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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM on demand. James, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Jesus Christ Show.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>So, I'm well, James, how can I help you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know this is going to be different for you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm currently incarcerated. I've been locked up for about

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<v Speaker 2>three years now and I'm currently in a criminally in

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<v Speaker 2>faian facility, and so I know it's probably the first

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<v Speaker 2>time you've ever received a call from a place like this.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. But normally I hear a beep, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are they don't. They normally have a little

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<v Speaker 1>uh a beep on there and something telling the person

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<v Speaker 1>on the other end of the line where you're calling from.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that I know what it was like. They're pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much allowed with all the access we'd use little prepaid

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<v Speaker 2>phone cards.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, But well, how can I help you, James?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still you know, I'm twenty one years old. I

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<v Speaker 2>studied the Bible a whole lot, and I've always had

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<v Speaker 2>a question. I'm very familiar with the Genesis and the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth chapter of Genesis. It speaks about when Cain him

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<v Speaker 2>and his brother it got into and to conversation and

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<v Speaker 2>he killed his brother and they said that they came

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<v Speaker 2>to fled from the land from the presence of the Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>and he dwelt in the landa nod where he met

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<v Speaker 2>his wife as she buried his child. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>always curious, where did his wife come from?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people kind of skip over this, and

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's not of great importance. Obviously, canaan Abele

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<v Speaker 1>are of importance because it deals with the first murder, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that becomes a more important part of the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>of what's going on in scripture. But other things kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fall by the wayside because they're of less importance

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<v Speaker 1>to explain certain more moral character of man or certain

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<v Speaker 1>importance about the history of man, so they aren't as highlighted,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. So in this particular case, it's it's right

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<v Speaker 1>under your nose. And Genesis five four it says that

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<v Speaker 1>Adam begot sons and daughters, so it's talking about it's

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<v Speaker 1>people think that Adam and Eve only had two kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they had Cain and Abel, and that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case. That's just because that's important. The other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of left, as I said, by the wayside.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this case, you see that there are sons

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<v Speaker 1>and daughters. So prepare yourself because this gets a little

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<v Speaker 1>weird that Kane married a sister, or depending on when

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<v Speaker 1>he got married, could have married a niece. Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>then that you know you study scripture, it's proper to

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<v Speaker 1>follow that up with well, wait a second, isn't that incest?

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<v Speaker 1>And doesn't the Bible condemn incest? But interestingly enough, that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>That condemnation doesn't come until Leviticus eighteen, so that that

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<v Speaker 1>particular condemnation was long, long after a thousand years or

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<v Speaker 1>so after this. So the reason was that to perpetuate

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<v Speaker 1>and put people on this planet, incest was necessary. Once

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<v Speaker 1>that had been fulfilled, then God said no more, it's

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<v Speaker 1>no longer necessary and put the kibosh on that and

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<v Speaker 1>actually put that into scripture and the levitical law. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is where Canon got his wife, and why it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay that it's his sister.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't happen, didn't happen again after no abided art and

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<v Speaker 2>great flood happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, but then you have concerns. You have concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about similar things, but you had non You had other

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities as well that were different than the original case.

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<v Speaker 1>Dealing with Adam and Eve. But a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>get caught up in that and thinking that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the incest issue and so on. And although today it's

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<v Speaker 1>icky and should be icky, that at the time in

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<v Speaker 1>the process that it was purposeful God allowed it. Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Jesus. You're talking about this morning about the narrow

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<v Speaker 3>door and the wide door. Yes, And I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish and as am I spread the word Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in that you came and you saved me.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe you're a maculate conception and that you died

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<v Speaker 3>on the cross for my sins, and that I am

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<v Speaker 3>saved through your blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. The immaculate conception actually deals with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people get this confused with the virgin birth. Maculate conception

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<v Speaker 1>is a Catholic belief that Mary was without sin. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming you're talking about the virgin birth.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>And I being Jewish and being a follower of you

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<v Speaker 3>and trying my best anyway and reading the Bible and

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<v Speaker 3>attending church not the synagogue anymore, I feel that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how I feel. I would like to know

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<v Speaker 3>how you feel that I am born Jewish and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to die Jewish. I'm not going to be if

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<v Speaker 3>I was born Christian, I really could change. But I

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<v Speaker 3>am what my birth certificate says. I am, and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel that I am Jewish and I believe in you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a Jews for Jesus because I feel that's rude.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting way of putting.

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<v Speaker 3>For hot dogs too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's kind of a I think the Jews for

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus do that as kind of a wink and a

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<v Speaker 1>smile to explain, to help people through what sounds confusing

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<v Speaker 1>but isn't really you know, if Jews didn't follow me,

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<v Speaker 1>then there wouldn't be Christianity. It's it's started in Israel

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<v Speaker 1>out of Judaism and cannot exist separate from that. The

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<v Speaker 1>entire of what Christians refer to as the Old Testament

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<v Speaker 1>are the parts of the Jewish Bible, so it's you

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<v Speaker 1>can't separate it from a Christians point of view. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as a Jew, you can be as you know, many

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<v Speaker 1>friends will say that aren't practicing Jews. They say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not really a Jew on Jewish, implying that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really participate in all the practices now in your particular case,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Jew by birth. That's an ethnicity as well

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<v Speaker 1>as a religion, and a lot of people get that confused.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can be of a different religion and still

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<v Speaker 1>be a Jew by birth, by ethnicity. So you can say, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a Jew who believes that the Messiah that

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<v Speaker 1>was spoken about in what Christians refer to as the

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<v Speaker 1>Old Testament points to Yeshua being Kamsie being the Messiah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to be a place where you stand.

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<v Speaker 1>And they aren't contradictory. And it doesn't offend God for

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<v Speaker 1>you to say that you're Jewish any more than it

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<v Speaker 1>offends God for me to say I'm Jewish.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you, thank you very much, Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very very welcome, and I think it's fantastic that

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<v Speaker 1>you called.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you. I wouldn't miss I wouldn't miss a

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, bless you. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go in peace, my friend. That is wonderful. And people

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<v Speaker 1>get those confused, Well, you can't be a Christian Jew,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not true because the Christian part just means

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<v Speaker 1>follower of the Messiah, and so this is just a

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish person Jewish of ethnicity that believes the Messiah that

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<v Speaker 1>was spoken about or promised in scripture is referring to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are those Jews, modern day Jews that believe

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<v Speaker 1>the Messiah has not yet come. They're not Christians. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really as confounding as it may seem. Philip,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 4>Show yes now. Now, believers are instructed that God loved

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<v Speaker 4>the world, that's John three point sixteen. And yet our

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<v Speaker 4>believers are instructed to love not the world or the

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<v Speaker 4>things in it. That's one John two fifteen. And at

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<v Speaker 4>the same time, over and over, believers are instructed to

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<v Speaker 4>love your neighbors, yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so all correct.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So how does God love the world and believers

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<v Speaker 4>are not to love the world? And is that first

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<v Speaker 4>John two fifteen. Is that sort of a scriptural separation

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<v Speaker 4>of church and state.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, it's more a proper usage of the word

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<v Speaker 1>and the word in context. The word cosmos there that

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<v Speaker 1>means world in one John two fifteen is translated at

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<v Speaker 1>different times to mean people. Sometimes it means the world,

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<v Speaker 1>like the accumulative attitude and essence of the world versus people,

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<v Speaker 1>the people of the world, and it's the same the

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<v Speaker 1>way you may use it as well. Sometimes when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this world is crazy, you may be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the collective attitude or the things that are going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when you say love the world, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the people in it, the individuals in it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's going on. And the difference between all the

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<v Speaker 1>verses that you're talking about. And God makes this clear

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<v Speaker 1>as you read on, as you continue to read on

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<v Speaker 1>and you see other references. It's talking about the difference,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, of love, especially in its context. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have a child, it's just hypothetically, you have a child,

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<v Speaker 1>you love that child. Now let's say that child becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a drug addict. Do you love that your son is

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<v Speaker 1>a drug addict? No, but you still love your child.

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<v Speaker 1>So loving them actively would mean to do everything you

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<v Speaker 1>could to get them off of drugs. So you're not

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<v Speaker 1>loving what they're doing, you're not participating in what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're loving them still. Now, there are those that

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<v Speaker 1>will reject that love. Maybe a child would reject that

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<v Speaker 1>and go their own way, and you would still love them,

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<v Speaker 1>but you wouldn't actively love them in the same way

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not going to have a relationship with them

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<v Speaker 1>because they're going to be doing something destructive. So what

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<v Speaker 1>God is saying in One John two fifteen is that

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<v Speaker 1>if you love the world in the sense that you

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<v Speaker 1>love everything about it, that you don't you want the temporal,

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<v Speaker 1>You want it now, you want it on your time,

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<v Speaker 1>you want it in your way. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>wait for God's plan, you don't want to wait for

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<v Speaker 1>the things of heaven, you don't want any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're lost. But the people in it you should

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<v Speaker 1>always be fighting for somewhere. You should be loving them

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that brings them into the Kingdom, not

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<v Speaker 1>loving them in a way that brings you to them

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<v Speaker 1>to be sitting and wallowing in the things that are

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<v Speaker 1>not of God. The same way with the analogy that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're loving a child that's on drugs, you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to love them out of drugs. You're not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>love them in their addiction. And that's the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>these different verses. It's talking about loving people out of

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<v Speaker 1>that world mindset, but the term world at different times

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<v Speaker 1>is talking about the people in it, or the accumulative

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<v Speaker 1>effect of all those people doing the sin.

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<v Speaker 4>So John three point sixteen is the people or yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's not about otherwise that the world is temporal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about God loving a thing in that sense.

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<v Speaker 4>And one John two fifteen is not the people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about it's yeah, it's about the collective. It's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the world, like the attitude. And oftentimes you'll read

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<v Speaker 1>in scripture where it's talking about the world meaning as

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<v Speaker 1>the flesh the worldly ways. Uh Paul said, the spirit

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<v Speaker 1>is willing, but the flesh is weak. Now does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean that you only love someone's spirit and you hate

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<v Speaker 1>their flesh. No, it means that the flesh is the

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<v Speaker 1>part of the body that continues to want to do

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<v Speaker 1>the things that satisfies it and it alone. So there

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<v Speaker 1>is that separation. So when God's talking about certain things,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see at times God is talking about the collective people,

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<v Speaker 1>And they're very different. And you can see in context

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<v Speaker 1>hating them because you're doing something that's participating in their

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<v Speaker 1>loving them is letting them do whatever they want, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be destruction of your child. You see the difference. Yeah, okay, excellent, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. You're welcome. That was an excellent question.

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<v Speaker 1>And oftentimes you have to use scripture to interpret itself.

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<v Speaker 1>needs to take place in scripture. Yeah, sure, there is,

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<v Speaker 1>now in many things. There's not many things. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>midst of many many statements that have to be seen

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<v Speaker 1>together in harmony to be understood. Leslie, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, Hi, Hi Leslie, Hi Jesus, how can I help you? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I have I'm fifty nine years old. I have a

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<v Speaker 5>daughter who's thirty five. She's pregnant, and she's decided to

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<v Speaker 5>put a healthy distance between us because I smoked cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 5>But I've quit now for six weeks. And I have

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<v Speaker 5>a boyfriend that she doesn't approve of, okay, and he's

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<v Speaker 5>a very good person.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does she not approve of him?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I was married to a very famous rock and

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<v Speaker 5>roll star for twenty five years, okay, And I have

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<v Speaker 5>I have some money.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that her father.

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<v Speaker 5>Her he adopted her when she was four, okay, and

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<v Speaker 5>then I had another child with him when she was six.

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<v Speaker 5>And her biological father was also a rock and roll star.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, that but the thing is is the boyfriend

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<v Speaker 5>is I'm Christian. I was confirmed and baptized Lutheran.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Is a boyfriend or rock and roll star?

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<v Speaker 5>No, okay, just an actor? And and uh he's he's

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<v Speaker 5>he's black. I'm white. I'm very very white, okay, very

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<v Speaker 5>very black.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I'm not sure or what they has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it, but I appreciate every little bit of insight.

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<v Speaker 1>So your daughter right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't don't like him racism.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you don't think she hasn't said that it has

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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't think to do with racism at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it has to do with I have money.

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<v Speaker 5>He doesn't have as much. And she's I've been divorced

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<v Speaker 5>for ten years now, okay, and I've gone I've dated

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<v Speaker 5>for different people. But she always thinks that they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to take financial advantage of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well do they? Well, you can solve that just by

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<v Speaker 1>not never giving any money.

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<v Speaker 5>I just I'm a generous person and I haven't gone

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<v Speaker 5>poor or anything, and and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I so she's fearful, but I don't understand how that

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<v Speaker 1>that ties into her having a baby and whether she

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<v Speaker 1>wants the baby around or not.

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<v Speaker 5>She's just worried that I'm going to be taking advantage

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<v Speaker 5>of and she doesn't trust this person, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a different thing now if she's using the

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<v Speaker 1>baby to leverage your decisions in life. Yeah, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily fair. However, she has the right as the mother

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<v Speaker 1>of the child to say that I don't want it

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<v Speaker 1>around an environment that I don't feel as secure. And

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<v Speaker 1>if if you're dating the way you date, and people

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<v Speaker 1>are coming in and leaving and and.

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<v Speaker 5>Dec to quit everything and do everything she wants me

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<v Speaker 5>to do, and well, that's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not healthy either unless you see them. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>see it as doing what she wants and or needs.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to see it as if there is a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>that you are doing something that's not productive for your

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<v Speaker 1>life and changing it. You can't change it for her.

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<v Speaker 1>She could be a catalyst, or she could be a

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<v Speaker 1>point of understanding for you and help you see something,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't do it just for her because then

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<v Speaker 1>you're not learning anything either.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I would do anything for her and for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Child, I understand that. But for instance, let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing drugs and she said, I don't want the

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<v Speaker 1>baby around you because you're doing drugs, and you said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to give up everything because I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to see that baby. That's fine. You still end

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<v Speaker 1>up stopping the drugs, but you don't understand that the

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<v Speaker 1>drugs are wrong to begin with. So if there is

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with the way you date or the people

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<v Speaker 1>you date, you should take the time to look at

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<v Speaker 1>that she's your daughter, she loves you, and she's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to point out something. Now, it's not proper that she's

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<v Speaker 1>using the baby for leverage if that's the case, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is proper if she's saying, as the mother of

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<v Speaker 1>this child, I don't want them near you because you're unstable.

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<v Speaker 1>You tend to bring people in your life that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>good for you. They end up living off of you.

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<v Speaker 1>You and anybody who would live off of you is

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<v Speaker 1>not the type of person or the type of character

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<v Speaker 1>that I want my child around. And you have to

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that if that is indeed a problem. If it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>then there's something going on with your daughter. But by

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<v Speaker 1>the sounds of things, you're the one that goes from

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<v Speaker 1>person to person to person, and they all seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a certain category of engaged in fame or

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<v Speaker 1>seeking fame. And you know, that tells me a little

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<v Speaker 1>something as well as to the type of people that

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<v Speaker 1>you tend to gravitate towards. And I think that your daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>by the sounds of things, the information that you're giving me,

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned mostly about you and the way you are

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<v Speaker 1>currently living, and doesn't want to be that around that

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<v Speaker 1>or doesn't want a child around that.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess so. But he's a very good man, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna you know, I've alway already started to segue

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<v Speaker 5>him out of my life, and I've quit smoking, and

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<v Speaker 5>I have, you know, just tried to do everything she

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<v Speaker 5>wants me to do because it's the most important thing

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<v Speaker 5>I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>But it can't be because she wants it. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to be because either right or wrong. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not learning that, then you're going to be back to

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<v Speaker 1>square one sooner or later. So you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>a checklist of the things going on in your life

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<v Speaker 1>and really listen to what she has, what she's been

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, and see either one it's true and that

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<v Speaker 1>you bring people into your life that aren't necessarily the

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<v Speaker 1>best for you, and if so, you need to find

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<v Speaker 1>out why or it's not true, and you need to

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<v Speaker 1>find out why your daughter would leverage a grandchild in

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<v Speaker 1>such situation. I don't think he has anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the skin color or anything like that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a pattern of sorts with you, Leslie,

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<v Speaker 1>and strip some things from your life that aren't good.

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<v Speaker 1>The smoking, absolutely, it's good to get that out of

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<v Speaker 1>your system, nasty, nasty habit, and one that could be

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<v Speaker 1>quite detrimental to your health. So good that that's off

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<v Speaker 1>the list. Continue down that path and check your relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and see if they're healthy or productive or any of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, and maybe maybe they're not. Whenever you're in

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of relationship, you're going to have push and pull.

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<v Speaker 1>Parental relationships a difficult one as well, because the dynamics

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<v Speaker 1>in them change. That's part of the uniqueness of that

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<v Speaker 1>type of relationship that as the child gets older, the

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic in the relationship changes because the position of the

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<v Speaker 1>individuals change. I went through this with my mother as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people miss this subtlety. At the

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<v Speaker 1>wedding of Cana when my mother Mary asked me to

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<v Speaker 1>do a miracle, right, this would have been the first miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>This is me making water into wine and essentially saving

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<v Speaker 1>face for this family who was in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>their wedding. And I said, a woman, do you not

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<v Speaker 1>know that it is not my time? And this was

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<v Speaker 1>a change in our relationship status as well as I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be moving now once I did that miracle,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to be moving towards that messiah ship role.

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<v Speaker 1>And that that would change from there on out our

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and those subtleties are seen in scripture when you look.

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<v Speaker 1>But every parental relationship goes through certain things and certain

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<v Speaker 1>changes as the child becomes an adult child. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to begin with. And if the parents are no

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<v Speaker 1>longer married or there's a divorce, or somebody is widowed,

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<v Speaker 1>then it throws into more complications when someone starts to date,

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<v Speaker 1>because now it's a family unit, a very intimate unit

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<v Speaker 1>by design that has been opened up to a stranger, essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>at least by some of the parties. So you get

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<v Speaker 1>a parent who's now dating someone, and they may be

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<v Speaker 1>intimate with that person or have that type of relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can change completely. Now we could have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to a whole bunch of other things with that leslie

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<v Speaker 1>as to what kind of relationship this is and if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are living together and all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>There was much more to it, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>stay focused on the question at hand because I think

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<v Speaker 1>in a broad sense, this affects a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are looking that have maybe been widowed or divorced

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<v Speaker 1>and bring people into their lives. Now you may trust

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<v Speaker 1>people these people that are coming into your lives, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that your loved ones do. Doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that your children, your adult children will and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that others will as well, and they may not

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<v Speaker 1>know this person the same way, and so it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a different reaction. You can't just say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean he's going to treat everybody that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the same when a man brings a new

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<v Speaker 1>brings a new man into a relationship or family unit.

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<v Speaker 1>It changes the dynamic and people start to put up

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<v Speaker 1>the complication. I wish things would have st the way

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<v Speaker 1>I designed them to stay, but unfortunately that's not how

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<v Speaker 1>it will change quite dramatically how people react to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have to expect that. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're just trying to stave off loneliness, but understand that

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<v Speaker 1>there's commitments that are still made to the family unit

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<v Speaker 1>that should be upheld. Hi, you Bill, how can I

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<v Speaker 6>You know? I just I've married a beautiful woman twenty

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<v Speaker 6>four years ago and we have a beautiful Christian family.

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<v Speaker 6>But the biggest divide we have is she was born

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<v Speaker 6>in Day, going the ad venice on the Sabbath on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm a Sunday worship Burnham and involved in my

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<v Speaker 6>church with two ministries, and she loves her church, but

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<v Speaker 6>it's just the Sabbath is such a big issue in

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<v Speaker 6>her life on that I'm just trying to figure how

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<v Speaker 6>to get through this properly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that the Seventh day Adventists certainly focus on this

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<v Speaker 1>and hence the name Seventh Day Adventists. But what a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't understand is that most modern day

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<v Speaker 1>Christians aren't celebrating on the Sabbath. Doesn't mean that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't keep the Sabbath holy, but modern day Christians aren't

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating on the Sabbath. They're celebrating on the Lord's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Sunday. The Sabbath still stays on Saturday, and

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<v Speaker 1>this causes confusion. But in the Early Church, in the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Acts twenty, chapter twenty, verse seven, Colossians to

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen and seventeen, you'll see that the Early Church was

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<v Speaker 1>worshiping on different days, not just on Saturday. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like it's something new. I think that, unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>some groups, and some would put the Seventh day Adventists

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<v Speaker 1>in that category, is start to almost worship the Sabbath.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just about adhering to it, it's that

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<v Speaker 1>it's becoming something else. And in Scripture Mark to twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>I was very clear that the Sabbath was made for man,

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<v Speaker 1>not man for the Sabbath, to which they would argue, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was made. It was made by God. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was made, and it's important well in context. Strangely enough,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the only of the ten Commandments that I never

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<v Speaker 1>repeat later in the New Testament. And that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's not important. It just means that every time I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the Sabbath, I was mentioning that that there

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<v Speaker 1>are things that supersede, there are things that you would do.

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<v Speaker 1>You would save a life on the Sabbath, you would

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<v Speaker 1>even save an animal on the Sabbath, so that there

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<v Speaker 1>are things that are more important than that particular day,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is that, you know, life in this case

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<v Speaker 1>is important. And I think when people take the day

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<v Speaker 1>that is a day of rest and make it a

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<v Speaker 1>mandate in that concept, then they lose the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it is any day of rest. That particular day Sabbath

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<v Speaker 1>just means rest and there has to be a time

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<v Speaker 1>of rest, and that people that don't have rest uh

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<v Speaker 1>do themselves a great disservice. Correct. Don't you think Bill

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<v Speaker 1>that if you don't take time off that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to just wear yourself down. It's the same concept of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sabbath, and to keep it holy was to make

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<v Speaker 1>it separate, to keep it separate from everything else and

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<v Speaker 1>make it an important time. And that's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>that Christians don't do that. But the Lord's Day came

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<v Speaker 1>after the resurrection, and that is the day that most

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<v Speaker 1>Christians celebrate on. So it's different and you guys celebrate differently.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that it would be silly to get

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<v Speaker 1>an argument as to in it meets the it misses

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<v Speaker 1>the entire spirit of the Sabbath to begin with. To

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, but Seventh Day at Ventis have some

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<v Speaker 1>issues that that I would point at as well. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them feel that God doesn't want don't doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>them to eat meat, and some have dietary restrictions when

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<v Speaker 1>scripture talks about that not being the case anymore. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of things, and it's tough, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how close you guys are on so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet something like this would still be, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a thorn in the flesh. Well, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>this is doctrinally, you're just going to be different than

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<v Speaker 1>she is. And I don't think she's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>my word for it over the program either, because she

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<v Speaker 1>has doctrine coming from her particular church. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that comes up on the show from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>But can simply explain that modern day Christians mostly celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord's Day, which is the Resurrection, and not the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the week, which is Saturday and the Sabbath.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining me. I look forward to next week. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly than all the craziness that goes on in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, these simple words I say to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>am with you always KF I A M.

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<v Speaker 4>Six forty on demand

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