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<v Speaker 1>simply safe. Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm John Favor,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm John Lovett, and Tommy newtur On today's show. We

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<v Speaker 1>got major Supreme Court decisions on mail in voting and

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's right to fire agency heads he doesn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's decision time for Trump on the bipartisan Housingville, which

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<v Speaker 1>he has threatened to hold hostage until the Save Act passes.

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<v Speaker 1>And Democratic socialists are feeling the momentum after last week's

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<v Speaker 1>primaries in New York with big primaries in Colorado today.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Heather Williams, president of the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>stopped by to talk about breaking Republican trifectas and building

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<v Speaker 1>democratic ones in a bunch of key states and how

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<v Speaker 1>critical it is that you get involved in the down

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<v Speaker 1>ballot races happening wherever you are. But let's begin where

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<v Speaker 1>Trump kicked off his week, posting this at six thirty

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<v Speaker 1>am on Monday. Do you think people appreciate what a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic job we did in building and operating the Great

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<v Speaker 1>American State Fair at the National Mall, packed with happy

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<v Speaker 1>people and everybody loving it. Question Mark, ask yourself this

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<v Speaker 1>simple question, and now we're in all caps. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that Obama he wants to say Obama, but he

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<v Speaker 1>spells it Obuma, so it's like o boomah. It just

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a type of a bummer, right, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's shorthanding them. Yeah, he's not quite getting there.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that Obama or sleepy Joe Biden could

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<v Speaker 1>have done it? The answer is a no. President is

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<v Speaker 1>of course, referring to the sixteen day exposition on the

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<v Speaker 1>National Mall that will run through July tenth to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, an event run by

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom two fifty, which is the entity Trump created to

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<v Speaker 1>compete with America two fifty, which is the bipartisan entity

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<v Speaker 1>created by Ungress years ago. Why sixteen days, that's such

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<v Speaker 1>a weird number of days. Yeah, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's a good question question I don't have answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Two weeks with an extra weekend okay, started last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Now week's really work.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but it'll be a set you oh, Saturday to

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<v Speaker 2>a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two weeks, two weeks. This is the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>he got right, I guess. Anyway, the perception that Trump

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<v Speaker 1>turned America's two hundred and fiftieth into a partisan event

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<v Speaker 1>caused all the state fair musical acts to drop out,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of Floorida and Vanilla Ice. Ten states

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<v Speaker 1>have also decided not to participate, and the opening weekend

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<v Speaker 1>was plagued by extreme heat, rain, power outages, and sparse crowds.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know this if you listen to Maga World,

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<v Speaker 1>where everyone thinks it's going great. Happy early Birthday, America.

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<v Speaker 3>We're celebrating already.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit the great.

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<v Speaker 3>American state Fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got thousands of people celebrating this birthday with us.

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<v Speaker 4>You ever, in your wildest dreams think you may be

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<v Speaker 4>doing your Sunday show from a state fair on the

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<v Speaker 4>National Mall.

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<v Speaker 3>How great is that?

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<v Speaker 1>It's really it's really something and the weather not the

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<v Speaker 1>best today, but people are still coming out to help

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<v Speaker 1>me out. I want to be a part of this. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great day for Larry good afternoon. Perhaps now

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<v Speaker 1>the closing bell is here. We're gonna get more people.

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<v Speaker 1>That work is done. You mentioned the latest with the ron.

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<v Speaker 5>If you look behind us, you see, okay, there are

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of hundred people back there. But the truth

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<v Speaker 5>is when you make your way over here and you're

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<v Speaker 5>in this lot, you're in a wash of people.

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<v Speaker 3>There's tons of people here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge space and it's just gonna get more

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<v Speaker 2>and more.

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<v Speaker 1>God as the week goes on.

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<v Speaker 6>Take yo, I think we have to give a big

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<v Speaker 6>rod of applause for our military band in singers, way

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<v Speaker 6>better than those lip tards that canceled on us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy talking about the lib tards.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think? Happy to fiftieth? Thanks? How

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<v Speaker 1>are you feeling about the festivities? Trump has organized the

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom two fifty America two fifty split in the ten

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<v Speaker 1>states that aren't participating.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought the performance by Manny was really good. Do

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<v Speaker 7>you guys catch that one? He didn't see Maga Manny

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<v Speaker 7>the live streamer who jerked off in front of the acrobat.

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<v Speaker 1>True forgot about the guy, forgot about the guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the Uncle Sam CAUs.

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<v Speaker 7>Fifty four year old right wing Maga streamer did not

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<v Speaker 7>think fifty four was the number arrested. Younger arrested by

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<v Speaker 7>park police for masturbating in front of an acrobat troop

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<v Speaker 7>called the Cirque Mechanics.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you blame him?

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<v Speaker 7>According to The Independent, fairly rearely, he was vaping recording

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<v Speaker 7>and then had a hand through the pocket of the overall.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's holding the face and.

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<v Speaker 7>I was going to say how many and then another

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<v Speaker 7>witness said he came back for round two later, and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What I think. The park police got him. Not bad

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty four. That's a good point. Yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 1>that it did look it did look sparse. But now

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<v Speaker 1>that the closing bells.

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<v Speaker 2>The traders leaving the floor of the Stock Exchange where

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<v Speaker 2>in DC gonna run up to go check out the

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<v Speaker 2>latest quilting, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, there's just something about.

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<v Speaker 2>All the like the thing that I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>is watching this all over the weekend, is just how

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<v Speaker 2>much like the whole Maga world is online. It just

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<v Speaker 2>exists online. It's a bunch of people complaining online, the

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<v Speaker 2>caricatures of the cities that are going to hell. Online,

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<v Speaker 2>just people talking to each other about how America's going

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<v Speaker 2>down the tubes on the Internet and on Fox News.

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<v Speaker 1>But like Larry.

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<v Speaker 2>Kudlow's like, oh, it looks like when's last time Larry

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<v Speaker 2>Cudlow at a fucking corn dog? When's the less time

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<v Speaker 2>he walked around to state fair? Like none of these

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<v Speaker 2>people look like they're at home in a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>outdoor event with their fellows sit.

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<v Speaker 7>It's so funny that Fox News State TV decided to

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<v Speaker 7>go all in on this event, and the net effect

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<v Speaker 7>is they have to do like sweltering live shots outdoor

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<v Speaker 7>in front of no one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just green fields and then Manny jerking off. I

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<v Speaker 1>also loved that the comment like did you ever think

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be doing your live shot from a state fair? Hypothetical?

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<v Speaker 1>It's but that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like these are just people that seem like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of unfamiliar with the country on some level.

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<v Speaker 1>Like state fairs are great. They're all over the country.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of different most states, it turns out,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah and there and you can go and there's like

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<v Speaker 2>actually the news were often broadcast from them and tell

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<v Speaker 2>you about the latest deep fried foods you can get,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was the vibe you could have had if

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<v Speaker 2>this weren't taken over by Trump like he took. He

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<v Speaker 2>took something that was bipartisan and a decade in the making.

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<v Speaker 2>You can actually go online and read what the original

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<v Speaker 2>plan is. I don't think it would have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what is going to change the country or anything, but

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been nice. There was like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of events happening all across the country. There would have

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<v Speaker 2>been kind of like a kind of a national event

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<v Speaker 2>for craft makers. It would have been big concerts by

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<v Speaker 2>famous people. There's a lot of money set aside. Trump

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<v Speaker 2>took that money, gave it to Freedom two fifty, turned

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<v Speaker 2>it into a partisan boondoggle, and now nobody's showing.

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<v Speaker 1>Up and for even though it's a five oh one

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<v Speaker 1>c three. Apparently donors who donate a million dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>more can secure an invitation to a private reception hosted

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<v Speaker 1>by Trump himself. There's not a lot of transparency on

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<v Speaker 1>the finances of Freedom two fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>And even though they've taken most of the money that

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to go to America from tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Bearers, and we do have some corporate sponsors as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, your Northrop Grummans, your United Health Groups or

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<v Speaker 1>SpaceX's you.

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<v Speaker 7>See the little army or robot dog kind of marching

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<v Speaker 7>around like filming people and performing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very dystopian there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the ferris wheel, I was. I read Devil

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<v Speaker 2>in the White City. Recently, I'm an Eric Larsen kick,

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<v Speaker 2>which is about the World's Fair in Chicago in eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety three, I believe, And that was when the first

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<v Speaker 2>farrest wheel was built. And it was this marvel because

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<v Speaker 2>they were trying to rival the Eiffel Tower, and all

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<v Speaker 2>the Europeans are like, oh, those Americans will never be

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<v Speaker 2>able to build a thing. And then we built a

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<v Speaker 2>ferris wheel that was basically a steel tower that moved.

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<v Speaker 2>It was amazing, like America is building an Eiffel Tower,

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<v Speaker 2>basically the size of the Eiffel Tower. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>would get on it and you would rotate. Freak people

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<v Speaker 2>to fuck out, and people like tried to jump off it.

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<v Speaker 2>They were freaking out because like we were saying, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, each shiit, Europe, We're gonna make something awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna build skyscraper. Is gonna be a cool country,

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<v Speaker 2>and wait till you see what America is gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>And now here we are one hundred and thirty years later,

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<v Speaker 2>we got this jag Off, you know, doing his version

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<v Speaker 2>of a great American state fair quite literally jah and

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<v Speaker 2>with jags with jagofs despair and you see.

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<v Speaker 7>The ferris wheel was broken for hours because of generator

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<v Speaker 7>issues and also there were power outages that spoiled like

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<v Speaker 7>all the food and melted all the ice cream. On

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<v Speaker 7>the first day and last minute, Vanilla Ice canceled because

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<v Speaker 7>it did inclement weather, even though he had previously said

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<v Speaker 7>rain or shine he was going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read the profile camp That doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 1>the Vanilla Ice ig know? Did you read his profile

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<v Speaker 1>in The Atlantic? Fascinating?

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<v Speaker 7>He claims to have performed for the Taliban. Just one

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<v Speaker 7>little tidbit for to.

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<v Speaker 1>What your beak go read the rest here When he

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<v Speaker 1>said that I believe he said that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>government where he feels at home. Then yeah, that it's

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<v Speaker 2>That he hadn't taken under pressure. Wasn't that he had claimed,

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<v Speaker 7>There was a great clip where he's like, no, that

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<v Speaker 7>same thing, the same thing. It's also funny some of

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not the biggest deal of anything. But the

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty anniversary could have been a moment where,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a president decided to try to at least

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<v Speaker 1>anyone could welcome. Yeah, anyone could feel welcome, you know, participating.

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<v Speaker 1>He could have just done nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>He could have just let the group America two fifty

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<v Speaker 2>that existed, had bipartisan membership, had a lot of his

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would have been offensive to us. He would

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<v Speaker 2>have come out there and said something terrible, but whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I ruined it, I will say NBC. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>New Republic went out and interviewed a bunch of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, even people that didn't like Trump were like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, this is great, this is cool, and I

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<v Speaker 1>New Republic, I like this. I don't really take Trump

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<v Speaker 1>into consideration. He's going to be gone in three years,

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<v Speaker 1>dead in ten. He's not going to take away my

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<v Speaker 1>joy of this event. He's the president, but he's not God,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he thinks he is. I wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>not going to let him take it away. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>good for you, Scott, I like that. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>attitude I want to hear from all the libste don't

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<v Speaker 1>let him take it away.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well yeah, you know, to take and away. The

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<v Speaker 7>fireworks show in DC doesn't start until eleven pm Eastern.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he has to give a long speech, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's weather too, that's so late. It's so late

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<v Speaker 2>No, the sun goes down. You look up when sunset

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<v Speaker 2>is whenever that is, I want five minutes later.

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<v Speaker 1>Explosions in the stock kids when I was a kid

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm sorry, I'm getting on my my my high horse.

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<v Speaker 1>So one DC event that will undoubtedly be packed crooked

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<v Speaker 1>kind of November, and it's fine to crank went out

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the main stage. There, Yes, it's fact

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<v Speaker 1>because then Tommy feel like, you know, yeah, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>you back. Yeah, you know what I mean, He's not

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<v Speaker 1>the only one doing letter rip. You can still get

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<v Speaker 1>dot com slash friends. So with his fair getting rained

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<v Speaker 1>out on Sunday, Trump spent the morning moticating around the Capitol.

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<v Speaker 1>He's busy rebuilding as a monument to himself. He toured

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<v Speaker 1>the East Potomac golf Links, and we'll start renovations on

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<v Speaker 1>that federally owned public course September first, despite a federal

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<v Speaker 1>judge threatening quote serious consequences if he moves ahead without approval,

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<v Speaker 1>which he seems to be doing. The President is also

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<v Speaker 1>planning to redesign Lafayette Park, which is the one right

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the White House, so that it contains

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<v Speaker 1>exactly forty seven maple trees in honor of Trump. That's

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Washington Post. If you're in town visiting

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<v Speaker 1>and hop on over to the Washington Passport Agency, you

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<v Speaker 1>might be able to pick up a limited edition US

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<v Speaker 1>passport featuring a photo of Trump at the Resolute Desk

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the Declaration of Independence, which Trump described

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<v Speaker 1>as saying, quote, welcome, but be good. Even though those

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<v Speaker 1>words don't actually appear on the passport or make any sense. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what passports are for. I did when I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this.

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<v Speaker 2>He because he said this passport says this, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are like, but that's not what passports

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<v Speaker 2>are for. You're a citizen. It's not a welcoming document.

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<v Speaker 2>You can only get it here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to leave. It's not a green car. Right to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>they come back. I think he's a little confused.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think he was describing his own portrait in

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<v Speaker 2>a way. I think he was his way of saying,

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<v Speaker 2>because my angry face here saying welcome, but be good. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>because we could take your pap he was, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>citizenship thing. We could take your citizenship.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick anyway, interpretation limited edition Act now while supplies last

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<v Speaker 1>Closer to home, The Atlantic's Michael Cher found out that

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<v Speaker 1>the new White House colonnade walkway made of quote, polished

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<v Speaker 1>African granite carved in Italy. The Trump said he paid

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<v Speaker 1>for himself, was actually paid for by US about six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety thousand dollars charged to the taxpayers. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know that had happened. I didn't either replaced

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<v Speaker 1>there's apparently another couple hundred thousand dollars spent on the

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<v Speaker 1>wall next to the colonnade, because remember he put up

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures, all the pictures, and you had to like

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<v Speaker 1>do something to the wall. I don't know why it

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<v Speaker 1>cost that much money, but to do something to the

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<v Speaker 1>so that costs money as well. Have you guys said

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<v Speaker 1>thank you yet? Have you even said thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Just a math scores in the schools are continuing to slide.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of flag some problems that are getting worse. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been president.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think that the.

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<v Speaker 7>Lafayette Park forty seven tree tribute to mand is actually

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<v Speaker 7>quite instructive because for those who've never been to Washington,

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<v Speaker 7>can't I can't overstate how underwhelming and shitty of a

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<v Speaker 7>little park it is. I've been through it a thousand times.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure you guys have too, because like you get

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<v Speaker 7>off the bus or you get off the metro, you

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<v Speaker 7>walk a block and you walk through it to get

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<v Speaker 7>to the White House, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like usually there's just a lot of squirrels.

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<v Speaker 7>And like a couple crazy people, and then that one

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<v Speaker 7>protest that's been there for like thirty years, the anti

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<v Speaker 7>war protest. But the fact that like he needs that

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<v Speaker 7>to be a tribute to himself means that like, no

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<v Speaker 7>narcissistic stone will go unturned by this man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also no one knows if he wants to add

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<v Speaker 1>trees or subtract trees, because no one knows how many

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<v Speaker 1>trees there are in lafay At Park because who would

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<v Speaker 1>count such a thing. It's just a park with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of trees. And now we're going to go figure

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<v Speaker 1>That's his favorite. Oh yeah, it's got to go with

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<v Speaker 1>his favorite. Everything's everything's about him, his favorite trees, his favorite,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say, though, you know, at this point they

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<v Speaker 2>are great. I want him in as many fucking tree

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<v Speaker 2>meetings and arc meetings and pool meetings as possible. He

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<v Speaker 2>is not busy enough if he wants to plant a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of trees, We're just three chop trees away from

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<v Speaker 2>being the Obama Lafay Park tribute. So whatever, have at it, park,

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<v Speaker 2>plant your fucking trees. Fucking asshole, but the absurd you imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine if if in the last year of

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the renovations he was going to be doing,

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of reaction you would be hearing right now

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<v Speaker 2>from from from the right of you've been.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearing it from us. You'll be here from us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, all right, plant away, buddy, plant away, yea.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy those trees. Let's get to some more consequential news.

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<v Speaker 1>The Supreme Court handed down a few big decisions on

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<v Speaker 1>Trump liable for sexually abusing and defaming Egene Carroll, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>he has to pay her that five million dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>a six' three ruling where three conservatives joined the. Liberals

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<v Speaker 1>The court also held The Fourth amendment covers your cell

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<v Speaker 1>phone location history even when you've agreed that a third

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<v Speaker 1>party Like google Or apple can record, it meaning police

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<v Speaker 1>now need a specific warrant to get, it rather than

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<v Speaker 1>a so called geofence warrant that sweeps up the movements

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<v Speaker 1>of every phone in a particular, Area so that seems.

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<v Speaker 1>Good both of those seem, good, Right we have some

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<v Speaker 1>other ones to get, through but we'd start With Egene

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<v Speaker 1>carroll and the and the. Geofencing, yeah did you Have vinzy?

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<v Speaker 1>One is just.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting it's also interesting that it's like it's a non

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<v Speaker 2>ideological it has a kind of a ideologically mixed, ruling

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<v Speaker 2>and part BECAUSE i do think it's like a novel.

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<v Speaker 2>Question and if we are going to have kind of

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<v Speaker 2>allowing these companies to track us, digitally including in ways

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<v Speaker 2>that in a previous era would have been only private,

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<v Speaker 2>information then it's still being Like google has already changed

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<v Speaker 2>their policy so your location data is stored on your.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone they did that to avoid this. Issue but if

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<v Speaker 2>my phone knows WHERE i am at all, TIMES i

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<v Speaker 2>view that information as both like my private information and

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<v Speaker 2>useful to. Me whether or not it is stored directly

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<v Speaker 2>on my phone or stored at a, server it remains

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<v Speaker 2>my private information in the same way that IF i

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<v Speaker 2>had written it all down and put it in my

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<v Speaker 2>safe deposit, box it had remain private. Information AND i

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<v Speaker 2>think the more that when they're thinking about how to

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<v Speaker 2>translate our principles into a digital, world the, more they're

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<v Speaker 2>respecting how we actually use things and how what privacy really,

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<v Speaker 2>means not sort of the technical definition that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>Are the. Better, yeah it's definitely it's a limited but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Good it's a win and a good day for.

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<v Speaker 7>PRIVACY i, mean like the government was trying to argue

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<v Speaker 7>that like just demanding to the little tiny taste of

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<v Speaker 7>your location, history uh for a discreete period of, time

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<v Speaker 7>was not a, search which is just. Nonsense AND i

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<v Speaker 7>think the court saw through that because you can learn

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<v Speaker 1>Fdc Commissioner Rebecca, slaughter who brought the case without any specific.

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<v Speaker 1>decided That Fed Governor Lisa, cook Whom trump And Bill

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<v Speaker 1>trump said The slaughter ruling quote greatly increases presidential power

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<v Speaker 1>at a time when it is most. Needed he is

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<v Speaker 1>right about the first. Part how do you guys square

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<v Speaker 1>what the court said about The cook firing versus what

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<v Speaker 1>it's saying about all the.

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<v Speaker 7>Others, well, so what the court says is THE ftc

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<v Speaker 7>is an entity that exercises executive. Power THE fed is

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<v Speaker 7>different because it's supposed to be a non political entity

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<v Speaker 7>that is insulated from presidential. Pressure and they argue that

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<v Speaker 7>THE fed has to be independent because even the appearance

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<v Speaker 7>of political pressure could destroy the faith in THE us. Economy,

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<v Speaker 7>NOW i think THE ftc case is very. Bad they

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<v Speaker 7>throughout ninety one years of precedent and basically THE ftc

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<v Speaker 7>the implications go well beyond THE. Ftc The president can

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<v Speaker 7>now fire leaders at will from THE, sec The Consumer

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<v Speaker 7>Labor Relations.

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<v Speaker 1>Board the list goes on basically everywhere about THE.

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<v Speaker 7>Fed everywhere with THE, fed and he can sort of

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<v Speaker 7>paralyze those entities by making them not have enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Members they don't have a, quorum so they can't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Meet so it's quite.

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<v Speaker 7>Bad THE fed is different because monetary policy has to

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<v Speaker 7>be free from political manipulation and perceived. Meddling but even

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<v Speaker 7>in this, case like ominously For, cook the court said

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<v Speaker 7>That trump could try to fire her, again they just.

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<v Speaker 7>Didn't they, said he didn't go through the, process, right

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<v Speaker 7>he didn't tell her why she was being fired and

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<v Speaker 7>given her a chance to robut the.

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<v Speaker 1>Charges and, yes they said. THAT i Think roberts sort

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<v Speaker 1>got the pros 's. Wrong and so while it's still,

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<v Speaker 1>litigating she can be on the, job but they still

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<v Speaker 1>have to prove that she did something. Wrong she can

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<v Speaker 1>be fired for cause exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>Right under The Federal Reserve, act The president can only

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<v Speaker 7>move A fed governor if they are fired for.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause and he didn't meet that standard by presenting any. Evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>Right so if she doesn't get if her case goes,

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<v Speaker 1>away then like then there's no, cause, Right but it

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<v Speaker 1>won't go.

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<v Speaker 2>Away it's, ironically it just puts more pressure on the

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<v Speaker 2>administration to politically Prosecute Lisa cook until they can claim

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<v Speaker 2>that she can be fired for.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause that what will? Happen they leave the door open to.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of evaluating whether or not they've met some threshold for,

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<v Speaker 2>cause whatever that would. Mean it's interesting kind of reading

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<v Speaker 2>that going back and forth between the ruling and the,

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<v Speaker 2>descent because they're all so like mad at each, other

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<v Speaker 2>WHICH i think is is very.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny but then you Read. Gorsa she wrote this like

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting concurring opinion about.

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<v Speaker 2>It AND i see a lot of people today Saying democrats, Win,

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<v Speaker 2>oh we'll just put our people in charge and now

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<v Speaker 2>will have that. Power but as like The Sodama rare

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<v Speaker 2>notes in the, Dissent congress creates THE. Ftc the court

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<v Speaker 2>says that these people can be insulated from being fired

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<v Speaker 2>by the, president and then they give all these independent,

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<v Speaker 2>agencies not just executive, authority, right but legislative authority and judicial.

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<v Speaker 2>Authority So congress creates these independent, agencies and they're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of quasi, legislative. Right they can write rules and regulate

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<v Speaker 2>and do things That congress could. Do they also do

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<v Speaker 2>things an executive could. Do and the majority decided that

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<v Speaker 2>given that kind of mix between the, authorities they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to give all the power to the. President, Right so

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<v Speaker 2>the president is now taking all the legislative authorities that

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<v Speaker 2>were granted all the judicial authorities that were granted and,

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<v Speaker 2>oh one Of democrat wins will have the same. Authority

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<v Speaker 2>but Then gorses comes back and says, no because we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to look at this again in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Future so in deciding.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether or not to allow there to be an independent

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<v Speaker 2>agency or, not the court said, no we'd rather make

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<v Speaker 2>the president like a supreme authority over all these legislative.

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<v Speaker 2>Functions but if A democrat becomes, president we'll just come

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<v Speaker 2>back and, say, no one has this, authority will strike.

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<v Speaker 1>A bunch of this. Down that's that's not what the majority. Opinions, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no but that's What gorsic is saying happens, next and

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<v Speaker 1>there is going To but that is what's. Happen it

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<v Speaker 1>is Because robert's, opinion roberts argument is it's all unitary executive,

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<v Speaker 1>theory and they have been. So roberts, says the president

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<v Speaker 1>may remove his. Subordinates it will because subordinates who exercise

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<v Speaker 1>the president's power must be accountable to him and he

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<v Speaker 1>to the. People and that's where it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ends but this is the problem because it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>the president's, power it's congressional. Power the reason there was

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<v Speaker 2>think this is Why sodamior And kagan are so pissed

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<v Speaker 2>about it is you're not just giving the president his executive.

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<v Speaker 2>Authority you are stealing power From congress Because congress delegated

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<v Speaker 2>some of ITS.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that for. Sure i'm just SAYING i

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<v Speaker 1>Think roberts And, kavanaugh the unitary executive, people, yes would

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<v Speaker 1>be very comfortable being consistent with The democratic president on

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of, stuff which they have shown.

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<v Speaker 2>Before except this wouldn't be about where the authority should.

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<v Speaker 2>Rest this would be about saying that NOW i think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad no matter. WHAT i don't think democratic presidents Or

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<v Speaker 1>republican president should have.

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<v Speaker 2>See but you come back in and then you, say,

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<v Speaker 2>actually you can't do this because this whole agency shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>so now we're Not we're no longer going to say

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<v Speaker 7>CHEVRON i Think Leah lilt been in a conversation With

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<v Speaker 7>poulty who, tweeted As i've repeatedly, SAID i Believe Lisa

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<v Speaker 7>cook will be indicted for mortgage. Fraud no, shit this

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<v Speaker 7>is a case he cooked up as THE Us director

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<v Speaker 7>Of Federal. Housing he is now tweeting this attack on

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<v Speaker 7>her from his new job as the Temporary director Of National.

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<v Speaker 1>Intelligence that is. CHILLING i, mean, yeah the whole. THING i,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we're talking about is who knows what will?

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<v Speaker 1>Happen right if this comes up. AGAIN i think that

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<v Speaker 1>the upshot of this whole thing is there are no

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<v Speaker 1>more independent ages except for THE, fed the one, potentially

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<v Speaker 1>and so that means That, Justice, Department, intelligence all the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of, them everything That trump has done over the

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<v Speaker 1>last four years now gets to happen, Again like this is,

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<v Speaker 1>This this is just this is what The Supreme as

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<v Speaker 1>long as This Supreme court majority is in, place they

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<v Speaker 1>believe that that no one has to be independent except

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<v Speaker 1>for THE.

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<v Speaker 2>Fed, well and the distinction they're breaking down right like

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<v Speaker 2>it was always the, case there were a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>executive agencies that The president was totally in charge Of

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<v Speaker 2>what they're saying is that these independent agencies are no longer,

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<v Speaker 2>independent even though those agencies were made incredibly powerful By

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<v Speaker 2>congress in ways that assumed that the president would be

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<v Speaker 2>like The that to me is where the kind of, Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>NOW ftc looks a lot like The department Of, justice

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<v Speaker 2>except THE ftc can do more than what The department

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<v Speaker 2>Of justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Could, meanwhile in a very close five to four decision

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<v Speaker 1>Where John robertson And Amy Cony barrett sided with The,

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<v Speaker 1>liberals The Supreme court ruled in favor of A mississippi

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<v Speaker 1>law allowing the state to count mail in ballots that

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<v Speaker 1>are postmarked by election day but arrive. After the decision

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<v Speaker 1>could preempt similar legal challenges By republicans and at least

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen other states the continue counting ballots that arrive after election.

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<v Speaker 1>Day trump wind about the decision and said it proves

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<v Speaker 1>the need For Senate republicans to pass His Save, act

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<v Speaker 1>name dropping the five holdouts on truth Social how meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>or not do you guys think this is in the

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<v Speaker 1>context of the Larger trump assault on voting?

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<v Speaker 7>RIGHTS i, MEAN i think it allows like thirty states

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<v Speaker 7>to keep their policies in place in terms of how

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<v Speaker 7>they count mail in. Ballots so that's pretty. Important i'm

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<v Speaker 7>sure the ongoing assault on voting rights will. CONTINUE i,

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<v Speaker 7>mean it was a five four. Decision it Was TRUMP'S

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<v Speaker 7>doj and THE rnc trying to strike down A mississippi

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<v Speaker 7>law allowing ballots to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Counted i'm glad to see they made this.

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<v Speaker 7>Decision it just it feels just like part of a

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<v Speaker 7>broader process of just constantly chipping. Away and maybe this

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<v Speaker 7>chip didn't come, undone but there will be many more.

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<v Speaker 1>Attempts. Yeah So dan AND i talked last episode about

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<v Speaker 1>How trump's trying to get The Save act passed by

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<v Speaker 1>refusing to sign the by Partisan housing bill until it

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<v Speaker 1>Is On, Monday Mike johnson Sent trump The housing bill,

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<v Speaker 1>anyway which means that it will become law in ten

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<v Speaker 1>days Unless trump signs it sooner or vetos. It the

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<v Speaker 1>bill passed so overwhelmingly The congress could override A trump,

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<v Speaker 1>veto Though House republicans are now unclear if they'll have the.

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<v Speaker 1>Votes just listen to What Florida Representative Randy fine said

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<v Speaker 1>On monday Morning.

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<v Speaker 3>My issue was If Elizabeth warren thinks a bill is,

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<v Speaker 3>great then it probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't and that's sort of HOW i.

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<v Speaker 3>Look but the enthusiasm with Which democrats had for this

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<v Speaker 3>bill got me. Spooked AND i didn't come To washington

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<v Speaker 3>to work With. DEMOCRATS i came To washington to beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Them here's a message for. You uh did you read

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<v Speaker 1>the bill before you voted for? Her probably. Not and

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<v Speaker 1>here's What trump said On monday when asked whether he'll

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<v Speaker 1>sign the. Bill what are your plans for the housing

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<v Speaker 1>bill as the?

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<v Speaker 7>PRESIDENT i don't.

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<v Speaker 4>KNOW i think it is so unimportant by compared to,

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<v Speaker 4>by compared to The Save American WHEN i look at that,

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<v Speaker 4>bill it's a. Bill but WHEN i look at The

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<v Speaker 4>save and it's the Best.

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<v Speaker 8>Saving america to, me compared to The Save America, act

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<v Speaker 8>just about everything is a big.

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<v Speaker 5>Yawn.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow he's really part of The Iran. War bart Of

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<v Speaker 1>housing just wants to. Recollections how badly do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>Think trump And republicans have fucked up the politics of this?

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<v Speaker 1>Bill and what do you guys think of the final?

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<v Speaker 7>PRODUCT i, mean the goal is to boost housing supply and.

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<v Speaker 7>Affordability they're going to like streamline environmental reviews and encourage.

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<v Speaker 1>Development i'm not an expert on this.

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<v Speaker 7>Stuff it passed with eighty five votes in The senate

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<v Speaker 7>and three hundred and fifty eight votes in The. House

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<v Speaker 7>it's like overwhelming bipartisan. SUPPORT i will leave it to

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<v Speaker 7>smarter people to see if it will really solve the.

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<v Speaker 7>Job but, like politically, speaking this is a very important

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<v Speaker 7>issue to The american, People like voters overwhelmingly think housing

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<v Speaker 7>costs are really. Important huge majorities Want congress to do

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<v Speaker 7>something about. It the underlying components of the, bill when

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<v Speaker 7>you peel them out and pull, them are very popular

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<v Speaker 7>for young people in. Particular they feel like they're never

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<v Speaker 7>going to be able to afford a, home like sixty

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<v Speaker 7>seventy percent of. Majorities and so to say that that's

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<v Speaker 7>a big yawn when it could have been your like

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<v Speaker 7>crowning legislative accomplishment on housing as opposed to The Save,

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<v Speaker 7>act which is a thing that people are like fifty

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<v Speaker 7>two percent think it's maybe a good idea because there's

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<v Speaker 7>by the, way there's just not a huge issue in

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<v Speaker 7>this country of undocumented non citizens registering to vote or

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<v Speaker 7>whatever the hell he's talking. About so not going to.

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<v Speaker 7>Pass it's not going to. Pass want that's what the

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<v Speaker 7>that's the whole that's the whole, thing so.

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<v Speaker 1>Stupid, yeah there's no leverage.

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<v Speaker 2>Here it's fight because part of, it right is, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is a housing bill that's about addressing the long

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<v Speaker 2>term causes of a lack of housing stock and the

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<v Speaker 2>rising price of. Housing there's no, like, yeah he's being clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Fixed he does know that no one's going to feel

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<v Speaker 1>the effects of the housing for a year for. Years,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah and then if it's a good, build you can sell,

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<v Speaker 1>it right you, Can, yeah you can try to buy an. Administration,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah There Recovery act is divided into three, parts, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you can try to say it's a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing but, yeah, uh there was a there was a

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<v Speaker 2>little the commini fight as part of this bill for

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<v Speaker 2>a for the details are, complicated but basically to try

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent institutional investors from sitting on houses that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of experts thought would have kind of a counter

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<v Speaker 2>railing effect to what the bill was going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it might actually cause housing prices to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Up Senator Brian shott's friend of the, show was accused

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<v Speaker 2>of me a corporate stooge for pointing this, out including

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<v Speaker 2>by a lot of, progressives and they did manage to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of change that rule in such a way that

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<v Speaker 2>it's no longer going to have that effect in that

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<v Speaker 2>one the day, too which WAS i think a good

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<v Speaker 2>victory for the kind of mb abundance people that were

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<v Speaker 2>arguing that he wasn't being a corporate. Stooge he was

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about basic economics and what the impact would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be but like this was a bipartisan. Bill Elizabeth warren

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<v Speaker 2>hard for this. BILL a ton Of republicans voted for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill it's a rare kind of policy making, victory like

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<v Speaker 2>from another. Era and of course right on the one yard,

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<v Speaker 2>line they were literally putting up the podium and people

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<v Speaker 2>will speaking with. Them we were speaking at the. Podium

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<v Speaker 2>the event was basically already tweeting out how excited they. Were, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah Caroline levitt posted about how the most, important one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most important bills ever something to that, effect

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<v Speaker 2>and he just rips the rug out right from under

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<v Speaker 2>all of, them and now they are afraid to support

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<v Speaker 2>it even though it has a veto proof majority because

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<v Speaker 2>the deer leader says he would rather rig.

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<v Speaker 1>ELECTIONS i haven't seen these stories, yet But i'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to the anonymous Frontline republicans and races who were

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<v Speaker 1>like getting ads ready to tee up the housing bill

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<v Speaker 1>as part of how they were going to tackle the

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<v Speaker 1>issue of affordability and work with the other party to

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<v Speaker 1>show that they're bipartisan because they're in a district that you,

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<v Speaker 1>Know Kamala harris won or that's you Know trumpe they

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<v Speaker 1>won by a Couple just hear what they think about.

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<v Speaker 7>This another, RESPONSE ads like big, Yawn, yes as the, President,

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<v Speaker 7>okay so that'll be.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun so if he, doesn't if he refuses to sign

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<v Speaker 2>it And congress doesn't, adjourn it'll become. Law but if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to deal with, it they could Adjourn

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<v Speaker 2>congress and let the thing. Die is that basically the

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<v Speaker 2>gist of it's what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>In ten, days it becomes one unless he vetos. It if,

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<v Speaker 1>okay what's the how would? He, YEAH i, DON'T i

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the cons that's just the THAT'S i. DON'T

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<v Speaker 1>i don't. Know All i've seen is the ten days

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes long ten days or he vetos, it you,

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<v Speaker 1>know listening to the whole thing, there he's gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>it become. Law, YEAH i don't think a baby about

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<v Speaker 1>it unless now someone could who, knows, right he changed

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<v Speaker 1>his mind on a, dime so some something could piss

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<v Speaker 1>him off between now and when he decided to sign.

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<v Speaker 1>It but there he sounded, like, Fuck i'm annoyed THAT

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<v Speaker 1>i have to do, this BUT i threw a tantrum

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<v Speaker 1>and Now i'm just gonna let this bill become low

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<v Speaker 1>But i'm not going to be happy about.

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<v Speaker 7>It that's sort of WHAT i, got just cutting off

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<v Speaker 7>his nose despite his, face someone gave him really dumb

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<v Speaker 7>last minute advice about how to use this bill for

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<v Speaker 7>leverage to get the same act.

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<v Speaker 1>Pack it was probably Probably Bill poult exactly What i'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Say the mortgage, yeah because he passion sign mortgage mortgage

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<v Speaker 1>using and Dick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and he's, also by the, way he he did

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<v Speaker 2>promise not to sign any new legislation until The Save

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<v Speaker 2>act was. Passed he just instantly wrote that, promise so

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<v Speaker 2>always said he was going to. Do Promise, cat he's

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<v Speaker 2>a Promise.

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<v Speaker 1>about the debate inside The Democratic, party which is likely

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<v Speaker 1>to keep raging this week As colorado becomes the next

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<v Speaker 1>state to hold primaries On. Tuesday fifteen Term Congresswoman diana

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<v Speaker 1>To get is in danger of losing to twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>year OLD dsa Member Milatt. Kiros Senator Michael, bennett who's

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<v Speaker 1>running for, governor is also getting a serious challenge from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Left republicans are having fun with all of. This trump

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<v Speaker 1>spent much of the weekend posting about, communism While democrats

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<v Speaker 1>offered their takes on THE dsa wins in last Week's

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<v Speaker 1>New york. Primaries Here's Zoron mumdani, Himself Josh, shapiro And Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Murphy Josh, gotttheimer A democratic member Of, congress, said many of.

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<v Speaker 1>Us, believe as DO. I if you're a, socialist you

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<v Speaker 1>are not A.

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat and in, fact they put out a manifesto.

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<v Speaker 1>Today have you seen this?

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<v Speaker 5>Thing sounds pretty socialist to. Me democratic socialism at the

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<v Speaker 5>heart is, pragmatic because if we cannot deliver for working,

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<v Speaker 5>people then what is this. For i'm not interested in

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<v Speaker 5>writing a manifesto or, frankly in reading. One i'm interested in,

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<v Speaker 5>delivering and that's exactly what we've been.

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<v Speaker 4>Showing democratic voters In New york chose three candidates back By,

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<v Speaker 4>zoramumdani far left and democratic socialist. Candidates what message do

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<v Speaker 4>you take from that about where your party.

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<v Speaker 9>Is we know those were races and individual districts in

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<v Speaker 9>a whole other. STATE i think what is important are

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<v Speaker 9>the people who are making a lot in the, ways

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<v Speaker 9>who are engaging in these performative, politics have to now

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<v Speaker 9>figure out how to deliver.

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<v Speaker 8>Results i'm not A democratic, socialist BUT i do believe

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<v Speaker 8>that The Democratic party has been historically way too timid

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<v Speaker 8>in taking on corporate. Power democrats are not going to

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<v Speaker 8>win by defending this version of, capitalism BUT i think

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<v Speaker 8>we'll be able to offer ideas on how to dramatically

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<v Speaker 8>reform it rather than throwing out the entire.

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<v Speaker 1>System all, Right, Well Chris murphy doing a Little goldilocks

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. There i've already said. Plenty so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can kick us off with your reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>this debate and what it all. Means you waited on,

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<v Speaker 1>THIS i, Did, YEAH i didn't notice. That as a

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<v Speaker 1>clip From thursday's pot.

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<v Speaker 7>Look for what it's worth slot into The murphy. CAMP i, mean,

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<v Speaker 7>LIKE i think my big takeaway from The New yor

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<v Speaker 7>collections is how much voters hate the establishment and the

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<v Speaker 7>status AND i think that is not new. Information every

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<v Speaker 7>poll we've seen is like people really Hate. Trump they

913
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<v Speaker 7>also hate The Democratic. Party things are not. Great these

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<v Speaker 7>people are. Pissed the RESULTS i think hammer home just

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<v Speaker 7>how angry voters are and that they are happy to

916
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<v Speaker 7>trade a powerful incumbent for something new to demonstrate that.

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<v Speaker 7>Anger does that mean that every district is going to

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<v Speaker 7>want the furthest left Candidate No lak who's on the

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<v Speaker 7>ballot and from The Democratic party In, iowa for, Example

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<v Speaker 7>they're very different than The york. Races that's not surprising at.

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<v Speaker 7>ALL i think what's exhausting about this and that you

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<v Speaker 7>experienced is just how much everyone's talking past each, other

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<v Speaker 7>because like a lot of people want the same thing

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<v Speaker 7>and they're labeling it. Differently Like i'm sure there are

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<v Speaker 7>SOME dsa members who are like classical, socialists like The

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<v Speaker 7>marxist Lenin, estate BUT i think most people do not want.

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<v Speaker 7>That it's certainly not What Bernie sanders. Wants he is

928
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<v Speaker 7>talking about redistributing economic power through the democratic, process not

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<v Speaker 7>a Violent bolshevik. Revolution people eaves in civil liberties and

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<v Speaker 7>elections and change through democratic. Means and it's a world

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<v Speaker 7>view that is a lot closer to The Labor party

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<v Speaker 7>in THE, uk or Like nordic. Countries then you, know

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<v Speaker 7>something radical like medicare for all of THE, nhs, Right,

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<v Speaker 7>like these are not crazy, ideas But trump And republicans, say, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, communism, Right this is all about drumming.

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<v Speaker 7>Up Like Cold war era. Fears and that is more

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<v Speaker 7>politically potent than saying you want A scandinavian welfare.

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<v Speaker 1>State BUT i think no one goes after the. Scan,

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<v Speaker 1>now well they got all. That guess social democracy what

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<v Speaker 1>is the?

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<v Speaker 7>Term, yes They in a country with a two party,

942
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<v Speaker 7>system this is. Inevitable you're going to have a huge

943
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<v Speaker 7>range of opinions within the party FROM dsa TO. Dlc

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<v Speaker 7>AND i think if we want to effectively fight back Against,

945
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<v Speaker 7>trump we're going to have to find a way to

946
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<v Speaker 7>work together and kind of bridge some of these gaps

947
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<v Speaker 7>and find common cause on. Things and you know which

948
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<v Speaker 7>is where the kind Of josh gottheimer kind of you're

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<v Speaker 7>with us or against, us you're a democrat or you're

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<v Speaker 7>a socialist. THING i think it's just reductive and stupid

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<v Speaker 7>and not.

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<v Speaker 1>Helpful it's. Counterproductive why are we doing?

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<v Speaker 4>This?

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<v Speaker 2>YEAH i, LOOK i know that you had sort of

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<v Speaker 2>said your peace about, this AND i found very few

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<v Speaker 2>responses to what you said about trying to persuade you

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<v Speaker 2>or kind of think about what you're saying and try

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<v Speaker 2>to respond to it in a way that was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of treating you as you were acting in good. Faith

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of. That, yeah, look it is The. Internet so.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the most liberal districts in the country are

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like they can have someone who is further to

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<v Speaker 2>left and they know they're going to win In, november

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<v Speaker 2>and they want that kind of person fighting for, them

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<v Speaker 2>or they want to support the person That bernie And

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<v Speaker 2>Mom donnie got behind because they really like. Them they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of love for establishment. Figures they

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like establishing politics has done well for, them

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<v Speaker 2>even when those establishing figures are to the. Left that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean That joshapiro is not one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>popular governors in the, country or that if there was

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<v Speaker 2>just a poll out that said who are the most

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<v Speaker 2>popular political, figures, well They're Barack obama And Bernie. Sanders Right,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a complicated heterodox. Country we have the big,

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<v Speaker 2>one big pro democracy. COALITION i think that puts responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>on both sides of this. Divide on The Josh, Gotdheimer Jamie,

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison James carvill. Side you can disagree with, PEOPLE i

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<v Speaker 2>think you should be really critical of. Them you should

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<v Speaker 2>say why you. DISAGREE i Think Josh piro actually did this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's LIKE i have strong disagreements this district in another.

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<v Speaker 2>State that that's one, district And i'll defend my. Views

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<v Speaker 2>the people should defend their own without saying that these

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<v Speaker 2>people have no place in our. Coalition if you are

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<v Speaker 2>A democratic, socialist you are not A democrat like you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get to decide. That The democratic voters in those

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<v Speaker 2>districts went to the polls and decided the party reflects

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<v Speaker 2>what the voters. Want the voters aren't meant to follow

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<v Speaker 2>what the party tells. Them right defines A democrat if.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Mom donnie had said that that in somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>that interview THAT i thought was, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and if parts of your coalition are further than the,

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<v Speaker 2>left then you like well have an argument with, him

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<v Speaker 2>figure out the places where you agree and figure out

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<v Speaker 2>an agenda. Together Joe biden wins the primary in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty and, ACTUALLY i thought did pretty extraordinary job of

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<v Speaker 2>talking To Elizabeth warren And Bernie sanders and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>finding a way to bring those people into his coalition

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where they were some of the people

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<v Speaker 2>advocating for him the.

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<v Speaker 1>Most after he blew the.

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<v Speaker 2>Debate so are there is a way to bring these

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<v Speaker 2>sides of the party Together on the other, side it

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<v Speaker 2>is not just because someone is on your team and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to and you don't like the Mainstream democrats

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<v Speaker 2>and you think they're two, centrists doesn't mean that people

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<v Speaker 2>on the left don't have to answer for some of

1008
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<v Speaker 2>the dumbest or most heinous things that they've said in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Past and by the way that people.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we've talked About graham plattin people deserve a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to explain the difference between who they were before they

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<v Speaker 2>were in public life and who they are now now

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<v Speaker 2>that they have a bigger platform and more. Responsibility they

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<v Speaker 2>deserve that. Chance but also that is a. Responsibility you

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<v Speaker 2>are part of a. Coalition speak your, mind say your,

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<v Speaker 2>peace but also know, that like, yes Sometimes republicans are

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<v Speaker 2>going to take, words either in context or out of

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<v Speaker 2>context and try to paint people that you should also

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<v Speaker 2>want to win with what you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Said in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Past it's just where it's it's it's collectively doing what

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<v Speaker 2>IS i think the work of being part of one,

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<v Speaker 2>big fractious.

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<v Speaker 4>Team.

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<v Speaker 1>YEAH aoc was asked about this in an interview With Jen,

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<v Speaker 1>saki and you, know she said this without referring directly

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<v Speaker 1>To Daria Liza, chevalier but she was, like, LOOK i

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<v Speaker 1>think what happens is from my, experience when you actually

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<v Speaker 1>take these jobs and you go into, office the weight

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<v Speaker 1>of the office and the weight of the, job it

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<v Speaker 1>does change you and, it you, know it makes you

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<v Speaker 1>realize the responsibility you, have which is you, know WHAT

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<v Speaker 1>i said On friday, is, look she has these views

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<v Speaker 1>that she just articulated a week before the, election not

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<v Speaker 1>in her old tweets a week before the. Election but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she'll go To congress and vote in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't align with some of the more extreme, positions

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<v Speaker 1>in which, case, great everyone deserves the grace to change

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<v Speaker 1>and prove, themselves which is like WHAT i. Thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty pretty normal to. Say i'm not. Concerned and

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<v Speaker 1>Again i'm not concerned about LIKE dsa candidates or progressive

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<v Speaker 1>candidate's knocking off Incumbent democrats and deep blue. Districts that's

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<v Speaker 1>what primaries. Are for primaries are. GOOD i think primaries

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<v Speaker 1>are good no matter. What if the progressive, wins if

1045
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the moderate wins their, primaries they're, fine that's what the voters.

1046
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Want i'm also not concerned about WHAT dsa wins For

1047
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>dems in more competitive. Districts my only advice for those

1048
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.039
<v Speaker 1>front Line, dems WHICH i had said On, friday is

1049
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 1>don't be afraid to distance yourself FROM dsa positions that

1050
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you disagree. With if someone asks you whether you agree

1051
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:33.199
<v Speaker 1>with abolishing prisons and police and, borders and you don't

1052
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 1>just say, that say that you don't light the, ideas

1053
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:37.519
<v Speaker 1>say that they're, terrible say that they're not that. Great

1054
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 1>so whatever you want to, say but, like don't be

1055
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>afraid to say, that because then folks on the left

1056
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:44.800
<v Speaker 1>will be mad at you that you said you didn't

1057
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 1>light that. Idea you don't have to attack the people

1058
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and try to purge them from the. Party you have

1059
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.639
<v Speaker 1>to attack their character or their. PERSON i don't want

1060
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.360
<v Speaker 1>to do that with anyone who. Want but you can

1061
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:53.519
<v Speaker 1>disagree with the.

1062
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Ideas and by the, way LIKE i also then and

1063
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:58.119
<v Speaker 2>and if you AND i think there's nothing WHERE i was,

1064
00:48:58.119 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 2>saying Like i'm not a socialist AND i actually, think

1065
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 2>you know. SOCIALISM i want to figure out whatever a

1066
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:06.320
<v Speaker 2>person like A Josh godemmer would say it has been

1067
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:07.960
<v Speaker 2>their actual point of, View Like i'm not a, SOCIALIST

1068
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 2>i don't agree with socialist ideas whatever it looks. Like

1069
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>but to say like and THEREFORE i cast you out

1070
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:15.719
<v Speaker 2>as it means to protecting what you think the brand should,

1071
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.119
<v Speaker 2>be as opposed to saying AND i look forward to

1072
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 2>having that disagreement approach BECAUSE i want to make my

1073
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 2>argument for how for WHY i think that it could.

1074
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Be such A godheimerson then would say that, like all,

1075
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>right let's discuss. This let's discuss your ideas and have

1076
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 1>a debate and we can learn to work. Together maybe

1077
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:31.159
<v Speaker 1>we can find some common ground on stuff that we do.

1078
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:33.559
<v Speaker 7>Aground, yeah but, that, yeah it's just posturing us political.

1079
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:37.239
<v Speaker 7>Paustion like The godheimer version of this is. FRUSTRATING i

1080
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 7>think the reaction to you that was sort of, like

1081
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.320
<v Speaker 7>how dare you criticize an elected? OFFICIAL i find that's

1082
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 7>so patronizing and stupid because once you're an elected, office

1083
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:44.480
<v Speaker 7>like everything is up for.

1084
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Grabs you're going to be criticized for. Everything it just

1085
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 1>is what it.

1086
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:49.719
<v Speaker 7>Is, also the freak, out LIKE i think the establishment

1087
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.360
<v Speaker 7>should be worried about what it means for them, electorally

1088
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 7>but the people who are like the parties off the

1089
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:57.320
<v Speaker 7>rails is going to change. Everything like we heard exactly

1090
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.119
<v Speaker 7>the same shit in twenty eighteen WHEN Aoc beach Oh

1091
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.199
<v Speaker 7>crowley and there was all this fear mongering about the

1092
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 7>squad and then we Nominated Joe biden to be Our

1093
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.800
<v Speaker 7>democratic nominee in twenty, twenty and you know what establishment,

1094
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:09.079
<v Speaker 7>Moderates And.

1095
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Joe biden went out there and said for all that

1096
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 1>he did to bring In bernie and the, left he also,

1097
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 1>said AND i think defund the police is a horrible,

1098
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Idea and he said it like he articulated it and

1099
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.119
<v Speaker 1>said it, specifically and the left got really mad at.

1100
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Him but it's probably good that he did that because

1101
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>then people know Where Joe biden stood on that issue

1102
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:28.679
<v Speaker 1>and didn't lump him in with the. Left it's like

1103
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 1>The republicans tried, to but it didn't. Work the online

1104
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:32.239
<v Speaker 1>reaction to you is just the sort of like the

1105
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>most annoying version of an online, reaction which.

1106
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 4>Is like.

1107
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 7>It must have been in bad, Faith like you, know

1108
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:41.639
<v Speaker 7>it means you're dead to, Them you're like a, Shill

1109
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 7>you're a, corporatis you should Be luigi like, whatever like, insane.

1110
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Literally, people and it's like everyone calmed the fuck. Down

1111
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a political. Discussion some of the whole. Video put

1112
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:52.960
<v Speaker 1>my picture nexs To Mike johnson and, said these these

1113
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.559
<v Speaker 1>two are the. Same but this is like we've been

1114
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 1>saying that for. YEARS i know that's. True IT'S i

1115
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>do like to monitor other people's. Porn, yeah so that's your,

1116
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:03.119
<v Speaker 1>King well many back to.

1117
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Guy. Yeah and but also by like Mom, DONNIE i

1118
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.679
<v Speaker 2>mean we, INTERVIEWED i talked to him Mom donni about this, directly.

1119
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Right like he's so, smart he gets. It but also

1120
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>by the, way Like i'm, saying that's the thing's LIKE

1121
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:14.320
<v Speaker 1>aoc so smart about.

1122
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 2>This he is defending views THAT i think maybe would

1123
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 2>be unpalatable to a lot Of. Americans but he's the

1124
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:21.079
<v Speaker 2>mayor Of New, york so he's free to do. That

1125
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 2>he's evolving on certain, things he's trying to persuade on other.

1126
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Things he did so much work to try to demonstrate

1127
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:30.320
<v Speaker 2>To Jewish New yorkers that he could be relied on

1128
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.039
<v Speaker 2>as an opponent of Anti semitism without giving an inch

1129
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 2>on some of his views that are Anti.

1130
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Israel including condemning the rally That chevalier went.

1131
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.719
<v Speaker 2>To, yeah and, so like, HE i do think online

1132
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:47.039
<v Speaker 2>is so it's so, toxic, Right but like actual, organizers

1133
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:50.000
<v Speaker 2>EVEN dsa organizers that are actually trying to do this,

1134
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.840
<v Speaker 2>WORK i think probably are not as toxic as what

1135
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you are. Getting though at the same, time there is

1136
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.639
<v Speaker 2>there are people in the real world following people Like

1137
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Scott wiener, around yelling at them on the.

1138
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Streets let's talk about that. Then Scott, wiener The State

1139
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>center From San francisco who's running to Replace Nancy, pelosi

1140
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>was over the weekends surrounded and berated by a gang

1141
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Of heckler's at the city's annual trans, march who told

1142
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>him that his long record of fighting for trans wrights

1143
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:18.039
<v Speaker 1>was no longer sufficient because of his record On. Israel

1144
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 1>let's take a.

1145
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:23.239
<v Speaker 6>Listen, Yes, SCOTT i want to support someone who's so

1146
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:26.280
<v Speaker 6>positive about trans, rights but you're a piece.

1147
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Of, shit my, yawsa how could you do? That how

1148
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:35.320
<v Speaker 1>could you betray? Queers how could you propress these? People

1149
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you stuff don't queer the moment you Said pisa, SET

1150
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.679
<v Speaker 1>i just want to read From wiener's website what his

1151
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>positions are On israel And. Palestine he has publicly called

1152
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:52.119
<v Speaker 1>The israeli government's action In gaza, genocide Joining Bernie sanders

1153
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And Representative bailant as one of the only three Prominent

1154
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 1>jewish elected officials in the country to do. So he

1155
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.360
<v Speaker 1>has never taken any money FROM, apak he has no

1156
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:04.920
<v Speaker 1>on military funding For, israel and he Supports palestinian. Statehood

1157
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:10.840
<v Speaker 1>so that was because he didn't say the word genocide Until.

1158
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>January And wiener said that he left the march because

1159
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 1>the hecklers quote were so physically and verbally aggressive that

1160
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it was impossible for me to safely remain in the.

1161
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Park what do you guys Think San francisco Being San

1162
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>francisco or is this a bigger? Deal, no this is

1163
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:26.119
<v Speaker 1>assholes being.

1164
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:29.519
<v Speaker 7>ASSHOLES i, mean, Like i'm fine with confronting collected officials heckling,

1165
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:31.199
<v Speaker 7>them saying, whatever but like he's in a public.

1166
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Space you can't tell this man to.

1167
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.840
<v Speaker 7>Leave and also they're so threatening there and they sound

1168
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 7>stupid saying your sexual orientation is predicated on your past

1169
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:42.239
<v Speaker 7>comments On gaza is just like SO i don't, Know

1170
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:44.760
<v Speaker 7>Scott Wiener i've never talked to the guy, like but he,

1171
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 7>is by any objective, measure an extremely Progressive democrat who

1172
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:51.880
<v Speaker 7>like he's probably a touch more moderate than the squad,

1173
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 7>say because of like housing. Issues the people filming this

1174
00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:00.159
<v Speaker 7>stuff ultimately make their movement look. Bad they Make wiener look,

1175
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.440
<v Speaker 7>sympathetic WHICH i assume is the opposite of what the intention.

1176
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 7>Was AND i think they also Hand Fox news And

1177
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 7>republicans a piece of content that they'll now use forever

1178
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.760
<v Speaker 7>to Make, democrats especially progressive, democrats look crazy and aggressive

1179
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 7>and so soup to. Nuts it was just a fucking,

1180
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.760
<v Speaker 7>terrible terrible way to conduct politics and to.

1181
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Treat another human.

1182
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Being. YEAH i think if you're following around an elected

1183
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 2>official who is pro, gay pro trans at a trans supporting,

1184
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 2>event and you are yelling at them and saying you're

1185
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 2>pressing queers because of your position On, israel even though

1186
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 2>your position On israel is that you Believe israel's committed

1187
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 2>a genocide In, gaza then what you're doing is being

1188
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>an Anti. Semite if you're Following Scott weener around yelling

1189
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:50.960
<v Speaker 2>at him in this, park it is because you are

1190
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 2>being Anti.

1191
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.480
<v Speaker 7>Semitic talking about His zionist handlers yelling you are an Anti,

1192
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 7>semite and, yeah.

1193
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 1>That that is what.

1194
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Is that is why you are yelling at this. Man

1195
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:06.199
<v Speaker 2>whatever you tell, yourself whatever story you tell yourself online

1196
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:07.480
<v Speaker 2>about what you believe, in why it's.

1197
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:08.599
<v Speaker 1>Justified that.

1198
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Is that is as pure Anti semitism as you can.

1199
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 2>See and uh it is, corrosive and uh it's worth calling.

1200
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Out there's a lot of people LIKE, i you, know

1201
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:24.679
<v Speaker 2>when when someone says that Brad lander In New york

1202
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.880
<v Speaker 2>ten one because of Anti semitism against, it or that

1203
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Anti semitism played a, ROLE i find that hard to

1204
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:34.000
<v Speaker 2>understand because it is a Very jewish. District Brad lander Is,

1205
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Jewish Dan goldman Was, Jewish but that doesn't mean That

1206
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:41.480
<v Speaker 2>SO i don't like it when Ani semitism is used

1207
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:43.559
<v Speaker 2>as a, Cudgel but that doesn't mean it isn't like

1208
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:45.760
<v Speaker 2>worth calling out when you see, it and, like give

1209
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:46.320
<v Speaker 2>me a fucking.

1210
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Break we live in a world where like every single

1211
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.360
<v Speaker 1>person with the phone has a megaphone now and can

1212
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:55.199
<v Speaker 1>do this kind of. Thing SO i don't, think you,

1213
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:58.599
<v Speaker 1>know talking about the people who Followed Scott winger and

1214
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>like they're not gonna listen to us or anyone, Right

1215
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna be able to ever stop people from

1216
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.960
<v Speaker 1>being assholes and holding up their. PHONE i do think

1217
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that it would behoove people on the, left and especially

1218
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:13.559
<v Speaker 1>people who have been marching and organizing in protests For

1219
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.159
<v Speaker 1>palastinian rights and have been right on this issue from

1220
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the beginning to call that out right because this is the,

1221
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.599
<v Speaker 1>like As tommy, said this is going to be the

1222
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:23.519
<v Speaker 1>clip that they use to show That democrats are crazy

1223
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:25.760
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of. Stuff and also it's just

1224
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it's good movement politics to be, like, yes we can

1225
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:30.840
<v Speaker 1>hold two ideas in our head at the same, time

1226
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that it is horrendous what The israeli government has, done

1227
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and that the most important issue is the fact That

1228
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:41.679
<v Speaker 1>palstinians are being slaughtered and now people In lebanon are being,

1229
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:45.119
<v Speaker 1>killed and that is the more important. Issue but also

1230
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it's still awful that this. Happened in our. Movement we

1231
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:50.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want that kind of thing and we don't believe

1232
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.679
<v Speaker 1>that like. THAT i think that's it's very possible to do, that,

1233
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:56.159
<v Speaker 1>yes and believing it just didn't see a lot of.

1234
00:56:56.159 --> 00:57:00.760
<v Speaker 2>It now and that under that have been more outraged

1235
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't justify treating people terribly and, like it's not obviously

1236
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:06.679
<v Speaker 2>these are just random. People you can't to a few

1237
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.280
<v Speaker 2>random people following someone. Around the whole movement can't be.

1238
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Held account for, it and it shouldn't.

1239
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Be, however, however it is more than just, that right

1240
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:18.000
<v Speaker 2>because you will see, people, uh defend Following Scott. Wiener

1241
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:22.280
<v Speaker 2>you'll see people defend a coffee shop that refuses to

1242
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Serve Dan.

1243
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Goldman you will.

1244
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.480
<v Speaker 2>See people and you will see people describe any figure

1245
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.800
<v Speaker 2>that criticizes following Around Scott wiener or criticizes what happened

1246
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:33.599
<v Speaker 2>To Dan goldman as civility politics or kind of or

1247
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:39.559
<v Speaker 2>or formative. Respectability, right and, look we've made fun, of you,

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<v Speaker 2>if but like, being if you want a movement to,

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<v Speaker 2>succeed it has to be something that is appealing and

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<v Speaker 2>and and generative and and and brings people in and

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<v Speaker 2>tries to persuade people and treats them in good. Faith

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<v Speaker 2>and that's obviously not what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Cricket Hey, williams welcome to Patsave.

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<v Speaker 10>America thank. You it's great to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Here so you hear state legislatures of the firewall Against

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<v Speaker 1>trump's staling an, election and it can sound to abstract to,

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<v Speaker 1>People so maybe you can help make it concrete if

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<v Speaker 1>we get a contested presidential results in twenty twenty, eight

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<v Speaker 1>which chambers are the ones standing between a close call

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<v Speaker 1>and a stolen? One where's the actual?

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<v Speaker 10>Fight oh that's such a good.

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<v Speaker 11>Question you, know in twenty twenty, six we have real

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<v Speaker 11>opportunities to create new majorities in our presidential bataground. States

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<v Speaker 11>so Thank, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona. Pennsylvania these are the

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<v Speaker 11>places that are going to have huge impacts obviously on

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<v Speaker 11>the twenty twenty eight presidential and these are places where

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<v Speaker 11>we can Women alreadson twenty twenty, six which will allow

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<v Speaker 11>us to move legislation as needed to shore up our

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<v Speaker 11>democracy laws in those states to ensure that we've got

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<v Speaker 11>a really strong presidential.

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<v Speaker 1>Process, yeah AND i think people don't maybe not everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>understands though probably more people after what happened in twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty just the power that state legislatures have over the electoral,

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<v Speaker 1>process over sending delegates of electors To. Congress maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can speak a little bit about.

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<v Speaker 10>That, yeah that's exactly.

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<v Speaker 11>Right the presidential certification process originates in our, states and

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<v Speaker 11>that alongside with our voting.

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<v Speaker 10>Laws with our election, administration all of that are state.

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<v Speaker 11>Actions and so the more democratic majorities we, have the

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<v Speaker 11>better our elections. Are certainly now in this, environment and

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<v Speaker 11>the opportunities that we have to build that power this

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<v Speaker 11>year will be sort of immediately put to, use right

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<v Speaker 11>to again ensure that people's votes are.

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<v Speaker 10>Counted they're counted in.

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<v Speaker 11>Real regardless of who, wins that the election is certified

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<v Speaker 11>and that person becomes.

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<v Speaker 1>President so potential election theft decide for someone who's not

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with their state legislature or what state legislatures even.

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<v Speaker 1>Do what's a concrete example of something that a democratic

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<v Speaker 1>run state legislature has done over the last few. Years it's,

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<v Speaker 1>actually you, know changed people's.

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<v Speaker 11>Lives, oh the one THAT i love to talk about

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<v Speaker 11>is meals for kids in, schools ensuring that every kid

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<v Speaker 11>has access to a female in. School this was something

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<v Speaker 11>that passed In minnesota when they had the, trifecta it

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<v Speaker 11>passed in a number of states. Sinds then it is

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<v Speaker 11>such a great way to think about how do we

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<v Speaker 11>nurture our kids in our, community how do we make

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<v Speaker 11>sure that our researchers are going into our.

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<v Speaker 10>Future and it also puts a little more money in people's.

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<v Speaker 1>Pockets so you mentioned some of the battleground States, Minnesota, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona what are this states Where democrats have the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities this? Year talk about sort of the map and

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<v Speaker 1>the target list for you.

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<v Speaker 11>Guys, Yeah so we think about the map of opportunities

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<v Speaker 11>in building power in the states and what that means

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<v Speaker 11>for us is that we are looking at everything from

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<v Speaker 11>how do we put democrats in the negotiating room by

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<v Speaker 11>breaking The republican power of a, supermajority to how do

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<v Speaker 11>we make sure that our democratic governors in states where

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<v Speaker 11>their legislature Is republican have the veto pen and how

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<v Speaker 11>do we of course create new majorities trifectas for the.

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<v Speaker 11>Future so those places that we can create these new,

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<v Speaker 11>majorities these new trifectas really are centered in those presidential battlegrounds, Again, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan.

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01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:46.719
<v Speaker 11>Arizona winning just nineteen seats in those states will build

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<v Speaker 11>six new majorities and four new. Trifectas it's, amazing, Right

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<v Speaker 11>and that's, seats and that's where the core fight is

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<v Speaker 11>going to. Be BUT i think it's important to also

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<v Speaker 11>mention right that thinking about how do we build power

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<v Speaker 11>for the long, term how do we start building Back,

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<v Speaker 11>democrats particularly in The, south where that break of A

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<v Speaker 11>republican supermajority Puts democrats in that negotiating. Room it gives

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<v Speaker 11>them a little more, Power it gives them more access to,

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<v Speaker 11>voters to, constituents and allows them to build back for

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<v Speaker 11>the future because we know post twenty thirty that the census,

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<v Speaker 11>comes reapportionment, happens and we've got congressional districts that are

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<v Speaker 11>growing in The.

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<v Speaker 1>South, Yeah so this is SOMETHING i think about all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, now is you have all the opportunities for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. Six there's so many states now Where republicans

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01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:39.719
<v Speaker 1>have taken power in a state legislature and then jerrymandered

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<v Speaker 1>the state legislature to such a degree that it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>impossible For democrats to make any. Ground AND i think

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<v Speaker 1>About wisconsin as an. EXAMPLE i remember When Ben wickler

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<v Speaker 1>was the party chair there and he would talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how it's just really difficult because you can elect a democratic,

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01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:59.719
<v Speaker 1>governor but they have gerrymandered the legislature so badly that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't and ultimately what Fixed wisconsin was State Supreme court.

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<v Speaker 1>Elections so in states Where republicans have jerrymandered the, legislature

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<v Speaker 1>what is the strategy there and how do we make

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<v Speaker 1>headway and some of those those those legislatures that are really.

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<v Speaker 11>Jerrymandered Your wisconsin example is, great, Right so we are

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<v Speaker 11>winning statewide or could win statewide In. Wisconsin we could

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<v Speaker 11>win at the congressional, level although not as much AS

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<v Speaker 11>i think what was possible, there, right but couldn't couldn't

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<v Speaker 11>flip those state. Legislatures you, KNOW i think the strategy

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<v Speaker 11>is sort of multi. Pronged, Right you can't divest in

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<v Speaker 11>the state legislative races because we do still have legislators,

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<v Speaker 11>there and those, legislators well maybe not in the, majority

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<v Speaker 11>do still have some power to band together to bring

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<v Speaker 11>some folks together on issues that matter a, lot, right

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<v Speaker 11>particularly when there's a democratic governor their assurance that he

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<v Speaker 11>has the veto pen has been really.

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<v Speaker 10>Important so we can't.

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<v Speaker 11>Walk away from the state legislatures just because it's. Hard

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<v Speaker 11>but alongside that In wisconsin is a great example where

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<v Speaker 11>The Supreme court mattered. Deeply you, know These Supreme court

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<v Speaker 11>races are sometimes, partisans sometimes, nonpartisan but we need to

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<v Speaker 11>make sure that we let voters know the values of

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<v Speaker 11>these candidates and that we are thinking about a court

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01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:22.719
<v Speaker 11>strategy alongside our electoral. Strategy and THEN i think the

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<v Speaker 11>third thing right in this varies by. State wisconsin is

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01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:27.559
<v Speaker 11>not a great example of, this but others are where

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<v Speaker 11>there's ballid initiative. Opportunities that is another. Way In, michigan

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<v Speaker 11>right we've got a people not politicians process that put

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<v Speaker 11>a nonpartisan commission In michigan that has incredibly competitive legislative

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<v Speaker 11>seats and, Chambers and those are sort of the three

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<v Speaker 11>anchor ways THAT i think that you really start to build.

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<v Speaker 1>Back one thing that surprised me IS i assumed one

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<v Speaker 1>Reason democrats have been at a disadvantage is Because republicans

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<v Speaker 1>outspent us on the state legislative. Level but in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>four The democratic side outspent THE. Rslc The republican counter

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<v Speaker 1>heart to you, guys roughly one hundred and seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>million to forty nine, million little better than three to,

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<v Speaker 1>one still lost The minnesota trifecta in The Michigan. House

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<v Speaker 1>so if beyond, money what are some of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>challenges that the party has faced at the state?

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<v Speaker 11>Level the attention, battle, right these races are you, know

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01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:26.400
<v Speaker 11>folks know these candidates. Less they're often first time, candidates,

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<v Speaker 11>Right they're running for the first. Time their NAME id

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<v Speaker 11>is not, great they don't have a record right to run,

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<v Speaker 11>on and that attention fight is really. Important AND i

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<v Speaker 11>think the thing when you couple the attention with the

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<v Speaker 11>money and you think about these battleground, states we have

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<v Speaker 11>competitive races up the whole.

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<v Speaker 10>Ballot so when you.

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<v Speaker 11>Think about a low NAME id candidate that's running for

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<v Speaker 11>state legislature but has a great story to, tell competing

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<v Speaker 11>for people's timed and brain space in the election season

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<v Speaker 11>is really. Hard SO i, think you, know as much

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<v Speaker 11>as we can run as, tickets as much as we

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<v Speaker 11>can support in coordinated campaigns and other statewide, efforts what

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<v Speaker 11>is happening at our local.

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<v Speaker 10>Races it's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Important that's also going to be an issue of sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the hollowing out of local news and the disapparancy

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<v Speaker 1>of local, news because if you're reading about politics, now

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01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you're reading about national, politics and if you're reading about national,

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01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:26.079
<v Speaker 1>politics you're reading about presidential, level maybe congressional, level but

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<v Speaker 1>probably not much about your state.

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<v Speaker 10>State that is exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>RIGHT i imagine that in that, situation the ground game

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<v Speaker 1>field probably has to be even more critical than even

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the media.

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<v Speaker 11>Strategy, yes the direct voter contact by the candidates is

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<v Speaker 11>the most important thing that these races. Do these, candidates you,

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<v Speaker 11>know these districts are small enough in most cases where

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<v Speaker 11>the candidate can knock the door of every voter in their.

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<v Speaker 11>District they still live in their, districts so they're going

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<v Speaker 11>to the grocery store and drop off and the library

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<v Speaker 11>and you, know everywhere else alongside voters and, constituents and

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<v Speaker 11>they are sort of never off. Duty and that means

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<v Speaker 11>that their muscle of communicating and talking about the things

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<v Speaker 11>they care, about what they believe, in why they're running for,

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01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.680
<v Speaker 11>office what's happening, nationally and how they put it in

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<v Speaker 11>their own, words that's happening all the, time and they're

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<v Speaker 11>building that.

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<v Speaker 10>MUSCLE i think we call it.

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<v Speaker 11>Now they're authentic, communicators but truly like they're just normal

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01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:27.880
<v Speaker 11>people who are having conversations with their.

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<v Speaker 1>Neighbors so the recruitment numbers are really. Impressive In. MINNESOTA

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<v Speaker 1>i think he has a fill to every. District kansas

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<v Speaker 1>has the biggest late in thirty. Years QUESTION i, had

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<v Speaker 1>how does the recruiting pitch go for a candidate who

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<v Speaker 1>lives in a district Where republicans routinely win by twenty

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty, Points because that is a getting people's run

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<v Speaker 1>for office in the first place. Difficult getting people to

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01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:54.800
<v Speaker 1>run for office in a place where the climb is very.

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<v Speaker 1>STEEP i imagine that's even harder it.

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<v Speaker 11>Is you, know this is the thing THAT i was

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01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:01.960
<v Speaker 11>most us about this, cycle, was you, know coming out

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01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.880
<v Speaker 11>of twenty twenty, four starting this year, off how are

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01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:08.880
<v Speaker 11>we going to get people to run for? Office and

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<v Speaker 11>then of course we had the horrific assassination Of Speaker

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01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:16.960
<v Speaker 11>cortman In, minnesota another reminder ride of how difficult.

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<v Speaker 10>It is to run for.

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01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:20.520
<v Speaker 11>Office it didn't come, true like people were really excited

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01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:23.520
<v Speaker 11>to run for, office AND i, think you, know we

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01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:26.960
<v Speaker 11>work hard to make sure that candidates across the country have.

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<v Speaker 10>Some level of tools and sort of toolkits right to

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01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:31.520
<v Speaker 10>run for.

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<v Speaker 11>Office BUT i think what we've seen is our ability

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01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:37.800
<v Speaker 11>at this bout level to connect with voters and all

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01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:40.600
<v Speaker 11>kinds of communities this year and win. Elections we've already

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<v Speaker 11>flipped thirty, seats some of these have been in ruby red.

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<v Speaker 11>Districts is a reminder that if we don't show, up

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01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:49.840
<v Speaker 11>if someone doesn't show, up we can't even, compete let alone.

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<v Speaker 11>Win and this really feels like a year where you,

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01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:57.479
<v Speaker 11>know people are seeing that one way to change the

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01:09:57.520 --> 01:09:59.840
<v Speaker 11>direction of the country is to change the people In

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01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:02.800
<v Speaker 11>and you've got two options in that you vote or

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01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:06.640
<v Speaker 11>you run for, office and we are seeing that all

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<v Speaker 11>Over it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible i'm sure there's an incredible diversity of candidates that you've,

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01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:16.520
<v Speaker 1>recruited but is there any sort of demographic group or

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01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.680
<v Speaker 1>type of candidate or profession that keeps showing up more

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01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:22.079
<v Speaker 1>this cycle compared to other.

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<v Speaker 11>Cycles you, know it's interesting that you asked this question

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01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:28.680
<v Speaker 11>in part because you, know our candidates tend to be middle.

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01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:32.119
<v Speaker 11>Class they tend to, be LIKE i, said first time.

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01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 11>Candidates they tend to be maybe. Not you're sort of

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01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:40.199
<v Speaker 11>made FOR tv sort of, politician and that is what

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01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:42.920
<v Speaker 11>is so great about this bout. Level it's what's great

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01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.039
<v Speaker 11>about our state legislators is you've got real people trying

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01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:49.079
<v Speaker 11>to solve real. PROBLEMS i feel like there is a

1492
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:53.720
<v Speaker 11>stronger spotlight on, that and you're noticing it. More it

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01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 11>feels just different than what you stereotypically have seen in

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<v Speaker 11>sort of national.

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01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Politics student council, president, yes lawyers, right lawyer, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Exactly AND i think that the value of these candidates

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01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:15.000
<v Speaker 11>is their ability to, say you, KNOW i GET i

1498
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:18.920
<v Speaker 11>get what you're dealing. With here's my story and How

1499
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:22.640
<v Speaker 11>i'm dealing with it and how it's challenging for. Me

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<v Speaker 11>this is my own personal antidote of what is happening.

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01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:27.560
<v Speaker 11>Here BUT i get, IT i hear, you and, like

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01:11:28.319 --> 01:11:30.680
<v Speaker 11>we may have slightly different views of how this can come,

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01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.680
<v Speaker 11>together but we can talk about. It AND i, think you,

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01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:36.479
<v Speaker 11>know that is really what we're seeing in these.

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01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:37.119
<v Speaker 10>Candidates it's.

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01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Great, obviously the democratic parties are national favorability rating is

1507
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:47.760
<v Speaker 1>in the, basement and yet state legislative democrats routinely run

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01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:51.479
<v Speaker 1>ahead of the of the national party. Brand what are

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01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:54.079
<v Speaker 1>your candidates doing that the national party can't seem to.

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01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:59.439
<v Speaker 11>Do these candidates are community, organizing. Right they are still

1511
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 11>talking about the thing that's happening in your. Backyard and you,

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01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:05.920
<v Speaker 11>know if you talk to someone who has been in

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01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:08.800
<v Speaker 11>office in the state, legislature you will hear them say

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01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:11.359
<v Speaker 11>like they are problem solvers on behalf of their. Community

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01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 11>they are connecting constituents with federal agencies that are solving their.

1516
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.600
<v Speaker 11>Problem they're trying to get their trash can that you,

1517
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:20.479
<v Speaker 11>know had gone missing and they hadn't been able to

1518
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:24.319
<v Speaker 11>get it. Back they are able to take these big.

1519
01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:26.479
<v Speaker 11>POLICIES i like to use The Infrastructure bill as an

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01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:29.880
<v Speaker 11>example and break it down into community. Impact you, know

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01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.159
<v Speaker 11>the Infrastructure, bill what does it mean for our? Community

1522
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:33.920
<v Speaker 11>it means that this road is going to be fixed

1523
01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:35.600
<v Speaker 11>in twenty, minutes is going to be cut off your commute.

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01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:37.840
<v Speaker 11>Time you're going to have forty minutes a day back

1525
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.119
<v Speaker 11>in your life to do whatever it is that you

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01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:43.600
<v Speaker 11>want to. Do that ability to really localize the national

1527
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:48.239
<v Speaker 11>issues is really the art form of this boot. Level

1528
01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:50.720
<v Speaker 11>everything is about your. Neighbor and as much as we

1529
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:53.640
<v Speaker 11>are a country, divided people still care a lot about

1530
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:55.079
<v Speaker 11>their communities and their.

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01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:57.800
<v Speaker 10>Neighbors and that is what separates.

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01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Things for a person listening right now who's surrounded by

1533
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.319
<v Speaker 1>trumpy neighbors and is Sure democrats have no shot where they.

1534
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Live what do you say to that, person what should they?

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01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.760
<v Speaker 10>Do get involved in your state legislative? Race?

1536
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:14.359
<v Speaker 11>Seriously like it, is it, Will it will broaden what you,

1537
01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:17.560
<v Speaker 11>think it'll broaden your view of your, neighbors, right but

1538
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:18.279
<v Speaker 11>it will also.

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01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:19.800
<v Speaker 10>Give you that opportunity to have those.

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<v Speaker 11>Conversations you, know these legislative candidates are surrounded by friends

1541
01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:30.119
<v Speaker 11>and family who are volunteering and talking to voters on their,

1542
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:32.399
<v Speaker 11>behalf persuading them all the way to the end of the.

1543
01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:36.760
<v Speaker 11>Election and it is in conversation that we move the needle.

1544
01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:40.199
<v Speaker 11>Together you, know even those of us that are are far,

1545
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:43.680
<v Speaker 11>apart maybe not maybe not on the super mega end of,

1546
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:46.840
<v Speaker 11>things but on the disillusion To republican that no longer

1547
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:50.479
<v Speaker 11>feels like they have a place In Trump's Republican. Party,

1548
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:53.560
<v Speaker 11>like there's a real opportunity to dialogue and have that

1549
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:58.680
<v Speaker 11>conversation and find some level of common ground and honestly

1550
01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:01.039
<v Speaker 11>just listen and hold space for. People and that is

1551
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:02.640
<v Speaker 11>that is what is being craved.

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01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Everywhere last, Question, yeah give us the state legislative. Chamber

1553
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:10.359
<v Speaker 1>people aren't paying enough attention to that you'll be watching

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01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:13.800
<v Speaker 1>on election night and and what it'll tell us if

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01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:14.239
<v Speaker 1>it goes our?

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<v Speaker 10>Way oh, Man.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay So i'm going to take this in two. Ways,

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<v Speaker 11>one the one THAT i care most about Is. MINNESOTA

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01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:26.760
<v Speaker 11>i just it's my home. State AS i hasn't been a,

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01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:29.800
<v Speaker 11>Lot we've been through a lot. There we JUST i

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01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:31.560
<v Speaker 11>really want to get that one. Back so that's my

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01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:34.600
<v Speaker 11>personal take on. IT i, think you, know if we

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01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:38.960
<v Speaker 11>are having just an incredible like, year there's real things

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<v Speaker 11>happening In.

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<v Speaker 10>Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>YEAH i Saw arizona in the list AND i was,

1567
01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:44.279
<v Speaker 1>like oh, Wow, yeah how do we go From arizona

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01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:47.960
<v Speaker 1>being so read to now Two democratic, Senators Katie hobbs's

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01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.079
<v Speaker 1>governor AND i guess the legislature is up.

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<v Speaker 10>For grabs to, them it very much.

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<v Speaker 11>Is and you, KNOW i think this is A this

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01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:56.880
<v Speaker 11>starts to tell us right, that like big things are.

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01:14:56.960 --> 01:15:00.199
<v Speaker 11>Happening but you, know we're in an environment right now

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01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.399
<v Speaker 11>where if the election was held, TODAY i think we've

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01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:05.680
<v Speaker 11>got roughly a plus four environment that we're seeing at

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01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:06.319
<v Speaker 11>our bout.

1577
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:09.079
<v Speaker 10>Level that means that we could flip as many as

1578
01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:12.840
<v Speaker 10>six hundred plus. Seats there is a lot in, play

1579
01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:14.279
<v Speaker 10>and these races are often run on the.

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01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.399
<v Speaker 11>Margins so we've got this big spreadsheet as everyone does

1581
01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:19.680
<v Speaker 11>an election night that we watch and it.

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<v Speaker 10>Is it's going to be.

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01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Exciting Heather, williams thanks for Joining Pod Save america and

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01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:25.279
<v Speaker 1>good luck out.

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01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:25.760
<v Speaker 10>There thank.

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01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:34.760
<v Speaker 1>You that's our show for. Today thanks To Heather williams

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01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:36.199
<v Speaker 1>for coming. On dan AND i will be back with

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<v Speaker 1>a new show On. Friday Podsave america is A Crooked media.

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<v Speaker 1>Production our show is produced By Austin, Fisher Saul, ruben McKenna,

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01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:45.079
<v Speaker 1>roberts And Faris safari With Ree, Jerlin Elijah cone And Adrian.

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01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Hill our team Includes matt De, Grote Ben, Hefcote Jordan, Cantor,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlottelandis carol Pel, Avive David, Toles Mia, Kelman Ryan, young

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<v Speaker 1>And Naomi. Single our staff is probably unionized with The

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