Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It is ten am. We're already
laughing backstage. We're ready to go. It is Thursday and
just another day, another slate of games. And you know what,
you had to expect this. We appeased the casuals yesterday,
making Creighton the feature game, because if you pulled like
actual college basketball fans, no one would ever say that
that was the feature game yesterday. Today, I'm going to
override any of the top twenty five stuff. The feature
game is Brian Powers alma mater, the Ohio Bobcats, taking
on what I considered to be one of the better
mid major teams in the country, in the Illinois State Redbirds.
We have a Missouri Valley guy in Rob Vino. We
have an Ohio Bobcat alum in Brian Power. So that's
where we're starting today. That is the feature game, the
best game on Thursday slate by a mile in my opinion.
So welcome in, boys. I'll go to Rob first, Illinois State, Ohio.
How do you see this one going down? And this
isn't Athens, Nate, Yes, it is Athens at the Commocation
Center tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a big one, guys. These two teams well,
you can tell by the point spread right one and
a half. These are two pretty evenly matched teams on paper.
Let's start with Ohio, you which lost here Monday night
to Arkansas State. I'm gonna bring up Arkansas State here
for a reason. But Arkansas State, we'll dive into them
a little bit head coaching change there. Ryan Panone, a
NATO's disciple, comes in. Interestingly, guys, he took over for
Brian Hodgson, another NATO's disciple who didn't follow the NATO's
way at Arkansas State, slowed them down. I think I
read somewhere where they only played six total games last
year over seventy possessions.
Speaker 3: That's just not NATO's style.
Speaker 2: So incomes Panone, who decides, yeah, I'm playing NATO style,
and he walks in here with that high pressure again.
We'll use kind well, I don't have to use anything.
Everybody knows NATO's in Alabama, Nato said Buffalo, you know
the style they play. They win the game eighty nine
to eighty five. Arkansas State had fourteen new players Monday night.
They shoot fifty eight six percent from two, thirty seven
percent from three in typical NATO style and this is
probably low.
Speaker 3: We'll see more of this.
Speaker 2: We'll see this number increased, guys, as the season goes on.
But Arkansas State shot twenty seven threes against Ohio You
and went to the free throw line twenty eight times.
Speaker 3: That just goes with the style of play. Twenty eight
free throws.
Speaker 2: They essentially walked in there, unproven, untested, all that newness,
and they beat Ohio You at a game that Ohio
You really likes to play. Ohio You wants to go
up tempo as well. I think it's all relevant here
because Illinois State is going to increase tempo a little
bit this year as they get let's just say they're
more veteran, that they have a core four. They go
about eight deep. They went fairly fast last year. I
made a lot of money last year, probably more money
than on any other team playing Illinois State overs. But
those overs weren't the type of over that we're looking
at tonight. We're looking at one forty six is one
forty sevens. Last year one forty five's Illinois State was
getting over. They come in here, like I say, eight deep,
they shoot the three. They win twenty two games. Last year,
they win the CBI, which should be a stepping stone
to a better season this year. With all the returning
talent that they have, they're a top three contender in
the Missouri Valley. The question to me is the only
question to me, is can Ohio you or will Ohio
You lose back to back home games. It's a quick
turnaround home redemption game against a team that they're capable
of beating. They're just as good, you know, at least
on paper as the other side. They have a core
for returning. They add Javon Simmons to this team. Hardaway
was the best player on the floor the other night
for Ohio You, so there's assets there as well. I
would say this real quick, Ohio You didn't play bad
Monday night. Arkansas State just played better. What you find
when you go through the numbers and looking at the
game a little bit on replay, they got crushed on
the boards forty one to twenty five. Ohio You gets
destroyed in rebounding. Can Illinois State do the same? I'm
not sure. As I mentioned earlier, I made a lot
of money last year bet in Illinois State totals.
Speaker 3: This one's a little bit too high for me.
Speaker 2: I can't get there at one fifty seven, one fifty
seven and a half. I think Illinois State is the
slightly better team, but the situation of angle keeps me
off of that too. I think Ohio you could very
well bounce back and win a home game. They got
one under their belt. Illinois State.
Speaker 3: It's their opener for the season.
Speaker 2: So it's a lot of descriptives and a lot of
analysis to not play a game, But I just can't
come up with a clear sidework total in this one.
Speaker 3: Guys, they did.
Speaker 2: These are two teams you probably want to watch all
season long. You probably are gonna end up on quite
a bit this season. I know I will with Illinois State,
So Brian, I'll let it over to you and see
what you got, and I'll hire.
Speaker 3: You for us.
Speaker 4: Well, some could call me, accuse me, if you will,
of being a little biased in this situation, but I
was talking to our good friend Trig Keith Landry, who
is in a chat as we speak, and I see
him yes, and he can go off this that this happened.
You and I were talking about this game actually before
I even knew this would be our featured game here
on the fourth day of full court press, and we
both came to the conclusion that Ohio used the right side. Here.
I'm gonna go ahead. I'm an I'm gonna lead off.
I'm gonna come out to swing. We lost our parlay
yesterday after after going two for two the show began
by going two for two with their three leg parlays
were off, so we need to bounce back. I'm throwing
my leg right in. It is Ohio University on the
money line. Here, look, I'll Rob. I spent a lot
of time pouring over this box score of Ohio and
Arkansas State from the other night. Rob's right, the rebounding
was a problem. What was interesting, though, is you get
destroyed on the glass, Rob, Typically what you see is
a team will then have what end up with far
fewer field goal attempts. That actually wasn't the case with
though you. What happened was Arkansas State lived at the
foul life and they cashed it. I mean, free throw
shooting is one of those high variant stats in modern
college basketball, right, I mean, some teams just starting good
at making them. Some teams will make you pay. Arkansas
State went to happens and they went twenty five of
twenty eight from the line. That was the difference in
a four point win where they scored fifty seven points
in the second half. Oh, you's got to be better
at guarding the three. They were terrible at guarding the
three last year, okay, one of the worst teams in
the entire country. Paveleski back Rob mentioned some of the
new talent that came in Simmons Connors. I think, oh
you is not going to lose back to back home
games to start the year. I will take them on
the money line here, I think you can still get
a pretty cheap price, trig. You know, let's confirm that price.
I don't want to be telling people to bet like
minus one forty five because I know this. The market
is moving in the direction of the Bobcats. It was
minus one twenty, I believe when I looked last Yeah,
I was even minus one ten. I even saw some
minus one tens when before we talked about I think
I think that had come up solid on here.
Speaker 1: I see it kind of bouncing back and forth. I
still see it looks like I mean, it looks like
pick I think, Ohio plus one might still be out there. No,
it's minus one Okay, okay, you know what.
Speaker 4: I see A lot of minus one fifteens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take that's that's good.
Speaker 4: A way to DraftKings, a wildly available book now in
bed with ESPN s. But my sources behind me are
yelling that DraftKings is now in bed with esp I
don't know we're allowed to.
Speaker 3: ESPN couldn't withdraw fast enough.
Speaker 1: So this is I have a couple of things that
support your argument here, Brian. My friend Ryan Hammer, great
great college Basketball, followed absolutely someone you should be following,
puts out awesome content. Tweeted this out a couple of
weeks ago, and I took a screenshot of it, not
knowing that we would talk about this year, but I
found it in my phone because it was something I
wanted to remember. And he posted college basketball's best statistical
home court advantages last three years of home versus non
home difference and win percentage, net rating, opponent field goal
and attendance. And so he had the power confer the
entire country, which is mostly power conferences on the left
and the non powers on the right. When the when,
when the budget increases for this show, I'll have it
on screen, but for now, you're just gonna have to
take take my word for it. The number one, so
a power conference being defined as like the you know,
the top the power five, nonpower would be every one out.
So the number one nonpower to hit all those metrics
is Dayton, which should surprise nobody. I've been to the
ud Arena. It is incredible spot and and it's well
known that Dayton wins all their games there for the
most part. The number two on that non power list
is the Convocation Center in Athens, Ohio. So if you
need something to back up how good they've been at home,
not just like how good last year.
Speaker 4: Last year was real stark. Last year was very very stark.
They were they were a completely different team home versus road.
Speaker 1: Completely different team home versus road. You come off of
a home loss, which which you know, Rob kind of
pointed out, Hey, like at Arkansas State, they're good. They're
a good team. They're gonna be in the mix in
that league again, and they just played a really good game.
Sometimes you have to tip your cap. You go back
to this game. Last year in normal Illinois Illinois was
Illinois State was the host. This is a return game.
Ohio led in the second half of that game, I
think had like a decent lead, maybe like an eight
to ten point lead, and Illinois State just like did
what they can do started hitting every shot. I think
they ended up putting. I think that that game got
to one sixty last year, which Rob I'm seeing one
sixty now across the board for the total of this game.
So you know, with your your argument for an over
like like points certainly makes sense. But it looks like
the market thinks the same. Right, that's up to one
sixty open one fifty six and a half. Now I'm
seeing one sixty and a half, So the market definitely
thinks there's gonna be some points in this game. But yeah, Ohio,
coming off of a tough loss where they didn't play badly,
I wouldn't want to go against them here. So even
though my personal number i'm at like Illinois, I may
have to rewait out my home court for Ohio. I
may have to add more points for home court for them,
because I was at Illinois State minus three and a
half here and I'm like for a number and I'm
gonna like retract that on air and say I didn't
add enough in for Ohio home court. It gets me
back closer to like probably one and a half or two. So,
even though I think Illinois State's a better team, not
nearly a big enough edge for me to go against
Ohio coming off a loss on their home For Brian,
go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's peel open the box score from last Yeshella,
you were spot on, trig it did end up at
one sixty on the nose. Last year, Illinois State wins
eighty five to seventy five at home. Owe you leads by.
They had a six point lead midway through the second
half of that game, uh before they let it get away?
And what was the key? I mentioned in my break
initial breakdown that the Bobcats had all sorts of trouble
defending the three last year, Well, Illinois State in that
game shot fifty two point six percent from three. They
shot sixty one point two percent for the game. That's
not going to happen. At the corner of Richland and
Robs six eighty two, guys, Keith.
Speaker 1: Landry says, it's it's Thursday Thursday in Athens. I mean,
if anyone would know about that.
Speaker 4: You look, well not look. This has been a big
week in a town. Obviously last week and the biggest
part of the year, Halloween. It is legitimately the best
Halloween celebration in this country down in Athens, Ohio. Every year,
at least it wasn't my day. It was a little
annoying for actually as a student there, because you know,
getting where you want to go, all of a sudden
you have thousands of people flooding Court Street. And then
of course Tuesday we beat Miami, It'll kick off Max
in football. That was also uh on campus. So yeah,
I could round out a big week of partying, although
I hear college students don't party like these to which
is sickness.
Speaker 3: Sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were in Brian and I were in Pittsburgh
after a pitt Panthers game a couple of weeks ago against.
Speaker 4: Dukes television, No one's drinking after the game. Roman, I'm
a parent and I'm whining about children, kids not drinking.
Speaker 1: Where is the bar? It was a it was a
nine game. It was a nine PM game National TV,
So it got out around eleven and we just wanted
to find a bar to a drink aut and it
couldn't find one close.
Speaker 2: So can I add real quick, guys, can add to
the list of things on the Ohio You resume as
a father of a Belmont student. The very first time
ESPN drove their trucks to the Michael Curbs Center in
Nashville to cover Belmont on ESPN News or You.
Speaker 3: Or whatever they were on.
Speaker 2: It was against Ohio you believe it or not, So
Ohio You another thing on their resume. First team to
play Belmont in an ESPN televised game.
Speaker 3: How about that?
Speaker 4: Was that the old Bracketbusters day is or something like that?
Speaker 2: Probably Now that was a night game that when you
guys said nine o'clock in a reminded me that was
a night game, late night, which was really weird for
Belmont es Central Time Zone teams. Are you playing that
late at night? And Ohio You was clearly the better team,
but they lost. Belmont did win that game, so it
was a big night for Bruiser brewin in the Belmont.
Speaker 3: You know, faithful.
Speaker 1: Matt in the Chats has loved a new show. Listen
to the podcast version every day. We appreciate the feedback,
and you know, we have forty five minutes the rest
of the show. It's gonna be all questions from the chat.
So that's that's the goal here. Get in go ahead, Brian, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Just wanted to point out one more thing about this
Ohio three point defense. By the way, I talked about
Ryder and it's an ability to hit threes that came
back to bite them again last night. Just you know,
we're not just pulling stuff on a thin air gang.
But with the Illinois State shooting so well in that
meeting last year, they were overall not a good three
point shooting team last year outside the top they were
close to you know, three hundred in three point shooting nationally,
which obviously is not good at all. They hit they
they're at home, they hit them against this Ohio team,
who I think in rob I don't know. Feel free
to maybe correct me if you feel differently. Three point
defense is one of those stats that can very wildly
from year to year. Yes, you have teams that year
and your out stink at defending the arc, and some
teams that are very good at it. But I think,
you know, you look at a team like Ohio that
it feels like an outlier what happened to them last
year from outside what they allowed their opponents to shoot.
Speaker 2: You know, just general theory guys, I feel like the
faster paced game you play, the more broken court there is,
the more open threes there are. So if you're a
fast paced team, you probably give up threes at a
higher percentage than a team that wants to come down
and settle in and anchor into half court defense and
defend the perimeter, et cetera, et cetera. And Ohio, you
played at pace last.
Speaker 3: Year, so it makes a little bit of sense.
Speaker 2: They gave up thirty seven percent the other night to
Arkansas State, which isn't a monstrous number, but it's a
high enough number to get beat with, as they found out,
if you combine it with free throw shooting and a
rebounding disadvantage, et cetera, et cetera. Whether or not Illinois State,
first of all, Illinois State won't play a NATO style
one thing. And second of all, whether or not Illinois
State can dominate on the glass the way that Arkansas
State did that night, well you know those are all,
like you say, high, varying stuff, Brian. But I do
think the faster you play, the more act you are
to give up more open threes, which just leads to
a higher percentage.
Speaker 4: And the problem in that Arkansas State game was the
volume right because Arkansas State got off twenty seven threes
against OU and the opener. So if you're if you're
attempting twenty seven threes, you don't even need to shoot
necessarily a great percentage. You're gonna you're gonna make a
fair number regardless.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Literally, it's gonna be a great watch tonight. You
know production won't clip that, but that is as good
of a thirteen minute discussion on this game as you're
gonna find. And Brian Power has kicked off Thursday's parlay
with Ohio on the money line, So we're off and
running here. I'm gonna move on. It wouldn't be an
Adam Trigger college basketball show if we didn't go from
that game directly to the extra board. But that's what
we're gonna do. And Jay buff is in the chat,
he says, night sweatshirt trig, let me let me move
that comment. Let me move that comment so you can
see my Leamoye Dolphins, Tony Lamoine Dolphins right here in
Sarah used to finish the chair of m that's a listen.
If you're if you're looking for a you have a
picture the chick.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, do let's not let's not get
Jordan Area here to talk about.
Speaker 1: A bit that is uh yeah, that's a reference to
the O. G Show when we used to do the
College Basketball Show and a running joke with Lemoine and
I'll actually, i'll i'll parallel, I'll use I'll tie that
in because that was the nice year Lamoye. That was
the first year Lemoine was in Division one and they overachieved.
They played, you know, they played better than I think
anyone gave them a chance to play. Uh finished third
or fourth in the NEC in their first year, and
last year took a pretty big step back. And the
reason that this team took a step back last year
is they didn't defend at all. And and you know,
I look at this team this year, but so like,
they had some good players on that team last year.
AJ Danceler's now at Coastal Carolina. O cipher Owens is
at Charlton State. They had some players that went on
to play who are now at bigger schools. And I
think the perception here is that Lemoyne lost some of
their best guys, but I think they might have you know,
Dancer is a great shooter, but I think those are
some of the offenders of playing absolutely zero defense. And
you know, going back like seeing Nate Champion Lamoyne head
coach sort of bring this team from D two to
D one and going back two years ago, that was
a better defensive team. And I know he wants to
stress defense a little bit more this year with this roster,
who still has like a good amount of players back
from last year. And I think if you look at
them in the context of the NEC, one of the
low major conferences out there, one of the smallest conferences,
perennial sixteen seeds in the NCAA tournament, like this team's got,
in my opinion, just as much to be excited about
as the top teams in this league, some of which
we might talk about today l IU Central, Connecticut State.
Like I'm not saying that on a talent level they're
on par with them, but like this could be a
pretty good team. Now, I'll kick this over to Rob
who you know can can give us the xavier side
of the coin a little bit here. Richard Patino first
year looks to me like this is gonna be very
much a rebuild. And if you go back in Richard
Patino's career, like he's almost okay with that. Like like,
if you go back to his first year at New Mexico,
they finished tenth in the Mountain West. New Mexico with
their eyes closed should be able to finish better than
tenth in the Mountain West most years. But I think
it speaks to like Richard Patino wanting to build a
team his way, get younger, get freshmen in that are
gonna be with the program for a couple of years.
Go back, you know, Minnesota. He did well with the
team he inherited, inherited, but then like or two or
year three is a total rebuild. He was at the
bottom of the conference. I think he feels like his
job security is probably okay, so he's not worried about losing.
In year one, Maris hung around with Xavier the other night.
Xavier is getting bet up here, like like they're just
gonna win this game by thirty. I gotta disagree with that.
I kind of like the Dolphins, Brian Dolphins. There's no
water period. I don't know why it's a religious reference.
It's we have no ocean near Syracuse. If anyone was
confused as to where they're located. But Rob talk to
me about about Xavier. Why are they taking all this
money here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's got to be first off on reputation, right,
and second off on the transfer class that a guy
like Patino's going to bring in. But we've talked about
it at length this week, guys, because it's opening week
and we just talked about it with Arkansas State. It's
almost the same thing, right, Richard Patino wants to play
extremely fast.
Speaker 3: Arkansas State walked into Ohio, you with fourteen new players.
Speaker 2: This is basically what Xavier's facing, right, an entire transformation
of the roster designed to play his way. And the
one word reviewsed over and over again. At least I
have is cohesion or geling. How long does that take?
We don't this team in January, we may talk a
lot different than we talk about them.
Speaker 3: In early November.
Speaker 2: Right, we just don't know if these kids are all
gonna mesh. We know they're gonna enjoy playing the system,
there's no question about it. And we know that he's
got talent on this team that exceeds what Lemoyne has
on paper by probably the amount of points that's listed
in the points spread here. But it's the start of
the season, and we just don't know what evaluation process
is gonna take place, what experimentation, How do I fix
these rotations? These coaches are always playing with this stuff
at the start of a season when they got new guys.
So again, it's hard to gauge. Some of these teams
have come out of the gate quickly, We've seen it.
Some of these teams have come out of the gate slowly.
I mean, you know, just to use Auburn as kind
of an example of a and it's not even a
major coaching change, right, it's father handing the batonta son,
but it made a difference in their opening games. So
I don't know where I would lean here, Adam, I
would you know? LeMoyne's what's the Xavier team total in
that game? Anybody got that off?
Speaker 4: I can get I can get that real.
Speaker 1: Brian's gonna get that. And and while he gets that,
I just want to.
Speaker 4: Play ninety and a half, ninety and a half, and
it's DraftKings is at ninety one and a half. It's
interesting because the game total hasn't really like I'm looking
at the screen the total, you know, because Trick mentioned
Xavier's getting bet up here, the total really is not,
which is interesting.
Speaker 1: I suppose so that see, that's a direct that is
directly based on the fact that Lemoyne played no defense
last year. This team no granted Marist, the Marrist read
are scrappy as hell. They're a max school John Dunn.
It has zero interest in the offensive end of the floor.
He is going to get guys that just want to,
you know, scratch and claw you to death. That's a
good defensive team. Xavier sixty six points against them the
other night, sixty six sixty two. They were on the
ropes there for a minute against Maris. Now, Maris is
a quality team. Maris I would have they're a superior
team to Lamoine. But it doesn't mean that they just
didn't maybe get a little bit of a blueprint to
like say, hey, like you know, because from a size standpoint,
like they're not gonna be able to do it as
well as Maris did. But they can certainly look at
that and say, well, this is how an undersized team
went in and sort of defended the Xavier team and
played them to a sixty six to sixty two final.
I gotta recall the Lamoine opener last year when some
of those offensive guys missed and they almost went into
the Carrier Dome and won. It's not the Carrier Dome
anymore to me. It will always be the Carrier Dome.
But you know they were. They were a possession away
last year from knocking off Syracuse as a similar size
underdog in the Dome, and that was when that was
opening night. They gave a tremendous defensive effort. After that,
it just sort of went out the window as the
season went on. So I would say, undermake sense, and
I my number here is twenty two and a half.
Now where it is at like twenty five, I have
to lean toward the dog. I think I would just
take the twenty five with Lemoine.
Speaker 2: Rob.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to you for a different game
if you if you had something else to add there,
go ahead. But we have Danzo in the chat. Once
you see Riverside, I know you had a take on
that one, So I'll let you wrap up Lamoyne if
you want to, and then you can head on over
to that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't really disagree with anything, Adam. I think the
line move one more time as we try to figure
out why people are so in love with Xavier.
Speaker 3: In this particular game.
Speaker 2: It's it's to me reputation based and second game perhaps
a little a.
Speaker 3: Little better offensive showing.
Speaker 2: But to your point, if you just do the sheer
mathematics of it, they have to be twenty six points
better than they were against Marits to cover that team total.
And is their offense going to be twenty six points
better combined with Lemoy's defense being twenty six points worse,
that combo has to somehow add up to twenty six
to get it over.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a tough handicap for me real quick,
and I'm going to get into unc excuse me, you
see riverside in North Dakota to hear real quick. But guys,
I just wanted to bring these couple of things up
and maybe I'll kind of start the show this way
with just a couple of fast examples. We don't like
to review too much. We like to get right into
what we're talking about today. We have a little extra time.
A couple of things that struck me last night seriously.
Maryland Eastern Shore twenty nine points against Georgia in a
full game ninety four to twenty nine.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: And then to make it worse, guys, they went back
and Maryland Eastern Shorees first game was a pretty close game.
Speaker 3: Let me go ahead and get that result.
Speaker 2: It's just it was amazing to me that you could
come out there. Yeah, the first game they played Georgia
Tech into overtime fifty six fifty two and they come
out with a twenty nine point performance.
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I want to but before let's let's before we go
to UC Riverside, because I feel like this might apply
to a game tonight. So let's let's talk about a
different one. First, we can bring Brian into the conversation.
Do you would you fade the Thune Cookman tonight based
on sort of what you're saying, because Tarlatan saw something
similar last night where they played SMU. They left it
all out there for forty minutes and they were like,
just not the same team. Two nights later, they were
totally gassed. They had a guy get hurt, and it
was it just went off the rails. That's what happened
to Maryland Eastern Shore. Listen putting an effort in against
a power conference school like that is is is tough enough.
What happens when you have to turn around and play
another one two three days later. That's what you're dealing
with here, And I feel like that's kind of what
you've just brought up. So elaborate on your point and
then maybe you know, comment on Bethune Miami being that
same thing tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well it makes a lot of sense, right,
I mean, obviously we put a lot of stock in
Tarleton's first performance yesterday on the show didn't pan out,
but you have to, you know, watch and learn from that.
Speaker 3: And it is when you.
Speaker 2: Play a game, I'll use your words, Adam, when you
lay it all out on the line against the power
conference team for forty minutes and then have to have
a quick turnaround with travel go play another one, it
can be and then lose a guy along the way.
It can be extremely tough. Twenty nine points to me,
I thought was the key there. It just doesn't seem,
you know, feasible in modern day college basketball.
Speaker 3: You could only score twenty nine.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna move on really really fast here to South
Carolina Upstate, which defeated Fresno State.
Speaker 3: For those who don't stay up late. USC Upstate wins
that game by one. Bride go ahead.
Speaker 4: I could see what I was gonna say, what's going
on with the Mountain West. That's two nights in a
row now because UNLV lost to U T. Martin as well.
So I, Trig, I think you mentioned one of the
last few one of the first two days. The Mountain
West isn't what it used to be. I think we've
already seen Exhibit A and Exhibit B of that. I was, yeah,
not a great start for the Mountain West for sure.
Speaker 2: And then lastly, we're last night's concerned. Let's just wrap
it up with there was no Tanner Thomas last night, Trigg,
I kicked myself for not taking eight and a half,
although you would have barely covered. But e WU has
now played two pretty good games on the road against
solid opponents. And when we get to Big skyplay Eastern
Washington just but a little red you know, check mark
next to him if you're following the show, see what
we can do with Eastern Washington along the way. But
let's get to the cal Riverside North Dakota game here
real quick. Cal Overside opens up their season. They beat
Los Sierra, who cares ninety to forty nine. North Dakota,
on the other hand, goes to Tuscaloosa loses to Alabama
by almost thirty nine sixty two. A couple of days later,
come home, focus on cal Riverside here because we've been
focusing on coaching.
Speaker 3: Changes, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Cal Riverside loses all five starters off of last year's
twenty one and thirteen team, a pretty good team under
Mike macpile, who goes to Fordham now to become the
head coach. They bring in a Division two head coach,
Gus Arginal who's been around Division one programs. He's been
around a little bit, but he's an Eric Musselman disciple.
What does Eric Musselman disciple mean for those watching the
show who don't know about his coaching career. Basically, Eric
Musselman is a guy who wants to win on the
defensive end, requires rebounding effort. It's more of a methodical
run when we get an opportunity type of head coaching philosophy.
Wasn't exactly that in Arkansas, but Arkansas's a different school,
different program.
Speaker 3: Since Nolan Richardson.
Speaker 2: May them high speed, but that's what Musselman wants to do,
and that's what arginal wants to do here. How about
this guy's gus. Arginald in an interview, said he wants
his team to make two hundred passes a game. He said,
it's probably not possible, but our goal is two hundred
passes on offense in forty minutes. If you make two
hundred passes, you can't help but grind the clock down continuously.
It's an exact opposite style of what UND just played
at Alabama. We've talked about Natos's system.
Speaker 3: We won't rehash it.
Speaker 2: But it's a three hundred and sixty degree polar opposite
opponent here. For North Dakota will take a look and
you find that they lost four starters, but most importantly
Trace and Eaglestaff goes to West Virginia. He's a guy
who scored fifty one in a game last year, but
he was their leading scorer, their best shooter, and with
him they lose four star. Another guy went to Xavier,
I believe, another high major team. So they've got some
spots to fill here. I'm gonna say that with the
new head coaching change at UCR. It just seems like
defensive tenacity is going to be on display here, and
they did hold a non Division one team under fifty
points the other night. Obviously North Dakota is a little
bit better than that, but North Dakota's quest to play
with tempo constantly may not be there for forty minutes
against this opponent guys in und For what it's worth,
it's not exactly an interior scoring team. They want to
shoot the ball from the perimeter, and UCR seems to
match up really, really well on the defensive side against that.
I looked at this total it started, correct me if
I'm wrong. I don't have the odds logic in front
of me, but I think it started summer into one
fifty two vicinity since been bet down to one fifty.
I totally agree. One to fifty just seems to be
too high here. I never like to in fact that
I'll phrase it differently, I do like to always assume
that the home team in a battle of tempos can
control tempo for you know, more than fifty percent of
the forty minutes available. But this team you see are
with their defensive philosophy and with their methodical philosophy can
probably control tempo for twelve to fifteen minutes here, and
that's going to be enough to keep this thing under
one fifty. Brian, We've said it a couple of times
this week. It's sometimes hard to get to one forty.
Getting over one fifty with a team that doesn't want
to go to one fifty even harder. So, guys, i'll
just put that in right now. Is my leg of
the parlay here, the UC Riverside North Dakota game under
one fifty, if that's even still available.
Speaker 1: I know they were betting it down earlier.
Speaker 4: All right, do we get two of the three legs
in there already?
Speaker 1: Here? Holy, I'll tell you what I'm going to go. So,
first of all, Garth, very very kind, if you thank
you for the donation of the show. It's very much appreciated.
And I and I'm going to take this one. And
I I had a pretty strong opinion here, and and
I think because Garth has stepped, you know, stepped in
with that, I think that's going to push me over
to make this my leg the parlays. So I will
grab Boston College Citadel. If anyone has a comment after
I make my player. You want to tell me I'm wrong,
you'll feel free to jump in. But I think my
thought process in this game is in line with the
way Garth is looking now, he said. Thoughts on the
Citadel team total under sixty two and a half. My
handicap certainly would suggest that that occurs, because I like
Boston College minus the points here, so I'll start with Citadel.
I think this is going to be one of the
worst teams in the country this year. I think they
will finish last in what I consider to be a
SoCon that's not quite as good as it's been in
years past. Some really good players have have left the conference.
I think you have a certain teams, I mean, just
go you know, one of your one of your con
sort of you know, the teams that's supposed to be
one of the top teams in this league. Furman run
off the floor by high point the other day, not
even close. I think this is a down year for
UNC Greensboro, which we kind of saw play out in
the second half of that Kansas State game. They've been
one of the better teams in this league last couple
of years. So I'm kind of down across the board.
On the SoCon but specifically I think Citadel I think
they may not win a league game. This is a
roster that's they've probably have four guys coming from like
D two schools that are not like that, that are
not like D two powers really that are probably gonna
play big minutes for them this year. I mean, the
guys they have back are not great play like I
just I just don't see much in the way of
like redeeming qualities for this team. And but on the
other side, now Boston College is interesting because I personally
think they're going to be better than last year. Now
how much better. It's tough because they play in the ACC.
They're probably still a bottom team in the ACC. But
for me, a lot of people have them at the
bottom of the ACC. I don't. I think they could
actually play their way out of the total basement and
into maybe like you know, twelve or thirteenth. Reason I
say that is last year they were just they were
just bad, like poorly constructed bad basketball team. I went
to one of their first games last year. It was
it was BC played VCU on a neutral court in Annapolis,
and I went down there. It was a doubleheader. It
was BCVCU Navy Harvard. So I got to see two games,
and that Boston College team was such a disaster in
that game. I kind of followed them through the rest
of the year and it never got better. It was
basically they just they took such poor shots all year long,
like they just had no There was just no easy offense.
And at times, you know, I was like felt like
they played hard, like they weren't poorly coached. There's a
game that comes to mind when they almost beat Syracuse
in the Dome last year, like where I just felt
like they were kind of moving in the right direction,
but they had no easy offense whatsoever. And so again,
I it's not like I expect any sort of big things,
like I think BC is going to be back in
the tournament. I certainly don't think that's going to be
the case, but you know, it's there. They're better than
they were last year, and I think the market feels
like they're still like by far the worst team in
the ACC, which I disagree with. The other thing, I
believe this is red Bandana weekend at Boston College. I
don't know what that it. And so like, listen, I
don't think that that's it's certainly not the red bandana
basketball game. But like people are going to start filing
in for football, they may come early. You probably got
some juice on campus. I'm not going to totally rehash
this story, but it's a tremendous story.
Speaker 3: Go look it up.
Speaker 1: I had a friend that played for Boston College basketball,
and like, it's definitely like the energy on campus that
weekend is always like next level in in a positive
way because it really is that the story is, you know,
supposed to be. It's a positive spin on what was
obviously like a tragic event. So you get this game
in BC. I think they might have more juice than
usual for a game like this, and the number is
surprisingly Boston College is not taking money. I think this
may even come back a little bit. So I think
BC runs them off the floor. They played on Monday,
they looked pretty good. They lost a game that FAU
basically needed a steal a transition three, and I believe
they went into overtime and lost the game in overtime.
It was a good effort, it was a good game.
So I will make Boston College. I think we're at
minus sixteen and a half. That's going to be my
parlay leging Garth. I'm fine with that team total under
I think you could play them both. I think they're correlated.
Right there, go ahead, Brian, Yeah, just.
Speaker 4: I wanted to wrap up a few things you're talking
about the Citadel just to I've got them as a
bottom thirty team in the country right now. Maybe that's
even generous to be that high. You said, how you
don't think they may they may not win a Soacon
game this year. They did not win a Soacon game
last year. So how many teams, how many teams didn't
win a conference game?
Speaker 1: Line?
Speaker 4: That was a short list I feel, I mean looked
that up in.
Speaker 1: My opinion, like they're on paper they're much worse than
they were last year, which is very concerning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Ken Pop had them as a bottom
ten team by the end of the year last year.
So when I say bottom thirty, that might even be generous.
I did want to also cheap plug if I may.
You mentioned the red Bandana game trig obviously in football
I talked about that game if anyone would like my
opinion on SMU Boston College on the football field this weekend.
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one more point before we go to a different game, Trig,
I wanted to kind of give maybe a more firm
outlook on that Bethune Cookman Miami game that we kind
of talked about a little earlier. I would not bet
Bethune Cookman in this game. Not only is it the
second of back to back roadies against Power Conference teams.
Let's not forget they went to overtime against Auburn. Let's
not forget that they shot over fifty percent not just overall,
but nearly fifty five percent from three. I don't think
Bethune Cookman's going to shoot fifty five percent from three
for a second straight road game against the Power Conference team.
But that is just me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking about that that we could go
to Robber. We'll kind of like put you know, do
give this game the attention I suppose it deserves after
they nearly beat Auburn, took Auburn to overtime, but like
this was quickly bet up, which I agreed with. I
think this opened fourteen, quickly bet up to seventeen, like
before you could even blink. I think that's probably where
the beast the Bethune Cookman in Miami game six now
and again, I just I go back to Rob's point
and I'll let him bring this home. Quick turnaround having
to play another power conference team. You left it all
out on the floor, You played Auburn into overtime, played
extra basketball. Now you got to turn around, like I
don't even really care what your opinion is on Miami,
and I like this patuon Cookman team. I was saying yesterday,
I think that they could cast some tickets for you
as we get into like swack play and them playing
more competitive games. But this just seems like a horrific
spot for a lot of the things that Rob sort
of pointed out earlier. So I'll let him bring this
one home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's bring I'm staring at the screen here with
the comment from the chat, and I will just say
that these analysis won't be thesis.
Speaker 1: Oh I gotta I gotta give Jay Bunk a hard
time about that comment, but I'm gonna let you finish
Miami Urse real quick.
Speaker 2: I think the reason why they sound like thesis early
on is because we're trying to give everybody some sort
of feel or idea of what we're looking at with
these teams to start the season. Not everybody is, you know,
totally on top of college hoop right now. So I
just feel like it's our job in this sixty minutes
and Monday through Friday to give you the most we
know about these teams, about these coaching changes.
Speaker 3: You know, six.
Speaker 2: Games from now, there won't be in depth talk about
coaching changes, philosophy changes.
Speaker 3: We'll all know them by then.
Speaker 1: So I think, problem, I gotta jump.
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Speaker 4: And now to Brian Power, let's say on that note,
just to follow up, we don't like to leave any
stone unturned or leave any end loose. The Citadel was
the only team in the country that did not want
to come game last year, the only one. It was
a list of one. Yeah, just I wanted to just
you know, if people were wondering about that, just so
there was nobody else joining the Citadel on that.
Speaker 1: And I'll go to rock. Did you have anything final
to say on Miami Bathune Cookman before we move on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with everything that's been stated here already.
Speaker 3: Guys. I think it might be a little tough. I'm
bit due Cookman.
Speaker 2: Let's not forget that not only was that you know
we called it a lay it all out game, but
it's an extra five minutes played in that game where
you thought you were gonna win.
Speaker 3: There's potential to win that game.
Speaker 2: So it probably even goes beyond that and could be
a good selling point if you want to make the
Miami argument tonight. But again, like I said about Eastern Washington,
the three of us being in the business for as
long as we have, you know, you try to be
proactive with this stuff in the Eastern Washington. What's been
done the first two games probably applies way more to
Big Sky when we get there, or it may apply
it Thanksgiving a week or way. Ever, when they're in
these non conference matchups, were there a heavily priced underdog,
and the same with Bethune Cookman. I'd like to get
single these teams out early on. You like to forecast
ahead So keep an eye on Betune Cookman whether they
win or.
Speaker 3: Lose tonight against Miami.
Speaker 2: If they lose, it's excusable.
Speaker 3: If they don't, they.
Speaker 2: Got something going on down there with Reggie Theas.
Speaker 4: And one more thing with Bethune. Auburn had some home
cooking going. As far as the charity stripe went, Auburn
was plus twenty nine in free throw attempts. Yes, the
Auburn was twenty seven of thirty eight from the charity
stripe in that game. Bethune Cookman a poultry eight for nine,
So it was a home whistle there, Steven step Yeah, yeah,
So that that's something. I mean, it speaks well to right.
I mean, to have that kind of free throw disparity
go against you and to take Auburn and I mean,
that doesn't speak well to Auburn. But again, I think
we're all kind of in agreement that it's just you
come off a loss like that where you laid it
on the line forty five minutes, not just forty tough spot,
especially because the Thune's got shoot with the three as
well as they did the other night, no way.
Speaker 1: And just one other point there, like you know, maybe
it's a good in game betting opportunity, like you might
see them come out give a huge effort. We just
beat Auburn. We're gonna we you know, we think we
can win this game. First ten minutes they hang around
and then suddenly you can get a better number than
the what is now kind of an inflated number off
the open although again I think the number is probably
where it should be. I think that opener was was
quite low, being fourteen. I believe was where that one opened.
But again, just another way to look at it. Where
did my comment just go, oh, I have it on
the screen. Ethan Bainbridge. We're gonna see Ethan this weekend
at the Bowling Green game by myself and Brian looking
forward to that. He wants to know Jackson State plus
the Point. So one quality swack team to another. This
is gonna be Jackson State plus the Point. They're playing
Louisville tonight. Louisville won again. I don't does anyone remember
the final of that game on Monday. I know they
were up by sixty at one point against I think
South Carolina State. So I'll throw it to one of you,
one of you two obviously Louisville a massive favorite again
here thirty eight point favorite. But I know that the
two of you have kind of worked some team totals
into your you know, into the conversation with some of
these big spreads like this. So I'll go to Brian
first and then Rob can can follow up. Any way
to get into this Louisville Jackson State ate game for you.
Speaker 4: I like the over It was one O four to
forty five against South Carolina State. To be precise, there
trig so Louisville and then Jackson State. They didn't exactly
play good defense against Illinois, did they. They gave up
triple digits. Well, gave up one point five points per possession.
You know, that's something that I always will I'll talk
about throughout the year.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 4: It's not just that raw number that they're giving up.
But you know, we talk about tempo all the time.
Some games, you know, sometimes you know the number of
points you're giving up. It's tempo based. But points per possession,
to me, is always a very reliable metric, especially once
you get into conference play and and they give one
point five points per possession of jack That is really
really atrocious. So I think Louisville unless unless Louisville just
doesn't take the game seriously, comes in sleepwalks. I think
they're gonna put up There's no reason to believe they're
not gonna put up a big point total. Again, won't
be as big as the right. I don't know, but
I would just lean towards the over. Just over full game,
let's leave the team. Maybe Rob likes the team total
ango better here, but I would just bet the old.
Just just a traditional over in this spot. I think Louisville.
I think Jackson State is going to do enough to
help get this one over.
Speaker 3: And the team total here is one hundred. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 2: The two head coaches here, Pat Kelcey and Moe Williams
both really want to go fast. I don't think you
know Jackson State gives up those points the other night
because they're not going to slow down. Certainly, Pat kelce
teams are not going to slow down, so you're gonna
have a high scoring game here. Brian, I too would
have you know, we just talked about Jackson State gave
up over one hundred, Louisville scored over one hundred, So
why not Rob save Louisville team total over one hundred.
It's not that easy to get to one hundred. So
I'd probably be way more in line with you, Brian,
to say that this is going to.
Speaker 3: Be a high octane game.
Speaker 2: Louisville probably makes a whole boatloaded shots here. I don't
know that there's a lot of resistance on the Jackson
State defensive end, but you need to to get these
things up and over, and I do think Jackson State's
capable of, you know, especially in a game. We've talked
before about broken floor, easy buckets. In a game of
that style. This number doesn't actually.
Speaker 3: Appear all that high to me.
Speaker 2: It's been met up to one sixty two and a half.
That seems very real, like you could end up with
a ninety five seventy or I could see it and
you know, you cast your ticket here, So for me,
it would probably be full game over.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: One more thing, so, Louisville was up in the opener
fifty nine to fifteen at halftime. Again, just to what
we're saying here, if you don't think Louisville's gonna play
that well, again, here's the argument why you want to
not just isolate their team total. Jackson State, I think
shoots better than South Carolina State did against Louisville. Why
do I say that? Because South Carolina State against Louisville
shot twenty two point eight percent overall and just ten
and a half percent from three, two four nineteen. So
it wasn't even I mean, they got up an okay
volume of threes. I just think, I mean, is louis
so even if you so? That's why another reason I
think rob just play the traditional over here.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think Louisville's gonna put up those defensive numbers
back to back.
Speaker 3: Mates.
Speaker 4: That's just when you have a defense, when you have
when the oponent shoots that poorly, Yeah, you played some defense,
but it also wasn't the opponent's night if they're shooting
two for nineteen from three and twenty two percent overall
from the flour and real quick.
Speaker 2: Not to drag this out, but I'll think one more
point on top of that, the fact that Louisville was
up fifty nine to fifteen at halftime and didn't stop scoring,
or to tell you something about Pat Kelcey, from fifty
nine they went to one hundred and four. It's not
like they slowed down. That's an eighty two possession game,
they just kept going. I think that's probably what you'll
see tonight. And to your point, you'll probably see a
better offensive effort out of Jackson State.
Speaker 3: So it should get over that. Now.
Speaker 2: I hadn't really paid close attention to that game, but
as the three of us talk it out here, it
seems like that's a reasonable bit today.
Speaker 1: Well, and I'll just go back to Eaton's original point.
You know, his original point was, Hey, Jackson State plus
the points, Well that I mean, I think this conversation
would would lend itself to Jackson State plus the points.
Making sense, this opened at like thirty, it's up to
thirty eight. That's a pretty substantial Yeah, it's a pretty
substantial move. But like, here's the thing, Like, if you like,
if you like Jackson State plus the points, you probably
have to like the over as well. I feel like
those are a little bit correlated. I think you're gonna
need Jackson State to contribute to get to that over
and if they contribute at all. And here's the thing, Like,
Jackson State's another one of those couple teams at the
top of the swap that I think are going to
contend in that league this year. They're they're probably a
much better team than the team that Louisville played on Monday.
Just without like doing the numbers, I think i'd have
Jackson State a substantial favorite over what would I think
it was South Carolina State. Yeah, if you get any
sort of effort here from Jackson State, which you know,
they did play a big, a big team on opening
night in Illinois, but like by the second half of
that game, I think they just kind of said, ah,
we got another game in a couple of days, didn't
really play any defense. Game of fifty three points in
the second half. So Ethan, I'm with you. At the
current number, I could only like Jackson State, but I
think I'm with the boys here. I think I think
Over probably gets there in the end. All right, let's
keep it moving. I got about eight minutes left. I'll
go to Jay Buff. I wasn't giving him a herd.
Someone's like, don't get Jay Buff's my boy. He lives
ut he lives here in Syracuse. So we just we
just joked back and forth. I know he's met Brian.
I don't know if No's ever met him, but we uh,
he comes out to Turning Stone every once in a while.
We always have a good time. And I'm gonna go
to his game Quinnipiac Central Connecticut State because I have
an opinion on this one. Do we do what's the
current number on this I feel like it was moving
a little bit.
Speaker 2: I got it varies, Adam, anywhere from opener of nine
down to seven and a half. Or you can see
some eight and a half's out there too, so anywhere
between seven and a half and eight and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting game for me. This is this
is sort of like both in my neck of the woods,
any se versus mac. Here's the thing with Quinnipiac, and
I said this before the Monday's game against Saint John's.
I think Quinnipiac might be getting a little too much
credit for a Mario Monroe being on the roster. I mean,
he was a guy that could have probably went to
a high major if he wanted to leave Quinnipiac and
entered the portal. He didn't. He stayed. It's certainly huge
for them, but I have some question marks about the
rest of that team, so I think, like, and I
mean I'll give him a pass. Saint John's destroyed them
the other night. This is obviously like a much different
type game. But to turn around and think that they
should be like a nine and a half point favorite
here and now I kind of see that that's where
it opened at nine. It looks like it's eight most
places right now. I definitely sort of agree with that move.
Central Connecticut State is another one of these NEC teams that, like, so,
I was actually at the final last year, Central Connecticut
State Saint Francis ended up being a huge upset. The
gym was stunned and you could tell, like I mean,
everyone thought that they weren't going to win that game
go to the end tournament. That was sort of like
the team for them. It was you know, Jordan Jones,
I believe, was ended up being player of the Year
in that conference. He's a pro now, I mean, just
like it was like heartbreak City for a program that
finally thought they were going to go to the NCAA
tournament with that team. And so I think the fact
that they've lost the player of the Year is maybe
under valued them a little bit because they did lose
a couple of guys. But Pat Sellers is a fantastic
coach and this is still going to be a very
good Central Connecticut State team. So I'm just not dying
to lay nine here. With Quinnipiac, I would lean the dog.
I like plus eight eight and a half. Nine's if
if it comes back to nine, that's a good bet.
I lean towards Central Connecticut State. All right, back to
the comments, unless they either of you have anything to
add on that one. I didn't know if you guys
had anything to add on that one.
Speaker 3: I was guys at this totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go North Florida forty one and a half.
It's up to the Florida team total here, guys is
one oh five and a half. And I know North
Florida is an absolute disaster, right Matthew driscoll I think
you pointed it out the other day, Brian. He moved
on to be an assistant on the case state staff
and they've hired from within.
Speaker 3: But the problem is, not only do you lose.
Speaker 2: All five starters, but you only have like one guy
period back from last year's team. The question is, you know,
does Florida want to pound somebody after losing to Arizona
the other night? Do they want to take it easy?
Et cetera, et cetera. When I see one oh five
and a half, I think to myself, my goodness, that's
just a huge number. I'd love to go ahead and
take a whack at the under here on Florida's team total,
but I don't know that I can get there with
the current state of North Florida and not really knowing
where Todd Golden's mindset is going to be. Is he
going to drive these guys to get back on the
horse and drill somebody and get your confidence back, or
are they going to suffer a little bit of a
hangover here? My personal opinion what I would lean towards
the ladder somewhat of a hangover off of the Arizona game,
But it is at home in THEO that that's a
tough call there. Just that those numbers were very interesting
to me after we talked about the Louisville game.
Speaker 4: North Florida is one of those teams that obviously just
lives and dies with the three there. They're gonna hoist
a bunch of them up hope enough of them go in. Obviously,
Florida is not the kind of opponent you would think
that a lot of them are going to go in
you you think, I mean, this is one of those situations.
I mean, it could be a very long night for
the Ospreys if if they're not shooting well from three.
So I'll take the Campbell WVU game. By the way,
since we hit that under. Uh yeah, yeah, I kind
of agree. I think it might be another under here
against Campbell. Uh for West Virginia. We hit the under
against Mount Saint Mary's earlier in the week. H Campbell,
It's interesting, you know, guys, you're gonna look if you
just look at final scores. If you're so, oh, what
was the final score Campbell's first game, You're gonna see
they lost by thirty two points to Wisconsin. But that
was a five point game with just over eight minutes left.
That's what we call a bad eight minutes of basketball
rop to close things out, So kind of a misleading
final there for the Campbells. As a matter of fact,
a twenty nine to two run. If you're on the
wrong end of a twenty nine to two run, that's
not good. Campbell typically is better defensively. They typically guard
the three well and they don't play very fast. And
we talked about what Ross Hodge is going to do
in Morgantown, a fine college town. If I may add,
as he comes over from North Texas, I think it's
an I think it's back to back unders for dub
VU to start the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Any coach who says we're going to play like the
University of Houston, who wouldn't want to play like the
University of Houston? And you lean under with that guy
and he comes from North Texas.
Speaker 1: We are we are getting up against it. So I'll
wrap I'll wrap the show up. I will say this.
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justice during the hour, and we'll always end with a
three team parlay, which we hope hits. Yesterday's didn't hit,
but we started the year with back to back winning parlays.
So and also we're gonna keep a record because I
don't like when these shows give out picks and then
don't keep a record, like you got to keep the record.
So two and one on the parlay so far. But
more importantly the record, the parlay record is what the
units are. And if you for every dollar that you
put on the parlay so far, if you're obviously if
you're playing them even, you're up ten point ten dollars
and four of ten dollars and forty cents for every dollar.
That's a great start. We're gonna try to keep it
going today. So without further ado, one more time, the
three teamer for today comes out to plus five eighty
two odds. Shop around You can always do better, uh
if you shop around on these parlays. Brian Power is
gonna go with his alma mater, the Ohio Bobcats on
the money line minus one fifteen. I'm gonna go with
Boston College and lay the big number minus sixteen and
a half. And then we've got a full game total
for Rob Vino. That's you see Riverside North Dakota under
one p fifty. That's the three teamer today. We'll be
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