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Speaker 2: News Radio ten thirty and I'm here tonight with who leam,
Speaker 2: what's night's topic? You No, you have no idea, No,
Speaker 2: I never know. So what's sitting in front of you
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 4: Twoe Brookline Police officers.
Speaker 2: So we think that shows about them. Okay, she really
Speaker 2: helps me lost my co host. You see that. See
Speaker 2: that's why she was a blonde. You see the blonde picture.
Speaker 2: Now as she becomes a brunette. She's becoming a brunette.
Speaker 2: She's supposed to be getting like shopper, the bloone is
Speaker 2: supposed to go, the bunette supposed to come.
Speaker 4: You're calling me stupid on national radio Mentione Thatt's see
Speaker 4: when you can't remember things.
Speaker 2: No, that's just called no.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're just having Cydney language. Now you have
Speaker 4: an excuse you We have Citney language.
Speaker 2: That's called metopause. Okay. Anyways, our topic tonight is what
Speaker 2: protecting the community. And I have two Brookline offices.
Speaker 3: Introduce yourself hisagant, robbed de Sarrio, Brookline PD, and.
Speaker 5: I am Paul Campbell, Deputy Superintendent with the Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: Police depart What does that actually mean, Paul? What does
Speaker 2: what does that mean?
Speaker 3: It means he's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Making no money deal making, no money, But go ahead.
Speaker 5: It means I'm I oversee one of the divisions for
Speaker 5: the police department. So I do a number of a
Speaker 5: number of different roles. One of the roles I do
Speaker 5: is public Information officer. But the Community Service Division essentially
Speaker 5: works for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, and you Rob, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: So I am the supervisor, the frontline supervisor of the
Speaker 3: Community Service Division, so I supervise the patrolman that are
Speaker 3: assigned to the division. And of course I have my
Speaker 3: other tasks that I'm responsible for. Social media for a
Speaker 3: shameless plug if I may.
Speaker 2: Oh, so when I go on your social media, you
Speaker 2: see that's me coming.
Speaker 3: I see you all the time.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so make sure somebody's noticed in what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: I create a lot of the content there and videos
Speaker 3: and still and information and news and stuff. So social
Speaker 3: media and emergency management is another role of mine in
Speaker 3: the Community Service Division.
Speaker 2: Okay, And basically you've explained what you do. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: going to keep the questions. I'll go so oft with you, guys.
Speaker 2: I won't go HRD, I won't go really really hard.
Speaker 3: We'll go easy. We're ready, all right.
Speaker 2: Let me just start with this question. If you date,
Speaker 2: how's the crime rate been? And I know you can't
Speaker 2: only speak about Boston Newton, nor am I asking you to.
Speaker 2: But are the cops communicating with each other across the
Speaker 2: communities or local like is Newton to talking to Brookline?
Speaker 2: Is Brookline talking to Boston? Is because you border you're
Speaker 2: bordering Boston, Newton, Jamaica. Plane which is Boston too?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: What else do we border West Roxbury, Boston?
Speaker 3: That's it? Yeah, just Boston and Newton are the only
Speaker 3: two towns that we that we make contact with.
Speaker 2: So you do as police talk to the others, or
Speaker 2: chiefs talk to chiefs, politicians talk to politicians, or we
Speaker 2: all on our own in our towns and cities and
Speaker 2: kind of really.
Speaker 3: So we belong to several different communications, you know, media
Speaker 3: venues that we communicate with other communities. One example is
Speaker 3: the Fusion Center, right, and it's and that's specifically targeting
Speaker 3: you know, terrorists, intel intelligence. So Brookline will communicate with
Speaker 3: the Fusion Center, and the Future Center is made up
Speaker 3: of several different agencies. I can't really go into specific tay,
Speaker 3: so what's what they share? But we are constantly communicating
Speaker 3: with our neighbors. For example, the breaks that we have
Speaker 3: had recently. We in constant communication with Newton PD because
Speaker 3: it appears that these subjects maybe targeting more affluent communities, right,
Speaker 3: so we want to make sure we're sharing the same
Speaker 3: information with the towns that are similar to us, like.
Speaker 2: Newton, okay, and I know Weston now is getting bits
Speaker 2: picking up in Western so we start looking at Brookline, Newton, Weston, Wellesley.
Speaker 2: This is just common sense, like some things in life,
Speaker 2: is just common sense. Sometimes common sense is so common anymore.
Speaker 2: But you're right to say that they're hitting the higher
Speaker 2: end zip codes.
Speaker 3: And what's interesting about this group is there's no real pattern.
Speaker 2: You can't figure out the patent at this point.
Speaker 3: You can't. So they'll hit, you know, a town local
Speaker 3: to the Boston area, but then they'll move to a
Speaker 3: different region and.
Speaker 2: Hit that and hit that area and then come back.
Speaker 3: And then come back eventually. Yeah. So, although there is
Speaker 3: a lot of discussion about it recently, we've only been
Speaker 3: calendar year twenty twenty four. You know, we based on
Speaker 3: the modus operendi, the mo of the incident, we really
Speaker 3: only have one weekend where where there was suspicious activity
Speaker 3: and there was a break and that was the first
Speaker 3: week of March. Prior to that calendar year twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: there was only there was only two incidents that we
Speaker 3: can match the same modus OPERENDI too.
Speaker 2: So when we heard that it was up to maybe
Speaker 2: close to seven with this one gang, it's up to
Speaker 2: maybe four.
Speaker 3: I can't speak to other communities, no, just.
Speaker 2: In Brooklyn because I thought on the zoom meaning I
Speaker 2: heard seven.
Speaker 5: I think that went back through twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: Through Do you think these guys are around twenty two?
Speaker 2: This is a new group.
Speaker 5: It sounds like it's it may not be the same
Speaker 5: actual people, but it's the same emo. It's the same
Speaker 5: same type of crime. And we see house breaks from
Speaker 5: time to time that I don't know, let's call it
Speaker 5: just a typical house break. These seem to be more sophisticated,
Speaker 5: better planned out, better equipment there in and out. They
Speaker 5: know exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 2: But out of that video that I saw that we
Speaker 2: alsaw these are not Americans speaking people.
Speaker 3: We know that right, correct?
Speaker 2: Okay, So, like I said, some of my clients listen
Speaker 2: to it seemed like it was coming out of Central
Speaker 2: America and they, as I hear, they have what's the
Speaker 2: device that can lock down your Wi Fi?
Speaker 5: They have some sort of a jammer, at least we
Speaker 5: believe in some cases there have been Wi Fi jammers
Speaker 5: which can affect wireless security cameras.
Speaker 2: So and we've had other break ins in our areas.
Speaker 2: So it's just become what our areas just many areas,
Speaker 2: not just our area, many areas. It's just a target
Speaker 2: for what let's go rob Look, I'm a product of
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. Right when your house got robbed in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two or seventy and you're a teenager, typically
Speaker 2: you weren't home. Typically there were professional robbers. If there
Speaker 2: was such a thing as professional robbers, I guess that's
Speaker 2: what the profession was. A robbers. They weren't going to
Speaker 2: come in your house at night time. They came during
Speaker 2: the day. And I think everybody would agree. If you're
Speaker 2: going to rob me and I'm insured during the day,
Speaker 2: then go rob me. But this nighttime stuff is nothing.
Speaker 2: Nobody likes this.
Speaker 3: That's the scariest thing about it is when they come
Speaker 3: in when someone's home, right, so they'll they'll pick larger
Speaker 3: homes just for that for that reason. If somebody is
Speaker 3: home there on the other side of the of the house.
Speaker 3: We're talking about, you know, really large properties.
Speaker 2: Here, I would know that. I'm just a builder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a builder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually the one building those large homes if
Speaker 2: you're regaling.
Speaker 3: But that's the most that's the scariest part is the
Speaker 3: fact that's, you know, the idea that somebody will are
Speaker 3: brazen enough to come in while you're home.
Speaker 2: You use the right word, you know, word I use
Speaker 2: that's really ballsy.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I can't say that yet.
Speaker 2: I know that's a girl. I just use it real. Okay,
Speaker 2: what made you guys want to be com police officers?
Speaker 3: Well, I grew up in Brookline. I grew up in
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can refer to it as
Speaker 3: the point and yeah point, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So my my mother grew up in the same house,
Speaker 3: so we were second generation in the same house. And
Speaker 3: I knew all the neighborhood cops.
Speaker 2: So it's not like your dad was a cops my dad.
Speaker 3: No, My dad was a custodian at Nina High School
Speaker 3: and my mother worked for Beth Israel in the human
Speaker 3: resources division, and we just knew all the neighborhood cops.
Speaker 3: And it just seemed like and you have to understand,
Speaker 3: I'm much. I'm a product of the eighties, right right,
Speaker 3: and I'm too old.
Speaker 2: No what how old? I'm fifty nine? What are you?
Speaker 3: I'm forty six. I just turned I feel really bad.
Speaker 3: Few not okay, So you don't to understand. Back in
Speaker 3: the eighties and nineties, what was the most popular television
Speaker 3: show on Fox? It was Cops? Right, So that's where
Speaker 3: I got all my internet. This is pre this is
Speaker 3: pre internet. I couldn't google anything back then, Cindy, I hear.
Speaker 3: So that was all my information was watching Cops and
Speaker 3: it seemed exciting, and that's googling band.
Speaker 2: I was a lesbian builder.
Speaker 3: Google it. Oh is that right?
Speaker 2: You know I'm married with two kids. Okay, yeah, she
Speaker 2: must be gaged to the building. No, I get it,
Speaker 2: I get it. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: So that was this preaked my interest. I went to
Speaker 3: college for criminal justice, and I know I was nine
Speaker 3: months out of out of college when I took the exam.
Speaker 2: All right, hold that off, one man, we gotta go
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Speaker 2: You think it's cool left the food. Welcome back to
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Speaker 2: Sidney stump On and I'm here with my daughter Samantha,
Speaker 2: and I'm here with who good guys.
Speaker 3: Sergeant Rob de Sario Brookline pet Get used to.
Speaker 5: Radio Deputy Superintendent Paul cam Okay.
Speaker 2: That's a little bit of an agy song, as people
Speaker 2: would say that we just broke in, but it's it
Speaker 2: has a lot of meeting right like this the stuff
Speaker 2: that's going around the whole country. That song took some criticism.
Speaker 2: Friend of mine, Christy No South Dakota Governor got right
Speaker 2: behind him and stood behind that song was now racial,
Speaker 2: nothing about it. It was just it's called respect, respect of
Speaker 2: the law. And that's what we've lost here. We've lost
Speaker 2: law and order in respecting the men in blue and
Speaker 2: the women in blue. Right. That's why I asked you
Speaker 2: why you know you became a cop, and that was
Speaker 2: your answer. Now fast forward today. Like people always ask me,
Speaker 2: if you had a due over Cindy, would you change
Speaker 2: your career? My answers always know I wouldn't change a thing.
Speaker 2: Given the opportunity today, twenty three years old, coming out
Speaker 2: of college twenty one, twenty two, would you have picked
Speaker 2: the same not knowing.
Speaker 3: What you know now? And that's a very difficult question.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like asking a lot of I can ask
Speaker 2: you some easy one, like let's go.
Speaker 3: I like difficult. Okay, you got it. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of positives to the police service, and I'm glad I
Speaker 3: got into it when I did. But if you know,
Speaker 3: if I was there were different options for me today
Speaker 3: if I was in the same position. So I kind
Speaker 3: of dodged your questions.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna answer the question. I'm gonna ask the
Speaker 2: question differently. Okay, do you feel like when you first
Speaker 2: became a police officer there was more of a respect factor?
Speaker 2: And let me clarify something to all my listeners. There's
Speaker 2: always gonna be good cops and bad cops, and there's
Speaker 2: always gonna be good doctors and bad doctors, and good
Speaker 2: lawyers and bad lawyers, and good accountants and bad accountants
Speaker 2: and good people and bad people, good builders and bad buildings,
Speaker 2: and good builders and bad builders, and good brokers and
Speaker 2: bad brokers, and good financial advisors and bad financial advisors. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's just the way of the world. Most cops I've
Speaker 2: ever known in my both cities Newtonberg Line have been
Speaker 2: great guys. Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If I got pulled over, guess what, guys, I was speeding.
Speaker 2: I didn't sit there and say what I do and
Speaker 2: play stupid. My father said, listen, you get pulled over,
Speaker 2: just admit what you did and maybe the cop will
Speaker 2: be nice enough to let you go with a warning
Speaker 2: and maybe not. But own yourself, hold yourself accountable. That
Speaker 2: Hammond Street, I've probably been pulled over, were anybody else
Speaker 2: on Hammond Street? Okay in all those years, yep? I
Speaker 2: know what they did, you know. And again, you know,
Speaker 2: I've been a building here for so long, so every
Speaker 2: once in a while, you know, they do detail. They
Speaker 2: I'd get a break, Sidney, just keep driving, slow it down,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and yell at me like
Speaker 2: slow it down, not nicely. You know, he's right, slow
Speaker 2: it down. He's saving my life and somebody else's life.
Speaker 2: So you know, I always say, look at if you
Speaker 2: have a reason to feel the cops, then you should
Speaker 2: feel cops. Not a drug dealer, not killing people. I'm
Speaker 2: not doing anything wrong, So I don't feel you guys, right,
Speaker 2: and the story.
Speaker 3: And what's the worst that can happen? You receive a citation,
Speaker 3: what's the big deal?
Speaker 2: Okay? And my insurance goes up. But again, seriously, like,
Speaker 2: just hold yourself accountable.
Speaker 3: I think the attitude towards the police as more society
Speaker 3: based than it is an actual occupation.
Speaker 2: I just so disrespected out there. Come on, he's so
Speaker 2: disrespected there.
Speaker 3: So I came on in a very unique position. So
Speaker 3: I was in the academy when September eleventh happened.
Speaker 2: And if you remember, oh, you mean a day that
Speaker 2: everybody forgets this country. Yeah, oh and the other the
Speaker 2: other people that say we did this ourselves.
Speaker 3: It was an inside job.
Speaker 2: It was an inside job. Ye, September eleventh.
Speaker 3: I was in the academy. So I was at in
Speaker 3: and we were graduating in November. So two months after
Speaker 3: September eleventh, we were graduating. So if you remember, everybody
Speaker 3: had flags on their cars, everybody was very paid. The
Speaker 3: country came together everybody loved firefighters, but everybody loved cops
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of cops that died that day too,
Speaker 3: and who ran.
Speaker 2: By the way, are still losing their lives from nine
Speaker 2: to eleven from breathing in all that from from psych
Speaker 2: guys that came out afterwards and cleaned it up. No
Speaker 2: one wants to know that. No one remembers that because
Speaker 2: they don't talk about anymore.
Speaker 3: So when I came on, I just thought that was normal.
Speaker 3: So when I graduated in November, I had people by
Speaker 3: and my coffee I don't go, don't and shake in
Speaker 3: my hand, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: You felt proud and it was very it was very proper.
Speaker 3: But I just thought that was normal, Yeah, welcome, because
Speaker 3: I didn't know any better. But then some of the
Speaker 3: older guys like, yeah, this is not how it usually goes.
Speaker 3: But everybody was still, you know, coming off the nine
Speaker 3: to eleven hangover that they were just kind of like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that hangover might be coming again. I have no
Speaker 2: proof of anything, so I'm not in discriminating myself, but
Speaker 2: the way you see the country going down, this one
Speaker 2: phase me and I wouldn't phase anybody at this point.
Speaker 2: So all I'm saying. I was trying to get to
Speaker 2: the point that if anybody that has stayed on, I
Speaker 2: know Brookline Newton as we were talking earlier, have left
Speaker 2: the force three years off of thirty years. Now, when
Speaker 2: you do your thirty years, you're full pensioned out. Correct,
Speaker 2: thirty two years thy two years. You have to be
Speaker 2: a certain age too, you have to be fifty five. Okay,
Speaker 2: so if you live, if you leave two three years earlier,
Speaker 2: what is that a difference in a paycheck?
Speaker 3: It's a big difference. Correct, You know, you're going from
Speaker 3: eighty percent, so maybe even into the sixties.
Speaker 5: Okay, about two and a half percent.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a big deal. That's a big deal at
Speaker 2: the end, after you serve for thirty two years and
Speaker 2: you leave two three years early because you can't take
Speaker 2: any more stress, right, the stress the job. But the
Speaker 2: big one was nobody had your backs. The politicians didn't
Speaker 2: have your backs. The mayor is the this the that
Speaker 2: they no one has your back, So you're out there
Speaker 2: fighting a fight alone. And the things I heard from
Speaker 2: many community cops is like I'm out, I'm done, it's
Speaker 2: not worth it. I'm not going to get sued I'm
Speaker 2: not putting my life on the line if I do something,
Speaker 2: if I'm found guilty, I could end up in jail.
Speaker 2: So I'm done.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of the number one issue that I
Speaker 3: see is people are afraid to do that you're supposed
Speaker 3: to do because of being It's not so much criminal changes,
Speaker 3: it's more being sued. You know. I put hands on
Speaker 3: this person, you know, and I was justified.
Speaker 2: And everybody's going to camera out.
Speaker 3: Everyone's got a camera too, so.
Speaker 2: And then they'll add it out what they don't want
Speaker 2: you to see, right, the truth.
Speaker 3: Right, everything is, everything is added, there's no question, and
Speaker 3: then everything is out of context too. And only the
Speaker 3: TikTok video was only fifteen to twenty seconds, so everything
Speaker 3: that led up to that fifteen and twenty seconds has
Speaker 3: been heeded out. So yeah, it's a completely different world.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't like that when I came on. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure the deputy, you know, when he came on,
Speaker 3: they were still on horseback.
Speaker 2: But how long you've been on deputy.
Speaker 5: Twenty five years? I came on in ninety.
Speaker 4: Eight and a nice way of calling him old, I
Speaker 4: would never I would never do that.
Speaker 2: It's got a custom the game here. All right, here's
Speaker 2: a question to you, the same question. You like your job.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 5: It's there's been ups and downs for sure. And you
Speaker 5: know he mentioned September eleventh, when you know after that,
Speaker 5: there was there were, there were.
Speaker 2: It was a great feeling. America came together.
Speaker 5: You know, marathon bombing was the same thing. After the
Speaker 5: marathon bombing.
Speaker 1: Yeap.
Speaker 2: Most people forget that one too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was in a Twitter room recently. Yeah, they said
Speaker 2: in the Twitter room, Yeah, that was French people that
Speaker 2: did that. I'm like, we did you read that? You idiot?
Speaker 2: Like wire you coming up? I'm on that stupid thing,
Speaker 2: fighting with people every night, Like I need to get
Speaker 2: a life, right raise I get off that Twitter right now.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm not getting off. There's no fight.
Speaker 2: I won't fight, Okay. So this is what I don't understand, guys.
Speaker 2: You know, when you get into these debates for people,
Speaker 2: they'll say, well, crime's down one percent. Well maybe it's
Speaker 2: down one percent in your area, but it's up in
Speaker 2: our area. So how do they say crimes down one percent?
Speaker 2: Not that's a big swing, by the way, one percent.
Speaker 2: I'm not taking those odds, by the way one percent
Speaker 2: is not the odds I want to take. Is crime
Speaker 2: up in our area?
Speaker 5: So in Brookline, yeah, I think crime is up over
Speaker 5: the last couple of years. Okay, not up dramatically, but
Speaker 5: certainly not down.
Speaker 2: Really, because I don't remember all these home breakings, and
Speaker 2: I build most these homes, these new homes, the last
Speaker 2: thirty six years here, so I don't recall this is
Speaker 2: this is all Google crazy to me. This is not
Speaker 2: something I recall.
Speaker 5: You have.
Speaker 2: Of course you heard about a break in, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't like five guys running through a backyard with backpacks
Speaker 2: like I never saw that before.
Speaker 5: Well, I also think certain types of crimes are going
Speaker 5: to make a bigger impact.
Speaker 3: Right If you leave your.
Speaker 5: Car unlocked and you come out in the morning and
Speaker 5: someone has rifle through your car and they slow your
Speaker 5: change they had in the center console, you don't feel
Speaker 5: good about that. But it's not quite the same thing
Speaker 5: as if you learn that someone broke into your next
Speaker 5: door neighbors home while the home while the residents were
Speaker 5: in the house, And that's the kind of thing that
Speaker 5: that makes a huge impact. You know that that contributes
Speaker 5: to fear of crime in a way that someone's stealing
Speaker 5: loose change from your car isn't going to do so
Speaker 5: it You know that, you know, even if the percentages,
Speaker 5: you know, if the crime rate stays exactly the same,
Speaker 5: the type of crime makes it makes a huge difference.
Speaker 2: Of you know, similar people applying for licensed to care
Speaker 2: in auto.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there is an increase, substantial increase.
Speaker 2: Yes, And how hard is it now in the town
Speaker 2: of Brookline to get a license to carry?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not the one who is them, but uh,
Speaker 5: you know, the Supreme Court, the Bruined decision came out
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago that that made it easier
Speaker 5: to get a license to carry.
Speaker 2: As long as you're a good person. Yeah, with no record,
Speaker 2: no background, no nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I forget exactly what. But there's a suit suitabil.
Speaker 2: I thought I gotta go to break com Siddy stompoint
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Speaker 2: And Welcome to Tough as Nails And I'm Sydney Stumpone.
Speaker 2: You're at WBZ News Radio ten thirty. I'm here with
Speaker 2: Maantha and.
Speaker 5: Deputy Superintendent Paul Campbell from the Brookline Police Department.
Speaker 3: And Sajara rob DeSario from Brooklyn Peuty.
Speaker 2: Okay, so people are applying for licenses and that amendment
Speaker 2: is being honored.
Speaker 5: Yes, the standard to evaluate who gets a license to
Speaker 5: carry has changed, and so it is there.
Speaker 3: It's easier now to get a license care.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about that now, because I'm debating this
Speaker 2: with a lot of people across the country on Twitter spaces.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about there are states that have what we
Speaker 2: used to call the King of the Castle law. Right,
Speaker 2: you came in my home. I live in Texas, I
Speaker 2: live in Florida. Certain states we have Massachusetts, can somebody explain.
Speaker 2: Let's choose me. Hypothetically, somebody breaks into my home. What
Speaker 2: is the first thing I'm supposed to do. Let's give
Speaker 2: people the rundown on what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 5: To your knowledge, call nine one one and if you
Speaker 5: can't get out of the house.
Speaker 2: Okay, So remember I have a gun, Right, I can
Speaker 2: protect myself. Hypothetically, Right, I have to get to a
Speaker 2: phone to call you. But maybe I'm in the shower.
Speaker 2: I just got the shower. I can't get to a
Speaker 2: phone to call you, but I'm fine not to have
Speaker 2: my gun in the bathroom. Hypothetically you're coming. Let's say
Speaker 2: I can't get out of the bathroom. I can't get
Speaker 2: to a phone and call you. I hit the panic button,
Speaker 2: but these thieves have a set way of knocking down
Speaker 2: my Wi Fi system. What happens next if I can't
Speaker 2: get to safety, I can't get out of the house, right,
Speaker 2: because that's the rules. I'm supposed to get out of
Speaker 2: the house if I can't call you because half our
Speaker 2: WiFi sometimes doesn't work in any ways. Right, You're like
Speaker 2: home phones are important. People put home phones back in
Speaker 2: your houses. Right, that's important. If I can't get out
Speaker 2: of the house and go the way you just told me,
Speaker 2: and I can't get to I'm locked in the bathroom, hypothetically,
Speaker 2: what do I do next? Now you come in the bathroom?
Speaker 2: What are my rights? Do I have any rights? Or
Speaker 2: really no rights? Still? What is the how's this? How's this?
Speaker 3: Tell me? What the what the statue reads? Here?
Speaker 2: What is do we know what it really reads because
Speaker 2: it seems like everybody interprets it differently or do we
Speaker 2: not really have an answer? In Massachusetts?
Speaker 3: So if you're out and about the in society, pathetically, hypothetically,
Speaker 3: if you're out and about in society, you have a
Speaker 3: duty to retreat if you if there's what does that
Speaker 3: mean retreat? You need to remove yourself from whatever the
Speaker 3: situation is.
Speaker 2: And what if the person's on my back? Now I
Speaker 2: can't retreat.
Speaker 3: But then you have every right to defend yourself.
Speaker 2: And will I get arrested when the police come to
Speaker 2: the house until you figure out what happened, what will happen.
Speaker 3: Or hypothetic just hypothetic, will be arrested? I'll be arrested. No,
Speaker 3: it depends on when, it depends on when you call
Speaker 3: it quits. Right, So there's a you have. You have
Speaker 3: every right to defend yourself. If you're on the street
Speaker 3: and you're being assaulted or something, you can defend yourself, right,
Speaker 3: you have to take a reasonable means to defend yourself.
Speaker 3: Anything past that reasonableness.
Speaker 2: But then again, looks at that what's reasonable? What isn't reasonable?
Speaker 3: Right? I can't speak to what a DA would do,
Speaker 3: but as a responding police officer, I'm obviously pete. Let's
Speaker 3: say everybody separated. I'm interviewing this person. I'm interviewing this
Speaker 3: person I'm interviewing witnesses that were on the street or
Speaker 3: on the train. Tell me what happened. Everybody gets pulled in.
Speaker 3: Everybody gets pulled in, unless that might be hypothetically dead. Now,
Speaker 3: if there's any question whatsoever, the officer's going to write
Speaker 3: up the report and it's going to submit it to
Speaker 3: the ADA in the eight or the clerk magistrate, and
Speaker 3: they're going to decide whether or not our charges should
Speaker 3: be filed against you. And I think for the police,
Speaker 3: that's that that's the simplest, easiest way for us to
Speaker 3: determine because point.
Speaker 2: About, I guess that this is my home. I pay
Speaker 2: taxes here. This is where I'm supposed to come home
Speaker 2: and feel safe. Everybody walks the door. It's supposed to be. Okay,
Speaker 2: I got enough stress at work all day, enough stress
Speaker 2: with the kids all day. Now, I want to come
Speaker 2: home and I want to feel safe where a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't feel safe anymore. But okay, I get
Speaker 2: the way I interpret the law, and I've read it
Speaker 2: five times. I have to be you have to pretty
Speaker 2: much be right on top of me as a license
Speaker 2: holder to use that weapon. That's the way I'm interpreting it.
Speaker 2: And then the other interpretation is you come in and
Speaker 2: you you kill me, or I kill you. I kill you. No,
Speaker 2: I kill you. You don't kill me, okay, because then
Speaker 2: you'd be sued. It's my home. I kill you because
Speaker 2: you're right on top of me. I get my gun
Speaker 2: out and somehow I put the ball through your belly somehow, Right,
Speaker 2: I watched a lot of movies, right, so I'm going
Speaker 2: buy movies. Okay, Now your wife comes out, your mother,
Speaker 2: your father, your sister, your and I'm sued civilly because
Speaker 2: that's coming next, especially if there's something to get, which
Speaker 2: is insurance money.
Speaker 3: Right, So I don't have that problem because I don't
Speaker 3: have But you don't have anything, so you can't for anything.
Speaker 2: But if you own a home, you do have something.
Speaker 3: Right, and maybe the deputy can talk because but there
Speaker 3: is a there is a castle doctrine, whereas if you're
Speaker 3: there's a certain level of threat that you are being
Speaker 3: threatened in your home. So one of the things they
Speaker 3: have to evaluate, let's say the responding officer of response
Speaker 3: to my home, they have to evaluate the motive, Right,
Speaker 3: what was the person breaking into the house for? Is
Speaker 3: he a simple petty theft or Is he going to
Speaker 3: kill me?
Speaker 1: Is he is? He is?
Speaker 3: There social media posts about how he hates sageant Rob
Speaker 3: and he is going to get him at any Okay,
Speaker 3: you've got to get revenge, right. So there's a lot
Speaker 3: of different there's not one clear black and white answer.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of a lot of gray, and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of difference.
Speaker 2: So five people come in your house, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it's you know, what is their motive? Why are
Speaker 3: they coming into my house? Does my house look dilapidated?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: Are they squatters? As opposed to another problem?
Speaker 2: We have the problems we have here in the States.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, is my house lived in? I mean,
Speaker 3: are my windows boarded up? Can someone wrongfully think that my.
Speaker 2: Let's hypothetically say it's a beautiful class to upper class neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Five people lights, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And they come in. You know they're asking they're asking
Speaker 3: for trouble. You know, you're breaking into someone's house with
Speaker 3: the TV on and the kids toys in the front
Speaker 3: yard and a swim set in the backyard, and there's
Speaker 3: cars in the driveway.
Speaker 2: Can we can we just establish here that every DA
Speaker 2: is going to read our laws differently and proceed differently.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's etched in stone correct the way
Speaker 2: I interpret it, and I like little. I've read it
Speaker 2: five times and I've asked many people the same question,
Speaker 2: and everybody's got a different interpretation. We're in Florida, Texas.
Speaker 2: Even your car is part of your home.
Speaker 3: Just think broke in is Norfolk County. In Boston, Suffolk County,
Speaker 3: you have two separate das there. You commit a shoplifting
Speaker 3: on one side of kalm Av, there's no you know,
Speaker 3: the AD will not prosecute certain crimes. I don't know.
Speaker 3: If you remember the previous District Attorney for Suffer County,
Speaker 3: she will not prosecute certain crimes. But that's that side
Speaker 3: of Commav. That's Suffolk County. You cross the street to
Speaker 3: Brookline side of Kalmav and you shoplift there. The Norfolk
Speaker 3: County DA will prosecute shoplifting calls.
Speaker 2: So there's a.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't I don't know. I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: But there was a lot of confusion, especially with the
Speaker 3: encampment on the under the bu bridge. If you remember,
Speaker 3: a lot of people were coming over into Brookline to
Speaker 3: shoplifts because there's convenient you just cross over there, so
Speaker 3: we would stop them after the shoplifting. We would stop them.
Speaker 3: In some cases we would arrest them. In some cases
Speaker 3: we would summon them in and they were mystified by
Speaker 3: the fact that we were taking any criminal action at all,
Speaker 3: and we would have to explain to them, this is Brookline,
Speaker 3: this is Norfolk County. That side of the street is
Speaker 3: Suffolk County.
Speaker 2: So now we're all suffering.
Speaker 3: Well, to your point, it varies by different das in
Speaker 3: different counties, not just different states.
Speaker 2: Okay, So when Gucci says to me, hey, it's not
Speaker 2: Boat's but a pleasure doing business with you. But we're
Speaker 2: stepping out of Bloomingdale's now because we're losing more than
Speaker 2: we're selling. And one of my best girlfriends leaves Bloomingdale's
Speaker 2: after twenty something years and says, I'm not looking at
Speaker 2: another gun. I'm not looking at another gun in here
Speaker 2: where they tell me to turn my back while they
Speaker 2: take thousands of dollars worth of clothing and left. And
Speaker 2: by the way, her husband happens to be a sogyant
Speaker 2: in Newton. Right that something happened in Newton didn't have
Speaker 2: their backs either, Right, they're still on they're still onto
Speaker 2: their investigation. Right, I did nothing wrong, nothing wrong, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: but it is what it is. So I just see,
Speaker 2: this is what I want. Is it so bad for
Speaker 2: me to want law and order? Is this so bad
Speaker 2: that I want to make sure and I call nine
Speaker 2: to one one the cops are coming, whether I'm having
Speaker 2: a heart attack, whether my houseband is having a stroke,
Speaker 2: whether we're being broken into? Is that so much? I
Speaker 2: think most people want that?
Speaker 3: So that comes back to staffing, right, So most police
Speaker 3: departments are struggling to recruit people to do the job.
Speaker 2: No, that's just civil service in Brookline that you have
Speaker 2: to live here for one year to become a Brookline
Speaker 2: police officer, which I think somebody should go in there
Speaker 2: and change that immediately under an emergency that we need
Speaker 2: fourteen Look, but.
Speaker 3: It's not unique to Brookline though, it's not unique to
Speaker 3: civil service communities. Everybody is struggling for first for police officers.
Speaker 2: Okay, but no matter what, stay but when you put
Speaker 2: a year delay that you have to live in Brookline,
Speaker 2: and I'm using Brookline as example, right, because you guys
Speaker 2: work for Brookline, I live in Brookline. That law is
Speaker 2: going to go right, and the whole that thought we're
Speaker 2: going to go to break. It's always sticking that stupid
Speaker 2: thing in my face. I'm send me stumbling and listening
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Speaker 3: Sergeant Robber sorry O Brookline PD.
Speaker 5: That be Superintendent Paul Campbell, Brookline.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we're just talking about uh civil service and
Speaker 3: how you have to reside in the town for a
Speaker 3: year before you can get residency preference.
Speaker 2: So that was that a thing? What's that? Why is
Speaker 2: that a thing? We'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 2: That's been the ruling since Look at Brookline's being run
Speaker 2: like it's still eighteen hundred. Okay, it's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: We need a meer. Okay, it might have worked.
Speaker 3: Why don't you might have worked for Why don't you
Speaker 3: be merrima?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanna been mere?
Speaker 4: Why not you have a lot of opinions do.
Speaker 2: Because I didn't run the state like it's nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 2: no play. But okay, so here's a young kid or
Speaker 2: young girl, young man, woman, whatever, how theyre going to
Speaker 2: afford to pay the rent and brook line for a
Speaker 2: year to live here to become a police officer. Tell
Speaker 2: me I'm alias.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting that you say that because when I
Speaker 3: was taking the exam back in the nineteen hundreds, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of cri There was a lot of
Speaker 3: competition for the for the police and fire job up
Speaker 3: not even job. There was a lot of competition. You
Speaker 3: were competing with, you know, five or six hundred other residents.
Speaker 3: So the only thing that residency gives you is a preference.
Speaker 3: You go to the top of the list via civil
Speaker 3: service law rules, you go to the top of the
Speaker 3: list if you have resided in the town. Now, that
Speaker 3: doesn't stop anybody from taking the exam and being put
Speaker 3: on the non residence list.
Speaker 2: I tried that with one of Chan's friends. They said
Speaker 2: to me, verbatim, he's got to live in Berkeley in order.
Speaker 3: To get residency preference. Not to get higher, you.
Speaker 2: Need police officers. So we get rid of all those
Speaker 2: laws right now, how about an emergency in junction?
Speaker 3: So, well, we don't need emergency. I'll leave this to
Speaker 3: the deputy to explain my deputy process is because he so.
Speaker 5: Right now, there is a discussion for Brookline to leave
Speaker 5: civil service, and there's let's call it an agreement and
Speaker 5: principle between management and the union to exit civil service.
Speaker 5: So I do think in this year, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 5: you'll probably see Brookline leave civil service. And the problem
Speaker 5: that you're describing is not unique to Brookline. There are
Speaker 5: a number of communities. If you were to ask ten
Speaker 5: years ago the surrounding communities, how many of them are
Speaker 5: in civil service? The answer would have been just about
Speaker 5: all of them. And now people are leaving civil service
Speaker 5: and drove because of the situation that you're describing. It
Speaker 5: does it really does hinder your ability to run an
Speaker 5: efficient and effective police department.
Speaker 3: You were asking it was the value good?
Speaker 5: You were asking what was the value of being?
Speaker 2: Why was that even created? So again, we're running Brookline
Speaker 2: like it's seventeen eighteen hundred. Okay, it's twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: packing bags.
Speaker 3: Because you're about to get a history lesson All right, Well,
Speaker 3: I take the history lesson.
Speaker 5: Yeah, think I do think years ago there was real
Speaker 5: value in having a resonant preference. You get people police
Speaker 5: in the community who are from the community, which is great,
Speaker 5: which I think there's real value in that.
Speaker 2: Because they knew the streets, they understood the neighborhoods, they
Speaker 2: understood the people.
Speaker 5: That's exactly right. And but where we've gotten away from
Speaker 5: that now and in some community like Brookline, there's.
Speaker 2: We're being very careful what we say here right now, there's.
Speaker 5: Maybe less middle class in Brookline. You know, I grew
Speaker 5: up in Brookline, Rob grew.
Speaker 2: Yeah the booklist, and everybody always thought that Brookline's rich,
Speaker 2: Newton's rich. That's balloney, Okay. We had opera, we had
Speaker 2: middle and we had projects, and I forgets that, Okay,
Speaker 2: Like we have projects in Brookline, we have the projects
Speaker 2: in Newton. I mean, like people just think because we
Speaker 2: live in this area that everybody's super rich. By the way,
Speaker 2: public housing, there is public housing, and look at there's
Speaker 2: generational wealth money here for sure. But I can tell
Speaker 2: you this as a builder of thirty six years, my
Speaker 2: clients are all hard working people, hard working people that
Speaker 2: go out there and bust their hump every day to
Speaker 2: give their families a better life. That's really the truth.
Speaker 2: And I'm one of those people that have been busting
Speaker 2: my humb out there for thirty six years.
Speaker 3: But the people being raised here, the kids that are
Speaker 3: being raised in Brookline, don't want the civil service jobs.
Speaker 2: They don't want any jobs. They want it for YouTube famous.
Speaker 2: They want to be I don't know. They want to
Speaker 2: tell us how to live our lives. They want to
Speaker 2: be my What do I get on link life coach?
Speaker 2: They want to be my life coach. I get twenty
Speaker 2: year olds that want to be my life coach? What
Speaker 2: are you going to teach me? I just gotta laugh
Speaker 2: at this next generation, a bunch of aliens as I
Speaker 2: call them. But as much as they don't want to
Speaker 2: be police officers, they don't want to be plumbers, electricians.
Speaker 2: And they chase you guys either. I mean, we're all doing.
Speaker 3: Two young kids. My son is eleven, he'll be turned
Speaker 3: eleven this year, and I'm really advocating for the trade
Speaker 3: or the trade.
Speaker 2: You know, unless the kid is an ab student. You
Speaker 2: know who your children are. And I always say this
Speaker 2: to parents, and I run the game for fourteen years.
Speaker 2: If you are a kid to be a next question, No,
Speaker 2: next question, absolutely no, No, it's funny unless things changed
Speaker 2: growing up.
Speaker 3: I mean, like you know, we need you know, you
Speaker 3: know four or five, six, seven, yea, a copy wanted
Speaker 3: to be a cop?
Speaker 2: Ninety five?
Speaker 4: Did they talk about wanting to be a copy of kids?
Speaker 3: So now I think he's more Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: what he wants to do now, but.
Speaker 2: You know what here, here's what it comes down to
Speaker 2: with kids today is we got to go back to
Speaker 2: teaching our kids' values, try to teach them financial literacy,
Speaker 2: get them off these devices, and put them back to work.
Speaker 2: I'm sure everybody in this room, including my daughter, that's
Speaker 2: had a privileged life, had a job by sixteen, okay,
Speaker 2: working up bloom me deals, whether she liked to. She
Speaker 2: got a car. That car's gotta run on gas, right, Sam,
Speaker 2: go find a way to pay for the guests.
Speaker 3: But that's that's not the that's not the trend. It's
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's I'm gonna I think I think,
Speaker 3: you know, especially Generation X, they don't.
Speaker 2: Why keep changing these generations? What do you but, Sammy,
Speaker 2: what are you called? Generation?
Speaker 4: I don't know?
Speaker 2: Actually now, well I'm a baby boomer. So what do
Speaker 2: you I have to I'd have to google it x. Well,
Speaker 2: anything under me, anything under the age of forty is
Speaker 2: all crazy. And I think thirty five thirty six the
Speaker 2: tipping point, and anything out of thirty five is absolutely aliens.
Speaker 3: We're doing the disservice by not forcing them into oh.
Speaker 2: Playing the parents.
Speaker 3: You got to go get a job.
Speaker 2: So what did we do different? I asked myself all
Speaker 2: the time, and I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: When my antients had nothing, so you know, we had zero,
Speaker 3: We had nothing, Okay, So like we didn't have a choice.
Speaker 3: If you wanted back to school clothes, you had to
Speaker 3: go get it. At fourteen, you had to get.
Speaker 2: A job shining shoes, delivery papers.
Speaker 3: But every time of Morgan's pharmacy, of course I do.
Speaker 3: That's why I work, Okay for sure.
Speaker 2: So here here's the problem though, This is what I
Speaker 2: think the problem is.
Speaker 3: We know too much.
Speaker 2: It came out of our generations, things that we're hitting
Speaker 2: under the copy right. I call my parents and my
Speaker 2: grandparents' generation the hitting generation. But unfortunately ancestries bringing all
Speaker 2: everything out, like, oh, I have a first constant over here,
Speaker 2: didn't know that existed? Oh I got a brother over
Speaker 2: here or a sister right, Okay, didn't know that existed.
Speaker 2: They like to hit in generation. I think my generation
Speaker 2: found out more about coaches and teachers and molestation and
Speaker 2: and things going on in people's homes that shouldn't have
Speaker 2: been going on. And I think that's when we got
Speaker 2: nervous and said, I want to protect my kids from
Speaker 2: any of that craziness. Right right, bubble wraps, I was
Speaker 2: a helicopter. I'll be the first admit that I am too,
Speaker 2: and you are too. I mean, I can't avoid it
Speaker 2: like that because you see the real world every day
Speaker 2: exactly right, But and so do not I because see
Speaker 2: the difference is I work in construction and don't get
Speaker 2: realer than that. You see the drug problems, You see
Speaker 2: the alcohol problems out here, You see me holding my
Speaker 2: guys up straight, you know what I mean. It's got
Speaker 2: better over time because they're getting older, but the epidemic
Speaker 2: and drugs and alcohol and construction have always been huge.
Speaker 2: So I've had to deal with this my whole thirty
Speaker 2: six year career. Right, I don't get to go to
Speaker 2: work with guys that graduate Brown, Mit and Harvard. Let's
Speaker 2: just call it the wait is Are they all great guys? Absolutely,
Speaker 2: I'd rather work with those guys all day long than
Speaker 2: the elite, because these guys keep it real, which keeps
Speaker 2: all of our lives real.
Speaker 3: And they're good guys.
Speaker 2: Just because a guy runs into a drug problem, when
Speaker 2: alcohol problem doesn't make them a bad or her a
Speaker 2: bad person.
Speaker 3: You just go get help.
Speaker 2: It's a disease like gaming else. But look, I've never
Speaker 2: seen what I've seen the last couple of years. Here
Speaker 2: every job of mine's getting hit. I never had jobs
Speaker 2: getting hit. We've probably lost in the last two three years,
Speaker 2: well over a quarter of a million dollars worth of products.
Speaker 2: And then the police say, why don't you call me, Cindy?
Speaker 2: What are you going to do? Why am I going
Speaker 2: to waste your time on a call because we got robbed.
Speaker 2: I'm not putting the insurance claimant. We don't because of
Speaker 2: my insurance will go up and I got to eat
Speaker 2: it every time. And what am I gonna do bother
Speaker 2: you guys?
Speaker 3: Well, I have more important.
Speaker 2: Things to do in the act.
Speaker 3: In the act, call I like those in the act.
Speaker 2: In the act. I got a guys in the field.
Speaker 2: You think they're gonna get away with anything. You won't
Speaker 2: even have to show up all you show up, right,
Speaker 2: I got a hundred guys on the job site, so like,
Speaker 2: go ahead and get them down like that's easy butt.
Speaker 2: But they don't do it when we're there. They do
Speaker 2: it when we're not there, And then we come back
Speaker 2: to work the next day and we see that's there,
Speaker 2: so we see the products missing. Now we're doing everything
Speaker 2: we cannot power. Do you think there's any what what's
Speaker 2: the best device that you can give to me? Just
Speaker 2: pretend me for community leaders? Get out there and vote.
Speaker 2: What do we have to do as a community to
Speaker 2: make our towns and cities better? You got twenty three
Speaker 2: seconds stance of that.
Speaker 3: Hold people accountable? So everybody, so the criminal everyone complains
Speaker 3: about the criminal justice system. Everybody has to do there job.
Speaker 2: What can we do to make your lives easier?
Speaker 3: Call us?
Speaker 2: No, we can't call you. We have to call somebody
Speaker 2: that's above you. Who do we get in touch with?
Speaker 3: Hold people are accountable. That's that's the only thing I do.
Speaker 3: Everybody has to do their job. The courts have to
Speaker 3: do their job. The the you know, you know, with
Speaker 3: their clothes and jails because they don't have enough prisoners.
Speaker 3: I mean, police have to do their job.
Speaker 2: We have to look's I got to go to break again.
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Speaker 2: I'm Sydney Stumpo and I'm here with Samantha. You're saying
Speaker 2: a lot tonight.
Speaker 3: Sergeant Robin the sorry about gryd Pete, Paul Campbell, w
Speaker 3: superintendent and I can't thank you guys enough for coming in.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Let's let's end. That's What's something fun?
Speaker 3: Well, one event we have coming up in August, it's
Speaker 3: August sixth. It's called National Night Out. This is where
Speaker 3: the police in the community come together for a good time.
Speaker 3: We have food there, we have rides for kids. One
Speaker 3: of the things we're asking for local commercial businesses or
Speaker 3: anybody that wants to donate, is we to sponsor a ride.
Speaker 3: We have several kiddy rides that are going to come
Speaker 3: from American Amusements and we want them to.
Speaker 2: So we need the local businesses, yes maybe locals, just
Speaker 2: to help support this and they.
Speaker 3: Can reach out to me police events at Forma Duco and.
Speaker 2: That's it that easy.
Speaker 3: It's easy.
Speaker 2: So see Stumbo Development can make a donation, right, that
Speaker 2: would be great. Hit me up. Okay, I'm Cindy Stumble
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Speaker 2: Have a great, safe weekend, and we'll see you next week.