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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, dear listener, and thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Stephen and this is a podcast all about

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<v Speaker 2>the weird and wonderful world of the dark comedy anthology

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<v Speaker 2>series Inside number nine.

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<v Speaker 1>On each episode, we'll be diving into another one of

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Pemberton and Reese Shearsmith's twisted tales, putting it under

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<v Speaker 1>a lens and examining it within an inch of its life.

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<v Speaker 2>So make yourself comfortable, grab a cup of tea and

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<v Speaker 2>join us for the ninth degree. Hello, Hello, hello, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been what you've been up to?

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<v Speaker 1>Not much really? Day of recording is my parents move day,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought would never come.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh is that today?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's finally here.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it's going okay for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems to be stressful, but yeah, but they did get

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<v Speaker 1>a team of professionals into to move them, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>good and gently exactly squeeze me tightly whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, currently missing the school holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>I am to be honest, but it's it swings aroundabouts

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<v Speaker 1>because my job now is much less kind of draining

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<v Speaker 1>for me because now working from home, which I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>able to do before obviously, Yeah, it's such a different

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dynamic, and for me, I get very stressed

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<v Speaker 1>sort of having to be around people a lot. It

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<v Speaker 1>drains me a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So training the club yeah yeah, so being able.

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<v Speaker 1>To be at home, it's like, you know, I might

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<v Speaker 1>be actually working more, but it's better over all, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, Anything interesting to share from your end, No, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think so. No, a fun projector night at a

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<v Speaker 2>film night in the garden at the weekend, which was nice, lovely,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Terassic Park.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good, sounds good. It's when your neighbors start thinking

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<v Speaker 1>there are dinosaurs in the garden.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're having a fighting match between because it was

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<v Speaker 2>really quiet for all the speaking bits and loud for

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<v Speaker 2>all the dinosaur actionally bit. Yeah, and like there was

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<v Speaker 2>some owl in a tree nearby that was overtaking in me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in the quiet bits at the beginning, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be dinosaurs and owls are ruling this situation

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we tell listeners where our hair was last week?

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<v Speaker 2>It was Devil Christmas? But what I think is really

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<v Speaker 2>clever is that it's Steve that is the Devil of Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>Masterfully done. The Devil of Christ Massive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that well loved episode The Devil of Christ Mass.

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<v Speaker 1>Very well done, thank you, masterfully done. In fact, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Tricky one because I got to talk about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, to make this work. I've got to sell

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<v Speaker 2>this twist is better than I think it is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh no, we've got to pivot the twist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, I listen that for another one this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, our last one of this series.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, will say do you get quite a few messages

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<v Speaker 1>lately from listeners about the hairs and sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, for the life of me find that one

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode. Someone said they listened to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes three times to try and find the hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. Yeah, I'm g lovely for playing along. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It is good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, putting all this thought into what they do and

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<v Speaker 2>no one actually gets awesome. This week we are back

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<v Speaker 2>with Series six, Episode six, Last Night of the Proms

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<v Speaker 2>Dawn and Mick. It's a long one. Dawn and Mick

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<v Speaker 2>are hosting the annual Last Night at the Proms party

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<v Speaker 2>as the perfect antidote to post Brexit Britain, with everyone

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<v Speaker 2>expected to waive their union jack's and sing along to

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<v Speaker 2>Land of Hope and Glory. We'll get back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But Down's sister Penny has seen a mysterious stranger lurking

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<v Speaker 2>around the neighborhood, and her husband Brian isn't feeling particularly patriotic,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the time the Fat Lady sings, everyone's lives

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<v Speaker 2>will be changed forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, m.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting one this week. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't quite know what I think about it. Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very intrigued to see what I'm going to rate

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<v Speaker 2>this at the end of this log.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean, I think it's good and having watched

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those ones, like you know, having watched

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<v Speaker 1>it twice as we do to prepare on the second

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<v Speaker 1>run through, after having seen all the details, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>there's more bits to it than you sort of realized. Initially.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, Yeah, it's a very confusing episode. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot going on that doesn't seem to make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It requires a quite a bit of homework, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards to sort of, yea, understand what the hell was happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a bit of a vibe of they decided

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<v Speaker 2>on the concept and then they improved it, like it

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<v Speaker 2>just feels like they just sort of making it up

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<v Speaker 2>a bit as they're going along.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean. I think maybe something that

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<v Speaker 1>contributes to that is the fact that, similar in a

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<v Speaker 1>way to the karaoke one, was that empty orchestra where

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the music that kind of runs all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through it. Yeah, and that kind of And again

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<v Speaker 1>they decided they wanted to base it on the proms,

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to have the actual proms playing the

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<v Speaker 1>entire way through. Yeah, which means that you've got this

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<v Speaker 1>soundtrack that is kind of set in stone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had to write the episode around that and

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<v Speaker 1>write all the dialogue to sort of match the peaks

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<v Speaker 1>and troughs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I was wondering, is it presumably it's the

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<v Speaker 2>problems of the previous year?

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<v Speaker 1>I looked it up. It's twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, what was this twenty one? So that filmed

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<v Speaker 2>it in twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what's his name? The sun has a World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup scarf on, which was twenty eighteen, so it fits

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<v Speaker 1>with that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so we set it in that, you're right? Okay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fairt Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, and the Brexit stuff

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<v Speaker 2>would be a little bit more recent.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, very yeah, topical. M I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's set somewhere in the West Country. They think they

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<v Speaker 1>will sound a bit bristly, Yeah, but it could be anywhere. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I keep feeling that, Oh what's that? Penny sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like she's off the archers a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So we've got a whole host of delightful people.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no one is particularly nice, not at all, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>for one reason or another. Who do we start with?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dawn is the kind of centerpiece of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably she's a lovely piece of work, isn't she.

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<v Speaker 1>She's awful, Yeah, absolutely perfectly caste.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Parrish, she she plays that kind of hard like

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<v Speaker 1>bitch like word. Yeah. So yeah, she's a bit scary,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you just know from from her first appearance

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<v Speaker 2>and her haircut and everything, she's clearly a Brexit lady.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is, but it's so obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Actually, she really reminds me of a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>people that I know. That's the thing about this this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of episode is that it is also relatable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just are types of people isn't it. There's

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<v Speaker 2>so many, you know, all of these characters, which is worrying.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's married to Mick, played by Steve, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a Yeah yeah, I mean he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of jovial and you know, I feel like his

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<v Speaker 1>heart's in the right place. He's just a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the kind of person that is fine for the

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<v Speaker 2>first ten minutes and then you quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, can you imagine evening? Fucking hell. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say, you know, the bit when he

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<v Speaker 1>when he starts mimicking the accents of the Scottish and

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<v Speaker 1>the Welsh. I was thinking, oh my god, is that

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<v Speaker 1>what I sound like every time I do an impression.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, because I'm like, oh, it's really cringey,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh god, Steven's doing a voice again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm terrible accents, so I couldn't comment, but it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>good to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, the way he's dressed, like the Union flag, yes, waistcoat.

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of he looks, you know, like the pearly

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<v Speaker 1>king kind of thing. He reminded me of that look.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like he's about to go and go for

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<v Speaker 2>the vote. Counting as local.

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<v Speaker 1>God yeah, MP thing for the Reform Party or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the BNP. Yeeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really cringey.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate flag related costumes. Oh god, yes, they're never

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<v Speaker 2>not incredibly tacky.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. I feel like he sort of knows it's taky, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like heah embraces it, true, but yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean. And just particularly English flags

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<v Speaker 1>and UK flags, like they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Just ugh, it's so sad because it is quite a

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<v Speaker 2>cool flag.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, but the way they've been hijacked.

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<v Speaker 2>But they've just ruined it in the last sort of

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<v Speaker 2>ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Where they've been Union hijacked. Yeah, that was terrible. Sorry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And like, especially like in recent couple of years, is

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<v Speaker 1>like when people paint those crosses on road signs and things.

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<v Speaker 1>When I go down to Ben's family, like there's some

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<v Speaker 1>on the road signs going down to where they live,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's that fox sake, Like you think these things

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<v Speaker 1>are happening somewhere in the country, but you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's happening right now. You're going to see it, you know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought I got away with it in York

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<v Speaker 2>because I thought York is quite a nice place. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I drove over to the other side of York

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<v Speaker 2>on one weekend and found out, Oh no, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>in a bit where they don't have them everywhere still like.

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<v Speaker 1>That bit in the Lion King with like, oh that bit,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the dark side of York.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't want Selby, we don't get to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's really really uncomfortable and cringe, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>All this flag stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's it's awful. Well that wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>too political or we can't not in this sort of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, it's sad for all of these people, the

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<v Speaker 2>Brexity people to have made it feel bad, you feel

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<v Speaker 2>guilty being proud of anything remotely related to your country anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Just kind of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Shame because they've they've turned it into something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've tagged on all sorts of things to that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so now you can't just you know, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you wanted to put a flag up, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm saying I would, but if you wanted to,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, like in America they have flags on

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<v Speaker 2>fucking everything. Like I'm not saying I want that, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you did. Yeah, that then it also adds on

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<v Speaker 2>all these other exactly thoughts to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wouldn't be seeing dead anywhere near an England flag. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you know, I'm not I'm not that I

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I love about her characters. That it's that,

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, like ugh, exist just to be horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's her, and like

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<v Speaker 3>she does look like a nice person. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>the scary thing that so many of these people do

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. Anyway, So Dawn's sister, Penny and her husband Brian, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are Yeah that sad, Yeah, very unhappy.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor Penny. She looks like she's just, you know, she's

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<v Speaker 2>just wandering around. She didn't know where the hell she

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<v Speaker 1>She's just Yeah, I guess she feels trapped in this,

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<v Speaker 1>this marriage that she's not happy in. No, with a

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<v Speaker 1>that she thinks that, but no, I think there's enough evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's never explicitly confirmed, but I struggle

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<v Speaker 2>and actually it's all completely explainable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is fine. You know, people can be married

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<v Speaker 2>It must being possible. Obviously, no one wins in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, but you'd think, you know, you'd like if

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<v Speaker 2>You'd think that. But yeah, yeah, I knew a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>like school sweethearts and everything, and then he realized that

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone assumed long before he did. He was the

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<v Speaker 2>he eventually came out and she was the most supportive,

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<v Speaker 2>They go on like family holidays, all of them together, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's so lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so lovely. I mean, obviously that doesn't always work

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<v Speaker 2>out like that, but it can.

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<v Speaker 1>There is hope, yeah, but no, not in this case. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of resent.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, I don't know what I think about Penny though,

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of I find her odd, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>true to me in a way. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is about it, but I just find something off.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, can you think of an example of a line, well, just.

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<v Speaker 2>The way she'll say things directly to Brian, Yeah, being

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Really specifically when she says to him about the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>she says, you like the changing rooms or that realis

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<v Speaker 1>and Harry bumholes. Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>bold thing to just come out with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just feels a little forced almost, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know whether it just doesn't feel as subtle as

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<v Speaker 2>I'd want her to. But maybe it's just because she's

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<v Speaker 2>been going through it that long that she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly Yeah, I think it's built and she's you know, drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe everyone's just used to it because she's not

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<v Speaker 1>having to be subtle, because Dawn and Mick probably know

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<v Speaker 1>that she's always on about him being gay and that true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just this, you know, I mean this in joke.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just got to that point now where you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows that that's what's going on, but no one's

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledging it directly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe. So we've also got Ralph Penny and Dawn's father.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, when you said Ralph, I'm like, is that the

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<v Speaker 2>dog is a five year old kid's name the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>Really you don't get adult Ralph's well.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, he's usually just called daddy in this,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't he so?

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<v Speaker 2>True? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, similar to when we talked about once removed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got the Alzheimer's thing being sort of played

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<v Speaker 1>for laughs. Yeah, slightly questionable, but it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, we don't know what's wrong with him specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>like to talk about some medication that he's on. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like it could be anything. I guess we're not particular,

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<v Speaker 2>just just doddery old man, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I assume that's the that's the intention, that

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<v Speaker 1>it's Alzheimer's, that the medications then making him probably but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's just there to be a plot device, really,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't he.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't get a lot more to do than

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<v Speaker 2>make bake your laugh a couple of times and then

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<v Speaker 2>move the plot along when you needed to. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>notice the weird portrait of him. No, that's on the

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<v Speaker 2>wall behind where reeseis sat, the sort of an archway

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<v Speaker 2>into another room, and then there's a big portrait on

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<v Speaker 2>the wall, a bit sort of mistrunch bull magnus sort

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<v Speaker 2>of style on the wall, like with lampsy the side

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<v Speaker 2>illuminating it. He looks serious and like I think the

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<v Speaker 2>first time I watched this fully expecting that to be important.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, I don't think i'd noticed that.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes no relevance of the story. No, but must

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<v Speaker 2>have cost a fair bit to have commissioned like someone.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I suppose he just put it through photoshop

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. You know, someone's had to go out of

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<v Speaker 2>the way to create that prop. Yeah, it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 2>add anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess it's I guess it's significant that he's

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of patriarch of the house and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So hmmm, maybe it's just highlighting that. I suppose it's

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<v Speaker 1>weird though.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you notice it, it's really intimidating. Another start

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<v Speaker 2>on a chair looking serious. Ye gave me a massive

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<v Speaker 2>Matilda flashback.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just a whole vibe this episode, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the phrase I've written down is obscene patriotism.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that plus the whole the sort of chaos of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dawns always making sure that no one's glass

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<v Speaker 1>is ever empty, orchestra blaring out sea shanties and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's a whole thing, isn't It's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Full on one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot going on, but equally not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I should work the proms a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to a few, mostly Doctor Who Wants. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to a couple of other more traditional ones as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's quite it's quite a fun experience. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea is it is like obviously bringing classical music, which

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be you know, often considered quite eyebrow

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<v Speaker 1>and stuffy, bringing it to the masses, as it were,

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<v Speaker 1>making it more accessible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's an interesting sort of setting for the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a good one. Because you've got Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>who is sort of a music lover and a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a pretentious swat about it, Whereas then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>Mick and Dawn, who are you know, They just are

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<v Speaker 1>there for the vibes. They don't really you know, about

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<v Speaker 1>the music, but they just you know, it's an excuse

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<v Speaker 1>to wave a flag.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, any excuse. Yeah, I would like to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know I use this as an excuse

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<v Speaker 2>to get hair and ages ago, but I didn't mean it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to go to the last night of

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<v Speaker 2>the Problem Von just to see what it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like a bucket list thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think live orchestral music.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it is. This is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's irrelevant what they're really playing. Yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>love being around that's just yeah, it's amazing to see

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<v Speaker 2>that that amount of talent.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jerusalem as well. It's one of my favorite songs.

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<v Speaker 2>It is lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's one of my mum's favorite songs as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just the tune. It's just so sort of stirring.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, all these silly traditions that apparently they have

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<v Speaker 1>with the everyone pretends to cry during this sad but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know about that one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't know about that very weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have watched it a few times, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess if you've not got like a commentator

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<v Speaker 2>or of explaining what's going on, you wouldn't maybe know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, David Dimblebee or something, Yeah, or David Attenborough. And

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<v Speaker 1>here we have the prom goers pretending to cry in

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<v Speaker 1>a strange ritual. So it's interesting. And again, like the

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<v Speaker 1>karaoke one, you've got the thing of the music going

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<v Speaker 1>all the way through it. Yeah, which makes another huge

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<v Speaker 1>technical challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>Well is it like in real time then when the

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<v Speaker 2>episode starts, is that then the next twenty eight minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of the proms?

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<v Speaker 1>I assume so, because from what I heard recently saying,

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<v Speaker 1>they said they didn't want to cheat it and have

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<v Speaker 1>like dipping in and out of bits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's kind of what I assumed they did.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted it to just you know, run through so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I can just assumed there was cut between

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<v Speaker 2>them going into the kitchen or whatever and come back

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<v Speaker 2>in and be ten minutes later in the problems when

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<v Speaker 2>it's a song they wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they did fudget slightly there, but certainly long, long

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<v Speaker 1>bits of it are real time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got to mention. Actually, right at the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode, you've got yusef who you see outside?

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<v Speaker 2>What's he doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm?

425
00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean I still don't really know, not really giving

426
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<v Speaker 2>any spiders earlier. I'm still clueless.

427
00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I guess it comes down to what you think,

428
00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:38.200
<v Speaker 1>who you think he is. But yeah, but yeah, he comes.

429
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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know.

430
00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I think Penny would have liked that.

431
00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:45.599
<v Speaker 2>But non, lay.

432
00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:49.680
<v Speaker 1>He lets himself into the conservatory, doesn't he.

433
00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I think? No, Penny lets him in, doesn't she. Oh? Yes,

434
00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:54.440
<v Speaker 2>he taps on the window and then just starts talking

435
00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:57.119
<v Speaker 2>to him, rappiting on about nonsense. Hmm.

436
00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, that, isn't it, because obviously complete strain. Mm hmm.

437
00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:03.359
<v Speaker 1>What is he doing in a stranger's garden?

438
00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

439
00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:07.000
<v Speaker 1>And then she very openly just lets him in and

440
00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>starts chatting to him like she's she's clearly desperate for

441
00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:10.759
<v Speaker 1>some sort of connection.

442
00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, surely more has gone on before this than she

443
00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:19.000
<v Speaker 2>must have seen him more than once or twice. It

444
00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:20.519
<v Speaker 2>just it feels really odd to me.

445
00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:23.599
<v Speaker 1>It is odd, isn't it? For me? I think it's

446
00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:25.839
<v Speaker 1>just her desperation. I think it's just you know, I

447
00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:27.160
<v Speaker 1>guess let's go for it.

448
00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:28.920
<v Speaker 2>She's an odd cast.

449
00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand he's weird, isn't she?

450
00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Because obviously I'm skipping ahead of bit. But when they

451
00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:37.000
<v Speaker 2>finished doing the next bit, she looks at him with

452
00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of disgusted and walks off. Does she well, sort

453
00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:43.200
<v Speaker 2>of looks at him a bit odd and then just

454
00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:45.759
<v Speaker 2>leaves him there in the conservatory wherever they are. M

455
00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:50.359
<v Speaker 2>And Okay, I don't get you, what are you doing?

456
00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's just for me. I think it's

457
00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.240
<v Speaker 1>part of the way that everybody in that house treats

458
00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.519
<v Speaker 1>him as, you know, something sub human. Know. She she

459
00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:05.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have any qualms about basically assaulting him. Yeah, because

460
00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:07.279
<v Speaker 1>she I don't know, she just doesn't see him as

461
00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that would matter somehow.

462
00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:11.400
<v Speaker 2>It's really sad.

463
00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:13.480
<v Speaker 1>It's very sad awful.

464
00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:17.599
<v Speaker 2>All he wants is to use the bathroom apparently, Yeah,

465
00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:21.759
<v Speaker 2>effectively actually assaults him at this point exactly. I mean,

466
00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know exactly what's going on, but it's not good. Yeah,

467
00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:26.440
<v Speaker 2>altitude of.

468
00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:33.119
<v Speaker 1>The Sailors's gonna say all underscored by that getting.

469
00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Faster and faster, such a jolly little cheer and doing that. Yeah,

470
00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:46.720
<v Speaker 2>have words with yourself, Penny. Meanwhile, well, yeah, they're all

471
00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:48.440
<v Speaker 2>in the other room in a way.

472
00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Brian starts to show his pedantry mm hmmm, which

473
00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:55.640
<v Speaker 1>is quite entertaining.

474
00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm worried I'm going to become that pedant.

475
00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:01.079
<v Speaker 1>No, because I was the the same. I was thinking, oh,

476
00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:01.599
<v Speaker 1>this is so me.

477
00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:05.839
<v Speaker 2>That kind of thing really bugs me. But I've not

478
00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:07.839
<v Speaker 2>yet got to the age where i just blurt it out,

479
00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:10.119
<v Speaker 2>like I hold it back for ninety percent of the

480
00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.400
<v Speaker 2>time exactly. I'm worried when I'm in my fifties that

481
00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.839
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'll be doing. Yeah. Yeah, because you've heard

482
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.319
<v Speaker 2>people say it wrong for the last whatever however many years,

483
00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:20.039
<v Speaker 2>and you're just like, I can't hold this back.

484
00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Anymore exactly, And when it's in that pressure cooker thing

485
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.160
<v Speaker 1>of you know, family that have brought these tensions as well,

486
00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:26.559
<v Speaker 1>you know.

487
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he has a lot of wine. He always

488
00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:31.400
<v Speaker 2>has always got to see some of a full glass

489
00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.720
<v Speaker 2>of wine. Yeah, I don't. I know that I'm pedantic

490
00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:37.240
<v Speaker 2>about things and I hate it. But equally, if I

491
00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.119
<v Speaker 2>don't say anything, I feel like I'm condoning what Yeah,

492
00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:43.519
<v Speaker 2>agreeing with what you're saying, I know what you mean,

493
00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:45.440
<v Speaker 2>and telling you you're right when I know you're not.

494
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:46.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's really like.

495
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:48.000
<v Speaker 1>It's very tricky, isn't it.

496
00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And my sister always tells me off about it,

497
00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:53.599
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, but I do it from almost a

498
00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:55.559
<v Speaker 2>place of love in that I'm like, I don't want

499
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.240
<v Speaker 2>you going out and saying this rubbish to strangers laugh

500
00:23:58.279 --> 00:23:58.640
<v Speaker 2>at you.

501
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. It's also like, you know,

502
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm always been accused of like correcting, particularly by my

503
00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:08.799
<v Speaker 1>partner Ben. He's always said, oh, you're always correcting me

504
00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>this and that. It's not that I'm saying, oh, you're

505
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>wrong and I'm right, therefore I'm better than you. It's

506
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:16.079
<v Speaker 1>just the fact that if something is said that is

507
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>wrong and I know it's wrong, I feel like I

508
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.640
<v Speaker 1>just need to have it be correct otherwise it doesn't

509
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:23.319
<v Speaker 1>feel right. Do you know what I mean?

510
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

511
00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:28.799
<v Speaker 1>So, yes, sorry to anyone I've corrected in the past,

512
00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:36.039
<v Speaker 1>including you.

513
00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh please do, please do, and vice versa. I mean,

514
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:43.039
<v Speaker 2>you never make any mistakes well exactly, but the one

515
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:46.359
<v Speaker 2>time you do, I will jump on it. You said

516
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>starting to do maths in series one.

517
00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:51.519
<v Speaker 1>The funny thing is we have this running joke that

518
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't do maths, and I cut out the original

519
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.480
<v Speaker 1>instance of that because I was embarrassed by it. It

520
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:00.519
<v Speaker 1>was one of our episodes. I gave us six out

521
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of nine, and then I made some comment about I'm

522
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:04.039
<v Speaker 1>not even gonna try and work out what that is

523
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>as a percentage, and you were just like, well, sixty

524
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>six percent actually, and I was like, of course it is,

525
00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:12.079
<v Speaker 1>and I was so embarrassed that I've made such a

526
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.279
<v Speaker 1>stupid error. I was like, I just cut that, and

527
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>then we kept referencing it like I can't do math.

528
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, if you ever wondered about that, that's

529
00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:29.039
<v Speaker 1>that was why you're AnyWho. Yeah, that's the thing about

530
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:31.519
<v Speaker 1>for someone like you and me, who we like things

531
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>to be correct, that kind of character is quite satisfying,

532
00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, we might not be like that ourselves, but

533
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:41.519
<v Speaker 1>it's quite satisfying to like watch him like live vicereously

534
00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:43.839
<v Speaker 1>through him and like be like, yes, I wish I

535
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>could do that. I know you're not supposed to like

536
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:50.839
<v Speaker 1>him as a character, but it's like, yeah, to say

537
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the thing you want to say tell them, you tell

538
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>them it's Fantasia on bush Sea songs. Yeah, anyway, what

539
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:01.640
<v Speaker 1>else have we got? Ollie asks if he can have

540
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:02.079
<v Speaker 1>a drink.

541
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:04.640
<v Speaker 2>We haven't mentioned Olli yet, have we not? Really? No,

542
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>so that's their son.

543
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't really want to be there. No, he's on his

544
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>on his phone listening to music.

545
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't really do a lot.

546
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Makes me wonder actually, you know he is he needed?

547
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>What's he really there for?

548
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I guess it's just to make the family seem

549
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>more real. You had another generation for the family, don't you.

550
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:26.519
<v Speaker 1>And the awkwardness of the dad being gay makes it

551
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>makes it a bit worse if there's a son involved.

552
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe, And it's a it's a character to get

553
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>drunk for them.

554
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yes, that's true. And it's a nice contrast

555
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.599
<v Speaker 1>because he's, you know, he's the young generation versus these

556
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 1>old twats Like yeah, I love that bit where he

557
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>says about you know, he's doing music tech and Steve's

558
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:46.599
<v Speaker 1>characters like oh on the computers. Yeah, that's the future,

559
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. And he's like, well, actually no, it's the present.

560
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>The way deliver us the lines about the little boxes

561
00:26:54.319 --> 00:27:00.160
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, Yeah, like he's having a laugh himself.

562
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yes, he's apparently not old enough to drink, so.

563
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.599
<v Speaker 2>No, he assume that's why he's why he's not like

564
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>to drink unless he's driving them home.

565
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that line from Dawn about when she's talking

566
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>about the flags that have gone on in the proms

567
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>and she says it's meant to be an English concert

568
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:22.640
<v Speaker 1>for English people.

569
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you get like a gentleman flashback?

570
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I did. I was thinking as I wrote it down,

571
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, an English concert for English people.

572
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:34.599
<v Speaker 2>I have no outsiders here.

573
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite character is probably Mick, even though

574
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.880
<v Speaker 1>he's really irritating. Yeah, I think he does make me laugh.

575
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Also, if it weren't for Olie, we wouldn't get Mick

576
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.079
<v Speaker 2>being incredibly cringey doing old person pretending to be young,

577
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 2>doing all the dabbing and the oh god, yeah, it's

578
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.319
<v Speaker 2>so cringey, but so funny and relatable.

579
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Bless him.

580
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 2>So this is where all the we start to get

581
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:09.519
<v Speaker 2>all the Brexit talk. I love the line it's Lug's

582
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>voting from Marshalt. Yeah, perfect, though, did you toe the

583
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>line quite well? I think of not saying one side

584
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 2>right or wrong? Yeah, I know it may be they

585
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>show both sides to be wrong really.

586
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, there's always all this thing of old the

587
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 1>BBC's biased and all that. So I can imagine they

588
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>were trying to avoid that hm, because you know, at

589
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, you know it was, we

590
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:34.759
<v Speaker 1>all know how close it was, and you don't know

591
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 1>half your audience might have voted one way or the other.

592
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

593
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I struggled to accept that, but I.

594
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Agree, I do you have a poll? But yeah, they

595
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>show how both sides are awful people really.

596
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Well exactly, yeah, or can be.

597
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I can be. Yeah.

598
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I also love how the dog was called Boris with

599
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the shaggy shaggy hair, and I'm like, is there a yeah?

600
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Was he called that for a reason?

601
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because I was going to say this, I'm not.

602
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't twig immediately. That's why. I probably was why

603
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 2>because I saw in the credits there was such a

604
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:13.759
<v Speaker 2>long list of people. Now it's like there's not that

605
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>many characters, and I added them all up and worked

606
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>out that it was about right. And then I was like, oh,

607
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 2>the dog is getting is in the credits, and I

608
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>was thinking, like, I never understand why they take the

609
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.559
<v Speaker 2>name of a dog and give it a different name, Like,

610
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 2>why not just call it its real name? Does it

611
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 2>really matter? That's probably why they did it on this

612
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:32.119
<v Speaker 2>occasion at least.

613
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

614
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 2>I can understand it when it's meant to be playing

615
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>a dog from a book or whatever. But I like

616
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 2>when it's just a dog in a thing, Why does

617
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.079
<v Speaker 2>it matter what it's called? Yeah, just give it its

618
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 2>real name. I'm sure the dog had the whale over time.

619
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Probably yeahs and things. Yeah, although they no, they probably

620
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:53.119
<v Speaker 2>couldn't have sage rolls. They calt of onions?

621
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Can they dogst me? No?

622
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 2>I think the poisonous to dogs.

623
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

624
00:29:57.839 --> 00:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I think they are.

625
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.599
<v Speaker 1>I know chocolate is a bad thing, but yeah, I

626
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't have that.

627
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Onions pretty sure, all that kind of stuff, onions, garlic,

628
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of thing.

629
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:07.759
<v Speaker 1>To ask Ben he likes dogs.

630
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>So when Penny just refers to Brian like point blank

631
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and calls him a hollowed out husk of a man, Oh,

632
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>she's been suffering for a while.

633
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can believe that though, you know,

634
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>when tensions run high and people say things, we've also

635
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:31.119
<v Speaker 1>had Ollie's drink that he asks, Oh, what is this mum,

636
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 1>and she says, just mineral water. Yeah, and obviously, you know,

637
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.119
<v Speaker 1>we we sort of assume later there's there's alcohol there

638
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah and all the connotations of that

639
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 1>in that first moment when she says, oh, it's just

640
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>mineral water and then she looks away and he sort

641
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of does this look as if to say, oh, I

642
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 1>don't think it is, and carries on drinking it. I

643
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 1>interpreted that as that she'd slipped him something like on

644
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the slide, so that the father didn't have to know.

645
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah I didn't.

646
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but obviously not No, I think, yeah.

647
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I think I don't know if you meant to think

648
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 2>that that, yeah, the mom has slipped him something. Maybe Yeah,

649
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, if you have to, we all have

650
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>to suffer through this. So exactly thats exactly how I

651
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>interpreted it. I thought it was like, oh, you know,

652
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 2>join the club, you gotta get drunk sort of thing.

653
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, so we've got the DNA test.

654
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Freddie at the gym printed out bum chum.

655
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>He does the time of his little little comments is great.

656
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>We said earlier, it's questionable about the old, but that

657
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 2>joke is worth it.

658
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes, no filter. It's just like word association almost, like.

659
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's mostly German.

660
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.319
<v Speaker 1>It gets so uncomfortable when the way that Reese's character

661
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>is just delighting in it. Yeah, because he's supposed to

662
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.720
<v Speaker 1>be he's supposed to be the liberal one, but he's

663
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 1>actually being he has been a dick, and he's you know,

664
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>if he was really liberal, he would be saying to oh,

665
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, it doesn't matter, like what your makeup is

666
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>or but he's almost delighting in the fact that knowing

667
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.319
<v Speaker 1>that she will hate the fact that she's not as

668
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>British as she thought she was.

669
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>True, however, like when you've been surrounded by that for

670
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 2>so long and she'll ha been oh yeah talking about him, mate,

671
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>that's true, holier than thou and all this sort of

672
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>like aren't I amazing to then find a reason as

673
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>to why you're not perfect, like by your own standard.

674
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 1>But in her face, Yeah, I can understand that.

675
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he won't agree with it, but it doesn't mean

676
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 2>that she won't like.

677
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can understand that because.

678
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>We had a we had a guy at work that

679
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>was quite similar in that way. Oh really, like he

680
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 2>was super duper British and we me and a friend

681
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.559
<v Speaker 2>joked that we wanted to do on the twenty three

682
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 2>and meter test to find out that he was like

683
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 2>half French or whatever. That would have killed him, but

684
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>we daren't do it. I'll suggest it in case it

685
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>turned out he actually was one hundred percent British and

686
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 2>we'd never live it down. Yeah, it's yet more fuel

687
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>for him. Yeah, we didn't go to the lengths of

688
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 2>pretending we were doing quizzes and counting teeth. Hey, you

689
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>remember that time.

690
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 1>We got a cheeky swab in there. But yeah, that's

691
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the really stupid thing about this whole British pride thing

692
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>is that of all the countries, like Britain is such

693
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>an amalgam of different different things anyway, So what does

694
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:31.519
<v Speaker 1>it even mean to be British? Like you go back

695
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>at far enough, you're going to be from all over

696
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the place anyway.

697
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>So people we've invaded, people have invaded us back and sex, Ok,

698
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>yeah for literally centuries.

699
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but yeah, you're sixty percent German. Fraulein Schmidt

700
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and when he goes really like and so you decided

701
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>to play detective hair Muller returns for a minute.

702
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll be checking the Lotus Biscoff in a minute

703
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 2>and checking it in date.

704
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so this I find this a bit of

705
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.639
<v Speaker 1>a stretch because it turns out that her father is

706
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.199
<v Speaker 1>not really her father. Yeah, so that means that she's

707
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.559
<v Speaker 1>not going to inherit the house. Yeah, Like is that legitimate?

708
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Surely there's enough?

709
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean no, Like, yeah, maybe maybe you could have

710
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>argued it if the father was a sound mind, and

711
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.880
<v Speaker 2>you could have played on his racism and got him

712
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.119
<v Speaker 2>to cut her out of the will. Yes, fine, yes,

713
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 2>but presumably there will be a will already that says

714
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it goes to half and half and all this sort

715
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>of stuff.

716
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

717
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's irrelevant really.

718
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, no, Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me.

719
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Speaker 2>No, I can't believe someone with that bigger house and

720
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 2>they're clearly a well to do family wouldn't have a

721
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>will in place. The only reason that it would ever

722
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.119
<v Speaker 2>go to just them is if there wasn't a will

723
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.039
<v Speaker 2>and they'd had to you know, fight it out, and

724
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 2>they could claim, you know, she's not family and all

725
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 2>this sort of nonsense. Yeah, but yeah, I struggle to

726
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 2>imagine that really would play out in real life. I

727
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:12.239
<v Speaker 2>love her so excited to claim that she was conceived

728
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 2>on holiday in Western super mare of all places, and

729
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>then to go from the banality of being conceived in

730
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Western supermer who was actually in the ski holiday in

731
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Bavaria or whatever. It's like, could you compare two different things?

732
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, oli vomits mm hmm.

733
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Kid, Yeah, you got to pretend better than that.

734
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>And use of appears mmm hood up looking especially Jesus like.

735
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>And obviously no one else has seen him at this point,

736
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:55.639
<v Speaker 2>only Penny, so they're quite rightly sort of what who

737
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 2>are you? Hi?

738
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Interesting that she just kind of him in and then

739
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 1>just left him like yeah, to be in the.

740
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 2>House, Like, what did she expect was going to happen?

741
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very strange.

742
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't really add up for me.

743
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:12.159
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and this is where it gets really like,

744
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 1>you know who. You thought that the racist people were

745
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 1>Mick and Dawn, Yeah, and that Brian was a bit

746
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 1>more liberal. Turns out he has a much more extreme reaction.

747
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's a foreigner in our house a bomb.

748
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't really understand. Yeah, I know, it's

749
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 2>whole The whole point is showing that, you know, just

750
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>because you're liberal doesn't mean you can't be racist or whatever. Yeah,

751
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't really like what happens with Brian from here on.

752
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

753
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 1>It's the hypocrisy, isn't it. He takes such a holier

754
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.079
<v Speaker 1>than our attitude the whole time of like, oh, you know,

755
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm more sophisticated, I know the right way to be

756
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 1>in that, this and that. But when it boils down

757
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to it and the actual fear in the moment of

758
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>this stranger being in the house, he has this deep

759
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:58.639
<v Speaker 1>sort of visceral reaction.

760
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, if anything mixed the most like hospitable,

761
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, he's treating him like a hedgehog,

762
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>but at least he's offering him milk.

763
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.599
<v Speaker 1>And bread and like talking to him a bit more nice.

764
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

765
00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is funny though. Would you like some bread,

766
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>bowl of milk or something it's not a head jug. Yeah.

767
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.559
<v Speaker 1>We also we've had the thing where the food has

768
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 1>all sort of been eaten, but then they go back

769
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>through and it's been replenished magically.

770
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

771
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Ye house have been at work, and it's sort of Yeah.

772
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you watch this for the first time,

773
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:36.760
<v Speaker 1>at what point did you start to think they're going

774
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 1>down the Jesus route.

775
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think I think it was when

776
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the bottle of water actually after this, yeah,

777
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 2>like the next one being the water and thinking, oh, okay, yeah,

778
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 2>we're doing some sort of potentially supernaturally situation. Mmm.

779
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 1>It's because I like the way that they have this

780
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 1>whole thing of oh, this food has all been eaten

781
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and now it's it's back. And then mixes do you

782
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>think he could be from a.

783
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Card, which the accent only helps, but the.

784
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Way that, you know, the way that they're kind of leading,

785
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>like if any audience is starting to suspect that maybe

786
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 1>they're doing a Jesus thing, and then Mix starts to

787
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>say it, and then and meanwhile Brian is also assaulting

788
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>use of oh God, unto the guise of frisking.

789
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Him mm hmmm and not holding back.

790
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:39.039
<v Speaker 1>And right in front of his son, Brian, yeah dear,

791
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>once again treating him.

792
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:45.679
<v Speaker 2>As yeah, it's not easy to watch that bit.

793
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:48.599
<v Speaker 1>Noah, he's actually a horrible man, isn't he.

794
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, they all are really in one way or another.

795
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.320
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I think that I was gonna say

796
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the penny drops with penny, but she realizes that she's

797
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 1>denied him three times, and so suddenly she gets very biblical. Yeah,

798
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>drop all that Sunday school hours, Yeah, coming in. Oh,

799
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:13.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, my lord and all that.

800
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 2>You know. All the while, like Ralse worked out as

801
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Jesus already and thinks he's coming to take him away. Yes,

802
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.480
<v Speaker 2>which reminds me of you know the podcast they recommended

803
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 2>to you, Lateral where they ask like lateral thinking questions. Yeah,

804
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 2>there was an example one they had where I can't

805
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.559
<v Speaker 2>be the exact question how they got through it, but

806
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 2>the anecdote that was the answer was that there was

807
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 2>a guy called Jesus working in a hospital and he

808
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.239
<v Speaker 2>decided to go by a pseudonym just because he was

809
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Speaker 2>frightening too many old people when they'd hear on the

810
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 2>intercom Jesus to the toward three.

811
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 1>Or whatever, yes.

812
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Or Jesus will be with you soon or whatever. Yeah,

813
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>because he was like a porter or something.

814
00:39:55.079 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh dear, quite amazing. Yeah, yes, so he gets works

815
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 1>up into a right tizzy.

816
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

817
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, the garden fork that was handily brought in

818
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:11.599
<v Speaker 1>by Steve earlier because he was pretending to be Britannia.

819
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, quite well done. Actually I didn't like they didn't

820
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>feel obvious when that the Yeah, that.

821
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Was well done. That was well done.

822
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, subtle, subtle enough. Yeah, there was enough going on

823
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.119
<v Speaker 2>in that scene to distract you from it, exactly. Weird

824
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.239
<v Speaker 2>cloak in the head piece, Yes.

825
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>As I like that bit when Brian's literally just gone

826
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>through the whole it's rule comma Britannia, exclamation mark all

827
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 1>that bit, and then Steve just comes in and he's like,

828
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Britannia rules the way. Just feel the pain if Brian, do.

829
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I have to teach you all again?

830
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But yes, so stabby stabby, Ralph stabs you stuff.

831
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, several times, and then Brian joins in. Now this

832
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.239
<v Speaker 2>is the bit I don't understand. Yeah, why does Brian

833
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 2>join in? I can't work that out.

834
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's he's almost taken what Ralph's done as

835
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>an excuse to start, you know, and he's he's you know,

836
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.519
<v Speaker 1>as we said, he had the most sort of visceral,

837
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>probably the most sort of racist reaction to him and

838
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the fear.

839
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.599
<v Speaker 2>There's a difference between racism and actually wanting to kill someone,

840
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Like there's one thing to say that you want someone

841
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:23.880
<v Speaker 2>to not have rights or whatever, but to actually physically

842
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 2>stab them in front of you.

843
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:27.639
<v Speaker 1>But it's the fear, isn't it. He thinks that it's

844
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>an invader come into the house and heat that they're

845
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 1>in danger. I think that's what he thinks.

846
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 2>I could, I could maybe Eve understood it if Brian

847
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 2>stabbed him first. But once he's been stabbed by Ralph,

848
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 2>like shurely, he doesn't pose a threat at this point. Like,

849
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.320
<v Speaker 2>where's his justification for thinking he's in danger?

850
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't quite work, does it.

851
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 2>This guy's bleeding out on the floor in front of you, hmm,

852
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Like he's clean, not about to hurt you or whatever

853
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:58.559
<v Speaker 2>or whatever whatever racist thoughts you're thinking about this guy. Yeah,

854
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 2>if anything, surely that's the point when you go, oh shit,

855
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 2>this is a person.

856
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly.

857
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like that's when the racism surely melts away. If anything.

858
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, you know, the.

859
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Whole we all bleed the same, all that kind of thing.

860
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, like you'd.

861
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Think he would have, don't, because you can you can

862
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>see a point where he goes, oh fuck base and

863
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:21.519
<v Speaker 2>grabs the knife off the mantelpiece or wherever it is.

864
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know what's going through his head at

865
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 2>that point. No, And it's not like a point afterwards,

866
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>whether he explains it or anything. No.

867
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 1>The only thing is in the final scene where he

868
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 1>says about self defense and we had to defend ourselves.

869
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>But the dad had already done that.

870
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I guess, you know, it's such a hectic moment.

871
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess, I don't know. It is weird, isn't it.

872
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess it just feels to me a bit like, Okay,

873
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>so Ralph's done this big stab, but Brian's will want

874
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 1>to finish the job and make sure he's definitely definitely

875
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:55.119
<v Speaker 1>dead sort of thing.

876
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:59.840
<v Speaker 2>By stabbing him with something smaller.

877
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Clutching its straws here. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

878
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that. I don't agree that Brian might

879
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:11.480
<v Speaker 2>have done that. I just don't understand what's going through

880
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 2>his head to make him about doing that.

881
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I haven't thought about it too much, but yeah, yeah,

882
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Jerusalem's blaring out at this point. Yeah.

883
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're clean up now with Jerusalem playing ruined their

884
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 2>best flag. Oh god, it looked quite a good one. Actually,

885
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>it didn't look like a tacky polyester thing.

886
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 1>No, but yeah, I mean, how on the nose do

887
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to get as well about you know, this

888
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>patriotism and the blood on its hands and all that.

889
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, plus it's the whole point of this is

890
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 2>that he is Jesus cross. Well yeah, true, Actually I'm

891
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>not even considered that, but oh god, I said the line.

892
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 2>But more that isn't the whole point of the Jerusalem

893
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Song about Jesus coming to England. Yeah, to England and

894
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:04.960
<v Speaker 2>building a new Jerusalem here and all that kind of stuff.

895
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 2>And Jesus does come in, the first thing to do

896
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>is kill him.

897
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah, it's all It's all connected. Yeah, yeah, there's

898
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:12.559
<v Speaker 1>so much you could say about that. But yeah, I

899
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>was originally I was thinking more about like, this obsessive

900
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>patriotism has caused so much bloodshed, so to have the

901
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of the flag soaked in blood has so sort

902
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of symbolic.

903
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

904
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 1>And what I find weird is that through all this

905
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 1>disposing of the body and doing the major clean up

906
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and everything, the TV is still on, still playing the proms.

907
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.079
<v Speaker 1>You think you'd turn that off. If anything's going to

908
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>make you turn it off, it would be this. Apparently

909
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>not Yeah, so they don't want the silence. She's even

910
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 1>cleaning blood off the TV and it's still playing the.

911
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to miss a bit.

912
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>No, so a bit later then, mm hmmm.

913
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Problems are finished. Were in silence at last?

914
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank god. They say about they can't remember the

915
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>last time the spare room has been used, and apparently

916
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 1>it was last year when they had the argument about

917
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 1>cream tease.

918
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's an argument I'll never understand.

919
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ways to upset people from the West Country.

920
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I know, surely once you eat it, don't want it

921
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.239
<v Speaker 2>in your mouth and mushed about a bit, it doesn't

922
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:26.119
<v Speaker 2>make any difference anyhow, Very good point. Yeah, my argument

923
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:27.960
<v Speaker 2>isn't that one is right and what is wrong. It's

924
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:28.840
<v Speaker 2>neither matter.

925
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:29.559
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter.

926
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, surely, it's just whichever is the more solid goes

927
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:36.159
<v Speaker 2>on first, because you can't rub a solid thing onto it.

928
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Don't even.

929
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering where that sentence was going. Yeah, but

930
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>no they Yeah, they take it so seriously, don't they. Yeah,

931
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's probably even more divisive than Brexit.

932
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 2>But they start to explain about how these miracles could

933
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:00.599
<v Speaker 2>have happened. Yeah, I've had a bit odd that Dawn

934
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 2>and Mick that lived there seem amazed by the food,

935
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 2>but then can explain the food like later, So surely

936
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>they'd have known all this food existed. Yeah, and she's

937
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.920
<v Speaker 2>just filling up bottles with water that apparently are half

938
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 2>full of beer or something. Yeah, and doesn't seem to care.

939
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 2>She's just like, I'll top this bottle up and give

940
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 2>it to the kids. Yeah, it was a little convenient

941
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 2>or not convenient, but like it didn't it wasn't as

942
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 2>satisfying how these things could have happened that weren't Jesus.

943
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.280
<v Speaker 1>E Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I suppose

944
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, the fact that they are flimsy explanations goes

945
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>towards it being that he really was Jesus. Yeah, because

946
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously it's supposed to be open ended. But yeah, for me,

947
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, the fact that those explanations don't really

948
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.719
<v Speaker 1>add up is a nice pointer.

949
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, you say it's open ended, but if it

950
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:56.719
<v Speaker 2>is open ended and it wasn't Jesus, yeah, it's Penny

951
00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:57.840
<v Speaker 2>just gone insane at the end.

952
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, we only see it in the reflection in the window,

953
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>don't we say, But.

954
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Presumably that's what she's seeing yeah, she.

955
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Could be hallucinating, yeah, or it could just it could

956
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 1>just be a symbolic sort of you know, I don't know.

957
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So just to explain, Penny then sees quote unquote

958
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Jesus in his glowy hoodie in the window and gets

959
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 2>a nice little cuddle. So is there an element of

960
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:30.480
<v Speaker 2>like she saw realized it was Jesus or she thinks

961
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it is and went along with it, whereas everyone else

962
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.400
<v Speaker 2>killed him and or covered up, like buried his body

963
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:41.159
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and like she was the one that's like

964
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 2>still in his good graces kind of thing maybe. Or

965
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>is it that she's now died or something and he's

966
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 2>come to take her away or what like. I don't

967
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 2>know what's going on at the end of this.

968
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 1>No, I think she because you know, as soon as

969
00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>she twigs that it might be Jesus, she gets very

970
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:03.079
<v Speaker 1>very sort of fervent and very sort of religious. And

971
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 1>it feels like she's got a lot of like religious

972
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 1>knowledge and so like Bible knowledge, and it's like maybe

973
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 1>she is the most sort of you know, pious out

974
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.639
<v Speaker 1>of them all or something. I don't know. And I

975
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>know she says some horrible things to Brian, but she

976
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.559
<v Speaker 1>probably is the nicest. That of all of them, I

977
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 1>think the nicest.

978
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:22.760
<v Speaker 2>She's just the dippiest.

979
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Well I don't know, Yeah, who knows, to be honest,

980
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:28.880
<v Speaker 1>or she.

981
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Just had a mental break at this point, and no,

982
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 2>she's just seeing Jesus.

983
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes she could have done. But yeah, but there's got

984
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:35.559
<v Speaker 1>to be there's gotta be a reason that they only

985
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:38.039
<v Speaker 1>show in the reflection that we don't see it directly.

986
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's a vampire, he's a reverse vampire.

987
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So it is an interesting one.

988
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird. First first troup. So I've watched it

989
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:58.679
<v Speaker 2>three times today. First watch, I ended it by going, well,

990
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:02.039
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck was that? Okay, and was expecting to

991
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:04.320
<v Speaker 2>rank this very low, And then I've watched it more

992
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.039
<v Speaker 2>times and I'm enjoying it more each time I've watched it.

993
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.119
<v Speaker 2>It's still weird and it's not one of my favorites,

994
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's better than it was. Okay, I'll let

995
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.000
<v Speaker 2>you rank first. Then Okay, well I mean that seem

996
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 2>too cruel.

997
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.199
<v Speaker 1>No, that's fine. What depends what you count as cruel,

998
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, I, as I said before, I sometimes you know,

999
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.639
<v Speaker 1>write down a little provisional score and then see if

1000
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.400
<v Speaker 1>it changes, and I think I did write down a seven.

1001
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, but it's I think it's jumped down to

1002
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:36.159
<v Speaker 1>a six okay for me.

1003
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 2>You see, this is a bit where it's how you

1004
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 2>judge it in terms of would I rather watch this

1005
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.280
<v Speaker 2>than another one? Is that a fair way to compare two?

1006
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Because for like, I'm just looking at this series. I

1007
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.679
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed last week's more, but it feels cruel to rank

1008
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:54.760
<v Speaker 2>it a three.

1009
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:56.079
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

1010
00:49:56.519 --> 00:50:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would much rather watched last week's Again, I

1011
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.920
<v Speaker 2>thought objectively it was probably better well then in a way,

1012
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. I think I'm going to put

1013
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 2>it as a four, okay and tie it with last.

1014
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Week, just a different kind of four. Yeah, that's fair.

1015
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot going on in it, Yeah, possibly too much?

1016
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Would it have more interesting if it had just

1017
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.559
<v Speaker 2>been the whole Brexity patriotism thing? Did we need Jesus there?

1018
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, interesting, I'm.

1019
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Not said it in a little while. It is one

1020
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I think would have benefited from being longer. M h.

1021
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:35.639
<v Speaker 2>If it had been an hour and a half and

1022
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 2>you'd have had you'd have gotten to properly understand these people.

1023
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:41.320
<v Speaker 2>You may be able to see things a bit better

1024
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:45.239
<v Speaker 2>and might have been slightly more satisfying. I don't know.

1025
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know where was the hair?

1026
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Did you put it?

1027
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Nope?

1028
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Neither, Okay, I had to google. It's too many rooms

1029
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 2>and too much going on. It's on the window silled

1030
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 2>by the buffet table. Oh, okay, I think the window

1031
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.559
<v Speaker 2>that she looks out and finds youse in first time. Okay,

1032
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:04.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not very easy to see, and there's a lot

1033
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 2>of options where it.

1034
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Could be fair enough, I gave up. Now, don't don't

1035
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:15.400
<v Speaker 1>turn off as some people. Apparently. We've got a whole

1036
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:17.440
<v Speaker 1>fun thing that we like to do at the end

1037
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 1>of a series. It's quiz time.

1038
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Quiz time, right, So we'll have one question per episode.

1039
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Feel free to play along at home and see how

1040
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 2>you do. We'll be starting with Wuthering Heist. So my

1041
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:38.400
<v Speaker 2>question for you, Stephen is how much were the diamonds worth? Oh?

1042
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 1>I think I know, of course you fucking do. I'm sorry,

1043
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. I feel so bad, but I think

1044
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I do know. I think is it? Is it? Twelve

1045
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.320
<v Speaker 1>million pounds? It is?

1046
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Hell? I was struggling on that one. There were so

1047
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:57.679
<v Speaker 2>many other questions I could have gone with, and I

1048
00:51:57.840 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, even I think these are crawl. I was like,

1049
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:02.559
<v Speaker 2>what's the name of the coffee shop where they're going

1050
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:03.000
<v Speaker 2>to steal?

1051
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:05.639
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't have got that that.

1052
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 2>What was it called? It had a pun name it

1053
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 2>has been or whatever, brew something I can't remember now,

1054
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:15.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, nearly with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, your question for Weathering heighst is I'm sure

1056
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<v Speaker 1>you'll get this.

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00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't say that.

1058
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:28.360
<v Speaker 1>What is revealed to be Colum Beaner's real name.

1059
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Inspects Janis? Well someone janis Janis?

1060
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, detective sergeant. Actually, but yes, i'llargue you.

1061
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:41.199
<v Speaker 2>That assume as the hell inspectors. I've given her too

1062
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:49.000
<v Speaker 2>much power. Yeah, So Simon says, what Rotten Tomatoes scored?

1063
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Did the finale of nine Circle receive?

1064
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, thirty three percent?

1065
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<v Speaker 2>Hello, yes, it's thirty thing thirty one?

1066
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was close.

1067
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:05.719
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't it was?

1068
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 1>But no cigar?

1069
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:07.719
<v Speaker 2>No?

1070
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<v Speaker 1>Okay? What food item is a key part of Spencer's

1071
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>breakfast rough team when he's writing great for it?

1072
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so lip service? What is Iris's dad chat username?

1073
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh? No, something really rude just pops into my It

1074
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.519
<v Speaker 1>was more like a grinder username. I'm not going to

1075
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 1>say that. I don't know. It's something like bored Dad.

1076
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know.

1077
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<v Speaker 2>Pass tired Terry sixty six, Ah, tired Terry. Oh.

1078
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<v Speaker 1>I thought you'd know that one, Michael, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>you fucking know you know this because you fucking mentioned

1080
00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it earlier in this episode. Yes, Michael, is what brand

1081
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:02.440
<v Speaker 1>of biscuits? Does Muller have to check the.

1082
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Lotus ones?

1083
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

1084
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Correct? Hurry up and wait? What scene number is James

1085
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:14.719
<v Speaker 2>appearing in.

1086
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Twelve Bollocks Bollocks Bollocks Bollocks? Which Shakespearean TV series? Does

1087
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:28.840
<v Speaker 1>James say he loved Adrian dunbar in? Oh?

1088
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:36.239
<v Speaker 2>I remember him saying it. The only one that's jumping out.

1089
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm certain is wrong, but I don't have anything else

1090
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 2>to say, So I'm going to say the Tempest, but

1091
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it is.

1092
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.800
<v Speaker 1>No, it was the Hollow Crown.

1093
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I didn't even I didn't even know that was

1094
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:51.239
<v Speaker 2>a Shakespeare.

1095
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Well it's not. It's the Nest, the name of the

1096
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>TV series, but it combined several of Shakespeare's histories.

1097
00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, That's what was That's what was confusing me. I

1098
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 2>think I was no, no, no, it's not your fault.

1099
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:04.360
<v Speaker 2>But I think I was thinking of a Shakespeare play

1100
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:10.199
<v Speaker 2>and couldn't make any of them fit. How do you plead? What? Oh,

1101
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you'll know this. What was Andrew Waite accused of? Oh?

1102
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know it. Oh what was he accused of?

1103
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:24.039
<v Speaker 1>I know he the false evidence of a photo of

1104
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:27.480
<v Speaker 1>him at a party miles away? But what was he

1105
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:31.800
<v Speaker 1>accused of doing? How specific do you have to be?

1106
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Can I just say murder?

1107
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:35.039
<v Speaker 2>No?

1108
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

1109
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.960
<v Speaker 2>What is it? Then? Well? I don't know is it is?

1110
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 2>It is?

1111
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

1112
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it? Is it?

1113
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Murder? Something? Murdering something somebody?

1114
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I want? Yeah, I want it a little bit more specific.

1115
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you off with not the exact but what

1116
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:51.199
<v Speaker 2>is the mode of murder?

1117
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the mode of murder?

1118
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Like? How did how did this person? What did they do?

1119
00:55:57.599 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you have that.

1120
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Strangling somebody? Yeah?

1121
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Is it strangled his mistress with a belt?

1122
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Do I deserve that point?

1123
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you decide whether you deserve it.

1124
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've only got one point so far. They will say, yes,

1125
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.599
<v Speaker 1>if we could do half points, I have half a point.

1126
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:24.320
<v Speaker 2>For you.

1127
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.239
<v Speaker 1>What nickname was Webster known by during his winning streak.

1128
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 2>I know half of it. It's the line of something. Okay,

1129
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:39.079
<v Speaker 2>we don't guess, but I don't think it's right. It'll

1130
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:41.400
<v Speaker 2>be something like the Lion of the Bailey or something

1131
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:42.440
<v Speaker 2>that is exactly it.

1132
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<v Speaker 1>I was actually I was about to say, I'll let

1133
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<v Speaker 1>you have the Lion, because that's they call him the

1134
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:51.199
<v Speaker 1>line at one point as well. But no, you've got it.

1135
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:54.400
<v Speaker 1>You've got You've got the full one daily.

1136
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<v Speaker 2>Right last night of the problems, Where did Penny give

1137
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you sift two pounds?

1138
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 1>The graveyard of Saint Peter's Church?

1139
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:10.280
<v Speaker 2>No, okay, that was where she first met him outside

1140
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:14.480
<v Speaker 2>farm Foods. Okay, damn well, I'm glad you've got two

1141
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:16.079
<v Speaker 2>because I'm starting to feel like you're letting me win

1142
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:17.920
<v Speaker 2>it the No, I wouldn't do.

1143
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>That, trust me. I would say your final question, but

1144
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>not that it matters now. But what is the real

1145
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 1>title of the British Airways music by delib.

1146
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:35.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't fucking know. I genuinely haven't. I can't even

1147
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 2>get no, I don't know.

1148
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the flower duet?

1149
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow wow, I actually won one.

1150
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations. So the score was four to two, four to

1151
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>two to you, well done, thank you. I hope that

1152
00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:04.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't sound patronizing. I didn't mean it.

1153
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 2>But more importantly, we're twenty one to nineteen overall, are we?

1154
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh damn? Oh, you're actually catching up?

1155
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.559
<v Speaker 2>I am. That was what I was more concerned about overall.

1156
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Because at the end of this whole thing, we want

1157
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 1>to see who the ultimate victory is. Well, bring on

1158
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>series seven. That's what I say. That was fun.

1159
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:33.480
<v Speaker 2>That was fun.

1160
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I did shit today.

1161
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot more fun when you win, isn't it.

1162
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>How did you do at home? Yes? I doesn't know.

1163
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Are we too cruel to each other?

1164
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think that's it. That's series six wrapped up.

1165
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:56.280
<v Speaker 2>It is what percentage of the way through the series

1166
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:57.079
<v Speaker 2>are we? Stephen?

1167
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, shut up? Sixty six point six recurring?

1168
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, I almost pointed out that you've got it slightly

1169
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:10.159
<v Speaker 2>wrong earlier, but I was holding back my pedantry.

1170
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>No, but I just quoted literally what you said at

1171
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the time you said, so.

1172
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think I was just so happy that

1173
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:17.119
<v Speaker 2>you've got something wrong exactly.

1174
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>God were such nerds.

1175
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:25.920
<v Speaker 2>AnyWho.

1176
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:29.039
<v Speaker 1>So we'll be back in a couple of weeks or

1177
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks or whatever for series seven. We will

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00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:37.639
<v Speaker 1>indeed starting with merrily merrily. Yeah, But until then, I

1179
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:39.480
<v Speaker 1>think it's time to close the door on number nine.

1180
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:42.719
<v Speaker 2>We never really leave, do you.

1181
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to the Ninth Degree. If you'd like

1182
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to get in touch, you can find us on Instagram, Twitter,

1183
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and TikTok at ninth Degree Pod, or email us at

1184
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 1>ninth Degree Pod at gmail dot com. You can also

1185
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:02.280
<v Speaker 1>leave us a rating or review wherever you get your podcasts.

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01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.