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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>Am six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Monks is joining us from KFI News a special

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<v Speaker 2>presentation coming up tomorrow night about our LA fires. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for coming on, Yeah, good morning to you. What kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff are we going to hear from? What kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff are we going to hear tomorrow night? During

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<v Speaker 2>the special, Yeah, we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna basically do an exploration of what happened and what

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<v Speaker 3>happens now. So it's a little bit of a reflection

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<v Speaker 3>on the situation as it unfolded. We'll have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the news coverage just as a reminder of just

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<v Speaker 3>how intense it was. It feels like it was longer

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<v Speaker 3>ago when it started than it really was. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>the pace of time is a little off, but we'll

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<v Speaker 3>hit that really hard, and we'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Also talk to some folks who lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything in this fire, and then we'll talk to some

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<v Speaker 3>government officials about how we move forward. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>key pieces to this though, was learning how this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to impact us all. Obviously, it's taken a toll

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<v Speaker 3>on us all emotionally, as Angelino's. But it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>hit all of our pocketbooks in various ways.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Study out of UCLA that examines this, and I talked

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<v Speaker 3>to one of the researchers about how that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>impact us, whether it's the cost of housing that's expected

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<v Speaker 3>to go up or your homeowner's insurance. You know, being

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<v Speaker 3>a homeowner in California and the insurance that you have,

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<v Speaker 3>this event may trigger an increase that you're going to pay.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is going to have far reaching ramifications. We

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<v Speaker 3>talked a bit about that too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>You did a lot of work on this, Michael, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of getting the story from all angles. Like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>you talked to people who lost everything. You also talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the people who were kind of the civic face

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<v Speaker 1>of these disasters, and Lindsay Horrovath, you talk to the

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<v Speaker 1>people that helped out that continue to help out with

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<v Speaker 1>the Dream Center. I mean, you really took a three

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<v Speaker 1>sixty view of everything that went into this and the

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<v Speaker 1>people that were major players in this in real time exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we wanted to do with something all encompassing.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have the story yet on how it started,

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<v Speaker 3>why it started, that's going to come later. We are

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<v Speaker 3>obviously still working this story every single day, and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be looking for that. This is a look at where

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<v Speaker 3>are we right this moment, Where did we come from,

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<v Speaker 3>and where are we right now. One of the interesting

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<v Speaker 3>components that I found in the interviews I talked to

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<v Speaker 3>two individuals, one that lost a house in Altadena and

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<v Speaker 3>one that lost a house in the Palisades, and what

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<v Speaker 3>struck me was how similar their stories are. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>these two fires that claimed both those areas were thirty

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<v Speaker 3>miles apart, right, and these communities are both lovely, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're also quite different, the Palisades being that quintessential California vision,

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<v Speaker 3>that postcard image, and Altadina being sort of a small

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<v Speaker 3>town in the middle of Los Angeles with churches on

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<v Speaker 3>the corner and little old school business districts. But both

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<v Speaker 3>of them were incredibly optimistic up into the last moment

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<v Speaker 3>of the fires, for example, that, oh, we get these warnings,

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<v Speaker 3>this happens, we've seen fires before, even but it's not

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<v Speaker 4>It's not coming for us. And then it did.

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<v Speaker 3>And both waited until the very end, also thinking that

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<v Speaker 3>even as they were fleeing the flames that are house

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<v Speaker 3>will still be there it wasn't. And then there are

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<v Speaker 3>incredible similarities to the reaction afterward. Obviously devastation, but what

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<v Speaker 3>is the government doing exactly? There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>questions about what the rebuild and the recovery is going

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<v Speaker 3>to look like. So in spite of what we hear

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<v Speaker 3>at these press conferences in the flowery language and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that, the folks who are dealing with FEMA, who

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<v Speaker 3>are dealing with their insurance agents, the folks who will

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<v Speaker 3>be dealing with permitting, they are calling it a serious

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<v Speaker 3>red tape blockage.

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<v Speaker 1>There seems to be something going around, not just at

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<v Speaker 1>a local level, regional, national of the government should be

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<v Speaker 1>doing X, Y or z, and it's not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>The government's supposed to be there to like we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in the past, you know, water, roads, fire, police,

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<v Speaker 1>right like, these basic things that the government is set

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<v Speaker 1>up to do. And you can take this on any

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, on any level you want to, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not doing those main things. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the reason why, you know, the incoming in

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<v Speaker 1>administration is so fed up with the federal government and

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<v Speaker 1>the bloat, because why aren't you just doing the basic things. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>you've built yourselves up to be these big things and

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<v Speaker 1>you're tackling all of these things and you're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>the very basic things. And I think that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a frustration locally with these fires that shine like a

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<v Speaker 1>light on that that hey, once you drilled down into

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<v Speaker 1>the hole, well there wasn't enough water in the Palisades,

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<v Speaker 1>and you drilled down, and we had fire officials on

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<v Speaker 1>that said, hey, listen, we just ran out. There was

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<v Speaker 1>water there, but the demand was so much at that

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<v Speaker 1>period in time we ran out. The message that the

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<v Speaker 1>government is giving to the people is not coming through.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people are not hearing the government talk to them

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, hey, we just ran out. Yes, those reservoirs

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<v Speaker 1>should have been up and running, and we'll make sure

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<v Speaker 1>to do that in the future. But they're not communicating.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think some of that frustration is the divide

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<v Speaker 1>between La City Hall and these politicians that have their

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<v Speaker 1>heads in the sand and how to talk to real

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<v Speaker 1>people and in terms of delivering that message.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked to Lindsay Horvath a bit about that, like

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<v Speaker 3>the broken trust now that a lot of people feel,

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<v Speaker 3>and how can you rebuild that so we do explore

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<v Speaker 3>that topic directly. And one of the folks who lost

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<v Speaker 3>their homes in the Palisades told me for the purpose

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<v Speaker 3>of this special that what we saw was a lack

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<v Speaker 3>of fight. Even in the firefighting at the early elements.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that they could not do aerial fight because

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<v Speaker 3>of the severity of the winds. Yeah, but they were

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<v Speaker 3>watching houses.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like a sense of urgency was missing.

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<v Speaker 3>And there may be an explanation for that, but it

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<v Speaker 3>has not been conveyed well enough to folks. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>can you imagine running up to a firefighter and saying,

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<v Speaker 3>my house is on fire right now, and they say,

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing we can do. We don't have any water,

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing that we can do, and the explanations have

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<v Speaker 3>not been thorough enough yet. We've been promised a thorough

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<v Speaker 3>review once all of this dust settles. We don't know

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<v Speaker 3>when that is because we've not only had the fires,

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<v Speaker 3>we even had just today and yesterday the threat of

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<v Speaker 3>the mudslides in these areas. So there's still the sense

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<v Speaker 3>of urgency of addressing the catastrophe before they can get

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<v Speaker 3>into any serious review. I've talked about this before. I

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<v Speaker 3>think to your point, Shannon, LA. Government, City and county

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<v Speaker 3>government in particular, have done a lot to make themselves

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<v Speaker 3>seem important for a lot of different reasons that go

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<v Speaker 3>beyond those basic services that you noted, homelessness being a

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<v Speaker 3>great example of that, and the amount of money that

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<v Speaker 3>is spent on homelessness. And then those of us who

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<v Speaker 3>live in the streets are not necessarily in the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the homeless people live in the streets, but

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<v Speaker 3>those of us who are walking, well, I live downtown,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, and I walk to those meetings sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>and I think when I watch some of the conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, do you know how many piles of human

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<v Speaker 3>feces I walked over to get to this building today?

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<v Speaker 3>So do you mind if I clean my shoes while

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<v Speaker 3>you do your land acknowledgment? Because we're not seeing the

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<v Speaker 3>results that this high amount of money is supposedly delivering.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think this fire is going to cause a

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<v Speaker 3>shift not just from the people who are paying attention

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more, but perhaps internally. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>waiting to see. And you're already starting to see a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of differences emerging from the elected officials as

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<v Speaker 3>they get into more intense conversations with one another.

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<v Speaker 4>Will their priorities be shifted.

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<v Speaker 1>About a way? This, right, Michael Monks is an estellar

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<v Speaker 1>job of keeping his eye on the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>do not we are easily distracted people, and we cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be because that's what happens. That's how government takes advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of of of all of a sheep. And Michael does

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<v Speaker 1>a really good job of finding out what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in at city Hall and Border County County Board of

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<v Speaker 1>Supervisors and all of that for us. So we really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that you're doing a great job. Michael.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks talk to again La Fires and Path Forward Airs

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night seven to nine. You're gonna hear it to

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<v Speaker 2>get on Sunday afternoon as well. Thanks man, Now giving

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<v Speaker 2>you see delightful? He smells good. Do you see see

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<v Speaker 2>how much better it smells.

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<v Speaker 1>In here with him?

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<v Speaker 4>It's the sweat sweat, that's your sweat. Lose an essence

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<v Speaker 4>of greatness. Wow, that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, did you hear about the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that was swallowed by the whale?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? He said, I thought I was gonna die? He

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<v Speaker 4>was inside the whale, yes for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had the thought when he was inside the whale.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how am I going to get out of here?

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I go back out the front door.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you think if you were swallowed by a whale?

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't think anything. I wouldn't be swallowed by a whale.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, oh my god, I was just swallowed

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<v Speaker 1>by a whale.

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Like is this real life? By in this whale?

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<v Speaker 2>We told you the story this week about right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy?

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<v Speaker 4>About why are you ignoring? Ryan?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Honery is a multi award winning teenage inventor and

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<v Speaker 2>entrepreneur actively putting his passion for people and environment into

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<v Speaker 2>action for years, and that I'm reading straight from his website.

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan, thanks for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the story about the guy getting swallowed

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<v Speaker 2>by the whale?

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<v Speaker 6>I think I saw it on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually I guarante you saw it on TikTok So.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan, you are quite accomplished, do you hear that? All

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<v Speaker 1>the time?

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<v Speaker 4>Is thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>The technology that you were able to come up with,

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<v Speaker 1>is that because of where you grew up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up in Orange County. You probably no stranger

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<v Speaker 1>to wildfires being in the news your whole life. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that something where you saw a need and wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>fill the gap there?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So basically how the whole thing started was so

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<v Speaker 6>I played competitive tennis, and a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was like five six years ago, I

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<v Speaker 6>was in Arizona in November of twenty eighteen, and I

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<v Speaker 6>was actually there for a tennis tournament, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>But the company that you have founded, Sensory AI, not

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<v Speaker 2>Conservancy has rewarded you a grant to do this. Give

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<v Speaker 2>of how the sensors will detect wildfires super early so

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<v Speaker 1>What do you like doing when you're not creating new

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<v Speaker 6>I think my most favorite hobbies would be surfing and snowboarding,

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<v Speaker 6>but definitely surfing the most. Because I live like literally

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<v Speaker 4>Nice, nice, enjoy the tasty waves. Right. Yeah, well that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to keep an eye on the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing because this is not the end for you. Clearly, great,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, thanks for taking time for us. How come

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<v Speaker 1>School where we're going there is no school, So.

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<v Speaker 6>which is basically Stanford University. They have a high school.

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<v Speaker 6>the plan is that I do my Stanford courses in

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<v Speaker 6>So today I have to be at school. I have

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<v Speaker 6>to leave for school at eleven twenty five, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Gary asked that question because he hates himself and he

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<v Speaker 1>hates me and every other person who do nothing when

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<v Speaker 1>they were sixteen, Ryan, thank you so much. It was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great pleasure to talk to you. And

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<v Speaker 1>good luck in the future. You're you're gonna be fun

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>You bet Ryan, you too, Ryan Honery. Okay, well, why'd

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<v Speaker 1>Now we feel stupid. Now we're just sitting here and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that he put Stanford on hold for us

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<v Speaker 2>this morning. Yeah, just hold on second, Stanford. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>Can't get over a being swallowed by a whale.

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<v Speaker 2>We still have astronauts that are stuck in the International.

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<v Speaker 1>Space Station down. They thought they were going to be

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<v Speaker 1>sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 4>Was gravity is really really tough. It was delightful. They

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<v Speaker 2>They describe the uh, they describe what they are expecting

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<v Speaker 2>when they come home, and Butch Wilmore actually laid out

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<v Speaker 2>interview and how they have been dealing with the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they've been abandoned, although they've not been abandoned, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that it was not what they were planning.

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<v Speaker 2>They were planning the what was it, the eight day

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, we'll be talking about the whale swallowing

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<v Speaker 1>the kayaker. I just watched the video. It looks so peaceful,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it, the way the whale just swallows them. One

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<v Speaker 4>They never hear you scream when you get swallowed by a.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, very peaceful, serene waters, beautiful day to kayak.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was like, thankfully he didn't have enough time

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<v Speaker 4>And make him sneeze like Pinocchio did.

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<v Speaker 1>His friend is caught on camera or his dad sounding fine,

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<v Speaker 1>just pretty matter of fact fine, Like when you hear

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, ladies. And Joel is captain speeding and you figure

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<v Speaker 1>They're so calm. This guy was just as calm watching

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<v Speaker 2>You said the other day that you've spent eight bucks

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<v Speaker 2>on eggs. Eight bucks on a dozen eggs, about seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven bucks on a dozen eggs.

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<v Speaker 4>Why a correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just feel bad. Eight sounds like a bridge

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<v Speaker 1>too far.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd never spend that much.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a new market that is opening up for

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<v Speaker 2>people who want to, you know, have their own supply

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<v Speaker 2>of eggs. A guy in Pennsylvania has a business that's

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<v Speaker 2>called Rent the Chicken. Rent the Chicken. Sorry, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>Jen she co founded the business with her husband Phil.

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<v Speaker 2>What they say is they will partner with affiliate farmers

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<v Speaker 2>your yard. The rental cost varies, but it can start

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<v Speaker 2>at about five hundred bucks for a six month contract

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<v Speaker 2>that will include two egg laying hens. They are ready

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<v Speaker 2>to lay eggs within two days arrival, because usually you

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<v Speaker 2>got a wait a year. Two hens. They say, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you about a dozen eggs a week. That's about

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, listen, I'll pay for this if we can use

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<v Speaker 4>Why mine?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you have a backyard. I do not, and we

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<v Speaker 1>need eggs and chickens.

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<v Speaker 2>I have fewer predatory animals that would eat the I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we'd have coyotes, though, I think coyotes would come in, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll put them in a chicken coop.

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<v Speaker 2>The rental cost includes the portable coop. See it includes

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say experts. If you have questions, you didn't say no. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I love fresh eggs, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's text the wife and see if we can get

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<v Speaker 4>You have her number as well.

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<v Speaker 2>There are yeah, but I don't have sex with her, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't ask dumb questions of my wife.

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<v Speaker 4>I try not to.

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<v Speaker 2>There are also packages to get four egg laying hens

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<v Speaker 4>It just struck me what you said.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ruining the day for so many reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody needs to prevent you from stings.

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<v Speaker 1>Caffeine suffee, I know that, I apologize.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest story of the day I saw it on

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok the kayaker getting swallowed by the whale.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll talk about that we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>And how many other times in history have people been

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<v Speaker 2>swallowed by whales and spit back out?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's a thing Jonah in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Pinocchio saved his dad when monstro the sperm whip

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<v Speaker 2>Moby Dick.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I don't know if he ever ate anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, but he was a whale. Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Also great, Yes, he was a whale. And Shamoo, Shamoo

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<v Speaker 4>was a whale. Free Willy Willy was a whale.

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<v Speaker 1>The first Shamou was a female orca captured in what year?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say, sixty four, sixty five?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a dummy. Here's that look again. There's that

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<v Speaker 2>look again. You say something and you're like Addie is

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<v Speaker 2>a baba. How do you even possibly know that that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a human thing for us to think

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<v Speaker 1>that is a reflex that we have, Like, wow, you

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<v Speaker 1>knew that. I would not have guessed nineteen sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>or four. I mean know exactly do you know when

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<v Speaker 1>the first Shamood died? You have that year pulled up

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight, seventy one. Oh well, and you don't know everything,

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<v Speaker 1>do you?

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<v Speaker 4>Bub bub.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a video that's been going around about a

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<v Speaker 4>What was that and spitting them right back the whole kayak.

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<v Speaker 1>The kayak, the kayaker, the whole kayak is just swallowed.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the most appeared.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a peaceful video. The kayaker is there. The waves,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not silk. They're a little choppy, but not too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just shot at like water level, like another

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<v Speaker 1>kayaker is maybe six yards away from this kayaker, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whale just comes up and silently swallows the entire

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<v Speaker 1>thing and then spits them back out quietly. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>even see it, and he just bobs up above the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Adrian Simonkis was kayaking with his father Dell, near the

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<v Speaker 2>Sandy Seagra Lighthouse and the Strait of Magel and when

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<v Speaker 2>a humpback whale surfaced, it engulfed Adrian and his yellow

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<v Speaker 2>kayak before for a few seconds. Dell, the dad, captures

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing on video while very calmly encouraging his

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<v Speaker 2>son to stay just as calm, Adrian said, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was dead. I thought it had eaten me, that

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<v Speaker 2>it had swallowed me. He was afraid that the huge

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<v Speaker 2>animal was gonna then hurt his father, or that he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to die out there in the cold water.

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<v Speaker 2>Dell remained focused, literally filming and reassuring his son while

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what was about to happen to

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<v Speaker 2>the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>So the camera, I will say, this is mounted on

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<v Speaker 1>the dad's kayak, so he's not holding it. It just

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<v Speaker 1>so happens that it is mounted on their in case

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<v Speaker 1>they I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>See a whale out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess probably doing some whale watching, but that did

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<v Speaker 1>trouble me that the dad was still filming, like what

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? But that's not the case. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a mounted phone or camera.

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<v Speaker 2>In Jonah two to one, we hear the story big.

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<v Speaker 2>Biblical scholars have suggested the size and the habits of

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<v Speaker 2>a great white shark correspond better to the representations of

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to Jonah. Normally, an adult human would be

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<v Speaker 2>too large to be swallowed whole.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not physically possible for a whale to swallow a human.

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<v Speaker 1>They can put you in their mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>But not but they're not. That's where it ends. Geppetto

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<v Speaker 2>got stuck in Monstro. He was a giant sperm whale.

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<v Speaker 2>And Pinocchio had the idea to start a fire to

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<v Speaker 2>make them sneeze.

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<v Speaker 4>If you chair, look the.

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<v Speaker 7>Chair, we'll make them.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they get on the little boat and the

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<v Speaker 2>monstro sneezes.

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<v Speaker 1>And they didn't that sound painful for that whale in

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<v Speaker 1>that story.

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<v Speaker 2>That he had a fire in his belly, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>the wood and the wood well, I mean they had

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<v Speaker 2>he had an entire ship in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember he got swallowed. It was a very big whale.

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<v Speaker 1>So whales, they say have huge mouths, but a whale's

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<v Speaker 1>throat is a lot smaller than you would expect, essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the size of a human fist.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So if you get hey, this is a good story,

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<v Speaker 1>this is news you can use, folks. You get eaten

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<v Speaker 1>by a whale, you ain't going anywhere. You're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hang out there until he's done. I still would feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that uncomfortable place. It would be uncomfortable, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be eaten. I guess, well, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be swallowed, right, I guess you could be chomp, chomp, chomped.

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<v Speaker 2>Be not all of those whales, like a humpback whale

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't eat. What kind of tea theory working with? I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's one of those what do they call the

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<v Speaker 2>screen where they filter through and get the plankton and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff bleen?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what it's called? Yes, I believe it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a humpback whale in fact eats that way.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like how do you spell baileen?

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<v Speaker 7>Be?

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<v Speaker 4>Still has no substance, no substance, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>I think probably the tone shaped see it is a

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<v Speaker 4>bileen whale.

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<v Speaker 1>Cone shaped teeth whales.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I just don't know. We've lost it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back and we'll do some swamp watch and

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<v Speaker 2>then the Abandoned Astronauts they say they're not abandoned, and

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<v Speaker 2>in fact they have some plans and they have some

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<v Speaker 2>really great senses of humor. And we'll talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>interview that they did, which was very pleasant actually to

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<v Speaker 2>watch last night. Yeah, and if you use any part

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<v Speaker 2>of this absolutely substanceless show, you can always go back

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<v Speaker 2>and listen to the podcast. Anywhere you find your favorite podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>just type in Gary and Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so what's the difference between balleen and.

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<v Speaker 2>Teeth that I don't I can't describe it quickly. But

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<v Speaker 2>teeth are for teeth, teeth are for chewing stuff up.

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<v Speaker 2>Billan is just like a filter that catches all of

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<v Speaker 2>the little plankton and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a filter, Like it looks like an air filter. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now I see what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more likely just back whale goes fascinating that in

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<v Speaker 2>my mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that fascinating?

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<v Speaker 4>No, you've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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