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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, what is going on? And welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>WWE Rivalries on the WWE Podcast. It's Friday, October sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>As we are just blazing through the fall here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the NHL wrapped up, the NBA recently wrapped up, the

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<v Speaker 1>MLB is well on its way to finish up the

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<v Speaker 1>World Series, and pretty soon all we'll be left with

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<v Speaker 1>is the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is the machine that just keeps on turning. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just so.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy because I remember, and I guess around late July

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<v Speaker 1>when all the sports started trickling its way back into

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<v Speaker 1>the equation and we were kind of just overwhelmed. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe there's one weekend in August where literally every single

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<v Speaker 1>sport was on the TV, including golf and tennis and

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<v Speaker 1>what have you. And pretty soon we're just gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>left with the NFL. But I think the Masters are

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<v Speaker 1>next week. I'm not very privy to what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the world of golf, but I'm pretty sure that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. But if you're a huge sports fan, likes

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<v Speaker 1>like myself, you kind of realized that we were spoiled

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<v Speaker 1>for a good period there in the late summer after

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<v Speaker 1>having nothing at all in terms of content for the

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<v Speaker 1>better part of I would say four months when COVID

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<v Speaker 1>first hit. But look, guys, I'm glad you're here to

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<v Speaker 1>join us. I'm really excited to get into it this

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<v Speaker 1>week because I'm gonna continue down the theme of faction rivalries,

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<v Speaker 1>and this week we are gonna take a time travel

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<v Speaker 1>back to twenty fourteen with the Shield versus Evolution. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty way more recent rivalry than we've been in

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<v Speaker 1>custom to through I guess the first eight weeks. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're eight weeks into this rivalries experiment together. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, just to this point, I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>still relatively new and we have a long way to

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<v Speaker 1>go here, but I cannot express how grateful and thankful

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<v Speaker 1>I am for you guys to tuning into this show

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<v Speaker 1>each and every week. How grateful I am for Matt

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<v Speaker 1>to have given me this opportunity and this platform to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the more nostalgic things and wrestling that is

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<v Speaker 1>just my bread and butter when it comes to WWE.

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<v Speaker 1>So really excited to get into WWE rivalries this week

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<v Speaker 1>between the Shield and Evolution. But before we get there,

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<v Speaker 1>as always, I want to give my thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 1>current product, and I'll start, I guess with the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is the biggest news. I was pretty satisfied

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<v Speaker 1>with what they did. It seemed like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>mid card guys swapped the brands, for instance, going to SmackDown.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that I wanted this to happen, and it did.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Owens going there, I think that is huge. They

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<v Speaker 1>really needed a big time babyfase, and Kevin Owens is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy to do it. You know, many people forget

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<v Speaker 1>that for all intents and purposes, he was the first

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<v Speaker 1>ever Universal champion. I know technically it was Finn Balor,

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<v Speaker 1>but he relinquished it a night after winning it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Kevin Owens went on a I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>a four or five month run with it. He held

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<v Speaker 1>it from August to late February, when he infamously dropped

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<v Speaker 1>it to Goldberg. But look, I think there's still a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of main event left in Kevin Owens and he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't really gotten back there since early twenty seventeen, and

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to see him as a babyface. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that he has to win the title now

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<v Speaker 1>or even in the near future, but I still would

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<v Speaker 1>like to see him get back into that picture. And

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<v Speaker 1>given the small amount of top babyfaces on SmackDown and

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<v Speaker 1>challengers and potential challengers for Roman Rains' Universal Championship, he

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy that I really want to see and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not expecting to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be necessarily right away.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how far they're gonna drag out this

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<v Speaker 1>j USO program with Roman Rains. One would have to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that it ends inside Hell in the Cell in

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<v Speaker 1>a week's time, but you never know with WWE. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that now SmackDown has set themselves up with

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<v Speaker 1>two on the raw baby faces and Kevin Owens and Biggie,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's another thing I want to touch on.

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<v Speaker 2>Really happy to see Biggie.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue down the singles push because I think, as Madden mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure a lot of you guys were thinking when

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<v Speaker 1>you saw the return of Kofi Kingston and you saw

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<v Speaker 1>the return of Xavier Woods, you automatically just thought like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the end of Biggie's push. But they are really

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<v Speaker 1>going down full steam ahead with this big East singles push,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really like it. Another thing coming over to

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<v Speaker 1>SmackDown is Alistair Black and look I personally feel like

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<v Speaker 1>his momentum has been just stopped dead in its tracks

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<v Speaker 1>after a pretty solid start to the year. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when the year started, I guess, well, maybe not right

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<v Speaker 1>when it started, but around April or May, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that he would have been a perfect contender for the

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<v Speaker 1>ww Championship at next year's WrestleMania against Drew McIntyre with

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<v Speaker 1>the way he was going down and the momentum he

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<v Speaker 1>was gating, but now kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of stopped in its tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that program with it Kevin Owens is done

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<v Speaker 1>after taking the loss this past Monday Night, but again,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know with WWE, and aside from Kevin Owens

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<v Speaker 1>and Biggie, I guess you could throw Daniel Bryan into

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<v Speaker 1>into that makes his potential challengers for Roman Reigns' Universal Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just don't know when Daniel Bryan will be

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<v Speaker 1>back here. And that's the thing that kind of scares

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<v Speaker 1>me a bit, is that, given the whole COVID nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe you as a newborn child, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know if and when he will be back by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this year or in time for WrestleMania season.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll hold out I'll reserve judgment until he comes

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<v Speaker 1>back and we can go and get an exact timeline

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<v Speaker 1>and when he will be back in the ring. Over

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<v Speaker 1>on the raw side of things, well, look, they kept

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<v Speaker 1>all of their big names. They kept Drew McIntyre, they

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<v Speaker 1>kept Brandy Orton, they held on to Keith Lee, they

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<v Speaker 1>held on to the Hurt business, which I'm really happy

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<v Speaker 1>about retribution and meh, considering the way that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going down and they have that ongoing rivalry with the

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<v Speaker 1>Hurt business, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay with it, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>But they really knocked it out of the park on

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of big name upper mid card guys that

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<v Speaker 1>they brought over from SmackDown, and most notably it's Aj Styles,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Hardy, and Seamus. Seamus is a guy to me

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<v Speaker 1>that if Drew McIntyre somehow retains the championship against Randy Orton,

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<v Speaker 1>which I wouldn't be opposed to, but I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to see Randy Orton get it. I could see Seamus

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<v Speaker 1>versus Drew McIntyre's a very very interesting program in the

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<v Speaker 1>not so distant future. I think Seamus, much like Kevin Owens,

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy who still has a main event run

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<v Speaker 1>left in him. The difference is is that Seamus probably

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have nearly as much runway left as a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that Kevin Owens does. Is Seamus has been around for

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<v Speaker 1>over ten years and Kevin Owens has really only been

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<v Speaker 1>on the main roster for five and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Five and a half years Kevin Owens has been on

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<v Speaker 1>the roster has really gone by in a flash. But

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to Seamus, I thought he was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>getting drowned on SmackDown because SmackDown had like an overbearing

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<v Speaker 1>amount of heels and now you go over to Raw

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure if they're gonna turn him babyface.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mind it. He hasn't been a babyface for

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<v Speaker 1>I would say about six years now, and he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys that he can kind of play either

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<v Speaker 1>role equally as well, so I wouldn't be opposed to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But given that they've just gone down this new kind

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<v Speaker 1>of direction with his character wearing like that old fashioned

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<v Speaker 1>code and I don't know if it's a fedora but

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<v Speaker 1>an old style hat, I think they're gonna continue down

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<v Speaker 1>this path with him. But again, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>see him potentially go up against Drew McIntyre, and even

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<v Speaker 1>if Randy Orton wins the ww Championship, I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to see Drew McIntyre versus Shamus type of feud.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be a very cool clash of styles,

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<v Speaker 1>no pun intendas I'm gonna talk about aj styles in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. And furthermore, one Scottish, one's Ireland Irish rather

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<v Speaker 1>so just their respective nationalities would be something cool to

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<v Speaker 1>pull off of. They also get Bronze Stroman, who he's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of being twisted in the wind since losing

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<v Speaker 1>the Universal Championship. And you kind of knew it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said to myself when it happened, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure a lot of you guys were as well. When

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<v Speaker 1>he won the Universal Championship at WrestleMania over Goldberg. You

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<v Speaker 1>basically knew they were just treading water until Roman Reigns

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<v Speaker 1>came back and then he was to get that belt

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<v Speaker 1>quickly upon his return, and that's what happened. He showed

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<v Speaker 1>up on a Sunday and the following Sunday he won

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<v Speaker 1>the championship. So I feel bad for Bronz Strowman. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not really.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure if he's a babyfac or a heel.

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<v Speaker 1>He has that new look going on with like the

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<v Speaker 1>dry fit shirt and the cargo pants bald head. I

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<v Speaker 1>assume that he's gonna engage in a lengthy program with

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Lee, which I'm all here for, which would make

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<v Speaker 1>me draw a conclusion.

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<v Speaker 2>That he's a heel.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he's facing Roman Reigns on this SmackDown for

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<v Speaker 1>the Universal Championship, and that's another thing that Matt has

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<v Speaker 1>been touching on a lot. But I'll just give my

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<v Speaker 1>two cents on it quickly. If you're gonna draft a

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<v Speaker 1>guy to SmackDown, how can he fight a raw champion

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<v Speaker 1>and vice versa, because in this case, it's a raw

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<v Speaker 1>guy fighting a SmackDown champion. And it just comes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact of that they really don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>the rules of the brand split, which I took a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive on last week when I did the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Raw versus SmackDown from five review. And look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna reiterate a lot of what Matt said because my

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<v Speaker 1>feelings almost front parallel with his, But this is one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that they had in the Ruthless Aggression era that

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<v Speaker 1>I think was really good as opposed to what they

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<v Speaker 1>have now. Nowadays they have the SmackDown Tag Team Champions,

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<v Speaker 1>the Raw Tag Team Champions, the Raw Women's Champion, the

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<v Speaker 1>SmackDown Women's Champion, brand exclusive championships. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, Raw had its own Tag Team Championship,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was the World Tag Team Champion. SmackDown had

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<v Speaker 1>its own Tag Team Championship, but it was the WWE

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<v Speaker 1>Championship or the WWE Tag Team Championship rather so if

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<v Speaker 1>those titles were interchangeable amongst the brands. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing with the world titles, because back then

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<v Speaker 1>they still had the WWE title obviously, but instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the Universal, they had the World Heavyweight which so I note,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they had just brought back instead of creating

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new Universal Championship, but that's neither here nor there.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they debuted the Universal Championship four years ago

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<v Speaker 1>and it had the red strap, I said to myself, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is dumb because maybe it doesn't have it in

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<v Speaker 1>the name, but the strap itself almost makes it brand exclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously it went to SmackDown last year and they

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<v Speaker 1>simply just changed the strap to blue, which is fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but to me it just devalues the meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that title.

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<v Speaker 1>But even beyond the meaning of the championship, you have

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<v Speaker 1>Roman reigns Now defending the Universal Championship against Bronze Strowman,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Against predictability, but this is just stupidity. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the point of this. Forget the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>it back to Raw. It just makes no sense. I

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<v Speaker 1>They don't think very far ahead of themselves, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>could anyone beyond the age of eight years old really

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<v Speaker 1>believe that Broun Strowman has a snowballs chance in hell

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<v Speaker 1>of winning this match? And again, I'm not always opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to predict ability, but not when it coincides with stupidity.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, I'm look. It was another thing in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft that bothered me that when they split the New Day.

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<v Speaker 1>actually really like it, as I previously said, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>how they did it because the rules of the draft

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<v Speaker 1>said factions or tag teams can get taken unless USA

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<v Speaker 1>Raw went first and picked KOFE and Xavier Woods, and

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<v Speaker 1>then SmackDown went second and picked Biggie. Would it have

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<v Speaker 1>not made more sense to Bit for Biggie to get

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<v Speaker 1>picked first, honestly, because you're telling me that USA only

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<v Speaker 1>wanted kofee and Xavier Woods and Biggie was like the

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<v Speaker 1>leftover scraps here. Like again, I know they're not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be like wrestling. Gms are very high and wrestling knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>product over oh I don't know the last five months

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<v Speaker 1>and say, well, Biggie's the hottest commodity right now and

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<v Speaker 1>worth the most right now. It would have been it

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<v Speaker 1>would have made more sense for SmackDown to take Biggie

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<v Speaker 1>first and then Rob be like, okay, well we might

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<v Speaker 1>as well take the New Day because the whole point

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<v Speaker 1>of this split is to say, well, Xavier and KOFE

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna continue down the tag team route and Biggie's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna eventually get a mid card to main event push

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<v Speaker 1>as a singles competitor, and it just didn't make sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me that Xavier and KOFE went first, Because again,

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<v Speaker 1>I know WWE doesn't think this much, but for a

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<v Speaker 1>fan like me who's been watching for twenty years, it

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<v Speaker 1>just it makes me feel that they don't value Biggie

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<v Speaker 1>as much. And I know that's not the case, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going with the true integrity of a sports

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<v Speaker 1>draft and they're really trying to emulate how real life

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<v Speaker 1>drafts take place in real life sports, the guy with

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<v Speaker 1>more value and the guy who the company thinks more

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<v Speaker 1>highly of will go first. It's just common sense. And

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<v Speaker 1>again it's no big deal, but again, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>another thing and another example of WWE really not caring

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<v Speaker 1>about the little details when trying to tell a story.

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<v Speaker 1>And the last thing I want to touch on the

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<v Speaker 1>draft before we get onto rivalries, which I know is

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why you guys are here. And I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm rambling a bit, but it's Aj Styles and

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<v Speaker 1>aj Styles is a guy that for me has been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of twisting away in obscurity for over a year now.

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<v Speaker 1>And personally, I think he's the best wrestler they have

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<v Speaker 1>right now, both in the ring and character wise. Although

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<v Speaker 1>his character has gotten a bit stale, it seems that

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<v Speaker 1>ever since that Undertaker program at WrestleMania, it has just

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<v Speaker 1>been a whole lot of met for AJ Styles. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a guy that I know he's only been

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<v Speaker 1>in WWE for I want to say five years now

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<v Speaker 1>this coming January, but he isn't exactly young, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he did an interview that said that he only

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<v Speaker 1>has about two or three years left here. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're really utilizing AJ Styles to the maximization

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<v Speaker 1>of his to the best of his capabilities. Rather, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I would like to see with AJ Styles.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he needs to go back babyface. While I

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<v Speaker 1>like him as a heel and as a whole, I

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<v Speaker 1>probably prefer him more as a heel type of character.

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<v Speaker 1>I think WWE is really lacking in the top babyface department.

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<v Speaker 1>Aside from Drew McIntyre. I know you have up and

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<v Speaker 1>coming guys like Keith Lee and Biggie, and you still

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<v Speaker 1>have Kevin Owen's waiting, but aside from Drew McIntyre, there's

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<v Speaker 1>real no main, legitimate main event babyfaces they have on

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<v Speaker 1>either Raw or SmackDown. You can make the case for

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Bryan, I guess, but he kind of seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have one foot in one foot out right now. You

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<v Speaker 1>look over on Raw. Jeff Hardy, I suppose, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's gonna even sniff the World Championship scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe when Edge comes back, but again, he's more of

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<v Speaker 1>a part time guy. I just look at aj Styles

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<v Speaker 1>and I see a guy who, while I think as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole he's a better heel, we know he's a

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<v Speaker 1>good babyface, and they have a chance here with him

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<v Speaker 1>going back to Raw, and I hope he stays on Raw,

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<v Speaker 1>just for at least the whole year, because he started

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<v Speaker 1>at the draft last year in October, he was on Raw,

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<v Speaker 1>then they switched him to SmackDown, and then he went

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<v Speaker 1>back to Raw. Now, so he's just kind of been

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<v Speaker 1>going back and forth and back and forth. But and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that had something to do with backstage heat

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<v Speaker 1>with Paul Hammond, but I'm not gonna analyze things they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have all the information to But I want them

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<v Speaker 1>to really just find him a stable place on Raw,

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<v Speaker 1>and that should be in the main events scene. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're asking me, and I'm not a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>does this a lot that fantasy books, I'm picking Aj.

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<v Speaker 2>Styles to win the Royal Rumble.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you guys may say, well, why that

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<v Speaker 1>should be for an upcoming guy like big Ee or

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<v Speaker 1>what have you. I wouldn't be opposed to Biggie or

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Owens winning the Royal Rumble and going on to

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<v Speaker 1>face Roman Reigns. But this is why I want AJ

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<v Speaker 1>Styles to win him because I think he's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that because he spent so much time in TNA and

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<v Speaker 1>Impact Wrestling and only really came over in his late thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>to we you don't really consider him one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best wrestlers of the last generation, when in fact he

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<v Speaker 1>is as a whole. Since twenty sixteen, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that aj Styles is the best wrestler w W has had,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always just could not get over the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of chemistry he had with John Cena, both in promos

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<v Speaker 1>and in the ring, and after John Cena left, I

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<v Speaker 1>almost felt like Aj Styles took on that role that

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<v Speaker 1>John Cena had as the veteran may evank guy who

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<v Speaker 1>can tag in from time to time as the World Champion,

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<v Speaker 1>but mainly had a stay in the upper mid card,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like what John Cena was doing from let's

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<v Speaker 1>say twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen in the final two

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<v Speaker 1>years of him being a relatively full time competitor. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to see ag Sells win the Royal

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<v Speaker 1>Rubble to cement himself as a legitimate star of the

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<v Speaker 1>last Generation because he is. And I'm not saying I

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<v Speaker 1>would want him to go on and maybe win the

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<v Speaker 1>w W Championship from Drew McIntyre because I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to see McIntyre go into WrestleMania with the w W Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if he drops it to Randy Orton in a

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<v Speaker 1>back in time for WrestleMania season.

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<v Speaker 2>But that would be a program I would really like

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<v Speaker 2>to see.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a while since they did Babyface for Babyface

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<v Speaker 1>going into a WrestleMania I think the last time they

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<v Speaker 1>did it was Knackamore vers Aj Styles. Ironically enough, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see Aj Styles vers Drew McIntire

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<v Speaker 1>main event WrestleMania this year. And I just think AJ

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<v Speaker 1>Styles is a guy that would very much benefit from

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<v Speaker 1>a royal Rumble victory in the final couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>of his pro wrestling career and a guy who deserves it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love aj.

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<v Speaker 1>Styles, and I think for the last year or so

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<v Speaker 1>they have been kind of wasting him.

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<v Speaker 2>But enough of the current product.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I went a bit longer this week than usual,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's get into the reason why you guys are here,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is rivalries. And we're gonna go back to

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<v Speaker 1>start this in two thousand and twelve, late twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>when The Shield debuted at the Survivor Series pay per

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<v Speaker 1>view and interfered in the triple threat match between Cmpunk,

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<v Speaker 1>John Cena and Rye Back for the WWE Championship, and

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<v Speaker 1>they interfered and they ended up costing Rye Back the

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<v Speaker 1>WWE Championship. And The Shield went on for about a

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<v Speaker 1>year of just running rough shot on WWE, and I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say they are one of the main things that

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<v Speaker 1>pulled me back into really caring about the product again, because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I really got drawn back in in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven when The Rock came back, but after his

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<v Speaker 1>initial return and he was just kind of showing up

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<v Speaker 1>every couple of months trying to build his program to

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<v Speaker 1>John Cena at WrestleMania twenty eight in twenty twelve. Aside

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<v Speaker 1>from that, I really wasn't all that interested because I felt,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people liked it, but that era,

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<v Speaker 1>the early twenty tens was a really dark time for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really just didn't care a whole lot about

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<v Speaker 1>the product. But when the Shield showed up, it really

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<v Speaker 1>gave me kind of a feeling from an Attitude era.

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<v Speaker 1>They were a faction that I could have seen in

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<v Speaker 1>the Attitude era or the Rutha's aggressionary. I liked their

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<v Speaker 1>theme song, I liked their look, I like the tactical gear,

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<v Speaker 1>I like coming down from the crowd. Everything about the

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<v Speaker 1>Shield was something that I draw and it drew me

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<v Speaker 1>back in. So for twenty thirteen they were pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>a mid card Healed faction, and they even aligned themselves

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<v Speaker 1>like the Heavies for Triple H when Randy Orton had

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<v Speaker 1>at SummerSlam twenty thirteen, and then you saw Roman reigns

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<v Speaker 1>and seth Rawlins win the tag team championships, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you saw Deeede Ambrose when the US titles, So they

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<v Speaker 1>Early twenty fourteen comes and they had mainly been heels,

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<v Speaker 1>well actually entirely bin heels for they I would say

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen months that they had been on the main roster,

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<v Speaker 1>but WWE started dipping their toes into the prospect of

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<v Speaker 1>potentially turning them babyface, and we saw them have a

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<v Speaker 1>short run in with the Wyatt family, who obviously were

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<v Speaker 1>full blow heels at the time, and then they had

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<v Speaker 1>who were heels. So they hadn't done a complete babyface

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<v Speaker 1>turn yet, but WWE was definitely dipping their toes in

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<v Speaker 1>the water to see how the reaction from the fans

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<v Speaker 1>would be. And you always knew with the Shield or

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<v Speaker 1>shortly after their debut that if WWE ever decided to

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<v Speaker 1>turn them babyface, the crowd would absolutely love them because

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<v Speaker 1>they were guys who had perfect heel heat. All the

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<v Speaker 1>NXD maniacs loved them because they were big NXT guys,

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<v Speaker 1>especially seth rawlins, and they were just they had a

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<v Speaker 1>really cool vibe about them. It was just something about

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<v Speaker 1>the Shield when they first showed up that was almost

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<v Speaker 1>as a blast on a pass, like something that we

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<v Speaker 1>do with Retribution now, except they knocked it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the park with the with the Shield and they fallen

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<v Speaker 1>flat on their face with w WE. And the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the Shield and their one model was always justice.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the hounds of justice. That's what they cared

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<v Speaker 1>about and that's what they live by, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>they started slowly transitioning into the babyface side of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>But while the Shield were slowly but surely starting to

427
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<v Speaker 1>turn babyface very gradually. If you remember in twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the Yes movement, when you know, WWE single

429
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<v Speaker 1>handedly got forced by the fans into changing the main

430
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<v Speaker 1>event of WrestleMania thirty when it was supposed to be

431
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<v Speaker 1>Batista versus Randy Orton, but it ended up being a

432
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<v Speaker 1>triple threat match with Daniel Brian being in there and

433
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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Brian's feud with the authority in Triple H more

434
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<v Speaker 1>specifically was on fold display at this point. So WrestleMania

435
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<v Speaker 1>comes and goes. He beats Triple A to get into

436
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<v Speaker 1>that triple threat match to main event Wrestleming of thirty.

437
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<v Speaker 1>He gets in there, and then despite interference from Triple

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<v Speaker 1>H and Stephanie McMahon, despite Batista and Randy Orton teaming

439
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<v Speaker 1>up on him during the match, Daniel Bryan finds a

440
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<v Speaker 1>way to win and become the WWE undisputed World Champion

441
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<v Speaker 1>because at this time they had just unified the world

442
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<v Speaker 1>Heavyweight titles and the WWE Championship.

443
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<v Speaker 2>So the following night on.

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<v Speaker 1>Raw, Daniel Brian opens the show and he comes out

445
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<v Speaker 1>to just an absolute chorus of cheers. They are going

446
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<v Speaker 1>ballistic for Daniel Bryan, and Triple H comes out and

447
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<v Speaker 1>pissed off his all hell says you're gonna face me

448
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<v Speaker 1>tonight on Raw to for the World Heavyweight Championship, the

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<v Speaker 1>WWE World Heavyweight Championship. So it was a pretty cool

450
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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere and you think, like, Okay, they're gonna have a

451
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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna knock this match out of the park, and

452
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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Brown's gonna beat Triple Hi. Again and it's just

453
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<v Speaker 1>gonna be yet another victory to cement Daniel Brian as

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<v Speaker 1>a main event player after months being told he is

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<v Speaker 1>a B plus player by the authority. But he comes

456
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<v Speaker 1>to the ring and before the match could even start,

457
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<v Speaker 1>you get Batista and Randy Jorton come out and beat

458
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<v Speaker 1>the holy hell out of him. Then Caine comes out

459
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<v Speaker 1>and if you remember at this time, Caine was the

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<v Speaker 1>director of operations, so we had no mask on would

461
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<v Speaker 1>come out in a suit and he comes out seemingly

462
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<v Speaker 1>to regulate the situation, but then he choke slams Daniel Brian.

463
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<v Speaker 1>So Daniel Brian is just getting destroyed by Batista, Randy

464
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<v Speaker 1>Jorton and Kane and then lo and behold, Triple H

465
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<v Speaker 1>makes his way out to the ring and forces the

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<v Speaker 1>referee to ring the bell and start the match, despite

467
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<v Speaker 1>Danielbrian being incapacitated. So the bell rings, Daniel Brian is

468
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<v Speaker 1>lying motionless on the on the ring, Matt Triple H

469
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<v Speaker 1>is mocking the crowd doing the yes chance is m man,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Kine Batista ran you were looking on on

471
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<v Speaker 1>the outside, and it seems that Triple H has this

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<v Speaker 1>championship win in the bag. When this happens, We're not no.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no contest to compete right here, replas that if

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<v Speaker 4>you want your job ring the bill.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait a minute, can you make four backs? Vanka Ryan?

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<v Speaker 6>The House of.

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<v Speaker 5>Justice taking away today, right?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay?

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<v Speaker 7>Trust tell me your mother. Hey, no, this is not happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Juice nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't trust that I got I'm gons I gonna grow

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<v Speaker 7>for it.

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<v Speaker 6>Trust out, man, I trust some, trust some.

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<v Speaker 5>No, this is not happening. It's not this is not happening.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm cluding you're not breaking this down into a god.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is not happening. Come on, how's t try spy?

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<v Speaker 2>How the taste?

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<v Speaker 7>Don't to tell you? Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Too.

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<v Speaker 6>The Hounds of Justice. Em kids can bring.

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<v Speaker 7>The least two three kill whatever be not gonna be

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<v Speaker 7>wrong of doing, Champion.

493
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<v Speaker 6>He's gonna be worse than that.

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<v Speaker 8>The Hounds of Chunk is stuck in the past. Remember, guys,

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<v Speaker 8>can't implicated to place. They that attack a couple of

496
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<v Speaker 8>weeks ago. Better back to this for the guys.

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<v Speaker 7>Guys, it's too late.

498
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<v Speaker 6>Out of nowhere.

499
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<v Speaker 1>So as you guys heard, the Shield comes out to

500
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<v Speaker 1>make the save on Daniel Bryan, and it was a

501
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>really cool visual this entire time, because the Shield comes

502
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<v Speaker 1>out to the ring and they get on one side

503
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<v Speaker 1>of the ring on the ring, Apron and Caine, Ran

504
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<v Speaker 1>Orton and Batista get on the other side and they're

505
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<v Speaker 1>having a stare down with Triple A's trying to mediate

506
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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. And you may ask, well, why is

507
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<v Speaker 1>Triple A trying to mediate? Why would he bother wasting.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Time with the Shield.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, earlier on in that night, he had actually informed

510
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<v Speaker 1>the Shield that if anything were to go sideways, you

511
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<v Speaker 1>guys were going to come in and be the difference

512
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<v Speaker 1>makers and help me get what needs to be done. Because,

513
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<v Speaker 1>like I said, they were kind of babyfaces, but they

514
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<v Speaker 1>still had not fully turned and ultimately were still heels.

515
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<v Speaker 1>And in the past, just five or six months prior,

516
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<v Speaker 1>they had been pretty much Lackey's and henchmen for the Authority,

517
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<v Speaker 1>So it made sense that Triple H was trying to

518
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<v Speaker 1>reason with them. You heard him saying to telling them

519
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<v Speaker 1>to you know, stand down, and then he's telling Kane like,

520
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<v Speaker 1>we're not breaking this down into a war because obviously

521
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<v Speaker 1>Kane had had his run ends in with the Shield

522
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<v Speaker 1>in the weeks leading up to it, but Ultimately, Triple

523
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<v Speaker 1>H turns around, eats a spear from Roman, reigns, and

524
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<v Speaker 1>the Shield clear the ring with the and Daniel Bryan

525
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<v Speaker 1>ends up getting up nailing Triple H with the flying

526
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<v Speaker 1>knee and thus completing the baby.

527
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<v Speaker 2>Face turn of the Shield.

528
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<v Speaker 1>So the Shield go on to you know, pretty much

529
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<v Speaker 1>keep on standing up to the authority and doing what

530
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<v Speaker 1>they have to do, and eventually they get put in

531
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<v Speaker 1>a match against pretty much the entire raw roster, well

532
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<v Speaker 1>not the entire roster, but all of the heels in

533
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>w W, all the mid card heels get put up

534
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>against the Shield, and they get beaten down in an

535
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<v Speaker 1>eleven on three handicap match. And at the end of

536
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<v Speaker 1>this handicap match that I don't think even had an

537
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 1>official end to it, and they're just being beaten down

538
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>by all these guys. Next thing, you know of very

539
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>familiar music hits that we hadn't heard in about ten years.

540
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<v Speaker 6>Stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't think any worse but.

543
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<v Speaker 3>Bits back together. Yet remember.

544
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<v Speaker 5>What one of the strongest factions he's history.

545
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<v Speaker 6>Now, this can only big trouble. The Shield can only

546
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<v Speaker 6>think themselves and Harry his teams of all the time

547
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<v Speaker 6>is about to leish.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell yeah, apparently evolutionary giant horses for a common goal.

549
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<v Speaker 8>And became.

550
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<v Speaker 3>All Brian He's Ben's problems have evolution.

551
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<v Speaker 6>Tomorrow.

552
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<v Speaker 1>The dogs haven't been has been done, so evolution makes

553
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<v Speaker 1>its return. The first time you ever you had seen Batista,

554
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<v Speaker 1>Triple H and randyart and standing side by side in

555
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<v Speaker 1>ten years. So think about what on on in ten

556
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<v Speaker 1>years between these three guys. You know, Batista and Triple

557
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<v Speaker 1>H had had just a crazy rivalry in two thousand

558
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<v Speaker 1>and five, Randy Orton attacked the entire McMahon family in

559
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine. He broke Batista's arm in that

560
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>same year, but there was no love loss between any

561
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<v Speaker 1>of these three individuals. And you heard one of the

562
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.759
<v Speaker 1>contiers said, I believe it was JBL saying all coming

563
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<v Speaker 1>together for a common goal. And like I said earlier

564
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<v Speaker 1>in the podcast, is that the shield kind of gave

565
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<v Speaker 1>me a throwback to a feeling I had had and

566
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<v Speaker 1>that I hadn't had rather in close to a decade

567
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<v Speaker 1>since the ruthless Aggression era. And when I saw Evolution

568
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<v Speaker 1>walk out and just basically take advantage of a beaten

569
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.359
<v Speaker 1>down shield, I realized that the Shield really reminded me

570
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<v Speaker 1>of Evolution, and it wasn't for the fact of how

571
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<v Speaker 1>they looked esthetically or their common goal or how they

572
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 1>came out to the ring or any of that, or

573
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.319
<v Speaker 1>their styles of wrestling, none of that, but it was

574
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<v Speaker 1>just it was in the sense that it was a

575
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.519
<v Speaker 1>faction that felt like a main event player. And that's

576
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 1>how Evolution felt in the Ruthless Aggression era that even

577
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<v Speaker 1>though at times that aside from Triple H they were

578
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<v Speaker 1>mainly just a mid card faction that would you know,

579
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<v Speaker 1>contend for the tag team titles in the Interconnal Championship

580
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 1>if they got put in the main event scene, it

581
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>felt that like they belonged, and that's how I felt

582
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<v Speaker 1>about The Shield. They felt that from the get go

583
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that they had main event potential. It didn't take me

584
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 1>long to get behind Rawlins, Reigns and Ambrose and say, yeah,

585
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 1>I really think that WWE could build the future behind

586
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.519
<v Speaker 1>these three guys. And that's the same way I felt

587
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<v Speaker 1>about Batista and Randy Orton back in two thousand and four,

588
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<v Speaker 1>And it didn't take me long to feel that way

589
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 1>about them either, much like I did about The Shield.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's say.

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<v Speaker 1>Early twenty thirteen. So when Evolution made their return here,

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<v Speaker 1>it really made me realize, like, man, there are so

593
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<v Speaker 1>many parallels between these two groups, and it's almost like

594
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<v Speaker 1>timelines are clashing here, generations are clashing, because who would

595
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<v Speaker 1>have ever thought we would have seen Evolution back together

596
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and to go up against the Shield. And I'll just

597
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<v Speaker 1>say it now that in the last fifty in the

598
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>last twenty years, these are probably the two best factions

599
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 1>WWE has had to offer. You can make the case

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<v Speaker 1>for the new incarnation of Degeneration X, I guess in

601
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<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands with the McMahon Helmley regime, but

602
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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't match up against the original DX. And these two,

603
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<v Speaker 1>the Shield and Evolution, are the two best the WWE

604
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<v Speaker 1>has had in the last two decades. And maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I like the Hurt business so much, is that

606
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<v Speaker 1>it's made me feel like a similar admiration towards a

607
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<v Speaker 1>faction that I haven't felt, let's say, since the Shield.

608
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<v Speaker 1>And I think factions are something that has gone by

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<v Speaker 1>the wayside of b WWE, and I think they should

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<v Speaker 1>go back to. More so Evolution reforms and thus kicks

611
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<v Speaker 1>officially kicks off the rivalry between the two teams, and

612
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<v Speaker 1>the first encounter that they would have would be at

613
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<v Speaker 1>Extreme Rules twenty fourteen, where the Shield would go over

614
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<v Speaker 1>on Evolution, beating them in a six.

615
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Man tag team match.

616
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.760
<v Speaker 1>But then it set the stage for their second match

617
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<v Speaker 1>at Payback at the beginning of June, and this one

618
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<v Speaker 1>was the one that everyone remembers because it not only

619
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<v Speaker 1>Maine evented the show, but it also wasn't no holds

620
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.760
<v Speaker 1>barred match and an elimination match. And if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember, this is where the famous Blue Teasta thing

622
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>came from, when Batista came out in full blue gear

623
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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason and just the crowds are chanting Blue Teast,

624
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<v Speaker 1>and I think social media had it trending and whatnot.

625
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But once again, the Shield goes over on Evolution and

626
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<v Speaker 1>just sweeping them in back to back matches. And this

627
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>really solidified the Shield as a true top faction in

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the history of WWE, and I'm confident

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<v Speaker 1>in saying that because it solidified them against probably the

630
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<v Speaker 1>best faction in WWE history, or at least of the

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<v Speaker 1>last two decades, in Evolution.

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<v Speaker 2>So the next night on Raw, Evolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Comes out and Triple h says We're not done with

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<v Speaker 1>the Shield until it is no more, and that results

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<v Speaker 1>with Batista saying, this is not what I signed up for,

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<v Speaker 1>This is not what I wanted when I returned to

637
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<v Speaker 1>WWE earlier this year, and blow and behold, he walks

638
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<v Speaker 1>out on WWE and quits just six months after returning

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<v Speaker 1>to the company. But Triple H was adamant that the

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<v Speaker 1>only way that this rivalry would end is when the

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<v Speaker 1>Shield was no more, and that's what resulted in the

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<v Speaker 1>closing segment of that Monday Night Raw You I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>figured it out yet.

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<v Speaker 3>What I do better than anybody is adapt last night

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<v Speaker 3>was planned. A tonight plan B. There's always a plan by.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god, what.

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<v Speaker 6>Is a Are you kidding me?

648
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<v Speaker 2>Rollins down?

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<v Speaker 6>Here's something Ambrows, Rowlands are something?

650
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<v Speaker 3>Ambros?

651
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<v Speaker 2>How do I tuk out?

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<v Speaker 7>Raise us looking out here?

653
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<v Speaker 5>Gusual on top of the world.

654
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<v Speaker 3>Why the Romans set Rowans do this? God? Robins to destroyed?

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<v Speaker 5>Ambros broke that chair over, broke that chair over, Ambros.

656
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<v Speaker 3>Shock, God, I gotta know you. It clars a chair.

657
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<v Speaker 1>So I don't have to tell you guys what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure all of you guys have watched it time

659
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<v Speaker 1>and time again. Seth Rawlins turns his back on the

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<v Speaker 1>Shield and completes the most one of the most infamous

661
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<v Speaker 1>heel turns in quite some time, thus imploding the Shield.

662
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<v Speaker 1>Then he beat the hell of them with chairs, gave

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Ambrose the stomp onto a steel chair than Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Whorton got in the ring, had his own little fun

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<v Speaker 1>with a chair at the expense of Ambros and Rains.

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<v Speaker 1>And this then thus completed the rivalry between Evolution and

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<v Speaker 1>the Shield. And I think that this rivalry is very

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<v Speaker 1>important for numerous reasons. Number one, it solidified the Shield

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<v Speaker 1>as main event players and one of the best factions

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. They beat the arguably the best faction

671
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<v Speaker 1>of all time in Evolution in two matches and did

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<v Speaker 1>so in quite convincing ways. And getting wittings over the

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<v Speaker 1>names such as Triple A, Randy Orton, and Bautista is

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<v Speaker 1>something very very substantial in WWE, especially when you guys

675
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<v Speaker 1>have never been main event players in your own right.

676
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<v Speaker 1>Like It's one thing if you've been being pushed as

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<v Speaker 1>a single star for a couple months and then you

678
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<v Speaker 1>finally go over on a big name in the company.

679
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<v Speaker 1>But this was different in the sense that these guys were,

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<v Speaker 1>by all intents and purposes, just a mid card faction,

681
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<v Speaker 1>a mid card heel faction to boot and seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Creative was able to book them in two

683
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<v Speaker 1>victories over the likes of Evolution was very telling on

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<v Speaker 1>how WWE management felt about them. And furthermore, it ended

685
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<v Speaker 1>this rivalry, ended the Shield, and I know we've had

686
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<v Speaker 1>reincarnations of it over the past few years leading up

687
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<v Speaker 1>to the departure of Diana Ambrose, but it never really

688
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<v Speaker 1>quite felt the same, And to be honest, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>that they just did very like too fast. It had

690
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<v Speaker 1>only been three years when they did the initial reunion

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<v Speaker 1>in the fall of two thousand and seven, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just felt it was too much, too quick, and they

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<v Speaker 1>should have let it breathe a bit. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>in hindsight it's probably a good thing that they did it,

695
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<v Speaker 1>because Dean Ambrose ended up leaving and is now John

696
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<v Speaker 1>Moxley in AW so they wouldn't have had the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to now.

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<v Speaker 2>But Evolution ended the Shield, so it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Very important in the sense that they solidified them as

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<v Speaker 1>main event players, but at the same time they ended

701
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<v Speaker 1>the faction. As we knew it, and it's very it's

702
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<v Speaker 1>a very weird dynamic because you're saying, well, if they're

703
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<v Speaker 1>solidifying them as main event players, but they also ended them,

704
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<v Speaker 1>how could both be true? But it's because we knew

705
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<v Speaker 1>at this point, maybe subconsciously, that Dean Ambrose, Roman Reigns,

706
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<v Speaker 1>and seth Rawlins were all ready for prime time, at

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<v Speaker 1>least in my opinion. And it was weird because seth

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<v Speaker 1>Rawlins was the one who right out of the gate,

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<v Speaker 1>got the biggest push, and before this happened, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have argued that he was kind of the odd man out.

711
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<v Speaker 1>He was kind of the third wheel to this group,

712
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<v Speaker 1>because if I think back to the Shield in twenty

713
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<v Speaker 1>thirteen and early twenty fourteen, I looked at it and

714
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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, Roman Reigns is clearly the guy that

715
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 1>WWE likes and will likely be a baby phase. Dean

716
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<v Speaker 1>Ambrose has the lunatic psycho thing going on, so he's

717
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<v Speaker 1>going to be a full blown heel, and seth Rawlins

718
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>is just the acrobatic guy who's excellent in the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just my opinion on it. Maybe you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have a differing one, but I always thought that Seth

721
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<v Speaker 1>Rawlins would be the least likely to have main event

722
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>potential when they all broke, so when they decided to

723
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<v Speaker 1>have seth Rawlins be the guy to turn on the

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00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Shield and have the most significant character development right off

725
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the bat, and win the money in the bank briefcase

726
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.360
<v Speaker 1>shortly thereafter, and get Jay and J's security and all

727
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:57.760
<v Speaker 1>these things. I just found it very very intriguing and

728
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a brilliant part on creative because look, lo and behold.

729
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<v Speaker 1>Since then, seth Rawlins has become one of the most

730
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<v Speaker 1>prominent wrestlers in the company, and it just really set

731
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<v Speaker 1>the stage and the landscape for w WE for the

732
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<v Speaker 1>following what is it now six years since this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and lo and behold, these guys have in large part

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<v Speaker 1>been the faces of the company. The one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I am kind of sad about looking back on the

736
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<v Speaker 1>Shield and the dissolution of this shield is that I

737
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<v Speaker 1>really wish they would have had at least one one

738
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<v Speaker 1>on one match between any of the two of the

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<v Speaker 1>three because at a WrestleMania I would have liked to

740
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<v Speaker 1>see two of the three go head to head at

741
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<v Speaker 1>a WrestleMania that we haven't been able to see to

742
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>this point. I really thought at WrestleMania thirty two, when

743
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 1>seth Rawlins was out with injury and John Ceno was

744
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>out with injury and Randy Orton was out with injury

745
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that Roman Reigns versus Dean Ambrose would have been a

746
00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>perfect main event and you know, two Shield members, maybe

747
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>two baby faces going one on one, But they elected

748
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 1>to go with Roman Reigns versus Triple h which was

749
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.559
<v Speaker 1>one of the worst WrestleMania main events of all time

750
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.760
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. But maybe we'll get to see it

751
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 1>with seth Rawlins and Roman Reigns somewhere down the line.

752
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.920
<v Speaker 1>They're both on SmackDown now, so maybe, but they're both

753
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>newly turned heels, so who knows if that is anything

754
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in the cards in the near future. But this feud

755
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 1>between Evolution and the Shield was big in so many

756
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 1>ways by main event by solidifying them as main event

757
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>players and breaking them up to send them on their

758
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>separate ways as single stars. So look, guys, that's about

759
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<v Speaker 1>all I got for this week. In terms of rivalries.

760
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<v Speaker 1>It was more of a recent rivalry that I hope

761
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<v Speaker 1>you guys are good with. I know usually I do

762
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<v Speaker 1>fifteen plus years ago, but This was just something I'd

763
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>been thinking about for a while, and I'm kind of

764
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<v Speaker 1>on this kick of faction versus faction rivalries, so I

765
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 1>hope you guys are good with that too, as opposed

766
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.599
<v Speaker 1>to the traditional one on one rivalries. Just trying to

767
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.280
<v Speaker 1>think about a bit outside the box. So as always,

768
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<v Speaker 1>you can at me on Twitter at A to Marco

769
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. You can email Matt at REALWWE Podcast at

770
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com if you want to leave him questions

771
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:18.800
<v Speaker 1>for me I'd be happy to answer them, or at

772
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 1>me on Twitter or dm me on Twitter.

773
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Some of you have to dm me on Instagram. That's

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00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 2>cool too.

775
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:26.639
<v Speaker 1>My handle is also A to Marco twenty five. Or

776
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you could leave a voicemail for Matt and he would

777
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 1>be and he would be glad to relay that for me. Anyway, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I got for you this week, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will talk to you next time.