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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend. Now here is your host, TJ. Leaves. All right,

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we get ready for a weekend that has a light

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has some heavyweights in action also from Mattroom in Orlando

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as well, Orlando, Florida on Saturday night. We've got that.

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We've got fight news. Are Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather

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seriously about to rematch? We're going to cover that and

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all the other news the week. It is the Big

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Fight Weekend preview. I am the somewhat competent host, TJ. Reeves.

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Hello to our insider, the Fight Freaks Night substack is

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where you find him and the newsletter to Big Dan Rayfield.

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Good to be back with you. We have some activity,

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so good to be with you. As we're ready to

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roll into another episode of the program. Mawth things that feel.

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Speaker 2: A little queasy about meweather Pack yet but other than them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get to that. Coming up. Eleven years, right,

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it would be roughly eleven years since the first time

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if they fought, which was like five years after they

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should have fought in the first place exactly. By the way,

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thank you for finding us. Make sure you're following, subscribing

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on the podcast feeds, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify. We're here typically

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previewing going into the weekend, recapping coming off the weekend. Again,

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it's been kind of lean, l ea and lean with

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what we have here in the US. We at least

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have some fights in England that we've been talking about,

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a tremendous heavyweight battle last week that we recapped with

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Fabio Wardley and the stoppage of Parker. By the way,

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we should make mention as well that the Mikayla Mayor

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main event tonight, which is Thursday night into Friday for us,

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that has not happened yet. While you and I are talking,

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so you know what, we're going to recap it on

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the recap podcast. When we get to everything else, we'll

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recap whatever's going on on the Eye of the Tigers

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show in Montreal. So again, for those that are wondering

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here why we are talking and not talking about that,

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we're just revealing in the chronology that main event hasn't

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happened yet. Well, you and I we're good, As I

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often say, we can't tell you what happened in a

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fight that hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 2: We're not that good, by the way, if we could,

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we wouldn't be doing a podcast. That's that's correct, we'd

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be out of here.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. All right to that end, let's get

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into it a little bit here with what we do

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have in the preview mode, and that is Joshua Bououtzi

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and Zach Parker in a twelve round light heavyweight bout

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Bowoutze A well known prominent contender. Parker, if I'm I

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was saying, Parker has been more of a super middleweight

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that's recently moved up in his last couple of fights

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to light heavyweight, you know, elaborate a little more on

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that right here.

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Speaker 2: Queensberry, which is doing this card, has been building up

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their light heavyweight stable the same way they've sort of

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been building up their heavyweight stable. So Queensberry, uh put

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the match together. And like you said about Parker, uh,

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these are not He's not the most known guy in

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the world. He's had a few fights. His last couple

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of fights have been at one sixty eightish, but he's

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also dabbled, you know a little bit over one sixty eight,

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but yeah, he's been This is going to be like

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his third fight as an actual light heavyweight, I guess

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because you go back he was like one seventy one,

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one seventy three, but now you know it's it's legit

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light heavyweight for him and Bilatsi.

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Speaker 1: All right, So again this is the main event in Manchester, England,

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and we know that Blatzi has been in and around

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the top of the light heavyweight division really for about

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the last three or four years, so he is favored.

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you think Parker is going to be in this twelve

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a as a as the Bridge

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would say. It's a good domestic dust up, you know

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what I mean. It's like and and both of them,

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whoever the winner is, has a chance to move on

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to fight for bigger stakes. That's what this is about.

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This is not a fight where there's a major world

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title at stake. It's a you know, a regional title

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type of situation. But it's a good all UK matchup. Certainly,

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knock on on Zach Parker. But Bootsi was the one

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that came into the pros with the big reputation out

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of the Olympics, the big reputation from his days as

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an amateur. He's nineteen and one with thirteen knockouts, which

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is a good record, But the other part of that

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read one of the cards in read back in February,

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he fought Callum Smith, another brit This was the undercard

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of When a Better in Bevil had their rematch, and

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it was an unbelievable fight, but it opened the show,

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so it kind of got lost in the shuffle, like

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it sort of hasn't. It didn't resonate, I don't think,

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at least with a lot of fans anyway, because it

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was like if you're watching that pay per view in

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America anyway, that fight was at like eleven o'clock in

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the morning in the Eastern time or whatever it was.

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But it was a fantastic fight. I mean, I'm not

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going to tell you it's the fight of the year,

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but Bazzi and Callum Smith could be on anybody's honorable

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mention list.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 2: And in the end Callum Smith, who was the underdog

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in that fight. You know, a lot of people thought

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had you know, was a little too old at this

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point for that type of fight. Anyway, they put on

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a great battle and Callum Smith got the close win

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and that was Boazzi's first loss. So he's looking to

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you know, get back in the groove. He's uh, you know,

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he's with Queensberry Parker. As you mentioned, he's had a

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lot of fights in his career have been at super middleweight,

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but now he's been, like I said, the last few

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fights in the light heavyweight division. He has also got

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only one loss. He's twenty six and one with eighteen knockouts.

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And these guys are both around the same age. You know, Uh,

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there's there's no real it's not like one what's an

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old shot guy or in ones the newcomer. You know,

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Bwatzi is thirty two and Parker's thirty one. So and

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from that standpoint, h and they have about the same

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you know, type of higher level fights off you all.

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Like the one fight that that he's known for in

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terms of Parker was probably the one loss that he suffered.

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stopped in the fourth round. Well that was an interim

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super mid aweight title bout, but it was. It was

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a knockout stopage, yes, But the really the reason the

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fight ended was because he suffered a pretty bad hand injury,

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broke his right hand and they ended and the fight

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was stopped. So that that that that should happens. I mean,

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so I don't really even hold that against him. He's

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won like five four fights in a row since then,

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and I have every expectation that this should be a

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high contact, pretty good, you know, crowd appealing fight. I

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don't know if it's going to be like an all

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out slugfest, but I can guarantee you it's not going

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to be a twelve round waltz where they don't do anything.

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the winner is going to put himself in a really

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great position to be right there in the thick of

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things to challenge for one of the belts.

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Speaker 1: And in Bilazzi's case, before the Callum Smith win and

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just looking at his record, he had a notable winner

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to Willie Hutchinson was a name. But when Dana Z's

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I remember we previewed that fight. He's won several interesting fights,

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but none of them are knockouts, is my point. Almost

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all of his fights have been I'm looking his last

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ko was Richard Rakapore, if that's how you say it

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right or not. Actually Richard's balin uh it was a

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b That's a twenty twenty one fight. So he hasn't

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really had a knockout at this level in a while.

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later rounds. If we were looking to handicap it, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: That's probably true. But the way you put it, though,

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he has he has more quality wins than than you

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know than then that he's gotten credit for, not just

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because he hasn't been like in the title fights, but

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he's got bigger wins I estimate than Parker does. Yes,

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Craig Richards was a good win for him. Craig Richards

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has fought for the title and been a good contender

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for a number of years. The AZ's win was a

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big win for him. Disease was undefeated at that time

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and was moving his way up the ranks and that

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was sort of a bigger deal in the UK. They

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were fighting for the British title, the Commonwealth title. The

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Hutchinson win was a good win. Also, that was on

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the big Wembley Stadium card back when Anthony Joshua got

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knocked out by Daniel Dubi. That was a pretty hyped

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up fight for there. And now he's taken on Callum Smith.

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So frankly, if Batzi had been a champion, let's say

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he might be defending against guys like Callen Smith or

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Willie Hutchinson or Dana Z's or Craig Richards, all of

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whom are in that conversation to either have fought for

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a title one a title or can still get to

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the point where they could fight for a title. So

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he's doing a good job in the way he's going

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about things, and certainly this is it's his event, if

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you will. He's the A side. But Parker, you know

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he's gonna have something to say about. He's got good,

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relatively speaking, pretty good punching power. He'd has eighteen KOs

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in the twenty six fights. The one time he fought

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when he stepped up against a bigger name and rider,

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you know, it was unfortunate, like I mentioned, the way

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it ended with the bus at hand for what it's

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worth he does have a ten round decision to win

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back in twenty twenty four against tyron zeg who was

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a former secondary title holder from Germany back a few

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a division where once you get below the better BV

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and Dimitri Bieble who's the unified champion, and obviously David

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Denavidez who was into that weight class, now there is

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some depth in the division and these are two of

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those guys that provide that depth, and they're fighting each

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other for what will be a good position for the winner.

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Speaker 1: All Right, that's Saturday afternoon obviously in the United States.

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Saturday Night in the UK Primetime from Manchester, England with

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that light heavyweight main event, and then matt Room Boxing

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and Dezone have the Saturday night show in Orlando, not

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far from where I host this here pod, where Lanier Perro,

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a Cuban you're gonna tell us more about him, will

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fight someone I wish I know a whole lot, if

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not anything about Jordan Thompson. That's the heavyweight main event,

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but also interesting O'mury Jones and the undercard. O Maury

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He's on the undercard as a junior middleweight, So get

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me more on this show in Orlando in the preview mode.

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Speaker 2: So this is I would look at this as like

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a more of a prospect oriented show. They do it

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of events in that carib Royale in Orlando, which is

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where this is taking place, and they are co promoters

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of Pero. Paro is a Cuban heavyweight southpaw. He's older

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like most Cuban heavyweights. It seems like when they finally

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get rolling as pros, he's already thirty two if you

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believe he's actually only thirty two. So he is undefeated

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and he's making his way up the ranks, and they've

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matched him up with Jordan Thompson. I know you say

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you don't know a lot about Jordan Thompson. Jordan Thompson's

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probably best known. First of all, he's moving up to heavyweight.

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entire career. But he is also coming off of a

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fourth round devastation knockout loss to ji Opataiah challenging for

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the IBF title back in September of last year. I'm sorry,

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of twenty twenty three. So we know how this is

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gonna go. I mean, let's just be honest. Do you

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have Jordan Thompson who was not that accomplished to begin with,

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a career long cruiserweight, who is now moving up to

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twenty September of twenty twenty three, So what twenty six

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months ago was his last fight and he got drilled

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in that fight, and now he's got the unenviable pask

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Speaker 2: Thirty Parrow is six foot four about two hundred and

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forty pounds pounds.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this has, like.

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Speaker 2: I said, TJ, we know how this is gonna go.

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Speaker 1: This has be in your seat early written all over it,

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or be in front of the in front of your

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phone or your screen early is what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Like this, if we were still doing our US show

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on a weekly basis, and we're handicapping this and they

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made the over under in this ten round fight would

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be somewhere around and a half or something like that,

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or whatever it would be. Maybe it was five and

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a half. Maybe I'm taking the under wherever the don't

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don't blink on this one. But the other the reason

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to me again, look, anytime you can see the development

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of a heavyweight who some people think might be going

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to the Promised Land, I'm not convinced yet. On para

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we'll see. Uh. It's always interesting to watch, and they've

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they've picked the right opponent for him. But I'm more

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interested to see the continuing development some of the younger

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guys on the show, like Omari Jones, who's from Orlando,

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who was the United States the only Olympic medalist in

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the previous Olympics in twenty twenty four. He's an outstanding prospect,

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a very nice young guy. Three and oho with three knockouts.

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Been fighting regularly at home. This will, well, I shouldn't

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say regularly, This will be a second of his four

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fights will be in the same venue. He did go

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on the road for two other fights on Matchroum cards,

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but anyway, he is he was only twenty two years old,

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and he's got a huge, bright future in front of him,

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be it as a jingor middleweight or as a welterweight.

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He sort of fights like not quite all the way

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at the up at fifty four, but he doesn't quite

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make four. There's no reason as he's trying to figure

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out where he fits physically in Ah, you know, he's

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in a sixth rounder. Absolutely a guy to keep an

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eye on. You know, the opponent.

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Speaker 1: I remember you interviewed him a pie. He was very

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well spoken. I was impressed with him, and I saw

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that opening fight and whatever, and who knows, who knows

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what this is ultimately going to be, but it's worth

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taking a peek a real prospect.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got the skills, he seems to have

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the right attitude, he's got the work ethic. By all accounts,

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he's got you know, good backing with with Matchroom. So

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they put him in with a fighter named Yusuf Metu

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who was twelve and two with nine knockouts, comes from

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the boxing hotbed of Tanzania in Africa, and uh, look

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they put him in the ring and uh, you know,

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let him get his experience. This is this is the

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early days of a guy that we could look back

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on a few years from now and say he is

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either the next top championship level guy or you know,

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on the rise as a good contender. You know, we'll

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see how far he can go. So that that's interesting

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to me. That's on this card. And then what BAT

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often does, because they obviously have a ton of British

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fighters in their stable of fighters, they're bringing over one

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of their British guys that they consider a top contender

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or cruiserweight named Pat Brown, who is four and oh

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with four knockouts. He was a twenty twenty four United

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British Olympian and he's twenty five years old. So he's

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sort of like their version of Amari Jones, even though

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he's a little bigger. I'm just saying, like the of

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the class of twenty twenty four Olympians, Pat Brown comes

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into the pros with a reputation as a guy that

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somebody should keep an eye on. And so he's coming

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here to the United States. He's got you know, this

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will be his fifth fight and it's gonna be his

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first time fighting outside of the UK as a professional.

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So that's always im Matcham does a good job with that.

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They like to get their young guys, especially because they

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do a certain level a certain number of American shows

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and as well as other places in the world. They

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kind of like to bring their guys at least early on,

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to give them that taste of what it might like,

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what it might be like to travel, you know, given

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the fact that down the road, if they're become the

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champion that they hope they do, that they could find

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themselves fighting in America or Australia or Mexico or wherever

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the case may be. And so they like to get

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them that experience. So for Pat Brown, this is that experience.

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And whereas Omari Jones has shown good power, but is

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I think more known as a boxer, Pat Brown is

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more known, I think is just a brute puncher, both

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entertaining guys to watch. If you've watched the Matchroom cards

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that feature the prospect, the next Gen, the preliminary show

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as they do, you know, Pat Brown is an appealing

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guy also. So for me, anyway, I know what's happening.

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I believe I know what's happening in the main event

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with Pero, We're gonna just go in there and absolutely

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obliterate his opponent in Thompson. So I'm intrigued, if you

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can call it that. Not so much because I feel

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like there's gonna be a huge competition in these prospect bouts,

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but I like to see the development of the young

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guys and how they look and that sort of thing.

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So that's why I thought we should talk about it

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a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And we just have again that's the Dezonne Saturday Night Show,

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US time from Orlando, Florida, from match Room that those

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flights get underway. So we do have a little bit,

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a little bit on the plate here, not a lot.

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All right, let's get to some news. And I saw

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this a couple of days ago and I went seriously

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and then my and when my man ray Field starts

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digging and writing it on the sub stack, I'm like, okay,

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there is some legitimacy to a possible Mayweather paqiow. Two.

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Now you said to me, because I pay attention to you,

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that there was talk that Pacquiao would be back in

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the ring somewhere around January something like that. They were

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talking to a couple of different fighters, including Tea Fimo Lopez.

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Speaker 2: All right, they were talking about Romero, Roly Romeiro.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry Roly Romero, who had beaten Ryan Garcia. That's right.

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So where did we suddenly switch not only tracks, but

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we may even have a completely different mode of transportation

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and we want to go to the Floyd Mayweather route

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in lightness?

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Speaker 2: Well, PBC and Pakya, who've been working together, uh, you

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know since he came back from his retirement, they were

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working together for several of the sites prior to his retirement.

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They were going forward and looking to try to make

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that fight and have them back. But obviously if the

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opportunity for him to fight Floyd comes up and there's

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a lot more money of course to fight a Mayweather rematch,

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then there would be to fight a Roly Romeo. Like

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they can put that on hold. There's no magic to

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the Roly Romero fight. But the reality is they are

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having those conversations. If it does get done, it would

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take place in April in Las Vegas. Our friends at

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the Ring Magazine reported that if it happens that one

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of the sites that I mean Las Vegas, you think

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about Team Mobile Arena, you think about the MGM, the

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Ring magazine reported that one of the places under consideration

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would be the Sphere, which is the place that is

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new that has a lot of concerts and this and

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that it owes a UFC event in a I forget

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when it was, but that's the only time they've been

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they've hosted a sports event to my knowledge, the first

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boxing event if it happened there. And you know, the

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cynic in me is like, what's the purpose? Why bother?

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They fought in twenty fifteen for the first time in

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what was the biggest fight of all time in terms

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of revenue and certainly among the greatest hyped up fights

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in the history of the sport, and was too late

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and it's stunk out.

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Speaker 1: It was a dud. And you were there and you've

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you've talked about it, and now now we're on eleven

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years later. Paki, how would be at that time, I'll

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joke fifty seven or fifty eight? No, well he would

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be what forty five, forty six? What is what is Mayweather?

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Mayweather's in his forties, Rayfield, do you want me to

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say it? What are we doing here? This is just

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a money grab, that's what this is.

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Speaker 2: Just for the record. Floyd is now currently forty eight

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years old. He's forty eight and Pakia was forty six

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years old.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing here? So, as I said, I

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was getting getting the cash, grab the bag.

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Speaker 2: As I've said many times, the first fight when they

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fought in twenty fifteen, was the single most miserable experience

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of my professional career, and I would dare say if

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you spoke to other members of the media covered that event,

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they would probably agree it was absolutely horrible. And then

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you can live with that at the fight as a classic,

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but then the fight sucked awesome. If there is any

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saving grace to this nonsense whatsoever, is that if it

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does happen, it won't cost anybody the one hundred dollars

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price tag that they charge of that shit pay per view.

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Back in twenty fifteen, where after the fight was over,

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a lot of people tried to sue and claim draw

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because many city went into the fight with a bad

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shoulder and ended up having surgery. They felt like that

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was fraud. Nonetheless, if it does happen again, it would

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be on Netflix, who clearly understand their market. They want

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to do big events, so called big events, That's why

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they put up the bag for Canelo and Crawford. That's

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why they did the same thing. For example, Mike Tyson

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against J.

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Speaker 1: Paul.

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Speaker 2: They're doing the same thing for Tank Davis against J.

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Speaker 1: Paul.

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Speaker 2: You know Crawford Canelo obviously that was a real boxing event.

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We get him in boxers. They put up good money

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when they did the all women's card with Serrano and

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Taylor for their third fight. That was real boxing. You know,

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all the highest level women you could think of on

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that show, you know, barring a couple of that that

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did not appear on the show. So I'm extremely cynical

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about the prospect of Mayweather pack app And you might

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ask yourself, TJ, how could they possibly be doing Mayweather

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pacat when didn't I just read and Dan Rayfield a

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substack and plenty of other places in the media. The

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announcement that came about a month ago that Floyd Mayweather

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had signed to do an exhibition match against Mike Tyson

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in the spring of next year. Also and.

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Speaker 1: Dan had Floyd Mayweather signed to do an exhibition with

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Mike Tyson in the spring with another promotion he had.

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Speaker 2: So I touched base with the people that are involved

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with that event, and they are very tight lipped, and

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there they claim there's a signed contract for that. Now

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what those terms are in that contract or whatever?

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It feels like there's two things going on at the

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same time, and we'll see how that plays out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's cut to the chase on the Rayfield meter

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with Tan being it absolutely happens one, it never happens.

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The number right now in October that a Mayweather Pacquiao

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rematch has on your meter is what I would say.

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Speaker 2: It's like a seven, really like a really good chance.

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Speaker 1: Well you were talking, I thought you'd go like five,

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and you were think seven. They're down the road a

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little bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, definitely down the road. I mean. And listen, Manny Pacio,

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who was his people were involved with the card that

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took place earlier this week in Manila. They dubbed it

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the Thriller in Manila two. They had it at the

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same venue, the Aronetta Coliseum, Azon City, right outside of Manila,

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and they put on the WBC strawweight title fight with

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Melvin Jerusalem who headlined against the South African Mandatory Cusack.

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He actually won a decision in that fight. I watched it.

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It was available for free on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: And all.

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Speaker 2: But he was out there, you know, helping promote that show,

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and he made some comments about you know, when asked

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about that during you know, as well as his own

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event he was doing, and he was talking about the

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Mayweather rematch, saying that the negotiations are ongoing, he's talking

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to his team about it on a daily basis and

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if that, if that materializes, you know, we're going to

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announce the fight and we're going to do that matchup.

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He says he's interested in the fight. He's never shied

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away from that.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: He even said if you remember when he was standing

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into the ring or not in the ring, but during

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the build up or maybe a care of was before

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or after when he was fighting Mario Barrios in July,

474
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,519
you know, he was asked about it. He was saying,

475
00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:27,480
I wish Boyd Mayweather would come out of retirement and

476
00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:30,440
give me a rematch. You know. He once again brought

477
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,759
up the shoulder problem when he was doing the interviews

478
00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:35,039
when he was in Manila for this card that I

479
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,640
just mentioned. He believes the world will be excited for

480
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,880
the rematch. I think they would watch. But I can't

481
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,400
say there's this because I mean I did a Twitter

482
00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:45,720
poll and it's not scientific by so I just put

483
00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:48,599
up I said, are you know are you interested in

484
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,680
the Mayweather Pack rematch. One possible answer was yes, one

485
00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:55,759
was no, and then a third was I'd rather self immilate,

486
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,440
which you set yourself on fire, which is what I

487
00:22:58,519 --> 00:22:59,519
have said, I'd rather do it.

488
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: I didn't see this poll. How did I miss out

489
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,400
so that I could perhaps hit option three and self immulate?

490
00:23:05,839 --> 00:23:08,559
Speaker 2: Well, the the the end results of that poll that

491
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,319
I think was up there for ten or twelve hours

492
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,279
or something like that, had like three thousand votes or

493
00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:16,880
something like that, and it was between the no and

494
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,000
self immalate took about eighty five percent percent of it

495
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,039
and there was only you know, ten or twelve or

496
00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:24,359
thirteen or fourteen percent that were interested in their re

497
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,880
ass That doesn't mean they wouldn't watch it because if

498
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,440
it has if it does happen, it's going to be

499
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,559
on Netflix, so it won't cost you under additional funds

500
00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:35,880
in terms of a pay per view. It's if it

501
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,079
does happen, it's supposed to be a real fight. We'll see.

502
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,160
I mean, what that tells me is that Floyd Mayweather,

503
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,000
who made more money than anybody in the history of

504
00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:46,440
boxing needs money because there's no other reason why you

505
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,160
wouldn't think about it.

506
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,799
Speaker 1: Which would be crazy, right. Well, that or he just

507
00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:54,319
we've talked about this before. He can't stay out of

508
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,079
the limelight. It's it's an attention thing. It's a it's

509
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,839
almost an addiction thing of I've got to be talked about.

510
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,440
I've got to be back in the ring, i gotta

511
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,000
be whatever. Maybe that's part of it.

512
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's got to be partly financially motivated. There's

513
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,279
no doubt in mine.

514
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: If it is. If he's burned through all of that money,

515
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,920
and we all know seven eight years after he made

516
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,119
it all, you got to be kidding it.

517
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,079
Speaker 2: We all know Pakio has always been looking for for

518
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:17,519
big paydays and big, big money because the difference between

519
00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:20,799
Paco and Floyd is that if Manny blew his money, yeah,

520
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,240
somebody did stupid ship with but many also gave a

521
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,319
lot of money away because man, he's just a good,

522
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,599
humble guy. He you know, stood outside of his compound

523
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,000
in the Philippines and literally handed out money to poor people.

524
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,160
I mean, and he stood. But he bought like a

525
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,079
fleet of boats for fishermen. Floyd Mayweather is running around

526
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,640
to like Egypt to see the pyramids, and to China

527
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,079
to see the Great Wall, and to go to the

528
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,519
Caribbean island do that, and go to Paris do that.

529
00:24:43,759 --> 00:24:45,839
And he's in there buying is you know, fancy uh

530
00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:48,640
fancy clothes and and whatever.

531
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: And then he's showing tickets of how he bet on

532
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,160
the NBA finals.

533
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: Also the general gambler.

534
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,559
Speaker 1: Won seven figures on a on a on an Oklahoma

535
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,480
City thunder bet. I know we get it, all right,

536
00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:00,519
So you pegged at it about a seven if could happen,

537
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,759
keep us posted on the Raypiel sub stack on Mayweather

538
00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:08,200
paqiao two. Let's see doing here. I already said it

539
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,200
all right. Let's talk about some other realities here. So

540
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,480
top rank and matchroom they are talking. It's not done correct,

541
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,440
but they're looking for Emmanuel Navarate, who I enjoy, and

542
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,319
Sugar Nunez maybe for early next year. Can we have

543
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:26,279
good things here?

544
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: I think we got a good chance of having good things.

545
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:33,160
That's a really good fight. That's two explosive punchers, two

546
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,599
Mexican warriors, two guys that are interested to fight each other.

547
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,000
Unification fight. Look remember you go back. In his last

548
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:45,720
fight in September, Sugar Nunias was defending you know, remember

549
00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:47,440
he had well earlier, he had gone to Japan, he

550
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,160
won the vacant IBF title. He was making a homecoming

551
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,279
fight in Los Mochis, Mexico that took place in September,

552
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:55,680
and he scored a decision to win in a really good,

553
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:59,680
exciting rumble against the Puerto Rican Christopher Diez. He knocked

554
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,000
him down two times, but he also had to survive

555
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,200
some very hard moments. He ends up winning the decision

556
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,599
and sitting at ringside watching the fight was Emmanuel Naverette.

557
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,839
So during the post fight interview, they talked about the

558
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,079
fight with him, and then Eddie Hearn, who was the promoter,

559
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,240
brought Navarette into the ring and they talked to each

560
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:18,920
other about wanting to fight each other, showing a lot

561
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,680
of respect for each other, and Eddie saying would love

562
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,440
to make this Mexican war, and had them post for photos,

563
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,920
and you know, I didn't know if there anything would

564
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,400
come of that. The main thing was that Navarette had

565
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,920
been ordered to do a rematch with Charlie Suarez. Remember

566
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,920
if you go back earlier, they had that very controversial

567
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:39,160
fight where it was ruled an eight round technical decision

568
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,160
win for Navarette because of a head butt that opened

569
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,160
a cut, and they went through this whole process where

570
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,240
they ended up. Charlie Swarz's team appealed it. They found

571
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,880
video evidence that it was caused by a punch, not

572
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,559
a head butt, a video that they did not have

573
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,440
available to them in the timeframe at ringside from the

574
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:58,599
replay official and then the end result was it the

575
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,920
California Commission overturned the result and turned it from a

576
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,720
victory for never at A into a no contest. As

577
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:07,680
soon as it became a no contest, the WBO then

578
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:10,759
put out its official order to sell tell them they

579
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,079
had to do a mandatory rematch. So that was a

580
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,000
fight that they were trying to map. They're trying to do.

581
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,400
Top Rank is the promoter for both never At the

582
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,279
Ansuarez and so currently the IBF or not the IBF.

583
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,440
The WBO convention has been taking place this week in Bogota, Columbia.

584
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,559
It ends on Friday, but on Thursday they were doing

585
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,519
rankings things and all that business. And so Carl Moretti,

586
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:33,720
who was the vice president of Top Rank, has been

587
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,480
in Bogata at the convention and they got the the

588
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:40,640
IBF situation for nun Yes, he's free and clear to

589
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,880
do an optional defense even if he wanted to do

590
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,960
a mandatory and the optional was due. As long as

591
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,319
you go ask the IBF about it before they call

592
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,519
the mandatory, they'll sign off on. It's in their rules,

593
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:52,400
so their issue is no problem. But the WBO has

594
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:55,839
ordered this fight between never At the Ensuarez already, so

595
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,839
they had to go to get permission from the WBO

596
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,920
to do the match so they could have it as

597
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:01,799
the unification. And so what I was told is that

598
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,880
during this rankings which is open to the promoters and

599
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,079
everybody that's there, the WBO agreed and said, you know what,

600
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:11,400
as long as you take care of Charlie Suarez and

601
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,400
make a deal where he accepts whatever his step aside

602
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,200
would be, he'll get paid or you know, have some

603
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,400
considerations and you can work it out within fifteen days

604
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:22,880
you have approval. So they're on the clock top ranks

605
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,039
two weeks to work things out with Charlie Suarez and

606
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,599
to and to finalize whatever their deals are with Mattroom.

607
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,160
And if that's the case, then the fight would happen,

608
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,039
and as they said at the convention, the timeframe would

609
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:38,559
be probably in the very early part of next year.

610
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,359
Been some conversation about January, but you know, could be February.

611
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,559
But the point is it will certainly be, as it

612
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,759
was said to me by Carl, in the first quarter

613
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,079
of next year. And Sugara is really good fight. Sugar

614
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,559
nunia Is is young and can fight. And Nevarante's never

615
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:53,519
in a boring fight. I'm sorry, I mean he's gonna

616
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:56,920
it's an He's an action fighter, output punches drama. He's

617
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,880
been in fights where he's been knocked down before and

618
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,119
had to come back. So sign if this is what happens.

619
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,880
Sugar nunga Is is twenty eight years old, he's thirty

620
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,599
and one with twenty eight knockouts. And Emanuel Navarrete is

621
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,519
thirty nine and two with a draw and he's thirty

622
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,880
years old. He's won titles in three divisions. And they

623
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,119
are both, like you said, very good punchers, very exciting fighters.

624
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,119
That would be tremendous, you know, if there's one silver lining,

625
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:24,440
if you will, in the fact the top rank does

626
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:29,039
not have currently a broadcast deal. They're out there making

627
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:31,160
fights with everybody right now to keep their guys busy,

628
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,000
and they're guys and gals busy. They did the deal

629
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,480
with I the Tiger for Mikhala to go to Canada

630
00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:38,440
fight Mary Spencer. They're trying to make this fight with Mattrim.

631
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,000
They have the fights they just did with the Saudi's

632
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,039
where you've got a Queensberry fighter in Sam Noakes fighting

633
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:47,680
the top rank fighter in Abdullah Mason. You've got Brian

634
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,480
Norman fighting the free agent Devin Haney. You know, they're

635
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:54,480
they're doing all those types of fights they're doing.

636
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:59,519
Speaker 1: They're doing that's coming in Mexico right with Zandfer Promotions

637
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,319
right now.

638
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: But that's not so much that matchup that's there. But

639
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,440
I'm just thinking, like they're fighters who are now fighting

640
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:09,160
boxers from other promotional companies, which if they had a

641
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:11,359
robust deal, they wouldn't be in such a hurt at

642
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:14,559
send them into the other promoter card.

643
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,519
Speaker 1: All right, So this is gonna come together very quickly. Yeah,

644
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:21,519
and pay attention because there is a there is a

645
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:24,039
time limit here that the WBO is giving. I still.

646
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,240
I mean, at this point, if you're navoraate, you might

647
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,960
relinquish the WBO belt. Go fight this fight and then

648
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,799
if you want to fight Suarez later for the vacant

649
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:33,240
belt or whatever they call it, you could do that.

650
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:36,559
Listen to me making sick, but there's good money. Yes,

651
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:38,400
look interest in this fight.

652
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: He already tried to win the title at thirty five

653
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,839
and it didn't work out for him, so he might

654
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,319
as well make the most of it at one thirty.

655
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:47,480
And these guys, even though they've been winning obviously, uh,

656
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,599
they're both very vulnerable, so you might as well go

657
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,720
make the biggest fight you can.

658
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,079
Speaker 1: And he was. He was very good at junior featherweight

659
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,440
and featherweight. This is me saying this about navarat and

660
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,920
he looked overweight and slow as a lightweight. So you're right,

661
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,200
you gotta you gotta be in the wheelhouse here as

662
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,279
far as I'm concerned at one thirty. And let's see

663
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:09,000
what Navaratee and Nunez might do if they get it signed. Now,

664
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:12,440
a fight that is signed. What I've been wondering he's

665
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,640
been like on the on the proverbial milk cart. And

666
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,960
where has Bakram Martazelaya been since I saw him klobber

667
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,880
tim Zu. Not this past October, but last October and

668
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:25,160
now we have an update and we have a fight

669
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:27,839
signed for him. Give him it's not on the deats,

670
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:28,799
give him the beats.

671
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: Should I give him the tea?

672
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Give him the tea? Yes, Bill the tea.

673
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,039
Speaker 2: Uh, it's not signed yet, but it's going to get signed.

674
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:40,559
So Martazalev had been ordered to fight Ericson Lubin in

675
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,640
a mandatory fight, and right before the pursbit was supposed

676
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,000
to take place, going back, you know a month or

677
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,960
two ago, Lubin uh withdrew from that pers bid because

678
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,119
he got the big offer to fight Virgil Ortiz Jinger

679
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:54,000
and they took that. So once he moved on to

680
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:56,160
do the Virgial Artis fight, which is a very exciting

681
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,720
fight that's coming up on November eighth, that left Bertazalev

682
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:03,519
to then fight the next mandatory down. As the IBF

683
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,559
goes down their rankings, the next guy available was Josh Kelly,

684
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:10,519
who was the twenty sixteen British Olympian. He's seventeen and

685
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000
one with one draw in nine knockouts, and martaz Leev

686
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:15,519
has a more glittering record at twenty three and oh

687
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:18,599
with seventeen including as you mentioned, the devastation against Tim

688
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,319
Zuo in his first defense where he bounced them off

689
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:23,440
the canvas like a basketball and knock him out in

690
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,759
the fourth round. Yep, I mean that was a very

691
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,599
very very devastating third round knockout. I should say, very

692
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,839
devastating destruction in any event. So the Kelly side and

693
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,640
the martaz Laev side were negotiating and they were supposed

694
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,279
to be a per bed last week. They asked for

695
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:40,799
a one week delay. Typically when they asked for delay,

696
00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:43,039
it means they're getting close. That turned out to be

697
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:45,640
the case. The purspit was supposed to be this past Tuesday,

698
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:50,839
and on Monday night, Martazeleev's promoter, which is Main Events,

699
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,559
made a deal with Eddie Hearn, who was representing Josh Kelly,

700
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:56,039
who had been for a long time with Wasser and Boxing,

701
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:58,400
but apparently that is no longer the case. He's back

702
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,200
with Eddie and so they were able to make a

703
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:05,519
deal and they told the IBF jointly that we've made

704
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,519
a deal, will you can you cancel the purse bit

705
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:09,799
they did that. They now have fifteen days from that

706
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,480
time to get the contract signed and back to the IBF.

707
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:16,720
But they're professional promoters, they'll get that done and this

708
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:18,599
fight will take place. I was told it will take

709
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:22,039
place likely January thirty first in the UK. Also a

710
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,640
possibility could be January twenty fourth. I think that is

711
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,319
a better of what the venue situation is. But according

712
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,559
to what I was told, the agreement that the two

713
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,319
sides struck and the obviously had to get it signed

714
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:35,359
off on by the IBF, which which allowed it has

715
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,240
to take place on or before January thirty first, So

716
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,880
your man Bakram will be back in the ring on

717
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,799
or before January thirty first against Josh Kelly, a guy

718
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,480
that a lot of people have hyped up and has

719
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:50,079
had a lot of expectations and a huge amount of potential.

720
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,759
Been a little disappointing, if you want to know the truth,

721
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,039
But this is a great opportunity for him and obviously

722
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,319
for Martazle have to get back in there with a

723
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,920
reputable opponent and an Olympian and to do his thing

724
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,160
and you know, try to keep that undefeated record, and

725
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,440
a huge opportunity for Kelly, who's going to probably have

726
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:08,679
the home field advantage by fighting in England and perhaps

727
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,559
even in his hometown.

728
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: I'll just say I'll just say this as we move on.

729
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,119
Martaz Alive was a hot name after that ko and

730
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,920
he's out of sight, out of mind now a year later. Uh.

731
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:20,880
This is one of the problems with the sport. The

732
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,679
guys that you might be interested in seeing just go away.

733
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,440
They stay away for various reasons. And okay, well we'll

734
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,920
see what he looks like when this fight happened.

735
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: His reasons, by the way, or certainly not because of him.

736
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,400
It's because Main Events, which is a historic promoter and

737
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,639
has had huge success and massive events. They are like

738
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,280
a lot of American promoters in particular, who don't have

739
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,159
the broadcaster, who don't have the financial backing to make

740
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,400
these events happen, so they have to get creative. And

741
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,760
so this was I'm sure that was part of when

742
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,639
they were doing the agreement with Metstrum, which means that

743
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,760
this will not be on a Main Events card. It'll

744
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920
be on a on a card debt Matchum puts on,

745
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,880
which means, at least from the state point of the viewers,

746
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:02,320
he'll get to watch it on his own.

747
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: Okay, you did talk and we were discussing this, but

748
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:08,199
you did talk about how they were finalizing the undercard

749
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,119
for the December sixth show, including the co feature with Janebec,

750
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,480
Alim Canoolly and Areas Landy Laura and also Oshaki Foster

751
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,960
and Steven Fulton in a title fight as well. That's

752
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:24,079
now been announced. So one more time for our audience here,

753
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:27,119
because sometimes it's a different audience. They officially announced this

754
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:28,000
for December.

755
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,159
Speaker 2: Sixth, So the news were The element of this is

756
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:32,440
that for a while it was I mean, we all

757
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:34,480
know about Pitt Bull and Lamont Roach is the main

758
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,679
event on December sixth and San Antonio of this PBC

759
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,199
on Prime pay per View, Janebec and Laura I've reported

760
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,639
on quite a bit, and that even though it wasn't announced,

761
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,159
that was happening in a done deal. And then they

762
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:49,719
had the other fights that were when the October twenty

763
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,159
fifth event that was supposed to be headlined by Sebastian

764
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,119
Fundor against Keith Thurman was postponed because of Fundora's injury,

765
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,079
you had the rest of the fights on that show,

766
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,719
and I was told at the time that fights like

767
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,639
Hayesus Ramos against Shane Moseley Junior would move to this

768
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,320
December sixth card, as well as the Lucero ert Roberto

769
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,840
Valezuela card that was the original pay per view opener,

770
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:13,000
as well as other fights that were on the preliminary stream,

771
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,039
you know, if Frank Martin and Rancis Bartheloni with Martin

772
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,880
coming back after the long layoff and others. So all

773
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,079
of those fights indeed are moving to this card as

774
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,639
an undercard. The Lucero fight that was supposed to open

775
00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:26,119
the pay per view on October twenty fifth will instead

776
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:29,360
now be on the preliminary card on December sixth, because

777
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,039
they also were able to move the Foster Fulton fight

778
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:36,119
now that was originally the co feature October twenty fifth,

779
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,639
but to put that on the same card and also

780
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,920
have the janebec and Laara fight and the main event

781
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,440
and the mos Ramos, You're running into budget issues, of course,

782
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,960
because unlike Turkey is able to do and just spend

783
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:52,480
whatever he wants, PBC and other promoters are locked in

784
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:55,320
more to a legitimate budget. So there was a lot

785
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,039
of questions of whether that could happen. It was a

786
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,320
matter of does Foster still want to do it. He

787
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,800
had the option to walk away. How can they make

788
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:04,599
you know, you're trying to get you know, ten pounds

789
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:06,760
of shit into a five pound bag. When you're dealing

790
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,559
with budgets, it doesn't work like that all the time.

791
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,320
So in the end result was and they're not going

792
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,840
to go out there and advertise this, but this is

793
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,519
what I was told. I actually think this is a

794
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,599
positive thing, not a negative thing. Stephen Fulton really wanted

795
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:21,840
this fight. He's the reigning WBC featherweight champion. He's won

796
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,840
a world title also at one hundred and twenty two pounds.

797
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:27,239
Now he's moving up to challenge this for the title

798
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,920
at one hundred and thirty against Foster. He was willing

799
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,360
to make some concessions financially to make this fight happen.

800
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:35,599
In the business, we call it taking a haircut. Well,

801
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,079
he's got he's taking a haircut to make this fight happen.

802
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:40,719
And I'm sure PBC, based on their track record, whatever

803
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,719
the money he gave up'll he'll get taken care of

804
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:45,960
after this in the next fight, whether it's a win

805
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:48,199
or a loss. But nonetheless, to make it fit on

806
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,400
this event, he did that, and so therefore he's not

807
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,320
even that he's being a fight that was the co

808
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,519
feature when it was Fundora Thurman is now the third fight,

809
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,320
because the main event is the main event, and the

810
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,760
unification is the co feature, and this will slot in

811
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,400
as the second fight of the pay per view, and

812
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:08,800
then Ramos and Mosley will open the pay per view. So,

813
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,519
if you ask me, this is probably the deepest pay

814
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:14,719
per view that PBC's put on in a while. And

815
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,719
I've said many times they put on really good shows

816
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,440
when they do their pay per views. I know people

817
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,119
don't love the price.

818
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: They're they're making the best of this situation, and it's

819
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,000
a good show. Good on Fulton because he realizes it's

820
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:28,880
better to make some or most of what you were

821
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,719
going to make as opposed to making zero zeil.

822
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: And by the way, in a fight where here where

823
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,760
both guys have a good chance to win the fight.

824
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,119
Speaker 1: And he knows full well that if he wins and

825
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,039
he's in a title position, he's gonna make a lot

826
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,320
more on the next one. Go around. Bet on yourself.

827
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,639
Speaker 2: But the other thing about yourself. If you ever talked

828
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:50,079
to Fulton, and I have an interview that's still sitting

829
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,920
around that I wasn't we were not able to do this.

830
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:54,599
Pebe will read, well, we'll we'll get it back together.

831
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,079
Whatever before the fight was postponed when the Sebastian Vundora

832
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,679
Thurman thing came down well, and we talked about this

833
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,239
little bit. Maybe we can pull out a sound bite

834
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,000
and use it at some point. Fulton is a guy

835
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,400
that wants to fight. As the kids say, I think

836
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,280
they he wants all the smoke. I mean when nobody

837
00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:13,559
he was well paid. Don't get me wrong, but there

838
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:15,199
was not a lot of people that were raising their

839
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,559
hand to put their titles at stake to go to.

840
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:22,199
Speaker 1: Japan American to go fight the monster. So he did.

841
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: He raised his hand and he gave him the shot

842
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,840
at those titles. That didn't work out for me. He

843
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,760
got stopped. But that's how shit goes. And so you

844
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,639
know the fact that he would be willing to go

845
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,079
fight O'shaki Foster in Texas, which is Oshaki Foster's state.

846
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,760
O'SHACKI is from the Houston area. This fight is taking

847
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,760
place in San Antonio. The fact that he would even

848
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,119
be willing to take a little bit less money than

849
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:44,519
originally agreed to to make it happen. You know, you

850
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:46,559
got to tip your hat to Stephen the Fulton uh.

851
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,920
And it just adds another really good fight too has

852
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,280
already been a deep cart and when you're getting fights

853
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,119
like Frank Martin, Rancis, Bartelom and Lucero and Vealezuela as

854
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,639
free preliminaries like it just shows you the depth.

855
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: So good.

856
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: There's two great show was left this year. There's this

857
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,239
show on December sixth, and there's the Turkey's pay per view,

858
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,599
one of the Ring Magazine cards of course November twenty second,

859
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:10,199
which I'm sure we'll discuss a lot at the time

860
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,440
that comes up. That's the Loaded show with Benavitas and

861
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:18,159
Yard and Norman against Devin Haney and Abdullah Mason against

862
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:20,559
Sam Noaks and my favorite fight on that show, which

863
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,800
is the Bam Rodriguez unification with Puma Martinez. So he

864
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,199
got two really good deep pay per views coming up.

865
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,679
Speaker 1: One more note, and unfortunately for Floyd Schofield, who I

866
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,000
was in the house when I saw him absolutely demolish

867
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,920
Tevin Farmer inside of two minutes in Anaheim, California in June.

868
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,920
He was slated to be part of the card next

869
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,159
weekend for Virgil Ortiz and Ericson Lubin. However, he is

870
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,360
now not part of the card. Give give him the

871
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,679
update here on what happened.

872
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate. Golden Boy announced that he had suffered

873
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,679
a wrist injury, including ligament damage, and was forced to

874
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,480
withdraw from that fight. He was supposed to fight Jojo

875
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:03,159
Diaz in a ten rounder and in a lightweight fight.

876
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,679
I thought that that, I mean, this is nothing about

877
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,679
Floyd being negative, but I felt like that match was

878
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:11,519
absolutely garbage to begin with, because Joseph Diaz is a

879
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:13,880
long faded guy who was like two and six in

880
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,199
his last fight, you know, you know, Yeah, he put

881
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,400
on a tremendous fight against the Regius program and I

882
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,880
was a prograde again his last fight, really great battle,

883
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,039
but he's still lost. Like, I just felt like that

884
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:28,440
was a complete mismatch. That Schofield was way too talented

885
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,559
and young and fresh and could do everything compared to

886
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:33,480
Jojo Diaz. But you still never like to see a

887
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:36,440
guy lose out because of an injury. So it's unfortunate.

888
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:38,159
And Scofield, I know he's been taking a little bit

889
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:39,599
of grief because of course he pulled out of the

890
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:42,679
fight in Saudi Arabia because of what he said was

891
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:44,719
illness to weak him a fight. So he's now pulled

892
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,960
out of another fight. But listen, the guy got hurt.

893
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,719
They called it a grade to the way that Golden

894
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,159
Boy announced it was a Grade two sprain of his

895
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,440
right wrist, including minor ligament damage. So obviously he's not

896
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,760
gonna be able to fight the fight, and so what

897
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,119
he's gonna do. You pull out of the fight and

898
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,559
you live to fight another day. So that's I'm sure

899
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:03,280
when he's better and healed up, he'll be back back

900
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,280
in action. The only negative of that is it doesn't

901
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,239
seem as though there's a bona fide fight to move

902
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,719
into the co future position on the card that has

903
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,280
obviously got a very good main event with Virgil Ortiz

904
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:17,480
against eric Sson Lubin. I have not heard anything from

905
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:20,119
Golden Boy about them switching anything up other than keeping

906
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:22,639
the card intact as it is, so that's a disappointment.

907
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:25,599
But hopefully Scofield heals up and we'll see him again.

908
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, that is for next weekend. All right, we

909
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,000
did well there with the news again. Go to our

910
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:35,639
Big Fight Weekend YouTube page because we've got some video nostalgia,

911
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,000
including the night we are doing this is now, My goodness,

912
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:43,320
the fifty first anniversary of the Rumble in the Jungle

913
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,760
George Foreman, Muhammad Ali. We tee it up to go

914
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,199
watch the YouTube video where you and I discussed this

915
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,039
and all the implications the greatest fighting in the Rumble

916
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:55,159
in the Jungle, and we and we became familiar with

917
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,639
the term forget the tea, became familiar with ropa dope.

918
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,800
We figured out what the real was that night from Honi.

919
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 2: I have said for a long time, and I've thought

920
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,719
about this, the Rumble in the Jungle is to me

921
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,960
the most singular, most famous boxing match in the history

922
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,360
of the sport.

923
00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: And you say it on the video and you explain why,

924
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,400
and that's some excellent tease for them. To go watch

925
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,719
the video. Go find it on the Big Fight Weekend

926
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,239
YouTube page. We also put the video up from the

927
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,039
Holy Field Destruction of Buster Douglas, the thirty fifth anniversary

928
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:29,400
of that from nineteen ninety is also up on the

929
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,360
YouTube page. And we're going to have some coming other content,

930
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,199
longer form content, live stuff, etc. Go watch the interview

931
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,920
with Mark Kriegel, the long form interview about his Mike

932
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,920
Tyson book, and Mark obviously covered for Netflix the Canelo

933
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,679
Crawford fight as part of the studio show. For that,

934
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,559
go watch that video on the YouTube page. We push

935
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:52,559
you there on the YouTube platform to see us as

936
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,159
well as hear us. Other than that, we are ready

937
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:58,159
for the weekend with these two different shows in Manchester, England,

938
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:01,280
the Biwazzie main events in the after noon Saturday on

939
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,400
his own and then Saturday night is Lanier Perro, the

940
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,679
Cuban born heavyweight in the main event for the Mattriom

941
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,800
show in Orlando, Florida, and a couple of other interesting

942
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,360
fights on that card. Why don't we come back off

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the weekend recap that and recap the Spencer Mayor Women's

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Junior Middleweight world title fight as well. It's happening in

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Montreal Thursday night. We'll recap all of that on the weekend.

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Sound good, sounds a good plan. There is a big

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Dan rayhaiel, I'm merely TJ. Reeves. Thank you for finding

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us as we preview going into the weekend on the

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Big Fight Weekend preview pot