Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.
Speaker 2: Colored a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.
Speaker 1: It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on.
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the pirate ship. I am so happy Danny
came in. I was feeling low and not low, just
like I got stuff going on, and you know, I
got a fifteen year old at home and or kind
of button heads on this whole idea, like, well, you know,
it's a little bit your fault. And I was like,
you know, I mean most of it's mine. And I
kind of pushed back. He said, no, none of this
is my fault, and we can't look at things in
life and do that. And I did say and I
never thought I would say this, but I'm like, look,
if you're a man, you you want to act like
a man and be a man. This is where it's
not that a woman can't. That's why I don't like
saying that.
Speaker 1: But I just said a man's version of an idea.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about being He'll say, you know,
I'm practically man. Yes you are. You're as big as
you're bigger than some men. Yeah, already the maid fifty
he didn't even think of the dude. Yeah. So I go, okay,
if that's the case, then you got to start taking
this stuff on. And he's really really doing well, like
changed a lot. This is a big stretch for him.
Speaker 1: Should I be bigger for my age? Now that I
think about Jamison? The fuck he's huge? No, Okay, okod
you're saying I was getting self conscious for all For
my gosh, Jameson really is huge.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I must have wasted all those years not lifting. No, Okay,
I hope it's just h I think it is. Okay,
carry on with Jamison.
Speaker 2: Yes, being a man. No, I'm just saying, like, if
you're gonna be the person in charge. And the reason
I don't like saying be a man is because I don't.
I don't want to discount women and I don't want.
Speaker 1: To Nobody, nobody think this podcast thinks you're saying that
unless you know somebody listen.
Speaker 2: I just said, I go, look, but you if you're
going to own it, you got to own this and
it's one hundred percent your stuff and it is your fault.
And I said, you see me and I have things
and I'm working on it. I'm quiet about it, and
I'm just moving forward. I don't need I don't need
people interfering with stuff. I've got to plan and I'm
working it and that's it. Own it and I'm not
looking for anybody to you know, and that's just the
way we got to do it. But when you start
coming in, oh, I didn't want to have this discussion,
and there's not that big a deal, I said, that's
not I'm not having the discussion about what you think
it's about. I'm talking about the overall idea of not
taking full responsibility and sharing some of the blame. I'm
going to share some of the well, some of it's
on you. Oh how right? Right? This was your whole venture,
your whole idea, from beginning to end. You got to
make it work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see Bill Gates go yeah, but Steve.
Speaker 2: Jobs say it and yes, I mean maybe at some point,
but I was just like so that it's just been
all that, and then Danny comes in here and I
got I could get up and hug you last night.
Speaker 1: Every podcast, every podcast before the podcast, I pray, Lord God,
let me be a blessing and not a jackass on
the podcast every time. Really, and I think God comes
back with what if we tried both?
Speaker 2: I don't think you're a jackass at all. I laughed, asked.
I laughed so hard at some of the stuff yesterday.
It was it was absolutely hysterical. Should we start out
with something tonight that has a little more teeth in it?
And by that I mean this is got very important. Well,
this has some teeth to it. And it's Rochester where
we do the We're in a suburb of Rochester, but
it's the biggest city by where we do the podcast.
And they've been making national news, and they've been making
national news because they're a sanctuary city, and I believe
have been since the mid nineties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw quasi motive just the other day. It's
quasi modive, the hunchback of another name sanctuary. Sorry I
went a long way for that.
Speaker 2: But the policies so people who are for sanctuary cities
feel like it builds trust between people who are coming
to this country and the police force. If I don't
feel like I'm going to be deported or I'm more
apt to calling crime. I will say, maybe I'm wrong
on this. I have looked up no stats to back
it up, but I would say most people coming to
this country, even if they're coming in illegally, aren't looking
to make trouble. They're looking to make a better life.
Does that mean they're all not looking to make trouble. No,
But I do think that the idea that a few
bad apples spoil the bunch spoils.
Speaker 1: The whole bunch. I really do these the bad apples
phrased and then they spoil the whole bunch.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I really do, because I think that we focus
on and I'm not saying, boy, horrible things have happened
to people that have to live with that stuff for
the rest of their lives. Uh.
Speaker 1: Don j Don Trump Junior got so much crap for
when Trump was president. The first time he said, if
I handed you a plate of skill or a bowl
of skittles and they said five percent of them were poisoned,
would you reach it into skittles and eat them? And
he got so much crap for that. But this point was,
these people aren't supposed to be here.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're tempting faint, I'll take it to something else.
But just to say these cities create create a haven.
A lot of people feel for undocumented immigrants who have
who have committed crime, making the communities less stuff less safe.
I look, I don't know that you could get any
less safe in Rochester no matter who came in. You
know what I'm saying, that city's already where well, I'm
not trying to be rude. I'm just saying that that's
sort of the thing. I do think that there is
an economic toll that is hard. I have a hard
time because it's human beings and I don't like seeing
human beings being mistreated. I just think that that's horrible.
So but I would say, yes, I agree, it's a
toll economically in that anybody who shows up at the
emergency room or whatever has to be seen, and it
is covered yep. And it's covered out of things. And
that's why sometimes local hospitals we have here maybe wherever
you're listening, the hospital does a fundraiser. Part of it
is to cover those costs. Yes, not always, but some
of it is usually that way.
Speaker 1: Not just those acronyms on the back of your pace.
Speaker 2: Now, No, and I think you know they've been Look,
sanctuary city has been targeted federally, especially under Trump, to
say we're not going to send any funding, uh, and
that there's going to be trouble for non compliance with
law enforcement. So that's where we are with Rochester. Rochester
had a traffic stop by ice and RPD responded to
the call as well. In sanctuary cities, the rule is
the police don't get involved with other law enforcement ice.
That's it is. That that's sort of in the city
charter or whatever. All right, I'm just trying to break
that down. That's how it works.
Speaker 1: So if so to the letter of the law, right,
they're not supposed to. But then there's this spirit, this camaraderie.
Speaker 2: No, I understand, right, I understand, and like, yes, I understand.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, we all share the same dunkin Donuts parking.
Speaker 2: Right right, And and it's less they're saying, it makes
it less safe. The city's left safe by preventing local
police from cooperating with federal immigration enforcement. Okay, So that
that that's where we are. So in Rochester that happened
and local police helped. The borders are is saying that
he's going to come to Rochester and he would like
to sit down with the mayor and others. Now, can
you take I don't know if can you? Can you
tell me because I don't know. And I and what
happened to the RPD officers. Were they suspended? Were they
given a day without pay?
Speaker 1: I don't know specific? Okay, sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't either. And I thought there was some kind of.
Speaker 1: Read there was a press conference about it.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I didn't know if there was a repercussion.
I don't know if there was repercussions. Okay, I don't
know that part. Okay, And I'm going there's something that
I'm leading up to with this. I thought there might
have been. Forgive me, as my life has been, as
all of our lives, every single person. This is why
your apartment no. But this is why I'm saying, well,
it's suspended for ninety days.
Speaker 1: The I tell Jabison, you gotta take your shoes off
before you walk in the apartment.
Speaker 2: The uh, I would say, like all of our lives
get so busy, every one of us. That's why we're
even putting out a condensed version so you can hear
some of it if you have less time. But the headlines,
like all we see are headlines, right.
Speaker 1: We don't read the story or we don't even have
any And by the way, the media know that and
will bait you into it if just believing the headline,
if you don't read the story, you gotta be aware
of that. And based on whatever website you're going to,
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'll read the story. Wait
a minute, that's not the shit.
Speaker 2: That's not what happened, right a few.
Speaker 1: There's these aggregators who go out if you know what,
you know what an aggregator is. They're not the person
like Brett Davidson is a reporter. Yes, an aggregator would
take what Brett Davidson did and then write a spin
story about it and take.
Speaker 2: Credit hand Brett Davidson is from Channel ten. No, no,
I know, I know it team. Yeah, no, I understand.
I think that he's been referred to as something else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard about this. Yeah, it starts with L
rhymes with user. Yes, of all people in Rochester, that guy.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. But here's the thing, I don't
know what happened with the RPD. They may have been.
I thought there was some kind of pushback. You're maybe
a suspension. Remember this, the chief serves at the pleasure
of the mayor. The mayor appoints who the chief is. Okay,
it's not an elected position. Its appointed by the chief
by the mayor, and so therefore really he kind of
is the mayor the lead over that. And the city
charter does say exactly what I just said. For sanctuary cities,
police do not get involved with ice. They're on their
own to take care of whatever. We don't get involved.
Speaker 1: Were for you, okay, Right.
Speaker 2: Two police officers I believe stopped and just helped get
them in a van. And I don't know, Okay, Brett Davidson.
They talked to the border Zar yesterday. Yes, And did
you see that interview. I didn't see the interview. I
saw that he talked to him. Okay, So he's been
They've been trying to get the mayor to talk to them,
and the mayor they feel like may have been ducking them.
I don't know Mayor Evans.
Speaker 1: But he came on this podcast once. By accidents, he
was he tripped over bied.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: So Mayor Evans was announcing party in the park and
they were at the Record Archive. It's a record store,
instrument store in the in the Greater Rochester area. And uh,
Brett went because he was going to be taking uh off,
I want to say, off issue questions, because it wasn't
take questions about other things other than party in the park.
And here is how.
Speaker 3: This morning, Mayor Malik Evans had a public event to
announce the party in the park line Ago and his
assistant said he'd be available for off topic questions afterward.
Speaker 2: Off topic questions. Okarett, you put that so succinctly.
Speaker 1: I like, I love Brett.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: But following the event, the mayor hastily started to leave,
was less than eager to talk with me and started
with the insults.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's it's I watched this. I don't mind
Malik Evans. I didn't mind him when he was the
school board. I know you don't like him. I don't
like him.
Speaker 1: I still like the city of Rochester in general. Okay,
right now, so I'm just watching this. As the mayor goes,
so goes the city.
Speaker 2: Well I always say so goes as the suburbs, and
so I just said with with mayor evans. Uh, I
want you to think of of I want you to
listen to it. I want you to listen to him.
And I understand, I think everybody can understand. But the
one thing I have said for many, many, many years
is adults need to learn to control their emotions. Okay,
so he keeps a lid on it, but does he
listen to this? Here we go.
Speaker 4: Question Brett, he's a loser.
Speaker 2: Brett, I don't talk to him. He's a loser.
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Like, right right there, I go, that's too that's too much.
Speaker 1: You went from zero to well one hundred in the
span of like a couple of seconds.
Speaker 2: But this is the same thing that I had the issue.
Remember we had the issue with Lovely Warren when we
were on the radio together. Yeah, we had her on
and she and I went back and forth.
Speaker 1: She came to the studio. Yeah, and then she immediately
before the MIC's were on, like, I didn't like what
you He goes and you said, to your credit, I
don't talk until the bikes around.
Speaker 2: Yes, I did say that. So to call Brett Davidson
a loser, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not It looks awful. It looks awful. And
it looks awful to a dude who has done so
much for the community as a professional, who has really
like helped Rochester. He and Berkeley bring both are like
the last of a dying breed of a reporter in Rochester.
And I mean, but just the respect is human beings.
You're a mayor, you can't.
Speaker 2: Tell the reason call him a loser? Is you he
did an interview that you didn't like. They wanted to
see it because the czar said he would sit down
with the mayor. And there's been no movement allegedly from
the mayor's office. But Malik Evans puts forward something that
I think is very valid in this but question, do
it quickly? I gotta go, do it quickly. I gotta go. Okay,
so Brett's just standing there. He's been called a loser
right right here? We go all right now? Quickly? Would
be what in your mind? What would quickly be if
if somebody's in a rut? Watch quickly?
Speaker 1: Well, real quick, mister mayor, is it truly are you
going to meet with the czar?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have you taken him up on his Uh.
Speaker 2: Give me a time length? How long would you expect
about a minute? Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the Tom Holman interview.
Did you watch it?
Speaker 2: No? I didn't watch it. Okay, no I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1: That wasn't No, I didn't watch it. No, I didn't
watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he said, what about it? If I didn't
watch it, wouldn't I say I didn't know you interviewed him?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, and now even if I watched it. Yeah, my
answer back, if it's me may Or Moran would say,
I know you talked to him.
Speaker 1: Well, he talked to him.
Speaker 2: What did he say? What did he say?
Speaker 3: Well, for starters, he said that he would be willing
to meet with you and the police.
Speaker 2: Now, the reason before anybody jumps on me because I
just did what do you say? The reason I'm saying
it that way is not to mimic our mock Malik Evans.
He doesn't speak this quickly. He's frustrated, his emotions. He's frustrating,
he's coming out of his basement. Call the guy loser
called that. He's talking quickly, he's agitated, just saying.
Speaker 3: If if that was something that you would be wanting
to do, and just wanted to ask you your thoughts
about that is that something that you would consider.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you here for Party in the Park. We're
gonna have a great show with Party in the Park.
Speaker 2: Win okay, but again even there, like if you could
almost just slow it down, you know what, Brett, I
probably you and I should speak about this another time.
What we're here to talk about partying in the park.
We're excited for partying in the park. I know News
TENANBC has been part of it, like that would be
my thing.
Speaker 4: But in terms of your question regarding Homan, I have
not talked to him. I've not heard that, and I
really don't respond the hypotheticals. And if we have something
to announce, you'll be the first one to know.
Speaker 2: Okay, but thank you. Okay, So now I would expect
that that would be it right if he turned on
his heels, even if Brett had to follow up, just
walk away.
Speaker 3: Ask you a couple other questions about what he had
to see.
Speaker 4: One more quick Brett, I got another, I got another
event I did not plan on your and you asked
the question move quickly.
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay. I'm just saying, like anybody, anybody in power,
you can be mad and you can go Look, guys,
I didn't like the way things were done or whatever,
but this is you know. Now, I'll try to explain
what I think the mayor means in a second, and
you can do thankt.
Speaker 3: Question well, he said. In talking about sanctuary cities, he says,
because they have to bring more resources into sanctuary cities
for the safety of their officers. That quote Rochester wants
to be a sanctuary city, they're gonna get exactly what
they don't want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, they're gonna get exactly what they don't want.
This is where they're talking about. And I don't know
if you can pull federal funding for non compliance with
immigration enforcement requests. I don't know that you can do that.
I don't I'm not sure in terms of federal I'm
not a lawyer. I don't know. That is a sticking point,
I think, but that that's sort of what the czar
was alluding to, right the borders are is basically go, oh,
they're gonna get what they want because you're not gonna
get any funding and we're not gonna help you. I
don't know what that means.
Speaker 4: I don't have the context of that, but let me
tell you something We always make sure that we support
any law enforcement person that comes in. We've made that clear.
I said what I said. I think you saw the release.
I would ask you to play that again.
Speaker 2: Okay, right there, Like even that I think is fine.
The way he's talking, he's he started slowing down, slowing down,
and he could be mad. Please don't take this as
you want to be to Bed. I don't have to
agree with you, but it is okay.
Speaker 1: So this part, I'm all right because Brett's doing his job,
the Mayor's trying trying to do his job.
Speaker 2: The loser stuff come on.
Speaker 4: Right, But again, we always back up off. We always
back up law enforcement. We always have Maplewood Park, other
murders and things that we have, we've had support from
other law enforcement officers. We will always support other law
enform enforcement officers. But in terms of the political element
of this, which I think Brett you might be a
part of. I think you're a part of this political
element that's happening.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it in personal I know it is. But
what I think he's saying is you're the only one
to interview this guy. Why did they get to you
to say that's that's what he's painting it as. Is
that true? I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think it's been talked about nationally, and it's very rare.
Speaker 1: That the bad gets accused of being on that side.
Well politics, Yeah, very rare. Yeah, unless they worked for Fox.
Speaker 2: Okay, right, right, seriously, sure, and I thought the mayor
up to that point was pretty good. But he's pissed, right, Yeah, Okay,
So here we go.
Speaker 4: We don't have for we don't I don't have time
for playing politics with policing or playing politics with public safety.
We have serious issues in this community that we have
to deal with, and that is what I am interested
in making sure that we.
Speaker 2: Take care of. Yeah. I don't know how you do it.
I mean, honest to god, I mean, as much as
we you know, go, how do we once we start
turning to the government to be our babysitters?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always felt that. Famously, President Regged say the
nine worst words you ever want to hear is hi,
I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess he did.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, I mean that's true. That should be your
last resort. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, now we have society
have over the last twenty five thirty years, have been
trained to go government first.
Speaker 2: We keep trying to look at him to go what
the fuck is going on? Because you're the mayor and
east End isn't what it used to be and this
isn't what it used to be, but it's not what
it used to be because crime has come in, right,
and you know, is it the catch? And really I
don't know the.
Speaker 4: Citizens of Rochester not playing politics with policing, not them
using Brett Davidson as a political hack to be able
to do that. We want to sure that we are
putting our residence.
Speaker 3: What is that supposed to mean using me as a political.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know, Brett. You have to go
back and ask, but I think that that's what I'm hearing.
I'm hearing that they're using what do you hear?
Speaker 1: Okay, anytime somebody I'm gonna for those of you listen
to this, anytime anybody ever uses the phrase what I'm
hearing is is an immediate red flag in business, in life,
Never use the phrase what I'm hearing is, because now
you're opening yourself up till you are making it all
about you. In your opinions.
Speaker 2: It also or or you're putting yourself in a hotspot.
But somebody goes, I want to know where you heard
this from? Yeah, because what if it's true? Now it
is interesting that only to just put a little light
on the mayor's point. I don't know that anybody else
in town has talked to the borders are So why
is Brett the piece that is that's what he's alluding to.
I don't think I think that's news. I think it
was a guy just doing his job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a pretty good idea. What because I
think that I gotta be careful saying this because I
got well, no, you don't want to be honest. I
know that everybody works hard at each station. Yeah, but
I think that you know right now, Brett and Berkeley
are Jennifer Luky I think her name.
Speaker 2: Is Yes, Yes, they're the most they're Yeah, they're.
Speaker 1: The only ones really reporting any freaking news.
Speaker 2: Listen to the other people are I'm.
Speaker 1: Not counting the anchors. No, No, I'm not talking about anchors.
I'm talking about the reporters.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I think most of the reporters are young and yeah,
and they don't know the city. These are people who
have built their lives here. Yeah, they have built their Nobody.
Speaker 1: Else The thirteen and Channel eight have a lot of
and I'm not knocking them. They're using Rochester to get
onto Cincinnati or Chicago or Dallas or what. They're not
They don't want to stay here. Maybe some of them do,
the anchors kind of do, but like I think, mostly
the reporters don't. It's like Rochester has now become like
an Erie Pennsylvania or an Elmira or Bill Binghamton, where
now this is not your second stop out of college,
this is off of your first stop out of college,
or you didn't get much many reps of the previous stop.
And so now the only person who's doing real actual
news are the guys who been always do a real
actional actual news.
Speaker 2: Here we go. It's just what I'm hearing. Who's they? You?
And and others that are Who's they? You?
Speaker 1: Whoday? Bengels?
Speaker 2: Who Day? But who's they? He said, Brett, because it's you. Uh,
I'm sure that that is an opinion of people. I
don't know that it's fact. And so if he's hearing
it and it makes sense to him, yeah, yeah, you
could see what that's what everybody. Oh are you hearing it?
Speaker 4: Probably probably the interview that you gave. But but again,
public safety is our number one priority. We have not
heard from the interview i mister Homan yet and again
we don't. We don't talk in hypotheticals. But if we
hear from him, we'll take it from there, and when
we have something to announce, we will make sure that
we announce it. But thank you very much, and thanks
for being at party in the park. I hope we
see everybody there starting in July.
Speaker 1: By the way, is do they have any original bands
playing at party?
Speaker 2: Was suggested for the record.
Speaker 3: I didn't speak to anyone about the interview with home
and nor did anyone facilitate that interview. I reached out
directly to Homeland Security in Washington inquiring about his willingness
to speak with us after he said he'd be coming
to Rochester, and I heard from their communications people within
ninety minutes.
Speaker 2: Wow, there you go. I mean, he just did what
a reporter does. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. That's what
That's what I mean. But can you see from the
mayor's point, the only reporter that talks it's an attack
against me. But we got to get out of that mindset.
If it's an attack against me, it's not. You are
a sanctuary city. There are these bylaws. I get it these,
but we're in a wild time right now. I don't
know what you do. bTB would fire piece and grill
in the mall of grease reads Danny. Oh, the food
is so good there and the brunch is phenomenal. And
I know that there was as of Monday, and we're
recording this on Wednesday, so you're running out of time.
There was only three reservations left for their Easter brunch.
And the reason I would suggest their brunch so much
more than any buffet brunches. It's not a buff at brunch.
No buffet food gets cold. Everybody else is there. Do
you ever look at the people in the buffet lines.
I mean, I don't mean rude. I'm just saying, but
this is when it's made for you. It's brought out
to you. And there's no Dixie plates that are like
the size of literally a frisbee. You've got the great
Belgian waffle with the cookies and cream. You've got a
burrito it's bigger than Baby Jesus and they put cheese
and it's big. I'm just saying it's big.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, and that and Matt he's like already
Buco will come to your table and say, hey, thanks
for coming on the place the food.
Speaker 2: I have to say I didn't know Matt Reeves very
well until we started doing the podcast. I'm very impressed
by that guy. Yeah, and he works and puts his
money where his mouth is. He does. They're short on
He's gone back of nights to help out. Yeah, you
know he runs it, but he's right in there along.
Speaker 1: He runs bTB the way the Dallas Cowboys are run
like financially they make a ton of money. Yes, they
don't win on the field, no, but they're a great business. Yes,
Matt Reese is a great businessman.
Speaker 2: Right, but and look baseball. You like going in and
catching a baseball game. They've even got TVs on their patio.
When the weather gets a little nicer, you can probably
sit out there.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a perfect place to watch the ball game.
Speaker 2: It is, it really is. I'm just saying bTB would
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New York. You know where Canton is, middle of the state. Yeah, yeah,
by Syracuse. Uh yeah, around there somewhere in the desolate
part of New Syracuse, Utica have about of farm stuff
and things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then is digital news desk. A former Sunny
Canton professor is accused of taking bribes from students in
exchange for higher grades. Eight forty five year old Rajiv
Narula of Canton on Tuesday, okay, cases eight felony accounts
of third degree bribery. According to court documents, Nirula is
accused of taking.
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Speaker 1: Was this last day, Rajiv Narula?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Narula of this Classrouitiv Rajiev Norula. Excuse me,
it's facing eight felony bribery.
Speaker 1: Counts felonies for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, welleting under the table cash payments in exchange for
higher grades, and I hope it was worth it because
how much are you paying? What can a college kid
pay you?
Speaker 1: Right? They don't even tip for pizza in a.
Speaker 2: Sunni school in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Could be mom and dad.
Speaker 2: Well yes, but I mean, oh, probably is mom and dad. Yeah.
So this went on in twenty twenty one and twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 1: Take to put you in the Jennifer business today.
Speaker 2: It was fired in twenty twenty three. Here's the broader issue,
the skyrocketing tuition that we see in colleges, to the
buying of access to elite schools. We had that whole scandal.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Lori Loughlan, Laurie Becky from Full House Yeah,
and Felicity Huffman I think yes, from Desperate Housewives.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were both like trying to like snowplow their kids.
They called them snowplow parents, snowplow their way for their
kid to get into USC.
Speaker 2: Access to elite schools in USC is a bit of
an academic It is yeah, and so you go, are
you surprised everything's so transactional with schools? Are you surprised
that this went on? Or or let me raise that
and go, this ain't the only place is probably happening?
Speaker 1: No, of course not, it's probably not do if you
get a bribe, you know, if you get the money
to bribe somebody at Sony Camp, you couldn't get into
like Penn State or something.
Speaker 2: Well, this is why gate, this is why I'm wondering, like, literally,
could it have been.
Speaker 1: He will save money on tuition at a Suny school?
Speaker 2: Could do you understand? What could it have been that low?
I want to know the dollar that's the thing. So
I remember a year bribe? We go, oh a second,
there was much.
Speaker 1: There was a college football coach I think that his
name is Rick Newhuis who ended up losing his job
because he was betting on an NCAA tournament pool. And
the question is, okay, but if the tournament pool is like,
what's the what's the dollar amount?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: If it's five dollars, a person in the winner wins
like two hundred and fifty bucks, who cares? But if
it's in the thoul, now we gotta like get some
respect over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the thing is that sounds like somebody
they want out. Yes, right, we need to find an excuse.
And here's the thing I want to know, how did
you find out who told you that he was taking bribes?
Did they set him up in some way?
Speaker 1: Brett Davidson said to his kid there, yeah, yeah, and
he did some investigative journalism. He wore the little Heraldo
camera and he went in and tried to bribe doctor Nirula.
Speaker 2: And it makes you wonder like, how about the students
that it didn't pay?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? What now? Okay is it okay.
Speaker 1: To put in an a paper here? But Becky here's
got to be but she's paying for an a so
uh you want a plus?
Speaker 2: Looking, the thing is like, what if he grades on
a Curve's where's the curve? Why wouldn't you let a
student make money? So this kid's really got to help
him out. Yeah, and then this kid goes twenty bucks
case of ber I don't know. I don't know because
I don't even wonder what happens to if this gets
out this in particular, sooning Sunny Canton, what happens to
the power of the degree over time.
Speaker 1: Well, it is sunny Canton, and up until today I
really had never heard of Sunny Canton. So no news
is bad news for Sunny Canton at this point.
Speaker 2: And there are words I didn't realize that you're not
allowed to say, Oh yeah at the master.
Speaker 1: You can't say garbage. Well, you have to say debris.
Speaker 2: I will admit to a weakness that I had today,
a very brief weakness. I had an appointment at four o'clock.
Where we live. There is a major expressway that is
down to one lane right after where you and I
went to college. If you don't get off there, you're
stuck for nearly half hour forty minutes depending. So I
got off and I went through the village of Pittsford,
and I thought, what do you think happens when I
go through the village of Pittsford.
Speaker 1: Stop at Thirsty.
Speaker 2: Yes, because I haven't been there in a very, very,
very long time. And I walk in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard there was like a poster of you
on the side of this thing. Oh yeah, have a
milk cart. I saw the owner, Dave Clifford. Briefly, he goes,
are you coming to going I go, actually I'm leaving.
I sat down and the bartender I know him, Ricky,
and I said, hey, Ricky, I got ten minutes and
I said, give me a half again.
Speaker 2: He goes, what the fuck is wrong with you? And
give me a whole guinness. So I had a guinness
and I watched some of the soccer. But I like
going there to watch the Masters and stuff, and.
Speaker 1: If there's some guy place in town to watch the Masters.
Speaker 2: In that place, some guy sitting next to me is
telling Ricky that either someone he knows or some coach
got kicked I don't know if he got kicked out,
but his student is playing in the Masters. Maybe it's
an amateur. I'm not sure they do let amateurs play.
There are certain parts of a Gust that you are
not allowed to wear shorts, and that's on the field
of play or or the course. Yeah you can if
you are a patron. They don't call them fans, you're patrons.
They don't have fanatics at Augusta. They patrons. So if
you're a patron, you can wear shorts. But I heard
that today that this guy, I don't know if he
got kicked out or just said you can't be here.
You can't be in this area.
Speaker 1: That that is true, because.
Speaker 2: Somebody goes, how did he get in then, and they said, well,
you can wear them. You can wear shorts as a patron,
but not in the galley. There is no such thing
as the rough. What do they call it, I don't
know what they call it, the second grass, the second grass.
So you know it's funny.
Speaker 1: Why because I kind of appreciate it. So they say,
like Augusta, the town itself is a dump. Is a dump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my cousin owns a couple of restaurants. There's thanks
for sitting there. Well, there are parts of it that
are very nice, but yes, overall.
Speaker 1: Overall yet, but the actual course, they say, it's like
a time warp. It's like going back to the fifties
in every sense you can imagine.
Speaker 2: Stop it.
Speaker 1: So when you go to pay for your food, you
can't use a credit card, paying cash. But the prices
are like nineteen fifties prices. Everything's incredibly cheap there except
for the attire, the gear and stuff that's those are
all kill prices, okay, But everything else, like you can't
have your phone. It's very quiet, it's very prim and proper.
You gotta get dressed for it. But it is like
a time warp going to Augusta. My brother in law
went there a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: What do they call the They don't say sand trap.
I don't know what they call it. Maybe obstacles, it.
Speaker 1: Could be I don't know's. There's usually a list of.
Speaker 2: What you can. You'll never hear that phrase while you're
watching the Masters. You will never hear them say sandtrap.
The back nine is another one that they don't say.
They may say the second nine.
Speaker 1: Okay. The only one I'm really sure about is garbage
versus debris. We don't get garbage, like Jim Nantz would such,
just some garbage floating out into the green and HOODI Johnson,
who was the president at the time, said Jim, we
don't have garbage at Augusta. We have debris.
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pleasure and stuff to the point where it's shamed, it's
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Speaker 1: Thanks Puritans.
Speaker 2: Would that be there to say?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 2: I just wonder like if you went to a sex therapist,
if you went and you had discussions with someone, or
you even went to a sexual surrogate, or you went
to one of these retreat type things, would it make
your life better? I don't know. I think that true
intimacy comes from real communication, right, That would be what
I think true intimacy comes from. You can be intimate,
physically intimate with somebody and have it mean nothing. But
then you can have real intimacy where you're communicating and
you know what that person likes and they know what
you like, and they do this and there's special things
and whatever. I just think that that's different. And apparently
there's one that's just for women, I think. And this
woman it was a three day women only orgasm retreat.
They learned how they did like rope bondage and stuff.
This chick said my name is so and so, and
I'm now into ropes. I'm looking for a man who
can die. That's what I'm saying. How much do you
think this is the game?
Speaker 1: A little?
Speaker 2: This three day woman only orgasm retreat in a California
desert went for ninety nine dollars three thousand. Pretty good,
Pretty good? Let me see here, so actual retail right, well,
I'm going to tell you everything you got. It's run
by Pamela Madson and her team of sex educators, also
known as perverts, blown sex educators, blown anatomy, demos, and
sensual rituals, all designed to help women reclaim pleasure, confidence,
and connection with their bodies with hands on practitioners like
court Vox, the only man allowed hand on practitioner. Uh
huh okay, seven and fifty dollars bought an intro experience
to what some pay fifteen thousand dollars for, but seven
fifty all right? If your wife said to you, Dan,
I'm gonna go to this it's women only orgasm retreat,
and I'm gonna spend seven hundred and fifty dollars of
our money. No, probably more than that, because I need
to fly to get there.
Speaker 1: What do you say, well, there better be a return
on that investment.
Speaker 2: II and ROI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if it's an investment, I want to return.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So wait, how much how much is of you
and your time? And her time is worth seven hundred
and fifty dollars. She could charge you that for one night.
Do you want to return on my investor?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, whatever techniques you're learning, you need to bring
her immediately home.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Some retreats costing fifteen thousand dollars. And according to
this woman, her name is Jana, and Jana did this,
she's a reporter. It wasn't just sex ed, it was
actually sexual awakening, she said, And is reclaiming sexuality becoming
a privilege of the wealthy because it's so expensive. What
does it mean when self discovery comes with the price
tag most can't afford? And that is sort of the thing.
Speaker 1: But that's where the world's headed. Yeah, yeah, because the
whole marketing thing is if it's expensive, it's gotta be great,
and if it's not expensive, it can't be worth it. Well,
that's what they've trained us to believe.
Speaker 2: That is a that isn't just a that's a real thing. Yes,
that's a real thing, and in certain circles it's a
real thing.
Speaker 1: Especially, you know, I could like Tony Robbins, right, is
a huge you know, I mean, the guy's the guy's
self made man, hundreds of millions of dollars being a
self help he does like being called a guru, but
a self help type of coach. And he's gotten into finance,
he's gotten into health, he's gotten into all kinds of things.
George Carlin always had a joke about Tony Robbins. He said,
if you spend the money to go to a Tone
Robin seminar, you don't need to go to a Tony
Robin seminar. Like, if you're motivated to go, you don't
need to go. Just put that moutomation towards whatever it
is you're chasing out there, right. And I think when
it comes to sexual stuff, if you the best things
and supposedly in life are free, you'll figure it out
if you want. You don't need to go to some
retreat to learn this stuff. But here's this other thing
that they have now that they didn't have before. YouTube.
Everything you want to learn, yes, can be foul.
Speaker 2: I don't think sexual stuff can, yeah, but they can
give you ideas though they ain't act it out, but
they can kind of like talk you through it. Yeah,
not that I would know. Fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's like one semester at Fisher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, for three days. Yeah, but your clytorist
gets more intention than your LinkedIn and you're actually happy
about that for once, rightfully, So my LinkedIn's getting someone.
Uh yeah, fifteen thousand dollars for I think most women
would say all I need is ten minutes a piece
and quiet without someone screaming mom, and I would be
set free. But I'm not sure. Yeah, the uh somebody,
there are.
Speaker 1: Some women who can't orgasm. There are some women.
Speaker 2: Who's men too. Seriously, Yeah, there's men that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't we talk to somebody about this?
Speaker 2: We did? Yes, yes, go on you say that?
Speaker 5: Have you?
Speaker 2: Is that the excuse of women have used with you?
Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 1: My Christianity will.
Speaker 2: Look at that?
Speaker 1: I think there's I think there are some women who
just can't do you know, because they've said so, They've told.
Speaker 2: Me, really, yes, that's what they're saying to you, Then
that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Years ago well, yeah, I know, let their fingers do the.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: The retreat filled Some people say it filled gaps between
sex said that we or gaps left by trade.
Speaker 1: Well, sex education is supposed to be education. Yes, it's
still taught in schools. It has to be done with
a certain element of class and sophistication. It can't just
be like all right, so now where he's a double sided.
Speaker 2: Well, you know somebody who's wrote in like why are
women learning about their bodies in their thirties, forties, fifties
or later. Well, the thing is because everything was shunned,
and I think you get to a certain point in
life and go, well, not of anybody's business.
Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is like when you're in your twenties,
you're usually with people in their twenties and they don't
know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Those what they're doing. That's what I'm saying, is to
get older and freer. Maybe going to one of those
things could be Some people say that it was a
very healing for them through erotic practices, which is odd, right,
because if you had trauma, neglect, shame, disconnection, and it
does raise the question could sensuality and erotic play be
legitimate therapeutic tools, and the thing would be better. Not
I don't want to find out it would be creepy.
That's how guys get arrested. That's how it's usually the male. Yes, hey,
you know what you need is an whatever?
Speaker 1: Right, let me help you out.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you like that. I'd like the fact
that we separate sex and healing. Little Yeah, I would think, yes,
that's that's all. But you'd be okay. If Beth wanted
to go to one, I don't know. I think it
might be interesting if I went with her, But it's
a women's only.
Speaker 1: I don't see. That's that just invites trouble. You're opening
the door for trouble.
Speaker 2: What do you mean your.
Speaker 1: Vom Yeah, that's wait, how are we doing that?
Speaker 2: How?
Speaker 1: I just I just, you know, women get.
Speaker 2: I don't know how women.
Speaker 1: So I we'll think about how men get when they're
together on they're all going on trips stuff.
Speaker 2: We just get drunk. Oh, I see what you're saying.
He's needing like hooking up with other people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a whole lot of that, especially marry guys.
I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it with marry guys.
Speaker 2: But I know that guys, guys do single women single women.
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, like you know, you gotta
explain yourself again, you gotta go back to the days.
Well they kind of unlocked that. Not a little trust
my wife. I'm just say, why invite that temptation?
Speaker 2: O God?
Speaker 1: But if she came back like more renaissances.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. What if she came back and
they did a whole rope thing, she got a whole
rope thing.
Speaker 1: She ties me up that she goes take account exactly.
Speaker 5: I got it.
Speaker 2: I just looked at the time. I got it. It's
a little stuff I gotta take care of. But we
went along with the Brett segment. We did about our
average time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I mean I understand Mayor Evans' concerns, but
there was no reason to.
Speaker 2: Do that to Brett. Who's mel Novak? I don't know,
and he's dead. Oh okay, he died. Yeah, I just
got a team.
Speaker 1: Is that Kim Novak's husband that said mel Novak?
Speaker 2: Let's see mel Novak. Oh, it looks familiar, remembering mel
Novak Hollywood actor.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that the planet Alf was from mel Novak? What
I was Melman.
Speaker 2: He was uh best known for his starring role in
Bruce Lee's classic Game of Death. I don't know, No,
I don't remember. If that, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's in Peace broke.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what. The Game of Death walk took a while. Yeah, yeah,
I wonder if it was Kim Novak's dead somewhere outside.
All right, for Dan Barrillo, Beth go on that retreat.
I'm Bill Moran. Tell yourself, we'll see tomorrow.
Speaker 5: He was up.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't