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out to the hot line. Welcome in former, b why

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you get great? We got the past? Break up King

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on the live below. Brian Logan is on the line below.

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Speaker 3: How you living good man? Sounding like a villain? Hey

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can you I'm I'm on speakerphone right now, so I

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just want to make sure you can hear. Everything's crystal clear.

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Speaker 2: If not, you sound no, No, you sound fantastic. Actually

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you sound crystal clear, brother, perfect, per you.

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Speaker 3: Just sound you always had. You always said I got

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the deep, dark, sexy voice.

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Speaker 4: So you do, man, you got you got that voice.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're on You have you have TV talent

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and have radio talent in you cause you look good.

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Speaker 3: Thank thanks, Thanks dude. You know if I if I

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I'm turning purple right now. If I was white, i'd

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be I'd be I'd be turning, I'd be I'd be read.

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But I'm black, so I'm turning purple.

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Speaker 2: Man, give us a brief update, man, a little keeping

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up with the cougars.

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Speaker 4: What's keeping below busy these days? Man?

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Speaker 3: My my my third, my third youngest dre he's eight

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months man, he is. I'm look, I don't know how

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I know in the LDS culture, in the church, you know,

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you guys have like ten kids, but like I, I can't. Man,

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my my, I got a fourteen year old, I got

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a ten year old, and I got an eight month

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year old. So I've lost probably about five pounds, you know,

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chasing him around. He's crawling and going up the stairs,

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doing all crazy types of stuff. So that's a pretty

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big gap, you know, ten ten years and eight months.

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So I'm relearning how to be your dad again, you know. So,

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But yeah, that's that's about it. Man. He's he's a

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breath of fresh air. He's a loving, loving kid. He's loved,

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he's happy. You know, he'll have his his his his

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nine month appointment here in a bit. But he's on

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track right now to be about six to two. So

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I'm just for that.

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Speaker 4: Let's go. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Keeping busy and multiplying and replenishing the earth. That's the

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first commandment that God gave Adam and Eve below.

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Speaker 3: I know it. I know, I know, I know it.

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So you know, uh yeah, yeah, I wish I could.

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Speaker 2: Do more, but you know, you know, he looked where

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you stand below, Brian. This BA football team coming off

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a miraculous, marvelous season twelve to two, only losses to

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Texas Tech, definitely one of the best seasons in BAU

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football history. When you look at what's been accomplished over

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the last two years, it's, uh, it's impressive. Man, with

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Collott's building. As a former player, what are you seeing

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that You're like, I.

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Speaker 3: Think, I think culture is probably the biggest thing. When

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you look at the landscape of college all right now

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you have n IO and the transfer portal, it's it's

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really hard to be loyal and and when you look

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at the retention of b y U and and all

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the guys that they've retained, especially starters and guys that

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have made, you know, impact on the field, you gotta

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you gotta give up the culture. Obviously, you know, b

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y U is a richer school in America. I don't

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care what anybody says. We we're the richer school, but

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we don't give out those funds like the rest of

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the other schools. Right Like, we're not giving out the

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same funds as Texas Tech or Miami or Notre Game,

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et cetera. And so in order to retain these these guys,

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it's it's it's it's culture. A lot of those guys.

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have made impacts, like like Bear or l J, they

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got it easily, went anywhere else, but they decided to stay.

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Obviously they're gonna stay because they're they're getting money. That's

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let's not let's try to sweep that under the rug,

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like it's not a big thing. But to be able

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to convince a kid to stay for reasons outside of

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money says a lot. So I think I think cultures

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is huge. And you know, I said this on TV

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the other day, how you know your your like where

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culture is passed down. Culture has passed down through your

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the team, not necessarily through the head coach. Right, so

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you have the head coach that culture is in the

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vision and the mission has passed down to the leadership,

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and then leadership then passed that they passed that down

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to the players. And I think the last two years,

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to answer the question more directly, is you start to

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see that regardless if it's transperportal guys, if it's freshman,

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if it's Chase guys coming in, any any of the

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of the new signing group that's coming in, they come in,

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they love everything about the program. Uh, they love everything

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about the city and and and what BYU stands for

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and the and they gravitate to the culture like immediately

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almost like that. Right, So, I think he's done a

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really great job of doing that.

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Speaker 4: Love that breakdown that you gave.

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Speaker 2: There be low lots to be excited about, lots to

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you know, buy into right now. And b Yu's trending

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in the right direction, and they've they've acquired some great

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talent via the portal and UH and the retention though,

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the retention is what's so impressive. It's not like they

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have to go out and acquire twenty thirty guys. They

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can go out and get maybe ten eleven guys and

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they're good. What does that say about the culture right now.

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Speaker 3: I think it says that it's bigger than football. You

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know what what what BYU stands for what they're trying

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to accomplish. You know the mission statement that's back to

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you know, by the church, and it resonates, you know.

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I always tell the story after San Diego State took

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away my scholarship. My first offer was with Gary Anderson

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at Utah State. This is his first year being a

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head coach or going into his first year, and he said, look,

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I know, I know you're short, but you're athletic, You're

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crazy talent sed I'm gonna put you at corner. I'm

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gonna put you at nickel, I'm gonna put you at

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strong safety, free safety. You're gonna return kicks, You're gonna

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return punch. I'm gonna put your on offense. I'm gonna

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get you some some bubble screens, some reverses. I'm gonna

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I'm gonna really highlight how versus how your your athleticism

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is to get you to the next level, which is

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the NFL, to where you know, these NFL scouts they

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don't have to worry about you know, your height and uh.

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And it was the same same game plan and blueprint

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that I did in junior college. Right, I did everything

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that Gary Anderson said that he wanted he wanted to

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do for me at Utah State at the D one

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level that I did in junior man. I went. I

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went to b YU the next week, and Broncos didn

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say none of that, none of that. I almost kind

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of regret not going to Uta. I'll saying, not gonna lie,

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that's that's another conversation. But Bronco is like, look, I'm

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gonna You're gonna be a better man, a better father, husband,

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you know, brother son, you know, et cetera. And that

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that was so different and a complete one eighty message

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to me that I really resonated that you know, football

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only lasts so long, and uh, life after ball is

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really what's what's important, especially with me and you know,

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being a shorter corner and my odds. And I think

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every coach regards if they're a head coach or an

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assistant coach, they had that message that that resonates with

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with players regardless if they're LDS or not LDS, that

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they're black, white, orange, Muslim doesn't really matter. And so

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I think I think that message Klinie has done a

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really great job of conveying that message that hate like

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like the off the field message as well as the

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on the field message. But the on the field message,

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i think for the first time in a while, is

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now backed up. When you look at the wins, you

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look at the guys that are getting drafted, you look

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at the position that that that this program is in

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being ranked top twenty five for the last couple of years.

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So now you have a player that's that's getting the

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off the field message, but the on the field message

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is actually backed up, and you can see that through

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through the stats, and you can see that through you know,

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the amount of height and the love and the recognition

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that the program is getting.

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Speaker 4: Check this out.

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Speaker 2: This was breaking news a little bit ago with I

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think it was yesterday when it dropped. I don't know

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if you saw this, but pending committee approval, college football

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players can now playing in play in nine games and

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keep their red shirt instead of the current four gamer rule. Now,

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when you and I were playing, you play one play

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and your red shirt is burned. Right then they moved

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in twenty seventy to four games. Now it's up to nine.

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I don't know how you would have utilized this, but

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I should sure could have utilized this as a JUCO

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transfer at BYU. I need my year back then, Hey,

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let's go, let's go play bro.

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Speaker 3: Hey, actually I need two years. Look, I need I

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need a COVID year. Everybody got a COVID year, and

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I need my red shirt year. I didn't a red shirt,

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so I got two years. Kline, come high. Let me,

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I don't you know. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know how I feel

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about it. Well, okay, now that you asked me, I'm

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thinking about it, and I'm throwing right now so I

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can get my thoughts together. Yeah, I like it because,

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like I would, I would have loved to be a

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red Shirt and had and got that experience, like like

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real game time experience. And I'm not just talking about

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on the field, off the field as well, right, like

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being able to travel? What does that look like with

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my grades and my classes? When I when I am traveling,

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how do I communicate you know, those type of situations

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to my teachers? How do I prepare when I'm on

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the road. How do I tell my girlfriend, look, we're

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not about to see to them? For a couple of days.

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You know what I'm saying, all that stuff like plays

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places and part of it of getting that experience, and

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so I don't necessarily think it's a negative thing. It's

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just kind of crazy to me. Like what you said

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when we played it was you talk about playing one

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snap man. If you if you if you took if

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you took a certain like a junior college, if you

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took a certain amount of credits, you like you were eligible, right,

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like like junior colleges like d one you take one

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snap Junior colleges is credits. And so I think it's

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it's just it's new to us. So it's kind of crazy.

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But I think the better question, and I'm gonna ask

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you this man, is does it does it does it

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negatively impact the player? Or does it help them in

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a positive way?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look selfishly, you know, you can strategically

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navigate certain things. Like let's say, you know, I'll give

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you as an example, right that first year was what

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two thousand and nine, wasn't that your first year? And

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I know there was like some maybe like you didn't

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know you were going to start until like the week.

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Speaker 4: Of right, No, I did in my heart, you did

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, so you started and played well. Versus Oklahoma,

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you know, you go on the road, versus Tulane, you

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play there, you win, you lost to Florida State.

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Speaker 4: You know, you play Colorado State.

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Speaker 2: You're looking at the back end of the schedule and like, hey,

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like what is there like three games? Because remember you

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can play in bowl games. You can play in bowl games.

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So are there three games that are easily winnable that

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you could maybe sit out for and like, hey, I

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can play an additional two years, right. It becomes a

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little bit more strategic, right, Like when I came to

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by you even getting four games, that would have been

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nice to be able to strategically be like, okay, well

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they're gonna redshirt me, but I'll play in four games.

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I want to read you because I want to be

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here for the next two years, right, or I want

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to maintain my eligibility.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, you can you can strategically navigate it

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a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: And now this day and age more earning potential as well. Right,

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that's almost three seasons. It'll eventually go five for five.

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It'll eventually go there, but there's some litigation that's occurring.

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There's some lawyering that's going on right now that's limiting

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that ability. But eventually it'll get five for five. But

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so I think it's a good thing overall. I'm a

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player advocate, even though it does create a little bit

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more chaos for coaches and administrators and institutions.

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Speaker 3: Well, Ben, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you

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like a personal example. This is twenty ten, right, So

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we we played Florida State and I remember in the

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up spraining their terrance some ligament in my shoulders and

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that that was the same game that Riley Nelson ended

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up getting hurt and he red shirted. Oh yeah, I remember. Yeah.

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I remember going in on Monday to the training room

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and Riley was like, man, I'm done, and I was like,

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I was like, oh shoot, I got hurt too. I'm like,

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I'm I'm thinking about it now. This is this is

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the reason why I was thinking about it. Yeah, there's two.

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There's two reasons. The first and foremost, my cousin Joe

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Sampson had just committed right and I played with him

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at the junior college level and he had just committed.

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He was he had the red shirt because he even

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got grades. Yeah, I went to buy U and I

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couldn't be a mentor or nobody anymore. And he was

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doing stupid stuff anyway. So I was like, I would

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love to play with my cousin again. That's number one.

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Number two, Bronco had announced and BYU had announced that

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they were going to independent, and they had showed the schedule.

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So I was like, yo, this is a crazy schedule

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compared to what I'm I I'm used to this prior

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to year. So and Riley was like.

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Speaker 5: Bro, just do it, just do it, do it, do it.

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Speaker 3: So so to this point of this announcement, I would

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have rehabed and and still played. But I would have

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I wouldn't. I would have came to a certain point

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of whatever you know that the nine games or for

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whatever it was, and played up until that point, and

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I would have read started for selfish reasons, and then

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it had another year, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So so now I'm I'm with you, man. I think

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I think it's a I think it's a good thing,

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and especially guys like me that have a very slim

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chance to play professionally at the next level, like I

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would like when I like when I was like earning potential,

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like I was done, Like like I played in the

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CFL for a year, I played like making sixty thousand

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dollars year, played arena football for year making three hundred

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dollars a week, you know what I mean, Like I'm

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somebody like me, I'm I would gladly stay and get

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two hundred three hundred grand and stay another year. So

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you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people are gonna get angry because,

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you know, high school players, this whole new this new

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realm of of of of college, the college football landscape,

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high school players against screwed.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, yeah, yeah, technically they are. They're just not.

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But but technically they're not.

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Speaker 2: They can go to JUKO, they can go to D

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one Double A, they can go to D two, they

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can go to D three. They can continue to play

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ball and receive scholarships, just not at the G six

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or P four level, and then you can get experience there.

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I mean, you know, you can still get your scholarship.

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You're just not getting nil as much as you're you're

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going the traditional route of getting a scholarship and academic scholarship.

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Speaker 3: Initially, well you got you gotta think. Look, look, I'm

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a I'm a marketer, right, and we always talk about

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this and something where that's made a lot of success

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with me and my marketing career is understanding what the

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customer journey is. So the first touch point, you know,

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between you branding the customer all the way to the

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transaction and then even post transaction in regard to how

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do we retain this customer and then how do we

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upsell this customer. It's the same exact thing when it

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comes to college athletes. It's just you and I. We

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had a there was a certain customer journey or a

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player journey, let's call it. That. There's a certain player

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journey of guys that were underdeveloped like me, or guys

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that didn't have grades, whatever the case is, that had

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to go a certain route from from graduation in high

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school all the way to making it to the D

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one level. And so now you just got to that

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journey has changed. Right, So if I'm a high school

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player and I'm not a five star guy for whatever reason,

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and I now understand that this is the journey that

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I had to take. It's just it's just being able

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to adapt. So now I would recommend guys not to

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So if you're super underdeveloped, maybe like how I was, Like,

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I didn't go to Peter EATI I was eighteen, no life,

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no life at all. I ain't start getting hair on

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my test until I was twenty seven. That's how That's

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how laid I was right. So so somebody like me,

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I'm probably gonna go to the JC route because the

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JC like those as of now, those those years aren't

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getting counted for, right, so I can develop as a

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young man, get my grown man muscles, so to speak,

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and then still have four years if I'm a kid

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that is just under under recruited. But I'm ready. I

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had the skills, said, I have the athleticism, everything, all

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the intangible to get to a D one but I'm not.

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But but for whatever reason, I'm not getting those looks.

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I'll go double A, right, I'll go to I'll go

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to a Sack State or am Montana State or Montana,

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or I'll go to a Wyoming or a New Mexico,

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a very low end, you know, D one school, because

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that's the new JC. Right. Look, look who is the

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best example they were talking about right now with Kean

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Marrion right is at Miami right now playing for ne Samship.

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You know what I mean, Like you can go like that,

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that's the new route. So back in the day, it's like, man,

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I'm not I'm not going to San Diego State. I'm

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not going to Sack State like sike, I'm need to

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go D one. No no, no, no that Now the

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route is, I'll go to Utah State. No offense to Bronco,

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shouts to U Bronco, I love you. But I'll go

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to Utah State for a year or two, get developed

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and then being able to jump to a b y

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U or Utah Like that's like you look at Utah,

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Utah's quarterback right on New Mexico. Now is that Utah?

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Like that's the new route right there. And so I

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think it's just says as as analysts and guys that

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have played in the past, like you and I have,

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we have to understand that it's just a new route,

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right and don't matter how you get there is the

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pole point is getting there.

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Speaker 2: I want to transition here with you below the National

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Champion Chip game will be a little less than a

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week from now, Monday, five thirty pm Mountain Time on

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ESPN Miami versus Indiana, Number one versus Number ten, the

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fifteen to zero, Who's yours versus.

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Speaker 4: The thirteen and two Hurricanes? Who you picking? And why?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I got I'm gonna pick. I'm a pick Indiana.

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You know I've been. I've been saying this for the

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latter part of the season, that Indiana they they're doing something,

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something different, something great. A lot of those guys took

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the same route that I just talked about, the new route, right.

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A lot of them came from James Madison, under recruited

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for whatever reasons. And the head coach gets to Indiana,

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he brings those guys with him so that those guys play,

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they're playing with a chip on the shoulders. And you

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and I both know this been. You know, going that

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j C route and getting that internal motivation. It's one

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thing to get outside motivation, right, like like fans booing

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you or coaches under recruiting you. But it's another. It's

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a whole nother perspective when you had that chip on

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your shoulder that's created from within and and being overlooked,

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under recruited, not having the size that the talent or

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you know, the skill set on paper, and you start

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to build that internally. Man, that that that's that's a

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different type of tip that you have on your shoulder.

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And and I think that's what those guys have, and

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that's that's hard to stop you. Look at me. I

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had that same tip that I had that was built

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in turn. Really, man, nobody can stop me. I started

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being five to six. I still hold a couple of records. Humbly,

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I humbly say that. So Indiana, I'm yo, I'm rooting

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for Keylan Marian. That's my home. Yet I love everything

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he did for BYU and his story, but I gotta

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choose Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Do you think uh Indiana covers? Do you think they

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beat him by more than eight and a half? Is

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it more of a blowout like we've seen within these

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Indiana games.

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Speaker 3: I hope they do. I got a lot of money

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on it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, you picked Indiana to win, right,

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but did you pick Indiana to cover plus eight and

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a half?

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Speaker 3: Wits? Okay, ye yep, I did I think that. I

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think it's a blowout. I think it's a blowout man

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and here look, look, look you you know I'm the

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biggest conspiracy theorist ever. M hmm. I've been I've been here.

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I've been hearing some things and looking at some things.

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I think they I think they may be on to something.

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So I put a lot of money on it.

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Speaker 4: Mm hm.

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Speaker 2: So Signetti doing something like when you when you evaluate

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what Signetti's doing, like what stands out to you about

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their their their product, their talent, their coaching staff. Their

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roster was the seventy second most talented roster in college

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football this last year per two four seven. That's that's

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going against what a lot of people think is gonna

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win championships.

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Speaker 4: Your over year.

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Speaker 3: That's also why there's a strong argument that they're cheating.

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, what do you mean they're cheating? Oh? You

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you think they're cheating?

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say that. Okay, let me say that. I

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say that, I'm saying I'm saying that's a conspiracy out there, Okay.

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But to be to be honest with you, I think

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when you look at the roster and you look at

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how many guys that are starters, that are twenty three,

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you know, twenty four years years old. Think dude, think

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think about think about b y U and our rockster. Like,

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a lot of guys are mature, they're married, they got kids,

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and nobody's going out to the bars and to the

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clubs and to parties. Like everybody's going home to their wives,

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to their kids. They're doing homework, they're getting degrees, master degrees.

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Hope that everybody's focused. They're they're they're really truly focused.

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And and I think that that's the model right now

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is getting guys that are that are older, that are mature,

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that understand hindsight, because a lot of guys right now

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they go from school to school to school to school

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trying to get the bag. Where you got guys like

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on the Indiana roster that that's a you know what,

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if I stay here, stay put in the system that

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I know that and and and the vision and the

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mission that I see from the coach, I can get

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something that's more long term, right which is a potential

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NFL opportunity. I can go to the school or that

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school and increase you know, short term finances. But I

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think hindsight, it is something that a lot of these

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younger players, and I mean we just us as human beings,

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like individually, we don't start to really look at hindsight

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and decisions that we make long term until we get older.

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And so for this roster that is twenty three and

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twenty four year olds, they're seeing the hindsight right, they

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are understanding like, hey, you know, this bar has been

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here way before I was born. It's gonna be way,

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it's gonna be here way after I die. And so

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I only have this small little window on this small

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opportunity to maximize my potential, my talent to get to

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the next level. So I don't really care about that

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now when you think about that eighteen year old that's

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just coming out out of high school, I'm away from

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mom orway from dad for the first time. I got

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these five girls, the tear ladies looking at me, the

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crowd looking at me like I got millions of dollars

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in my pocket, Like I'm not. I'm just looking at

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the right now. And so I think I think that's

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really the biggest differ diference is getting guys on a

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roster that's that's more mature, and I would say more

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mature on a professional level, because that's how a lot

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of the NFL guys are right, like they have that

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maturity because they they they went through what they went

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through in college and their young years. They understand their

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mistakes and so now getting to the professional level, they're

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able to take on the spotlight. They're able to to

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to live life with millions of dollars in their pockets

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and not make bone the head decisions. Now you're taking

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those type of guys and they and now you're still

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placing them in college. So I think I think that's

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the biggest difference.

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Speaker 2: Bring up some valid points here, Brian Logan below the

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past breakup King, it was fantastic getting caught up with

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you and talking ball with you, and uh, we'll see

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who wins that that, daddy, and see if Indiana covers

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below much love.

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Speaker 3: You you got, you got who you got? Who are

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you picking?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm picking Indiana like.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the conspiracy theory, and you know I told

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I tell everyone I was in a conspiracy thereis Ronald

513
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,880
always pokes fun at me. I was in a conspiracy

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theorist till like twenty twenty, and it thanks the question

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00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,759
is an at the conspiracy Bear Bachmeyer on ESPN's websites

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listened at two twenty on BYU Football's rosteries listened at

517
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two thirty. But how much do you think he really weighs?

518
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What did he way at the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: Now he likes he's like two fifty. He's like two fifty,

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that's what that's a uh hey, hey, look look, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 4: Give you think do you think he's two fifty?

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna give you some inside information you guys. Look,

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you can say this, Hey on the fans, everybody that's listening,

524
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you could say this, just that you that you heard

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00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,240
it from me. I'm telling you right now, he's two fifty.

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I'm telling you there's.

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Speaker 4: Proof, there's provin he's two fifty.

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Speaker 3: Bro, I'm telling you he maybe two forty five, maybe

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towards the end for programming its chemishit mabe. I'm telling

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you right now. I can't tell you how I know,

531
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but just that I know.

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Speaker 4: Man, oh man, you think he's too fitting. You need

533
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at least at least two forty five.

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Speaker 3: Man, I don't think I know. I'm telling you I know. Hey, Hey,

535
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send you something. I'm gonna send you. I'm gona text you,

536
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I'm gonna send you something when we get off the phone.

537
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But you hear from me though you hate me.

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Speaker 4: Do you think it's the Do you think it's the

539
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bread pudding at Ruby River? You think that's what it is?

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Speaker 3: You do you do.

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Speaker 5: Hear his postgame interviews about his offensive lineman, how he'd

542
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be taking him out like like you're like, yeah, I'm

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about to get I'm about to get the old lines

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from some rice.

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Speaker 3: Christy Trees is a brownie man, He's.

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Speaker 4: Hey, man, you know what I think.

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Speaker 2: I think the more weight, the merrier man, because like

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I mean, I feel like I feel like more more weight, game,

549
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more power, you know what I mean? More I want

550
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,880
more arm strength, you know what I mean. A little

551
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bit more out of post tissue is gonna help him

552
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throw the ball.

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Speaker 3: Father man, hey man, bear, if you ever come across

554
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this interview, I appreciate everything that you've done for us,

555
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especially getting your situation gain as much way as you

556
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can until you can't move anymore. Like if that means

557
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once you start losing speed at two seventy, then go

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to two sixty nine and we get it.

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Speaker 4: Below. Brian Logan, Ladies and gentle I appreciate you, bro, Love.

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Speaker 3: You all right, bro, appreciate you love you too.

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Speaker 4: All right, There you have it. There you go. That

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was below that secred was brought.

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Speaker 6: To Hey, Ben, I just need to jump in. How

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many times do I tell you I like this conspiracy.

565
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I don't like all of them, but I like some

566
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of them. I'm telling you where we might get suspended

567
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from practice because the one day I'm gonna come with

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the scale and be like, step on the scale.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even getting.

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Speaker 6: Step on the scale real quick, steple scale, real quick,

571
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and it's gonna say like two two, and I'm gonna

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take the scale away and the rudd Blake beer ste

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no pads on step.

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Speaker 4: On the scale. Oh my goodness. I don't know if

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he's two fifty.

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Speaker 6: But look, guys, we don't try to ever call problems,

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but we do like to tell the truth, you know,

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honestly in our dealings with our fellow men. You can

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go download the interviews search Bear Bachmeyer. When we had

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him on, he's like, I'm I'm about two thirty five,

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That's what he told me. And Ben so he is

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a he's somewheed between two thirty five and two forty.

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Speaker 4: I think maybe he.

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Speaker 6: Lost five pounds. But Ben He's definitely a thicker dude. Look,

585
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I'm with you, eat more, get all the girth possible,

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make people regret one of the decisions because it looked

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last year. I know Smith's going to Michigan, but Smith

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is also on Bear's highlight tape because Bear was dragging

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him into the m zone.

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Speaker 2: I love big, burly, girthy Bear. That's who I love.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Any advantage to the weight game, Yes, power, power and

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throwing power and running baby, big fan of Bear Bachmeyer Kugarnation.

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