1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,599 Speaker 1: What is the war against cartels? We are fighting a 2 00:00:05,679 --> 00:00:10,880 kinetic war against drug cartels. Can this grow into a 3 00:00:10,919 --> 00:00:14,039 bigger conflict? Is this going to be fought differently? How 4 00:00:14,039 --> 00:00:16,760 significant is it for a country and how unique is it? 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,719 Michael Rourke, retired from the Special Forces community in international 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,320 security experts and consultant, joins me in the Todd Herman Show. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,679 It to talk just about this, and we'll do this 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,719 with the help of God Almighty. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: The Todd Herman Show is one percent disapproved, but big 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:43,719 pharma technocrats in tyrans everywhere from the high mountains of 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:51,640 Free America. Here's the Emerald City exile Todd Herman. 12 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made in. These 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,759 are the times to which God has decided we shall live. 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,799 My friend Michael Rourke joins us Mike as the principal 15 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,560 at AOC Security. He's a form of Special Forces operative 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,680 and served our country in combat. Mike, welcome back to 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,439 the Toddharam Show. 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: Thanks to good be with you again. 19 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:18,719 Speaker 1: So there is a war going on and it's not 20 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:22,920 getting enough attension, and the war is a kinetic war. 21 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:26,799 President Trump, Marco Rubio, Pete Haigseth have seen fit to 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,640 launch against international drug cartels. And given your background what 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,920 you do both international security consulting for companies and individuals, 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,200 high network people and your background and special forces, I 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,239 didn't think there's anyone better to talk to about this. 26 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:45,640 So is this as unprecedented as the media is telling us? 27 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:50,799 Speaker 3: I think it is. I mean, Ben, in the nineties, 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,879 we used to forces, we were sometimes reconnaissance missions along 29 00:01:55,959 --> 00:02:01,879 the border looking for illicit cartel. But now when you're 30 00:02:01,959 --> 00:02:06,239 using looks like MQ nine Reaper drones to drop hell 31 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:10,000 fires into drug smuggling boats coming out of Venezuela, yeah, 32 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:11,560 I'm gonna say that's pretty unprecedent. 33 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: What do you make of that as someone who served 34 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,840 the country Because we've so often been told our enemies 35 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:22,039 are and I believe they are Taliban Hamas hezblah, and 36 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,319 I do believe there are enemies, But what do you 37 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,800 make of now, all of a sudden turning this into 38 00:02:27,879 --> 00:02:31,520 kinetic war against These aren't nation states, they're not even 39 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,199 formerly terrorist groups. I'm sure terrorist groups use them, in 40 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,199 fact they know they do. But is this something that 41 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:41,000 makes you, I mean, how does it make you feel? 42 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,639 As someone who's been asked to put his life on 43 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,719 the line for the country. 44 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's interesting say, obviously there's tons into 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:56,479 poison coming into the country every year, every day, killing 46 00:02:56,879 --> 00:03:00,280 certainly over one hundred thousand Americans every year. I mean, 47 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,879 that's some would and you know, I kind of put 48 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,759 myself in that camp. That's like an invasion, a kinetic 49 00:03:05,879 --> 00:03:09,599 invasion of our country. But of note, you know, we're 50 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:14,199 not doing this. We're not hitting targets in Mexico. The 51 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:21,520 Trump administration is declared Maduro in Venezuelan illegitimate leader of 52 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,080 the country and says he's the head of a drug cartel. 53 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:27,960 And that's what we're hitting. We're hitting these small boats 54 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,039 at sea two on video, I think President Trump mentioned 55 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,840 there was a third. We're not hitting targets ashore. However, 56 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,719 the military passage that we have in the southcom Aoar 57 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,000 is way more than you need to hit a few 58 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,960 drug boats. So they have the potential to do something 59 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:50,919 a lot bigger. 60 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:54,719 Speaker 1: So you're saying in the presence that we've established there 61 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,879 of late, would lend itself to actually putting boots on 62 00:03:58,919 --> 00:04:00,520 the ground. 63 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:05,479 Speaker 3: Well, you've got the Iojima Amphibious Ready Group there, which 64 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,439 consists of the twenty second Marine Expeditionary Unit or MUTE, 65 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,520 and then soft special operations capable. That's a total of 66 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,240 I want to say, over three thousand marines. You've got 67 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,920 all kinds of air assets based in Puerto Rico right now. 68 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:29,040 We have f thirty five stealth fighters there. You don't 69 00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:32,519 need those to go after drug boats, but you might 70 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:35,399 if you're going to try to penetrate Venezuelan and airspace 71 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:40,959 and defeat their anti aircraft systems and take on their sixteen. 72 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:44,199 So there's a package there that's meant to send a 73 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:49,759 message to Maduro and it's beefy enough to do something 74 00:04:51,079 --> 00:04:53,839 inside Venezuela. Should that decision be made? 75 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,319 Speaker 2: Okay? 76 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: I think what I think is a really important question 77 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,800 for Michael Rourke. Advance operational concepts helps networth individuals and 78 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,959 companies remain secure in this environment. And I'll ask you 79 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,560 that in just a seconds here, Mike. 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That's Know Your Risk Podcast dot Com. 108 00:06:29,319 --> 00:06:32,519 Investment Advisors Services Officer, Truck Financial, LLC and SEC registered 109 00:06:32,519 --> 00:06:35,560 investment advisor. Investments involved risk and are not guaranteed pastformance, 110 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,439 isn't guaranteed future results. Truck twenty five DOESH two nine eight. 111 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:41,639 Here's what I think is the important question, Mike, in 112 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,720 relation to these actions we're taking against these drug cartels, 113 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,920 is this the first stage in recognizing a supply chain? 114 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:52,399 Let me explain this. They're going after right now, these 115 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:58,040 boats leaving Maduro's area, they've designated him and a illegitimate leader. 116 00:06:58,079 --> 00:07:00,000 We have these assets. I didn't know about, these assis, 117 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:03,399 three thousand marines. There is that a way to cut 118 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:06,079 off a supply chain into a country, Because from where 119 00:07:06,079 --> 00:07:08,319 I look, where you live in the areas on the 120 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,279 West Coast, et cetera, these major these major cities, we 121 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,040 have full on supply chains of drugs coming in, human 122 00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:19,279 flesh coming in, and money going out. So is this 123 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,439 the first stage maybe of a far larger war. 124 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: I mean, the possibility exists right now. It seems to 125 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:31,399 be focused on Venezuela. But you look at you have 126 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,439 all kinds of precursor chemicals that go into Mexico and 127 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:39,000 other South American countries from China, I mean from China 128 00:07:39,399 --> 00:07:45,639 aboard commercial shipping inside normal shipping containers, the UH supply 129 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:49,279 lines from Venezuela. I don't those boat those small boats, 130 00:07:49,279 --> 00:07:51,639 they're not going all the way to the US. They're 131 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:55,279 probably going to Mexico or somewhere else in Central America 132 00:07:55,759 --> 00:07:58,439 in order to train to ship to land and then 133 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,079 trying them over our land border usually concealed now with 134 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,439 the border essentially closed to foot traffic as far at 135 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:10,319 non ports of entry, they're concealing these low as in 136 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,040 commercial trucking shipments, and so that's where these little boats 137 00:08:14,079 --> 00:08:16,240 are going. You're not getting from boats going all the 138 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,519 way from Venezuela clear across you know, to the mainland 139 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,720 United States. They might or they might go to other 140 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:26,120 Caribbean islands. Some will go try to get to Puerto Rico, 141 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:28,920 because once you hit Puerto Rico, you're in the US 142 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,120 and then there are no customs checks. If you're getting 143 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,840 on a plane from Puerto Rico to the mainland US, 144 00:08:34,879 --> 00:08:37,200 you're not going through customs because you're going from America 145 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:37,879 to America. 146 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. And so they have these partner states that 147 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,399 they set up with they're bringing that in here. Here's 148 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,039 here's what I'm trying to communicate, though, Mike is there's 149 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,000 this other end of the snake as I see it. 150 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,120 So President Trump is taking the National Guard into some 151 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,399 key cities. Washington, d C. Was first. He wants to 152 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,120 take these them into Memphis, et cetera. He talked about Chicago. 153 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,840 And this is being couched as a war against this 154 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,360 crime that I contend the Democrats bosses have allowed to 155 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,480 metastasize and grow, and I think that they allow it 156 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:12,519 to flourish. I think they feed it. It's my opinion, 157 00:09:12,519 --> 00:09:15,440 and I can back that opinion up. The people who 158 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,960 benefit from all that crime are among them cartel members. 159 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,399 Because you have cops so taxed and busy arresting the 160 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,240 same you know, lunatic five times a day responding to 161 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,679 all these break ins and assaults that the cartels are 162 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,720 allowed to operate in places like Washington. The separate country 163 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,960 of Washington effectively free of any concern. So I'm wondering, 164 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:40,639 and this is me just wondering out loud. Are we 165 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,000 also looking at the National Guard going in and scooping 166 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:47,159 up cartel bosses and soldiers, etc. So we're fighting the 167 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:52,480 war at both ends down there and up here. Does 168 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:53,639 that sound wildheaded? 169 00:09:55,519 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not sure if if the National Guard is 170 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,679 going to be actually scooping people up. I think a 171 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,639 lot they're doing in DC is kind of a presence 172 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,360 in order to free up law enforcement to really do 173 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:10,960 their job. It'd be unusual, I think for them to 174 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,720 actually try to find cartel members themselves. The cartel is 175 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:18,639 pervasive throughout the unineties and cartel affiliate organizations, the gangs 176 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,480 that you know that that buy the drugs from the cartels. 177 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:26,799 But if you're freeing up law enforcement, both local, state 178 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,600 and federal, to do their law enforcement job, having National 179 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,000 Guard presence in order to help produce crime just by 180 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:38,000 being there, then I think it's going to have an impact. 181 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So then I'm not saying and I didn't mean 182 00:10:40,279 --> 00:10:42,679 to say that cars that National Guard members are doing 183 00:10:42,759 --> 00:10:45,919 the scooping up so sloppy and speech, but they free 184 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,200 up the other assets to do this Ice. There's no 185 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,960 doubt ICE is scooping up some cartel people. I mean 186 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,279 therese are not quote just criminal illegals. There's no doubt 187 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,840 that being caught up in this effort are cartel heads. 188 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,720 We've seen some of the violent people that caught up 189 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:01,759 MS thirteen, some of these other Trent Deagua, they're connected 190 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:05,679 to this. So I guess I'm hoping that this might 191 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,000 be a connection to finally getting the cartels out of 192 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,360 our cities, because there's areas in our in our country 193 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,559 that are a drug cartel run. Am I wrong? 194 00:11:16,159 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely it. The thing is, if you cut off 195 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,360 the supply coming from outside of the United States, cartels 196 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:29,559 are still involved in human trafficking in a massive way, 197 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:34,919 and that's already embedded here throughout the United States. I've seen, 198 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,679 you know, some of the impacts of that firsthand several 199 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:42,279 years ago, so that they have a lot of other 200 00:11:42,519 --> 00:11:45,879 sources of revenue. But if you can cut off the 201 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,759 drug supply from you know, from outside the US, it's 202 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,679 have a big impact on the cartels. 203 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:54,399 Speaker 1: Agreed. I think then that a subtext to all of 204 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:58,120 this is Northern Mexico because there are areas in northern 205 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:01,440 Mexico that aren't just drug cartel run. I mean effectively 206 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:05,320 they are the government and they've taken over cities, they 207 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:10,200 have unalived mayors, they've hung them from bridges their bodies. 208 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:14,240 Do you think this is an effective maybe tool for 209 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,360 President Trump to use with Mexico to more convince their presidents, 210 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,799 who has been pretty belligerent with us at times. She's 211 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,639 been she's been pretty I just say belligerent. Do you 212 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,879 think this is an effective tool for us to say, Okay, 213 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,759 this is Venezuela, we know these boats are probably going 214 00:12:29,799 --> 00:12:33,240 through Mexico. We could come across the northern border if 215 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,960 you need us to come and clean up the cartel 216 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,240 of activity there. Do you think that's a usable threat? 217 00:12:40,919 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: Certainly used as a as a pressure tact. Probably more 218 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,759 effective if it's done behind the scenes, diplomatmatically, rather than 219 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:53,279 through the president posting on truth social about it. 220 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 221 00:12:53,879 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the cartels a cartels are pervasive through on Mexico. 222 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:02,320 You've got one group that's splintered off from another that 223 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,679 was i'marily composed of former Mexican special forces who deserted 224 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,600 their units in order to get to becoming forces for 225 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,879 our cartels and form their own and they're right along 226 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:18,120 the border there, right along the border. 227 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're a super super well armed from what 228 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,840 I understand. You'd be a better judge of that, but 229 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,360 what I've heard is they have the ability to overwhelm police. 230 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,600 So they are well armed. And these these and you've 231 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:30,679 told me before that these guys are not without military 232 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,360 training as well. 233 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:38,759 Speaker 3: Fact, the Los Zeta, like I said, we're primarily Mexican 234 00:13:38,879 --> 00:13:42,159 special forces. Many of them were trained by our special forces, 235 00:13:42,519 --> 00:13:44,840 some of which trained by our special forces in the 236 00:13:44,919 --> 00:13:50,200 United States, and they've taken that expertise into the field 237 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:53,039 with them. For the cartels you have, the card is 238 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,799 operating like small military units. They're using small unit tactics, 239 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,720 are conducting raids and ambushes. They're armed with fully on weapons. 240 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:07,000 They're armed with Barrett fifty caliber sniper rifles. They're building 241 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:13,360 their own armored vehicles just by throwing these little monstrosities 242 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,720 together and then using those to attack other cartels, attack 243 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:20,519 their rifles and fight the Mexican police, the Mexican military. 244 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,799 I think they've ema successfully shut down helicopters with small arms. 245 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And speaking of that, we'll talk about helicopters. Just 246 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:29,799 a second, Michael Rourke joins this. He is the chief 247 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,600 over at Advanced Operational Concepts. Linked to his stuff in 248 00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:34,120 the show notes and how to get in touch with 249 00:14:34,159 --> 00:14:36,600 him on social media, et cetera. And Mike, I want 250 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:38,720 to talk about the helicopter thing that happened in your area. 251 00:14:38,799 --> 00:14:41,799 Then we do need to talk about Charlie Kirk and 252 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,399 some of the groups that may have been involved in this. 253 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,600 Because you've been warning about this for a very, very 254 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,879 long time. I've been issued a warning that it's a 255 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:52,720 sad one to talk about, but I'm going to talk 256 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:56,320 about it. Alan Soaps, We're about to have a big change. 257 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,399 John has been running this to employ people like Alan, 258 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:05,960 who's his dearly dearly loved son. Alan is nonverbal, lots 259 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,480 have been through I think eighteen surgeries. He's a fourteen 260 00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:13,240 years old nonverbal autism, very high on the scale. John's 261 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,960 been running that company. Alan Events Soap's there works there. 262 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,600 His brother Ian, also impacted by autism, works there. We've 263 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:24,240 employed other folks very similarly challenged. John is going to 264 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:27,200 the lords. He knows this. He's been fighting cancer for 265 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,240 a long time and this is metastasized to a point 266 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,240 where John is done fighting. So there's a change in 267 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,519 leadership coming and John is handing the reins to his wife. 268 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,080 We're asking you to make a decision to try the soap. Now, 269 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,639 I can talk all day long about the soap, but 270 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:44,000 soap is not a sexy topic. I mean, there's soap 271 00:15:44,039 --> 00:15:45,279 you wash your body with it. I will tell you 272 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,399 it's all natural. It's made in America. There's no chemicals 273 00:15:49,399 --> 00:15:52,320 in it whatsoever. It's very gentle. So our ask is this, 274 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:55,399 in recognition of what John's done, try the soap at 275 00:15:55,399 --> 00:15:57,759 alansaps dot com slash todd and just do this. If 276 00:15:57,759 --> 00:15:59,639 the soap is equal to her better than what you have, 277 00:15:59,679 --> 00:16:01,440 and it's going to be better, it's going to be better. 278 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,679 It's the greatest soap I've ever had. Didn't subscribe to 279 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,080 the soap that way. As John goes to the lord, 280 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,159 his wife takes over the company. They've got predictable revenues 281 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:12,360 to operate on. And look, if it doesn't work, don't 282 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,240 do it. We're telling you, if you don't like the soap, 283 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:16,440 don't purchase it. If there's a problem with the company, 284 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,080 don't do business. It's not a cherry, but give it 285 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,120 its fair shake. Allensaps dot com slash Todd Michael works 286 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:24,480 with us and Mike you told me and to my shame, 287 00:16:24,519 --> 00:16:26,559 I didn't know this. We lost some of our guys 288 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:30,120 apparently in a helicopter crash out in Thurston County out 289 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:31,600 to the separate country of Washington. 290 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: Details still aren't fully known yet, but I think around 291 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,279 nine o'clock last night, a military helicopter went down near 292 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,759 Snake in Thurston County. The people heard the crash on 293 00:16:46,799 --> 00:16:49,000 the ground. I think some of the first folks to 294 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:52,600 get there were lazy police Department Thurston County Sheriffs. They 295 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:54,960 tried to get to the scene but were pushed back 296 00:16:55,039 --> 00:16:58,639 by a fire. It was so hot their shoes were overheating. 297 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:07,279 I heard that unofficially, but as possible. There were no survivors. Also, unofficially, 298 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:10,240 I think it was an Age sixty four Apache gunship. 299 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:14,920 They're always flying around our area after so that's still 300 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:17,440 unofficial as far as I know the last time I checked. 301 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:18,440 But it does not look good. 302 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: Well, obviously a prayer for those families and sincere prayers 304 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:25,480 for our guys and people in that helicopter and where 305 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,079 were you when you saw what happened to Charlie Kirk 306 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:32,559 when he was assassinated. Mike, where were you? 307 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:39,759 Speaker 3: I was a hotel in another state. We were kicking 308 00:17:39,799 --> 00:17:44,720 off a project that's still ongoing now, and I heard 309 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:48,160 the news come across and then a friend of mine 310 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,720 who's very plugged in on the tech side, quickly sent 311 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:56,200 me the horrific video clip. And as soon as I 312 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,039 saw that, as soon as I heard it, I knew 313 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:02,960 it was a rifle, And as soon as I saw Charlie, 314 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,119 I knew it was not. 315 00:18:05,559 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: So you heard the reports and you were able to 316 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,000 tell that's a rifle. And one of the things you 317 00:18:10,039 --> 00:18:14,440 did is train snipers, and you instantly as well. I mean, 318 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:16,240 and you know far better than I. When I when 319 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,400 I saw his arms come up and then the profuse 320 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,839 amount of blood that came out, my instinct was it 321 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,319 wasn't survivable. But you knew that. 322 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: So, yeah, what I heard, let's start, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, 323 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:35,880 what I heard. The first sound I heard the sonic 324 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:40,079 crack of a rifle bullet going past camera on the 325 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,240 way to Charlie. And immediately after that you hear the 326 00:18:43,319 --> 00:18:47,720 lower thump of the muscle blasts and sniper worlds would 327 00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:49,920 call crack thump of the bull's coming towards you or 328 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,440 near you. You he hear the bullet first, and then 329 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,000 you hear the muscle blasts in the background. So I 330 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,559 anstantly knew it was a rifle and. 331 00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: There was this guy and the craw We now know 332 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:06,240 he decided to apparently announce himself as the shooter, and 333 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,000 he's now apparently, according the FBI, has admitted that he 334 00:19:09,079 --> 00:19:12,720 did that to allow the actual shooter to run away, 335 00:19:13,279 --> 00:19:16,680 to get away, And we now know that there were 336 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,839 a bunch of social media accounts I think it's eight 337 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,240 ten at least two named Chardie Kirk. Something BIG's gonna 338 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,240 happen in Chariti Kirk tomorrow. We know about the Armed 339 00:19:28,319 --> 00:19:31,359 Queers of Salt Lake City that were recruiting and training 340 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,119 people to use weapons and I think in offensive shooting. 341 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,000 They shut down their social media page September tenth, the 342 00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:42,400 day Charlie was shot. The alleged shooter was at least 343 00:19:43,319 --> 00:19:46,480 tied to tangentially even tied to that group. This group 344 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:49,400 has received some government funding one step removed USAA D 345 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:53,759 style and we see now President Trump coming out and 346 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:58,720 naming trans TIFA and Antifa as terrorist groups, And I 347 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,839 wonder what your spidy sense as are telling you. You're 348 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,039 far more careful than I am. But I look at 349 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:08,000 this and it stinks of at least social contagion pushing 350 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,359 into the assassination culture at least that. But do you 351 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,039 have any spidy senses that we should be looking hard 352 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:15,880 at some groups that may have pushed this young man 353 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,920 that way? 354 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. There's a lot of radicalization happening, happening on 355 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,839 social media and things like Reddit, forums of four Chan, 356 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,039 things like that, even in the gaming world, and the 357 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,039 radicalization has been happening for a while if you look back, 358 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:38,759 and probably going about three four years or even more. 359 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,880 They're real dehumanizing language from the left towards the right 360 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:51,319 really began in earnest where talking about you know, silences violence. 361 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:56,079 Language is violent. Therefore you're setting up to justify actual 362 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,359 violence to counter that. And when you're dehuman as to 363 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,680 the point where everyone's for everyone's a Nazi, you know what, 364 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,039 how do you stop hearing Nazis? You know, who wouldn't 365 00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:11,119 want to go back in time and kill baby Hitler 366 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,680 before World War two kicked off? 367 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: Right? 368 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: So their question of that narrative to get radical among 369 00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:20,440 them or the most memally instult to actually take action. 370 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Most of these people don't want to do it themselves, 371 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,599 but after the fringes of their groups, so they can say, hey, 372 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,079 they weren't really a part of our group. 373 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 374 00:21:29,519 --> 00:21:32,599 Speaker 1: It seems like a very very perfect setup, because there 375 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,880 are t shirts that are very thick in the so 376 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,079 called trans community, very popular. It says trans writes dot 377 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,319 dot dot, and then five rifles in this so called 378 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:45,480 transflag color. And then down there says or else, there's 379 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:48,960 this phrase this trainee brashes back. There's the Eugene Weekly 380 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,400 I think it is that had a picture of a 381 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,720 man pretending to be a woman holding an ar talking 382 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,039 about how they're ready to bash back against genocide. And 383 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,000 this language is being used in correct me if I'm wrong, 384 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:05,079 But these groups are not the first groups performing a 385 00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:09,920 revolution to seek mentally unstable people to go out and 386 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,480 be the initial cannon fodder. It occurs to me that 387 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:15,359 we're going to talk about nazis that some of the 388 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,559 original members of the Reichstead Crew were not that particularly 389 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:23,880 mentally stable and released criminals, et cetera. So is this 390 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,759 a known tactic people used to get unstable people to 391 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:27,640 do things. 392 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,559 Speaker 3: It is, and like I said that, that way they 393 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,400 can try to keep their hands clean. But if we're 394 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,839 designating them as terrorist groups, now you know what happens then, 395 00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:42,839 is just by having said that you're in Antifa, are 396 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,799 you subject to arrest? I think you're certainly subject to 397 00:22:46,839 --> 00:22:50,799 more investigation. Now you have jan as the director of 398 00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:55,359 the National Counterterrorism Center, And he replied to on on 399 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:04,480 actually Trump's with Trump's proclamation of the designation, he's ready 400 00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:06,519 to get to work and he's really good at targeting. 401 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: You're talking about Joe Kent, our mutual friends, Yes, sir, Yeah, 402 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,759 So Joe Kent runs a national terrorism response and he's 403 00:23:16,759 --> 00:23:18,160 going to get to work with this and has for 404 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,559 a long time. And Mike, I want to ask you 405 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:23,279 some questions. If you were to talk with Joe Kent 406 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,920 about the things you would do to look for these groups, 407 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,960 where would you start and how would you perform sort 408 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,759 of a triage in that Michael, work with us, with us, 409 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,680 with us. And we were talking earlier about Mexico, and 410 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,920 I want to make this point. I want to make 411 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,640 it as clear as I can. I go to Mexico 412 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,039 on a pretty regular basis, and there is a big 413 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:44,720 time police and military presidence where I go in port 414 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:48,480 of Arta and the holistical cartel. This is madness. It's 415 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:51,920 utter madness. They have a better, better fetanyl policy for 416 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,039 that that tourist area than they do in California and Seattle. 417 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,279 They've said, you do not sell fetanl to tourists. If 418 00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:01,279 we find out you're doing that, you're in trouble and 419 00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:03,720 you don't want trouble with the cartels. I go there 420 00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:07,519 because that's where I get world class healthcare at Renewed Healthcare. 421 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:10,920 And I've never had a concern in Porta Varta ever 422 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:14,200 or on that resort ever. I go there because I've 423 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,960 grown to understand it can do things that you're told 424 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,240 take surgery. My back was clicking. My back was shifting, 425 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:24,880 and I'm talking about squatting weights that aren't that particularly 426 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,680 heavy for me, and then it was clicking. Afterwards, I'd 427 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,160 roll over in bed and it would click. It was 428 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,200 not fun, and there was a lot of people would say, man, 429 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,119 I told you, yeah, way too much weightlifting acrossfit, You're 430 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,920 going to need surgery. I went down to renew They 431 00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:41,880 checked my MRI. They said here's what's going on. You've 432 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,039 got some vertebra that are collapsing, and you've got some 433 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:49,640 shifting of the loads onto some other areas of your back. 434 00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:53,279 We can help. So I went down, I got an injection. 435 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,599 I was asleep for about fifteen minutes, and three months 436 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:58,960 out of that, all that clicking was gone, the pain 437 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:01,799 was gone. Six months out of that. Now I can 438 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,319 wrap deep squads out of twelve inch targets to eleven 439 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,519 or twelve of these at weights that were making my 440 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:11,039 back click if I wrap them once and there's none 441 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:13,079 of that shifting, et cetera. It's it's not just backs, 442 00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:15,880 there's neurological issues. They can help you recover from surgery. 443 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,599 They can help you avoid surgery. They can even reset 444 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,400 your immune system. So go check them out. It's renew 445 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,039 r E n ue dot Healthcare. Just tell them you're 446 00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:26,240 part of the top hermitual Family. Renew r E n 447 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:29,039 U E dot Healthcare. Mike, I used to live here 448 00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:33,319 where you live. I watched Antifa come from this quote 449 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,559 idea into training on how to use IEDs and devices 450 00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:41,240 to top of police horses. I watch them do that 451 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:44,559 in a park in uh in Georgetown. I watch people 452 00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:47,839 ignore this. I watched them seize police station. I watch 453 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,119 them try to take out and sometimes succeed in taking 454 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,839 out cops. I've seen their threats against me. I've had 455 00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:57,440 them show up to threaten me at my house. I've 456 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,359 had them show up to threaten me at work. I'm 457 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,759 waiting and I'm glad to see them. Name datis organization. 458 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:05,599 Joe Kanty's going to help run this. What would Michael 459 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,160 Orke do and what would Michael Rourke advise companies that 460 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,000 may be targeted by people like this to do. 461 00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: Well? The first thing that you do is employed the 462 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,200 intelligence cycle. You have to start gathering information, and that 463 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,960 means all kinds of social media, everything that they're putting out. 464 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,880 You got to start intercepting their communications, and you start 465 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,799 building the order of battle. You know the names of 466 00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:35,799 these groups, where the cells are located. Then you start 467 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:39,559 identifying the members of these groups. And then once you 468 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,960 have a sufficient amount of information, then that's where you 469 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,200 can go in. And I think it's still enough to 470 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,440 have evidence of crimes, which is easy enough, especially in Portland, 471 00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:55,440 since they've been attacking the FEDS in there nightly. They 472 00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:57,640 have to swoop in and really roll these people up 473 00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:01,640 kind of like a decapitation strike and lead them leaving handcuffs, 474 00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:04,079 take the mass off, get them out of their black block, 475 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:07,640 and show them on camera. Look, these are the people 476 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,640 who are trying to destroy the country from within. 477 00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and as this stuff is going on in Portland, 478 00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,000 this is a resurgence of what they did in twenty twenty, 479 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,160 trying to break into a federal building time and again 480 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,160 trying to hamper law enforcement. Why not just go down 481 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:23,119 and make the first move to arrest all those people, 482 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:25,039 Take all those people. I love what you're saying, get 483 00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:27,799 them off the masks, show their faces, and go in 484 00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,559 with enough evidence that the ACLU can come and scream 485 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,920 and a holler all they want. But there's way, way, 486 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,039 way too many charges to just turn them around and 487 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:36,559 get them out of jail. Which has been the cycle. 488 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,319 These people get arrested, they get out of jail the 489 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,839 next day and use that as a show of force 490 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,759 and then start to go after the rest of the snake. 491 00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:45,359 Or is that tipping our hand too much? 492 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: Now, it's not tipping your hand, because you know it 493 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,720 can't happen all across the country all at once. You 494 00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:57,000 know there's going to be surges. I think Portland's a 495 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,839 great place to start. You need federal profit secutors that 496 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,000 are then going to prosecute to the hilt, because especially 497 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,160 in the Portland air, you cannot count on the local prosecutors. Nope, 498 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,000 And this happens in so many areas and you can't. 499 00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:17,559 And sometimes the local police, as much as they want 500 00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:20,240 to help, you know, they're hamstrum. So it's going to 501 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,960 be merely a federal effort. In the Blue States. 502 00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: I could agree more that's it's got to be this 503 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,279 federal effort because we could these people get sucker, they 504 00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:33,559 get supported in the Blue States and there, I mean, 505 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,200 I will never forget when we were watching and you 506 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,359 saw the same thing. Seattle had been taken over. I 507 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,720 mean you can say it was just six blocks, but 508 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:44,359 not for a few days. For a few days we 509 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,240 saw the unmarked trucks, you know, license plates, people with 510 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,920 long guns, ar setups patrolling our cities, stopping police from 511 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,480 stopping fires. Seattle was occupied for a little while, and 512 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,119 they asked the governor. A reporter asked the governor, what 513 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,400 do you think about antief? He said, what Antifa? Who 514 00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:06,119 Who's And he actually said who's anti Tifa and utter trolling. 515 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,519 So I guess I'm just anxious to get started. I 516 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,440 want to see these arrests, But I also want to 517 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,839 ask this. Would we be utter idiots to think that 518 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,920 our foreign adversaries aren't funding some of this? 519 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,839 Speaker 3: I think you would have to be an idiot to 520 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,720 think there's no foreign money involved a lot of it. 521 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:29,519 You know, you're not going to see like money coming 522 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:33,279 from China straight to Antifa. It's going to be funneled 523 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:37,160 through NGOs. It's going to be through like the Open 524 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,799 Society Foundation. You know you're looking at and that's why 525 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:44,640 they're looking at Sorrows and you know his son and 526 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,359 people associated with him has potential funders of terrorism. Once 527 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,480 these groups are you know, officially designated, and then you're 528 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:57,480 looking at RICO absoutely be applied the racketeering and you know, 529 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,839 corrupt at organization laws. So it's going to be a 530 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,480 whole of government effort. It sounds like they really get 531 00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:04,839 it going. 532 00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:07,279 Speaker 1: We praise God. I hope they do get it going, 533 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,759 because this is also going to lead back to this 534 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,920 uncomfortable reality. As I was just talking about armed cores 535 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,319 of Salt Lake City gots government money one step remove 536 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,279 just that usci D game and the man who runs that, 537 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,279 who postes as a woman and does a pretty good 538 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:25,000 job posing as a woman, was given a Young Diplomat's 539 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,119 Award by the State of Utah. And this is I 540 00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:32,160 think how blind people have been. Mike helps corporations, companies 541 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,119 secure themselves against threats, their cyber threats, their physical threat 542 00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:39,400 they can be threats of employees if you want his expertise, Mike, 543 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,680 how can people get in touch with you? 544 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:48,279 Speaker 3: Sure? Our website is atcon dot com, a d OPCN 545 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,799 dot com. Folks to follow us on x at AOC 546 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,079 dot security and with the same on Instagram. And like 547 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,480 I said, it's a there's problems out there, problems are come. 548 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,319 It's going to get worse before it gets better. And companies, 549 00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:11,640 especially ones who are industries that these leftists don't like, 550 00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:17,000 or executives who they particularly don't like. Yep, there are 551 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:20,319 threats out there, there's potential targeting, and they're gathering intelligence 552 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,839 right now. 553 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, the assassination culture didn't die with Charlie Kirk. Charlie 554 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,200 Kirk's death has brought a lot of light and it 555 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,039 does not in Vain. His organization is growing more importantly 556 00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:33,960 to me. People are coming to the Lord in record 557 00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:37,599 numbers because they've seen this evil. But it was Charlie, 558 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,160 it was twice at President Trump. It was a CEO 559 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,319 of an insurance company. There were executives at a company 560 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:47,640 that was unfortunate enough to be within the building of 561 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,640 the NFL. So, if you are a CEO, you work 562 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,640 with CEOs, your board member, be a good thing to 563 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,480 have my get in there and take a look at 564 00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:58,359 your security setup, because I'm going to tell you you're 565 00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:00,599 probably not a security think you are, And I think 566 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,359 you've discovered that many many times with CEOs and others 567 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,680 who think they get it but they don't. 568 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,119 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, absolutely, yeah. 569 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,359 Speaker 1: Right, So arrogance is not your friend, and situations like 570 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,319 this reach out to my brothers. You're having you on, 571 00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:14,079 my brother thank you for your service, and thank you 572 00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:16,279 for coming on the show and sharing your wisdom with us. 573 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: All right, anytime, son. 574 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,799 Speaker 1: This is the Todd Herbert Show. Please go be well, 575 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,559 be strong, be kind, and go out and make a 576 00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:26,519 decision to walk in the light of Christ and go 577 00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:28,279 spend some time with your beloved families. 578 00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:28,799 Speaker 2: I'm going to do