WEBVTT 1 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:29.120 Hello, everybody, Welcome to That's not Matt. We're all weekly 2 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:32.320 rocking heavy music podcast and welcome here this Friday to 3 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:35.320 another edition of Hyperblast, where we are with you every Friday, 4 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:36.960 and we are letting you know what has been going 5 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:39.439 on for the last seven days or so in the 6 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:43.159 world of riffs and just plain old rocking out. Really, 7 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.039 we are going to let you know the news stories 8 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:46.759 that you're going to want to hear about our takes 9 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:48.960 on them. We're going to give you the releases of 10 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:51.640 the week as well, and a little bit later into 11 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:53.960 this show, I'm also going to be talking about my 12 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:56.159 adventures over the weekend where I went down to London 13 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.399 for Incineration Festival, one of the big staple event in 14 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:04.239 the calendar if you are into extreme and blast beats 15 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:06.799 and the like. So that is what's on today's agenda. 16 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:09.519 My name is Paren haysh across from me a real 17 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:12.439 motley crew today. Hopefully you know more more I llegally 18 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:16.000 abiding than that lot. Sam Dignon and Mark Sanderson, Hello, 19 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:16.680 how are we doing? 20 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:17.879 Yeah? 21 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:18.680 All good. 22 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:20.480 I haven't been to you know first, but I did 23 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:21.799 see Sin against Sin last week. 24 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:24.040 That was a fun, scary, hardcore gig where we were 25 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:26.480 dodging blows to the head and people were getting knocked 26 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:27.680 out in the second support band. 27 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:29.159 Oh good time, very very good. 28 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:32.519 OHI captain, how are you doing? 29 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.480 Yes, very very good. Let us we'll get to you know, 30 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:38.519 all the live music antics and all that a little 31 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:40.319 bit later on in the show, but first of all, 32 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:42.480 we're just going to kick it out with the news 33 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.799 first of all, and topping us off on this this 34 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:47.920 new story, we are going to talk about some new 35 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:50.120 records that have been announced. I for you new tracks. 36 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:52.599 First of all, I've definitely got the you know, the 37 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:55.040 right crew here for it. There is the news that 38 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:58.519 there is a new Cancer Bats album coming later this year. 39 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:00.840 It's called Give Me Dirt. Which that's really what the 40 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:02.640 Cancer Bats have been doing for the last like twenty 41 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:04.879 years at this stage, right, They've given us a whole 42 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:08.199 lot of dirt. It's coming out on August the seventh 43 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:12.479 on Marshall Records, and there's a new track from it 44 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.800 out as well, called Stay Stuck. It's their first album 45 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:18.400 in four years Psychic Jail Break in twenty twenty two, 46 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.879 which it does, you know, Countabats maybe feel like they're 47 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.120 operating at a slightly slower based pace than they did, 48 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.439 you know, in the twenty ten at their real peak 49 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:27.719 of activity. But I remember that twenty twenty two album. 50 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:29.080 I haven't gone back to it in a long time, 51 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:30.639 but I remember being pretty fun and you know, like 52 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.120 again exactly really what you'd be wanting Cantabats to be 53 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:35.800 doing these days. As I said, I've definitely got I've 54 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.199 got the counterbats contingent here to talk about this, so 55 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:42.039 excited for four new Bats based off this particular. 56 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:43.039 Track, Oh hell yeah. 57 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:44.879 I hit player on this and I was like, oh, yeah, cool, 58 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.759 this is Cancerbats doing what I want Cantabats to do. 59 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:50.159 I actually went back and listened to that last album 60 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:51.560 off the back of this track, and I was like, ah, 61 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:55.000 that this album was a ripper. All Cansabats albums are rippers, 62 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:56.960 and going off this track, I think this new one 63 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.479 might be a ripper, like they're on those bands that. 64 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:00.439 Because they have. 65 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:02.639 Slowed down now, I don't maybe spend as much time 66 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:04.759 with them as you know in the twenty tens, where 67 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.680 I was seeing them every six months and like just 68 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:11.080 having the like all cant Bats all the time, and 69 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:12.759 I kind of do miss that. But at the same 70 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:16.319 time them kind of being away a bit more speraically, 71 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:18.479 it means when they come back, I really appreciate them again. 72 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:20.919 So I'm like, ah, it's Cancer backs again and they're 73 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:23.360 doing this song. Got you know, a big, bouncy fun 74 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.960 Cansabats core has got a nasty sort of dirty riff. 75 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:29.319 It's hard but fun and just live wire and it 76 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:31.120 is exactly what I want Cansabats to do. 77 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.039 Yeah, it's it's funny because when they do come around, though, 78 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.319 it feels like a little tweat because I feel like 79 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.240 Cancer Bats are a band who we sort of take 80 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:44.000 for granted or definitely you know, we're beginning to take 81 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:48.560 for granted when they were just always around. But yeah, 82 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:54.879 new song, great classic, you know, heavy, low end, punky, 83 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.080 Cancer Bats and banger. Liam though has like an almost 84 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:02.199 like aged, like more grit in his voice. There's something 85 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:03.879 more rusty in his voice. 86 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.680 Now as as possible. 87 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:10.639 Yeah, yeah, Corus, it is big and catchy. Like have 88 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.240 we been listening to Cancer Bats since the last week pairing, Like, 89 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.279 I was just so in the headspace for this and 90 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:17.839 I've been listening to this lot. 91 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.360 Yeah, they have come out with the right time a 92 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:22.279 maybe you know, I don't want to do down counter 93 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:23.920 Bats because you know, damn look foot that record, but 94 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:28.720 maybe slightly more interesting or you know, you just discuss 95 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:31.519 in terms of, you know, what we might expect from 96 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:34.959 this band. Album also comes from Turnover, who have got 97 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.120 a very quick turnaround on their album, which is kind 98 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:41.160 of nice compared to getting, you know, seven singles from 99 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.240 an album before it comes out. Turnover I have announced 100 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:45.040 that their new record is gonna be coming at the 101 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.480 end of this month, on May the twenty ninth. It's 102 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.120 called Down on Earth, and there's two songs out from 103 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.839 that called night Jar and I See You and Realize 104 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:55.800 and Turnover. I think there was maybe a little bit 105 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:57.920 in the air when last year they were doing the 106 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.120 ten year anniversary run for perf Vision, and it felt 107 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.360 like maybe if interest had, you know, for some fans 108 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:07.000 gone elsewhere during the kind of interim years with Turnover 109 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:09.480 while they explored more kind of experimental music and stuff 110 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.360 like that. You know, it resurfaced last year a lot 111 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:14.079 of time as people went down memory lane with with 112 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.399 Peripheral Vision, and sometimes you kind of get that feeling 113 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.399 that like those stars are going to align and I 114 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:20.920 don't know, people are going to you know, all come 115 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:23.800 back together again. And so I was curious, and I 116 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:25.399 was like, is that going to you know, feed its 117 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:27.000 way into the new Turnover record, Cause that was kind 118 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:29.519 of the vibe of the game. And based on these 119 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.639 two tracks that have come in from the New Turnover record, 120 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:35.199 this is you know again, whether it's going to exactly 121 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:37.160 hit people in the way that that you know, semin 122 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:39.560 or one of those beloved records of its era will 123 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:42.560 at the very least. These songs you stick them on 124 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:45.680 and it feels like the Turnover that people immediately first 125 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.240 think of when you say the word turnover are kind 126 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:50.040 of clear an emo band. They're coming back. 127 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:52.240 They're an emo band again. 128 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:52.959 I can believe it. 129 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:54.519 When I saw Hit playing these songs, I was because 130 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:59.160 I quite like the kind of lounge music, like easy 131 00:05:59.199 --> 00:05:59.959 listening Turnover. 132 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.439 I think that there's some cool stuff on there. 133 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:04.839 But when you hear this and it's it does sound 134 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:08.160 kind of like a sort of cozy, like nice pair 135 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.600 of jeans that you just like comforting to put on 136 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.920 and you just feel good in, and like, yeah, it 137 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:16.680 kind of slips so easily back into that like really 138 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:20.560 somber warm emo tone that they're doing. 139 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:22.120 I think these two songs are are great. 140 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:25.959 I'm like cool Turnover like, I mean, clearly they wanted to, 141 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.319 you know, express themselves in different ways, experiment and try 142 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.759 different things. I think that's great and potentially is that 143 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.240 sort of thing where Revision prefer Vision got them in 144 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:36.000 the headspace to sort of write that kind of music again. 145 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:38.560 And what I think is nice about these songs is 146 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.920 it doesn't just kind of feel like chasing for at Vision, 147 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:43.519 even if it is kind of moving back in that direction, 148 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:47.040 it still feels like kind of like a current Turnover 149 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.120 sort of take on that that more emo sound. So 150 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:51.439 I think these two songs are really cool. 151 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:55.959 Yeah I have I definitely listen to every Turnover album, 152 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:00.120 but I don't remember what they sound like at all. 153 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:06.079 I just remember how sort of relaxed and sleepy they 154 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:08.480 made me. So when I put these songs on and 155 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:12.720 I was like, yeah, yeah, that's Turnover whatever completely forgetting 156 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:16.000 what they sounded like a few years ago. They've just 157 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:20.240 got a consistent sort of ability to soothe I guess, 158 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:25.319 you know, I don't think it's not peripheral Vision sort 159 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:31.160 of level of songwriting or hookiness, but it's a classic 160 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.959 Turnover relaxing Listen. I think they're pretty good. 161 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.279 Yeah. I think the song night Jar definitely off the 162 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:42.720 two of them that feels like classic, reliable, you know what, 163 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:44.399 you're a member of them. Turn Out It basically sounds 164 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.839 like they're picking up exactly where you know, the last 165 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:49.639 record in that style, Good Nature, really left off. It's 166 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.519 the second of the two tracks that's really up my 167 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.240 alley with that kind of like more like slightly peppy 168 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:56.600 eighties guitar line. It hasn't it. That is a flavor. 169 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:58.439 I really like this kind of thing. So you know, 170 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:02.439 the combination of those things together are very reliable, you know, 171 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:04.399 as you say, cozy, nice pair of Jeenes type turn 172 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:06.720 of a track and then one that ears again in 173 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:08.279 this kind of you know, emo rock vein but with 174 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:10.519 a little bit more spark in it maybe has been 175 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:13.199 like really, you know, I was curious. Now I am 176 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.000 looking forward to the turnover because you know, this band, 177 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.600 when they were in this kind of era are one 178 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:20.839 of my favorites of like that era and that lane 179 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:22.399 of you know, emo and alternative rock and stuff, and 180 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:24.240 you know, I don't get many records a year in 181 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.519 that style that really do you know, tickle my fancy 182 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:30.240 so much, so absolutely, hell yeah, I'll welcome Turnover, you know, 183 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:32.480 walking back into that lane. And I think both these 184 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.559 tracks are very promising for that And like I said, 185 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:37.799 it's coming out right at end this month, May twenty nine. Weirdly, Sam, 186 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:39.399 like you're about to go away for a little bit, 187 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.919 and all the alternative rock bands that we would norbably 188 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:43.840 be talking about, they're all choosing to release their records 189 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:45.679 like in this window. So we'll have to see which 190 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:47.279 ones we do in your absence and which ones we 191 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:49.240 like put on the boiler until they come back. 192 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:51.679 In fairness, the turn On coming right at the end 193 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:53.879 of the month means it probably would land in the. 194 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:56.720 Next It does likely. It's just that the next few 195 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:59.120 weeks they are you know, quite quite actually, you know, 196 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:00.679 sometime we go through dry spells with this stuff. But 197 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:02.039 the next few weeks do have like you know, some 198 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:05.840 emo may yeah, absolutely ema very you know again a 199 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:08.039 nice lot of promising run if that's what you're into. 200 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:10.360 But yeah, Turnover end of the month, and I would 201 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:12.000 start getting excited about now if you are like a 202 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:14.440 classic era Turnover fan, because that like looks what it's 203 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:17.120 going to be dialing into there is another new track 204 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:18.480 that I just thought I would, you know, throw a 205 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.200 mention here because I was curious about it. Emotionless in 206 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:25.159 White but a song this week featuring at Corey Taylor 207 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:27.519 on a guest vocal. Not a you know, any stranger 208 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:29.159 to guest vocals, but I do always like to check 209 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:30.960 them out, even sometimes when it's bands I don't care 210 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:32.799 about at all, like when he features on a tonight 211 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:34.679 a live song or whatever. I'd be like our Corey 212 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.279 Taylor's appeared or peppin obviously at the real great at 213 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:38.480 that end of that, you've got you know, the likes 214 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:40.679 of the code or in songs and stuff that he's 215 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:43.000 been on. But Mostless in White, one of the you know, 216 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.759 biggest metical bands of their era, Corey Taylor appears on 217 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.679 the track. The track is called Playing God. This song 218 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:51.279 made me laugh in the first five seconds of it 219 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:55.200 because I'm not a Boatless and White fan. And as 220 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.240 we have discussed, I remember we did an album Roulette 221 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:00.519 thingla Halloween one and new picked like was it Carny 222 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:03.279 Sam Like I know that people readly like the first 223 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.519 couple of Mostless and White records. I'm like you know, 224 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:07.600 I'm sort of indifferent on them, but for the last 225 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:10.679 like ten going on fifteen years now, Mostless and White 226 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.960 are the impersonation jukebox band. And that's particularly true when 227 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:17.000 they have guest vocals. Like there's the song with Danny 228 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.120 Filth where they go and do their Cradle of Filth. 229 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.000 There's just recently on the Corn special we were doing, 230 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.320 we checked into there's a Motionless and White song which 231 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:26.559 has Jonathan Davis when guest vocals, and it's like, oh, 232 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:28.159 we have to do a Corn song, and this like 233 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.679 weird instinct they do of like do they target the 234 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:34.440 guest vocalist first and then write a song based around them, 235 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:37.279 or do they just do a very flavored impersonation and go, oh, 236 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.440 we know it sounds like this, we might as well, 237 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.360 you know, make it extra redundant by getting the person involved. 238 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:46.440 Emoses of White Corey Taylor song and I put it on. 239 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:49.919 In the second those breakbeats came in. I just it 240 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.840 fully got me because like, you cheeky fuckers, you've done 241 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.279 it again. And then the slip stomp that dude dad 242 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:59.879 comes in, and without fail, every time they are just 243 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:02.200 like the fancy dress band. 244 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:06.480 It cracked me up when that when that happened hit playing, 245 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.559 I was and I said, the break beats and the 246 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:10.399 slip not riff of the stomp and all that. Like, 247 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:12.360 I was like, oh, yeah, you still you're still doing 248 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:15.799 this because again I have largely been checked out with 249 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:18.559 Most and White ever since you know, puts on the 250 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.039 fourth or fifth album when they started to give it 251 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.200 rubbish and and like particularly redundant. I do still like 252 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:25.200 the first three records, but here in this and then 253 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.879 just doing a slip of song but then kind of 254 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:31.000 getting Corey tailored to sing a lump and modern metal 255 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:32.159 court octane chorus. 256 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:33.639 I was like, ah, this is really good. 257 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:35.679 Like Cory Taylor one, like the verses when he's going 258 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.279 hard sounds like you know what you want to kind 259 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:39.519 of a hard Corey. 260 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:40.279 Taylor vocaling to do. 261 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.919 But that on top of this being another melkor song 262 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:49.360 about being mad at Twitter and online critics, I was like, guys, 263 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:51.799 you've got to get over it, all of these medical bands, 264 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.840 get over what people winge about online because you just 265 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:56.879 look gotten to and that's that. 266 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:58.000 That's just the vibe of this song. 267 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:02.080 It's a carry Oki slip knock kind of like track 268 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:04.200 that's got a couple of decent moments, but for the 269 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.960 most part just doesn't sound ever particularly convincing to me. 270 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:10.080 No, this this song would go hard on a Call 271 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:13.559 of Duty trailer from fifteen years ago, Like this song 272 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:19.240 is so wang. It's like and not that motionless and 273 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:22.960 white or you know, bastions of lyrical quality, but half 274 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.360 the song being like fuck off, just fuck right off. 275 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:28.720 I hate you, fuck off. I'm really cross at you. 276 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:32.960 It's so like, are you a toddler? Like, I don't know. 277 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:36.639 I put this song on and it is just like 278 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:40.759 listening to an AI generated slipknot song, and before Corey 279 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:42.720 Taylor came in, I was like, why am I listening 280 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.720 to this? I'm already bored. And then Corey Taylor comes 281 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.200 in and it sounds like a real song for a second, 282 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.639 Like I don't know most of this and white. I 283 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:57.879 really like Creatures because I'm shameless and from twenty twenty 284 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:02.320 to ten. But they're one of the worst bands, right, 285 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:04.360 They're so bad. 286 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:06.679 They're one of the worst bands to be as big 287 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.440 as they are. But just yeah, it's just amused me 288 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:12.279 to no end when they do the karaoke is exactly 289 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:14.559 the right term Sam and you know what happens then 290 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.919 is they take whatever impersonation they're doing and then they 291 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:19.799 stick a motionless in white chorus in the middle of it, 292 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.480 and you remember why you don't listen to them. But 293 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.120 the rest of it is just so like blatant that, 294 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:28.000 like I said, the second those breakdoaughs came in, I 295 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.919 just started just chuckling because it's just so funny. And 296 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:35.000 elsewhere you might be interested. The sludge metal band Gut, 297 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:36.879 who are like a you know, longtime part of the 298 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.600 UK scene. They're like a party sludge band and you're 299 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.279 prety frivolous. But they have put out featuring none other 300 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:45.039 than Black Myst from the Hell, a cover of the 301 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:50.039 nineties dance classic No Limit by two Unlimited. So if 302 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:53.159 you wanted to hear Black Mys going no no, no, no, 303 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:56.559 no no, it's not available to you. 304 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.759 I couldn't believe it's taken this long for this to happen. 305 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:03.320 When plan exactly what like a kind of like party 306 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:06.440 sludge metal version of No Limit would sound like with Hell, 307 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:08.519 I was like, yeah, coll this is like again the 308 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:10.759 Noven kind of wore by about two minutes in. But 309 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:12.679 I did I did get didn't get a chuckle out 310 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:13.519 of me on the first listen. 311 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:18.320 Yeah, so right, some lineup band news. This is the 312 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.120 we've got, you know, someone coming to a band and 313 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.279 someone leaving a band. The former part is the stranger one. 314 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.080 Maybe that's maybe more go a. Dragon Force have added 315 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.799 a new addition to their lineup, a new vocalist, and 316 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:33.480 this made me kind of turn my head at first, 317 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:34.559 car I was like, what happened to the last guy, 318 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:36.559 Mark Cuttoner, But he's still there, right, They've now got 319 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:40.440 two vocalists. So alongside Mark, they have added a Lissa 320 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:44.279 White Glues, the until recently Arch Enemy singer who also 321 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.279 you know, after leaving Arch Enemy, has launched like a 322 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.320 solo career. You's got some other bands and stuff going on. 323 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:52.320 But out of the blue, she is apparently joining Dragon Force, 324 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.279 and I can't I'm not entirely if this is like 325 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:56.000 a run where she's going to just do like guest 326 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:58.159 vocals for like this particular run, because I think they're 327 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.279 about to embark on a twentieth half Anniverse three in 328 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.200 human rampage right now. I don't know, she's just like 329 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:05.720 appearing to add extra vocals to that or something or 330 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:08.720 if how like how long for the foreseeable this would 331 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.399 be but really really bizarre news. Didn't know where to 332 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:14.759 kind of start with. It turns out I had missed this. 333 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:17.960 But Dragon Force's most recent album, which mark you will 334 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:21.840 remember with her much fondness, Like, at some point after that, 335 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:23.879 they put out like a deluxe special edition as bands 336 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:25.799 sometimes do with extra songs, and there's a version of 337 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.559 a song from that, unfortunately not the Space Marion's one, 338 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:30.639 but they put but they put out a version of 339 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:34.000 a song featuring Alyssa on it. Yeah, but now like 340 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.159 a year after that, she's randomly joining the band fully. 341 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:39.960 I guess I think that is fully because she's been 342 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:43.720 talking about like the writing a record, So I guess 343 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:49.720 like she's just mad in dragon Force. If dragon Force 344 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:53.600 one really bad now and that would be more in well, 345 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:55.919 I don't know. Maybe because I did listen to that, 346 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:58.519 I am intrigued. Yeah, I did listen to the song 347 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:03.639 that she was on previously, and it does inject a 348 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:06.480 bit more energy and a bit more bite, as it 349 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:09.559 would having someone who's got such a great harsh full call. 350 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:14.200 Maybe you know, dragon Force been really bad at writing 351 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.879 hooks and choruses, recently. So if they just sort of 352 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:18.840 flip the other way and go, well, we're just going 353 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:22.240 to be more extreme and more heavy, maybe that's I 354 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.360 don't know, that's kind of cool. 355 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:27.919 You know the That's what I would hope if they're 356 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.559 going to do an album, is they go down a 357 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.480 sort of a bit more of a harsher kind of 358 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.000 like route, because you'd make that makes it a listed 359 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.360 being in the band. But yeah, to me, Dragon Force 360 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:41.000 have kind of like fallen into like novelty. 361 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.399 Band that I just don't care about in recent years. 362 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:44.320 And this is the first bit of Dragon Force news 363 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.600 I've gone, Wow, that that's that's That's not the kind 364 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:48.840 of shit I expect from them. 365 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:50.840 Yeah, And I don't know if this and I say 366 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:52.440 this with no judgment because you know, it is what 367 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.600 it is. I don't know if having left Arch Enemy, 368 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:59.000 she needs like a regular touring gig right to you know, 369 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:01.279 pay the bill and all that. I don't know whether 370 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:03.519 it is just like this weird happenstance of like you 371 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:08.000 get this really random, amazing opportunity to join Dragon Force 372 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:09.839 for however long she decided to be in the band. 373 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:11.640 I definitely I would be curious about a record to 374 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:14.519 year they're not would you know, putting stock into that 375 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:16.160 suddenly being like, oh my god, it's gonna be the 376 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:17.839 best Dragon Force album in twenty years or some shit. 377 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.559 But just to be curious is what the results of 378 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:22.079 it are, because it does again out of all the 379 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:23.680 things where you go, oh list is out of arch enemy. 380 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:27.519 Very low on the bingo card of things to do 381 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:31.079 afterwards would be joining Dragon Force as not even a 382 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:32.960 primary you know, for a woman, but a co Vocalist's 383 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.200 very strange, but again head turning news nonethelesson I guess 384 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.519 we'll stay tuned. And also again on the flip side 385 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.640 of someone leaving a band solitude of turners who are 386 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:45.920 the very legendary cult but super influential. I regularly name 387 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.519 drop when we're reviewing basically trad doom records, so when 388 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.759 we talk about Spirit a Drift recently or like crypt Sermon, 389 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:53.119 these type bands as you turn as along with a 390 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:55.119 candle mass, so maybe a little bit more internationally famous. 391 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:57.240 I want to let the real like standard bearers of 392 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:00.720 that there frontman Rob Low, who was also was weirdly 393 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:02.160 the frontman in can Master for a little wile, but 394 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:05.680 he's been maybe removed I don't know, from the band, 395 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:07.799 and that is strange because he's like their guy, He's 396 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:10.240 like the main vocals they've had. So very curious and 397 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:13.000 unfortunately Solciter Turners don't really appear over here, so I 398 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:14.839 don't know if we'll ever get to see that, but yeah, 399 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:17.759 just curious. Strange news goes on in the in the 400 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:21.160 underground of you know, lineups coming and going. Let's talk 401 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:24.559 a little bit about Scowl who. I saw this headline 402 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.119 and I kind of had a moment of realization. I 403 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:27.720 was like, oh, yeah, you haven't been around, like for 404 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:31.119 whatever reason, I because there was so maybe it's because 405 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.119 the first half of last year obviously, Yeah, when they 406 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.039 put the record out, the next album, they were as 407 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:38.640 you'd expect on the band Who's You were released in 408 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:40.880 a really hotly tipped album. They were very much around 409 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:43.640 and they were everywhere. But I kind of didn't twig 410 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:47.039 that for the last sort of six months or so 411 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:49.880 they'd gone completely a woll and we hadn't you know, 412 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:53.680 his complete radio silence basically, But Scowl have come out 413 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:55.279 and Cap Moss, the front woman, has come out basically 414 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:56.960 saying that they are currently on a you know we 415 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:58.759 don't know how long it will be, but they are 416 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:02.359 certainly on for the moment a break and she's describing 417 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:05.240 that as kind of basically a result of emotional burnout, 418 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:08.799 which sometimes when bands get as big as quickly as 419 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:10.480 Scowl did. I think you can understand that. You know, 420 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:13.599 it's quite a lot to adjust to suddenly being propelled 421 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:15.160 to you know, having so many eyes on you and 422 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:17.200 all of that, and you know, some other stuff going 423 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.480 on in their personal lives as well. But yeah, again, 424 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:20.920 because there was a moment of realization for me, like, 425 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:24.039 oh yeah, Scowl like it did after the initial role 426 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:26.119 out of the album kind of did disappear for the 427 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:28.680 like the second half of last year obviously the beginning 428 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:29.079 of this one. 429 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:32.440 Yeah, it was when they started canceling like a lot 430 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:34.519 of European and UK too, Like they poured out of 431 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:35.319 Outbreak this year. 432 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:37.480 I was kind of like, yeah, thinking someone was up. 433 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:39.400 I think they pulled out of two thousand Trees as 434 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:42.480 well that but like they were they were like dropping 435 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:44.559 off dates and and I think it's a thing where 436 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:48.720 like they've been on tour kind of endlessly since everything 437 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:51.440 came back from COVID, Like, yeah, twenty twenty two. They've 438 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:53.759 been over here every year like every couple, like every 439 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:55.559 so many months, and that enclosed you know, concent trolling 440 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.079 in the US. So I think that that that combine 441 00:19:58.079 --> 00:19:59.680 them with, as I say, some of the other more 442 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:01.720 person things that Kat kind of goes into on this 443 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:05.400 podcast you did where like that is going to you know, 444 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:06.880 take its toll, And I think it's one of the 445 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:09.960 things that rather than kind of burn the band out completely, 446 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:12.599 it's it's a good idea to hit the brakes. I 447 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:14.200 think it's shame it's off the back of like say, 448 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:16.680 my favorite record from last year, one of my favorite 449 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:18.599 kind of like Amazon Musy is just an amazing sort 450 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:20.839 of punk rock record to sort of not be able 451 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:24.160 to really keep that momentum going. But for the hope, 452 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.200 for the for the good of the band, they can 453 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:29.799 kind of like like refocus, kind of refresh themselves and 454 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:30.799 come back better. 455 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:34.240 Yeah, yeah, very much with for all the reasons involved 456 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:37.119 that everyone like you know, takes the right reasons to 457 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:38.440 be like, okay, step back for a little bit. But 458 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:40.119 I do hope that you know, maybe in a I 459 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:41.480 don't want to put any time frame on it, but 460 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:43.839 you maybe done next year or something. We could be 461 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:47.839 seeing Scout resurface. But yeah, again, they have vanished from 462 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:50.440 the limelight for now, but we'll see when they return. 463 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:53.559 Torn News Live News of five Things that bunch have 464 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.400 added a big UK and a European arena run. The 465 00:20:57.400 --> 00:20:59.160 support bill is what maybe the T and M faith 466 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:01.000 will be the most interested here. Lamb of God and 467 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:05.640 belief within opening them which is a very hearty, meaty 468 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.880 sledgehammer opening to If I think a Death Pinch show, 469 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:13.960 isn't it? Oh that'd be so good, Like you'd be 470 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:15.079 having a great time the whole way. 471 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:19.559 Yeah, exactly. There's been so much horrible stuff going on 472 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:22.920 in the discord, lots of slander against five figure Death 473 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.200 Punch as if they're not as sick as hell live band, 474 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:28.559 you cannot like they're recorded. 475 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.440 I've never seen them live, so you know the squid. 476 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:35.160 I know the squid. Honestly, mate, you'd be a knucklehead 477 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:36.079 within seconds. 478 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:38.279 Really. 479 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:42.200 I went into the metallgashow skeptical and I came out 480 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.960 and being like, yeah, fuck it, cam me, knucklehead, you 481 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:47.319 know you can. 482 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:50.839 Suck my I just can't believe they're still doing you know, 483 00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:51.920 the Otero arena over here. 484 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.720 I genuinely thought, like their present over in the UK 485 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:55.920 did any uctually? 486 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:57.680 Can I know they've got you know, a big supporting 487 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:00.599 bills that's probably gonna help. But I was like, like, 488 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:02.759 does the UK still care about five things as much 489 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:05.039 and that much? Because you know, they don't get booked 490 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:08.079 for download anymore. They're not you know, the eternal second 491 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:09.960 or third from the top of the main stage download 492 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:11.839 band that they were in this sort of twenty ten 493 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:13.680 students or of the peak of their popularity. 494 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:16.599 But maybe there's still that that knucklehead. 495 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:20.359 Silent majority over here, that mark is proudly like banging 496 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:20.960 the drum. 497 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:22.839 For when is the last time they were over here? 498 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:25.759 That's sadly not information that I kept. 499 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:29.599 This is you You would have to tell us that, yeah, 500 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:32.559 I feel like download not around here. 501 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:36.839 Apparently the last time they played Download Festival was in 502 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:41.960 twenty seventeen, which is nearly ten years ago. That's mad. 503 00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:43.920 How when did they vanish from that bill without the 504 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:45.599 ever you know, tweaking on too, the fact that they 505 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:47.559 weren't there anymore, That's what I'm saying. 506 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:49.200 They used to always do that. 507 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:53.920 Dang, there's time to come back. This is the big comeback. 508 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:56.759 Maybe a play for the top of the stage. 509 00:22:57.559 --> 00:22:59.359 Maybe it's a renaissance. I don't know, but there you go. 510 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:01.680 Lamb good andre with enjoying that that's happened in January 511 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.880 of twenty twenty seven. Of course, later in this year, 512 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:08.319 Devin Townsend is also returning to the touring circuit. He said, 513 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:09.839 I think maybe a little bit of a year ago 514 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:13.400 that he was kind of taking a break from touring, 515 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:15.000 and I guess that maybe this is just like sometimes 516 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.680 you your year passes and you don't think about someone, 517 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:19.720 but in their life, taking a year off is a really, 518 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:21.519 really long time. I don't know, but Devin towns enough 519 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:23.519 to say that he was stepping out from touring, is 520 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:27.200 re emerging to tour in the UK and Europe later 521 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:29.920 this year September into October. This is for his The 522 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:32.480 Moth album that's coming out. I think at the end 523 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:35.200 of this month in the UK is it's kind of, 524 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:37.559 you know, the European dates like take up the middle 525 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:42.440 chunk of this tour. But in the UK he's playing Birmingham, Bath, Southampton, Exeter, London, 526 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.440 and then like a month later when he reappears in 527 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:48.640 the UK Brighton, Cardiff, Glasgow, Manchester and Leeds and really 528 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.279 strange tour annoucement. It says it's from it's doing stuff 529 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:55.960 from all of his projects, from Punky Brewster through all 530 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.680 the way through to modern day Devin Townsend. This sounds 531 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.880 actually mental when you look at the the bands are 532 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.000 listed right. Obviously we all know the different bands have 533 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.480 been in strapping Young lad Casualties of Cool get a 534 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.920 mentioned here like if this is a proper like cross 535 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.480 project career spanning Devin's set list, that sounds fucking mad. 536 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.240 Punky Brewster getting a mention in twenty twenty six, there's 537 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.039 not something I think anyone what we're gonna happen. 538 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:22.960 I wonder if you'll do any of his dark ambient 539 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:24.920 songs from the two dozen. 540 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:28.400 I hope so I take a half hour detour to 541 00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:30.200 turn into like a Boris set. That would be good. 542 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.039 But yeah, late late this year September October, Devin Towns 543 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.960 are returning to touring. Very you know, interesting announcement here. 544 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.000 Olivia Rodrigo, not someone that we usually tend to talk about. 545 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:43.759 She has added like fucking I think by the time 546 00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.279 this podcast goes out a thousand more will have been added. 547 00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:50.720 Dates at the London's O tem Arena and nowhere else, 548 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:54.319 and my like you know, social media timeline had been 549 00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:58.720 full of Olivia Rodriguez fans like absolutely fucking livid that 550 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.279 upon repeatedly selling out the O to Arena, she is 551 00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:05.119 just adding more and more dates rather than going anywhere 552 00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.480 else in the UK. Legitimately, I think at this stage 553 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:11.680 there are nine dates across about fifteen days in just 554 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:13.640 the O two arena, adding a new and every time 555 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.680 it sells out, and never adding anything in any other city. 556 00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:18.880 And to all those people who are that angry, I 557 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:23.160 completely concur with you. I think it's genuinely disgraceful, shameful 558 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:28.279 behavior to expect fans from all like you're the fucking multimillionaire, 559 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.799 like you go to them, Go book the co Op 560 00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:35.480 in Manchester, go play Glasgow, go somewhere else, and don't 561 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:39.200 expect fans from you know, everywhere, from like Wales to 562 00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.680 Scotland to you know, fucking the Southwest whatever to pay 563 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:44.960 hundreds of pounds that for you are just like a 564 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.839 drop in the fucking ocean to go and you know, 565 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.160 go to the big city and fucking buy trains of commodation. 566 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.640 It is genuinely this trend that's happening. I've seen it 567 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.160 happen with pop artists a lot of just adding these 568 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.839 like residencies in London and going nowhere else is so fun, lame, 569 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:04.960 absolute poser, bitch ass behavior. But the reason we're talking 570 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.400 about this at all is that the main support act 571 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.880 for Olivia Drigo has announced is Dishpits, the kind of 572 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:13.799 alternative rock band who we review their album last year, 573 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:15.559 and since we reviewed that record at the end of 574 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.799 last year, sometime they have like popped up a lot. 575 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.519 They played I think they played Corchella, didn't they, which 576 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:25.000 isn't necessarily too you know, unusual for a popular rock band, 577 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:25.680 but they were there. 578 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.400 A trendy rock band to do that. Yeah, that may it. 579 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.079 Yeah, they're also supporting the Foo Fighters on their dates 580 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.319 over here and now being added as the support act 581 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:34.759 for like one of the as I say, the main 582 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:39.759 pop girls, right, Dishbits are a pretty heavy band for 583 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.400 that kind of thing. Like when we reviewed it, we 584 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:44.519 were like, these are songs outsword that have mastered on 585 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.359 rifts in them. Why have they been given like the 586 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.759 keys to the Kingdom. This happens where you get these 587 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.519 like corporately. I don't want to say a point, you know, creative, 588 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.160 they are, but anointed where it's like you are one 589 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:57.920 who are allowed to play everything like you for some 590 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.000 reason in a world that people don't really care about, 591 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.359 certainly sludge metal. Right, we're gonna like the bands get 592 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.799 given the keys to appear on everything. But it's happening 593 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.599 this time with a band who I said are genuinely 594 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.279 capable of being quite gutta really heavy, and it's really 595 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.960 weird that it's now going this far wherey're supporting Olivia Rodrigo. 596 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:19.680 It's not even like it like metal. It's like swords 597 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.079 and sludge riffs like metal. 598 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:23.160 Yeah. 599 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.440 The thing is obviously the bigger pill of them is 600 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:26.759 that is that with the kind of like the pop 601 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:28.359 and the alt rock kind of like vocals and all 602 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:30.319 that stuff. And that's the thing that again really made 603 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.079 us quite fond of the album, was this cool blend 604 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:35.079 of ideas. But like again I could I could understand 605 00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:36.920 them spoiling food fires. I'm pretty sure you know, Like 606 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.119 obviously like gouge Way did that Mannekin pussy. 607 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:40.119 I think I've done that before. 608 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.759 Like that, there's a TSI fans to get that sort 609 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.119 of thing, but this is like a step further of 610 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.640 like I say, going out with one of the big 611 00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.000 pop girlies, Like who knows, you might see just spits 612 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:50.880 on the next Taylor Swift. 613 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:52.400 I would love that, Like. 614 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.119 This is mad. Like I saw the food Floaters thing 615 00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.200 and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 616 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.200 And then when you can see it Olivia Rodrigo one 617 00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.799 was announced, I was like, hold on if I confused 618 00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:09.839 this band with another one? Like I was like, did 619 00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:13.119 I get them confused with Venona Fighter? Like but though 620 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.960 it is the same, you know, slodgie riffs, heavy band, 621 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.839 Like I don't know if they're gonna go over well 622 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:24.359 with Olivia Rodrigal fans, but that doesn't even matter to me, 623 00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.440 just the fact that they're there and being put in 624 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.799 front of them. It's really Yeah, it's really cool. 625 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.079 And like Olivia Rodrigo of all the you know, big 626 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:36.200 like proper major league pop stars, she does have like 627 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.799 a very there's a nineties rock sort of slant in 628 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:42.640 nostalgia to like Naughty's rock you know when Good for 629 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:44.200 You as massive and it was just a parabole song, 630 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.480 you know what I mean, Like there is so if 631 00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.559 anyone is gonna do it of those, you know, it 632 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.519 makes more sense doing it Olivia Drigo than it would 633 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.799 Taylor Swift for example, or fucking Lady Garca or whatever. Right, 634 00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.160 I'm not like, if it's gonna have to happen for someone, 635 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.799 I'm not stunned, see Olivia Drigo. Of all people pick 636 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.720 a band like Dispits, But like I said, it's just 637 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:07.799 who are the fan base for this band? This is 638 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.480 really curious me because like we review the album, we're like, 639 00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.799 this is good, like for again, a band who are 640 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.400 getting these kind of you know, uh, this kind of 641 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.799 hype and this buzz around them in like more than 642 00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.839 just our scene, Like this one does seem pretty credible 643 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:23.680 musically and pretty legit. But I am fascinated so like 644 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.960 the people who they've been put in front of what 645 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.279 other things that Dispits fans are into, you know, because 646 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.799 they don't seem to outside of the Foo fighters, right, 647 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:36.079 they don't seem to be playing that many major rock tours. 648 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.119 They are peering at all these like fucking enormous major 649 00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:44.559 label type you know showcases, which is just yeah, doing 650 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:45.759 it with their riffs is bizarre. 651 00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.920 I mean, they're selling out their own shows, like like 652 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.039 they will do in the Underward and that got upgraded 653 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:53.599 and so they are like do they have people are 654 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:55.559 like going to see them at their own things. So 655 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.279 perhaps they are winning people over at these as you say, 656 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.759 the anointed, big yeah, big shows. 657 00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:02.799 That them on. 658 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.039 Maybe it'll work out well for them if they're playing 659 00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:08.519 in front of pissed off people who've traveled four hundred 660 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:13.079 miles to go to London. Absolutely human and then you 661 00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:14.960 hear those riffs, that'd be perfect. 662 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.759 Yeah, absolutely. If we can create some kind of pipeline 663 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.160 to get the you know, despitz fans at the live 664 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.480 Rodrigue shows into I don't know, the acid bath shows 665 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.480 that are happening, Like somewhere there is a line that 666 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:31.160 makes some weird musical hets there get them really into 667 00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:32.799 high on fire. Well, let's see where it goes. I'm 668 00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:34.599 very curious of again, how where there's oldershpits you know, 669 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:37.880 Saga carries them. But they are currently going to be 670 00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.880 spotting a Lidia Rodrigo at the twelve thousand dates exclusively 671 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:46.400 happening inside the capital of this country. Right. Steve Evatts, 672 00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:50.200 the producer producer Extrawsannair has done everything from Dead Guy 673 00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:51.799 to the Wonder Years. He's one of the most like 674 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.839 regularly you see his name pop up all the time 675 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.799 just on sick bands records really unfortunately use that his 676 00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:02.160 studio Belleville, His studio is unfortunately burned down in a 677 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.599 really large fire in New Jersey. I know there's a 678 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:06.000 go fund me up there and stuff like that, but 679 00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:09.720 you know, again, someone who has worked on many, many records, 680 00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.079 I guarantee you have enjoyed so you know, well wishes 681 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:14.319 to him in terms of getting back up on his 682 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.000 feet and see more records from his studio when it 683 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:20.640 is you know, back in action hopefully coming through. But 684 00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.119 if there is some bad news, there's also some potentially 685 00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:25.240 good news. People think Greta van Fleet is going to 686 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.640 be splitting up because Greta van Fleet have put out 687 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.319 a like teaser post that just says thanks for the 688 00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:35.519 wild ride with all of their names listening underneath them, 689 00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:37.519 and people are like, oh, apparently they've been doing like 690 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:39.200 side projects stuff the last couple years. It does feel 691 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.000 like it's been kind of quiet on the you know 692 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.920 them being you know, pushed in front of everyone's fate front. 693 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.640 But people have a theory think possibly the Greavan Fleet 694 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.519 might be calling it a day, and like I, I 695 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.039 even like the odd Gretavanthleet song like Highway Tune is 696 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.759 a tune. I'm not a monster, but I think probably 697 00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:59.319 for the wider good of the world, it's probably for 698 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:00.519 the best that they disappear. 699 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:04.680 This is how I found out they hadn't already broken 700 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:05.880 up again. 701 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.759 I'd not thought about gret Van Fleet for so long, 702 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.039 it's been a minute. They were not they Like we 703 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.680 reviewed that last out, that horrible last album again earlier 704 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:17.880 in my time on the podcast, and I have not 705 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:20.160 thought about them since then. I thought they were because 706 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.720 no one talks about it anymore, that kind of led 707 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.279 Zeppelin worships or thing. It's so not the flavor anymore. 708 00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:28.119 I thought they were done. And this is how I 709 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.079 find out. No, they they were actually still going this 710 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:33.039 whole time, and they might be finally splitting up like 711 00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:34.119 we can hard. 712 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.400 I don't know, knowing our lock, they'll be aping the 713 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.480 seventies band so hard that they'll do an Aerosmith esque 714 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.680 ten year of farewell to They'll just keep. 715 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:48.599 Extending yeah, repeatedly, do kisses and just like emerge again 716 00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:50.000 and again and again. 717 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:55.000 But this is our last show to dolphins. 718 00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:00.720 They're all enjoying it. They're clapping their flippers like squeaking 719 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.480 at the response. And then we're going to move on 720 00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:05.799 to the Chipmunk, so we will not stop until we 721 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.759 have done our Anyway, there you go, let's move on 722 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:15.160 Patreon over on. That's this week upcoming. We are going 723 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.519 to be continuing. I mentioned our corn special earlier. Part 724 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:18.839 one has been up there for a couple weeks, but 725 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:20.440 we are going to be The next thing on our 726 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.440 horizon is we will be doing part two, moving into 727 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.319 the real peak new metal years of them being like 728 00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:30.480 fucking superstars and everything with that middle run of late 729 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:35.240 nineties into the early noughties records. But in between these parts, 730 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.920 we have just done our latest album, club Pack, which 731 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:42.759 saw a little of contentious discussion between you, you and 732 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:46.359 I Sam based on some of the greatest music ever. 733 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.920 But we also spoke about the likes of Brimie, the Rises, 734 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.480 count Your Blessings, reassessing that after twenty years and the 735 00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.680 again the ups and downs of just its reputation over 736 00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.759 the years. Very fascinating to talk that about. I Am 737 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.319 really plays about how when we did the art party, 738 00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:02.599 and what I was secretly hoping with this, and it 739 00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:04.400 does seem to be the case, is that going back 740 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.720 to municipal waste the art partying, people would just start 741 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.679 thinking about all those neo retro thrash bands in general 742 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:11.880 and digging up bands being I haven't listened to that, 743 00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:14.440 you know, that Havoc record or that Gamma Bomb record 744 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.320 since twenty eleven or whatever, And at least in terms 745 00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:18.960 of our discord, that does seem to be the discussion 746 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.039 right now. It's just people reliving all of those memories 747 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.880 and that era, which was again maybe a formative era 748 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.760 for some good times, had their really fun discussing that record, 749 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.639 and we also spoke about the debut rolative Massy Records 750 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.559 became more going about down memory lane with Nintendo since 751 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.239 and the like. Again, ups and downs in the in 752 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:39.320 the podcast itself, but I think it was a rewarding 753 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.800 and enjoyable, entertaining journey for us all to go down 754 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:43.519 in the end, Wasn't it? 755 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.199 Only one of us got personal, It's all I'm going 756 00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:48.400 to say, one of us trying to keep there. Chris 757 00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:54.599 was entirely professional and just and just be honest, And. 758 00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:54.559 I'm just trying to hold up a mirror. I'm just 759 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.360 trying to hold up a mirror. Yeah, no, I was. 760 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.800 It was like, I am happy for you and Elliott. 761 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.920 That was a rewarding discussion on that front, hearing you 762 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:09.199 two get to be so enthusiastic about that music and like, 763 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:12.440 to be fair, the Municipal Race one was such a 764 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.199 fun just kind of like, ah, this album is such 765 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.199 a like twenty first century classic to me, I can 766 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:20.840 get in trouble for the list of fresh albums. 767 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.159 I think that album is better. 768 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.239 Than Yeah, I'd probably agree with you. 769 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:29.000 A lot of fun, fun discussions, you know, dissecting pray 770 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.000 for plagues and like count your Blessings and all that 771 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.000 shit and the magic of like pray for plagues on 772 00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.920 that album alongside some of the other mental shit. 773 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.280 That happens with that album. Just good times. 774 00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:43.400 Yeah, I really enjoyed listening to this pack. I though 775 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.519 it was really great all four records. I have some 776 00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:49.440 sort of foddenness for it and my fun for cop 777 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:55.400 Your Blessings, I guess I am. But yeah, I usually 778 00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:58.880 I love going along with you, Sam when you rally 779 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:03.480 against something that's paranor Eliot love. But I listened to 780 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.360 Wild Autumn Winds the other day and I genuinely tear 781 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:06.639 it up. 782 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.039 That's that's the one. 783 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:11.559 Like I did say, that's the one, you know, pretty 784 00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.360 good song on the record, probably IDENTI if I said 785 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.360 those words exactly, but it's one of our most most 786 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:16.440 positive about that. 787 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.679 You have it fine, Yeah, it's absolutely magic. Go and 788 00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.840 check out that record and our chats on them. Patron 789 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:25.440 of the comm Slash that's the way to be. Like 790 00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:28.880 I said, Corn Special Part two coming soon, let's end them. 791 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.519 Primary first leg of this hyperblasts with the release roundup 792 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.239 for this week eighth of May. And there are a 793 00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.320 few records here. I think people would have been looking 794 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.920 forward to whether you are in you know, one sub 795 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.920 scene of the T and M universe or another sub scene. 796 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.079 Maybe one of them is Black Belt Brid's album Vindicate, 797 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.000 which we did discuss a single on the show a 798 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:50.800 few weeks ago. We will you know what, Blackvelt Bride's 799 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.199 holding it down pretty well in the scheme of you know, 800 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.840 metalcore bands of their generation still doing all right. So 801 00:36:57.880 --> 00:36:59.199 I hope that's the case for the rest of the album. 802 00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.440 Vindicate by blackfl Brides out now. Then, Speaking of the 803 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:07.760 you know the big very you know, well loved alternative 804 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:11.400 rock bands of their generation. Basement are Final laid back 805 00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:13.719 with their album that's been like eight years and the 806 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.920 making or something. Their new record Wired is out. Then 807 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.400 there is Koyo, who are about who have you emerged 808 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.760 in the years since then? But kind of on like 809 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.719 the I know a lot of hardcore fans like them, 810 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:25.960 but they're kind of on the pop punk end of 811 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:26.960 the spectrum. Is that right, Sam? 812 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.679 Yeah, they are kind of one of the pop punk 813 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.400 emos or bands that I've sort of been grace at 814 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.119 themselves into hardcore. I might have more to say about 815 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.159 them in a not too distant future. 816 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.440 Okay, well, there you go. Their album Barely Here is 817 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.360 out today, and then moving backwards in time through the 818 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.280 punk world Social Distortion a back they got a record 819 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.719 called Born to Kill. And there is also the flat 820 00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:50.840 Liners with Cold any flat Liners fans here, I know 821 00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.599 that they're one those bands that again people have like 822 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.480 their very cult specific relationship with I like. 823 00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.039 The flat Liners. They when I was like massively getting 824 00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.760 into the Mensingers and then basically every kind of like 825 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:03.880 punk band like that. Flat Liners were one of the 826 00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:05.599 bands I sort of got into around that time. They 827 00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.840 were never like the biggest, but they were like a nice, real, 828 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:08.840 like dedicated cold. 829 00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:11.000 Following Yeah, there you go the flat Liners with the 830 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.320 record Cold World. Then there is Haggard Cat of course, 831 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.480 the band featuring former members of Heck still going strong 832 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:21.480 today their record The Pain that Orbit's Life Is Out. 833 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.480 Jeff Tait, the former Queen's Right, the singer who has 834 00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.719 been up and up to all sorts over the years 835 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:29.960 since he left Queen's Right. Really he's got a record 836 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.159 app which made me laugh when I saw the title, 837 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:38.639 because it's Operation Mind Crime three making sequeled still to 838 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:41.679 Queen's Rights to finding record, one of the great concept 839 00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.320 albums of the eighties, Operation Mine Crime. There's a third 840 00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:51.000 one on from the classic form from mister Jeff Taits. 841 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:55.519 Let's move into extreme metal, Frozen Soul, the cold school 842 00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.599 death metalers. There I believe third Studio alb at this point, 843 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.880 isn't it their record No Play of Warmth Is Out? 844 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:03.840 Will probably have that in the next reviews bad because 845 00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:05.760 I know that they are again one of the more 846 00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.480 popular bands of the current death metal wave in the UK. 847 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:12.679 There is Ingested the long going Brutal death Metal as 848 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.880 their record Denigration is out. I know that the things 849 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.159 have been kind of thrown up in the air and 850 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:19.400 around for them recently, with them like swapping singers and 851 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:20.880 stuff like that. I don't know what that means for 852 00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.159 this specific record and you know who is on it 853 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.280 or whatever. But the latest record from Ingested is out today, Denigration. 854 00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.480 Speaking of going back in time, Dark Throne are back 855 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.400 once again with their you know, bi annual record, and 856 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:37.159 this one is called Prehistoric Metal and the album cover 857 00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:41.199 is a wonderful photo of Fenris throwing the claw and 858 00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:45.639 holding a pitchfork, just like really taken in. I don't 859 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:50.159 know his his farm shed or something, but I imagine this 860 00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:51.760 will probably be based on what I've heard, you know, 861 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.760 continuing along the kind of very like rusty vibe of 862 00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:58.000 like their last like three or four records or something. 863 00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.840 But I will always check out Darth Throwne records. So 864 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.239 Prehistoric Metal is out going into bounds. Who still remained 865 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.760 to this day being black metal bands Pernopticon the great 866 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:11.400 classic at this stage, I would say us black metal 867 00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:16.000 band Appalachian folk tinged American black metal. Their record with 868 00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.400 a title that's in Norwegian for some reason, it's debt 869 00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:21.599 heumsucked hill TETs is my attempt at that, but the 870 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.800 letric of a Panopticon. I know that they've released quite 871 00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.840 a bit of music recently in terms of like digging 872 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.599 up old recordings and stuff like that, but I believe 873 00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:30.679 that this is like the first, like you know, current 874 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.880 studio Peranopticon album since the one that came up like 875 00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:36.320 two three years ago. And if it is, you know 876 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.280 that record in question, I'm thinking of that record is 877 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.639 fucking fantastic and generally one of their best ever. So 878 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:42.920 if this is again a proper new not studio record, 879 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:44.920 but I believe it is, then I will definitely checking 880 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.119 out with interest. There is yof Area, the band featuring 881 00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.320 you know, some long time legends of the Greek black 882 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:54.519 metal scene but have kind of evolved into like a 883 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.360 just a very epic, stirring heavy metal band, basically along 884 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:01.119 the lines of if you like extreme but kind of 885 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.480 epic heavy metal, along the lines of I'm thinking you're 886 00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:05.519 like a mono moth, right, that kind of vibe of 887 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.400 like it's heavy and it's modern, but it's also just 888 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.039 very classic and fist pumpy. Your theorya in the same 889 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:12.440 way that Rotten christ can be a lot of the time. Ah, 890 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.519 the sort of band who you know they're supplying that thing. 891 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.360 So they've got a record called Gone with the Devil, 892 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:18.840 more into the underground of black metal. Perhaps the record 893 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.639 that I am most looking forward to this week is 894 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:25.079 the return of the UK black metal as a Forest 895 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.159 of Stars, with their first album in like coming up 896 00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:29.840 to maybe about ten years, about eight years or something 897 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.079 like that, a band I have a real place in 898 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.159 my heart for. They've got a record called stack Overflowing 899 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:40.280 corpse Pile Interference, which or sorry interface, because that definitely 900 00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.039 makes as much sense as the thing that I said. 901 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:43.760 But I'm looking for to find out what the fuck 902 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:45.960 any of that refers to, because I love of Forest 903 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.519 of Stars really eccentric, progressive, wild UK black metal into 904 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.400 kind of death doom, gothic death doom, you know, very 905 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:55.440 like I am drinking my red wine and being sad 906 00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.360 about it vibes the band Draconian. I've got a record 907 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:02.159 called insomnolent Ruin, and then at end on some EPs 908 00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:06.800 in the hardcore world, we have Forced Order with Undying Spirit, 909 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.400 which I believe is that on Triple B Records. 910 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:13.800 Sam Forced Order, Yeah, crossover sort of frashy hardcore. 911 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:15.360 This EP is really fun. 912 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.079 It's got solos on it, which is always nice when 913 00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.639 the hardcore band aren't scared to solo. Agree, but if 914 00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:21.239 you if you want, if you want your hardcore to 915 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.800 be a bit like pacer and frashier, give the CPS spin. 916 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.239 It's really cool, very nice. And there's also crow Quill, 917 00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:29.599 who I remember they wasn't maybe last year put out 918 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:33.480 one of the more hypie again EP short form releases 919 00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:36.039 to come out of the whole, like you know, Circle 920 00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.159 the Millennium metalcore revival stuff basically, So they're following up 921 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:41.679 that with another EP called Erase the File. 922 00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:45.719 Yeah, you know, coming strike that kind of vein of yeah, 923 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.880 like throwback metal corp. The I lap up and you know, 924 00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.679 we get a new EP from these sort of bands 925 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.320 every couple of weeks. I will probably really enjoy this. 926 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:53.880 If this is as good as the last crow Call 927 00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:55.840 EP was that like that is one of the better 928 00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:57.159 ones of this sort of style of thing. 929 00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:58.679 Yeah, I know that they are one of the bands 930 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:01.119 again who do have more of the what seemed to 931 00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.000 be like you know, extensive praise around them, So I 932 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.239 would be curious seeing where the whole Croquil thing goes 933 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.280 with their new EP is that today, and then moving 934 00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.840 on to the extreme side. For the EPs, We've got Scarab, 935 00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:17.159 the Egyptian death metal band obviously very well named Transmutation 936 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:20.320 of Fate. And there is also the returning grindcore band 937 00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:24.079 Gadget with their record called co Earth. So there you go. 938 00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.880 That's the releases for today. Sam, you are about to 939 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.360 embark on a trip across Asia for a little while. Yeah, 940 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.440 this is going to be your last appearance on the 941 00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.239 show for about a month and a half, six weeks 942 00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:35.719 something like that. 943 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:37.119 Yeah, five weeks. 944 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.039 I'm off traveling through Asia, hin Up, Thailand, Vietnam to 945 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:41.480 do like historical cultural stuff. 946 00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:43.000 Then I'm landing in Japan to. 947 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:44.320 Just do a load of nerdy shit and watch a 948 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.480 bunch of hardcore like primarily the Japan because built around 949 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.960 going to blood Axe Festival, which is sort of Japan's 950 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.880 kind of like primary hardcore metalcore festival. It's headline this 951 00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.480 year by Speed and Poison The Well, we've been a 952 00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:58.599 lot of time Koyo. As I just mentioned, they are 953 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.159 playing that alongside a bunch of like Japanese bands Numb, 954 00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.079 Loyal to the Grave, view from the Sawyers, who I've 955 00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:06.239 been you know, raving about. 956 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:07.320 Very excited to see them. 957 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.119 So I'll be hitting up that and you know some 958 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:11.960 of the side shows around that. So when I'm back, 959 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.440 I'll probably have a bit of a report on what's 960 00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.639 going on in like Japanese hardcore on the like. 961 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:18.360 But yeah, I will be like absent. 962 00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:20.519 I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of your corn 963 00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.760 special that you record in my absence and keeping up 964 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.280 with I hope to hear the Jeff Ta album gets 965 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.719 reviewed when I'm you and Elliott dissecting Operation Mine Crime Free. 966 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.559 I think would be a wonderful listen as I'm sort 967 00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:35.880 of like, don't promise the people that, don't promise the 968 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:40.840 people you know to put it out there, it could 969 00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.679 be worthwhile. Yes, I'll miss you know coming on here 970 00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.880 to chat about stuff. I will I will have some 971 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:48.760 like stuff to talk about when I'm back, and it's 972 00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:50.039 going to be a fun little trip. 973 00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.159 Yeah, the rest of us will be holding the thought 974 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.519 while you're gone, but yeah, we will see you when 975 00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:55.800 you're back here and I get a bit over a 976 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.679 month go and enjoy Japan and Asia. Mark and I 977 00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.159 are going to continue on for a little bit. We're 978 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.800 going to talk about Incineration Festival, which mark you, we're 979 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:04.800 not even at, but you did go and see one 980 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.280 of these Cineitar shows on their UK tour, so we 981 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.119 can chat about that a little bit. And otherwise I 982 00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.199 am going to reel off my experiences at, as I say, 983 00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:14.679 one of the big extreme metal events that pops up 984 00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:18.119 every year in the UK, you know, live music calendar. 985 00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:20.440 I don't go to a seration every single year, but 986 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:22.599 I do like to try and make it out when 987 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.800 there is something particularly spicy on the lineup that really 988 00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:28.760 makes me go, I can't miss that. And as we 989 00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:30.599 will get onto, there were certain things that were an 990 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.760 ounced for this that very much pulled that trigger for me. 991 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.239 I didn't expect to go about so soon after I 992 00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.239 was their last year obviously. Last year was sensational with 993 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:40.000 the trip to con Celtic Frost Set where they played 994 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.760 a Dying God Company to Human Flesh for the first 995 00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:45.599 time ever, and Blood Incantation premiering absolutely elsewhere the album's 996 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:48.320 set in the UK, all that good stuff. But this year, 997 00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:49.920 like I said, even though there was nothing that maybe 998 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.920 you know, grabs the headlines as much as those things 999 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.239 there were again things on the lineup where I go, okay, 1000 00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.360 I guess I'm coming back straight away. It takes place 1001 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.360 as you know, if you know, if you have been 1002 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.880 to the Festival four it's one of those cross Camden 1003 00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:06.800 type events, often in the Electric Ballroom, the Underworld, the 1004 00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.199 black Heart, really small venue around the corner Call to 1005 00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:10.920 the dev as well the really tiny like pub stuff, 1006 00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.519 but also on some years where they go particularly big. 1007 00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:15.679 This is two years in a row and they have 1008 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.280 done it. They also book the Roundhouse and fill that 1009 00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.760 with big stuff. That does add the kind of slightly 1010 00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:23.199 annoying on it into the next veris of the Roundhouse 1011 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.719 is about a ten minute walk away from all those 1012 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:29.840 other venues in question, So there is Trekking and I 1013 00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:31.719 don't know, this year, for whatever it isn't I felt 1014 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.760 it less like even though this year I did do 1015 00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.159 with the back and forth track more than any last year. 1016 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:38.519 Like last year, I mainly went to the Electric Boor 1017 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:40.599 and watch stuff there, walked to the Roundhouse watch stuff there. 1018 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.119 This year I did go back and forth like several times. 1019 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.280 But for whatever maybe my legs are just stronger, I 1020 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:46.960 don't know, Like, for whatever reason, it didn't feel as 1021 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.920 bad this year, so giving people tips and describing how 1022 00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.480 the festival works is quite hard because I myself feel 1023 00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.400 nebulously about it. Where my experience seems to change from 1024 00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:58.400 year to year. I don't know, but you know, it 1025 00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.280 is what it is. It can still be an annoying 1026 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.639 festival to like, you know, watch bands timing wise, when 1027 00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.079 something ends in one corner of Camden basically, and then 1028 00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:08.960 you're a trek to the other corner when the band 1029 00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:10.559 is immediately starting. But like I said, this year, I 1030 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.800 didn't actually have many problems and I saw lots of 1031 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:17.599 good stuff For me. It also turned into kind of 1032 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.559 an extended weekend deal because it basically became a three 1033 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:25.719 day run of shows all centering around the Incineration weekend. 1034 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:27.880 So I guess I'll go through them chronologically and New 1035 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.800 Marcus can chime in when when it's appropriate. The thing 1036 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.480 that kicked off that for me is around Incineration dragged 1037 00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.679 into Sunlight who had been booked for it. They added 1038 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:39.559 like basically a bit of a UK tour around it, 1039 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.840 with like three or four extra shows, and they also 1040 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:44.280 brought along with them other bands who were on the 1041 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:49.519 Incineration bill. Vacuous and Plague Pit as the support for it, 1042 00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:53.920 and I knew. I looked at Incineration the poster. This 1043 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:55.400 is before the times had gone out, but I was like, 1044 00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.039 I knew, I've been said before. I know it can 1045 00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.440 be difficult, clashes are going to be annoying. So I 1046 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.159 was like, I am going to go because I can 1047 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.679 and see all of these bands a couple of nights 1048 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:06.960 before basically, and therefore I've ticked them off before I've 1049 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.280 even gotten to Incineration, and I can allocate myself more 1050 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.679 appropriately with that in mind. So I got to see 1051 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:14.480 Dragon sun Light along with those other bands Vacuous and 1052 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.840 Plaue Pits before Insinration even arrived. I did not see 1053 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.280 them at Incineration itself. For this reason. I got to 1054 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.199 go do other things. But I heard from you know, 1055 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:23.880 the people who did go see drag de sun Like 1056 00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:27.039 at the main incineration that basically they were as devastating 1057 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.239 as ever, because that's what they are. Like, I don't 1058 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:31.880 think there is such a thing as any Dragon to 1059 00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:34.039 Sunlight shower, that there is any you know, less intense 1060 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.719 than the average level that they exist. That but there 1061 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.239 you go. Plague bit, I guess as the opening band 1062 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.199 of the whole experience. I wasn't really familiar with them, 1063 00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:45.400 but from what I gathered from watching them is it's 1064 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:49.039 kind of sort of sludgy, maybe slightly bolt throwery hardcore 1065 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.199 death metal, basically that kind of realm of stuff, you know, 1066 00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.320 decent enough stuff, but Vacuous as the main support on 1067 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:56.519 this drag thing. They were also headlining the Black Heart 1068 00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:59.199 in the Incineration main day, which meant they were on 1069 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.880 during Blue via Death headline in the Roundhouse. That's a 1070 00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.880 rough slot to get, but I heard from them that 1071 00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:08.280 that was a packed enough slot for them anyway in 1072 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:09.880 the Black Cart and so they had the good headlining 1073 00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.639 slot in there. Was really looking forward to seeing Vacuous 1074 00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:16.079 and made sure to again do so here because their 1075 00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:19.239 record from the last year, in His Blood, is I 1076 00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:20.880 think one of the better death metal records to have 1077 00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:22.719 come out in the last like eighteen months or so, 1078 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:25.719 and was looking forward to getting to Hoster seeing that material. 1079 00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:27.559 And they are fucking wicked, Like I think that they 1080 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.159 are probably the best deaf not band in the UK 1081 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.360 right now, Like really a mixture of really powerful live 1082 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.880 presence from you know, the vocalist has this really strong 1083 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:41.440 live presence, but also the drummer Max, who is the 1084 00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.039 also the drummer who plays in hell Ripper is I 1085 00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:48.079 think one of like the hardest hitting extreme metal drummers 1086 00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:50.599 certainly in this country. Right now. We're just watching him 1087 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.440 smack the fuck out of that on these Like you know, 1088 00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:56.320 it's good enough the hell Ripper doing like really far 1089 00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:57.840 thrash stuff, but when you go into the death metal 1090 00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.719 realm and you have like these wild intens blast passages 1091 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.840 and stuff. But also on that last Vacuous record, So 1092 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:04.519 the stuff that I really liked and that really turned 1093 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:06.800 my head with it is they've kind of started introducing 1094 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:09.760 more ideas than just you're playing every death of stuff, right, 1095 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:11.840 and they started adding in like post punk and these 1096 00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:14.159 like big heavy pounding rhythms and kind of some like 1097 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.639 more spooky ambient elements and stuff like that. And that's 1098 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:18.760 why I think makes that set of set of songs really, 1099 00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:21.599 like again stand out, really cool hearing that stuff in 1100 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:24.079 the live setting. Really good stuff from Vacuous. I hope 1101 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:26.119 to see them several more times before this cycle is out, 1102 00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:28.519 but definitely a band that I would recommend catching if 1103 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:29.960 if you can around them, And like I said, if 1104 00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:32.440 you missed their record last year and you're into underground 1105 00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.559 death metal that just has a little bit more going 1106 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:38.519 for it than your average band, Definitely recommend it. Dragging 1107 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:41.960 to Sunlight, as I say, it kind of feels like 1108 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.639 the victory lap basically, for like when they came back 1109 00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:46.519 after having not played a show in five or the 1110 00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:49.480 years whatever it was for Damnation again about eighteen months ago, 1111 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:53.239 and that Damnation set just like it kind of escaped 1112 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.840 containment of just the Damnation people who were there, Like 1113 00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:57.639 I think it made the rounds people like this set 1114 00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:01.079 was fucking bonkers, and the way that they have like 1115 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.760 built up this sort of demand and legend around them 1116 00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:06.760 in their absence, and then it all just came flooding 1117 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:10.559 back of that Damnation set, this Incineration run. Like I said, 1118 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:12.679 it's basically like the victory lap for it, and maybe 1119 00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.000 people who heard about that Damnation set that weren't there 1120 00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:17.920 for it will have, you know, bought a ticket to 1121 00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:19.519 Incineration or one of these other dates to be like 1122 00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.559 I want to get a piece of that. And I 1123 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:21.880 was saying to people, I was like, if you've not 1124 00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.480 seen Dragon to Sunlight before, then they are the band 1125 00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:26.840 you have to see at the risk of missing absolutely 1126 00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.039 everything else, Like you just have to go to experiences 1127 00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.559 for yourself. I've been you know, privileged enough to see them, 1128 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.400 I think like six times or something like that, but 1129 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.239 every single time without fail, just the I've said it, 1130 00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:40.239 when we spoke about Damnation, it was essentially the same set, 1131 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:42.840 like they're still doing Hatred for Mankind, which is interesting 1132 00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:46.760 because when that Damnation thing happened there with that awful clash, 1133 00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:49.559 and I've now had the opportunity to see this set 1134 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:53.039 basically like several times after that thing, But I still 1135 00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:54.559 don't regret that clash and what I did with it, 1136 00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:57.400 because it feels like that Damnation set was the the one, 1137 00:51:57.599 --> 00:51:59.880 right that's the one that kind of goes down in history, 1138 00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:02.760 and people still talk about that, but you know, still 1139 00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:05.599 by some playing all the Heterrochmankind, which is just fucking venomous, 1140 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:09.480 and it never gets old seeing a stage like kind 1141 00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:12.800 of you know, decked out in these fucking deer antler 1142 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:16.440 skulls and the massive candle larbra and then being absolutely 1143 00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.119 brutalized by that like strobe lighting and just the fact 1144 00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:21.760 that they are the most heavy, intense life band you 1145 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:25.079 could possibly expect to see like unlocking some extra level 1146 00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:29.400 of frying you alive when they play that has no 1147 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.960 bad they've ever seen have quite achieved that level. Yeah, 1148 00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.639 essentially this was a round two after the Damnation experience 1149 00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:40.559 and maybe slightly less sweaty and slightly less like close 1150 00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.599 quarters terrifying, but just a reminder of everything that is 1151 00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:46.320 brilliant about Drandon. Something like they've said that they're going 1152 00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.639 to do like they did a social media post and 1153 00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:50.320 they were like, we're going to do one more run 1154 00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.360 of shows. And I don't know if that means that 1155 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:53.840 they are going to that they just want to do 1156 00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:55.719 another Runner shows and then maybe they'll go into hibernation 1157 00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:58.920 for a while. Maybe they are you know, disappearing permanently. 1158 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:02.320 I don't know, but it certainly feels like again the 1159 00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:05.280 legend has reawoken after Damnation, and right now we're in 1160 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:08.000 this period of like as many people as possible should 1161 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:11.440 be trying to see this while it you know, it exists. 1162 00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:16.000 So again great like kicking off to the Incineration weekender 1163 00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:20.159 totally day after that, I went down to London and 1164 00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:22.440 in the Black Heart there was what was labeled as 1165 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:26.119 the Incineration pre party, put on by the record store 1166 00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:28.920 slash label Crypt of the Wizard, who put out the 1167 00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:30.800 record of the band question about to talk about a 1168 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.000 couple of support acts at the London show for this 1169 00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.239 there was a just a full on noiseet like just 1170 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.000 a guy you know, squawking into a micing causing a 1171 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.360 big old racket with his noise rig under the name 1172 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.880 Lover's Leap. And also a band called Fields of Agony, 1173 00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:48.000 which I believe members features members of Final Dose, but 1174 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:53.000 it's much more like straightforward like atmospheric black metal. Sort's fair. 1175 00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:56.719 But then the main app who you also mark as 1176 00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:59.599 they added a full on UK tour you also went 1177 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.559 out to see up in your area. We went to 1178 00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.199 see Cimitar separately, didn't we? 1179 00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.719 Oh yeah, this is my first gig since Home Front 1180 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.480 with you. Oh yes, I was as soon as it 1181 00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:13.800 was announ so I was just like, I need to 1182 00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.639 go to like it was one of my favorite records 1183 00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:20.920 of last year doing my new favorite band, like favorite 1184 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:21.519 new band. 1185 00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:23.079 I just this. 1186 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.840 The second this was available to be I was like, okay, 1187 00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:27.760 I'm breaking my cold streak, you know what. 1188 00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:32.000 Yeah, yeah, I was really amped when they added UK shows. 1189 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.079 If you don't know the band in question, then you 1190 00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:36.239 obviously didn't listen to our end of year episodes at 1191 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:37.800 the end of last year, obviously because you know, we 1192 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.639 both mentioned them to various degrees across things like the 1193 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:42.119 Award show and the Albums of the Year shows and 1194 00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.400 stuff like that. Based on their record Cinmitar Cemetarium one 1195 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.119 that came out last year, they have very swiftly in 1196 00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:51.280 the ARKU points. They followed up with Cemetary two and 1197 00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.679 then adding a UK tour for this. They're from Denmark, 1198 00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:55.760 so you know they're not always it's not always guaranteed 1199 00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:58.079 that small heavy metal bands from abroad will appear in 1200 00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.079 the UK. So I was very stoked that they I 1201 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.760 did not only like one show, but like a genuine tour, right, 1202 00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:05.239 and they aligned with Incineration for me, you could go 1203 00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:06.880 to this, so this was like one of the things 1204 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.480 I was looking forward to most out of the whole 1205 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:14.039 festival experience, right and Scimitar in again a small upstairs 1206 00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:18.719 pub venue which is the Black Cart. There are on record. 1207 00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:20.920 They are an assault on the senses. As we are 1208 00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:22.440 going to talk about soon, we're going to review the 1209 00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:25.599 new record that's just come out. But seeing that translated 1210 00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:27.559 to the live experience, not even just musically, but also 1211 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:32.280 visually where they stylistically like kind of how they present themselves. 1212 00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:37.039 They there's an odd mismatch about them which I find 1213 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.760 really kind of intriguing, and that there's not a lot 1214 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:44.000 of like thought put into the image necessarily. They do 1215 00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:47.159 just feel like a bunch of kind of eccentrics from 1216 00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:49.199 different walks of life who have just sort of like 1217 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:51.840 vomited themselves up on the stage. And like, I can't 1218 00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:53.519 remember what show it was, but I saw on again 1219 00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:55.039 like an Instagram story one of these other dates. I'm 1220 00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:57.119 pretty sure the one of the guitarists was wearing like 1221 00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:02.039 basically shirtless while wearing like leopard print legs, because you've 1222 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.400 got like guitarists who look like they've walked out the 1223 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.199 seventies like full on you know, scandy rock star sort 1224 00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:12.320 of vibes. But then this, you know, quite diminutive singer 1225 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.960 in this, you know, wearing like a floral skirt or 1226 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:20.440 something going fucking like just so intense and like flailing 1227 00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.599 around and waving our arms around and like staring down 1228 00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:26.480 the front door of the audience so intensely wailing like 1229 00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:28.840 a motherfucker, like a real I mean, did you find 1230 00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.960 this as well in terms of just like the clattering 1231 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:37.159 assault that is their records hit in the live environment 1232 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:38.360 in a way where it's like I don't quite know 1233 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:38.880 where to look. 1234 00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.679 Yeah, because like like you say, they have a guitarist 1235 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:47.000 is slightly more fancy, they have really just sort of 1236 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:51.559 like seventies hard rock and guitarists. They're bassist looks so 1237 00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:55.480 much like Cliff Burton. It was so distracting. I was like, 1238 00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.800 what the hell, Like they're just bassists have to look 1239 00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:07.000 like this like and yeah, they're The vocalist is just 1240 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:08.719 such a presence. 1241 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.000 It's so mad, like she's fucking great. But it was 1242 00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:14.800 like just wild run Shielder just like then trail off 1243 00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:19.119 and start screaming and screech elsewhere wild like really like 1244 00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:20.360 unterrible as the word. 1245 00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:24.719 Her arms flying around like currmit the Frog, like she 1246 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:28.039 is amazing and like I put up a video on 1247 00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.239 my Instagram story and one of my not metal friends 1248 00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:35.719 I was like, this is giving like scary. 1249 00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:41.760 Florence Welsh fan would say that kind of thing. 1250 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:47.159 Yeah, yeah, that sort of whaling witch thing. Yeah there. 1251 00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:50.320 I mean, such an exciting band and that's sort of 1252 00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:53.840 you'll you'll talk about it in the review. The second 1253 00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:57.320 record is so so intense. 1254 00:57:57.480 --> 00:57:58.599 It's just like. 1255 00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:04.079 Blaring, but in the live environment that really like where 1256 00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:08.559 it's not as production wise suffocating, and you do you 1257 00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:10.639 can pick out the bass parts and you can pick 1258 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:14.199 out like the actual guitar lines. It was wicked, like 1259 00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:16.119 just being able to be like, oh yeah, these are 1260 00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:21.199 recognizaboy songs when they're played by poor people like five people. 1261 00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:26.079 Yeah, just genuine just freak energy being applied to the 1262 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:30.639 instruments that like the drummer just going completely out of control. Yeah, 1263 00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:34.679 two guitarists like basically thrusting their instruments into like the 1264 00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.480 front row with the audience, like trying to impale people 1265 00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.119 with them, like really wild, really intense. Super happy that 1266 00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:44.519 they added Ukhaers and got to see them because that again, 1267 00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.000 these they are I think one of the most exciting 1268 00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:51.280 new heavy metal bands to emerge in this decade. 1269 00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:54.840 You know, Oh yeah, they have a genuine just like 1270 00:58:56.559 --> 00:59:00.000 it's live wire, you know, to use sort of a cliche, 1271 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:04.840 this is like it's just proper live exciting heavy music. 1272 00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:08.360 Yeah, basically it's not put on either, Like it doesn't 1273 00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:11.599 feel like they've oh no, crafted like some heavy bands, 1274 00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.320 and sometimes these are bands that I really like as well, 1275 00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:14.800 but it's just very deliberate in terms of, like, this 1276 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:16.400 is the kind of band we are going to be. 1277 00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:20.599 We are fitting into this certain mold. We are borrowing 1278 00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:23.000 our iconography and how we play and everything off of 1279 00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:26.320 pre established you know, molds what heavy metal band is. 1280 00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:29.559 Whereas this they do feel like on record and visually 1281 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:32.880 and when they play live, people who have almost stumbled 1282 00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:34.599 into making this insane fucking maeah. 1283 00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:39.480 When I was doing my Albums of the Year, something 1284 00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:45.199 I mentioned as a positive is that there's like it 1285 00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.960 sounds like three different members are on different songs. During songs, 1286 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.199 like the instrumental will be one thing and then the 1287 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:56.400 vocalist will be doing a completely different song, like and 1288 00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:58.599 like you're saying, just everything about them visually, the way 1289 00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.519 they move, the way they interact. One of the guitarists 1290 01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:03.960 was just like not on stage for half of it 1291 01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:07.159 because he was just wandering about and that just back 1292 01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:10.480 to the audience a bunch, and that's not planned, Like 1293 01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:13.719 you can't plan. Oh, what I'm gonna do is have 1294 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.360 my back to the audience for half the set because 1295 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:20.679 I'm trying to figure out where to walk next. And yeah, 1296 01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:26.159 I mean the spontaneity and sort of ramsackle nature of 1297 01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:31.119 it even meant that I only saw like half a set. 1298 01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:33.760 Oh yeah, they broke the electrics in Glasgow, didn't they. 1299 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:38.199 Yeah, they blew something. It was just like they were 1300 01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:41.679 at the end of the first song on Cementarium one. 1301 01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.079 Luckily it was at the end, otherwise i'd be furious. 1302 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:47.679 Yeah, I think after that. I think the play song 1303 01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:49.679 they played after that was like one of the really 1304 01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:52.079 fucking long like ten there's a slower one I think 1305 01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:54.119 on the second record, it's like a ten minute long 1306 01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.519 song or something. Yeah, they played that after that song, 1307 01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:57.440 and that was the end of set. 1308 01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:01.079 So okay, okay, it's not as bad as I imagine 1309 01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:04.119 that that would have been really cool to see. But 1310 01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:08.599 it was just like you're watching this crazy, wild, fiery 1311 01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:13.480 heavy metal band. There's a bright, bright light and then 1312 01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:19.599 suddenly darkness for like a minute where everyone's so just confused. 1313 01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:22.000 But what I love about it is the band seems 1314 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:25.840 so unbothered and so casual about it, where I'm like, 1315 01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:28.280 does this happen all the time? They just did not. 1316 01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:36.199 Leaving a trail of broken fruises across Europe. Yeah yeah, 1317 01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:38.920 one of the more metal baby absolutely one of the 1318 01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:42.960 more unpredictable you can live wire live experiences in like 1319 01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:46.599 heavy metal. I think right now I'm really excitedly Scimitar. 1320 01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.000 Hope they come over again soon and this isn't the 1321 01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:51.519 last we see them, because they are again. It's quite 1322 01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:54.480 a exciting band right now. Onto the incineration day proper 1323 01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:57.199 for me, this Saturday just gone, like I said, across 1324 01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:01.719 several venues in the London Camden area. The first band 1325 01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:03.559 that I made sure to get out and see is 1326 01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.840 de Vegina fry Height. Concideration for me because again it's 1327 01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:09.039 it's across several venues, You've got your clashes and stuff. 1328 01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:11.760 I'm usually very good at being able to basically curate 1329 01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:13.960 a day of going back and forth where I only 1330 01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:16.280 see bands I'm just like really fucking jazzed about, you know, 1331 01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:18.840 like I can always fill a day with just like 1332 01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:22.320 bands I love, so the case in point. First thing 1333 01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:24.199 de Vegana fry Height, who are one of the best 1334 01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:27.599 black meltal bands the last ten years or so in 1335 01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.960 the tri Borum first of all, Wicked, like I was 1336 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:32.599 trying to sell them to someone, and I'd describe them 1337 01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:34.559 as like post black metal, but they haven't forgotten how 1338 01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:37.079 to be evil in that like it's it needs post 1339 01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:40.400 black metal that is fucking intense and dark at the 1340 01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:42.880 same time, and it will be soaring and stirring as 1341 01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.880 much as it is like scathing, and that is a 1342 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.000 flavor that I love in their records. I've seen them 1343 01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:50.480 a few times. I would say this is maybe one 1344 01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:51.880 of the better times I've seen them live, because I 1345 01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:53.960 do sometimes associate them with being a band who like 1346 01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.559 tech issues and sound wise and stuff. It hasn't always 1347 01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.960 like sound systems haven't always gotten there, you know, clause 1348 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.840 around it completely in the way that you would hope 1349 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:06.199 in these times that I've seen them, But this one 1350 01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.079 was pretty good in that regard, Like, you know, again 1351 01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:09.840 having the keyboard tracks and stuff like that, they were 1352 01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:12.039 coming through pretty well, along with obviously the pure for 1353 01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.760 oce intensity of the band, like playing confrontly on stage 1354 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:18.719 with the nut so blasting drummer and all that stuff. 1355 01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:20.559 And they played, you know, quite a bit off the 1356 01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.559 most recent record, which I liked very much. When they 1357 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.800 came out into last year, they specific I remember them. 1358 01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:27.159 They played that song Aos of It, which is the 1359 01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:29.079 one that has like basically the behemoth riff, like the 1360 01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:34.360 most like blackened evil, furious riff on that that song 1361 01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:38.000 really hit like a tree. And then as they have 1362 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:40.320 kind of a chosen to, you know, fall back onto 1363 01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:43.000 doing generally closing on the track alf Brook, which is 1364 01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:44.760 the first song on Finished Deer, which is like their 1365 01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:48.039 classic record. I think I'm never mad about seeing that live, 1366 01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:50.760 like the journey that takes you on the choirs that 1367 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:53.760 they layer in and this like just ten minute, sprawling, 1368 01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:56.199 fucking rocket to the moon. You know that you're just 1369 01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:59.119 sat atop when that song's playing out, fucking wicked. And 1370 01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:00.920 again they had a really good and people who are 1371 01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.079 visibly like they're for them and into it and even 1372 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.000 singing it along and stuff during those choir wald parts. 1373 01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:07.880 Stuff as well was really really good. So enjoyable start 1374 01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:10.719 to day with deveg Fry. Then I did my first 1375 01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:12.719 of several, as I said, runs back and forth because 1376 01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:14.079 I went from the electric boar room up to the 1377 01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.559 roundhouse because I wanted to see what it's like seeing 1378 01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:21.679 in the roundhouse. Grave miasthma, who are if you are 1379 01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:23.920 a real underground death metal ahead, then you might well 1380 01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:26.079 be familiar with Graving Asthma because they are one of 1381 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:30.039 the more important bands from the late noughties going into 1382 01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:33.440 twenty ten's in terms of helping to really, you know, 1383 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:38.480 set up this kind of cavernous, evil, esoteric, really underground 1384 01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:41.599 death metal movement. Like they're a quite seminal band for 1385 01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:45.719 a small sub sector of death metal basically, and you know, 1386 01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:47.280 they are a UK band, so they are they do 1387 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:50.039 be about, but they're not meant to play the Roundhouse. 1388 01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:53.400 That's fucking weird. Like they are a two hundred cap 1389 01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:56.880 venue band. And when I saw that they were opening 1390 01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:59.199 the main stage in the Roundhouse, like that is so strange. 1391 01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.840 I have to say that because you're never I don't 1392 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:03.320 know if they've ever had the opportunity to play a 1393 01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:05.760 venue like that before. They certainly won't be playing the 1394 01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:08.000 Roundhouse again, imagine unless they get But for an insinuation 1395 01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:11.519 in a future year, seeing Grave of Aasma in the Roundhouse, 1396 01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:13.960 it was what I imagined in that they're not meant 1397 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:18.440 to play the Roundhouse because big massive venue again sort 1398 01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:21.159 of obviously in the round type sound for what is 1399 01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:23.679 one of the mustiest death metal bands I think you 1400 01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:27.760 could imagine right then it doesn't. It's not a perfect translation, right, 1401 01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:30.000 So you know it was this as good as when 1402 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.280 I've seen Gravey Asba playing a more appropriate venue. No, 1403 01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:34.719 it wasn't, but it was really novel being like, that's 1404 01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:38.119 fucking grave miasthma. What are they doing playing this stage 1405 01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:41.400 that I associate with against bands like I don't know, 1406 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:44.360 fucking architects or whatever in the twenty tens playing places 1407 01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:47.280 like the Roundhouse, like really wild, very cool to see 1408 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:51.079 ran back because when I said that, there were things 1409 01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.920 that got added to this that made it unmissible for me. Really, 1410 01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:58.480 the thing that made it so was when they added 1411 01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:03.039 A Feather and Bone onto bill, which talking about the 1412 01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:05.119 greatest death metal bands of the last like ten to 1413 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:08.320 fifteen years, I would put a Feather and Bone based 1414 01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:10.599 on their two albums that are actually death metal album 1415 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:12.719 which are their latest two albums, I would put them 1416 01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:15.679 in that category. I love this band and you know, 1417 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:18.079 long time listeners. I spoke to a couple at the 1418 01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:20.599 festival may remember back in kind of my early days 1419 01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:22.320 a team, and I'm really talking about the record that 1420 01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:23.800 they put in twenty eighteen and just be like this 1421 01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:28.320 band fucking rip. They're so insane. And the followup record 1422 01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:30.480 that came out in twenty twenty, like Peak Covid, really 1423 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:36.000 fucking awesome as well, but Feather and Bone vanished basically 1424 01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:39.159 where again they put out that record like Peak Covid, 1425 01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.360 so obviously weren't playing live for support or anything like that, 1426 01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:45.639 and then just seemed to like just disappear into hibernation 1427 01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:47.760 for a while while you know, the first half of 1428 01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:52.000 the twenty twenties played out, and this is their first 1429 01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.559 like reappearance really certainly over here on the side of 1430 01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:57.000 the Atlantic in kind of that time. And I have 1431 01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:00.679 also a personal like cross to bear with this. In 1432 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:03.480 the in twenty nineteen, so off the back of the 1433 01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:06.880 Bethel Hymns of Perversion record, they played what I think 1434 01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:11.440 is their only UK show prior to this, which is 1435 01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:14.440 they played in London with Too Mold and another death 1436 01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:17.960 metabow called ritual Necremancy. And I was going to that show, 1437 01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:21.960 but unfortunately my bus I think it was London Fashion 1438 01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:25.440 Week or something something. There was really fucking heavy traffic 1439 01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:27.519 in the London area and my bus got stuck in 1440 01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:31.000 traffic for ages, so much so that I got to 1441 01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:33.599 the show late and missed a Feather and Bone and 1442 01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:35.559 I got there for two mold and I watched it 1443 01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:38.519 Ritual Necromancy as well, but I had missed arguably the 1444 01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:40.840 band I was like most excited to see on that show. 1445 01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:43.800 And then like six months later COVID happened, and Feather 1446 01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:47.039 and Boats vanished from existence for a while basically, and 1447 01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:51.360 this seven years almost after that show, is the first 1448 01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:55.440 time I have had to rectify that that horrible experience 1449 01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:57.639 of missing that band. So as soon as they got 1450 01:07:57.679 --> 01:07:59.639 adit Incineration, but I was like, Okay, I have to go, like, 1451 01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:01.880 that's the thing that they're not adding any shows around it, 1452 01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:03.159 so that's the thing I've got to be there for. 1453 01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:08.400 And my god, those seven years of waiting after that, 1454 01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:13.320 you know, mishap experience very very very much paid off 1455 01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:16.079 here because this is and it's not just me as well, 1456 01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:17.880 because I have that particular sort of relationship with it 1457 01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:19.439 where they are a bound who I've really championed and 1458 01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:21.359 then unfortunately missed all this kind of stuff. But I 1459 01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:24.119 kind of heard mutterings after the fact where I think 1460 01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:27.119 they went down as one of the like bands of 1461 01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:29.399 the weekend who stole it. Really like Dragon to Sun 1462 01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:31.520 Like are what Dragon to Sun Like are, and people 1463 01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:34.039 will reliably be wowed by that. But I don't think 1464 01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:37.640 people quite knew how sick a feather Abote were going 1465 01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:39.399 to because they've not been around here, right, people haven't 1466 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:43.520 built up the relationship. This was fucking insane, like they 1467 01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:47.760 were so genuinely I think one of the fastest, heaviest 1468 01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:51.039 death metal shows I've ever seen. Like it was so 1469 01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:54.000 it was like being saort aid. It was so intense, 1470 01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:58.479 considering like a gravenasthma in the roundhouse, not you know, 1471 01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:02.039 necessarily equipped for a death metal type show sound system 1472 01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:05.720 in the underworld for a feather and bone right close quarters, 1473 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:08.039 just being beaten into a pulp by a band who 1474 01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:10.399 I have again when we spoken about their records, spoken 1475 01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:13.000 about them how they are kind of a band where 1476 01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:15.800 they play and you go, oh, other death metal bands 1477 01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:18.600 are pussies, like they're just they're just like no one. 1478 01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:21.760 No one is playing as like fast and hard as 1479 01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:23.720 they are playing outside of a pisc Grave, right, who 1480 01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:25.439 are now? You know? Now pis Grave seem to have 1481 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:27.359 you know, sailed off into the great death metal beyond 1482 01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:30.079 a Feather and Bone arguably the hardest death thattal band 1483 01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:31.760 in the world right now, I would say, And the 1484 01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:37.119 live performance for me perfectly translated that three piece with 1485 01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:43.319 this like really powerful stance, imposing bassist, vocalist at the front, 1486 01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.560 a guitarist on the side, and then a drummer at 1487 01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:49.000 the back. Who, my fucking god, that man can blast 1488 01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:52.479 like full on ear is exploding with every stroke of 1489 01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:54.640 that snare drum, and he was hitting it probably damn fast. 1490 01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.359 It was so brutalizing, Like these are a set mixed 1491 01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:01.079 off thegue and the latest two records, which are both 1492 01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:03.560 just so intense and so fast. And it was one 1493 01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:05.279 of those where you know, with the people I was with, 1494 01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:07.600 and even in just the crowd in general, just every 1495 01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:09.439 time they were kicking to something, you look back and 1496 01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:12.199 forth and go, oh, how fucking sick is this? Just 1497 01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:16.079 so everyone could just sense that again, many people have 1498 01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:18.359 seen many many death metal shows, right that occasionally you 1499 01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:19.880 see a band who are a step above just in 1500 01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:22.359 terms of that fucking turn of pace and that agro, 1501 01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:26.520 that vitriolic aggression, And that's what I connected within the 1502 01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:29.680 featherumone records, and it is so so they're in the 1503 01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:33.840 live show as well. They were fucking so good, like sober, 1504 01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:35.279 Like I said, Dragon to some lightter a band who 1505 01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:38.119 you expect that level of brilliance from. But in terms 1506 01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:41.199 of like coming away going, oh my god, did you 1507 01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:42.680 see that? A Feather and Bone for me was like 1508 01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.680 the set of the Weekend. It was just so furious 1509 01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:49.079 as well as again the latest two records, which fucking 1510 01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:54.159 baptized in boiling flen right, the hardest, sickest like shit 1511 01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:56.479 to go along with what they're doing. They played a 1512 01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:59.720 new song as well, and so they're like, you know, 1513 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.600 becoming record. I imagine is now the death metal record 1514 01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:04.600 that I am like most looking forward to for the 1515 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:07.560 foreseeable future, you know, And I hope that when that 1516 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:11.159 comes they can kind of re enter the conversation basically 1517 01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:13.439 because like I said, they had that sick record in 1518 01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:16.319 the late twenty tens dropped another record mid COVID, but 1519 01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:18.079 things got lost because that's kind of what happens in 1520 01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:21.039 mid COVID, right, But now you know, so much has 1521 01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:24.359 happened in death metal in the last six seven years, 1522 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:29.720 and if they emerge with another record, I really hope 1523 01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:31.720 that that puts them more more people's radars who have 1524 01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:33.199 maybe come to death metal in the last like, you know, 1525 01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:37.600 handful of years, because this felt like a really big 1526 01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:40.680 like welcome back, you know, like a band who basically 1527 01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:44.279 disappeared during the COVID time, but in terms of reinserting 1528 01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:47.680 themselves into the death motal conversation, this was fucking awesome. 1529 01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:50.119 Cannot wait for the record A Feather and Bone. If 1530 01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:51.439 you don't know them, if this is your first time 1531 01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:53.279 hearing about them, because maybe you didn't hear that record 1532 01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:56.279 from six years ago, just this is the time to 1533 01:11:56.319 --> 01:12:01.319 get on board because it's so intense, so brilliant. I 1534 01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:03.039 went from there. I tried to go and watch a 1535 01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:06.680 bit a Final Dose because they were in the black Heart, 1536 01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:08.680 and that I stayed to the very end of Feather 1537 01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:10.199 and Bog, because of course I did. That was what 1538 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:13.000 I was really there for. Ran as soon as they 1539 01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:14.479 were you know, maybe I didn't run, but you know 1540 01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:16.680 I walked with swiftness as soon as they were done 1541 01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:18.239 around the corner to the black Heart, and it had 1542 01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:20.319 immediately filled up and become like a one in one 1543 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:23.319 out situation with the que So I did not see 1544 01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:26.039 Final Dose. I'm gonna I know that they've got several 1545 01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:27.520 shows lined up over the course of the year, so 1546 01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:29.439 I'm sure I can catch them elsewhere, But like, I 1547 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:31.920 think they've got a real you know, in this type crowd, 1548 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.159 there's buzz that's built with Final Dose based on the 1549 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:35.479 kind of thing that we were talking about last year, 1550 01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:38.600 So I think, you know, they were definitely drawing crowds 1551 01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:40.399 and drawing haird nothing in a small venue like the 1552 01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:42.960 black Heart that filled up very quickly, but you know, 1553 01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:45.840 it's nice to see people being so into them, right, 1554 01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:48.079 particularly when you think about you we've got Damnation coming up, 1555 01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:50.520 and they're supporting Wolf and the Thrown Room and Worm 1556 01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:52.560 on that tour around dan Dation, Like that's fucking cool. 1557 01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:55.119 So I didn't see any Final Dose sadly. I'm definitely 1558 01:12:55.159 --> 01:12:57.079 gonna make sure I can at another show later in 1559 01:12:57.079 --> 01:12:58.760 the year, but it was nice to see that the 1560 01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:00.960 room filled up so quickly for them. I suppose the 1561 01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:03.800 upside of missing Final Doses. I got to make sure 1562 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:05.880 I got to the Browndhouse, you know, fully there to 1563 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:08.039 see two molds you know about who I had seen 1564 01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:12.359 before based on that twenty nineteen show, but another rare appearance. 1565 01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:15.000 I think this might be their first UK show post COVID, 1566 01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:18.439 which is pretty wild, like when you consider the the 1567 01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.239 regularity that about like Blood and Cantation now come over 1568 01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:22.560 to the UK with And I think you know that 1569 01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:24.880 they're basically who Too Mold just like kind of second 1570 01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:26.560 in line to in terms of the current you know, 1571 01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:30.600 proggy death metal sort of stakes and popularity and stuff 1572 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:33.920 like that. They're much much rareer appearance. And I think 1573 01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:35.520 that they were one where they got added to Incineration. 1574 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:37.479 Lots of people bought their ticket to see that, because 1575 01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:40.439 how often see you tod Too Mold, right? And I 1576 01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:42.119 know that again this was the slot where Dragon Sunlight 1577 01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:43.279 had played just before, and I think there were a 1578 01:13:43.279 --> 01:13:44.479 lot of people were like om and aar and like 1579 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:46.359 do I see Dragon Sunlight or do I, you know, 1580 01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:48.439 run and get in there for Two Mold. I think 1581 01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:50.800 there were probably some intentional crowd splitting going on, because 1582 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:53.000 those are arguably the two most like popular bands of 1583 01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:56.239 at least the mid card of what Incineration was this year, 1584 01:13:56.279 --> 01:13:58.439 So trying to not crowd everyone into one venue, I 1585 01:13:58.439 --> 01:14:01.960 suppose I obviously, I I said, saw Drag already, so 1586 01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:05.399 I went over and saw Two Mold and again a 1587 01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:08.079 band I had seen before, but they have released one 1588 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:10.359 record since then. It was that very the most proggy 1589 01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:12.359 one they'd done right a couple of years ago. I 1590 01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:14.479 imagine we probably must be due with two Mold record 1591 01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:16.840 within the next couple of years because it's been like 1592 01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:19.560 three years at this stage. And it's nicely them back 1593 01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:23.760 in the live environment, but really fun time seeing took 1594 01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:27.319 again in the roundhouse. Pretty cool to see a band 1595 01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:30.399 of this, you know statue in the underground film that place. 1596 01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:32.960 The way they did was it as perfect sound wise 1597 01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:34.479 as for example, seeing a feather and bone in the 1598 01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:37.199 underweld because it's not built for it. No, it wasn't, 1599 01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:40.760 but you did get enough of those like cavernous grooves 1600 01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:43.159 from some of the earlier two more stuff like they 1601 01:14:43.159 --> 01:14:45.800 played at least one song from the debut two Old record, 1602 01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:47.000 which is like when I got into them, it was like, 1603 01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:48.840 oh this band who they sound like Demelich right, and 1604 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.439 they've got that weird wonkey finish nature for it and 1605 01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:53.479 going super old school with that was really nice. But 1606 01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:55.600 then also the stuff I think really shone in this 1607 01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:59.079 set considering the setting, was when they really let the 1608 01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:01.920 prog go and Derek, who is one of the most 1609 01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:04.520 expressive like death metal guitar players in the world right 1610 01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:07.159 now doing those like sitting he's like the fucking I 1611 01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:09.680 don't know, like the Joe Satriani of current death metal 1612 01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:12.439 right the way he just turns up and lets these incredible, 1613 01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:17.079 beautiful flourishes of like clean guitar work and stuff like 1614 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:19.159 that come out of the death metal songs. Was like 1615 01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:22.920 really like sumptuous and absolutely music to the years, really 1616 01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:25.279 really lovely, like it was the only music I heard 1617 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:28.920 all weekend, really incineration that I would describe as nice, 1618 01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:31.720 like it was a nice time. And that's from the 1619 01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:34.359 band called two Mold. You know, Two Molt. Whole thing 1620 01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:36.640 is that they basically don't look cool like they are, 1621 01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:40.800 like they are very lovably just a bunch of guys, 1622 01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:43.319 kind of a bunch of kind of dorky looking guys, basically 1623 01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.720 to the extent that when some people may remembered this 1624 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:48.840 when their last record came out, they were on the 1625 01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.920 cover of Decibel for that record, and it's just these 1626 01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:55.720 three guys all wearing like tiny little shorts and wearing like, 1627 01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:59.399 you know, video game t shirts or whatever. And it 1628 01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:01.560 kind of started discourse in certain death metal because of 1629 01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:02.920 the people like, is this what we're allowing? There's death 1630 01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:05.520 metal bands these days, like these guys who put no 1631 01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:09.479 presentation into like looking tough or whatever. And you know, 1632 01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.680 here no shots unfortunately this time, which was genuinely unusual, 1633 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:16.439 but like Derek was wearing a sting T shirt, I'm 1634 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:18.720 pretty sure. And then just like you know, jumping up 1635 01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:21.000 and down with his little fucking bottle haircut and stuff. 1636 01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:24.199 But like, really you can letting those incredible parts fly 1637 01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:27.479 Canadian to the point that so too Mold have a 1638 01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:29.960 singing drummer, which I don't know how many people who 1639 01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:31.520 haven't seen them live are actually aware of that, but like 1640 01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:33.479 the frontmount of two Mold is the drummer, which is 1641 01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:37.000 you know, obviously always intensely impressive. And then he got 1642 01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:39.520 these amazing guitarists and a bassis on either side of him, 1643 01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:43.720 just you know, fully fucking virtuo sewing out. But when 1644 01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:45.399 he was you know, singing and playing drums, he had 1645 01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:47.239 some problem with like one of his symbols. They kept 1646 01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:50.119 like falling down and he was visibly struggling with it 1647 01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:51.560 a little bit in terms of like trying to continue 1648 01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:53.279 the song, but also you know, fix what was going 1649 01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:54.680 wrong with a kit, and so when one of the 1650 01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:57.039 stage hands ran out and fixed it, he's like mid 1651 01:16:57.079 --> 01:17:00.000 growl and playing these like intense tech tech death parts 1652 01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:02.039 to be like you and just immediately let's out a 1653 01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:05.840 Canadian thank you. Well continued back. It's like so Canadian. 1654 01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:09.159 Even playing hyper intense technical death metal and growling at 1655 01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:10.960 the same time will not stop you from thanking the 1656 01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:16.760 stage hand who fixed your symbolstand But yeah, nice again 1657 01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:19.520 reminder of how good Too Mold are Because you know, 1658 01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:21.239 I hadn't seen them live in seven years. I'm sure 1659 01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:23.520 for most people probably that was their first time seeing 1660 01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:26.279 Two Old. I would hope if we get a record soon, 1661 01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:28.680 I would hope they also returned to the UK with 1662 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:31.479 more regularity, because I can understand maybe again during the 1663 01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:34.279 earlier half of this decade when we had the after 1664 01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:36.680 effects of COVID and everything not appearing so much. But 1665 01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:38.600 it'd be nice if, you know, more people got to 1666 01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:40.399 see two more because they are such a popular band 1667 01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:43.199 of that again kind of current demographic of death metal 1668 01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:47.600 from there. Hung around in the roundhouse actually, and I 1669 01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:50.600 saw the band Grave no Miasthma this time, just plain 1670 01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:53.760 Old Grave, which is the Swedish death metal band, one 1671 01:17:53.800 --> 01:17:56.800 of the original Swedish death metal bands, along with the 1672 01:17:56.840 --> 01:18:00.479 likes of Entombed and Dismember and Unleashed and Grave aboud 1673 01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:02.359 I've long been fond of They've never gotten as like 1674 01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:04.479 you know, they've never had the crossover moment that for example, 1675 01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:07.920 Entombed had, But I've always felt that Grave are maybe 1676 01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:10.760 the most consistent of those bands, Like they just reliably 1677 01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:13.960 released records that are fun and sick and deliver those 1678 01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:17.479 that start of riff basically all the way through their career. 1679 01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:20.000 But this time it was the I think the original 1680 01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:22.119 lineup had, Like you know, they've had a few lineup 1681 01:18:22.159 --> 01:18:23.800 change with people disappearing and whatnot, and the sort of 1682 01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:25.319 the knock on effect of this, and they end up 1683 01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:27.880 just getting the original lineup from like the late eighties 1684 01:18:28.439 --> 01:18:31.760 back together, and so they were just playing an original 1685 01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:34.439 lineup like early Years thing. And bizarrely, the one other 1686 01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:37.319 time I've seen Grave was at the Netherlands Death Fest 1687 01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:40.960 in twenty eighteen, when they also then had built it 1688 01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:44.760 as a special Early Years like demos up to the 1689 01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:47.399 first album set. So I've seen Grave twice and both 1690 01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:50.039 times I've only seen music from up to about nineteen 1691 01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:52.000 ninety two, right, And like I said, they are a 1692 01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:53.760 very consistent band that I like some of their later records, 1693 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:55.520 but there is something just so sick about going back 1694 01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:57.159 in time. But like, yeah, this is like the original 1695 01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:02.039 Swedish death metal. No, you know, no non essential material, 1696 01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:06.039 no excess anything like that, just like raw, fucking pomping, ripping, 1697 01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:10.159 early hn two Swedish death metal. And they're fucking great 1698 01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:11.359 at that, you know. Again, just basically a bunch of 1699 01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:13.039 Swedish dads. But they're playing in the BrownHouse and they've 1700 01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:15.560 got some pyros and that kind of starting to go up. 1701 01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:18.399 And like I said, tracks from the first couple of albums, 1702 01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:22.000 even the demos preceding the first album, which is to 1703 01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:24.399 some filthy material. If you're into bands like either like 1704 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:26.880 Repugnant or whatever in like the last you know, twenty 1705 01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:30.520 first century, then the early grave stuff is definitely to 1706 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:33.239 to go back for and enjoy. So a nice walk 1707 01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:35.680 down memory lane once again to another early Year's Grave 1708 01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:37.560 set from one of the great early death metal bands 1709 01:19:37.960 --> 01:19:40.720 I did end up catching. I don't normally go incineration 1710 01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.159 to the Electric Ballroom headliner because it happens right before 1711 01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:44.800 the Rounhouse headliner and you know you have to run 1712 01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:47.079 that kind of thing. I did end up seeing Plan To, 1713 01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:51.079 but I saw a bit of hypocrisy Peter Tagrin's melodic 1714 01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:54.119 death metal band, who were again in that slot. I've 1715 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:56.319 never been. This might be surprising. I've never been like 1716 01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:58.880 a huge hypocrisy guy. Like. I think that they are 1717 01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:02.640 a like Fie, a pretty fine band, like I always 1718 01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:04.479 if they're on, I'm not mad about it. I think 1719 01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:07.039 they've got a bunch of good material, good records they 1720 01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:09.960 don't have. I would say a single record that I 1721 01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:11.920 am like all in order and a door like one 1722 01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:15.079 that I look at and go, that's an absolute fucking 1723 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:18.520 you know, extreme metal, underground metal classic. They've never connected 1724 01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:21.119 with me quite in that way, but I will say, 1725 01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:24.159 I mean considering again Peter as a as a producer 1726 01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:26.800 and a thing. He's the vocalist on my favorite blood 1727 01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:28.880 Bath album. Like, he does have his fingers in things 1728 01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:32.960 that I absolutely love. But his actual main bands, like 1729 01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:36.760 I've never been a fanatic about. But I like a 1730 01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:38.520 POxy well enough. I know that I can catching a 1731 01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:39.840 little bit of it, and I'm glad that I did because, 1732 01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:41.319 like you know, again, not a band I would necessarily 1733 01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:42.760 always be going to see, but like it was nice 1734 01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:45.039 to tick them off essentially as a very long running 1735 01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:47.880 respect to extream metal band. And they do have amongst 1736 01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:51.239 the like Swedish melodic death metal bands, which is what 1737 01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:53.680 they are. They don't really sound like the other ones, 1738 01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:55.279 like they do have their own weird brand of it, 1739 01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:57.840 Like they don't sound like in Flames or at the Gates, 1740 01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:01.039 They don't sound like a moder math or Enemy or whatever. 1741 01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:03.520 They have their own particular brand of it based around 1742 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:08.680 Peter's like very distinctive kind of barbed production sound that 1743 01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:12.680 makes guitars sound really like mechanical and nechanized, but also 1744 01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:16.800 it brings this like vastness and this kind of epic flavor, 1745 01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:20.399 not in again a monomath like particularly like you know, 1746 01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:24.319 heroic way, but just more like this kind of imposing 1747 01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:27.000 grandeur about it with the extra layers of keyboards and 1748 01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.000 stuff like that, and like it's very like reliably decent stuff. 1749 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:32.159 And I saw you know, maybe four or five songs 1750 01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:33.720 of Hypoposim was like, okay, cool, like this is the 1751 01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:38.560 Hypoxy live experience. Did that wandered back to the Roundhouse 1752 01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:41.720 for the main proper headliner, which was Blood Fire Death, 1753 01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:45.560 which is the all star you know black metal lineup 1754 01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:48.720 Batha Retribute experience that has basically, you know, started up 1755 01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:52.039 two or three years ago, you know, Norwegian festivals and 1756 01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:54.439 Sandinnaviian festivals, the Imagine It world, and it has gradually 1757 01:21:54.479 --> 01:21:56.840 been going everywhere else. I have discussed this on the 1758 01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:58.600 show before because I saw it for the first time 1759 01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:00.920 at Mystic Festival last year when I went to Poland. 1760 01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:03.159 It was one of the things there that seemed the 1761 01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:06.199 most almost kind of out of the ordinary, and that 1762 01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:08.479 it wasn't playing in the UK right Like there was like, 1763 01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:10.840 oh my god, you know this this big bath retribute 1764 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:12.399 thing is happening when I'm at this foreign festival. So 1765 01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:14.199 I saw it there and I spoke about it there. 1766 01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:17.840 We're going to revisit a discussion unfortunately we had there, 1767 01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:22.119 which is the the lineup of the Blood Fire Death again. 1768 01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:24.039 It's it's a bunch of people who have played in 1769 01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:28.199 legendary black metal bands from from over the years. The 1770 01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:31.920 lineup includes Eric from Latin as the vocalist. It includes 1771 01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:36.720 Blasphema formerly of Mayhem on guitars, Ivar from Enslaved on guitars, 1772 01:22:37.119 --> 01:22:39.359 Apollon who used being the More and also or a 1773 01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:42.840 Noir and these type bands on bass. It has several 1774 01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:46.119 revolving guest vocalists who also appear. So when I saw 1775 01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:47.880 him last year, they had like Nurgel there, but also 1776 01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:51.399 they frequently have Attila Chiha from Mayhem. Gruteal from enslaved 1777 01:22:52.159 --> 01:22:54.199 Gal was there for this one which which was cool, 1778 01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:55.880 which was again he wasn't there when I saw it 1779 01:22:55.920 --> 01:23:00.000 last year. The drummer of this is Faust, the original 1780 01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:03.560 old drummer of Emperor, has been around in many bands 1781 01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:07.479 over the last couple of decades and again last year 1782 01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:10.239 when we spoke about the Mystic Festival thing, I was, 1783 01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:12.560 you know, I was very tentative, right, and I was 1784 01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:16.399 very wary of that being such a topic that is 1785 01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:19.319 so you know, close to the bone for so many people. 1786 01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:22.119 If you are not aware. Faust again, the original drummer 1787 01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:24.960 Emperor was sentenced to prison and convicted when he was 1788 01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:26.680 about eighteen years old or something like that for the 1789 01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.960 murder of a gay man. And he went to prison 1790 01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:31.800 and served his time there and he's now like in 1791 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:34.399 his fifties and since his emergence he has you know, 1792 01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:36.359 basically walked back into the button nel scene and has 1793 01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:38.960 played in many bands, many original bands, but now he 1794 01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:42.800 I think he most often turns up on people's radars, 1795 01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:46.439 I suppose, and gets headlines. Sometimes he has appeared with Emperor, 1796 01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:49.159 and he has again. He's the full time drummer here 1797 01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:52.199 of the Blood Fire Death tribute band for Bathory. And 1798 01:23:53.239 --> 01:24:01.840 it's such a difficult I am so so of how 1799 01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:06.319 upsetting that is, right, because it's this difficult balance that 1800 01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:11.159 I find talking about this kind of thing of believing 1801 01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:17.119 and hoping for and wanting reform essentially, and the idea 1802 01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:20.800 of someone who might well have done something terrible, like 1803 01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:24.119 absolutely heinous, should never be allowed to forget they did 1804 01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:28.880 that atrocious, but is then able to rehabilitate themselves. That's 1805 01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:30.520 something that I have belief in, and that's something that 1806 01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:32.199 I think if we don't have belief in that, then 1807 01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:34.800 what's the point in any of it? You know, That's 1808 01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:37.640 what all the stuff should be kind of aimed around, 1809 01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:44.279 versus not letting people forget these crimes, right, and how 1810 01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:47.279 that makes people feel, particularly in terms of the message 1811 01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:49.119 that's sent out there. Because the thing with Faust is, 1812 01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:51.720 from time to time in interviews and stuff like that 1813 01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:55.000 he has expressed remorse for what he did, and I 1814 01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:57.960 don't fundamentally, I don't believe Faust to be like an 1815 01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:00.720 active danger in the current metal set right, Like he's 1816 01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:03.079 been there for decades now basically being a pretty chill guy. 1817 01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:06.720 But it's the I think what people might consider the 1818 01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:10.479 appropriate gestures of like a much larger nature, like really 1819 01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:13.000 like fully making a even if he has express remorse 1820 01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:15.760 in you know, small fucking fans in interviews here or 1821 01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:18.079 there or whatever, making a full on, like the public 1822 01:25:18.119 --> 01:25:22.920 show of repenting and basically setting the standard for everyone else. 1823 01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:24.720 You know, that's kind of what you'd hope for. I 1824 01:25:24.720 --> 01:25:26.680 suppose it's like making sure that this kind of thing 1825 01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:30.000 is never allowed to happen again. And so there is 1826 01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:34.560 this struggle of again wanting to allow people to be 1827 01:25:34.560 --> 01:25:38.079 better and to reform themselves and all of that versus 1828 01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:41.760 what I am very very conscious of, which is people 1829 01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:46.800 in marginalized communities who have experienced crimes like these against 1830 01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:51.600 their communities basically being heard and being like you know, 1831 01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:54.520 feeling seen and making sure they feel safe at these 1832 01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:56.000 tup shows and stuff like that. And that is the 1833 01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:58.279 that is the real struggle there. And I basically, I 1834 01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:03.039 never want to approach anything like this and not acknowledge 1835 01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:09.319 that conversation and acknowledge the wide breadth of feeling that 1836 01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:12.279 there can be on that Does it change things at all? 1837 01:26:12.359 --> 01:26:15.600 This performance also featured possibly the most prominent outwardly gay 1838 01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:19.079 man in extreme metal, in Gull. I don't know, and 1839 01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:20.760 it's not really for me to say. Like I said, 1840 01:26:20.760 --> 01:26:23.640 that is just the facts of how it is. It's 1841 01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:28.319 a very again complicated, I totally understand, very upsetting dilemma. 1842 01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:30.600 But I never want to speak about anything like this 1843 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.680 and as I say, not make people are really aware 1844 01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:36.560 of it, you know, and not acknowledge it if you 1845 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:38.920 are able to reconcile that and how personally you feel 1846 01:26:38.920 --> 01:26:43.800 about that dilemma. The blood Fire eth Bathory tribute experience. 1847 01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:45.600 I did speak about it last year. This was the 1848 01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:47.760 first UK appearance of it, so I think a lot 1849 01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:50.880 of people who had been eyeing up these experiences, this, 1850 01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:55.600 you know, huge spectacle essentially for the black metal world abroad. 1851 01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:58.319 Again it places like Beyond the Gates or whatever, wondering 1852 01:26:58.359 --> 01:27:00.319 if it could appear in the UK. This was a 1853 01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:04.199 pretty huge get for Incineration as the first, possibly only 1854 01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:06.920 UK appearance of this like full on Bathory experience. And 1855 01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:08.680 what was special thing about this one is that, like 1856 01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:10.880 I said, I'd already seen it at Mystic, but it 1857 01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:14.319 was looking around me at people who hadn't seen it before, 1858 01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:18.000 like just with this look of like disbelief on their 1859 01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:19.680 face and kind of the look of magic about it. 1860 01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:23.560 Because Bathory, by rights, we should be seeing that music 1861 01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:26.880 on stage played by the guy who made it right 1862 01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:29.560 and Kawforn never played Bathory live. It was a studio 1863 01:27:29.560 --> 01:27:31.960 and experience, but there was I think at times there 1864 01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:34.000 was talk about if they were to bring it to 1865 01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:36.479 the stage, and that's kind of the almost the the 1866 01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:38.439 guy that this band has like followed as like how 1867 01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:40.159 would we present bath three music on stage if it 1868 01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:42.840 was to go there. But in terms of like formative music, 1869 01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:46.039 the way that you can go and see Metallica playing 1870 01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:48.720 Kill Them All songs, and you can see Trypticon playing 1871 01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:50.800 Celtic FROs songs, and you can go see Slayer or 1872 01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:54.960 whatever like this is like base level formative, essential ground 1873 01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:58.199 zero for you know, the direction that heavy metal goes 1874 01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:02.279 type stuff. And so seeing this material that for many 1875 01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:04.399 people is like the most formative black met material they 1876 01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:07.920 can imagine played on stage for the first time because 1877 01:28:07.960 --> 01:28:10.279 it's never been done before, at least to this you know, 1878 01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:13.319 level of like legitimacy, because it's basically like, yeah, it's 1879 01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:16.560 a tribute band, but it's like an officially licensed tribute 1880 01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:20.560 band featuring players who are very integral to that scene. Right, 1881 01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:24.640 So seeing it presented with this level of legitimacy, people 1882 01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:26.840 can't quite believe it, Like it's like, what do you mean, 1883 01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:29.159 I'm seeing Bathary songs like it's fucking crazy in a 1884 01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:31.920 huge venue with again Pyro and all of this stuff, 1885 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:35.239 and it, like you material from those like classic eighties 1886 01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:38.600 run of records that is like again ground zero black metal. 1887 01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:42.840 It's pretty unbelievable and opening with a Fine Day to Die, 1888 01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:46.760 as they often have been doing on this But when 1889 01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:48.920 I saw it last year, a mystic it was the 1890 01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:50.560 front of room and slave who sang that, But here 1891 01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:53.039 it was Ghl, which is another wonderful thing, was girl 1892 01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:56.640 being present, not just here but at the festival. We 1893 01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:59.439 were stood in the alley outside the Black Heart like 1894 01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:02.000 before the He's eventually kicked in and Gahl walked down 1895 01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.119 the street and you could tense, like you could sense 1896 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:06.239 that everyone in this alley, was like, it is that girl, 1897 01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:11.560 because he's this very tall, imposing, striking looking man. Just 1898 01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:14.560 he carries this like proper level of star power around 1899 01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:17.119 it wherever he goes. But him singing A Fine Day 1900 01:29:17.199 --> 01:29:21.279 to Die was really intense, particularly because girl one of 1901 01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:26.960 the most vocally capable of inhuman things black mett all singers, 1902 01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:29.119 and he hit at one point in this what I 1903 01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:32.800 could only describe as like a black metal Mariah whistle note, 1904 01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:35.000 to the point where he like, you know when singers 1905 01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:37.039 like hold their like finger to their head as if 1906 01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:39.439 they're trying to hit a certain note. I'm not again, 1907 01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:42.039 I'm not capable or proficient enough to really know what 1908 01:29:42.079 --> 01:29:44.520 that is. But he did one of those and hit 1909 01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:47.680 like a whistle scream. It was so weird, and I 1910 01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:50.159 was like, I can't believe a man is making that noise. 1911 01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:55.640 But girl hitting that what an absolute fucking icon incredible. 1912 01:29:56.359 --> 01:30:00.520 But then there's deeper for real. But then you know 1913 01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:03.680 Eric from Wattin being almost like the chair of how 1914 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:06.840 his experience goes, and he is I think amongst black 1915 01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:10.159 met vocalists, he's uniquely equipped to like making you feel 1916 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:12.720 like this stuff is real, Basically like in how he 1917 01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:16.079 speaks to the audience, like they played the song for 1918 01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:19.720 those who died by Bathory obviously, and he was like, 1919 01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:21.520 this is a song it's basically about like witch burnings 1920 01:30:21.520 --> 01:30:22.800 and stuff like that. And he was like, this is 1921 01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:26.119 a song for our like our mothers and sisters of 1922 01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:28.239 the Black Hand. May we you know, it's like you 1923 01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:29.920 may we always remember them? Like he really made a 1924 01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:33.159 full fucking thing basically as if like we are there 1925 01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:35.640 in that moment. Whereas for that that song and that 1926 01:30:35.720 --> 01:30:37.399 kind of subject matter for many people could be very 1927 01:30:37.479 --> 01:30:39.119 kitch you know what I mean, and just very sort 1928 01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:42.239 of again sort of fantastical. But he, like Eric I think, 1929 01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:43.960 is one of the best battle Front man at making 1930 01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:46.920 you believe everything, just being like this is like real, 1931 01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:50.720 you know, like this is the continuum we're in. Uh 1932 01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:54.159 grew up from enslaved, did do you know some stuff 1933 01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:57.199 as well. Attila Chiha from Mayhem was there as well. 1934 01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:01.760 I'm fascinated by the logistical finances of this in terms 1935 01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:04.119 of like when you book a band for a festival 1936 01:31:04.439 --> 01:31:07.199 and there's five members, right, and you fly them all 1937 01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:11.119 out and they all play at Tilla and again from 1938 01:31:11.119 --> 01:31:12.840 a Slaves and they all seem to be like a 1939 01:31:12.840 --> 01:31:16.640 part of this full time almost but they only appear 1940 01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:18.479 to do a song or two. And I'm fascinated by 1941 01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:21.159 the logistics of like who's book Like what how much 1942 01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:24.199 do you get paid for this? Like are you booking 1943 01:31:24.199 --> 01:31:27.720 your own flight? Like how the Bathary tribute show? Like 1944 01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.239 camp of like how many people are on this rider 1945 01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:33.119 or whatever? Because it's like ten musicians who seem to 1946 01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:34.800 be going wherever they go, and obviously it's the big 1947 01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:36.560 headline draw at the festival. But I am that sort 1948 01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:39.760 of the logistics of who is who is not like 1949 01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:41.920 a full time member of this thing where they're doing 1950 01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:44.520 one song or two songs or whatever, is really the 1951 01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:46.079 kind of behind the see stuff you don't think about. 1952 01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:48.039 But I was intrigued by that. But a tilla from 1953 01:31:48.079 --> 01:31:52.319 Mayhem Sporting, I must say at the moment one of 1954 01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:57.279 the strangest hairstyles. It's a hairstyle that no human before 1955 01:31:57.359 --> 01:31:59.479 him has ever had. I think, like you know the 1956 01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:02.960 one I mean shown you. It's it's a real spectacle. 1957 01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:05.399 This hair, oh his hair island. 1958 01:32:07.239 --> 01:32:09.439 It's so weird. So I don't even know how to 1959 01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:11.800 like describing it without seeing a picture. For you It's 1960 01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:13.560 so weird because it's not like a normal haircut. Basically, 1961 01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:18.880 he's bold apart from the hair that's like growing like 1962 01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:21.920 above his ear basically like that level of hair line. 1963 01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.239 He has let that grow and he styled it and 1964 01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:28.600 curled it around the top of the crown of his 1965 01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:31.800 head like imagine like a twirly mustache. But it's coming 1966 01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:35.720 from the hair directly like that grows directly above your 1967 01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:38.800 ear line, and he's looked it round. He looks like 1968 01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:41.359 a monk from an alien planet. It's so insane because 1969 01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:43.159 it's hair that no one has ever had before. And 1970 01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:46.760 is it hair that I recommend anyone has? No But 1971 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:49.960 I do recommend that Attila Chiha has it because at 1972 01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:53.840 Tilla has to look like an insane person because Attilla 1973 01:32:54.960 --> 01:33:00.000 he carries this aura of one of the most maverick idea. 1974 01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:01.920 I don't know what's going on in your mind, people, 1975 01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:04.479 imaginable And do I recommend that your average lamor and 1976 01:33:04.479 --> 01:33:08.239 sports his hairstyle. Absolutely not. It's terrible. But I am 1977 01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:10.479 so happy and so glad that Atila has this hair 1978 01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:13.520 because no one could rock it and get away with 1979 01:33:13.560 --> 01:33:16.960 it the way that he does through pure freak aura. 1980 01:33:18.079 --> 01:33:21.640 Yeah, like you say, no one else, but the guy 1981 01:33:21.680 --> 01:33:25.319 who whenever I see pictures of him is usually screaming 1982 01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:29.039 into a skull. Yeah that that guy have it. He 1983 01:33:29.119 --> 01:33:32.000 should have this fucked up like coln Olver. 1984 01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:36.920 Yeah, someone who has spent so many decades finding new 1985 01:33:37.039 --> 01:33:41.199 weird ways to present himself and new looks and stuff 1986 01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:43.239 like that. Like he's like, I don't know when people 1987 01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:45.319 talk about David Bowie being a chameleon, a man of 1988 01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:46.720 a thousand looks or whatever, like this is like that 1989 01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:49.720 for people with like literal skeletons under their bed, Like 1990 01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:53.560 it's and God bless him for continuing to find new 1991 01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:57.199 ways to look and present himself as outwardly bizarre. But 1992 01:33:57.319 --> 01:33:59.239 him singing this stuff is always incredible because he just 1993 01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:01.880 has the most fucked up though. It's so brilliant. And 1994 01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:04.880 there's this brilliant thing with this Bathory show where you 1995 01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:09.199 can look around and there's so much shared history between 1996 01:34:09.239 --> 01:34:11.039 the players as well, Like there's the fact that it's 1997 01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:13.720 Bathory songs, which is so important, and these are songs 1998 01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:16.119 that kind of unite everyone on stage basically in being 1999 01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:19.640 like almost the songs that got them into this thing. 2000 01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:21.760 Basically the songs that at least set the template for 2001 01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:24.159 what their bands are going to do. But then there's 2002 01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:27.680 so much individual shared history and seeing Attila from Mayhem 2003 01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:29.680 come out and he goes over and he's danding next 2004 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:31.800 to Blasphema, who used to be in Mayhem, and it's 2005 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:34.159 like those two together, it's like, Oh, that pair those 2006 01:34:34.199 --> 01:34:37.840 guys wrote Auto ad Ko, like that one specific weird 2007 01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:40.119 record that I have such a love affare with, Like 2008 01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:43.920 that's the creative pair of minds on there together that 2009 01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:46.239 produced that record. Who are there? Played this Bathory song 2010 01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:48.760 or Woman of Dark Desires towards the end, which is 2011 01:34:48.760 --> 01:34:50.840 one of the big Bathory bangers, right, like the real 2012 01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:53.960 the ones that people know the words to. Normally, Eric 2013 01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.039 from Matane is the main singer for that song, but 2014 01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:58.079 Attilla just appeared. I think I don't know if he 2015 01:34:58.159 --> 01:34:59.640 was meant to. I think he might have just wandered out, 2016 01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:02.000 because I hear him like off stage doing his weird gurgle. 2017 01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:04.479 I was like, where's that coming from? But then he appeared, 2018 01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:08.039 and there's Eric from Wattine and Attila from Mayhem, who 2019 01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:10.800 are basically like my two favorite black metal front men 2020 01:35:11.359 --> 01:35:14.600 standing together singing this old classic Bathory song like it's 2021 01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:18.199 just there's there is something really magical about that. I 2022 01:35:18.239 --> 01:35:20.239 can't express how much like how exciting is for a 2023 01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:22.079 black metal show to be a few songs in and 2024 01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:24.239 be like, oh my god, here's Grutle from Enslaved, you know, 2025 01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:27.479 here's a tiller chee harm on, here's Ghal like it's 2026 01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:31.640 it is a big spectacle in that regard, And I said, 2027 01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:34.119 ending on as they always do the song blood Fire Death, 2028 01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:36.800 and you get the whole full fucking like like sparklers 2029 01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:38.680 coming from the top of the roundhouse ceiling and stuff 2030 01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:40.640 like that. They had a few like tech problems compared 2031 01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:42.199 to when I last saw them, where like the drum 2032 01:35:42.279 --> 01:35:44.600 microphone just repeatedly like a few times in the set 2033 01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:46.359 to shat it and there'd be like a minute where 2034 01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:49.119 you would only hear like the I guess, the organic 2035 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:51.119 tone of the drums without the amplification. But then it 2036 01:35:51.159 --> 01:35:53.479 would come back on and yeah, like I said, for 2037 01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:55.680 me the second time seeing the Bathory set, a couple 2038 01:35:55.720 --> 01:35:58.960 of different guests, a couple of different songs, you know, 2039 01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:01.439 added and removed based from last time, based on maybe 2040 01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:03.279 what guests are around. I don't know what they're deciding 2041 01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:05.159 to do, but the first time in the UK, and 2042 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:08.880 like I said, seeing lots of people who Bathy clearly 2043 01:36:08.960 --> 01:36:11.119 runs in their veins. Getting to see that for the 2044 01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:15.000 first time was again quite a memorable experience in itself. 2045 01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:17.479 And that was the end of Incineration Festival for twenty 2046 01:36:17.479 --> 01:36:19.720 twenty six. Again, don't know what they'll have next year, 2047 01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:21.239 who knows if our be there or not, but I'm 2048 01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:24.319 always at least intrigued by what is appearing on Incineration. 2049 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:27.079 Everyone who got Sea Dragon Sunlight for the first time 2050 01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:29.239 this weekend, I hope that it lived up to everything 2051 01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:30.720 that we were picking it up as I can't imagine 2052 01:36:30.760 --> 01:36:32.279 it didn't because what the fuck is wrong with you 2053 01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:35.640 and the real again eyes on the horizon for it. 2054 01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:37.439 For me, what comes next is a Feather and Bone 2055 01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:40.760 with a new record like because that was just we 2056 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:43.920 were being cooked, we were being like absolutely meets tender eyed. 2057 01:36:43.960 --> 01:36:46.600 It was fucking mentally. They were brilliant. So yeah, cheers 2058 01:36:46.600 --> 01:36:48.880 for everybody go hung out over Incineration Festival. Thank you Mark 2059 01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:50.760 for joining me here and listen to me talk a 2060 01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:53.039 little while. I spoke about the Scimitar show that ripped 2061 01:36:53.039 --> 01:36:56.600 in it, so good stuff there cheers everybody for listening. 2062 01:36:57.359 --> 01:37:00.960 We will be back next week Big show Wise are 2063 01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:03.000 obviously at some point in May we'll have a reviews bag, 2064 01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:06.159 but we are going to be looking to putting together 2065 01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:08.640 our next part of our Corn Special. Over on the 2066 01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:11.439 Patreon right now you can hear our brand new album 2067 01:37:11.439 --> 01:37:14.439 Club Special, which features the likes of bringing the Horizon 2068 01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:17.600 Municipal Waste Roller to Massy and the brilliant, brilliant band 2069 01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:21.760 Caladan Brude Festival season I supposed you know, Incineration Festival 2070 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:23.319 arriving at the very beginning of May is almost just 2071 01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:26.439 the starter of like the events coming thick and fast, 2072 01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.720 right So over the next few months, we've got Fortress, 2073 01:37:29.720 --> 01:37:32.119 We've got Outbreak and a new two thousand Trees will 2074 01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:34.920 come and go, download will come and go, all sorts 2075 01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:38.000 of kicking up over the twenty twenty sixth summer, but 2076 01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:41.319 we will be here to talk you through how we 2077 01:37:41.359 --> 01:37:44.159 see it. 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