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<v Speaker 3>He was the first and he's still the best. For

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years, Tom Gresham has been your trusted source on

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<v Speaker 3>all things ballistic, new guns, Second Amendment, personal protection. Be

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<v Speaker 3>part of it, Paul, Tom Talk Gun. Now here's Tom.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, welcome again to gun Talk.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna talk about a lot of things today and

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<v Speaker 5>you can be a part of that. All you have

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<v Speaker 5>We got a lot of news going on. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 5>We've got things coming out of the government where.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going to say, all right, you can apply.

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<v Speaker 5>Finally, if you have a felony record, nonviolent felony record,

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<v Speaker 5>you did your time, whatever it was, you can apply

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<v Speaker 5>to get your gun rights back. Thank goodness, we've been

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<v Speaker 5>working on that for thirty years or so. It's an

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<v Speaker 5>amazing thing. We also, of course have the new thing

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<v Speaker 5>where not only do you not have to pay the

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<v Speaker 5>tax on your suppressor, but now you don't have to file.

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<v Speaker 4>The Form four Form one all.

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<v Speaker 5>The rest of it. You can make your own. You

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<v Speaker 5>can buy a suppressor, but with restrictions. We've got to

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<v Speaker 5>go into the details on that. A lot of other

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<v Speaker 5>things going on we'll be talking about. And of course

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<v Speaker 5>if you have a new gun or an old gun

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<v Speaker 5>you aren't talked about, give me a call. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 5>about that as well.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know that we have classes down at Range

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<v Speaker 5>Ready Studios. A lot of people have been down there

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<v Speaker 5>and it's a When you say it's a unique place,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a shooting range. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's more than that.

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<v Speaker 5>Joining me right now because he is going to be

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<v Speaker 5>one of the instructors of one of the coolest classes.

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<v Speaker 4>We've ever had there, Travis Gibson joint us right now.

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<v Speaker 6>How you doing, partner, I'm doing good, Tom, Thanks so

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<v Speaker 6>much for having me back.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, So you you have been down to the

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<v Speaker 5>place down in Louisiana, Range right and Yeah, you've been

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<v Speaker 5>to ranges literally all over the country pro probably around

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<v Speaker 5>the world, and you're a professor shooter.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been doing this forever. But this is a different place,

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<v Speaker 4>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it very much is.

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<v Speaker 6>It's got a it's got a lot of cool features,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of stuff that you know, other other facilities

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<v Speaker 6>don't have, with with you know, Ryan doing the show

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<v Speaker 6>down there, the you know, the television show, and being

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<v Speaker 6>able to go and film here and then go outside

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<v Speaker 6>and shoot stuff, and yeah, it's it's it's a it.

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<v Speaker 7>Really is a great unique facility.

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<v Speaker 4>And you also eat pretty well on these classes there.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I make sure and gone a diet about ten

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<v Speaker 6>days before I head out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we feed the students really well. All right, So

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<v Speaker 5>we got this class coming up and I'm looking, this

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<v Speaker 5>is the coolest thing, all right. We got Colt so

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<v Speaker 5>it's an ar class and they got the M five rifle,

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<v Speaker 5>their new M five gonna I'm going to shoot those

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<v Speaker 5>for two days. And it's you and your son, Wyatt.

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<v Speaker 5>This is like the coolest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a it's well, as you well know, getting

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<v Speaker 6>to getting to do cool stuff with guns with your

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<v Speaker 6>kids is always a good time, and and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>we uh, Colt's been or I'm sorry why it's been

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<v Speaker 6>shooting with Colt for I don't even know how many

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<v Speaker 6>years now. It's it's been a little while, but I've

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<v Speaker 6>been coming and helping with a couple of classes and

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<v Speaker 6>stuff like that, and so uh on this one's you know,

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<v Speaker 6>kind of the you know why, and I will be

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<v Speaker 6>teaching the rifle stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>And just kind of going, uh, you know, I mean it's.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to say it's a it's a you know,

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<v Speaker 6>an entry level class, but I mean it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 6>of get you going on the basics, but there's portions

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<v Speaker 7>That kind of get off onto the you know, into

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<v Speaker 7>the deep end. We're going to be doing some higher

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<v Speaker 7>level stuff there. So it's, uh, we're looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 5>We should probably explain that, you know why, it is

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<v Speaker 5>actually third generation the same way that Ryan is my son,

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<v Speaker 5>because your dad is a shooter obviously. Okay, go ahead

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<v Speaker 5>and tell about.

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<v Speaker 6>Your op Okay, So, so my dad's my dad's Mike Gibson,

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<v Speaker 6>and he started MGM Targets in nineteen ninety two, when

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<v Speaker 6>when you know his background is in structural steel fabrication

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<v Speaker 6>and just my my my uncle is actually the one

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<v Speaker 6>that introduced my dad into competitive shooting. And my dad,

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<v Speaker 6>my dad started figuring this out, and of course he

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<v Speaker 6>goes to the range and just being the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the kind of guy that is, he's looking at targets

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<v Speaker 6>trying to figure out way to make him better, make

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<v Speaker 6>him last longer, make them more durable, all that sort

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<v Speaker 6>of stuff. And then when he figured out you could

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<v Speaker 6>write off the guns and amma was a business expense,

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<v Speaker 6>it was all downhill from there.

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<v Speaker 5>So you guys makes up the very best steel targets

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<v Speaker 5>in the business man.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, well thanks Tom. Yeah, it's uh, we've been doing

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<v Speaker 7>it for a little while. And I can't even remember.

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<v Speaker 6>I was talking with somebody the other day and literally

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<v Speaker 6>it was last weekend. I was shooting the Idaho State

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<v Speaker 6>Handgun Championships over in eastern Idaho, and I'm still going

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<v Speaker 6>out looking at targets, like.

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<v Speaker 7>Can we do this, can we do that? What what

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<v Speaker 7>can we do to? You know?

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<v Speaker 6>And it was our time and I'm still looking at

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<v Speaker 6>him trying to figure out if there's any way we

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<v Speaker 6>can make them better.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you looking at your targets at a range at

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<v Speaker 5>a match and say, yeah, but I think there's a

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<v Speaker 5>way we can do something a little better here.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, me just always always trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>be innovative and look at stuff and yeah, make make

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<v Speaker 6>changes if we need to, always moving forward. And the

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<v Speaker 6>thing that made me happy was I couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 6>any way to make it better.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's still still doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. So when did you shoot your first competitive match?

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<v Speaker 6>I shot my first match, and I'm trying to say

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<v Speaker 6>it was like December of two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, man, you've been doing this in a while,

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<v Speaker 5>and of course you know you are a top level.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean at these matches, it's like, yeah, we know

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<v Speaker 5>Travis is going to be right there at the very top,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, any given time. But taking that and then

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<v Speaker 5>looking at Wyatt, that guy is like a superhuman shooter.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah he's And the thing of it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>and now with that being said, like like the kid's

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<v Speaker 6>been shooting with me since he was six, literally was

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<v Speaker 6>how old do you know when he went and shot

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<v Speaker 6>his first match. So he's been shooting almost as long

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<v Speaker 6>as I have. And he doesn't have bad.

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<v Speaker 7>Knees and bad eyes. You know, and so he's getting

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<v Speaker 7>around really good.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, put a lot of put a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>effort in the beginning, so he's yeah, he's doing a

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<v Speaker 6>great job, all right.

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<v Speaker 5>So one of the things that's so cool about this

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<v Speaker 5>class to do it range right now. People can go

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<v Speaker 5>to range ready studios dot com, sign up, you take

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<v Speaker 5>the class, You get two days a really good shoot.

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<v Speaker 5>You can walk in knowing just a little bit about

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<v Speaker 5>RS and come away knowing a lot about RS.

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<v Speaker 4>But not only do you get the training, the AMO.

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<v Speaker 5>Is provided, the accessories are provided, the rifle is provided,

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<v Speaker 5>the optic is provided. Oh yeah, at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the day, you get to keep the rifle and you

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<v Speaker 5>get to keep the optic, and you get to keep

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<v Speaker 5>all the other stuff that you were using. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you just simply get everything and the instruction. It's spectacular.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is This will be the second one of

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<v Speaker 6>these that I've been involved with with Cold and the

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<v Speaker 6>first ones was with the pistols. So we did a

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<v Speaker 6>nineteen eleven nine mil with the Vortex red dot on

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<v Speaker 6>it and kind of did the same thing and Release

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<v Speaker 6>and Justine with Colt were right down there helping Wyatt.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's uh, yeah, it was, like I said.

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<v Speaker 7>Holsters Magazines, Ammo, you know, the whole nine yards. It was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a great event, and I'm really looking forward

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<v Speaker 6>to this one as well.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the things I think about that people don't

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<v Speaker 5>quite understand maybe is the whole idea of the low

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<v Speaker 5>powered variable optic the lpv O. Uh. This one, we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to be using the Voodoo X from EO techts

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<v Speaker 5>a one to six, and I know that everybody wants

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<v Speaker 5>high magnification because they're shooting long range, but with a

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<v Speaker 5>one to six you could do a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk about that.

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<v Speaker 6>When I first started shooting, like I remember Loo pulled

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<v Speaker 6>out a c QT one to three and like that

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<v Speaker 6>was the rage, like, oh man, you got they've got

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<v Speaker 6>this new thing that's coming out.

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<v Speaker 7>And then they started getting up and they couldn't find

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<v Speaker 7>her true one power. They went from one.

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<v Speaker 6>And a half to five was kind of the next

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<v Speaker 6>new hotness, and now they're getting you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 6>one to six is you know, like that's just you know, everybody's.

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<v Speaker 7>Kind of got those.

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<v Speaker 6>And so what what folks has started doing is started

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<v Speaker 6>starting to really work on the glass, making sure it's got.

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<v Speaker 7>A good site picture Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>And the other thing is good radicals, right, making sure

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<v Speaker 6>that you've got to so when you're on six power

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<v Speaker 6>and most of these, most of these are the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the I.

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<v Speaker 7>Was get these two mixed up.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm pretty sure it's second focal plane to where the

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<v Speaker 6>the the radical changes size with the uh, with the

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<v Speaker 6>power of magnification power. But yeah, making sure that those

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<v Speaker 6>things lined up and you know, and they fit. Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a good range of ballistics on the your

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<v Speaker 6>ammo something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>That may be first vocal plane. But I always have

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<v Speaker 5>to look it up. I get them confused too, So there.

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<v Speaker 7>You very well could be right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Like like I said, I gotta I got to

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<v Speaker 6>look it up as well. But yeah, just having those things,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, having good radicals in them to where you know,

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<v Speaker 6>engaging you know, honestly, like twelve inch plates out to

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<v Speaker 6>five or six hundred yards is not a big deal

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<v Speaker 6>with a six power scope with a six power scope

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<v Speaker 4>So why would somebody want one power scope.

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<v Speaker 6>right for just you know, doing close stuff. Uh. That's

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<v Speaker 6>the other thing that a lot of these companies are doing.

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<v Speaker 7>That we're going to be using a lot. But what

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<v Speaker 6>These companies are doing is they're putting a nice red

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<v Speaker 6>Yeap, it really is, you know, And that's I don't

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<v Speaker 7>But that's that's what.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I've got on most of my guns is

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<v Speaker 5>One, Yeah, but that one gives you both eyes open,

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<v Speaker 5>fat actually faster than iron sights. It's just amazing and

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah for defense guy, you know, an n AR with

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<v Speaker 6>a sling. Like you're that's pretty set up. That's pretty

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned sling.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it most certainly is, and it's and it's something

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously I didn't understand it either, and I went to

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<v Speaker 6>a law enforcement class that I was fortunate enough to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to partake in, even though it wasn't law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 6>put on by a guy named Benny Cooley, who is

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<v Speaker 6>But I went down there and took a took a

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<v Speaker 6>two days worth of class with him with the sling,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're like, holy smokes, Like I can't believe you

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<v Speaker 6>the it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you go, you go back home. You put a

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<v Speaker 4>sling on all of them, don't you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>That pretty much? Yep, pretty much, yep. Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you had a chance to shoot the Colt five?

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<v Speaker 7>I haven't. It's gonna be my first day.

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<v Speaker 4>Too, Okay, this They're gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 6>I've seen it so when we're down there doing the

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<v Speaker 6>when we're down there doing the the nineteen eleven class

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<v Speaker 6>with Cold and I got to see it, but I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't actually get.

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<v Speaker 7>To shoot it. So okay, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Good ude, Well you get to shoot with this cold

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<v Speaker 4>professional shooter, you know, that's.

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<v Speaker 7>What I heard. I'm looking forward to that too.

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<v Speaker 5>Interested it's you go to Rangebady Studios dot Com. I

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<v Speaker 5>know they have a couple of slots left, but this

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<v Speaker 5>thing is going to sell out. I mean, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think it was twenty five hundred bucks. You get the

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<v Speaker 5>two days instruction, you get all them, you get the rifle,

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<v Speaker 5>you get the scope, you get all the accessories. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and you get a really good couple of days of

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<v Speaker 5>lunches too.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I was gonna say, don't leave out the lunches.

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<v Speaker 7>That's that's one of the really good parts. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>People think we're joking, but people do come away going, man,

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<v Speaker 5>I just can't believe how.

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<v Speaker 4>They fed us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's not normal range food, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>It is. It is not.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you're gonna have a good time down there.

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<v Speaker 5>Anybody that could signed up, if they can get in,

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna have a great time too.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, by the way, uh, you just moved back

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<v Speaker 4>to Idaho, So welcome back home.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you very much. I'm super excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna get together do some shooting now.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep. I like it.

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<v Speaker 5>Good deal, Travis Skipson, thank you so much. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Let's talk about guns. I'm Tom Gresham. This

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<v Speaker 5>is Gun Talk. We're gonna have some fun now. I

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<v Speaker 5>got a lot of time available right now. I've got

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<v Speaker 5>a big segment of the show available right now for

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<v Speaker 5>whatever you want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>To give me a call. The phone number is very

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<v Speaker 4>easy to remember.

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<v Speaker 7>Tom.

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<v Speaker 4>That's me, Tom Talk Gun. That's it.

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<v Speaker 5>Just call Tom Talk Gun. If we're all the numbers,

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<v Speaker 5>eight sixty six, eight two five, five four eighty six.

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<v Speaker 4>Who cares? Tom Talk Gun. There you go.

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<v Speaker 5>And honestly, it doesn't really matter what the subject matter is.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't hold a thought anyway, so I don't even

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<v Speaker 5>know what we were talking about before. So don't worry

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<v Speaker 5>about continuity.

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<v Speaker 4>I never have.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you know there's a gun you want to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about, or questions that you have for me, if

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<v Speaker 5>you think about starting to carry a gun, it's a

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<v Speaker 5>complex subject and a lot of people want to make

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<v Speaker 5>it simple, and generally people who want to make it

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<v Speaker 5>simple don't know much about it. Kind of goes to

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<v Speaker 5>that whole topic we talk about regularly, which is choose

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<v Speaker 5>your sources of information carefully. It's a lot of nonsense

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<v Speaker 5>out there, and unfortunately, if you don't know the difference.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of the people spouting nonsense really sound and look

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<v Speaker 5>like they know what they're doing. They're all tacticaled up,

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<v Speaker 5>got all their cool gear, they got all these cool moves,

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<v Speaker 5>and they talk with big, deep voices. But they may

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<v Speaker 5>not know what they're doing. So just be careful. Che's wisely.

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<v Speaker 5>I have been vacillating thinking about for I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 5>For some reason, I was looking at three eighties three

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<v Speaker 5>eighty pistols. If you know, you know, but the three

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<v Speaker 5>eighty cartridge is essentially a shorter, weaker nine milimeter cartridge

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<v Speaker 5>shoots a nine milimeter bullet. In fact, in Germany the

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<v Speaker 5>three eighties called the nine milimeter curse, which is I

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<v Speaker 5>mean short, It's a nine milimeters short. There was a

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<v Speaker 5>time when you wouldn't have thought of carrying a three

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<v Speaker 5>eighty for self defense. But that's back when we were

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<v Speaker 5>all shooting full metal jacket bullets. Now we have really

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<v Speaker 5>good AMMO and really good bullets, and there are a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of good three eighties out there. I think Caltech

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<v Speaker 5>and Ruger broke through with their little bitty, teeny tiny

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<v Speaker 5>pistols in three eighty. I don't know anybody, honestly who's

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<v Speaker 5>series about self defense, who really is into this, who

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't own a Ruger LCP or the Celtech version, may

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<v Speaker 5>not carry it much anymore, but probably did, but you

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<v Speaker 5>know it is the s ken Jorkinson said, it's the

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<v Speaker 5>gun you carry when you can carry a gun, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's a really good description of it. There are some

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<v Speaker 5>slightly larger versions available now, and it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 5>cool sweet spot, and I would call them it's a microcompact,

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<v Speaker 5>but not as super small as the LCP, something like

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<v Speaker 5>the Smith and Western Bodyguard two point zero, and there

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<v Speaker 5>are versions from Ruger and others. There are some really

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<v Speaker 5>nice advantages to the three eighty, particularly for people who

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<v Speaker 5>have trouble working the slide of a nine milimeter with

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<v Speaker 5>a recoil spring is just too strong. I can't you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we could go into the technique and all, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I look there people who just don't have the strength

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<v Speaker 5>ours right as to whatever. Almost anybody can work the

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<v Speaker 5>slide on a three eighty, not the super small ones, understand,

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<v Speaker 5>because as you get smaller and smaller, the spring recoil

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<v Speaker 5>spring has to get smaller and smaller, shorter, but it

429
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<v Speaker 5>still has to have the power to handle the recoil,

430
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<v Speaker 5>and so it is harder to work the slide. As

431
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<v Speaker 5>your three eighty pistol gets larger, the slide becomes easier

432
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<v Speaker 5>to work. A totally full size three eighty is an

433
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<v Speaker 5>amazing thing, really no effort at all. But these mid

434
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<v Speaker 5>sized microcompacts whatever you want to call them, like the

435
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<v Speaker 5>Bodyguard two point zero, very easy to work, the slide

436
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<v Speaker 5>on them, very shootable, not much recoil and there. This

437
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<v Speaker 5>new generation is really crazy accurate. I enjoy shooting The

438
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<v Speaker 5>Bodyguard all the way back to and it's been around

439
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<v Speaker 5>a long time now. The SIGs got their own version,

440
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<v Speaker 5>the nine thirty eight. That's the nine million ear they

441
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<v Speaker 5>are I think it's two thirty eight three eighty and

442
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<v Speaker 5>it looks like a little shrunk nineteen eleven and they

443
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<v Speaker 5>shoot really well. They're kind of small and honestly harder

444
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<v Speaker 5>to shoot because they're so As you get to smaller guns,

445
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<v Speaker 5>really really smaller guns, they simply become more difficult to

446
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<v Speaker 5>shoot well. Speaking of shooting, well, later on in the show,

447
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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna have a world champion, National champion, world champion

448
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<v Speaker 5>shooter who's won practically everything there is to win. In

449
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<v Speaker 5>pistol shooting, and just because we like to drive people crazy.

450
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<v Speaker 5>One of the things he talks about is quit thinking

451
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<v Speaker 5>about amy. You spend too much effort worrying about amy.

452
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<v Speaker 5>If you stop thinking about aiming, you could hit targets better.

453
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<v Speaker 5>It's true. I have demonstrated it on the range many,

454
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<v Speaker 5>many times. But we'll let him cover that.

455
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<v Speaker 4>It's fun.

456
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<v Speaker 5>One of the questions I ask, and it's rhetorical and

457
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<v Speaker 5>maybe not, it's why do you miss?

458
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<v Speaker 4>Targets?

459
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<v Speaker 5>Aren't moving? Generally? Paper target's just there when you aim

460
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<v Speaker 5>at the target. Are the sites going all over the place?

461
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<v Speaker 5>Are they like off the target? Are they off the paper?

462
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<v Speaker 5>Or are they putting up the sky pourting down to

463
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<v Speaker 5>the ground? What's going on here? People want to shoot better,

464
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<v Speaker 5>but I'm not sure everybody, No, I am sure. I'm

465
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<v Speaker 5>sure that most people don't really work on how do

466
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<v Speaker 5>I get better? Why am I missing? Which is the

467
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<v Speaker 5>sense your question? Why did I not shoot better?

468
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<v Speaker 4>We can?

469
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<v Speaker 5>The guns are amazingly good these days. If you put

470
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<v Speaker 5>the gun in a vice, it's going to put all

471
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<v Speaker 5>the shots pretty close.

472
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<v Speaker 4>To one hole. So what's going on? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>If you have a comment or question or a thought

475
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<v Speaker 5>on that, or if you figured it out, I'd love

476
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<v Speaker 5>to know how you got better.

477
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<v Speaker 4>Oh so I got a question for you.

478
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<v Speaker 5>Know those things as magnets where you stick your gun

479
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<v Speaker 5>onto the dash under the dash of your car, and

480
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<v Speaker 5>you got your pistol. It's backed onto the car or

481
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<v Speaker 5>onto the console. You take it a yourholes should put

482
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<v Speaker 5>it in there. Somebody's gonna have to call it. Explain

483
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<v Speaker 5>that to me. I am not understanding it, and I'm

484
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<v Speaker 5>sure I'm missing something. But if you do it and

485
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<v Speaker 5>you have one, let me know. Number here is Tom

486
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<v Speaker 5>Talk Gun. I'm curious and i am ready to be educated.

487
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<v Speaker 5>I'm Tom Gresham. This is gun Talking.

488
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<v Speaker 4>Oh what have you been shooting?

489
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<v Speaker 5>Let me know. Give me a call right now. Call

490
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<v Speaker 5>me at tom Talk Gun. I'm Tom Gresham. This is

491
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<v Speaker 5>gun Talk. You can check us out over on the web,

492
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<v Speaker 5>of course. We are gun talk dot Com. We're on

493
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<v Speaker 5>Facebook is gun talk Media. Over on YouTube you can

494
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<v Speaker 5>find us. I'm on x where you can find me.

495
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<v Speaker 5>I am at gun talk over there. I had an

496
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<v Speaker 5>interesting post from somebody I guess was yesterday. He says, Yeah,

497
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<v Speaker 5>you got an interesting take. You tell people they shouldn't

498
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<v Speaker 5>have training and shouldn't take classes because you encourage them

499
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<v Speaker 5>to spend all their money on new guns. So I

500
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<v Speaker 5>did not quite know how to respond to that, so

501
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<v Speaker 5>I said, where you got me? You got me on

502
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<v Speaker 5>that one. Yep, I've never told anybody they ought to

503
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<v Speaker 5>go and get training. I'll try to do better. I mean,

504
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<v Speaker 5>what do you do right again? Eight six six? Talk

505
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<v Speaker 5>gun gets you in here? Let's see Rodney called that

506
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<v Speaker 5>out of Texas online one. Hey, Rodi, thanks for calling down.

507
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<v Speaker 5>Work on your mind, Thank you.

508
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<v Speaker 12>Tom So, I'm reloading some forty five acp pistols and

509
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<v Speaker 12>pistol cartridges, and I've noticed that the hornity brass doesn't

510
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<v Speaker 12>seem to want to take either the large pistol prommer

511
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<v Speaker 12>nor the small pistol promer. Most of them take more

512
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<v Speaker 12>than the others, such as Federal Fredwell takes the smaller

513
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<v Speaker 12>ones and other ones take the larger ones. But this

514
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<v Speaker 12>one just there's something just a little bit off on

515
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<v Speaker 12>this brass. And I'm wondering, is can you elaborate on

516
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<v Speaker 12>that or why is that?

517
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<v Speaker 5>I have not experienced that. I'm just wondering. So clearly

518
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<v Speaker 5>you are an experienced reloader. So you understand that some

519
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<v Speaker 5>are coming with small private pockets the summer are coming

520
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<v Speaker 5>with large, but in this case you can't get either

521
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<v Speaker 5>want of them to work. What happens when you're trying

522
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<v Speaker 5>to get in.

523
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<v Speaker 12>I can try to force some of them in, but

524
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<v Speaker 12>sometimes you'll bend the primer and you know it just

525
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<v Speaker 12>or it'll go in. It just doesn't go in right now.

526
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<v Speaker 12>So what I've been doing is just I've just been

527
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<v Speaker 12>chunking the hornity brass, which I don't want to do.

528
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<v Speaker 12>I know it's a good quality brass, but I'm just

529
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<v Speaker 12>wondering did horn Hornby make a little bit different kind

530
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<v Speaker 12>of primer or something that they put them in? So

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<v Speaker 12>I thought i'd ask you you.

532
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<v Speaker 5>Are you familiar with well, basically cleaning up a private pocket.

533
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<v Speaker 5>You can have a little tools that were put in

534
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<v Speaker 5>there and scrape them and clean them up, get them

535
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<v Speaker 5>to the universe uniform size. I'm just wondering if either

536
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<v Speaker 5>they're suaging the primer pockets, uh some kind of a

537
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<v Speaker 5>crimp in there, or if you can uniform them with

538
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<v Speaker 5>a private pocket uniformer and that would work.

539
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<v Speaker 12>I haven't tried that. I would just usually just after

540
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<v Speaker 12>I clean them, you know clean my brass. I usually

541
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<v Speaker 12>prime I wipe them out with a Q tip, but

542
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<v Speaker 12>I haven't tried a primer tool, so you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, I mean the obvious thing would it would be

544
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<v Speaker 5>just to give them a call, call Horny and say, hey,

545
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<v Speaker 5>this is what's going on. Is there something I need

546
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<v Speaker 5>to know about your primer pockets?

547
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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I'll try that.

548
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<v Speaker 7>Well.

549
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<v Speaker 12>Thank you so much Ryan for my question.

550
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<v Speaker 4>Do you bet?

551
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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure I helped it all, but at least

552
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<v Speaker 5>it gives you a couple of places to head out.

553
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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate the call, sir. Let's go grab Joe out

554
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<v Speaker 5>of New Jersey. Hello, Joe, you're on gun talking what

555
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<v Speaker 5>you ben shooting?

556
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<v Speaker 7>Well?

557
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<v Speaker 13>Tom, I got a range report for you about a

558
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<v Speaker 13>new target and a new drill. I don't know if

559
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<v Speaker 13>you saw it. I sent you an email. It's quite

560
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<v Speaker 13>the easy to see it says E letter E, the

561
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<v Speaker 13>letter Z, the number two and the number ce. Easy

562
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<v Speaker 13>and what it is on the target. They've got eight

563
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<v Speaker 13>geometric shapes, each one about the size of a coffee saucer.

564
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<v Speaker 13>They've got two squares, two circles, two triangles, and two octagons,

565
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<v Speaker 13>and each pair which are randomly scattered. You know, one

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<v Speaker 13>one square might be red and the other might be yellow.

567
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<v Speaker 13>One circle might be green, the other one might be blank.

568
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<v Speaker 13>And in each one there's a number, and the numbers

569
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<v Speaker 13>are no particular order, but they're all different. So what

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<v Speaker 13>we do now is one of us stands behind the

571
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<v Speaker 13>shooter and we'll call out green circle number seven, and

572
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<v Speaker 13>they have to go find those two targets. They have

573
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<v Speaker 13>to go bang bang, and then we call out the

574
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<v Speaker 13>next pair, bang bang, and it's you know, so it's

575
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<v Speaker 13>a quick target recognition quick fire, so much more interesting

576
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<v Speaker 13>and challenging and just shooting at the little red bulls

577
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<v Speaker 13>eye in the center of the target.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, And look we've been doing that for thirty or

579
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<v Speaker 5>forty years, making up our own targets, are getting targets

580
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<v Speaker 5>from different people, and have somebody call out, you know,

581
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<v Speaker 5>odd numbers are you know, I just say seven and

582
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<v Speaker 5>three whatever. So rather than just quickly jumping up with

583
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<v Speaker 5>the gun and shooting the target, you have to find

584
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<v Speaker 5>the target, identify it before you shoot it.

585
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<v Speaker 4>I think that's really good training.

586
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, and it's really I don't know, if you check

587
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<v Speaker 13>your email, you'll see a picture Tom. But again it's

588
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<v Speaker 13>a fairly large target. And again there's eight. There's four

589
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<v Speaker 13>in each column, but no two geometric shapes have the

590
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<v Speaker 13>same color, you know. So you might have two triangles,

591
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<v Speaker 13>but one triangle might be green and the other triangle

592
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<v Speaker 13>it might be yellow. Circle. I'm sorry, you can't game it.

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<v Speaker 4>You got you got to actually listen to the instruction

594
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<v Speaker 4>and find.

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<v Speaker 13>The right target right, and the numbers are not If

596
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<v Speaker 13>the numbers are one through eight, but they're not in

597
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<v Speaker 13>any sequence. They're not one, two, three, four. You know,

598
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<v Speaker 13>the number eight might be an upper left hand corner.

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<v Speaker 13>Number three might be the second one down on the right.

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<v Speaker 13>So if I shout out, you know, green circle number four,

601
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<v Speaker 13>you've got to find the green first, find the number

602
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<v Speaker 13>circle the green green. By the way, the number four

603
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<v Speaker 13>might be in the green circle. So if I if

604
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<v Speaker 13>I yet a green circle, number three, and then number three,

605
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<v Speaker 13>it's going to take you a second to realize that

606
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<v Speaker 13>number three is also the green circle. You have to

607
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<v Speaker 13>shoot the green circle twice.

608
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<v Speaker 4>So what do you feel like you're getting out of

609
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<v Speaker 4>that target, Well.

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<v Speaker 13>It's it's it's a target recognition and then quick you know,

611
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<v Speaker 13>it's quick shifting.

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<v Speaker 14>Again.

613
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<v Speaker 13>When when we're shooting red bull's eyes, we used to

614
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<v Speaker 13>stand there for five or six seconds, you know, steady

615
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<v Speaker 13>the gun, you know, hould control of our breathing and

616
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<v Speaker 13>squeeze off. The shot gets boring pretty quick. So this

617
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<v Speaker 13>is more real life quick target identification. It's more it's

618
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<v Speaker 13>more of a real life Hey, you've got to you've

619
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<v Speaker 13>got to identify the target, make sure it's the right target,

620
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<v Speaker 13>and you got to shoot quickly, and you got to

621
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<v Speaker 13>shoot accurately, which is much more realistic than our typical

622
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<v Speaker 13>red you know, shoot at the red dot in the

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<v Speaker 13>middle of the target.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I love it.

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<v Speaker 7>I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, thank you for the call, and thank you for

627
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<v Speaker 5>bringing that up. I appreciate that. That's as I say,

628
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<v Speaker 5>it's something we've been doing for many, many years. But

629
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<v Speaker 5>there's a commercial target available and anybody can do that.

630
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<v Speaker 5>You can put up your own targets and have somebody

631
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<v Speaker 5>call them out. That leads me to a topic, and

632
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<v Speaker 5>I'm normal, don't go anywhere. I'm gonna get you in

633
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<v Speaker 5>just a second. Here the idea that And yes, I

634
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<v Speaker 5>understand the drawing and shooting fast is a skill, and

635
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<v Speaker 5>it's a good skill to have. It's good weapon manipulation skill.

636
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<v Speaker 5>But in defensive situations, Drawing and shooting fast may not

637
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<v Speaker 5>be the solution. I'm not saying it's a bad thing

638
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<v Speaker 5>to know how to do, but it may not be

639
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 5>called for. What often is called for is looking and

640
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:49.839
<v Speaker 5>understanding what's going on, trying to figure out, you know, okay,

641
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 5>where's the bad guy? How many bad guys are there?

642
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 5>Is there more than one? Are there new people arriving

643
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:01.359
<v Speaker 5>on the scene if they already have a gun out.

644
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 5>I can't get into a fast draw contest with somebody

645
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.920
<v Speaker 5>whos already got a gun out. So now it becomes

646
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 5>a matter of timing. Is there a way to have

647
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 5>you ever practiced drawing from stealth? You're sitting down and

648
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 5>you're going to try to get your gun out, so

649
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 5>you have it in your hand, but nobody sees that

650
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:21.599
<v Speaker 5>you're drawing. That is not an easy thing to do.

651
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:25.200
<v Speaker 5>You need to practice that. And this kind of goes

652
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 5>along with that, which is taking enough time to find

653
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 5>the right target, identify the right target, and then shoot

654
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 5>the right target, as opposed to just drags you fast,

655
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 5>because that, as I say, that.

656
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:41.200
<v Speaker 4>May be necessary.

657
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 5>And you know, in the old Gunslinger movies it was

658
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 5>whoever could draw fast and youoo fast would win. Not

659
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.759
<v Speaker 5>realistic in a lot of situations. Just food for thought.

660
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 5>Love to get your take on that. All right, let's

661
00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 5>go pick up Noran on five out of Grant's Pass

662
00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:01.960
<v Speaker 5>or no, let's talk three eighties.

663
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 14>I have gone through a number of concealed carries, trying

664
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<v Speaker 14>different things for different scenarios and particularly when I'm in

665
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 14>the dress, you know, clothing, church or outings. I've gone

666
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:23.880
<v Speaker 14>to the Taurus. I've been through the Burretta that I've

667
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:29.720
<v Speaker 14>been through the even the Bursa thunder. And recently I

668
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:37.079
<v Speaker 14>was gifted older custom or cult Mustang pocket light. It's

669
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.240
<v Speaker 14>in a little nineteen eleven format, and I'll tell you

670
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 14>what I really enjoy it. It is much It's kind

671
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 14>of that middle size to where I can hang on

672
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 14>to it well and still stay on target at you know,

673
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.119
<v Speaker 14>twenty feet thirty feet, I can still put it on plate.

674
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 14>And it's a good conceive for dress clothing.

675
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 5>And they're small. This is a small pistol. I've shot those.

676
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:06.599
<v Speaker 5>They shoot really well.

677
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:13.039
<v Speaker 14>I was I was immensely surprised at how easily it

678
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.240
<v Speaker 14>was to control it. And you know, I'm still getting

679
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 14>used to it practicing with it. But by default. Now

680
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 14>if I'm in dress clothing, it's my default to go

681
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 14>to for a really nice kind of medium subcompact. I

682
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 14>guess you'd still call it, but I mean a little

683
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 14>shoulder holster or in the waistband dress clothing, a little

684
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:39.640
<v Speaker 14>vest on. You can't see it.

685
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 5>You could even put that in like a little pocket

686
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 5>holster and slide into a front past pocket.

687
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 4>It would just disappear in there.

688
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 14>Absolutely absolutely done that as well for a quick grab,

689
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 14>you know, going into the big stores, and while it's

690
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 14>in my duffel.

691
00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, I was thinking about this.

692
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 5>I think one of the reasons that that pistol shoots

693
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 5>so well is because even though it's a small gun,

694
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 5>it's got short sight radius and it's lightweight.

695
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:12.359
<v Speaker 4>Is it has such a good trigger.

696
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:17.160
<v Speaker 5>It's nineteen eleven, and so you're not disturbing the sites

697
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 5>as much when you pull the trigger on that.

698
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:25.960
<v Speaker 14>What do you think, well, I would agree. I learned

699
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:29.759
<v Speaker 14>a lot of my pistol shooting on you know, forty

700
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 14>five nineteen eleven and going to the other ones, you know,

701
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 14>I learned to control them. But as soon as I

702
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 14>put that nineteen you know, that Compact nineteen eleven in

703
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 14>my hand. I went, no, this is this is this

704
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 14>is what my hand likes, and my eyes.

705
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Speaker 4>I've already been trained on it, right, right, it is interesting.

706
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.519
<v Speaker 5>Well that that's a really good recommendation. The other part

707
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 5>of that solution or that package, is to make sure

708
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.559
<v Speaker 5>you're using good modern three eighty m On, we've got

709
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 5>some really good defensive end of these days.

710
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 4>What do you know, what are you carrying these days?

711
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 14>Well, I load most all of my own, But when

712
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 14>I am during that carry, I do the buyout and

713
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 14>I do the hornity hollow points. I forget what their

714
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 14>reference is for it, but I very specifically buy you know,

715
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 14>a good quality.

716
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's good, that's good round, good carry, good good,

717
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:31.880
<v Speaker 4>good call.

718
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 5>And you know, obviously you just make sure they run

719
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 5>through your gun. Great call, Mormon, thank you for calling in.

720
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:38.519
<v Speaker 4>I love that take.

721
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 5>I think that cult pocket Light or the Colt Pony,

722
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 5>the Little Miniature nineteen eleven and three eighty is certainly viable.

723
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 5>SIGG has kind of the same thing in the nine

724
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 5>thirty eight. And then you've got a lot of these

725
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 5>other ones. Let's just say the exemplified by the Smith

726
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 5>and Western Bodyguard two point zero. Rugers got theirs. Others

727
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 5>have the same ones. And the triggers on all these guns,

728
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 5>even the striker fired guns, they've gotten so good. And

729
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I hate to say it, hate to have

730
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 5>these words come out of my mouth, but honestly, the

731
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 5>triggers on these guns are rivaling a nineteen eleven trigger

732
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 5>these days.

733
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 4>And why is that.

734
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's because we demand it. It's because we won't

735
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.800
<v Speaker 5>put up with bad triggers anymore. People are starting to

736
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 5>figure out what good triggers are. And the more you shoot,

737
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 5>the more you go, Huh, that's a crummy trigger. It's creepy,

738
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 5>it's cruddy. It feels like somebody poor grit inside my gun.

739
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.719
<v Speaker 5>It's a long trigger pull, it's got three places it

740
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 5>stops before it actually gets to the wall, and it

741
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 5>actually goes off. I get shoot that when no one

742
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 5>can shoot that. So people are demanding better triggers.

743
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 4>I think said that.

744
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 5>If you're pulling the trigger slowly and feeling all of that,

745
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 5>you're kind of setting yourself up to shoot badly, as

746
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 5>opposed to just pull the trigger, get on target and

747
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 5>pull the trigger and I yank it, not jerk it,

748
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 5>but just pull it and don't quite creep creep, creep creep,

749
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 5>trying to find the perfect place before it goes off. Now,

750
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.480
<v Speaker 5>get the sites up on target, and don't worry all

751
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 5>that much about where the sites are. They're gonna take

752
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.559
<v Speaker 5>care of themselves. Honestly, they really will. Your sites do

753
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.719
<v Speaker 5>not wobble off of the bullseye guarantee you. When you're

754
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 5>aiming in and you're trying to make it just perfect,

755
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 5>we're worried about perfect. Pull the trigger and pull it again,

756
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 5>and pull it fast. Get the sights up where they're

757
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 5>supposed to go. Try to press the trigger without disturbing

758
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:59.920
<v Speaker 5>the alignment of the sites. All right, let's go grab

759
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 5>Zachary online one out of Arlington, Texas. Hey Zachary, thank

760
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 5>you for calling in. What's on your mind?

761
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 6>Hi?

762
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 15>Tom, I'm calling about because I'm a new renter.

763
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 16>I'm calling about tips.

764
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 15>And tricks, things putting perspective leading up to the moment

765
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 15>the guy breaks down the door. If I'm having a

766
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 15>home intruder, Okay, what's your question. So theoretical scenario, guys

767
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 15>at the door bing and I know he's going to

768
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 15>get in.

769
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:28.320
<v Speaker 14>I already have my gun.

770
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 15>I know that I have to shoot him, but what

771
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 15>are some things I can do. Let's say week stays

772
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 15>in advance. Just prepare for that kind of scenario that

773
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:37.599
<v Speaker 15>I can do as a new renter.

774
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 5>Okay, first of all, go get a take a class somewhere. Seriously,

775
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.920
<v Speaker 5>take a class. It's the most important thing you can do.

776
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 5>I don't care if it's a CLKA class or just

777
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 5>a good class on defensive shooting. You will learn things there.

778
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 5>Whe you're going to slap your head, go wow, I

779
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.880
<v Speaker 5>never thought of that. It'll happen over and over again.

780
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 5>That is the most important thing you can do. I'm

781
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 5>serious having said that, have a plan, know what you're

782
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 5>gonna do. And this is where the classes come in.

783
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 5>You can't shoot him before they break in the door,

784
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.840
<v Speaker 5>but you can get behind cover, whether it's behind a

785
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 5>bed somewhere. And frankly, I wouldn't be standing in the

786
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.079
<v Speaker 5>living room. I'd go get behind a bed and be

787
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 5>on the phone, call a nine one one. I'd make

788
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.280
<v Speaker 5>them come into my bedroom, you know what. And then

789
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 5>they're coming through the door. You know what they call

790
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 5>the door. They call it the fatal funnel because when

791
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 5>he comes in there, you know exactly where he is,

792
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 5>you know exactly what to do. And he's already broken

793
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:34.719
<v Speaker 5>into your house, so it's completely justifiable. The other thing

794
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 5>you need, really need is a good powerful flashlight, and

795
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:41.440
<v Speaker 5>you need to know how to shoot while you're holding

796
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 5>a flashlight.

797
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Ah.

798
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 5>That goes back to getting some training and going to

799
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 5>a class. And so please, please please don't think just

800
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 5>because you have a gun that you have a solution.

801
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 5>It is the tool, but it's not the software, it's

802
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 5>not the knowledgy you need. And this is complicated. This

803
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:02.280
<v Speaker 5>stuff is not easy. And everything you know about guns

804
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 5>that you've learned from the movies and from TV is

805
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.559
<v Speaker 5>wrong and some of them could get you hurt, and

806
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:10.599
<v Speaker 5>a lot of it will get you put in prison

807
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.639
<v Speaker 5>because you screwed things up. That's where a class is,

808
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.599
<v Speaker 5>whether it's a concealed carry class or a defensive class.

809
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:27.760
<v Speaker 4>It's worth the money, all right.

810
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 5>So earlier I asked the question to needed somebody to

811
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 5>explain to me this whole thing. I've using magnets or

812
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.039
<v Speaker 5>something to hold your gun to the underside of the

813
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:39.800
<v Speaker 5>dash of your car or to your console. Rusty's got

814
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.119
<v Speaker 5>a thought on that. He's called in from Straightford. Hey, Rusty,

815
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 5>fill me in. What do you think of a long

816
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:44.480
<v Speaker 5>time listener.

817
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 16>I think term of radio and heard talking about the magnets.

818
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:48.239
<v Speaker 12>I use them a lot.

819
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 16>I've got them in allful vehicles. So I stepped in,

820
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 16>I pulled it out of my belt, put on the

821
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 16>magnet between my knees, and somebody walks up. You can

822
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 16>have in your hand before they even know you moved.

823
00:39:58.159 --> 00:39:58.639
<v Speaker 4>Even in my.

824
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 16>House, I've got a full bait marble table down under

825
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:03.039
<v Speaker 16>each corner, the gun under each corner. I'm sitting there

826
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:03.639
<v Speaker 16>eating breakfast.

827
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 14>I got a gun and reach you. No, So I

828
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 14>love them.

829
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:08.320
<v Speaker 5>So you when you get in your car, you have

830
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.519
<v Speaker 5>to take a gun out of your holster and put

831
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:12.280
<v Speaker 5>it on the magnet. And then when you get back

832
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:13.400
<v Speaker 5>out of the car, you got to take it out

833
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:14.519
<v Speaker 5>of there and put it back in the holster.

834
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:15.639
<v Speaker 12>Right.

835
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 16>But the only thing is, you know, if you're setting

836
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:18.960
<v Speaker 16>in your car and you got a gun in your belt,

837
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:19.760
<v Speaker 16>it sometime might.

838
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 7>Be hard to reach for me.

839
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.239
<v Speaker 13>And so I just stick it right there with the

840
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:23.840
<v Speaker 13>six inches.

841
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:25.320
<v Speaker 16>You know, you ride down the road one hand on

842
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.519
<v Speaker 16>your leg and you're not six inches from your gun.

843
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 16>You know, without making any movement, you're loaded.

844
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, I just look at that and think, man,

845
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 5>that's a lot of gun handling back and forth. And

846
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 5>I guess maybe I have practiced enough to know I

847
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 5>know how to draw. Of course, I carry a gun

848
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 5>at the three o'clock position, and I know how to

849
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 5>get back there and draw my gun and get it

850
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<v Speaker 5>back out if I need it, and clearly if I

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<v Speaker 5>see somebody coming, if I think I'm gonna need it,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna get it out and have it in my hand.

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<v Speaker 15>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>The other thing I think about, let me ask you

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<v Speaker 5>about this. If something happened and I got to bail

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<v Speaker 5>out of that car in a hurry. We've had a wreck,

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<v Speaker 5>something's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to go.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to have to find the gun or

860
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<v Speaker 5>worry about where it is. I know it's on my

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<v Speaker 5>side if I have to get out in a hurry.

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<v Speaker 13>Thoughts, Well, I carry my gun.

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<v Speaker 16>I'm left handed. Uh, so I can carry my gun

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<v Speaker 16>on my left side and puts my arm against the

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<v Speaker 16>door of the vehicle, which gives me limited mobility. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 16>and uh, I'm not sitting there with one leg my

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<v Speaker 16>left hand on my leg all the time you want.

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<v Speaker 16>When I'm driving, I'm not six inches from the gun.

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<v Speaker 16>I can reach and grab it, not even move my shoulder.

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<v Speaker 16>They don't even know if he made to move. That's

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<v Speaker 16>what I like about him.

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<v Speaker 14>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>I did not even think about the left handed aspect

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<v Speaker 5>of it. And yeah, you're right, your your arm is

875
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<v Speaker 5>jammed up against the door and you don't have as much.

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<v Speaker 4>Room, right huh.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Well think that's why I was asked. I said,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, somebody explained this to me, and you have

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<v Speaker 5>brought up a part of it. I just didn't think

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<v Speaker 5>at all. And so Russie, thank you. I appreciate that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, we've got to give us some credit and

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<v Speaker 5>some leeway on that one.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not something I want to do.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not quite there, but I can see where he's

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<v Speaker 5>coming from there. Okay, interesting, very good, Thank you, rush you.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate the call. I may have been a little

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<v Speaker 5>quick with our caller who has asked about a renter

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<v Speaker 5>being a renter in the apartment. And one of the

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<v Speaker 5>things I wanted to say is he said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if a guy's kicking on the door, breaking the door,

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<v Speaker 5>I know I'm gonna have to shoot him.

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<v Speaker 7>Well maybe not.

893
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<v Speaker 5>Let's back up. This is where the training comes in.

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<v Speaker 5>If you start out thinking, I know I got to

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<v Speaker 5>shoot this guy, then that's what you're gonna do. But

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<v Speaker 5>if you say, okay, I have other tools in my

897
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<v Speaker 5>toolbox that I can use, and it may be with

898
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<v Speaker 5>that powerful flashlight and ask somebody skick it on the door,

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<v Speaker 5>you can yell I have a gun. I have called

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<v Speaker 5>the police. If you men here, I will shoot you.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not a bad command. It's particularly a really good

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<v Speaker 5>command if you're already on the phone with nine Poet

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<v Speaker 5>one because they're recording the call. If you call them,

904
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<v Speaker 5>told her what your address is. There's a guy kicking

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<v Speaker 5>in the door, I need police now, and you stay

906
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<v Speaker 5>on the phone and then they hear you saying don't

907
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<v Speaker 5>come in.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a gun.

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<v Speaker 5>If you come in here, I'm gonna shoot you. I've

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<v Speaker 5>already called the police. That's not a bad thing to

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<v Speaker 5>have in the recording. So but starting off with the

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<v Speaker 5>idea that well, if he comes to my house and

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<v Speaker 5>kick to the door, I'm going to shoot him, or

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<v Speaker 5>I want to try to avoid that at all possible,

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<v Speaker 5>And if I can get him to stop by yelling

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<v Speaker 5>at him, man, I'm all about that. That's a good day.

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<v Speaker 5>Any day you don't have to shoot somebody. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>good day, all right, So why do you miss. We're

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<v Speaker 5>going to fill in the blanks for you.

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<v Speaker 4>We're we come back.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to talk to an expert instructor who will

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<v Speaker 5>tell you stop, ain't
