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<v Speaker 1>Which Italian island is getting its moment in the sun

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Hint, it starts with s and has a

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<v Speaker 1>unique culture that goes back many thousands of years to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bronze Age. Today, let's take a trip to beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Sardinia and explore its coast, countryside, mountains and unique culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Sawatuti and Benvenuti Tuan told Italy the Travel podcast to

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<v Speaker 2>where you go to the towns and villages, mountains and lakes,

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<v Speaker 2>hills and coastlines of Bela, Italia. Each week, your host

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<v Speaker 2>Katie Clark takes you on a journey in a search

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<v Speaker 2>of magical landscapes, history, culture, wine, gelato, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of pasta. If you're dreaming of Italy

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<v Speaker 2>and planning future adventures there, you've come to the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>Bonjo no friends, are you ready for a little island adventure?

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<v Speaker 1>Sardinia is fast becoming one of Italy's go to destinations

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<v Speaker 1>for English speaking travelers thanks to its stunning beaches and

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<v Speaker 1>countryside coastal towns, ancient history, and slower pace of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Europeans have been going there for centuries, mainly

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<v Speaker 1>to the beach resorts. It has to be said but

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<v Speaker 1>the island has some of the ritziest resorts in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also known for ancient traditions dating back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bronze Age, a history dominated by Spanish occupation, and

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<v Speaker 1>a proud local identity and cultural traditions. This is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>fertile ground for us here at Untold Italy, and we

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<v Speaker 1>recently launched our first small group tour of the island,

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<v Speaker 1>departing in September twenty twenty seven. On this episode, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>joined by my friend and local Sardinian Angela Carrias, who

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<v Speaker 1>helped us design the tour so it includes all those

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<v Speaker 1>Untold Italy touches, beautiful family run accommodation and the very

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<v Speaker 1>best local seasonal dishes and wine, and even a visit

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<v Speaker 1>to a local festival so you truly feel part of Sardinia.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, you'll find the details on Untold Italy tours

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and in the episode show notes andiamo, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to Sardinia. Then for new to Angela, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Untold Italy podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you are so welcome. I'm so happy to have

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<v Speaker 1>you here on the podcast. Angela. After bumping into you

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<v Speaker 1>a few times in Italy over the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a lot of fun, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, very much, and we got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Know each other a bit over a few coffees, some

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<v Speaker 1>snacks and a wander through the Vatican museums. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was hoping you could introduce yourself to our listeners and

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<v Speaker 1>tell them where you are from and what you do

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<v Speaker 1>before we get chatting about beautiful Sardinia.

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<v Speaker 4>I live in Rome, but I actually am from Sardinia.

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<v Speaker 4>I was born in in Karlia, in the capital of Sardinia,

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<v Speaker 4>which is in the south, but I grew up in

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<v Speaker 4>the center of the island in Sardinia, in a very

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<v Speaker 4>small village called Gillarza, which I always recommend also to visit.

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<v Speaker 4>I have lived in Sardinia until I was nineteen because

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eene years old, I moved to Rome to study

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<v Speaker 4>in university and I graduated in Rome in journalist and

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<v Speaker 4>after that I took off and I traveled around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I traveled around.

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<v Speaker 4>South America, Asia, Europe for about ten years, and then

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<v Speaker 4>when I moved back to Italy, I settled in Rome

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<v Speaker 4>and now I live in Rome. I am based in Rome,

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<v Speaker 4>but I traveled to Sardinia every year. This year, I

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<v Speaker 4>actually I already booked the tickets because I'm going in

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<v Speaker 4>June and that's when the high season starts, because it's

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<v Speaker 4>the Italian summer and that's when the high season starts.

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<v Speaker 4>And I I'm planning to spend a couple of months

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<v Speaker 4>in in Sardinia this year, and she lucky. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>think so, even though the beaches will be like super

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<v Speaker 4>super crowded, so I think I need to do some

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<v Speaker 4>different planning.

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<v Speaker 3>I will certainly I will.

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<v Speaker 4>Go to the beach also because it will be very hot,

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<v Speaker 4>but I will be also some planning because every time

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<v Speaker 4>I go to Sardinia, even though I am from Sardinia,

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<v Speaker 4>I like to explore areas I still don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Angela, you are the absolute explorer, having been

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<v Speaker 1>all around the world, and I mean, if you ever

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<v Speaker 1>get chances, sit down with Angela and explore. She's got

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<v Speaker 1>several websites, actually, but she's got one blog. She has

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<v Speaker 1>been to the far flong places of the earth and

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<v Speaker 1>it's got many, many titles to tell. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>delight to actually have you share all about your home

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<v Speaker 1>in Sardinia. And I can't wait to hear more about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But for those of us that, oh no, I obviously

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<v Speaker 1>know quite a little bit about Sardinia, although I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been there, I have to confess, but some people may

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<v Speaker 1>not know where it is. So can you let everyone

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<v Speaker 1>know where it is and maybe some geography about Sardinia?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Sardinia is an island.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not connected to the mainland Italy by any bridge,

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<v Speaker 4>so the only way to reach Sardina is by faerry

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<v Speaker 4>or by plane. It's located off the Rome coast. It's

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<v Speaker 4>on the western side of Rome and the north of Sicily.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the second biggest island in Italy, and so you're

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<v Speaker 4>reached by plane or by fairey and the plane from

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<v Speaker 4>many European cities and many Italian cities. There are also

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<v Speaker 4>loc cost airlines landing in Sardina, like European localst airlines

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<v Speaker 4>like Wheit Air, easy Jet, Ryanair or by faerry. You

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<v Speaker 4>can reach Sardina by ferry from Rome, Chibitavecia or from

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<v Speaker 4>other ports like Genoa, Palermo, or also from other European

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<v Speaker 4>ports like Barcelona Nice I think also Marseille in France.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you recommend going on the ferry or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's better to fly.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we always go by ferry from Rome because we

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<v Speaker 4>go by car. We have a small child, a four

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<v Speaker 4>year old, so we always go by ferry. Before my son,

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<v Speaker 4>I used to go by plane because by plane from

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<v Speaker 4>Roam it's a forty five minutes by fairy. If we

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<v Speaker 4>go from Chivitaveekia to Caliery, it's thirteen hours. In the

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<v Speaker 4>callier in the south thirteen hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Very Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If we go from Chivitaveeka to Albia it's eight hours.

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<v Speaker 3>We usually go.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we go to Portatores, which is also in North Sardinia,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's eight hours. Also eight nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Hours, so it's a good trip.

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<v Speaker 4>Many people, especially from Europe, they come with the camper van,

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<v Speaker 4>so they have to go by ferry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think obviously your choices are going to be determined

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<v Speaker 1>by how much time you have where you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go and see, because it is, as you mentioned, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big island, and I think people maybe think that

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<v Speaker 1>some of these islands are quite small, maybe like Capri

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, you know, some of the other Mediterranean islands,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's actually really big and you need quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time to explore it.

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<v Speaker 3>Properly right, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>If your only staying like a week, I suggest that

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<v Speaker 4>you pick an area like, for example, you visit northern

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<v Speaker 4>Sardinia and you explore and you visit the places in

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<v Speaker 4>many places to visit in northern Sardinia. If you want

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<v Speaker 4>to stay like two weeks or a month, then you

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<v Speaker 4>have more time and then you can travel across the island. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>you can visit more places, but in the north and

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<v Speaker 4>the south east west. Because it's very interesting. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you should spend some time in where you decide to visit,

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<v Speaker 4>not like stay there, you go one hour and then

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<v Speaker 4>you take off. No, take your time to visit the

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<v Speaker 4>place because it's very interesting. It also depends in not

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<v Speaker 4>just how long you stay, but for example, you need

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<v Speaker 4>to concede the flight. Obviously the flight is shorter, but

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<v Speaker 4>the ferry often it's in the night. You can spend

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<v Speaker 4>full night. So in the night, what do you do

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<v Speaker 4>You need to sleep anyway, So just take the ferry,

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<v Speaker 4>you sleep, you save on the hotel, and then the

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<v Speaker 4>morning you wake up and you are in Sardinia.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that sounds pretty magical. Yeah, angel you, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that you would definitely recommend a slow travel approach,

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<v Speaker 1>Would I be right.

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest, Yes, In Sardinia, I recommend the slow

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<v Speaker 4>traveling because this is the best way to actually enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>the island.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And what are some of the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>love about Sardinia? Why should people go?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if I have to give you some reasons to

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<v Speaker 4>be the Sardina, and there are many reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, the landscape. The landscape in Sardina.

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<v Speaker 4>Sardina is famous for its costs, the coastline, obviously, because

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<v Speaker 4>the beaches in Sardinia are beautiful, But Sardinia has an

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<v Speaker 4>extremely diverse landscape and we have the mountains, we have,

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<v Speaker 4>the desert, we have. The beaches are different from each other.

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<v Speaker 4>If you go to the east coast, it's completely different

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<v Speaker 4>from the west coast.

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<v Speaker 3>Some enjoy the landscape.

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<v Speaker 4>If you come in the summer, I am sure you

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<v Speaker 4>are going to go to the coast because it's very hot.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you come, like let's say, in spring, I

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<v Speaker 4>completely suggest to visit the inland, for example, the mountains,

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<v Speaker 4>the small towns. Each town they have a different landscape

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<v Speaker 4>and they are different, different customs, different traditions. That's also

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<v Speaker 4>another reason why I suggest visiting Sardinia because of all

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<v Speaker 4>the traditions each town. It's on language, it's on dialect,

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<v Speaker 4>it's on traditional costumes, it's on food.

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<v Speaker 3>Food.

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<v Speaker 4>It is another big, huge reason to visit Sardinia. We

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<v Speaker 4>have different many many, many different types of bread, many

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<v Speaker 4>different types of pasta. We have obviously different dishes. Where

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<v Speaker 4>I come from, where I usually go close to my

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<v Speaker 4>to the beach, I usually go. There is Cabras, a

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<v Speaker 4>town there. It's very famous for it the seafood. If

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<v Speaker 4>you want to eat seafood in Sardinia, I totally suggest

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<v Speaker 4>Cabras because we have the mulet raw. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if you heard. It's called botarga, and it's especially from Cabras.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's used in many dishes in Cabras because you

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<v Speaker 4>can grate it and season the pasta, or you can

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<v Speaker 4>have like a very fine slices and you can eat

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<v Speaker 4>it on a brosquetta. Let's say a toasted piece of

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<v Speaker 4>bread is salty. It's salty. Yeah, it's slightly salty and fat.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's nice with some olive oil or some butter

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<v Speaker 4>for the contrast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very it's very nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Or you go to a ghetto they have lobster. They

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<v Speaker 4>make lobsters in a very okay. They are influenced by

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<v Speaker 4>the Catalan culture because alghetto, in a ghetto, they speak Catalan.

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<v Speaker 4>And also the lobster they make, they make it in

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<v Speaker 4>a Catalan sort of like cattle influencer reciping.

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<v Speaker 1>So why is influenced by obviously Spanish Catalan traditions. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the history behind that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because they were Sardina was invaded by everyone from invaded

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<v Speaker 4>We have really we had like old relationships relations with

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<v Speaker 4>with the Punic, with the Romance, also the Romance Cape Sardinia.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, we have Roman baths, Roman also cities, ancient

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<v Speaker 4>Punic city, Punic and Roman cities. We have like in

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<v Speaker 4>more south central and south we have Spanish and oragonists

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<v Speaker 4>from Aragon, which was also Spanish population, which is different

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<v Speaker 4>from the Catalan because in the north we have Catalan.

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<v Speaker 4>In the south we have influence from genera like in

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<v Speaker 4>the food and the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's amazing, It's like a little melting pot.

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<v Speaker 4>There also Arabs, we had also an Arab Arabs invasion,

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<v Speaker 1>Do Sardinians consider themselves to be Italian? Were they more Sardinian?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's amazing, Like I just, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess you're seeing that in a really concentrate

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<v Speaker 3>As you were saying, yes, Sardinia, it's the culture.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very rich, like each town is different, but also

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<v Speaker 3>It's are very different. Different. Our culture and our language

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<v Speaker 4>If I speak Sardinia here in Rome, nobody understands anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you sometimes forget oops speaking speaking Sardinia and in Rome,

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I some some words, yes, they come out, some

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<v Speaker 4>words in Sardinia and nobody understands. For example, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I give just just a word. In Sardinia window we

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<v Speaker 4>say banana, which is close to Spanish, because in Spanish

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a banana banana.

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<v Speaker 3>In Italian it's finestro. It's completely different.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, So if I say bandana in here in Rome,

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<v Speaker 3>They don't understand it. I'm saying finestro window.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, and I was getting confused with the French

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<v Speaker 3>French is finalto yes, more similar to Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just great. A love this. And in Australia, we

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<v Speaker 1>just have one word. It's called window. So Angela, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me with the beaches. I know Sergini is very very

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<v Speaker 1>famous for its Are they sandy beaches or are they

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<v Speaker 1>storny or are there some on either side that are mixed?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what are the beaches like?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, in Sardinia we have sandy beaches, we have a rocky,

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<v Speaker 4>very rocky beaches. And then we have also in my

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<v Speaker 4>area the beaches where I usually go it's Sunday completely Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Other beaches that I have very close they are very sandy,

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<v Speaker 4>like very very fine sound one. It's some very good

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<v Speaker 4>for families because the water it's not deep and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very very fine white sand. It's very beautiful. But

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<v Speaker 3>then also close to.

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<v Speaker 4>Me we have another beach another like it's a peninsula.

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<v Speaker 4>It's or the sea's peninsula. A few beaches in there

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<v Speaker 4>they have quarts, so it's like the sand it's like rice.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's very beautiful. There's also some pink sand beach

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<v Speaker 1>there too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, in the north and one of the La Madelena.

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<v Speaker 4>There are another archipelago, La Mandellena. They have pink quarts

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<v Speaker 4>also that quarts and it's pink.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so beautiful. If seriously everyone look, go and google that,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can go to Angela's website. I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>She's got some beautiful photos of those beaches. But Sardinia

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe is known for having some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>beaches in Europe, and for some reason, it has that

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<v Speaker 1>secret has not yet escaped Europe yet and got to

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<v Speaker 1>the broader English speaking population. But like they're literally compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the Maldives or you know, places like that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>they're really I have not seen them yet, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are supposed to be that beautiful. Have you seen the

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<v Speaker 1>beaches in the Maldives? Can you compare?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 4>I only saw pictures and many also, many people also

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<v Speaker 4>from Sardina that they have been also to the Caribbean

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<v Speaker 4>and they compare the for example, Lapeloza in Stintino near Algero,

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<v Speaker 4>not far from Algero in the north of Sardinia, they

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<v Speaker 4>compared to the Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 3>I have been to the Caribbean. I've been to Lapelozza

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<v Speaker 3>and it's really really nice.

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<v Speaker 4>The water you can see from Afar, you can see

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<v Speaker 4>the water change in chr It's emerald and then blue

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<v Speaker 4>and then very light blue and then greenish.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds amazing. When we talked about Sicily on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast before. It's quite interesting because I identify myself

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<v Speaker 1>as an island person because I love islands and I

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<v Speaker 1>come from the biggest one in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. The thing is, I really feel at home

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<v Speaker 1>close to the sea. So when you're describing that water,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, oh, gosh, I really I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>be close to that water. Are the many villages on

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<v Speaker 1>the coast where people can stay and enjoy both the

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<v Speaker 1>village life and the beaches.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, there are actually like villages on the coast and

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<v Speaker 4>then smaller villages not too far from the coast. For example,

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<v Speaker 4>where I stay, it's a very tiny village, very small,

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<v Speaker 4>and people live there all year, but there are very

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<v Speaker 4>few families. But in Sardinia you are never more than

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<v Speaker 4>one hour far from the beach. Wherever you are in

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<v Speaker 4>the maximum time is one hour you.

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<v Speaker 3>Reach the coast. It's not a huge island.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's you know, it's a decent size that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to spend some time. So is it like a

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of free beaches there or are there a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of beach clubs and leaders there as well.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a mix, but there are many free beaches. Everywhere

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<v Speaker 4>I go it's free. For example, there are some beach

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<v Speaker 4>some beaches that there are close the meaning like there

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<v Speaker 4>is a limit for the number of people that they

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<v Speaker 4>can enter each day and you need to book. For example,

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<v Speaker 4>the one that I mentioned, La Pelosa. Now they started

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<v Speaker 4>for like it's already it's already been a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>quite a few years. They start in June, from June

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<v Speaker 4>to September, when it's the high season. They have a

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<v Speaker 4>limit in the number. For example, I think it's one

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<v Speaker 4>five hundred each day, and you book you book online

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<v Speaker 4>from the day before high season, I suggest a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of days before, and when you arrive, you show your booking,

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<v Speaker 4>they have your name, they give you a bracelet, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you have the whole day or once the number

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<v Speaker 4>is reached, no you can enter. And other beaches they

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<v Speaker 4>have like they are priv private clubs for hotels.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean, like quite rightly. Sartinians are very

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<v Speaker 1>protective of their beaches, and I think it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way now, spontaneity is probably like not

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<v Speaker 1>if you're traveling in high season, it's very advisable to

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<v Speaker 1>really search out what you need to know about. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if any want to visit certain beaches, you're probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to need to get a bit organized. Another thing I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to let people know is that in Sardinia it's

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<v Speaker 1>illegal to take the sand from the beaches, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, of course it's illegal because it's really not sustainable.

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<v Speaker 4>And the beach is beautiful because of the sun. So

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<v Speaker 4>I know, the sun is beautiful, but too many tourists

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<v Speaker 4>and take it away. Every year, they stop many tourists

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<v Speaker 4>in the airport or in the port because they find

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<v Speaker 4>them with full full of sund bugs or big bottles

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<v Speaker 4>full of sund and obviously they take them, they find them,

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<v Speaker 4>but sometimes if they don't find them, if they don't

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<v Speaker 4>catch them, then they take away bags full of sun

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<v Speaker 4>away from Sardinia, and you know, year after year, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>their room the beach, and then nobody can enjoy it anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>not even tourists.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, we just all need to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more mindful of things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot more people traveling these days,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously these people aren't going on Ryan Air because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way you'd have the luggage allowance to take

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<v Speaker 1>a big bag of sand on Ryan Air but it's

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<v Speaker 1>too heavy. But yeah, everyone needs to just think about

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing and tread a little lightly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a nature In the end, it sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to me it's Sardinia is a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>natural than some of the other beachy places. Initially, am

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<v Speaker 1>I right?

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<v Speaker 3>Or you can say wild?

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<v Speaker 4>While yes, true, Sardinia is much much wilder if you

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<v Speaker 4>see it also from the airplane when you're when you're landing,

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<v Speaker 4>you see completely different landscapes from Sardinia. Sardinia and Sicily

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<v Speaker 4>they are completely different. Sicily is much more well looked after,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, like the agriculture and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Sardinia is wild. You see more green, you know, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Many agriaturismas on the island.

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<v Speaker 3>They are.

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<v Speaker 4>Starting look already, it started like it's been already a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, there are many. Unfortunately, I think they should

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<v Speaker 4>Little bit better on the marketing because sometimes even I

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<v Speaker 4>end up in some agree tourisma that I didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>just because I.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw I see like some signs pointing, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we decide, okay, let's go there, but not because I

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<v Speaker 4>had heard before. But sometimes they're very nice. For example,

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<v Speaker 4>once we went to Touraga, which is an archaeological site,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have many uragu in Sardinia, and we visited one,

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<v Speaker 4>We ended up in a small agree toisma which was

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<v Speaker 4>but I know it's very famous. One close to do Galli.

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<v Speaker 4>Dor Galli is in the Dastra area, close to I

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<v Speaker 3>We have a cane and close to dorgal gos Or.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very nice and there is a very beautiful agriturisma

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<v Speaker 1>I just see it sounds like the type of place

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<v Speaker 1>that would really an agriturismo would be the perfect place

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<v Speaker 1>to stay, you know. I mean, I guess there's b

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<v Speaker 1>and bs and hotels, but for me, when the scenery

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit wild and rustic. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'd like to stay in an agriturismo And

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who haven't listened to Agriturismo episode,

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<v Speaker 1>really get to know the countryside and the people a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better when you stay in a place like that. Now, Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned archaeological sites, and there's something really incredible about

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<v Speaker 1>Sardinia that you won't find on the mainland, isn't there

422
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<v Speaker 1>that's historic and very very ancient.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we have a long history.

424
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<v Speaker 4>But while in Sicily, for example, you can go for

425
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<v Speaker 4>medieval history and this type of more modern history, Sardina

426
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<v Speaker 4>it's solid archaeology, very ancient relics and sites to visit,

427
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<v Speaker 4>the Nuragi. And then there is also the it's called

428
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<v Speaker 4>the ossiery culture, which is even before the Nuragai era.

429
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<v Speaker 4>And then we have the Punic. For example, you have Noura,

430
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<v Speaker 4>which is an ancient city a Crossocalieri. Then we have Taros,

431
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 4>which is also an ancient Punic city, and the west coast.

432
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<v Speaker 4>Then we have Roman baths, and then we have this nuragi,

433
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<v Speaker 4>which are Bronze age towers. Now in many you see

434
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<v Speaker 4>only the tower, but in many other areas you see

435
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<v Speaker 4>the whole village.

436
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<v Speaker 3>Has been very long excavations they.

437
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<v Speaker 4>Manage to to find all these villages and you can visit.

438
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<v Speaker 3>There are many in Barumini sou Nuraji. There are also.

439
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<v Speaker 4>Close in the in central central Sardinia. It's also very

440
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<v Speaker 4>interesting to visit because you can visit both the tower

441
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<v Speaker 4>and the village.

442
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<v Speaker 3>Then there are also always local guides.

443
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<v Speaker 4>Usually when you buy the ticket, there is also included

444
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<v Speaker 4>a local guide like the stuff of the place in

445
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:36.759
<v Speaker 4>every language. They have in English and Spanish and French,

446
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 4>obviously in Italian, and they explained the whole village connected

447
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<v Speaker 4>to the territory. Because even if they are urgi, all

448
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 4>over Sardinia they found I think, like some ten thousand,

449
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<v Speaker 4>even if they are similar, they are in different areas,

450
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<v Speaker 4>so they all have a different type of purpose function

451
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<v Speaker 4>and why they were there, why they built them there,

452
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<v Speaker 4>why they build them in the coast, there are some

453
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<v Speaker 4>that they were fine also in the coast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's incredible. Some of the oldest inhabited places in

455
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<v Speaker 1>Europe right, so people have been living in these spots

456
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<v Speaker 1>for thousands and thousands of years, and.

457
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<v Speaker 3>I visited a museum in Cabras.

458
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<v Speaker 4>Because we have also like apart from the nuragi, are

459
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<v Speaker 4>the very extremely interesting archeological sites. They are the it's

460
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<v Speaker 4>called in Italian, it's called tomba de gigante, which means

461
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<v Speaker 4>the giants toms. It's not because they were giants, they

462
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 4>were necropolis. They are like graveyards. Then we have the

463
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<v Speaker 4>Domus Dayanas.

464
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<v Speaker 3>It's collin Sardina, which.

465
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<v Speaker 4>Is the fairies houses like the houses of the fairies.

466
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<v Speaker 4>And also those they are tombs and they are more

467
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<v Speaker 4>they're older than the Nuragi.

468
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 3>They belonged to.

469
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<v Speaker 4>This culture of Osier culture, which is older than the

470
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<v Speaker 4>Murgi era. Then we have sacred wells, for example, in

471
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<v Speaker 4>across where I live, it's the very famous one. It's

472
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<v Speaker 4>called the Santa Christina Saint Christine Sacred well. Dar one

473
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<v Speaker 4>is from the Nuragic period. It's like it's a it's

474
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<v Speaker 4>a well like in the bottom you can see there

475
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<v Speaker 4>is still water.

476
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<v Speaker 3>But it was not for the water. It's like a temple.

477
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<v Speaker 3>It was for.

478
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<v Speaker 4>Religious purpose and it would been like thousands and thousands

479
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:42.599
<v Speaker 4>of years ago and there every eighteen years, the moon

480
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 4>goes like straight to the bottom.

481
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<v Speaker 3>It's like perfectly calculated.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Every eighteen years.

483
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and it's not only now we can't reproduce something

484
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<v Speaker 4>like this.

485
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<v Speaker 3>We are still trying to understand how they made it.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you seen it when it goes exactly in No?

487
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<v Speaker 4>No, And I think the sun there is calculation also

488
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<v Speaker 4>of the sun.

489
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<v Speaker 3>And they're well, it's very fascinating, amazing.

490
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<v Speaker 1>We think we're so clever. We're not that clever. These

491
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>people have been doing the same things for thousands of years.

492
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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we have electricity now, I mean, who knows what

493
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>they had. We don't know.

494
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<v Speaker 4>Do we also the reality for example, they are thousands

495
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<v Speaker 4>of years old.

496
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<v Speaker 3>But if you see they were not built like the stones.

497
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<v Speaker 3>They're huge stones. They were put on top of each other,

498
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 3>they were not glued and they are still stunding.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, So you've got I mean, this is an amazing

500
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<v Speaker 1>island with thousands of years of history, beautiful beaches and

501
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>also beautiful mountains too, right and hills.

502
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<v Speaker 3>Yes you have. The mountains are in the Numara province, well,

503
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<v Speaker 3>not Ja.

504
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 4>There is also Monte Archie, which is an actual Aristano

505
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 4>and probably they.

506
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Are the tallest mountains. But Yastra, let's.

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508
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510
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<v Speaker 4>And you can visit. You can go hiking. And in

512
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<v Speaker 4>Adastra there is the Sugar it's called it's very famous.

513
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 4>It's a canyon. It's like Kenya. You can go down

514
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<v Speaker 4>the Kenyon.

515
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 3>They do tours. Because I wouldn't go by myself. I went.

516
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 4>I visited once, but I went with a tour because

517
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<v Speaker 4>I think I would get lost. Maybe some people with

518
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<v Speaker 4>that they are more confident hiking, they can go. Also,

519
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 4>there are like there are actually roots and paths that

520
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 4>you can follow. I don't have any orientation sensors, so

521
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 4>I would I would get lost, So I go with someone.

522
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 4>But if someone is confident they can they can go

523
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<v Speaker 4>for themselves. There are the roots that they can follow.

524
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<v Speaker 1>I mean some of these experiences you just if you're

525
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<v Speaker 1>king to hiking or in any type of nature, it

526
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's a great place to visit. I think

527
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<v Speaker 1>just the contrast of all these different landscapes. The picture

528
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<v Speaker 1>you're painting angelarious that there's just so many different things

529
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<v Speaker 1>to do, and it's the culture on the mountain very

530
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<v Speaker 1>different to the culture on the plains and by the water.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, very different.

532
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<v Speaker 4>They are more you know, I think in Barbaja or yeah,

533
00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:01.680
<v Speaker 4>those areas they are more authentic Sardinians Ah, because they

534
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 4>were not invaded as much as we were in the coasts.

535
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.320
<v Speaker 1>People ran to the mountains to protect themselves and their

536
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>culture exactly.

537
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so. Yes, they have in they are famed.

538
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 4>For example Mamo YadA, which is in Barbadia also neural

539
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 4>province very close is the capital of the province.

540
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 3>They have a very ancient festival.

541
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 4>It's called the Mammotonas they wear wooden masks very ugly,

542
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 4>the uglier the better, and the dance around the fire

543
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 4>in for centenary in January. They start they were sheep

544
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 4>skin and then thirty kilos of bells, you know, the

545
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 4>bells of the sheep. They wear them so and the

546
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.599
<v Speaker 4>end the mask their wooden mask. Then now when they

547
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.760
<v Speaker 4>they wear them and they dance around the fire. They

548
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 4>have a specific dance, the rhythmical dance.

549
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 3>And you hear.

550
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Speaker 4>Obviously they make the noise with the bells for Cententially

551
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 4>they do it around the fire because in centenary in

552
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 4>some villages they lit up the bonfires in every square

553
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 4>of the village.

554
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 3>So they go and they dance around the fire.

555
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:29.280
<v Speaker 4>They come out also for carnival, but they don't do

556
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:33.480
<v Speaker 4>the fire for carnival. They just parade along the streets

557
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 4>with the other mask more modern masks.

558
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<v Speaker 1>I love that type of stuff. I just think it's

559
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>so interesting.

560
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<v Speaker 4>But that's yes, this is in winter also because okay,

561
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 4>the Mamotona's actually they come out also once in summer,

562
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 4>but they suffer a lot because of what they wear.

563
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 4>It's very warm, they sweat and summer it's too hot.

564
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 4>Even if they are in the mountain, it's less hot

565
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 4>than were ice stay, it's still very hot.

566
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Refer coming out in the winter.

567
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can imagine.

568
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.840
<v Speaker 4>It's obviously this is a pagan ritual. Yeah, from pagan

569
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<v Speaker 4>times before Christianity. Because also when they come, it's like

570
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.119
<v Speaker 4>to welcome the new the new harvest.

571
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 1>So interesting. But then Christianity to borrow a lot from

572
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 1>many things.

573
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Christianity, let's say nowday, when Christianity arrived, they let

574
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 4>them continue this ritual, but they say, you know, you

575
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 4>keep it for Carnival and then after that there is

576
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 4>like ash Wednesday and then Lent.

577
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:42.760
<v Speaker 3>And that's it. Yep, stop now exactly you have fun,

578
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 3>that's it.

579
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<v Speaker 1>Stop now. There is one thing I do know everywhere

580
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<v Speaker 1>in Italy is when you do have celebrations, there is

581
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>always food. So we talked about the lobster, which I'm

582
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<v Speaker 1>all about the lobster. We talked about the potaga and

583
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 1>the bread. Is there any other amazing special dishes everyone

584
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<v Speaker 1>should try when they go to Sardinia?

585
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Sardinia is famous for the pit roasted piglet the

586
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.599
<v Speaker 4>cycling pig, and that's it everywhere. But then every place

587
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 4>has its own dishes and also yes, depending on the season.

588
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:26.800
<v Speaker 3>For example, if you come for beginner of November.

589
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 4>We have we celebrate the day of the Dead. There

590
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:34.199
<v Speaker 4>is a particular cake Pavaccini, which is famous. You can

591
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 4>find it throughout the year, but it's traditional for that period.

592
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 4>If you come for Easter, you have a specific, very

593
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:44.920
<v Speaker 4>particular bread.

594
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.360
<v Speaker 3>In some places they do it with an egg, the

595
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 3>whole egg, not the.

596
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:53.079
<v Speaker 4>Egg in the recipe. The egg and then the bread

597
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 4>all around. We have a specific cake for Easter, Pardulas,

598
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 4>which is made with the ricotta.

599
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 3>It's delicious, very nice. For Carnival.

600
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 4>We have other cakes, different areas, different dishes. For example,

601
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 4>some particular dish in the Panada Panada is you can

602
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:21.639
<v Speaker 4>find it very nice in the north, Santa Terreza, which

603
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 4>is it's like a stew.

604
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 3>In the bread.

605
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:32.320
<v Speaker 4>Like let's say, the dish is the bread like the

606
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 4>actual plate. The plate is made of bread and inside

607
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 4>it's a stew. And you can find also meat based

608
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 4>or fish based. And you can find it in the

609
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:48.480
<v Speaker 4>north and also in a small village in Cooliery, which

610
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 4>is a small village in the central western Sardinia.

611
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 3>That's very nice. Panada, it's very nice. It's more a.

612
00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 4>Winter dish because it takes time to make. Can find

613
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.400
<v Speaker 4>it also in summer. I'm sure if they ask some

614
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:06.960
<v Speaker 4>restaurants or if they look, they can find them.

615
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Sardinian food is very well known throughout the

616
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<v Speaker 1>world for being very very very healthy, right, and a

617
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are studying this cuisine because there are

618
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people over one hundred in Sardinia.

619
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's in Barbadja, it's in the blue zone, oh

620
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:29.239
<v Speaker 4>yah yah Barbajia, even though that's the official blue zone

621
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.719
<v Speaker 4>in Sardinia. But also close to where we live, there

622
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:35.360
<v Speaker 4>are many one hundred year old people. Also my village

623
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<v Speaker 4>now now that I think of there is a a

624
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 4>gentleman there is one hundred, either getting close or he's

625
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 4>already turned one hundred. And then my dad's village there

626
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 4>was up a point where they were like a five

627
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:52.880
<v Speaker 4>more older.

628
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 3>Than one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, amazing, and they're healthy. I mean they're still getting

630
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>around now, they can walking and yeah, you know, having

631
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<v Speaker 1>good conversations. These are very active such Geneerian. So one

632
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<v Speaker 1>hundred year olds.

633
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, apart from conversations. Here there was.

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<v Speaker 4>A man he died the last year he was one hundred,

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<v Speaker 4>but when he was ninety years old, he was still

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<v Speaker 4>climbing the tree, not just having conversation, he was actually

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<v Speaker 4>climbing the trees. But because Sardinia, I think, well, I

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<v Speaker 4>live in Rome, but when I go to Sardinia, I

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<v Speaker 4>find the difference in the actual ingredients and not just

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<v Speaker 4>the dishes. The ingredients you can find still more genuine,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, genuine ingredients.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they import much from the mainland or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think a lot of it is grown in Sardinia?

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<v Speaker 4>A lot has grown Like in Sardinia, it's more common

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<v Speaker 4>than when I live in Rome to find for example,

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<v Speaker 4>if you find a veggie shop in Sardinia, very often

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<v Speaker 4>it's like the cellar is actually the farmer amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more common to find than in Rome.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the average average street you're probably not going

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<v Speaker 1>to find too many bananas. I'm suggesting.

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<v Speaker 4>No, if you see banana, obviously you know it comes

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<v Speaker 4>it's not from Sardinia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's just an interesting thing though, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in this Anglo Saxon culture we have, we're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>expecting everything to be there. You know, I'll kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit upset if my avocados aren't around.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's really in certain times a year there are

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<v Speaker 1>no avocados in Melbourne being grown. And so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>different way of life and I think it's slower and

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<v Speaker 1>more considered, and that's why they probably live to be

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred because they're just eating good food, walking a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably not thinking too hard about world events.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they are very relaxed.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, those that they actually live on on they

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<v Speaker 4>are usually the farmers. Yeah, maybe because they live in

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<v Speaker 4>a more relaxed and cleaner lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but usually they are farmers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really interesting because those people also work really,

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. You know, I think farming is not an

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<v Speaker 1>easy job choice.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but they say in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's something to be said for that, right is

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<v Speaker 1>being connected to the nature and just soaking up the

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<v Speaker 1>sun and the fresh air. Oh, it makes me want

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<v Speaker 1>to go for a walkout. Oh, Angela, it's been fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we wrap this up, I really love you to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me. What if there's one place you wish people

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<v Speaker 1>could see in Sardinia that will make them fall in

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<v Speaker 1>love with your special island. What would that be.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a very hard question because because of the variety.

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<v Speaker 4>But one of my very favorite places is really this

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<v Speaker 4>Barbagian or yah where I told you there is the

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<v Speaker 4>authentic Sardine, more authentic Sardinia, Sardinian spirits, Sardinian style. The

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<v Speaker 4>people of Sardinia, they are very friendly and warm all

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<v Speaker 4>over the island everywhere you go, but in this Barbadja

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<v Speaker 4>o Yasra they are warm, hospitable, still the old style,

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<v Speaker 4>like they actually open the door.

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<v Speaker 3>They even if they don't know you.

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<v Speaker 4>They actually opened the door of their home and tell

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<v Speaker 4>you to enter, please come in. When there is no

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<v Speaker 4>like let's say, for a festival, there is no there

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<v Speaker 4>is no bn B, there is no more space in

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<v Speaker 4>hotels and stuff private locals, they actually say, okay, come

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<v Speaker 4>come stay in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>In Sardinia you can steal experience wilderness.

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<v Speaker 4>Real wilderness, real warm real hospitality.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little continent on its own.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's your home. Yes, so amazing. It's been so

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<v Speaker 1>lovely hearing all about your beautiful home and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a place that's a little bit off the radar for

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<v Speaker 1>most of us who don't live in Europe. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just loved hearing about all the contrasts and the interesting

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<v Speaker 1>things you can do there, the festivals and the food

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<v Speaker 1>and all the archaeological sites. Angeline found listeners would like

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about Sardinia and stay in touch with you.

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<v Speaker 1>How can they do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a website Sardinia Revealed dot com. There are

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<v Speaker 4>update and I give plenty of.

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<v Speaker 3>Tips on how to visit.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I also have a Facebook group for this,

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<v Speaker 4>Sardina Reveal. It's a public group, so anyone can join,

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<v Speaker 4>they can ask any questions they need to know, and

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<v Speaker 4>we are there to answer and to hunt travelers traveling

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<v Speaker 4>to Sardinia. It's still requires planning because sometimes the rules

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<v Speaker 4>are not marked properly.

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<v Speaker 1>Google Maps may not work people, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Not everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be friendly to get some help. Oh goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>oh listeners, I really love Angela's thorough and detailed content.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a really great writer and she's got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of experience over many websites, and so definitely seek her

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<v Speaker 1>websites out when you're planning your trip to Sardinia and Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll put all of those details into our podcast

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. Gradsia, Angela, thank you for joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>jo Joo. I have to admit that Pink Beach is

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<v Speaker 1>so so tempting, and not to mention the ancient civilizations

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<v Speaker 1>and the pagan festival, which kind of reminds me a

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<v Speaker 1>little of the Crampus celebrations in the Dolomites. Sardinia seems

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those places that is just begging to

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<v Speaker 1>be ex and it is definitely one for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who have an adventurous spirit and love to be

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<v Speaker 1>spontaneous as the wilds of this island outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>main resort area known as the Emerald Coast near Oldvia,

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<v Speaker 1>are largely untouched. Do note that you will need a

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<v Speaker 1>car to get around, and not to expect smooth and

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<v Speaker 1>well maintained highways. There's not a lot of tourist infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>in Sardinia except at the resorts, but I know that

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<v Speaker 1>will be a big attraction for many of you. If

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to learn more about Sardinia, head on over

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<v Speaker 1>to our website show Notes, where we've put links to

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<v Speaker 1>Angela's site Sardinia Revealed. The link to our website show

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<v Speaker 1>Notes is Untold Italy dot com. Forward slash two one

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<v Speaker 1>nine for episode two hundred and nineteen, and as always,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of detailed information about the places visited

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<v Speaker 1>and mentioned on the show, so if you were struggling

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<v Speaker 1>to write those down and sort of catch up with

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<v Speaker 1>the Italian accent, then that's all there for you. Groud Semile.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to all our wonderful listeners for your support

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<v Speaker 1>of Untold Italy. I really hope you enjoyed today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>adventurous Italy travel lovers just like you. Next week on

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<v Speaker 1>Untold Italy, we're going to have a little discussion about

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly is Italian hospitality, and I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really important one to have because I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big reason why a lot of people want to visit Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've got a really good expert coming along to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you all about what it means to experience Italian hospitality.

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