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let's dive in to today's episode. I like to welcome
back to the show returning champion dar Anka.
Speaker 2: How you doing, Darryl Alex, I'm doing great. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good, my friend. I think you still have the record.
I think you are now with this effort, and you
have the record of the most interviews on Next Level Soul.
I think from back in the day when you were
so kind to a young and fledgling podcast back in
the day, because you were one of like five people
and you in the spiritual space.
Speaker 2: Now you are the master.
Speaker 1: Well I don't know about that, but I appreciate you,
my friend. Thank you so much for coming. Well, listen, man,
a lot of stuff. I've been wanting to get you
back on the show for a little bit because there's
just so much stuff happening in the world. And first,
the first question I have to because now you and
I are both movie geeks and come from the movie world,
so I have to ask you, did you see Disclosure Day.
Speaker 2: I've seen it twice.
Speaker 1: It's I felt that it was remarkable and it was
Spielberg at his kind.
Speaker 2: I think so, Yes, I think so. I think it's
a very important film. The thing I find interesting about
it is how divisive it is. There are people that
love it and people that hate it. And my feeling
in talking to some of the people that didn't like it,
and not only didn't like it, hated it, was what
are they seeing that I didn't see, or vice versa,
what am I seeing that they didn't see. My general
consensus is that I think most people that didn't like
it don't understand that Disclosure is actually a real thing
that's happening, and they think it was just this sci
fi film that to them just kind of didn't make
any sense. So I think they missed the important point
of what Spielberg was doing was Look, I'm just trying
to bring your attention to the fact and in a
dramatized way that this is actually going on in our
society and is about to crack, is about to happen
some way, maybe not the way the film depicted, but
this is about to happen, so get ready. And there
were several things. I was very surprised at how many
things he actually or he and the writer actually got
right in the film that are accurate to what you're
going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you talk a little bit about that as well? Yeah,
did it get accurately?
Speaker 2: I mean just the idea that, first of all, of course,
that there has been a cover up, the inference to
certain events that happened, they got very accurate. The idea
of the screen memories of the aliens appearing to be
either animals or something else, they got accurate. There are
several things in there, and it's interesting because you know,
obviously anyone listening to this spoiler alert, there are a
lot of spoiler alerts if we're going to talk about
the movie, so you know, you don't want to hear that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just fast forward a little bit. Yeah, fast forward
a little bit, or click on a little like on
the link in the description. Now move it along.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing that was interesting to me that
I did not catch the first time I saw the
movie because it's sort of somewhat subtle, but I got
it the second time is and I'll ask you this question,
who was actually responsible for the release of the information
in the movie. Who caused disclosure to happen? You mean
who was finding who was behind the actual disclosure that
happened in the movie? Who caused it? Who said it
in motion and caused it to happen?
Speaker 1: Who said it in Well, I the thing that keeps
popping into my head is the president who walked in
like drunk, showing at the Jackie Gleeson, which I'm sure
Nixon did, and that.
Speaker 2: Was accurate too, That is a story. He did show
Jackie Gleeson that stuff. But but I mean at the
end of the movie, when when they actually expose all
the information, Sure, who's the one that actually caused that
to happen.
Speaker 1: There's so much stuff going on, and I saw it
a few weeks ago, so I can't remember who was it.
Speaker 2: The alien themselves, the aliens, You're right, charge of disclosure,
not a US. The aliens are in charge. The ETS
are in charge. And that's also accurate. Interesting in my
opinion in terms of what I understand, because it's gone
from US being sort of in charge by keeping the
information secret to the ETS being in charge in terms
of the timing now of the release of this information,
which is why we're starting to see a lot of
the disclosure happening is because they know it's inevitable because
now it's on the ETS agenda as to when it
needs to happen, and they have to scramble and get
this stuff out there so that they can position themselves
to not look so bad. So they need to release
this information because they know there's very little time lift
in which they have to hide it.
Speaker 1: So is that why they've been doing all of these
you know, the data dumps, if you will, into the public.
Speaker 2: Data dumps, government congressional hearings with whistleblowers and stuff like that.
All of this is coming out and the data dumps,
you know that they're releasing you know, this have a
lot more to release. They're doing it as you know,
slowly as they could possibly do it, but they're not
in charge anymore, and they know there's a deadline here.
And I think that is one of the things that
the film actually also got very accurate, is we're not
the ones in charge anymore about when this information ultimately
comes out.
Speaker 1: One thing that I found fascinating about Disclosure Day as
well is Spielberg and many of his interviews is like,
this is not a sci fi film. He literally says that, right,
you know, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, it's interesting, you know, he framed it as a
Chase movie in a sense, but you know, it's still
well done. And see, that's what's really interesting to me
is to watch how people that you know didn't like that,
really vehemently didn't like it. And I think they were
going in expecting either you know, the touchy feely Spielberg
of E. T. The Extraterrestrial or the mystery Spielberg of
Close Encounters. This is not those movies. This is folks,
this is what's happening. Get on board. So he did
it as a Chase movie, but I think he was
basically framing it as you need to understand that this
is actually happening in our society and something is going
to change.
Speaker 1: What I really and I think you will appreciate this
one of the things. I saw it so clearly, I
was like, Oh, I can't believe he's he's in the
know in the sense that he he introduces or he
he spotlights channeling in the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, with Emily Blunt, you know, And even though
again it's not exactly how it went down. He also
references the idea of the CIA mind control experiments and
things like that with what you know Colin Firth is doing. Yeah,
he just there's just a lot of little breadcrumbs in
there and a little hints in there that if you're
familiar with the information to some degree, you start, oh,
he got that, and yes he's referring to that, and
he's referring to this. So there's a lot of little
things in there him that I think that people that
are not familiar with what's going on in UFO law
and disclosure law, I think it just kind of went
over their heads and they feel like it just didn't
make sense to them.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to age. Well. I think that's
a film.
Speaker 2: I think so. I think so people are going to
look back at it and go, oh, he got a
lot of this stuff right, And he was trying to
tell us something, you know. That's that's what the movie is.
He's trying to tell us something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And anytime they ask him, he's like, have you
ever seen anything? He's like, no, no one's ever shown
me anything. No, they don't appear to me. Why wouldn't
they appear to me. I've been their biggest pr person.
He said that it's like it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's also some indications, however, that he has
had discussions with people and been read into some things.
Maybe not everything, but people have you know, in the
military or in the government and have had you know,
some conversations with him. So you know, he's probably included
that in what's in the film as well. But now,
I thought he did a great job with it. I
enjoyed the film just generally as a movie. So you know,
the the reactions that I'm seeing of people who just
like really vehemently hated it, I just think there's something
going on there that's like a real divide, either fear
based unconsciously or they just simply aren't familiar enough with
the information to have recognized that he's trying to tell
you something that you're just thinking is fictional, you know,
and it's not.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you somebody asks you, Daryl, before
we kind of I want to really dive into because
you and I have never had the conversation about disclosure,
and now it's it's so far, it's so much more
in the public eye. Will before we get into that,
I just want to ask you a simple question, after
all these years that you've been on this planet. What's
still fast ate you about humanity?
Speaker 2: Well, fascinates I mean, on one hand, you know, there
is the limitless creativity that humans are capable of when
they actually open themselves up to who they are and
and you know their purpose in life. And on the
other hand, there's that amazing capacity to be in denial
about what's right in front of their faith. You know,
I just don't want to say I'm not going to
look at that. I don't no, no, no, no no, because
you know, there they haven't faced certain things within themselves
that that admission of those other things happening would force
them to look at and they're just not willing to
do that. But you know, but this is what's happening
on the planet now. It's like we're at the end
of a cycle of isolation and we're coming into a
cycle of connection. And I think that's why originally, you know,
in my channeling, when Bishar talks about twenty twenty six
being the year of disclosure, he's not just referring to
UFO information, He's saying, all your secrets have to start
coming out. And that's kind of what we're seeing right
Exposure of this, and these files and all these hidden
secrets that people have been harboring for so long are
now being put out into the public so that we
can see what's been going on and finally say, is
this how we want to continue or do we want
to change and do something different? So this is the
year of disclosure in all sense, on all different kinds
of levels. That's why we're seeing so much chaos because
everything's coming out in the open, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have leaders around the world that are
helping with that chaos.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, in a sense, you know, looking at
it on the positive side, they are souls that have
chosen to be agents of disruption so that we can
in fact see how much negative stuff we have been allowing.
So it's kind of like I'm going to put this
in your face so blatantly that you can't miss it,
and that you're going to finally decide enough is enough
and you're going to finally do something about it. In
that sense, I think they're serving a positive purpose, even
though consciously they may not understand what they're doing, but
I think they're going to trigger a very big change
in the near future just because people are going, oh,
my God, look at all this stuff that's going on,
and this is not working for us. We have to
do something different.
Speaker 1: Is it similar? Is an analogy? Is it similar nature?
Where in an ecosystem, let's say a closed ecosystem, Well,
let's say the Everglades. The apex predator in the Everglades
is was the alligator before the anacondas went in and
started messing up the thing. But alligators, But that's a
perfect example. The alligator. He kills, he eats, he does everything,
But it is you know, and you look upon that like, oh,
that's horrible. But without him right, things would go out
of goog gota. So even the negative aspects of nature
have a balancing part of it.
Speaker 2: It's all one system. See, that's the thing we humanity
tends to think in compartmentalized ways, like I'm going to
do something over here and it's not going to have
any effect over there, And that's just ridiculous. It's one system.
You can't tip the scale in one part without tipping
the scales in the whole thing. I just saw a
video the other day. They were talking about how, you know,
somewhere in the Middle Ages they decided for some reason
on religious on a religious basis, that cats were demonic,
and they started hunting all these cats and killing them,
and then of course the rap population exploded because there
was no cats to kill them, and the rats brought
the fleas that brought the Black plague. So humanity basically
almost erased itself in Europe because of this religious conviction
that somehow cats were demons and we have to get
rid of them. You do one thing to one part
of it and the whole thing just falls apart. It's
amazing we haven't learned that lesson yet.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. And isn't that from
my understanding from the research I've done, that cats in
the Middle Ages, you know, witches, that whole thing with
the witches, people thought women who lived by themselves with
a cat, a black, a familiar cat. Yes, exactly, they
were demonic or they were evil or this is not
because everybody else around them was dying except then, but
they had the cat that was killing the rats, so
the rats wouldn't get into their house exact, and they wouldn't,
but they couldn't understand that. Isn't that funny.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and also I mean probably on an unconscious level,
a lot of humans could pick up on the fact
that cats can see spirits, they can see into other
realities and things like that, and so again you know
they're going, oh, that's you know, that's a demonic trait
without even consciously realizing what they were picking up on.
But the thing I find so fascinating is their reaction
is always at first it's the negative thing, it's the
demonic thing, instead of why couldn't that be an angelic power?
You know. So the interesting thing is the people that
are calling out all these demonic things are the ones,
in a sense who are steeped in the demonic fear.
It's like they're the ones that are perpetuating the idea
of the negative reality and the demonic thing that the
thing they're ascribing to d demons is what their first
reaction is. Instead of saying, why couldn't this be something
from God? Why couldn't it be a blessing? You know,
they always go in the negative thing because they're steeped
in fear, which I would think would be more if
you know, demons did exist, would be more the hallmark
of what the demons would be like, would be inducing
fear in people. So, you know, it's an ironic and
paradoxical reaction that they don't seem to be capable of
seeing within themselves when they react that way. And it's
still going on now, we're still talking about the idea.
Some people in religious circles are saying, oh, the UFOs
and the aliens are demons, you know, and so it's like, again,
why is that the first reaction. Why couldn't they be
angelic being something else that just to me illustrates and
underlines underscores their own fear based beliefs and has nothing
to do with them. And to some degree, I find
calling an an et a demon to be somewhat racist.
It's sort of the same thing that people did in
the past when they called people of color black devils.
I mean, it's just this whole fear based thing of
calling out something that you're not familiar with and putting
it in a category that you know can make you
not have to face them or persecute them because you
just don't want to deal with it. So yeah, to me,
at this point in modern history, calling an et or
you know, something from a UFO demonic force is an
extremely racist reaction.
Speaker 1: Then you're establishing that demons are off planet as well, ye,
running around.
Speaker 2: In space and spaceship exactly. It's just ridiculous to me.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. There's something going on
right now in the world that is, you know, there's
so much chaos and all this negativity, but there's something
very positive. There's one thing going on that I've seen
that I've truly never seen happen before, and it's wrapped
around the World Cup. Now, we've had World Cups for
I don't know how many hundreds of years, but you know,
decades now, and I'm familiar with it. I wasn't a fan,
I mean, never been a soccer fan per se. I'm
a familiar with it. Yeah, I've become much more of
a soccer fan in this World Cup for whatever reason,
because I'm watching it more and all that stuff. But
what I'm finding fascinating is, maybe because it's been thirty
two years since it's been in the US, the reaction
of foreign people coming from foreign lands to the US,
the love and the positivity about what we as a
culture is the US have to offer them and the
truth behind who we are as a people, not our government,
not our companies, not our but our people. And then
you can turn the coin on that too. Is if
I'm sure you've you've traveled the world. A lot of
this stuff that they say about other countries to us
is like I was afraid to leave the country for
a long time when I was a young man because
of like, oh god, you can't go down there. Oh
my god, you can't go over there. There's people dying,
there's people killing. And then I found out the truth
when I went over to Europe and I went down
to Mexico and I went down to different countries around
like this is beautiful people. So what is your take
on that? What is it significant significance of that spiritually
and about our awakening in general right now because it
is a movement, a global thingling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, it's about when you finally connect and you
finally talk with one another, you find you have more
in common than you have differences. And I think that's
again it's about it's part of the connection and globalization
to become one people, you know, to understand. Yeah, sure,
we want to preserve different interesting things in our cultures
and stuff like that, but it's not about homogenizing us.
It's about having our differences be compatible and validate the
differences so that we have a richer culture overall. As
a planet. We have to start thinking of ourselves as
a planetary people, because again, that's going to be one
of the things that happens when we have open contact
is because that's how the ets look at us. You know.
One of the things that Bishar has been talking about
lately in the Channelings is reinforcing the whole idea that
Earth is a school, right, it's a university, But he's
also using that word in a different way. He's saying
Earth is a universe city. It's one city in the universe,
and it's a school. It's a university campus. So everyone
on Earth belongs on the Earth campus. We share a university,
and we're taking different classes and studying different courses. He's
trying to get us to really look at the Earth
as one city and one campus and one school that
we're attending with all of these different kinds of lessons
and classes and experiences we can have and share with
one another to enrich our lives and learn our lessons
and grow and change. But it's about connecting like they
do on a university campus where you have different students
exchanging ideas. Oh, I learned this in this class, and
I learned this in this class, and oh, what kind
of class do you want to take? Oh, I want
to study this, I want to study that. So when
we start looking at the Earth that way literally as
a universe city, as a campus, as a school, then
we can start appreciating all the differences as just the
different classes that we're all taking in the different lessons
that we're all learning. But we're all part of the
same university, the same campus, you know, And that's how
the etc. Is.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you what Darryl with with the
with the ets or otherworldly beings if you will, that
are eventually going to be coming down here and really
not coming down, but that are already here, but they're
gonna make themselves out. Yeah, they make themselves known. How
does I mean from the movies that we've seen, obviously,
aliens have not got a pretty bad rap for the
most part on most of those sci fi films. But
I remember two movies off the top of my head,
and I'm curious on how like, technically, how is this
going to go down, Like, how is how is this
going to incorporate? How are they going to incorporate into us?
And things. So two movies that I can remember, and
you've probably seen them, Alien Nation back in the nineties.
That one was with James con was really interesting and
in District and exactly in District nine. Yeah, So that's
like incorporating aliens into America or in America, but humanity's
daily life, and it's just like another thing. How is
this really going to go down? From their point because
there's so much fear. There's so much fear.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think what's an interesting sign
is that the last three major alien contact movies have
all now been positive. You've got Arrival, which was positive. Yes,
you have Project Hail Mary, which was positive.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful movie.
Speaker 2: And now you have Disclosure Day, which ultimately is also
a positive alien contact movie. And so I think I'm
seeing that trend going in that direction. But in terms
of the technical approach to disclosure and to open contact,
I do think that it's going to happen in phases
to allow us to absorb and assimilate. You know, the
ets understand what we are and they understand how we react,
and they understand what our culture is about. They've been
observing us for a long time. They get it. They're
not going to do anything that is really totally disruptive.
They're going to give us an option to interact with them,
but they're not going to force us into anything because
they understand it's going to take us a while to
get used to the idea that we're not alone in
the universe. So this is one of the reasons why
I think disclosure and open contact is happening sooner than later,
because they know, according to the cycles and the timing,
that it's going to probably take us at least a
decade or two to get used to the idea of
the fact that we now have the option to interact
with extraterrestrials and receive whatever benefits they're capable of giving
to our society and absorbing all of that information. Because
different people, different cultures, different countries are going to react
very differently to open contact. Some will be very willing
to say yes, welcome on board, and others will probably
be saying no, we're going to close our borders and
we're going to deny the fact that the aliens are here.
Because we want to retain some kind of authoritarian power
and control over our population. And I think it's going
to take a couple of decades for all of that
to balance out, primarily because you've got a new generation
coming up. Once open contact occurs, then that new generation
who will be taking over the world in another two
decades will always have been exposed to the existence of
extraterrestrials and it won't be weird to them, so they'll
be more open as the old generation dies out. So
I think it'll take a couple of decades, but I
do think the aets will present themselves in phases, so
they might like allow their ships to be seen more closely,
to be on you know, we're already seeing a little
bit like, oh, here's the weather report on the news,
and now here's the UFO report. Today. We had this
sighting and we had that sighting. You know, let's discuss that.
So I think that's going to become more normal. I
think we're going to have real good shots of UFOs
on the news that people can get you. Yeah, here
it is. Here's applying saftware. It appeared over Buenos Aires today,
And here's fifty videos of that people took of this
ship and it's crystal clear, So you know what is
that people? You know, we won't be able to deny
it anymore in that sense, and then the introduction will
probably take place in some sort of you know, time release,
press conference or State of the Union or something along
that line. But I think what is going to happen
is the ETS are going to deal with or help
us deal with, different aspects of our society in phases.
So in other words, what's what's going to happen when
they show up with their knowledge and their experience and say,
what's going to happen with our economy? Okay, let's deal
with that. What are all the changes that might need
to happen with our economy once ETS are here? Now
we've got that under our belt. Okay, so maybe that
would take a year to figure out. Now, the e
teas are going to come in and say, okay, well,
what's going to happen now with your politics? And now
we have to absorb all those changes, and now what's
going to happen with this? And now what's going to
happen with this technology? And now what's going to happen
with this? So I think they're going to roll it
out in phases so that we have time to get
used to the idea of what it is they're capable
of showing us that in many cases is going to
change the way we look at things because they have
the ability to demonstrate and prove certain things that we've
been only speculating about in our society for a long
time because we have no real access to our history
and certain other kinds of things, but they may have
recordings of those things because they've been observing our planet
for so long. It's like, you want to know if
Atlantis existed, here's a holographic recording of it. You want
to see what the dinosaurs really look like, Here's a
holographic recording of it. And we're going, oh, wow, okay,
all those questions can be answered because they've been around
long enough to have observed us long enough to actually
have proof of what those things really were.
Speaker 1: And then also just on a processing standpoint, if someone said, hey,
do you want to see what the dinosaurs look like?
And someone shows you a holographic file a lah Clark
Kent or the Fortress of Solitude, or they show you Atlantis,
then you to start to wrap your the process that
because and they're like, oh, by the way, you have
you've been living in a cycle of destruction and rebirth
for the last two hundred and fifty thousand years. So
every ten thousand years or so, you reset yourselves, or
every twenty four if you do the Yuga cycles, every
twenty four yeah, twenty four thousand years, you reset yourself.
Here's a history of all of that. Oh, Dannaki, here's
what they were doing.
Speaker 2: Right, Kashia said, this is one of the things they're
going to give us as a gift in open contact
is our complete history. Here's a recording of your complete history.
Have fun, take a look.
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and now back to the show. That but that that
will end all religion, that will be up and up
and everything that we.
Speaker 2: Know, Yes and yes, but that doesn't mean that it
won't reinforce other aspects like spirituality and things like that.
So it's okay that certain things. I mean. That was
another thing that I really appreciated in Disclosure Day was
the fact of what the nun said to the novitiate.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it was beautiful.
Speaker 2: You know, It's like, you know, aren't we the supreme
creation it on Earth? That doesn't need There aren't other beings,
you know, so however they need to relate to it.
I don't think it's actually going to Yes, religion may
go away in the form that it is in now
in certain ways because we won't necessarily need the trappings
of it, but the core of it will never go away,
because the core of it is our spiritual connection to
the divine and that I think the ETS will actually
be capable of strengthening, and I think it will make
Earth a more overall, a more spiritual place and a
more connected place, because they also may have the technology
to actually be able to talk to spirits. And if
we can actually talk to people that were alive and
are now dead and actually go, hey, you know we're
still around, we're just in a different dimension, Well what
is that going to do? I mean, it's like, well,
now I can talk to Uncle Fred who's been dead
for ten years. Here he is, you know, and we
can have a conversation because the ETS brought us technology
that will allow us to do that. Well, now I
have a million questions for Uncle Fred. What's the afterlife
really like? And all that kind of stuff. Well, here
it is. This is the way it works. This is
what it's all about. Now we don't need a middleman.
We can talk to Uncle Fred the dead guy ourselves.
Speaker 1: You know, can so with all of this kind of
you know, upheaval if you will. I mean, this is
definitely stirring the pot all everything you just said. I
feel I find it wonderful. I think it's going to
be interesting. If this kind of technology, it'd be the
equivalent of going to the congo and going into a
village and taking an iPhone. I mean literally, that would
be It would look magical to them. This would look
magical to us.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. But if these ets are even a thousand years
ahead of us, let alone millions of years ahead of us,
they may have these ns of technologies and these abilities.
You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well of course, now why would But the biggest
question is why are they doing it? And why are
they doing this now? They've been watching us for hundreds
of thousands of years.
Speaker 2: Well, like you said, it does go in cycles, and
there are indications that they were among us many thousands
of years ago. All of our legends of the gods
and all this kind of stuff that we ascribe that
may actually have been representations of extraterrestrials, you know, with.
Speaker 1: Stargate, like Stargate, the movie Stargate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically that that theory. So if they come at
certain times, which according to them, are the natural cycles
of checking in with what's going on here, well we're
at that cycle again. That's why we're having disclosure. That's
why we're talking about open contact. It's like they were here.
Let's just say, you know, twelve five hundred years or
more ago when Atlantis was around. Now they're back. Maybe
that's the cycle. You know. It's like, well, we're going
to come around and check in every ten, twelve, twenty
four thousand years, and that's just what they do to
check in on the neighbors, check in on their family,
because in many cases we may actually be genetically related
to them. And it's like, you know, what are the
kids doing. Let's go check on the kids, you know.
And I make that analogy in jest, but also in
all seriousness, because it's kind of like, you know what, folks,
we're down here, a bunch of kids, and we're having
all these tantrums, and it's kind of time for the
adults to step in the room and say cut it out.
You need to grow up. So I think that's one
of the things that we will experience in open contact
is the adults are here. Now you've got to pay
attention because you're kind of trashing your room and we
can't allow you to trash this place. This is an
import school for souls and we're not going to allow
you to wreck it and ruin it. So you need
to learn some things, and you need to remember them,
you know, because you've obviously forgotten.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is is when you said that
there's another movie that's I think very positive in the
extraterrestrial space that doesn't get spoken about enough. Abyss, Yes,
And that's literally what they are. They're like, hey, hey, hey, everyone,
calm down down.
Speaker 2: You know you're not.
Speaker 1: The biggest boy in the block, right, relax kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much more that you have access to
when you just chill out and open up to what
the universe really has to offer it. Just get over
this whole fear based reality that you've created, which is
really just a massive illusion, because there is enough for everyone.
There has to be, it's just the way the universe works.
You just have to learn how to access it, and
you have to be okay with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean some of the stuff that the government
has started to release, which I assume is to try
to start getting us used to this whole scenario of
what it is. But some of the footage that you're
seeing and in congressional hearings, you know, because you know,
I'll be honest with you, Darrel. I mean, I haven't
spoken about this very often. Anytime it's ever come up
on the show, it's been because you, I trust you
and I love you. So You've mentioned it here and
there within our conversations, but I've never gone deep into
it because I grew up on the X files and
tinfoil hats and conspiracy theories and all of that kind
of stuff, and it just started to give was like,
you know what, I don't want to go there. But
now it's so in everyone's face, and the governments, governments
around the world are they're officially starting to put out
footage and videos and.
Speaker 2: Well, again they have to because I think they know
this is inevitable and there's nothing they can do to
stop it, so they have to position themselves to go
along with it in whatever way. Works for them and
makes them look like they're participating in the release of
the information that they've been holding onto forever, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I see, I saw some of these
vehicles flying in the air, and one of them, I
saw it got shot with a missile, like a big
ass missile, and it bounced, It bounced on They've never
no one the guy who shot it, and everyone was like,
we've never seen anything like that. Whatever it touches, it
at least explodes. It didn't explode. It was just kind
of like a and it just kind of like parts
of it wobbled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, parts of the parts of the missile I think
broke off the UFO wobbled a bit and then and
just course corrected and kept on going. And what was
interesting too, is I think we saw in that video
the pieces that came off the missile went with it,
like it was caught in the UFO's field, and the
pieces went with the UFO at least for a little bit.
So yeah, I mean, there's really nothing we can do
to them in that sense. I'm not worried about them
at all. The ets. They're so advanced, you know, and
even to the point of I think they're you know,
demonstrating in many ways like that video with the missile
bouncing off, there's nothing you can do. The incidents that
have happened several times where UFOs have positioned themselves over
nuclear missile silos and completely scramble the launch codes. It's like,
you're not going to have a nuclear war. We're not
going to allow it because that would ruin the campus.
You know, that would ruin the school. So they're willing
to allow us to learn our own lessons, but they're
not willing to allow us to destroy our ability to
learn any more lessons. The Earth is too valuable for that.
You know.
Speaker 1: Well, it's the equivalent of like, you know, a child,
like we'll let you learn your lesson, but we're not
going to let you walk off the edge of this building.
Speaker 3: You know of course that there are, yeah, there are
things we have to do to protect your ability to
be here in this school and learn what you came
to learn, and we can't just let you burn the
school down, you know.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you with the aliens or the
extraterrestrials who are coming in in the scope of the universe,
are there because everyone we're talking about in this conversation
are very positive, they're very advanced, they're here to help
us all that stuff. But if movies have taught us anything,
there are nefarious energies as well. Is that a thing?
And is there something protecting us all these years?
Speaker 2: Well? Yes, I mean it's not that there can't be
relatively negative entities out there, or simply entities who just
don't necessarily have our best interests at heart, or don't
even know about us and couldn't care less. But I
think that the ones that have been mostly dealing with
us are looking out for us and are keeping any
negative influences at bay, because again, this is an important
place to them for souls to learn and to grow,
and they don't want anything to happen to it, especially
at this very delicate time of transition into a new cycle.
So I think for the most part, they're keeping things
at bay. It doesn't mean that there aren't maybe negative
entities out there. The only other thing about that is,
you know, I don't think there are that many, because
once you allow your technology to take you into outer
space in the way that they do, I mean, what
would you actually need our planet for when you have
unlimited resources out in space that are probably a million
times greater than what you could find on Earth. There's
so much water, there's so many minerals. I mean, what
would you need to come to Earth to get that
you didn't have in another solar system that you easily
have access to.
Speaker 1: So they don't have a dollar fifty hot dogs. I mean,
you can't go.
Speaker 2: Exactly as we're conquering a planet for I mean, really,
when you stop and think about it, even on that
pragmatic level, it just doesn't make sense. It'd be like saying,
I'm going to ignore this pile of gold over here
to get one gold coin over there. It just doesn't
make sense pragmatically. On another level, I think that we
don't yet associate, because we have stagnated in this particular
area quite a bit. We don't associate the idea of
technological advancement with spiritual advancement. And I think that the
beings that really get out into space have learned what
the universe is really all about and are operating from
a completely different point of view about how we're all
connected and how things actually work. And I think we're
missing that component. We see it a little bit, and
I forget the name of the effect. But the astronauts
all experience that. Once they're out there and they're looking
back at Earth, they go through this profound change of
recognizing how everything is connected and how important it is
to preserve that and for humanity to go in a
more positive direction. So I think that when we really
have enough experience going out into space and looking back
at Earth and understanding the connections that exist between us
and other beings out there, I think, and you just
lose that idea of oh I need to be some
kind of a weird negative conqueror and take over this
and take over that. You just don't see things that
way anymore. From that perspective, you actually elevate to a
different way of looking at the universe. So I don't
think there are that many negative entities out there in space,
and the ones that may still be that way may
be more confined to their own world and aren't really
able to get here.
Speaker 1: It seems like you can't from my understanding, and please
correct me if I'm wrong, as we have evolved as
a species, and I use this example often, Alexander the
Great Genghis Khan. They didn't have machine guns or rocket
launchers or airplanes or anything like that, because they would
have or a bomb like the dub bomb, they would
have destroyed the planet with their mentality and their level
of consciousness. So as our consciousness grows, are we are
able to receive information about these higher end technology. So
like from the early nineteen hundred, these last one hundred
and twenty five years, we've made more advancements than the
last six thousand years, which is insane. We're used to it,
but as insane. So I'd imagine that's the same way
with aliens and another planet where they're like they if
they're able to travel through space, their consciousness has to
be at a level that the universe has given them
that kind of technology exactly.
Speaker 2: And that's why I think it's very important for us
to make that connection to them, because we need to
start seeing ourselves from their perspective, through their eyes, because
they see us very differently, and we need to understand
how powerful we are and how connected we are. And
once we do that, I think we will have a
very big shift in our behavior and based on how
we see ourselves, you know, because a lot of people
on Earth now don't see themselves as being very worthwhile.
There's a lot of issues of deservability and worthiness and
you know, stuff like that, and it just prevents us
from really knowing what we are as souls and how
powerful we are and how much we're exactly on a
soul level. Just like the ets, we have to see
ourselves from their perspective in order to really understand how
to behave differently.
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and now back to the show. What do they understand
about consciousness that we're still trying to grasp because obviously
they're more advanced consciously than we are, and that's a
large question.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, well, I think they understand that everything is consciousness.
Everything is aware in its own way. Consciousness is everywhere,
it is everything, it's We're made out of whatever you
want to call it. You know, God got us all
that is source existence, what have you. There is only
one thing to make everything from. I mean, I'm starting
to see more physical, more manifestations, more awareness of that
idea even on a physics, on a physics level, because
one of the things that Bashar has talked about before
many times that now certain quantum physicists are starting to
talk about is this idea that we're calling the single
electron theory, and that idea basically is that there is
only one electron in existence, not one kind of electron,
one electron, and that it has the capability of actually
moving at infinite speed and making it seem as if
there are multiple electrons, because we're actually seeing this same
electron appearing next to itself over and over and over again,
because it can move it infinite speed, because if there's
only one electron in existence, then there are no rules
that prevent it from moving as fast as it wants
to move. And if it can move it infinite speed,
then every single thing that we're looking at and everything
we are is all made from the same electron, building
itself up over and over again, interacting with itself in
multi dimensional ways. And so that's kind of a simplistic idea,
but it's an idea of looking at even physical reality
as actually being the product of one thing, and that
we really are, our bodies really are made out of
the same thing, literally as the computer I'm looking at,
as the desk I'm sitting in front of, as the chair,
as the floor, as the house, as the planet, as
the trees, it's literally the same electron in the ultimate
time sharing reality of forming everything in the universe because
it can move at infinite speed and therefore can play
all the roles that needs to play in building up
the atomic structures that we perceive. So you know, even
on that level, we're starting to see that everything, maybe
one thing, everything is connected. Consciousness is simply the idea
that it's aware of itself. Richard sort of used the
analogy of a cake to sort of describe this. If
you have a slice of cake. If I give you
a slice of cake and you decide you want to
analyze what's in it, and you say, well, I have
analyzed it, and there is there. I found that there
is egg in there, and milk in there, and flour
in there, and chocolate in there and what have you sugar. Well,
if you have a slice of cake and it has
all those things, then that means the whole cake must
also have had all those things. Right. If we're conscious,
the whole must be conscious because we're a slice of
the hole. So the ingredients we exhibit, even though it
might be exhibited differently in different aspects of existence, we
still contain self aware consciousness that must mean that in
some way, shape or form, So does the whole of existence.
It's one of the ingredients of existence is this self awareness.
So we are conscious, it is conscious, Everything is aware,
and everything is made out of whatever that material is,
whatever that consciousness is.
Speaker 1: Are there universal laws that prevent advanced civilizations from interfering
in our business?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, because again everything is in a sense sacrosanct.
Everything is. You know, every soul makes a decision for
what lessons it wants to learn and what it wants
to experience. And in a sense that is all of
the different aspects that we are of source of existence.
We are all unique. We're all unique pieces of the
whole puzzle picture. And you can't change the shape of
that puzzle piece. It is what it is. So if
that puzzle piece, being an individual, whatever that is, is
saying what I am, requires that I choose to learn
things this way, well, nothing can really violate that. So
it's kind of like recognizing that every way in which
something can be done or learned or experienced is a
part of the whole. There is no reason to change it,
there's no reason to violate it. Now you can share
information that may be something that's important for that particular
unique puzzle piece to absorb as part of its journey.
But you have to let that puzzle piece or that
individual decide that that is correct for it. You can't
decide that for it. So the idea is to understand
the absolute respect and the absolute recognition that everything everyone
is doing and experiencing is part of that path of
that unique individual and is important for the overall experience
of existence for that to happen or to experience itself
that way as that piece of itself, So there is
no reason to change it or force it to change.
There is only an exchange of information that allows it
to know there are different options. If it is relevant
for that individual to choose that, you're giving them the
option to increase their ability to express more of the
uniqueness that they are. And therefore there's just no reason
to force anything on anyone.
Speaker 1: Darrel, let me ask you because I've I just literally
had a a mystic from India in the studio the
other day and we were talking about disclosure because I'm
wanting to get his point of view about it. His
point of view, you know, he's very frank about it.
He's like, there are family. They are who we are.
It's like their family. They're like old old relatives coming in.
But I found it very interesting coming from a Indian yogi,
a master saying these things. It was just finally fascinating.
But then as you do more research, you realize the
Baga deavita is aliens all in that thing everywhere.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, a lot of our ancient texts
are actually talking about extraterrestrials. We've just been calling them gods,
you know, for whatever reason. But yeah, I mean, and
I can describe the idea of our genetic connection at
least in a couple of ways, and that is the idea.
I mean, let me back up. You know a lot
of scientists have an issue with the idea of a
lot of the reports when people say they've encountered some
kind of extraterrestrial being, and they say, well, why are
all these reports talking about how these aliens look so
much like us? They're humanoid, they have a head, two eyes,
to arms, two legs. Why do these aliens look so
much like us? And I think that's backwards. They don't
look like us, we look like them. So the idea
is that either through deliberate seeding of DNA from the
extraterrestrials to Earth, or through the device that we know
of as panspermia, where genetic material comes on asteroids and comets,
crashes into the Earth, somehow survives and thrives and evolves.
So I think we don't quite understand yet the mechanisms
of how genetic material is spread throughout the galaxy, either
deliberately or through natural means, that cause certain pockets of
the galaxy to develop life that is similar on different planets. So,
either again deliberately, that would obviously make it similar. Because
if I'm taking some DNA from myself and putting it
on another planet, well yeah, there will be environmental things
that will make it look a little different than I look,
but it's probably still going to follow the same basic
template if the conditions are correct, So I would expect
it to look somewhat humanoid. And again, if panspermia is
delivering genetic material to different areas in the galaxy, that's
the same genetic material. When it finds similar conditions on
one planet to another, it's probably going to follow a
template and have something that looks similar. Now, yeah, I'm
sure there are aliens that look nothing like us at
all in different parts of the universe, but that's a
different genetic spread, it's a different genetic you know, release
of that material. So sure, there's going to be both.
They're going to be ones that look like us that
are probably genetically related to us very closely, and they're
going to be those that are not like us at
all and will be not even distant cousins. So yeah,
I think the ones that we're dealing with that look
a lot like us are family literally genetically connected to us.
And I think that's one of the things that's going
to happen in open contact, is they understand that. Let's say,
you know, people have said, well, you know, Palladians supposedly
look a lot like us, they're like distant cousins. And
I think they're going to be one of the first
extraterrestrials that are aside from a hybrid extraterrestrials combination of
human and other you know, being like a gray I
think they're going to be one of the first to
reveal themselves because we're not going to freak out so
much if they look a little bit like us. It's
easier to take. It's easier to absorb. It's like, Okay, well,
you know they're not that different, so I guess we
can get used to them. So I think they're going
to deliberately roll out that way too. They're going to
introduce the ones that look more like us first, and
then they're going to overtime introduce us to ones that
don't look like us, because now we'll be used to
the idea that the ones that don't look like us
don't want to harm us either, And oh, well, you
guys are friends with them, so I guess we can
be friends, you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, before the palladians will come, before the predators come,
is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I don't think the predators themselves. I understand
that the different you know, species may have different agendas
and all that, and even when we talk about things
like the grays, I don't think we're lumping them all
into one category. I think there are different factions of
grays that have different understandings and different agendas. So I
think first we're going to be told who the hybrid
extraterrestrials are that have been living and working among us
for decades and helping us move forward with technology in
certain other areas of discipline. And then we'll be able
to interact with them. And then maybe the more pure
extraterrestrials like the Pleadians and so on and so forth,
will then reveal themselves as well, once we're used to
the fact that hybrid extraterrestrials have among us for so
long that we don't even blink an eye that they're here,
you know.
Speaker 1: Very much like a Destrict nine or an alien nation
kind of scenario, that they're just here and they're just yeah,
they're partners. There are partners.
Speaker 2: We will be told who they are so we can
interact with them openly. That's one of the first phases
I believe of open contact. These are the beings that
have been among you all this time. Now you can
open you can openly address them and interact.
Speaker 1: With One thing I found fascinating I was thinking the
other day that you know, on Earth there is an
endless I mean literally uncalculable experiences that a soul can have,
I mean the different combinations of circumstances, religions, speech.
Speaker 2: That's what makes this tool so unique.
Speaker 1: It's very powerful. But then I was thinking, because I've
spoken about this with near death experiences and mystics as well,
and even mediums who speak to the other side, that
they say that we obviously we're not the only show
in town. There are billions and billions of other shows.
So the experiences of a soul doesn't have to be
through human and that's very difficult. That's a big concept
for people to understand. So can you talk a little
bit about the concept of reincarnation in the sense that like,
because I've heard from people who've read me, they're like,
you've been on Earth a lot. You love Earth, and
you've been here a lot because you've experienced it. Because
but you've done this elsewhere you've gone to because those
experiences on other planets, as other species in other scenarios
give a whole other set different lessons. It's like even
get here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like I said, it's like going to another university.
You know, I'm going to Harvard instead of Yale today.
It's like I'm going to go to another school. It's
because there are different kinds of lessons to learn and
different experiences to have on different planets, which are different
cities in the universe, different schools in the universe. So
of course a soul has the freedom to choose whatever.
So you know, maybe you know you can have five
incarnations or twenty incarnations or two hundred incarnations on some
planet in the Palladian systems, and then you decide, you
know what, I think my next incarnation, I'd like to
explore what's going on on Earth, and you decide to
have an incarnation here.
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Speaker 2: The soul is free to do that. And by the way,
that's really the difference in the terminology between an old
soul and a new soul. It's not about the age
of the soul. Souls are all the same age. They're eternal.
The idea of a new soul and an old soul
is how many incarnations you've had on a particular planet
or a particular reality. So let's say you decide that
you're coming to Earth, and may you've maybe you've tried
Earth incarnations ten times, but maybe there are souls that
have had a thousand Earth incarnations. That's an old soul
because they're more experienced about Earth, and you're a new
soul because you only have ten incarnations on Earth, but
that doesn't mean you might not have had ten thousand
incarnations somewhere else. So it's old soul. New soul is
about the amount of experience you have in a particular place.
Has nothing to do with the age of the soul itself,
and has to do with the kind of experience you
have in a particular reality.
Speaker 1: Is open contact going to be a catalyst for the
greatest spiritual awakening humanity has ever had?
Speaker 2: I think so, yes, well absolutely, because again, beings that
are as advanced as some of these ets appear to
be are operating on an energy frequency level that is
very similar to spirit. In fact, I think that's one
of the things that causes us a little trepidation when
we encounter them, is we pick up on this vibration
they're giving off, this energy frequency they're giving off that
is so close to the idea of the frequency of
spirit of non physical reality, that when exposed to that frequency,
our primitive brain interprets that as if we're about to die,
because it represents the spirit realm, and so we back
away and we're afraid because we go into survival mode.
We going to fight or flight mode. So I think
that's one of the things that we have to get
used to and why Bashar has been saying, you need
to meet us halfway. You need to upgrade your frequency.
You need to raise that frequency so that you're not
so different and energetically from us, so that you're more
compatible with us, because you have this reaction to that
high vibration, as if exposure to us is going to
annihilate you. It's not. It's just that that's the way
you react to spirit energy because you're so compartmentalized and
your vibrational frequency is so low that it's like he's
used the analogy of like we're a very slow spinning
gear and they're a very high speed gear, and if
you bring those two things together, you're going to strip
the gears. So you have to speed up to be
more compatible, so the gears can mesh and so that
there is no damage done to our psyche. We don't
go into psychic shock because we're exposed to something that
to us represents death the afterlife, because we have such
a fear of death instead of just understanding that we're
just transitioning to our natural state, which is a soul.
Speaker 1: But it sounds when you said that that it sounded
almost like ayahuasca or psilocybin or one of those things
that you you're so opened up and you and you're
you are throwing the slow and the fast years are
thrown together that you feel like you're going to die.
So many people.
Speaker 2: Exactly on that, exactly exactly. But when you get used
to that, that doesn't happen anymore. So you have to
accept the higher frequency as something that is more representative
of your natural soul vibration. And in fact, there's something
very interesting about the latest uh Dan Brown book. You're
familiar with, yeah, individual, but his latest is The Secret
of Secrets. That's his latest book. And yes it's a
fictional story, but the research behind the story is real,
and it's all about what is consciousness right, And one
of the things that he talks about in there is
the idea that you know, the what Mishar calls the
teachers of the Earth, you know, like ayahuasca, DMT, things
like that, that give you these expanded experiences, these expanded perspectives.
He's basically saying that in the human body, there's this
chemical called gamma amino butyic acid. It goes by the
acronym GABBA gaba gamma amino butyic acid, and this chemical
acts like a filtering system to filter out most of
what we don't need from our reality perception. So when
you take one of those drugs, that's a more natural representation.
He's saying, you're not hallucinating, you're seeing more of what
is actually there in reality. That's a huge, huge difference
in the way you look at what's happening in those experiences.
It's opening you up, it's dropping the GABBA in your system,
it's removing the filter, and it's allowing you to actually
see more of what's actually there that we simply don't
normally process. So, yeah, that's a big difference, and I
think that's one of the things that happens in the channelings,
and I think it's one of the things that happens
in exposure to beings of higher frequency. It's like taking
a drug. It lowers the filter and we start seeing
more of reality. And most people can't handle that. They're
not ready to process that. So we have to do
it in steps. We have to get used to it.
Speaker 1: So in that Dan Brown book The Secrets of Secrets,
you're saying that what he that's that's what he said
in the book, right.
Speaker 2: That is what he said in the book, and it's
based on real research, So.
Speaker 1: That's research that so all of that is some real research.
So that makes a lot of sense because there's if
you just look throughout our reality right now, there's things
that are happening right now around us that we have
no ability to connect with or even observe. Radio waves,
gamma rays, microwaves, all that stuff's been there forever gravity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not even the stuff that's typically invisible to us.
Even our scientists know that. Just in terms of processing
what is physically around us, we're already filtering out like
probably ninety percent of it just so we can get
along and have a day and do our business without
going crazy. So we already have a whole bunch of
these filters and blinders on us just so we can
have a quote unquote normal life, because if we could
actually see more of what's going on, I mean, we
would just be like, I'm going to be staring at
that tree for the next twelve hour just because of
all the I can see.
Speaker 1: What happens when people go on that kind.
Speaker 2: Of exactly because there's more of what's actually happening there
than it prevents you from living the life you chose
to live to learn your lessons. You just that's why,
you know.
Speaker 1: So they just sit there like, hey man, so let's
just what are you saying?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Like you see those you see those in movies, you
see those in stories, and you see like I've actually
seen friends of mine who've done that that you'd like
literally have a conversation with a plan absolutely for seven
hours exactly.
Speaker 2: Because you can. Because the filter is down, you're not hallucinating,
you're seeing more of what's there.
Speaker 1: So then and then is it our job, not our job,
but is it our evolution to eventually continuously bring down
that veil and see the man behind the curtain as
in odds, slowly but surely, so we can accept all
of that, so we can just get a more full experience.
Speaker 2: It's bringing more of your soul through the physical form.
It's in a sense bringing heaven down to Earth, not
running away from Earth to get to Heaven. Bringing that
energy down to Earth and having Earth be more of
a representation of the soul's purer energy. Yeah, that's in
a sense our job.
Speaker 1: How can we mitigate the insane amount of fear that
humanity has about not only disclosure but generally because it's
one of the biggest things that is hurting us, is
this fear.
Speaker 2: Well, we have to understand how belief systems work and
why we choose to believe what we believe. And this
is where Bashar is very good at delivering tools that
allow us to get in touch with understanding our psychology,
how it works, and how we can change it more easily.
Recently this has been interesting. You know, he's referred to
himself for a long time as a first contact specialist,
but recently he's actually been saying, but what being a
first contact specialist means is I'm actually a diplomatic psychologist.
I understand how human psychology actually works. Here's the mechanism,
and when you want to change from a negative, fear
based belief to a more positive one, this is how
the system works. This is what belief systems are. This
is how you get in touch with what they are,
how you get in touch with why you're buying into
what you're buying into, and how you change it. So
we all have to understand what that process is, how
to get in touch with whatever we believe to be
true about ourselves, why we believe it to be true,
why it's just a story that we're telling ourselves, and
how we can change the story. So he's very good
at delivering information that actually allows us, gives us a
toolkit to go through that process, let go of the
fear based beliefs and not be afraid of choosing something different.
That's the big thing is a lot of times beliefs
because they're designed to perpetuate themselves so you can have
a physical experience. We'll do things to make you not
want to let them go because that's all they're trying
to do is perpetuate themselves so you can continue to
have a physical experience. So when we don't care what
the positive beliefs tell us because we enjoy that. But
the fear based beliefs can only use fear based tools.
So the fear based belief is saying, if you stop
believing in this thing, I'm going to make something worse happen.
So stay where you are. Don't let that go, because
even though you know this isn't necessarily your best option,
it's safer to stay where you are. If you go
and try to follow your passion, you go and try
to live your dream. Oh so many bad things could
happen that you're better off just not trying, and then
you never try. So you have to hear that as
a story that the belief is telling you, so you
won't let it go as a self perpetuating mechanism instead
of hearing it as a fact as inevitable, because it's not.
It's just a story. It doesn't mean that it's actually
true that something worse is going to happen. And you
can prove that to yourself by being willing to know
that that's just a story and that I prefer a
different story and take the action that is representative of
the different story and see that you actually get a
different result. And it's not about, oh, something's going to
be horrible is going to happen to me because I
did this. That's just part of the story that keeps
you in the fear based belief, because that's what fear
based beliefs do to perpetuate themselves, because you have to
have a belief in something being true in order to
have a physical reality experience, because physical reality isn't real,
it's an illusion, it's a projection. Of consciousness. So it's
our belief systems that make physical reality seem solid because
it uses emotions and thought processes and behaviors to get
a reflection that reinforces the belief. So a belief, both
positive and negative, have to use emotions to make you
feel that what it's telling you is real, to make
you think that what it's telling you is real, and
to get you to behave as if what's telling you
what it's telling you is real, so that you get
the reflection that what you just did is real because
you get a reflection of what you put out because
reality is just a mirror, so it's just showing you
this is what you believed in. You bought into this,
You behaved as if you felt like you knew it
was real, You thought it was real, You behaved as
if it was real. Therefore you get the reflection that
it's real because whatever we say is what reality is.
So you just have to understand that mechanism and then
you can change it.
Speaker 1: One thing that you would like to say to people
about disclosure to put them either at ease or to
get them to understand what's going to happen with open contact.
The first open contact. What would that be.
Speaker 2: These beings are part of our family. We are part
of their family. This is a chance to go from
being Homo sapiens to Homo galacticus. It's part of our evolution.
This is what we have collectively decided is important for
our species to understand at this point, is that we
are not and never have been alone, and it's now
time to meet our cousins. It's now time to meet
the rest of the family. And in a sense, it's
a family reunion. It's not going to be something that
is going to harm us. It is something that is
going to allow us to expand and to grow and
to learn and to become more of who we truly
are at as souls. It's going to help us get
in touch with ourselves. It's going to help us understand
how to do things for the benefit of humanity of everyone,
and it's going to allow us to experience, ultimately in
time over the next few decades, truly experience heaven on Earth.
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Speaker 2: It's our birthright to do so, and it's okay to
engage with that. Nothing is going to happen other than
more revelation of what we are and who we are
as aspects of all that is so kind of in
a sense, not meaning to mean this in a mean way.
We need to get over ourselves.
Speaker 1: Then some my friend, and then I wanted to ask
you this, do you do you believe because in the
last one hundred years, specifically one hundred hundred and twenty
five years or so, there has been an explosion of
the sci fi basically genre that was there was before
h It was HG. Wells, if I'm not mistaken, who started?
Speaker 2: Yeah? HG. Wells and Jules Verne and yeah.
Speaker 1: Those guys those were the ones that started, and then
they inspired.
Speaker 2: Yes and no, because there are actually some ancient tales
that do lend.
Speaker 1: Them Bagata vita perfect.
Speaker 2: But of course, in a sense they may not have
actually been describing science fiction. They may have actually been
describing real events, but we read it as science fiction.
But yes, there's been a resurgence of those ideas. Again,
I think as preparation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you, do
you believe that that like people like George Lucas or
Gene Roddenberry, which due to the Giant French or James Cameron,
who get these kind of ideas, not implanted, but they
inspired the access.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see, the thing of it is is you
only get what you're on the level of vibrationally, So
people that are willing to act on their passion and
be creative have the ability to access information that's available
to the ETS as well, and they bring down ideas
that can help because again unconsciously, on the collective unconscious level,
we know that we chose to have these experiences of
open contact at this time in our lives. So we're
going to have different people accessing different things, whether consciously
or not, that are going to fall in line as
part of our preparation to get used to this idea.
You know, like I said, anyone born after nineteen sixty
nine knows we've always been in space. That's not unusual
for that generation. And when ETS make open contact, anyone
born after that is going to know we've always interacted
with extraterrestrials and that's not unusual. That's the way it is.
That's normal. So with each of those exposures to different ideas, Yeah,
there could be extraterustrial life, and yes, we've discovered all
these exoplanets, and now we're considering that, you know, maybe
it's possible aliens can get here. The math says it
might be possible. We may not have the technology, but
the math says it's doable. We can actually travel the stars.
Maybe there's wormholes we can go through that make shortcuts
for us. We're now considering all these different things that
start erasing all the objections we had to this in
the past. So yeah, I think on whatever level, whether
it's conscious, unconscious, or what have you, collectively we have
been preparing ourselves for this to happen because this is
the next great leap in the evolution of humanity.
Speaker 1: And what part does Mars play in all of this?
Is there a part that Mars has played in the
past or we'll play in the future for humanity?
Speaker 2: I think so. I do think there was a civilization
a long time ago on Mars, and I think in
some ways we may be the Martians. You know, material
from Mars we know has been traveled to Earth based
on meteoric bombardment on the planet, that is, shot debris
into space. Some of those Martian asteroids and meteors have
landed on Earth. It might have brought genetic material from
those civilizations to Earth and we may actually be the Martians.
That's one theory. I don't know there's any proof of
that at the moment. But again on a soul level,
I think again there may have been a civilization that
souls incarnated into. Now that that civilization is no longer there,
now they can incarnate on Earth. I think Earth is
like a real melting pot for different stories. Maybe the
idea of Atlantis redoing itself and coming to a more
positive conclusion because it was destroyed. Maybe the Martian civilization's
story playing out on Earth because it got destroyed and
looking for a better outcome. Maybe the ancient Oriyan civilizations
of oppression and suppression or playing out on Earth. I
think there's so many stories. This is what makes Earth
as a school so unique, is there are so many
exchange students from so many different places in the cosmos
playing out a story here, finding a way to make
that story have a more positive ending. And I think
that's why some things are just so chaotic here. Is
just you have so many different things going on from
so many different places that it's a real melting pot
of the cosmos, and that's one of the things that
makes Earth so unique and so valuable.
Speaker 1: Daryl, Where can people find out more about you and
the amazing work you're.
Speaker 2: Doing, anything that Bishar has been talking about. They can
certainly go to Bishar dot org Bashar dot org. If
they want to find out how I'm following my passion
with the escape room that my wife and I have
in Los Angeles, they can go to Boggled escape Rooms
dot com b O G g l ed Boggled escape
Rooms dot com and they can come here and listen
to us chat yes, and and and for people who
go to the escape room, there might be a chance
that you have a sighting of Daryl himself.
Speaker 1: Maybe not always there. You're a busy man, but every
once in a while, you know, you know, you're a gomer,
you're the game master every once in a while.
Speaker 2: Which is every once in a while.
Speaker 1: It's trippy. It's trippy, for sure. And do you have
any final words for the audience about disclosure, about where
we are, what's happening in the world, anything you'd like
to say to leave everybody.
Speaker 2: Well, again, just I think now we're at a point
where this is really inevitable, and I think that it's
important to to be more of who you are, to
be more prepared and vibrationally compatible with the idea that
humanity is going through a very large evolutionary transition and transformation,
and that's just what the times are all about. It's
all about transformation and transition. So I think we need
to go with that flow, and I think things will
be much easier if we just become more of who
we are, because really, the toughest thing in the world,
even though we think the opposite, is trying to be
someone we're not, and everyone tries to do that. We're
always told be this, be that, you have to do this,
you have to do it that way. There's a unique
path for everyone, because we are all unique. You just
have to find that path and know that it'll work
for you. So being yourself is the most important thing,
and it will bring you everything you need to fulfill
you in life, including what's going on collectively with all
of us.
Speaker 1: My friend, it is always a pleasure and honor speaking
to you, my brother from another mother. I appreciate you
so much, my friend, and thank you again for everything
that you're doing.
Speaker 2: Measure to speak with you always. I really appreciate the doorway,
the window that you've created for conversations like this. I
think that's a really important part of the work of
sharing information to help people prepare for the changes that
are coming up. So I applaud what you're doing as well.
It's extremely crucial.
Speaker 1: So thank you, appreciate you, my friend.
Speaker 2: Thank you you too, Hie.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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