4: Church in the Intersection of the Processed Church in the
Speaker 4: Society of Cincinnati with Dana from Running Jewels, I recommend
Speaker 4: that thanks thanks to all the folks here in the chat,
Speaker 4: and thanks for joining us here. This sevenon folks to
Speaker 4: the interwebs. Got a good conversations I see popping off here.
Speaker 4: I certainly enjoyed it. Thanks to both of you, gentlemen
Speaker 4: for the join me here this season. Any any other
Speaker 4: final closing statements.
Speaker 1: I put a donkey mixed with the dragon on the
Speaker 1: introduction thing. I didn't have any reason for that. I
Speaker 1: just thought it was a funny thing to mix a
Speaker 1: donkey with the dragon. I like it, Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: it all right, folks.
Speaker 5: Thanks again. Well that's it. That's the show here, folks.
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Speaker 7: you spot signs of.
Speaker 5: A disturbance, but check your six look in that garbage
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