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help us move up the charts. This week on Softcore History,

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we're talking about a man who I believe may be

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the first ever person in human history who was quote

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two online, which is especially impressive considering he was born

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one hundred and forty years before the Internet even existed.

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This man spit out spicy take after spicy take in books, pamphlets,

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news articles, and everything else, and his greatest take of

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all that America should expand slavery to not only every

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black person, but just most people in general. Today, we

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are talking about George Fitzhugh, an American lawyer in the

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nineteenth century who believed that most people, no matter what

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their race was deserved to be slaves.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Softcore History.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome back to softcore History. I am

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your host, Rob Fox, joined as always by Dan Regester

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and this week special guest no One, no one else.

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We don't have a deep bench.

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Speaker 2: We don't, We truly don't. Everyone's leaving Austin.

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Speaker 1: Everyone, A lot of our friends are leaving Austin. And

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even like our normal guests couldn't be here this week,

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Boosh is moving up. He's staying in Austin, but he's

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Speaker 2: I think they hate us. It's probably it's probably the

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truth of the matter. They're like, you're not paying enough

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and we're not going to contribute.

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Speaker 1: That's act. I mean, that's an accurate statement.

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Speaker 2: So sorry, it's a podcast.

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Speaker 1: No one wanted to do it. Joel's over there editing.

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He can't can't get on the show today.

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Speaker 2: It's fine to get us. Just means I have to

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step up, yeah, which I'm not a fan of.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean maybe.

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Speaker 2: It'll improve your day, since maybe I typically like to

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pick my spots. I'm like a cheato vera when it

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comes to podcasting. No, you don't get that reference. I

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don't abud Crawford, a guy that's just you know, he's

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not a lot of volume, but I'm going for that heavy.

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Speaker 1: Hand okay, Yeah, fighting some MMA, yeah, and some boxing Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't don't watch either. Really. Yeah, I would like to,

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I don't know what's happening. Someone killed somebody, is all

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Speaker 2: There's no like equivalent to a sport you would understand

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because tennis it's not like you can pick your spots

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Speaker 1: Kind of can, but you do need to win most

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of the stuff, right.

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Speaker 2: You can't just refuse to send the ball back.

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Speaker 1: It's a bold move, I guess. But all right, you

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get this point, Yeah, just take it. I mean they

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do that sometimes, but not to the same degree. My

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favorite thing, my favorite tenn of strategy is pooping for

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Speaker 2: What do you mean? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You get bathroom breaks in between sets sometimes a player

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Djokovic is really noted for this, especially like you ice

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the other Yeah, staying there for too long about Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's a fan. I like the tennis players that

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are like brick walls where I'm not gonna really offensively,

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take the game into my own hands. But I'm gonna

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make you fuck up right right right? Well, he is

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that like a Mevedev.

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Speaker 1: He No, it's like a Rafa or a Djokovic, or

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trying to think of like the younger guy. Honestly, al

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Karaz gets to everything. Al Karaz gets too fucking everything.

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Speaker 2: But Alkaraz will try stuff. I'm talking about a guy

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that is just like all right, nope, I'm sending it over.

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it's my favorite quotbo Djovic. It's like, first he takes

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your legs, right, he makes you just work too hard

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Speaker 2: Takes your soul as you're already tired.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then you're just like then he just crushes your

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fucking soul, your hope.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, it's enough tennis talk for today. Djovic got the

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gold medal. That was the only non American I was

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Speaker 2: Did we tie in gold medals? Uh? We went, We

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we won the medal count by like a million.

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Speaker 2: I know, but we could have won if the fucking

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high jumper just split the gold.

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Speaker 1: She didn't want to. The guy, Oh, the guy didn't want.

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Speaker 2: To dude, all right. So it was before the basketball game,

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the worst sporting event I've ever seen in my life.

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bar for twenty five thirty.

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Speaker 1: Minutes, and they were like, do you guys just want

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Speaker 2: Yes? And the guy the Americans like fuck no, And

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he lost to a white Kiwi. He lost to a

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New Zealand guy. Respect that though, Actually I did too.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: I like that we could have beat China.

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Speaker 1: They'll split the gold and anything. They should have split

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a silver. What is what should have been the offer

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that neither of you did it? No gold is awarded

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for the fuck that we're actually going to cancel the sport. Yeah,

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that's insane. I guess women's volleyball loss too.

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Speaker 2: We got run by Italy. Yeah, but I didn't know

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the Italians were so good at volleyball.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these European countries are good at very

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Speaker 2: I think this is a new development for Italy.

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Speaker 1: No, they're I have Actually you are jogging a memory

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that they're generally quite good at volleyball in both men's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, handballs dominated by like the Dutch and outrageous. I

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don't know if they won or not. You could just

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I was tweeted, like countries around the tweeting other days, like.

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Speaker 1: You could just send like like all the skill players

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from like Akrons football team.

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Speaker 2: Doug, I could be on the US handball team.

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Speaker 1: Fuck, and that's game over, like a mac skill position

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football team in handball, like murders.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not it's not fair or close. Actually, a

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Speaker 2: I ignore them. I don't buy it. Yeah, blocked. That's

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a sport. There's a lot of Olympic sports that I

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Speaker 1: Handball is the number one for everyone, every white dude especially.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we can play handball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll play goalie.

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Speaker 2: I'll be the handball goalie. No, I'm blocking shots. I'm

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just gonna catch it like lacrosse and just chuck it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, I'm pitching a shutout. That's all I'm saying. Uh. Anyway,

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let's get into this week's episode. We have a good one.

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I'm excited about this one. This is actually one of

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I might be doing this a huge disservice, Like there

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might be so much more to this, and I'm just

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like skimming Wikipedia ing it. But we're softcore history. So

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just read Wikipedia. It's like, did you read the description?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for the Wikipedia da also for there did you

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find it? Did you know about this? No, we're telling

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Speaker 2: We're history aggregators, really we are. We are history aggregator caught.

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Nobody makes original content these days. Look at the Internet.

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It's all dead. We used to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gone, unless you want to go listen to

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Speaker 2: That's true. If people are raving about your sketches, check

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that shit out. I'm in an appearance you did popped

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in co starred in it, I would say so. Patreon

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Speaker 1: War stories of Jimmy Stewart. I think I'm gonna do

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another hooker diary.

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Speaker 2: We did a hooker diary we've done. The last one

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Speaker 1: Just like a Brown da Vinci code spoof.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, pair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I do love the DaVinci Code and Dan Brown,

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Speaker 2: Check that out. It was actually really good. It made

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked you even admitted that. To be honest, I

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mean Gamerspec game well, speaking of which I respect your game.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day just being a ship poster.

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Speaker 1: Suffice it to say that someone like you, who who

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pitched sending the Homeless to colonize.

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Speaker 2: Mars killed two birds with one stone.

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Speaker 1: You might be into this, gentleman we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: That was also around the same time, where like that

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Mars one mission was going on, and people will only

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signed up for a clear scam.

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Speaker 1: Just like live in a box.

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Speaker 2: Right. First off, it's a sc It was very obviously

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a scam. But second off, married people, people with children

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because there's too much radiation, because it doesn't have an atmosphere. Yeah,

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space radiation? Whatever the fuck? He just gets right in.

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Speaker 2: And all I did was suggest, hey, man, maybe didn't

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work out for a couple of people on this planet,

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those that live in la those in Austin, you know,

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the sidewalks and tents, Maybe go be king of Mars.

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, I was trying to.

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Speaker 2: Make something of yourself, and all of a sudden, you know,

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years later, Gavin Newsom's cleaning up the streets of California,

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and he could have just taken my idea back in

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twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, founded New California on Mars idiot, New California Republic.

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So this guy we're talking about today, as I read

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about him more and more, I feel like if he

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was alive today, his name is George Fitzhugh. If he

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popular and very controversial Twitter account. This is the type

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Speaker 2: Just the guy that would poke the bear. Yeah, soaked

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Speaker 1: He had wonder he had one issue in particular, So

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he George with Hugh was a lawyer turned sociologist and

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social theorist in the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 2: Oh so he thought he was smarter than everyone. Oh yeah,

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you get that lot of green in the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 1: He mostly had one particular pet cause, and that was

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his main belief was that all black people should be slaves,

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all black people. Hard to build off this to uh

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Speaker 1: That'll go bananas on YouTube. Yeah, YouTube. Short. But in

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his defense, if I can defend him for a moment,

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he also thought that most white people should be slaves.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he's fair and balanced or Fox News.

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Speaker 1: He wrote, quote, men are not born entitled to equal rights.

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It would be far nearer to truth to say that

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some were born with saddles on their backs and others

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booted and spurred to ride them. And the riding does

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them good. They need the reins, the bit and the spur.

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it's mostly that.

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Speaker 2: A socioeconomic or is it more meritocracy?

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he thinks that the way the socioeconomic landscape is laid

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out is the meritocracy already.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so if you're born poor, you deserve to be poor. Well,

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we'll get to that all right. He has a sort

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of paternalistic view of slavery universe, your ancestors for not

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working hard enough grind, not.

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Speaker 1: Being on that grind. He he has sort of like

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a universal paternalism would be his kind of point of

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view here. So, I fitz you basically looked around the

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pre Civil War South and thought, too many of these

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people are free?

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Speaker 2: How many is too many? Like what what percentage of

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the population.

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Speaker 1: He'll actually give us kind of a percentage in a

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little bit, We'll.

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Speaker 2: Like, only five thousand people in this splenet should be free,

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a kind of like it was a low number. So

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he has developing the society that's elysium.

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Speaker 1: It's not far it's not far off from that. So

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he basically thought that modernity's political ideas, modernity being the

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eighteen forties and fifties, were ruining human beings who were

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happier to have their purpose spelled out for them. But

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liberalism and capitalism had freed too many of these people,

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but they didn't know what to do with their freedom.

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Speaker 2: And people yearned for direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you yearn what is it? What does Loki say

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in The Avengers? He's like, you yearned to be ruled.

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Speaker 2: Isn't life simpler this way? I can't Yeah, I can't

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quote Loki. I can quote Loki. I don't arrive for

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the movies that hard. I've seen them once.

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Speaker 1: So basically, he's like, people are happier when they don't

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have to worry about so much stuff. And who has

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to worry about less than a slave?

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Speaker 2: Got everything taken care of. You got a roof over

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your head, food provided literally literally, Sometimes you might get

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punished if you don't meet quota. Well, we kind of

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on you, right, We'll get to that too.

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Speaker 1: He says that quote slavey, slavery to human masters was

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less intolerable than slavery to capital. So essentially, like humans

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are gonna be nicer to you than than the markets

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within the system because the mark Yeah, the system doesn't care.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So he was a pro slavery, pro commie.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: This man had a very unique point of view.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, this guy's Twitter would have crushed, Like,

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this guy would have fucking two million followers on Twitter

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because everybody, ain't nobody think they're a slave. Everyone they'd

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have a million follow and all million of them would

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be except for maybe a few deranged chicks, like that

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Pearl chick who's like take away that women's rice to

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vos like that.

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Speaker 2: It's just like, can we just talk about for a second. Yeah,

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I know how insufferable x slash Twitter has become.

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Speaker 1: I know you hate Twitter now.

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Speaker 2: It's awful, Like it is, truly some of the worst

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stuff imaginable.

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Speaker 1: You got to curate your content better, bro.

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Speaker 2: I used to, and then I worked at a place

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that cared about politics and now it's ruined. No, you know,

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it used to just be jokes. Actually, Twitter just used

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to be jokes.

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Speaker 1: You know what the problem is is that Elon Musk

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bought Twitter, turned it into x and freed your algorithm.

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You were a slave to an algorithm that was serving

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you what it needs, but it thought you needed to

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hear shit post. Now you're free.

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Speaker 2: Now I see the N word every other post and

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you're getting a white dudes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're getting everything. You were happy your slave.

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Speaker 2: I guess so to the algorithm. Algorithm knows what I want. Yeah,

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but now the new algorithm's kind of serving me just nothing,

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just nothing but ass.

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Speaker 1: It's like a lack thereof you know what I mean.

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It's like a lack of algorithm, and yeah, you're free

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and you're worse off, and it's just two sides battling.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't care about either of you.

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Speaker 1: You might be a fitz uist, are you a You're

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a social fitsuist, a tech fitzuist. You want the algorithm

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to do everything for you, so you don't have to

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think you're it's easier that way.

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Speaker 2: As Jesse Jesse Wiseman's kind of like that where she

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just wants things provided for her with ads.

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Speaker 1: We should have had her on for this one.

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Speaker 2: No, that would have been great, because you know, sometimes

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I do buy the things that are served up in

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an advertisement, sometimes a shirt or I can tell design

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the need throughout my household.

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Speaker 1: For a fact, the sweatshirt and shorts I am wearing

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algorithm provided.

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Speaker 2: But Twitter, for whatever reason, just serves me nothing but

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things I do not want to see it.

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Speaker 1: And you see, like see dead people every day.

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Speaker 2: I see someone die at least four times a day

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now between like the Ukraine war ship in Gaza and

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then yeah, just some random dude in the streets of

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like Sacramento getting murked at a gas station.

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Speaker 1: Oh good times.

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Speaker 2: No warning there's no like you know. And then underneath too,

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it's nothing but porn porn bots you and then none

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of the replies have anything to do with the actual

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content provided in the original post. It's either porn bots

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or it's videos that have nothing to do with it.

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It's like the worst you social media out there, you

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actually are.

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Speaker 1: I just get like baseball and stuff. I mean, I

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get politics too, but I get like baseball. That's the

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thing about death videos too. You can't look away, no, no, no, it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, all right, fine, I guess I'll click on

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this fucking drone video and see a rush and get

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is just like hambling like.

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Speaker 1: A Russian like slave conscript who was like a prisoner

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who was forced to get in the army.

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Speaker 2: Some dark shit, dude. I saw a Ukrainian soldier pick

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up the phone of a dead Russian and call his

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girlfriend to tell him he's dead.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty metal.

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Speaker 2: Or she called the dead Russian. He answered the FaceTime

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and showed her the body. Oh what pretty sick? Are

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we sure we're on the right side? I don't know.

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That's pretty dark though.

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Speaker 1: Send me that video. Though I kind of want to

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see it, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to look for that. I don't want that

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in my like at least search history. And then Google's going.

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I mean, they're getting sued left and right for the

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things they're doing. Everything is bad. We need to blow

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everything up. I think we need to get offline. I

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know this is our careers and this is how we

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make money. But I'd be fine going working the oyster

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farms with Jake if it meant the Internet was over

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do it? I guess no, it would have to come

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with Okay, you can't the total destruction of our platform

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and of.

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Speaker 1: Our You'll only give up your platform if everyone's platform dies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, deep platform, everyone forget just Rogan everyone?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Should we uh?

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Speaker 2: We have to make that t shirt that might sell

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deep platform? Everyone?

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Speaker 1: Deplatform everyone. I want no one to have a voice.

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You're a fit fewest, You're a fits Youwest all right?

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So Fitz you himself was unsurprisingly not that great with

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people live at the party. No, and thus he did

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not frequently touch grass, as the Internet kids say.

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Speaker 2: Man, dude, sometimes you just gotta go outside.

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Speaker 1: Touch grass, bro, touch grass.

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Speaker 2: So fucking podcast quipments needs to be more expensive. Most

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people need to talk.

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Speaker 1: I do. I mean that is deplatform everyone price to

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everyone out. Yeah that's what that was my Uh, if

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you really wanted to like I mean no, no, like

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actual like gun owner would be for this. But my

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theory on how to like stop gun crime is you

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make handguns illegal and then the only people who can

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afford guns. It's like a rifle at that point, and

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rifles are I mean, it's like a thousand dollars for

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a fucking.

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Speaker 2: Oh I have all the answers for that shit. So

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but the left doesn't want to listen to them. The

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right doesn't want to listen to me either.

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Speaker 1: Criminals are priced out.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to get rid of guns in

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this country, the easiest thing is to just like make

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them as gay as possible.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to gay. You have

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to gay shame to get rid of.

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Speaker 2: Guns, Like, oh you have a fucking gun, you pussy.

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Speaker 1: You have to be homophobic and misogynistic to enter.

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Speaker 2: Oh the left does someone or fifteen look at that

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limpris bitch.

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Speaker 1: That's how you know the left doesn't actually care about

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school shooting. It don't because they won't call someone fucking gay.

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Speaker 2: For real, men shoot compound bows. All right, there's my

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platform you know there was a bow and arrow mass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, arrowing in France.

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Speaker 2: I think that was kind of dope though, just fucking

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Hawkeye and everyone from the building.

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Speaker 1: I mean respect. If you if you're going to commit

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to that, then you just gotta like you gotta give

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it to him, so fits you to me. As I

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read more about him, I was like, this dude was

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literally two online, one hundred and forty years before the

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internet existed. He might be the first two online man

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in recorded history. Though he did get married. He married

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Metcalf Mary Metcalf brock and brou in eighteen twenty nine,

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and he practiced. He had a law practice in Port Royal, Virginia.

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He did not get out much something. Yeah, he didn't

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get out much, which, by the way, seems like if

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you're going to judge society, you might want to walk

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around in it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: No, why would you do that? Why would you have

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things that would actively counteract your points right with evidence date?

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Speaker 1: Why would you go seek different data?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Actually, in whose defense he did so? He did do

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that a little.

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Speaker 2: He did do that, if anything, seek confirmation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did read opposing points of view. But the

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whole problem is he only read, so he spent all

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his time in this like rickety Rundown mansion that he

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inherited from his wife's family. The mansion was mostly notable

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for being riddled with bats, just bats everywhere in this mansion.

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Speaker 2: Well, now that we still do have a platform, I

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would like to just put out my take that no

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one should read like men. What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I actually had a take. I didn't know how

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to put it on Twitter, but I'll say it here.

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Speaker 2: Is that you.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't read your children books because that's analog screen time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, but also, why are you reading the

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words of other men? It's cooked? Yeah, yeah, write your

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own book, go out and experience things, and only read

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your own books. There's nothing worse. You know. There used

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to be movie quote guy, but now.

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Speaker 1: We've it's a gift and meme guy.

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Speaker 2: We've evolved into Oh I read three books and now

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just quote everything that are red. Guy. He tried. You

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try to appear to be more intellectual because you spew

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out the same regurgitated bullshit. You know, three books, you've read,

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read your entire life, and then all of a sudden,

470
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,920
you're smart. No dog, you.

471
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: Clapping at Jake right now for reading one Courtmack novel.

472
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, yeah, Jake, I know you hear me

473
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,920
right now. I know you still listen, you bitch.

474
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: Should we come up with a slur for Jake for

475
00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:26,119
as an oyster farmer like a cage Polar?

476
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,799
Speaker 2: Okay? I thought, I mean, there was a very clear

477
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,920
and obvious what slurer we could have went with?

478
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: What begins with k oh? Yeah, I didn't mean a

479
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:41,720
Jewish thing. I meant an oyster farmer slur like I

480
00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:42,559
like cage Polar.

481
00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, Oh, that's what I was going

482
00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:49,119
to go with. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I

483
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,279
don't know what the fuck you're talking about?

484
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: What about? Who does? Anyway, We're glad that cage Pollar's gone?

485
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,880
He uh so, Fitz, you've spent most of his days

486
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,480
just in his mansion, in the little library he had,

487
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,519
just reading books, newspapers, pamphlets, reading, reading, reading, reading, reading,

488
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:16,240
never going out, and pamphlets by the way, and first

489
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,440
well newspapers right at the time we've done. We did

490
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,119
an episode on this a while ago. It's one of

491
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,039
my favorite episodes I've ever written. I think it was

492
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,559
entitled something like we never wanted real news, yeap about

493
00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:30,240
how you know people today whine about the media being

494
00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:33,640
super biased and all this stuff, and it's always been

495
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,839
that way. It started with the penny papers in the

496
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,680
eighteen forties. In fact, there was just a weird period

497
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,480
of time from like the nineteen fifties through the nineteen

498
00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:46,960
nineties where things were actually kind of neutral and unbiased.

499
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: I mean depaired. Yellow propaganda start with the explosion of

500
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:51,799
the main.

501
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: Yellow journalism was around in the Gilded Age. Yeah, and

502
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,240
then but.

503
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,279
Speaker 2: That was kind of like the major catastrophic moment was

504
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:02,039
when they blew up the main.

505
00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so the main exploded and the newspapers immediately

506
00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:10,400
ran with Spain blew it up even though it was

507
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:12,279
it was definitely an accident.

508
00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: Was not an accent. It was definitely us, but it

509
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,119
was an accident, or like the was it Cuba? It

510
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,720
was in Cuba, but it was it was either US

511
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,319
or the Cubans that were on our side.

512
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: No, it was I believe it was an accidental explosion.

513
00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:26,559
Speaker 2: Due pretty I'm pretty sure we did it.

514
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: Oh well, I think it was an accidental explosion that

515
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,160
the media ran with because they wanted a war to

516
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:32,759
sell papers.

517
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: Nothing's an accident.

518
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:35,839
Speaker 1: Well, it also could have been if you want to

519
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:38,799
go that conspiracy route on the Main could have been

520
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:41,759
in the US, I guess, or more likely it could

521
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:43,599
have been Cuals.

522
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,759
Speaker 2: There was so at the time likely the Cuban nationals

523
00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:46,759
to get them get us on.

524
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,559
Speaker 1: The big story at the time leading up to the

525
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:54,039
Main and the Spanish Man War was how badly the

526
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:55,400
Spanish treated the Cubans.

527
00:25:55,519 --> 00:26:00,319
Speaker 2: Essentially so and we had that ship. Yeah, we gave

528
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,880
up Cuba. I that fucking Travesy.

529
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,079
Speaker 1: Slam my head into a wall every time I think

530
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:09,759
about that. Uh So, Again, most of what he was

531
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:14,559
learning about society was from the very you know, propaganda

532
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,359
news of the day pamphlets, which is essentially like a

533
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,240
Twitter account or a blog like that. You know, it's

534
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:26,799
like somebody substack essentially, and uh yeah, and and that pamphlets,

535
00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:28,440
news and and and whatever.

536
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Books and it just sounds like this guy got no bitches.

537
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: Well he had a bitch, he had a wife, but

538
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,640
I only gave her fucked her no bitches, Like he

539
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,440
was just in the library all day. So essentially this

540
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:38,920
guy was.

541
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:40,279
Speaker 2: What cheated on him all the time.

542
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: One would think, yeah, essentially this guy was, like, imagine

543
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,759
a person today who never leaves the house. But and

544
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:50,559
and but like is a is an information addict who

545
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,200
is constantly putting cable news and Twitter into their fucking brain.

546
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 2: They can't open the door and leave their residence and

547
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,640
they have to get everything door dashed pretty much.

548
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, regardless of political affiliation, imagine that person. Think

549
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:10,720
about how you imagine that person's brain works. You probably

550
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,240
know a person not unlike that, not terribly unlike that.

551
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,960
That person's brain is fucking broken. That is George fitzs you,

552
00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:21,079
that's a nightmare person. To his credit, I though, like

553
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,720
I said earlier, he did read a lot of a

554
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,480
lot of opposing views. Again, he thought that everyone should

555
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,240
be a slave, pretty much, and so he read a

556
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,079
lot of abolitionists pamphlets and newspapers and stuff like that

557
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:39,240
to kind of get the opposing pov.

558
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,519
Speaker 2: But gotta get ammunition to attack your enemy.

559
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: If all you're doing is getting information from the loudest

560
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,200
people who just write their strong opinions down, whether those

561
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,079
opinions are wrong or right or whatever, that's not a

562
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,440
good way. You're not going to get a good view

563
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,160
of the world doing that. No, No, matter what they're writing. No,

564
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,960
you gotta go out and live in the world to

565
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:06,079
understand the world. So that's how he learned about the world.

566
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,759
More or less. He did practice a lot of like that,

567
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:09,720
but he really he was a shut in by all accounts.

568
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: Dude, imagine the generation coming up now.

569
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: I remember someone I won't say names, but we know them.

570
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:23,400
They have a kid who's like fifteen or sixteen, and

571
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,920
they were telling me that their kid would often just

572
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:31,440
fall asleep on FaceTime with their friends.

573
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,839
Speaker 2: Yep, it's gonna be like no, it's gonna be worse though,

574
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:39,480
because with the advancement of AI, the advancement of being

575
00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:43,720
able to manipulate video and photos, you're not gonna know

576
00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:44,599
what's real and what's not.

577
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: I actually think you're better off just assuming nothing's real.

578
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're gonna get to the point where

579
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:53,960
video evidence is gonna be dismissed from court. Oh yeah, easily.

580
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can't wait.

581
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,119
Speaker 2: Just gonna be so much cram.

582
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So, after unsuccessfully trying his hand at his

583
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:09,039
own pamphlets, Fitzhugh finally published his first book in eighteen

584
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,240
fifty four, and this book was decently successed, not huge successful.

585
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:16,160
The second one was the bigger success, but did well enough.

586
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:20,720
It was entitled Sociology for the South, or the Failure

587
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,960
of Free Society, which, by the way, most people are

588
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:26,119
most historians are pretty sure, is the first book that

589
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,799
ever had sociology in the title. It took on some

590
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:37,160
big names and some big themes. It thought capitalism was

591
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,920
bad and Adam Smith was a dipshit.

592
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: I disagree. I just disagree that capitalism's bad.

593
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,079
Speaker 1: His biggest enemy is capitalism basically throughout most of his life.

594
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,640
It is also extremely critical of two noted dipshits in

595
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,920
Fitzhugh's mind, John Locke and Thomas Jefferson. He fucking thinks

596
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,119
Thomas Jefferson, it's the dumbest asshole. He thinks the Declaration

597
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,240
of Independence is full of shit.

598
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: He was just like, we need slavery everywhere. Keep the wheelchairing, yeah,

599
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:15,799
he said of the Declaration of Independence.

600
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:21,359
Speaker 1: It quote deserves the tumid yet appropriate epitaphs which Major

601
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,400
Lee somewhere applies to the writings of mister Jefferson. It

602
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:30,400
is exuberantly false and aborescently fallacious. It's full shit, full shit.

603
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,880
Basically the entire theme of the book is that capitalism

604
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,319
and liberty have ruined humanity and we have to go

605
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,079
back to feudalism. Asat he thinks it. Feudalism is the

606
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:43,160
perfect human state.

607
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: You have a little lord, little liege, lord, look over everyone.

608
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: We did an episode on that meme that goes around

609
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,519
from time to time where it's like a feudal serf

610
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,039
only worked like half the year. Basically like you work

611
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:01,200
more than a feudal surf. But what that meme doesn't

612
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,039
take into account on purpose probably uh, is that they

613
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:09,279
only worked for their lord x amount of days a year.

614
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:12,319
So yeah, they had more days off than you working

615
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:17,160
at whatever fucking cubicle job you have. However, every fucking

616
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:23,119
second that they weren't tilling the fields for their fucking

617
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,000
duke or whatever, Uh.

618
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:28,519
Speaker 2: They had to do all their other work, all of

619
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:32,200
their other work. Also, if they call their banners, maybe

620
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,200
you gotta go five for them.

621
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:35,119
Speaker 1: War you don't give a fuck about. Yeah, I mean

622
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:37,200
there's you could get drafted now, I guess maybe, But

623
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:40,400
so like anything like that, and I will like tending

624
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,559
to your own livestock, getting your own crops, getting your

625
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:46,519
own like fixing shit in your on your house, everything

626
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:50,319
every fucking second of a serf's life with work, So

627
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,279
that meme is a lie.

628
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: We did a whole episode of that basically, uh, but.

629
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: Fits you.

630
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,319
Speaker 2: You know your your lord is it's Will's far Go,

631
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:07,359
Bak of America, Man Lockheed Martin, Man Raytheon. I trust

632
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,200
in them, that's whoever you work for.

633
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,039
Speaker 1: I trust it.

634
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:11,319
Speaker 2: I trust them to keep me saying back in the

635
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:13,880
day was NBC for me those dicks.

636
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:17,839
Speaker 1: Part of me is a fitzguist in that regard where

637
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,039
it's just like, do I.

638
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:22,839
Speaker 2: Really want to get rid of the booty industrial complex?

639
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,160
I feel pretty safe. Yeah I do. I would. I

640
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,119
would probably get rid of it.

641
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck off, communist cook.

642
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,279
Speaker 2: I would probably get rid of Conflix. We don't need

643
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:33,359
to be involved in. See.

644
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: That's the yeah, that's the uh, that's the plantation I

645
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,119
live on. That's the fits you plantation I live on.

646
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,759
So he wrote in the book about capitalism, add to

647
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,680
the evidence of these social philosophers who watching closely the

648
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,920
working of the system, have proclaimed to the world it's

649
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,480
total failure the condition of the working classes. And we

650
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:58,599
have conclusive proof that liberty and equality have not conduced

651
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:02,119
to enhance the comfort or happiness of the people, Crime

652
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,440
and pauperism have increased. Riots, trade unions, strikes for higher wages,

653
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:10,640
discontent breaking out into revolution are things of daily occurrence

654
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,559
and show that the poor see and feel quite as

655
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:16,759
clearly as the philosophers that their condition is far worse

656
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:20,680
under the new than under the old order of things. So, basically,

657
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:23,319
if society is so great now with all this liberty,

658
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,640
then why is everyone yelling so much? And things aren't perfect?

659
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: Less opinions, less cooks.

660
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:33,039
Speaker 1: I think his argument is a basic and I actually

661
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,480
kind of appreciate it for how funny it is.

662
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:35,759
Speaker 2: Is.

663
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:38,079
Speaker 1: His argument was basically like you could tell people who

664
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:41,000
were happier under feudalism because look how much quieter they were.

665
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: They didn't have a voice.

666
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one could plained under feudalism.

667
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: For them, No one fucking could complain now.

668
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: But it's funny. It's a funny, Like he's not his

669
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,119
logic is never great, but man, he's.

670
00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: Fucking he's just fire and takes though.

671
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:00,599
Speaker 1: I mean he is.

672
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,039
Speaker 2: This man is take city, and you're gonna have want

673
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:09,039
to back your own takes with illogical fallacies. Yeah. So

674
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:09,719
I think.

675
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,039
Speaker 1: When I got when I was saying about this episode

676
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,039
where I was like, I'm I probably I'm not doing

677
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,039
it justice just because he wrote so much. So he

678
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:20,880
wrote these two books. His pamphlet career didn't take off.

679
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,280
But on his Wikipedia alone, not even in the sources,

680
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,559
just enlisted other works, hundreds of articles. And these articles

681
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,880
are not like an eight hundred word column in you know,

682
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,840
Newsweek or something like that. These are long pages and

683
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,519
pages of opinions that like, you could probably do a

684
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:42,239
sweet deep dive on it. But again, this is softcore history,

685
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,960
so we're obviously not doing that.

686
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,559
Speaker 2: He's doing a thesis on every single topic.

687
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, it's yeah, you could do that. And

688
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,320
he had time again to online. This guy's a super

689
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,519
user on Twitter, Like he is tweeting all fucking.

690
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: Day, and what else is he gonna do?

691
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,039
Speaker 1: He doesn't have anything else to do. It is not

692
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:00,760
of his home practices law, I guess, but like fun.

693
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: Does he though, because actually he'd be a great lawyer.

694
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:05,360
He might.

695
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: He commits to the argument.

696
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: He might be one of the best lawyers as long

697
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,119
as he does the proper research and work.

698
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he commits to the argument. And here's

699
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,639
an average like he is like an obsessive reader, like

700
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:20,199
he reads constantly. He also argued that the reason there

701
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:24,000
are revolutions and riots under liberty and capitalism is essentially

702
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,800
that most people yearn to be ruled and they're scared

703
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,800
and confused, so they start just lashing out.

704
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: Do you buy that? Uh?

705
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,519
Speaker 1: I think people.

706
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: I think people like routine.

707
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: If people do like routine and they like purpose, which

708
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,719
is two things, he argues for why they should be slaves.

709
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: But I don't know if they go hand in hand though.

710
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:51,239
No purpose and routine do not. Routine almost feels like

711
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,519
you're obligated you need.

712
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: That's not purpose though, Pursue your purpose with the routine.

713
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,679
Speaker 2: Although I do kind of agree though not everyone needs

714
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,440
to follow their dreams, right, That's that's how we get

715
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,119
an environment that nobody can live in.

716
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,679
Speaker 1: Oh, we'll get to that.

717
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: We need we just need dudes to pave roads.

718
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or even like actually so the roads.

719
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: We need people that you know, you don't grow up

720
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,280
wanting to do construction, But who the fuck's going to

721
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,880
build the houses?

722
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: I feel like the road paving and house building takes

723
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,559
care of itself. With immigration, I'm more worried about kind

724
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:34,960
of what you said of people not wanting to be

725
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:36,719
plumbers or I think we were talking about it in

726
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the car a while batter Range, just like there was

727
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,320
one year saying like, uh, like who runs like power plants?

728
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:45,639
Speaker 2: Right?

729
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:47,679
Speaker 1: How many young people are like, dude, I want to

730
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,400
be in charge of a power plant, or.

731
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,679
Speaker 2: Just anyone that goes to trade school?

732
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,119
Speaker 1: Yeah?

733
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:54,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what we really I do think there's a

734
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:58,840
pivot to people realize in college isn't necessarily uh the

735
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,039
way to go, especially if you're not going to be

736
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,559
a doctor, a lawyer or an engineer. Yeah. So I

737
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:06,639
think the next generation coming up might actually go back

738
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,119
to a trade.

739
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: To see that, or they just skip college to be

740
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a YouTube star.

741
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be the downfall society. Really, Yeah, we

742
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,519
don't need this a deep platform everyone. This is terrible.

743
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,559
But at the end of the day, too, how many

744
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people are wasting away at these middle management jobs at

745
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,519
don't really matter.

746
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: A while ago, they have an hour work a day, they.

747
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,679
Speaker 2: Fuck around for seven hours listening to us. I know,

748
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:34,679
I thought it was.

749
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: A while ago when I was working at some like

750
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:41,000
stupid marketing job. I like worked with a lot of

751
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:46,000
like smart talented people and I was just like, you

752
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:50,679
would be so much more useful like teaching or something,

753
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,360
you know, like teaching high schoolers or teaching kids than

754
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,199
like making ads for a local air conditioning company, Like

755
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,320
what's the point of that.

756
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: But then on the other into that kind of razor

757
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:04,920
is the people that are like so pro communist and

758
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,159
they talk about what they're gonna do when you know,

759
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,000
when they're in their commune and they're in their socialist

760
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,559
society after the revolution, and they're all like, oh, I'm

761
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:18,440
gonna be a poet inside a coffeehouse and it's like, no, no,

762
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:18,760
you're not.

763
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,079
Speaker 1: Or like the most the closest to blue collar they'll

764
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:22,400
get is like I'm going to be a baker.

765
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: It's like you got to contribute, dog, Like if you

766
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,360
want this society, the thing you want the revolution shove,

767
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,000
you better pull your share, dog, because you're very expendable. Yeah.

768
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fucking no one, No one needs a U

769
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:39,239
what are the what is it called the Middle Ages?

770
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,599
The like tribune person who plays a little lute and

771
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sings poetry.

772
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Speaker 2: Forget the name, it doesn't matter. Piss me off, doesn't matter, dude.

773
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need that person. And and by the way,

774
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:56,960
but you don't.

775
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: You don't need people being middleman for like hard mine.

776
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: No, if it's you is all about that belief. He

777
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:08,360
is very anti individuality. We'll get into that. So he

778
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:14,280
essentially says that every society has what he calls a substratum.

779
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:17,199
Not everyone's meant to be free and this is better

780
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:17,719
for them.

781
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: What if we do limit the options of like you

782
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,760
still have the ability to choose, but instead of a

783
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,920
million options, you have twelve.

784
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean realistically that's what you have.

785
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: Anyway, it becomes like a video game where you have

786
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,840
to pick your specialty.

787
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's like you know, you open Netflix, it's

788
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,119
too much to watch. You don't know what to watch.

789
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: Dude, you spend forty five minutes scrolling. Nothing's good. I

790
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,239
do think nothing's appealing.

791
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,559
Speaker 1: If you want to get people into like trades and shit,

792
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:48,400
like that's talk that you're saying earlier the best thing

793
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,960
to do, Like if you want to convince people to

794
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,440
be a plumber whatever, I don't think it's actually a

795
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,840
heard a plumber, but is like to going to engineering

796
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,119
or whatever. It is like just like you got to

797
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:02,159
tell people, like most of you don't have dreams, but

798
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:06,480
you can still have lots of money. And the actually

799
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,360
the big best life hack to getting lots of money

800
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,159
at this point, at this point is like being a

801
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:10,639
plumber or.

802
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: We're like going into a field with not a lot

803
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:12,840
of competition.

804
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: H hvac repair guy in fucking Texas.

805
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: You become the best at that. You're gonna be hired

806
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,119
over and over and over again. You're gonna make a ship,

807
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:21,559
a ton of money, rack up that money, start a

808
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,599
good family. I think I think we're gonna go back

809
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:24,920
to that.

810
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,639
Speaker 1: That's what That's what we need a value again, it's

811
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:27,320
just making a lot of.

812
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: Money, make a lot of money, dude.

813
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:32,679
Speaker 1: Like what we we need to We need to devalue

814
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,119
fame and value money.

815
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: This wasn't our first choice. No, no, no, we're making money,

816
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,320
dog doing what we can. We're trying.

817
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,159
Speaker 1: Uh So he wrote about the substratum. If it's you did,

818
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:49,079
Every social structure must have its substratum. In a free society,

819
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,880
the substratum the weak, poor, and ignorant is born down

820
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,519
upon and oppressed with continually increasing weight by all above.

821
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:58,599
So in a free society, in capitalism, you're just constantly

822
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,760
fucking weighed down upon on, We have solved. But then

823
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,119
he writes, we have solved the problem of relieving, relieving

824
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:08,000
the substratum from the pressure from above. The slaves of

825
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,639
the substratum and the master's feelings and interests alike prevent

826
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,039
him from bearing down upon and oppressing them. With us.

827
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,760
The pressure on society is like that of air or water,

828
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:21,079
so equally diffused as not anywhere to be felt. So

829
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,480
basically he's saying, we figured out how to be nice

830
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:25,800
to the substratum so they don't feel so bad, and

831
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,119
partly because it's in our best interests to be nice

832
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:34,079
to them. And he actually was very against rough treatment

833
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,400
of slaves. He there was a book at the time

834
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,079
called Types of Mankind. It was sort of the typical

835
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,159
like racial pseudoscience that was popular from then up to

836
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:46,119
through the Gilded Age, you know what I mean, Like

837
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:48,880
like a like in what do you call it, the

838
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,639
Quentin Tarantino movie, Jo, You're paying out the school, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

839
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:56,480
yah yeah, So that's like that type of situation. Types

840
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,119
of Mankind was like that type of book fits He

841
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:00,400
was not a fan. He wrote, he wrote of it,

842
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:03,880
we abhor the doctrine of the types of mankind first,

843
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,360
because it is at war with Scripture, which is a

844
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,599
whole other can of worms about him in Scripture. And

845
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,480
I'm not sure that Jesus was super into slavery, but anyway,

846
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,800
he says, which teaches us that the whole human race

847
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,159
is descended from a common parentage, that being Scripture. And secondly,

848
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,840
because it encourages and incites brutal masters to treat negroes

849
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,840
not as weak, ignorant and dependent brethren, but as wicked

850
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,679
beasts without the pale of humanity.

851
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:33,639
Speaker 2: So he's He's like, they're people, man, Black people are people.

852
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:38,199
Speaker 1: They're just helpless people that we need to be nice

853
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,760
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Kaba purchase. So essentially, again, like you said earlier, people

1057
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care about people. So it's better to be enslaved to

1058
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a person than to the markets. Because the system doesn't

1059
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,400
care about you, right, the system will be mean to you.

1060
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:03,599
People will be nice to you, which I don't know

1061
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,519
about that. He also goes in on cities in the North.

1062
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,559
Hates cities in the North.

1063
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,599
Speaker 2: Damn the Yankees.

1064
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Well, just cities. It's kind of like what you've heard

1065
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,639
about cities here.

1066
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: He's pool of Vermont in New Hampshire.

1067
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,159
Speaker 1: I guess I mean, but he's I'll just read it

1068
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:23,719
because it's he says about this with them, it's the

1069
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,440
pressure of the enormous screw, never yielding, continually increasing. Free

1070
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:30,079
laborers are a little better than trespassers on this earth

1071
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:32,880
given by God to all mankind. The birds of the

1072
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,400
air have their nests, the foxes have holes, but they

1073
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,719
the laborers have not where to lay their heads. They

1074
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,880
are driven to cities to dwell in damp and crowded cellars,

1075
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:44,880
and thousands are even forced to lie in the open air.

1076
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:47,840
This accounts for the rapid growth of northern cities. The

1077
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,880
feudal barons were more generous and hospitable and less tyrannical

1078
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:53,840
than the petty landholders of modern times.

1079
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 2: So basically he's.

1080
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: Saying no one actually wanted to live in Boston and

1081
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,039
New York or Philly. The reason these are growing is

1082
00:54:01,039 --> 00:54:02,960
because they're a jam in twenty two room and there.

1083
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,039
Speaker 2: Were hobos everywhere.

1084
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: So it's just like he's saying that the economic success

1085
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,119
of these cities is like a lie.

1086
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: Now, don't get me wrong, he is right.

1087
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: Working conditions and factories at this time are a fucking nightmare.

1088
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,440
We're just greasing gears with Irish fucking intestines, but.

1089
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,159
Speaker 2: Three or four year old into the factory. Yeah, but

1090
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,079
he is also extremely down. Those tiny hands can get

1091
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:28,480
into the crevices.

1092
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: They can get the other bones out.

1093
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything that kind of jams up the line, sending

1094
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,239
the child, sending the toddler, he'll be able to kind

1095
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,199
of fix that issue. He'll get grind up. But he's

1096
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:45,360
so small that the assembly line keeps going.

1097
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: Boy, boy, get over here, bring me the boy. Yeah,

1098
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,599
and then that taller guess. So yeah, it's all it's

1099
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:56,000
all fun.

1100
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Speaker 2: I mean, if I was living it back then and

1101
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,519
I had a big family, my strategy would be I'm

1102
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:06,039
going to send in all my four to ten year

1103
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:11,519
old children around the neighborhood to be chimney sweeps. Oh yeah,

1104
00:55:11,639 --> 00:55:14,239
as one of them or two of them are actually

1105
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,920
working on the chimney rob the other people blind.

1106
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the child chimney sweep picture I have, Yeah,

1107
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,480
where it's like a fucking three year old. Like with

1108
00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:29,159
his dad, they both were like he entangles three year old.

1109
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: That's going to be a distraction, right, everyone that's in

1110
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,960
the home watching the five year old sweep your chimney

1111
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:41,159
just covered in you know, dust, And I mean that

1112
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,840
kid is like black long by ten.

1113
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,159
Speaker 1: Also, I don't under like I my child is one

1114
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:48,800
less mount to feed. My child is almost three, my

1115
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,559
oldest child. He will literally be three and less than

1116
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:55,599
a month. And I cannot explain to you how badly

1117
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,840
he would do at cleaning anything. I asked him to

1118
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:01,320
his hands, and he doesn't do it.

1119
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,559
Speaker 2: He's a soft hands. He has a soft hands.

1120
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: His hands are verse.

1121
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 2: It's the way you're raising your kid. If I was

1122
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,280
in the picture a little bit more, he'd be a hardened.

1123
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:13,679
Uh you know, paycheck better his job. Yeah, he'd be

1124
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,119
working right now. I would make him work, I know.

1125
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,079
Is there a reason? I mean, you guys should move

1126
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,920
to Arkansas really if you want to? For what the

1127
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,840
wheels moving child.

1128
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: Labor if they have good child labor less.

1129
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: Oh, they got rid of it, I think. Oh yeah,

1130
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,360
hell yeah, that Tyson factory needs needs more chicken. Yeah.

1131
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,480
What do you think is in the nuggets? Dude? Kids

1132
00:56:35,519 --> 00:56:43,039
eating kids, cannibals, dude. Apparently there's a pretty good over

1133
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,679
fifty percent chance that every human being in the United

1134
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:51,960
States at this point has ingested other humans. Hell yeah,

1135
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,079
from what like a finger? The food that is, I

1136
00:56:55,119 --> 00:56:59,119
guess crops and everything that are grown with human decomposition.

1137
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: Oh, you've told me about this before.

1138
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we grow food with human bodies, with human bones. Yeah,

1139
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:12,239
well that used to be a big thing back. We've

1140
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,840
done an episode on that too, where they went to

1141
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,719
Waterloo to kind of get all the dead bodies to

1142
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:20,800
sell us fertilizer.

1143
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well first they took the teeth for dentshers

1144
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:25,960
and shit, but yeah, they did use the bones and shit.

1145
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,079
Speaker 2: And that has continued to go on to this day

1146
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,400
in I think, like every state but Idaho. It's something random.

1147
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: Potatoes don't need it.

1148
00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:40,159
Speaker 2: Potatoes don't grow with dead bodies apparently, Yeah, I mean

1149
00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:41,920
the Irish know, Yeah, the Irish know.

1150
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,639
Speaker 1: So, Fitz, you also wrote quote, the slave always has

1151
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:48,960
a home, always an interest in the proceeds of the soil.

1152
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:52,360
So how do we fix all society's ills according to

1153
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,559
fits you more slavery, more.

1154
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,559
Speaker 2: Slavery, double down.

1155
00:57:56,679 --> 00:57:59,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is but one remedy for this evil, he writes,

1156
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:02,039
So inherent in free society and that.

1157
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: Thing, right, if everyone's a slave, is anyone a slave?

1158
00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:06,119
Speaker 1: Well not everyone's a slave.

1159
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:09,119
Speaker 2: Like ninety nine percent of the population is a slave.

1160
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:12,719
You're really not a slave, You're just the norm.

1161
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just another You're just you're just a dude. Yeah,

1162
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,920
so inherent in free society, and that is to identify

1163
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,679
the interests of the weak and the strong, the poor

1164
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:23,599
and the rich. Domestic slavery does is far better than

1165
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:28,880
any other institution. And he was actually kind of critical

1166
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:34,239
of feudalism for not being overtly obvious in declaring that

1167
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,679
serfs or slaves. He's like, they should have had the

1168
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:40,079
balls to say it. Just call them slaves what they are.

1169
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,280
But either way, he wrote that every great ancient civilization

1170
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,679
was great because of slavery. Not only were societies like

1171
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,880
Roman Greece great, but they were better than modern America

1172
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:54,599
or England or France. Their art was better, their philosophy

1173
00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:56,639
was better, so on and so forth, and he writes,

1174
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,320
but this high civilization and domestic slavery did not merely coexist,

1175
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,719
They were cause and effect. So essentially, Fitzhugh concluded not

1176
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,599
only should all free black people be immediately enslaved because

1177
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,039
capitalism and competition between workers put black people at an

1178
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:16,880
immediate disadvantage since they weren't as smart as white people,

1179
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,159
but also, quote every other form of government than that

1180
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,360
of slavery has failed in the case of the negro

1181
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,079
He is an enemy to himself and an intolerable pest

1182
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:32,119
and nuisance of society. Experience has clearly proved that it

1183
00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:36,960
is the practicable mode of governing them slavery. But all

1184
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,360
working people of every races should be immediately enslaved as well,

1185
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,880
to help them, to give them purpose, to keep them

1186
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,800
safe from themselves. His second book comes out in eighteen

1187
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:56,519
fifty seven. It's called Cannibals All or Slaves without Masters.

1188
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:04,440
In that book he actually agrees with Thomas Jefferson. Every

1189
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:09,480
person is born with inalienable rights.

1190
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: What are his rights?

1191
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: He writes, fits he rights. The order and subordination observable

1192
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,480
in the physical animal and human world show that some

1193
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:25,079
are formed for higher others for lower stations. The few

1194
01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:30,119
to command the many to obey. We conclude that about

1195
01:00:30,239 --> 01:00:35,079
nineteen out of every twenty individuals have a quote natural

1196
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,559
and inalienable right to be taken care of and protected,

1197
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:45,320
to have guardians, trustees, husbands, or masters. In other words,

1198
01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:50,639
they have a natural and inalienable right to be slaves.

1199
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:52,559
Speaker 2: That's not a right.

1200
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,559
Speaker 1: They have a right to be protected and all that

1201
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:03,280
other stuff. And he thinks, in his version of slavery,

1202
01:01:03,519 --> 01:01:07,840
you work, and you have your purpose set forward for you,

1203
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,719
and everything else is taken care of.

1204
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: Sweetie.

1205
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,079
Speaker 1: You're gonna have your food, your house, you can get

1206
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:15,920
married and have kids and stuff because we're needing more slaves.

1207
01:01:16,159 --> 01:01:18,559
But everything be taken.

1208
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,079
Speaker 2: Care of for you.

1209
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: You have a right to not have to worry.

1210
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's the dystopian future that's always portrayed in movies. Yeah,

1211
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,320
like ahead of his time. So I guess every science

1212
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,159
fiction writer kind of rip this. Dude, Oh a debt

1213
01:01:33,199 --> 01:01:37,480
to fits you? Yeah, yeah, because oh oh no, don't

1214
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,639
worry about this, just go to your job, pedal the bike.

1215
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:43,559
Speaker 1: I mean again, I have to ask you, would this

1216
01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:46,000
guy's twitter or not have crushed No, dude, I don't

1217
01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:48,480
think so. I think it would have. I think a

1218
01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:51,440
lot of people because again you go back to this

1219
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,400
is that nobody thinks they're going to be the slave right.

1220
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:57,719
Speaker 2: I guess it's horseshoe theory too. So like the radical

1221
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,519
left and the radical right would be kind of about dude.

1222
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll talk about the radical left and and

1223
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,480
what he thought of them, and he and and how

1224
01:02:06,519 --> 01:02:08,280
he kind of agreed with them.

1225
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,719
Speaker 2: Because this isn't that the whole thing with immigration now

1226
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,239
that the left is like, oh, well, they're just not

1227
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,760
They're taking the jobs that nobody wants. You want to

1228
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,960
go pick the tomatoes. It's like, all right, so you're

1229
01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:21,760
essentially calling the fucking Mexicans slaves.

1230
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was offensive to call them fruit

1231
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:31,679
pickers or something like that. Yeah, it's like you want that, Like, yeah,

1232
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,480
Farther people like, well, I mean they are that just

1233
01:02:33,519 --> 01:02:38,320
mean to call that. I love it so much.

1234
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:44,119
Speaker 2: I guess it's imported labor. It's cheap labor. That is

1235
01:02:44,159 --> 01:02:46,639
the reason immigration is happening. It has nothing to do

1236
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:49,039
with human rights, has everything to do with the economy.

1237
01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: Always it's always money, baby, this country's business.

1238
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:57,079
Speaker 2: And we ain't. We ain't producing enough kids. Well, speak

1239
01:02:57,119 --> 01:03:01,000
for yourself. I know it's my fault. Uh.

1240
01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: He also mentions Fitzhu also elaborates on the rights of

1241
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:06,519
the rulers of the one out of every twenty who

1242
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:09,480
are fit to rule. The one in twenty are as

1243
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,000
clearly born or educated, or some way fitted for command

1244
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,239
and liberty. Not to make them rulers or masters is

1245
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,039
as great a violation of natural right as not to

1246
01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:23,039
make as not to make slaves of the masses, a

1247
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:27,960
very little individuality is useful and necessary to society for

1248
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,440
the rulers, much of it begets discord, chaos, and anarchy.

1249
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,679
Speaker 2: So he is more or less saying there's way too

1250
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,960
much individuality in society. Yeah, I agree with that.

1251
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,679
Speaker 1: Can't say I feel like I feel like we overshot

1252
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,280
the runway on individuality.

1253
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:45,719
Speaker 2: We did.

1254
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: Everyone has worth, but like, yeah, not everyone's gonna hit

1255
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,119
the home running Game seven of the World Series.

1256
01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: You know, we need ditch diggers, We need people that

1257
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,840
you know, just take the shit that has fed to them.

1258
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: Actually, I'll give you, I'll give you a good example

1259
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:04,760
of this that I think actually.

1260
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: Not for their whole life, but like, yeah, you know,

1261
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:07,719
parts of their day.

1262
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:13,079
Speaker 1: There there was I think the best example of a

1263
01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:20,679
a moment of collectivism producing maybe the greatest series of

1264
01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:26,000
individual accomplishments in American maybe human history is World War Two. Right,

1265
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,360
everyone joined the army or the military, I should say,

1266
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,320
and it made more heroes out of a generation than

1267
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,800
has ever happened before or since. Like, but it was

1268
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:40,480
collectivism that started that, right, It was not individuality. Even

1269
01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:44,719
though there's things to be said about American individualism, making

1270
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,239
the American soldier kind of like a force to be

1271
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,480
reckoned with it's it was still like an act of

1272
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,840
collectivism in that and the sort of like shared sense

1273
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,400
of purpose of not being overly I mean, they're you're

1274
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,440
gonna read about that constantly. With the Olympic team just

1275
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,920
winning the gold, right, everyone had a had to like

1276
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:02,840
dial down there, or even.

1277
01:05:02,719 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: For World War two? Right, what's more powerful? Three or one? Yeah?

1278
01:05:10,159 --> 01:05:15,320
One common cause? Yeah, to beat Germany, Italy and the

1279
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:15,920
g Apps.

1280
01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna drop that.

1281
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: Jane a word Japanese?

1282
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I think that's an

1283
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,159
interesting argument. I do think we've overshot the run with individuality.

1284
01:05:28,239 --> 01:05:30,800
I think people need to Actually it's not like you

1285
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,320
don't need to be an individual, but I would say

1286
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,159
that like people are too concerned with individuality, do you

1287
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:38,360
know what I mean? Just just exist, just exist.

1288
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,239
Speaker 2: A lot of people do just exist, though, I think

1289
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,239
most of the saddest part.

1290
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,119
Speaker 1: I think most people do just exist.

1291
01:05:44,599 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 2: And they try to find some meaning or purpose individuality

1292
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,079
that is always escaping them, and I think it leaves

1293
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:58,679
them more depressed because they feel like they have to

1294
01:05:58,719 --> 01:06:00,519
have it. Everyone else is like looking for it. You

1295
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:03,239
have to have like a thing. Yeah, something has to

1296
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,719
make me unique, something has to make me special. But

1297
01:06:05,719 --> 01:06:09,360
at the end of the day, much like myself, nothing does. Man,

1298
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,920
and you have to accept it. And it's it's fine.

1299
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,880
It's it's cool over here. Man, get in the water.

1300
01:06:14,599 --> 01:06:18,800
It's it's nice in here. We'll paddle out, we'll catch

1301
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,599
a couple of waves here and there. But we're not

1302
01:06:22,199 --> 01:06:26,039
we're not destined for greatness. It's okay. We're gonna be

1303
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:29,800
long forgotten in history. No one's ever gonna listen to

1304
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:30,239
the show.

1305
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,119
Speaker 1: I mean, even even the people you think are gonna

1306
01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:37,000
be remembered are immediately forgotten.

1307
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:40,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like that's what this show is about, really,

1308
01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:42,679
first off, forgotten people throughout history.

1309
01:06:42,719 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I mean, like you look at like a president,

1310
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,960
right and you're like, oh, that's a president. That's a

1311
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,800
great person. Name all the presidents. You fucking can't.

1312
01:06:53,239 --> 01:06:56,159
Speaker 2: Name one thing McKinley did besides get died.

1313
01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, or even like you see like a TV show,

1314
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:01,760
you see an actor on TV show and you're like,

1315
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,199
that's a great person. That person did something memorable.

1316
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,679
Speaker 2: Kids. Now I can turn on a TV show from

1317
01:07:07,679 --> 01:07:10,559
the age, show them Humphrey Bogart and they'll have no

1318
01:07:10,599 --> 01:07:14,360
idea who he is, no fucking clue. Yeah, so, Dogu,

1319
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,360
I don't even really know who Humphrey Bogart is. And

1320
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,639
I went to film school and I saw a lot

1321
01:07:19,639 --> 01:07:22,159
of his films, and he was really the same actor

1322
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:22,800
and everything for.

1323
01:07:23,199 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: Every Napoleon or I'm honest, honestly, this is what's even crazier.

1324
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:36,000
Go ask Americans, Americans, who was the commanding general in

1325
01:07:36,039 --> 01:07:36,719
World War Two?

1326
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: Eisenhower of course, Yeah, but how many the most important war.

1327
01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: In human history that America was the spearhead for.

1328
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: I think they might get lucky though, because he was president.

1329
01:07:49,199 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: Dude, I don't even know how many people fucking just

1330
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,440
know who he is. Dwight Eisenhower is one.

1331
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:54,719
Speaker 2: Of the ike.

1332
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's just the yeah, it does. The immortality

1333
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:04,039
is impossible in both name and like, yeah, great, there's

1334
01:08:04,039 --> 01:08:06,159
a Caesar, there's a Napoleon, there's an Aleexander that great.

1335
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:08,639
For every one of that, there's people who did even

1336
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:09,679
similar stuff.

1337
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: Dude, I it's grim, but I don't think thirty percent

1338
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,399
of the population would know who Alexander the Great is

1339
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:24,439
a minimum or minimum even Caesar, see I more uh

1340
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:25,640
more would know because.

1341
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: It's more Polish on Caesar.

1342
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, the dressing.

1343
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, so I fits you. Ultimately, he just

1344
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,439
really cares about the little guy when you think about it.

1345
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,880
He says, it's the duty of society to protect the weak,

1346
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:42,640
but protection cannot be efficient without the power of control. Therefore,

1347
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:47,760
it is the duty of society to enslave the week.

1348
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I did just looking out for the

1349
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,640
little guy. Yeah, it's in your best interest, It's okay. Yeah,

1350
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,000
we don't want you to hurt yourself. Mommy and Daddy's

1351
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:58,800
got it.

1352
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: Daddy's got it. Mommy's got it. Let believe it or not.

1353
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:05,560
There were some logical holes in his arguments. Really yeah,

1354
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,560
as proof that serfs are happier than free workers, he wrote, I.

1355
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,399
Speaker 2: Don't think so, though, because you're dying as you're trying

1356
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:12,239
to tell us right now. Yeah, yeah, so I think

1357
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:15,720
this is him from the grave hand out poking holes

1358
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,399
into your fucking.

1359
01:09:17,159 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: Throat, he writes. During the decline of the Roman Empire,

1360
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:26,800
slavery became colonial or pradial, which means tied to the land.

1361
01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:30,359
The slaves occupied the place of tenants or serfs, were

1362
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,800
at scripty solely and could only be sold with the farm.

1363
01:09:35,159 --> 01:09:38,600
The serfs of Russia, Poland, Turkey and Hungary are happier

1364
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,680
and better provided for than free labor than the free

1365
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,399
laborers of Western Europe. They are not overworked. They are

1366
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,439
not overworked and underfed as are the free laborers of

1367
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,279
Western Europe. Hence, they never rise in riots or insurrections,

1368
01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:58,640
burn houses, commit strikes, nor do they emigrate. So here's

1369
01:09:58,680 --> 01:09:59,880
my problem with that argument.

1370
01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:00,399
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1371
01:10:01,359 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 1: Nor do they emigrate. So they're slaves forced to live

1372
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,239
on the land basically by force. And your proof that

1373
01:10:12,279 --> 01:10:14,680
they like it is they can't escape.

1374
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:17,199
Speaker 2: They haven't left jail.

1375
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: They must love being in prison.

1376
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:23,520
Speaker 2: It's crazy, like they just can't get over these walls. Yes,

1377
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:24,520
the barbed wire.

1378
01:10:25,239 --> 01:10:27,039
Speaker 1: Not sure.

1379
01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm here.

1380
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure I agree with that love private prison. I

1381
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,199
will say he makes a better point about on this.

1382
01:10:33,319 --> 01:10:35,800
I don't On this one, I'm about to raid. I

1383
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:40,800
don't agree with it, but it's not the worst argument

1384
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,880
in my mind, So if it's you had some thoughts

1385
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,560
on the American Revolution as well. He wrote, we do

1386
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,079
not agree with the authors of the Declaration of Independence

1387
01:10:50,119 --> 01:10:53,640
that governments quote derive their just powers from the consent

1388
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,960
of the govern the women, the children, the negroes, and

1389
01:10:57,039 --> 01:11:01,199
but few of the non property holders, and but a

1390
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,119
few of the non property holders were consulted or consented

1391
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:07,479
to the revolution or the governments that ensued from its success.

1392
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,920
So he's saying, like consent of the governed, You didn't

1393
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:16,840
ask hardly anyone. They were like like thousands of people

1394
01:11:17,159 --> 01:11:18,760
that made the rules for millions.

1395
01:11:19,039 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean we talked about this at its peak,

1396
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:27,479
like forty percent of the US population actually supported the revolution. Yeah.

1397
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 1: And he goes on to write the very term government

1398
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implies that it is carried on against the consent of

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the governed, which I don't necessarily agree with that, but

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I do agree with like, obviously not everyone being governed

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consents to what they're being governed by. Often quite a

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few people don't listen.

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Speaker 2: I bet he's a no tax on tips guy. I

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think he's tax. Taxation is theft.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but.

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Speaker 2: You can't really tax so it's not getting paid, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So basically, in his mind, I guess the only real

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freedom is anarchy or you're full of shit.

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Speaker 2: Even if it is anarchy, there has to be an

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established set of expectations with it.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's always gonna be a social structure no matter

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what happens, right, Like it's you just you would just

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socially make rules about like, ah, don't fuck my dog,

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you know, like.

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Speaker 2: Hey, where everything's just free game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess in a true anarchist society you can

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fuck anyone's.

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Speaker 2: Dog, So no chasing God.

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Speaker 1: Though he hated capitalism, fits you, was not a socialist,

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he had a lot to say about them. Actually, my

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favorite though, is that he's he kind of is annoyed

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at socialist because he's like, I get what you're saying,

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but like you're too much of a of an activist

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about it. Like what you're suggesting true socialism, it's just

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what I'm suggesting with it's slavery with extra steps. So

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let's just do my thing.

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Speaker 2: Just listen to me, dude, Yeah, I got it, He writes,

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You're being too vocal and it's a whole ordeal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you're kind of like cucked about it, Like

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you're kind of like a bitch about it, like just

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you want you want slaves. I want slaves.

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Speaker 2: Let me lead you to the water.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but my slavery, I'm honest about it, He writes,

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socialism proposes to do away with free competition, to afford

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protection and support at all times to the laboring class.

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And by the way, he is against free competition. He

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thinks it demeans the workers, all that stuff rat race

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to the bottom type of situation. UH, to bring about

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at least a qualified community or property, and to associate labor.

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All these purposes slavery perfectly, all these purposes slavery fully

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and perfectly attains. So he's saying, like, dude, if you

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want socialism where there's like a few people in charge

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making decisions but everyone gets equal shit, do my thing,

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which is slavery slavery? Does it again? Socialism slavery.

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Speaker 2: That's just obsessed with this ship. I'm over it at

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this point, Like, let's let's get on, let's let's move

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on to this this guy's final thesis. Well, so give

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me crazier shit like cause you're kind of beating the

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same drum.

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Speaker 1: This is my favorite thing about Fitz. You his views

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on slavery published in these books and a ton of

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newspaper articles. They made one person in particular, incessant, incredibly angry.

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Speaker 2: Who was this one individual that was so a gast

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by these takes a ghast is a good way to

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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:33,479
put it. Furious at them. Abraham Lincoln, Oh, he was

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01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:38,880
a needle and Abe, hold honest, Abe fitz Hughes, How

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did he even get Abe's attention?

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Speaker 1: Fitz hughes first book, Sociology of the South, allegedly reinvigorated

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Lincoln's passion for politics after in the late after so

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he lost.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln was a congressman in the Whig Party, and he lost.

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Speaker 1: He lost after one term, and the Whig Party shortly

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thereafter dissolved, and.

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Speaker 2: He was like, I'm done with politics.

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Speaker 1: He was like, I don't know where to go. He

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wasn't done with politics, but he was like he was

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really disheartened. He was certain he was he was kind

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of done with it. And between he.

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Speaker 2: Was trying to find his purpose.

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Speaker 1: Between losing his congressional seat after one term, his political

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party literally disintegrating, ceasing to exist, and his son Edward

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dying at the age of three of tuberculosis, Lincoln was

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01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:30,199
lost at sea, like he was a drift, right he was.

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He was sad that he had no impact on society

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that he felt he could have a great impact on.

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01:15:36,359 --> 01:15:39,640
He had no idea what to do. He was uninspired

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01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,439
and didn't know where to turn, and he read the

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01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,760
words of this man. He read the Sociology of the South.

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Speaker 2: And that was the catalyst, essentially for you know, one

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of the greatest presidents of our country.

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Speaker 1: One of the greatest leaders of any country in human history.

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As far as I'm concerned, this book literally reinvigorated Lincoln

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because he hate read it and hated it so fucking much.

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Speaker 2: This man, he's like, I need to become president. This

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man brought Lincoln back from the dead. I need to

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stop slavery. Like he's like, Okay, I was pretty whatever

1487
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,239
on slavery, but this book maybe want to free the slaves.

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Speaker 1: Lincoln's law partner, William Henry Herndon said that it quote

1489
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aroused the ire of Lincoln more than most pro slavery books.

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Inspired by his reading of Fits You, Lincoln wrote, although

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01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,840
volume upon volume is written to prove slavery is a

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very good thing, we never hear of the man who

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01:16:34,119 --> 01:16:37,279
wishes to take the good of it by being a

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slave himself. This guy was so fucking crazy.

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01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:43,359
Speaker 2: George Fitzhugh was so fucking crazy. He's about that life.

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He was willing to be a slave.

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Speaker 1: That brought that he brought Lincoln back, but he himself

1498
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,560
said he would be as That's how Lincoln took it

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01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,640
that Lincoln was like, this guy would be a slave

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01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,239
himself if it made got him what he wanted.

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01:16:56,239 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: Well, we never think we're going to be the slave.

1502
01:16:58,319 --> 01:17:01,079
We're always the exception, right, no one ever thinks. Yeah,

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01:17:01,119 --> 01:17:05,319
but when he prod came back from the political grave,

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yeah him.

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01:17:07,399 --> 01:17:09,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same way, like everyone thinks, Oh, when

1506
01:17:09,159 --> 01:17:11,239
society collapses, Like I own a gun, so I'll be

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01:17:11,239 --> 01:17:12,199
a warlord?

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01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,319
Speaker 2: Will you you will will you? Will you? Yeah? Maybe

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01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,640
a lieutenant to what will you?

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01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: Will you? Eventually, of course, the Civil War happens, slavery's abolished,

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,239
and finally fits Hugh sees the light. Oh does he

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01:17:30,399 --> 01:17:34,640
that capitalism is good because it also enslaves people?

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01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,520
Speaker 2: Actually, and he became a New York Times bestseller.

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01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, specifically private landownership, in which rich people box

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,880
out poor people and have more control over the government

1516
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,039
and thus those poor people. So he's really into land monopoly,

1517
01:17:49,079 --> 01:17:51,479
like he likes it, like a small few who have

1518
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,000
a lot of money owned most of the land.

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01:17:53,079 --> 01:17:55,399
Speaker 2: So he's in the black rock. Yeah, Oh, he would

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01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:56,159
love black rock.

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01:17:56,279 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: He would be.

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01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 2: All about or like a gray star.

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01:17:59,039 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he likes that most people can't own can't own

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01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,079
property just out of financial means alone.

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01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the natural order of things worked it

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01:18:09,399 --> 01:18:12,279
out for what he was arguing all along.

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01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, the markets didn't what he needed.

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01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:19,159
Speaker 2: The markets were his friend along the way.

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01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:22,239
Speaker 1: He never knew, Yeah, he never knew. But he wrote

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01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:25,840
in eighteen sixty six seven something like that, Desiring the

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01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,119
luxuries of life, they say to the land about the landowners,

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01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:31,840
about why they're so just and great. He go like,

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01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:34,000
and good to them, he goes, But desiring the luxuries

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01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,520
of life, they say to the land, list will permit

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01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,279
you to live on our lands and cultivate them, provided

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01:18:39,319 --> 01:18:42,199
you furnish us not only with the necessities, food, whatever,

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01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,960
but also with whatever beautiful or ornamental architecture in dress, furniture,

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,239
or whatever else that we need. With all the luxuries

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01:18:50,279 --> 01:18:53,920
on the table. Essentially, he's saying that we're back to

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01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:57,319
Roman times, right. He's like, Oh, the slaves help us

1541
01:18:58,039 --> 01:19:01,239
create beautiful things, because as they free us, free up

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01:19:01,239 --> 01:19:06,880
our time to make beautiful shit. This guy just fucking

1543
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,479
loves slavery, so he kind of I think he kind

1544
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,359
of talks himself into he got what he wanted.

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01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 2: The slaves are our role players, yeah, the glue guys.

1546
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,560
So he kind of let me cook. They let me

1547
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:22,439
just kind of like get open shots. They're sending the picks, and.

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01:19:22,399 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: He kind of just talks himself into that everything's fine

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01:19:25,119 --> 01:19:26,800
and I got what I wanted. He kind of talked

1550
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,039
him off into he was right all along.

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01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 2: Again, as one does this, ever, admit defeat, always reshape

1552
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,239
your argument if it ever incurs some type of speed bump.

1553
01:19:37,399 --> 01:19:40,199
Speaker 1: I every every word I read about this man, I

1554
01:19:40,279 --> 01:19:43,079
was like, shit, this is just a he's a shit

1555
01:19:43,159 --> 01:19:44,399
don't change guy, through and through.

1556
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think earlier in the episode you said

1557
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:51,520
I would be much like him, which, go fuck yourself.

1558
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,359
Speaker 1: No, I said you would appreciate his spicy takes.

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01:19:54,520 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: I don't. I really don't fair enough. I'm willing to change. Okay,

1560
01:20:02,119 --> 01:20:05,880
I'm never on a block. That's my whole thing. I

1561
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:07,079
stand for nothing. I don't.

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01:20:07,119 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: I know you're not immovable, but I just think you know,

1563
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,439
I thought you might appreciate spice stakes anyway after the

1564
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,680
Civil War fits you actually put his money where his

1565
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,760
mouth is a little bit. He spent time judging for

1566
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,199
the Freedmen's Court, which was essentially a court that like

1567
01:20:23,279 --> 01:20:27,560
helped black people who were slaves like get a life,

1568
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,239
you know what I mean? And I think I think

1569
01:20:30,279 --> 01:20:33,199
he did that because he was like, dude, what are

1570
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:34,720
they going to do when they're free? They don't know

1571
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,199
how to be free. Not that he's not kind of

1572
01:20:37,359 --> 01:20:39,079
a piece of shit, but it was interesting that he

1573
01:20:39,079 --> 01:20:41,680
actually like kind of put up a little bit. His

1574
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,399
wife died in eighteen seventy seven and he moved to Kentucky.

1575
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,439
He later moved to Huntsville, Texas, where his daughter lived.

1576
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,239
He died in eighteen eighty one, and he's buried in Huntsville.

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01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: Texas to this day. I should go visit his grave.

1578
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,520
Maybe would you learn it all over it?

1579
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? What'd you learn today?

1580
01:20:59,119 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: We're always laying everything is slavery, If everything is slavery, if.

1581
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: You want it to be, I guess, which is what

1582
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,720
most people are like now right, Like you'll be like slavery.

1583
01:21:07,319 --> 01:21:09,560
It's just I'm telling you this guy is just like

1584
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,479
I feel like I'm reading somebody's Twitter account. Who's today's hitler.

1585
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:19,000
It's probably this good Georgey, probably piece ship for sure.

1586
01:21:19,039 --> 01:21:20,119
Probably not a great husband.

1587
01:21:21,119 --> 01:21:23,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet she cheated on him.

1588
01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:25,119
Speaker 1: She died as simphilist one would hope.

1589
01:21:26,319 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 2: Out there.

1590
01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:32,279
Speaker 1: Fair enough. But yeah, that is all I've got for today.

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Thank you so much for listening. Please leave a review

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01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,560
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Patreon dot com, slash softcore history.

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01:21:49,119 --> 01:21:51,920
YouTube and pretty faces. We get a wide today, so

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Speaker 1: Lord thick fi those thick things.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the fucking foot guy back.

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01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,239
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you're an audio you know, audio person, YouTube for the dog, audio.

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Speaker 2: For you, just both. Yeah, really, just listen to our

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episodes over and over again, over and over. Let us

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01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,640
be your takes.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got for today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just got saft served