1 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,039 Speaker 1: Everybody working about the Challenge the podcast All About the 2 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Challenge Episode two, in our classic coverage of fresh Meat, 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,559 I am Brian sitting in his house about to go 4 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,439 for a beer, as he said right before we started recording, uh, 5 00:00:33,719 --> 00:00:39,280 and sitting working on her staying glass stuff. Still Carlan 6 00:00:39,399 --> 00:00:42,079 san Diego, been a whole week. She's still working on it. 7 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: I know all the time, Carlon san Diego. 8 00:00:45,439 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: And sitting at his house unmuted. Unlike last episode. 9 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,359 Speaker 3: Za. 10 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,359 Speaker 2: Oh and shameless plug. If anybody's in the Minnesota area, 11 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,960 come to the Stone Arch Bridge Fest. Well this is 12 00:01:00,439 --> 00:01:02,000 you will all be listening to those two weeks after 13 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,079 it happens, So never mind, but you can come to 14 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,280 Egan and find me there. 15 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:10,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach's about to give us a crib style tour 16 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:11,200 of his apartment. 17 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:15,239 Speaker 2: Oh so, last episode we learned that Zach was in 18 00:01:15,239 --> 00:01:18,319 a cult. This episode we get to see Zach's whole apartment. 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: I was just moving to a computer chair. 20 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: That is a coach. That's your lounging dude, lounging fall asleep. 21 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, every challenge pot dot com joined the Facebook group. 22 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:31,640 You can also join our Patreon, which we will get 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:37,120 to later. I am shocked that nobody in the live chat, 24 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:40,120 since we were doing four episodes at once as a 25 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:41,079 cult question. 26 00:01:40,879 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: For Zach Bordo was the only one in there right now. 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,359 Speaker 4: Isn't he? That's right? Bort to think of one and 28 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,439 get a drink, so I'm not drinking alone over here, Zach. 29 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,719 We do have to get into the cult stuff, but 30 00:01:51,799 --> 00:01:53,719 first we have to try our best to travel back. 31 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:55,920 Guys in our mind well, sorry, I fucked that up. 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,439 We have to travel back to June fifth, two thousand 33 00:01:58,439 --> 00:02:01,680 and six in our minds. 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,959 Speaker 2: You want to know the best part about June fifth 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:10,039 of two thousand and six, What it was my nineteenth birthday? 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 4: Legal Barely Legal, perfect dage for Girls Gone Wild, which 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,360 is a big video series at the time, I know 38 00:02:18,439 --> 00:02:22,759 from last episode. So to do that, we're gonna talk 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,800 about the top things that were happening in the country 40 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,240 at that time. TV shows are unchanged. Guys two and 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,319 a half, Men, Garbage still on the top of the 42 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:32,759 TV charts, big shake up at the at the box office, 43 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:36,080 though the breakup comes in at number one. Woofy. Do 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:36,879 you remember the breakup? 45 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: What was the Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Andison Worried. 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 4: That's that top song Hips Don't Lie featuring Whyite Clutch, 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,439 Jean Shakira featuring White claf Sean. 48 00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: Shakira. 49 00:02:49,879 --> 00:02:52,759 Speaker 4: Oh she's so fine. She's still so fine. That's Shakira. 50 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:54,759 I never I think that's when I heard of her 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,319 for the first time. She's been famous forever, right, like 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,479 Columbia or something. Yeah, and then that was her big 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,919 like you breakout whatever. 54 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: I must have got rid of that. I got rid 55 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:03,520 of the breakup. 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: I guess are we back in two during your breakup? 57 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: We believe it probably probably did left my house, Zach. 58 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 4: I got to know more about your cult. 59 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: What do you want to know? 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,719 Speaker 4: Did you did you? Did you share a bedroom? 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: No? 62 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,159 Speaker 3: I had my own bedroom, we all did. 63 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: Did you share a bathroom? 64 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Yes? 65 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: There was? 66 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:30,879 Speaker 1: You have a multi sex bathroom. 67 00:03:31,039 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: This is just like a giant, giant house in the woods. 68 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: It was, yeah, I mean it wasn't like a big 69 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:39,960 communal bathroom like multiple toyts and sold like a regular bathroom, so. 70 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,639 Speaker 2: One at a time. 71 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:46,759 Speaker 1: Still a multi sex bathroom. 72 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,599 Speaker 3: Yeah right? 73 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,159 Speaker 4: What was the like when they say you had to 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,800 work at the at the cult. I don't like what 75 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,560 were you doing, Like, is this like taking out the garb? 76 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:57,879 But is this like chores or are you like fucking 77 00:03:57,879 --> 00:03:59,599 digging ditches or some weird ship. 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: We actually did the dig dig ditches at one point 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,240 to put a fence and stuff like that, going out 80 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:11,039 chopping wood, helping in the kitchen, uh, you know, vacuuming 81 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,639 or dusting me you know, the hallways and the living 82 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:17,959 communal living spaces. Just yeah, basic housework. 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: Why kitchen guys? 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,519 Speaker 2: Why did your mother think that this was a good 85 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:28,639 thing for you to join. 86 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: As a cult. And you know, my mom's not religious 87 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,480 at all. I've always kind of been like, you know, 88 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,319 into Christianity and religion. And me and her have a 89 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:41,199 great relationship. Now we do not get long when we 90 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,199 live together. So I just got back from college. I 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,839 was living with her. Things were not going well, which 92 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,839 is like, hey, there's these people I work with. They 93 00:04:49,879 --> 00:04:52,839 helped run a house. It's like a Christian group, you know, 94 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:55,600 community house, and like, I think it'd be a good 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,120 fit for you. 96 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:02,079 Speaker 1: And I don't care if it's a colts or pocket 97 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,000 that out. 98 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,639 Speaker 3: Of my basically. 99 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so when you left the well, all right, we 100 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,480 got to save the cult. Leaving questions for next week, 101 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,639 the next week, this segment. Yeah, I've heard it's like 102 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:18,279 dangerous to leave a cult. I want to know how 103 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:18,639 it went. 104 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:20,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to get into it next week. 105 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: Is there like weird things you had to do because 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,839 I'm not I'm not necessarily feeling the culty stuff yet. 107 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,720 I mean there are some of it's there, don't don't 108 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,639 get me wrong, but there's no like, oh, we had 109 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,920 to all have sex with the leader, or we all 110 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:45,240 had to uh you know, yeah, just give all my money. 111 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,800 I mean, they definitely it was a comment coming we 112 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,839 all had to join it by you know, killing ours. 113 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:54,079 Speaker 3: They definitely went after my So they kind of presented 114 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,560 themselves rich. Is like, oh, like we're a Christian home 115 00:05:57,639 --> 00:06:00,439 that helps people kind of like you know, get on 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,879 their feet. Like you know, a lot of people that 117 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,360 lived there were like, you know, struggling with money or 118 00:06:04,399 --> 00:06:06,439 you know, find jobs and stuff. They're like, yeah, well 119 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,399 come help you. But then they definitely sucked your resources 120 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,399 at you, so you became reliant upon them. I was 121 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:14,319 like one of the only people there that wasn't one 122 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:16,560 of the leaders that actually had a vehicle. I can 123 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,959 have referenced it. You know in the last episode, several 124 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,360 times they would pop my tires, you know, smash it. 125 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:25,199 Like they did not like that I had the ability 126 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,120 to come and go as I pleased. They want me 127 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,120 there relying on them for transportation. 128 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:33,079 Speaker 2: Okay, And what is this called? We just called it 129 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,920 the listeners who want to go and. 130 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,759 Speaker 5: Google it Wikipedia, Yeah, we just called it. We were there, 131 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:41,839 they called it the Fellowship. It's full name that we 132 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:47,000 found later as the Fellowship of Friends originated in California 133 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,319 and have spread through. 134 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: Did they have any weird shit, like you had to 135 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,639 like wear a uniform or like wear the same anything 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,079 like not It wasn't Jones sending that have to have to 137 00:06:59,079 --> 00:07:00,839 wear the same shoes or some that it Jones sound like. 138 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,040 There's weird shit they could. 139 00:07:01,879 --> 00:07:06,319 Speaker 3: Do sometimes not uniforms, but I mean they definitely were 140 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:08,439 very conservative and what you were allowed to wear, and 141 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:10,439 like when you first moved in, they would kind of 142 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:13,040 go through the clothes you bron you know, remove stuff 143 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,439 that they didn't want you to have. And there's been 144 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,639 several times, you know, when I lived there, that I 145 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:20,040 would go, you know, I'd leave for a while and 146 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,040 I'd come back in my room and even though we 147 00:07:22,079 --> 00:07:25,079 had like I had the building of lock mine. They 148 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:27,720 would come and they would like go through it, and 149 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,519 like I could tell stuff was moved, and they'd be 150 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,160 like DVD that'd get like I had a the first 151 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:38,040 season of the show Weeds on DVD that went missing 152 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,560 real quick. 153 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 4: All right, crazy, all right, more could stories next week, guys, 154 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:46,519 good times. 155 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:53,439 Speaker 2: All right, I'm still just fucking blown away, but. 156 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: Stop being blown away and start going over the notes. 157 00:07:54,839 --> 00:07:55,800 You're up, miss Carlin. 158 00:07:56,199 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: All right. So now that we are successfully back in 159 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:05,360 two thousand and six in our mind, the episode starts 160 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:11,319 off initially like immediately into deliberation and nominations, we have 161 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:18,360 TJ telling the house name Bitch that the winners of 162 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:23,079 the previous of the previous challenge get to choose who's 163 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,240 going into exile. We still don't really know what exile is. 164 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:28,839 And then the house has to choose the other team 165 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:31,399 that's going into exile. Well, at the end of the 166 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,879 last episode, we saw Wes politicking to try and get 167 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:40,000 it so that he and Casey would get to go 168 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:43,320 against their kind of team of choosing. They wanted to 169 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,879 go against the team that he thought that was the weakest, 170 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,240 which at that point in time it was Shane and Lynnette. 171 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:57,200 Well he made according to his other Austin friends, he 172 00:08:57,279 --> 00:08:59,879 made the real boneheaded decision to go and try to 173 00:09:00,759 --> 00:09:05,159 uh make a deal with Tanya. And Tany at this 174 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,879 point in time is feel in some type of way 175 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,320 about Wes trying to basically manipulate her into voting his way, 176 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:15,919 and she goes and tells Shane and Lennette that Wes 177 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,519 is gunning for. 178 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Them, and what a slut. 179 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,519 Speaker 2: Exactly this is I believe that slut for Yeah, I 180 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,159 think that's when he did his his talking head where 181 00:09:29,159 --> 00:09:32,120 he called her slut. It's like that was so unprovoked, 182 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,000 so unprovoked. But whatever Wes was just it. This is 183 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,600 when like height not he this is the beginning of 184 00:09:38,639 --> 00:09:40,360 the height of his dickheaded nish. 185 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have Zach would say it never ended true. 186 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:46,759 Speaker 3: But. 187 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: Now we have even more dickheads. Uh. So we have 188 00:09:53,039 --> 00:09:58,200 a House vote and the House decides that, uh, they 189 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:03,080 don't really care what Wes once. Ultimately they have to do. 190 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,360 The vote is out loud in front of everybody. You 191 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:08,480 go around and each member of the team gets there 192 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,039 of each pair gets their own choice. You don't have 193 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,559 to vote as a pair. It comes down to Danny 194 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:22,200 and Evelyn part of the Austin Alliance, and Tanya and 195 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:24,679 Johnny are the other two. So it's Dani and Evelyn 196 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:28,159 have eight votes, Tanya and Johnny have six, and we 197 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,039 get to Joanna and her partner Jesse, and you get 198 00:10:32,039 --> 00:10:34,799 the little talking head of Danny saying, Joe, all you 199 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,639 need to do is vote for Tanya and Johnny and 200 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,240 then it's tied us up, and then the next two 201 00:10:40,279 --> 00:10:43,279 teams after you like, it's a much higher chance that 202 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,799 we are not going to be the ones to get 203 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:48,679 thrown in. Well, Joanna lets her partner vote and they 204 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,559 burn vote on Shane and Lynette. 205 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 4: I don't think that this matters as much as Danny 206 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:55,399 thinks though, right. 207 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:01,759 Speaker 2: I there are two more teams to go, But if 208 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:05,840 she had tied it up, there's a much higher chance 209 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,240 that people would have gone for Tanya and Johnny over 210 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,759 Danny and ev But I agree, it's still a you 211 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,759 were probably going in no matter what. You're just looking 212 00:11:15,799 --> 00:11:17,360 for a way to like a scapegoat. 213 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 4: I think that's what it was. 214 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: Yep, And unfortunately that scapegoat is Joanna. So Danny's fucking pissed. 215 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:30,320 He's absolutely lived at Joanna. He's you know, yelling at her, 216 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:34,480 saying that this is all your fault. Yeah, this is 217 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,039 when Wes calls Tanya slut for not not voting the 218 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,600 way that he wanted them to and all that. I 219 00:11:41,799 --> 00:11:45,159 just so so jarring hearing some of the language, some 220 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,759 of the things that people call each other in this 221 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,519 the way that they talk about some of the people 222 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,799 in this show. It's so jarring from how things are 223 00:11:51,799 --> 00:11:58,879 done now. Yeah, and Wes is Wes and Danny are talking. 224 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,039 Wes is trying to kind of call Danny down, and 225 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,759 Danny sits there and goes, look, dude, like, it doesn't 226 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:06,679 matter if you and I both go into this. One 227 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,720 of the two of us is coming home and we are, 228 00:12:08,759 --> 00:12:11,320 And if it's you coming back here, they are immediately 229 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,080 going to throw you back in because you've pissed the 230 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:18,480 entire house off with trying to manipulate Tanya and for 231 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,519 just going as hard as you have already. 232 00:12:21,759 --> 00:12:24,159 Speaker 4: So it's going to be awesome every time. That's just 233 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,440 sort of that's what it is, right, It's going to 234 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,240 be awesome every time. 235 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's also like if you look at 236 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:31,600 even seasons now, like if you come in if you 237 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:34,960 are not part of the VET Alliance, if you come 238 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,600 in with a group of people, you are automatically targeted. 239 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:40,919 And it doesn't matter who that group of people is. 240 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,440 They can be from are you the one, they can 241 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,000 be from survivor they can be people from the Challenge. 242 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,440 If you are newer and you're not part of that 243 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,679 VET Alliance, you are automatically going to be targeted. They 244 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,360 are going to throw you in every week no matter what. 245 00:12:53,799 --> 00:12:55,879 Speaker 4: And I remember back in two thousand and six when 246 00:12:55,879 --> 00:12:57,799 this is on. You know, I didn't I don't watch 247 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,320 Real World and stuff, so I didn't know that Austin 248 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,600 people from anything, and I was on board of like, yeah, 249 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:04,759 fucking get those people out of there, get those new people. 250 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:06,159 I don't need to see them again, you know, I'm 251 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,919 done with them. SAME's it's weird feeling it. I feel 252 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:10,879 differently about it now, but I remember the I remember 253 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:11,320 that back then. 254 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,919 Speaker 2: I honestly watching this show, like it's been so long, 255 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,000 I had those feelings again of like, yeah, absolutely, get 256 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,679 Wes and the rest of the Austin cast out, like 257 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,039 they are so fucking annoying and they're all cuddled up 258 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,519 all the time. 259 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: They're new. They're just the new ones. 260 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:27,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the new kids. And Wes especially is acting 261 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,120 like he knows what he's doing, and it was just 262 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:30,960 it was fun watching. 263 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 264 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: I just find it interesting that they're like, yeah, us 265 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,000 veterans need to get these new people out, and then 266 00:13:38,039 --> 00:13:44,679 it would be like, uh, you know, like Coral twenty seven, 267 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:46,799 then like nineteen. 268 00:13:47,919 --> 00:13:51,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is weird. Yeah, it's like the child like that. 269 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:54,720 They've always been about my age, the challenges. They just 270 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:57,799 keep getting older with me. Yeah, eventually they're gonna they're 271 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,240 me too old. We might be there ready, all right. 272 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:07,039 Speaker 2: And then we get a text from TJ. The text says, 273 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,320 now that you have entered the bush, prepared to get whacked, 274 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:13,799 be ready to leave by eight am. I missed the 275 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,519 text from TJ's so good it is. Again it's not 276 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,080 on a sidekick, which I was a little upset by. 277 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,919 But I don't think the sidekick was a thing quite yet, 278 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,000 so I guess it kind of made sense. So we 279 00:14:27,039 --> 00:14:30,679 have the Xile Day challenge. We find out that Wes 280 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,240 and Casey and Daniel ev have the chance to save 281 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,320 themselves if they win this challenge, but they have to 282 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,279 win the challenge order to get the pardon, so the 283 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,679 game is called bush whacked. There are a bunch of 284 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,720 stumps in a circle that everyone has to Everyone has 285 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,759 to stand in their pairs on top of these stumps 286 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,720 and then throw a medicine ball on a string kind 287 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,559 of like a pendulum at other teams to try and 288 00:14:57,639 --> 00:15:01,399 knock them off of this stump. There are three heats. 289 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,679 First heat is all of the teams on one foot stumps. 290 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,559 Second heat is after four teams have been knocked out, 291 00:15:08,679 --> 00:15:11,120 they move up to three foot stumps, and then the 292 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:13,399 third heat is just the final four. I don't know 293 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,919 why they said it was three heats, because the final 294 00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:19,480 four was just continuation of the second. It's very strange, 295 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,720 but we do find out that if that whoever wins 296 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:26,720 this challenge, they also get a slighter phone with a 297 00:15:26,799 --> 00:15:28,240 year of T Mobile service. 298 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,759 Speaker 4: Zach, you were in alask at the time. T Mobile 299 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:36,399 had the coolest phones, but T Mobile had shit coverage 300 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:38,799 around here. Do you remember this time? We'll fee I 301 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,039 really wanted a T Mobile phone, but you couldn't, Like 302 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,240 it didn't work anywhere around here. 303 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: I feel like T Mobile had the coolest phones, were really. 304 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,120 They were the ones who had the slide, the sidekick. 305 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,960 They always had shit. 306 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,399 Speaker 4: Service, yep. And I had the one that was like 307 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,200 the numbers were like in a round dial around the phone. 308 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,799 I wanted that one. It was in that movie Cellular 309 00:15:55,919 --> 00:15:57,840 with fucking the fucking Captain America. 310 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:58,039 Speaker 1: Guy. 311 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't remember that one. 312 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: Remember that one will be. 313 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:07,279 Speaker 1: Writer same writer wrote the wrote phone Book or phone Booth. 314 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: That those came out of a similar time ish And he 315 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,919 wrote two scripts. 316 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:12,399 Speaker 1: And he had one that dealt with a cell phone 317 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:14,679 and one that dealt with a phone booth. And some 318 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,679 movie studio was like, we love them, we want both. 319 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,799 Speaker 4: I like Cellular. Cellular was a banger of a movie. 320 00:16:21,879 --> 00:16:25,519 Kim Passenger, Yeah, and Chris Evans, right, that's the gay. 321 00:16:27,399 --> 00:16:30,120 I ironically enjoy that movie very much. And that someone 322 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,759 was fucking cool that he had in that movie. 323 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,559 Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever seen either of them. 324 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,879 I know that, like Colin Farrell was the phone Booth 325 00:16:36,919 --> 00:16:37,759 One's phone Booth. 326 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. Phone Booth is a very good, sort of Hitchcockian 327 00:16:40,679 --> 00:16:42,960 type movie. Yeah, he's stuck in a phone booth and 328 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,919 if he steps out, someone's going to kill him. He's 329 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,759 on the phone with the killer and stuff. 330 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,159 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I just I just haven't seen either 331 00:16:50,159 --> 00:16:51,559 of them. 332 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: So it's looked. In two thousand and six teen, Mobile 333 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,720 did not own any cellular towers in Alaska, so if 334 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,679 you had a T Mobile phone up there, you were roaming. 335 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,759 Speaker 2: And that was back when roaming was real fucking expensive. 336 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, getting a text was like a quarter if you 337 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,680 were in roaming. It's crazy. 338 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: That was still during long distance times. 339 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was the movie Sayular two thousand and four, 340 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,359 So we're in the approximate range too. 341 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:22,519 Speaker 1: Remember Anna Mullins was living down in Saint Louis, and 342 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:24,759 sometimes I would call her just a chat because then, 343 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:27,359 like I hadn't seen her in a while, and that 344 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,279 shit costs me, Like for me to call Saint Louis 345 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:34,079 two and a half hours away. That shit was expensive 346 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,319 on the cell phone. 347 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: Yea, sucked back then sucked. 348 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: All right. So onto the game, everybody gets up on 349 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:47,920 their stumps, and this is kind of our first indication 350 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,680 that Joanna is not good at the challenge, like at all. 351 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,920 She and Jesse literally just fall almost immediately. Yeah, like 352 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,359 it's within the first two or three uh swings of 353 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,759 this medicine Ball. 354 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,799 Speaker 4: And Jesse is also super unlikable as a as a 355 00:18:05,799 --> 00:18:07,759 man like I just there's something about him I don't like. 356 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:10,319 I don't like him, Yeah, anybody else with me? 357 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's just he was paired with 358 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:16,400 Johanna and that it didn't want to have a. 359 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Band called the Rippers. I would like him more. 360 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: Reference what do we get that said for you? Part 361 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:32,240 like him? Last episode four? The post credit scene. 362 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,759 Speaker 4: With him, yep, the post credits scenes. 363 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:40,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. So then Danny and Ev who are one of 364 00:18:40,839 --> 00:18:43,279 the two teams that need to get a pardon if 365 00:18:43,319 --> 00:18:45,839 they don't want to go to the exile. Unfortunately, they 366 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,039 fall in the second heat. Wes and Casey are still 367 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:51,400 in They make it into the third heat, but then 368 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:55,319 they fall because the medicine Ball goes behind them and 369 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,759 kind of spooks Casey and she you know, moves a 370 00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:01,920 little little bit and Wes loses his balance and then 371 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:08,680 they fall off. I also like this episode was real apparent. 372 00:19:08,759 --> 00:19:11,960 There were like Tanya is screaming at her partner Johnny, 373 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,680 but there is so much like color commentary on the 374 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:19,480 side about how much people disliked Tanya and I had 375 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:24,319 forgotten just how much she was disliked, Like there were 376 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,920 so many people who were calling her name saying that 377 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,279 she's an idiot, Like just I completely forgot, Like I 378 00:19:31,279 --> 00:19:33,440 don't know how that woman stayed on the show for 379 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,279 as long as she did and just continued to come 380 00:19:36,319 --> 00:19:40,079 back to so many people who disliked her so much. 381 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've always thought that Tanya. Yeah, I've always 382 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,000 thought that Tanya sort of persecution was much like I 383 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,799 never really understood the hatred. 384 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: She seemed. 385 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 4: Like I kind of a dru total, total coop total 386 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,559 that job. But I don't know if she's worth all 387 00:19:57,559 --> 00:20:00,640 this hatred and stuff that she gets. And I do 388 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,839 think there's like this mean girl pyle on thing. We 389 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,079 even see fucking Jesse that guy start talking about Tanya, 390 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,319 and it's like you're just doing it because everyone just 391 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,839 to fit in, and that's the worst fucking way to 392 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,200 do this. Yeah, I wish. 393 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,039 Speaker 1: She's presented, we'll say, presented on the show. How the 394 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,200 edit is. I mean, these are twenty minute episodes, but 395 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:22,240 it doesn't seem like from the four episodes we've watched 396 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,200 so far that she's done anything to warrant people just 397 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,039 being such a. 398 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:30,799 Speaker 2: Such assholes to her, and I don't I truly, I 399 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:33,559 just don't remember from other seasons if there are things 400 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:37,920 that were missing, But goddamn, yeah, people just fucking hated her. 401 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 4: You know. It reminds me of the more recent seasons 402 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,920 Amber Curly Fries. She gets a lot of hatred too. 403 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,359 And remember we we had a million conversations where it's like, 404 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,920 what are we missing? Why is it? Why can people 405 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,559 just talk shit about her? And you know, I don't 406 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:53,160 get it. I feel that same way about Tanya. 407 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:56,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very true, because like people also hated Beth, 408 00:20:56,599 --> 00:20:59,000 but Beth was hated because Beth was an asshole. And 409 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,799 I get the Bethe asshole and she knew that she 410 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,359 was hated and she played into it. Tanya is just 411 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,960 this like she's almost this like baby deer that doesn't 412 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,720 understand what's going on in the world, and people hate 413 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:16,000 her because she's just so aloof Yeah. 414 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,079 Speaker 1: But I've noticed the audience count and the chat room 415 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,599 went up. And since all of you have joined and 416 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,559 probably don't know yet, last episode, Zach revealed he was 417 00:21:24,599 --> 00:21:28,759 in a cult for a while, So please leave cult 418 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,519 questions in the chat room for us to ask him. 419 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,799 In the next two episodes that we're about to record. 420 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,279 Speaker 2: Very important listeners, very important, and anyone, anyone who is 421 00:21:38,319 --> 00:21:41,519 listening to these episodes once they actually get published, please 422 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:44,200 please reach out to us and give us your cult questions, 423 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,599 because this is I'm so curious. 424 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: About in a new podcast, just exclusively cult shit, right, 425 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:50,839 all right. 426 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,839 Speaker 3: So ultimately I want to read something really quick from 427 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:56,359 Reddick because I googled why with Tana so hated? And 428 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,920 here's a couple posts they al say the same thing. 429 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,160 Multiple cast members have basically said it came down to 430 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,680 her constantly lying about her life. She was a chronic one. 431 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,640 Upper if people were sharing stories about their life should 432 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,359 make hers out to be incredible and exciting, but then 433 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,079 would be unable to keep her stories straight. But yeah, 434 00:22:17,079 --> 00:22:19,079 that's what let it be in that outcast. 435 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: I just I still feel like that's not enough for 436 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,279 her to be hated so much, and not just hated 437 00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:28,920 so much, but like hated on a platform that is 438 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,799 going to then, which I guess they didn't really realize 439 00:22:31,839 --> 00:22:35,119 it as like how much it would influence people, but 440 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,400 like she's hated on a platform where people will just 441 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,519 adopt those thoughts and feelings because they like the other 442 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,720 characters on the show. 443 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that, I feel like those are those are 444 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:50,799 insights we get because we're in our late thirties and 445 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,920 for me early forties. I don't know about anybody else forties, 446 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,079 early early forties, but like this is you know, these 447 00:22:58,079 --> 00:23:03,559 are teenagers, do you like and like early twenties people, 448 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:05,319 you know, they just don't have they just don't know 449 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:07,319 or they haven't well, I don't know. 450 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: Beginning of Like it's still in the early early days 451 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,680 of reality TV. Yeah, I mean, like reality TV has 452 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,319 been around for a while at this point in time, 453 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,640 but it's nowhere near what it is like now. It's 454 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,119 not the powerhouse. And they also didn't have the Internet. 455 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:24,039 Speaker 4: Like we do. That's that was the other thing. Yeah, 456 00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:25,880 social media didn't exist. So these people just did a 457 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,480 season and went home and a little different. 458 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 3: Now. 459 00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:31,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you you might not like your like this 460 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,039 cast member or that cast member, but the chances of 461 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:37,680 you interacting with those people are very slim. Yeah, whereas 462 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,440 nowadays they can just go straight on to Reddit or 463 00:23:39,559 --> 00:23:44,200 other websites and immediately start blasting these people. All right, 464 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:47,400 So anyway back to the show, Coral and Evan win 465 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,960 So this is their second challenge, win in two challenges. Yeah, 466 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,119 they are setting themselves up to be real popular or 467 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,599 real good in this game. And the challenge is now over, 468 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,160 but we immediately go into exile. The TJ comes out 469 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,200 and tells them, all right, well, Wes, Casey, dannyv you 470 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,359 guys didn't win the pardon. You have ten minutes to 471 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,039 say you're goodbyes, and you're going straight to exile. Go 472 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:20,240 grab your bags, And everybody's just floored. Joanna starts crying because, 473 00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:22,359 oh what am I gonna do without you? Here was 474 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,920 and what happens if you go home? And Linda's crying 475 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,759 because Danny's doing the same thing, and yeah, it's a 476 00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:34,599 bunch of barf, and then the cast leaves. They are 477 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,200 also like the Vets who have been in this game 478 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,440 for a while, they are really bummed that they don't 479 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,359 get to watch the exile. They don't get to see 480 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,079 this elimination happen, which I think was this the first 481 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,440 season where the elimination was not in front of everybody. 482 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,559 Speaker 4: I think it was. Yeah, yeah, it was very surprising. 483 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the looks on all of their faces, 484 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,640 like Tina and Coral especially, We're like, wait a. 485 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,279 Speaker 4: Second, what, Yeah, I kind of like it. Well, this 486 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,880 is a way around the challenges. Helping each other in 487 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,160 the arena, which depending on who you talk to, is 488 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,839 a big problem with the format of the challenge. Gives 489 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,759 her that and I kind of like it. I kind 490 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:11,119 of like that. The Exile is kind of a mystery 491 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,559 because we see that come into play later when Wes 492 00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:17,920 and Casey don't tell people what it is spoilers. Well, yeah, 493 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,640 but you see it like there's some strategy with it too, 494 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,519 so it introduces like there's a level of you know, 495 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,400 a new level here. 496 00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:27,319 Speaker 2: I love it for that same reason. All right, So 497 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,960 the game The Exile is basically it's a race. It's 498 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,079 a race that has a start and a finish and 499 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,079 two checkpoints. These checkpoints are optional, but if you do them, 500 00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:43,000 and if you get them right there's you will get 501 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:47,000 a prize of some sort. And that could be everything 502 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,400 from time off of your ultimate score or ultimate time. 503 00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:54,119 It could be a ride to the next checkpoint. It 504 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,079 could be dropping the weight that you're having to carry. 505 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,680 Because they are also informed when they get to the 506 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,000 start line that they had their bags weighed when they 507 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,599 first showed up in Australia, and now in the exile, 508 00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:11,720 they have to carry bags, not their luggage, but they 509 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,839 have to carry weighted bags that equal the same amount 510 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:17,079 of weight of the as the luggage that they brought in. 511 00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 4: I don't like this either. I like this. 512 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,519 Speaker 2: You don't. I love this. 513 00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:25,319 Speaker 1: It's sort of fun, like, let's use stuff that you 514 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,920 didn't know you were being measured against as part of 515 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,599 like your elimination or whatever. 516 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,759 Speaker 2: I just think it's funny because it's like I think 517 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:38,160 it's funny one because like Casey immediately sits there and goes, okay, 518 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,240 I have sixty pounds in my like my bags. Evelyn 519 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:46,279 brought forty four or twenty four, sorry, twenty four pounds, 520 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:51,319 and so it's the major discrepancy there on, like who 521 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,759 brought more stuff? That sort of thing. 522 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: But imagine Smashly, Oh my god. 523 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: Some of the girls in the currency, hell, even some 524 00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:01,039 of the guys in the current seas, like the amount 525 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:02,519 of stuff that they all bring. 526 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Binanza's guitar, that thing, ate that thing, ate light. 527 00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: But I like that they have to carry the weight 528 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:17,119 because they have those checkpoints where they the the prize 529 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,799 for doing the checkpoint is potentially dropping their bags, which 530 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:21,759 we see happen a few times over the season. 531 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what I don't like about it is 532 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,759 number one, it's arbitrary, and number two, it's like sort 533 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,319 of outside the game, like that that happened when they 534 00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:31,799 were home. You know, like if there was a like 535 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,079 you had less weight because you won the challenge or 536 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,200 you did you know, you got a certain time or something. 537 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,480 I would like that, But the bag seem seems too 538 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:40,079 random to me. 539 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if they were all given the same 540 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,160 instruction as to like, hey, you're going on this thing 541 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,880 for X amount of weeks. These are the things that 542 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,799 you need to bring. It's up to you as to what, 543 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,640 like how you interpret those instructions. So technically they could 544 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,680 all have relatively the same amount of weight. They could 545 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,839 all go on that twenty four pound like Evelyn Dad. 546 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: Technically they were all weighed when they showed up at 547 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,000 the airport, so it was inside the game too. 548 00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:12,319 Speaker 4: Oh wha yeah, but still humm, there we go, guys. 549 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: Yep, souh. Checkpoint one is like checkers like game where 550 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,400 basically it's the game where you have to move the pieces, 551 00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:25,039 you have to jump over pieces, and you can only 552 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,960 jump every time you jump over one. You can move 553 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,880 that one out of the game, but you have to 554 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,440 have one piece left on the board at the end 555 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,839 of the game. 556 00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 4: Most of us Midwestern has played this game at the 557 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,680 fucking Cracker Barrel. Yep, Carlin, are you a Cracker Barrel person? 558 00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: I think I've been to Cracker Barrel once and it 559 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:41,799 was in Colorado. 560 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,519 Speaker 4: Zaki, did they have cracker Barrel in Alaska? 561 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: You do not have Cracker Bell in Alaska? 562 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:47,799 Speaker 4: Bummer. 563 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:52,559 Speaker 1: I bet Zach wouldn't need anything in cracker chicken prid stake, Zach. 564 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: I've paid Cracker Bell a few times here in down 565 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,640 That's fine, nothing fam like great, but I'll eat it. 566 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: You were about to say it's nothing fancy. 567 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,599 Speaker 4: But they have this game with the golf tees. 568 00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:10,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, the golf tees on the tables and yeah, I 569 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,519 followed that in last and not at restaurant, Well, no, 570 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,720 we actually have one restaurant. I have that a lot 571 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,680 of times. You just SEEHM on people's like coffee tables 572 00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:17,319 up there at home. 573 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen a shirt recently that has that game 574 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,640 on it. This say, is I like to get pegged? 575 00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: Nice? Yeah? So it's that game. Uh, Wes and Casey 576 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,119 decided to just skip it. Daniy and Evelyn decided to 577 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,359 do it, and they get a reward of one minute 578 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,359 off their time. But Dany does make the point of like, oh, 579 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:40,240 that's great, but it also took us more than a 580 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,440 minute to do this, so if we hadn't done this, 581 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:44,119 then we probably would still be neck and neck with 582 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,839 Wes and Casey. So that's the trade off. Is like 583 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,839 you have to kind of think about is it strategic, 584 00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,960 Like is it strategic to do these checkpoints or should 585 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,440 we just continue on? So Wes and Casey skip that 586 00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:58,039 checkpoint and they start heading for the next one. The 587 00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:00,599 next one is there a bunch of bocks is set 588 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,720 up or a bunch of squares laid out with sticks, 589 00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:08,200 and the instruction is you have to move three sticks 590 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:14,400 to make three boxes. And Evelyn, Wes and Casey again 591 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,400 skip this one and just keep going. Evelyn decides that 592 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,079 she wants to try the puzzle, but she doesn't read 593 00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:21,480 all the instructions. You can only try this puzzle once, 594 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:23,680 so the moment that you move a stick, you cannot 595 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400 move it again, and that you can't retry it. So 596 00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:29,400 they get it wrong, which means that they have now 597 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,519 just wasted more time and have to continue running on 598 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:34,440 this course without the benefit. 599 00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: And it's a bummer because the prize for this one 600 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,559 was get in the car and drive or get driven 601 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,839 to the finish line yep. 602 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,519 Speaker 2: So there's a good chance that they would have won 603 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,319 if they had gotten this one right, but they didn't, 604 00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:53,440 so they ultimately they end up losing Wes and Casey 605 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,759 when Wes has done quite a bit of yelling at 606 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:01,240 Casey this point in time, and we don't actually find 607 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,119 out who wins until we get back to the house, 608 00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:06,480 So they kind of do a cut scene before the 609 00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:11,440 actual finishing of this checkpoint, and we see Wes and 610 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:13,519 Casey get out of the car and everybody's kind of 611 00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:15,799 like some people are really excited, other people are really upset. 612 00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:19,400 And then it does a flashback which we know Wolf 613 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:25,319 he loves back to the to the Xile to kind 614 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:28,839 of show the ultimate outcome of what happened with the game, 615 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:29,839 which we kind of knew. 616 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: This one's a little less egregious. 617 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it literally just happened. 618 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,839 Speaker 1: And they're showing like they're setting up that the loud 619 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,799 the winner is surprise, Like, okay, it's less about like, oh, 620 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:49,319 here's pertinent information you didn't get up until this very second. 621 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 622 00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was about revealing it, like we are. We 623 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,640 are also surprised about the winner, right, so for us 624 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,079 to be surprised, we don't know how. We can't know 625 00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:59,759 how the exile goes. I agreed Wilfe. As they were 626 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,200 doing the flashback, I thought, I bet Wolfe hates this, 627 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:03,880 and then I thought, no, this actually kind of makes 628 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,279 sense this time, like for the you know, for the 629 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:07,480 reasons he said it does. 630 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: Isn't like all of a sudden, like hey, there was 631 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,880 this a twenty minute conversation about these people, but you. 632 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: Oh, you're wondering why they voted, Like here's why, show us, 633 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,039 show us how it happened. 634 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there wasn't a like Wes comes out of the car. 635 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,000 But then they flashed back and showed Danny crossing the 636 00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,599 finish line first and what the fuck? And then they 637 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,759 flashed back all the way to like the very first 638 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,160 puzzle and find out that they got disqualified doing something 639 00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,200 that they didn't tell us, like there was a problem 640 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:39,920 like back when it happened. Yep. Then I'd be like 641 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,559 this is bullshit. 642 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well the other fun thing is that we now 643 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,599 have Wes and Casey are being asked all of these questions, 644 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,240 but oh, what's the exile? What do you guys have 645 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:49,720 to do? 646 00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 3: This? 647 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:51,799 Speaker 2: That, and the other. And we get the little talking 648 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:55,519 heads from them of like this is great. We get 649 00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:58,720 to lie and about all of the shit that we 650 00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:02,480 have just done. So we have Casey going hardcore on 651 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,200 a lie about how they had to eat kangaroo sack, 652 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,799 tongue and balls in order to get through this exile, 653 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,680 and she's having a fucking blast telling these people that 654 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,160 she ate this ridiculous stuff. 655 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: I love her so much. I had such a crush 656 00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:19,119 on her. I still do kind of. 657 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: I had this like uzzy like ooze beef jerky and oozy. 658 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,960 Ooh yeah, but that's the episode. 659 00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:30,799 Speaker 4: She's so fine. 660 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: All right. So post credit scenes because I figured I 661 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,119 could add those because I watched them all flashing back 662 00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:40,440 to losteps are real quick that for the episode there 663 00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:45,960 the post cred scene was just Quarrel mocking Casey about 664 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,160 her inability to jump and be like what happened and 665 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,519 Western like, don't don't her ask my partner? She's like, 666 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:53,720 I'm not asking her. I'm just trying to understand how 667 00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:55,440 like f her age, she hasn't learned how to jump. 668 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,160 This was Less and Kasey in the van on the 669 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,519 way back discussing the plan about lying about eating, and 670 00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:07,839 at the very end you have Casey Gill do kangaroos 671 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,079 even have balls? And West is like, how am I 672 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:12,039 supposed to know? But if we don't know, they won't 673 00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:12,440 know either. 674 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,639 Speaker 2: Yeah I do. I loved that they took that and 675 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,159 ran with it like I thought it was. I mean, 676 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,519 it's a great idea. You're the only ones who have 677 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,400 been in the exile absolutely lie, steal and cheat about 678 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,679 what's in there. 679 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,039 Speaker 4: And I really do feel like that's a West thing too, 680 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,920 of like, look for any fucking advantage you can, even 681 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,360 if this really doesn't make a difference, like let's try 682 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:41,800 to use it. 683 00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: Yep. 684 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 4: So yeah, I like seeing Wes's influence even early. 685 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that. 686 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody have every challenge. Pot dot Com joined the 687 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,199 Facebook group. You can also join our patreon. What do 688 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,639 people get on patreons? 689 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,679 Speaker 4: Well, for five bucks a month, you get early access 690 00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,840 to all of these flashback episodes. Will Fee reminded me 691 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,239 of that one, So we record these episodes in batches. 692 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,800 You get all of them if you subscribe to Patreon. 693 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,079 In addition, you get pre shows after shows, literally years 694 00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:10,360 of content. I'll have to make some bonus content of 695 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,000 Zachi's cult adventures. That's like more years of content, guys. 696 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:26,039 And we also say your name, So thank you to Elena, Alvin, Ana, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, Emily, Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jaqueline, Jamie, Jamie, Julie, Maverick, Patty, Peter, Rolden, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, 697 00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:28,679 Scott Shack, shake our smile, and Jack, Stan and Stoe. 698 00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:32,679 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Thanks everybody, thanks for sticking with us in 699 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,400 the off season. 700 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate it. 701 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,559 Speaker 1: We we lost one person out of the chat room 702 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,639 and the other two people that are still there have 703 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:46,360 not given us cult questions. We need them for next episode, slackers. Sure, 704 00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:49,840 all right? Did anybody us have evernything else I want 705 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,760 to say before we wrap this episode up? All right? 706 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,639 Well for another episode of Challenge, Sweetet, Carl and san. 707 00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: Diego, Zachie Banana. 708 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: And as I don't know Zach said in his cult 709 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,599 probably like oh my god, I'm in a cult. 710 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: Peak