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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you forgetting your pod on.
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word. Ah,
lots of things happening in the world. One of the
things that we have to look at is the youth
of America and when they're going to be taken over.
And Kevin is very invested in youth hockey. I think
sports are just one of the best things for kids
to be part of because it's all about meritocracy, right.
The better you are, the more you'll play, the better
you almost become.
Speaker 3: I just think of the things I could buy without
having youth sports in my life.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, what do you think it could be. I
can't even imagine. I can't even imagine what you spend
on youth hockey. Oh yeah, crazy. And the fact that
these kids grow so quickly. I got to think that
maybe you're buying a new size skate.
Speaker 3: That's why, Brady, that's why Brady has one skate from
Salmon he was six, one skate from Britain Tyler when
he was nine.
Speaker 2: He's just getting all the crap at this point, but
Kevin has brought in. Am I going to say the
last name? Right? Let's say Joe Chino Okino O Keno? God,
dang it close to two s's sorry, Joe Keno? Who
is Uh? You've been coaching youth sports for twenty plus years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually started as soon as I got out
of high college.
Speaker 5: I started. I started coaching hockey.
Speaker 2: Kind of did you play in Geneseo? Played club hockey?
Did they have a team? Then they had they had
a team.
Speaker 4: And when I got there as a freshman, I saw
some advertisements for club hockey and I was like, oh,
I'm kind of see what this is all about.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Turned out the guy running it is one of my
best friends now still Crimson, Jersey. So he was kind
of starting it up himself there and I played there
U and then when I went home, I was kind
of interested in I wanted to start coaching a little bit. Yeah,
So I I saw an advertisement for like a coaching
position and I called up and I was more just
inquiring like what do.
Speaker 2: I need to do to coach?
Speaker 4: Right, and they kind of laid out some of the
you know, like oh, this is what you'd have to
have and I was like, great, that's awesome. Like, you know,
I was not really interested in doing it. I just
wanted to know what I needed so I could get started.
And the following day they called me in were like, hey,
you want to do it? And I was like, I,
you know, I was like I kind of wanted to,
but I was like, you know, I'm right out of college.
I was still looking for a job at that point,
and uh, there was just a part of me that said,
you know what if, if you're going to do it someday,
just go do it, right.
Speaker 5: So I told him I would do it.
Speaker 4: It was high school kids, so not much uh younger
than myself at the time, and.
Speaker 2: Uh probably made it really relatable for you or you
to them. Yeah I did.
Speaker 4: It was great, and I uh, I had no assistant coaches.
Speaker 2: So wait, so they put you in as a head coach. Yeah,
I'm thinking you're going in as an assistant to a program. No,
they just threw you right into the man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went and I had to go.
Speaker 2: In the thin part of the ice fall through Joe. Yeah,
Jesus had.
Speaker 4: To get my you know, got my certifications and stuff
that I needed for USA Hockey and we went from
there and it was actually it was it was really cool.
Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: So you like, is that the age group you've stayed at,
because what what is Tyler's fourteen? Tyler?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Tyler. He's been with Tyler since Tyler was Yeah, there.
Speaker 2: Was eight, So you've done all ages.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so so that that first year. I
remember my my very first game I coached was right
at a rink that I used to work at in Buffalo,
and uh, I went in there and we got crushed.
I got killed my first game. And I remember driving
home and I was like, well, either I'm in for
a really long season and this is not going to
be as fun as I thought, or maybe that's just
the best team in the league.
Speaker 2: Let's let's hope for that.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: And it turned out it actually was the best team
in the league. They were the best team in the league,
and the whole season turned out to be great. I
had a lot of super relationships with the kids. Like
you said, the fact that it was close like an age.
They were always asking me, you know, questions about college
and and this and that and we're going to get
the good beer cheap and uh. It was awesome. I
mean it was it was It was super satisfying. And
from that point on I was kind of like, man,
maybe this is something that I want to do more of,
whether it be working with kids or I mean, it
was one of the reasons I went back for teaching, Yes,
because I are you a teacher now, I'm I'm a teacher.
I'm not in the classroom right now. Okay, So but
it was like I was like, man, this it got
me thinking that it was maybe a direction I wanted
to go in life. Yeah, and I you know that
it was more fulfilling than I was doing an accounting job.
Speaker 2: So what did you learn? What have you learned from
the kids along the way? I mean, your your job
is to coach, But what have you learned from kids
along the way? Anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, they're they're they're Well it depends on which
age group you're talking about, right, Yeah, because I coached
so that those are called midgets.
Speaker 5: The older kids when you're fifteen to eighteen is midget.
Speaker 2: Hockey.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I coached midgets all the time in Buffalo.
Then I came up to rochat My my wife, who
was my girlfriend at the time, lived here and she
had a job. She she was a year older than
me out of Geneseo. So I came up here and ladies,
I actually I actually went to get a coaching job
up here before I even had an actual job, which
probably is not a great choice. But I started coaching
the midgets up here as well. And then after a
couple of years, the group that I had was kind
of like graduating and like moving on, and we were
getting ready to start a family. So I was like,
I know myself, like I'm super super loyal, and I
was like, if I start with a fresh group of kids,
it's going to be super.
Speaker 5: Hard for me to walk away, right.
Speaker 4: So I was like most of the kids that I
had coached, they were graduating and we were getting ready
to start a family. So I was like, I'm I'm
gonna take a break. So I took a break for
a little while. And then once my son started up,
uh you know, the like mini mites.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when I went back and.
Speaker 4: I coached that this that group like all the way up.
But my I'm I'm an older kid for over over
the little kids. The little kids are are tough, much
more of an older, older.
Speaker 2: Kid type of coach.
Speaker 3: But he's got a dynamic that with this team that
you don't normally see with U sports. Like the core
of this team that he's got, the Tyler's on they've
been together since they were eight, so they've played together
for most most of the point most of the team
has been together for seven almost eight years. And you
don't usually at some point somebody gets pissed off somewhere
and like, I'm going over here. My kid's gonna be
a pro, So I'm gonna go over here.
Speaker 2: He hasn't had that.
Speaker 3: He's had, he's had the same core team that he's
just grown with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we've had, you know, we've had one
or two that have have you know, coming different different rate,
different ways. But we do have, uh, you know, we
have a group i'd say fifth det to sixty percent
that have been together for a real long time, which
is and I coach my daughter's team as well.
Speaker 2: And what's better, what's what in terms of coaching, what's
harder to the boys or girls. I would think at
the different ages. I'm I'm serious. I think it would
be harder to coach little boys. Let's say, I don't
know how old was uh Tyler when he started or
Sam when he started, they were both Sam was six
and okay, there was seven. So give me six or
seven year old boys versus six or seven year old girls.
And I think little boys are all over the place
trying to bang into each other, do this, And I
think little girls will actually listen to you. Yeah, and
then I don't know if that changes later on, but
the boys are just funny. Seems like the boys.
Speaker 3: Are just funny at that point though, because it's just
it's you know, standard six seven year old boy fart jokes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But every every every team that you have with the
with the you know the boys, yeah, inevitably the little groups,
there's always one kid that's just like a nightmare.
Speaker 2: You're just like, his name is Tyler, No, no, he wasn't.
Speaker 5: But like you're just trying to run drills or trying
to set.
Speaker 4: Something up, and he's just like tripping people for no reason,
just no reason, and you're just like, oh, man, Like
it's it's hard because they're the boys are all over.
Speaker 5: The girls are.
Speaker 2: They're better, they're better listeners.
Speaker 3: They are also have you gotten into girl drama yet though?
At that because I know Livy's about that age where
the boys start coming into the plays.
Speaker 5: You got any girl drama on that team?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: We I mean they're they're a little more reserved with
their like emotions and stuff, or I think sometimes they're
more eager to show share it with each other than
they are with coaches. Right, Like, we've had games like
in the last you know, few years where like, you know,
the dads will be talking afterward and we're like, oh, man,
that was a tough loss, and like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like I don't even know if the girls care.
Speaker 4: And then like they'll be like some of the moms
will be texting each other about how upset the girls
were in the car, right, and they're like, oh, she
was beating herself up over this, and you're just like, wow,
like you don't really they don't show it the same
way that boys do, right, right, I think boys are
more eager to you know, scream slam their stick just
you know, show that they're really upset, and the girls
maybe not so much, but they you know, they they
actually are, you know what I mean, they just I
guess they they show it in different ways.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. But you've been doing this for twenty years,
correct about that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in that time, what's changed with the kids?
Have the kids changed as they come through I hear
different things from coaches now that say it's not the
kid is different, but you've had the same kids, so
maybe they're not. I have.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think the you know, the
technology stuff obviously has changed the way kids are, right
that's I think. I think attention spans are definitely definitely shorter,
you know what I mean, Like like at this point,
like if the kids aren't entertained every couple seconds, it's
it becomes an issue.
Speaker 5: So I think that that part's changed.
Speaker 4: I think the I think the the seriousness, or not
not the seriousness, the way the games are approached. Like
right now, like every sport wants their sport to be
year round and they want every player to be fully committed,
like all the time, and that's you know that that
becomes I think that's a little bit that's a little
bit different, you know what I mean. Like now there's
there's really no off seasons to anything unless unless.
Speaker 5: They make it Like I actually, I kind of go
out of.
Speaker 2: My way to.
Speaker 4: Not not to do that, right, you know what I mean,
I'll have the teams get together a little bit over
the summer, but you know, and some people may say,
you know, well, you're not doing everything to make your
team as strong.
Speaker 2: As they can.
Speaker 4: But I realistically, I say this all the time. I
don't think I'm ever going to leave a game in
December that I lost three to two and be like.
Speaker 2: God, damn, we only got together in August twenty third.
That's right.
Speaker 7: I would have made all the difference.
Speaker 4: I had two all the different two more summer sessions.
I made people cancel their summer vacations.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we would have we would have won.
Speaker 4: So you know, I mean, like I said, well, we'll
have some summer ices or some you know what.
Speaker 5: A lot of times it's even.
Speaker 4: The off ice stuff that the kids they enjoy a ton, right,
Like they get to be kids and not listen to
coach and just run around and have fun doing summer stuff.
And I think there's a lot of team building and
stuff in that too.
Speaker 3: Have the parents changed over twenty years, has it gotten
worse with parents. Yeah, Kevin, I'm just pretty much quiet.
Speaker 2: I just speak for yourself.
Speaker 5: I'm the quiet one myself.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's come the quiet one maybe a little bit now.
There there's there's always parents that are crazy. I mean, listen,
it comes down.
Speaker 2: To, well, you're investing in a lot of money, and
I think they feel like you work for them.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong, and they think their kid's gonna go
professional sucks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think I think that is part
of it, right, the money.
Speaker 2: And the time. Yeah, the time.
Speaker 4: Like, like I I did not realize the you know,
both of both of my parents have passed away. But
like I did not realize until I became an adult
what it's like to work a job, come home, have
to take care of the house, and then every night
run out to you know, whatever sport it is. And
this isn't just hockey, this is all of them, right,
Like it's you know, and as you get older, you
get tired. You know, it's exhausting, right, And like, if
there's one thing I could ever, you know, say to
my dad, and because my mind didn't drive, it was
all on.
Speaker 2: My Wow, this is some old school stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And Uh.
Speaker 2: Like wait, what is how are we saying? Is that Italian? Yeah?
Off the boat Italian?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: My my father wasn't his father was, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I never very few women don't. People don't drive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so she had her license, she I mean, I
mean she would the only time she would drive would
be like six in the morning. I she wants to
go to the store, right, and nobody's ever around, you
know what I mean. So like it all fell out
of my dad. But like that amount of commitment is
you know, from Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I think that's what influences parents, correct, Right.
Speaker 4: They're so vested, whether it be financially or time wise.
Plus you you know, everyone wants the best for their kid.
But it's it's always been crazy. I mean I remember
when my brother played high school. So I got three
older brothers. Uh, the youngest of the older played hockey,
and uh we were at we were at leisure rinks
and and for a high school game, and there was
like a like a brawl and like one of the
moms jumped on the ice. She jumped on the ice
and was like fighting a kid. And I was just like,
I mean it was pandam.
Speaker 2: So maybe it's maybe it's hockey parents, Kevin. Maybe I can't.
Speaker 5: I can't say that that.
Speaker 3: Some of the moms on Tyler's team have not been
close to that.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The only time I got thrown out of a game
by the referee was because I was sitting.
Speaker 2: With the moms. Oh yeah, the only time I've been
thrown out. Was it just a group thing? Were you
opening your trap?
Speaker 3: Or I was looking down to one of the dads
that was standing below me and I said something to him.
The refought I was talking to him, and the moms
were flapping and flapping and flapping, and they pointed to
me and.
Speaker 2: Go, so just you had to lead.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we've had that a few times with no no, no,
with with with hockey parents.
Speaker 2: But it is. It's it's a lot.
Speaker 4: I mean, my son plays baseball, and I've been in
baseball fields and you're just like, oh man, some of
these people are just you know, and it's.
Speaker 2: A good show.
Speaker 3: It's fun to sit back and just watch parents sometimes
be parents, and it's it's never really the superstar kid
whose parents are flapping. It's always little Jimmy who sucks
can beat out in the outfield, chasing butterflies and his
parents are bitching and complaining because he's not playing first base,
and this and that, and he's picking his ass and
chasing butterflies and pulling grass well.
Speaker 4: And and and there's the there's the there's just that
perspective on. I mean, like you said, I say this
all the time. For me, I pay the money for
my kids to play sports because there's a lot of
lessons that they can learn there. I mean, I'm a
sports nut, right, I followed him as ever since I
was a kid.
Speaker 2: Stats. I love that stuff.
Speaker 5: Uh, and it's it's like.
Speaker 4: The the kids. No.
Speaker 2: But well, what I was thinking too is because Danny
always says it's the greatest what sports, Oh, I have,
it's meritocracy.
Speaker 8: It's the It's the one place where like either you're
good or you won't. You don't play because everything is
based on wins and losses. Right, if you don't win,
you're out. If you don't, if you don't, it's it's
a competition. It's competition for position. It's a competition to
win games all the way up.
Speaker 2: It's a competition. Danny loves sports. But was but it
was awful at it was awful at it. But I
don't think you have to be good at sports to
appreciate and see what value it breaks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and those those those different lessons that
that you can that you can learn from.
Speaker 2: It, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And there's you know, there's a ton of them to
to to be had, right, and it's you know, my
kid's not gonna get it if he's sitting at home
not doing.
Speaker 2: That stuff, right. Yeah. Do you find any differences between
keeps them out of trouble too? Yeah? For sure? Time.
Speaker 8: You know, boys play more team sports, girls do more
individual stuff like gymnastics and whatnot. Do you know any
differences between coaching either of them? Is one hard to
coach and the other because boys are more geared towards
team sports for the most part, and girls are more
geared towards individual accolades.
Speaker 7: Do you find that or is that not a thing?
Speaker 4: I mean, the team, the team part of it is, right,
Like there's like you're you're you're not only trying to
perform your best for yourself, but you know you should
have a role on your team. And as you get older,
as you get older, those things become a little more defined,
you know what I mean? And and like when you
you know, maybe when you're younger, maybe maybe not so much.
Speaker 5: But in the individual and an individuals, like it's it's
on you, right.
Speaker 3: Like you.
Speaker 5: Got no one else to blame.
Speaker 2: Wait, you saying that girls are better at individual sports
than teams.
Speaker 8: Know what I'm saying. What I'm saying is like a
lot of times like parents might be more well they're
they're all crazy. But I think boys grow up being
part of a team sooner rather than girls. Girls come
up in gymnastics, they come up another like more individualized
sports and then eventually play team sports or boys you're
playing team sports. It's like you know, like to start
bodybuilding at three, right, you know, you're playing like a
team sport. You're playing soccer, you're playing hockey.
Speaker 3: He's just pissed every time they've gone to play best
kicked because she was an individual.
Speaker 5: No, I see what you're saying, right, Yeah, But I
think I think even I.
Speaker 2: Think it's changed a little bit. I think I do,
and I'm not.
Speaker 4: I So, I got two daughters, but they're both into
baseball and hockey too. But we know plenty of people
that do the gymnastics and the cheering and stuff, and
I think that's all geared towards team.
Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, I think the gymnastics or the cheers definitely team.
Speaker 8: Maybe when we were growing up, like it was dancing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I still think they. I mean I
certainly won't cool. They try to get you into dance too.
Speaker 5: No, dude, I just did that fancy dancing on the reservation.
Speaker 8: I had a hard time, like sitting the bench.
Speaker 4: My daughter a big square dancer, my Metalan, my metal
daughter did dance for one session. She's like, Dad, I
want to do dance. I want to do dance. I
was like, I don't know. I don't know the first thing, right,
So we like sign her up and they're like, well
they start off.
Speaker 5: And like ballet and tapper, no ballet and.
Speaker 4: Something else right, and like after I think my daughter
thought she was going to go in and just like
start you know, hip hop music and dancing.
Speaker 5: Like she did it like three times.
Speaker 2: She's like I'm out.
Speaker 4: I said, you're you're not out. You're going to finish
the session, because you sign up for something, you finish it.
And we went we went to the dance recital and
we bought the DVD.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever watched it, and she's out.
Speaker 5: She never went back.
Speaker 4: She thought she was just jumping into like you know,
she was gonna be club and dance and at eight
years old.
Speaker 2: That's like funny, that's very funny. Well we'll take them all.
We'll do a little more with with coach Ochino, who
is a Genesee grad and I I don't know if
this is true or not, Kevin says, it's legendary.
Speaker 4: I was in a fraternity. I was in a fraternity.
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seventy two.
Speaker 7: We all squeeze is sticking me out the trigger. Remember
sitting inside you?
Speaker 2: He said you did you have.
Speaker 6: A fuck about hockey?
Speaker 7: Gord Down.
Speaker 8: He is Harry Sindon's.
Speaker 2: Gods, the tragically hit Fireworks hockey song site.
Speaker 8: Harry Sindon was the GM of the Boston Bruins.
Speaker 2: For your look for that.
Speaker 8: You got this kid grow up in Kickson, Ontario. Everybody's
either rooting for the Leafs or the Canadians and he's
a Boston Bruins six.
Speaker 2: To your family. A lot is thicker than water down,
That's what I was told. I don't know that's uh
tragically hip because Kevin's kid plays a lot of hockey
like it's summer. Yeah, it's a lot of hockey. And Joe,
how are you ever home? Oh?
Speaker 7: Gin know?
Speaker 2: You ever get just you know?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is there ever a day that you just get to
go as nothing to do today?
Speaker 4: So so it depends on the season. This this season, Uh,
I've actually my son and my daughter have practiced on
the same night, which makes it tricky. So sometimes I'm
going rink to rink. Sometimes there's conflicts and I necessarily
can't make it to one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 4: I got great assist and coaches and I just communicate
and we make sure that we can cover them both.
Speaker 2: Uh So then wait, you're coaching both your son and
your daughter's team. Is that what you were trying to say? Oh,
I thought you meant just running them to the same practice.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, coach coaching them both.
Speaker 4: And then my youngest daughter practices on the other two days,
so I will usually bring her to one of those,
and then I let my wife, I don't let her
question she she takes her on one of the days
and I just stay home.
Speaker 2: And then and then.
Speaker 4: Fridays are sometimes we have hockey and then every weekend
it's two to three games.
Speaker 5: But then last year.
Speaker 4: I had it every every every day but Friday, I
coached every single day.
Speaker 2: Friday was your Thursday night must have been blowoff night.
Speaker 5: NOA Friday was Friday was man, I I'm so i
got nothing to do. I'm super pumped.
Speaker 4: I'm going to do something and then like you know,
you get home and you're just like yeah.
Speaker 3: It breaks up a little bit this year fro him.
So he's not doubled hitting coaching two teams. It's a
break for about three months now for high school.
Speaker 2: He's where does the love of hockey come from? You
grew up in Buffalo. You're a Savers fan.
Speaker 4: I am a Savers fan, unfortunately, but yes, my my
youngest oldest, my youngest older brother started playing. So I
just grew up in an ice rink right my first
few years, right before I started playing. I mean I
just grew up in the ice rink, so like I
was just there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: He played on like three teams, so I mean I
was just there all the time. And then I wanted
to start playing, right, so I started picked it up
and played and I loved it. I mean, I just
but it's it's it's it's a love of sports. Like
I've just always loved the competition. I'm I'm still that way.
Like I try and tell my son all the time.
I'm like, I just like I want I just enjoy competing, right,
you know what I mean? Like I I tell him,
I'm like, I'm terrible at bowling, but if I'm at
the bowling alley with my buddy, like I'll bet him
on a game. And I'm like when I when I
line up at the lane, like I feel like I'm
the greatest bowler in the world, Like I'm convinced I'm
going to win.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But his brother coaches a girls too. Have you
beaten Tommy yet?
Speaker 4: No? His my brother's team right now is like top
five in the country. Really, yeah, so he he's coaching
well Buffalo, Buffalo's hockey market is much bigger than Rochester,
just way way bigger. And is that where he's coaching?
Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. He coaches out of Buffalo.
He started coaching the junior Sabers. They just added the
girls teams this year. So hockey and Buffalo's like a
whole different animal. And then and you go to Canada
and it's a whole different animal than it is. And
you never played, no any interest in playing as a kid.
Speaker 7: I want to my father, No, it's too expensive.
Speaker 2: Nope, Well it's expensive as and a lot of time commitment.
Speaker 8: I mean, and you'd be getting up at five am
going to practice a half hour away. Yeah. So I
grew up in Silver Creek, so it'll be like going
to steel Hall at six o'clock in the morning for practice, yeah,
or whatever, or.
Speaker 7: Nine o'clock at night.
Speaker 8: My father used to work in a steel playing Dunkirk, and
he was like, yeah, I hear my peers bitching about
their kids.
Speaker 7: You're not playing hockey.
Speaker 8: Little league is free. I pay like you pay twenty bucks.
You sell thirty dollars worth of candy. You're good. Yea
hockey it's all self funded.
Speaker 2: It was hockey is Yeah, it's amazing. But I it's.
Speaker 3: It's no more expensive than anything else at this point.
I mean dance, travel, soccer, travel, baseball.
Speaker 2: The sports are today.
Speaker 8: Well, it's more expensive than doing nothing.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you.
Speaker 5: Still got a five another places she got to buy
to do nothing.
Speaker 4: But Kevin's right, I mean sports have gotten that way
that like enough people have seen I hate to say
it this way, but they've seen dollar signs in it, right,
and they know people will pay just about anything for
their kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I've heard of I've had a
discussion with a father of young guys, like I'm saying
somewhere between nine to seven nine, maybe a little bit younger,
and that there's like an elite team, and you want
to get your kid on the elite team, and the
elite team costs more money. So it's not like the
kids better to get on the elite team. It's almost
like you've got deeper pockets to exactly pay it. And
that seems a little disingenuous to me. Now, maybe they're
better coaches, I don't know, but just at the face value,
I would be a little well before I pulled the
trigger on that.
Speaker 5: You hear all the.
Speaker 4: Time the you know, a there's politics and sports, and
there's a certain part of it. Like I I've always
tried to I tell the parents all the time, like
I will be as honest as I possibly can, you
know what I mean? Like I do, Like I think
a coach's job is to put a kid in their
best in the best situation for them to succeed, right,
and that means a lot of things, right, Like there's
I mean again, not every kid has the same ability level,
and some parents don't want to recognize that. Some of
them can't seem to recognize it, but it makes a
big difference. Like here's a quick example of a few
years ago, my one son's baseball team. Uh, you know,
someone had said something to the coach like is every
kid going to get to play the infield right? Or
get to play like shortstop or something? And you know, realistically,
I mean he was kind of like, you know, how
do you.
Speaker 2: Say it right? Like not every kid's cut out to
be there, right.
Speaker 4: So the one game he did, he actually he puts
some kids that have never played out.
Speaker 2: There and it showed a show.
Speaker 4: I mean there were there were like in addition to
you know, the errors, it's also I mean there's a
safe concern too, like if you can't if you're not
a great fielder and you're gonna be fielding rocket off you.
Speaker 5: Know, ground balls at eleven.
Speaker 2: You're gonna crack that orbiting around your eye.
Speaker 5: Sure, And to be honest, I felt bad. I mean
I I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't coach the baseball like I I've helped out,
but I kind of it's like my my time off
because hockey season's over. But like I felt bad because
I'm like, this kid was put in a spot that he, like.
Speaker 2: We all knew he wasn't going to succeed.
Speaker 5: There, right, but like you know, everyone wanted equal and
I was.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's stuff like that that you're kind
of like, that's it's it's difficult to balance all of
that as a as a coach, right well, and I
have to kind of consider it all.
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in, uh one of the things
in today's world, with the constant diet of social media,
that you're never putting that genie back in the bottle.
So the only thing you can really do to help
your kid out is build self esteem. And I think
self esteem is not hey Johnny, you're great, Hey you're
so good, You're no. It's when they get a good grade. Man,
how good did that feel. Let's do that again and
build it up and so you get the confidence that
you can And I think sports is a great thing
for that, but not if you're in the wrong position
where you're getting blown by and then you hate it
and then you suck and you're down on yourself and
the other kids see it and they're making fun. It
just it could go right into shit. And that's where honestly,
I mean, look, we I always love to look at
the draft class go to pro sports. Coaching matters big time,
and coaching is so much more than just drawing up
the plays. It's knowing the players, being able to read
the players, seeing the kid who's heads down today and
is up normally, and what's going on. And I gotta
think it's I've never done it, but I'm thinking it's
so much more. And I always look at you know,
Josh Allen comes out and we hear about Josh Allen's
not accurate. We picked the wrong Josh. We did all
this stuff. Sam Donald so much better. He went Sam
Donald's on his fourth or fifteen. Yeah. Now grand granted
he's in an assistant that seems to fit him right now.
But coaching is so important. It's just so important. Yeah,
at every level.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you see stuff like I mean, there's
times and it's hard because we were talking about this
on the way here, a little bit where people will
pick an example of something and be like, well look
at look at it, Aaron. You can always find that
one example, right, But like you know, so there's situations
where you're like they'll they'll change coaches and nothing switches.
But then you see something like like the Chargers this year.
You know, yes, all of a sudden, Jim Hard everywhere
that guy goes, they win and they.
Speaker 5: Turn it around. So that's interesting, turn it around so fast.
Speaker 2: Harbaugh seems to be a guy that boy he brings
him in, like they buy into him, they like him.
He was talking about guys he you know, I think
he was on one of them. Might have been CBS
NFL today, I don't know, it was last week, and
you go, I love that guy.
Speaker 5: I love that guy.
Speaker 2: But and then he's like, well, I love all the
guys a lot, but these guys they'll run through walls
for him.
Speaker 4: It seems like, yeah, I mean you you need that
kind of buy in, right, And I thought this was
gonna be a big challenge for him, right, Like he's
he took over a team that for the last I
don't know, six seven.
Speaker 2: Years, is underperformed for sure, terribly.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean, And I don't I
don't think anybody looks at his team right now and
it is like, Wow, they're just loaded with talent, right, receiver,
running back. They got some okay guys that are coming
off injuries, but I mean they're they're force this year.
Speaker 2: They're really good. The uh it's funny, Danny. I read
an article today about Josh Allen and that they watched
somebody went back and watched the tape. Might have been
Joe Biscagliascalia. He went back and watched the tape and
he said, this was a great game for Josh Allen,
even with the two interceptions. He goes the way this
guy is making reads and processing so quickly, seeing Hollins says,
your fourth option and getting it out that quickly, and
seeing you know where defenses are and being able to
read the defense and how like some of the picks
aren't exactly his fault. I Joe is a Seattle Seahawks fan.
I think that was the first interception. I think, what
does he have three interceptions this season? Yes, that's way
down from you know where he's been and and he
was going through just saying like the processing speed of
Josh Allen is amazing and how he's able to see
things so quickly and read where the defender is and
you know, sometimes put it if a guy doesn't get it.
He doesn't get it. But the pick in Seattle was
Amari Cooper slipped.
Speaker 8: He slipped, right, yeah, And the second pick was a deflection.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, yeah, there's.
Speaker 2: Going Without Josh Allen. That team is nothing.
Speaker 8: Well they're nothing, there's nothing. The thing about Josh Allen
is that his stats, his numbers aren't that good this year. Right,
that's not saying but that's not the point. The point
is that he's playing more like Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 7: In other words, all right, you're gonna okay, okay, I'm
just gonna like Dink and.
Speaker 8: Dunkey to death, and then when I have to, I'll
beat you with my legs and I'll beat you with
a bullet pass.
Speaker 7: You know, he's saving his arsenal.
Speaker 8: He's not like, all right, I'm going out out pass
and that's what he used to do. Right.
Speaker 2: But I think that Joe, I think that's coaching. I
really do. For sure. They had that game. I forget
who it was earlier in the year.
Speaker 4: Oh my Miami, Like he threw the ball like fifteen
or eighteen times or something. But it's like, yeah, if
they're not going to stop the.
Speaker 8: Run, they had a lot of short fields to work
with because like two a game in the ball four
times that helps, so he didn't.
Speaker 7: Have to work as hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: But then there's a game last year where against the
Dallas right, okay, big matchup, four o'clock, right, and they
just ran all over Dallas. He goes, Yeah, I feel
like the guy at the showed up at the project
we got today.
Speaker 7: He didn't do anything. Yeah, you didn't have to, but
that's what you want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that is good coaching, though, Yeah, you know
what I mean. I think, I mean pertunately he's a
Patriots fan, but I think Belichick. Belichick was always great
at that.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, I think once you get that confidence in
the coach, who I mean, a smart coach is harder
on the team when they win and not as hard
when they lose. Or at least that's what I've read. Again,
I always want to say I've never done it, so yeah,
you know, but I it is some things when you
look at it and you watch, even with the Bills,
it's like you've built that confidence in that guy that
even when there is a pick, head's not down looking
at the tablet to see what went wrong. But very
much in the moment of what's happening right now.
Speaker 4: And I think it's it's knowing the guy right, knowing
the guy, knowing the kids. I mean, you know, kids,
kids come from you know, obviously all different backgrounds, family settings,
and like, you know, there's some kids that you can
you know, their dad's.
Speaker 2: Like you get out of them, you chew them out,
and then there's other.
Speaker 4: Ones that you're just like, you know, you know, you
you learn, like you get on him hard and he's
shutting down. Get it right, So that's you better find
a different method to motivate or try and demonstrate what
you're trying to get them to do. Then just you know,
whatever it is, whether it be yelling or demonstrations on
a board. You know, the last few years, I've tried
to use a bunch of video clips more because I
think kids kids the correct and they're they're a little
more you know, and when I'm drawing it on a
board versus when they get see an actual example of
them or their peers right, they're like, oh, you know,
they get super excited.
Speaker 2: Here's here's Billy coming up and look at what he did,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So I think that and of the visual right.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you're trying to explain it to him in the
middle of a game, and you know, you got all
sorts of things going on, and you got the board
and you're trying to demonstrate and they just came off
the ice.
Speaker 2: So they're huffing and puffing, and.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how much is this kid really zoned in
on what I'm trying to one message you're trying to
get through.
Speaker 2: You know how important at that age are things like diet.
I mean, I got to think it's pretty important, but
I don't know how you how you rein it in.
Speaker 7: Only one bull of cocoa puffs the kids.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna tell you this. So I have a
fourteen year old son. He uh is around somewhere. He
went so the other day very well could be so
I have been doing some substitute teaching during the day
just with him living with me. I went, oh boy,
I got my grocery bill wet by this bill web.
I was like, what so I instead of putting more
pressure here, I'll take I'll do this. I got the time,
so I I but I can't get to him right.
So he comes here and they let him into the studio.
But yesterday was the dollar store, and here comes a
boatload of candy, boatload, and within a half hour, the watermelon, gummies,
the mic and ikes, the bag of Cheetos and something
else are devoured, like devoured. And the kid is six
foot one, he's fourteen years old. We go home and
he's like, oh, I'm really tired. Yeah, you crashed you,
you know what I mean. And it's one of these
things where I don't want to be up your ass
and I'm not with you, but I gotta find a
way to try to steer you. I always say, at
this age, I'd rather be a matador instead of yelling
at you, like God, damn it, why you're eating all
the candy. Of course you go crash like my parents
would have done. It's more like, hey man, why don't
we come over here. Bet you feel a little bit better?
Try this, Try that. That's sort of my method because
it seems to be what works better with youth today.
I don't know, and.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's it's tough because as kids, right like,
they don't necessarily think whatever tastes good, correct, I mean,
I get I get on my son about similar type stuff.
Speaker 5: The bigger. The bigger reason I tell.
Speaker 4: Him I'm getting on him is because I'm like, he's,
like I said, he's active, Tyler super active.
Speaker 5: I mean, these kids are running around, they burn off all.
Speaker 4: Yes, sure, but I'm like, you're also setting yourself up
for some bad habits.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I mean there'll be a time when you're
sitting and it's not running, correct, or you just don't
burn an office, That's what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like the last couple of months, I mean, Kevin will
I'll tell you I've I've actually lost a bunch of weight,
like a lot of weight.
Speaker 5: But I mean I went through three or four years
of just no, no, I actually know you.
Speaker 2: Weren't because that would have come out of round. That's
like I could say that.
Speaker 3: No, I told you how he lost part of the weight. No, yeah,
I told you he had an app but he was
betting on himself.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Oh I love this app. But keep going,
Well I.
Speaker 4: Did I did the app first, like I don't know,
maybe eight or ten years.
Speaker 2: Ago, right, and wait to have the app. Then it
was a while ago. Yeah, so I did it.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was last maybe it was six, I don't know.
I put I wanted to lose weight. Yeah, so I
put this five six hundred dollars bet on how much,
So you have to pick how much you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna lose and what time frame, right, Yeah, but.
Speaker 5: There's limitations, right. They don't want people like starving themselves, right,
so it's unhealthy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So I think I put like thirty pounds in like
or thirty five pounds in like.
Speaker 2: Six months. Okay, all right, so that's a little healthier. Yeah,
because Danny did a different diet.
Speaker 7: Structure thirty pounds of seven weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So so for me it's not it's not hard
to lose weight.
Speaker 2: By the way, we all bet against Danny and he
proved us all wrong.
Speaker 4: Yes, I would have bet on you, right. So I
lost like thirty pounds in like a month and a half.
Speaker 5: Like it was just off. All I did was eat
better and exercise more, right. But when I did it
with the app, I kind of once I got there,
I was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh I won.
Speaker 4: Now I got to like maintain it, right, So I
maintained it, got my payout, which I was excited about,
and then I kind.
Speaker 5: Of just let all the habits start to slip.
Speaker 4: Right, And then I went through like three or four
years with just just super bad, terrible habits, right, and
I put it all back on and I, uh, you know,
I went to the doctor, which I hadn't been for
a while, and like I got some really bad blood
work and I was like, I got I gotta change this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do because you want to be around correct
and yeah.
Speaker 4: So I was like, well, it's time to do it again.
And then there's a part of me that's like I
should place the bet again, right because they emailed me
all the time to do it. But I'm like, no,
I'm not, we need another bet. But I was like,
I'm not doing the bet this time. I got to
do it because I want to do it, you know
what I mean. And it was the same thing. I
was a little nervous because I'm older, and I'm like
what if what if I can't lose the weight the
way I'm supposed to, you know, And he wanted to
put me on a medicine and I was.
Speaker 5: Like, I'm not, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and just do it, which I did
and then the weight came right off again. But I
try and tell my my son, right, because I was
pretty honest with my kids, right because now all of
a sudden, Dad's always.
Speaker 5: Making them like giant pizzas. We're doing all this.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not going to be doing that anymore, right,
not nearly as much. So like for my son, I'm like, man,
you know, like I don't want you to have these
same type of habits.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that that I had right.
Speaker 2: Like eating eating late at night, you know what I mean,
that's a bad one for me. It's a terrible one
for me.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's like, uh, it's like an addiction, right, Well,
you're not even like hungry, Like I'll be sitting there.
Speaker 5: I'm like I want someone to eat them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or sometimes I'm tired, so in order to keep going,
crackers and cheese, you know, bread more chips, whatever's easy
and quick. And I put on a tunnel weight I've been.
I'm really on myself, same thing quietly to just try
to let's get this back down. Yeah, I'm up record
high for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like I said, it worked for me, thankfully.
I dropped.
Speaker 2: I dropped a ton.
Speaker 5: I just went back like two weeks.
Speaker 2: What's the betting app? I remember seeing this on TV
last year around New Year's and it was where you
would put down money on yourself like you did yea
and the same type of thing. And I forget the
names of the app. I had never seen it until
honestly last year, but they started doing ads on TV.
I'm sure the app was around well before that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll have to I'll look in between sections.
I could see if I can find it, because they
do send me emails. But like I had to weigh myself.
You have to weigh yourself and video it and like
do it like a full like spin around thing so
they can, you know, see it, and then it gets
verified and then you have to do the same thing.
Speaker 2: So when you bet, do they double the bet? What's
the total amount you win?
Speaker 5: I think I think mine was a little bit more
than double.
Speaker 2: A little more double. So if you put six hundred
euro up to around fourteen yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Something something like.
Speaker 4: But it varies depending on your degree of how much
you're going to lose and I guess how fast. So
when you lost your weight, what was it? Just diet
and exercise?
Speaker 8: Yeah, there wasn't even exercise. It was a special strict diet.
Speaker 4: See I don't I don't do the diet thing. I
mean like I just I just eat way less.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I eat way better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then I just started exercising again, which is I mean,
I got this giinalytical in my basement. I'm just like,
there's no reason why I can't get on it becomes
forty minutes a day, right, Like at twenty minute sections,
I do it. Sometimes I get on there three times,
but I'm like, there's no reason, like if I'm sitting there,
sitting down when the kids go to bed to watch
a hockey game, Like, how hard is it for twenty minutes?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I wasn't doing it, so it's obviously hard
enough that I didn't do it for a long time.
Speaker 3: I would love to sell the stance on that app though,
as to how many, how many are so, and how
many lose their money.
Speaker 2: I bet you that it would be slightly higher because
you got skin in the game of people winning. I'm
sure there's losers, but I would think it's only because
you're you're invested in. Do they email you throughout or
put reminders in? Hey, no, I don't. I don't remember
them doing that.
Speaker 4: I know there was there was two different types. There
was one where you it's just like a singular bet.
And then there's other ones where there was like a
I think a big prize pool, like like you can
join that with other people and like if you're successful,
like you get a piece of.
Speaker 2: It, you know what I mean? Okay, parlay.
Speaker 5: Lower blood lower your blood sugar.
Speaker 4: When when I did it, I think I did it
with I had like two or three other guys that
I had skated with.
Speaker 2: That were.
Speaker 4: That that I got to do it with me and
the one guy I think he bowed out in like
a week, and then the other guy got He was
pretty close, but then like the last week he started
like like UFC weight cutting because it was close, like
he was really close, and he was like I remember
he told me, He's like I probably was not doing
healthy things, you know what I mean. Yeah, like just
not eating and like sweating it all out just to
get that video of him weighing in.
Speaker 5: But you didn't joint add any exercise.
Speaker 8: Into it or just no, they recommended that you didn't
do any exercise because like your body was so you're
only down to like nine hundred calories a day. So yeah,
and the third of them had to be healthy fats
and oils so it was health fat.
Speaker 7: So what happened was you're only really eating six hundred
calories a day.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so it was I don't want to say it
was a starvation diet, but I mean it was along
those line. They gave you like vitamins and drops to
take and all this other stuff.
Speaker 7: But for thirty days, this is all you ate.
Speaker 5: I saw something. I saw something.
Speaker 4: Kevin James was on like I think the Rogan Podcast,
and he said he said he went like like forty
one days without eating. What Yeah, and then and then
Russell o'coone, you used the offensive lineman. I think he
he went like forty two or something without eating.
Speaker 7: So just water water, right, or or mint?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He said something about the salts, which I didn't know.
I was just like that, that's crazy, Like I said,
I cut down a bunch and I eat way just
wait wait.
Speaker 2: Kevin James was funny without the fat.
Speaker 4: I I I tell my friends all the time that
fat Choe was a lot more fun than.
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll take a moment. Uh when we come back.
There's a game in Buffalo. I don't know if you're
aware of it. This weekend CBS is coming and the
whole thing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I heard about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor will be there.
Speaker 7: Oh wow, no kidding.
Speaker 2: He's got our concert in Toronto Friday and Saturday. I
heard in their season. Huh, the Buffalo season are open
in their season.
Speaker 7: So the World Championship a little of that.
Speaker 4: But Kevin said he's gonna get his, uh, his family
some tickets to that Telor concert.
Speaker 2: I think, right, yeah, is that what you're gonna do? Absolutely,
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I remember hockey games right here in my stage. That's
all the people games.
Speaker 7: On their local hockey teams.
Speaker 2: This is a song by a band called the Samboni's
and it's called Bob Marley and the Hartford Whalers.
Speaker 8: They weave the brass Bonanza into the Sun. That's the
hart for Whalers fame song.
Speaker 7: They used to play in a mall. They had a
rig of a mall.
Speaker 8: They actually that's why they eventually, uh pulled up steaks
and left there.
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, I left out there, it is. That's funny.
Speaker 7: Uh did they go to Arizona?
Speaker 2: No, Carolina?
Speaker 8: Well, that's right, that was to Carolina.
Speaker 2: Okay, what was the name of that betting app? If
you want to bet on your weight again? Healthy weight,
healthy wage, healthy wage, healthy wage, healthy fats. We got
all the healthy stuff going on right now.
Speaker 8: I saw I saw a guy talk on radio, guy
talking about having low tea today and how this company
came and tested out his testosterone, like did a blood
test and now how you could like get testosterone therapy
and stuff like that. But it's like, oh, he's he's
talking about having low tea. I'm like, I would never
admit that even if I had it. I don't know
it's because leading an endorsement or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I also know the.
Speaker 8: Guys have I'm like that might be part of the problem.
Pro I love you, but eat your meat.
Speaker 2: Need some meat? Yeah, you gotta you gotta uh you
got to exercise, to exercise increases your test? Yeah, you
got some low. What does this exercise you speak of? Well, uh,
I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's funny, you know what I just bought.
Speaker 8: I just bought like for like when I'm working, one
of those pedals that you put on the floor. You
just pedal along while you're working. I'm serious.
Speaker 2: I see that on I see that on like on
our news. Yes, well good, I can't wait to see
because and it's all old people in the commercial. Okay,
I want to see how.
Speaker 7: Like like like sitting is the new smoking, they say.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true. No, I would think
that it's damn close.
Speaker 8: You know. I mean, we weren't made to just sit
on our butts all day like God did on the sticks. Okay,
you guys are all gonna have office jobs, right, We're
gonna file paperwork and be on computers. Now we're out
hunting and doing stuff. And now that's changed in America.
We're getting we're getting sloppy.
Speaker 7: So I decided to stay active while I'm working. Best
of both worlds?
Speaker 5: Does it register?
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 8: Your distance?
Speaker 7: You know, your calories?
Speaker 8: Although I think the calories are a little off.
Speaker 2: Can you get pressure on that? Like what kind of
You can't sit in the chair with wheels because you'd
be pushing yourself.
Speaker 8: Oh no, that's that's the cool thing about it. So
they got the strap right, so you're strapped in.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 8: You put the strap underneath the pedal board and then
you wrap it around the back of the chair. So now,
no matter how hard like your Fred Flint's, don't you
you can't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: Did you get the enhanced model that has the quiet
the quiet sounds so your your coworkers don't.
Speaker 8: We need a video.
Speaker 2: We need video of this that we can put on
social media to see. Danny's Okay, my wife trying to
last night. You have to strap yourself into you well,
because I'm thinking you would push back, strap the chair
around yourself so it stays with you. Yeah, you're sort
of anchored there.
Speaker 8: My wife tried to last that she was I'm too
short like she well, you could probably the couch. Her
feet can't hit the ground.
Speaker 5: She's too short.
Speaker 2: He's gonna bring it in the start on the show. Okay,
I know what I could do that to see it
when he gets I don't think it works.
Speaker 8: This is too low.
Speaker 4: Can we start a challenge and see how many steps
he can get in in one day?
Speaker 5: I mean, if he just does it work the show, I.
Speaker 7: Mean, that's pay in the ass. I've tried going for
like an hour and a half. I'm like, okay, that's enough.
Speaker 2: You know about how far is you getting an hour
and a half.
Speaker 7: I don't know what the distance was now.
Speaker 2: If I do it halfway to Syracuse, if I do
his spin class in an hour, you're around fifteen miles
sixteen miles from me. That doesn't mean that I don't know.
So some people could be doing double triple then I
have no idea. But I don't think.
Speaker 8: They're not like bike pedals. They're not as wide of
a pedal. It's almost like an elliptical. Yeah you just
put it's like a much shorter strides. But you're still
doing Oh yeah, I mean you're moving right exactly. That's
the idea.
Speaker 7: It's a shivering.
Speaker 8: Where did you get digiting will actually help you lose weight?
Believe it or not?
Speaker 2: Where did you get this from?
Speaker 8: I got an Amazon. It's real cheap.
Speaker 7: I had to put together myself.
Speaker 8: Because the other one's like worth over one hundred dollars,
and my wife sees it, she goes, oh, I was
gonna get you that for so I'll just scratch that
off the listener.
Speaker 7: I'm taking care of myself now.
Speaker 8: It's not gonna help me at Christmas.
Speaker 7: I need help now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a holiday between they're called Thanksgiving and
we eat lot.
Speaker 7: I got to burn. I got a budget of my calories.
Speaker 3: Research indicates that, on average, participants burned forty six hundred
calories and a forty minute workout in a spin class.
The distance depends on cadence. However, estimated average forty minute
class in the caidence of eighty to one hundred and
ten rpm is the equivalent to fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 2: Miles on the road. Yeah, so you're right in that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're average spin classes knows that you're going uphill, downhill,
you're doing all like this.
Speaker 9: You're just like, yeah, you go, well, yeah, but it's movement.
It's not bad gets the clots, you know, the funny
the funny thing. My leg with her my aunt with
her bad leg, just bought one of those two. Did
she really shut up on Amazon?
Speaker 2: That's great? Well, I can't wait I want video. I
think we should do the whole thing following Dan. I
think it'd be great. All right, it's exercise, right, exercise
those look Jimmy Kimmel lost a ton of weight from
a walking desk. It was a treadmill on a you
know desk.
Speaker 7: I have one of those two. What the problem is
that it's very hard to like, you know, like what
you what.
Speaker 2: You should do?
Speaker 3: It is the next track your mileage and taking take
roote sixty six and see how long it teach you
to get route sixty six.
Speaker 5: One of my teachers from high school does that on
a treadmill challenge.
Speaker 2: Really, he walks.
Speaker 3: He's walked from Maine to tip of California on the
Appalachian Trail.
Speaker 2: What a great teaching tool with kids like this.
Speaker 3: It just gives him, you know, shows what he's doing
and you know, giving him a sense of.
Speaker 2: Getting I'm gonna get myself back and say I'm getting sexy,
get ripped. It's gonna be danting, motivated, dandy real quick.
And we'll let Joe Way into and I don't know
if Kevin has thoughts on this game or not, but
the Chiefs and the Bills, this is for pretty much
all the marbles. And it was interesting because I think
I am guilty of saying that the Kansas City Chiefs
are a very lucky team because they blocked the punt
and all that stuff. And then I got a video
sent to me from one Greg Connors, and it was
Pat McAfee breaking down the special stance and how bad
it was on this one guy, and he goes, it's.
Speaker 8: Terrible, specifically told us not to share it with you.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not lucky. I didn't come.
That's gonna help Kevin burd calories. By the way, he's
gonna get so mad. It's just gonna start. I'm I
didn't come on.
Speaker 5: Stop he's out.
Speaker 2: So he but he was saying like they're so good
at the little things, like they practiced the little things,
and they could see this guy's footwork is stance. His
head's still down.
Speaker 7: They knew exactly what to attack on the city.
Speaker 2: Knew exactly when to attack on the field goal, and
they practice those fine tune things. Fundamentals not to bring
up well, but even fine like that's that's really fine
tuned stuff.
Speaker 3: And it's the Belichick coach. You have to pick up
a star subject. That's what they practiced. That interception they
had that in there, ranted all week in the Super
Bowl when they picked off Russell Wilson, they practiced that
said that was gonna come up sometime during the game.
Speaker 4: But I mean, Balichuck's done a number of times where
he'll find some specific thing that's they're just waiting for, right,
whether it be.
Speaker 2: A rule, like a loophole on the rules, or.
Speaker 5: Something that a team does.
Speaker 3: He was the one having linebackers jump the line on
blocking field was jumping over the line to get in
there and block it until they outlawed that.
Speaker 8: Then he then last year before he got fired, he
ran a special teams play where he had ten guys
on the line to block the field goal. One guy
running in motion, getting a head start, and he takes
it off and blocks the field goal.
Speaker 2: You know, it's yeah, I mean, it's amazing what you
can pick up. But that's a lot of study, but
I mean, well of experience. I mean, you're talking Andy
Reid with the Chiefs, right, So this is there's so
much he needs your he needs your pedal, sit and pedal.
What do they call it.
Speaker 8: Is the called get one of those.
Speaker 2: But there's I mean, there's so much video.
Speaker 3: I mean there's so many different football teams from high
school to the pros where somebody's always running something that
may work.
Speaker 2: Yes, a different live situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's you know, it's not like it's just
a matter of who do you know and what film
are you watching?
Speaker 2: Well that and I do think that the coaching on
those fundamentals were those little things like hey, look for this,
get the head up, blocking, knowing when to jump, all
that stuff is is critical. And I got to tell you,
I think everybody, if you, if we all could have
a coach in just life, you'd be better. Yeah, well
you can't try it. Exercise exercise with a coach, then
exercise without a coach.
Speaker 4: It's like I think, I think if I think if
the Bills end up losing this weekend, it's probably be
going to be because of coaching. Like I really think
I've made this argument before. I think coaching, if we're
looking at a football perspective, I think obviously talent matters, yes,
what coaching matters to right, And And for me, I've
said this and people get on me. Belichick is a
great coach. I'm never going to take that away. Ninety
nine percent of his major success was with Tom Brady.
Andy Reid, I've made this argument. I'm more impressed with
what he has done over the years. He's done with
multiple quarterbacks in multiple cities and he's always successful. Yeah,
I mean, it's it's pretty incredible. That was my big
thing when the Broncos went after Sean Payton, right like
Sean Payton was he had Drew Brees in New Orleans.
I think there's a lot of people that could have
been successful with Drew Brees. Not everybody, but a lot
of people. And then as soon his breeze retired, he's
kind of like, I'm out, Yeah, Like this isn't going
so well. I'm gonna take a break, like what you know,
So I don't know it'll be I think Andy Reid's
one of the best, if not the best, coach.
Speaker 2: Since you bring it up, talk to me about Russell Wilson,
super Bowl winner in Seattle, certainly got an astronomical contract.
When he went to Denver, things didn't go as well.
And now we're starting to see some of the flashes
of the old Russell in a Steelers uniform, the moon
ball as they call it, but it's a beautiful pass.
It drops right in the bread basket. I don't know what,
you know.
Speaker 4: I think that first year in Denver, I think I
think everything was just off. I think his attitude that
he he brings up a little bit of you know,
like he had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's bigger than the team.
Speaker 8: That was the whole thing. I'm Russell Wilson and I'm
here to save you. Yeah, a franchise that's won super
Bowls the past.
Speaker 4: But even his last year in Denver under Peyton, his
his numbers weren't bad.
Speaker 8: No, they weren't.
Speaker 4: They really like he That first year it was just
a complete and total train wreck. And to be honest,
he looked, he didn't look good, and I was like, man,
maybe maybe he is washed right. Yeah, But the next
year with with Peyton, his his numbers were okay. I mean,
the team wasn't great, but his numbers were okay. And
he's looked as much as I I really really don't
like the Steelers. But a couple of games he's played,
I I usually I watch a lot of.
Speaker 2: Fun I think he's I think there's there's two undefeated
quarterbacks right now in the NFL. One of them is
Patrick Mahomes at nine and zero, and I think the
other one is Russell Wilson.
Speaker 8: There's a lot of controversy on whether or not Mike Tomlin,
who's gotten a lot of flack over the years.
Speaker 7: The guys are all of the coach.
Speaker 8: He's never had a sub five hundred season in Pittsburgh, never,
And he brings in Russell is No, I'm gonna start
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7: Oh, you're not going to start the other kid?
Speaker 2: Uh Fields?
Speaker 8: Yeah, justin Fields he's winning. No, No, I'm going to
start my guy because Russell Wilson. I mean, the guy's
been humble. He wasn't gonna come to Pittsburgh. No, it'd
be the man.
Speaker 7: He's like, hey, look, you're on a one year proven deal.
Can you do it? And he's like okay.
Speaker 8: So he's making like the league minimum, becase he's still
getting paid by Denver. He's making the league minimum right now.
And he has actually played good football. I mean, they
brought in Mike Williams and Jets get rid of him.
He comes to he he walks into uh into Pittsburgh.
He catches the game winning touchdown against Washington. So they're
playing well.
Speaker 4: I think people forget too that you don't you know,
we don't see.
Speaker 5: What goes on day to day.
Speaker 4: And I think a good coach and Tomlin is a
good coach and I respect him a lot because, like
you said, they always win. I think he recognized, like, yeah,
we're six and two, but we're more We're six and two.
Speaker 5: Mostly because of our defense.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, like Fields is making a couple of plays
on his feet and I mean Field's only had like
seven touchdown passes in six games.
Speaker 2: That's not good. You may be winning, but yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 8: It was the defense Pittsburgh pits. You could argue that
Pittsburgh S or the Chargers or the Chiefs have the
best defense in the NFL, and you put the Bills
in that category too.
Speaker 7: In the second half.
Speaker 8: Both of those teams have only allowed one touchdown in
the second half of every game all season on average.
You know, that's pretty it's pretty good. That's pretty good.
It's interesting though, with this game coming up. I like
the Chiefs. What I like the Chiefs? Oh, here's why,
I mean, I mean.
Speaker 2: I hate it.
Speaker 7: I help them wrong.
Speaker 2: Well, see what's happening with my heart?
Speaker 7: That means you trust my judgment.
Speaker 2: No, I don't like the answer because.
Speaker 7: You don't like the answer because you think I might
be right. Do you trust my judgment? Well, yeah, I
hate it too. I don't like being right all the
time either.
Speaker 8: But here, so my friend Jeff Shedia from NFL Network
texts me this. I used to have them on my
show when I had a show, and he goes, if
the Bills don't have Cooper.
Speaker 7: Coleman and k we know they won't have Coleman.
Speaker 8: He goes, this will be the third team Kansas City
has face that was down at least three key receivers,
forty nine ers and bucks for the other's crazy.
Speaker 7: I'm like, holy cal he's right. So that plays into
I hope he is.
Speaker 8: He didn't. I mean today they did a walk through
and he was limited a walkthrough today. Okay, okay, Now
the thing you have to consider, though it plays into
your theory.
Speaker 7: The Kansas City has been.
Speaker 8: A little bit luckier than good because, let I mean,
they face some pretty good teams, but they face them
without their full arsenal of weapons.
Speaker 7: But that's the NFL.
Speaker 8: Here's the other thing this game that everyone's gearing up
for like it's like, you know, it's the end of
the world. Okay, if the Bills win this game, okay,
now you still have two losses. Kansas City only has one.
Kansas City would have to lose another game and the
Bills would have to win out for the Bills to
get home field advantage because if they love one more,
now they got to take a backseat to Baltimore who
beat him earlier this season. If the Bills lose on Sunday,
well you know they're going to win the division. So
now it's a matter of Okay, the second game, odds
are you're playing on the road.
Speaker 7: So that's what this game is about.
Speaker 8: This game is not a I mean, they'd have to
go over the lot implications. There are some implications, but
it's not as like, I mean, it's win and then
hope that Kansas City screws up the rest of the
year and so does Baltimore and that you win out all.
By the way, you still have to play the Niners,
the Giants, and the Chargers who are pretty freaking good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're asking a lot.
Speaker 8: So while this game is huge, if they go out
and win, okay, great, you gotta keep winning. You can't
just like, Okay, we're gonna lay an egg against you can't.
Speaker 7: There's no eggs play.
Speaker 2: He didn't mean Chargers, You said you the Giants. In
there three teams that they have to face. Are they
playing the Giants, the Lions, the forty nine Ers and
the Chargers? Say the Giants said Giants.
Speaker 7: I don't know why I said.
Speaker 2: You said the Giants said you were drinking.
Speaker 8: You said, yeah, But the Lions are really good. I
mean five picks on the road Sunday night they won.
I know, but that was that was a bizarre game
that both ways. It was bizarre game.
Speaker 2: There was four picks in the third quarter on between
the two guys playing on twice.
Speaker 8: You do, by the way, divisional rivals aren't like gimmes.
Speaker 7: You gotta play the chests too.
Speaker 2: Is pretty good. You're picking, you're picking the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, Yeah, picking the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: When we go to a guy who's bets on these things.
Speaker 5: Uh, I think I am actually picking the Bills.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, Yeah, I don't. I just.
Speaker 4: Kansas City. Like I said, they're a good team. Their
defense is good. But the Bills defense has been playing
really well. I think I think being at home will help.
And I think I said something to you before about
when the Bills lost stuff, Stefan Diggs, I wasn't that worried.
I just think there's certain quarterbacks that I'm not sure.
I mean, Mahomes has kind of been this too. I'm
not sure if the weapons matter a ton this weekend
either he's not he's not playing. They said, yeah, that's
a that's that's a big deal. I'm just not sure
how much the weapons matter. I mean, I watch when
I watch Alan with Shakir, Now, I would be really
concerned if Shakir wasn't there like that. Seems they have
a connection that seems like really really impressive.
Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just the Chiefs are. They're catching a ton of
breaks there they are. They make plays, they make plays
when they have to, they do behind the back. But
I I I think I think the Bills. I think
the Bills are just as good as they are. And
I think being at home, I think that the Chiefs
are due.
Speaker 2: For are they one and a half point favorites Buffaloes
one and a half? That's what I mean.
Speaker 8: It fluctuated from two and a half to one and
a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get three points for playing role.
Speaker 8: I mean, even if they have Cooper, right, even if
they have a Mary Cooper or Mark Cooper played one
whole game in Bill's uniform, so I mean, but he
looks good if there Cooper's there, Okay, yeah, okay, but
if you're losing one or two of those guys, now
you rely on Okay, Shakir.
Speaker 2: The Knox Hollis I liked. Hollis had some place, got
sixteen yard first down, third, come.
Speaker 7: On, damn college had a couple of nice plays.
Speaker 2: Collins Hollins Collins Hollins h O l L I N.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he had a couple of josh improofed but those
are improv and he caught the ball fantastic or we should
have done that against Houston he did. But good, it's
getting better.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean, you're you're asking a lot.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 8: By the way, the Bills have this tendency like they've
they've they've praised uh Bobby Babbage, the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 7: For doing this.
Speaker 8: Hey, we're gonna see what the offense and the other
team there for the first half, then we're gonna adjust. Okay,
but they put up like Baltimore. You want to adjust
to the case defense. Yeah, well you're on offense too.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be hard. I mean, I hope the Bills win.
Speaker 2: Kevin.
Speaker 3: The line's currently at two on DraftKings. Okay, Kansasy is
getting to I think for for Danny, for our friend Greg.
I've been pretty consistent and my picks this year of
whoever i'm picking, the other team wins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I.
Speaker 5: Think for for Greg and for Dan, I'm gonna take the.
Speaker 2: Chiefs to cover.
Speaker 8: We'll good.
Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll take a moment. We have a
closest to the pin. We haven't played in a long time.
The reason is o Chino says he wins every time.
Speaker 8: Oh okay, all right.
Speaker 5: Not every time. I think I'm pretty good.
Speaker 2: He's to he's wanting to put money out.
Speaker 7: It's different when you do it into a microphone.
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Speaker 10: Hockey and they're just yelling about hockey.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like half, I'm beam that toune with you tonight,
I know.
Speaker 10: So I see his.
Speaker 2: Story locally that a man is recovering after he inadvertent
he drove into Canadaigua Lake and had to swim to safety.
So I'm going how far the GPS take him? Okay,
A lot of questions here, right because there's a boat
ramp you could go down that. I think he just
went off the dock. Yeah, he's nineteen. At one forty
five in the morning. He had stopped his vehicle on
the pier to rest, is what they say. He stopped
his vehicle on the pier to rest. Well, the pier
that they were showing it looks like it's not even
wide enough for a car. I don't know how you
get out there. I don't know if this is a dare.
It was one twenty five am. Excuse me, I think
I said one forty five, one twenty five on a
Tuesday morning, so I naturally nineteen one twenty five am
car ends up in the lake. I'm thinking drugs are alcohol.
They are saying drugs and alcohol did not have a
factor in the incident.
Speaker 7: Okay, whose kid is? I don't That's my point.
Speaker 5: It's like, did he have some sort of like a
medical emergency?
Speaker 4: Did?
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, okay, all right, all right, now that's something.
Still explain that he stopped on the pier to rest
and drove into the water while making a U turn.
Speaker 5: Can't you hear me? I was like, maybe if he
went to rest and like fell asleep.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I woke up. If you're making a
U turn, you're making a YOU turn like he drove
out there. I gotta think there's more to this story.
There has to be you were fucking around. Maybe you
were stone cold sober, but you and your buddies on
a dare. We're gonna try this. I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know who's probably got information for you off off
the record would probably be our friend across the street
because all.
Speaker 5: Those all those agencies they talk.
Speaker 2: Well, FLCC is right down there right finger like community
college is down along there, and I'm wondering, and they
have dorms. Yeah, so I'm going this is this is
a FLCC kid fucking around. I want to know what happened,
only because I want to laugh at you. But so
he got ticketed for uh driver was ticking for ready
for this moving from a lane unsafely and I think
he has to pay for because they needed like a
craneyn in.
Speaker 5: There pull it out, wait till it's involved.
Speaker 2: The lake. I was wondering what that fine is. There
is got to be any something with the E P
A right or d C E P A d C something.
But what's that so he had.
Speaker 4: The cargoes in. Yes, he gets out and swims. Yeah,
like how far does anyone It was not far from
not far, not far from here to that maybe a
quarter mile.
Speaker 5: Not even that's a lot. The way I saw it.
Speaker 2: Was, it is a lot. You're right, But I mean
it's one of those that that's like just won. Just
one kid was in there, that's what they're saying. So
that takes out of my theory of hey watch this.
Oh I don't know who's waiting on the shore, Joe
that somebody's watching.
Speaker 5: People were running there.
Speaker 2: There's a snapchat somewhere. There's a snapchat somewhere that's got
this kid driving into the lake. Don't you think No,
Danny says, no, I think there is. I think there's
no way. You're not filming at nineteen, you film everything, or.
Speaker 8: I mean the reason is to is to why though,
why would what's the what's the what's the payoff?
Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of college kids that do things with.
Speaker 2: As much payoff. Right now. We just did a whole
thing last night on the door Kick Challenge with Jamison
says is not something and I did. It's called the
door Kick Game where people run up to a door
instead of ding dong ditch, they kicked the door as
hard as they can and then run away. And uh,
it was happening around the country in different spots, and
some guy put a trip wire and this one kid
gets caught in the trip wire and then he comes
out and they go and there was an assault file,
but the video has cut off. So basically, this guy
went out and beats the ship out of the.
Speaker 3: Basically this car he went into the it's kind of
worth though, right, No, that's it's it's like the marina.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, all right, all right, that makes way
more sense. Drove the dock, drove the dock.
Speaker 8: But the part that I mean was he running for
senate in Massachusetts. Is there a pregnant lady in the
car with him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 3: He drove the docks and he just climbed I'm assuming
he just climbed up the dock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the I mean, I think there's there has
to be something. I mean, you know about it.
Speaker 5: By himself, there's no road out there, and by yourself.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's not by himself.
Speaker 5: I'm telling her.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you there's a or or or a snapchat
is what I'm thinking.
Speaker 5: Subs those things driving anything. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: It's true. They'll run forever. I'll give you that. That's
that's a good thing.
Speaker 5: Little water damage, no water damage.
Speaker 4: It'll be it'll be listed on one of those car
sites tomorrow.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh god. Yeah, the carfax stuff is great. But man,
you get a flooded car, that could be some bad stuff.
Usually don't recover from that. No, you you get a
fish in the exhaust.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I'm not a car guy, but I
know a lot of it's electrical.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you know, short electrics. Shronic electronicals was the
short out, that's for sure. Yeah, and especially if I
don't think it was. But an electric car, you know,
try to replace a battery and electric car.
Speaker 3: I want to know, an electric car like in a
flutter anything like that? Are you is it like tossing the
toaster into the bathtub?
Speaker 8: Good question.
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer that. I've never I've never
seen anything to answer that. Oh, like, I've read a
lot about the cars, never saw anything like that. That's
a great question, because you know, I've driven people have teslas.
If they're driving the rain I see what you're saying.
They let the water rise up.
Speaker 5: You got the ev out there. I don't think caral
mind if you pop it into the canal real quick.
Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. They're lowering the water level
right now, so get it out. We got to place
our bets. The one they're going to fire. I was
the guy that was driving. He was part of the crew.
He dropped his daughter off a crew or something, and
he's driving in and he sees the top of a
jeep and he calls nine one one.
Speaker 5: Didn't we have them? We had that story. Yeah, I
don't remember the name.
Speaker 2: I think we had him on and because when they
lowered the level and no one like it was reported missing,
but no one saw until the water went Yeah, the
entry into the canal starts rushing. Yeah, but there's a brush,
so it could have There is a current there. There
is a strong undertow, so I would assume maybe it
pushed the vehicle a little bit. If it landed up
right and it's rolling along, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We gotta we gotta place their bets because they're dropping
it and I think in the next couple weeks.
Speaker 2: What they're gonna find. Oh, yeah, it looked like they
were starting to lower it. Now. The water level looked
a little lower to me. I don't know if they are,
but I usually usual it around now November, Right, they
go to November to uh what is it? There are
certain roads that are closed from November. It isn't the
bridge back open over the bay? Yeah, from now until
April first first, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, the good news is we have kids that are
going to start driving soon. So I tried to explain
to my son. I'm like, that's a great example. That's
why car insurance for uh yeah, Team idiot is so expensive.
Is exactly why statistics and you are part of the problem.
Speaker 2: Just had to renew and it was not pretty. No,
you are part of the problem, not me, not me?
All right?
Speaker 5: Were ready for Kenny Connecticut is the issue? Kenny Connecticut
closest to the pin.
Speaker 2: Now, we haven't played this in a while, No, all right.
Speaker 3: The term EBOG means emergency backup goalians, typically an everyday
individual who has past goaltending experience, and each team is
required to have one in the building for both teams
to use if needed in a game. Really, how many
times since night or since twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2: Has an e bog seen action.
Speaker 5: In an NHL game.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're they're usually.
Speaker 2: So for each So you gotta be like a neutral player,
right because you got to play.
Speaker 3: There was a guy I had a game a couple
of years ago in Toronto, Toronto.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he actually came in, played fantastic.
Speaker 5: Most of the second period, in the whole third period.
Speaker 7: And the visiting team, not the not the league.
Speaker 5: For Carolina, and they beat Toronto, and they beat Toronto
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yes, since twenty sixteen happened? Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Boasting four stages, six bars, which can accommodate up to
almost two thousand people at an estimated cost of twenty
million to build, Kid Rocks big ass honky Tonk Rock
and Roll Steakhouse opened in October of what year?
Speaker 2: And that's the one in the national Take.
Speaker 7: It twice that big twice? Oh yeah, huge.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like strip, it's like three. It
is on the strip three floor. Oh I believe it's four.
What year did it open? What year did it open?
Speaker 7: For? My mistake?
Speaker 2: For uh? Okay, god rock?
Speaker 3: Including live albums? How many albums has John Hyatt released?
Speaker 2: This is so unfair. You better win this one. You
better get this question right. I may not including live album,
including live how many albums has he released?
Speaker 5: Correct?
Speaker 2: Geez, I'm gonna I'm really guessing at this that we're
all in the same boat. By the way, John, have
you ever even heard of John Hyatt? It's chart Joe,
I'm sorry, I have you even heard jen Z? I
know what that's looking.
Speaker 3: Joe is a big Seahawks fan who is constant your
mind and b that Marshawn Lynch should have been given
a handoff at the end of Super Bowl forty nine.
How many wins including a regular season and playoffs through
the Seahawks have all time through Week ten of this season.
Speaker 2: How many wins all time all time.
Speaker 5: Including regular season and playoffs. It's the gut by right here.
This is the one that separates the winners from the losers.
Speaker 2: Wins all time, I don't know all time. It's it's
a hard one because I'm thinking, who was the larger
played for them? Didn't he go into politics?
Speaker 8: Yeah, he became the senator from Oklahoma.
Speaker 5: Including playoffs including playoffs.
Speaker 2: All time. I don't even know what year they came
into the league.
Speaker 8: Seventy seven.
Speaker 7: That's cheating, that's cheating.
Speaker 2: You should not have told me that, mister, Barilla.
Speaker 8: Tampa Bay and Seattle came into the NFL the same
year as expansion teams. Back in those days, they didn't
have an expansion draft.
Speaker 2: They pick the players from scrat they did, so they
whatever left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is why, which is why they weren't very good.
Speaker 8: Sheriff Baxter was like the star.
Speaker 2: All right, I have just put down a ridiculous number.
Speaker 3: Joe was also a Buffalo guy known for formerly liking his.
Speaker 5: Wings and huggy bombs.
Speaker 3: What year was the city of Buffalo incorporated as a city.
Oh yes, Joe'll explain to you what a hugey bomb
is as well.
Speaker 2: You've had him a couple of them.
Speaker 7: They're disgusting.
Speaker 2: They're disgusting at you. Oh, you said they're disgusting.
Speaker 7: I said they're disgusting.
Speaker 2: Ooh.
Speaker 8: If we're thinking about the right the same thing, all right,
Well we'll find out.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think I know the term.
You've had a huggy bomb. I'm sure I did.
Speaker 3: Yes, I have with you, Yes, but I know Billy
Joel was announced for the JMA Wireless Dome in Syracuse
for the eighth time in April. Joe was one of
the first ones to jump in and say we got
to go because it's on his bucket list. How many
times have Billy Joel played MSG between his first show
in nineteen seventy eight and his last one in July
of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: When was the first one? Seventy eight, seventy eight?
Speaker 2: I know it's a terrible kid today. All right, we'll
go back to the top. Okay, back to the time.
Speaker 5: How many questions yet only six closest to the pin?
Speaker 3: How many times has an e Bog got into the
action in an NHL game since twenty sixteen?
Speaker 8: Say four times?
Speaker 2: I said two times?
Speaker 5: I said, I said two?
Speaker 2: It is six ooh six times? All right? What year
did Kid Rock Open, Kid Rocks, Big Ass, honky Tonk
Rock and Roll, Steakhouse? I have no idea? Twenty sixteen,
I said, twenty eighteen. I said, twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen
is in the hole? Race that four? I had to
bring it back to zero. Baby.
Speaker 3: How many albums including live has John Tennessee plates Hyatt?
Speaker 2: Right, I wrote down a number that I was gonna
write down thirty two, and I thought that's way too high.
There's no way, So I wrote sixteen.
Speaker 8: I wrote seventeen, twenty four, twenty six, damn Joe studio,
twenty four studio and.
Speaker 5: Two lives since nineteen seventy four?
Speaker 2: How many was it? Twenty six, twenty six or for you, I've.
Speaker 8: Never heard of them, believe it or not.
Speaker 7: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because he well, that could be.
Speaker 8: That could be.
Speaker 2: I to me know, but uh no, Jeff Heally Well,
jeffly Well, Jeff he Angelized is John Hyatt's song, and
Jeff Heally made it famous right in.
Speaker 7: Roadhouse Skill the Blind Guy won.
Speaker 2: He made it a hit in the eighties. He made
it a hit.
Speaker 3: How many twins all times through Week ten of the
season do the Seahawks have, including regularly got in Joe ways?
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 7: I went three eighty, I said three seventy six.
Speaker 2: I wrote two hundred, four hundred and thirteen. Wow, I
just lost it. Three ninety six in the regular season.
Speaker 5: They've got seventeen in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Wow. So what did you say three eighty? They were
thirty three four thirteen or thirteen from two hundred and
thirteen off. Two hundred and twenty three is my score now,
even with the end of the hole.
Speaker 5: What year was Buffalo incorporated?
Speaker 8: Eighteen oh three?
Speaker 2: I said eighteen sixteen.
Speaker 4: I don't know why, I said eighteen twenty, eighteen thirty two,
eighteen thirty two.
Speaker 3: And how many times is Billy Joel played the Garden
thirty six incorrect?
Speaker 2: I thought he said, I thought that was his hundredth show.
If the go I wrote down one hundred thinking I
thought it was the hundredth show, I might have blow
it hair I said three fifty six.
Speaker 3: Played one hundred and fifty times. One hundred and fifty
one was his last show?
Speaker 10: There?
Speaker 2: Got it all right? Well I lost that's I think
Joe only only lost fifty on that one. So I
only lost fifty on that one. Tonight was eighteen thirty two,
so I was sixteen off there, so sixteen that's nine three.
So I'm two thirty nine plus fifty. Danny's gonna find
a way to win it. Yeah, I think Danny did
win it. I Matt, I'm at two eighty nine. That
was my final score was too eighty nine.
Speaker 3: We'll get We'll give Joe tennout to explain that Danny,
what a huggy bomb is?
Speaker 8: Oh, I got one ninety two.
Speaker 5: Danny one, he got me.
Speaker 2: I had two ten, two ten, I had two eighty nine.
That that's the champion. That is again the Seahawks question.
Seahawks question got me. I wasn't sure on that.
Speaker 7: Is it a huggy bomb?
Speaker 8: One of those little barrels like with like uh, like
the kids fruit juicy for the kids that you peel
off the foil top.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they're disgusting.
Speaker 2: No, you take a sip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then you got to take a sip out
of it or pour it out if you don't want
the sugar water. And then you you fill whatever you
pour out with vokka and then you you just slam
the whole thing.
Speaker 8: Oh gosh. No, never done that.
Speaker 2: So you never did a huggy bomb. No, but you
knew what a huggy but you knew he was. He
knew what a hugg he was. I don't think I
even knew the huggy.
Speaker 3: I think I think he might have done you both
might have done in Sam's graduation party.
Speaker 8: No I didn't. I wouldn't have. I'm better than that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to say it tastes delicious,
but don't get you there.
Speaker 2: There's a bar and Buffalo.
Speaker 4: There's a bar and Buffalo that that would sell them
like a little hole in the wall. Yeah, and we
would just buy buy a whole bunch of them Huggies,
Hoggy bombs, Huggy bombs. Really, then we started to just
do them with, you know, when we were out places.
And now it's kind of incorporated into our little golf tournament.
And I mean, so the remember the one year we
couldn't find the Huggies. Yeah, I had like twelve adults
all over are looking.
Speaker 2: I can't. I don't think I was then so anywhere anymore?
Did they Dollar storej Walmart?
Speaker 3: The Dollar Store as they saw him by three packs
of the dollar store?
Speaker 5: Really, Brady likes the lemonade.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 8: Being from Buffalo, you're accustomed to chivetts chicken, Okay, I
like and Logan Berry love Loganberry. They serving Bill Gray's
actually logan Berry juice juice.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I know so good I went.
Speaker 4: I remember I was in college and my my one
of my sweet mates, was like, what what's this? I said,
what are you talking about? It's Logan Berry's from Albany. Yeah, Logan,
I thought it was like every place.
Speaker 8: No, I thought, so too.
Speaker 2: Have you had of No, I don't think I have
had Logan Berry. I thought it was like a new
flavor of beer.
Speaker 5: And Joe and Joe and Joe's Chubb your days.
Speaker 3: You can Gadi a pizza place in Buffalo too, and
he could tell you that.
Speaker 4: Oh, and he could still tell you if it's good
or pretty good. Santa I don't mind the Santauras. And
I Buffalo Imperial.
Speaker 2: All the time.
Speaker 7: You know, it's got great pizza.
Speaker 8: It ain't got Maria's.
Speaker 5: I've never had that.
Speaker 7: Oh it's excellent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what makes it excellent?
Speaker 2: Describe it?
Speaker 7: It's just it's the it's the crust, the sauce, everything.
Speaker 4: Listen, Buffalo when it comes to food, and that's Buffalo's.
Speaker 8: Like my boss owns an Airbnb and we used to
work in the off The back office was the airbing
was the Airbnb on the other side of the office.
Speaker 7: So he'd have people come up from the.
Speaker 8: South and then he's Alabama bumper stickers and like they're
Alabama fans, So I go.
Speaker 2: Hey, where's a good place to get Buffalo wings? Around
here in pizza, I go anywhere, you kidding, No, I
go anywhere for what they're used to. Yeah, and just
pick I go there.
Speaker 7: I go across the street and go to the restaurant
over here. You go over here, you know you have
to go to drive the anchor bar. You can just
do it here.
Speaker 2: That's uh that yeah, that is true. That is true.
Jameson lived in the South and hated.
Speaker 8: It's amazing how bad the pizza is outside Western New
York saved New York City.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, you can get some good stuff down the
East Coast a little bit sometimes in Florida, but overall
you're absolutely right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean they don't even have transplants.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And half the time it's like they like Buffalo. There's
hundreds of pizza places, local pizza places.
Speaker 5: Not like Domino's.
Speaker 2: Right, I like that better the local Yeah yeah, yeah,
I mean way better.
Speaker 4: My brother, my brother used to live in Virginia and
we go down there and they are like this is
just horrifying, Like it's like this is it's almost like
an assaulting.
Speaker 3: Like I said, if you find a good pizza place
somewhere outside of Western New York, yeah, it's probably somebody
from Rochester.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so usually as transplant or from somebody from the Northeast. Like,
what is Boston's pizza? Like, I don't know why that
popped into my head, but I'm thinking another major Northeast.
I think it's kind of like New York. Yeah, I
would think, but I don't know. Anyway, A little tangent
my my brain just popped there, I did, Danny. Yeah,
pizza from forty Yeah, we're all hungry because it.
Speaker 5: Is the greatest food ever pizza.
Speaker 8: It's complete, It's got everything you need.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's got dairy, it's got meat.
Speaker 2: Do any of you not love it? Oh? I do
love pizza, love it? Yeah, I do love pizza.
Speaker 7: My wife we had pizza lasting. Yes, so I've.
Speaker 5: Got I can eat pizza every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would never Is there a drink or a
challenge at the Geneseo fraternities that bears your name Chino?
Are people doing an Ochino? Well? I don't I know.
Speaker 4: As of a few years ago, they're there. They still
played a little game they called Oino. I can't see
I screwed your name up again? Ikeino slam down at
the at the fraternity, So.
Speaker 2: Slam do these kids even know, So are you like
a legend when you walk back in there like old school?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm definitely old school, and I've at the movie.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell one one funny story about it that
will kind of uh when when when I when I
actually went there, I uh, you know a lot of
times we'd have a bunch of like fraternity parties and stuff,
and then towards the end of the night, they kind
of people would make their way up to the bars,
you know what I mean, the upper classmen and stuff
were depending on which bar, you know, anybody can get in.
But like a lot of times I just stay back
at the fraternity and and and hang out there. And
then I you know, I actually like invented a game
or two, right, just drinking type games, and you know,
they would play them. And I remember the one time
I graduated and you know, I get text from guys
they're like.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're they're still playing.
Speaker 5: They still play.
Speaker 4: And then they're like, oh, some of the some of
the you know, the sororities and stuff play and I
was like, this is kind of weird.
Speaker 5: Like I haven't been there in like twelve years.
Speaker 2: This is amazing. So this is amazing.
Speaker 4: I I'm the alumni president for my fraternity, which is
which is just another thing.
Speaker 2: That I do. You have like any time to do anything.
Speaker 5: I know there's times that I like, why am I?
Why do I do this stuff?
Speaker 2: But I like it.
Speaker 5: I mean it really was. Geneseo was like a super
special time in my life. And I grew up.
Speaker 4: There and had more fun than I probably should have.
But so anyway, we are planning the twenty year twenty
or twenty five year reunion for the fraternity and me
and like for the fraternity guys have a hotel. We're
there for the weekend and I get there super early
and like I had to help help a big part
in planning the whole party, right, all the alumni had
kicked in money and all this stuff.
Speaker 5: And I go to the front.
Speaker 4: I go to the hotel to the lobby to check
in and I'm like, uh, yeah, I got a reservation
and she's like, all right, name and I'm like Joe
o'kino and she's like oo like Slam, Like yeah right,
I was no, I know, I was like, that's that's
kind of weird, right, Like she had actually played the
game Slam and just obviously it's not the most common
name in the world, right, so like.
Speaker 2: You need to you need to market that, Gettel or somebody.
Speaker 4: I have a few other ideas that have probably more
marketable than that.
Speaker 5: It's not the greatest game.
Speaker 4: I think Shot quick Draw would probably be a little
a little a little more marketable.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys you know.
Speaker 2: But the Slam has lasted for decades.
Speaker 4: But I know me and me and my buddy Tom
from Buffalo started a game called shot quick Draw.
Speaker 2: You guys know quick draw? Yeah, yeah, So we used.
Speaker 5: To play volleyball at a bar right in Buffalo.
Speaker 4: And the uh the one time we're just you know,
we're pregaming and hanging out, and I'm like, oh, I said,
I bet I could pick the winning number before you
can pick it.
Speaker 5: And he's like, picket or not pick it?
Speaker 4: Or like, oh well, let's let's each pick a number
and whoever's number comes in first, you lose. You have
to buy the shots, right, you have to buy a
shot for each of us. So we played it and
I won, so he had to buy me the shot.
Speaker 2: He wound up losing I think.
Speaker 5: Nine in a row, right in a row.
Speaker 2: So he's done.
Speaker 4: Well, we were his I think his wife was probably
his girlfriend at the time. She played too, but she
obviously drove us home. But yeah, we were eighteen shots he.
Speaker 2: Had bought in a row. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: So then we're like, wow, man, that game's great, right,
you know how the balls curve. So then we would
start playing, you know, we go out with our other
friends and then we'd start to play. Right now, we
have four or five people involved. Everybody gets a number,
and if you lose, you're buying the shot for everybody. Yeah,
and uh, I mean it starts getting super exciting right
like now, because you know, you know, you lose two
or three times in the night and you're you know,
you're down fifteen sixteen shots.
Speaker 5: I've played it with as many as sixteen seventeen people.
Speaker 2: Wow, man, you need a mortgage to get the many shots. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've played a few times where they're like, you guys
have every shot class that the bar owns.
Speaker 5: You got to bring them back over.
Speaker 4: I've played it with I mean, we've played it in
places where the waitress is playing the chef. We had
the chef once in Batavia playing we played one time.
Speaker 2: But you are competitive man, you love. We were we were.
Speaker 4: In Batavia for a hockey tournament guys, not for the
kids and not Batavia, Jamestown and the uh there's this.
Speaker 5: Guy this you know, we're getting all loud.
Speaker 2: There's like nine guys and we're all.
Speaker 4: Like screaming, let's go right here it comes, your number
comes in, everyone's screaming, and uh there's there's this local
guy that's like, what's going on?
Speaker 2: What are you guys? Do it?
Speaker 4: So we like explained the game. He's like, can I play?
We're like, chure, jump in, right, so can we play?
Speaker 2: We play for like.
Speaker 4: Another like yeah, like another hour and a half, right,
And this guy's like he wins every time. His never
his number never comes in. And the guy says, hey, man,
I feel bad. I got to go home, and we're like, yeah,
just go always Like I came up after work for
one beer and he's like, I've been here for like
an hour and a half. He's like, I've had like
eight shots with you guys. I've been drinking beer. He's like,
my wife's gonna kill me. I was just like, you
don't have to feel bad about it. You had a
good time, but I mean it is weird that you
went for one beer.
Speaker 3: These are these are the crazy things as hockey parents
that when we're on an out of town tournament, we
just we come up with crazy ship. When we play
in Pittsburgh three five seven, it's the third the third
bottle in the well, the fifth bottle in the well,
and the seventh bottle, and they mix them all together
and we just do the shot.
Speaker 2: Oh, Kevin, we his face. We do we do the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the game's fun and shot roulette. Jesus three five sevens.
Speaker 2: How you guys have ever survived all this? I don't
really know.
Speaker 3: How we all didn't get COVID because we have we're
MUNI yes, righto.
Speaker 2: We were young to young two years ago. All right,
for Joe, I say it right there we go there.
It is man interesting, Joe, what a life. The slam that's.
Speaker 5: Legendary, it's it's fun.
Speaker 2: Danny and I went to Fisher. I don't have them anything.
I'm not even in the Hall of fame. Danny's in
the Hall of fame. I don't have the Aino slam.
I got nothing. You got the piss cup of the shelf.
Oh yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Did this Fisher Fishers and hockey.
Speaker 2: You guys are good. They are a hockey. Yes, yes,
they're doing a little uh recruiting right now.
Speaker 5: I think, hopefully and hopefully some recruiting in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2: That would be good for Kevin, for Joe, for Danny.
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you Tomorrow's California baby, Things
of God Worth. He's a land up opportunity for me.
Is just a curse, that judge.
Speaker 7: You make us feel