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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to The Gimmick WrestleMania

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Night one review. I'm the architect Tress. Now I'm joined.

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Speaker 2: It works in two ways, really it does.

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Speaker 1: Mister kissed by the del s bubs. How you doing

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tonight on this easter slash WrestleMania weekend?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good, good, good good. So, yeah, we're gonna

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be talking about WrestleMania. We David will be joining us

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in a little bit. He's just driving back from where

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he was watching it. But yeah, mostly WrestleMania one. We're

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gonna go over the draft a little bit. We're going

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talk about stand Deliver David sbobc the whole thing, and

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I've seen the back half of it, but we're gonna

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start there. But yeah, if you like what we do here,

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other week will begin an episode. Right now, you got

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three because we just did the predictions in the draft

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last week. So if you are still once in their

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Night two predictions, that's there. We got this and then

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Night two. We'll be back again tomorrow, So subscribe if

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we'll have the cudout episodes. So lots of good stuff

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going on here. But yeah, it's exciting time and some

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we've been waiting for for a while. So we started

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this podcast last year for around WrestleMania time, and like

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we said, we've come here for now over a year.

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But yeah, here we are. Spos. How's the draft stuff looking?

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Do you need more time or you want me.

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Speaker 2: To thank you? All I have to put in here

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is just some bonus points.

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Speaker 1: Bonus points. Yeah, so while you're doing that, I will

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read off the list for if you don't know. What

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we do is we have a draft works like a

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sports fantasy draft where we all drafted ten superstars that

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we want to do well. We do have eleven slot

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for the jobber pick, so people that lose, so I'll

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go over Sposi spos has, John Cena, Gunder, Penta Eosky,

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Naomi Bailey. We'll talk about that. I'm sure you're not

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happy about that potential stuff going on there. Jimmy USO Phoenix,

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that's a that's a steel pick Phoenix right there went

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from like we'll talk about the actual match, but I'm

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always like, why do like that happened, Tiffany. There's many

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feel that sometimes lately in the Triple H era, they

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debut a few weeks before reestumating. It's like, oh, that's

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weird stuff. Look at Phoenix man a couple months ago

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stuck in Quantanamo Bay and then gets released just on

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SmackDown and be like, Okay, he's gonna be on there

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getting ready for Estmania and then gets a one on

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one match also under the circumstances you want. But what

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a crazy storm. What a sleeper pick for you, because

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that's like you're gonna get points anyways, but still.

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Speaker 2: Not not that good. It's they are kind of weird ones.

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I feel like there's some I got, like some underrated ones.

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Speaker 1: I think, well and Russo is another good sleeper pick

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you might have because this Randy or an open challenge

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just happens is more and then round out you got

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rock Stand prez espos Jobber pick is solo, so jobbers

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mean if you lose that gets you points, and then

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the rest of the points are all based on title wins,

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main events stuff like that, stipulation matches and on pay

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per views are double rest so Mania, we have some

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cash and stuff similar many Bank money Bank, which we'll

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talk about in Roy Rumble, My Pick's Rhea Ripley, seth Rawlins,

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My Boy Now, bron Breaker, Charlotte Flair, Jay Usso, Randy

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Warton Live, Morgan Jacob to Alistair Black and Lyra Valkyria.

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My jobber is Austin Theory. And then David's pick Bastard

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took Cooley Roads for me again, Cody Rhodes, Beyond capell Air,

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c Him Punk, Chelsea Knight, l A Knight, Knight, Chelsea

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Chelsea Green and l A Knight, Drew McIntyre, Tiffany Strand,

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Jake Cargo, Finn Balor, Montese Ford and his jobber is

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Carmel and Hayes, which I can't reve.

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Speaker 2: Lucky didn't start didn't start counting yesterday. I want to

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drop like that's a minus twenty right there.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, how do you feel in David

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David Hughes join us the number one Paul Hyman guy,

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uh one, how are you doing? And too, how do

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you feel about your job? Are coming on? Hayes winning

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the you know, prestigious Andre the Giant Battle Royal. You

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know he picked him as a jobber, but maybe this

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is the start of the new bush, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited for number one. Sorry, I'm late. I

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make it here on time. But as far as Carmelo Hayes, yeah,

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of the Andre Memorial Battle Royal. So I kind of

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still think that Carmelo is in good hands.

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Speaker 1: And good Oh for you being a job like that,

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good job. I don't want you to say that I

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don't like that, I thinek okay, So let me just

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go down those winners quickly. I mean, I have like

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a loser bracket and a winter brack.

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Speaker 2: I saw the fullest I think yesterday, but definitely go

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Speaker 1: So Cizzarrow at the time was a win because that

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was the start of the big like as have you

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ever watched Wrestling thirty.

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Speaker 2: Not the full mast Okay full show.

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Speaker 1: I've seen like parts of it legitimately, I was there

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alive and on the ground with people. Cizarrow was one

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of the most over people in the world, and almost

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we're hoping he'd be in the battle. But I'd say

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Cizarrow's a win. Big shows like a win because like

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it's a legendary picture.

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Speaker 2: It's like he had to win it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Baron Corman, I still put there because that was

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the service push. That was from like getting NXT there

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set works. Then you got Mojo Matt Hardy. That's I

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don't know if that's a winner, like broken Matt Hardy. Yeah,

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do much. Bronz Stroman bron Schroman's always a loss, like

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the runner was calling Joe's from sn L. You fucking

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kidding me, that's a loss, Jay Uso. I'll put it

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as a win, but that was just like we just

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need to give it to somebody to give to Jay

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lost category because it was.

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Speaker 2: For a legendary moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like just doing the whatever. So we're five came

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out Bronson Reid I put as a win because he

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did get pushed last year. Yeah, and then Hayes is

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a TVD so right now we have it to me

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is six wins and four losses for actually meaning them.

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we're not gonna talk that too much, you know, check

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out any other podcast to review the battley. We're here

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talking about WrestleMania forty one. So a night one s bubs,

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What did you think of the show overall? Five match card,

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no big surprises, no other kind of segments or anything

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like that's what do you think from start to finish

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Speaker 2: I'd say overall, I enjoyed it. I think there's definitely

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like a bail too. But I think there are a

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few matches that sort of like disappointed or like underwhelmed.

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were really great. And then obviously there were some ones

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there that just absolutely delivered or even over delivered.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, David, I thought it was looking by two very

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good matches and then yeah, there was up and down

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you know, it was a solid Night one of WrestleMania.

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I'm happy. If you were following me on x formally

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known as Twitter, I went seven and her on my WrestleMania.

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Speaker 1: Picurea so here.

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Speaker 3: I am out here undefeated for Night one, So I'm

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happy with that. But yeah, for the most part, things

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kind of went the way that I expected.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, I was I think it's a very

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rocky show. It's funny when we did the predictions and

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we kind of talked about like night one, Night two,

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and I said, oh, the reason more excited for Night

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one is Night two to me looks like a two

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match type of card, and that's what this ended up being.

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I'd say three because we'll get to it. But one

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match in the mid card completely over delivered. If you

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listen to predictions, I thought I wrote it off.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I think I think I was

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the one saying it was gonna be really good.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, and I'll completely admit when I'm wrong,

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like no, and we'll get there like, oh that really worked.

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Main event delivered big time. I don't think any of

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I think it over delivered. We'll get there because David

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did talk about some stuff. But you never know, Like

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that's a tough thing when you have fun prediction and

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fantasy booking and stuff sory trip. I can't sit and

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be like I just enjoyed the show. I'm not critical. No, no,

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like that's the thing though, it's like, oh that sounds

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like a great idea, but you know, let's see some

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of those great ideas were delivered. And then so yeah,

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like because it's tough.

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Speaker 2: It's so i'd say, like all the everything that happened

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makes sense and works like on paper. Yeah, like if

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you just showed me the decisions of every single match,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everything made sense. I think there's just some stuff

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in between the matches that it just didn't completely gel

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Newgate New Newgate, New Days and Viking Raiders, like a

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stip would have been nice. And again I agree with

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that side. I don't think anything was a fail. I

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wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: It's just that when there's no John c Universus Austin Theory, no.

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Speaker 1: Or no Ja and Jimmy right, there's that. It's just

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that I think it there's stuff that underdelivered, or I

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Speaker 4: I felt like the stretch of yeah, it was kind

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of like what people say WrestleMania fifteen, where it's like

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it's just like raw.

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Speaker 1: But like yes, and that's that's why I say this

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I wouldn't fail it. But I'd say when they've started

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doing the Night one Night Two's, I think that's probably

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the weakest one they've done since the like the the

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COVID Era, which is pretty good because COVID was that

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was a fucking whatever show, Like I can't blame them

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for that, right, but.

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Speaker 3: So many things had to be changed with that, so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think even that I'd say the WrestleMania

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after because like you had Sasha Bianca. But I remember

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those nights were a little wonky. Ever since then, I

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think wrestman has always said like just pretty much a

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very good to great night. I think this had great

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matches a moment. I don't know if I can say

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the whole night one was great. I had a good

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time with it, but I think it was like a

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good Mania. But I do agree that the stage we

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you know, didn't talk up that looked phenomenal, but there

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sounds annoying, but when you have Alien Knight and Sharp

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Speaker 1: It was weird. I also say, as a guy like

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just being like the window going in and like yes,

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like that does nothing for me, Like doesn't do it?

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Speaker 3: Only down the window in a convertible or just the

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look of it's.

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Speaker 1: Not your car, we know it, like I'd rather have

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Just last year they had Alien I do the slim

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gym thing, right, I think.

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Speaker 2: Something he gave away the car to to something. Oh

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it was, I think did he ever? I don't think

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he ever did an entrance with the car, like at

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a p Oh he.

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Speaker 1: Showed up in the parking lot with it once, right,

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I think that's what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he did that one time. Yeah. At Summer

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signments he destroyed Logan Poles the right tr his prime car.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing where I'm not a car guy.

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But even look at WrestleMania seen as WRESTLEMANTD twenty three entrants,

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he's like driving through the streets of Chicago. It's all

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like fast fears and then the car breaks through glass

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and pulls up. That's like, oh that's cool, versus a

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car just drives with the ramp. It's like cool. I

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go on the car show on a Saturday and see that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're getting another one tomorrow. I feel like,

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I bet you're right the lowrider entrance.

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Speaker 1: Because they're like, oh, look at these ramps, we can

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do whatever. But yeah, so I do think and it's

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funny because I feel since the Night one, Night two

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things started, almost all those WrestleManias, everyone's been like, oh,

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Night one's the better night. I think Night two is

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like I won't say easy, but as a good chance

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of actually overperforming this. And I do think there's gonna

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be a bit of a I know, Triple just gonna

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do the press conference like one of the best nights ever.

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My Hall of Fame was great, and now WrestleMania is

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even better. It's like, no, like, I think there's gonna

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be a general sense of Okay, we can feel there

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one and you could tell that crowd. That crowd was

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not really into the show for the first three matches.

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I know people are, oh, they're tired with the Eden.

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Even that, like I think is the finish of that match,

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people were a little caught off guard. So yeah, it was.

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It was a weird night, but I'm excited for night

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too still and I think they ended very strong. And

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that's the biggest thing, right, That's what you want to do,

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even if all the matches end up being ship, at

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least at the main event delivered. That's what people are

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going to talk about.

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Speaker 2: And they did do like the like we're saying for

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the the mocks and swerve thing, like even if a

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show is great, if you have like a bad like,

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people remember the last thing. That's why people always talk

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about this was the final shot of a movie or WrestleMania,

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Like people remember that image because that's like what you're

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gonna talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree with, oh god, what was it

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not dynasty? What was before dynasty? In aw revolution? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was a swerve standing over mocks. So

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people are like, Okay, even though people didn't like the

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main event, and they're like, we're hopeful for the future here.

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Speaker 1: But and even that show everyone said this, I completely agree,

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Cope and Mox not good. But if you were to

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flip that and put Tony and May in the main event,

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even if like people like, okay, Mox and Cope, that

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really bummed. But then we're on the next thing. So

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that's where it's like, that's all that matters is the

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play right and now, and I guess we can talk

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about it in retrospect. That's why I still wish there's

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maybe world title involved. The way to me, how Jay

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and Guther went, you couldn't have put last I guess

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I'm still in the camp that.

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Speaker 2: I still think it was ever at any point considered.

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Speaker 1: No, of course not right. But that's why, like on

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this night, I don't think anything could have even Tiffany

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and Charlttie, I think delivered.

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Speaker 2: There are some points in Tiffany. I mean, I think

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I like, I guess, just going ahead of it, I

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think I liked the Tiffany and Charlotte match a lot

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more than a lot of people online. I think I

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really didn't like it. Like there were most like the

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match where I was like, this could be the main

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event of WRESTLINGIA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can start there. Go ahead, David.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't go that far with it being the

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main event, but I did like that match. It was

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out of the seven matches, it was in the top

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three of the matches on there. There's no way that

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the way that Jay and Gunther ended, even with yes,

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the crowds all behind j Everyone's doing the eat, that

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that could not have been the closer. Especially the actual

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ending of the match. There is no way that you

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could have sent the crowd home happy with that. So

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at least with this you had a banger match. You

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sent the crowd home happy, and that's one of the

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things about wrestling is at the end of the day,

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are you sending the crowd home happy with memories. I

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did feel like this WrestleMania was lacking big spot moments.

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Speaker 1: There was like for highlight reel stuff like well, what

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are you gonna get?

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Speaker 3: Like I feel like, yeah, what's that memorable thing that's

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gonna send you back saying oh remember when this happened.

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Outside of the ending of the triple threat, there wasn't

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anything that was really like, yeah, oh man, remember this.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's almost like not that I wanted multimatch,

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meaning because a lot people have complained about that, but

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I almost and I'm not also going to get in

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the camp of like Ja should have won the rumble

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get to Da Da Da. But I think the problem

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the way how it almost on the night of it

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just felt like everyone knew, like it felt like there

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was no drama they tried in the match. So I

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almost wonder if it would have been better to somehow

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do a triple threat and not make it so obvious

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Jay is winning and think, oh, he's just there for

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the entrance, because it's kind of like remember that raw

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where Ja won the Icy title and it was a

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shock because we didn't think that was happening. Where this,

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I felt like everyone was okay, like, especially for the

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people that hated it, We're just like, let Jay win

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and move on, which was a lot of my timeline

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of like, okay, moving on. I don't even want to

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talk about that match. And I thought, actually we'll go

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back to We'll keep with Tiffany and shock because we

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started there. But I think with S's I liked it

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more than other people. To me, like other than one,

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Charlotte has a great track record, like the multi winning matches,

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the match with Oscar, the two or three, and now this.

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I don't think this is as good as the two

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Rea matches, but to me, this is like a solid

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I'm fine with actually giving it a four. I think

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they really jeled. I love that because David, you mentioned

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this in the Jade Naomi one. Right when the bell

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rang for this match, they started fighting and tossed into

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the ground.

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Speaker 2: That's that was what I wanted for this match, Like, yes,

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was exactly what I wanted this match to be.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and I think that's what maybe some people

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were like, one, oh, I need the technical rest it's

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like you can't do that once you went this route,

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you know, it's like you have to do the brawl.

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And I thought they had really good chemistry. I think

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the ending was a little that's where they lost me.

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It was just a couple of weird spots or moments

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that they just didn't completely click. I don't know why,

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but I said this in the discord, Charlotte did completely

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sand bag Tiffany and that thing. And I don't know

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because Charlotte for like the ten seconds before was holding

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her hand.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She just like really got a ring her on the

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buckle and was just like out of it. But if

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or it was, she was just giving her a fuck

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you because she did not help her all with the pickup,

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with the draw nothing. So I'm not gonna say either way,

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because she easily could have, you know, been wonky and

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like you don't know where you are right. But and

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then we also found out that and you saw after

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the match that I don't know what happened. I think

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she probably hit it on her the knee bracelet or whatever,

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because yeah, Tiffy lost her left front tooth and that

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was that was.

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Speaker 3: She reached for her mouth after the knee brace spot,

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so I'm guessing that that's where it happened. In her

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mouth was freshly busted open. But I will say for

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the energy and for the few that this went into

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that moment afterwards of Tiffany holding the belt open, having

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the knot on her forehead, having the busted tooth again,

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it just all played into the this is a fight

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not a wrestling match, which again, this is what Naomi

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and Jade should have been. A fight, not a wrestling match.

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You threw her off a thing into a car. All

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this like the beat down inside the elimination chamber, This

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should have been visceral. Tiffany and Charlotte delivered that more.

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But yeah, there were moments towards the end where I

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felt like Charlotte basically said, Okay, I gave you enough.

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Now you gotta earn this ending. If you're going over,

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you're gonna have to earn it. You're gonna have to

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put in the work. There were moments where I could

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see Tiffany going to pick her up and she was

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getting absolutely no help from Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: And there was one time she just hit it really

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hard and I was like, oh, oh, I again, who knows.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was like, I feel like, like that's

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exactly what I wanted. Like those moments we were like, oh,

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they're hitting.

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Speaker 1: Each other for real, and that's why who knows because

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they could be completely playing off that right, and Charlotte

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is good.

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Speaker 2: To me, this was like I'm seeing this, that's like,

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it's like to me, this match is like and it's

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a match I think is good, but a lot of

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people love it a lot more than me. To me,

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this was like my my gooonther versus Sammy's.

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Speaker 1: Aid from last Oh yeah, okay, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's what I compare this to, where it's

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just like this, they're just getting like beat up on,

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just like hard, and you're just like praying and wishing

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that this person wins it.

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Speaker 1: The match where a bunch of the internet thought Sammy

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fucked up his superplex spot man, that's that's not that's

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that's not supposed to go. But yeah no, and I

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guess we didn't even say that. Charlotte did take the loss.

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I was surprised. I'm surprised by a few things, not

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the main event. Once I saw how it went down,

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not at all, but this.

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Speaker 2: I think for this for the story. I mean I

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was I was confident that if we had to win, yes.

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Speaker 1: For the story. But as we've heard from multiple people

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that there's been a very political season in WWE, so

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I was like, that's the thing where was like, yeah,

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story wise, this makes sense, but it's like, is this

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gonna happen? And yeah, she got the win there, and

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I kind of hope they don't run this one back,

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Like I don't think there's any I think it's something

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where Padsman's back done whatever. But then in the draft,

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separate them, get Charlotte the raw or vice versa. I

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think this is like a good one and done because

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you're in two ways of like if Charlot, let's say

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that they do revenge wins, I'd rather Chary want at

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wrestle Mania to do a big moment. And then if

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Charotte just loses again, it's like, okay, you can't take

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your stock down that much. That's why I feel like,

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completely separate them, go different route. Fuck, have Charlotte squashed

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Chelsea and just run Ramdom in the US style, you know,

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Like I think you can return to this at another

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point in Shark and get her win back. But I

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don't want like an immediate backlash win. I could maybe

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take a triple threat if they do those two and

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add to one, I could maybe take that, but I

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don't want to one on one right away. Like leave

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it where it is, and I'm I'm happy it could

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have been like a bit better because obviously I didn't

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get like five to five, but like, I'm happy with

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like a four star match. I think Charlotte, I don't know.

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I guess I haven't looked too much on the time.

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I'm sure some people are critical to me. She like

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showed that she still has what she can with the

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like with their quality, and Tiffany is still great as

470
00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:17,759
well too, so they had some good sequences.

471
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, the match went longer than I expected, but

472
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,039
it wasn't a bad match, with the exception of a

473
00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:26,720
get a few moments where Charlotte looked like she's sand

474
00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:31,039
bagged her. Overall, the match was very good between them two.

475
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,319
They had a lot of great chemistry with a lot

476
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,640
of their moments. I'm not a fan of Charlotte wearing

477
00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:40,599
the pink. It just it kept distracting me the entire time.

478
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,799
I get the psychological it was a aspect of the entrance.

479
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,039
Speaker 2: They in every segment, they knew they were the same

480
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,240
colors and stuff.

481
00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like Charlotte has traditionally done a solid color

482
00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:56,160
with some gold accidents, just like her dad, and now

483
00:20:56,279 --> 00:20:59,119
just switched up and be in this pink and baby blue.

484
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,200
It just it was weird. It was distracting, and at

485
00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:04,559
times when they'd mix it up and you just got

486
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,440
pink on pink with all this blonde hair going everywhere.

487
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: At the very start of the match, I was I

488
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,440
saw like, oh, Tiffany's wearing like a knee brace, I

489
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,400
guess to make fun of Charlotte, and it's like, oh, no,

490
00:21:16,519 --> 00:21:18,680
that's Charlotte. Yeah.

491
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 3: I will say I did think that Tiffy's gear paid

492
00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:27,519
homage to the old Divas Championship, and I liked it so,

493
00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:31,759
but that it was just, yeah, the wardrobe aspect of it.

494
00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:34,559
And I know this sounds We're just coming from a

495
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,279
guy saying this. It just it felt off to me.

496
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,200
I wish Charlotte would have stuck with her more traditional gear.

497
00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:44,319
Speaker 1: Unless Tiffles fake teeth, She's doing the presser right now,

498
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,759
she has no chip tooth whatsoever. That's super weird. So

499
00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:49,480
unless she thought some fake teeth or something.

500
00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: It might have been just like maybe it was like

501
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,720
dried blood, because there was at some point where there

502
00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,680
was blood coming down, like it was like stone Cold

503
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,119
at WrestleMania at thirteen, Like I saw them blood on

504
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,640
her teeth.

505
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was just like or

506
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,960
I wonder if she got in his part friend she

507
00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:06,440
got any paint off of the knee brace too. That

508
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,640
could be because like Charlotte's knee brace was dazzled and

509
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,319
everything because it was it looked.

510
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 2: Speaking of the knee brace, that's some of my favorite stuff,

511
00:22:14,839 --> 00:22:17,240
like when she was doing dropping the leg and how

512
00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:19,680
she got out of the figure four just punching the

513
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,119
knee brace. I think I love stuff like that well.

514
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: And I was wondering, and this is what I really

515
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,359
enjoyed too, was the match was started being a fight

516
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,119
and then Charlotte started taking control and then Tiffy went

517
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,440
for the knee and I thought that was a great

518
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,920
Like even though it's kind of more of a heal move,

519
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,960
that makes sense of Okay, the veteran has the upper hand,

520
00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:37,319
so what you're gonna go, You're gonna go out for

521
00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:39,480
the knee. But what I loved the way. I can't

522
00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:41,559
remember how they did it, but Charlotte did either some

523
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,079
flip or Tiffany threw her in the ring and Charlotte

524
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,079
hit on her leg and grabbed her knee right away

525
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,440
and like pushed Tiffany away and said like wait, wait wait,

526
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:51,559
not in like a fighting way. It was like literally

527
00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:53,519
like trying to get space. So they made it look

528
00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:55,920
like she would shoot her for like five seconds and

529
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,359
then when the match. But that was such a good

530
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,240
touch of like it wasn't like hits like oh my god,

531
00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:01,079
and like can I go on?

532
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,039
Speaker 2: It was like literally like ae, they didn't like, they

533
00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:06,440
didn't like zoom in on there anything else.

534
00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: I thought that was great, like really done by well

535
00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:11,359
by Charlotte. And that's also a great like heal tactic

536
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,039
of like hey, I had the match until my knee

537
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,920
kind of gave out and kind of as a babyface

538
00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:19,319
or a heel used as example. And I did like that, Charlotte.

539
00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:22,359
I actually would have liked this more because Charlotte started

540
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,440
to work on Tiffany's leg, but then they kind of

541
00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,279
dropped that at the end of the match. I thought

542
00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:28,880
that was gonna happen, and I don't think happened too much.

543
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,200
But I was thought, oh, we're gonna get like a

544
00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:32,279
one legged woman match at the end. It's like they're

545
00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:32,680
both hurt.

546
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: But I thought it was gonna be like her her

547
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,119
Tiffany's leg was gonna give out on the moon salt. Yeah. Yeah,

548
00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:43,720
but yeah they did the figure four spot and after

549
00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:46,720
that it wasn't really a big factor. I guess.

550
00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would have liked them tie back to that,

551
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,279
but no, overall really good. I liked, like I said,

552
00:23:51,319 --> 00:23:54,200
Charlott's Flayer's entrance, very disappointed, but that soon as ally nice.

553
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,640
It's like, okay, it's a car, nothing else.

554
00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: The Tiffany thing I was. I was actually happy that

555
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200
she did the whole Barbie thing because that was a

556
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,160
rumor like that. It was like they kind of changed

557
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,240
the way to just like generic pink. It's because before

558
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,839
and the next year, Tittron was like the full Barbie

559
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,000
font and people are like, maybe there's some issue with Mattel,

560
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,039
Like you can't just like straight up to the Barbie thing.

561
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,519
But then they mentioned the entrance like it's like an

562
00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:23,279
official like Mattel designed this Tiffany like dream house for

563
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,000
her entrance.

564
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: She had an incredible entrance. Incredible entrance.

565
00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:29,319
Speaker 1: It was great. It's two boxes. There's one in her

566
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,359
like a gold dress looking all like beautiful and stuff.

567
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,119
That one where she's a box when they're like digital

568
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,519
frames where she's moving and there's tipping the box, like

569
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,880
really really cool. That's like a WrestleMania moment entrance right there.

570
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,359
And that was really well done. And I don't think

571
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,079
there's anything Okay, Yeah, yeah.

572
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,839
Speaker 2: That's pretty much I have to say, Yeah, I really

573
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,880
liked it, and that'll be one I defend its people.

574
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,119
If people don't like it, will be a defender that yeah.

575
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: And that's tough too because always, like some of the

576
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,640
Four horse Women, there's just people that hate them. So sure,

577
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,759
it's always like a natural.

578
00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: Like I'm seeing a lot of Charlotte fan saying Tiffany

579
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,799
was Sandbagger just making Charlotte look bad in the sad.

580
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: I think if anything was looked bad was intentional till

581
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,400
maybe the end. But David anything on this one.

582
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 3: No, Like I said, it's in my top three of

583
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,640
the night. I think right now I would situate it

584
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:22,319
as third from the top out of the seven. So

585
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:26,880
and I it's a pretty good match, definitely better than

586
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,240
the other women's match on this in my opinion, and

587
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:32,680
I think that it hit a lot of the beats

588
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,319
that it needed to for where this match ended up

589
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,640
going for the one that wasn't set out to be

590
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,119
the blood feud but became it just because of natural things.

591
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,000
This ended up being what this match needed to be.

592
00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, we're gonna talk about Jaye and their

593
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,920
next is. I haven't watched this clip, but I'm gonna

594
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,599
pull it out because I see I don't think it's

595
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:53,720
one hundred percent real, but I see a lot of

596
00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:57,440
people like saying Jimmy's or Jay's having a very Cody

597
00:25:57,559 --> 00:26:00,440
Rose Jay. So after the press conference title and.

598
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 3: He had won last night before the Hall of Fame.

599
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: Some people are saying he's been drinking. Me are you

600
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,400
asking just meals?

601
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeetz? Hell yeah, I love it far Internet.

602
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, soak it in because.

603
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: This is it, right, you know what I'm saying.

604
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, but hell yeah, two time world Chakras.

605
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,759
Speaker 4: What world?

606
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: Oh? I get it because he won? Yeah, so yeah,

607
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,759
we got James.

608
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: Stop letting him go on early because you're giving him

609
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,279
too much time to drink between his match and the

610
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,240
press conference.

611
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah he's celebrating, you know. But yeah we got the opener,

612
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,319
like we said, it was Jay and Gunther. Yeah for me,

613
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:51,680
this was Jay got young entrance with cheerleaders and flags.

614
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,759
That was all cool, had a long walk because he

615
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:54,960
came down to the crowd.

616
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: But oh my god, you know the story about this

617
00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:01,240
this DJ and the and the fighting game he's in.

618
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,680
So the thing is like this fighting game, I forget

619
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,440
what's it called, Yeah, Fatal Fury. So this new game,

620
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,640
it just has some like random guest characters, like Cristiano

621
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,799
Ronaldo is a guest character. And then there's this there's

622
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,799
this DJ guy who people they announced them and people

623
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,519
are like, who is this guy? And he's just like

624
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,759
some I forget where he's from, like Sweden or something.

625
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,240
He's a DJ and he's like not even that famous.

626
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:29,440
I think someone pulled up his Spotify and he didn't

627
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,880
even have like a million listeners. And he's like a

628
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,240
full fledged guest character in this game, like not even

629
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:38,240
like a DLC, like he's main base roster. They just

630
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:40,640
put this DJ guy in the game and now I

631
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,759
guess he's doing promotion for it. But yeah, all the

632
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:45,400
fans in this fighting game are like, why is this

633
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,720
guy in here? Like it's not he's like he's not

634
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:51,160
even like a controversial figure like anything bad as far

635
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,680
as I was just like, yeah, it's like, really, just

636
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:55,599
put this this DJ guy in the game.

637
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: I guess the main like for wrestling on the mat

638
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:01,119
that was the biggest logo.

639
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the company that

640
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,319
like I think like the Saudi spot like whatever studio

641
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,160
makes that make that game. So I guess maybe that's

642
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,599
my ruinaldo them there too, but maybe some of some prints.

643
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,200
That's his favorite favorite artist, so he's just like, yeh,

644
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:16,960
put them in the game.

645
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: My girls were like you should get that game. Like

646
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,759
I'm not getting that game. That's not happening. But uh

647
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,720
yeah we had Jay and Gunther for me, Like I said,

648
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,039
this was a weird one where I thought they're even

649
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:33,480
like I can't recall actually no, I can recall. I

650
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:36,279
feel like their Interconninal matches better because they said he

651
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:36,640
was three.

652
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: I would say, I'd say all their other matches were better.

653
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember the first one. That's why I can't

654
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,759
say that, but so like the Interconini remember and then

655
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:45,839
Sarah's at Nights made event I remember, and yeah they were.

656
00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: The Intercontinental one was the first one. The second one

657
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:49,359
was King of.

658
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,039
Speaker 1: The Ring, right, Okay, I think I mean that one,

659
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:53,119
So I don't think that one's like.

660
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:56,279
Speaker 2: That one's like okay, I guess it's like it's in

661
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,480
the middle because yeah, and then the Saturn X man

662
00:28:59,720 --> 00:28:59,880
on you.

663
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:02,599
Speaker 1: So this one was weird where they wrestled like a

664
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,400
traditional just like raw match for like two to three

665
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,640
minutes and then they went into their finishes like I

666
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,880
would say right away, but it felt like that where

667
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,279
it's just like, Okay, we're trying to get this out

668
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:12,720
of the way so the crowd will be excited. What's

669
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:17,000
gonna happen. And then they had these moments and I

670
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:18,599
think it picked up a little bit in the middle,

671
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:20,319
so like I was not happy at the end and

672
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,160
not happy at the beginning, but the middle they were

673
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:24,160
you know, vibing, going good. And then they did a

674
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,680
spot where I liked Jay countered and did the power

675
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,039
bomb like that, and then I think my problem is

676
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:31,599
with this is why they didn't get like the big

677
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,519
pop was they did the class like okay, you're versing

678
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:36,960
a monster you're gonna have to hit a super finisher.

679
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:38,799
You're gonna have to do something special, and that's what

680
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,839
Jay did. He hit three splashes, so that okay, that's

681
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:42,960
how you beat Goon three. He takes three to four splashes.

682
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:45,599
He's so knocked out he can't. But then they have

683
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,799
fucking Ja putting Gouther's own move and you would think

684
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,039
that's even Baden has to lose to if he'd pass out. No,

685
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:54,440
he puts in his own move and he taps and

686
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:57,240
then like the Chairy on tap top, he taps like

687
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:01,119
ten fifteen seconds. It like it was quick. It was

688
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,359
like brock Leser had that fucking thing on there, like

689
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,680
I don't know what was going on Like this like

690
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,359
feels like this is not gonna be the case gust

691
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,839
I getting suspended moral But David will remember back in

692
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,640
after like Eddie and ben Wall when they had the

693
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,680
suspension steroid stuff, when weird stuff would happen, like oh

694
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,319
why mister Kenny just get written off and then like

695
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:20,559
the day after it'd be like, oh, three day suspension

696
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:23,480
the policy. That's what this felt like. Guther fucked up

697
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:25,039
and like we're gonna write them off and he's gonna

698
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:26,039
be gone for a couple months, like.

699
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: It was, this is dropping the world titles randomly, right.

700
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:32,319
Speaker 1: It was very odd, and I think that's kind of

701
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,680
hurt the pop because with a tap out, it's like

702
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:37,240
it wasn't even built up like oh could he tap

703
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,000
It was just like I think no one took it

704
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:41,039
as this is the finish, just oh Jay's doing as hole,

705
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:43,359
this is gonna lead to the next like situation, and

706
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,000
it was just over and it was very odd. I

707
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:48,960
think that's what kind of it didn't kill the Paul Pellowen,

708
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:50,519
but I think it could have been what I was

709
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:53,400
expecting to be that huge resume Jay us moment winning

710
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,680
it wasn't. I think they kind of missed out. So

711
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,559
I don't know who the producer was on this match,

712
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,920
but I think the two guys and the layout of it,

713
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,759
it didn't deliver. And I was somebody on the predictions.

714
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:04,720
I actually thought they were gonna overdeliver. I thought, you

715
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:06,960
know what, as a JA defender, I think they're gonna

716
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,039
have a really good Mania match. Even Gunther said, hey,

717
00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:10,599
like I'm not a versus a big guy, but I

718
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,279
think too, you know, stars of trying to prove themselves,

719
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,000
so I thought, oh, we're gonna get to me at

720
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:17,480
least a four star. This is like I think it's

721
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:19,960
like a three three point two five Like it was fine,

722
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960
but to me, very underwhelming, and I don't think I

723
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,640
had the hood spot to start then on at night

724
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,759
off like we thought. Other than okay, you got everyone

725
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:26,680
you eating cool.

726
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: I would definitely call it a three star match because

727
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:33,720
again that that ending just fell short and I saw

728
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,960
somebody tweet out. Traditionally, you know, good guys pass out

729
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:43,440
bad guy's tap, but in this instance, I don't think

730
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:45,079
that the heel should have tapped.

731
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: It did not be prove as well too.

732
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it came out of nowhere. There was nothing about it.

733
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,880
It's not even like previously Jay had said I'm gonna

734
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,559
make you submit with your own move or anything else

735
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,359
like that. There was no build up to this had

736
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,680
all the frog splashes like end on that the one

737
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,400
where he did it when he was lying face down.

738
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,039
If he had pinned him after that, I would have

739
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,200
considered that more of something. You just hit four frog splashes,

740
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,000
including one to his back boom. That's what it took.

741
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:19,400
You had to go like Roman with the six Superman

742
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:22,759
punches or whatnot, like you had to go just that fall.

743
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: He could have he could have done all four all

744
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:30,440
four frogs like US splashes, you know what, Romacre.

745
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: I thought that's what he was doing.

746
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, But to finish it off with the sleeper and

747
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,920
then to tap that way, I'm just like I it

748
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,160
just did not make sense. So I don't know. Maybe

749
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,680
it was actually Gunther and Charlotte's deems not Kaiser. Maybe

750
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,799
she got her uh Austrians wrong. I'm not sure. It

751
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,720
just it seemed like, yeah, when RVD won the title

752
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:57,359
and he technically was a double champ, and a week

753
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,559
later he's just dropping everything because he's getting suspended. That's

754
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:03,319
what it felt like. It felt like this is an

755
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:08,279
RVD Jeff Hardy mister Kennedy edge situation at back when

756
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,440
they had the big steroid pop.

757
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we got the fight for report their request that

758
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:19,240
is really he told them this was his last man.

759
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,519
He's not resigning out there, just the Mariah Man.

760
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: All In Cope versus Walter incontinental whatever championship. Yeah. No,

761
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,839
I don't know if it's like I could see it

762
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,799
be in some weird triple h whatever business thing where

763
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:36,079
they're like, we want to make them, we want to

764
00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:38,039
get him real low to see what he'll do after

765
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:40,200
the fact, like have him have this loss if it's

766
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,279
something like because he did publicly say that he didn't

767
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:44,279
want to first Jay, like that wasn't a storyline and

768
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:46,079
say you kind of wish that ever someone else, I

769
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,240
was like, yeah, you know what, maybe you should have

770
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:50,119
said that we're gonna we're gonna teach you and you're

771
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,960
gonna have Ja's kind of dog walking. Yeah, So it

772
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:56,079
was weird. And again it's it's tough because I'm somebody

773
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:58,759
that I do defend JA to a point because his popularity.

774
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,079
When people want him just fucking be like the current

775
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,799
Jerker or the Aundree butt, it's like, you can't do that.

776
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,480
This guy's one of the most over guys. He has

777
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,119
to be a main role. But I will say this

778
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:08,719
is two years in row now. I was excited for

779
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,519
his match and I was let down, not as much

780
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:12,400
as last year, but I did not think Jimmy and

781
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,960
j would do what they did last year, and they did.

782
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,719
And I thought Guther and J would overperform here and

783
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,639
they didn't. They put in maybe their worst match they've

784
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,719
had yet so it's like, I know we're gonna get

785
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,000
to it. Of Esbo's pitching the discord. I've said this

786
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:25,599
before that I would be completely fine whoever it is

787
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,320
of Jay lose that thing on Monday and like a

788
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,119
shock moment and then you can fire him up as

789
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,880
a baby face again. But I'd be completely fine if

790
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,760
something happens. But Espo's where were you on this matchup?

791
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,679
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I was just laughing now after

792
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,119
it's the four posts massacre thing. I just googled it

793
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,559
and one of the first the search results of the

794
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,840
Reddit question says, has the four posts massacre ever been

795
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,440
performed outside the confines of Ready to Rumble in any

796
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:56,159
major slash notable promotion? And the only reply is no,

797
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,480
it's dangerously illegal and could end careers. That wasn't even

798
00:34:59,519 --> 00:34:59,920
a paper.

799
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna do it. Someone's gonna have good gun thing.

800
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,719
That's the title back. He's gonna do the splashes from

801
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,480
the top. But yeah, what do you think about this?

802
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:09,679
S pubs uh.

803
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: I pretty much agree with everything David said. Yeah, it

804
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,679
ended up being like like a three or something like that.

805
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,360
Like it was, like you said, everyone knew who it

806
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,239
was happening. So I feel like even though people wanted

807
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,480
it happen, it kind of took away that suspense because

808
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,119
it wasn't like.

809
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,559
Speaker 3: It wasn't like you kind of just were.

810
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: Waiting for it to happen. It's like, at some point

811
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,679
he's gonna win, I guess, and the surprise was like

812
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,320
even you kind of wanted it to go longer or

813
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,760
be yeah, I guess, just no one was expecting him

814
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,840
to win with the sleeper hole or whatever, yeah, which

815
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,880
was just yeah, it was just a weird ending. I

816
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,199
don't know.

817
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: And even then, like the way this mattress laid out,

818
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,960
I would have loved, Like I saw some people book

819
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
it at first, like I don't know, do the bloodline

820
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:55,840
mini rules thing and have blood would come out and

821
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,800
then Jimmy, you know, like at that point that I

822
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,599
think would have like woke up the crowd a couple

823
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:01,639
of times, maybe put some suspense or something.

824
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,159
Speaker 2: But another thing too, it's like Gooon the doing like

825
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,440
a belt shot, which was just something he never does,

826
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,800
like that's this whole thing. He never cheats in any matches.

827
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,800
And she did it like off the He did it

828
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,639
like off the rip, like like three minutes into the match,

829
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,800
he like threw the reciree out of the way and

830
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,760
did a belt shot.

831
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: Well not to the thing of the match. It felt like,

832
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,760
and I don't know if this is for sure because

833
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,280
the first match, but feels like a match. If you

834
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,440
were to say, hey, it's time got cut, you'd be like, oh,

835
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:25,599
that makes sense because it just felt like the he

836
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:28,440
said the belt shot very Charlotte.

837
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Walked up to Goonther in the back and said, I'm

838
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,519
going thirty.

839
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah it's happening, but yeah, it's it's on. Yeah, like

840
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:40,159
he hits you with They fucking know what they did

841
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:43,239
with Jay. They superseded him. Actually, they made him take

842
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,599
the belt shot he took. He took Luther's finishers. He

843
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,159
choked him out like like he did at least with.

844
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: People are gonna pass to half faced Gooon the half

845
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,400
pace Wade Barrett photo on.

846
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:00,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we'll see. It's gonna be interesting the

847
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:01,679
next few weeks to see what happens with Jay. I

848
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:04,360
think you'll still be poplar, but it's gonna be interesting

849
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:06,559
because that's never even tonight. I was like, Okay, if

850
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:08,840
there's gonna be any time hardcore wrestling fan, I'm not

851
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,199
gonna say they completely turn. I think Jay, you heard

852
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,159
like uh smattering of blues but a booze but nothing

853
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:15,840
to the mount that I was like because I thought, Okay,

854
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,719
maybe people were gonna really love Gun through here, but

855
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:19,480
that wasn't the case. I think people are still in

856
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,119
the Jay high. Let's talk in six months now, because

857
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,000
I think if you put out multiple matches like this

858
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:27,519
in the few, like I really think they're gonna do

859
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:29,800
Jay and go their backlash, and I think it's a

860
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,360
really bad idea. I don't think they should do that there.

861
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,199
But I could just see that goo that cre like

862
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:37,199
I want my rematch and yeah, I don't know, maybe

863
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,760
there's a stip, but uh yeah we got that and

864
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,400
then we went on to New Day versus the Viking Raiders.

865
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:45,760
Nothing bad about this match, but I agree with people

866
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,599
that it's like this event. Yes it was a rain

867
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:50,559
event because they would.

868
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,639
Speaker 2: Have liked cool stuff, but it was like it just

869
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,440
kind of happened.

870
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,639
Speaker 1: I know this is a time thing, probably because this

871
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,719
I would say, this wrestling and did like almost exactly

872
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,400
for hours.

873
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: So that's like a lot of the matches weren't that long. There.

874
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,719
A lot of them were like ten instruments.

875
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,599
Speaker 1: Long because again shot in the main event.

876
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 3: Charlotte's match went nineteen minutes. The main event was thirty

877
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,679
almost thirty three minutes, and everything under that was pretty short,

878
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:20,239
uh Jane.

879
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: Half Yeah, because I was gonna if you count entrances

880
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:27,920
you had. You had Seth doing his rock impression with

881
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:33,480
the with the flamethrower. Roman. Surprisingly, Roman has the shortest

882
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:36,039
entrance of the three. Maybe he was it was cool

883
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:40,320
though with the with the bloodline, the falling stuff though, yeah,

884
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,199
I saw it could come down and and honestly punk

885
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:46,519
We're going to talk about that later, like generational entrance.

886
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,079
Speaker 1: But like again, maybe it's a time thing, but I

887
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,039
don't think like four hours. To me, four hours isn't

888
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:53,639
too much. I think when you hit started hit the

889
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:55,079
five hour, that's when you get tired. But to me,

890
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:58,119
it's like with WrestleMania, I've been conditioned like I'm fine

891
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,159
wrestling five hours because like I know, it's it's a

892
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:01,960
big thing. I'm just saying my long term pitch. I

893
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,039
agree with everyone else. Honestly, Luckily it happened because poor

894
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,119
Chompa fucking had to shave his beard today because he

895
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:09,800
split his chin open like yeah, terrible, like and he

896
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,880
showed the gash. She was bad. But this is a

897
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,519
situation that yeah, they should have had the TLC here

898
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,840
and then New Day and Viking areas in the raw

899
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,679
after Like I get it, NuDay had that hot promo,

900
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:22,360
but even the crowd stopped caring because you know why,

901
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,199
Like we said on the Predictions, everyone's figured out that, oh,

902
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,800
Biggie's not coming back again anytime soon. That was the hope,

903
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,480
right was maybe it's Rumble, maybe it's WrestleMania. Now it's like, oh,

904
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:33,960
he's just gonna get back whenever or maybe never. Right,

905
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,960
So I think people don't care as much. And yeah,

906
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,639
sure NuDay hasn't won a while, so some fine, But

907
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,360
I would have swapped them put the TLC here, especially

908
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,840
on this night they could that could have used the

909
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,320
TLC were after Jane Gunthar and then you had like

910
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:48,679
yeah and to me, like we'll get to like Algrande,

911
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,280
Red Phoenix was like good enough, but and Jade and Bianca.

912
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,039
If you would have had TLC here on this match

913
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,440
or this card, I think it would have helped big time.

914
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,199
I think the crowd would have really got woken and

915
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,719
fire Up and especially could have placed it better. But yeah,

916
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,960
I thought, like what ess just said, a raw main event,

917
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:05,920
so better than like an average tag match, But wasn't.

918
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,440
This is definitely in that lack of WrestleMania field. This

919
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:10,639
is one of those where I will not remember this

920
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,239
in a couple of weeks when we when the next gimmick,

921
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,320
I will not remember. Oh, right, that's where they won

922
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,039
the titles in.

923
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was the weakest of the matches in my opinion,

924
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,119
of all the matches tonight, this was definitely in my opinion,

925
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:25,239
it was the weakest. And like you said, I wouldn't

926
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,199
even call it a raw main event. I would call

927
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,440
this a leading into our three main event, like this

928
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,239
is this is the you know, the long match that

929
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:38,639
has the break in between, and you you get the

930
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,440
people who are coming over from like the NBA Finals

931
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,599
or something like that like this. To me, this was

932
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,400
just it was a tag team match. You know, they

933
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,320
they came out, they did their things, war Raiders had

934
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,960
their sponsorship moment, and it.

935
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: Was just the sponsorships worked on me because ever since

936
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,880
they dropped this day the update on Classic Clans, I

937
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,519
picked it up again for the first time in legitally

938
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:07,599
probably like I don't know ten years or like eight years,

939
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,639
I've been grinding Classic Clans like over the past month.

940
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, but other than that, like it was just it

941
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,920
was a tag team match and and that was it.

942
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:20,519
All it served was just to switch the championships, and

943
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,639
you know, kudos to New Day for winning it. But

944
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,000
this was there was nothing memorable about this. There was

945
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,960
nothing that's going to make me look back and say, man,

946
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,119
can you believe they did this? Or what about that

947
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,320
spot from that tag team match? It is just very forgettable.

948
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,159
Speaker 1: Any Like you said the discord, like they could have

949
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:42,039
gave a bit more budget for their gear. Their gear

950
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:44,039
looked very very plastic.

951
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,039
Speaker 3: They got that from Spirit Halloween at that point.

952
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: If I saw the gear, I've been like, we're not

953
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,519
wearing that. Just go get the regular stuff, you know,

954
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:51,559
like it just it.

955
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: Fell for the sponsorship.

956
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it that they have to.

957
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: It's just like like I like New.

958
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,119
Speaker 2: Day's Giant Gonzales gear though I like that, y.

959
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:04,599
Speaker 1: They're always on point with their gear. The New Day

960
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:08,400
they got good stuff. So hopefully it's tough, right because

961
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,159
it's I've always said this, it's very strange in the

962
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,880
NXT Black and Goal Thera, like Triple H knew how

963
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,159
to Like the tag division was a huge point, like

964
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,119
they may invented multiple takeovers. That was a huge thing

965
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:24,239
you could argue like obviously aop has gone out, but

966
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,400
aop D y FTR, you know, revival back then and

967
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,480
a few others like obviously had end Zone casts like

968
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:33,440
they were May eventing shows. They had big stuff Match

969
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,519
of the Years, and there's just something I don't know

970
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,079
if he doesn't do them, if he's handing them off.

971
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:38,880
There's just something about Triple H. The May roster tags,

972
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,519
it's not delivered. Because we thought, okay, Judgment Day, that's

973
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:43,320
the hold up, right, But when they lost the Viking Raiders,

974
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,960
I thought we were all kind of on board, like, okay,

975
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,840
they could really spruce up the tag team division here

976
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,760
again and it didn't really like they'd be on raw

977
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,239
here and there. But just they got really nothing of

978
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,639
note until like this and then they lose. So at

979
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,320
least the New Day, I know, WW and Triple H

980
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,960
I they care about the New Day. That's a historical acts.

981
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,840
So hopefully this will happen, but like something at least

982
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,440
a SmackDown, Okay, SmackDown. The vision all says some problems

983
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,519
like the DQ finished and the weird Rumble one, but

984
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:11,760
at least we like there is like a theme and

985
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,400
a story with those three teams. Raw, it's been very nothing,

986
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:18,599
so I don't know. I'm hoping something happens here, bring

987
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,519
up an XT people, I don't know, but anything else

988
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:22,119
on when?

989
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's definitely gonna I

990
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:28,239
mean practicing or coming to one of these these shows.

991
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: Please, yeah, get him on RAW right away and let

992
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,360
them a new Daid. Just do like a best of

993
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,639
five series for a while and just rock with that

994
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,519
or something, you know.

995
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I want.

996
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, because we had that in the next that

997
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,880
was Jane Bianca. I suppose I'll let you start. What

998
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,480
did you think about this one? Big Blood for you've

999
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:49,559
been billing for a while, Jade's first single, not first

1000
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:52,519
singles match for singles pay per view match, first ever

1001
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,800
women's single match with no titles. So grats these two

1002
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,239
ladies for said in history, But yeah, what do you

1003
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:56,880
think about this one?

1004
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. It was the expected winner, and I

1005
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,239
thought there's some some cool stuff in there, like that

1006
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:09,679
electric chair power bomb was like wild, some good power

1007
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,920
spots in there, and I enjoyed it definitely. Yeah, I

1008
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:15,199
kind of wish feels like a little more. But I still,

1009
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:17,360
like I said, there's no match on the show that

1010
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,519
I would like fail, so I'd say it was still

1011
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:23,079
probably like I don't know, like I don't do don't

1012
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:25,880
I try not to do like point five ratings or

1013
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,119
like point two fives. But I guess this would be

1014
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:30,920
that I don't know, like a three point five ish

1015
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,320
ure three point twenty five, I don't know somewhere on there.

1016
00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:36,320
I like the whole Naomi. I like this whole proceed

1017
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,559
with caution thing she's she's doing with the I like

1018
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,719
the entrance and all the colors and stuff, the caution

1019
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,320
tape and uh yeah.

1020
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,519
Speaker 1: Heavy metal theme for which is completely different.

1021
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: You know, did not expect that.

1022
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: No, which is great, like you should do because her

1023
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,480
heal like the let's go. You can't you can't have

1024
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:57,000
that with me.

1025
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: She still had the glow shoes on she did.

1026
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,039
Speaker 1: Did you notice her ring time tron was still the's like,

1027
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:07,320
see what's what happened to me? In two K?

1028
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: When I'm making my entry, I can't find the right

1029
00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:10,559
the right, so I.

1030
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: Just have different Yeah, what will you da? What do

1031
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,519
you think of this match? This match?

1032
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was good. There were some

1033
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:23,880
flaws exposed with Jade, for sure. I was a little

1034
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,679
bit disappointed. I know it's stupid, but I was disappointed

1035
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,320
by her entrance. I felt like, for the weather report,

1036
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,119
she should have come out full storm with the entrance.

1037
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:34,440
I don't know, like if this is one of those

1038
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:34,960
things for.

1039
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,199
Speaker 1: Me, the opening to it, the guy like you're they're

1040
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,320
going for me, Just it didn't gel well with the entrance.

1041
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, if you're gonna do it, then

1042
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,320
you have to go full stop. And they did not

1043
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:51,400
go full stop with this, so that be said. I'm

1044
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:55,519
just it was. It was all right. I would probably

1045
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:59,079
put it as my second least favorite match of the night.

1046
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,719
It was a pretty dedictable ending in my opinion. I

1047
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,280
felt like Jade had to go over. It did not

1048
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:09,159
have the urgency of what is supposed to be a

1049
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,840
just straight up I want to kick your ass for

1050
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,639
what you did to me, and both of them were

1051
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,480
talking about how much they wanted to just get at

1052
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:20,119
each other and how much they were going to beat

1053
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:22,239
down each other and everything else and then they go

1054
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:28,000
in and you're locking up for a traditional color Nabel

1055
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,159
tie up, Like, that's not what I want to see

1056
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,280
out of this match, So it felt short in a

1057
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,320
lot of areas. Jade looked great on her power spots,

1058
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,760
but in her non power spots there were some weaknesses exposed.

1059
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:43,599
And just like I said in the last episode of

1060
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,920
the Gimmick, what they need to do with her is

1061
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:48,320
put one of the mid car titles on her. Either

1062
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:52,559
let it be the Intercontinental or the Women's US, and

1063
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,239
let her just go on a power run where she

1064
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,320
is just beating people with pure power. I do not

1065
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,519
need to see Jade in a wrestling match, not right now.

1066
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,239
Give her a couple of months behind the scene.

1067
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: That's on the harshest. I'm not saying you're wrong, but

1068
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,280
just like what a critique like this woman's now like

1069
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,599
going in her fourth year wrestling, I don't need to

1070
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:13,960
see her.

1071
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: She needs to be Goldberg.

1072
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:22,559
Speaker 3: She needs to be Goldberg because twenty years later, Goldberg

1073
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:26,599
still couldn't handle the long drawn out wrestling matches. She

1074
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,519
just needs to be Goldberg and that be okay.

1075
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: And it's funny because that's what aw did with it. Right,

1076
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,840
but yeah, always the thing like, well they're training her,

1077
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:36,719
and then like when the w W, it's like, well

1078
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,920
they're training her and eventually is gonna get better. I

1079
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:42,199
think w or AW did crack the code of that's

1080
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,800
what you can do there. To me, this was the

1081
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,280
I I think in the way we talked about how

1082
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,119
with Charlotte Reea the first time on the Predictions, David,

1083
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,360
You're like, oh, you know, in retrospect, it was fine

1084
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,599
with Rhea losing that match, but she shouldn't lost back then.

1085
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,199
I feel like we might feel like this way with

1086
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,400
Naomi and Jade, because I don't know when three years

1087
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,639
were Jade's gonna be and we might look and be like, man,

1088
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,599
they should have had Naomi win this. To me, after

1089
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:07,000
this match, I think I give it. I can give

1090
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,159
it a three, but as being being kind, I think

1091
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:11,000
I was lower on it than you guys. Just stuff

1092
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:13,360
like that electric chair power bomb was cool, but the

1093
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,519
problem was she did that and then she grabbed Naomi

1094
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:17,639
by the head and started talking to her. And you

1095
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:19,679
can tell Naomi like said, go to the finish something

1096
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,000
like like it's the finish spot and you're asking Naomi,

1097
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:24,719
like what we do next then they win to the

1098
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,000
move and I don't know if there's a screw up,

1099
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,440
but it's just like that stuff where it's just she

1100
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:30,599
is going on and I could be even wrong, could

1101
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:32,440
be longer, but it's like she's going her fourth year.

1102
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,480
I just don't know what more now, Like I think

1103
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:39,239
this spot exposed her a lot, and I like even

1104
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,760
the I think, yeah, a mid cart title now to

1105
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,000
me is like the cap unless you do really goal

1106
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:46,480
work her. But yeah, this type of these matches, you

1107
00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:48,960
can't do them. She can't wrestle the way I think

1108
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000
they had a little intensely when they went to the floor.

1109
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:53,400
I like Naomi like hit multiple floor moves to take

1110
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,679
her out, but just even stuff like her selling. I

1111
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,519
remember when Naomi went to the top rope, and I

1112
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:00,519
know all wrestlers stand there, but Jade really just like

1113
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,800
she's so much time. It's like she's waiting for the

1114
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,360
next spot. I've seen Jade have some really like i'll say,

1115
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,559
greatly paced her book matches, but yeah, there's just something.

1116
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:11,679
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you don't want to have her

1117
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,880
like just doing tag team stuff, you can have her

1118
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,719
in triple threats and for it's like something like Oba Femi,

1119
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,159
Like he's a good I'd say he's a great wrestler,

1120
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,480
but something they do, Like if you look at a

1121
00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:25,920
lot of his big matches, almost all of them are

1122
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:28,880
multi like triple threat. He's the king of triple threats.

1123
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,360
Like I'm pretty sure like ninety percent of his title

1124
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,400
defenses have been like triple threats. Because it's not that

1125
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,960
he's bad, but it's like having multiple people to work

1126
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:41,320
off of, Like when your big thing is the power spots, like, yeah,

1127
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,880
you can split that time between other people, and I

1128
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,039
think you can do that with Jade, Like she can

1129
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:48,679
do her spots, then that get taken out. You can

1130
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,599
do power spots with two people. That's the classic one

1131
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,239
and it always looks great and she can do that

1132
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,880
stuff that she can't do and people like when she

1133
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,079
does the power spots, people like it. So it's like

1134
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:00,800
you just have the lean into that.

1135
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: You know what they should do. The companies don't have

1136
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,199
enough title. They should create a triple threat Championship for

1137
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,800
Jay just to give you her I've always tinkered with that.

1138
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,360
I wish there was like a way I kind of do.

1139
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: That the title division, yeah.

1140
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, no for me, this one, I was

1141
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,800
disappointed and I was I know, you guys will say

1142
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:23,079
the expected winner. I thought that too, but still my predictions.

1143
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:25,400
I went with Naomi because I thought, oh, there's gonna

1144
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,360
be a chance of a sneak win and uh, like

1145
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,360
I said, we'll see. But I think in retrospect, Naomi

1146
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:33,039
should have won that because I think Naomi she had

1147
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:34,960
to carry this match tonight. She did a lot of

1148
00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:39,239
work for Jayden. All I'm hoping for now is I

1149
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,760
hope that Triph and the team have plans for Naomi

1150
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,000
because if she won, I go okay, for sure, she's

1151
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,440
gonna go to a title or whatever. She better not

1152
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,320
just kind of drop off and go away, because she's

1153
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,719
been doing great character work and this food was a

1154
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,880
really people talk about the weaker build Dobania. This was

1155
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,840
one that wasn't a weak build, and I don't think

1156
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,480
Naomi should go away or just kind of be like

1157
00:50:57,559 --> 00:50:59,920
floundering around. She should at least be in the mid cards.

1158
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:01,760
That is somewhere eve like.

1159
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:05,599
Speaker 2: It's still they're still in that sort of circle with

1160
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,400
Bianca and stuff. Yeel like there's stuff you can still

1161
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:08,840
do there.

1162
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and give her BEYONC. I hope that happens again.

1163
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,599
We'll see tomorrow. Maybe Yonka gets a title and you

1164
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:15,719
can do it that way, but uh no, we'll we'll see.

1165
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,480
Uh And then after that we this one. We got

1166
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:21,159
La and Jake up right, yes, yeah, yeah, And this

1167
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,800
this for me until the main event was my match night,

1168
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,000
I had sound predictions that hey, this could be a

1169
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,360
styles clash. I know everyone just fucking loves Jacob Fauto

1170
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,280
and I do too, but like I still like, hey,

1171
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,440
there's many great wrestlers that can just not work right.

1172
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,440
And I just said an l A Knight. He I

1173
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:39,440
think he's a good worker, but there's many We've seen

1174
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,000
many times where she's like, oh, this is a fine match.

1175
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:44,000
Like he can be not stiff in the sense like

1176
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,920
he's actually hurting them, just like he can move robotic.

1177
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:50,199
Speaker 2: Sometimes he has like his routine, like it's not like

1178
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,239
it's not like like five minutes of doom, but it's

1179
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,239
like you kind of know the stuff he can do and.

1180
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,559
Speaker 3: Even got his paces.

1181
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like even last year I think him in

1182
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,159
ag had a good match, but it wasn't anything like,

1183
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,159
oh man, I really think about it. But this is

1184
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,039
one they almost sole the show to the main event,

1185
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:08,000
and that's tough because those are three elite workers. But

1186
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:10,480
they went out there and I love that even La

1187
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:12,920
like I think he was moving different and it just

1188
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:15,840
was very high octane and high pace. It felt like

1189
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,559
a It felt like a better, longer version of a

1190
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:21,880
speed match, where like that that's there was just like

1191
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,800
going there, gripping, ripping. I think this work, and I

1192
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,039
think the crowd really needed this. At this point, they

1193
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:28,840
were doing cool spots of el and the BT, but

1194
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,480
the one I love was Jacob when he put him

1195
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:32,559
on the ropes. I think he's done this before, but

1196
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:34,320
I haven't seen as much something I was familiar with

1197
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,840
him his work, but when he like ran up the

1198
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,000
ropes jumped and then like did the elbow truck like,

1199
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:42,280
they did some good high impact stuff and what I

1200
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:42,760
was surprised.

1201
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: There was one thing I really liked to before he

1202
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,239
goes like they always do the spot of like Jacob

1203
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,880
five two takes the move and he like gets up

1204
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:54,320
a lot quicker than other people knew. So when he

1205
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:56,880
like Ellen Night put him down, I forget what and

1206
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,280
he climbed up to do like the yeah, elbow drop

1207
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:03,119
and Jacob, you had already gone up, but then he's

1208
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:05,840
still like mid air and he like side hit him

1209
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,119
with the elbow. Yeah.

1210
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it feels weird, but it felt like

1211
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,239
a legitimate like fighting like a wrestling world right, Like

1212
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,480
it felt like more of a brawl but into a match,

1213
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:19,239
and Noah was really good and uh yeah, they completely

1214
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,360
clean finished. Solo was out there. When I saw Sol

1215
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,159
the ram, I'm like, oh my predictions, right, Jacob's fucking

1216
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:26,639
losing right now, it's over because second Soul is out there,

1217
00:53:26,679 --> 00:53:29,920
there's no way Souls doing nothing. But he did like nothing.

1218
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,679
He's like, yeah, go get him, and then he walked back.

1219
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,960
It's like, really, I got you, bro. Yeah. It's so

1220
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:37,880
weird too because even on SmackDown last night, like Toma

1221
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,719
Tong and Soul like came to the arena together, but

1222
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,480
like Solo or Jacob wasn't with him. Like it's this weird,

1223
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:45,800
like they can't decide as Jacob with him not. But no,

1224
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,719
this was a happily surprised me and I I would

1225
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,920
take this again, but I would actually taste like give

1226
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,079
them like a street fight stip something like that. Like

1227
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:56,920
I was very surprised, and now I'm curious what they

1228
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,199
do with La Knight because La Knight when he didn't

1229
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:01,480
have the US title last time, he was really just

1230
00:54:01,559 --> 00:54:05,400
kind of floating around. So I don't know, let's see,

1231
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,000
I guess you could you know what you could do.

1232
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:09,440
I would take La and Seen as a program. If

1233
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,119
if Scena can get one of those you know, other

1234
00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:13,599
pay per view side ones after backlash like.

1235
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:16,599
Speaker 2: That, I mean, maybe that's one. That's maybe the one

1236
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:18,880
I'm going to. Maybe I get that at a Saturday

1237
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:19,480
Nights NA.

1238
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,079
Speaker 1: Great Nights event or this guy. I actually think because

1239
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,440
Jay has the title, I think actually put the money

1240
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:27,199
bank on l A Night this time because the crowd

1241
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,440
still loves them. And this was a really good p

1242
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,239
This was a.

1243
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: Mess of two guys who are both like it's a

1244
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,840
very clear like it's kind of weird because like Ellen

1245
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,519
Knight was the face and Jacob was the heel, but

1246
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:42,440
it was like they're both sober that people are cheering.

1247
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah for both. And the thing though, too was like

1248
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,719
I took about predictions. It was almost more like a

1249
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,800
fifty to fifty where I was worried, like the crowd

1250
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,000
was hot for Jacob, but I was worried they would

1251
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:53,079
turn on LA and they didn't. They're still with them,

1252
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:55,639
so it's like proven commandity. Like I said to me,

1253
00:54:55,679 --> 00:54:56,800
I'm like, put the briefcase on.

1254
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: In my opinion, this was definitely a fifty to fifty crowd.

1255
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,440
Last we spoke, I thought that LA was going to

1256
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,639
win it, and then after SmackDown completely changed my mind.

1257
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,199
I did not expect Jacobatu to go over clean, but

1258
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,159
I mean, they put on a great match, and I

1259
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:17,920
will agree with you.

1260
00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:18,599
Speaker 1: It is.

1261
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 3: My second favorite match of the night. I've got it

1262
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,119
ranked at number two behind the main event, and they

1263
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,920
they just they put on They over delivered for the

1264
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:33,920
expectations that I had. I thought it was going to

1265
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:36,559
be a simple match, and then I thought that we

1266
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:39,559
would get the bloodline interference and all that other stuff

1267
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,199
and that's how it was going to end. But no,

1268
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,599
they just put up a shitit match. The crowd was

1269
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,079
hot for both of them the entire time. There was

1270
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,320
no back and forth, Oh we like this guy, now

1271
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,960
we're like no. It was a good fifty to fifty

1272
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:56,239
crowd throughout the whole thing. People were cheering for both

1273
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:02,360
Jacobatu really played heavily on those no cell moments he

1274
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,280
has where you can just see him the street anger

1275
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,239
in him fired up, and he have his moments where

1276
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,400
he was just looking down the camera and I was like,

1277
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,360
this is absolute Sema. I'm I'm loving what these guys

1278
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,960
are doing. This match did not feel too short or

1279
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:21,599
too long. It was just a genuinely good match where

1280
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:23,920
they both just over delivered.

1281
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: And please and his defenses give him a bunch of workers.

1282
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:27,880
I know where I have to sit through one more.

1283
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna.

1284
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: Like that's the way. There is a way where it's

1285
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,400
like it's it's I feel like it's.

1286
00:56:42,159 --> 00:56:45,159
Speaker 2: I feel like realistic is like in between like you're

1287
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:48,400
gonna get Ron, You're gonna get You're gonna get Vice,

1288
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:51,960
Like is gonna get killed. You're gonna you're gonna mis

1289
00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:55,519
killed by him. So then Mellow is like it's like Mellow,

1290
00:56:55,559 --> 00:56:56,440
you have to fight him now.

1291
00:57:03,039 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm fussing out a key verse clip there. That's me

1292
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,280
if I gotta sit through the miss and Jacob kid

1293
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:13,599
get it unless it's a thirty second squash, No, Like,

1294
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,320
my god, like there's a path to Jacob having the

1295
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,239
best US title reign the last ten years or just

1296
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,519
like they're lumping them with the worst, like I said,

1297
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:26,559
like Mellow black on Drade Ray Phoenix, like you gotta

1298
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:30,039
fucking killers that they could just tear like they said Russive,

1299
00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:32,480
like you have so many people or you have mis

1300
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:36,320
Stroman solo Tomatonga Tonga.

1301
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: Loa imagine one handicap man.

1302
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:47,599
Speaker 3: Imagine Jacobar tou versus the God's favorite version of rusive

1303
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:53,000
that we saw in aw God Absolute Bangers. I need

1304
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:53,880
that in my life.

1305
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: Jacob versus Page.

1306
00:57:58,119 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'll take youth the page. I'm not eating Page,

1307
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,320
so I'll take it.

1308
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:05,599
Speaker 2: That'll be when you know miss Low blows mellow and

1309
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:06,480
he joins up with.

1310
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:09,559
Speaker 1: You gave me flashbacks when you said, like, oh the

1311
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:10,840
two for one, this is what they're gonna do, the

1312
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,800
fucking Jacob. They're gonna have Jacob to finish its missing

1313
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:22,079
Universal Championship match. Oh my god, please no, yeah, yeah,

1314
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:25,400
coming up, it's coming on. It's missing all I won

1315
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,239
the Andre but we'll see. I'm just hoping. Please Triple

1316
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,679
h row Dog, whoever's booking SmackDown, just let Jacob just

1317
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,679
go make it the Workers title because the Icy title

1318
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:37,800
will see Like if Dom gets that, that's like the

1319
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,400
fun Heally Championship. You said, I'll make Jacob just go,

1320
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,119
just make them like Umonga, just go and have bangers.

1321
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:48,199
But we'll see like again every week, have Jacob main

1322
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,800
eventing SmackDown with some great stuff. I don't know, I'm

1323
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:53,880
probably being too happy about it, but any also on

1324
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,079
Jacob ar Ely Knight, I'm just just a.

1325
00:58:57,159 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: Really great manch like I said, they they over delivered.

1326
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm I'm looking at the SmackDown roster now. Uh, like

1327
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:09,800
we said, you're gonna have your bronze strowman match. I

1328
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:16,159
could see him going against Andrade. You know you got

1329
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,719
Drew who can bounce back between the main card and

1330
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:24,960
the mid card. I would love if the Street Prophets

1331
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,920
dropped the tag titles, then have Montese Forward go against him,

1332
00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:30,880
like you You've got options there.

1333
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,159
Speaker 1: You're still wait for that montes Ford singles run to show.

1334
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:38,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still waiting waiting on Montese that to get

1335
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:38,719
his push.

1336
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: So, man, I can't believe on the post show, but

1337
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:43,960
he actually said this is a quote. The company I

1338
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,960
think was trying to position Solo as the guy Jacob

1339
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:49,960
thought to was just undeniable. It's different for US fans

1340
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:50,360
to say that.

1341
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:54,719
Speaker 2: It was like the backstage report before Jacob even debuted,

1342
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,760
like they didn't want to debut because they thought he

1343
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,559
would just completely overshadow Solo and he And.

1344
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: Here's my thing too, Like I talked about like I'm

1345
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,719
not a I'm not I guess I'm a Solo defender

1346
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:08,159
in the sense that I don't think he's as bad

1347
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:11,079
as people think. I do understand I've seen matches like oof.

1348
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,599
But my problem is even to me and Jake Woo goes,

1349
01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:15,760
oh if that could not be good. But the thing

1350
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,280
is that you had him in all those main event

1351
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,559
programs in the summer, he lost with those feuds, and

1352
01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:22,000
then other than appearing Jacob's engines who really did nothing,

1353
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:24,679
Solo's yeah, he's dead in the water now because at

1354
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,239
least would live. For me, it was like, you gotta

1355
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,639
have like your summer main events. You can't just forget

1356
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:31,079
about them, because then it makes people feel like those

1357
01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:34,280
really long months between many a season, it's like, oh,

1358
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:36,400
it doesn't matter who's the main people now because they're

1359
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,400
gonna go away. Because that was a big vincism that

1360
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:41,000
you'd have all these people then Brock Taker, Triple h

1361
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:43,199
would all come back for their Mania matches, and be like, oh,

1362
01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:45,320
so all the people I invest in for you are gone.

1363
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,639
Solo I think is one of those were Live at

1364
01:00:47,719 --> 01:00:49,960
least Live is getting a wrestled Mania match tomorrow.

1365
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: Solo.

1366
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: Nothing. This guy made event Summer Slam. He challenged for

1367
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:54,960
the title, He main invented the or he didn't. But

1368
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,920
he had that still cage match with Cody at the

1369
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,960
Debut Network thing. It's just like it, it's crazy word.

1370
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,800
So it's just like, sure he'll have a match with Jacob,

1371
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,760
but yeah, I think he's yeah, he maybe there's a

1372
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,760
takele run in his future.

1373
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: I think he'll just kind of just be around, Like

1374
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,079
I don't think he's getting sent to anything. But yeah,

1375
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:16,440
but it's just like me. He'll be hang around, he'll

1376
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,360
do his backstage segments, he'll do his Our Truth segments,

1377
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,760
he'll be on speed. You know, he'll hang out.

1378
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,639
Speaker 1: He'll get a calmedy take team with Our Truth and David.

1379
01:01:26,719 --> 01:01:28,679
That's a horrifying image. You can join our discord to

1380
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,360
see these images. But speaking of, we have El Grande

1381
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:37,800
Americano versus Ray Phoenix because Monster. Unfortunately, man, this is

1382
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,760
what fucking sucks. Just wrestling just a six man to

1383
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,599
promote your match and he gets injured, and it like

1384
01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:45,000
we all kind of knew that because I was sharing

1385
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,360
you guys those clips where he didn't get injured. The

1386
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,719
matches a storyline. When they won the match, he wasn't

1387
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,360
even in there. People were checking them after and everyone's like, uh,

1388
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,719
And my thought was, I thought they were gonna push

1389
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,639
this tonight too and see if Ray could make it.

1390
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,639
But clearly his leg must be that bad enough to

1391
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,199
and hopefully it's something too serious.

1392
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like he was he was walking around today,

1393
01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:07,039
So hopefully it's not like like too bad.

1394
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hopefully so, but clearly not enough to wrestle.

1395
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,599
Speaker 2: It just like it's always the simple like it was

1396
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:14,880
literally just they pulled him out of the ring by

1397
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,800
the leg and that, yeah, what did it? Yeah?

1398
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: So yeah we got Ray Phoenix instead, you know, had

1399
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,159
no Wrestlelmanta gear, so he found like a cool lucha

1400
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,760
jack and stuff and you know what could Again we

1401
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,159
talked about kudos story Phoenix where he's been there for

1402
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:29,880
a couple of weeks, like a fish on the roster

1403
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,800
already wrestlemingting.

1404
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,639
Speaker 2: Match l twenty four hours notice.

1405
01:02:33,639 --> 01:02:37,239
Speaker 1: And that's why for me, this match, like all g

1406
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:39,519
not at all bad match. I think this was like

1407
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:41,960
a good this like to me, like a good SmackDown

1408
01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:43,599
raw match to me. And but that's why I'm fine

1409
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:45,920
that because like they had less than twenty four hours,

1410
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,599
it's mania. I'm sure they would have done stuff. We

1411
01:02:48,679 --> 01:02:51,760
had some crazy moments like fucking Chad Gables whatever the

1412
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:56,679
four Factory, Yeah that fuck you. Ray Phoenix definitely got

1413
01:02:56,679 --> 01:02:58,639
the air knocked out of him because you could see

1414
01:02:58,719 --> 01:02:59,679
Chad for a second he like.

1415
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,159
Speaker 2: Starting, yeah, he hit one of those like what Jeff

1416
01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:08,440
Party called this his crew ton bombs or he just someone.

1417
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: I think Chad was like, I think I've broken this

1418
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,360
guy's rib. And then after they do the penny kicked

1419
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,440
out and the ref checked on Ray. But you can

1420
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,360
see he's like, yeah, I'm good, but you can just

1421
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,800
tell he was like I'm hurting right now, like but

1422
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,800
kudos to them. And yeah, there's a couple of moments

1423
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,920
Ray can fucking you know, we almost he can go.

1424
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,639
He I think this was another good thing. It didn't

1425
01:03:25,639 --> 01:03:28,679
reach La and Jacob, but like they kept the the

1426
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,360
fan anticipation shop because Ray's doing all these cool flips

1427
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,760
and stuff. And also the PM seen, right, they haven't

1428
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,159
watched you know, uh fucking aw, they haven't watched the

1429
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,519
show underground Luke underground. Like there's tons of people that

1430
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:44,800
still have only seen three matches of this dude. So

1431
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,920
I thought this was a salt match. Circumstances, you know,

1432
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:49,119
made it what it was.

1433
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they still were able to do the forehead spot.

1434
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:55,599
They just changed it. Like I said, I thought they

1435
01:03:55,639 --> 01:03:56,880
were gonna do it with the six one nine and

1436
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,480
said they did it with the uh they kick off

1437
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:03,800
the rogue that Ray Phoenix stermly does. I will say this,

1438
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:07,119
I would have loved to see what kind of entrance

1439
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,360
Ray Phoenix would have had had they had more than

1440
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,760
twenty four hours to prepare. That was the one thing

1441
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,000
that I was like, Man, I bet you for his

1442
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:17,519
first WrestleMania, he would have come up with a dope

1443
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,840
entrance had he had more than just oh, hey, you

1444
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,119
know what you're going in tomorrow.

1445
01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least got some Pyro in the back, you know,

1446
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,639
the Red Pyron got it out there.

1447
01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:29,719
Speaker 2: So you think El Grande's going to the Triple A

1448
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,039
to fight VI Kingo on these days.

1449
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: Well they set that up big time because like he

1450
01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:38,079
was like Vi Kingo kicked him and at the end

1451
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:40,400
of that, like it was so weird the way they

1452
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,800
had Vi Kingo like pause with Ray Fenix and it

1453
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,840
felt like accept a heel turn. I know that was

1454
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,000
gonna happen, but they.

1455
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: Didn't really thought. I thought he was gonna do like

1456
01:04:48,679 --> 01:04:51,960
in the match with Bandito, like he was gonna tell

1457
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,039
the ref like I saw him put the plate in

1458
01:04:54,239 --> 01:04:56,159
like restart this match or something.

1459
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: So so, yeah, we didn't talk about this. They have

1460
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,599
acquired it. It's weird because they've talked about this all

1461
01:05:01,679 --> 01:05:04,199
throughout the program. Sometimes they said partnership and acquired. It

1462
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,239
is acquired, but sometimes they said partnership. It's like, no,

1463
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,480
you fucking bought them. You didn't like it's not so

1464
01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:10,079
I kept.

1465
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,599
Speaker 3: Saying, which is it? I need you guys to stick

1466
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:16,159
with the theme here. You're either partnering or you acquired,

1467
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:17,519
like one or the other.

1468
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: There's still not much info about it. I think it

1469
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:23,519
was I forget if it was Genre Sap or Dave

1470
01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:25,920
or someone who said, like it's been sort of in

1471
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:28,440
the works for a long time the time, yeah, yeah,

1472
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:31,559
And then with the t KO merger that really starts

1473
01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:32,599
feeding things.

1474
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: Up well, and that's the thing where we are now

1475
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,440
we talked about in our discord. But like you can,

1476
01:05:37,199 --> 01:05:38,920
that's a good thing and bad thing. Maybe I think

1477
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,400
it kind of suck. It feels very much like Xbox

1478
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,440
and PlayStation where they're buying all the studios. That's a

1479
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,119
both w A and AW are doing. They're all partnering.

1480
01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: Like ye, yeah, I saw I saw a tweet and

1481
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:54,599
I forgot to say it, but it was like it's

1482
01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:57,679
like there really is a wrestling war and there's two sides,

1483
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,599
and all the independent shows are.

1484
01:05:59,559 --> 01:06:02,239
Speaker 1: Just in the yeah, exactly right, and they're just uses

1485
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,159
like almost scouting in with wid now. So yeah, they

1486
01:06:06,239 --> 01:06:08,280
got Triple A. We'll see what happens. There's a few

1487
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,360
people there specifically at Alberto. I do not need back in,

1488
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,880
Like this is a fucking guy like had a woman

1489
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,679
tied up in the streets, Like this is not a

1490
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,760
person we need on fucking I know Dudy's had a

1491
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,199
weird week with pr, right, but there's for me at

1492
01:06:22,239 --> 01:06:25,119
least a difference of your opinion whatever as shit his

1493
01:06:25,199 --> 01:06:26,920
opinion on I think to like, hey, this guy went

1494
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,119
to trial for all these terrible things he did to

1495
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:32,239
somebody Sireya had said, like, yeah, some bad shit happened

1496
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,760
our relationship too. It's like, I hope some of these

1497
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,639
people don't make it over. I don't know what they're doing.

1498
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,559
And my pointing us back to the match is, you know,

1499
01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:42,400
good for Chad, he got like a match, but I

1500
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,400
don't know. It's just like right top of the prediction

1501
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,760
where he was last year, he's doing this now he's

1502
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,320
do shorty g It's just like, I still just wish

1503
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,840
he was just Chad Gable doing this. I guess I've

1504
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,880
said before, I'm not offended. It's tough for me because

1505
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,039
I'm a white Canadian. I can't be offended on the

1506
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,760
behalf of Mexican people. But like, I'm not offended by

1507
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,960
the gimmick, but I'm also not like I just don't

1508
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,239
care about it. It's almost it's like it's not go away.

1509
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,599
He It's just like I'm uninterested because we just know

1510
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,440
the angle here and I wish it was Chad. But

1511
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,440
good enough match. Is there anything else on this or

1512
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,679
anything you guys want to say? The Triple A stuff there?

1513
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,119
When's that show again? S Pubs is a June. They're

1514
01:07:16,159 --> 01:07:20,320
doing the World's Collide thing with the crossover, which will

1515
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,599
be interesting because like.

1516
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:24,159
Speaker 2: It looked like it was branded as like NXT, but

1517
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,199
it was also like Ray I think said, you's like

1518
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,599
gonna try and be there or something. So it may

1519
01:07:29,719 --> 01:07:32,079
just be an xc A super fight show and then

1520
01:07:32,119 --> 01:07:35,320
they just put Ray in the main event. Yeah something, And.

1521
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,599
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting too because like even there's people

1522
01:07:37,719 --> 01:07:41,400
in New Japan or cmll AW fans are much more

1523
01:07:41,519 --> 01:07:44,280
like the Marx hardcore fans, right, and they they know people,

1524
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,360
but sometimes they're like, I don't know this person. The

1525
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,440
w W audience, that's gonna be some difficult. So many

1526
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,559
people don't know a lot of it. So it's like,

1527
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,599
I I'd love to know the percentage of people that

1528
01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:56,719
are in the restume same who knew who VI Kingo was, right,

1529
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,960
Like there's tons of people that go to them had.

1530
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,519
Speaker 2: Like clipped good like he has like viral clips. I

1531
01:08:01,519 --> 01:08:03,039
don't think people know his name.

1532
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,079
Speaker 1: Exactly right, So it's gonna be interesting to see. But yeah,

1533
01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:07,320
we're in that state, we're both collectors.

1534
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: In his full gear and just the announcing he was

1535
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:11,760
doing pock mode.

1536
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: There, Okay, then after this this, after I'm pretty sure

1537
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:20,399
which we talked to when we got that.

1538
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,520
Speaker 2: I think it really only went to night time for

1539
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,439
the main event.

1540
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had again. I don't get me wrong. Again

1541
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,079
love Triple h He's one of I don't know if

1542
01:08:30,119 --> 01:08:32,159
he's my top ten, but he might be. I've not

1543
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:32,880
done my top ten.

1544
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,079
Speaker 3: Well, go on, hold on real quick. I just looked

1545
01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:40,600
up Triple A's roster. It includes Matt Riddle.

1546
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,239
Speaker 2: I don't think he's actually on the he's won a

1547
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:49,000
title there, but I'm pretty sure he's like an m

1548
01:08:49,119 --> 01:08:49,920
LW guy.

1549
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a thing. Who knows who else is there?

1550
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:57,159
Speaker 3: But Raj Jesse, the former Maharasha.

1551
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: There's a lot of these people who are like I mean,

1552
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,720
like Jeff Jarrett and like those type, like he shows

1553
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,600
up in Triple A like every other week.

1554
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,119
Speaker 3: But but these these are the people who, according to

1555
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:15,960
SmackDown Hotel, who's pretty current with their listed roster, are

1556
01:09:16,119 --> 01:09:21,239
some of the big names that perform there. Now, Yeah,

1557
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:24,279
you've got other people who are on their like Murder

1558
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:28,359
Clown we're not going to see and things like that

1559
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,760
Laredo kid who had wrestled in there before and WW

1560
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,000
before is on there. But yeah, I doubt we're going

1561
01:09:36,079 --> 01:09:40,079
to see anything with albertel Patron, Like no one's going

1562
01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:42,680
to use him, even even with the.

1563
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: The TNA thing, Like they haven't done anything with Tessa

1564
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,199
or anything, so I feel like they sort of know

1565
01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:53,680
like the sort of stuff that be, Like like I don't.

1566
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,520
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, you're not going to see Murder Clown on WWTV.

1567
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: I hope, but I never know what the next year,

1568
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:01,079
a lot can happen.

1569
01:10:01,159 --> 01:10:03,359
Speaker 2: I feel like what's gonna happen more. I feel like

1570
01:10:03,399 --> 01:10:06,159
they're gonna do the big crossover show and that's gonna

1571
01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:07,920
be the big one. But I feel like a lot

1572
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,439
of time and it's just gonna be they're sending guys

1573
01:10:11,159 --> 01:10:14,399
to Triple A to do like kind of what they

1574
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,079
did the big TNA storylines, and then for a while

1575
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:20,840
they've just kind of been sending some NXT people to

1576
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,439
do TNA as like reps and stuff.

1577
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so we'll see. They did the Hall of

1578
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,920
Fame walk out again. I loved Traubleach, thought his speech

1579
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,000
was great last night. Just weird he's coming out for

1580
01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:34,960
Hall of Fame. He doesn't need to open the show again.

1581
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 3: He narrows it was no Luger for the Hall of Fame. Walkout.

1582
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,319
Speaker 1: I bet they might be saving him for tomorrow because

1583
01:10:40,319 --> 01:10:41,800
I wonder if he can only do one, because he

1584
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,680
even said that in his speech where so he he

1585
01:10:45,319 --> 01:10:47,039
I can't rememberf it was a wheelchair. They helped him out,

1586
01:10:47,039 --> 01:10:48,680
but they helped him to the podium and he stood.

1587
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:51,079
But he said even in his speech that the plan

1588
01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:52,920
was for him to do a walk from the stage

1589
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,239
to the podium, but he had it fall at the airport.

1590
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,600
So he said that, like that's what really messed him up.

1591
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,600
So it could be that situation where he like that fall.

1592
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,680
Maybe maybe he was just fine for the speech, but

1593
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,079
then after that it's gonna be you know. So that's

1594
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:06,840
my predictions. Maybe just because they usually they do do

1595
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,760
them on both nights for some reason. That's why it's

1596
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,399
like Trip's gonna come out, spit again. Love that they

1597
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,199
didn't have another camera, so he spat, and then the

1598
01:11:13,319 --> 01:11:15,920
camera's covered in water, so they're going by all the

1599
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,319
feel is covered the water. But again, like, man, you're

1600
01:11:18,319 --> 01:11:19,560
coming out for Hall of Fame. You don't need to

1601
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,640
come out night one and be like it's right. I

1602
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,600
understood wrestulating in forty that's a that's a big one.

1603
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,720
But he narrates the video. He comes out, It's like, man, like,

1604
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,920
we get it. Man, we get you are running. You're

1605
01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:33,199
the leader of the fucking ship. I get it. I

1606
01:11:33,279 --> 01:11:35,560
got And he's ending the press conference right now, like

1607
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:36,520
he is all.

1608
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,159
Speaker 3: He's been ending the press conference for the last thirty

1609
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:39,800
five minutes.

1610
01:11:40,399 --> 01:11:41,159
Speaker 1: Oh has he been.

1611
01:11:41,239 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 3: Wow?

1612
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm excited to listen to later the best restumated. But yeah,

1613
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,159
so we got that and then yeah, we talked about

1614
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:48,600
Sharon and Tiffany, and then we got the main event,

1615
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,000
which some great entrances all around.

1616
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 3: We talked about punk entrance was incredible, and I Set's

1617
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,600
entrance got me because when he first came out, I

1618
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,399
was like, oh, well, this is lame. Then he has

1619
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,199
the flame throw on like Rock's already done this but okay,

1620
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,239
and then the lights they had.

1621
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:07,239
Speaker 2: The at WW World they have the Rock sign.

1622
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,119
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and I'm like hat like the lights go

1623
01:12:11,279 --> 01:12:14,359
out and they hit him with the white and he's

1624
01:12:14,399 --> 01:12:18,479
got the Jesus sunglasses uh with the crown of thorns

1625
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,920
of them, and I'm like, bravo, bro.

1626
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: The screen black, just like pure black, not even like darkness.

1627
01:12:25,279 --> 01:12:27,359
I was like, did he like it's that on fire?

1628
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:28,680
Or something like what's going on?

1629
01:12:30,039 --> 01:12:33,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we had that, but the punk thing was

1630
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,359
Punk was amazing that entry.

1631
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1632
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:38,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go back to the very first promo and

1633
01:12:38,279 --> 01:12:40,279
then you have fire Burns, good stuff.

1634
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. I liked the piano version of this fire Burns

1635
01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:48,680
that was behind it before they went into the actual music.

1636
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,720
Like at first it's starting and I hear the piano

1637
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,279
and I was like, wait a minute, that's this fire Burns.

1638
01:12:53,319 --> 01:12:54,880
And then they go into the real thing. I'm like, oh,

1639
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,560
this is just amazing.

1640
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,319
Speaker 2: It's kind of like what they did that one time

1641
01:13:00,359 --> 01:13:03,600
with Drew McIntyre where they had like a promo video

1642
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,640
before his entrance with the what's the name of Broken Dreams?

1643
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,039
Oh yeah, and then they went into like his his

1644
01:13:10,199 --> 01:13:12,760
normal entrance. But I mean, I see with Living Color though,

1645
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,479
that was great. Yeah.

1646
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: No, I remember because like legitimately I got choked up

1647
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,960
because like, punk is one of my guys. He's like

1648
01:13:20,399 --> 01:13:22,920
of that last era when I was a wrestling junkie

1649
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,239
watching indies and watching ROH And I remember in Canada

1650
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,920
the ECW version, like the do D version, it was

1651
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,600
like at one am on our channel here like on

1652
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,680
the Tuesday, we didn't get regularly and I remember seeing

1653
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,199
Punk was gonna be on and I stayed up late

1654
01:13:37,319 --> 01:13:39,199
on a school night to watch that. I remember that

1655
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,279
that promo of like I'm seeing punk and I'm addicted

1656
01:13:42,319 --> 01:13:44,479
to pro wrest like and it works. It's like a

1657
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,359
cheesy promo. It works as punk the way he is, like,

1658
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,079
I don't drink it. But like I remember sitting there

1659
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,680
watching that, like I had to see that lie. So

1660
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,319
the fact they had that and had him redo all

1661
01:13:53,359 --> 01:13:56,119
his promos again, I go back and forth on the

1662
01:13:56,159 --> 01:13:58,399
rest of me manument thing, but it's fine. It works

1663
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,359
here because you know that's what he wanted. He closed

1664
01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:03,640
off a showing a big angle and yeah, that was fantastic.

1665
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,720
Living Color was back, which that was a full circle

1666
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,000
moment for me because I said the discord last of

1667
01:14:08,079 --> 01:14:10,239
Punk wrestled the wrestleing it was the rest twenty nine.

1668
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,920
I was there for that and Living Color was there too,

1669
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,920
and that was such a great moment and there was

1670
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,239
fun stuff seeing him with Paul. It was a very

1671
01:14:17,399 --> 01:14:21,359
cool for full circle moment in classic punk. No cool

1672
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,199
like wrestling. He just has the fucking debate showed that

1673
01:14:25,239 --> 01:14:27,199
he used to wear with Paul all the time in

1674
01:14:27,239 --> 01:14:29,840
that run. You know, it's like it was perfect. So no,

1675
01:14:30,039 --> 01:14:32,720
it really felt like a like a full you know,

1676
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,159
he's made his buy two for going remarks, but it's

1677
01:14:36,199 --> 01:14:38,760
like yeah, for him, it means some of them happy again.

1678
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,079
I still would one time like next June Night tune

1679
01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:42,520
like close it, close it.

1680
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 2: But uh, I feel like there's a chance you still

1681
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,880
get that code this Punk.

1682
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I think that's definitely could be on the table. Hell,

1683
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,560
like they could stretch it out like they left on

1684
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,279
the table. I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon,

1685
01:14:55,359 --> 01:14:57,760
but like we'll get to. But like even Roman and Punk,

1686
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,479
like they they did some stuff here.

1687
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,359
Speaker 2: But he didn't take the pin. He didn't take the pit. Yeah,

1688
01:15:02,399 --> 01:15:03,159
that's the biggest thing.

1689
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:05,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, we got this main event here. At first

1690
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,039
I was worried, but I completely take it back as

1691
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:10,199
they they at the beginning had the face offs, which

1692
01:15:10,279 --> 01:15:12,960
was good, stare downs, crowd was eating it up. Crowd

1693
01:15:13,119 --> 01:15:17,760
was pretty like it was like a I don't know,

1694
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:18,640
like a.

1695
01:15:20,319 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: Thirty three.

1696
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: I definitely think said that like a little more. But

1697
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,920
they were singing. They were pretty hyped on them. But

1698
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,800
with Punk and Roman, those were the loudest, but in

1699
01:15:28,039 --> 01:15:31,079
like the after they faced off, they went to the crowd,

1700
01:15:31,239 --> 01:15:33,439
and just like last year for Night one, it's not

1701
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,399
that I hate it, but like there's times where was like,

1702
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,079
I just want to stay in the ring. Luckily, all

1703
01:15:37,119 --> 01:15:38,359
they did is they fought there and they did a

1704
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,880
circle and they went right back. I was worried like

1705
01:15:41,039 --> 01:15:42,840
last year because the tag match they had.

1706
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,359
Speaker 2: Like as like split off completely and it's like you

1707
01:15:46,359 --> 01:15:47,399
couldn't even follow it.

1708
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: And I didn't want a section where Seth and Punk

1709
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,399
find the crowd then Roman and Punk find the like

1710
01:15:52,399 --> 01:15:53,680
I didn't need that. I was happy they just did

1711
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,479
a circle and led to Roman jumping and taking some

1712
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,159
fans out. But like overall, I thought this was it

1713
01:15:59,279 --> 01:16:02,119
was a great man but a great character moment match

1714
01:16:02,199 --> 01:16:04,479
as well, And it's so funny like the last week

1715
01:16:05,039 --> 01:16:09,039
Man between Dynasty where we got Speedball, Ricochet and Kenny

1716
01:16:09,119 --> 01:16:12,119
and then NXC where we got Trick Javon and.

1717
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,159
Speaker 2: People are joking had the tweet in the drafts of

1718
01:16:15,239 --> 01:16:17,720
the NXT one being better, but honestly think it's pretty

1719
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:18,720
close at the end of it.

1720
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,399
Speaker 1: But that's with this to me, they are all three

1721
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,800
great triple threat matches that are like different in the.

1722
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 3: C Yeah, they're great in their own rights that they

1723
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,760
all have different reasons for being great. Like with the

1724
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,760
NXC triple Threat, Javon Adams was just on another level

1725
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,279
of greatness. Trick was doing this thing, he busted out

1726
01:16:38,319 --> 01:16:40,319
some new moves like it was great for its own reason,

1727
01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:44,159
but this the storytelling behind us, the pure psychology behind the.

1728
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,239
Speaker 2: Moment, and then was just great.

1729
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. They all delivered.

1730
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it left you with memorable moments, whether it

1731
01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:55,840
be the Roman diving over the crowd and taking everyone

1732
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,880
out or again the Paul Haymon moments. There was just

1733
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:05,039
there were so many great moments with this that it

1734
01:17:05,279 --> 01:17:09,119
just it left you remembering this match. And again that's

1735
01:17:09,239 --> 01:17:12,039
what a main event should do. It should have those moments,

1736
01:17:12,079 --> 01:17:15,880
it should leave you with those memories. And yeah, all

1737
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,840
in all, this was an absolute amazing way to close

1738
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,760
out Night one. Yeah.

1739
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,119
Speaker 1: No, I think they absolutely delivered here at lots of

1740
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:26,279
great moments, not to the same amount of quality, but

1741
01:17:26,359 --> 01:17:29,840
it reminds me like some people might hate it, but

1742
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,000
the two ones that reminds me of is Brett and

1743
01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:34,800
Sean the Ironman match. It wasn'tn hour but that and

1744
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,760
then the Rock and Austin seventeen where throughout the matches

1745
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,760
you always had like big moments and that was like wrestling,

1746
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,800
and then a big moment like stuff like the shield

1747
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,720
power bomb spot was fantastic. Seth actually said marks his

1748
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,239
fucking name on it, which was crazy.

1749
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,319
Speaker 2: That was like that was the thing. He was like

1750
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,439
that like kind of snapped Roman into like, yeah, his

1751
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,800
old version for a moment, which which is also like

1752
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,720
the story is is it's truly never gonna end until

1753
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,039
they do the tal.

1754
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,119
Speaker 1: Wrestle me. You gotta do it, you know, but like

1755
01:18:03,239 --> 01:18:04,680
that's the thing where and then they all hug at

1756
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,319
the end. You know, that's the finish right there, right,

1757
01:18:06,399 --> 01:18:09,439
but like they do that thing where last on Friday, Yeah,

1758
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,279
last night he call he said Dean Ambrose. But then

1759
01:18:12,279 --> 01:18:13,760
today he said mocks. But yeah, he said, like you

1760
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,680
don't have Paul, you don't have the bloodline, you don't

1761
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,760
have Mocks. And I was like, okay, this is you know,

1762
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,199
I'm waiting for him to drop that blood that fucking

1763
01:18:20,279 --> 01:18:23,880
title come back. But then I knew this spot was

1764
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,840
coming when he had him because the way he had

1765
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,800
was holding like see him punk I'm like, he can't

1766
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,840
physically lift see him punk that way, So I'm like, oh,

1767
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,600
it's not happening. But it was so great this moment

1768
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,159
of Rolan's firing up. He's doing the old big dog thing.

1769
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,640
Then he looks and he punches Seth. We get our

1770
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,960
first table spots with the new tables, which that's why

1771
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,039
they don't put him first. It's like they got no

1772
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:44,239
gifts because like that's because they explain to amily. It's

1773
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:46,359
like at least with the other tables, like they break

1774
01:18:46,359 --> 01:18:48,199
and you keep falling, right, this is like a sudden

1775
01:18:48,279 --> 01:18:50,359
stop and then it breaks because it's like it's just solid.

1776
01:18:50,399 --> 01:18:52,359
I'm not saying it's like oh my god, like the

1777
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,079
like the fucking cement floor. But I think that's why

1778
01:18:55,159 --> 01:18:58,720
they don't do it, and they had to do it. Yes,

1779
01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:01,000
it worked, but no, I thought that was great where

1780
01:19:01,039 --> 01:19:03,199
he fired up, the crowd won it, and then he's

1781
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:04,840
like no, because he's he's I think it's like Roman

1782
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,600
finally shown no, like I'm I am alone, Like I'm

1783
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,000
not gonna, you know, have this one night stand with you,

1784
01:19:10,119 --> 01:19:12,359
Like I'm not helping you out here, like whatever, I'll

1785
01:19:12,399 --> 01:19:14,520
do both myself, Like you said in the discord when

1786
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,720
he got the double power bomb, because he did want

1787
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,760
to punk, And legitimately I thought I was right because

1788
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,640
when he did one, the timing of it was he

1789
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,800
did want to punk, he did want to see punk

1790
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,159
was in the ring, he gone and speared him. I

1791
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:29,119
legit legitimate that that's it, because I thought Roman's going

1792
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:31,640
over this is it. That's a good finish right there,

1793
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,960
like he overcame the Shield thing. He took out his

1794
01:19:34,119 --> 01:19:36,720
like you know, fake mentor and see him punk. But

1795
01:19:37,039 --> 01:19:39,840
there's a lot of good false finishers, even the one where.

1796
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 3: They did the spear them to pedigree followed by the

1797
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:48,920
curb stomp. I thought, I was like, oh, this is yeah,

1798
01:19:49,359 --> 01:19:50,920
until now the flying.

1799
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,159
Speaker 2: Spear pedigreek hatch was amazing.

1800
01:19:53,279 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I was like, wow, that was a callback

1801
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,560
to Again. Funny enough, when Roman got suspended for steroids,

1802
01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:02,880
they took the title off him that way because that

1803
01:20:03,119 --> 01:20:05,920
he jumped and uh, Seth got him and then after

1804
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,039
that Moxley cashed the mind in the bank on Seth.

1805
01:20:08,079 --> 01:20:11,760
It was the night where all Shield members were world tour. Yeah,

1806
01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:13,800
but like that was a great call up. But yeah,

1807
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,680
that moment when it was GTS into spear and to

1808
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,600
stomp until Rollins fell like collapse. I'm like, oh my god, Rollinds,

1809
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,439
this is gonna win right here, because there's no way.

1810
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,880
But they there's lots because like you can do the

1811
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,560
spam kickout finisher, and of course the crowd's gonna pap

1812
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,319
But it was like the variation of how they're doing

1813
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:32,239
it tonight of just it wasn't just that there's a

1814
01:20:32,279 --> 01:20:35,840
little bit like near the end. It was very masterfully done.

1815
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,479
And then obviously the very end. We've talked a little

1816
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,359
bit about the big moment, which you know, we hint about.

1817
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,520
You know, David, you were really putting it out forward

1818
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,359
of you know, Seth winning and a reason why. But

1819
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,920
we got a great layout of Seth's down, it's punk

1820
01:20:50,039 --> 01:20:52,399
and Roman there in the middle, Paul goes gets the

1821
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,079
chair like what's he gonna do? He gives it because

1822
01:20:55,119 --> 01:20:57,079
I actually at first thought Dave was right. But what

1823
01:20:57,159 --> 01:20:59,039
I thought he was gonna do is they were there,

1824
01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:01,359
and I thought he was gonna saw the chair past

1825
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:02,079
than the set.

1826
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: But I was like, I don't know, I was going

1827
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,560
to do it like in the middle of all three

1828
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,199
of them, to be like, oh, who is it.

1829
01:21:07,359 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 3: For the only reason I didn't think that they were

1830
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,199
going to do that is because he already did that

1831
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:20,199
in the Brock run them and they still had to

1832
01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:22,119
figure it out, like he didn't choose his side, So

1833
01:21:22,279 --> 01:21:25,199
this one I thought more that he was going to

1834
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,960
When Punk went to go swing the chair, he would

1835
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,439
grab it out of his hands. But I like the

1836
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:35,119
low blow better, like it just it held more weight.

1837
01:21:37,279 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: I knew they were like Shenanigan's gonna absolutely because that's

1838
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,720
the same thing too, Like the funny deal of the story,

1839
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,359
like what's Roma gonna do without Paul?

1840
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: I get it, hits his counsel, like Paul has interfered

1841
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,560
in like five percent of his matches in the last

1842
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,479
five He's like, that's not Paul Hayman's route in this

1843
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,199
Paul Hayman did more with the bronc Lesner as far

1844
01:21:57,239 --> 01:22:00,399
as like interfering and stuff with Roman. Not really, but yeah,

1845
01:22:00,399 --> 01:22:02,880
he slides the chair to Punk, Punk goes hit Roman

1846
01:22:03,039 --> 01:22:06,840
low blow. Roman's all happy. He climbs over, and this

1847
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:07,479
is where I knew.

1848
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:08,359
Speaker 3: I acknowledge.

1849
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,359
Speaker 1: And then when he hit Punk with the chair and

1850
01:22:12,399 --> 01:22:14,920
speared him and stuff, I was like, okay, because I

1851
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,319
was like, oh, this is gonna set up like SummerSlam

1852
01:22:17,399 --> 01:22:19,520
Punk Roman one on one. Maybe they want Roman to

1853
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,960
be heel again. I saw the vision, but when they

1854
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,359
didn't immediately go to the finish like okay, no, like

1855
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,680
this is not over with because it was it was

1856
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:32,720
getting too drawn out to be oh yeah, he just yeah,

1857
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,960
because you would think about, like talking about the Jane

1858
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,840
gun the thing. Imagine if he did just hit Seth

1859
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,880
and peer like spear him, the crowd would be kind

1860
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,920
of dead because it's like, well, that's like we see

1861
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,880
what's happening. Like it's just Roman winning because he got

1862
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,359
the chair, but this was great of seys up. He's like,

1863
01:22:46,399 --> 01:22:48,720
goh hit him, even though it's like he sent Roman

1864
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,439
over this. He did this last year, Like does he

1865
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,439
just always want does he want Seth tied to the

1866
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,840
ropes and just wants to continually beat him over? But

1867
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,600
Paul's like, look, look my travel chief ses do in

1868
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,840
the shield pose. So Roman's gonna go hit him. I

1869
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,800
think Paul got down a little too early because Rod

1870
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:03,880
had even picked up the chair.

1871
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 3: Paul had like pretty sure Paul hit his fist on

1872
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:08,119
the chair.

1873
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,359
Speaker 1: He like missed time. That's okay, he did that and

1874
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,800
both got massive pops too when he got down to

1875
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,319
his knees and hit the thing. And then just that moment,

1876
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,039
the shot of Paul standing there and Seth not even

1877
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:22,800
turning around, and Seth just puts his hand out for

1878
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,000
the chair. And that's why I went with the name.

1879
01:23:25,119 --> 01:23:28,119
I think they'll do a variation, but man, I felt

1880
01:23:28,159 --> 01:23:31,800
like I was watching fucking twenty fifteen Seth Rawns all

1881
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,600
over again and like that's what we want. Like how

1882
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,319
for the past year, especially last two gimmicks I've been

1883
01:23:37,399 --> 01:23:40,640
bitching about like Rowns has looked like an idiot. He

1884
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,159
talks about stuff of like this was really bad, and

1885
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:45,359
the people were like, we love seeing but we love her.

1886
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,720
Like and as a as a heel, you can do

1887
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,560
that because you're supposed to get booed. You're supposed to

1888
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,560
be the bad guy. But it's a babyface. If you're

1889
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,079
making honest, truthful points and they're booing you or like

1890
01:23:54,199 --> 01:23:56,920
cheering against you, you just look dumb. So this is

1891
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:58,960
the perfect way where he can say, Hey, I told

1892
01:23:59,039 --> 01:24:01,399
you all this, you don't pick my side. I told

1893
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,880
everyone about these two. No one listens to me. Fuck

1894
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,000
you all. And he looked like they'll do vation, but

1895
01:24:06,079 --> 01:24:09,319
he looked like just his facials, it reminds me of

1896
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,479
post shield set and that's the best like he should

1897
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:12,840
have done.

1898
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,359
Speaker 2: He was moving in this mess. He got some extra

1899
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,000
extra stemselves for this time. He was landing on those

1900
01:24:20,079 --> 01:24:22,600
knees pretty hard on on the moon and stuff, and

1901
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:23,640
he was okay.

1902
01:24:24,079 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: And that's where like I know, he said, he's more

1903
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,159
near the end of his career, but they should have

1904
01:24:27,239 --> 01:24:30,439
done this before. Where even triple h H, I can't remember.

1905
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,279
I watched the interview with him, but he said this

1906
01:24:32,359 --> 01:24:34,960
in his dogs to where he tripped Stone Cole was

1907
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,000
already the top guy, and he saw Rock was gonna

1908
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,920
be the top guy, and he realized, I can never

1909
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,399
be the top baby face, but I can be like

1910
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,720
the Darth Vader of those two that should have always

1911
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,960
been sad. He should always been one A one two heels.

1912
01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: He's said that there were those interviews like just this

1913
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,880
past year where they're talking about like WA needs like

1914
01:24:52,199 --> 01:24:53,239
a big heel and.

1915
01:24:53,319 --> 01:24:56,079
Speaker 1: Stuff like that, and clearly Scene is not always gonna

1916
01:24:56,079 --> 01:24:58,880
be around right like he's we were assuming and win

1917
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,319
the tilS more, but there's gonna be time where he

1918
01:25:00,359 --> 01:25:02,479
goes away, so you need someone else also anchor it.

1919
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,920
He can also be the one, like you said as Bubbs,

1920
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,600
that could just destroy J and I hope that wouldn't

1921
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,840
that be great? Like Roman's gone and he takes the

1922
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,840
title off of J. Like I I and I do

1923
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,319
trust triple age because Seth rons is a Triple H guy.

1924
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,119
I think this has worked out for somebody that didn't

1925
01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:21,000
even want him in the match. If this was the angle,

1926
01:25:21,079 --> 01:25:23,560
if it was just Punk winning Seth winning Roman, I

1927
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,960
felt a great match. But still with those other ways,

1928
01:25:26,079 --> 01:25:28,359
this made it all worth it. And I think Seth

1929
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,439
and Paul's going to be a very fun dynamic as well.

1930
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,520
Speaker 3: So I got like, there's only perfect this, There's only

1931
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,039
one option going forward. Seth needs to come out in

1932
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:44,079
something special. He has to come out that is.

1933
01:25:44,119 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: A good call.

1934
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 3: He should come literally and the I'm a Paul Hayman

1935
01:25:48,039 --> 01:25:50,399
guy t shirt has to come out.

1936
01:25:50,319 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: In Matt especially on smack Down, he sat down like

1937
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,359
see him punkin did like the whole pipe bomb type

1938
01:25:55,399 --> 01:25:58,039
of promo thing, like he should come out with a

1939
01:25:58,119 --> 01:26:00,359
Paul Hayman guy shirt. That would be great at least

1940
01:26:00,399 --> 01:26:03,359
say that, But yeah, no, this is this is great

1941
01:26:03,359 --> 01:26:04,920
and you know it's funny. We tell us a few

1942
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,600
weeks ago where people were predicting this and I was like, yeah,

1943
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,479
and even David you said you could see that happened.

1944
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,439
I was like, that would be great, but I just

1945
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,119
don't know if they're gonna go that route. And this

1946
01:26:13,199 --> 01:26:14,800
one of these cases where they went there. And I

1947
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,960
think this is perfect because now I want to see

1948
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,960
Seth and Roman one on one. I want to see

1949
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,079
Seth and Punk one on one again. They're still meat

1950
01:26:22,119 --> 01:26:24,239
on the bone for Roman and Punk, like there is

1951
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,000
there's tons of stuff like.

1952
01:26:26,119 --> 01:26:30,119
Speaker 2: I mean, now there's even you can do Cody Seth again.

1953
01:26:30,119 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, and Cody Seth shgetto's win back. Hell, you

1954
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,439
can do Roman and see him Punk on a team

1955
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,039
together and verse Seth and somebody like fuck get Moxley.

1956
01:26:38,079 --> 01:26:41,560
But could you Matt, my god, could you imagine if

1957
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,279
you had Seth and John Moxley Dnams versus seeing Punk

1958
01:26:44,359 --> 01:26:47,279
Roman rains my god, like we need moxs back over.

1959
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,920
Like I said, do a trade trade somebody I don't

1960
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,359
know who in wa Okay, you know who, because we're

1961
01:26:52,359 --> 01:26:55,119
not gonna talk about tomorrow. Trade fucking Bailey because I

1962
01:26:55,239 --> 01:26:58,520
don't care what anyone's gonna say. I love Becky Lynch.

1963
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,760
I think she is the most main female we've ever

1964
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,840
had in the restling business. This ship about, Oh, it's

1965
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,640
been planned for weeks that Bailey was just gonna be

1966
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,439
bench for poss with Becky. We know it's Becky. This

1967
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,520
is this is fucking bullshit.

1968
01:27:12,039 --> 01:27:15,159
Speaker 3: That tweet from Mercedes Money though, that that got me

1969
01:27:15,239 --> 01:27:16,960
when she was like, hey, your pointe.

1970
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Phone money and it's like, yes, go get the bag.

1971
01:27:19,079 --> 01:27:21,439
But I'm pretty sure didn't Bailey like re sign last year.

1972
01:27:23,079 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: For like five years or something like no.

1973
01:27:25,279 --> 01:27:28,079
Speaker 1: No, So this is here, I'm saying, do a trade.

1974
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:31,079
Get in the room, send Bailey there, send moxley over.

1975
01:27:31,159 --> 01:27:34,000
And I think that's actually a fair like trade, especially

1976
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,760
where Moxleye's stock is right now, that's a fair trade.

1977
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,279
You get the dream team of Willow and Bailey together

1978
01:27:39,319 --> 01:27:41,239
as well, like everyone wants to there, they were hanging

1979
01:27:41,279 --> 01:27:43,960
out a couple of days ago. Well, like I just like,

1980
01:27:44,119 --> 01:27:47,039
I'm so we'll see tomorrow. But I am pissed for

1981
01:27:47,319 --> 01:27:51,239
Bailey because like that is like because everyone's just like, well, house,

1982
01:27:51,239 --> 01:27:52,640
would you get there? The whole thing? You know what,

1983
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,680
you fucking do the same thing. Randy Orton did, Hey, tomorrow,

1984
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,840
I'm having an open challenge. You just have Raquel and

1985
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,640
Live on Monday, say hey, we're having an open challenge,

1986
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,359
and guess what. Let's say Becky for some reason isn't

1987
01:28:04,359 --> 01:28:06,399
gonna show up. Then you go, okay, just do light

1988
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,439
on Bailey. They go out have a match, but then

1989
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,760
there's no announcements, thos, nothing, and like I'm not gonna

1990
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,199
speak for personal people's personals, beliefs and everything like that,

1991
01:28:14,319 --> 01:28:16,800
but like I can't believe Becky would be like cool

1992
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,640
with this, Like I don't know how Becky Bailey or

1993
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,079
maybe she fucking hates Bailey and she's like, yeah, suck it,

1994
01:28:21,159 --> 01:28:22,960
you know, like take this. But it's like to be like,

1995
01:28:23,039 --> 01:28:26,239
how am I gonna come back well for them? For weeks,

1996
01:28:26,279 --> 01:28:28,640
We're gonna promote Bailey's in this match, and you're gonna

1997
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,800
take your spot. And I know she's gonna get a

1998
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,720
big pop people be happy to see her, but I'm

1999
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,199
just on my own personal level, it's like, can't, like,

2000
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,680
can't you even do this on the raw after It's

2001
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:41,039
just like that to me is so shitty. I hate

2002
01:28:41,119 --> 01:28:43,880
this I hate everything about this, especially because there's all

2003
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,560
these examples of Bailey always being like pushed aside, like

2004
01:28:47,119 --> 01:28:48,720
I don't know. So that's what I'm saying. Get on

2005
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,359
the phone with TK, work something out. Get Moxley over here,

2006
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,840
you get Willow, you get Monet, you get fucking what

2007
01:28:56,239 --> 01:28:59,720
Billy Starks that's her favorite wrestler, right, boom, get Billy Starks,

2008
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,720
Like there's so much for her to do over there,

2009
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,600
Like it's fine, there's so much from Maxley doing w

2010
01:29:04,079 --> 01:29:05,640
there's so much for Bailey to do over there. And

2011
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,239
to me, if I just I was not hoping Bailey

2012
01:29:09,359 --> 01:29:11,399
was injured, but I kind of was because I go, okay,

2013
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,800
that makes sense, she's hurt. Hey, Becky, we got a

2014
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,800
spot big Pop. You want to come in for a night,

2015
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,239
that'd be fine. But the fact that if like other

2016
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,520
like I think it was fightful and PWI reporting that

2017
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,079
now this has been planned for a bit, it's like

2018
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,359
and like talent backstage, it's it's so funny. My last

2019
01:29:25,399 --> 01:29:26,840
point in this is because we all watch at the

2020
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,239
WrestleMania nine doc with Hogan Asbubs who shared the meme,

2021
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,079
But it was that where they're like, yeah, all the

2022
01:29:32,119 --> 01:29:34,920
boys weren't happy with Hogan, and that's already the rumor, like, yeah,

2023
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,119
people are kind of really bummed for Bailey because everyone

2024
01:29:37,279 --> 01:29:39,079
likes her and like this is kind of shitty, and

2025
01:29:39,119 --> 01:29:41,880
it's like, especially in a world where Becky already get

2026
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,600
those like Becky Hogan comparisons like that is not a

2027
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,600
good look, in my opinion, not a good look to

2028
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,239
just take a spot, Like it'd be different if Bailey

2029
01:29:49,319 --> 01:29:51,840
or Becky showed up for a WrestleMania season, but just

2030
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,159
to show up wrestling a night two, My god, that's

2031
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,479
that's some Hainish political stuff going on there. My god,

2032
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,279
you know, first world problems. I'm sure it's gonna be fine.

2033
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,119
Band's getting paid seven figures, I'm sure, but it's just

2034
01:30:05,239 --> 01:30:07,560
like that did not stay with me. When I was

2035
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,439
watching that pre show and she was injured, I was like,

2036
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,359
you gotta be shitting me. They're doing this, but uh

2037
01:30:13,239 --> 01:30:15,640
oh yeah, any thoughts on the event or anything with

2038
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,560
Bailey there anything we haven't touched upon.

2039
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,159
Speaker 3: No. I feel bad for Bailey. I think that she

2040
01:30:23,359 --> 01:30:27,560
has been such an asset to this company. To build

2041
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:32,600
her up only to pull her is just a stupid,

2042
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,680
fucking decision like there. I have no other words other

2043
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,359
than that, it is just a stupid fucking decision. Don't

2044
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,119
if you're not going to use her, don't build her

2045
01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:47,000
up and then pull her like that. Then just don't

2046
01:30:47,119 --> 01:30:50,439
announce or use anyone else on the roster to be

2047
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,359
Lyra's partner. Build somebody else, Bring someone in from an XCY,

2048
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,920
bring Roxanne Perez. I mean, you guys have been using

2049
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,039
her on and off this year on the main roster.

2050
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,199
Use anyone else, but don't do this to Bailey. She

2051
01:31:04,079 --> 01:31:07,000
is too good of a person, has been too good

2052
01:31:07,039 --> 01:31:10,439
for this company, this division to do something like this.

2053
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,119
Speaker 1: Well, they even did the whole like Rox and Bailey thing.

2054
01:31:14,239 --> 01:31:16,039
They dropped it. It's like that would have been perfect,

2055
01:31:16,119 --> 01:31:18,159
like have them have like a you know, ten minute

2056
01:31:18,199 --> 01:31:20,960
match show off first whatever, and then have Becky or

2057
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,399
a spot. It's just it's weird. So I just wonder

2058
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,399
if Becky, I don't know, we'll get more in that situation.

2059
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:27,840
I'm sure it's more in the next few weeks of

2060
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,720
like why is it this situation and everything, but yeah,

2061
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:33,920
it's weird, so that that's how we can get Moxye though.

2062
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:38,279
That's Bailey's mad make the trade see what happens. But

2063
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,520
I was gonna ask, do we think do we think

2064
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,239
Seth drops this music? He kind of has to write

2065
01:31:45,239 --> 01:31:47,079
in my opinion, like if he's if they want him

2066
01:31:47,079 --> 01:31:49,800
to be actually fully heal, like you can't have to

2067
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,520
sing along with Seth rollins, you know. In my opinion,

2068
01:31:55,319 --> 01:31:55,640
I don't know.

2069
01:31:55,800 --> 01:32:00,560
Speaker 3: He's He's used some variation of this, so I don't know.

2070
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,159
He might change it a bit, but I think for

2071
01:32:03,319 --> 01:32:06,760
the most part it will stay the same. Damn it,

2072
01:32:08,239 --> 01:32:08,600
damn it.

2073
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 1: He should. He should use this fire burns, you know,

2074
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:12,520
just just a r.

2075
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 2: You know what the shirt's gonna be. It's gonna be.

2076
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,399
I'm a It's either gonna be I'm a freaking Paul

2077
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,000
Hamn guy or I'll a faull freaking Hamn guy.

2078
01:32:22,359 --> 01:32:25,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is the freaking's gonna I hope he drops

2079
01:32:25,119 --> 01:32:25,439
that too.

2080
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 3: See.

2081
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,079
Speaker 1: I want everything. I want the costumes dropped, I want

2082
01:32:28,119 --> 01:32:31,079
the theme drop. I Seph has really changed himself. I

2083
01:32:31,239 --> 01:32:34,399
wanted to be very much more closer back to twenty fifteen.

2084
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,560
Not a copy, but I want the outfits, the entrances,

2085
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,560
the singing, all of it gone. I'm just hoping by

2086
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,319
that look in his eyes. To me, it looked like

2087
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,479
there's a change coming. But we'll we'll see. Out of ten,

2088
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:50,319
what would you give WrestleMania forty one Night one and

2089
01:32:50,399 --> 01:32:51,880
anything else do you want to shout out before we

2090
01:32:52,079 --> 01:32:52,720
end this episode?

2091
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 2: Umm? Out of ten?

2092
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 1: Well, and we'll talk about sand delivery after the story.

2093
01:32:59,279 --> 01:33:00,920
We'll talk about that after this rating here.

2094
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:07,199
Speaker 2: I think I'd probably go like a seven or like

2095
01:33:07,279 --> 01:33:09,560
a seven point five something along those lens.

2096
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:11,560
Speaker 1: Okay, what about you, David?

2097
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,159
Speaker 3: Right now, I have it sitting at a seven, just

2098
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:19,359
straight up solid seven. There's no scenario where it goes

2099
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:23,000
above at seven. Again, the main event was great. It

2100
01:33:23,159 --> 01:33:26,039
got me in the feels everything about that. I mean,

2101
01:33:26,079 --> 01:33:29,319
I just put in the discord the image of seeing

2102
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:32,000
Punk afterwards after he went off the air saying I

2103
01:33:32,119 --> 01:33:35,000
fucking did it, and just his emotion and everything else

2104
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:39,680
like that part was great. But again, the missteps and

2105
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:46,119
the deflated matches that were involved definitely do bring it

2106
01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:47,199
down significantly.

2107
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard for me like to like like I'm

2108
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,000
somewhere like a six point five seven, Like I don't

2109
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,079
even know if I can get to seven. But it's

2110
01:33:57,159 --> 01:33:58,960
just like it's tough because there were some big stuff,

2111
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,880
but yeah, I think i'm ad as I'll go six

2112
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,840
point five, maybe I'll sit on I'll get seven. I

2113
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,640
agree with you, David, I could not go higher than

2114
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,399
a seven. I think, like I said, it did feel

2115
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,239
a couple two TV or like b rate pay per views.

2116
01:34:11,279 --> 01:34:13,640
There wasn't too many moments, and there the moments I

2117
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:17,520
thought we were gonna get either underwhelmed or underlivered. But

2118
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,079
surprise US title match for me that I was a

2119
01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:23,000
great mid card match Tiffy and Shrad and Tiffany and

2120
01:34:23,279 --> 01:34:25,319
Shart out to me delivered, and then the main event

2121
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,319
was I'm not sure it's like it was a great

2122
01:34:28,359 --> 01:34:29,800
main event. I'm not gonna say it's like one of

2123
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:31,800
the best ever. I need some time. There's some main

2124
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,880
events where I felt that, like Zasia and Bianca right after,

2125
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,319
like okay, this is the top three, and I still

2126
01:34:35,359 --> 01:34:37,840
have that there this this was really great, but we've

2127
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,880
had a lot of great events, so well, I'll wait

2128
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:44,119
and see, but it's definitely definitely in the way positive,

2129
01:34:44,399 --> 01:34:48,359
like higher positive because like for me, it's.

2130
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,119
Speaker 3: Not a five star match, but it's a memorable match.

2131
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think I'm probably like a I don't

2132
01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:53,920
even be like a four point five on that five

2133
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,319
star angle. That's all I'll give it, though, five the ending, yes,

2134
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,039
five starle that that always helps that And that's where

2135
01:34:59,039 --> 01:35:01,840
it's like it's rock in Austin but done the right way,

2136
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,560
because it is like guy turning heel was steel chair,

2137
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,479
but it's like, oh, this one makes sense. We're Austin.

2138
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,479
I know they wanted to, but for me, it's just

2139
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,039
why I always can't put that mainvent too high. But yeah,

2140
01:35:11,119 --> 01:35:13,439
I'll go with six point five for now, really hoping

2141
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,680
for Night to stand a liver. I'll go first because

2142
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,960
I've not seen it at all. But I saw the

2143
01:35:19,079 --> 01:35:21,560
ladder match. I skipped because I don't fucking I don't

2144
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,760
fuck with the family or I don't care. I don't

2145
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,119
like that storyline all any like Stacks and everything, So

2146
01:35:26,159 --> 01:35:28,199
I skip that because I was shriving back from US,

2147
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,039
so I watched that. I watched the women's fatal four

2148
01:35:31,119 --> 01:35:33,479
way and the Triple Threat. Like David said, Javon is

2149
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,239
like that guy. I've seen him rest before, but man,

2150
01:35:36,319 --> 01:35:38,479
he's just like a freaking ancent. The way he's moving around.

2151
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,039
That's fucking Spider Man. That's not a wrestler that is

2152
01:35:41,119 --> 01:35:44,359
Spider Man, and that was that, Like I honestly, I'm

2153
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,119
I'm still going back and forth, but I said, like

2154
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:48,800
that for me might be a five star match because

2155
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,359
it's just like the athletic side from all three of

2156
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,399
those guys. The spots were great, and I also thought

2157
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:56,760
like multiple spots were very creative. Ladder match was tons

2158
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,359
of fun. I've got fallt too much, but they maybe

2159
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:05,560
invested what's the team what's the team of? Absolutely yeah, when.

2160
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:10,159
Speaker 2: They look on your uh your living the next version.

2161
01:36:10,079 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 1: That's what I've heard. Yeah, But when they are on

2162
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,039
the top of the ladder, did that spot before they

2163
01:36:13,119 --> 01:36:15,760
punched and or like stopped her and then they went

2164
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:17,439
to the fight. Because I was with people, I literally

2165
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:19,359
thought they were gonna kiss for a second, like the

2166
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:21,720
way that the way they like it was a little

2167
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,079
stroke of the hand and everything. I was like, it

2168
01:36:25,199 --> 01:36:27,439
was great, and uh, you know the ones Fatal four

2169
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,039
where it was like that was really good. Maybe didn't

2170
01:36:30,079 --> 01:36:33,479
meet my complete expectations. I think I've seen better combos

2171
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,079
of them, but uh, from what I saw was really good.

2172
01:36:36,119 --> 01:36:37,560
I'm gonna try to maybe catch up on the rest

2173
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,439
of stuff. Tomorrow than the family stuff, but uh no,

2174
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,199
it was very good. Uh my last note is fucking

2175
01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:46,600
get Rocks and x NXT. She was wrestling Stephanie on Tuesday.

2176
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,399
What's going on? She's a royal remo recorder, Like, let's

2177
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,439
let's get her out of there. But no, I think

2178
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,159
they delivered. And again that's where we're a of those

2179
01:36:53,159 --> 01:36:55,960
triple threats. You can see the variation of how different

2180
01:36:56,039 --> 01:36:59,720
triple threats can be. And and even then, like the

2181
01:37:00,039 --> 01:37:03,119
there's athleticism both aw one and this one, but this

2182
01:37:03,239 --> 01:37:06,159
one had like the big man feel right where.

2183
01:37:06,119 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 2: Aw One was kind of like in the middle of

2184
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:10,600
these two because they had a lot of the like

2185
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,560
the spots on the work rate, but then it also

2186
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,680
went like thirty minutes or something.

2187
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,079
Speaker 1: Along and like their story was like Kenny's beat up

2188
01:37:19,119 --> 01:37:21,119
an old Kenny overcome this. You know, they had the end,

2189
01:37:21,159 --> 01:37:23,600
but they had like the like the bald spot and everything,

2190
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,199
so they had their like moments. But yeah, no, the

2191
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,680
great and I'm I'm hoping that they don't do what

2192
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,479
I've talked to a spos and discord. I don't want

2193
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,319
I don't watch edix T every week, but I think,

2194
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:36,560
uh Trick lead in that heel group is.

2195
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 2: Not I I don't think what's gonna happen now. I

2196
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,000
feel like they were sort of building that he was

2197
01:37:42,079 --> 01:37:44,760
like the leader and they attacked him, and I thought

2198
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,279
that was gonna be a swerve of like, oh, they're

2199
01:37:46,319 --> 01:37:49,279
gonna help them win. But since then, like they were

2200
01:37:49,359 --> 01:37:52,119
like in a six man match against them, but they

2201
01:37:52,279 --> 01:37:54,920
just like like Trick and Ova just like fought to

2202
01:37:55,039 --> 01:37:57,880
the back and like during the match, So there wasn't

2203
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,560
really any involvement. So I think it's it's gonna end

2204
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,039
up not really being related.

2205
01:38:02,199 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: But I think that to me, just like call him

2206
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:06,920
up now. I think it's time. Like I know people like, oh,

2207
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,800
he's at the grass wrestler, it doesn't matter. This doesn't

2208
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,640
be another greatest wrestler, and w like it's like Trick

2209
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,359
still has a to me, enough of the tools he

2210
01:38:14,399 --> 01:38:17,319
can be a main roster especially main roster matches sometimes

2211
01:38:17,359 --> 01:38:20,039
you don't even wrestle. It's like athletically as NXT matches,

2212
01:38:20,079 --> 01:38:22,319
you have a lot of Trick Williams can go fucking

2213
01:38:22,319 --> 01:38:24,880
wrestle the Miz for ten minutes and be okay, you know,

2214
01:38:25,159 --> 01:38:27,199
like he can go wrestle Jacob for to and fuck

2215
01:38:27,239 --> 01:38:29,840
to will Care Like please, I'll take Trick Williams versus

2216
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,720
Jacob fought two over the Miz any day at least

2217
01:38:33,239 --> 01:38:35,319
fuck but like, yeah, I think get him on the

2218
01:38:35,399 --> 01:38:38,600
main roster. Prefer that. I'd say, don't put them with Mellow,

2219
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,279
keep them apart for now. I'd say, get Trick on raw.

2220
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,319
Get that because remember he was on the raw Netflix

2221
01:38:45,399 --> 01:38:47,640
thumbnail randomly remember when they were first going.

2222
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 2: And then yeah, and just like the trailers and stuff.

2223
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,560
Speaker 1: Get that chant on Netflix. You know you got the yat,

2224
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,319
you got to whoop that trick perfect?

2225
01:38:55,359 --> 01:39:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh you go. You know I watched all of

2226
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:06,800
the NXT. I advise you again, the family match you

2227
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:12,199
could skip, you did, You didn't miss anything. The fallout, Yeah,

2228
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:16,479
the fallout of it is really all that mattered. I

2229
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:20,960
like the women's fatal four way match. I will say this,

2230
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,840
if you are not going to put an NXC title

2231
01:39:25,159 --> 01:39:27,359
on Jordan Grace, then go ahead and move her up

2232
01:39:27,399 --> 01:39:30,079
to the main roster, because I do think that she

2233
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:33,880
is main roster ready. She was main roster ready when

2234
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,479
she came over. I know she wanted to be in

2235
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,920
n XT because she liked the women's division in there.

2236
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: But girls other than Jada, I think they're all ready

2237
01:39:43,039 --> 01:39:45,479
to go, which is fine, you can't get NXT, but

2238
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:46,680
like they're ready right now.

2239
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that you there's also a lot of

2240
01:39:49,079 --> 01:39:51,640
people server cutting you off. But I think there's a

2241
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,199
lot of people that when this crop of the main

2242
01:39:54,279 --> 01:39:57,319
event women go up, they're like a lot of the

2243
01:39:57,399 --> 01:40:00,279
women in the North American Title Ladder match, I think

2244
01:40:00,319 --> 01:40:04,039
are gonna be like the main events when the leave.

2245
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,399
Speaker 3: I just think for Jordan Grace right now, or her

2246
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,880
character for who she is built to be, you can't

2247
01:40:11,039 --> 01:40:13,800
continue to have her in the main event scene and

2248
01:40:14,079 --> 01:40:17,119
not win. So at this point put her on the

2249
01:40:17,199 --> 01:40:19,960
main roster like some of the other people. Again. You

2250
01:40:20,079 --> 01:40:23,039
can continue to have Julia Chase for the championship. You

2251
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:25,880
can have her and Stephanie Vacour go back and forth

2252
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:29,279
for a little while. Jada Parker's fine in the next

2253
01:40:29,359 --> 01:40:32,359
ty for a little while, and you have this great

2254
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:35,560
group of women who is in the North American Championship match.

2255
01:40:36,119 --> 01:40:40,119
But for someone like Jordan Grace, who's this big, dominant powerhouse,

2256
01:40:40,199 --> 01:40:42,840
you can't keep having her not win.

2257
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,560
Speaker 1: The big one who just can fucking move man like

2258
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,720
I've seen. I've watched Grace for a long time, but

2259
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:52,479
like she's so big, but she's just so like athletic

2260
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:54,880
and she just go. It's great, Like she should not

2261
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:56,359
be able to move when she does with that big

2262
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,800
of a frame and the weight she's carrying, like she's

2263
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,720
so she's just like effortless like every because I never

2264
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:03,880
really watched much of her teenage stuff and she's always

2265
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:05,800
been good. But I remember when she's the Rumble couple

2266
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:07,520
years ago. I was like, wow, she's look good. Every

2267
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,920
time I see her, it's like, yeah, so I'm with

2268
01:41:10,079 --> 01:41:11,960
you that maybe if she doesn't go, she should be

2269
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:13,560
the one to get that titleman sent the other two,

2270
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,439
I don't know, but yeah, Jordan again great showing just

2271
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:19,840
some great power spots and she's got good charisma too.

2272
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, but uh yeah, I also saw the

2273
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,039
whole show, even the the pre show.

2274
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: Match who end up winning that I actually never knew

2275
01:41:30,319 --> 01:41:34,319
Tatum and Gigu Okay, yeah with the fucking all I

2276
01:41:34,399 --> 01:41:38,079
saw was the sexual submission thing. That's that's all I

2277
01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:39,479
saw my timeline from that match.

2278
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:41,720
Speaker 2: They have a lot, they have a lot of moves,

2279
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,000
a lot of their tag team moves are in a

2280
01:41:44,119 --> 01:41:47,800
similar similar style of that. Yeah, but uh yeah, the

2281
01:41:48,119 --> 01:41:50,279
whole thing is they want and now because it's like,

2282
01:41:50,359 --> 01:41:52,640
oh it could be because they're gonna be facing the

2283
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:57,119
Women's Tag Team Champions on NXT this week, so it's like, oh,

2284
01:41:57,119 --> 01:41:59,880
if it's if it's Lyra, It's like that was Tatum's

2285
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:04,760
little storyline with Lara. But yeah, the pre show match

2286
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,600
it was it was fine. It was like it was alright,

2287
01:42:08,279 --> 01:42:10,199
uh Cora.

2288
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,520
Speaker 1: And Roxane like good now or they like.

2289
01:42:13,079 --> 01:42:17,359
Speaker 2: Like rocksand walked out and then the big pincora Okay

2290
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,840
yeah yeah, but it was like and the everyone was

2291
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,800
focused on like rock Stane walking out that when they pincore,

2292
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,199
there was like no reaction, like they just beIN. It's like, oh,

2293
01:42:27,279 --> 01:42:30,000
she's out because it was an elimination match as well.

2294
01:42:31,279 --> 01:42:35,199
Then what else was the first match Ricky and Ethan.

2295
01:42:35,359 --> 01:42:38,119
That was a pretty fun match. They both were just

2296
01:42:38,279 --> 01:42:40,640
taking a lot of bumps, like just jumping all the

2297
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,960
way to the announced table and a lot of Ethan

2298
01:42:43,079 --> 01:42:46,600
those a lot of like the the bag working the backspots,

2299
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,159
so there's a lot of again thrown on the road

2300
01:42:49,279 --> 01:42:52,239
like he did like the classic like drop on the ropes,

2301
01:42:52,319 --> 01:42:54,960
but like on his back, like just like just the

2302
01:42:55,079 --> 01:42:57,399
middle of his back across the rope and I'm falling

2303
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,960
to the outside. And uh. That was a fun match.

2304
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:00,680
It was.

2305
01:43:02,279 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 3: Going out through the rim.

2306
01:43:05,079 --> 01:43:07,319
Speaker 2: They only they only did it like one time, which

2307
01:43:07,359 --> 01:43:09,079
I was they had restraight for it. Most of the

2308
01:43:09,159 --> 01:43:13,600
time they were just chatting for either Ricky or Ethan uh,

2309
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:16,920
and they were doing like the chance that people do

2310
01:43:17,079 --> 01:43:19,640
for like Cody and Roman. Now they were doing like

2311
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:24,760
the Ricky Ricky say it's Ricky, Ricky say what else.

2312
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:28,479
Then there was Phraxi him versus Hank and Tank, which

2313
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:32,720
was an awesome match. I love that match. Yeah, just

2314
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:36,039
both the both the teams just doing really cool stuff

2315
01:43:36,119 --> 01:43:39,439
and just just a great, great match. And I think

2316
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:43,760
it's Hank hasn't an amazing black hole slam. He had

2317
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:47,520
a great one, just like full, just like full, just

2318
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,600
like complete rotation across.

2319
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome.

2320
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:54,239
Speaker 2: And yeah their finisher is like it's like like he

2321
01:43:54,319 --> 01:43:56,560
has them like in a power slam and the other

2322
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,000
guy runs and it's like hit and blade to his

2323
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:02,399
head and then the parerslam. That's their tag team finisher

2324
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:06,520
yet Okay, And yeah, that was an awesome match, and yeah, Praxium.

2325
01:44:06,359 --> 01:44:08,239
Speaker 1: They they lost the titles.

2326
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna lose. Yeah, I thought it

2327
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:14,560
was like because yeah, they'd been building this whole story,

2328
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,680
like Hank a Tank would just lose like every week

2329
01:44:18,079 --> 01:44:20,920
because they were trying to be like different tag teams

2330
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,000
would show up and try and give them like advice,

2331
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:25,800
and they would try and do something from those tag

2332
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,800
teams and just like always lose. And then then the

2333
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,880
last match was a gauntlet match to be like number

2334
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:35,239
one contenders, and they were like themselves and that's how

2335
01:44:35,279 --> 01:44:37,920
they won. So it's like I thought, it's like they

2336
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,359
kind of had to and they're like the big team

2337
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,960
that's like they hadn't fought They were pretty much the

2338
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,079
only thing that hadn't fought Praxium in like this tag

2339
01:44:46,119 --> 01:44:48,359
team title run, so I felt like it had to

2340
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,760
be them. But yeah, it was still still great match

2341
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,600
and a lot of moments were a lot of good

2342
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:58,479
near falls too, and yeah, Praxium seemingly seemingly fine they

2343
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,840
were at wrestling in yet, Yeah.

2344
01:45:02,319 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 1: They should get to that, like we talk about that

2345
01:45:04,079 --> 01:45:06,479
main roster. Yeah, I hope that's coming up soon.

2346
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:10,560
Speaker 2: So and yeah there was the family and Dark State match,

2347
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,680
which is, yeah, it's fine. The Dark State guys are

2348
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,359
pretty good. They do some cool stuff, but it was

2349
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,319
mostly about the the D'Angelo lore in this match, so

2350
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:22,640
it wasn't as much about the Dark State stuff. But

2351
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,840
it was fine. Yeah, women's four way you talked about it,

2352
01:45:27,039 --> 01:45:30,479
it was it was good. I liked all of them, honestly.

2353
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,960
Stephanie Mccaerre doing her move to everyone was the big moment.

2354
01:45:35,039 --> 01:45:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, big spot, Yeah, uh what else?

2355
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:41,039
Speaker 2: And then I think it was just a triple Threa

2356
01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:43,199
after that, which yeah, like he has I said, just

2357
01:45:43,399 --> 01:45:47,399
a really really great match, and yeah Oba, I like

2358
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:51,039
he wasn't my prediction and I wasn't really thinking he

2359
01:45:51,119 --> 01:45:54,520
would routine. I don't know why, but it makes sense

2360
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,600
and yeah, excited. I feel like Oba versus Javon is

2361
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,520
definitely the plan for like, yeah, that's when wins it.

2362
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why, especially with him pinning Hi because its funny.

2363
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,279
There's sometimes where the pin is like, oh that's the end,

2364
01:46:06,319 --> 01:46:08,039
and that's to move on, and there's sometimes where pins

2365
01:46:08,079 --> 01:46:10,279
like to kind of set more up, and I think

2366
01:46:10,319 --> 01:46:12,560
that's just to build up him as a baby face.

2367
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:14,960
And yeah, I'll be very excited to see that as

2368
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,640
like a one on one. Have they done one on one? Well, actually,

2369
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:19,720
I'll take that back, Okay, if they haven't, that's good.

2370
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,960
But there's difference like one on one TV than one

2371
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:23,399
on one like pay per view pl E.

2372
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:27,159
Speaker 4: And I'll be excited for O but him they were

2373
01:46:27,359 --> 01:46:30,560
they were in the The Irons Iron Match, and I

2374
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,199
think he pinned him at least once, and they Arons

2375
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,800
like Javon Pindove I think at least once in that

2376
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:36,880
and Survival match.

2377
01:46:37,159 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that that that's like there's just perfect classic

2378
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:45,000
like Monster Bad Guy and then like flying you know,

2379
01:46:45,159 --> 01:46:48,800
David Golive situation, Like I'm that's gonna be really fun

2380
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:50,479
to watch. I think Javon will be in with like

2381
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,560
a you know, a bunch of moves or a small

2382
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,239
toy store one package.

2383
01:46:55,399 --> 01:46:59,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do wonder how long this oprah rain will be, Like,

2384
01:46:59,159 --> 01:47:01,439
I don't know because if they want to call him up,

2385
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,479
I think the draft, I don't know when it's happening,

2386
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,640
but XC usually does may I think, yeah, NXC usually

2387
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:11,479
does spring break in like one or two weeks after

2388
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,880
standing deliver something like that because that's when. Yeah, because

2389
01:47:15,279 --> 01:47:18,880
Ilia lost this title at spring breaking and then he

2390
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:20,680
got called up like right after.

2391
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 1: These fucking I know we're in spring, but she's like,

2392
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,600
aw was spring breakthrough? This would like spring break in

2393
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,359
these fucking like. I guess it's just because I just

2394
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,600
associate these with like when it should be spring break,

2395
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,680
so when it's after, it's just But yeah, I guess

2396
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:34,159
you could. I just I don't know.

2397
01:47:34,279 --> 01:47:37,239
Speaker 2: I think he'll have a longer Yeah, I think he'll

2398
01:47:37,279 --> 01:47:40,920
have a longer rain. There's definitely I'm trying to think

2399
01:47:41,159 --> 01:47:45,119
like of challengers for him. I'd have to think and

2400
01:47:45,319 --> 01:47:46,880
really look through like the roster.

2401
01:47:47,279 --> 01:47:49,119
Speaker 1: I think you could have anally get Ricky Saints when

2402
01:47:49,159 --> 01:47:51,680
he loses the North American because I don't think it

2403
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,319
would beat him, but that's a potential one. Plus you

2404
01:47:54,399 --> 01:47:56,920
other got other people coming up right or and couldn't

2405
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:59,560
they have didn't totally D'Angel he beat him for the

2406
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,399
North America, right, Yeah, so you could run that back

2407
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:04,880
where but this time Oba gets his win because I

2408
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,159
you know, I never liked that that mentioned.

2409
01:48:08,279 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 2: The Tony D'Angel match was really good, but then his

2410
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:14,079
rain was just like nothing. It was a transitional rain

2411
01:48:14,199 --> 01:48:17,319
for a transitional rain, but you had a transitional rain

2412
01:48:17,359 --> 01:48:21,800
to Sean Speirarits who had a transitional rain to Ricky Saints. Yeah.

2413
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it will be there for a while.

2414
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:26,439
I just I just don't see them bring them to TV. Yeah,

2415
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,439
especially because I feel like you got seen it, got Seth,

2416
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,079
you got Russif who's gonna be like a monster heel

2417
01:48:31,159 --> 01:48:32,520
maybe you know stuff like that.

2418
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,239
Speaker 2: So I guess I forgot to talk about really the

2419
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,880
women's ladder match, which was right. Yeah, I really enjoyed it,

2420
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,079
And like you said, yeah, there's the RUCA storyline. It's

2421
01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:44,279
kind of it's been fun. It's like one of those

2422
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:47,439
it seemed like a very random tag team, but it

2423
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:50,760
seems that outside of like they're actually really good friends

2424
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,199
because they've done a lot of little video like they

2425
01:48:53,239 --> 01:48:56,079
pretty much started the storyline themselves. Were just like some

2426
01:48:56,319 --> 01:48:58,920
like tiktoks and stuff like that, and it's just been

2427
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,359
really working and the team when they actually do wrestle

2428
01:49:01,399 --> 01:49:03,359
as the team, they've been pretty good. So now I

2429
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,640
wonder what it's it's gonna go with obviously still having

2430
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:08,399
won the title here.

2431
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:12,319
Speaker 1: But don't forget too new newly Speed Champion as well,

2432
01:49:12,399 --> 01:49:15,720
she's the double Champier now speed Champion nor And you know,

2433
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:17,479
I because I haven't seen it that much. I've seen

2434
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,760
it in the the g M O Game. I fucking

2435
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,920
love the North America with the White Trap. There's something

2436
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:23,960
about that title with the White Trap that's just like

2437
01:49:24,199 --> 01:49:27,000
gorgeous because some look there, some don't the White Trap

2438
01:49:27,039 --> 01:49:29,800
with North American. It's that white and red. Oh my goodness,

2439
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:35,800
that's unique. He looks really really good, you know. So yeah, no,

2440
01:49:37,039 --> 01:49:38,199
she's just fucking crazy all that.

2441
01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 2: Sue. She did the soul Snatcher to everyone.

2442
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:48,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff, like whatever. She like crunched her way

2443
01:49:48,359 --> 01:49:50,520
up on the ladder. That was because I'm like, just

2444
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,039
don't fall, you know. And yeah, Seale, she's like, yeah,

2445
01:49:53,319 --> 01:49:55,439
I've seen her a few times, but I'm I'm becoming

2446
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:56,159
a fan of hers.

2447
01:49:56,239 --> 01:49:59,359
Speaker 2: So she was really fun. She's just like just like

2448
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:04,680
a just hyperactive and stuff. But uh, yeah, she they

2449
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,880
all had a good performance here. I thought the Izzy

2450
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:10,359
Dame had like a really good like like MVP of

2451
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:13,359
this ladder match. I thought she had some some fun moments.

2452
01:50:13,359 --> 01:50:16,279
She's the one in like Sean Spears this group, which

2453
01:50:16,359 --> 01:50:18,159
kind of the story that she's gonna be the one

2454
01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:22,399
that like is like pushed in this group like they

2455
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,560
like after Shawn Spears like lost the title, they had

2456
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:29,039
like a promo video who was like I forget the

2457
01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:31,039
exact wording of it, but it was pretty much saying

2458
01:50:31,159 --> 01:50:33,840
like like we're your goons now and you're gonna be

2459
01:50:34,039 --> 01:50:37,119
like the main, main person here, and she's pretty good.

2460
01:50:37,199 --> 01:50:39,560
She she was like for a long time just kind

2461
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,720
of like a level up type person and had like

2462
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,680
she was like Keana James was like her mentor for

2463
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,279
a while or something like that, but she wasn't really

2464
01:50:48,359 --> 01:50:50,520
doing anything like she would sort of be on TV

2465
01:50:51,319 --> 01:50:53,640
like every once in a while. And now it seems

2466
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:55,920
like she's definitely one that's gonna be one of those

2467
01:50:56,039 --> 01:50:59,239
like next up when like I said, when these top

2468
01:50:59,319 --> 01:51:02,319
like when Julia and Jura and Stephanie start leaving, I

2469
01:51:02,359 --> 01:51:04,640
think she's definitely gonna be one push to that main

2470
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:05,560
event picture.

2471
01:51:06,119 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, well, David, anything else next to you?

2472
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:11,199
You say anything?

2473
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 3: Nope, that's it for me on next Sea Yeah, oh

2474
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:15,279
I just seen.

2475
01:51:15,119 --> 01:51:17,119
Speaker 1: Because of course now you see the fall and everybody

2476
01:51:17,319 --> 01:51:21,560
of praise to the complete or timeline like complaining stuff

2477
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,600
like that. It is kind of crazy the matches the

2478
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:28,199
runtime like ninety seven fifty that's like for the first

2479
01:51:28,239 --> 01:51:31,520
FORMTCH that's crazy amount of time for like small amounts.

2480
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,800
So I'll see, don't count for rent entrances. I will

2481
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,319
say as a negative too, I get it. It's TKL

2482
01:51:37,399 --> 01:51:40,359
they do that as sponsorships. Man, there's just way too

2483
01:51:40,399 --> 01:51:40,840
much going on.

2484
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:41,319
Speaker 2: I get it.

2485
01:51:41,399 --> 01:51:43,359
Speaker 1: Like in the middle of Jay Wuso's entrances, like here's

2486
01:51:43,399 --> 01:51:45,840
fucking sling Jon's girl, It's like, don't do that, sure

2487
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:47,159
or later, I don't need this. In the middle of

2488
01:51:47,239 --> 01:51:48,039
Jay's entrance, like.

2489
01:51:48,319 --> 01:51:51,079
Speaker 3: There was a dude dress up as dude wipes. I

2490
01:51:51,279 --> 01:51:53,920
saw in the audience the annoying people.

2491
01:51:54,199 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like it reminds me of how people always me

2492
01:51:57,199 --> 01:51:59,720
on Jeff Keey for the Video Game Awards, where it's like,

2493
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,119
you know, I love this game, but you know I

2494
01:52:01,239 --> 01:52:06,399
love more like yeah, yeah, yeah, or it's like whatever website,

2495
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:08,399
it's like all right, you know, like that one time

2496
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:10,800
he's like, oh, you like Final Fantasy the It's like, well, no,

2497
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,640
not that you can get with this game subscription. Like man,

2498
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:14,199
the ad.

2499
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Wasn't it Like it was like some like grub hub

2500
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:19,880
ad and the code was like final Fan.

2501
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: And that's this show just reminds me of man we

2502
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:26,079
were in the TK aware of like there's so many

2503
01:52:26,399 --> 01:52:29,439
fucking sponsorships here ads and I get it, but it's

2504
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:30,560
just like it's being.

2505
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 2: Hit the ones on in the ring. I don't really

2506
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:34,640
notice as much.

2507
01:52:35,199 --> 01:52:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got accustomed to it. I still wish they

2508
01:52:38,359 --> 01:52:40,800
weren't there, but I completely get it. I'll take those

2509
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,560
over the CONTs and just like you know how like

2510
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:45,680
at one point they went to Exfinity and like the

2511
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:49,199
stage lit up purplely, like you've never seen wrestlemingting it

2512
01:52:49,359 --> 01:52:51,520
like this because you were watching with Exfinity. It's like,

2513
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,800
oh my god, I'm not watching with Exfinity. It doesn't

2514
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:57,119
matter to me. Like it's like it's it's just like, yeah,

2515
01:52:57,319 --> 01:52:58,960
there's just certain things, but I get it. But it's

2516
01:52:59,039 --> 01:53:01,640
just this one felt most egregious. It just felt the

2517
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:05,560
most like we got WrestleMania TKO. We're gonna just fucking

2518
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,479
hit you with as much ADS as possible. And that's

2519
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,720
so that definitely took a little bit yeah down for

2520
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:11,399
me because I think you gotta get paid, but also

2521
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:12,960
just take some of that magic of when you're just

2522
01:53:13,039 --> 01:53:14,319
getting broken up with some of the.

2523
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:19,359
Speaker 3: I would rather be on the ring stuff than like

2524
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:23,399
last year with the this match is sponsored by Snoop

2525
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:25,840
Dogg's Gin and Juice going around the outside of it.

2526
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,239
Speaker 2: There was that like in the match the tag on

2527
01:53:29,399 --> 01:53:32,479
the home shield where it was just like a white background.

2528
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,640
It was just like glaring. I noticed that. Yeah, the

2529
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:39,199
barricade stuff was usually just like black background and just

2530
01:53:39,319 --> 01:53:42,720
like the logo of whatever company was sponsoring in.

2531
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:48,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's that's fine. Uh, But the constant interruptions

2532
01:53:48,359 --> 01:53:51,119
with that was chess. It was a little bit over

2533
01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:51,840
the top.

2534
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 1: For me, and I got nothing to that here. I've

2535
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:55,800
shared the discord. I'm just bringing out this fucking clip

2536
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:57,800
of Bret Hart because man, this is the best shit ever.

2537
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:00,199
He's shaking Tripa's hand and then he gives that look

2538
01:54:00,279 --> 01:54:01,199
like he wants nothing to do.

2539
01:54:01,279 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 2: With them, like like.

2540
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:07,319
Speaker 3: Like yes, fucking guy.

2541
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,079
Speaker 1: So funny because like, I don't know, especially there's been

2542
01:54:10,119 --> 01:54:13,640
so many times like when Triple H and Undertaker had

2543
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,680
their helmotelic end of Aaron, i'mone praise it bright like yeah,

2544
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,199
it's nothing that's special, nothing I haven't seen, Like like

2545
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:23,399
he fucking hat just like Oh man, I love bred

2546
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,279
Art so much. Like this guy when I was way

2547
01:54:25,319 --> 01:54:27,079
to make you the first ever three to Hall Famer

2548
01:54:27,079 --> 01:54:29,239
and you got the balls back. Whatever you're like, I

2549
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:31,800
am sure something more into it. But fuck I love

2550
01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:32,760
Fred harper Man.

2551
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:36,359
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, before we get out of here, I

2552
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,039
do have a question for you guys. It's actually a

2553
01:54:39,119 --> 01:54:44,560
listener submitted question, and thinking about uh the CM Punk

2554
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:47,319
Match and the intro to the CM Punk Match, just

2555
01:54:47,359 --> 01:54:50,600
how incredible it was with that uh promo package that

2556
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:54,079
they had in the mix of it all, Chris Balka

2557
01:54:54,239 --> 01:55:00,399
from the Marvel Lionce podcast Ever asked a question, and

2558
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:05,720
his question for us is what is our favorite WrestleMania promo?

2559
01:55:06,359 --> 01:55:10,399
His is, uh the WrestleMania X seven, the Rock and

2560
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,800
Stone Colt, the my Way promo everyone's favorite, but uh,

2561
01:55:14,279 --> 01:55:16,800
what is you guys's favorite promo? And if you need

2562
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,920
a melment to think, I will go ahead and tell

2563
01:55:20,039 --> 01:55:23,359
you one of mine. Since my Way has already been said,

2564
01:55:23,439 --> 01:55:27,239
I'm going to go with the Daniel Bryan Monster promo

2565
01:55:27,359 --> 01:55:31,319
from WrestleMania thirty, the whole build behind the Yes movement

2566
01:55:31,399 --> 01:55:34,199
and everything else with that him going against the authority

2567
01:55:34,399 --> 01:55:38,680
like that had me completely fired up. An honorable mention

2568
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:42,640
I would give to that is Undertaker with the Johnny

2569
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:46,359
Cash Ain't No Grave. Oh when he made his return.

2570
01:55:46,239 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: About that one, No, it was so weird too, and

2571
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,079
he returned on Raw. He used that as a theme

2572
01:55:51,199 --> 01:55:54,319
one time and then they opt it. I wish they

2573
01:55:54,439 --> 01:55:57,079
kept the Johnny Cash Ain't No Grave theme song Undertaker

2574
01:55:57,079 --> 01:56:00,560
on that run. It was so good. That was like chills.

2575
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, stabbing the contract signing with the pen

2576
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:08,359
yet that that Ain't No Grave was good. But man,

2577
01:56:08,479 --> 01:56:12,439
that Daniel O'Brien Monster going in to wrestle me at thirty,

2578
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:16,439
everyone behind him, that build up to that just it

2579
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:18,680
still gives me chills thinking back on that.

2580
01:56:19,119 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: My top three, because I've been mentioned, Number one's my Way,

2581
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,359
Number two is Monster. The number three is Shawn Michael's

2582
01:56:24,479 --> 01:56:27,479
Undertaker running up that hill for wrestling in twenty six.

2583
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:30,159
It's just like a whole montage of Shawn Michael's being

2584
01:56:30,199 --> 01:56:32,760
obsessed with the Undertaker and screwed him over. But it

2585
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,600
is it's a creepy version of running up that hill

2586
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:39,279
and it is, man, it is really really good. There's

2587
01:56:39,319 --> 01:56:41,319
tons of others, but yeah, those be my top three.

2588
01:56:41,399 --> 01:56:44,199
That that one's just it's just I remember watching it

2589
01:56:44,439 --> 01:56:46,239
at that point I was younger, just like, man, this

2590
01:56:46,399 --> 01:56:49,640
is a work of art, this promo package. So yeah,

2591
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:50,319
I love that one.

2592
01:56:51,199 --> 01:56:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have to say the My Way

2593
01:56:53,359 --> 01:56:56,039
one obviously, but another one, so another one. I really

2594
01:56:56,159 --> 01:56:59,520
like this from last year, the Cody Roman Night two

2595
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:03,159
main of video package. I really like. It's also an

2596
01:57:03,239 --> 01:57:07,560
Imagine Dragon song, but it's like, hey, yeah, and it

2597
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,800
shows it's like the whole Cody story, Like it shows

2598
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:13,960
him walking out as pictures of him with the bus and.

2599
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, forgot about that.

2600
01:57:17,079 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and it's like yeah, he's like he started

2601
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:23,039
a revolution and then it's like the whole thing is

2602
01:57:23,199 --> 01:57:26,359
like it's like no matter, no matter the outcome, the

2603
01:57:26,479 --> 01:57:30,560
story ends tonight. That's the ending of it. And it

2604
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:33,960
shows yeah, like the rock It's like like it shows

2605
01:57:34,039 --> 01:57:36,359
like the beating him up in the rain. It's like

2606
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:40,399
the Mama Roads thing. Yeah, and yeah, it's a really

2607
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:42,680
great one. I've rewatched that one a ton of times.

2608
01:57:43,319 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 1: I can't remember the band, but two other ones that

2609
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:50,119
they did too was the There's the Rock WrestleMania twenty

2610
01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:53,079
nine pro or Sorry Rock and sena wrestle Mania twenty

2611
01:57:53,119 --> 01:57:56,960
nine prom Oh it's from Civil Twilight. They also did

2612
01:57:57,039 --> 01:58:00,399
one for you know, speaking of the mass the goal

2613
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,119
The Vince Man Brett Hart one is actually really good

2614
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:06,079
just because you had year like the match as they're

2615
01:58:06,079 --> 01:58:10,199
a live, fucking awful Top ten worst wrestling matches ever.

2616
01:58:10,479 --> 01:58:12,399
It's just Vince getting beat on with a chair for

2617
01:58:12,479 --> 01:58:15,119
ten minutes and kudos to him, which I remember back time.

2618
01:58:15,239 --> 01:58:17,119
Then they're like, the word is Vince is really hurt,

2619
01:58:17,199 --> 01:58:20,600
Like the rumor was like like really laid it into

2620
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,319
but Vincent saying anything, but like the rumor was. There's

2621
01:58:23,359 --> 01:58:25,159
like an after party and they're like Vince didn't even

2622
01:58:25,199 --> 01:58:27,640
show up. He was supposed to be like really banged up.

2623
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:30,520
But both done by Civil twelve. But like the Rock

2624
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:32,479
and Scene one's great because they're like they show him

2625
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:34,720
lose to the Rock, they show him lose to John Lornas.

2626
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,479
They have like like oh John Cenea is getting divorced.

2627
01:58:37,479 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 2: They show like yeah, I just heard him about that.

2628
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,159
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. But it's the music and the editing is

2629
01:58:43,239 --> 01:58:47,319
like really really good. But yeah, I know there's there's

2630
01:58:47,399 --> 01:58:48,880
some great stuff out there.

2631
01:58:49,039 --> 01:58:51,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, oh, another good one to be part I

2632
01:58:51,279 --> 01:58:55,640
forget even though the match was pure shit, the intro

2633
01:58:56,359 --> 01:59:00,159
to the Miz versus John Cena where Miss City in

2634
01:59:00,279 --> 01:59:03,239
front of the TV. Yes, and it's got like the

2635
01:59:03,399 --> 01:59:04,479
whole build up.

2636
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:10,319
Speaker 2: Of things like these amazing video packages for any feud.

2637
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what I was saying with on the discord,

2638
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,039
Like I've said this many times. Instead of the gimmick,

2639
01:59:15,279 --> 01:59:17,439
that's why I want AW. They need to go hire

2640
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,039
somebody because you can make the bet the worst feud

2641
01:59:20,119 --> 01:59:22,680
or most boring feud look like the most epic match,

2642
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,680
and AW does not do that. They have a few

2643
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:27,039
packages they've done in their five years that are i'd

2644
01:59:27,079 --> 01:59:29,520
say great or very good. But and that like the

2645
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:31,800
next time Swerve and Hangman should wrestle, that should be

2646
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:33,560
I'm not saying get my way, but that should be

2647
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:35,479
there my way. But I guarantee it's gonna be some

2648
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:37,680
thirty seconds. Oh the blood feuds. There it is, and

2649
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,239
there they go. They just show a bunch of clips.

2650
01:59:39,319 --> 01:59:41,039
It's like I'm coming for you and swart of being

2651
01:59:41,119 --> 01:59:43,159
like Swarm's house, and then it's like they show the

2652
01:59:43,199 --> 01:59:45,479
graphic and that's it's like, well, like they're always like

2653
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:49,600
forty five seconds. It's like, you guys have sixteen hour

2654
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:51,840
pay per views, but these video that's why, probably because

2655
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:53,960
the video packages. They're like, oh, we can't have those belong.

2656
01:59:54,039 --> 01:59:56,199
But you know, you guys go have a forty seven

2657
01:59:56,239 --> 01:59:58,760
minute match for fucking the T and T Championship.

2658
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:02,039
Speaker 3: But you can cut off half of any cop match

2659
02:00:02,279 --> 02:00:04,960
and just give me video packages instead, and I will

2660
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:05,680
be okay with that.

2661
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 1: Don't hurt my boy. Cope, he's haent a tough month.

2662
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:10,159
You know, he got he got treachered out, he got

2663
02:00:10,279 --> 02:00:12,000
fucking pile drive for leave him alone.

2664
02:00:12,079 --> 02:00:14,880
Speaker 3: But maybe he should be wrestling for forty five minutes

2665
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:15,680
and he'd last long.

2666
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Give him the Jay Car gil To

2667
02:00:18,279 --> 02:00:21,399
He's Goldberg. But uh, we'll end it there because I

2668
02:00:21,439 --> 02:00:23,840
know it's late for these gentlemen. But yeah, well, a

2669
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:27,359
variation of us will be back tomorrow. We'll be reviewing everything. Obviously,

2670
02:00:27,359 --> 02:00:30,039
we got the two big ones with the Women's Triple Threat,

2671
02:00:30,319 --> 02:00:32,560
and then we got Rock and Scene, which should be

2672
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:36,680
or sorry I was talking with yeah for ice in

2673
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:37,680
a lifetime.

2674
02:00:37,239 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 2: But we're doing it right. We're not reviewing Night two.

2675
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:42,840
We're actually doing a retro nine.

2676
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:47,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, even nine which retro review other than see him

2677
02:00:47,279 --> 02:00:50,119
Punkin Taker shit WrestleMania, but the.

2678
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 3: One of the times that punk show over the Swagger

2679
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:57,399
on wrestling.

2680
02:00:57,279 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 1: Yel Borrow Swagger, Rye Back and Mark Henry, Triple H

2681
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:02,880
and Brock and just like a I won't say a

2682
02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:05,920
snooze fest, but like close enough where I just had

2683
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:07,039
to go over Brock.

2684
02:01:07,439 --> 02:01:11,319
Speaker 3: Cody getting his match cut because uh of the hip

2685
02:01:12,239 --> 02:01:15,880
that was that was that wrestled team Hell no.

2686
02:01:19,600 --> 02:01:23,279
Speaker 1: That that led to particular cash in in the next day, God,

2687
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:25,640
is there anything else on that that I'm forgetting? Honestly,

2688
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:29,079
Punkin Taker was legendary, and I like there's something. It's like,

2689
02:01:29,119 --> 02:01:29,920
there's something.

2690
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 3: Else, wasn't that the Bandango where? And then the next day,

2691
02:01:36,319 --> 02:01:37,319
Oh my god.

2692
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:41,079
Speaker 2: You have Wade Bert versus the Miss where I think

2693
02:01:42,239 --> 02:01:44,800
show match. I think it might be ye, I think

2694
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:48,159
I think the thing is like it's like like Wade

2695
02:01:48,199 --> 02:01:50,279
Ber wins it off the Miss like a week before

2696
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:53,399
then Miss wins it and then like on the Rock Media,

2697
02:01:53,479 --> 02:02:00,279
he just went back, fucking yeah, you're forgetting yet you're

2698
02:02:00,319 --> 02:02:01,680
forgetting the Jericho.

2699
02:02:02,399 --> 02:02:06,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh for good reason, but yeah, we will be

2700
02:02:06,159 --> 02:02:08,720
back Tomorrow'm not talking about restume in twenty nine Wrestling

2701
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:11,920
You Have forty one Part two should be a good show.

2702
02:02:12,239 --> 02:02:14,720
I think everyone that tuned in uh subscribe to the

2703
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:16,479
feeds and we probably hear from most of tomorrow and

2704
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:17,239
not be boring.

2705
02:02:18,239 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 2: Bye.