Speaker 1: This is Kathleen Martin.
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Speaker 2: Warden with Linda Zimmerman. Of course, Linda, how are things going.
Speaker 1: Our life remains interesting and you know what that involves.
Speaker 2: Yes, our lives are about as bizarre as our paranormal interests.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, yes, yeah, yeah, so we have a
Speaker 1: very interesting case. But you have some things you want
Speaker 1: to talk about first.
Speaker 2: Yes, So you know, I noticed on some of my
Speaker 2: social media that because the phone clearly listens to my
Speaker 2: conversations about things like UFOs et cetera, that there's some
Speaker 2: apps that you can self report UFO activity. So you
Speaker 2: can look up in the sky and you can go
Speaker 2: on the app and apparently input the details of that,
Speaker 2: and then you can look in real time to see
Speaker 2: where other people are experiencing. And as we always tell
Speaker 2: people to there are so many other it's great to
Speaker 2: do that. I think it's a great idea, but people
Speaker 2: have to eliminate the obvious first. You know, the FAA website,
Speaker 2: the air traffic it's very easy to find out if
Speaker 2: there's air traffic in your area unless it's military, and
Speaker 2: then you're probably out of luck. But drone activity and
Speaker 2: that pesky venus that seems to always show up all
Speaker 2: over the sky and every manner. So I think it's
Speaker 2: a great idea though, and it's a a good step
Speaker 2: in the direction. It's just we have to make sure
Speaker 2: that the reports people do out there, you make sure
Speaker 2: you're really doing good reports, because if you're reporting airplanes
Speaker 2: and satellites and star Link and all that, that's not
Speaker 2: going to help us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the there is that app also for satellites, so
Speaker 1: if you can rule out satellites, you can rule out
Speaker 1: you know, regular FAA transponders. Like you said, not a
Speaker 1: lot you can do about military, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: you can do, you know, And there's plenty of astronomy
Speaker 1: apps to make sure it wasn't venus that you were
Speaker 1: yeah seeing.
Speaker 2: I actually downloaded one for my son because we got
Speaker 2: him a telescope and you can actually hold your phone
Speaker 2: in the direction and it shows you like amazingly all
Speaker 2: the stars where they are, what they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and identifies them. It's their great apps.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So just just for yeah, just for the stargazing aspect,
Speaker 1: I recommend one of those. So all right, so shall
Speaker 1: we jump in here?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Shall Yeah. So I'm calling this UFOs a lake in
Speaker 1: Bigfoot because we're covering UFOs and Bigfoot by a lake.
Speaker 2: So I love it.
Speaker 1: See, I employed all my author years of authorship to
Speaker 1: come up with that title. But I was thinking wistfully
Speaker 1: the other day about a lot of the we've we're
Speaker 1: losing a lot of great UFO witnesses in the last
Speaker 1: few years, particularly from the wave of the eighties, and
Speaker 1: I thought of one man, Ted Windsor, who was one
Speaker 1: of the most delightful people I've ever interviewed, just a
Speaker 1: real character, wonderful and he was about seventy five when
Speaker 1: I had interviewed him, and I thought, gee, would be
Speaker 1: great to talk to him again. Fortunately he passed away
Speaker 1: a few years ago, so I thought little tribute to him,
Speaker 1: And also he had just a fascinating story which tied
Speaker 1: into some other activity. So Ted was born in nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty seven and starting in the nineteen forties his family
Speaker 1: started spending summers on Glenmere Lake in Florida, New York.
Speaker 1: Now it's beautiful there. I have kayakeed. I used to
Speaker 1: kayak every day. I have kayaked hundreds of times on
Speaker 1: Glenmere Lake, gone way back in this swampy area on
Speaker 1: the eastern coast. Have never been there at night. I
Speaker 1: think after this, you know, I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: allowed to, but yeah, canoeing or kayaking on lakes at
Speaker 1: night is kind of how shall I put it, asking
Speaker 1: for trouble something like. But he in nineteen forty seven,
Speaker 1: so we're going back. That was the Kenneth Arnold here
Speaker 1: of his size. So we're going way back. It's a
Speaker 1: beautiful summer night. He's fishing in a canoe with a
Speaker 1: friend and his father. He's about ten at this point.
Speaker 1: They're on the west close to the west bank, and
Speaker 1: the east bank is was heavily wooded, probably a lot
Speaker 1: more heavily wooded, you know. In forty seven, he said,
Speaker 1: out of the woods over the by the east bank,
Speaker 1: a bright, round lighted craft rose up. He said it
Speaker 1: was like the full moon, that bright, that round it
Speaker 1: lifted up, and he said it wasn't floating. It was
Speaker 1: moving under power, So this wasn't somebody releasing a weather
Speaker 1: balloon from right and then it underpower it moved to
Speaker 1: the south end of the lake, which believe me, is
Speaker 1: high strangeness territory. I'll try to touch on some of that.
Speaker 1: And he was just fascinated. He wasn't afraid at all.
Speaker 1: He said, he'd never even heard. He didn't know anything
Speaker 1: about UFOs. Chances are the term flying saucer hadn't even
Speaker 1: been coined yet, depending on when that summer it was,
Speaker 1: so he didn't know what a U. He didn't know
Speaker 1: what he was looking at, but he was fascinated. The father, however,
Speaker 1: had a slightly different reaction. He immediately started shouting, you
Speaker 1: didn't see anything. You didn't see anything. What's what's up
Speaker 1: with that? Had had he seen something before?
Speaker 2: What? You know? I always say this whenever I hear
Speaker 2: stories like this, How common is it that we hear
Speaker 2: two people witnessing the same exact thing having two very
Speaker 2: different reactions, often one positive and the other one very
Speaker 2: negative to some extent, Like like you said, he doesn't
Speaker 2: the term UFO probably wasn't even around, and he's just
Speaker 2: watching that. His father's freaking out, Like how two people,
Speaker 2: same event, completely different experiences.
Speaker 1: Right right? You know, it kind of makes me wonder
Speaker 1: was this man in World War Two? Had he seen
Speaker 1: other things, you know, and his ventures around the world?
Speaker 1: You know, speculation, but it just seems to be a
Speaker 1: rather extreme reaction. You know, you could imagine him saying, oh,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what is that? But you didn't see
Speaker 1: any like, we don't talk about this. So yeah, very
Speaker 1: very very interesting. So why don't there are but wait,
Speaker 1: there's more? But why don't we take our first break
Speaker 1: and come back for more?
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Speaker 2: Well, we're back on lend. You promised more before the break,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna hold you to that now.
Speaker 1: I here we go. Okay, So ever, here of Paul
Speaker 1: Smith College and the Adirondecks.
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever had.
Speaker 1: Neither, had I had to. I had to look it up.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's in the middle of the ad of Rondecks.
Speaker 1: If you go up to Lake Placid, Saranac Lake and
Speaker 1: keep going, Brian, are you familiar.
Speaker 2: With Yeah, they do a lot of outdoor environmental.
Speaker 1: Yes, environmental forestry.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Have you been there. I've been in the area. I
Speaker 1: haven't been on the campus, but I've been the parks
Speaker 1: in the area and all that. Yeah. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: rather remote. Oh yeah, yeah, and would have been more
Speaker 1: remote in the late fifties. So late fifties or very
Speaker 1: early sixties. Uh. Ted is hunting with six friends near
Speaker 1: the Paul Smith College. It's October. And guess what they're in?
Speaker 1: A canoe once again, canoe on a You think you
Speaker 1: Ted would have learned? He said there was a bright
Speaker 1: He said it was star like object, but many times
Speaker 1: bigger than a star, so clearly not a star. Because
Speaker 1: it was also moving quickly in a series of right
Speaker 1: angle turns.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay that way.
Speaker 1: No aircraft doesn't either. So they were just stunned. And plus,
Speaker 1: you're I mean, you're very vulnerable. What are you going
Speaker 1: to do, You're a captive audience. You're a canoe on
Speaker 1: a lake at night. So they watched it for a
Speaker 1: while make these right angle turns, and then it shot
Speaker 1: straight up at an extremely high rate of speed. So
Speaker 1: there were seven of them. They all saw it, they're all.
Speaker 1: But after that day, five of the guys denied anything.
Speaker 1: It all happened. So there we go.
Speaker 2: Again, Yeah we all why are they denying it?
Speaker 1: Ridicule factor, I don't or just fear right now, A
Speaker 1: lot of people just get so scared. Ted said he
Speaker 1: was later stationed at Fort Hood, Texas, and he said
Speaker 1: he saw a similar object there. So here, you know,
Speaker 1: ten year old boy has this very close sighting and
Speaker 1: guess what has another one has another one, and it's
Speaker 1: going to have another one. He was then stationed in
Speaker 1: Korea near the DMZ as a medic and he said
Speaker 1: he saw a lot of weird stuff in the sky,
Speaker 1: but you know, there's spyplanes, there's all kinds of activity.
Speaker 1: But you know, after a while you probably get a
Speaker 1: sense of what's ours, what's theirs, what's nobody's right. And
Speaker 1: he said his captain would just laugh at him and say, oh,
Speaker 1: you're being ridiculous. Until the night he and the captain
Speaker 1: saw five very bright objects come together. Sounds like the
Speaker 1: sighting I had where three objects became one. Only these
Speaker 1: separated again, and as five separate objects took off towards
Speaker 1: the north at a high rate of speed. Okay, so
Speaker 1: very interesting. Captain was a believer. After that, he said,
Speaker 1: two weeks later he got a phone call and he said,
Speaker 1: when you're in the middle of Korea, you don't expect
Speaker 1: a phone call. But somehow the call came through. A
Speaker 1: friend of his worked at a radar installation to the south,
Speaker 1: and he asked Ted. He said, have you been seeing anything?
Speaker 1: He said, We've been picking up a lot of things
Speaker 1: on radar radar quote that are too fast to be ours. Okay,
Speaker 1: and this is of wording it right, and this is
Speaker 1: this is what he's You know, people's lives depend on
Speaker 1: these radar guys. And when the radar guys is like,
Speaker 1: uh oh, what is this? And they had been tracking
Speaker 1: these objects for a couple of weeks, going right over
Speaker 1: Ted's position. So chances are that sighting he and the
Speaker 1: Captain had was captured on radar. And he said, you know,
Speaker 1: I know what I saw. He goes, but it's really
Speaker 1: nice to get radar confirmation, right, so.
Speaker 2: You know, was he was it the years he served?
Speaker 2: Was it after the war? When you know, I'm curious,
Speaker 2: you know how how active the area was around the
Speaker 2: DMZ even then? You know if it was in the
Speaker 2: years afterwards, do you think any air traffic in that
Speaker 2: area not only is it restricted but closely monitored?
Speaker 1: Right, right, I don't think he was there during the war.
Speaker 1: I could be I could be wrong on that, but
Speaker 1: he you know, I'm not sure. But yeah, still in
Speaker 1: the fifties or early sixties, the DMZ area of Korea
Speaker 1: probably a very interesting place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of tensions where right, both sides were
Speaker 2: expecting the other side to come across at any moment.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure that radar operators in that era were
Speaker 2: specifically looking for unusual targets that could indicate aircraft or
Speaker 2: bombers and things.
Speaker 1: So right, right, Yeah, there was a sighting which really
Speaker 1: put UFOs on the map in the I don't want
Speaker 1: to give the wrong date, but it was two crews
Speaker 1: of B twenty nine craft saw bright, bright orange round
Speaker 1: object over two different cities, and that information went worldwide
Speaker 1: and it really started putting the idea of UFOs in
Speaker 1: people's heads. But again, who's of B twenty nine's They
Speaker 1: kind of should should be considered reliable witnesses, you would hope,
Speaker 1: or you wouldn't be putting them in a B twenty nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would, you would think the highly trained people
Speaker 2: are pretty incredible witnesses here.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah so another so this activity he
Speaker 1: sees even on the other other side of the world.
Speaker 1: But let's come back to Glenmere Lake again. He is
Speaker 1: now in the nineteen seventies. He is a surveyor and
Speaker 1: so gets to go through you know, the woods all
Speaker 1: in the area, and he started going back to his
Speaker 1: beloved Glenmure Lake and he said, one day he's out
Speaker 1: hunting with a friend in those woods on the east
Speaker 1: side of the lake where he saw that craft rise
Speaker 1: out of it, and they had a pack of hunting dogs,
Speaker 1: beagles and you know beagles. They just let me add
Speaker 1: it right, they love to be out in the woods.
Speaker 1: And they said, these beagles had been out hundreds of times,
Speaker 1: you know, show no fear. They go, they go after things.
Speaker 1: He said. All of a sudden, the whole pack of
Speaker 1: beagles comes running back, he said, quote scared to death,
Speaker 1: like what you know what scares a hunting dog? All
Speaker 1: of them rule pack at the same time, he said.
Speaker 1: Then the two of them hurt. He said, heard in
Speaker 1: quotes a beeping sound. He said, it wasn't something we
Speaker 1: heard with our ears. It was like in our heads.
Speaker 1: I felt like it was a warning to stay away.
Speaker 1: So clearly the hunting dogs heard it as a warning
Speaker 1: or something scaring them off. However, Ted's friend says, we've
Speaker 1: got guns, let's go find out what it is.
Speaker 2: That never ever ends.
Speaker 1: Well, what could go wrong? You're in a UFO area
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go running in there with guns when
Speaker 1: the dogs are running the other way. So Ted said,
Speaker 1: I said to him, you can go over there, but
Speaker 1: I'm not because he remembered that sighting and anything that
Speaker 1: is beeping in their heads and terrifying their hunting dogs,
Speaker 1: so that was probably wise. He didn't do that. So,
Speaker 1: you know, there's just so much bizarre things I have
Speaker 1: heard over the years. Glenmere Lake. I had one witness
Speaker 1: just a year or two ago say they were remember
Speaker 1: the craft landed on the south side. Yes, they were
Speaker 1: doing some hiking. And this is very weird, very convoluted.
Speaker 1: I could probably spend a whole episode on this. But
Speaker 1: they saw some strange looking people walking that then they
Speaker 1: lost sight of them when they shouldn't have lost sight
Speaker 1: of them, and they tried like where did that person go?
Speaker 1: And you know, like the ground was muddy and there
Speaker 1: were no footprints, and there was even an old car
Speaker 1: they saw that was driving through the woods, which shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been driving through the woods, an older car, and
Speaker 1: again it's just it wasn't there. They tried to track
Speaker 1: it and it was like headed for the lake. They
Speaker 1: went all the way down to the lake, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't really a road you wanted to. It was more
Speaker 1: of like a path, right, And he just he just
Speaker 1: said a couple times things have been happening, like he's
Speaker 1: kind of looking at stuff that wasn't really there or
Speaker 1: maybe happened before. Just weird stuff, like mind boggling weird stuff.
Speaker 1: And that's on the south end where I've been. I've
Speaker 1: been down. There's some big houses there now, good luck.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what goes on. There's some very
Speaker 1: big houses there now, but you can imagine years ago
Speaker 1: was probably all dense woods with UFOs landing in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I would love to know anybody who there's a
Speaker 1: lot of looks like summer cabins on the east side
Speaker 1: that are now, you know, lived in year round. I
Speaker 1: would love to hear from anybody who's vacationed at Glenmere
Speaker 1: Lake or lives there there. I mean, these are just
Speaker 1: the few things I've heard. I'm sure there has to
Speaker 1: be a lot more going on that hasn't been reported.
Speaker 2: Would it be too weird if we knocked on people's
Speaker 2: doors and asked?
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be the first time, would it. We've been there,
Speaker 1: done that with, you know, with the murder cases and things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you know anybody in from that area
Speaker 1: or you spent the summer there, I'd love to you
Speaker 1: know here it is a lake related place again. So
Speaker 1: that's the UFOs and the lake part. I promised you
Speaker 1: something else, But why don't we take our second break
Speaker 1: and come back for the big Foot portion of tonight's program.
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Speaker 2: This is Hudson River Radio dot com. Yeah, and welcome
Speaker 2: back to the episode, which should be titled Lake's UFOs Encryptids.
Speaker 1: Oh my, oh well, we can switch it. It's pretty
Speaker 1: good though, Yeah, and high strangeness. But so, just this
Speaker 1: past week I was interviewed for a film on Strange
Speaker 1: Things in the Hudson Valley. I don't know why they
Speaker 1: called me but don't imagine. One of the stories I told,
Speaker 1: one of the cases I've investigated fits in very nicely
Speaker 1: with tonight because it happened at dun Dun duh, Glenmure Lake.
Speaker 1: So h we have lots of UFO stories from Glennmure.
Speaker 1: We have weird things things happening on the south side.
Speaker 1: And in eighteen eighty one, I think it was May
Speaker 1: of eighty one. You know, we both love combing old
Speaker 1: newspapers and archives. The smell of archives in the morning. Yes,
Speaker 1: that old musty paper came across a couple of newspaper,
Speaker 1: long detailed newspaper articles that in May of eighty one,
Speaker 1: people's livestock started going missing. Dogs are going missing. And
Speaker 1: somebody found a cave on the property of William Green.
Speaker 1: I looked it up in the old Orange County maps
Speaker 1: and found exactly where his farm was on the east
Speaker 1: side of Glenmere Lake. And they found this cave and
Speaker 1: it had the bones of animals, goats or sheep been
Speaker 1: there was a they said, a dog with its back broken,
Speaker 1: which is horrible. But clearly something was taking animals and
Speaker 1: eating them, all right, you would hope it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a person doing that, but you never know. So someone
Speaker 1: was walking through the woods. This was an active farm,
Speaker 1: but you know, there were wooded areas on this farm,
Speaker 1: and he happened. He didn't realize. He was walking near
Speaker 1: the cave, and apparently he came across a human like humanoid,
Speaker 1: something tall and lots of shaggy hair covering its body.
Speaker 1: He said, between seven and eight feet tall. He's terrified.
Speaker 1: He looks at this thing and it apparently let out
Speaker 1: this screaming shriek. That was one of the things people
Speaker 1: were hearing at night, this strange sheep shriek through the woods.
Speaker 1: So this thing screams at him. He passes out. He
Speaker 1: is out by the time he woke up. Fortunately he
Speaker 1: hadn't been eaten. He got up, he got out of there.
Speaker 1: And then a couple of farm workers sat down for
Speaker 1: lunch one day and they see something kind of stooped
Speaker 1: over walking through the woods. They think it's an old
Speaker 1: man or something like that, and one of them was
Speaker 1: very nice. He says, hey, old men, you want you
Speaker 1: want half my sandwich? You know, figures maybe it's somebody
Speaker 1: down on their luck. And it gets closer and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh crap, it's not human, and it looks at it
Speaker 1: looks at them, They look at it, and here we go.
Speaker 1: This is one of the things that makes me think
Speaker 1: it wasn't an eight foot tall human. It gets down
Speaker 1: on all fours and races back into the cave. Okay,
Speaker 1: people tend not to drop down on all fours and
Speaker 1: run very fast. Not generally, not generally Okay. There was
Speaker 1: a great comment in one of the articles that said
Speaker 1: people refused to to ride on Glenmere Road at night.
Speaker 1: No one would go. It would even go on the
Speaker 1: road during this time. And they said that it was
Speaker 1: just the farm of William Green. They said Bill Green
Speaker 1: couldn't sell his really good farmland for one cent an
Speaker 1: acre at this point. So it's this is bad people
Speaker 1: are the whole town is terrified. They won't go anywhere
Speaker 1: near it. So enter iras Sebolt, who I looked up
Speaker 1: and he was a person living in Orange County at
Speaker 1: the time. I'd like to find descendants and we'll find
Speaker 1: out in a moment why he was a hunter. And
Speaker 1: one day he was on a canoe in the Glenmere
Speaker 1: Lake and he figures, Ah, I've got my gun, let
Speaker 1: me go hunting for this. They were calling him the
Speaker 1: wild man of the rocks. That's so, you know, they
Speaker 1: didn't have the Bigfoot term. So when you don't understand something,
Speaker 1: let's shoot it, right.
Speaker 2: That was his the best option in these cases, I think,
Speaker 2: or at least it seems to me that's what they think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but damn, what if it was some crazy old
Speaker 1: person who just let his hair grow, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go kill it. So he's sneaking up
Speaker 1: towards the cave area and he sees this black, shaggy
Speaker 1: haired creature stretched out on the rock, sunning himself. Not
Speaker 1: not you know, hurting anybody, not threatening anybody. So he says,
Speaker 1: he draws a bead on its head and fires, and
Speaker 1: fortunately he missed. He said, the hair was so thick
Speaker 1: and shaggy. He must have you know, miscalculated, but he
Speaker 1: must have at least skinned it, because the poor thing
Speaker 1: screamed in pain and rage and ran back to its cave.
Speaker 1: He went running up to the rocks, and there was
Speaker 1: a big hunk of hair there. He must have, you know,
Speaker 1: hit the head and tore off a big Who knows
Speaker 1: if he damaged the skull or whatever, but in all
Speaker 1: whatever damage, he caused. He caused a big chunk of
Speaker 1: hair to be shot off the head of this poor creature.
Speaker 1: Said it was about eight inches long, black and course,
Speaker 1: and they actually sent it to some scientist eighteen eighty one.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not running DNA or anything. And the
Speaker 1: best they were able to determine it was either human
Speaker 1: or ape. Okay, not not nailing it down, you know, poorly,
Speaker 1: but it was good because it wasn't a bear.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just that was my thought that you know,
Speaker 2: bears do tend to sometimes behave they do stand up,
Speaker 2: They could be quite right menacing when they do, but
Speaker 2: then they run rapidly on all fours.
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, So that was a post So that's
Speaker 1: great physical evidence. This doesn't happen to You don't often
Speaker 1: shoot hair off of a big voel. So why I
Speaker 1: was hoping to find descendants of either I Receibal the
Speaker 1: Hunter or William Green the farmer, because Sabolt kept part
Speaker 1: of the hair and William Green kept a chunk of
Speaker 1: the hair. So I'm one, I one would hope that
Speaker 1: wouldn't get tossed out in the family. So we're throwing
Speaker 1: that out too. Florida, New York William Green. I don't
Speaker 1: think Ira Siebolt lived in Florida, New York. I think
Speaker 1: he lived in Middletown or somewhere in the area. If
Speaker 1: you know any descendants, could you imagine finding that hair today?
Speaker 2: That would be an incredible fine. So I hope someone
Speaker 2: out there listening help right, just goes, oh, that was
Speaker 2: my great great you know, great grandfather, and he kept
Speaker 2: that hair in his bible or something.
Speaker 1: But I wondered what that hair was, and yeah, in
Speaker 1: that in that box. So glen Mere Lake, we've got
Speaker 1: bizarre high strangeness with people and vehicles appearing and disappearing.
Speaker 1: On the south side, we have UFO rising up out
Speaker 1: of the east side landing on the south side, we
Speaker 1: have terrified hunting dogs and a strange warning beeping going
Speaker 1: on your head on the east side, and then on
Speaker 1: the west side. In eighteen eighty one at least we
Speaker 1: have the uh what I called the Beast of glen
Speaker 1: Mere in fact that if you want more information, and
Speaker 1: I have pictures of the area and the map I
Speaker 1: had several years ago, I did a YouTube, So look
Speaker 1: up a Beast of glen Mere on YouTube, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a five or six minute video but shows
Speaker 1: you exactly where that was. And I think I know
Speaker 1: the farmhouse which still exists. I would love to get
Speaker 1: on the property. Could we find that cave?
Speaker 2: I you read my mind. I was just thinking the
Speaker 2: same thing, like is that cave still there? What you know?
Speaker 2: I want to know?
Speaker 1: Now? Are there bones in there? Is there any DNA?
Speaker 1: Is there any droppings of the wild men of the rocks?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: You know you can learn a lot from scat as
Speaker 1: they can call it. So, I mean, what would they
Speaker 1: do with the cave? Are they going to do? Blow
Speaker 1: it up?
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, seal it up? I how big of
Speaker 2: a cave is it? I'm curious?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so wow, we have more questions than answers today.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I definitely would love to walk around
Speaker 1: that old William Green farm and see if we can
Speaker 1: find that cave. So anyway, thank you Ted Windsor for
Speaker 1: your fabulous eyewitness accounts and definitely yeah, just he was
Speaker 1: a great witness and we're losing too many, too many
Speaker 1: of those great witnesses. And it's good to you know.
Speaker 1: This is all in my book, The Hudson Valley UFO's
Speaker 1: Best Best Evidence, The Big The Big Book, yes, the
Speaker 1: massive volume of hus all things Hudson Valley UFO, but
Speaker 1: the the the Beast of glenn Mere isn't in there,
Speaker 1: so you can see that that video. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: would love to hear from people if you have any
Speaker 1: information on anything we talked about tonight. And we have
Speaker 1: some work to do, Mike.
Speaker 2: We definitely do. And I just wanted to throw out
Speaker 2: that through out there that sometimes or often, when you
Speaker 2: have UFO reportings, you have cryptid sightings, whether it's a
Speaker 2: Bigfoot or some other you know, mysterious type of a creature.
Speaker 2: So whatever people's opinions on those types of things are,
Speaker 2: they do tend to go hand in hand to some extent,
Speaker 2: so they may be related, but you know they could.
Speaker 1: Be yeah, yeah, And here in one I mean Glenmere Lake, Florida,
Speaker 1: New York. Not not a huge area, not a you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of an obscure place in the whole scheme
Speaker 1: of things. And starting back in eighteen eighty one at least,
Speaker 1: we've got a very well documented Bigfoot case with evidence
Speaker 1: starting in the nineteen forties UFO stories and even in
Speaker 1: recent times, the weirdness on the south end of the lake.
Speaker 1: When I think of how many times I kayaked by
Speaker 1: myself there. I'm glad I didn't know these stories. I
Speaker 1: even used to go in the winter sometimes when there
Speaker 1: was a thin layer of ice and I would just
Speaker 1: plow my kayak through the ice there. But yeah, again
Speaker 1: never never in the dark. So maybe that's the key.
Speaker 2: Well, now we have to go kayaking at night on Glenmere.
Speaker 1: Lake sounds like a play and to me, and hiking.
Speaker 2: I didn't say I wouldn't do it, and.
Speaker 1: Hiking through the woods on the west side, all right,
Speaker 1: then take us out.
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