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Welcome in Thud Lush's haired Lefty. The uh Riley's abs
is are the best abs in Dyau football history. We
got Riley Nelson on the line. Riley, does that Twitter
account still exist?
Speaker 3: I don't know. They rage quit. Well, what's funny is
like the person I think made it maybe is a
little bit of a satire account. And then they got
mad at me during that twenty twelve season when I
was playing hurt and they literally did like a rage
quit sign off, like they gave it up that it
was tweeting as though it was Riley's abs, and it
was actually the owner of the County rage quit about
a fumble or fake that I had, and so it hasn't.
It literally doesn't have a tweet since like October November
of twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know when Twitter like how long it accounts
been dormant, how long they wipe it off. But but
in real life, I got I got a trip to
Hawaii coming up in March, so I'm in the middle
of the little mini cut. Nice the a abs you know,
are always kind of there, but I don't. I don't
keep the diet. I got too many kids and too
much to do. I need to fuel. I need to
fuel the energy. You know, let the layer. I don't
let the layer get too thick on it. You can
always kind of see the outer outlines and stuff. But
I'm a little mini cut to try and get some
of the lines down the middle and the cross lines.
Those are the hardest ones for me. I can't I
get the one between the normal abs and the oblique.
But it's the it's the it's the cross lines that
you know, that's when Riley's ads are really shown out.
So if we can get that done by the by
before Mali in March, that'll be good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're heading out to Maui. Uh you work
out at home, you got a home gym, you go
to the local gym, you got a community gym. What
do you got? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I mean, for fear of giving away my secret,
there's a tennis club. Pretty cool. I used to work
out just the eos and it's great, and I still
maintain a membership there. But like tennis players don't lift
ben but guess what I don't they. I got all
the equipment, and so they got squat racked, clean rack,
they got the cross cable. They got dumbells up to
I wish there was dumbells up to you know, maybe
one thirty, but they got dumbells up to one hundred.
So I could get it and by myself. And when
there are some tennis players in there, you know they're
doing some rotational stuff and like medball more, but they're
not really pushing the weight. So it's it's like an
own personal gym to myself. And then you know, I
get the I got some cardio equipment at home and
some adjustable dumbbells when you can't make it to the gym.
So that's what we're doing to keep the waist side
from growing these.
Speaker 1: Days, luscious haired lefty talking workouts and getting ready for
a Maui trip on jealous of you here on your
Utah ESPN Radio network, Riley. You know this roster, you
see it. You've seen what BYU is over the last
two seasons obviously eleven and two twelve and two great
seasons back to back. You know how difficult it is
to win in college football, no matter who is on
the great art opposite of you, that opposite of that
line of scrimmage. What does it take? What will it
take for b with you to get over the hump
to get into the college football playoff right, to win
maybe a college football playoff game? Where are where? Where
are we deficient? When you're looking at the roster and
what we need to address in the portal?
Speaker 2: Yeah, hard to say deficient, but like, let's look at
those at the top of the sport, all right, and
where does their roster or when you watch them play,
when you watch Indiana and you watch Miami play, and
you think.
Speaker 3: Back to watching BYU play where are we most different?
And for me, the first place is like pass rushers.
I thought when we got Jay and even with Kilane,
and then we got you know, Sionipuula and we got
like I was, I was waiting for a recreation of
Sackla like city because I played those Utah teams and
I know how difficult it makes it on the offense
when you can rush the passer with four we have
we just cannot find a pass rusher. I like, have
we you know, it's it's been years. Tyler Baddy was
a nice player, but when you watched it, like he
didn't command. He didn't command the slot, like the slide
wasn't to him every time. He didn't command chips, he
didn't command double teams. Like. He was a nice player,
but he wasn't one that the offensive line and quarterback
were having to account for him pro on on obvious
passing downs. So to me, like, don't get me wrong,
we got nasty linebackers and they make a lot of
plays and all that, but man, I would love someone
on the edge. And really I'm talking the full front four, right,
but like that that to me, that front four level,
but mostly But you know, I think a ton of USA,
you know, did get up, and I think we've been
good up the middle. I don't I don't see as
much deficiency with our our tackles. I would love small
production over edges. But Ben, you know, we we planned
a little bit what we were going to talk about
before that. I'm saying edge what And maybe you've talked
about this before because I haven't been on since the
announced Kelly taken over his DC, the coaching to be
taken over his DC. He played under Bronco right three
with the three five three or three four however you
want to give you that, but basically, you know the
odd man, Yeah, the three four, the odd man, the
two gap on the D line. But then he's been
on Ja's hill for or he's been on Jay's staff
for the last couple of years. What do you think
Kelly's doing? Do you think you think he's going to
optimize it to personnel or is he most is he
a is he a classic three four guy? And because
we can and because traditionally we've been able to recruit
productive linebackers more than we've been able to recruit elite
pass rushers what are we going to see at a
coach Lapina, Do you have any insight into that? Uh?
Speaker 1: I think he's going to always cater to the personnel, right,
and and the personnel will be dictated by what you
can recruit and what you can bring into EYU as
a fit, right, so you have multiple fits. You obviously
have to qualify as a football player first, but you're
also having to qualify as you know, honor code, you know,
a bider. And there's still an academic portion to getting
into BYU that no one really talks about. People talk about, Oh, well,
b why he's a private institution, they can bring whoever
they want. Yeah, but the academic silo of Brigham as
well as the moral, ethical, theological, honor code component silo
of b why you still have influence and still can
can deter and attract players. So to me, you know,
that's my initial you know, reaction to it. He's going
to conduct himself in a way that that will will
maximize the personnel that he can get to b WYU
and formulate the defense around that. Last year I tallied
it up, we were uh seventy percent of the time.
And this may come as a surprise to you, seventy
percent of the time we were running thirty front with
a stand up edge, whether it was jack or noose
as a two point. Remember, just because you know you
see a forty front there, but they're not four down linemen.
You're not seeing a seven tech on either side with
with rush ends with a hand in there dirt. You're
seeing Jack Kelly is a stand up outside linebacker on
the strong side. You're seeing Nucy, Tom Wepey. You stand
up outside linebacker on the strong side. You know, in
the traditional three four that we ran six o seven
through even your era, it was typically typically a stand
up outside outside linebacker two point off the weak side
edge right, that's where they would stand up and you
would rotate your your five tech.
Speaker 3: Cayle Vanoyd became the greatest, arguably the greatest defensive player
in history playing that role and using his instant on
his ability to recav it.
Speaker 1: So you can kind of mix a match between those.
But so I've gone off on tangents about this, and
it may be controversial. I think if Utah fans get
ahold of it and other people that's like I say,
you know, what would you know? May be interpreted as controversial,
but I still think like to get the dogs that
you want. It's like what Dion Sanders said, what is
Deon Sanders looking for in defensive ends? What did he say?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, he I mean that was quite controversial.
Speaker 1: Anybody shop enough.
Speaker 3: I don't know that we want to say. I don't
know that we want to repeat that on that.
Speaker 1: No, I've I've said it like it's what Dion said
and we can I can quote him, and so I'm
willing to go on like he's looking the listeners.
Speaker 3: Let the listeners do do that on investigation. But yeah,
it is true. You know, I think there's probably an
element of truth to what Dion says.
Speaker 1: So like let me ask you this, how many true
dogs defensive Lineman did you play with that b yu right?
And how many of them struggled at BYU right? That
you know academically and honor code wise dogs?
Speaker 3: So d Lineman, So not that, but like overall, dog
we have some dogs and other positions and we don't
need to.
Speaker 1: Bring up yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Struggled like like like the first one comes to mind,
like you say dog, like dude willing to put his
body on the line, life on the line. Any guy
that didn't come from the trigger. By the way, we
have plenty of r ms like yeah, Danny Thornson, Gerbrena
are plenty of always, but talking about dudes that don't
that we're willing to put their body on the line,
we're dogs. But talking about dudes that don't come from
that traditional background, they didn't last like whether it was
whether it was you know, altercations with with the logs
like fighting and stuff, or whether it was honor code
or whether it was academics, they did not finish their
careers there. So you burned up a good point.
Speaker 1: Well, not only that, like I can I can list off,
you know, you know, the legal issues that that they
even the guys that were retained, the dogs that have
been retained, they they struggled in all those and they
found a way. And so I think also the Honor
Code and b wa Using institution has learned that they
probably need a little bit more grace and understanding and
have perspective of like how they handle honor code violations,
how they handle certain things right, and uh that the
negative effects of like you know, kicking people out too
when they've made mistakes and fallen short. So anyway, that's
why I'm not everyone else is sold on the forty
front and you have to have two deep, you have
to have eight guys that are all typically dogs.
Speaker 2: Eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when in b YU football history.
Speaker 3: In South Florida, Yeah, if you're in Coral Gables, you
can find those dudes and you can and you can
graduate again. Yeah, I mean I can. I like hearing
an eight dog, I haven't been able to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a high that's.
Speaker 3: A high bar to clear. And and by the way,
we've been able to say, like, okay, so you run
a three four, Now I gotta find eight at the
second level. I'd say we can get a lot closer
to getting eight at that second level, just historically, what
the caliber player that we've been able to recruit there
than we have with the dudes in the hand on
the ground. So you started this with portal, I'll just
give you my other one just so go ahead. We
got to go, and we got and I got Junior
Jazz at five, So we got to leave here a
little bit. But my team, I mean, we we won.
We were down sixteen sixteen fourteen in the last three minutes.
We scored five unanswered points won the game nineteen sixteen.
So we gotta you want to know, we gotta go
to and o this this week. But anyway, coming back, dude,
running back depths. I'm so pumped that LJ came back.
But like, let's take let's you look at every productive offense.
You know, the and I know the Bears lost, but
they had Swift and the Nun guy and I know
he just oh shoot Williams.
Speaker 2: But the dude that had the A C L for
the for the Seahawks, who was taking.
Speaker 3: The second is Chary. Yeah, you got Williams and Charmon
Ay right, Like you look across and everybody shares carries.
Now everyone carries, and we gotta we gotta find that
one two punch we anyway, so I was hoping, I'm waiting.
I don't and I actually don't know if the portals
closed or whatever, but I would like to see some
running back depths get built there and then we gotta
find and maybe maybe it's in the room. I know
the room. I don't know if he's optimistic about the
room in the wide receiver, but losing Chase and then
just overall, like looking across again, who's the best in
the game. And I'm not saying we're going to be
able to find a Malachi Tony right or I can't
remember the kid from Indiana but he was now he's
more of a possession type guy. But like, we need
a true number one, and that, to me, that was
I talked about, Like we haven't had a pass rusher
that demands the uh, that demands the slide from the
old line or that the line. We also haven't had
a wide receiver that defenses has had to account for.
That safeties and dbs have had to account for since
Puca so and that's but we've had nice players. We've
had good players, and I think Parker Keaston like gives
some fits. But you saw when we kind of leveled
up against the Texas at the caliber of the Texas
text which are at the top of our conference, and
the calibers of defense is playing in the college football
we don't have that. And then this, I don't know
if this is so much portal, but it's just as
I look at the team, like, just where where might
I be concerned a deficiency might show up? Is losing
Gennaro's I think a big blow from everything that I
was able to kind of hear like secure in those
dv's and I'm glad like to do like Evan Johnson
some of these others that coming back to be, He's
glad he's got him in the room. But he had
that pipeline humming man like for our dB, specifically our cornerbacks.
I feel like our cornerbacks these last three to four
years were as solid as ever and it to me
that allowed our linebackers, Like it allowed Kelly to play
more free and do all that because he wasn't as
worried about participating on the back end of the defense.
Was we were able to be a little bit more
free and a little bit more aggressive because we could
really trust those dudes on the side and and do
all that. And anyway, I was glad to see, you know,
Gennald maybe didn't get too many of our quarterbacks, or
if any, I don't think any of them left with him.
But it's more for me the recruiting going on, going
the recruiting forward, looking for our cornerback so so used
Ao as me. I'd love an edge rusher. I want
to keep our cornerback strong. I'd love to see some
more RB depth and whatever they got to do where
it's going out and getting a number one, or if
they gotta just packed that wide receiver room hoping that
a true wide receiver one emerges. Those are my main
position groups that I'm looking position groups of interest following
this season heading into next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at last year what we lost right
and the impact that some of those losses made. And
obviously Keelan is the highlighted one and Loy he could
have done his wide receiver one at b YU. That
was a devastating blow. Like if you wanted to win
a Big twelve championship, you needed Keelan Marion doing your
kickoff returns and being wide receiver one. I mean, let's
be honest. He could have been awesome for BYU and
that could have been the difference between BYU. Could could
Keelan Marin had been the difference in your opinion to
getting you know, you think that you were still too
far away. Yeah, I mean he's a number one at
b YU. He's a number one at b YU, and
he became a number one at times in Miami. I know,
Malachi Tony got a lot of test targets.
Speaker 3: Then to me, that's settling, Like and I say that
to say that, like, look, Keeman made some nice plays.
We had a couple of nice catches against who they
beating the against the Oregon and all that, but like
you want to know, you want to know how you
know a number one. Whenever Keelan was the least bit
challenge or that there was, there was like a And
I'm not this is just what I'm saying objectively. It
is not him personal or whatever, but just as a
football player, like how many contesting catches did that to
come out with? And gotta have a situation down to that.
Everyone's like, oh, he got a nice game in the semifinals,
yeah when the game.
Speaker 1: Was He's a He's a vertical threat, not a jumpall threat.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, like contested catches A number one.
First of all, he gets open in the curl flat zones.
He number one is able to manipulate zone, find space
over the middle. A number one beats his cornerback. Yeah,
he's a vertical threat. But then he snaps it off
and you can throw the comeback to him on third
and twelve or fifteen yards, Heil and Maren can run
down the field, and essentially it was if he creates separation,
will catch it for a big play. If he doesn't
it and contested, you can see it in his eyes.
He's hoping for a p He's hoping for a PI
we have had. I'll tell you what Cody Hoffmann. Cody
hoff was able to make plays down the field even
though he wasn't a fourth dude. Like that's that's a
true number one, Austin Colly, true number one, like Pukaakua,
true number one. And I loved what they did with Pooka,
Like like Austin and and Cody were on the outside Pooka.
I loved it. What Aaron. We got to see a
true number one in Aaron's they did honestly, Like I
think the rams were just like, love what this Robert
guy's doing. Let's do the same thing. They got him
on fly sweeps. They're moving him into the slot, he's
lined up outside one on one. They're doing all that
kind of stuff. And look, I just mentioned each one
of those dudes. It's if you kind of even it out.
I mentioned Austin, Austin, Cody, and Pooka. That's about one
every seven years. Pooka when did he leave twenty twenty
oh twenty two, So it's more recent than I thought.
But we're we're coming up. We're probably due for our
next one. And let's be honest, we're gonna level up
in our recruiting. Rather than finding one every seven years,
we should find one, hopefully every four or five. And
so a big long rant. No, I will not concede
that Keela Marion was would have been. That would have
been the difference for us. It's nice to have a
guy that takes the top off thring, but like, okay,
what if you're facing two like in the NFL. What
if Texas Tech who would have been fully capable of
staying in a two shell limiting our run game? And
so now you're not going to take the top off
a two deep shell. Now, what does Keela Marion do?
Is how good is he manipulating the zone and finding
space given his quarterback space and in a post curl
you know.
Speaker 1: Was Darius Lassiter or a wide receiver one if we
could have got as Juco year bag I was.
Speaker 3: I was more of the three of Marion, Jojo and
ke and Lassiter I was most but even lasser Was
would show up in some When he would show up,
he was really impressive and encouraging, but then he would
just disappear for others.
Speaker 2: But so this goes back.
Speaker 3: Maybe the dude's in the room already, but I haven't
seen much wide receiver movement in the portal. I'd love
to go out and get one that we got film
on we know is a proven commodity. But if we
can't get that, I'd least like get another couple of
dudes who are going to compete and hopefully emerge.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought the most underrated transportal loss was
from last year. I actually thought Miles Davis was a
bit underrated. In his senior season at Utah State, had
seven or thirty one total rushing yards five point six
yards per carry, eight rushing touchdowns. He had an additional
two hundred and one total receiving yards at seven point
two yards per reception and three receiving touchdowns. Thought he
could have been a good RB two for b YU
behind LJ. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would have loved to be able to hold on
to him. I will say a couple of caveats there,
Dan and.
Speaker 1: I I'm not Yeah, you got to see him at
the Cash Valley You're a cash Valley kid.
Speaker 3: As everyone knows, I support my coach. You know, I'm
a Logan boy, and when Bronco got up there, I
went back all in. I'm a season ticket older up
there as along with being a season ticket older down
in Provo.
Speaker 1: But so we were.
Speaker 3: You know, I was up in Logan whenever there wasn't
a game of Provo. My and I love Miles. I
got to know Miles a lot. He and I shared
the same scholarship donor. We've had multiple dinners together. He's
come over hung out of my house like Miles. Well,
I will, I will do anything for Miles, but I
will just say I think the move down to the
G five, I've helped his production a little bit. I don't. Yeah,
just and bro watching him, you took that same athlete.
There was just that much more space. You kind of
had that much more cushion, that much more forgiving. You know,
the cutback on his own can be made that half
count a little bit later, but you can still hit
it right versus when you're playing the top of the
Big twelve. Unless unless you anticipate that backside a gap
opening up, there's no way you're getting it if you
see by the time if you see the backside a
gap or even the front side b if you see
it open and you're not already there one step away,
it's going to be closed by the time you get there,
sort of a thing. And then and then the second
thing I'll say is, you know, I thought mcgiven it
was a little bit more open, they created more space
up there. I think it had to do with barns
and barns and skill set and kind of the personnel
that they had. But they knew they couldn't line up
and beat people like BYU has been able to do
in the run game. You know, think about that Cincinnati game.
They were a little bit more in space. So two
things the move tot G five I think helping the
and I think being in a in an offense where
you're running more in space versus an offense against b
YU where it's more dependent upon the front. You know,
the offensive fronts, physicality and your ability to anticipate reads
and make uh and meet and make great cuts a
couple of things there. But bro I would have loved
to have, I mean, would have killed to have miles
for RB depth right, which is another aspect that I
talked about or did I hope to see they go
out and do in the portal addressing.
Speaker 1: The portal, No doubt about it. A couple last things, Riley,
as you've got things to do, people to see, places
to go, et cetera. We appreciate you hopping on for
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BYU football in a great spot right now. Obviously there's
there's things to be things to be done in order
to take that next step. But I mean the retention
was pretty pretty crazy. Like you no impactful transfers, you
would say, And uh, even though you lose coach g
and coach Jay Hill, you you retained much of your
coaching staff as well. Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 3: Feel chiefish and I mean, but we've got to fill
the air man, you know what I'm saying. So y,
I gotta come, I gotta come up with thoughts and
I got to their opinions that that the you know,
to fill the airwaves with the reality is, how do
you really how do you in how do you in
good conscience? As a if you're truly a ball Knower.
How do you criticize anything that they're doing down there?
I mean, so I want everything that we've just talked
about over the last fifteen minutes, though those are like
more wishless items, they are not They are not criticisms
because the program is an is an utterly great spot.
I mean everything about Colient Satalk and his leadership and
the culture that he's created both with both amongst his
staff and amongst his players, like you cannot find better.
Everyone wants to talk about Signetti, like I don't know, bro,
Like I love, I kind of love his stick, and
he's unhappy, he's kinds of grumpy old man, but he
just gets it done. But like, for I got a
feeling like Signetti, the second thing turns south, the crew
might turn on it. You know, they might have a
mutiny on his hands a little bit. I'm not I
don't know if that's true, but like he's hopped around
so much, I don't know. Kilanie is we are set
with Kilani and with Papinga at the and then Papinga
and Roderick at the two coordinators, and then all that's
supposed to support staff and longtime supports staff like Sessi
and Harve and you know, all these dudes like there
were set up for the next.
Speaker 2: Decade plus, if not more, with this staff.
Speaker 3: So I couldn't be more pleased about more proud to
be a Cougar, and more pleased with all the efforts
from from everybody down there, both players and coaches. And
like we talked about the wistlers, let's go to the
flip side. Like bear Bachmer, I think unquestioned the best
freshman quarterback, you know, other hundred people are going to
be the press because you know, unfortunately plays at BYU,
maybe wears a weird number or whatever. He's just not
as flat she but or he might not be the
punin's favorite guy. But like best freshman quarterback in the year,
the offensive conference player of the year returning back on
the roster, you got glasterback who's an impact player. You
got Evan Johnson coming back, Like I mean, expectations should
be conference championship or bust. And like, man, if you
would have if you would have told that to me
back when I was calling radio in twenty twenty, I
would have been like, wait, we're gonna go P five
and within three years we're gonna be a perennial conference
contender by retaining our roster in an age of nil
where everybody's going to the highest bidder. I would have
called you crazy, but that is the reality facing this
PAU program right now. So it's a great time to
be a cougar.
Speaker 1: Who's got the better scal Who's the better grumpy head coach?
Kirk Sidnetti or broncoman at Hall?
Speaker 3: A great question, Ben Can I tell you? I think
it's Bronco because Bronco never gave you anything, never gave
you anything. Bro Signetti will give you a smirk here
or there, and he might give someone a Bronco was
nothing now late in his career, like the first time,
I'll never forget. I was like, Man, Bronco's changing was Nebraska,
Mitch catches that ball in the oh yeah, and you
running around with his hands up. I thought he was
gonna rip off his shirt but anyway, but no, he
goes to Bronco.
Speaker 1: Bro Bronco the best grumpy coach in college football. Love
Bronco always business Baby, Appreciate you, Riley. We'll catch up
again soon, Man, Thanks for hopping off.
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. Talk soon.
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of tickets. To take a brief time out, we'll be back.
Darnell Dixon coming up next. This is Cougar Sports on
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