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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Jewish History Uncensored with Mark Shapiro. This is

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<v Speaker 1>season sixteen, episode twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of things to do before we even begin.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, I listened, as I always do. I listened

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<v Speaker 2>to the tape and I wasn't clear on something. So

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<v Speaker 2>let me clarify this, this business that a coin is

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to do. And if people hate him, what

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<v Speaker 2>the Mission of Burgh says it goes with the zoar

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<v Speaker 2>is it could be a sakhal. What does that mean sakanal?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it could be dangerous. So it

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<v Speaker 2>says that if a coin the seaboard hates him, or

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<v Speaker 2>he hates the seaboard, it's a sakana. The coing to

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<v Speaker 2>du Berkus cohen Eve. And that's when I raised the question.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned that the post can speak about Well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>say it's they hate him for a good reason. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that still a danger for him? Now, this issue, if

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<v Speaker 2>anyone's interested, is discussed in this book by Professor Tushma Create.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of his stuff was a Hebrew. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>in English studied Creativity and Tradition Studies in Medieval Orbinic scholarship,

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<v Speaker 2>on page one ninety three because the interesting thing is

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<v Speaker 2>there's no rabbinic source for this idea, that it's just

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<v Speaker 2>in the Zoar, the idea that the coing if the

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<v Speaker 2>people don't like him, if he doesn't like them, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a danger involved. What Tushma wants to argue is

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<v Speaker 2>this whole chapter tries to show Germanic Ashkenazic influence on

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<v Speaker 2>the Zoar, and he wants to say that this he

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<v Speaker 2>tries to bring a proof from an Arzarua that this

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<v Speaker 2>passage in the Zoa really is it's Ashkenazic residue. A

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<v Speaker 2>whole book that deals with byzantines and other stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>this in the Zoor, this chapter deals with Ushkin what

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<v Speaker 2>he calls the large residue of ashkin Nazi customs and

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<v Speaker 2>lore in the Zobar. So obviously presis the Zoar is

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<v Speaker 2>a medieval worker. That's what That's what he wrote about. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple other things. Oh, we spoke last class about

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<v Speaker 2>women's titles. I want to show you something and I

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<v Speaker 2>just saw this week. Okay, So there's this newspaper everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in the New York area knows and it's called the

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish Like it's not much of a newspaper. It's mostly

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<v Speaker 2>one big advertisement. Even the articles, most of them are

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<v Speaker 2>just you submit them. So the schools submit their articles,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had while you had two big pages this

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<v Speaker 2>week to try it. Here you see it. You have

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<v Speaker 2>right in the front official chacter you have. I also

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<v Speaker 2>know Abari Liebowitz. If you don't know about a Liebowitz

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<v Speaker 2>and you're in Hahaka, I highly recommend it. He has

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of online stuff about ten minutes fifteen minute hahah.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really spectacular. Also, notice that in the Haredi yeshiva

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<v Speaker 2>you never would have this. They all wearing hats. We

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<v Speaker 2>already spoke about them. In the Haredi world, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to wear a hat anytime you take a picture. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is but this is the ever shatter. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you have the younger Roasti Yeshiva. He's the most important

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<v Speaker 2>in the Roasti Shiva. And then you have some of

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<v Speaker 2>the younger ones. Okay, very nice, so trying to uh

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, bringing its advertising. But then they have

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<v Speaker 2>a problem because so what do you call the women?

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<v Speaker 2>So they have the same pad two pages later, Hold on, nope,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta get the gotta share again here, So look

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<v Speaker 2>what they do with the women. Uh, only one of

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<v Speaker 2>these women, by the way, is an academic scholar. The

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<v Speaker 2>rest of just tower teachers. They can't give them a title. Rather,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't give them any things. They call them all professor.

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<v Speaker 2>Professor doesn't mean you have a doctor or anything, just

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<v Speaker 2>means that you are a teacher at the university. But

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<v Speaker 2>so this is maybe being more conservative Paulus, because you

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<v Speaker 2>don't give the women a title. But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost blasphemous because you're using a goyaship term professor

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<v Speaker 2>and you're referring to as a for a tourer teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you ever needed a reason that there should

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<v Speaker 2>be a title, whatever it is for women tower teachers,

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is it. That we're calling women towers scholars.

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<v Speaker 2>The best we could do is give them the gualish

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<v Speaker 2>title professor, and not to mention the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 2>false advertising because most people think professor, they think of

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<v Speaker 2>like an academic type. These are totra teachers. But why

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot come up with a title. They can't do

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<v Speaker 2>any of the titles we spoke about, so they have

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<v Speaker 2>to call them all professor, which I guess you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to call them missus because so that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to give them some title. But I have

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<v Speaker 2>to correct myself. So I was through the Jewish link,

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<v Speaker 2>and remember I say last week, we can't use rob

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<v Speaker 2>on Neat. That's used in the Israeli schools, but we

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<v Speaker 2>can't use it. Saar can use it, but not the

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<v Speaker 2>other schools. Even Kushner won't use rob on Neat. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I noticed interestingly in the Jewish link as well. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>and behold, let me show you something here. Uh me

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<v Speaker 2>put up here there was an ad another ad old On.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta it's complicated here here it is uh for

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<v Speaker 2>the Synagogue Renot in t Neck. And look what they

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<v Speaker 2>have here. So take back what I said. They're having

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<v Speaker 2>an advertising there. Torah is by zoom and loll and

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<v Speaker 2>behold rob on Neat. Leastarna she's actually a Maha rat graduate.

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<v Speaker 2>But so Reno. So I guess I take back what

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<v Speaker 2>I said that Robert Meat is not used, because occasionally

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<v Speaker 2>you will have the title here. Of course that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. It's more liberal show the team neck. But

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<v Speaker 2>there you go. Okay, let's move on. I read this

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<v Speaker 2>book over Shampas I told you about it. Boyarn's book

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<v Speaker 2>Yeshiva Days Learning on the Lower East Side. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>great shopist read. I have to say that I really

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<v Speaker 2>have an appreciation for the Yeshiva now MTJ because your

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<v Speaker 2>sense when you read the book, and it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting book as an anthropologist. I mean he makes some errors.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, one of them, I don't know how he

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<v Speaker 2>makes it. He doesn't really come from an Orthodox background,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's been learning for a number of years. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know what halivey seerlds. He can't really explain it properly.

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<v Speaker 2>But what you sent, what you get from this book

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<v Speaker 2>is the uniqueness of MTJ in that it really is

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<v Speaker 2>a place just to learn tower. It's there's no when

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<v Speaker 2>you think of already yeshiva's today, you think of the

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<v Speaker 2>big Yeshiva's often Hushguffer and Dost tell you does tyra

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<v Speaker 2>all the things, And in mt J, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>sense you get. It's just Torah. No sheet of of

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<v Speaker 2>of a doctrine of politics, of this and that, just Torah.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's the there's a sense of tolerance for different views.

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<v Speaker 2>You could be a Zionist there, you could be a

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<v Speaker 2>Husted you could be all that, and Uh, I find it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sort of place that I would be very

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<v Speaker 2>happy if I was living in New York. Uh to

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<v Speaker 2>go there. You know, in the Yeshiva world, I use

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<v Speaker 2>the term sheetshuffers scuffer. That's what they call it in

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<v Speaker 2>in the literature Yeshivas, the dos tira and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>But Uh, in one of the criticisms of of of that,

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<v Speaker 2>someone writes the expression a huff there's no hush guffa

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<v Speaker 2>except for bad. It's a criticism of the Lithuani Yeshiva world.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? It actually is uh. If you

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<v Speaker 2>look in up she's just a few weeks ago. In

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<v Speaker 2>parss Vyeira, the Pussic says the ashkifu upi sdome And

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<v Speaker 2>what does Rashi say there from a micro Laura huts

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<v Speaker 2>that every time the word hashkif shaffa is used, except

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<v Speaker 2>for that one case, it's always negative. So uh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what some smart person said about the Lithuanian Tora word

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<v Speaker 2>their hush skuffa. By the way, one other sid thing

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<v Speaker 2>you get from this book is that they're smart alecs

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<v Speaker 2>at emptj and that's the old tradition. I know the

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<v Speaker 2>younger people have a hard time with this. Uh, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're always gonna have smart alecs whenever you're training, uh

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<v Speaker 2>trying to train people be independent minded, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>old lifish away, You're always gonna have people with their

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<v Speaker 2>own ideas. We saw on the remember of the Curasses

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<v Speaker 2>on the Shanghai the students revolted and said, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to listen to the Dostar. We want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Shanghai. You're always gonna have that. You can't have

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<v Speaker 2>prosidium and you can't have uh just yes, people. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to create the Doolia ser you want to

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<v Speaker 2>create great tors scholars, you need to have independent minded people.

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<v Speaker 2>And therefore, whenever you have independent minded people, you're always

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<v Speaker 2>going to have people with their own ideas independent and

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<v Speaker 2>he describes a couple of smart he looks in the book.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's part for the course for the Licashire world.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of so one of you asked me about Redove,

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<v Speaker 2>it is it true? He really didn't right, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have Maybe they'll publish, but if you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of his zuckem, the best thing is this

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<v Speaker 2>book two volumes it's called the Debarta bomb. It's look

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<v Speaker 2>how thick it is. This is volume two. It's written

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<v Speaker 2>by a student. His name is A Muskowitz. That's bomb

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<v Speaker 2>Barth Muskwitz. He's the son of the late Irving Moskowitz

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<v Speaker 2>who gave all that money to uh, you know, expand

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<v Speaker 2>Jerusalem into the Arab side settlements, et cetera. Every after

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<v Speaker 2>every in every tuva. Here he records things they heard

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<v Speaker 2>from his Rebbie Redubic. Okay things. Howard Handler writes to

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<v Speaker 2>me that first of all, I we get the screen

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<v Speaker 2>up a minute. Again on the screen, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>page just we dealt with Rabbi I told you he

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<v Speaker 2>went up to he goes at Harrabaiit we saw the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>So someone asked me, well, doesn't doesn't don't Mara coas

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<v Speaker 2>people not go to Harribite. No, it's not true. This

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<v Speaker 2>is split among miracas. And he has an article. You

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<v Speaker 2>can read the article here in which he explains why

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<v Speaker 2>he goes up. And he says, there see who'd have

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<v Speaker 2>changed his mind? He said, if I Goren tells you

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<v Speaker 2>where you can go, then you can go. I also

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot to mention that his name, say A lot

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<v Speaker 2>is from Shivis. Tell me, but uh, I made a mispronunciation.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to Howard. I pronounced this. I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know Italian, but I said that it's Hebrew. I

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<v Speaker 2>said it's written Ricci. I said, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's Ricy. It turns out it's not. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 2>should have known. That's because ponte Vecchio to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the ponte Vecchio in Venice, that's also Hi. On the

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<v Speaker 2>other hand, I was confused because this guy in Italian

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<v Speaker 2>that's pronounced Ricci, who is Mattalio Ricci. Mattalo Ricci is

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<v Speaker 2>the Jesuit who first Jesuit in China. He's the one

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<v Speaker 2>that really had the first contact with the Kaifang Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in China, I tracked down his grave

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<v Speaker 2>and I took a picture of it because it's on

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<v Speaker 2>the communist school grounds, and I sent it to my

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<v Speaker 2>colleagues because I work at a Jesuit university. The other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>two other things that Howard told me. I mentioned that

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<v Speaker 2>Thou Shalt not kill is a mistranslation, and I said

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the King James version. Howard, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>pointing out that the Rush bomb already mentions this the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that dal shalt not kill, and Latin goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to the vulgate and thank you for that. And the

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<v Speaker 2>last thing is he says that I should give credits,

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<v Speaker 2>which I will right now, and this will then end

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<v Speaker 2>funt War, we lost so many important people this year

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, it's really unbelievable. And one of them was

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<v Speaker 2>jose Funtwar. And he in his book on the Mission

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<v Speaker 2>of Torah. You remember Mission of Tora, he already points

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<v Speaker 2>out page one six, that's the page yes one six

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the same and others who really count belief. But

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<v Speaker 2>suggest otherwise. It's not a commandment. There's no such existential

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<v Speaker 2>existentialism type commandment for the real bum. Okay, so thank

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<v Speaker 2>you havu. Okay, everyone, we are now picking up. You

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<v Speaker 2>speak more. Let me show you another picture of him

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<v Speaker 2>with yours truly here he is. That's the image of

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<v Speaker 2>his father, the Rezus, who was assessed killed by Palestinian

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<v Speaker 2>terrorists in Tunis in nineteen seventy one in in his

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you call it. Uh. First of all, when you

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<v Speaker 2>no one else like this. Where every other paragraph he's

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<v Speaker 2>in the Haredi world. He's like in the middle is.

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<v Speaker 2>what happened in beIN a Brak, and he says that

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<v Speaker 2>muffdal Osma. So what ishmvda mak Muftan Maffdala Nikim. They

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<v Speaker 2>are members of the National religious Party sham Haridim, that

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<v Speaker 2>they're just as religious as the Haredim. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone, just for release and against the Yeshiva world

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<v Speaker 2>He worked and then he says, they say about me

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm against colo students. He says, I never said that.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, we have one hundred students Colo students and

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<v Speaker 2>take tests. And then he says, would that every colo

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<v Speaker 2>pay them like we did? He said, but I debarting

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<v Speaker 2>naked Agloo Shambokolo, He says, I spoke against those who

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<v Speaker 2>sit in colo and they don't do tests and they

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a cultural decision in that community have to

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<v Speaker 2>just sit in the colo and are not really focused serious,

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<v Speaker 2>They're just doing it as part of their lifestyle. What

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<v Speaker 2>about the fact that they signed to Katuba to say

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<v Speaker 2>anna a fach that he's don't evoke your far nay

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<v Speaker 2>that I have to support my wife. And he says,

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<v Speaker 2>a few He calls them brushen you know a little

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<v Speaker 2>He says, you have to go out and get a

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<v Speaker 2>work and get a job. What did the rombum say?

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<v Speaker 2>The rumbum says, you should work three hours a day

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<v Speaker 2>and then learn nine hours a day. And he quotes

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<v Speaker 2>hours a day. And he goes on how the Amari

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<v Speaker 2>to nim they all worked. And the Rabbi of Gerber

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<v Speaker 2>And then he goes on and on of Kaduri, he

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<v Speaker 2>used to work, He bound books, et cetera, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>And he says that all you people in co well,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're like going to be the superstars, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a good voice, become a hazan, give sheheri. Do

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<v Speaker 2>what you can to to support yourself. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>the Hredi world. So I wrote to him to the question.

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<v Speaker 2>you something here. I'm gonna pull up on this. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>when you I'm there, Cashana, but also when you see

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<v Speaker 2>uh lightning here you see it? Okay, what is what

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<v Speaker 2>does this mean? Osama with the word oh sin? First

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<v Speaker 2>of all, we have to find out if there's under

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<v Speaker 2>the sin, is there a secle or a say. I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at all the signurim in my house, I have

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<v Speaker 2>sacks burned down. Seems Shaham Seem Shalom is the conservative center.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't see it on my bookcase. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to hide it behind. But it's important for me to

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<v Speaker 2>And that's actually different than the old If you looked

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<v Speaker 2>in use for decades, the little black one. I forget

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<v Speaker 2>who edited it. It's basically the same as the Orthodox,

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<v Speaker 2>except for they take out references to sacrifices like even

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<v Speaker 2>a Schwannasari. But the Seamsham is a completely new sitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the new RCA sitter. Incidentally, you're gonna see.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're gonna see today, You'll see next class.

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<v Speaker 2>How not only are of Mazous but also yours truly

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<v Speaker 2>are in the new r c A Citter. Try to

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<v Speaker 2>or next class that is responsible for something in the

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<v Speaker 2>new RCA Sitter. So that's that's my claim to fame.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess all these see Duram I just mentioned in

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<v Speaker 2>this Brokhla have a say or have a segment like

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<v Speaker 2>we see right now, Oh Sam Sebrici. However, the Matsuda

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<v Speaker 2>sitter can ma Suda center. You can take it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Matsuda citter. I like it very much. It's a interlinear

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<v Speaker 2>sitter that has a say ing on it. Black men

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<v Speaker 2>missionaios that I have on my shelf over there has

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<v Speaker 2>a sayory. The art scroll Talmud has a segal, but

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<v Speaker 2>the art scrow missionarios have a saying what's the difference,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the difference to vocalization as well? If there's a segal,

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<v Speaker 2>then the word should be translated in the present tense.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Sama cebri sheet and we'll get the translation in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute when I say present, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>speak about uh Tanach as well in a few minutes. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>Biblical Hebrew does not know tenses like past, present, in

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<v Speaker 2>future be though we use it Biblical Hebrew has the

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<v Speaker 2>part of simple. This is the part of simple, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have what's the perfect and the imperfect. But

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<v Speaker 2>it basically generally equals what we call the present tense. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you look at this brocola here o sam Ma

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<v Speaker 2>sebre sheet. That should be translated as the who creates creation? Right. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to how that's translated. The work of creation?

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<v Speaker 2>Who creates or is creating? Uh, the work of creation? However,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a saint ray there, then it should be

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a now in the construct form and

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<v Speaker 2>would be maker of heaven and earth. I found a

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<v Speaker 2>mistake in the JPS translation JPS, the old JPS, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know new JPS. If you look in verse fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>year uma and I residy of the Lord oh Ssha

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<v Speaker 2>mayav arens who made heaven and earth. That's incorrect, though

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<v Speaker 2>it's not pastens who made heaven and earth. Well we'll

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<v Speaker 2>let's go back now to this braha and see if

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<v Speaker 2>the translations follow. So see if the translations what is

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<v Speaker 2>that we'll get to that translations follow the rule. Art

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<v Speaker 2>Stroll we're gonna see, by the way. Today as well,

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<v Speaker 2>art scrow has does an amazing thing. It gets something

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<v Speaker 2>be honest. I criticize artcroll today, but art scroll does

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<v Speaker 2>Art scroll has a secle translate so Sea miche who

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<v Speaker 2>makes the work of creation? Okay, maybe that not the

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<v Speaker 2>most felicitous translation, but it's correct. Uh. The new RCA

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<v Speaker 2>translates who makes the phenomena of creation? Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that either, but it's we Uh. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>like artscroll better. Sacks Rabbi Sacks Christ. I have this

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<v Speaker 2>sitter here. I look, I mean what I'm telling you now,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote when he was alive, so I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 2>anything improper within a period shortly after his passing. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say that there's a lot of mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>in his sitter in terms of the translation, and he

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<v Speaker 2>makes a mistake here as well. He translates this for

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<v Speaker 2>says author of creation. In other words, he makes O

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<v Speaker 2>se the now when it's in the construct, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>it's a verb there. So there's no way it can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sem o see sheet can be author of creation.

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<v Speaker 2>Sim shall oh. By the way, conservative one also makes

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<v Speaker 2>its source of creation. That's a mistake. So art throw

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<v Speaker 2>gets it right. However, what do you do about in

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<v Speaker 2>the arts Crow Sitter and pasukaz Inra we have this verse.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see, by the way, Joe Biden the other

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<v Speaker 2>day he pulled a trump because he said the palm

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<v Speaker 2>and the promised. I don't know where he got that from.

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<v Speaker 2>This S is not silent. Sometimes S is silent. You

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<v Speaker 2>can go on YouTube and you can see Obama when

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<v Speaker 2>he referred to the marine corpse. No one told him

408
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<v Speaker 2>that that the S and that is silent. So we

409
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<v Speaker 2>can all make mistakes. But here's this verse in six.

410
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<v Speaker 2>Look in verse six. Here we all know this. Uh

411
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:08.920
<v Speaker 2>say this all the time. Oh Sasha Maya Viris who

412
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:12.240
<v Speaker 2>made heaven and earth? That's how they translated. But again

413
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:17.400
<v Speaker 2>this is jps It's the problem. It's not h art scroll.

414
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<v Speaker 2>If you look in art Scroll with Psika and Zimmer,

415
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 2>they translate this Pussic mistakenly maker of heaven and Earth. Again,

416
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:28.839
<v Speaker 2>it can't be that because it's a verb. Sachs gets

417
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:32.160
<v Speaker 2>it right here. Who made Uh No, no, sorry, Sachs

418
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:35.559
<v Speaker 2>gets it wrong. It follows jps, who made heaven and Earth? Now,

419
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>why am I say this isn't this is not correct? Well,

420
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:39.759
<v Speaker 2>first of all, it's a part of simple. But look

421
00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:43.680
<v Speaker 2>in this, look in this peric of Taylor. The very

422
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.680
<v Speaker 2>next verb is that same verse a Schomer Metola keep

423
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:49.599
<v Speaker 2>the truth forever? Next verse, oh Sam mische but Lasha

424
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Kim executes justice for the oppressed. Oh hey, Sunny King

425
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>show Maretha gay Ring. Everything is participle, so of course

426
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:00.279
<v Speaker 2>this would also be part of simple. But why do

427
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>they translate it made, not made? Because what does it

428
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.519
<v Speaker 2>mean to make heaven and earth? It's this is something

429
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:08.079
<v Speaker 2>happened in the past, right, So why would it be?

430
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Why would you has to be passed? It's not present. No,

431
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:18.160
<v Speaker 2>this implies, this pussle implies the continuing worker creation. Just

432
00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>like you see in the center, me my cebrations, God

433
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 2>is he recreates as it were every day, my separation.

434
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:30.440
<v Speaker 2>That's what this pussica is saying. And art give credits

435
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:35.599
<v Speaker 2>to the RCA new RCA center alone among all the sduriam.

436
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.559
<v Speaker 2>It translates it who makes heaven and Earth? That's not

437
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 2>it has to be translated. Let me give you another example.

438
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:43.799
<v Speaker 2>This is all working our way up to what I

439
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 2>asked her of Mazous. This is a broa we say

440
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:55.279
<v Speaker 2>with et cetera, et cetera. Bonnet Usha. There's a say

441
00:26:55.359 --> 00:27:00.599
<v Speaker 2>ray under the nun didn't say bonnette, it says so

442
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 2>what does that mean? Uh? Since there's a say under it,

443
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>it means it's not a herb, it's a now an

444
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 2>arts Grow correctly translates it as builder of Jerusalem and

445
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 2>also the new RCAA burned DOWNE gets it right. However,

446
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Sachs and also the solo pool and seem shalelm are mistaken.

447
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Sacks renders boney or Shillelium as if there's a cycle.

448
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 2>He translates it as who builds Jerusalem? Well, actually, no,

449
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that's yeah, who builds Jerusalem? No, that's uh. I guess

450
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that Maybe that is correct, the builder of Jerusalem? Who

451
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:42.480
<v Speaker 2>builds erusalm?

452
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Is? I think?

453
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Get back? That would work, I guess, But uh, stam,

454
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>what does goel? You show me the very next Brahra?

455
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Does it mean redeemer of Israel? Do all the blessing

456
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:58.359
<v Speaker 2>follow this model? What Aboutnea? God arts Girl translates giver

457
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>of wisdom, seeing it as a noun, sachs as a verb.

458
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Conana dodge, who graciously grants wisdom. So you have to

459
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the question is what do all these things mean? Are

460
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>they nouns? Are the verbs? Is their consistency? What about?

461
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Let me show you another one here, may may team

462
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Let me show you here the okay, how do you translate? Uh? Well,

463
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to share it here, I will share how

464
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 2>do you translate this? Brook at the end and the

465
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>last one, venamma talam marye may sing is that a verb?

466
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Arch Girl translates to who resist recal states today arts

467
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Girl thinks it's a verb. Secks agrees, But the Matsuda

468
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>sitter has it as a resurrector of the dead. And

469
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>really that's how what I believe it should be, because

470
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Mehayeh would be with, for example in the previous paragraph

471
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>that that's the verbal form. So we I don't want

472
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>to spend too much time on it. We can go

473
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>through it. Matsuda is consistent in everything. They they make

474
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>it as if it's a noun form. Others are not

475
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:34.039
<v Speaker 2>so clear. Whether it goes back and forth. You could

476
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 2>take a look and you can be whatever on line.

477
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:37.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to spend the time. It's as simple

478
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>to understand it while I'm speaking here. The question, though

479
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I asked, I asked Rabbi Mazus is the problem is

480
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 2>there's a few places in Tanah where the word said

481
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 2>as as Ashkenas say, say Svardin and Sardin by the

482
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:02.799
<v Speaker 2>way pronounced and sego the exis same way. That's how

483
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>modern Israelis do it. If you ask in Israeli how

484
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to say book in Hebrew, he'll say, Sehner. This isn't

485
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:12.720
<v Speaker 2>just an Israeli thing. This is actually the old Spardak way.

486
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>So there's no difference for Saradim. If you tell them

487
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 2>a have to repeat parsha zaher twice because you have zechr,

488
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.000
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't know what you're talking about because they pronounce

489
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Seyra and segel the exact same way. So when you

490
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>hear in Israeli sayefer, it's not an Israeli modern thing.

491
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:32.039
<v Speaker 2>It goes. It's the old Stardak way of doing it.

492
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:35.599
<v Speaker 2>But you have examples where it seems clear that it's

493
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>a that it's a verb, even though it has a

494
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>say ray, So what uh, what Ramazou's I don't need

495
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 2>to give the details because we don't want to get

496
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>two technical But Rebbie Mamazou says to me just that

497
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>he explains one that it could be the not really

498
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a verb but a noun, and the others. He says,

499
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:01.799
<v Speaker 2>you have to say that the sai ray sometimes is

500
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 2>in place of a segal. There's always going to be

501
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>exceptions in the Hebrew language. That's uh So if you

502
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>go through schwanstri and you go through all them and

503
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 2>you conclude, for example, machea ma team, what does it mean,

504
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:19.319
<v Speaker 2>it means the resuscitator of the dead. Then you you

505
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>try to put them all together and all the other brothers,

506
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna come that some there's gonna be some inconsistency.

507
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>That's just the way it is with Hebrew grammar. But

508
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I do think that when you get to the word

509
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 2>nekaya where you where you think that it should be

510
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>a verb, it should be with the sai ray, it

511
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 2>should be a segal. If you want see us a ship,

512
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>for instance, use this segal, this sitter. This is a

513
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>sitter from Rome, the old italianissa that has it with

514
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:51.160
<v Speaker 2>a segal. So let's leave with this I don't want

515
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 2>to get too into much into grammar, but next time

516
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>when you're in show on chops, take a look and

517
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>take a look at how these are translated. There's no

518
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 2>question that sex is wrong on these translations. They translate

519
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:04.359
<v Speaker 2>an Artscor's correct and RCA is correct. He's translating things

520
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 2>as verbs that are really Now we're going to see

521
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>another example where sex makes a mistake in a little bit.

522
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 2>The next question is number one oh four, and that

523
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 2>asked the simple question to revy Masus. We have a

524
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>braha in schwan Estray. It's called meaning well, we say

525
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>it three times a day. If you're an Ashkenazi, you

526
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>can look at it. You have hove, etcetera, et cetera.

527
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 2>The Kabara says that this was written by Schmuljakatan at

528
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the direction of I believe against the heretics. Who are

529
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 2>these heretics the meaning? We usually assume that these are

530
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 2>the early Judeo Christians. There's been a lot written on

531
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the meaning. Who the meaning were? In fact, I just

532
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.759
<v Speaker 2>saw a new article that came out about it. But

533
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 2>let's assume it's the Judeo Christians. The problem is when

534
00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 2>you look at this paragraph it's called beer costs a meaning,

535
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.599
<v Speaker 2>but there's nothing in it about the meaning. If you

536
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 2>read it, it's has vary the slanderers and then evil,

537
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>so there's nothing in there about meaning. If you look

538
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.039
<v Speaker 2>at art scroll, the arts scroll doesn't know what to make.

539
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Arts girls has this whole thing that is machining because

540
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 2>they were the heretic, and it's all nonsense. This is

541
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 2>no medieval text. No original text has machine. Machine is

542
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.720
<v Speaker 2>from the sensors. All the original texts have it begins

543
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 2>villamshue madem and any menium. Those are the two words.

544
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.319
<v Speaker 2>In fact, in some it doesn't say mashue madin it

545
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>actually has no stream. Christians the spar Deem have it

546
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 2>half right. They have the la machine, they have the Moudy.

547
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>They take out mashue Madem and they but they still

548
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>have meaning. I think because in the men was understood

549
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>to refer to Christians. So in the Spardak world you

550
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>can refer negatively to people who become Christians that they

551
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 2>should be uprooted. But you couldn't say that about prostates

552
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>to Islam. So instead it was the word was changed

553
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 2>until our day, no sea during correctedness or so I

554
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 2>wrote in my book changing the Immutable, even the Renati stroll,

555
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>which did a lot to update and correct, do not make,

556
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>do not change it. Then it was pointed out to me, however,

557
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 2>that there are sea during for example. For example, if

558
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you look in this citter, this is published in Vienna

559
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 2>about eight years seven years ago. Let's see, I believe

560
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.360
<v Speaker 2>it's uh no, no, it's in Vienna in twenty sixteen.

561
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.679
<v Speaker 2>This wasn't pointed out to Nise another sitter was I

562
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 2>saw this when I was in Vienna. This is by

563
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the rabbis in the Vienna community, and it

564
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 2>gets rid of all the censorship. Everything's exact, and if

565
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:48.800
<v Speaker 2>you look in the shortest ray, it's yehs it right

566
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 2>moscheue mad Malta meaning craig ad. That's the original version

567
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.679
<v Speaker 2>of it. Uh So, I asked rug Muscles, why doesn't

568
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 2>because he published a sitter it's called the siderramadu Yak.

569
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.519
<v Speaker 2>It's an exact citter in terms of the Sparda nus,

570
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 2>with explanations on where they got everything. It's it's really detailed.

571
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 2>And yet that still has the classic Spartak version, which

572
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>is I think it's a minimu a machine MANI Corniolydor.

573
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 2>I think that's where it is, so why not go

574
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 2>back that? Why are we still using a false text?

575
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 2>And it is it doesn't really have a good answer.

576
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.119
<v Speaker 2>He says, yes, the original version of mad but this

577
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 2>has been totally forgotten. It's been taken out. And he

578
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.639
<v Speaker 2>mentions also everywhere the Gomorrow you look in the original

579
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 2>gamarra Is they used the headword machu machumer, but there

580
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>was changed to Mumar. I don't know why Mumar was

581
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 2>thought not as bad as maschumed. But so he says,

582
00:35:56.360 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>we say mini machining because that also includes Schumadi, and

583
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:04.159
<v Speaker 2>because a man mushumad the same thing. Even the menim

584
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, reject to the oneness of God. And of course,

585
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 2>and he says the machine ume the slanderers did all

586
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 2>sorts of bad things to the Jews. He doesn't really

587
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:16.440
<v Speaker 2>answer my question as to why not do the original version.

588
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yakamenetski used to do the original version even though no

589
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Sigurian in his day had it. Why My question to

590
00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Revmazeus is his sitter is the sinner ramadu yak, which

591
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I have behind me for maybe later I get it

592
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>up there but and show you some things in it.

593
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 2>But if you're gonna have a sitter hma do ya

594
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.199
<v Speaker 2>and he got they corrected all the other problems in

595
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the sitter, Why keep that? I have to say, he

596
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:45.280
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really have a good answer to do that. Yes,

597
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>and the sinner I was looking at is by Rabbi

598
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:54.079
<v Speaker 2>schomhuffmeister of the end. Yes. Okay, so that's Simon kof Zion.

599
00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Now we get to Simon show you up something for

600
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:12.480
<v Speaker 2>you here. I'm gonna show you something you all know

601
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:17.519
<v Speaker 2>or you think you know, because here we have a Donabo.

602
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Don't we all know a Donahue? Why art school doesn't

603
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 2>put it at the end of Dophinin I don't know.

604
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 2>But as far as I know, it's pretty universal. And

605
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 2>listen to modern orthodoxials say it in a doin. But okay,

606
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 2>coming in largest a bit, so you see it famous adnom?

607
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:43.039
<v Speaker 2>What are the first words mean of aDNA hum? That's

608
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 2>my question for you. Oh wait a second, hold on,

609
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<v Speaker 2>I skipped to pay. I skipped I couldn't play. I

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<v Speaker 2>skipped something. We're gonna go back to that. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go back to that because I skipped something. M Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go out of order by mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>I turned to pages and I skipped, so let's stop there.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other ones are quick. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to it alone. But uh, just the Simon

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<v Speaker 2>one oh four, I just, I just I asked him something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not it's not the sort of thing it's easy

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<v Speaker 2>to explain unless you have a mishnaias in front of you.

619
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<v Speaker 2>But I quoted something that Shadal Schmoldvsato said, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to know if he bought it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a new interpretation of the missioner. And he says about Shadal.

622
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<v Speaker 2>Hah obviously knows shad We know Shadal backwards and forwards.

623
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<v Speaker 2>The typical Ashkenazi towarst scholar, if they've even heard of Shadal,

624
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<v Speaker 2>they've never read it or assuse no Shadal backwards and followards.

625
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<v Speaker 2>But he says, Mohammas, he does new things, and he

626
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<v Speaker 2>creates trouble. Basically, he says that he in some places

627
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<v Speaker 2>he disputes with the interpretations of Hazel, and he does

628
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<v Speaker 2>and he does do his view even in practice. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's true about Shadah. I'll tell you what he's alluding

630
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<v Speaker 2>to here, Shudau sometimes interprets the although he's he's regarded

631
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<v Speaker 2>as Orthodox in the Ower world. In modern Orthodox world

632
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<v Speaker 2>they like to quote him and everything. But there there's

633
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<v Speaker 2>one I know in particular, he interprets the verse that

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<v Speaker 2>against shaving with a razor. He says that it only

635
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<v Speaker 2>applies and he says only place in the colonyme or

636
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what he says, and it doesn't apply

637
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<v Speaker 2>the way we understand what has I understand it that

638
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<v Speaker 2>applies to everyone. And he says that alaha, and I said,

639
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<v Speaker 2>I adopted this for me. So when you see a

640
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<v Speaker 2>picture of Shadal he doesn't have a beer. And he

641
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<v Speaker 2>tells us in a letter that he shaved with a

642
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<v Speaker 2>razor because he thought that was shot in the pustle.

643
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<v Speaker 2>Now that's on the other hand, Shadah was he trained

644
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 2>all the rabbis of Italy. He was like, and this

645
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<v Speaker 2>was a private I guess you would say idiosyncrasy that

646
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<v Speaker 2>he says in a letter. And he says, I don't

647
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<v Speaker 2>tell I don't pusk him this because I'm not a

648
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<v Speaker 2>post sag. He doesn't go around to you what to do.

649
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<v Speaker 2>But privately he thinks that this is the shot. Well,

650
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<v Speaker 2>the rush Bomb came up with all sorts of shots

651
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<v Speaker 2>on what is going to the rush Bomb shot is

652
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<v Speaker 2>a film. It is not to be taken literally. Rushbomb

653
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<v Speaker 2>says that when you free, you know you're supposed to

654
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<v Speaker 2>free the slave. He says, well, I mean to Yovo,

655
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<v Speaker 2>you could free He's supposed to free the Yovo. This

656
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<v Speaker 2>the rush Bomb has many examples where he interprets, but

657
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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't do it in practice. He's saying, that's the shot,

658
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<v Speaker 2>so shut that's a problem. I have to be honest,

659
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<v Speaker 2>that's a problem if you want to use Somebody included

660
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<v Speaker 2>him in my book The Limits of Orthodox Theology because

661
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<v Speaker 2>he's been part of the canon, even though he has

662
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<v Speaker 2>some unusual views. But he also says, nevertheless, there are

663
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<v Speaker 2>times that he stood firm against the musculine and therefore

664
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<v Speaker 2>people treat him with the respect. For instance, he was

665
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<v Speaker 2>the primary person arguing against the idea of the Doudo

666
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<v Speaker 2>Isaiah that there are to Isaiahs, and he gave very

667
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<v Speaker 2>strong arguments against there being too isaiahs. So Rev. Maazus

668
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like this second Isaiah. Therefore shout with that sense

669
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 2>has to be praised. The I mean the the two

670
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 2>Isaiah it's not really a dogmatic that trinal thing. In

671
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<v Speaker 2>the Rabbinical Seminary of Berlin, Professor Barth who was Zad

672
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.199
<v Speaker 2>seimer Son, he was a great Bible scholar. He taught

673
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<v Speaker 2>the Second Isaiah to all the students at the Berlin

674
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<v Speaker 2>Rabbinical Seminary. You've been Ezra. You look at the beginning

675
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<v Speaker 2>of peric and forty men it beIN Isra says that

676
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<v Speaker 2>he alludes to it as he always does, but it's

677
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 2>a different different prophet hurts somewhere rights it hurts in

678
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<v Speaker 2>his parish, and Clublish writes, this is not an issue,

679
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's not an issue. What's the difference? Really? I

680
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<v Speaker 2>don't think so. Yeah, you could say it's a prophecy,

681
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 2>but whatever, it's not really in at least the Verbinical

682
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Seminary of Berlin didn't think it was dogmatic. The next tuva,

683
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.559
<v Speaker 2>we'll get to the Odlum. There's also a quick one.

684
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<v Speaker 2>I asked him. I asked him a few questions, most

685
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<v Speaker 2>of them are not of interest to us, except for this.

686
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<v Speaker 2>I asked him about the min hug in Tunisia. Why

687
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<v Speaker 2>don't we ask him that? Because I found in well,

688
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 2>first Tunisia oh, well, holden, he's gonna tell us that

689
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.760
<v Speaker 2>even today. What I'm going to ask him about is

690
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.039
<v Speaker 2>the min hug in Tunis that we're gonna speak with

691
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.119
<v Speaker 2>right now. And if you're wondering, tunis minhug, what's going on?

692
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<v Speaker 2>There's a yidden and Tunis.

693
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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

694
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<v Speaker 2>Let me show you a good picture here when I

695
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:32.360
<v Speaker 2>was well. First, here is the synagague of Tunis, the

696
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<v Speaker 2>main one. There's more than one. There's two functioning shows

697
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>in Tunis. This is the show and look it has

698
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<v Speaker 2>the tetragrammaton right on the front. I took this picture

699
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<v Speaker 2>when I was there a you're a year ago, less

700
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 2>than a year ago January. I was there before I

701
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.159
<v Speaker 2>put to Morocco. Some of you were with Morocco with me.

702
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>We're told in the Ashkenazic world in Europe, you know

703
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>that only the Reformers put the tetragrammaton on the show

704
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 2>like that. I mentioned that on our Central Europe trip.

705
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Until he gets a progue and progue you see that

706
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 2>they also did it on the flag. But generally this

707
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:12.079
<v Speaker 2>is the reformers and the Orthodox rabbies were very upset

708
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.119
<v Speaker 2>with this, but not a soo. Let me show you

709
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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I can't take a picture of the big

710
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Speaker 2>show in there. But there's a little base Metrish And

711
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 2>if you go to Tunis today, you have a nice here.

712
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Here's a in like the little base Matriss on the

713
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 2>side of the show. I let me show you. You

714
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.840
<v Speaker 2>have a school there for boys and a school for girls,

715
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and the kids come together every night and they learn. Uh.

716
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.159
<v Speaker 2>It's not as religious a community as Gerba, by no

717
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<v Speaker 2>means a typical SPARGI like if you know Syrians, other

718
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:48.280
<v Speaker 2>thing typical, Like for example, I was with someone and

719
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.159
<v Speaker 2>we walk out of the show and I put something

720
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.920
<v Speaker 2>in his pocket. They never do that inera Gerba. They're

721
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 2>so mock bid. They have an area of some of

722
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 2>the people in Tune are very observant. Oh these are

723
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:06.400
<v Speaker 2>just whatever. You know, they're observant, but they're not super observant.

724
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.519
<v Speaker 2>But so this is this, Uh it was I took

725
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>this into this and uh this was before Minha. In

726
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:18.639
<v Speaker 2>the evening the kids come together to learn extra So

727
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:23.079
<v Speaker 2>there's civil community there with the school and the food

728
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and uh the butcher shop which is right near the shore.

729
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe it. I'm walking down with my baseball

730
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>hat my toror emotion. My wou want if you know that,

731
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>because no one knows. Only once in all my travels,

732
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:38.639
<v Speaker 2>this guy in Amsterdam a year and a half ago,

733
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the train thing and he starts talking to me.

734
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:43.719
<v Speaker 2>He says, oh, you must be Jewish. I said, you're

735
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<v Speaker 2>hat But no one knows what to tower means. I guess,

736
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 2>so I'm wearing it. I don't have a problem. And well,

737
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:50.719
<v Speaker 2>and behold this guy with the big black kamaka is

738
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Speaker 2>right there, friend from at the butcher store. So I'm

739
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>speaking to him. I said, he comes from Gerbi, he's

740
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 2>the butcher and I he said, isn't it a problem

741
00:44:58.519 --> 00:44:59.559
<v Speaker 2>you're walking around the street with them?

742
00:44:59.679 --> 00:44:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Ga?

743
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>No, no, everyone knows me And I don't know, because

744
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 2>about six months before that there was a big rally

745
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.440
<v Speaker 2>right in front of that show, an anti Israel rally.

746
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 2>So I would never wear them. Well, I wear it

747
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 2>when I go to the UAE. I don't know. They

748
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 2>said you could wear the keeper everywhere you go in

749
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the UAE. So I'll let you know. The question I

750
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.000
<v Speaker 2>asked him was follows though, if you look in the

751
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 2>response of Kazan from here ci Cerrol and in Rome

752
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 2>he was the Robe of Rome. We did classes with

753
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.039
<v Speaker 2>him on her emotion. We're going to get back to

754
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the classes on great rabbis. There's gonna be a surprise,

755
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:34.519
<v Speaker 2>the ones when we finished with the Safer I just

756
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.119
<v Speaker 2>started today. He's a god though, but not a sort

757
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.840
<v Speaker 2>of the god though that many people think. I found

758
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>in the crosshall roamy. He describes as as follows what

759
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 2>the Availian would do. And I wanted to know was

760
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 2>this the practice when you were growing up in in Tunis?

761
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:56.280
<v Speaker 2>He says as follows that everyone would come dolviin on

762
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:58.400
<v Speaker 2>shaw this in the house of the mourner, the house

763
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.880
<v Speaker 2>of the other. We don't do that. The ovel comes

764
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 2>to shul and after shannaes ray the of Shabas Chakras

765
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.440
<v Speaker 2>or maybe Muslim, I don't know. We just as Aframda,

766
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the the the the guy who gives the eulogy would

767
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:19.440
<v Speaker 2>stand up the domes and would give and would give

768
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 2>a spade on shabis for the the dead person. And

769
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>everyone comes to this house to hear that. Do we

770
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:32.800
<v Speaker 2>have it? Do we ever do espate? I don't know.

771
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 2>I never heard it, I've never seen it. I can't

772
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 2>imagine it. U and we don't do dofning at the

773
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.599
<v Speaker 2>house of the oufl anyway on Shabis generally, although we

774
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 2>men we wont sometimes, but we went not show this morning.

775
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>And then he says after but this is chakris actually,

776
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 2>because it says then they go to the show here

777
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Christa Talla and raisa Moscha. Hazan says he doesn't remember

778
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:56.719
<v Speaker 2>if the availing themselves will go here a Christatola or not.

779
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.519
<v Speaker 2>So I asked for mazums. This is an interesting practice

780
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 2>that you oh dofin shakharis at the house and then

781
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 2>you even do I guess you stay for mussa for

782
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 2>the show, but you do the hespaede at the house

783
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>shaba morning and you dovin at the house of the other.

784
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 2>And he says, this is also the men out today

785
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 2>in Tunis. But he says that the the hespape the

786
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Drussia on the Niftar, we do it in the afternoon

787
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.719
<v Speaker 2>in his house. And he says, the availing today do

788
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 2>go to show here kris of tower or they bring

789
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 2>the tower to their house. But so in Tunis to

790
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<v Speaker 2>this day they'll do shabists during the Shiva. They'll have

791
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>a Russia or espe of sometimes you don't know the

792
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>difference in Russia and Hespe because the whole hespape is

793
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 2>all a Russia. But usually the dress is supposed to

794
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 2>pull in things about the person who passed away, and

795
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you can hear by the instantly they just put on

796
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 2>spading thirty days for Redovet Feinstein MTJ on their website.

797
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:55.800
<v Speaker 2>MTJ has a website that shows you also it's not

798
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a typical Haredi Yeshiva. I was informed of this by

799
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the administrator on it because thanks to Borrow, who told

800
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 2>me that MTJ came out with this big volume some

801
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.400
<v Speaker 2>years a couple of years ago, some years ago, which

802
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:12.159
<v Speaker 2>gives the whole history. I ordered it today. You have

803
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to make a nice donation. I've made a nation and

804
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:16.480
<v Speaker 2>they're sending it out to me. So hopefully by next

805
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:20.039
<v Speaker 2>week I'll have information about exactly EMPTYJ when it was

806
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:24.960
<v Speaker 2>founded at center. Okay, So now the last thing, the

807
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<v Speaker 2>next one is because Imani and we did this will

808
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<v Speaker 2>be the last one. We get to today a dono um.

809
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.880
<v Speaker 2>So next week we'll get to where where Mosusa and

810
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I appear in you rca citter. But let's go back

811
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<v Speaker 2>to the adalum here and let's figure this out. So

812
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<v Speaker 2>here you have a dona hum? So what does a mean?

813
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<v Speaker 2>The first words? I'm gonna tell you something now that

814
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<v Speaker 2>I have found is not only is completely unknown in

815
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>regular Jewish circles. I've even found experts, not academic scholars,

816
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 2>tanach experts who were shocked when I told him this,

817
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<v Speaker 2>and maybe for good reason, because Ramazous doesn't accept it.

818
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<v Speaker 2>But here's what I'm telling you. If you look in

819
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<v Speaker 2>all the dictionaries, the Bible dictionaries b dB, BDB is

820
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<v Speaker 2>Brown Driver of Briggs and all the others, you will

821
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<v Speaker 2>find that all the modern Biblical scholars agree the word

822
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<v Speaker 2>olam does not mean world in Tenough. You cannot find

823
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<v Speaker 2>anywhere in Kanough where the word olam means world. Rather,

824
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.519
<v Speaker 2>what does alam mean? It means eternity. And we'll see

825
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<v Speaker 2>examples of this. So that then raises the question, what

826
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<v Speaker 2>does a donalam mean? Is it using olam in the

827
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 2>rabbinic sense, the missionary sense where it means eternity? I mean, sorry,

828
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<v Speaker 2>it means world adonolam? Or is it being used as

829
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<v Speaker 2>eternal here? You I'm just looking. I opened up to

830
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<v Speaker 2>the rca sitter that has eternal eternal Master. Look at

831
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<v Speaker 2>what the arch romance Master of the Universe. Now. Before

832
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<v Speaker 2>getting into any more detail, I just think, if you

833
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<v Speaker 2>just look at the translation, what does it say, Master

834
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<v Speaker 2>of the universe, who reigned before any form was created,

835
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<v Speaker 2>at the time when his will brought all into being.

836
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<v Speaker 2>Then as king was his name proclaimed. After all it

837
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<v Speaker 2>ceased to be the also one will reign alone. I

838
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<v Speaker 2>think it's clear. Just I'm shot it has to be eternal.

839
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<v Speaker 2>You're saying eternal Lord, who reigned before anything was created.

840
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<v Speaker 2>He brought everything into being when no one was around.

841
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<v Speaker 2>After all it ceased to be. He will still exist.

842
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<v Speaker 2>If you just look at a Donald Um shot, I

843
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<v Speaker 2>think it's obvious that it means it's referring to God's eternity.

844
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<v Speaker 2>Hu ha yah. Yeah, he was, he will is and

845
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<v Speaker 2>will be. A believer, he is sheetably taht. He has

846
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:55.360
<v Speaker 2>no beginning, no end. So leaving aside, you know the

847
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 2>word olam is that it could mean world. Everyone knows

848
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<v Speaker 2>it can also meaning So even if you think that

849
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.440
<v Speaker 2>could mean world, I think from shot, if you look

850
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<v Speaker 2>at a donolam, the shot is obvious, at least to me.

851
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<v Speaker 2>You can disagree if you want that it can only

852
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.960
<v Speaker 2>mean eternal world. And that's how the new rc eternal, eternal, master,

853
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:18.719
<v Speaker 2>eternal word whatever. That's how burn Bound has it. Also

854
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 2>the new RCA also the Sola Pool. The Sola Pool

855
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 2>was the sitter commissioned by the RCA. It never really

856
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 2>took off and never was that popular. Some shows did it.

857
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:31.760
<v Speaker 2>It was only for Shavis that was a problem. Also

858
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:34.639
<v Speaker 2>burn Bound Burnbaum was a better sitter, so burn Bound

859
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:41.000
<v Speaker 2>became very popular. I asked, though Mazous about this, and

860
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna point on something else and the second but

861
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.320
<v Speaker 2>where arts grows and this, I tell you they get

862
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.199
<v Speaker 2>wrong at least I think, but then they get something

863
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.119
<v Speaker 2>so right. It's they got to be given all the credits.

864
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:59.119
<v Speaker 2>But I wrote to Muss because he has notes on

865
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.880
<v Speaker 2>a poem of the judeng Levi, and there he speaks

866
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.239
<v Speaker 2>about uh this as referring to master of the world.

867
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.800
<v Speaker 2>So I write to him. First of all, I don't

868
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 2>get it. Oham only means in Tanach. It never means world.

869
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 2>It only means eternal. And I'm assuming I was assuming

870
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:21.920
<v Speaker 2>when I wrote that that the poem was using biblical terminology,

871
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:26.840
<v Speaker 2>but also the forma. The whole thing seems to refer

872
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:31.400
<v Speaker 2>to eternity. He writes to me, this view that olam

873
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:38.159
<v Speaker 2>only means eternity. That's the view of the krim throni ours,

874
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 2>that's the view of the modern biblical scholars. So oam

875
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:46.519
<v Speaker 2>but tanah perisho metsach that, oh I'm in tanah means eternity.

876
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 2>The modern Biblical scholars say that the word tevil, that's

877
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:54.920
<v Speaker 2>how you say world. But he says, and this is

878
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.159
<v Speaker 2>where it gets interesting, I'm not sure if I agree

879
00:52:57.239 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 2>with him. He says, kaz Aal did not understand it,

880
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 2>and he brings a proof to proofs. First, he brings

881
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:11.079
<v Speaker 2>a proof from Brothers Tomorrow and Brothos Uh fifty four

882
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 2>A says as follows, in the mission not tomorrow missions

883
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 2>a douke game. He's penis what this means is I

884
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:29.159
<v Speaker 2>have an English translation here? When the originally they used

885
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.039
<v Speaker 2>to say in the base that made us just the

886
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>o them. But when they go they say in one

887
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.480
<v Speaker 2>of the brothers. But when the Saducees said that there's

888
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 2>only one world, you know, the Saducees didn't believe in

889
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.360
<v Speaker 2>the world to come. Therefore, what did they what did

890
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 2>the rabbis decree that instead of saying just the word olam,

891
00:53:51.760 --> 00:54:00.360
<v Speaker 2>instead we should say minha oa the from including that

892
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:04.280
<v Speaker 2>this world and the next world. So he's saying that

893
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 2>we see that Hazau understood oam as referring to this

894
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:13.079
<v Speaker 2>world and the next world, and therefore there's no reason

895
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 2>to assume they want to use it here oham in

896
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:17.760
<v Speaker 2>that way. Well, that doesn't really answer my question. Of course,

897
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Razau understood oham as being both of them, so that

898
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:27.800
<v Speaker 2>that's obviously. But my assumption was that that this is

899
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:31.880
<v Speaker 2>using biblical terminology. But then he gives another example. He says,

900
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 2>don't tell me that even in the Torama, oham only

901
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:43.920
<v Speaker 2>means eternity. He gives this example. He cites a pusserer

902
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:51.760
<v Speaker 2>here is chapter eighty nine enough to hill him verse

903
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 2>three kiam Marti, for I said olam hassebone. So if

904
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 2>you look at the JPS translation, here forever is mercy

905
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:08.000
<v Speaker 2>built as Mercy's around forever. However, if you look at

906
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:13.800
<v Speaker 2>the Kamara and it is quoted by Rashi here in

907
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:21.599
<v Speaker 2>in Vayikra we have in you're zion, what does the

908
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Pusics say? It's it's a prohibition on taking your sister.

909
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:30.079
<v Speaker 2>You can't marry your sister. And what does it say?

910
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:38.599
<v Speaker 2>It says Rosa, who this word? Hassen's unusual word because

911
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.159
<v Speaker 2>usually think of hesaid as a mercy or something like that.

912
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.320
<v Speaker 2>But has said, here means disgrace. You look at b

913
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.599
<v Speaker 2>dB and he explains that that word so it's a disgrace.

914
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:54.719
<v Speaker 2>What does Rashi say? Quoting the gamaras who herapa first?

915
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.360
<v Speaker 2>He says that it means rapa disgrace Hasuda? What's the

916
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:03.519
<v Speaker 2>mid rush? He says, if you're gonna say to her,

917
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:06.480
<v Speaker 2>say what he says? You can't marry a sister. But

918
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:10.440
<v Speaker 2>what about Kayan? We're told that there was a girls born.

919
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Also Kayan married his sister. What does it say? We've

920
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:21.480
<v Speaker 2>no Solomoni mendo the omnipresent or God in permitting this

921
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 2>marriage performed an act of kindness, shine m r. What's

922
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the proof? Oh, I'm rusbana The world is both unkindness.

923
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 2>So the mid rush actually its a mid rush. Don't

924
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.079
<v Speaker 2>think I don't know if it's MAA midrush derives uses

925
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:38.639
<v Speaker 2>that verse, Oh I'm hassei Bona to say sees it

926
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:43.239
<v Speaker 2>as world that is, God gave mercy to the world.

927
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.199
<v Speaker 2>And in this case he allowed someone to marry the

928
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:50.239
<v Speaker 2>sister so that they could, you know, uh bring uh

929
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:54.519
<v Speaker 2>progeny to the world. So Ramazoum says here that we

930
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:59.679
<v Speaker 2>see that at least hazau, unlike the modern scholars in

931
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:03.159
<v Speaker 2>terms oh sometimes at least in this case, as also

932
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 2>meaning world. I don't know. I have to say, with

933
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 2>all respect to Ramazous, I don't buy it.

934
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

935
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:16.480
<v Speaker 2>It's you know what's this is the mid Rush. It's

936
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.960
<v Speaker 2>not shot. This doesn't mean that the rabbi is Actually

937
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.360
<v Speaker 2>if you'd ask them, does it really mean that? No,

938
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I think they would say, no, it's shot. Really is

939
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:30.960
<v Speaker 2>that it means forever. But we know the word can

940
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:34.440
<v Speaker 2>mean other things. So does that mean that they thought

941
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:38.559
<v Speaker 2>that they totally the tail it meant that. We can't say.

942
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 2>There are many times that Razal use words that in

943
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.800
<v Speaker 2>its in a historical meaning, wouldn't have meant that, but

944
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.840
<v Speaker 2>it comes to mean something else, so they use it.

945
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not convinced that when the mid Rush cites this

946
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.800
<v Speaker 2>verse oh and hassidibana, that they really are saying that

947
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.119
<v Speaker 2>that the word in its context means a world. That's

948
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 2>all I would say to mazous, and then he concludes

949
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:05.239
<v Speaker 2>by saying the python, the one who wrote a dona

950
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 2>lump miss Dumma. He said, lum what did he mean

951
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:15.840
<v Speaker 2>when he said a lump rebono? So you can look

952
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:19.400
<v Speaker 2>at your own on champas or any time during this week,

953
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:23.239
<v Speaker 2>look at adno lam. You come to your own conclusion.

954
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Is Remazou's correct that a dono lam means reb and

955
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Martscrull has it? Or like I think, and all the

956
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 2>other sea Durham I mentioned, does adono lam? And if

957
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 2>leaving aside what the verse would what the word means

958
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 2>at rass et cetera, just look at the all the sentences.

959
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it mean eternal? Isn't that the simple meanings? Shut? Okay,

960
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh he's thirty nine thirty. We've had fun. We're gonna

961
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.960
<v Speaker 2>time flies when you're having fun. Next class will begin

962
00:58:54.440 --> 00:59:00.239
<v Speaker 2>with going from a dona lump to yigdal. Oh you

963
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.880
<v Speaker 2>know what we're gonna begin before we before we get

964
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:04.800
<v Speaker 2>too I want to show you. I'm not gonna show

965
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 2>you now because we're already finished off the beginning. Next

966
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:10.239
<v Speaker 2>USS arts girl's genius, and I don't know how that

967
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.079
<v Speaker 2>they get it that no one else does. I'm gonna

968
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>pick up with that h next class, and then we're

969
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna move on to what sort of good stuff we

970
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:22.559
<v Speaker 2>have coming. We have Yigdao, something that I think you'll

971
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:25.000
<v Speaker 2>find really interesting, monushed on them, what is monished on

972
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:27.480
<v Speaker 2>to me? And then I've been waiting a elab or

973
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:29.440
<v Speaker 2>el because then we'll get back to the villain a

974
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:34.719
<v Speaker 2>goone Halilah. Has he sent me interesting stuff from a

975
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 2>new volume that explains what's going on with the villain

976
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 2>the Goone and Wylah how he sees it as a

977
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:43.800
<v Speaker 2>feminine and okay, all sorts of other interesting stuff we're

978
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:47.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna get to. Let me quickly take the questions the comments.

979
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh uh, someone asked me which paper, not the Total Link.

980
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:55.719
<v Speaker 2>It's called the Jewish Link. If you're in the New

981
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:58.000
<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, New York area, you know what I'm talking.

982
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:00.679
<v Speaker 2>It's very helpful. It has all the ads this time.

983
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Usually you'd have all the pasta hands. Unfortunately we don't

984
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:05.920
<v Speaker 2>have any of that, but you have all sorts of

985
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:12.239
<v Speaker 2>stuff information. The Jewish Week closed, so the only way

986
01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 2>to get the ads and things is from that. Yes,

987
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:18.440
<v Speaker 2>for Barrio Leebowitz is William Gowertz's son in law. He's

988
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 2>he's really special if you're interested in how I spent

989
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:27.039
<v Speaker 2>a whole pace off with him. Ray Hellman says, just

990
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 2>today he was bringing Advarturn touch Bates a great medieval

991
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.840
<v Speaker 2>authority quote. I'm not sure. Oh it's coming down. I

992
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Gotti raised Kiddish rabban He quotes the Rabbanit. Okay, well

993
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:42.639
<v Speaker 2>that's yeah. That's mentioned in Hagdoli where at the end

994
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.199
<v Speaker 2>of it, after giving all the rabbi he has rabanite

995
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and he mentions the see. I I don't know when

996
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:51.119
<v Speaker 2>the touch bakes says Rabbanit. He might mean the rabbits in.

997
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm right. I couldn't figure out from the context it

998
01:00:53.920 --> 01:01:00.519
<v Speaker 2>means rabbits in, or because he quoted she said. She said, uh, Thera,

999
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I think he means rabitson but includes it. He doesn't

1000
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:09.000
<v Speaker 2>mean rabbitson, he means learned women, and he includes it

1001
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:13.199
<v Speaker 2>at the end. David says, as a RENOP member, I

1002
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:16.400
<v Speaker 2>would rent remember, I would say it's modern Orthodox, not liberal. Actually,

1003
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Renat was the last show I spoke at before the lockdown.

1004
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:22.440
<v Speaker 2>The last shabbist that I went to show was that Renot.

1005
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:26.400
<v Speaker 2>But I would say in the modern Orthodox, it's more liberal.

1006
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I would think, after all, they had Marsha biro speak,

1007
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:33.559
<v Speaker 2>so now I went say, it's it's very big on

1008
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:36.519
<v Speaker 2>women's issues, et cetera, et cetera. So I think that's, uh,

1009
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:39.400
<v Speaker 2>that's in our world today, that's on the liberal side

1010
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:42.559
<v Speaker 2>of modern Orthodox. The rabbi by layer of ba Adler

1011
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:48.800
<v Speaker 2>is fantastic. People don't know, but I don't know if

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01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:51.719
<v Speaker 2>other shows in t Neck would advertise it took by Robundit.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you I'm not gonna say the name,

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<v Speaker 2>but something that is also very modern and refused to

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<v Speaker 2>use the word Robanite woman who had the title. I

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01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:06.880
<v Speaker 2>think over time it's going to become accepted because with

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01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the Israeli thing, you know, when we have now zoom

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01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and things from the people in Israel, they do have

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<v Speaker 2>to call them rob a neat. Even in my show

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<v Speaker 2>or the other show was stars my former show Havasafim,

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01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.320
<v Speaker 2>ben A, Jacob and David, they're having something on zoom

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01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 2>from someone in Israel. So that's the title rob on Neat.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if the show in person you

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<v Speaker 2>would have someone be called rabant, But it's changing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think and for good reason, as I said, why should

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<v Speaker 2>we call these people professors? They're Torah teachers. We can

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01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:38.920
<v Speaker 2>come up with some title. Doesn't not have to be

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<v Speaker 2>rab on. It could be something. Howard says, yeah, prens

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<v Speaker 2>tashmha nego and is starting very nice. Ah. So they

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<v Speaker 2>just say Josh Hoffman or Josh Hoffman said that there

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01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:58.400
<v Speaker 2>aren Kryzer use that of expression, kohas Arah, you can

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01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:01.239
<v Speaker 2>get there to keep that in mind. Or Bark Moskowitz

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01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:05.159
<v Speaker 2>was mospitter dovid at you retreavdas. So that's if you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the mt J dot dot e t U

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01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:10.280
<v Speaker 2>dot com whatever it is you dot org, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Hold on, I'll tell you right now because

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<v Speaker 2>just dot E d U M t J dot eed

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<v Speaker 2>you you'll see the SPA. I have to say I

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01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:23.440
<v Speaker 2>was a little upset though they're all there for the

1040
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Spade team and people are sitting close to each other

1041
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and not wearing masks. I don't I don't understand why

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01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:38.599
<v Speaker 2>you at THEA says why you has an antrasecuar studies

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<v Speaker 2>and the two female teachers and listen as doctor. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's because they are a doctor. Professor is not anyone

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01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:45.320
<v Speaker 2>who teaches at the university can be called a professor.

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01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:46.840
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to have a doctor, a pH d

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01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.800
<v Speaker 2>or anything, so you can call people professors. The problem

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01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:53.199
<v Speaker 2>is with the Tora teachers. So one of them who's there,

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01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:56.000
<v Speaker 2>they could have called doctor. She's actually an academic scholar.

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01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:57.719
<v Speaker 2>But you want to give a title, So I get it,

1051
01:03:58.119 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 2>But I think Robin need's a much better title for

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01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.079
<v Speaker 2>tourer teacher than professor. Professor and professor also has the

1053
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:07.239
<v Speaker 2>implication of you know these what can I say, these

1054
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:11.760
<v Speaker 2>skeptical academic types, and that's what professor is not a

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01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:16.199
<v Speaker 2>tower return? What can I tell you? Uh, there's nothing

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01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.239
<v Speaker 2>wrong with it. I have the title, but it's not

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01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.400
<v Speaker 2>a toe return. Whereby sell of a chick when he

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01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:23.440
<v Speaker 2>was doing philosophy, when he taught her revel in the

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01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:25.599
<v Speaker 2>early years, they might then call him, I get they.

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01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I bet they called him doctor solach when he's a rosha.

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01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:34.760
<v Speaker 2>He's not doctor soli Achik, He's he's the rebbe. Yes,

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01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.239
<v Speaker 2>jose Foer, I could speak another time about jose fo

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01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:42.199
<v Speaker 2>I knew jose Foer. Unfortunately he's not as well known

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01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.039
<v Speaker 2>as he should be. He had idiosyncratic views, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was he had certain negative views about Ashkenazen. And but

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<v Speaker 2>he comes from that world also. He was he learned

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01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:56.320
<v Speaker 2>in Lakewood. He carried he was one of the people

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01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 2>who carried or at the funeral. That's all COO see

1069
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.800
<v Speaker 2>was to a horn Kolber. But he had certain things

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01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:06.360
<v Speaker 2>against Ashkenhause, let's put it that way. I spoke to

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01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:09.679
<v Speaker 2>him about this as well. I went down to see him.

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01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Used to spend the summers in Elberon or Deal, one

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01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 2>of those towns, and I went. We we used to

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01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.119
<v Speaker 2>have correspondence. He's though, he gave me all the if

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01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:19.840
<v Speaker 2>you know so we in the Orthodox, the stuff about

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01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:23.039
<v Speaker 2>or in it. I spoke to him about this. I

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01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:26.239
<v Speaker 2>got it from Rabbi Shama, but then he gave me stuff.

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01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I have more stuff also. Subsequently, that was a big loss.

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01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Rabbie Silverman, Yes, the Silverman United Synagogue sitter Ellen says

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<v Speaker 2>that Rena distros under the sin ose. Okay, it's hard

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01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:53.159
<v Speaker 2>for me to yigdah the person commenting on yigd oh.

1082
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I will get to yidah next class. So hold on,

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01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:58.800
<v Speaker 2>whoever privately did it, and I'll tell you what we

1084
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:04.159
<v Speaker 2>discovered and how it got into the sitter. The rc

1085
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Citterir in motion just sent two classes on Shadah. Yes

1086
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:15.800
<v Speaker 2>it did that of Weisades. He quotes Shadal in one

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01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 2>place you can find it. Cahadal wrote an amazing letter

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01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:21.840
<v Speaker 2>against the reformers and didn't circumcise their kids. And he

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01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:23.559
<v Speaker 2>said you have to throw them out. They can be

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01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:27.679
<v Speaker 2>part of the community. H So, Shadau, what do you

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01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.639
<v Speaker 2>do about someone who, in his public life is completely

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01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.760
<v Speaker 2>not just to observant, a defender of totra and an attacker.

1093
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes he went too far, like he attacks the rumbaumb,

1094
01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:39.440
<v Speaker 2>but it came from a place of piety, like herschattack

1095
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:42.079
<v Speaker 2>the rombum. He didn't like philosophy. He says, I'm not

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01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.400
<v Speaker 2>interested in kant k and T. I want to knock

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01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.880
<v Speaker 2>t Nak isn't knach. But you have someone who in

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01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:52.280
<v Speaker 2>a private letter acknowledges that he violates how Aha for

1099
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:55.840
<v Speaker 2>ideological reasons because he doesn't things. That's shocked. So it's

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01:06:56.840 --> 01:06:59.440
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting, and it's I don't know if that's better

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01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 2>than some one who acknowledges visa just because he doesn't

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01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:05.559
<v Speaker 2>care or's weak, or I don't know what to make

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01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:07.239
<v Speaker 2>of that. I mean, some people would say that that's

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01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:12.599
<v Speaker 2>a kofir shadal, but he's he's unique. Put it that way,

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01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.360
<v Speaker 2>crime says, is it possible that the follower of Messas

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01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.639
<v Speaker 2>and Tunis regarding carrying out Shabbat and that's why someone

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01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:24.880
<v Speaker 2>puts something in his pocket. No, that's not h that's

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01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:26.360
<v Speaker 2>not at all the reason. And it's just that this

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01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:30.039
<v Speaker 2>the person now I know, is not so observant. He's

1110
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:32.760
<v Speaker 2>a uh, he's not that learned either, he's just a

1111
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 2>it's some What happened was when the French came into

1112
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Tunisia with the Alian schools, it led to a lot

1113
01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:45.599
<v Speaker 2>of irreligiosity. You even had some intermarriage with Christians, and

1114
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:47.400
<v Speaker 2>you had a lot of people whore not show Marshamas.

1115
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:49.199
<v Speaker 2>And then you had a lot of people who were

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01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like the people that you think of in the nineteen fifties,

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01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:54.519
<v Speaker 2>or if you live outside New York areas, we go

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01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:57.079
<v Speaker 2>to the modern residic shoals, but are themselves not that

1119
01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:00.119
<v Speaker 2>observant ensure. But you have none of that because they

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01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:02.400
<v Speaker 2>refuse to let these schools in. The rabbis refuse to

1121
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:06.480
<v Speaker 2>let the Alian schools in, but in Tunis, Tunis is

1122
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.880
<v Speaker 2>like a modern Orthodox community. Every in my modern Orthodox community,

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01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:11.239
<v Speaker 2>if we didn't have an air, if you still have

1124
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:14.599
<v Speaker 2>people uh carrying things, and you probably have people still

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01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 2>pushing baby carriages probably, but we have errors now so

1126
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't have that issue. Growing up. Of course we

1127
01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:23.039
<v Speaker 2>had that baby carriages every Childish. So it's not for

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01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:27.159
<v Speaker 2>holstic reasons. There's a it's a if you know the

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01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Syrian community also, you have different levels of religiosity. It's

1130
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.600
<v Speaker 2>the same thing in Italy, it's the same thing. It's

1131
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:35.960
<v Speaker 2>the same thing all over. That's that's how Jews always

1132
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.079
<v Speaker 2>lived and that's that's what you see today. And in Tunis,

1133
01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Rabbi German and hugging are different higher than Tunis. I mean, well,

1134
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:48.119
<v Speaker 2>obviously there's different in hugging, but Gerba is a much

1135
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:50.960
<v Speaker 2>more observant place. I mentioned already every single woman in

1136
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Gerba where's a techo and they're very mock pidy and

1137
01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:57.960
<v Speaker 2>it's because of the Allians they didn't allow it. Rafaian

1138
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:00.159
<v Speaker 2>Angel claims that Isaiah too was no longer a show

1139
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:02.880
<v Speaker 2>him not worth enough scholars and it's accepted. Okay, Well,

1140
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 2>if clime Angel says, if clim angels a great biblical scholar,

1141
01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's in the field, so like I wouldn't think

1142
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it would be an issue, which is like I don't

1143
01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:15.920
<v Speaker 2>think dating of the Zoe War is an issue, but

1144
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:18.159
<v Speaker 2>it is an issue. As you go further to the right,

1145
01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:22.439
<v Speaker 2>Mike says that me or Nates Slime and Israel have

1146
01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:25.600
<v Speaker 2>websites also, like what also now is a website here?

1147
01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I was just being tongue in shape there o, Mike says,

1148
01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:37.880
<v Speaker 2>can't mean eternal. Well, we see JPSA this eternal and

1149
01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:43.119
<v Speaker 2>many other ton off sou if you look at b

1150
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:51.039
<v Speaker 2>dB he sees it as eternal. Yes, okay. So someone

1151
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:53.439
<v Speaker 2>tells me that the a sitter, a very good sitter

1152
01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:57.319
<v Speaker 2>vocalizes mahai with a segment that's like a m has

1153
01:09:57.560 --> 01:10:01.159
<v Speaker 2>and he says that that an old the old your souls.

1154
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:03.600
<v Speaker 2>It's with a seg office with a segal. Then it's

1155
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:07.239
<v Speaker 2>a verb verb form thank you, but yes from Shopdai

1156
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:09.960
<v Speaker 2>sofa if you oker of Shopai sofur sitter. He says

1157
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:13.720
<v Speaker 2>that everything there is with the sairay and everyone is

1158
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 2>a now form. Even Jim timtar Ravoshia that that over

1159
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:22.159
<v Speaker 2>there should also be a noun form that is the resurrector.

1160
01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:26.239
<v Speaker 2>So thank you for that, Howard says. The Orthodox scholarship

1161
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:30.000
<v Speaker 2>even except tridoh Isaiah. Yes, the very end of Isaiah

1162
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:36.720
<v Speaker 2>a third prophet. I guess yes, Mollocks is attributed to

1163
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:40.239
<v Speaker 2>more than one author. Ib in Israel already tells us

1164
01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 2>hints to the fact that it's a second Isaiah, the

1165
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:47.920
<v Speaker 2>third Isaiah. It's never been a knee car. It's never

1166
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.600
<v Speaker 2>an issue. It's just it's a prophecy. So what's the matter?

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01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:56.319
<v Speaker 2>The same thing into Hilim, the second half of the

1168
01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Pusser refers to a place, so makes sense that the

1169
01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:04.720
<v Speaker 2>O in the first half is also a place. Kia Marti,

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01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I said, O shamayim. Forever mercy is built in the

1171
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:15.600
<v Speaker 2>very heavens, you establish your faithfulness. Let me show everyone

1172
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:17.960
<v Speaker 2>here the plusic so they can see the interesting point

1173
01:11:18.039 --> 01:11:21.800
<v Speaker 2>that is being made. So Mike is saying, if you

1174
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:25.159
<v Speaker 2>look in plus a gimbo. If if the first second

1175
01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:28.000
<v Speaker 2>half of the verse is saying, in the heavens you

1176
01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:31.720
<v Speaker 2>establish your faithfulness, so presumably the first half is going

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01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:39.479
<v Speaker 2>to be this world. For I said, mercy is is

1178
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:43.319
<v Speaker 2>in this world, and in the heavens you establish your faithfulness.

1179
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It also reads, well, forever mercy is

1180
01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:53.439
<v Speaker 2>forever is mercy built, and you read it mercy is

1181
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:59.760
<v Speaker 2>a parallel to faithfulness. It's I don't you have a

1182
01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:03.600
<v Speaker 2>pro album like, uh, you and I guess were mazous

1183
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:07.960
<v Speaker 2>and that nowhere else. Well, I should say that maybe

1184
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:09.399
<v Speaker 2>you can find a few where you could type shit

1185
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:12.760
<v Speaker 2>to say it, But uh, it's an obam. Is used

1186
01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.319
<v Speaker 2>all the time, and it's not like we have lots

1187
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.479
<v Speaker 2>of examples. There's a Ebn Ezra. I think on this

1188
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Puster if I recall makes the claim that it's not

1189
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:24.119
<v Speaker 2>sim in isra. The regular commentators, traditional medieval commentators do

1190
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:28.960
<v Speaker 2>read it as a world. So but if it is world,

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01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:32.560
<v Speaker 2>if that's the exception, then just one exception, not others. Okay,

1192
01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:37.960
<v Speaker 2>but that's that's ramazoos. The Yu catalog had one course

1193
01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:43.479
<v Speaker 2>taught by the roof. He was listened as Professor of Tomwood. Yeah,

1194
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the catalog they used, but in class he never would

1195
01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:49.920
<v Speaker 2>reformed to that. But high Crime Stalvation was a rosashiva

1196
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:52.680
<v Speaker 2>in the early seventies. So I'm assuming you called Kai,

1197
01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm your new call him professor. You called them rabbi.

1198
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:59.239
<v Speaker 2>But in the afternoon, you call him professor Rackman. Rabbi

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01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Rackman would refer to the Rove as doctor sulli Ach.

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01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I once asked Norman Lamb about this, and Norman Lamb

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01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:08.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be critical, but he said that you

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01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:11.399
<v Speaker 2>could tell what people value by how they refer to

1203
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:15.079
<v Speaker 2>the rough. I don't think that for Rapman, he wanted

1204
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:17.920
<v Speaker 2>to show that the Rove was also a great secular knowledge.

1205
01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:20.840
<v Speaker 2>That was his way of putting the rove, praising the rof,

1206
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:24.159
<v Speaker 2>putting him higher than the other russiashiva because they all

1207
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:26.520
<v Speaker 2>were rabbized. But the rov was also a doctor. But

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01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I agree with doctor Lamb. That's why I asked him.

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<v Speaker 2>Although he was called doctor Lamb, not Rabbi la but

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<v Speaker 2>and he made his mark really not in the Ravinic world.

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<v Speaker 2>In the other world. To refer to Rubbi Salavatik as

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Solivacik, you know, it seems a little and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not fitting. It's not where he made his mark. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other hand, you're not going to call David Berger

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<v Speaker 2>or David Schatz Rabbi Burger Rabbi. They made their marks

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<v Speaker 2>as doctors. The famous story is that people would call

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<v Speaker 2>up rabby Sola Achx's house and say, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>speak to doctor Selli Aci. You know, his wife would

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<v Speaker 2>answer the phone and she would say which doctor Sella Achik.

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<v Speaker 2>She was also a doctor. Okay. Mel says that his

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<v Speaker 2>nephew's wife is Rabundique Carmi. But if you go a meddlos,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you look onto Medello's website, they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see it, at least I didn't see them

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<v Speaker 2>calling them rabund I just saw them with their name. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and finally and I said this, Daniel says jose

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<v Speaker 2>A JTS. Yes, jose Fa Or was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>number of Orthodox people who taught at JTS. The old

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<v Speaker 2>expression was that JTS had Orthodox teachers teaching conservative rabbis

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<v Speaker 2>the minister to reform lity uh. And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of truth to that, because if you go down the list,

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<v Speaker 2>one Orthodox person after another. And yes, and because of

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<v Speaker 2>jose for Or teaching at the seminary, that's what led

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<v Speaker 2>to the huge controversy that he was pushed out of

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<v Speaker 2>the mainstream community in Washington Heights. I published about this

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<v Speaker 2>in in Notash Heights and in Flaplish Syrian community I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote about this at the end of Soliman the Orthodox,

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<v Speaker 2>and subsequently I published a new document. I found a

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<v Speaker 2>letter from Rabbi ben Haim mom ben Haim Kraim the

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<v Speaker 2>noting the other one. I think it was Ben Haim

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<v Speaker 2>who who was the like the other major rabbi not

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<v Speaker 2>been Raim, the one who wrote magain Badi uh Matubabadi

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<v Speaker 2>sorry Matubabadi, the author of the chew of Magain Badhi

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<v Speaker 2>who was also a leading figure in the started community here.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the post sake for the Syrians, great great

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<v Speaker 2>Rabbi Uh. He he was a businessman and when he

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<v Speaker 2>went to work he didn't have a yamaka on and

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<v Speaker 2>he was he's a great a lot of authority. But

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<v Speaker 2>he also wrote a letter of big to Rabbi Nissim

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<v Speaker 2>chief in defense of Rabbi war Uh that always doing

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<v Speaker 2>is teaching there. Lieberman wanted to get great Orthodox scholars,

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<v Speaker 2>and Rabbi fat Or had a big influence on many

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<v Speaker 2>many students, and it's unfortunate that he was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>they never found his place in the community. And he

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<v Speaker 2>had a yeshiba and he started yeshiba in the early

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<v Speaker 2>night fifties early sixties where a lot of the Syrian

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<v Speaker 2>rabbis learned there, and then then he went off to

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<v Speaker 2>Spain he got his PhD. H it's a whole story

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<v Speaker 2>he is. If you don't know any of fo worse stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>it is recommended with that, I think we've gone long

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<v Speaker 2>enough for tonight.

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