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<v Speaker 1>Crystal Sparks. Thank you so much for coming on with

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<v Speaker 1>me tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me at Crystal Sparks.

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<v Speaker 1>Is where you can find her, you know where that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me start out with the most basic boring. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>needs to know this, and everyone already does, but we

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<v Speaker 1>always start the same way. How did you initially decide

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the adult entertainment industry in whatever form

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<v Speaker 1>that was, If it was stripping camming, When was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time you were like, fuck this day job, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do something different.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, great question. I feel like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>have the same story as me. I was born and

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<v Speaker 2>raised in a very strict religion. Just household sex was

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<v Speaker 2>off the table as far as conversation went. It actually

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<v Speaker 2>every time I remember something new. But I remember during

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<v Speaker 2>like sex ed class. I went to Catholic school, and

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<v Speaker 2>the teacher was like, ladies, when you get home, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's all girls in a class and all boys

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<v Speaker 2>in another class, and the boys get the condoms to

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<v Speaker 2>blow up and play with and the girls get nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't get condoms, but anyways, our teacher told us like,

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<v Speaker 2>go home and get a hand mirror and hold it

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<v Speaker 2>to your vagina and and look at get familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>that body part, like it's a part of you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I go home and I asked my mom for a

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<v Speaker 2>hand mirror. Mind you, the only hand mirror she had

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<v Speaker 2>was like a silver like one that you saw on

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<v Speaker 2>the Titanic, like it was from the late eighteen hundred's,

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<v Speaker 2>the fancy kind. It was actually my grandmother's and she.

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<v Speaker 1>A straight out of Beauty and the Beast right and

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<v Speaker 1>everything talking okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes to hand it to me, and she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you want it for? Because she was also

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<v Speaker 2>very much against vanity, Like she had my hair cut short,

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<v Speaker 2>rather short, because she didn't want me spending too much

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<v Speaker 2>time in the mirror, you know, fixing my hair whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she goes to handity and she's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you need it for? And I said, well, miss

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<v Speaker 2>so and so at school told me to take it

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<v Speaker 2>and look at my vagina. And she goes what she

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<v Speaker 2>called the school a yelling, ranting, and raving. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>was that was the household I grew up and the

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<v Speaker 2>so when I was about twenty seven, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>one of my girlfriends in her house and I had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what it was at the time. Now I do.

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<v Speaker 2>But in her house she was setting up each room

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<v Speaker 2>with a different theme and she was basically starting a

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<v Speaker 2>camming like sight. And we were kind of talking and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, oh, I would love to do different things

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<v Speaker 2>to explore my sexuality. You know, here I am almost

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years old and I've never even had sex with

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<v Speaker 2>the lights on. Like I'm like, I was very that's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're going to go to hell. And she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you try doing this scamming thing with me?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, sure, okay, I liked it. It was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was more interesting than anything, just because it was

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<v Speaker 2>interesting hearing different people's requests, what different people liked, like

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<v Speaker 2>that was a whole new world to me. And so

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of when I started and then paused for

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<v Speaker 2>three to maw. It was probably about three years until

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<v Speaker 2>COVID hit and my boyfriend at the time he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think about doing this OnlyFans thing because

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<v Speaker 2>we were kind of getting into the lifestyle swingers, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, what the what the hell? We

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<v Speaker 2>have nothing else to do. We were on lockdown, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it kind of went from there. I did OnlyFans

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<v Speaker 2>and all the other stuff for a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we were at Play It again Sam's. I

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<v Speaker 2>started my Cornstar collection, so my only fans was just

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<v Speaker 2>having sex with Adan Hall of famers. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>were hanging out with Nick Manning at Play It against

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<v Speaker 2>Sam's in Las Vegas, this hole in the wall strip

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<v Speaker 2>club like dark ceedy twenty dollars lap dances for one song,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and he said, oh, you want to you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a dancer, You want to give it

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<v Speaker 2>a try. And I'm like, where did this conversation come from?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, no, I just when I'm drinking,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to get on stage just to

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<v Speaker 2>have fun. And he's like, no, you should give it

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<v Speaker 2>a try. You'd be great. So next thing I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working at Play It against Sam's and dancing at

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<v Speaker 2>this hole in the wall strip club in Chinatown in

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<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas. It was fun, but you know, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>it all started. It went from there. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years later, I was introduced to my agent. She asked

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<v Speaker 2>if I wanted to go pro. I wasn't sure, but

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<v Speaker 2>I took the plunge and there we are today.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like a talking head song. It's like, how did

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<v Speaker 1>I get here? You went from Catholics? Who I also,

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<v Speaker 1>I did twelve years of Catholic school preschool to eighth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we moved to public school for that and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a total culture shock. But it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So many people have whatever that adult defiance thing that

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<v Speaker 1>comes in where it's like all of my life you've

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<v Speaker 1>told me I can't do this, and I've spoken to

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<v Speaker 1>so many women that it's the same way. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I was so repressed as a child, and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like people don't just get they're going to break

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<v Speaker 1>out at some point now and I can't good thing

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't just grind into your head, like don't go

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<v Speaker 1>kill people. You might be a mass murderer right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Jesus, stop telling kids they explicitly cannot do things. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you and I will say kids can't watch

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<v Speaker 1>anything that you would be right, of course, not until

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<v Speaker 1>they're eighteen and probably twenty one in other states. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but yeah, who knows anymore. But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny. It always starts out that way, not always,

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<v Speaker 1>but once it really starts out that way times.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The weird shift I heard though, wasn't so much going

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<v Speaker 1>into dancing in this and that and not a weird

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<v Speaker 1>shift at all, just a total one eighty. It seemed like,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you were you talked or did you talk

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<v Speaker 1>the boyfriend into getting into the lifestyle, Like how do

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<v Speaker 1>you move from again Catholics? Well, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>never had the sex, lookit the lights on until I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty seven, and then we're just swinging baby. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm convinced too. Won that one?

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<v Speaker 2>Another great question. So he had already been in the

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle since his early twenties. He's fourteen years older than me.

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<v Speaker 2>So now, oh gosh, I keep saying I'm almost twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm almost thirty eight. I'm my subconscious is resisting.

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<v Speaker 1>You look, you look almost twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>You look yeah one, thank you. But and he is

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<v Speaker 2>about to turn fifty two this year, I believe. So

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<v Speaker 2>he he had been married before and they were in

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<v Speaker 2>the lifestyle for about seventeen years, so he was familiar

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<v Speaker 2>and he really dug into my fantasies, like, you know, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>all guys do it with the girl they're dating. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have any fantasies you know that have never been fulfilled?

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah. And when he asked me that question,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you will never know about my fantasies.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, well, what does that mean. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>they're too bad, Like they're bad, like and here I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just thinking about like a girl getting fucked by by

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<v Speaker 2>two different guys at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, yeah, heretic.

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<v Speaker 2>And now that's my favorite, Like that's like vanilla for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and so he really pulled all that out

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<v Speaker 2>of me. And then he's like, well, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>this club in town that I've been going to for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years. He's like, why don't you, you know, come

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<v Speaker 2>hang out with us, blah blah blah, see how you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I was scared to death. I was like shaking inside

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<v Speaker 2>and walking through the door, I just thought, I just

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<v Speaker 2>knew I was going to walk in and it would

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<v Speaker 2>be like this massive Greek orgy, everyone just having sex

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<v Speaker 2>with everyone, and I'd get pulled in and have to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do something I wasn't comfortable with. If nothing

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<v Speaker 2>like that, it was just like walking into a bar

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<v Speaker 2>and there are private rooms you know. And sure there's

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<v Speaker 2>the orgy room, which now I frequent.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a plaque with your name on it up there. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>okay it is.

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<v Speaker 2>There are posters with my face all over the but

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<v Speaker 2>they call me the residential porn star there now. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is kind of a story of me coming in

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<v Speaker 2>as scared to deats, like a little baby lamb going

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<v Speaker 2>to the slaughter to Now I'm like, who's first.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also I'm one of my This year I turned

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight. But I've been with my wife since we

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<v Speaker 1>were nineteen, right, And it's only over the last few

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<v Speaker 1>years when I start developing the show and blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah that I'm I coded my wife and I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, you know what you want, what you're interested,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I and I've been trying that for the

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<v Speaker 1>longest time. But now I'm really comfortable because I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to all these people in the industry and I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been comfortable with it. I kind of just don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a shit. But my wife same way. It's very She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to tell you to. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe if I was like like tied up

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<v Speaker 1>or someone has ripping a motorcycle outside. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you could hear that. Okay, good, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>loudest vehicle I've ever heard in my life. So something

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<v Speaker 1>so basic and simple, just like, oh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't mind being tied up. I'm like tied up. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know some of the girls I talk to and

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<v Speaker 1>what they do? Please tell me anything. You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>scare me away with any of it. I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time. I think when guys I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>other people in the lifestyle that I've done interviews with

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<v Speaker 1>who say things like, yeah, the guy will be like,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what you're interested in. And then if a

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<v Speaker 1>girl were to say like I'd love to be with

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<v Speaker 1>two guys, well, if I'm in a committed relationship, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't looking to go that far. A lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>would lose it over that. They're probably more just looking

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<v Speaker 1>for like, oh, I'd like another girl in the bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>with Oh yeah, that to me from the outside seems

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<v Speaker 1>extremely selfish of a guy. Are there guys like that

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<v Speaker 1>in the lifestyle and are they kind of looked at

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<v Speaker 1>as kind of like, oh, he's like one of those bakers,

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<v Speaker 1>like half ass type.

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<v Speaker 2>Things, Yeah, for sure, especially like there's the single guys

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<v Speaker 2>in the lifestyle. They get a bad rap because of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>How do I okay, let me preface this by saying,

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<v Speaker 2>in the lifestyle, the women comes first. The woman comes first.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't talk now. They are the ones you want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure you appro if you're if you know

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<v Speaker 2>your etiquette, you want to approach them first. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to introduce yourself and then you know, man or woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say I do the same thing. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to just go up to some woman's husband and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, you know, and then you know, then

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<v Speaker 2>the woman is like, well hello, there there is a team,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we always want to pay respects to woman.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more you have in common with them, the

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<v Speaker 2>the woman says no, it's just like tipping at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>If the woman says, oh no, they're horrible, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting a tip. The husband's probably not going to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>or he's going to sneak behind her back to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It right right, not directly do it against her. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>I mean nobody wants to be that rude, but we

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<v Speaker 2>have our moments. But when it comes to single men,

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<v Speaker 2>they get a bad rap because a lot of them

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<v Speaker 2>don't know or understand that. So they'll either sit there

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<v Speaker 2>husband walks away, and then that right there rubs couples

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong way because.

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<v Speaker 1>You looks vulturary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, exactly, and then no, or you look disrespectful

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<v Speaker 2>to the man and the couple. You know. But when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to men bringing in, which the more I talk,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you meant more on this line men bringing their

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<v Speaker 2>by saying is that more what you meant?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just picturing. Like I've known dudes in my

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<v Speaker 1>being a swinger, but like, I don't want my chick

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<v Speaker 1>with another guy. It's like, well, then you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a swinger. It sounds like it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you would get blown by two girls, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So sorry I misunderstood that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, totally conversation. No, but that's actually a great one

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<v Speaker 1>because I've never really considered that, Like, say, I am

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<v Speaker 1>it is. If that's even allowed a single guy at

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<v Speaker 1>a party, I don't know. How do I mean? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I try?

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<v Speaker 2>Do?

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<v Speaker 1>I like, look at the guy with the wife that

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<v Speaker 1>I find attractive, and I started asking him if he

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<v Speaker 1>likes baseball, Like I don't, like, do I have to

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<v Speaker 1>be friends with? I understand. It's like the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, couples. You want to get the couples together

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<v Speaker 1>and see if they're compatible the other way and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, back and forth. But a single guy. When

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<v Speaker 1>you threw that out there, I was like, Yo, that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine a single guy because I'd be looking

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<v Speaker 1>at him like.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people do. Yeah, but single men are

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite in the lifestyle. But a lot of women they,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because of that bad rap. They There are

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<v Speaker 2>clubs in Vegas that do not allow single men at all,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's couples only. Some clubs will have specific nights

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<v Speaker 2>just for single men, or usually they're like gangbang nights,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when the ladies know, oh, all these single

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<v Speaker 2>men are going to be there, that's what you're going

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<v Speaker 2>there for. But no, I would say that the most

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<v Speaker 2>successful single men in the lifestyle just treat it like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a regular bar and not like they're chasing after something.

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<v Speaker 2>So if my husband and I are sitting down at

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<v Speaker 2>a table outside drinking with friends or just by ourselves,

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<v Speaker 2>and then some guy comes over, maybe we make eye

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<v Speaker 2>contact and he's been staring at me for however long,

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<v Speaker 2>and I haven't noticed because I'm oblivious, and then just

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<v Speaker 2>comes over and it's like, oh, hey, my name is

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. Instroduce them sits down. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>guys come here often? You know that conversation that you

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<v Speaker 2>normally have at a bar which you're trying to pick

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<v Speaker 2>up a woman, I guess, but you incorporate the man

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<v Speaker 2>in there too, and try not to act uncomfortable as

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<v Speaker 2>much as possible because it shows that confidence level. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>women love confidence. And if you're just like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up, blah blah blah, I saw you from over there.

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<v Speaker 2>You're beautiful, Like how long have you been coming here? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>This is my first time, and just have a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>and then it either will lead somewhere or it won't.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you ask directly and you're like, are you

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<v Speaker 2>guys playing tonight, you know what, are you just hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out drinking whatever? If that woman is interested in you, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we're playing tonight, or if we weren't, yep, now we are,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, and so yeah, the woman usually makes

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<v Speaker 2>the call, So just do whatever you can not to

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<v Speaker 2>creeper out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be a rude question, not to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but a obviously I'm not I'm not asking to call

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<v Speaker 1>anyone out. I don't even know if you could. But

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever had to Have you ever had where

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<v Speaker 1>your guy is looking at a girl and really liking

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<v Speaker 1>a girl and then you see the guy and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you may have to take the l tonight. And

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever pushed it back the other way where

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<v Speaker 1>you see a guy and you look at your man

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, look, I know she only has one arm,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna have to do this for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I hear that happens quite often. Some couples have

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<v Speaker 2>the role though, where no one takes one for the team,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's equal fun for all. For my husband and

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<v Speaker 2>I specifically, we are in the dynamic of stag vixen

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<v Speaker 2>or hot wife. My husband likes to see me receive

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure and have fun and then I prefer him to

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<v Speaker 2>join in. He doesn't really just like to sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and watch. I always say, my favorite position is the

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<v Speaker 2>spit roast, so that's like my favorite I don't. People

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<v Speaker 2>tell me it's not really a position, but if it's not,

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<v Speaker 2>it is not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I can picture it. You look like it

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<v Speaker 1>is chicken spinning there on the rotisserie. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred Yes, that's not real. It is. I'm seeing it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done it many times. But yeah, so that's our dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>We have messed around with other couples before, but we've

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<v Speaker 2>thought that both people were equally attractive. She was beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>he was handsome. One couple that was one of our

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<v Speaker 2>favorites was from Scotland, so the accent was just okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And it was on a Wednesday night at

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<v Speaker 2>eight pm at a club in Vegas. We were not

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<v Speaker 2>expecting to do anything. It was dead and they just

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<v Speaker 2>walked in and we both looked at each other and

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<v Speaker 2>were like, we that was That was one of our

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<v Speaker 2>first I think couples, but mostly we do the single

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<v Speaker 2>or did the single mail thing. Now that I'm professional

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<v Speaker 2>in the industry, oh oh, Sadly, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle stuff has kind of taken a seat because you

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<v Speaker 2>have to be tested in order. So if I need

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<v Speaker 2>a guy in the club, nowadays, it looks instead of

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<v Speaker 2>me like, yeah, let's go to the lorgry room, most

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<v Speaker 2>like you're going, it looks more like, well, do you

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<v Speaker 2>live here? Are you visiting from out of town? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have time to go get tested? Can I make

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<v Speaker 2>an appointment with you? Do you want to be on camera?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been in a born romo?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I have some of your blood? Please? It's just

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<v Speaker 1>going to a lab. Don't sweat it.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of times I have there's no issue

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<v Speaker 2>still like the guys just like yeah, I'll do it,

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<v Speaker 2>and when when can I be there? You know? So

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<v Speaker 2>it's just not as spontaneous anymore. But yeah, there. I

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<v Speaker 2>hear of couples all the time where they have to

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<v Speaker 2>take one for the team, and I just think that's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have I've asked my husband before, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>she's attractive, like because I'm thinking the husband's attractive, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, she looks like my fucking grandma. I like

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<v Speaker 2>older men, so you know, and he's a man. So natural. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess some men like older women, but.

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<v Speaker 1>When they're younger, men like what they don't have generally.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm a young guy, I like an old chick.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm an old guy, I like a young chick.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's you know, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Men of the problem in the world is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how I look at it. This should all make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't because of men.

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<v Speaker 2>I think women are probably the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we sure. So you've taken these jumps. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you've gone from uh in the middle of church to

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<v Speaker 1>swing parties to camming. What is the next step where

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<v Speaker 1>you go, fuck it, put it on the internet wherever?

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<v Speaker 1>When I mean, was it just like were you so

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<v Speaker 1>ingrained in this stuff now where you're just kind of like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even a huge step for me, or was

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<v Speaker 1>that a huge step for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? It was a huge It was a huge step

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<v Speaker 2>for my career and our relationship because before everything was

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle based, and so we did everything together, Like whenever

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<v Speaker 2>we'd go to shoot content with someone, he was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever there was anything being done, any playtime being done,

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<v Speaker 2>we were there together. It was for both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we were at a v in a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and Rick Stronghold introduced me to Sandra with

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<v Speaker 2>oc He's like, oh, just come over here and meet her.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna love her. She's going to love you. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even talking about having an agent. We were just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of going around meeting different agents, just playing with

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<v Speaker 2>the idea. And she introduced herself and she goes, I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to be your agent. And I looked at

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<v Speaker 2>my husband and I said, are we going to do

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<v Speaker 2>this like that? Because in my head, I'm thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>means I'm going to be going to professional shoots myself,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like this is now turning into a completely

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<v Speaker 2>different thing. It won't be a lifestyle thing anymore or solely.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, yeah, why not, Let's give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And it started less than thirty days after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, did you both anticipate that it would have to

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<v Speaker 1>put somewhat of a clamp or a crump down on

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<v Speaker 1>your personal lifestyle or was the excitement of now you're

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<v Speaker 1>entering a world of very exciting, very sexual, best looking

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<v Speaker 1>people in the world, Like was there like this door's closing,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what they say, Gotto always opens a window, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We learned that when we were younger. Was that the

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<v Speaker 1>trade off or was it like, is he now sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there like can we go to the bar and you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>one's getting tested, So no, we're yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's a great question. And I think it did

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sneak up on us, like it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we fully had the realization that hey, this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>so much a lifestyle thing anymore until maybe within the

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<v Speaker 2>last year when things really started ramping up. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this thing with couples where one is in the

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<v Speaker 2>industry and one's not, and people talk about it all

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<v Speaker 2>the time where oh, you just got you know, railed

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<v Speaker 2>by seven different guys or whatever, and now you're coming

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<v Speaker 2>home and your husband or your girlfriend or your wife,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they want to make love and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sore, I'm so tired, you know, like please,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it breaks out because that other person feels

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<v Speaker 2>like they're not getting the attention they need and want.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we did go through a period where we

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to figure that balance out and still kind

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<v Speaker 2>of are trying to perfect it. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's a journey that may never end. You know,

418
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<v Speaker 2>because it's always something new, it's always it's things are

419
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<v Speaker 2>all always changing, things are always progressing or whatever it is.

420
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<v Speaker 2>So you just have to love each other enough to

421
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<v Speaker 2>to fight for it, I guess, and to have that

422
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<v Speaker 2>patience to figure it out. You know.

423
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<v Speaker 1>So you said in there something you said, you know,

424
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be going to set now and you're

425
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<v Speaker 1>not going to be coming necessarily. Are there girls in

426
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<v Speaker 1>the try in the industry that do try and like

427
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<v Speaker 1>bring their guy along? And how quickly are they shoot

428
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<v Speaker 1>away from the industry? You know?

429
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<v Speaker 2>I have been told that people have asked that before,

430
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<v Speaker 2>and like directors will say if everyone on set is

431
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<v Speaker 2>comfortable with it, I don't care, or maybe they'll just

432
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<v Speaker 2>say straight up no, I've never asked that because I

433
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want to put anyone on set in a position

434
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<v Speaker 2>to feel bad or you know whatever. So yeah, I

435
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<v Speaker 2>have heard that before, but I've never personally done it.

436
00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I have. It was a question when we first started,

437
00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:05.759
<v Speaker 2>when we had our like phone interview with my agent.

438
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:10.160
<v Speaker 2>It was a question he asked because he is also

439
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<v Speaker 2>he's now my man, part of my management team, and

440
00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:16.599
<v Speaker 2>he's not just the boyfriend that says they're the manager,

441
00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:20.640
<v Speaker 2>like he busts his but for me and and he

442
00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:25.359
<v Speaker 2>probably works more than I do at this, but you know,

443
00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>he works in tech for his main job, his day job,

444
00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 2>and so he does all the editing and posting and

445
00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:39.400
<v Speaker 2>paperwork and all that stuff. Like thank you, I appreciate it,

446
00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.839
<v Speaker 2>but yeah we did. He did ask the question, So

447
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<v Speaker 2>couldn't am I ever going to be able to be

448
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<v Speaker 2>on stetweather and Sandras said, well, that occasionally happens if

449
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.279
<v Speaker 2>people like maybe once you get to know people and

450
00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:56.720
<v Speaker 2>you know they're comfortable with that, and she's like, I

451
00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:59.720
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't expect it to happen right away. So now there

452
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<v Speaker 2>are people that I've worked with multiple times and they've

453
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<v Speaker 2>met him multiple times and hung out with us, and

454
00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:09.039
<v Speaker 2>they probably would be like, yeah, I don't care. But

455
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.559
<v Speaker 2>it's also I don't want to be the person who's

456
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<v Speaker 2>like bringing her husband who now people are looking like, oh,

457
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<v Speaker 2>who's this cock in the corner like getting off to us,

458
00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:20.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I don't want people to ever think

459
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<v Speaker 2>or feel that.

460
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<v Speaker 1>So sure that was and that was interesting to me too,

461
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<v Speaker 1>because I interviewed again somebody else that was in the

462
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:30.400
<v Speaker 1>industry recently and that was the question. So if I'm

463
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<v Speaker 1>an online hater looking at your thing, blah blah blah, typing,

464
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<v Speaker 1>you know, nasty in my mother's basement, going h your

465
00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>husband's a real cock. Now, cook is thrown out as

466
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<v Speaker 1>an insult. But I mean, in this industry, a cock,

467
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 1>a guy might want to be a cock. I mean, yeah,

468
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, but that's not the case in your situation.

469
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<v Speaker 1>There's no like humiliation effort, nothing like that.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, what's no none whatsoever. Although I have always thought,

471
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<v Speaker 2>and here I am learning new stuff again, I've always thought,

472
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<v Speaker 2>he's not He's not a I wouldn't if anyone tried

473
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:04.759
<v Speaker 2>to insult him while we were playing or whatever, it

474
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.440
<v Speaker 2>would be done. Like I'm not gonna say, always talk

475
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:09.759
<v Speaker 2>so much bigger than nors, like oh look, you could

476
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.319
<v Speaker 2>never please me like this, you know, like never, that's

477
00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>not It doesn't turn him on, it doesn't turn me on.

478
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm an exhibitionist, he's a voyeur. So it just it

479
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:21.200
<v Speaker 2>works out that way. But a director not too long

480
00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 2>ago did tell me that's still a cook. He's like

481
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<v Speaker 2>a cook is anyone who just who likes to watch.

482
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<v Speaker 2>And so maybe different people have different definitions for the

483
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<v Speaker 2>same word.

484
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:35.799
<v Speaker 1>We even google it right now definition coukled. Let's see

485
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>a man whose wife is sexually unfaithful regarded as an

486
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 1>object of derision. See now, I don't think so. And

487
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 1>especially you're not being unfaithful if you're fucking in front

488
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 1>of him, like he knows, he's aware, he's not Ray

489
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<v Speaker 1>Charles right, so you know. But also I make you know,

490
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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what a guy. If a guy wants

491
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<v Speaker 1>to be coocked out, that's totally cool. As long as

492
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<v Speaker 1>my theory is, as long as there's no dogs or

493
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<v Speaker 1>kids in the room, we're good. Do what you gotta do.

494
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<v Speaker 2>You know. I heard you say that on another as

495
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 2>you said, I listened, and I thought, I say that

496
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>all the time. That's what I say, even on we

497
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>have a lifestyle podcast, and I'm like, I will do

498
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 2>just about anything. I am a freak. I love it.

499
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>I will try just about anything. Dogs are kids, That's

500
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>where I draw my line. Yeah, we're done.

501
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>What is the name of your podcast?

502
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Swing Shot live from the Red Rooster.

503
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 1>There you go, it's.

504
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:35.759
<v Speaker 2>A swinger's podcast. We've taken kind of a hiatus due

505
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 2>to my career taking off, but we're about to start it.

506
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Back up again. But we started during COVID.

507
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<v Speaker 1>You have it. I mean, you'll have a lot bigger

508
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>name guests you can have on now if you want

509
00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>to have them, like people in the industry, bring them

510
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>on and talk about it. Let me do a thing

511
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I like to do called stat check. Okay, We're going

512
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<v Speaker 1>to do a thing called stat check based on the

513
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Internet Adult Film Database. Now, inevitably, when I say this,

514
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>every woman goes those numbers are wrong. I go, I know,

515
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I know they're not tracking this, they're not tracking that.

516
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>They're not tracking only fans at Crystal Sparks. Make sure

517
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>you check her out. But I'm going to base it

518
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.519
<v Speaker 1>on the numbers there. That way, when I have you

519
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>back on a year from now and you have AVN

520
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>awards flowing all over you and I'm like, I can't

521
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.799
<v Speaker 1>even see you, crystalah blah, we'll be able to look

522
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:27.279
<v Speaker 1>back and go, remember when so number of scenes according

523
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:32.079
<v Speaker 1>to the Adult Entertainment Film Database, he's forty four. Number

524
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 1>of guys you have worked with is sixteen. Number of

525
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>girls you've worked with twenty five one nomination and no

526
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>wins yet. What was the nomination Best Newcomer? I think

527
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it was.

528
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, last year I was nominated for a Best Newcomer

529
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and then this past year I was nominated or the

530
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:57.039
<v Speaker 2>three different movies I was in was nominated, But that

531
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't me personally. Everyone gets seven congratulations with the nomination.

532
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, those are the directors, so yeah.

533
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Just take it. Say yep, I'm that money nominations they like.

534
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>When I built my website, they have different referral things

535
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 1>you can drop on there, and I had a DraftKings

536
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>thing on there. It's just a referral I get it

537
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>from like a DraftKings account I have, and so many

538
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:21.880
<v Speaker 1>people have been like you were sponsored by DraftKings. I go, sure, yeah,

539
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.279
<v Speaker 1>what EV's go ahead and roll with it. Let me

540
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.039
<v Speaker 1>get into some of your content then, Crystal, what do

541
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 1>you like to shoot the most and what sells the most?

542
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Because oftentimes they're not always the same. It's a great

543
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 1>synergy if you can. You know, you really love solo

544
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>videos where you like eat Cheetos and watch Netflix and

545
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:47.799
<v Speaker 1>guys are like, I want to buy that can be

546
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:49.559
<v Speaker 1>the dream? Fuck? I know, right?

547
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

548
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>What is what's your best selling type of content?

549
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I would say what I started with and what I

550
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 2>still kind of try and center it around which is

551
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 2>hot wifing. Oh my, my husband filming while I'm getting

552
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>railed by some other guy every now and then he

553
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>can sneak in there and do like a POV thing,

554
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I'm like, honey, came here and I

555
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>start messing with him while you know. Oh, so that's

556
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 2>that's mainly what I do, and that's what sells the

557
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>most on mine too, So okay, I am there.

558
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess is there is there any like trend or

559
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>fetish or anything like that that you want to dive

560
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 1>into and you hope it will be successful. Maybe it's

561
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 1>not a big core of the content you make now

562
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>at Crystal Sparks, by the way, but that you really

563
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:41.759
<v Speaker 1>want to. Like, fuck, I hope this takes off. That

564
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>would be so cool if it was the next faux incest.

565
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I think everyone in the industry would love

566
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 2>if anything was the next poems. Right, We're all kind

567
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of like, okay, come on, this it's getting ridiculous. But

568
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>oh okay, So I I just recently started something new

569
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 2>and I hope it takes off, and it's really simple

570
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 2>and it's just me, and so far it's I'm getting

571
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>really great feedback. So just dressing up in a different

572
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>like costume or cosplayer or whatever, and and not so

573
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.720
<v Speaker 2>much writing a script. I'm ad libbing, but yeah, just

574
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 2>or is that the word I'm looking for.

575
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:31.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking improving and coming up all right? So your

576
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>your is it like cosplay exactly or is it like No.

577
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily, because I think different people have a different

578
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.079
<v Speaker 2>definition of that than I do. I'm not dressing up

579
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>like like an anime character or whatnot. I am a

580
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 2>huge truckie, so I might do some. I have a

581
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.119
<v Speaker 2>few Star Trek uniforms, but I'm trying to look into

582
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the legality of that. I don't want to get sued

583
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 2>by my favorite people. But I did, like not too

584
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:04.519
<v Speaker 2>long ago, a sex therapist one where I was wearing

585
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.200
<v Speaker 2>like a satin button up blouse and glasses and you know,

586
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the pencil long pencil skirt, and I just sat down

587
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 2>and for about five five to ten minutes, I'm just

588
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 2>talking with a pad, like saying oh, okay, okay, and

589
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>then I'm like, okay, well let me show you. And

590
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 2>then I'm like, this is the Glitterist. And it was

591
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 2>like a ten minute video and people loved it. And

592
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>then I also did oh gosh, what was another one

593
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I did? I did one with like baby oil, where

594
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I just like basically the same thing. I was teaching

595
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>some younger man, you know, how to please a woman,

596
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and so I was like, oh, baby oil and was

597
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>rubbing it all over myself. And I have a bush,

598
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 2>so you know, guys like me to incorp some guys

599
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 2>like me to incorporate that. So just like shorter videos

600
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:54.759
<v Speaker 2>where I'm dressed up as a nurser, doctor, therapist, teacher, whatever,

601
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just kind of putting on a little skit

602
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:02.599
<v Speaker 2>and then it leading. It's more like porn, organized scripted

603
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>porn than anything else. So my husband's been trying to

604
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>get me to do this for years, and like ever

605
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>since I started. I'm like, I have no idea, Like

606
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 2>that's stupid. I have no idea what you're talking about.

607
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, please, people would love it. I'd love it,

608
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>just a different one every time. We can post two

609
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 2>or three a week, and I'm like, Okay, I have

610
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>no idea what you want. I don't. I don't, I

611
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 2>have no idea. I was lost, and so one day

612
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I not too long ago, I was just like, what

613
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>am I going to do for this shit like he

614
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>wants it. I have no idea what he wants. So

615
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.079
<v Speaker 2>I just thought I'll just act like I'm a sex therapist,

616
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>and so I sat down. It took off, and he's like,

617
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I have been begging for you to do this for

618
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:43.039
<v Speaker 2>so long. He's like, thank you. I'm like, you just

619
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 2>wanted me to write a porn script and act it out,

620
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Like why didn't you just say that? So I am.

621
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I am starting that and trying now. We'll see how

622
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 2>it goes because it is getting away from the hont

623
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.720
<v Speaker 2>life thing, but I think I will still continue to

624
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 2>do that, of course. But I think with the new

625
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>fans I have following me who haven't been with me

626
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>since the very beginning, they're really appreciating that new stuff,

627
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, so because so many people now are doing

628
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 2>the hot life thing. So even people who don't work

629
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.799
<v Speaker 2>in the professional porn industry, you know, if you're just

630
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:24.759
<v Speaker 2>swingers who have only fans, you know, they're all doing that.

631
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>That's what they're doing, and so that is something new.

632
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying that, I hope. But other than that would

633
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>be anal. I haven't done my first anal shoot yet,

634
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and so if it doesn't come soon sooner than later,

635
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 2>then I guess I'm just gonna start doing it all my.

636
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Only There you go, Yeah, I mean sometimes you gotta

637
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 1>just do it yourself. And by the way, folks, my

638
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 1>guess next week is going to be Crystal's husband where

639
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>he just yells for an hour and goes I told

640
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>her to do it, and I go, I know they

641
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>never listen to us. Do that? They never listen. We

642
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 1>have such good ideas and they've just never listened to us.

643
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 1>And then him and I cry to each other like

644
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.759
<v Speaker 1>men do appreciate. I have a pitch for you. I

645
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>pitched this the Bad Bella the other day another performer,

646
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's a good idea, but it already

647
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.559
<v Speaker 1>might be out there all stationary cameras. Write it like

648
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>an Airbnb where we're not supposed to do anything dirty,

649
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and just cut between the stationary cameras as you fuck

650
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>on some guy's couch. I just came up with a

651
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>name as you were talking AIRTNA. There you go. When

652
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>this idea takes off and everyone's like, oh my god.

653
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I used to want to fuck my stepbrother, but now

654
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 1>I want to fucking someone's Airbnb like, that'll be our idea.

655
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>This is all of our collectives on this show.

656
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I love it. We won't be able to get sued

657
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>like some people who actually did it.

658
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're sure, yeah, what is all right? So

659
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 1>we've been joking about the faux incest and I want

660
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to dive into that more. What is I mean, it's

661
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>been the industry for ten years, it seems like, now,

662
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>what is your thoughts on that? And by the way,

663
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:00.199
<v Speaker 1>you are still qualified to play step Mommy if you

664
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>don't like it, but maybe you do. What is your

665
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 1>view on like that whole thing? And do you think

666
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:06.159
<v Speaker 1>it's healthy?

667
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Healthy? I mean I think that people, including myself. That's

668
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 2>probably why I can speak on this. Some people I

669
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:22.880
<v Speaker 2>can't speak for everyone have kinks or fetishes that let's see.

670
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Someone put it perfectly to me when I first started

671
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>exploring all of this. There's a difference between a fantasy

672
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:36.760
<v Speaker 2>and reality total And there are some porns that I've

673
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 2>watched that really get me going, but I would never

674
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.360
<v Speaker 2>do or consider in real life. And sometimes I've watched

675
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.760
<v Speaker 2>like the Daddy Daughter. You know, most of the time,

676
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:50.079
<v Speaker 2>and like I said earlier, I meant to older men,

677
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.440
<v Speaker 2>So most of the time. That's just what you have

678
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 2>to search for to get to that older man younger

679
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I think now they have age play, but sometimes that

680
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:02.719
<v Speaker 2>goes a little too looking for me, you know. So,

681
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:08.960
<v Speaker 2>But all that to say, I don't think it's unhealthy.

682
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that it's definitely healthier if someone is like

683
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:18.039
<v Speaker 2>really into that getting often that way, then like going

684
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 2>and trying to do something in real life. Obviously, so

685
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>there's that aspect of it. But other than that, I

686
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think it's most I would hope and

687
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 2>think it's mostly the fantasy of it all. Just again,

688
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 2>I haven't said this yet. I'm a debiant, so I

689
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 2>get turned on by things I'm not supposed to get

690
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>turned on mine. So there have been plenty of pornos

691
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I have watched and like the idea of the story,

692
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 2>whatever turns me on gets me going does its job.

693
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:51.519
<v Speaker 2>But then maybe afterwards and like I'm fucking disgusting, Like

694
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 2>how did I just watch that and come to it?

695
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Sure, so you know who it's all.

696
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>It all depends on if it's healthy for that individual

697
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.480
<v Speaker 2>now acting it out. There have been times where I've

698
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 2>worked with a young man who I feel like I

699
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>could break in half and I'm tiny, so you know,

700
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.519
<v Speaker 2>but when you look at it that way, it's it's

701
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>my job. You know. I'm still having fun. They're still

702
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 2>great guys. They're way younger than I would ever mess

703
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.400
<v Speaker 2>around with in real life. Again, not my thing. Maybe

704
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe one day when I'm in my fifties, it'll be

705
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 2>my thing, like you said, But yeah, I think it's

706
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 2>healthy depending on the person. And sometimes they can get

707
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:41.519
<v Speaker 2>a little cringe and like creepy, like what the fuck

708
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 2>do you guys want me to say? Like what But

709
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.239
<v Speaker 2>most of all we just laugh about it because it's

710
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:48.280
<v Speaker 2>so ridiculous.

711
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think same as all types of porn. Though,

712
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 1>understand that it's fantasy, it's entertainment, it's whatever it is.

713
00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>There you have to draw that line. Then you get

714
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>creepy people sending you a letter written in blood, And yeah,

715
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I looked at your Twitter and the very first picture

716
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.079
<v Speaker 1>right up here, posted just a few hours ago, is

717
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>two knives a beret. Al Right, this.

718
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Right here, it's supposed to be a Barrett.

719
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't. I don't fucking know the difference, Barrett. Okay,

720
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll just played it round. No, No, you probably

721
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.559
<v Speaker 1>got it right, this right here is my life in

722
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a picture, total accident, two knives, a crystal, and a

723
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:31.599
<v Speaker 1>hair beret or Barrett. Oh yeah, and my schedule, Your

724
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.039
<v Speaker 1>schedule looks fucking ridiculous.

725
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not even the whole thing. That's just my

726
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>my stuff.

727
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 1>So did you know getting into this? Now? It's nice

728
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:44.039
<v Speaker 1>you have that husband at home who you said picks

729
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 1>up with us. A lot of the slack with that,

730
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>but so many girls I interview, it's five percent of

731
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 1>my job is fucking and ninety five percent is social

732
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:56.519
<v Speaker 1>media editing, making sure this gets through dick ratings, whatever

733
00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:00.679
<v Speaker 1>it is. Did you did you know working porn was

734
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>going to be so much work? No?

735
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I did not. And I haven't even

736
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 2>buckled down and really done everything I should be doing yet,

737
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:14.039
<v Speaker 2>because I am I am in real life a mother.

738
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.679
<v Speaker 2>I won't give details about my children. But they're not

739
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:21.639
<v Speaker 2>children anymore. They're they're quite a bit older, so they

740
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:27.519
<v Speaker 2>are more self sufficient. However, none of them drive, even

741
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.800
<v Speaker 2>though they should be driving. But no one their age

742
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.679
<v Speaker 2>wants to operate a motor vehicle anymore. It seems they

743
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>all want to take ubers or someone.

744
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Driving them, right, Yeah, I've noticedulous with my wife. My

745
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>wife's cousins are like younger, like sixteen, seventeen, eighteen did

746
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I could not wait to get my fucking license and

747
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.159
<v Speaker 1>just not be where I was. Okay, I just need

748
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.320
<v Speaker 1>to be moving and then, thank you, I'll just find

749
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 1>another way there. Hey, here's an easier solution. You can

750
00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:01.639
<v Speaker 1>get there. Yeah, get your ass and gear, job, serious.

751
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Money, do something with you. No, No, they are a

752
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>different breed than we were. One. I was driving at fifteen.

753
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I was telling my parents I wasn't like doing the

754
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 2>sexual stuff. But I was telling my parents that I

755
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 2>was going down the street a mile to spend the

756
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>weekend at my best friend's house. And I was going

757
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:28.199
<v Speaker 2>two states over on road trips with my friends for

758
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the weekend Holland. I was going one hundred and twenty

759
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 2>back home down the highway, so I didn't miss my

760
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 2>curfew like wild times. But maybe that's why my parents

761
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>were so strung. They knew I was up to something.

762
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 2>But I was a good kid overall. But yeah, I freedom.

763
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:51.119
<v Speaker 2>We wanted freedom, and that was how you got it

764
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 2>was by having your your license and getting your first car.

765
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>And I worked three jobs at fast food restaurants. At

766
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 2>one point in time, I'd get four hours to sleep

767
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 2>just because I wanted the money so that I could

768
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:07.119
<v Speaker 2>do things. You know, kids don't want that anymore, but whatever,

769
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.920
<v Speaker 2>but yes I have. I'm a real life milf. As

770
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I tell these young guys on set, the twenty twenty

771
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.239
<v Speaker 2>one year olds, I'm like, well, now I got to

772
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 2>go to the grocery store and go home and make dinner.

773
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:22.559
<v Speaker 2>And they're like what, Like, yeah, I am an actual

774
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 2>milk and.

775
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:26.599
<v Speaker 1>You're cleaning come off your chest and you're like, I

776
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>got to pick up lunchable and we need apples at home.

777
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Jeff likes apples, so I should you.

778
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Know that's probably happened at the end of the month.

779
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Set one percent, Like did I get everything off my face?

780
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't want my eighteen year old like asking mom,

781
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck is that? So yeah, but yes I am.

782
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I am very busy with work and with real life.

783
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>But no, I never imagined because you know, when you

784
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.719
<v Speaker 2>just get into porn, especially coming off only fans or

785
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:03.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever online stuff in case you have to bleep that out. Okay,

786
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>so coming off that, you don't you think you're just

787
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 2>going to shoot content, you know, and maybe you do

788
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:14.599
<v Speaker 2>a little editing, brushing up whatever and putting it on

789
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>the website. But no, if you like your profession, it's

790
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:26.199
<v Speaker 2>almost like your professional work now is more advertisement for

791
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 2>your actual job, which is the online stuff, because that's

792
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:31.199
<v Speaker 2>how you're making your money.

793
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.639
<v Speaker 1>That's how the biggest names, you know. I also do

794
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>a separate show where I interview new girls coming into

795
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:38.519
<v Speaker 1>the industry, and so many of them I ask like,

796
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>would you want to do mainstream stuff? They're like, I

797
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it doesn't really pay a lot. And it's like,

798
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree, maybe that it's not what you could be

799
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 1>making on a very right but Crystal sparks at the

800
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>top of like a Brassers or Team Skeeter or whatever

801
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.599
<v Speaker 1>is a really great advertisement to send people saying this

802
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:01.280
<v Speaker 1>scene was so good, so turned on, I would love

803
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to see if she had more stuff. So when when

804
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 1>I talk to new people, if they're like I want

805
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 1>to know, like, you know, how would I get into

806
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 1>the industry, my recommendation is learn to edit video and

807
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>take a marketing class at a social at community college.

808
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, like great advice?

809
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Really, I mean, are there I think a girl who's

810
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 1>a seven on the scale of one to ten, but

811
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:29.079
<v Speaker 1>knows all of this stuff will make infinitely more money

812
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>than a ten who doesn't know any of this stuff,

813
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>who just guaranteed my hotness will get me through it,

814
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, And that's not always.

815
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 2>There's lots of hot girls out there nowadays.

816
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They just you got to know how to market yourself,

817
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>that's right.

818
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>It's all good marketing. Yeah.

819
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So let me ask, what is something that is

820
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>in the industry that you just have no interest in pursuing.

821
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Where it's something like whatever it is, If it's bondage,

822
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>if it's you know what I mean by like within

823
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the industry, somewhat within norms but not.

824
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Necessary, right, I was just thinking like the kink stuff,

825
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 3>like cause you mentioned bondage.

826
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I already have plans for just about everything as the

827
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:20.559
<v Speaker 2>years go on. You know, I went my first year

828
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 2>two years being pretty vanilla. Now I'm adding an anal

829
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.320
<v Speaker 2>and then next year I'll add in something else, next

830
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:30.440
<v Speaker 2>year as something else, But I don't it may change.

831
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.920
<v Speaker 2>We all grow as people, But I don't ever see

832
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<v Speaker 2>myself doing the like really violent aggressive like torture chamber

833
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff where you know, I see some women do it

834
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:48.360
<v Speaker 2>and they love it. I'm not really big into pain,

835
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:53.239
<v Speaker 2>so I don't see myself getting turned on by someone

836
00:44:53.519 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 2>punching me in my face, sure, or like actually joking

837
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.639
<v Speaker 2>me to the point where I'm passing out or something

838
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 2>like that. I'm not into this stuff where if I'm

839
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 2>watching it and I don't know for sure that they're acting,

840
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:12.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't like that because like if they're actually like

841
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:16.239
<v Speaker 2>crying and look like they're in pain, and I don't,

842
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't. But I've talked to some girls who do

843
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:21.800
<v Speaker 2>that and they they love it. They're afterwards, you know,

844
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, no, that was the hottest thing ever.

845
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.039
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, really, because you didn't look you didn't

846
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:28.440
<v Speaker 2>look like you were enjoying it.

847
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:30.639
<v Speaker 1>You were crying and begging at one point. Are you

848
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:31.119
<v Speaker 1>sure that?

849
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's okay, But yeah, I think that's the only thing.

850
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Really I can't ever. But again, who knows. Ten years

851
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 2>from now, I might be like, ah, that's easy, you know,

852
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>who knows. But right now, that's what I'm saying, the

853
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 2>hardcore torture. You're leaving marks on my body for the

854
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 2>next month. Yeah, I'll pass on that for now.

855
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's rough. That's rough. When you see a scene,

856
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know someone shot something rough in the last

857
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.239
<v Speaker 1>few days because you're like, oh wow, this is a nice,

858
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.159
<v Speaker 1>normal boy girl scene. Why she bruised to ship? Did

859
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:06.199
<v Speaker 1>she fall down the hill?

860
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

861
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Looking like Jay Leno when they show up on set bugging.

862
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, uh, so going forward, what

863
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 1>are the goals going forward? Is it? I guess you

864
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of just answered that you want to add something

865
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:22.800
<v Speaker 1>new every year, right, Yeah?

866
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to. I want to consistently grow and

867
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.880
<v Speaker 2>explore because I don't ever want to forget. The main

868
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 2>reason I started doing all of this was to get

869
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to know myself really that because that was something that

870
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:43.159
<v Speaker 2>was kept from me. I'm a much much different parent

871
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.119
<v Speaker 2>than my parents were because of it, So I think

872
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing. There's nothing my my kids, my

873
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:52.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to call them kids because they are

874
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:57.320
<v Speaker 2>rather grown, but my offspring there's they know, and god,

875
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I know, there's nothing they feel uncomfortable coming to me with.

876
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 2>There have been many times where they're like telling me

877
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 2>something and I'm like, you know, I'm your mother, right,

878
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:13.800
<v Speaker 2>like you know that right, And they're like, yeah, well

879
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 2>that's how you raised us, Like you want me not

880
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 2>to tell you anything. Now, I'm like anyways, but yeah,

881
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I think just as long as I can I consistently

882
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:29.960
<v Speaker 2>grow and explore and learn new things and meet new people,

883
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm having fun with it, I'll keep on going

884
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 2>because I'm having the time of my life and I

885
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:38.280
<v Speaker 2>never wanted to stop.

886
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>That's great, I mean, that's real. I mean so many

887
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.039
<v Speaker 1>people are working their office jobs like nine to five,

888
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:48.280
<v Speaker 1>traveling in, sitting in a big fluoresca desk with fluorescent

889
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.840
<v Speaker 1>lighting above them or whatever it is, and so many

890
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>of them wish they could just get to a point

891
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.519
<v Speaker 1>where they're like, I wish I was making money doing

892
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>something that makes me happy. And I think that's why

893
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you get a lot of hate, not you specifically. I'm

894
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 1>going through your Twitter and just everyone hates you. Wow.

895
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, actually, but so many of them. Just I understand,

896
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:11.519
<v Speaker 1>this isn't your life, you know, don't sit there and

897
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>be angry and hate about it. Figure out a pivot,

898
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>figure out something you could do, even just get a

899
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>hobby a right, I really like I have something plant.

900
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you, and I don't ask this to

901
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 1>be controversial, because whatever opinions, it's just it's an interesting range.

902
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I get from performers. What should be the age to

903
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>get into porn M A.

904
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Great, great, great question. Oh that's a hard one to answer,

905
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.440
<v Speaker 2>and I have thought about this before because of my

906
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 2>my offspring. Specifically, if my eighteen year old came to

907
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 2>me and she said that she wanted to do whatever,

908
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I would one percent support her. However, thankfully, now I

909
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 2>would be in the position where I could educate her.

910
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I could make sure that she's getting in with the

911
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:03.039
<v Speaker 2>right people and doing it the correct way to where

912
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>she's not going to be put in a situation that

913
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 2>is going to harm her, which I hear stories, and

914
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel so bad. I have been fortunate enough now

915
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I haven't had one bad experience. I don't know it

916
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 2>that's because I'm older, because I do hear a lot

917
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.079
<v Speaker 2>of you know, a lot of the younger girls. People

918
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.079
<v Speaker 2>might try to take advantage of them or whatnot, and

919
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.360
<v Speaker 2>that's why they get in those situations, or they don't

920
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:31.840
<v Speaker 2>realize they can say no without it hurting them or

921
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 2>their careers. But most people I meet that are eighteen,

922
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:44.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're mature enough to truly understand what

923
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 2>they're getting into, or maybe if they're just doing it

924
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:51.719
<v Speaker 2>for fun in a quick book, like, Okay, are you

925
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.239
<v Speaker 2>planning on doing something in the future that you know?

926
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Nowadays everything it's on the internet. Someone might find that

927
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.119
<v Speaker 2>and say, we don't want to hire you for this job,

928
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:02.760
<v Speaker 2>We don't want to be your client. You know, is

929
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 2>that going to have a serious consequent or is it

930
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.000
<v Speaker 2>something you want to do your whole life like and

931
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, make an actual lifelong career out of it.

932
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Then okay, that's a different story. I have met eighteen

933
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.880
<v Speaker 2>year old that are what blow me out of the water,

934
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and they have a good head on their shoulders. They

935
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>know what they're doing, they think things through, they're responsible.

936
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 2>So that's really hard to say. I was in the army.

937
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 2>It all goes back to the whole you know, you

938
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:33.719
<v Speaker 2>can fight for your country, die for your country, So

939
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:35.880
<v Speaker 2>if you want to fucking suck a dick for money,

940
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:36.840
<v Speaker 2>you should be able to.

941
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.800
<v Speaker 1>That was literally the analogy I was about to use.

942
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.360
<v Speaker 1>You're eighteen years old, you can go, you know, shoot

943
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.639
<v Speaker 1>someone in Iraq, but you can't shoot porn Like that's ridiculous.

944
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, but twenty one to be able to

945
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:49.519
<v Speaker 2>do that.

946
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Though I've interviewed I interviewed one girl years ago, though

947
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:56.119
<v Speaker 1>she was new to the industry. She told a story

948
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>where she met a guy online who's going to book

949
00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a scene with her eighteen years old. She flies six

950
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 1>states over or whatever it is, on her own dime,

951
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>because of course, she'll be reimbursed for it, you know. Oh,

952
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>she gets a hotel room on her own dime because

953
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:13.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you know, she'll be reimbursed. Don't Crystal, don't

954
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 1>sweat it. She'll be reimbursed for it. Don't even worry

955
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>about it. And then when she got there five states

956
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.320
<v Speaker 1>over whatever it was, she's from some po dunk town

957
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and wherever she ends up somewhere else. No one answers

958
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the phone, No one picks up the phone. No, no

959
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 1>one's answered.

960
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Now like this, Mam and bear would be flying out

961
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:31.480
<v Speaker 2>there to those.

962
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.679
<v Speaker 1>You better shoot borrow my god, I'm not fucking losing it.

963
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Is not being canceled. I will drop it, damn it.

964
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Give me a camera.

965
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.639
<v Speaker 1>It's just yeah, it's it's it's wisdom, it's not age.

966
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. There are some sixteen year olds

967
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>who are just smarter and more intelligent, more emotionally intelligent

968
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.079
<v Speaker 1>than I am. And I get that, but there's also

969
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of thirty year olds who don't know what

970
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:57.039
<v Speaker 1>the fuck they're doing with their life either, So it's

971
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:58.360
<v Speaker 1>tough setting number.

972
00:51:58.599 --> 00:51:59.519
<v Speaker 2>How do you make that call?

973
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Crystal, this went so fast. I was, I was,

974
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I am so tired today. I was like, you got

975
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:09.800
<v Speaker 1>to get the energy up. I took I read in

976
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>your bio you had sold vitamins. I took some vitamins

977
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 1>before this, not meth. I took some lions made mushrooms

978
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and some Alpha GPC because I heard it on a

979
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 1>podcast I'm sure somewhere, and I was like, you're gonna

980
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>get fired up, and now I feel great. Well, we

981
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:25.119
<v Speaker 1>got to wrap this one up.

982
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I'll do it again.

983
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Where you can find her. You know exactly where to

984
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.920
<v Speaker 1>find your links to everything in the episode description at

985
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Crystal Sparks her website. Also in the episode description everything,

986
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:37.679
<v Speaker 1>make sure you sign up for all of her stuff.

987
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Crystal Sparks, thank you so much for coming on with

988
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:40.039
<v Speaker 1>me tonight.

989
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me again. It was a joy,

990
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:54.440
<v Speaker 2>very funny