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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka.

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Speaker 2: Colored a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio

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in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.

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Speaker 1: It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on.

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the

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word about the pirate ship. I am so happy Danny

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came in. I was feeling low and not low, just

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like I got stuff going on, and you know, I

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got a fifteen year old at home and or kind

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of button heads on this whole idea, like, well, you know,

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it's a little bit your fault. And I was like,

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you know, I mean most of it's mine. And I

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kind of pushed back. He said, no, none of this

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is my fault, and we can't look at things in

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life and do that. And I did say and I

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never thought I would say this, but I'm like, look,

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if you're a man, you you want to act like

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a man and be a man. This is where it's

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not that a woman can't. That's why I don't like

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saying that.

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Speaker 1: But I just said a man's version of an idea.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about being He'll say, you know,

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I'm practically man. Yes you are. You're as big as

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you're bigger than some men. Yeah, already the maid fifty

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he didn't even think of the dude. Yeah. So I go, okay,

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if that's the case, then you got to start taking

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this stuff on. And he's really really doing well, like

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changed a lot. This is a big stretch for him.

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Speaker 1: Should I be bigger for my age? Now that I

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think about Jamison? The fuck he's huge? No, Okay, okod

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you're saying I was getting self conscious for all For

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my gosh, Jameson really is huge.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I must have wasted all those years not lifting. No, Okay,

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I hope it's just h I think it is. Okay,

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carry on with Jamison.

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Speaker 2: Yes, being a man. No, I'm just saying, like, if

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you're gonna be the person in charge. And the reason

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I don't like saying be a man is because I don't.

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I don't want to discount women and I don't want.

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Speaker 1: To Nobody, nobody think this podcast thinks you're saying that

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unless you know somebody listen.

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Speaker 2: I just said, I go, look, but you if you're

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going to own it, you got to own this and

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it's one hundred percent your stuff and it is your fault.

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And I said, you see me and I have things

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and I'm working on it. I'm quiet about it, and

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I'm just moving forward. I don't need I don't need

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people interfering with stuff. I've got to plan and I'm

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working it and that's it. Own it and I'm not

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looking for anybody to you know, and that's just the

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way we got to do it. But when you start

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coming in, oh, I didn't want to have this discussion,

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and there's not that big a deal, I said, that's

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not I'm not having the discussion about what you think

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it's about. I'm talking about the overall idea of not

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taking full responsibility and sharing some of the blame. I'm

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going to share some of the well, some of it's

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on you. Oh how right? Right? This was your whole venture,

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your whole idea, from beginning to end. You got to

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make it work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see Bill Gates go yeah, but Steve.

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Speaker 2: Jobs say it and yes, I mean maybe at some point,

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but I was just like so that it's just been

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all that, and then Danny comes in here and I

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got I could get up and hug you last night.

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Speaker 1: Every podcast, every podcast before the podcast, I pray, Lord God,

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let me be a blessing and not a jackass on

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the podcast every time. Really, and I think God comes

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back with what if we tried both?

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're a jackass at all. I laughed, asked.

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I laughed so hard at some of the stuff yesterday.

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It was it was absolutely hysterical. Should we start out

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with something tonight that has a little more teeth in it?

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And by that I mean this is got very important. Well,

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this has some teeth to it. And it's Rochester where

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we do the We're in a suburb of Rochester, but

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it's the biggest city by where we do the podcast.

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And they've been making national news, and they've been making

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national news because they're a sanctuary city, and I believe

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have been since the mid nineties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw quasi motive just the other day. It's

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quasi modive, the hunchback of another name sanctuary. Sorry I

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went a long way for that.

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Speaker 2: But the policies so people who are for sanctuary cities

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feel like it builds trust between people who are coming

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to this country and the police force. If I don't

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feel like I'm going to be deported or I'm more

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apt to calling crime. I will say, maybe I'm wrong

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on this. I have looked up no stats to back

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it up, but I would say most people coming to

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this country, even if they're coming in illegally, aren't looking

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to make trouble. They're looking to make a better life.

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But I do think that the idea that a few

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bad apples spoil the bunch spoils.

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Speaker 1: The whole bunch. I really do these the bad apples

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phrased and then they spoil the whole bunch.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I really do, because I think that we focus

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on and I'm not saying, boy, horrible things have happened

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to people that have to live with that stuff for

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the rest of their lives. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Don j Don Trump Junior got so much crap for

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when Trump was president. The first time he said, if

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I handed you a plate of skill or a bowl

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of skittles and they said five percent of them were poisoned,

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would you reach it into skittles and eat them? And

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he got so much crap for that. But this point was,

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these people aren't supposed to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're tempting faint, I'll take it to something else.

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But just to say these cities create create a haven.

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A lot of people feel for undocumented immigrants who have

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who have committed crime, making the communities less stuff less safe.

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I look, I don't know that you could get any

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less safe in Rochester no matter who came in. You

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know what I'm saying, that city's already where well, I'm

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not trying to be rude. I'm just saying that that's

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sort of the thing. I do think that there is

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an economic toll that is hard. I have a hard

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time because it's human beings and I don't like seeing

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human beings being mistreated. I just think that that's horrible.

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So but I would say, yes, I agree, it's a

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toll economically in that anybody who shows up at the

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emergency room or whatever has to be seen, and it

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is covered yep. And it's covered out of things. And

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that's why sometimes local hospitals we have here maybe wherever

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you're listening, the hospital does a fundraiser. Part of it

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is to cover those costs. Yes, not always, but some

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of it is usually that way.

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Speaker 1: Not just those acronyms on the back of your pace.

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Speaker 2: Now, No, and I think you know they've been Look,

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sanctuary city has been targeted federally, especially under Trump, to

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say we're not going to send any funding, uh, and

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that there's going to be trouble for non compliance with

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law enforcement. So that's where we are with Rochester. Rochester

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the call as well. In sanctuary cities, the rule is

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the police don't get involved with other law enforcement ice.

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That's it is. That that's sort of in the city

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charter or whatever. All right, I'm just trying to break

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that down. That's how it works.

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Speaker 1: So if so to the letter of the law, right,

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they're not supposed to. But then there's this spirit, this camaraderie.

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Speaker 2: No, I understand, right, I understand, and like, yes, I understand.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, we all share the same dunkin Donuts parking.

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Speaker 2: Right right, And and it's less they're saying, it makes

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it less safe. The city's left safe by preventing local

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police from cooperating with federal immigration enforcement. Okay, So that

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that that's where we are. So in Rochester that happened

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and local police helped. The borders are is saying that

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he's going to come to Rochester and he would like

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to sit down with the mayor and others. Now, can

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you take I don't know if can you? Can you

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tell me because I don't know. And I and what

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happened to the RPD officers. Were they suspended? Were they

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given a day without pay?

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Speaker 1: I don't know specific? Okay, sorry, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. And I thought there was some kind of.

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Speaker 1: Read there was a press conference about it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I didn't know if there was a repercussion.

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I don't know if there was repercussions. Okay, I don't

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know that part. Okay, And I'm going there's something that

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I'm leading up to with this. I thought there might

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have been. Forgive me, as my life has been, as

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all of our lives, every single person. This is why

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your apartment no. But this is why I'm saying, well,

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it's suspended for ninety days.

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Speaker 1: The I tell Jabison, you gotta take your shoes off

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before you walk in the apartment.

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Speaker 2: The uh, I would say, like all of our lives

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get so busy, every one of us. That's why we're

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even putting out a condensed version so you can hear

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some of it if you have less time. But the headlines,

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like all we see are headlines, right.

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Speaker 1: We don't read the story or we don't even have

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any And by the way, the media know that and

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will bait you into it if just believing the headline,

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if you don't read the story, you gotta be aware

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of that. And based on whatever website you're going to,

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I'm like, oh my gosh, I'll read the story. Wait

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a minute, that's not the shit.

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Speaker 2: That's not what happened, right a few.

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Speaker 1: There's these aggregators who go out if you know what,

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you know what an aggregator is. They're not the person

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like Brett Davidson is a reporter. Yes, an aggregator would

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take what Brett Davidson did and then write a spin

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story about it and take.

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Speaker 2: Credit hand Brett Davidson is from Channel ten. No, no,

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I know, I know it team. Yeah, no, I understand.

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I think that he's been referred to as something else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard about this. Yeah, it starts with L

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rhymes with user. Yes, of all people in Rochester, that guy.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. But here's the thing, I don't

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know what happened with the RPD. They may have been.

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I thought there was some kind of pushback. You're maybe

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a suspension. Remember this, the chief serves at the pleasure

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of the mayor. The mayor appoints who the chief is. Okay,

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it's not an elected position. Its appointed by the chief

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by the mayor, and so therefore really he kind of

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is the mayor the lead over that. And the city

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charter does say exactly what I just said. For sanctuary cities,

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police do not get involved with ice. They're on their

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own to take care of whatever. We don't get involved.

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Speaker 1: Were for you, okay, Right.

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Speaker 2: Two police officers I believe stopped and just helped get

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them in a van. And I don't know, Okay, Brett Davidson.

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They talked to the border Zar yesterday. Yes, And did

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you see that interview. I didn't see the interview. I

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saw that he talked to him. Okay, So he's been

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They've been trying to get the mayor to talk to them,

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and the mayor they feel like may have been ducking them.

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I don't know Mayor Evans.

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Speaker 1: But he came on this podcast once. By accidents, he

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was he tripped over bied.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So Mayor Evans was announcing party in the park and

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they were at the Record Archive. It's a record store,

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instrument store in the in the Greater Rochester area. And uh,

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Brett went because he was going to be taking uh off,

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I want to say, off issue questions, because it wasn't

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take questions about other things other than party in the park.

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And here is how.

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Speaker 3: This morning, Mayor Malik Evans had a public event to

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announce the party in the park line Ago and his

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assistant said he'd be available for off topic questions afterward.

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Speaker 2: Off topic questions. Okarett, you put that so succinctly.

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Speaker 1: I like, I love Brett.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 3: But following the event, the mayor hastily started to leave,

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was less than eager to talk with me and started

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with the insults.

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Malik Evans. I didn't mind him when he was the

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school board. I know you don't like him. I don't

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like him.

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Speaker 1: I still like the city of Rochester in general. Okay,

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right now, so I'm just watching this. As the mayor goes,

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so goes the city.

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Speaker 2: Well I always say so goes as the suburbs, and

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so I just said with with mayor evans. Uh, I

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want you to think of of I want you to

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listen to it. I want you to listen to him.

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And I understand, I think everybody can understand. But the

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one thing I have said for many, many, many years

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is adults need to learn to control their emotions. Okay,

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so he keeps a lid on it, but does he

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listen to this? Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Question Brett, he's a loser.

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Speaker 2: Brett, I don't talk to him. He's a loser.

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: Like, right right there, I go, that's too that's too much.

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Speaker 1: You went from zero to well one hundred in the

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span of like a couple of seconds.

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Speaker 2: But this is the same thing that I had the issue.

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Remember we had the issue with Lovely Warren when we

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were on the radio together. Yeah, we had her on

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and she and I went back and forth.

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Speaker 1: She came to the studio. Yeah, and then she immediately

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before the MIC's were on, like, I didn't like what

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you He goes and you said, to your credit, I

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don't talk until the bikes around.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did say that. So to call Brett Davidson

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a loser, Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not It looks awful. It looks awful. And

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it looks awful to a dude who has done so

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much for the community as a professional, who has really

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like helped Rochester. He and Berkeley bring both are like

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the last of a dying breed of a reporter in Rochester.

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And I mean, but just the respect is human beings.

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You're a mayor, you can't.

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Speaker 2: Tell the reason call him a loser? Is you he

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did an interview that you didn't like. They wanted to

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see it because the czar said he would sit down

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with the mayor. And there's been no movement allegedly from

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the mayor's office. But Malik Evans puts forward something that

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I think is very valid in this but question, do

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it quickly? I gotta go, do it quickly. I gotta go. Okay,

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so Brett's just standing there. He's been called a loser

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right right here? We go all right now? Quickly? Would

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be what in your mind? What would quickly be if

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if somebody's in a rut? Watch quickly?

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Speaker 1: Well, real quick, mister mayor, is it truly are you

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going to meet with the czar?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Have you taken him up on his Uh.

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Speaker 2: Give me a time length? How long would you expect

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about a minute? Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the Tom Holman interview.

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Did you watch it?

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Speaker 2: No? I didn't watch it. Okay, no I didn't watch it.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't No, I didn't watch it. No, I didn't

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watch it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he said, what about it? If I didn't

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watch it, wouldn't I say I didn't know you interviewed him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, and now even if I watched it. Yeah, my

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answer back, if it's me may Or Moran would say,

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I know you talked to him.

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Speaker 1: Well, he talked to him.

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Speaker 2: What did he say? What did he say?

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Speaker 3: Well, for starters, he said that he would be willing

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to meet with you and the police.

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Speaker 2: Now, the reason before anybody jumps on me because I

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just did what do you say? The reason I'm saying

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it that way is not to mimic our mock Malik Evans.

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He doesn't speak this quickly. He's frustrated, his emotions. He's frustrating,

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he's coming out of his basement. Call the guy loser

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called that. He's talking quickly, he's agitated, just saying.

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Speaker 3: If if that was something that you would be wanting

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to do, and just wanted to ask you your thoughts

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about that is that something that you would consider.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you here for Party in the Park. We're

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gonna have a great show with Party in the Park.

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Speaker 2: Win okay, but again even there, like if you could

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almost just slow it down, you know what, Brett, I

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probably you and I should speak about this another time.

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What we're here to talk about partying in the park.

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We're excited for partying in the park. I know News

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TENANBC has been part of it, like that would be

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my thing.

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Speaker 4: But in terms of your question regarding Homan, I have

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not talked to him. I've not heard that, and I

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really don't respond the hypotheticals. And if we have something

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to announce, you'll be the first one to know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but thank you. Okay, So now I would expect

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that that would be it right if he turned on

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his heels, even if Brett had to follow up, just

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walk away.

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Speaker 3: Ask you a couple other questions about what he had

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to see.

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Speaker 4: One more quick Brett, I got another, I got another

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event I did not plan on your and you asked

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the question move quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay. I'm just saying, like anybody, anybody in power,

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you can be mad and you can go Look, guys,

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I didn't like the way things were done or whatever,

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but this is you know. Now, I'll try to explain

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what I think the mayor means in a second, and

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you can do thankt.

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Speaker 3: Question well, he said. In talking about sanctuary cities, he says,

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because they have to bring more resources into sanctuary cities

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for the safety of their officers. That quote Rochester wants

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to be a sanctuary city, they're gonna get exactly what

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they don't want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, they're gonna get exactly what they don't want.

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This is where they're talking about. And I don't know

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if you can pull federal funding for non compliance with

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immigration enforcement requests. I don't know that you can do that.

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I don't I'm not sure in terms of federal I'm

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not a lawyer. I don't know. That is a sticking point,

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I think, but that that's sort of what the czar

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was alluding to, right the borders are is basically go, oh,

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they're gonna get what they want because you're not gonna

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get any funding and we're not gonna help you. I

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don't know what that means.

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Speaker 4: I don't have the context of that, but let me

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tell you something We always make sure that we support

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any law enforcement person that comes in. We've made that clear.

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I said what I said. I think you saw the release.

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I would ask you to play that again.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right there, Like even that I think is fine.

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The way he's talking, he's he started slowing down, slowing down,

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and he could be mad. Please don't take this as

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you want to be to Bed. I don't have to

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agree with you, but it is okay.

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Speaker 1: So this part, I'm all right because Brett's doing his job,

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the Mayor's trying trying to do his job.

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Speaker 2: The loser stuff come on.

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Speaker 4: Right, But again, we always back up off. We always

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back up law enforcement. We always have Maplewood Park, other

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murders and things that we have, we've had support from

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other law enforcement officers. We will always support other law

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enform enforcement officers. But in terms of the political element

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of this, which I think Brett you might be a

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part of. I think you're a part of this political

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element that's happening.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's it in personal I know it is. But

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what I think he's saying is you're the only one

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to interview this guy. Why did they get to you

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to say that's that's what he's painting it as. Is

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that true? I don't think so. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been talked about nationally, and it's very rare.

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Speaker 1: That the bad gets accused of being on that side.

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Well politics, Yeah, very rare. Yeah, unless they worked for Fox.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, right, seriously, sure, and I thought the mayor

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up to that point was pretty good. But he's pissed, right, Yeah, Okay,

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So here we go.

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Speaker 4: We don't have for we don't I don't have time

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for playing politics with policing or playing politics with public safety.

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We have serious issues in this community that we have

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to deal with, and that is what I am interested

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in making sure that we.

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Speaker 2: Take care of. Yeah. I don't know how you do it.

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I mean, honest to god, I mean, as much as

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we you know, go, how do we once we start

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turning to the government to be our babysitters?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always felt that. Famously, President Regged say the

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nine worst words you ever want to hear is hi,

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I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess he did.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, I mean that's true. That should be your

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last resort. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, now we have society

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have over the last twenty five thirty years, have been

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trained to go government first.

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Speaker 2: We keep trying to look at him to go what

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the fuck is going on? Because you're the mayor and

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east End isn't what it used to be and this

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isn't what it used to be, but it's not what

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it used to be because crime has come in, right,

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and you know, is it the catch? And really I

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don't know the.

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Speaker 4: Citizens of Rochester not playing politics with policing, not them

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using Brett Davidson as a political hack to be able

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to do that. We want to sure that we are

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putting our residence.

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Speaker 3: What is that supposed to mean using me as a political.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't know, Brett. You have to go

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back and ask, but I think that that's what I'm hearing.

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I'm hearing that they're using what do you hear?

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Speaker 1: Okay, anytime somebody I'm gonna for those of you listen

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to this, anytime anybody ever uses the phrase what I'm

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hearing is is an immediate red flag in business, in life,

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Never use the phrase what I'm hearing is, because now

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you're opening yourself up till you are making it all

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about you. In your opinions.

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Speaker 2: It also or or you're putting yourself in a hotspot.

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But somebody goes, I want to know where you heard

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this from? Yeah, because what if it's true? Now it

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is interesting that only to just put a little light

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on the mayor's point. I don't know that anybody else

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in town has talked to the borders are So why

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is Brett the piece that is that's what he's alluding to.

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I don't think I think that's news. I think it

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was a guy just doing his job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a pretty good idea. What because I

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think that I gotta be careful saying this because I

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got well, no, you don't want to be honest. I

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know that everybody works hard at each station. Yeah, but

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I think that you know right now, Brett and Berkeley

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are Jennifer Luky I think her name.

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Speaker 2: Is Yes, Yes, they're the most they're Yeah, they're.

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Speaker 1: The only ones really reporting any freaking news.

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Speaker 2: Listen to the other people are I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not counting the anchors. No, No, I'm not talking about anchors.

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I'm talking about the reporters.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I think most of the reporters are young and yeah,

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and they don't know the city. These are people who

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have built their lives here. Yeah, they have built their Nobody.

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Speaker 1: Else The thirteen and Channel eight have a lot of

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and I'm not knocking them. They're using Rochester to get

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onto Cincinnati or Chicago or Dallas or what. They're not

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They don't want to stay here. Maybe some of them do,

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the anchors kind of do, but like I think, mostly

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the reporters don't. It's like Rochester has now become like

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an Erie Pennsylvania or an Elmira or Bill Binghamton, where

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now this is not your second stop out of college,

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this is off of your first stop out of college,

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or you didn't get much many reps of the previous stop.

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And so now the only person who's doing real actual

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news are the guys who been always do a real

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actional actual news.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. It's just what I'm hearing. Who's they? You?

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And and others that are Who's they? You?

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Speaker 1: Whoday? Bengels?

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Speaker 2: Who Day? But who's they? He said, Brett, because it's you. Uh,

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I'm sure that that is an opinion of people. I

472
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don't know that it's fact. And so if he's hearing

473
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it and it makes sense to him, yeah, yeah, you

474
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could see what that's what everybody. Oh are you hearing it?

475
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Speaker 4: Probably probably the interview that you gave. But but again,

476
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public safety is our number one priority. We have not

477
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heard from the interview i mister Homan yet and again

478
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we don't. We don't talk in hypotheticals. But if we

479
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hear from him, we'll take it from there, and when

480
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we have something to announce, we will make sure that

481
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we announce it. But thank you very much, and thanks

482
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for being at party in the park. I hope we

483
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see everybody there starting in July.

484
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Speaker 1: By the way, is do they have any original bands

485
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playing at party?

486
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Speaker 2: Was suggested for the record.

487
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Speaker 3: I didn't speak to anyone about the interview with home

488
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and nor did anyone facilitate that interview. I reached out

489
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directly to Homeland Security in Washington inquiring about his willingness

490
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to speak with us after he said he'd be coming

491
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to Rochester, and I heard from their communications people within

492
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ninety minutes.

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Speaker 2: Wow, there you go. I mean, he just did what

494
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a reporter does. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. That's what

495
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That's what I mean. But can you see from the

496
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mayor's point, the only reporter that talks it's an attack

497
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against me. But we got to get out of that mindset.

498
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If it's an attack against me, it's not. You are

499
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a sanctuary city. There are these bylaws. I get it these,

500
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but we're in a wild time right now. I don't

501
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know what you do. bTB would fire piece and grill

502
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in the mall of grease reads Danny. Oh, the food

503
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is so good there and the brunch is phenomenal. And

504
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I know that there was as of Monday, and we're

505
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recording this on Wednesday, so you're running out of time.

506
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There was only three reservations left for their Easter brunch.

507
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And the reason I would suggest their brunch so much

508
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more than any buffet brunches. It's not a buff at brunch.

509
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No buffet food gets cold. Everybody else is there. Do

510
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you ever look at the people in the buffet lines.

511
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I mean, I don't mean rude. I'm just saying, but

512
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this is when it's made for you. It's brought out

513
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to you. And there's no Dixie plates that are like

514
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the size of literally a frisbee. You've got the great

515
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Belgian waffle with the cookies and cream. You've got a

516
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burrito it's bigger than Baby Jesus and they put cheese

517
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and it's big. I'm just saying it's big.

518
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Speaker 1: Yes, I know, and that and Matt he's like already

519
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Buco will come to your table and say, hey, thanks

520
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for coming on the place the food.

521
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Speaker 2: I have to say I didn't know Matt Reeves very

522
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well until we started doing the podcast. I'm very impressed

523
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by that guy. Yeah, and he works and puts his

524
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money where his mouth is. He does. They're short on

525
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He's gone back of nights to help out. Yeah, you

526
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,720
know he runs it, but he's right in there along.

527
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Speaker 1: He runs bTB the way the Dallas Cowboys are run

528
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like financially they make a ton of money. Yes, they

529
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don't win on the field, no, but they're a great business. Yes,

530
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Matt Reese is a great businessman.

531
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Speaker 2: Right, but and look baseball. You like going in and

532
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:31,559
catching a baseball game. They've even got TVs on their patio.

533
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When the weather gets a little nicer, you can probably

534
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sit out there.

535
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Speaker 1: Oh that's a perfect place to watch the ball game.

536
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Speaker 2: It is, it really is. I'm just saying bTB would

537
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fire Piston grill. It is in the mall at Greece Ridge.

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a side gig. Here's a very boring reporter from Canton,

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New York. You know where Canton is, middle of the state. Yeah, yeah,

563
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by Syracuse. Uh yeah, around there somewhere in the desolate

564
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part of New Syracuse, Utica have about of farm stuff

565
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and things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then is digital news desk. A former Sunny

567
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Canton professor is accused of taking bribes from students in

568
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exchange for higher grades. Eight forty five year old Rajiv

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Narula of Canton on Tuesday, okay, cases eight felony accounts

570
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of third degree bribery. According to court documents, Nirula is

571
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accused of taking.

572
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Speaker 2: Hey, folks, I'd like to on our first day, I

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Speaker 1: Was this last day, Rajiv Narula?

576
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Narula of this Classrouitiv Rajiev Norula. Excuse me,

577
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it's facing eight felony bribery.

578
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Speaker 1: Counts felonies for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, welleting under the table cash payments in exchange for

580
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higher grades, and I hope it was worth it because

581
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how much are you paying? What can a college kid

582
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pay you?

583
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,079
Speaker 1: Right? They don't even tip for pizza in a.

584
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Speaker 2: Sunni school in the middle of nowhere.

585
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Speaker 1: Could be mom and dad.

586
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:16,559
Speaker 2: Well yes, but I mean, oh, probably is mom and dad. Yeah.

587
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So this went on in twenty twenty one and twenty

588
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twenty two.

589
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Speaker 1: Take to put you in the Jennifer business today.

590
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Speaker 2: It was fired in twenty twenty three. Here's the broader issue,

591
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the skyrocketing tuition that we see in colleges, to the

592
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buying of access to elite schools. We had that whole scandal.

593
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Lori Loughlan, Laurie Becky from Full House Yeah,

594
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and Felicity Huffman I think yes, from Desperate Housewives.

595
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

596
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were both like trying to like snowplow their kids.

597
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They called them snowplow parents, snowplow their way for their

598
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kid to get into USC.

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Speaker 2: Access to elite schools in USC is a bit of

600
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an academic It is yeah, and so you go, are

601
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:05,039
you surprised everything's so transactional with schools? Are you surprised

602
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that this went on? Or or let me raise that

603
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and go, this ain't the only place is probably happening?

604
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Speaker 1: No, of course not, it's probably not do if you

605
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get a bribe, you know, if you get the money

606
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to bribe somebody at Sony Camp, you couldn't get into

607
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:21,960
like Penn State or something.

608
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Speaker 2: Well, this is why gate, this is why I'm wondering, like, literally,

609
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could it have been.

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Speaker 1: He will save money on tuition at a Suny school?

611
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Speaker 2: Could do you understand? What could it have been that low?

612
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,440
I want to know the dollar that's the thing. So

613
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:39,519
I remember a year bribe? We go, oh a second,

614
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:40,119
there was much.

615
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Speaker 1: There was a college football coach I think that his

616
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name is Rick Newhuis who ended up losing his job

617
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because he was betting on an NCAA tournament pool. And

618
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,240
the question is, okay, but if the tournament pool is like,

619
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what's the what's the dollar amount?

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Speaker 2: Right?

621
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Speaker 1: If it's five dollars, a person in the winner wins

622
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like two hundred and fifty bucks, who cares? But if

623
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,680
it's in the thoul, now we gotta like get some

624
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:02,440
respect over it.

625
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the thing is that sounds like somebody

626
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:08,279
they want out. Yes, right, we need to find an excuse.

627
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And here's the thing I want to know, how did

628
00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:14,680
you find out who told you that he was taking bribes?

629
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,119
Did they set him up in some way?

630
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: Brett Davidson said to his kid there, yeah, yeah, and

631
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,079
he did some investigative journalism. He wore the little Heraldo

632
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:29,440
camera and he went in and tried to bribe doctor Nirula.

633
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Speaker 2: And it makes you wonder like, how about the students

634
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:32,559
that it didn't pay?

635
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

636
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? What now? Okay is it okay.

637
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,759
Speaker 1: To put in an a paper here? But Becky here's

638
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got to be but she's paying for an a so

639
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:43,480
uh you want a plus?

640
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Speaker 2: Looking, the thing is like, what if he grades on

641
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,519
a Curve's where's the curve? Why wouldn't you let a

642
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:56,720
student make money? So this kid's really got to help

643
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,519
him out. Yeah, and then this kid goes twenty bucks

644
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,640
case of ber I don't know. I don't know because

645
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,400
I don't even wonder what happens to if this gets

646
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:12,640
out this in particular, sooning Sunny Canton, what happens to

647
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:15,680
the power of the degree over time.

648
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:19,079
Speaker 1: Well, it is sunny Canton, and up until today I

649
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:21,839
really had never heard of Sunny Canton. So no news

650
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,960
is bad news for Sunny Canton at this point.

651
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Speaker 2: And there are words I didn't realize that you're not

652
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:31,079
allowed to say, Oh yeah at the master.

653
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,599
Speaker 1: You can't say garbage. Well, you have to say debris.

654
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: I will admit to a weakness that I had today,

655
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,039
a very brief weakness. I had an appointment at four o'clock.

656
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:46,519
Where we live. There is a major expressway that is

657
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,200
down to one lane right after where you and I

658
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:52,440
went to college. If you don't get off there, you're

659
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:56,400
stuck for nearly half hour forty minutes depending. So I

660
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,759
got off and I went through the village of Pittsford,

661
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,000
and I thought, what do you think happens when I

662
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,039
go through the village of Pittsford.

663
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Speaker 1: Stop at Thirsty.

664
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Speaker 2: Yes, because I haven't been there in a very, very,

665
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,039
very long time. And I walk in.

666
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard there was like a poster of you

667
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:11,440
on the side of this thing. Oh yeah, have a

668
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,759
milk cart. I saw the owner, Dave Clifford. Briefly, he goes,

669
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:16,680
are you coming to going I go, actually I'm leaving.

670
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,880
I sat down and the bartender I know him, Ricky,

671
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and I said, hey, Ricky, I got ten minutes and

672
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I said, give me a half again.

673
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: He goes, what the fuck is wrong with you? And

674
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,640
give me a whole guinness. So I had a guinness

675
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:31,720
and I watched some of the soccer. But I like

676
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,359
going there to watch the Masters and stuff, and.

677
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,279
Speaker 1: If there's some guy place in town to watch the Masters.

678
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,559
Speaker 2: In that place, some guy sitting next to me is

679
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:45,960
telling Ricky that either someone he knows or some coach

680
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:50,279
got kicked I don't know if he got kicked out,

681
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,400
but his student is playing in the Masters. Maybe it's

682
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,759
an amateur. I'm not sure they do let amateurs play.

683
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,799
There are certain parts of a Gust that you are

684
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,319
not allowed to wear shorts, and that's on the field

685
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:11,400
of play or or the course. Yeah you can if

686
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,039
you are a patron. They don't call them fans, you're patrons.

687
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,760
They don't have fanatics at Augusta. They patrons. So if

688
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,440
you're a patron, you can wear shorts. But I heard

689
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that today that this guy, I don't know if he

690
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,920
got kicked out or just said you can't be here.

691
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You can't be in this area.

692
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: That that is true, because.

693
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Speaker 2: Somebody goes, how did he get in then, and they said, well,

694
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you can wear them. You can wear shorts as a patron,

695
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,960
but not in the galley. There is no such thing

696
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,519
as the rough. What do they call it, I don't

697
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,400
know what they call it, the second grass, the second grass.

698
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,480
So you know it's funny.

699
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Speaker 1: Why because I kind of appreciate it. So they say,

700
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,800
like Augusta, the town itself is a dump. Is a dump.

701
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, my cousin owns a couple of restaurants. There's thanks

702
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:01,880
for sitting there. Well, there are parts of it that

703
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,920
are very nice, but yes, overall.

704
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Speaker 1: Overall yet, but the actual course, they say, it's like

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a time warp. It's like going back to the fifties

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in every sense you can imagine.

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Speaker 2: Stop it.

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Speaker 1: So when you go to pay for your food, you

709
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,079
can't use a credit card, paying cash. But the prices

710
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:22,320
are like nineteen fifties prices. Everything's incredibly cheap there except

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for the attire, the gear and stuff that's those are

712
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all kill prices, okay, But everything else, like you can't

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have your phone. It's very quiet, it's very prim and proper.

714
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You gotta get dressed for it. But it is like

715
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a time warp going to Augusta. My brother in law

716
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,880
went there a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: What do they call the They don't say sand trap.

718
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,559
I don't know what they call it. Maybe obstacles, it.

719
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Speaker 1: Could be I don't know's. There's usually a list of.

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Speaker 2: What you can. You'll never hear that phrase while you're

721
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,480
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722
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000
The back nine is another one that they don't say.

723
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They may say the second nine.

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Speaker 1: Okay. The only one I'm really sure about is garbage

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00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:07,800
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00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,440
who was the president at the time, said Jim, we

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prudish in this country, and we don't talk about sexual

755
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pleasure and stuff to the point where it's shamed, it's

756
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,719
looked or I think there's a lot of shame associated

757
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with it.

758
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Speaker 1: Thanks Puritans.

759
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,119
Speaker 2: Would that be there to say?

760
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 5: So?

761
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: I just wonder like if you went to a sex therapist,

762
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:09,199
if you went and you had discussions with someone, or

763
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:13,000
you even went to a sexual surrogate, or you went

764
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:17,239
to one of these retreat type things, would it make

765
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,000
your life better? I don't know. I think that true

766
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,920
intimacy comes from real communication, right, That would be what

767
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:28,719
I think true intimacy comes from. You can be intimate,

768
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,199
physically intimate with somebody and have it mean nothing. But

769
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,960
then you can have real intimacy where you're communicating and

770
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:37,079
you know what that person likes and they know what

771
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:39,920
you like, and they do this and there's special things

772
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:44,320
and whatever. I just think that that's different. And apparently

773
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,960
there's one that's just for women, I think. And this

774
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,920
woman it was a three day women only orgasm retreat.

775
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:59,159
They learned how they did like rope bondage and stuff.

776
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,880
This chick said my name is so and so, and

777
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,119
I'm now into ropes. I'm looking for a man who

778
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,000
can die. That's what I'm saying. How much do you

779
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:10,480
think this is the game?

780
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: A little?

781
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,599
Speaker 2: This three day woman only orgasm retreat in a California

782
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:21,199
desert went for ninety nine dollars three thousand. Pretty good,

783
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,719
Pretty good? Let me see here, so actual retail right, well,

784
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,920
I'm going to tell you everything you got. It's run

785
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,159
by Pamela Madson and her team of sex educators, also

786
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known as perverts, blown sex educators, blown anatomy, demos, and

787
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sensual rituals, all designed to help women reclaim pleasure, confidence,

788
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and connection with their bodies with hands on practitioners like

789
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court Vox, the only man allowed hand on practitioner. Uh

790
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,159
huh okay, seven and fifty dollars bought an intro experience

791
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:04,639
to what some pay fifteen thousand dollars for, but seven

792
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,320
fifty all right? If your wife said to you, Dan,

793
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:12,599
I'm gonna go to this it's women only orgasm retreat,

794
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,119
and I'm gonna spend seven hundred and fifty dollars of

795
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:17,239
our money. No, probably more than that, because I need

796
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,079
to fly to get there.

797
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: What do you say, well, there better be a return

798
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,880
on that investment.

799
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: II and ROI.

800
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if it's an investment, I want to return.

801
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:35,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. So wait, how much how much is of you

802
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,280
and your time? And her time is worth seven hundred

803
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,599
and fifty dollars. She could charge you that for one night.

804
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,199
Do you want to return on my investor?

805
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, whatever techniques you're learning, you need to bring

806
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:49,239
her immediately home.

807
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. Some retreats costing fifteen thousand dollars. And according to

808
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:57,119
this woman, her name is Jana, and Jana did this,

809
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,639
she's a reporter. It wasn't just sex ed, it was

810
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:06,719
actually sexual awakening, she said, And is reclaiming sexuality becoming

811
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,639
a privilege of the wealthy because it's so expensive. What

812
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,920
does it mean when self discovery comes with the price

813
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:16,519
tag most can't afford? And that is sort of the thing.

814
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: But that's where the world's headed. Yeah, yeah, because the

815
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,400
whole marketing thing is if it's expensive, it's gotta be great,

816
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,559
and if it's not expensive, it can't be worth it. Well,

817
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:27,320
that's what they've trained us to believe.

818
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,159
Speaker 2: That is a that isn't just a that's a real thing. Yes,

819
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,519
that's a real thing, and in certain circles it's a

820
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:34,000
real thing.

821
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: Especially, you know, I could like Tony Robbins, right, is

822
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,840
a huge you know, I mean, the guy's the guy's

823
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:44,719
self made man, hundreds of millions of dollars being a

824
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,840
self help he does like being called a guru, but

825
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,239
a self help type of coach. And he's gotten into finance,

826
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,920
he's gotten into health, he's gotten into all kinds of things.

827
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:56,239
George Carlin always had a joke about Tony Robbins. He said,

828
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,960
if you spend the money to go to a Tone

829
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,000
Robin seminar, you don't need to go to a Tony

830
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,360
Robin seminar. Like, if you're motivated to go, you don't

831
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,159
need to go. Just put that moutomation towards whatever it

832
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,079
is you're chasing out there, right. And I think when

833
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:14,639
it comes to sexual stuff, if you the best things

834
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:17,239
and supposedly in life are free, you'll figure it out

835
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,639
if you want. You don't need to go to some

836
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,719
retreat to learn this stuff. But here's this other thing

837
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,159
that they have now that they didn't have before. YouTube.

838
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,679
Everything you want to learn, yes, can be foul.

839
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't think sexual stuff can, yeah, but they can

840
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,360
give you ideas though they ain't act it out, but

841
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,559
they can kind of like talk you through it. Yeah,

842
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:41,000
not that I would know. Fifteen thousand dollars.

843
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:44,079
Speaker 1: Dude, that's like one semester at Fisher.

844
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, for three days. Yeah, but your clytorist

845
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,760
gets more intention than your LinkedIn and you're actually happy

846
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,039
about that for once, rightfully, So my LinkedIn's getting someone.

847
00:42:54,519 --> 00:42:58,480
Uh yeah, fifteen thousand dollars for I think most women

848
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:00,880
would say all I need is ten minutes a piece

849
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,039
and quiet without someone screaming mom, and I would be

850
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:10,639
set free. But I'm not sure. Yeah, the uh somebody,

851
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:11,440
there are.

852
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: Some women who can't orgasm. There are some women.

853
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,679
Speaker 2: Who's men too. Seriously, Yeah, there's men that.

854
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't we talk to somebody about this?

855
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: We did? Yes, yes, go on you say that?

856
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 5: Have you?

857
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: Is that the excuse of women have used with you?

858
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:26,679
Is that?

859
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: Is that?

860
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:29,159
Speaker 2: Why is that?

861
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: My Christianity will.

862
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: Look at that?

863
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,519
Speaker 1: I think there's I think there are some women who

864
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:37,920
just can't do you know, because they've said so, They've told.

865
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,679
Speaker 2: Me, really, yes, that's what they're saying to you, Then

866
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:42,239
that's what they're saying.

867
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

868
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: Years ago well, yeah, I know, let their fingers do the.

869
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:50,639
Speaker 5: Uh.

870
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: The retreat filled Some people say it filled gaps between

871
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,360
sex said that we or gaps left by trade.

872
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Well, sex education is supposed to be education. Yes, it's

873
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,559
still taught in schools. It has to be done with

874
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:06,880
a certain element of class and sophistication. It can't just

875
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,079
be like all right, so now where he's a double sided.

876
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,519
Speaker 2: Well, you know somebody who's wrote in like why are

877
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:15,239
women learning about their bodies in their thirties, forties, fifties

878
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,880
or later. Well, the thing is because everything was shunned,

879
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,400
and I think you get to a certain point in

880
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,599
life and go, well, not of anybody's business.

881
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is like when you're in your twenties,

882
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,079
you're usually with people in their twenties and they don't

883
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:28,639
know what they're doing.

884
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: Those what they're doing. That's what I'm saying, is to

885
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,360
get older and freer. Maybe going to one of those

886
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,400
things could be Some people say that it was a

887
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:42,000
very healing for them through erotic practices, which is odd, right,

888
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:46,760
because if you had trauma, neglect, shame, disconnection, and it

889
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,880
does raise the question could sensuality and erotic play be

890
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:54,239
legitimate therapeutic tools, and the thing would be better. Not

891
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,760
I don't want to find out it would be creepy.

892
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,000
That's how guys get arrested. That's how it's usually the male. Yes, hey,

893
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:04,119
you know what you need is an whatever?

894
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: Right, let me help you out.

895
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean, do you like that. I'd like the fact

896
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,599
that we separate sex and healing. Little Yeah, I would think, yes,

897
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,320
that's that's all. But you'd be okay. If Beth wanted

898
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,079
to go to one, I don't know. I think it

899
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:26,239
might be interesting if I went with her, But it's

900
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,239
a women's only.

901
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't see. That's that just invites trouble. You're opening

902
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,079
the door for trouble.

903
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: What do you mean your.

904
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,079
Speaker 1: Vom Yeah, that's wait, how are we doing that?

905
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,039
Speaker 2: How?

906
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: I just I just, you know, women get.

907
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how women.

908
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: So I we'll think about how men get when they're

909
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000
together on they're all going on trips stuff.

910
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:50,119
Speaker 2: We just get drunk. Oh, I see what you're saying.

911
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:51,599
He's needing like hooking up with other people.

912
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

913
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,519
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a whole lot of that, especially marry guys.

914
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:56,079
I haven't seen that.

915
00:45:56,159 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: I've never seen it with marry guys.

916
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: But I know that guys, guys do single women single women.

917
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, like you know, you gotta

918
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,239
explain yourself again, you gotta go back to the days.

919
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,480
Well they kind of unlocked that. Not a little trust

920
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:11,360
my wife. I'm just say, why invite that temptation?

921
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: O God?

922
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: But if she came back like more renaissances.

923
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,119
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. What if she came back and

924
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,239
they did a whole rope thing, she got a whole

925
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:20,920
rope thing.

926
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,159
Speaker 1: She ties me up that she goes take account exactly.

927
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:26,039
Speaker 5: I got it.

928
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: I just looked at the time. I got it. It's

929
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,000
a little stuff I gotta take care of. But we

930
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:33,760
went along with the Brett segment. We did about our

931
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:34,599
average time.

932
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I mean I understand Mayor Evans' concerns, but

933
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,719
there was no reason to.

934
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: Do that to Brett. Who's mel Novak? I don't know,

935
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:48,639
and he's dead. Oh okay, he died. Yeah, I just

936
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:49,280
got a team.

937
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Speaker 1: Is that Kim Novak's husband that said mel Novak?

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Speaker 2: Let's see mel Novak. Oh, it looks familiar, remembering mel

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Novak Hollywood actor.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that the planet Alf was from mel Novak? What

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I was Melman.

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Speaker 2: He was uh best known for his starring role in

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Bruce Lee's classic Game of Death. I don't know, No,

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I don't remember. If that, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's in Peace broke.

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Speaker 2: Well, guess what. The Game of Death walk took a while. Yeah, yeah,

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I wonder if it was Kim Novak's dead somewhere outside.

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All right, for Dan Barrillo, Beth go on that retreat.

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I'm Bill Moran. Tell yourself, we'll see tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: He was up.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't

