Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM on demand. James, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: So, I'm well, James, how can I help you?
Speaker 2: Well, I know this is going to be different for you,
Speaker 2: but I'm currently incarcerated. I've been locked up for about
Speaker 2: three years now and I'm currently in a criminally in
Speaker 2: faian facility, and so I know it's probably the first
Speaker 2: time you've ever received a call from a place like this.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. But normally I hear a beep, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they are they don't. They normally have a little
Speaker 1: uh a beep on there and something telling the person
Speaker 1: on the other end of the line where you're calling from.
Speaker 2: Not that I know what it was like. They're pretty
Speaker 2: much allowed with all the access we'd use little prepaid
Speaker 2: phone cards.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, But well, how can I help you, James?
Speaker 2: I'm still you know, I'm twenty one years old. I
Speaker 2: studied the Bible a whole lot, and I've always had
Speaker 2: a question. I'm very familiar with the Genesis and the
Speaker 2: fourth chapter of Genesis. It speaks about when Cain him
Speaker 2: and his brother it got into and to conversation and
Speaker 2: he killed his brother and they said that they came
Speaker 2: to fled from the land from the presence of the Lord,
Speaker 2: and he dwelt in the landa nod where he met
Speaker 2: his wife as she buried his child. I was just
Speaker 2: always curious, where did his wife come from?
Speaker 1: A lot of people kind of skip over this, and
Speaker 1: because it's it's not of great importance. Obviously, canaan Abele
Speaker 1: are of importance because it deals with the first murder, right,
Speaker 1: so that becomes a more important part of the narrative
Speaker 1: of what's going on in scripture. But other things kind
Speaker 1: of fall by the wayside because they're of less importance
Speaker 1: to explain certain more moral character of man or certain
Speaker 1: importance about the history of man, so they aren't as highlighted,
Speaker 1: I guess. So in this particular case, it's it's right
Speaker 1: under your nose. And Genesis five four it says that
Speaker 1: Adam begot sons and daughters, so it's talking about it's
Speaker 1: people think that Adam and Eve only had two kids.
Speaker 1: I think they had Cain and Abel, and that's not
Speaker 1: the case. That's just because that's important. The other stuff
Speaker 1: is kind of left, as I said, by the wayside.
Speaker 1: But in this case, you see that there are sons
Speaker 1: and daughters. So prepare yourself because this gets a little
Speaker 1: weird that Kane married a sister, or depending on when
Speaker 1: he got married, could have married a niece. Okay, now
Speaker 1: then that you know you study scripture, it's proper to
Speaker 1: follow that up with well, wait a second, isn't that incest?
Speaker 1: And doesn't the Bible condemn incest? But interestingly enough, that doesn't.
Speaker 1: That condemnation doesn't come until Leviticus eighteen, so that that
Speaker 1: particular condemnation was long, long after a thousand years or
Speaker 1: so after this. So the reason was that to perpetuate
Speaker 1: and put people on this planet, incest was necessary. Once
Speaker 1: that had been fulfilled, then God said no more, it's
Speaker 1: no longer necessary and put the kibosh on that and
Speaker 1: actually put that into scripture and the levitical law. So
Speaker 1: that is where Canon got his wife, and why it's
Speaker 1: okay that it's his sister.
Speaker 2: Didn't happen, didn't happen again after no abided art and
Speaker 2: great flood happened.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, but then you have concerns. You have concerns
Speaker 1: about similar things, but you had non You had other
Speaker 1: opportunities as well that were different than the original case.
Speaker 1: Dealing with Adam and Eve. But a lot of people
Speaker 1: get caught up in that and thinking that this is
Speaker 1: the incest issue and so on. And although today it's
Speaker 1: icky and should be icky, that at the time in
Speaker 1: the process that it was purposeful God allowed it. Michael,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3: Hello Jesus. You're talking about this morning about the narrow
Speaker 3: door and the wide door. Yes, And I am.
Speaker 1: Jewish and as am I spread the word Thank you.
Speaker 3: I believe in that you came and you saved me.
Speaker 3: I believe you're a maculate conception and that you died
Speaker 3: on the cross for my sins, and that I am
Speaker 3: saved through your blood.
Speaker 1: Okay. The immaculate conception actually deals with a lot of
Speaker 1: people get this confused with the virgin birth. Maculate conception
Speaker 1: is a Catholic belief that Mary was without sin. So
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're talking about the virgin birth.
Speaker 3: Correct, Okay?
Speaker 4: Correct?
Speaker 3: And I being Jewish and being a follower of you
Speaker 3: and trying my best anyway and reading the Bible and
Speaker 3: attending church not the synagogue anymore, I feel that I
Speaker 3: don't know how I feel. I would like to know
Speaker 3: how you feel that I am born Jewish and I'm
Speaker 3: going to die Jewish. I'm not going to be if
Speaker 3: I was born Christian, I really could change. But I
Speaker 3: am what my birth certificate says. I am, and I
Speaker 3: feel that I am Jewish and I believe in you.
Speaker 3: I'm not a Jews for Jesus because I feel that's rude.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting way of putting.
Speaker 3: For hot dogs too.
Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of a I think the Jews for
Speaker 1: Jesus do that as kind of a wink and a
Speaker 1: smile to explain, to help people through what sounds confusing
Speaker 1: but isn't really you know, if Jews didn't follow me,
Speaker 1: then there wouldn't be Christianity. It's it's started in Israel
Speaker 1: out of Judaism and cannot exist separate from that. The
Speaker 1: entire of what Christians refer to as the Old Testament
Speaker 1: are the parts of the Jewish Bible, so it's you
Speaker 1: can't separate it from a Christians point of view. Now,
Speaker 1: as a Jew, you can be as you know, many
Speaker 1: friends will say that aren't practicing Jews. They say I'm
Speaker 1: not really a Jew on Jewish, implying that they don't
Speaker 1: really participate in all the practices now in your particular case,
Speaker 1: you're a Jew by birth. That's an ethnicity as well
Speaker 1: as a religion, and a lot of people get that confused.
Speaker 1: So you can be of a different religion and still
Speaker 1: be a Jew by birth, by ethnicity. So you can say, listen,
Speaker 1: I am a Jew who believes that the Messiah that
Speaker 1: was spoken about in what Christians refer to as the
Speaker 1: Old Testament points to Yeshua being Kamsie being the Messiah.
Speaker 1: So that's going to be a place where you stand.
Speaker 1: And they aren't contradictory. And it doesn't offend God for
Speaker 1: you to say that you're Jewish any more than it
Speaker 1: offends God for me to say I'm Jewish.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you very much, Jesus.
Speaker 1: You're very very welcome, and I think it's fantastic that
Speaker 1: you called.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I wouldn't miss I wouldn't miss a
Speaker 3: Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: Ah, bless you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Go in peace, my friend. That is wonderful. And people
Speaker 1: get those confused, Well, you can't be a Christian Jew,
Speaker 1: and that's not true because the Christian part just means
Speaker 1: follower of the Messiah, and so this is just a
Speaker 1: Jewish person Jewish of ethnicity that believes the Messiah that
Speaker 1: was spoken about or promised in scripture is referring to me.
Speaker 1: And there are those Jews, modern day Jews that believe
Speaker 1: the Messiah has not yet come. They're not Christians. So
Speaker 1: it's not really as confounding as it may seem. Philip,
Speaker 1: welcome to Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: Show yes now. Now, believers are instructed that God loved
Speaker 4: the world, that's John three point sixteen. And yet our
Speaker 4: believers are instructed to love not the world or the
Speaker 4: things in it. That's one John two fifteen. And at
Speaker 4: the same time, over and over, believers are instructed to
Speaker 4: love your neighbors, yourself.
Speaker 1: Yes, so all correct.
Speaker 4: Okay, So how does God love the world and believers
Speaker 4: are not to love the world? And is that first
Speaker 4: John two fifteen. Is that sort of a scriptural separation
Speaker 4: of church and state.
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's more a proper usage of the word
Speaker 1: and the word in context. The word cosmos there that
Speaker 1: means world in one John two fifteen is translated at
Speaker 1: different times to mean people. Sometimes it means the world,
Speaker 1: like the accumulative attitude and essence of the world versus people,
Speaker 1: the people of the world, and it's the same the
Speaker 1: way you may use it as well. Sometimes when you're
Speaker 1: talking about this world is crazy, you may be talking
Speaker 1: about the collective attitude or the things that are going on.
Speaker 1: But then when you say love the world, you're talking
Speaker 1: about the people in it, the individuals in it, and
Speaker 1: that's what's going on. And the difference between all the
Speaker 1: verses that you're talking about. And God makes this clear
Speaker 1: as you read on, as you continue to read on
Speaker 1: and you see other references. It's talking about the difference,
Speaker 1: for instance, of love, especially in its context. If you
Speaker 1: have a child, it's just hypothetically, you have a child,
Speaker 1: you love that child. Now let's say that child becomes
Speaker 1: a drug addict. Do you love that your son is
Speaker 1: a drug addict? No, but you still love your child.
Speaker 1: So loving them actively would mean to do everything you
Speaker 1: could to get them off of drugs. So you're not
Speaker 1: loving what they're doing, you're not participating in what they're doing,
Speaker 1: but you're loving them still. Now, there are those that
Speaker 1: will reject that love. Maybe a child would reject that
Speaker 1: and go their own way, and you would still love them,
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't actively love them in the same way
Speaker 1: because you're not going to have a relationship with them
Speaker 1: because they're going to be doing something destructive. So what
Speaker 1: God is saying in One John two fifteen is that
Speaker 1: if you love the world in the sense that you
Speaker 1: love everything about it, that you don't you want the temporal,
Speaker 1: You want it now, you want it on your time,
Speaker 1: you want it in your way. You don't want to
Speaker 1: wait for God's plan, you don't want to wait for
Speaker 1: the things of heaven, you don't want any of that.
Speaker 1: Then you're lost. But the people in it you should
Speaker 1: always be fighting for somewhere. You should be loving them
Speaker 1: in a way that brings them into the Kingdom, not
Speaker 1: loving them in a way that brings you to them
Speaker 1: to be sitting and wallowing in the things that are
Speaker 1: not of God. The same way with the analogy that
Speaker 1: if you're loving a child that's on drugs, you're trying
Speaker 1: to love them out of drugs. You're not trying to
Speaker 1: love them in their addiction. And that's the difference between
Speaker 1: these different verses. It's talking about loving people out of
Speaker 1: that world mindset, but the term world at different times
Speaker 1: is talking about the people in it, or the accumulative
Speaker 1: effect of all those people doing the sin.
Speaker 4: So John three point sixteen is the people or yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not about otherwise that the world is temporal.
Speaker 1: It's not about God loving a thing in that sense.
Speaker 4: And one John two fifteen is not the people.
Speaker 1: It's about it's yeah, it's about the collective. It's talking
Speaker 1: about the world, like the attitude. And oftentimes you'll read
Speaker 1: in scripture where it's talking about the world meaning as
Speaker 1: the flesh the worldly ways. Uh Paul said, the spirit
Speaker 1: is willing, but the flesh is weak. Now does that
Speaker 1: mean that you only love someone's spirit and you hate
Speaker 1: their flesh. No, it means that the flesh is the
Speaker 1: part of the body that continues to want to do
Speaker 1: the things that satisfies it and it alone. So there
Speaker 1: is that separation. So when God's talking about certain things,
Speaker 1: you'll see at times God is talking about the collective people,
Speaker 1: and there's times where God's talking about the attitude of
Speaker 1: the sin nature of the people on the planet. Okay,
Speaker 1: And they're very different. And you can see in context
Speaker 1: if you read a little bit before and a little
Speaker 1: bit after, you'll see that it specifically separates the type
Speaker 1: of love, the context of the love and how it
Speaker 1: should be applied and in this case, it's saying that
Speaker 1: if you love the things of the world, you automatically
Speaker 1: reject God. Just like if you loved your child in
Speaker 1: the way that you wanted them to take drugs, you're
Speaker 1: hating them because you're doing something that's participating in their
Speaker 1: destruction and that's no longer love. So if you just said, well,
Speaker 1: loving them is letting them do whatever they want, No,
Speaker 1: that would be destruction of your child. You see the difference. Yeah, okay, excellent, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. You're welcome. That was an excellent question.
Speaker 1: And oftentimes you have to use scripture to interpret itself.
Speaker 1: People say, well, you know there's something, there's interpretation that
Speaker 1: needs to take place in scripture. Yeah, sure, there is,
Speaker 1: now in many things. There's not many things. It's it's
Speaker 1: quite simple and usually it tells you. However, what you
Speaker 1: do is use the rest of scripture to explain it
Speaker 1: or to shed light on it. If you you know,
Speaker 1: if you just make it about that one scripture, you're
Speaker 1: going to have a problem. It's one statement in the
Speaker 1: midst of many many statements that have to be seen
Speaker 1: together in harmony to be understood. Leslie, Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Jesus christ show.
Speaker 5: Oh, Hi, Hi Leslie, Hi Jesus, how can I help you? Well,
Speaker 5: I have I'm fifty nine years old. I have a
Speaker 5: daughter who's thirty five. She's pregnant, and she's decided to
Speaker 5: put a healthy distance between us because I smoked cigarettes.
Speaker 5: But I've quit now for six weeks. And I have
Speaker 5: a boyfriend that she doesn't approve of, okay, and he's
Speaker 5: a very good person.
Speaker 1: Why does she not approve of him?
Speaker 5: Well, I was married to a very famous rock and
Speaker 5: roll star for twenty five years, okay, And I have
Speaker 5: I have some money.
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that her father.
Speaker 5: Her he adopted her when she was four, okay, and
Speaker 5: then I had another child with him when she was six.
Speaker 5: And her biological father was also a rock and roll star.
Speaker 5: But anyway, that but the thing is is the boyfriend
Speaker 5: is I'm Christian. I was confirmed and baptized Lutheran.
Speaker 1: Okay. Is a boyfriend or rock and roll star?
Speaker 5: No, okay, just an actor? And and uh he's he's
Speaker 5: he's black. I'm white. I'm very very white, okay, very
Speaker 5: very black.
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm not sure or what they has to do
Speaker 1: with it, but I appreciate every little bit of insight.
Speaker 1: So your daughter right now.
Speaker 5: I don't don't like him racism.
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't think she hasn't said that it has
Speaker 1: anything to do with with any of that.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think to do with racism at all.
Speaker 5: I think it has to do with I have money.
Speaker 5: He doesn't have as much. And she's I've been divorced
Speaker 5: for ten years now, okay, and I've gone I've dated
Speaker 5: for different people. But she always thinks that they're going
Speaker 5: to take financial advantage of me.
Speaker 1: Well do they? Well, you can solve that just by
Speaker 1: not never giving any money.
Speaker 5: I just I'm a generous person and I haven't gone
Speaker 5: poor or anything, and and you know.
Speaker 1: I so she's fearful, but I don't understand how that
Speaker 1: that ties into her having a baby and whether she
Speaker 1: wants the baby around or not.
Speaker 5: She's just worried that I'm going to be taking advantage
Speaker 5: of and she doesn't trust this person, and I.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a different thing now if she's using the
Speaker 1: baby to leverage your decisions in life. Yeah, that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily fair. However, she has the right as the mother
Speaker 1: of the child to say that I don't want it
Speaker 1: around an environment that I don't feel as secure. And
Speaker 1: if if you're dating the way you date, and people
Speaker 1: are coming in and leaving and and.
Speaker 5: Dec to quit everything and do everything she wants me
Speaker 5: to do, and well, that's not healthy.
Speaker 1: That's not healthy either unless you see them. You can't
Speaker 1: see it as doing what she wants and or needs.
Speaker 1: You have to see it as if there is a problem,
Speaker 1: that you are doing something that's not productive for your
Speaker 1: life and changing it. You can't change it for her.
Speaker 1: She could be a catalyst, or she could be a
Speaker 1: point of understanding for you and help you see something,
Speaker 1: but you can't do it just for her because then
Speaker 1: you're not learning anything either.
Speaker 5: Well, I would do anything for her and for this.
Speaker 1: Child, I understand that. But for instance, let's say you
Speaker 1: were doing drugs and she said, I don't want the
Speaker 1: baby around you because you're doing drugs, and you said, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to give up everything because I just
Speaker 1: want to see that baby. That's fine. You still end
Speaker 1: up stopping the drugs, but you don't understand that the
Speaker 1: drugs are wrong to begin with. So if there is
Speaker 1: a problem with the way you date or the people
Speaker 1: you date, you should take the time to look at
Speaker 1: that she's your daughter, she loves you, and she's trying
Speaker 1: to point out something. Now, it's not proper that she's
Speaker 1: using the baby for leverage if that's the case, but
Speaker 1: it is proper if she's saying, as the mother of
Speaker 1: this child, I don't want them near you because you're unstable.
Speaker 1: You tend to bring people in your life that aren't
Speaker 1: good for you. They end up living off of you.
Speaker 1: You and anybody who would live off of you is
Speaker 1: not the type of person or the type of character
Speaker 1: that I want my child around. And you have to
Speaker 1: recognize that if that is indeed a problem. If it's not,
Speaker 1: then there's something going on with your daughter. But by
Speaker 1: the sounds of things, you're the one that goes from
Speaker 1: person to person to person, and they all seem to
Speaker 1: be in a certain category of engaged in fame or
Speaker 1: seeking fame. And you know, that tells me a little
Speaker 1: something as well as to the type of people that
Speaker 1: you tend to gravitate towards. And I think that your daughter,
Speaker 1: by the sounds of things, the information that you're giving me,
Speaker 1: is concerned mostly about you and the way you are
Speaker 1: currently living, and doesn't want to be that around that
Speaker 1: or doesn't want a child around that.
Speaker 5: I guess so. But he's a very good man, and
Speaker 5: I'm gonna you know, I've alway already started to segue
Speaker 5: him out of my life, and I've quit smoking, and
Speaker 5: I have, you know, just tried to do everything she
Speaker 5: wants me to do because it's the most important thing
Speaker 5: I understand.
Speaker 1: But it can't be because she wants it. It has
Speaker 1: to be because either right or wrong. And if you're
Speaker 1: not learning that, then you're going to be back to
Speaker 1: square one sooner or later. So you need to do
Speaker 1: a checklist of the things going on in your life
Speaker 1: and really listen to what she has, what she's been
Speaker 1: telling you, and see either one it's true and that
Speaker 1: you bring people into your life that aren't necessarily the
Speaker 1: best for you, and if so, you need to find
Speaker 1: out why or it's not true, and you need to
Speaker 1: find out why your daughter would leverage a grandchild in
Speaker 1: such situation. I don't think he has anything to do
Speaker 1: with the skin color or anything like that. I think
Speaker 1: it sounds like a pattern of sorts with you, Leslie,
Speaker 1: and strip some things from your life that aren't good.
Speaker 1: The smoking, absolutely, it's good to get that out of
Speaker 1: your system, nasty, nasty habit, and one that could be
Speaker 1: quite detrimental to your health. So good that that's off
Speaker 1: the list. Continue down that path and check your relationships
Speaker 1: and see if they're healthy or productive or any of
Speaker 1: these things, and maybe maybe they're not. Whenever you're in
Speaker 1: any kind of relationship, you're going to have push and pull.
Speaker 1: Parental relationships a difficult one as well, because the dynamics
Speaker 1: in them change. That's part of the uniqueness of that
Speaker 1: type of relationship that as the child gets older, the
Speaker 1: dynamic in the relationship changes because the position of the
Speaker 1: individuals change. I went through this with my mother as well,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people miss this subtlety. At the
Speaker 1: wedding of Cana when my mother Mary asked me to
Speaker 1: do a miracle, right, this would have been the first miracle.
Speaker 1: This is me making water into wine and essentially saving
Speaker 1: face for this family who was in the middle of
Speaker 1: their wedding. And I said, a woman, do you not
Speaker 1: know that it is not my time? And this was
Speaker 1: a change in our relationship status as well as I
Speaker 1: was going to be moving now once I did that miracle,
Speaker 1: I was going to be moving towards that messiah ship role.
Speaker 1: And that that would change from there on out our
Speaker 1: relationship and those subtleties are seen in scripture when you look.
Speaker 1: But every parental relationship goes through certain things and certain
Speaker 1: changes as the child becomes an adult child. So that's
Speaker 1: difficult to begin with. And if the parents are no
Speaker 1: longer married or there's a divorce, or somebody is widowed,
Speaker 1: then it throws into more complications when someone starts to date,
Speaker 1: because now it's a family unit, a very intimate unit
Speaker 1: by design that has been opened up to a stranger, essentially,
Speaker 1: at least by some of the parties. So you get
Speaker 1: a parent who's now dating someone, and they may be
Speaker 1: intimate with that person or have that type of relationship,
Speaker 1: and it can change completely. Now we could have gotten
Speaker 1: to a whole bunch of other things with that leslie
Speaker 1: as to what kind of relationship this is and if
Speaker 1: you guys are living together and all of those things.
Speaker 1: There was much more to it, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: stay focused on the question at hand because I think
Speaker 1: in a broad sense, this affects a lot of people
Speaker 1: that are looking that have maybe been widowed or divorced
Speaker 1: and bring people into their lives. Now you may trust
Speaker 1: people these people that are coming into your lives, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that your loved ones do. Doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that your children, your adult children will and it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that others will as well, and they may not
Speaker 1: know this person the same way, and so it's going
Speaker 1: to be a different reaction. You can't just say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I love when people do that with their animals.
Speaker 1: Oh this is I know he barks, and I know
Speaker 1: he growls, and I know he shows his teeth, but
Speaker 1: he's just a little lovey puppy. Well to you, maybe,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean he's going to treat everybody that way.
Speaker 1: And that's the same when a man brings a new
Speaker 1: woman into a relationship a family unit, or a woman
Speaker 1: brings a new man into a relationship or family unit.
Speaker 1: It changes the dynamic and people start to put up
Speaker 1: their guard because they don't know these people, and so
Speaker 1: the complication. I wish things would have st the way
Speaker 1: I designed them to stay, but unfortunately that's not how
Speaker 1: people work. And you start bringing these things in, then
Speaker 1: it will change quite dramatically how people react to you.
Speaker 1: And you have to expect that. And I know that
Speaker 1: you're just trying to stave off loneliness, but understand that
Speaker 1: there's commitments that are still made to the family unit
Speaker 1: that should be upheld. Hi, you Bill, how can I
Speaker 1: help you?
Speaker 6: A pleasure to be with you?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 6: You know? I just I've married a beautiful woman twenty
Speaker 6: four years ago and we have a beautiful Christian family.
Speaker 6: But the biggest divide we have is she was born
Speaker 6: in Day, going the ad venice on the Sabbath on Saturday,
Speaker 6: and I'm a Sunday worship Burnham and involved in my
Speaker 6: church with two ministries, and she loves her church, but
Speaker 6: it's just the Sabbath is such a big issue in
Speaker 6: her life on that I'm just trying to figure how
Speaker 6: to get through this properly.
Speaker 1: Well that the Seventh day Adventists certainly focus on this
Speaker 1: and hence the name Seventh Day Adventists. But what a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand is that most modern day
Speaker 1: Christians aren't celebrating on the Sabbath. Doesn't mean that they
Speaker 1: don't keep the Sabbath holy, but modern day Christians aren't
Speaker 1: celebrating on the Sabbath. They're celebrating on the Lord's Day,
Speaker 1: which is Sunday. The Sabbath still stays on Saturday, and
Speaker 1: this causes confusion. But in the Early Church, in the
Speaker 1: Book of Acts twenty, chapter twenty, verse seven, Colossians to
Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen, you'll see that the Early Church was
Speaker 1: worshiping on different days, not just on Saturday. And so
Speaker 1: it's not like it's something new. I think that, unfortunately
Speaker 1: some groups, and some would put the Seventh day Adventists
Speaker 1: in that category, is start to almost worship the Sabbath.
Speaker 1: And it's not just about adhering to it, it's that
Speaker 1: it's becoming something else. And in Scripture Mark to twenty seven,
Speaker 1: I was very clear that the Sabbath was made for man,
Speaker 1: not man for the Sabbath, to which they would argue, yes,
Speaker 1: but it was made. It was made by God. So
Speaker 1: it was made, and it's important well in context. Strangely enough,
Speaker 1: it's the only of the ten Commandments that I never
Speaker 1: repeat later in the New Testament. And that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: it's not important. It just means that every time I
Speaker 1: talked about the Sabbath, I was mentioning that that there
Speaker 1: are things that supersede, there are things that you would do.
Speaker 1: You would save a life on the Sabbath, you would
Speaker 1: even save an animal on the Sabbath, so that there
Speaker 1: are things that are more important than that particular day,
Speaker 1: and that is that, you know, life in this case
Speaker 1: is important. And I think when people take the day
Speaker 1: that is a day of rest and make it a
Speaker 1: mandate in that concept, then they lose the fact that
Speaker 1: it is any day of rest. That particular day Sabbath
Speaker 1: just means rest and there has to be a time
Speaker 1: of rest, and that people that don't have rest uh
Speaker 1: do themselves a great disservice. Correct. Don't you think Bill
Speaker 1: that if you don't take time off that you're going
Speaker 1: to just wear yourself down. It's the same concept of
Speaker 1: the Sabbath, and to keep it holy was to make
Speaker 1: it separate, to keep it separate from everything else and
Speaker 1: make it an important time. And that's not to say
Speaker 1: that Christians don't do that. But the Lord's Day came
Speaker 1: after the resurrection, and that is the day that most
Speaker 1: Christians celebrate on. So it's different and you guys celebrate differently.
Speaker 1: But I think that it would be silly to get
Speaker 1: an argument as to in it meets the it misses
Speaker 1: the entire spirit of the Sabbath to begin with. To
Speaker 1: get into that, but Seventh Day at Ventis have some
Speaker 1: issues that that I would point at as well. Some
Speaker 1: of them feel that God doesn't want don't doesn't want
Speaker 1: them to eat meat, and some have dietary restrictions when
Speaker 1: scripture talks about that not being the case anymore. And
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of things, and it's tough, and it's
Speaker 1: interesting to see how close you guys are on so much.
Speaker 1: Yet something like this would still be, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of a thorn in the flesh. Well, I would say
Speaker 1: this is doctrinally, you're just going to be different than
Speaker 1: she is. And I don't think she's going to take
Speaker 1: my word for it over the program either, because she
Speaker 1: has doctrine coming from her particular church. And this is
Speaker 1: something that comes up on the show from time to time.
Speaker 1: But can simply explain that modern day Christians mostly celebrate
Speaker 1: the Lord's Day, which is the Resurrection, and not the
Speaker 1: end of the week, which is Saturday and the Sabbath.
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Speaker 1: more importantly than all the craziness that goes on in
Speaker 1: the world, these simple words I say to you. I
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