Speaker 1: Who Fighters best songs. Possibly it's in the it's in
Speaker 1: the mix, it's in the conversation. I think it might be.
Speaker 1: I think it's it might be my favorite food sid
Speaker 1: Foods food Fighter song. Excuse me, but Ken Palmeroy is
Speaker 1: sitting across from me, Foo Fighters fan. I believe. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: best food Fighters song in the mix, in the conversation. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's in the conversation certainly. Okay, fair enough. How are you? Ken?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well, Spence. It is your time of year,
Speaker 1: Ken Pomeroy live in studio for an entire hour, so
Speaker 1: buckle up. If you've not filled out your brackets, it's
Speaker 1: time to get some some tips, some knowledge here and
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Speaker 1: You can play against us the talent on air. That's
Speaker 1: where the call us. That's not my term, that would
Speaker 1: be pretentious. Uh. You don't fill out brackets very often,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, Yes, yeah, I try to avoid it.
Speaker 1: I try to avoid it. I mean I filled out one.
Speaker 2: I do have one here, Spence that I filled out
Speaker 2: nice against my will. But just to appease folks like you.
Speaker 2: I have a bracket folks like me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't exactly know what that means.
Speaker 2: That just means Like when I do media appearances, people
Speaker 2: are always like, oh, you got in your sweet sixteen
Speaker 2: in the South region or whatever, and like, okay, I
Speaker 2: have I have an answer. Okay, that's good for that purpose.
Speaker 2: I'm not entering a pool of any type. I just
Speaker 2: want to make that clear.
Speaker 1: Okay, no pool. Ken Palm is not entering a pool.
Speaker 1: But coming up in our second segment, we are going
Speaker 1: to talk about your bracket and I'm going to take
Speaker 1: notes because I have a family bracket, I have a
Speaker 1: friend bracket, and then I've got to try to win
Speaker 1: this thing again at work, which I've done five straight years.
Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. Wow, humble brack So North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Nobody thought that they should be in, right at least,
Speaker 1: that's I felt like most people thought that they, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of got lucky to get in West Virginia whatever.
Speaker 1: San Diego State's a good team. That was not a
Speaker 1: fair fight. Are you okay with Carolina getting in? I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that you know that's kind of your your feeling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Yeah, the narrative kind of got out of
Speaker 2: control respect to Carolina. I mean, part of it is
Speaker 2: because their AD is on the is the head of
Speaker 2: the basketball selection committee, So that was one issue. The
Speaker 2: second issues that the AD got a bonus if their
Speaker 2: team made the field, So that probably shouldn't be allowed
Speaker 2: if you're on the committee. I don't think it should
Speaker 2: be in your contract that if your team gets in
Speaker 2: you get a bonus. It's a bad look. It's a
Speaker 2: very bad look. Even though the AD, Bubba Cunningham, was
Speaker 2: required to not be in the room for any discussions
Speaker 2: about Carolina, nonetheless bad look. But the reality was Carolina
Speaker 2: actually did deserve to be in the tournament. If you
Speaker 2: look at some of the more useful resume based metrics,
Speaker 2: it was really Xavier was the team that got in
Speaker 2: that shouldn't have got in. But because Xavier did not
Speaker 2: have representation on the committee, nobody cared about Xavier and
Speaker 2: everybody focused on Carolina, And as we saw last night,
Speaker 2: I mean that's not proof that they should have been in.
Speaker 2: But obviously, at their best, Carolina is a very very
Speaker 2: good team.
Speaker 1: I mean I've watched I've watched them here there this
Speaker 1: year and they've they've got some good wins, but like
Speaker 1: San Diego State, it's a good defensive basketball team. They
Speaker 1: could not do a thing against Carolina last night.
Speaker 2: This is like a long running issue with Mountain West too,
Speaker 2: where it's like, yeah, you think, you know, you look
Speaker 2: at their profiles and you think some of these teams
Speaker 2: should be more competitive than they are in these first
Speaker 2: round games, and yeah, ultimately that was, I mean, just
Speaker 2: a brutal look for the Aztecs. This was not a
Speaker 2: you know, a great San Diego State team, not on
Speaker 2: the level of the team you know two years ago
Speaker 2: they got to the title game.
Speaker 1: But it's still a team that Yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: pretty good defensive team. They got Magoon gwathe back, who
Speaker 1: is a.
Speaker 2: Sneaky, fringy NBA prospect Rin protector type of guy, but
Speaker 2: they were no match for the tar Heels.
Speaker 1: So Ken Pomeroy, who is one of the most wildly respected,
Speaker 1: widely and wildly but widely respected college basketball mines in
Speaker 1: the country, has his bracket sitting on the counter in
Speaker 1: front of me. I feel like it's like the Holy Grail.
Speaker 1: There's this like magical kind of feel around it. But
Speaker 1: before we get to the bracket, which we'll do a
Speaker 1: little bit later. Let's start with general tips and pieces
Speaker 1: of advice as people. I know you don't love this stuff,
Speaker 1: but hey, it's you know, people are going to fill
Speaker 1: out brackets, and a lot of people filling out brackets
Speaker 1: now that haven't watched basketball year. I told you this
Speaker 1: is the time of year where I'll get text from
Speaker 1: my aunts or you know, family members I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to in a while, like hey, will you fill up
Speaker 1: my bracket? I'm like, just so you know, it's an
Speaker 1: exercising futility. But you hear things like great coaching, You
Speaker 1: hear things like great guard play, you hear things like
Speaker 1: matchups whatever, just for our listeners that are about to
Speaker 1: sit down and fill out a bracket, just generals, generally speaking,
Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view pieces of advice.
Speaker 2: Ken, Yeah, I wouldn't latch onto any one, you know,
Speaker 2: hyper specific aspect and pretend like that's going to be
Speaker 2: the key to your success. I mean, coaching, of course
Speaker 2: is important, but it's not an overwhelming quality if the
Speaker 2: talent isn't there. Like Bill Sell, for instance, outstanding coach,
Speaker 2: maybe the best coach the last twenty five years in
Speaker 2: college basketball. His team is not very good this year.
Speaker 2: There's nothing, no sort of magic potion he's going to
Speaker 2: come up with to get that team to the final four.
Speaker 2: The general idea is you want to be just kind
Speaker 2: of loosely informed on how good these teams are. Like
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament this year really top heavy in terms
Speaker 2: of the quality. You know, one, twos and three seeds
Speaker 2: are all probably a better quality than they normally are,
Speaker 2: so you know, picking against them, picking some sort of
Speaker 2: wild upset.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Against having fun with the upsets, but if your goal
Speaker 2: is to you know, stay in contention for your pool,
Speaker 2: you probably want to avoid picking crazy upsets in the
Speaker 2: first round or two.
Speaker 1: Well, and also, and you correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: It feels like the I went to the final four
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis back when Florida had Noah and Horford and
Speaker 1: it was UCLA with are on a falaalow. I think
Speaker 1: George Mason was the team that made it in that
Speaker 1: year as a wild card Cinderella, and they got smoked
Speaker 1: more often than not. Elite eight final four, the cream
Speaker 1: typically rises to the top. Is that fair? That's correct,
Speaker 1: That's correct, But obviously you do you do get upside.
Speaker 2: You know, you have the NC State situation from last
Speaker 2: year where they were like just amazingly lucky to win
Speaker 2: their conference tournament and then they got in in won
Speaker 2: four games in a row and.
Speaker 1: Got to the final four.
Speaker 2: This year, it seems like it's less likely for something
Speaker 2: like that to happen, just because there is such heft
Speaker 2: at the top of the bracket that there just won't
Speaker 2: be It's gonna be very hard for these teams to
Speaker 2: get knocked off early. It's not to say you're gonna
Speaker 2: have four one seeds in the final four. The chances
Speaker 2: of that happening are even this year are only like
Speaker 2: five percent, so so not great, but you're gonna see
Speaker 2: I would really be surprised if you have any teams
Speaker 2: in the final four outside of the top three seeds.
Speaker 1: Let's say, all right, of the four to one seeds. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's your cliche media guy question of the day. You've
Speaker 1: got Auburn, who's the number one overall seed. You have
Speaker 1: Duke Cooper flag expected to play on Friday. Duke will
Speaker 1: learn their opponent tonight as the final play in games
Speaker 1: are taking place. Then you've got Houston out of the
Speaker 1: Big twelve of course, and then I told you this
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago for whatever reason. And this is
Speaker 1: a problem I run into when I fill out my brackets.
Speaker 1: I'll watch a team randomly four or five times throughout
Speaker 1: the year, and they'll blow me away. That was Florida
Speaker 1: this year. Every time I watched a Florida game, I'm like,
Speaker 1: nobody's talking about them, and they're awesome. Well, they just
Speaker 1: won the tournament, the best conference in America. So Florida
Speaker 1: is the other one seed of the four to one seeds.
Speaker 1: Which team would you say either is most prone to
Speaker 1: be upset early or is the weakest of the four
Speaker 1: And why I would go with Auburn.
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, they are the lowest rated
Speaker 2: team in my ratings, so they're the number four team
Speaker 2: in the country, which is still awesome obviously, but the
Speaker 2: weakest of the four seeds. The second issue is that
Speaker 2: potentially in their second round game that we matched up
Speaker 2: with the Louisville team that has kind of themselves been
Speaker 2: under the radar all year, was kind of badly underseeded
Speaker 2: in this tournament, probably should have been a five seed,
Speaker 2: maybe a six at worse, end up with an eight
Speaker 2: But the good for Louisville is that they are playing
Speaker 2: in Lexington, Kentucky, which is like an hour drive from Louisville.
Speaker 2: And so, as you may know, Kentucky is a a
Speaker 2: basketball crazed state. Sure should be a pretty good turnout there.
Speaker 2: I mean, Auburn will have some fans, they'll travel too,
Speaker 2: but I have a feeling that Louisville will have the
Speaker 2: lion's share of the fans if they do. If they
Speaker 2: are able to get by Creighton in their first round
Speaker 2: game and matchup with Auburn, and so that's easily the
Speaker 2: toughest second round game and need these one seeds will have,
Speaker 2: so that that could be a potential issue for the
Speaker 2: Auburn Tigers.
Speaker 1: While we're in the South. Does the Committee just take
Speaker 1: a vacation during conference tournaments? I mean, Michigan wins the
Speaker 1: Big Ten tournament, they beat two four seeds, they beat
Speaker 1: a three seed, and they're on the five line, Like,
Speaker 1: does the committee just fundamentally ignore what you do in
Speaker 1: conference tournaments?
Speaker 2: I think they ignore what you do on the weekend
Speaker 2: in conference tournaments. So yeah, I thought I found it
Speaker 2: interesting that you know, there was some complain about you know,
Speaker 2: missed like the committee not paying attention to the Big Championship.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Big Ten Championship game ends like fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes before the selection show starts, so it's really not
Speaker 2: feasible for the committee to go in and tweak a
Speaker 2: bracket based on that result. I mean, the graphics are
Speaker 2: surely already made for the for the show, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: that game doesn't count. If you want that game to count,
Speaker 2: you know, play your championship game on Saturday like most
Speaker 2: other conferences. So there's that issue. I don't think Saturday
Speaker 2: counts very much either. I think the committee has admitted
Speaker 2: much in the past, like it's just so complicated to
Speaker 2: put these brackets together with all the rules that they
Speaker 2: have to deal with that for the most part, they're
Speaker 2: going to lock things in on Saturday unless you get
Speaker 2: some sort of you know, non traditional team winning a
Speaker 2: conference tournament that you have to slip into the tournament
Speaker 2: and then give another team in that large bid and
Speaker 2: maybe another team gets knocked out because of that. But
Speaker 2: barring a situation like that, they're mostly gonna say, hey,
Speaker 2: Saturday morning, our bracket is pretty much locked.
Speaker 1: You reference Xavier grabbing a bid when you didn't think
Speaker 1: they should give me just kick the tires on some
Speaker 1: overseeded teams, underseeded teams, some teams the committee got wrong.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not even so much that the committee got wrong.
Speaker 2: They got Louisville wrong based on resume. Some of the
Speaker 2: other cases are just cases where teams are fundamentally either
Speaker 2: better in the metrics or worse in the metrics than
Speaker 2: their resume would indicate. So a seemed like in Zaga
Speaker 2: is the prime example of that, and it's not an
Speaker 2: unusual situation for them. But you know, they get an
Speaker 2: eight seed, they're ranked ninth in my ratings. You know,
Speaker 2: they struggled early in the year against some of the
Speaker 2: quality opponents they played. Some of the teams they beat
Speaker 2: early in the year ended up not being as good
Speaker 2: as we might have thought. And then they got into
Speaker 2: conference play struggled a little bit. I mean, the only
Speaker 2: truly like high end quality wins you can get in
Speaker 2: that leaguer agains Saint Mary's. They lost both of their
Speaker 2: games in the regular season against Saint Mary's and then
Speaker 2: ultimately they did beat Saint Mary's in the conference tournament.
Speaker 2: But it's a team that the fundamental metrics are way
Speaker 2: higher on them than the resume, so they're more of
Speaker 2: a quality of a two or three seed, but playing
Speaker 2: as an eight seed, they'll get matched up with Houston
Speaker 2: in the second round if they're able to get by Georgia,
Speaker 2: and you know, Houston will be favored in that game,
Speaker 2: but it's a pretty tough test for Houston in that
Speaker 2: second game. And then the flip side of that would
Speaker 2: be Memphis, who got a five seed, won a ton
Speaker 2: of close games, plays in a weaker conference, ranked outside
Speaker 2: the top fifty in my ratings, So what are the
Speaker 2: weaker five seeds you'll ever see?
Speaker 1: And then they get.
Speaker 2: Matched up against Colorado State in the first round, who's
Speaker 2: one of the hottest teams in the country. So a
Speaker 2: chance here for you know, if the Mountain West is
Speaker 2: ever going to sourage some dignity, certainly a chance here
Speaker 2: for Colorado State to play a Memphis team who is
Speaker 2: weak and also possibly probably I would say, missing their
Speaker 2: normal starting point guard in Tyree's Hunter.
Speaker 1: So BYU fans and members of the BYU media, and
Speaker 1: it's just the deal where we have to be upset
Speaker 1: about everything, whether it's the CFP Committee and football getting
Speaker 1: it wrong, whether SWIG closes too earlier, they run out
Speaker 1: of sugar or their basketball team doesn't have the proper seed.
Speaker 1: I don't know that six is egregious. I think you
Speaker 1: could make an argument for a five seed. But to me,
Speaker 1: the games in Denver, You'd rather be a six seed
Speaker 1: in Denver than a five seed in like Newark or whatever.
Speaker 1: So BYU fans can drive down there before we get
Speaker 1: to the matchup. What do you make of the seed
Speaker 1: BYU is a six?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're quippling over a five or six,
Speaker 2: you need to reevaluate what's important to you in life.
Speaker 2: In the end, it doesn't it doesn't make a whole
Speaker 2: lot of difference. I mean last year BYU is a six,
Speaker 2: and they were a bigger favorite in their first round
Speaker 2: game than you know, some four seeds were. So a
Speaker 2: lot of it depends on the opponent. And the issue
Speaker 2: here is that their opponent is, you know, pretty formidable.
Speaker 2: I mean VCU is you know couch by Ryan Odam.
Speaker 2: Obviously we're familiar with him. It's just a really sound
Speaker 2: defensive team, really good interior defense. Tries to take away
Speaker 2: the three point shot to some extent, so you know,
Speaker 2: they have the ability to make BYU uncomfortable offensively, which
Speaker 2: is obviously an issue because BYU really depends on his
Speaker 2: offense to win games or defense lags behind a little bit.
Speaker 2: So so the issue here is more the opponent. But
Speaker 2: I would agree, like you're playing at altitude, I think
Speaker 2: that is of some benefit. You're playing somewhat close to home,
Speaker 2: so you're gonna have, you know, undoubtedly gonna be more
Speaker 2: BYU fans at ball arena than there there will be
Speaker 2: VCU fans. So I think some of those things will
Speaker 2: help the Cougars in their first round game.
Speaker 1: Are you a fan of a flavored soda from time
Speaker 1: to time?
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not really no, I just you know, I'm
Speaker 2: at that age where you know you just can't cram
Speaker 2: a bunch of sugar down your throat.
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm not judging. I'm sure swig is a porter.
Speaker 1: Have you ever? Did you frequent swig? Have you ever
Speaker 1: tried one of the I've got their menu pulled up.
Speaker 1: For instance, a Raspberry Dream is doctor pepper raspberry pure
Speaker 1: quote coconut cream. That's a lot of sugar. Did you
Speaker 1: frequent swig?
Speaker 3: Definitely not a frequent I don't really do the soda
Speaker 3: thing in general. So the soda with more soda or
Speaker 3: sugar is not my lane. But I have tried what
Speaker 3: I believe is called a dirty doctor pepper.
Speaker 1: Ah, it's pretty good, all right, Okay, let's get wild
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday with a dirty doctor pepper. But over
Speaker 1: to the matchup, Ken, Yes, so as you reference, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying VCUS Houston at all, but like when
Speaker 1: you kind of dig into what they like to do defensively,
Speaker 1: they've got three six ten dudes, they've got the A
Speaker 1: ten Player of the year. Former Utah State kid Ryan
Speaker 1: Otum obviously was here coaching Utah State. The line moved
Speaker 1: about an hour ago by use a two point five
Speaker 1: point favorite. Now it opened up at three point five.
Speaker 1: The Vegas action has gone the way towards VCU. Is
Speaker 1: this upset alert? How does by you get this win
Speaker 1: round one? Yeah, it's not gonna be easy.
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's it's gonna be uh, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a grind.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That's the other thing with VCUS that their defensive possession
Speaker 2: length is tenth slowest in the country. So that will uh,
Speaker 2: you know, it gives you an idea like they just
Speaker 2: forced teams to take some time to define good shots.
Speaker 2: And it also leads to the fact that vcus thirtieth
Speaker 2: in the country in turnover eight, so they're going to
Speaker 2: force some turnovers in those long possessions. They're number one
Speaker 2: in the country's shooting defense once you factor in the
Speaker 2: value of threes and two's number one in the treen
Speaker 2: shooting defense against a weaker schedule. So take it with
Speaker 2: a slight grain of salt. But they are they are
Speaker 2: not Houston. We don't want to go crazy there, but
Speaker 2: they are the the A ten kind of version of Houston.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean by he's gonna have to make
Speaker 2: some shots. It's gonna make some tough shots to earn
Speaker 2: a win here.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason I brought up the Houston parallel is
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just Houston. Iowa State b Yu beat
Speaker 1: Iowa State. But as much as there is to like
Speaker 1: about jegor demon as a pro prospect, every time they
Speaker 1: face pressure, he just he can't deal with it yet
Speaker 1: he's young. And then Kevin goes to Dollon down Hall
Speaker 1: and look, Dollen has gone through Big twelve battles. He's
Speaker 1: a vet. There's a reason Mark wantahum in Kentucky. But
Speaker 1: what happens if BYU is not knocking down their threes
Speaker 1: and the VCU pressure gets to them. Because against teams
Speaker 1: that don't have elite length like VCU, as we've talked about,
Speaker 1: bring in foos, let him go to work. But Treori's
Speaker 1: six' five, maybe and these three six ten kids are
Speaker 1: gonna give them trouble with. Length if THE yu isn't
Speaker 1: knocking down shots and the pressures getting to, them what's
Speaker 1: what's the?
Speaker 2: Answer, uh they have To they've got to figure that.
Speaker 2: OUT i don't know if there is an. Answer, YEAH i,
Speaker 2: mean but you bring up a good. POINT i MEAN
Speaker 2: vcu does have size and length of more of A
Speaker 2: Power conference. TEAM i mean they actually have this, Kid
Speaker 2: bamboye who is starts at center and he's not. Much
Speaker 2: he's very limited, offensively but he the Brit is he
Speaker 2: the kid for Ye but he's the second best in
Speaker 2: terms of like. Rate he's the second best shot blocker
Speaker 2: in the. Country blocks a higher percentage of opponent shots
Speaker 2: than anybody in the country except for one. Person and,
Speaker 2: uh and so that's you, know that's what they're. Facing but,
Speaker 2: yeah They're, yeah you worry About yegor against the.
Speaker 1: Defense it's, aggressive enforces.
Speaker 2: Turnovers kevin's shown that he's not you, know late in
Speaker 2: the season, Here he's not just gonna Leave yeager out
Speaker 2: there for starters. Minutes he's gonna make a switch when
Speaker 2: when they need. It but but it.
Speaker 1: It will be a.
Speaker 2: Struggle BUT i, mean hopefully they're gonna have to figure
Speaker 2: out how to make shots because there's no other other
Speaker 2: way around.
Speaker 1: This mainly, threes, yeah mainly. Threes mainly. Threes.
Speaker 2: YEAH i would say they're going to figure out to
Speaker 2: make some threes and they're going to get fewer of
Speaker 2: those shots than they normally. Do SO i mean that's,
Speaker 2: why you, know that's why you're just talking about. IT
Speaker 2: i mean you can kind of figure out why the
Speaker 2: margin heres is so thin that they don't have, to you,
Speaker 2: know go eighteen to thirty six from. Three but if
Speaker 2: they go you, know at the dude nine of twenty
Speaker 2: four or something like, that that would be really.
Speaker 1: Helpful so if they advance PAST, vcu they're most likely
Speaker 1: going to run Into wisconsin round. Two they get to
Speaker 1: the sweet. Sixteen what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Matchup, Well, wisconsin this is not kind of your Typical
Speaker 2: wisconsin team of the last twenty five.
Speaker 1: Years you, Know Greg guard is really modernized their.
Speaker 2: Offense they play at a much faster, pace actually faster
Speaker 2: than average pace across college. Basketball so you know that
Speaker 2: this is not a Bow ryan team that's going to
Speaker 2: grind a game down to fifty five sixty. Perz they're
Speaker 2: gonna played normal. Basketball they two love to shoot the,
Speaker 2: three top twenty in terms of three point. Rate they're
Speaker 2: not necessarily a great team in terms of percent, percentage
Speaker 2: but they're gonna have five guys out there that shoot the.
Speaker 2: Three they're gonna you, know they're they're. Big stephen Kraw
Speaker 2: is a. Guy they can shoot plenty of threes and
Speaker 2: try to you, know invert the offense and Enforce Kba
Speaker 2: cato Or fos or whoever it, is to you, know
Speaker 2: play some defense on the. Perimeter so that's the challenge
Speaker 2: that that by you would face in the second. Round
Speaker 2: it's you, Know wisconsin went thirteen and seven In Big ten,
Speaker 2: play which doesn't necessarily sound, great but The Big ten
Speaker 2: was really good this, year And wisconsin did make The
Speaker 2: Big ten, finals so it's a it's a very, solid
Speaker 2: solid team and certainly a step up FROM bcu before.
Speaker 1: We catch a. Break we're gonna get Into ken's bracket
Speaker 1: coming up, next which is sitting across from. Me are
Speaker 1: you going to take that with? You do you want
Speaker 1: to just leave it?
Speaker 2: Behind and we're gonna actually after this because this is
Speaker 2: really my last media appearance of this, Week i'm going
Speaker 2: to crumple it up and throw in the.
Speaker 1: Trash will you let me crupple it up and throw
Speaker 1: it in the? Trash if you want, to you want the,
Speaker 1: honor you can have. It, okay fair, Enough so let's.
Speaker 1: Move we Referenced Ryan otum used to Coach Utah. State
Speaker 1: Jared calhoun is their coach now and they're back in
Speaker 1: THE Ncaa tournament again and they're going to get A
Speaker 1: ucla team that on the. Season you, know they had
Speaker 1: to win At, oregon they Beat, Gonzaga they lost four
Speaker 1: or five during conference play when they got. Rolling but
Speaker 1: they do have a win Against Michigan. State they've got
Speaker 1: to win Over. Wisconsin and it's weird to SAY ucla
Speaker 1: out of The Big Ten, ken but here we Are Utah.
Speaker 1: State it's a five point five point. Dog tell us
Speaker 1: about this?
Speaker 2: Matchup, well IT'S ucla is actually quite similar TO. VCU i,
Speaker 2: mean you, know typical kind Of mick Cron an outfit.
Speaker 2: Here dependent somewhat on. Defense they forced a lot of,
Speaker 2: turnovers actually number one in kind of an obscure stat
Speaker 2: but it's a non steel turnover, percentage which essentially means
Speaker 2: they like to take a lot of. Charges so so
Speaker 2: that's something to watch for in this. Game they do
Speaker 2: force opponents to take more threes than, usual which could
Speaker 2: work In Utah states. Favor but, overall it's been kind
Speaker 2: of an up and down year for The. Bruins never
Speaker 2: really got a whole lot of. Consistency did win seven
Speaker 2: in a row in the middle Of Big ten, play
Speaker 2: but struggled a little more down the, stretch got bounced
Speaker 2: pretty emphatically By wisconsin in The Big ten, tournament and
Speaker 2: so that's kind of the. Story so it's you, know
Speaker 2: you're facing a team that's not necessarily doesn't have the
Speaker 2: firepower necessarily to run away from you, offensively but that
Speaker 2: defense is going to Give Utah states in.
Speaker 1: Trouble lazaar's S tafanovich former you A Ucla bruin for
Speaker 1: a little bit of a local. Tie we'll catch quick
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Speaker 1: Com Ken palm himself live in studio for another big
Speaker 1: segment coming up next right here ON espn seven, Hundred
Speaker 1: we've Got Ken pomeroy live in studio for one more big,
Speaker 1: segments and it is. Time it is time for The
Speaker 1: Ken pomeroy brackets. Reveal, KEN i will not go game
Speaker 1: by game by. GAME i will not do that to. You,
Speaker 1: okay we can do. WHATEVER i, mean it's that's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite radio. Bits. Wait, wait are you willing
Speaker 1: to go game by? GAME i, mean if you want
Speaker 1: to hear a bunch of radios turn, Off, yeah we
Speaker 1: can do. That, no, no, No first of, all The Frank,
Speaker 1: layton WHEN i got into this, business he gave me
Speaker 1: some great. Advice he, said just remember nobody's. Listening. Okay
Speaker 1: So i'm, like, thanks. Coach so the radio is probably
Speaker 1: have turned. Off but, look it's that time of. Year
Speaker 1: THE ncaa tournament starts, tomorrow so let's let's let's dig into.
Speaker 1: It let's start in The south. Region let's start in
Speaker 1: The south and we'll kind of jump around a little
Speaker 1: bit where you reference To auburn as the most potentially
Speaker 1: vulnerable number one, seed but they are technically the number
Speaker 1: one overall. Seed SO i would imagine you Have auburn
Speaker 1: And louisville, advancing right those? Two that's? Correct? Yep, okay
Speaker 1: so let's jump to the next. Round who do you
Speaker 1: have winning out Of auburn And.
Speaker 2: Louisville i'm going With. Louisville's, hey, yeah we're gonna take
Speaker 2: A we're gonna take a chance. Here nothing more boring
Speaker 2: than the chalk, bracket, RIGHT i? Agree, so uh SO
Speaker 2: i like to have a, little you, know little spice to,
Speaker 2: it and uh, yeah get spot For. LOUISVILLE i really,
Speaker 2: think you, know the conference narrative gets overplayed as we
Speaker 2: get into the tournament and my bracket is fading THE
Speaker 2: sec and step one here is Knocking auburn out in
Speaker 2: the second.
Speaker 1: Round, Okay so there you, go upset number one on
Speaker 1: The Ken palm. Bracket auburn advances Past Alabama, State louisville
Speaker 1: advances Past, creighton and Then louisville Beats. Auburn let's move
Speaker 1: down five. Twelve there's always weird five twelve Upsets, MICHIGAN
Speaker 1: Uc San, diego then below, Them TEXAS a AND M.
Speaker 1: Yale how do you have those matchups playing? Out we're
Speaker 1: going with the favorites in those.
Speaker 2: Games you See San diego a popular upset pick, Here
Speaker 2: michigan not a huge favorite in this game will be
Speaker 2: a tough win for The, wolverines.
Speaker 1: BUT i think they get it.
Speaker 2: Done and then we'll go WITH a AND m over
Speaker 2: THE ivy leaguers From yale who obviously pulled off a
Speaker 2: huge upset last year and Beating, auburn BUT i don't
Speaker 2: think they can do it two years in a.
Speaker 1: ROW i was going to ask you who The nerds
Speaker 1: beat last? Year it Was. Auburn that's, Right yoe beat So,
Speaker 1: TEXAS a AND M michigan. Advance who do you have
Speaker 1: advancing out of that? GAME i am going to go With.
Speaker 2: Michigan, YEAH a And m's point Guard Wade taylor shoots
Speaker 2: like thirty nine percent on two pointers.
Speaker 1: Or something like.
Speaker 2: That it's a not an ideal situation.
Speaker 1: For key buckets down the. Stretch so, yeah we're going
Speaker 1: With michigan in that.
Speaker 2: One dusty may obviously past experience getting to a final
Speaker 2: fourth Forward, Atlantic.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay moving down, Now Old miss will welcome In
Speaker 1: carolina After carolina curb STOMPED sdsu last. Night what do
Speaker 1: you think of this Matchup Old Miss. Carolina, yeah we're Going.
Speaker 2: Carolina they're, upset they're mad at the, Worlds they're properly.
Speaker 2: Motivated i'm not Sure Old miss carries that same motivation,
Speaker 2: here although they are a fine team out of the.
Speaker 2: Sec But, carolina, really i, mean down the, stretch you,
Speaker 2: know last three weeks of the, season was playing quite.
Speaker 2: Well they WERE i mean the acc is, week, sure
Speaker 2: but they were beating their opponents fair really. Easily and
Speaker 2: then of course The duke loss extremely close and an
Speaker 2: unfortunate ending. There, SO i, Mean carolina really is playing
Speaker 2: much better than an eleven seed at this?
Speaker 1: Point AM i remembering The Iowa state? Upset? Drake Was
Speaker 1: drake a fourteen seed that Upset Iowa state When Iowa
Speaker 1: state was a three seed back in the. Day is
Speaker 1: that ringing a bell to?
Speaker 2: You it's not ringing a bell to, Me, okay but,
Speaker 2: anyway definitely could have happened.
Speaker 1: Once upon a. Time Iowa state is a three seed this,
Speaker 1: year b why you beat them? Twice of? Course Iowa
Speaker 1: state out of the big, twelve. LIPSCUM i know nothing
Speaker 1: about who wins this. GAME i just want to report
Speaker 1: On Iowa state upsets. First, okay in two thousand and,
Speaker 1: one they lost as a two.
Speaker 2: Seed is that prior to the to the Infamous drake
Speaker 2: loss that we're talking.
Speaker 1: About i'm not. Sure maybe who?
Speaker 2: Did they lost To Hampton Hampton Craig bowlerjack called that, game, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: yeah the coach like ran off the court and like
Speaker 2: that one of their players like raise them. Over it
Speaker 2: seems to be the most famous first round. Loss and
Speaker 2: Then Fred hoiberg lost as a three seed TO.
Speaker 1: Uab so.
Speaker 2: Some some pretty ugly first round losses, there And iowa
Speaker 2: stayed as the team has really banged, up got some.
Speaker 2: Injuries team And lipsey there starting point guard and defensive,
Speaker 2: pest did not play in The big twelve, tournament but
Speaker 2: allegedly we'll be back for this.
Speaker 1: One Keishawan gilbert did not play as. Well he is
Speaker 1: not back for this.
Speaker 2: ONE i do think they have enough to get By,
Speaker 2: lipscomb AND i do think they have enough to get BY.
Speaker 1: Unc so you'll Take Iowash state Beating carolina. Run, well
Speaker 1: we'll say the run For carolina comes to an. End,
Speaker 1: okay there you, Go marquette seven seed taking On New
Speaker 1: mexico out of The Mountain. West and you've you're on
Speaker 1: the record about The Mountain west failures in THE ncaa.
Speaker 1: Tournament Does New mexican have a shot at the upset?
Speaker 1: HERE i mean they have a, shot But marquette here
Speaker 1: the clear.
Speaker 2: Favorite and, yeah it's just you, know when you see
Speaker 2: A Mountain west team at this, point you really better
Speaker 2: have a good reason to take. Them marquette a disappointing,
Speaker 2: YEAR a lot of people thought they might something like
Speaker 2: a top ten, team never really quite. Materialized but Cam
Speaker 2: jones has been outstanding number seven in.
Speaker 1: The kenpom dot Com player of The year. Ratings he's
Speaker 1: their go to guy and a senior and a.
Speaker 2: Leader And i'm gonna throw all the cliches here as
Speaker 2: the Y marquett wins this.
Speaker 1: Game who was the player Was Cooper flag the Ken
Speaker 1: Pom player of The. Year he.
Speaker 2: Is here's the thing about the Ken Pom player of
Speaker 2: The year on like all the Other player of The year,
Speaker 2: awards we also include THE ncaa, tournament so we really
Speaker 2: haven't crowned the player of the year. Yet If Cooper
Speaker 2: flagg is able to play he'll get. It but if
Speaker 2: he for some reason doesn't, Play Janni broom obviously second
Speaker 2: And auburn has a deep, run it's still possible For
Speaker 2: Janny broom to overtake.
Speaker 1: Him Michigan State bryant right as they, say what do they?
Speaker 1: Say death taxes and Izzohen? March is that the? Deal
Speaker 1: so what's kind of the? Deal two? Fifteen what do
Speaker 1: you MAKE i mean not he's.
Speaker 2: Not a bulletproof in In, march and he lost a
Speaker 2: game TO ucla in twenty, one been knocked out of
Speaker 2: the second round and the second round to the last three.
Speaker 2: Years but this is certainly one of his better teams
Speaker 2: PROBABLY i don't, know going since going back at least
Speaker 2: to the THE covid year or maybe the year. Before,
Speaker 2: yeah this is a Legit final four. Threat they have
Speaker 2: been getting better as the year. Goes on finished the
Speaker 2: season pretty strong by winning seven in a row at
Speaker 2: the end of the regular, season And Jace richardson the
Speaker 2: name to watch. Here some Of Jason richardson FORMER nba,
Speaker 2: player but he's a freshman who's played really, well much
Speaker 2: better down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Than he did in the first half of the.
Speaker 2: Season so, yeah team to watch Playing, bryant who is
Speaker 2: coached By Phil Martelli.
Speaker 1: Junior good. Knowledge there you. Go Jason richardson has a
Speaker 1: college age. Kid like WHEN i heard The boozer twins,
Speaker 1: like it just makes you feel, really really. Old yeah.
Speaker 2: EXACTLY i mean we've been we've been through that a
Speaker 2: few times here the last few, years so it's kind
Speaker 2: of kind of immune to that at this.
Speaker 1: Point it's. True all, Right so let's finish off this.
Speaker 1: Bracket in the sweet, sixteen you Have louisville And. Michigan
Speaker 1: who wins that. Game i'm going With michigan in that.
Speaker 2: Game just a little, bit a little bit stronger team
Speaker 2: at this, point And louisville will not have home court
Speaker 2: vibes when they get out to the second.
Speaker 1: Weekend Iowa, State, Michigan Michigan. State excuse? Me three to
Speaker 1: two there in the sweet, sixteen who advances?
Speaker 2: Here, yeah we'll go With Michigan. State it's a little,
Speaker 2: bit a little bit better. Team Iowa state banged up
Speaker 2: a bit AND i think that'll be the difference.
Speaker 1: There so we Have Michigan Michigan state in The elite.
Speaker 1: Eight yeah about. That that's pretty fun little rival.
Speaker 2: Reaction we're gonna go with Tom izzo that. Occurs by the, Way,
Speaker 2: Spence if that, Occurs Michigan state will become the first,
Speaker 2: Team get, this the first team to be seated first
Speaker 2: or second that was not ranked in the preseason eight
Speaker 2: p pole to make a final four.
Speaker 1: Of all, time of all. Time that's. Wild yeah, Wow,
Speaker 1: okay let's move over now The, east Where duke is
Speaker 1: the number one seed and they await the winner of
Speaker 1: tonight's playing. Game oh, MAN i just had this coward up,
Speaker 1: Anyway Tonight's. American Mount Saint Mary's american once coached by
Speaker 1: former NEXT gm Ed. Tapscott there you. Go, okay do
Speaker 1: we even need to discuss? This duke moves on.
Speaker 2: Easily Mount Saint mary's coached By Donnie, lynn first year head.
Speaker 2: COACH i once had breakfast with him at A panera In, Blacksburg.
Speaker 1: Virginia why did you go To panero of all the?
Speaker 2: Options well it was it was on very short, notice
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah it didn't have a lot of time
Speaker 2: to make it. Happen but that was in like twenty. Nineteen,
Speaker 2: oka and look where he is, Now. Spat i'm gonna
Speaker 2: take a little bit of credit for.
Speaker 1: That, okay go to breakfast With Ken, pom you get
Speaker 1: a college coaching, Job So i'm sure the breakfast was.
Speaker 2: Great does he have a chance in the Scamp not Against. Duke,
Speaker 2: no he has a chance Against. AMERICAN i think he's
Speaker 2: gonna pull it. Off but, Yeah duke will beat them
Speaker 2: by forty two.
Speaker 1: Points For jazz fans out, there If baylor advances Past Mississippi,
Speaker 1: state you will SEE. Vj edgecomb take On Cooper flag
Speaker 1: two very good. Prospects But Mississippi State, Baylor, ken who'd you?
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna close.
Speaker 2: Our eyes and go With baylor on that. One it's
Speaker 2: a pretty even. MATCHUP i think my maybe my bias
Speaker 2: against THE sec at this point.
Speaker 1: Is coming into.
Speaker 2: Play baylor maybe was slightly, better like higher end, talent
Speaker 2: not JUST.
Speaker 1: Vj, edgecomb but Nord Chado mere who.
Speaker 2: Previously played some meaningful tournament games At. Miami he's one
Speaker 2: of their better players as.
Speaker 1: Well so we'll go With. Baylor five twelve out of
Speaker 1: The East region is The Oregon ducks out of The big,
Speaker 1: ten which sounds so. Weird they're taking On. Liberty liberty
Speaker 1: make this? Interesting you think they?
Speaker 2: Could They've they've been playing well down the stretch coming
Speaker 2: out of conference THE usa another you, know kind of
Speaker 2: mid major team that has generally had success at their
Speaker 2: level and made a bunch of tournaments in recent. Years and,
Speaker 2: yeah it could be an interesting, game But oregon's just
Speaker 2: kind of the more talented.
Speaker 1: Team So i'm gonna go with, Them Arizona, akron and
Speaker 1: If arizona, wins we'll have some Old tac twelve buddies getting,
Speaker 1: together of, course or getting out of The Big. Ten
Speaker 1: arizona of The big twelve is. Wild akron thirteen, Seed
Speaker 1: arizona four. Seed how do you see this one going?
Speaker 1: Down we'll go With arizona in this. One do you Like?
Speaker 2: Akron John gross running a pretty up tempo system? There
Speaker 2: that first round game should be high. SCORING i have
Speaker 2: the score. Forecast it is eighty nine to seventy, six
Speaker 2: so it might be the most high scoring game in
Speaker 2: the first. Round but kind of want to See arizona
Speaker 2: advance here a round or. Two they're always just never
Speaker 2: know what you're going to get with. Them in a
Speaker 2: team that's run By Caleb love on the, court a
Speaker 2: whole lot of things could. Happen so but, yeah two
Speaker 2: teams that really love to get up and down the court.
Speaker 1: There Did arizona lose in the first round last? Year
Speaker 1: they lost in the second round last?
Speaker 2: YEAR i want to, say did they lose in the
Speaker 2: first round the year? Before lost in the sweet sixteen
Speaker 2: last year To, Clemson so it must have been the
Speaker 2: year BEFORE i picked them to win the whole. Thing
Speaker 2: they lost like the first or they lost To. Princeton,
Speaker 2: yeah that's that's what it.
Speaker 1: Was, yeah all. Right that brings us to the six
Speaker 1: Seeded Brigham Young cougars hailing From, Provo utah taking On,
Speaker 1: VCOs the eleventh. Seed we've already broken this game. Down
Speaker 1: Can Kevin young get it? Done, yeah you can get it.
Speaker 1: Done we'll advance them on to the second. Round and you,
Speaker 1: Know i'm not just saying that because there might BE
Speaker 1: byu fans out. There actually kind of enjoy picking against
Speaker 1: the local teams IF i.
Speaker 2: Can but but NOW i truly think B yu will
Speaker 2: will take care of this.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 2: Though it is the highest rated game in terms of
Speaker 2: like watchability on my site in the first. Round, okay,
Speaker 2: yeah just two like good teams should be a close.
Speaker 2: Game so it's to, me just as someone who doesn't
Speaker 2: have a stake in This i'm really looking forward to
Speaker 2: seeing how this turns.
Speaker 1: Out Wisconsin montana three, Fourteen, ken who we got the
Speaker 1: Grez really, no we're not Going oh, man that would
Speaker 1: have been. Awesome it would have been. Awesome but we'll
Speaker 1: go With wisconsin in this. One. Okay Saint mary's of,
Speaker 1: course the old old conference follow bringing me on seventh,
Speaker 1: seed taken On vanderbilt as a ten. Seed who do
Speaker 1: you like? Here?
Speaker 2: Yeah once AGAIN i Will i'll pick against the Sec
Speaker 2: Saint mary's with the eighth best defense in the country
Speaker 2: led By augustus. Marshallonas, yes shout out To, sirunas right
Speaker 2: out out To.
Speaker 1: Sirunas. Yeah remember the Tai die The lithuania tidye jerseys
Speaker 1: back in the. Day all, right, absolutely, yeah all, Right
Speaker 1: So Saint mary's advance is past vandy absolutely. Yep alabama two,
Speaker 1: Seed Robert morris fifteen, Seed, ken you should know that
Speaker 1: you are talking to A Robert morris recruit circle nineteen ninety. Six,
Speaker 1: Really i've got like three letters From Robert. Morrise that's.
Speaker 1: Amazing that wasn't. AMAZING i, mean they're they're decent. Now
Speaker 1: it was just like a throwaway. THING i wouldn't throw that. Away,
Speaker 1: well that was kind of the LEVEL i should have
Speaker 1: tried to play out instead of BELIEVING i could play
Speaker 1: it to you because that didn't work. Out But alabama,
Speaker 1: Too Robert morris.
Speaker 2: Fifteen who you? Got, yeah it's going to Be. Alabama
Speaker 2: but shout out To Robert. Morris they back in your.
Speaker 2: DAY i believe we're in The Northeast. Conference, indeed now
Speaker 2: they're in the, leagues you, know advanced up a level
Speaker 2: and they have been up to the task and won
Speaker 2: the league this. Year so shout out to. Them but,
Speaker 2: Yeah bama's the far superior outfit.
Speaker 1: Here round two in The East, Seas duke And Cooper
Speaker 1: flag taking On baylor AND Vj.
Speaker 2: Edgetroum who you got, Here, KEN i Got duke winning.
Speaker 2: This we're Assuming cooper's gonna be. Healthy but even if,
Speaker 2: Not baylor has really struggled against top flight competition this,
Speaker 2: year So duke is still gonna be able To they're
Speaker 2: still gonna be able to get to the second weekend
Speaker 2: if even if they don't Have cooper flag this.
Speaker 1: Weekend since you brought that, up do you think they
Speaker 1: should even Play cooper On friday against Whatever the winner
Speaker 1: of this playing game.
Speaker 2: Is, Right it's, yeah it's a little. SUSPECT i, mean
Speaker 2: if he does, play you have to think that he's
Speaker 2: like fully, healthy, Right like it's a great sign if
Speaker 2: he does. Play but, yeah there's really no reason to
Speaker 2: risk it Against Mount Saint Mary's.
Speaker 1: Oregon five, Seed arizona four, seed round to two Former
Speaker 1: pac twelve. Buddies Here kenyo gets it. Done we're gonna
Speaker 1: go with The. Wildcats still still on board With.
Speaker 2: Arizona just a really consistent season this year in The big,
Speaker 2: twelve so we think they'll they'll get.
Speaker 1: It DONE byu advances according to our. Model here to
Speaker 1: round two to take On. Wisconsin so who you got round?
Speaker 1: Two B Yu. Wisconsin i'm going with The. Badgers, yeah
Speaker 1: just the advantage.
Speaker 2: There you, Know wisconsin has a top flight defense and
Speaker 2: bou does.
Speaker 1: Not Saint mary's seventh Seed, alabama two, Seed Ken who you?
Speaker 1: Got round?
Speaker 2: TWO a fascinating, matchup you, know two just polar. Opposite
Speaker 2: Saint mary's loves to slow it, down prevent three point,
Speaker 2: shots defense, Heavy bama's speeding it up offense, heavy loves
Speaker 2: to take. Threes it's gonna be a fascinating. Matchup BUT
Speaker 2: i do Think bama will?
Speaker 1: Prevail alabama advances. On all, right back up To Duke
Speaker 1: arizona in the that's The sweet sixteen Matchup Duke Arizona sweet.
Speaker 1: Sixteen who we Got Duke arizona and we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Again just assume Assume Cooper flag is, back and if he,
Speaker 2: Is duke should have no problem.
Speaker 1: Here Wisconsin Alabama sweet. Sixteen where are we? Going? Alabama
Speaker 1: back to The elite? Eight elite? Eight and now for
Speaker 1: the final four team out of The, east the winner
Speaker 1: Of Duke alabama is that's going to be The Duke Blue.
Speaker 1: Devils all, right we'll Go. Duke so we Have duke
Speaker 1: out of The. East we Have Michigan state out of The.
Speaker 1: South we'll move over now to The west. Region and
Speaker 1: AS i referenced in our previous, segment sometimes there's a
Speaker 1: year where every TIME i watch a, Team i'm like
Speaker 1: they might be the best team in basketball in college,
Speaker 1: basketball that team for me Is. Florida this, year we'll
Speaker 1: start With. Florida Norfolk, State, yeah of course that will Be. Florida,
Speaker 1: okay let's just move right over to the back to
Speaker 1: back national champs and a very grumpy coach on the
Speaker 1: sidelines and One Dan. Hurley But yukon Gets. Oklahoma where
Speaker 1: we're going? Here? Yeah, no, no whate's talking About yukon this?
Speaker 1: Year what's the?
Speaker 2: Deal they won back of back back back. Titles can
Speaker 2: we give him a little little? RESPECT i, mean, LOOK
Speaker 2: i mean. Here you, KNOW i grew up forty miles
Speaker 2: away from. Campus i'm A hurley. GUY i Want yukon to.
Speaker 2: Win can they get Past? Oklahoma they can get Past. Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: yeah it has been a down year for The. Huskies
Speaker 2: Or Danny hurley missed on some transfers and the Freshman
Speaker 2: leam McNeely is kind of the leader of the team
Speaker 2: and he's been pretty.
Speaker 1: Inefficient but they do have enough to get By Oklab
Speaker 1: memphis five, Seed Colorado state twelve. Seed will The Mountain
Speaker 1: West conference hate ken manifest itself in this? Matchup or
Speaker 1: you Think Colorado state can get it?
Speaker 2: Done we will go With Colorado. State they're ACTUALLY i
Speaker 2: think a slight favorite even In. Vegas it's not even
Speaker 2: like necessarily going on a limb, here but they have
Speaker 2: been playing so well down the.
Speaker 1: Stretch Nee clifford player to, remember.
Speaker 2: Has not appeared on any All american teams have been
Speaker 2: released the last couple of, days presumably because people make
Speaker 2: up their mind about like two months before the. Deadline,
Speaker 2: yeah but he has been awesome down the stretch and
Speaker 2: certainly one of the ten best players in the.
Speaker 1: Country So Dan marley once upon a time was the
Speaker 1: head coach At Grand, Canyon, right that's. Correct, now for some,
Speaker 1: REASON i didn't follow the news cycle AND i just
Speaker 1: thought he was the head coach until like a few months.
Speaker 1: Ago he very much is. Not But Grand canyon thirteen,
Speaker 1: Seed maryland as a four. Seed who we got?
Speaker 2: Here we Have Bryce drew as the head, Coach Ran
Speaker 2: cannon don't Forget valpo ninety eight tournament.
Speaker 1: Hero but it will Be.
Speaker 2: Maryland maryland one of those underseeded teams as a four.
Speaker 2: Seed really tempting to pick them to come out of this.
Speaker 2: REGION i don't want to spoil, it but they do
Speaker 2: win this. Game Is Kendrick lamar the?
Speaker 1: Tournament? No But drake is see WHAT i did their
Speaker 1: kids pop culture. Reference i'll let's move over To Missouri
Speaker 1: drake six to eleven. Seed ray plays at the slowest
Speaker 1: base in the.
Speaker 2: Country so this is not a game THAT i would
Speaker 2: recommend tuning in for unless you have money on it or,
Speaker 2: something BUT i will Squeak missouri By. Drake but this
Speaker 2: is going to be a real grind and a close.
Speaker 1: One another big twelve, Team Texas TECH Unc wilmington is
Speaker 1: the fourteen. Seed three to Fourteen, Ken what's what happens? Here?
Speaker 2: Yeah Texas tech has been outstanding all, year number seven
Speaker 2: in my ratings and never seems to get the. Respect
Speaker 2: they do have some injury, issues a little banged up
Speaker 2: at a couple of starting, positions but they will get
Speaker 2: by you and see on.
Speaker 1: LinkedIn number Seven, kansas number, Ten, Arkansas Little bill, Self
Speaker 1: John calipari action round. One, wow what have we got?
Speaker 2: Here? Well this is not A, yeah this is not
Speaker 2: like when was it two thousand and eight two eight title?
Speaker 1: Game Memphis? Kansas? Right so, yeah not quite on that.
Speaker 2: Level we will, Again we'll go With, kansas but these
Speaker 2: this is a game that looks like it'd be looks
Speaker 2: like it'd be a great one to, watch but it's
Speaker 2: just really much weaker versions than these coaches are used to.
Speaker 1: Coaching Rick patino has taken The johnnies back to. PROMINENCE
Speaker 1: i was once upon a time A Saint john's fan
Speaker 1: back in the Old Big East days With Chris mollen and.
Speaker 1: Such omaha the fifteen seed didn't do, it didn't mean
Speaker 1: to do A Peyton manning impersonation. There But Saint john's
Speaker 1: Two omaha. Fifteen what happens?
Speaker 2: Here Saint john's has the best defense in the. Country
Speaker 2: they've lost their four games by a combined seven. Points
Speaker 2: nobody in college basketball has lost their games by fewer. Points,
Speaker 2: Now Saint john's didn't play a super difficult non conference,
Speaker 2: schedule but, nonetheless this team's legit and they.
Speaker 1: Will they will Beat omaha round of thirty two out
Speaker 1: of The. West according to the model that we have
Speaker 1: in front of, Us Florida yukon round.
Speaker 2: Two what happens? Here florida will put an end to
Speaker 2: the dream For Dan.
Speaker 1: Hurley Can Colorado state keep The cinderella run going against
Speaker 1: the number four Seed Maryland. TURPINS i think in a
Speaker 1: different circumstance they.
Speaker 2: Could But maryland is just a really solid team and
Speaker 2: definitely plays better than that four, seed so they'll get by.
Speaker 1: Him missouri sixth, Seed Texas tech three seed who we got?
Speaker 1: Here we will go with The Red, Raiders, Kansas Saint
Speaker 1: John's bill, Self Rick, patino another heavyweight. Matchup it'll Be
Speaker 1: Saint john's, here, Okay Florida maryland for the right to
Speaker 1: go to The elite. Eight we'll Put florida.
Speaker 2: In The ELITE. A but do not if you want
Speaker 2: to Pig. Maryland there not a bad.
Speaker 1: Idea Texas Tech Saint john's at the bottom of the.
Speaker 2: Practice we'll go With Texas tech to upset the offensive
Speaker 2: chie Red storm.
Speaker 1: Okay and going to the final four out of The west,
Speaker 1: Region Florida Texas. Tech have we got it will Be Texas. Tech,
Speaker 1: wow upset. Special there we. GO i was waiting for.
Speaker 1: One there we. Go so so far we Have Michigan
Speaker 1: state out of The, south we Have duke out of The,
Speaker 1: east and we Have Texas tech now out of The.
Speaker 1: West our final bracket portion of the racket will be The.
Speaker 1: Midwest any intrigue with The Houston cougars round one or
Speaker 1: no Intrigue Gonzaga georgia round. One gonzaga will pull that,
Speaker 1: out all? Right all? Right we do not have a
Speaker 1: five to twelve upset so? Far do we have?
Speaker 2: One With clemson and. McNeice we actually do Spence Colorado
Speaker 2: state Over. MEMPHIS i bet. Yeah we did not have
Speaker 2: it With clemson over. McNeese Will wade is already thinking
Speaker 2: about his next, job which appears to BE Nc, State
Speaker 2: So clemson will capitalize in that distraction and win that.
Speaker 1: Game perdue four seed High. Points, yeah as your thirteen
Speaker 1: see do we? Got we will go with High. Point
Speaker 1: they are the out.
Speaker 2: Number they are the top team in terms of their
Speaker 2: dependance on offense in this. Tournament And i'm a sucker for.
Speaker 2: Offense they have the twenty fifth best offense in the.
Speaker 2: Country don't ask me what their defense is. Ranked it's very,
Speaker 2: bad but their offense is really.
Speaker 1: Good. Okay illinois sixth seed will await the winner of
Speaker 1: Tonight's Texas xavier.
Speaker 2: Matchup does it? MATTER i don't think. SO i, mean,
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't think. So i'll go To.
Speaker 1: Illinois kentucky shout Out Mark, pope FORMER byu. Coach they
Speaker 1: take On troy as a fourteen. Seed what goes down? Here?
Speaker 2: YEAH i Think Mark pope has gotten more out Of
Speaker 2: kentucky than you could have. Expected they, are Like Texas,
Speaker 2: tech a little banged up heading into the tournament, here
Speaker 2: but they'll obviously they'll get By.
Speaker 1: TROY Ucla Utah state local. GAME ucla a five point
Speaker 1: five point. Favorite do The bruins get.
Speaker 2: By THE AGGI i, Mean i'd love to see The
Speaker 2: aggies do, it but it's hard for me to envision
Speaker 2: them getting by THIS ucla.
Speaker 1: Team two Fifteen Tennessee, Wafford tennessee get this done pretty? Easily, Yes,
Speaker 1: okay all, right let's head back up Now round. Two Houston.
Speaker 1: Gonzaga who you got?
Speaker 2: Here should be a great one in the second. Round
Speaker 2: houston is just it's been so good this. Year they've
Speaker 2: lost four Games spence and only one of those was in,
Speaker 2: regulation so they've only been hot scored in regulation one
Speaker 2: time all.
Speaker 1: Year they've just been so. Good so, YEAH i think
Speaker 1: we'll get back In zaiga five thirteen high point gets By.
Speaker 1: Purdue do they get By? Clemson they do? Not Brad.
Speaker 2: Brown now back to The sweet. Sixteen fair Enough Illinois.
Speaker 2: Kentucky Does Mark pope keep it? GOING i think so
Speaker 2: close call, here but, YEAH i do believe In Mark.
Speaker 1: POPE ucla seventh seed after Beating Utah, state they'll take
Speaker 1: On tennessee as a. Two what happens, Here, Well we're
Speaker 1: gonna Go.
Speaker 2: Tennessee despite the long term struggles Of Rick, barnes in
Speaker 2: THE Ncaa. Tournament tennessee one of the best defensive teams out,
Speaker 2: there and they'll have enough to get BY.
Speaker 1: Ucla Houston clemson won. Five who advances to The elite?
Speaker 2: Eight we are a believer In Covien samson And Houston
Speaker 2: Kentucky tennessee three to. Two that should be a good.
Speaker 2: One who you got should be a good one if it.
Speaker 2: Occurs kentucky has Beating tennessee twice this. Year but we
Speaker 2: Think tennessee gets revenged in this situation and gets to
Speaker 2: the elite.
Speaker 1: Date, okay now for the right to go to the final,
Speaker 1: four it'll Be Houston. Tennessee what goes down, HERE i
Speaker 1: will go with The Houston. Cougars, Okay so final four
Speaker 1: matchup number, one let's start on THE i Guess i'll
Speaker 1: just say the left side of the, Bracket Michigan State
Speaker 1: Texas tech for the right to play for The National
Speaker 1: championship In San. Antonio what do we?
Speaker 2: Got we are going to go WITH. J. T toppin
Speaker 2: and The Texas Tech red Ra ooh, yeah.
Speaker 1: OKAY A Ken palm Surprise Texas tech in The National
Speaker 1: championship game and they will play the winner Of duke And.
Speaker 1: Houston who you?
Speaker 2: Got that's kind of that would end up being the
Speaker 2: de facto national title.
Speaker 1: GAME i think for. SURE i just Think duke is
Speaker 1: a team of. Destiny Year duke advances to take On
Speaker 1: Texas tech your national championship. Game who Is ken your national?
Speaker 2: Champ duke will win seventy eight sixty Eight cooper, flag
Speaker 2: twenty two, points nine, boards eight, assists and two.
Speaker 1: Steals, wow did you say seventy eight to sixty? Eight?
Speaker 1: Yes all, Right i'm writing this down right. Now seventy
Speaker 1: eight to sixty Eight duke is your national champs beating
Speaker 1: The Texas Tech Red. Raiders, correct that's. Correct there you
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Speaker 2: Exactly that's the whole, point all, right my, Friend good
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