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<v Speaker 1>For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female

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<v Speaker 1>homebuilder with a passion for design, a mastery of detail,

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<v Speaker 1>and a commitment to her crack. With daughter Samantha Stumpo

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<v Speaker 1>by her side, I don't need my.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole family on a date with me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good note.

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<v Speaker 2>It's goddamn weird.

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 1>Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company

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<v Speaker 1>in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't end together.

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<v Speaker 1>Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of construction,

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<v Speaker 1>real estate, development, design and more.

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<v Speaker 3>Unpredictable. Every time I think I know what you want,

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<v Speaker 3>you switch it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what makes sure houses all u D. They

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<v Speaker 1>discuss anything that happens between the roof and the foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>She can yell at you get scream, but when you

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<v Speaker 1>get her alone, she's the best person on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome to Cindy Stumpo check his nails on WBZ

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<v Speaker 2>News Radio ten thirty and I'm here tonight with who leam,

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<v Speaker 2>what's night's topic? You No, you have no idea, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I never know. So what's sitting in front of you

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<v Speaker 2>right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Twoe Brookline Police officers.

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<v Speaker 2>So we think that shows about them. Okay, she really

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<v Speaker 2>helps me lost my co host. You see that. See

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<v Speaker 2>that's why she was a blonde. You see the blonde picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Now as she becomes a brunette. She's becoming a brunette.

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<v Speaker 2>She's supposed to be getting like shopper, the bloone is

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to go, the bunette supposed to come.

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<v Speaker 4>You're calling me stupid on national radio Mentione Thatt's see

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<v Speaker 4>when you can't remember things.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's just called no.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now you're just having Cydney language. Now you have

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<v Speaker 4>an excuse you We have Citney language.

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<v Speaker 2>That's called metopause. Okay. Anyways, our topic tonight is what

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<v Speaker 2>protecting the community. And I have two Brookline offices.

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<v Speaker 3>Introduce yourself hisagant, robbed de Sarrio, Brookline PD, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I am Paul Campbell, Deputy Superintendent with the Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 2>Police depart What does that actually mean, Paul? What does

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<v Speaker 2>what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>It means he's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Making no money deal making, no money, But go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>It means I'm I oversee one of the divisions for

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<v Speaker 5>the police department. So I do a number of a

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<v Speaker 5>number of different roles. One of the roles I do

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<v Speaker 5>is public Information officer. But the Community Service Division essentially

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<v Speaker 5>works for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you Rob, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So I am the supervisor, the frontline supervisor of the

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<v Speaker 3>Community Service Division, so I supervise the patrolman that are

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<v Speaker 3>assigned to the division. And of course I have my

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<v Speaker 3>other tasks that I'm responsible for. Social media for a

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<v Speaker 3>shameless plug if I may.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so when I go on your social media, you

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<v Speaker 2>see that's me coming.

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<v Speaker 3>I see you all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so make sure somebody's noticed in what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I create a lot of the content there and videos

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<v Speaker 3>and still and information and news and stuff. So social

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<v Speaker 3>media and emergency management is another role of mine in

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<v Speaker 3>the Community Service Division.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And basically you've explained what you do. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to keep the questions. I'll go so oft with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't go HRD, I won't go really really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll go easy. We're ready, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just start with this question. If you date,

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<v Speaker 2>how's the crime rate been? And I know you can't

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<v Speaker 2>only speak about Boston Newton, nor am I asking you to.

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<v Speaker 2>But are the cops communicating with each other across the

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<v Speaker 2>communities or local like is Newton to talking to Brookline?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Brookline talking to Boston? Is because you border you're

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<v Speaker 2>bordering Boston, Newton, Jamaica. Plane which is Boston too?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>What else do we border West Roxbury, Boston?

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<v Speaker 3>That's it? Yeah, just Boston and Newton are the only

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<v Speaker 3>two towns that we that we make contact with.

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<v Speaker 2>So you do as police talk to the others, or

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<v Speaker 2>chiefs talk to chiefs, politicians talk to politicians, or we

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<v Speaker 2>all on our own in our towns and cities and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of really.

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<v Speaker 3>So we belong to several different communications, you know, media

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<v Speaker 3>venues that we communicate with other communities. One example is

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<v Speaker 3>the Fusion Center, right, and it's and that's specifically targeting

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<v Speaker 3>you know, terrorists, intel intelligence. So Brookline will communicate with

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<v Speaker 3>the Fusion Center, and the Future Center is made up

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<v Speaker 3>of several different agencies. I can't really go into specific tay,

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<v Speaker 3>so what's what they share? But we are constantly communicating

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<v Speaker 3>with our neighbors. For example, the breaks that we have

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<v Speaker 3>had recently. We in constant communication with Newton PD because

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<v Speaker 3>it appears that these subjects maybe targeting more affluent communities, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so we want to make sure we're sharing the same

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<v Speaker 3>information with the towns that are similar to us, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Newton, okay, and I know Weston now is getting bits

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<v Speaker 2>picking up in Western so we start looking at Brookline, Newton, Weston, Wellesley.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just common sense, like some things in life,

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<v Speaker 2>is just common sense. Sometimes common sense is so common anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're right to say that they're hitting the higher

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<v Speaker 2>end zip codes.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's interesting about this group is there's no real pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't figure out the patent at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't. So they'll hit, you know, a town local

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<v Speaker 3>to the Boston area, but then they'll move to a

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<v Speaker 3>different region and.

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<v Speaker 2>Hit that and hit that area and then come back.

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<v Speaker 3>And then come back eventually. Yeah. So, although there is

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of discussion about it recently, we've only been

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<v Speaker 3>calendar year twenty twenty four. You know, we based on

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<v Speaker 3>the modus operendi, the mo of the incident, we really

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<v Speaker 3>only have one weekend where where there was suspicious activity

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<v Speaker 3>and there was a break and that was the first

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<v Speaker 3>week of March. Prior to that calendar year twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 3>there was only there was only two incidents that we

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<v Speaker 3>can match the same modus OPERENDI too.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we heard that it was up to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>close to seven with this one gang, it's up to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe four.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't speak to other communities, no, just.

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<v Speaker 2>In Brooklyn because I thought on the zoom meaning I

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<v Speaker 2>heard seven.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that went back through twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Through Do you think these guys are around twenty two?

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<v Speaker 2>This is a new group.

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<v Speaker 5>It sounds like it's it may not be the same

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<v Speaker 5>actual people, but it's the same emo. It's the same

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<v Speaker 5>same type of crime. And we see house breaks from

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<v Speaker 5>time to time that I don't know, let's call it

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<v Speaker 5>just a typical house break. These seem to be more sophisticated,

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<v Speaker 5>better planned out, better equipment there in and out. They

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<v Speaker 5>know exactly what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But out of that video that I saw that we

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<v Speaker 2>alsaw these are not Americans speaking people.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that right, correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, like I said, some of my clients listen

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<v Speaker 2>to it seemed like it was coming out of Central

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<v Speaker 2>America and they, as I hear, they have what's the

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<v Speaker 2>device that can lock down your Wi Fi?

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<v Speaker 5>They have some sort of a jammer, at least we

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<v Speaker 5>believe in some cases there have been Wi Fi jammers

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<v Speaker 5>which can affect wireless security cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>So and we've had other break ins in our areas.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just become what our areas just many areas,

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<v Speaker 2>not just our area, many areas. It's just a target

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<v Speaker 2>for what let's go rob Look, I'm a product of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty two. Right when your house got robbed in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty two or seventy and you're a teenager, typically

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't home. Typically there were professional robbers. If there

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<v Speaker 2>was such a thing as professional robbers, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the profession was. A robbers. They weren't going to

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<v Speaker 2>come in your house at night time. They came during

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<v Speaker 2>the day. And I think everybody would agree. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to rob me and I'm insured during the day,

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<v Speaker 2>then go rob me. But this nighttime stuff is nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody likes this.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the scariest thing about it is when they come

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<v Speaker 3>in when someone's home, right, so they'll they'll pick larger

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<v Speaker 3>homes just for that for that reason. If somebody is

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<v Speaker 3>home there on the other side of the of the house.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about, you know, really large properties.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, I would know that. I'm just a builder.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just a builder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm actually the one building those large homes if

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<v Speaker 2>you're regaling.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the most that's the scariest part is the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that's, you know, the idea that somebody will are

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<v Speaker 3>brazen enough to come in while you're home.

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<v Speaker 2>You use the right word, you know, word I use

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<v Speaker 2>that's really ballsy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, I can't say that yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's a girl. I just use it real. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what made you guys want to be com police officers?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I grew up in Brookline. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you can refer to it as

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<v Speaker 3>the point and yeah point, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So my my mother grew up in the same house,

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<v Speaker 3>so we were second generation in the same house. And

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<v Speaker 3>I knew all the neighborhood cops.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not like your dad was a cops my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>No, My dad was a custodian at Nina High School

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<v Speaker 3>and my mother worked for Beth Israel in the human

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<v Speaker 3>resources division, and we just knew all the neighborhood cops.

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<v Speaker 3>And it just seemed like and you have to understand,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm much. I'm a product of the eighties, right right,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm too old.

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<v Speaker 2>No what how old? I'm fifty nine? What are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm forty six. I just turned I feel really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Few not okay, So you don't to understand. Back in

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<v Speaker 3>the eighties and nineties, what was the most popular television

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<v Speaker 3>show on Fox? It was Cops? Right, So that's where

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<v Speaker 3>I got all my internet. This is pre this is

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<v Speaker 3>pre internet. I couldn't google anything back then, Cindy, I hear.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was all my information was watching Cops and

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<v Speaker 3>it seemed exciting, and that's googling band.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a lesbian builder.

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<v Speaker 3>Google it. Oh is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know I'm married with two kids. Okay, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>must be gaged to the building. No, I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was this preaked my interest. I went to

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<v Speaker 3>college for criminal justice, and I know I was nine

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<v Speaker 3>months out of out of college when I took the exam.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, hold that off, one man, we gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>off to break. I'm Sidney Stumble And you listen Toughest

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<v Speaker 1>Tent there and be right back, sponsored by Floor and Decor,

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<v Speaker 1>National Lumber and Village Bang.

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<v Speaker 3>You can look point somebody on the side walk car jacking.

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<v Speaker 3>Old lady had a rid lad good god on the

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<v Speaker 2>You think it's cool left the food. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio. Tent there and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney stump On and I'm here with my daughter Samantha,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm here with who good guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Sergeant Rob de Sario Brookline pet Get used to.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a little bit of an agy song, as people

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<v Speaker 2>would say that we just broke in, but it's it

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of meeting right like this the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that's going around the whole country. That song took some criticism.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend of mine, Christy No South Dakota Governor got right

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<v Speaker 2>behind him and stood behind that song was now racial,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing about it. It was just it's called respect, respect of

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<v Speaker 2>the law. And that's what we've lost here. We've lost

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<v Speaker 2>law and order in respecting the men in blue and

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<v Speaker 2>the women in blue. Right. That's why I asked you

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<v Speaker 2>why you know you became a cop, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>your answer. Now fast forward today. Like people always ask me,

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<v Speaker 2>if you had a due over Cindy, would you change

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<v Speaker 2>your career? My answers always know I wouldn't change a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Given the opportunity today, twenty three years old, coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of college twenty one, twenty two, would you have picked

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<v Speaker 3>What you know now? And that's a very difficult question.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I like asking a lot of I can ask

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<v Speaker 2>you some easy one, like let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>I like difficult. Okay, you got it. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of positives to the police service, and I'm glad I

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<v Speaker 3>got into it when I did. But if you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if I was there were different options for me today

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<v Speaker 3>if I was in the same position. So I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of dodged your questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna answer the question. I'm gonna ask the

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<v Speaker 2>became a police officer there was more of a respect factor?

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<v Speaker 2>And let me clarify something to all my listeners. There's

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<v Speaker 2>always gonna be good cops and bad cops, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>always gonna be good doctors and bad doctors, and good

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers and bad lawyers, and good accountants and bad accountants

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<v Speaker 2>and good people and bad people, good builders and bad buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>and good builders and bad builders, and good brokers and

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<v Speaker 2>bad brokers, and good financial advisors and bad financial advisors. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just the way of the world. Most cops I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever known in my both cities Newtonberg Line have been

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<v Speaker 2>great guys. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If I got pulled over, guess what, guys, I was speeding.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't sit there and say what I do and

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<v Speaker 2>play stupid. My father said, listen, you get pulled over,

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<v Speaker 2>just admit what you did and maybe the cop will

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<v Speaker 2>be nice enough to let you go with a warning

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe not. But own yourself, hold yourself accountable. That

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<v Speaker 2>Hammond Street, I've probably been pulled over, were anybody else

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<v Speaker 2>on Hammond Street? Okay in all those years, yep? I

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<v Speaker 2>know what they did, you know. And again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a building here for so long, so every

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<v Speaker 2>once in a while, you know, they do detail. They

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<v Speaker 2>I'd get a break, Sidney, just keep driving, slow it down,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, and yell at me like

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<v Speaker 2>slow it down, not nicely. You know, he's right, slow

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<v Speaker 2>it down. He's saving my life and somebody else's life.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I always say, look at if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a reason to feel the cops, then you should

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<v Speaker 2>feel cops. Not a drug dealer, not killing people. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not doing anything wrong, So I don't feel you guys, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and the story.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's the worst that can happen? You receive a citation,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the big deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And my insurance goes up. But again, seriously, like,

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<v Speaker 2>just hold yourself accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the attitude towards the police as more society

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<v Speaker 3>based than it is an actual occupation.

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<v Speaker 2>I just so disrespected out there. Come on, he's so

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<v Speaker 2>disrespected there.

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<v Speaker 3>So I came on in a very unique position. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was in the academy when September eleventh happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you remember, oh, you mean a day that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody forgets this country. Yeah, oh and the other the

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<v Speaker 2>other people that say we did this ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an inside job.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an inside job. Ye, September eleventh.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in the academy. So I was at in

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<v Speaker 3>and we were graduating in November. So two months after

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<v Speaker 3>September eleventh, we were graduating. So if you remember, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>had flags on their cars, everybody was very paid. The

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<v Speaker 3>country came together everybody loved firefighters, but everybody loved cops

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<v Speaker 3>because there's a lot of cops that died that day too,

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<v Speaker 3>and who ran.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, are still losing their lives from nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven from breathing in all that from from psych

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<v Speaker 2>guys that came out afterwards and cleaned it up. No

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<v Speaker 2>one wants to know that. No one remembers that because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't talk about anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I came on, I just thought that was normal.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I graduated in November, I had people by

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<v Speaker 3>and my coffee I don't go, don't and shake in

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<v Speaker 3>my hand, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>You felt proud and it was very it was very proper.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just thought that was normal, Yeah, welcome, because

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know any better. But then some of the

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<v Speaker 3>older guys like, yeah, this is not how it usually goes.

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<v Speaker 3>But everybody was still, you know, coming off the nine

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<v Speaker 3>to eleven hangover that they were just kind of like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that hangover might be coming again. I have no

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<v Speaker 2>proof of anything, so I'm not in discriminating myself, but

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<v Speaker 2>the way you see the country going down, this one

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<v Speaker 2>phase me and I wouldn't phase anybody at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>So all I'm saying. I was trying to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the point that if anybody that has stayed on, I

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<v Speaker 2>know Brookline Newton as we were talking earlier, have left

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<v Speaker 2>the force three years off of thirty years. Now, when

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<v Speaker 2>you do your thirty years, you're full pensioned out. Correct,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two years thy two years. You have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a certain age too, you have to be fifty five. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so if you live, if you leave two three years earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>what is that a difference in a paycheck?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a big difference. Correct, You know, you're going from

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<v Speaker 3>eighty percent, so maybe even into the sixties.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, about two and a half percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a big deal. That's a big deal at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, after you serve for thirty two years and

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<v Speaker 2>you leave two three years early because you can't take

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<v Speaker 2>any more stress, right, the stress the job. But the

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<v Speaker 2>big one was nobody had your backs. The politicians didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have your backs. The mayor is the this the that

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<v Speaker 2>they no one has your back, So you're out there

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<v Speaker 2>fighting a fight alone. And the things I heard from

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<v Speaker 2>many community cops is like I'm out, I'm done, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not worth it. I'm not going to get sued I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not putting my life on the line if I do something,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm found guilty, I could end up in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm done.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of the number one issue that I

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<v Speaker 3>see is people are afraid to do that you're supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to do because of being It's not so much criminal changes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's more being sued. You know. I put hands on

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<v Speaker 3>this person, you know, and I was justified.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody's going to camera out.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's got a camera too, so.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they'll add it out what they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>you to see, right, the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, everything is, everything is added, there's no question, and

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<v Speaker 3>then everything is out of context too. And only the

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok video was only fifteen to twenty seconds, so everything

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<v Speaker 3>that led up to that fifteen and twenty seconds has

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<v Speaker 3>been heeded out. So yeah, it's a completely different world.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't like that when I came on. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure the deputy, you know, when he came on,

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<v Speaker 3>they were still on horseback.

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<v Speaker 2>But how long you've been on deputy.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty five years? I came on in ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight and a nice way of calling him old, I

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<v Speaker 4>would never I would never do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got a custom the game here. All right, here's

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<v Speaker 2>a question to you, the same question. You like your job.

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 5>It's there's been ups and downs for sure. And you

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<v Speaker 5>know he mentioned September eleventh, when you know after that,

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<v Speaker 5>there was there were, there were.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great feeling. America came together.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, marathon bombing was the same thing. After the

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<v Speaker 5>marathon bombing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeap.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people forget that one too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in a Twitter room recently. Yeah, they said

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<v Speaker 2>in the Twitter room, Yeah, that was French people that

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<v Speaker 2>did that. I'm like, we did you read that? You idiot?

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<v Speaker 2>Like wire you coming up? I'm on that stupid thing,

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<v Speaker 2>fighting with people every night, Like I need to get

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<v Speaker 2>a life, right raise I get off that Twitter right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, I'm not getting off. There's no fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't fight, Okay. So this is what I don't understand, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you get into these debates for people,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll say, well, crime's down one percent. Well maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>down one percent in your area, but it's up in

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<v Speaker 2>our area. So how do they say crimes down one percent?

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<v Speaker 2>Not that's a big swing, by the way, one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not taking those odds, by the way one percent

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<v Speaker 2>is not the odds I want to take. Is crime

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<v Speaker 2>up in our area?

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<v Speaker 5>So in Brookline, yeah, I think crime is up over

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<v Speaker 5>the last couple of years. Okay, not up dramatically, but

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<v Speaker 5>certainly not down.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, because I don't remember all these home breakings, and

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<v Speaker 2>I build most these homes, these new homes, the last

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six years here, so I don't recall this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is all Google crazy to me. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>something I recall.

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<v Speaker 5>You have.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you heard about a break in, but it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like five guys running through a backyard with backpacks

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<v Speaker 2>like I never saw that before.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I also think certain types of crimes are going

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<v Speaker 5>to make a bigger impact.

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<v Speaker 3>Right If you leave your.

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<v Speaker 5>Car unlocked and you come out in the morning and

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<v Speaker 5>someone has rifle through your car and they slow your

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<v Speaker 5>change they had in the center console, you don't feel

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<v Speaker 5>good about that. But it's not quite the same thing

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<v Speaker 5>as if you learn that someone broke into your next

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<v Speaker 5>door neighbors home while the home while the residents were

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<v Speaker 5>in the house, And that's the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 5>that makes a huge impact. You know that that contributes

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<v Speaker 5>to fear of crime in a way that someone's stealing

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<v Speaker 5>it You know that, you know, even if the percentages,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, if the crime rate stays exactly the same,

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<v Speaker 5>the type of crime makes it makes a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Of you know, similar people applying for licensed to care

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<v Speaker 2>in auto.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there is an increase, substantial increase.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And how hard is it now in the town

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<v Speaker 2>of Brookline to get a license to carry?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm not the one who is them, but uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the Supreme Court, the Bruined decision came out

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of years ago that that made it easier

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<v Speaker 5>to get a license to carry.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as you're a good person. Yeah, with no record,

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<v Speaker 2>no background, no nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I forget exactly what. But there's a suit suitabil.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I gotta go to break com Siddy stompoint

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<v Speaker 2>and listened Tough as Nails and WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>And Welcome to Tough as Nails And I'm Sydney Stumpone.

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<v Speaker 2>You're at WBZ News Radio ten thirty. I'm here with

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<v Speaker 2>Maantha and.

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<v Speaker 5>Deputy Superintendent Paul Campbell from the Brookline Police Department.

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<v Speaker 3>And Sajara rob DeSario from Brooklyn Peuty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so people are applying for licenses and that amendment

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<v Speaker 2>is being honored.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, the standard to evaluate who gets a license to

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<v Speaker 5>carry has changed, and so it is there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's easier now to get a license care.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's talk about that now, because I'm debating this

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of people across the country on Twitter spaces.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about there are states that have what we

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<v Speaker 2>used to call the King of the Castle law. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you came in my home. I live in Texas, I

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<v Speaker 2>live in Florida. Certain states we have Massachusetts, can somebody explain.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's choose me. Hypothetically, somebody breaks into my home. What

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<v Speaker 2>is the first thing I'm supposed to do. Let's give

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<v Speaker 2>people the rundown on what they're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 5>To your knowledge, call nine one one and if you

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<v Speaker 5>can't get out of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So remember I have a gun, Right, I can

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<v Speaker 2>protect myself. Hypothetically, Right, I have to get to a

463
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<v Speaker 2>phone to call you. But maybe I'm in the shower.

464
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<v Speaker 2>I just got the shower. I can't get to a

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<v Speaker 2>phone to call you, but I'm fine not to have

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<v Speaker 2>my gun in the bathroom. Hypothetically you're coming. Let's say

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<v Speaker 2>I can't get out of the bathroom. I can't get

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<v Speaker 2>to a phone and call you. I hit the panic button,

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<v Speaker 2>but these thieves have a set way of knocking down

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<v Speaker 2>my Wi Fi system. What happens next if I can't

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<v Speaker 2>get to safety, I can't get out of the house, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the rules. I'm supposed to get out of

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<v Speaker 2>the house if I can't call you because half our

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<v Speaker 2>WiFi sometimes doesn't work in any ways. Right, You're like

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<v Speaker 2>home phones are important. People put home phones back in

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<v Speaker 2>your houses. Right, that's important. If I can't get out

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<v Speaker 2>of the house and go the way you just told me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't get to I'm locked in the bathroom, hypothetically,

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<v Speaker 2>what do I do next? Now you come in the bathroom?

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<v Speaker 2>What are my rights? Do I have any rights? Or

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<v Speaker 2>really no rights? Still? What is the how's this? How's this?

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me? What the what the statue reads? Here?

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<v Speaker 2>What is do we know what it really reads because

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like everybody interprets it differently or do we

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<v Speaker 2>not really have an answer? In Massachusetts?

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're out and about the in society, pathetically, hypothetically,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're out and about in society, you have a

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<v Speaker 3>duty to retreat if you if there's what does that

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<v Speaker 3>mean retreat? You need to remove yourself from whatever the

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<v Speaker 3>situation is.

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<v Speaker 2>And what if the person's on my back? Now I

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<v Speaker 2>can't retreat.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you have every right to defend yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And will I get arrested when the police come to

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<v Speaker 2>the house until you figure out what happened, what will happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Or hypothetic just hypothetic, will be arrested? I'll be arrested. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it depends on when, it depends on when you call

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<v Speaker 3>it quits. Right, So there's a you have. You have

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<v Speaker 3>every right to defend yourself. If you're on the street

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<v Speaker 3>and you're being assaulted or something, you can defend yourself, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to take a reasonable means to defend yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything past that reasonableness.

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, looks at that what's reasonable? What isn't reasonable?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? I can't speak to what a DA would do,

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<v Speaker 3>but as a responding police officer, I'm obviously pete. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>say everybody separated. I'm interviewing this person. I'm interviewing this

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<v Speaker 3>person I'm interviewing witnesses that were on the street or

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<v Speaker 3>on the train. Tell me what happened. Everybody gets pulled in.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody gets pulled in, unless that might be hypothetically dead. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's any question whatsoever, the officer's going to write

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<v Speaker 3>up the report and it's going to submit it to

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<v Speaker 3>the ADA in the eight or the clerk magistrate, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to decide whether or not our charges should

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<v Speaker 3>be filed against you. And I think for the police,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that that's the simplest, easiest way for us to

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<v Speaker 3>determine because point.

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<v Speaker 2>About, I guess that this is my home. I pay

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<v Speaker 2>taxes here. This is where I'm supposed to come home

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<v Speaker 2>and feel safe. Everybody walks the door. It's supposed to be. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I got enough stress at work all day, enough stress

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<v Speaker 2>with the kids all day. Now, I want to come

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<v Speaker 2>home and I want to feel safe where a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people don't feel safe anymore. But okay, I get

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<v Speaker 2>the way I interpret the law, and I've read it

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<v Speaker 2>five times. I have to be you have to pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much be right on top of me as a license

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<v Speaker 2>holder to use that weapon. That's the way I'm interpreting it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other interpretation is you come in and

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<v Speaker 2>you you kill me, or I kill you. I kill you. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I kill you. You don't kill me, okay, because then

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be sued. It's my home. I kill you because

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<v Speaker 2>you're right on top of me. I get my gun

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<v Speaker 2>out and somehow I put the ball through your belly somehow, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I watched a lot of movies, right, so I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>buy movies. Okay, Now your wife comes out, your mother,

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<v Speaker 2>your father, your sister, your and I'm sued civilly because

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<v Speaker 2>that's coming next, especially if there's something to get, which

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<v Speaker 2>is insurance money.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So I don't have that problem because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have But you don't have anything, so you can't for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you own a home, you do have something.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and maybe the deputy can talk because but there

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<v Speaker 3>is a there is a castle doctrine, whereas if you're

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<v Speaker 3>there's a certain level of threat that you are being

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<v Speaker 3>threatened in your home. So one of the things they

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<v Speaker 3>have to evaluate, let's say the responding officer of response

547
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<v Speaker 3>to my home, they have to evaluate the motive, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>what was the person breaking into the house for? Is

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<v Speaker 3>he a simple petty theft or Is he going to

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<v Speaker 3>kill me?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he is? He is?

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<v Speaker 3>There social media posts about how he hates sageant Rob

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<v Speaker 3>and he is going to get him at any Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to get revenge, right. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of different there's not one clear black and white answer.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of a lot of gray, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of difference.

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<v Speaker 2>So five people come in your house, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, it's you know, what is their motive? Why are

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<v Speaker 3>they coming into my house? Does my house look dilapidated?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they squatters? As opposed to another problem?

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<v Speaker 2>We have the problems we have here in the States.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, is my house lived in? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>are my windows boarded up? Can someone wrongfully think that my.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hypothetically say it's a beautiful class to upper class neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Five people lights, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And they come in. You know they're asking they're asking

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<v Speaker 3>for trouble. You know, you're breaking into someone's house with

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<v Speaker 3>the TV on and the kids toys in the front

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<v Speaker 3>yard and a swim set in the backyard, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>cars in the driveway.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we can we just establish here that every DA

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<v Speaker 2>is going to read our laws differently and proceed differently.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's etched in stone correct the way

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<v Speaker 2>I interpret it, and I like little. I've read it

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<v Speaker 2>five times and I've asked many people the same question,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's got a different interpretation. We're in Florida, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Even your car is part of your home.

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<v Speaker 3>Just think broke in is Norfolk County. In Boston, Suffolk County,

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<v Speaker 3>you have two separate das there. You commit a shoplifting

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<v Speaker 3>on one side of kalm Av, there's no you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the AD will not prosecute certain crimes. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If you remember the previous District Attorney for Suffer County,

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<v Speaker 3>she will not prosecute certain crimes. But that's that side

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<v Speaker 3>of Commav. That's Suffolk County. You cross the street to

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<v Speaker 3>Brookline side of Kalmav and you shoplift there. The Norfolk

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<v Speaker 3>County DA will prosecute shoplifting calls.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't I don't know. I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was a lot of confusion, especially with the

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<v Speaker 3>encampment on the under the bu bridge. If you remember,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people were coming over into Brookline to

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<v Speaker 3>shoplifts because there's convenient you just cross over there, so

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<v Speaker 3>we would stop them after the shoplifting. We would stop them.

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<v Speaker 3>In some cases we would arrest them. In some cases

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<v Speaker 3>we would summon them in and they were mystified by

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that we were taking any criminal action at all,

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<v Speaker 3>and we would have to explain to them, this is Brookline,

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<v Speaker 3>this is Norfolk County. That side of the street is

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<v Speaker 3>Suffolk County.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we're all suffering.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, to your point, it varies by different das in

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<v Speaker 3>different counties, not just different states.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So when Gucci says to me, hey, it's not

606
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<v Speaker 2>Boat's but a pleasure doing business with you. But we're

607
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<v Speaker 2>stepping out of Bloomingdale's now because we're losing more than

608
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<v Speaker 2>we're selling. And one of my best girlfriends leaves Bloomingdale's

609
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<v Speaker 2>after twenty something years and says, I'm not looking at

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<v Speaker 2>another gun. I'm not looking at another gun in here

611
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<v Speaker 2>where they tell me to turn my back while they

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<v Speaker 2>take thousands of dollars worth of clothing and left. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, her husband happens to be a sogyant

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<v Speaker 2>in Newton. Right that something happened in Newton didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>their backs either, Right, they're still on they're still onto

616
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<v Speaker 2>their investigation. Right, I did nothing wrong, nothing wrong, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is what it is. So I just see,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I want. Is it so bad for

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<v Speaker 2>me to want law and order? Is this so bad

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to make sure and I call nine

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<v Speaker 2>to one one the cops are coming, whether I'm having

622
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<v Speaker 2>a heart attack, whether my houseband is having a stroke,

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<v Speaker 2>whether we're being broken into? Is that so much? I

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<v Speaker 2>think most people want that?

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<v Speaker 3>So that comes back to staffing, right, So most police

626
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<v Speaker 3>departments are struggling to recruit people to do the job.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's just civil service in Brookline that you have

628
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<v Speaker 2>to live here for one year to become a Brookline

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<v Speaker 2>police officer, which I think somebody should go in there

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<v Speaker 2>and change that immediately under an emergency that we need

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen Look, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not unique to Brookline though, it's not unique to

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<v Speaker 3>civil service communities. Everybody is struggling for first for police officers.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but no matter what, stay but when you put

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<v Speaker 2>a year delay that you have to live in Brookline,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm using Brookline as example, right, because you guys

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<v Speaker 2>work for Brookline, I live in Brookline. That law is

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<v Speaker 2>going to go right, and the whole that thought we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to break. It's always sticking that stupid

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<v Speaker 2>thing in my face. I'm send me stumbling and listening

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<v Speaker 2>to his nails on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Temp sponsored by new Brook Realty Group, Boston Wood Smaller Insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>Body and welcome back to Tefess Nails. I'm sitting stump

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<v Speaker 2>on w Busy News Radio ten thirty and I'm here

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<v Speaker 2>with saman My daughter said not do them too much

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<v Speaker 2>talking and go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Sergeant Robber sorry O Brookline PD.

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<v Speaker 5>That be Superintendent Paul Campbell, Brookline.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well we're just talking about uh civil service and

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<v Speaker 3>how you have to reside in the town for a

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<v Speaker 3>year before you can get residency preference.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was that a thing? What's that? Why is

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<v Speaker 2>that a thing? We'll get to that in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>That's been the ruling since Look at Brookline's being run

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<v Speaker 2>like it's still eighteen hundred. Okay, it's twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a meer. Okay, it might have worked.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you might have worked for Why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>be merrima?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanna been mere?

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<v Speaker 4>Why not you have a lot of opinions do.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I didn't run the state like it's nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 2>no play. But okay, so here's a young kid or

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<v Speaker 2>young girl, young man, woman, whatever, how theyre going to

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<v Speaker 2>afford to pay the rent and brook line for a

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<v Speaker 2>year to live here to become a police officer. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>me I'm alias.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's interesting that you say that because when I

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<v Speaker 3>was taking the exam back in the nineteen hundreds, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of cri There was a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>competition for the for the police and fire job up

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<v Speaker 3>not even job. There was a lot of competition. You

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<v Speaker 3>were competing with, you know, five or six hundred other residents.

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<v Speaker 3>So the only thing that residency gives you is a preference.

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<v Speaker 3>You go to the top of the list via civil

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<v Speaker 3>service law rules, you go to the top of the

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<v Speaker 3>list if you have resided in the town. Now, that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't stop anybody from taking the exam and being put

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<v Speaker 3>on the non residence list.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried that with one of Chan's friends. They said

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<v Speaker 2>to me, verbatim, he's got to live in Berkeley in order.

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<v Speaker 3>To get residency preference. Not to get higher, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Need police officers. So we get rid of all those

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<v Speaker 2>laws right now, how about an emergency in junction?

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<v Speaker 3>So, well, we don't need emergency. I'll leave this to

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<v Speaker 3>the deputy to explain my deputy process is because he so.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, there is a discussion for Brookline to leave

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<v Speaker 5>civil service, and there's let's call it an agreement and

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<v Speaker 5>principle between management and the union to exit civil service.

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<v Speaker 5>So I do think in this year, twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 5>you'll probably see Brookline leave civil service. And the problem

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<v Speaker 5>that you're describing is not unique to Brookline. There are

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<v Speaker 5>a number of communities. If you were to ask ten

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<v Speaker 5>years ago the surrounding communities, how many of them are

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<v Speaker 5>in civil service? The answer would have been just about

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<v Speaker 5>all of them. And now people are leaving civil service

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<v Speaker 5>and drove because of the situation that you're describing. It

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<v Speaker 5>does it really does hinder your ability to run an

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<v Speaker 5>efficient and effective police department.

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<v Speaker 3>You were asking it was the value good?

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<v Speaker 5>You were asking what was the value of being?

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<v Speaker 2>Why was that even created? So again, we're running Brookline

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<v Speaker 2>like it's seventeen eighteen hundred. Okay, it's twenty twenty five,

704
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<v Speaker 2>packing bags.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you're about to get a history lesson All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I take the history lesson.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, think I do think years ago there was real

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<v Speaker 5>value in having a resonant preference. You get people police

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<v Speaker 5>in the community who are from the community, which is great,

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<v Speaker 5>which I think there's real value in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they knew the streets, they understood the neighborhoods, they

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<v Speaker 2>understood the people.

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly right. And but where we've gotten away from

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<v Speaker 5>that now and in some community like Brookline, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>We're being very careful what we say here right now, there's.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe less middle class in Brookline. You know, I grew

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<v Speaker 5>up in Brookline, Rob grew.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah the booklist, and everybody always thought that Brookline's rich,

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<v Speaker 2>Newton's rich. That's balloney, Okay. We had opera, we had

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<v Speaker 2>middle and we had projects, and I forgets that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we have projects in Brookline, we have the projects

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<v Speaker 2>in Newton. I mean, like people just think because we

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<v Speaker 2>live in this area that everybody's super rich. By the way,

724
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<v Speaker 2>public housing, there is public housing, and look at there's

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00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 2>generational wealth money here for sure. But I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you this as a builder of thirty six years, my

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<v Speaker 2>clients are all hard working people, hard working people that

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and bust their hump every day to

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<v Speaker 2>give their families a better life. That's really the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm one of those people that have been busting

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<v Speaker 2>my humb out there for thirty six years.

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<v Speaker 3>But the people being raised here, the kids that are

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<v Speaker 3>being raised in Brookline, don't want the civil service jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want any jobs. They want it for YouTube famous.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to be I don't know. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell us how to live our lives. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>be my What do I get on link life coach?

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<v Speaker 2>They want to be my life coach. I get twenty

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<v Speaker 2>year olds that want to be my life coach? What

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to teach me? I just gotta laugh

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<v Speaker 2>at this next generation, a bunch of aliens as I

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<v Speaker 2>call them. But as much as they don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be police officers, they don't want to be plumbers, electricians.

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<v Speaker 2>And they chase you guys either. I mean, we're all doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Two young kids. My son is eleven, he'll be turned

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<v Speaker 3>eleven this year, and I'm really advocating for the trade

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<v Speaker 3>or the trade.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, unless the kid is an ab student. You

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<v Speaker 2>know who your children are. And I always say this

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<v Speaker 2>to parents, and I run the game for fourteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are a kid to be a next question, No,

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<v Speaker 2>next question, absolutely no, No, it's funny unless things changed

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<v Speaker 2>growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like you know, we need you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>know four or five, six, seven, yea, a copy wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be a cop?

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety five?

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<v Speaker 4>Did they talk about wanting to be a copy of kids?

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<v Speaker 3>So now I think he's more Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what he wants to do now, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what here, here's what it comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>with kids today is we got to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>teaching our kids' values, try to teach them financial literacy,

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<v Speaker 2>get them off these devices, and put them back to work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure everybody in this room, including my daughter, that's

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<v Speaker 2>had a privileged life, had a job by sixteen, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>working up bloom me deals, whether she liked to. She

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<v Speaker 2>got a car. That car's gotta run on gas, right, Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>go find a way to pay for the guests.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's that's not the that's not the trend. It's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's it's I'm gonna I think I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, especially Generation X, they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Why keep changing these generations? What do you but, Sammy,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you called? Generation?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually now, well I'm a baby boomer. So what do

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<v Speaker 2>you I have to I'd have to google it x. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>anything under me, anything under the age of forty is

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<v Speaker 2>all crazy. And I think thirty five thirty six the

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<v Speaker 2>tipping point, and anything out of thirty five is absolutely aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing the disservice by not forcing them into oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing the parents.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to go get a job.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did we do different? I asked myself all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>When my antients had nothing, so you know, we had zero,

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<v Speaker 3>We had nothing, Okay, So like we didn't have a choice.

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<v Speaker 3>If you wanted back to school clothes, you had to

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<v Speaker 3>go get it. At fourteen, you had to get.

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<v Speaker 2>A job shining shoes, delivery papers.

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<v Speaker 3>But every time of Morgan's pharmacy, of course I do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I work, Okay for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So here here's the problem though, This is what I

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<v Speaker 2>think the problem is.

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<v Speaker 3>We know too much.

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<v Speaker 2>It came out of our generations, things that we're hitting

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<v Speaker 2>under the copy right. I call my parents and my

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<v Speaker 2>grandparents' generation the hitting generation. But unfortunately ancestries bringing all

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<v Speaker 2>everything out, like, oh, I have a first constant over here,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that existed? Oh I got a brother over

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<v Speaker 2>here or a sister right, Okay, didn't know that existed.

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<v Speaker 2>They like to hit in generation. I think my generation

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<v Speaker 2>found out more about coaches and teachers and molestation and

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<v Speaker 2>and things going on in people's homes that shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been going on. And I think that's when we got

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<v Speaker 2>nervous and said, I want to protect my kids from

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<v Speaker 2>any of that craziness. Right right, bubble wraps, I was

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<v Speaker 2>a helicopter. I'll be the first admit that I am too,

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<v Speaker 2>and you are too. I mean, I can't avoid it

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<v Speaker 2>like that because you see the real world every day

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<v Speaker 2>exactly right, But and so do not I because see

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<v Speaker 2>the difference is I work in construction and don't get

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<v Speaker 2>realer than that. You see the drug problems, You see

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<v Speaker 2>the alcohol problems out here, You see me holding my

815
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<v Speaker 2>guys up straight, you know what I mean. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>better over time because they're getting older, but the epidemic

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<v Speaker 2>and drugs and alcohol and construction have always been huge.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've had to deal with this my whole thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six year career. Right, I don't get to go to

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<v Speaker 2>work with guys that graduate Brown, Mit and Harvard. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just call it the wait is Are they all great guys? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather work with those guys all day long than

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<v Speaker 2>the elite, because these guys keep it real, which keeps

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<v Speaker 2>all of our lives real.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're good guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because a guy runs into a drug problem, when

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol problem doesn't make them a bad or her a

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<v Speaker 2>bad person.

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<v Speaker 3>You just go get help.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a disease like gaming else. But look, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen what I've seen the last couple of years. Here

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<v Speaker 2>every job of mine's getting hit. I never had jobs

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<v Speaker 2>getting hit. We've probably lost in the last two three years,

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<v Speaker 2>well over a quarter of a million dollars worth of products.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the police say, why don't you call me, Cindy?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you going to do? Why am I going

837
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<v Speaker 2>to waste your time on a call because we got robbed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not putting the insurance claimant. We don't because of

839
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<v Speaker 2>my insurance will go up and I got to eat

840
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<v Speaker 2>it every time. And what am I gonna do bother

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<v Speaker 2>you guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I have more important.

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<v Speaker 2>Things to do in the act.

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<v Speaker 3>In the act, call I like those in the act.

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<v Speaker 2>In the act. I got a guys in the field.

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<v Speaker 2>You think they're gonna get away with anything. You won't

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<v Speaker 2>even have to show up all you show up, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a hundred guys on the job site, so like,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and get them down like that's easy butt.

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't do it when we're there. They do

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<v Speaker 2>it when we're not there, And then we come back

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<v Speaker 2>to work the next day and we see that's there,

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<v Speaker 2>so we see the products missing. Now we're doing everything

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<v Speaker 2>we cannot power. Do you think there's any what what's

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<v Speaker 2>the best device that you can give to me? Just

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<v Speaker 2>pretend me for community leaders? Get out there and vote.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we have to do as a community to

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<v Speaker 2>make our towns and cities better? You got twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>seconds stance of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold people accountable? So everybody, so the criminal everyone complains

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<v Speaker 3>about the criminal justice system. Everybody has to do there job.

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<v Speaker 2>What can we do to make your lives easier?

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<v Speaker 3>Call us?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we can't call you. We have to call somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that's above you. Who do we get in touch with?

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<v Speaker 3>Hold people are accountable. That's that's the only thing I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody has to do their job. The courts have to

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<v Speaker 3>do their job. The the you know, you know, with

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<v Speaker 3>their clothes and jails because they don't have enough prisoners.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, police have to do their job.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to look's I got to go to break again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm City Stumpy. Listen Toughest Nails on WBZ news Radio

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<v Speaker 2>ten Theory. It'll be right back and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>its Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten Theory. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Sydney Stumpo and I'm here with Samantha. You're saying

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<v Speaker 2>a lot tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Sergeant Robin the sorry about gryd Pete, Paul Campbell, w

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<v Speaker 3>superintendent and I can't thank you guys enough for coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? Let's let's end. That's What's something fun?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one event we have coming up in August, it's

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<v Speaker 3>August sixth. It's called National Night Out. This is where

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<v Speaker 3>the police in the community come together for a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>We have food there, we have rides for kids. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the things we're asking for local commercial businesses or

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<v Speaker 3>anybody that wants to donate, is we to sponsor a ride.

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<v Speaker 3>We have several kiddy rides that are going to come

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<v Speaker 3>from American Amusements and we want them to.

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<v Speaker 2>So we need the local businesses, yes maybe locals, just

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<v Speaker 2>to help support this and they.

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<v Speaker 3>Can reach out to me police events at Forma Duco and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it that easy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's easy.

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<v Speaker 2>So see Stumbo Development can make a donation, right, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be great. Hit me up. Okay, I'm Cindy Stumble

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<v Speaker 2>you listen Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great, safe weekend, and we'll see you next week.
