Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: Am six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2: Michael Monks is joining us from KFI News a special
Speaker 2: presentation coming up tomorrow night about our LA fires. Thanks
Speaker 2: for coming on, Yeah, good morning to you. What kind
Speaker 2: of stuff are we going to hear from? What kind
Speaker 2: of stuff are we going to hear tomorrow night? During
Speaker 2: the special, Yeah, we're.
Speaker 3: Gonna basically do an exploration of what happened and what
Speaker 3: happens now. So it's a little bit of a reflection
Speaker 3: on the situation as it unfolded. We'll have a lot
Speaker 3: of the news coverage just as a reminder of just
Speaker 3: how intense it was. It feels like it was longer
Speaker 3: ago when it started than it really was. I guess
Speaker 3: the pace of time is a little off, but we'll
Speaker 3: hit that really hard, and we'll.
Speaker 4: Also talk to some folks who lost.
Speaker 3: Everything in this fire, and then we'll talk to some
Speaker 3: government officials about how we move forward. One of the
Speaker 3: key pieces to this though, was learning how this is
Speaker 3: going to impact us all. Obviously, it's taken a toll
Speaker 3: on us all emotionally, as Angelino's. But it's going to
Speaker 3: hit all of our pocketbooks in various ways.
Speaker 4: And there's a.
Speaker 3: Study out of UCLA that examines this, and I talked
Speaker 3: to one of the researchers about how that's going to
Speaker 3: impact us, whether it's the cost of housing that's expected
Speaker 3: to go up or your homeowner's insurance. You know, being
Speaker 3: a homeowner in California and the insurance that you have,
Speaker 3: this event may trigger an increase that you're going to pay.
Speaker 3: So this is going to have far reaching ramifications. We
Speaker 3: talked a bit about that too.
Speaker 5: Yea.
Speaker 1: You did a lot of work on this, Michael, in
Speaker 1: terms of getting the story from all angles. Like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you talked to people who lost everything. You also talked
Speaker 1: about the people who were kind of the civic face
Speaker 1: of these disasters, and Lindsay Horrovath, you talk to the
Speaker 1: people that helped out that continue to help out with
Speaker 1: the Dream Center. I mean, you really took a three
Speaker 1: sixty view of everything that went into this and the
Speaker 1: people that were major players in this in real time exactly.
Speaker 4: That's what we wanted to do with something all encompassing.
Speaker 3: We don't have the story yet on how it started,
Speaker 3: why it started, that's going to come later. We are
Speaker 3: obviously still working this story every single day, and we'll
Speaker 3: be looking for that. This is a look at where
Speaker 3: are we right this moment, Where did we come from,
Speaker 3: and where are we right now. One of the interesting
Speaker 3: components that I found in the interviews I talked to
Speaker 3: two individuals, one that lost a house in Altadena and
Speaker 3: one that lost a house in the Palisades, and what
Speaker 3: struck me was how similar their stories are. I mean,
Speaker 3: these two fires that claimed both those areas were thirty
Speaker 3: miles apart, right, and these communities are both lovely, but
Speaker 3: they're also quite different, the Palisades being that quintessential California vision,
Speaker 3: that postcard image, and Altadina being sort of a small
Speaker 3: town in the middle of Los Angeles with churches on
Speaker 3: the corner and little old school business districts. But both
Speaker 3: of them were incredibly optimistic up into the last moment
Speaker 3: of the fires, for example, that, oh, we get these warnings,
Speaker 3: this happens, we've seen fires before, even but it's not
Speaker 3: going to be.
Speaker 4: It's not coming for us. And then it did.
Speaker 3: And both waited until the very end, also thinking that
Speaker 3: even as they were fleeing the flames that are house
Speaker 3: will still be there it wasn't. And then there are
Speaker 3: incredible similarities to the reaction afterward. Obviously devastation, but what
Speaker 3: is the government doing exactly? There are a lot of
Speaker 3: questions about what the rebuild and the recovery is going
Speaker 3: to look like. So in spite of what we hear
Speaker 3: at these press conferences in the flowery language and all
Speaker 3: of that, the folks who are dealing with FEMA, who
Speaker 3: are dealing with their insurance agents, the folks who will
Speaker 3: be dealing with permitting, they are calling it a serious
Speaker 3: red tape blockage.
Speaker 1: There seems to be something going around, not just at
Speaker 1: a local level, regional, national of the government should be
Speaker 1: doing X, Y or z, and it's not doing that.
Speaker 1: The government's supposed to be there to like we've talked
Speaker 1: about in the past, you know, water, roads, fire, police,
Speaker 1: right like, these basic things that the government is set
Speaker 1: up to do. And you can take this on any
Speaker 1: like I said, on any level you want to, and
Speaker 1: they're not doing those main things. And I think that's
Speaker 1: part of the reason why, you know, the incoming in
Speaker 1: administration is so fed up with the federal government and
Speaker 1: the bloat, because why aren't you just doing the basic things. Instead,
Speaker 1: you've built yourselves up to be these big things and
Speaker 1: you're tackling all of these things and you're not doing
Speaker 1: the very basic things. And I think that there was
Speaker 1: a frustration locally with these fires that shine like a
Speaker 1: light on that that hey, once you drilled down into
Speaker 1: the hole, well there wasn't enough water in the Palisades,
Speaker 1: and you drilled down, and we had fire officials on
Speaker 1: that said, hey, listen, we just ran out. There was
Speaker 1: water there, but the demand was so much at that
Speaker 1: period in time we ran out. The message that the
Speaker 1: government is giving to the people is not coming through.
Speaker 1: Most people are not hearing the government talk to them
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, we just ran out. Yes, those reservoirs
Speaker 1: should have been up and running, and we'll make sure
Speaker 1: to do that in the future. But they're not communicating.
Speaker 1: And I think some of that frustration is the divide
Speaker 1: between La City Hall and these politicians that have their
Speaker 1: heads in the sand and how to talk to real
Speaker 1: people and in terms of delivering that message.
Speaker 3: I talked to Lindsay Horvath a bit about that, like
Speaker 3: the broken trust now that a lot of people feel,
Speaker 3: and how can you rebuild that so we do explore
Speaker 3: that topic directly. And one of the folks who lost
Speaker 3: their homes in the Palisades told me for the purpose
Speaker 3: of this special that what we saw was a lack
Speaker 3: of fight. Even in the firefighting at the early elements.
Speaker 3: We know that they could not do aerial fight because
Speaker 3: of the severity of the winds. Yeah, but they were
Speaker 3: watching houses.
Speaker 1: It looked like a sense of urgency was missing.
Speaker 3: And there may be an explanation for that, but it
Speaker 3: has not been conveyed well enough to folks. I mean,
Speaker 3: can you imagine running up to a firefighter and saying,
Speaker 3: my house is on fire right now, and they say,
Speaker 3: there's nothing we can do. We don't have any water,
Speaker 3: there's nothing that we can do, and the explanations have
Speaker 3: not been thorough enough yet. We've been promised a thorough
Speaker 3: review once all of this dust settles. We don't know
Speaker 3: when that is because we've not only had the fires,
Speaker 3: we even had just today and yesterday the threat of
Speaker 3: the mudslides in these areas. So there's still the sense
Speaker 3: of urgency of addressing the catastrophe before they can get
Speaker 3: into any serious review. I've talked about this before. I
Speaker 3: think to your point, Shannon, LA. Government, City and county
Speaker 3: government in particular, have done a lot to make themselves
Speaker 3: seem important for a lot of different reasons that go
Speaker 3: beyond those basic services that you noted, homelessness being a
Speaker 3: great example of that, and the amount of money that
Speaker 3: is spent on homelessness. And then those of us who
Speaker 3: live in the streets are not necessarily in the streets.
Speaker 3: I mean, the homeless people live in the streets, but
Speaker 3: those of us who are walking, well, I live downtown,
Speaker 3: and you know, and I walk to those meetings sometimes
Speaker 3: and I think when I watch some of the conversation,
Speaker 3: I think, do you know how many piles of human
Speaker 3: feces I walked over to get to this building today?
Speaker 3: So do you mind if I clean my shoes while
Speaker 3: you do your land acknowledgment? Because we're not seeing the
Speaker 3: results that this high amount of money is supposedly delivering.
Speaker 3: And I think this fire is going to cause a
Speaker 3: shift not just from the people who are paying attention
Speaker 3: a little bit more, but perhaps internally. That's what I'm
Speaker 3: waiting to see. And you're already starting to see a
Speaker 3: little bit of differences emerging from the elected officials as
Speaker 3: they get into more intense conversations with one another.
Speaker 4: Will their priorities be shifted.
Speaker 1: About a way? This, right, Michael Monks is an estellar
Speaker 1: job of keeping his eye on the things that we
Speaker 1: do not we are easily distracted people, and we cannot
Speaker 1: be because that's what happens. That's how government takes advantage
Speaker 1: of of of all of a sheep. And Michael does
Speaker 1: a really good job of finding out what's going on
Speaker 1: in at city Hall and Border County County Board of
Speaker 1: Supervisors and all of that for us. So we really
Speaker 1: appreciate that you're doing a great job. Michael.
Speaker 2: Thanks talk to again La Fires and Path Forward Airs
Speaker 2: tomorrow night seven to nine. You're gonna hear it to
Speaker 2: get on Sunday afternoon as well. Thanks man, Now giving
Speaker 2: you see delightful? He smells good. Do you see see
Speaker 2: how much better it smells.
Speaker 1: In here with him?
Speaker 4: It's the sweat sweat, that's your sweat. Lose an essence
Speaker 4: of greatness. Wow, that's terrible.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, did you hear about the
Speaker 1: guy that was swallowed by the whale?
Speaker 4: Yeah? He said, I thought I was gonna die? He
Speaker 4: was inside the whale, yes for a moment.
Speaker 1: And he had the thought when he was inside the whale.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how am I going to get out of here?
Speaker 2: I hope I go back out the front door.
Speaker 1: What would you think if you were swallowed by a whale?
Speaker 4: I wouldn't think anything. I wouldn't be swallowed by a whale.
Speaker 1: I would think, oh my god, I was just swallowed
Speaker 1: by a whale.
Speaker 4: That's probably accurate.
Speaker 1: Like is this real life? By in this whale?
Speaker 2: We told you the story this week about right, Like
Speaker 2: that's crazy?
Speaker 4: About why are you ignoring? Ryan?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Ryan Honery is a multi award winning teenage inventor and
Speaker 2: entrepreneur actively putting his passion for people and environment into
Speaker 2: action for years, and that I'm reading straight from his website.
Speaker 4: Ryan, thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Did you see the story about the guy getting swallowed
Speaker 2: by the whale?
Speaker 6: I think I saw it on TikTok.
Speaker 4: Actually I guarante you saw it on TikTok So.
Speaker 1: Ryan, you are quite accomplished, do you hear that? All
Speaker 1: the time?
Speaker 4: Is thank you?
Speaker 1: The technology that you were able to come up with,
Speaker 1: is that because of where you grew up. I mean,
Speaker 1: you grew up in Orange County. You probably no stranger
Speaker 1: to wildfires being in the news your whole life. Is
Speaker 1: that something where you saw a need and wanted to
Speaker 1: fill the gap there?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So basically how the whole thing started was so
Speaker 6: I played competitive tennis, and a couple of years ago,
Speaker 6: I think it was like five six years ago, I
Speaker 6: was in Arizona in November of twenty eighteen, and I
Speaker 6: was actually there for a tennis tournament, and I was
Speaker 6: there with my dad, but my mom was still at home,
Speaker 6: and during like in between one of my matches, during
Speaker 6: one of my breaks, I saw on the TV there
Speaker 6: was like this raging wildfire and the hills and houses
Speaker 6: that were burning looked just like the hills and houses
Speaker 6: around on where I live. So I called my mom
Speaker 6: to ask if she was okay, and she was, and
Speaker 6: I felt like a wave of relief, obviously, But then
Speaker 6: I felt like guilty. I felt like it was wrong
Speaker 6: that I could feel a wave of relief while other
Speaker 6: people were like evacuating and scared for their lives and
Speaker 6: things like that. So I started to do some research
Speaker 6: and I found out that the reason wildfires were such
Speaker 6: a big problem is that because by the time they
Speaker 6: were detective, and by the time people even knew they
Speaker 6: were there, it had grown so far that it had
Speaker 6: already gotten out of hand. It's almost like wildfires are
Speaker 6: treated kind of like they should be treated, kind of
Speaker 6: like cancer. When you catch them in their early stages,
Speaker 6: they're much easier to deal with. But when you catch
Speaker 6: them once they've already grown out of hand, it becasen's
Speaker 6: a much bigger problem.
Speaker 2: That's a I don't think I've ever heard that analogy before.
Speaker 2: But the company that you have founded, Sensory AI, not
Speaker 2: only collaborating with the OC Fire Authority, but Irvine Ranch
Speaker 2: Conservancy has rewarded you a grant to do this. Give
Speaker 2: us a basic description of what it is in terms
Speaker 2: of how the sensors will detect wildfires super early so
Speaker 2: that they can do just like you said, jump on
Speaker 2: those fires and put them out quickly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. So basically the idea is to have
Speaker 6: my network spread across locations that are high risk of wildfires,
Speaker 6: which are chosen by the Orange County Fire Authority or
Speaker 6: whatever authority fire authority is of the area, and then
Speaker 6: my network will be spread throughout there and my network
Speaker 6: doesn't need any infrastructure, so it doesn't have to be
Speaker 6: plugged into power or need any whysie connectivity. And then
Speaker 6: it uses this idea of sensor fusion where it uses
Speaker 6: infrared sensors and gas sensors and also mixes with artificial
Speaker 6: intelligence that runs on my low cost, low power hardware
Speaker 6: to base increase the accuracy in decrease the false salons
Speaker 6: of my system. And basically the way it would work
Speaker 6: is that if one of my detectors were to detect
Speaker 6: a fire, it would use mesh networking, which basically just
Speaker 6: means my whole network can communicate with each other, and
Speaker 6: it would send that information from detector to detector until
Speaker 6: it reached one of my detectors that had cellular connectivity,
Speaker 6: and then it would use that cellular connectivity to send
Speaker 6: push notification or text notification to the fire authorities, telling
Speaker 6: them one the longitude and latitude of the detector that
Speaker 6: detected the fire, and two the direction in which the
Speaker 6: camera was pointing, so that they know exactly where the
Speaker 6: fire was.
Speaker 1: What do you like doing when you're not creating new
Speaker 1: technology to save lives and homes and things?
Speaker 4: What kid stuff do you like to do.
Speaker 6: I think my most favorite hobbies would be surfing and snowboarding,
Speaker 6: but definitely surfing the most. Because I live like literally
Speaker 6: two minutes from the beach, I can go almost whatever lifetime.
Speaker 4: Nice, nice, enjoy the tasty waves. Right. Yeah, well that's awesome.
Speaker 2: We're going to keep an eye on the stuff that
Speaker 2: you're doing because this is not the end for you. Clearly, great,
Speaker 2: thank you, thanks for taking time for us. How come
Speaker 2: you're not in school?
Speaker 1: School where we're going there is no school, So.
Speaker 6: I do a choint. I do like a hybrid program
Speaker 6: where I do my STEM courses at Stanford Online High School,
Speaker 6: which is basically Stanford University. They have a high school.
Speaker 6: I take my STEM courses there and then I take
Speaker 6: my Humanity courses at Newport Harbor High School. And Stanford
Speaker 6: Online High School doesn't have class on Fridays, and usually
Speaker 6: the plan is that I do my Stanford courses in
Speaker 6: the morning and then my Harbor courses in the afternoon.
Speaker 6: So today I have to be at school. I have
Speaker 6: to leave for school at eleven twenty five, which is
Speaker 6: why I'm able to be on the course.
Speaker 1: Gary asked that question because he hates himself and he
Speaker 1: hates me and every other person who do nothing when
Speaker 1: they were sixteen, Ryan, thank you so much. It was
Speaker 1: it was a great pleasure to talk to you. And
Speaker 1: good luck in the future. You're you're gonna be fun
Speaker 1: to look out for.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: You bet Ryan, you too, Ryan Honery. Okay, well, why'd
Speaker 4: you say that?
Speaker 1: Now we feel stupid. Now we're just sitting here and
Speaker 1: they're stupid.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that he put Stanford on hold for us
Speaker 2: this morning. Yeah, just hold on second, Stanford. If you've
Speaker 2: talked to two boneheads that.
Speaker 1: Can't get over a being swallowed by a whale.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: We still have astronauts that are stuck in the International.
Speaker 1: Space Station down. They thought they were going to be
Speaker 1: there for much longer after the initial well after the
Speaker 1: initial news that they were supposed to be there for
Speaker 1: eight days and would be there for a year and
Speaker 1: a half, they didn't know that they'd be coming home
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later.
Speaker 4: After that is so ended an interview.
Speaker 2: Anderson Cooper specifically did an interview with them last night,
Speaker 2: which actually.
Speaker 4: Was gravity is really really tough. It was delightful. They
Speaker 4: seem in great spirits.
Speaker 2: They describe the uh, they describe what they are expecting
Speaker 2: when they come home, and Butch Wilmore actually laid out
Speaker 2: sort of the timeline that they expect. So actually coming
Speaker 2: up at eleven twenty, we're going to talk about that
Speaker 2: interview and how they have been dealing with the fact
Speaker 2: that they've been abandoned, although they've not been abandoned, but
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that it was not what they were planning.
Speaker 2: They were planning the what was it, the eight day
Speaker 2: trip and it turns into Gilligan's Island in space.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we'll be talking about the whale swallowing
Speaker 1: the kayaker. I just watched the video. It looks so peaceful,
Speaker 1: doesn't it, the way the whale just swallows them. One
Speaker 1: fell swoop yep.
Speaker 4: They never hear you scream when you get swallowed by a.
Speaker 1: Way, very peaceful, serene waters, beautiful day to kayak.
Speaker 2: Well, it was like, thankfully he didn't have enough time
Speaker 2: in the whale to build a fire.
Speaker 4: And make him sneeze like Pinocchio did.
Speaker 1: His friend is caught on camera or his dad sounding fine,
Speaker 1: just pretty matter of fact fine, Like when you hear
Speaker 1: the pilot that's going down and he's like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: do it better.
Speaker 4: Oh, ladies. And Joel is captain speeding and you figure
Speaker 4: outside the right side you can actually see it on
Speaker 4: the left side of the cabin as well, that the
Speaker 4: ground is approaching it pretty high velocity.
Speaker 1: They're so calm. This guy was just as calm watching
Speaker 1: his kid get swallowed by a whale.
Speaker 2: You said the other day that you've spent eight bucks
Speaker 2: on eggs. Eight bucks on a dozen eggs, about seven
Speaker 2: seven bucks on a dozen eggs.
Speaker 4: Why a correct?
Speaker 1: Well, I just feel bad. Eight sounds like a bridge
Speaker 1: too far.
Speaker 4: You'd never spend that much.
Speaker 2: There is a new market that is opening up for
Speaker 2: people who want to, you know, have their own supply
Speaker 2: of eggs. A guy in Pennsylvania has a business that's
Speaker 2: called Rent the Chicken. Rent the Chicken. Sorry, it's not
Speaker 2: a guy, it's Jen Tompkins. She goes by Homestead and
Speaker 2: Jen she co founded the business with her husband Phil.
Speaker 2: What they say is they will partner with affiliate farmers
Speaker 2: across the United States and Canada to get chickens into
Speaker 2: your yard. The rental cost varies, but it can start
Speaker 2: at about five hundred bucks for a six month contract
Speaker 2: that will include two egg laying hens. They are ready
Speaker 2: to lay eggs within two days arrival, because usually you
Speaker 2: got a wait a year. Two hens. They say, we'll
Speaker 2: give you about a dozen eggs a week. That's about
Speaker 2: an egg a day.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I'll pay for this if we can use
Speaker 1: your backyard.
Speaker 4: Why mine?
Speaker 1: Because you have a backyard. I do not, and we
Speaker 1: need eggs and chickens.
Speaker 2: I have fewer predatory animals that would eat the I
Speaker 2: mean we'd have coyotes, though, I think coyotes would come in, but.
Speaker 1: We'll put them in a chicken coop.
Speaker 2: The rental cost includes the portable coop. See it includes
Speaker 2: feed for the chicken. It includes food and water. You
Speaker 2: didn't say experts. If you have questions, you didn't say no. Well,
Speaker 2: I love fresh eggs, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: Let's text the wife and see if we can get
Speaker 1: this ball rolling.
Speaker 4: You have her number as well.
Speaker 2: There are yeah, but I don't have sex with her, right,
Speaker 2: But I don't ask dumb questions of my wife.
Speaker 4: I try not to. I end up doing it, but
Speaker 4: I try not to.
Speaker 2: There are also packages to get four egg laying hens
Speaker 2: and supplies, which would be about two dozen eggs per week.
Speaker 4: It just struck me what you said.
Speaker 1: I'm ruining the day for so many reasons.
Speaker 4: Somebody needs to prevent you from stings.
Speaker 1: Caffeine suffee, I know that, I apologize.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: The biggest story of the day I saw it on
Speaker 2: TikTok the kayaker getting swallowed by the whale.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that we come back.
Speaker 2: And how many other times in history have people been
Speaker 2: swallowed by whales and spit back out?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's a thing Jonah in the Bible.
Speaker 2: Oh, Pinocchio saved his dad when monstro the sperm whip
Speaker 2: Moby Dick.
Speaker 4: Right, I don't know if he ever ate anybody.
Speaker 1: Oh, but he was a whale. Right?
Speaker 4: Also great, Yes, he was a whale. And Shamoo, Shamoo
Speaker 4: was a whale. Free Willy Willy was a whale.
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Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: The first Shamou was a female orca captured in what year?
Speaker 1: Would you say, sixty four, sixty five?
Speaker 2: I'm not a dummy. Here's that look again. There's that
Speaker 2: look again. You say something and you're like Addie is
Speaker 2: a baba. How do you even possibly know that that's
Speaker 2: a real place.
Speaker 1: I think it's a human thing for us to think
Speaker 1: that other people think the way we think, even though
Speaker 1: I know other people do not think the way that
Speaker 1: I think. I hope not, but I still think that
Speaker 1: that is a reflex that we have, Like, wow, you
Speaker 1: knew that. I would not have guessed nineteen sixty five
Speaker 1: or four. I mean know exactly do you know when
Speaker 1: the first Shamood died? You have that year pulled up
Speaker 1: seventy eight, seventy one. Oh well, and you don't know everything,
Speaker 1: do you?
Speaker 4: Bub bub.
Speaker 2: There is a video that's been going around about a
Speaker 2: humpback whale that swallowed a kayaker off of Chilean Patagonia
Speaker 2: before quickly going.
Speaker 4: What was that and spitting them right back the whole kayak.
Speaker 1: The kayak, the kayaker, the whole kayak is just swallowed.
Speaker 4: It's the most appeared.
Speaker 1: It's a peaceful video. The kayaker is there. The waves,
Speaker 1: it's not silk. They're a little choppy, but not too bad.
Speaker 1: And it's just shot at like water level, like another
Speaker 1: kayaker is maybe six yards away from this kayaker, and
Speaker 1: the whale just comes up and silently swallows the entire
Speaker 1: thing and then spits them back out quietly. You don't
Speaker 1: even see it, and he just bobs up above the water.
Speaker 2: Adrian Simonkis was kayaking with his father Dell, near the
Speaker 2: Sandy Seagra Lighthouse and the Strait of Magel and when
Speaker 2: a humpback whale surfaced, it engulfed Adrian and his yellow
Speaker 2: kayak before for a few seconds. Dell, the dad, captures
Speaker 2: the whole thing on video while very calmly encouraging his
Speaker 2: son to stay just as calm, Adrian said, I thought
Speaker 2: I was dead. I thought it had eaten me, that
Speaker 2: it had swallowed me. He was afraid that the huge
Speaker 2: animal was gonna then hurt his father, or that he
Speaker 2: was going to die out there in the cold water.
Speaker 2: Dell remained focused, literally filming and reassuring his son while
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what was about to happen to
Speaker 2: the boat.
Speaker 1: So the camera, I will say, this is mounted on
Speaker 1: the dad's kayak, so he's not holding it. It just
Speaker 1: so happens that it is mounted on their in case
Speaker 1: they I don't know.
Speaker 4: See a whale out there.
Speaker 1: I guess probably doing some whale watching, but that did
Speaker 1: trouble me that the dad was still filming, like what
Speaker 1: are you doing? But that's not the case. It's that
Speaker 1: it was a mounted phone or camera.
Speaker 2: In Jonah two to one, we hear the story big.
Speaker 2: Biblical scholars have suggested the size and the habits of
Speaker 2: a great white shark correspond better to the representations of
Speaker 2: what happened to Jonah. Normally, an adult human would be
Speaker 2: too large to be swallowed whole.
Speaker 1: It's not physically possible for a whale to swallow a human.
Speaker 1: They can put you in their mouth.
Speaker 2: But not but they're not. That's where it ends. Geppetto
Speaker 2: got stuck in Monstro. He was a giant sperm whale.
Speaker 2: And Pinocchio had the idea to start a fire to
Speaker 2: make them sneeze.
Speaker 4: If you chair, look the.
Speaker 7: Chair, we'll make them.
Speaker 2: And then they get on the little boat and the
Speaker 2: monstro sneezes.
Speaker 1: And they didn't that sound painful for that whale in
Speaker 1: that story.
Speaker 2: That he had a fire in his belly, yeah, and
Speaker 2: the wood and the wood well, I mean they had
Speaker 2: he had an entire ship in there.
Speaker 4: Remember he got swallowed. It was a very big whale.
Speaker 1: So whales, they say have huge mouths, but a whale's
Speaker 1: throat is a lot smaller than you would expect, essentially
Speaker 1: the size of a human fist.
Speaker 4: In fact, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you get hey, this is a good story,
Speaker 1: this is news you can use, folks. You get eaten
Speaker 1: by a whale, you ain't going anywhere. You're just gonna
Speaker 1: hang out there until he's done. I still would feel
Speaker 1: like that uncomfortable place. It would be uncomfortable, but you're
Speaker 1: not going to be eaten. I guess, well, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be swallowed, right, I guess you could be chomp, chomp, chomped.
Speaker 2: Be not all of those whales, like a humpback whale
Speaker 2: doesn't eat. What kind of tea theory working with? I
Speaker 2: think it's one of those what do they call the
Speaker 2: screen where they filter through and get the plankton and
Speaker 2: stuff bleen?
Speaker 4: Is that what it's called? Yes, I believe it is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think a humpback whale in fact eats that way.
Speaker 2: They don't like how do you spell baileen?
Speaker 7: Be?
Speaker 4: Still has no substance, no substance, but I don't think
Speaker 4: I think probably the tone shaped see it is a
Speaker 4: bileen whale.
Speaker 1: Cone shaped teeth whales.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just don't know. We've lost it.
Speaker 2: We'll come back and we'll do some swamp watch and
Speaker 2: then the Abandoned Astronauts they say they're not abandoned, and
Speaker 2: in fact they have some plans and they have some
Speaker 2: really great senses of humor. And we'll talk about the
Speaker 2: interview that they did, which was very pleasant actually to
Speaker 2: watch last night. Yeah, and if you use any part
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Speaker 1: Wait, so what's the difference between balleen and.
Speaker 2: Teeth that I don't I can't describe it quickly. But
Speaker 2: teeth are for teeth, teeth are for chewing stuff up.
Speaker 2: Billan is just like a filter that catches all of
Speaker 2: the little plankton and stuff.
Speaker 1: Like a filter, Like it looks like an air filter. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: now I see what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: It's more likely just back whale goes fascinating that in
Speaker 2: my mouth?
Speaker 1: Isn't that fascinating?
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