Speaker 1: Can I get it, ma'am for calling off Big and
Speaker 1: Free Karen Reid Nason. Good evening, everybody. I'm your host DJ,
Speaker 1: and I'm all kinds of excited to be in the
Speaker 1: Joint tonight because guess what. We got some pipe hidden
Speaker 1: gangsters from Canton. The standout warriors are in the house. Man,
Speaker 1: what that together? You know what I'm saying, everybody, We
Speaker 1: got a lively chat. Sherry Dizzle's in the joint. I
Speaker 1: think Julie's in the joint now, oh man, we got
Speaker 1: CPU mod one. I hope that's not Kristen because Kristin
Speaker 1: is supposed to be in the studio. But anyway, yeah, Kristen,
Speaker 1: use the link. Come on in the joint. People are
Speaker 1: already gifting memberships like Sherry because girl is just so
Speaker 1: damn awesome and generous, but you can't and Crusaders, that's
Speaker 1: what's up. That's what's up. Man. We've gotta put that
Speaker 1: big red like the you know, the Knights of I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think the Knights Templar. Sorry, as we're just
Speaker 1: talking about the church in Canton and some drama that's
Speaker 1: going on in the background here. But you know what,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have fun tonight. We're gonna learn something tonight
Speaker 1: from people that are on the ground. So first, let
Speaker 1: me bring in my co host DuJour. You guys know
Speaker 1: her as Massachusetts answer to Helen of Troy. Put it
Speaker 1: together for Beatrice.
Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, what's up homegirl?
Speaker 3: Not much? How are you all right?
Speaker 1: You look lovely tonight. That's not too much of.
Speaker 4: A surprise, right, I got my my Christmas gift to myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're getting Do you know what I got on?
Speaker 1: Right now? Everybody backstage need to know this. This is
Speaker 1: Peter Murphy's uniform shirt. This is Peter Murphy's reform shirt
Speaker 1: that he wore when he was a police officer. Can
Speaker 1: hey you like me?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Look all right, all right, let's get. Let's bring in
Speaker 1: some of these pipe hitting Canton brothers and sisters because
Speaker 1: they are tough, every damn one of them. All right,
Speaker 1: So we get the applause going, let's get. We're gonna
Speaker 1: a little start at the top because he's right next
Speaker 1: to me, so it's gonna be easy to click the
Speaker 1: button next to him. This gentleman right here, former law
Speaker 1: enforcement officer, bad ass doing it. He ain't afraid of
Speaker 1: nothing that she's got got put it out for Scott McGinness.
Speaker 6: Hi, everybody, Scott a boy, what's going on?
Speaker 1: And this uh, this young young gentlemen, young lady are
Speaker 1: so kind. They're so kind to me when I showed
Speaker 1: up there at the Total Boy Halloween party putting together
Speaker 1: for Dennis and Brenda sweet Nay. Can anybody give me
Speaker 1: an a man only men? That's right, bring it up,
Speaker 1: Bring that volume up. This young lady right here. Is
Speaker 1: there anybody in the community. Is there anybody in the
Speaker 1: community that doesn't just love this lady with her spirit
Speaker 1: and her energy. I was talking to her yesterday on
Speaker 1: the phone, and it was just like Matt just right away, man,
Speaker 1: we were just just hitting it, talking about music, and
Speaker 1: we just had a kinship right away. So I got
Speaker 1: one love for I know you do. So put your
Speaker 1: hands together for Dina. Where's my applause?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: This just fade in and out. Man, Streamyard is starting
Speaker 1: to piss me off. Tommy, We're gonna have to have
Speaker 1: a talk with this program, all right. This brother right here,
Speaker 1: I want to mention this brother because not only am
Speaker 1: I wearing his uniform shirt right now, which he gifted me,
Speaker 1: in Franklin at a bar I think it was Teddy
Speaker 1: o'gallagher's in Franklin where we met up and he gifted
Speaker 1: me the shirt, which I'm honored to wear a second
Speaker 1: time on the show with it. He is also one
Speaker 1: of the persons who made this show go along with
Speaker 1: Sean McDonough. They're the ones who put me on the
Speaker 1: Karen Reid map because before that didn't nobody know me.
Speaker 1: And they're like, who is it? Who this guy? We
Speaker 1: don't know who this guy is? Well, this gentleman right here.
Speaker 1: I got to speak with he and Sean and he
Speaker 1: was willing to come up there and hang out with me.
Speaker 1: So I got one love for him, and I know
Speaker 1: you all do also, So put him together. The Sergeant
Speaker 1: Peter Murphy. Peter Murphy by everyone, Peter loves my interview.
Speaker 1: He's like, what the hell am I going to do
Speaker 1: with what this dude says?
Speaker 5: Man, I never know what's coming my way. I never
Speaker 5: did before either, though nothing's changed.
Speaker 1: He must think I'm a total whack job, all right.
Speaker 7: Not only not only is this a Canton brother of
Speaker 7: all these folks, to stand out warrior and someone who
Speaker 7: documents the comings and goings at the court.
Speaker 1: Whether it's Turtle Boy, our brother Turtle Boy, or our
Speaker 1: sister Karen Reid, this gentleman is here to document it.
Speaker 1: And he also, like everyone else on this panel, has
Speaker 1: offered their friendship to me, which means more than anything.
Speaker 1: He's also a content creator, brother of mine. He has
Speaker 1: a great show. He's also getting ready to do a
Speaker 1: standout there on the twenty ninth for Officer John o'keeth.
Speaker 1: That is gonna be twenty four hours. So I want
Speaker 1: everybody to put those hands together for Tommy cpu. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can I get a.
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hi, Tommy, how you doing?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 3: We got Tommy.
Speaker 1: We got big time love for you in this joint.
Speaker 1: You know that, right.
Speaker 2: I'm just not used to it, that's what you know. Well, guys, it's.
Speaker 9: Not that cold today. It looks like in a aren't
Speaker 9: wearing that thing?
Speaker 2: I loved.
Speaker 10: This is one of the best things I've bought. I
Speaker 10: love this shirt. I don't know if you guys can
Speaker 10: see it right?
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah?
Speaker 1: The team read it says something. What does that say?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 11: Alan Jackson?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I love it?
Speaker 10: Amazing Again, the people people that are on the screen here,
Speaker 10: Why this is all a success.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 10: This is why I think this has gotten around the world.
Speaker 10: There was a time when we were just streaming this
Speaker 10: to ourselves, like there's maybe what three hundred four hundred
Speaker 10: of us talking about ourselves, remember those days.
Speaker 2: This is this is worldwide. Now look at what we did.
Speaker 1: Yes, look at what you did. That's why we are here.
Speaker 9: None of us knew each other a year and a
Speaker 9: half ago.
Speaker 1: Imagine that that was gonna be one of my questions.
Speaker 1: But before we get too deep in this dialogue, we
Speaker 1: got one more Homegirl to I'm on here that I
Speaker 1: have not met and I know nothing about other than
Speaker 1: she was recommended by CPU, and damn it, that's good
Speaker 1: enough for me. So party people, get the cheeto dust
Speaker 1: off your fingers and put them together for Christen. Home Girl,
Speaker 1: it's good to meet you on DJ.
Speaker 11: Nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: On the back Yeah where oh yeah, yessid.
Speaker 12: Would bring the bird down to the front lines when
Speaker 12: we were at the cornhouse, like it was amazing.
Speaker 1: She's not only a bed she's got her own bed mate,
Speaker 1: all right. Uh, esty's in the joint. There's a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of people in the chat. And so let me
Speaker 1: just give you a go, oh, Mark is here, my
Speaker 1: brother from uh Dean College. What's up? Mark?
Speaker 5: From Dan.
Speaker 1: And there's a whole lot of people we're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to say, oh, clock me, Hey, Sherry Dials, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you love. She's already making all these Peter Murphy
Speaker 1: deserves a million dollar super Chat for speaking out. I
Speaker 1: know Peter Murphy is a serious badass man. That's that's
Speaker 1: all I got to say. Already, we've ket cherry d
Speaker 1: the cat ladies. Thank you cat lady.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 1: See, here's what's going on. I want to let everybody
Speaker 1: know what the ro o s are so that we
Speaker 1: get this thing going. And then we're gonna engage with
Speaker 1: you the chat because we love you and you're a
Speaker 1: big part of the show and you're a big part
Speaker 1: of the movement. Without you, we have no content creators.
Speaker 1: So let's go with this. So we're gonna start going.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with Dina just because she's time limited tonight. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, the way the lineup is sitting now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to move Dina right over here. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move Dina over to Scott's pace. There we go.
Speaker 1: Now we got it. So Now we could start with
Speaker 1: Dina and then we'll go Peter, Scott, Dennis, Brenda, Tom, Cpu,
Speaker 1: and Kristen. Okay, So the way it'll work, everybody has
Speaker 1: some sort of a topic, a question or this fancy
Speaker 1: word hypothesis that they can throw out there and the
Speaker 1: group will react. So Dina will start, Peter will react
Speaker 1: to her topic, then Tom excuse me, then Scott, Dennis, Brenda, Tom, Kristen,
Speaker 1: and then the next person will go. Then it'll be
Speaker 1: Sergeant Murphy. We're gonna put the pressure on him right away,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 13: And then then from there we want to be brief
Speaker 13: and succynct with our topics and our answers, because once
Speaker 13: we finished this formal part with you Knights of the
Speaker 13: Canton round Table, then we're gonna engage with the chat,
Speaker 13: take questions and just kind of have a pillow fight.
Speaker 13: So hopefully you have a pill a feather pillow.
Speaker 1: Somewhere there there, because I know all of you want
Speaker 1: to hit Beatrice with your pillow and probably me. All right,
Speaker 1: so I'm kidding Beatrice, I know you got a pillow,
Speaker 1: rid and hit me. Okay, Boston, Brandy, Welcome, Welcome, everybody.
Speaker 1: I love you, guys are here. We're gonna engage with
Speaker 1: you after we get through the formal part of this.
Speaker 1: And Ken Hathaway's here from England. Helloth Away, Notingham. All right,
Speaker 1: we got through that, Okay, all right, so let's let's
Speaker 1: start off with Dina the Legend with her topic.
Speaker 12: Well, hello, everybody, one and Tom Cpu is totally right,
Speaker 12: like this is worldwide now and.
Speaker 3: No one.
Speaker 12: I this is my first time on here, so thank
Speaker 12: you for having me, really.
Speaker 1: Thank you for agreeing to come on.
Speaker 12: Absolutely and it's and Beatrice, and I mean, you are
Speaker 12: a legend in itself. I'm telling you, you do so
Speaker 12: much for this movement.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. So kudos to you guys, you know, because
Speaker 3: the world wouldn't.
Speaker 12: Know about this unless we have all these content creators
Speaker 12: doing this.
Speaker 3: For one.
Speaker 12: But I really struggled with what you know, questions of
Speaker 12: hypothesis and everything else of what you talked about, and
Speaker 12: what I came up with is a lot of stuff
Speaker 12: has covered a lot on all these different channels. But
Speaker 12: my question to everybody is I wanted to talk about
Speaker 12: restraining orders, how easy they are to get into in
Speaker 12: Massachusetts and people lying to get them. So my question
Speaker 12: to everyone is, do you think because of this movement
Speaker 12: between Karen Reid and Turtle Boy, do you think we're
Speaker 12: gonna make a change in Massachusetts to how people get
Speaker 12: restraining orders falsify them? Do you think it's going to
Speaker 12: change the laws here? Peter Murphy, Now.
Speaker 5: So when you say restraining orders, you're talking not domestic
Speaker 5: violence restraining orders necessarily. You're talking stay away order type
Speaker 5: of thing.
Speaker 12: The whole compass of it with what has happened between
Speaker 12: Turtle Boy, you know, getting these you know, restraining orders
Speaker 12: on them, Kate Peters not even going to jail for
Speaker 12: fault for violating them constantly, right right.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean going back in a few years back,
Speaker 5: just to give you a little history, you know, on
Speaker 5: the on the restraining order, a police officer would get
Speaker 5: called to a scene and one of two parties male, female,
Speaker 5: didn't matter, would make allegations that the other person had
Speaker 5: pushed them so forth. And I think that's what brings
Speaker 5: you back to the story that got aid and jammed
Speaker 5: up correct on that on that evening, uh, And that
Speaker 5: I guess there's a side story or backstory with that
Speaker 5: as to whether or not he was set up. Well,
Speaker 5: we'll leave that for somebody else to talk about. But
Speaker 5: it was a time that as a police officer, you
Speaker 5: went to a scene and you almost had to be
Speaker 5: a doctor, a psychologist and everything, because if if you
Speaker 5: didn't see red marks or a bloody nose, you know,
Speaker 5: you tried to separate the parties, tell somebody to go
Speaker 5: stay somewhere else for the night, and that kind of
Speaker 5: was the end of the story. And then they gave
Speaker 5: us the power that the complainant, the victim became an
Speaker 5: inherently reliable person. From there we could make an arrest
Speaker 5: and take them out of the house, and that made
Speaker 5: a big difference. But I think what you're speaking to,
Speaker 5: if I understoodure correcting, you know, is that you think
Speaker 5: this is the pendulum has swung too far?
Speaker 9: Correct?
Speaker 5: Is that what you're Yeah, definitely correct.
Speaker 3: Due to this these cases here.
Speaker 1: Right, someone would have to bring that before state the
Speaker 1: state House, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you'd have to rewrite the you know,
Speaker 5: you'd have to rewrite the law on it as to
Speaker 5: you know, how it goes. And you're right, I mean,
Speaker 5: if you think about it, you know how many of
Speaker 5: these cases are being brought into court that we are
Speaker 5: just aware about, you know, aware of with what a
Speaker 5: couple of people here, say a half dozen people that
Speaker 5: are playing pickleball back and forth, ping pong, ping bang,
Speaker 5: being bing, can imagine how much it's wearing on the
Speaker 5: court system and dragging, you know, dragging, uh, slowing it down.
Speaker 5: So to answer your question, I guess Scott might be
Speaker 5: able to look at this too, is uh, they would
Speaker 5: have to be a change. Who's gonna who's gonna push
Speaker 5: for the change? I don't know. I mean, you take
Speaker 5: something away and somebody starts getting hurt or you know,
Speaker 5: intimidated or or harassed, and now you've kind of re
Speaker 5: implemented the problem again. So I don't know how that
Speaker 5: we'll get fixed. I really don't.
Speaker 9: And arm you.
Speaker 5: That makes two of us go, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Dennis and Brenda, what do you think, loves.
Speaker 14: Well, the big problem you had with that is there
Speaker 14: are real people that really need to.
Speaker 8: Be kept safe.
Speaker 14: So if you go back to far the other way,
Speaker 14: like you said, somebody's going to get hurt and you
Speaker 14: don't want you don't want that because that's.
Speaker 5: Right, right, that's not what we're looking for. The other problem,
Speaker 5: I think Dina mentioned it too, and Brendan, you're familiar
Speaker 5: with that. You sat with me at court. And what's
Speaker 5: Rocksbury is there are people that are being brought through
Speaker 5: the system for the fourth and fifth time for violations
Speaker 5: non compliance of thirty thirty days of or thirty hours
Speaker 5: of community service, and they walk out the door like nothing,
Speaker 5: Like nothing's wrong.
Speaker 14: Well, you have to she's the exception to the rule
Speaker 14: because she's working for Marscy, and as long as Marcy
Speaker 14: is in office, she's gonna be free to do whatever
Speaker 14: she wants.
Speaker 12: That's what I mean by these cases are gonna do
Speaker 12: you think they're shining a light because there's abuse of
Speaker 12: getting the restraining orders and people are abusing other people
Speaker 12: because they're violating them. Like I to me, I think
Speaker 12: it's shining a light on something's gonna change here. I mean,
Speaker 12: I'm I'm shocked at how much Kate Peters walks out
Speaker 12: of court for violating it. And it's like she grins
Speaker 12: because Morrissy is protecting her.
Speaker 15: I mean, Scott, he'd better more her case than she's been.
Speaker 9: Understood the format of this panelo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, we're so now.
Speaker 9: We're talking arrows of hbos.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we're gonna come back to you. We'll come
Speaker 1: back when we come back around if you have a
Speaker 1: follow up, Dina. But we got to kind of go
Speaker 1: into order in order to make the roundtable low. So
Speaker 1: when it's just wait until it's your turn, if you would,
Speaker 1: so we can keep it flowing. So the next one
Speaker 1: is Tommy, and basically I mean I just want to
Speaker 1: throw in here just as my own is that I
Speaker 1: think Mark Betteroh and both Melanie and Little who are
Speaker 1: two premiere attorneys in our group. Pierre say that the
Speaker 1: law was written very It's a very very weak law,
Speaker 1: one of the two or three weakest in the country,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the reasons they can exploit it.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, tom take it away, sir.
Speaker 2: So let's go back even further.
Speaker 10: The reason for it was to protect one party or
Speaker 10: the other if there was a problem.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people just don't get along. It happens.
Speaker 10: So the law was you can go in one person, separate, separates,
Speaker 10: you have to can you cannot go any other person.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 10: There's too many people that are corrupt for any of
Speaker 10: it to go to the next level.
Speaker 2: Because if if.
Speaker 10: If Kate got Saint Peter arrested Kate for violating the order.
Speaker 10: Say he witnessed it, and he wrote the order, and
Speaker 10: he witnessed the violation of it. Even Peter can't do
Speaker 10: anything about that, right if he witnessed, even being a cop,
Speaker 10: is he gonna get involved in it? Because now Peter's
Speaker 10: gonna start running up the chain of command until he
Speaker 10: gets pushed back.
Speaker 2: Then he's gonna get.
Speaker 10: His balls busted for this, that, and everything else just
Speaker 10: by doing his job. Dick, He's gonna run up the
Speaker 10: chain again if he sees another violation. No, doesn't. This
Speaker 10: is Massachusetts. This is how the system is. It's gonna
Speaker 10: be this way until you get rid of one thing,
Speaker 10: which is qualified immunity. You have to take the responsibility
Speaker 10: off of the government because they have no responsibility. Put
Speaker 10: it on the police officers. Make them do their job
Speaker 10: because right now they're just collecting money. They're writing their
Speaker 10: own check.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 10: This is a money grab. I mean the police officers
Speaker 10: are not They do not have to protect you. That
Speaker 10: is not their job. If that lady that was on
Speaker 10: fire in the New York and that lady that the
Speaker 10: cops sit and watch to burn, because guess what, it's
Speaker 10: not their job. They're not going in to save lives.
Speaker 10: That is not their job. You think they care about you, wrong.
Speaker 10: They don't care about any of us, and they're using
Speaker 10: the system that they wrote to prosecute Karen.
Speaker 2: This is gonna stop.
Speaker 10: Think about a system that allows a brand new cop
Speaker 10: to be murdered inside of the academy.
Speaker 2: You're surrounding first responders.
Speaker 10: I don't put like how you're the safest place you
Speaker 10: could ever be, surrounded by cops.
Speaker 2: There's a lot with that to you guys.
Speaker 10: If you guys knew half of what I know, you'd
Speaker 10: be I'm almost ready to throw up.
Speaker 1: I'm already. I'm ready to throw up with what is
Speaker 1: obvious just from his injuries. Let me just say one thing, Tommy, Tommy,
Speaker 1: do you have any mods that are in the chat?
Speaker 1: You do? If you're in the chat?
Speaker 11: Chat?
Speaker 1: Kevin from South Boston has a mouth on him.
Speaker 2: So kick him out, Nickknack, take care of Kevin.
Speaker 1: Somebody whoever's in the chat, because I.
Speaker 2: Can't be pretty good about it.
Speaker 1: I can't kick him out because he's in your stream.
Speaker 1: He's coming from your your stream, But kicked him out
Speaker 1: of there. He's got a big mouth.
Speaker 10: But is here mas another legend?
Speaker 2: But again do I think? No, I don't not.
Speaker 5: Not.
Speaker 2: Each case has to be handled separate.
Speaker 10: If you had a decent judge that wasn't corrupted and
Speaker 10: he looked at the facts with Aiden, he would say,
Speaker 10: get out, don't waste my time, get out of here.
Speaker 2: He legitimate because it's a waste of time.
Speaker 1: Not better.
Speaker 10: Yet, when you have evidence that's brought to judge canon
Speaker 10: of the sally Port with altered video, then you have
Speaker 10: Aiden's thing that has altered text messages, there's a problem,
Speaker 10: and you're allowing this as evidence against you. No, that's
Speaker 10: how broken the system is because they allow that.
Speaker 2: Do you guys see that? And Betty?
Speaker 10: Yet if they missing a piece of paper up big
Speaker 10: all sign that here you go.
Speaker 2: It's just it's not good man.
Speaker 1: Pull on one second. This this punk with the mouth
Speaker 1: one of all that's with Tom. Kick him out because
Speaker 1: we cannot. I can't kick him out because he's coming
Speaker 1: from your stream. But kick his kick his big ass
Speaker 1: mouth out of here.
Speaker 5: Hey DJ yeah, yeah, can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 5: If there's a point of information you may or may
Speaker 5: not have come across your desk, was it the the
Speaker 5: other night.
Speaker 1: Who was it?
Speaker 5: Who was the podcasters that were on there? It was JFK,
Speaker 5: wasn't it? And a guy from Sophie called in named Kevin. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's not him. I don't know if it's him or not.
Speaker 5: I just want him out of my chat.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care who it is. If
Speaker 1: it's if it's If it's actually Higgins, then I've got
Speaker 1: plenty to say to him. You know, I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: talking about his medals and decorations and how you get
Speaker 1: decorated for leaving an officer down, how you get decorated for,
Speaker 1: you know, for helping to injure an officer leaving the scene.
Speaker 1: I just I want to kind of get into a
Speaker 1: little dialogue about his decorations. But he's he's a punk obviously,
Speaker 1: and he's a and he's a puss because he never
Speaker 1: responded to Karen after the injury, so he just, you know,
Speaker 1: his consciousness of guilt just came in in spades there.
Speaker 1: So all right, I'm sorry, let's continue. It's miss Kristen.
Speaker 1: It looks like someone. Where's Peter Murf? Peter's there? Who
Speaker 1: do we lose? Scottie?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there he is Scott, right, ma'am. The topic goes
Speaker 1: to you, ma'am.
Speaker 11: Restraining waders, right, yes, okay, So I worked in law
Speaker 11: enforcement are like maybe fifteen years or so, and there's
Speaker 11: definitely been like a huge change from when, yeah, like
Speaker 11: they took restraining orders and hpos very serious and now
Speaker 11: it's like going to Walmart and you can just buy one,
Speaker 11: like anybody can get one and everybody can walk right
Speaker 11: through them. And it's it's sad, I mean, you know,
Speaker 11: being a woman and like, if I ever really needed it,
Speaker 11: I think twice about calm a police department, Like what
Speaker 11: are they going to do? Really? I mean, And it's
Speaker 11: sad that I have to think that because there are
Speaker 11: so many women out there that not even just women,
Speaker 11: but men too like that need this order and they
Speaker 11: need this protection and they're afraid to get it because
Speaker 11: they just a lot of people look at it as
Speaker 11: just a piece of paper, like Okay, that's a piece
Speaker 11: of paper. I can walk right through that piece of paper.
Speaker 11: And it's not fair, and like you just walk down
Speaker 11: the street and can't and bam, you get a restraining
Speaker 11: order put on you just just for walking down the
Speaker 11: street and it's so sad, and I really hope that
Speaker 11: Marcy takes a hike and we get some change and
Speaker 11: we go back to the way it was where we
Speaker 11: take these orders. Seriously, it needs to change. I don't
Speaker 11: unfortunately right now I don't have hope for it, but
Speaker 11: it's got to change. I mean, I have two young kids,
Speaker 11: and I have a daughter, and I hope she never
Speaker 11: needs the police someday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know she will. We all, we
Speaker 1: all do. I mean that's what's so important about about
Speaker 1: you know, the police and why you know we need
Speaker 1: them so badly. We just need them to be honest
Speaker 1: and also to understand that they're that the law applies
Speaker 1: to them as well. I know it's a crazy concept
Speaker 1: to some of these guys, uh in the MSP and Canton.
Speaker 1: I know it's something that it's a really strange thing.
Speaker 1: But and hey, Tommy would end up happening. I had
Speaker 1: to cut your feed because nobody there was a guy
Speaker 1: in there talking stuff, call me a bunch of names,
Speaker 1: and nobody removed him. So being that I can't remove him,
Speaker 1: I had to cut your stream. I didn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to do that, but none of the mods just yeah.
Speaker 2: None of the mods.
Speaker 1: Took care of it, so at least nothing I could do.
Speaker 2: People know that we're on they'll find you and they'll
Speaker 2: come here. That's that's yep matter.
Speaker 1: And I want to say this somebody there the Dixie
Speaker 1: enormous that's pretending to be my friend, John, I am
Speaker 1: more than willing to meet up with you in person
Speaker 1: and we can settle it. If you got something to
Speaker 1: say to me, say it to my face. Don't be
Speaker 1: a pussy and come online and say it online. Let's
Speaker 1: do it man to man, I'll be there.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 10: They know where I am with my camera and all
Speaker 10: the time, like twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 2: They know where I'm at. They've never come and visit me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come come see me, man, I'm going to be there.
Speaker 1: You and I can settle it one on one and
Speaker 1: even if I lose, you won't win.
Speaker 9: So one last thing with this our RO and our
Speaker 9: h you know HPO.
Speaker 6: So if we go back in history, they started off
Speaker 6: simply as domestic relationship arrows, right, and then they evolved
Speaker 6: and then the hpos came into existence.
Speaker 9: Peter Woudo, if you go back in time and when
Speaker 9: you added the HPO.
Speaker 6: You can take out an harassment prevention order on anybody,
Speaker 6: even somebody that you're not in a personal relationship with.
Speaker 6: That's where that's where the slippery slope was, and that's
Speaker 6: how that's where we've gotten where we are today with them.
Speaker 6: Now people are abusing them right in my opinion.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening, man, that's what's happening. So I think
Speaker 1: you guys have made awesome points there. That was a
Speaker 1: great one. Dina, do you have anything that or be out,
Speaker 1: did you have anything? We'll get Dina and then we'll
Speaker 1: go on to the next topic.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think what you guys said is
Speaker 4: all right. I mean I think it's everything gets overused
Speaker 4: and then that's when we have problems and then when
Speaker 4: you really do the people that really do need it,
Speaker 4: you know, that's it's awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one other thing I want to say to
Speaker 1: somebody in the chat. I know that Dixie Enormous is
Speaker 1: John Como. What I'm telling you is someone is pretending
Speaker 1: to be John Como because he went in the Glare's
Speaker 1: chat the other day and was taking a shot at Grace,
Speaker 1: who is our guest. Grace from Dream feed Media was
Speaker 1: our wonderful guest, and John came on the show and
Speaker 1: had a wonderful dialogue. But what this fake Dixie enormous
Speaker 1: did was to go in the chat Claire's Chat, pretend
Speaker 1: to be John and say negative things about Grace's voice,
Speaker 1: which I told John about today. So you haven't fooled anybody,
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't fooled anybody. We we know cowards
Speaker 1: when when we see them. So you calling it to me,
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. But I'm gonna be in Massachusetts, so
Speaker 1: you can you know, we can meet up and we
Speaker 1: can you know, we can settle it. So no problem.
Speaker 1: I'll be there. Come see me at the at the
Speaker 1: free carent Rey Dinner and we can settle it. There.
Speaker 1: He is, That's what I'm talking about right there? Where
Speaker 1: is he? Where's the legend.
Speaker 2: At the real one?
Speaker 16: Day?
Speaker 5: John?
Speaker 1: Come on, that's the real one?
Speaker 5: Enough?
Speaker 2: Can't said him? What a great guy?
Speaker 1: John? He's you just yeah, he's so genuine and he's
Speaker 1: so he plays this kind of you know character for
Speaker 1: a reason. But boy is he smart? Boy? Is he smart?
Speaker 1: Really really smart?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I get it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I know. He's like way ahead of me. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I know John, he said, I literally said I loved
Speaker 1: their voice. And then this person, this coward, shows up
Speaker 1: in Glare's chat trying to pretend he's you, and he
Speaker 1: wishes he was you. But that's what haters are, they wish.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go on to the next person. We
Speaker 1: have someone who will be donating apparently will be donating
Speaker 1: hair to me in twenty twenty five after his next haircut.
Speaker 1: Tom's cpu.
Speaker 10: Mine's kind of easy, okay, like everyone's at home, everyone's watching,
Speaker 10: right and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But we don't see a couple of things.
Speaker 10: We don't see the video or well, we have lack
Speaker 10: of video evidence of anything anything remotely close to have
Speaker 10: to do with thirty four fair Vie video app. There's
Speaker 10: ring cameras, there's ATM cameras, there's traffic cameras, there's flock cameras,
Speaker 10: there's cameras, cameras, cameras. You don't see one one video
Speaker 10: we did see.
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 10: It was absolutely just destroyed, a barb elation of of
Speaker 10: the sally Port. You're telling me all the money that
Speaker 10: they give the town a cant and they can't buy
Speaker 10: better cameras.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 10: So with that said in what we're up against, to
Speaker 10: see the people stand up, the people that are out
Speaker 10: there that are fighting, that are holding these signs, that
Speaker 10: are in the rain, in the snow, in the cold,
Speaker 10: in the hot, in the really hot, in the in
Speaker 10: the downpours.
Speaker 2: When all of a sudden we had this much rain.
Speaker 10: I mean, you guys remember just just just opened up
Speaker 10: one day and we was just dinux numbers. Remember that,
Speaker 10: Dennis amazing.
Speaker 2: But we all hung in there, didn't we Right, We
Speaker 2: didn't go anywhere. We're all laughing about it.
Speaker 10: So, you know, I think the people, the people that
Speaker 10: make this movement up, the people on the screen and
Speaker 10: the people that were like John Kmoda in the chat
Speaker 10: and Sharry that theres a lot of modding the people
Speaker 10: that are here doing what we're doing every night. That's
Speaker 10: the real magic that we got going on, you know.
Speaker 10: And to have people who are negative try and take
Speaker 10: a nip at you here, I mean they'll attack Scott,
Speaker 10: they'll create drama with Scott, who doesn't do anything but
Speaker 10: stand out there and hold a flag. I mean, so
Speaker 10: they're out there and people remember you can change your
Speaker 10: name to anything, you know, and they can go up
Speaker 10: and say what they want. It's not necessarily that person
Speaker 10: who's saying it. So there's ways around that too. So
Speaker 10: take everything with a grain of salt of urn. Just
Speaker 10: kind of take a little step back, just one little
Speaker 10: step back, and look at it. And man, the people
Speaker 10: that in this movement, h that's next level. And to
Speaker 10: be part of it and to be to record all this,
Speaker 10: I mean, how can I not?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 2: I mean, we have something special here.
Speaker 10: This only happens once in my lifetime, right, I don't
Speaker 10: why I can't do this twice? Right, So exactly right,
Speaker 10: everyone's putting everything in it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 10: In the meantime, we're becoming friends, we know each other, right.
Speaker 10: It's just that there's so much goodness out there, and
Speaker 10: I think this is bringing us all together, you know,
Speaker 10: the good people are coming together.
Speaker 2: So I think that's the real, the real story here.
Speaker 2: But the lack of video evidence is troubling to me.
Speaker 10: In the zero video evidence, that's that's the problem.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think John alluded to it in the chat. He said, well,
Speaker 1: Helena needed to have upgrade the kitchen. Uh so they
Speaker 1: couldn't get new cameras, So maybe it's like they needed
Speaker 1: that go from that seven hundred to the fifteen hundred microwave.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Peter, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, it's a thousand dollars one hundred thousand dollars kitchen
Speaker 5: and solo item, wasn't it wasn't that what we were looking.
Speaker 1: They probably have like Viking like gas, you know, Viking
Speaker 1: professional level chef kind of kitchen and can't be It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: throw a burrito on the microwave. Man, Come on, what
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Grab your salad out of the freezer?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: Probably overwek So anyway, go ahead, Peter, what you got
Speaker 1: on that?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 17: Uh?
Speaker 5: You want to meet to talk about Tommy responded Tommy's issue. Yes, please, yes, exactly,
Speaker 5: you know, to bost of what he has said, and
Speaker 5: it's been said many times before.
Speaker 9: I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Free State tips that. Yeah, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: not worth firing anybody breaking be and E and then
Speaker 1: and then larceny or whatever the hell that charge would be.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Peter, it's gonna be hard for me to
Speaker 5: get back to boots on the ground. But videos but no,
Speaker 5: Tommy's right body cameras, uh dash cameras. My understanding is
Speaker 5: that a name that recently came up or an incident,
Speaker 5: the Craig Casey crash on Pleasant Street one of those situations.
Speaker 5: I think everybody's familiar with it. Police responded. There's a
Speaker 5: lot of work being done behind the scenes right now,
Speaker 5: which some of you may be familiar with. If you're not,
Speaker 5: we can talk about our back backstage. But cameras, body cameras,
Speaker 5: dash cameras. It just seems like, you know, everything can
Speaker 5: be usurruped if you know, if there's a nefarious need
Speaker 5: to do it, we start in the stally put so,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I think at some point in time,
Speaker 5: everybody's gonna have to wear a camera. There's going to
Speaker 5: be cameras and cruises in nine ways a Sunday, and
Speaker 5: we'll see what happens it. Obviously, the lack of them,
Speaker 5: or the lack of initiative by law enforcement to look
Speaker 5: at all the video cameras and ring cameras all up
Speaker 5: and down ceeda Crest Road in Dedham Street, you know,
Speaker 5: could have changed this whole case around very quickly.
Speaker 1: Right, Dennis Brenda. It's a great way not to have
Speaker 1: evidence when you're trying to frame somebody, is to make
Speaker 1: sure you don't have evidence, so can all be inferencing innuendo?
Speaker 14: Well, Ken is the Bermuda triangle of video equipment.
Speaker 1: That library video.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 14: But they did they did come out and take a
Speaker 14: picture of the church entrant's only sign when they were
Speaker 14: well they're getting ready to send Peter his summons. They
Speaker 14: came out with the tablet and took a picture of
Speaker 14: That's fine, so that's going to be in your court case.
Speaker 5: It's going to be a picture of the.
Speaker 9: The no trust assing.
Speaker 14: Signs under the snow banks and you couldn't see it.
Speaker 1: Come come see Come see me, Beard, Come see me
Speaker 1: when I'm there. Let's let's get into it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: You and I can go one on one.
Speaker 5: I'll put my three D glasses on the next time
Speaker 5: I'm driving around.
Speaker 14: And supposedly, starting in November, the officers in Canton have
Speaker 14: body cameras. Oh really actually turn them on. Yeah, but
Speaker 14: supposedly starting no.
Speaker 9: Because he want a crash.
Speaker 6: But he was saying that she had the cameras, but
Speaker 6: he couldn't afford the system to run them.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Well that was when she was starting the whole thing
Speaker 14: to evaluate whether the get the capital money for him.
Speaker 14: That was her big thing was the however you saved
Speaker 14: the video. That was the storage. Video storage was expensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing actually a mod's when somebody comes in
Speaker 1: that comes in there and you see them troll. You
Speaker 1: guys know the cab rules. Anybody on this panel, you
Speaker 1: get rid of them, not not time out. It's banned.
Speaker 1: So please don't wait for me to do that. R
Speaker 1: I P. President Carter. That was a great uh statesman
Speaker 1: okay years old? Good long? Yeah, I mean he's got
Speaker 1: a list of from nuclear program to you know, being
Speaker 1: a statesman. But yeah, anyway, please go ahead. Uh who
Speaker 1: is next? I believe it is. I believe it is
Speaker 1: miss Kristen.
Speaker 16: Cameras equipment, you know, Yeah, I just I find it
Speaker 16: very odd that like cameras, the cameras work perfectly fine
Speaker 16: all the time except for when they need to.
Speaker 11: Doesn't make sense to me. And why didn't they knock
Speaker 11: on everybody's door in the neighborhood, like I don't know,
Speaker 11: And why didn't like other people come forward with like
Speaker 11: video and.
Speaker 15: When you had the video, because we had the video
Speaker 15: and you get the police report back after they look
Speaker 15: at the video, and the police reports a bunch of shit,
Speaker 15: So it.
Speaker 11: Doesn't matter true, You're right, You're right.
Speaker 9: I mean I've tell.
Speaker 6: Her his door, but all he had to offer was
Speaker 6: solo cups and stopping shop bags.
Speaker 9: He said his three cameras didn't work.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I.
Speaker 11: Got going on up there, solo and bags I put
Speaker 11: up there like it's it's just it's ridiculous. I mean,
Speaker 11: I don't buy it. I mean, and from what I
Speaker 11: heard is Tractor used to be like a phenomenal investigator,
Speaker 11: Like he crossed all his te he's dotted all his eyes.
Speaker 11: I mean, he was awesome. But when it happened to John,
Speaker 11: he still was still.
Speaker 9: He did a great job on the walls. He screwed
Speaker 9: up the can.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean come on, I mean, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: We we've talked about this. I think I've talked about
Speaker 1: this one with several of you folks, definitely with Peter.
Speaker 2: He's got three cameras in the front of his house.
Speaker 5: Right, do.
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think Kristen about Like,
Speaker 1: how do you feel like Keller her Is is going
Speaker 1: to process this if he had do you? First of all,
Speaker 1: do you think he's seen the actual video? Do you
Speaker 1: think he you think? Okay, so how do you think
Speaker 1: he processes what's going on right now and that this
Speaker 1: woman is on she's you know, obviously bankrupted at this point,
Speaker 1: she's five million plus dollars in debt, she's on trial
Speaker 1: for her life for the second time, and who knows,
Speaker 1: there's nothing to prevent them from trying her a third time.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think that? How do
Speaker 1: you think kell her process is this?
Speaker 11: He probably didn't expect it to go this far, and
Speaker 11: he's probably like, well, I'm already this deep in it.
Speaker 11: I might as well just keep going with it because like, well,
Speaker 11: if Karen did do it, he would have the video
Speaker 11: that proved it mm hmm, and he could just put
Speaker 11: her away, end up.
Speaker 3: Story, right, like right, come on exactly.
Speaker 11: I mean, so you got to think of that of
Speaker 11: it that way, Like you know, like he had the
Speaker 11: video footage if she ran him over, and it would
Speaker 11: be over and done with, throw her in jail if
Speaker 11: she if she did it. But he didn't have that
Speaker 11: kind of footage. He had other footage.
Speaker 1: Right, That's the whole that's the whole thing. But how
Speaker 1: does he sleep at night like Scott would set night?
Speaker 6: Does he not also commercials running?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 9: Now, how do you sleep at night? What's the mattress company?
Speaker 1: You have to be some sort of a sociopath. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 11: The first thing that would be going through my head
Speaker 11: is my children. Sorry, you might be my best friend,
Speaker 11: but I kind of like my kids more than I
Speaker 11: like you. So yeah, but that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 9: That's one of.
Speaker 6: The reasons they're all sticking together here, is they're trying
Speaker 6: to protect their own children and their own families.
Speaker 9: And the only way this whole thing works.
Speaker 18: Is they all have to double quick, triple down on
Speaker 18: this and just stick with it.
Speaker 9: That's why nobody can break from the group.
Speaker 11: They're really good liars because I can't believe like nobody
Speaker 11: slipped yet or not slipped.
Speaker 2: But like that's why they had the meeting. That's it.
Speaker 11: I'm done.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your thoughts on so this? You know,
Speaker 1: super Squirrel is asking the question right here? Any thoughts
Speaker 1: on that? Anybody who requests the deletion of his security?
Speaker 12: Yeah, if they asked him that question, which he's gonna
Speaker 12: lie Anyways, he saw that video. He knows exactly what happened.
Speaker 12: He's covered for them all.
Speaker 1: The question The.
Speaker 6: Question is tell her was a civilian, the police would
Speaker 6: have got the video from his house, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, but the question they're asking is who do
Speaker 1: you suppose that the question is kind of hidden in there.
Speaker 1: There should be like a yeah common there, Yeah, who requested?
Speaker 1: So does anybody have all the way?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody official, no one in the chain of command.
Speaker 6: Well don't you have Brian Albert Collin tell her that
Speaker 6: that night was he calling caller her saying, hey, are
Speaker 6: you up and erase your uh there?
Speaker 12: He called us all the way.
Speaker 10: Keller he called that morning and said that he was
Speaker 10: at the different address.
Speaker 8: Remember that's what Higgins went out bet to him.
Speaker 15: And Higgins is missing all the time he was over
Speaker 15: over Burger was his house.
Speaker 11: Yes, Brian, everyone's afraid of Brian.
Speaker 12: I think everybody's afraid of Brian. And he's got pull.
Speaker 12: He still has pull. And he went on. He knew
Speaker 12: exactly what happened, and he contacted Keller her right away
Speaker 12: and they erased that.
Speaker 8: A lot of now burg Woods is out of the pictures.
Speaker 8: So now what happens.
Speaker 12: Hopefully Burkeie left a little thing to clear his conscience
Speaker 12: before we met his maker, because he's either meeting God
Speaker 12: or he's meeting the devil.
Speaker 8: We'll find out his kid's still on the foros and
Speaker 8: see what he does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I think did we get everybody? Or
Speaker 1: did Scott? Did you have something that you want to answer?
Speaker 9: All right?
Speaker 6: Well, I keep when I jumped out of chat, I
Speaker 6: got put to the bottom. But that's okay, yeah, okay
Speaker 6: in the corner, Okay.
Speaker 9: I wanted to change the object a little bit. I
Speaker 9: cleaned out my truck and this is what ended up
Speaker 9: in the bag.
Speaker 18: I got rubber ducky free can read buttons.
Speaker 1: Oh man, all this stuff.
Speaker 18: It under my seats, you know, these famous things. Oh wait,
Speaker 18: all these bracelets, all this stuff. You know, it's pretty amazing,
Speaker 18: all this stuff that I've.
Speaker 9: Accumiliated in my truck, you know, I mean it makes
Speaker 9: me think of the Free Can Reave movement as a whole.
Speaker 6: And and you know when I started going down there
Speaker 6: in person, and July of twenty twenty three, not knowing
Speaker 6: any of these great people, being a little nervous about going.
Speaker 6: And now you know where we are today, you know,
Speaker 6: in how this Free Karen re movement has come together
Speaker 6: and we're all sticking together, and you know, it's an
Speaker 6: amazing so proud to be with everybody here.
Speaker 9: I know how strong everybody is.
Speaker 6: And you know, it's kind of when I was cleaning
Speaker 6: up my truck and I found all that, you know,
Speaker 6: and like even my uniform that I wear, you know,
Speaker 6: I have these things hanging, you know, and like even
Speaker 6: this this stupid ribbon.
Speaker 9: I think Brenda handed these, Yeah she did, and I
Speaker 9: I'll wear it till there's no threads left. You know.
Speaker 9: It's like a sentimental thing. Now, yeah, can.
Speaker 1: We give a shout out to Terry real quick? Yes,
Speaker 1: there she goes, So she's she's asking if you pulled
Speaker 1: up outside of the house your sister lived in there
Speaker 1: were was a dead person on the lawn and your sister, husband,
Speaker 1: nieces or nephews weren't outside, wouldn't you be banging on
Speaker 1: the door? Yeah, you know what, Yeah, Terry, this is
Speaker 1: something a lot of people ask. But this is to
Speaker 1: put some modicum of honesty on the entire proceeding. But
Speaker 1: from we believe and just kind of the last couple
Speaker 1: of days, they're one of Brian's first phone calls had
Speaker 1: to have been to kill her. Hey man, something's happened
Speaker 1: over here. Stay in your house, don't come outside, don't
Speaker 1: get involved, And he probably listened to yeah and probably
Speaker 1: scrub your cam footage. Yeah, there's a bunch of people
Speaker 1: in the chat that believes that it was Brian that
Speaker 1: did that.
Speaker 9: How did Brian Albert not have cam himself.
Speaker 3: Actually on the Fugitive Task Force?
Speaker 12: And that's the biggest thing is why didn't they break
Speaker 12: those doors down and go right in. Brian Albott was
Speaker 12: on the Fugitive Task Force. You have a dead corp
Speaker 12: on your front lawn. They had no clue if there
Speaker 12: was a hit on Brian. For all the years that
Speaker 12: he put people away on the Fugitive Task Force, I'm
Speaker 12: sure we had multiple threats.
Speaker 6: Wasn't the BS in the trial he had a new
Speaker 6: nest camera that he hadn't installed yet or something. Don't
Speaker 6: we have photographs that showed it might have been some
Speaker 6: sort of ring cam on thirty four fair View.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you had to have one.
Speaker 11: Maybe they had and they took them down the day before.
Speaker 9: Maybe Aaron Hernandez trying to destroy his home surveillance system
Speaker 9: and smacked the BBI recorder.
Speaker 3: And everybody in here. Scott's worked in larm enforcement. I
Speaker 3: have Peter Murphy has.
Speaker 12: All of us have worked in larm enforcements, and if
Speaker 12: a brother is in trouble, a brother is going down.
Speaker 12: Every single means of everything it search, warrants don't even
Speaker 12: matter at that point.
Speaker 3: You're there. You're gonna take care of your brother if
Speaker 3: he's down.
Speaker 12: So why they never went into that house to make
Speaker 12: sure there was an assassination of a whole family?
Speaker 3: I don't that right there? Made me right up front. No,
Speaker 3: something was not right.
Speaker 9: With the whole thing Jen had that Jen went in.
Speaker 3: Of course she went in Satan spawned.
Speaker 1: I've said this on multiple shows, so I'll say it
Speaker 1: for the benefit of the original gangsters. But the investigation
Speaker 1: began when the first canton and police officers stepped on
Speaker 1: the lawn or the snow at thirty four Fairview, and
Speaker 1: the moment that officer decided not to knock on the door,
Speaker 1: the investigation had concluded exactly.
Speaker 6: I say, that's the fix was in before they even
Speaker 6: got to the house, and that's why they didn't knock
Speaker 6: on the door.
Speaker 1: Be it could be that that those phone calls took place.
Speaker 1: We don't know what Higgins told them. It could be
Speaker 1: those I mean, this is what someone's saying, lank here
Speaker 1: Satan spawn. She loved that, Dina. That's agreement.
Speaker 3: Somebody said Stan spawned for a long time.
Speaker 1: She wears it, as Rod Stewart would say, she wears it.
Speaker 2: Well, she wears it.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 1: John's brothers none showed up. Uh yeah, Well, you know.
Speaker 1: The whole thing is Mark is a lot. I guess
Speaker 1: people listen and they're told to keep quiet and all that.
Speaker 1: Let's get the next person up, which I believe is
Speaker 1: that Peter is next up? Is it Peter Murphy? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: Peter Murphy to me?
Speaker 5: All right, So I there's so much obviously we all
Speaker 5: know this so much to this case. There's so many
Speaker 5: places you could begin, you could jump been in the middle.
Speaker 5: It's still spend three days talking about it. But I
Speaker 5: think if if you play back what we've all touched
Speaker 5: on today, it sounds like the famous expression that's become
Speaker 5: very novel to me is that a fish rots from
Speaker 5: the head down. And if you look at police departments
Speaker 5: stuff that's going on in the Commonwealth Beacon Hill, cpd
Speaker 5: DA's office down on Sharmant Road, it starts at the
Speaker 5: top and if the top is rotting, the rest of
Speaker 5: the fish is going to smell. And my question, I
Speaker 5: think that I wanted to put out a hypothetical was
Speaker 5: going to be simply when did Morrissey's phones become wiyettapped
Speaker 5: by the FEDS as part of the ongoing investigation, perhaps
Speaker 5: after Senator Brian Joyce's demise which you can't and people
Speaker 5: are away, which possibly the Birchmore. I have a funny
Speaker 5: feeling and I guess I'm throwing it out there for
Speaker 5: the over under Betters that Morrissey's office was under scrutiny
Speaker 5: and wire taps and surveillance, probably maybe even before the
Speaker 5: Birchmore case.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 5: And the next question is, hypothetically, if you want to
Speaker 5: paddle the pickleball back and forth, is how far up
Speaker 5: this hierarchy of governmental ladder is this going to reach?
Speaker 5: This could have some I mean the FEDS, I'm sure
Speaker 5: many times have probably looked at everything in front of them.
Speaker 5: They've got one hundred and whatever sixty agents or something
Speaker 5: out of the Boston office. They probably looked at it
Speaker 5: and said, well, you know what, you know what, DJ,
Speaker 5: we're pretty close to sension. The not as Alan Jackson said,
Speaker 5: we got to fish in the line. We just got
Speaker 5: to get him in the boat. They probably looked at
Speaker 5: that dozens, if not hundreds of times, instaid we're close,
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, somebody comes forward, somebody chirps,
Speaker 5: somebody sings, and they got to go investigate that for
Speaker 5: four months. It's just it's a never ending and I
Speaker 5: and and I know people are getting frustrated and angry
Speaker 5: at the Feds. I did have some interactions with them,
Speaker 5: and I have to believe in the system, and I
Speaker 5: have to believe that all of this money, the half
Speaker 5: a million dollars they spent with Akka, they didn't do
Speaker 5: that for nothing.
Speaker 9: They're coming, I hope, So, I hope. I'm very I
Speaker 9: think Peter that.
Speaker 6: Josh Levy's federal dragnet is it's so huge, it's slowing
Speaker 6: down a ship.
Speaker 9: And it's it. And you have all the political.
Speaker 6: Politics involved, right, And I'm more And you said earlier,
Speaker 6: just a minute ago, how high does this go up?
Speaker 6: And I'm one of the people here in the Free
Speaker 6: carent Re movement that thinks it goes all the way.
Speaker 6: So Governor more heally, Yeah, So it is Josh Levy
Speaker 6: gonna round up all of them.
Speaker 9: I don't know where he stops and where he just
Speaker 9: you know what he does here. I think he's in
Speaker 9: a pickle. I really do.
Speaker 5: Well. He is probably in a pickle. And I'm sure
Speaker 5: he's got data overload. But I think the recent case
Speaker 5: that he brought for seven thousand dollars that we just
Speaker 5: saw with the city councilwoman, that certainly shows that he's
Speaker 5: got both odds in the water. For seven thousand dollars,
Speaker 5: you can imagine what he's probably got in front of
Speaker 5: him going all the way up to Beacon Hill and
Speaker 5: maybe all the way to sixteen hundred Pennsylvania. Abb.
Speaker 12: I think it goes way way up and they're just
Speaker 12: trying to figure out who they're gonna throw to the wolves,
Speaker 12: and they're all scratching at each other, and they all
Speaker 12: got shit on each other, and they're throwing shit at
Speaker 12: each other back and forth, so no one's ratting each
Speaker 12: other out because it's going higher and higher. I'm honestly,
Speaker 12: I'm I think something should have happened by now. I
Speaker 12: know everyone's like, wait for the Feds, wait for Levy,
Speaker 12: but if Levy ends up leaving when Trump goes into office,
Speaker 12: we're screwed here in Massachusetts, We're gonna be screwed.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily. So not necessarily because anybody, you know, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be turnover, there's gonna be a lot of interface.
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna have to go over all of
Speaker 1: his cases with his successor. So I wouldn't necessarily bury that.
Speaker 1: But and we do have a question for Peter and
Speaker 1: Marie DeAndrea. First of all, really cool name, Paisan, what's up?
Speaker 1: We will get your your name, your question there, it's stad.
Speaker 1: I'm also starring some of the other amazing questions that
Speaker 1: you guys have. But I want to get to Dennis
Speaker 1: and Brenda and get their takes on Peter's topic. Please,
Speaker 1: and if you need to restate Peter for them, restated
Speaker 1: succinctly please.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I Gutnison BRender. I guess just to reiterate, it
Speaker 5: was simply and it's been talked about, I know in
Speaker 5: our group with boots on the ground. Uh when did
Speaker 5: this investigation commence with the FEDS? Who and why were
Speaker 5: they looking at these people? When did it happen? And Uh,
Speaker 5: where's it going to end?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 15: I agree you, I think I think it goes all
Speaker 15: over Taskbarba here case. She was, she was in charge
Speaker 15: of the Birchmore case and a couple of the other
Speaker 15: cases when she was in office.
Speaker 8: Member.
Speaker 5: Yes, she was general Attorney General right was general.
Speaker 15: And she hasn't said a damn word about any these cases,
Speaker 15: made any statements at Allso I think she's covered.
Speaker 5: And ask myself, well, yeah, to kind of sidetrack a little.
Speaker 5: Just look at the Enriki case. How many days has
Speaker 5: it been Scott uh Tom Cpu how many days?
Speaker 9: One hundred days?
Speaker 5: A hundred goddamn days. And a police officer killed in
Speaker 5: his own academy, dead in his own academy. Let's not
Speaker 5: say killed, Come on, really.
Speaker 8: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Beatrice, and I've had I don't know what to think
Speaker 1: of that one. Beatrice and I have had extensive conversations.
Speaker 1: Obviously she's talked to the family. We believe, or I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak for Beatrice on this aspect of it.
Speaker 1: I believe that the family did not get good advice
Speaker 1: coming right out of the gate. They didn't get the
Speaker 1: right attorney, they didn't get a forensic examination independent of
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth or the State, which then they could have
Speaker 1: taken that piece of paper and stood up in front
Speaker 1: of the TV camera said we have a report right
Speaker 1: here that says this, we have not heard from the
Speaker 1: MSP in ninety days and had all four news stations there.
Speaker 1: They don't have that now, So now their job is
Speaker 1: going to be a lot more difficult. They're going to
Speaker 1: have to do a court order potentially to exuom Enrique,
Speaker 1: or they're going to just have to have an independent
Speaker 1: group a review the video and audio and so forth,
Speaker 1: and obviously the written report of what happened there. So
Speaker 1: they're they're kind of on the back foot right now.
Speaker 1: But those injuries we had for the for the audience
Speaker 1: here who wasn't in on that show. We had retired
Speaker 1: law enforcement officer named Chris lutreal On. Chris was not
Speaker 1: only an MMA fighter, he was the first fighter at
Speaker 1: Jackson's MMA, very famous academy in Albuquerque. He was a
Speaker 1: coach for MMA for twenty five years and he is
Speaker 1: the most He has the best bona fides to speak
Speaker 1: about these injuries and said they're not consistent with MMA,
Speaker 1: never mind police defensive tactics training. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 1: he also taught police defensive tactics training and he was
Speaker 1: at one point before he retired from Albuquerque PD, he
Speaker 1: was a new Mexico State trooper, so and he these
Speaker 1: injuries are not consistent with training, so they lied. I
Speaker 1: don't believe any story that he just took on the biggest,
Speaker 1: toughest guy, h and that was at the thing and
Speaker 1: that guy punched him in the face and broke his neck. Sorry,
Speaker 1: and those injuries I know from jiu jitsu myself. You
Speaker 1: have the injuries and the ankle injury.
Speaker 6: You have the status apologists saying these investigations can take
Speaker 6: at least a year or more.
Speaker 1: Sure you have you have.
Speaker 6: People that are more tepid on this, like Turtle Boy.
Speaker 6: So there's not everybody on board with this. But where
Speaker 6: is the autopsy and where is the communication with the family?
Speaker 9: Is the state afraid the family is going to sue
Speaker 9: the stage? You know what I mean? There's a lot
Speaker 9: of stuff going on here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just I'm hoping that Beatrice is going to
Speaker 1: be able to make contact again because she's had difficulty.
Speaker 1: She did get one communication with the mom recently, but
Speaker 1: not the replies to where she could get into the
Speaker 1: kind of dialogue that she wants to get into. So
Speaker 1: let me go to Kristen, That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: Where where kristin at with this report? What do you
Speaker 1: think about Enrique? What? What do you have to say? Man?
Speaker 11: I haven't looked too much into it, but just from
Speaker 11: the little that I've heard, something seems fishy. I I
Speaker 11: don't I don't know what, but something seems fishy.
Speaker 1: I like what less has to say right here, that's
Speaker 1: a fact. That's a fact, right there, baby, Thanks beautiful
Speaker 1: faces up in here. All right, let's go to the next.
Speaker 3: Thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, asolutely one of the one.
Speaker 9: Of the one of the the words.
Speaker 19: Critics of all this are saying, A, we haven't we
Speaker 19: haven't seen the actual autopsy results, and B maybe the
Speaker 19: family is exaggerating is injuries.
Speaker 1: I think we saw exaggerating what interviews injuries the family? Yes,
Speaker 1: but there now, Beatrice.
Speaker 9: In my opinion, I'm saying that's what critics are saying.
Speaker 1: What what our can I can I hold on one second?
Speaker 1: We have someone on the panel that has seen the
Speaker 1: photos from the family. Go ahead, Yeah, yeah, no, I.
Speaker 12: Mean, I'm just saying what the critics are saying.
Speaker 9: That's all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know I saw the photos and no, it's
Speaker 4: it's real as real guts there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those I talked with, I just want to say
Speaker 1: real quick, I'm sorry interrupted. I spoke with that guy,
Speaker 1: Javier Velasquez, the guy who had fought MMA. He was
Speaker 1: one of the BPD colleagues of John and Brian, and
Speaker 1: he was on with Sean McDonough and I was on
Speaker 1: the phone with him. Beatrice also was on that call,
Speaker 1: and those I can kind of point to the and
Speaker 1: he agreed the exact injuries that would have caused the
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu leg lock injuries. That would have popped his
Speaker 1: knee in a way that that knee was popped, which
Speaker 1: is called a heel hook and outside he'll hook, and
Speaker 1: that also could have fractured the ankle, especially from someone
Speaker 1: who's hyped up on adrenaline and is really turning on it.
Speaker 1: It's something that I could demo on camera and all that.
Speaker 1: But in any case, I've got a lot of time
Speaker 1: in jiu jitsu and I know that maneuver, and that's
Speaker 1: I cannot that injury cannot have happened in boxing. That
Speaker 1: is a jiu jitsu leg lock injury.
Speaker 6: And then you're expert was testifying or saying it all
Speaker 6: couldn't be explained.
Speaker 1: As not being consistent with what the MSP said. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's the with the boxing training and Dina. I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: please go ahead.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 12: Well, what I what I don't understand is in the
Speaker 12: the time that we're in right now, we see Alan Jackson,
Speaker 12: you know, Karen Reid, we see David Gyarnetti.
Speaker 3: They're speaking out about what's going on.
Speaker 12: I don't understand why Enrique Delgado Garcia's family's lawyer is
Speaker 12: not up at a podium constantly streaming from the roof
Speaker 12: rooftrop tops. We want answers, we want answers. I don't
Speaker 12: know what kind of lawyer that is right now.
Speaker 3: Because right because it's the time now.
Speaker 5: To do this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I question. I'd like to know who the
Speaker 3: lawyer is. Why are they not doing this?
Speaker 1: Beatrice heard me say every single thing you just said.
Speaker 1: But it's a touchy situation with the family.
Speaker 12: It's ARKCC no, it is, But they gotta if they
Speaker 12: want answers, which I've had a conversation with them. We
Speaker 12: were at Morrissey's office when they were there. Beatrice was there,
Speaker 12: we were with Brian LTL. And we were all talking
Speaker 12: to the whole family there. I mean, the hot break
Speaker 12: in them is just it makes you cry.
Speaker 3: It's it's devastating.
Speaker 12: And all we can promise them, and which I did,
Speaker 12: is we will not not say his name.
Speaker 3: We will constantly put his name.
Speaker 12: Out there, and which I always do every time I'm
Speaker 12: out at something.
Speaker 3: But I don't understand.
Speaker 12: Why that family is not screaming at that lawyer. Get
Speaker 12: on the microphone right now. We want answers, whether we
Speaker 12: like the answers we get or we don't because we
Speaker 12: don't because we have none.
Speaker 3: But they should be screwed. This is the time for
Speaker 3: people to be standing up.
Speaker 12: And fighting for the injustices across the board.
Speaker 3: With everything.
Speaker 6: Well, one possible thing is if the attorney's that bad
Speaker 6: and he's fishing for a settlement from the state, he's
Speaker 6: telling the family to keep quiet, which means they have
Speaker 6: the worst attorney.
Speaker 3: Possible exactly, it goot them that attorney. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I've been saying that over and over over, and that's
Speaker 1: what Angel Castillo is saying right here is the fan. Yes,
Speaker 1: in fact, I know Beatrice knows they are telling the
Speaker 1: family sticks out, so we and Dylan is saying the
Speaker 1: same thing here, Hi, Dylan, Yeah, so we we we
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm gonna talk to Bia this week
Speaker 1: and maybe she'll try again to make contact with U.
Speaker 1: Is it Julio that is on Twitter with us?
Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, Julio's a stepfather, right stepfather?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we've we've got to we've got to try
Speaker 1: to we've got to try to make contact to help.
Speaker 1: And if they tell us to shut the hell up,
Speaker 1: then I'll gladly shut the hell up. And I'll bow
Speaker 1: to this family because they're the one that's suffering.
Speaker 12: They're scared, and they have every right to be scared,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean, because look at they've probably
Speaker 12: watched on the news to all of whatever the whole
Speaker 12: Karen Reid movement goes through, with the hell that everybody
Speaker 12: look at.
Speaker 3: The people in can'ton what they go through.
Speaker 12: The people that live in can'ton go through holy hell
Speaker 12: every single day. And this Nrique's family is probably watching
Speaker 12: this and worried about threats and everything else. You can't
Speaker 12: blame them for being scared. But you know, this lawyer
Speaker 12: has me I don't even know who the lawyer is.
Speaker 12: It's questionable when now is the time to be screaming
Speaker 12: from the rooftops.
Speaker 10: So we know we have answers to those questions that
Speaker 10: you just had. We have some of the answers. I
Speaker 10: can't say specifically what answers to what questions? Uh huh,
Speaker 10: we do have hot actual answers.
Speaker 1: Good, I'll ask we could talk offline.
Speaker 2: Then anybody out there, right, anybody? Would you keep a
Speaker 2: secret for thirty million dollars?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. It's hard to say. I'm financially stable.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not.
Speaker 10: The attorney's job not morals, but his job is to
Speaker 10: do what he is best for his client. So if
Speaker 10: he can get a settlement for thirty million, no, how,
Speaker 10: no foul, Like, here's just the I'm gonna give you
Speaker 10: a letter, You're gonna.
Speaker 2: Give me a check for thirty million. It's the easiest
Speaker 2: case in the world for the lawyer. What you want it?
Speaker 10: Right, it's a no brainer. He's gonna do good for
Speaker 10: his client. But he Enrique gets lost in that.
Speaker 1: But the client, I mean, the client is not saying
Speaker 1: that to Beatrice, so they're telling it.
Speaker 10: There's there's a language barrier. That's a problem. There's I
Speaker 10: how do I put it?
Speaker 2: There is a.
Speaker 10: I want to say cultural barrier where we see things
Speaker 10: a little different than people in London, or people in
Speaker 10: Ireland or people in Australia. We just see things different
Speaker 10: from from because we have vested, we have we have
Speaker 10: Kieran Reid on our mind, we have Sandra on our mind,
Speaker 10: We've Justin on our mind, and now we have Enrique.
Speaker 10: So to us, it's not just the tragic death. It's
Speaker 10: another another, and another and another tragic death.
Speaker 1: So this is apparently another Latino or Latina.
Speaker 10: Uh, Brian is on it and and I can tell
Speaker 10: you that.
Speaker 2: But what I know, I know, Brian knows, Bryan knows
Speaker 2: what I know.
Speaker 10: And with that, I think they get things are gonna
Speaker 10: happen in a billboard.
Speaker 9: How's that?
Speaker 1: And well, I love, I love, I love to hear that.
Speaker 1: But I'd like to let Beatrice weigh in because she
Speaker 1: has the most experience here on.
Speaker 4: The Yes, all right, let me see if I can
Speaker 4: keep it concise. I mean, I think the other thing too.
Speaker 4: When I was talking to his aunt and then her kids,
Speaker 4: all the cousins, they speak perfectly good English. I just
Speaker 4: don't think they know how to advocate.
Speaker 5: And they don't know.
Speaker 4: And you're also in a sense afraid of any retaliation,
Speaker 4: police retaliation, and that's what's keeping them quiet. The mom
Speaker 4: at the standout sat in her car.
Speaker 3: Because she didn't want to come out to the corner, right,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 9: What I mean.
Speaker 4: So I think those fears, whether they're real or not,
Speaker 4: is what's in them getting the advice of the attorney
Speaker 4: is what's keeping them quiet. But in regards to the
Speaker 4: language barrier, I know that's the big assumption. And when
Speaker 4: I was talking to the cousin, I'm like, but the
Speaker 4: language barrier, He goes, we're talking right here, I speak
Speaker 4: good English, like we're They do have a lot of
Speaker 4: cousins that can speak perfectly good English, And I just said, please,
Speaker 4: like come out and speak up. But instead the aunt
Speaker 4: is the one doing the speaking, and I was doing
Speaker 4: the translating for you know what at the latest the
Speaker 4: last standout. So it's she's just like, they're not going
Speaker 4: to silence me, and that's why she was more open
Speaker 4: to speaking about him, and you know, trying to get answers.
Speaker 10: We'll get the answers that they will get the answers
Speaker 10: that you guys are asking, but more so the family
Speaker 10: will get the answers.
Speaker 2: So it's just time get.
Speaker 1: Can you speak in generalities as to an outcome or
Speaker 1: are you talking about you said the family will get answers.
Speaker 1: When you say they'll get answers, answers about what the
Speaker 1: nature of what happened or what what are they getting answers.
Speaker 10: They're going to get answers to the whole entire picture.
Speaker 10: You gotta realize, forty cadets got kicked out. Now, when
Speaker 10: I was in the academy, there were eighty cadets. Two
Speaker 10: classes in the same academy. One was for the local
Speaker 10: cop all the towns Deadlos for the city cops, Brockton,
Speaker 10: Fall River, New Bedford, because things are different in New
Speaker 10: Bedford than they are in Berkeley, you know, So they
Speaker 10: broke the classes up that way. If he was in
Speaker 10: one of the classes, okay, and he was having a
Speaker 10: problem with one of the class with people in his class,
Speaker 10: and they took care of it. By the way, there's
Speaker 10: no boxing ring at the academy, so the whole boxing
Speaker 10: thing is a lie. There's no ring, so throw that out.
Speaker 10: It doesn't exist, right, There was no boxing. So wherever
Speaker 10: they found him, we again, we don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll tell us where in what happened.
Speaker 1: Laurna's got a good point. I'm going to get to you.
Speaker 1: Lorna Valhalla law She is the official attorney of calling
Speaker 1: all beings. By the way, she had to throw that
Speaker 1: plug in there. Retired Massachusetts attorney. She says, if the
Speaker 1: family is pessimistic about getting justice or you know what,
Speaker 1: I should use the John F. Kennedy accent for this.
Speaker 1: If the family is pessimistic about getting justice for Enrique,
Speaker 1: I can see how they might focus on the lawsuit.
Speaker 10: That was pretty good, big thirty million dollars. Think about that.
Speaker 10: You keep a secret for thirty million?
Speaker 1: Well secret Squirrel suggested there could be a green card issue,
Speaker 1: so that would make the family shut up too, because
Speaker 1: but I don't know, Okay, So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a lot of variables here, and not that many
Speaker 1: constants other than the MSP had somebody die in their
Speaker 1: Karen custody stop.
Speaker 2: Enrique worked for Worcester County.
Speaker 10: County just had their offices doing prostitutes on the clock,
Speaker 10: and with state money, it was okay.
Speaker 2: It's okay to do that.
Speaker 6: In worstime, the green count thing doesn't make sensegue word
Speaker 6: for the County DA, the State Police.
Speaker 1: Acaunt he was in here though. The family.
Speaker 10: They will absolutely use that even if there if there's
Speaker 10: even a question about immigration, even a hint, they will
Speaker 10: drop the hammer on that you're going home, y'all going home,
Speaker 10: and y'all going home.
Speaker 6: Up hotels filled up near me with illegals, So don't
Speaker 6: get me going.
Speaker 2: He's gonna tell them, just we're on it. You wait
Speaker 2: some more.
Speaker 10: For three to five years, and at the end of
Speaker 10: the day, everyone's gonna get get paid and that's all.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's it, that's his job.
Speaker 1: That could be. That's a really good point. That could be.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. And BA and I hadn't even
Speaker 1: considered that. So this is why we have on geniuses
Speaker 1: like you guys. Let's go with Dennis and Brenda's topic,
Speaker 1: which will be answered by Kristen Fist.
Speaker 14: So, you know, normally, when somebody's watching you were you're
Speaker 14: on your best behavior, and the whole world is watching
Speaker 14: the camp police and they are getting more and more
Speaker 14: brazen that they're harassment and their behavior and I just
Speaker 14: don't understand why that doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 9: And I've just people thought about.
Speaker 1: That, this is a question. This is so we say
Speaker 1: it could be topic hypothesis or question. This is a question,
Speaker 1: why do you think that they're just more more brazen
Speaker 1: and and uh even though knowing what they've helped cover
Speaker 1: it up here and how they investigated Richie who was
Speaker 1: in the chat earlier, we didn't have a chance to
Speaker 1: say hi to him, uh and try to put him
Speaker 1: through the rinker and thank god only littering were they
Speaker 1: able to get him for not witness intimidation. What say
Speaker 1: you Christen about the brazenness of Kent and p d ma'am,
Speaker 1: I don't know, thank you, Jen, I.
Speaker 11: Mean along with Brenda and Dennis and thankfully I don't
Speaker 11: have much interaction with the police. But I think ever
Speaker 11: since the Karen Read Tree Karen Read case, I see
Speaker 11: that some of the Canton police officers have like a
Speaker 11: massive ego yep, like I'm I'm better than you and
Speaker 11: but yeah, I mean, I I agree with Brenda, like
Speaker 11: why are they not on their best behavior?
Speaker 14: I mean, doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 11: I feel like, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 9: Not at all, Like.
Speaker 8: It's just not an.
Speaker 15: They follow you, it's it's it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, Hm, I'm sorry.
Speaker 11: Following a high profile case, and you know some of
Speaker 11: the supporters are being attacked, and you know they call
Speaker 11: for help and it's like, oh whatever, No, no, that's
Speaker 11: not okay.
Speaker 9: Like the chats right that they have no percussions. Who
Speaker 9: do they answer to? They're not afraid of anything.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you.
Speaker 15: What did Why did you do it? Damn thing told them?
Speaker 15: We get it all on videotape. And now it's as
Speaker 15: sault and battery. Why he has to get a lawyer
Speaker 15: and go to the sultan gather on the asshole. He
Speaker 15: never touched them, But because who does the.
Speaker 9: Chief answer to D. D. A. Morrissey State Troopers? And
Speaker 9: who does D. A. Morrissey answer to Attorney General Campbell?
Speaker 6: And who does the tourney General Campbell answer to Governor
Speaker 6: marily We told.
Speaker 15: You know, they say, well you gotta you gotta least
Speaker 15: that with with your hometown police. Get a police be
Speaker 15: I goes, okay, well, am I going to call it
Speaker 15: the can't police to pilate hope were going to.
Speaker 8: Call it the state police.
Speaker 15: I just want here, you can't we can't call anybody?
Speaker 1: Know this is this is what makes it so difficult,
Speaker 1: Oh Christina. They can gift you a membership. Sherry can
Speaker 1: can take care of that. She'll she'll tell you how
Speaker 1: to square that away.
Speaker 8: We need receivership and we need somebody to find out
Speaker 8: how we can do it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and it's on. That's what's so scary for
Speaker 1: you guys, is because you don't have somebody to call.
Speaker 1: You don't know what would happen if you call the
Speaker 1: police to come to your your residence, your domicile. And
Speaker 1: that's what makes this so difficult and terrifying. And this
Speaker 1: is why, you know, I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: I need to you know, we need to start emailing
Speaker 1: Joshua Levy. I mean, and I mean that like Christina.
Speaker 1: I know you're out there and you're very active. You
Speaker 1: know you're in Indiana, and we have friends in Florida,
Speaker 1: we have friends in the Carolinas. We all need to
Speaker 1: be emailing perhaps Joshua Levy, because they can't. They can't
Speaker 1: just let this go if they have something, you can't
Speaker 1: take the five years because five years, by five years
Speaker 1: from now, what what's gonna happen When some of these
Speaker 1: younger monsters have applied and they're at CPD and Kevin
Speaker 1: and and Kevin Albert is the chief. What are you
Speaker 1: gonna do that?
Speaker 8: So let's starts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can just start communicating with Joshua Levy. The
Speaker 1: A U s A, I'm sorry, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 9: I tend to interrupt and repeat myself. That's okay.
Speaker 6: So you have saying called josh Levy and that's investigate,
Speaker 6: can't and PD.
Speaker 9: They just investigated Wister PD. They came out with this long.
Speaker 6: Ridiculous press conference from Attorney Joshua Levey's office saying everything
Speaker 6: that's wrong with Wister PD. And it had no teeth,
Speaker 6: no names were put in the reports, and no way,
Speaker 6: no action was taken. It was a big nothing burger.
Speaker 1: It's all we have, Scott. We can't invent okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't invent a new you know process here, or
Speaker 1: a new you know, some sort of arm of the
Speaker 1: federal government. Just to why we have to use what's
Speaker 1: here and right now he's here. So and obviously he's
Speaker 1: had his hands in this case, and obviously he's had
Speaker 1: his hand in the Birchmore case, and then we didn't
Speaker 1: even know that he had his hands in the Wister case.
Speaker 1: So we need to we need to we need to
Speaker 1: do something. We need to start let it, letting it
Speaker 1: be known that it you know, you guys, I feel
Speaker 1: like we need to share this worries that you guys
Speaker 1: have about what's happening to people in town. We just
Speaker 1: had this person right here. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a man or a woman. They live in Canton and
Speaker 1: they have been commenting as we're going here about the
Speaker 1: difficulty of living there. So I think we need to
Speaker 1: start communicating. This is just extemporaneous, just you know, stream
Speaker 1: of consciousness here. Not something I thought about before this episode,
Speaker 1: but feel free to weigh in.
Speaker 12: The police are more brazen, especially in Canton, because there
Speaker 12: really is no repercussions for anything that they do, and
Speaker 12: it's generational and it's been happening forever in a day
Speaker 12: and then you even step outside of Canton and on
Speaker 12: the police are just gonna go along with some of
Speaker 12: these bad cops because there's repercussions if they don't.
Speaker 3: This is a huge network that's it's.
Speaker 12: Gonna take forever to bring them down because it's been
Speaker 12: going on for so long. The a brazen, They don't care,
Speaker 12: They really don't care about the badge has no meaning
Speaker 12: to some of these people. It's just a power thing
Speaker 12: for them to make a lot of money in overtime
Speaker 12: to do whatever they want to do and hand out
Speaker 12: their their will at.
Speaker 3: What however they want.
Speaker 12: Look at you know, giving people tickets, giving them charges
Speaker 12: for stuff that's petty and nothing, or they didn't even
Speaker 12: do anything, and you go to the court system.
Speaker 3: It's it's so corrupt, it's it's sickening, you know. And
Speaker 3: they never thought.
Speaker 12: Everybody was going to fight back at like everybody has
Speaker 12: that are on the ground, and so they're still intimidating
Speaker 12: people because they think we're gonna go away.
Speaker 3: We're never going away.
Speaker 12: We're in this fight to see them find everybody get justice,
Speaker 12: the cops justice for their wrongdoings, and then justice for
Speaker 12: the people that died at the hands of them.
Speaker 15: And the people in the sting a kid. And you
Speaker 15: have to start standing up against them. I know that
Speaker 15: you got durna police officer, you spect the badge, but
Speaker 15: you can't let him push you around and give you
Speaker 15: ship like they did the other day to Peter.
Speaker 8: You gotta let him know we're not gonna take this
Speaker 8: ship anymore.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 15: And the only reason why this is even coming around
Speaker 15: is because of these people like you guys that know
Speaker 15: what's going on in kid and you guys are helping us,
Speaker 15: you know, get a lot further than we would because
Speaker 15: if it's up to the Canton people, this is going
Speaker 15: nowhere because they're all afraid.
Speaker 8: To come out and stand anything. It's it.
Speaker 15: And the men are all wearing skirts from the town,
Speaker 15: which makes me sick to my stomach. You know, they
Speaker 15: got they got a man up sometime and just stopped coming.
Speaker 8: But we had that we can't wait.
Speaker 15: He's very vigil that twenty nights stand out at the town.
Speaker 15: People in can'ton, don't get out for that night when
Speaker 15: we're all going to be on the police department's front line,
Speaker 15: then shame on them.
Speaker 12: Also is when we went to that town meeting that time, Dennis,
Speaker 12: when bar what's his name, Bob on McCarthy him alone.
Speaker 3: The treatment.
Speaker 12: He's in a position he should be showing respect to
Speaker 12: the people that are go to these town meetings that
Speaker 12: they have a right to go and express how they feel.
Speaker 3: And he treats them like jurk the audacity of him.
Speaker 12: And so it's not just the police department, it's the
Speaker 12: people that sit on these boards. Chris Albert should have
Speaker 12: been taken off that board a long time ago. How
Speaker 12: is that man still sitting on a board.
Speaker 9: It's a big deal. He's just a felon, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean so it's not the people that
Speaker 3: can't not only have.
Speaker 12: The police to worry about, it's every board that they
Speaker 12: have to worry about.
Speaker 3: They have to worry every time they get in their.
Speaker 12: Car and drive down the road. They have it ten
Speaker 12: times worse than all of us. And I can say
Speaker 12: I've been followed by the Massachusetts State Police multiple times.
Speaker 12: I've had them drive up speeding, taking my picture in
Speaker 12: my cat. And I don't even live in Canton. So
Speaker 12: imagine the people that live in Canton. You have to
Speaker 12: sleep with one eye open.
Speaker 9: It's well, you're cute, they're chasing you down.
Speaker 11: I used to.
Speaker 1: I used to say, when I was active, go ahead,
Speaker 1: somebody was just talking good.
Speaker 9: Well, I was.
Speaker 6: Gonna say back to saying if we get outside of.
Speaker 9: Canton, coming in to help Canton.
Speaker 6: I go back to when we had the special town
Speaker 6: meeting to vote for the police audit. I remember standing
Speaker 6: out there Paul christophoroh other people that weren't from Canton,
Speaker 6: and I saw so many divide in the town was unbelievable.
Speaker 6: There's people people tackling Tommy in the in the parking lot,
Speaker 6: There's people.
Speaker 9: Giving me the finger out there, and I'm holding a sign.
Speaker 9: You know, can'ton police audi vote. Yeah.
Speaker 6: When you're boots on the ground in Canton, and I'm
Speaker 6: not a mile an hour.
Speaker 9: Away from Canton, I can see what's going on in
Speaker 9: that town.
Speaker 6: And that's why I show up to stuff like that
Speaker 6: in Canton, like the police audit vote, to support these
Speaker 6: people with a sign out.
Speaker 15: There, and a lot of these people are going to
Speaker 15: remember that you're out there holding the signs supporting them,
Speaker 15: and you're doing it because it's not just corruption in Canton.
Speaker 15: This corruption in Wooster, this corruption in Brockton. We're all
Speaker 15: in this corruption period you live, you know.
Speaker 9: Right, Well, that goes way back.
Speaker 6: I remember the first d Morrissey protests, Dennis and I
Speaker 6: was I was trying to give people that were there
Speaker 6: a reason why I'm there. But the reason I'm there
Speaker 6: is a bigger picture than just Canton. I started talking
Speaker 6: about the corruption in the DA's office and how the
Speaker 6: state police detective groups is set up, and how somebody
Speaker 6: like Morrissey can create this feefdom, this power, and that's
Speaker 6: the big picture I saw from my.
Speaker 9: You know, long view looking into the whole Canton situation.
Speaker 6: And that's one of the things that fired me up
Speaker 6: to get into this, is to help.
Speaker 9: People see the big picture.
Speaker 17: And I think we're I'm so happy where we are
Speaker 17: now today. When I first started joining Free Karen Reid,
Speaker 17: because a lot more people are on not to say
Speaker 17: my page, but they see what I was talking about then,
Speaker 17: and they didn't understand what I was talking about then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kristin wanted to get in there and say something,
Speaker 1: so please go ahead, man.
Speaker 11: So last week I was out in my front Yeah,
Speaker 11: I bringing my trash barrels out back, and who drives
Speaker 11: by my house but Chris Albert and he like slouches down,
Speaker 11: like don't look at me, and like he was afraid
Speaker 11: of me or something. I don't know, and it was
Speaker 11: I just had to laugh. But I also feel like
Speaker 11: I am one of the rare that I don't bet
Speaker 11: attacked like everybody else does in town. Like in the
Speaker 11: very beginning of Aaron Reid, like I was at all
Speaker 11: her court hearings, all the selectmen meetings, everything, and I
Speaker 11: kind of had a big mouth, and I got myself
Speaker 11: into a lot of trouble with my big mouth. I've
Speaker 11: been a little quiet now. But the most recent thing
Speaker 11: that I did that people didn't like was my Halloween
Speaker 11: decorations with the names that I had on the gravestones
Speaker 11: that I made.
Speaker 2: I thought it was funny.
Speaker 11: But even with that, like, they don't come after me
Speaker 11: like they come after everybody else. I mean, I I
Speaker 11: see the Alberts just about every day. Colin will give
Speaker 11: me the Canton salute. That's about it. Nobody says a
Speaker 11: word to me. Nobody really does anything to my property.
Speaker 11: Granted I have eight cameras everywhere, so it's like Fort
Speaker 11: Knox hair, but I don't know. I mean, they leave
Speaker 11: me alone. It's the weirdest.
Speaker 1: Than That's that that that's awesome. It just especially given
Speaker 1: the thing with the bravestones. I also wanted to highlight
Speaker 1: somebody here. There's been a lot of good comments here.
Speaker 1: I think it's uh so Angel is out in Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 1: I'm down in Colorado Springs. So when we have our
Speaker 1: free Karen Reid get together. If you connect with me
Speaker 1: on Twitter or whatever, I will make sure we get
Speaker 1: get you in on that as well. Angel, So there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people with you. And I used
Speaker 1: to say when I served, it's like I gotta you know,
Speaker 1: I got to die sometimes, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: die for something stupid. So as long as gonna happen,
Speaker 1: it might as well be for a good cause, you know.
Speaker 1: So that that's what I used to say when when
Speaker 1: I deploy and stuff like that. I just don't want
Speaker 1: to die because someone was an idiot in the airplane
Speaker 1: and did something stupid and we because they were dumb.
Speaker 1: But you know, if something happens and we just you know,
Speaker 1: it's not our lucky day and we get shot down
Speaker 1: or whatever, I'd be like, Okay, you know that's what
Speaker 1: you sign up for, and the same thing here you
Speaker 1: guys are though in the real line of danger. Go ahead.
Speaker 12: I have to sign off soon because I have worked
Speaker 12: at three o'clock in the morning, But I just want
Speaker 12: to say to everybody that's sitting on this panel, we
Speaker 12: know what everybody down on those front lines are fighting
Speaker 12: for and what we give up, and everybody, like I've
Speaker 12: always said, is a piece of the puzzle that makes
Speaker 12: it work. Without people going online like tom Cpu and stuff,
Speaker 12: we the word wouldn't be out there for all of
Speaker 12: us for what we're doing. Someone's got to be there
Speaker 12: to show us, show the world what we're doing now
Speaker 12: down there in order to make people aware of what's
Speaker 12: going on. And I just everybody in the chat say
Speaker 12: prayers for the people of Canton because you did. The
Speaker 12: world doesn't really know what's really going on down there.
Speaker 12: And the people that are up and you see their
Speaker 12: faces all the time, they're really fighting down there.
Speaker 3: It's it's torturous for them. And you know, we're not
Speaker 3: going to give up.
Speaker 12: We're not going anywhere, but we need the good cops
Speaker 12: to come and stand with us. We need people to
Speaker 12: start speaking out. This is the time. If people in
Speaker 12: Massachusetts and around the world, but especially Massachusetts, if you
Speaker 12: really truly want change and you're watching and you want
Speaker 12: change to come, we need you to start speaking up.
Speaker 3: Now is the time.
Speaker 12: So please the good cops out there, please stand up
Speaker 12: with us. It's the time to the lawmakers where this
Speaker 12: goes way up, and we know it goes up higher
Speaker 12: than morea healing. There's got to be people in our
Speaker 12: state House and above them that are good people. We
Speaker 12: need you to back us up. Finally, we are not
Speaker 12: in this just to throw it all away. We're gonna
Speaker 12: fight till we get we see change. And that's what
Speaker 12: I got to say tonight. I love everybody where. We're
Speaker 12: a giant family. We have good days, we have bad days,
Speaker 12: but no matter what, we got to pick each other up.
Speaker 12: We gotta dust ourselves off, and we have to look
Speaker 12: at the big picture. So I thank you for having
Speaker 12: me on tonight. I love all of you.
Speaker 2: Also, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: For seeing about two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll see you then bye.
Speaker 5: Say well, all right.
Speaker 1: Uh, I think the last thing we had if Kristen
Speaker 1: had a topic that you want us to tackle, and
Speaker 1: if us, I think that's it, and then that'll we're
Speaker 1: about to we're getting we're getting in about an hour
Speaker 1: and a half, so we're gonna start shutting it down.
Speaker 1: But let's see if we got one more topic we
Speaker 1: got to hit.
Speaker 11: I do like specifically have a topic other than more
Speaker 11: like a comment kind of like why is it that
Speaker 11: everybody that supports the change for Canton and supports Karen
Speaker 11: and Turtle Boy and whatnot, Why is it that we're
Speaker 11: all accused of being such horrible, vile human beings but
Speaker 11: yet we're not doing anything to anybody on the other
Speaker 11: side or the side that doesn't agree with us. But
Speaker 11: we're the ones always being attacked, and we're the ones
Speaker 11: that have damage to our property. We're not the ones
Speaker 11: doing any of this.
Speaker 5: But like.
Speaker 11: It just doesn't make sense, Like I don't know, It's
Speaker 11: like it's like they have something to hide, so they're
Speaker 11: going to attack us.
Speaker 1: Like yes, does Yeah, so let's go to let's go
Speaker 1: from Scott to Beatriz and then we'll take it around
Speaker 1: the horn from there.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's like Dennis started to say,
Speaker 4: it's definitely they're being called out.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, be adriss nod good, go ahead, go.
Speaker 4: Ahead, No, like Dennis said, they're being called out. So yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: But let me just say it real quick. This is
Speaker 1: this is this is public relations, one oh one. This
Speaker 1: is what you would learn if you were a comms
Speaker 1: major in college. This is how uh political operatives work.
Speaker 1: Is you have to do develop a counter narrative to
Speaker 1: bring the public sentiment to your side. And that's what
Speaker 1: they've done, is they've turned their obvious evil and their
Speaker 1: obvious crimes into make trying to make us feel like
Speaker 1: we're the criminals, which is what you see them do
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Go ahead to Dennis and Brenda.
Speaker 15: Guys, just absolutely truely just saying, I mean, I'm just
Speaker 15: I'm just that we have these people like especially Tommy.
Speaker 15: I mean, what he's done for us. I mean since
Speaker 15: day one. I'm just dying to find out what he's
Speaker 15: gonna say more about the twenty nine. If he's got time,
Speaker 15: he can tell us stand out that.
Speaker 10: Tommy, I think it only fits, it's fitting. I think
Speaker 10: we we have practice doing the standouts. I think it
Speaker 10: was very nice to Helena to offer the knt In
Speaker 10: Police Department anytime we need it. The bathrooms open, parking
Speaker 10: except for the church, but just parking across the street
Speaker 10: with the little white fence park over there, right across
Speaker 10: the street in the left pock there. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 10: think what. I don't think stand Out twenty four forty
Speaker 10: eight hours going to make a difference. I think it's
Speaker 10: going to bring people's attention to it. But in the
Speaker 10: long run, is it going to make a difference. No,
Speaker 10: I don't think so. I think I think Josh Levy,
Speaker 10: now once he finds a piece of evidence, he's got
Speaker 10: two years to act of it. So if he gets
Speaker 10: a piece of evidence today, we're waiting two years from today.
Speaker 10: So you gotta realize that the bug to put a
Speaker 10: bug in a district a sitting district attorney's office. Do
Speaker 10: you think they only did Norfolk County. I'm sure they
Speaker 10: did all the counties, right, because Norfolk County is one.
Speaker 10: You're hearing about, Plymouth County, Bristol County. You just don't
Speaker 10: hear about that stuff, right, It's still there, still happening.
Speaker 10: So again that the Feds, if the Feds were that,
Speaker 10: if they were that mean and scary, then Boston PD,
Speaker 10: who has been silent, they would have said something. They
Speaker 10: would have a statement out, they would have sent someone
Speaker 10: as a as a liaison to the to the try nothing.
Speaker 10: We don't even see them in zero zero from the
Speaker 10: Boston Police Department. Really, you got a dead Boston Police
Speaker 10: officer on another Boston Police officer's house, and Boston Police
Speaker 10: have nothing to say about it right time out, like
Speaker 10: what's up with that?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 2: So again to ask you see this, But.
Speaker 10: To them, it's business as usual. They're all getting paid,
Speaker 10: they're gonna get a check next week. They don't care
Speaker 10: you know they're not in jail, and the people that
Speaker 10: can put them in jail, well they get dirt on them,
Speaker 10: so they know they're not going to jail. That's how
Speaker 10: it works, unfortunately, but we have to do it. We
Speaker 10: have to do what we're doing. I think we're doing
Speaker 10: a great job. The people that are doing it actually
Speaker 10: holding the signs. I can't stress the change and the
Speaker 10: heroes they are right. Like, if you have cancer and
Speaker 10: they want to go in and take it out, you
Speaker 10: wanted to get all of it, right, you don't leave anything.
Speaker 10: You go in and get all of it, take it all,
Speaker 10: get it out of me. Same with what we're dealing
Speaker 10: with here. But it's in the corruption. You just you
Speaker 10: don't want to leave any You want to take it all,
Speaker 10: all the bad stuff you want out right. So unfortunately,
Speaker 10: when they scoop it out, more bad stuff will fill
Speaker 10: fall into that. But we can only do what we
Speaker 10: can do. I think we're doing wonderful. I think we've
Speaker 10: come a long way from where we started. You know,
Speaker 10: as a group, I think we have a long way
Speaker 10: to go. But the problem and the situation is the
Speaker 10: group that we have now, we now know we can
Speaker 10: get to where we gotta go right.
Speaker 2: We now know we can get Karen free.
Speaker 10: Now the problem is more so how we fix the corruption,
Speaker 10: which is the bigger problem, which is why Karen got
Speaker 10: put in the position to begin with. So, you know,
Speaker 10: I think we're kind of taking some stuff for granted, right,
Speaker 10: we know we can get Karen off.
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody, everybody that's doing the show is.
Speaker 10: Showing all the errors in every single piece of every
Speaker 10: part of this, from from the pre trial to the
Speaker 10: to the last day when they allowed two of the
Speaker 10: witnesses and to close the arguments is bizarre.
Speaker 1: But like.
Speaker 10: We're doing it. Guys, We're ever all doing it. There
Speaker 10: may be a surprise tomorrow morning too, but we're all
Speaker 10: doing it that we cannot stop doing this. I mean
Speaker 10: to see Dennis and his wife out there. There's no
Speaker 10: excuse why no one else should.
Speaker 2: Be out there. They're out there every day. Where's everybody else?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 10: We need to get these people, get them up, invite
Speaker 10: them in, give them a sign to hold and and
Speaker 10: maybe they'll come back and and and maybe they'll watch
Speaker 10: a show and they'll get some more and they'll understand
Speaker 10: and ask a question. We'll be able to answer it
Speaker 10: and and and I see that stuff happening.
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, I think we need more of it.
Speaker 10: You know, we're all on the same team here, and
Speaker 10: we all need to I don't know how we we
Speaker 10: double our audience, which is what we need to do.
Speaker 10: There's people in the Midwest that don't know a thing
Speaker 10: about this. That's a problem.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: We're people in Australia that know about it.
Speaker 5: So Tom, you know, to speak to what Tom I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Just DJ just look me stuping from it up kind
Speaker 5: of sitting here watching and listening to the problem in
Speaker 5: Dennis and Brenda can speak to this. I can particularly too.
Speaker 5: And I know Scott. When you stand in Canton on
Speaker 5: a standout, whether you're uptown or on the Pont Street
Speaker 5: or in front of the police station, I say ninety
Speaker 5: percent of the vehicles that go buy wave, thumbs up,
Speaker 5: beat the horn, very very very positive truck drivers probably
Speaker 5: without a state plates pulling on the air horn. Because
Speaker 5: these people from out of state, they know this case.
Speaker 5: They probably know it as well as anybody in this
Speaker 5: group right now. The point I'm making is if you
Speaker 5: talk to these people that are beeping their horn, if
Speaker 5: they stop at a light and stick your head in
Speaker 5: the window and say, hey, how come you're out out
Speaker 5: here with us. You know what they're gonna tell you.
Speaker 5: They're gonna say, I'm afraid. They're gonna tell you that
Speaker 5: they have kids in school, kids in sports, businesses in town.
Speaker 5: And let me tell you, there is an organized mechanism
Speaker 5: machine to cut the legs out from people, including the
Speaker 5: newspaper in town, one single newspaper owned by Beth Erickson.
Speaker 5: She's been in business over forty years, and there's a
Speaker 5: concerted effort to take her off the street and put
Speaker 5: that newspaper off, you know, out of business. It's it's
Speaker 5: vicious and it's fearful. And I don't I don't sanction
Speaker 5: the fact that they don't come out. But when you
Speaker 5: have children and businesses in town, your kids are gonna
Speaker 5: get ostracized, disenfranchised, disconnected. It runs throughout the whole community.
Speaker 5: It permeates the whole goddamn community. And it's and receiver
Speaker 5: a ship in my opinion, the select Wood they have
Speaker 5: sat on their hands and hid behind the drape saying, oh,
Speaker 5: it's an open page, we can't talk about it now.
Speaker 9: Yes, who's going to receive it?
Speaker 5: Though on that note, Djannel, I'll make this one short.
Speaker 5: Look at what's going on in the state House. Look
Speaker 5: at maur Heally, look at what was his name? Man?
Speaker 5: That was the acting state correct for eighteen months? Are
Speaker 5: you kidding me? It took her eighteen months to watch
Speaker 5: all that was going on with CDL licenses and all
Speaker 5: that bullshit and just let it all play out. Then
Speaker 5: she pulled him out. Now you get a new guy
Speaker 5: in there. What have we heard from him? What have
Speaker 5: we seen him do?
Speaker 11: Four lossense for a woman?
Speaker 9: Suon?
Speaker 14: Am I ready?
Speaker 5: Right? I mean Jesus Christ?
Speaker 1: And Terry has a great quote here. Wow, maybe I
Speaker 1: should do that my British accent for this one. I'll
Speaker 1: do Ken's Nana. The only thing necessary for triumph of
Speaker 1: evil is for good men to do nothing. And I
Speaker 1: also want to quote doctor Martin Luther King whose famous
Speaker 1: quote the arc of the universe is long, but it
Speaker 1: bends toward justice. So it might take time, but if
Speaker 1: we stay with our plan, if we stay together. And
Speaker 1: it's also that quote from John Dickinson they wrote in
Speaker 1: that song in Was It Uh seventeen eighty six. I
Speaker 1: think united we stand, Divided we fall, So think about
Speaker 1: that in terms of the movement, Think about if somebody
Speaker 1: pisses you off and someone says something stupid, because I
Speaker 1: could be that person, like on the next show that
Speaker 1: says something stupid that someone needs to correct me on.
Speaker 1: That's that's irresponsible. So let us come together irrespective of
Speaker 1: if we're angry with somebody, because who we really want
Speaker 1: to be angry is those jackasses who come in the
Speaker 1: chat and say, you know, ah, you know, she hit him,
Speaker 1: she hit him, she hit him, when obviously anybody can
Speaker 1: see that if you're able to critically think and use
Speaker 1: logic and reasoning, obviously she didn't hit him. And obviously
Speaker 1: they have tried to put this woman in jail for
Speaker 1: no because they want to cover up for these criminals
Speaker 1: that are parading around with police uniforms to saying, I'm
Speaker 1: a decorated dude. You know what I'm saying. What if
Speaker 1: proven to be wrong? What are you going to do that?
Speaker 8: Jeff?
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god, go to English class, dude.
Speaker 1: So anyway, let's get some parting shots, parting comments from everybody,
Speaker 1: starting with none other than Beatrice, and then we'll just
Speaker 1: go right on down the line, like Jerry Rafferty sanging
Speaker 1: that song, right, man, I hope you guys know Jerry
Speaker 1: Raffert here we got problems and it's a great song.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Beatrice.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you to the panel for joining us and
Speaker 4: speaking your truth. We really appreciate it, and you know
Speaker 4: we'll continue to stand with you know, the people of
Speaker 4: Canton and you know, sending you love and strength always.
Speaker 1: Thank you Dennis and Brenda Sweeney, the legends.
Speaker 15: I just say the same thing, Thank you very much
Speaker 15: to everybody. Thanks somebody us on the show.
Speaker 8: Thanks.
Speaker 15: I'm just so glad I got to meet you people,
Speaker 15: and well, like family. Now, like everyone says that people,
Speaker 15: you just don't understand how it is, but it really is.
Speaker 15: We are really a family. We fight like family. Yeah,
Speaker 15: I go like family. But and yeah we're all going
Speaker 15: to be having each other's back.
Speaker 9: Yes, a great.
Speaker 1: We think about you guys every day when we wake up.
Speaker 1: Every day I'm checking in trying to find out what's
Speaker 1: going on. Every day we're thinking about you, even though
Speaker 1: we're not there and we're not in danger that you're
Speaker 1: We know that.
Speaker 8: You know, sir, we appreciate it, believe me, Miss.
Speaker 1: Uh, Miss Kristen, your parting thoughts.
Speaker 11: Ma'am, thank you for having me. It was pleasure, pleasure.
Speaker 11: I love being here. It was great. We had fun.
Speaker 11: Everybody that's on the panel is a big, huge, great group.
Speaker 11: We may not see each other every day, but we
Speaker 11: act like we do where we all have each other's
Speaker 11: back and we're all here for the right reason. And
Speaker 11: like Dennis said, you know, we're family and we may
Speaker 11: not get along every day, but hey, that's all right.
Speaker 11: We love each other that much more and we fight
Speaker 11: like we're brothers and sisters they were an old married
Speaker 11: couple or whatever. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 11: we're all here for the same reason. And I know
Speaker 11: personally the fact that if I needed help, I could
Speaker 11: call anybody here and they'd be right there to help me,
Speaker 11: and they can do the same thing. Call me anytime
Speaker 11: and I'm there.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And you know, we did get a
Speaker 1: lot of Beatrice's beautiful today and not quite as much
Speaker 1: DJ's beautiful. But you know we can. We've got your
Speaker 1: work on these things. Anyway, go ahead, Cpu.
Speaker 10: I need to thank everyone that that's on the panel.
Speaker 10: First off, it's an honor to be here. The people
Speaker 10: that are out there.
Speaker 2: Standing out I mean, and.
Speaker 10: Enough can't be said about the courage it takes in
Speaker 10: in the what we've got and where we've come together
Speaker 10: as a group.
Speaker 2: I mean, we can do more as a group than
Speaker 2: we can individually.
Speaker 10: We've figured that out again, the growing pains, I think
Speaker 10: we are behind us now.
Speaker 2: We know what and where we got to go, and
Speaker 2: I think we know how to get there.
Speaker 10: I woke up this morning and I didn't have a
Speaker 10: murder chad over my head, right, imagine that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or eighteen indictment or no, eighteen indictments like Turtle
Speaker 1: boy like he has to wake up every day and
Speaker 1: think about that. He has to fight that. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough, tough road to home man.
Speaker 10: And we all know how dirty and corrupt they're playing,
Speaker 10: which makes it more frustrating.
Speaker 2: So I mean, we're doing the best we can.
Speaker 10: And with that said, if you would like to come
Speaker 10: out and join us for a meal of food, We're
Speaker 10: going to be in Denham at a place called Tavern
Speaker 10: on the Green. It's a great restaurant. If you want
Speaker 10: to go, please send me an email so we just
Speaker 10: get a head count. If you have an idea, so
Speaker 10: I can reserve as many tables so we we know
Speaker 10: what we're getting. So the email is cp U T
Speaker 10: O M at Gmail. Everybody's welcome. It's just if you
Speaker 10: want to come out and have dinner, have dinner with us.
Speaker 10: That's your audio own food, pay for your own food,
Speaker 10: and we're all gonna hang out and kind of shake
Speaker 10: hands and say hi to everybody you know about me.
Speaker 5: Dennis and.
Speaker 10: January January twelve, Scott will be there, Peter. I mean,
Speaker 10: it's the place to go if you got I don't
Speaker 10: know where it is.
Speaker 5: It's very easy.
Speaker 2: I'll be too right up the highway. I can't understand.
Speaker 8: That was what the resturan is.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's Tavern on the Square Cpu.
Speaker 2: I know you like to call it the Green, but
Speaker 2: it's the Square.
Speaker 1: I like it because Tavern on the Greens in New
Speaker 1: York City. And it's making me think that Tom likes
Speaker 1: New York and I'm a New Yorker. So it's all
Speaker 1: good man. So, but my heart is in Franklin, mass
Speaker 1: which this man right here knows that Mark Cunningham. We're
Speaker 1: going to see him there. He's a Dean College brother.
Speaker 1: I think he's a class of two thousand or or
Speaker 1: you nineteen ninety four, Mark, I can't remember. You might
Speaker 1: be nine, you're ninety four, I think. But yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a Dean brother. So and Leanne Bravo is going
Speaker 1: to be there. I think Leanne's class of two thousand
Speaker 1: marks class in ninety four.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the standouts. I met him personally.
Speaker 10: So and there's people you meet along the way that
Speaker 10: it's just fabulous people. Enough can't be said about the
Speaker 10: people that were that were amongst the people, the talent
Speaker 10: that the love that here.
Speaker 1: Hold up, hold up, Franklin mass Baby, that's what's up
Speaker 1: the show? All right?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Uh shots from a Pete Murphy, Sogeant.
Speaker 5: Matthy, we'll make it brief again to reiterate a fish
Speaker 5: rots from the head down. We touched on the fact
Speaker 5: that all of the support of the motorists going by
Speaker 5: us on these standouts in Canton is about ninety plus percent.
Speaker 5: But these people are not coming out. I think because
Speaker 5: of the reasons I stated a few minutes ago. We
Speaker 5: have to rely on the power of the pen. People
Speaker 5: like uh, Brenda is great at creating themes. I think
Speaker 5: we have to have letters sent to Mara Heally's office.
Speaker 5: We got a blanket Beacon Hill. We got to go
Speaker 5: to Leve's office. We got to stand out at the
Speaker 5: State House more, stand out in Levee's office more. Perhaps
Speaker 5: change our our game plan a little bit and shake
Speaker 5: it up a little bit. But to people like Tom
Speaker 5: and and all the other podcasters that are out there
Speaker 5: that are getting the theme out there and reiterating at
Speaker 5: day to day, Uh, Tom's cpu. The days that we'd
Speaker 5: go into court, there'd be one hundred of us go
Speaker 5: up and we'd sit in a warm court room. Eventually
Speaker 5: after we stood in the call, Tom would still be
Speaker 5: out there streaming and uh, you're you're a trooper And
Speaker 5: I want to thank you Tom for that.
Speaker 1: Can we can we just give a round of applause
Speaker 1: for Peter Murphy because he's a great speaker.
Speaker 8: Real hero.
Speaker 5: Now there's no eye in the word team, guys, no
Speaker 5: I in the word team. We know that. And I
Speaker 5: appreciate the vote of confidence, but I don't I don't
Speaker 5: do as much as half of the people in this
Speaker 5: forum radio that I'm looking at. So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And Peter Murphy's uniform shirt this is mine forever.
Speaker 1: So I got that where its night. I believe Scott
Speaker 1: McGinnis is up for his parting shots.
Speaker 9: I just want to say.
Speaker 6: The framing of Karen Reid and how it was able
Speaker 6: to be pulled off should.
Speaker 9: Open everybody's eyes too.
Speaker 6: Oh that's above, and how they even thought they could
Speaker 6: get away with it, and how they have been getting
Speaker 6: away with it. It's it's because a lot of people
Speaker 6: came into Free can Read thinking that the picture very small.
Speaker 9: But I think people are seeing a bigger picture.
Speaker 6: And we've talked about these topics tonight, so I'm happy
Speaker 6: about that. And I love everybody here and I love
Speaker 6: being part of the Free can Read movement. I love
Speaker 6: being that soldier on the ground and be with these people.
Speaker 6: And many of them I never knew before in my life,
Speaker 6: but I know this type of person. They're They're courageous
Speaker 6: and willing to fight and they won't stop.
Speaker 1: Thank you are so awesome, Scott. I like I said
Speaker 1: this on Christmas, I posted on Twitter. Is that the
Speaker 1: gift that I got? What you got for Christmas? You
Speaker 1: know I got a jean jacket. I mean, really, what
Speaker 1: I got for Christmas is I'm going to get to
Speaker 1: go home to New York and see my hometown friends
Speaker 1: because I am as close with my hometown friends as
Speaker 1: and my classmates from high school as anybody that you
Speaker 1: would meet. And I'm also going to get to see
Speaker 1: my new family there in Massachusetts, and so I found
Speaker 1: I'm sorry saying him it's gonna be fun when you
Speaker 1: hear it is.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you guys. And that is
Speaker 1: the blessing that I got this holiday season. I'm Jewish
Speaker 1: by birth, even though I'm my father's Talian Catholic, but
Speaker 1: I'll celebrate any holiday you put in front of me happily.
Speaker 1: And so that was the blessing that I received, as
Speaker 1: all these new friends and people that I'm very, very
Speaker 1: very proud to call friend. I also want to say
Speaker 1: that our mod, Sherry Dee, I don't know, I've lost
Speaker 1: count of how many superchats she gave tonight, but what
Speaker 1: she wanted me to tell you, she's probably at about
Speaker 1: fifty bucks right now, and she's my mod, and she
Speaker 1: said the reason that she donated she made these super
Speaker 1: chats tonight is for you guys, because of this panel.
Speaker 10: So she does just as much as we do, she
Speaker 10: just does it a different way. The whole thing everyone
Speaker 10: does their pod it's so amazing.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: Yep, that Triumvirate, the Triumvirate of Justice. I posted it
Speaker 1: the other day. It's standout Warriors to content creators without
Speaker 1: and content creators spread the word and then from there
Speaker 1: it goes to viewers. And if there's no viewers, there's
Speaker 1: no content creators. And if there's no Standout Warriors, then
Speaker 1: there's no public pressure on these people. The pressure that
Speaker 1: they see you and they have to deal with you,
Speaker 1: and it makes their little mouths go into a little
Speaker 1: they get a little angry face on them because you're
Speaker 1: there and they want you to go away and you won't,
Speaker 1: and they want to scare you, and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm scared. I've been scared before, but I'm not leaving.
Speaker 9: So they hate free Karen Read. Oh, I know, you
Speaker 9: know the ogs.
Speaker 6: No, we used to be on the stairs of the
Speaker 6: courthouse and then we get pushed onto the sidewalk.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and then you know, t A. Morrissey and Auntie
Speaker 9: Bev did the buffer zone.
Speaker 6: They just kept wring and push us away, push us away,
Speaker 6: go away, I'm going anywhere.
Speaker 8: We just like the tides, sir.
Speaker 11: My Horn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody was trying to say some good people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to jump in on one other thing.
Speaker 5: And least they said, there is no eye in the
Speaker 5: word team and we're all in this together and we
Speaker 5: all do as much as we can do with the
Speaker 5: time that we have. But I want to give us
Speaker 5: it didn't really Uh, this person didn't really come up
Speaker 5: that much tonight. As far as a name the Sandra
Speaker 5: Birchmore case, he's a question, or not a question, but
Speaker 5: a statement. If a fish rots from the head down,
Speaker 5: why did Fanning get put in charge of a jury
Speaker 5: pool or some kind of supervision on the read case?
Speaker 5: And number two, why did he come from the town
Speaker 5: of Sulton police department and end up in the DA's
Speaker 5: office investigating the birch Moore death which we know now
Speaker 5: was caused by a Sulton police officer or allegedly, so.
Speaker 9: It was just coincidence.
Speaker 5: Well, I want to, I want to. I want to
Speaker 5: tell you just a quick story. It won't take one.
Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago, and Missy Berry was there,
Speaker 5: a very good advocate for the Birchmore case. Annie Jones
Speaker 5: was there, Nancy Campbell was there. Susan Cleveland has been
Speaker 5: very Susan Cleveland DJ. You know their name. The people
Speaker 5: are all working behind the scenes and their names haven't
Speaker 5: come up, perhaps as often as it should. But here's
Speaker 5: the point of my story. They were walking to their car.
Speaker 5: It was parked right beside my vehicle a I'm gonna
Speaker 5: not I'm gonna keep this Philly generic, A Lauren Enforcement vehicle,
Speaker 5: and Scott's familiar with this story pulled up behind me.
Speaker 5: I backed out. That Lauren Enforcement vehicle pulled beyond where
Speaker 5: my spot was, and I left a fifteen foot wide
Speaker 5: spot where that vehicle could have pulled in. The officer
Speaker 5: driving that vehicle opted to back up at the driver's
Speaker 5: door of the vehicle that had missy Annie and another
Speaker 5: woman in it, who was driving the vehicle, and looked
Speaker 5: like it was going to drive into the drive his door,
Speaker 5: so that they screamed inside and had to beat the horn,
Speaker 5: and it actually set the alarm paneled panel alarm doors off.
Speaker 5: If you can believe that, that's how close it came
Speaker 5: to the door. They eventually said Jesus Christ. They backed up.
Speaker 5: After they regrouped started to go out of the driveway,
Speaker 5: and this same law enforcement officer veered at them and
Speaker 5: cut them off so that they had to put on
Speaker 5: the brakes again. It was nothing short of intimidation and
Speaker 5: fear tactics. And we know who it is and we've
Speaker 5: made one attempt at the first level to fix it.
Speaker 5: Nobody wanted to talk to square it away in the
Speaker 5: Stolton Police Department. So it's going higher.
Speaker 9: And guess what. That's what.
Speaker 6: That's why camera didn't work on Ston disrecord.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, this person's talking about how Judge bev dismissed
Speaker 1: that juror because there was zero evidence to get rid
Speaker 1: of that juror the day before, the one who was
Speaker 1: clearly pro Karen Reid, and she got rid of her
Speaker 1: the day before they'd started deliberations. And then it's right
Speaker 1: here is is Yeah, Narsissy, it's always it's always so manly,
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, to attack like a group of girls
Speaker 1: in a car, that's always just really shows how awesome
Speaker 1: you are, what a tough guy you are.
Speaker 6: I felt bad about that that day because I was
Speaker 6: either talking to Laura and or Tommy, and I was
Speaker 6: only half paying attention because I was kind of right there,
Speaker 6: but I just wasn't like looking over there, so I
Speaker 6: kind of didn't eyewitness everything. I was there, but I
Speaker 6: wasn't really seeing everything because you know, Peter asked me
Speaker 6: about it, and Mike, I saw, you know, a couple
Speaker 6: of State trooper cards like starting around, but I didn't.
Speaker 9: I didn't know the whole story.
Speaker 1: Scott and Peter. I don't know if you guys could
Speaker 1: speak to this that Tammy macmack. I don't know if
Speaker 1: there's a charge associated with what he did. Is that
Speaker 1: is that criminal or is is there a charge that
Speaker 1: you could associate with what he did?
Speaker 6: The camera on that door didn't on that side of
Speaker 6: the building, according to them, wasn't working.
Speaker 1: Of course, every camera that implicates them and something doesn't work.
Speaker 9: It's amazing what happens around there cameras.
Speaker 5: All right, Yes, sir, to answer your question or the
Speaker 5: chat room question. Yes, the motor vehicle back you know,
Speaker 5: five seven thousand vehicle backing towards the driver's door. If
Speaker 5: somebody sitting in the vehicle with two other occupants, it
Speaker 5: would be assault by means of a dangerous weapon, especially
Speaker 5: where in the second instance there was another over a gesture.
Speaker 5: We have that car cut off the occupants in the
Speaker 5: in the civilian vehicle, So it was not by happenstance
Speaker 5: that this happened. They were put in fear of an
Speaker 5: imminent battery by a dangerous weapon, which was the vehicle.
Speaker 5: If that had happened to Joe Blow citizen or anybody else,
Speaker 5: it'd be criminal child, just as I just discussed.
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, yeah, there's uh, there's there's a it's
Speaker 1: just so many ways that that that's that's the reason
Speaker 1: why I think everybody we got to try to get
Speaker 1: some sort of emails off to the AUSA about this,
Speaker 1: because he may not be aware that all these things
Speaker 1: are happening, and one way to make him aware is
Speaker 1: to flood his email inbox with these anecdotes and narratives.
Speaker 1: So I encourage seven and forty three people that are
Speaker 1: watching right now on Twitter and on YouTube, please get
Speaker 1: the email address of a USA levy his or his
Speaker 1: office and email them with your anecdotes and narratives and
Speaker 1: the dire the sort of dire nests of the situation.
Speaker 1: The necessity here for them to not look to tentacle
Speaker 1: out as far as they might in another situation, but
Speaker 1: where there are real time situations happening that are endangering
Speaker 1: and intimidating citizens at the and he may not be
Speaker 1: aware of that. Legitimately, he may not be aware of that.
Speaker 1: So let's let's let's take that upon ourselves. I'm going
Speaker 1: to uh to do it myself. Uh, tom Cpu, last thing,
Speaker 1: would you like to just preview what you got coming
Speaker 1: up tomorrow? I mean not that you need to spell
Speaker 1: beans that you're gonna spell in your show, but just
Speaker 1: what you got coming up.
Speaker 10: Get somebody on the road who may be doing a
Speaker 10: standout somewhere not near Boston. So we'll get that person
Speaker 10: on and see what's going on where they end up.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's start in the right direction.
Speaker 10: And if one person, if she changes one person's mind
Speaker 10: or talks to the right person, who I believe she will,
Speaker 10: then good things can happen and good for all of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Good job, all right, guys, uh uh there we go
Speaker 1: right there? All right? Thank you so much everybody. You
Speaker 1: guys are amazing. Via Dennis Brenda who I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: you soon. I guess we're gonna get to meet Kristen CPU.
Speaker 1: Did you have parting shots that I missed Dennis? If
Speaker 1: I missed.
Speaker 8: You, thank you? Okay, thank you everybody.
Speaker 5: Thank you, yes you well, thank you for all you guys.
Speaker 5: Do Brenda and Dennis.
Speaker 9: Love you guys.
Speaker 1: On behalf of all these guys. This is Jay saying
Speaker 1: peace out, one love. We'll see you down the road.
Speaker 1: And we're always wondering what's up round
Speaker 11: Four.