WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:05.559 It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack and carn 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:07.639 S e O and JP Sorrow. 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:13.679 He's a lapsed fan and all my years and wrestling. 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:21.480 I never seen anything. 5 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:23.039 And it's the laps fan man like the one in 6 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:26.160 the ring. Forget about Sado. He the real king of swing. 7 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:26.960 When the bell. 8 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.000 Goes in the kick like me throwing in the corner, 9 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:33.159 but gets rash like stick. Even Jerry King gets take 10 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:35.719 off the crowd nodded in his head like its Steve 11 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:38.600 low Brown. Would you get low down? We go even 12 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:40.679 high up? Flipp you on your head, but you know 13 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:44.600 cool driver, you speak more and Dragon spits fire give 14 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:47.240 you more shock than when he treats higher drop a 15 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:48.200 more truth than the. 16 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:51.280 Con of sniper unless you with a coconut. 17 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:52.759 Roddy Pipper Jack a JP. 18 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:55.520 He like j h D drop the cupcakes and gold 19 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:58.799 the brain Bob means the best podcast. Frost start the 20 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.840 close cloud if you are it's a classic. 21 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:03.759 And poles us we ended with it last time in 22 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:05.719 our tribute to Sid, we have to start with it again. 23 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:09.439 I'm sorry we have to do this, but we're nothing 24 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:11.879 if not table setters. Here at the Lapsed Fan Wrestling 25 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:14.920 Podcast and when we last left Sid, he was taking 26 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:17.159 to the middle rope at the WCW SIN pay per 27 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:19.359 view in January two thousand and one to bring an 28 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.879 auspicious end to his second and of course final run 29 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:26.760 in WCW and really his final run in the national spotlight. 30 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:27.519 As a professional wrestler. 31 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:30.359 It's the night he snaps his leg in half, and 32 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.959 it's the subject of our latest chapter and our meandering, 33 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:35.359 yet appropriate tribute to Sid. 34 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:38.280 I mean, you gotta understand, if you haven't seen this 35 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:43.319 horrific footage, it's not like he it's not like he 36 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:47.640 killed his knee, and like the joint is where he 37 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:51.599 broke it, like he snapped his bone in half, Like 38 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:57.120 his shin bone is snapped in half, like it dangles 39 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.799 right like you know, it's one thing again, it's one 40 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:03.680 thing to like, not that this is good, but to 41 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:07.040 kind of like break the joint. You know the joint's bad, 42 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.039 but to actually break the bone, to do something where 43 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:12.240 your bone is splintered off. 44 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:13.400 Splintered is the word. 45 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:17.840 It's just it's it's it's awful. 46 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.479 So many jagged edges, oh, I. 47 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.719 Mean, just I can't even imagine. I don't want to 48 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.319 imagine I don't want to know. I don't want to 49 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:27.599 know what that feels like. 50 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.800 Ever, it's it's sad, but it's also it's also very Sid. 51 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:35.479 And we've talked about it that we're gonna watch it 52 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:37.439 again because we need to put ourselves in this frame 53 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:39.800 of mind, because we're about to take the deepest dive 54 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:43.560 you'll find into the circumstances surrounding this injury that essentially 55 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:47.560 ended Sid's wrestling career, and and just the follow up 56 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:50.000 and the aftermath is also as you can imagine boss 57 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:52.800 as Sid as it gets, I would imagine, So are 58 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.560 you ready and no, So for those at home, we're 59 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:57.879 toggled to the video, which is available on YouTube. Sid 60 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.560 breaks his leg it starts. This is from the Nitro 61 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:03.360 after Sin because, as we've pointed out, on the live 62 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:05.960 pay per view, you don't really see the angle that 63 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:09.159 illustrates most clearly how bad this injury was. They had 64 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:11.199 to show an alternate angle that they had but didn't 65 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:13.719 show in the live broadcast the next night on Moudday Nitro. 66 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:16.960 So we start with WCW Nitro announcers Tony Shiavanni and 67 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.879 Scott Hudson at the ringside desk explaining that a mystery 68 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.439 partner had just run in to a four way match 69 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:24.800 for Sid's world title when this went down, and then 70 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.120 we see the injury. So we're going to hit play 71 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:28.840 at the same time. Here on both sides, give me 72 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:33.120 one second, three to one play. 73 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:35.759 While we were watching the mystery opponent come in. 74 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.319 Now Sid Vicious up on top a look at this, 75 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:40.120 Look at. 76 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:42.840 The left foot. That is so difficult. No, we've seen 77 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:47.039 it a hurdle, another angle already, so many still, just 78 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:51.159 so why do they do that? Why? 79 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:52.159 Why? 80 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:53.080 Why? 81 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:58.080 Obviously the compound fracture of the tibia and the fibula 82 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:02.000 last night this morning underwent two hours of surgery. He 83 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:06.120 had a forty three inch centimeter steel rotted sorted. 84 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:06.599 Into the bone. 85 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:10.479 He is still in Methodist Hospital in Indianapolis. You'll be 86 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:12.680 out the good part of a year a long time. 87 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:21.519 We certainly wish sambitious. Well, and uh, are they fucking 88 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:24.199 idiots when they say that, Like do they are? Are 89 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:28.680 they trying to be like optimistic or something? Because like 90 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:33.680 you just say, he's done, his career is over. 91 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:36.759 Yeah, what makes me a year any more likely than 92 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:37.360 five years? 93 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:41.560 Because like you know, when you see it, I don't know. 94 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:48.600 I mean, we've certainly heard awful injuries, muscles being ripped off, 95 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:53.879 the bone, bones being broken, you know, all sorts of shit. 96 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.800 But that's that is a that is a bone destroyed. 97 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:01.680 That is a bone destroyed. 98 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:05.199 It is absolutely one of the worst bone breaks ever 99 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:07.399 in wrestling. It it really is one of the most 100 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.240 I hesitated, say worst injuries ever in wrestling because people 101 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:11.839 have died as a result of trumpet suffered in the 102 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:12.240 rest At. 103 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:15.959 Least, I'll tell you this, I'd say maybe worst shown 104 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:21.399 on television. Yeah, you know, like at least my mainstream 105 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:23.959 known because I would imagine that there are certainly there 106 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:25.560 have been deaths, but how many of deaths have been 107 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.480 featured on a television broadcast outside of Owen Hart, Right, 108 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.439 that's true too, And death is and death is a 109 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:36.120 it's not an injury, you know, that's a whole different thing. 110 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:36.560 That's true. 111 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:38.439 Yeah, if you put in a different category, then this 112 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.800 is certainly one of the most horrific injuries to happen 113 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:43.000 in a wrestling ring. And I ask you, boss, if 114 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:44.879 you were sitting on that angle that we just saw 115 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:48.759 with Sid's foot dangling below the knee, the boot twisted 116 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:52.920 like a string of spaghetti. Okay, slanted ARCD like a 117 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:56.079 string of spaghetti. Yes, do you show it on Nitro 118 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.040 the next night? Do you resist the temptation? Or do 119 00:05:58.120 --> 00:05:59.879 you make sure people deal with it and see it? 120 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:02.639 I mean, apparently not. Apparently you need to do it. 121 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:09.959 Apparently the temptation is is is so incredibly palpable that 122 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:14.000 you must show it. So that's need then, Yes, it's need, 123 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.240 it's it's it's need. 124 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.160 I wonder if Nitro is winning the ratings war still 125 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:20.319 in January twenty oh one. 126 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:24.360 If they show that, I mean, is that what they 127 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:26.199 were going for? I really don't know. 128 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:27.720 I mean, they have to explain where Sid's going and 129 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.480 why their champion's gone. But it ends in the most 130 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.959 said way possible. It's just so amazing that this guy, 131 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:35.560 in the calling cards he had in the ring in 132 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:37.959 terms of his work style, ends up in this position 133 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.439 and this happens, and he would rue the day and 134 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:43.560 we're going to get into all of it because you 135 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:45.600 heard me mention that mystery man that ran in. 136 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.360 Yeah, you have to know who that was. 137 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:53.800 It was Animal, right, yes, and whose brother was essentially 138 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:56.839 running WCW from a booking and finished booking perspective. At 139 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:01.240 this point in time, the diamals, Yes, hey, what's going on? 140 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:08.279 He's fucking back and it's all too appropriate in Acid Journey, Johnny, 141 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.439 you gotta finish in mind for tonight before your bro 142 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:11.000 runs in. 143 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.319 Well, you know, I was thinking, I was thinking, you know, 144 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:17.040 I actually, uh, I didn't know how to finish the match. 145 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:20.639 So I called Vince up in New York. I said, hey, 146 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:22.319 how'd you finish this match? 147 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:27.480 They're like you called who I called? I called the Boss? 148 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:30.920 Yeah, well that's k fabe still, Johnny. We still got 149 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.319 a couple of months before we announced that whole back 150 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:34.319 to back door angling. 151 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:37.920 Oh well, you know, I called a friend, a friend 152 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:40.120 I got working up North, and he said, you know, 153 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:43.040 he said, you know, I think the best finished, Pal, 154 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:45.920 the best finish you could come up with is have 155 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:47.480 Sid jump off the middle rope. 156 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:48.959 When you say finished, Johnny, do you mean to the 157 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:52.639 match or to my career? What precisely? 158 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:54.360 Huh? 159 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.319 I don't. I'm just saying that's what I was. 160 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.319 That was suggested, and I put it through my you know, 161 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:04.279 I started putting the gears into play and I said, 162 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:10.920 all right, the gears said Sid jump it off hoom. 163 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:15.720 I win, and for reasons I'm afraid to say, we'll 164 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:19.160 probably remain a mystery forever. John Laurie Nightis thought the 165 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:21.399 recipe to set up the run in by the mystery 166 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:24.079 Man in this match was to have Sid, for essentially 167 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.279 the first time in his life, come off the middle 168 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:28.639 rope with a kick or a flying knee. Essentially was 169 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:32.480 his idea of something mega impactful that Sid could do 170 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.919 to Scott Steiner to justify everybody being laid out, something 171 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:38.440 that would blow Scott Steiner out of the stratasus. 172 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:39.919 Stupid fucking move. 173 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:42.080 I mean, there is no way that Sid could execute 174 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:45.039 this that it achieves whatever effect Johnny had in mind. 175 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:48.600 I keep going back to, you know, maybe in All Japan, 176 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:52.200 right where they did such a wonderful job getting over 177 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:55.120 things that are otherwise kind of pedestrian moves like a 178 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:56.279 Larry in All Japan. 179 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:01.360 Is maybe in maybe in No Japan, I think that 180 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:03.200 this is a good idea. 181 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.399 Right or they could get over the idea that a 182 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.759 knee could knock you out, whereas an American pro wrestling 183 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:09.600 a knee knocking you out, especially in two thousand and 184 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:11.440 one before the rise of UFC and stuff. It's just 185 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:15.919 a laughing stock joke. Yeah yeah, and over there, you know, 186 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:17.879 you can build up a flying knee. We saw Ken 187 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:19.840 to do it, and then we saw Daniel Brian Brian 188 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:22.039 Danielson adopt the busieau knee. It's the same thing. It's 189 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:23.960 a running knee of the head and there's no reason 190 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:25.639 that you're hurt any more than a running kick, but 191 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:29.279 it does. And that's the only thing I can think of. 192 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:31.840 Because remember and listeners of our Bash at the Beach 193 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.080 two thousand coverage especially, we'll recall this as well as 194 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.240 some of our coverage at the last Nitro. John Laurynidis 195 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.759 was essentially headed the book because WCW was in such 196 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:42.000 dire straits. It was such a fucking mess. You had 197 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.000 Russo going home, You had Bischoff with absolutely no interest 198 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:48.360 in carrying on from there. You had basically a rudderless ships. 199 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.600 So you had Bischoff, who kind of on paper had 200 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.879 some responsibilities to the product. Bring in Johnny lory Nitis 201 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:56.000 as a finished guy. Bischeff always talked about how he 202 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.240 never really felt great about booking finishes, and Johnny lory 203 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:01.679 Nitis was well art. It is an assistant Booker to 204 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:04.879 a giant Baba as somebody that really knew how to 205 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:07.240 put together a dramatic finish in All Japan at a 206 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.200 time when WCW thought that part of the recipe of 207 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.879 perhaps turning their perception around was to have more clean 208 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.279 and decisive finishes to their matches. Of course a worthy exercise, 209 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:17.720 but what ends up happening is John Lawrenitis basically ends 210 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:21.159 up being Bitschoff and Hogan by proxies emissary at these shows, 211 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:23.799 carrying out their will without them not necessarily having to 212 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:26.080 be there in person. Remember it, as John Laurynidis was 213 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:27.759 going back and forth on the phone with Hull Coogan 214 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:29.960 about the Bash of the Beach two thousand finish with 215 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.799 Vince Russeau as well, Laurie Anditis ends up being the 216 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:36.879 intermediary between those two, and it's being basically treated as 217 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:40.240 the boss. He's the guy who kind of chaperones around 218 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:43.360 ww personnel. On the final nitro when the conquerors show 219 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.039 up and it's Johnny Lori Nitis they turned to to 220 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.960 figure out how everything works, Who's who, what's what, How 221 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.120 we get our way around w CB Television, How the 222 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:53.720 production meetings run all of that stuff, and in the 223 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:55.840 table for three they did with Shane and Johnny and 224 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:58.240 Bruce Prichard, Shane gave Johnny a ton of credits that 225 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.200 basically got him hired because they were impressed with how 226 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:04.320 how level headed Johnny loriniis was and holding their hand 227 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:06.759 through everything that had to be done logistically at that 228 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:10.720 final WCW show. So you got to John Laurynidis, who's like, 229 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:12.600 he's got a lot of power at this point because 230 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:14.840 nobody else wants it. Nobody else wants to be the 231 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:16.679 person everyone turns to to figure out what are we 232 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.200 going to do for a finish on this show, And 233 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.960 so he's basically the person that pushes this and he 234 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.799 would become sort of like the whipping boy for Sid 235 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.360 when he would look back on this fateful and horrible 236 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:32.639 night for him in subsequent interviews and everything else that's 237 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.919 been said and written about this, this horrendous episode that 238 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.759 brought Sid's in ring career to an end for all 239 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:42.399 intents and purposes. So this is twenty oh one, and here, 240 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:45.159 just a little while after the injury, this is Sid 241 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.879 holding court on what had happened. One of the first 242 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:50.799 times I think he talked about it in a shoot 243 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:52.159 interview format or a video. 244 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.840 So Johnny had been asking me to do that Stohn 245 00:11:54.919 --> 00:12:02.000 lauryn eight for some time, and no, they knew I 246 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.679 couldn't even promote Belton, you know. So I said, I 247 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:07.679 don't feel comfortable even jumping off a rope right now, 248 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.480 even to give an axe handle, and I just don't 249 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:13.080 want to do it. And so the night of the 250 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:15.519 pay per view in Indianapolis, he had written into the 251 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.320 script and why it was so important because once I 252 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:20.759 did that, then they were going to pan back to 253 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:22.799 the mystery partner, who we know wasn't going to be 254 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:23.559 on my side. 255 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.080 We know the finish was his brother. 256 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:30.519 And then as they come back, I think at that 257 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:32.399 point they were supposed to have me down and getting 258 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:34.720 their heat on me, he was just showed up and 259 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:37.919 then not saved the day or whatever the case was. 260 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:43.200 I just, you know, I could have the only thing 261 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.039 I'd say I could have. You know, I even at 262 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.080 one point that evening and said, hey, man, I don't 263 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.080 I want just changes. I don't want to do it, 264 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:54.399 and yeah, no. For several years, man, it was a 265 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:57.320 big regret for me. I'm telling you something you're talking 266 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.120 about six fucking years of rehab to get where I'm 267 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:00.559 at today. 268 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.679 It never a day of it didn't go back for me. 269 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.240 I think about Dan wow lot animosity and not towards 270 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:10.960 Johnny Really to myself, nothing against Johnny. Johnny's not a 271 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:14.919 genius either, as he got a good mind for the business. 272 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.799 But me jumping off giving Scott skyner Steiners and needed 273 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:21.519 the head. That's not gonna fucking use my language, not 274 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:25.600 do anything other than getting hurt. And I wasn't going 275 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.320 to make that big of a deal. That's what you 276 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.720 really bothered me about. The old thing in the hospital 277 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:34.159 that night. I never saw I never looked at it, 278 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:38.840 never seen the clip, never want to. Those doctors looked 279 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:40.519 at me, and I was telling I could tell by 280 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.919 their eyes something was wrong. Even when I went home 281 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.519 and started doing my referral work, I didn't really know 282 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.879 more about this injury to really believe. 283 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.440 It or not. That horse Barbara, Yes, all right. 284 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.279 What happens is when you have a compound factor that 285 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.559 far away, there's no muscle tissue. So it's the hardest 286 00:13:57.639 --> 00:14:00.559 way for anything to rehab. And that's why it was 287 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:02.840 so hard, and that's why it's such a long process. 288 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:06.159 I was never predicted to walk for run again. Wow, 289 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.720 I'm doing all that now. So that's why I'm a 290 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:11.840 little biting at the bit now because now I'm ready 291 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:13.799 and I'm ready to get back and I want to 292 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:14.639 finish my career. 293 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:17.000 Not being carted out on a stretcher. 294 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.879 Didn't happen, of course, but that would just be the 295 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.600 refrain of his until the day he died, essentially, And 296 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:26.879 I mean, my god, the part of the leg with 297 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:34.159 hardly any muscle, oh right through the skin doesn't infuriate 298 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.679 you to hear him talk about how he was reticent 299 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:37.039 to do it. 300 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:46.279 Yeah, yeah, I mean he like to me, this is 301 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:51.559 attitude era one on one. Here is people being forced 302 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:57.000 to do shit they didn't want to do and tragedy ensuing. 303 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:00.600 You do have to wonder if, like Sid's career law reputation, 304 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:02.320 is someone that could just be a pain in the 305 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:03.759 ass for the sake of being a pain in the 306 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:06.240 ass at random intervals, just to see if he could 307 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:08.360 maybe get a little time off or get a raise. 308 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:11.000 You do have to wonder if that factored in too, 309 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:14.159 how hard they pushed back at his resistance to doing 310 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:16.559 this spot or his stated resistance to doing this spot, 311 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:20.200 you know, just of course Sid doesn't want to do it, 312 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:22.480 so you know what, who's the boss. I can see 313 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:24.480 that kind of coming up and being in the saw. 314 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.639 I don't think anybody would ever admit to that. But 315 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:28.919 I do wonder if it wasn't Sid, and it was 316 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.000 somebody that didn't have the reputation he did, if they 317 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:34.039 pushed back against doing this spot, if if it would 318 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:36.200 have been taken to the mat as aggressively as it was. 319 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:39.639 Just truly lovely? Though, isn't it that he says it 320 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.799 was in the script. 321 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.840 And he did he did say that that was pretty great. 322 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:46.240 I mean, what did the script say? Was it a 323 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:46.840 bullet point? 324 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:49.799 What did it say? What it did it say? Sid 325 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:53.159 leaps off with his with one leg extended kind an 326 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:57.320 attempt to land on on a the other leg and 327 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.519 it bends in half. Well, here in the meeting that 328 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.440 brings us to the main event. And wanted to talk 329 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:05.600 a little bit about how we should format this, Johnny, 330 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:07.840 from what I understand, you had an idea where Sid 331 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:09.679 comes off the rope with a kick. How should we 332 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:11.759 phrase this so it's clear at all parties on the night. 333 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:19.080 What after a great start, a should we phrase it. 334 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:20.879 I want to be able to, you know, put a 335 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:23.799 helpful shorthand here so that we remember what it is. 336 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:25.840 Everyone can tell, even if they can't catch up to 337 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:27.720 you that night, what it is Sid supposed to do? 338 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:29.480 Well? 339 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.879 I you know again, I was told by my friend 340 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:36.159 that he needs to jump off the middle rope in 341 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:40.240 a kick formation and land on one leg. 342 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:44.000 So so you want me to actually write in here 343 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:46.559 he has to land on one leg? Why is that Germanic? 344 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:46.840 Yeah? 345 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:47.240 What? 346 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:48.519 Why is that? Nessas? 347 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:49.519 Can you just can we just write here? 348 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:51.200 O't know, but it's just what my guy said. 349 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.960 Have you ever considered, with all the respect, Johnny, that 350 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:56.480 this guy whoever it is you might be referring to, 351 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.320 might not have your or Sid's best interest at heart? 352 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.840 Well, I mean he's always had my best interest, you know, 353 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:05.319 he's he's probably one of the most brilliant minds in 354 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:09.880 this business. Okay, and uh and uh, you know he 355 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:11.799 said he's got it, that said it has to do this, 356 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:13.960 he has to do it. 357 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:17.920 And he said, well, he said, I'm just riding here 358 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.640 in my laptop. He said to Wright that he lands 359 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:21.319 on one leg. 360 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:26.160 Yeah, absolutely guaranteed. Fast forward. 361 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:30.319 Uh, Eighteen hours later, Sin backstage in Indianapolis. Yes, said, 362 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:31.920 I don't know what to tell you, man. They just 363 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:33.599 they really want you to land on one leg. I 364 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:35.319 don't know why that part of it's so important, but 365 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:38.680 it's a yeah. They We talked about it really longer 366 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:39.359 than I expected to. 367 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:41.000 At the production media. Let me ask you, if you 368 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:43.400 look in my eye right now, I'm looking. I want 369 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:47.000 you to look deep in my eyes right now, I'm 370 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:48.799 gonna ask you one question, because I'm gonna tell you 371 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:54.079 right now, I do not I'm number one. I'm not 372 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:56.400 obligated to jump ever. 373 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.119 Is that in your contract ever? 374 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.000 It's in the country I have in my mind. 375 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:03.400 Wow, and that's binding. 376 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:06.799 What I want. I want to ask you a question now. 377 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:13.720 You look. It's real simple, It is real simple. Describe 378 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:16.799 to me right now what it is that they want 379 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:17.240 me to do. 380 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.359 Well that they said that you should go to the 381 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:24.599 middle rope, jump off, hit Scott Steiner with a big kick, 382 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.759 and that's supposed to knock him out. And they were 383 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.119 specific about this in landing. They want you to land 384 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:31.079 on one leg, not to land in your butt or 385 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:33.160 flat back or anything like that. They want you to 386 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:35.039 land on one leg with the other one extended like 387 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:36.640 a kick line, almost kind of thing. 388 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:42.200 Now, once you look at me, didn't the eye? And 389 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:47.039 will you tell me the god honest truth. I want 390 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:54.079 you to swear. I want you to swear on the 391 00:18:54.359 --> 00:19:01.440 entire business of Vienna Sausages. Is that in the script? 392 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:02.920 It's in the script. 393 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:06.319 We talked at length and every last word was hashed over, 394 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:09.200 and what you see there in the script said is 395 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:11.000 what we came to final wording. 396 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:16.680 Now, I don't need to read the script, okay, but 397 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.240 if I'm taking your word that that is what is 398 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:25.000 in the script, then I'll do it, because this is 399 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:30.359 a script in business. If it wasn't in the script 400 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.519 and just some loose idea, I wouldn't do it. But 401 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:40.400 if his or written down in ink unerasable ink, but 402 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:48.880 I can't change, I can't wide out. Is it tapped out? Yes? 403 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:56.119 It is shit? He goes shit. I thought I had 404 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:59.160 an out there. What song did I send you on 405 00:19:59.200 --> 00:19:59.680 your birthday? 406 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:00.279 Actually? 407 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:04.039 No tapos, no type of the word for word. 408 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:05.920 I jump off the middle rope. 409 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:10.480 Yes, one leg, Yes, this his makeshare was written in 410 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:14.359 the top script. Yes, make sure everybody has in sure 411 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:16.119 sid lands on one leg it's right here. 412 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:19.799 I'll do it. 413 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:24.160 Who knew all this time that all you had to 414 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.759 do was memorialize a document? Because he's thinking like a lawyer, 415 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:30.599 you know what I mean. It's like, fuck, if it's 416 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:34.079 written down, then I can't have my way characterizing it 417 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.440 after the fact, right, which is where I thrive. So 418 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:42.920 so a sad set state of affairs. And that these 419 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:46.440 guys who who couldn't, who couldn't draw ten cents if 420 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:49.720 they were dipped in glue and run through Fort Knox 421 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:52.440 in two thousand and one are running around writing scripts 422 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:54.759 for each other and trying to be a fucking professionalized 423 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:59.079 TV show is utterly hilarious, first of all, and and 424 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:01.279 just just simp matic of so many things that were 425 00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:04.000 wrong with WCW at the time. I mean, he doesn't, 426 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:06.680 he doesn't in gene shorts, for Christ's sakes, you know, 427 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.559 the fucking fraud, the indignity of this thing for Sid 428 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:14.880 that it ends like this, it's just horrible. He mentioned Barbara. 429 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:16.559 Did you catch that reference there in that clip? 430 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:17.400 No? I didn't. 431 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:19.960 That's a horse that was running in a high level race. 432 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:22.000 I don't know a lot about horse racing, but it 433 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:24.480 was it tragically snapped its leg, and it was like 434 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:26.119 winning the race and it was supposed to take home 435 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:28.000 all the gold and whatever the fuck is supposed to be, 436 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:33.799 like this huge favorite to win the highest stakes horse 437 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:36.920 race and the leg just snapped, and it was like 438 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:40.079 a huge tragedy because you know, when that happens to 439 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.519 a horse, you know what you got to do to 440 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:44.720 the horse. You know, it's not like right, everybody knows 441 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.079 what the inevitability is at that point. There's no way 442 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:50.440 to really rehab a horse back to health when they 443 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:52.799 suffer an injury like that, So you're basically watching the 444 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.640 death of the horse. And for Sid, according to what 445 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:57.920 he said there, until that happened and all the publicity 446 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:00.359 around it, he never really even bothered to to lean 447 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:02.440 in and understand the physics of what happened to his 448 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:04.920 leg on that night, which we'll get into and of 449 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:08.200 course as much detail as you could hope for here 450 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:11.759 in our talf tribute to Sid. But needless to say, 451 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.680 it took a lot more than just that comp pound 452 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.839 fracture and trauma to bring Sid to an untimely end. 453 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:20.680 It would take a cancer and just a whole lot 454 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:23.720 of other things, because as he referenced there he did 455 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:28.079 not stop being an absolute workout and rehab maniac when 456 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:31.240 this happened. There were some dark days, but before you 457 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:33.720 know it, you better believe Sid was back, you know, 458 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:36.799 running the bleachers and just he's not there, not the 459 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:39.640 guy to tell you can't walk again. And we can 460 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:43.359 say that in his favor. And so there is there 461 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:45.720 is more to learn about Sid and what happened here 462 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:49.359 than just, you know, the purient element of looking in 463 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:52.319 in this grizzly injury. So it's it's a key part 464 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:55.279 of Sid's story and it's sort of our penultimate stop 465 00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:58.799 on the road to paying appropriate tribute to Sid, who 466 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:03.400 of course passed away in August of this year due 467 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:05.200 to complications from cancer. 468 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:06.839 At the age of sixty three. 469 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.039 So before we get to that, we do want to 470 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:14.039 wish everyone in the Solar system a happy holiday season. Indeed, 471 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.279 I don't think there's any turning back. Now the turkey 472 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.920 has been put away, mostly in the sewage system. 473 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:25.039 Or in your belly. There are some leftovers. 474 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:27.279 We talked about it for those lucky enough to join 475 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:29.400 us for the Survivor Series live call that we did 476 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:30.839 on Patreon. 477 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:31.839 We talked a lot about it. 478 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:34.119 But for the benefit of those listening here in the 479 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:36.240 main feed that didn't catch that or don't have access, 480 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:40.799 it was another successful Thanksgiving around here. In particular, anyone 481 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:43.599 who follows our ex account knows the boss really hit 482 00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:48.720 home at Home Run the morning after the sandwich lived 483 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:49.960 up to expectations once again. 484 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:52.599 Oh fuck yeah. I mean it was glorious. It was 485 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:56.720 It went down like a brick as it's supposed to, 486 00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:03.839 and it was just it's what the holidays are all about. Right, 487 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.880 So that's all I can say. Some pushback in the 488 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.440 may some pushback on the Mayo what you always say. 489 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:12.720 I saw that. Listen a little bit, right, you know, 490 00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:16.559 Mayo whatever. But I stand by the Mayo because it 491 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:22.920 adds a kind of a savory, kind of counterbalance to 492 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.200 the the cranberry sauce. Yep. And it is fucking money, 493 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.880 that's right. If you if you haven't tried it, you fail. 494 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.640 And you know, if you try it and you don't 495 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.000 like it, you also fail. You're wrong. Yeah, you're wrong, right. 496 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:39.920 I mean, you've had it. You've had it exactly the 497 00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:40.519 way that I make it. 498 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.720 I have, and it's scrumptious. I mean, we literally recorded 499 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:47.119 my moaning the sound of my moaning voice in my 500 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:50.119 kitchen as it went down, and I won't soon forget it. 501 00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:53.160 And when I make my own I do the same thing. 502 00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.200 I apply Mayo, maybe a little more generously even than 503 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.599 you do, because to me, turkey, roast beef, those are 504 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:03.039 two things that have to be paired with with Mayo. 505 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.160 Honestly, I agree, I agree. I don't understand sand of 506 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:11.000 those fucking meats and a sandwich context of course, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, 507 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:11.440 yeah yeah. 508 00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:13.720 You put gravy on it, which I don't do, which 509 00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:14.480 I think is interesting. 510 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.759 I think the gravy, the gravy adds again, it adds 511 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.960 a richness to it. And it's I'll tell you, it 512 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:27.960 really is what what I find to be for me. 513 00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:31.400 What what makes it so incredible is just how the 514 00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:36.279 the tangy sweetness of the cranberry sauce kind of just 515 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:41.720 blends and creates it just enhances everything everything in there, 516 00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.480 you know, like it without the cranberry sauce, that's going 517 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.480 to send gravy and and mao, it would be way 518 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.279 too rich. It would be way too rich, and I'd 519 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:52.839 want to throw up. 520 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.400 It doesn't it doesn't work. It's like turkey of course, 521 00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:59.119 is the base of the whole thing. But honestly, cranberry 522 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:01.000 sauce is the most important ingredient it is. 523 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:03.599 It really is. The cranery sauce is what makes it is, 524 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.759 what makes it shine amazing, because it just adds that again, 525 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:11.039 it just adds us this this brightness to it to 526 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.400 an otherwise a fucking brick of a sandwich. So maybe 527 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:16.640 I'm listening why it's not like we're eating healthy here. 528 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:17.559 It's a fucking brick. 529 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:18.240 Oh, of course. 530 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:18.559 Yeah. 531 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.359 Yeah, you go in like accepting that this is not 532 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.759 a day that you can mark in the column of 533 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:24.720 extending my life. 534 00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:26.759 Yeah, no, you want you don't let me tell you this. 535 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.680 You don't want to mark this down in your diet journal, 536 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:31.680 all right? You want to kind of say, oh, you 537 00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:33.680 know what, I forgot to mark everything down. I don't 538 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:34.640 I remember what I ate that. 539 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:36.880 This is a day to be absent minded about those inputs. 540 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:37.559 That's right. Yeah. 541 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.200 You know, maybe for our friends and non Thanksgiving celebrating countries, 542 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.599 they can take this advice up over the holidays, because 543 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:44.559 there's gonna be a lot of Christmas turkey served. Of course, 544 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:46.240 I'm sure a little leftovers that. 545 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.319 Have to be Yeah, listen, you know, listen, here's the thing. 546 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.720 Here's the thing. It's it's highlighted on on on Thanksgiving. 547 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:55.039 But let me tell you, Yeah, I happen to be 548 00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.200 you know, like currently I am in possession of another turkey. 549 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:05.559 We got our neighbors. So our neighbors got an extra 550 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:09.559 frozen turkey from their workplace. Yea, And they said, hey, 551 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:12.240 do you want a turkey. I'm like, yeah, I always 552 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.359 want a turkey. Let's do it. I might as well 553 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.720 fucking collect frozen turkey. All right, gladly, what are you 554 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:20.799 going to do with it? And I'm gonna wait for 555 00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:22.559 you know what. This is a this is a post 556 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.799 holidays turkey dinner waiting to happen. Love it all right. 557 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.640 This is sometime when you kind of in the really 558 00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.799 really shit months of of like mid to late January, 559 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.680 early February, where where the cult where you've completely forgotten 560 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.880 any joy you got from the holidays. That's right, because 561 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.920 you know here, you know, this is the real tragic 562 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:46.839 thing is that nobody really thinks that about the fact 563 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:51.440 that Christmas comes at the very beginning of winter. You know, 564 00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.960 we all you know your mind goes to the fact that, oh, 565 00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:55.920 you know, we hit December. It's winter. No no, no, no, no, 566 00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:01.319 no no no. Winter starts December twenty first. Remember that. 567 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:07.079 And then three days later you're celebrating Christmas Eve. All Right, 568 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.000 it's just the very fucking beginning of Christmas and you've 569 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:15.559 got three months left of fucking winter. Be miserable. 570 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.279 I mean, one thing that always sticks with me is that, 571 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.920 you know, it's not just that it's that Christmas couldn't 572 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:27.000 be further away in January exactly. It's not too it's 573 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.640 not coming back for so long that you you almost 574 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.359 feel like, as joyful as it was, you rush to 575 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:34.920 forget that it was Christmas. 576 00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:35.480 Yep. 577 00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:37.480 I don't know if you share that feeling. It's like 578 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.200 it's like I can't no, no, no, like I can't 579 00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:43.759 let the things linger around. How long it's going to 580 00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.759 be again until I feel at rest like that? Yep, 581 00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.359 until I feel you know, abundance like that. 582 00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.680 And so it's times like that where a frozen turkey 583 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:54.759 comes in extremely handy. 584 00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.000 Wow, that's going to be a huge January night when 585 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:00.279 that comes out of the oven. Yep, yep, way what 586 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.839 a way to fight back. Yeah, that's just that's it. 587 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.119 You gotta you have to. 588 00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.279 You have to rage against the dying of the light. 589 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.240 Otherwise, otherwise you're just gonna suffer. I wonder if you 590 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.279 could do the Thanksgiving sandwich with a goose. 591 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.640 I don't know, you know, I'm I'm I've I've never 592 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.799 actually had goose before. It's like, it's like muck, I'm not, 593 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.440 I'm not too. Yeah. Like I like duck, I like duck. 594 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:26.240 I don't love duck. 595 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.480 And I don't know if I love duck with cranberry sauce. 596 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:29.440 Huh. 597 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.039 And I don't know if I love duck with cranberry sauce. 598 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.039 Yeah, I don't know. I've never gone that far. I 599 00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:37.279 don't think I wouldn't, but I'm just saying I haven't it. 600 00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.519 Well, that means the seasons upon us. And if you've 601 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:43.599 been minding your p's and q's and watching the main feed, 602 00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.119 you do know by now that the twenty twenty four 603 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:50.079 t LF Christmas Show is underway, You motherfucker, you fucking bitch, 604 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:55.319 It's underway. The unwrapping three, the abundance of the solar 605 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:59.240 system stuffing our po box to a degree heretofore never 606 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.400 seen and your co chairs are going to systematically go 607 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:08.200 through the hall, package by parcel by package by parcel 608 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.920 around the fire, and it's going to be just knowing 609 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.759 what's in the can A very special holiday here in 610 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.079 celebration of TLFX. It is a TLFX miss and we 611 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.759 need to once again remind ourselves as much as anybody 612 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.559 else that we have the best listeners in podcasting. And 613 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:27.759 every year our Christmas Show lays bare the proof points 614 00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:30.839 that anyone who might bock it what I just said 615 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.799 can't really buck anymore after they see the kinds of 616 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:35.000 creativity and thoughtfulness. 617 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.640 And I'll tell you I love bragging about it absolutely, 618 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.319 so one of the few things I love bragging about, 619 00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.039 like people absolutely you know, I was telling I was 620 00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:46.000 telling family members about it all all throughout Thanksgiving. They're like, 621 00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:47.720 you know, I said, oh, you know, when we have 622 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.880 our you know, what are you guys doing next? You know, 623 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:53.559 what's what's kind of up on the you know, what 624 00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:55.079 are you what are you guys going to be recording 625 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.400 about are talking about? And I said, well, actually, you 626 00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.480 know what we got planing out over the entire month 627 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.200 of December is our Christmas Show. They well, what do 628 00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.680 you do What do you mean the whole month of Christmas? 629 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.119 I said, yeah, we we get gifts. What do you 630 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.240 mean you get gifts? Well, people send us presents and 631 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:14.319 gifts in the mail and we open them on the air, 632 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.000 so to speak. And you know, we put out individual 633 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.559 shows and they're just like, they can't believe that that 634 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.480 people send us gifts, and I'm like, well, because. 635 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.519 We deserve it, right, Because everything we say, what about 636 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:28.960 the problem, everything we say about this podcast resonating and 637 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:33.519 meaning something to people is fucking true. Yes, And if 638 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.319 you can't grasp it, I understand because people don't get wrestling. 639 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.480 But we're over here making sure that folks that are 640 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.359 lost in the wilderness because of the things that a 641 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.119 lifetime of wrestling fandom do to you aren't lost for 642 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.960 very long, and that they have a place to go 643 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.599 and to share and to have joy, and at the 644 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.720 same time not fall in to the incredibly dangerous trap 645 00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.400 of turning to the actual entering wrestling product to provide 646 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.440 you joy, but rather sitting at a safe distance from it. 647 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.160 Well at the same time scratching the itch, because if 648 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.279 you don't scratch the itch, it's even worse and that's 649 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.160 what we're doing here, and we're giving voice too well 650 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:10.920 a lapsed fan. It's what we've been doing for ten 651 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.920 years running now, yep. And yeah, yeah, it always is 652 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:19.160 a joy to watch people go from really about wrestling 653 00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.799 to wow, you make money, to they hit they have 654 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.400 a Christmas show. There are people out Yes, there are 655 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.279 people out there. And just because my friend, you can't 656 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.640 find anybody out there that would pay a dime to 657 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.400 hear you talk, doesn't mean that your CoA chairs have 658 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:35.200 that problem. Doesn't mean that your co chairs have that 659 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.759 fucking problem. Not this year, not any year, TLFX style. 660 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.400 And yeah, we definitely want to send another round of 661 00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.759 hearty thanks in terms of what's to come parcel by parcel, 662 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:48.640 we hope you join us and that'll brightened your holiday 663 00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:52.119 a little bit because they're very enjoyable. Gifts to a 664 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.640 wrestling fan, to the kind of wrestling fan that would 665 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:55.240 listen to this show. 666 00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:57.160 A lap fan. 667 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:13.000 Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys need 668 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:31.119 their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's the Lapsed Fan 669 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.640 Wrestling Podcast with Jack and Carnacio. 670 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.160 M JP Sorrow keep your ears locked throughout the month 671 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:38.839 of December. We're going to hang a few more ornaments 672 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.359 on that tree as well, including the conclusion of the 673 00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:44.319 of the Sid Tribute. All kinds of scheming going on 674 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:48.480 around what's next and under the cinemat. Over at patreon 675 00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:51.279 dot com, Slash The Lapsed Fan, our executive producer Tier 676 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.400 and The Mote Tear both get access to JP's amazing 677 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.799 series about great films and lots of great films that 678 00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.759 have wrestling connections. We just wrapped True the Bond Journey 679 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.799 on Black Friday. How poetic was that? Considering as some 680 00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:09.119 folks pointed out that I think that film dropped on 681 00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:13.320 Thanksgiving No Time to Die, well it uh it or 682 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.800 it's played at Thanksgiving huh or it's played at Thanksgiving 683 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:17.760 all the time? Something about it? 684 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:19.599 Well they were know what they were talking about is 685 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.159 that Thanksgiving weekend or something like that they do the BBC. 686 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.960 I guess they do a Bond Marathon or something like that, 687 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:32.880 and that you know, listen, that is all. That's all serendipity. 688 00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:35.320 You know, it was gonna, like I said, there was 689 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:39.159 always gonna be a pause in between the main uh uh, 690 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:45.239 you know Bond series and then the Daniel Craig uh section. 691 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.119 But the the idea that it actually happened to go 692 00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:54.039 around scary movie season and then and then Thanksgiving was 693 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.920 just it just happened to happen to be that way. 694 00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.119 So I was glad that it did because I also, 695 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.679 you know that that's the for me too. I actually 696 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:09.000 always think of of Bond as being, uh, you know, 697 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.719 Bond being in November, because that's when I remember seeing 698 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.719 the Pierce Bras and stuff. You know, it was always 699 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:18.039 around between November and December. That's when I saw them. 700 00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.000 So it always felt like an end of the year, 701 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.320 you know, It's one of those ends of the year franchise. 702 00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:26.280 It's not a summer franchise for me. 703 00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:28.679 And yeah, I. 704 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.280 It felt it felt right. It felt right to sign 705 00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.199 off on that one. It was wonderful to me. 706 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.280 As somebody that really hadn't watched a single Bond film 707 00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:41.559 from beginning to end before we started this journey, and 708 00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.639 now coming out the other side, I feel so enriched 709 00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.039 about such a vital part of the history of cinema. 710 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.880 So many different things you can learn about that, the 711 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.239 turns and culture of the turns and entertainment, the turns 712 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.880 in the movie business just just just a character studies 713 00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:00.679 alone and going from you know, the earliest bonds, you know, 714 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:02.920 in terms of who got the nod and who was 715 00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:05.840 who is who was occupying the role. I mean to 716 00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:10.320 go as we did, from Connery two more to Brosnan 717 00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.519 to a lot in between. Yep, even the laysan By 718 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:19.159 installation and of course Daniel Craig. It's just it's just 719 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.840 been absolutely fascinating. And I think that that's, uh, that's 720 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.280 some shelf life right there sitting behind the paywall for 721 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:29.159 those appropriately resourced to indulge. That would be a binge 722 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:30.880 worthy thing to do over the holiday break and just 723 00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:31.960 take it by, you know, And. 724 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.400 I would hope so I would hope that that one 725 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.880 would last. That was really a a like a a 726 00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:41.559 something I really wanted to do for a long time, 727 00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.960 and I'd held off on on you know. I mean, 728 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.280 Goldfinger has been in on the list obviously since day one, 729 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.320 and I was always itching to do it. But then 730 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.920 when I started to see like, wait a minute, you know, 731 00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:58.559 well wait about this, Peter my Va one, hold on, 732 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:00.880 Peter my Va is in this one, and then you 733 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.840 know you kind of like start seeing that there are 734 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.239 wrestlers and other ones and then well, how many are 735 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.360 we talking about here? And then you start really digging in, 736 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.559 and who's this pat roach? It just keeps going and 737 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.920 growing and growing and growing, and you know, hopefully, you know, 738 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.840 I know I got some I got some flak for 739 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.519 not doing the entire franchise just because it just doesn't 740 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.960 sit right with me. But you know, now we got 741 00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:27.679 a little you know, when the time comes and we 742 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.880 can have we have five more that are waiting for 743 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.199 us at some point, and we can get all those 744 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.239 together and we can find some sort of of of 745 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.679 of connection. I'm all about it. I want I do 746 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.320 want to close it off. I do want to to 747 00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:45.639 to really put a put a put a real stamp 748 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.800 on it and have every single film. 749 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:54.320 Done, done and dusted, and yes, so a lot to 750 00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.400 look forward to. We turned the page to Christmas Movie Season, 751 00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.760 which is really where it all started, under the cinemat 752 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:02.360 with Santa with Muscles. 753 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.880 Sand with Muscles and that whole, that whole first four, 754 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:07.639 the first four films were all you know, we did 755 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.639 jingle all the way as well, and uh, Santa's Sleigh 756 00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:17.039 and die Hard were our first, uh our inaugural Christmas 757 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:20.239 movie season and uh, you know we're we're picking it up. 758 00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:24.760 I'm very excited we got. I'm not going to say 759 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:26.800 what we got, but what we got is going to 760 00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:31.079 be oneer full. Really, Yes, I. 761 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.039 Mean we've done Home Alone one, We've done Home Alone two. 762 00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:35.920 We've done we have done Home Alone too. Yet well 763 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:37.719 we did the that's right, we did the radio dram 764 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:37.960 of it. 765 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:40.519 I mean, but it is, you know, it is on 766 00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:44.960 the list. I think we know why. 767 00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.159 Sadly we did, and I did. 768 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:49.679 We did. 769 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:50.599 It's wonderful life. 770 00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:51.239 We did. 771 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.920 And we've done so many Landmark Christmas pictures. We did 772 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:56.800 the one with the Misz. 773 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.559 Yes, we two with the Miss. So what awaits us? 774 00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:04.840 I can only begin. I mean I did hint at 775 00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:06.960 it before, and I don't mind hinting out of it again. 776 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.719 So I do Miss. I do miss those really garbage 777 00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:16.280 Miss Christmas movies for ABC Family. And you know, I'm 778 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.079 fortunate we were able to find something else in that vein, 779 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.000 not with the Miz. But I think it's gonna be 780 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:30.039 equally just fun, bad garbage. 781 00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.679 You can bet it's a movie where a wrestler in 782 00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.599 a pea coat takes somebody to look for trees. 783 00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:45.119 Yeah, at least not in the la landscape that miss 784 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:46.199 was doing in. 785 00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.639 The spirit of the season. So Christmas movie Season under 786 00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.559 the Cinemat another great time to peek under the hood there. 787 00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.159 If you've been wondering if now's the time, Now is 788 00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:56.119 the time. I'm even being told and I don't know 789 00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.679 a lot about this, that you can even gift Patreon subscriptions. Now, 790 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.079 Patreon doesn't million hfer things every month, so look into that. 791 00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:03.480 That's cool. 792 00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:05.320 I'm sure they make it pretty intuitive if that's something 793 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:09.000 you want to give someone for the holidays. I'm sure 794 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:11.639 it's like a time limited subscription to our Patreon content. 795 00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.960 Of course, executive bdu sercured above get you under the cinemat. 796 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.760 The mote tear, of course, is the exclusive circle for 797 00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:20.079 our rider dies. Those who say, you know what, I'm 798 00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:23.239 going to pay more than I get this is more 799 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.920 than transactional. What's going on here for ten straight years? 800 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:28.639 They'd be right about that, And as always be salute 801 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.760 the real true core benefactors to the mission, and they've 802 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.840 been in receipt of a NonStop assault of wrestle Mamia 803 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.440 and those who have heard of the TLF Christmas shows thus. 804 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:40.480 Far that have been unveiled. 805 00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.079 Know that Mama Sorrow graced us, to say the very least, 806 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.360 with her presence as we opened each and every Christmas 807 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.719 package and offered commentary that even in our wildest dreams. 808 00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.679 Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, it is. It is truly, 809 00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:57.679 I mean, and the beauty of it is is that 810 00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.480 nobody knew when they were writing the shit they were writing, 811 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.800 or gifting the gifts that they were giving, that Mama 812 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:04.519 Sara would be. I mean, we didn't even really know 813 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:08.360 that Mama Sara was going to be, you know, in 814 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.239 house at the time. But you get a little you 815 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.599 get a little sneak peak as to what you know, 816 00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:17.519 wrestle Mamia is all about, and in that regards to 817 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:19.840 you know, coming up, what I like to do in December, 818 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.000 like what I do in the week leading up to WrestleMania, 819 00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.800 is I like to do starkate matches with my mom 820 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.800 for the month of December, of course until Christmas. And 821 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:38.199 by this time, I believe, yes, you they will have 822 00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:44.199 seen an epic starcate encounter where when Hulk Hogan faced 823 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:45.920 off with Beefcake Butcher. 824 00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.280 Oh that's a fucking top five starkate match, absolutely so 825 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.840 looking look forward to her commentary. There is you reflex 826 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.199 on remembering British beefcake. I'd imagine from your golden days 827 00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:57.119 and uh. 828 00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.920 Yeah, I'm I you know, it's been a while since 829 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.039 we recorded it, but I would imagine that I talked 830 00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.880 about the whole relationship and you know, talked about how 831 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.480 you know, he and Hogan were best friends and how 832 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:11.239 he turned on him. 833 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:14.719 I'm sure you were quick to confirm that he's in 834 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.039 fact still alive, which is one of her favorite questions. 835 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:19.039 Oh, it is one of the best questions. And now 836 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.719 is he alive? Is he still alive? Now? 837 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.800 It depends what depends what you mean, Mom, I mean, 838 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.760 I just saw the dark side on him, and yeah, I. 839 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.039 Mean he kind of looks it, I suppose, but it's 840 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:32.800 not a guarantee. 841 00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:36.679 Truly amazing stuff and the least we can do for 842 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:39.280 that high level support. And let me just say, in 843 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:43.079 twenty twenty five, as we enter our second decade, we've 844 00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:46.159 got some ideas for the Moat tier to show are 845 00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.559 more appreciation than even we currently do. So this is 846 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:53.039 probably the time to start seriously considering it, because we've 847 00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:54.880 got some things that we're going to unload. 848 00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:56.159 I think on folks. 849 00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:58.199 That is going to create a bit of a frenzy, 850 00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.800 bit of a scramble. Let's just say, yep, a bit 851 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.039 of a scarcity value coming your fucking way. That's all 852 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:11.159 I'm gonna say. What isn't scarce is the true volume 853 00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:15.320 of selection available to lapsed fans this Christmas season, both 854 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.480 in our Pro Wrestling Tea store at Pro Wrestling Te's 855 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.039 dot com Slash the Laps Flan and our laps Fan 856 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.079 store over at Chopped Teas, because we have an abundance 857 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.679 of lapsed schwag to outfit yourself going into twenty twenty five, 858 00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.119 to buy for the lapsed fan in your life, to 859 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.079 put on a gift list. If you are that lapsed 860 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.000 fan and we're hearing from wives. We're hearing from wives. 861 00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.880 They want cameos, yes they do. They want shirts. They 862 00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:42.880 want it all, they want it all, and I'm here 863 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:43.559 to give it to them. 864 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:48.679 There are there are two lapsed Wife shirts for those 865 00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:54.440 who have the balls to give the give their wife 866 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.519 the gift that they definitely don't want, right you know, 867 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:01.800 they hate that you listen to our show to begin with, 868 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.719 and they're gonna hate that you bought them a t 869 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.920 shirt that supports it. They're not even funny. Why are 870 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.800 you laughing? Why are you laughing? This isn't funny. That's 871 00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:12.320 the best thing. 872 00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:14.559 Or like the homie Zach observed when his wife walked 873 00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:16.119 in the room and he asked for a ball water, 874 00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.719 You're not always going to get a reaction you hope for, okay, and. 875 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.719 Actually mostly not going to get a reaction that you 876 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:25.079 hope for. 877 00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:27.480 Hey, as a wrestling fan, you're trained to know how 878 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.039 to deal with that, and you know, countenance it, not 879 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:31.199 let it ruin your day. 880 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:37.360 Exactly exactly, you know. And we've got obviously the SID 881 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:42.840 line is is is just fucking up and roaring about. 882 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.559 Oh yeah, obviously we've got Vienna's, We've Got's softball teams, 883 00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:50.840 we've got udi Mania running wild. We've also got Santa 884 00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:57.199 Monica sid so fucking I'm a fan of that one. 885 00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:58.199 I'm a fan of that one. 886 00:44:59.159 --> 00:44:59.360 You know. 887 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:03.039 And if you if, if if you want to keep 888 00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:07.039 your Carnies Are Forever tour continuing to you can also 889 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:10.119 get the Carne's Are Forever shirt. We do have some, 890 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:16.199 you know, some some under the cinemat schwag as well. Also, 891 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.280 you got your Christmas themed ones. You know, you can 892 00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.840 go old school if you want, which the Fritz one. 893 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.239 You know, we have the Fritz Santa Claus one. We 894 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.159 got the Bruno Santa Claus one. And then we've also 895 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:34.000 got the the ones that I've made that are inspired 896 00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:39.360 by classic uh uh you know Christmas movies. We got 897 00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.639 the Laps fan in Home Alone style. We've got Laps 898 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.559 fan like Charlie Brown, we got laps fan like Night 899 00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:52.559 remember before Christmas, laps fan like Elf like Christmas story, 900 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:58.840 die Hard Scrooged, There's a whole fucking you know series 901 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.440 of that, So get to it. 902 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.159 Well, well they are, I mean, orders are starting to 903 00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:07.239 come in. Shout out to Alexander who sprung for the 904 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:08.320 Sids Vienna's shirt. 905 00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:09.199 We appreciate that. 906 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:11.800 Always great to see those come across the transom. And 907 00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:13.360 then folks like Paul who's just so you know what, 908 00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.000 I'm just gonna go, I'm gonna go core message here. 909 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:18.280 I'm going to go with you it used to be 910 00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.559 better T shirt yep, and a what a shirt to 911 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.000 wear into twenty twenty five. So we've got all kinds 912 00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:25.320 of stuff and if you want to up the game 913 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:27.880 in terms of above that T shirt level of schwag. 914 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:33.199 Chop Teas is the store as the unbelievable work that's 915 00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:35.960 being done over there on number half truly humbling, as 916 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.559 we are offering high level premium apparel with lapsed logos 917 00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.119 plastered all over it and some original artwork and concepts 918 00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:45.760 that you can't get in progressling tees all available at 919 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:51.480 chop Teas. Jack's jackets, hoodies, hats, pants, fanny packs. 920 00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.800 I mean, you really want to celebrate fucking TLFX, you go, 921 00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.760 you go to chop Teas and you get your fucking 922 00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.599 new warl order shirt because that's you know, that's one 923 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:07.559 that's been denied for forever. But there you can get it. 924 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.239 You can get it. It is there for your consumption. 925 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:16.119 That's exactly correct. So Dicky making sure that tlf fans 926 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:19.679 are appropriately sated over at the chop Tea store. This 927 00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.559 holiday season cameo is wide open. Folks are starting to 928 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:26.119 request things in the holiday spirit. Oh indeed, lovely one 929 00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:28.039 just came across from a wife trying to figure out 930 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.840 what the hell this guy's talking about with Vianna sausages. 931 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.920 So what a moment that really, that really was just 932 00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.559 something so incredible to me when reading that, and it's 933 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.719 like something about Vienna sausages. I don't just say like no, 934 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:41.840 and you shouldn't understand. 935 00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:43.880 Can you say things for my husband's birthday? 936 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.920 Please? Right, just say weird shit that he wants. You know, 937 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.119 I don't know what it is you do. I don't 938 00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:51.079 want to know what it is you do. Just say shit. 939 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:55.320 Bless them, yes, bless their pure hearts. If only they 940 00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:58.920 knew the realities we uncover and the conclusions were left 941 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.880 to reach. Ignorance is bliss. 942 00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.239 Okay, indeed, that's what we're. 943 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.199 Learning I think as the year's turn here at TLFHQ. 944 00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.920 And of course, if you have a workout fanatic in 945 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.360 your life, or if in fact you're looking to really 946 00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:15.599 enter a new stage of fitness in the new year, 947 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.639 there is a TLF way, TLF approved way I should 948 00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:20.119 say to do that, and that's with our friends at 949 00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.119 Tighten Nutrition, longtime supporters of the show. 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Tell them TLF sent you 969 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.679 and get one of those big, fat ass protein buckets 970 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.360 under the tree this season. If you're gonna do it, 971 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.320 do it, you know, if you're gonna go there, go 972 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.280 there with TLF. I don't know what the problem is. 973 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.480 I mean, they've been great supporters and always heard great 974 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:27.880 feedback from Solar System members that have tried the product, 975 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.679 so be the next to step in line. And we 976 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.239 also raise a toast to our friends at Derogebeer for 977 00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:37.119 the great support, particularly during the very successful TLFX Games tournament. 978 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.119 To determine the greatest character in the history of the pod, 979 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:41.800 of course, that's going to Lapsed Evince. And we'll be 980 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.920 keeping our forensic Garage Beer in mind this holiday season. 981 00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:48.719 Won't we bust? Absolutely always so much. 982 00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.119 Great stuff, so much stuff to keep track of, and 983 00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:52.639 if you want to get some letters in a Santa's 984 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.639 mail bag, that thing is really filling up. It's been 985 00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:57.519 a while since we've sat down with your missives. Something 986 00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.760 tells me that might be an order upon the conclusion 987 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:01.559 of this SID tribute. 988 00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:04.599 I would imagine that's ye, that's the case, for sure. 989 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:06.920 It's always it's very much in the spirit of the 990 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.320 Christmas unwrapping shows. Also sit down and open some some letters. 991 00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:13.119 So many great Solar System members send letters in fact 992 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:15.239 with their Christmas packages, and you'll be hearing those yes, 993 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.199 as it unfolds over twenty five days. But the Lapsed 994 00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:20.119 fan at gmail dot com for anything on your mind, 995 00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.880 any feedback you may have, particularly as we wrap up 996 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:26.760 this tribute to Sid. You talked about serendipity, and one 997 00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.480 of the things is when a giant like a Terry 998 00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.559 Funk or even a Sid dies, there's always wide open space. 999 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:34.079 In terms of our agenda on the pod. They always 1000 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:35.559 seem to, you know what I mean, pass away in 1001 00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.920 times like you know what, we can just keep going 1002 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:40.079 until we feel the subject is covered. 1003 00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:40.440 Yep. 1004 00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:43.440 It doesn't happen in the middle of a journey, you know, 1005 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.280 which is very very very much to our advantage. And 1006 00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:50.960 we'll be going to interesting places, boss, from what I understand. 1007 00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.679 I saw a tweet from Sean Ross Sap just earlier today. 1008 00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.039 If you go to Peacock right now and go to 1009 00:50:56.119 --> 00:51:00.800 the raw archives, it has been labeled thirty days until expiration. 1010 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:02.559 Wow. 1011 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:11.440 Wow, I mean what does this mean? I mean, I 1012 00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:14.559 guess besides that it used to be better, of course. 1013 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:15.239 I mean. 1014 00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.559 That we're going to have to, uh, you know, fucking 1015 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:22.639 get that Netflix going. 1016 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:24.599 I mean, what if they don't put all the braws 1017 00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:26.079 on Netflix. No one said they will. 1018 00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:30.360 That's true, that is true. No one said they will. 1019 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.079 You know that the the archive I would imagine that 1020 00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:40.079 then the archive would stay on Pickcock. No so all, 1021 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.800 so they're not allowed to have any raw, any any 1022 00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:47.360 archival raw on Pickock. That's what that expiration date tells me. 1023 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:52.480 They when they moved NXT to c W off USA network, 1024 00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:57.639 they took all of the NXT archive, with the exception 1025 00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:00.119 of the pay per views which are on Peacock. But 1026 00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.719 the shows that run usay, they took that and moved 1027 00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:06.800 it over so that it's like CW on demand and 1028 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.239 it's not available on Peacock anymore. Wow, what a shit show? 1029 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:11.840 You now? What are we doing? What a bunch of 1030 00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:13.599 fucking idiots like you know, this. 1031 00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:15.400 Whole thing started ten years ago when they launched the 1032 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:18.000 network and brought the archives to the table, and all 1033 00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.800 of a sudden, these podcasts were created to leverage that, 1034 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.960 not to mention ours. As they talked about the lapsed 1035 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:27.119 fan We're like, okay, well we'll put a fucking definition 1036 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.480 on that, thank you very much. Who's looking for this content? 1037 00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:31.960 And I don't think we've asked ourselves over ten years, 1038 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.000 because we've had access, do we deserve access to the archives? 1039 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:36.639 I don't think we've spent enough time wondering that. 1040 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.840 Well, I'll tell you what. Maybe you know, do we 1041 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.360 deserve access? Maybe not, But I'll tell you what you know. 1042 00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:47.760 I'll claim access, yes, all right, and if I need to, 1043 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:50.000 I'll fucking get my own apps. 1044 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.760 I'll claim access is exactly right, not a fucking problem. 1045 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:58.320 Because when you cast is hard, and it's faithfully and 1046 00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:00.280 at the high level we have for ten years, you 1047 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:02.119 tend to build up resources, don't you. 1048 00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:03.480 You're damn fucking right. 1049 00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:05.719 You tend to have people who have just as much 1050 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.920 on the line as you do as hosts and creators 1051 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:11.360 and perpetuating and seeing this thing through and filling those 1052 00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:16.039 gaps and providing that helping hand when those who would 1053 00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:20.079 seek to withhold their booty and their treasure seek to 1054 00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:26.599 keep things behind their respective ironclad doors, that you know, 1055 00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:29.880 all you do is call upon the TLF solar system 1056 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:31.599 to get that much more resourceful. We went through this 1057 00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:34.519 when they migrated from the traditional network to Peacock, and 1058 00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.159 then there were things lost in that battle. There were 1059 00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.519 things that didn't make it across the transom yep. And 1060 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:42.239 as the network ticks away with just a month left 1061 00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:46.519 to exist, you know, goodbye to all of those hidden gems, 1062 00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.800 goodbye to anything that wasn't transferred from the old network 1063 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:50.679 to Peacock. 1064 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.519 I know, it's so true. I mean, we again, we're fortunate. 1065 00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:55.000 I do have. 1066 00:53:56.760 --> 00:54:02.880 So much from from all these from from from the 1067 00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:06.159 previous network that you know, were gifted to us, and 1068 00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:11.840 you know, and now that's going away altogether. The whole 1069 00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:16.960 fucking thing, you know, the old network is dead. Unbelievable. 1070 00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:20.199 I mean, that's why we did this. That or at 1071 00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.519 least that's what that was. The missing piece. Yeah, it 1072 00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:25.880 was access to that. I was like, Okay, we can 1073 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.400 go forever. It's there. It's sitting there, and we didn't 1074 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:29.880 take for granted it would always be there. But it's 1075 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:31.079 kind of like, who the fuck would you know what 1076 00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:34.400 I mean. At the time in twenty fourteen, every sort 1077 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:36.639 of brand and league was thinking, we'll create our own 1078 00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:39.239 over the top streaming service so our super fans can 1079 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.480 have access to everything that doesn't already you know, licensed 1080 00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.000 elsewhere right here. That's everybody was doing. Remember, it was 1081 00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:48.000 a battle to collect as many content hours as you could. 1082 00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:48.480 Remember that. 1083 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:49.159 Yep. 1084 00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.199 The streaming services were competing with each other on the 1085 00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:54.039 basis of how many hours there were. There were when 1086 00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:56.719 Disney made all those acquisitions like twenty centry Fox and 1087 00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:59.360 all those assets, it's like, oh, we just added eighty 1088 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:00.000 thousand hours. 1089 00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:01.559 Oh yeah, say two thousand dollars. 1090 00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:05.039 Yes, yes, yes, therefore we are differentiated. And now it's 1091 00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:08.000 just like now they're just fucking selling it all piecemeal. 1092 00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:11.280 No one gives a fuck. Archives on one streaming service 1093 00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.480 one year or another of the next completely disappeared, the 1094 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:19.239 next available for three ninety nine to pop next, right whatever. Like, 1095 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:20.719 I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. 1096 00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:23.960 If they really meant business and they went all in 1097 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:26.599 on making that vault available and easy to navigate and 1098 00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:28.400 easy to find. If you did charge a couple bucks 1099 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:30.280 for each thing, I mean, we wouldn't love it, but 1100 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.599 it's the best way for them to see that this 1101 00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:36.400 is easy money. This is this stupid model of like 1102 00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:39.920 ten dollars for everything. Yeah, it never was going to work, 1103 00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:42.800 and I would love for it to have worked. Trust me, 1104 00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:44.920 that's a great price point. And the network never changed 1105 00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:48.360 its pricing, which is amazing. You know what I mean, 1106 00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:50.599 it's not gonna work. So if you have to charge 1107 00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.840 all the cart whatever, But hopefully the next iteration of 1108 00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:56.840 this idea of the wrestling archive is one that actually 1109 00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.880 proves once and for all to these bottom line miscreants 1110 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.920 that this is just the easiest money you can make 1111 00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:07.119 in any entertainment vertical that exists, because no one's gonna 1112 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:10.199 buy a single episode of Saturday Night Live, Okay, but 1113 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:13.320 there were hundreds of thousands of people that might rent, 1114 00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.159 you know, a back because we went to the fucking 1115 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:18.360 video store and we did it for years, and we 1116 00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:21.400 did it with Hunger, and this is the closest we 1117 00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.519 can get to replicating that. Say what you will about 1118 00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:28.119 the special interest section, but that was a big fucking section. Yeah, 1119 00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:30.239 a big section for a reason, because this is something that, 1120 00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:32.519 for whatever reason, people want to rent again and again 1121 00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:36.000 and again, and new converts to the sport want to 1122 00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:38.039 go back and rent again and again and again to 1123 00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:40.519 get to go deeper and deeper, to broaden their knowledge 1124 00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:41.320 and see what it used to be. 1125 00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:41.559 Like. 1126 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:48.000 That's where we're here. So I'm I'm reticent about what's 1127 00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:50.880 to come on that front, but I'm hopeful too that 1128 00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.880 maybe a model will emerge where finally you can be like, 1129 00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:56.840 all right, fine, like stop fleeing, stop fucking dangling this 1130 00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:02.000 carrot like there's no more concept of a monthly subscription 1131 00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:04.480 fee for the whole library, but it will make it 1132 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:06.800 available in some other way and then that'll be like, 1133 00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:08.519 all right, well, this is revenue that we'd have to 1134 00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:12.840 lose if we took it away. We'll see one can dream. 1135 00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:16.559 But over on Patreon we'll be charting the evolution over 1136 00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:19.079 to the Netflix because not only we'll be covering the 1137 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:21.760 Saturday night's main event in live call format. But boss, 1138 00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:22.920 I think you're up for it, right, we'll do the 1139 00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:23.800 first raw on Netflix? 1140 00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:25.760 Why not? Yeah, I'm done with that. You know, see 1141 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.039 what's see what's doing over there, See what it tastes like. 1142 00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:30.599 You know, they've been doing two hour raws in this 1143 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:33.760 lame duck period again after so many years of three 1144 00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:36.119 hour raws, and it's been lovely. But you better believe 1145 00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:38.239 they're going back to three hours on Netflix. 1146 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:41.840 Because that's that's what everyone wants, a fucking pay per 1147 00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:44.280 view every Monday. And guess what happens when RA goes 1148 00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:50.199 to three hours in January, SmackDown goes to eight hours, 1149 00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.440 Smackdow goes to three hours as well. Oh my god, 1150 00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:59.239 I mean what the fans don't want it? I don't. 1151 00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:01.559 I don't. I mean, listen, you know there was a 1152 00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.960 time I would have fucking begged for six hours of 1153 00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:10.679 wrestling every week. Yep, begged for it. Not now, not anymore, 1154 00:58:11.280 --> 00:58:14.599 like not even close market, not even close. 1155 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.360 Say all you will about AW and you know, the 1156 00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:18.159 loss of code lost c inpunk. Just what do you 1157 00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:20.960 want to point at is things that that shifted their 1158 00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.400 fortunes around drastically. I'm looking around. I'm like, you know, 1159 00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:25.639 is anyone going to talk about the fact that you 1160 00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:27.920 can only see two hours of AW every week in 1161 00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:30.800 the most successful early years of their existence? Yeah, and 1162 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:32.599 that that was like you had to be there and 1163 00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:35.000 that was your diet for the week of AW. And 1164 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:36.840 then they brought a rampage and they brought a collision, 1165 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.039 and then they expanded their pay per views from four 1166 00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.360 to six to I think eight now a year. It's like, yeah, guys, 1167 00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.559 like that's kind of what happens. Like each show is 1168 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.000 going to have less punch if you're not asked to 1169 00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:51.760 really savor every calorie because you don't get that much content. 1170 00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:53.840 I mean, it's very simple, but you can't. You know, 1171 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.280 that's not how TV works. TVC something that catches, and 1172 00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:59.519 they just well, let's see how how quickly we can 1173 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.280 you basically rape this thing until it's bereft of life. 1174 00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.159 But we at least can spread that audience out over 1175 00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.280 as many quarter hours as possible throughout the week and 1176 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:13.679 perhaps justify what we're charging to advertise against that audience. Yeah, 1177 00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:15.880 And of course wrestling fans always losing that because then 1178 00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:18.000 they're stuck having to watch everything, because you can't have 1179 00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:19.880 an opinion about wrestling if you don't watch every last 1180 00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:20.280 minute of it. 1181 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:22.239 Oh, of course not no, no, no, not at all. No, no, 1182 00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:22.480 no no. 1183 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:24.440 And so we wonder why wrestling fans are such fucking 1184 00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:28.239 miserable fucks. It's because they have no choice but to 1185 00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:31.159 sacrifice thirty hours of their week to wrestling if they 1186 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:32.599 want to talk about it and be fans of it 1187 00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.079 and not be dunked on all the time. 1188 00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:51.519 It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 1189 00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.360 knows the boys need their candy. 1190 00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:55.119 It's the Lapsed Fan. 1191 01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:13.719 He's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio 1192 01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:15.119 and JP Sooro. 1193 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:17.440 It's great stuff, is what I'm trying to say. Boss, 1194 01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:18.280 It's great stuff. 1195 01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:19.880 And in that Vein. 1196 01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:22.440 We turned back to our friend Sid. He's on the 1197 01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:26.039 mend and according to some things he said and shooting interviews. 1198 01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.840 Even one month after the surgery that he underwent as 1199 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:30.920 a result of his injury at Sin in January of 1200 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:32.480 two thousand and one, he was in the gym on 1201 01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:36.280 a walker, doing power cleans on one leg, trying to 1202 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.920 get back into shape. Because, as we talked about then, 1203 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.400 we've talked about this beyond Sid, haven't we be bigger, faster, 1204 01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:44.519 stronger When you get to look like Sid looks you 1205 01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:46.199 have no identity if you don't look. 1206 01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:46.360 Like that. 1207 01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:52.480 Exactly, I mean, that's exactly it. I mean, it's a 1208 01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:55.119 sad state of affairs, but it's the truth. You know, 1209 01:00:55.280 --> 01:01:00.239 you cannot nor will you be able to succeed on 1210 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:07.159 any level if you don't have the look. Yeah, the 1211 01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:12.119 look is all The look, is it? The look is 1212 01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:13.840 the only thing that makes you matter. 1213 01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:15.679 Well, the only thing you can say that makes you 1214 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:17.239 feel better than the next guy is you get up 1215 01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:18.880 at four to go to the gym instead of five. 1216 01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:21.559 If you suffer an injury that takes you out of 1217 01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:23.920 the gym, stay the fuck away from that guy. 1218 01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:26.760 That's my suggestion. Okay, that's my suggestion. 1219 01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:30.159 The downside is so much more pronounced than the upside 1220 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:33.400 when you go down this path. We've established this over 1221 01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:36.880 the years. And for Sid, somebody who, as we've talked about, 1222 01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:39.440 prided himself on two a day's in a business where 1223 01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:40.800 even one to day is hard to get in from 1224 01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:43.239 a gym perspective, but he was just a maniac about 1225 01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:45.119 finding gyms in every city he went to, getting the 1226 01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:48.119 morning workout and maybe even the afternoon workout in running 1227 01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:51.039 like crazy up the bleachers at the local football stadium. 1228 01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:54.320 He was also a big endurance guy too. Of course, 1229 01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:55.760 he had all kinds of heart problems. I mean, it's 1230 01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:59.119 just so fucking sad when people who just kill themselves 1231 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.360 doing what we're told keeps us in shape end of 1232 01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:04.599 dropping dead harder than people who don't do shit. And 1233 01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:06.760 I know a lot of those people die prematurely as well. 1234 01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:08.840 I'm not saying that's there's any kind of secret. 1235 01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:11.000 Yeah, but you know, like it's funny because it's the 1236 01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:13.559 extremes are where you're getting yourself into trouble, right and. 1237 01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:15.960 And you're in extreme territory so much faster than you 1238 01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:18.559 think these days, because like you show a little bit 1239 01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:20.639 of interest in working out, and then the Facebook feed. 1240 01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.559 Is like, what the fuck is with you? Let's go harder, 1241 01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:26.159 like drink this, ship your brains out. 1242 01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:28.920 You're not lean. If I have to see one more 1243 01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:31.760 picture of a guy looking like RFK with white hair 1244 01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:35.440 and like a tanned, jacked body, I'm gonna fucking I'm 1245 01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:36.559 just gonna throw on the towel. 1246 01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:39.360 Yeah, you know you should. I mean, listen, listen. They 1247 01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:43.599 probably they probably had their bodies surgically enhanced to look 1248 01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:43.840 like that. 1249 01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.000 I mean, isn't It's not a red flag by now 1250 01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:47.760 as opposed to something worth reaching for. 1251 01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:48.800 I guess not. 1252 01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:51.800 But we're just gonna keep going down this path, even 1253 01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:52.880 the even triple H. 1254 01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:53.360 You know, look at that. 1255 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:54.599 I mean, I don't know whether where the heart at 1256 01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:56.760 Tech came from, but I can take a guess. I 1257 01:02:56.840 --> 01:02:59.360 can take a guess. Yeah, And he's back, He's back 1258 01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:02.039 on the ground, you know what I mean, trying to 1259 01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:05.239 flex his biceps as much as he can. It's just 1260 01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:06.719 it's just a life you sign up for. 1261 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:08.079 It's just like exactly. 1262 01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:10.840 And so for sid, if he can't walk, that doesn't 1263 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:13.519 mean he can't fucking rip that upper body you know, 1264 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:17.159 it doesn't mean his one leg, but you could hear 1265 01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:19.239 in that interview clip we played kind of the desperation 1266 01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:21.760 in his voice to get across the idea that he's 1267 01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.800 back again, that he's you know, that he's in shape again, 1268 01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:29.880 that he's he's you know, but he stopped making it 1269 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:31.480 sadder than it has to be. 1270 01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.880 Do you know what I mean? And that's not true. 1271 01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:36.440 Actually he's making it sadder than it has to be. 1272 01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:38.440 That's what I'm saying, stop making it sadder that it 1273 01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:38.880 has to be. 1274 01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:41.119 Like he said, he stopped making it sadder than it 1275 01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:43.320 has like. No, actually he's continuing. 1276 01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:49.719 Continuing to really you know, you know, only able to 1277 01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:54.840 put seven pounds of pressure on the leg. Ah huh, 1278 01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:58.559 what do you want? I mean, sure, that's normal, and 1279 01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:00.519 he's out there just like so mad about that that 1280 01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:03.920 he's running into that wall every day, testing that limit 1281 01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:05.440 pretty much every day. To hear him put it at 1282 01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:07.519 least now, remember he's doing this shoot interview, as he 1283 01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.639 said there about six years after the injury, so he's 1284 01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:11.400 really trying to get the idea out through this shoot 1285 01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:14.280 interview that he's available again and able to perform at 1286 01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:17.039 a high level, which I don't think is the case, honestly, 1287 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:18.960 because we did see him in a handful of indie 1288 01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:22.159 appearances after this injury, and the limitations were I think 1289 01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:25.559 very apparent. All the credit in the world to him 1290 01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:27.960 to get back into an ability to walk around. But 1291 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:29.880 as we'll talk about later, he got a little bit 1292 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:31.840 more candid as the years went and one of his 1293 01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:33.760 feet was like too short, one of his legs was 1294 01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.039 like too short, and it would just throw everything off. 1295 01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:38.199 He just he wasn't gonna be able to work again. 1296 01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:43.159 But no, he's going. He's testing the limits right out 1297 01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:46.920 of the gate right away. Says, you know, running into 1298 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:49.519 that wall every day, it was tough. I ran through 1299 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:53.159 that wall eventually, and it really got sad for me, 1300 01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:57.039 he said. It really got sad for me. Says, I 1301 01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.519 was running. I got a hellover in Memphis, one hundred 1302 01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:02.039 and ten yards up pretty steep angle. I run to 1303 01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:04.039 the top of it, I spit and I step on it. 1304 01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:06.360 Because to him, when he does that, he's stepping on 1305 01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:09.199 somebody who told him he couldn't climb that mountain. That 1306 01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.599 that's how That's what makes said tick. That's what makes 1307 01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:15.760 said tick is thinking of somebody who doubts him or 1308 01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.079 pisses him off, and carrying forward. So that's what I 1309 01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:22.840 think in my mind, that's what makes me get up 1310 01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:25.360 that hill another time. And I can run bleachers for 1311 01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:29.159 sixty minutes NonStop. I'm in such shape, it's phenomenal. And again, 1312 01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:33.199 this is the things he's saying after the injury and 1313 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.320 getting back out there. Here's a bit more context and 1314 01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:38.239 color around that from the same shoot interview. 1315 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:40.159 Man, I'm gonna tell you something. 1316 01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:41.320 I had to. 1317 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.360 It really put a strain on everything in my life 1318 01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:51.440 because at first I didn't I was hitting the ball, 1319 01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:54.400 but it wasn't effectively. I said, Okay, I don't know 1320 01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:56.199 what I'm doing. The dogs weren't really giving me a 1321 01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:00.159 lot of telling me what was going on either. One 1322 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:01.960 doctor final teming and he said, you're not gonna really 1323 01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:02.639 walk again. 1324 01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:03.400 Man. 1325 01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:05.480 From that point on it was it was pretty scary. 1326 01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:08.119 So I had to work harder hard I would want. 1327 01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:09.599 I'd work out in the morning that I go to 1328 01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:11.360 rehab for three and a half to four hours a 1329 01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:12.880 day every day. 1330 01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:13.440 For years. 1331 01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:18.480 I did this so depression. I never dealt with depression 1332 01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:20.440 before I had to deal with that. You know, I 1333 01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:22.519 didn't even know I was dealing with depression. You know, 1334 01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:24.320 I never you know, I don't have anything to be 1335 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.960 depressed about. It's one of those things you don't even 1336 01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:30.760 realize it's hitting it till it's too late. Caused me 1337 01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:33.440 a lot of problems. 1338 01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:34.360 With my family. You know. 1339 01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:38.239 I'm just now able to get make up to my 1340 01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:40.840 family the things out of the way I was acting. 1341 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:42.920 And I didn't even know why I was acting like that. 1342 01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.800 I had to go through a you know, anger management 1343 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.519 course because I was so angry at the whole world. 1344 01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:52.719 I wouldn't blame anybody for anything, but boy, I would 1345 01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:55.039 just you know, And I use anger as a tool 1346 01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:57.440 for me to to succeed sometimes. 1347 01:06:57.519 --> 01:06:59.679 I whatever's going on, I'm gonna work. 1348 01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:02.360 I'm damn man, I'm gonna work out three times today 1349 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.800 and I'm gonna run bleachers twice, so that would push 1350 01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:09.639 me and making me do better. This time, anger didn't 1351 01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:12.320 work for me. It just made a hole deeper and deeper. 1352 01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:18.840 Wow, Jesus, that'll show him. I work out harder. Oh, fuck, said, 1353 01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:22.679 have mercy, Have mercy on us. You're gonna work out harder. 1354 01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:24.079 How will we ever get back at you? 1355 01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:26.840 My God? 1356 01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:29.960 That that guy that gut really kind of dark for 1357 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:30.440 a second. 1358 01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:36.199 Yeah, I mean you look, he's he's, he's, he's he's 1359 01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:37.880 a mess. I mean, I'm also, how can you not 1360 01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:41.159 be a mess after that? You make a stupid mistake 1361 01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:42.760 like that, but like doing a move like that and 1362 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:46.039 all of a sudden, you can't you lose your entire livelihood. 1363 01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:50.639 You should be depressed. Yeah, yeah, you have miserable. 1364 01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:52.679 You have excuse to, you know, you definitely have a 1365 01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:55.440 license to at that point, for sure, it's like, you know, 1366 01:07:55.679 --> 01:08:01.519 you you fucking ruined it. I would, man, there's a 1367 01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:05.039 story there. There's a story there. I mean, I've verged 1368 01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:08.760 dark side cameras to point their lens here, because let 1369 01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:12.079 me tell you, like no one knows really what Sid 1370 01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.639 was like coming home from that injury and just everything 1371 01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:17.520 that he built, his whole, everything he put in his 1372 01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:21.800 back was fortified by those legs, you know. Yeah, and 1373 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:23.439 to not have that and the kind of things he 1374 01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.960 might be making reference to about making family life it 1375 01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:27.840 sounds like a hell for a little while, and not 1376 01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.279 really be able to control it or know exactly why 1377 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:33.640 he was feeling that way. It was classic depression, and 1378 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:37.079 I wonder what it came down to for sid because 1379 01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:39.000 you know, for the wrestling fan, he snapped his leg 1380 01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:42.239 him and appearenteer there. He showed up in like two 1381 01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:44.880 thousand and two and that ill fated Wrestling All Stars 1382 01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.119 World Wrestling All Stars operation that thought it would kind 1383 01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:49.159 of pick up the pieces of WCW, signed some guys 1384 01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:51.159 and run some shows out of Australia. They did a 1385 01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:52.760 pay per view or two we went nowhere. I think 1386 01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:54.359 he showed up as their commissioner once, so he did 1387 01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:56.479 see him, but we didn't see him. You know, we 1388 01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:58.760 didn't really get to take the measure of if he 1389 01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:01.479 was anywhere close to this that we remembered before the injury. 1390 01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:03.800 He just pretty much faded. If it seems like you 1391 01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.239 fell off the face of the earth after this injury 1392 01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.239 and the subsequent sale of WCW two, right, I mean 1393 01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:12.640 that the company disappeared as well, right exactly. Even if 1394 01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:14.520 he was ready to come back, we as wrestling fans, 1395 01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:17.840 would be none the wiser about his status because there 1396 01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:19.479 was no platform for him to come back to because 1397 01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:22.399 ww wasn't apparently interested. And if it seems like you 1398 01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:24.159 fell off the face of the earth, well it's because 1399 01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:26.159 he pretty much did I changed. 1400 01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.439 My phone renumber. Wow, I didn't want to hear asked 1401 01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:30.199 that story. I didn't want to answer that story. I 1402 01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:34.000 don't answered any more questions about that anymore. On the 1403 01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:39.159 other hand, have been so many good people that you know, strangers, like, 1404 01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:41.760 for instance, when I was going to the dealings, I 1405 01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:44.800 knew for instance, I had I could walk get out 1406 01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:46.760 of my vehicle, and I could walk so many steps 1407 01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:49.520 before I had to sit down. There were people that 1408 01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:53.199 were personally parkeding my vehicle for me, opening the doors. 1409 01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:54.199 For me, things like that. 1410 01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:57.039 You know, hey, we're praying for you. I think those 1411 01:09:57.159 --> 01:09:59.680 were good things that were good that parts of my 1412 01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:03.960 life kept me going. Yeah, the rest of business has 1413 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:07.199 a tendency to ask the single nag in questions if 1414 01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:09.640 you're talking to one of the boys, especially to know 1415 01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:12.439 how that leg that hadn't happened, why did it happened? 1416 01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:16.199 Explaining it time and time again. For three it seemed 1417 01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:19.039 like even today, I'm still answering it. But for three 1418 01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:21.880 four years, man, it was all day every day. 1419 01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:28.680 He changed his number. YEP, I mean, were you that 1420 01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:32.520 many people are calling you? Probably? I mean, I guess maybe, 1421 01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:33.079 But what. 1422 01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:37.439 What's his point about that? They're calling to get the 1423 01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:41.640 story right as much as they're calling to see how 1424 01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:42.680 he's doing, and he could. 1425 01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:46.399 Sense more so probably to get the story right. 1426 01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:49.760 I mean, you've heard this before. Like around then, It's 1427 01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:51.399 like I didn't text him back because I got the 1428 01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:53.199 sense that he was texting me not because he wanted 1429 01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:55.560 to know how I was doing, but because he wanted 1430 01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:57.359 to know how I was doing so we could pass 1431 01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:00.159 it along, right and be the person in possession of 1432 01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:03.800 new information about something that was water cooler talk in 1433 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:09.079 the wrestling business. Definitely definitely the creepiest kind of person 1434 01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:10.800 you can run into. That kind of Oh, for sure, 1435 01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:12.600 you know what I mean. That's doing reconnaissance for some 1436 01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:15.239 secret poison and not actually talking to you but almost 1437 01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:18.079 talking through you in a way. And that it got 1438 01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.079 to the point that he had to change his numbers, 1439 01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:21.720 and knowing the business could call him a check in 1440 01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:25.840 on him is really I think it's really pointing us 1441 01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:28.920 to something about the wrestling business that we've always kind 1442 01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:31.439 of circled around, and I think this kind of puts 1443 01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:33.680 a finer point on it. It's like, this is a 1444 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:35.960 business where even your friends are kind of just trying 1445 01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.640 to make currency out of being your friend. M right, 1446 01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:43.000 because if I know kind of what's if I knew it, 1447 01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:45.159 and I think too, there's probably a degree of like 1448 01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:48.159 asking him over and over again what happened because they're 1449 01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:52.279 horrified it's going to happen to them. Yes, that's I 1450 01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:53.920 don't know if you know what I'm talking about, but 1451 01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.479 it always drives me pretty crazy in life, where you 1452 01:11:56.560 --> 01:11:59.520 get the sense that people are not asking questions because 1453 01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:02.840 they're concerned about the episode, that what they're really concerned 1454 01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:05.239 about is how can I tell myself that this won't 1455 01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:09.920 happen to me. I'm looking for information about this murderer 1456 01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:12.880 not because I care about the fact that somebody was killed, 1457 01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:15.039 but because I want to tell myself that I can 1458 01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:17.439 prevent the circumstances that led to this person being killed. 1459 01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:19.239 And the more I find out about it, the better 1460 01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:22.359 I can feel about myself. Kind of a selfish mission. 1461 01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:25.880 I always got the sense, you know, and whenever you'd 1462 01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:27.760 write about someone in the newspaper that went through a 1463 01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:29.840 hard time, you know, around the holidays, there'd be a 1464 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:32.159 lot of stories about families that fell upon tough times, 1465 01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:35.479 facing foreclosure or whatever the case may be, and you 1466 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:37.840 always found that people pride for details not because they 1467 01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.920 felt badly and wanted to understand and sympathize and empathize, 1468 01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:43.279 but they wanted the details because they wanted to tell 1469 01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:45.359 themselves so they couldn't find themselves in that position just 1470 01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:48.439 as easily. And it wouldn't surprise me if that was 1471 01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:50.159 going through the minds of a lot of the wrestlers 1472 01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:52.279 that had SID repeat this injury story over and over 1473 01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:56.680 and over again. You know, when in my life, might 1474 01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:59.000 I be confronted with a spot that I don't feel 1475 01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:02.640 comfortable doing? And what did what did SID not say 1476 01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:04.520 that I would have to say to prevent and prevent that? 1477 01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:08.039 You know, I have to come away from this story, 1478 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:09.520 and I'm putting words in people's mouths. 1479 01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:10.279 I don't give a fuck. 1480 01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:13.439 I have to come away from this story with something like, 1481 01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:16.039 well shit, I mean, if I was SIT, I wouldn't 1482 01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:18.039 have done that. If I was SI, I wouldn't have 1483 01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:18.319 said that. 1484 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:19.159 You know. 1485 01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:22.359 In other words, it's almost blaming the victim, right so 1486 01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:26.520 that you can feel protected, of course, if ever encountered 1487 01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:28.800 by a similar set of circumstances. Of course, all of 1488 01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:31.760 this is designed to try to navigate away from the 1489 01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:36.039 fact that you know, things don't happen per a prescribed pattern. 1490 01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:40.119 Cause and effect is almost impossible to establish in this life, 1491 01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:44.399 and you never get the solace you seek when you 1492 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:47.640 pry for details around a tragedy. You never get those. 1493 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:51.359 That's solace because it probably happened to that person for 1494 01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:53.840 reasons that you can chalk up to the randomness of 1495 01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:57.560 the universe. And that's a deeply unsettling reality. And people 1496 01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.720 will dig and dig and dig and dig and ask 1497 01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:04.840 what abouts, yeah, butts until they feel like there's some 1498 01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.159 cause and effect that they could prevent themselves from being 1499 01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:09.840 a victim to as well in the future. And when 1500 01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:11.439 someone gets hurt in the wrestling business, I don't know, 1501 01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:13.439 I feel like I've heard this before. I'm struggling to 1502 01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:15.479 come up with more examples, because you know, SID is 1503 01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:18.399 the topic to shore right now. But where it really 1504 01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:20.680 is like they're checking in on me, but they're not 1505 01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:23.600 checking in on me, not at all. They're trying to 1506 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:27.039 assuage their own anxiety and make currency out of the 1507 01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:29.439 information I may provide to them. So the fact that 1508 01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:31.960 the fact that it got to the point and two 1509 01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:35.000 I got to think for somebody is work out obsessed 1510 01:14:35.039 --> 01:14:37.880 and physique obsessed to Sid. I mean, how much much 1511 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:40.159 it must it fuck with you that the only thing 1512 01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:42.199 anybody wants to ask you is how you'll never be 1513 01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:42.760 the same again? 1514 01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:51.159 Essentially? Oh, I mean yeah, he's basically being told all 1515 01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:53.920 the time that he's just you know, it's you know, 1516 01:14:53.960 --> 01:14:56.199 you're never going to be what you were, right, It's 1517 01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:58.840 not going to happen, so stop. 1518 01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:04.600 It's you know, when you think about Sid and when 1519 01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:07.640 he passed and we thought about a tribute show, it 1520 01:15:07.720 --> 01:15:09.760 was like, all right, yeah, the Hogan feud, the funny 1521 01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:13.520 shit he said in WCW, you know, bursting onto the 1522 01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:17.399 scene in NWA. But you almost forget that, Like the 1523 01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:20.800 ending is what's most poignant about the Sid story. 1524 01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:22.439 Yeah, yeah, it's true. 1525 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:25.359 It's underplayed because he underplayed it, because he changed his number, 1526 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:28.520 because he wasn't out there doing reams of interviews about 1527 01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:31.199 the rehab process. It wasn't documented under wrestling. You know, 1528 01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:33.840 if WCW was still in business, I'm sure we would 1529 01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:37.560 have gotten vignettes of him recuperating, right, Oh, for sure, 1530 01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:38.920 they would have tried to do something that would have 1531 01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:40.399 done a sit down at his house or something. They 1532 01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:42.840 would have tried to make content out of it, but 1533 01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:47.239 the fact that it aligned that it was coincident with 1534 01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:50.840 the final circling of the drain of World Championship Wrestling 1535 01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:54.279 as a business really put this story even further and deeper, 1536 01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:56.239 I think, into the shadows and the recesses of the 1537 01:15:56.279 --> 01:15:58.800 wrestling fan's mind. Yes, because back then it was truly 1538 01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:00.920 out of sight, out of mind. I mean, honestly, there 1539 01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:03.560 was no social media. You couldn't keep people abreast of 1540 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:06.560 how you were doing independent of a platform like a 1541 01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:10.439 wrestling television show or doing an interview for a wrestling 1542 01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:12.560 website or something like that, thing wrestlers probably you know, 1543 01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:16.319 wouldn't do anyway. But you know, there was no way 1544 01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:18.039 to keep people abreast of how you were doing if 1545 01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:21.439 you were still alive, you know, if you couldn't walk 1546 01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:25.520 still or did your leg ever recover, No idea, Nope, 1547 01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.119 Sid just scouries into the corner and again changing his 1548 01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:32.319 number and going into a depression and becoming very difficult 1549 01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:35.800 to deal with on the home front. It's years that 1550 01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.560 it's years that are really cruel for a guy who 1551 01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:47.800 mastered this character of being this complete separated from reality guy. Right, Yeah, 1552 01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:50.600 that he's got the ultimate reality check he does in 1553 01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:54.119 the form of immobility and inability to be the only 1554 01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:56.640 thing that ever paid the bills for him. Really, I 1555 01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:58.640 mean that's not true. I mean, you know, he found 1556 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:00.600 ways in agriculture to pay the bill, but I mean 1557 01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:01.399 pay the bills that. 1558 01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:03.720 Yeah, But I mean, look, you're not making that much 1559 01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:06.159 money compared to wrestling, right, And he was always very 1560 01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.800 comfortable with that. At least he's represented it. But he 1561 01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:11.359 had a funny way of showing it because he would 1562 01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:13.319 go back to the negotiating table every chance he got 1563 01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:16.199 try to get a little more. So for someone that 1564 01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:18.520 was perfectly happy with the farm boy lifestyle, he certainly 1565 01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:20.840 minded his p's and q's from a fucking W two 1566 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:23.000 perspective or ten ninety nine perspective. 1567 01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:27.560 I think I should say, as we've documented and talked about, 1568 01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:32.039 so there it goes sid oft into the shadows. Well, 1569 01:17:32.039 --> 01:17:35.880 we hear from him again, we're not sure it was. 1570 01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:38.760 There were some indignities here, and you start to sense 1571 01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:42.279 in little drips and drabs that he didn't just chalk 1572 01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:45.039 this up to dark fate, that he's starting to feel 1573 01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:47.800 a little, a little kind of pissed off about being 1574 01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:50.399 put in this position in the first place. Here's a 1575 01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:53.199 clip from a podcast that he did about the injury, 1576 01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:55.960 and he remembers one thing in particular that was an 1577 01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:59.800 indignity about the immediate aftermath of this injury in Indianapolis. 1578 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.359 To be honest with you, Luke, I was just I 1579 01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:05.800 was thinking about that a little bit today. You never 1580 01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:08.880 recovered for something like that, first of all, and how 1581 01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:13.399 they treated me was pretty not that well. Meaning to 1582 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:17.520 get from the hospital to the airport, if my wife 1583 01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:19.680 hadn't have been there, I wouldn't have made it, and 1584 01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:21.920 so they left me and her to do it by ourselves. 1585 01:18:22.439 --> 01:18:24.439 She can't push me up a hill in a wheelchair. 1586 01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:27.319 We struggled getting the airport at a nacy little airport 1587 01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.520 airport at Indianapolis, And so that would be the answer 1588 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:33.680 to that. They didn't treat me very well on that deal. Now, 1589 01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.279 as far as how it affected me to my life 1590 01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:40.399 is it's the effect they ever joined my body from 1591 01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:42.960 my shoulders being on that walker for so long, and 1592 01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:44.079 the crutches. 1593 01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:43.800 And. 1594 01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:47.840 Now that i'm you know this left leg where I 1595 01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:50.359 broke it, now my right knee I need knee replacement. 1596 01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:53.479 I'm fighting against that actually is doing much better, however, 1597 01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:58.479 But again it's just it's just it's just a domino effect. 1598 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:01.399 This made that ankle now starting to work itself to 1599 01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:04.199 my hips and not bad, you know, but I can 1600 01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:07.720 feel it, you know, so you never the answer is 1601 01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:08.920 you never recovered. 1602 01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:09.359 Something like that loop. 1603 01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:13.479 That's probably to sleep. They put horses asleep because the 1604 01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:16.680 break is so far down from my heart. It can 1605 01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:19.920 never men. I don't know why. 1606 01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:21.239 The doctor's never really. 1607 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:23.760 Excited to me that I pretty much lost lost my 1608 01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:29.239 left calf over the years. I can't extends. I can't 1609 01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:31.880 walk on my left hill if you ever tried that. 1610 01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:35.039 I can walk on my right hill with my foot 1611 01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:39.199 off the ground, but not my left. So I got 1612 01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:41.199 really just used in one leg. 1613 01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:46.720 Ended up on one legged man. And he walked around 1614 01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:48.960 and did some wrestling, but he was a one legged man. 1615 01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:52.840 And and that's an interview that he did well after 1616 01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:56.439 there was any pretense of him getting back into a 1617 01:19:56.680 --> 01:19:59.279 high earning position in the wrestling business. That was him 1618 01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:02.399 years and years, I think twenty twenty one. Actually talking 1619 01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:06.520 about the final analysis, if you will, about the injury 1620 01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:08.039 told you don't even think about, like you said, the 1621 01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.560 crutches and the walker and what that does to your shoulders, 1622 01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:13.600 right to carry all that weight just on shoulders that 1623 01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:16.760 was that was never accustomed to carrying it before. I'd 1624 01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:20.600 imagine all kinds of muscles and joints get strained like 1625 01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:23.039 they've never experienced before as you try to rehab something 1626 01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:25.279 like that, And even when the leg gets a bit better, 1627 01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:27.399 all of a sudden you're dealing with a knee replacement 1628 01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:29.800 in the other knee, or you're dealing with a shoulder 1629 01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:30.880 issue or a hip issue. 1630 01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:33.640 Right, man fell apart. 1631 01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:37.119 Jesus, the man fell apart physically and mentally as a 1632 01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:40.680 result of what happened at Sin two thousand and one. 1633 01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:43.960 And it's crazy that this is kind of where that 1634 01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:48.119 story ends, right, you know that there's nothing more to it. 1635 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:51.079 I mean, you would expect more from this story, but no. 1636 01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:54.039 I mean I listened to the shoot interview that he did, 1637 01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:55.920 one of them with Hannibal, and he was asked, you know, 1638 01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:57.760 if there was like a detail effect from this, and 1639 01:20:57.840 --> 01:20:58.520 here's what he said. 1640 01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:03.119 Was there ever any legal situation with WCW over them 1641 01:21:03.199 --> 01:21:05.119 asking me to do a movie we're comfortable with? 1642 01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:05.600 No? 1643 01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:14.159 Come now, the plaintiff Sydney Rudy and pursu into OCGA 1644 01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:18.159 nine to eleven fifteen A files this amended complaint and 1645 01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:22.600 further shows the court as follows. No legal Rammit, give 1646 01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:25.520 me a fucking break, sid Have we not learned anything 1647 01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:26.359 about sid Udy? 1648 01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:27.079 Oh? 1649 01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:30.039 Did he not go down to the Fulton County Courthouse 1650 01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:33.000 and seek redressed from the legal system for what happened 1651 01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:34.840 to him at SIN two thousand and one? Here got 1652 01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:38.399 Jimmer and are we uniquely positioned as the podcast to 1653 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:38.960 bring it to you? 1654 01:21:39.159 --> 01:21:39.319 Yes? 1655 01:21:39.399 --> 01:21:42.039 We fucking are. Did this take three four years after 1656 01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:44.399 the injury to resolve? Yes, it did, Boss. You see 1657 01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:48.960 in your possession, Oh boy, series of documents, oh boy, 1658 01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:52.920 pulled and called from your co chairman. Of course, enjoying 1659 01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.800 the resources we do from the support of the TLF 1660 01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:58.960 Solar system, we're able to go the extra mile and 1661 01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:01.279 pull some court filing to bring you the full story. 1662 01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:04.119 Things that a lot of details I'm sure that to 1663 01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:06.359 this point have never been made public. There's a bit 1664 01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:08.680 out there about this because he did appeal it, and 1665 01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:12.920 those appealed decisions are pretty well circulated and easy to google, 1666 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:15.520 which is also the case for example, in the Russo 1667 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.720 versus Hogan w W Bashett's Beach Case. But as anybody 1668 01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:21.039 who listened to those shows will tell you that that 1669 01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:24.840 appeal decision does not tell you anywhere close to the 1670 01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:27.479 full story. You got to go a bit deeper and 1671 01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:29.760 pull some more files than that. And so he fucking 1672 01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:32.000 did it, because I don't know if you think this 1673 01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:33.520 is a game by now, I don't know if you've 1674 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:38.159 got the memo, but it's not. In the Superior Court 1675 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:42.279 of Fulton County, State of Georgia, Sydney rud plaintiff versus 1676 01:22:43.239 --> 01:22:47.840 Universal Wrestling Corporation Incorporated Formerly known as World Championship Wrestling, Inc. 1677 01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:51.840 Turner Sports, Inc. And Turner Entertainment Group Incorporated. And who 1678 01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:56.880 else is a defendant boss named Johnny Laurenidis and parties 1679 01:22:57.039 --> 01:22:59.000 X Y and Z. If you have in front of 1680 01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.439 you what parties X Y and Z mean, Well, we'll 1681 01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:05.079 get to it. It's I think it's people he doesn't 1682 01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:08.520 really quite know to identify yet. And sid leg complaint 1683 01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:09.079 is that what you have? 1684 01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:10.600 I have? 1685 01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:15.159 Yes, Okay, So we're gonna turned it over to sid 1686 01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:17.359 Udy himself, and what I understand has been prepared to 1687 01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:21.880 deliver a dramatic reading Uh, this is basically the first 1688 01:23:22.159 --> 01:23:26.199 shot across the bow. The lawsuit filed. It's February fifth, 1689 01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:29.239 two thousand and three. And Sid has been going through 1690 01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:31.479 all the rehab that we've heard him talk about. Sid's 1691 01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:35.520 been boiling and simmering with tension about how this whole 1692 01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:38.239 thing went down. And Uh, if my math is right, 1693 01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:40.960 his WCW contract is about to expire. 1694 01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:44.720 Or it already has. Those checks have stopped coming. I 1695 01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:46.039 think two. 1696 01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:49.600 Yeah, most people rather yeah, most people seem to say 1697 01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:52.119 that their deals ran through twenty two, that the latest 1698 01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:54.319 we know his, though we do know his, we do 1699 01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:54.600 know his. 1700 01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:56.439 Yeah, what am I saying? And there was twenty o two? 1701 01:23:56.479 --> 01:23:58.880 You're right? I think it was two thousand and two. Yep. 1702 01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:01.800 So all of a sudden, the check star stop rolling, 1703 01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:03.359 and it's time to see if we can't get a 1704 01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:06.039 little more, because God damn it, I'm in this position 1705 01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:10.159 because of World Championship Wrestling and johny Lorinitis's negligence, and 1706 01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:11.600 I'm gonna find an attorney. 1707 01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:15.279 Who agreed to this on my own. This was not 1708 01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:17.359 my decision. 1709 01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:20.439 As he points to the leg and as he points 1710 01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:23.399 to the courthouse, boss, please let us hear the case 1711 01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:24.640 is laid out by mister. 1712 01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:30.560 Udy starting from second amended complaint. That's exactly correct. Second 1713 01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:37.119 amended complaint comes. Now the plaintiff, Sydney Rudy and pursued 1714 01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:42.880 OCGA nine eleven fifteen A files this amended complaint and 1715 01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:49.079 further shows the court as follows jurisdiction and venue number one. 1716 01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:54.560 Plaintiff Sydney Ruty, Mister Beauty is a resident of the 1717 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:59.039 state of Arkansas. Mister Beauty entered into contracts with one 1718 01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:02.319 or more of defend in the state of Georgia as 1719 01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:10.199 a professional wrestler defendant. Universal Wrestling Corporation Incorporated UWC, a 1720 01:25:10.359 --> 01:25:16.439 Georgia corporation, was formerly known as World Championship Wrestling Incorporated, 1721 01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:24.239 a Georgia Corporation. UWC's address is seventy five Rockerfeller Plaza, 1722 01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:27.159 New York. 1723 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:30.560 You fucking really, I guess so. I mean, we've talked 1724 01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:33.920 about this on Bash of the Beach. When ww folded, 1725 01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:37.159 they created this entity UWC to handle all the winding 1726 01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:39.920 down business matters of the company. Interestingly, UWC was also 1727 01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:42.479 the name given to the transition company when Crocketts held 1728 01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:46.000 to Turner in eighty eight. But yeah, they just incorporated 1729 01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:47.960 it in New York, right, I think the Turner offices 1730 01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:49.800 were essentially located at the time. 1731 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.159 Like how did they do that? So it's just very weird, Like, 1732 01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:57.840 I mean, I know that, but like, how did so? 1733 01:25:58.159 --> 01:26:01.520 So w CW was owned WWE at this point. 1734 01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:04.000 Right, so they couldn't call it WCW anymore because that 1735 01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:05.960 had been sold. They had to create a new company 1736 01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:10.279 that could absorb all of the obligations and paperwork that 1737 01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:14.279 WWE didn't want, WOW didn't take with them and call 1738 01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:18.920 that the assets and liabilities of a Universal Wrestling Corporation. 1739 01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:24.319 That's wild. UWC can be served through its registered agent, 1740 01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:31.079 CT Corporation System, twelve oh one Peachtree Street, Northeast Atlanta, Georgia, 1741 01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:34.680 three zero three sixty one. UWC is subject to the 1742 01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:44.560 jurisdiction of this court defendant Turner Sports Incorporated. TSI, Well, 1743 01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:46.920 why do they have to put I guess just for 1744 01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:48.399 the sake of ease of having the right? 1745 01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:51.119 Yeah, exactly. 1746 01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:55.920 Is a Georgia corporation may be served through its registered 1747 01:26:55.960 --> 01:27:00.039 agent in Georgia. CT Corporation System twelve o one on 1748 01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:04.800 PHG Street, Northeast Atlanta, Georgia, three zero three six y one. 1749 01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:10.399 TSI's address is seventy five Rockefeller Plaza, J. Cannon, New York, 1750 01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:14.680 New York, one double O one nine. TSI is subject 1751 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:20.800 to the jurisdiction of this court. Defendant Turner Entertainment Group 1752 01:27:22.119 --> 01:27:27.439 Incorporated TEG is a Georgia corporation and may be served 1753 01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:31.920 through its registered agent and Georgia CT Corporation System twelve 1754 01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:35.359 oh one Pachtree Street at Atlanta, Georgia, three zero three 1755 01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:41.800 sixty one. TG's address is seventy five Rockefeller Plaza, J. Cannon, 1756 01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:45.880 New York, New York, one double oh one nine. TG 1757 01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:47.960 is subject to the jurisdiction of this court. 1758 01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:50.800 Said, are you subject to the jurisdiction of this court? 1759 01:27:51.439 --> 01:27:57.000 I'm not subjected to anything. My jurisdiction is where I 1760 01:27:57.199 --> 01:27:57.680 say it is. 1761 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:03.439 There's another T shirt. SID is very concerned with jurisdiction 1762 01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:04.159 in this Uh. 1763 01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:06.439 Oh, your damn fucking writing. 1764 01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:07.600 Post wrestling career days. 1765 01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:12.199 You don't need to worry about my jurisdiction, right My 1766 01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:19.119 jurisdiction is where I see fit. Defendant Johnny laurinidis mister 1767 01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:23.800 Laura notiis Johnny and mister Lauren IIDs Okay, can you 1768 01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:28.880 call me that? Call me mister Laurenidis huh No, but 1769 01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:32.800 I will call you what does it say next, Johnny 1770 01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:36.800 Ace or mister Ace? 1771 01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:41.159 I mean only in wrestling when you name a defendant 1772 01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:43.720 and official court papers, do you have to include his 1773 01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:46.359 k FA name with the mister in front of it? 1774 01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:48.399 Because I mean that's the best part. Like you could 1775 01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:52.880 call you know, mister so excuse me, mister Ace. Yeah, 1776 01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:55.359 he would answer to it. That's the point, of course. 1777 01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:56.159 That's exactly it. 1778 01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:58.279 Like if you're gonna sue Shawn Michaels, are you really 1779 01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:00.520 just gonna call him mister Hickenbottom throughout the entirety of 1780 01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:03.560 the doctor Michaels. It's a fake name pulled out of 1781 01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:04.239 the fucking sky. 1782 01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:05.960 How about how about mister Heartbreak? 1783 01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:09.239 Oh jeez, how about sham Michaels. 1784 01:29:09.960 --> 01:29:15.399 Shaw Michaels is a resident of Florida and maybe served 1785 01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:19.239 personally through his attorneys James A. Lambert and Joel P. 1786 01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:25.119 Howell Troutman Sanders, LLP. Six hundred p Stree Street, Northeast 1787 01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:30.119 Bank of America, Plaza Sweet fifty two hundred, Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia, 1788 01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:35.560 three zero three zero eight then you is proper in 1789 01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:39.560 this court. I feel good I've secured Troutman Sanders or 1790 01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:43.640 Sawders out Sanders. You know what, I'm gonna tell you something, 1791 01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:47.920 Johnny Ace, I went fishing for trout Man. I got 1792 01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:49.840 that right this. 1793 01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:51.720 Oh by the way, as we read through this, I 1794 01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:53.439 do want to remind you that this was his answer 1795 01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:55.079 to the question, was. 1796 01:29:55.079 --> 01:29:59.000 There ever any legal situation with WCW over them asking 1797 01:29:59.039 --> 01:30:01.119 me to do a movie where comfortable with No. 1798 01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:05.000 We can hardly even see him fucking say it too, 1799 01:30:05.279 --> 01:30:08.039 m fucking liar? Why lie about that? 1800 01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:12.159 That's just a big demerit in my mind? Man, when 1801 01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:13.640 you can look it up on the public record like. 1802 01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:16.319 That, Like, what's the point of hiding that? Like, I mean, 1803 01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:18.279 are you dumb about court records? 1804 01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:20.000 Like that tells me he didn't get the resolution he 1805 01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:22.479 was looking for. If he got the resolution, he was 1806 01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:24.479 not thought he deserved. You better believe That's the first 1807 01:30:24.520 --> 01:30:26.239 thing he would say every time he told this story. 1808 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:30.720 Venue is proper in this court? What does that mean? 1809 01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:32.119 Venue is proper? 1810 01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:34.560 That just beings Like remember how Vince failed on venue 1811 01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:36.520 the case against him because he wasn't in New York. 1812 01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:39.039 So you know, don't try to argue that I'm not 1813 01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:41.560 in the right court filing this even though w CW 1814 01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:43.520 doesn't exist anymore and isn't based in Georgia. 1815 01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:49.039 Got Jim statement of the facts. W CW entered into 1816 01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:52.319 contracts and agreements for services of mister Udi as a 1817 01:30:52.479 --> 01:30:53.680 professional wrestler. 1818 01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:57.840 I'm surprised he stipulated to that. It took a long 1819 01:30:57.880 --> 01:30:59.720 time to get that first line out of him. 1820 01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:04.039 Yeah, right, I don't o't an's contral. What is this? Then, said? 1821 01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:06.039 Do you tell me I'm trying to write a brief 1822 01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:06.359 here for. 1823 01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:09.079 Your interesting right, there's a piece of paper. Yeah, and 1824 01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:12.720 you signed it? You signed it? What you signed it? Well? 1825 01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:14.359 Why do we have so much trouble with the basic 1826 01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:16.159 first line of this thing. I'm gonna tell you right now, 1827 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:19.840 you look at my eyes, right now, exactly, I'm gonna 1828 01:31:19.880 --> 01:31:24.520 tell you some real simple I signed a piece of 1829 01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:29.680 paper that's hot. Well, yes, it's called the contract. Uh uh, 1830 01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:33.520 all it is is a dead tree. Wow, there's nothing 1831 01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:38.359 legal or obligatory on that paper. 1832 01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:40.279 Let me ask you, what could you have signed besides 1833 01:31:40.439 --> 01:31:41.920 a piece of paper that would be binding. 1834 01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:45.600 Listen, when I signed something that is binding, I sign 1835 01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:49.439 it with my blood. I see, I will pierce open 1836 01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:53.279 my skin, I may son, I will pour hot on 1837 01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:54.399 a piece of something. 1838 01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:59.079 Right, that's when you know I've stipulated to terms. As 1839 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:02.520 for now, I'm will to sign this contract with your blood, counselor. 1840 01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:06.239 I'm willing to sign anything with your blood. I'm allowing 1841 01:32:06.359 --> 01:32:07.399 your blood to pour. 1842 01:32:09.359 --> 01:32:11.640 Here's the thing is, if if you once said to 1843 01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:13.399 sign something in blood, the trouble is you gotta hire 1844 01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:15.039 a surgeon and anestesiologist. 1845 01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:24.800 Oh God, this suit arises out of defendant's wrongful termination 1846 01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:29.000 and breach of that contract. In connection with the wrongful termination, 1847 01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:34.079 defendants falsely asserted that mister Beauty was incapacitated, even though 1848 01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:38.279 defendants had no intention of utilizing mister Beauty services, and 1849 01:32:38.439 --> 01:32:43.520 even though mister Beauty was not in fact incapacitation. 1850 01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:45.399 So he goes from saying I had to change my 1851 01:32:45.479 --> 01:32:48.880 number and shut the world out and couldn't move, couldn't 1852 01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:52.720 do anything too, I was not incapacitated in court filings. 1853 01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:55.479 I'm gonna tell you right now, I did break my leg, 1854 01:32:56.119 --> 01:33:04.079 but my capacitation was one hundred percent affirmative. Well Man 1855 01:33:04.159 --> 01:33:06.840 said it. Whatever it meant, I don't know, but he 1856 01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:16.119 said it my capacitation. That's fucking go. Boss. Defendance a 1857 01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:20.039 sort of reason for wrongful termination was and is a 1858 01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:26.439 mere pred He likes that one further defendants caused such 1859 01:33:26.479 --> 01:33:30.399 a legend in capacity and then wrongfully terminated these services. 1860 01:33:30.680 --> 01:33:34.640 Defendis true reason for termination is his desire to avoid 1861 01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:38.720 paying the compensation there is under the various contracts and 1862 01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:40.920 agreements for mister Uty services. 1863 01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.760 He didn't terminate me because I'm incapacitated. You terminated me 1864 01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:46.760 so you didn't have to pay me when I'm mode. 1865 01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:49.720 If you pay me when I'm mode, I will gladly 1866 01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:52.359 stipulate to being incapacitated. 1867 01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:03.560 Okay uh. Mister Uty has performed in professional wrestling Area 1868 01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:10.720 TYPO for fifteen years. Mister UTI's wrestle under the stage 1869 01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:18.319 names of Lord Humongous, Sid Justice, and Sid Vicious. Mister 1870 01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:23.239 Uti developed a degree of notoriety for his skills and characters. 1871 01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:28.359 That's one way to summarize his career. Mister Uti developed 1872 01:34:28.399 --> 01:34:30.600 a degree of notoriety, a. 1873 01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:32.000 Notoriety of his skills. 1874 01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:39.920 It's just so funny when this has to translate into 1875 01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:42.079 legal ease. You know, yeah, when you actually have to 1876 01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:46.560 talk about this shit legitimately. It's it's like you, you know, 1877 01:34:46.840 --> 01:34:50.399 you just you're just fucking it's just fucking failure. 1878 01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:51.279 I can't wait. 1879 01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:54.039 Yeah, right for the judge to say something about how 1880 01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:55.279 it's not even real you know. 1881 01:34:55.479 --> 01:35:00.520 Yeah yeah. During this this agreement, mister U, you performed 1882 01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:04.880 well okay, and always exhibit a great work ethic and 1883 01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:09.199 one above and beyond others. He maintained his character and 1884 01:35:09.279 --> 01:35:15.159 physicality for the betterment of himself and defendants. Attaining his physicality, 1885 01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:20.960 maintaining his character and physicality a great work ethic when 1886 01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:25.720 above and beyond others, I did it better than Hulk Hogan, 1887 01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:30.119 a big movie star himself. Why why are you not 1888 01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:32.199 paying me? It's because I'm not a big movie star. 1889 01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:36.840 Why you're not recognizing me in court is because I'm 1890 01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:37.840 not a big movie star. 1891 01:35:38.119 --> 01:35:40.479 Mister, mister Judy, please sit down. Order in the court. 1892 01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:43.279 He's just shouting it across the court room. 1893 01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:44.039 There's no one there. 1894 01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:46.720 It's like a civil court. 1895 01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:59.720 And his best done, mister Judy. Please, mister who are 1896 01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:04.800 you talking? Mister who what? Sir? You're looking in the 1897 01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:07.640 back of the court. Is there somebody there that I mean, 1898 01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:13.239 there's nobody here, sir, that's good and we're live pal 1899 01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:19.840 right as well. 1900 01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:22.199 That's one we haven't tried yet. The well meaning judge, 1901 01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:25.199 you know what I mean, the one who really wants 1902 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:26.279 to understand these guys. 1903 01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:32.960 And mister, I'm just trying to understand what is going on, okay, 1904 01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:37.680 and you just keep sir, you keep your shut I 1905 01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:39.600 couldn't believe he said that to that man. That judge 1906 01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:43.000 is sweet as a Georgia peach. I'm listening. I'll tell 1907 01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:45.000 you what. I'm not gonna hold you in contempt, even 1908 01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:47.640 though you just said he told me to shut up. 1909 01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:57.359 I'm just trying to understand. I can't he said, believe 1910 01:36:57.359 --> 01:36:59.399 he said that about Judge Anderson. He's a sweet as 1911 01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:02.199 the Georgia pa and he went out there and said 1912 01:37:02.239 --> 01:37:04.399 shut up right to the man's face. I couldn't believe it. 1913 01:37:05.159 --> 01:37:08.039 So I just want to look, Okay, we're just trying 1914 01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:12.479 to understand each other. You don't understand anything. You know why, 1915 01:37:13.640 --> 01:37:18.640 because it's because I'm a big movie star. I don't know. 1916 01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:21.720 To hear a big movie star or not, I don't know. 1917 01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:24.279 I mean, isn't wrestling kind of like acting? I mean, 1918 01:37:24.359 --> 01:37:28.000 what you do is performance hard, is it not? Listen, 1919 01:37:28.079 --> 01:37:32.560 I appreciate that, please, I just want to understand what 1920 01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:35.560 it is. You just look me deadney eye. He's some 1921 01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:41.479 bid I'm looking you dead in the high. He is 1922 01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:48.159 so easily intimidated, this judge, it's incredible, the absolut opposite 1923 01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:51.560 of Jacob Mischler, exactly. He just wants to fucking he 1924 01:37:51.680 --> 01:37:55.319 wants to get to the bottom of this. He sympathizes, right. 1925 01:37:55.880 --> 01:38:00.880 He feels badly that Sid can't like represent himself appropriately 1926 01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:03.000 and can't tell his lawyers what he really thinks. 1927 01:38:03.119 --> 01:38:07.279 You know, I listen, listen, I've had these kind of 1928 01:38:07.399 --> 01:38:12.039 things happen. All right. I'm on your side, mister Udie. 1929 01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:16.600 You don't even know what a side is. I'm gonna 1930 01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:23.079 look at you right now. I'm like Dusty Rhodes. You 1931 01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:25.119 look me dead in the eye, and what hit you 1932 01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:29.880 in the head? Like a shoot because you the court 1933 01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:32.479 officer puts his hand on his gun when he says that, well, 1934 01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:36.479 we'll got going on here, this guy on the shoot somebody. 1935 01:38:36.479 --> 01:38:38.560 I would just recommend, sir, you watch the rhetoric. 1936 01:38:38.640 --> 01:38:41.439 Okay, in this cart, we'll say, mister, you all sit 1937 01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:44.840 your ass down because I look I don't know what 1938 01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:47.079 you got just waving him off in the head. We 1939 01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:50.159 do not allow that, officer. 1940 01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:51.880 It's really fine. The judge is waving him off. 1941 01:38:52.920 --> 01:38:57.199 Just just calm down. Herman. Herman. Herman's ready to come 1942 01:38:57.279 --> 01:38:59.279 up off the hip. He's been waiting for this day, 1943 01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:02.359 your honor. I'm just on him to say we don't 1944 01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:06.199 allow people shoot themselves in court, or. 1945 01:39:06.199 --> 01:39:10.520 Shoot their own angles for that matter, using the judicial 1946 01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:11.560 process to cut a promo. 1947 01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:15.199 Misters mister Ughten's I need you to sit down. 1948 01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:17.640 Mister Huts. I grew up on Georgia tampship wrestling, and 1949 01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:18.520 I know what you're doing. 1950 01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:21.800 I know what you do for a living. A big fan. 1951 01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:26.640 I'm with a hand on his gun. He's saying there, 1952 01:39:28.279 --> 01:39:31.000 like I don't want to have to take drastic action. 1953 01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:41.199 He says, I'm a big fan. Oh great maniacal courtroom. 1954 01:39:41.920 --> 01:39:44.159 Well, I mean he's here, he's filing it's sid filing 1955 01:39:44.199 --> 01:39:46.319 a complaint and he can't work out anymore. What do 1956 01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:49.319 you think is going to happen? And you're not going 1957 01:39:49.359 --> 01:39:54.760 to pay him three hundred percent of his paycheck. I 1958 01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:57.680 love the idea of just this you know this tall 1959 01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:03.920 but like you know old bellied. Uh a bailiff. 1960 01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:09.159 You know, fucking you know, this guy's fucking hand you know, 1961 01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:12.479 you know, fucking buzz cut and a big bushy mustache 1962 01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:15.199 hand on his fucking the fucking gun in his hip. 1963 01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:18.640 All right, But here they just you know, maintain. 1964 01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:20.439 Order, the honor the plaintiffs that hit in the head 1965 01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:21.600 like a shot. I don't know how much you want 1966 01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:22.359 me to interpret that. 1967 01:40:22.960 --> 01:40:24.720 No, sir, I just don't want you to get hit 1968 01:40:24.760 --> 01:40:26.880 in the head with the shot. I don't want anyone 1969 01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:29.279 get shot in my courtroom, my. 1970 01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:33.039 Courtroom, court officer. Really, the judge just my chopped liver. 1971 01:40:33.159 --> 01:40:37.279 Here, her did you say my court room? Herman, herman? 1972 01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:41.119 Please let me can I just please please? All right? 1973 01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:46.640 We got this under control, all right, Judge Barnett. We 1974 01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:47.359 are in Atlanta. 1975 01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:49.439 Oh god. 1976 01:40:50.960 --> 01:40:51.119 Uh. 1977 01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:54.399 W c W was a company that was engaged in 1978 01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:59.000 the professional wrestling business. W CW was and is a 1979 01:40:59.239 --> 01:41:07.279 quote division of Turner Sports. I like that it is 1980 01:41:07.399 --> 01:41:09.800 in quotes as a division of Turner Sports. 1981 01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:12.000 Well, they're quoting documents directly when they do that. 1982 01:41:12.439 --> 01:41:15.119 Sure, well, I'm saying it's a quote as should Turner 1983 01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:17.439 Entertainment Turner Sports. 1984 01:41:17.520 --> 01:41:20.680 Well, was it at the time this happened, it was well, 1985 01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:22.880 I know, I'm just saying, so that's an error. 1986 01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:27.600 Quote under sports. It's quoted sports. Yes, okay, it's a sport. 1987 01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:30.960 Yeah, before you disbelieve us, we got to put that 1988 01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:32.239 in quotes exactly. 1989 01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:35.520 Because defendants have entered into contracts or agreements with a 1990 01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:40.560 number of individuals for their services as professional wrestlers with WCW, 1991 01:41:41.119 --> 01:41:45.239 including mister Udy. Under many of these contracts, WCW is 1992 01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:48.760 required to pay the agreed upon compensation for the professional 1993 01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:52.960 wrestler services, regardless of whether or not defendants elect to 1994 01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:56.760 actually use the services and any of it's wrestling. 1995 01:41:57.079 --> 01:41:59.319 They're gonna tell me you can't use my services without 1996 01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:02.359 inquiring a prowardly as to whether those services are duly available. 1997 01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:05.039 You're just going to assume that right now that w 1998 01:42:05.199 --> 01:42:08.359 CW is required to pay whether or not my services 1999 01:42:08.439 --> 01:42:13.600 have been used or remain unused or partially used. 2000 01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:16.960 You have left my services unused, but you will not 2001 01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:19.520 leave my paycheck undistributed. 2002 01:42:20.239 --> 01:42:22.920 Let me tell you something right now, w CW. You 2003 01:42:23.119 --> 01:42:27.359 have you have left my my services unused, but my wallet, 2004 01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:30.920 my wallet will not remain unopened. 2005 01:42:36.359 --> 01:42:38.920 He's talking like geni angle. He's talking like basically a secretary. 2006 01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:43.119 You know, I can't do I don't know what you 2007 01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:45.920 want from me. I just work the desk. 2008 01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:49.960 Shut up. 2009 01:42:55.359 --> 01:42:58.680 Ww entered into an independent contract agreement with mister ud 2010 01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:04.359 Damn right fuck yeah, shit then right independent contract shit 2011 01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:09.279 fuck it mister u d as of June nine nine 2012 01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:14.079 here and referred to you as the agreement. The agreement, 2013 01:43:14.119 --> 01:43:17.960 among other things, sets forth compensation the w CW agrees 2014 01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:20.159 to pay for mister Udi services. 2015 01:43:20.319 --> 01:43:23.079 And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why we have a 2016 01:43:23.159 --> 01:43:26.319 copy of Sid's WCW contract. Indeed, it had to be 2017 01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:28.039 filed in accordance with this lawsuit. 2018 01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:31.479 Of course, the agreement provides for a three year term 2019 01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:35.600 commenced in June ninth, ninety nine and extending to June eighth, 2020 01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:38.319 two thousand and two. Here it is there. It is 2021 01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:41.079 right there. On the agreement, the parties agree that mister 2022 01:43:41.199 --> 01:43:44.119 Uti will be paid a total paid for a total 2023 01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:48.600 of twenty four pay per view events for w CW, 2024 01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:51.600 to consist of eight pay per view events for each 2025 01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:55.439 of the three years the agreement. The compensation for each 2026 01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:58.359 pay per view was an escalating figure for each year 2027 01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:01.840 of the contract. We recall reading through the yes, the 2028 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:05.560 parties also agreed that mister Uty would perform other services 2029 01:44:05.600 --> 01:44:09.119 for w CW a certain number of other non pay 2030 01:44:09.199 --> 01:44:13.279 per view events, but the agreement specifies that the quote 2031 01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:16.640 other non pay per view events shall not shall be 2032 01:44:16.760 --> 01:44:23.560 non wrestling appearances unless otherwise agreed upon by the parties. Accordingly, 2033 01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:27.119 under the agreement, mister Uti is not required d wrestle 2034 01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:30.720 d wrestle at more than eight events per year. Wow, 2035 01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:33.199 you imagine? 2036 01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:36.239 So so wait, so like he didn't so he had 2037 01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:39.359 to wrestle eight times a year at a minimum. Yeah, 2038 01:44:39.359 --> 01:44:43.880 I mean that's that's like everything above the eight has 2039 01:44:43.960 --> 01:44:47.520 like different things that kick in. Now the contract basically 2040 01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:50.439 just sets the terms for those eight. It's kind of a. 2041 01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:55.399 It's unbelievable, like he has promised, but then anything above that, 2042 01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:56.439 that's unbelievable. 2043 01:44:56.600 --> 01:45:00.600 Right, So like this contract really just really just establishes 2044 01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:02.880 like that you owe us eight pay per view matches, 2045 01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:05.479 and anything above that is an option in the contract 2046 01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:08.000 with its own compensation schedule and terms. 2047 01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:13.000 But it is what do you they wanted to bring 2048 01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:15.279 me in for just pay per views and TV tapings 2049 01:45:15.319 --> 01:45:17.119 at first? Yea, I don't understand, brother, how come I'm 2050 01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:21.039 ill eight? Why don't I don't? I don't want to 2051 01:45:21.039 --> 01:45:26.640 wrestle a times dude? Can I uh? Could I have twelve? Well, 2052 01:45:26.720 --> 01:45:28.079 I don't want to wrestle at all, dude, to get 2053 01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:29.880 paid for it. I want to get paid for exactly. 2054 01:45:29.960 --> 01:45:31.840 I mean, well, I mean, how come you go to 2055 01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:33.640 get to the rest LA Times Favored nations? 2056 01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:33.880 Right? 2057 01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:41.680 What favored? 2058 01:45:41.760 --> 01:45:41.800 What? 2059 01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:44.600 Who's favored? 2060 01:45:44.640 --> 01:45:44.760 Who? 2061 01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:52.600 Dude's favorite? Right favorite Hogan favorite Hogan contract? 2062 01:45:52.680 --> 01:45:57.039 Brother, my service is making unused, but my funds won't 2063 01:45:57.079 --> 01:45:58.520 go undispersed. 2064 01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:08.039 Ah, However, the agreement specifies to defend no just accordingly 2065 01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:10.159 under the greem, mister U is not right anymore anything. 2066 01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:13.000 Under the agreemp, mister Udi was not required to wrestle 2067 01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:15.840 any of their promotion. Was not required to wrestle at 2068 01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:20.119 any other events promoted by WSW. Was not required at 2069 01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:24.199 any other events pro by WSW, including Natro, Thunder or 2070 01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:29.479 non televised house shows. Brother, what I do? Why do 2071 01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:30.520 I go russell Nitro? 2072 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:30.960 Dude? 2073 01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:32.000 What's so? 2074 01:46:32.199 --> 01:46:32.439 Said? 2075 01:46:32.520 --> 01:46:33.159 Brother said? 2076 01:46:33.159 --> 01:46:35.880 I remember your second ww run so fondly, would you 2077 01:46:35.960 --> 01:46:38.880 care to characterize what your contract called for in those years? 2078 01:46:39.159 --> 01:46:40.880 Sure? At that time. 2079 01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:45.079 Mister Udi quote was not required to wrestle at any 2080 01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:48.560 other events promoted by w CW, including Nitro Thunder or 2081 01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:51.760 non televised out shows. He was not required, He was 2082 01:46:51.840 --> 01:46:54.119 not obligated. We called it. 2083 01:46:57.800 --> 01:47:00.119 He only had to wrestle. He was only required to 2084 01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:07.039 wrestle eight times, and anything else will cost you. I mean, 2085 01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:11.600 think about that, think about that really long and hard. 2086 01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:13.439 And those eight are pay per views, which have it 2087 01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:17.039 the whole, you know, split of revenue and everything, big paydays. 2088 01:47:17.600 --> 01:47:20.399 It's not like those eight not have to fucking wrestle. Ever, 2089 01:47:23.239 --> 01:47:31.159 Jesus on the agreement, defendants are not obligated utilized services. However, 2090 01:47:32.479 --> 01:47:36.079 the agreement specifies if defendants are required to pay the 2091 01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:40.399 compensation set forth in the agreement, even if WWTS not 2092 01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:42.720 to use mister huty services. 2093 01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:46.199 So strange, it's like it's you said right there that 2094 01:47:46.760 --> 01:47:49.960 the contract doesn't guarantee you anything but eight matches. Yet 2095 01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:51.560 you're saying they have to pay you if they don't 2096 01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:53.960 use your services, right, I guess he means, you know, 2097 01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:55.359 if you book me on six pay per views, you've 2098 01:47:55.359 --> 01:47:57.520 got to pay me for eight. Book me on two, 2099 01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:58.800 got to pay me for eight. Book me on one, 2100 01:47:58.880 --> 01:48:01.079 got to pay me for eight. Book me onzero zero. 2101 01:48:01.039 --> 01:48:04.560 You gotta pay me for eight. Under the agreement, mister 2102 01:48:04.680 --> 01:48:07.319 Uti was required to follow the direction of defendants and 2103 01:48:07.399 --> 01:48:12.319 their employees that that had to be put in their city. 2104 01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:14.359 I gotta you get a fucking all. Right, listen, you 2105 01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:18.279 gotta follow what I fucking say. All these are my directions. 2106 01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:24.079 I'm an employee of defendant. Even before he files, the 2107 01:48:24.119 --> 01:48:27.760 Los City calls himself, Yeah, I know what the fuck 2108 01:48:27.840 --> 01:48:31.159 is going to happen. You know, listen, I'm an employee 2109 01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:34.520 of defendant, and therefore you're required to follow my directions. 2110 01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:37.720 You know my directions say turn left on the fucking 2111 01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:39.960 ninety five. Yeah. It wouldn't be the. 2112 01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:43.479 First to follow Kev's directions, as anyone who's ever written 2113 01:48:43.520 --> 01:48:45.119 with them can attest, yeap. 2114 01:48:46.359 --> 01:48:49.119 Under the agreement, mister Uti was required to perform services 2115 01:48:49.239 --> 01:48:54.000 only for w CW. The agreement including an optional workers 2116 01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:57.880 compensation assurance programs and insurance policy. 2117 01:48:57.800 --> 01:48:59.199 Because it's a workman's comp claim. 2118 01:48:59.279 --> 01:49:02.920 Really, yeah right? Insurance policy was that Rick rud. 2119 01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:06.359 No, but he availed himself of the policy. 2120 01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:11.520 This insurance policy and or workers' compensation insurance program was 2121 01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:15.159 supposed to pay in the event that mister Ute was injured. 2122 01:49:15.640 --> 01:49:20.960 Upon information and belief, Defendants were the named insured under 2123 01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:24.319 the policy and received payment as a result of mister 2124 01:49:24.479 --> 01:49:29.279 Utie's injuries. Further, the amount of policies was and or 2125 01:49:29.840 --> 01:49:33.119 is the same as the value of mister Utie's agreement. 2126 01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:40.000 Defendants promoted and produced a variety of wrestling events. These 2127 01:49:40.079 --> 01:49:45.439 events included weekly live television shows and weekly tape television shows. 2128 01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:47.199 To that last point, we'll get more into it, but 2129 01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:49.800 it's worth pausing quickly to establish that. You know, when 2130 01:49:49.840 --> 01:49:52.319 a company buys workers' comp insurance or whatever the case 2131 01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:57.359 may be, insurance like he's talking about here, this insurance policy, 2132 01:49:57.680 --> 01:50:01.680 WW gets paid for the fact that SID isn't out 2133 01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:04.000 there producing revenue for them. You know, that's what the 2134 01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:06.239 insurance policy is there for. If one of our key 2135 01:50:06.319 --> 01:50:09.039 talents goes down, you will pay us money. And so 2136 01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:11.880 you better believe that that doesn't sit well with SID. Now, 2137 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:13.760 as we'll get to that doesn't necessarily mean that SID 2138 01:50:13.800 --> 01:50:15.840 didn't get any money too as a result of this program. 2139 01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:18.920 But WCW gets an insurance payout when a guy goes 2140 01:50:18.920 --> 01:50:20.760 down with an injury like this, let's. 2141 01:50:20.600 --> 01:50:21.199 Just not forget that. 2142 01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:25.880 It's just kind of weird. 2143 01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:31.039 I mean, it's very weird. It's very, very weird. These 2144 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:35.760 events included frequent non televised arenas shows referred to as 2145 01:50:35.840 --> 01:50:36.520 house shows. 2146 01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:41.199 These are the events that Defendant's promoted and produced, which 2147 01:50:41.279 --> 01:50:42.680 apparently has to be stipulated. 2148 01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:46.640 I mean, but the events that he didn't have to 2149 01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:49.520 wrestle at or participates. I don't really know why this 2150 01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:53.239 is in there. Honestly, Defenders promoter and produced a monthly 2151 01:50:53.399 --> 01:50:57.000 pay per view telecast. These events are broadcast through cable 2152 01:50:57.359 --> 01:51:01.880 and satellite transmission across the United States. These shows require 2153 01:51:02.239 --> 01:51:06.600 the audience to pay for the ability to view the event. 2154 01:51:06.920 --> 01:51:10.720 Right an early part of two thousand, mister Yudi was 2155 01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:12.239 the champion of WCW. 2156 01:51:12.520 --> 01:51:13.520 There comes the chronology. 2157 01:51:14.239 --> 01:51:17.760 Mister Eric Bischoff was the president w CW. Mister Bischoff 2158 01:51:17.840 --> 01:51:22.399 was also the president of Turner Entertainment Group Incorporated. Mister 2159 01:51:22.520 --> 01:51:25.640 Vince Russo was vice president w CW and was in 2160 01:51:25.800 --> 01:51:30.039 charge of the development of the shows. During this time, 2161 01:51:30.479 --> 01:51:35.079 mister Yudi was injured. Mister Bischoff mister Russo agreed that 2162 01:51:35.159 --> 01:51:38.319 mister Udi would not have to perform any physical acts 2163 01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:41.680 in his next few appearances because of his injuries. They 2164 01:51:41.760 --> 01:51:45.239 insisted that he make appearances even when mister Yudie should 2165 01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:48.359 have been attempted to heal himself and attend physical therapy 2166 01:51:48.640 --> 01:51:50.319 for the benefit of defendants. 2167 01:51:51.920 --> 01:51:56.880 Now, this is a reference to This is the reference 2168 01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:59.199 to that time period where Russo and Bischoff came in. 2169 01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:02.840 Remember bush Off made the scissors joke on that Nitro. Yeah, 2170 01:52:03.399 --> 01:52:06.319 so he's referencing that time period him with them being 2171 01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:08.840 he's not talking about the leg injury. He's talking about 2172 01:52:08.960 --> 01:52:12.920 injuries back in two thousand when he was champion on 2173 01:52:13.119 --> 01:52:14.000 one occasion. 2174 01:52:14.439 --> 01:52:16.720 Once occasion, brother, That's what it says. By the way, 2175 01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:19.439 what once occasion? 2176 01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:19.720 Brother? 2177 01:52:20.199 --> 01:52:21.800 They're in to rush to file? What do you want? 2178 01:52:22.479 --> 01:52:22.520 What? 2179 01:52:23.439 --> 01:52:24.399 Who's Russian dude? 2180 01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:24.800 Right? 2181 01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:26.239 Nick Volkoff? 2182 01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:29.920 He would be one example. I guess I was gonna 2183 01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:37.880 say Nikita cole Off, But that's fine. Who's Russian dude? Interestingly, No, 2184 01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:38.960 he's not. He's polish. 2185 01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:44.720 I think polish. What polished dude? 2186 01:52:44.880 --> 01:52:45.000 Right? 2187 01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:50.520 Polished? Who's he polishing? Off? Brother? Exactly? What Patterson? What 2188 01:52:51.079 --> 01:52:53.079 did you are? You did? 2189 01:52:53.159 --> 01:52:53.720 Sid file? 2190 01:52:56.039 --> 01:52:57.000 Who's falling for Sid? 2191 01:52:57.039 --> 01:52:57.279 Brother? 2192 01:52:57.640 --> 01:52:58.800 You call the clerk's office. 2193 01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:02.199 Dude, you talked dude. Anyone called clerk, dude, the clerk 2194 01:53:02.239 --> 01:53:04.319 has to call Hogan. He he pays him off on 2195 01:53:04.399 --> 01:53:07.960 the back end. So what do you know about the 2196 01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:10.319 SID filing, dude? And when come in today? Brother? What's 2197 01:53:10.359 --> 01:53:12.359 the deal? Brother? Andyone come in in file? Toldy that 2198 01:53:12.359 --> 01:53:14.319 I should know about it. Brother. I just want to know, dude, 2199 01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:16.960 if sid's coming in, brother, is he trying to get 2200 01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:20.439 whold Cogan? And what's he filing for? 2201 01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:23.760 Hogan puts someone in the Fulton County Courthouse just to 2202 01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:26.520 read every wrestling filing to see if it mentions his name, 2203 01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:27.359 even it has nothing. 2204 01:53:27.239 --> 01:53:29.239 To do with him. I mean, is he trying to 2205 01:53:29.279 --> 01:53:30.199 get my contract? Dude? 2206 01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:32.960 Years after the company closed? 2207 01:53:34.119 --> 01:53:35.359 What's he listen? 2208 01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:35.920 Listen? 2209 01:53:36.760 --> 01:53:41.479 Hogan has has an insider in every fucking courthouse in America. 2210 01:53:42.039 --> 01:53:43.840 I think by the way, I don't want this to 2211 01:53:43.880 --> 01:53:47.199 go out remarked upon. I think the quote was, does 2212 01:53:47.279 --> 01:53:48.079 he want my contract? 2213 01:53:48.159 --> 01:53:48.359 Dude? 2214 01:53:50.039 --> 01:53:58.439 Me like a copy of it, maybe if it helps 2215 01:53:58.479 --> 01:54:02.720 the case. What do you why do you want my contract? 2216 01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:07.359 Why my contract? What's the after dude? What's you want dude? 2217 01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:12.159 M what's the scuttle butt? Dude, what's what are you hearing? Exactly? 2218 01:54:12.199 --> 01:54:14.159 What's around the corner? I know what's on the paper, brother, 2219 01:54:14.439 --> 01:54:15.479 but what's the dizzil? 2220 01:54:16.039 --> 01:54:19.159 That's what I want to want. I want to know 2221 01:54:19.239 --> 01:54:21.760 what he I want to know what's in the fissile, 2222 01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:26.600 asked the big man upstairs. Brother, If you don't know 2223 01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:29.720 what I'm talking about, Oh, the big man upstairs? You 2224 01:54:29.800 --> 01:54:31.640 mean the clerk of courts. Yeah, he's on the sixth 2225 01:54:31.680 --> 01:54:37.319 law mother, the superior judge. What's brother? Who's the judge superior? 2226 01:54:44.760 --> 01:54:48.720 I rather adore that we get into the sid legal stuff, 2227 01:54:51.039 --> 01:54:54.960 and like a sentinel, Hogan rises up in the night 2228 01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:58.479 for a full accounting, like why does this have anything 2229 01:54:58.520 --> 01:54:59.039 to do with him? 2230 01:54:59.079 --> 01:54:59.399 Honestly? 2231 01:54:59.399 --> 01:55:01.319 And I know he up at times to make no sense, 2232 01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:05.079 but it's for a one off. He is intimately involved somehow. 2233 01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:07.880 This stuff we're reading has just as much to do 2234 01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:09.640 at this point with Hull Cogan as it does. 2235 01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:12.399 Listen and thinking about this. Okay, in the middle of 2236 01:55:12.399 --> 01:55:14.960 the night, he gets you know, he's waiting up in 2237 01:55:15.039 --> 01:55:19.319 his house all right, down in Tampa. All right, he's sittings, 2238 01:55:19.800 --> 01:55:22.920 He's sitting by the by the door, and at like 2239 01:55:23.359 --> 01:55:25.560 one in the morning, A car, A car pulls up, 2240 01:55:26.359 --> 01:55:28.640 all right, and he hands off an envelope and it's 2241 01:55:28.680 --> 01:55:33.920 this whole fucking yes uh complaint. And Hogan is just 2242 01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:37.479 sitting there, you know, he's got fucking reading glasses down 2243 01:55:37.560 --> 01:55:39.800 on his nose, all right, and he's just going to 2244 01:55:39.840 --> 01:55:50.039 skimming through every single one like you would do. So 2245 01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:54.520 we're talking. We're a Georgia Cord brother jurisdiction? Brother? Does 2246 01:55:54.600 --> 01:55:57.880 he a venue? Dude? Do I want to? Does he 2247 01:55:57.920 --> 01:55:59.520 sell out a venue? What a venue? 2248 01:55:59.560 --> 01:55:59.600 Do? 2249 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:02.880 But he's selling out? Brother? We can he sell out 2250 01:56:02.920 --> 01:56:06.000 this court? Dude? Is he selling out the court room? 2251 01:56:06.039 --> 01:56:09.199 We gotta talk about that. Can we get numbers? Can 2252 01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:16.239 we get Are we talking like Tokyo? Do numbers? 2253 01:56:16.279 --> 01:56:16.479 Brother? 2254 01:56:17.760 --> 01:56:17.800 Like? 2255 01:56:17.920 --> 01:56:22.960 What what venue? Dude? I've never heard of this venue? 2256 01:56:22.960 --> 01:56:23.079 Bro? 2257 01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:24.079 See what's the u w C? 2258 01:56:25.239 --> 01:56:26.119 What's the u w C? 2259 01:56:26.279 --> 01:56:26.439 Dude? 2260 01:56:26.439 --> 01:56:29.239 What's up with that? Brow promote promotion? 2261 01:56:29.319 --> 01:56:29.520 Dude? 2262 01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:31.920 Do I have to be worried? Are we talking about? 2263 01:56:33.079 --> 01:56:33.560 Are we talking? 2264 01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:37.119 It's don't worry, Terry. It stands for you wouldn't care. 2265 01:56:37.239 --> 01:56:37.680 It's fine. 2266 01:56:39.119 --> 01:56:41.159 What do you mean I wouldn't care? What's that mean? 2267 01:56:41.359 --> 01:56:41.399 Like? 2268 01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:43.039 I want to what does that mean? What do you 2269 01:56:43.079 --> 01:56:46.520 mean is there talking to you? How do you know 2270 01:56:46.600 --> 01:56:49.079 what it is? Before? I who are you talking to? 2271 01:56:49.359 --> 01:56:52.239 His own lawyers? The guys he that guy, the guys 2272 01:56:52.279 --> 01:56:54.319 who faithfully wake up at two thirty in the morning 2273 01:56:54.359 --> 01:56:57.199 when he has a panic attack over some like file 2274 01:56:58.000 --> 01:56:58.960 like listening to. 2275 01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:03.239 Has nothing to do with them, like state you know 2276 01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:06.399 the next state up? Okay, Like you're not even fucking close. 2277 01:57:06.479 --> 01:57:10.600 They're listening to him, accuse them of knowing something about 2278 01:57:10.960 --> 01:57:15.119 the UWSC looking over his fucking spectacles too, Like you 2279 01:57:15.199 --> 01:57:16.439 know what's the. 2280 01:57:16.560 --> 01:57:32.439 Lap ball wrestling podcast? The wrestling podcast that knows the 2281 01:57:32.520 --> 01:57:50.560 boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. He's a 2282 01:57:50.680 --> 01:57:55.560 lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio and Jpro. 2283 01:57:56.159 --> 01:58:00.359 Imagine Hulkogan looking over spectacles. Oh that's money. I mean 2284 01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:01.359 we learned in T n H. 2285 01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:03.880 Like Hulk reaches the stage of his life where he's 2286 01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:08.439 obsessed with lawyers, yes, courts, and obsessed his life. 2287 01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:10.239 Half of his life is in the court room, it 2288 01:58:10.319 --> 01:58:10.640 really is. 2289 01:58:10.680 --> 01:58:12.920 That's where hide the Ball comes from and all that nonsense. 2290 01:58:13.039 --> 01:58:19.159 Yeah, playing hide the ball, dude, Like, and I gotta 2291 01:58:19.159 --> 01:58:20.920 ask this question, who's he's playing who's he hiding the 2292 01:58:20.960 --> 01:58:25.000 ball from from Ulk Cogan? Right? Is this a and 2293 01:58:25.079 --> 01:58:28.079 Yang situation? You're talking about? What we're gonna tell the 2294 01:58:28.119 --> 01:58:28.520 King and the Yang? 2295 01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:28.760 Dude? 2296 01:58:28.760 --> 01:58:30.920 We got dallast thing back in. We got with some brother. 2297 01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:32.640 I think we got what we gotta do. Dude. We 2298 01:58:32.760 --> 01:58:35.720 gotta go up to Georgia. We go to this court 2299 01:58:36.399 --> 01:58:38.000 and we got Dallas thing in you. When do you 2300 01:58:38.039 --> 01:58:39.960 want to go, Terry? It's three in the morning. I 2301 01:58:40.039 --> 01:58:42.359 want to go right now. By the time we get there, 2302 01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:44.600 you fucking I'll tell you what you drive. I'm going 2303 01:58:44.680 --> 01:58:49.000 to sleep. Stop it. Showings have a bite, you know, brother? 2304 01:58:49.439 --> 01:58:51.359 You know see what stinners up to see if he 2305 01:58:51.479 --> 01:58:54.720 knows anything chicking on him anyway? Brother, Brother, I I'm 2306 01:58:54.720 --> 01:58:56.960 telling you, dude, I think he's following something too. Dude. 2307 01:58:57.000 --> 01:58:58.840 I don't know what's up with him. Brother. We got 2308 01:58:58.920 --> 01:59:03.039 to keep that ship on level. Did Steiner file, Dude? 2309 01:59:04.359 --> 01:59:10.319 What do you know about Steiner? Did he file? What 2310 01:59:10.520 --> 01:59:18.239 episode was it? What do you know about Steiner? Did 2311 01:59:18.279 --> 01:59:18.640 he file? 2312 01:59:19.359 --> 01:59:19.560 Yeah? 2313 01:59:22.199 --> 01:59:24.560 No, he hasn't filed yet. Terry isn't filed yet. How 2314 01:59:24.600 --> 01:59:26.560 do you know that's my court contacts? Tell me you 2315 01:59:26.600 --> 01:59:28.600 pay me to keep them, keep me abreast. 2316 01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:32.359 Yeah, but I'm talking about minute to minute. What do 2317 01:59:32.439 --> 01:59:35.319 you know now exactly? Like maybe filed, maybe fouled right now. 2318 01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:39.920 It's three thirty in the morning, Terry, I'm. 2319 01:59:39.760 --> 01:59:41.760 Gonna tell you something, dude. It's eight am somewhere. 2320 01:59:42.119 --> 01:59:44.000 Yeah, but not where he would file. He lives in Georgia. 2321 01:59:44.079 --> 01:59:47.279 How do you know, dude? Do you know where he's 2322 01:59:47.279 --> 01:59:48.000 out right now? Brother? 2323 01:59:48.479 --> 01:59:49.840 Well, I mean you know, even if he's on the 2324 01:59:49.880 --> 01:59:50.600 West coast, it's like. 2325 01:59:50.680 --> 01:59:52.600 Well, you followed his GPS I put in his car. 2326 01:59:53.159 --> 01:59:54.880 Excuse me, you know, I. 2327 01:59:54.880 --> 01:59:55.560 Don't tell me about that. 2328 01:59:55.600 --> 02:00:02.920 I'd rather not know. That's exculpatory. You're talking about scalp dude. 2329 02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:08.239 Uhers moving, brother, the GPS stunners moving. Dude, when you 2330 02:00:08.279 --> 02:00:10.960 go to the courthouse, he's watching like a DoorDash driver. 2331 02:00:11.119 --> 02:00:15.399 He's watching it move. Look, Stanner's on them. We got 2332 02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:17.600 a fall Steiner. Dude. Look sids on the move, Dude, 2333 02:00:17.600 --> 02:00:21.399 we got every sits on the move. Look, even Bishoff's 2334 02:00:21.399 --> 02:00:23.000 on the move. Due Look, I can see him. He's 2335 02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:25.880 not at his house. And Cody, he's on the road, 2336 02:00:25.960 --> 02:00:28.760 Brother to the grocery store. But Hogan's more they're going 2337 02:00:28.800 --> 02:00:36.600 to a courthouse. The file file what something that has 2338 02:00:36.640 --> 02:00:36.920 nothing to. 2339 02:00:36.920 --> 02:00:37.319 Do with him. 2340 02:00:37.399 --> 02:00:39.439 He's not gonna be like, he's not gonna be the defendant, 2341 02:00:39.520 --> 02:00:43.319 but it has ramifications. Does he want my contract? Dude? 2342 02:00:43.800 --> 02:00:51.359 Did Scott file? Now? Listen, where are we at? Brother? 2343 02:00:56.000 --> 02:00:59.000 The inappropriate reset? I love that, you know, like to 2344 02:00:59.119 --> 02:01:03.199 come back to come back to the north Star out 2345 02:01:03.199 --> 02:01:06.720 of nowhere. Eric gets back from you know, his his 2346 02:01:06.920 --> 02:01:11.359 jaunt into town to pick up pickles and fucking the mail, 2347 02:01:12.079 --> 02:01:13.000 and he comes back in. 2348 02:01:13.079 --> 02:01:16.720 Throws his keys on the door and it's like the 2349 02:01:16.840 --> 02:01:17.439 phone rings. 2350 02:01:17.520 --> 02:01:20.520 Fis shops back brother, you just get back dude, Yeah, 2351 02:01:20.680 --> 02:01:23.399 Terry Is it was more traffic than usual this time 2352 02:01:23.399 --> 02:01:24.159 of year in Cody. 2353 02:01:25.319 --> 02:01:26.800 Why are you driving at six a m. Brother? 2354 02:01:26.920 --> 02:01:28.520 Well, you know it's I want to get the early 2355 02:01:28.600 --> 02:01:29.399 bird special and some. 2356 02:01:29.479 --> 02:01:31.000 Things special for what filing? 2357 02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:32.920 Well, they opened this fish market, it's really great. 2358 02:01:32.920 --> 02:01:36.319 Are you filing complaints in court? Dude? What are you filing? 2359 02:01:36.399 --> 02:01:36.640 Brother? 2360 02:01:38.920 --> 02:01:42.600 Huh? Why are you kidding up so early? Are you 2361 02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:45.880 filing complaints in court? 2362 02:01:46.000 --> 02:01:46.239 Dude? 2363 02:01:47.399 --> 02:01:47.600 Terry? 2364 02:01:47.640 --> 02:01:49.199 The course aren't open at six in the morning. What 2365 02:01:49.520 --> 02:01:53.159 are you talking about? How do you know exactly you 2366 02:01:53.239 --> 02:01:57.159 work for the course. Now, how do you know that exactly? 2367 02:01:57.239 --> 02:01:59.960 That's kind of it's kind of suspicious, brother, that you 2368 02:02:00.279 --> 02:02:03.159 know exactly what time they open, almost like you're waiting 2369 02:02:03.199 --> 02:02:05.920 for them. Are you a clerk now, dude? For the court? 2370 02:02:07.279 --> 02:02:10.840 M I don't hear you Answerry, I don't know. I 2371 02:02:10.880 --> 02:02:13.119 don't have time for this right now. What's I just 2372 02:02:13.199 --> 02:02:15.680 got these fresh eggs? I need to make you got 2373 02:02:15.720 --> 02:02:17.800 fresh eggs, dude? That we call them this thing? Now, brother, 2374 02:02:18.039 --> 02:02:19.560 you kind of call them this thing now? You call 2375 02:02:19.600 --> 02:02:21.840 them me every time you file a lawsuit. Dude, it's 2376 02:02:21.880 --> 02:02:25.159 kind of you're talking about fresh eggs. There's operation fresh eggs, Dude, 2377 02:02:25.840 --> 02:02:30.560 there's this double oh seven's in vall? Brother? What double 2378 02:02:30.560 --> 02:02:36.119 O fresh egg what's the diz? Dude? Exactly? 2379 02:02:36.680 --> 02:02:40.239 I know, and you know something's up. Brother, It's only 2380 02:02:40.279 --> 02:02:42.600 a matter of time before I find out. Might as 2381 02:02:42.640 --> 02:02:43.319 well tell me now. 2382 02:02:47.800 --> 02:02:49.359 I don't have to remind you, brother. I got people 2383 02:02:49.359 --> 02:02:54.720 in Cody, all right. If you filed something, dude, I'm 2384 02:02:54.720 --> 02:02:57.199 gonna know about it. I got my man, I got 2385 02:02:57.239 --> 02:03:00.960 my girl Georgia and Cody Brother up, my dude, Cody 2386 02:03:01.039 --> 02:03:05.439 in Georgia. I want to tell your brother, Cody on 2387 02:03:05.479 --> 02:03:08.560 the roads, dude, right, Cody's on the roads. Brother. 2388 02:03:10.239 --> 02:03:12.159 So so I'll let you get back to your breakfast. Brother, 2389 02:03:12.279 --> 02:03:13.800 say hi to Lourie for me. But let me ask 2390 02:03:13.840 --> 02:03:19.760 you one question, dude, did you file? Are you gonna file? 2391 02:03:20.840 --> 02:03:21.840 But do you plant hot the ball? 2392 02:03:31.920 --> 02:03:35.520 I love I love everything about it. But I love 2393 02:03:35.560 --> 02:03:37.840 how he thinks if he figures out these legal terms 2394 02:03:37.920 --> 02:03:41.119 that it's going to corner the guy like if hesas 2395 02:03:41.159 --> 02:03:43.399 hide the ball, the guy somehow is now like boxed 2396 02:03:43.439 --> 02:03:49.239 in and can't can't lie, can't lie? Now, how do 2397 02:03:49.279 --> 02:03:50.319 you know what time the court opened? 2398 02:03:50.319 --> 02:03:50.720 That's great? 2399 02:03:51.399 --> 02:03:53.439 The court is numbled to nine. Well, yeah, that's why 2400 02:03:53.520 --> 02:03:55.439 I it was a test, brother, to see if you 2401 02:03:55.720 --> 02:03:57.399 knew what time the court's opening. And I think it's 2402 02:03:57.479 --> 02:04:05.279 very interesting that you know, brother, how many loss would 2403 02:04:05.279 --> 02:04:09.560 you get going now, dude? Exactly any amount all covid. 2404 02:04:10.920 --> 02:04:13.680 I mentioned at all? Dude, I mean even by just 2405 02:04:13.760 --> 02:04:17.760 not named dude, by passing enough circumstance, brother, is he 2406 02:04:17.760 --> 02:04:20.560 evident circumstantial? Easy? Or are we talking something more? I mean, 2407 02:04:21.439 --> 02:04:25.640 I mean, what do we what are we filing about? 2408 02:04:27.640 --> 02:04:28.319 What's the file? 2409 02:04:29.960 --> 02:04:31.960 He hasn't done it said, he's not going to do it, 2410 02:04:32.079 --> 02:04:34.720 says there's nothing to file, and he gets to the 2411 02:04:34.840 --> 02:04:36.600 and Terry somehow gets to the point of what's in 2412 02:04:36.640 --> 02:04:39.840 the file, like, what are you going to file? It's like, 2413 02:04:39.920 --> 02:04:41.560 I just told you I'm not going to file anything. 2414 02:04:41.680 --> 02:04:44.159 Did you not hear that? I don't know what you're 2415 02:04:44.159 --> 02:04:47.279 talking about. It I heard, dude, was somebody claiming something 2416 02:04:47.279 --> 02:04:49.000 that isn't true. I heard of someone who knows what 2417 02:04:49.079 --> 02:04:52.079 time the cord's opening and Cody. What I heard is, 2418 02:04:52.239 --> 02:04:54.840 I know a guy who's been driving around Cody Wyoming 2419 02:04:54.920 --> 02:04:58.000 Brother and fucking darkness and saying he knows exactly when 2420 02:04:58.039 --> 02:05:08.479 the courts are opened. Yet he's in the dark. I 2421 02:05:08.640 --> 02:05:13.199 just picture he's had lights bursted through the the pre dawn. 2422 02:05:13.479 --> 02:05:19.079 You know, you know you can you can see you 2423 02:05:19.159 --> 02:05:22.760 can see the lights, you know, from down the hill, 2424 02:05:22.920 --> 02:05:24.079 this conical shape. 2425 02:05:24.199 --> 02:05:24.399 Yeah. 2426 02:05:25.359 --> 02:05:27.960 Oh that's oh my god. It's like the road that 2427 02:05:28.039 --> 02:05:30.239 John Candy and Steve Martin around in Kansas where the 2428 02:05:30.279 --> 02:05:37.159 thing blows up. Why are you driving around the darkness? 2429 02:05:37.720 --> 02:05:40.159 You can only mean one thing. You're gonna drive around 2430 02:05:40.199 --> 02:05:42.640 for three hours so the courthouse open so you can file. 2431 02:05:45.840 --> 02:05:49.560 Oh that's so funny. Oh my god, Oh my god, 2432 02:05:50.720 --> 02:05:56.640 oh the darkness. Drive around, driving around the dark dude 2433 02:05:57.920 --> 02:05:59.199 all hours of the morning. 2434 02:05:59.279 --> 02:05:59.520 Brother. 2435 02:06:00.000 --> 02:06:02.840 Well, that said, let's get to the point of the 2436 02:06:02.880 --> 02:06:04.239 sit complaint of Mentionetogin. 2437 02:06:05.520 --> 02:06:07.760 On once occasion, mister Udy appeared in an event and 2438 02:06:07.800 --> 02:06:10.439 the agents demanded that mister Yudi fall through a table 2439 02:06:10.560 --> 02:06:16.479 and loose the match. Read that again, please. On once occasion, 2440 02:06:18.039 --> 02:06:21.479 when mister Yudy appeared in an event, the agents demanded 2441 02:06:21.520 --> 02:06:24.560 that mister Yudi fall to a table and lose the match. 2442 02:06:24.880 --> 02:06:28.760 This is okay, so he's referencing. You know, the Brusso 2443 02:06:28.840 --> 02:06:30.920 Bischoff era is short lived. As it was, there were 2444 02:06:30.920 --> 02:06:33.000 a lot of people going through tables for no reason. Man, 2445 02:06:33.039 --> 02:06:34.720 they were doing shit every ten seconds. 2446 02:06:34.760 --> 02:06:35.359 That was wild. 2447 02:06:36.000 --> 02:06:38.279 So apparently at a time that he had told both 2448 02:06:38.319 --> 02:06:40.399 of them, they had told him that he would have 2449 02:06:40.439 --> 02:06:43.119 to perform any physical acts because of his injuries. They 2450 02:06:43.199 --> 02:06:46.520 insisted he make appearances, even though Sid claims he should 2451 02:06:46.560 --> 02:06:49.039 have been a healing at the time. And he shows 2452 02:06:49.119 --> 02:06:50.880 up on one occasion and they asked him to go. 2453 02:06:50.920 --> 02:06:51.399 Through a table. 2454 02:06:52.960 --> 02:06:53.479 That's wild. 2455 02:06:53.760 --> 02:06:54.680 Do you remember that at all? 2456 02:06:54.920 --> 02:06:58.640 Well, he wrestled Sting on that April tenth nitro and 2457 02:06:58.720 --> 02:06:59.840 then that was it. And I don't think he went 2458 02:06:59.840 --> 02:07:02.359 through table in that match. Maybe he did, maybe he 2459 02:07:02.439 --> 02:07:04.239 did put maybe someone did run out and put him 2460 02:07:04.239 --> 02:07:06.000 through the table to explain his absence, not that I 2461 02:07:06.039 --> 02:07:08.239 think about it, but whatever. 2462 02:07:08.199 --> 02:07:13.199 Fucking weird, mister Bischoff. Mister Russo promised that if mister 2463 02:07:13.319 --> 02:07:16.680 Yudi did this for both the live shows, both live shows, 2464 02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:18.920 that he would not have to perform for the next 2465 02:07:18.960 --> 02:07:21.319 pay perview, but he would receive his full pay fifty 2466 02:07:21.359 --> 02:07:23.319 thousand dollars for that pay per view. 2467 02:07:24.399 --> 02:07:27.000 Agree, you'll pay the guy to not work the pay 2468 02:07:27.039 --> 02:07:29.479 per view if he'll just you know, do something at 2469 02:07:29.479 --> 02:07:32.439 a nitro Like what kind of you got to negotiate that? 2470 02:07:32.760 --> 02:07:35.479 That's like chicken shit, you know, that's WCW to me, right, 2471 02:07:35.520 --> 02:07:38.119 exactly every little thing you have to do, like has 2472 02:07:38.199 --> 02:07:40.640 four or five contractual ramifications. 2473 02:07:40.039 --> 02:07:44.880 Oh, mister Bischoff. Mister Russo promised that mister Uti would 2474 02:07:44.920 --> 02:07:47.760 be giving time to heal and a complete physical therapy. 2475 02:07:48.720 --> 02:07:52.319 Mister Yuti reluctantly agreed, especially since he was he's going 2476 02:07:52.399 --> 02:07:55.119 to finally get time to heal and recuperate from his 2477 02:07:55.239 --> 02:07:58.079 injuries and curred for the benefit of defendants. 2478 02:07:58.600 --> 02:08:02.359 They were incurred for the benefit of the plaintiff by 2479 02:08:02.399 --> 02:08:05.479 the way they were. They were incurred in. 2480 02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:09.479 The listen, my injuries were incurred and they benefited you 2481 02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:12.159 and your benefit. 2482 02:08:13.359 --> 02:08:15.159 O me, even though I got paid, that's fine. 2483 02:08:16.720 --> 02:08:20.439 Instead of abiden by agreement, defendant's cut mister Yu's paying 2484 02:08:20.520 --> 02:08:24.079 half while he was undergoing physical theory. Oh you don't 2485 02:08:24.119 --> 02:08:24.319 do that. 2486 02:08:25.359 --> 02:08:28.079 Don't bring that Brad Siegel cost cutting to Sid's contract. 2487 02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:31.119 No thanks, cut his pay in half while they sent 2488 02:08:31.239 --> 02:08:34.279 him home, telling him he'd be if he'd be taken 2489 02:08:34.319 --> 02:08:40.000 care of, Brad. Brad, Come on, folks, Diana Myers can 2490 02:08:40.039 --> 02:08:41.880 write you a letter, but that doesn't mean it's it's 2491 02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:42.840 gonna hold up. 2492 02:08:44.199 --> 02:08:47.520 Mister U was constantly required to make promotional appearances, even 2493 02:08:47.600 --> 02:08:50.880 though he was termed disabled and receiving one half his pay. 2494 02:08:51.880 --> 02:08:55.760 These appearances included a ten day appearance in Australia and 2495 02:08:55.880 --> 02:08:59.000 Los Angeles, California, from which he was hospitalized upon his 2496 02:08:59.079 --> 02:09:02.840 return home. Now, La, would that be the premiere of 2497 02:09:02.960 --> 02:09:04.960 fucking Ready to Run? I bet it would be. Didn't 2498 02:09:04.960 --> 02:09:08.319 he have some like minor me? He wrestles in You 2499 02:09:08.399 --> 02:09:11.279 know that's got to be it just a big thing. 2500 02:09:12.319 --> 02:09:15.399 Mister Udy was even forced to do live television performances 2501 02:09:15.640 --> 02:09:18.800 when he had been promised that there would be nothing physical, 2502 02:09:18.920 --> 02:09:23.840 merely merely an appearance each time the quote booker whose 2503 02:09:23.880 --> 02:09:27.800 employee of or Asian Defendants had a physical incident occur. 2504 02:09:28.800 --> 02:09:32.239 These physical incidents prolonged mister Udie's recovery from his injuries. 2505 02:09:32.600 --> 02:09:36.359 Defendants employees and agents told mister Udi that his appearances 2506 02:09:36.640 --> 02:09:39.720 were necessary for the survival of the company whose ratings 2507 02:09:39.760 --> 02:09:46.479 were low. In December two thousand, Defendants promised mister Udy 2508 02:09:46.760 --> 02:09:50.279 that he would be the main event on pay per view, 2509 02:09:50.479 --> 02:09:52.439 the entire storyline built around him. 2510 02:09:52.479 --> 02:09:54.279 Of course, Starcating and Scott Steiner. 2511 02:09:54.359 --> 02:09:58.279 Yeah, mister Terry Taylor, who's employed by or and Or 2512 02:09:58.439 --> 02:10:00.880 worked for Defendants as an agent. He told mister Udi 2513 02:10:01.199 --> 02:10:06.079 to get an early release from anyone to do his 2514 02:10:06.159 --> 02:10:09.680 pay per view. Mister Taylor and others who were employed 2515 02:10:09.880 --> 02:10:13.720 or buy or acting on behalf def informasiter uti at 2516 02:10:13.760 --> 02:10:16.159 the company was depending on him to performed his pay 2517 02:10:16.199 --> 02:10:19.960 per views to raise ratings. Let we go again, because 2518 02:10:19.960 --> 02:10:22.920 this is a great track record to this point, right right, 2519 02:10:23.800 --> 02:10:26.640 Mister Yu discussed his problems fifty thousand dollars for the 2520 02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:30.680 earlier pay per view with Miss Diana Myers, an employee 2521 02:10:30.840 --> 02:10:34.279 of Defense. Miss Myers promised that if mister uti was 2522 02:10:34.359 --> 02:10:38.319 released to work, he'd received his full compensation, including fifty 2523 02:10:38.399 --> 02:10:42.760 thousand dollars. On December first, two thousand, mister Utie's physician 2524 02:10:43.079 --> 02:10:47.760 released him to work. On December fifty, two thousand, Ms 2525 02:10:47.960 --> 02:10:51.439 Myers's counsel for ww a division of Turner Sports and 2526 02:10:51.479 --> 02:10:57.359 a Time Warner company, restored mister Utie's compensation by written correspondence. However, 2527 02:10:57.479 --> 02:11:00.359 that promise fifty thousand dollars was still not paid. 2528 02:11:00.520 --> 02:11:02.560 Another Russo promise in one ear out the other. 2529 02:11:06.159 --> 02:11:08.880 That's crazy. I mean, yeah, well that's a that's a 2530 02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:16.119 that's a that's a kind of a massive financial commitment 2531 02:11:16.199 --> 02:11:16.920 that they're not paying. 2532 02:11:17.159 --> 02:11:20.760 We'll pay you, yeah, we'll pay you what you would 2533 02:11:21.319 --> 02:11:23.000 what you'd make if you work the pay per view, 2534 02:11:23.239 --> 02:11:25.960 even though you won't as compensation to get you to 2535 02:11:26.039 --> 02:11:28.319 agree to do this table spot or whatever we need 2536 02:11:28.399 --> 02:11:30.920 to do to get you written out, and then we'll 2537 02:11:30.960 --> 02:11:32.760 send you home. And not only will we not pay 2538 02:11:32.800 --> 02:11:34.760 you the fifty grand, we'll cut your pan half as well. 2539 02:11:35.560 --> 02:11:40.199 Right, mister Johnny Ace was a booker for defendants. He 2540 02:11:40.359 --> 02:11:46.479 was employed by one or all of defendants? Okay, how 2541 02:11:46.560 --> 02:11:48.720 was he employed by one defendant or all? 2542 02:11:49.279 --> 02:11:54.279 Well, there's more than just UWC. That's that's sued here. 2543 02:11:54.319 --> 02:11:57.800 It's also him, which would be weird. Yeah, and then 2544 02:11:57.840 --> 02:12:00.760 the X Y Z factor we talked about, or here 2545 02:12:00.840 --> 02:12:01.000 we go. 2546 02:12:01.600 --> 02:12:07.399 Mister Ace, oh my God, constantly insisted that mister Yudi 2547 02:12:07.520 --> 02:12:13.079 leaped from the top ropes of the ring and the 2548 02:12:13.199 --> 02:12:17.600 land of his opponents. Mister Yudy refused to perform this move, 2549 02:12:17.680 --> 02:12:24.079 stating that he had ring rust e g was not 2550 02:12:24.239 --> 02:12:27.039 yet accustomed to being back in the wrestling ring, and 2551 02:12:27.159 --> 02:12:29.199 that he did not think that a man of his 2552 02:12:29.319 --> 02:12:33.800 size should perform such a stunt. Mister Ace continued to insist, 2553 02:12:34.119 --> 02:12:37.039 even though mister Udy had not completely healed from his 2554 02:12:37.159 --> 02:12:40.000 prior injury and was forced to get an early release 2555 02:12:40.039 --> 02:12:44.520 from the hospital. Mister Udy did not agree jumping from 2556 02:12:44.560 --> 02:12:48.000 the ropes surrounding the ring was particularly safe in light 2557 02:12:48.039 --> 02:12:50.840 of his size six feet nine inches and weight two 2558 02:12:50.960 --> 02:12:55.840 hundred and ninety five pounds. On January fourteenth, two thousand 2559 02:12:55.840 --> 02:12:57.560 and one, mister Uti was to perform at a pay 2560 02:12:57.600 --> 02:13:05.520 per view in Indianapolis, mister Race. Mister Race handed mister 2561 02:13:05.680 --> 02:13:09.920 Udias script. Well, there it is, get giving away the 2562 02:13:09.960 --> 02:13:14.560 whole business. This script finished with mister Udy leaping from 2563 02:13:14.600 --> 02:13:19.319 the top ropes onto his opponent. Mister Udi tried to 2564 02:13:19.399 --> 02:13:22.319 refuse to perform this move. Mister Race and others who 2565 02:13:22.359 --> 02:13:26.000 are employees and agents and defendants instance that mister Uti 2566 02:13:26.119 --> 02:13:30.279 performed this move, citing his contract and his duty to 2567 02:13:30.359 --> 02:13:36.560 help the company which needed better ratings. Mister Uedi reluctantly 2568 02:13:36.600 --> 02:13:39.359 performed the move and suffered a double compound fracture of 2569 02:13:39.439 --> 02:13:43.760 his left leg. Mister Udy's leg bones protruded through the 2570 02:13:43.840 --> 02:13:52.119 skill and his boots. On nationally broadcast television, mister mister 2571 02:13:52.279 --> 02:13:56.239 Udy was a horrific agony, lying on his back on 2572 02:13:56.359 --> 02:14:03.359 the stage. The stage, the stage, okay, because we're circus 2573 02:14:03.399 --> 02:14:04.880 animals performing an act. 2574 02:14:05.560 --> 02:14:06.920 That wasn't in the complaint by the one. 2575 02:14:10.600 --> 02:14:15.199 Mister Udi was immediately transported Methodist Hospital for emergency surgery. 2576 02:14:16.199 --> 02:14:18.720 Mister Ace came to the hospital to visit mister Udi 2577 02:14:19.000 --> 02:14:21.680 and apologize, repeatedly stating that he was sorry that he 2578 02:14:21.760 --> 02:14:25.479 forced mister Usi to performed the move while mister Uti 2579 02:14:25.640 --> 02:14:28.880 was recovering in the hospital. Defense broadcast of the incident 2580 02:14:28.960 --> 02:14:30.439 repeatedly on the live show. 2581 02:14:31.279 --> 02:14:33.600 And this is where the replay that we started this 2582 02:14:33.680 --> 02:14:36.159 show talking about becomes an issue in a court of law. 2583 02:14:37.079 --> 02:14:41.479 Yep, Defenders were taking advantage of mister Utie's horrific injury 2584 02:14:41.560 --> 02:14:46.319 to gain ratings. Defendants succeeded and received high ratings for 2585 02:14:46.399 --> 02:14:48.760 the live show. Okay, let's dile it into that one, 2586 02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:52.119 go ahead. These ratings translated into higher earnings for defendants 2587 02:14:52.159 --> 02:14:56.279 for these lives, for these shows. Oh they didn't, Oh 2588 02:14:56.319 --> 02:14:58.920 they did. They got higher earnings, high ratings. And I 2589 02:14:59.000 --> 02:15:01.760 didn't get ship high. 2590 02:15:01.640 --> 02:15:07.039 Earnings, higher earnings. 2591 02:15:07.119 --> 02:15:11.560 You hear that, judge, Listen, I heard it. I heard. 2592 02:15:11.920 --> 02:15:17.199 I'm mister Udi. I am all for you getting hired. Earnings? 2593 02:15:19.359 --> 02:15:19.800 What it is? 2594 02:15:19.920 --> 02:15:23.920 Hired? He's get hired? He earned they all right? Did 2595 02:15:23.960 --> 02:15:24.359 he earn? 2596 02:15:24.560 --> 02:15:24.800 Did he? 2597 02:15:25.279 --> 02:15:28.159 Listen? Did he get earnings? For breaking his leg? On 2598 02:15:28.319 --> 02:15:30.720 national television and asked the question, counselor did did did 2599 02:15:30.800 --> 02:15:32.920 he get earnings? Did did he earn it? 2600 02:15:33.000 --> 02:15:34.159 Did you earn as a result of this? 2601 02:15:34.239 --> 02:15:37.439 Did he get earned? Did he earn? Anybody doesn't that 2602 02:15:37.560 --> 02:15:39.399 to take a carry? And everybody know if he earned 2603 02:15:39.640 --> 02:15:42.239 not take a car or something like that. Now didn't 2604 02:15:42.239 --> 02:15:44.239 that undertaker guy? Didn't he carry and earn? Is that 2605 02:15:44.279 --> 02:15:47.239 what you're talking about? Earnings? 2606 02:15:48.760 --> 02:15:48.920 Right? 2607 02:15:49.399 --> 02:15:53.399 Earnings then earned with dings in it? 2608 02:15:53.680 --> 02:15:53.800 Right? 2609 02:15:54.399 --> 02:16:00.560 Ring dings? What is the following? In defendis brought Inductory Andrews, 2610 02:16:00.840 --> 02:16:03.479 one of mister Judy's physicians to appear in w W 2611 02:16:04.000 --> 02:16:07.079 even though mister Judy never saw doctor's respect to his 2612 02:16:07.199 --> 02:16:12.720 leg injury. Say that again, even though mister Yudie never 2613 02:16:12.800 --> 02:16:17.319 saw doctor and Andrews with respect to his leg injury. Okay, so, 2614 02:16:17.520 --> 02:16:23.439 but was MISTERI was doctor Andrews a fucking just regular physician, 2615 02:16:23.560 --> 02:16:25.840 Like why would he see him? Isn't he a surgeon? 2616 02:16:26.079 --> 02:16:28.239 He's a surgeon, Yeah, but he might. I'm obviously he's 2617 02:16:28.239 --> 02:16:29.319 gonna need surgery. 2618 02:16:29.039 --> 02:16:33.040 So right, but but he but he never saw doctor 2619 02:16:33.079 --> 02:16:34.440 Andaws with respect to his leg injury. 2620 02:16:38.360 --> 02:16:40.840 Yeah, so right, So they're putting. So they're putting. So 2621 02:16:41.040 --> 02:16:43.959 doctor Andrews on television to talk about an injury like. 2622 02:16:44.040 --> 02:16:47.680 This, But why is he? I mean, it just seems 2623 02:16:47.719 --> 02:16:51.360 weird to like that he's a regular physician he's one 2624 02:16:51.399 --> 02:16:56.840 of mister Udy's physicians. That seems weird to me, Like, like, 2625 02:16:57.120 --> 02:16:59.559 what what else would he do besides performed surgery on you. 2626 02:17:00.479 --> 02:17:00.760 I don't know. 2627 02:17:00.879 --> 02:17:02.520 Maybe he can consult you about surgery. 2628 02:17:02.600 --> 02:17:05.280 Yeah, well, maybe he consulted sit on another surgery. 2629 02:17:05.879 --> 02:17:08.440 I guess. But again, I wouldn't. I would not consider 2630 02:17:08.520 --> 02:17:13.920 a surgeon who I only talked to on for specific 2631 02:17:14.079 --> 02:17:16.799 reasons my physician would be considered one of my physicians. 2632 02:17:17.479 --> 02:17:20.680 That's a good point, YEP, that seems weird to me, Like, 2633 02:17:20.920 --> 02:17:22.840 I mean, because I mean, I wouldn't consider him to 2634 02:17:22.840 --> 02:17:25.319 be a physician. I mean, I know, maybe that's maybe 2635 02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:30.360 that's a much broader term that incorporates surgeons as well. Yeah, 2636 02:17:30.399 --> 02:17:32.280 but like I don't think of a physician as being 2637 02:17:33.120 --> 02:17:34.120 as being a surgeon. 2638 02:17:34.639 --> 02:17:36.840 I get your point. I wonder if that's a confusion 2639 02:17:36.840 --> 02:17:39.200 of terms. I just think it's fascinating that he's making 2640 02:17:39.719 --> 02:17:41.239 such a big deal out of the fact that they 2641 02:17:41.319 --> 02:17:44.319 replayed this on Nitro and made a segment out of 2642 02:17:44.360 --> 02:17:46.280 it and had doctor James Andrews way. And that's like 2643 02:17:46.520 --> 02:17:49.280 wrestling one oh one when a guy gets injured because you. 2644 02:17:49.280 --> 02:17:52.000 Know why, because he technically made an appearance on the 2645 02:17:52.040 --> 02:17:54.040 show and they're not fucking trank. 2646 02:17:55.120 --> 02:17:57.680 Well, he's definitely that's why he's definitely needing to prove 2647 02:17:57.760 --> 02:18:00.760 it's becoming clear already. He's definitely needing to prove that 2648 02:18:01.360 --> 02:18:04.440 WCW made more money than they shared with him off 2649 02:18:04.479 --> 02:18:08.680 of his injury, like right, right exactly, They found ways 2650 02:18:08.760 --> 02:18:12.840 to enhance their show with his misfortune and then still 2651 02:18:12.879 --> 02:18:13.920 cut his pay in half. 2652 02:18:13.959 --> 02:18:20.360 You know, uh as defendants had agreed had doctor Andrews 2653 02:18:20.440 --> 02:18:23.520 describe the injury in graphic detail, show X rays and 2654 02:18:23.600 --> 02:18:26.840 explain the surgery and recovery. And once again, defendants were 2655 02:18:26.879 --> 02:18:30.319 trying to increase their ratings by taking advantage of mister 2656 02:18:30.440 --> 02:18:37.600 Utie's injury and misery us after the injury, defends wrongfully 2657 02:18:38.440 --> 02:18:41.239 cut mister Utie's pay in half again while he was 2658 02:18:41.280 --> 02:18:44.440 recovering from his injuries sustained because of the insistence of 2659 02:18:44.520 --> 02:18:48.159 one of its employees, Defendants cut mister Yu's pay even 2660 02:18:48.239 --> 02:18:51.120 though they were they were profiting from the horrible injury 2661 02:18:51.200 --> 02:18:54.440 that mister Uti suffered on their behalf and at their insistence. 2662 02:18:56.200 --> 02:18:59.280 On February nineteen, two thousand and one, mister Huty received 2663 02:18:59.280 --> 02:19:03.319 a letter from you Benefit Consultants. This company allegedly provided 2664 02:19:03.360 --> 02:19:07.440 disability payments with mister Uti. However, upon information belief this 2665 02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:10.799 company had an insurance policy which listed defendants as the 2666 02:19:10.879 --> 02:19:14.559 beneficiary in the event, and that mister Uti was injured, 2667 02:19:15.239 --> 02:19:18.559 the benefit was the full value mister Utie's contract. Mister 2668 02:19:18.639 --> 02:19:21.559 EU completed the disability forms and sent them to US 2669 02:19:21.639 --> 02:19:25.120 Benefit Consultants. Mister Udi did not receive payment from US 2670 02:19:25.200 --> 02:19:28.159 Benefit Consultants or the insurance so he got no payment 2671 02:19:28.239 --> 02:19:30.040 from the benefit consultant. That's interesting. 2672 02:19:30.079 --> 02:19:32.879 Wow, And he's saying the so WCW basically got an 2673 02:19:32.920 --> 02:19:34.680 insurance payment in the amount of what they would have 2674 02:19:34.719 --> 02:19:37.159 paid SID in the contract if he was working the 2675 02:19:37.200 --> 02:19:39.159 whole time, right, So they're made whole for the fact 2676 02:19:39.159 --> 02:19:41.760 they can't use SID. So that's a hell of a 2677 02:19:41.799 --> 02:19:44.000 thing to hang your hat on. Like, you guys already 2678 02:19:44.079 --> 02:19:46.520 made back all the money you would have lost if 2679 02:19:46.559 --> 02:19:49.280 I was working for you, right, So what the fuck? 2680 02:19:50.440 --> 02:19:54.639 Right On Marsh one nine, two thousand and one, MS 2681 02:19:54.799 --> 02:19:58.360 Myers ww A division and Turner Entertainment and Tom Warner 2682 02:19:58.440 --> 02:20:04.040 Company terminated mister u contract. This termination was improper and 2683 02:20:04.159 --> 02:20:08.120 embrace the agreement. MS Myers indicated over telephone and in 2684 02:20:08.200 --> 02:20:10.520 her letter that mister Uti should contact the company that 2685 02:20:10.600 --> 02:20:17.440 purchases WW to get another contract. Defense had terminated mister 2686 02:20:17.559 --> 02:20:19.600 Uti because of the injury that they calls. 2687 02:20:20.559 --> 02:20:23.520 This is around the same time, folks from our last 2688 02:20:23.600 --> 02:20:27.639 Nitro coverage, Folks our Greed coverage, pardon me our Greed coverage. 2689 02:20:27.680 --> 02:20:29.879 More particularly and the bachel of the Beach coverage will 2690 02:20:29.879 --> 02:20:33.120 recall that Myers is also hard at work, along with 2691 02:20:33.200 --> 02:20:37.760 Brad Siegel, trying to you know, withhold guaranteed pay per 2692 02:20:37.799 --> 02:20:40.360 view payments from hul Cogan in these daring days by 2693 02:20:40.840 --> 02:20:43.719 inviting him to appear at Greed knowing he wouldn't, so 2694 02:20:43.840 --> 02:20:46.520 that they could cite that as basically, you know, a 2695 02:20:46.600 --> 02:20:49.879 breach of the contract that means they don't have to 2696 02:20:49.920 --> 02:20:53.360 pay him those those pay per view sums whether or 2697 02:20:53.399 --> 02:20:56.000 not he appears. So they're playing all kinds of games 2698 02:20:56.040 --> 02:20:57.479 in the winding feature. 2699 02:20:57.680 --> 02:21:00.520 Of feature player. Bro, No, no question, dude, I'm not 2700 02:21:00.600 --> 02:21:03.399 in my featured master to you. I can turn this 2701 02:21:03.559 --> 02:21:05.719 down and you still got paid, brother. 2702 02:21:05.719 --> 02:21:08.360 Zactly you know, cash those checks, dude, Given though the 2703 02:21:08.399 --> 02:21:10.600 contract isn't valid, as I argue in my lawsuit, I'm 2704 02:21:10.600 --> 02:21:12.959 going to cash the checks. Brother, there should have been more. 2705 02:21:13.360 --> 02:21:15.360 I listened to it. I get your money comes in, brother, 2706 02:21:15.680 --> 02:21:17.079 I cast those checks. Dude, I don't know what you 2707 02:21:17.079 --> 02:21:18.000 want from those checks. 2708 02:21:18.000 --> 02:21:19.760 And then claim after the fact that I'm not a 2709 02:21:19.920 --> 02:21:20.479 title to him. 2710 02:21:20.520 --> 02:21:23.239 Brother, cut checks, cash checks? Dude? What's going on that? 2711 02:21:23.360 --> 02:21:23.799 His hustle? 2712 02:21:23.920 --> 02:21:29.280 Brother? I mean, look, life's a game, dude. You know 2713 02:21:29.360 --> 02:21:34.799 we're talking about playing the gizzam Dude. What's it is? Exactly? 2714 02:21:36.440 --> 02:21:39.639 Mister Yedy is currently not employed as a professional wrestler. 2715 02:21:40.760 --> 02:21:44.680 Mister ud has gone through extensive rehabilitation. The recovery process 2716 02:21:44.719 --> 02:21:50.520 has been long and extremely painful. How about that? Major 2717 02:21:50.680 --> 02:21:51.719 changes at WCW. 2718 02:21:51.920 --> 02:21:54.120 Think about this, okay, think about the state of affairs 2719 02:21:54.440 --> 02:21:56.639 irrespective of the fact that WW moved in and bought 2720 02:21:56.680 --> 02:21:59.719 the company SID on January fourteenth of twenty oh one. 2721 02:21:59.799 --> 02:22:03.120 So firstkn the injury we just saw yep, March. First, 2722 02:22:03.719 --> 02:22:04.920 they terminate his contract. 2723 02:22:06.079 --> 02:22:13.680 What's the problem. Huh, what's the problem? Don't say the's 2724 02:22:13.680 --> 02:22:16.879 a problem. I'm just staying in facts. It's normal procedure. 2725 02:22:16.920 --> 02:22:20.840 You know, you know, he's not he's not coming to 2726 02:22:20.879 --> 02:22:23.200 work for I'm not able to perform right, very simple. 2727 02:22:24.959 --> 02:22:27.000 You know, if you just if you just fucking know, 2728 02:22:27.120 --> 02:22:30.479 showed at your office for two months, you'd be fucking fine. 2729 02:22:31.159 --> 02:22:34.920 Is real simple? And I see what you do understand 2730 02:22:35.000 --> 02:22:36.239 is what is real simple? 2731 02:22:36.760 --> 02:22:37.799 You don't know what simple is. 2732 02:22:39.120 --> 02:22:43.440 You don't even understand what simple is. You don't even 2733 02:22:43.479 --> 02:22:44.959 understand how stupid I am? 2734 02:22:46.879 --> 02:22:50.639 All right, stop quoting from the promo and the outsiders. 2735 02:22:53.159 --> 02:22:55.879 All mister d has remained ready to perform one of 2736 02:22:55.920 --> 02:23:00.159 the agreement is requested. W W went through Signify you 2737 02:23:00.200 --> 02:23:02.399 Can changes during the early part of the year two thousand. 2738 02:23:03.200 --> 02:23:07.280 WW change it's man operating management on at least two occasions. 2739 02:23:07.319 --> 02:23:11.319 In two thousand, there were numerous press reports a ww's 2740 02:23:11.360 --> 02:23:15.520 parent corporation, Time Warner Incorporated, embarked on a program of 2741 02:23:15.680 --> 02:23:22.079 reducing or eliminating wsw's contractual obligations as a prelude to 2742 02:23:22.159 --> 02:23:28.079 Time Warner's merger with America Online Incorporated. Burners Wrestling tenure 2743 02:23:28.120 --> 02:23:31.600 with defendants. Mister Udi received paychecks issued by defendant Turner 2744 02:23:31.639 --> 02:23:37.680 Sports Incorporated that showed WSW as an affiliated entity. Mister 2745 02:23:37.840 --> 02:23:42.559 Udi received correspondence from WW on stationary letterhead which specifically 2746 02:23:42.600 --> 02:23:45.879 represented the WW as a division of Turner Sports staying 2747 02:23:46.000 --> 02:23:52.639 World Championship Wrestling a division of Turner Sports. Defendant Turner 2748 02:23:52.680 --> 02:23:56.959 Sports Incorporated, and WSW share the same business address, one 2749 02:23:57.079 --> 02:23:58.879 CNN Center, Atlanta, Georgia. 2750 02:23:58.879 --> 02:23:59.559 Okay, we get it. 2751 02:23:59.680 --> 02:24:06.639 Said defendants Turner Sports and Turner Entertainment Group Incorporated dominated 2752 02:24:06.680 --> 02:24:10.799 and controlled the business activities at w CW. Dominated. 2753 02:24:10.959 --> 02:24:13.399 Yeah, I wonder if everyone would agree with that characterization. 2754 02:24:15.799 --> 02:24:19.319 Defense Turner Sports Incorporated and Turner Entertainment Group Incorporated, as 2755 02:24:19.360 --> 02:24:22.399 executives managed and operated the business and w CW and 2756 02:24:22.440 --> 02:24:28.159 paid wrestler salaries. Defending Turner Sports Incorporated and defendant Turner 2757 02:24:28.200 --> 02:24:31.799 Sports Entertainment. So now there's Turner Sports Entertainment Group. Yeah, 2758 02:24:31.840 --> 02:24:34.239 look at that. That's a new one. That's a fucking 2759 02:24:34.760 --> 02:24:43.120 just w that's hilarious. So I thought I was Turner Wrestling, Right, 2760 02:24:43.360 --> 02:24:47.159 you wrest youre in the wrestling business. Now you're an 2761 02:24:47.399 --> 02:24:54.559 entertainment business. You gotta make up your mind. Theodore. That's 2762 02:24:54.559 --> 02:25:05.399 a shot, Theodore Turner, THEO. Right, every gonna call you Theopal. Well, 2763 02:25:05.440 --> 02:25:06.079 I just did. 2764 02:25:08.399 --> 02:25:09.280 I think it'll stick? 2765 02:25:13.120 --> 02:25:16.760 TURNI Sports Entertainment Group Incorporated had their employees direct the 2766 02:25:16.879 --> 02:25:21.520 activities of WW have their employees direct to the activities 2767 02:25:21.639 --> 02:25:26.799 of WSW. Ww's division Turner Sports and a Turner Entertainment 2768 02:25:26.879 --> 02:25:30.959 acted as defendant. Turner Sports Incorporated and Turner Entertainment Group 2769 02:25:31.000 --> 02:25:34.799 Incorporators agent in connection with the operation of the business. 2770 02:25:35.680 --> 02:25:38.879 As such, defendise, Turner Sports Incorporated and Turner Entertainment Group 2771 02:25:39.280 --> 02:25:46.000 are vicariously liable for the connacht WSW defense. Turner Sports 2772 02:25:46.040 --> 02:25:50.399 Incorporated Turner Entertainment Group Incorporated in WSW acted as joint 2773 02:25:50.520 --> 02:25:53.600 ventures in the business operation of w CW as a 2774 02:25:53.600 --> 02:26:00.040 wrestling enterprise. WW was the altar group alter ego of 2775 02:26:00.159 --> 02:26:04.360 definis Turner Sports Incorporated and Turner Entertainment CREEP Incorporated. Definished 2776 02:26:04.360 --> 02:26:09.479 Turner Sports Incorporated and Turningtainment were have commingled, co mingled 2777 02:26:09.520 --> 02:26:13.280 their assets with those WSW, have controlled the business WSW 2778 02:26:13.520 --> 02:26:16.799 advance and further their own business purposes, and have abused 2779 02:26:17.280 --> 02:26:20.239 and disregard to the corporate form and therefore the corporate 2780 02:26:20.360 --> 02:26:21.559 veil should be pierced. 2781 02:26:21.680 --> 02:26:26.399 Yes, in other words, and they're trying to go after 2782 02:26:26.520 --> 02:26:29.559 Turner instead of WCW. They're trying to you know what 2783 02:26:29.639 --> 02:26:33.920 I mean, claim make a claim against Turner and get 2784 02:26:34.000 --> 02:26:36.040 that money. Instead of w W which is now out 2785 02:26:36.040 --> 02:26:37.920 of business. So they're going out of their way to 2786 02:26:38.040 --> 02:26:40.879 like say, there's there's no difference. So you can't just 2787 02:26:40.959 --> 02:26:43.040 like isolate over here and say, well, WW has no 2788 02:26:43.079 --> 02:26:46.319 money to pay you a settlement, you know, but if 2789 02:26:46.360 --> 02:26:48.239 you make it about Turner, then you get accessed all 2790 02:26:48.239 --> 02:26:50.079 that money, right settlement. 2791 02:26:50.799 --> 02:26:52.760 Well, I thought I thought too that it was the 2792 02:26:52.840 --> 02:26:54.719 Turner was paying the money anyway, not WW. 2793 02:26:56.319 --> 02:26:58.600 Well when WW was running, yes, but thus I forget 2794 02:26:58.639 --> 02:27:00.799 this is filed two years after WW he closes. So 2795 02:27:01.159 --> 02:27:04.479 there's this uwc nity that I'm sure Turner slash AOL 2796 02:27:04.680 --> 02:27:06.840 would be very eager to argue, are the only books 2797 02:27:06.879 --> 02:27:09.360 that you can go after to settle a lawsuit? And 2798 02:27:09.479 --> 02:27:13.600 he's like, no, sir, that's my guess as to why 2799 02:27:13.639 --> 02:27:17.680 he's going through such painstaking stipulation of facts connecting Turner 2800 02:27:17.719 --> 02:27:19.879 to w like there's any controversy about that at all. 2801 02:27:20.680 --> 02:27:28.840 Right, Recently, defendant Turner Entertainment, Greeve and or AOW AOL 2802 02:27:29.000 --> 02:27:33.440 Time Warner sold WSW World Wrestling Entertainment. In this transaction, 2803 02:27:33.639 --> 02:27:37.040 certain assets were sold WWE, including but not limited to, 2804 02:27:37.079 --> 02:27:40.159 the right to use the name WW. However, the contracts 2805 02:27:40.239 --> 02:27:44.239 certain wrestlers were not similarly transferred. W uses the name 2806 02:27:44.399 --> 02:27:49.920 w CW, but not its employees, equipment, etc. WCW does 2807 02:27:50.000 --> 02:27:52.159 not perform shows, but it has changed his name to 2808 02:27:52.239 --> 02:27:58.000 leave Universal Wrestling Company, Incorporated, Georgia Corporation. Upon information, believe 2809 02:27:58.079 --> 02:28:02.360 this corporation merely exists for the benefit of the remaining liabilities. WW. 2810 02:28:06.639 --> 02:28:09.479 We're fourteen pages in count one right. 2811 02:28:09.399 --> 02:28:11.840 Now, it's gonna start talking about what they did wrong. 2812 02:28:13.559 --> 02:28:17.040 Mister Udy adopts re alleges and incorporates hearing and above 2813 02:28:17.120 --> 02:28:21.000 by reference all allegations containing paragraphs one through sixty six 2814 02:28:21.040 --> 02:28:24.520 and the amending complaint fully and completely as if set 2815 02:28:24.600 --> 02:28:30.399 forth here in. Mister Uti had entered into various oral, written, express, 2816 02:28:30.639 --> 02:28:34.000 and implied agreements with defendants, including but not limited to 2817 02:28:34.239 --> 02:28:36.799 oral promise to pay mister Udy for a pay per 2818 02:28:36.879 --> 02:28:39.600 view event in April two thousand and the agreement. 2819 02:28:39.319 --> 02:28:42.319 One of those oral promises from the Russo Bischoff regime. 2820 02:28:42.520 --> 02:28:45.959 YEP, Defense breached the terms of the agreement by, among 2821 02:28:46.200 --> 02:28:50.120 other things, improperly reducing mister UTI's pay, failing to pay 2822 02:28:50.200 --> 02:28:53.120 mister Judy, reducing mister Uty's pay when he was still 2823 02:28:53.159 --> 02:28:59.600 performing for defendance benefit and terminated his agreement. Mister Uy's 2824 02:28:59.600 --> 02:29:02.799 contract provided that wrestler should be paid for a minimum 2825 02:29:02.920 --> 02:29:08.479 eight pay perview events per contractual year. This guaranteed compensation 2826 02:29:08.680 --> 02:29:12.719 is in addition to mister Hudy's regular salary. Mister Uty 2827 02:29:12.840 --> 02:29:16.319 was only paid in full for two pay perviews during 2828 02:29:16.360 --> 02:29:19.319 two year two of his agreement. He was paid one 2829 02:29:19.399 --> 02:29:22.200 half his pay per view guarantee compensation at one hundred 2830 02:29:22.239 --> 02:29:27.280 and thirty seven thousand, five hundred dollars. These just admit 2831 02:29:27.399 --> 02:29:29.920 own mister Uty this guaranteed compensation. 2832 02:29:30.159 --> 02:29:33.280 Defendants owing mister Udy this guaranteed. 2833 02:29:32.840 --> 02:29:37.120 Company defensive breach their agreement by Faund to pay this 2834 02:29:37.239 --> 02:29:39.719 amount for year two, which is one hundred and thirty 2835 02:29:39.760 --> 02:29:44.920 five thousand, five hundred dollars. Defendants, by and through mister 2836 02:29:45.040 --> 02:29:48.360 Eric Bischoff, mister Vince Russo and mister Yuty agreed that 2837 02:29:48.479 --> 02:29:50.719 mister Uty would be paid fifty thousand dollars for an 2838 02:29:50.760 --> 02:29:53.239 extra pay per view event that mister Uty would not 2839 02:29:53.360 --> 02:29:57.000 appeal I have to appear at. He would be paid 2840 02:29:57.399 --> 02:29:59.920 for an extra pay per view event that he would 2841 02:30:00.120 --> 02:30:05.079 not have to appear at. Sounds great disagreement was further ratified. 2842 02:30:05.120 --> 02:30:06.639 But I mean, who fuck agrees to that. 2843 02:30:07.600 --> 02:30:09.079 Well, they're trying to get him to do something, and 2844 02:30:10.440 --> 02:30:13.600 if they offerm fifty grand to do nothing, maybe he'll 2845 02:30:13.639 --> 02:30:13.799 do it. 2846 02:30:16.000 --> 02:30:16.520 No sense. 2847 02:30:16.719 --> 02:30:18.559 Well, you know, let's not forget a huge part of 2848 02:30:18.639 --> 02:30:21.559 Russo's psychology was always clear out the old guys, you know, 2849 02:30:22.040 --> 02:30:23.959 the old god there were the big earners. In the beginning, 2850 02:30:24.559 --> 02:30:26.559 as he's trying to run Hogan out, you know, in 2851 02:30:26.639 --> 02:30:28.360 the first the first time he got the book, he 2852 02:30:28.360 --> 02:30:32.120 did Hogan lay down for Sting right away and flare 2853 02:30:32.159 --> 02:30:33.760 eggsit the picture is kind of like this thing of like, 2854 02:30:33.840 --> 02:30:36.079 you know, let's let's have these huge earners exit the 2855 02:30:36.120 --> 02:30:39.000 picture until we can weave them back in in a 2856 02:30:39.079 --> 02:30:41.200 company that I can remake in my image while they're gone, 2857 02:30:41.399 --> 02:30:42.879 you know, without their interference. 2858 02:30:43.799 --> 02:30:45.920 Like it's like, but you're going to pay them, Like 2859 02:30:46.000 --> 02:30:47.319 you're you're spending money for nothing? 2860 02:30:47.319 --> 02:30:49.680 What would Yeah, Well there you go. That's WCW for you, 2861 02:30:50.920 --> 02:30:54.440 that's WW for you. You know, yeah, yeah, I'm sure 2862 02:30:54.719 --> 02:30:57.479 in their mind they're doing it for something. They're they're 2863 02:30:57.559 --> 02:31:00.479 doing what it takes to get him to agree to, 2864 02:31:01.440 --> 02:31:04.760 you know, actually strengthen somebody on the way out as 2865 02:31:04.799 --> 02:31:07.879 the outgoing world champion instead of just disappearing without a 2866 02:31:07.959 --> 02:31:08.639 scratch on him. 2867 02:31:09.440 --> 02:31:10.799 Yeah, Jesus. 2868 02:31:10.879 --> 02:31:12.680 Thing is the creative that came up with was so 2869 02:31:12.760 --> 02:31:15.639 ineffective that whatever they thought they got out of sid 2870 02:31:15.760 --> 02:31:18.440 doing that, no one remembers to this day what he did. 2871 02:31:18.559 --> 02:31:28.319 No one even can remember. Mister Yuti was not paid 2872 02:31:28.360 --> 02:31:30.719 anything in year three of his agreement because the agreement 2873 02:31:30.799 --> 02:31:34.719 was unlawfully and improperly terminated by Defenise. Defendise have breached 2874 02:31:34.719 --> 02:31:39.079 their agreement by failing to pay this one million, three 2875 02:31:39.159 --> 02:31:44.840 hundred and eighty thousand dollars in compensation. Defendants improperly and 2876 02:31:44.920 --> 02:31:47.159 in breaches of the agreement with mister Uti, reduced his 2877 02:31:47.360 --> 02:31:51.600 pay during year two of this agreement. By all these acts, 2878 02:31:51.719 --> 02:31:55.000 defendants breached their duties of good faith and fair dealing. 2879 02:31:56.040 --> 02:32:00.200 As direct and in approximate result of defendants acts, mister 2880 02:32:00.319 --> 02:32:05.159 Uty has suffered harm, including the loss was pay under 2881 02:32:05.159 --> 02:32:13.559 the agreement, loss of endorsements, okay, and status as a performer. Actually, 2882 02:32:13.600 --> 02:32:15.440 when you're out of when you're at a commission, usually 2883 02:32:15.479 --> 02:32:16.600 your status grows. 2884 02:32:16.399 --> 02:32:18.559 Right, that's kind of a specious thing. I've lost my 2885 02:32:18.639 --> 02:32:19.719 status as a performer. 2886 02:32:20.639 --> 02:32:28.120 Yeah, miss okay, whenever you say pal. Mister Ute is 2887 02:32:28.239 --> 02:32:31.319 entitled to damages for the breaches of the agreements, including 2888 02:32:31.360 --> 02:32:33.559 but not limited to you, payment for the other half 2889 02:32:33.639 --> 02:32:36.680 of his guaranteed pay per view events for two thousand 2890 02:32:36.680 --> 02:32:38.399 and two thousand and one at one hundred and thirty 2891 02:32:38.440 --> 02:32:42.879 five five hundred dollars per event, this full value of 2892 02:32:43.040 --> 02:32:46.120 remainder of the agreement from June first, two thousand and 2893 02:32:46.200 --> 02:32:51.120 one until July one, two thousand and two, repayment of 2894 02:32:51.239 --> 02:32:55.600 improperty or improperly reduced salary unturned in the term of 2895 02:32:55.680 --> 02:32:58.840 his agreement, payment for the fifty thousand dollars pay per 2896 02:32:58.920 --> 02:33:02.479 view promised by mister Bischoff, mister Russo and Ms Myers 2897 02:33:05.040 --> 02:33:08.719 uh an officer and employees in WW. In definis, and 2898 02:33:08.879 --> 02:33:12.239 such other damages resulting from defendant's breaches. 2899 02:33:12.000 --> 02:33:15.360 We do remember that those the contract that sid signed 2900 02:33:15.520 --> 02:33:18.600 was backloaded, so the biggest earning year was the last 2901 02:33:18.639 --> 02:33:20.920 year of the contract, right, which fucked them in so 2902 02:33:21.000 --> 02:33:23.559 many ways in WW because when these contracts would reach 2903 02:33:23.600 --> 02:33:27.879 their final years, they couldn't afford any of them because 2904 02:33:28.319 --> 02:33:32.200 revenue had taken such a big hit. But Britain and 2905 02:33:32.280 --> 02:33:34.200 none of them. You know what I mean, many of them. 2906 02:33:34.559 --> 02:33:37.040 And here he's saying June one, twenty oh one to 2907 02:33:37.159 --> 02:33:39.719 July one, twenty oh two, we would have been entitled 2908 02:33:39.719 --> 02:33:44.040 to one point thirty eight million dollars that they did 2909 02:33:44.120 --> 02:33:47.040 not pay because they terminated the contract in March. But 2910 02:33:47.200 --> 02:33:49.719 that's that's a big chunk. That's a lot to count on. 2911 02:33:49.799 --> 02:33:51.559 You're looking at that contract thinking, oh, man, I got 2912 02:33:51.559 --> 02:33:55.200 my biggest year coming up. Yeah, right, ever happens, and 2913 02:33:55.280 --> 02:33:57.120 it never happens in part because you jumped off the 2914 02:33:57.159 --> 02:34:00.520 fucking rope because they made you do it. That's annoying 2915 02:34:00.559 --> 02:34:02.079 as fuck. That must piss him off. 2916 02:34:04.120 --> 02:34:05.040 Oh, I'm sure it does. 2917 02:34:05.520 --> 02:34:08.440 They probably would have moved to terminate his contract anyway, 2918 02:34:09.600 --> 02:34:11.799 but they pulled a game like they did with Hogan 2919 02:34:11.840 --> 02:34:13.479 where he didn't show for something or something make it. 2920 02:34:13.600 --> 02:34:16.040 You know, they had a lot of games, but the 2921 02:34:16.120 --> 02:34:19.000 fact that he was home injured really increased the menu 2922 02:34:19.079 --> 02:34:20.719 of games they could play on this guy. 2923 02:34:22.959 --> 02:34:29.200 Yeah, so it seems like count to breach of fidu 2924 02:34:29.520 --> 02:34:36.200 if what is it deduciary brother, fiduciary bro who breach 2925 02:34:36.280 --> 02:34:40.879 of fiduciary duty. Mister uty adopts real edges and incorporates 2926 02:34:40.920 --> 02:34:45.799 hearing and above Bob reference all allegations containing paragraphs one 2927 02:34:45.840 --> 02:34:49.200 through seventy six of the Amended Complaint fully and completely 2928 02:34:49.280 --> 02:34:53.559 as if set forth hearing. Mister Uti was an independent 2929 02:34:53.600 --> 02:34:56.840 contractor by defendants and provides skills and services for which 2930 02:34:56.879 --> 02:35:02.239 defendants received financial benefits. Mister Uti was convinced to perform 2931 02:35:02.440 --> 02:35:05.760 acts which were injurious and dangerous to him for the 2932 02:35:05.799 --> 02:35:10.840 benefit of the company and to drive up ratings. I 2933 02:35:11.040 --> 02:35:11.920 drove ratings. 2934 02:35:12.840 --> 02:35:15.399 Gott it, I gave up even looking it up. I mean, 2935 02:35:15.719 --> 02:35:17.760 the WCW ratings in two thousand and one were so 2936 02:35:17.959 --> 02:35:20.639 fucking laughable that for him to suggest for a second, 2937 02:35:20.760 --> 02:35:23.600 oh yeah, for a second that the twenty second clip 2938 02:35:23.639 --> 02:35:25.840 they played of him breaking his leg made any difference 2939 02:35:25.959 --> 02:35:26.520 and drived in. 2940 02:35:26.559 --> 02:35:29.479 I mean even I mean even so, like you know, 2941 02:35:31.600 --> 02:35:34.879 you know, driving up ratings for WCW in two thousand, 2942 02:35:35.000 --> 02:35:37.399 thousand and one is not something to brag about. It 2943 02:35:37.559 --> 02:35:42.840 definitely not. You know, mister Uti performed acts for the 2944 02:35:42.879 --> 02:35:46.159 benefit of at defendis assistance, including but not limited to 2945 02:35:46.319 --> 02:35:52.159 making appearances, performing while injured in other acts, sexual acts 2946 02:35:54.520 --> 02:35:57.920 at defendance assistance, and for the express benefit defendants mister 2947 02:35:58.079 --> 02:36:01.280 Uti performed a leave from the top ropes of the ring, 2948 02:36:01.799 --> 02:36:05.399 resulting in both of the bones in his leg breaking 2949 02:36:06.520 --> 02:36:07.360 being broken. 2950 02:36:10.079 --> 02:36:13.079 Well I'm reading here. TSN actually in Canada decided not 2951 02:36:13.239 --> 02:36:16.280 to show the injury, edited it off the Canadian version 2952 02:36:16.280 --> 02:36:16.719 of Nitro. 2953 02:36:17.840 --> 02:36:22.760 That's smart. Yeah. When mister Uti was severely injured on 2954 02:36:22.840 --> 02:36:26.040 the pay per view as a result, Defendance X defendants 2955 02:36:26.079 --> 02:36:29.799 improperly and then bad faith reduced mister Udie's pay and 2956 02:36:29.879 --> 02:36:35.879 then terminate his contract. Defendants capitalized on the nature and 2957 02:36:35.920 --> 02:36:39.360 the severity of mister Utie's injuries incurred as a result 2958 02:36:39.479 --> 02:36:44.079 Defendance misconduct and replayed the incident of live television on 2959 02:36:44.239 --> 02:36:47.239 live Television repeatedly used it as a focal point for 2960 02:36:47.319 --> 02:36:50.559 the for the following week's show by having mister Udie's 2961 02:36:50.559 --> 02:36:55.680 physicians show X rays of mister Udie's leg, describing the 2962 02:36:55.840 --> 02:36:58.959 nature an extent, an extent of the nature and the 2963 02:36:59.040 --> 02:37:02.639 surgery necessary for boats or such an injury, and otherwise 2964 02:37:02.760 --> 02:37:08.079 advertised in promoting the injury. This promotion resulted in higher 2965 02:37:08.159 --> 02:37:13.120 ratings and income for defendants. Defense would retain the benefits 2966 02:37:13.200 --> 02:37:17.600 of this incident, even though defendants had cut mister Ute's 2967 02:37:17.639 --> 02:37:23.959 pay and then terminate his contracts shortly thereafter. As mister 2968 02:37:24.079 --> 02:37:30.920 UTI's contractor employer, performance league, Performance League, and or as 2969 02:37:30.959 --> 02:37:34.920 the prime beneficiary of mister Utie's labors, Defendants owed duties 2970 02:37:35.000 --> 02:37:38.959 to mister Uti, including fiduciary duties, duties of good faith 2971 02:37:39.120 --> 02:37:44.399 and fair dealing. As a result of defendants misconduct, mister 2972 02:37:44.600 --> 02:37:48.479 Uty has suffered damages, including, but not limited to, the 2973 02:37:48.600 --> 02:37:53.360 loss of his agreement and defenance with defancy yeah well 2974 02:37:53.440 --> 02:37:57.559 with defendants, the loss of income associated with his performance, 2975 02:37:57.840 --> 02:38:01.760 the loss of future revenue from his performance, and other damages. 2976 02:38:03.319 --> 02:38:12.680 Defenders contact was grossly intentional, negligent, reckless, willful, wanton, malicious, oppressive, 2977 02:38:13.440 --> 02:38:17.680 and or unmindful of their duty and obligations to plaintiffs, 2978 02:38:18.760 --> 02:38:24.280 and or exhibited that uh that entire, that entire want 2979 02:38:24.520 --> 02:38:28.760 want of care like lacking care. I see that entire 2980 02:38:28.879 --> 02:38:32.559 want of care, which would raise the presumption the presumption 2981 02:38:33.120 --> 02:38:39.360 of conscious and indifference to consequences, so as to warrant 2982 02:38:39.440 --> 02:38:43.840 the imposition of punitive damages in an amount sufficient to punish, 2983 02:38:44.319 --> 02:38:48.879 penalized and or deter defendants from similar conduct in the future. 2984 02:38:52.559 --> 02:38:59.760 Count three unjust enrichment mister Udi adopts real legs and 2985 02:39:00.159 --> 02:39:03.680 prates hearing and above all references by reference all allegations 2986 02:39:04.000 --> 02:39:07.079 containing paragraphs one through eighty five of the Amended Complaint 2987 02:39:07.479 --> 02:39:12.120 fully and completely as if set forth hearing. Defendants had 2988 02:39:12.120 --> 02:39:17.200 an insurance policy cover mister Uti upon information and belief. 2989 02:39:17.879 --> 02:39:20.959 This policy cover the full value of mister Utiy's agreement. 2990 02:39:23.440 --> 02:39:27.079 Defendants capitalize on the name made you're on severity of 2991 02:39:27.120 --> 02:39:31.000 mister Udie's injuries incurred as a result defenders misconduct and 2992 02:39:31.120 --> 02:39:34.600 replayed the incident on live television repeatedly used it as 2993 02:39:34.639 --> 02:39:37.680 a focal point for the following shows by having mister 2994 02:39:37.840 --> 02:39:42.079 Udie's physicians show X rays of mister Udie's leg, describing 2995 02:39:42.200 --> 02:39:45.159 the nature and extent of the injury and the surgery 2996 02:39:45.280 --> 02:39:49.120 necessary for such injury, and otherwise advertising promoting the injury. 2997 02:39:51.120 --> 02:39:55.479 The promotion resulted in higher ratings and income for defenise 2998 02:39:55.840 --> 02:39:59.040 defendants that retained the benefits of this incident, even though 2999 02:39:59.200 --> 02:40:02.719 defendants had cut mister Yute's pay and then terminated his 3000 02:40:02.840 --> 02:40:08.680 show shortly thereafter. Upon mister Ute's injury, which was caused 3001 02:40:08.680 --> 02:40:12.399 by the misconduct of defense, Defendants retained the proceeds of 3002 02:40:12.479 --> 02:40:17.799 the insurance policy and profited from the higher earning ratings 3003 02:40:18.200 --> 02:40:21.120 from the severity of mister Ute's injury, and we're thereby 3004 02:40:21.879 --> 02:40:28.799 unjust and riched. The ill gotten proceeds, including but not 3005 02:40:28.920 --> 02:40:32.680 limited to the insurance proceeds and the proceeds from the 3006 02:40:32.799 --> 02:40:39.120 raised ratings, should be disgorged and given. Mister Yudi. Yes, 3007 02:40:40.120 --> 02:40:45.520 countiforn neligence, Mister Udi adopts real legs and incorporates here 3008 02:40:45.600 --> 02:40:51.520 in and above by reference all allegations contained in Paragraphs 3009 02:40:51.559 --> 02:40:56.600 one through ninety one of the amending complaint fully and completely, 3010 02:40:56.639 --> 02:41:04.000 as if set forth Herein's contractor employer performed league and 3011 02:41:04.360 --> 02:41:09.840 or as the prime beneficiary of mister Uty's labors. Defendants 3012 02:41:09.959 --> 02:41:15.360 owed duties to mister Uty. Defendse breeched their duty to 3013 02:41:15.959 --> 02:41:19.120 the mister Uti by insisting that he performed while he 3014 02:41:19.319 --> 02:41:22.920 was injured and performed moved from the top rope, which 3015 02:41:23.879 --> 02:41:29.520 resulted in serious and permanent damage to mister Uty. As 3016 02:41:29.520 --> 02:41:34.040 a result of definite misconduct, mister Uty has suffered damages, 3017 02:41:34.920 --> 02:41:37.479 including but not limited to the loss of his agreement 3018 02:41:38.319 --> 02:41:44.399 with definance, the loss of income associated with his performance, 3019 02:41:44.479 --> 02:41:48.799 the rest of the cabin the rest performance is the 3020 02:41:48.840 --> 02:41:53.040 loss of future revenue and from his performances and other damages. 3021 02:41:55.399 --> 02:42:04.040 Defendant conduct was grossly intentional, negligent, reckless, willful, wanton, malicious, oppressive, 3022 02:42:04.719 --> 02:42:11.239 and or unmindful of their duty and allegations to plaintiffs, 3023 02:42:11.399 --> 02:42:16.040 and or exhibited that entire want of care. Exhibited that 3024 02:42:16.280 --> 02:42:19.120 entire want of care which would raise the presumption of 3025 02:42:19.200 --> 02:42:23.120 conscious indifference to consequences so as to warrant the imposition 3026 02:42:23.520 --> 02:42:28.319 of punitive damages in an amount sufficient to punish, penalize, 3027 02:42:28.840 --> 02:42:32.079 and or detrue defendance from similar cons in the future. 3028 02:42:32.239 --> 02:42:36.559 Whether the ww had, if nothing else, conscious indifference to consequences. 3029 02:42:36.360 --> 02:42:44.799 Indeed, well, that makes sense obviously Count five. It is 3030 02:42:45.959 --> 02:42:51.200 an eligent infliction of emotional distress. Mister Udi adobts realegenes 3031 02:42:51.239 --> 02:42:56.040 incorporates herein above and by reference all allegations containing paragraphs 3032 02:42:56.079 --> 02:43:00.319 one through ninety six of the many complaints fully incompletely, 3033 02:43:00.680 --> 02:43:04.639 as if set forth arian By insisting that mister Udi 3034 02:43:04.719 --> 02:43:08.559 perform a wrestling move that required him to leave from 3035 02:43:08.600 --> 02:43:12.079 the top rope, mister Lawernitis forced mister Judi to suffer 3036 02:43:12.159 --> 02:43:16.799 a physical impact which resulted in a physical harm to 3037 02:43:16.920 --> 02:43:22.280 mister Udy, Mister Utie's physical injury has caused him into 3038 02:43:22.360 --> 02:43:27.959 much mental UH suffering and emotional distress, for which he 3039 02:43:28.079 --> 02:43:31.520 is entitled to recover in an amount to be determined 3040 02:43:32.559 --> 02:43:44.360 a trial. Defenders conduct was grossly intentional, negligent, reckless, willful, wanton, malicious, oppressive, 3041 02:43:45.799 --> 02:43:49.719 UH and or unmindful of their duty and obligations to plaintiffs, 3042 02:43:49.840 --> 02:43:55.719 and or exhibited that entire want of phraise the presumption, 3043 02:43:56.239 --> 02:44:01.600 raise the presumption of conscious indifference to consequce once so 3044 02:44:01.840 --> 02:44:06.399 as to warrant the UH imposition of punity of damages 3045 02:44:06.920 --> 02:44:11.559 an amount to an amount of sufficient to punish, penalize, 3046 02:44:11.879 --> 02:44:16.079 and in order to tur defendance from similar conducts conduct 3047 02:44:16.159 --> 02:44:26.440 in the future. Count six negligent retention. Mister Udy adopts 3048 02:44:26.479 --> 02:44:29.840 religions incorporates here and above all and by reference, all 3049 02:44:29.920 --> 02:44:33.120 allegations contained in paragraphs Once you one hundred of the 3050 02:44:33.200 --> 02:44:36.159 many complaint fully and completely as if set forth here 3051 02:44:36.280 --> 02:44:43.000 in uw ct S I and TG no knew or 3052 02:44:43.040 --> 02:44:47.479 should have known of mister Lauria's propensity to engage in 3053 02:44:47.600 --> 02:44:50.399 the conduct for which mister from which resulted in mister 3054 02:44:50.520 --> 02:44:51.319 Utie's injury. 3055 02:44:51.479 --> 02:44:54.840 They should have known that mister Laurenidis would insist on 3056 02:44:54.959 --> 02:44:55.600 him doing the move. 3057 02:44:58.479 --> 02:45:03.319 Yeah. Course. The claim is that u w C, TSI 3058 02:45:03.399 --> 02:45:06.479 and TZ breached their duty to mister Udi by retaining 3059 02:45:06.520 --> 02:45:09.559 mister Laurinitis as an employee while knowing he had the 3060 02:45:09.639 --> 02:45:12.639 propensity to engage in the conduct which resulted in mister 3061 02:45:12.799 --> 02:45:19.479 Udie's injury. UWC, TSI and TG's breach caused damage to 3062 02:45:19.559 --> 02:45:24.040 mister Udi and amount to be determined a trial. UH 3063 02:45:24.200 --> 02:45:27.120 defend conduct was grossly intentional. That one. 3064 02:45:27.399 --> 02:45:31.399 It's the same thing again about want of care, okay. 3065 02:45:32.680 --> 02:45:39.000 Count seven tortious interference with contractual relations. Mister Udi adops 3066 02:45:39.040 --> 02:45:42.280 real edges incorporates here in above and all and by 3067 02:45:42.360 --> 02:45:45.360 reference all allegations contained in paragraphs one through one oh 3068 02:45:45.479 --> 02:45:49.079 five and the amended complaint fully and completely as have 3069 02:45:49.200 --> 02:45:52.520 set forth here in. Mister Udi and w CW had 3070 02:45:52.559 --> 02:45:56.760 a valid contract for wrestling services. Mister Laurenitis was not 3071 02:45:56.840 --> 02:45:59.719 a party to the contract between mister Udi and w 3072 02:45:59.840 --> 02:46:05.000 C don' Mister laurenaiis acted intentionally and without privilege or 3073 02:46:05.239 --> 02:46:10.959 justification when he when he induced mister Beauty to engage 3074 02:46:11.040 --> 02:46:14.520 in conduct resulting in his ability to continue business relations 3075 02:46:14.600 --> 02:46:21.920 with w c W. As a result of mister Laurenius's misconduct, 3076 02:46:22.520 --> 02:46:26.280 Mister uty sud subverb damages including but not limited to, 3077 02:46:26.360 --> 02:46:29.959 the loss of his agreement with the defense, the loss 3078 02:46:30.000 --> 02:46:34.200 of becoming, a loss of income associated with his performance, 3079 02:46:34.840 --> 02:46:38.000 the loss of future revenue from his performances, and other damages. 3080 02:46:39.360 --> 02:46:42.959 And this is the want of care again counting. He 3081 02:46:43.040 --> 02:46:48.120 seeks attorney's fees, which is, you know, basic defenders have 3082 02:46:48.159 --> 02:46:51.159 acted in bad faith, been stubbornly litigious, and have caused 3083 02:46:51.239 --> 02:46:56.319 mister Beauty unnecessary trouble and expense. Oh my god, stubbornly litigious. Okay, 3084 02:46:56.559 --> 02:46:58.959 that's uh, that's a rich coming from sid. 3085 02:47:00.040 --> 02:47:00.200 Yeah. 3086 02:47:00.280 --> 02:47:03.000 Right now he gets sued. He doesn't sue as much, 3087 02:47:03.959 --> 02:47:07.360 so it requires reasonable attorney's fees and that the court 3088 02:47:07.399 --> 02:47:12.360 grant him judgment against defendants as follows process be issued 3089 02:47:12.399 --> 02:47:17.200 and served as provided by law. Okay, the court received 3090 02:47:17.280 --> 02:47:19.239 judgment in an amount to be determined at trial. So 3091 02:47:19.319 --> 02:47:21.000 he doesn't name how much he thinks he's entitled to. 3092 02:47:21.079 --> 02:47:23.520 He wants to lead right to a jury. He wants 3093 02:47:23.559 --> 02:47:25.360 a judgment in the amount to be determined a trial 3094 02:47:25.879 --> 02:47:29.079 by the finer. A fact against defendant jointly and severally 3095 02:47:29.159 --> 02:47:31.159 for general special Okay, this is all the stuff he's 3096 02:47:31.200 --> 02:47:34.159 basically requiring to get paid for, in addition to whatever 3097 02:47:34.280 --> 02:47:37.479 judgment that he would get the cost associated with litigation 3098 02:47:37.559 --> 02:47:43.079 attorney's fees of course he once covered, and that there 3099 02:47:43.200 --> 02:47:46.959 be no limitation to the punitive damages or trouble damages 3100 02:47:47.000 --> 02:47:50.600 that he could be in receipt of, and that the 3101 02:47:50.680 --> 02:47:53.280 Court grants such other and further relief as it deems 3102 02:47:53.399 --> 02:47:57.639 just and proper respectfully submitted this fifth day of February 3103 02:47:57.680 --> 02:48:00.799 two thousand and three. So I guess he wasn't lying 3104 02:48:00.840 --> 02:48:01.360 when he said this. 3105 02:48:02.600 --> 02:48:05.120 Was there ever any legal situation with w c W 3106 02:48:05.760 --> 02:48:07.360 over them asking me to do a movie? 3107 02:48:07.399 --> 02:48:08.719 We're comfortable with no. 3108 02:48:11.559 --> 02:48:16.719 So those are the claims of one SID, all of 3109 02:48:16.799 --> 02:48:22.079 the the allegations there around breach of contract, around all 3110 02:48:22.120 --> 02:48:25.680 of this business about cutting his deal in half and 3111 02:48:25.959 --> 02:48:29.559 icing him. Yep uh, that's that's the ways in which 3112 02:48:30.159 --> 02:48:34.559 SID is aggrieved. And we're accustomed by this point to 3113 02:48:35.239 --> 02:48:39.760 to processing various grievances that SID may have it at 3114 02:48:39.760 --> 02:48:44.399 a given point in time. So we've got what was it, 3115 02:48:44.680 --> 02:48:48.040 breach of contract? It was a laundry list, but count 3116 02:48:48.079 --> 02:48:52.040 one breach of contract. He's claiming breach of fiduciary duty, 3117 02:48:52.319 --> 02:48:53.280 which is a money one. 3118 02:48:56.120 --> 02:48:56.399 We have. 3119 02:48:58.360 --> 02:49:03.440 Unjust and Richmond negligence, negligent and infliction of emotional distress, 3120 02:49:03.879 --> 02:49:08.559 negligent retention, tortious interference with contractual relation. 3121 02:49:08.840 --> 02:49:11.399 Tortous interference is one of my favorite fucking it's one 3122 02:49:11.399 --> 02:49:13.479 of my favorite kinds things ever. 3123 02:49:13.639 --> 02:49:15.159 One of my favorite kinds of interference. 3124 02:49:15.200 --> 02:49:19.120 Really. Yes, absolutely outside of interference, we have torchus interference. 3125 02:49:19.520 --> 02:49:21.840 They should use it more in wrestling finishes. And he's 3126 02:49:21.840 --> 02:49:23.159 looking for attorney's fees as well. 3127 02:49:23.520 --> 02:49:24.360 So that's what you know. 3128 02:49:24.479 --> 02:49:27.879 Sid is claiming in a court of law the ways 3129 02:49:27.920 --> 02:49:30.120 in which his rights have been violated as a result 3130 02:49:30.159 --> 02:49:32.280 of what happened at Sin and his leg break. So 3131 02:49:32.440 --> 02:49:35.719 now comes Universal Wrestling Corporation, that is to say, the 3132 02:49:35.799 --> 02:49:40.040 former World Championship Wrestling. They offer their defense in Fulton 3133 02:49:40.040 --> 02:49:43.399 County Court in Georgia, and they're going to go basically 3134 02:49:43.520 --> 02:49:47.319 line by line on the things cit Is alleged. God, 3135 02:49:47.639 --> 02:49:50.040 have we get a perspective of where the erstwhile World 3136 02:49:50.120 --> 02:49:53.200 Championship Wrestling is coming from again? Two years after shutting 3137 02:49:53.200 --> 02:49:56.360 its doors, they're still dealing with this. This is actually 3138 02:49:56.399 --> 02:49:59.280 stamped to April twenty oh two, so just about a 3139 02:49:59.360 --> 02:50:03.200 year after close using they're still dealing with cases like 3140 02:50:03.280 --> 02:50:06.840 this and Boss, I wish you could put your WCW 3141 02:50:07.000 --> 02:50:10.719 lawyer hat on, get your nick Lambro swarmed up and 3142 02:50:10.840 --> 02:50:13.319 deliver us. The response of Universal Wrestling. 3143 02:50:12.959 --> 02:50:23.440 Corporation Answer, Universal Wrestling Corporation, Turner Sports Incorporated, and Turner 3144 02:50:23.479 --> 02:50:30.280 Entertainment Group Incorporated. Yes, defendants, Universal Wrestling Corporation, UWC, Turner 3145 02:50:30.360 --> 02:50:35.079 Sports Incorporated, Turner Sports, and Turner Entertainment Group Incorporated, TEG 3146 02:50:35.440 --> 02:50:40.440 collect Louisa, referred to as defendants hereby answer Plaintiff's complaint 3147 02:50:40.520 --> 02:50:46.520 as follows. First, Defense Defendants respond to the individually numbered 3148 02:50:46.559 --> 02:50:52.879 paragraphs and plaintiffs complaint the complaint as follows. Defendants are 3149 02:50:52.920 --> 02:50:55.840 without knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief as 3150 02:50:55.879 --> 02:50:58.799 to the truth of the allegations contained in the first 3151 02:50:58.799 --> 02:51:02.799 sentence of paragraph one complaint. In response the allegations contained 3152 02:51:02.840 --> 02:51:05.120 in the second sentence of paragraph one of the complaints, 3153 02:51:06.200 --> 02:51:10.319 defendants admit that plaintiff had entered into contracts with defendant 3154 02:51:10.559 --> 02:51:16.079 Universal Wrestling Corporation formerly known as World Championship Wrestling Incorporated, WCW. 3155 02:51:16.600 --> 02:51:17.520 Now paragraph one. 3156 02:51:17.520 --> 02:51:21.760 Of the complaints that they have insufficient information to form 3157 02:51:21.799 --> 02:51:25.639 a belief of You know what, Paragraph one says that 3158 02:51:25.760 --> 02:51:29.719 he lives in Arkansas. I'm sorry, we just we cannot 3159 02:51:29.760 --> 02:51:33.000 confirm that he ever resided in Arkansas. That is just 3160 02:51:33.079 --> 02:51:36.040 something that we don't have evidence of, Nor do we 3161 02:51:36.239 --> 02:51:38.600 desire evidence of that. Yeah, nor are we doing a 3162 02:51:38.639 --> 02:51:40.200 single thing to seek said evidence. 3163 02:51:40.559 --> 02:51:42.280 You know, I don't need to know if he came 3164 02:51:42.319 --> 02:51:45.120 from Arkansas and already reside in Arkansas. What I need 3165 02:51:45.200 --> 02:51:49.879 to tell you is that we don't know, We cannot know. 3166 02:51:50.319 --> 02:51:54.879 We do not have sufficient information or evidence to form 3167 02:51:54.920 --> 02:51:57.559 a belief that he has ever resided in Arkansas. 3168 02:51:57.719 --> 02:52:01.159 Your honor, I don't know, and I wouldn't want to 3169 02:52:01.200 --> 02:52:03.639 know as a wise man. 3170 02:52:04.760 --> 02:52:08.000 Let me just say, your honor, we don't know if 3171 02:52:08.040 --> 02:52:10.840 it's if he's been telling the truth about Arkansas. So therefore, 3172 02:52:10.879 --> 02:52:12.440 how can we tell, well, how can we be sure 3173 02:52:12.440 --> 02:52:16.040 he's told the truth about anything? And with that, I 3174 02:52:16.200 --> 02:52:19.120 submit my motion to dismiss, and with that we rest 3175 02:52:19.200 --> 02:52:25.799 our case. So yeah, that's that's where we're at. It's hilarious. 3176 02:52:25.840 --> 02:52:28.719 So they're defending that he entered into contracts that's big 3177 02:52:28.799 --> 02:52:29.079 of them. 3178 02:52:29.760 --> 02:52:31.319 We do. We do admit that you know he had 3179 02:52:31.440 --> 02:52:35.040 entered into contracts with defendant Universal Wrestling Corporation formerly known 3180 02:52:35.079 --> 02:52:39.159 as World Championship Wrestling Corporate at the WCW to perform 3181 02:52:39.440 --> 02:52:45.440 services as a professional wrestler. Defendants deny the remaining allegations 3182 02:52:45.479 --> 02:52:47.559 contained in the second sentence a paragraph one of the 3183 02:52:47.600 --> 02:52:54.159 complaints and response the allegation is contained in the first 3184 02:52:54.200 --> 02:52:57.799 sentence of paragraph two of the complaint. Defendants admit that 3185 02:52:57.920 --> 02:53:02.959 defendant Universal Wrestling Corporation is a Georgia corporation formerly known 3186 02:53:03.000 --> 02:53:07.520 as World Championship Wrestling Corporated. Defendants admit the allegations contained 3187 02:53:07.520 --> 02:53:10.840 to the third sentence paragraph two the complaint. Defendants deny 3188 02:53:11.600 --> 02:53:14.239 the allegations contained in the second and fourth sentences a 3189 02:53:14.280 --> 02:53:17.120 paragraph to the complaint, except that they admit that such 3190 02:53:17.200 --> 02:53:21.120 allegations purport to state that UWC is subject to the 3191 02:53:21.239 --> 02:53:26.799 jurisdiction of this Court in this action. Defendants admit the 3192 02:53:26.879 --> 02:53:29.280 allegations contained in the first sentence paragraph. 3193 02:53:28.959 --> 02:53:34.040 Three goes on link jump up to twelve. Please to twelve, okay. 3194 02:53:36.559 --> 02:53:39.319 In response to the allegations a paragraph twelve the complaint, 3195 02:53:39.360 --> 02:53:43.520 defendants admit that for a certain period prior to March 3196 02:53:43.559 --> 02:53:45.799 one in nine, two thousand and one, ww was engaged 3197 02:53:45.840 --> 02:53:46.920 in the business. 3198 02:53:48.520 --> 02:53:51.159 This has to a lawyer was paid to write that sentence. 3199 02:53:51.239 --> 02:53:52.840 I want you to finish it and then read it again. 3200 02:53:52.879 --> 02:54:02.360 Please, was engaged in the business of professional wrestling. In 3201 02:54:02.479 --> 02:54:05.479 response the allegation the paragraph twelve of the complaint, defendants 3202 02:54:05.559 --> 02:54:09.319 admit that for a certain period prior to March twenty nine, 3203 02:54:09.360 --> 02:54:12.760 two thousand and one, WCW was engaged in the business 3204 02:54:13.399 --> 02:54:14.360 a professional. 3205 02:54:13.959 --> 02:54:17.040 Wrestling And just to further drive it home, jumped forward 3206 02:54:17.040 --> 02:54:18.760 too point twenty three, Please. 3207 02:54:20.280 --> 02:54:25.920 For a period prior how about fucking thirty years prior 3208 02:54:26.840 --> 02:54:29.559 for thirty years for a certain period prior to March 3209 02:54:29.559 --> 02:54:33.280 twenty nine, two thousand and one. Believable? Twenty what now? 3210 02:54:33.559 --> 02:54:37.840 Twenty three? Twenty three. In response the allegations contained and 3211 02:54:37.959 --> 02:54:41.319 paragraph twenty three of the complaint, defendants admit that WCW did, 3212 02:54:42.040 --> 02:54:44.159 for a certain period prior to March twenty nine, two 3213 02:54:44.159 --> 02:54:46.719 thousand and one, promote and produce wrestling events. You've got 3214 02:54:46.840 --> 02:54:52.680 to be shitting me, including various times, weekly lab television 3215 02:54:52.719 --> 02:54:57.120 shows and weekly tape television shows. Period of time. 3216 02:54:57.200 --> 02:54:58.159 Please this one's a little more. 3217 02:54:58.840 --> 02:55:02.319 It goes on in time time. In response to the 3218 02:55:02.360 --> 02:55:05.840 allegations containing paragraph thirty one on the complaint, defendant state that, 3219 02:55:06.120 --> 02:55:10.440 at all times relevant to Plaintiff's complaint, w CW and 3220 02:55:10.559 --> 02:55:12.959 its employees abided by the written terms of the agreement 3221 02:55:13.159 --> 02:55:15.120 governing plaintiff's pay. 3222 02:55:15.520 --> 02:55:18.120 They are saying, we, you know, we follow the letter 3223 02:55:18.200 --> 02:55:19.639 of the contract. And whatever it is we did with 3224 02:55:19.680 --> 02:55:20.920 sidspe you. 3225 02:55:20.920 --> 02:55:22.879 Know, we we all bid it. We you know, the 3226 02:55:22.920 --> 02:55:26.840 employees of WWT abided by the of the agreement in 3227 02:55:26.879 --> 02:55:31.040 governing plaintiffs pay. By way of further response, defendant state 3228 02:55:31.159 --> 02:55:34.000 that at all times relevant to Plaintiff's complaint, w CW 3229 02:55:34.159 --> 02:55:37.719 and its employees respected and abided by the work restrictions 3230 02:55:37.760 --> 02:55:41.239 and recovery requirements placed on plaintiffs by his medical doctors. 3231 02:55:42.040 --> 02:55:46.719 Except as specifically stated herein, Defendants are without knowledge or 3232 02:55:46.799 --> 02:55:49.799 information sufficient to formal belief as of the truth the 3233 02:55:49.879 --> 02:55:52.959 allegations contained and paragraph thirty one of the complaint, because 3234 02:55:53.360 --> 02:55:57.879 the allegations do not enter alia, refer to a specific 3235 02:55:57.959 --> 02:56:02.840 time period, nor do they refer to specific LEA number 3236 02:56:02.840 --> 02:56:03.520 forty say about that. 3237 02:56:04.959 --> 02:56:07.079 I say, please jump to number forty two please as 3238 02:56:07.159 --> 02:56:09.840 you continue to pass on tremain points. 3239 02:56:11.280 --> 02:56:13.680 And response to the allegations contain a paragraph forty two 3240 02:56:13.719 --> 02:56:16.760 of the complaint. Defendants admit the plane if performed at 3241 02:56:16.799 --> 02:56:19.239 the January fourteenth, two thousand and one pay per view 3242 02:56:19.360 --> 02:56:23.680 in Indianapolis. In response to the allegations regarding the content 3243 02:56:23.879 --> 02:56:26.959 of the script for the event, Defendants state that the 3244 02:56:27.000 --> 02:56:29.719 script is a written document that speaks for itself. 3245 02:56:31.520 --> 02:56:31.799 As to. 3246 02:56:33.719 --> 02:56:37.719 As the content and legal effect, and defendants deny any 3247 02:56:37.799 --> 02:56:42.440 allegations inconsistent with or contrary to the script, except the 3248 02:56:42.479 --> 02:56:46.159 specifically stated herein. Defendants deny the allegations contain a paragraph 3249 02:56:46.200 --> 02:56:48.959 to the complaint, plain. 3250 02:56:48.760 --> 02:56:51.920 And simple, Absolutely, that's the way we roll. How about 3251 02:56:51.920 --> 02:56:55.040 forty seven as it regards playing the tape of the injury. 3252 02:56:55.799 --> 02:56:58.200 And response to the allegations contained in the first sentence 3253 02:56:58.200 --> 02:57:00.719 of paragraph forty seven the complaint defend and state that 3254 02:57:00.840 --> 02:57:03.280 the tape of the live show is a recorded document 3255 02:57:03.360 --> 02:57:07.239 that speaks for itself as to content and legal effect, 3256 02:57:07.680 --> 02:57:10.559 and defenders deny any allegations inconsistent with or contrary to 3257 02:57:10.639 --> 02:57:14.440 that recording. Defendants deny the remaining allegations contained in paragraph 3258 02:57:14.479 --> 02:57:21.520 forty seven of the complaint. What say you judge a 3259 02:57:21.639 --> 02:57:22.399 country lawyar? 3260 02:57:23.879 --> 02:57:24.239 What was that? 3261 02:57:24.520 --> 02:57:28.559 A country lawyer? Sounds a lot like liar, doesn't it? 3262 02:57:32.000 --> 02:57:32.680 Oh my god? 3263 02:57:33.120 --> 02:57:35.840 So they go point by point after everything Sid said, 3264 02:57:35.920 --> 02:57:38.680 and you know, only grant things that are like dates 3265 02:57:38.920 --> 02:57:42.000 and everything else. They yeah, right right, deny de I deny. 3266 02:57:43.120 --> 02:57:45.680 You know where were that? Knowledge? All right? Or information 3267 02:57:45.719 --> 02:57:48.399 is sufficient to form belief. One can just imagine, you know, well. 3268 02:57:48.319 --> 02:57:48.719 Let me tell you. 3269 02:57:48.799 --> 02:57:52.399 I'll just say this. You know, you know, your honor. 3270 02:57:52.520 --> 02:57:54.760 The thing about professional wrestling is you just don't know 3271 02:57:56.079 --> 02:57:58.680 all right. Now, listen, I've watched the shows. I've seen 3272 02:57:59.040 --> 02:58:02.280 a professional wrestling done in many different kinds of you know, 3273 02:58:02.360 --> 02:58:05.000 we just don't know, right, We don't know what is 3274 02:58:05.079 --> 02:58:07.879 real what is not real. We know that there are 3275 02:58:08.000 --> 02:58:11.159 scripts that determine the outcomes of the matches and that 3276 02:58:11.319 --> 02:58:14.239 kind of dictate certain events happening. But did Sid break 3277 02:58:14.360 --> 02:58:14.600 his leg? 3278 02:58:14.639 --> 02:58:15.200 We do not know. 3279 02:58:17.479 --> 02:58:19.239 He appeared to you know, your honor. But a lot 3280 02:58:19.280 --> 02:58:21.559 of things are what they appear in this world are professional. 3281 02:58:21.399 --> 02:58:23.559 Now, I mean, we're listen, your honor. We live in 3282 02:58:23.639 --> 02:58:26.840 the age of computer generated imagery. Oh my god, he's 3283 02:58:26.879 --> 02:58:29.159 not going all right? And Look, I'm just saying, you know, 3284 02:58:30.040 --> 02:58:34.760 you know, we are without knowledge or or information sufficient 3285 02:58:34.840 --> 02:58:37.959 form of belief as to the truth of the breakage 3286 02:58:38.120 --> 02:58:45.120 of sid Uty's leg We don't know, we don't know. 3287 02:58:46.280 --> 02:58:50.399 So ww Filesy's response going through each point they want 3288 02:58:50.479 --> 02:58:52.760 to make about what fact should be stipulated to. And 3289 02:58:52.879 --> 02:58:55.440 if you think sid Folks is going to go quietly 3290 02:58:55.520 --> 02:59:00.559 without denying these denials, then you haven't been paying very 3291 02:59:00.719 --> 02:59:02.920 close attention to this tribute. 3292 02:59:03.399 --> 02:59:05.799 Oh I like this one number sixty five here though, 3293 02:59:05.840 --> 02:59:08.159 by the way, defense and now the allegations contained a 3294 02:59:08.200 --> 02:59:11.200 paragraph sixty five the complaint, except that they admit that 3295 02:59:11.479 --> 02:59:14.920 WCW sold certain of its assets the WWFE in mark 3296 02:59:14.959 --> 02:59:18.000 two thousand and one. We admit that. 3297 02:59:18.920 --> 02:59:20.840 And look, and we're it's big of us to do that, 3298 02:59:21.079 --> 02:59:23.159 because we could drag this thing out all day on 3299 02:59:23.440 --> 02:59:24.719 the finer points of that statement. 3300 02:59:25.360 --> 02:59:27.360 I don't mind going and listen, I go a word 3301 02:59:27.399 --> 02:59:31.479 by word deny the allegations contained in word one of 3302 02:59:31.559 --> 02:59:32.959 paragraph seventy two of the complaints. 3303 02:59:32.959 --> 02:59:35.799 More than anything, we're interested in your honor, in efficient 3304 02:59:35.840 --> 02:59:38.760 administration of justice in this court and not doing anything 3305 02:59:38.799 --> 02:59:42.120 to impede the proper pace of progress for the docket. 3306 02:59:42.520 --> 02:59:44.680 And so we're not going to drill down and dig 3307 02:59:44.760 --> 02:59:47.200 our heels in on points like that, although we're well 3308 02:59:47.200 --> 02:59:48.440 with then our rights to do it, as I'm sure 3309 02:59:48.440 --> 02:59:51.680 your honor will appreciate, however, because we're just so interested 3310 02:59:51.760 --> 02:59:55.559 in justice being served here and vicious being served. 3311 02:59:55.280 --> 03:00:00.639 Here and psycho being served. Yeah, I think you say 3312 03:00:00.680 --> 03:00:03.360 that again. So yes, this is and I just want 3313 03:00:03.360 --> 03:00:06.079 to say, also your in response the allegations contained in 3314 03:00:06.120 --> 03:00:09.399 paragraph nine, if I have defendants admit that plaintiff seeks 3315 03:00:09.440 --> 03:00:15.719 the damages, stated deny that they have engaged any wrongdoing, 3316 03:00:15.879 --> 03:00:19.559 of course, I mean, Jesus, we do. We admit he 3317 03:00:19.680 --> 03:00:23.799 is seeking damages, he is bringing up a lawsuit. 3318 03:00:24.040 --> 03:00:27.360 We're not too We're not you know, too proud of 3319 03:00:27.440 --> 03:00:30.440 ourselves to admit that. I that if they just said, 3320 03:00:30.520 --> 03:00:34.520 like like a like a number sixty eight defendant admits wrongdoing, 3321 03:00:36.200 --> 03:00:38.200 just put it in there since anyone noticed. 3322 03:00:41.360 --> 03:00:41.600 Of you. 3323 03:00:41.799 --> 03:00:49.840 First, we admit breach a contracts, but we deny that 3324 03:00:49.920 --> 03:00:54.040 the breach of contract had any sufficient evidence and information 3325 03:00:54.239 --> 03:00:59.399 that provide possible, you know, said breach is a proper 3326 03:00:59.600 --> 03:01:03.200 propriet what in your honor? 3327 03:01:05.479 --> 03:01:07.479 It may surprise you to learn that the defense is 3328 03:01:07.559 --> 03:01:10.000 not interested in contesting the claims of mister Udy, that, 3329 03:01:10.520 --> 03:01:12.959 in fact, it was written into the script that he 3330 03:01:13.040 --> 03:01:15.319 take off that metal rope, and that he did, and 3331 03:01:15.440 --> 03:01:16.959 that he was you know, ordered to do it over 3332 03:01:17.000 --> 03:01:19.479 and above his his objections. We're not We're not going 3333 03:01:19.559 --> 03:01:21.360 to dispute that. We will admit that as a fact, 3334 03:01:21.440 --> 03:01:24.479 that he was pushed and pressured into doing it. I 3335 03:01:24.520 --> 03:01:28.680 guess the question, then, your honor becomes, so what right 3336 03:01:28.879 --> 03:01:31.840 what of it as it regards our case? 3337 03:01:32.440 --> 03:01:36.360 You know, we you know, we we deny the allegations 3338 03:01:37.000 --> 03:01:39.319 contained in the paragraphs such and such, But I do 3339 03:01:39.399 --> 03:01:42.000 want to say we do admit that, said you, he 3340 03:01:42.079 --> 03:01:44.959 volunteered to break his own leg I ask you, and 3341 03:01:45.000 --> 03:01:45.319 I asked you. 3342 03:01:45.360 --> 03:01:47.159 I put it that way, your honor, after just saying 3343 03:01:47.200 --> 03:01:50.239 that we pressured him to do it, so to have 3344 03:01:50.360 --> 03:01:51.879 you consider, I think what will come to be the 3345 03:01:51.920 --> 03:01:54.680 most important question in this case. In a world where 3346 03:01:54.719 --> 03:01:58.479 nothing is real, what is the difference between us forcing 3347 03:01:58.559 --> 03:02:00.719 him to do it and him unteering to do it? 3348 03:02:02.280 --> 03:02:05.079 In a world where nothing is real? Can we determine 3349 03:02:05.079 --> 03:02:06.120 what is fake? Right? 3350 03:02:07.079 --> 03:02:23.159 The Lawn Wrestling Podcast, The wrestling podcast that knows the 3351 03:02:23.239 --> 03:02:24.479 boys need their candy. 3352 03:02:25.200 --> 03:02:41.959 It's the lapsed fan. He's the lapsed Fan. 3353 03:02:42.040 --> 03:02:46.280 Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno and JP Soro. 3354 03:02:46.879 --> 03:02:48.799 Have you ever heard the Toronto cell Your honor? 3355 03:02:51.239 --> 03:02:51.360 Now? 3356 03:02:51.440 --> 03:02:54.200 Yeah, he's on the floors late snapped and half yes, yes, yes, 3357 03:02:54.399 --> 03:02:55.959 yes I have And I'm going to put you in 3358 03:02:56.079 --> 03:02:59.639 one in a second. That was good. 3359 03:03:01.559 --> 03:03:03.479 And sure his leg appears to be dangling there on 3360 03:03:03.559 --> 03:03:07.920 the canvas, But these guys are especially good at making 3361 03:03:07.959 --> 03:03:11.040 you believe that they're really hurt, you know. 3362 03:03:11.200 --> 03:03:13.200 I mean I could come in here and tell you 3363 03:03:13.280 --> 03:03:16.239 that I've broken my arm and that I've been stabbed 3364 03:03:16.319 --> 03:03:18.479 five times, and you know what, chances are you wouldn't 3365 03:03:18.479 --> 03:03:19.840 believe it. But if Sid came in here and told 3366 03:03:19.879 --> 03:03:24.040 you the same thing, I think you would. I think 3367 03:03:24.120 --> 03:03:27.319 you would believe it. Whether or not it happened, is imitated. 3368 03:03:27.360 --> 03:03:29.040 So I guess the most important point is when Sid 3369 03:03:29.120 --> 03:03:32.799 wants to claim unjustin Richmond because World Champed Wrestling was 3370 03:03:33.159 --> 03:03:37.239 capitalizing from a ratings perspective by showing the recorded videotape 3371 03:03:37.239 --> 03:03:39.239 of him snapping his leg in half. You have to 3372 03:03:39.280 --> 03:03:41.920 put yourself your honor, I would suggest, in the seat 3373 03:03:41.959 --> 03:03:46.479 of the wrestling fan, the consumer that allegedly is enriching 3374 03:03:46.479 --> 03:03:49.920 World Championship Wrestling by viewing this tape the night after 3375 03:03:50.040 --> 03:03:53.079 the injury, and ask yourself, what is there a chance 3376 03:03:53.120 --> 03:03:54.959 in hell, your honor, part of my language, that that 3377 03:03:55.079 --> 03:03:56.280 fan thinks that injury is real. 3378 03:03:58.520 --> 03:04:00.280 I mean, listen, I'm just going to say this right 3379 03:04:00.280 --> 03:04:04.879 and you know, your honor, we have we have seen 3380 03:04:05.079 --> 03:04:07.840 a multitude of different, you know, different sort of wrestling 3381 03:04:07.840 --> 03:04:10.000 events over the years, you know, especially in the last 3382 03:04:10.799 --> 03:04:13.360 I'm going to say five, five to ten years. You know, 3383 03:04:13.440 --> 03:04:15.680 we've seen an increase of violence in the in the 3384 03:04:16.399 --> 03:04:19.520 in the entertainment world of professional wrestling. And I'm just 3385 03:04:19.600 --> 03:04:22.879 going to say, you know, you got guys who jump 3386 03:04:22.920 --> 03:04:27.399 off twenty foot high cages and go through table. Have 3387 03:04:27.440 --> 03:04:30.319 you seen that clip before? You've seen that footage that man, 3388 03:04:30.680 --> 03:04:32.760 that ugly man with the mask and he's wearing the 3389 03:04:32.840 --> 03:04:33.639 shirt and he gets. 3390 03:04:33.520 --> 03:04:38.799 Tossed off the case counselor and he's wearing a shoe, and. 3391 03:04:38.959 --> 03:04:41.479 You know what, he didn't break a bone in his body. 3392 03:04:42.200 --> 03:04:44.280 Now you're going to tell me that a man who 3393 03:04:44.440 --> 03:04:48.399 was tossed twenty feet down and didn't break a bone 3394 03:04:48.440 --> 03:04:51.200 in his body, and then you have Sid who's jumping 3395 03:04:51.239 --> 03:04:54.360 two feet off the ground and he breaks his leg. 3396 03:04:55.360 --> 03:04:58.200 Come on, I respectfully submit, I mean, your honor. 3397 03:04:58.399 --> 03:05:00.760 They know how to fall. I mean, let me tell you, 3398 03:05:01.600 --> 03:05:03.079 I know for a fact, and I've been that. They 3399 03:05:03.200 --> 03:05:06.239 learn how to fall right. They are trained to fall 3400 03:05:06.399 --> 03:05:07.600 right up the road here in Smyrna. 3401 03:05:08.000 --> 03:05:10.520 They got a big old power plant facility they call it, 3402 03:05:11.000 --> 03:05:13.959 and those guys go in there and they train to 3403 03:05:14.079 --> 03:05:14.879 pretend to get hurt. 3404 03:05:16.000 --> 03:05:24.040 It's right. So I ask you, your honor, what is believability? 3405 03:05:26.239 --> 03:05:32.360 What is truth? Right? What is honor? And what the 3406 03:05:32.440 --> 03:05:33.319 fuck are we doing here? 3407 03:05:34.879 --> 03:05:37.159 He's playing into the judge and not wanting to deal 3408 03:05:37.239 --> 03:05:41.879 with wrestling. I believe he said, among other things. I 3409 03:05:42.000 --> 03:05:44.000 believe he said, and correct me if I'm wrong, Boss 3410 03:05:44.879 --> 03:05:47.719 to the judge in this case, what is honor? 3411 03:05:50.920 --> 03:05:51.680 I mean, isn't that? 3412 03:05:52.879 --> 03:05:55.840 Isn't that where this all starts litigating Sid's injury? 3413 03:05:57.000 --> 03:05:57.159 Yes? 3414 03:05:57.319 --> 03:05:59.520 It does. What is honor right? 3415 03:06:00.159 --> 03:06:04.319 We can agree on that. We're getting nowhere. So again, 3416 03:06:04.559 --> 03:06:06.159 if you don't think Sid's going to come back on 3417 03:06:06.200 --> 03:06:08.239 those point for points with his own point for points, 3418 03:06:08.280 --> 03:06:10.680 you have n't been paying attention exactly. I'll ask you 3419 03:06:10.760 --> 03:06:13.040 to pull up the twenty oh two document that ends 3420 03:06:13.079 --> 03:06:16.159 in response. So what this is, yes, is Sid coming 3421 03:06:16.239 --> 03:06:21.239 back and responding to every single denial the w cd 3422 03:06:21.399 --> 03:06:22.959 we made about the many claims he laid out in 3423 03:06:23.040 --> 03:06:23.920 his initial complaint. 3424 03:06:27.600 --> 03:06:33.639 Comes now, okay, comes now playing if Sydney Rudy here 3425 03:06:33.719 --> 03:06:38.159 after mister g or plaintiff and Files' response to defending 3426 03:06:38.239 --> 03:06:43.600 statement of the theories of recovery? What is a fucking college. 3427 03:06:43.280 --> 03:06:45.840 Class that had been a good name for him in 3428 03:06:45.879 --> 03:06:48.239 Spivey's tag team theories of recovery. 3429 03:06:51.040 --> 03:06:56.520 And the unispeeded material facts showing the course follows theories 3430 03:06:56.559 --> 03:07:00.799 of recovery. Plaineiffs preacher contract claims fail as a matter 3431 03:07:00.879 --> 03:07:05.159 of law because WCW's termination of the independent contractor agreement 3432 03:07:05.239 --> 03:07:10.319 the quote agreement complied with the clear, unambiguous terms of 3433 03:07:10.360 --> 03:07:10.879 the agreement. 3434 03:07:10.959 --> 03:07:14.799 That is a said characterizing WCW's claimed that they were legit. 3435 03:07:14.920 --> 03:07:16.639 So each one of these is going to start with 3436 03:07:16.719 --> 03:07:21.120 him repeating what WCW is claiming and then adding his response, 3437 03:07:21.200 --> 03:07:26.360 which is yes, you can tell when Sid's response starts 3438 03:07:26.399 --> 03:07:27.559 when you're heard the word denied. 3439 03:07:27.840 --> 03:07:31.920 Yeah, right, exactly defend his contact rendered mister Yudie's performance 3440 03:07:31.959 --> 03:07:36.200 of his contractual obligations impossible. Plaint's breach of contract claims 3441 03:07:36.280 --> 03:07:39.760 fail as a matter of law because each of WCW's 3442 03:07:39.799 --> 03:07:44.319 reductions of planets pay complied with the clear on ambiguous 3443 03:07:44.479 --> 03:07:49.879 terms of the agreement. Denied yes defendant his conduct rendered 3444 03:07:50.079 --> 03:07:53.399 mister Yudie's performance of his contractual obligations impossible. 3445 03:07:53.479 --> 03:07:58.840 You made it impossible for me to perform my contractual obligations. 3446 03:07:58.920 --> 03:08:02.479 That's what he is saying. Here's the thing. You want 3447 03:08:02.520 --> 03:08:05.360 me to be obligated. I don't accept obligation, but I'll 3448 03:08:05.399 --> 03:08:07.559 tell you what you denied me obligation. 3449 03:08:09.680 --> 03:08:12.639 How can I perform these obligations if you make performing. 3450 03:08:12.280 --> 03:08:15.639 The denied me obligatory duties. 3451 03:08:17.280 --> 03:08:23.120 You denied obligation, denied me the ability to oblige. 3452 03:08:24.520 --> 03:08:28.440 You denied me the ability to oblige or to not oblige. 3453 03:08:29.959 --> 03:08:33.040 Plaine's breach of contract fails as a matter of law 3454 03:08:33.079 --> 03:08:37.440 because WSW complied with the clear on ambiguous terms of 3455 03:08:37.520 --> 03:08:42.079 the agreement outlining its obligations to pay plaintiff for pay 3456 03:08:42.399 --> 03:08:49.399 per view advance. Denied defenders contract rendered mister Yudi's performance 3457 03:08:49.440 --> 03:08:52.159 of his contractual obligations impossible. 3458 03:08:52.200 --> 03:08:54.959 I'm smelling a denied T shirt in the cy. 3459 03:08:55.360 --> 03:09:01.600 You think so. Plaine's breach of contract claims fail as 3460 03:09:01.639 --> 03:09:04.040 a matter of law because the terms the agreement could 3461 03:09:04.079 --> 03:09:09.840 not orally be amended denied. The agreement was not required 3462 03:09:09.879 --> 03:09:13.159 to be amended. It's specifically provided for further pay per 3463 03:09:13.239 --> 03:09:14.959 views BIS language. 3464 03:09:15.239 --> 03:09:19.879 So he's saying, I don't know what he's saying. It 3465 03:09:19.920 --> 03:09:22.159 doesn't matter that Russo and Bischoff verbal. He told him 3466 03:09:22.200 --> 03:09:23.600 we'll pay you for a pay per view. You don't 3467 03:09:23.639 --> 03:09:26.639 have to work because the contract laid out consideration for 3468 03:09:26.760 --> 03:09:28.840 what happened if they were to add a pay per 3469 03:09:28.920 --> 03:09:31.680 view to the talents and the minimum guarantee. 3470 03:09:33.319 --> 03:09:38.559 Plainiffs claims for breach of figuciary duty, unjust enrichment, negligence, 3471 03:09:39.079 --> 03:09:45.120 negligent infliction of emotional distress, negligent retention, and tortious interference 3472 03:09:45.159 --> 03:09:48.879 with contractual relations fail as a matter of law because 3473 03:09:48.920 --> 03:09:53.520 the plantif agreed to accept workers' compensation coverage as his 3474 03:09:53.719 --> 03:09:58.959 sole and exclusive remedy against WCW, including its affiliates, employees, 3475 03:09:59.040 --> 03:10:03.680 and agents, and for any and all injuries sustained during 3476 03:10:03.760 --> 03:10:04.760 the term of the green. 3477 03:10:04.799 --> 03:10:10.239 Is failure to agree to accept workers Okay, so they're saying, 3478 03:10:11.920 --> 03:10:15.399 if you get workers comp you agree in exchange that 3479 03:10:15.639 --> 03:10:18.079 that is all you can seek from us. If you 3480 03:10:18.159 --> 03:10:21.159 get injured on the job, you can't then sue us 3481 03:10:21.319 --> 03:10:24.440 for more money stemming from that injury. That's what they're 3482 03:10:24.440 --> 03:10:26.840 trying to say. And I wonder if SID would agree 3483 03:10:26.840 --> 03:10:27.000 with that. 3484 03:10:27.120 --> 03:10:34.719 Boss did not. Misteries claims fall with an exception community 3485 03:10:34.920 --> 03:10:36.239 under the gw c A. 3486 03:10:36.680 --> 03:10:40.040 W c A is the Georgia Workers Compensation Association, which 3487 03:10:40.120 --> 03:10:42.079 is now not a union of professional wrestlers. 3488 03:10:42.520 --> 03:10:45.360 I mean, listen, listen, I mean the fact that it's 3489 03:10:45.360 --> 03:10:49.360 called the Workers comp Okay, oh my god, amazing. I mean, 3490 03:10:49.479 --> 03:10:50.000 for what it's worth. 3491 03:10:51.840 --> 03:10:55.280 G w c A is also Georgia Wrestling Coaches Association. 3492 03:10:57.200 --> 03:10:59.920 That's no coincidence, as it also could be the Joy 3493 03:11:00.120 --> 03:11:05.840 Your Wrestling Championships as well. I guess that'd be the 3494 03:11:05.879 --> 03:11:10.239 governing board of Georgia Championship Wrestling Georgia Wrestling Championship Asociations. 3495 03:11:10.280 --> 03:11:12.799 But what he's saying is that there's an exception under 3496 03:11:12.799 --> 03:11:17.159 the state law that governs governs workers Camp that allows 3497 03:11:17.280 --> 03:11:20.639 him to sue for more money even if that clause exists. 3498 03:11:20.319 --> 03:11:23.079 Is to be sick. I can sue if I want to. 3499 03:11:25.079 --> 03:11:30.399 I will take your fucking money because I am it. 3500 03:11:33.200 --> 03:11:36.159 The g w c A sid's favorite law. 3501 03:11:43.319 --> 03:11:45.799 Another word something right now, you look at me dead 3502 03:11:45.799 --> 03:11:48.200 in the eye. I going to you some real simple 3503 03:11:50.159 --> 03:11:55.520 you'll fuck with me? You you'll fuck with the gw. 3504 03:11:55.319 --> 03:11:55.600 C A. 3505 03:11:58.559 --> 03:11:59.280 Sid's promotion. 3506 03:11:59.479 --> 03:12:01.000 The gw that's money. 3507 03:12:01.639 --> 03:12:02.639 People have no idea. 3508 03:12:04.559 --> 03:12:08.120 And he's saying that there's you know that an employer. 3509 03:12:08.719 --> 03:12:11.239 You know they can claim immunity under workers comp per 3510 03:12:11.360 --> 03:12:13.479 the state law, but there are exceptions to that immunity, 3511 03:12:14.000 --> 03:12:16.319 and that what happened to him falls under one of 3512 03:12:16.360 --> 03:12:19.440 those exceptions. So WCW can't cite immunity under the state 3513 03:12:19.520 --> 03:12:20.239 law to further. 3514 03:12:23.319 --> 03:12:27.000 Playing claim for breach of fijiercia duty. That's how we'd 3515 03:12:27.040 --> 03:12:27.280 say it. 3516 03:12:27.360 --> 03:12:28.319 So I'm not going to correct you. 3517 03:12:31.719 --> 03:12:37.280 Unjustin Richmond, negligence, negligent infliction of emotional distress, negligy, retention 3518 03:12:37.719 --> 03:12:42.159 and tortures interference with contractual relations are barred by statutory 3519 03:12:42.280 --> 03:12:49.159 provisions of the Georgia Workers' Compensation Act. Denied. What do 3520 03:12:49.239 --> 03:12:52.559 you know, take another shot? If you're playing along at home, 3521 03:12:54.440 --> 03:12:58.399 mister yes, claims fault within an exception to immunity under 3522 03:12:58.600 --> 03:13:05.479 w E G W G or GCA. Plaintiff's claim for 3523 03:13:05.639 --> 03:13:08.520 unjust in Richmond fails as a matter of law because 3524 03:13:08.559 --> 03:13:13.399 a valid contract existed between plaintiff and WCW denied. 3525 03:13:13.600 --> 03:13:17.680 Do you think he agrees that a valid contract existed 3526 03:13:17.719 --> 03:13:20.680 between plaintiff and WCW. If I know, Sid, that is 3527 03:13:20.760 --> 03:13:21.680 a non starter. 3528 03:13:22.479 --> 03:13:26.200 Now, I don't mind telling you something right now. Then 3529 03:13:26.239 --> 03:13:31.520 when it comes to valid contractual obligations, SID is not 3530 03:13:32.079 --> 03:13:42.959 obligated to abide. I guess he's not. The dude. Defense 3531 03:13:43.000 --> 03:13:47.399 were unjustly enriched by continuous television replay of mister Yudi's 3532 03:13:47.440 --> 03:13:54.559 injury denied. Plainiff claim for unjust in Richmond fails as 3533 03:13:54.600 --> 03:13:58.280 a matter of law because the undisputed facts show that 3534 03:13:58.440 --> 03:14:01.200 defendants were not und just The and rich as a 3535 03:14:01.239 --> 03:14:08.719 result of plaintiff's injury denied defendants were unjustly enriched by 3536 03:14:08.840 --> 03:14:13.520 continuous television replays of mister UD's injury and use of 3537 03:14:13.719 --> 03:14:18.040 the leg breaker storyline. The leg breaker storyline, Yes, indeed, 3538 03:14:18.280 --> 03:14:22.680 whoa brother? What here was leg breaker? What's going on? Dude? 3539 03:14:22.799 --> 03:14:26.280 They would go on take breaker claim breaking? You're breaking 3540 03:14:26.360 --> 03:14:33.040 Hulk Hogan's leg. No, I got leg drop, dude, whose 3541 03:14:33.120 --> 03:14:34.319 leg matters more? 3542 03:14:34.399 --> 03:14:36.440 I'm a little sick of people twisting my leg At 3543 03:14:36.440 --> 03:14:37.760 this point, brother, I might as well broke. 3544 03:14:37.840 --> 03:14:42.319 I'm probably understanding exactly why I'm getting sued, right, that's 3545 03:14:42.360 --> 03:14:46.479 a great question. Why am I getting sued by Sid? Brother? 3546 03:14:46.680 --> 03:14:50.040 If you're curious, the leg breaker storyline was basically they 3547 03:14:50.079 --> 03:14:52.399 did this like really ham fisted thing where Scott Steiner 3548 03:14:52.479 --> 03:14:55.479 after Sinn would claim that somehow he was responsible for 3549 03:14:55.559 --> 03:14:59.440 breaking Sid's leg in the match, which is hilarious because 3550 03:14:59.440 --> 03:14:59.879 it doesn't do. 3551 03:15:00.040 --> 03:15:02.879 When he fucking like uh uh, get it all, like 3552 03:15:03.000 --> 03:15:04.760 ready to go, and then he jumped. 3553 03:15:04.879 --> 03:15:08.120 Right, I guess somehow when Sid kicked him, the power 3554 03:15:08.159 --> 03:15:10.959 of Scott Steiner exploded on his leg and shattered his bones. 3555 03:15:10.959 --> 03:15:18.280 I don't know. Ridiculous plainest claims for breach of fiduciary duty, negligence, 3556 03:15:18.520 --> 03:15:23.840 negligien and fiction of emotional distress, negligent retention, tortures, interference 3557 03:15:23.879 --> 03:15:27.319 with contractual relations all fail as a matter of law 3558 03:15:27.399 --> 03:15:31.440 because they are precluded by a doctrine of assumption of risk. 3559 03:15:31.680 --> 03:15:32.840 Can we try something, bosses? 3560 03:15:32.840 --> 03:15:33.719 We go through this? When? When? 3561 03:15:34.079 --> 03:15:36.799 When you read the part where SID is characterizing w 3562 03:15:36.959 --> 03:15:40.639 CW's position on the matter. Yes, this is a challenge. 3563 03:15:40.639 --> 03:15:42.239 I don't think I've ever asked you to do this before. 3564 03:15:42.959 --> 03:15:47.479 Can you do SID making fun of w CW's lawyer. 3565 03:15:47.399 --> 03:15:50.399 In that god like you know? 3566 03:15:51.040 --> 03:15:54.200 And then the denied is in Sid's voice, So people 3567 03:15:54.239 --> 03:15:55.760 can more clearly delineate at home. 3568 03:15:56.079 --> 03:15:59.159 All right, let me do plain is claim for breach 3569 03:15:59.239 --> 03:16:04.159 of fiduciary deity, negligence, negligent and infliction of emotional distress, 3570 03:16:04.600 --> 03:16:10.200 negligent retention, tortures, interference with contractual relations all fail as 3571 03:16:10.239 --> 03:16:12.920 a matter of law because they're precluded by the doctrine 3572 03:16:12.920 --> 03:16:14.040 of the assumption of risk. 3573 03:16:15.680 --> 03:16:20.000 Did not Yes, mister Uty's claims are not subject to 3574 03:16:20.000 --> 03:16:25.959 the assumption of risk doctrine d towsw's will for action. Wow. Moreover, 3575 03:16:26.319 --> 03:16:29.440 mister Uti did not assume that his leg would be 3576 03:16:29.559 --> 03:16:35.600 broken in half destructions of defendants. Can I ask you 3577 03:16:35.680 --> 03:16:40.399 to read that again? Please? Yes? Indeed, moreover, mister Uty 3578 03:16:40.520 --> 03:16:43.440 did not assume that his leg would be broken in 3579 03:16:43.559 --> 03:16:46.520 half as a result of the instructions by defendants. 3580 03:16:46.879 --> 03:16:52.479 So like, don't come in, don't come and claim that 3581 03:16:53.200 --> 03:16:55.719 the doctrine of assumption of risk that's contained in the 3582 03:16:55.799 --> 03:16:57.799 document in the law covers this. 3583 03:16:58.040 --> 03:17:00.840 Because now I don't know which doctrine you're talking about. 3584 03:17:01.120 --> 03:17:03.079 But I talk to doctor Drews. 3585 03:17:03.920 --> 03:17:05.879 I know I assume risk when I go out there 3586 03:17:05.920 --> 03:17:07.840 every night. I know I assume risk, and I know 3587 03:17:07.920 --> 03:17:10.520 the contract says I assume risk. But I ask you, this, 3588 03:17:11.200 --> 03:17:14.239 does the risk conclude snapping my leg in half? 3589 03:17:16.520 --> 03:17:21.200 I assume risk. I assume all sorts of things when 3590 03:17:21.200 --> 03:17:23.319 I go out there in the ring, But I do 3591 03:17:23.520 --> 03:17:25.879 not assume to know the future. 3592 03:17:26.159 --> 03:17:30.840 Right, And that's what you're claiming that that's among the 3593 03:17:30.920 --> 03:17:31.719 risks I assume. 3594 03:17:32.920 --> 03:17:36.520 So I do not assume that I will come back dead. 3595 03:17:39.719 --> 03:17:42.360 Yeah, that's now we're falling into the own heart lawsuit territory. 3596 03:17:42.959 --> 03:17:47.840 Unable to contribute and support my family right, unable to 3597 03:17:48.000 --> 03:17:51.920 go to sporting events in order to talk down to 3598 03:17:52.000 --> 03:17:57.040 my dumb ass son. What do you think I assume? 3599 03:17:58.520 --> 03:18:00.360 Do you think I Do you think I assume the 3600 03:18:00.440 --> 03:18:02.120 risk of a garage full of viennas? 3601 03:18:03.920 --> 03:18:07.959 You think I go home assuming that Frank hasn't delivered 3602 03:18:08.000 --> 03:18:11.239 the venus to the cathedral, He. 3603 03:18:11.319 --> 03:18:14.559 Said, my church to Casey Vienna sausages and I sent 3604 03:18:14.639 --> 03:18:17.520 him an autograph picture picture. 3605 03:18:18.760 --> 03:18:21.559 Yeah, someone was very e T C H E R. 3606 03:18:21.719 --> 03:18:23.920 Somebody pointing that out on Patreon, and it's very clear, 3607 03:18:24.600 --> 03:18:27.639 it's very keen of an observation. I'll tell you what 3608 03:18:27.719 --> 03:18:30.799 I'll I'll jump in here as i'll read ww's position 3609 03:18:30.959 --> 03:18:33.479 could be funny, I have said response to a different voice, 3610 03:18:34.520 --> 03:18:37.360 all right, number ten here. Plaintiff's claim for breach of 3611 03:18:37.479 --> 03:18:40.799 fiduciary duty fails as a matter of law because the 3612 03:18:40.920 --> 03:18:45.799 record is undisputed that no fiduciary relationship existed between plaintiff 3613 03:18:45.840 --> 03:18:46.719 and any defendant. 3614 03:18:48.879 --> 03:18:56.920 Good a confidential relationship existed between WCW and mister duty, 3615 03:18:57.120 --> 03:19:01.559 and therefore w CW oed mystery fier duties. 3616 03:19:02.000 --> 03:19:05.920 Plaintiff's claims for negligence fails as a matter of law 3617 03:19:06.000 --> 03:19:08.879 because none of the defendants owed any legal duty to 3618 03:19:08.959 --> 03:19:10.040 the plaintiff. 3619 03:19:11.600 --> 03:19:17.239 Dend w c W had a legal duty to maintain 3620 03:19:17.280 --> 03:19:18.719 a safe work environment. 3621 03:19:19.159 --> 03:19:22.639 Plaintiff's claims for negligence fails as a matter of law 3622 03:19:22.680 --> 03:19:26.879 because plaintiff cannot establish that any defendant breached any duty 3623 03:19:27.120 --> 03:19:30.280 owed to plaintiff, or that any alleged breach by any 3624 03:19:30.319 --> 03:19:34.520 defendant proximately caused plaintiff's injury denied. 3625 03:19:35.799 --> 03:19:38.360 W c W had a legal duty to maintain a 3626 03:19:38.520 --> 03:19:42.600 safe work environment, and a breach of this duty caused 3627 03:19:42.879 --> 03:19:44.680 mister beauty damage. 3628 03:19:45.959 --> 03:19:49.760 Plaintiff's claim for negligent infliction of emotional distress fails as 3629 03:19:49.840 --> 03:19:53.120 a matter of law because Plaintiff's injuries were not caused 3630 03:19:53.239 --> 03:19:55.559 by a negligent act of any defendant. 3631 03:19:56.680 --> 03:20:01.239 Denied, Mister Ute's injury was caused b the negligent acts 3632 03:20:01.520 --> 03:20:03.399 of w CW's agents. 3633 03:20:05.239 --> 03:20:08.280 Plaintiff's claim for negligent retention fails as a matter of 3634 03:20:08.360 --> 03:20:11.639 law because defendant Laurionitis had no propensity to engage in 3635 03:20:11.799 --> 03:20:13.799 dangerous or tortious conduct. 3636 03:20:16.040 --> 03:20:16.520 To god. 3637 03:20:16.959 --> 03:20:19.959 Plaintiff's claim for negligent retention fails as a matter of 3638 03:20:20.040 --> 03:20:24.920 law because neither WCWTSI nor teg knew that defendant Laurionitis 3639 03:20:24.920 --> 03:20:30.559 had any alleged dangerous propensity. Plaintiff's claims for tortious interference 3640 03:20:30.600 --> 03:20:33.840 with contractual relations fails as a matter of law because 3641 03:20:33.879 --> 03:20:37.719 defendant Lauranitis did not intend to injure plaintiff or plaintiff's 3642 03:20:37.719 --> 03:20:43.719 relationship with WCW. Plaintiff's claims for tortious interference with contractual 3643 03:20:43.760 --> 03:20:46.600 relations fails as a matter of law because neither defendant 3644 03:20:46.719 --> 03:20:51.920 Laurionitis not any other defendant induced a third party not 3645 03:20:52.079 --> 03:20:55.079 to enter or contecty business relationship. 3646 03:20:54.559 --> 03:20:56.120 With no what I do? You know what I can 3647 03:20:56.159 --> 03:20:59.280 tell you right now. I wish not induced. I wash 3648 03:20:59.319 --> 03:21:00.799 not induced by either defendant. 3649 03:21:01.559 --> 03:21:04.079 I was not john naturally. 3650 03:21:05.719 --> 03:21:09.319 I was not induced. I gave birth to Tyrrell and 3651 03:21:09.559 --> 03:21:14.520 not on a natural basis. Third month, third party, third year. 3652 03:21:15.200 --> 03:21:16.319 Were you a C section baby? 3653 03:21:16.399 --> 03:21:24.959 No, I was delivered on a natural basis, in while 3654 03:21:25.040 --> 03:21:27.680 Jesse was delivered on army basis. 3655 03:21:30.200 --> 03:21:32.280 He toured army basis, all right. 3656 03:21:32.479 --> 03:21:36.399 In a related note, that one's denied too, if you're 3657 03:21:36.440 --> 03:21:40.639 wondering denied, Plaintiff's claim for tortous interference with contractual relations 3658 03:21:40.719 --> 03:21:42.959 fails as a matter of law because defendant Lorinitis was 3659 03:21:43.040 --> 03:21:46.680 not a stranger to the contract quote unquote between plaintiff 3660 03:21:46.680 --> 03:21:51.360 and WCW. Batiff's claims against defendant Lorinitis for alleged breach 3661 03:21:51.440 --> 03:21:55.120 of fiduciary duty, negligence, negligent and infliction of emotional distress 3662 03:21:55.360 --> 03:21:59.319 and tortuous interference with contractual relations are barred by the 3663 03:21:59.399 --> 03:22:03.239 two years statute of limitations set forth in the OCGA. 3664 03:22:03.280 --> 03:22:07.479 Tonight, the minute complaint relates back to the original complaint, 3665 03:22:07.719 --> 03:22:11.639 which was filed within the statutory period. 3666 03:22:11.719 --> 03:22:14.719 All right, fine, how about we state undisputed material facts? 3667 03:22:15.200 --> 03:22:17.600 How about number one? Plaintiff, Sidney r Uti, is a 3668 03:22:17.639 --> 03:22:22.879 professional wrestler who is professionally known as Sid Vicious. Admitting 3669 03:22:23.319 --> 03:22:28.479 defendant Johnny Lorinidis is a former employee of WCW. Admitted 3670 03:22:28.680 --> 03:22:32.440 at all times relevant to Plaintiff's claims, Laurionidis worked with 3671 03:22:32.600 --> 03:22:35.879 WCW's wrestlers and agents to plan and coordinate the moves 3672 03:22:35.920 --> 03:22:37.520 of WCW's wrestlers in matches. 3673 03:22:38.479 --> 03:22:39.559 Admitted honor. 3674 03:22:39.559 --> 03:22:42.719 About June ninth, nineteen ninety nine, WCWAN plaintiff entered into 3675 03:22:42.719 --> 03:22:45.760 an agreement entitled Independent Contractor Agreement. 3676 03:22:48.520 --> 03:22:49.000 Admitted. 3677 03:22:49.159 --> 03:22:52.559 Under the terms of the agreement, Plaintiff expressly agreed that 3678 03:22:52.639 --> 03:22:56.239 he would perform the services agreed to as an independent contractor. 3679 03:22:57.200 --> 03:22:59.559 Admitting the agreement speaks for itself. 3680 03:23:00.159 --> 03:23:02.479 The term of the agreement was for three years, unless 3681 03:23:02.520 --> 03:23:05.319 earlier terminated. In accordance with the terms of the contract, 3682 03:23:05.719 --> 03:23:09.040 the term was divided into consecutive one year periods. 3683 03:23:09.879 --> 03:23:13.280 Admitted the agreement speaks for itself. 3684 03:23:13.360 --> 03:23:17.079 The agreement expressly provided the WCW had the right to 3685 03:23:17.239 --> 03:23:19.360 terminate the agreement at the end of any one year 3686 03:23:19.399 --> 03:23:22.399 period for any reason. Let me read you the excerpt 3687 03:23:22.479 --> 03:23:26.000 from the agreement. During any one year period, WCW may 3688 03:23:26.079 --> 03:23:31.000 terminate this agreement with or without cause, after giving wrestler 3689 03:23:31.040 --> 03:23:34.440 at least three months prior notice of such termination. Any 3690 03:23:34.520 --> 03:23:36.719 such termination shall be effective at the end of the 3691 03:23:36.760 --> 03:23:38.079 then current one year period. 3692 03:23:39.600 --> 03:23:42.200 Admitted the agreement speaks for self. 3693 03:23:42.239 --> 03:23:45.719 Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Plaintiff's compensation under the agreement 3694 03:23:45.799 --> 03:23:47.600 was set forth an Exhibit A to the agreement. 3695 03:23:48.440 --> 03:23:50.399 Admitted the agreement speaks fortune. 3696 03:23:50.399 --> 03:23:53.159 In addition to plaintiff's salary amounts, Exhibit A provided the 3697 03:23:53.319 --> 03:23:56.079 WCW would pay plaintiff a bonus each time he appeared 3698 03:23:56.120 --> 03:23:59.479 and performed on air at any WCW pay per view event. 3699 03:24:00.399 --> 03:24:02.840 Admitted, agreement speaks for self. 3700 03:24:02.959 --> 03:24:05.760 Plaintiff's pay per view bonus was fifty thousand dollars per 3701 03:24:05.840 --> 03:24:07.280 pay per view event for the first year of the 3702 03:24:07.319 --> 03:24:10.040 agreement and fifty five thousand dollars per pay per view 3703 03:24:10.079 --> 03:24:12.120 event for the second year of the agreement. 3704 03:24:12.799 --> 03:24:14.840 Admitted agreement speaks. 3705 03:24:14.520 --> 03:24:17.399 For self admitted a exhibit A to the agreement there 3706 03:24:17.479 --> 03:24:21.520 was a slip of the tongue. Admitted A admitted exhibit 3707 03:24:21.559 --> 03:24:25.079 A to the agreement also provided that plaintiff would be 3708 03:24:25.079 --> 03:24:27.040 paid for a minimum of eight pay per view events 3709 03:24:27.040 --> 03:24:27.920 per contractual year. 3710 03:24:28.879 --> 03:24:31.239 Admitted agreement speaks for self. 3711 03:24:31.399 --> 03:24:34.319 Under the terms of the agreement, if plaintiff became incapacitated 3712 03:24:34.399 --> 03:24:36.280 such that he was unable to perform all of the 3713 03:24:36.319 --> 03:24:40.200 physical requirements of a professional wrestler, he would continue to 3714 03:24:40.280 --> 03:24:43.840 receive his full compensation for the first cumulative thirty calendar 3715 03:24:43.959 --> 03:24:46.440 days of incapacity per contract year. 3716 03:24:48.079 --> 03:24:51.159 Admitted agreement. Space Force agreement. 3717 03:24:50.840 --> 03:24:54.639 Further provides if wrestler remains incapacitated after the initial thirty 3718 03:24:54.719 --> 03:25:00.799 day incapacity period, whether consecutive or not, w UCW shall 3719 03:25:00.840 --> 03:25:03.799 have the option at any point during which wrestler thereafter 3720 03:25:03.920 --> 03:25:08.280 remains incapacitated to terminate this agreement without further obligation. 3721 03:25:09.680 --> 03:25:12.159 Admitted the agreement speaks. 3722 03:25:11.840 --> 03:25:15.159 Forselfs If plaintiff remained incapacitated after the initial thirty day 3723 03:25:15.159 --> 03:25:19.559 in capacity period, in WCW elected not to terminate the agreement, 3724 03:25:19.760 --> 03:25:23.040 WCW agreed to the following pay schedule. Here it is 3725 03:25:23.639 --> 03:25:27.239 unless and until WCW shall exercise such right to terminate 3726 03:25:27.280 --> 03:25:29.799 this agreement on the basis of incapacity. WCW sshall A 3727 03:25:30.440 --> 03:25:32.719 continue to pay wrestler under this agreement at the rate 3728 03:25:32.799 --> 03:25:35.040 of one third, that is, thirty three point three percent 3729 03:25:35.799 --> 03:25:39.559 of the compensation otherwise payable here under. Or B utilize 3730 03:25:39.559 --> 03:25:42.600 wrestler for non wrestling services and pay wrestler at the 3731 03:25:42.680 --> 03:25:45.920 rate of one half fifty percent of the compensation otherwise 3732 03:25:45.959 --> 03:25:49.559 payable here under. Wrestler's ability to perform non wrestling services 3733 03:25:49.639 --> 03:25:53.079 shall be determined by WCW. While wrestler is being paid 3734 03:25:53.159 --> 03:25:56.479 pursuant to either A or B, all other terms of 3735 03:25:56.559 --> 03:25:58.319 this agreement shall remain in full force. 3736 03:25:59.239 --> 03:26:01.280 Agreement speaks for self. 3737 03:26:01.239 --> 03:26:03.639 Under the terms of the agreement, Plane INVOLVESO agreed to 3738 03:26:03.719 --> 03:26:07.760 accept workers compensation benefits as his sole and exclusive remedy 3739 03:26:08.000 --> 03:26:11.799 against WCW for any and all injuries he sustained during 3740 03:26:11.840 --> 03:26:14.959 the term of the agreement. Quote. Wrestler acknowledges his present 3741 03:26:15.000 --> 03:26:18.879 eligibility for workers compensation through WCW for so long as 3742 03:26:19.040 --> 03:26:23.280 WCW maintains workers compensation coverage wrestler agrees to accept the 3743 03:26:23.360 --> 03:26:27.600 benefits provided by said workers compensation coverage as his sole 3744 03:26:27.840 --> 03:26:32.520 and exclusive remedy against WCW, including its parent affiliates, employees, 3745 03:26:32.559 --> 03:26:36.600 and agents, for any and all injuries sustained during the term, 3746 03:26:36.680 --> 03:26:40.040 provided said coverage is maintained by WCW. That is an 3747 03:26:40.040 --> 03:26:41.840 effect with respect to such injury. 3748 03:26:42.879 --> 03:26:45.399 I mean the agreement speaks for self. 3749 03:26:45.440 --> 03:26:48.120 The agreement provided that it could not be orally modified. 3750 03:26:48.239 --> 03:26:48.559 Quote. 3751 03:26:48.959 --> 03:26:52.520 No waiver, termination or discharge of this agreement, or any 3752 03:26:52.600 --> 03:26:55.799 of the terms or provision thereof, shall be binding upon 3753 03:26:55.879 --> 03:26:59.479 either party here too. Unless confirmed in writing, this agreement 3754 03:26:59.559 --> 03:27:02.680 may not be modified or amended except by a writing 3755 03:27:03.319 --> 03:27:04.600 executed by both parties. 3756 03:27:06.200 --> 03:27:08.600 Admitted that Greenman speaks for sale. 3757 03:27:08.680 --> 03:27:11.719 During this period June ninth, nineteen ninety nine through March eighteenth, 3758 03:27:11.719 --> 03:27:15.120 two thousand, plaintiff performed as a professional wrestler for WCW, 3759 03:27:15.479 --> 03:27:18.239 and WCW paid him the full compensation set forth in 3760 03:27:18.280 --> 03:27:25.079 the agreement. Admitted admitted he thought her about March nineteenth, 3761 03:27:25.120 --> 03:27:28.559 two thousand, plaintiffs strained the rotator cuff and his shoulder 3762 03:27:29.680 --> 03:27:31.559 during a pay per view match in Miami, Florida. 3763 03:27:31.639 --> 03:27:35.840 That's new admitted, mister U suffered a shoulder injury as 3764 03:27:35.879 --> 03:27:38.399 a result of WCW's actions. Did you have to add 3765 03:27:38.440 --> 03:27:41.440 that at the end, sir? Could you just admit it? 3766 03:27:41.559 --> 03:27:48.000 Tell I admit that they denied me. They admit they 3767 03:27:48.079 --> 03:27:48.639 denied me. 3768 03:27:48.799 --> 03:27:57.840 Health wrongfully, right wrongfully denied me health. During the period 3769 03:27:57.920 --> 03:28:02.120 March nineteenth, two thousand April tenth, two thousand, w CW 3770 03:28:02.319 --> 03:28:05.200 paid plaintiff one hundred percent of the compensation payable to 3771 03:28:05.319 --> 03:28:09.159 him under the agreement. During an April tenth, two thousand 3772 03:28:09.200 --> 03:28:12.000 performance at a wrestling event in Denver, Colorado, plaintiff injured 3773 03:28:12.040 --> 03:28:14.600 his neck and back when he allowed his opponent to 3774 03:28:14.680 --> 03:28:17.200 throw him through a table at the conclusion of the performance. 3775 03:28:18.000 --> 03:28:21.879 Allowed allowed, Oh yes, yeah, we didn't want to. We 3776 03:28:21.879 --> 03:28:24.239 wouldn't want to indicate for a second that it's real. 3777 03:28:24.319 --> 03:28:28.360 In this filing, mister Udy admitss it he suffered an injury, 3778 03:28:28.799 --> 03:28:33.200 but he was forced to wrestle by w CW's agents and. 3779 03:28:33.360 --> 03:28:37.840 Shun now about that. I admit I suffered an injury, 3780 03:28:37.879 --> 03:28:39.040 but I was forced to wrestle. 3781 03:28:39.799 --> 03:28:40.520 It's so funny. 3782 03:28:40.520 --> 03:28:43.959 Anytime Sid complains about an injury, just know that he's 3783 03:28:44.000 --> 03:28:46.959 more than willing to wrestle hurt, but he's not above 3784 03:28:47.360 --> 03:28:48.879 saying you made me wrestle when I was hurt. 3785 03:28:48.920 --> 03:28:51.239 After Yeah, right, listen, listen, he'll do it. And then 3786 03:28:51.639 --> 03:28:54.399 if anything bad happens and you fuck him over in 3787 03:28:54.440 --> 03:28:56.479 any way or he thinks you fucked him over, you 3788 03:28:56.520 --> 03:28:57.360 know it's your fault. 3789 03:28:57.440 --> 03:29:00.000 And as a result of this April ten, two thousand 3790 03:29:00.079 --> 03:29:03.680 and shoulder injury, plaintiff became incapacitated and wasn't able to 3791 03:29:03.760 --> 03:29:06.399 perform any wrestling services for WCW. 3792 03:29:06.719 --> 03:29:10.399 Admitted mister gud suffered his shoulder injury at the insistence 3793 03:29:10.440 --> 03:29:11.680 of ww's agents. 3794 03:29:12.079 --> 03:29:14.159 Okay, he said he suffered the shoulder injury at the 3795 03:29:14.200 --> 03:29:17.559 insistence of ww's agents, who I guess stood around and said, 3796 03:29:17.639 --> 03:29:19.280 suffer a shoulder injury, sir. 3797 03:29:20.000 --> 03:29:21.479 Now I went back there and they say, you know 3798 03:29:21.559 --> 03:29:23.520 what if you get out, if you walk out of 3799 03:29:23.559 --> 03:29:26.639 that arena and you don't have a shoulder injury, you're 3800 03:29:26.719 --> 03:29:27.440 fucking fined. 3801 03:29:28.719 --> 03:29:30.399 I want to see a shoulder injured now. 3802 03:29:33.680 --> 03:29:37.360 Now, you got to injury that fucking shoulder. Waiting, pal, 3803 03:29:38.159 --> 03:29:39.680 I'm still waiting for you to injury yourself. 3804 03:29:40.280 --> 03:29:40.719 I'll get it. 3805 03:29:40.840 --> 03:29:43.200 Trust me, it's hot it's an hour day or later, 3806 03:29:43.280 --> 03:29:47.360 but I'm gonna get you injured sid. WCW continued to 3807 03:29:47.360 --> 03:29:50.239 pay plaintiff one hundred percent of his compensation for the 3808 03:29:50.319 --> 03:29:53.319 first thirty calendar days that plaintiff was incapacitated as a 3809 03:29:53.360 --> 03:29:55.319 result of the shoulder entry he suffered during the Denver 3810 03:29:55.399 --> 03:29:56.959 pay per view. It wasn't a pay per view, but 3811 03:29:57.200 --> 03:30:01.120 SID nonetheless at or in the period May eleventh, two 3812 03:30:01.120 --> 03:30:04.079 thousand through June eighth, two thousand, WCW used plaintiff for 3813 03:30:04.159 --> 03:30:06.440 non wrestling services and paid him at the contractually agreed 3814 03:30:06.479 --> 03:30:09.760 upon fifty percent of the compensation payable to him under 3815 03:30:09.760 --> 03:30:10.159 the agreement. 3816 03:30:11.120 --> 03:30:14.719 Mister Edi missed the pay was wrongfully reduced to fifty 3817 03:30:15.159 --> 03:30:20.040 during this time What does he admit again? Mister Yudi 3818 03:30:20.159 --> 03:30:24.440 admits that his pay was wrongfully reduced to fifty percent 3819 03:30:24.639 --> 03:30:25.479 during this time. 3820 03:30:25.360 --> 03:30:31.200 Period in accordance with paragraphs fully reduced. You're cutting out 3821 03:30:31.239 --> 03:30:32.120 over and over again. 3822 03:30:32.680 --> 03:30:35.159 Oh, wrongfully reduced. 3823 03:30:37.280 --> 03:30:39.760 In accordance with paragraph eight of the agreement. During the 3824 03:30:39.799 --> 03:30:42.520 period June ninth, two thousand through July eighth, two thousand, 3825 03:30:43.040 --> 03:30:46.559 WCW paid plaintiff one of the compensation payable to him 3826 03:30:46.600 --> 03:30:49.920 under the agreement. During the period June ninth, two thousand 3827 03:30:49.959 --> 03:30:52.120 through July eight, two thousand, w wu's plaintiff for non 3828 03:30:52.120 --> 03:30:53.360 wrestling services only. 3829 03:30:56.399 --> 03:30:56.719 Did not. 3830 03:30:58.680 --> 03:31:02.239 Mister Yu's pay was wrongfully reduced to fifty percent during 3831 03:31:02.280 --> 03:31:03.479 this period time period. 3832 03:31:04.040 --> 03:31:06.520 In December of two thousand, plaintiff's doctor cleared him to 3833 03:31:06.520 --> 03:31:07.799 resume full wrestling services. 3834 03:31:09.879 --> 03:31:10.719 Admitted okay. 3835 03:31:11.040 --> 03:31:14.520 In December two thousand, plaintiff resumed full wrestling services under 3836 03:31:14.520 --> 03:31:16.639 the agreement and his salary was fully restored. 3837 03:31:18.600 --> 03:31:19.079 Admitted. 3838 03:31:19.280 --> 03:31:21.520 On January fourteen, two thousand and one, plaintiff performed a 3839 03:31:21.559 --> 03:31:26.319 pay per view performance in Indianapolis, Indiana. Admitted, in preparing 3840 03:31:26.399 --> 03:31:29.159 for the January fourteen, two thousand and one performance of Laurentidis, 3841 03:31:29.440 --> 03:31:34.879 plaintiff voluntarily agreed to perform a move that required him 3842 03:31:34.879 --> 03:31:36.879 to jump off the second rope surrounding the wrestling ring 3843 03:31:36.920 --> 03:31:38.440 and kick one of his opponents in the face. 3844 03:31:39.879 --> 03:31:43.440 Mister Uty admits that he was forced to perform move 3845 03:31:43.799 --> 03:31:48.159 by wsw's agent, including by not limited to mister Lauraidis. 3846 03:31:48.319 --> 03:31:51.040 When plaintiff performed the move during the match on January fourteen, 3847 03:31:51.040 --> 03:31:53.559 two thousand and one, plaintiff did not kick his opponent 3848 03:31:53.600 --> 03:31:55.639 and plaintiff landed on the canvas on his left leg. 3849 03:31:56.879 --> 03:32:01.479 Mister Udy admits he performed move and that mister Steiner 3850 03:32:01.879 --> 03:32:04.959 was not where he was supposed to be. Mister udi 3851 03:32:05.040 --> 03:32:07.559 ad missed it. He fell on his left heel. 3852 03:32:07.719 --> 03:32:10.319 So this is this is indicating the WW is prepared 3853 03:32:10.360 --> 03:32:13.120 to argue boss that yes, we had him do the move, 3854 03:32:13.479 --> 03:32:15.920 but it's his fault that he landed on his leg, 3855 03:32:16.040 --> 03:32:16.479 not ours. 3856 03:32:17.719 --> 03:32:19.799 Well, I mean, well, hold on, but it says up 3857 03:32:19.840 --> 03:32:23.959 there that he voluntarily did it. He voluntarily agreed to 3858 03:32:24.040 --> 03:32:27.159 perform the move, right, And then he's saying he's forced 3859 03:32:27.200 --> 03:32:28.600 to perform the move and it's. 3860 03:32:28.479 --> 03:32:30.680 Not our fault that said that Scott Steiner was out 3861 03:32:30.680 --> 03:32:32.479 of position, because if Scott Steiner was standing where he 3862 03:32:32.479 --> 03:32:35.120 was supposed to stand, then said wouldn't have suffered this 3863 03:32:35.319 --> 03:32:39.799 injury performing the move that we demanded he'd perform, right, 3864 03:32:39.920 --> 03:32:43.719 I mean, why is everybody c WCW's perspective in all 3865 03:32:43.799 --> 03:32:49.639 this right amazing? Okay, Yeah, and mister Steiner was not 3866 03:32:49.680 --> 03:32:51.399 really needed to be. As a result of the fall, 3867 03:32:51.520 --> 03:32:54.319 plaintiff suffered a double compound fracture of his left leg, 3868 03:32:55.159 --> 03:32:58.760 admitting this injury occurred incurred by plaintiff at the general 3869 03:32:58.799 --> 03:33:01.479 pay per view render him makapacitated and unable to wrestle. 3870 03:33:02.200 --> 03:33:05.399 Mister Edia admits and leg injury made it impossible for 3871 03:33:05.559 --> 03:33:09.319 him to wrestle professionally, and that WCW deemed him incapacitive. 3872 03:33:12.040 --> 03:33:14.680 I could not wrestle professionally, but I will not accept 3873 03:33:14.760 --> 03:33:18.079 that that means I was incapacitated. As the result of 3874 03:33:18.120 --> 03:33:22.719 plaintiff's incapacity, WCW reduced Plaintiff's compensation to fifty percent of 3875 03:33:22.760 --> 03:33:25.079 the compensation payable to him under the agreement as of 3876 03:33:25.159 --> 03:33:26.440 January fifteen, two thousand and one. 3877 03:33:27.319 --> 03:33:31.079 Mister Udi admits that his pay was wrongfully reduced to 3878 03:33:31.200 --> 03:33:34.040 fifty percent the day after he performed the move at 3879 03:33:34.079 --> 03:33:35.719 the behest of w CW. 3880 03:33:36.040 --> 03:33:38.520 On March first, two thousand and one, Diana Meyers, ww's 3881 03:33:38.559 --> 03:33:41.280 director of Legal and Business Affairs spoke with plaintiff on 3882 03:33:41.319 --> 03:33:44.319 the phone and informed him that WCW was exercising its 3883 03:33:44.360 --> 03:33:47.040 options under section eight B of the agreement to terminate 3884 03:33:47.079 --> 03:33:50.639 plaintiff's contract effective June eight, two thousand and one. Admitted 3885 03:33:50.719 --> 03:33:52.680 on March first, two thousand and one, Miss Meyers sent 3886 03:33:52.760 --> 03:33:56.520 to plaintiff via federal express written confirmation that WW was 3887 03:33:56.559 --> 03:33:58.760 exercising its option under Section eight B of the agreement 3888 03:33:58.840 --> 03:34:03.000 to terminate plaintiff's contract at maww's contermination was effective as 3889 03:34:03.040 --> 03:34:05.000 of June eighth, two thousand and one, more than three 3890 03:34:05.040 --> 03:34:06.879 months after the date of the written notice, and at 3891 03:34:06.879 --> 03:34:08.920 the end of the second year of the agreement. 3892 03:34:09.360 --> 03:34:12.000 At may to receive no wait no wait. So if 3893 03:34:12.040 --> 03:34:15.239 it's effective after the company goes under, is it still 3894 03:34:15.319 --> 03:34:16.440 an effect? Yeah? 3895 03:34:16.440 --> 03:34:19.000 I mean because UWC is formed to continue the business 3896 03:34:19.040 --> 03:34:23.760 affairs of WCW. So yeah, any contracts WW doesn't buy 3897 03:34:24.280 --> 03:34:26.479 remain on the books of UWC, and it's up to 3898 03:34:26.520 --> 03:34:28.440 them to deal with and resolve one way or the other. 3899 03:34:29.040 --> 03:34:29.399 I see. 3900 03:34:30.159 --> 03:34:33.399 Plantiff received three fifty five thousand dollars pay per view 3901 03:34:33.399 --> 03:34:37.559 payments during the second year of the agreement admitted honor. 3902 03:34:37.559 --> 03:34:39.840 About May eighteen, two thousand and one, plaintiff received in 3903 03:34:39.959 --> 03:34:42.479 cash to check from WCW oh the old the Hogan 3904 03:34:43.040 --> 03:34:46.959 oh Boy thing guilt for cashing checks. Plaintiff received in 3905 03:34:47.000 --> 03:34:49.719 cash to check from WCW for one hundred and thirty seven, 3906 03:34:50.040 --> 03:34:53.600 five hundred dollars, which represented payment for his remaining five 3907 03:34:53.799 --> 03:34:56.079 pay per views of the second year of the agreement 3908 03:34:56.319 --> 03:34:59.159 at fifty percent of the compensation payable under the agreement. 3909 03:35:00.319 --> 03:35:03.879 Mister U admits he received and posited the check for 3910 03:35:03.920 --> 03:35:07.600 one hundred and thirty seven five hundred dollars, representing fifty 3911 03:35:07.639 --> 03:35:09.600 percent of his pay per view money for year two. 3912 03:35:10.079 --> 03:35:13.600 Mister E also admits that he is entitled to the 3913 03:35:13.680 --> 03:35:14.920 remaining fifty percent. 3914 03:35:16.959 --> 03:35:22.000 Your goddamn right, he is, buddy, I did god cash 3915 03:35:22.040 --> 03:35:25.840 that check should have been more. WCW maintained workers compensation 3916 03:35:25.959 --> 03:35:28.520 coverage for plaintiff during the entire term of the agreement. 3917 03:35:29.920 --> 03:35:33.440 Mister Ugi does not have sufficient knowledge to admit or 3918 03:35:33.520 --> 03:35:37.639 deny that WSW maintained workers' compensation insurance for the duration 3919 03:35:37.719 --> 03:35:38.719 of the agreement. That's fair. 3920 03:35:38.760 --> 03:35:42.639 I suppose ww's workers compensation insure provided and plaintiff accepted 3921 03:35:42.799 --> 03:35:45.239 medical benefits for plaintiff's January fourteenth, two thousand and one 3922 03:35:45.280 --> 03:35:46.040 injury to his lege. 3923 03:35:47.360 --> 03:35:51.520 Mister U admits that ww's insurance paid for the medical treatment. 3924 03:35:51.600 --> 03:35:53.840 Right, So we got that WW paid for the medical treatment. 3925 03:35:53.920 --> 03:35:56.239 That's I mean, that's bare minimum. I'm not saying they 3926 03:35:56.319 --> 03:35:58.360 deserve a pat on the back for that, but said 3927 03:35:58.440 --> 03:36:00.799 has to be careful going out. They're claiming he's owed 3928 03:36:00.799 --> 03:36:02.719 all this money because of the damage he suffered, because 3929 03:36:02.719 --> 03:36:04.440 they The fact is they paid for the injury. They 3930 03:36:04.520 --> 03:36:07.959 paid for him to rehabit and get it fixed. Ww's 3931 03:36:07.959 --> 03:36:10.479 Workers Compensation Insurre has paid for all. 3932 03:36:11.040 --> 03:36:13.520 Well, you know, they also paid for the injury to happen. 3933 03:36:14.600 --> 03:36:20.399 Oh shit, what are you suggesting, mister Udy. I'm suggesting 3934 03:36:20.760 --> 03:36:24.000 that they go out there. They paid perview, they sell 3935 03:36:24.040 --> 03:36:27.959 paid perviews, and they say, you know what, Sid, We're 3936 03:36:28.000 --> 03:36:30.040 gonna put a hit on your fucking life, and it's 3937 03:36:30.040 --> 03:36:32.280 gonna hit you in the head like a shot. It's 3938 03:36:32.319 --> 03:36:33.920 gonna hit you in the leg like a shot. 3939 03:36:34.040 --> 03:36:41.440 Yes, I mean, everyone's out here talking about who paid 3940 03:36:41.479 --> 03:36:43.319 for the damages. You know who paid for the damages? 3941 03:36:43.520 --> 03:36:47.159 Sid paid, that's right, and he paid the pop. He 3942 03:36:47.239 --> 03:36:48.360 paid the ultimate price. 3943 03:36:48.239 --> 03:36:52.479 Really paid the price here exactly. Ww's Workers Competation Insure 3944 03:36:52.520 --> 03:36:55.840 has paid for all of the treatment plaintiff has received 3945 03:36:56.120 --> 03:36:58.559 for his leg injury since January fourteenth, two thousand and one, 3946 03:36:58.639 --> 03:36:59.879 including plaintiff surgery. 3947 03:37:01.000 --> 03:37:04.799 Mister Udi admits ww's insurance paid for his medical treatment. 3948 03:37:04.959 --> 03:37:08.959 Ww's Worker's Compensation Insurer continues to pay for the rehabilitation 3949 03:37:09.159 --> 03:37:11.360 of and physical therapy of plaintiff's leg. 3950 03:37:12.239 --> 03:37:16.440 Mister Udi admits that ww's insurance paid for his medical treatment. 3951 03:37:17.319 --> 03:37:20.399 Plaintiff has not paid for any of the medical treatment, 3952 03:37:20.479 --> 03:37:22.559 services or rehabilitation for his leg injury. 3953 03:37:23.639 --> 03:37:27.719 Mister Udi admits the w CW's insurance paid for his 3954 03:37:27.840 --> 03:37:28.639 medical treatment. 3955 03:37:28.959 --> 03:37:33.319 A valid contract existed between plaintiff and WCW that governed 3956 03:37:33.559 --> 03:37:36.879 the compensation the WCW was to pay plaintiff for his 3957 03:37:36.959 --> 03:37:38.159 professional wrestling services. 3958 03:37:39.120 --> 03:37:41.479 Admitted the agreement speaks for sale. 3959 03:37:41.360 --> 03:37:45.200 W W carriac to professional Athletes insurance policy issued by Lloyd's. 3960 03:37:46.879 --> 03:37:52.159 Heyes, of course, mister unimits a WW agents informed him 3961 03:37:52.440 --> 03:37:54.760 that a disability policy had been taken out for him. 3962 03:37:55.600 --> 03:37:57.760 Plaintiff was one of many ww wrestlers named in the 3963 03:37:57.840 --> 03:37:58.600 Lloyd's policy. 3964 03:38:00.000 --> 03:38:03.319 Does not have sufficient information to admit or deny statement 3965 03:38:03.399 --> 03:38:04.479 forty five. That's a T shirt. 3966 03:38:04.559 --> 03:38:07.559 Mister Ud does not have sufficient information to admit or 3967 03:38:07.600 --> 03:38:12.319 deny statement forty five. Under the terms of the Lloyd's policy, 3968 03:38:12.799 --> 03:38:17.360 WCW was entitled to receive partial reimbursement for payments made 3969 03:38:17.639 --> 03:38:21.200 by WCW to plaintiff during any period that plaintiff was 3970 03:38:21.239 --> 03:38:23.120 incapacitated under the terms of the agreement. 3971 03:38:24.159 --> 03:38:28.239 Mister Ug does not have sufficient information to admit or 3972 03:38:28.319 --> 03:38:30.000 deny statement for six. 3973 03:38:30.159 --> 03:38:33.760 Lloyd's policy did not provide for any reimbursement to WCW 3974 03:38:34.000 --> 03:38:36.200 during the first one hundred twenty days of any period 3975 03:38:36.479 --> 03:38:38.079 in which plaintiff was incapacitated. 3976 03:38:38.639 --> 03:38:41.200 Mister Ug does not have sufficient information to admit or 3977 03:38:41.239 --> 03:38:42.559 deny statement forty seven. 3978 03:38:42.719 --> 03:38:45.319 During the period June ninth, nineteen ninety nine through July eight, 3979 03:38:45.399 --> 03:38:48.520 two thousand, plaintiff was paid ten pay per view bonuses 3980 03:38:48.840 --> 03:38:52.719 in the amount of fifty thousand dollars each May. Plaintiff 3981 03:38:52.719 --> 03:38:55.200 is an experienced wrestler with almost twenty years in the business. 3982 03:38:56.000 --> 03:38:58.520 At message January fourteen, two thousand and one, Plaintiff was 3983 03:38:58.559 --> 03:39:02.120 well aware of the AUV and inherent dangers of wrestling professionally. 3984 03:39:03.840 --> 03:39:07.079 Mister Udi admits that he was aware that injuries occurred 3985 03:39:07.120 --> 03:39:11.639 in wrestling, but his injury was not a foreseeable one. 3986 03:39:12.159 --> 03:39:15.600 Plaintive voluntarily agreed to perform the move that ultimately resulted 3987 03:39:15.639 --> 03:39:17.399 in the January fourteenth, two thousand and one injury to 3988 03:39:17.479 --> 03:39:17.760 his leg. 3989 03:39:18.799 --> 03:39:22.719 Mister Udia missed the ww's agents forced him to perform 3990 03:39:22.920 --> 03:39:24.760 move that resulted in his injury. 3991 03:39:24.840 --> 03:39:27.559 Plant to voluntarily agreed to perform the move that ultimately 3992 03:39:27.559 --> 03:39:29.440 resulted in the January fourteen, two thousand and one injury 3993 03:39:29.479 --> 03:39:32.920 to his leg, even though he appreciated the specific danger 3994 03:39:33.000 --> 03:39:35.479 involved in jumping off the wrestling ring ropes and attempting 3995 03:39:35.520 --> 03:39:36.719 to kick an opponent in the face. 3996 03:39:38.000 --> 03:39:41.000 Mister Udi admits that he agreed to perform the move, 3997 03:39:41.520 --> 03:39:44.040 but that he did not appreciate the danger of the 3998 03:39:44.120 --> 03:39:46.280 move or foresee the injury that occurred. 3999 03:39:46.399 --> 03:39:49.520 The agreement provided and whose fault is that, sir? Pardon me, geeh, 4000 03:39:49.520 --> 03:39:50.639 I'm sorry, I had to let that out. 4001 03:39:51.319 --> 03:39:51.840 The agreement. 4002 03:39:52.719 --> 03:39:55.239 The agreement provider that plaintiff would develop his own individual 4003 03:39:55.280 --> 03:39:57.639 wrestling style and persona with advice for WCW. 4004 03:39:58.799 --> 03:40:01.600 Mister Udi admits, I think agreement speaks for saving. 4005 03:40:01.600 --> 03:40:04.440 Agreement provided the WCW and plaintiff agreed to act quote 4006 03:40:04.680 --> 03:40:08.680 in their own separate capacities and not as agents, employees, partners, 4007 03:40:08.760 --> 03:40:11.600 joined venturers, or associates of one another end quote. 4008 03:40:12.360 --> 03:40:14.920 Mister Uti admits, I think greement speaks for excess. 4009 03:40:15.040 --> 03:40:16.920 C W and plaintiff agreed that the agreement was the 4010 03:40:17.000 --> 03:40:20.520 quote product of arm's length negotiations between plaintiff and WCW 4011 03:40:20.760 --> 03:40:23.639 end quote, and that plaintiff quote had the opportunity to 4012 03:40:23.719 --> 03:40:26.879 seek and obtain consultation and connection with the negotiation and 4013 03:40:26.959 --> 03:40:28.639 execution of the agreement end quote. 4014 03:40:29.479 --> 03:40:32.079 Mister Uni A. Mints. I think greement speaks for. 4015 03:40:32.120 --> 03:40:34.719 Excels respectfully submitted on this twenty seventh day of January 4016 03:40:34.719 --> 03:40:38.319 two thousand and four, Council for plaintiff. So that is 4017 03:40:38.399 --> 03:40:42.840 basically and directly the series of claims that ww's making 4018 03:40:43.079 --> 03:40:45.840 to counter sit is that he went in and did 4019 03:40:45.920 --> 03:40:49.000 this move with full cognizance of the risks involved, and 4020 03:40:49.079 --> 03:40:51.040 it almost doesn't matter if he was forced to do it. 4021 03:40:51.159 --> 03:40:54.680 He nonetheless did it under an agreement and a contractual 4022 03:40:54.680 --> 03:40:57.959 structure where he assumed all of these risks and had 4023 03:40:57.959 --> 03:41:00.600 a lot of experience in the business. Can claim he 4024 03:41:00.680 --> 03:41:03.520 didn't know that that kind of an injury was possible, 4025 03:41:04.200 --> 03:41:06.159 but just because he it didn't occur to him that 4026 03:41:06.280 --> 03:41:07.600 that was the risk he was taken by doing the 4027 03:41:07.639 --> 03:41:10.639 move doesn't make a WCW's fault that it occurred. And 4028 03:41:11.639 --> 03:41:14.799 I don't know it sounds it sounds like a strained 4029 03:41:14.840 --> 03:41:19.879 series of excuses to me on which end a WWS end, 4030 03:41:20.000 --> 03:41:22.079 you know, because that works. It comes down to that 4031 03:41:22.120 --> 03:41:23.040 word force, doesn't it. 4032 03:41:24.639 --> 03:41:27.959 Yeah, I mean that's I mean, I mean, really, what 4033 03:41:28.079 --> 03:41:32.760 do you It's it's a hard it's that's a hard 4034 03:41:32.879 --> 03:41:36.280 thing to to kind of prove. Really it is what 4035 03:41:36.440 --> 03:41:40.639 is forced? What is volunteer? What is a voluntary move? Right? 4036 03:41:41.319 --> 03:41:43.840 Because they are also w WS with then the rights 4037 03:41:43.879 --> 03:41:45.520 to say that ultimately Sid agreed to do it, that 4038 03:41:45.639 --> 03:41:45.959 is true. 4039 03:41:47.799 --> 03:41:47.920 Right. 4040 03:41:48.239 --> 03:41:50.319 It's not like he parted the curtain saying fuck you, 4041 03:41:50.399 --> 03:41:52.399 I'm not going to do this, and you know that 4042 03:41:52.559 --> 03:41:56.399 somehow it ended up happening anyway. It's like eventually he 4043 03:41:56.440 --> 03:41:58.559 went through the curtain and WCW was confident that he 4044 03:41:58.600 --> 03:42:00.760 agreed to do the move, even if he had an 4045 03:42:00.760 --> 03:42:02.719 initial But again, it's got a factor in. You got 4046 03:42:02.760 --> 03:42:05.000 a factor in that Sid is Sid, and that of 4047 03:42:05.079 --> 03:42:06.600 course he's got a problem with it. You know, that's 4048 03:42:06.680 --> 03:42:09.399 just part of doing business with Sid, right, Right, He's 4049 03:42:09.399 --> 03:42:10.840 always going to have a problem with it. Right, This 4050 03:42:10.920 --> 03:42:12.319 is a guy who suffers a heart attack and goes 4051 03:42:12.360 --> 03:42:15.719 back to the hotel. According to Harvey Whippleman, when we 4052 03:42:15.760 --> 03:42:17.719 go try to find it, right, So you know, there's 4053 03:42:17.719 --> 03:42:20.440 all kinds of things like this with him. So this 4054 03:42:20.559 --> 03:42:22.520 all goes to the court system there in Georgia and 4055 03:42:22.799 --> 03:42:26.600 Sid gets denied on the breach of contract claim by 4056 03:42:26.639 --> 03:42:29.639 the local judge. But wow, he does get upheld on 4057 03:42:29.680 --> 03:42:32.280 the violation of an oral contract and unjustin Richmond. So 4058 03:42:32.319 --> 03:42:35.239 apparently the judge thinks there's something to the idea that 4059 03:42:35.399 --> 03:42:38.760 WCW went a little too far, in arguably trying to 4060 03:42:38.840 --> 03:42:41.159 monetize this injury by making a storyline out of it, 4061 03:42:41.200 --> 03:42:43.760 replaying in a nitro and everything. So as specious as 4062 03:42:43.799 --> 03:42:45.959 that argument seemed to be when we first read through 4063 03:42:46.000 --> 03:42:48.120 Sid's arguments, that was the one that did sync in 4064 03:42:48.840 --> 03:42:50.680 with the judge as something that was worthy of further 4065 03:42:50.760 --> 03:42:54.000 inquiry and perhaps should go to trial. And so of 4066 03:42:54.079 --> 03:42:57.360 course Sid, having been denied the breach of contract claim, 4067 03:42:57.399 --> 03:42:59.239 which is probably where most of the money is, he 4068 03:42:59.399 --> 03:43:02.959 appeals decision as superior court and that sends it up 4069 03:43:02.959 --> 03:43:04.639 to the state appeals court. The same thing happened in 4070 03:43:04.680 --> 03:43:07.799 the Vince Russou Hull Cogan lawsuit, where remember he got 4071 03:43:07.840 --> 03:43:09.639 half of what he wanted and half of not what 4072 03:43:09.760 --> 03:43:13.719 he wanted, right, you know, there was this claim of 4073 03:43:13.799 --> 03:43:15.879 defamation of character, and there was this claim of breach 4074 03:43:15.920 --> 03:43:18.440 of contract, and so it got very confusing because did 4075 03:43:18.520 --> 03:43:20.680 Hogan win or did he not win? It's like, well 4076 03:43:20.879 --> 03:43:23.520 it both of course, right. 4077 03:43:23.639 --> 03:43:26.159 Of course, listen, he'll he'll, he'll do the job as 4078 03:43:26.200 --> 03:43:27.200 well as he wins in the end. 4079 03:43:27.680 --> 03:43:30.520 So SID appeals to the state Appeals Court contends that 4080 03:43:30.639 --> 03:43:33.200 the trial court at local court we've been talking about, 4081 03:43:33.479 --> 03:43:36.639 made an error and granting some rejudgment for WCW on 4082 03:43:36.719 --> 03:43:39.840 claims of breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty, negligence 4083 03:43:39.879 --> 03:43:42.719 and all the rest. And he contends that the error, 4084 03:43:45.600 --> 03:43:47.840 the error came when they found that WW did not 4085 03:43:47.959 --> 03:43:51.959 improperly reduce his pay. That's what he really wants. He 4086 03:43:52.040 --> 03:43:54.639 wants that fifty to be one percent. He thinks he 4087 03:43:54.760 --> 03:43:57.079 can get that money out of them, of course, and 4088 03:43:57.239 --> 03:43:59.680 that of course, he also claims the improperly terminated his 4089 03:43:59.719 --> 03:44:03.079 contra as a result. Well, whereas WCW responded that all 4090 03:44:03.120 --> 03:44:06.440 the actions were allowed under UT's contract. So he actually 4091 03:44:06.440 --> 03:44:10.680 has two separate appeal cases to the state. Wwpls their 4092 03:44:10.719 --> 03:44:13.000 own denial too. It's not just said that appeals WW 4093 03:44:13.479 --> 03:44:18.639 denies the part they lost as well under breach of 4094 03:44:18.680 --> 03:44:22.120 an oral agreement and unjust and Richmond and so Finally, 4095 03:44:22.440 --> 03:44:29.479 the appeals court affirms the order that WW one and 4096 03:44:29.600 --> 03:44:34.840 denies sid's attempt to win the other fifty percent. Here 4097 03:44:34.959 --> 03:44:39.719 is an excerpt from the state appeals court decision here 4098 03:44:39.799 --> 03:44:41.399 that kind of brought this thing to an end, or 4099 03:44:41.479 --> 03:44:44.479 all just about brought to an end. After Uty's disabling 4100 03:44:44.520 --> 03:44:47.280 lake fractures, WCW did not terminate him after thirty days, 4101 03:44:47.319 --> 03:44:49.239 but instead paid him fifty percent of his base pay 4102 03:44:49.399 --> 03:44:50.920 and what he would have earned for five pay per 4103 03:44:51.000 --> 03:44:53.239 view events, and eventually terminated him in ninety days. 4104 03:44:53.319 --> 03:44:53.600 Notice. 4105 03:44:53.799 --> 03:44:56.520 Uty argues that a jury question exists, that is to say, 4106 03:44:56.520 --> 03:44:58.399 this should go to trial and a jury should decide. 4107 03:44:58.639 --> 03:45:01.200 A jury question exists as to whether he is entitled 4108 03:45:01.239 --> 03:45:03.360 to the other fifty percent because he contends that he 4109 03:45:03.479 --> 03:45:06.440 was coerced into performing the wrestling move that ended his career. 4110 03:45:06.680 --> 03:45:09.440 In other words, yeah, I might be incapacitated, and that 4111 03:45:09.559 --> 03:45:13.639 might entitally, you'd only pay me half. But if I 4112 03:45:13.680 --> 03:45:15.920 get incapacitated because you forced me to do something that 4113 03:45:15.920 --> 03:45:18.440 shouldn't count, Yeah, that shouldn't count. You shouldn't be able 4114 03:45:18.479 --> 03:45:20.079 to pay me less because you forced me to do 4115 03:45:20.120 --> 03:45:22.959 a move that broke my leg in half. WW responds 4116 03:45:23.000 --> 03:45:25.559 that it complied with the contract terms, that Udi voluntarily 4117 03:45:25.680 --> 03:45:27.920 chose to perform the maneuver knowing the danger involved, and 4118 03:45:28.000 --> 03:45:32.639 that it did not coerce ud. Udy testified on deposition 4119 03:45:32.760 --> 03:45:35.680 that he told Laurionidis, the WW employee who blocked the 4120 03:45:35.760 --> 03:45:38.079 moves for the January fourteen, two thousand and one event, 4121 03:45:38.600 --> 03:45:41.280 I think he's by blocked. I think they mean scripted it, 4122 03:45:42.120 --> 03:45:44.079 that he did not want to perform the final move 4123 03:45:44.120 --> 03:45:45.639 in which he was to jump from the second rope 4124 03:45:45.680 --> 03:45:48.239 and land and his opponent. He testified that he said 4125 03:45:48.280 --> 03:45:49.600 he was just not a rope guy. 4126 03:45:51.559 --> 03:45:54.559 That's a shirt, just not a rope guy. I'm just 4127 03:45:54.680 --> 03:45:55.479 not a rope guy. 4128 03:45:55.760 --> 03:45:58.040 Being a big man, he was concerned about getting his 4129 03:45:58.159 --> 03:46:00.120 timing right so he did not kick his opponent in 4130 03:46:00.280 --> 03:46:02.559 the face, having just returned to the ring after shoulder 4131 03:46:02.600 --> 03:46:05.280 surgery the year before. But Judy said Lauren Attis kept 4132 03:46:05.319 --> 03:46:07.600 telling him he needed to do the move. Eventually, he 4133 03:46:07.639 --> 03:46:09.799 handed him a written script and told Judy that if 4134 03:46:09.840 --> 03:46:11.719 you took the move out, Lauren Aidis would have to 4135 03:46:11.799 --> 03:46:15.159 redraft the script. God forbid, perish the thought Johnny, Oh 4136 03:46:15.280 --> 03:46:17.040 my god, I find a copy. You have to find 4137 03:46:17.040 --> 03:46:18.959 a kinkosh would be a nightmare. Sid, What am I 4138 03:46:18.959 --> 03:46:21.639 supposed to do? The script you want to read? Draft 4139 03:46:21.799 --> 03:46:23.239 is the ten fucking commanderies. 4140 03:46:23.280 --> 03:46:23.920 Cross it out? 4141 03:46:24.000 --> 03:46:25.600 What the fuck you have to rewrite the script? 4142 03:46:25.680 --> 03:46:26.200 Cross it out? 4143 03:46:26.280 --> 03:46:27.000 I can't rewrite. 4144 03:46:27.319 --> 03:46:29.760 I can't rewrite the script, said, I don't have a sharply, 4145 03:46:29.879 --> 03:46:32.440 Sid said, my guy up in North. 4146 03:46:32.479 --> 03:46:33.440 He said he can't do it. 4147 03:46:37.159 --> 03:46:40.920 My guy up and North. That's fucking great. I never 4148 03:46:41.000 --> 03:46:41.959 thought of that angle to it. 4149 03:46:43.920 --> 03:46:44.680 Have to draft the script. 4150 03:46:44.840 --> 03:46:46.799 Then, Udy admitted that he agreed to perform the move, 4151 03:46:47.000 --> 03:46:49.040 thinking he needed to prove himself to the company's new 4152 03:46:49.120 --> 03:46:51.200 owners because he had been able to work for some 4153 03:46:51.280 --> 03:46:53.520 time due to previous injuries. That's interesting that went through 4154 03:46:53.520 --> 03:46:56.239 Sid's mind. You know, we're about to undergo an ownership 4155 03:46:56.319 --> 03:46:58.040 change that definitely was in the air in January. 4156 03:46:58.200 --> 03:46:58.440 People. 4157 03:46:58.719 --> 03:47:00.840 Of course, a bishoff in few and all that stuff 4158 03:47:00.879 --> 03:47:03.799 is already well in motion, Sid says. The law says 4159 03:47:03.799 --> 03:47:06.879 if the non performance is caused by the opposite party's action, 4160 03:47:06.959 --> 03:47:09.079 it doesn't count. So if I can't perform because something 4161 03:47:09.120 --> 03:47:12.799 you did to me, not something I did you know 4162 03:47:12.920 --> 03:47:16.280 that that should invalidate your ability to pay me half. 4163 03:47:17.719 --> 03:47:19.840 But the judge otimately says, now there's a ninjury clause 4164 03:47:19.879 --> 03:47:22.639 in there, so you don't get to stand. You don't 4165 03:47:22.680 --> 03:47:25.520 have a le like to stand on. Of course, because 4166 03:47:25.639 --> 03:47:27.920 UDI granted WW the right to tape the wrestling match, 4167 03:47:27.959 --> 03:47:30.159 the judge determines, and to use and exhibit any part 4168 03:47:30.159 --> 03:47:33.200 of the match, he cannot claim that WW was unjustly 4169 03:47:33.319 --> 03:47:36.159 enriched by doing so. Under the policy terms the judge 4170 03:47:36.200 --> 03:47:39.920 included WCW not UDI was entitled to receive partial reimbursement 4171 03:47:39.959 --> 03:47:42.319 for payments made by WCW to any of the wrestler's names. 4172 03:47:42.319 --> 03:47:45.440 In other words, h Lloyd's repaid WCW for some of 4173 03:47:45.479 --> 03:47:48.000 the benefits that it paid to UD. WCW was not 4174 03:47:48.239 --> 03:47:52.959 enriched by the policy, just partially reimbursed. Boss got that 4175 03:47:53.079 --> 03:47:57.120 sid WW was not enringed here. They weren't even made whole, 4176 03:47:57.920 --> 03:48:01.079 of course not and also the judge includes. Finally, WW 4177 03:48:01.159 --> 03:48:03.719 contends that the trial court errred in denying it some 4178 03:48:03.840 --> 03:48:07.319 rejudgment on Utie's claim that WCW breached its oral agreement 4179 03:48:07.360 --> 03:48:08.719 to pay him for a pay per view event in 4180 03:48:08.760 --> 03:48:10.760 which he did not appear because the agreement provided that 4181 03:48:10.840 --> 03:48:13.399 any modification had to be in writing. Uti responds that 4182 03:48:13.479 --> 03:48:16.239 he relied on this payment promise to his detriment, agreeing 4183 03:48:16.280 --> 03:48:18.680 to fight before his doctor had cleared him medically following 4184 03:48:18.719 --> 03:48:22.239 his shoulder surgery. His reliance was reasonable, he contends, because 4185 03:48:22.239 --> 03:48:24.639 he had previously worked for WCW with no contract and 4186 03:48:24.719 --> 03:48:25.319 had been paid. 4187 03:48:27.559 --> 03:48:30.159 Your honor, I'm with him. I right to expect that. 4188 03:48:30.239 --> 03:48:32.440 Things that are promised to me will be delivered even 4189 03:48:32.440 --> 03:48:34.799 if they're not in writing, because most of the money 4190 03:48:34.840 --> 03:48:37.360 I've made from this fucking company was without a contract 4191 03:48:37.440 --> 03:48:41.079 on the table. Based on the party's deposition testimony, the 4192 03:48:41.120 --> 03:48:43.479 judge concludes, we agreed that the trial court that with 4193 03:48:43.600 --> 03:48:46.280 the trial court that a genuine issue of material facts 4194 03:48:46.440 --> 03:48:48.639 exists for the jury to decide on this issue. So 4195 03:48:49.159 --> 03:48:51.399 it may have been too sweeping in my conclusion. 4196 03:48:51.440 --> 03:48:51.559 There. 4197 03:48:51.799 --> 03:48:54.399 While the judge doesn't uphold the thing SID really cares about, 4198 03:48:55.479 --> 03:48:59.479 he does say that a jury ought to decide if 4199 03:49:01.479 --> 03:49:07.000 if SID was denied an oral agreement payment. Remember they 4200 03:49:07.000 --> 03:49:08.360 said they would pay him for a pay per view 4201 03:49:08.360 --> 03:49:10.239 if he did what they had to go to the 4202 03:49:10.280 --> 03:49:13.600 table or whatever. So the judge keeps alive that little 4203 03:49:13.600 --> 03:49:15.559 small smidgeon of things, But that just means it gets 4204 03:49:15.639 --> 03:49:17.040 kicked back to the local court and they've got to 4205 03:49:17.079 --> 03:49:19.719 figure it all out. So after the Peers Court rules 4206 03:49:20.159 --> 03:49:22.879 as outlined above, on July twelve, two thousand and five, 4207 03:49:22.920 --> 03:49:25.719 a settlement is reached, ladies and gentlemen between sid UNI 4208 03:49:25.760 --> 03:49:27.120 and the Universal Wrestling Corporation. 4209 03:49:27.920 --> 03:49:28.600 So that's what happens. 4210 03:49:28.600 --> 03:49:30.239 It goes all the way appeal. The judge keeps one 4211 03:49:30.239 --> 03:49:32.559 little piece of it alive. Let's negotiate that no one 4212 03:49:32.600 --> 03:49:35.639 wants to go to trial here Sid Jesus and I 4213 03:49:35.680 --> 03:49:37.760 don't know who's to say what Sid got paid for 4214 03:49:37.799 --> 03:49:39.479 this settlement, but he did get paid at the end, 4215 03:49:39.600 --> 03:49:42.760 just for a small smidgeon of the full menu of 4216 03:49:42.799 --> 03:49:45.079 things he tried to claim against World Championship Wrestling. I'm 4217 03:49:45.120 --> 03:49:46.600 sure he didn't end up with anything close to the 4218 03:49:46.680 --> 03:49:48.600 other fifty percent of pay that he thought he wasn't 4219 03:49:48.600 --> 03:49:51.600 touch Oh, I'm sure not. But yeah, the final settlement 4220 03:49:51.719 --> 03:49:53.399 order is answered. And so you got to think about 4221 03:49:53.440 --> 03:49:55.399 this injury happens in two thousand and one, and it 4222 03:49:55.479 --> 03:49:58.680 doesn't get settled in the courts until my god, two 4223 03:49:58.680 --> 03:50:00.639 thousand and five four years after the company folds. 4224 03:50:01.079 --> 03:50:04.879 Wow, still going on? You old? That's absurd. I mean, 4225 03:50:05.600 --> 03:50:08.719 is there still a Universal like? I mean, I imagine 4226 03:50:08.719 --> 03:50:11.120 that there's nothing now. But how long did that did 4227 03:50:11.200 --> 03:50:12.040 that company last? 4228 03:50:12.520 --> 03:50:12.559 It? 4229 03:50:12.639 --> 03:50:14.399 Probably Universal Wrestling. 4230 03:50:14.840 --> 03:50:17.239 Unless all of its liabilities have been disgorged. Like in 4231 03:50:17.319 --> 03:50:19.520 other words, if nobody else has a claim on them 4232 03:50:19.639 --> 03:50:23.680 for money, ode they still exist, you know, but I 4233 03:50:23.680 --> 03:50:24.799 don't know if they've dissolved or not. 4234 03:50:24.920 --> 03:50:25.719 That's a great question. 4235 03:50:25.920 --> 03:50:27.799 I haven't heard about them in an awful long time. 4236 03:50:28.159 --> 03:50:30.239 But this this was a huge thing because so many 4237 03:50:30.239 --> 03:50:33.440 of these wrestlers, as we know, WWF didn't pick up 4238 03:50:33.440 --> 03:50:35.840 their contract and so they're still going to get paid 4239 03:50:35.840 --> 03:50:38.200 even though ww doesn't exist, and it's this new UWC 4240 03:50:38.360 --> 03:50:40.159 that they have to rely on. That's what's on the checks, 4241 03:50:40.639 --> 03:50:42.280 and that's where they have to go when they try 4242 03:50:42.319 --> 03:50:44.440 to make last minute claims for even more money, because 4243 03:50:44.440 --> 03:50:46.239 at that point, what's to lose. I mean, you're going 4244 03:50:46.319 --> 03:50:48.200 to get paid. There's no way to punish you from 4245 03:50:48.200 --> 03:50:50.799 booking because the company doesn't exist anymore. So let's just 4246 03:50:51.360 --> 03:50:52.799 just try a few lawsuits see if we can get 4247 03:50:52.799 --> 03:50:54.719 a few more bucks out of this. The skeleton that's 4248 03:50:54.799 --> 03:50:56.000 left of what was WCW. 4249 03:50:57.000 --> 03:50:57.040 So. 4250 03:50:57.719 --> 03:51:00.280 Yeah, the final settlement settlement order is issued is mentioned 4251 03:51:00.280 --> 03:51:02.559 in two thousand and five. It reads, the Court having 4252 03:51:02.600 --> 03:51:05.000 been advised by counsel for the plaintiff that is counseled 4253 03:51:05.000 --> 03:51:07.799 for SID and the defendant, that the above styled action 4254 03:51:07.959 --> 03:51:10.760 has been settled. It is hereby ordered that this action 4255 03:51:10.879 --> 03:51:14.000 shall stand dismissed within thirty days from this date, unless 4256 03:51:14.079 --> 03:51:17.079 either party, upon good cause shown, moves before said date 4257 03:51:17.520 --> 03:51:19.360 that this action should not be dismissed and should be 4258 03:51:19.360 --> 03:51:21.479 allowed to proceed upon such basis as it be shown 4259 03:51:21.680 --> 03:51:24.440 in said motion, as ordered by this Court, so ordered 4260 03:51:24.559 --> 03:51:28.159 this twelfth day of July two thousand and five. So 4261 03:51:28.239 --> 03:51:31.719 that must be the end of it, right, I imagine not? 4262 03:51:32.239 --> 03:51:35.079 I mean wanting to get an insurance company involved. They're 4263 03:51:35.479 --> 03:51:37.440 They're fine to just sit in the balcony, in the 4264 03:51:37.479 --> 03:51:41.360 catbird seed or in the cheap seats and watch their 4265 03:51:41.399 --> 03:51:45.000 business be characterized and watch their exposure be decided by 4266 03:51:45.040 --> 03:51:48.040 two third parties. Right that they wouldn't want to sue themselves, 4267 03:51:48.120 --> 03:51:48.479 would they? 4268 03:51:49.040 --> 03:51:49.200 Oh? 4269 03:51:49.319 --> 03:51:52.680 Boy, I invite you to pull up sid leg TIG Insurance, 4270 03:51:54.200 --> 03:51:57.319 because you better believe that after all this shit went down, 4271 03:51:58.840 --> 03:52:04.239 that ww's insurance company is going to sue wcw over 4272 03:52:04.319 --> 03:52:08.040 all of this is going to sow why we're going 4273 03:52:08.079 --> 03:52:09.760 to find out. That's what we're here to do is 4274 03:52:09.760 --> 03:52:13.399 answer questions. They want declaratory judgment. This is the TIG 4275 03:52:13.600 --> 03:52:19.600 Insurance Company filing in federal court against UWC World Championhipressing 4276 03:52:19.639 --> 03:52:22.600 Turner Sports, Johnny Lori Niitis. And here's the thing, they're 4277 03:52:22.680 --> 03:52:26.799 also suing SID. SID goes from suing all these people 4278 03:52:27.000 --> 03:52:30.479 to being sued alongside them by the insurance company. Because this, 4279 03:52:30.719 --> 03:52:35.239 my friends, is the United States of America's right and 4280 03:52:35.360 --> 03:52:36.200 this one is a duce. 4281 03:52:36.360 --> 03:52:37.719 We just won't let this stand. 4282 03:52:38.000 --> 03:52:41.159 We're going to characterize now for you the claims made 4283 03:52:42.360 --> 03:52:45.639 by the insurance company and why they feel they have say. 4284 03:52:45.760 --> 03:53:02.879 Here, give the Lapstan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that 4285 03:53:03.040 --> 03:53:06.479 knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan. 4286 03:53:21.159 --> 03:53:25.079 He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnacio 4287 03:53:25.559 --> 03:53:26.280 m JP. 4288 03:53:26.200 --> 03:53:34.559 Soro complaint for declaratory judgment comes now. Plaintiff TIG Insurance 4289 03:53:34.639 --> 03:53:39.079 Company and files this complaint for declaratory judgment, showing the 4290 03:53:39.200 --> 03:53:43.520 court as follows parties. Yes, I do love your insurance 4291 03:53:43.600 --> 03:53:48.760 voice great call TIG Plaintiff Hearin is incorporated under the 4292 03:53:48.840 --> 03:53:52.479 laws of California, with its principal place of business in Texas. 4293 03:53:53.959 --> 03:53:58.200 Universal Wrestling Corporation Incorporated UWC, a defendant here in was 4294 03:53:58.319 --> 03:54:03.680 formerly known as World Championship Wrestling Incorporated at WCW UWC 4295 03:54:03.879 --> 03:54:06.639 is incorporated under the laws of Georgia, with its principal 4296 03:54:06.680 --> 03:54:11.840 place of business in New York. UWC has designated the 4297 03:54:13.200 --> 03:54:18.200 designated A corporate System twelve oh one Peachtree Street, North, 4298 03:54:18.440 --> 03:54:21.719 Northeast Atlanta, Georgia three three six one as its registered 4299 03:54:21.719 --> 03:54:26.280 agent for service of process. Turner Sports Incorporated, a defendant 4300 03:54:26.319 --> 03:54:28.639 here in, is incorporated under the laws of Georgia, with 4301 03:54:28.719 --> 03:54:31.520 its principal place of business in New York. Turner Sports 4302 03:54:31.600 --> 03:54:37.920 Incorporated has designated CT Corporation System twelve oh one Peachtree Street, Northeast, Atlanta, Georgia, 4303 03:54:38.159 --> 03:54:40.360 three oh three six one as its registered agent for 4304 03:54:40.520 --> 03:54:45.520 service of process. Turner Entertainment in Corporate. Turner Entertainment Group, Incorporated, 4305 03:54:46.600 --> 03:54:49.760 a defendant here in is incorporated under the laws of Georgia, 4306 03:54:50.120 --> 03:54:53.120 with its principal place of business in New York. Turner 4307 03:54:53.239 --> 03:54:57.159 Entertainment Group, Incorporated has designated CT Corporation System twelve oh 4308 03:54:57.200 --> 03:55:02.319 one Peachtree Street, Northeast, Atlanta, Georgia, three zero three sixty 4309 03:55:02.319 --> 03:55:06.040 one as its registered agent for service of process. Sydney 4310 03:55:06.280 --> 03:55:10.399 r Udy, a defendant here, is a resident of Arkansas 4311 03:55:10.600 --> 03:55:13.200 and entered into a contract with WCW in the state 4312 03:55:13.280 --> 03:55:16.760 of Georgia. He has filed a lawsuit arising from that 4313 03:55:16.879 --> 03:55:21.520 contract in the Superior Court of Fulton County, Georgia. Johnny Laurnitis, 4314 03:55:21.559 --> 03:55:24.559 a defendants herein is a resident of Florida and seeks 4315 03:55:24.639 --> 03:55:29.120 coverage under a TIG policy delivered in Georgia for uty's 4316 03:55:29.159 --> 03:55:33.680 lawsuit presently pending in the Superior Court of Fulton County, Georgia. 4317 03:55:33.719 --> 03:55:37.799 So if you heard that right, they're saying that Johnny 4318 03:55:37.840 --> 03:55:41.440 Ace turned around and sought coverage from the insurance company 4319 03:55:42.319 --> 03:55:44.559 for any damages he suffered as a result of sid 4320 03:55:44.680 --> 03:55:48.079 lawsuit against him, fucking claiming. You know, he was working 4321 03:55:48.079 --> 03:55:50.159 as an agent of w W, which was insurance. 4322 03:55:51.200 --> 03:55:54.840 Don't doing what I can? I needed, I had coverage, 4323 03:55:56.239 --> 03:56:01.399 you can somebody cover it. 4324 03:56:01.479 --> 03:56:01.840 Cover me. 4325 03:56:03.319 --> 03:56:06.920 Who's gonna provide coverage? I can kick out it too, brother. 4326 03:56:06.959 --> 03:56:07.719 I'll cover you, dude. 4327 03:56:08.920 --> 03:56:12.239 Brother, you do some help, dude, for hul Hogan can help. 4328 03:56:12.879 --> 03:56:15.040 Haul Hogan can help. Once you go, lay down, dude, 4329 03:56:15.360 --> 03:56:18.040 you know. Cop your shoulders down, brother, close your eyes. 4330 03:56:19.319 --> 03:56:20.479 Whole commedia to do his business. 4331 03:56:20.520 --> 03:56:24.040 Dude, it washes over you like a spirit. 4332 03:56:27.840 --> 03:56:31.600 Jurisdiction and venue. This is a complete diversity of citizenship 4333 03:56:31.639 --> 03:56:35.600 between plaintive and defendants. The amount and controversy exceeds seventy 4334 03:56:35.680 --> 03:56:39.399 five thousand dollars. This Court is subject matter jurisdiction over 4335 03:56:39.479 --> 03:56:43.360 this action pursuing to twenty eight USC. Blah blah blah 4336 03:56:43.360 --> 03:56:46.399 blah blah Venue or the over this action is proper 4337 03:56:46.479 --> 03:56:49.639 in this court. Pursuing to USC blah blah blah blah blah, 4338 03:56:50.120 --> 03:56:53.159 Defendants are subject to the personal jurisdiction of this Court. 4339 03:56:53.840 --> 03:56:56.760 There is an actual controversy with respect to an insurance 4340 03:56:56.840 --> 03:57:00.120 contract delivered in Georgia for a lawsuit, depending on or 4341 03:57:00.239 --> 03:57:02.879 just such that this Court could declare the rights and 4342 03:57:03.040 --> 03:57:06.959 legal obligations of the parties. Pursued two twenty at USC. 4343 03:57:07.319 --> 03:57:12.680 Blah blah blah blah blah. Relationship between UD and WCW 4344 03:57:13.639 --> 03:57:18.079 UDI provided wrestling services pursuing to a written contract with WCW, 4345 03:57:18.319 --> 03:57:21.079 a true and complete copy of which is attached here 4346 03:57:21.159 --> 03:57:25.120 too as exhibit a employment agreement. Under the terms of 4347 03:57:25.280 --> 03:57:29.639 UT's employment agreement, WCW arranged his performances and appearances, including 4348 03:57:30.079 --> 03:57:34.239 his transportation to and from WCW scheduled events, and had 4349 03:57:34.280 --> 03:57:38.959 authority to approve his wardrobe, props and makeup. WCW also 4350 03:57:39.200 --> 03:57:43.399 owned all rights to UD's quote, name, image, likeness, character, 4351 03:57:43.520 --> 03:57:49.600 costume props, ring name, voice, logo, service marks, trademarks, trade names, signature, gimmicks, routines, 4352 03:57:49.639 --> 03:57:57.680 themes and character caricatures spelled in caricatures, which is cherricatures 4353 03:57:57.920 --> 03:58:00.319 spelled chercatures, and any and. 4354 03:58:00.479 --> 03:58:03.040 Uh huh indeed you misspelled in the contract? 4355 03:58:03.719 --> 03:58:07.639 Yeah, and any and all other distinctive and identifying indicia 4356 03:58:07.879 --> 03:58:13.079 as used by or associated with UD. WCW advised Udy 4357 03:58:13.239 --> 03:58:16.280 on developing his wrestling style and prepared scripts for his 4358 03:58:16.399 --> 03:58:21.120 wrestling matches that specified with the maneuvers the wrestlers were 4359 03:58:21.200 --> 03:58:23.959 to use and determine the final outcome of the matches. 4360 03:58:25.680 --> 03:58:29.319 Do y'all get that? Everyone get that, all the newspapers 4361 03:58:29.399 --> 03:58:29.639 get that. 4362 03:58:30.280 --> 03:58:33.079 I mean, this is an explosive ring we're putting in here, folks. 4363 03:58:33.719 --> 03:58:36.920 All right, they write scripts, they prepare them, all right, 4364 03:58:37.440 --> 03:58:39.520 they prepare move for move maneuvers. 4365 03:58:40.879 --> 03:58:41.799 I'm fucking writing this, shiit. 4366 03:58:41.959 --> 03:58:44.319 See, this is what I'm talking about, right, That's what 4367 03:58:44.479 --> 03:58:48.600 I'm fucking talking about. I'm going to court with these motherfuckers. 4368 03:58:48.840 --> 03:58:51.360 In the courtroom writing every word down feverishly. 4369 03:58:53.559 --> 03:58:55.079 And it's according to me as we go through this, 4370 03:58:55.280 --> 03:58:57.639 Like you know, we always hear about the scripts and 4371 03:58:57.680 --> 03:59:00.280 stuff and the TV writers, but what they were is 4372 03:59:00.280 --> 03:59:03.399 basically promo verbiage. They would describe the scenes of the 4373 03:59:03.479 --> 03:59:05.600 vignettes and stuff, but when it came to the matches, 4374 03:59:05.639 --> 03:59:08.440 everything I've ever seen has been very bare bones when 4375 03:59:08.440 --> 03:59:10.920 it comes to describing the actual things that happen in 4376 03:59:10.959 --> 03:59:13.440 the ring. It's up to the guys if they want 4377 03:59:13.520 --> 03:59:15.760 to to plan it out and remove. In a lot 4378 03:59:15.799 --> 03:59:18.040 of cases that they're headed to finish, of course, and 4379 03:59:18.159 --> 03:59:19.879 I guess in this case it was the finish, so 4380 03:59:19.959 --> 03:59:23.399 it probably it clearly was written down. But what a 4381 03:59:23.440 --> 03:59:25.319 way to bite them in the ass, because usually I 4382 03:59:25.440 --> 03:59:27.959 know these things aren't written down, and then you don't 4383 03:59:28.000 --> 03:59:31.319 have this whole basis to claim after the fact that 4384 03:59:31.559 --> 03:59:31.760 you know. 4385 03:59:32.799 --> 03:59:35.200 Well, you know we have proof of such. We have 4386 03:59:35.319 --> 03:59:40.719 a script right here, move one locker right, hold for 4387 03:59:40.799 --> 03:59:45.120 about three seconds. Mister Udy then pushes mister Steiner to 4388 03:59:45.200 --> 03:59:49.520 the ground. Five seconds later. You've been to the second. 4389 03:59:49.600 --> 03:59:50.360 They worked to the second. 4390 03:59:50.399 --> 03:59:59.360 Have you been reading ddp's notes. App again, breather for 4391 03:59:59.600 --> 04:00:00.440 five minutes. 4392 04:00:00.680 --> 04:00:05.159 That's right, yet take a powder yet. UTI and WCW 4393 04:00:05.319 --> 04:00:07.479 agreed that the terms of the employment agreement would be 4394 04:00:07.520 --> 04:00:11.200 construed pursuing to Georgia law, and that any disputes would 4395 04:00:11.200 --> 04:00:13.879 be resolved in the United States District Court for the 4396 04:00:14.000 --> 04:00:18.120 Northern District of Georgia. UD and WCW further agreed Udy 4397 04:00:18.319 --> 04:00:21.959 was eligible for workers compensation benefits and that ud would 4398 04:00:21.959 --> 04:00:26.040 accept such benefits as his quote, sole and exclusive remedy 4399 04:00:26.559 --> 04:00:29.440 for all injuries sustained during the term of the employment 4400 04:00:29.479 --> 04:00:32.879 agreement under the terms of the employment agreement as construed 4401 04:00:32.920 --> 04:00:36.280 by Georgia law, and his performance of services thereunder. Udy 4402 04:00:36.760 --> 04:00:42.360 was an employee of WCW underlying lawsuit. On January fourteen, 4403 04:00:42.399 --> 04:00:44.760 two thousand and one, Udy injured his left leg during 4404 04:00:44.799 --> 04:00:49.520 a WCW wrestling match while performing a maneuver scripted by WCW. 4405 04:00:52.000 --> 04:00:56.239 I love scripted maneuvers, attorney. Was the move scripted or 4406 04:00:56.360 --> 04:00:57.680 was it not? Your honor? 4407 04:00:57.799 --> 04:01:00.959 The move was in fact scripted. 4408 04:01:01.280 --> 04:01:03.040 Hey, I got It's in the script. 4409 04:01:03.440 --> 04:01:06.280 A hush comes over the deer, hush comes over the courthouse. 4410 04:01:07.120 --> 04:01:12.520 I put it in scripted. Roof, what sir Laurie nightis? 4411 04:01:12.559 --> 04:01:16.879 Please sit down? I just put it in confusion. He's 4412 04:01:16.920 --> 04:01:18.120 got he gets it. 4413 04:01:18.319 --> 04:01:20.239 For some reason, this is to yell over people, you know, 4414 04:01:20.360 --> 04:01:23.200 for some reason, there's like a crowd that's preventing him 4415 04:01:23.200 --> 04:01:23.760 from being heard. 4416 04:01:27.200 --> 04:01:29.920 I did what I had to do, Like it's a murder. 4417 04:01:30.719 --> 04:01:34.799 You write things down, you let him know. Oh shit, 4418 04:01:36.399 --> 04:01:38.719 I did what I had to do. You write things down, 4419 04:01:39.000 --> 04:01:41.239 you let him know. And he's saying these things while 4420 04:01:41.280 --> 04:01:43.600 being dragged out of the courtroom by a court officer. 4421 04:01:44.600 --> 04:01:54.440 Get him out of hat. What a fucking zany fucking 4422 04:01:54.639 --> 04:02:00.520 circus this is I wrote into the script, but I 4423 04:02:00.639 --> 04:02:06.680 wrote it on the author wrote it. I did what 4424 04:02:06.799 --> 04:02:09.680 I had to do. You would do this, sign the 4425 04:02:09.760 --> 04:02:12.200 scriptwriter Minova would do the same thing if you were 4426 04:02:12.200 --> 04:02:15.159 in my shoes. You don't do the same thing. You 4427 04:02:15.319 --> 04:02:20.120 kind of write the move though always nobody knows what's 4428 04:02:20.159 --> 04:02:31.920 going on? Oh, because Udi sustained his leg injury during 4429 04:02:31.959 --> 04:02:34.159 the course of the employee of his employment by WCW. 4430 04:02:34.360 --> 04:02:37.840 He received workers compensation benefits for his leg injury from 4431 04:02:37.920 --> 04:02:41.799 a TIG workers compensation policy issued to w CW. 4432 04:02:42.200 --> 04:02:45.760 So here's TIG, the workers compensation company that's paid out 4433 04:02:45.799 --> 04:02:47.159 on the policy. They want to sue. 4434 04:02:48.079 --> 04:02:50.920 See, the problem is we didn't understand the term workers 4435 04:02:51.360 --> 04:02:55.000 right exactly. We have a different definition of the term 4436 04:02:55.079 --> 04:02:58.200 worker when it comes to workers compensation, a different sort 4437 04:02:58.239 --> 04:02:59.959 of compensation when it comes to fake athlete. 4438 04:03:00.120 --> 04:03:03.319 You can understand our confusion. When the customer told us 4439 04:03:03.360 --> 04:03:05.920 that mister Uty suffered the injury while working. 4440 04:03:08.360 --> 04:03:10.680 While on the job, what they didn't say was that 4441 04:03:10.760 --> 04:03:12.840 he was doing the job, which is a very different polity. 4442 04:03:13.040 --> 04:03:17.079 He was working, all right, now that we know what 4443 04:03:17.159 --> 04:03:19.000 that means in the parlance of the industry. 4444 04:03:19.280 --> 04:03:23.040 Mm hmm. Beauty nevertheless filed a lawsuit in the Superior 4445 04:03:23.120 --> 04:03:26.479 Court of Fulton County against WCW, Turner Sports Incorporated, and 4446 04:03:26.600 --> 04:03:30.559 Turner Entertainment Group Incorporated, seeking to recover under common law 4447 04:03:30.719 --> 04:03:34.680 theories for injuries he allegedly received. He allegedly received shit, 4448 04:03:35.959 --> 04:03:39.280 allegedly received on January fourteenth, two thousand and one. Receive 4449 04:03:39.360 --> 04:03:42.239 you guys paid the workers' comp claim like you guys 4450 04:03:42.319 --> 04:03:45.520 determined to he actually received the injury, I would imagine. 4451 04:03:46.360 --> 04:03:49.600 You know, sometimes we do admit that we don't always 4452 04:03:49.959 --> 04:03:52.520 go line by line and read the fine print when 4453 04:03:52.559 --> 04:03:58.120 it comes to our policies. We just shell out the money. Okay, Well, 4454 04:03:58.120 --> 04:04:01.840 at least you're honest about it. True. An accurate copy 4455 04:04:01.920 --> 04:04:05.479 of the initial complaint bearing civil action number zero two 4456 04:04:06.319 --> 04:04:09.200 CV for eight five one three is a tacked tier too, 4457 04:04:09.360 --> 04:04:12.959 as exhibit B. At the time of Utie's injury, WCW 4458 04:04:13.239 --> 04:04:16.520 was a division of Turner Sports Incorporated, which was a 4459 04:04:16.559 --> 04:04:22.079 division of Turner Entertainment Group Incorporated, Turner Sports under turn Entertainment, 4460 04:04:22.159 --> 04:04:26.600 Which is it entertainment or sports? 4461 04:04:27.280 --> 04:04:30.760 Your honor, what do we have here? We we respectively, 4462 04:04:31.200 --> 04:04:33.479 we respectfully submit that a jury should. 4463 04:04:33.239 --> 04:04:40.799 Decide we we we respect we respectfully submit that there 4464 04:04:40.879 --> 04:04:43.959 is a confident of interest between these two organizations, and 4465 04:04:44.040 --> 04:04:48.520 we believe that a determination with a trial by jury 4466 04:04:49.239 --> 04:04:53.399 be the only way that we can finally know the truth. 4467 04:04:53.520 --> 04:04:56.159 And much like Boss Professional Wrestling, and much like mister 4468 04:04:56.319 --> 04:04:59.399 Uty in this case, your honor, we respectfully submit to 4469 04:04:59.479 --> 04:05:01.040 the Gripler crosspace. 4470 04:05:03.719 --> 04:05:07.319 On information and belief. UD filed an amended complaint in 4471 04:05:07.440 --> 04:05:10.360 February third, two thousand and three. The amended complaint was 4472 04:05:10.479 --> 04:05:14.559 not tendered to TIG for coverage. UD filed a second 4473 04:05:14.600 --> 04:05:17.879 amended complaint on February sixth, two thousand and three, which 4474 04:05:17.959 --> 04:05:22.479 added more claims and included Johnny and Laurinidis aka Johnny 4475 04:05:22.559 --> 04:05:25.879 Ace as a defendant. A true and complete copy of 4476 04:05:25.920 --> 04:05:29.520 the second amended complaint is attached here too as exhibit C. 4477 04:05:31.040 --> 04:05:33.360 Lauriniitis was an employee of WCW at the time of 4478 04:05:33.479 --> 04:05:40.079 UD's injury tig's coverage decisions. WCW tendered the initial complaint 4479 04:05:40.120 --> 04:05:44.040 to TIG for coverage pursuing to a commercial General Liability 4480 04:05:44.120 --> 04:05:48.000 policy issued for the period April one, two thousand to 4481 04:05:48.159 --> 04:05:51.879 April one, two thousand and one, bearing policy number TCT 4482 04:05:52.079 --> 04:05:56.000 seven zero zero zero three seven nine six four seven 4483 04:05:56.200 --> 04:05:59.600 nine nine zero two CGL. 4484 04:05:59.120 --> 04:06:01.719 Policy habit of everyone who always wanted to know what 4485 04:06:02.000 --> 04:06:07.079 exact policy numbered WCW care for its commercial General Liability insurance. 4486 04:06:07.159 --> 04:06:10.559 There it is there, It is right there. A true 4487 04:06:10.600 --> 04:06:13.680 and complete copy of the CGL policy is attached here. 4488 04:06:13.760 --> 04:06:18.319 Too as Exhibit D. TIG reviewed UD's initial complaint and 4489 04:06:18.399 --> 04:06:22.040 denied coverage under the CGL policy because UD was not 4490 04:06:22.159 --> 04:06:24.200 seeking damages covered by its turn. 4491 04:06:24.280 --> 04:06:29.719 Initially denied coverage to SID to ww A true and well, 4492 04:06:29.760 --> 04:06:33.799 it says beauty Yeah, denied utynie uty that's true, then 4493 04:06:33.840 --> 04:06:34.399 denied UTY. 4494 04:06:35.319 --> 04:06:37.760 A true and accurate copy of the denial of coverage 4495 04:06:37.799 --> 04:06:42.000 letter is attached here too as Exhibit E. Subsequent to 4496 04:06:42.120 --> 04:06:44.559 its denial of coverage for the claims asserted in the 4497 04:06:44.600 --> 04:06:48.520 initial complaint, UD's second amended complaint was tendered to TIG 4498 04:06:48.719 --> 04:06:53.120 for coverage by both WCW and Laurentiis. TIG reviewed the 4499 04:06:53.159 --> 04:06:56.719 allegations of the second amended complaint and agreed to defend 4500 04:06:56.840 --> 04:07:00.879 pursuant to a reservation of rights agreement. A true and 4501 04:07:00.959 --> 04:07:03.600 complete copy of the reservation of rights letter is attached 4502 04:07:03.639 --> 04:07:07.680 here too as Exhibit F. We have unlimited exhibits, your honor. 4503 04:07:08.639 --> 04:07:10.799 We plan to exhibit everything exhibitionists. 4504 04:07:11.520 --> 04:07:11.879 We are. 4505 04:07:13.559 --> 04:07:19.319 We are an exhibitious insurance company pertinent policy provisions under 4506 04:07:19.360 --> 04:07:23.239 section one coverages of the Commercial General Liability Coverage Form 4507 04:07:23.319 --> 04:07:27.120 the CGL form of the policy, TIG agree to pay 4508 04:07:27.239 --> 04:07:31.280 quote those sums that the insured becomes legally obligated to 4509 04:07:31.440 --> 04:07:36.440 pay as damages because of bodily injury or property damage 4510 04:07:36.799 --> 04:07:40.920 to which this insurance applies. However, TIG will have no 4511 04:07:41.200 --> 04:07:45.159 duty to defend the insured against any suit seeking damages 4512 04:07:45.239 --> 04:07:48.760 for bodily injury or property damage to which this insurance 4513 04:07:48.840 --> 04:07:52.559 does not apply and quote. Under section one of the 4514 04:07:52.639 --> 04:07:57.159 CGL form, quote this insurance applies to bodily injury and 4515 04:07:57.479 --> 04:08:01.639 property damage only if the boss injury or property damage 4516 04:08:01.799 --> 04:08:04.600 is caused by an occurrence that takes place in the 4517 04:08:04.760 --> 04:08:12.040 coverage territory well is that Minnesota, or is that Georgia territory, 4518 04:08:12.559 --> 04:08:15.959 and the bodily injury or property damage occurs during the 4519 04:08:16.159 --> 04:08:21.159 policy period. Under the CGL forms, Commercial General Liability Broadened 4520 04:08:21.239 --> 04:08:26.000 Coverage Endorsement, quote, bodily injury is defined as quote bodily 4521 04:08:26.079 --> 04:08:33.280 injury that's great sickness, sickness or disease sustained by a person. 4522 04:08:33.879 --> 04:08:40.079 This includes mental anguish, mental injury, shock, fright, humiliation, emotional distress, 4523 04:08:40.239 --> 04:08:44.920 or death resulting from bodily injury, sickness or disease. Under 4524 04:08:44.959 --> 04:08:48.719 section five of the CGL form, quote occurrence unquote is 4525 04:08:48.799 --> 04:08:52.799 defined as quote an accident, including continuous or repeated exposure 4526 04:08:53.200 --> 04:08:58.319 to substantially the same general harmful conditions unquote. Section one 4527 04:08:59.040 --> 04:09:03.719 of the CGL four excludes coverage for quote bodily injury 4528 04:09:03.879 --> 04:09:07.319 to quote an employee of the insured arising out of 4529 04:09:07.600 --> 04:09:11.520 and in the course of a employment by the insured, 4530 04:09:11.680 --> 04:09:14.760 or b performing duties related to the conduct of the 4531 04:09:14.879 --> 04:09:17.000 insured's business. Get that at all? 4532 04:09:17.120 --> 04:09:20.600 I mean, basically, I don't understand how bodily injury doesn't 4533 04:09:20.600 --> 04:09:25.120 apply if it suffered in the course of the employment 4534 04:09:25.680 --> 04:09:28.239 of the by the insured. I don' don't understand at all. 4535 04:09:28.399 --> 04:09:31.399 Yeah, it's very sure rising out of an incurse of 4536 04:09:31.440 --> 04:09:32.399 employment by the insured. 4537 04:09:32.440 --> 04:09:35.120 I mean, maybe it'll make more sense as we go, 4538 04:09:35.280 --> 04:09:37.799 make it make sense. This next one is money in 4539 04:09:37.879 --> 04:09:38.360 the bank. 4540 04:09:39.040 --> 04:09:42.600 Under section five of the CGL form quote employee includes 4541 04:09:42.719 --> 04:09:48.799 a least worker. Employee does not include a temporary worker. 4542 04:09:48.920 --> 04:09:52.200 We're not going to say that this does not cover 4543 04:09:52.559 --> 04:09:55.040 an injury to sid because he was an independent contractor, 4544 04:09:55.079 --> 04:09:56.879 are we We are not going to. 4545 04:09:56.920 --> 04:09:59.399 Quote, you know, he is not technically an employee of 4546 04:09:59.600 --> 04:10:02.600 oh organization. He is a private contractor, and we do 4547 04:10:02.760 --> 04:10:09.639 not cover private contractors. One more for the boys. Mm hmm. 4548 04:10:11.280 --> 04:10:16.040 Under section two of the CGL form, quote, WCW's employees 4549 04:10:16.120 --> 04:10:20.040 other than WCW's executive officers are insured, but only for 4550 04:10:20.239 --> 04:10:23.440 acts within the scope of their employment by WCW or 4551 04:10:23.479 --> 04:10:28.520 while performing duties related to the conduct of WCW's business. Unquote. 4552 04:10:29.280 --> 04:10:32.239 Under section two of the CGL form, employees are not 4553 04:10:32.440 --> 04:10:36.479 insured for a quote bodily injury to a co employee 4554 04:10:36.559 --> 04:10:38.959 while that co employee is either in the course of 4555 04:10:39.040 --> 04:10:41.920 his or her employment or performing duties related to the 4556 04:10:42.000 --> 04:10:46.040 conduct of WCW's business. That means god n So wait, 4557 04:10:46.239 --> 04:10:49.719 wait a minute. Employees are not insured for bottling injury 4558 04:10:49.760 --> 04:10:56.600 to a co employee, So I mean that could be 4559 04:10:57.559 --> 04:11:00.319 so if I don't understand. 4560 04:11:00.319 --> 04:11:02.360 I know I don't either, So I don't know what 4561 04:11:02.399 --> 04:11:05.639 a call employee is. Notice employee and co is in parentheses. 4562 04:11:06.399 --> 04:11:12.159 Yeah, well the quotes you mean. But yeah, it's very weird, 4563 04:11:12.280 --> 04:11:12.879 like why. 4564 04:11:13.559 --> 04:11:15.959 It's almost what is that it's in there? Not if 4565 04:11:15.959 --> 04:11:20.639 I'm trying to read this. Employees at WW you can't 4566 04:11:20.760 --> 04:11:23.600 claim an insurance, can't go for insurance money if they 4567 04:11:23.680 --> 04:11:25.479 cause injury to another employee. 4568 04:11:27.520 --> 04:11:31.719 But that's the whole business. The whole business is, you know, 4569 04:11:31.879 --> 04:11:38.520 potentially causing injury to another employee. It's pretty amazing under 4570 04:11:38.520 --> 04:11:40.680 an employment related this, I mean, this just sounds like 4571 04:11:40.719 --> 04:11:43.319 a shitty policy. It's like, why would you, why would 4572 04:11:43.319 --> 04:11:44.319 you choose this policy? 4573 04:11:45.319 --> 04:11:45.479 You know? 4574 04:11:45.559 --> 04:11:48.000 And to be shocked at how like impossible it is 4575 04:11:48.040 --> 04:11:49.440 to find a policy without language. 4576 04:11:50.840 --> 04:11:55.120 No, I listen, I'm mad, I I imagine that, you know. Listen, listen. 4577 04:11:55.159 --> 04:11:57.799 Insurance companies don't want to pay out? God, I understand. God? 4578 04:11:57.840 --> 04:12:01.799 Do they not want to pay out under an employment 4579 04:12:01.879 --> 04:12:05.360 related practices exclusion endorsement to the CGO policy. The policy 4580 04:12:05.399 --> 04:12:08.920 does not apply to quote personal and advertising injury to 4581 04:12:09.200 --> 04:12:12.760 one a person arising out of any a refusal to 4582 04:12:12.840 --> 04:12:16.399 employ that person, termination of that person's employment, or see 4583 04:12:16.920 --> 04:12:26.440 employment related practices policies, acts, or omissions such as coercion, demotion, evaluation, reassignment, discipline, defamation, harassment, 4584 04:12:26.639 --> 04:12:35.479 humiliation or discrimination directed at that person unquote. So that's 4585 04:12:35.520 --> 04:12:39.040 all wrestling right there. Coercion, demotion, Yeah, this is not 4586 04:12:39.200 --> 04:12:42.639 the business information harassment. This is not a good policy. 4587 04:12:43.600 --> 04:12:49.280 Relief sought based on all the terms, conditions, and exclusions 4588 04:12:49.319 --> 04:12:52.360 in the policy, whether expressly mentioned or identified in this 4589 04:12:52.440 --> 04:12:55.559 complaint or not. As well, as under relevant legal principles 4590 04:12:55.600 --> 04:12:59.360 and public policy concerns. TIG seeks a declaration as to 4591 04:12:59.440 --> 04:13:04.040 its obligation to defend and or indemnify UWC. Turner, Sports, 4592 04:13:04.079 --> 04:13:06.879 Turner Entertainment Group and Lauren Eidis for the claims asserted 4593 04:13:07.200 --> 04:13:11.319 in the underlying lawsuit. Wherefore, the plaintive TIG Insurance Company 4594 04:13:11.399 --> 04:13:16.799 praise that the Court a declare that TIG Insurance Company 4595 04:13:16.840 --> 04:13:19.479 has no duty to defend or indemnify the claims made 4596 04:13:19.520 --> 04:13:23.360 in the underlying underlying lawsuit and b award such other 4597 04:13:23.520 --> 04:13:26.559 and further relief as the Court shall deem just and 4598 04:13:26.719 --> 04:13:32.280 proper respectfully respectfully submitted Freeman Mathis and Gary L. LP 4599 04:13:32.840 --> 04:13:34.680 by Philip W. Savereigns. 4600 04:13:34.680 --> 04:13:38.120 So basically, Georgia Barr Number six six case, you're wondering 4601 04:13:39.079 --> 04:13:41.280 great stuff. So I mean, if so, basically they want 4602 04:13:41.319 --> 04:13:44.639 the court to tell them we actually obligated to defend 4603 04:13:44.840 --> 04:13:49.239 WCW in this lawsuit, Like, are we obligated to basically 4604 04:13:49.399 --> 04:13:52.840 cover the cost of defending this lawsuit against file by 4605 04:13:52.879 --> 04:13:57.200 sid And they're suing WCW to get that decision. It's 4606 04:13:57.360 --> 04:14:01.479 just it's such a nightmare and it involves so much foolishness. 4607 04:14:03.799 --> 04:14:08.559 It's even hard to tell how this resolves. It carries 4608 04:14:08.600 --> 04:14:10.520 through the court system for a little while. After that, 4609 04:14:10.959 --> 04:14:14.760 that complaint was filed with sid ud among the defendants 4610 04:14:14.799 --> 04:14:17.760 as well as Laurianidis. On July twenty four, two thousand 4611 04:14:17.760 --> 04:14:20.840 and three, it was it was filed and a judgment 4612 04:14:20.959 --> 04:14:23.000 was entered a year later, July thirtieth, two thousand and 4613 04:14:23.000 --> 04:14:28.360 flour four in favor of WSW against the plaintiff for 4614 04:14:28.559 --> 04:14:32.079 costs of this action. So basically, if I'm reading this correctly, 4615 04:14:34.879 --> 04:14:39.639 there was a decision that WCW basically can seek costs 4616 04:14:39.879 --> 04:14:44.840 to defend this lawsuit from the insurance company. And it's 4617 04:14:45.799 --> 04:14:50.959 it's amazing that there's more or disputes to come and 4618 04:14:51.120 --> 04:14:54.120 more issues to be hashed out. So it wasn't just 4619 04:14:54.200 --> 04:14:59.399 Sid's leg that suffered complications as a result of what 4620 04:14:59.440 --> 04:15:02.520 happened in two thousand and one. Who knows how much 4621 04:15:02.559 --> 04:15:05.120 he got, We know how much he wanted to get 4622 04:15:05.159 --> 04:15:07.879 and didn't get. But again, just another example, boss, just 4623 04:15:07.959 --> 04:15:10.520 another exhibit, if to use the parlance that we've been 4624 04:15:10.600 --> 04:15:14.280 using here in this episode, another exhibit of Sid coming 4625 04:15:14.360 --> 04:15:17.000 in and being given the ball at the top of 4626 04:15:17.079 --> 04:15:20.879 the card when everything's coming to a fucking screeching halt, 4627 04:15:20.959 --> 04:15:24.680 or everything is already bombed out. It's like, what future 4628 04:15:24.799 --> 04:15:27.360 is there here? You know, as he's out here. It's 4629 04:15:27.479 --> 04:15:31.040 so poetic. I think that Sid suffers this debilitating career 4630 04:15:31.159 --> 04:15:35.879 ending injury performing for a company that had absolutely no 4631 04:15:36.079 --> 04:15:39.799 traction in no future, because that's the circumstances where Sid 4632 04:15:39.879 --> 04:15:43.920 has always thrived. Yep, that's the circumstances where his phone 4633 04:15:43.959 --> 04:15:47.520 rings loudest, where the contractual offers are our richest, is 4634 04:15:47.559 --> 04:15:50.680 when a company is on the skids, When the company 4635 04:15:51.000 --> 04:15:53.959 that he's going to is losing significant amount of momentum 4636 04:15:54.319 --> 04:15:57.120 and doesn't quite know where to look and for some 4637 04:15:57.280 --> 04:16:00.120 reason for all the well, you know, some reason, for 4638 04:16:00.200 --> 04:16:02.440 all the reasons we've documented thus far in our tribute 4639 04:16:02.479 --> 04:16:04.959 to Sid. We know the qualities that he had that 4640 04:16:05.079 --> 04:16:08.120 caused promoter after promoter to look to him for some 4641 04:16:08.280 --> 04:16:10.680 reason when they needed to pick up that bat phone 4642 04:16:11.079 --> 04:16:14.120 and figure out a way to stem the bleeding. But 4643 04:16:14.239 --> 04:16:17.719 they did, you know, it ended up costing them in 4644 04:16:17.840 --> 04:16:22.479 so many ways. And it's just it's just hilarious that 4645 04:16:23.280 --> 04:16:27.079 ultimately Sid seeking to hang his hat on the idea 4646 04:16:27.120 --> 04:16:29.319 that he can come into a territory and move business. 4647 04:16:29.399 --> 04:16:31.879 Ended up being a point in his lawsuit that you 4648 04:16:31.959 --> 04:16:34.799 know what, you were unjustly enriched by what I brought 4649 04:16:34.840 --> 04:16:38.319 to the table. You were unjustly enriched by the magnetism 4650 04:16:38.440 --> 04:16:41.799 of my name, translating into ratings for a video of 4651 04:16:41.920 --> 04:16:46.479 my career ending being broadcast on national television. It's about 4652 04:16:46.479 --> 04:16:51.600 as Sid as it gets. And we must now reach 4653 04:16:51.719 --> 04:16:53.639 our final leg of the journey. And I use that 4654 04:16:53.879 --> 04:16:59.040 not as a pun whatsoever, because we've already got a 4655 04:16:59.079 --> 04:16:59.520 glimpse of it. 4656 04:16:59.520 --> 04:17:00.399 We've got to of it. 4657 04:17:00.479 --> 04:17:04.120 It was a difficult other half of life for one 4658 04:17:04.200 --> 04:17:06.360 sid Uty after this injury at sin and after all 4659 04:17:06.399 --> 04:17:10.520 the lead ramifications were figured out and sussed out. And 4660 04:17:10.600 --> 04:17:13.000 when we're with you next time. In the TLF Tribute 4661 04:17:13.040 --> 04:17:16.319 to sid we take you all the way from rehabbing 4662 04:17:16.399 --> 04:17:20.319 the leg to entering the grave. We'll see you next time. 4663 04:17:22.120 --> 04:17:23.239 Preceeding announcement as a 4664 04:17:23.280 --> 04:17:26.440 T J to Santus production, its contents is intended for 4665 04:17:26.559 --> 04:17:27.479 private use only.