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Speaker 3: Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports
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Speaker 3: my booer Frinday, Monday, Mike, Mike, Mike Monday, Mike Monday,
Speaker 3: Mike Quinn and our guy Monday, Juan Mann.
Speaker 2: Yes, how's your day? Good? You have Manna, it's been manic? Okay, good,
Speaker 2: good teach it you. I do teach it to you.
Speaker 2: One of them. I don't know if I'm them. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like, what is what is that them? You're a week? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're we like what everybody else slips slip, We're we.
Speaker 2: I'm on the inside.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get to check this as Arizona. Yeah you know,
Speaker 2: it's like and I can throw myself as a fan.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can, and so can one. No yes, and
Speaker 2: no difference for about three more months. Yeah, so that
Speaker 2: you can't. I can that your man. Technically, I'm still
Speaker 2: a student. Okay.
Speaker 3: Well, then there's a little a little bit of a
Speaker 3: little bit of you're well, you're you're we we was
Speaker 3: pretty good on Saturday. I thought they.
Speaker 2: Whatever you want to you want to go on that
Speaker 2: they played their best game of the year to me, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you know, it's interesting because I think we
Speaker 2: said that last week too, uh.
Speaker 4: The year.
Speaker 2: And you read me? I mean you only did that
Speaker 2: is me. Yeah, I look for typos.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you he does because I get him.
Speaker 3: He is my editor, which I'm greatly appreciative. Every writer
Speaker 3: needs an editor. And thank you for you know, great story.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, however, how did you you know how
Speaker 3: was the play link?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, I said that in b YU last week.
Speaker 3: Great and I thought that was a great game on
Speaker 3: the road against a pretty good team.
Speaker 2: And then they upped it. Yeah, yeah, no, I think
Speaker 2: that they definitely did. I think that their their defense
Speaker 2: uh there there rebounding, which had been pretty suspect. Uh,
Speaker 2: their defense in the rebounding was outstanding. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You haven't seen too many games, but you have seen
Speaker 3: a lot of games, but you haven't seen a lot
Speaker 3: of games in person like this.
Speaker 2: Uh, Juan, And.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, I'm trying to see Uh give me,
Speaker 3: give me, uh give me calebs Love's best game, just
Speaker 3: stop top your head, best game since he's been here.
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure if I could do that. I
Speaker 2: know it's it's hard. He's had some thirty three point games. Yeah,
Speaker 2: organ was.
Speaker 3: That memorable, but I mean we can't even remember it now, right, No,
Speaker 3: let me say something. I won't forget the day Henry
Speaker 3: Vsar almost collapsed and he was fantastic. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, he was, he was great, He was beat.
Speaker 3: He looked like I could just take a nap for
Speaker 3: like a week.
Speaker 2: But it's one of those things where he kind of
Speaker 2: looked like he sensed he could take over this game,
Speaker 2: and he kind of did. He did. There was there
Speaker 2: were portions of that game that he took over.
Speaker 3: It was like in both it was like me walking
Speaker 3: up eight Mountain and you know, three quarters away and
Speaker 3: I've never gone three courts away. It just being Jolie said,
Speaker 3: what the hell am I doing here? I'm going to
Speaker 3: go back home, but he continued to walk.
Speaker 2: He did. He didn't you see that he was almost
Speaker 2: ready to fall down. You were there, he was, I didn't,
Speaker 2: I was, I was.
Speaker 5: I was preoccupied writing two different stories and tweets and
Speaker 5: memes and we'll.
Speaker 2: Get to that in a little bit. But he was
Speaker 2: to me, he was he was, he was winded, but boy,
Speaker 2: I tell you what, it was one of those things
Speaker 2: where he you could tell that he sensed that he
Speaker 2: was going to be a pivotal player in this game,
Speaker 2: and he was. And he came up.
Speaker 3: Big walking shots, having done in the court, shooting three
Speaker 3: and guess what if he's one A, Waka was one
Speaker 3: B because Waka was fantastic too.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. That's what I'm saying. On the boards.
Speaker 2: They were really playing them together, and I know that
Speaker 2: that was the one of the big storylines, like, no,
Speaker 2: were they ever going to play them together? They ever
Speaker 2: gonna play that. I don't know what he was waiting
Speaker 2: at for, uh. I know it was like, hey, when
Speaker 2: the gows to get hurt, it's you know, it's like going, hey,
Speaker 2: welcome to the ffeeded.
Speaker 3: It'd been fefeeded, actually very much. But he was like
Speaker 3: the I guess the woman with a chess era cat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here we go, our chance, here's our chance. Now's
Speaker 2: our chance. But it was it was it was his chance.
Speaker 2: And then they went in there and they absolutely dominated
Speaker 2: the glass against the team that is owned the pretty
Speaker 2: owned him on the glass in in uh in Lubbock.
Speaker 2: The it was, Yeah, it was really something I will
Speaker 2: say that you know, and and I and I commented
Speaker 2: on your article. Uh if if you could imagine a
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year writing an article saying
Speaker 2: that we beat one of the top teams in the
Speaker 2: Big Twelve this late in the season. Uh, and never
Speaker 2: once mentioning Caleblove's name. Uh, I didn't, Yeah, you didn't.
Speaker 2: You didn't mention And I went through it a couple
Speaker 2: of times, and it's like, and it is true. It
Speaker 2: was one of those things where it's like I do
Speaker 2: believe Caleb was was pressing. There was that one sequence
Speaker 2: where uh, we just kept getting in the offensive rebound,
Speaker 2: kicking it out. Caleb, you know, would throw it up
Speaker 2: again and drive to the basket, and throw it up
Speaker 2: and then drive to the basket. We had hit three
Speaker 2: maybe four shots in a row that looked like he
Speaker 2: was just like going, I just gotta make one of these.
Speaker 3: It's funny because in the final moments, final two three minutes,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 2: Uh it was on up by eight maybe and uh.
Speaker 3: They got an offensive rebound. They kicked it to your example,
Speaker 3: to to Caleb, and they could just pull the back.
Speaker 3: They could have pulled it back right, They're gonna have
Speaker 3: to follow him anyway. But he shot it with the
Speaker 3: shot clock maybe five seconds in. Yeah, and they could
Speaker 3: just pull it back and waste another thing. Caleb is
Speaker 3: never gonna do that. Caleb's gonna get Caleb's stuff. He
Speaker 3: was open to his credit, but.
Speaker 2: You yeah, your time, you're right, Yeah, And he's done
Speaker 2: that over and over again. I did that last year.
Speaker 2: We lost a couple league games, or games got a
Speaker 2: little tighter when it was one of those seas. Its
Speaker 2: like we gotta we gotta lead late and Caleb's throwing
Speaker 2: it up. You know, bring it and place your voice
Speaker 2: on the phone. So let's call it. Get it good. Hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the air. Nine the ball? Who's this?
Speaker 6: Hey, David John Jones? How you don't buy ten?
Speaker 2: John? What do you got?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: So a couple of things.
Speaker 6: First of all, when you play good defense and you
Speaker 6: rebound the ball and you make free throws, it gives
Speaker 6: you a chance to win a lot of basketball games.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And when you are.
Speaker 6: In a very competitive league, it really does come down
Speaker 6: or in the sweet sixteen. It comes down to the
Speaker 6: little things, and it comes down to making free throws.
Speaker 6: You know, I loved Ballo, but I didn't feel like
Speaker 6: you could win a championship with a guy that you
Speaker 6: either couldn't play late or you couldn't count on to
Speaker 6: make free throws. And right now, you know, watching the
Speaker 6: team the star. When I watched him the first two years,
Speaker 6: he was a step step and a half slow on defense.
Speaker 6: He couldn't rotate, and so you weren't able to challenge shots.
Speaker 6: And because he was late, that's why he to me,
Speaker 6: he wasn't getting playing time. You know, now he's anticipating better,
Speaker 6: he's in position, and he's a rim protector, and he's
Speaker 6: playing he's playing like a dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And when you have that, that to me the whole team.
Speaker 6: The resurgence of the team this year has been really
Speaker 6: contingent on on the play of our big guys, you know,
Speaker 6: and as far as the conference goes, what's impressed me,
Speaker 6: to be honest with you guys, is watching the physicality
Speaker 6: of our team. You know, I think when you listen
Speaker 6: like a fran Priscilla, you listen to whomever they thought
Speaker 6: we were going to get exposed for being soft coming
Speaker 6: from the week Pat twelve and watch us dominate physical games.
Speaker 6: It's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3: Well, John, come on, realistically, I know you watched a
Speaker 3: lot of games.
Speaker 2: You've been around a long time. Didn't you think the
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 6: No, to be honest with you, like I saw, there's
Speaker 6: what I noticed when he had Kerr, Krisa and the Europeans,
Speaker 6: we were soft. And when we when we played like
Speaker 6: Houston in the tournament, we got exposed for being soft.
Speaker 6: And I feel like when he brought in Jayden and
Speaker 6: kJ Lewis you know, love loves an enigma man like
Speaker 6: to what What what I saw is that we can
Speaker 6: win games in spite of love and not that he
Speaker 6: has to play well for us to win that collectively
Speaker 6: we're getting. We're getting good effort from a walk Waker
Speaker 6: is playing like a he's playing great. Carter Bryant is challenging.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, Steve, like I thought that
Speaker 6: we addressed getting tougher at the guards, and that's where.
Speaker 2: We were getting beat.
Speaker 6: Like Kerr wouldn't be able to stack up against text
Speaker 6: attach he would have gotten beating like a drum. The
Speaker 6: entire game. Number three would have went by him all game.
Speaker 6: And so to me, like, I feel like we're in
Speaker 6: a better position to defend than we've been in a
Speaker 6: long time, and playing in this conference. You know, we'll
Speaker 6: find out where we're at against Houston, but we're going
Speaker 6: toe to toe against you know, very physical teams.
Speaker 2: And we're going to blow for blow with them.
Speaker 6: And that that's what's impressed me the most with this
Speaker 6: team out of everything. That and and VS are taking
Speaker 6: a huge step forward.
Speaker 2: John, I think I think you hit the nail and
Speaker 2: headed when you said the word confidence. Okay, these guys,
Speaker 2: especially when you're talking about VS. Are he goes out
Speaker 2: there and he's playing with confidence, and it's like just
Speaker 2: turned the game around. I mean, he's out there, can
Speaker 2: make it. Everybody's yeah, yeah, they have, And I think
Speaker 2: a lot of it again with John, you know, agreeing
Speaker 2: with John said is like going they're doing it. They're
Speaker 2: looking they've been looking at Caleb, they've been looking at
Speaker 2: him to be the one. They realize, Looksten, we can
Speaker 2: do this too. And I think they're playing with a
Speaker 2: lot more confidence making a difference. Okay, we got to go.
Speaker 3: Thanks man, Thanks Thanks John, Thanks yeah, we agree.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: I think I think, like we said, confidence is what's
Speaker 5: what's helping this team right now. And they they even
Speaker 5: if they're down ten early or ten ten midway through
Speaker 5: the game, they don't look phazed at all right now.
Speaker 3: But they haven't been I mean, they haven't been ten.
Speaker 3: They haven't been down. I think we'll know tomorrow. Here's
Speaker 3: my thing, and I'll be totally honest and transparent with me.
Speaker 3: I haven't been I hadn't been impressed is not the word.
Speaker 3: I think they just hadn't played anybody for a while
Speaker 3: here in this in this streak. Well, they beat Baylor,
Speaker 3: so that was okay, that was a guy. And but
Speaker 3: they beat them at home it was like asterisk okay.
Speaker 3: And then they then they went on the road and
Speaker 3: they beat buy U.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I thought they'd lose that game. I think, did you say, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: So so they win. I'm thinking, okay, maybe I've been
Speaker 3: a little you know, skewed here. And then they played
Speaker 3: Texas Tech. I thought they would win. In fact, I
Speaker 3: thought they would win by bird ten and and I've
Speaker 3: told it on the show, I think, and and then
Speaker 3: but how they beat them, it was it was great
Speaker 3: because they played physical and they didn't get you know,
Speaker 3: they get punched, and they'd come back and it was
Speaker 3: very impressive. So I've gone from maybe a four believer
Speaker 3: to like a seven believer. Now they played tomorrow, Even
Speaker 3: if they win or lose, it's tough to win on
Speaker 3: the road.
Speaker 2: I'll stay at seven. And if they beat.
Speaker 3: Houston at home, okay, maybe an eight because Houston's good.
Speaker 3: But guess where the game is. That's here in the
Speaker 3: security blanket of Michael. But but that shouldn't excuse me.
Speaker 3: So even if they played well or whatever, eight and
Speaker 3: then guess what happens. We're gonna turn to March here
Speaker 3: pretty quick. All bets are off, baby, yeah, off, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean it's all one and done because oh, we
Speaker 3: beat Houston or we beat what does that mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't mean it.
Speaker 3: Last year when they were beating people like crazy when
Speaker 3: they came to Pleasant, what.
Speaker 2: Did it mean? Not a damn thing. Yeah, but you
Speaker 2: know that. The other thing, I think that they were
Speaker 2: beating a lot of nobody's in the packast last year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: last year they were. Yeah, I think they're beating somebody's.
Speaker 2: I think that they're now I think there are people there.
Speaker 2: I think the big twelves are going to have some
Speaker 2: teams that are gonna win some games in the tournament.
Speaker 3: Well didn't you think this when we started the season
Speaker 3: watching these guys and there were four or five or whatever,
Speaker 3: And we said it on nauseum with Bruce and everybody
Speaker 3: else that at some point or no, no, entering into
Speaker 3: the conference was going to be a perfect remedy for
Speaker 3: being tougher later on. Guess what, Well, sure, and it's happening.
Speaker 3: It is because it has to happen.
Speaker 2: Right right, You're not gonna get through this, you know,
Speaker 2: and and and not be tougher. Right, Okay, you don't
Speaker 2: get punched in the mouth in the in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 2: You know, everyone pats themselves on the back in the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve and then you get and you get done.
Speaker 2: But in this conference you're gonna get punching them mouth
Speaker 2: all the time. You got to keep doing it.
Speaker 3: And and you see it when you're not tweeting and
Speaker 3: you're up right, how much the refs let it go?
Speaker 2: They do, yeah, which is which is a good thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, because they will they're not gonna try
Speaker 2: and follow people wish you on the cherry. You know,
Speaker 2: you use a two shot foul and you get the
Speaker 2: ball back. Yeah. Here it's like play yeah exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, no blood, no foul. Yeah. But I will
Speaker 2: tell you the difference. There's a definitely the difference between this,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously a difference between this team at four
Speaker 2: and five and then what they are now. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And I think I think what it was, and I think,
Speaker 2: you know, I mentioned it before, but it's like I
Speaker 2: think at four and five, this team was like looking
Speaker 2: at Caleb, you know, they were standing there looking at
Speaker 2: Caleb to do something. Yeah, And then I think not
Speaker 2: so much that they're like going, well, we don't need Caleb.
Speaker 2: They absolutely need Caleb, Okay, but there are other people
Speaker 2: that are like, hey, i'm pretty good too, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: if we play together, then we're gonna be pretty good.
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera, He's got his eye on the ball on
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Whying the Ball Here at Fox
Speaker 3: Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, and today with Mike
Speaker 3: Quinn now on the phone, we have Arnie Green from
Speaker 3: the Topeka Capital Journal.
Speaker 2: How are you doing, Arnie good?
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 3: We're doing fine. Thanks for joining us. Let me ask
Speaker 3: you a quick question just for perspective. How long have
Speaker 3: you covered Kansas State and the league?
Speaker 18: Uh, actually sort of off and on since nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 18: but the last pretty much full time in the last
Speaker 18: five years.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you I asked because you're a Caju veteran
Speaker 3: of just what goes on in the league. And we
Speaker 3: all know because we've seen from afar it's a great
Speaker 3: basketball league, of physical basketball league, and it's nothing's really
Speaker 3: changed from our end because it's exactly that.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I had even more good team with Arizona and
Speaker 18: obviously Houston last year and and pretty much every all
Speaker 18: of them that they've added our quality teams. So it's
Speaker 18: done nothing but made the league stronger.
Speaker 3: I think what's been what's been the rising the success
Speaker 3: of Kansas State lately?
Speaker 15: If I have in a row, well, UH.
Speaker 18: I kind of looked into those numbers because I was
Speaker 18: I was kind of curious myself because this is kind
Speaker 18: of the team I think people envisioned when at the
Speaker 18: start of the season there was a lot of talent,
Speaker 18: but they're just there was really just one player. David
Speaker 18: Gasson was really the only player that had had played
Speaker 18: meaningful minutes for k State, and pretty much of the
Speaker 18: returning guys the only one right now that's contributing. So
Speaker 18: I think it just has taken. It takes some teams,
Speaker 18: I guess a little bit longer to to gel and
Speaker 18: I think part of it is they're just now figuring
Speaker 18: things out. But that's the thing with with the transfer
Speaker 18: portal and everything. It just different teams, I guess figure
Speaker 18: it out it at different times, and it's taken this
Speaker 18: it's definitely taken a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you guys, guys, and then Kansas State
Speaker 3: UH plays the rival Kansas. UH does very well against
Speaker 3: it is Kansas. This is I don't want to knock anything.
Speaker 3: Are they just not as good as they used to
Speaker 3: be or Kansas play out of its mind or both?
Speaker 18: They're not They're not as good as some of these
Speaker 18: the Kansas teams I think of recent years.
Speaker 15: I think they're they're.
Speaker 18: Going through maybe some of the same things. They have
Speaker 18: a few more guys back, but it seems like getting
Speaker 18: their their pieces to fit has been been a struggle.
Speaker 18: This is just watching This doesn't look like a typical
Speaker 18: bill Self team.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then Kansas State, of course is playing very, very
Speaker 3: very over well, so up their game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So outside of the guy you mentioned, what else
Speaker 2: is working.
Speaker 15: Well? They're shooting the ball a lot better.
Speaker 18: I look through the five game winning streak, they're shooting
Speaker 18: forty eight percent.
Speaker 15: Overall, whereas in overall.
Speaker 18: For the in their twelve league games, they're shooting forty
Speaker 18: five percent, and they've up there three point shooting to
Speaker 18: forty three percent over the five games, and it was
Speaker 18: at thirty five percent for the whole for all the
Speaker 18: league games.
Speaker 15: So that's that's.
Speaker 18: Been one thing is they're they're shooting the ball better.
Speaker 18: They've turned the ball over a little bit less. They're
Speaker 18: they've been better in transition, which had been a problem
Speaker 18: all season.
Speaker 15: Uh, basically turnovers.
Speaker 18: They were losing the the points off turnover ball and
Speaker 18: they've been winning that lately.
Speaker 15: Just basically playing better all around.
Speaker 18: Also, Joam Tang. I think has shortened as bench quite
Speaker 18: a bit. Really, there's only six seven guys now that
Speaker 18: are are playing playing a lot of minutes. I think
Speaker 18: only one of the subs is averaging double figures in minutes.
Speaker 18: So the question is whether they can sustain that with
Speaker 18: with the with the short bench. They've had a few
Speaker 18: guys occasionally step in and do some good things, but
Speaker 18: all five of their starters now are averaging and double figures.
Speaker 18: But really they're not getting a whole lot consistently from.
Speaker 15: Anyone else other than C. J.
Speaker 18: Jones who started at point guard early in the season.
Speaker 2: They seem to have really balanced scoring as you mentioned.
Speaker 2: I mean everyone has been in double figures in this
Speaker 2: in this streak. The uh, I mean, where's the strength?
Speaker 2: Is there a strength in the you know the in
Speaker 2: the front court? They are they really good at the guards.
Speaker 2: Where's the strength of this team? And how do you
Speaker 2: think to follow on, how do you think that matches
Speaker 2: up with Arizona.
Speaker 18: I haven't seen Arizona a whole lot. I think it's
Speaker 18: just the way the way Arizona plays, it looks like
Speaker 18: it's not They don't go very big to start with.
Speaker 15: That should that should be a pretty good matchup case
Speaker 15: state they have probably there.
Speaker 18: I'd say the biggest difference has been the play of
Speaker 18: when Doug McDaniel, who was a Michigan transfer, he took
Speaker 18: over as the starting point guard I think for the
Speaker 18: first league game, and he's really been playing well. And
Speaker 18: then Coleman Hawkins, the transfer from Illinois.
Speaker 15: It's a six ' ten guy who is averaging.
Speaker 18: Between I think about four and a half five assists
Speaker 18: per game. He's not a huge scorer, but he is
Speaker 18: leading him and scoring during league play, and that he
Speaker 18: works really well with Gasan, who's about six eight six '.
Speaker 15: Nine, is more of a more of a low post guy.
Speaker 18: That he's such a good passer that that it's given
Speaker 18: Gason a lot of opportunities. We're talking and then, uh,
Speaker 18: I was gonna say, Brendon hasen Villanova transfer. If he
Speaker 18: gets going, he's a streaky three point shooter. But if
Speaker 18: he gets going, uh, look out.
Speaker 3: So I'll ask about Colin. We have a columnist coming
Speaker 3: in the next hour, but let me ask you this too.
Speaker 3: We're talking to Ernie Green from the Topeka Capitol Journal.
Speaker 3: Since you've covered the league a while now, and the
Speaker 3: team you say a coach is bringing the the uh,
Speaker 3: the roster down to about six or seven to play.
Speaker 3: Arizona's doing the same thing. How do they sustain this
Speaker 3: because it's so physical and it's not easy. It's not
Speaker 3: an easy physical, it's a tough physical. By the time
Speaker 3: March comes around.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think that's going to be the big question
Speaker 18: is whether they can whether they can play those kinds
Speaker 18: of minutes and.
Speaker 15: Keep it going that right now.
Speaker 18: Other than during the streak, the only close game they
Speaker 18: had was Arizona at Arizona State.
Speaker 15: I mean they've won the KU game the other day.
Speaker 18: It's an eight point game, but it was fifteen points late,
Speaker 18: so we made a little bit of a run. So
Speaker 18: they've really kind of dominated during the stretch, which you
Speaker 18: didn't see, and then they found a way to win
Speaker 18: at Arizona State.
Speaker 15: Not helped that.
Speaker 18: Arizona State miss missed two free throws at the end,
Speaker 18: but I mean those are the kind of games they
Speaker 18: were losing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, early on, So you guys are well are you
Speaker 3: guys because you're not part of the team, but three
Speaker 3: eleven and ten or twelve and eleven's like that.
Speaker 18: Twelve and eleven, No, that's their first time above five
Speaker 18: hundred since I think since in Gen. I'm trying to
Speaker 18: think if it was in December or January.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you because I heard I was
Speaker 3: watching some of the highlights stuff from the weekend and
Speaker 3: now because you guys they're playing so well five and
Speaker 3: zero in the last five that people are talking NC
Speaker 3: Double A tournament.
Speaker 18: Yeah, we've asked them, and we also asked Bill self
Speaker 18: about that afterwards what he and basically, they've dug themselves
Speaker 18: quite a hole. I mean, if they can keep playing
Speaker 18: at this level, they have a chance, but they're gonna
Speaker 18: have They're at twelve and eleven. They definitely got some
Speaker 18: work to do if they can keep keep it up there.
Speaker 18: Definitely playing well enough. As Jang said, he thinks they
Speaker 18: could win games in the NC Double A tournament.
Speaker 15: But yeah, right now, resume is not there yet.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Another thing, Arizona was rocking on Saturday night. It usually
Speaker 3: does for big games, and Texas Tech was a big game.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that place is going to rock on tomorrow, right.
Speaker 18: It'll be interesting to see because really the Kansas game
Speaker 18: was their first sellout of the season. Because they they
Speaker 18: have struggled and especially with weak night games.
Speaker 15: I'm guessing it was.
Speaker 18: It was really loud Saturday, and I'm I mean in
Speaker 18: the past they have been. I'm guessing with Arizona's what
Speaker 18: a six game winning streak, and they're arguably the hottest
Speaker 18: team in the country right now. It'll be interesting to
Speaker 18: see if if the fans turn on. I'm sure with
Speaker 18: the students will because they've I think they've definitely bought in.
Speaker 18: But part of the problem with with Kansas State is
Speaker 18: you've got where they're located. They really count on people
Speaker 18: from out of town. And also we've got looks like
Speaker 18: snow in the forecast starting tomorrow night, so that may
Speaker 18: keep some people home, but.
Speaker 15: I would expect it to be a pretty good crowd.
Speaker 2: So are these are I'm sure to interrupted, But are
Speaker 2: these new teams Arizona this year, He's last year. Are
Speaker 2: they still kind of considered strangers, kind of coming to
Speaker 2: dinner or is it you kind of sense the Big
Speaker 2: twelve ish rivalry already?
Speaker 18: Well, I don't know that they've developed any specific rivalries yet.
Speaker 18: It's kind of early for that, but I think I
Speaker 18: think people are excited about having the new teams.
Speaker 15: And then of course Texas and.
Speaker 18: Oklahoma leaving who have been in the league for long since,
Speaker 18: well Oklahoma way longer, but since Texas since the Big
Speaker 18: twelve for him in ninety six.
Speaker 3: So you you you covered the way you've been there
Speaker 3: since ninety eight. I can't remember. Arizona hasn't played these
Speaker 3: guys too much. I remember covering him in the late
Speaker 3: maybe ninety nine, two thousands, Tom Tom something Tom. He
Speaker 3: was a big coach, Tom maybe mar Berry. What's his name,
Speaker 3: tom Asbury Asbury Asbury?
Speaker 15: Oh that was now we're going backways.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it was a good guy. It turned out
Speaker 3: to be a friend of mine. He was helping with
Speaker 3: officials here. I guess in twenty fourteen Kansas State played
Speaker 3: the issue, so the juve, so the rivalry, the meetings
Speaker 3: haven't been much.
Speaker 18: No, that was the only In fact, I think that's
Speaker 18: the only one in this millennium, because I think before
Speaker 18: before that, the last game I think was ninety nine.
Speaker 15: I looked at up.
Speaker 2: That must have been the tom asbro Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 18: But I think what they played in Maui and uh
Speaker 18: two thousand and fourteen. I think he brought them in
Speaker 18: ninety that was yeah, and that was the year. I
Speaker 18: don't think I was covering them, so.
Speaker 3: Right, okay, so before you go, what do you think
Speaker 3: is gonna happen tomorrow? Give me a prediction if you
Speaker 3: got one in you.
Speaker 18: I did, Yeah, I did my prediction for my story earlier,
Speaker 18: and I picked. I picked Arizona by five, I think
Speaker 18: like seventy eight to seventy three or something. Now I'm
Speaker 18: starting to become a believer in this case state team.
Speaker 18: But I think Arizona has showed over a longer stretch.
Speaker 18: Plus I think maybe I don't it looked like their
Speaker 18: non conference schedule, they didn't look their record wasn't that
Speaker 18: good that I've got to think that really toughen them
Speaker 18: up for this league because they've just run right through
Speaker 18: the through this league and I don't see any real
Speaker 18: sign of them.
Speaker 3: Well, I applaud you because you're a true journalist, not
Speaker 3: going on not am not a homer one because I'm
Speaker 3: the same wait with Arizona. I've covered the team since
Speaker 3: in ninety one as a journalist. Now I'm on the
Speaker 3: radio and I'm not a believer of this Arizona team.
Speaker 3: Although I'm headed in that direction, I guess, and like
Speaker 3: I say, well no, in March because that's when it
Speaker 3: all matters, like at Kansas, it all matters in March.
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, I think this would definitely If Case State can,
Speaker 18: I would consider it's still an upset if they can.
Speaker 18: If they can win this game, then that would definitely
Speaker 18: help their resume. I do know that three of their
Speaker 18: five games during the streak have come against the wins
Speaker 18: that come against ranked teams or teams that were ranked
Speaker 18: at the time. West Virginia, Iowa States still up there,
Speaker 18: and then Kansas. They have played played well against some
Speaker 18: pretty decent teams. But I just don't know that they've
Speaker 18: come up against the likes of Arizona.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you appreciate your time, good luck, stay warm
Speaker 3: over there, and we'll see what happens tomorrow.
Speaker 15: Okay, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Thanks, I appreciate good stuff. I'm not too sure he
Speaker 3: doesn't believe it. And then but they're five, and they're five,
Speaker 3: and oh the last five Arizona is what they are?
Speaker 3: Seven and the last seven. Yeah, it should be a
Speaker 3: fun game. It's gonna be crazy, yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: not gonna be a pushover. I mean, you know, if
Speaker 3: you'd asked us a couple of weeks ago, this would
Speaker 3: be like a nothing game.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like this really is a it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a tough one. I think it away out snowstorm
Speaker 2: to keep people away. Probably probably, I mean darkness. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Arizona people. Well, that's Manhattan. Kansas is not like Manhattan,
Speaker 2: New York. It's not Manhattan, New York. It's definitely not Manhattan,
Speaker 2: New York. Right, you got to count on the people
Speaker 2: out of town. Oh yeah, I've been to Manhattan, Kansas
Speaker 2: and tell I think I've driven through to get to Lawrence.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you know, it's like different. No,
Speaker 2: they're there, big hotel is like the Fairmont Airfield, you know,
Speaker 2: in sweets. Uh, you know, I mean good hard working people.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to say that things about
Speaker 2: my hand Kansas, but they're not a lot there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: okay except for college basketball. College basketball. Now there is
Speaker 2: college basketball there, you know, and you got the big
Speaker 2: red one fort Rally, But for Riley, Kansas is there.
Speaker 2: I think it's still named for Rally or it will
Speaker 2: be again, Uh, depends on how things going. We don't
Speaker 2: want to get into that. That's opening up a very
Speaker 2: different can of worms. But but you know, you said,
Speaker 2: there's you gotta try, Like he said, you got to
Speaker 2: travel in there to to get there. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they're going to be That's what I was kind
Speaker 2: of trying to get at. I don't I don't see
Speaker 2: the passion for people to race in a snowy night
Speaker 2: to get to.
Speaker 3: They They did a Cincinnati and West Virginia the same issue.
Speaker 3: There was a really bad weather and Mildred this watching
Speaker 3: from home that paps beer and give it to Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, hey, okay, yeah, Arizona's a good team,
Speaker 2: but you know, we'll watch them in March. You know,
Speaker 2: that was kind of interesting thing.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen Kansas Cate either that much, but he
Speaker 3: hadn't seen Arizona And yeah, I got a stamp ten
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the uses and os. This is I
Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back towing the ball here at Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty Im Si Vera and today with me is.
Speaker 2: Look talkative Mike Quinn. Yeah, it's it's like, hey, you're
Speaker 2: not saying anything. Hey, you're saying too much. You need
Speaker 2: to be the just right person. Yeah, that's why I
Speaker 2: have one. Was exactly whin to talk because I give
Speaker 2: him the God Yeah, exactly exactly. He's open for a
Speaker 2: little bit of Well when I first got here, I
Speaker 2: never got I never got the high sign and it
Speaker 2: was never my turn.
Speaker 5: It was like he needs the Goldie LI likes not
Speaker 5: too too had to yes, right, beauty sleep over here.
Speaker 3: Yes, Hey, if you guys want to call and kind
Speaker 3: of eat up our time, that's why too five two, four, one, six,
Speaker 3: seventy four forty Uh. We already have John come in
Speaker 3: with a pretty good call at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts on the win on Saturday night, What a
Speaker 3: great game. The crowd is rocking, man, crowd is rocking
Speaker 3: and the Texas Tech coach, Uh said exactly that. I
Speaker 3: thought he was spot on. I thought he was very
Speaker 3: great with his insight too. Oh yeah, and very gracious loser.
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of of the coaches that
Speaker 5: I've come to, Michael Ye have said that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think this is the first time it actually
Speaker 2: had merit to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I mean it was even with the the fire,
Speaker 5: the fire panic alarm or whatever that happened pregame, and
Speaker 5: that crowd was ready to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they stood that entire I think it was a
Speaker 2: ten minute delay, it was, it was. It was a
Speaker 2: good night. Yeah. Yeah, I heard the coach was pretty good, gracious, gracious, Yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah he was. Uh he was in in our grill.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Hey, you and I and the ball who
Speaker 2: is this? Yeah?
Speaker 4: And Henry uh Howard and Steve Trust.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Because I was listening to Jefferies make the call
Speaker 4: because I don't watch it on TV.
Speaker 6: Is I don't get it at home?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he goes he's averaging ten points. I'm already predicted
Speaker 4: he's good by the end of a conference plays in
Speaker 4: me averaging over thirteen and that was before the last game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, he's fantastic. If you didn't see it, I don't
Speaker 3: know how how Brian.
Speaker 4: Didn't he dumped, he dumped. I know, he got a
Speaker 4: couple of dumb No.
Speaker 3: How did he describe how he was playing, because he
Speaker 3: was playing out of his mind?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just said he got a couple of days
Speaker 4: Henry gets the ball, don't say, oh slams at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was fantastic.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't but I don't know if you
Speaker 3: can sustain it, because he had he had been very
Speaker 3: good and then he wasn't for a while and now
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 4: But you because I got the before even played, I
Speaker 4: got the scouting report from you, Steve and and the
Speaker 4: and the like that he was. You know, he was
Speaker 4: a highly recruited guy. He was supposed to be pretty good.
Speaker 4: But if you you know, I always talked to Jay
Speaker 4: and you, the big guys just take.
Speaker 2: A while to get going. A lot of these Euros.
Speaker 4: They have they play a lot more involved and and
Speaker 4: you know, on a.
Speaker 2: Higher level than than you know.
Speaker 4: Then the high schools can provide here in the States.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Vic kind of texted me about this too when I
Speaker 3: first saw Henry and I spoke to him at the
Speaker 3: media day, and you can see him play, and you
Speaker 3: can see him move. He had a lot of fluidity.
Speaker 3: He could run run the court very well. He had
Speaker 3: a lot of skills. If you remember, I haven't written
Speaker 3: the story because I don't know if it's out there,
Speaker 3: but when he was younger, when he was younger, had
Speaker 3: to be about twelve thirteen, he's he was a smaller dude,
Speaker 3: and then he had this huge gold spurt, so he
Speaker 3: had to learn how to handle the ball.
Speaker 2: He was a gardish yeah.
Speaker 3: And and and then then all of a sudden he
Speaker 3: became this seven footer and so he had those skills.
Speaker 2: So he handles it all well. He's very mobile around
Speaker 2: the basket. He's just a dude, yep.
Speaker 6: And Vic's saying he really likes I remember last week
Speaker 6: when he was saying it that I was mentioning to
Speaker 6: you and Jay on Friday that Vick says, yeah, he's
Speaker 6: got to get the ball underneath and gunk and blah
Speaker 6: blah blah. We know he's doing that, but how what
Speaker 6: Howard says? And of course Steve could be Yeah, if
Speaker 6: he hits those threes, it's always gravy and he's a
Speaker 6: lot of games, he said, five hundred percent because he
Speaker 6: only takes.
Speaker 2: Two or one.
Speaker 4: Thousand percent because he only takes one and hits it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so and that's that's that's pretty doable. He doesn't need
Speaker 4: to take more than that.
Speaker 3: Sure, Sure, it's just the time and circumstances of those three.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 4: And I think he's only going to get take some
Speaker 4: more shots and you warm ups and practice, and I
Speaker 4: think he'll be good, well off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, thanks for going to the show on Friday
Speaker 3: for a show at the Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because hey, Vick, we missed you. I was expecting
Speaker 4: to see you there.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, thanks, all right, appreciate it takes the call. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think part of the thing too is ugo. We
Speaker 3: got another call? Cool, Hello, you're on the air.
Speaker 2: Nine on the ball. Who's this?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 15: This is Frank.
Speaker 20: Can you hear me in the car?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hey Frank? Hey Frank?
Speaker 6: Hey, Well is that real?
Speaker 15: The what is it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 20: Eight victories?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Seven, ten, ten and the big twelve?
Speaker 20: I don't know, is it real?
Speaker 2: How does it feel? How does it feel?
Speaker 20: It feels unreal? After the how they started and uh,
Speaker 20: and you know we down this road before Usually it's
Speaker 20: the other way around that they win, you know, ten
Speaker 20: or twelve games, you know, unscathed. Uh, and then and
Speaker 20: then they go into a dump.
Speaker 2: So I like it.
Speaker 20: I'm gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 3: So you believe in this team, I mean, are you you?
Speaker 3: Are you a believer?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 20: I don't know that I'm believer when I've been when
Speaker 20: we get to the n c A. As you know,
Speaker 20: we've been down this most too many times. So uh,
Speaker 20: they say they still rely too much on the three pointier.
Speaker 20: When the three pointers out there there, they can be
Speaker 20: a little lost, and uh, luckily they've recovered and won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see what happens. You know, you sound
Speaker 3: like jam the football program. You've been sneaking enough times.
Speaker 3: You're not too shy about or not too keen about
Speaker 3: following them.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 20: You know one thing earlier worried about. It seems like
Speaker 20: I cleaned it up a little bit was the beginn
Speaker 20: bounds pass, you know after a made basket. They were
Speaker 20: having a lot of time with that, a lot of
Speaker 20: trouble with that. So I hope that they've they've solved
Speaker 20: that problem because that's gonna hurt of if they get
Speaker 20: the other team gets a few steals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what happens. Yeah, okay, thanks Frank, thanks
Speaker 3: for calling. Appreciate it.
Speaker 20: Frank, you take care, Take care.
Speaker 16: Bye.
Speaker 3: Anybody else want to call? We saf some time? Right,
Speaker 3: we had about five minutes. You know, we can go
Speaker 3: to the end of the hour. I didn't realize this.
Speaker 3: We can go as long as we want, but that
Speaker 3: time takes up on the top ends, so you know,
Speaker 3: same time, I guess. Yeah, okay again, if you'd like
Speaker 3: to call five two oh four one, six seventy four
Speaker 3: forty Big game tomorrow. Kind of reviewing Saturday's game, I'm
Speaker 3: kind of like doing looking forward and looking back as well.
Speaker 3: But I was thinking, this is one of those games,
Speaker 3: like Tuesday Nights games where everybody had a hand in it.
Speaker 3: Like you said, I didn't mention love, and all the
Speaker 3: other hands were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no they were. I mean, and you you
Speaker 2: could see it there. It's like everybody's stepping up and
Speaker 2: uh and making pleasure. I will tell you some right now.
Speaker 2: This team has been running on a waka, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's his energy, his energy, the fact that
Speaker 2: like underneath you know, you can kind of him getting
Speaker 2: a board uh, get the hell out of the way.
Speaker 2: I'm coming in. Yeah, it's it really is one of
Speaker 2: those things where you sit there and it's like you,
Speaker 2: you know, hopes are down and then there's a waka,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really something else. You gotta call who's this?
Speaker 3: We don't if you want to call back, please, we do.
Speaker 2: Gotta go. Who's this?
Speaker 7: Vic?
Speaker 2: What's the one issed you Friday? Obviously you heard.
Speaker 21: How I know? Man, I just couldn't make it down there.
Speaker 21: I definitely get down to the next one though, when
Speaker 21: you have it.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's you one of your thoughts?
Speaker 21: So my thoughts are and this is a Twitter pool
Speaker 21: question for you, Steve and Mike. What's a bigger Advantag's
Speaker 21: the Crevious injury or the Gayden Delora injury.
Speaker 2: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd say the Delora the Delora, Yeah, because that
Speaker 3: kind of transformed the whole program.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you.
Speaker 3: And we won't know we won't know the results of
Speaker 3: the Creevious thing until you know, six weeks, seven weeks,
Speaker 3: whatever weeks.
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's very true. But uh hey, but I'm gonna
Speaker 21: tell you. I'm gonna give you props again. You called
Speaker 21: it that over a year ago. You said Henry was
Speaker 21: a stud and and it's come to fruition.
Speaker 18: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy.
Speaker 3: You know, I even asked you and the press commas
Speaker 3: and I said, how do you how do you have
Speaker 3: this seven foot string.
Speaker 2: Bean become a beast? Because I walk is beast.
Speaker 3: But Henry was a big, thin beast Saturday night.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 21: But see he's dunking everything. He I mean, we haven't
Speaker 21: had a guy that's gone to the ring dunk stuff
Speaker 21: like that for a long long time.
Speaker 3: And I didn't even tell you maybe maybe and he
Speaker 3: was just this thing was Lauren Woods.
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, probably exactly. I'll tell you what that another
Speaker 7: guy laying it up, even bollow a strong and he
Speaker 7: was would lay it up and get swatted.
Speaker 2: And yeah it'll fall down. He fall down up. Yeah
Speaker 2: that time. That the time that he reaches out and
Speaker 2: slams it, you know, I mean that stepping like what
Speaker 2: did I call him stretch armstrong, which was a great,
Speaker 2: great reference unfortunately was on Twitter and no one read
Speaker 2: it the as we were mentioning. But Vic, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's he's he he he goes to dunk
Speaker 2: the ball. I mean, O, what a what a concept
Speaker 2: for a seven footer. You know, it's like he's not
Speaker 2: playing games, he's making the basket exactly so.
Speaker 21: And then see if you asked about what's been the turnaround,
Speaker 21: and everybody said everything from love to Tommy. But the
Speaker 21: biggest thing is that previous injury and Henry coming into
Speaker 21: his own.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, you're right.
Speaker 3: I mean certain things happened for a reason, right, and
Speaker 3: this may have happened.
Speaker 2: For a reason.
Speaker 21: Yeah. So, but great show.
Speaker 6: Man, you guys later.
Speaker 2: Thanks about that. Thanks.
Speaker 3: We might know. No more calls. We've got about two minutes,
Speaker 3: three minutes. If you guys want to call, we got
Speaker 3: one more quick call in. If not, you can call
Speaker 3: us on the other side of the hour. We have
Speaker 3: breaking news. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 3: We ain't even talked about.
Speaker 2: Na say, it's like anything else happened this weekend. This
Speaker 2: is a local show man, this little it is local. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know the super Bowl, It's like when it's is everything.
Speaker 2: How many times did they say America and that super
Speaker 2: Bowl in the in the lead up. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you watch the My wife watched the four and
Speaker 2: a half hour lead up to that thing. It's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, yeah, more than sport. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: more than Taylor Swift. Yeah, okay, no, it didn't count anyway. Okay, yeah, no, no.
Speaker 3: If you want to listen to the other stuff, the
Speaker 3: super Bowl, that's another channel. Yeah something, we're local late breaking.
Speaker 3: We are, so we have a late breaking, we have
Speaker 3: break your News by Juan and then we're gonna have
Speaker 3: Michael lev at the other side.
Speaker 2: You know. He said we sat.
Speaker 3: Next to each other for the game, we think alike,
Speaker 3: which is kind of scary. I didn't read this call slowly.
Speaker 3: I typed this slowly because I know you read slowly. Okay,
Speaker 3: let's go before I insult you.
Speaker 15: Boy.
Speaker 4: Yes,