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back to the show returning champion dar Anka.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Darryl Alex, I'm doing great. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, my friend. I think you still have the record.

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I think you are now with this effort, and you

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have the record of the most interviews on Next Level Soul.

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I think from back in the day when you were

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so kind to a young and fledgling podcast back in

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the day, because you were one of like five people

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and you in the spiritual space.

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Speaker 2: Now you are the master.

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Speaker 1: Well I don't know about that, but I appreciate you,

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my friend. Thank you so much for coming. Well, listen, man,

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a lot of stuff. I've been wanting to get you

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back on the show for a little bit because there's

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just so much stuff happening in the world. And first,

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the first question I have to because now you and

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I are both movie geeks and come from the movie world,

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so I have to ask you, did you see Disclosure Day.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it twice.

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Speaker 1: It's I felt that it was remarkable and it was

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Spielberg at his kind.

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Speaker 2: I think so, Yes, I think so. I think it's

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a very important film. The thing I find interesting about

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it is how divisive it is. There are people that

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love it and people that hate it. And my feeling

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in talking to some of the people that didn't like it,

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and not only didn't like it, hated it, was what

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are they seeing that I didn't see, or vice versa,

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what am I seeing that they didn't see. My general

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consensus is that I think most people that didn't like

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it don't understand that Disclosure is actually a real thing

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that's happening, and they think it was just this sci

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fi film that to them just kind of didn't make

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any sense. So I think they missed the important point

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of what Spielberg was doing was Look, I'm just trying

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to bring your attention to the fact and in a

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dramatized way that this is actually going on in our

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society and is about to crack, is about to happen

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some way, maybe not the way the film depicted, but

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this is about to happen, so get ready. And there

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were several things. I was very surprised at how many

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things he actually or he and the writer actually got

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right in the film that are accurate to what you're

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going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can you talk a little bit about that as well? Yeah,

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did it get accurately?

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Speaker 2: I mean just the idea that, first of all, of course,

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that there has been a cover up, the inference to

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certain events that happened, they got very accurate. The idea

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of the screen memories of the aliens appearing to be

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either animals or something else, they got accurate. There are

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several things in there, and it's interesting because you know,

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obviously anyone listening to this spoiler alert, there are a

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lot of spoiler alerts if we're going to talk about

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the movie, so you know, you don't want to hear that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just fast forward a little bit. Yeah, fast forward

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a little bit, or click on a little like on

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the link in the description. Now move it along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing that was interesting to me that

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I did not catch the first time I saw the

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movie because it's sort of somewhat subtle, but I got

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it the second time is and I'll ask you this question,

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who was actually responsible for the release of the information

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in the movie. Who caused disclosure to happen? You mean

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who was finding who was behind the actual disclosure that

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happened in the movie? Who caused it? Who said it

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in motion and caused it to happen?

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Speaker 1: Who said it in Well, I the thing that keeps

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popping into my head is the president who walked in

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like drunk, showing at the Jackie Gleeson, which I'm sure

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Nixon did, and that.

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Speaker 2: Was accurate too, That is a story. He did show

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Jackie Gleeson that stuff. But but I mean at the

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end of the movie, when when they actually expose all

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the information, Sure, who's the one that actually caused that

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Speaker 1: There's so much stuff going on, and I saw it

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a few weeks ago, so I can't remember who was it.

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Speaker 2: The alien themselves, the aliens, You're right, charge of disclosure,

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not a US. The aliens are in charge. The ETS

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are in charge. And that's also accurate. Interesting in my

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opinion in terms of what I understand, because it's gone

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from US being sort of in charge by keeping the

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information secret to the ETS being in charge in terms

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of the timing now of the release of this information,

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which is why we're starting to see a lot of

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the disclosure happening is because they know it's inevitable because

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now it's on the ETS agenda as to when it

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needs to happen, and they have to scramble and get

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this stuff out there so that they can position themselves

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to not look so bad. So they need to release

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this information because they know there's very little time lift

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in which they have to hide it.

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Speaker 1: So is that why they've been doing all of these

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you know, the data dumps, if you will, into the public.

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Speaker 2: Data dumps, government congressional hearings with whistleblowers and stuff like that.

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All of this is coming out and the data dumps,

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you know that they're releasing you know, this have a

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lot more to release. They're doing it as you know,

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slowly as they could possibly do it, but they're not

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in charge anymore, and they know there's a deadline here.

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And I think that is one of the things that

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the film actually also got very accurate, is we're not

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the ones in charge anymore about when this information ultimately

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comes out.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I found fascinating about Disclosure Day as

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well is Spielberg and many of his interviews is like,

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this is not a sci fi film. He literally says that, right,

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you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, it's interesting, you know, he framed it as a

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Chase movie in a sense, but you know, it's still

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well done. And see, that's what's really interesting to me

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is to watch how people that you know didn't like that,

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really vehemently didn't like it. And I think they were

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going in expecting either you know, the touchy feely Spielberg

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of E. T. The Extraterrestrial or the mystery Spielberg of

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Close Encounters. This is not those movies. This is folks,

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this is what's happening. Get on board. So he did

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it as a Chase movie, but I think he was

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basically framing it as you need to understand that this

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is actually happening in our society and something is going

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to change.

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Speaker 1: What I really and I think you will appreciate this

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one of the things. I saw it so clearly, I

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was like, Oh, I can't believe he's he's in the

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know in the sense that he he introduces or he

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he spotlights channeling in the movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, with Emily Blunt, you know, And even though

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again it's not exactly how it went down. He also

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references the idea of the CIA mind control experiments and

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things like that with what you know Colin Firth is doing. Yeah,

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he just there's just a lot of little breadcrumbs in

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there and a little hints in there that if you're

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familiar with the information to some degree, you start, oh,

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he got that, and yes he's referring to that, and

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he's referring to this. So there's a lot of little

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things in there him that I think that people that

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are not familiar with what's going on in UFO law

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and disclosure law, I think it just kind of went

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over their heads and they feel like it just didn't

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make sense to them.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to age. Well. I think that's

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a film.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think so people are going to

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look back at it and go, oh, he got a

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lot of this stuff right, And he was trying to

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tell us something, you know. That's that's what the movie is.

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He's trying to tell us something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And anytime they ask him, he's like, have you

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ever seen anything? He's like, no, no one's ever shown

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me anything. No, they don't appear to me. Why wouldn't

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they appear to me. I've been their biggest pr person.

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He said that it's like it's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's also some indications, however, that he has

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had discussions with people and been read into some things.

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Maybe not everything, but people have you know, in the

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military or in the government and have had you know,

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some conversations with him. So you know, he's probably included

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that in what's in the film as well. But now,

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I thought he did a great job with it. I

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enjoyed the film just generally as a movie. So you know,

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the the reactions that I'm seeing of people who just

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like really vehemently hated it, I just think there's something

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going on there that's like a real divide, either fear

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based unconsciously or they just simply aren't familiar enough with

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the information to have recognized that he's trying to tell

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you something that you're just thinking is fictional, you know,

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and it's not.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you somebody asks you, Daryl, before

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we kind of I want to really dive into because

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you and I have never had the conversation about disclosure,

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and now it's it's so far, it's so much more

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in the public eye. Will before we get into that,

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I just want to ask you a simple question, after

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all these years that you've been on this planet. What's

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still fast ate you about humanity?

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Speaker 2: Well, fascinates I mean, on one hand, you know, there

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is the limitless creativity that humans are capable of when

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they actually open themselves up to who they are and

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and you know their purpose in life. And on the

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other hand, there's that amazing capacity to be in denial

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about what's right in front of their faith. You know,

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I just don't want to say I'm not going to

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look at that. I don't no, no, no, no no, because

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you know, there they haven't faced certain things within themselves

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that that admission of those other things happening would force

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them to look at and they're just not willing to

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do that. But you know, but this is what's happening

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on the planet now. It's like we're at the end

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of a cycle of isolation and we're coming into a

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cycle of connection. And I think that's why originally, you know,

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in my channeling, when Bishar talks about twenty twenty six

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being the year of disclosure, he's not just referring to

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UFO information, He's saying, all your secrets have to start

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coming out. And that's kind of what we're seeing right

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Exposure of this, and these files and all these hidden

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secrets that people have been harboring for so long are

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now being put out into the public so that we

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can see what's been going on and finally say, is

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this how we want to continue or do we want

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to change and do something different? So this is the

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year of disclosure in all sense, on all different kinds

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of levels. That's why we're seeing so much chaos because

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everything's coming out in the open, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have leaders around the world that are

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, in a sense, you know, looking at

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it on the positive side, they are souls that have

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chosen to be agents of disruption so that we can

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in fact see how much negative stuff we have been allowing.

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in your face so blatantly that you can't miss it,

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and that you're going to finally decide enough is enough

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and you're going to finally do something about it. In

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that sense, I think they're serving a positive purpose, even

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though consciously they may not understand what they're doing, but

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I think they're going to trigger a very big change

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in the near future just because people are going, oh,

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my God, look at all this stuff that's going on,

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and this is not working for us. We have to

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Speaker 1: Is it similar? Is an analogy? Is it similar nature?

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Where in an ecosystem, let's say a closed ecosystem, Well,

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let's say the Everglades. The apex predator in the Everglades

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is was the alligator before the anacondas went in and

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started messing up the thing. But alligators, But that's a

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perfect example. The alligator. He kills, he eats, he does everything,

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that's horrible. But without him right, things would go out

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of goog gota. So even the negative aspects of nature

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have a balancing part of it.

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Speaker 2: It's all one system. See, that's the thing we humanity

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tends to think in compartmentalized ways, like I'm going to

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do something over here and it's not going to have

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any effect over there, And that's just ridiculous. It's one system.

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You can't tip the scale in one part without tipping

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the scales in the whole thing. I just saw a

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video the other day. They were talking about how, you know,

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somewhere in the Middle Ages they decided for some reason

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on religious on a religious basis, that cats were demonic,

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and they started hunting all these cats and killing them,

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and then of course the rap population exploded because there

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was no cats to kill them, and the rats brought

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the fleas that brought the Black plague. So humanity basically

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almost erased itself in Europe because of this religious conviction

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that somehow cats were demons and we have to get

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rid of them. You do one thing to one part

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of it and the whole thing just falls apart. It's

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amazing we haven't learned that lesson yet.

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and now back to the show. And isn't that from

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my understanding from the research I've done, that cats in

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the Middle Ages, you know, witches, that whole thing with

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the witches, people thought women who lived by themselves with

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a cat, a black, a familiar cat. Yes, exactly, they

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were demonic or they were evil or this is not

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because everybody else around them was dying except then, but

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they had the cat that was killing the rats, so

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the rats wouldn't get into their house exact, and they wouldn't,

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but they couldn't understand that. Isn't that funny.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and also I mean probably on an unconscious level,

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a lot of humans could pick up on the fact

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that cats can see spirits, they can see into other

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realities and things like that, and so again you know

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they're going, oh, that's you know, that's a demonic trait

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without even consciously realizing what they were picking up on.

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is always at first it's the negative thing, it's the

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demonic thing, instead of why couldn't that be an angelic power?

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are calling out all these demonic things are the ones,

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in a sense who are steeped in the demonic fear.

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It's like they're the ones that are perpetuating the idea

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of the negative reality and the demonic thing that the

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thing they're ascribing to d demons is what their first

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reaction is. Instead of saying, why couldn't this be something

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from God? Why couldn't it be a blessing? You know,

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they always go in the negative thing because they're steeped

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in fear, which I would think would be more if

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you know, demons did exist, would be more the hallmark

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of what the demons would be like, would be inducing

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fear in people. So, you know, it's an ironic and

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paradoxical reaction that they don't seem to be capable of

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seeing within themselves when they react that way. And it's

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still going on now, we're still talking about the idea.

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Some people in religious circles are saying, oh, the UFOs

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and the aliens are demons, you know, and so it's like, again,

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why is that the first reaction. Why couldn't they be

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angelic being something else that just to me illustrates and

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underlines underscores their own fear based beliefs and has nothing

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to do with them. And to some degree, I find

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calling an an et a demon to be somewhat racist.

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the past when they called people of color black devils.

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I mean, it's just this whole fear based thing of

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calling out something that you're not familiar with and putting

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it in a category that you know can make you

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not have to face them or persecute them because you

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just don't want to deal with it. So yeah, to me,

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at this point in modern history, calling an et or

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you know, something from a UFO demonic force is an

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extremely racist reaction.

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Speaker 1: Then you're establishing that demons are off planet as well, ye,

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running around.

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Speaker 2: In space and spaceship exactly. It's just ridiculous to me.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. There's something going on

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right now in the world that is, you know, there's

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so much chaos and all this negativity, but there's something

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very positive. There's one thing going on that I've seen

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that I've truly never seen happen before, and it's wrapped

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around the World Cup. Now, we've had World Cups for

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I don't know how many hundreds of years, but you know,

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decades now, and I'm familiar with it. I wasn't a fan,

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I mean, never been a soccer fan per se. I'm

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a familiar with it. Yeah, I've become much more of

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a soccer fan in this World Cup for whatever reason,

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because I'm watching it more and all that stuff. But

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what I'm finding fascinating is, maybe because it's been thirty

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two years since it's been in the US, the reaction

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of foreign people coming from foreign lands to the US,

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the love and the positivity about what we as a

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culture is the US have to offer them and the

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truth behind who we are as a people, not our government,

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not our companies, not our but our people. And then

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you can turn the coin on that too. Is if

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I'm sure you've you've traveled the world. A lot of

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this stuff that they say about other countries to us

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is like I was afraid to leave the country for

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a long time when I was a young man because

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of like, oh god, you can't go down there. Oh

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my god, you can't go over there. There's people dying,

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there's people killing. And then I found out the truth

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when I went over to Europe and I went down

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to Mexico and I went down to different countries around

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like this is beautiful people. So what is your take

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on that? What is it significant significance of that spiritually

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and about our awakening in general right now because it

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is a movement, a global thingling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, it's about when you finally connect and you

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finally talk with one another, you find you have more

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in common than you have differences. And I think that's

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again it's about it's part of the connection and globalization

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to become one people, you know, to understand. Yeah, sure,

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we want to preserve different interesting things in our cultures

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and stuff like that, but it's not about homogenizing us.

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It's about having our differences be compatible and validate the

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differences so that we have a richer culture overall. As

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a planet. We have to start thinking of ourselves as

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a planetary people, because again, that's going to be one

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of the things that happens when we have open contact

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is because that's how the ets look at us. You know.

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lately in the Channelings is reinforcing the whole idea that

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Earth is a school, right, it's a university, But he's

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also using that word in a different way. He's saying

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Earth is a universe city. It's one city in the universe,

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and it's a school. It's a university campus. So everyone

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on Earth belongs on the Earth campus. We share a university,

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and we're taking different classes and studying different courses. He's

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trying to get us to really look at the Earth

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as one city and one campus and one school that

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we're attending with all of these different kinds of lessons

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and classes and experiences we can have and share with

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one another to enrich our lives and learn our lessons

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and grow and change. But it's about connecting like they

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do on a university campus where you have different students

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exchanging ideas. Oh, I learned this in this class, and

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I learned this in this class, and oh, what kind

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of class do you want to take? Oh, I want

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to study this, I want to study that. So when

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we start looking at the Earth that way literally as

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a universe city, as a campus, as a school, then

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we can start appreciating all the differences as just the

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different classes that we're all taking in the different lessons

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that we're all learning. But we're all part of the

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same university, the same campus, you know, And that's how

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the etc. Is.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you what Darryl with with the

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with the ets or otherworldly beings if you will, that

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are eventually going to be coming down here and really

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not coming down, but that are already here, but they're

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gonna make themselves out. Yeah, they make themselves known. How

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does I mean from the movies that we've seen, obviously,

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aliens have not got a pretty bad rap for the

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most part on most of those sci fi films. But

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I remember two movies off the top of my head,

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and I'm curious on how like, technically, how is this

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going to go down, Like, how is how is this

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going to incorporate? How are they going to incorporate into us?

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And things. So two movies that I can remember, and

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you've probably seen them, Alien Nation back in the nineties.

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That one was with James con was really interesting and

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in District and exactly in District nine. Yeah, So that's

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like incorporating aliens into America or in America, but humanity's

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daily life, and it's just like another thing. How is

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this really going to go down? From their point because

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there's so much fear. There's so much fear.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think what's an interesting sign

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is that the last three major alien contact movies have

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all now been positive. You've got Arrival, which was positive. Yes,

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you have Project Hail Mary, which was positive.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful movie.

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Speaker 2: And now you have Disclosure Day, which ultimately is also

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a positive alien contact movie. And so I think I'm

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seeing that trend going in that direction. But in terms

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of the technical approach to disclosure and to open contact,

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I do think that it's going to happen in phases

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to allow us to absorb and assimilate. You know, the

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ets understand what we are and they understand how we react,

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and they understand what our culture is about. They've been

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observing us for a long time. They get it. They're

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not going to do anything that is really totally disruptive.

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They're going to give us an option to interact with them,

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but they're not going to force us into anything because

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they understand it's going to take us a while to

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get used to the idea that we're not alone in

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the universe. So this is one of the reasons why

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I think disclosure and open contact is happening sooner than later,

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because they know, according to the cycles and the timing,

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that it's going to probably take us at least a

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decade or two to get used to the idea of

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the fact that we now have the option to interact

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with extraterrestrials and receive whatever benefits they're capable of giving

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to our society and absorbing all of that information. Because

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different people, different cultures, different countries are going to react

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very differently to open contact. Some will be very willing

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to say yes, welcome on board, and others will probably

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be saying no, we're going to close our borders and

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we're going to deny the fact that the aliens are here.

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Because we want to retain some kind of authoritarian power

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and control over our population. And I think it's going

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to take a couple of decades for all of that

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to balance out, primarily because you've got a new generation

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coming up. Once open contact occurs, then that new generation

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who will be taking over the world in another two

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decades will always have been exposed to the existence of

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extraterrestrials and it won't be weird to them, so they'll

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be more open as the old generation dies out. So

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I think it'll take a couple of decades, but I

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do think the aets will present themselves in phases, so

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they might like allow their ships to be seen more closely,

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to be on you know, we're already seeing a little

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bit like, oh, here's the weather report on the news,

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and now here's the UFO report. Today. We had this

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sighting and we had that sighting. You know, let's discuss that.

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So I think that's going to become more normal. I

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think we're going to have real good shots of UFOs

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on the news that people can get you. Yeah, here

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it is. Here's applying saftware. It appeared over Buenos Aires today,

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And here's fifty videos of that people took of this

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ship and it's crystal clear, So you know what is

476
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,160
that people? You know, we won't be able to deny

477
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,680
it anymore in that sense, and then the introduction will

478
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,720
probably take place in some sort of you know, time release,

479
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:29,079
press conference or State of the Union or something along

480
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:31,839
that line. But I think what is going to happen

481
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,759
is the ETS are going to deal with or help

482
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:41,720
us deal with, different aspects of our society in phases.

483
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,200
So in other words, what's what's going to happen when

484
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,480
they show up with their knowledge and their experience and say,

485
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,720
what's going to happen with our economy? Okay, let's deal

486
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:56,559
with that. What are all the changes that might need

487
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,880
to happen with our economy once ETS are here? Now

488
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,680
we've got that under our belt. Okay, so maybe that

489
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,359
would take a year to figure out. Now, the e

490
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,000
teas are going to come in and say, okay, well,

491
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,160
what's going to happen now with your politics? And now

492
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,759
we have to absorb all those changes, and now what's

493
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:16,599
going to happen with this? And now what's going to

494
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,279
happen with this technology? And now what's going to happen

495
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,960
with this? So I think they're going to roll it

496
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,480
out in phases so that we have time to get

497
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:27,359
used to the idea of what it is they're capable

498
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,799
of showing us that in many cases is going to

499
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,640
change the way we look at things because they have

500
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:39,960
the ability to demonstrate and prove certain things that we've

501
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,839
been only speculating about in our society for a long

502
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,440
time because we have no real access to our history

503
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:51,079
and certain other kinds of things, but they may have

504
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,680
recordings of those things because they've been observing our planet

505
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,039
for so long. It's like, you want to know if

506
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:01,319
Atlantis existed, here's a holographic recording of it. You want

507
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:04,079
to see what the dinosaurs really look like, Here's a

508
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:08,359
holographic recording of it. And we're going, oh, wow, okay,

509
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:13,599
all those questions can be answered because they've been around

510
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,079
long enough to have observed us long enough to actually

511
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:19,400
have proof of what those things really were.

512
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:24,279
Speaker 1: And then also just on a processing standpoint, if someone said, hey,

513
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:25,759
do you want to see what the dinosaurs look like?

514
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:31,559
And someone shows you a holographic file a lah Clark

515
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:39,240
Kent or the Fortress of Solitude, or they show you Atlantis,

516
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,519
then you to start to wrap your the process that

517
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,720
because and they're like, oh, by the way, you have

518
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:49,000
you've been living in a cycle of destruction and rebirth

519
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,960
for the last two hundred and fifty thousand years. So

520
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,839
every ten thousand years or so, you reset yourselves, or

521
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,200
every twenty four if you do the Yuga cycles, every

522
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,440
twenty four yeah, twenty four thousand years, you reset yourself.

523
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,119
Here's a history of all of that. Oh, Dannaki, here's

524
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,440
what they were doing.

525
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:09,839
Speaker 2: Right, Kashia said, this is one of the things they're

526
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:12,519
going to give us as a gift in open contact

527
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:16,160
is our complete history. Here's a recording of your complete history.

528
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:18,759
Have fun, take a look.

529
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

530
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:30,640
and now back to the show. That but that that

531
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,960
will end all religion, that will be up and up

532
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,119
and everything that we.

533
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:39,559
Speaker 2: Know, Yes and yes, but that doesn't mean that it

534
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,440
won't reinforce other aspects like spirituality and things like that.

535
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,079
So it's okay that certain things. I mean. That was

536
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:52,440
another thing that I really appreciated in Disclosure Day was

537
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,839
the fact of what the nun said to the novitiate.

538
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Oh god, it was beautiful.

539
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: You know, It's like, you know, aren't we the supreme

540
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,079
creation it on Earth? That doesn't need There aren't other beings,

541
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,759
you know, so however they need to relate to it.

542
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,039
I don't think it's actually going to Yes, religion may

543
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,240
go away in the form that it is in now

544
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:21,160
in certain ways because we won't necessarily need the trappings

545
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,279
of it, but the core of it will never go away,

546
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,960
because the core of it is our spiritual connection to

547
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,720
the divine and that I think the ETS will actually

548
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,240
be capable of strengthening, and I think it will make

549
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:39,039
Earth a more overall, a more spiritual place and a

550
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:42,960
more connected place, because they also may have the technology

551
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:47,240
to actually be able to talk to spirits. And if

552
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,240
we can actually talk to people that were alive and

553
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:53,880
are now dead and actually go, hey, you know we're

554
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,799
still around, we're just in a different dimension, Well what

555
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,440
is that going to do? I mean, it's like, well,

556
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,480
now I can talk to Uncle Fred who's been dead

557
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,920
for ten years. Here he is, you know, and we

558
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,799
can have a conversation because the ETS brought us technology

559
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:11,519
that will allow us to do that. Well, now I

560
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:14,200
have a million questions for Uncle Fred. What's the afterlife

561
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,799
really like? And all that kind of stuff. Well, here

562
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:18,720
it is. This is the way it works. This is

563
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,759
what it's all about. Now we don't need a middleman.

564
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:27,039
We can talk to Uncle Fred the dead guy ourselves.

565
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,519
Speaker 1: You know, can so with all of this kind of

566
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:33,319
you know, upheaval if you will. I mean, this is

567
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,079
definitely stirring the pot all everything you just said. I

568
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,200
feel I find it wonderful. I think it's going to

569
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,200
be interesting. If this kind of technology, it'd be the

570
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,640
equivalent of going to the congo and going into a

571
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,039
village and taking an iPhone. I mean literally, that would

572
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,519
be It would look magical to them. This would look

573
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,440
magical to us.

574
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:55,839
Speaker 2: Absolutely. But if these ets are even a thousand years

575
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,359
ahead of us, let alone millions of years ahead of us,

576
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,039
they may have these ns of technologies and these abilities.

577
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:02,279
You know.

578
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well of course, now why would But the biggest

579
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,759
question is why are they doing it? And why are

580
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:12,319
they doing this now? They've been watching us for hundreds

581
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:13,319
of thousands of years.

582
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: Well, like you said, it does go in cycles, and

583
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:22,000
there are indications that they were among us many thousands

584
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,799
of years ago. All of our legends of the gods

585
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:28,000
and all this kind of stuff that we ascribe that

586
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,559
may actually have been representations of extraterrestrials, you know, with.

587
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,119
Speaker 1: Stargate, like Stargate, the movie Stargate.

588
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically that that theory. So if they come at

589
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,559
certain times, which according to them, are the natural cycles

590
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:50,279
of checking in with what's going on here, well we're

591
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:53,440
at that cycle again. That's why we're having disclosure. That's

592
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,680
why we're talking about open contact. It's like they were here.

593
00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:00,599
Let's just say, you know, twelve five hundred years or

594
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,359
more ago when Atlantis was around. Now they're back. Maybe

595
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:06,319
that's the cycle. You know. It's like, well, we're going

596
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:10,159
to come around and check in every ten, twelve, twenty

597
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,920
four thousand years, and that's just what they do to

598
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:17,199
check in on the neighbors, check in on their family,

599
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,039
because in many cases we may actually be genetically related

600
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,199
to them. And it's like, you know, what are the

601
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,559
kids doing. Let's go check on the kids, you know.

602
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:31,519
And I make that analogy in jest, but also in

603
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:35,039
all seriousness, because it's kind of like, you know what, folks,

604
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,559
we're down here, a bunch of kids, and we're having

605
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,079
all these tantrums, and it's kind of time for the

606
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:43,280
adults to step in the room and say cut it out.

607
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,880
You need to grow up. So I think that's one

608
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,000
of the things that we will experience in open contact

609
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:53,320
is the adults are here. Now you've got to pay

610
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,000
attention because you're kind of trashing your room and we

611
00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:59,639
can't allow you to trash this place. This is an

612
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:03,320
import school for souls and we're not going to allow

613
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,000
you to wreck it and ruin it. So you need

614
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,519
to learn some things, and you need to remember them,

615
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:10,800
you know, because you've obviously forgotten.

616
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is is when you said that

617
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,119
there's another movie that's I think very positive in the

618
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:25,920
extraterrestrial space that doesn't get spoken about enough. Abyss, Yes,

619
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,639
And that's literally what they are. They're like, hey, hey, hey, everyone,

620
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:30,840
calm down down.

621
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,039
Speaker 2: You know you're not.

622
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:36,119
Speaker 1: The biggest boy in the block, right, relax kind of thing.

623
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much more that you have access to

624
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:46,639
when you just chill out and open up to what

625
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,000
the universe really has to offer it. Just get over

626
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:54,000
this whole fear based reality that you've created, which is

627
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,960
really just a massive illusion, because there is enough for everyone.

628
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,679
There has to be, it's just the way the universe works.

629
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,280
You just have to learn how to access it, and

630
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,639
you have to be okay with that.

631
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean some of the stuff that the government

632
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,480
has started to release, which I assume is to try

633
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:14,239
to start getting us used to this whole scenario of

634
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,639
what it is. But some of the footage that you're

635
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:20,559
seeing and in congressional hearings, you know, because you know,

636
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:21,960
I'll be honest with you, Darrel. I mean, I haven't

637
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,159
spoken about this very often. Anytime it's ever come up

638
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:26,719
on the show, it's been because you, I trust you

639
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,840
and I love you. So You've mentioned it here and

640
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,079
there within our conversations, but I've never gone deep into

641
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:33,960
it because I grew up on the X files and

642
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,159
tinfoil hats and conspiracy theories and all of that kind

643
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:38,639
of stuff, and it just started to give was like,

644
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,760
you know what, I don't want to go there. But

645
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,719
now it's so in everyone's face, and the governments, governments

646
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,119
around the world are they're officially starting to put out

647
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:50,559
footage and videos and.

648
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:55,079
Speaker 2: Well, again they have to because I think they know

649
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,159
this is inevitable and there's nothing they can do to

650
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,679
stop it, so they have to position themselves to go

651
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,440
along with it in whatever way. Works for them and

652
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,679
makes them look like they're participating in the release of

653
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,920
the information that they've been holding onto forever, you know.

654
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I see, I saw some of these

655
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,320
vehicles flying in the air, and one of them, I

656
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,239
saw it got shot with a missile, like a big

657
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,000
ass missile, and it bounced, It bounced on They've never

658
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,320
no one the guy who shot it, and everyone was like,

659
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,239
we've never seen anything like that. Whatever it touches, it

660
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,039
at least explodes. It didn't explode. It was just kind

661
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:32,400
of like a and it just kind of like parts

662
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,039
of it wobbled.

663
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:35,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, parts of the parts of the missile I think

664
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,639
broke off the UFO wobbled a bit and then and

665
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,159
just course corrected and kept on going. And what was

666
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:44,599
interesting too, is I think we saw in that video

667
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,280
the pieces that came off the missile went with it,

668
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,800
like it was caught in the UFO's field, and the

669
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,760
pieces went with the UFO at least for a little bit.

670
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,639
So yeah, I mean, there's really nothing we can do

671
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,719
to them in that sense. I'm not worried about them

672
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,840
at all. The ets. They're so advanced, you know, and

673
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,360
even to the point of I think they're you know,

674
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:13,039
demonstrating in many ways like that video with the missile

675
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:17,840
bouncing off, there's nothing you can do. The incidents that

676
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:23,199
have happened several times where UFOs have positioned themselves over

677
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,320
nuclear missile silos and completely scramble the launch codes. It's like,

678
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,199
you're not going to have a nuclear war. We're not

679
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,199
going to allow it because that would ruin the campus.

680
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:37,400
You know, that would ruin the school. So they're willing

681
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,679
to allow us to learn our own lessons, but they're

682
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:42,920
not willing to allow us to destroy our ability to

683
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,679
learn any more lessons. The Earth is too valuable for that.

684
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,159
You know.

685
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,559
Speaker 1: Well, it's the equivalent of like, you know, a child,

686
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,320
like we'll let you learn your lesson, but we're not

687
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,000
going to let you walk off the edge of this building.

688
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:58,199
Speaker 3: You know of course that there are, yeah, there are

689
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,079
things we have to do to protect your ability to

690
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:04,800
be here in this school and learn what you came

691
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,400
to learn, and we can't just let you burn the

692
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,480
school down, you know.

693
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:15,559
Speaker 1: So let me ask you with the aliens or the

694
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,039
extraterrestrials who are coming in in the scope of the universe,

695
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,239
are there because everyone we're talking about in this conversation

696
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,840
are very positive, they're very advanced, they're here to help

697
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,199
us all that stuff. But if movies have taught us anything,

698
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,760
there are nefarious energies as well. Is that a thing?

699
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,880
And is there something protecting us all these years?

700
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Well? Yes, I mean it's not that there can't be

701
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,000
relatively negative entities out there, or simply entities who just

702
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:50,239
don't necessarily have our best interests at heart, or don't

703
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,199
even know about us and couldn't care less. But I

704
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,159
think that the ones that have been mostly dealing with

705
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,360
us are looking out for us and are keeping any

706
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,360
negative influences at bay, because again, this is an important

707
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,760
place to them for souls to learn and to grow,

708
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,039
and they don't want anything to happen to it, especially

709
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:15,199
at this very delicate time of transition into a new cycle.

710
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,320
So I think for the most part, they're keeping things

711
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,719
at bay. It doesn't mean that there aren't maybe negative

712
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,400
entities out there. The only other thing about that is,

713
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,679
you know, I don't think there are that many, because

714
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,760
once you allow your technology to take you into outer

715
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,199
space in the way that they do, I mean, what

716
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,400
would you actually need our planet for when you have

717
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,039
unlimited resources out in space that are probably a million

718
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:52,519
times greater than what you could find on Earth. There's

719
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:56,119
so much water, there's so many minerals. I mean, what

720
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:58,880
would you need to come to Earth to get that

721
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,280
you didn't have in another solar system that you easily

722
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,400
have access to.

723
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: So they don't have a dollar fifty hot dogs. I mean,

724
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:11,960
you can't go.

725
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,039
Speaker 2: Exactly as we're conquering a planet for I mean, really,

726
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:18,480
when you stop and think about it, even on that

727
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:22,519
pragmatic level, it just doesn't make sense. It'd be like saying,

728
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,920
I'm going to ignore this pile of gold over here

729
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,440
to get one gold coin over there. It just doesn't

730
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:35,199
make sense pragmatically. On another level, I think that we

731
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,880
don't yet associate, because we have stagnated in this particular

732
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,000
area quite a bit. We don't associate the idea of

733
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,679
technological advancement with spiritual advancement. And I think that the

734
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:57,400
beings that really get out into space have learned what

735
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:01,320
the universe is really all about and are operating from

736
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,519
a completely different point of view about how we're all

737
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:10,679
connected and how things actually work. And I think we're

738
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,719
missing that component. We see it a little bit, and

739
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,400
I forget the name of the effect. But the astronauts

740
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,199
all experience that. Once they're out there and they're looking

741
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,039
back at Earth, they go through this profound change of

742
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:29,719
recognizing how everything is connected and how important it is

743
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,719
to preserve that and for humanity to go in a

744
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,199
more positive direction. So I think that when we really

745
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,480
have enough experience going out into space and looking back

746
00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:46,159
at Earth and understanding the connections that exist between us

747
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:49,360
and other beings out there, I think, and you just

748
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:53,719
lose that idea of oh I need to be some

749
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,880
kind of a weird negative conqueror and take over this

750
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,320
and take over that. You just don't see things that

751
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,320
way anymore. From that perspective, you actually elevate to a

752
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,079
different way of looking at the universe. So I don't

753
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,440
think there are that many negative entities out there in space,

754
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,400
and the ones that may still be that way may

755
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,199
be more confined to their own world and aren't really

756
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,079
able to get here.

757
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: It seems like you can't from my understanding, and please

758
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,159
correct me if I'm wrong, as we have evolved as

759
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:32,840
a species, and I use this example often, Alexander the

760
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,920
Great Genghis Khan. They didn't have machine guns or rocket

761
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,360
launchers or airplanes or anything like that, because they would

762
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,280
have or a bomb like the dub bomb, they would

763
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,599
have destroyed the planet with their mentality and their level

764
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:50,719
of consciousness. So as our consciousness grows, are we are

765
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,880
able to receive information about these higher end technology. So

766
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,119
like from the early nineteen hundred, these last one hundred

767
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:59,719
and twenty five years, we've made more advancements than the

768
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,639
last six thousand years, which is insane. We're used to it,

769
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,119
but as insane. So I'd imagine that's the same way

770
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,519
with aliens and another planet where they're like they if

771
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:16,280
they're able to travel through space, their consciousness has to

772
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,920
be at a level that the universe has given them

773
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,360
that kind of technology exactly.

774
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 2: And that's why I think it's very important for us

775
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,159
to make that connection to them, because we need to

776
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:32,760
start seeing ourselves from their perspective, through their eyes, because

777
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,239
they see us very differently, and we need to understand

778
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,400
how powerful we are and how connected we are. And

779
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,960
once we do that, I think we will have a

780
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:47,320
very big shift in our behavior and based on how

781
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,199
we see ourselves, you know, because a lot of people

782
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,000
on Earth now don't see themselves as being very worthwhile.

783
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,880
There's a lot of issues of deservability and worthiness and

784
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:02,360
you know, stuff like that, and it just prevents us

785
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,320
from really knowing what we are as souls and how

786
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,360
powerful we are and how much we're exactly on a

787
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,480
soul level. Just like the ets, we have to see

788
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,079
ourselves from their perspective in order to really understand how

789
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:19,320
to behave differently.

790
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

791
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:32,039
and now back to the show. What do they understand

792
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:35,760
about consciousness that we're still trying to grasp because obviously

793
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,440
they're more advanced consciously than we are, and that's a

794
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,079
large question.

795
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, well, I think they understand that everything is consciousness.

796
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:50,280
Everything is aware in its own way. Consciousness is everywhere,

797
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,800
it is everything, it's We're made out of whatever you

798
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,840
want to call it. You know, God got us all

799
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,440
that is source existence, what have you. There is only

800
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,000
one thing to make everything from. I mean, I'm starting

801
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:11,760
to see more physical, more manifestations, more awareness of that

802
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:17,280
idea even on a physics, on a physics level, because

803
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,639
one of the things that Bashar has talked about before

804
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,239
many times that now certain quantum physicists are starting to

805
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,280
talk about is this idea that we're calling the single

806
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,840
electron theory, and that idea basically is that there is

807
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,880
only one electron in existence, not one kind of electron,

808
00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:49,119
one electron, and that it has the capability of actually

809
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:54,400
moving at infinite speed and making it seem as if

810
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,239
there are multiple electrons, because we're actually seeing this same

811
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,360
electron appearing next to itself over and over and over again,

812
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,559
because it can move it infinite speed, because if there's

813
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,679
only one electron in existence, then there are no rules

814
00:47:10,039 --> 00:47:12,960
that prevent it from moving as fast as it wants

815
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,039
to move. And if it can move it infinite speed,

816
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:19,679
then every single thing that we're looking at and everything

817
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,519
we are is all made from the same electron, building

818
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:27,639
itself up over and over again, interacting with itself in

819
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:34,480
multi dimensional ways. And so that's kind of a simplistic idea,

820
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,920
but it's an idea of looking at even physical reality

821
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:42,960
as actually being the product of one thing, and that

822
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:47,679
we really are, our bodies really are made out of

823
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,559
the same thing, literally as the computer I'm looking at,

824
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,400
as the desk I'm sitting in front of, as the chair,

825
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,400
as the floor, as the house, as the planet, as

826
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,599
the trees, it's literally the same electron in the ultimate

827
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:09,400
time sharing reality of forming everything in the universe because

828
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,679
it can move at infinite speed and therefore can play

829
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,239
all the roles that needs to play in building up

830
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,639
the atomic structures that we perceive. So you know, even

831
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:22,239
on that level, we're starting to see that everything, maybe

832
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,719
one thing, everything is connected. Consciousness is simply the idea

833
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,639
that it's aware of itself. Richard sort of used the

834
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:36,320
analogy of a cake to sort of describe this. If

835
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,920
you have a slice of cake. If I give you

836
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,519
a slice of cake and you decide you want to

837
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:45,079
analyze what's in it, and you say, well, I have

838
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:48,360
analyzed it, and there is there. I found that there

839
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,880
is egg in there, and milk in there, and flour

840
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,840
in there, and chocolate in there and what have you sugar. Well,

841
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,880
if you have a slice of cake and it has

842
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,639
all those things, then that means the whole cake must

843
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:05,880
also have had all those things. Right. If we're conscious,

844
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,239
the whole must be conscious because we're a slice of

845
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:17,960
the hole. So the ingredients we exhibit, even though it

846
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:25,199
might be exhibited differently in different aspects of existence, we

847
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,760
still contain self aware consciousness that must mean that in

848
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,880
some way, shape or form, So does the whole of existence.

849
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:37,920
It's one of the ingredients of existence is this self awareness.

850
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,119
So we are conscious, it is conscious, Everything is aware,

851
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,960
and everything is made out of whatever that material is,

852
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:50,920
whatever that consciousness is.

853
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,119
Speaker 1: Are there universal laws that prevent advanced civilizations from interfering

854
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,239
in our business?

855
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, because again everything is in a sense sacrosanct.

856
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,639
Everything is. You know, every soul makes a decision for

857
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:11,480
what lessons it wants to learn and what it wants

858
00:50:11,519 --> 00:50:15,559
to experience. And in a sense that is all of

859
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:19,519
the different aspects that we are of source of existence.

860
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:23,639
We are all unique. We're all unique pieces of the

861
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:29,119
whole puzzle picture. And you can't change the shape of

862
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:33,400
that puzzle piece. It is what it is. So if

863
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,519
that puzzle piece, being an individual, whatever that is, is

864
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:44,079
saying what I am, requires that I choose to learn

865
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:50,079
things this way, well, nothing can really violate that. So

866
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,480
it's kind of like recognizing that every way in which

867
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:58,840
something can be done or learned or experienced is a

868
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,800
part of the whole. There is no reason to change it,

869
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,960
there's no reason to violate it. Now you can share

870
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:13,639
information that may be something that's important for that particular

871
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,440
unique puzzle piece to absorb as part of its journey.

872
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:19,840
But you have to let that puzzle piece or that

873
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:25,280
individual decide that that is correct for it. You can't

874
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,079
decide that for it. So the idea is to understand

875
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:38,639
the absolute respect and the absolute recognition that everything everyone

876
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:44,400
is doing and experiencing is part of that path of

877
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:51,760
that unique individual and is important for the overall experience

878
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,599
of existence for that to happen or to experience itself

879
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,920
that way as that piece of itself, So there is

880
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,960
no reason to change it or force it to change.

881
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:08,320
There is only an exchange of information that allows it

882
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,360
to know there are different options. If it is relevant

883
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,679
for that individual to choose that, you're giving them the

884
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:21,239
option to increase their ability to express more of the

885
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,519
uniqueness that they are. And therefore there's just no reason

886
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:26,880
to force anything on anyone.

887
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: Darrel, let me ask you because I've I just literally

888
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,320
had a a mystic from India in the studio the

889
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,119
other day and we were talking about disclosure because I'm

890
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:42,119
wanting to get his point of view about it. His

891
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,880
point of view, you know, he's very frank about it.

892
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,639
He's like, there are family. They are who we are.

893
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:55,320
It's like their family. They're like old old relatives coming in.

894
00:52:56,199 --> 00:53:00,800
But I found it very interesting coming from a Indian yogi,

895
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,079
a master saying these things. It was just finally fascinating.

896
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:06,440
But then as you do more research, you realize the

897
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,800
Baga deavita is aliens all in that thing everywhere.

898
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,599
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, a lot of our ancient texts

899
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,559
are actually talking about extraterrestrials. We've just been calling them gods,

900
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,199
you know, for whatever reason. But yeah, I mean, and

901
00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:26,679
I can describe the idea of our genetic connection at

902
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:31,440
least in a couple of ways, and that is the idea.

903
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:34,519
I mean, let me back up. You know a lot

904
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:37,880
of scientists have an issue with the idea of a

905
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,800
lot of the reports when people say they've encountered some

906
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,760
kind of extraterrestrial being, and they say, well, why are

907
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,480
all these reports talking about how these aliens look so

908
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,800
much like us? They're humanoid, they have a head, two eyes,

909
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,719
to arms, two legs. Why do these aliens look so

910
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,960
much like us? And I think that's backwards. They don't

911
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,800
look like us, we look like them. So the idea

912
00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:07,320
is that either through deliberate seeding of DNA from the

913
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,079
extraterrestrials to Earth, or through the device that we know

914
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:17,599
of as panspermia, where genetic material comes on asteroids and comets,

915
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:22,239
crashes into the Earth, somehow survives and thrives and evolves.

916
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,440
So I think we don't quite understand yet the mechanisms

917
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,599
of how genetic material is spread throughout the galaxy, either

918
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:39,440
deliberately or through natural means, that cause certain pockets of

919
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:46,400
the galaxy to develop life that is similar on different planets. So,

920
00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:50,760
either again deliberately, that would obviously make it similar. Because

921
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,440
if I'm taking some DNA from myself and putting it

922
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,079
on another planet, well yeah, there will be environmental things

923
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:00,360
that will make it look a little different than I look,

924
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,000
but it's probably still going to follow the same basic

925
00:55:03,079 --> 00:55:07,000
template if the conditions are correct, So I would expect

926
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:11,280
it to look somewhat humanoid. And again, if panspermia is

927
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,320
delivering genetic material to different areas in the galaxy, that's

928
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,159
the same genetic material. When it finds similar conditions on

929
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:21,960
one planet to another, it's probably going to follow a

930
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,639
template and have something that looks similar. Now, yeah, I'm

931
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,039
sure there are aliens that look nothing like us at

932
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,480
all in different parts of the universe, but that's a

933
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:36,679
different genetic spread, it's a different genetic you know, release

934
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,639
of that material. So sure, there's going to be both.

935
00:55:40,639 --> 00:55:42,119
They're going to be ones that look like us that

936
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:46,119
are probably genetically related to us very closely, and they're

937
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:48,320
going to be those that are not like us at

938
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,519
all and will be not even distant cousins. So yeah,

939
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,199
I think the ones that we're dealing with that look

940
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,800
a lot like us are family literally genetically connected to us.

941
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,800
And I think that's one of the things that's going

942
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:07,360
to happen in open contact, is they understand that. Let's say,

943
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:10,960
you know, people have said, well, you know, Palladians supposedly

944
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,320
look a lot like us, they're like distant cousins. And

945
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,920
I think they're going to be one of the first

946
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:21,000
extraterrestrials that are aside from a hybrid extraterrestrials combination of

947
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:24,920
human and other you know, being like a gray I

948
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,360
think they're going to be one of the first to

949
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,119
reveal themselves because we're not going to freak out so

950
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,920
much if they look a little bit like us. It's

951
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,320
easier to take. It's easier to absorb. It's like, Okay, well,

952
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,639
you know they're not that different, so I guess we

953
00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:41,079
can get used to them. So I think they're going

954
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:44,559
to deliberately roll out that way too. They're going to

955
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:46,840
introduce the ones that look more like us first, and

956
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,800
then they're going to overtime introduce us to ones that

957
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,079
don't look like us, because now we'll be used to

958
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:54,639
the idea that the ones that don't look like us

959
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,840
don't want to harm us either, And oh, well, you

960
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,599
guys are friends with them, so I guess we can

961
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:01,559
be friends, you know that kind of thing.

962
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,639
Speaker 1: Yes, before the palladians will come, before the predators come,

963
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,440
is what you're saying.

964
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:14,639
Speaker 2: Yes, but I don't think the predators themselves. I understand

965
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:17,960
that the different you know, species may have different agendas

966
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,559
and all that, and even when we talk about things

967
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,440
like the grays, I don't think we're lumping them all

968
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,039
into one category. I think there are different factions of

969
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:31,000
grays that have different understandings and different agendas. So I

970
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:34,360
think first we're going to be told who the hybrid

971
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,960
extraterrestrials are that have been living and working among us

972
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,880
for decades and helping us move forward with technology in

973
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,199
certain other areas of discipline. And then we'll be able

974
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:48,960
to interact with them. And then maybe the more pure

975
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:52,800
extraterrestrials like the Pleadians and so on and so forth,

976
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,880
will then reveal themselves as well, once we're used to

977
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,920
the fact that hybrid extraterrestrials have among us for so

978
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:04,400
long that we don't even blink an eye that they're here,

979
00:58:04,639 --> 00:58:05,000
you know.

980
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: Very much like a Destrict nine or an alien nation

981
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,880
kind of scenario, that they're just here and they're just yeah,

982
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,960
they're partners. There are partners.

983
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: We will be told who they are so we can

984
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,039
interact with them openly. That's one of the first phases

985
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,760
I believe of open contact. These are the beings that

986
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,119
have been among you all this time. Now you can

987
00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:28,000
open you can openly address them and interact.

988
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: With One thing I found fascinating I was thinking the

989
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,239
other day that you know, on Earth there is an

990
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:40,920
endless I mean literally uncalculable experiences that a soul can have,

991
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:46,760
I mean the different combinations of circumstances, religions, speech.

992
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,559
Speaker 2: That's what makes this tool so unique.

993
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: It's very powerful. But then I was thinking, because I've

994
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,360
spoken about this with near death experiences and mystics as well,

995
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:01,079
and even mediums who speak to the other side, that

996
00:59:01,159 --> 00:59:04,119
they say that we obviously we're not the only show

997
00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:08,320
in town. There are billions and billions of other shows.

998
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:13,519
So the experiences of a soul doesn't have to be

999
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:16,199
through human and that's very difficult. That's a big concept

1000
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:18,679
for people to understand. So can you talk a little

1001
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:23,159
bit about the concept of reincarnation in the sense that like,

1002
00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:26,119
because I've heard from people who've read me, they're like,

1003
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:30,239
you've been on Earth a lot. You love Earth, and

1004
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,840
you've been here a lot because you've experienced it. Because

1005
00:59:33,079 --> 00:59:36,760
but you've done this elsewhere you've gone to because those

1006
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,880
experiences on other planets, as other species in other scenarios

1007
00:59:41,159 --> 00:59:43,599
give a whole other set different lessons. It's like even

1008
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:44,000
get here.

1009
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like I said, it's like going to another university.

1010
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,719
You know, I'm going to Harvard instead of Yale today.

1011
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:53,960
It's like I'm going to go to another school. It's

1012
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:56,119
because there are different kinds of lessons to learn and

1013
00:59:56,159 --> 00:59:59,559
different experiences to have on different planets, which are different

1014
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:02,840
cities in the universe, different schools in the universe. So

1015
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,920
of course a soul has the freedom to choose whatever.

1016
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,280
So you know, maybe you know you can have five

1017
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,079
incarnations or twenty incarnations or two hundred incarnations on some

1018
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:15,639
planet in the Palladian systems, and then you decide, you

1019
01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:18,440
know what, I think my next incarnation, I'd like to

1020
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,760
explore what's going on on Earth, and you decide to

1021
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,880
have an incarnation here.

1022
01:00:24,519 --> 01:00:27,039
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1023
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:31,920
and now back to the show.

1024
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:38,519
Speaker 2: The soul is free to do that. And by the way,

1025
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,000
that's really the difference in the terminology between an old

1026
01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:45,159
soul and a new soul. It's not about the age

1027
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:47,800
of the soul. Souls are all the same age. They're eternal.

1028
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,400
The idea of a new soul and an old soul

1029
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:57,320
is how many incarnations you've had on a particular planet

1030
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,840
or a particular reality. So let's say you decide that

1031
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,880
you're coming to Earth, and may you've maybe you've tried

1032
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:10,159
Earth incarnations ten times, but maybe there are souls that

1033
01:01:10,199 --> 01:01:15,079
have had a thousand Earth incarnations. That's an old soul

1034
01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:20,119
because they're more experienced about Earth, and you're a new

1035
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:23,800
soul because you only have ten incarnations on Earth, but

1036
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,960
that doesn't mean you might not have had ten thousand

1037
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:30,519
incarnations somewhere else. So it's old soul. New soul is

1038
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:34,320
about the amount of experience you have in a particular place.

1039
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,639
Has nothing to do with the age of the soul itself,

1040
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,840
and has to do with the kind of experience you

1041
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,000
have in a particular reality.

1042
01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: Is open contact going to be a catalyst for the

1043
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,960
greatest spiritual awakening humanity has ever had?

1044
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:57,679
Speaker 2: I think so, yes, well absolutely, because again, beings that

1045
01:01:57,719 --> 01:02:02,719
are as advanced as some of these ets appear to

1046
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:09,199
be are operating on an energy frequency level that is

1047
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:13,559
very similar to spirit. In fact, I think that's one

1048
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:16,800
of the things that causes us a little trepidation when

1049
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,400
we encounter them, is we pick up on this vibration

1050
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:23,800
they're giving off, this energy frequency they're giving off that

1051
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,119
is so close to the idea of the frequency of

1052
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:33,000
spirit of non physical reality, that when exposed to that frequency,

1053
01:02:33,719 --> 01:02:38,239
our primitive brain interprets that as if we're about to die,

1054
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:43,039
because it represents the spirit realm, and so we back

1055
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:45,800
away and we're afraid because we go into survival mode.

1056
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,519
We going to fight or flight mode. So I think

1057
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:50,480
that's one of the things that we have to get

1058
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,039
used to and why Bashar has been saying, you need

1059
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:55,480
to meet us halfway. You need to upgrade your frequency.

1060
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,360
You need to raise that frequency so that you're not

1061
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,039
so different and energetically from us, so that you're more

1062
01:03:03,079 --> 01:03:07,519
compatible with us, because you have this reaction to that

1063
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:10,440
high vibration, as if exposure to us is going to

1064
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:14,119
annihilate you. It's not. It's just that that's the way

1065
01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:18,079
you react to spirit energy because you're so compartmentalized and

1066
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:22,480
your vibrational frequency is so low that it's like he's

1067
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:25,119
used the analogy of like we're a very slow spinning

1068
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:28,559
gear and they're a very high speed gear, and if

1069
01:03:28,599 --> 01:03:30,760
you bring those two things together, you're going to strip

1070
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,800
the gears. So you have to speed up to be

1071
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,239
more compatible, so the gears can mesh and so that

1072
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,159
there is no damage done to our psyche. We don't

1073
01:03:40,159 --> 01:03:43,440
go into psychic shock because we're exposed to something that

1074
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,880
to us represents death the afterlife, because we have such

1075
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,559
a fear of death instead of just understanding that we're

1076
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:56,639
just transitioning to our natural state, which is a soul.

1077
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,519
Speaker 1: But it sounds when you said that that it sounded

1078
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:04,719
almost like ayahuasca or psilocybin or one of those things

1079
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,639
that you you're so opened up and you and you're

1080
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,840
you are throwing the slow and the fast years are

1081
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,800
thrown together that you feel like you're going to die.

1082
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:13,760
So many people.

1083
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:17,639
Speaker 2: Exactly on that, exactly exactly. But when you get used

1084
01:04:17,639 --> 01:04:20,840
to that, that doesn't happen anymore. So you have to

1085
01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:24,559
accept the higher frequency as something that is more representative

1086
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:28,239
of your natural soul vibration. And in fact, there's something

1087
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:34,639
very interesting about the latest uh Dan Brown book. You're

1088
01:04:34,679 --> 01:04:40,199
familiar with, yeah, individual, but his latest is The Secret

1089
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:43,599
of Secrets. That's his latest book. And yes it's a

1090
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:47,880
fictional story, but the research behind the story is real,

1091
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,760
and it's all about what is consciousness right, And one

1092
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,119
of the things that he talks about in there is

1093
01:04:56,159 --> 01:05:01,000
the idea that you know, the what Mishar calls the

1094
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:05,159
teachers of the Earth, you know, like ayahuasca, DMT, things

1095
01:05:05,239 --> 01:05:10,599
like that, that give you these expanded experiences, these expanded perspectives.

1096
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,800
He's basically saying that in the human body, there's this

1097
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:21,039
chemical called gamma amino butyic acid. It goes by the

1098
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:28,519
acronym GABBA gaba gamma amino butyic acid, and this chemical

1099
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:34,199
acts like a filtering system to filter out most of

1100
01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:39,360
what we don't need from our reality perception. So when

1101
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:46,239
you take one of those drugs, that's a more natural representation.

1102
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:52,440
He's saying, you're not hallucinating, you're seeing more of what

1103
01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:58,599
is actually there in reality. That's a huge, huge difference

1104
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,440
in the way you look at what's happening in those experiences.

1105
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,239
It's opening you up, it's dropping the GABBA in your system,

1106
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,400
it's removing the filter, and it's allowing you to actually

1107
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,960
see more of what's actually there that we simply don't

1108
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:20,800
normally process. So, yeah, that's a big difference, and I

1109
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,480
think that's one of the things that happens in the channelings,

1110
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,239
and I think it's one of the things that happens

1111
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:32,599
in exposure to beings of higher frequency. It's like taking

1112
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:36,840
a drug. It lowers the filter and we start seeing

1113
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,480
more of reality. And most people can't handle that. They're

1114
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,039
not ready to process that. So we have to do

1115
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:46,039
it in steps. We have to get used to it.

1116
01:06:46,679 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: So in that Dan Brown book The Secrets of Secrets,

1117
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,199
you're saying that what he that's that's what he said

1118
01:06:52,199 --> 01:06:53,039
in the book, right.

1119
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,239
Speaker 2: That is what he said in the book, and it's

1120
01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:58,360
based on real research, So.

1121
01:06:58,239 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: That's research that so all of that is some real research.

1122
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,639
So that makes a lot of sense because there's if

1123
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:08,320
you just look throughout our reality right now, there's things

1124
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,480
that are happening right now around us that we have

1125
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:16,199
no ability to connect with or even observe. Radio waves,

1126
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,840
gamma rays, microwaves, all that stuff's been there forever gravity.

1127
01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:25,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not even the stuff that's typically invisible to us.

1128
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:29,639
Even our scientists know that. Just in terms of processing

1129
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,280
what is physically around us, we're already filtering out like

1130
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,679
probably ninety percent of it just so we can get

1131
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:41,199
along and have a day and do our business without

1132
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,280
going crazy. So we already have a whole bunch of

1133
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,920
these filters and blinders on us just so we can

1134
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,199
have a quote unquote normal life, because if we could

1135
01:07:53,239 --> 01:07:56,159
actually see more of what's going on, I mean, we

1136
01:07:56,199 --> 01:07:58,559
would just be like, I'm going to be staring at

1137
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:01,159
that tree for the next twelve hour just because of

1138
01:08:01,199 --> 01:08:03,360
all the I can see.

1139
01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:06,199
Speaker 1: What happens when people go on that kind.

1140
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: Of exactly because there's more of what's actually happening there

1141
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,719
than it prevents you from living the life you chose

1142
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,680
to live to learn your lessons. You just that's why,

1143
01:08:17,159 --> 01:08:17,399
you know.

1144
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,319
Speaker 1: So they just sit there like, hey man, so let's

1145
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,199
just what are you saying?

1146
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 2: Man?

1147
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: Like you see those you see those in movies, you

1148
01:08:25,039 --> 01:08:27,359
see those in stories, and you see like I've actually

1149
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:29,079
seen friends of mine who've done that that you'd like

1150
01:08:29,119 --> 01:08:33,279
literally have a conversation with a plan absolutely for seven

1151
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,439
hours exactly.

1152
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:39,560
Speaker 2: Because you can. Because the filter is down, you're not hallucinating,

1153
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,079
you're seeing more of what's there.

1154
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,399
Speaker 1: So then and then is it our job, not our job,

1155
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,960
but is it our evolution to eventually continuously bring down

1156
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,239
that veil and see the man behind the curtain as

1157
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:55,199
in odds, slowly but surely, so we can accept all

1158
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:58,399
of that, so we can just get a more full experience.

1159
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,399
Speaker 2: It's bringing more of your soul through the physical form.

1160
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,600
It's in a sense bringing heaven down to Earth, not

1161
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,399
running away from Earth to get to Heaven. Bringing that

1162
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,920
energy down to Earth and having Earth be more of

1163
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:17,840
a representation of the soul's purer energy. Yeah, that's in

1164
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:18,960
a sense our job.

1165
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:24,119
Speaker 1: How can we mitigate the insane amount of fear that

1166
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:29,399
humanity has about not only disclosure but generally because it's

1167
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:31,960
one of the biggest things that is hurting us, is

1168
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:32,520
this fear.

1169
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: Well, we have to understand how belief systems work and

1170
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,840
why we choose to believe what we believe. And this

1171
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,279
is where Bashar is very good at delivering tools that

1172
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:48,680
allow us to get in touch with understanding our psychology,

1173
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,920
how it works, and how we can change it more easily.

1174
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,560
Recently this has been interesting. You know, he's referred to

1175
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,840
himself for a long time as a first contact specialist,

1176
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,520
but recently he's actually been saying, but what being a

1177
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:10,479
first contact specialist means is I'm actually a diplomatic psychologist.

1178
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:18,920
I understand how human psychology actually works. Here's the mechanism,

1179
01:10:19,399 --> 01:10:22,359
and when you want to change from a negative, fear

1180
01:10:22,359 --> 01:10:25,960
based belief to a more positive one, this is how

1181
01:10:26,039 --> 01:10:30,199
the system works. This is what belief systems are. This

1182
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is how you get in touch with what they are,

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01:10:33,159 --> 01:10:35,359
how you get in touch with why you're buying into

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what you're buying into, and how you change it. So

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we all have to understand what that process is, how

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to get in touch with whatever we believe to be

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01:10:46,359 --> 01:10:49,560
true about ourselves, why we believe it to be true,

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01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:53,520
why it's just a story that we're telling ourselves, and

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how we can change the story. So he's very good

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,079
at delivering information that actually allows us, gives us a

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01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:03,319
toolkit to go through that process, let go of the

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01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:08,159
fear based beliefs and not be afraid of choosing something different.

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That's the big thing is a lot of times beliefs

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01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,399
because they're designed to perpetuate themselves so you can have

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a physical experience. We'll do things to make you not

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01:11:20,039 --> 01:11:23,159
want to let them go because that's all they're trying

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to do is perpetuate themselves so you can continue to

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have a physical experience. So when we don't care what

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the positive beliefs tell us because we enjoy that. But

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the fear based beliefs can only use fear based tools.

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So the fear based belief is saying, if you stop

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01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:43,359
believing in this thing, I'm going to make something worse happen.

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So stay where you are. Don't let that go, because

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,199
even though you know this isn't necessarily your best option,

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01:11:52,079 --> 01:11:56,680
it's safer to stay where you are. If you go

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01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,159
and try to follow your passion, you go and try

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to live your dream. Oh so many bad things could

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happen that you're better off just not trying, and then

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you never try. So you have to hear that as

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a story that the belief is telling you, so you

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won't let it go as a self perpetuating mechanism instead

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of hearing it as a fact as inevitable, because it's not.

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It's just a story. It doesn't mean that it's actually

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true that something worse is going to happen. And you

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,119
can prove that to yourself by being willing to know

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01:12:31,359 --> 01:12:33,880
that that's just a story and that I prefer a

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different story and take the action that is representative of

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the different story and see that you actually get a

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different result. And it's not about, oh, something's going to

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be horrible is going to happen to me because I

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did this. That's just part of the story that keeps

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01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,560
you in the fear based belief, because that's what fear

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based beliefs do to perpetuate themselves, because you have to

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,000
have a belief in something being true in order to

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01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,920
have a physical reality experience, because physical reality isn't real,

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it's an illusion, it's a projection. Of consciousness. So it's

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our belief systems that make physical reality seem solid because

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it uses emotions and thought processes and behaviors to get

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01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:18,039
a reflection that reinforces the belief. So a belief, both

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01:13:18,079 --> 01:13:21,920
positive and negative, have to use emotions to make you

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01:13:22,039 --> 01:13:24,600
feel that what it's telling you is real, to make

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,000
you think that what it's telling you is real, and

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to get you to behave as if what's telling you

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what it's telling you is real, so that you get

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the reflection that what you just did is real because

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you get a reflection of what you put out because

1237
01:13:38,319 --> 01:13:41,159
reality is just a mirror, so it's just showing you

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this is what you believed in. You bought into this,

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You behaved as if you felt like you knew it

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01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:49,199
was real, You thought it was real, You behaved as

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01:13:49,239 --> 01:13:51,359
if it was real. Therefore you get the reflection that

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it's real because whatever we say is what reality is.

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So you just have to understand that mechanism and then

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you can change it.

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Speaker 1: One thing that you would like to say to people

1246
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,279
about disclosure to put them either at ease or to

1247
01:14:08,319 --> 01:14:10,840
get them to understand what's going to happen with open contact.

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The first open contact. What would that be.

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01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: These beings are part of our family. We are part

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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:21,000
of their family. This is a chance to go from

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being Homo sapiens to Homo galacticus. It's part of our evolution.

1252
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,079
This is what we have collectively decided is important for

1253
01:14:30,279 --> 01:14:34,119
our species to understand at this point, is that we

1254
01:14:34,319 --> 01:14:38,359
are not and never have been alone, and it's now

1255
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,359
time to meet our cousins. It's now time to meet

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the rest of the family. And in a sense, it's

1257
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,840
a family reunion. It's not going to be something that

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is going to harm us. It is something that is

1259
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,640
going to allow us to expand and to grow and

1260
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,720
to learn and to become more of who we truly

1261
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,199
are at as souls. It's going to help us get

1262
01:15:02,199 --> 01:15:04,840
in touch with ourselves. It's going to help us understand

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01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,199
how to do things for the benefit of humanity of everyone,

1264
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,000
and it's going to allow us to experience, ultimately in

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time over the next few decades, truly experience heaven on Earth.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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01:15:25,239 --> 01:15:26,520
and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: It's our birthright to do so, and it's okay to

1269
01:15:33,319 --> 01:15:37,239
engage with that. Nothing is going to happen other than

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01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,079
more revelation of what we are and who we are

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01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:47,039
as aspects of all that is so kind of in

1272
01:15:47,039 --> 01:15:50,359
a sense, not meaning to mean this in a mean way.

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We need to get over ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Then some my friend, and then I wanted to ask

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,520
you this, do you do you believe because in the

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last one hundred years, specifically one hundred hundred and twenty

1277
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five years or so, there has been an explosion of

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the sci fi basically genre that was there was before

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01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,960
h It was HG. Wells, if I'm not mistaken, who started?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? HG. Wells and Jules Verne and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Those guys those were the ones that started, and then

1282
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they inspired.

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Speaker 2: Yes and no, because there are actually some ancient tales

1284
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that do lend.

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Speaker 1: Them Bagata vita perfect.

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Speaker 2: But of course, in a sense they may not have

1287
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actually been describing science fiction. They may have actually been

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describing real events, but we read it as science fiction.

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But yes, there's been a resurgence of those ideas. Again,

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I think as preparation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you, do

1292
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,439
you believe that that like people like George Lucas or

1293
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,239
Gene Roddenberry, which due to the Giant French or James Cameron,

1294
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:55,680
who get these kind of ideas, not implanted, but they

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inspired the access.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you see, the thing of it is is you

1297
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,640
only get what you're on the level of vibrationally, So

1298
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,880
people that are willing to act on their passion and

1299
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:12,119
be creative have the ability to access information that's available

1300
01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:15,319
to the ETS as well, and they bring down ideas

1301
01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:20,239
that can help because again unconsciously, on the collective unconscious level,

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we know that we chose to have these experiences of

1303
01:17:25,159 --> 01:17:28,279
open contact at this time in our lives. So we're

1304
01:17:28,319 --> 01:17:32,880
going to have different people accessing different things, whether consciously

1305
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,840
or not, that are going to fall in line as

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01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,479
part of our preparation to get used to this idea.

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You know, like I said, anyone born after nineteen sixty

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nine knows we've always been in space. That's not unusual

1309
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,840
for that generation. And when ETS make open contact, anyone

1310
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,359
born after that is going to know we've always interacted

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01:17:54,399 --> 01:17:58,800
with extraterrestrials and that's not unusual. That's the way it is.

1312
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:04,720
That's normal. So with each of those exposures to different ideas, Yeah,

1313
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there could be extraterustrial life, and yes, we've discovered all

1314
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,600
these exoplanets, and now we're considering that, you know, maybe

1315
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,680
it's possible aliens can get here. The math says it

1316
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,279
might be possible. We may not have the technology, but

1317
01:18:17,319 --> 01:18:20,720
the math says it's doable. We can actually travel the stars.

1318
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,800
Maybe there's wormholes we can go through that make shortcuts

1319
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,119
for us. We're now considering all these different things that

1320
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:30,760
start erasing all the objections we had to this in

1321
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,600
the past. So yeah, I think on whatever level, whether

1322
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,359
it's conscious, unconscious, or what have you, collectively we have

1323
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,119
been preparing ourselves for this to happen because this is

1324
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:45,159
the next great leap in the evolution of humanity.

1325
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,319
Speaker 1: And what part does Mars play in all of this?

1326
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,279
Is there a part that Mars has played in the

1327
01:18:50,319 --> 01:18:52,479
past or we'll play in the future for humanity?

1328
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Speaker 2: I think so. I do think there was a civilization

1329
01:18:56,279 --> 01:19:00,079
a long time ago on Mars, and I think in

1330
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:06,520
some ways we may be the Martians. You know, material

1331
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:12,399
from Mars we know has been traveled to Earth based

1332
01:19:12,399 --> 01:19:15,800
on meteoric bombardment on the planet, that is, shot debris

1333
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:20,399
into space. Some of those Martian asteroids and meteors have

1334
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,199
landed on Earth. It might have brought genetic material from

1335
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those civilizations to Earth and we may actually be the Martians.

1336
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That's one theory. I don't know there's any proof of

1337
01:19:31,319 --> 01:19:36,079
that at the moment. But again on a soul level,

1338
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I think again there may have been a civilization that

1339
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:42,880
souls incarnated into. Now that that civilization is no longer there,

1340
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,840
now they can incarnate on Earth. I think Earth is

1341
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,920
like a real melting pot for different stories. Maybe the

1342
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,239
idea of Atlantis redoing itself and coming to a more

1343
01:19:53,279 --> 01:19:57,399
positive conclusion because it was destroyed. Maybe the Martian civilization's

1344
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,239
story playing out on Earth because it got destroyed and

1345
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:06,000
looking for a better outcome. Maybe the ancient Oriyan civilizations

1346
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,119
of oppression and suppression or playing out on Earth. I

1347
01:20:09,159 --> 01:20:12,239
think there's so many stories. This is what makes Earth

1348
01:20:12,399 --> 01:20:15,039
as a school so unique, is there are so many

1349
01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:20,279
exchange students from so many different places in the cosmos

1350
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,520
playing out a story here, finding a way to make

1351
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,760
that story have a more positive ending. And I think

1352
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,600
that's why some things are just so chaotic here. Is

1353
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,479
just you have so many different things going on from

1354
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:40,000
so many different places that it's a real melting pot

1355
01:20:40,039 --> 01:20:41,840
of the cosmos, and that's one of the things that

1356
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makes Earth so unique and so valuable.

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Speaker 1: Daryl, Where can people find out more about you and

1358
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,000
the amazing work you're.

1359
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 2: Doing, anything that Bishar has been talking about. They can

1360
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:56,159
certainly go to Bishar dot org Bashar dot org. If

1361
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:59,399
they want to find out how I'm following my passion

1362
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,880
with the escape room that my wife and I have

1363
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,359
in Los Angeles, they can go to Boggled escape Rooms

1364
01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:10,359
dot com b O G g l ed Boggled escape

1365
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:15,439
Rooms dot com and they can come here and listen

1366
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,560
to us chat yes, and and and for people who

1367
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,600
go to the escape room, there might be a chance

1368
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,199
that you have a sighting of Daryl himself.

1369
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: Maybe not always there. You're a busy man, but every

1370
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,840
once in a while, you know, you know, you're a gomer,

1371
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,800
you're the game master every once in a while.

1372
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Speaker 2: Which is every once in a while.

1373
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:43,199
Speaker 1: It's trippy. It's trippy, for sure. And do you have

1374
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:48,319
any final words for the audience about disclosure, about where

1375
01:21:48,319 --> 01:21:51,000
we are, what's happening in the world, anything you'd like

1376
01:21:51,039 --> 01:21:52,800
to say to leave everybody.

1377
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,319
Speaker 2: Well, again, just I think now we're at a point

1378
01:21:54,319 --> 01:21:59,319
where this is really inevitable, and I think that it's

1379
01:21:59,359 --> 01:22:02,159
important to to be more of who you are, to

1380
01:22:02,239 --> 01:22:06,439
be more prepared and vibrationally compatible with the idea that

1381
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:11,880
humanity is going through a very large evolutionary transition and transformation,

1382
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,920
and that's just what the times are all about. It's

1383
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:19,399
all about transformation and transition. So I think we need

1384
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,960
to go with that flow, and I think things will

1385
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,720
be much easier if we just become more of who

1386
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,119
we are, because really, the toughest thing in the world,

1387
01:22:27,159 --> 01:22:29,600
even though we think the opposite, is trying to be

1388
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,560
someone we're not, and everyone tries to do that. We're

1389
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,359
always told be this, be that, you have to do this,

1390
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,920
you have to do it that way. There's a unique

1391
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,000
path for everyone, because we are all unique. You just

1392
01:22:41,039 --> 01:22:43,159
have to find that path and know that it'll work

1393
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:46,359
for you. So being yourself is the most important thing,

1394
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,359
and it will bring you everything you need to fulfill

1395
01:22:49,399 --> 01:22:52,640
you in life, including what's going on collectively with all

1396
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of us.

1397
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Speaker 1: My friend, it is always a pleasure and honor speaking

1398
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,800
to you, my brother from another mother. I appreciate you

1399
01:23:02,199 --> 01:23:04,159
so much, my friend, and thank you again for everything

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01:23:04,199 --> 01:23:04,640
that you're doing.

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 2: Measure to speak with you always. I really appreciate the doorway,

1402
01:23:09,079 --> 01:23:14,039
the window that you've created for conversations like this. I

1403
01:23:14,079 --> 01:23:17,399
think that's a really important part of the work of

1404
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,680
sharing information to help people prepare for the changes that

1405
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,520
are coming up. So I applaud what you're doing as well.

1406
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,319
It's extremely crucial.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, appreciate you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you you too, Hie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll

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